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cjaehow do I rebuild kwin00:02
Szadeksomeone knows where can i find a deb of stasks for intrepid ??00:04
oobeaptitude search tasks00:05
ActionParsnipcjae: you can download the source and compile or use apt-build00:12
yao_ziyuanwhere can i install qt 4.5 and/or kde 4.3 (trunk) on kubuntu 8.10?00:12
ActionParsnip!info stasks00:12
ubottuPackage stasks does not exist in intrepid00:12
ActionParsnip!find tasks00:13
ubottuFound: startup-tasks, tasks, tasks-dbg, tasksel, tasksel-data (and 5 others)00:13
ActionParsnipyao_ziyuan: sure it's been released, i'm not sure there are debs yet but theres nothing stopping you compiling it00:13
ActionParsnipSzadek: did you mean startup-tasks?00:13
Szadekno , stasks , is a plasmoid00:15
ActionParsnipSzadek: http://www.kde-look.org/CONTENT/content-files/99739-stasks-0.3.2.tar.gz00:34
ActionParsnipSzadek: compile that00:34
vbgunzim burnt. anyone know the dead easy fool proof rocket science for layman method of using cmake to build konsole for KDE4.2?00:38
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vbgunzKDe 4 honestly took building to a whole new level. prerequisites are through the roofs roof and I am shot tired trying to unencrypt the spaghetti. anyone know how how to build a KDE 4 app?00:39
kikoexcuse me00:40
kikohow can i connect to irc hispano00:40
wesley_where can i find the place where kde stores the icons ?00:41
Elonehello00:43
Dr_willis_AAOhillo00:45
dmmainouhelo... Im runnung kubuntu 8.1 and somehow I deleted the plasmoid on the desktop. Can someone please help me to bring it back?00:46
ActionParsnipwesley_: should be /usr/share/pixmaps00:48
ActionParsnipdmmainou: right click desktop -> add widget is my guess00:48
dmmainouaha.... thank you so much00:50
cjaeis kde 4.2 available without the experimental ppa. respository now?00:52
cjaeon intrepid00:52
Elonecjae, nope^^00:52
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Kerry_Ki810hello00:53
cjaeElone: saw there was a bunch of updates to plasma and such the weren't coming from ppa today so was just wondering00:53
Kerry_Ki810i need some help please:00:53
cjaeKerry_Ki810: is the i810 part of your name stand for something?00:54
Kerry_Ki810i'm running KDE4 on Intrepid, I just uninstalled the KDE3 ver. of dolphin and installed the KDE4 version, now when i try to run dolphin the icon hangs in the taskbar for a while as if it's loading, then it just disappears00:54
EagleScreenlaunch it from a terminal and see the output00:55
Kerry_Ki810cjae - that just means i'm running intrepid, (8.10) - was stuck for a username :)00:55
wesley_ActionParsnip and where are the oxyen? those icons in pixmaps arent the oxyen00:56
Kerry_Ki810.... and if i try to run dolphin from konsole it says it's not installed. lies.00:56
EloneKerry_Ki810, reinstall it then ^^00:56
ActionParsnipwesley_: sudo find / -name *.png > ~/found.txt; kate ~/found.txt00:57
ActionParsnipwesley_: might give some help00:57
Kerry_Ki810it is installed, according to synaptic package man.00:57
tuxiKerry_Ki810: force a reinstall00:57
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Kerry_Ki810ok, i'll try that...00:57
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wesley_ActionParsnip i founded them :)00:58
ActionParsnipwesley_: nice00:58
EagleScreenKerry_Ki810, I hope for you to know the difference between d3lphin and dolphin00:58
wesley_ /usr/share/icons/ so i going copy them to opensuse00:58
Kerry_Ki810what is d3lphin?00:58
Kerry_Ki810i'm trying to run the file manager00:59
EagleScreend3lphin is the KDE3 version of Dolphin00:59
EagleScreenbut in Kuubntunn, d3lphin is also called Dolphi00:59
Kerry_Ki810oh i think that's what i just uninstalled... but it was called dolphin in synaptic00:59
Kerry_Ki810yep i'me using kubuntu00:59
Dr_willis_AAOive herad dolphin called a LOT worse. :)00:59
EagleScreenyes, but they are really two different applications01:00
tuxilook at the description and see if it says anything about 4.201:00
EagleScreeninstall dolphin version 4.xx01:00
tuxiit's dolphin 1.2 for kde 4.2 on my machine01:01
Kerry_Ki810i just tried reinstalling dolphin-kde4.  still not working, don't tell me i have to reboot again....01:01
ActionParsnipwesley_: does it not have the theme?01:01
tuxiwhat did you get when you run it from a konsole, Kerry_Ki81001:01
wesley_ActionParsnip yes it does, but its edited01:01
ActionParsnipwesley_: i see01:01
EagleScreenpurge dolphin and install it again01:02
wesley_The Menu of opensuse i Dont like, its only thing i like in kubuntu, thats its just plain kde01:02
Kerry_Ki810'not installed'01:02
tuxiKerry_Ki810: are you using kde 4.2?01:02
EagleScreenyou shouldnt have dolphin-kde4 in 8.1001:02
tuxifrom the ppa repository?01:02
Kerry_Ki810wait, i just looked at the version info - the dolphin-kde4 version comes from the hardy repo...01:02
Kerry_Ki810i just realised that... my mistake01:03
Kerry_Ki810ok so i uninstall and reinstall the original version01:03
EagleScreenyou musnt mix hardy and intrepid repos01:03
EagleScreenyou have to install dolphin according to your KDE version01:04
Kerry_Ki810my bad then.... :)01:04
EagleScreenKDE 4.0.4 -> dolphin 4.0.4; KDE 4.2.1 -> dolphin 4.2.101:04
Kerry_Ki810but the reason i tried to 'upgrade' dolphin in the first place was because it was crashing when i right-clicked a file01:05
cjaedolphin is not all bad01:05
EagleScreenyou can mix repos if you know how to do it without breaking the system lol01:05
EagleScreenKerry_Ki810 but which Kubuntu version do you have?01:06
cjaewhat are the worst things about dolphin besides it gives you a bunch of useless info on the right side by default01:06
Kerry_Ki810yep, the reason i had that hardy repo there was to get some software that wasn't available in intrepid, don't remember what it was......01:06
EagleScreenKerry_Ki810 I think the best choice is to upgrade to 8.10, and upgrade to KDE 4.2.1 from launchpad PPA01:07
Kerry_Ki810would that be 'kubuntu-desktop'?  1.10101:07
EagleScreenthat is intrepid version01:08
Kerry_Ki810what is launchpad ppa? (please excuse my ignorance...)01:08
EagleScreena repo with KDE 4.201:08
Wazmynhow do ya make a package install even if a dependancy is broken?01:08
wesley_I Hope Kubuntu 9.04 is stable when its released, because it isnt now :(01:08
EagleScreenWazmyn you cannot do it, the package won't run01:09
EagleScreenwesley_ it is in Alpha state01:09
Kerry_Ki810this one??   http://ppa.launchpad.net/mozillateam/ubuntu intrepid main01:10
EagleScreennot01:10
WazmynEagleScreen: well, i'm wanting ot try, 'cause it says its dependant on 4.4.2.0 and i've got 4.4.2.1 installed01:10
ActionParsnipwesley_: yeah ive had issues with it too but its not released so what did you expect :)01:10
EagleScreendeb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-experimental/ubuntu/ intrepid main01:10
wesley_ActionParsnip do you have had freezes ?01:11
Kerry_Ki810ooh i don't like that experimental word lol01:11
Kerry_Ki810but i'll add that to my repo list, thanks01:11
ActionParsnipwesley_: no boot due to it checking power stuffs, disabled acpi and it crawled along01:11
EagleScreenWazmyn which package?01:11
wesley_Ive ActionParsnip so no freezes ? I have had freezes most time when running firefox with java,01:12
wesley_Can it be that freezing is caused by the ext4 system ?01:14
EagleScreenext4 causes a lor of problems01:14
EagleScreenincluding data loss01:14
ActionParsnipwesley_: java is a pain, specially in 64bit01:14
EagleScreenmya be in 2.6.30 ext4 to be ready01:15
Kerry_Ki810ok i'm back:  with my original problem01:16
Kerry_Ki810i got dolphin running now, but when i right-click a file/folder it crashes01:16
EagleScreenWazmyn which package did you say?01:16
wesley_yeah i run 64 bit, but i havent see any problems on opensuse from freezing01:16
Kerry_Ki810this is the error that comes up in konsole:01:16
Kerry_Ki810symbol lookup error: dolphin: undefined symbol: _ZN14KonqCopyToMenuC1EP7QWidget01:16
Wazmyndamn, why can I not stay connected01:16
EagleScreenKerry_Ki810 what version of dolphin and KDE?01:16
ActionParsnipwesley_: then opensuse suits you better01:17
wesley_But what i am wonder should i reinstall the kubuntu 9.04 dev system ( i use seperate hard drives for kubuntu and opensuse )01:17
WazmynEagleScreen: I want to install kdeplasma-addons, it's dependent on kdeplasma-addons-data01:18
WazmynEagleScreen: first one is dependent on version 4.4.2.0, but i've got 4.4.2.101:18
EagleScreenare you trying to install kdeplasma-addons 4.2.0?01:19
WazmynEagleScreen: yes01:19
tom_how do i make so that after 10 minutes my screen turn of and not the screensaver turn on01:19
EagleScreeninstall 4.2.101:19
tom_i mean i know how to disable the screensaver but i want the screen to turn off instead01:20
Kerry_Ki810aha!  dolphin 4.2.1,   kde-base 4.2.001:20
WazmynEagleScreen: s'not in the repo01:20
EagleScreenyes it is, reload the sources01:20
Kerry_Ki810so i need to upgrade kde01:20
wesley_No Kubuntu is kind of my favorite system, but i felt like i needed to give opensuse a try, because its has a high reputation as kde distro ( Apt still feels better )01:20
EagleScreenOpenSuse is a good distribution01:21
Wazmynok, why the heck dind't it reload when i opened synaptic?01:21
WazmynEagleScreen: thankya01:21
EagleScreenbut where a Debian based is..01:21
Kerry_Ki810oh dear..... so much needs to be upgraded here........01:21
tom_whats the difference between ubuntu and debian01:22
Kerry_Ki810thanks for the help people,  i'll upgrade this lot and be back if i have any problems01:22
EagleScreenyou have to reload the package list by clicking reload button, synaptic never reloads the list of packages automatically01:22
wesley_But he opensuse got more men then Kubuntu, but i still think Kubuntu is a great distro01:22
WazmynDebian is a huge distro, ubuntu is based on it focusing on being a desktop distro, tom01:23
tom_ok01:24
Wazmyntom, debian also has a relegious zeal about being totally free and opensource. Ubuntu will incorperate propriatary packages to make life easier01:25
tom_Wazmyn: ok thanks for explaining :)01:25
Wazmynsure01:26
wesley_guys a ssd does that speed up your desktop experience ?01:26
co-workergood morning01:27
tom_wesley_: depends on much stuff01:28
tom_for example if you got a fast cpu01:28
tom_and if your old hdd was alredy pretty fast you wont see much difference01:28
ActionParsnipwesley_: depends what its used for01:28
tom_and as ActionParsnip says01:29
wesley_internet, porn, video, being the fake nerd, dating, uh gaming ( wesnoth )01:29
wesley_i have a hd with 16 mb cache01:29
tom_no a ssd wont improve :P01:30
ActionParsnipwesley_: no i mean what will the disk be used for, if its for data storage, no. if its for the OS itself, probably not01:30
tom_or well in theory it will but you wont see any difference01:30
wesley_os and data storage on home01:30
wesley_but i read storys about faster bootup01:31
ActionParsnipwesley_: i'll be less bursty which may make it faster as platter based hdd is sloooow01:31
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wesley_but does that help when my home is a normal hd ( ssd are kind of expensive )01:32
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tom_go for a normal hdd01:33
co-workerwhat time now?01:33
wesley_i have a 7200 rpm hd on of 500 gb and another of 1 Tb but both have only 16 mb cache01:35
ActionParsnipwesley_: for your needs, you can get away with a 5gb / and use the rest for /swap and /home01:35
ActionParsnipwesley_: get a raid card (or use crappy fake raid) and use raid, lots faster01:36
wesley_raid is combining of 2 hds ( i dont have place for 2x 3.5 hds, its a mini itx case01:36
ActionParsnipah tha'll do it01:37
ActionParsnipwesley_: technically raid0 isnt raid ;)01:38
wesley_I have now my system lying open, hd on table and if i wanna change i plug out and plugin the other01:38
ActionParsnipwesley_: if you wanna swap OS easily then yeah usb / sd card is awesome01:39
wesley_i do that to with a external hd, but on suse that wont work, it will get confused, and says, cant find hd blablab01:41
wesley_ive just taken my external hd apart, so i cant put other sata drives on it to01:42
ActionParsnipwesley_: you could have a boot partition on the internal drive then tell that to boo the sd cards01:43
wesley_i know :)01:44
vbgunzwhen you go to add a widget, whats the hour glass mean?01:47
Wazmyntime01:49
* Wazmyn wishes he could stay connected to the friggin' internet01:52
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co-workerIs there any server Ip list01:59
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ActionParsnipGuest18955: server list in what sense?02:00
ActionParsnipGuest18955: what sort of server02:01
Guest18955other  channel02:01
ActionParsnip!channel02:01
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ActionParsniphttp://searchirc.com/search.php?SCHANS=1&SSORT=SIZE&N=freenode02:02
GoodMoringlist02:02
GoodMoringTHakns02:02
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failersis akonadi mysql?02:30
draik_I thought I worked out all of the kinks from my desktop, but it is still freezing.02:31
draik_I'm not sure what else to try as this only happens on my Kubuntu HDD. I have XP on another HDD, but it doesn't happen there.02:32
draik_This is the 2nd HDD with the same issue.02:32
failersfreezing?02:33
failerswhere does it freeze how often , etc02:33
failerskinda need some more info :P02:33
draik_It freezes every time at different intervals02:33
ooberight clicking konsole does not give me any copy dialogue how do i enable this02:33
draik_Like now, it froze after I entered my password. I see the image of the HDD, but the 2 following images are blurry02:34
failersdraik_ what kind of graphic card you got02:34
draik_nVidia GeForce FX 5700LE02:34
failerswich driver02:35
failersversion02:35
draik_9602:35
failersok then i dont know because i had similiar problems on my nvidia card but it was with the 180.35 driver so i had to downgrade02:36
draik_96.43.09 to be exact.02:36
draik_Now it froze once I actually got within KDE02:37
luanSlt quelqu'un parle francais ???02:37
draik_!fr | luan02:37
ubottuluan: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr02:37
cesar_hola02:38
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draik_There used to be a way of seeing what services start at boot. Is that still around?02:39
PKodon#winehq02:40
PKodonHmm, that was supposed to be a join.02:40
draik_Begin with         /j02:41
failersdoes kubuntu use mysql? or is it just preinstalled02:42
failersis it safe to remove02:42
draik_Seems pre-installed and I don't see an issue with removing it02:43
fungoshow can I create a bootable USB from a kubuntu CD image?02:43
failers!unetbootin02:43
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about unetbootin02:43
failershmm fungos google unetbootin02:43
Guest80846hola02:43
fungos:) googling already02:44
fungosfailers: look it is what I need! thank you02:45
failersnp02:45
failersim using it daily02:45
failers:P02:45
failersworks pretty good02:45
Dragnslcr!usb02:45
ubottuFor information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent02:45
DragnslcrSecond link might also be useful02:46
fungosthanks! my problem is that I'm currently out of burners and out of CD to burn :D  just a usb stick to save the day (..night)02:47
draik_How do you reconfigure the phigh settings again?02:48
draik_sudo dpkg-reconfigure _____?_____02:48
tuxidraik_: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg (iirc)02:51
draik_tuxi: Thanks. That seemed to do it02:52
tuxinp02:52
tuxiI always have to search for it02:52
draik_What is the best method for automounting?02:55
draik_I have a total of 4 HDDs and would like the other 3 there in /media02:55
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naught101how can I make xmodmap changes permanent in kubuntu? .Xmodmap file doesn't seem to have any effect03:18
fungosi have a notebook with a modified kubuntu wiith kde 3.5... but knetworkmanager wont appear wireless options. where can I check or enable it? wi-fi led is on03:21
draik_I just added a few things within /etc/fstab. I hope it all works out.03:21
draik_tuxi: I did the command and now I'm left without OpenGL03:21
draik_I'm rebooting now and seeing what happens.03:21
draik_!log03:23
ubottuOfficial channel logs can be found at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ - For LoCo channels, http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/03:23
draik_!logs03:23
EtFbHow do I set up a mailserver so I can use PHP's mail() function and similar, from localhost?03:24
yao_ziyuanwill qt 4.5 be available in ppa.launchpad.net soon?03:28
SlartibartfastEtFb: I am not really sure what the php mail() function does, but if it sends out mail you'll need an SMTP server ..03:31
SlartibartfastLike exim403:31
