[00:07] <elky> LjL, i rang the hospital, and they said that i should just drink clear fluids and call back if things get worse
[00:08] <Myrtti> osmosal
[00:09] <LjL> elky: did you also hear someone in the background crying "no, we're full"? :)
[00:48] <elky> nope
[00:49] <LjL> good
[00:53] <elky> LjL, are you watcing -ot?
[00:54] <LjL> elky: was mostly just ranting about microsoft without looking at what other said
[00:56] <LjL> elky: if they're saying something particularly bad, i'm afraid i don't get it
[00:56] <elky> and suicide
[00:59] <LjL> elky: anyway you must be feeling better if you can actually read -ot without having the cramps?
[01:00] <elky> the cramps are still happening, but not as often as they were
[01:00] <elky> i guess some of the water is getting through
[01:01] <elky> the throwing up was most likely directly caused by the cramping
[03:41] <Flannel> Looks like there's a troll in texas tonight.
[03:43] <Flannel> Mmm, or maybe not.
[03:44] <Flannel> What do you think, ban on the ident?
[04:00] <nickrud> nalioth's on the warpath?
[04:01] <nalioth> nickrud: which one would that be?
[04:01] <nickrud> the troll in texas
[04:02] <nalioth> tampa bay isn't in Texas
[04:02] <nickrud> and now, the warpath leading to my door ;)
[06:22] <Myrtti> I wonder who Zarlan1984 was
[06:26] <bazhang> * [Zarlan1984] (n=Zarlan@24.227.218.128): Christopher Zehner
[06:27] <Myrtti> he reminds me of someone
[06:27] <Myrtti> probably dash84 or someone like
[06:27] <Tm_T> and I typoed, bazhang 
[06:28] <bazhang> Tm_T, sorry to be late on that !attitude :)
[06:28] <Tm_T> np
[06:44] <Myrtti> uhm...
[06:44] <Myrtti> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debian-installer/+bug/337957
[06:44] <Myrtti> :-|
[06:47] <Tm_T> bazhang: he is back, mind to look over it?
[06:48] <bazhang> Tm_T, have been :)
[06:48] <Myrtti> who, what, where?
[06:48] <Tm_T> in #kubuntu
[06:48] <Myrtti> ok.
[06:48] <bazhang> chronic in kubuntu channel
[06:48] <Tm_T> nick chronic
[06:48]  * Myrtti relaxes her attention and returns to work
[06:48] <Myrtti> I just love these moments when my work is about MediaWiki
[06:49] <Tm_T> bazhang: I'm away now, have fun
[06:50] <bazhang> hehe will do
[07:03]  * elky is much better now. just need to find something bland and fibery to eat now
[07:03] <bazhang> yay!
[07:03] <bazhang> good to hear elky 
[07:05] <Myrtti> !activedirectory
[07:05] <Myrtti> !ad is <alias> activedirectory
[08:25] <Myrtti> !kr
[08:26] <Myrtti> is there a korean channel?
[08:26] <Myrtti> !loco
[08:26] <Myrtti> !ko
[08:27] <Myrtti> ohmygawd the access list for that channel is SAD
[08:27] <Myrtti> [10:27] [freenode] -NickServ(NickServ@services.)- User seen  : May 15  12:41:33 2007 (1 year, 42 weeks, 0 days, 19:45:43 ago)
[08:29] <Myrtti> and the population of the channel is whopping...
[08:29] <Myrtti> 10
[08:30] <topyli> Myrtti: so your task for to day is: learn korean, join the channel, and yell WORK HARDER!
[08:31] <Myrtti> the population of South Korea alone is 49 million
[08:32] <Myrtti> I don't get it
[08:33] <topyli> afaik it's also one of the most wired nations in the world
[08:33] <Myrtti> I guess they could be using some arbitrary irc network instead of Freenode
[08:33] <Myrtti> kinda like Finns tend to use IRCnet more than freenode
[08:33] <Myrtti> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JiHui%20Choi
[08:34] <Myrtti> like irc.hanirc.org
[08:34] <Myrtti> *shrug*
[08:34] <topyli> the finnish ircnet use is historical baggage, can't really attribute it to the technical excellence of the network :(
[08:34] <Myrtti> I'm almost tempted to poke my nose into business that isn't mine
[08:35] <Myrtti> ie. suggest that the -ko ownership would be transferred to that jihui choi feller
[08:35] <Myrtti> who atleast seems to be on irc
[08:35] <Myrtti> though I have no idea how that could be done with the current access list being what it is
[08:35] <topyli> great launchpad avatar :)
[08:36] <Myrtti> I guess learning korean could be fun
[08:37] <elky> Myrtti, so there's nobody in the access list?
[08:37] <Myrtti> elky: there's one person in the access list, who has been seen by chanserv 1 year, 42 weeks ago
[08:38] <elky> Gary, around hon?
[08:39] <Myrtti> though
[08:39] <Myrtti> https://edge.launchpad.net/~atie-at-matrix/+karma
[08:39] <Myrtti> so he is active in somewhere else
[08:39]  * Myrtti steps away, not to stir the waters more
[08:41] <topyli> this atie person lives on some hanirc network. i wonder if that's the korean default destination
[08:42]  * Myrtti considers sending an email
[08:42] <elky> probably
[08:42] <Myrtti> I really should be working and not poking my nose into this
[08:42]  * Myrtti slaps herself
[08:43] <Gary> elky: yes
[08:43] <elky> Gary, could the UbuntuIrcCouncil account at least get added to the #ubuntu-ko access list please
[08:43] <Gary> one mo, I cannot do that but I can pester someone who can
[08:44] <elky> thanks
[08:47] <ikonia> elky: I'm going to speak to Christal when she's back on line about panarchy - he's now advertising his distro and requesting people join his channel in other channels
[08:47] <ikonia> he's really starting to get on my nerves, everychannel I'm in is spammed every night
[08:50] <elky> ikonia, make sure you complain to the ops of those channels, and have them join the call
[08:51] <elky> is he in ubuntu channels doing it still? if so, which?
[08:51] <ikonia> elky: I've complained in channel a few times, sad thing is AUS very few ops around, mostly guys just saying "kick him"
[08:51] <ikonia> elky: nah, he's out of all ubuntu channels now, I think he's realised that's a dead end
[08:59] <Myrtti> hm
[08:59] <Myrtti> !ohmy
[08:59] <Myrtti> I don't like that
[08:59] <ikonia> change it
[09:00] <elky> Myrtti, what do you not like about it?
