/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2009/03/06/#ubuntu-desktop.txt

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pittiGood morning07:43
primes2hvuntz: Hi, please could you have a look here? bug 334377 . Something changed in in latest releases?07:50
ubottuLaunchpad bug 334377 in libmbca "Lots of country names are missing, showing "missing from libgweather" in mobile broadband connection wizard." [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/33437707:50
didrocksmorning07:56
didrockshey seb12808:38
seb128hello08:38
pittihey seb12808:41
pittimoin didrocks08:41
seb128hello pitti08:42
seb128pitti: did you look at the retracers yet (asking before doing that now)?08:42
didrocksseb128: I think that bug #338490 needs some love (I think that the transition was during my build in pbuilder and the soyuz build)08:42
ubottuLaunchpad bug 338490 in pessulus "Please, fix FTBFS because of python 2.6 transition" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/33849008:42
didrockshello pitti :)08:42
seb128bzr-buildpackage becomes smarter with the day08:59
seb128bzr commit now automatically prefil the commit message using the changelog08:59
didrocksseb128: I am still with the intrepid bzr-buildpackage. I used debcommit previously for that. That's great if it has been integrated ;)09:01
didrocksseb128: thanks :)09:22
seb128didrocks: thank you for the work09:23
huatsmorning everyone09:40
didrocksmorning huats!09:43
huatso/ didrocks09:44
seb128lut huats09:45
huatshello seb12809:46
looldobey: w00t09:53
seb128dobey: hey, could you roll a new intltool tarball?09:53
seb128dobey: we got build issue due to the wrong sh use which has been fixed to svn from what lool told me ;-)09:53
* Ng boggles. does anyone have a second to test something in jaunty? fire up gedit, type a few words, go Search->Search. Does the "Find" button become sensitive with any combination of options?10:36
Ngsorry, Search->Find10:36
Ngthe only thing I use gedit for is quickly searching text files ;)10:37
seb128*shrug*, user telling us about that again and again without looking for the 1654646464617 duplicates in launchpad we got this week10:38
seb128Ng: known issue ;-)10:39
seb128I will backport the workaround I think10:39
* seb128 does that now10:39
NgI didn't mean *you*, you're far too busy :)10:39
Ngbut sorry, I didn't mean to repeat a well known thing10:40
seb128it annoys me too and no new tarball is planned before next alpha10:40
seb128since we get a least one bug a day about it will spare me time to backport it now10:40
seb128that's ok, good that you mentionned it I told myself I would backport that today and that slipped from my todolist this morning10:40
Ngthanks very much :)10:41
seb128Ng: fixed version uploaded10:56
Ngsweet :)10:58
seb128james_w: there?11:12
vuntzCC/W 2312:35
vuntzheh12:35
kenvandine_wkpitti: i did some experimenting... i do like cdbs better :)14:04
pittihehe14:04
pittikenvandine_wk: I'd have bet14:04
pittikenvandine_wk: however, it's nice to do a plain-debhelper debian/rules once, so that you understand what it's doing14:05
kenvandine_wki created a new package from scratch, that has never had  a debian package (one of my projects in LP)14:05
kenvandine_wki did it without cdbs and then started over with cdbs14:05
pittiand what all these debian/foo.install, foo.manpages etc. are for, and what handles them14:05
kenvandine_wkthen compared the rules14:05
kenvandine_wkhuge difference14:05
pittikenvandine_wk: I need to prep the release meeting now, but feel free to mail me the package, then I'll do some nitpicking14:05
kenvandine_wkbut was interesting to see what it is doing14:05
pitti(or both)14:05
kenvandine_wksure14:06
kenvandine_wkbuilding in my ppa now :)14:06
slomo_seb128: can you do something about https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/notify-sharp/+bug/337871 ? the latest version from debian should be synced (also someone should/could take a look at merging notification-daemon and libnotify from debian)14:12
