[00:00] <austin> I'm running a ubuntu server and would like to incorperate a forum into my website....can anyone help?
[00:00] <ChrisW> ActionParsnip: SiS 771/671 PCIE VGA Display Adapter (rev 10)
[00:00] <dotblank> ChrisW: you can use pastebin and paste multiple lines
[00:00] <darktemplar> did u tried synaptic package manager .. it worked 4 me with nvidia drivers
[00:00] <ActionParsnip> AshKyd: check system logs for some clues: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LinuxLogFiles
[00:00] <fsufitch> hi. i need some help. when i booted my computer a couple hours ago, X always hanged when it was to start. removing the restricted nvidia drivers made it run again, but now i can't get the drivers to work again. anyone got ideas?
[00:01] <_Whipper__> How do u reboot, if u dont know the root password, and have lost even your own? and no touching the power-button :)?
[00:01] <jgood> _VIM_, alt CD download and burned, putting it in the machine now
[00:01] <Scunizi> I'm trying to access a shared folder (~/Desktop) however when I try and it asks me for the user name and password the error is "The credentials supplied conflict with an existing set of credentials".  How do I fix this?
[00:01] <NDS|Brandon> !dualboot
[00:01] <dotblank> ChrisW: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=958967
[00:01] <jrib> _Whipper__: you can reboot from the gdm screen
[00:01] <dotblank> ChrisW: seems you arn't alone
[00:02] <kane77> hi, on my laptop I tried to enable magnifier in compizconfig and it said it needs to enable mouse polling so I enabled that and that restarted X.. now I cannot login.. it logs me in but restarts x, how do I disable compiz (or compiz) from command line? can anyone help me? I need my laptop functional ;)
[00:02] <_Whipper__> jrib: nope, disabled :)
[00:02] <jrib> _Whipper__: why are you in this sitation?
[00:02] <ActionParsnip> ChrisW: http://ubuntu-virginia.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=958967&page=3
[00:02] <jrib> situation even
[00:03] <AshKyd> ActionParsnip: It’s running on the command line, not via a web server so I don’t think it actually is logging. I’ll see if I can make it verbose, otherwise I’ll run it through Lighttpd. Cheers. :)
[00:03] <_Whipper__> jrib: im not, just getting to know u guys and your skills :)
[00:03] <darktemplar> did any of you played left 4 dead on ubuntu amd64??
[00:04] <jrib> _Whipper__: ... so how would you?
[00:04] <dotblank> kane77: "rm ~/.gconf/desktop/gnome/session/required_components/*"
[00:04] <_Whipper__> kane77: install, or try some work-around.. depends on your machinae..
[00:04] <kane77> dotblank, thank you I will try that
[00:05] <_VIM_> _Whipper__: you didnt tell me xara xtreme isn't free! :P :P :P   bah!
[00:05] <Pollywog> Lyx is not working for me in Hardy though it does in Intrepid.  Has anyone else seen the same ?
[00:05] <_Whipper__> jrib: ill answer u in a bit, if anyone else doesnt :)
[00:06] <dotblank> kane77: if you can't get to gdm you may have to modify your xorg.conf file
[00:06] <fsufitch> hi. i need some help. when i booted my computer a couple hours ago, X always hanged when it was to start. removing the restricted nvidia drivers made it run again, but now i can't get the drivers to work again. anyone got ideas?
[00:06] <_Whipper__> VIM: it certainly IS free
[00:06] <SineDeviance> i want to record from the line-in on my soundcard. i'd like to record directly to .ogg if possiblke
[00:06] <SineDeviance> whats a good app to use for this?
[00:06] <_VIM_> _Whipper__: hmmm it's not in the repos so i went to their site and its only Trial
[00:06] <NDS|Brandon> :/
[00:06] <NDS|Brandon> Is this legal? https://shipit.ubuntu.com/login
[00:06] <_VIM_> _Whipper__: unless im spelling it wrong?
[00:06] <sebsebseb> ok so a guys wireless didn't work in Ubuntu,   but on the Mandriva Live CD it did just like that.  so  why not in Ubuntu?
[00:07] <_Whipper__> VIM: nope, its FREEWARE, aka libertas.. something :)
[00:07] <kane77> dotblank, I get to login screen, but when I login for a while it shows desktop (about 2 sec) but then displays black screen with pointer and restarts
[00:07] <DasE1> SineDeviance: audacity is good for ripping, and there are several converters, not sure ogg<> audac.
[00:07] <ubuntu_> aaa
[00:07] <dotblank> kane77: ok then the command i gave you might work
[00:07] <ActionParsnip> SineDeviance: sound-recorder
[00:07] <SineDeviance> DasE1, i didnt say i wanted to rip, i said i want to RECORD :D
[00:07] <ActionParsnip> !info sound-recorder
[00:07] <_Whipper__> VIM: ill check that again..
[00:07] <SineDeviance> ActionParsnip, thanks
[00:07] <_VIM_> ActionParsnip: do you sleep? you're more active than ubottu hehe
[00:08] <dotblank> kane77: if that doesn't work try "rm -r ~.gconf/*"
[00:08] <NDS|Brandon> :| I cant get Ubuntu Working
[00:08] <NDS|Brandon> Ive tried liek everything
[00:09] <hacker_kid> is there a program to print to an image like a jpeg?
[00:09] <dotblank> hacker_kid: yes
[00:09] <hacker_kid> dotblank, got the name for me?
[00:09] <ActionParsnip> _VIM_: from 1am til 7am then 4pm til 6pm
[00:09] <dotblank> hacker_kid: its already installed and it can save as pdf.
[00:10] <kane77> dotblank, thanks I've been able to get in now :)
[00:10] <ActionParsnip> _VIM_: i kinda catnaap than a big sleep
[00:10] <hacker_kid> dotblank, i need to save as an image, jpeg is prefered
[00:10] <_VIM_> sounds like my schedule ActionParsnip :)
[00:10] <NDS|Brandon> fuuuuuu
[00:10] <FFighter> hello
[00:10] <NDS|Brandon> Ubuntu Hates me :\
[00:10] <SineDeviance> ActionParsnip, exactly what i was looking for, thanks a bunch!
[00:10] <FFighter> how do I get the java plugin working in FF under Ubuntu 8.10?
[00:10] <sprinkmeier_> hacker_kid, just about anything that will display it (eog, ff, gimp, ....) should be able to print it.
[00:10] <FFighter> what package should I install?
[00:11] <FFighter> any ideas?
[00:11] <hacker_kid> sprinkmeier_, thats not what im saying, if i hit print in an application i can choose "Print to File" to save as a pdf or postscript. i need to save as a jpeg
[00:11] <ActionParsnip> sebsebseb: mandriva is a different distro and uses rpm instead of deb so its different. there will be different apps and packages on the cd so it may just drop in for some drivers but not others
[00:11] <emil> @FFighter hi
[00:11] <_VIM_> FFighter: sudo apt-get ubuntu-restricted-exras should do it.
[00:11] <LaNCeloT_RW> [LinMint-Cholo]: pvt msgs
[00:11] <_VIM_> oops forgot install*
[00:11] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: yeah that's basically what I thought
[00:11] <FFighter> _VIM_, thanks!
[00:12] <sprinkmeier_> hacker_kid, ok... misunderstood question. Save as  PDF, then chain pdftoppm and ppmtojpeg together
[00:12] <dotblank> hacker_kid: "convert in.pdf out.jpg" will work
[00:12] <killme101> hello. can someone help me with a problem with X that has me stumped?
[00:12] <hacker_kid> dotblank, ty
[00:13] <_Whipper__> now i no the reason for my lap-top over-heating.. continuesly searching for wireless network.. how the f**k i missed that..
[00:13] <dux0r> man, firefox crashes assloads in ubuntu
[00:13] <dux0r> =/
[00:14] <Dr_willis_AAO> i never have firefox crashes here...
[00:14] <_VIM_> Opera ftw
[00:14] <ActionParsnip> !ask | killme101
[00:14] <dux0r> wonder what im doin wrong =/
[00:14] <ActionParsnip> _VIM_: +1 for opera
[00:14] <sebsebseb> dux0r: indeed  it can do I get problems to
[00:14] <sebsebseb> dux0r: Ubuntu's version is also not offical
[00:14] <Scunizi> I'm trying to install ebox but there is an unmet dependancy and suggests checking to make sure all the repos are checked.. (libapache-authcookie-perl). all but backports, proposed and partner are checked.. what's up with this?
[00:14] <sebsebseb> dux0r: how much RAM you got?
[00:14] <dux0r> 1gig i think
[00:15] <sebsebseb> dux0r: ok same here, and that's our issue I think
[00:15] <sebsebseb> dux0r: Firefox can memory leak and even be bad on 2GB at times
[00:15] <_VIM_> ActionParsnip: yeah only a few java bugs in opera such as Googles Notebook buttons no workie, but else it's great
[00:15] <keres> !hfs
[00:15] <weah> ??
[00:15] <keres> anyone know how to mount an hfs partition?
[00:15] <ActionParsnip> _VIM_: shame everyone is firefox brainwashed
[00:15] <weah> bb
[00:15] <_VIM_> yep
[00:15] <Scunizi> ActionParsnip: what do you like better?
[00:15] <_Whipper__> Gparted
[00:15] <_VIM_> ActionParsnip: it doesnt help that FF is default in Ubuntu
[00:15] <sprinkmeier_> dux0r, FF plugins can also cause problems (memory leaks etc).
[00:15] <ActionParsnip> Scunizi: opera
[00:16] <dux0r> opera should advertise more
[00:16] <ActionParsnip> _VIM_: not in kubuntu, its konqueror there
[00:16] <Scunizi> ActionParsnip: ah.. yea.. I like opera too..
[00:16] <_VIM_> yeah
[00:16] <sebsebseb> dux0r: yes you can run Opera in Ubuntu, as well as other nice browsers
[00:16] <dux0r> yeah, i mostly use opera
[00:16] <ActionParsnip> _VIM_: and if you do install it it pulls in a tonne of gnome fluff
[00:16] <dotblank> Firefox is fine, have no issues with it
[00:16] <sprinkmeier_> sebastien, never had links crash on me....
[00:17] <_Whipper__> im running Opera on my N96, and its way better than anything else ive tried..
[00:17] <Scunizi> anyone know why there are unmet dependancies when using synaptic to install ebox?
[00:17] <cabl3n3k3> I've encountered more security flaws in Opera than Firefox in my own experience.
[00:17] <sebsebseb> dux0r: Galeon, Epiphany (sudo apt-get install epiphany-browser or you get some game)  and  Konqueror are all worth having.   maybe even dilo for that matter as well
[00:17] <ChrisW> hmm, okay, so some manual hacking of xorg.conf and I have some sane monitor res's (*why* do I need to do this?!)
[00:17] <sebsebseb> sprinkmeier_: heh yeah, but that's text only.  oh and you know about  Links as well?
[00:17] <Dr_willis_AAO> Scunizi,  last i heard - ebox was broken on ubuntu for some reason
[00:17] <ChrisW> now, I have wifi problems
[00:17] <dux0r> i think i tried konqueror years ago
[00:17] <killme101> so today i booted to see X not working at all (after the ubuntu load bar thing, just black). in recovery mode i told it to fix X and it disabled my restricted nvidia drivers and it worked. then, i wanted to reenable the drivers. they didn't show at all in System>Administration>Hardware Drivers, so i just apt-get installed nvidia-glx-173 (the one i was using before this  happened). now X won't start at all, saying the configuration is wrong, and o
[00:18] <Scunizi> Dr_willis_AAO: figures.. even swat doesn't work for me
[00:18] <sprinkmeier_> sebastien, text only? that's what aalib is for...
[00:18] <_Whipper__> <cabl3n3k:such as?
[00:18] <killme101> only gives me a tty instead. does anyone know a way to fix this? if not, i'm  seriously considering back to windows for good because of crap like this happening way too often.
[00:18] <dotblank> Scunizi: it means that you may have to update your package lists or make sure you have all repository. if you can't find it that way try google
[00:18] <ChrisW> seems to connect fine when I provide the wep key as requested, but I don't appear to actually be able to use the connection
[00:18] <sebsebseb> dux0r: ah yes and then Seamonkey :)   Mozilla Suite was a marketting failure, so along comes Firefox,  but for those that liked the Mozilla Suite which is no longer suppourted, they can use Seamonkey
[00:18] <killme101> (sorry, i got cut off by irssi)
[00:18] <ChrisW> not even a ping to the gateway
[00:18] <sebsebseb> dux0r: the code lived in by the community as Seamonkey
[00:18] <ChrisW> any ideas?
[00:18] <sebsebseb> lived on
[00:18] <ActionParsnip> killme101: is yur card supported by the 173?
[00:19] <killme101> ActionParsnip: since it worked for a few months until today using 173, i would think it is
[00:19] <ActionParsnip> ChrisW: did you select the right type of WEP, 64bit or 128bit WEP etc
[00:19] <sebsebseb> dux0r: and  Mozilla Suite only existed since  IE nearly killed Netscape etc etc, but this is all off topic
[00:19] <ActionParsnip> killme101: ok cool
[00:19] <killme101> ActionParsnip: this wasn't even after an update or anything
[00:19] <ActionParsnip> killme101: try: sudo nvidia-xconfig and restart x server
[00:19] <ChrisW> ActionParsnip: yep, that bti seems fine, the connection shows just fine in the bar at the top of the screen
[00:19] <lakotajames> can someone help me get the headtracking plugin for compiz to work?
[00:19] <ActionParsnip> ChrisW: can you access your routers config page ok?
[00:20] <ChrisW> I even have an ip address according to ifconfig
[00:20] <killme101> ActionParsnip: i did, and that's what gave me the completely screwed up xorg.conf
[00:20] <dotblank> lakotajames: you are still looking for an answer?
[00:20] <ActionParsnip> lakotajames: i'd ask in #compiz its more specific
[00:20] <ChrisW> ActionParsnip: nope, can't even ping it
[00:20] <lakotajames> dotblank: yep/
[00:20] <ChrisW> "it" being 192.168.1.1...
[00:20] <ActionParsnip> ChrisWhow about if you set a manual ip appropriate for your LAN?
[00:20] <lakotajames> ActionParsnop: ok, thanks
[00:21] <keres> is /dev/sdb2	/media/mac	hfs force 0 0 the proper way to force mount an hfs partition?
[00:21] <ChrisW> ActionParsnip: the ip it has *is* an appropriate ip for my LAN
[00:21] <ChrisW> so I don't see how manually setting it will help...
[00:21] <Scunizi> should your own files and directories in /home show permissions of 777?
[00:21] <sprinkmeier_> keres, 'forcing' is never the proper way to do anything :-( but that line in /etc/fstab should work
[00:21] <killme101> ActionParsnip: it doesn't even mention my graphics card. all that it does is is has a device of identifier "Device0", VendorName "NVIDIA Corporation", and Driver "nvidia"
[00:22] <jrib> Scunizi: no
[00:22] <keres> sprinkmeier_: doesnt :(
[00:22] <dotblank> ChrisW: can you pst the output of ifconfig -a, lspci, iwconfig, netstat -rn, cat /etc/resolv.conf to pastebin?
[00:22] <Scunizi> jrib: what should they be?
[00:22] <jrib> Scunizi: depends on the file
[00:22] <ChrisW> dotblank: not easilly: I have no nework connection :-(
[00:22] <dotblank> ChrisW: ouch
[00:22] <_Whipper__> 177.3 driver should work nVidia i ment..
[00:22] <ChrisW> well d'uh, that's what IU'm trying to fix ;-)
[00:22] <dotblank> ChrisW: is 192.168.1.1 your router
[00:22] <ActionParsnip> ChrisW: no, set the ip on you wifi to static ip and gice it an ip address rather than relying on dhcp
[00:22] <sprinkmeier_> keres, can you mount it on the command-line? if so , look at /etc/mtab and copy/paste to /etc/fstab
[00:22] <_Whipper__> with an older kernel..
[00:23] <Scunizi> jrib: I'm talking about things in /home and it's subdirectories that I have put in there.
[00:23] <ChrisW> dotblank: yup ;-)
[00:23] <ActionParsnip> ChrisW: what is the output of: lspci | grep -i vga
[00:23] <ChrisW> ActionParsnip: what does vga have to do with this?
[00:23] <dotblank> ChrisW: and you can't ping it?
[00:23] <ActionParsnip> ChrisW: wriong dude, sorry
[00:23] <ChrisW> dotblank: correct
[00:23] <dotblank> ChrisW: is the wireless connected?
[00:23] <keres> sprinkmeier_: what does an hfs partition look like?
[00:24] <ChrisW> ActionParsnip: the ip address it got by dhcp is exactly the address I would manually assign it, how is manually assigning it going to help?
[00:24] <ActionParsnip> killme101: what is the output of: lspci | grep -i vga
[00:24] <ChrisW> dotblank: yes, it has an ip address and everything ;-)
[00:24] <ChrisW> even shows up all cute and connected in the bar at the top of the screen
[00:24] <dotblank> ChrisW: what error do you get when you ping?
[00:24] <sprinkmeier_> keres, I don't understand the question. Once it's mounted it should look like any other partition
[00:24] <ActionParsnip> ChrisW: ah ok then dhcp is working ok. thats a good sign. try: sudo ifdown eth0
[00:25] <keres> sprinkmeier_: im trying to mount an hfs partition, im looking at mtab, This makes less sense than fstab
[00:25] <ActionParsnip> ChrisW: this will down the wired interface and the data will have no choice
[00:25] <ChrisW> ActionParsnip: eth0 not configured
[00:25] <ActionParsnip> ChrisW: can you ping?
[00:26] <exodus_ms> Is the command I would use to had a repo to my sources.list without opening /etc/apt/sources.list     sudo bash -c "echo 'deb http://deb.opera.com/opera/ stable non-free' >> /etc/apt/sources.list"
[00:26] <dotblank> ActionParsnip: if hes pinging in the current subnet his routing table doesn't really take effect
[00:26] <Pollywog> It seems the Lyx package in Hardy is actually a Debian package, not Ubuntu, is this possible?
[00:26] <ActionParsnip> chrisW: ping 38.99.130.180
[00:26] <ChrisW> ActionParsnip: no, can't even ping the router
[00:26] <ChrisW> ActionParsnip: how will that help? I can't even ping the gateway...
[00:26] <sprinkmeier_> keres, if it's mounted just grep for the mount-point, that should give you the line representing the hfs partition. If it's not mounted it won't be in mtab.
[00:26] <ActionParsnip> ChrisW: does a reboot help?
[00:26] <_Whipper__> chrisw: then your card is almost cert. broken
[00:26] <ChrisW> ActionParsnip: no
[00:26] <keres> sprinkmeier_: syntax for grep?
[00:26] <dotblank> ChrisW: request timed out, operation not supported, network unreachable?
[00:26] <killme101> ActionParsnip: was the lshw | grep vga directed at me?
[00:26] <Scunizi> jrib: files that I have created.. what should be the permission number if not 777?
[00:26] <ActionParsnip> ChrisW: does the wifi card have a default gateway defined?
[00:26] <Cool_Nick> How do I install the lib atm package on ubuntu 8.10? (apt-get install linux-atm doesn't work)
[00:26] <ChrisW> _Whipper__:  nope, connects fine from the same machine when running Vista
[00:27] <ActionParsnip> killme101: yes, lspci | grep -i vga
[00:27] <AshKyd> ActionParsnip: Turns out I was calling a function inside itself, instead of getting the variable of the same name. Infinite loop = segfault.
[00:27] <Scunizi> jrib: 744?
[00:27] <ActionParsnip> AshKyd: thatll do it
[00:27] <fearful> Cool_Nick, whats the error?
[00:27] <jrib> Scunizi: the default umask is 022.  So by default, permissions will have 755 permissions
[00:27] <sprinkmeier_> keres, (pardon me for saying this, but if you don't know grep then maybe you shouldn't be messing with 'force mount' options) "grep /mnt/dir /etc/mtab"
[00:27] <_Whipper__> chris:what chipset was it again?
[00:27] <killme101> ActionParsnip: i get a "description: VGA compatible controller"
[00:27] <ActionParsnip> AshKyd: wtg for working it out :D
[00:27] <ChrisW> dotblank: Destination Host Unreachable
[00:27] <Cool_Nick> fearful, E: Couldn't find package linux-atm
[00:27] <ActionParsnip> killme101: it should say what nvidia card it is
[00:27] <dotblank> ChrisW: ah thats more descriptive :)
[00:28] <fearful> Cool_Nick, that's because its not finding the package not because its not working, you sure you added the right repositories?
[00:28] <keres> sprinkmeier_: i've used grep before, long ago. I've just never mounted an hfs partition
[00:28] <killme101> ActionParsnip: if i pipe is to less, i can see it. it's a GeForce 8400M GS
[00:28] <exodus_ms> "rephrased question" Is this the command I would use to add a repo to my sources.list without opening /etc/apt/sources.list?     sudo bash -c "echo 'deb http://deb.opera.com/opera/ stable non-free' >> /etc/apt/sources.list"
[00:28] <dotblank> ChrisW: what is your IP and subnet mask?
[00:28] <ChrisW> ActionParsnip: I didn't define a default gateway, surely that's DHCP's job? How wouldI check what it thinks the default gateway is?
[00:28] <Cool_Nick> fearful, I don't think the package exists for 8.10 and was wondering if it has a new name
[00:28] <dotblank> ChrisW: netstat -rn will show you your default gw
[00:28] <ActionParsnip> ChrisW: can you see your routers ip address in nthe output of: route
[00:28] <ChrisW> dotblank: you mean of the box in question? 192.168.1.13, subnet is 255.255.255.0
[00:28] <ActionParsnip> ChrisW: just checking all bases
[00:28] <Cool_Nick> fearful, I have all teh ubuntu repositoeis turned on (universe multiverse etc...)
[00:29] <ActionParsnip> ChrisW: yes it is dhcp's job but its worth a check
[00:29] <dotblank> ChrisW: have you done sudo ifconfig (interface) up
[00:29] <fearful> Cool_Nick, check apt-cache search linux-atm
[00:29] <_Whipper__> >more beer and a fag >
[00:29] <ActionParsnip> dotblank: was gonna suggest that too ;)
[00:29] <Scunizi> jrib: ok.. I'm just trying to decypher a samba problem and noticed that most everything was set to 777.  I use to be able to access certain shared directories in  ~ from a windows VM on the same machine.. now for some reason I can on get into some of them and others I've been locked out of.  The vm is on my machine not elsewhere.
[00:29] <ChrisW> ActionParsnip: route -> one lien starting "default" which does list hte gateway, yes
[00:30] <ChrisW> all the rest have * in the gateway column
[00:30] <killme101> ActionParsnip: how did that help?
[00:30] <ActionParsnip> killme101: looks like the 177 is good for it
[00:30] <ChrisW> dotblank: yup, runs with no output, makes no difference
[00:30] <n8tuserf> ChrisW -> kindly post your  ifconfig; iwconfig; route -n;  cat /etc/network/interface;  cat /etc/resolv.conf
[00:30] <killme101> ActionParsnip: so, i should try that? how can i deal with the bogus xorg.conf though?
[00:31] <ActionParsnip> killme101: sudo apt-get instal nvidia-glx-177
[00:31] <ChrisW> n8tuserf: the machine has no network connection, which is the problem, so that's rather difficult...
[00:31] <ActionParsnip> killme101: then run: sudo nvidia-xconfig
[00:31] <ActionParsnip> killme101: should be ok
[00:31] <ChrisW> resolv.conf doesn't matter yet, Im onyl using ip addresses
[00:31] <sprockets> Hi, i have a question, I have read the ubuntu forums but to no avail have found answer to the following, my USB headset works however it will not work for movies or online flash it used to work fine until i unplugged it once. . .
[00:31] <sprinkmeier_> Scunizi, permissions mapping between samba and native is non-trivial. was the 777 a result of trying to 'fix' things for samba?
[00:31] <n8tuserf> ChrisW -> you have to do your part, you can always copy it to a usb dongle or manually copy it to paste
[00:31] <killme101> ActionParsnip: because i cant get gnome running i have to somehow get wireless through the commandline. i'm not 100% sure of how to do that
[00:32] <Cool_Nick> fearful, didn't know about that command, apparently its now called libatm1.  isntalling it now etc... thanks
[00:32] <ActionParsnip> ChrisW: ok then dhcp is populating the network settings fully
[00:32] <dotblank> ChrisW: try "sudo /etc/init.d/networking stop" and disabling Network manager by right clicking the applet
[00:32] <fearful> Cool_Nick, no problem, its very useful :)
[00:32] <ChrisW> '/etc/network/interfaces lists "auto lo\niface li inet loopback"
[00:32] <Scunizi> sprinkmeier_: no.. must have been from something else.. this particular /home I've had for a couple years through upgrades. So I'm not sure when it happened.
[00:33] <Noob> OH
[00:33] <dotblank> ChrisW: once that is done run "sudo ifconfig (interface) up" and then run "sudo dhclient (interface)"
[00:33] <sprockets> So,  anyone have any experience with logitech usb headsets in ubuntu/linux?
[00:33] <Clessmo> hello
[00:33] <dotblank> ChrisW: whats you interface's name?
[00:33] <sprinkmeier_> !alsa | sprockets
[00:33] <Scunizi> sprinkmeier_: weird thing is I've had the ability to access these shares up until a couple weeks ago and then BAM.. some I still could and some I couldn't
[00:33] <sprockets> !alsa
[00:34] <sprinkmeier_> Scunizi, service pack? update?
[00:34] <Rexie> hey.. I can't full screen streaming videos after I updated flash-nonfree thingy.. why is that? and what can I do to fix it?
[00:34] <Scunizi> sprinkmeier_: on the windows vm?
[00:35] <sprinkmeier_> Scunizi, or the host... sometimes patches break things (sometimes they fix things which only work then broken :-)
[00:35] <dotblank> Rexie: full screen s a bit wierd for flash-nonfree
[00:35] <sprinkmeier_> s/then/when/
[00:35] <sprockets> hmm I even tried setting headset to default i dont see file in volume control
[00:35]  * ChrisW is on the verge of giving this laptop back to its owner and just telling them to put vista back on it :-(
[00:36] <OzFalcon> Is it possible to downgrade 9.04 back to 8.10???
[00:36] <Scunizi> sprinkmeier_: could be.. It's just decyphering it and getting it working again so I don't have to sneaker net via gmail anymore..
[00:36] <Rexie> dotblank : I used to do full screen earlier.. but after I updated few stuffs from update manager its not working
[00:36] <ActionParsnip> OzFalcon: nope, gotta reinstall
[00:36] <_VIM_> !downgrade | OzFalcon
[00:36] <ChrisW> so much for desktop-ready linux, every single thing I've tried to put linux on has fucked up in some way that has just wasted hours of my time
[00:36] <exodus_ms> is there a way to add   deb http://deb.opera.com/opera/ stable non-free   from the command line without opening sources.list?
[00:36] <OzFalcon> Dang.
[00:36] <dotblank> ChrisW: sigh, how old is your laptop?
[00:36] <n8tuserf> ChrisW -> watch your language
[00:36] <sprockets> no way this is so much better than vista or xp
[00:37] <sprockets> just this stupid usb headset issue
[00:37] <ActionParsnip> !opera
[00:37] <_VIM_> ugh ubottu has like a  minute lag
[00:37] <OzFalcon> slow bot
[00:37] <killme101> ActionParsnip: ok, done. how do i restart X when X isn't even started though?
[00:37] <_VIM_> it's not normally slow
[00:37] <ChrisW> n8tuserf: bite me
[00:38] <dotblank> !language
[00:38] <sprinkmeier_> sprockets, it's different. Whether it's better or not depends on your circumstances.
[00:38] <ChrisW> dotblank: it's not mine, it had vista on it, it got horribly virus riddled
[00:38] <ChrisW> I stupidly suggested ubuntu
[00:38] <Scunizi> ChrisW: at this point I'm sure you have the attention of the ops. watch the language.
[00:38] <fearful> ChrisW, it's really not correct to use bad words in this channel you'll have to go by the rules.
[00:38] <killme101> ActionParsnip: nvm in rebooting
[00:38] <sprockets> From the bot : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound  does not work
[00:38] <sprockets> for me
[00:38] <ChrisW> which has been the total FAIL you guys have been tryign to help me through
[00:38] <dotblank> ChrisW: still what is the make/model or a guess to how old it is?
[00:38] <exodus_ms> ok, what would the command look like to add any repo to the sources.list without actually opening sources.list
[00:38] <sprockets> Anyone just know how to set the default sound device the right way
[00:38] <sprockets> I googled it but the command did not do the trick
[00:38] <erUSUL> exodus_ms: echo "line of text" >> file    that adds the line at the en of the file
[00:38] <_VIM_> !attitude
[00:39] <n8tuserf> ChrisW look I asked you to post info  and you decline because  of your lazyniss.. dont blame the folks here
[00:39] <fearful> poor bot forcing it too much
[00:39] <ActionParsnip> exodus_ms: sudo echo "deb http://deb.opera.com/opera/ stable non-free" >> /etc/apt/sources.lst
[00:39] <ChrisW> wow, if only this many people piped up and actually helped fixing problems rather than whining about netiquette...
[00:39] <dotblank> I think ubottu died
[00:39] <exodus_ms> ActionParsnip, that is what I thought but I keep getting a permission denied
[00:39] <dotblank> ChrisW: IRC is not an ideal support medium
[00:39] <sprinkmeier_> ChrisW, remote support is difficult, especially for networking problems. Maybe try a local LUG.
[00:39] <fearful> ChrisW, well then if you want help cooperate
[00:39] <ActionParsnip> exodus_ms: make sure you use sudo ;)
[00:40] <_VIM_> we're defensive of our OS! You cannot blame us  for that :)
[00:40] <killme101> ActionParsnip: the original "freeze"
[00:40] <ChrisW> *sigh*
[00:40] <erUSUL> ActionParsnip: that will not work... sudo do not cross shell redirection.... « echo foo | sudo tee -a file »
[00:40] <exodus_ms> ActionParsnip, I did
[00:40] <killme101> * ActionParsnip: the original "freeze" is back when i boot
[00:40] <ChrisW> no, I'll be honest with people from now on, and just tell them to avoid...
[00:40] <ActionParsnip> exodus_ms: what erUSUL said
[00:40] <OzFalcon> Boo I have to make a USB boot key again to install 8.10.
[00:41] <ActionParsnip> OzFalcon: you could try a downgrade but it may break your system
[00:41] <sprockets> Sigh, could it be that im using the 64 bit version I believe its edgy that is causing this usb headset issue
[00:41]  * dotblank sigh
[00:41] <hafsi> Hi guys !
[00:41] <Zyark> heh, ChrisW's loss ^^
[00:41] <sprockets> I know the USB headset work i just cant tell it when i want it to work
[00:41] <hafsi> I am connecting from irssi !
[00:41] <exodus_ms> erUSUL, ok, so no sudo, got it, thanks, you too ActionParsnip
[00:41] <_VIM_> he'll be back under a different nick once he cools down
[00:41] <OzFalcon> ActionParsnip, Well, My system is broken now. It cant be any worse.
[00:41] <OzFalcon> ActionParsnip, How to I do that via net.
[00:42] <sprinkmeier_> sprockets, props for using 64-bit, but yes, sadly, there are issues (and not only for Linux) on 64-bit platforms
[00:42] <erUSUL> exodus_ms: it would be : « echo "deb http://deb.opera.com/opera/ stable non-free" | sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list »
[00:42] <ActionParsnip> OzFalcon: change repos in sources.lst back yo intrepid and run: sudo apt-get --reinstall ubuntu-desktop|kubuntu-desktop|xubuntu-desktop
[00:42] <dotblank> I use 64 bit and mostly works, I have to use the beta flash plugin that is 64 bit
[00:42] <OzFalcon> ta.
[00:42] <erUSUL> exodus_ms: the -a is really important or you will overwritte the file
[00:42] <ActionParsnip> OzFalcon: if stuff is broken when you get back round its all down to you to fix it
[00:43] <sprockets> Yeah I use the beta plugin as well, I just cant wrap my head around this problem because it worked flawlessly before I rebooted
[00:43] <OzFalcon> 1st I'd better check for related issues before I do that. Perhaps someone has already solved.
[00:43] <ActionParsnip> OzFalcon: its not supported, its not advised but thats how you CAN do it, you will also need to remove the jaunty kernel
[00:43] <sprockets> Oh well lame laptop speakers ftw
[00:43] <exodus_ms> erUSUL, okay, that worked and i remembered the -a  This will work for any repository I wish to add in the future, correct?
[00:43] <killme101> maybe someone else has an idea. here's the situation: i removed all nvidia, then installed nvidia-glx-177 using apt-get for my geforce 8400m gs. now, when i boot, after the ubuntu load screen with the bar, i just get an empty black screen instead of gdm. anyone have ideas?
[00:43] <sebsebseb> _VIM_: for market share reasons, I guess people should use Opera  instead of some other browser,  instead of Firefox
[00:43] <Pollywog> ftw?
[00:43] <erUSUL> exodus_ms: yep
[00:44] <exodus_ms> erUSUL, thanks again
[00:44] <sebsebseb> _VIM_: uhmmmm  I had my client on wrong place
[00:44] <sebsebseb> _VIM_: that was a while ago
[00:44] <_VIM_> woah sebsebseb that Opera convo was over 30 mins ago ;)
[00:44] <fearful> Pollywog, for the win.
[00:44] <dotblank> sprockets: wish I had a usb headset to try
[00:44] <sebsebseb> _VIM_:  something like that,  I  was scrolled up in konversation
[00:44] <Pollywog> oh I thought only the FreeBSD folks said ftw
[00:44] <_VIM_> sebsebseb:  hehe
[00:44] <ActionParsnip> killme101: if you restart x server when the black screen happens do you get anything?
[00:44] <erUSUL> exodus_ms: also you can create a file.list (for example opera.list) in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ with just that line
[00:44] <dotblank> sprockets: whats the output of dmesg | tail when you plig in your headset
[00:44] <Giant81> USB headsets are nice
[00:44] <Giant81> I had a friend with one
[00:44] <erUSUL> exodus_ms: is a cleaner aproach
[00:45] <ActionParsnip> usb headsets add unnecessary complication
[00:45] <CompuHacker> Advice on USB Headsets: Don't twist the cord idly. It breaks.
[00:45] <n8tuserf> whose done creating a new initrd   a simple one I hope and made it work with the kernel from upgrades or livecd? can you kindly give me some pointers?
[00:45] <daftykins> hmm firefox 307 just came out on APT for intrepid
[00:45] <sebsebseb> _VIM_: well what I was saying though...   ,but  Opera is closed source and so hum
[00:45] <killme101> ActionParsnip: i can't do *any* thing. it doesnt respond even to ctrl-alt-bksp, or to ctrl-alt-f<n>
[00:45] <exodus_ms> erUSUL, as opposed to just adding random repos the bottom of the list?
[00:45] <n8tuserf> my attempt to create an initrd causes kernel panic  yuk!
[00:45] <sprinkmeier_> killbillkill, REISUB?
[00:45] <erUSUL> n8tuserf: update-initramfs ? mkinitramfs ?
[00:45] <dotblank> killme101: is are numlock and capslock keys flashing
[00:45] <erUSUL> exodus_ms: yep
[00:45] <_VIM_> sebsebseb:  that's Opera's only downfall... sadly, Lets hope that some day soon they will open up a bit :)
[00:46] <n8tuserf> erUSUL -> mkinitramfs
[00:46] <killme101> dotblank: no, or i would have told u it's a kernel panic ;)
[00:46] <ActionParsnip> killme101: you could try booting to recovery root console and run: sudo apt-get --purge remove nvidia*; sudo apt-get --purge autoremove; rm ~/.nvidia*; sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[00:46] <sebsebseb> ok  if a computer is really slow on 3GB  RAM  that runs Ubuntu,  what to do?   I looked on Google and it seems could be a bug with kernel or something
[00:46] <killme101> ActionParsnip: okay
[00:46] <ActionParsnip> killme101: that will clear out any nvidia stuff and you can configure from scratch
[00:47] <killme101> ActionParsnip: allright. so i'll do that, and it SHOULD work w/o nvidia. then i can try installing nvidia as you talked about before, roger?
[00:47] <ActionParsnip> killme101: i'd also run: sudo apt-get clean
[00:47] <erUSUL> n8tuserf: well i use it for building the initrd's of the vanilla kernels i compile... but i do not configure it specially i just do "sudo mkinitramfs -o /boot/initrd.img-kernel_version kernel_version"
[00:47] <sprinkmeier_> sebsebseb, might not be a RAM limitation. updatedb sometimes really grinds my system, mostly disk IO
[00:47] <killme101> ActionParsnip: allright
[00:47] <exodus_ms> erUSUL, will do that as well, something like this   echo "deb http://deb.opera.com/opera/ stable non-free" | sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list/opera.list ?
[00:47] <erUSUL> n8tuserf: where kernel_version is 2.6.29-rc7 for example
[00:47] <ActionParsnip> killme101: yeah, it just wipes out all nvidia things so you can setup again
[00:48] <Scunizi> sprinkmeier_: I think I figured it out and thought I'd pass it along.  At one point I had Win2kPro map one of the shares as a network drive. When I removed that mapping ALL the shares started working again.. :/
[00:48] <erUSUL> exodus_ms: yes. but if you are cratting the file the -a is not needed (it does not harm though)
[00:48] <dotblank> killme101: you could also do this "sudo mv /etc/xorg.conf ~/xorg.bak && sudo nvidia-xconfig"
[00:49] <sebsebseb> sprinkmeier_: well this guy (I am vncing securely :) SSH :d ) might have to distro change, because of that
[00:49] <filthpig> hi all, is it possible to set individual wallpapers for each workspace somehow?
[00:49] <erUSUL> exodus_ms: is /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ <<<<
[00:49] <killme101> dotblank: nvidia-xconfig already screwed up my xorg.conf massively, so it's not very much use to run it AGAIN
[00:49] <dotblank> filthpig: sadly not in gnome.. yet
[00:49] <erUSUL> exodus_ms: note the .d
[00:49] <dotblank> killme101: well i wouldn't do it again then
[00:49] <dotblank> killme101: :)
[00:49] <Pollywog> yes not in Gnome though you can do it in KDE
[00:49] <ActionParsnip> killme101: i'd get the nvidia stuff off then build up from there, maybe theres a quirk or 2 with the card you have
[00:50] <Pollywog> diff wallpapers for diff desktops
[00:50] <killme101> dotblank: :-P. I'm just trying what ActionParsnip suggested
[00:50] <sprinkmeier_> sebsebseb, does 'top' highlight any culprits? does the system loose time (kernel lockup while doing disk io or somesuch, use hrparm to cure)?
[00:50] <dotblank> killme101: you could try downloading the 180.* drivers
[00:50] <killme101> ActionParsnip: the odd thing is that it worked just fine until today!
[00:50] <mib_81o0a9> just installed 8.10 stuido 64bit and start up gets stuck at powernowd
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> killme101: well what changed?
[00:50] <mib_81o0a9> can anyone help?
[00:50] <dotblank> !question
[00:51] <killme101> ActionParsnip: it stopped working :-P I don't recall doing anything out of the ordinary
[00:51] <exodus_ms> erUSUL,  echo "deb http://deb.opera.com/opera/ stable non-free" | sudo tee /etc/apt/sources.list.d/opera.list  will append a section "opera.list' to my current sources.list correct?
[00:51] <_VIM_> sebsebseb: how are you VNCing with ssh? I do it like this, is it right? ssh -t -L 5900:localhost:5900 farawayuser@192.168.192.196 'x11vnc -ncache 20 -localhost -display :0'
[00:51] <ActionParsnip> mib_81o0a9: boot with acpi off kernel option
[00:51] <filthpig> okay.. Too bad I prefer gnome over KDE ;) Although I'll give to KDE that it is a lot more flexible than gnome.. Yet, all in all, I like the simplicity in gnome.. except a few details such as this
[00:51] <my_haz> in gpg is there any way to import a key that is not self-signed?
[00:51] <ActionParsnip> mib_81o0a9: you may need to get fully updated to fix it
[00:51] <mib_81o0a9> how do i do that?
[00:51] <ActionParsnip> mib_81o0a9: you sure its not jaunty. I used to get that error
[00:51] <erUSUL> exodus_ms: yes
[00:51] <sebsebseb> _VIM_: i'll get the guy to join here,  it's ashame to    get another distro, because of that issue really
[00:51] <ActionParsnip> !bootoptions | mib_81o0a9
[00:51] <sebsebseb> _VIM_: oh and his wireless  woudn't just work in Ubuntu, but it will in Mandriva
[00:51] <jrib> filthpig: you can do this in compiz if you don't care about desktop icons.  Otherwise, google wallpapoz
[00:52] <_VIM_> sebsebseb: then once im in i type vncviewer localhost , anyways works for me :)
[00:52] <_Whipper__> Fxce :) thats the way u go :)
[00:52] <ActionParsnip> wow ubottu is slow
[00:52] <mib_81o0a9> im sure its 8.10
[00:52] <exodus_ms> erUSUL, got it, and not using -a will not overwrite the current file because of .d ?
[00:52] <dotblank> !hi | dotblank
[00:52] <nothingman> hi, all
[00:52] <_VIM_> jussi01_: are you up? ubottu is like one minute lagging for everyone
[00:53] <ActionParsnip> !coffee
[00:53] <erUSUL> exodus_ms: no; you are creating and entairly *new* text file hence there is nothing to overwritte
[00:53] <ActionParsnip> see if coffee will help
[00:53] <_Whipper__> !beer
[00:53] <Pollywog> ubottu is eating and chatting
[00:53] <dotblank> wow at least 20 seconds lag
[00:53] <erUSUL> exodus_ms: and you do not need the -a
[00:53] <killme101> ActionParsnip: well, it works fine after i removed anything and everything nvidia
[00:53] <Pollywog> eating virtual donuts
[00:53] <sebsebseb> _VIM_:   they do two terminals
[00:53] <Pici> I'm sure that the bot lagging is going to be even better when people keep requesting silly factoids./
[00:53] <ActionParsnip> killme101: thats because you are using the nv driver
[00:53] <keres> how can i determine my ethernet vendor? Like on my mobo.
[00:53] <killme101> ActionParsnip: it's just missing any video card now ;). so i should do the apt-get way and install nvidia-glx-177?
[00:53] <ActionParsnip> keres: lspci
[00:53] <dotblank> keres: lspci
[00:54] <sebsebseb> _VIM_: terminal 1:  ssh -L 5500:127.0.0.1:5500 -p 22 theirusername@myipaddress
[00:54] <erUSUL> keres: "lshw -C Network" or "lspci | grep -i net"
[00:54] <nothingman> tried installing Intrepid on an older Dell, P4, 1GB RAM, Intel graphics; and it freezes on login
[00:54] <ActionParsnip> killme101: sounds like a plan; sudo sudo apt-get clean first
[00:54] <nirc> thats wats up yo
[00:54] <_VIM_> sebsebseb: that's what i do the second terminal is for doing vncviewer localhost
[00:54] <exodus_ms> erUSUL, ok, am i trying you crazy yet? I was under the impression that this would append to my current sources.list which is already populated with repos
[00:54] <killme101> ActionParsnip: i did
[00:54] <nirc> I didn't know i could send all you guys a virus..
[00:54] <_Whipper__> How can i turn my cellphone to a Hot-Spot ?-)
[00:54] <sebsebseb> _VIM_: yeah and changing the port from 22 to something else would be more secure
[00:54] <ActionParsnip> nothingman: did you md5 check your downloaded ISO as well as verify the installcd was ok at the first cd boot screen?
[00:54] <CompuHacker> Whipper: .... What.
[00:54] <nirc> blah
[00:55] <_VIM_> sebsebseb: hrrmmm yeah
[00:55] <erUSUL> exodus_ms: no the other method « echo "deb http://deb.opera.com/opera/ stable non-free" | sudo tee -a  /etc/apt/sources.list »
[00:55] <sebsebseb> _VIM_: who do you do that with by the way?
[00:55] <dotblank> CompuHacker: thats what I almost said
[00:55] <SegFaultAX> !topic
[00:55] <erUSUL> exodus_ms: will add that to sources.list
[00:55] <_VIM_> i closed 5900 as its no longer needed with the tunneling sebsebseb
[00:55] <_Whipper__> Compu: just a joke :)
[00:55] <CompuHacker> dotblank: Say it faster next time
[00:55] <nothingman> Action: no, but I tried installing twice from different dics
[00:55] <Sarai> I just have a quick question. I'm configuring my virtual box for usb support following these instructions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox#USB .  I'm to the instruction about editing permissions but I'm not sure whether it wants me to replace the usb permissions with the given code or simply add the given code alongside the existing one.
[00:55] <sebsebseb> _VIM_: yep only need SSH port open
[00:55] <nothingman> *discs*
[00:55] <sam555> when ones does ls -l, there are 7 columns displayed
[00:55] <_VIM_> sebsebseb:  my other computer (the laptop)
[00:55] <ActionParsnip> nothingman: if yu didnt md5 them they could both be bad
[00:55] <sam555> what are the 2 columns that say root?
[00:55] <ActionParsnip> nothingman: md5 checks are crucial
[00:55] <daftykins> Sarai, make a backup and try both ways
[00:55] <exodus_ms> erUSUL, and the other will simply create a sources.list.d for a specific section, in this case opera
[00:56] <Sarai> daftykins:  lol, fair enough
[00:56] <erUSUL> exodus_ms: the cleaner method of using one file per repo in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ is new
[00:56] <ActionParsnip> nothingman: you could try some boot options to see if your system will boot: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[00:56] <tat> ubottu: sounds good how about a cup!
[00:56] <fearful> anyone know how I can run chatzilla without opening firefox?
[00:56] <killme101> ActionParsnip: ok it's installing. the weird thing is, at first, this computer impressed me with how fast it caught both the proprietarty wireless driver and the nvidia one, then just magically worked from there. i guess it realized the right way computers are supposed to "work" today
[00:56] <erUSUL> exodus_ms: exactly
[00:56] <filthpig> jrib: wallpapoz seems to be a nice choice as I kinda like having desktop icons ;) thanks for the tip, I'll give it a look-see during the weekend I guess
[00:56] <n8tuserf> erUSUL -> i got disconnected..
[00:56] <n8tuserf> erUSUL -> umm I forgot to mention when copying  devices into /dev/   there are no /dev/ramdisk to copy over so i wonder if thats the cause of failure..
[00:56] <n8tuserf> erUSUL -> perhaps i should rephrase, when you create your initrd, which /dev/ram*  do you copy over?
[00:57] <dotblank> killme101: vista did it. with its rpc gossip
[00:57] <nothingman> ActionParsnip: it installs fine, boots all the way to gdm, and only when I login am I unable to do anything
[00:57] <exodus_ms> erUSUL, ok, that is where ai was confused, I thought the method you were explaing would 'add' a section to the current sources.list for 'opera.list'
[00:57] <_Whipper__> makedev
[00:57] <jrib> filthpig: there were some patches at some point so nautilus could draw the desktop with a transparent wallpaper, but I don't know what happened to them (check the gnome tracker)
[00:57] <killme101> dotblank: T_T curse you, M$!!
[00:57] <erUSUL> n8tuserf: as i said i just run the command i do not modify its behavior in any way
[00:57] <IdentifyTarget> is software raid0 pretty easy to do in ubuntu?
[00:57] <ActionParsnip> nothingman: does it happen if you make a new user?
[00:57] <sebsebseb> _VIM_: pm  me
[00:57] <dotblank> IdentifyTarget: no
[00:57] <_VIM_> ok
[00:57] <erUSUL> n8tuserf:  i just do "sudo mkinitramfs -o /boot/initrd.img-kernel_version kernel_version"
[00:57] <nothingman> hm, good q
[00:57] <n8tuserf> erUSUL -> oh okay, i thought you have customized it.. thanks for the response
[00:57] <IdentifyTarget> christ....
[00:58] <Gnea> !raid | IdentifyTarget
[00:58] <IdentifyTarget> !raid0
[00:58] <IdentifyTarget> fail
[00:58] <filthpig> jrib: my wild guess is that gnome will officially add these functions with gnome 3
[00:58] <erUSUL> n8tuserf: take alook in /etc/initramfs-tools/
[00:58] <Gnea> lag.
[00:58] <ActionParsnip> IdentifyTarget: ubottu is slow right now
[00:58]  * IdentifyTarget kicks ubottu 
[00:58] <exodus_ms> erUSUL, I understand exactly what you are saying now. Lets stop now before this gets lost in IRCtranslation :) thanks again for your help
[00:58] <dotblank> AHH
[00:58] <Gnea> LOL
[00:58] <dotblank> GASP
[00:58] <erUSUL> !raid > IdentifyTarget
[00:58]  * dotblank scared
[00:59] <sprinkmeier_> IdentifyTarget, if all you want is bigger disks then maybe LVM is sufficient. More flexible than RAID, but no physical striping to no performance benefit.