[09:00] <Myrtti> I don't know what I'd change it to
[09:00] <Myrtti> but I don't like the implication that kids are the only reason for being polite and minding your manners
[09:00] <elky> s/kids/many cultures and ages/
[09:00] <Myrtti> PLEASE, THINK OF THE CHILDREN makes me want to puke
[09:01] <Myrtti> elky: mmm
[09:01] <topyli> as it happens, it causes nausea in most finns lately :)
[09:01] <ikonia> Please be caeful of your language and attitude towards people. This channel is aims to provider friendly and helpful support, this means not swearing or abuse in anyway
[09:02] <elky> ikonia, it's not just for #ubuntu though, so the support aspect is negated.
[09:02] <Seeker`> why not just get rid of the "Remember, there are kids here!" 
[09:02] <Myrtti> Seeker`: because the most common ...
[09:02] <elky> Seeker`, because they then argue that there's no qualifier
[09:02] <Myrtti> oh gawd, I'm loosing words again
[09:03] <Myrtti> it's the most common false excuse to brush off the !language
[09:03] <Myrtti> "we're all adults here, you're such pansies, get a grip and gtfo from complaining about my f-ing language"
[09:03] <elky> yeah
[09:04] <ikonia> Please remember that all ubuntu channels share the same attiude of providing friendly and polite interaction with all users, this means no swearing and no abuse towards people
[09:05] <Myrtti> and btw. I thought ohmy was an alias to language...
[09:06] <topyli> ikonia: that would work for -ot channels. people forget that they're still ubuntu land
[09:06] <elky> Please remember that all ubuntu channels share the same attitude of providing friendly and polite interaction with all users, this means no foul language and no abuse towards others.
[09:07] <ikonia> elky: better
[09:07] <elky> !-ohmy
[09:07] <Myrtti> s/all users/all users of different ages and cultures/
[09:08] <elky> !Please remember that all ubuntu channels share the same attitude of providing friendly and polite interaction with all users of different ages and cultures. Basically, this means no foul language and no abuse towards others.
[09:08] <elky> gah
[09:08] <elky> !ohmy is <reply>Please remember that all ubuntu channels share the same attitude of providing friendly and polite interaction with all users of different ages and cultures. Basically, this means no foul language and no abuse towards others.
[09:08] <elky> did i broked the bot?
[09:09] <Myrtti> !no ohmy is <reply>
[09:09] <Myrtti> oh dear god, no
[09:09] <elky> oh, i'm lagging. yum
[09:09] <Myrtti> !ohmy
[09:09] <Myrtti> phew
[09:09] <ikonia> maybe nice to document ubottu's functions a bit more, I often forget the synatax
[09:10] <Myrtti> !no ohmy is <reply>Please remember that all ubuntu channels share the same attitude of providing friendly and polite interaction with all users of different ages and cultures. Basically, this means no foul language and no abuse towards others.
[09:10] <Myrtti> !ohmy
[09:10] <stdin> ikonia: it's on the wiki, see !bot
[09:10] <Myrtti> !ohmy ~= /ubuntu/Ubuntu/
[09:10] <ikonia> stdin: has it always been there, and I've just being missing it ?
[09:11] <Myrtti> c'mon
[09:11]  * Myrtti massages ubottu
[09:11] <stdin> there has been usage instructions since it was ubotu
[09:11] <Myrtti> you can do it
[09:11] <Myrtti> !ohmy
[09:11] <Myrtti> !ohmy ~= /Ubuntu/Ubuntu IRC/
[09:11] <Myrtti> !language
[09:12] <Myrtti> !-language
[09:12] <Myrtti> nggghhh
[09:13] <ikonia> stdin: clearly I'm blind/moron
[09:13] <ikonia> stdin: I see it now
[09:13] <Myrtti> ikonia: or there's always been people with ubottu-fu so that you haven't had the need to read the documentation
[09:15] <ikonia> when I make mistakes people normally correct me so , probbly
[09:15] <ikonia> probably
[09:15] <topyli> Myrtti: that's how i've managed to avoid reading man tar all these years
[09:16] <Myrtti> ikonia: that's why there's many of us instead of one magical $seveas
[09:16] <Myrtti> team effort ♥ 
[09:16] <ikonia> yes, always handy to have someone around who knows it off the top of their head
[09:17] <Myrtti> and I haven't read the documentation for ubottu, ever.
[09:18] <Gary> elky: done
[09:19] <elky> Gary, ta
[09:19] <Seeker`> ubottu has documentation now?
[09:19] <Seeker`> never knew that
[09:26] <jussi01> ubottu: has had a wiki for _ages_
[09:26] <jussi01> oops
[09:29] <jussi01> ikonia: ping
[09:31] <elky> Myrtti, heh, they noticed, eh? i wonder if they'll still remember next time they tell us we never do anything they want
[09:31] <Myrtti> hehe
[09:32] <jussi01> did someone fix that !language yet?
[09:33] <elky> i mean, they conveniently forget that i actually start and join in conversations in the channel when it suits them
[09:33] <jussi01> !language
[09:33] <Myrtti> jussi01: ohmy is better now, but idk if I cba to do !language to be an alias to !ohmy
[09:33] <Myrtti> :-P
[09:33] <jussi01> !ohmy
[09:33] <elky> language should really be pertaining to the language of the channel
[09:33] <Myrtti> jussi01: I don't know if it's necessary either
[09:34] <jussi01> yeah, Im just thinking that !ohmy is starting to impinge on !attitude territory
[09:34] <elky> !attitude
[09:34] <elky> jussi01, not really
[09:35] <jussi01> hrm, thats not the one I was thinking of. but yeah..
[10:48] <ikonia> bazhang: sorry for the slow response
[10:49] <bazhang> ikonia, thanks; I am watching in other channels as he was doing it in #kubuntu as well
[10:49] <ikonia> I'm waiting for him to start again in #kubuntu
[10:49] <ikonia> I read te backlog
[10:49] <bazhang> just waiting for him to /j #ubuntu 
[10:55] <bazhang> incoming in -ot
[10:56] <ikonia> who ?
[10:56] <bazhang> chronic
[10:57] <bazhang> chronic, you were warned in #kubuntu to stop with foul language and attitude
[10:57] <bazhang> chronic, then you joined #ubuntu+1 and continued there anyways
[10:58] <bazhang> !coc | chronic 
[10:58] <bazhang> !guidelines | chronic 
[10:58] <chronic> why should i be constrained by your petty rules?
