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CIA-3wubi: Agostino Russo * r84 trunk/ (4 files in 4 dirs):00:21
CIA-3wubi: Reverted previous changes as suggested by Evan Dandrea and instead00:21
CIA-3wubi: will hide Wubi option in CD menu if the drive is larger than00:21
CIA-3wubi: max_iso_size unless a --force-wubi argument is used (LP: #338015)00:21
CIA-3wubi: Agostino Russo * r85 trunk/ (47 files in 3 dirs):01:24
CIA-3wubi: Modified English strings to make them less technical and added01:24
CIA-3wubi: missing ones01:24
CIA-3wubi: Agostino Russo * r86 trunk/ (47 files in 3 dirs): More text string edits01:39
esp1i have used the alternate installer and installed encrypted root system a few times, and it struck me that the data is written in the same order to the disk every time.....isn't this a weakness in the setup, and give an unnessesary attack vector at the crypto?04:28
CIA-3wubi: Agostino Russo * r87 trunk/ (9 files in 4 dirs):08:18
CIA-3wubi: * Ask for confirmation before quitting08:18
CIA-3wubi: * Some text edits08:18
CIA-3wubi: * No need to set the title of the message boxes08:18
CIA-3wubi: Agostino Russo * r88 trunk/ (45 files in 2 dirs): Updated gettext template and translations08:21
CIA-3ubiquity: evand * r3076 ubiquity/ (d-i/manifest debian/changelog):08:55
CIA-3ubiquity: Automatic update of included source packages: apt-setup08:55
CIA-3ubiquity: 1:0.37ubuntu10, console-setup 1.28ubuntu6, debian-installer-utils08:55
CIA-3ubiquity: 1.66ubuntu1, hw-detect 1.71ubuntu5, kboot-installer 0.0.1ubuntu9,08:55
CIA-3ubiquity: localechooser 2.09ubuntu2, partman-auto-loop 0ubuntu16, partman-base08:55
CIA-3ubiquity: 129ubuntu1, partman-basicfilesystems 62ubuntu2, partman-partitioning08:55
CIA-3ubiquity: 64ubuntu4, user-setup 1.23ubuntu14.08:55
cjwatsonevand: looks like you omitted to push your clock-setup change from a while back, so I got a reject ... could you push it to lp:~evand/clock-setup/adjtime or something and I'll merge it?08:56
evandsure, sorry about that08:57
* evand turns a fake wheel next to bzr08:59
CIA-3ubiquity: evand * r3077 ubiquity/debian/po/ (79 files): debconf-updatepo09:00
evandcjwatson: pushed to the location you specified09:04
cjwatsonta09:06
CIA-3clock-setup: cjwatson * r205 ubuntu/ (debian/changelog finish-install.d/10clock-setup): merge lp:~evand/clock-setup/adjtime09:10
cjwatsonevand: thanks09:23
CIA-3clock-setup: cjwatson * r206 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 0.97ubuntu309:23
davmor2xivulon: long time no see dude :)09:23
evandsure thing09:23
xivulonhi09:25
xivulonit's complicated for me to use irc during the day09:25
davmor2:)09:25
CIA-3ubiquity: evand * r3078 ubiquity/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.11.1509:25
xivulonyou have to show up at night :)09:25
xivulonevand have to go shortly09:26
xivulon bittorrent downloader does not09:26
xivulonwork09:26
xivulonyou can run with --no-bittorrent09:26
xivulonI will have a look in the coming days09:26
evandxivulon: ok, I sent you an email.  A new CD is being built with r88 as we speak.09:26
xivulonSteve enabled the torrent only yesterday09:26
xivuloncool09:27
davmor2evand: If you can give me a ping once it's done I'll have a play :)09:34
evanddavmor2: I have to run over to LHR in a bit, but sure, I'll let you know once I've verified that it's not completely broken :)09:37
CIA-3installation-guide: cjwatson * r449 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 20081208ubuntu112:43
CIA-3choose-mirror: cjwatson * r608 ubuntu/ (4 files in 2 dirs):13:11
CIA-3choose-mirror: Allow preseeding the default CC.archive.ubuntu.com setup by preseeding13:11
CIA-3choose-mirror: mirror/http/mirror to CC.archive.ubuntu.com, and likewise for13:11
CIA-3choose-mirror: mirror/ftp/mirror (LP: #18225).13:11
CIA-3choose-mirror: cjwatson * r609 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 2.27ubuntu414:21
CIA-3installation-guide: cjwatson * r450 ubuntu/ (debian/changelog en/appendix/preseed.xml):14:37
CIA-3installation-guide: Document new scheme for preseeding the use of CC.archive.ubuntu.com14:37
CIA-3installation-guide: mirrors (LP: #18225).14:37
CIA-3installation-guide: cjwatson * r451 ubuntu/ (build/entities/common.ent debian/changelog): Bump kernelversion to 2.6.28.14:38
CIA-3installation-guide: cjwatson * r452 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 20081208ubuntu215:05