Elone!mailserver03:31
ubottuUbuntu supports the Simple Mail Transfer Protocol (SMTP) and provides mail server software of many kinds. You can install a basic email handling configuration with the "Mail server" task during installation, or with the "tasksel" command. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MailServer and https://help.ubuntu.com/7.10/server/C/email-services.html03:31
EtFbSlartibartfast: Thanks.  (Oh, and well done on those fjords.  Excellent work.)03:35
SlartibartfastEtFb: Thank you :-)03:35
jishihola a todos03:45
EtFb!es|jishi03:45
ubottujishi: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.03:45
jishigracias03:45
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cerrieheyy03:57
cerrieanyone here good with Ardour?03:57
oobecerrie, im not04:05
zaibach333hello04:28
krizhola04:28
zaibach333I'm quite new to linux, but I just switched from mandriva to kubuntu04:28
zaibach333and I dont know if I clicked something wrong durring installation or something but I have barely any software.04:29
zaibach333I used the dvd04:29
tanjiryou can install the softwares seperately04:29
zaibach333right04:30
tanjirare you using kubuntu or ubuntu?04:30
zaibach333kubuntu04:30
zaibach333the package manager has way less than I expected04:30
zaibach333but I may just be searching for the wrong things04:30
tanjiroh.... you can use synaptic packagee manager04:30
zaibach333I'm using Adept04:31
zaibach333is that the different?04:31
Slartibartfastzaibach333: or kpackage install :-)04:31
tanjiri am not sure about the difference... may be all the repos are not added or configured properly04:31
zaibach333there's an add sources area in it04:32
zaibach333no wait there doesnt seem to be04:33
tanjirthere is i think some where04:33
tanjiri am also not too old in kubuntu :P but i had the same confusion you have04:33
tanjirthen used synaptic manager and most of the time i use sudo apt-get install packagename04:34
zaibach333I just sortof want all the software that I enjoyed in mandriva, this is kde4 so I dont think that should be a problem04:34
zaibach333am I gonna need to use the terminal more?04:34
kanon-matfor kde there is adept manager04:34
kanon-matwith  gui04:34
zaibach333do I have to download it?04:34
zaibach333oh04:35
zaibach333no I have adept04:35
zaibach333people were talking about another one04:35
kanon-matu have it :) maybe u need to add some repos04:35
zaibach333hows that?04:36
tanjirkpackage?04:36
kanon-matrun it and click Adept > manage repositories in the menu of adept04:36
Slartibartfasttanjir: yes, i find kpackage a nice gui for all the software i would need ...04:37
mason_Just a quick question: Does anybody have a good, free partition manager that they highly recommend?04:37
zaibach333Adept only has fetch package list, and apply changes kanon-mat04:37
kanon-mati use systemrescuecd04:37
kanon-matah04:38
Slartibartfastzaibach333: it there no source section ?04:38
Slartibartfastedit sources04:38
zaibach333theres that, under a world icon04:38
kanon-matisnt that is the adept-notifier, zaibach333?04:38
SlartibartfastUse that04:38
kanon-matSlartibartfast, maybe knows better :)04:39
mason_kanon-mat: I was also wondering what parts of partitioning actions are dangerous? Like, resizing, deleting, creating, or what?04:39
kanon-matyou should always back up04:39
zaibach333ah, should I add my install dvd to the third-party. I'd think the dvd has more04:39
zaibach333or should I just add third-party04:40
mason_Ah, I'm just wondering, because I'm using wubi and never tried partitioning :'(04:40
kanon-matu will have fresher packages from the internet, zaibach33304:40
Slartibartfastzaibach333: everything what is on DVD and even much more is also online04:40
zaibach333ok04:40
Slartibartfastsee for a manual in theis URL https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu04:41
Slartibartfastthis*04:41
kanon-matif you are going to do partitioning, you better read up, mason_04:41
zaibach333under the kubuntu tab I have everything but source code checked off. I assume source code wouldnt be in package form04:42
zaibach333server for united states04:42
Slartibartfastzaibach333: you'll probably indeed not need the source code04:42
SlartibartfastIf you are located in the USA that wiould be good04:43
kanon-matmaybe there are more than one us server?04:43
Slartibartfastwould*04:43
zaibach333well if everythings running normally am I just looking for software I can't use04:43
Slartibartfastwhat software you want?04:44
zaibach333starting off I just wanted to download firefox, and update amarok to their new version04:44
Slartibartfastamarok2 is part of kde 4.204:44
zaibach333I found something that game me a bunch of nonopen stuff like flash, java, mp304:45
zaibach333I had a newer amarok on mandriva04:45
Slartibartfastnot sure if it is wise to run amarok2 in kde 4.104:45
zaibach333that was on 4.1.304:45
zaibach333could I update to 4.2?04:46
Slartibartfastyou can ... it is in the backports04:46
Slartibartfastpre-released updates04:47
zaibach333how do I update that (backports)04:48
zaibach333I mean, how do I update with that04:48
Slartibartfastit is also under sources in adept manager04:48
Slartibartfastafter selected that you need to update your package list04:49
zaibach333select backports? where04:49
Slartibartfastin Adept manager04:50
zaibach333sources04:50
Slartibartfastyes04:50
zaibach333right, but where in there04:50
Slartibartfastupdates04:50
Slartibartfasttab04:50
Slartibartfastit is not called backports anymore04:50
zaibach333pre-released updates?04:50
Slartibartfastyeah04:51
Slartibartfastmaybe you could also add "unsupported updates" :-)04:51
zaibach333okay... that doesnt sound too good though04:52
Slartibartfast:-) i know ... but i think they won't put things in there which will break your system04:52
zaibach333okay so let me start finding apps I want04:53
zaibach333I dont like konqueror and I can't find firefox04:54
zaibach333there's addons and plugins for firefox04:54
zaibach333*extentions04:54
Slartibartfastfor java, mp3 and flash there is a meta package04:55
Slartibartfast!restricted04:55
ubottuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:55
Slartibartfastkubuntu-restricted-extras04:55
Slartibartfasti think you should be able to find firefox ...04:56
coreymanso in windows, i have bunches of different file views for a folder, like icon, thumbnail, list.... with the default kde file viewer, how can i set this option for a particular folder04:56
coreymantry sudo apt-get update before trying to install a package04:56
coreymanand then just use sudo apt-get install firefox04:57
coreymanyou dont even have to look for the name in an annoying manager, all done from the cmd line.04:57
Slartibartfastzaibach333: if you can not find some packages you always can try to install those from the commandline ... open a console and type "sudo apt-get install firefox"04:58
SlartibartfastBut indeed you might want to update the package list first with "sudo apt-get update"04:58
zaibach333coreyman:  it just locked up saying sudo04:58
Slartibartfastafter sudo you ned to put in your password04:59
coreymanzaibach333 "sudo apt-get update" locked up?04:59
user1015148how do i get more widgets04:59
zaibach333nm your right password04:59
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coreymanhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=519310 @ user101514805:01
zaibach333why do I need a password, I just wanted a root password05:01
Slartibartfastyou need to put in a password because you will install software05:02
zaibach333right05:02
user1015148ok thank you05:02
Slartibartfasta normal user has no write rights in /usr05:02
zaibach333yeah, so you type su right?05:02
Slartibartfastno05:02
Slartibartfastroot is by default disabled in (k)ubuntu05:03
zaibach333oh dear05:03
Slartibartfastto become root .... do sudo -i05:03
zaibach333no that's fine05:03
Slartibartfastbut you'll just use your normal password05:04
zaibach333I still can't get firefox05:04
zaibach333you all have firefox I assume05:04
coreymanyea i do05:04
coreymanwhy can't you type in the password05:04
zaibach333what for sudo apt-get install firefox05:04
coreymanall you have to do is "sudo apt-get update" put in pass, then "sudo apt-get install firefox"05:04
coreymanthe password is your usernames password05:05
oobeyeah its not that hard god05:05
oobeinfact its easier05:05
zaibach333oh I had to close my package manager05:05
coreymanyes you should have posted the error05:06
coreymanit would have said cannot get lock05:06
coreymanand i would've told you to close your package manager05:06
zaibach333sorry05:06
coreymanits cool05:06
zaibach333I've never used sudo apt-get. I used some unpronouncable urpmi or something like that05:07
coreymanhmm >.> lol.. never heard of it.05:07
coreymani use apt-get to install everything05:07
Slartibartfastzaibach333: Yeah and fedora has yum :-) ... and opensuse has zypper05:08
coreymanim sure you could install more management systems, but apt-get is the most commonly used.05:08
zaibach333no it's working fine05:08
coreymanand i've only been using kubuntu for 3 days now .. so >.>05:08
zaibach333you're not new to linux I assume05:09
Slartibartfastzaibach333: if you want to search for software you can use "apt-cache search package"05:09
coreymanyes i am05:09
coreymansee i didn't know that ^^^^05:10
Slartibartfastwell i am not that new to linux :-) ...05:10
coreymandoes apt stand for aptitude05:10
SlartibartfastNo05:11
Slartibartfastaptitude is another console package manager05:11
coreymanyea i figured it used that.05:11
Slartibartfastbut i find it not very intuitive05:11
coreymani find apt-get the best way to install/uninstall05:12
coreymannow that i know you can apt-cache search i will be unstoppable05:12
Slartibartfasti rather like apt and dpkg .... it always gives me a console prompt back :-)05:12
coreymanlol.05:12
coreymani've used both, what's the difference05:12
zaibach333I write little text files containing these things. but I couldnt find kwrite with alt-f2. grr. I used some random one that opend another text file05:13
Slartibartfastaptitude is just another program as apt ....05:13
coreymanzaibach333 sudo kwrite05:13
Slartibartfastzaibach333: sudo apt-get install kwrite ...05:14
Slartibartfast:-)05:14
Slartibartfasti guess they want you to use kate instead05:14
coreymanslartibarfast i mean, i've used apt and dpkg whats the difference05:14
zaibach333yeah yeah yeah05:14
coreymancan you configure kate to highlight brackets when you put the blinky line next to it.05:14
* zaibach333 super dance05:14
coreymanlike notepadd++ does05:14
Slartibartfastdpkg is something like rpm ... apt is more do handle dependencies between packages05:15
coreymanslartibartfast so apt in a sense is better05:15
Slartibartfastapt- is still using dpkg to install things05:15
coreymanyea, but it handles dependencies whereas dpkg doesnt05:16
Slartibartfastapt is like a layer over dpkg to satisfy dependencies05:16
coreymanyea.05:17
coreymani understand that, so it makes apt better.05:17
coreymanto use than dpkg05:17
zaibach333how do I get the trashcan on the desktop as a widget05:17
Slartibartfastyes ... better to use apt ... because you can not download the packages with dpkg .... i guess05:18
zaibach333nmm05:18
Slartibartfastzaibach333: there is no option when you right click on the desktop to add widgets ?05:19
coreymanslartibartfast have you ever used notepad++?05:19
zaibach333I mean... just widgets05:19
zaibach333not on that silly desktop widget05:19
zaibach333I dont understand why they chose do do it that way anyway05:19
Slartibartfastcoreyman: long time ago ... although i am not a programmer and not really need that highlighting05:20
coreymanoh ok slartibartfast05:20
coreymanzaibach333 you can create a link on your desktop to the trash folder.05:20
coreymaninstead of a widget05:20
Slartibartfastbut i think kwrite can do a lot of handy things for programmers05:20
coreymankwrite let me look :D05:20
coreymanhaven't used it yet05:20
coreymani've been configuring my OS05:21
coreymanjust imported all my files from windows a min ago05:21
zaibach333I'm dragging apps on the screen and it makes widgets of em05:21
coreymanlol slartibartfast, i uninstalled kwrite since i installed kate... reinstalling..05:22
SlartibartfastHehehe .. just opened some source code file with it and it looks pretty cool :-) with all the colors and so05:22
coreymanoh shiz, kwrite does highlight the braces05:22
coreymani need to change some of the colors tho05:23
coreymanand uninstall kate05:23
Slartibartfastzaibach333: Yeah ... welcome to the new KDE world :-)05:23
zaibach333woo05:23
coreymanslartibartfast you know what i love about the kde menu05:23
coreymanthe first tab is /favorites05:23
coreymanjust boom boom theres my ap05:24
Slartibartfast:-) yeah ... can add anything you like there ...05:24
coreymanyea :D05:24
Slartibartfasti also have folder view on my desktop and added some application starters there05:24
Slartibartfastjsut one click and start that05:24
Slartibartfastjust*05:25
coreymani have a folder view of my home05:25
Slartibartfasti have the home dir as icon on the desktop in folderview05:26
earleHello. My weather plasmoid has been broken since 4.2. Any suggestions how I can rectify that?05:27
zaibach333I dont remember everything I had with mandriva so I'm gonna make a virtual box of it. yay apt-get05:28
coreymanyay apt-get :P05:28
coreymanwell im going to go  boot into windows and see what colors notepad++ uses (i am so used to those colors) so i can config my kwrite05:28
Slartibartfast:-)05:29
Slartibartfastzaibach333: IF you want the latest virtualbox software you can add another line in your /etc/apt/sources.list05:30
Slartibartfastdeb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian intrepid non-free05:30
Slartibartfastsee http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads05:31
anahatahi05:34
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Guest20640How can I check if my video driver has been installed? Since Ive instealled KDE4, the screen is flashing off and on every three seconds or so.06:27
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SandGorgondid any of you guys check out the Droid fonts on your Desktop - very cool...06:48
DarkriftXanyone know how i turn off (or reset) my laptop screen? when it went to sleep the screen got scrambled (my secondary monitor is fine)06:52
yao_ziyuanis there an easy way to upgrade to qt 4.5 without upgrading to jaunty alpha?06:52
Mamarokyao_ziyuan: there is a PPA repo for Qt 4.506:53
Mamarokbut I don't recomend it, it seems to be quite buggy in Intrepid06:54
yao_ziyuanMamarok: tell me anyway06:54
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yao_ziyuanMamarok: i'm so interested in qt 4.5's fix of the tray drawing06:54
Mamarokyao_ziyuan: https://launchpad.net/~andreas-wenning/+archive/ppa06:55
yao_ziyuangreat06:56
yao_ziyuanMamarok: buggy, for example?06:56
Mamarokyao_ziyuan: there are issues with konsole, you should use another setting, wait06:56
Mamarokuse "konsole --graphicssystem raster" instead of the basic setting06:57
Mamarokand there are strange transparency glitches06:57
yao_ziyuan...06:57
Mamaroklike with kmenu06:57
MamarokI don't know if it's a good idea to switch over yet, at least not with Intrepid06:57
Mamarokworks fine in Jaunty though06:58
yao_ziyuanuh06:58
Mamarokmy boyfriend switched to it yesterday on Intrepid, and he is pondering going back to 4.4.3...06:58
yao_ziyuanMamarok: you a geek girl?06:59
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yao_ziyuan:P06:59
Mamarokyao_ziyuan: yes, so what?06:59
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yao_ziyuanwonderful.07:00
Mamarokthere are lots of women here07:00
yao_ziyuanhello women!07:00
Philo06Ive just installed kde on Ubuntu and the screen keeps turning off and on every three seconds or so.07:02
Philo06Any idea how to fix it>07:02
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DarkriftXis there a way to make X print out its current xorg.conf? i think the nvidia settings app just made changes to it07:03
DarkriftXnvm, checked file date07:04
MamarokPhilo06: more information please (versions, graphic card, etc.)07:05
Philo06Intel 945 GM, Ubuntu 8.1007:05
MamarokPhilo06: it should work...07:08
Mamarokwhich KDE?07:08
Philo06KDE407:08
Mamarok4.1?07:09
Philo06Good question. Im not quite sure.07:09
SandGorgonwill the new QT4.5 get incorporated in kubuntu anytime soon? I dont want to get experimental repositories07:09
MamarokPhilo06: make sure you didn't miss packages07:11
Philo06Yea, that seems like a real possibility.07:11
MamarokSandGorgon: it's in Jaunty07:11
DarkriftXwhat do i put in xorg.conf to disable a specific display?07:11
DarkriftXand how come i went to bed last night with ubuntu 7.10 and awoke today with 8.04 :S07:13