[00:59] <erUSUL> exodus_ms: no problem
[00:59] <ActionParsnip> erUSUL: he;s not here ;)
[00:59] <Gnea> IdentifyTarget: no need for that.
[00:59] <IdentifyTarget> hmm. I'll google LVM, don't know what it is
[00:59]  * erUSUL doh
[00:59] <killme101> ActionParsnip: the xorg.conf doesn't look any different at all, but it gave me an error when it was generated -> Data incomplete in /etc/X11/xorg.conf. Device section "Configured Video Device" must have a Driver line.
[00:59] <ActionParsnip> erUSUL: (00:58:50) ubottu left the room (quit: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)).
[00:59] <_Whipper__> oops
[00:59] <sprinkmeier_> IdentifyTarget, Logical Volume Management.
[00:59] <Pollywog> on the subject of LVM, can I use LVM and still encrypt my drive?
[00:59] <fearful> how can I run chatzilla without opening firefox?
[00:59] <_Whipper__> dont mess with RAID if u dont know what LVM is..
[00:59] <ActionParsnip> killme101: dont sweat it, restart x if you just ran nvidia-xconfig
[00:59] <Gnea> IdentifyTarget: patience is a virtue. without it, you will fail. :)
[00:59] <sprinkmeier_> Pollywog, yes, I do it all the time.
[01:00] <dotblank> IdentifyTarget: pain and dataloss await you
[01:00] <Pollywog> sprinkmeier_: ty
[01:00] <killme101> ActionParsnip: ok. by restart x u mean ctrl-alt-bksp, right?
[01:00] <ActionParsnip> fearful: impossible, chatzilla is a plugin for firefox, so firefox must run
[01:00] <nothingman> fearful: I made an icon in Gnome with "/usr/bin/mozilla --chat" as the command
[01:00] <dotblank> killme101: basicly
[01:00] <ActionParsnip> killme101: yes
[01:00] <hunter__> Hey everyone
[01:00] <killme101> ActionParsnip: hung black screen :-/
[01:00] <dotblank> hunter__: hi!
[01:00] <fearful> nothingman: thanks:p
[01:01] <hunter__> Hi dotblank
[01:01] <nothingman> is there a chatzilla plugin for firefox? I had to download all of Seamonkey
[01:01] <_Whipper__> U can allways run something neat&fun stuff IN ubuntu, with an usb-flash, or a cd or..
[01:02] <Chris___> I'm still stuck so seeing if anyone else is around:  my grub started trying to load a mismatched/corrupt stage2 from the wrong partition (hd3,4) when it should be (hd0,4).  Can anyone advise how to fix?  I ran gparted thinking it might help if I removed the unwated linux partition on hd3 but I'm not seeing it.  I only see it in partition magic in Windos, and PM can't remove it
[01:02] <hunter__> anyone have an idea any idea about why Ubuntu lags so bad on my HP G60?
[01:02] <killme101> ActionParsnip: i'm wondering whether i should just back up all my  data and reinstall ubuntu >_<
[01:02] <hunter__> I've done all the updates
[01:02] <ActionParsnip> nothingman: indeed
[01:02] <ActionParsnip> killme101: you could try some boot options
[01:02] <daftykins> killme101, if there's one thing i've learnt with ubuntu, it's that you should never consider a single installation permanent :P
[01:02] <dotblank> hunter__: lack of ram?
[01:03] <_VIM_> hunter__: have you disabled extra effects yet?
[01:03] <Guest81547> can any one help me install empire total war on ubuntu
[01:03] <dotblank> hunter__: bad hard disk
[01:03] <dotblank> !hi
[01:03] <hunter__> I hav 3 GB of RAM
[01:03] <killme101> daftykins: that's why i take a reinstallation pretty lightly ;)
[01:03] <hunter__> have*
[01:03] <killme101> ActionParsnip: what do you mean?
[01:03] <Scunizi> hunter__: could be the video. is it nvidia?
[01:03] <CompuHacker> I hav 4 GB of RAM ;)
[01:03] <_VIM_> hunter__: I thought earlier you were going to try xubuntu, or am i mistaking you for someone else?
[01:03] <hunter__> and I know its not a bad hard disk as Windows Vista runs very well on my computer
[01:03] <ActionParsnip> killme101: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[01:03] <eloy_> hello
[01:03] <hunter__> _VIM_ I am running xubuntu right now
[01:04] <_Whipper__> ello
[01:04] <daftykins> sounded like you were making a big deal of it ^_^
[01:04] <hunter__> Scumizi
[01:04] <hunter__> yes
[01:04] <MASTER__> hello
[01:04] <Scunizi> hunter__: which driver are you using?
[01:04] <MASTER__> i need help : freeradius with chillispot
[01:04] <redrebel> is there a command i can use to find duplicate files in different directories?
[01:04] <eloy_> how are youś
[01:04] <daftykins> Vista can be made to run well, it's still boring as :)
[01:04] <hunter__> Sunizi, yes I have nividia
[01:04] <help9> i need help installing empire total war on ubuntu please help
[01:04] <_Whipper__> redreb:yes
[01:04] <_VIM_> hunter__: dang... you could try Ubuntu + LXDE  it's lighter than xubuntu
[01:04] <eloy_> coño de la madre
[01:04] <Scunizi> hunter__: use TAB to complete nick automatically
[01:04] <eloy_> nadien habla spañol
[01:04] <_VIM_> !es | eloy_
[01:05] <killme101> ActionParsnip: ugh this is wayy too messy
[01:05] <hunter__> Scunizi...why would nvidia be the problem?  I thought that was a high end graphics card?
[01:05] <ActionParsnip> hunter__: could try fluxbox too
[01:05] <killme101> ActionParsnip: i think im just gonna go with the reinstall
[01:05] <hunter__> ok  the drivers are not in use
[01:05] <hunter__> no  nivida driver installed yet
[01:05] <orudie> a
[01:05] <_Whipper__> or with plain com.shell :)
[01:06] <Scunizi> hunter__: nvidia isn't the problem mostly .. just the driver.. I have a 8200 built in card and chipset. with the 173 & 177 driver it was like walking through molassis.. everything was slow.
[01:06] <Scunizi> hunter__: install one and see what happens.
[01:06] <hunter__> ok
[01:06] <Scunizi> hunter__: do you know which card you have?
[01:06] <killme101> ActionParsnip: thanks for all the help! :)
[01:06] <help9> help needed installing empire total wae! im kind of new to it
[01:06] <hunter__> no
[01:06] <Dr_willis_AAO> help9,  is that a windows game?
[01:07] <Scunizi> hunter__: in terminal type lspci and it should be listed somewhere in there
[01:07] <_Whipper__> Scunizi:nVidia IS the biggest problm, cos they dont co-operate very well..
[01:07] <CompuHacker> Dr Willis, how often do you see the term "Linux Game" pop up?
[01:07] <fearful> CompuHacker, there are linux games tho..
[01:07] <CompuHacker> Yeah. Give me a percentage.
[01:07] <andybond13> hey, I have a question regarding FDISK and GPARTED; one sees my partitions, the other doesn't
[01:07] <CompuHacker> 0.01% of games.
[01:07] <Dr_willis_AAO> CompuHacker,  several times..  Savage2 came out this year.. and World Of Goo - recently
[01:07] <fearful> CompuHacker, I understand low but there is :)
[01:07] <Pollywog> help9 if it is a Windows game, look into Cedega
[01:08] <ActionParsnip> CompuHacker: i can name a few decent titles
[01:08] <Pollywog> Google "Cedega"
[01:08] <dotblank> Word of Goo is full of win, once i figured out how to make it hi-def
[01:08] <Dr_willis_AAO> Wine from what i gather can do most of what cedega does i hear.
[01:08] <fearful> ActionParsnip, do it, I want to know some
[01:08] <_Whipper__> andyb: the otherone is then better ;)
[01:08] <andybond13> thanks
[01:08] <Dr_willis_AAO> dotblank,  I bought it for my Wii. :)  befor it was even out for the pc/others.
[01:08] <Scunizi> dotblank: full of "win"? what's win?
[01:08] <andybond13> I'm trying to install debian and it won't see it either
[01:08] <CompuHacker> Win is not an acronym.
[01:08] <CompuHacker> Exactly.
[01:08] <dotblank> Scunizi: as opposed to loss
[01:09] <Dr_willis_AAO> its full of 'Goo' :)
[01:09] <Dreamglider> is anyone here familiar with testdisk ? the partition table is lost but with testdisk I Have found my ubuntu partition and it's swap.  who do i clone the ubuntu partition to my new harddisk ?
[01:09] <Scunizi> dotblank: ah.. how'd you make it hi-def?
[01:09] <ActionParsnip> fearful: penumbra (awesome game), frets on fire, urban terror, doom3 runs native with the special installer, abuse, tux racing, freeciv, openttd
[01:09] <MindVirus> I want to just play a specific frequency through my speakers. Can I do this?
[01:09] <dotblank> there is a config file for world of goo and you can specify res
[01:09] <CompuHacker> Now if only there was an IRIX channel.
[01:10] <Scunizi> dotblank: ok.. I'll check that out.. I have fun with Goo.. wasting time that is.
[01:10] <fearful> ActionParsnip, oh yea special installer for doom3 interesting where can I get it
[01:10] <hunter__> Scunizi:  back soon going to install driver
[01:10] <Dreamglider> i have another os on the new disk but i also have a 120gb ext partition intended for the ubuntu partition.
[01:10] <_Whipper__> sourceforge
[01:10] <Scunizi> hunter__: k.. dinner for me.. others are here to help too.
[01:10] <ActionParsnip> fearful: www.idsoftwware.com
[01:10] <CompuHacker> Scunizi: Because Linux is not "for" games, and you should never waste time
[01:10] <hunter__> thank you Sunizi
[01:11] <ActionParsnip> fearful: it also runs flawlessly in wine
[01:11] <hunter__> scunizi*
[01:11] <fearful> ActionParsnip, ok nice to know :)
[01:11] <Ish> Hey my tech savvy friends.  I just need one thing.  What's the quickest easiest FTP sever to install?  All i need, is a single user to be able to upload files to a single directory.  Security really isn't an issue (i know that sounds horrible, but i need this kinda quick, so the more complicated it gets, the worse)  I just need it to accept files from either anonymous or a user i create.  VSFTPD's conf file didn't leave me very happy. Any suggestions?
[01:11] <CompuHacker> Now when you say "FTP"
[01:12] <Scunizi> CompuHacker: while waiting on hold for 10 minutes at a time .. you learn to multitask several things.. the "least of which" is Goo.. it's still fun
[01:12] <CompuHacker> You mean "Food Transfer Pallete", right?
[01:12] <Ish> ftp protocols
[01:12] <Ish> file transfer ;)
[01:12] <CompuHacker> ;P
[01:12] <_Whipper__> Ish: id use Skype :)
[01:12] <Scunizi> CompuHacker: maybe calling it relaxing is a better way of putting it :)
[01:12] <Ish> if i could transfer food, i'd be rich
[01:12] <ActionParsnip> fearful: if you like shary fps games get penumbra, its my favourite linux game
[01:12] <Ish> the program i'm using on the other end requires an ftp server...
[01:12] <CompuHacker> Send me 10MB of uncopied caviar, please.
[01:12] <MindVirus> I want to just play a specific frequency through my speakers. Can I do this?
[01:12] <dotblank> Ish I'll transfer bacteria. that would spell death for mankind
[01:13] <CompuHacker> Yes.
[01:13] <fearful> ActionParsnip, I was looking for free tho, hah don't feel like paying for games anymore barley game
[01:13] <Pollywog> is Penumbra a commercial game?
[01:13] <Myrtti> !offtopic
[01:13] <Pollywog> k
[01:13] <_Whipper__> Mindv: yes, but not too loud :)
[01:13] <Pollywog> I will shut up
[01:13] <fearful> Myrtti, sorry
[01:13] <Ish> dotblank, you probably already do that
[01:13] <Myrtti> Pollywog: not for you specifically
[01:13] <dotblank> Ish: I wrote a paper on that in english
[01:13] <ActionParsnip> fearful: the demo is free
[01:13] <redrebel> \qc
[01:13] <dotblank> !offtopic | dotblank
[01:14] <dotblank> hehe
[01:14] <Ish> why would you...send that to yourself?
[01:14] <ActionParsnip> fearful: urban terror is like counterstrike but uses the unreal engine (has wall jumping too) and frets on fire is like guitar hero but you use F keys plus enter to strum, good times
[01:15] <fearful> ActionParsnip, thanks:p
[01:15] <dotblank> lol ubottu hasn't me a pm yet hes lagging so much
[01:15] <glenrock> !offtopic | glenrock
[01:15] <LjL> don't abuse the bot please
[01:15] <LjL> it's already enough in trouble
[01:15] <Giant81> lol
[01:15] <ActionParsnip> LjL: is he ok now?
[01:15] <Giant81> the bots in trouble?
[01:16] <glenrock> i just got my pm
[01:16] <LjL> ActionParsnip: no
[01:16] <dotblank> Giant81: johnny 5 found him
[01:16] <RPS> Hello Guys, anyone here use Clamav? I ran a scan and it says it found 1 virus, but I can;t seem to figure out where its located .LOL
[01:16] <ActionParsnip> RPS: read the clamav logs
[01:17] <CompuHacker> Check your .LOL files and wipe your cookiecakes.
[01:17] <Myrtti> CompuHacker: please keep the offtopic elsewhere
[01:18] <_Whipper__> doesnt anyone really read any instructions?.. doh.. :P
[01:18] <RPS> ActionParsnip, it says it scanned 9018 files and there is a list of about 200 or so, but I don't see anything odd listed.
[01:18] <CompuHacker> Myrtti: I was srs. Although I suppose "FoodBuntu" was going out of style anyway.
[01:18] <daftykins> well made things just need you to fumble your way through, instructions aren't often necessary :D
[01:18] <_Whipper__> lol
[01:18] <daftykins> there's a famous quote which says "he who has to explain has already lost an argument"
[01:19] <ihcus> hello guys...pls help me ...i messed up my sound ...it has become choppy now...pls help
[01:19] <CompuHacker> Calm down.
[01:19] <dotblank> My food automagicly installs itself into my stomach
[01:19] <CompuHacker> What did you do?
[01:19] <Dr_willis_AAO> daftykins,  can you explain that to me?
[01:19] <ihcus> i might have messed up something
[01:19] <daftykins> lol
[01:19] <CompuHacker> What exactly?
[01:19] <daftykins> very funny
[01:19] <_Whipper__> dafty: "and when the smoke clears, well figure it out" :)
[01:19] <ihcus> i changed some settings...i believe
[01:19] <fearful> dotblank, hah
[01:19] <ihcus> probably in services
[01:19] <Giant81> sudo apt-get install lasagna
[01:19] <fearful> ihcus, what settings tho
[01:19] <daftykins> Dr_willis_AAO, we're not arguing!
[01:19] <ActionParsnip> RPS: try cat <log file> | grep -i found
[01:20] <ihcus> it was working very fine ...then  it became choppy and cacophonic ..
[01:20] <MindVirus> My right click behavior is screwed up. When I right click, it almost always randomly selects an item from the menu as if I had let go of the button. When I hold the right mouse button, sometimes it randomly lets go even though my finger is pressed on the mouse.
[01:20] <fearful> ihcus, did you do anything?
[01:20] <MindVirus> Any suggestions?
[01:20] <dotblank> Giant81: unresolved dependency
[01:20] <ihcus> maybe i tried audio settings management in services by unlocking my account ..
[01:20] <_Whipper__> Mindv: amputation?
[01:21] <RPS> ActionParsnip, I have no clue what the <log file> would be called
[01:21] <ActionParsnip> MindVirus: are you running compiz?
[01:21] <RPS> 1st time I've ever used clamav
[01:21] <MindVirus> ActionParsnip, yes, but even when I disable it, the same behavior occurs.
[01:21] <MindVirus> I've tried.
[01:21] <ActionParsnip> RPS: its the log file you view to see your results. i dont use clamav, you'll have to find where it stores them
[01:21] <ihcus> how do i go back to a point in time where everything was working fine ..??
[01:21] <MindVirus> Plus I don't see exactly how compiz relates to the right click behavior.
[01:21] <ihcus> like system restore
[01:22] <dotblank> ?
[01:22] <ActionParsnip> MindVirus: try defaulting mouse stuffs
[01:22] <MindVirus> ActionParsnip, I'd never changed any settings. I don't know what to default.
[01:22] <LjL> !test
[01:22] <Ubotwo> Failed.
[01:22] <ActionParsnip> MindVirus: thers usually a button to set defaults
[01:22] <daftykins> everything would be a start :P
[01:22] <ihcus> computerhacker :  please help me find a solution
[01:22] <MindVirus> ActionParsnip, oh, on my mouse?
[01:23] <_Whipper__> ihcus: bournagain;)
[01:23] <daftykins> does anyone actually bother to help people with those simple little niggling problems? maybe people just expect solutions because they're used to Windows? i'm sure most should just reinstall
[01:23] <ihcus> fearful: i dont remember doing anythin explictly with sound management
[01:23] <MindVirus> I have a 3-button mouse, dude.
[01:23] <CompuHacker> Well I have a 7 button mouse, DUDE.
[01:23] <CompuHacker> scratch that, make that "Pal"
[01:23] <_Whipper__> dafty: thats the LASt resort :P
[01:23] <fearful> ihcus, can you check your settings under System > Preferences > Sound
[01:23] <donavan01> is there a program that will let me use rar files on ubuntu
[01:23] <CompuHacker> Why yes. Yes there is.
[01:23] <Myrtti> CompuHacker: please, can you keep the noise down and focus on support
[01:24] <dotblank> CompuHacker: I'm not your PAL, GUY
[01:24] <CompuHacker> I'm not your GUY, BUDDY
[01:24] <Myrtti> !ping
[01:24] <Ubotwo> ping yourself ;-) really the diodes all down my left side are sore
[01:24] <Myrtti> !offtopic
[01:24] <Ubotwo> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[01:24] <ActionParsnip> hahaha compiz has a sphere now
[01:24] <CompuHacker> Sorry. Back to support. eh.
[01:24] <dotblank> CompuHacker: I'm not your BUDDY, FRIEND
[01:24] <Myrtti> dotblank: that was meant for you as well.
[01:25] <daftykins> _Whipper__,  why is it last? hardly takes long. if you avoid formatting your /home partition you won't even lose any settings
[01:25] <ihcus> fearful: yup everythings under autodetect except sound capture and default mixer tracks device
[01:25]  * dotblank is serious
[01:25] <fearful> ihcus, double click sounds and tell me what device you are using
[01:25] <MindVirus> ActionParsnip, any suggestions?
[01:25] <turtle_> check out the politics channel    LOL
[01:26] <gaintsura> is there a package to make an install cd from installed packages on the system?
[01:26] <_Whipper__> dafty: yep.. and all the people here asking questions know how to partition, and set the stuff.. :)
[01:26] <ihcus> fearful: u mean the sounds tab in sound preferences ?
[01:26] <fearful> ihcus, no the one by the notification area
[01:26] <dotblank> gaintsura: not to sure you could just copy the directoy structure of an ubuntu disk
[01:26] <ActionParsnip> MindVirus: couldask in ##clamav
[01:26] <MindVirus> ....
[01:27] <MindVirus> What?
[01:27] <LjL> turtle_: why?
[01:27] <MindVirus> My right mouse is behaving erratically, dude.
[01:27] <silvernode> does anyone know of a place where I can find a list of graphics drivers that ubuntu uses?
[01:27] <dotblank> MindVirus: you have 2 mice?
[01:27] <ihcus> fearful: hda intel (alsa mixer )
[01:27] <_Whipper__> ... ziisus.. 03:30 am..
[01:27] <MindVirus> dotblank, my right mouse click.
[01:27] <_Whipper__> more beer >
[01:27] <gaintsura> dotblank: O.o
[01:27] <MindVirus> Button.
[01:27] <dotblank> MindVirus: hardware issue?
[01:27] <MindVirus> I'm assuming software for now.
[01:28] <dotblank> MindVirus: have you tried different mice
[01:28] <MindVirus> Not yet. Will do.
[01:28] <silvernode> does anyone know of a place where I can find a list of graphics drivers that ubuntu uses?
[01:28] <gaintsura> dotblank: doesn't debian/ubuntu do md5 checking on the cd though?
[01:28] <MindVirus> But I'm assuming it's not a hardware issue as I've heard other complaints of this.
[01:28] <_Whipper__> silvernode:sourceforge
[01:29] <ihcus> fearful : how come my sound is cacophony in master setting and good in PCM setting ..btw the pcm slider was down and prob thats the reason the sound was bad
[01:29] <fearful> ihcus, yes thats reason
[01:29] <_Whipper__> and google aint so bad either..
[01:29] <fearful> ihcus, what do you mean cacophony
[01:29] <dotblank> gaintsura: not, really I have that software screen pop-up for alot of differant things, you could make an autorun.inf run a script that installs the packages
[01:29] <ihcus> fearful : thanks man ..
[01:29] <fearful> ihcus, alright glad I could help
[01:30] <dotblank> gaintsura: see*
[01:30] <dotblank> gaintsura: seen*
[01:30] <ihcus> the voice was choppy and u dont get any meaningful sound of it ..all you hear is chirping of metal
[01:30] <ihcus> hey fearful : can u help me in one more issue
[01:30] <fearful> ihcus, of course
[01:30] <gaintsura> dotblank: thanks.. I'll look more into that
[01:30] <melik_> how would i add an entry to the sudoers file to allow printer daemon access for specific users/groups?
[01:30] <ihcus> how do i play divx movies streaming online
[01:30] <silvernode> _Whipper__, Lol sourceforge has a list? that's odd
[01:31] <melik_> how would i add an entry to the sudoers file to allow printer daemon access for specific users/groups? << could anyone link me to a guide?
[01:31] <dotblank> melik_: i think thats more of a udev
[01:31] <dotblank> thing
[01:31] <andybond13> anyone good with GNU parted???
[01:31] <_Whipper__> silvern: ... umm.. thats where i have found some interesting stuff..
[01:31] <Scooma> andybond13, whatcha need?
[01:31] <fearful> ihcus, like stage6 movies?
[01:32] <andybond13> Scooma, I'm trying to partition my hard drive to install debian
[01:32] <ihcus> yes man
[01:32] <ActionParsnip> andybond13: ask your question
[01:32] <dotblank> ihcus: fearful totem should plug-in to the browser and play div-x
[01:32] <_Whipper__> ihcus: u dont, theres no "free" stuff for that :)
[01:32] <andybond13> fdisk and windows 7 see my partitions,  gparted and the debian installer don't
[01:33] <daftykins> are you running gparted as root?
[01:33] <ActionParsnip> andybond13: does sudo fdisk -l show them?
[01:33] <andybond13> http://paste.debian.net/29857/
[01:33] <andybond13> yes
[01:33] <LjL> melik_: what do you mean "printer daemon access"?
[01:33] <dotblank> I ran stage6 on linux and created a clone of stage6 for use on my lan to share movies, totem will open where stage6 was
[01:33] <xfm> Hello, I would like to modify the default size of the X11 terminal window in which gnuplot plots. Is it possible?
[01:33] <ActionParsnip> andybond13: any command with partitions needs sudo, even to display
[01:34] <jumbers> Does anybody know if there's a way to make the touchpad on a notebook multitouch like the new Macbooks?
[01:34] <andybond13> I know
[01:34] <ihcus> hey guys can u explain me how to plugin totem to browser
[01:34] <andybond13> and I did, but gparted doesn't see it
[01:34] <_Whipper__> xfm: yes
[01:34] <jlink> Alright, I'm getting quite irritated. I can't find a way to use a HashMap or Unordered Set in C++
[01:34] <xfm> _Whipper__: how?
[01:34] <ActionParsnip> andybond13: what are you wanting to do with your partitions?
[01:34] <dotblank> jumbers: that might be a hardware and softwareissue, but mainly it has to do with the bios
[01:35] <_Whipper__> xfm: dunno, but i know theres a way :)
[01:35] <jumbers> dotblank: I would think it would have to do with the way Ubuntu interprets inputs from the touchpad
[01:35] <daftykins> multi-touch is defined by the touchpad i think
[01:35] <daftykins> has to be capable of multiple inputs, which they're not really designed to do i'd imagine
[01:36] <dotblank> jumbers: If the bios is emulateing the touchpad as a ps/2 mouse, then no way, but I don't think there are drivers that support that
[01:36] <xfm> _Whipper__: I know the "size" function in gnuplot but it just zoom the graph without changing the size of the window in which the graph is plotted. I have to expand the window each time...
[01:36] <andybond13> install debian on half of a hard drive
[01:36] <andybond13> which already has windows 7 on the other half
[01:36] <_Whipper__> xfm: what graph do u use?
[01:37] <daftykins> why not just get rid of win7 since it's pretty much useless to be running build 7000 still?
[01:37] <jlink> Does anyone know how to implement ext::hash_map, boost::unorderedset, or google::dense_hash_map? I cant find any examples or useful documentation anywhere.
[01:37] <ActionParsnip> andybond13: use gparted in the livecd to resize the partitions after backing up your data just incase and make some unallocated space, the debian installer will offer to use it
[01:37] <Scooma> andybond13 according to your fdisk dump it looks like you've already got the partitions?
[01:37] <jlink> Nevermind, it's not an ubuntu issue.
[01:38] <andybond13> actionparsnip, scooma, yeah they're there, but the debian installer doesn't see them
[01:38] <andybond13> how do I use the livecd?
[01:39] <Scooma> you'd download it and burn it... then you boot from it
[01:39] <andybond13> you mean the ubuntu install cd
[01:39] <ActionParsnip> andybond13: doesnt see what?
[01:39] <_Whipper__> gdmn,, more beer and then some pizza.. 2min sleep and back to work..
[01:39] <ActionParsnip> andybond13: yes use ubuntu livecd to resize
[01:39] <andybond13> the partitions, the debian installer, like gparted, sees it all as unallocated
[01:39] <pestilence> evolution in hardy would go offline when network manager was disconnected (e.g. on suspend) and then wait to go back online until network-manager had a connection again.  i upgraded to intrepid and evolution doesn't do this anymore.  does anybody have a fix?
[01:39] <slide23> Anyone know of a motherboard selection tool? Specifically I'm looking for a small form factor (micro atx, mini itx etc), 802.11n, SSD (possibly SD card) booting, 1080p video out
[01:40] <andybond13> how would the ubuntu livecd be any different than the debian one?
[01:40] <sebsebseb> !debian
[01:40] <Ubotwo> Ubuntu and Debian are closely related. Ubuntu builds on the foundations of Debian architecture and infrastructure, with a different community and release process. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship - Remember, !repositories meant for Debian should NOT be used on Ubuntu!
[01:40] <ActionParsnip> andybond13: its a different distro
[01:40] <_Whipper__> pestilence: BIOS, wake on lan
[01:40] <_Whipper__> now, im gone.. >
[01:40] <ActionParsnip> andybond13: just use any distro that can resize partitions, you are in #ubuntu so i will naturally advise that
[01:40] <pestilence> _Whipper__: what does that have to do with anything?
[01:41] <jobs> Does anyone have experience streaming to an apple airport express from ubuntu?
[01:41] <ASUSBlue> unable to watch dvd's i have a 64bit os
[01:41] <tobbo> hi friend. can you please help me to find sis 672 display driver for ubuntu 8.10?
[01:41] <dotblank> jobs: is that you Steve?
[01:41] <pestilence> _Whipper__: was that a serious suggestion?
[01:41] <jobs> dotblan, no I am actually jobless and changed my nick ;)
[01:42] <ActionParsnip> jobs: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=142727
[01:42] <xfm> _Whipper__: what does it changes?
[01:42] <rayne_> I seem to be having issues with my sound card. Sometimes it doesn't work and restarting can (often) fix it for a seemly random amount of time.
[01:42] <xfm> _Whipper__: a quite complicated one, with multiplot
[01:42] <Scooma> andybond13 or if you'd rather save a blank cd/dvd, you can use unetbootin to turn the cdrom ISO to a bootable USB key...
[01:42] <ActionParsnip> jobs: apple usually only likes apple stuff to be used with it afaik, apple sucks
[01:42] <rayne_> This time I booted in and it didn't work to start
[01:43] <dft> jobs: try setting up a darwin streaming server
[01:43] <pestilence> rayne_: which version of ubuntu?
[01:43] <dft> I think there's a howto on howtoforge.net for that
[01:43] <xfm> _Whipper__: seems that in version 4.3 of gnuplot u can use "set term x11 size 800,600". But doesn't work in version 4.2
[01:43] <tobbo> help me with sis 672 please..
[01:43] <rayne_> pestilence, 8.10 running on an HP Pav Dv5
[01:44] <pestilence> rayne_: i would suspect a problem with pulseaudio, i have problems with it too
[01:44] <dotblank> Someone familiar?
[01:44] <pestilence> rayne_: try "killall pulseaudio"
[01:44] <Cool_Nick> How do you search for a package that contains file x?
[01:44] <jobs> ActionParsnip, I know apple sucks. But I can stream mp3 songs from ubuntu to the airport express, but cannot make espeak talk to airport express.
[01:44] <LjL> !apt-file | cool_nick
[01:44] <Ubotwo> cool_nick: apt-file is a program that can tell you which package(s) contain(s) a given filename. To install it and generate the database it needs, run "sudo apt-get install apt-file && sudo apt-file update"
[01:44] <pestilence> rayne_: if that fixes your sound problems, then go into the preferences->sound and change your output device to alsa
[01:44] <LjL> Cool_Nick: or just use http://packages.ubuntu.com
[01:44] <jobs> ActionParsnip, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=192806 I was using that link
[01:45] <Dreamglider> i managed to save the ubuntu partition on my old drive, how can i copy it to a new and bigger drive, can anyone help me?
[01:45] <Huufarted> Anybody here ever do a net over network before to install Ubuntu over a LAN?  I can get as far as GRUB trying to load, then I get an Error 22.
[01:45] <ActionParsnip> jobs: id imagine if you choose it as the default sound device it'd work for all apps
[01:45] <dotblank> Huufarted: you been netboot?
[01:45] <rayne_> pestilence, Did nothing, sound still not working.
[01:45] <ActionParsnip> jobs: espeak is hilarious
[01:45] <dotblank> Huufarted: mean*
[01:46] <rayne_> pestilence, I could restart as that seems to fix it... but I should not have to. Makes me feel like I am using Winblows when I have to restart all the time.
[01:46] <Huufarted> dotblank, if that's the proper term, yes.  PXE Linux boot
[01:46] <pestilence> rayne_: use alsamixer to check if the sound is muted?
[01:46] <andybond13> actionparnsip, scooma, I have a mounting script - I can just download the .iso right?
[01:46] <pestilence> rayne_: yea, you shouldn't have to restart.   search for bug reports on your sound card's driver
[01:46] <dotblank> Huufarted: well your in luke cause I have and with about 50 computers successfully install with it
[01:46] <Huufarted> dotblank, awesome.  :)
[01:46] <rayne_> pestilence, It is at 100%
[01:46] <dotblank> luck*
[01:47] <Huufarted> dotblank, it just fails when loading GRUB.  The drive itself has been formatted so I know 100% that it's blank right now
[01:47] <jobs> ActionParsnip, I just want to automate streaming certain events to the airport express using espeak :). I can play normal songs but files with mpeg adts encoding don't seem to play. AFAICT lame just outputs the mpeg adts format and nothing else :(
[01:47] <bohemian_> hi i'm trying install a touchscreen driver, following the guide with "make new" command i get the ff: error:   tclsh: not found
[01:47] <pestilence> rayne_: on my machine, alsamixer shows the pulseaudio mixer by default.  you have to do "alsamixer -c 0" to see the actual hardware mixer
[01:47] <dotblank> Huufarted: to make sure i know the objective, you wan't to install ubuntu over the network? or run it?
[01:47] <bohemian_> make: *** [configSTR.h] Error 127
[01:48] <Huufarted> dotblank: install it
[01:48] <bohemian_> what does it suppose to mean?
[01:48] <Huufarted> dotblank, clarification.  Install it TO a laptop FROM the server.
[01:48] <rayne_> pestilence, At 100% on that one as well
[01:48] <dotblank> Huufarted: how far have you gotton it
[01:48] <ASUSBlue> Please help can't play dvd movies in ubuntu 64bit
[01:48] <pestilence> rayne_: check your /var/log/syslog for errors...
[01:48] <fetale> hi there, I'm having an issue with my firefox
[01:49] <Dreamglider> ASUSBlue: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras :)
[01:49] <Huufarted> dotblank: I can boot, I get:  GRUB Loading stage1.5.  (2 lines down) GRUB loading, please wait... (next line) Error 22
[01:49] <Huufarted> dotblank, that's it
[01:49] <dotblank> Huufarted: is this before or after installing?
[01:49] <don> Don
[01:49] <Huufarted> dotblank, before installing.  It's not a successful netboot, yet
[01:49] <fetale> for whatever reason, none of the history buttons work
[01:49] <dotblank> ah.. ok
[01:49] <fetale> and I cannot use the search bar
[01:49] <dotblank> looks like its not loading the netboot option bios
[01:50] <bohemian_> any idea for my problem?
[01:50] <dotblank> and is trying to boot a broken install?
[01:50] <Huufarted> dotblank, might be, but how is it getting GRUB if not?
[01:50] <ASUSBlue> Dreamglider that wont install 32bit flash right
[01:50] <ASUSBlue> cause i have the 64bit flash is working great for me
[01:50] <dotblank> Huufarted: PXElinux does not even touch grub, so grub must be coming from the disk
[01:51] <Huufarted> dotblank, no disk.  It's booting over the network.
[01:51] <dotblank> Huufarted: you may have to go into your bios and look for a PXE boot option
[01:51] <rayne_> pestilence, I don't have a 'syslog' folder in /var/log
[01:51] <dotblank> Huufarted: does it run PXE?
[01:51] <Huufarted> dotblank, I don't know.  I'm going to assume no since it doesn't get that far.
[01:52] <Huufarted> dotblank: at least I see nothing about PXE unless it flashed too fast.  rebooting to try and see again
[01:52] <dotblank> Huufarted: can you get a boot list? ex f12
[01:52] <sam555> when installing LAMP on ubuntu, when can you configure which folder the mysql db's can go to?
[01:52] <pestilence> rayne_: it's not a folder, it's a file, and you have to view it using sudo (or use the system->administration->system log route)
[01:52] <Huufarted> dotblank, rechecking.
[01:52] <xfm> rm -R ubuntuChatRoom
[01:53] <e3co> ha! xfm
[01:53] <dotblank> Huufarted: Usually you can see PXE do its thing cause dhcp is slow sometimes
[01:53] <Flare183> xfm: What are you trying to do?
[01:53] <xfm> rm -R xfm
[01:53] <Huufarted> dotblank, that was it.
[01:53] <xfm> sudo !!
[01:53] <Huufarted> dotblank, I stand corrected.
[01:53] <dotblank> Huufarted: works now
[01:53] <xfm> ok I go to bed
[01:53] <xfm> bye
[01:53] <e3co> bye'
[01:53] <Huufarted> dotblank, yeah I'm at a boot: prompt.  The only problem is I forgot to extract the .iso to the tftp directory lol
[01:53] <dotblank> whoa
[01:53] <rayne_> pestilence, How do I back out of my user folder in terminal? I can't remember how to get back to where var is
[01:53] <andybond13> actionparsnip, I have mounted the iso, now what
[01:53] <dotblank> Huufarted: ISO!
[01:54] <dotblank> Huufarted: ubuntu offers a netboot image
[01:54] <Huufarted> dotblank, understood.
[01:54] <e3co> Huufarted:  are you working with LTSP?
[01:54] <bohemian_> i am trying to use a driver for ubuntu 6.06 in ubuntu 8.10 from this link: http://touchkit.com/Drivers.htm#ub
[01:54] <bohemian_> will this be a problem? it uses kernel headers
[01:55] <pestilence> rayne_: cd /var/log  ?
[01:55] <Huufarted> e3co, don't know what LTSP is so I'm going to guess no
[01:55] <dotblank> Huufarted: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/intrepid/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/netboot.tar.gz is what you want
[01:55] <e3co> Huufarted:  oh netboot
[01:55] <e3co> Huufarted:  nevermind
[01:56] <rayne_> pestilence, I swear that didn't work the first time I tried it.
[01:56] <Huufarted> dotblank, understood.  Good thing you stopped me, i was using the one from Hardy
[01:57] <bohemian_> i am trying to use a driver for ubuntu 6.06 in ubuntu 8.10 from this link: http://touchkit.com/Drivers.htm#ub
[01:57] <bohemian_> will this be a problem? it uses kernel headers
[01:57] <ActionParsnip> bohemian_: if its to be compiled then it will work fine
[01:57] <Huufarted> dotblank, how is it going to do a full installation from a 9 meg download?
[01:57] <Dillizar> witch drivers i need to download for Nvidia FX5200
[01:57] <dotblank> Huufarted: it pulls packages from the internet
[01:58] <Huufarted> dotblank, gotcha
[01:58] <bohemian_> ActionParsnip: it is not, i keep getting error while compiling it
[01:58] <bohemian_> is there anyone here on ubuntu 6.06 that can compile a driver for me?
[01:58] <ActionParsnip> bohemian_: can yo pastebin them. im gonna nip to bed
[01:59] <e3co> <---uses 8.10 & Jaunty
[01:59] <ActionParsnip> !6.06
[01:59] <Huufarted> btw...  irssi is one of the best packages ever written.
[01:59] <Ubotwo> Ubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) was the fourth release of Ubuntu. See !lts for more details.
[01:59] <dotblank> Huufarted: that tar file is pretty easy all you have to do is extract that to tftpboot
[01:59] <e3co> bohemian_:  compile it in virtualbox
[01:59] <Huufarted> dotblank, already doing that.
[01:59] <e3co> will that work?
[01:59] <eseven73> Huufarted: if used with GNU Screen it's awesome :)
[01:59] <ActionParsnip> it will need compiling with your kernel headers to work dude
[01:59] <Huufarted> dotblank, if I choose a 'cli' install, does that equate to server?
[01:59] <ActionParsnip> so you need to resolve the errors
[01:59] <bohemian_> e3co: is that a package in ubuntu
[01:59] <ActionParsnip> bohemian_: whats it for?
[01:59] <Huufarted> eseven73, GNU screen?
[02:00] <eseven73> !screen
[02:00] <Ubotwo> Screen is a window manager for terminal sessions, also useful over SSH. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Screen
[02:00] <bohemian_> ActionParsnip: it's a driver for touchscreen
[02:00] <ActionParsnip> bohemian_: ah
[02:00] <dotblank> Huufarted: its basicly an install without anything ubuntu-desktop or ubuntu-server
[02:00] <Huufarted> eseven73: checking it out now
[02:00] <Cyrano_De> There is a good irssi+screen tutorial at http://quadpoint.org/articles/irssi
[02:00] <Huufarted> dotblank, ok
[02:00] <Dillizar> i am experiencing difficulties with my Nvidia
[02:01] <bohemian_> ActionParsnip: i got the driver from here: http://touchkit.com/Drivers.htm#ub
[02:01] <chetnick> my sound stop to work (i believe VMware is causing the problem). Is there any way to restart the sound without rebooting?
[02:01] <dotblank> Huufarted: I like netbooting cause it give you wayyy more options
[02:01] <bohemian_> following the guide i encounter errors on the make new command
[02:01] <ActionParsnip> bohemian_: can you pastebin your compile errors
[02:01] <Huufarted> dotblank, this is really humorous...  it's not finding my network adapter
[02:01] <dotblank> ouch...
[02:01] <ActionParsnip> !paste
[02:01] <Cyrano_De> chetnick you can try to unload the kernel modules for sound and re load them
[02:01] <Huufarted> dotblank, you know...  THE ONE IT BOOTED OFF OF.  *chuckle*
[02:01] <dotblank> Huufarted: well that is a problem
[02:02] <bohemian_> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/d7e813949
[02:02] <dotblank> Huufarted: get better hardware or compile custom kernel?
[02:02] <Cyrano_De> Some sound issues I have not been able to rectify without a reboot.
[02:02] <e3co> bohemian_:  yeah but goto the Sun microsystems virtualbox site. Get it. Install it. Install 6.06 then compile it in the virtual machine. Share a folder, and add it to your system. But if I were you I would just try to compile it after making a backup
[02:02] <Huufarted> lol dotblank.  It's not bad hardware.  It's an Asus eee
[02:02] <dotblank> Huufarted: ah that explains it
[02:03] <Huufarted> dotblank, why?  Have you dealt with them/
[02:03] <bohemian_> ActionParsnip: that's what i get on the first command "make new" base on the guide
[02:03] <dotblank> Huufarted: try it with another computer... no not really, Ive dealt with acer aspire though
[02:03] <ActionParsnip> bohemian_: it says it can't find tclsh
[02:03] <bohemian_> yes, is that a file?
[02:03] <Cyrano_De> Anyone seen an 8.10 issue where you could not reset a password.  Passwd fails, sudo passwd fails and System->users and groups fails to reset the password.
[02:04] <ActionParsnip> bohemian_: if you run: aptcache search tclsh you will see you need to run: sudo apt-get install tcl8.5
[02:04] <dotblank> Huufarted: havn't use the eeepc much.. you might have to add modules into initrd. buts thats complicated
[02:04] <e3co> bohemian_:  ignore everything i said
[02:04] <Huufarted> dotblank, try it with another computer?  lol well i can't really do that.  I don't have that option.  I mean I could use a CD drive with an IDE-USB adapter, but I'm going to toy with this for a bit. I'll let you know what I find.
[02:04] <bohemian_> ActionParsnip: oh i see..
[02:04] <bohemian_> e3co: why?
[02:04] <dotblank> Huufarted: k
[02:05] <e3co> I miss understood you and my way wouldn't work any ways. a waste of time
[02:05] <ActionParsnip> bohemian_: the error tells you useful info, as you are compiling you need to get what the package needs to compile manually
[02:05] <ActionParsnip> bohemian_: you may need tcl8.5-dev
[02:05] <bohemian_> e3co: i see thanks, noted it for future use
[02:05] <e3co> bohemian_:  I am generally more useful :)
[02:05] <ActionParsnip> bohemian_: which i dont see on the repo so you will need to get that manually too
[02:05] <bohemian_> ActionParsnip: thanks, i just don't know where to go, Ubuntu total noob
[02:05] <luis97> hi everyone
[02:06] <Cyrano_De> <---generally pretty useless
[02:06] <CompuHacker> I couldn't agree more.
[02:06] <ActionParsnip> bohemian_: you have a lot to learn quick if you are doing this straight away, i'd just get used to using the system a bit rather than mess with that sort of thing
[02:06] <Snaj> hey all, just got a quick question... is there at all a difference between adobe-flashplugin and flashplugin-nonfree <--- which should i have installed
[02:07] <ActionParsnip> Snaj: same thing
[02:07] <Snaj> ok thanks :) why are two shown btw?
[02:07] <ActionParsnip> Snaj: adobe make flash and its (unfortunately) proprietary so isn't free
[02:07] <Snaj> and is the nonfree just a wrapper to dl it from the adobe site?
[02:07] <Dreamglider> i managed to save the ubuntu partition on my old drive, how can i clone it to a new and bigger drive, can anyone help me?
[02:07] <bohemian_> ActionParsnip: ok hold on i'll just see what i will happen next, i badly need this driver and no compiled driver in the supplier site
[02:07] <Dillizar>  ERROR: nvidia-installer must be run as root how can i run it as root?
[02:07] <Snaj> if i get the adobe-flashplugin... will that be more direct?
[02:07] <ActionParsnip> Snaj: it'll download the plugin from adobe.com for you. i always do it manual style
[02:08] <ActionParsnip> Snaj: they will be identical
[02:08] <Snaj> oh ok, i was just curious since the sizes were diff in the package manage
[02:08] <Snaj> r\
[02:08] <ActionParsnip> Snaj: try them both, see whats different
[02:09] <Snaj> ok thanks for your help :D
[02:09] <bohemian_> ActionParsnip: can you take a look on this guide to see what else should encounter along the process using a stock ubuntu 8.10 installation?   http://touchkit.com/proi/drive/Installation%20Note.pdf
[02:09] <Dillizar> ERROR: You appear to be running an X server; what is X server
[02:09] <e3co> <---forced to work on windows servers
[02:10] <melik> what is the path to the directory containing man files?
[02:10] <e3co> :-$
[02:11] <elviz1975> hi all-big place!  i'm having trouble booting.  grub error 11.  would someone mind helping me out with this?
[02:11] <itachi> hi all.........
[02:12] <Athenon> i just installed bind9, but it wont start....fopen permission error.  http://pastebin.com/m510c03f4
[02:12] <Dillizar> can anybody help me with installing Nvidia river??
[02:12] <itachi> elviz1975: what ur problem ?
[02:12] <ezerhoden> melik: /usr/share/man/ seems to contain the files
[02:12] <dieselsmoke> melik: /usr/share/doc/ i think
[02:12] <daftykins> Dillizar, what's wrong with the v177 driver?
[02:13] <Dillizar> daftykins, i need 173 or smt like that
[02:13] <bohemian_> what is getcwd?
[02:13] <elviz1975> well, i'm not sure itachi.  i made some changes to menu.lst and now get a grub error 11
[02:13] <elviz1975> when booting
[02:13] <dotblank> bohemian_: Get curerent working directory
[02:13] <daftykins> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-173
[02:13] <ed1t> anybody here ever install bugzilla? im getting internal server error
[02:13] <coreyman> So I put a new partition into fstab, and i told it to mount at /home ... when i try to log in, it says Cannot enter home directory.  Using /. So I entered failsafe and edited fstab to mount the disk in /mnt but I still get the error, what am i doing wrong.
[02:13] <itachi> elviz1975: what up with ur menu.lst?
[02:13] <bohemian_> dotblank: i see, so i just need to point to the right directory, thanks
[02:14] <bohemian_> or not
[02:14] <daftykins> i think you need to actually create a config for it to run Athenon
[02:14] <Athenon> daftykins:  i didnt in the lab we did today...and it created a default config.
[02:14] <daftykins> you're doing labs with Ubuntu?
[02:15] <daftykins> not at Uni in England are you ^_^
[02:15] <elviz1975> @itachi once all is reliable after install, i like to simplify menu.lst to make it cleaner
[02:15] <Athenon> no.  this is aside from the lab though.  the lab inspired me to setup my own dns server
[02:15] <Athenon> but bind refuses to run
[02:15] <daftykins> is this ubuntu server?
[02:15] <bejostobbo> hi... anyone have sis 672 driver?
[02:15] <Athenon> yep
[02:15] <elviz1975> and removed all except main ubuntu and win xp from the list
[02:15] <dotblank> Athenon: what school do you goto?
[02:15] <daftykins> run 8.04 LTS
[02:15] <Athenon> university of houston at victoria
[02:15] <daftykins> it'll be around longer than 8.10 server iirc
[02:16] <itachi> elviz1975: the answer is.......... re-install :P lol
[02:16] <daftykins> there's no point running your own DNS server though
[02:16] <elviz1975> maybe i should go with a "default" menu.lst?
[02:16] <dotblank> daftykins: yes there is
[02:16] <elviz1975> what is grub error 11?
[02:16] <ed1t> anyone here installed bugzilla?
[02:16] <Athenon> daftykins:  ive had the same errors with other programs.  it still needs to be fixed, unfortunately
[02:16] <daftykins> not really dotblank
[02:16] <daftykins> oh right, that's odd then
[02:16] <neil_d> what happened to the vmware-player package?  it seems to have disappeared
[02:17] <dotblank> daftykins: if you run an intranet or have a parked domain
[02:17] <coreyman> So I put a new partition into fstab, and i told it to mount at /home ... when i try to log in, it says Cannot enter home directory.  Using /. So I entered failsafe and edited fstab to mount the disk in /mnt but I still get the error, what am i doing wrong.
[02:17] <xangua> ﻿Hi everyone, good night. I was hopping ypu can helpe with a weird problem in the Update Manager, this is the issue---> Information on the packages were updated  XX days ago; this is showed even after i update my GNU/Linux a few minutes ago
[02:17] <daftykins> dotblank, i was clearly assuming his setup to just be at home as he said, i'm not talking about other situations
[02:17] <Athenon> daftykins:  the kernel logger daemon also refuses to run, for instance
[02:17] <failers> is there a xamp/wamp equilievant for linux users , an apache server with pre configured configs and a friendly gui :) ?
[02:17] <dotblank> daftykins: he has the best reason, to learn :)
[02:18] <daftykins> dotblank, i don't appreciate you telling me this kind of thing.