[10:58] <bazhang> chronic, read those
[10:58] <ikonia> chronic: thats enough now
[10:58] <bazhang> chronic, you neednt be
[10:58] <bazhang> chronic, just depart freenode ubuntu channels
[10:58] <ikonia> chronic: if you don't want to follow the ubuntu rules, leave the ubuntu channels, 
[10:58] <Myrtti> chronic: because IRC is not democracy, if you don't follow the rules, you don't need to use the channels.
[10:58] <ikonia> chronic: the rules apply to all ubuntu channels
[10:59] <ikonia> chronic: do you agree to follow the rules, yes/no ?
[11:00] <chronic> fuck no
[11:00] <Gary> chronic: maybe this network is not for you then
[11:00] <Myrtti> then feel free to satisfy your curiosity about Ubuntu in some other venues
[11:00] <ikonia> chronic: no problem then leave the ubuntu channels
[11:00] <bazhang> chronic, please feel free to exit freenode ubuntu channels then
[11:01] <Myrtti> ♥ 
[11:01] <Myrtti> peace and love for all.
[11:01] <bazhang> chronic, you are not even using ubuntu
[11:01] <chronic> what am i using?
[11:01] <bazhang> chronic, so why join ubuntu channels
[11:02] <bazhang> as you said, you have not switched from windows
[11:03] <chronic> not switched doesn't mean not using linux
[11:03] <ikonia> it doesn't matter
[11:03] <ikonia> don't follow the rules - don't join the channels
[11:03] <bazhang> chronic, you refuse to follow the rules
[11:03] <Myrtti> why are we continuing on this discussion?
[11:03] <ikonia> exactly
[11:03] <Myrtti> I think it's got no point
[11:04] <bazhang> chronic, and you are very abusive to others, even threatening to shoot them in the face with a shotgun
[11:04] <ikonia> Myrtti: remove him from offtopic and lets go about our dday 
[11:04] <ikonia> day
[11:04] <Myrtti> chronic: was there anything else you want help with in regard the Ubuntu IRC channels in Freenode?
[11:04] <chronic> dude , i said it was a joke, 
[11:04] <ikonia> this is pointles
[11:04] <bazhang> chronic, it is not funny to threaten violence against others
[11:04] <Myrtti> chronic: ha                      h... erm.
[11:04] <Myrtti> :-|
[11:05] <Myrtti> anyway, boring.
[11:05] <ikonia> yes, leave #ubuntu-offtopic and go about your day as your response of "fuck no" to agreeing to the follow the rules does not make you welcome in the ubuntu channels
[11:06] <ikonia> you've proved this in 2 channels already, so just find somewhere else that fits in with your approach to IRC
[11:06] <chronic> bazhang, hey it was funny the way i said it,
[11:06] <ikonia> thank you
[11:06]  * Myrtti watches -ot
[11:06] <ikonia> Myrtti: just remove him, he said he won't follow the rules
 ziroday, if i had a shotgun i would shoot u in the face, oh wait, i do have a shotgun
[11:07] <ikonia> and he's backed that up in other channels
[11:07] <Myrtti> how fun
[11:07] <jussi01_> I really didnt see any reason to continue the discussion.
[11:07] <ikonia> jussi01_: there wasnt one - follow the rules, "fuck no" end of discussion
[11:07] <Gary> silly boy
[11:08] <Myrtti> ikonia: he hasn't done anything worth kickban in there yet
[11:08] <ikonia> Myrtti: he's made it clear he won't comply with the rules
[11:08] <ikonia> Myrtti: and backed it up in other chanels
[11:08] <ikonia> why let someone who publicly says they won't follow the ubuntu rules for the channels in 
[11:08] <Seeker`> There is far too much discussion with clearly uncooperative users
[11:08] <ikonia> (just my opinion)
[11:09] <Gary> Seeker`++
[11:09] <Seeker`> when they are asked if they are going to follow the rules and they reply "fuck no", what exactly do you expect to happen by discussion with them
[11:09] <Gary> but a attempt at catalysing is always worth a go
[11:09] <ikonia> Seeker`: exaclty, - bye
[11:09] <Myrtti> and there we go
[11:09] <Seeker`> "oh wait sorry i was wrong, I'll stop being an abusive troll because you asked me 3 times"?
[11:09] <ikonia> Seeker`: more so after you've hit two are channels to prove you're not willing to follow the rules
[11:10] <jussi01> someone can remove the ban in here in a while if you like
[11:10] <Myrtti> I personally prefer the people actually making the error on the particular channel for them to be kickbanned before doing so pre-emptively
[11:11] <Myrtti> so I don't have to explain it to the other users and that they also get a first hand experience on what behaviour is not tolerated
[11:11] <Gary> I've catalysed trolls who have turned into valid useful members of the irc network, it can happen
[11:11] <Myrtti> Gary: +1
[11:11] <ikonia> Gary: there is room
[11:12] <ikonia> Gary: not saying that, but with that attitude of "fuck no" it's not going to happen today
[11:12] <Myrtti> I also would like to think that each user has to be given a choice to behave
[11:12] <Myrtti> each separate time
[11:12] <ikonia> Myrtti: yes, but also how many in one hour
[11:12] <ikonia> Myrtti: he hit #ubuntu+1 #kubuntu, #ubuntu-ops with abuse/racism/offense 
[11:12] <ikonia> Myrtti: and make a clear statment that he would not change
[11:12] <ikonia> let him have a day or so out and negotiate a change
[11:13] <Seeker`> i dont think they should be permanently banned for 1 bad day
[11:13] <ikonia> Seeker`: I agree
[11:14] <Seeker`> but there reaches a point in the discussion that it is clear that they aren't going to change their mind today
[11:14] <ikonia> Seeker`: exaclty, #
[11:14] <ikonia> exactly
[11:14] <Seeker`> typically, discussions in here will last 15 minutes or so longer than that point
[11:14] <ikonia> with a little time out he may realise that he wants to use the channels and has to abide by a few things to re-gain access
[11:14] <bazhang> here was about five seconds
[11:14] <Gary> and that makes me headbutt the desk
[11:15] <bazhang> oof
[11:15] <Gary> I have bruises!
[11:15] <bazhang> !ouch
[11:15] <bazhang> hmph
[11:15] <Seeker`> for example, he was here for over 6 minutes after saying there is no way he would follow the rules
[11:16] <bazhang> now in #ubuntu
[11:16]  * Myrtti loads her gun
[11:16] <Seeker`> and it just degrades to "dont do that" "i'll do it if i want" "dont do that" "i'll do it if i want" "dont do that" "i'll do it if i want"...
