[00:35] <theteju> I am newbiee.. looking to install mythbuntu on a dell poweredge sc420 server
[00:35] <theteju> my problem is.. the computer has PCI ex8 slot where my PCI e 16 Graphic card does not fit
[00:36] <theteju> my Question is.. if I intend it to use as backend.. Do I have to have decent graphic and sound card on backend?
[00:42] <theteju> hopefully someone answer soon
[00:58] <nemiroal> theteju: you dont need anything for a backend except HDD, a good CPU and an Ethernet card.
[00:58] <rhpot1991> he is gone I think
[00:59] <nemiroal> yep.. just figured that out.. guess I was too late
[00:59] <rhpot1991> thats normal, people don't hang around for answers normally :(
[01:26] <Batshua> Hi.  Is there anyone alive to give me some channel lock help?  I seem to be having a strange problem.
[01:27] <Batshua> I have 100% signal but only a partial lock.
[03:10] <tmetro1> > tmetro1: ... Is this error a red herring and it just needs sufficient access to create a temporary table for a lock semaphore and then it'll be happy?
[03:10] <tmetro1> Apparently that's all it was. A poorly worded error message. Granting LOCK TABLES privilege fix it.
[03:10] <tmetro1> Turns out I probably didn't need to bother upgrading both machines to run the weekly builds, seeing as the schema version mismatch was a false indicator.
[03:20] <foxbuntu> tmetro1, schema mismatch is a big deal
[03:21] <tmetro1> ok...but there was none. It was just spitting out the wrong error message because it couldn't lock some table necessary to check the schema version.
[03:21] <tmetro1> Some coder obviously wrote some logic that says, if you fail here, it's likely because the schema version is wrong, so say that. Forgetting that there are a dozen other failure cases.
[03:22] <foxbuntu> tmetro1, how did your mythtv sql user not have locking permissions
[03:22] <foxbuntu> tmetro1, did you modify the sql user account?
[03:23] <tmetro1> I had created the user. I don't like using the default user on all clients. For example, I have mvpmc clients that also connect to the DB, but only need "read-only" access to the db, so that's all they are granted.
[03:24] <tmetro1> I'm not sure where it got it from, but the fresh install of the front-end actually picked up one of the mvpmc database user names/passwords. My other front-end (on the back-end) doesn't use that account, so I'm not sure where it got that from.
[03:26] <foxbuntu> tmetro1, ok, not a bug then, just configuration
[03:26]  * foxbuntu is bug watching since it is very close to release
[03:27] <tmetro1> Though maybe I filled that in several weeks ago when I first tried setting up mythfrontend on this machine. It was probably the first user/pass I could get my hands on. And even though I had uninstalled the package, config files persist.
[03:27] <tmetro1> No, it is definitely a bug. The error message is incorrect for the circumstances.
[03:28] <tmetro1> It just may not be a common bug. However a google of the error message turned up a few other cases of people seeing the same problem.
[03:29] <tmetro1> I'd file a ticket, but bug reports never seem to be all that well received by the MythTV devs.
[03:34] <foxbuntu> tmetro1, why do you say that?
[03:35] <foxbuntu> tmetro1, you cant file a bug with this: "This error is wrong, the dev should have done this"
[03:35] <foxbuntu> then they will likely ignore it
[03:36] <foxbuntu> there is also the option to write and submit a patch yourself
[05:34] <tmetro1> yeah, I'm aware of that. I'm well versed on how to write a good bug report. The level of detail hasn't been the issue.
[05:34] <tmetro1> "write a patch" is also not a good way to run an open source project. Encourage a patch? Sure. But bugs without patches need to be handled as well.
[05:38] <hads> Oh yay
[05:52] <foxbuntu> tmetro1, how is encouraging involvement in the community a bad idea? My suggestions are still the same, if you think its a bug, file it, someone will pick it up and look at it. Does not mean it will take priority however. Option two is to write a patch if you feel you can and/or it needs higher priority than the current devs might give it.