[02:18] <failers> oh nvm xampp existed for linux
[02:18] <Athenon> daftykins:  but the kld doesnt give the same error...it just.....fails
[02:18] <bohemian_> anyone please take a look on this error regarding getcwd:, what will i do with this?   http://pastebin.com/d2030a639
[02:18] <bejostobbo> anyone have sis display driver?
[02:18] <daftykins> is it in a VM Athenon ?
[02:18] <Athenon> daftykins:  its running on xen, if thats what you mean
[02:18] <daftykins> virtual machine, so yeah Xen'd count
[02:19] <daftykins> so your host is server/desktop ?
[02:19] <Athenon> daftykins:  server only.  :P
[02:19] <daftykins> heh i did my Uni final project on Xen
[02:19] <xangua> ﻿Hi everyone, good night. I was hopping you can help me with a weird problem in the Update Manager, this is the issue---> Information on the packages were updated  XX days ago; this is showed even after i update my GNU/Linux a few minutes ago
[02:19] <keres> If you run your computer, turn it off, then unplug it, if the hard drive is too hot to touch is that too hot?
[02:19] <neil_d> coreyman: have you confirmed that the partition is getting mounted ?
[02:20] <dotblank> xangua: have you tried restarting the session?
[02:20] <daftykins> not really keres no, depends on the manufacturer, some just run quite hot
[02:20] <xangua> yes
[02:20] <keres> daftykins: maxtor
[02:20] <daftykins> my 150GB older Western Digital raptor runs quite hot
[02:20] <xangua> this problem is almos a month
[02:20] <keres> daftykins: 80gb maxtor
[02:20] <daftykins> ugh Maxtor
[02:20] <dotblank> xangua: are your date/time settings right?
[02:21] <xangua> yes, 5, march, 2009
[02:21] <dotblank> xangua: have you tried a restart?
[02:21] <xangua> yes
[02:21] <bohemian_> dotblank: any idea? http://pastebin.com/d2030a639
[02:21] <neil_d> daftykins: mine did too, I put a 'hdd cooler' on mine (a metal shield with two small fans).
[02:22] <xangua> this is an issue from almost a month ago, i have my GNU/Linux updaed
[02:22] <daftykins> raptor?
[02:22] <daftykins> my velociraptor is quite cool :)
[02:22] <daftykins> nice and fast for Ubuntu to run from too
[02:22] <xangua> but the Update Manager always shows me i haven't update the list
[02:22] <neil_d> daftykins: mine are Seagate.
[02:22] <daftykins> very quick bootlogo progress bar
[02:22] <daftykins> yeah i used to run seagate
[02:22] <daftykins> that company look to be going down the pan right now
[02:23] <dotblank> bohemian_: are you trying to compile somthing? ./ stands for cwd
[02:23] <xangua> and a minutes ago i turned on my pc and updated Firefox, it still showsme i havent update the list
[02:23] <bohemian_> dotblank: yes for a driver
[02:23] <neil_d> what happened to the vmware-player package?  it seems to have disappeared :(
[02:23] <coreyman> niel_d: i am following a tutorial right now ill let you know how that goes
[02:24] <Guest87164> hello, i just here to ask if the Adobe flash which is 10 the new version is there anything better? like alternative.
[02:24] <dotblank> bohemian_: have you tried make without sudo?
[02:24] <bohemian_> ok
[02:24] <bohemian_> dotblank: same error
[02:24] <neil_d> coreyman: ok
[02:25] <xangua> ﻿Guest8716there is Gnash, i also use a script for the videos in Youtube so i can watch them with my local Videoplayer
[02:25] <bohemian_> dotblank: trying to follow this guide.. http://touchkit.com/proi/drive/Installation%20Note.pdf
[02:25] <bohemian_> still in the first step
[02:25] <dotblank> bohemian_: have you tried make ./
[02:25] <Guest87164> is it better?
[02:26] <Huufarted> dotblank: I give up.  :)  CD on USB incoming...
[02:26] <bohemian_> dotblank: make: Nothing to be done for `./'.
[02:26] <xangua> well Gnash is not better, yet
[02:26] <dotblank> make new?
[02:26] <Guest87164> ok then thanks for the Info.
[02:27] <Belinrahs> is there an x64 version of compiz available? want to determine whether i should install 32 or 64bit ubuntu
[02:27] <daftykins> Gnash takes a decent processor to work, it wasn't able to play youtube videos smoothly for me on a 1.2GHz ultra low voltage intel core solo laptop
[02:27] <daftykins> which is quite shocking
[02:28] <icio> Hi!!
[02:28] <ovide> Random: New to ubuntu, can someone tell me what so many servers I join have "null channel lists"?
[02:28] <Scooma> Belinrahs, i use compiz on my x64 ubuntu
[02:28] <napostrophet> Same here
[02:28] <keanu> What should I do if sudo and su are both segfaulting?
[02:28] <Belinrahs> alrighty
[02:28] <bohemian_> dotblank: can you give me a sample?  make ./ new  is that it?
[02:28] <fetale> has anybody had issues with firefox and pidgin after the latest kernel install?
[02:28] <fetale> pidgin gives me a glibc error
[02:29] <keanu> It appears they only segfault on the proper password, too
[02:29] <Scooma> keanu, check your dmesg for a hardware problem
[02:29] <Belinrahs> i just built myself a new rig with a intel i7 and want mah open-sourcez
[02:29] <keanu> Scooma, [345989.272091] sudo[20400]: segfault at 0 ip b7d2bb8b sp bfc5fa80 error 4 in pam_smbpass.so[b7ccf000+12a000]
[02:29] <Dillizar> hmm
[02:29] <Belinrahs> aren't most of the packages for ubuntu also available x64?
[02:30] <Free0ne> fetale: custom kernel or ubuntu packaged kernel?
[02:30] <Scooma> Belinrahs, yes
[02:30] <icio> @ keanu: maybe i'm stupid but have you try to re-install its from synaptic?
[02:30] <Dillizar> who was the guy helping my on PM
[02:30] <Free0ne> Dillizar =]
[02:30] <dotblank> bohemian_: make new
[02:30] <Belinrahs> @Scooma: thanks much!
[02:30] <fetale> Free0ne: ubuntu packaged, latest update killed it :(
[02:30] <dotblank> bohemian_: no ./
[02:31] <keanu> icio, I would, except gksudo also fails
[02:31] <Scooma> it would if your pam is segfaulting
[02:31] <Free0ne> fetale: Hmm maybe you should try reinstalling pidgin? sudo apt-get remove pidgin && sudo apt-get install pidgin
[02:31] <bohemian_> dotblank: make: getcwd: No such file or directory       make: *** No rule to make target `new'.  Stop
[02:32] <fetale> Free0ne, already tried that, still no luck
[02:32] <fetale> firefox has an entirely different set of issues
[02:32] <fetale> history doesn't work
[02:32] <keanu> Oh, also, some potentially useful information: My laptop's been noticeably slower, and about a week ago when I restarted it, it complained about the OS missing
[02:32] <fetale> neither does bookmarks, but my .mozilla directory works...
[02:32] <keanu> (grub not even loading)
[02:32] <fetale> right permissions, etc.
[02:32] <Scooma> keanu, did dmesg report on a hardware fault?
[02:32] <dotblank> bohemian_: what foler are you in
[02:33] <dotblank> bohemian_: folder*
[02:33] <victoria> helloooo
[02:33] <e3co> hi
[02:33] <victoria> how is everyone doing tonight?
[02:33] <icio> maybe http://fixunix.com/aix/337254-segmentation-fault-su.html
[02:33] <helpme> I want to increase the resolution on Ubuntu, but it won't got over 800x600
[02:33] <helpme> help
[02:33] <helpme> what should I do\'
[02:33] <helpme> ?\
[02:33] <alanbshepard70> in Ubuntu is it common for the file manager to become unresponsive when copying files or for the whole computer to become unresponsive when burning a disc? On versions of Ubuntu previous to 8.10 I don't remember having this issue.
[02:33] <victoria> i want to change my splash screen.. i just download the one i like.. its a tar.gz file.. now that is the next step? where should i put it?
[02:33] <Scooma> icio sounds like a faulty disk, what do you think?
[02:33] <bohemian_> dotblank: user/Desktop/touchkit/include#      base on the guide then ran make new
[02:34] <Free0ne> fetale: Hmm, you may need to submit a bug report
[02:34] <bohemian_> does that mean some folder is missing?
[02:34] <e3co> victoria:  sudo apt-get install startupmanager
[02:34] <Free0ne> do you know what happens when you run pidgin in the terminal?
[02:34] <coreyman> neil_d: cannot move /home to /old_home : device or resource busy, how do i make it unbusy >.>
[02:34] <dotblank> bohemian_: try sudo apt-get install build-essential
[02:34] <Free0ne> any error message?
[02:34] <dotblank> bohemian_: after that run "make new"
[02:34] <Free0ne> fetale: wait you said a glibc error?
[02:34] <bejostobbo> anyone have sis672 display driver?
[02:34] <bohemian_> ok
[02:34] <e3co> victoria:  look under system administration startup manager and add your splash screen
[02:34] <fetale> Free0ne, yea, glibc
[02:34] <keanu> Scooma, not that i saw: startup info, wifi, "EXT3-fs warning: maximal mount count reached, running e2fsck is recommended", "apm: BIOS not found", usb stuff, etc, down until cups segfaulted, and then sudo/su/gksudo failing
[02:35] <helpme> How do I increase resolution to 1280x800?
[02:35] <Scooma> dotblank, maybe  a configure before a make?
[02:35] <fetale> can't really reinstall that one...
[02:35] <helpme> it won't go higher then 800x600
[02:35] <Free0ne> fetale: did you try sudo apt-get install glibc-2.7-1 ?
[02:35] <sebsebseb> coreyman: :D
[02:35] <victoria> ok
[02:35] <helpme> help
[02:35] <Free0ne> ah
[02:35] <fetale> hm
[02:35] <victoria> after i install it you mean?
[02:35] <icio> but the upgrade of kernel gone well or give you some error?
[02:35] <victoria> yeah
[02:35] <keanu> (I had gone to localhost:631 to move a print job)
[02:35] <coreyman> sebsebseb hi
[02:35] <e3co> victoria:  yeah
[02:35] <fetale> Free0ne, not yet!
[02:35] <dotblank> Scooma: yes, but because tthe install doc he has just says to use make, i belive a make file already exists
[02:35] <Free0ne> fetale: hah, I'm actually pretty new with linux xD only about a month using it, just trying to share my 2cent
[02:35] <helpme> I need to increase my resolution in Ubuntu, help
[02:35] <Scooma> keanu, yeah you need to run a fsck on your disk. is it just the one disk in your laptop?
[02:35] <Scooma> dotblank, no worries ;)
[02:35] <keanu> Scooma, yeah
[02:35] <e3co> brb gotta go pee!
[02:36] <nivardus> DO IT
[02:36] <sebsebseb> e3co: you told about a thousand people :d
[02:36] <helpme> How do I increase resolution?
[02:36] <helpme> to 1280x800?
[02:36] <e3co> sebsebseb:  isnt that great!
[02:36] <helpme> Ubuntu by default won't go over 800x600
[02:36] <coreyman> cannot move /home to /old_home : device or resource busy, how do i make it unbusy >.> I am in recovery mode. root shell prompt
[02:36] <sebsebseb> e3co: ok
[02:36] <keanu> Scooma, think I should back up files first, if it was complaining about the OS missing before?
[02:36] <opera> !plug-ins
[02:36] <fetale> hm, it's what I'm afraid of, already installed.
[02:36] <sebsebseb> coreyman: told you making  seperate homes after install wasn't easy
[02:36] <coreyman> helpme install video drivers
[02:37] <coreyman> sebsebseb idc.
[02:37] <helpme> coreyman how?
[02:37] <sebsebseb> coreyman: system administartation hardware drivers?
[02:37] <Scooma> keanu, make a backup onto a usb of important docs/pics
[02:37] <coreyman> helpme what video card do you have
[02:37] <opera> who can tell me what is plug-ins?
[02:37] <bohemian_> dotblank: same error...  http://pastebin.com/m5624c361
[02:37] <helpme> VIA Mirage 3
[02:37] <coreyman> sebsebseb no, the persons name is helpme
[02:37] <helpme> (SiS 762)
[02:37] <sebsebseb> helpme: yeah   systems administartion  hardware driers
[02:37] <keanu> Scooma, k
[02:37] <icio> dio che casin!!
[02:37] <sebsebseb> helpme: top panel.  system >  administartion > hardware drivers
[02:38] <bpat1434> I'm running ubuntu server 8.10 with samba and I'm in ubuntu 8.10 trying to mount it and I get a permission denied error.  The same username (different passwords) are the owners.  The password being entered is correct.  Any ideas what else can cause the permission denied error?
[02:38] <Free0ne> hmm
[02:38] <ed1t> anybody knows how to change skins in bugzilla?
[02:38] <Free0ne> You running ubuntu 8.10 fetale?
[02:38] <dotblank> bohemian_: can you paste the output of ls -l?
[02:38] <coreyman> I need to move my home directory, but it says its in use, how do i make it not in use so i can move it.
[02:38] <Scooma> keanu, after that, google a little on fsck so you can understand what will happen
[02:38] <fetale> Free0ne, I am
[02:38] <sebsebseb> coreyman: Live CD
[02:38] <helpme> sebsebseb it's blank
[02:38] <coreyman> sebsebseb o.
[02:38] <helpme> there's nothing in Hardware Drivers
[02:38] <coreyman> sebsebseb ok then.
[02:38] <opera> what si plug-ins
[02:38] <keanu> Scooma, I'm familiar with fsck, I just haven't run it on this laptop much
[02:38] <coreyman> wait no sebsebseb
[02:39] <usser> bohemian_, your make file seem to think getcwd is a valid command
[02:39] <sebsebseb> !home
[02:39] <coreyman> wait yes.
[02:39] <usser> bohemian_, try editing it, replace getcwd with pwd
[02:39] <neil_d> coreyman: generally that means the a terminal is 'cd' to somewhere in '/home'
[02:39] <Guest93265> hi, exists vmware for ubuntu ?
[02:39] <coreyman> neil_d: yea, how do i cd out.
[02:39] <coreyman> neil_d or do i just load from live cd
[02:40] <usser> Guest93265, yes
[02:40] <daftykins> yes you can download and install vmware server on ubuntu
[02:40] <Scooma> keanu, okay so that's where you are then. backup your important files and then fsck. after that you might need to run your package manager (synaptic or apt-get) and just verify that everything is fine
[02:40] <Free0ne> fetale, I'm sorry I don't know what to tell you. sorry I couldn't help you resolve, keep trying and you could send a bug report
[02:40] <Guest93265> thanks
[02:40] <Free0ne> because I'm sure there are others with the same problem
[02:40] <helpme> HELP, how do I increase my resolution (sobs)
[02:40] <thomastaco> can someone help me download and install silk road online?
[02:40] <helpme> I should have just bought a Mac
[02:40] <Scooma> Guest93265, you can download the player for free from vmware's site to test an image
[02:40] <tritium> !fixres | helpme
[02:40] <sebsebseb> helpme:  ok have you installed the graphics card drivers?
[02:41] <bejostobbo> helpme: same but mine sis 672
[02:41] <coreyman> helpme install video drivers
[02:41] <helpme> what's fixres, tritium?
[02:41] <coreyman> helpme sebsebseb told you how
[02:41] <Jordan_U> helpme: Are you sure that you have the proper video drivers installed?
[02:41] <tritium> helpme: see the info I had ubottu provide you above.
[02:41] <linux_guy> i should have bought a windows machine
[02:41] <helpme> bejostobbo mine is a SiS 672 as well
[02:41] <victoria> Ok, I am in start-up manager now. Now. what is the difference between bootloader themes and unplash themes?:S
[02:41] <fetale> yea, I'll try to reconfigure first
[02:41] <IndyGunFreak> helpme: that device sucks under linux
[02:41] <linux_guy> (lol)
[02:41] <bejostobbo> Jordan_U: where i can get it?
[02:41] <helpme> what should I do?
[02:41] <fetale> thanks Free0ne
[02:41] <linux_guy> !vbox
[02:41] <IndyGunFreak> helpme: follow the link tritium gave you..
[02:41] <sebsebseb> helpme: under hardware drivers    I told you how to get in that
[02:42] <sebsebseb> helpme: are there any drivers that it wants to install?
[02:42] <Scooma> helpme how long have you been using ubuntu for?
[02:42] <linux_guy> ten minutes lol
[02:42] <Scooma> :)
[02:42] <IndyGunFreak> linux_guy: why do you think you should ahve bought a windows machine?
[02:42] <bigjigalo>  hello. the packed kernel version for ubuntu is 2.6.27-generic, is that higher or lower than linux-2.6.27-rc7.tar.bz2,
[02:42] <Huufarted> quit
[02:43] <linux_guy> IndyGunFreak, i like spyware / virus invading my world.  plus i enjoy paying overpriced amounts for software
[02:43] <opera> !ForecastFox
[02:43] <IndyGunFreak> linux_guy: to each their own i guess.
[02:43] <Scooma> bigjagolo, the rc7 is a release candidate
[02:43] <linux_guy> IndyGunFreak, i was joking with "helpme" who said he should have bought a mac
[02:43] <IndyGunFreak> oh ok..lol
[02:43] <usser> bigjagolo, higher, in a sense ubuntu kernel is patched by ubuntu kernel team so there's more to it
[02:44] <bigjigalo> Scooma: so is that higher or lower?
[02:44] <bejostobbo> does anyone have sis672 display driver?
[02:44] <IndyGunFreak> bejostobbo: i don't believe there is one.. could be wrong.
[02:44] <Scooma> bejostobbo, what is on sis's web site?
[02:44] <coreyman> sebsebseb its quite simple to move your home dir, i have been just having problems cause i am using a terminal cd'd into home dir, live cd should fix all that.
[02:44] <bigjigalo> usser: who has higher.. rc7 or generic? cause i got a wifi card and am reading stuff was patched from rc7+ so i dunno if ubuntu has it patched
[02:44] <bohemian_> dotblank:  ls -l        total 0
[02:44] <linux_guy> !vbox
[02:44] <neil_d> coreyman: cd to somewhere else like 'cd /'
[02:45] <rmrfslash> Anyone have an XPS 1640?
[02:45] <linux_guy> does that mean vbox free is only available for gutsy?
[02:45] <bohemian_> usser: i'm sorry how will i do that?
[02:45] <sebsebseb> linux_guy: no it's not up to date
[02:45] <usser> bigjagolo, its higher, ubuntu generic is based on 2.6.27 released
[02:45] <victoria> hi again, im in startup manager now.. so now i will add a usplash theme.. i need to add it as a tar.gz or first i should extract it?
[02:45] <usser> bigjagolo, rc7 was before that
[02:45] <bejostobbo> there are nothing there
[02:45] <bohemian_> thanks a lot for help and patience guys really need to make it work
[02:45] <sebsebseb> linux_guy: open sourcce edition is in the repo for hardy and ibex, but that lacks USB suppourt.  so  if you want USB you get the other version from their site
[02:46] <rmrfslash> anyone?
[02:46] <rmrfslash> no?
[02:46] <Dillizar> Free0ne,
[02:46] <bigjigalo> ok thanks, so the latest install should have current patched drivers for wifi 5100agn from sony vaoi to allow injection and monitor modd
[02:46] <bigjigalo> mode
[02:46] <bigjigalo> ?
[02:46] <Scooma> bejostobbo, release candidates are less than the release
[02:46] <linux_guy> sudo apt-get install virtualbox-ose works for me?
[02:46] <Scooma> bejostobbo, what's your wifi card?
[02:46] <usser> bigjagolo, im not sure 5100, last i heard it was flaky
[02:46] <bejostobbo> atheros
[02:46] <Athenon> kernel logger daemon issues...any ideas?  http://pastebin.com/d7882ac28
[02:46] <bigjigalo> Scooma: 5100 agn, am waiting for a alfa card 500src in the main
[02:46] <bigjigalo> 500mwv crap
[02:46] <bigjigalo> mail
[02:47] <bigjigalo> well alrighty
[02:47] <coreyman> neil_d: i booted into live disc, permission denied moving all files in /old/home to /new/ find . -depth -print0 | cpio --null --sparse -pvd /new/
[02:48] <coreyman> using find . -depth -print0 | cpio --null --sparse -pvd /new/
[02:49] <coreyman> nvm
[02:49] <coreyman> sudo before cpio worked.
[02:49] <Scooma> bejostobbo, if they say they've patched it you could grab the source, make it and built it into the kernel
[02:50] <bohemian_> usser: yo might be talking about the changing getcwd in makefile script but can find the word there, i'm trying to compile this:  http://touchkit.com/Drivers.htm#ub
[02:50] <neil_d> coreyman: ok,   what does "ls -ld /new' return?
[02:50] <Scooma> sounds complicated but after a few times of doing it, it becomes second nature
[02:50] <danes_> hello, is there anyone that knows how to install multiple boot on a usb?
[02:50] <Scooma> danes_, do you already have a boot on the usb?
[02:51] <usser> bohemian_, can you pastebin Makefile
[02:51] <danes_> Scooma, yes
[02:51] <DasE1> ﻿danes_: ﻿ubottu: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[02:51] <bejostobbo> Scooma: sorry. i'm new with ubuntu and linux. i don't understand at all
[02:52] <DasE1> also !dualboot
[02:52] <danes_> DasE1, I already have it. But I need to install other distributions
[02:53] <bohemian_> usser: http://pastebin.com/d1fafa4ac
[02:53] <Scooma> danes_, is it a windows or ubuntu boot?
[02:53] <danes_> I have been looking for days trying several methods, but none of those works
[02:53] <fearful> Scooma, it can be both
[02:53] <DasE1> ﻿danes_:complete description of your project ?
[02:53] <Scooma> bejostobbo, then best wait a little bit?
[02:54] <opera> !adblock
[02:54] <usser> bohemian_, do you have tclsh? type tclsh on the terminal. does your prompt change?
[02:54] <danes_> I want to include p-magic, ubuntu, and fedora on a usb, and have a partition in fat32 for the rest of my files
[02:54] <Scooma> bejostobbo, but if you want to do it yourself, learn how to compile the driver, and then learn how to integrate the driver file (typically the *.ko) into the kernel... it's a good thing to learn
[02:54] <bohemian_> usser: here's the makefile inside utility/ folder  http://pastebin.com/d35ccb52
[02:55] <danes_> Scooma, I installed it using unetbootin
[02:55] <Scooma> danes_, okay so does the usb boot with grub?
[02:55] <Scooma> danes_, okay great
[02:55] <usser> bohemian_, last pastebin is invalid,
[02:55] <bohemian_> usser: i get % in the command prompt
[02:55] <usser> bohemian_,
[02:55] <usser> bohemian_, can you run ./configure ?
[02:55] <bohemian_> usser: http://pastebin.com/d35ccb521
[02:55] <bejostobbo> Scooma: it's nice chalenge. i'll love it...
[02:56] <Scooma> danes_, what you need to do is learn how to use grub (how to edit the menu.lst), and add in different sections that point at different partitions on the usb key
[02:56] <usser> bohemian_, looks fine
[02:56] <danes_> Scooma, not really sure :s. I read somewhere that renaming ubninit and ubnkern, and pointing in syslinux.cfg to the kernels of the extra image I want to load
[02:56] <Scooma> bejostobbo, once you get the hang of it, it really is quite simple. i do it all the time for my scsi cards (they're unsupported in the kernel, but that's fine)
[02:57] <danes_> the thing is that it does not work that way :(
[02:57] <bohemian_> usser: i ran ./configure inside tclsh, i get  invalid command name "./configure"
[02:57] <usser> bohemian_, no quit tclsh
[02:57] <usser> bohemian_, run ./configure from the directory where the Makefile is
[02:58] <danes_> Scooma, by any chance do you know where can  I find a tutorial or manual on using grub?
[02:58] <bohemian_> usser: bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
[02:58] <neil_d> what happened to the vmware-player package?  it seems to have disappeared :(
[02:58] <Scooma> danes_, mostly from ubuntu.com, put grub in the search box and away you go! :)
[02:58] <Scooma> danes_, i recommend 1st) learning how the file structure of the menu.lst is
[02:59] <usser> bohemian_, you're probably missing some dependencies, but since they dont have a configure file its hard to tell which ones
[02:59] <Scooma> danes_, then learning how you can add new entries to point at the different partitions
[02:59] <usser> bohemian_, try emailing the developers, ask what it needs to compile
[02:59] <bohemian_> usser: oh no...
[03:00] <bohemian_> usser: i see 6 config files in the makefile drectory
[03:00] <Athenon> Weird errors at bootup...seems kernel related....anybody have any ideas?  http://pastebin.com/m26e0d75a
[03:00] <gyx> uibuntu :)
[03:00] <usser> bohemian_, can you pastebin the results of ls -al in that directory?
[03:01] <usser> bohemian_, im sorry i'm not that much help. i just dont feel like compiling that stuff myself,
[03:01] <bohemian_> usser: total 0
[03:01] <Scooma> danes_, if after that, it isn't working, you might want to ask in #grub (or some irc channel) about specific issues to the partition (you should have error messages)
[03:01] <usser> bohemian_, eh? in the directory where your sources and Makefile is?
[03:02] <bohemian_> usser: yes, anyway just letting you know the guide and package is for ubuntu 6.06
[03:04] <bohemian_> does that make a difference?
[03:04] <Scooma> Athenon, sorry can't open at the moment can you give me one line?
[03:04] <naymyowin> hello
[03:05] <naymyowin> dear all
[03:05] <naymyowin> i got postfix problem
[03:05] <naymyowin> can anyone help me?
[03:05] <Athenon> Scooma: it gives some kernel errors, some mount errors, and then this:  * Starting kernel log daemon...                                         [fail]   <--------- hangs for like 5 minutes before failing
[03:06] <evilgeek> i have a machine that's unwilling to boot from CD.  i think i can boot it off a USB nerdstick, though.  is there an ubuntu install image for nerdsticks?
[03:06] <Scooma> Athenon, sounds like your fstab (file mounting instructions) is having a problem with where your logging directory is supposed to go
[03:06] <Scooma> Athenon, did you add a disk recently?
[03:06] <Athenon> Scooma:  nope.  its a vps.
[03:06] <Athenon> Scooma:  it literally was working great, then all of a sudden i killed the mysql processes, rebooted to try to get them back, and all hell broke loose :S
[03:07] <Scooma> evilgeek, use unetbootin to build a usb boot image. try getting easy peasy (small asus eee specific ubuntu live image) and use that
[03:08] <keanu> Scooma, this appears to be what i'm having - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba/+bug/260687
[03:08] <evilgeek> cool.
[03:08] <evilgeek> thanks.
[03:09] <naymyowin> naymyowin@naymyowin-laptop:~$ sudo -i
[03:09] <naymyowin> [sudo] password for naymyowin:
[03:09] <naymyowin> root@naymyowin-laptop:~# clear
[03:09] <naymyowin> root@naymyowin-laptop:~# clear
[03:09] <naymyowin> root@naymyowin-laptop:~#  cd /
[03:09] <FloodBot3> naymyowin: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:09] <Athenon> Scooma:  i think i fixed the 2 kernel errors - 1 was wine, so i purged wine...and the other was a setting for a kernel version later than what i have installed, so i commented it out
[03:09] <Rolle> which channel to join for launchpad/bugs helps?
[03:09] <Scooma> keanu, can you priv msg it to me? I cannot use firefox at the moment
[03:10] <Rolle> i have question about backtrace
[03:10] <jdsbluedevl> hi, I'm trying to run a Mono app, but I'm getting errors about Mono not being properly installed.  I thought Mono was supposed to be installed on Ubuntu by default.  What do I need to apt-get/aptitude to fix this?
[03:10] <mattrek> exit
[03:11] <Scooma> Athenon, so your system boots okay apart from the hang?
[03:11] <daftykins> apt-cache search mono
[03:11] <Rolle> is Bryce Harrington here?
[03:11] <Athenon> Scooma: This would probably be the offending log  * Mounting local filesystems...                                                mount: /sys already mounted or /sys busy mount: according to mtab, sysfs is already mounted on /sys
[03:11] <Athenon> Scooma:  it BOOTS ok, but im always getting fopen errors and permission errors
[03:12] <Scooma> Athenon, can you do a postbin of your fstab
[03:12] <Athenon> /etc/fstab?
[03:12] <Scooma> and your dmesg   (yes, /etc/fstab thanks)
[03:12] <Rolle> does 9.04 have a dedicated channel?
[03:12] <jdsbluedevl> can someone tell me how to get Mono installed properly?
[03:12] <bullgard4> man rsync: "rsync contacts a remote system on either of two different ways: i.) using a remote-shell program as the transport (such as ssh or rsh) or  ii.)..."  RFC4253: "SSH works over any 8-bit clean, binary-transparent transport." Where is the concept "transport" explained?
[03:13] <Scooma> jdsbluedevl, mono has a package
[03:13] <Jordan_U> jdsbluedevl: What have you tried and what is the problem?
[03:13] <jdsbluedevl> I tried to run a program that was written for Mono, but it's giving me weird messages about how Mono is not properly installed
[03:13] <jdsbluedevl> I thought Mono was installed by default, or rather it should be
[03:14] <Athenon> Scooma:  http://pastebin.com/m11a573b0
[03:14] <jdsbluedevl> if the package is mono-common I have that installed
[03:14] <Athenon> Scooma:  or...postbin? XD
[03:14] <Jordan_U> jdsbluedevl: What program and can you pastebin the exact error?
[03:14] <Scooma> Athenon, thanks. i'll get to it in a sec. i'm locked up with a disk burn-in
[03:15] <Athenon> Scooma:  great, thanks.  you're by far the most helpful person i've ever talked to regarding this issue :)
[03:15] <jdsbluedevl> it's a program someone wrote for exporting pictures and documents with GEDCOM files from Geni called GedTweak
[03:15] <jdsbluedevl> pastebin in a second
[03:15] <hunter> what program is it that will run the ubuntu desktop more smoothly - LDXE?
[03:15] <hunter> I can't remember the initials lol
[03:15] <Athenon> (I've been trying to fix this for like 2 weeks now :()
[03:15] <crdlb> hunter: lxde
[03:16] <hunter> thanks crdlb
[03:16] <jdsbluedevl> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/127029/
[03:16] <Rolle> does 9.04 have a dedicated channel?
[03:16] <Scooma> Athenon, okay your fstab and dmesg all look clean. next is your /var/log/messages
[03:16] <hunter> crdlb, I have a 3 GB computer with nvidia graphics on ubuntu, normal to have a very slight lag?
[03:16] <bullgard4> Rolle: Yes.
[03:16] <Rolle> bullgard4:  can you ponit me there :)
[03:16] <Scooma> keanu, cheers, reading that
[03:17] <hollywoodb> Rolle: #ubuntu+1
[03:17] <daftykins> Rolle, #ubuntu+1
[03:17] <keanu> :)
[03:17] <Rolle> thanks buds =)
[03:17] <Athenon> Scooma:  http://pastebin.com/df23481f
[03:17] <crdlb> hunter: depends on what you mean
[03:17] <Royall> After I install a font in Ubuntu, do I need to keep the .tff file in its original location? Or can I delete it?
[03:17] <Scooma> keanu, did you do the command that was offered in the bugtrak?
[03:18] <gaintsura> has anyone had any lockups with tweetdeck that cause all system resources to be maxxed?
[03:18] <keanu> Scooma, I have to boot into recovery mode to do that, since I can't without root
[03:19] <hunter> crdlb : I am having a brief lag, especially when I type on skype it takes longer for the message to send, however, web pages load very quickly
[03:19] <stewart__> how do i get a list of running apache modules?
[03:19] <crdlb> hunter: that could be nvidia's slowness at 2d acceleration and opengl compositing
[03:20] <Free0ne> When I run sudo make install and then delete the source directory is there any way to uninstall that software automatically?
[03:20] <Scooma> keanu, you're going to need a live cd then I'm guessing? can someone else suggest a workaround? keanu's pam is segfaulting so he can't auth a package remove/reinstall
[03:20] <jdsbluedevl> Jordan_U: did you get the pastebin?
[03:20] <bigjigalo> hello, i have a new out the box sony vaoi vgn-cs215j ... 4gb ram, 250gb hd.. my question is. Which version to install... x86 or x64?
[03:21] <bigjigalo> also it has a centrino chip
[03:21] <coreyman> how come i cant enter home directory
[03:21] <Jordan_U> jdsbluedevl: Yes, it's saying that it's missing a Visual Basic assembly, that doesn't come standard. I'm looking to see if there is a package for it
[03:21] <coreyman> i mounted /dev/sda3 in /home and it says can enter home directory
[03:21] <bigjigalo> intel core duo cpu
[03:21] <Royall_> I'll ask again:
[03:21] <coreyman> can
[03:21] <coreyman> t
[03:21] <Royall_> After I install a font in Ubuntu, do I need to keep the .tff file in its original location? Or can I delete it?
[03:22] <hollywoodb> bigjigalo: x86
[03:22] <bigjigalo> hollywoodb: thanks
[03:23] <Scooma> Athenon, what distribution of ubuntu are you on? intrepid?
[03:23] <bohemian_> what is "tcl " and which package is this related to?
[03:23] <Athenon> Scooma:  yep.  it was originally 7.04...upgraded to 7.10, then 8.04....then that worked fine for a few months, then the error randomly started...so u pgraded to 8.10 to try to fix it, but it didnt fix it
[03:23] <flippo> Tcl is a command language.
[03:23] <bigjigalo> bohemian_: tcl is a scripting language
[03:24] <bigjigalo> bohemian_: u should google it
[03:24] <bohemian_> i see
[03:24] <Scooma> Athenon, cos i'm seeing that it's an intrepid-specific error
[03:24] <Athenon> Scooma:  it started in 8.04... XD
[03:24] <flippo> (Originally used as an embedded control language, but occasionally used like any other scripting language.)
[03:25] <Free0ne> Royall_: Once you have the .ttf in your ~/.fonts directory you can remove any other copy of it just make sure the one in ~/.fonts is there
[03:25] <Royall_> thanks
[03:25] <bigjigalo> whats the best recommended version to download? for a new fresh out the box laptop? intrepid?
[03:25] <Athenon> Scooma:  either way, i just want it fixed...i install bind9, get a ton of fopens....mysql wont run except if its root...and none of that happened before those errors started :(
[03:25] <Scooma> Athenon, sorry i wrote that wrong, it's fixed in intrepid
[03:26] <Scooma> Athenon, yes, the core prob is the logging daemon is screwed
[03:26] <Athenon> Scooma:  oh.  ive tried purging it and reinstalling it, but it doesnt work :S
[03:26] <Scooma> Athenon, once that works, everything else should be fine
[03:26] <Royall_> What is the command to force remove everything in the trash? I have a folder that just won't delete, even after 'sudo rm -rf ~/.Trash/*'
[03:26] <Scooma> Athenon, which one? klogd?
[03:26] <Athenon> Scooma:  yeah
[03:26] <Athenon> and sysklogd
[03:27] <Scooma> Athenon, have you got a /var/log?
[03:27] <Athenon> Scooma:  yeah
[03:27] <Athenon> Scooma:  but SOME of the logs quit logging the day the error happened, naturally.
[03:27] <Free0ne> Royall_, I honestly don't know what to tell you there. What kind of file are you trying to remove?
[03:27] <Scooma> Athenon,    does your var log look like this:   drwxr-xr-x 18 root root  4096 2009-03-06 08:23 log
[03:27] <bejostobbo> hi there
[03:28] <Scooma> ie. chown'd, chgrp'd etc
[03:28] <Athenon> drwxr-xr-x 17 root     root     4096 Mar  5 20:53 log
[03:28] <Royall_> Free0ne: It's a folder, it contains the untarred tarball source of deluve 1.1.3
[03:28] <Scooma> Athenon, what ver of syslogd do you have?
[03:28] <bigjigalo> hello i have a new fresh out the box sony vaoi, and someone recommended to install x86 with duo centrino... shouldnt 64x be better if it has over 2-3gb ram? 4gb ram+ and windows is already running it at x64
[03:29] <Athenon> Scooma:  im not sure, and i dont know how to check :S
[03:29] <Royall_> Free0ne: This is a recurring problem, everytime I delete the untarred folder
[03:29] <Royall_> Free0ne: Someone gave me a working command before, but I lost where I saved it
[03:29] <Scooma> Athenon, run synaptic package manager
[03:29] <Scooma> (system->admin -> syn pack mgr)
[03:29] <Athenon> Scooma:  isnt synaptic gui-only?  :P
[03:30] <Athenon> Scooma:  its a server version, console-only, vps running on xen :P
[03:30] <Scooma> Athenon, cos i want you to see that your installed matches the latest
[03:30] <hor> if you downt want gui use apt-get
[03:30] <Free0ne> Royall_: Hmm, weird. Do you get any error message when trying to rm -rf?
[03:30] <Royall_> Free0ne: no
[03:31] <Athenon> hor: how do i check a version with apt-get though? XD
[03:32] <Scooma> Athenon,    sudo dpkg --list | grep -i klog
[03:32] <Athenon> Scooma:  ii  klogd                             1.5-2ubuntu6               Kernel Logging Daemon
[03:32] <Athenon> ii  sysklogd                          1.5-2ubuntu6               System Logging Daemon
[03:33] <Scooma> hmmm
[03:33] <Athenon> i dont normally paste, but it was 2 lines XD
[03:33] <LSSTUDIO> quelqu'un parler francais ?
[03:33] <Free0ne> Royall_: I'd definitely like the answer to that too, trying to google for it. Let me know if you figure it out, like to add to my database in the back of my head to trouble shooting things xD
[03:33] <bastid_raZor> medibuntu is still for 8.10?
[03:34] <Scooma> Athenon,    ummm....       mount | grep sysfs
[03:34] <Flare-laptop> !fr | LSSTUDIO
[03:34] <Athenon> Scooma:  1 line output... sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
[03:34] <coreyman> how do i make a user own a file/dolder
[03:35] <coreyman> folder*
[03:35] <jdsbluedevl> Jordan_U: I was reading and came across a compiler called vbnc.  I think this might be it, but I don't see it in the repos
[03:35] <bastid_raZor> coreyman; sudo chown -R user folder/
[03:35] <homeskill> is it true that you shouldn't apt-get install things as root, or even sudo to root for security reasons? if so what should i do?
[03:35] <coreyman> thanks bastid_razor
[03:36] <storbeck> homeskill: That's not true at all.
[03:36] <bastid_raZor> homeskill; use sudo apt-get ..
[03:36] <bastid_raZor> !sudo > homeskill
[03:36] <homeskill> i know what sudo is, thats why i asked about it :p
[03:36] <Scooma> Athenon, hold a tic. i think i know the prob
[03:36] <bastid_raZor> homeskill; using sudo will do everything your wanting then.
[03:37] <homeskill> storbeck ive heard that you should apt-get source and build the package as fakeroot then make install as root
[03:37] <Athenon> Scooma:  anything you say.  you honestly cant believe how thrilled i am just to get some REAL help with it :)
[03:37] <coreyman> homeskill never use root
[03:37] <coreyman> homeskill use sudo
[03:37] <homeskill> sudo uses root though
[03:37] <coreyman> ok
[03:37] <homeskill> why is no one comprehending what im asking :P
[03:37] <coreyman> you are asking what is sudo
[03:37] <homeskill> NO
[03:37] <coreyman> sudo != root
[03:38] <Flare-laptop> !sudo | coreyman
[03:38] <homeskill> sudo = temp root to run a command
[03:38] <Flare-laptop> !root
[03:38] <coreyman> homeskill right
[03:38] <homeskill> ok now, will someone please answer my actual question :p
[03:38] <Scooma> Athenon, can u do a   uname -a   for me? i see it in your log already but i just want to make sure
[03:38] <bastid_raZor> homeskill; you don't need to be root for anything. use sudo instead of being root
[03:38] <Athenon> Scooma:  Linux subaru 2.6.18.8-linode16 #1 SMP Mon Jan 12 09:50:18 EST 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
[03:39] <coreyman> homeskill and that was should i use apt-get in such a way to download and install as fake root
[03:39] <Scooma> okay yes
[03:39] <storbeck> homeskill: See my PM
[03:39] <homeskill> my question is is it safe to build programs using sudo apt-get because that installs them AS root
[03:39] <storbeck> homeskill: Yes
[03:39] <Scooma> Athenon, the problem you've got is that your binaries expect a newer kernel. check this:  http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-461194.html
[03:40] <homeskill> if it's not safe to compile a program as root, why is it safe to apt-get as root
[03:40] <storbeck> homeskill: I su into root and install programs. It doesn't hurt anything
[03:41] <coreyman> homeskill apt-get is from ubuntu repository right?
[03:41] <hunter> !wireless
[03:41] <Athenon> Scooma:  thats a list of available kernels...which one should i use?
[03:41] <Athenon> Scooma:  sorry, link: http://pastebin.com/m6cc524e9
[03:41] <redvamp128> coreyman:  not necessarily if you add to the sources list -- like adding budgeted (for wine) also mediabuntu.
[03:42] <redvamp128> coreyman:  also adding some repositories from launchpad (for LXDE) or others.
[03:42] <Scooma> Athenon,  boot your 2.6.27....
[03:43] <Scooma> that should be your default for the moment
[03:43] <Athenon> Scooma:  ok, lemme reboot
[03:43] <coreyman> ok if you add insecure repositories i dont think it would be safe
[03:43] <coreyman> other than that you are fine.
[03:44] <icefox> Hey there, can someone point me to where I can find the source for the 'Preferred Application' application that lets me select the browser I want to use?
[03:44] <jdsbluedevl> Jordan_U: have you found the program?
[03:45] <Scooma> icefox, that's on Windows
[03:45] <coreyman> i booted into live cd to give my user "coreyman" privlages with chown to a folder, it says invalid user.. what am i doing wrong
[03:45] <ezguy> hi, anyone got the wireless to work on ps3?
[03:45] <icefox> Scooma: no that is in Gnome
[03:45] <crdlb> icefox: apt-get source gnome-control-center
[03:45] <icefox> crdlb: thanks
[03:45] <coreyman> ezguy playstation 3? i thought this was ubuntu
[03:45] <crdlb> that'll put it in a folder in the current directory
[03:45]  * Scooma grins
[03:46] <ezguy> yes
[03:46] <Athenon> Scooma:  i still get the mount thing and the hardware clock thing...no logger errors, though.  HOWEVER...i can no longer ssh into my server....
[03:46] <ezguy> i installed ubuntu 8.10 on ps3
[03:46] <jigp> hello guys my clock has gone including the system tray, the menu in upper corner, mene,system,administration nothing...how to get back the tray?
[03:46] <redvamp128> icefox:  system- preferences- then preferred applications form there you can set your default browser.
[03:46] <melik> jigp: what do u mean?
[03:46] <coreyman>  booted into live cd to give my user "coreyman" privlages with chown to a folder, it says invalid user.. what am i doing wrong
[03:46] <ezguy> can't get the wpa to work, any ideas?
[03:47] <melik> right click your panel on the top > add applet
[03:47] <icefox> redvamp128: yes, but I was looking for the source to that application :)
[03:47] <redvamp128> !sudo | coreyman
[03:47] <melik> and search for various applets.
[03:47] <ezguy> anyone running ubuntu on ps3?
[03:47] <IndyGunFreak> ezguy: what device, and what version of ubuntu
[03:47] <ezguy> 8.10
[03:47] <Scooma> Athenon,  but you got console yeah? you might need to fix up your ssh.config or just make sure you've got the latest ssh client cos there was a few fixes a few months ago due to a ssh hack that appeared
[03:48] <jigp> melik: im using gnome 8.04 ubuntu. I cannot see the menu in the upper corner,the system , is gone.all I can see now is my desktop folders.where is the menu?
[03:48] <IndyGunFreak> what wireless device?
[03:48] <melik> jigp: right click your panel > add applet
[03:48] <Athenon> Scooma:  yeah...ive got a lish console from linode
[03:48] <coreyman> redvamp128 im using freakin sudo
[03:48] <melik> and search for gnome menu and drag it to ur panel
[03:48] <mezquitale> anyone here uses a linux phone?  I want a phone that can allow me to add appz like ubuntu
[03:48] <Scooma> coreyman, you don't need to create a user on the live cd. just run it normally and then when you sudo typically you hit enter for the password
[03:49] <coreyman> im not creating a user on the live cd
[03:49] <coreyman> i mounted a disk, and im trying to change privlages of a folder
[03:49] <Scooma> ah sorry
[03:49] <Athenon> Scooma:  ssh wasnt started for some reason
[03:50] <redvamp128> icefox:  you could possibly try using this page look for the ! Repositories Using the Command Line - Community Ubuntu Documentation <https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/CommandLine> but you have to know the package name for that preffered application
[03:50] <Mike94287> I recently put Ubuntu on an old computer of mine with very little RAM. Unfortunately it's still running slow so I was considering removing Ubuntu and putting Debian on the computer with gnome so there's less stuff on the computer. Can someone tell me if this would make a difference?
[03:50] <Scooma> Athenon,  all good then!
[03:50] <Athenon> Scooma:  mysql wont run under mysql still tho...trying bind9 now
[03:50] <mezquitale> Mike94287, try xubuntu
[03:50] <icefox> redvamp128: crdlb pointed me to the source, thanks though
[03:50] <Athenon> Scooma:  still get fopen errors and stuff too
[03:50] <melik> w/ 4
[03:50] <redvamp128> icefox:  also I think you can use your software sources list to add the source code repository
[03:50] <coreyman> mike94287 you just need a low ram linux build
[03:50] <Scooma> Athenon, you might need to repair the db
[03:51] <Athenon> Scooma:  repair which db?
[03:51] <IndyGunFreak> Mike94287: xubuntu, crunchbang linux(ubuntu w/ openbox), wouldboth be fine, how "low" on ram are you?
[03:51] <Mike94287> mezquitale: I know xubuntu is lightweight but I'm not sure if it would make a big difference from what I've heard. The only thing the computer is used for is internet browsing and piding.
[03:51] <Scooma> Athenon, open your system log and work through the error messages
[03:51] <btthalion> I have attempted to install Ubuntu using the mini iso image (I only had a single 600MB CD-RW on hand). Problem is, after I go through the install process, there is no GUI installed and I boot into a shell.  Anyone have ideas on how to get a normal ubuntu install going given where I'm at?
[03:52] <IndyGunFreak> Mike94287: how much ram does the system have?
[03:52] <dft> btthalion: sudo apt-get install gnome*
[03:52] <merther> Can someone help me connect up to my wireless network.  The network is detected, the password is wpa and wpasupplicant is installed.  When connecting it just fails to connect and asks for the password again.  Attempting to connect through the network manager in xubuntu 8.10
[03:52] <Mike94287> IndygunFreak: About 184 mb
[03:52] <redvamp128> btthalion:  to start an install with the alternate cd -- the comand is "cli"  to start the command line installer.
[03:52] <IndyGunFreak> Mike94287: yeah, thats not enough..
[03:52] <Scooma> btthalion, don't waste your time. go out and buy a dvd
[03:52]  * Scooma grins
[03:53] <Athenon> would this be ssh? Mar  5 21:43:49 subaru init: tty1 main process (2558) killed by TERM signal
[03:53] <IndyGunFreak> Mike94287: i'd look at crunchbang linux.. if all you do is surf, and use pidgin.. it would do well for that.
[03:53] <IndyGunFreak> Mike94287: its basically ubuntu, w/ openbox.
[03:53] <Mike94287> IndyGunFreak: Okay I'll look into it, thanks.
[03:53] <Scooma> Athenon, thats the first terminal
[03:54] <Scooma> Athenon, typically console or whatever you've linked into the server
[03:54] <Athenon> Scooma:  im not seeing anything that should be causing all this funkiness....in fact, now my IRC server and stuff isnt running...cron seems to be down?
[03:54] <redvamp128> btthalion:  just make sure if you are using the alternate cd that you are connected to the web though- because it grabs the latest packages from the web to do the install.
[03:54] <btthalion> dft: that fails due to broken packages... dependencies that are not installable, apparently.
[03:55] <dft> btthalion: meh
[03:55] <btthalion> redvamp128: I'm not sure how installing with the CLI tool will help matters?
[03:55] <dft> btthalion: get a dvd:)
[03:55] <Athenon> wait no, there ir comes my bad
[03:55] <btthalion> redvamp128: I used 'install' and that whole process completed.
[03:55] <redvamp128> btthalion:  I thought you were using the alternate cd-- and a lot of people download that by mistake and get a boot to a prompt
[03:56] <Jared__> can anyone tell me why my sound and video is running in half time?
[03:56] <btthalion> dft, scooma: It's late, nothing is open now... :)
[03:56] <inkd_denver> hey guys, does anyone know why my sound would be playing half speed in both the browser and media player?