[11:16] <bazhang> awww
[11:17] <bazhang> ikonia, too qucik
[11:17] <bazhang> also quick even
[11:17] <ikonia> I hear that all too often :(
[11:17] <jussi01> bazhang: quick question,  do you have +i set?
[11:17] <bazhang> hehe
[11:17] <bazhang> jussi01, is that invisible mode?
[11:17] <elky> Myrtti, i would have taken the direct-to-the-face shotgun threat as being cause for removal
[11:18] <jussi01> bazhang: kinda
[11:18] <bazhang> jussi01, not sure how would I set? /mode +i ?
[11:18] <jussi01> bazhang: when thye whois you they can only see channels you both share that you are in
[11:18] <Myrtti> elky: sure, but I didn't see that in -offtopic, now did I?
[11:18] <jussi01> /mode bazhang +i
[11:19] <bazhang> jussi01, thanks much :)
[11:19] <bazhang> elky, it was in +1
[11:19]  * Gary pm's chronic
[11:19] <elky> ah
[11:19] <jussi01_> Gary: thanks
[11:20]  * elky /wii's chronic and raises an eyebrow at his 'real name'
[11:21] <Myrtti> I don't usually kick / kickban people for behaviour I've not personally witnessed on the particular channel
[11:21] <bazhang> reminiscent of moocow/holycow
[11:21] <Myrtti> I think escalating issues from #ubuntu in #ubuntu-offtopic isn't The Way To Go.
[11:22] <Myrtti> the only place where I might kickban person by their behaviour on other channels is here
[11:23] <jussi01> I tend to agree with that sentiment.
[11:26] <ikonia> I would agree with that, but if a user says in here "I won't follow the ubuntu rules" and backs it up with behaviour in 2 channels, what's the point of letting him hit antoer $X ?
[11:26] <ikonia> he's actually warning us in advance "I'm going to be a problem for you"
[11:32] <Myrtti> that's one way of looking at it. I personally always try to assume good faith. YMMV.
[11:33] <Seeker`> I think that may not be the best attitude to have when they say "I'm going to cause you a problem" and then start doing so
[11:33] <Seeker`> its no good treating each channel as a seperate entity like that, because they aren't
[11:34] <Seeker`> UserX in one channel is the same person as UserX in a different channel
[11:34] <bazhang> though often not for long
[11:35] <Myrtti> Seeker`: that's odd, I'm totally different person on #irssi or #terminator than on any of the Ubuntu namespace channels.
[11:35] <Myrtti> I'm capable of adjusting my behaviour according to the milieu I'm in
[11:35] <Seeker`> Myrtti: We have no control over non-ubuntu channels, so they are (at least partly) irrelevant here
[11:35] <Seeker`> yes, but I'm assuming you're not a complete troll on those channels?
[11:36] <Myrtti> oh boy :-P
[11:36] <Myrtti> I can remember being a total troll in #lugradio :-P
[11:37] <Seeker`> my point is, if someone joins one ubuntu channels, starts playing up, comes in here and says they wont follow the rules, surely they have waived their right to "good faith"
[11:37] <ikonia> adjusting your atttitude to fit in with the channels is the key, some channels are loser than others but if someone warns you of how to behave in that channel/channels you've got a choice of following or - not
[11:37] <Myrtti> but, you ride your horse your way and I use my bike, and if that gets you ahead in life, we're all good.
[11:38]  * Myrtti sods off back to work
[11:41] <bazhang> I read that as 'loser'
[11:41] <Myrtti> bazhang: that's what it says
[11:41] <bazhang> hey!
[11:41] <bazhang> kde4 is fine
[11:41] <Gary> meh, pm timesink ftl
[11:42] <Myrtti> and yes, I wouldn't be surprised if it were holycow...
[11:42]  * bazhang huggles Gary 
[11:42] <jussi01_> Gary: bleh
[11:42] <jussi01_> Gary: come and visit me!
[11:42] <Myrtti> Gary: we love you
[11:42] <Gary> jussi01_: where?
[11:42] <Seeker`> Gary: you still commuting silly distances / times?
[11:43] <jussi01_> Gary: in bath, (no, not *in* the bath)
[11:43] <Gary> Seeker`: I live in nottingham Sunday to Friday, and Colchester Friday night to sunday
[11:43] <Seeker`> Gary: "yes" then :P
[11:43] <Seeker`> jussi01_: where are you headed after bath?
[11:43] <jussi01_> home...
[11:44] <jussi01_> via london
[11:44]  * Myrtti dances a little jig of 11d, 12h, 5m, 40s!
[11:44] <jussi01_> hehe
[11:44] <Seeker`> jussi01_: how long in london?
[11:44] <Myrtti> BOOMCHACA!
[11:44] <jussi01_> Seeker`: dunno
[11:44] <Seeker`> and whereabouts?
[11:44] <Gary> where is bath/
[11:45] <jussi01_> again... not sure
[11:45] <jussi01_> Gary: down by Bristol?
[11:45] <Gary> eek, miles away
[11:45] <jussi01_> :/
[11:47] <Seeker`> jussi01_: you are visiting all the wrong places :P
[11:47] <ikonia> very miles away
[11:48] <ikonia> 3 hours 50 minutes
[11:48] <jussi01_> heh
[11:48] <ikonia> Gary: if you drive now, you'll make it for an early dinner
[11:48] <Gary> ikonia: lol
[11:48] <Gary> I'm at work
[11:48] <Seeker`> I reckon its about 2 hours from here to Bath
[11:48] <Seeker`> maybe a bit longer
[11:49] <ikonia> Seeker`: yeah, 1:45 says tomtom bath->essex
[11:49] <ikonia> tomtom is known to lie
[11:49] <Gary> Seeker`: where are you?
[11:49] <ikonia> Seeker was asked to leave Bath city for being associated with the white stilleto crew
[11:50] <jussi01_> ikonia: pm
[11:50] <Seeker`> Gary: just north of london
[11:50] <Seeker`> ikonia: I'm not in essex :P
[11:50] <bazhang> :0
[11:50] <ikonia> Seeker`: ooh, I thought you where
[11:50] <Seeker`> never have been
[11:50] <ikonia> hence the white shoe push
[11:50] <Seeker`> I'm in hertfordshire
[11:50] <ikonia> oops
[11:50] <ikonia> sorry
[11:51] <ikonia> tar'd and feathered you already
[11:51] <jussi01_> hehehehe
[11:52] <ikonia> Seeker`: I just realised that from when you showed me the photos
[11:52]  * ikonia apologies to seeker and removes the chav badge
[11:53] <Seeker`> :)
[11:57] <Gary> hey, nothing wrong wiv essex ;'(
[11:58] <ikonia> shat uuup
[11:58]  * Gary cries
[12:01]  * Myrtti goes to slop some Voltaren gel on her wrists
[12:11] <bazhang>  [_sunny_v_666] (n=syedibti@59.97.33.238): Syed I T seems familiar
[12:20] <bazhang> wait is daemonmdv ryan farmer? the foxconn guy?