MamarokDarkriftX: we,, you did a dist-upgrade I guess07:13
Mamarokit doesn't change itself07:13
Mamarokwell*07:14
DarkriftXwell, in this case id say it did. dist upgrades arent someting you accidentally do07:14
DarkriftXive done em :S07:14
MamarokDarkriftX: FYI, Kubuntu 8.04 is *not* LTS, only the underlying packages (kernel, etc.)07:15
Mamarokthe KDE part is not07:15
husaynhow to  map a remote network drive in Kubuntu07:23
husaynlike in windows we right click Network and then MAP NETWORK DRIVE07:24
husaynhow to do in Kubuntu07:24
Mamarokhusayn: you need smbfs07:25
Philo06Hmm... I had to disable RANDR07:26
Philo06Not real sure what it is, but it worked.07:26
rex_forgive me if I give the wrong information..... under file manager - network - add network folder?07:26
Mamarok!samba07:26
ubottuSamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.07:26
Mamarokrex_: only if it's a Linux drive, remote Windows drives you need samba07:27
rex_oh sorry ^^07:27
Mamarokrex_: don't be sorry, your answer is partly correct :)07:28
Mamarokok, afk for breakfast07:28
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DaddyLonglegsI can't open up konqueror. Can anybody help me please?07:34
DaddyLonglegsI can't run konqueror from menu. When I run "sudo konqueror" in terminal I get this message: http://pastebin.com/d6ceaa37 Can anybody help me please?07:39
MamarokDaddyLonglegs: sorry, but the info in pastebin is not usefull, as you don't have the -dbg packages installed07:43
devilsadvocateDaddyLonglegs, does just running konqueror from the terminal work? (no sudo)07:43
MamarokDaddyLonglegs: try the following:07:43
Mamarokkillall konqueror07:44
Mamarokthen just run it from konsole as devilsadvocate said07:44
DaddyLonglegsdevilsadvocate: Nope. It says "A fatal error occured..."07:44
devilsadvocateDaddyLonglegs, thats all it says ? :| hmm07:45
MamarokDaddyLonglegs: also, your Kubuntu version would be helpful07:45
DaddyLonglegsMamarok: I tried killall konqueror, no process killed though.07:45
DaddyLonglegsdevilsadvocate: No. Thare is a bit more information on the fatal error window. Do you need them?07:45
DaddyLonglegsMamarok: I'm running kubuntu 8.1007:46
Mamarokwhich KDE?07:46
DaddyLonglegsKDE 4.207:46
devilsadvocateDaddyLonglegs, so when you run from the terminal, it comes to the point where a window pops up and says fatal error? do you see any seemingly useful output on the terminal?07:47
DaddyLonglegsdevilsadvocate: It says: http://pastebin.com/d765d8bf5 I'm not sure if it's useful.07:48
devilsadvocateDaddyLonglegs, not very useful. im not sure what could be wrong07:54
DaddyLonglegsdevilsadvocate: Everything was fine yesterday. I don't know what could have happened to it :(07:55
DaddyLonglegsdevilsadvocate: Thanks anyways.07:55
zaibach333how do I get compiz or compiz fusion to run on kubuntu. I typed sudo apt-get install compiz already07:55
Slartibartfastzaibach333: Why would you want to use compiz if kwin already can do a lot of the things compiz can07:57
zaibach333kwin?07:57
Slartibartfastthe window manager of kde07:57
Slartibartfastzaibach333: You already installed kde 4.2 ?07:58
zaibach333how do I do that07:58
zaibach333can I with apt-get07:58
SlartibartfastHmmm you already did an "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade" ?07:59
zaibach333I dont know about the upgrade07:59
zaibach333I'll try that07:59
Slartibartfastzaibach333: apt-get update just updates the available package list .... upgrade really installs the newer versions08:00
zaibach333it ran but I think since I'm running a virtualbox it didnt update that08:01
zaibach333seems to be the message08:01
zaibach333does that mean I'm on 4.2?08:02
zaibach333maybe I should check that somewhere08:02
Slartibartfastyou are running the program virtualbox in Kubuntu? .....08:02
zaibach333yeah08:02
SlartibartfastThat does not stop upgrading other software08:02
zaibach333its got a list of things it did08:03
zaibach333how do I know if I'm on 4.2?08:03
zaibach333do I need my install disk in when I upgrade?08:03
Slartibartfastzaibach333: No ... from now on you don't ned to use the install disk anymore08:04
Slartibartfasteverything is downloaded from the net08:04
zaibach333k, on mandriva it would ask for the medium on every other rpm I installed08:05
Slartibartfastbut if you upgraded to KDE 4.2 you should have seen those packages been instaleld08:05
Slartibartfastzaibach333: if you have that in your package manager configured that it also looks on the CD/DVD yes it will ask to also use those when installing things ...08:06
SlartibartfastBut normally a (k)ubuntu install will disable those after having been installed08:07
zaibach333ok08:07
twilightnocturnecan someone tell me what package provides mysqld ? I need to install it to compile amarok from svn08:07
zaibach333so where do I look to find my kde version08:07
fontknockertwilightnocturne: mysql-server08:07
twilightnocturnethanks :)08:08
SlartibartfastMmm ... open Dolphin  and choose help and then about KDE08:08
zaibach333Slartibartfast: 4.2.0 looks like I did install.... and what he's talking about the mysql thing. that installed when I rebooted. why do I need a database server?08:09
Slartibartfast:-) ... because some programs need to use this to store info ... i guess08:09
zaibach333:)08:10
zaibach333so back to compiz08:10
SlartibartfastLike my amarok version ... 2:2.0.2mysql5.1.30-0ubuntu108:10
zaibach333what was that kapp that you mentioned08:11
SlartibartfastOK ...08:11
SlartibartfastYou already installed a 3D driver for you graphics card ?08:11
SlartibartfastThat kapp is "kpackage"08:12
zaibach333I should have08:14
Slartibartfastzaibach333: What graphics card you have ? ....08:14
zaibach333eh..... like a radeon 920008:14
zaibach333I have my good one on a windows pc08:14
SlartibartfastIf you open Konsole and type "glxinfo | grep direct" ... Is direct rendering on ?08:15
zaibach333Error: unable to open display08:15
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zaibach333woah, I can't use glxinfo08:16
Slartibartfasthuh08:16
zaibach333and my sound isnt working08:16
Slartibartfast"glxinfo" without the grep also gives an error about not being able to open display? .... You don't need to use sudo08:17
Slartibartfastjust as normal user08:17
zaibach333ah, fixed it. they added a mixer channel called "digital/analog" defaulted wrong08:17
zaibach333sry08:17
zaibach333I dont need sudo08:17
zaibach333I dont quite know what you mean08:17
SlartibartfastI mean ... don't use glxinfo as root user08:18
zaibach333I typed it again08:18
zaibach333direct rendering: Yes08:18
SlartibartfastOK :-)08:18
SlartibartfastThats good08:18
Slartibartfastzaibach333: Go now to System Settings08:19
Slartibartfastin your Kmenu08:19
zaibach333k08:19
SlartibartfastChoose "Desktop"08:19
SlartibartfastCheck on "Enable Desktop Effects"08:20
zaibach333oh neat. is the cube in here?08:21
SlartibartfastYeah08:21
Slartibartfastand sphere08:21
Slartibartfastand cylinder :-)08:21
Slartibartfastand wobbly windows08:21
zaibach333hmmm08:22
zaibach333this isnt as easy though08:22
zaibach333I want any of my desktop managers to be ctrl+alt+click08:23
Slartibartfastzaibach333: You can configure a lot of those effects08:23
SlartibartfastLike i have now the cube effect configure when i move the mouse in the upper right corner08:23
Slartibartfastthe Grid effect when in the bottom right corner08:24
Slartibartfastand show all windows in the upper left corner ... itis no compiz so it behaves a little different08:25
MarikawnHey I'm new to IRC, can someone help me register my name?08:25
zaibach333show all windows is working nicely08:25
Marikawnwhenever I go to register it tells me that I have an invalid e-mail, can I not use my hotmail e-mail?08:26
SlartibartfastMarikawn: Check out #freenode08:26
SlartibartfastThis is about Kubuntu08:26
MarikawnThanks08:26
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zaibach333how do I get my windows to stick to things when I hold shift and drag them around08:32
Slartibartfastzaibach333: Not sure if that effect is available ... would like to know also :-)08:33
zaibach333aww08:34
zaibach333these wobly windows are nice, very different than the compiz ones08:34
Slartibartfastmaybe later08:34
Slartibartfasti like the snow effect too :-)08:34
zaibach333aww, I can't get the alt-tab effects to sort through all desktops08:36
SlartibartfastBut still can have cover flow08:36
zaibach333hmm08:37
Slartibartfastor flip switch08:37
Slartibartfastand in the general tab you can choose what effect you wawnt to use when using that pager applet in your taskbar08:38
zaibach333how exactly do you use the desktop grid cylinder sphere ect?08:42
zaibach333I'll set up a corner and it doesn nothing08:42
SlartibartfastWell as i know it is you use the cube, the sphere or the cylinder effect08:43
Slartibartfasthere i use right upper corner for cube effect, left upper corner for show all windows effect and right bottom corner for grid effect //// any of the effects will happen when i put the mouse pointer in that corner08:46
naught101how can I make xmodmap changes permanent in kubuntu? .Xmodmap file doesn't seem to have any effect08:47
Slartibartfastnaught101: shoulld that not be ~/.xmodmaprc ? ... i am not really familiar with this though08:52
naught101Slartibartfast: possibly - it isn't usually..08:52
Slartibartfastnaught101: and if you make the changes in /etc/X11/Xmodmap ?08:53
naught101Slartibartfast: I would prefer to do it in my user account, since I frequently re-install08:53
Slartibartfastnaught101: you could make a shell script which you then can put in ~/.kde/Autostart08:54
naught101Slartibartfast: yes, I'm a pedant though - I want to know why this isn't working. I'll try .xmodmaprc first08:57
Slartibartfastnaught101: as i said i am not really familiar with this ... some systems seems to use .Xmodmap ... other .xmodmaprc08:59
naught101yeah - I'll link them, then it'll alwasy work :)08:59
naught101always08:59
SlartibartfastYes .. can do08:59
oobeuptime[13h 39m 29s]09:10
oobeos[Linux 2.6.27-11-generic i686] distro[Ubuntu "intrepid" 8.10] cpu[2 x AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5600+ (AuthenticAMD) @ 2.90GHz] mem[Physical: 2.0GB, 39.2% free] disk[Total: 1.1TB, 23.3% free] video[nVidia Corporation GeForce 8400 GS] sound[HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia1: SAA7134 - SAA7134]09:10
ActionParsnip1oobe: why do we need to see that?09:13
ubuntu_omg09:13
ubuntu_this kubuntu is fantastic09:13
oobei like it09:14
oobei just installed a fresh copy on intrepid 8.1009:14
oobevery nice09:15
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ubuntu_i am on 9.0409:17
ubuntu_that's great09:17
igor_hello, after recent upgrate konqueror doesn't start (I using ppa KDE 4.2), the message from terminal is:09:17
igor_KCrash: Application 'konqueror' crashing...09:17
igor_sock_file=/home/igor/.kde/socket-igor-laptop/kdeinit4__009:18
Tm_Tigor_: you shouldn't use ppa09:18
igor_but KDE 4.2..09:18
Tm_Tigor_: is in backports09:18
igor_ok, I'll check09:19
igor_thx09:19
Tm_Tigor_: np, see kubuntu.org09:19
ActionParsnip2igor_: I've seen lots of people saying konqueror is crashing09:21
barnoidfor me it was a problem with the webbrowsing profile09:22
barnoidI recreated that profile and it worked09:22
Tm_Tbarnoid: with ppa packages?09:22
barnoidTm_T: yeah09:22
Tm_Tbarnoid: as said, don't use them09:23
barnoidTm_T: is 4.2.1 in backports?09:23
Tm_Tbarnoid: no its not yet09:23
Tm_Tbarnoid: nor is made to proper shape for intrepid09:23
Tm_Tunless you're willing to be tester, don't use ppa (;)09:23
igor_I looked again, and its possible that only part of packages was recompiled for 4.2.109:24
Tm_Tyes09:24
Tm_Tkubuntu-experimental is not for "normal user"09:24
barnoidTm_T: I wanted to see if it fixed some crashes09:24
igor_))09:25
Tm_Tbarnoid: heh, when you try something untested, you might end up having issues, so...09:25
barnoidTm_T: but I might go back to 4.2.0 for peace of mind :)09:25
SlartibartfastTm_T: You know if the wobbly window effect later on will have sticky window edges ?09:27
Tm_TSlartibartfast: no, I don't know, sorry (:09:28
SlartibartfastTm_T: OK ... maybe will ask in #kde then09:28
ActionParsnip2Slartibartfast: i thought it already had it09:28
igor_<barnoid>: for it renaming prifle also helped09:29
ActionParsnip2Slartibartfast: well, in compiz i remember it having it09:29
SlartibartfastYes ... but i am not going to --replace kde-window-manager anymore :-)09:29
ActionParsnip2hehe09:30
* ActionParsnip2 replaces it with fluxbox ;)09:30
igor_barnoid: thx09:30
* Slartibartfast likes kde 4.2.1 a lot and would welcome the sticky/magnetic window edges ;-)09:31
ActionParsnip2the i would ask in #kde09:32
SlartibartfastActionParsnip2: will do .... but seems the people there are a sleep :-)09:32
ActionParsnip2try a little later09:32
Slartibartfastyes, will do09:33
sigma_zawhat is the default pdf reader in ubuntu called?09:40
Slartibartfastsigma_za: Here (on Jaunty (9.04) ) Okular opens a pdf file09:43
sound_fxHello, I have an interesting problem. I hear the startup/shutdown sounds, but I get no sounds from the rest of my applications (amarok, flash videos, etc.)09:45
Slartibartfastsound_fx: You have installed kubuntu-restricted-extras09:47
Slartibartfast?09:47
ActionParsnip2!sound09:47
ubottuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP309:47
SlartibartfastToday i also found out that i did not have  kubuntu-restricted-extras installed. Did have sound from flac files and did here the start-up sound, but not from mp3's and video files09:49
SlartibartfastBut ... that last thign could also have been caused by the development-status of Jaunty :-)09:51
sound_fxAh, I don't see a check mark option for "Enable Sound System"09:52
sound_fxJust a device preference and backend tabs09:52
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sound_fxwhen I do a "groups" I don't see audio listed, could that be the issue?10:02
ActionParsnip2sound_fx: i'm not a memeber eiter and sound is fine here10:05
ActionParsnip2sound_fx: andy adm dialout cdrom plugdev lpadmin admin sambashare10:05
sound_fxOk, mine looks the same.10:06
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Guest51089#ubuntu-cn10:24
root#ubuntu-cn10:25
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ActionParsnip2Guest76063: are you loggin in as root?10:27
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cjaeanyone have two entries for apps in the kickoff application launcher kde 4.2, one with the icon and one with just a gear10:32
ActionParsnip2cjae: thats normal10:33
cjaeActionParsnip2: really did nt see it on last install10:33
ActionParsnip2cjae: the icon one is a gues at what you want to run, the gear will execute the command as it stands10:33
cjaeok10:34
cjaeActionParsnip2: so you're running kde 4.210:34
ActionParsnip2cjae: indeed10:34
cjaeActionParsnip2: um do you have smplayer installed?10:35
cjaeor do you cli it10:35
shadeslayerhey10:37
cjaeActionParsnip2: I am wondering because mplayer in my opinion is very good and smplayer is supposed to be the best gui for it10:37
ActionParsnip2cjae: there is no best10:37
shadeslayerhehe10:37
shadeslayer!best10:37
ubottuUsually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.10:37
ActionParsnip2cjae: best doesnt exist outside of your own head10:37
Guest53401hello10:37
cjaeActionParsnip2: right10:37
* ActionParsnip2 hates the word "best"10:37
* cjae hates when trivial words are aruged :p10:38
shadeslayerlol10:38
Guest53401How can I set my name??????????10:38
ActionParsnip2cjae: so dont listen to people telling you what they think, try a few gui's to see what you think10:38
ActionParsnip2!nick | Guest5340110:38
ubottuGuest53401: Information about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname . Registration help available in #freenode10:38
shadeslayerGuest53401: /nick <nick>10:38
cjaeActionParsnip2: I have if lu let me tell you I am not doing a poll10:38
ActionParsnip2cjae: i didnt trigger ubottu, shadeslayer did10:38
shadeslayer:O10:39
shadeslayerLies10:39
ActionParsnip2haha10:39
shadeslayer:P10:39
ActionParsnip25-10 in the pen for you10:39
shadeslayer;)10:39
shadeslayerbtw so many upgrades today10:40
ActionParsnip2cjae: millions swear by vlc but if you prefer mplayer then thats cool too. I use it myself but without a gui so its lighter10:40
shadeslayerkde icons and plasma10:40
shadeslayerActionParsnip2: nox10:40
cjaeActionParsnip2: the gui is nice for other ppl using box and for g/f, anyway saying that about mplayer I have dled smplayer and kmplayer10:40
shadeslayer:)10:40
ActionParsnip2shadeslayer: yeah there was a few, shame i wont see half the stuff its downloading10:40
shadeslayerwhy??10:40
cjaesmplayer seems to be extremley messed up10:40
shadeslayerwork??10:40