[03:56] <MTecknology> I'm trying to burn an avi to a dvd with brasero - but I'm getting the error "It is not possible to write with the current set of plugins"
[03:56] <Athenon> Scooma:  the kernel log daemon is still failing to start...i dont get any message about it at startup though....that bad?
[03:56] <btthalion> redvamp128: Oh, no, the mini iso. As far as I know it just downloads the packages needed to install whatever distribution I pick (ubuntu, kubuntu, edubuntu, etc.)
[03:56] <Scooma> Athenon, postbin your /var/log/syslog
[03:57] <Scooma> btthalion, heh
[03:57] <dft> btthalion: if you're really keen on not going throught the whole reinstall process I think you might gain some success with apt-get install x-window-system-core xserver-xorg gnome-desktop-environment for starters
[03:57] <jdsbluedevl> can someone tell me where to find mono-vbnc?  it isn't in the repos, but it should be
[03:57] <Scooma> btthalion, can't wait one day? but yeah try dft's suggestion
[03:58] <btthalion> Scooma: Ha, I can in theory, but what would I do with the rest of my day then? Watch TV or something?
[03:58] <btthalion> dft: Giving that a shot...
[03:58] <coreyman> i stuck /dev/sda3 in fstab to mount at startup, but its not mounting.... what am i doing wrong
[03:58] <IndyGunFreak> !info mono-vbc
[03:58] <bastid_raZor> coreyman; use the UUID
[03:58] <dft> read this thread, it's a bit dated but may guide you http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-186298.html
[03:58] <Athenon> Scooma:  http://pastebin.com/m122f81cc
[03:58] <jdsbluedevl> !info mono-vbnc
[03:59] <btthalion> dft: Nifty, thanks :)
[03:59] <jdsbluedevl> there, ubottu agrees with me, mono-vbnc isn't there
[03:59] <coreyman> bastid_razor can you give me some syntax to use to mount /dev/sda3 in /home on startup with a variable UUID
[03:59] <jdsbluedevl> it should be, so where is it?!!!
[03:59] <mikewu> jdsbluedevl: http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/mono-vbnc try this site
[03:59] <Jared__> I'm using a Foxconn NF4UK8AA and whenever I play video or audio it plays in half time
[04:00] <jdsbluedevl> that's for Jaunty, I have Intrepid
[04:00] <mezquitale> Mike94287, xubuntu SHOULD make a difference, there are other distros for limited resources, xubuntu is the one i recommend unless you want to bother configuring your monitor by hand
[04:00] <bastid_raZor> coreyman; i have 2 minutes before i have to run... sudo blkid will give you the UUID of /dev/sda3
[04:00] <slops17> hey
[04:00] <coreyman> oh i realize that, i need the other syntax bastid_razor
[04:01] <slops17> i just installed kubuntu on my laptop
[04:01] <Jared__> I heard there was some kind of BIOS issue with linux, but I don't know if that's true or not
[04:01] <slops17> but how do i switch to kde3 and not kde4
[04:01] <merther> Can someone assist me in connecting to my wireless network through network manager using a wpa password?
[04:01] <coreyman> bastid_razor like UUID= 12421048721491274 /home stuff here
[04:01] <bastid_raZor> http://pastebin.com/f2b56c0f3 that is my fstab .. coreyman
[04:01] <coreyman> thanks bastid_razor
[04:01] <bastid_raZor> i have to run.. good luck ... coreyman
[04:02] <coreyman> see you later bastid_razor
[04:02] <Mean_Admin> ok weird, I made a new partition with Ubuntu's partitioner (which seems to be gparted) and this new ext3 partition is a filesystem which ubuntu proclaims not be able to read when I ask it to open the partition from Places - 120GB(partition)
[04:02] <coreyman> mean_admin try to format it?
[04:02] <coreyman> mean_admin or do you have files on it.
[04:03] <Scooma> Athenon, see in your postbin, line 129
[04:03] <Mean_Admin> coreyman: no files but I've formatted it once wiht gpartioner from inside the system
[04:03] <coreyman> mean_admin use gparted on a live disc
[04:03] <Athenon> Scooma:  that would probably be part of the 30 fopen: permission denied errors i got upon installing it? XD
[04:03] <slops17> any one?
[04:03] <Mean_Admin> coreyman: I don't understand, why didn't gparted work from inside the OS ?
[04:03] <neil_d> just installing vmplayer, it is using a .bundle, I haven't seen these before, are they new? or just a vmware thing?
[04:04] <inkd_denver> does anyone know of a package that could run OSX leopard inside linux? through an emulator?
[04:04] <Scooma> Athenon, is this a production server or your own machine?
[04:04] <coreyman> mean_admin im not sure, i just providedd an alternative :D
[04:04] <Athenon> Scooma:  its not just bind thats the problem...mysql is getting permission errors it shouldnt as well
[04:04] <Athenon> Scooma:  production server methinks
[04:04] <Athenon> Scooma:  but i dont mind rebooting or anything
[04:04] <slops17> i have just installed kubuntu from the iso i got of the site last night but i would like to use kde3 not 4
[04:04] <Scooma> Athenon, how did you install bind?
[04:05] <Athenon> Scooma:  apt-get install bind9
[04:05] <slops17> how do i do this
[04:05] <Scooma> Athenon, as root?
[04:05] <itai_michaelson> hi, i'm having problems exporting big OO files to PDF, i get an error saying "resources exhausted", i googled and it seems like my /tmp is too small, how can i enlarge it , is mount -o remount,size=5M /tmp the command?
[04:05] <strebor> slops17: if you're using intrepid, then i don't think there's any easy way to do that, you could try something like <http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=960742>, but i'm not sure how well it would work
[04:05] <Athenon> Scooma:  yep.
[04:05] <Mean_Admin> coreyman: good enough for me :)
[04:05] <slops17> ok
[04:05] <neil_d> inkd_denver: you could try vmplayer, not emulated, but it should run.
[04:05] <slops17> i will try
[04:05] <Scooma> Athenon, do you have a /var/cache/bin ? and what are it's perms?
[04:05] <slops17> thanks
[04:05] <mezquitale> anyone here uses a linux phone?  can anyone recommend me a phone that will work on ubuntu to store your contact info migrated from outlook?
[04:05] <coreyman> when i use blkid what is sec_type
[04:06] <inkd_denver> ok thanks a lot, is that in the package installer
[04:06] <Athenon> Scooma:  i have bind, but not bin.  drwxrwxr-x  2 root     bind     4096 Jan  7 19:31 bind
[04:07] <neil_d> coreyman: did you sort out your problem?
[04:07] <coreyman> neil_d pretty much, but new problem i am working on resolving myself, since it was nearly working earlier and i broke it and i need to get back to that nearly working state so i can try something i found
[04:08] <Scooma> Athenon, your probs are exactly this guy's probs:  http://www.howtoforge.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-18780.html
[04:08] <Scooma> Athenon,  can you work through some of the suggestions there?
[04:08] <Athenon> Scooma:  yeah.  but i mean...mysql is ALSO getting permission errors it shouldnt.  the problem is system-wide i think.
[04:09] <Scooma> Athenon, also, make sure you have a user bind living in /etc/passwd
[04:09] <itai_michaelson> can anyone help me increase my /tmp ?
[04:09] <jdsbluedevl> can SOMEONE help me find the mono-vbmc package?!  I ASKED REPEATEDLY now, and no one has answered my plea!
[04:10] <Scooma> jdsbluedevl, hold on whilst I ignore you
[04:10] <Sirisian> I'm writing a program that deletes core files. So are core files always just called 'core'?
[04:10] <jdsbluedevl> Scooma: thanks a lot, jackhat
[04:10] <jdsbluedevl> I'm so GLAD to know I'm getting HELP here
[04:10] <Sirisian> And if more than one is created it overwrites old core files?
[04:10] <itai_michaelson> jdsbluedevl, what is that package? for mono?
[04:10] <coreyman> lets see if i can get /dev/sda3 to mount this time neil_d that's the current problem.
[04:11] <neil_d> coreyman: good!  I have been having hardware troubles myself.
[04:11] <coreyman> someone suggested using UUID, so i am now
[04:11] <jdsbluedevl> it should be mono-vbmc
[04:11] <jdsbluedevl> but it isn't there
[04:11] <itai_michaelson> jdsbluedevl,  for mono?
[04:11] <jdsbluedevl> I guess it's mono-common
[04:11] <jdsbluedevl> doesn't matter, as it should be installed by default, right?
[04:11] <neil_d> coreyman: oops! that sounded bad.
[04:11] <coreyman> hmm, its still not mounting
[04:12] <Jared__> has anyone heard of a foxconn BIOS compatibility problem with Ubuntu??
[04:12] <itai_michaelson> jdsbluedevl, what do you need it for?
[04:12] <Scooma> Sirisian, which programs are crashing a lot?
[04:12] <Jared__> I read somewhere that you have to edit then recompile the BIOS to get it to work right...
[04:12] <jdsbluedevl> to run a Mono program that depends on VB assembly
[04:12] <Sirisian> Scooma, oh none. School assignment thing with vague instructions.
[04:13] <itai_michaelson> jdsbluedevl, i suggest you ask in #mono, i couldn't find such package for ubuntu
[04:13] <Sirisian> Scooma, I'm just curious if they are always called 'core'.
[04:13] <jdsbluedevl> they're telling me to come back here
[04:13] <jdsbluedevl> they're giving me the "I don't work with Ubuntu" crap
[04:14] <Athenon> Scooma:  i still get the same thing.  http://pastebin.com/mb9604ff
[04:14] <itai_michaelson> jdsbluedevl, is that the name of the package?
[04:14] <jdsbluedevl> the package should be mono-vbmc
[04:14] <Scooma> Sirisian, ah...
[04:14] <Sirisian> Scooma, oh sorry for wasting your time. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Core_dump#Naming
[04:14] <Sirisian> I didn't scroll down on the page I guess
[04:15] <itai_michaelson> jdsbluedevl,  it seems like there is no ubuntu package http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=com.ubuntu%3Aen-US%3Aunofficial&q=mono-vbmc+ubuntu&btnG=Search
[04:15] <coreyman> neil_d sweet, i got further now.
[04:15] <coreyman> neil_d seemed my mount point did not exist >.>
[04:15] <itai_michaelson> jdsbluedevl, maybe you can try an RPM and convert with alien
[04:15] <jdsbluedevl> good, can you find one for me, because I can't
[04:16] <neil_d> coreyman: ok.  don't forget to check the premissions of the mount point once you have done the mount.
[04:16] <rww> itai_michaelson: I don't think that Ubuntu mounts /tmp as a separate partition normally. Can you copy the output of "df -H" to paste.ubuntu.com?
[04:16] <jdsbluedevl> itai_michaelson: googling mono-vbmc rmp gives me junk
[04:16] <jdsbluedevl> *rpm
[04:17] <Athenon> Scooma:  installing mysql, i get the same errors...long string of fopen permission errors.
[04:17] <itai_michaelson> rww, i'm looking for an advice on a similar error, the solution calls for that , here http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=207644 (post 148)
[04:17] <Scooma> Athenon, try running it as  sudo apt-get install etc.etc.
[04:17] <Scooma> not in a root shell
[04:18] <itai_michaelson> jdsbluedevl, try googling with mono-something suse
[04:18] <Athenon> Scooma:  ok, lemme try that
[04:18] <coreyman> neil_d yea i just had to change that.
[04:18] <coreyman> neil_d from recovery mode
[04:19] <Nythain> does anyone know if i have to change any failregex's for fail2ban from ubuntu repos to work properly with any certain ubuntu daemon logs, like for proftpd and apache?
[04:19] <rww> itai_michaelson: okay. Well, copy "df -H" and I'll take a look.
[04:19] <coreyman> sweet it loaded up :D neil_d !!
[04:19] <itai_michaelson> thanks
[04:19] <constantine_> I've had ubuntu freeze up a couple times, is there a key combination that is analgous to ctrl-alt-del?
[04:19] <Athenon> Scooma:  same thing.  and it happens when i remove the packages too.
[04:19] <jdsbluedevl> itai_michaelson: yeah, mono-basic suse 2.2 works
[04:19] <jdsbluedevl> so I guess d/l and alien it?
[04:20] <C-S-B> ctrl-slt-bsckspace
[04:20] <C-S-B> *alt
[04:20] <coreyman> neil_d what troubles are you havin
[04:20] <rww> constantine_: Ctrl-Alt-Del works sometimes. Ctrl-Alt-Backspace will restart X11 on Intrepid and below. Ctrl-Alt-F2 should drop you to a terminal. Worst case scenario, use REISUB.
[04:20] <rww> !reisub | constantine_
[04:20] <C-S-B> constantine_, or drop to a shell and kill whatever is freezing
[04:21] <Nythain> constantine_: alt+sysrq+k will kill everything in the current virtual console, including X
[04:21] <coreyman> brb logging into ubuntu on desktop
[04:21] <Athenon> Scooma:  tried to reinstall klogd, since it wouldnt start...trying to get it to start.  same thing.  long string of fopen errors :(
[04:22] <constantine_> I get all of that except "drop to a shell", "including x", and what to type once in terminal
[04:23] <C-S-B> x is your gui layer
[04:23] <Nythain> constantine_: even better than alt+sysrq+k would probably be alt+sysrq+o for a reboot... and sysrq keys shouldnt require a shell, even if X is locked up
[04:23] <C-S-B> shell is your cli
[04:23] <constantine_> what is sysrq?
[04:23] <Scooma> Athenon, pastebin your /etc/sudoers please
[04:23] <xXxHACKERxXx> AndyCrawford where are you from
[04:23] <constantine_> lol and cli?
[04:23] <rww> !reisub > constantine_
[04:23] <Nythain> constantine_: PrtScr button
[04:24] <C-S-B> constantine_, CLI = command line interface
[04:24] <norty> what is the easiest way to use cgi to write to the html that called it, i want to use cgi to do some calculations then display them on the page
[04:24] <Nythain> lol... i show up lookin for fail2ban help, and end up throwin out a bit of sysrq help myself :)
[04:24] <Athenon> Scooma:  http://pastebin.com/d6b8f50ad
[04:25] <constantine_> so I drop to a terminal, assuming that works, and do what?
[04:25] <Scooma> Athenon, this is your server isn't it, not a company server
[04:25] <Nythain> constantine_: you shouldnt have to drop to a terminal with SysRq, but if you CAN drop to a terminal, then you dont need SysRq, you'd be in luck and could just sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart (or kdm if using kubuntu)
[04:26] <Athenon> Scooma:  yeah.  oh...is that what you meant by production?
[04:26] <itai_michaelson> rww, http://paste.ubuntu.com/127044/
[04:26] <Scooma> Athenon, heh yes
[04:26] <Nythain> constantine_: and if all else failed, and you sill had keyboard input (in order to drop to a terminal) then you could just "sudo reboot" to reboot the machine :)
[04:27] <Athenon> Scooma:  oh, sorry.  i thought you meant production as in....my primary server as opposed to test servers.  sorry, my apologies
[04:27] <Nythain> So does anyone know if fail2ban in the repos is packages with proper ubuntu failregex's ?
[04:27] <daftykins> what do people use sys rq for?
[04:28] <daftykins> saw someone refer to it for changing tty's or something before
[04:28] <daftykins> but surely that's just ctrl+alt+Fx
[04:28] <rww> itai_michaelson: Was your / partition almost full recently or something?
[04:28] <Nythain> daftykins: accomplishing taskes when X or the system is entirely locked up... saves on hard reboots
[04:28] <n8tuserf> daftykins-> to sync, to reboot
[04:28] <itai_michaelson> rww, maybe, have been editing videos
[04:28] <daftykins> what do you press? doesn't do anything here
[04:28] <Nythain> also oom killer
[04:29] <Nythain> daftykins: alt+sysrq+<letter for task at hand>
[04:29] <daftykins> 'task' ?
[04:29] <daftykins> 0o
[04:29] <neil_d> coreyman1: been having trouble with a drive of my raid1 array.  I think there is a problem with the motherboard.
[04:29] <constantine_> thanks nythain
[04:29] <Scooma> Athenon, there are so many faults and errors in there i would just rebuilt it if it was mine
[04:29] <Nythain> constantine_: np
[04:29] <constantine_> thanks rww
[04:29] <rww> itai_michaelson: It looks like the emergency overflow /tmp system kicked in. Restarting should fix it (and don't completely fill up your / partition in the future ;))
[04:30] <Athenon> Scooma:  can i do that without having to back databases and configs, etc up?
[04:30] <Scooma> Athenon, you might want to just use the desktop install too, not the server one
[04:30] <itai_michaelson> rww, i need to reboot right, not just X ,right?
[04:30] <rww> itai_michaelson: correct
[04:30] <Scooma> Athenon, do you have a backup?
[04:30] <itai_michaelson> rww, ok thanks
[04:30] <rww> itai_michaelson: you could also try sudo umount /tmp, that might work
[04:30] <Athenon> Scooma:  nope.  and since its in a datacenter with limited hdd space, backing up would be a literal major project
[04:30] <rww> itai_michaelson: but yeah, rebooting should definitely clear it.
[04:31] <Athenon> and restoring the backup would probably be just as bad
[04:31] <coreyman1> neil_d what sort of problems
[04:31] <itai_michaelson> rww, unmount and then mount again?
[04:31] <Scooma> hmmmm
[04:31] <rww> itai_michaelson: nope. Usually, nothing's specially mounted to /tmp, it's just a directory in /
[04:32] <coreyman> ok new problem here, anyone ever had to drag files of a NTFS windows OS, i am cd'd into the directory, and i see Documents and Settings
[04:32] <itai_michaelson> rww,  thank you very much, have a nice day
[04:32] <itai_michaelson> or night
[04:32] <coreyman> I cd into Documents and Settings and do a dir, and i see nothing
[04:32] <coreyman> what's up with that
[04:32] <rww> coreyman: If you're using Vista, you'll need to cd into Users, not Documents and Settings
[04:32] <Mean_Admin> so ext3 partitions created with livecd should be mounted with no problem under installed Ubuntu ?
[04:32] <coreyman> rww yes it is a vista install, ill try that
[04:33] <neil_d> coreyman: all sorts of messages when booting, saying ata4.0 is having trouble, and a very slow boot.
[04:33] <n8tuserf> Mean_Admin-> do you expect otherwise?
[04:33] <coreyman> neil_d oh, sounds hardware related.
[04:34] <Mean_Admin> n8tuserf: well I used gparted from within ubuntu and real weird weird stuff is happening
[04:34] <Scooma> Athenon, your basic problem is that everything is not executing properly
[04:34] <Athenon> Scooma:  what do you mean?
[04:35] <coreyman> Mean_Admin ubuntu doesn't auto mount partitions that aren't the one you installed with, you have to edit fstab
[04:35] <Mean_Admin> actually coreyman proposed using gparted off the livecd, I'm just double-checking I got that right
[04:36] <Mean_Admin> coreyman: yeah you're right, however, it can't even mount it ad-hoc (well actually, it's so much more weird than that, I just can't grasp what's happening)
[04:36] <n8tuserf> Mean_Admin-> what real weird stuff happened?
[04:36] <neil_d> coreyman: yes!  but as this is the second new drive, that its reporting trouble with, and it an old motherboard, and I have been having trouble for the last 6 months,
[04:36] <Scooma> Athenon, apt-get as sudo and everything should execute fine. you shouldn't get permission denied unless the files are owned by someone else and even then as root you have full permissions... hmmm
[04:36] <Scooma> unless....
[04:36] <coreyman> neil_d i would suspect mobo then
[04:36] <Athenon> Scooma:  yeah, thats what confusing me....and on top of everything else, if i dont tell mysql to run as root, but as mysql...it cant bind the socket
[04:37] <Scooma> Athenon, that could be due to a firewall
[04:37] <Athenon> permission error.  yet again.
[04:37] <Mean_Admin> n8tuserf: well, the new ext3 partition appears under [Places] -> [120Gb]  (so usually you'd select, click, 120GB and it would theoretically mount the partition and open it up in nautilus)
[04:37] <Mean_Admin> n8tuserf: but when I select [120GB], it just announces filesystem cannot be worked with
[04:37] <coreyman> Mean_Admin have you tried doing a cmd line approach
[04:37] <rww> In obconf, the configuration program for Openbox, there's a "Dock" tab that doesn't appear to do anything. Does anyone happen to know how to use it?
[04:37] <Scooma> Athenon, can you tell me if your / is mounted rw or ro?
[04:37] <coreyman> Mean_Admin what is the actual name of the drive
[04:38] <Mean_Admin> coreyman: I don't know! :(
[04:38] <badfish69> any ideas why every other file host except rapidshare would lock up firefox in ubuntu but not windows?
[04:38] <Athenon> Scooma:  as far as i know, it should be mounted rw....but how can i verify it for sure?
[04:38] <Mean_Admin> coreyman: don't know how to list mountable partitions
[04:38] <coreyman> Mean_Admin : sudo mount -t /dev/sda3 /mnt
[04:38] <n8tuserf> Mean_Admin-> did you create a filesystem on that partition or you just formatted it as ext3 ?
[04:38] <Scooma> Athenon,  type mount and the first item should say something like: /dev/xxx on / type ext3....
[04:38] <Athenon> /dev/xvda on / type ext3 (rw)
[04:39] <coreyman> Mean_Admin sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sda3 /mnt
[04:39] <coreyman> lol i did syntax wrong
[04:39] <n8tuserf> Athenon-> is that a new naming convention  /dev/xv??
[04:39] <naymyowin> i wanna setup ubuntu LDAP domain controller for windows clients
[04:40] <Athenon> n8tuserf:  that's linode's naming convention
[04:40] <naymyowin> but my server has no internet
[04:41] <coreyman> rww i copied my documents folder to a directory in my ~ .... but none of the pictures copied over and i know there are pictures there in the My Pictures
[04:41] <Scooma> Athenon, http://blog.linode.com/
[04:42] <Scooma> your hosting provider runs an irc channel
[04:42] <Athenon> Scooma:  ive been asking there.  this channel tends to be more helpful, though
[04:42] <ryanprior> If I start up a new Ubuntu Server instance with KVM, how do I ssh into it?
[04:42] <n8tuserf> Athenon-> thats not linux, its a vendor providing isp services?
[04:42] <Scooma> Athenon, one of the techs should be able to do a sanity check though
[04:43] <Mean_Admin> n8tuserf: well, I formatted a portion of the drive as ext3.. do I need to ask gparted to make a partition table or something ?
[04:43] <Mean_Admin> coreyman:
[04:43] <coreyman> rww mabye not... lol
[04:43] <Athenon> Scooma:  i submitted a support ticket at one point...he basically said it's my problem, not his
[04:43] <coreyman> mean_admin sup.
[04:43] <rww> coreyman: again, you got the wrong folder. Vista puts a bunch of (it's equivalent of) symbolic links in a bunch of folders. You probably want c:\Users\Username\Documents
[04:43] <n8tuserf> Mean_Admin-> formatting and creating a filesystem are two different steps
[04:43] <Mean_Admin> coreyman: sorry, heh, so, "/dev/sda3" shoud be replaced by the real name ?
[04:43] <Scooma> Athenon, but he didn't give any pointers?
[04:44] <ZachFlem> is there a package with extra panel applets for intrepid?
[04:44] <rww> coreyman: there's also a Pictures folder in the same place as Documents. They might be there.
[04:44] <Athenon> Scooma:  he said reinstall klogd...which i did....which failed...and then try their irc....which  have.
[04:44] <coreyman> rww i went to c:\users\username\documents
[04:44] <coreyman> Mean_Admin yes, but that's likely the name
[04:45] <bobboti> how does one take a copy-pasted script and make it executable?
[04:45] <coreyman> rww im going to go boot into vista and check see where the files are actually at >.>
[04:45] <coreyman> Mean_Admin brb
[04:45] <rww> coreyman: good plan ;)
[04:45] <rww> bobboti: "chmod +x filename" from the terminal
[04:45] <Mean_Admin> n8tuserf: hum all right, well, under gparted gui, the section I wanna mount is listed a partition with a certain size and as a ext3 filesystem, so it's been both formatted and filesystemed, afaik
[04:45] <bobboti> rww, thanks
[04:46] <rww> ZachFlem: it doesn't look like there's one specific package. If you search for "applet" in synaptic (or "aptitude search ~napplet" in the terminal), you can look through there.
[04:47] <n8tuserf> Mean_Admin-> i dont think gparted creates a filesytem, you have to run mkfs
[04:48] <Mean_Admin> n8tuserf: that's strange since it has a ''reformat as ext3'' option but I'll take a look at mkfs... does that have a gui ?
[04:48] <Huufarted> Anybody know how to download a package from the repositories by name and download to the current directory?
[04:48] <n8tuserf> Mean_Admin-> no gui i know of
[04:48] <n8tuserf> Mean_Admin-> man mkfs
[04:48] <ZachFlem> thanks rww
[04:49] <n8tuserf> Huufarted-> wget
[04:49] <Mean_Admin> n8tuserf: right thanks :)
[04:49] <Huufarted> n8tuserf: I didn't know you could use wget for anything other than a url.
[04:50] <rww> Huufarted: you can use "apt-get --print-uris install PACKAGENAME" to get the URL of the package, then use wget to get it.
[04:50] <Huufarted> rww, awesome, thanks!
[04:50] <co_> jopijoi
[04:50] <co_> ;;;lkpoj
[04:50] <co_> kkkkkkkkkk
[04:50] <naymyowin> hi
[04:50] <rww> co_: Do you have an Ubuntu support question?
[04:51] <naymyowin> help me setting up mail server windows on ubuntu
[04:52] <coreyman> rww ok so the files are actually in username/Pictures ....
[04:53] <n8tuserf> naymyowin-> not a simple trick.. you also have to have a name server
[04:56] <aloha09> hello all
[04:57] <Royall_> Ok, this is weird
[04:58] <Royall_> There is no /home/username/.Trash for me
[04:58] <coreyman> so in windows, i have bunches of different file views for a folder, like icon, thumbnail, list.... with the default kde file viewer, how can i set this option for a particular folder(already asked in kubuntu)
[04:58] <nigtv> hi hi all
[04:58] <Royall_> (I replaced the username with my own username)
[04:58] <coreyman> Royall they changed the directory of trash
[04:58] <coreyman> !trash
[04:59] <nigtv> i have a multi solution problem
[04:59] <Royall_> thanks
[04:59] <coreyman> no problem Royall_
[04:59] <Robert_C> i try loading windows xp on to my computer and it wont let me; the error code says that it can't find my hard drive. how can i fix this?
[04:59] <nigtv> on the site www.kennethkirschner.com, there are 86 images, all that link to a song, which is always "kirschner??????.mp3", with ? being a numeral.
[05:00] <coreyman> Robert_C show it where your hard disk is, this is ubuntu channel i think.
[05:00] <Huufarted> anybody here familiar with the 'cut' command?  I'm trying to specify a delimiter of a single tick (') but it doesn't seem to like it and expects and end tick.  How can I force it to take a single tick mark?
[05:00] <cactusfrog> hey what server adition is better 8.10 or 8.4
[05:00] <Robert_C> coreyman i'm not really ubuntu savy, how would i go about that/
[05:00] <cactusfrog> wait
[05:00] <cactusfrog> the newest one or the second newest one that is waht i mean
[05:00] <nigtv> so, i need a way of getting all of those at once, but thats as far as i can get, ive tried dumping the page source the greping it for wildcard .mp3, amoung other things
[05:01] <cactusfrog> because my freind told me to install the second to newest server adtion
[05:01] <n8tuserf> Robert_C-> you can find it in #windows channel  perhaps?
[05:01] <Vantrax> Robert_C, so you installed ubuntu, and your using Grub and trying to boot windows?
[05:01] <nigtv> what i need is all of the song names in a .txt, one per line, so i can < it to wget
[05:01] <cactusfrog> HEY
[05:01] <Vantrax> n8tuserf, and coryman stop picking on new users
[05:01] <cactusfrog> so
[05:01] <cactusfrog> what is better
[05:01] <Vantrax> be ashamed
[05:01] <Robert_C> vantrax i'm booting from disc to load windows
[05:01] <sophia> Anyone knows what is HUP?
[05:02] <nigtv> !hup
[05:02] <n8tuserf> Vantrax -> you dont know what you're talking about you have not been here long enuff
[05:02] <cactusfrog>  Ubuntu 8.10 server
[05:02] <cactusfrog> or
[05:02] <cactusfrog> Ubuntu 8.04  server
[05:02] <coreyman> cactusfrog, thats very oppinionated, do whichever you want and dont spam the channel
[05:02] <cactusfrog> well i dont know anything about linux
[05:02] <coreyman> 8.1 is the newest, i usually go with it.
[05:02] <cactusfrog> ok
[05:02] <nigtv> ive tried mainly $grep --regexp=".\.mp3" -f kk.txt > kkmp3list.txt
[05:02] <cactusfrog> thanks all i was wondering
[05:02] <coreyman> you dont know anything about linux and you are going to install a server?
[05:02] <cactusfrog> its not like videa
[05:03] <cactusfrog> vista
[05:03] <Vantrax> Robert_C, if it cant find the disk, usually you have a hardware failure, or its not connected properly
[05:03] <cactusfrog> where the newer one is worse
[05:03] <coreyman> you should start out with a gui cactusfrog
[05:03] <cactusfrog> whats GUI
[05:03] <nigtv> and other things like that, but for some reason i cannot get grep to only show the filename link that is in the html, instead of the entire line describing the behavior of the image link
[05:03] <coreyman> cactusfrog graphical user interface
[05:03] <sophia> Hup signal
[05:03] <cactusfrog> ya
[05:03] <cactusfrog> that is what i am going to do
[05:03] <coreyman> cactusfrog ubuntu desktop edition
[05:03] <nigtv> and in w3m, i know i can S^L, but i cannot seem to copy that list
[05:03] <tritium> cactusfrog: graphical user interface.  What he means, in this case, is a graphical desktop.  In other words, don't install the server.  Choose the desktop version.
[05:03] <cactusfrog> oh
[05:03] <cactusfrog> ok
[05:04] <cactusfrog> can i install the other one later
[05:04] <nigtv> i also tried the wget spider function to list all of the links to the songs, but that wont do it either
[05:04] <n8tuserf> sophia -> man signal  for detailed explanations
[05:04] <tritium> cactusfrog: you can
[05:04] <cactusfrog> ty
[05:05] <w4d3> whats the difference
[05:05] <nigtv> what i really need is a way to say "print all of the links that go to another page that are on this page, and put it into txt"
[05:05] <sophia> n8tuserf: thanks
[05:06] <nigtv> i cannot seem to get wget to accept wildcards, so i need to get a txt list of all of the links on that page so i can -i it for wget instead
[05:06] <naymyowin> hey
[05:06] <naymyowin> answer me please
[05:06] <coreyman> naymyowin what is your question
[05:08] <nigtv> is anyone aware of a way to show all links that are on a webpage
[05:08] <coreyman> nigtv no clue
[05:09] <nigtv> you have any other way i could do it?
[05:09] <nigtv> ive been trying this all day and am totally befunked
[05:09] <lacqui> how do i determine what package a file belongs to?
[05:09] <coreyman> you trying to read all possibles from a directory, or just links
[05:10] <nigtv> yea mean ls or something dif
[05:10] <n8tuserf> nigtv -> you tried to ask google for assitance yet? like wget tips and tricks?
[05:10] <nigtv> yea a little, its hard to get anything thats at all related
[05:10] <nigtv> i know there is the wget --spider route
[05:11] <nigtv> but i cannot get that to export to txt either, and when i do it normally it gives me the same thing i get when i dump the page source
[05:11] <sophia> nightv: http://www.usenet-forums.com/php-language/25447-list-all-links-webpage.html
[05:11] <jean-pierre> hi
[05:12] <sophia> nigtv: http://www.usenet-forums.com/php-language/25447-list-all-links-webpage.html
[05:13] <nigtv> sophia: i cannot use php
[05:13] <nigtv> as far as i know
[05:13] <nigtv> im not in x, only the console
[05:14] <bcg24> join
[05:16] <constantine_> hi, can I set ubuntu to always display all hidden files?
[05:16] <bcg24> Yes, though I don't know how
[05:16] <nigtv> constantine_: yes, its under view i believe
[05:17] <constantine_> nigtv , that does it temporarily
[05:17] <Huufarted> anybody that writes shell scripts available for a question or two?  I'm looking to write a bash script that will have to process multiple lines (of an unknown number) and process each line as an argument.  Anybody that could help me out?
[05:17] <nigtv> if you cant find out, i guess you could ls -AR > allfiles.txt
[05:17] <nigtv> might be a little crappy though
[05:17] <ZachFlem> is there a "winrar" style program for ubuntu?
[05:17] <nigtv> ZachFlem: yes, tar
[05:18] <nigtv> there is tar and rar, look for them in synaptic
[05:18] <nigtv> or you can apt-get install tar rar
[05:18] <bcg24> ZachFlem it isn't needed
[05:18] <ZachFlem> nigtv, does that give me the right click and gui stuff?
[05:18] <nigtv> or uhm archive manager, which i think is out of the box, can do that in the gui
[05:18] <ZachFlem> bcg24, if its not needed, why do i need it?
[05:18] <gralco> constantine_, try edit- preferences
[05:19] <bcg24> tar should be installed by default
[05:19] <nigtv> should be under applications>accessories
[05:19] <nigtv> bcg24: yea but its not graphical
[05:19] <waldo_the_lost> hello, i need help fixing my GRUB
[05:19] <ZachFlem> yes, tar is, but i would like the gui part
[05:19] <gralco>  constantine_, somewhere there i believe
[05:19] <nigtv> use archive manager
[05:19] <bcg24> I meant it isn't needed because tar is installed by default...In your case it may be needed
[05:19] <gralco>  constantine_, check show hidden and backup files
[05:19] <ZachFlem> bcg24, does tar compress/decompress other file types?
[05:20] <BornSlippy> yes it doesn :)
[05:20] <BornSlippy> does
[05:20] <nigtv> if you are willing to take a few minutes and learn how to use tar and rar it may be worth it
[05:20] <nigtv> ZachFlem: tar can handle .tar .tar.gz and tar.bz
[05:20] <bcg24> Only tar files that is the standard archive of linux
[05:20] <ZachFlem> nigtv, im happy to do that, but there are other people that are involved, not just me
[05:21] <BornSlippy> hi guys ... I have a problem with APTonCD, anybody here who has a few minutes to help me out? It's not a complicated issue, just newbie uncertainty. :)
[05:21] <nigtv> ah, well then archive manager, which is installed too right out of the box
[05:21] <ZachFlem> ok, well what about when people send me zip and rar files from windows? i'd really like a nice gui app to help out.
[05:21] <nigtv> ^ archive manager
[05:21] <nigtv> applications, accessories
[05:21] <nigtv> should be in there
[05:22] <ZachFlem> i've got a minimal install, any idea what the package is called?
[05:22] <nigtv> i think archive_manager
[05:22] <nigtv> lemme check that
[05:22] <gralco> I don't know where to get an driver for my sound card for sound capture, I have an x-fi card and have the packages alsa-oss and oss-compat
[05:22] <waldo_the_lost> hey i need help fixing my GRUB, can anyone here help?
[05:23] <nigtv> waldo_the_lost: just type your problem out in a single msg
[05:23] <lnb_> after update can't get wireless ip address
[05:23] <lnb_> this is very odd
[05:24] <bcg24> hey how do i direct messages i havent used irc in ages
[05:25] <coreyman> Inb_ there is a command to renew dhcp let me search it
[05:25] <lnb_> dhclient
[05:25] <coreyman> yea
[05:25] <coreyman> that
[05:25] <gte351s> how can I restart my sound driver w/o restarting the computer?
[05:25] <lnb_> it doesnt get anything
[05:25] <lnb_> it did before though
[05:25] <lnb_> without doing #dhclient wlan0
[05:26] <Zak28> lsmod i guess
[05:26] <coreyman> do you have a working computer you can check see if your wireless router is giving out dhcp
[05:26] <BornSlippy> regarding APTonCD: I have a virgin Ubuntu installations that needs absolutely everything I have on this system. I attempted to create a package collection but it appears it's not complete. When I try to upload it to the virgin installation it's asking for all sorts of dependencies. The "Auto-select dependencies" function in AoCD doesn't seem to work. Am I missing something?
[05:26] <WIGGMPk> gte351s: alsa force-reload
[05:26] <lnb_> it is
[05:26] <WIGGMPk> gte351s: if your using alsa that is
[05:26] <lnb_> it gives me static ip
[05:26] <gte351s> WIGGMPk: yup, I am - I'll give it a try. thanks
[05:26] <mikeshollen> Can anyone tell me how to get the spinning cube and flying windows screen savers for compiz on ubuntu hardy?
[05:26] <coreyman> oops closed the window
[05:26] <coreyman> anyway
[05:26] <Zak28> speaking of sound should i use alsa or that new sound server?
[05:26] <waldo_the_lost> ok, well i tried to install ubuntu on an external hard drive, i found out via google that it took my GRUB with it, also while at google i found a guide that said to go sudo su, then type in fdisk -l, then choose the disk you want the grub to be in then type grub-install /dev/sdx. everything went well but when i chose my linux hard drive it said that it does not have a corresponding BIOS drive
[05:26] <coreyman> do you have your set up like this( i had trouble before also )
[05:26] <Zak28> pulseaduio
[05:27] <bcg24> can someone tell me how to direct messages to individuals
[05:27] <coreyman> modem>switch>wireless router
[05:27] <Squideshi> Can someone tell me the difference between "service gdm start" and "startx"?
[05:27] <nigtv> waldo_the_lost: is it partitioned? or just the whole drive for ubuntu
[05:27] <waldo_the_lost> the whole drive is for ubuntu
[05:28] <nigtv> well, then you shouldnt need to do any of that
[05:28] <lnb_> it was getting ip before update. right out of the box
[05:28] <stewart__> i have a process running on my server. Is there any system that will send me an email if this process goes down?
[05:28] <nigtv> the graphical install can do all of that for you
[05:28] <marcustomized> Squideshi - i'd imagine "service gdm start" starts the gdm daemon
[05:29] <WIGGMPk> I am using 8.10, is it possible to use the network-manager GUI to share an internet connection from my laptop to my xbox 360? (wireless ----> wired)
[05:29] <nigtv> stewart__: not sure about that, but you can set it up to log any changes in the process list
[05:29] <constantine_> gralco: edit- preferences is where?
[05:29] <marcustomized> "startx" starts an xsession
[05:29] <waldo_the_lost> would that be in the prefrences menu or the administrations?
[05:29] <nigtv> waldo_the_lost: do you already have it installed?
[05:29] <nigtv> or do you have a live cd or something
[05:29] <therootest> hello. Can someone help me install my modem on Ubuntu 8.10? I have already run scanmodem, but i dont know what to do with the output.
[05:29] <nigtv> !install
[05:29] <gte351s> still on the sound issue - anyone else had rhythmbox choke the sound driver every now and then, forcing restart to hear audio?
[05:30] <Squideshi> marcustomized: What's the gdm daemon?
[05:30] <stewart__> nigtv:  ah ok can you point me in the right direction with some key words for a google search or a bit more detail of what you mean... thanks
[05:30] <constantine_> gralco , I found it n/m
[05:30] <nigtv> ^ those links have specific information on install to external drives
[05:30] <marcustomized> Squideshi - its the background process that controls the 'spawning' of GDM
[05:30] <Psuedo> hi
[05:30] <marcustomized> GDM is your login manager
[05:30] <Psuedo> indeed
[05:31] <nigtv> stewart__: you know, im not sure how. Have you searched for applications that can do that?
[05:31] <Psuedo> In fact, I came here to ask a quesiton about it
[05:31] <Psuedo> How do I turn on auto-login after I have installed Ubuntu?
[05:31] <waldo_the_lost> it was installed but now it isn't, i have a live cd handy if i need it
[05:31] <constantine_> why is it a bad idea to login as root?
[05:31] <BornSlippy> regarding APTonCD: I have a virgin Ubuntu installations that needs absolutely everything I have on this system. I attempted to create a package collection but it appears it's not complete. When I try to upload it to the virgin installation it's asking for all sorts of dependencies. The "Auto-select dependencies" function in AoCD doesn't seem to work. Is it possible to get the whole shebang into one CD, packages, dependencies and all?
[05:31] <nigtv> constantine_: because any process that is running then has root access
[05:32] <therootest> hello. Can someone help me install my modem on Ubuntu 8.10? I have already run scanmodem, but i dont know what to do with the output.
[05:32] <nigtv> waldo_the_lost: did you try the install on there?
[05:32] <nigtv> like boot into the live cd, then choose install, then when it starts up partition, choose your external
[05:32] <Psuedo> 5 Ubuntu CDs arrived in the mail today from ShipIT! (2x Ubuntu, 1x Ubuntu Server, 1x Ubuntu Server x64 and 1x Kubuntu)
[05:32] <constantine_> nigtv: does this perform the function of a firewall or should I use one anyways
[05:33] <stewart__> nigtv: nah not really i dont even know where to start... just asking around because its something i know nothing about
[05:33] <bRUTEfORCE> Psuedo: do u intend to use them all?
[05:33] <Robert_C> how can i get gsudo to work?
[05:33] <Psuedo> yep
[05:33] <Psuedo> How do I turn on auto-login after I have installed Ubuntu?
[05:33] <nigtv> stewart__: well do you know how to set it up so that it boots from the cd?
[05:33] <daftykins> why does anyone use auto-login?
[05:33] <nigtv> like your computer
[05:33] <bRUTEfORCE> Psuedo: goto System>Administration>LoginWindow
[05:33] <waldo_the_lost> i haven't tried that yet, i'll give it a try
[05:33] <nigtv> thats the first step
[05:33] <Psuedo> I need autologin for use as I am making a liveCD
[05:34] <waldo_the_lost> thankyou!
[05:34] <Robert_C> how do i get gsudo gparted to work?
[05:34] <nigtv> stewart__: can you do that?
[05:34] <bRUTEfORCE> Psuedo: then security>Autologin
[05:34] <anahata> hi
[05:34] <daftykins> Robert_C, that's no doubt meant to be "gksudo gparted"
[05:34] <stewart__> nigtv:  boots from the cd? nah all i want to do is send an email to my self if one of my rails servers goes down
[05:35] <nigtv> oh wait sorry i got confused
[05:35] <Psuedo> Thanks, givingi it a go now
[05:35] <anahata> does anyone know if there is a simple way to synch a pda with your ubuntu/linux desktop?
[05:35] <Robert_C> if i forgot my password, how do i reset it?
[05:35] <nigtv> i was thinking the guy who wanted install on his external
[05:35] <linux> irc.eskimo.com
[05:35] <daftykins> you have to boot a livecd Robert_C
[05:35] <therootest> hello. Can someone help me install my modem on Ubuntu 8.10? I have already run scanmodem, but i dont know what to do with the output.
[05:35] <stewart__> nigtv: haha trying to help too many ppl :0
[05:35] <Psuedo> Well I don't need anymore help
[05:35] <Psuedo> Thanks
[05:35] <Psuedo> bye
[05:35] <nigtv> therootest: is it a card
[05:36] <nigtv> and also, is it wireless or wired
[05:36] <therootest> anahata: i think that in the menu system->preferences, there is a PalmOS configuration thing. But i dont know more, i never had a PDA.
[05:36] <nigtv> stewart__: im thinking if you search around with the term 'notify', you should find something
[05:36] <therootest> nigtv, its a PSTN modem on a laptop.
[05:37] <stewart__> nigtv:  cool dude thanks will check it out
[05:37] <nigtv> anahata: it comes installed already, try just plugging it in
[05:37] <nigtv> therootest: so wireless?
[05:37] <Cool_Nick> Does someone know if a qos rule could be created based on # of open conenctions on a specific port?
[05:37] <anahata> therootest: thanks
[05:37] <anahata> nigtv: you mean a synch tool?
[05:37] <therootest> nigtv, wired :)
[05:38] <nigtv> yea, for palms, it installs automatically with ubuntu
[05:38] <anahata> cool, i thought i had to buy an expensive pda to do it with linux
[05:38] <nigtv> therootest: have you tried ifconfig
[05:38] <anahata> b/c i just want a used cheap pda
[05:38] <nigtv> anahata: if you cant get it to show up, you may have to mount it
[05:38] <anahata> the main point for me to use linux is to go cheap
[05:38] <anahata> nigtv:thanks
[05:38] <nigtv> yea, you know how to mount?
[05:38] <therootest> nigtv, actually it is not ethernet. It's just a dial-up modem.
[05:39] <anahata> not yet, i didn't even install ubuntu yet
[05:39] <nigtv> oh wow therootest i really dont know anything on that lol
[05:39] <anahata> therootest: i'm just scoping a few things out before i do this... i just got my new computer so now i can proceed to install when i feel ready
[05:39] <therootest> nigtv, neither do i :)
[05:39] <nigtv> uhm...i think there is a dialer daemon....
[05:39] <anahata> but i had a spare monitor which turns out the refresh rate seems unconfigurable, and my eyes/brain can't tolerate it
[05:40] <constantine_> I need to close some ports up, how can I do this?
[05:40] <anahata> meaning i have 2 pc's and only 1 monitor now, the significance of which is that ... i wanted my old pc up in case i need tech help with my new linux pc
[05:40] <therootest> anahata, just do the installation :) i have one month on ubuntu, and i have absolutely no probs (except for my modem).
[05:40] <anahata> therootest: oh ok .... you solved your modem problem, then?
[05:40] <nigtv> therootest: yes, it is called wvdial, the dialer
[05:41] <nigtv> if you can apt-get install wvdialer, and just see if you have it, if you do then you have to run it
[05:41] <nigtv> its a graphical auto config type thing for dialup modems
[05:41] <therootest> anahata, i'm trying to :)
[05:41] <anahata> therootest: ohhh, then what are you using to get online? another pc?
[05:41] <therootest> nigtv, i just dont have drivers for the modem. So, i cant use wvdial.
[05:42] <nigtv> you cant find them online?
[05:42] <cactusfrog> uh
[05:42] <cactusfrog> really importrain question
[05:42] <nigtv> worst case scen you could use a generic one
[05:42] <therootest> nigtv, no...
[05:42] <cactusfrog> how do i change my harddive from master to slave
[05:42] <cactusfrog> i cant find the diogram on it
[05:42] <cactusfrog> :S
[05:42] <nigtv> cactusfrog: the switches on the back
[05:43] <nigtv> it changes from hd to hd
[05:43] <nigtv> if you look at it in the back, it should have little plastic lookin things connecting small pins
[05:43] <anahata> hehe @ prince_jammys
[05:44] <nigtv> on mine its MASTER: 10001000 and SLAVE 10001110
[05:44] <cactusfrog> well
[05:44] <rexwin> is there a way to install ubuntu pakages without removing packages bacause apt-get offers to remove them automatically which i donot want..
[05:44] <wers> how do I set a swap partition?  a while ago, i deleted my original swap partition. now that i created it again, ubuntu still doesnt recognize it
[05:44] <cactusfrog> go to c
[05:44] <cactusfrog> and there is an unistaller there
[05:44] <anahata> nigtv: what kind of modem are you trying to work with linux?
[05:45] <nigtv> rexwin: why do you want to do that, its alot better than having conflicting packages
[05:45] <nigtv> anahata: not me, therootest, its a dialup
[05:45] <nigtv> he cannot find a driver so he can run wvdial to set it up i believe
[05:45] <nigtv> wers: you have to use fdisk
[05:45] <anahata> nigtv: oh i'm sorry, i'm very sleepy and confused the two
[05:45] <nigtv> be real careful though
[05:45] <xakkkk> hello
[05:45] <penguin-up> linux doesn't like internal dialup modems
[05:45] <nigtv> anahata: ive done that like 10 times already
[05:45] <rexwin> nigtv,it is saying that it going to remove packages that i know i need them..
[05:46] <alanbshepard70> is there a way to enable and disable a screensaver from the command line so I can watch movies on hulu without my display turning off?
[05:46] <nigtv> are you using add remove or synaptic or command line or what
[05:46] <wers> nigtv, fdisk /dev/hda6. is that right?
[05:46] <xakkkk2> adasd
[05:46] <n8tuserf> wers you dont have to use fdisk to create a swap
[05:46] <_Whipper__> alan: do u have a "powersaving" plan on your machine?
[05:46] <nigtv> i dunno, wers, depends on the computer and its info and bios and all of that
[05:47] <anahata> therootest: bummer
[05:47] <wers> n8tuserf, i already have a swap partition. it's /dev/hda6. how do i make ubuntu make use of it
[05:47] <cactusfrog> ok
[05:47] <n8tuserf> wers you swap on
[05:47] <nigtv> wers: how do you know its not using it
[05:47] <anahata> my local lug doesn't meet anymore, according to their site
[05:47] <anahata> at least i have this
[05:47] <cactusfrog> i cant find my drive slave/master switch and there is no diogram
[05:47] <wers> n8tuserf, thanks. working now :D
[05:48] <cactusfrog> what cerial number should i google to get info
[05:48] <Chewie[]> i want to set up a second x server to run on a different tty. what's the best way to do this in 8.10?