[12:20] <elky> i suspect
[12:21] <elky> what was the nick he was using when we had to kick him out last time?
[12:22] <bazhang> daemonfc
[12:22] <Myrtti> erm
[12:22] <Myrtti> really?
[12:22] <Myrtti> no...
[12:22] <bazhang> no?
[12:22] <elky> bazhang, i mean back when the spammerificness was happening
[12:23] <bazhang> oh ryan farmer
[12:23] <elky> yah
[12:23] <bazhang> I'll have to check k-ot logs
[12:23] <elky> although, i can check mjg's blog for hostmasks
[12:25] <elky> aha
[12:25] <elky> 07-08-2008 03:25:56 -!- AlmightyCthulhu!n=Almighty@c-68-57-223-4.hsd1.in.comcast.net has joined #ubuntu-kernel
[12:26] <Myrtti> I smell a FISH!!! :-DDD
[12:26] <Myrtti> *snoofsnoof*
[12:27] <bazhang> hehe
[12:27] <Myrtti> bazhang: you cunning sly thing you
[12:27]  * Myrtti bows
[12:32] <ikonia> chronic back in #ubuntu
[12:32] <ikonia> just keep an eye on him 
[12:33] <Seeker`> ikonia: seen his real name? (dont know if it has changed from earlier)
[12:33] <ikonia> always been that
[12:33] <ikonia> I'm going to try to talk to him calmly - see if he' calmed down yet
[12:34]  * Myrtti loads her gun just in case
[12:36] <ikonia> ahhh good he's responding
[12:40] <ikonia> started well
[12:41] <ikonia> then again stated he would not follow the rules and he didn't care about them and it was freespeech so he's say/do what he wanted
[12:41] <ikonia> I see no reason in continuing beyond that
[12:45] <ikonia> I think panarchy is in #ubuntu using a different nick
[12:45] <ikonia> ban dodging
[12:46] <bazhang> panarchy1 ?
[12:46] <ikonia> thats him
[12:46] <ikonia> oh no
[12:46] <ikonia> that's not a nick
[12:46] <ikonia> no-one signed in as panarchy1
[12:46] <bazhang> just look for the one that does /me says hi upon entrance
[12:47] <ikonia> I don't think he's that dumb
[12:47] <Tm_T> ikonia: really?
[12:47] <ikonia> 12:45 < Panarchy> Cause the number of users within the #ubuntu channel, goes off the list!
[12:47] <ikonia> he's in colloquy askign them to dd filters
[12:47] <ikonia> how can it be causing him a problem if he's not allowed in #ubuntu
[12:48] <ikonia> would it be out of line for me to ask a staff member to check based on his history of ban dodging ?
[12:49] <elky> ikonia, christel responds to pm when she's around usually. he made promises to her ;)
[12:50] <ikonia> he may not be to be fair to him, but his comments in the other channels make me suspect he is
[12:50] <jussi01_> ikonia: pm
[12:52] <elky> ikonia, it's not just freenode he hits either. oftc and gimpnet both get struck with stupid questions about his pathetic distro
[12:52] <Tm_T> what distro?
[12:53] <bazhang> debris?
[12:53] <elky> he stole someone else's hacky thing and renamed the iso iirc
[12:54] <bazhang> super ubuntu to something else
[12:54] <Tm_T> :-P
[12:54] <Tm_T> kids...
[12:54] <bazhang> its super!
[12:55] <ikonia> super ubuntu to panarchy
[12:55] <ikonia> just renamed the iso
[12:55] <ikonia> although that was just his old release, it's much better now
[12:55] <ikonia> etc
[12:55] <elky> as in, he stole different isos this time?
[12:55] <ikonia> he's been warned about advertising it, yet he hit #debian and #remote-exploit with it, asking people to join #panarchy to work on his distro with him
[12:55] <ikonia> elky: yeah, I'm sure he's just picked something more obscure this time
[12:56] <Tm_T> I blame Ubuntu
[12:56] <Pici> I blame people who blame things
[12:56] <bazhang> wait..
[12:58] <Tm_T> I have noticed that these years when Ubuntu came and made opensource more aknowledged, there has been more and more of these people who exploits and rapes community and whole opensource ideology
[12:58] <Tm_T> or perhaps I just have been in wrong place to notice these things earlier
[12:59] <Seeker`> as the number of people using something grows, the number of stupid people grow
[12:59] <Seeker`> at first, it is usually reasonably bright people that picked up linux
[13:00] <Tm_T> Seeker`: ah, but I don't mind about peoples brightness, but about their arrogance and rudeness
[13:00] <Seeker`> but ubuntu has lowered the bar of entry so low and the community is so large that it attracts a larger number of trolls
[13:00] <Tm_T> true
[13:00] <bazhang> the coc can take care of that
[13:00] <Pici> The CoC doesnt screen them from trying
[13:01] <bazhang> true
[13:01] <ikonia> no harm in trying
[13:01] <ikonia> its the running before walking that would be handy to get a grip on 
[13:01] <bazhang> it seems to have been written with Eastern Philosophy in mind though
[13:01] <ikonia> Hi, I've never used linux before, I want to build me own distro, re-write a kernel module, and build a cluster, where do I start
[13:01] <ikonia> I need this for tommorow
[13:01] <ikonia> HEEEEEEELP!!!!!!!
[13:01] <bazhang> ie how to get along in big crowds, harmony etc
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[13:02] <bazhang> haha
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[13:02] <ikonia> that sort of enthusiasm is great, and if they stick with it will normally grow to something good
[13:02] <Tm_T> ikonia: Myrtti met someone who wanted to build operating system using Python
[13:02] <ikonia> bazhang: no, panarchy's tales of what he can do is far biggere than that
[13:02] <ikonia> Tm_T: yes, I read that, "good luck"
[13:02] <Tm_T> ikonia: indeed
[13:03] <bazhang> ikonia, true, I was referencing the frenetic style he has :)
[13:03] <elky> Myrtti, did? i have one of those in my loco channel. convinced that the kernel being in C is a waste, and it should be ported to python.