ActionParsnip2shadeslayer: i dont use kde as my desktop only kde apps in fluxbox10:41
cjaestarts like ten min into movie and such and crashes10:41
shadeslayeroh yeah remembered10:41
ghostcubecjae: vlc :-?10:41
shadeslayervlc rocks10:41
shadeslayer:)10:41
cjaewas seeing if this is happening with otherppl10:41
ActionParsnip2vlc-nox if you gotta use vlc10:42
shadeslayerbtw today was arguing with my friend that at least 20 pc of the people using PC's use linux10:42
cjaeam using vlc right now h.p. 4 goblet10:42
ActionParsnip2cjae: run mplayer from konsole, when it does you will have some intelligent info10:42
shadeslayernot far fetched right??10:42
cjaesmplayer you mean10:43
ActionParsnip2shadeslayer: depends on the demograpic of the sample, you can prove anything with stats10:43
cjaekmplayer works fine though10:43
ActionParsnip2cjae: whatever, just launc it in konsole10:43
shadeslayer:)10:43
cjae:$10:43
shadeslayerActionParsnip2: i dont think 20 pc is far fetched10:43
ActionParsnip2cool10:43
ActionParsnip2cjae: mabe smplayer is buggy10:44
shadeslayeris there no #smplayer??10:44
shadeslayer><10:44
ActionParsnip2cjae: try uninstalling it and wiping its settings out in your home folder, then reinstall10:44
ActionParsnip2shadeslayer: #mplayer will help you10:44
shadeslayeri dont use mplayer10:45
shadeslayeri use VLC with GUI10:45
cjaeActionParsnip2: konsole doesn't say shot10:47
cjaeshit10:47
ActionParsnip2keep it clean10:47
cjaeopps10:47
shadeslayeryeah10:47
ActionParsnip2so theres no output to the konsole when it falls over?10:47
cjaesorry usually hands do swear10:47
ActionParsnip2you just get control back10:47
ActionParsnip2cjae: did you run it with a & on the end of the command?10:48
cjaejust tells you its launching smplayer10:48
cjaesmplayer /where my media was/10:48
ghostcubecjae: i think on getdeb is an newer smplayer but iam not sure10:50
cjaeActionParsnip2: ??10:51
ActionParsnip2cjae: ok as long as yu didnt use & thats cool10:51
cjaemplayer from cli is good too10:51
MaGicKanGaRooanyone running into any problems with kde.4.2 and konq?  it crashes on launch :( seems like this chap has the same problem http://www.nabble.com/Konqueror-crashing-at-launch-with-KDE-4.2.1-on-Kubuntu-Intrepid-td22364770.html10:51
ActionParsnip2cjae: is there a verbose output for smplayer?10:51
ActionParsnip2cjae: so you can see whats going on?10:52
cjaewhat does & do10:52
ActionParsnip2& == put to back ground10:52
ActionParsnip2cjae: do yuo use compiz?10:52
cjaeright forgot10:52
cjaekwin10:52
ActionParsnip2ok i dont have to give the example10:52
victimhow do I enable previews in Konqeror with kde4.2, I want to see a pop up with a preview when I mouse over a png10:52
cjaeActionParsnip2: you mean smplayer -v /mymediawhereever/ or something similar?10:53
ActionParsnip2victim: view -> thumbnals I believe10:53
ActionParsnip2cjae: ou'll have to read the man page to find the exact syntax but yeah something like that10:54
cjaeright will10:54
cjaecan you give that exapmle you were talking about?10:54
ActionParsnip2cjae: man smplayer10:55
ActionParsnip2you want verbose outputs and it will tell you exactly what its doing and when10:55
cjaehearing things from other peoples perspectives sometimes make other things click10:55
cjaeI mean with &10:55
cjae<ActionParsnip2> ok i dont have to give the example10:56
ActionParsnip2cjae: i was gonna use compiz as an exmple of what & does but you said you already understood it10:57
cjaeActionParsnip2: could you give the example anyway10:58
* cjae makes puppy dog eyes10:58
victimI found view / preview and ticked it :)10:58
victimwhich changed turned the icons into previews10:59
ActionParsnip2cjae: ok well if you run compiz --replace   to enable compiz11:00
cjaeman smplayer doesn't say to much I thought konsole autmatically verbosed things11:00
ActionParsnip2cjae: it will lock that terminal for the life of compiz, untill you prss ctrl+c or kill compilz11:01
cjaeright like with emerald and metacity11:01
ActionParsnip2cjae: if you use compiz --replace &   it will be sent to the background and you will be able to use the same konsole11:01
ActionParsnip2sure11:01
ActionParsnip2the & will make the konsole active so yuo can spawn multiple processes with the same konsole11:01
ActionParsnip2however if you close that konsole, all the processes it spawned will die too11:02
peng__?11:03
peng__nice to meet you11:03
peng__I'm a comer here11:03
cjaeActionParsnip2: right ok thank you beause that answered an unanswered question in my head from back when I was using beryl11:04
DeVilDeMondeHello everybody, i was wondering if i could get some help.11:04
* cjae tips hat to AP11:04
DeVilDeMondeI'm having some mouse problems and i'm very new to Linux11:04
quassel30hi. i am trying to run opendx but it is telling me it failed to load libWand.so.10. i believe this library comes with imagemagick (which is installed). what is the problem? :\11:04
ActionParsnip2haha beryl was pretty slick11:04
cjaeliked it alot11:05
quassel30i wrote some of beryl :)11:05
ActionParsnip2quassel30: try apt-file11:05
ActionParsnip2quassel30: it will tell you what packages a file is in11:05
cjaehated it with more the one desktop environment11:06
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cjaecool11:06
quassel30i knew it wouldnt work :P11:06
cjaelike the idea of kwin but is not nearly as nice as beryl11:06
ActionParsnip2i ditched both11:06
quassel30ok im using arch, not kubuntu. im just here cause there's more support :P unfortunately no apt-file11:07
DeVilDeMondeit's saying "logitech mouse connected and libusb was found at compile time... possibly caused by a permissions problem... check manual..."11:07
DeVilDeMondeSo i check the manual... which says...11:07
DeVilDeMondeI need to create a script for it inside /ect/hotplug/usb/11:08
cjaeActionParsnip2: thanks again gotta get somethings to eat11:08
DeVilDeMondeExcept... that directory does not exist...11:08
ActionParsnip2quassel30: do you have the file anywhere on your system?11:08
victimActionParsnip2: thanks for the view / preview  tip11:09
quassel30ActionParsnip2: no11:09
ActionParsnip2quassel30: whats the output of: file /usr/local/lib/libWand.so.1011:10
quassel30no such file or directory11:11
quassel30i already did a recursive search, it doesnt exist on my system11:11
DeVilDeMondeI also checked the ubuntu forums, and there was only information pertaining to 6.8, not 6.10 which I'm on...11:11
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quassel30ActionParsnip2: can you use the amazing kubuntu's apt-file and tell me what package it's on? :( im new to arch lol11:13
quassel30don't think there is an equivalent on arch11:13
bazhang!info apt-file11:13
ubottuapt-file (source: apt-file): APT package searching utility -- command-line interface. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1.4 (intrepid), package size 18 kB, installed size 140 kB11:14
bazhangquassel30, you are using arch or kubuntu11:14
quassel30arch11:14
ActionParsnip2ok gimme a sec11:14
bazhangbit offtopic for here11:14
DeVilDeMondeNobody?11:15
bazhangthere is the channel #archlinux for that11:15
quassel30ahh thanks, i tried #arch and there's 4 users lol11:15
bazhangheh11:16
ActionParsnip2quassel30: andy@fileserver:~$ apt-file search libWand.so.1011:19
ActionParsnip2libmagick10: /usr/lib/libWand.so.1011:19
ActionParsnip2libmagick10: /usr/lib/libWand.so.10.0.911:19
DeVilDeMondeit would be real nice to be able to adjust my mouse resolution to 800 dpi11:19
quassel30thanks ActionParsnip211:19
ActionParsnip2!mouse11:19
DeVilDeMonde:)11:19
ubottuEnabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto11:19
victimDeVilDeMonde: are you using kubuntu 6.8? I can't help with your mouse issue, sorry11:20
DeVilDeMondeYes I am11:21
victimI meant 6.1011:21
DeVilDeMondeHow do you get the user's name to pop up in front of your text?11:21
DeVilDeMondeYes I am11:21
victimI just typed the first few letters then pressed tab for auto completion11:22
DeVilDeMondevictim: Thank you11:22
DeVilDeMondeActionParsnip2: that had no help on the logitech problem :(11:22
ActionParsnip2logitech hate linux11:23
ActionParsnip2they flat refuse to support it11:23
m_tadeuhi all11:24
DeVilDeMondeActionParsnip2: I see that... I just want to adjust the DPI of it... and the manual led me to create a script in a directory that does not exist...11:24
victimDeVilDeMonde: try in #ubuntu there's more than 1300 nicks, somebody there might be able to help11:24
m_tadeuI just upgraded to kde4.2.1 in intrepid....now konqueror doesn't load....any ideas?11:24
ActionParsnip2DeVilDeMonde: maybe theres some option you can put in xorg.conf to get the dpi11:24
DeVilDeMondevictim: Thank you I just might...11:24
victimDeVilDeMonde: did you try to create to create the folders and file?11:25
DeVilDeMondeActionParsnip2: well it wants me to put a couple of scripts inside /etc/hotplug/usb/ which seems easy enough, but there's no /hotswap inside /ect there are a few hotswaps elsewhere though...11:26
ActionParsnip2DeVilDeMonde: try logitech-applet or lomoco.11:26
ActionParsnip2!info logitech-applet11:26
ubottulogitech-applet (source: logitech-applet): Logitech mouse tweaking utility. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4~test1-0ubuntu2 (intrepid), package size 15 kB, installed size 80 kB11:26
ActionParsnip2!info lomoco11:26
ubottulomoco (source: lomoco): Logitech Mouse Control for USB mice. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0beta1+1.0-5 (intrepid), package size 15 kB, installed size 124 kB11:26
ActionParsnip2my advice is to buy more supprted hardware rather that dodgeytech who refuse to support linux11:27
DeVilDeMondeActionParsnip2: Already got the logitech-applet11:27
ActionParsnip2thats all i can suggest myself, try #ubuntu or try later, different users11:28
DeVilDeMondeActionParsnip2: Victim: thank you both heading to #ubuntu now11:29
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shadeslayerhey cant kpackage edit upgrade my installation like adept??11:33
shadeslayeras of ntow i run ap11:34
shadeslayeras of now i run apt11:34
shadeslayermention me and ill reply11:34
ActionParsnip2shadeslayer: just edit /etc/apt/sources.lst with your favourite text editor11:36
ActionParsnip2ive always used that and apt-get11:37
shadeslayeruh no i mean like adept used to notify me if upgrades were available11:37
shadeslayerisnt that available??11:37
ActionParsnip2sudo apt-get install adept-notifier11:37
ActionParsnip2might wanna check my sp11:38
shadeslayerCLI can be intimidating to first time users11:38
shadeslayer:P apt is busy right now11:38
ActionParsnip2shadeslayer: well all the guides use it in the official ducumentation11:39
shadeslayerwell ive been avoiding adept since it removed kubuntu-desktop11:39
shadeslayer><11:39
shadeslayeri got only CLI for 2 days,and i couldnt figure why11:40
shadeslayer=)11:40
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irfanHi ..11:53
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maggo79hi there. Is somebody else getting plasma crashes at startup? (kde 4.2.1; intrepid)12:01
maggo79(packages from launchpad)12:02
AzzcoI could use some help sharing sound output between my onboard sound and usb headset. Anyone got some knowledge of the alsa configuration/plugins?12:04
maggo79@Azzco: I've done this with pulseaudio+alsa. Without pulseaudio: no idea12:07
Azzcomaggo79, pulseaudio does not recognize my headset, else I'd do that. =(12:08
maggo79@Azzco: strange. have you activated the pulseaudio-alsa plugin?12:09
AzzcoHuh? Where'd I do that? :s first time I hear about it12:10
maggo79@Azzco: /etc/pulse/default.pa12:12
maggo79@Azzco: or per user: ~/.pulse/default.pa12:13
ActionParsnip2what is it with usb headsets?12:14
ActionParsnip2do no companys use the standard 3.5mm jack anymore12:14
AzzcoActionParsnip2, why one should use one or why they're so bothersome?12:14
ActionParsnip2i just see so many issues with them. i can attatch standard headphones to my soundcard output and it works12:15
Azzcolol, Actually I kind of like this headset. I just find it weird that PA recognizes them as input but not output..12:15
ActionParsnip2or even into my speaker12:15
Azzcomaggo79, module-alsa-sink can be used to specify output?12:16
ActionParsnip2Azzco: why are they so bothersome, and why dont people just use the interface thats worked for soo long12:17
maggo79@Azzco: sorry, it's too long ago that I configured pulseaudio....12:18
Azzcomaggo79, thanks anyway I think this got me on the right track. :)12:20
buahhahahas anybody else had the following error with the show desktop and lancelot launcher widget: "unable to load the widget could not find requested component", i've gotten it after the latest update and can no longer use those two (for me important) widgets12:23
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buahhahai've tried removing and adding them but with no success and other widgets do work12:25
chris-rc1hi12:35
chris-rc1it seems the last update broke a few things in relation to kde 3 apps12:38
chris-rc1can anybody still run digikam?12:38
ec8orin wich way?12:38
ec8or/exit12:40
chris-rc1kaffeine cannot find xine any more, and digicam starts and works, but it cannot find showfoto and the kipi-plugins12:41
chris-rc1hello. can sb pls tell whether digikam works for them?12:48
Kbevillea very good day to the room.........i am using a hp pavilion dv6000 laptop i am using a wireless connection to connect to my home server(WHS) but i keep losing the signal to the server can i be help????12:49
Kbevillethe wireless signal is good but can't connect to my server12:50
ActionParsnip2Kbeville: if you run lspci you will see what your wireless device is, you can websearc using that info12:51
ActionParsnip2Kbeville: i'd suggest using a wired connection to get fully updated if it is a fresh install12:52
Kbevillethanks12:52
JuJuBeeAny ideas when the 2..6.28 kernel will be in  repos?12:53
JontheEchidna.28 has been in the 9.04 repos for a while12:53
JuJuBeeIm not using 9.04, using intrepid12:54
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JuJuBee9.04 is still beta, right?12:54
bazhangalpha512:54
ActionParsnip2!jaunty12:55
ubottuJaunty Jackalope is the code for Ubuntu 9.04, due April 2009 - Lots of breakage between now and April - Please join #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support.12:55
JuJuBeeThats what I thought.  Im not experienced enough for beta let alone alpha...12:55
jialei安装KDE后老是崩溃是怎么回事亚13:03
jialei有知道的么?13:03
bazhang!cn13:04
ubottuFor Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道: #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk13:04
chris-rc1so nobody uses digikam here?13:04
bazhangwith 4.2 chris-rc1 ?13:05
chris-rc1bazhang: yes, 4.213:07
bazhangchris-rc1, thought there was something in the install notes about a conflict with digikam13:08
chris-rc1bazhang: it just doesn't find the kipi-plugins and showfoto, but doesn't complain or anything13:19
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rmrfslashAnyone here use a Dell Studio XPS 1640 w/ kubuntu?13:23
rmrfslash(pretty random question)13:23
rmrfslashor the Studio XPS 1613:23
rmrfslashas it's sometimes called13:23
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rmrfslashPretty nice machine right there.13:26
rmrfslash2.4GHz, 1066MHz FSB, 3MB Cache (probably L2), 512MB ATI, 4GB DDR313:26
rmrfslashWonder how well it will play w/ kubuntu13:26
rmrfslashkind of hesitant to get a machine that *may* work w/ linux13:27
komputesif I want to stop knetworkmanager from auto-starting for all users, which of the following files should I move (an explination of the difference between these two would be nice as well)?13:27
komputes/usr/share/autostart/knetworkmanager.desktop13:28
komputes/etc/xdg/autostart/knetworkmanager-autostart.desktop13:28
JuJuBeermrfslash: Only question I would have is the ATI support with linux.  I have not had great luck with ATI and Linux.13:28
rmrfslashbtw, kubuntu 4.2 fade in fade out boot screen is kind of cool13:28
rmrfslashThis is what I've heard too13:29
rmrfslash:-\13:29
rmrfslashwhat about envy?13:29
rmrfslashor is it right down to the driver13:29
rmrfslashlinux is a nvidia fan?13:29
JuJuBeeI have older ATI 9600 and used envy to install drivers.  Worked pretty well, but I use dual head setup and always PITA to get set up and even then never exactly as I want it.13:29
JuJuBeeYes nVidia works better.13:29
JuJuBee*typically*13:30
JuJuBeeCheck specific GPU and compat with linux.13:30
rmrfslashyeah... ive had dual display problems on every linux machine i've had regardless of nvidia13:30
rmrfslashATI Mobility Raedon HD 367013:31
JuJuBeeI just bought ASUS G71G-A2 ( dual 2.53 , 6M L2, 6G RAM, nVidia 9800M GS).13:31
rmrfslash::: googling :::13:31
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rmrfslash6M L2?13:32
rmrfslashdamn13:32
