[00:51] <Pici> !ping
[00:52]  * Myrtti facepalms
[00:52] <Pici> argh
[00:52] <Myrtti> I just learned how to use basename, after I had written three lines of sed to do what "baseline $dir" can do
[00:53] <nickrud> but sed is so cool
[00:53] <Myrtti> but it's so utterly useless in this
[00:54] <Pici> !ping
[00:54]  * Pici waits
[00:54]  * Pici taps foot
[00:55] <nickrud> oh, were're talking useful. doh
[00:55] <nickrud> pong
[00:55] <Pici> I could request a bot reset, but I'm not sure thats going to help
[00:56] <LjL> Pici: it might if it's the server's fault...
[00:56] <Pici> LjL: The bt isnt really responding
[00:57] <LjL> Pici: what domain was the bot on again?
[00:58] <Pici> LjL: ubottu.com
[00:58] <Pici> !ping
[00:58] <LjL> Pici: i think i have access to that machine... except err, i seem to have forgot my password.
[00:58] <Pici> That was me.
[00:59] <LjL> i guessed
[01:05] <LjL> agh
[01:05] <LjL> what's that darn password
[01:08] <LjL> Pici: if it's actually the same machine that i have in mine, it seems to be responding ok aside from bot and bt
[01:09] <Pici> LjL: hmm
[01:09] <Pici> Think I should issue another restart?
[01:09] <LjL> Pici: it's not yet back, i don't know, it should be back by now
[01:09] <LjL> won't hurt i guess
[01:10] <Pici> LjL: It said it couldnt find the bot process :/
[01:10] <Myrtti> uh oh
[01:10] <Pici> Restarting it thoughj
[01:10] <LjL> i'm john-the-ripping some of my password hashes, perhaps i'll find the one
[01:11] <LjL> not that i'll able to do much even if i can get in, but at least see if something's hogging the cpu
[01:13] <Myrtti> bloody bot
[01:17] <LjL> i think it'll time out again shortly
[01:17] <Myrtti> !ping
[01:18] <LjL> weird, it answered this one fast - not mine
[01:18] <Myrtti> !ping
[01:18] <Nafallo> !ping
[01:19] <Myrtti> I think that jussi01_'s postgres might have not been a good idea
[01:21] <LjL> !test
[01:22] <LjL> dammit
[01:22] <LjL> ah wait it's silent in here
[01:22] <LjL> works in #ubuntu
[01:25] <Myrtti> ehm?
[01:25] <LjL> just updating database to newest from ubottu.com
[01:30] <LjL> by the way Myrtti, i think it would have been a good idea to @mark the conversation with turtle here - he's being random again now and it should be nice (especially for ikonia) to be able to refer to what happened here
[01:31] <Myrtti> LjL: tbh, I really couldn't care less. I'm trying to work so I can go to bed and sleep.
[01:32] <LjL> Myrtti: ok, i know you weren't intending to deal with that unban to begin with, but after all it's just a "@mark turtle_"
[01:33] <Myrtti> ok, I'm going to go to the bantracker, if it responds, and mark the conversation with the link to the irclogs.ubuntu.com.
[01:34] <Myrtti> after that I'm going to commit this damned script to the svn, and go to bed, and sleep, and hopefully have no dreams
[01:34] <LjL> Myrtti: doing it now is much more complicated, with the linking to irclogs and all
[01:34] <LjL> i'm sure someone else can just explain what happened instead
[01:35] <LjL> but if we just make it a habit of doing a @mark after dealing with bans in here, it'll be easy and useful
[01:38] <Myrtti> I have nothing positive to say in this state of mind, so I'll just shut up.
[01:38] <Myrtti> @mark Myrtti
[01:38] <Myrtti> good night
[01:38] <LjL> gee
[01:38] <LjL> night
[01:45] <LjL> ubottu seems to be responsive right now
[01:46] <LjL> i guess i'll try again in a little while though before removing ubotwo
[01:47] <LjL> Pici: are you sticking around in the following hours?
[02:23] <Grant-A> hello
[02:23] <Grant-A> I accidentally joined #ubuntuforums and noticed that I was able to enter
[02:23] <Grant-A> It's probably an issue with my hostmask accidentally making the ban invalid
[02:24] <Grant-A> I just wanted to inform you guys of the mistake
[02:26] <Grant-A> I figured that honesty would be the best idea here ;)
[02:41] <LjL> Grant-A: yes it is, we appreciate that
[02:41] <LjL> let me check
[02:42] <LjL> Grant-A: i do believe your ban is still valid
[02:43] <jdong> Grant-A: just to clarify the last time we spoke in here we agreed to re-evaluate your ban in two weeks.