davmor2evand: 20090305.1 dl'd no umenu though :(15:29
davmor2Also I stopped wubi from accessing the web to ensure that it was the version on the cd being used :)15:36
cjwatsonI've tagged all the old ubiquity releases in bzr, at least those I could identify automatically; the only tags in place were 1.8.0 and everything since 1.9.1915:46
cjwatsonhelps a bit when looking at old bug reports15:46
cjwatson"bzr log --line | grep 'releasing version' | sed 's/:.* / /' | tac | while read rev ver; do bzr tag -r$rev $ver; done" is the rune I use for this kind of thing15:47
evanddavmor2: how did you test for umenu?16:13
davmor2evand: Yes sorry wrote that because it didn't auto start like it used to.  It's actually part of wubi now correct?16:15
evandyes16:17
evandit should autostart though16:17
evandI'll look into it16:17
evandpulling down a CD now16:17
davmor2evand: permission denied removing C:\ubuntu\uninstall-wubi.exe  I'm guessing because it is being used at the time16:21
evanddavmor2: I think the uninstall is broken.  I remember a note from xivulon, but I'm about to go on a call so I can't look it up16:22
evandmight want to use an old wubi executable to remove it16:23
davmor2no probs16:23
davmor2evand: It deletes it if you use the uninstall option from a new instance of wubi16:27
evanddavmor2: from an email from Ago:16:29
evand4) Other outstanding bugs I am aware of:16:29
evand* Uninstaller does not work when the uninstaller itself is in the16:29
evanddirectory to be deleted (which is currently the case)16:29
davmor2evand: definitely no autostart though16:32
evandnoted16:32
davmor2other than that seems okay :)16:33
davmor2doesn't spit the cd out either16:35
evanddavmor2: does a wubi install work?16:40
davmor2Yes :)16:40
evandFANTASTIC16:41
davmor2evand: the install is fine removal autorun and cd eject are the only issues.  I've installed it twice now :)16:41
evandgreat16:43
davmor2evand: Wasn't there a bug about using grey to represent the new full drive in ubiquity?19:15
davmor2the bar in kubuntu is now grey again so it looks like it is empty19:27
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evandhttps://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/336755 - can you just add a note in there to remember to address it in the kde frontend as well?  Thanks!20:46
ubottuLaunchpad bug 336755 in ubiquity ""Specify partitions manually (advanced)" is displayed as if it's a partition type" [Low,Confirmed]20:46
Wellarkbtw, does ubiquity support setting up full encryption (root + swap) by now?21:57
cjwatsonno, unfortunately not22:01
cjwatsonit's becoming an increasing priority though ...22:01
Wellarktrue.. laptop users would love that...22:04
Wellarkmaybe I get interested hacking on d-i and ubiquity ^^22:06
Wellarkubiquity encryption support would be nice and shouldn't be that hard either22:07
cjwatsonwould involve figuring out how to integrate partman-crypto22:16
Wellarkpartman has crypto already, no?22:19
cjwatsonin the partman-crypto component, yes :-)22:19
Wellarkah, OK :)22:19
cjwatsonbut there's no UI frontend code for it in ubiquity yet22:19
Wellarkwell, if I have some spare time in the near future I might look into this first: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debian-installer/+bug/33795722:22
ubottuLaunchpad bug 337957 in debian-installer "[Jaunty] installer doesn't ask where to install GRUB and overwrites MBR which contains TrueCrypt Bootloader" [Undecided,New]22:22
Wellarkbtw, could someone set priority for this bug.. I'm thinking like "High" or something..22:23
cjwatsonwhich installer - alternate or desktop?22:29
cjwatsonfor 33795722:29
cjwatsonBTW, people should relax about the priority field. Mostly I don't care about it for bugs I'm actually working on.22:30
cjwatsonok, alternate22:30
Wellarkbut someone else might care ;)22:31
cjwatsonwho else?22:31
Wellarkdon't tell me you are the only one working on d-i? O.o22:33
cjwatsonI'm not, but the priority field just isn't actually that important to developers except in a few cases :)22:34
cjwatsonanyway, the problem is that os-prober doesn't do anything with the encrypted filesystem, not even "I have no idea what to do with this"22:34
WellarkOK. I kinda guessed something like that22:35