[05:48] <cactusfrog> because i cnat find it
[05:48] <whabo> guys any suggestions on how to get ubuntu working on an HP pavilion 6636nr laptop? any1? thanks. I need 8.10
[05:48] <coreyman> how do i give permissions to a program to write
[05:48] <wers> nigtv, verbose mode when i was booting. it's working now. :D
[05:48] <nigtv> cactusfrog: in the back, are there 8 or 9 pins arranged in a rectangle?
[05:48] <coreyman> without sudo
[05:48] <anahata> my one acquaintance online tried to talk me into bsd instead of ubuntu
[05:48] <wers> what happens if i dont use swap? any advantage?
[05:48] <cactusfrog> i know i have sean pictures
[05:48] <cactusfrog> mine doesn't have them
[05:48] <cactusfrog> :S
[05:48] <nigtv> wers: no, you should really use it
[05:49] <wers> nigtv. ok thanks :)
[05:49] <nigtv> cactusfrog: wow...what model
[05:49] <cactusfrog> wiat
[05:49] <cactusfrog> i do i have 4 pins
[05:49] <nigtv> they should all have them
[05:49] <cactusfrog> but nothing on them
[05:49] <nigtv> shucks, you might have to go get some, theyre cheap though...
[05:49] <cactusfrog> are they importain
[05:49] <constantine_> does gzip come automatically with ubunu?
[05:49] <cactusfrog> i have on on my other new hardrive
[05:49] <nigtv> if you have nothing in there it just runs as a master right?
[05:49] <anahata> are you all really happier on linux than on windows?
[05:50] <anahata> is it really better or am i having grass-is-greener syndrome?
[05:50] <cactusfrog> linux always brakes for me
[05:50] <constantine_> anahata: it is better
[05:50] <BornSlippy> it's better
[05:50] <_Whipper__> anahata: i dont no the rest, I am :)
[05:50] <cactusfrog> windows is no difrent
[05:50] <bazhang> anahata, please discuss in #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:50] <cactusfrog> same with macs
[05:50] <n8tuserf> anahata -> you need a hug?
[05:50] <cactusfrog> ok
[05:50] <cactusfrog> so
[05:50] <cactusfrog> i dont have the pin
[05:50] <constantine_> anahata: there's a learning curve but most don't remember that they had one with windows too
[05:50] <cactusfrog> and i am not sure where to put it to set it as master
[05:50] <nigtv> cactusfrog: if you are using two i think you need at least 2 little connecters depending on what you have to connect
[05:51] <anahata> bazhang: ok... i was starting to ramble
[05:51] <cactusfrog> i have to conencters in my computer
[05:51] <nigtv> i think that usually the master is connecting the top and bottom pins on the far left
[05:51] <nigtv> like |:::
[05:51] <cactusfrog> oh mines looks like this ....
[05:51] <nigtv> and slave is flat on the bottom 2 most left pins
[05:51] <constantine_> and the support is waaaay better...look around
[05:51] <constantine_> for free
[05:52] <anahata> (yes, but the local linux geeks don't seem as nice, honestly, for me)
[05:52] <cactusfrog> i only have on row of pins looks like this . . . .
[05:52] <anahata> these ubuntu rooms seem unbelievably helpful though
[05:52] <BornSlippy> how do I make APTonCD bring all the dependencies of all the packages I want copied to a CD?
[05:52] <coreyman> where can i download courier new for free.
[05:52] <anahata> i'll take this to the offtopic room now
[05:52] <constantine_> I am a bit concerned with how often these new versions come out though, and whether I'll have to continually reinstall them
[05:52] <nigtv> cactusfrog: are you sure that isnt the power socket
[05:53] <coreyman> constantine_ you can update, no need to reinstall
[05:53] <cactusfrog> yes
[05:53] <cactusfrog> well
[05:53] <cactusfrog> no
[05:53] <cactusfrog> but i unpluged it from a difrent place
[05:53] <constantine_> anahata: if you get a book and start with the basics, it will make it easier for them to answer you
[05:53] <anahata> a linux book or an ubuntu book?
[05:53] <daftykins> i am actually finding it very frustrating learning stuff on Linux distros, i'm good at command line but those little tricks you learn become useless in subsequent ubuntu versions
[05:53] <nigtv> cactusfrog: well all hd have IDE connect, which is the long row of : with one .
[05:53] <anahata> constantine: i have 3 linux books
[05:53] <jeeves> is there a windows variant of the SSHfs server?
[05:53] <nigtv> and then a power which is like . . . .
[05:53] <daftykins> i'm used to knowing how to do everything i need to with Windows too, so coming to Linux is tough
[05:53] <constantine_> anahata: many are into linux and programming and think logically so they expect you to have googled or tried to look
[05:54] <bazhang> !ot
[05:54] <constantine_> anahata: get the ubuntu pocket guide which is free or paperback or get ubuntu kung fu
[05:54] <bazhang> please take chat to the #ubuntu-offtopic channel thanks
[05:54] <constantine_> it will answer most of your questions for awhile
[05:54] <nigtv> i dunno you should look up your model on google and see if it does have them, should be able to find something that will tell you the way to set it up
[05:54] <ashish> how to write rss
[05:54] <anahata> constantine pm me so we dont get into trouble lol
[05:54] <jeeves> is there a windows variant of the SSHfs server?
[05:54] <nigtv> cactusfrog: sorry i cant be more of a help
[05:55] <nigtv> i have to go
[05:55] <nigtv> good luck all
[05:55] <nigtv> 
[05:55] <BornSlippy> how do I make APTonCD bring all the dependencies of all the packages I want copied to a CD?
[05:55] <constantine_> everything I said I heard here lol
[05:55] <SEVILLA> h
[05:55] <cactusfrog> uhg
[05:55] <coreyman> Red Hat releases free replacements for Windows core fonts...
[05:55] <coreyman> Available for immediate download, the Liberation fonts are intended to let users share documents between free operating systems and Windows without involuntarily reformatting the documents because the fonts don't match. The Liberation fonts are designed to be metrically equivalent to the Windows core fonts, with each letter occupying the same horizontal space as its equivalent in a proprietary font.
[05:55] <coreyman> Red Hat has a long history of interest in high-quality fonts that allow interoperability between operating systems.
[05:55] <FloodBot3> coreyman: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:56] <coreyman> what is the name of the liberation courier new?
[05:56] <_Whipper__> BornSlippy: AptonCd comes with a manual?
[05:56] <cactusfrog> will scanning a hardrive kill it
[05:56] <BornSlippy> Whipper: I read the manual, but it doesn't help. There is a function in the program to do it but it, well, it doesn't.
[05:56] <bazhang> !info ttf-liberation
[05:57] <_Whipper__> Borns:u mean  like a metapackage?
[05:57] <daftykins> whoever's after these fonts, have they considered "msttcorefonts" package?
[05:57] <BornSlippy> Whipper: I made a CD with the dependencies-added thing, but when I try to open it in synaptic package manager - e.g. when I want to install APTonCD from the CD I just made, it asks for a bunch of dependencies
[05:58] <_Whipper__> Born: make an .is, and burn it on cd, that should do the trick..
[05:58] <_Whipper__> .iso i ment
[05:58] <BornSlippy> Whipper: I did all of that. Twice. The packages are correctly on the CDs but the dependencies do not seem to follow with, for some odd reason. I can see all the packages but synaptics can't do anything with them because it can't find the dependencies.
[05:59] <BornSlippy> and synaptics will find the dependencies automatically if they are on the CD, I guess?
[05:59] <cactusfrog> ok
[05:59] <cactusfrog> here is my haddrive specs
[05:59] <cactusfrog> http://flickr.com/photos/35633310@N07/3332698104/sizes/l/
[05:59] <_Whipper__> Borns: sounds like a bug to me..
[05:59] <cactusfrog> scanned my haddrive
[05:59] <cactusfrog> :P
[05:59] <BornSlippy> whipper: will synaptics automatically detect the dependencies if they are on the same CD?
[06:00] <_Whipper__> Borns: it should, but it allways doesnt..
[06:00] <BornSlippy> whipper: so what can I do? find the dependencies manually - if they even are on the CD - and install them?
[06:01] <_Whipper__> Borns: u can allways use comman-line.. :)
[06:01] <_Whipper__> but im of to a coffee and a dag >
[06:01] <_Whipper__> fag
[06:01] <_Whipper__> dmn
[06:02] <BornSlippy> whipper: I grew up on DOS so I can use the command line in principle, but for sure I will need to be lead through it step by step..
[06:03] <Shael> hey, anyone know how to use an http tunneler ? I just downloaded SSH Tunnel manager and dunno what to do next ?
[06:03] <cactusfrog> ok
[06:03] <cactusfrog> i need to turn this haddrive from a master into a slave
[06:03] <cactusfrog> i need help
[06:03] <cactusfrog> these are the computer specs
[06:03] <cactusfrog> http://flickr.com/photos/35633310@N07/3332703922/sizes/o/
[06:04] <cactusfrog> i mena this sry
[06:04] <cactusfrog> http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3603/3332703922_3ffbf1e91c_o.jpg
[06:04] <BornSlippy> cactusfrog: you have to move that little plastic piece that you guys talked about and create a specific pattern ... you need to find the manual of your specific HD and follow the instructions there
[06:04] <Shael> anyone know if there's a list of available proxies somewhere ?
[06:04] <BornSlippy> cactusfrog: it should have diagrams of master/slave etc
[06:04] <Shael> if i want to httptunnel out of university firewalls ?
[06:05] <cactusfrog> yes i know it should
[06:05] <cactusfrog> thats why i came here
[06:05] <cactusfrog> it doens't
[06:05] <cactusfrog> this is the only sticker on the enter thing
[06:05] <cactusfrog> http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3603/3332703922_3ffbf1e91c_o.jpg
[06:05] <BornSlippy> cactusfrog: then I think you're screwed, to be honest. You can try finding a diagram of a similar model maybe? or just guess your way...
[06:05] <cactusfrog> i dont even have a pin or know where to put it...
[06:06] <BornSlippy> cactusfrog: is there no pin in the back of the hard drive, next to where the cables go in?
[06:06] <daftykins> what's his HDD problem?
[06:06] <cactusfrog> uh there is no pin
[06:06] <bRUTEfORCE> cactusfrog: it is a sata drive
[06:06] <daftykins> SATA drives still have jumpers ;)
[06:07] <cactusfrog> whats a jumper?
[06:07] <jigp> hello guys
[06:07] <BornSlippy> the plastic thing we are talking about
[06:07] <bRUTEfORCE> cactusfrog: but i think they need to be put in the correct sata slot in the motherboard
[06:07] <cactusfrog> oh
[06:07] <daftykins> it's a piece of plastic + metal that bridges between pins
[06:07] <daftykins> to set mdoes
[06:07] <cactusfrog> thats the jumper block
[06:07] <daftykins> *modes
[06:07] <jigp> how to detect my usb in virtualbox ose?I installed winxp pro but it won't detect my usb...
[06:07] <albinodingo> Anyone here know how to change the hostkey in VirtualBox? default it sets right-ctrl as the hostkey, but my lappy has no right key :\
[06:07] <BornSlippy> cactusfrog: is it a IDE or SATA drive?
[06:07] <cactusfrog> FUCKING DELL it says factory use only :S wont tell me how to use it!
[06:07] <Scunizi> daftykins: sata drives don't have that type of selection
[06:08] <bRUTEfORCE> BornSlippy: it is a sata
[06:08] <daftykins> Scunizi, yes they do
[06:08] <cactusfrog> look
[06:08] <cactusfrog> at the scan
[06:08] <cactusfrog> http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3603/3332703922_3ffbf1e91c_o.jpg
[06:08] <ZykoticK9> jigp, I don't think the OSE version has USB support does it???
[06:08] <daftykins> usually to set 1.5Gb/sec or 3.0Gb/sec Scunizi
[06:08] <Scunizi> cactusfrog: master/slave for sata can be determined in the bios
[06:08] <BornSlippy> if it's a SATA can't the slave/master be configured via the motherboard cable placement just like with IDE?
[06:08] <bRUTEfORCE> Scunizi: exactly
[06:08] <BornSlippy> ohh in the bios, that's fancy
[06:08] <jigp> ZykoticK9: I guess so because its not here.any ways to enable it?
[06:08] <cactusfrog> Scunizi tell me how
[06:09] <cactusfrog> well
[06:09] <Scunizi> daftykins: daftykins only if you have one of the newer drives.. and none of the sata drives have master/slave selection pins like a pata or ide drive
[06:09] <cactusfrog> there are only two possible configuerations
[06:09] <cactusfrog> so i all just do trial and error
[06:09] <bRUTEfORCE> cactusfrog: no
[06:09] <ZykoticK9> jigp, I think you need the other version of VB the PUEL version http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads has instructions for adding Sun's VB repository
[06:09] <programan> Having problems with ICH9 Realtek HD sound.  It comes out very faint and tinny.
[06:10] <foul_owl> Hello, I am having problems getting direct rendering to work with Nvidia drivers 180, also, drivers 177 gives me the error: "Nvidia kernel module not found." but 180 doesn't give me that error
[06:10] <bRUTEfORCE> cactusfrog: look for the same slot where the hdd is fixed on the motherboard right now. it should be labelled sata 1 or sata 2 something.
[06:12] <hmg> Why is copy-pasting behaving so strange between applications in Ubuntu?
[06:13] <hmg> (some times it works, some times it doesn't)
[06:13] <Scunizi> foul_owl: to install drivers directly from nvidia you have to first uninstall all nvidia reference stuff in synaptic.. then when you do, do the install you have to do it from a tty without the gdm running.. otherwise you'll have errors / problems
[06:14] <harrisony> whats the package that when you say go foobar in a shell it goes, you need the barfoo package
[06:14] <programan> I recomend not using the 180 drivers
[06:14] <foul_owl> scunizi: I have tried installing the nvidia drivers, but it can't load the kernel module with those either. not sure why.
[06:14] <Scunizi> programan: depends on the 180 driver.. 180.29 works great for me
[06:14] <coreyman> how can i chown everything in ~
[06:14] <constantine_> so dir performs like ls, but ls doesn't work in my terminal, is this normal?
[06:14] <foul_owl> and i mnea the drivers directly from nvidia
[06:14] <NDS|Brandon> !find Squashfs
[06:14] <programan> Hmm
[06:14] <Scunizi> foul_owl: install build-essential and headers
[06:15] <coreyman> !chown
[06:15] <foul_owl> already installed
[06:15] <NDS|Brandon> !find filesystem.Squashfs
[06:15] <Scunizi> foul_owl: something is missing that's keeping the install from compiling the kernel mod..
[06:15] <foul_owl> what is really frustrating is that setting LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose does nothing. no extra info from glxinfo regarding why direct rendering doesn't work
[06:15] <foul_owl> it says that the kernel module has compiled successfully though
[06:15] <foul_owl> it just can't load it i guess
[06:16] <Scunizi> foul_owl: and you rebooted or just restarted gdm?
[06:16] <MR_QT> hi all
[06:16] <foul_owl> rebooted
[06:16] <foul_owl> what is funny is that i had direct rendering work with 180 drivers, but only for a few days
[06:16] <Scunizi> foul_owl: weird.. I've done it on 3 different computers
[06:17] <foul_owl> no reason why it failed, and i don't know how to check why it doesn't work now
[06:17] <Scunizi> foul_owl: AH.. did you get a kernel upgrade when it stopped?  if so you have to reinstall them
[06:17] <quibbler> coreyman: man chown
[06:17] <baz_> i manually created another RAID5 volume using some empty space on my 4 disks. Now when I boot up, a wierd new 400gb volume is automatically mounted but it is inaccessible - the volume I was supposed to have made is 200gb. Also there are no new entries in my fstab. Should there be something in my fstab? How do I mount/access my new RAID volume?
[06:17] <foul_owl> possibly, but i have reinstalled the 180 drivers since, and direct rendering still doesn't work
[06:18] <foul_owl> not the drivers directly from nvidia, but the nvidia-glx-180 package
[06:18] <foul_owl> thanks for your help btw
[06:19] <Scunizi> foul_owl: and when you do the install is the gui running?  .. I install the drivers directly from nvidia.. the other package is 180.11 which didn't work very well for me.. also the 180.35 driver has issues.
[06:19] <foul_owl> is there any way to see WHY the kernel module doesn't load?
[06:19] <cactusfrog> ok
[06:19] <cactusfrog> cool
[06:19] <Scunizi> foul_owl: probably but I don't know how.
[06:19] <foul_owl> i am not using the hardware drivers manager, i am using just the command line
[06:19] <cactusfrog> i have gotten a kernal error on windows
[06:19] <cactusfrog> before
[06:20] <cactusfrog> blue screen saying the kernal unexpectly shut down
[06:20] <Elone> do ubuntu have lex/yacc package?
[06:20] <coreyman> is there a tool for me to create a compressed image of my hard disk.
[06:20] <foul_owl> and i was using 180.23 or 26 can't remember
[06:20] <marcustomized> coreyman: partimage
[06:20] <WIGGMPk> How do I share an internet connection between my laptop and xbox 360 (wireless ---> wired) using the 8.10 network-manager??
[06:20] <MR_QT> Qt
[06:21] <respecting> hi please is there any utility to record radio station in linux(i have a lot of utility that did this with windows)?*
[06:21] <coreyman> WIGGMPk i dont think that is with ubuntu.
[06:21] <foul_owl> i have been having this problem since august 2008 (see post in forums, lol)
[06:21] <Scunizi> foul_owl: although you're installing from the command line, is the gui still running?
[06:22] <WIGGMPk> coreyman: what do you mean??
[06:22] <foul_owl> is x still running? yes, but i always reboot
[06:23] <Scunizi> foul_owl: that might be part of the issue.. you go to ctrl+alt+F3 , log in and sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop.. then install.. then reboot
[06:23] <coreyman> so im trying to use partimage, but when i press enter in the first "box" it doesnt do anything
[06:23] <coreyman> nvrmind had to press directional arrow
[06:24] <foul_owl> interesting. are we talking about the free drivers too? I stop gdm when installing the drivers directly from nvidia, because it says i should, but i need to stop gdm when installing the free drivers too?
[06:25] <alap> Hi, I am trying to compile kernel on my laptop but i am getting the error at the time of installing package. The error is E:Couldn't find package linux-kernel-devel. I am following the instructions given at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/kernel/compile. please somebody help me out of this problem.
[06:25] <Scunizi> foul_owl: anything that isn't listed in system>admin>hardware drivers must be installed with gdm stopped
[06:25] <foul_owl> also, i might have tried building and install mesa 7.0.3 a few months ago, will the nvidia-glx-* package overwrite my mesa install? (i tried building mesa to fix my dri problem in the past)
[06:26] <Scunizi> foul_owl: don't know.. I haven't delt with that scenerio at all.
[06:26] <crdlb> foul_owl: why would you build mesa? nvidia does not use mesa
[06:26] <foul_owl> it is listed under hardware drivers, but i don't use the hardware drivers manager, because it is buggy. it says drivers are enabled when they are clearly not
[06:26] <rww> alap: what version of Ubuntu are you using?
[06:26] <ZykoticK9> respecting, if you mean internet-radio streams you could look into streamtuner in repos or at http://www.nongnu.org/streamtuner, which is a gui front end to streamripper a cli app also in repos
[06:26] <coreyman> foul_owl gdm locks up with me using a dual monitor set up and nvidia drivers, kdm is perfect
[06:26] <foul_owl> i built mesa because i was trying to get support for some new cube mapping feature i think?
[06:26] <crdlb> foul_owl: by running the nvidia.com installer, you've crippled hardware drivers
[06:27] <foul_owl> interesting
[06:27] <Scunizi> coreyman: I don't have that issue at all.. in fact watched a movie tonight from laptop on the "big" tv
[06:27] <cholisterix> hi
[06:27] <crdlb> foul_owl: as I said, nvidia does not use mesa
[06:27] <rdw200169> coreyman, really?  hmm.... you're using intrepid?  b/c on hardy i've never had a problem... (i haven't upgraded yet...)
[06:27] <coreyman> using intrepid
[06:27] <cholisterix> can i unistall the winbind service ?
[06:27] <foul_owl> ok, got it, i was just experimenting with mesa
[06:27] <coreyman> my monitor is set to above.
[06:27] <coreyman> if i set it to left, right or below its fine
[06:27] <coreyman> but above, it locks up
[06:28] <foul_owl> i should NEVER install the drivers from nvidia.com?
[06:28] <coreyman> kdm it's fine
[06:28] <Scunizi> foul_owl: I do
[06:28] <crdlb> foul_owl: I don't recommend it, but if you already have ...
[06:28] <foul_owl> see, i can get 180 drivers to work from apt. but no dri.
[06:28] <cholisterix> when i try to disable it it pops out  a message that says "may affect your system behavior in several ways, possibly leading to data loss"
[06:29] <foul_owl> could it be a hardware issue? could somthing be wrong with my video card?
[06:29] <cholisterix> So can i just disable the winbind service ? is it safe ???
[06:29] <coreyman> ok im goin to sleep
[06:29] <Scunizi> foul_owl: I do only because that's the only way for my machine to get acceptable performance. I don't run compiz unless I want to make a win user drool
[06:29] <foul_owl> my video card has run a bit hot in the past, but i can't imagine it screwing up dri
[06:29] <constantine_> is there a way to create shortcut words for the terminal like sag for "sudo apt-get" ?
[06:29] <rww> cholisterix: do you use Samba?
[06:29] <daftykins> anyone know how to disable IPv6?
[06:29] <rdw200169> foul_owl, how did you install the nvidia drivers?
[06:29] <cholisterix> rww: not very often
[06:29] <foul_owl> scunzi: i hear you on that!
[06:29] <quibbler> cholisterix: if you use samba then no
[06:29] <cholisterix> rww : only some times
[06:29] <crdlb> foul_owl: not a chance
[06:30] <foul_owl> rdw200169: apt
[06:30] <cholisterix> quibbler, : can i just disable it and when i want it i can enable it?
[06:30] <foul_owl> crdlb: regarding hardware issue, right?
[06:30] <rww> constantine_: Sure. Add something like this to the end of .bashrc: alias sag='sudo apt-get'
[06:30] <rdw200169> foul_owl, are you sure that your card is supported?  have you installed drivers in the past from any other source?
[06:30] <constantine_> that is sweet rww thanks
[06:30] <crdlb> foul_owl: yes
[06:30] <quibbler> cholisterix: don't knpw never tried it
[06:30] <rww> constantine_: then run "source .bashrc" to apply the new setting, or open a new terminal.
[06:30] <danfg> anyone know how to use gdb? i need to get a backstrace on a program that's giving out a segmentation fault
[06:30] <quibbler> know
[06:30] <foul_owl> i have had direct rendering work. but only for a few days. then it stopped without warning
[06:31] <cholisterix> quibbler, : anyway thanks :-)
[06:31] <crdlb> foul_owl: so you have never used the nvidia installer on this install of ubuntu?
[06:31] <rdw200169> daftykins, dangit, i read how to do that somewhere, its a special line you put in when it loads a module, or something
[06:31] <foul_owl> danfg: there is a great tutorial on gdb
[06:31] <KyleGP> Hi all
[06:31] <rww> cholisterix: winbind is a samba service that does some authentication stuff you may or may not need. If you don't need it, it's safe to disable it. More info: http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/winbind.html
[06:31] <foul_owl> danfg: but the program needs to be compiled with debuging symbols
[06:31] <KyleGP> Im new to ubuntu, been posting on the forums, wondering if anyone can help me out with a few things
[06:31] <cholisterix> rww : o cool Thanks !!!!!!!!!!!! :-)
[06:31] <foul_owl> danfg: shall i find it?
[06:31] <rww> !ask | KyleGP
[06:31] <constantine_> rww: to run that, I just type "run "source .bashrc" in the terminal?
[06:31] <danfg> foul_owl: i'm not sure i want to learn how to use it. do i need these debugging symbols to get a backstrace?
[06:32] <daftykins> ah right rdw200169
[06:32] <rdw200169> daftykins, was that enough information?
[06:32] <danfg> foul_owl: i just need to show it to the author, he asked for it
[06:32] <daftykins> well i didn't even google yet, just felt like asking, but thanks :D
[06:32] <KyleGP> Okay, so Metacity is ubuntus default. Emerald is a window themer, what exactly is GTK?
[06:32] <foul_owl> danfg: let me find this tutorial for you
[06:32] <rww> constantine_: firstly, you edit .bashrc and add the alias command. Then, you type "source .bashrc" in the terminal to apply the new .bashrc stuff.
[06:32] <rdw200169> KyleGP, its one of the window GUI programming libraries
[06:33] <rdw200169> KyleGP, there's also QT, for example
[06:33] <danfg> foul_owl: u sure i need to learn this? i don't feel like it. i just want to get the backstrace on the segmentation fault and get outta there fast
[06:33] <constantine_> rww: thanks, they should have wrote that at the beginning of this book lol
[06:33] <n8tuserf> based on TK
[06:33] <KyleGP> and GTK runs using Compiz?
[06:33] <rdw200169> KyleGP, yes.
[06:33] <crdlb> KyleGP: emerald is a decorator for compiz (a window manager), gtk-window-decorator is the default decorator for compiz (which uses the same theme as the metacity window managger)
[06:33] <KyleGP> Ah I see
[06:33] <foul_owl> danfg, let me see if i can remember
[06:33] <symbology_> I'm putting together a home theater PC and looking to use Ubuntu. I'm planning on getting a wireless keyboard. Will that be an issue during the OS install? Will it recognize a wireless keyboard?
[06:33] <cholisterix> constantine_, : Just be aware than when you assign = you must have no spaces :-)
[06:33] <crdlb> KyleGP: gtk-window-decorator has gtk in its name not because it uses gtk themes, but because it uses the gtk toolkit
[06:34] <KyleGP> Okay, one big thing thats confused me is Ive gotten a tone of emerald and GTK themes and such, but they dont change the top control bar (Were apps, places etc.. are)
[06:34] <alap> rww: I am using 8.10
[06:34] <rdw200169> KyleGP, GTK is usually just a term used to describe an application designed to operate in Gnome (Gnome Tool Kit)
[06:34] <KyleGP> but
[06:34] <crdlb> KyleGP: you want metacity themes
[06:34] <KyleGP> they only change the window theme, not the control bar
[06:34] <constantine_> cholisterix: right, it will see a seperate argument
[06:34] <foul_owl> danfg: gdb PROG_NAME
[06:34] <KyleGP> So I have to get an emerald theme, then a metacity theme for the top panel?
[06:34] <rww> alap: do the "sudo apt-get build-dep linux" line on that page instead of the apt-get install one, then.
[06:34] <rdw200169> KyleGP, that's because the panel is run by 'gnome-panel'
[06:34] <foul_owl> run
[06:34] <foul_owl> backtrace
[06:34] <foul_owl> and I think that's it
[06:34] <crdlb> KyleGP: oh, the panel is just a gtk app, so it's themed like any other application
[06:34] <rdw200169> KyleGP, and neither Compiz nor Emerald take that over
[06:35] <KyleGP> So its seperate to compiz and emerald, 2 seperate things?
[06:35] <rdw200169> KyleGP, sort of, its more an integral part of Gnome
[06:35] <ganymede> rdw200169, GTK is note gnome tool kit, i believe it is GIMP toolkit
[06:35] <cholisterix> constantine_, : yes and that's not what we want sometimes... :-)
[06:35] <foul_owl> crdlb: yes, i have used the nvidia installer, once. but i ran the uninstaller too.
[06:35] <rdw200169> ganymede, close enough.
[06:35] <foul_owl> and i have had it work even after nvidia.com installer
[06:35] <crdlb> foul_owl: hopefully, that didn't break anything :/
[06:35] <crdlb> foul_owl: is the nvidia kernel module loaded?
[06:35] <rdw200169> ganymede, then why does gnome.org host the GTK documentation?
[06:35] <KyleGP> So I have to get a compiz or emerald theme, then a metacity top panel theme as well? (if that made sense lol)
[06:35] <foul_owl> i have had it work for a bit
[06:36] <Philo06>  How can I check if my video driver has been installed? Since Ive instealled KDE4, the screen is flashing off and on every three seconds or so.
[06:36] <foul_owl> 177 = no kernel module loaded. 180, yes kernel module loads
[06:36] <cholisterix> constantine_, : i saw some great video tutorials in youtube about bash shell do you want to share the links ?
[06:36] <cilux> big.net.id
[06:36] <rdw200169> KyleGP, there really aren't any panel themes, there's not a whole lot you can do with it.  if you want a better looking panel
[06:36] <paul68> rdw200169: Hi How are you my friend?
[06:36] <rdw200169> KyleGP, look at either: cairo-dock, avant Window Navigator, or gnome-do (version 0.8)
[06:36] <rdw200169> paul68, what up!
[06:37] <ganymede> rdw200169, gnome provides the language bindings for C++ (gtkmm) so maybe it hosts that documentation
[06:37] <alap> I did it its doing fine but i could not understand why that error occurs because there was same error when i was compiling kernel on my desktop there i am using 8.04
[06:37] <danfg> foul_owl: how do i set parameters for the program i'm debugging?
[06:37] <crdlb> foul_owl: so it's loaded right now and the /var/log/Xorg.0.log doesn't show any nvidia errors?
[06:37] <FrikkinLazer> hello everyone
[06:37] <KyleGP> okay, thanks, but just to clarify, the panel at the top's gfx are seperate to compiz/emerald yeah?
[06:37] <paul68> What is the correct syntax of using expect in the terminal?
[06:37] <FrikkinLazer> I have a problem... can someone help?
[06:37] <foul_owl> danfg: you gotta read the tutorial. I have only used it to figure out where my segfaults happen ;)
[06:37] <rdw200169> ganymede, regardless, can we agree to disagree, that GTK and Gnome are closely related?
[06:37] <amerinese> if i have two ip addresses on a single network card, how can i tell outgoing traffic (firefox and ssh and whatnot) to use a specific one?
[06:37] <ganymede> !ask | FrikkinLazer
[06:37] <danfg> foul_owl: thanks you've been very helpful
[06:37] <foul_owl> crdlb: yes, but no direct rendering.
[06:37] <crdlb> KyleGP: they're just gtk apps like any other on your gnome system
[06:37] <ganymede> rdw200169, yes, i didn't disagree with that
[06:38] <foul_owl> danfg: no prob! gdb is a pretty good tool
[06:38] <rdw200169> amerinese, depends on which one has the default route (network wise)
[06:38] <KyleGP> :S lol
[06:38] <FrikkinLazer> Cool no problem. Just want to be polite you know :)
[06:38] <crdlb> KyleGP: some gtk themes such as murrine special-case the panel so that they can apply a different background to it
[06:38] <rdw200169> amerinese, check the command 'ip route'.  whichever route has the highest priority that includes the word 'default' is going to be the route that all your traffic takes
[06:38] <FrikkinLazer> Question: I get a message telling me I need to update apt-file. 'sudo apt-file update' does not seem to do anything. 'sudo apt-get update' does work, so my internet connection is fine. So... whats cooking?
[06:39] <rdw200169> amerinese, the priorities of the routes goes from top to bottom, so the one on the bottom is the last route attempted... make sens?
[06:39] <paul68> rdw200169: everything is great just trying to tackle some minor problems
[06:39] <crdlb> foul_owl: dpkg -S /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2
[06:39] <rww> alap: you shouldn't have. 8.04/hardy has the linux-kernel-devel package :/
[06:39] <amerinese> rdw200169: hmm yeah ithink so, need to play around a little
[06:39] <constantine_> I want to password protect a folder on my desktop, how do I do this?
[06:39] <constantine_> without changing my permissions for my account
[06:39] <amerinese> rdw200169: incoming traffic isn't affected though right?  i could have a web server replying to both ips unaffected by the routing priority?
[06:39] <rdw200169> amerinese, there are a lot of crazy things you can do with routes (etc..) using iproute2, but for that kind of help, let me first refer you to lartc.org
[06:39] <KyleGP> okay but theres been emerald themes and in the screenshot it shows what the windows will look like and it shows a different top panel. When I install the emerald theme, my windows change but the top panel doesn't. Is this because they simply got a different gtk theme/background for their top panel?
[06:40] <foul_owl> crdlb: brb need to reboot real quick, but will try that command
[06:40] <rdw200169> amerinese, yes, that'
[06:40] <crdlb> KyleGP: yes, they changed their gtk theme too
[06:40] <KyleGP> http://www.compiz-themes.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=70284&file1=70284-1.gif&file2=70284-2.jpg&file3=&name=Dark+Ice+Emerald
[06:40] <KyleGP> like this
[06:40] <rdw200169> amerinese, ***that's correct.
[06:40] <crdlb> KyleGP: notice that the "controls" inside the apps, like scrollbars match it too
[06:41] <KyleGP> yeah
[06:41] <amerinese> rdw200169: ok thanks a bunch, will take a look at lartc.org
[06:41] <rdw200169> amerinese, as long as all your ip addresses and management satisfy basic networking rules, there shouldn't be any problems on the incoming side
[06:41] <paul68> rdw200169: do you know anything about "expect"
[06:41] <KyleGP> So in that picture there, see how his top bar is different? He got a different gtk theme that has nothing to do with the emerald theme, correct?
[06:41] <rdw200169> paul68, what are you referring to?
[06:41] <alap> rww: what you are saying may be write but i faced that problem but from next instruction it worked fine and am using it without any problem.
[06:41] <rdw200169> paul68, ohhh, wait, i know hwat you're talking aobut
[06:41] <anahata> night ubuntu ppl!
[06:41] <rabbit_ubuntu> Hey guys
[06:42] <rabbit_ubuntu> Night
[06:42] <paul68> rdw200169: you are the man :-)
[06:42] <rdw200169> paul68, yeah, that's an app that's supposed to 'automatically answer questions' right?
[06:42] <QuizMasterAsh> FrikkinLazer, You are using Hardy Heron >?
[06:42] <FrikkinLazer> Does anyone have an answer for me?
[06:42] <WIGGMPk> How can I share my wireless internet connection with my xbox 360 via my wired ethernet connection using NetworkManager 0.7.0
[06:42] <paul68> rdw200169: yes my friend
[06:42] <cholisterix> rabbit_ubuntu, : High ubuntu rabbit :-)
[06:42] <rabbit_ubuntu> Aya
[06:42] <crdlb> KyleGP: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Dark+Ice?content=69886
[06:42] <rabbit_ubuntu> I got a lil prob tonight
[06:42] <rabbit_ubuntu> Not a prob...A challenge
[06:42] <rdw200169> paul68, i referenced the man page a few times, but I've never actually used it for anything
[06:42] <paul68> rdw200169: the only thing I don't know is how to launch it from the terminal
[06:42] <rabbit_ubuntu> i installed virtualbox from the debian package...But nothing happened
[06:43] <naymyowin> hello
[06:43] <quibbler> FrikkinLazer: sudo apt-get update ...checks your software sources to see if you have any updates for your installed programs
[06:43] <rabbit_ubuntu> When I opened the application menu...Nothing was there
[06:43] <rdw200169> paul68, if i'm not mistaken, expect is supposed to be used in a bash script
[06:43] <rabbit_ubuntu> but the installation said successful
[06:43] <alap> rww: another thing is i am unable to configure irc on laptop
[06:43] <KyleGP> This is the GTK edition, so Im guessing I take the png images from the tar.gz file and set them as the panel background?
[06:43] <cholisterix> rabbit_ubuntu, : does it runs by the shell ??
[06:43] <naymyowin> can i install mail server on intrepid desktop?
[06:43] <rabbit_ubuntu> I dunno
[06:43] <crdlb> KyleGP: if it doesn't do it automatically, yeah
[06:43] <rdw200169> naymyowin, yes.  run 'tasksel' in the terminal, and select 'mail server'
[06:43] <rabbit_ubuntu> I was expecting to see it in the application menu
[06:43] <rww> !mailserver | naymyowin: yes. Instructions
[06:43] <rabbit_ubuntu> According to scrnshots iv seen
[06:43] <cholisterix> rabbit_ubuntu, : hmm why not reinstall it
[06:44] <rabbit_ubuntu> Its supposed to
[06:44] <QuizMasterAsh> FrikkinLazer, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt-file/+bug/179420
[06:44] <rabbit_ubuntu> I did
[06:44] <KyleGP> well no I mean
[06:44] <KyleGP> if I get the emerald edition
[06:44] <KyleGP> install that
[06:44] <rabbit_ubuntu> This is the second time im using the deb pack
[06:44] <KyleGP> then get the GTK tar.gz, and take the backgrounds out, I can use the emerald theme with the backgrounds i took from the GTK version
[06:44] <crdlb> KyleGP: you probably want both of them
[06:44] <cholisterix> rabbit_ubuntu, : did you tried installed from the repos ?
[06:44] <quibbler> FrikkinLazer: please do not pm me
[06:44] <KyleGP> yeah, so thats the way to do it right
[06:44] <rdw200169> paul68, at least, that's what i would have done with it.
[06:44] <rabbit_ubuntu> ﻿cholisterix:I did, but it gave me an older version
[06:44] <crdlb> KyleGP: gtk is the window contents, emerald is your window borders
[06:45] <rabbit_ubuntu> ﻿cholisterix: Which did show up in the app menu...BUT
[06:45] <naymyowin> which is better exim4 VS postfix?
[06:45] <KyleGP> ah I see
[06:45] <cholisterix> rabbit_ubuntu, : hmmm  in mine it is the latest one
[06:45] <KyleGP> and gtk is also the top panel in ubuntu
[06:45] <KyleGP> correct?
[06:45] <rabbit_ubuntu> ﻿cholisterix: When I tried running xp out of it it said error
[06:45] <rabbit_ubuntu> ﻿cholisterix: something something
[06:45] <cholisterix> rabbit_ubuntu, : do you use Ubuntu 8.10 ???
[06:45] <rabbit_ubuntu> ﻿cholisterix: about the Kernel I beleive
[06:45] <crdlb> KyleGP: because it's just an window without borders :)
[06:45] <crdlb> a window*
[06:45] <foul_owl> dpkg -S /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2 give me :
[06:45] <foul_owl> diversion by nvidia-glx-180 from: /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2
[06:45] <foul_owl> diversion by nvidia-glx-180 to: /usr/lib/nvidia/libGL.so.1.2.xlibmesa
[06:45] <foul_owl> libgl1-mesa-glx: /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2
[06:45] <FloodBot3> foul_owl: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:45] <rabbit_ubuntu> ﻿cholisterix: I dont think its 10
[06:45] <quibbler> FrikkinLazer: please do NOT pm me
[06:45] <paul68> rdw200169: I see I have got this script from a friend (since he starts to work in about 4 hours I'm trying to get it to work with a little help http://paste.ubuntu.com/127073/
[06:46] <rabbit_ubuntu> ﻿cholisterix: I beleive im still on Hardy
[06:46] <foul_owl> it's only three lines!
[06:46] <KyleGP> ah i see
[06:46] <cholisterix> rabbit_ubuntu, : hmmm simply upgrade :-)
[06:46] <paul68> rdw200169: but now I don't know to launch it
[06:46] <KyleGP> now the only thing I dont get is metacity
[06:46] <KyleGP> I thought metacity was the window contents :S
[06:46] <KyleGP> the default one for ubuntu
[06:46] <lnb__> is it normal for desktop to have no default icons on desktop?
[06:46] <cholisterix> rabbit_ubuntu, : and then you will see the latest version in the repos as mine :-)
[06:46] <dronix> no
[06:46] <rdw200169> paul68, did you try: "chmod +x <file>; bash <file>?
[06:47] <crdlb> KyleGP: metacity themes are also for the window border, but only when you're not using emerald
[06:47] <rabbit_ubuntu> ﻿cholisterix: Fair enough
[06:47] <rabbit_ubuntu> ﻿cholisterix:I tried that I think
[06:47] <cholisterix> rabbit_ubuntu, : why stick to an older version anyway ? :-)
[06:47] <_Whipper__> Q: I have tuned up my Ubuntu 8.10 just the way i want it, How do i make it a bootable, nice desktop cd/dvd ?
[06:47] <rabbit_ubuntu> ﻿cholisterix: sudo apt-get upgrade
[06:47] <rdw200169> paul68, you should just run it like a normal bash script, the #/usr/bin/expect takes care of selecting expect as the execution tool
[06:47] <rabbit_ubuntu> ﻿cholisterix: Right?
[06:47] <cholisterix> rabbit_ubuntu, : yes :-)
[06:47] <rabbit_ubuntu> ﻿cholisterix: lol
[06:47] <rabbit_ubuntu> ﻿cholisterix: I did that
[06:47] <rabbit_ubuntu> ﻿cholisterix: 4 times
[06:47] <FloodBot3> rabbit_ubuntu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:47] <rabbit_ubuntu> ﻿cholisterix: it upgraded ffox
[06:47] <rabbit_ubuntu> ﻿cholisterix: lol
[06:47] <rdw200169> paul68, just like #/usr/bin/python picks python as the interpreter for a .py file (etc...)
[06:47] <cholisterix> rabbit_ubuntu, : go to the synaptic
[06:47] <foul_owl> sorry, i can't remember who was helping me, but did you see the result of the command you told me to run?
[06:48] <paul68> rdw200169: the file is executable and I thought I launch it with ./filename.sh
[06:48] <lnb__> isn't there a 'computer' and 'users home' on desktop by default?
[06:48] <crdlb> foul_owl: pastebin the output of glxinfo
[06:48] <cholisterix> rabbit_ubuntu, : and hit the button
[06:48] <paul68> rdw200169: however I get a bunch of errors
[06:48] <foul_owl> crdlb will do!
[06:48] <cholisterix> rabbit_ubuntu, : that says "mark all the upgrades"
[06:48] <QuizMasterAsh> _Whipper__, If you just want to make BackUp.. Try SystemImager
[06:48] <dronix> lnb_: I don't think there are any icons on the desktop by default
[06:48] <rabbit_ubuntu> ﻿cholisterix: Ahh...
[06:48] <crdlb> lnb__: ubuntu turns those off
[06:48] <lnb__> how do you turn them on?
[06:48] <rdw200169> paul68, i dunno :(
[06:48] <rabbit_ubuntu> ﻿cholisterix: Makes sense, I think I will do that now eh? Much thanks. Will be back soon (Y)
[06:48] <cholisterix> rabbit_ubuntu, : or simply start the update manager from the system menu :-)
[06:49] <crdlb> lnb__: gconf-editor /apps/nautilus/desktop
[06:49] <lnb__> ahh ok thanks
[06:49] <Spy1134> apt-get moo
[06:49] <cholisterix> rabbit_ubuntu, : ok no problm Good luck :-)
[06:49] <_Whipper__> Quiz: Nope, I want to make it a "real" bootable dvd with a GRUB etc.. :)
[06:49] <QuizMasterAsh> _Whipper__, For customized Live CD == Remastersys
[06:49] <rww> !moo | Spy1134
[06:49] <davygrvy> are there boot options to set a hint port address of the cd-rom drive?  xubuntu installer can't find the cd-rom at step #3 even though it just loaded from it
[06:49] <rdw200169> paul68, like i said, i never fooled around with expect, at least the file *looks* alright...
[06:49] <cjae> super cow power
[06:49] <paul68> rdw200169: no problem I will ask the person in question also going to ask him if the rar part will work correctly
[06:49] <Spy1134> lol
[06:50] <foul_owl> crdlb: http://rafb.net/p/Tq4RbS43.html
[06:50] <rdw200169> paul68, you could also take a shot at using "bash <file>" instead of ./
[06:50] <rww> !moo-#ubuntu-offtopic | Spy1134
[06:50] <rabbit_ubuntu> ﻿cholisterix: One last thing....How do I remove the package I just installed....Or will that happen auto?
[06:50] <Spy1134> ?
[06:50] <rdw200169> paul68, you could even just run it with expect, i.e.: "expect <file>"
[06:50] <crdlb> foul_owl: hrm, pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log too
[06:50] <daftykins> rdw200169, found it btw, http://www.clububuntu.com/search/?q=ipv6
[06:51] <cholisterix> rabbit_ubuntu, : simply remove it from the synapti)c or type apt-get -p PACKAGENAME ( - p stands for purge
[06:51] <sixnonep> Hi Guys I have some questions re tor, if anyone has time to help please.
[06:51] <Spy1134> Go ahead
[06:51] <rabbit_ubuntu> ﻿cholisterix: And -r (is remove?)
[06:51] <paul68> rdw200169: this is the output when using bash http://paste.ubuntu.com/127079/
[06:51] <crdlb> foul_owl: the server glx version says Mesa, which implies that the nvidia driver has not replaced the files it needs to replace
[06:51] <lnb__> crdlb: what is the logic in turning off the icons for desktop??
[06:51] <rdw200169> daftykins, ah, now i remember!  (to think just a few days ago i was invited to club ubuntu, and read that, and it didn't come together in my head...)
[06:51] <cjae> apt-get = super cow powers = more like super amoeba with alzheimers power
[06:52] <new-tu> yo!  :)
[06:52] <naymyowin> hello
[06:52] <naymyowin> can uhear me?
[06:52] <cholisterix> rabbit_ubuntu, : -r is only remove -p is remove and the deb also :-)
[06:52] <daftykins> hehe
[06:52] <cholisterix> rabbit_ubuntu, : ok :-)?
[06:52] <crdlb> lnb__: because they're all available in other places
[06:52] <rabbit_ubuntu> Ahhh
[06:52] <sixnonep> Ok, I have privoxy and tor, torbutton, hte tor test page says I'm not using tor.....
[06:52] <new-tu> thanks in advance, everyone for your help.  :)
[06:52] <davygrvy> 'ifdown wan' doesn't cause 6tunnel to go down too.  Is this a bug?
[06:52] <naymyowin> i have question
[06:52] <Spy1134> !moo
[06:52] <FrikkinLazer> I asked before, but didn't get a real answer, so here goes again: How do I update apt-file? 'sudo apt-file update' isn't working
[06:52] <paul68> rdw200169: when using expect it seems to work lol
[06:52] <rabbit_ubuntu> ﻿cholisterix: Thanks,
[06:52] <cholisterix> rabbit_ubuntu, : :-)
[06:52] <davygrvy> whoop, n/m.. wrong distro
[06:52] <Scooma> FrikkinLazer, it's sudo apt-get update
[06:52] <foul_owl> crdlb: http://rafb.net/p/T3fRh040.html
[06:52] <daftykins> what do you mean "apt-file" FrikkinLazer ?
[06:52] <naymyowin> if i am to install mail server, do i need LDAP or DNS server to retain users?
[06:53] <Spy1134> !moo#ubuntu-offtopic | daftykins
[06:53] <cholisterix> Spy1134, : !moo --> LOL ++ :-)
[06:53] <crdlb> FrikkinLazer: have you pastebinned the output?
[06:53] <rdw200169> paul68, woot, another disaster averted!
[06:53] <daftykins> Spy1134, wtf?
[06:53] <paul68> now waiting to get home since here at work they closed about every port on the proxy
[06:53] <nihilist> moo: os: Microsoft® Windows Vista™ Business - Service Pack 2, v.113 (6.0.6002) up: 5days 7hrs 55mins 30secs cpu: AMD Turion(tm) 64 X2 Mobile Technology TL-52 at 1600MHz (44% Load) gfx: NVIDIA GeForce Go 7300 128MB res: 1440x900 32bit 59Hz ram: 815/1021.9MB (79.79%) [||||||||--] hdd: C:\ 2.25GB/53.7GB D:\ 8.6GB/53.2GB net: Atheros AR5005G Wireless Network Adapter - 54MB/s 31.71GB In 2.51GB Out
[06:53] <FrikkinLazer> I get a message telling me I need to update 'apt-file'.
[06:53] <Ububegin> for my computer, for the sudo, the pwd is password... but then , what is the password for the su.... how can i find that out... its my PC..and i dont rem setting any password for su
[06:53] <tony403> anyone in here use mint? can i install kde 4 desktop in it without messing something up?
[06:53] <st_thomas> how can I manage the file in ftp server so that the file just can be opened but can't be copied?
[06:53] <naymyowin> hello
[06:53] <naymyowin> hello
[06:53] <Spy1134> Type apt-get moo into console and you'll see
[06:53] <rdw200169> !mint | tony403
[06:53] <cholisterix> nihilist, : you really need a VIRUS .... lol
[06:53] <hsny|eee> Ok new problem - there is no apt-spy and no netselect-apt in ubuntu, whats the best way of doing that via a command line
[06:54] <Spy1134> !puppy
[06:54] <rdw200169> !mintsupport > tony403
[06:54] <lnb__> crdlb: well its still a strange thing to do. yes they are avail under 'Places' but to me, its not going to be obvious to newbies that are used to seeing the icons
[06:54] <cholisterix> !LOL
[06:54] <cholisterix> !lol
[06:54] <new-tu> Firsr Ubuntu install, Pentium 4, vid card is: "intel 82845g graphics controller"  - I cannot change the resolution on screen.  I have downloaded the vidcard drivers from Intel, and extracted them.  How to make the drivers install?