[02:44] <Grant-A> ok
[02:44] <Grant-A> well, seeing as that was cleared up, I guess I'm done in here
[02:44] <jdong> now I've been an extremely busy person during this time
[02:44] <jdong> but from what I've understood from glances at channel  logs and the comments of other ops, I believe the reasons for the ban remain valid at this time, sorry.
[02:45] <Grant-A> ok
[02:45] <Grant-A> that's fine I guess
[02:46] <Grant-A> perhaps it will be lifted in time?
[02:47] <Grant-A> with good behavior, of course ;)
[02:48] <LjL> Grant-A: it will be re-evaluated in two weeks, which means there's certainly a possibility of it being lifted.
[02:49] <Grant-A> ok
[02:49] <Grant-A> thank you for your time
[02:49] <Grant-A> adiaŭ, ĝis revido. :)
[02:49] <jdong> Grant-A: I really appreciate the change of attitude :)
[02:49] <jdong> I think we are on the right track now.
[02:50] <LjL> perhaps if you could just drop the esperanto as well...
[02:50] <LjL> it turns my stomach
[02:50] <LjL> on the topic of which, given you're still being an extremely busy person, i wonder just what can be left in your nose to pick at this stage
[07:23]  * Myrtti has coffee, feels better
[07:32] <Mez> mmm, coffee
[07:32] <Mez> *barfs*
[07:34] <elky> mmm coffee
[07:34] <elky> *licks lips*
[07:36] <Gary> meh, needsmoarcoffeez
[07:48] <Myrtti> Mez: charming
[07:50] <Gary> I read that so wrong...  Mez mmm, coffee, Mez *barfs, Mez mmm coffee, Mez *licks lips* <--- eeew
[07:52] <elky> lol
[07:53] <Gary> damn you and your shorter nick elky 
[07:53] <Gary> :-)
[07:53] <Myrtti> Gary: you could have read "licks lips" wrong as well
[07:53] <Myrtti> "kicks hips"
[07:53] <Gary> Myrtti: well I did that too
[07:53] <Flannel> dips chips
[07:53] <Gary> oh, no I read it rudely
[07:53] <Myrtti> so did I
[07:53]  * Myrtti slaps herself, goes to work
[07:54] <elky> wheeeeeee, i finally ordered a new laptop
[07:54] <elky> taaaaaaaaaaasty specs
[07:54] <Gary> have a good day at work Myrtti 
[07:54] <Gary> elky: ooow, what make/model?
[07:54] <Myrtti> I'll try to have a fun day
[07:54] <Myrtti> I know I'll slip and IRC every once in a while
[07:55] <elky> Gary, dell vostro 1310
[07:55] <Gary> I put on a tight top today, blimey I feel so gay
[07:55]  * Myrtti started her day watching Bee Gees Staying Alive
[07:55] <Gary> ooow leather back
[07:57] <Gary> elky: they look good
[08:02] <elky> Gary, i got a good deal too http://pastebin.ca/1354230
[08:03] <elky> it's full of typical dell gibberish, but i took out all their token/code/reference numbers
[08:05] <Gary> shame the wifi is not draft n
[08:06] <elky> yeah, but i can remedy that another time i think
[08:06] <Gary> 4gb waaaam, nice
[08:06] <elky> yaaaaaah
[08:06] <Myrtti> Gary: a wifi is a wifi, imo as long as it has endurable fast wifi, it's good
[08:07] <Myrtti> what ticks me off is that so few mobile phones/laptops have bt2.0
[08:07] <Myrtti> s/endurable/endurably/
[08:08] <Gary> Myrtti: yeah, I was just saying, as at home, when I tested my wifi being locked to n only, it was so much faster than B,G+N mixed mode
[08:09] <Gary> but it's a ruddy good laptop, cpu might be classed as a little slow, but it's a smallish machine
[08:09] <Gary> and a lot better priced than my macbook 13" unibody
[08:09] <Myrtti> I guess I'm a boring person
[08:10] <Myrtti> just as with packed music, after a certain treshold I can't see the difference in quality of the music / speed of the internets
[08:10] <Myrtti> anything packed with better quality than 128kbit is a waste on me
[08:10] <elky> Gary, i dont mind the cpu being a little slow, since there's 2 of them, and they're both faster than this one which nearly never scales up when needed
[08:10] <Gary> oh, it's not internet speed I was interested in, it was backing up to my NAS box :p
[08:11] <Myrtti> Gary: internets != Internet ;-)
[08:11] <Gary> I'm a bit ocd about backups
[08:11] <Myrtti> my backups are incremental rsyncs, so their fast enough already
[08:12] <Myrtti> which reminds me that I should do my backups
[08:12] <elky> actually, they're both equally fast as this one, but there is 2 of them
[08:12] <elky> Gary, do scroll down to the battery section though
[08:12] <Myrtti> but in comparison to any wifi bluetooth1.0 is slow as a mule on morphine
[08:12] <Gary> elky: 13" is inho a great size for a laptop, I hate the 17"+ ones, get a desktop!