cjwatsonany idea how it could go about recognising an encrypted Windows XP partition?22:36
Wellarkwell, it wouldn't have to recognise the partition, but at least double check where to install grub22:38
cjwatsonhttp://www.truecrypt.org/ says "No TrueCrypt volume can be identified (volumes cannot be distinguished from random data)"22:38
cjwatsonum, yeah, the problem is that conflicts with a general objective I have to ask as few questions as possible22:38
cjwatsonon systems where we believe we're the only installed operating system, therefore, we just go ahead and install grub22:38
cjwatson(0,1,0) (12748,254,62)  1       32256-104864094719      104864062464    primary22:39
cjwatsonunknown /dev/sda122:39
cjwatsonparted doesn't recognise it, of course22:39
cjwatsonWellark: what does 'fdisk -l' say for that partition?22:39
cjwatsonspecifically I'm interested in the partition type code22:39
Wellarkcjwatson: I attached the output to the bugreport22:45
Wellark/dev/sda1   *           1       12749   102406311    7  HPFS/NTFS22:45
cjwatsonok, at least it's 0x722:45
Wellarkyes, but it might be anything22:45
cjwatsonsure, but a 0x7 partition is some indication that we aren't alone on the disk22:46
WellarkI could argue that if user decides to install /boot on anything else than the first partition then it would be nice to ask where to install grub22:47
btmit appears that passwd/root-password-crypted may not be working with jaunty. with the SHA512 switch in LP:51551, is there a different debconf variable to be used now or maybe it's broken?22:49
cjwatsonWellark: I think a better test would be "are there any partitions on this drive that weren't created by Ubuntu" or similar22:49
cjwatsonbtm: you'll need to use SHA512-crypted passwords, of course ...22:50
Wellarkcjwatson: yes, and the point is that it's doable :)22:50
cjwatsonWellark: never said it wasn't, just said it wasn't trivial22:50
Wellarkneither did I :D22:50
cjwatsonbtm: (hmm, maybe we should check the crypt format in use and supply appropriate parameters to chpasswd)22:51
cjwatsonbtm: anyway, please file a bug on https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/user-setup/+filebug if it isn't working22:51
btmcjwatson: I'll try with a SHA512 password. It's currently an MD5 password (auto install from intrepid)22:52
cjwatsonbtm: right, at present it needs to be SHA51222:53
cjwatsonbtm: I'd appreciate a bug on that, actually - we could be a little better about backward-compat22:53
btmcjwatson: np, will test to make sure sha512 works and file.22:55
Wellarkok. g2g. cu!23:00
btmcjwatson: openssl and friends appear to not support sha512 password generation, is there an included tool?23:04
cjwatsonerr, I'd have to dig, I didn't make this change myself23:10
cjwatsonchpasswd -S maybe?23:11
cjwatson$ echo cjwatson:foo | chpasswd -S23:11
cjwatsoncjwatson:$6$K./rc/OhIRi$ylKWgewTkGP3TyXfwj8nnKyIhph66WucLseLjGKKzRM0oRcuRzng2szcC/JZpY13dLxmlILx7eSfdfMHTruH4023:11
cjwatsonmaybe chpasswd -S -c SHA512 actually23:12
cjwatsonthat salt seems too short for SHA51223:12
btmit should respect ENCRYPT_METHOD in /etc/login.defs23:13
cjwatsonwell, it does seem to be respecting it, except that it's using an MD5-length salt23:14
cjwatsonso I think there's a bug lurking23:14
cjwatsonin the meantime, 'chpasswd -S -c SHA512' seems to work23:14
* cjwatson debugs a bit23:20
cjwatsonactually, I think I'm just on crack. Of course SHA512 has a variable salt length. 'chpasswd -S' alone should work23:23
btmi take it 'd-i passwd/root-password-crypted' wouldn't be stored such that I could verify it with 'debconf-get-selections --installer' for security reasons? I see the other settings (like passwd/root-login boolean true) but password still isn't working.23:36
CIA-3pkgsel: cjwatson * r132 ubuntu/debian/ (changelog pkgsel.templates postinst):23:53
CIA-3pkgsel: Run updatedb at the end of pkgsel, unless pkgsel/updatedb is preseeded23:53
CIA-3pkgsel: to false (LP: #8195).23:53
cjwatsonbtm: indeed, it's cleared out of the debconf database towards the end of installation23:53
CIA-3pkgsel: cjwatson * r133 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 0.20ubuntu1323:55
CIA-3installation-guide: cjwatson * r453 ubuntu/ (debian/changelog en/appendix/preseed.xml): Document pkgsel/updatedb (LP: #8195).23:57

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