[13:04] <Tm_T> elky: how did he explain how that would work?
[13:04] <elky> gets all huffy when i point out the python is not fully capable on a non-C plaform, and that it's self-interpreted version is a mere fraction of the original
[13:04] <Tm_T> huffy?
[13:04] <elky> Tm_T, no, just explained how i'm stupid and naieve
[13:04] <elky> Tm_T, 'hrmph!'
[13:05] <Tm_T> aaah
[13:05] <Myrtti> Tm_T: it was elky who bumped into him, not me :-P
[13:05] <Tm_T> Myrtti: aah, sowwy, my old brains etc
[13:05] <elky> Tm_T, Myrtti just laughed about it with me
[13:05] <Tm_T> aye
[13:17] <Myrtti> I'm happy that you guys figured out who he was
[13:44] <ikonia> iw uottu.com going super slow for everyone, or just me ?
[13:45] <ikonia> *is*
[13:46] <Pici> ikonia: Its working fine for me
[13:47] <bazhang> fine here
[13:49] <ikonia> Pici: just come back for me too
[13:50] <ikonia> just went through a massive lag on that one site ??/
[13:50] <jussi01> *ahem* ubottu.com?
[13:51]  * jussi01 apologises for any unresponsiveness there for a few mins... (Im using the cpu...)
[13:51] <Pici> I'm using my cpu too!
[13:51] <jussi01> hehe
[13:51] <jussi01> I killing it 
[13:52] <ikonia> ahhh
[13:54] <Myrtti> jussi01: compiling mozilla-qt or something else nasty and kde-ish?
[13:54] <Myrtti> ew...
[13:54] <jussi01> doing a migration from the sqlite to postgres for the quassel db... 3gb worth of DB
[13:54] <Myrtti> ew. kdeish as I suspected, but congrats on choosing postgresql ♥ 
[13:56] <jussi01> :D
[14:04] <Pici> Why do people use xampp?
[14:05] <Myrtti> !xampp
[14:05] <Tm_T> Myrtti: Qt is KDEish now?
[14:05] <Myrtti> what's xampp anyway?
[14:05] <Myrtti> Tm_T: -ish
[14:05] <jussi01> !info xampp
[14:05] <Tm_T> Myrtti: still (:
[14:06] <Pici> http://www.apachefriends.org/en/xampp.html
[14:06] <Tm_T> Myrtti: there's Qt4-based irc bot (no gui involved) too, is that KDEish? (;)
[14:06] <Pici> Its a (l)amp package
[14:06] <ikonia> good xampp should exst
[14:06] <ikonia> exist
[14:06] <Pici> m4v: How can we help you today?
[14:06] <Myrtti> proftpd ewwww
[14:07] <m4v> about a troll in  #kubuntu
[14:07] <m4v> assilva is a troll which I have to ban from kubuntu-es, he's taunting me from there now.
[14:07] <ikonia> m4v: is he doing anything in #kubuntu ? 
[14:07] <bazhang> he just quit
[14:07] <Tm_T> m4v: you can also use ops call with nick and explanation so we get alarmed (:
[14:08] <ikonia> m4v: is he a regular user - or first time offense ?
[14:08] <m4v> yeah, he just left, get was just taunting me, I didnt think in using !ops
[14:09] <m4v> yes, he's well know in k-es
[14:09] <ikonia> I guess we can keep an eye out for his behaviour
[14:09] <m4v> he comes and insults in portuguese, since he's from brazil, he's banned un #ubuntu-br as well
[14:09] <m4v> in*
[14:10] <m4v> alright, thanks
[14:10] <ikonia> he didn't look up to much good in #kubuntu with his "obuntu penis" remarks
[14:10] <ikonia> we can keep eye out for his behaviour
[14:10] <ikonia> call the ops next time 
[14:10] <ikonia> can react quicker then
[14:11] <m4v> ok, thanks. I'm leaving then. cya
[14:11] <ikonia> bye
[14:56] <Myrtti> I really hate lmgtfy.com links
[15:36] <jussi01> ikonia: prod
[16:01] <jussi01> !away > jgoguen|away
[16:09] <jussi01> !logs
[17:09]  * Pici looks around for the troll repellent 
[17:25] <jussi01> ikonia: pm
[18:09] <Pici> I've had it up to here with offtopicness in #u+1
[18:10] <Seeker`> Pici: do something about it then?
[18:10] <Pici> Seeker`: I will
[18:11] <Pici> I'm going to try to keep it more on topic there in the future
[18:11] <ikonia> Pici: I try 
[18:14] <ikonia>  I'llk talk to him in pm - 
[18:14] <ikonia> I've had this discusion with him before about 9.04 in #ubuntu
[18:14] <Pici> Okay
[18:14] <ikonia> hence why he ended up in +1
[18:20] <ikonia> time to drive home - 
[18:20] <ikonia> for the record
[18:21] <Pici> Thanks for the update ;)
[18:21] <ikonia> http://http://alesi.projecthugo.co.uk/conversation.txt
[18:21] <ikonia> I'll take it down in a minute
[18:22] <Myrtti> *sigh* BUGabundo
[18:22] <ikonia> looks like he's making his "I'm out" stand.... but not going
[18:22]  * Myrtti awaits for the rants to pour in to Gwibber
[18:22] <ikonia> gwibber ?
[18:23] <Myrtti> identi.ca/jaiku/twitter
[18:23] <Pici> Rants for what?
[18:24] <ikonia> now people are telling people to lie in +1
[18:24] <Seeker`> lie about what?
[18:24] <Pici> Hrm, I'm sort of surprised that maco said that
[18:25] <ikonia> I'm a bit dissapointed
[18:25] <Pici> Indeed
[18:25] <ikonia> I don't think it was meant as it sounds
[18:25] <ikonia> looks like he just wanted to feed the channel with a discussion, 9.04 layout would have been good
[18:26] <Myrtti> ikonia: GO HOME
[18:26] <ikonia> waiting for my boss first
[18:26] <ikonia> he's daudling
[18:27] <ikonia> dawdling ?
[18:27] <LjL> Pici: what did he say?
[18:27] <LjL> ah the above i guess
[18:27] <ikonia> now he's trying to pick a fight for some reason
[18:28]  * Myrtti is almost tempted to ask you to tell him come here
[18:29] <ikonia> I'm sure he's fine, just thinks kicking bugabundo was harsh
[18:29] <Pici> who? maco?