[06:54] <rww> !msgthebot
[06:54] <Ububegin> cholisterix: can u stop flooding the channel...
[06:54] <Spy1134> !moo#ubuntu-offtopic | Spy1134
[06:54] <crdlb> lnb__: well, it's cleaner and it doesn't mix metaphors
[06:54] <FrikkinLazer> So.. updateing apt-get is the same as updateing apt-file?
[06:54] <bazhang> Spy1134, /msg ubottu for fun if you wish
[06:55] <new-tu> or am I asking the right question to solove the problem?  :)
[06:55] <QuizMasterAsh> !cadega
[06:55] <crdlb> FrikkinLazer: no, apt-file is a database of all available files for looking up which package contains a file you need
[06:55] <sebsebseb> !cedega
[06:55] <cholisterix> Ububegin, :  it wasn't me  idid it only twice :-)
[06:55] <Scooma> FrikkinLazer, apt-file is an application to search for files in the Debian repository
[06:55] <paul68> rdw200169: perhaps you can help me with this one to at work port 22 for ssh is open right, however since my provider closes everything down under port 1024 is there a way that I can go out on port 22 and hit the openport I use on my firewall?
[06:55] <programan> Having problems with realtek HD sound being very faint...ICH9 chipset
[06:55] <Ububegin> how do i find the password for my computer's su command.... i know the password for the sudo.... arent they the same....
[06:55] <dronix> what are you doing with the bot?
[06:55] <rdw200169> paul68, yes,
[06:55] <naymyowin> hi
[06:55] <cholisterix> Ububegin, : sometimes can be the same
[06:55] <foul_owl> ububegin: there is no superuser in ubuntu, it is disabled i believe
[06:55] <Ububegin> !su
[06:55] <Scooma> FrikkinLazer, do a      sudo apt-get update  &&  sudo apt-file update
[06:55] <naymyowin> whenever i clicked on nbeebo, pidgin freeze
[06:55] <bRUTEfORCE> Ububegin: u have to set it manually for the first time.
[06:56] <new-tu> (patiently waits...)
[06:56] <rww> Ububegin: the root account is disabled on Ubuntu by default, so su doesn't work. Try sudo -i.
[06:56] <rdw200169> paul68, check /etc/ssh/sshd_config (its at the very top)
[06:56] <rww> !noroot | bRUTEfORCE
[06:56] <cholisterix> Ububegin, : in a typical Ubuntu desktop there is no pass for root ?
[06:56] <FrikkinLazer> Scooma: sudo apt-get update works fine
[06:56] <Ububegin> bRUTEfORCE: how do i set it, dude..
[06:56] <naymyowin> can't i doubleclick on chat user?
[06:56] <cholisterix> Ububegin, : try john the ripper :)
[06:56] <rdw200169> !sudo > cholisterix
[06:56] <nbeebo> naymyowin, lol
[06:56] <FrikkinLazer> Scoome: sudo apt-file update does nothing... it just sits there
[06:56] <bRUTEfORCE> Ububegin: i wont. i just got a warning.
[06:56] <KyleGP> So whats the difference between Metacity and GTK? GTK is just for use in emerald and Metacity is normal without any fancy compiz stuff?
[06:56] <pundiramit> did any one here know the IRC channel and Server for "pango" project? Does it even exist?
[06:56] <bRUTEfORCE> Ububegin: use sudo -i
[06:56] <daftykins> metacity is the renderer
[06:56] <hsny|eee> KyleGP: metacity is the window manager
[06:56] <crdlb> foul_owl: ok, this is a bit magic, but it may work: sudo apt-get --purge remove nvidia-glx-180; sudo apt-get --reinstall install libgl1-mesa-glx; sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-180
[06:56] <Spy1134> ﻿!moo-#ubuntu-offtopic | daftykins
[06:56] <naymyowin> nbeebo: hey
[06:57] <cholisterix> Ububegin, : It will brake it :-)
[06:57] <naymyowin> i m not kidding
[06:57] <naymyowin> a2: can u hear me?
[06:57] <new-tu> busy channel
[06:57] <daftykins> ok Spy1134  seriously what the hell is your problem?
[06:57] <Scooma> FrikkinLazer,  and do a    sudo apt-get upgrade
[06:57] <crdlb> pundiramit: irc.gnome.org #gtk+
[06:57] <cholisterix> ubuttu : hmmmm ok LOL
[06:57] <naymyowin> hey alll,
[06:57] <naymyowin> what r  u up to??
[06:57] <Ububegin> thanks folks... sudo -i seems to be working... is there a difference between ubuntu server and desktop.. cos in the server, su works
[06:57] <cholisterix> naymyowin, : hi
[06:57] <rww> !ot | naymyowin
[06:57] <Scooma> new-tu, hey
[06:57] <rdw200169> KyleGP, ok, let me break this down for you.  GTK is what the programmer used to program the contents of the window(s) he creates.  He doesn't care about the border of the windows, he only specifies the contents.  Gnome, on the other hand, offsets windows border management to metacity (usually).
[06:58] <naymyowin> let's chat privately
[06:58] <daftykins> who the hell was that and why did they keep involving me in their damn bot using attempts =|
[06:58] <hsny|eee> Ububegin: not really, su shouldnt work in ubuntu server
[06:58] <cholisterix> !ot
[06:58] <pundiramit> thanks crdlb
[06:58] <Scooma> new-tu, so you got the setup from intel?
[06:58] <new-tu> yup
[06:58] <new-tu> got correct drivers
[06:58] <naymyowin> i dont know who is bot and who is not
[06:58] <Scooma> new-tu, what did you get? gimme the file name
[06:58] <hsny|eee> Ububegin: well ubuntu desktop is in one way ubuntu-server plus a graphic interface, well not really but it is
[06:58] <foul_owl> crdlb: thanks! I will give that a try, will be back to report on success or failure
[06:58] <new-tu> extracted... then siad "wtf now?"
[06:58] <cholisterix> sorry can anyone show me what to type to post something in the room like !DNS etc ...???
[06:58] <Ububegin> hsny|eee: but its working.. in the server edition installed at my place...
[06:58] <crdlb> foul_owl: you shouldn't even need to restart X when it's done
[06:58] <Scooma> new-tu, make sure you use my name in the reply because it's hard to find your replies
[06:58] <rdw200169> KyleGP, for example, GTK is (one of) the ways the programmer specifies drop boxes, text boxes, menus, etc...
[06:58] <Ububegin> hsny|eee: the su command , i mean
[06:58] <naymyowin> can i  setup ubuntu mail server without installing LDAP and DNS ?
[06:59] <KyleGP> Or you can use Compiz as the window manager, giving it cool effects and such?
[06:59] <new-tu> sure... brb
[06:59] <hsny|eee> Ububegin: su should work but you dont have a password for it
[06:59] <rdw200169> KyleGP, yes, gtk-window-decorator
[06:59] <FrikkinLazer> Scooma: its updating now. Why doesnt sudo apt-get update not do a upgrade as well?
[06:59] <new-tu> scooma: sure... brb  :)
[06:59] <cholisterix> how do i make that !ubuttu thing work ???
[06:59] <rww> cholisterix: do you mean that you'd like a list of bot commands?
[06:59] <paul68> rdw200169: I know you can adapt the ports thats not my problem, at work we are behind a proxy server and my boss closed every port but leaves ssh port 22 open so I can go out through ssh however I am not able to connect to my server since my provider closed everything down under port 22. so I have to find a way that I can go out under port 22 and enter on port 50022 for example
[06:59] <rdw200169> KyleGP, most people like Emerald Though, because they can do more with it.  it takes up more computer processing though
[06:59] <cholisterix> rww : yes yes
[07:00] <rww> !list | cholisterix
[07:00] <Scooma> FrikkinLazer,  cos you're just updating the list of what's available so apt-get and synaptic can figure out if anything is new
[07:00] <hsny|eee> FrikkinLazer: update is more, check for new pacakges, but i like to check for new packages but not always upgrade them
[07:00] <KyleGP> What things can you do with emerald that you cant with GTK for example?
[07:00] <lnb__> man you had to change .thunderbird to .mozilla-thunderbird   argh!
[07:00] <Scooma> new-tu,  ok
[07:00] <LinMint-Cholo_> !seen lancelot_rw
[07:00] <KyleGP> Like transparency?
[07:00] <rww> cholisterix: the first link has a searchable index.
[07:00] <bazhang> !msgthebot > cholisterix
[07:00] <rdw200169> paul68, so you want a back door into your office computer?  via ssh?
[07:00] <cholisterix> !list | rww thanks
[07:00] <rdw200169> paul68, without you having to be there?
[07:01] <new-tu> scooma:  Here ya go...  i915Graphics.tar.gz
[07:01] <FrikkinLazer> Scooma: why does sudo apt-get upgrade upgrade firefox?
[07:01] <paul68> rdw200169: I am at the office but want to reach my server at home without asking my boss to open port 500022
[07:01] <hsny|eee> FrikkinLazer: because there is a new version there
[07:01] <cholisterix> rww, : Thanks know i will use /msg first :-)
[07:01] <Scooma> new-tu, k - gimme sec
[07:01] <hsny|eee> paul68: reverse ssh tunnel maybe
[07:01] <rabbit_ubuntu> cholisterix: Back
[07:01] <rabbit_ubuntu> Did the upgrade
[07:01] <new-tu> scooma: cooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool.  :)
[07:02] <JordiRT> hi, I recovered from erased partition using testdisk, I used to have two partitions windows and ubuntu, now grub only shows ubuntu,  I'm stuck trying to edit fstab and grub so they include my windows partition in the options
[07:02] <rdw200169> paul68, is that the port your ssh server at home runs on?
[07:02] <FrikkinLazer> scooma: so duso apt-get upgrade doesnt upgrade apt-get, it pretty much upgrades all the packages... kk
[07:02] <rabbit_ubuntu> cholisterix: At least attempted to....All 3 ways. Synaptic, Terminal AND Upgrade Manager
[07:02] <paul68> rdw200169: nope just an example
[07:02] <cholisterix> rabbit_ubuntu, : so do you have know the latest one?
[07:02] <rabbit_ubuntu> cholisterix: No changes
[07:02] <rdw200169> JordiRT, congrats on the recovery!
[07:02] <rabbit_ubuntu> cholisterix: But when I go to system Monitor....It says Ubuntu Release 8.04 Hardy
[07:03] <cholisterix> rabbit_ubuntu, : one minute sorry  , i have no lighter for my chigarette BRB
[07:03] <Scooma> new-tu, okay so  you need to unzip it and then untar it. can you open a terminal window?
[07:03] <fool_> does anyone know what the default master password for seamonkey after a reset is ?
[07:03] <FrikkinLazer> scooma: ok, the upgrade is finished, but sudo apt-file update still just sits there
[07:03] <rabbit_ubuntu> lol
[07:03] <rdw200169> paul68, i'm just having a hard time figuring out where exactly the bottleneck is; you mentioned that your boss opened 22 outgoing from the office so you could ssh... why change to a higher port if 22 is open for you?
[07:03] <new-tu> it's extracted
[07:03] <rabbit_ubuntu> cholisterix: np
[07:03] <new-tu> whoops... scooma - got 'em extracted in a folder
[07:03] <Scooma> FrikkinLazer, until you become more experienced, it's best to just upgrade everything when you're told... later on you might need to hold back certain updates
[07:03] <new-tu> scooma: terminal window coming up
[07:03] <paul68> rdw200169: since my provider closes everything down under port 1024
[07:04] <foul_owl> crdlb: didn't work
[07:04] <new-tu> scooma - got terminal window
[07:04] <rdw200169> paul68, ohhhh, got it.
[07:04] <Scooma> FrikkinLazer, do you use apt-file a lot?
[07:04] <hsny|eee> paul68: whos your proivder
[07:04] <JordiRT> so is there any way to automatically set grub to find this new partition?
[07:04] <izmaelis> how to create torrent files in CLI?
[07:04] <Scooma> new-tu, okay change into the dir with the downloaded file
[07:04] <paul68> hsny|eee: in Belgium where I am located Telenet
[07:04] <foul_owl> crdlb: perhaps setting LIBGL_DEBUG to verbose could help? I have never gotten that to work though
[07:04] <lnb__> i must say that ubuntu is really good for windows >> linux distro
[07:05] <FrikkinLazer> scooma: no. Not even sure what it is. I got a popup message telling me I should update it. When I click 'yes', it opens a terminal, and I have to enter password. Then it just sits there. So now I am trying to do it manually.
[07:05] <crdlb> foul_owl: since nvidia doesn't use mesa, you don't get anything with that
[07:05] <crdlb> ie, they have their own libgl
[07:05] <hsny|eee> paul68: i would personally get them to turn that off for your account, for example i have the option of having dangerous ports blocked before they get near me but i got that turned off
[07:05] <rdw200169> paul68, well, considering your situation, you would need a ssh-type proxy.  i.e. something that translates 'outgoing ssh 22 -> mangle-mangle -> ssh 1025
[07:05] <new-tu> scooma:  forgot unix command for that (me got dos-brain!)
[07:05] <LinMint-Cholo_> !mint
[07:05] <foul_owl> crdlb: ahh, i see
[07:06] <new-tu> scooma change dir
[07:06] <rdw200169> paul68, which would require a middle-man computer that can receive traffic on port 22 and send traffic on 1025
[07:06] <Scooma> FrikkinLazer, okay so you don't need it. it's just to report on file versions of packages. don't worry - you don't need it. close that terminal window that it opened and then go into (from the top menu bar) System -> Administration -> synaptic package manager
[07:06] <Scooma> new-tu, cd
[07:06] <crdlb> foul_owl: does glxinfo have NVIDIA for the vendors now?
[07:06] <cholisterix> rabbit_ubuntu, : ok i am back
[07:06] <LinMint-Cholo_> !mintsupport
[07:06] <FrikkinLazer> scooma: ok its open
[07:06] <new-tu> scooma: stand by
[07:06] <rabbit_ubuntu> cholisterix: Yessir
[07:06] <cholisterix> rabbit_ubuntu, : i found you solution the PROPER one :-)
[07:06] <cholisterix> rabbit_ubuntu, : so
[07:06] <rdw200169> paul68, personally, i would do that with a iptables mangle rule, but thats just me, i'm sure there are other ways to do i haven't thought of yet
[07:07] <Scooma> FrikkinLazer, okay then do a search for apt-file
[07:07] <rabbit_ubuntu> cholisterix: lol,bring it here
[07:07] <cholisterix> rabbit_ubuntu, : go to http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading
[07:07] <foul_owl> crdlb: no, nvidia is not mentioned
[07:07] <paul68> rdw200169: thats what I was figuring out to but you have to find someone to do so
[07:07] <cholisterix> rabbit_ubuntu, : and also see a look at   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/UpgradeFromOldVersion
[07:07] <Scooma> new-tu, remember slashes are right-leaning
[07:07] <FrikkinLazer> scooma: done, I can see it. v2.1.4
[07:07] <foul_owl> crdlb: perhaps mesa glx is being used, when nvidia glx should be?
[07:07] <rabbit_ubuntu> cholisterix:Alright, will do. Be back in a bit with good news eh?
[07:07] <cholisterix> rabbit_ubuntu, : that's it now you are ok :-)
[07:07] <Scooma> FrikkinLazer, so when you click on it, you should get a description below
[07:08] <crdlb> foul_owl: yes
[07:08] <paul68> rdw200169: altering the iptables at work isn't an option either lol my boss would kill me lol
[07:08] <Scooma> FrikkinLazer, does it sound like something you need? I don't think so ;)
[07:08] <cholisterix> rabbit_ubuntu, : ok:-)
[07:08] <rdw200169> paul68, i would do it, but i don't think you would like it, i run wireless on a garbage internet connection
[07:08] <constantine_> I created an encryption key but I can't apply a password protection to thunderbird
[07:08] <FrikkinLazer> scooma: I agree. However, when an OS pops up a message telling that I should upgrade somehting, I pretty much try to do that.
[07:08] <foul_owl> crdlb: well now things are making sense. hmmm, how to fix this?
[07:08] <rdw200169> paul68, what, switching the port 22 opening he gave you to something else?
[07:08] <Scooma> FrikkinLazer, anyway, right-click on the name "apt-file" in the top section and say "mark for removal"
[07:08] <crdlb> foul_owl: that was supposed to work :/
[07:09] <crdlb> foul_owl: does it sill say Brian Paul?
[07:09] <paul68> rdw200169: sorry don't follow
[07:09] <foul_owl> yes, it does
[07:09] <Scooma> FrikkinLazer,  you're starting out well on the ubuntu road :)
[07:09] <rdw200169> paul68, you could explain to him that you could do more work at home (free work!)
[07:09] <foul_owl> crdlb: i built and installed mesa from source a long time ago
[07:09] <new-tu> Scooma: got it - now in folder/directory contaiining the drivers
[07:09] <new-tu> scooma: in terminal
[07:09] <foul_owl> for some stupid reason :(
[07:09] <paul68> rdw200169: well since I have to take calls it is no option lol
[07:09] <foul_owl> but i have had direct rendering work since then!
[07:09] <crdlb> foul_owl: yeahh, but this should have taken care of it; maybe you do need to restart X for some silly reason
[07:09] <Scooma> new-tu, type gunzip thefilenamehere.tar.gz
[07:10] <FrikkinLazer> scooma: thanks. I need to start developing in linux. So im just messing around a bit getting to know the architecture.
[07:10] <rdw200169> foul_owl, you could just take a shot with the envy installer
[07:10] <crdlb> foul_owl: I guess the libgl _is_ used in the server too
[07:10] <foul_owl> i didn't reboot, but i sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart ed
[07:10] <hsny|eee> hmm, got command-not-found going, im in the admin group although i still get told the 'Ask your administrator to install one of them
[07:10] <secret901> I'm using GNOME, after I tinkered around with the menu panel, my Application menu is now unopenable.
[07:10] <foul_owl> restarting gdm should be enough, right?
[07:10] <rdw200169> foul_owl, because it sounds like you modules or something are mis-symlinked or something
[07:10] <Scooma> FrikkinLazer, another way to easily update your packages is through the Add/Remove choiceunder "applications"   but you have to close the Synaptic package manager first
[07:10] <crdlb> foul_owl: yes
[07:10] <Scooma> FrikkinLazer, there's lots of games
[07:11] <cholisterix> e guys what does the numbers in /etc/rc0.d  really mean ????
[07:11] <secret901> How do I open the Applications menu in GNOME now that it's reduced to one pixel?
[07:11] <FrikkinLazer> scooma: not interested in games right now :) Tell me, is KDevelop worth figuring out? Is it a good environment?
[07:11] <rdw200169> cholisterix, each number correlates to a runlevel
[07:11] <daftykins> it's the system runlevel cholisterix
[07:11] <rdw200169> daftykins, yes, i win!
[07:11] <daftykins> ^_^
[07:11] <crdlb> foul_owl: hrm hrm hrm, how about: LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2 glxinfo  ?
[07:11] <Scooma> FrikkinLazer, Kdevelop is, it's been around for quite a while... ultimately it depends on what you're using
[07:11] <daftykins> i'm tired, it's 7am where i am rdw200169  :P
[07:12] <daftykins> not slept yet
[07:12] <rdw200169> daftykins, yeah, it's 2am here, i need to go to bed
[07:12] <Scooma> FrikkinLazer, for instance monodevelop if you're a C# or VB/net person
[07:12] <c0rrupt0r> I am using kubuntu 8.10 and was wondering how would i change from military time to standard time on the panel?
[07:12] <Scooma> new-tu, done that yet?
[07:12] <cholisterix> rdw200169, : hmmm so those files start before login at the level of their name alright ???????/
[07:12] <secret901> I can't edit the menu in the top panel in GNOME.
[07:12] <daftykins> lol military time, not heard that one before. it's called 24hr vs. 12hr
[07:12] <new-tu> scooma:  cool - it lost it's .gz  extension  :)
[07:12] <foul_owl> crdlb: error, /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2 can't be preloaded
[07:12] <rdw200169> !runlevels > cholisterix
[07:12] <FrikkinLazer> scooma: Im not a c# person, but I know it VERY VERY well... itnt monodevlop sort of looked down on however?
[07:12] <paul68> rdw200169: do you know anything about nfs under hardy its giving me errors
[07:12] <new-tu> scooma: still got .tar  :)
[07:13] <Scooma> new-tu, now you need to run   tar -xvf  thefilename.tar
[07:13] <rdw200169> cholisterix, there is a README in /etc/init.d/ that explains how the numbering system works inside those directories
[07:13] <new-tu> scoooma: coooooooooooooooool... brb
[07:13] <Scooma> new-tu, sorry   tar xvf filename.tar
[07:13] <crdlb> foul_owl: does that file exist?
[07:13] <rdw200169> paul68, reluctantly, no.  i've never fooled with NFS.
[07:13] <rabbit_ubuntu> YAY!
[07:13] <secret901> How do I fix the "Applications" menu now that I can't open it?
[07:13] <paul68> rdw200169: ok no problem get some rest my friend and thanks for your support
[07:13] <cholisterix> rdw200169,  : hmm ok i will read it THANKS
[07:13] <Scooma> new-tu, ah no, sorry brainfart. the first one
[07:13] <rabbit_ubuntu> cholisterix: you sir, are indeed the ONE
[07:13] <linuxgeek87> Hello everyone i need a site for amerias army download please
[07:14] <FrikkinLazer> scooma: anyway, thanks for the help
[07:14] <FrikkinLazer> scooma: cheers
[07:14] <c0rrupt0r> daftykins: if your so smart then how would it be changed?
[07:14] <rabbit_ubuntu> cholisterix: Or mam.... (-__ -")
[07:14] <Scooma> FrikkinLazer, cheers
[07:14] <cholisterix> rabbit_ubuntu, : is it ok now ?
[07:14] <rabbit_ubuntu> cholisterix: Thank YOU! (Y)
[07:14] <rabbit_ubuntu> Its started the d/l
[07:14] <new-tu> scooma: now we have a dripkg folder
[07:14] <rdw200169> paul68, have a good night, my friend
[07:14] <foul_owl> ok heeeeere we go. libGL.so.1.2 doesn't exist. libGL.so.1 does. I preloaded that, vendor changes to NVIDIA
[07:14] <cholisterix> rabbit_ubuntu, : no problem that's the point HELPING each other  ;)
[07:14] <rabbit_ubuntu> cholisterix: So indeed, it is ok now.
[07:15] <rabbit_ubuntu> cholisterix: When its doen i'll tackle the vbox
[07:15] <paul68> rdw200169: not me you lol I am at work and sleeping at work is not good and you stated earlier its 2 am on your side
[07:15] <crdlb> foul_owl: alright: ldd /usr/bin/glxinfo | grep GL
[07:15] <crdlb> with no preloading
[07:15] <cholisterix> rabbit_ubuntu, : Cool , good luck
[07:15] <paul68> rdw200169: its 8u15 am here
[07:15] <Scooma> new-tu, hop into that dir
[07:15] <cholisterix> rabbit_ubuntu, : I 'll have to go to sleep bye
[07:15] <new-tu> scooma: got it
[07:15] <cholisterix> bye guys ;)
[07:15] <rabbit_ubuntu> cholisterix: arighty
[07:16] <rabbit_ubuntu> cholisterix:Thanks again
[07:16] <daftykins> c0rrupt0r, very funny approach to asking for help
[07:16] <new-tu> scoooma: looking at filenames such as agpgart, cvs, etc
[07:16] <Scooma> new-tu, when you do an ls -la
[07:16] <foul_owl> 	libGL.so.1 => /usr/local/lib/libGL.so.1 (0xb7c91000)
[07:16] <rdw200169> paul68, ah, you're in europe somewhere, i'm in NYC, so, good morning!  (now i'm really going to bed!)
[07:17] <crdlb> foul_owl: and there's your old mesa install :)
[07:17] <foul_owl> aha!
[07:17] <Scooma> new-tu, there should be one executable   rwx-r-r sorta.
[07:17] <secret901> I can't open the Applications menu.  Anyone know how I can get it back?
[07:17] <c0rrupt0r> some ppl dont know how to raise their children i guess
[07:17] <foul_owl> damn, i really fucked things up by doing that
[07:17] <rww> !ohmy > foul_owl
[07:17] <constantine_> I understand how to encrypt files, but how do you password protect programs?
[07:17] <crdlb> foul_owl: no, you messed things up :)
[07:17] <foul_owl> ahh, sorry about profanity
[07:17] <new-tu> scooma: duhhh... "hop into that folder" in farking TERMINAL...  I misunderstood
[07:17] <foul_owl> my bad
[07:17] <new-tu> scooma: just a minute...
[07:17] <Scooma> new-tu, yeah cd into it
[07:17] <DigitalKiwi> !ohmy
[07:18] <Scooma> new-tu  you can use your tab key to speed it up
[07:18] <crdlb> foul_owl: remove that file and  run sudo ldconfig
[07:18] <Scooma> new-tu, like  press  cd d<TAB>
[07:18] <crdlb> foul_owl: and anything similarly named in /usr/local/lib for that matter
[07:18] <Scooma> new-tu, you were taking so long i downloaded the package too... okay when you get into that dir, you need to run    ./install.sh
[07:19] <new-tu> scooma: now in the correct dripkg folder in termnal  :)
[07:19] <new-tu> scooma: now I hve to scroll up to find wtf you said next...
[07:19] <new-tu> scooma:  (new-tu red face)  ;)
[07:19] <foul_owl> crdlb: wow, you are a genius. It works perfectly now. Holy cow!
[07:20] <foul_owl> no need to restart anything, direct rendering simply works now
[07:20] <new-tu> scooma: .install.sh - now doing so
[07:20] <secret901> the Applications menu in Ubuntu just disappeared...anyone know I can get it back?
[07:20] <Scooma> new-tu, ./install.sh
[07:20] <naymyowin> hi
[07:20] <Scooma> secret901, right-click on the panel and say "add"
[07:21] <new-tu> "you must be root to install the dri drivers"
[07:21] <secret901> Scoma: the menu item is there, but when I click on it, I see only one pixel
[07:21] <new-tu> scomma: me needs to be root
[07:21] <Scooma> secret901, it's near the middle, the "main" menu item
[07:22] <Scooma> new-tu, then    sudo ./install.sh
[07:22] <secret901> Scooma: it's already in the panel, but I can't open it
[07:22] <new-tu> scoona
[07:22] <Scooma> secret901, hehehe okay hold on
[07:22] <new-tu> scooma:  sudo ./install.sh - coming up
[07:22] <Scooma> new-tu, you can type sco<Press TAB> to get my name easier
[07:22] <foul_owl> crdlb, thank you so much for the help. I'm out, but will try and repay the help by continuing to spread Ubuntu
[07:22] <gerryxiao> hello
[07:22] <secret901> Scooma: I see the Applications, Places, and System menus.  I can open Places and System, but Applications does nothing.
[07:23] <gerryxiao> how to disable moudles autoload when startup
[07:23] <crdlb> foul_owl: you're welcome :)
[07:23] <Scooma> secret901, right-click on applic and say "edit menu"
[07:23] <new-tu> scooma: dri driver installation script just said hello - :)
[07:23] <gerryxiao> modules
[07:23] <secret901> Scooma: I tried that, nothing happened.
[07:24] <new-tu> Scooma: ah... looks self-explanatory  :)
[07:24] <secret901> Scooma: I was editing the menu when this happened.
[07:24] <Scooma> secret901, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-panel/+bug/12125
[07:24] <Scooma> secret901, see if that key combo helps?
[07:25] <Scooma> new-tu, before you reboot
[07:25] <new-tu> scooma: little stinker complaining that the dri drivers cannot be installed without the latest kernel modes.
[07:25] <secret901> Scooma: my icons are normal-sized
[07:25] <new-tu> scooma: dri.log is mentioned
[07:26] <Scooma> secret901, so the menu is there... but it's just a single pixel below it?
[07:26] <secret901> Scooma: yes
[07:26] <Scooma> new-tu, so open update manager under System->administration
[07:26] <secret901> Scooma: when I try to open the menu, it just drops down one tiny square
[07:26] <Scooma> new-tu, and update your system :)
[07:27] <new-tu> scooma:  hmmm... I updated it half an hour ago...  WHOA!
[07:28] <new-tu> scooma: coooooool
[07:28] <Scooma> new-tu, google about resetting your xorg and read a little about that before rebooting after successfully installing the drivers
[07:28] <secret901> Scooma: it's like now there's nothing in Applications
[07:28] <secret901> Scooma: and I can't edit it
[07:29] <Scooma> secret901, if you add _another_ menu -  say in the middle.... can you see the applications that way?
[07:29] <secret901> Scooma: nope, same thing
[07:30] <albinodingo> is there an issue with connecting to thenet through proxies within VirtualBox?
[07:30] <secret901> Scooma: I was editing the menu when it crashed and rendered the menu useless.  Perhaps it's due to a config file being incorrect or blank?
[07:30] <new-tu> scooma:  ran the command again - same error.  :-P
[07:31] <Scooma> secret901, yeah that's what i'm thinking
[07:31] <secret901> Scooma: do you know where those files are?
[07:31] <secret901> Scooma: I restarted the computer and the problem is still there.
[07:31] <Scooma> secret901, so can you System->preferences -> main menu?
[07:32] <Scooma> new-tu, so you have the latest updates and everything?
[07:32] <secret901> Scooma: nothing happens when I select it
[07:32] <Scooma> new-tu, in that terminal window type    uname -a
[07:32] <new-tu> scooma: yup... just ran the update manager again
[07:32] <secret901> Scooma: is there a way to access it from the terminal to see the error message?
[07:32] <Scooma> secret901, run   update-menus   to rebuild your menus
[07:32] <new-tu> scooma; update manager repeated getting what seems to be the same files
[07:33] <secret901> Scooma: OK, I ran update-menus, but it's still not working
[07:34] <homeskill> when will ubuntu ship with the ext4 filesystem?
[07:34] <Scooma> secret901, can you post a screen show on imageshack or something?
[07:34] <secret901> Scooma: OK
[07:34] <Kartagis> hello
[07:34] <new-tu> scooma:  now typing  uname -a
[07:35] <Scooma> new-tu, update manager shows lots of files?
[07:35] <secret901> Scooma: what's an application I can use to paste my screenshot?
[07:35] <Scooma> when you hit prtscr it should want to save it
[07:35] <secret901> Scooma: nope, I think I recently removed that app
[07:35] <Kartagis> in my other laptop i used to have eth0, but now i have eth1. my apache doesn't work (I think) because of that. how can I get eth0 back?
[07:35] <Scooma> secret901, ????
[07:36] <stevr1it> a simple question : which is the command to dind a portion of text into a file ina  direcotry?
[07:36] <new-tu> scooma:  what do you need from hte reponse I got
[07:36] <stevr1it> find
[07:36] <secret901> Scooma: I was removing traces of KDE and it seemed like a KDE app
[07:36] <Scooma> secret901, ....
[07:37] <Scooma> new-tu, paste the single line it gave you
[07:37] <stevr1it> sorry for the mistake, I need to find a script into a file into folder, which is the right command? I have tried locate
[07:37] <secret901> Scooma: It seems to still be there, but for some reason doesn't ask me to save it when I hit PrntScrn
[07:37] <wers> is it possible to mount my ubuntu partition on os x as a readable one?
[07:37] <secret901> Scooma: never mind, it's in the background, I didn't notice it :-)
[07:38] <new-tu> scooma - brb... I am on an xp laptop next to the ubuntu machine and the laptop battery is about to die
[07:38] <new-tu> scooma: need to find a chat client for ubuntu and get back to u  :)
[07:38] <dronix> new-tu: x-chat
[07:39] <Scooma> secret901, sudo apt-get install gnome-utils
[07:39] <secret901> Scooma: it's there and working
[07:39] <Scooma> secret901, ah ok
[07:39] <secret901> Scooma: but it won't ask me to save it if I hit PrntScrn while I try to open the Applications menu
[07:39] <Scooma> new-tu, it's built in under internet in the applications menu?
[07:40] <eugeniow> hello all I need some help upgrading from 7.04 t0 7.10, upgrade manager seems to use the wrong mirror even after I update the source.list any ideas on how to over come this issue?
[07:40] <new-tu> scooma: thanks... brb...
[07:40] <secret901> Scooma: doesn't look like it lets me take screenshots while menus are open
[07:41] <mib_dj4zq4> hi just giving "linux single" in an ubuntu live cd boot prompt would lead me to a root-console ?
[07:41] <new-tu> scoooma: now chatting on ubuntu
[07:41] <new-tu> scooma: pasting about to happen
[07:41] <mib_dj4zq4> or rather, how can i get a root console using ubuntu live cd?
[07:41] <dronix> new-tu: what client r u using now?
[07:42] <dronix> ctrl+F2 ?
[07:42] <mib_dj4zq4> dronix: to me?
[07:42] <new-tu> scooma:  Linux ubuntu-desktop 2.6.27-11-generic #1 SMP Thu Jan 29 19:24:39 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
[07:42] <dronix> mib_dj4zq4: yes
[07:42] <Dezine> Wondering how to setup remote desktop connection on Ubuntu using only the terminal?
[07:43] <mib_dj4zq4> i mean even before getting the x started, coz the system may have low resources..
[07:43] <dronix> ah
[07:43] <wers> is it possible to write on my os x partition?
[07:44] <secret901> Scooma: what program besides gimp can I use to edit images? I can't open Applications so I can't see the list
[07:44] <new-tu> dronix chatzilla
[07:44] <mib_dj4zq4> my work would be done by a root console..and the system may be having low resources, so just directly booting into root console prompt will do.
[07:44] <dronix> new-tu: ah ok, I still prefre x-chat though
[07:44] <mib_dj4zq4> something like "linux single" will do that? as in normal system grub?
[07:45] <palomer> how do I install java development stuff?
[07:45] <new-tu> scooma: Linux ubuntu-desktop 2.6.27-11-generic #1 SMP Thu Jan 29 19:24:39 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
[07:45] <Scooma> secret901, i think we'll just reset your settings
[07:45] <secret901> Scooma: my menu settings?
[07:45] <secret901> Scooma: how do I do that?
[07:45] <Scooma> new-tu, yes i see it thanks. in your update manager, you should install everything
[07:46] <Scooma> new-tu, until your update manager is empty
[07:47] <JoeBelow> palomer: install sun-java6-jdk (in terminal: apt-get install sun-java6-jdk)
[07:48] <palomer> got it
[07:48] <palomer> thx
[07:48] <Kartagis> I have eth1 but I needed eth0 back so I edited /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules and restarted udev, but i have eth1 again. what do I need to do?
[07:49] <new-tu> scooma:  wierd...  I hit the check button in update manager, it downloads files, shows nothing, and install button is dimmed
[07:50] <new-tu> scooma:  hitting check button again repeats same sequence
[07:50] <Bill> Hi I need to access the parallel port on my computer, I dont know how to find it in /dev
[07:51] <new-tu> scooma: update manager claims I am updated - strange
[07:52] <secret901> Scooma: do you know how to reset the settings?
[07:56] <H3l1c0pt3r> dead in here?
[07:56] <new-tu> uh oh... channel freeze
[07:56] <new-tu> impending netsplit?
[07:56] <Scooma> secret901,  http://jamsi.me/post/63636429/reset-gnome-menu-in-ubuntu
[07:56] <H3l1c0pt3r> new-tu, doubt it
[07:57] <Scooma> new-tu, close update manager and go back to the terminal
[07:57] <Peddy> My sound is really stuttery... could someone please help me?
[07:57] <Scooma> in the terminal type    sudo apt-get upgrade
[07:57] <new-tu> scooma: update closed, back to terminal'
[07:57] <mib_dj4zq4> nebody had problems with arecord, not being able to capture the audio?
[07:58] <mib_dj4zq4> while still having the capture device there as per /proc/asound ?
[07:58] <secret901> Scooma: when I ran update-menus, I didn't restart X, would it have made a difference?
[07:58] <H3l1c0pt3r> !ask | mib_dj4zq4
[07:58] <Scooma> secret901, gnome loads then, your whole gui is gnome
[07:59] <new-tu> scooma:  Reading package lists... Done
[07:59] <new-tu> Building dependency tree
[07:59] <mib_dj4zq4> H3l1c0pt3r: okay.. the problem is that i can't get arecord to get the sound, though the headphone itself returns the sound back!
[07:59] <new-tu> Reading state information... Done
[07:59] <new-tu> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded
[07:59] <FloodBot3> new-tu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:59] <Scooma> secret901, anyway you have a backup if you followed the instructions
[07:59] <constantine__> how do you password protect an application in ubuntu intrepid?
[08:00] <wers> what's the simplest way to change my uid?
[08:00] <Scooma> wers, which uid? disk uid?
[08:00] <wers> Scooma, user's ID
[08:01] <Scooma> wers,  you mean your username?
[08:01] <secret901> Scooma: there's no file called "menu" to rename
[08:01] <Scooma> it's a .menu (hidden)
[08:02] <wers> Scooma, user ID as in 1000 or 1001 or 1002
[08:02] <fwaokda> how can i install the w32codecs?
[08:02] <Scooma> new-tu, do this   cd /boot/grub
[08:02] <secret901> Scooma: could you link me to the page again? I just restarted X
[08:02] <Scooma> http://jamsi.me/post/63636429/reset-gnome-menu-in-ubuntu
[08:02] <constantine__> how do you make a program executable by root only?
[08:02] <new-tu> scooma: ackhowledged
[08:03] <new-tu> scooma: ubuntu@ubuntu-desktop:/boot/grub$
[08:03] <secret901> Scooma: there doesn't seem to be a file called "menu" to rename.
[08:03] <Scooma> wers,  usermod -u UID username
[08:04] <Ienorand> constantine__: use chmod: http://www.computerhope.com/unix/uchmod.htm
[08:04] <wers> Scooma, is it completely safe? no other things to adjust?
[08:04] <Scooma> new-tu,   sudo gedit menu.lst
[08:04] <secret901> Scooma: I'm going to try it with the "menus" directory
[08:04] <secret901> Scooma: brb
[08:04] <Scooma> wers i wouldn't bother with it
[08:05] <Scooma> wers unless there's a critical reason to do it
[08:05] <sd32> fwaokda, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=79449
[08:05] <wers> Scooma, it's to access my os x partition
[08:05] <Extreme_b> hi, guys, can anyone guide me a way to change my nfs to run on tcp instead on udp?
[08:05] <hateball> Extreme_b: are you on 8.04?
[08:05] <Extreme_b> i'm currently using ubuntu 8.04 server
[08:06] <Extreme_b> hateball: yes i am
[08:06] <secret901> Scooma: thanks, it worked
[08:06] <Scooma> secret cool
[08:06] <secret901> Scooma: now I have to clean it up again and hopefully not crash it like last time
[08:06] <Scooma> secret901, bookmark that into your firefox for next time
[08:07] <hateball> Extreme_b: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/213444/comments/23
[08:07] <new-tu> scooma: cool...  the unix answer to lolnotepad  ;)
[08:07] <hateball> Extreme_b: I have the same problem... the deb works just fine
[08:07] <Scooma> new-tu, done that?
[08:07] <new-tu> scooma got it
[08:08] <Scooma> new-tu, now, in there are many different entries near the bottom... i'm looking for something that says "kernel 2.6.27-13"
[08:08] <Scooma> new-tu, perhaps it's at the top of the group of entries that look similar
[08:09] <new-tu> scooma: kernel		/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.27-7-generic root=UUID=7530d36f
[08:09] <Scooma> new-tu, no need to paste, just tell me if you have a 27-13 in there
[08:10] <jumbers> Hey guys, I'm having issues with the package manager download speeds dropping off severely, seemingly randomly. This is not limited to Ubuntu repos, but third party ones also. The download speed will suddenly drop to about 3kbps after running at 800 or more
[08:10] <constantine__> lenorand: did this:~/Desktop$ chmod 100 thunderbird.desktop
[08:10] <constantine__> and it won't work now
[08:11] <secret901> Scooma: argh, again
[08:11] <Scooma> secret901, heh
[08:11] <Scooma> secret901, maybe give it a rest for today? try again tomorrow when you're refreshed. I think you might be hitting some keycombo to do that
[08:11] <new-tu> scooma: doing a search for "27-" (without quotes)  - no 27-13, but we do see a 27-11
[08:12] <secret901> Scooma: ok, thanks
[08:12] <Scooma> new-tu, that's your problem. you've got 27.11 but you should have 27.13... let me look at the installer maybe we can force it to install anyway
[08:13] <new-tu> scooma: thanjks
[08:13] <Extreme_b> hateball: thanks alot .. it works
[08:14] <hateball> Extreme_b: Yeah. What's funny is that it's not fixed in 8.10... not checked 9.04 yet. Even tho the code is provided there.
[08:15] <Extreme_b> hateball: yea.. haha.. the..
[08:15] <Sam2> hI
[08:15] <Sam2> HI ANYBODY FROM AFRICA????????????????????????? I HAVE SOME BUSINESS TO OFFER......................................................
[08:16] <quibbler> !ot | Sam2
[08:16] <lukketto> sam2: I can move to africa
[08:16] <Scooma> new-tu, can you go back to the dripkg folder and rerun it again?    sudo ./install.sh
[08:17] <Sam2> ANYBODY FROM AFRICA?????????????????????????????????????????????
[08:17] <Scooma> kicl sam2
[08:17] <Scooma> kick sam2
[08:17] <Sam2> SCOOMA R U FROM AFRICA?
[08:17] <jumbers> I'm from Africa
[08:18] <Myrtti> !attitude | Sam2
[08:18] <new-tu> scooma: did so - same errors
[08:18] <Myrtti> Sam2: behave, please
[08:18] <Gary> Sam2: this is a main support channel, not a chat channel
[08:18] <Sam2> JUMBERS U WANT TO PRIVATE CHAT???
[08:18] <Scooma> new-tu,  can you paste me the error message? (if it's a one-liner)
[08:18] <jumbers> Sam2: No.
[08:18] <jumbers> Moron
[08:18] <new-tu> scooma:  more than one line
[08:19] <Scooma> sam2 wants some africa
[08:19] <jumbers> So anyway, does anybody know what would cause random slowdowns of my package downloads?
[08:19] <Scooma> new-tu, okay gimme the first line then... like "warning: .... " or "error:...."  i can find the rest in the install script
[08:19] <Scooma> jumbers, your ISP hates you?
[08:19] <new-tu> scooma: sent by private msg to u
[08:20] <Scooma> jumbers, have you selected a close mirror for your updates?
[08:20] <jumbers> Scooma: College dorm network. Other things don't seem to do this, only package updates really
[08:20] <jumbers> Scooma: It's not only Ubuntu repos. I'm having the exact same problem with third party ones also
[08:20] <Med1a> hey ,,, i want connect to ubuntu from windows via remote desktop ?????
[08:20] <Scooma> new-tu, okay priv msg me the dri.log file.... to see it, cat dri.log
[08:20] <quibbler> jumbers, maybe sever is busy ..try another
[08:20] <Med1a> hey ,,, i want connect to ubuntu from windows via remote desktop ?????
[08:21] <Scooma> jumbers, does your college run a mirror?
[08:21] <Myrtti> !patience | Med1a
[08:21] <lukketto> med1a: rdesktop
[08:21] <jumbers> quibbler: It happens on several different servers. Plus I doubt the xbmc server is that overloaded that it goes at 3KB/s
[08:21] <jumbers> Scooma: Not that I know of
[08:21] <Scooma> jumbers, check the mirrors list to see if your uni is in it
[08:22] <aj_> alt+ f1 opens up application menu...how to set keyboard shortcut for shutdown menu...????/
[08:22] <Scooma> medla install tight-vnc on your windows machine and use that
[08:22] <jumbers> Scooma: Nope, they don't
[08:22] <Med1a> what about UltraVNC ??
[08:23] <new-tu> scooma: msg sent
[08:23] <Silberling> I'm having trouble with an Intel SDS2 MainBoard + Intel Gbit Coppercable + Adaptec 2610SA SATA RAID. Both PCIX Devices run extremely slow and i don't know why.
[08:23] <geirha> aj_: System -> Preferences -> Keyboard shortcuts
[08:23] <sexcopter1> hi, anyone know a way to change the background colour/image of a pidgin irc chat window?
[08:23] <Scooma> new-tu, yeah you look like you're out of luck there mate
[08:24] <geirha> aj_: It's probably set to ctrl+alt+del by default
[08:24] <aj_> geirha_ : but there is no option for 'shutdown'
[08:24] <Scooma> new-tu, the installer cannot figure out which "back-end" to compile for... ummm
[08:24] <new-tu> scooma: wat is wrong
[08:24] <geirha> aj_: Look for logout
[08:24] <aj_> that is for log out
[08:24] <aj_> yes
[08:25] <jumbers> Scooma: I'm wondering if the school is throttling my bandwidth
[08:25] <Myrtti> sexcopter1: I don't think that's possible...
[08:25] <new-tu> scooma: any way to inform it?
[08:26] <Scooma> new-tu, it looks like the installer is confused. it wants files from two different architecture back-ends to compile
[08:26] <Scooma> new-tu, do this instead. go to on the menu bar (System - > administration -> hardware drivers)
[08:27] <Scooma> jumbers, probably
[08:27] <Scooma> jumbers, do you have another NIC?
[08:27] <new-tu> scooma: going there now
[08:27] <jumbers> Scooma: I'm running behind a router. I was considering changing my MAC address
[08:27] <Scooma> jumbers, maybe swap your network card for someone else's
[08:27] <Scooma> jumbers, shared router?
[08:27] <jumbers> Scooma: My own personal router
[08:27] <Anub|s> ubuntu just broke on me, the desktop/gui/icons are all black or they disappear when I mouse over them
[08:28] <Scooma> jumbers, probably
[08:28] <jumbers> Scooma: I'm gonna change it and see what happens
[08:29] <Scooma> jumbers, prob it's a mac on your machine more than likely... or both
[08:29] <Scooma> *a mac=the mac
[08:29] <Scooma> new-tu, do you see entries in there?
[08:30] <Anub|s> I'm back in windows so I can solve the problem :P
[08:30] <new-tu> scooma no
[08:30] <Scooma> jumbers, change both at the same time when you're disconnected from the network
[08:30] <jumbers> Scooma: Gah. Changed it and no luck
[08:31] <jigp> hello guys how to install Sun xVM VirtualBox with usb support?
[08:31] <Kartagis> i am trying to umount the samba shares at poweroff. I found a script for it and wrote it in /etc/init.d/ then I made a symbolic link with ln -s ../init.d/umountsmb K15umountsmb in /etc/rc2.d/ but it doesn't seem to work. how come?
[08:31] <ziroday> jigp: I believe you need to install the closed source version
[08:31] <Med1a> any one tell me what the diffrent with Ubuntu and KUbuntu ??
[08:31] <sebsebseb> jigp: get the binary from their website http://www.virtualbox.org
[08:32] <sebsebseb> Med1a: Ubuntu is based on Gnome,  and Kubuntu uses KDE
[08:32] <jigp> sebsebseb ziroday : yes I have it. desktop 8.04 gnome. virtualbox-2.1_2.1.4-42893_Ubuntu_hardy_i386.deb ... but the problem is  http://img123.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotu.png
[08:32] <Scooma> new-tu, do this in the terminal:    sudo apt-get install 915resolution
[08:32] <jigp> sebsebseb ziroday : I already re downloaded the .deb
[08:32] <jigp> sebsebseb ziroday : but same thing
[08:32] <ziroday> jigp: it says installation finished...
[08:33] <Kartagis> I can tell it didn't work because I am logging the output and the log is nowhere to be found.
[08:33] <ziroday> jigp: ah woops
[08:33] <jigp> sebsebseb ziroday : its finished but look at the error
[08:33] <new-tu> scooma doing so
[08:33] <ziroday> jigp: you need to remove the virtualbox-ose package, its conflicting
[08:33] <jigp> ziroday: done removing.i already restarted the ubuntu
[08:33] <jigp> same thiing
[08:34] <ziroday> jigp: as well as virtualbox-ose-modules?
[08:34] <Anub|s> this must be a common problem, ubuntu losing total functionality
[08:34] <Duddle> hello everybody! I'm using the default CPU frequency scaling monitor in Ubuntu 8.10. Ubuntu correctly recognized some available frequencies, but I would like to have it not go to the highest level (cpu heats too quickly, gotta dust it off sometime soon). the list with the available frequencies is read only, can I set these somewhere else?
