/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2009/03/06/#ubuntu-testing.txt

aragood morning all :-)06:52
doomikHello10:01
arahey doomik10:15
doomikthe testing distro will be available at 9 March ?10:16
aradoomik: what do you mean by testing distro?11:10
davmor2doomik: We will be smoke testing the various desktops on the 9th of march11:13
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sbeattiedavmor2: are you not smoketesting on a daily basis anymore?14:40
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stgrabersbeattie: ping, small question about the SRU process :) around ?16:52
sbeattiestgraber: ask away.16:52
stgrabersbeattie: I'm looking at bug 290399 and it seems that they're waiting for an approval before getting the package uploaded to -proposed16:54
ubot4Launchpad bug 290399 in redhat-cluster "After ran the command fence_tool dump, the fenced process will take 100% CPU usage" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/29039916:54
stgraberthough looking at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates the process seems to be to uploaded to -proposed then get the archive admins validate it16:54
stgraberand then do the usual QA to get it uploaded to -updates after validation16:54
sbeattiestgraber: hrm, according to zul's comment, he uploaded it. Is that not the case?16:56
stgrabernope16:56
stgrabernot in the queue and not in -proposed16:56
sbeattiehrm, well, the SRU team can't accept it until there's an upload. Wonder what happened there.16:58
* sbeattie goes to read the scrollback in #ubuntu-server as well.16:58
apwcr3 who normally does checkbox releases?16:59
cr3apw: I've mostly done them but schwuk could handle them as well, what's up?16:59
apwwas trying to get a feel for how often they get pushed, if there is a schedule etc17:00
apwas i am carrying stuff in there now :)  want to get a feel for when it goes out17:00
apwalso ... is checkbox in the desktop seed now, will it be on by defualt?17:00
cr3apw: no schedule, we just try to pack as much in there as possible before the release :)17:00
cr3apw: should be on by default on desktop indeed17:01
apwwill there be another releaase before beta ships?17:01
cr3apw: yes17:01
apwcool, check with me that i've shoved all the suspend_test stuff in would you ... if we do a public call for testing it would make sense to use the version installed on the machine if its there17:02
cr3apw: will do17:02
apwcr3, on another note, did you have any thoughts on the test with output issue?17:02
sbeattiecr3: given the changes since 0.5, should probably do an upload before a6.17:02
apwalpha6 is next thursday right?17:03
cr3sbeattie: that would be the responsible thing to do :)17:03
cr3apw: yeah, I'd really like to be able to see test output in the interface. I'll try to get it done before beta17:03
apwso cool.  i'll make sure my stuff is pushed up by the end of monday.  its probabally done already17:03
sbeattiecr3: ah, I stand corrected, I'll not expect an upload until the beta then. :-)17:03
* sbeattie ducks17:04
cr3sbeattie: you know me too well :)17:04
apwcr3 cool.  its a bit of a blocker for shipping any of the suspend tests run from checkbox imo17:04
apwnot that it is stopping any testing as we have the direct interface right now17:04
apwso a blocker, but not an issue if that makes any sense17:05
cr3apw: noted, I'll give it top after hours priority :)17:05
apwheheh ... also have you thought about continuing after a crash?17:05
sbeattiecr3: BTW, re bug 324215, it's only an issue due to the package transition correct? My attempts to trigger the purge failure on hardy and intrepid were unsuccessful.17:06
ubot4Launchpad bug 324215 in checkbox "hwtest-gtk fails to uninstall if hwtest is no longer installed" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/32421517:06
sbeattie... because hwtest-gtk and hwtest-cli would get uninstalled before hwtest, at least via apt.17:06
cr3sbeattie: right, and I was making crappy assumptions in my debian *rm scripts17:07
cr3apw: I've thought about it, but I'm still not sure about the user experience in those circumstances17:08
sbeattiecr3: if not, we could push an SRU; I went ahead and cherry-picked the relevant bits here: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~sbeattie/checkbox/lp324215/revision/29517:08
apwcr3, pretty much any test which does suspend or hibernate and doesn't come back could do with some way for the user to say "continue"17:08
cr3apw: should checkbox just start from where it left off? should the user be prompted for all the tests again, but having them prefilled with previous values?17:08
apwand get the same box up with 'FAILED' delected17:08
apwi would continue from the same place if possible17:09
apwin autotest we do that by freezeing the state machine and reloading it between tests17:09
cr3apw: anything is possible, I'm just wondering what would be correct. are there other applications like this which behave in a similar fashion?17:10
cr3apw: for example, firefox prompts the user to recover tabs or somesuch, so should checkbox also provide the same dialog17:10
apwyeah 'continnue you existing test run?'17:10
apwwould be reasonable, i would then like it to jump to the right test again17:10
cr3sbeattie: if you could sru that cherry pick, that'd be really awesome!17:11
cr3sbeattie: by the way, as long as you're sru'ing checkbox, I think there's another bug I'd like to verify... one moment17:11
cr3apw: right, it's details like that which are mostly stopping me17:12
cr3apw: I could also have a check box saying "don't remind me again" or somesuch, still like in firefox17:12
cr3apw: when I implement new features, I try not to invent too much and rely on precedent from other applications which might be already familiar to users17:13
apwsensible enough17:13
cr3apw: just to be sure, your priority would be viewing output before recovery, right?17:13
apwi would thing a dialog that says " you were mid-test" with "continue test", "scrap test", "ignore test" sort fo thing17:14
cr3sbeattie: I'd also like to sru bug #323284, especially since dapper is nearing eol17:14
ubot4Launchpad bug 323284 in hwtest "hwtest installation fails with dapper version of debconf" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/32328417:14
apwyeah output is mroe important as apport will report failurs for us right now17:14
cr3sbeattie: I haven't had time to reproduce the problem though, so I don't have a fix17:15
sbeattiecr3: okay, I'll peek.17:15
davmor2sbeattie: sorry I was off this afternoon so no testing today.  Monday was testing day.  Iwas busy most days so I have tested just not logged.  I'll do that for you after :) Kubuntu and server yesterday ubuntu for bluetooth and installer plus wubi the others17:41
sbeattiedavmor2: okay, I was more curious than anything.17:42
davmor2sbeattie: that should look better :)18:07
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