[18:29] <ikonia> which to an extent it was
[18:31] <ikonia> it would be nice to get -ot more "useful" as offtopic chatter, that way you could have a genuine offtopic discussion there
[18:31] <ikonia> I do see his point that if you wanted to have an offtopic discusion a #kubuntu or #+1 was quiet may as well have it as joining -ot is just random
[18:32] <Pici> her
[18:32] <LjL> ikonia: i don't
[18:32] <ikonia> oops
[18:32] <LjL> logical fallacy
[18:32] <ikonia> Pici: thank you
[18:32] <ikonia> LjL: I don't agree with what he's saying about let it ride, but there isn't a place to have an offtopic conversation
[18:33] <LjL> ikonia: yes there is, it's #ubuntu-offtopic, and the fact that you might not find the already ongoing conversations in there the "right" sort of offtopic for you doesn't mean anything
[18:34] <ikonia> LjL: no, that's a fair comment
[18:34] <LjL> ikonia: for starters, as we very well know, there's nickname highlights to help one follow a conversation - #ubuntu only works because of that. #ubuntu-offtopic can work likewise.
[18:34] <ikonia> I should say "I" don't find it a good place to have an offtopic conversation 9 times out of 10, that doesn't mean it doesn't work for others
[18:34] <ikonia> it's not hard to follow people, I didn't mean that
[18:34] <ikonia> it's just random
[18:35] <ikonia> (I know it's meant to be offtopic) 
[18:35] <LjL> ikonia: it's much, much less random that most channels on this network (and this network tends to be much less random than others). just look, we've been discussing X11 and related stuff for a long while now
[18:35] <LjL> and now that we've stopped, they seem to be talking about VirtualBox and VMWare
[18:36] <ikonia> LjL: it can have good topics in - not saying it's not
[18:36] <LjL> i'd say it's being as ontopic as an ubuntu-related offtopic channel can be
[18:36] <ikonia> I think it's having a rare day 
[18:36] <ikonia> you can get good days in there, no question
[18:36] <ikonia> I'm not putting it down as it works for more people than me
[18:37] <LjL> ikonia: have you ever seriously tried? just started a conversation you felt like starting, without regards to what was being discussed previously, and see if it would catch on and obliterate the previous "random" chatter?
[18:37] <ikonia> LjL: tried a few times
[18:37] <ikonia> not often as I don't normally have specific topics in mind
[18:37] <LjL> Pici: yours is a very good point too
[18:39] <ikonia> DrHalan: right I'm done
[18:39] <ikonia> oops
[18:39] <ikonia> right
[18:40] <ikonia> when I tryped right ir did DrHalen
[18:40] <ikonia> right I'm done
[18:40] <Pici> okay..
[18:40] <ikonia> how odd ?
[18:40] <ikonia> didn't do it that time
[18:40] <ikonia> I am done though as my boss has finished
[18:40] <ikonia> laters
[18:40] <LjL> that was an ompaul moment.
[20:17]  * Pici headdesks, repeatedly
[20:17] <Seeker`> Pici: ?
[20:18] <Pici> Seeker`: Someone asking how to send a message to a windows computer from Linux but doesnt have any clue what would receive the message and wants me to tell them.
[20:18] <Seeker`> "a message?"
[20:18] <Pici> Seeker`: You're guess is as good as mine
[20:19]  * Myrtti suggests linpopup, runs
[20:20] <Tm_T> how about Kopete? it has netsend-related plugin
[20:20] <Pici> Myrtti: Most Windows computers have the messenger service disabled, and 'winpopup' is for computers <= Win98
[20:20] <Pici> Tm_T: same thing ^
[20:20] <Myrtti> Pici: yes, I know ;-)
[20:20] <Myrtti> *snigger*
[20:20] <Tm_T> Pici: it's for NT 4 ->
[20:21] <Tm_T> atleast
[20:21] <Myrtti> ooh, those times of netsend
[20:21]  * Myrtti falls into nostalgy since every other form of entertainment fails tonight
[20:21]  * Pici steals Myrtti's answer 
[20:22] <Tm_T> Myrtti: Teppo wasn't verbose about the assembly thing we have coming
[20:22] <Tm_T> we'll see what happens, umpf
[20:22] <Pici> Tm_T: Fine, < Win2k
[20:22] <Myrtti> Tm_T: I couldn't care less about Teppo, I think him and all the rest of the lot apart from topyli are at best "limited" in their understanding
[20:23] <Myrtti> Arto has a clue but uses it quite seldom
[20:23] <Tm_T> Myrtti: aye
[20:25] <topyli> hrm. i don't know much about assemby, never been there and for some reason haven't been very much interested
[20:25] <topyli> perhaps i should go once and get mesmerized by the glow of screens
[20:25] <Tm_T> topyli: you must this year
[20:26] <Tm_T> topyli: btw make sure we get funding for our happening in Joensuu (;
[20:26] <Myrtti> topyli: the glow of the screens is one, the tiredness of the attendants is second, but the demos are Teh Thang 
[20:28] <topyli> Tm_T: i think the mood is to support anything reasonable. there is money
[20:28] <Myrtti> topyli: I still get the darn emails.
[20:28] <Tm_T> I know, just saying as I promised to say
[20:28] <Myrtti> which ticks me off
[20:29] <topyli> Myrtti: i thought you were supposed to be removed by now. afaik there's no business that concerns  you anymore
[20:29] <Tm_T> topyli: supposed =)
[20:29] <Myrtti> I'm just tossing the mails to bin
[20:30] <topyli> i'll bring it up tomorrow
[20:46] <Pici> !ping
[20:46] <Myrtti> jussi01_: what are you doing with her?
[20:46] <Myrtti> moving the database to mysql?
[20:46] <Myrtti> :->
[20:46] <Pici> :P
[20:47] <Myrtti> SRSLY
[20:47] <Myrtti> hm
[20:47]  * Pici pings ubottu's left side some more
[20:47]  * Myrtti considers kicking her from some channels to relieve the pressure
[20:51]  * Myrtti is bored, telnets to towel.blinkenlights.nl
[21:03] <quassel251_> !test
[21:03] <quassel251_> oh for petes sake
[21:18] <Myrtti> oh dear god
[21:18] <Myrtti> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation#Installation%20using%20the%20Alternate%20CD still speaks of Feisty
[21:21] <jussio1> Myrtti: its a wiki, fix it :D
[21:21] <Myrtti> jussio1: would you want to do my job while I'm fixing the wiki?
[21:22]  * Myrtti hands jussio1 the source for a 100+ line bash code infested with sed/awk
[21:28] <Myrtti> no? didn't think so
[21:29] <topyli> Myrtti: the wiki is a wiki, your script is not a wiki
[21:31] <Myrtti> topyli: my script is for making wiki enties in bulk... so, erm, shuddup.