JuJuBee9800M GS not supported in 177 driver only starts with 180, but 180 not avail for kernel 2.6.2713:32
JuJuBeeYea, nice machine.  17"13:32
rmrfslashApparently, according to "opendrivers.com" Raedon 1.2 Linux supports this chipset13:33
rmrfslashRaedonHD 1.2 that is13:33
rmrfslashNothing about the "Mobility"13:34
rmrfslashnot sure if this matters13:34
rmrfslashor if the API is the same13:34
rmrfslashor whatever is used to communicate w/ the graphics card13:35
rmrfslashAccording to some dude on nabble.com, "According to my xorg.log, the raedon driver supports the following cards"13:36
rmrfslashincluding the ATI Mobility 367013:37
rmrfslashHD13:37
rmrfslashLooks like I should be in business w/ this laptop13:37
rmrfslashIS this the typical sequence of events for buying a laptop?13:38
rmrfslashChecking every component for compatibility?13:38
bazhangrmrfslash, just wireless and graphics card mostly13:39
bazhangrmrfslash, most every thing works very very well ootb13:40
rmrfslash"oobt"13:40
bazhangout of the box13:40
rmrfslash?13:40
rmrfslashoh ook13:41
rmrfslash"Order Submitted"13:41
rmrfslash:)13:41
bazhangie upon first install, no config13:41
edericohello, I run KDE 4.2 on Kubuntu 8.10, I have a problem with my DVD-RW drive, it is not reading any CDs or DVDs or rarely does so, I didn't find much on the problem searching online but it seems it is some problem with KDE or Kubuntu, can anyone help?13:42
rmrfslashI am not a proud owner of a Dell XPS 164013:42
rmrfslashand I will be installing kubuntu13:42
rmrfslashas soon as it arrives13:42
rmrfslashFirst time I've owned a PC in like 5-6 years13:43
rmrfslashbeen using a Mac13:43
* RurouniJones hisses13:44
rmrfslashHey now.13:44
rmrfslashOS X is cool13:44
RurouniJonesWell, not really, as long as you were using it for the right reasons :p13:44
rmrfslashyou have to admit13:44
ghostcubeosx is bsd13:44
bluecodewhen will there be KDE 4.2.1 packages for kubuntu?13:44
ghostcubewith chains13:44
rmrfslashWell, just cuz my old supervisor was a Mac freak13:44
rmrfslashso I got a PowerBook G413:44
rmrfslashServed me well13:44
rmrfslashtoo much $$ tho13:45
rmrfslashMy new place of employment is all linux13:45
chris-rc1does anybody have digikam for kde4 running in intrepid?13:47
tuxichris-rc1: are you compiling it yourself?13:51
chris-rc1tuxi: no, i just cannot use digikam for kde3 in intrepid any more, so i thought i could install the rc for digikam 0.1013:56
BluesKajhiyas13:58
tuxiI'm not a digikam user, so I haven't worked on trying to sort it out -- the version in the repos I'm using appears to conflict with some of the libraries I'm using13:58
tuxihey BluesKaj13:58
BluesKajtuxi .  recommend reinstalling digikam with synaptic or attitude ..they bring the dependencies along with the app in a much more comprehensive and complete manner14:06
BluesKajerr aptitude , tuxi14:07
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Exilantis there any way to get media:/ back in kde4 ?14:08
BluesKajExilant , look in dolphin for volume (ntfs) , or look for the devices plugged in icon14:10
Exilantthe device manager seems to dislike encrypted partitions14:11
Exilantor internal partitions not mounted14:11
BluesKajExilant , yeah i remember some complaining about hidden encrypted drives ..makes sense tho :)14:13
Exilantdolphin is a bit better, shows external encrypted partions, no internal ones though14:14
Exilantbut fails to moun(that might be jauntys alphaness)14:14
BluesKajmount -t iso9660 myimage.iso /mnt/device -o loop14:15
BluesKajoh jauny , then goto #kubuntu+114:15
BluesKajjuanty14:16
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DeVilDeMondeanybody home?14:44
vbgunzanybody know how to get really verbose messages on suspend/resume? I am currently looking at pretty much black screens suspending or resuming :/14:45
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DeVilDeMondeHow do i get the fire effect to work in compiz when i close a window?14:51
genii-aroundvbgunz: Not sure there's a way to increase verbosity of the shell scripts ... you may want to look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3066404 for tips on suspend/resume/hibernation debugging in other ways though14:53
DeVilDeMondeNevermind i got it14:55
fabio_hi14:56
fabio_can't get strigi to start as a service for using it with nepomuk14:56
fabio_someone can help?14:56
fabio_someone listening?14:58
DeVilDeMondefabio_: I don't know that much about linux or ubuntu yet, sorry i can't help you14:58
fabio_Thankyou Devil14:59
DeVilDeMondei'm still trying to figure out how to use compiz themes LOL14:59
fabio_are you using kubuntu?14:59
DeVilDeMondeyes i am15:00
fabio_Devil...15:00
DeVilDeMonde8.1015:00
fabio_wich version?15:00
fabio_ok...15:00
DeVilDeMondeI knew that was coming ;)15:00
fabio_tried kwin compositing?15:00
DeVilDeMondeNo idea what that is15:00
fabio_system setting-> Desktop, and check enable desktop effects15:01
InfernoLinuxhow do i get onto irc.efnet.org im not familiar with konversation or IRC protocol15:01
fabio_did you find it?15:01
DeVilDeMondeno such entry in system15:01
DeVilDeMondehowever when right clicking on desktop under visual effects i have extra checked15:02
fabio_have yu kde4?15:02
fabio_od kde 3.515:03
DeVilDeMonde4:4.1.4 it seems15:03
fabio_ok...15:03
DeVilDeMondehad to look at synaptic to tell you that15:04
DeVilDeMondeLOL15:04
fabio_in the k-menu should be an icon: system settings15:04
fabio_find it15:04
DeVilDeMondefound it!15:05
fabio_ok: in Look&feel you should have Desktop15:05
DeVilDeMondeok clicked15:05
fabio_click on it15:05
* DeVilDeMonde nods and is looking at that now15:06
fabio_Enable desktop effects15:06
DeVilDeMondechecked already15:06
fabio_try ALT+TAB what happens?15:07
DeVilDeMondein fact under that improved windows management it goes through open applications15:07
DeVilDeMondesoory typed one thing and stopped when you asked a question15:07
DeVilDeMondeit cycles through open applications.15:07
fabio_ok...seems that compositing works...wich effect do you desider?15:07
fabio_cube shere, snow falling..magic lamp wobbling windows?15:08
DeVilDeMondeI have this emerald theme called fire dragon. I'd like that theme enabled15:08
DeVilDeMondeBut no idea how to enable it15:08
fabio_ah ok...15:08
fabio_well hardware and drivers works well...15:08
fabio_so i think ou have to google a bit15:09
DeVilDeMondeyeah got the burn effect enabled on window close, this theme would go well with it.15:09
fabio_never used compiz and such 3rd-party things.15:09
DeVilDeMondeAlready got the theme installed even... just have to figure out how to enable it15:09
FrauHansenit there no emerald-theme-manager anymore?15:10
DeVilDeMondeit's up, but i see no way to apply the theme15:10
DeVilDeMondedouble clicking does nothing15:10
fabio_try : http://www.kde-forum.org/artikel/18451/kde4-compiz-fusion.html15:10
DeVilDeMondeEmerald themer 0.7.215:10
fabio_can't help you more than this.15:11
larsaamEnjoy your Kubuntu weekend! Bye!15:11
DeVilDeMondehmm it might require a log-out/in eh? NP brb15:11
fabio_well..i was asking: someone got strigi with nepomuk working?15:12
DeVilDeMondeDoh, no dice15:13
fabio_:-(15:13
DeVilDeMondeYeah :(15:13
fabio_well15:14
fabio_I am leaving now15:14
fabio_bye15:14
DeVilDeMondefabio_: ok good luck with your problem, thanks for trying to help15:14
TakahaniHi !15:16
TakahaniSince few days (maybe recent updates), plasma hang randomly, and i need to wait around 10 seconds before any action on the taskbar really occurs15:17
Takahanikubuntu 8.10 64 bits, kde 4.2 from backport15:17
Takahaniany idea ? Is there some log file for plasma action ?15:18
Takahanibecause it isn't a process eating the cpu nor than a disk access15:18
Takahaniit just wait for something tahtis not happening15:19
Takahaniok, nevermind, just hop jaunty won't have this kind of behavior15:22
Takahanihope15:22
kvhSomehow I borked konqueror and now it won't start; I tried reinstalling, any ideas? findServiceByDesktopPath: searchproviders/.desktop not found15:24
genii-aroundkvh: Try removing it's rc file in ~/.kde/share/config15:26
kvhgenii-around: nope, didn't work15:29
draik_Hello everybody!15:29
kvhI've removed the entire .kde and rebooted... no luck15:29
genii-aroundkvh: You could try remove with purge then reinstall (of konq)15:30
jimdb_Anyone in here?15:35
genii-aroundjimdb_: Lots. How many are awake is another matter15:35
draik_I'm awake :)15:36
draik_Hello drostie!15:36
hn8456hi15:37
hn8456how to disable all Kwin effect in kde 4.1 :) ?15:37
kvhgenii-around: nope... I wonder what I did... most other KDE apps work15:37
draik_hn8456: Do you mean the Desktop Effects?15:38
hn8456draik_: yes15:38
draik_hn8456: K Menu > System Settings > Desktop > Desktop Effects15:39
jimdb_In kde 4.2, something happens while copying files or downloading files just about anything having to do with writing file. What happens is there is a big ring that flashes in the center of the screen. This ting is made up of smaller white circles. I would like to turn it off. Is there a way to turn it off?15:39
edinhooi15:39
draik_jimdb_: That's the loading image.15:39
edinhoedinhoo3231@hotmail.com15:40
hn8456draik_: thank you very much ! :)15:40
jimdb_It flashes all the time. It is annoying15:40
draik_hn8456: No problem.15:40
draik_jimdb_: Then you can use CLI15:40
edinhooi galera15:40
FrauHansenjimdb_: do you have folderview as desktop-containment?15:41
edinhooi15:41
lovrehi all15:41
lovrehow do i edit /etc/network/interfaces to use custom DNS server?15:41
jimdb_LOL no way. It isn't going to happen that way. There has to be a way to turn it off.  It also happens when downloading with firefox15:41
jimdb_I have folder view15:42
edinhocomo uszar webcam nesse chat15:42
loki_hi all15:43
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draik_lovre: I was looking online for your inquiry and I came across a site that someone says they did it on Ubuntu and are trying to do it on RedHat. Too bad they didn't mention anything on how they did it exactly.15:46
draik_Have you had any luck with http://www.google.com/linux ?15:47
edinhodriver para webcam15:48
edinhonoteship15:48
edinho5 led15:48
edinhozoom15:48
edinhousb15:48
Slartibartfastedinho: maybe you have noticed it, but people here talk english ....15:48
draik_!br | edinho15:49
ubottuedinho: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.15:49
edinho1.1ok15:49
edinhook15:49
lovredraik_: thank you for looking, i tried but its all still messed up in my head, so i cant figure it all out15:49
draik_lovre: I know I've seen something once in the past and that's how I stumbled across OpenDNS, but I'm not sure about where I saw it.15:50
draik_Best of luck though.15:50
lovredraik_: thanks. .im gonna  need it lol :D15:51
ubuntu_help15:53
xanax`hello15:53
xanax`is there a repository for ubuntu that offers to install koffice 2.0 beta 7 ?15:53
ubuntu_i just rmoed kde from my ubuntu installation and i cannot get back into gdm15:54
lovreubuntu_: reinstall ubuntu-desktop??15:56
ubuntu_and loose all my files?15:56
lovreubuntu_: why would you loose all your files, its just a desktop manager library...15:57
lovrea package if you will15:57
lovreubuntu_: i dont mean reinstall ubuntu (OS), i just mean ubuntu-desktop package15:58
ubuntu_how do i do that bcos i can't get into the graphic interface only command line15:59
lovreubuntu_: do you have internet access?16:00
Elonedo it in commandline >.> ~$ sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop16:00
ubuntu_i am using a wireless lan , can i do that?16:01
lovreyou should be able..16:02
Elonethen he need to put wireless up in commandline, i don't think ubuntu boot with wlan up16:03
ubuntu_ok thanks. i will have to try that.16:03
lovresudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop16:04
ubuntu_about getting wireless up16:04
ubuntu_how do i do thwt16:04
Elone!iwconfig16:04
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about iwconfig16:04
Eloneblah ~16:04
Eloneyou need to use iwconfig16:05
Elonetry iwconfig --help you will see the options16:05
ubuntu_then connect to my wireless network?16:05
Eloneya16:06
Eloneubuntu_, http://www.newlinuxuser.com/howto-use-iwconfig/ check that out16:06
ubuntu_ok thanks.16:07
draik_I'm running foremost right now from the img I created from the 500GB HDD. Is there a better method than this?16:09
chris-rc1i have compiled digikam 0.10 from the svn repo but i cannot find an executable in /opt/kde4. where is it?16:10
ubuntu__thanks to all who responded to my queries. see u soon16:12
lovreubuntu_: good luck16:13
Elonehmmm is there any termial based irc client ?16:14
genii-aroundElone: Quite a few. irssi comes to mind first however16:14
Eloneso irssi  ^^ thanks ~ goo to know might be hardy someday ;p16:15
genii-aroundElone: Quite a few people use irssi with screen so they can keep connecting to the same session by ssh wherever they are16:16
draik_This is slightly off-topic and I apologize, but I want to know... Can someone recommend a book on PHP, Ruby on Rails and MySQL?16:19
Elonegenii-around, i see16:19
Elonedraik_, book for dummy? or O'Relly? ;p idk16:20
draik_I really like O'Reilly's work.16:21
Elonedraik_, i think that they have everything XD16:21
draik_OK. I just want something that will give me the ins and outs of the aforementioned topics16:21
draik_Thanks Elone16:21
genii-aroundAny boks by Oreilly or Wrox are usually good16:22
genii-around*books16:22
draik_I have a few O'Reilly books, but didn't know if there was something more with more details and such. Not that O'Reilly doesn't provide it, just want to know my options.16:25
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J_A_Xerm, what the hell, just upgraded xulrunner and firefox, now firefox and konq won't boot up16:45
J_A_Xgreat16:45
J_A_Xanyone know how to revert back an upgrade?16:45
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valgaavyou may have the old packade in /var/apt/cache/16:46
valgaavtry installing it out of there16:46
Tm_TJ_A_X: are you using KDE 4.2 from ppa ?16:46
pawleeqhi what should i do to installa kde4.2.1 ?16:48
Tm_Tpawleeq: wait until it's announced in kubuntu.org16:48
Tm_Tpawleeq: and then read announcement carefully16:48
J_A_Xtm_t: ya16:49
J_A_Xit runs in safe-mode16:49
Tm_TJ_A_X: ppa is not for "normal users"16:49
J_A_Xbut when i try to run it normally, it quits right of the bat16:49
Tm_TJ_A_X: kubuntu-experimental is for developers testing and so on, so it's known to get breakages16:50
J_A_Xgood point, but there was a reason why I went with it...16:50
J_A_Xanywho, I'll remove it from the list, but is there a way to revert back the last upgrade?16:50
Tm_TJ_A_X: was, though, still it was and is unstable16:50
Tm_TJ_A_X: no reasonable way, nor reason in firefox case16:51
Tm_TJ_A_X: anyway, KDE 4.2 is in backports16:51
pawleeqTm_T: well, I switched to kde on my work computer, where I normally use gnome and 4.2.1 was there, so I thought it has been osfficily released16:51
Tm_Tpawleeq: jaunty?16:51
J_A_Xwell, I could remove xulrunner, remove ppa then reinstall right?16:51
pawleeqTm_T: intrp16:51
Tm_TJ_A_X: xulrunner is not from ppa (:16:51
J_A_Xwhen what came from ppa that might crash firefox and konq16:52
Tm_Tpawleeq: so you have some source providing 4.2.1, did you check kubuntu.org announcements?16:52
J_A_Xthen*16:52
Tm_TJ_A_X: firefox crash is prolly not from ppa16:52
Tm_TJ_A_X: but Konqueror was in crashy state earlier today16:52
J_A_Xhum...16:53
J_A_Xso, any suggestions then?16:53
Tm_TJ_A_X: for firefox, no idea, for Konqueror yes, upgrade from ppa or remove ppa and packages installed from there and then reinstall them from backports16:54
pawleeqTm_T: I checked them, the strange thing is, the sources are the same on both machines16:54
ItaciousHey all, just a quick question: How do I set up IRC in Kopete? (I'm using Pidgin right now) I don't see IRC in the account types?16:55
J_A_XTm_T: and how would I do that?>16:56
Tm_TJ_A_X: sorry, you have to ask from someone else16:56
Tm_TItacious: it's still unstable in Kopete, so doesn't exist in Kubuntu16:56
ibuffyhttp://dpaste.com/8003/ , is there something wrong with my repository list? because i updated with the notification icon in the system tray and now my plasmoids aren't working16:56
Itacious:(16:56
ItaciousThanks anyway.16:57
ibuffywell... the notes plasmoid and the show desktop16:57
ibuffyi tryed apt-get install kdeplasmoids and of course have unmet dependencies: kdeplasmoids: Depends: kdeplasma-addons but it is not going to be installed16:58
chris-rc1ibuffy: are you in intrepid with kde 4.2?16:59
ibuffychris-rc1: yes16:59
chris-rc1ibuffy: the package name for plasmoids has changed since 4.1, i believe17:05
chris-rc1ibuffy: the package name for plasmoids has changed since 4.1, i believe17:05
chris-rc1ibuffy: it's now kdeplasma-addons17:05