[05:53] <foxbuntu> hads, evening :)
[05:56] <ZykoticK9-eee> 2 computers: different locations, one running 8.04 the other 8.10 both with the same problem.  MythStream / wwITV list / choose country (Canada) / choose any station / there is a flash of "no stream" and you get two choices "tvbar.htm" or "+bron+.  Previously several channels functioned properly.  Both systems using the most recent versions of MythTV and MythStream in their respective repositories
[05:58] <foxbuntu> !paid% | tmetro1
[05:58] <Zinn> tmetro1: Mythbuntu does not provide a Paid Support feature, the developers are writing code and offering support on a volunteer basis, if you want to complain or be just plain unpleasant, please remember that they are not required to help you and do have the propagative to remove you from the channel or close your forum threads if you continue to do so.
[05:59] <hads> Evening foxbuntu
[06:00] <foxbuntu> hads, tonight is a good night, my new home office is finally nearly done
[06:00] <foxbuntu> got my new 40" LCD up on the wall
[06:00] <foxbuntu> :)
[06:00] <hads> Cool. What do you need a 40" on the wall for?
[06:01] <foxbuntu> testing HDMI at 1080p
[06:01] <hads> Fair enough
[06:01] <foxbuntu> didnt think it was a legit reason did ya ?
[06:01] <foxbuntu> lol
[06:02] <hads> hehe
[06:02] <hads> There's legit and there's legit ;)
[06:02] <foxbuntu> well...yea
[06:03] <foxbuntu> if there is Legit and Legit this is me Legit -- ME ---------- Legit
[06:03] <foxbuntu> ;)
[06:05] <foxbuntu> hads, are you an Ubuntu Member yet?
[06:20] <hads> foxbuntu: Na
[06:20] <foxbuntu> oh
[06:20]  * foxbuntu is angling to get as many members into his application meeting as possible
[06:25] <hads> I haven't contributed enough to be a member
[06:26] <tmetro1> > Zinn: tmetro1: Mythbuntu does not provide a Paid Support feature...
[06:26] <tmetro1> Sorry for the misunderstanding. I was griping about the poor response I've gotten to tickets I've filed with the core project, not Mythbuntu. And by poor response, I don't mean that my issues weren't given priority. I mean they were dismissed as invalid, with poor reasoning. foxbuntu's response to my comments reminded me of this, but my comments weren't directed at him or Mythbuntu.
[06:27] <foxbuntu> hads, ah, I really didnt think so either until I sat down to do my wiki write up
[11:53] <gumpert345> hi I try this howto: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV/Install/Hardy/Diskless but I cannot download wget http://laga.ath.cx/030-mythbuntu what can I do now?
[12:16] <gumpert456> hi I try this howto: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV/Install/Hardy/Diskless but I cannot download wget http://laga.ath.cx/030-mythbuntu what can I do now?
[12:35] <gumpert567> I have some connection problems over here, did someone answer?
[13:12] <gumpert345> got disconnected again, any ideas?
[13:58] <gumpert345> does someone know a howto for a diskless server on hardy?
[14:10] <gumpert456> I read the diskless thread, where someone had the same problem I have, and someone answered it is all in the repos now, so I did sudo apt-get install mythbuntu-diskless-client  but this is what happened: http://pastebin.com/d4e5693f7 what can I do now?
[14:39] <gumpert345> sry internet broke down again, did anyone have a look at the pastebin?
[19:36] <tmetro1> Is there any trick to getting mythfrontend to run in a window on 8.10 w/GNOME and Compiz? I checked the "run in a window" box, and reduced the window size in the settings, just as I did on an 8.04 installation, but o 8.10 I get no "window decorations" - thus no title bar that can be used to easily move the window.
[20:02] <hads> tmetro1: I've noticed that too. I just use ALT+drag to move it around.
[20:05] <threnobulax_iom> Anyone know where to find good mythtv themes/skins?
[20:20] <oobe> aptitude search mythtv-theme
[20:51] <^Alita> hi to all
[20:51] <tmetro1> hads: that works. Thanks!
[20:52] <^Alita> i'mtrying to use myth-tv on my ubuntu. i can see the tv video but i can't ear anything. the videos on my pc works fine with totem
[20:54] <nemiroal> alita: go into the settings and mess around with your audio device.
[20:54] <threnobulax_iom> aptitude search mythtv-theme just gives me standard themes, which are, not that great. Anywhere else?