[08:34] <jigp> ziroday: this is how I removed sudo apt-get --purge remove virtualbox-ose; sudo apt-get --purge autoremove
[08:34] <new-tu> scooma: eror msgd to u
[08:34] <ziroday> jigp: try doing sudo apt-get remove --purge virtualbox-ose-modules*
[08:34] <Scooma> new-tu, i have to go sorry... but i do have this link for you. it should fix that for you
[08:34] <xukun> I have a feeling that my tv is getting audio signal from dvi-hdmi cabel becouse it's saying "Unsupported Audio Signal check your output device"
[08:34] <Scooma> new-tu     http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=324379&highlight=installing+intel+extreme+graphics+on+linux
[08:34] <xukun> Is that even possible?
[08:35] <ziroday> Duddle: you can set it to stay at a lower frequency with the CPU applet
[08:35] <Scooma> new-tu, good luck
[08:35] <ziroday> xukun: hdmi contains the audio feed as well as the video feed
[08:35] <Duddle> ziroday: yes, but I would still like it to be somewhat dynamic
[08:35] <Anub|s> how do I get my desktop back?
[08:36] <naymyowin> hi
[08:36] <ziroday> Duddle: well then you could set it to conservative or powersave
[08:36] <naymyowin> how to enable modem on toshiba L300
[08:36] <ziroday> Anub|s: you will need to be more specific :)
[08:36] <naymyowin> ??
[08:36] <naymyowin> i never get dialup networking on my laptop L300
[08:36] <Duddle> ziroday: but then it will still go to the highest value on too much stress
[08:36] <Kartagis> Anub|s, you need to install ubuntu-desktop maybe?
[08:37] <Anub|s> ziroday: I login, put in my password, the background image loads and then where everything else should be, I either see a few multi colored lines or mouse over it and it disappears, if I click on something, dark matter shows up on my screen where the window would be
[08:38] <limer> I piped the output of a command into nano and I'm unable to get out using ^c ^x etc.  anyone know what I can do to kill it?
[08:38] <ziroday> Anub|s: sounds nasty, have you tried with a new user?
[08:38] <Anub|s> ziroday: no but I had just added one
[08:38] <ziroday> Anub|s: well can you try with a new user please
[08:40] <geirha> kill nano or the command you piped to it, from another terminal
[08:40] <limer> geirha, how can I do this via putty?
[08:40] <geirha> limer: Open another putty-session
[08:41] <jigp> ziroday : do I need to restart?done installing
[08:41] <xukun> ziroday, thanks for the feedback. But I,m using dvi to hdmi cabel and the tv is thinking it's gettign audio signal. I thought that is the case if both sides of the cabel are hdmi
[08:41] <ziroday> jigp: err uninstalling or installing?
[08:41] <ziroday> xukun: ah, don't know about that sorry
[08:41] <jigp> ziroday: done intalling
[08:41] <jigp> ziroday: done installing
[08:41] <ziroday> jigp: yeah, restart would be best
[08:41] <Duddle_> hello everybody! I'm using the default CPU frequency scaling monitor in Ubuntu 8.10. Ubuntu correctly recognized some available frequencies, but I would like to have it not go to the highest level (cpu heats too quickly, gotta dust it off sometime soon). the file with the available frequencies is read only, can I set these somewhere else?
[08:42] <jigp> ziroday : thanks for the reply.rebooting it now
[08:42] <limer> geirha, thank you.  so simple, yet so effective :)
[08:43] <xukun> can I tell the video card only to send a video signal to the tv and no audio?
[08:44] <Duddle> oops, I just recognized, that "Ubuntu Servers" = freenode -_-
[08:44] <SixtyFold> hehe Duddle
[08:45] <KyleGP> I need some help with virtualbox, its only showing in a small window
[08:45] <KyleGP> even when I run in fullscreen
[08:46] <ziroday> KyleGP: you need to set the resolution of the VM higher, also you'll probably get better answers in #vbox
[08:46] <KyleGP> how do i change the res?
[08:47] <ziroday> KyleGP: you're running ubuntu in the VM?
[08:47] <KyleGP> Nope, Im in ubuntu running the windows vista setup
[08:47] <KyleGP> through virtualbox
[08:48] <ActionParsnip1> KyleGP: for what reason do you need vista in a VM?
[08:48] <ziroday> KyleGP: well then you need to ask ##windows how to increase your resolution size
[08:48] <DigitalKiwi> to play games ofc
[08:48] <vanksi> using encrypted lvm on 8.10, is it possible to change the promtp text on boot to something else more obscure from "Enter the key to unlock volume...."?
[08:48] <ActionParsnip1> DigitalKiwi: they run pretty badly compared to native.
[08:49] <KyleGP> because I need to run windows programs that dont work with wine
[08:49] <KyleGP> and I want to try out the performance under virtualbox
[08:49] <ActionParsnip1> KyleGP: remember to run it seamless, thats good fun
[08:49] <KyleGP> what does that mean?
[08:50] <D00NGi4> Hi all, what would be the best way to get support for the ATI proprietary driver (FGLRX) with a video tearing issue over HDMI with the new 780 chipset?
[08:50] <xukun> does anybody advice me a good video card with hdmi not one with dvi?
[08:51] <ActionParsnip1> KyleGP: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSZHrjjcv6c
[08:51] <ActionParsnip1> !ot | xukun
[08:52] <ActionParsnip1> KyleGP: pretty much sums it up
[08:52] <jigp> ziroday : how to delete the existing files that I've installed in old version of virtualbox ose?it seems that they are still there
[08:52] <KyleGP> ok ill take a look now
[08:52] <KyleGP> also, i havnt installed vista yet, its only the setup im talking about thats windowed
[08:52] <ziroday> jigp: well you could just rm the files
[08:52] <KyleGP> and if i view fullscreen it doesnt stretch it or anything, its just a smaller window in the centre of the screen
[08:52] <jigp> ziroday: im not a programmer dude :(
[08:53] <ActionParsnip1> jigp: the files for your old vboxes will be in ~/.Virtualbox
[08:53] <jigp> ActionParsnip1 : thanks
[08:53] <ActionParsnip1> jigp: I'm not a programmer either
[08:53] <naymyowin> hi
[08:54] <ActionParsnip1> !hi | naymyowin
[08:54] <jigp> ~$ cd ~/.Virtualbox
[08:54] <jigp> bash: cd: /home/jigp/.Virtualbox: No such file or directory
[08:54] <naymyowin> how to enable modem on my toshiba satellite L300?
[08:54] <KyleGP> ah yes
[08:54] <KyleGP> I know this
[08:54] <ActionParsnip1> jigp: try: cd ~/; ls -a
[08:54] <KyleGP> Ive played around with microsoft VM software and have done this too lol
[08:54] <ActionParsnip1> KyleGP: its massive bloat but looks cleaner
[08:54] <KyleGP> Well Im learning alot about ubuntu, because I got sick of windows.
[08:54] <Boohbah> naymyowin: find out what hardware you have using lspci, then find out what module is used to support that hardware and install it
[08:55] <dsre> how do i turn desktop ubuntu into server ubuntu?
[08:55] <KyleGP> and even if I have to run windows, Id like to do it under linux :D
[08:55] <KyleGP> lol
[08:55] <ActionParsnip1> KyleGP: sick of what exactly?
[08:55] <Boohbah> dsre: install some daemons?
[08:55] <daftykins> i got sick of windows too
[08:55] <ziroday> jigp: do sudo updatedb && mlocate vboxdrv.ko
[08:55] <daftykins> it's just too easy
[08:55] <daftykins> and becoming so un-necessary bloated
[08:55] <KyleGP> Stability being terrible,memory hog
[08:55] <daftykins> install vista and the latest msn messenger, you'll run to Linux almost immediately
[08:55] <Myrtti> hey folks, welcome to #ubuntu-offtopic :-)
[08:56] <ActionParsnip1> KyleGP: and running vista in a virtual box as well as linux isnt a huge memory hog?
[08:56] <daftykins> but you're in the wrong channel Myrtti ! :)
[08:56] <KyleGP> agreed
[08:56] <Kartagis> i am trying to umount the samba shares at poweroff. I found a script for it and wrote it in /etc/init.d/ then I made a symbolic link with ln -s ../init.d/umountsmb K15umountsmb in /etc/rc2.d/ but it doesn't seem to work. how come?
[08:56] <KyleGP> well
[08:56] <KyleGP> yeah i guess it will be lol
[08:56] <ActionParsnip1> KyleGP: you're shooting yourself in the foot using vbox
[08:56] <KyleGP> well
[08:56] <KyleGP> right now, im tripple booting
[08:56] <KyleGP> XP, Vista and ubuntu
[08:56] <ActionParsnip1> KyleGP: so your rant about memory hog isnt cured by linux, in fact its making it worse
[08:56] <KyleGP> but If I can run what I need to all inside ubuntu without it being too slow then I would
[08:57] <dsre> how do i turn desktop ubuntu into server ubuntu?
[08:57] <ActionParsnip1> dsre: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[08:57] <ActionParsnip1> dsre: why did you install server if you wanted a desktop system?
[08:57] <ziroday> dsre: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-server && sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-deskop && sudo apt-get autoremove
[08:57] <dsre> action i have desktop and i want server
[08:57] <dsre> ActionParsnip1,  i have desktop and i want server
[08:57] <ziroday> ActionParsnip1: you got it the wrong way around :)
[08:58] <daftykins> nn all
[08:58] <ActionParsnip1> dsre: unless you have a 32bit chip and more than 4Gb ram you arent going to see any difference hardly
[08:58] <jigp> ActionParsnip1,  ziroday: where do you guys get this commands? whew its very weird command....
[08:58] <ActionParsnip1> jigp: logic for me
[08:58] <ziroday> jigp: which command are you referring to?
[08:59] <dsre> action, so there's no point in switching?
[08:59] <dsre> ActionParsnip1, , so there's no point in switching?
[08:59] <KyleGP> Also I want to know if i understand this correctly. Metacity is the window manager for ubuntu. Then there is GTK which is the compiz window dec, and emerald, another window dec.
[08:59] <jigp> sudo updatedb && mlocate vboxdrv.ko cd ~/; ls -a ~/.Virtualbox
[08:59] <ActionParsnip1> dsre: no, for a normal user with a standard pc, not really
[09:00] <ActionParsnip1> dsre: this is why I ask, what do you hope to gain?
[09:00] <ziroday> jigp: you learn them over time, did the first command output anything?
[09:00] <dsre> ActionParsnip1, im going to be running a server
[09:00] <ActionParsnip1> dsre: what spec is the server?
[09:00] <jigp> ziroday : /home/jigp/.Virtualbox - couldn't find command. I type it in the home folder at Places
[09:00] <ActionParsnip1> dsre: and what will the server be hosting
[09:00] <ActionParsnip1> jigp: run: cd ~/; ls -a
[09:00] <dsre> what do you mean what spec ActionParsnip1
[09:01] <jigp> ziroday sudo updatedb && mlocate vboxdrv.ko this one works
[09:01] <ActionParsnip1> jigp: read the screen, one folder will be clearly for your virtualboxes
[09:01] <ziroday> KyleGP: metacity and compiz are window managers. emerald is a window decorator (note emerald is buggy and unmaintained)
[09:01] <jigp> ActionParsnip1 : yeah I saw lots of files cd ~/; ls -a
[09:01] <ActionParsnip1> dsre: cpu type, speed and ram quantuty
[09:01] <ziroday> jigp: sure, but what did it output?
[09:01] <jigp> ActionParsnip1 : but how to delete?
[09:02] <ActionParsnip1> jigp: if you want to completely remove all virtualboxes and config run: rm -rf <folder to delete here>
[09:02] <ActionParsnip1> jigp: then you will have no vboxes or settings for vbox
[09:02] <jigp> ziroday : sudo updatedb && mlocate vboxdrv.ko [sudo] password for jigp:  /lib/modules/2.6.24-23-386/misc/vboxdrv.ko /lib/modules/2.6.24-23-generic/misc/vboxdrv.ko /limodules/2.6.24-23-rt/misc/vboxdrv.ko /lib/modules/2.6.24-23-server/misc/vboxdrv.ko /lib/modules/2.6.24-24-generic/misc/vboxdrv.ko /usr/src/modules/virtualbox-ose/.vboxdrv.ko.cmd /usr/src/modules virtualbox-ose/vboxdrv.ko
[09:03] <ActionParsnip1> dsre: server can help 32bit CPUs use more ram with PAE, but otherwise its the same OS with no X server by default
[09:03] <KyleGP> what are some other window decorators? what do you use?
[09:03] <jigp> ActionParsnip1: does my sun box deleted too?
[09:03] <ziroday> jigp: right, well do rm /path/to/vboxdrv.ko for each of those line
[09:03] <Kartagis> hello
[09:03] <r3dux> hi
[09:03] <Kartagis> i am trying to umount the samba shares at poweroff. I found a script for it and wrote it in /etc/init.d/ then I made a symbolic link with ln -s ../init.d/umountsmb K15umountsmb in /etc/rc2.d/ but it doesn't seem to work. how come?
[09:03] <ActionParsnip1> jigp: yes as they are stored in the same folder
[09:03] <ziroday> KyleGP: metacity is really the only window decorator out there/
[09:03] <dsre> ActionParsnip1, whats pae?
[09:04] <naymyowin> Boohbah: http://paste.ubuntu.com/127109/
[09:04] <jigp> $ rm /path/to/vboxdrv.ko
[09:04] <jigp> rm: cannot remove `/path/to/vboxdrv.ko': No such file or directory
[09:04] <ActionParsnip1> dsre: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_Address_Extension
[09:04] <r3dux> Kartagis, do you need to unmount samba shares? It's just a network connection.. surely it just terminates the connection when you power down?
[09:05] <Kartagis> r3dux, when I poweroff, it waits soooo long
[09:05] <ActionParsnip1> dsre: you sound like you have zero reason to install server, you are unclear about what it actually give a user, you'd be better suited to running the desktop system. It can run exactly the same services and apps
[09:05] <KyleGP> Im confused....lol I thought metacity was a window manager
[09:05] <r3dux> Kart - wow, odd - my NAS (mounted via samba) doesn't give a damn....
[09:05] <ActionParsnip1> KyleGP: it is
 KyleGP: metacity is really the only window decorator out there/
[09:06] <Seper> KyleGP: There are a lot of other window managers available, but they can be a ass to setup. Metacity and Gnome are developed very closely together making them work as just about the best combo
[09:06] <ziroday> KyleGP: metacity is both :)
[09:06] <KyleGP> ahhh
[09:06] <KyleGP> I see
[09:06] <ActionParsnip1> KyleGP: its the window manager for gnome
[09:06] <KyleGP> lol
[09:06] <ActionParsnip1> KyleGP: by default
[09:06] <ziroday> KyleGP: I believe the decorator part is called gtk-decorator
[09:06] <SkyNetMaster> ins there any make channel? I need help setting make environment and have some issues
[09:06] <KyleGP> So for example, if I go into appearance under ubuntu and change stuff there, thats metacitys work?
[09:06] <r3dux> KyleGP, KWin is the KDE one.
[09:06] <ActionParsnip1> KyleGP: yes
[09:06] <KyleGP> Ahhh
[09:06] <Knysliux001> hello :)
[09:06] <KyleGP> cool =)
[09:07] <KyleGP> and you can use GTK themes with metacity?
[09:07] <ActionParsnip1> KyleGP: you can run a different window manager but with the same apps, like xfce
[09:07] <KyleGP> correct?
[09:07] <Kartagis> r3dux, what can I do?
[09:07] <ActionParsnip1> KyleGP: sure
[09:07] <Seper> KyleGP: yes
[09:07] <r3dux> Kartagis, what do you have connected?
[09:07] <Kartagis> r3dux, 3 samba shares
[09:07] <KyleGP> okay, and whats a window manager do exactly? Im using compiz window manager, does that just mean I can have all the extra effects and stuff?
[09:08] <r3dux> Kartagis, if you don't have any samba shares does it close down real quick?
[09:08] <ActionParsnip1> KyleGP: you can also boot into kde and kwin will be the window manager, but the apps will still act the same and be laid out the same, they will just be generated by kwin
[09:08] <Kartagis> r3dux, yes
[09:08] <r3dux> -have +mount
[09:08] <ActionParsnip1> KyleGP: compiz replaces metacity (hence compiz --replace)
[09:08] <r3dux> Hmm... is your samba connection configured properly?
[09:09] <KyleGP> okay, well Im using Emerald as the window decorator, only because emerald is capable of transparency
[09:09] <ActionParsnip1> KyleGP: it draws each app window in its own space then uses 3d grooviness to make them appear 3d
[09:09] <r3dux> Kartagis, I'd try with each share separately, see if it's just one of the samba connections that's glitching
[09:09] <ActionParsnip1> KyleGP: emerald is a window decorator, the top bar of each window
[09:09] <Kartagis> r3dux, //campus01/mtozses	/mnt/t		smbfs	credentials=/root/.campus01	0	1 / //suimage/backup	/mnt/backup	smbfs	credentials=/root/.suimage	0	1 / //suimage/image        	/mnt/image	smbfs	credentials=/root/.suimage      0       1
[09:10] <KyleGP> and then what about the top control bar? is that metacity?
[09:10] <Seper> KyleGP: I believe- Window Manager controls window functions and menus. Gnome controls the desktop.
[09:10] <jigp> ActionParsnip1: ziroday:  is there a way to just use folders or view folders to delete the files?
[09:10] <Seper> KyleGP: That stated in simplest terrms
[09:10] <ziroday> jigp: yep, with sudo nautilus
[09:10] <KyleGP> and the top control bar is part of the desktop so it has nothing to do with the window manager/themer?
[09:10] <ActionParsnip1> ziroday: gksudo nautilus
[09:11] <ActionParsnip1> jigp: use gksudo for nautilus, its a gui app
[09:11] <ziroday> ActionParsnip1: my bad :P
[09:11] <rage> Mmmm, I just noted something about Gnome Power Manager, when I plug my laptop in it says it is running on AC power.
[09:11] <rage> However it is not in this particular case,
[09:11] <ActionParsnip1> ziroday: np man, you pick me up too. thats teamwork :D
[09:11] <r3dux> Kartagis, Not specifing uid and gid? Odd... Can I have:
[09:11] <rage> It is running off a larger lead acid battery using a 12V DC->DC adapter
[09:11] <jigp> ziroday : what's the use of this>? rm /path/to/vboxdrv.ko why I need to delete this?
[09:12] <r3dux> /192.168.1.100/Share /mnt/NAS smbfs username=r3dux,password=MyPasswordHere,uid=500,gid=500 0 0
[09:12] <rage> Should be updated to say it is running on external power
[09:12] <r3dux> -can... "I have.." the above
[09:12] <Seper> KyleGP: Some window managers have much much more functionality, some have very much less. So there is no clear line between WinManager and DesktopEnvironment
[09:12] <jigp> ziroday : so I cannot use my existing files that I've installed esp os that I've installed?I cannot open them in this new sun box virtual?
[09:12] <ActionParsnip1> rage: ideally, maybe theres a service you can restart
[09:13] <KyleGP> Is GTK the window decorator for metacity but can also be used with compiz? Im still a bit confused on what GTK is... (sorry for being a noob)
[09:13] <Kartagis> r3dux, does that effect things?
[09:13] <Seper> KyleGP: GTK is a graphical interface library.
[09:14] <alap> hi, i am using hardy 8.10 on my laptop and getting error while compiling kernel. the error is E:unable to find source package for linux-ubuntu-module-2.6.27-11-generic. can any one tell me how and from where to download this package. i am referring instructions given at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/kernel/compile
[09:14] <ActionParsnip1> KyleGP: GTK = Gimp ToolKit
[09:14] <KyleGP> so its basically just an extention...like...a pakage of images that you can use with compiz...metacity...?
[09:15] <cjae> ok I have two seagate freeagent external hardrives and have used ntfsprogs to rename them (much easier to tell apart) how come they come up as freeagents in my bios?
[09:15] <r3dux> Kartargis, I'd guess yes, even though I've specifying 500, the user as set up on the NAS interface is 700 which over-rides it... try using my format for connection, ya never know..
[09:15] <r3dux> "i'm"
[09:15] <ActionParsnip1> cjae: bios doesnt read the names, bios can only read what the firmware says
[09:16] <ActionParsnip1> cjae: the names you gave are read by higher level OSes like Linux or windows
[09:16] <ActionParsnip1> KyleGP: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GTK%2B
[09:16] <AZBigK> hello
[09:16] <cjae> ActionParsnip1: wasn't aware the the firmware had labels as well thank you
[09:16] <naymyowin> Boohbah: what do i do?
[09:16] <Kartagis> when I poweroff, what runlevel does the system go into?
[09:16] <AZBigK> i wonder if i am in the right channel
[09:16] <Knysliux001> Hi, can you help me. When I enable compiz, all QT based applications shows menus like this http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/3640/qtmenus.png
[09:17] <Knysliux001> As you can see no fonts visible
[09:17] <ActionParsnip1> cjae: when you boot and the devices are detected, those are the things read from the IDE of each hard drive
[09:17] <ActionParsnip1> cjae: you can't modify that
[09:17] <Kartagis> AZBigK, you never know unless you ask
[09:17] <KyleGP> also im in xchat, might I ask how you highlight my name when you reply to me? lol
[09:17] <ActionParsnip1> Knysliux001: i'd head into #compiz for support
[09:17] <r3dux> Kartagis, um, none? I don't think it "drops down" from 5...
[09:17] <r3dux> or 7
[09:17] <ActionParsnip1> Knysliux001: compiz breaks tinigs good, its not worth it imho
[09:17] <Knysliux001> ActionParsnip1: thanks for advice ;)
[09:17] <AZBigK> i would like to build a ubuntu with my customized apps
[09:18] <cjae> ActionParsnip1: I guess it is just like normal IDES coming up in the bios as master or slaves and such
[09:18] <linnuxxy> I've installed ubuntu 8.10 from liveCD... and then apted install kubuntu-desktop... the problem is I have blue booting screening of kubuntu know... how return back to the orginal brown booting progress bar of ubuntu?
[09:18] <AZBigK> is there any specific tutorial out there?
[09:18] <ActionParsnip1> cjae: SATA drives have IDE too
[09:18] <ActionParsnip1> cjae: IDE == integrated Drive Electronics
[09:18] <r3dux> AZBigK, there's an app that does exactly that - stores the config of ubuntu.... I can't think of the name of it though!!! =/ Lemme google...
[09:18] <Kartagis> KyleGP, Settings > Preferences > Alerts
[09:18] <sd32> is  there a text to speech application for gnome or do i have to use kttsd?
[09:18] <ActionParsnip1> cjae: I think you mean PATA
[09:18] <cjae> ActionParsnip1: I meant to say it another way you know what I mean though
[09:19] <KyleGP> I dont have that option
[09:19] <KyleGP> wait
[09:19] <r3dux> AZBigK, this isn't the app - but same result >>> http://www.ubuntu-unleashed.com/2008/04/howto-restore-all-installed-packages-in.html
[09:19] <KyleGP> found it lolol
[09:19] <xtor_> I cannt seem to play audio in my quictime movies, any suggestions?
[09:20] <dronix> is it only on quictime?
[09:20] <AZBigK> will a customized kernel for specific laptop make it boot and run faster?
[09:20] <KyleGP> ah but I mean how do I make it highlight your name
[09:20] <KyleGP> like
[09:20] <KyleGP> every reply i get from you guys has my name in front, then your reply
[09:20] <ActionParsnip2> cjae: i do, but I always pick people up when they say IDE
[09:20] <KyleGP> and its in red
[09:20] <cjae> ActionParsnip1: yes I know about the confusing IDE/PATA/SATA/ATAPI naming convention and rules
[09:20] <Seper> Kartagis: Run level 0 I believe. Trying to confirm
[09:20] <r3dux> AZBigK, the app is called APTonCD
[09:20] <xtor_> only on quicktime? Yes--everything else plays and sounds perfect, dronix
[09:21] <Kartagis> KyleGP, check the appropriate boxes
[09:21] <cjae> ActionParsnip tired
[09:21] <dronix> xtor_: let me try myself and see if I have any trouble before I tell u
[09:21] <Athenon> looks like bind works fine, but i have a little error in syslog: http://pastebin.com/m20479eb4
[09:21] <linnuxxy> this will solve it sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so
[09:21] <linnuxxy> bye
[09:22] <KyleGP> these boxes dont answer the question? Are you personal messaging me?
[09:22] <dronix> xtor_: what version r u using?
[09:22] <cjae> ActionParsnip I think I must have just blocked the idea of the firmware being read because it USB, don't ask me why
[09:22] <Seper> Kartagis: You want to know for poweroff only, and not reboot?
[09:23] <Kartagis> Seper, both
[09:23] <xtor_> I have the latest VLC and Real Player(helix) 11
[09:23] <dronix> xtor_: whats you ubuntu version?
[09:23] <ActionParsnip2> xtor_: tried mplayer?
[09:23] <Seper> Kartagis: Your run levels are specified in /etc/rc*
[09:23] <cjae> why is it so hard for a gui front end to be made for mplayer?
[09:23] <xtor_> mplayer aka totem? Yeah
[09:24] <xtor_> tried real player, vlc, mplayer...they all FAIL
[09:24] <beli> xtor_: its not a player issue...
[09:24] <xtor_> Maybe I should download quicktime from apple
[09:24] <Kartagis> Seper, I know, but I don't know what is poweroff and reboot
[09:24] <celeritas> it's pretty common when it's a borked file
[09:24] <dronix> xtor_: try this: sudo apt-get install w32codecs
[09:24] <Seper> Kartagis: The folders that have lots of links that start with K are shutdown folders
[09:24] <xtor_> Real player told me that it could not run it
[09:24] <beli> xtor_: its a codec issue...
[09:24] <xtor_> dronix, quicktime is apple not ms
[09:24] <Seper> Kartagis: On a normal system, I believe they are 0 and 6
[09:24] <beli> xtor_: but qt is native for w32
[09:25] <xtor_> of course its a codec issue..Im just shocked vlc doesnt have the codects
[09:25] <dronix> xtor_: doesn't matter
[09:25] <ActionParsnip2> xtor_: get the medibuntu repo and install w32codecs or w64codecs
[09:25] <Seper> Kartagis: K is for Kill, S is for Start
[09:25] <spaarkplug> hi,.. can somebody spare one minute with me. I have a question. Thanks SO much. I'm from San Diego,CA. thanks.
[09:26] <ActionParsnip2> !ask | spaarkplug
[09:26] <jigp> ziroday : can I use the os that I've installed in virtualbox ose?
[09:26] <spaarkplug> oh,.. ok. kewl.
[09:26] <Seper> Kartagis: This info used to be kept in /etc/inittab, but I think Ubuntu uses upstart now. I'm unfamiliar with how upstart operates. :\
[09:26] <plouffe> is there a command to directly find out the location of an executable for a given command name? (without searching directories)
[09:26] <gooody> need help with audio
[09:26] <ActionParsnip2> plouffe: which <command>. E.g.  which gedit
[09:26] <dronix> goody: whats up?
[09:26] <ActionParsnip2> gooody: can you be specific
[09:27] <plouffe> thanks ActionParsnip
[09:27] <spaarkplug> Well,.. this is the question. How can i kill network manager from starting each time? I want to setup a DHCP3 server on my machine?
[09:27] <celeritas> Seper: Kartagis: upstart is pretty much dropin replacement for SysV init
[09:27] <ActionParsnip2> haha my home pc got bored
[09:27] <Seper> Kartagis: rc1, should be single user mode system
[09:27] <gooody> audio works after a couple of days after installation but now i don't have any audio.
[09:27] <b1n42y> ActionParsnip2, lol
[09:27] <ActionParsnip2> !bum | spaarkplug
[09:28] <ActionParsnip2> spaarkplug: i persnally uninstall it. i hate it
[09:28] <Kartagis> damn! update-rc.d umountsmb adds S?? too, which I don't need
[09:28] <Kartagis> can I just delete them
[09:28] <Kartagis> ?
[09:28] <dronix> goody: is that including system audio?
[09:28] <mahin> test
[09:28] <r3dux> Kartagis, I'm watching this w/ interest... hope you sort it :)
[09:28] <celeritas> Kartagis: update-rc.d
[09:29] <spaarkplug> thats what i was about to do? but I thought I may need the package, and didnt want to uninstall it,.. but i cant find in in /etc/init.d ,.. I dont know where ubuntu has kept the services.
[09:29] <gooody> dronix: yup. can't hear any audio during login.
[09:29] <mahin> i'm new in this platform
[09:29] <Kartagis> r3dux, can I just delete S?? ?
[09:29] <Seper> Kartagis: Yeah, but generally you should use the tool celeritas said
[09:29] <dronix> goody: seems like your audio driver got messed up in the update
[09:29] <spaarkplug> anyways... thanks ActionParsnip2
[09:29] <ActionParsnip2> mahin: everyone is at some point
[09:30] <Kartagis> Seper, it added the S?? too, which I don't need
[09:30] <celeritas> update-rc.d apache2 remove, for instance
[09:30] <dronix> goody: what is your system info?
[09:30] <gooody> ﻿dronix: using ubuntu hardy.
[09:31] <celeritas> Kartagis: the rcS?
[09:31] <mahin> ubunto is easy
[09:31] <dronix> gooody: hardware
[09:31] <jigp> ziroday : /home/jigp/ I cannot see folders like ./ thing
[09:31] <Kartagis> celeritas, yes
[09:32] <Kartagis> brb, to try it
[09:32] <celeritas> Kartagis: fairly sure that's pretty important, documentation in Debian at least says it calls /etc/rcS.d stuffs
[09:32] <dronix> gooody: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=789578
[09:33] <Seper> celeritas: I guess he was in a hurry :)
[09:33] <celeritas> Seper: huh?
[09:33] <Seper> celeritas: He left
[09:33] <gooody> ﻿dronix: thanks. i'll this 1.
[09:34] <celeritas> Seper: dodged off, hope he backed that up
[09:34] <r3dux> Anyone had much luck w/ 3D accel in Virtualbox (64 bit linux host, 64 bit Windows 7 beta guest)?
[09:34] <r3dux> I've got sound working after installing some realtek drivers in the vm... but accel is a no-go...
[09:34] <celeritas> r3dux: i'm not aware that the 3d accel supports DirectX
[09:35] <Seper> celeritas: eh, if he knows what runlevels are, I figure he's probably ahead of the curve. But yeah, let's hope i'm right. :)
[09:35] <r3dux> It has a DX <--> OGL translation layer in VirtualBox 2.1.4, but I think it's a bit fussy
[09:35] <sixnonep> Need to know how to become root: etc/privoxy/config
[09:36] <r3dux> OR ---- I'm wrong, and it only has a GL layer... Hmm... so aero might not work but an OGL app might? Will have to look into it.
[09:36] <ActionParsnip2> !root | sixnonep
[09:36] <xtor_> video/X-RN-QT-RAWAU
[09:36] <xtor_> audio/X-RN-QT-RAWAU
[09:36] <celeritas> r3dux: have you ever tested glxinfo on a Linux vm?
[09:36] <xtor_> These are what real player tells me are required
[09:36] <ActionParsnip2> sixnonep: you can run: sudo -i   to use interactive sudo
[09:36] <r3dux> celeritas, I've only installed windows as a guest OS, so no...
[09:37] <Wicked0ne> !bluetooth
[09:37] <Kartagis> r3dux, no luck
[09:37] <das__> joni
[09:37] <r3dux> Kart - Dang =/
[09:37] <celeritas> r3dux: well make sure the opengl acceleration is working in a Linux VM first, if not then it's probably a VirtualBox bug
[09:37] <sixnonep> Need to know how to become root: etc/privoxy/config I know the bloody PW.
[09:37] <Seper> sixnonep: sudo su
[09:37] <Seper> sixnonep: sudo su -
[09:37] <sixnonep> yes
[09:37] <spaarkplug> hi all,... how do i join a new network? I only know the name of the irc network and the channel. I want to join from the command line.
[09:37] <sixnonep> I realise this
[09:37] <ActionParsnip2> sixnonep: there is no password and the root account is disabled
[09:37] <xtor_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=494186  <--- Unresolved quicktime issue :(
[09:37] <Kartagis> r3dux, http://pastebin.com/f1c6ffdf8 is the script
[09:38] <r3dux> Kart - what exactly are you connecting to? Could be setup on samba side not linux side?? I'd still try each one separately to see if ONE of them is dodgy..
[09:38] <ActionParsnip2> sixnonep: its not needed as you can do ANYTHING root can do with sudo / gksudo
[09:38] <edmondscommerce> hi all - anyone know an easy way to get my current ram clock speed without opening up the case or powering down and checking the bios ?
[09:38] <spaarkplug> HELP !!how do i join a new network? I only know the name of the irc network and the channel. I want to join from the command line.
[09:38] <Seper> sixnonep: sudo nano etc/privoxy/config
[09:39] <celeritas> ActionParsnip2: besides recover if sudoers gets corrupted :P
[09:39] <Kartagis> sorry
[09:39] <spaarkplug> edmondscommerce : cat /proc/cpuinfo
[09:39] <ActionParsnip2> edmondscommerce: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-333204.html
[09:39] <Seper> sixnonep: Joining another network is client dependent.
[09:39] <ActionParsnip2> celeritas: you can boot to root recovery console for that
[09:39] <Kartagis> r3dux, I get CIFS: VFS: server not responding
[09:40] <Seper> sixnonep: /join #channel  will allow you to join another channel
[09:40] <spaarkplug> edmondscommerce: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[09:40] <ActionParsnip2> sixnonep: if you want to edit a file that is not your username's you can use: gksudo gedit /file/to/edit
[09:40] <sigma_za> what is the default pdf reader in ubuntu called?
[09:40] <r3dux> Kartagis, have you tried NOT unmounting the samba shares?
[09:40] <celeritas> ActionParsnip2: true
[09:40] <ActionParsnip2> sixnonep: or sudo nano /file/to/edit
[09:40] <r3dux> sigma_za, "document reader"
[09:41] <spaarkplug> ActionParsnip2: HELP !!how do i join a new network?  I am new to irc xchat client. I only know the name of the irc network and the channel. I want to join from the command line.
[09:41] <ActionParsnip2> !pdf | sigma_za
[09:41] <Kartagis> r3dux, yes, that's why I am trying to
[09:41] <r3dux> sigma_za, "document VIEWER" -- sorry
[09:41] <edmondscommerce> ActionParsnip2: thanks - FYI anyone else the command is sudo lshw :-)
[09:41] <ActionParsnip2> spaarkplug: not sure, try asking the room
[09:41] <r3dux> (evince)
[09:41] <ActionParsnip2> edmondscommerce: nice :D
[09:42] <r3dux> sigma_za, evince =) [christ! Got there in the end..]
[09:42] <spaarkplug> HELP ANYBODY !!how do i join a new network?  I am new to irc xchat client. I only know the name of the irc network and the channel. I want to join from the command line.
[09:42] <r3dux> spaarkplug,  "/join #<name of room>
[09:43] <sigma_za> ok thanks and does anyone know of a oss program i can use to attach attachments to a pdf file?
[09:43] <spaarkplug> r3dux: thanks so much.
[09:43] <r3dux> spaarkplug, as there is only the ubuntu chan on ubuntu irc you'll need to connect to another network in xchat or wtevr you're using first.
[09:43] <bazhang> spaarkplug, you dont join from the command line; use an irc client
[09:43] <r3dux> XChat | Network List...
[09:44] <spaarkplug> bazhang: got it. thanks.
[09:44] <celeritas> sigma_za: you mean, you want a PDF editor?
[09:44] <ActionParsnip2> !info pdfedit
[09:45] <AdvoWork> hi there, running ubuntu, plugged a monitor in yesterday, it picked up the resolution fine, but today when ive turned it on, its basically not picked up the monitor and only listing 2 resoltions. any ideas please?
[09:45] <sigma_za> no i have a pdf file created via openoffice and need to attach a few files to it - will pdfedit do that?
[09:45] <alap> hi, i am using hardy 8.10 on my laptop and getting error while compiling kernel. the error is E:unable to find source package for linux-ubuntu-module-2.6.27-11-generic. can any one tell me how and from where to download this package. i am referring instructions given at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/kernel/compile
[09:45] <ActionParsnip2> AdvoWork: what video card? lspci | grep -i vga
[09:46] <celeritas> sigma_za: pdf file created via openoffice? why not just add what you want to the ODF?
[09:46] <ActionParsnip2> sigma_za: try it is all i can say
[09:46] <sigma_za> its a scanned image of my transcripts - the pdf converter does not handle those images well
[09:46] <ActionParsnip2> alap: sudo apt-get update  first
[09:47] <spaarkplug> Does anybody know how to find IP address of somebody on yahoo messenger?
[09:47] <ActionParsnip2> spaarkplug: pm me
[09:47] <balrog__> im sshed into a machine and im forwarding X.  how do i launch the program in System > Administration > Hardware Drivers?
[09:48] <celeritas> spaarkplug: initialize a direct connection like video or voice and listen with ngrep?
[09:48] <balrog__> nm
[09:49] <celeritas> How can I set xdmcp to only listen to connections on specific IPs? Notably, I want to use my own computer from computer lab.
[09:50] <celeritas> sigma_za: btw, what do you want to attach? by "attach", do you mean "inline"?
[09:50] <longsleep> anyone knows why uuidd should ever listen on port 80? uuidd   14768  libuuid    4u  IPv4 37651424       TCP localhost:www (LISTEN) ?
[09:50] <sigma_za> celeritas: the thing is i attached the files with a freeware program in windows - adobe reader see's them but okular does not - by attach I mean attach the file like you would attach a file to a email
[09:51] <celeritas> sigma_za: were you able to get the attached stuff? I see no reason to attach a file to a PDF
[09:51] <vadi01_> anyone who has installed ubuntu on a samsung laptop?
[09:52] <vadi01_> having problems with the shortcut keys
[09:52] <dronix> who is samsung?
[09:52] <vadi01_> samsung laptop r560
[09:52] <sigma_za> celeritas: yeah but only adobe acrobat reader can see and open them. okular supports embedded files but does not see them
[09:53] <dronix> vadi01_:64bit?
[09:53] <tifrugonelpc> rc.abbaddon.net
[09:53] <sigma_za> celeritas: i can't include the images in the pdf as the resolution will make them unreadable on some screens
[09:53] <vadi01_> dronix: 32
[09:54] <vadi01_> 32
[09:54] <celeritas> sigma_za: so you want the raw image files in (unspecified format)
[09:54] <dronix> vadi01_: whats your problem?
[09:54] <vadi01_> 2 problems
[09:54] <celeritas> sigma_za: if you can't include the images in the PDF, you can't really use PDF
[09:54] <sigma_za> celeritas: nope they are jpegs
[09:54] <vadi01_> 1. the shortcut key for adjusting brightness not working
[09:55] <vadi01_> 2. webcam not working
[09:55] <sigma_za> celeritas: i dont think you understand what I am trying to do
[09:55] <vadi01_> webcan is inbuilt
[09:55] <celeritas> sigma_za: you have a bunch of images. you're trying to add them to a PDF
[09:56] <celeritas> sigma_za: right?
[09:56] <vadi01_> any idea?
[09:56] <sinan> anyone knows a tool i could use to cause a delay on packets going through the loopback adapter?
[09:56] <ActionParsnip2> vadi01_: troubleshoot one at a time starting with most pressing
[09:57] <ActionParsnip2> !webcam | vadi01_
[09:57] <sigma_za> celeritas: yeah - i can add them in the actual pdf but thats going to mess up the resolution, thats why i want them as attachments to the pdf rather
[09:57] <dronix> vadi01_: sorry, I have no idea
[09:57] <Seper> vadi01_: I have a different cam than you, but it has no driver to make it work under Linux.
[09:58] <celeritas> sigma_za: why not just archive the pdf with the images?
[09:59] <sigma_za> celeritas: you mean like put them all into a zip file?
[09:59] <celeritas> sigma_za: or are you giving the paperwork to someone who has no conception of "directory" or "archive"
[09:59] <celeritas> sigma_za: yes
[10:00] <sigma_za> celeritas: yes thats a concern as well, hr people here are really thick
[10:00] <Stylee> I got a GA-EX58-UD4P mother board, which has hardware raid, I configure it in BIOS and RAID BIOS, but when I try to install ubuntu, it see it as 2 scsi HDDs... any pointers?
[10:00] <celeritas> sigma_za: so it absolutely has to be PDF?
[10:01] <celeritas> sigma_za: and a single file?
[10:01] <ActionParsnip2> !raid | Stylee
[10:01] <rabber> salve a tutti qualcuno mi potrebbe aiutare con l'installazione di un programma dandomi qualche dtritta?
[10:01] <Kartagis> damn! I still have the problem
[10:02] <Kartagis> !it | rabber
[10:02] <sigma_za> well i guess if acrobat see's the attachment it should be fine as most recepients will be using it - i prefer a pdf because it can't be changed that easily and it retains layouts etc (something that usually gets messed up on normal documents)
[10:02] <Stylee> ActionParsnip2: thanks
[10:02] <ActionParsnip2> Stylee: it doesnt have hardware raid
[10:02] <ActionParsnip2> Stylee: it uses fakeraid
[10:02] <Psuedo> G'Day
[10:02] <Psuedo> I'm trying to batch install 84 unique packages. So I ran the command: sudo dpkg -i *.deb whilst I was in the directory which contained the packages. However, most of them didn't install correctly, because of dependencie problems. How do I install the dependencies in batch, along with the packages?
[10:03] <Stylee> ActionParsnip2: you mean my MB?
[10:03] <celeritas> sigma_za: if it has to be viewed by acrobat, well then it has to be PDF. so you are saying that PDF has attachments? Besides just embedded images?
[10:04] <ActionParsnip2> Stylee: yes, the SATA controllers can do rid type abilities (even though raid0 isnt raid) but the raid will need to be configured in the OS
[10:04] <ActionParsnip2> Stylee: ubuntu can set this up
[10:05] <ActionParsnip2> rid == raid*
[10:05] <Seper> Psuedo: 1 sec
[10:05] <Stylee> ActionParsnip2: I see, thank you
[10:06] <ActionParsnip2> Stylee: if you had true raid you would boot to the raid bios and create a new array
[10:06] <Stylee> ActionParsnip2: so I did
[10:06] <ActionParsnip2> Stylee: and linux would then only see 1 drive but the rest is handled by a controller rather than some garbage that motherboard manufactures bodge on
[10:07] <Phil_Ewert> Was würdet ihr empfehlen ? Thunderbird oder Evolution ?
[10:07] <ActionParsnip2> !de | Phil_Ewert
[10:07] <Phil_Ewert> sorry!
[10:08] <WhoCouldIbe> hi how do i remove the ubuntu option from the dual boot menu ? (I have tried Msconfig but its not there!)
[10:08] <Psuedo> Seper: Okay!
[10:08] <Stylee> ActionParsnip2: so if linux doesn't recognize it as one drive, is a fake?
[10:08] <Geek`N`Proud> WhoCouldIbe, which menu do you get?
[10:08] <Geek`N`Proud> grub one or Windows one?
[10:09] <WhoCouldIbe> the windows one
[10:09] <Geek`N`Proud> For Windows, edit boot.ini
[10:09] <Geek`N`Proud> run notepad as an administrator
[10:09] <Geek`N`Proud> then File -> Open
[10:09] <ActionParsnip2> Stylee: yep, you need to configure the raid in the live environment then install to that
[10:09] <Geek`N`Proud> then put in the filename box C:\boot.ini
[10:09] <Geek`N`Proud> you should be able to remove it from that file
[10:09] <Geek`N`Proud> ^^
[10:10] <ActionParsnip2> Geek`N`Proud: you will need: attrib -r -a -s -h C:\boot.ini
[10:10] <ActionParsnip2> Geek`N`Proud: its a heavily guarded file
[10:10] <Stylee> ActionParsnip2: thank you :)
[10:10] <alap> ActionParsnip2, i did that and after that i am following the instructions i was getting error E:couldn't find package linux-kernek-devel so i asked here and got reply as for 8.10 you can proceed with next instruction but now as a result i am facing this problem
[10:10] <balrog__> how would i go about getting the vga out on my thinkpad r60 to be recognized by ubuntu?
[10:10] <cjae> why is vlc suck now
[10:10] <naymyowin> hey
[10:11] <naymyowin> how can i use my modem on toshiba L300
[10:11] <naymyowin> ?
[10:11] <naymyowin> ?
[10:11] <ActionParsnip2> !kernal | alap
[10:11] <FloodBot3> naymyowin: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:11] <naymyowin> i did
[10:11] <naymyowin> bot u r bot
[10:11] <spaarkplug> ubottu: Its spelled 'kernel'
[10:11] <ActionParsnip2> naymyowin: what line in lspci identifys the modem?
[10:11] <cjae> when I open vlc (tv out nvidia) the controls for full screen are on my monitor
[10:11] <ActionParsnip2> bah
[10:11] <ActionParsnip2> !kernel
[10:11] <naymyowin> ActionParsnip2: i told u already
[10:12] <Seper> Psuedo: for i in *; do apt-get install ${test%.deb}; done
[10:12] <Seper> Psuedo: for i in *; do sudo apt-get install ${test%.deb} -y; done
[10:12] <naymyowin> ActionParsnip2:http://paste.ubuntu.com/127109/
[10:12] <Seper> Psuedo: for i in *; do sudo apt-get install ${i%.deb} -y; done
[10:12] <Seper> Psuedo: That should do it.
[10:13] <Psuedo> Seper: Confused...
[10:13] <Seper> Psuedo: The last one
[10:13] <Psuedo> I have all my files in \home\Debian_Packages
[10:14] <ActionParsnip2> naymyowin: is it a usb modem?
[10:14] <Seper> Psuedo: I modified it on the fly in the channel, sorry.
[10:14] <naymyowin> ActionParsnip2: it is builtin
[10:15] <Seper> Psuedo: Running that in your directory should do the trick.
[10:15] <naymyowin> ActionParsnip2 : but i dont know if it is connected with USB internally or not
[10:15] <vadi01_> have a project for network admins
[10:15] <Psuedo> ok, I'll give it a go, thanks
[10:15] <vadi01_> en.traffpro.ru
[10:15] <spaarkplug> naymyowin: Is your wifi card connected to your usb ports? I do not see a PCI wifi card on your lspci output ??
[10:15] <ActionParsnip2> naymyowin: does lsusb show it up?
[10:15] <vadi01_> would love beta testers
[10:16] <Psuedo> vadi01_: Explain more
[10:16] <WhoCouldIbe> Geek'N'Proud - Its not working - Says that my computer doesnt have a boot.ini ?!?
[10:16] <spaarkplug> naymyowin: Do lspci -v and then paste.
[10:16] <naymyowin> ActionParsnip2: i dont know brother
[10:16] <ActionParsnip2> spaarkplug: its a modem we're after
[10:16] <naymyowin> ActionParsnip2 : all are builtin
[10:16] <ActionParsnip2> naymyowin: ok can you pastebin the output of lsusb too
[10:16] <naymyowin> ok
[10:16] <spaarkplug> naymyowin: Are you connected to modem connected to your latop via ethernet
[10:16] <Phil_Ewert> Hello, what would you recommend? Thunderbird or Evolution ?
[10:17] <vadi01_> http://en.traffpro.ru/
[10:17] <vadi01_> Pseuso: its actually a traffic control program
[10:17] <Psuedo> ah
[10:17] <naymyowin> ActionParsnip2: http://paste.ubuntu.com/127134/
[10:17] <Psuedo> Seper: Syntax error with done
[10:18] <ActionParsnip2> Phil_Ewert: i'd say thunderbird but i would also try both, see if there are features in either which you need more
[10:18] <Psuedo> Took out done, dpkg interrupted error
[10:18] <Seper> Psuedo: What exactly does it say?
[10:18] <naymyowin> ActionParsnip2: how do u think i should do?
[10:19] <ActionParsnip2> naymyowin: ok are you talking about a dialup modem or a wireless device?
[10:19] <vadi01_> Pseuso: included with a inbuilt firewall using iptables
[10:19] <Phil_Ewert> ActionParsnip2 : thx. I guess Thunderbird is better for compatibility
[10:19] <ActionParsnip2> Phil_Ewert: both are RFC compliant
[10:19] <Phil_Ewert> yeah, I meant cross system availibility
[10:19] <ActionParsnip2> Phil_Ewert: so compatibility is not a factor, both use the same email protocols
[10:20] <spaarkplug> naymyowin: I dont see a usb modem attached to your laptops usb port.
[10:20] <Phil_Ewert> yaeh thx a lot!
[10:20] <alap> ActionParsnip2, yes its linux-kernel-devel
[10:20] <ActionParsnip2> Phil_Ewert: well its running in linux, why does the fact that it runs in windows matter?
[10:20] <Seper> Psuedo: Copy and paste it to the console.