ibuffydo i need: deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ intrepid-proposed restricted main multiverse universe17:05
Tm_Tibuffy: proposed ones are "under testing" I believe, so if you don't like to be tester...17:06
ibuffynot right now17:07
ibuffyi just think some of these repos contradict each other, of course i don't know enough about apt17:07
chris-rc1ibuffy: no, you don't17:09
ibuffychris-rc1: lol, that is vague. what are you saying? i don't know much about apt or what?17:10
chris-rc1ibuffy: what you need is the ppa repos for kde 4.2. i wouldn't recommend proposed. these packages will be in backports later, i think (not sure though)17:12
chris-rc1ibuffy: the 'no, you don't' comment referred to 'do i need this archive'17:12
ibuffyokay, just making sure :)17:13
chris-rc1do sudo apt-get install kdeplasma-addons17:13
chris-rc1or use adept/synaptic17:13
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ibuffyhttp://dpaste.com/8021/17:14
ibuffyi did install kdeplasma-addons earlier though right after mentioning the problem17:17
ibuffyand the plasmoids are back17:17
draik_What is a good data recovery tool within Linux? I had a 500GB HDD that had 350GB for Linux. I did a quick format to NTFS and I want to know how to get it back.17:17
ibuffyso why won't kdeplasmoids install?17:17
chris-rc1ibuffy: so everything okay now?17:17
chris-rc1ibuffy: why do you want kdeplasmoids?17:18
ibuffyit's listed, why not17:18
ibuffymore plasmoids can't hurt17:18
gorgonizeribuffy: are you on kde 4.2?  as kdeplasmoids is 4.1.x :)17:19
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chris-rc1 this is really disturbing. i've just installed digikam and kipi-plugins from the svn repos and digikam cannot find kipi-plugins. just like when i use the kde3 version of digikam17:19
chris-rc1this is what i'm saying. kdeplasma-addons replaces kdeplasmoids17:19
ibuffygorgonizer: i am indeed on 4.2 ...i've suspected that one of the repositories is wrong.17:19
chris-rc1this is just a leftover from 4.1. don't worry17:20
gorgonizeribuffy: as chris-rc1 states, kdeplasmoids is the name of the package for 4.1.x, kdeplasma-addons replaces it in 4.2.x17:20
ibuffywhy is it still there?17:20
chris-rc1not a technical question, so too hard too handle :-)17:21
chris-rc1to17:21
gorgonizeras 4.1.x is still in the main kubuntu repos.. for people who didn't want to upgrade to 4.2 :)17:21
ibuffywho wouldn't want to upgrade17:21
ibuffyit was mostly unstable for me and missing a lot17:21
ibuffyanywho17:21
gorgonizeribuffy: that is a question I cannot answer17:22
ibuffyhehe17:22
ibuffyit was rhetorical17:22
chris-rc1can anybody tell me if digikam-kde4 works for them on intrepid?17:22
gorgonizeroh.. apologies :)17:22
ibuffynp :)17:22
ibuffyokay then, chris-rc1, Tm_T, gorgonizer, thank you all17:23
RPSHello Guys, I'm DL'ing the KDE desktop and installing it for the 1st time and ...well I'm not sure wherew to start to tell the truth.17:23
ExilantRPS: kde 4 is a mess, yes17:24
RPSI'm a Ubuntu 8.10 user17:24
BouRPS: not your fault17:24
RPSoh boy ...are you trying to scare me? ;)17:24
Exilantin version 4.2 (jaunty) it's almost usable17:24
RPSExilant, kde?17:24
Exilantyes17:25
gorgonizerI find it useable (4.2.1) on Intrepid :)17:25
Boume too17:25
RPSSo I take it that it's a bit messy then17:25
BouRPS: no17:25
BouRPS: but different from KDE3 for sure17:25
* RPS wonders what he is getting into17:25
BouRPS: that's why KDE 4.2 is "The Answer" ;p17:26
Exilantwell, for me it's really almost usable, some things are really cool, some things are just arghh17:26
gorgonizerRPS: it is not as organised as KDE 3.5, but after some investigation it becomes easier :)17:26
RPSI'm a complete newbie to kde ...I'm getting nervous17:26
Bouwhy?17:26
Exilantrps, just go with the flow, kde doesn't bite17:27
Bouyou should be excited, not nervous :-)17:27
RPSI have the configure KDM blue screen looming in my terminal as we speak17:27
gorgonizerno need to feel nervous.. there are always people willing to help.. get stuck in ;)17:27
RPSso its asking me to choose between gdm and kdm17:29
RPSIf I choose kdm will it put me in the kde environment immediately?17:30
RPSwell it does say default, so this is where I'm deciding what will be the default then?17:31
Bousounds like yes17:31
Boubut anyway you can always switch at login step between gdm or kdm17:32
RPSI chose gdm17:32
Bouthen at login step you will have to choose kdm if you want to see KDE17:32
RPSI'm sure I'm worried about next to nothing ....this is only a gui after all17:32
ExilantRPS: it's just the login screen17:33
luigica2003ciao17:33
luigica2003!list17:33
ubottuHi! I'm #kubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots17:33
Exilantyou can choose to start a kde or gnome session in both kdm and gdm17:33
Exilant(or xdm)17:33
RPSwell my terminal window is in a calm state again ...do I just log out and back in to get into the kde eniv.?17:34
Exilantyou log out, in gdm you search for some session type dropdown or so, and choose kde17:35
Exilantor kwin --replace, if you just want to get a look at kde-like windows :)17:36
RPSI do see a lot of new programs listed in my applications area17:36
RPSkwin?17:36
RPSso I can get a look without logging out then?17:36
Exilantkde's window manager17:36
Exilantwell, won't give you much of kde17:37
Exilantand might crash17:37
RPSI'll just log out and give it a whirl17:37
Exilantto get it full, you'll have to log out17:37
arnonhello17:38
arnonim using konversation client17:38
RPSI'll be back shortly with my impressions17:38
arnonand when im trying to connect to quakenet17:38
arnonthe server says i have trojan17:38
arnonis it because of the client?\17:39
RPSwell, I logged out and I saw no option to log back in under kde, so I then I rebooted the pc and it showed the kubuntu splash screen, but booted right back into ubuntu17:45
winterzI somehow nuked my xorg.conf.  is there a tool to help me probe my hardware and regenerate the file?17:46
gorgonizerRPS: on the gdm/kdm screen, there should be an option called Menu, within which there will be a Session option, from which you can select which environment to boot into (I think)17:46
RPSgdm/kdm ...where do I find that?17:46
RPSI've been digging around looking for the clues17:47
failersRPS /etc/init.d/kdm17:47
failersif thats the one you meant17:47
failersoh sorry didnt read previus texts17:48
failersRPS forget what i said17:48
RPSI thought I would have an option at login17:48
failers^^17:48
Exilantrps, in gdm, you should be able to start kde17:48
Exilantotherwise, if you want to change to using kdm, try dpkg-reconfigure kdm/gdm17:49
RPSso I hear, but I've not unlocked the secret yet. .lol17:49
Exilant:)17:49
cjaeOk the computer in question had an onboard ati graphics installed and I don't believe that the ati fglrx driver was installed. Now the computer has a nvidia 7400 geforce card pci-e in it but kde window manager freezes upon login, here are the steps ive done so far17:50
RPSI thought it was as simple as making a choice at boot up17:50
cjaerecovery mode xfix, I think this issues the sudo dpkg --reconfigure -xserver-xorg?17:51
cjaethen I took it to the console and stopped kdm17:51
trappistcjae: you got an extra hyphen in there17:52
cjaetrappist: used recovery mode17:52
cjaesudo dpkg --configure -a17:52
cjaesudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade17:53
cjaesudo apt-get --reinstall install kde-window-manager17:53
tony403i have no write access on my linux partition when booting. is there a way to fix this?17:53
cjaesudo apt-get -f install17:53
cjaeand kwin still freezes after login17:54
cjaeso does mean that the ati driver could be loading and causing issue17:54
cjaeor that the onboard is not shut offf in the bios properly17:55
cjaethis is kubuntu 8.10 btw17:58
RPSgorgonizer, where do I find the gdm/kdm screen?18:02
gorgonizerthe login screen..18:03
gorgonizeron kdm the menu is in the bottom right hand corner.. I have no idea where it would be on gdm..18:04
Exilantwhere you type in your password and such18:04
tony403anyone know the default root password?18:04
Exilanttony403: there is none18:04
RPSlike the screen to dual boot ...where I can chose ubuntu or XP?18:04
tony403i can't write to my linux partition so it's prompting for a root password. wtfsck?18:05
shadeslayergorgonizer: its in the left corner in GDM18:05
RPSI glanced over it and I didn't see kubuntu listed, but I may have missed it18:05
Exilanttony403: ubuntu uses sudo. try your own password18:05
shadeslayerpress F1018:05
shadeslayerand then change session18:05
gorgonizershadeslayer: cheers for the info :)18:06
shadeslayer:)18:06
shadeslayernp18:06
RPSdang no luck with f1018:06
shadeslayerRPS: for w??18:07
shadeslayer*what??18:07
RPSsorry I thought you were speaking to me18:07
shadeslayerRPS: and ypu want to do what??18:07
shadeslayer*o18:07
RPSboot into kde18:07
shadeslayerand you have GDM??18:07
RPSit showed kubuntu while the pc was booting, but went straight into ubuntu18:08
shadeslayeroh18:08
shadeslayeryou havent set  kubuntu to default18:08
shadeslayer><18:08
RPSyes I chose gdm when I was installing the kde desktop envir18:08
shadeslayerok logout18:08
Exilantrps, do you have autologin or so enabled?18:08
RPSI thought I could chose at login18:08
shadeslayeryes you can18:09
shadeslayerXD18:09
RPSwell this pc dual boots XP18:09
shadeslayerthat sounds familiar18:09
shadeslayer" yes you can "18:09
RPSso it brings up a window to chose xp or ubuntu18:09
komputesHow can I turn off knetworkmanager for all users?18:09
shadeslayerRPS: and then you reach the login screen if you choose ubuntu18:09
shadeslayerright??18:09
RPSNope ...it just boots right into ubuntu if I chose it at the dual boot screen18:10
Exilantrps, that with xp/buntu is grub.  kdm/gdm is the program that starts the x server (graphical ui)18:10
shadeslayeroh auto login is enabled18:10
shadeslayerExilant: yeah its auto login18:10
RPSI am clay ...mold me18:10
shadeslayerlol18:11
shadeslayerok open  the login prefrences window18:11
shadeslayersys>admn>login18:11
shadeslayerdone??18:12
RPSyeah18:12
shadeslayergo to the security tab18:12
shadeslayerdisable automatic login18:12
RPSthat was too simple ...I swear I'm not an idiot ...I just play one on irc18:13
shadeslayerthen logout press F10 and select your session i.e KDE or GNOME18:13
shadeslayerlol18:13
shadeslayertry it18:13
shadeslayerlinux is not hard18:13
nacerhi18:14
shadeslayer!hi | nacer18:14
ubottunacer: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!18:14
shadeslayerRPS: success??18:14
RPS.lmao ...ubuntu just doesn;t want to go away18:15
shadeslayerhaha18:15
RPSI tried hiting F10 multiple times18:15
shadeslayerwell did you get to the login screen??18:15
RPSit just ignored me18:15
shadeslayer:O18:15
shadeslayerwell how about switching to KDM??18:15
RPSwhere it asked for my user name?18:15
shadeslayeryeah18:15
RPSI'll try it one more time18:16
RPShang tight18:16
RPSHouston, this isn't Kansas anymore18:19
shadeslayerRPS: any luck??18:19
shadeslayer:P18:19
RPS.LOL I was lost18:19
RPSyes18:19
shadeslayerwhat happened??18:19
RPSI was like ...okkkkk where do I get started18:19
shadeslayerlast time18:19
RPSI'm in kde18:19
shadeslayeryayy18:19
shadeslayeri mean where did you get lost??18:19
RPSI'm just saying I was L O S T lost18:19
nacerdam kde4.2 crash from today update i think18:20
nacerplasma crash18:20
shadeslayerme too18:20
RPSwell nothing looked familiar18:20
shadeslayeronce only tho18:20
shadeslayermhmm18:20
RPSwell I'm here ....now what? .lol18:20
shadeslayerhaha18:20
shadeslayer:P18:20
shadeslayerKDE runs a bit hot on my notebook18:20
RPSis there any tricks to try out18:21
shadeslayeri use XFCE and GNOME more often18:21
shadeslayerto try out what??18:21
RPSwell where is the minimize button on windows?18:22
nacerhow can i remove plasmoid from kde init ?18:22
RPSit's like being on mars18:22
fosco_nacer, take a look on the ~/.kde/autostart folder18:22
nacerfosco_: nothing here18:22
shadeslayerRPS: oh youre comparing linux to win XD18:22
XenThraLwhats the difference between the DVD and the CD images? whats extra on the DVD?18:23
RPS.omg its a little like Vista ....DANGER DANGER18:23
shadeslayerno its not18:23
shadeslayerXD18:23
shadeslayerenable desktop effects18:23
shadeslayer:P18:23
* shadeslayer twirls the cube18:24
shadeslayer:)18:24
nacerlaradji@PtiPanda:~/.kde/share/config$ rm plasmarc18:24
nacerlaradji@PtiPanda:~/.kde/share/config$ rm plasma-appletsrc18:24
nacerresolv my pb18:24
RPSthat window that popped up from clicking on the bottom left tab looks a lot like vista18:24
shadeslayeroh that18:24
shadeslayeryeah18:24
shadeslayerpress Ctrl+F11 and twirl your cube18:25
RPSsystem settings>general>appearance?18:25
shadeslayer><18:25
shadeslayeri think18:25
shadeslayertheres a checkbox18:25
shadeslayer[] Enable desktop effects18:25
RPS4 desktops I assume18:27
RPSis there a channel that deals with these effects?18:29
PiciRPS: #compiz-fusion18:29
RPShuh, so they handle this too then?18:30
RPSI'm idling in there as we speak18:30
shadeslayer#kde18:30
shadeslayerall about kde18:30
shadeslayer:P18:30
shadeslayertwirl the cube twirl the cube18:31
Picishadeslayer: stop.18:31
shadeslayerok18:31
RPSis there an easy way to get away from this hideous sky blue nightmare that is the default?18:31
* shadeslayer sulks18:31
shadeslayerRPS: kde-look.org18:31
* RPS just figured out he may have offended someone else's favorite theme18:32
RPSsorry18:33
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kevin__heey18:41
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RizRhey guys just switched to kde (kubuntu) after a 2 yrs affair with gnome. things aren't where they used to be in kde 3.5 :-)18:42
failers:)18:42
kevin__lol18:42
RizRfirstly, in current version the default setup of panel is sorta floating. Meaning there is no empty space on the panel.18:42
RizRIf I  put less stuff things like tray get resized to occupy empty space18:43
RizRdo I make sense? if yes then how to get rid of this setting and switch to the usual panel behaviour that leaves empty space if there are less items than the space18:44
RizRlet me know if I dont :)18:44
failersRizR i dont quite get what you mean but this is how my desktop looks like http://bayimg.com/jaNPoaABo18:45
RizRok18:45
RizRfailers: I'm not able to get the "empty space" you've between firefox icon and tray18:46
failersoh18:46
RizRfailers: my tray and clock resize to occupy all available space18:46
failersah ok18:46
[kabotage]cant alt tab after typing compiz on konsole. :(18:46
failerstest add the activity handler18:46
failersor what the widget is called in english18:46
wallshotis anybody familiar with jaunty system not booting up after attempting to suspend to disk?18:47
failersi got my kubuntu in swedish but its something with activity handler :P right click on the panel and panel options -> add widget18:47
wallshotwhen it boots up, a couple lines scroll by and it goes to a blank screen with flashing cursor.  further attempts to reboot result in same thing.  is there any way i can clean up what was done with suspend to disk so the system boots normally?18:48
RizRhm18:49
RizRactivity bar?18:50
failersmight be yes18:50
RizRis that a widget? activity handler?18:50
failersactivity bar might be the one18:50
RizRwhat does it do?18:50
failersif its the one it should be it is that space you want and it shows all windows you got up and running18:51
RizRah18:51
RizRthats the thing :) I've got dual-head and i usually list all windows on panel on one monitor and icons and tray on the other one18:51
RizRthe thing you mean is task manager18:53
failersye ok18:53
RizRis there any free space widget available?18:54
RizRI see that system tray is the main culprit. if I add it on an empty panel it occupies it without any option to resize it18:55
AlexZionHi everyone , is the Alt button same as Meta button in Kubuntu ?18:57
geniiAlexZion: No, Alt is Alt and Meta is the "Windows" key18:58
silleexperiencing an annoyance. |Previously running programs start up  automatically after a reboot.  I'm probably a little dense, but is there a system setting that will control this feature?s18:59
AlexZionok , should I restart after change between Alt and Meta on the setting panel of windows bheavoir ?18:59
AlexZionbecause otherwise , doesn't look to works ....19:00
AlexZionI change in system settings/windows bhevoir /window action , the Alt option , with Meta option , but it's still the same19:07
AlexZionI mean I get the sameasbefore by pushing Alt , and nothingusing Meta ...19:08
RPSGuys it turns out that when i installed KDE a little while ago I got the old version. What command line should use to get 4.2?19:12
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J_A_Xcan anyone of you guys help me with my audio?  I'm going with alsa and it's freaking killing me.  It keeps not working between audacious and \flash player19:13