ubottuUbuntu bug 337871 in notify-sharp "Please sync notify-sharp (0.4.0~r2998-2) from Debian unstable" [Wishlist,Confirmed]14:12
seb128slomo_: ok thanks14:12
dholbachseb128: do you think anybody else in the desktop team can help hggdh with libpst?14:26
dholbachseb128: I'm just back from a sprint and quite busy with stuff14:26
seb128hey dholbach, I've tried several time to ping people, I guess I will have to do that myself14:26
dholbachcome on you slackers! help seb128!14:27
seb128I've been trying to push motus to get that and evolution-mapi reviewed for months, I managed to get evolution-mapi uploaded some days ago14:27
* dholbach hugs seb12814:27
seb128I guess relying on motu is a a fail, I will go back to do things we need to get done14:27
seb128that's a bit annoying14:27
* seb128 hugs dholbach14:27
seb128we have great desktop contributors but the whole motu REVU and roundtrip takes months and just doesn't work when you need to get things done14:28
dholbachseb128: do you have a team TODO list?14:28
dholbachit sucks :-/14:28
seb128we have a TODO list on the wiki though it's not really uptodate14:29
* hggdh is somewhat worried on having cause so much distress14:29
seb128it's not you14:29
* kenvandine_wk wished debuild or pbuilder would blow up if the section was set to unknown14:30
pittilintian FTW :)14:30
pittikenvandine_wk: you should have lintian installed14:30
kenvandine_wkhumm14:31
kenvandine_wki do14:31
dobeyseb128: hmm, i was wanting to get some more fixes in before i roll another tarball, but i guess i could14:31
seb128dholbach: I'm away for an hour or so but we can talk about that later if you want14:31
pittiMacSlow: are you tracking bug 331564 ?14:31
ubottuLaunchpad bug 331564 in compiz "sometimes notification flickers when fading in" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/33156414:31
kenvandine_wkpitti: maybe i need to do something in my packaging make it fire?14:31
seb128dobey: get a tarball before 2.26 so 2.26 tarballs are rolled with a non broken version ;-)14:31
dholbachseb128: right, let's do that14:32
pittikenvandine_wk: debuild automatically uses it if it's installed14:32
MacSlowpitti, not been able to reproduce this yet myself14:32
kenvandine_wkpitti: it says "Finished running linitian"14:32
kenvandine_wkpitti: would it have been a warning or an error?14:32
MacSlowpitti, but I'm not yet in full-blow bug-squashing mode yet14:32
pittiMacSlow: do you think there's still something which needs fixing in jaunty? (in the "release critical" sense)14:33
MacSlowpitti, I'll try harder after the capetown week14:33
pittiokay, thanks14:33
MacSlowpitti, the only thing I could guess (wild guessing here) is that the new user does not "inherit" the system-wide settings for compiz-plugins14:34
MacSlowpitti, mainly "animation" and "fade"14:34
pittiMacSlow: a new user account will, but maybe not that reporter? he still might have custom gconf settings14:34
MacSlowpitti, those are the two plugins which could interfere with the fade-animations of notify-osd14:34
pittiMacSlow: you can try asking for a gconftool -R /apps/compiz dump or so14:34
kenvandine_wkpitti: there are 2 lines that start with an E: in the output, but neither say anything about section14:35
* kenvandine_wk should look at those closer anyway14:35
pittikenvandine_wk: apparently lintian doesn't test that then14:35
MacSlowpitti, I don't think it will be hard to nail down once I focus on bugs14:35
MacSlowhey bfiller14:37
bfillerhowdy MacSlow14:38
kenvandine_wkdh-make-template-in-source debian/prerm.ex14:44
kenvandine_wkare those .ex files just cruft?14:45
kenvandine_wkcreated by dh_make14:45
dholbachkenvandine_wk: yes, delete them if you don't need them14:48
kenvandine_wkthx14:48
kenvandine_wkthought so14:48
dholbach:)14:48
kenvandine_wknow to decide what i don't need14:48