[08:13] <elky> Gary, 17" ones are not laptops. they're lap crushers.
[08:13] <Myrtti> and since I do like to use my laptop in my lap at places with no wifi and using mobile tethering, I'd *REALLY* want a fast bluetooth
[08:13] <Gary> elky: 9 cell, is that big? (/me knows nothing)
[08:13] <Myrtti> yes
[08:14] <Myrtti> most laptops are 6, I've seen el cheapos with 3
[08:14] <elky> Gary, default batteries are usually 3 or 4 cell for cheap laptops
[08:14] <Gary> what do you guess the runtime will be on it?
[08:14] <elky> 4-5hrs
[08:14] <elky> since i dont game, and i'll probably turn compositing off.
[08:14] <Gary> woo, I got 5.5 hours on my old macbook pro once, that was fantastic
[08:15] <Gary> shame you paid the windows tax on it :'(
[08:15] <elky> i might even get more, i really wont know until i've cycled the battery a few times
[08:15] <elky> Gary, a. dont have a choice. b. i have to lose my vista virginity eventually, it might as well be in the safety of my own home
[08:15]  * quassel251 is getting a touchbook :)
[08:15] <quassel251> oh crap again
[08:15] <elky> ooooh
[08:16] <elky> hehehe
[08:16] <jussi01> grr
[08:16] <Gary> haha
[08:16] <jussi01> soo
[08:16]  * jussi01 is getting a touchbook :)
[08:16] <jussi01> :D
[08:16] <topyli> jussi01: is quassel251 your trolling nick? :)
[08:16] <Gary> elky: good luck with it, I have vista at home, but it has not been booted (by me) for a year odd
[08:17] <jussi01> topyli: no, its the default nick while I wait for my db to get fixed...
[08:17] <Gary> jussi01: I use chipmonk for trollings :p
[08:17] <jussi01> Gary: you are a chipmunk...
[08:17] <jussi01> :P
[08:17] <jpds> What's Sam2 doing in #u?
[08:18] <Myrtti> I don't know, but I'm kicking him soon
[08:18] <elky> Gary, considering this craptop i type into now is 512mb ram, an almost-never-scaling 1.8mhz sempron, requires an external wifi adaptor, has a battery life of half an hour and input 'peripherals' that are starting to require belting around....
[08:18] <Gary> great reason there Myrtti 
[08:19] <jussi01> caps lock abuse!!
[08:19] <Myrtti> Gary: it's my new default. nicked it from someone
[08:19] <Gary> elky: how old is this current machine?
[08:19] <elky> i forget. i got it about 6 months before i went to UDS mt view in 2006 iirc.
[08:20] <elky> probably a bit later than 6mths before
[08:20] <elky> but it's 2.5 years and it was the cheapest non-acer laptop i could find.
[08:20] <Gary> wow, I think I am just a bit stupid on hardware then, my oldest machine is a mac mini, which sits under the telly as a media centre, bought in early 2007
[08:21] <elky> compaq v2627AU
[08:21] <Myrtti> ooh, compaq
[08:21] <Myrtti> so it's not shitty by default
[08:21] <Myrtti> probably quite good one for a laptop of it's age
[08:22] <Gary> I just sold my old july 2007 macbook pro to a work mate
[08:22] <elky> yeah, it wasnt crap, but it was the baseline cheapest model around at the time
[08:22] <elky> only cost me like AUD$800
[08:22] <Gary> the damn maniac paid in cash, so I think I am going to get mugged on the way home, as I cannot get to a bank here
[08:24] <elky> heh
[08:25] <Gary> it was nice to pass the machine onto someone who looks like they are turning into a well groomed macwhore (he also just bought a iphone)
[08:25] <Gary> also he is really interested in open source stuffs :-)
[08:26] <elky> do banks pike early in the UK too? many close like 4pm here, it's really annoying
[08:26] <Myrtti> ewwww macwhores...
[08:27] <Gary> I work in the middle of nowhere
[08:27] <elky> yeah, i'd only take a mac if it were given to me.
[08:27] <Gary> meh, I love my macs
[08:27] <elky> oh, i dont begrudge you. i just wouldn't pay that much for so little.
[08:27] <Gary> imho the build quality & design is super (yes it also costs waaay too much)
[08:28] <elky> i just cannot justify spending what they ask for, even if they have superior build quality. i'm quite happy to settle for the middle ground, which i've done.
[08:30] <elky> had i infinate money, i'd probably think differently, but i dont.