J_A_Xlike if the whole card locks up19:13
AlexZionI got it , it was a compiz settings ...19:14
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RPSI guess everyone is at breakfast lunch or dinner ...depends on the part of the globe you might be on19:21
Laeborg!jbod19:25
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about jbod19:25
Laeborghmm. can i setup a jbod under install?19:25
Laeborg!lvm19:26
ubottuTips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO19:26
ExilantRPS: you'd have to use some backport19:27
Exilantor jaunty :)19:27
RPSpardon me I was away19:34
RPSHmmm and the plot thickens19:34
amgarchIn9if flash has no sound where to look for it?19:35
RPSExilant, is it worth the hassle or should I just wait?19:35
Exilantdunno, gave up on 4.1 pretty quick, and used 3.5 in the meantime19:36
Exilantbut after hearing aarons speech at the release party of 4.2, i'm giving it a try19:37
RPSman it kills me when something DL's and it doesn't give you an option on where it puts it19:37
RPSI DL'ed a new theme for KDE and it never gave me a chance to pick where it went19:37
Exilantthey are hidden somewhere in .kde19:39
RPSIt's still like walking on Mars19:39
Exilanti guess it's ok as long as kde knows where they are, without kde you can't really use them anyway19:40
RPSI was getting help earlier and almost panicked when I I went to click on the terminal and it wasn;t there19:40
RPSIt was funny19:40
RPSis there a divide between ubuntu and kubuntu to the point where someone over on the ubuntu channel would get bent out of shape if I asked for help getting 4.2?19:42
failersRPS19:42
RPSits more about the correct command than the actual information itself19:42
RPSyes?19:42
failerswait just checking name fast19:42
failers:P19:42
failersbah cant remember but on kubuntu.org is a guide for 4.219:43
failerswait il give you it19:43
failershttp://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.219:43
failersthere is guide how to get it19:43
RPSah ha19:44
drostieIt isn't a great guide.19:44
failerswhy not19:44
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RPSit seems odd to me that kde has its own web browser19:46
failersit does Oo19:46
drostiefailers: because people who install from the experimental ppa sometimes have to run a dpkg reconfigure, or don't understand exactly what "uninstalling plasmoids" entails, etc.19:47
failersyes but 4.2 arent meant to be installed for those users :P19:47
RPSthat part was making me tilt my head a little ...I'll admit it19:47
drostieI've seen a lot of people in #kubuntu who've borked their setups via the experimental ppa. It's not the most common thing, but it happens often enough.19:47
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failersbeginners that doesnt know what they are doing should keep to the safe ppa's :P and not the experimentals19:48
RPSI have a couple of experimental things installed, but I had help doing it since I knew I could create havoc19:50
amgarchIn9so there is no sound in flashplugin unless I manually start "pulseaudio". Why so?19:55
amgarchIn9this kde 4.219:56
valgaavworks for me in jaunty19:59
valgaavand was working just fine in intrepid with kde 4.2 when I used it19:59
valgaavI'm on 64bit though19:59
RizRHi, I'm running kde4 (kdebase-bin version is 4:4.2.0-0ubuntu1~intrepid1) on kubuntu.20:04
RizRIt's got a horrible dependency issue with several of kde packages20:04
RizRis this a known thing?20:05
RizRplease see an example here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/127409/20:06
scordyciao20:06
RizRwhen i start with downgrades it just messes the whole thing up (never finishes)20:07
amgarchIn9RizR: I understood plasmoind are yet not compatible with libplasma3, uninstall them, or aptitude dist-upgrade20:07
amgarchIn9*plasmoids20:07
m_tadeuRizR: I think that's mainly due to incompatibility between libplasma2 and libplasma3...they don't seem to live both in the same system20:08
SandGorgonis qt4.5 part of the upgrade to KDE 4.2.120:08
RizRamgarchIn9: its just one example :-) I tried compiz-kde as well.20:08
RizRm_tadeu: I didn't chose any by selection :-) How to make sure one stays? basically when I install kde they both install automatically with something or other20:09
RizRwhats the way out of it with having a working system?20:10
RizRAny name of packages that I install and remove everything else?20:10
m_tadeuRizR: since you're on kde4.2, try to get rid of everything that uses libplasma220:10
m_tadeuRizR: the only way to be sure right now is to jump to jaunty, I gues....since intrepid with kde4.2.x is quite a misc between 2 kde versions20:12
RizRm_tadeu: My hands are already getting itchy about the dist-upgrade :-) Only thing holding back is that it's still in alpha stage.20:12
RizRm_tadeu: I'm using nvidia 7800 gtx with nvidia driver and dual head. u reckon it's gonna be ok with alpha?20:13
m_tadeuRizR: I know...I'm willing to try it on the weekend(on a friends pc, of course :P)20:13
m_tadeuRizR:  i guess the drivers will be the same....not sure dough20:13
m_tadeuRizR: but understand that some plasmoids won't work since you installed kde4.2 due to libplasma20:15
RizRm_tadeu: ok and how's it going to work in the final jaunty20:16
RizRm_tadeu: Is this resolution on the list I mean?20:16
m_tadeuRizR: that won't be a problem in jaunty, since it only uses kde4.2.x20:17
RizRm_tadeu: I've never really paid attention to how dist-upgrade works but I magine it's going to wipe out old packages (minus user settings) and install new ones for them. IS it that simple?20:18
amgarchIn9RizR: dist-upgrade deleted all broken libplasma2 dependecies for me after I gave up to resolve the coflicts manually20:20
m_tadeuRizR: dist-upgrade is quite the same as upgrade, but allows you to upgrade system stuff(not only apps)...aldough I think the kernel is an exception20:20
RizRok thanks guys. I'll be back in few mins.20:21
failershow do i update from 8.10 to jaunty20:21
failersdo i have to reinstall=20:21
RizRI'll spend some time on investigation and see if I convince to do dist-upgrade20:21
amgarchIn9RizR: but I wasnt upgrading to Jaunty, only to intrepid-backports20:22
pm2Is there a known issue with Firefox crashing frequently under the latest Kubuntu?20:27
tdnI have some files with filenames in some strange encoding. Is there a program that can "guess" which encoding it is? I want to convmv them to utf8.20:30
eli_hi guys - i need some help with installing a new driver20:30
Trijntjei'm running kubuntu 8.10 in virtualbox and i'm trying to get compiz scale plugin working. It shows as activated but the key bindings dont work, any sugestions?20:34
sillePreviously running programs start up  automatically after a reboot.  Is there a system setting that will turn this feature off?20:36
DeSianwho is the keyboard layout in Kubuntu?20:37
m_tadeusille: yes, on system settings....then on session manager20:37
DeSianidon't found somthing about keyboard layout switching!!20:38
amgarchIn9DeSian: System Settings -> Regional & Language20:39
eli_DeSian: what is the problem?20:39
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eli_can someone help me to install a new driver? it's already compiled to *.ko file.20:43
amgarchIn9eli_: install it somewhere into /lib/module/KERNELVERSION, depmod -ae, modprobe DRIVERNAME20:44
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DeSianamgarchIn9: i want to test kde, but really is no good coise :D20:45
DeSianthe keyboard layout switching in total Bugy20:45
DeSianððđŋŋŋ20:46
DeSianjðđ®đĸ20:46
DeSiansrry20:46
amgarchIn9DeSian: работает!20:46
DeSianamgarchIn9: the keyboard layout dont worked for me20:46
DeSianku_ara20:47
DeSianif i type with ku_ara in terminal worked, but not in kate or her20:47
eli_amgarchin9: can we make it step by step? It's my first time20:47
DeSianđjđ20:47
amgarchIn9eli_: first, find if there is a way to avoid doing it, kernel module installation is not a piece of cake20:49
amgarchIn9what driver is it?20:50
eli_amgarchin9: it's a driver for lenovo sl500 series20:50
eli_it appaears that usual thinkpad acpi doesn't support well hotkeys and brightness control20:51
amgarchIn9eli_: lsmod | grep video ? that module controls brightness20:51
Dekansis there a repo with koffice 2 beta 7 ?20:52
DekansI have beta 5 for now20:52
DekansI'd like to test the last one20:52
RizRamgarchIn9: I already upgraded to intrepid-backports. And I think that introduced this issue.20:53
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RizRamgarchIn9: could you tell me what repos you've ( or haven't)20:53
eli_output                 11776  1 video20:53
eli_amgarchin9: i've posted the output of lsmod20:54
RizRmy /etc/apt/sources.list looks like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/127444/20:54
amgarchIn9RizR: intrepid-backports and medibuntu in addition to default ones. Medibuntu is irrelevant for your case20:56
RizRok. thanks.20:57
amgarchIn9eli_: start "acpi_listen" and try pressing special keys20:57
eli_amgarchin9: ok, the brigtness control keys show video LCDD 00000086 or 8721:00
eli_amgarchin9: sound controls are dead21:00
amgarchIn9eli_: and both have no intended effect?21:03
amgarchIn9eli_: get kubuntu Jaunty alfa *.iso, burn with usb-create to a LiveUSB and see if things get better with kernel 2.6.2821:05
eli__thanks, i'll try this21:06
lazzursEvening all has anyone seen Riddell?21:14
Dr_willis!seen riddell21:15
ubottuI have no seen command21:15
Dr_willis:()21:15
Dr_willisnot me.21:15
lacipíse tu niekto aj po slovensky?21:16
laciír itt valaki magyarul is?21:16
amgarchIn9laci: maybe #ubuntu-hu ?21:17
jimmy51_homehello, how can i configure transmission to only deal with encrypted traffic?21:17
_kwis there any info about when kubuntu will have kde 4.2?21:17
Philo06Speaking of that, how can you check your KDE ver?21:18
_kwhm, just check the about box of the control center I'd guess?21:19
kaddii finally realised, that my konqueror is also crashing. is there a workaround? (other than simply enter a location that konqueror should open, to avoid the startscreen)21:19
Dr_willisor the menu items in any app.. if it a kde 4 app that is.21:19
Dr_willis:)21:19
joelhello21:20
Philo06It says 3.5.10, but the interface is KDE421:20
amgarchIn9Philo06: Help -> About KDE21:20
kaddi!hi |joel21:20
ubottujoel: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!21:20
joelspeak french please21:21
kaddi!fr |joel21:21
ubottujoel: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr21:21
joelwelcome21:21
_kwso any idea when 4.2 will be a part of a non-alpha kubuntu?21:21
amgarchIn9Philo06: some older apps use older kde21:21
drostie_kw: April.21:21
joelok merci21:21
joelbonne soirée21:21
_kwok21:21
drostiePossibly a little sooner.21:21
Philo06Well, that doesnt help me then.21:21
drostie(with a jaunty beta)21:21
Philo06Obviously just checking an application isn't enough.21:21
_kwok, so it's coming with jaunty basically21:22
kaddibonne soirée ;)21:22
_kwwhich is going from alpha->beta in april (roughly), any ideas when it's out of beta as well?21:22
_kwor is there no timeline for that yet?21:22
drostieJaunty is 9.04, which means it gets released 04.2009. It's out of beta in april.21:22
drostieIt transitions from alpha to beta somewhere in between.21:23
drostiePossibly next month or so.21:23
_kwah oki21:23
drostieer, this month rather.21:23
* drostie still thinks it's February :-/21:23
_kw;-)21:23
Philo06Ah, it's 4.1.421:23
_kwit's been a week already ;)21:23
drostie_kw: The TU Delft has eaten my brain :-P21:24
_kwI see :-)21:25
BentFranklinI usually log into my Kubuntu 8.10 through NX.  But I do have a console.  I logged in on that recently, then when I logged out, expecting to se  the login menu again (all the user names), it crashed to text.  Yet my system is still running fine otherwise.  How do I restore the kde (4.1) on the console?21:34
Dr_willisrestart the kdm servife perhaps?21:35
BentFranklinThere isn't even a prompt on the console.  I can log in and get a fien KDE session remotely.21:36
BentFranklin^fine21:36
BentFranklinHow woudl I restart kde?  Can I do it just on that display?21:37
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amgarchIn9BentFranklin: ssh, ps x, and kill all your pids21:42
DaSkreechBentFranklin: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart on the terminal21:43
BentFranklinthat one sounds better!21:43
gileshello I am trying to find out if msn/wlm is working in kopete 0.70.021:43
BentFranklinDaSkreech: I have to type that on the tty?  Because there is no prompt.21:44
DaSkreechBentFranklin: You said you can get a remote connection ?21:44
BentFranklinyes21:44
DaSkreechBentFranklin: On the remote connection pull up a konsole and type that21:45
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corvixhi there ... I just found a few issues on kubuntu jaunty and wonder if they are already known / whether I should report them ...21:46
BentFranklinDaSkreech: Nice magic!  Why didn't that affect my remote X/KDE display also?21:46
DaSkreechmagic :)21:46
gilesI have looked in all the obvious places, and cant find wheter it should be working or not.21:46
DaSkreechgiles: What version is your libmsn?21:46
DaSkreechcorvix: #ubuntu+121:47
DaSkreechBentFranklin: Your X session from the remote display never goes through KDM21:47
corvixDaSkreech: thanks21:47
DaSkreechRestarting doesn't harm any X server that's doing a remote connection21:47
gilesDaSkreech: 0.1 i think.21:48
DaSkreechgiles: Should work21:48
gileshmm21:49
amgarchIn9BentFranklin: you should have listened to me21:49
BentFranklinamgarchIn9: I did run ps aux, to try to figure which process to kill, but it's confusing because it only displays the first 15 chars of each command that started the process.21:50
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BentFranklinIf I had killed kdm woudl that have restarted it also?21:51
gilesI just do killall kdm21:52
BentFranklinWhere can I read more about the relationship between displays, X, kdm, and KDE?21:53
gilesDaSkreech: do you know how to get kopete to display msn debug info per chance?21:53
DaSkreechBentFranklin: Yes21:54
DaSkreechgiles: #kopete21:54
amgarchIn9BentFranklin: ps x | grep startkde21:54
gilesI tried there they are ignoring me :(21:54
DaSkreechgiles: Doubtful. Probably just sleeping :)21:55
DaSkreechBentFranklin: KDE is a desktop Environment21:55
* giles knows they are not really ignoring him and are probably sleeping21:55
giles;)21:55
DaSkreechKDM is the long lived script that manages the X session as well as takes special Non-X related commands like ACPI shutdown and reboot commands21:56
DaSkreechX is the window server21:56
amgarchIn9BentFranklin: or ps x | less and then left arrow21:56
gilesKDM is a script?21:56
BentFranklinDaSkreech: I'm reading that kdm can spawn KDE or Gnome.  I assumed every application that started with k was related to KDE.  That's where the confusion was.21:56
DaSkreechgiles: Process is a better word21:56
gilesindeed the K in KDM stands for KDE21:57
DaSkreechBentFranklin: All it does is start a script on the other end That can be kdeinit startgnome e-init.sh or just xterm21:57
gilesi.e KDE Display Manager (is that right?)21:57
DaSkreechBentFranklin: The K comes in when someone in KDE clicks Shut down or restart (hibernate etc) KDM knows how to deal with it21:57
DaSkreechGDM probably doesn't21:57
amgarchIn9BentFranklin: *right arrow, that is21:57
DaSkreechSo if you log into Gnome from KDM you may not be able to shut down from inside Gnome and you must logout first21:58
BentFranklinIs the a gdm then?21:58
DaSkreechYes21:58
DaSkreechand a XDM21:58
OutoLumokdm is the kde-related script that has the same functionality s Gnome related gdm and X related xdm. It let's one start a session, e.g. KDE or GNOME session. Basically it's just a X-window script with a theme.21:59
drostie!kdm21:59
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about kdm21:59
BentFranklinAnd when I come in remotely it doesn't go through the login screen so I never touch kdm I go straight into KDE21:59
OutoLumo!xdm21:59
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about xdm21:59
gilesOutoLumo: Your use of the word script is very confusing21:59
gileshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_Display_Manager21:59
DaSkreechBentFranklin: Right22:00
BentFranklinOK, I'll read for a while, but I'll be back!22:00
DaSkreechAmyRose: !! hi!22:02
OutoLumogiles, sorry, I though it runs on bash 8^X22:02
DaSkreechOutoLumo: no There is nothing stopping it from doing that but it actually doesn't22:02
OutoLumook, sorry... my misunderstanding (new day, new idea)22:03
gilesOutoLumo: Its a program22:03
gileswrittern in C no doubt22:04
DaSkreechc++22:04
pippo_[|-ppc-w-|]-xdcc-00222:06
gilespippo_: say again?22:06
DaSkreechhi coreyman22:09