kenvandine_wk:)14:48
dholbachrm debian/{dirs,docs,*.ex,*.EX,README.Debian}      :)14:48
* kenvandine_wk thinks watch.ex should have a launchpad example14:48
dholbachoh, yeah debian/watch is nice14:49
kenvandine_wki want that one :)14:49
dholbachkenvandine_wk:     apt-get source --diff-only storm        for an example14:49
kenvandine_wkok14:49
dholbachor jokosher too14:49
kenvandine_wkdholbach: any idea why it won't find the .gz files, but will find the .bz2?14:57
kenvandine_wkhttps://launchpad.net/gnome-shutdown/+download14:57
kenvandine_wkhttps://launchpad.net/gnome-shutdown/+download http://launchpad.net/gnome-shutdown/trunk/.*/gnome-shutdown      -(.*)\.tar\.gz14:57
kenvandine_wkif i change that to .bz2 it finds 0.4, the last release that has a .bz214:58
kenvandine_wkbut 0.6 has a .gz... weird14:58
dholbachdid you try --verbose to see what's happening?14:58
kenvandine_wkno :)14:58
kenvandine_wkoh!14:59
kenvandine_wknevermind :)14:59
kenvandine_wkit's because it is the newest :)14:59
kenvandine_wkthx14:59
kenvandine_wknewbie mistake :-p14:59
primes2hvuntz: Hi, what changed in libgweather recently? bug #33437715:04
ubottuLaunchpad bug 334377 in libgweather "Lots of country names are missing, showing "missing from libgweather" in mobile broadband connection wizard." [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/33437715:04
* kenvandine_wk found http://lintian.debian.org/tags and hugs lintian15:13
vuntzprimes2h: are the country names still in the clock applet (when adding a location)?15:13
primes2hvuntz: You mean if it's in the time zone?15:18
primes2hvuntz: wait, i understand, I check.15:19
primes2hvuntz: I checked Italy, and it's there... there are a lot of cities missed, but that is another story....15:21
asachuats: not sure, but the webkit python thing hasnt made it to my mirror yet15:23
huatsasac: I have heard that... I will double check15:24
primes2hvuntz: I checked other country names  and they are present, all in this form  "city name", "Country name"15:24
asachuats: its in NEW15:24
vuntzprimes2h: so it would be a bug in the software using the libgweather data15:24
asachuats: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pywebkitgtk/1.0.2-1ubuntu115:24
huatsok15:25
asachuats: was there no way to fix this bug without doing this NEW `15:25
asac?15:25
asac;)15:25
asacnow we are stiill waiting15:25
huatsI have setup a transitional package for that... that is the reason for the NEW I think...15:25
asachuats: yeah. what i just wondered if we really needed 1.0.2 now ;)15:26
huatsI understand15:26
asacwe could have just fixed 1.0.1 ... but well. its not a big problem15:26
asaci hope some archive admin will get the time to let it in ;)15:27
huatsI should have done that in2 steps15:27
primes2hvuntz: but if you see on the bug report, kaijanmaki close the bug saying it was a libgweather database country issue..15:27
asachuats: would have been nice given the breakage we currently suffer15:27
asac1st. unblock; 2nd new stuff15:27
primes2hvuntz: I mean, the bug against libmbca15:27
huatsI haven't realized the difference of time between both15:27
huatsasac: sorry for that15:27
asachuats: no problem. i just wanted to point out the possibility to do it in 2 steps ;)15:27
huatsasac: I clearly see it NOW :)15:28
asacgreat ;)15:28
huatsand it is true that I haven't envisaged it a the beginning...15:28
* huats has still so many stuffs to learn..15:28
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asacyeah. thats how learning by doing works ;)15:28
vuntzprimes2h: well, I would say he was wrong ;-)15:29
primes2hvuntz: Could you comment the bug about libgweather, please?15:30
asachuats: also the breakage is confined to just 4 rdepends. which is good15:30
vuntzprimes2h: the data is still there in libgweather. Not sure what else I can say?15:30
vuntzprimes2h: I know nothing about this libmbca stuff...15:30