[08:31] <Gary> elky: well yeah, the money was not an issue (thank goodness) and when I was looking for a laptop I wanted "the best" (within reason, hence no sony)
[08:31] <elky> oh, and the benefit of buying from Dell SMB... "#Security Software       No Security Trialware"
[08:31] <Gary> yeah, woot, I'd still format their build and re-install though (hate OEM builds)
[08:32] <elky> hehe, the reinstall would probably have the trialware stuck on it somewhere anyway
[08:32] <Gary> I've seen some right messed up installs from OEM's (I am a IT support guy, and deal with probably thousands of installs a year)
[08:32] <elky> that's how hp/compaq do it
[08:32] <elky> hp/compaq only do recovery partitions :(
[08:33] <elky> dell include OEM discs at least iirc
[08:33] <Gary> hp include a standard windows install media, and a add-on dvd for the other rubbish
[08:33] <Gary> elky: the HP's we buy include DVD media
[08:33] <elky> Gary, not my two compaqs they didn't
[08:33] <Gary> maybe it's a option?
[08:33] <elky> this is also 2.5-4 years ago too
[08:33] <Gary> recovery partitions suck
[08:35] <elky> not an option for off-the-shelf in .au in my experience
[08:35] <elky> the UK/EU might differ there
[08:36] <Gary> it might be as we are classed as a large business/enterprise
[08:36] <elky> yeah, possibly
[08:37] <elky> 'you will include install media, or we will not buy those thousand desktops, kthxbai'
[08:37] <Gary> yeah, it does go like that sometimes
[08:38] <Gary> we had fun buying servers last year, "sell them to me at this price or i'll go elsewhere"
[08:39] <Gary> mind you, due to the stupid location, BT managed to rip us off for a £60K install for the data fibre
[08:39] <Gary> and took 8 months to install the ISDN30
[08:40] <elky> that's how telecommunications changes happen in australia. my boss knew the guy who initiated 'company bundles' here. walked into the biggest provider and said 'i want 1000 handsets, and one bill' .. they said no. walked into next biggest provider and said 'i want 1000 handsets and one bill, and $biggest_provider has already lost their chance' and so, company billing was born.
[08:40] <elky> or something like that anyway
[08:49] <Myrtti> [10:47] ~~~OnGaVeZyrKe 
[08:49] <Myrtti>           [i=5062b254@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-006415eb1af2a78d] has 
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[08:49] <Myrtti> [10:47] < OnGaVeZyrKe> IWe can provide tha war against the all of 
[08:49] <Myrtti>                        penguinfuckers irc channels and servers too
[08:49] <Myrtti> [10:48] ~~~mode/#xubuntu [+o Myrtti] by ChanServ
[08:49] <Myrtti> [10:48] ~~~OnGaVeZyrKe 
[08:49] <Myrtti>           [i=5062b254@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-006415eb1af2a78d] has 
[08:49] <Myrtti>           left #xubuntu [requested by Myrtti: "Please see 
[08:49] <Myrtti>           https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcTeam/AppealProcess if you feel 
[08:49] <Myrtti>           mistreated"]
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[08:49] <Myrtti> dear god, I hate irssi sometimes
[08:50] <Myrtti> normally it formats those pastes so nicely
[08:50] <Gary> another hungarian user!
[10:07] <Myrtti> unh
[10:55] <bazhang> oof
[10:55]  * bazhang floods ikonia 
[10:55] <bazhang> :)
[11:17] <bazhang> sounds like a 5th amendment plea: never to the best of my knowledge
[11:18] <ikonia> I don't understand why when you say "please do this" people come back with pointless bits of info "I have 2gig"
[11:18] <ikonia> or "I am using kubuntu"
[11:20] <ikonia> if she's not ead the instructions for a 3rd time after asking - I'll be frustrated
[11:24] <bazhang> amazing the patience you have shown thusfar
[11:39] <bazhang> tony403> it's very important to be able to use one hand
[11:39] <bazhang> trolling?
[11:48] <ikonia> see what happens
[12:21] <bazhang> heh
[12:22] <ikonia> @mark
[12:22] <ikonia> @mark #ubuntu tony403 placed on mute has he refuses to ackowledge any request to clam his langauge and attitude
[12:25] <ikonia> thats better, put a mute on properly
[12:25] <bazhang> pretty shocking how he escalated there
[12:26] <ikonia> bit out of the blue
[12:26] <bazhang> sorry was away having dinner
[12:26] <ikonia> no biggy
[12:52] <Myrtti> some day, probably not so far away, I'll lose my grip and kick every smartass/nosy ...