[21:31] <mtinman> test me
[21:31] <topyli> oh, so it is in fact even more wiki than a wiki!
[21:32] <Myrtti> mtinman: you can join #ubuntu already
[21:32] <Myrtti> mtinman: your exploit quarantine was removed
[21:32] <mtinman> Myrtti: thanks...
[21:32] <Myrtti> mtinman: anything else we can help you with?
[21:32] <Myrtti> thanks.
[22:10] <LjL> Myrtti: actually it wasn't removed according to my logs
[22:10] <Myrtti> I was starting to wonder that myself
[22:11] <Myrtti> I have a sneaking suspicion something isn't right about those bots right now
[22:12] <Mez> /mode #mylandline +b *!*@barclaysbank
[22:12] <LjL> Myrtti: well, 3 was the opped one, and 3 also happens to be the one running on my machine, so at least i *can* investigate
[22:12] <LjL> ... except i just typed "nano bot1.log".
[22:12] <LjL> which will now freeze nano for a good half an hour
[22:13] <Mez> LjL: are you actually using my server at all ?
[22:13] <LjL> Mez: actually no, the other two are still running on something naliothish
[22:13] <Mez> LjL: cool, I was just wondering, cause am re-formatting the server soon
[22:14] <LjL> won't be a problem
[22:15] <LjL> Myrtti: ok... although i can investigate, even after investigating, i haven't the slighest idea what happened.
[22:18] <LjL> only explanation i can think of is my bot wasn't running when that fellow was exploited
[22:18] <LjL> though the others were
[22:24] <Mez> hmm, haxor been poking anyone ?
[22:27] <Pricey> (To anyone not in #freenode, sorted)
[22:27] <LjL> does current ubuntu server *seriously* come with a GUI or is that guy just crazy?
[22:35] <ikonia> ljl he is crazy
[22:35] <LjL> ah good
[22:36] <LjL> what's a webmin alternative that isn't ebox or landscape?
[22:36] <LjL> i have this feeling someone mentioned one just a couple of days ago
[22:36] <LjL> but can't remember it or find it in logs
[22:36] <ikonia> eboc
[22:36] <ikonia> ebox
[22:37] <ikonia> @
[22:37] <Flannel> ikonia: read the second half of the first statement
[22:37] <Flannel> :)
[22:37]  * Myrtti hands ikonia a free facepalm
[22:38] <Mez> LjL: plesk? cpanel?
[22:38] <ikonia> flannel, which part on a phone and cant figure out how to scroll
[22:38] <Flannel> LjL: ssh!
[22:38]  * Flannel ducks.
[22:38] <Pricey> Mez: i think webmin etc. is monitoring software?
[22:38] <LjL> Mez: no neither
[22:38] <Mez> Pricey: webmin is management :D
[22:38] <Flannel> ikonia: "what's a webmin alternative that isn
[22:38] <ikonia> control software
[22:39] <Pricey> i'm getting confused
[22:39] <Pricey> what am i thinking of
[22:39] <Flannel> ikonia: "isn't ebox or landscape"
[22:39] <LjL> perhaps it was just landscape, though i can't find a match in the logs
[22:39]  * Myrtti gives everyone lollipops
[22:39] <Pricey> ignore me, i don't knnow anything
[22:39] <ikonia> landscape is the managment app
[22:39] <ikonia> ubuntu satellite style server
[22:40] <Mez> LjL: what you want it for?
[22:40] <Mez> (what is the purpose of the app you want)
[22:40] <Mez> (monitoring, or configuration)
[22:40] <ikonia> this sucks on this phone, back later
[22:40] <LjL> Mez: no i don't want it for anything, just someone in #u asked about webmin, i gave him the factoid, which points to ebox, but ebox is broken (or at least was last i checked), so i remembered someone had mentioned something else
[22:44] <LjL> i mean who cares, but it just gets on my nerves when i think i've heard of something but am not sure what and am not even sure i actually have
[23:14] <turtle_> hey
[23:23] <Mez> LjL: spacewalk?
[23:24] <Myrtti> hello turtle_ 
[23:24] <turtle_> hello
[23:24] <turtle_> how are you doing this east coast evening
[23:24] <Myrtti> how can we help you tonight?
[23:25] <turtle_> i  am formally asking for my ban from #ubuntu to be revoked
[23:25] <turtle_> i think it was ikonia who did it
[23:25] <turtle_> aer you there, ikonia?
[23:27] <Myrtti> turtle_: do you have any explanation on your behaviour on #ubuntu 3rd of March present year?
[23:28] <turtle_> i was acting humoursly at a place and time that it was not called for
[23:28] <turtle_> i sincerly apologize and love listening and helping others in these IRC Channels
[23:29] <jussi01> turtle_: Have you read the CoC?
[23:29] <jussi01> !coc
[23:30] <turtle_> yes, briefly
[23:30] <jussi01> turtle_: do you agree to abide by it and the other IRC rules from now on?
[23:31] <turtle_> yes, you have my word!  I agree and promis
[23:31] <Myrtti> jussi01: *cough*
[23:37] <turtle_> yes sir
[23:37] <turtle_> I do
[23:37] <Myrtti> turtle_: your ban is removed. Please be aware that if your behaviour is a problem again on the Ubuntu IRC channels, the possible bans will not be revoked as quickly
[23:41] <Myrtti> turtle_: if you have no further questions or issues, you're free to leave this channel :-)
[23:42] <turtle_> ok
[23:42] <turtle_> thank you
[23:42] <turtle_> i do oappreciate it
[23:42] <Myrtti> np
[23:42] <turtle_> one ques
[23:43] <turtle_> is this channel restricted to Admins?
[23:43] <Myrtti> yes
[23:43] <turtle_> ok
[23:43] <Myrtti> have fun and thanks for flying with Ubuntu
[23:43] <turtle_> lol
[23:43] <turtle_> thank you
[23:43] <turtle_>  will do
[23:44] <LjL> Myrtti: he called you "sir" and you unbanned him?!
[23:46] <Myrtti> LjL: I think he was referring to jussi01
[23:46] <LjL> ah ok.
[23:47] <Myrtti> who was kind enough to drop the whole issue into my hands, messed the unban, forgot to deop himself and went to bed.
[23:47] <LjL> ah ok.
[23:47] <Myrtti> but I'm not complaining.
[23:47] <Myrtti> no.
[23:47]  * Myrtti sods back to work