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gilespippo_: did you just paste a password to the wrong window?22:10
AmyRoseDaSkreech: Hey :D22:12
DaSkreechHow are you?22:13
gileswb pippo_22:13
DaSkreechgiles: Shhhhhhh22:13
DaSkreechlet the password slide :)22:13
gilesheh22:13
DaSkreechAmyRose: I've been missing you22:13
DaSkreechI should aim better eh?22:13
gileslol22:13
gilesI am gonna use that one on my gf next time she says she misses me.22:14
AmyRoseDaSkreech: I've been busy22:15
AmyRoseAnd I didn't really care for KDE 4.0 and 4.1...22:16
AmyRose4.2 is a different story altogether though22:16
coreymanhi daskreech22:17
DaSkreechgiles: X-D22:18
DaSkreechAmyRose: Ha ha Wait till KDE 4.3 envy kicks in22:19
DaSkreechhow goes it coreyman?22:21
coreymandaskreech good, munchin on puffs cheetos22:23
Fieldycan i upgrade cleanly from 8.04.2 in-place to 8.10?22:23
DaSkreechFieldy: In general yes22:23
Fieldyworth a shot i suppose (i keep full backups)22:24
DaSkreechFieldy: I don't expect data loss22:24
noaXesshow to get information, if a package is installed or not?.. with apt-get?22:24
DaSkreechYou may want to back ~/.*22:24
Fieldyi had installed kde4 quite a while ago through some info that used to be in the topic here, do i need to manually remove that first?22:24
Fieldyi back up /  :)22:24
DaSkreechFieldy: Likely22:24
drostienoaXess: [aptitude search packagename].22:24
DaSkreechFieldy: Not that it harms anything it just makes things cleaner22:24
Fieldyi'm hoping that's as easy as using adept to uninstall the kde4-meta or whatever22:25
DaSkreechFieldy: it is22:25
Fieldyphew22:25
drostieerm.22:25
drostienoaXess: [aptitude show packagename].22:25
DaSkreechFieldy: And as it stands 4.2.0 is in main 4.2.1 is in the repo in the topic22:25
coreymanFieldy that is why i put my ~/ in a different partition22:25
DaSkreechSo if you like you can have no extra repos and get 4.1.4 turn on backports and get 4.2.0 or turn on the repo in the topic and get 4.2.122:26
Fieldyyep me too i'm very familiar with partition layouts and backups :)22:26
DaSkreechWho complained about too much choice with KDE? :)22:26
DaSkreechFieldy: So what would you like to upgrade to? :)22:26
Fieldyhrm. i see many kde4 items in adept that are installed but none of them sound like the main one thing to tell it to uninstall (and take the rest of that kde4 with it)22:27
coreymanfieldy oh ok :D22:27
Fieldy8.1022:27
coreymani think its kde-desktop22:27
coreymanor something like that22:27
DaSkreechFieldy: kdelibs522:27
Fieldyyeah it's kubuntu-kde4-desktop it looks like22:27
Fieldytime to push a backup first...22:28
coreymanyea that fieldy.22:28
DaSkreechFieldy: It's kdelibs522:28
FieldyDaSkreech: it's not 5 here22:28
devilsadvocateFieldy, removing kubuntu-kde4-desktop wont remove kde 422:28
coreymanoh mabye im wrong then22:28
amgarchIn9DaSkreech: did you just say 4.2.1 is available in some repo?22:28
DaSkreechFieldy: what do ou have for kdelibs?22:28
Fieldyi don't have anything close to kdelibs522:28
DaSkreechamgarchIn9: Topic22:29
coreymana sudo apt-get autoremove kubuntu-kde4-desktop wont?22:29
DaSkreechcoreyman: No that installs but it's a fake package22:29
Guest70208c ou pour les français?22:29
DaSkreech!fr22:29
ubottuCe canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr22:29
Fieldywait i see it now, i was filtering on "kde4" so now i see kdelibs5 ... 5? where did they get that # from?22:29
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DaSkreechkdelibs is always +1 to KDE version22:29
Fieldycurious22:29
AmyRoseDaSkreech: Why is that?22:29
DaSkreechso to get rid of all of KDE 3 you remove kdelibs4c2a22:29
Fieldyokay so if i remove that in adept, it'll take the rest of kde4 with it?22:30
Guest70208merci22:30
DaSkreechFieldy: Pretty much22:30
Fieldyok22:30
Fieldyonce i'm ready, what do I do to upgrade the whole install to 8.10?22:30
DaSkreechcoreyman: You understand dependencies ?22:30
DaSkreechFieldy: What would you like to upgrade to? 4.1.4 4.2.0 or 4.2.1 ?22:30
amgarchIn9DaSkreech: topic what? sorry I dont get it22:31
Fieldy4.2.1 i guess, but again i'm not interested in just kde but the whole install22:31
Fieldyi'm removing 4 here to clean it up first22:31
DaSkreechamgarchIn9: type /topic and look at the last link That repo has 4.2.122:31
coreymanyes daskreech22:31
DaSkreechFieldy: I know22:31
DaSkreech!upgrade | Fieldy22:31
ubottuFieldy: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading22:31
Fieldyok22:31
Fieldycool, i'll have a read22:31
* Fieldy is looking forward to support for my video card too (geforce 9600)22:32
DaSkreechcoreyman: Right so kubuntu-desktop depends upon a whole slew of packages even though it's empty just so they get installed22:32
Fieldyfull support that is22:32
DaSkreechBut nothing really depends on it22:32
DaSkreech:-)22:32
DaSkreechcoreyman: What you want to remove is the packages that all of KDE depends on22:32
DaSkreechwhich for the most part in this case is one package22:33
devilsadvocatecoreyman, the virtual thing is kind of one-way, basically. top of the tree - you can chop it off without bringing down the whole thing, but you need the whole thing to put it up in the first place22:33
DaSkreechYou have strigi and akonadi and stuff that isn't KDE22:33
coreymani understand dependencies22:33
coreymani just thought kde4-desktop was the main one.22:33
DaSkreechbut it's mostly done :)22:33
* DaSkreech shudders at the removal of Gnome22:33
Fieldyi thought so too but it sounds like experience shows wrong :)22:33
coreymanbrb22:34
DaSkreechcoreyman: It depends on a lot of things. Nothing depends on it22:34
DaSkreechYou remove it and no one cares22:34
Fieldyhow do i controll what items in /etc/init.d start up at boot? I'm interested in stopping a few things from starting22:34
DaSkreechIt's the guy in the corner at the party who needs to be there but if he walks out no one knows22:34
DaSkreechFieldy: update-rc.d22:35
JuJuBeeHow do I find out what chipset my wifi is using?22:35
JuJuBeeCan't connect to my router with new laptop.22:36
FieldyDaSkreech: okay, thanks22:36
Fieldyupdate-rc.d: /etc/init.d/vmware exists during rc.d purge (use -f to force)             is that a problem?22:37
Fieldyuh n/m i'm using it wrong22:37
Fieldyactually i'm confused. i just want to stop vmware from starting, not remove the script.22:38
amgarchIn9JuJuBee: lspci -v22:38
JuJuBeeAtheros - AR928x22:39
amgarchIn9DaSkreech: 4.2.1 is not in my intrepid-backports yet22:39
* AmyRose can't wait for KOffice 2.0 to be final22:40
amgarchIn9JuJuBee: it may lie though lspci -n gives raw product numbers22:41
AmyRoseAnd are there any plans for OpenOffice.org to support KDE 4? I haven't found any info on this after days of Googling this.22:41
RizRhow do I span one wallpaper across both monitors in dual-head setup in kde?22:44
coreymanrizr twin view?22:46
coreymanrizr what version of kde22:46
coreymanrizr kde4 has better support for dual-head22:46
coreymanok ask and dont look for a response22:48
RizRsorry mate22:50
RizRcoreyman: I was away for a sec. kde4.2.x got compiz on22:50
RizRcoreyman: http://paste.ubuntu.com/127481/ my xorg.conf22:51
RizRalt+F2 doesnt seem to work in kde4?22:51
coreymanrizr ill take a look in a sec22:52
RizRcoreyman: thanks22:52
DaSkreechamgarchIn9: I know I just said it's not in backports22:54
DaSkreechAmyRose: Dont get hopes up for Kofice 2.022:56
DaSkreechAmyRose: OpenOffice.org actualyl just droped KDE support from the build scripts22:56
Fieldynasty22:56
DaSkreechRizR: run krunner22:57
coreymanrizr let me guess the top area is black22:57
coreyman    Option         "metamodes" "CRT: 1280x1024, DFP: 1680x1050"22:57
coreyman    Option   "TwinViewOrientation" "DFP Below CRT"22:57
DaSkreechack!22:57
coreymanreplace the resolutions with your resolutions22:57
RizRcoreman: hmmm22:57
RizRno black areas22:57
coreymani mean your other monitor22:57
coreymanrizr.22:58
coreymanor whatever you have your bg color set to22:58
coreymando what i gave you.22:58
coreymanchange your orientation22:58
coreymanto what yours is, your crt may be to the right22:58
coreymanif it is, put Rightof where Below is.22:58
AmyRoseDaSkreech: Why? Are they GNOME-only now?22:58
DaSkreechGtk22:59
DaSkreechOpenOffice isn't Gnome22:59
DaSkreechI think they may be dropping some scripts for the changes coming22:59
RizRcoreyman: ok next.22:59
coreymanrizr you replace     Option         "metamodes" "CRT: nvidia-auto-select +1280+0, DFP: nvidia-auto-select +0+0"  with that?23:00
DaSkreechand all OO.o support is KDE3 in anycase23:00
AmyRoseDaSkreech: I hope they don't only focus on GTK now...23:00
DaSkreechSo they may when the dust settles introduce new KDE4 support scripts :)23:00
DaSkreechAmyRose: With Koffice coming up as competition?23:00
RizRyes23:00
DaSkreechThey better play nice :)23:00
RizRi did but dont get it :) why different resolution?23:01
coreymanRizr also take the -1 off TwinViewXineramaInfoOrder23:01
AmyRoseDaSkreech: But you said don't count on KOffice 2.0! =P23:01
coreymanrizr replace the resolutions with your resolutions23:01
DaSkreechAmyRose: Koffice 2.0 == Amarok 2.0 == KDE 4.023:01
RizRcoreyman: aha. ok.  1 sec23:01
DaSkreechI said  Koffice is coming up as competition23:01
DaSkreechKoffice 2.0 is not comeptition23:02
coreymanrizr leave the -1 on there for now, and if it doesn't work we'll take that off.23:02
DaSkreechKoffice 2.4?23:02
DaSkreechCould be veeeeery nice23:02
AmyRoseAh23:02
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Kovertis there a fix for the fact that after i updated to 4.2.1 the screen saver cant be set to not lock?23:03
RizRcoreyman: ok. done23:03
RizRrightof/RightOf. case sensitive?23:03
coreymanrizr probably23:04
coreymanonce done, ctrl-alt-backspace to restart x23:04
JuJuBeeAnybody help me get my wifi connected?  Atheros ath9k kernel module23:04
RizRcoreyman: OK, my problem is not dual-head. my dual-head is fine. I just need my wallpaper to span on both monitors rather than two separate wallpapers23:04
coreymanrizr i know.23:05
RizReverything else works fine. I don't have cloned displays23:05
coreymanrizr i had to do this to get it to span23:05
RizRcoreyman: ok.23:05
coreymanrizr oh wait23:05
coreymanrizr you mean the wallpaper is being displayed twice? and you don't want that?23:05
RizRmay be if mood takes :-)23:06
RizRbut right now i would really like to have one image span across both23:06
coreymanhmph.... i misunderstood what you said then.23:06
coreymanbut your xorg should be fine still.23:06
DaSkreechRizR: Probably a bug/wishlist on that in bugs.kde.org already find it and vote23:06
RizRno worries23:06
coreymanwith that config23:06
RizRok23:07
RizRDaSKreech: thanks :)23:07
RizRok one more thing. where do I setup keyboard shortcuts for any apps?23:07
coreymansee when i used nvidia it wasn't displaying the wallpaper twice, and i had to do those options to get it to do that... it just wasn't displaying anything at all on my other monitor23:08
coreymanwhen i used nvidia-settings*23:08
RizRicc23:08
RizRin my case gnome just doesnt do it. understandable cuz gnome doesnt have that option. when i logged into kde however, it just did by default.23:08
coreymanrizr i know a technique you could use to have the same image on both monitors.23:08
RizRfor gnome to work like this i've to use compiz's plugin23:08
RizRcoreyman, what's that?23:09
coreymancut the image in half with the gimp right click desktop2 put part 2 on it, right click desktop one and put part 1 on it23:09
RizR:)23:09
RizRhack23:10
coreymani like the default kde background :d23:10
RizR:)23:11
RizR where do I setup keyboard shortcuts for any apps?23:11
coreymanrizr i know that one.. one sec23:13
jussi01system settings, keyboard and mouse23:13
jussi01RizR: ^23:13
coreymancomputer>systemsettings>keyboard and mouse23:13
RizRjussi01 yes there23:13
RizRthe one i'm looking for is alt+f2 for krunner23:14
DaSkreechRizR: Most apps have it on settings -> Configure shortcuts as well23:14
RizRbut it's already there23:14
jussi01!tab | coreyman23:14
ubottucoreyman: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.23:14
DaSkreechRizR: you have to start krunner once23:14
DaSkreechafter that alt+F2 works fine23:14
Kbevillehi to the room i am using a hp pavilion dv6000 that the one with the remote (rc remote for windows media cente) i am now using xbmc can it work with xbmc???23:14
coreymantab isn't working23:14
RizRDaSkreech, doesn't23:14
DaSkreechIf you logout of a KDE session kruner will restart next time you login23:14
RizRDaSkreech, I started krunner from konsole23:14
coreymanafk a while.23:15
RizRDaSkreech, oh. alright. Where do auto start programs go?23:15
DaSkreechRizR: Did krunner pop up?23:15
RizRDaSkreech, yes23:16
DaSkreechthen what did you do?23:16
RizRDaSkreech, sorry, it pops up when I started manually. Will logout-login in a min.23:16
DaSkreechRizR: Wait23:16
DaSkreechpress alt+F2 now23:16
Kbevillei miss that23:16
DaSkreechIt should pop up that23:16
RizRDaSkreech, nop.23:16
DaSkreech>_>23:17
DaSkreechRizR: What KDE are you running?23:17
DaSkreechKbeville: Hmm?23:17
Kovertis there a fix for the fact that after i updated to 4.2.1 the screen saver cant be set to not lock?23:17
RizRDaSkreech, 4.2.x23:17
RizRsomething23:17
DaSkreech>_>23:17
DaSkreechKovert: Not sure haven't heard of that yet. check in #kde23:17
Kbevillei got cut off23:18
DaSkreechRizR: kquitapp krunner && krunner23:18
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DaSkreechRizR: Wait. What WM are you using ?23:19
RizRDaSkreech, compiz23:19
Koverttrying the second apt-update of the day23:19
RizRDaSkreech, I see krunner is running in the background23:19
DaSkreechRizR: That would be the problem then23:20
DaSkreechI don't know that compiz sends the right dcop to trigger krunner23:20
DaSkreechRizR: run kwin  --replace23:20
RizRDaSkreech, can always use compiz for this. but that's not the ideal solution. let me switch compiz off and see23:20
DaSkreechthen try alt+F223:21
RizRnop23:21
RizRdoesnt work23:21
DaSkreechrun the kquitapp command again23:21
DaSkreechI think that it will then reregister with kwin23:21
RizRDaSkreech, works now23:22
DaSkreechRizR: ok23:22
DaSkreechWhat did you need in compiz?23:22
RizRDaSkreech, so it's compiz. what do you reckon should be the solution then?23:22
RizRDaSkreech, in compiz? compiz :-)23:22
RizRDaSkreech, I just like it :-)23:23
DaSkreech:-) What about it?23:23
RizRDaSkreech, ok funny. now it work with compiz. I just started it when kwin was the active WM23:23
DaSkreechWhoot :)23:23
DaSkreechok23:23
DaSkreechthat wrks23:23
RizRemm few things. wobbly windows23:23
DaSkreechkwin has wobbly windows23:24
RizRdoes it?23:24
gileswobbly windows heh23:24
RizRwhere are the settings?23:24
RizRi guess i need to explore :)23:24
DaSkreechrestart kwin with --replace23:24
gilesyou have to enable desktop effects23:24
DaSkreechand then press alt+F3 -> Window Settings23:24
DaSkreechShould be pretty easy to figure out after that23:24
DaSkreechRizR: also try ctrl+F923:26
RizRneat :-)23:26
RizRDaSkreech, prefer compiz though :p23:26
DaSkreechRizR: Cool just letting you know there are options23:26
RizRit's pretty nice though. thanks for this :)23:27
RizRI've been using gnome for a while now. last experience with kde was with opensuse a while back. and i see why i used to use kde :)23:27
RizRthanks for the help man. take care23:28
DaSkreechCool I'm off23:28
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kastenas23:34
ubuntu_amgarchin9: i'm trying the 9.04 but it's not working better23:35
mgingho aggiunto il repo launchpad kubuntu-experimental/ubuntu per installare kde4.2 nella mia intrepid... ora però non funziona piu niente... se lancio il demone kdm mi dice stat /usr/bin/kdm: No such file or directory23:47
tanjircan anyone tell me how can i install matlab?23:52
FanfareHi @ all. Any suggestions on this one? A Fax-Solution Kabc <-> capisuitefax. http://rafb.net/p/nkvNYp12.html23:54
Fanfaretanjir: sry, dont know matlab.23:54
Fanfaretanjir: This one? http://www.mathworks.de/products/matlab/index.html23:55
Fieldyhello, i just updated from hardy heron to 8.10. i have an nvidia gt 9600 video card. my display is flickering about 5 - 10 times a minute, it's very irritating. anyone know about this issue?23:56
FanfareFieldy: Not really, but maybe u should setup ur xorg.conf again...23:57
Fieldyhm. i've never set it up in the first place, how do I trigger this?23:58
FanfareFieldy: one way is to delete /etc/X11/xorg.conf Or better move to xorg.conf.backup23:58
Fanfarerestart X then and then rerun jockey23:59
FieldyFanfare: okay then it'll just get regenerated?23:59
Fieldywhere can I find jockey?23:59
Fieldyactually... this is kde4 that search bar in the menu may help23:59
Fanfaredefault is to generate with the opensource driver  (IIRC)23:59
Fieldyoh okay. got it.23:59

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