[13:27] <Myrtti> it's a pity the logs are sanitised so well
[13:28] <Myrtti> http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2009-03-06.log.html#t2009-03-06T02:41:00 no way to do something like this... (sorry, might be nsfw, and not suitable for weakminded)
[13:29] <Pici> I dont know what a basename is,.
[13:30] <Myrtti> I do, now.
[13:30] <Myrtti> basename pwd AND basename `/bin/bash`
[13:30] <Myrtti> or whatever...
[13:30] <Myrtti> doing basename pwd with plain sed is painful
 common solutions for 500  <--jeopardy?
[15:03] <Pici> So.
[15:04] <LjL> is anyone here normally using clients that are not xchat, xchat-gnome, quassel or irssi?
[15:04] <Myrtti> I sometimes use mirggi
[15:04] <Myrtti> it has been months though
[15:05] <Myrtti> my irc addiction has relieved to a state I don't need to IRC from my phone
[15:06] <LjL> Myrtti: my irc addiction has relieved to a state I don't need to bring my eeepc with me when i'm relieving myself
[15:08] <LjL> or is that !tmi
[15:08] <Myrtti> I hope nobody uses pidgin...
[15:08] <Pici> Nobody should use pidgin ever.
[15:09] <Pici> Er, for IRC.
[15:22] <Myrtti> I've been thinking of trying ERC though
[15:30] <myrtti-erc> funky
[15:32] <genii-around> Heh
[15:33] <myrtti-erc> it's cute with pink_bliss.el, too!
[15:33] <Myrtti> [17:33] [freenode] CTCP VERSION reply from myrtti-erc: ERC Version 5.3 - an  IRC client for emacs (http://emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki/ERC  (mailing list: erc-discuss@gnu.org))
[15:33] <Myrtti> :-D
[15:34] <LjL> i might switch to emacs
[15:34] <LjL> i'm not fond of kde 4, and gnome just doesn't like me
[15:36] <myrtti-erc> this looks really nice to use, but I wouldn't switch from irssi
[15:36] <myrtti-erc> I don't know if I have patience to learn it
[16:01] <ZOMGALLCAPS> Hi
[16:01] <ZOMGALLCAPS> please unban me from Ubuntu off topic
[16:02] <ZOMGALLCAPS> i will be good
[16:02] <ZOMGALLCAPS> i promise i shall not "troll os x" again
[16:02] <ZOMGALLCAPS> nevermind
[16:02] <ikonia> idiot
[16:02] <ikonia> what a wate of time troll
[16:09] <urgreat> hey
[16:09] <urgreat> :|
[16:09] <urgreat> asjo;asj
[16:09] <ikonia> urgreat: how can we help
[16:09] <ikonia> or should I say rohan
[16:09] <ikonia> again
[16:09] <LjL> bad quit message
[16:09] <Myrtti> urgreat: how about you change your quit message...
[16:09] <ikonia> rohan is a known pain
[16:26] <quassel251__> ikonia: ping
[16:26] <quassel251__> grr
[16:26] <ikonia> hello
[16:40] <LjL> jussi01, ubottu might be gone (or at least seriously lagging) again
[16:41] <LjL> also jussi01, could you err, reset my password for the APT site account?
[16:44] <LjL> oh, nevermind the bot thing then i guess
[16:44] <LjL> strangely, i didn't see this one coming
[16:49] <LjL> wha
[16:49] <LjL> hubbard just nick collided me
[16:50] <LjL-Hubbard> for the third time - damn server - jussi01, i was saying, could you reset my password on the apt site account? i think i've been smart and picked one that isn't one of my common passwords
[16:56] <stdin> LjL-Hubbard: for ssh?
[16:56] <LjL> stdin: yeah. i think you changed the fingerprint too?
[16:57] <stdin> the fingerprint changed when the server changed
[16:57] <LjL> ah
[16:57] <LjL> well anyway i just don't remember the password. i'm ashamed to say it, but that's how it is.
[16:58] <stdin> see /msg :)
[17:09] <LjL> !aptoncd
[17:09] <LjL> !offline
[17:09] <LjL> !no offline is <reply> If you need to download Ubuntu packages using another machine or OS, check the desired packages in Synaptic and select File > Generate package download script. Alternatively, try http://apt.alturl.com/ - See also !APTonCD
[17:09] <LjL> !no aptoncd is <reply> APTonCD is a tool with a graphical interface which allows you to create one or more CDs or DVDs with all of the packages you've downloaded via apt-get or aptitude, creating a removable repository that you can use on other computers - See also !offline
[17:10] <Myrtti>  how to keep an idiot occupied
[17:10] <Myrtti> :-D
[17:11] <LjL> ¡recursion is <reply> See !recursion
[17:11] <jussi01> haha
[17:11] <Myrtti> !recursion
[17:11] <Myrtti> damnit
[17:11] <Myrtti> I was sure there was one already
[17:11] <Pici> !recursion-#ubuntu-offtopic
[17:12] <Myrtti> *snigger*
[17:12] <LjL> you beat me
[17:12] <LjL> also
[17:12] <LjL> !recursive
[17:12] <Pici> oho
[17:12] <LjL> maybe *that* one could be done away with
[17:17] <Myrtti> hmmm
[17:17] <Myrtti> those need to be linked together
[17:17] <Myrtti> so !recursion would point to !recursive and vice versa
[17:18] <Myrtti> then it would be a proper one
[17:18] <Myrtti> :-P
[17:18] <jdong> (map (reduce .... 