[20:56] <^Alita> nemiroal, in the audio settings i've set ALSA:default as audio output, idem for the mixer, and the mixer control is PCM
[20:56] <^Alita> on the ubuntu audio controls i've set all active
[20:57] <^Alita> expecially PCM :)
[21:12] <perlmonkey> greetings
[21:12] <nemiroal> Alita.. start up alsamixer from the command line
[21:12] <nemiroal> see if anything is muted or off
[21:13] <nemiroal> sorry.. never mind
[21:13] <nemiroal> seems like you did that already
[21:13] <perlmonkey> im getting very messed up graphix on mythtbuntu 8.10 install on my werkstation PC, Matrox  MGA G200 AGP graphics card. any ideas?
[21:13] <^Alita> yes, i've already done
[21:14] <perlmonkey> no sound?
[21:15] <^Alita> yes, no sound
[21:15] <perlmonkey> i had the same problem, the obvious thing to check is to make sure you have sound coming in... if you're using svideo or composite etc
[21:15] <^Alita> a question: every time i change this setting, i've to restart the frontend?
[21:15] <perlmonkey> if you sure sound is coming in, try changing the frontend settings for audio under General, that fixed it for me
[21:16] <perlmonkey> yes I think so
[21:16] <^Alita> i'm using the pal signal. i can watch the video, but i don't ear anything. but the sound works, i'm earing a video on my pc with totem
[21:16] <perlmonkey> thats good you have verified the sound is coming in, its likely to be the settings are wrong then in frontend
[21:17] <perlmonkey> its a common problem, doesnt seem to detect the system setup
[21:17] <^Alita> you know how i can convince it?
[21:17] <nemiroal> Alita: which ubuntu distro and version?
[21:18] <perlmonkey> well the main one is to check if you're using alsa or dsp, i changed from alsa to dsp in General settings and that fixed it for me
[21:18] <^Alita> ubuntu 8.10
[21:18] <perlmonkey> Iam using 8.10 also
[21:18] <nemiroal> I am running that
[21:18] <nemiroal> let me tell you mine
[21:19] <perlmonkey> I've got my frontend working over wifi (11g)
[21:19] <nemiroal> Audio output device: ALSA:default
[21:19] <nemiroal> Passthrough: Default
[21:19] <nemiroal> Max Audio Channel: stereo
[21:19] <nemiroal> Upmix: passive
[21:20] <nemiroal> use internal volume controls is checked.. nothing elsed
[21:20] <nemiroal> mixer /dev/mixer
[21:20] <perlmonkey> seems pretty stable, the laptop is only P3-600
[21:20] <nemiroal> mixer control: pcm
[21:20] <nemiroal> then I have master and pcm mixer volume set to 70%
[21:20] <nemiroal> that is it
[21:20] <nemiroal> running stock ubuntu 8.10.. same as you.
[21:21] <perlmonkey> I dont think stock ubuntu likes Matrox graphics cards
[21:21] <perlmonkey> i cant get it to work properly on my workstation
[21:21] <^Alita> exactly like mine, and was the default setting
[21:21] <nemiroal> I assume you are up to date on 8.10 and not just running the fresh install.
[21:22] <nemiroal> early 8.10 had lots of pulse audio issues.
[21:22] <^Alita> yes, is up-to-date
[21:22] <nemiroal> dont know then
[21:22] <nemiroal> try alsamixer on the command line just for kicks
[21:22] <^Alita> me too :(
[21:22] <nemiroal> sometimes it has more controls then the GTK+ gui
[21:22] <nemiroal> config
[21:24] <perlmonkey> stupid thing, can't connect to database error again on frontend, i fixed this and it worked last night, now its not working
[21:24] <perlmonkey> grrr
[21:25] <^Alita> nemiroal, i have to restart thefontend everytime i make changes, or they areapplied imediatly?
[21:31] <nemiroal> perlmonkey.. check my mysql config file
[21:31] <^Alita> i've noticed a thing: in the audio setting tab, when i change the master volume, this imemdiatly affects the master in alsamixer, but when i change the PCM volume it doesn't
[21:32] <nemiroal> ^Alita: sorry.. not sure.