huatsasac: yes but it is still a problem..15:30
vuntzprimes2h: as long as it's working in the clock applet, it's nearly 100% safe to assume it's not a libgweather issue15:31
vuntzpitti: re bug 27730915:32
ubottuLaunchpad bug 277309 in gnome-session "Missing suspend icon with non-human theme" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/27730915:32
primes2hvuntz: Just what you told me now. Data is present in libgweather database, so it's not a libgweather issue, just to let him know.15:32
vuntzpitti: the correct fix is to ship the icon with gnome-session15:32
pittivuntz: ah, ok15:32
pittivuntz: hm, but hang on, then it wouldn't be themed any more?15:33
vuntzpitti: since it's not an icon that exists in the icon naming spec, it has to be an app icon15:33
pittior, if we just change the package, not the path, then it wouldn't change anything?15:33
vuntzpitti: it surely can. Put the icon in hicolor, and themes can override it15:33
dobeyhuh?15:33
pittivuntz: okay, that'd work15:33
dobeypitti: yeah, following the instructions in the live.gnome.org link works15:34
dobey(i guess i should know, since i came up with all this stuff)15:34
vuntzprimes2h: if you cc me on the bug, I might be able to reply by mail. Can't reply via web browser at the moment...15:35
primes2hvuntz: done. Thanks :-)15:35
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dobeyis firefox 3.0.7 getting packaged for intrepid? :)16:46
Tm_Talready done16:46
dobeyso i see16:47
dobeyi wonder why my updater doesn't do the apt-get update automatically on this machine :(16:48
crevetteit seems to be broken for me as well16:50
seb128dobey: using intrepid or jaunty?16:55
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dobeyseb128: intrepid17:49
seb128dunno then17:49
seb128it's a cron job17:49
dobeyyeah, it's weird17:50
calcnew OOo uploading to jaunty now :)18:08
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kenvandine_wkseb128: libgtop, what do i need to do when i am ready to get it sponsored?19:40
* kenvandine_wk got distracted learning to build packages from scratch :)19:40
kenvandine_wkseb128: i got it built with bzr-buildpackage, just need to update the changelog with bug numbers and all19:41
kenvandine_wkoh and the library symbols19:42
seb128kenvandine_wk: open a bug and subscribe ubuntu-main-sponsors to it19:44
kenvandine_wkbut what do i attach? or do i commit it with bzr?19:50
seb128kenvandine_wk: there is a launchpad feature to indicate in a bug than a fix is in a bzr on launchpad19:59
seb128didrocks uses it for his sponsoring request but didn't document it on the wiki apparently19:59
seb128I don't use it since I can upload, if you don't find it just add the bzr url to the bug20:00
kenvandine_wkseb128: ok20:01
crevettehey20:02
kenvandine_wkhey crevette20:02
crevetteis there a problem with PPA's I can't upload files apparently, the upload get stuck in the middle20:02
kenvandine_wkcrevette: i just did one a bit ago... was fine20:02
didrockskenvandine_wk: just clic on "Link a related branch" in the bug report20:03
didrocksand the specify your branch20:03
kenvandine_wkdidrocks: ok20:03
crevettein fact, it get stuck a 749/750 K20:03
crevetteand it's twice20:03
Laneycrevette: This is a problem with dput20:14
Laneythere's a bug on it20:14
dobeykenvandine_wk: or for future references bzr commit --fixes=lp:$bug_id20:14
kenvandine_wkdobey: cool20:15
crevetteLaney: okay, do you have a bug # ?20:15
Laneynope, check out dput bugs20:15
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kenvandine_wkanyone know how to do with loss of console input while building a chroot?21:09
kenvandine_wkit is at the postfix configuration, and won't take input :/21:09
* kenvandine_wk thinks maybe tweaking the term type21:10
kenvandine_wkwhew... changing my console color scheme to linux console did it :)21:21
kenvandine_wkseb128: libgtop pushed21:45

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