[17:18] <jdong> :P
[17:23] <jussi01> Seeker`: ping
[17:30] <shadeslayer> uh hi i cant get into #ubuntu
[17:30] <shadeslayer> i havent done something wrong have i??
[17:30] <shadeslayer> :(
[17:32] <Pici> shadeslayer: one moment
[17:32] <shadeslayer> thank you
[17:32] <jussi01> stdin: ping
[17:32] <stdin> jussi01: pong
[17:32] <Pici> bansearch is failing
[17:32] <shadeslayer> :) you guys playing ping pong??
[17:33] <stdin> hmm "Connection is closed"...
[17:33] <shadeslayer> maybe because i have a dynamic IP
[17:33] <jussi01> stdin: see Pici's comment
[17:33] <stdin> @reload Bantracker
[17:33] <Pici> LjL: Ping
[17:33] <stdin> it'll take a few mins for bansearch to come back
[17:33] <shadeslayer> ok
[17:33] <stdin> but the tracker should be up
[17:33] <Pici> stdin: it worked immediately for me
[17:34] <Myrtti> I just used the old login
[17:34] <stdin> Pici: that's because I get the warnings :)
[17:34] <shadeslayer> i have no idea why i was banned tho :)
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[17:34] <Pici> shadeslayer: I've asked the operator that banned you to address the issue.
[17:34] <shadeslayer> ok
[17:42] <LjL> shadeslayer: you shouldn't be banned at this time
[17:42] <shadeslayer> ok
[17:42] <shadeslayer> ill try
[17:42] <shadeslayer> :)
[17:42] <Pici> LjL: *!*@122.163.103.227
[17:42] <shadeslayer> nope
[17:42] <shadeslayer> ah i have that IP right now i think
[17:43] <shadeslayer> ><
[17:43] <LjL> Pici: oh... was using another nick
[17:43] <shadeslayer> airtel my ISP changed my IP today
[17:43] <shadeslayer> new username and pass as i was experiencing problems
[17:44] <shadeslayer> still cant get in
[17:44] <LjL> shadeslayer: yes, there is a ban indeed
[17:45] <shadeslayer> lol
[17:45] <LjL> shadeslayer: i don't currently believe you're not the same person who was banned
[17:45] <shadeslayer> why??
[17:45] <LjL> shadeslayer: it would be an extremely unlikely coincidence.
[17:45] <shadeslayer> well you see my ISP changed my IP and username and pass today
[17:45] <shadeslayer> i was experiencing problems yesterday
[17:46] <LjL> i've set that ban today.
[17:46] <shadeslayer> yeah so they changed it today
[17:46] <shadeslayer> i only connected to the net about 2 hours ago
[17:46] <LjL> i set that ban today, 1:30 hours ago
[17:46] <shadeslayer> hmm
[17:47] <shadeslayer> so what should i do??
[17:47] <shadeslayer> coz i didnt do anything
[17:47] <shadeslayer> one sec
[17:47] <LjL> shadeslayer: i believe you should refrain from using freenode unaffiliated cloaks in order to evade bans. i believe freenode staff doesn't approve of that practice.
[17:48] <shadeslayer> well i have a cloak since what a month
[17:48] <shadeslayer> i dont ever use it evade bans
[17:48] <shadeslayer> *to
[17:48] <LjL> shadeslayer: you weren't using a cloak when you were urgreat.
[17:48] <shadeslayer> who??
[17:48] <LjL> shadeslayer: you know who.
[17:48] <shadeslayer> uh no
[17:48] <LjL> uh yes
[17:49] <shadeslayer> come on
[17:49] <shadeslayer> i was shadeslayer and was talking to ikonia i think
[17:49] <shadeslayer> someone had problems updating their kernel
[17:50] <shadeslayer> OMG does this mean smeone hacked my Wifi??
[17:50] <LjL> no
[17:50] <shadeslayer> then??
[17:50] <LjL> it means you think you're fooling me but you are not.
[17:51] <shadeslayer> one sec call
[17:54] <shadeslayer> yeah so what should i do now?? even when i have done nothing??