[21:33] <perlmonkey> nemiroal: looks fine
[21:33] <perlmonkey> Database error was:
[21:33] <perlmonkey> Access denied for user 'mythtv'@'laptop.local' (using password: YES)
[21:33] <perlmonkey> thats the prob
[21:35] <perlmonkey> ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[21:35] <perlmonkey> hmm
[21:36] <^Alita> nemiroal, thanks anyway
[21:37] <perlmonkey> it's not necessary to run mythtv-setup for a frontend installation is it?  that's for backup config eh
[21:46] <nemiroal> perlmonkey: mysql config file
[21:46] <perlmonkey> ya
[21:46] <nemiroal> ~/.myth
[21:46] <nemiroal> in there
[21:46] <perlmonkey> looks fine
[21:46] <nemiroal> Back and front end are the same host?
[21:47] <perlmonkey> different
[21:47] <nemiroal> then its wrong
[21:47] <perlmonkey> how so?
[21:47] <nemiroal> DBHostName=yourbackend_ip_addr
[21:47] <nemiroal> first line
[21:47] <perlmonkey> ya thats correct
[21:49] <perlmonkey> if i run mythfrontend from shell it goes to a menu to select "default backend" then pops up "no security PIN assigned. run mythtv-setup to set one" this is a new one on me!
[21:49] <perlmonkey> what the heck is a security pin
[21:49] <nemiroal> ahh
[21:49] <nemiroal> been here before.
[21:49] <nemiroal> let me think
[21:49] <perlmonkey> :-/
[21:50] <nemiroal> backend has PIN set to nothing .. right?
[21:50] <perlmonkey> let me check
[21:51] <nemiroal> did you look in config.xml?
[21:51] <nemiroal> in ~/.mythtv
[21:51] <perlmonkey> oh i deleted that file, thats maybe why im getting this error?
[21:56] <perlmonkey> phew my backend lost the security pin somehow
[21:56] <perlmonkey> i did change the IP of backend tho y'day
[21:56] <perlmonkey> all working now, thanks nemiroal
[21:57]  * perlmonkey makes notes in his diary to help others troubleshoot
[21:57] <nemiroal> perlmonkey: got lucky again.
[21:57] <nemiroal> laster
[21:57] <nemiroal> later
[21:57] <perlmonkey> :D
[22:06] <tifereth> hi, anyone knows how to shutdown xfce with lirc?
[22:06] <tifereth> through their menu
[22:12] <^Alita> nemiroal, now i find how to start the sound: i changed the input sound signal in the backend
[22:12] <nemiroal> lol
[22:12] <^Alita> but now there's another problem:
[22:12] <nemiroal> good find
[22:13] <^Alita> it plays tv at double speed
[22:13] <^Alita> everyone speacks like donald duck
[22:13] <nemiroal> really
[22:13] <nemiroal> what is your sample rate of the audio?
[22:13] <nemiroal> what are you using to record ?
[22:13] <^Alita> is in auto
[22:14] <nemiroal> what device is recording?
[22:14] <^Alita> but the video looks fast
[22:14] <^Alita> television
[22:14] <nemiroal> no.. I mean what is your recording device?
[22:15] <nemiroal> PVR-150?
[22:15] <nemiroal> etc
[22:15] <nemiroal> capture device
[22:15] <^Alita> in the alsa mixer or where?
[22:15] <nemiroal> your backend.
[22:16]  * agamotto bows
[22:16] <^Alita> just a moment, i've to restart the setup
[22:17] <^Alita> where i've to look? in the acquisition card?
[22:18] <^Alita> audio device: /dev/dsp1
[22:19] <nemiroal> how are you computing your video?
[22:19] <nemiroal> I mean
[22:19] <nemiroal> how are you capture your video?
[22:19] <nemiroal> what devices are you using for capture?
[22:19] <^Alita> uhm
[22:19] <^Alita> i got television connected to "TV"
[22:20] <nemiroal> TV on where?
[22:20] <nemiroal> what are you using for a backend?
[22:20] <nemiroal> some prebuild media PC?
[22:20] <^Alita> no
[22:20] <^Alita> the mythtv backend
[22:21] <^Alita> ah, ok
[22:21] <agamotto> Alita:  Do you have separate boxes for the front and back ends?