[17:55] <shadeslayer> go away??
[17:55] <LjL> shadeslayer: yes, i think you should just go away, because i really think you won't convince me you have done nothing. i have more than enough evidence it's you.
[17:56] <shadeslayer> but it wasnt me !
[17:56] <shadeslayer> ok ill go away
[17:56] <shadeslayer> any idea if i can ever enter again??
[17:56] <LjL> shadeslayer: ok, it wasn't you - then you still have *three* complaints logged against "you" ("you" as in "shadeslayer").
[17:56] <LjL> that's more than enough for a ban anyway.
[17:56] <shadeslayer> whaaat
[17:56] <LjL> bans will be reviewed.
[17:56] <shadeslayer> by whom??
[17:57] <shadeslayer> who complained against me??
[17:57] <shadeslayer> i know i was banned from #freenode
[17:57] <LjL> by us, and that information is not for disclosure
[17:57] <shadeslayer> but thats it
[17:57] <shadeslayer> oh ok
[17:57] <shadeslayer> ill go
[17:57] <shadeslayer> thank you anyways
[17:58] <shadeslayer> :)
[17:58] <LjL> there's a mark about him in the bt.
[18:02] <Pici> Banned from #freenode... hrm
[18:02] <Gary> he isn't
[18:02] <Pici> Ever?
[18:02] <Gary> oh, might have been
[18:03] <LjL> Gary: note i actually just banforwarded "him" because he had "fuck you" as quit message
[18:04] <LjL> if he had just come in with the nickname and IP he used and asked... i'd have unbanned
[18:04] <LjL> talk about self-screwing
[18:39] <Seeker`> jussi01: pong
[18:43] <Pici> jrib: you banned the wrong person methinks
[18:49] <jrib> Pici: DCEmu_user01 ?
[18:49] <Pici> jrib: yeah
[18:50] <LjL> i'm not sure... as he was just k-lined
[18:55]  * genii sips and dances joyfully
[19:10] <Myrtti> !uds
[19:12]  * jussi01 wonders if he will get sponsored...
[19:12]  * Myrtti had an idea about uds, wondering if I should blog
[19:14] <Daviey> pink ponies?
[19:16] <jussi01> pink netbooks for everyone?
[19:16] <jussi01> :P
[19:16] <Myrtti> it's probably a stupid idea
[19:16] <jussi01> Myrtti: meh, tell us
[19:16] <Myrtti> and I don't know a thing about uds, so it might be impossible to make true
[19:17] <Myrtti> jussi01, Daviey: http://paste.ubuntu.com/127370/
[19:17] <jussi01> Myrtti: kerro minulle!
[19:17] <jussi01> :D
[19:17] <Myrtti> ♥ 
[19:18]  * Myrtti goes to upload pictures of her dinner
[19:19] <Daviey> crikey, not heard of that before
[19:25] <Mez> Dinnerblogging?
[19:29] <Myrtti> Mez: no, not really. The only dinnerblog I make is my flickr stream
[19:29] <Myrtti> and today has been a day of adventurous cooking. http://www.flickr.com/photos/myrtti/archives/date-posted/2009/03/06/
[19:37] <Myrtti> ugh. Ubuntu member that hangs out at you know where
[19:38] <nickrud> Inclusiveness. Priceless
[19:39] <jussi01> bleh
[19:39] <Myrtti> I want to see the meeting logs
[19:40] <nickrud> logs? Logs are evil, the inhibit the free flow of insu^wideas
[19:40] <nickrud> s/the/they/
[19:54] <Myrtti> I find it a bit rude that he's all "I want my cloak now"
[19:58] <jussi01> yeah... bit pushy
[20:07] <Pici> argh
[20:07] <jpds> Myrtti++
[20:18] <jpds> Myrtti: You don't have to look far: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2009/03/06/%23ubuntu-meeting.html
[20:18] <Myrtti> yeah I did
[20:19] <Myrtti> waaaay ahead of you
[20:36] <LjL> Myrtti: and what's wrong with hanging out you know where? we've all been encouraged to in the ubuntu newsletter!
[20:37] <Myrtti> LjL: nothing wrong, his a bit pushy attitude just caught my eye
[20:37] <Myrtti> sorry
[20:38]  * Myrtti hides and shuts up
[20:54]  * genii hides and sips
[20:59] <jpds> !br
[21:00] <jpds> We need to add a note about English only to that.
[21:03] <LjL> jpds: if they don't want to understand they should go to the relevant channel, they just won't
[21:03] <LjL> anyway, you can ask jrib
[21:05] <LjL> Myrtti: so why aren't you in there? it is doing a bang up job acting as a bridge for people outside of our Ubuntu community. be sure to drop in and say hello. You'll be glad you did.
[21:06] <Pici> Which channel aren't we talking about?
[21:06] <LjL> Pici: ooooh... it's...
[21:06] <LjL> Pici: the name escapes me
[21:08] <Myrtti> LjL: I've got plenty of IRC channels to ignore as of now already, thanks.
[21:26] <Amaranth> *sigh*
[21:26] <Amaranth> jannis needs to push more often
[21:26] <Amaranth> whoops, wrong channel
[21:28] <LjL> Myrtti: but it has grown to over 100 members! and they were the #1 team, among all teams, that participated in Global Bug Jam 2008
[21:43] <Myrtti> LjL: as I also suspect that ASUS-tek and couple of other creepy people are there, I'd rather chew my arm off than join
[21:45] <LjL> Myrtti: chewing your arm actually helps the community!
[21:45] <Myrtti> LjL: I'm *NOT* going to join a channel full of (potential) cyberstalkers.
[21:46] <Myrtti> I've got enough of them already
[21:47] <Gary> cool, me too
[21:47] <Gary> I <3 my stalkers
[21:47] <pleia2> Myrtti: wise choice, I left after a particularly frustrating and very sexist incident
[21:47] <Gary> what channel is sexist?
[21:48] <pleia2> I wouldn't say "they are sexist" but I'm referring to ##club-ubuntu
[21:49] <pleia2> they just don't adhere very closely to the CoC
[21:49] <Myrtti> if at all
[21:49] <Gary> oh dear, I ain't joining
[21:50]  * pleia2 was trying to be generous :)
[21:50] <pleia2> it's run by a woman, but she's the thick-skinned type who doesn't care if people are offensive
[21:50]  * pleia2 shrugs
[21:51] <pleia2> some people like that :) I just avoid it
[21:52] <Gary> can I "no comment" ?
[21:55] <LjL> Gary: no, you're bound to comment now. you were the one triggering an explicit mention in the channel name to begin with.
[21:55] <Gary> yeah, sorry, wish I had not, it gave me a headache last year
[21:59] <Myrtti> I wish I had been quiet as well
[22:00] <LjL> Myrtti: but being quiet doesn't help the community! you must SPREAD THE WORD!
[22:01] <LjL> Myrtti: also, you can mute me if you like
[22:03] <Myrtti> why would I mute you, you run/code the floodbots and actually do something useful and contribute to the community, while I make poor decisions and my logic in channel management has been questioned with my capability of handling stress and difficult discussions...
[22:04] <Myrtti> meh.
[22:04]  * Myrtti goes to knit
[22:04] <LjL> it's the coffee, i'm sure
[22:05] <pleia2> oh, my bad :)
[22:05]  * Gary hugs Myrtti 
[22:41]  * nickrud sends deep dark chocolate and high grade coffee and premier liquors in Myrtii's direction, along with a few choice obscenities for later application in appropriate situations
[23:03] <nickrud> oh, it fell out of the package: a sharpener for that furry/fuzzy pencil of doom thing
[23:21] <bazhang> wondering about shadeslayer; there is sometimes a user in #debian named sh4d3s1ay3R (or quite similar) who has often discussed trolling #ubuntu channels, how bad Ubuntu is, etc. still need to find the IP address and exact nick
[23:22] <jussi01> he seems ok'ish in #k most of the time...
[23:22] <jussi01> Gary: you around?
[23:22] <LjL> bazhang: you see the stuff about shadeslayer ealier here i guess?
[23:23] <bazhang> LjL, yes, and held back at earlier behaviour in #ubuntu (when he was simply shadeslayer) as it was borderline seeking help, but a bit dodgy
[23:24] <LjL> bazhang: quite borderline yes, just about what a troll who knows his stuff should be
[23:25] <bazhang> stuff like how do I make my LED lights act as a signal for email received or something similar, how do I completely underclock my video card automatically via software controls in ubuntu, and the like
[23:25] <bazhang> LjL, good point
[23:25] <LjL> my logs from #debian have a big gap, but i'll check them too anyway
[23:26] <bazhang> reminded me of psufan wanting to install ubuntu to replace car management system via midi port in bmw
[23:27] <bazhang> pretended not to speak English well, be not bright, then was banned in #ubuntu and u-ot; saw him doing exact same in #debian and when called on it he had perfect syntax in cussing me out
[23:28] <LjL> bazhang: it's probably him, ip subnet mostly matches
[23:29] <LjL> sh4d3sl4y3r (with or without a trailing underscore) is the nick
[23:29] <bazhang> LjL, okay; got the info from a long-time ubuntu user who is very well trusted/helpful, then checked myself and saw the same user there
[23:29] <bazhang> yep
[23:30] <LjL> @mark sh4d3sl4y3r shadeslayer