[22:21] <^Alita> the backend is the same pc of the frontend
[22:21] <^Alita> the capture card is a pinnacle
[22:21] <nemiroal> there you go
[22:21] <agamotto> Good, that makes things much easier
[22:22] <agamotto> Pinnacle what, please?
[22:22] <nemiroal> agamotto: thank you!
[22:22] <^Alita> pctv 40i/50i/110i
[22:22] <agamotto> Hold a sec while we search
[22:26] <agamotto> Interesting - Pinnacle sold all their stuff to Hauppauge... still searching
[22:27] <agamotto> Alita:  Is this Pinnacle an DTV card?
[22:28] <nemiroal> I dont even see it as a supported card.
[22:28] <nemiroal> http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Category:Video_capture_cards
[22:28] <agamotto> I am not finding it either
[22:28] <agamotto> Alita:  I don't think you have a tuner card that is supported by any Linux project currently
[22:29] <agamotto> Go to the above posted website, and you will see a list of cards that are/not supported.  My sole advice would be to avoid the Hauppauge HVR-1800 if you are needing analog currently
[22:29] <nemiroal> try forcing the audio sample rate
[22:30] <nemiroal> 44Khz
[22:30] <nemiroal> or 48Khz
[22:30] <agamotto> What is the general problem that Alita is having?
[22:30] <nemiroal> first audio was not working
[22:30] <^Alita> i'm watching tv like at double speed
[22:30] <agamotto> Hmm, ok.  That could just be a scan rate issue
[22:31] <^Alita> so for half a secon i see (and ear) at double speed
[22:31] <agamotto> Does the screen jump, or does it seem to be playing in FF?
[22:31] <^Alita> the remaining is used to fill the buffer
[22:31] <^Alita> jumps
[22:31] <agamotto> PAL or NTSC?
[22:32] <^Alita> pal
[22:32] <agamotto> Hmmm, just as a joke, make sure that the general setup doesn't have you at NTSC
[22:32] <^Alita> i'm in italy, i've just pal :)
[22:33] <agamotto> That is good.  I just wanted to make sure that NTSC wasn't chosen in the general setup
[22:34] <agamotto> So, with Pal the screen jumps, then becomes normal as far as video playback?
[22:34] <^Alita> no
[22:35] <agamotto> It seems to play at double speed the whole time?
[22:35] <^Alita> i tried to rewind a minute of live record, and now it don't jump, but is still fast
[22:35] <^Alita> i think is playing faster then normal
[22:35] <agamotto> Sounds like it
[22:36] <agamotto> Hmmm, yet you are able to see something with this tuner... ok.... must be supported under the BTTV drivers at least
[22:36] <^Alita> and when it come to the direct signal, it starts to jump because the buffer is not full enough
[22:37] <^Alita> yes, i see the tv normally. ony fast :)
[22:37] <agamotto> I am not sure how to better help you as this is a bit out of my experience.  My guess is that the driver is trying to 'oversample' your card's input, but I am not sure how to 'tune' it
[22:38] <agamotto> The best I can offer is to submit your problem on Ubuntu Forums, in the Mythbuntu section, and see if anyone there can assist
[22:38] <^Alita> :)
[22:39] <^Alita> ok, may i send to you some infos?
[22:39] <agamotto> Sure:  agamotto@sbcglobal.net
[22:39] <^Alita> what info do you need?
[22:40] <agamotto> Describe things as best you can, with details about your video drivers, other cards in the computer.  Rather too much than not enough
[22:42] <^Alita> ok, on tomorrow i try to send you all info i can
[22:42] <^Alita> thanks for now
[22:42] <agamotto> I will read up and see what I can figure out for you
[22:42] <agamotto> You are welcome
[22:43] <^Alita> ok
[22:43] <^Alita> bye to all
[22:43] <agamotto> Ciao
[22:43] <^Alita> :)
[22:46] <agamotto> Ahh, so nice to be able to do this outside
[22:46] <agamotto> Anyone here having fun with their pvr-150 losing/lost sound?
[22:53] <agamotto> Well, I think I will go take another walk.
[22:53]  * agamotto waves