[10:20] <Seper> Psuedo: for i in *; do sudo apt-get install ${i%.deb} -y; done
[10:21] <ActionParsnip2> Seper: why not just: sudo apt-get install *.deb
[10:21] <Psuedo> http://nopaste.com/p/amk6we208
[10:21] <Psuedo> Seper: http://nopaste.com/p/amk6we208
[10:21] <aaron> hey guys this is my first day on ubuntu anyone have time to help?
[10:21] <Phil_Ewert> ActionParsnip2 : because I have Parents and old people in my proximity. Doesn't Th. run on Mac as well ?
[10:21] <Myrtti> aaron: ask
[10:21] <spaarkplug> aaron: whats up!! we all are.
[10:21] <ActionParsnip2> Phil_Ewert: well yes but if they've never used a mail client then you can use any
[10:21] <blip-> abanto
[10:22] <ActionParsnip2> Phil_Ewert: if they have used thunderbird and like it then that is the clear choice
[10:22] <Roxanne> Hello, I currently have a system problem that I think was caused by Kubuntu pulling files from the wrong source when I changed the sources.list file to hack the network upgrade from Feisty to Gutsy to work
[10:22] <Psuedo> ActionParsnip2: Okay, I'll give that a go
[10:22] <Seper> ActionParsnip2: Because the package names that apt-get uses do not end with .deb
[10:22] <Roxanne> and now I can't login so I downloaded the alternate CD
[10:22] <ActionParsnip2> Seper: oops
[10:22] <ActionParsnip2> Seper: sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[10:22] <Roxanne> and it wont let me upgrade the system so that system integrity can be restored
[10:22] <ActionParsnip2> Psuedo: see above
[10:22] <aaron> whats a good way to make windows programs work on here? or is it even possible?
[10:22] <Roxanne> is there any way to work around this and upgrade my system?
[10:22] <Seper> ActionParsnip2: He needs a way to auto get deps too
[10:22] <ActionParsnip2> !wine | aaron
[10:23] <ActionParsnip2> Seper: when it fails run: sudo apt-get -f install and deps will be installed
[10:23] <Seper> Psuedo: Your link is bad
[10:23] <spaarkplug> aaron: which windows program are you trying to run in ubuntu ? Most dont as you know microsoft is proprietary,
[10:23] <ActionParsnip2> Seper: and then the apps he dpkg'd
[10:23] <ActionParsnip2> aaron: not ALL apps run
[10:23] <ActionParsnip2> !appdb | aaron
[10:23] <Roxanne> I have the alternate CD in now but there's no option to upgrade and the Alt-F2 command isn't prompting a text box to enter kdesudo "sh /cdrom/cdromupgrade/"
[10:23] <Seper> ActionParsnip2: perhaps
[10:24] <Psuedo> Seper: Really?
[10:24] <Roxanne> and when I used other boot options
[10:24] <ActionParsnip2> Roxanne: replace /cdrom/ with wherever the cd is mounted to
[10:24] <aaron> right now im just trying to get wow to run but im trying to get away from windows
[10:24] <Seper> Psuedo: Try the link yourself
[10:24] <ActionParsnip2> aaron: WoW runs awesome in wine
[10:24] <Roxanne> bash shows that there is a Kernel Panic - not synching error
[10:24] <Roxanne> syncing*
[10:24] <tony403> anyone know how to make a shortcut to the desktop from the gnome menu?
[10:25] <ActionParsnip2> Roxanne: try: sh /media/cdrom0/cdromupgrade
[10:25] <aaron> i installed wine but cant get anything to work
[10:25] <ActionParsnip2> aaron: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WorldofWarcraft
[10:25] <rasgan> hello
[10:25] <ActionParsnip2> aaron: google is your friend
[10:25] <Psuedo> Here is my dpkg --configure -a output: http://nopaste.com/p/a14OVIAlb
[10:25] <ActionParsnip2> aaron: make sure you get wine from the wine repos
[10:25] <rasgan> have anyone on this channel tv card pinnacle 7010ix?
[10:26] <corinth> I need a c# compiler. What's in the repos?
[10:26] <ActionParsnip2> !anyone | rasgan
[10:26] <rasgan> please PM me - i need help
[10:26] <aaron> repos?
[10:26] <corinth> 8.10
[10:26] <ActionParsnip2> !repo | aaron
[10:26] <spaarkplug> aaron: just do sudo apt-get install wine
[10:26] <ActionParsnip2> aaron: http://www.winehq.org/download/deb
[10:26] <ActionParsnip2> spaarkplug: theres a later version on winehq's own repo
[10:26] <aaron> ok just did that
[10:27] <spaarkplug> aaron: edit your /etc/apt/sources.list file and add " http://www.winehq.org/download/deb <distribution name > to the bottom in that case.
[10:27] <ActionParsnip2> aaron: the community docs will sow you how to install WoW
[10:27] <spaarkplug> yup.
[10:28] <endial> I heard that WoW will run slow if you use Wine is that true?
[10:28] <jigp> hello I installed sun xVM VirtualBox and installed there xp. how to enable the usb ?
[10:28] <aaron> ok thx ill try it
[10:29] <jigp> ActionParsnip2: the intallation was successful. I enable usb but it cannot be detect
[10:29] <ActionParsnip2> aaron: fyi, WoW gets one of the highest rankings on the appdb
[10:29] <ikonia> jigp: virtual box release do not all support USB
[10:29] <naymyowin> ActionParsnip2:
[10:29] <ActionParsnip2> jigp: what cant be detected?
[10:29] <naymyowin> ActionParsnip2: hey
[10:29] <ikonia> jigp: there are different versions, one of them does not have usb support
[10:29] <naymyowin> ActionParsnip2 : what i m supposed to do?
[10:30] <ActionParsnip2> naymyowin: i asked you a question, you never replied
[10:30] <platius> jigp; https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox#USB  you might look here
[10:30] <jigp> ikonia ActionParsnip2 platius : I downloaded it here http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/2.1.4/virtualbox-2.1_2.1.4-42893_Ubuntu_hardy_i386.deb ...
[10:31] <ActionParsnip2> jigp: you might need more than that if there are dependancies
[10:32] <ActionParsnip2> jigp: http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2008/12/18/install-virtualbox-21-in-ubuntu-810/
[10:32] <jigp> ActionParsnip2:  im using 8.04 gnome
[10:32] <ActionParsnip2> jigp: thats fine, the repo has a hardy too
[10:33] <jigp> sorry got dc
[10:33] <jigp> what is wrong with pidgin lols
[10:34] <Seper> Psuedo: Get it resolved?
[10:34] <ActionParsnip2> jigp: the repo has a hardy folder too so just change intrepid to hardy in your sources.list and it will install the same
[10:35] <jigp> ActionParsnip2 : like this wget -q http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian/sun_vbox.asc -O- | sudo apt-key add -
[10:36] <ActionParsnip2> jigp: that will add the key to your system to authenticate the packages
[10:37] <jigp> ActionParsnip2 : so this is the first step right?
[10:37] <ActionParsnip2> jigp: you also need to gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and add the repository to the bottom of the list and press enter at the end of the line
[10:37] <jigp> ok ill type that. whew this is weird command.im not a programmer and im afraid
[10:38] <jigp> ActionParsnip2 : I cannot type in terminal. the terminal looks gray
[10:39] <jigp> gray color or is this black ?
[10:39] <jigp> I cannot type anything
[10:39] <endial> anyone know the dll files needed to run wow on wine by chance?
[10:39] <jigp> even cntrl + alt T
[10:39] <Acedip> anyone familiar with playing counter strike on ubuntu
[10:40] <Acedip> ??
[10:41] <jigp> W: GPG error: http://download.virtualbox.org intrepid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY DCF9F87B6DFBCBAE
[10:41] <ikonia> jigp: contact that repo owner
[10:41] <ikonia> jigp: get the public key, that's not an ubuntu repo
[10:41] <jigp> I don't know the owner
[10:41] <ActionParsnip2> jigp: then change the colouring of the terminal
[10:41] <ActionParsnip2> jigp: or install tilda
[10:42] <balrog__> how do i stop X from starting?  im trying to turn a desktop install into a server install.
[10:42] <ikonia> jigp: I'm sure there will be details on teh virtualbox website on how to use their repos
[10:42] <ikonia> balrog__: remove the gdm init script, or disable it with update-rc.d
[10:42] <jigp> I just want to use my PLDT WEROAM wireless internet in xp inside ubuntu because ubuntu does not recognize the pldt weroam wireless internet
[10:42] <Acedip> anyone familiar with playing counter strike on ubuntu ??
[10:42] <ikonia> Acedip: why don't you just ask the question
[10:42] <arturo_on_rails> Hi guys.  I'm trying to update an old ubuntu box.  It's running feisty apparently, but do-release-upgrade fails miserably (lots of 404s on fetching)...
[10:43] <jigp> pldt weroam is for xp / mac
[10:43] <Roxy> In the Alternate Kubuntu CD if I select the Install in text mode will the installation affect my entire harddrive and all of my personal files or will it only overwrite the system files it needs to replace for the installation?
[10:43] <ikonia> !upgrade > arturo_on_rails
[10:43] <ikonia> arturo_on_rails: you have to change the repo destination for 7.04 upgrades
[10:44] <balrog__> ikonia: so i would then start X by running startx on the tty i wish to use?
[10:44] <ikonia> balrog__: or re-enable gdm
[10:45] <vadi01_> wine?
[10:45] <ikonia> vadi01_: yes ?
[10:45] <Roxy> In the Alternate Kubuntu CD if I select the Install in text mode will the installation affect my entire harddrive and all of my personal files or will it only overwrite the system files it needs to replace for the installation? Does it format the drive?
[10:45] <balrog__> ikonia: how would i disable gdm in the first place?  would i just `sudo update-rc.d remove gdm`?
[10:45] <vadi01_> counter strike
[10:45] <ikonia> Roxy: there is a partition section of the install where you choose what file systems to work
[10:45] <ActionParsnip2> Roxy: only the programs will be upgraded, your home folder will be untouched
[10:45] <vadi01_> am also interested. anything on google?
[10:46] <ikonia> vadi01_: you're just saying random words - do you want to ask a question
[10:46] <Roxy> Okay
[10:46] <ActionParsnip2> Roxy: it doesnot format the drive unless you tell it to
[10:46] <ikonia> balrog__: check the synatax on update-rc.d
[10:46] <ActionParsnip2> Roxy: run your backup so your data is up to date then it doesnt matter
[10:46] <Roxy> Thank You
[10:48] <sixnonep> to edit: /etc/privoxy/config do I simply gksudo /etc/privoxy/config ?
[10:48] <Roxy> So I want to use the Guided - resize SCSI partition #1 and use freed space or use entire disk
[10:48] <ActionParsnip2> sixnonep: gksudo gedit /etc/privoxy/config
[10:48] <ikonia> Roxy: if thats what you want, go for it
[10:49] <ActionParsnip2> sixnonep: gksudo to run graphical app as root, gedit is the app to run, /etc/privoxy/config is the file to open
[10:49] <Roxy> I'm looking for the option to overwrite my current Kubuntu distro but leave the home folder untouched
[10:49] <ActionParsnip2> Roxy: i thought you were upgrading your current install?
[10:49] <Dabbill> I am haveing problems with my remote desktop. Some times it will connect and some times it wont. Right now I can access my router, webpage, and SSH but remote desktop wont connect
[10:49] <ActionParsnip2> Roxy: is home part of the / partition or is it on its own partition?
[10:49] <Roxy> I am but there isn't an upgrade option
[10:50] <Roxy> it's part of the partition
[10:50] <sixnonep> ActionParsnip2 - ok, so I'm looking at permissions to edit /etc/privoxy/config
[10:50] <ikonia> Roxy: have you read the upgrade instructions ?
[10:50] <ikonia> !upgrade > Roxy
[10:50] <Roxy> I have
[10:50] <ikonia> Roxy: ok - so I assume you've mounted the ISO rather than booting from it ?
[10:50] <ActionParsnip2> sixnonep: if you run the command i gave you will be able to edit and save the /etc/privoxy/config file
[10:50] <ikonia> Roxy: as that's what the instructions tell you do to
[10:50] <sixnonep> ok
[10:50] <ActionParsnip2> Roxy: sounds like you have the desktop cd, not the alternative
[10:51] <ActionParsnip2> Roxy: you need to backup your data and reinstall as you have not put /home on a seperate partition (this should be the default option in my opinion but oh well)
[10:51] <Roxy> I loaded up the Alternate CD but there was no upgrade option so I tried Alt-F2 but it doesn't prompt a textbox to input kdesudo "sh /cdrom/cdromupgrade" and then I tried kdesudo "sh /media/cdrom0/cdromupgrade" both resulted in kernel panic errors
[10:52] <dirtbag> what else is out there for desktop environments besides gnome, xfce, and kde?
[10:52] <Roxy> I used Other options on the splash screen
[10:52] <vadi01_> is there any good open source language translator for ubuntu]
[10:52] <vadi01_> would like to translate text from english to russia
[10:52] <vadi01_> russian
[10:52] <ikonia> Roxy: show me the instructions you're following
[10:52] <Dabbill> I am haveing problems with my remote desktop. Some times it will connect and some times it wont. Right now I can access my router, webpage, and SSH but remote desktop wont connect. Any ideas whats going on?
[10:52] <bazhang> dirtbag, lxde, and a ton of others check synaptic package manager
[10:53] <ikonia> Roxy: it says you are supposed to mount the CDROM on your existing install - not boot from it
[10:53] <bazhang> vadi01_, phrases or single words or what
[10:53] <ActionParsnip2> Dabbill: is the remote deskop on the same system as the rest?
[10:53] <Roxy> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading
[10:53] <Roxy> Oh
[10:53] <arturo_on_rails> ikonia: thanks a lot
[10:53] <Dabbill> ActionParsnip2, yes
[10:53] <vadi01_> both
[10:53] <Roxy> Is there a command to do that in bash as the GUI isn't functioning on my system
[10:53] <bazhang> vadi01_, I just usually use the web interface of google translate
[10:54] <ikonia> Roxy: command to do what ?
[10:54] <Roxy> upgrade the distro from the CD
[10:54] <Roxy> the alternate CD
[10:54] <ActionParsnip2> Dabbill: check the service that you connect to is running and verify its port number, you could try restarting the remote desktop service
[10:54] <ikonia> Roxy: you're not reading the instructions
[10:54] <Boohbah_> Roxy: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:54] <ikonia> Roxy: the exact command you need are on that page you've posted
[10:55] <ikonia> Boohbah_: no
[10:55] <ikonia> Boohbah_: it's a CD install
[10:55] <ikonia> CD upgrade
[10:55] <FloodBot3> ikonia: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:55] <Dabbill> ActionParsnip2, it was working like 2 hours ago, i rebooted the computer and now its not connecting, No settings for VNC have changed,
[10:55] <Roxy> Alright
[10:55] <ikonia> Roxy: actually READ the instructions
[10:55] <ActionParsnip2> Dabbill: then check the vnc server is running
[10:56] <ActionParsnip2> Dabbill: check any security is allowing the traffic
[10:56] <jigp> ActionParsnip2: saved gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:56] <Dabbill> ActionParsnip2, how do i see if its up and running
[10:56] <jigp> ActionParsnip2: what to do next?
[10:57] <ActionParsnip2> Dabbill: ps -ef | grep vnc     on the server
[10:57] <Roxy> I assume I'm supposed to enter kdesudo "sh /media/cdrom0/cdromupgrade" into bash which results in kdesudo cannot connect to X server after I've booted Kubuntu
[10:57] <ActionParsnip2> jigp: add the line from the site that defines the repo, but change intrepid for hardy
[10:58] <Dabbill> ActionParsnip2, says .. dabbill  6616 6599 0 02:57 pts/0 00:00:00 grep vnc
[10:58] <Dabbill> ActionParsnip2, i am guessing that means its running
[10:58] <ActionParsnip2> Dabbill: then the vnc server isnt running
[10:59] <ActionParsnip2> Dabbill: no thats the grep command you just ran running
[10:59] <Dabbill> ActionParsnip2, ahh okay
[10:59] <Dabbill> ActionParsnip2, how do i start the vnc server on command line then?
[10:59] <ActionParsnip2> Dabbill: the vncserver is not started so there is nothing to connect to
[10:59] <ne2k__> is there a ubuntu metapackage which installs an X Server and the gnome desktop (including all the prefs programs, network manager, etc.) but doesn't install the office suite, evolution, etc.? I need a gui for a server but don't want all the apps and games
[10:59] <aboucher> anyone use edubuntu servers before
[10:59] <ActionParsnip2> Dabbill: i dont use vnc, i think its horrible and its hugely unsecure
[11:00] <ActionParsnip2> !vnc | Dabbill
[11:00] <ne2k__> ActionParsnip2: vnc over ssh?
[11:00] <bazhang> aboucher, what do you mean; a server has no gui
[11:00] <ActionParsnip2> ne2k__: you got it, best way :)
[11:01] <aboucher> the edubuntu server has a gui. i ve been looking it up to use it in my school for thin clients and i just wanted how others think of it
[11:01] <xukun> Anybody know if the Gigabyte GA-E7AUM-DS2H Motherboard is supported, I did not found any info at the wiki hardware support
[11:01] <Dabbill> ActionParsnip2, do you use any remote desktop?
[11:01] <ikonia> xukun: check the chipsets - thats the key thing
[11:01] <xukun> ikonia, thanks
[11:01] <balrog__> is there anyway i can get tty1..6 to use the VGA out on my laptop?
[11:02] <ActionParsnip2> Dabbill: no i use ssh and X forwarding
[11:02] <xukun> ikonia, the chipset is nVidia GeForce 9400
[11:02] <letatcest> hello
[11:02] <Dabbill> ActionParsnip2, ahh i could never get x forwarding to work
[11:03] <ikonia> ok - so check if that is supported
[11:03] <ActionParsnip2> Dabbill: its default in openssh-server
[11:03] <letatcest> I have a sound question for the Asus M4A78 motherboard
[11:03] <benovic> ubuntu grub cant detect sidux, which i installed on hd0,1, but detects win xp (hd0,0). how can i configute grup to offer me booting in sidux, too?
[11:03] <aboucher> has anyone used edubuntu server for schools before
[11:03] <ActionParsnip2> Dabbill: in windows install Xming and then use the command: putty -X username@servername
[11:04] <bazhang> aboucher, you are having trouble running it? or just want to chat about it
[11:04] <ActionParsnip2> Dabbill: you can then launch apps and they will be drawn on the windows display, linux clients can do this without extra libs as they are already installed
[11:04] <ikonia> aboucher: just ask your question
[11:04] <aboucher> i just want to hear what other people have to say about it
[11:04] <Dabbill> ActionParsnip2, thanks i will check it out
[11:05] <Roxy> Oh
[11:05] <Roxy> I see, hahahaha
[11:05] <Xunie> What is the utility that asks your root pass when you goto synaptic or some other app?...
[11:05] <letatcest> or should i go to another channel?
[11:06] <ActionParsnip2> Xunie: gksudo
[11:06] <Xunie> letatcest, No, Ask here...
[11:06] <Roxy> Okay I have an error here, dist-upgrade.py:cannot connect to X server
[11:06] <Roxy> Is there a work around for this?
[11:06] <Jerusalem420> anyone else's firefox break this morning withh the latest update
[11:06] <ActionParsnip2> Xunie: gksudo <gui app name> <params>
[11:06] <Roxy> I think I have X started
[11:06] <ikonia> Roxy: I thought you where trying to upgrade ?
[11:06] <Psuedo> Here is my dpkg --configure -a output: http://nopaste.com/p/a14OVIAlb
[11:06] <Psuedo> Please tell me what I need to do
[11:07] <Xunie> ActionParsnip2, No,
[11:07] <Roxy> I am
[11:07] <Xunie> ActionParsnip2, That is the one (you get when you press alt+f2)
[11:07] <ikonia> Roxy: so what's the issue ?
[11:07] <Roxy> I mounted the CD drive and I typed in sudo sh /cdrom/cdromupgrade
[11:07] <Xunie> or atleast one that asks what to execute, even when I enter a shell or program ActionParsnip2
[11:08] <Roxy> and it gives me an X server error
[11:08] <Roxy> even though X is started
[11:08] <mrwes> Is it possible to run ssh Xforwarding from a Windows XP computer?
[11:08] <Xunie> Roxy, type 'echo $SCREEN' for me, and paste the output will ya?
[11:08] <paul68> jrib:  I tried to find a solution for th nfs on hardy but no luck will try another way to solve my problem
[11:08] <ikonia> Roxy: please show me the output of "id" on a command line
[11:08] <Roxy> no problem
[11:09] <Planteur> Hello everyone. Any Gnome Do user here?
[11:09] <Dabbill> ActionParsnip2, where do i run that command? I have xming server:0.0 running on my PC
[11:09] <ActionParsnip2> Xunie: i know what you mean, its krunner in kde. I dont use gnome
[11:09] <ne2k__> is there a ubuntu metapackage which installs an X Server and the gnome desktop (including all the prefs programs, network manager, etc.) but doesn't install the office suite, evolution, etc.? I need a gui for a server but don't want all the apps and games
[11:09] <jrib> paul68: the bug reports didn't have any comments with ideas?
[11:09] <ActionParsnip2> Dabbill: fine, in putty type: firefox &
[11:09] <joaopinto> ne2k__, "gnome" ?
[11:10] <Xunie> ActionParsnip2, nevermind..
[11:10] <Roxy> uid=1000(rox) gid=1000(rox) groups=4(adm), 20(dialout), 24(cdrom), 25(floppy), 29(audio), 30(dip), 44(video), 46(plugdev), 109(lpadmin), 111(scanner), 113(admin), 1000(rox)
[11:10] <Roxy> That's the readout
[11:10] <ne2k__> joaopinto: nope, that depends on evolution, rhythmbox, etc.
[11:10] <sprinkmeier> mrwes, you'd need an X server running on the windows computer. Then it can be done (in fact, I've done it). another way is to use VNC
[11:11] <paul68> jrib: no did not solve a thing followed a view optoins  however each time the same error will try to work something out with expect
[11:11] <ikonia> Roxy: type "xhost +" then try it
[11:11] <Dabbill> ActionParsnip2, i get error cannot open display: localhost:10.0
[11:11] <ikonia> Roxy: for some reason you're user environment is mesed up
[11:11] <ActionParsnip2> Dabbill: did you install xming?
[11:11] <joaopinto> ne2k__, because those are considered "gnome applications", if you want a customized set of apps, you will need to specific :P
[11:11] <ikonia> Roxy:  you've not done "su" at any point have you ?
[11:11] <jrib> paul68: with "expect"?  The program?
[11:11] <Dabbill> ActionParsnip2, yes
[11:11] <ActionParsnip2> Dabbill: is xming running on the windows pc?
[11:11] <Dabbill> ActionParsnip2, yes
[11:11] <Roxy> I have not
[11:11] <sprinkmeier> Dabbill, sounds like an ssh-X-forwarding error. did you "ssh -X"?
[11:12] <ne2k__> joaopinto: I think that's nonsense
[11:12] <paul68> jrib: yes got a script to do scp with expect and do my filetransfer like that
[11:12] <drkns> hello
[11:12] <drkns> I am using xubuntu 8.10
[11:12] <Dabbill> sprinkmeier, where would i type that?
[11:12] <joaopinto> ne2k__, what is nonsense ?
[11:12] <paul68> jrib: if you like I can send you this script through pastebin
[11:12] <Roxy> My user environment does seem to be rather messed up, I think the system upgraded with files from gutsy because I was trying to get my sources.list file to work with the Aptitude network install
[11:12] <ActionParsnip2> Dabbill: in putty make sure you have ticked Enable X forwarding
[11:13] <ne2k__> joaopinto: that rhythmbox is part of gnome
[11:13] <ActionParsnip2> Dabbill: you have to do the following: in the main configuration window of Putty (you get it when you start Putty), select Connection section, then SSH, then X11, and make sure you tick the Enable X11 Forwarding option.
[11:13] <drkns> my problem is it wont reboot after a while
[11:13] <jrib> paul68: oh, you mean avoiding nfs altogether.  If you still care about nfs, iirc nfs just couldn't start in the postinst script, so I'd look for logs that nfs writes to
[11:13] <sprinkmeier> I type "ssh -X user@host" to get an ssh session with X-forwarding on host. I can then execte X programs on host and have the display redirected to my current system
[11:13] <joaopinto> ne2k__, http://live.gnome.org/Rhythmbox
[11:13] <ne2k__> joaopinto: it's /for/ gnome, it's not part of it
[11:13] <drkns> it says unclean shutdown detected and start a drive check but my screen goes black and have to reboot
[11:13] <jrib> paul68: why do you need expect? Wouldn't scp be enough to transfer files?
[11:14] <Dabbill> ActionParsnip2, i do have it enabled
[11:14] <drkns> i did fsck while on live cd but didint help
[11:14] <paul68> jrib: I want to do it a sort of automatic way without having to enter my credentials each time
[11:14] <jrib> paul68: create an ssh key
[11:14] <joaopinto> ne2k__, apart from gnome the window manager, gnome has a defined list of applications as part of "gnome", rythmbox is one of those as far I can understand
[11:14] <sprinkmeier> paul68, ssh-keygen?
[11:14] <ne2k__> joaopinto: right. so how do I get gnome, but not the applications?
[11:14] <ne2k__> and an x server?
[11:14] <Dabbill> ah okay finaly it loads
[11:15] <Dabbill> ActionParsnip2, thanks,
[11:15] <paul68> jrib: tried that didn't want to work for some weird reason followed several howto but my system wouldn't allow it
[11:15] <Home> any body here with a presario cq40
[11:15] <drkns> anyone care to help?
[11:15] <jrib> paul68: it should work fine
[11:15] <joaopinto> ne2k__, maybe, gnome-session
[11:15] <jrib> drkns: you have to ask a question :)
[11:15] <defrysk> !ask
[11:15] <ActionParsnip2> Dabbill: all better?
[11:16] <defrysk> !anyone
[11:16] <ne2k__> joaopinto: ah, that looks good, thanks
[11:16] <drkns> jrib my question is how can i make my xubuntu to start up
[11:16] <Dabbill> ActionParsnip2, yes, its really slow tho :( but it seems to be working
[11:16] <joaopinto> ne2k__, and probably you also want gdm
[11:16] <sprinkmeier> drkns, are you sure its dead? screensaver? power-safe mode? boot into recovery mode, less to go wrong.
[11:16] <Home> totem is freezing in lap
[11:16] <drkns> it hangs during routine drive check
[11:16] <Home> please help
[11:16] <Roxy> ikonia would you know anyway to start to fix my user environment troubles?
[11:16] <paul68> jrib: I know but for some reason it doesn't want to on my system broke my braincells over it for three days and every option I took didn't want to work
[11:16] <ActionParsnip2> Dabbill: its not bad, yuo can tweak it some but its a shedload more secure than VNC, vnc doesnt encrypt its data
[11:17] <ActionParsnip2> Dabbill: you can use an ssh tunnel to make it secure though
[11:17] <ikonia> Roxy: I've no idea how you've messed them up
[11:17] <drkns> no screensaver no power-safe
[11:17] <ikonia> Roxy: have you ever done "su"
[11:17] <Roxy> I have not to the best of my knowledge
[11:17] <sprinkmeier> drkns, any reason to suspect HW might be flaky?
[11:17] <Dabbill> ActionParsnip2, yea i understand that, but i realy dont need encryption its just a PC running at my dads house to maily host pictues heh
[11:17] <jrib> paul68: feel free to pastebin if you want to troubleshoot
[11:17] <ikonia> Roxy: try typeing "gnome-terminal" see if it launches another termianl or not
[11:17] <ikonia> typing sorry
[11:18] <Roxy> I'm running Kubuntu
[11:18] <ActionParsnip2> Dabbill: well if you are typing any passwords they are transmitted as clear text
[11:18] <Iceman_B^Ltop> does anyone know how I can tell Ubuntu to send my "ctrl+s" to rTorrent instead of freezing the screen? I connect to my server through Putty
[11:18] <ikonia> Roxy: so ?
[11:18] <Roxy> Okie dokie
[11:18] <drkns> I believe after certain number of start up drives flag em to be checked and kubuntu, ubuntu, xubuntu 8.10 all work till this 30is start up
[11:18] <Dabbill> ActionParsnip2, ahh okay
[11:18] <Roxy> gnome-terminal: command not found
[11:18] <paul68> jrib: ok will do
[11:18] <ikonia> Roxy: try "xterm"
[11:18] <ne2k__> joaopinto: hmmm, gnome-session doesn't appear to actually depend on an x server
[11:18] <Dabbill> ActionParsnip2, know of a how to on doing tunneling?
[11:19] <drkns> and then it says i am gonna make a routine drive check and during that check it hangs and i have to shutdown the hard way and after that it says unclean shutdown detected and hangs again each time it checks the drive
[11:19] <Roxy> xterm Xt error: Can't open display xterm: DISPLAY is not set
[11:19] <ikonia> Roxy: show me the command you used again please.
[11:19] <ikonia> Roxy: the one you used to start the upgrade
[11:19] <sprinkmeier> drkns, correct, 37 mounts or 60 days by default (IIRC). I had a dodgy disk once that died if I used the second half of it, if you have something similar and the fsck is the only thing that normally touches that part of the disk it might explain it. You ran fsck from a live CD? result?
[11:19] <ActionParsnip2> Dabbill: http://martybugs.net/smoothwall/puttyvnc.cgi
[11:19] <joaopinto> ne2k__, which makes sense, you can use a remote X server, for a local gnome session ;)
[11:20] <Roxy> Well this was a pre-existing problem it was actually what I was trying to fix by attempting the upgrade
[11:20] <ActionParsnip2> Dabbill: ssh is more than just a remote terminal dude
[11:20] <ikonia> Roxy: the one you used to start the upgrade
[11:20] <ne2k__> joaopinto: this is not helpful
[11:20] <ne2k__> joaopinto: I am wall aware of that
[11:20] <drkns> results are just fine no error nothing
[11:20] <Roxy> but I used mount /cdrom/ and then sh /cdrom/cdupgrade/
[11:20] <ikonia> Roxy: - no the one to start the upgrade
[11:20] <Roxy> while in the media directory
[11:20] <joaopinto> ne2k__, so you just need to install xorg
[11:20] <ikonia> Roxy: - no the one to start the upgrade
[11:20] <benovic> I need some help configuring grub so it boots in my second OS, sidux. I get an error 13 when I write the stuff directly in menu.lst
[11:20] <Dabbill> ActionParsnip2, thanks for all your help, yea I am trying to learn all this remote stuff up till a month ago my linux PC was right next to me, so i could just use it as a normal PC to configure every thig
[11:21] <Roxy> Well I was in the command line install but then I exited and booted Kubuntu
[11:21] <Roxy> and then I did what you told me and read the directions again
[11:21] <ikonia> Roxy: - no the one to start the upgrade
[11:21] <ikonia> Roxy: just show me the command you used to start the install
[11:21] <ikonia> Roxy: the "upgrade" to be %100 clear
[11:21] <Roxy> I was running the upgrade from the mounted cd and it was kdesudo "sh /cdrom/cdromupgrade"
[11:21] <sprinkmeier> drkns, if the lice CD fsck worked then why is the normal boot still trying to fsck? the lice CD should have reset the mount counter....
[11:21] <ikonia> Roxy: ok - perfect
[11:22] <ikonia> ok so do "DISPLAY=:0.0"
[11:22] <ikonia> then try"xterm"
[11:22] <drkns> I dont understand either
[11:22] <ne2k__> joaopinto: you know i think I might just install gnome and be done with it
[11:22] <drkns> i am doing fsck now and it found some errors this time
[11:22] <ActionParsnip2> Dabbill: some apps have http interfaces too, you can look into those
[11:22] <sprinkmeier> !name drkns
[11:22] <Roxy> xterm Xt error: Can't open display xterm: DISPLAY is not set
[11:22] <sprinkmeier> !name > drkns
[11:22] <Roxy> same error
[11:22] <Dabbill> ActionParsnip2, yea i have gotten a couple of those working as well
[11:22] <ikonia> Roxy: show me "echo $DISPLAY" please
[11:22] <Iceman_B^Ltop> does anyone know how I can tell Ubuntu to send my "ctrl+s" to rTorrent instead of freezing the screen? I connect to my server through Putty. Same question for ctrl+q
[11:23] <drkns> /dev/sda1 contains a file system with errors, check forced.
[11:23] <drkns> Pass 1: Checking inodes, blocks, and sizes
[11:23] <drkns> Inodes that were part of a corrupted orphan linked list found.  Fix<y>? yes
[11:23] <drkns> Inode 573577 was part of the orphaned inode list.  FIXED.
[11:23] <drkns> Pass 2: Checking directory structure
[11:23] <FloodBot3> drkns: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:23] <drkns> Entry 'poker.xml' in /usr/share/gnome/help/aisleriot/C (574970) has deleted/unused inode 573570.  Clear<y>? yes
[11:23] <sprinkmeier> drkns, are you sure you fsck'ed all the partitions? /boot and / are the only ones by default, did you add any?
[11:23] <Roxy> rox@rox-laptop:~@ echo $DISPLAY Readout: :0.0
[11:24] <drkns> Entry 'thieves.xml' in /usr/share/gnome/help/aisleriot/C (574970) has deleted/unused inode 573584.  Clear<y>? yes
[11:24] <drkns> am i deleting my stuff
[11:24] <ikonia> Roxy: there is actually a gui running isn't there ?
[11:24] <sprinkmeier> drkns, NFI.... but is sure looks like your FS is in pain... Usually the only time I get those sort of errors is when the disk is about to die. ext2 or 3?
[11:25] <balrog__> thanks for all your help ikonia
[11:25] <drkns> 3
[11:25] <Roxy> All I have running is bash, I can see text but X crashed so I don't believe so
[11:25] <ikonia> balrog__: no problem
[11:25] <xukun> How can I see the total % CPU used of the 4 cores?
[11:25] <ikonia> Roxy: then why are you trying to launch X applications
[11:25] <ikonia> Roxy: if there is no X server running - how do you expect to launch X applications ?
[11:25] <sprinkmeier> drkns, OK...3 i journalling so FSCK should _never_ need to fix stuff like this. SMART?
[11:25] <Roxy> because I started the X server and when I tried to access the upgrade it crashes
[11:25] <drkns> I am not sure
[11:26] <ikonia> Roxy: so why continue - it's crashed, you can't use it
[11:26] <alap_> ActionParsnip2: still i am unable to compile my kernel please help me out of this still stuck at same problem of module source .
[11:26] <sprinkmeier> drkns, can you run SMART tests?
[11:26] <Roxy> Yeah, I was hoping to fix that
[11:26] <Kartagis> if I want a script tp be run at powerofff, do I need to put the symlink in /etc/rc2.d/ or what directory?
[11:27] <drkns> how can i run that
[11:27] <ikonia> Roxy: you need to fix it before you upgrade
[11:27] <mrwes> Is it possible to run ssh X-tunneling from a Windows XP machine?
[11:27] <ikonia> Roxy: the upgrader is trying to use a gui -
[11:27] <Roxy> Alright
[11:27] <ikonia> mrwes: if you have an X11 server  you can
[11:27] <ActionParsnip2> alap_: apt-cache search kernel | grep source
[11:27] <mrwes> ikonia, is there one for XP?
[11:27] <sprinkmeier> drkns, I use "/usr/sbin/smartctl --test=short /dev/sda" or "... --test=long ...".
[11:27] <ikonia> mrwes: I assume you mean tunnel X over ssh - or just tunnels in general
[11:27] <ActionParsnip2> alap_: you could even grep for your current kernel version numbers
[11:28] <mrwes> ikonia, righ...tunnel X over ssh
[11:28] <etfb> I want to set up my system so that I can use the PHP mail() function, which requires sendmail and gods only know what else.  Does this mean I also need postfix?  I have huge gaps in my knowledge in this area.
[11:28] <sprinkmeier> Kartagis, power-off is runlevel 0, so /etc/rc0.s/S00xxxx should do
[11:28] <ikonia> mrwes: you'll need an X server on your local windows box - look at things like exceed, or PC-X-Ware
[11:28] <Roxy> Alright then, when I boot Kubuntu it mentions that the system recognizes a screen but that it can't access it, I have my xorg.conf file set to use vesa
[11:28] <ActionParsnip2> mrwes: i use xming myself, its free
[11:29] <mrwes> ikonia, K -- I'll check into those
[11:29] <haptiK> hi what application should i use to create a startup usb stick
[11:29] <Roxy> and I can't log in to Kubuntu as the X server keeps crashing
[11:29] <haptiK> isotostick.sh seems to have been phased out
[11:29] <drkns> no such file
[11:29] <mrwes> ActionParsnip2, looking at xming now -- thanks
[11:29] <sprinkmeier> mrwes, I sued to start a VNC session on the linux box, then connect (tunnelled through ssh) from the XP box as needed.
[11:29] <sprinkmeier> s/sued/used/
[11:29] <ActionParsnip2> Roxy: bot to recovery root console and run: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:29] <ActionParsnip2> Roxy: then reboot
[11:30] <Roxy> okay
[11:30] <Iceman_B^Ltop> never mind, I got it. stty stop undef
[11:30] <Iceman_B^Ltop> did the trick
[11:30] <mrwes> I prefer the security of ssh over vnc
[11:30] <ActionParsnip2> mrwes: make sure putty has the X forwarding option enabled too
[11:30] <ikonia> Roxy: use "safe mode" when you boot kubuntu
[11:30] <ikonia> ActionParsnip2: he needs a local xserver, putty is not an xserver
[11:30] <ActionParsnip2> mrwes: then its simply a case of: putty -X user@server
[11:30] <mrwes> ActionParsnip2, ok.. I have puTTY installed and working already
[11:30] <DeVilDeMonde> Hello, I'm having some problems with my logitech mouse resolution and was wondering if anybody could help me.
[11:30] <ActionParsnip2> ikonia: i told hiim/her to install xming, that is an x server
[11:30] <Iceman_B^Ltop> speaking of VNC
[11:30] <mrwes> ActionParsnip2, and xming will start the Xserver ?
[11:31] <RizR> Hi. My sound card got jammed due to  (probably) an application using sound being killed.
[11:31] <ikonia> ActionParsnip2: ahh sorry, missed that
[11:31] <ActionParsnip2> mrwes: indeed
[11:31] <sprinkmeier> ActionParsnip2, mrwes using VNC has 2 advantages, no need to run X on XP, and the session is persistent
[11:31] <ActionParsnip2> ikonia: np ;)
[11:31] <haptiK> anyone? whats the name of the usb startup creator utility??
[11:31] <Iceman_B^Ltop> my server is now probably standing still at the login screen, is there any way I can VNC to it from windows and use it as if I were sitting at the screen locally ?
[11:31] <RizR> I got an error like ALSA snd_pcm_open error: Device or resource busy when using mplayer
[11:31] <RizR> restart solves the issue
[11:31] <ActionParsnip2> sprinkmeier: disadvantages, exta software if ssh is already used, unsecure
[11:31] <Iceman_B^Ltop> im using the normal Ubuntu 8.10
[11:31] <RizR> how to get this issue solved without restart?
[11:31] <RizR> using intrepid
[11:32] <ewook> RizR: restart pulseaudio to begin with.
[11:32] <mrwes> sprinkmeier, agreed, but I'd like to learn how to use ssh x-tunneling
[11:32] <bazhang> haptiK, usb-creator
[11:32] <ActionParsnip2> RizR: restart hal and alsa
[11:32] <RizR> did
[11:32] <ewook> ho.
[11:32] <ewook> oh
[11:32] <ActionParsnip2> !sound | RizR
[11:32] <sprinkmeier> mrwes, fair enough, just don't make it harder on yourself than you have to by trying to debug XP-X at the same time :-)
[11:32] <haptiK> bazhang : thank you
[11:32] <RizR> ewook: restarted pulseaudio and alsa-utils but doesnt work.
[11:32] <drkns> just no file or directory thats what iam getting
[11:33] <corinth> I need a c# compiler, what should I use?
[11:33] <mrwes> sprinkmeier, yah.... I only use XP when I'm at work and I'm looking for a secure way to jump on my box from there
[11:33] <RizR> ActionParsnip2: thanks. now restarted computer. gonna try to re-create it and see what happens
[11:33] <xukun> my Q8300 cpu is using 150% when I play 1080p movie. Is that normal?
[11:33] <ActionParsnip2> RizR: when it ceases, read dmesg | tail
[11:33] <sprinkmeier> mrwes, give up X altogether and just use putty and the command-line, works for me
[11:34] <Geek`N`Proud> xukun, what GPU do you use?
[11:34] <ActionParsnip2> sprinkmeier: true enough :(. users like a pretty picture to click on though
[11:34] <mrwes> sprinkmeier, yah.. and I have WinSCP running too
[11:34] <drkns> thatk you ppl
[11:34] <xukun> Geek`N`Proud, nvidia 8600GT
[11:34] <drkns> thanks
[11:34] <Geek`N`Proud> xukun, you may want to build a copy of mplayer or such from CVS/SVN
[11:34] <Geek`N`Proud> and build it with --enable-vdpau
[11:35] <Geek`N`Proud> you'll find you'll use far less CPU time then
[11:35] <jrib> corinth: check out mono
[11:35] <xukun> Geek`N`Proud, thank m8 I will look in to that
[11:36] <victim> DeVilDeMonde: did you read http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=219894  about 1/2 way down
[11:36] <sprinkmeier> ActionParsnip2, I've seen some _really_ pretty ascii art....
[11:36] <alap_> ActionParsnip2: yes after apt-cache and grep what should i do as for compilation purpose i need package of modules which i don't have.
[11:36] <Jet``> pr0n ?
[11:37] <DeVilDeMonde> victim: Which part are you referring to?
[11:37] <ActionParsnip2> alap_: apt-cache search kernel modules
[11:37] <DeVilDeMonde> victim: Section 3?
[11:37] <mrwes> ActionParsnip2, how is the performance of xming over broadband?
[11:38] <tony403> using "eye of gnome" image viewer. how  do i change images with the mouse? it doesn't seem configurable
[11:38] <ActionParsnip2> mrwes: not dont that myself, i use ssh over WAN, broadband has sucky upload so may lg a little
[11:38] <tony403> it's very important to be able to use one hand
[11:39] <mrwes> ActionParsnip2, yah I figured that -- VNC is pretty laggy too -- but puTTY is pretty snapy
[11:39]  * DeVilDeMonde grabs lomoco now
[11:39] <ActionParsnip2> mrwes: well its text only, what did you expect
[11:39] <mrwes> yah
[11:40] <ActionParsnip2> DeVilDeMonde: i suggested that in #kubuntu
[11:40] <ara_> hey hey
[11:40] <mrwes> guess I'm stating the obvious
[11:40] <mrwes> :)
[11:40] <ara_> i'm starting ubuntu
[11:40] <ara_> :p
[11:40] <ara_> 8.10
[11:40] <mrwes> congrats
[11:40] <alap_> ActionParsnip2: yes but now if i try to build kernel modules it is giving me same error and as i do apt-cache its showing me all the modules available on my system
[11:40] <DeVilDeMonde> ActionParsnip2: Sorry I didn't realize I had the one and not the other...
[11:40] <ara_> But i've got a problem to install cs 1.6 with wine :x
[11:40] <silv3r_m00n> hi there
[11:40] <ara_> ji
[11:40]  * DeVilDeMonde facepalms
[11:41] <ara_> hi
[11:41] <ActionParsnip2> alap_: you need to read the !kernel factoid
[11:41] <silv3r_m00n> I am trying to run age of empires using wine... but isn't it necessary to install directx also ?
[11:41] <ActionParsnip2> alap_: http://www.howtoforge.com/kernel_compilation_ubuntu
[11:41] <ActionParsnip2> silv3r_m00n: no, wine implements the directx stuff for you
[11:41] <Debolaz> How can I enable/disable vpn connections configured through the gnome network manager when in the console?
[11:42] <silv3r_m00n> ActionParsnip2: I installed it and when I run it it says check your graphics card and driver
[11:42] <ActionParsnip2> silv3r_m00n: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iAppId=762
[11:42] <Pythack> Hello
[11:42] <Kartagis> r3dux, I found the script I was looking for :)
[11:42] <ActionParsnip2> silv3r_m00n: you may need to give it some funky optios in winecfg
[11:42] <Pythack> Do you know Voicespeaker?
[11:43] <silv3r_m00n> ActionParsnip2: I am trying AOE 2 The conquerors
[11:43] <ActionParsnip2> silv3r_m00n: looks like you gotta play it at 640x480 to get normal speed
[11:43] <tony403> is there a way to configure the back mouse button for gnome like vista?
[11:43] <ActionParsnip2> silv3r_m00n: you said age of empires
[11:43] <silv3r_m00n> ActionParsnip2: what ever how do I get it to run
[11:43] <Psuedo> Here is my dpkg --configure -a output: http://nopaste.com/p/a14OVIAlb = Please tell me what I need to do
[11:44] <brunner> Hi folks.  I just rooted a box and I'm wondering if there would be any consequences if I edit /var/log/messages
[11:44]  * DeVilDeMonde Cheers!
[11:44] <sdousley|work> Hi All, we have a box that's supposed to be booting off a dmraid raid-0 set, however, I'm just trying to reinstall grub to the disks as that's failed, but not sure on how to use dmraid to see the partitions. =/
[11:44] <ActionParsnip2> silv3r_m00n: please be precise, there are 3 AOE games: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=147
[11:44] <ActionParsnip2> silv3r_m00n: AOE 2 gets a gold award
[11:44] <DeVilDeMonde> ActionParsnip2 & Victim: that worked, thank you both again ever so much!
[11:44] <ActionParsnip2> silv3r_m00n: use the wine packages off the wine repos
[11:45] <Pythack> Hello, I have a problem with wine. When I install VoiceSpeaker and I start it, It closes brutally...
[11:45] <victim> :)
[11:45] <ActionParsnip2> DeVilDeMonde: np man
[11:45] <silv3r_m00n> ActionParsnip2: are they full version :-?
[11:45] <Pythack> Have you a solution to my problem?
[11:45] <Psuedo> Does anyone know of an online place where I can upload a repository, but keeping it private?
[11:45]  * DeVilDeMonde is too used to GUIs sometimes being a tech for the public hurts... :(
[11:45] <ActionParsnip2> silv3r_m00n: http://www.winehq.org/download/deb
[11:45] <ActionParsnip2> silv3r_m00n: yes, why woulnt they be?
[11:46] <silv3r_m00n> ActionParsnip2: aren't those games paid things ?
[11:46] <silv3r_m00n> those are microsoft stuff
[11:46] <ActionParsnip2> silv3r_m00n: no, wineis free
[11:46] <Geek`N`Proud> Wine is free
[11:46] <Geek`N`Proud> the game AOE2 is not
[11:46] <ActionParsnip2> silv3r_m00n: what are you talking about
[11:46] <dadi> salut a tous
[11:46] <ActionParsnip2> silv3r_m00n: the wine version off the wine repo is as free as the one on the ubuntu repo which you have installed
[11:47] <DeVilDeMonde> silv3r_m00n: I'm playing with Wine now for World of Warcraft. it is most assuredly free to install and run Wine.
[11:47] <ActionParsnip2> silv3r_m00n: AOE2 is a paid for product
[11:47] <dadi> salut
[11:47] <silv3r_m00n> ActionParsnip2: that's what I am asking
[11:47] <Geek`N`Proud> silv3r_m00n, if you already own AOE2 then you can use Wine to play it
[11:47] <ActionParsnip2> silv3r_m00n: once you ad the gpg key and the repo you wil lbe offered an upgrade of your wine install
[11:47] <silv3r_m00n> ActionParsnip2: you mean that I shud install wine from wine repos and not from synaptic
[11:47] <dadi> je sais as comment je etulisie ce salon il a quelqui qui veut me aideé ,
[11:47] <silv3r_m00n> that's what you mean ?
[11:48]  * DeVilDeMonde is considering trying cedega... but doesn't like the closed sourceness of it all...
[11:48] <Geek`N`Proud> silv3r_m00n, you add the wine repo to the list
[11:48] <silv3r_m00n> I thought install AOE from wine repo :p
[11:48] <ActionParsnip2> silv3r_m00n: synaptic uses the repos specified in /etc/apt/sources.lst
[11:48] <Geek`N`Proud> then you can install it through synaptic
[11:48] <diffred> hi! I've python 2.5.2, I want to update to python 2.6.1, can i do it with apt-get or something?
[11:48] <Geek`N`Proud> DeVilDeMonde, it is better for a select few games
[11:48] <ActionParsnip2> silv3r_m00n: if you add the wine repo you can upgrade it using your normal upgrade method
[11:48] <Geek`N`Proud> for everything else Wine is superior
[11:49] <ActionParsnip2> silv3r_m00n: you can use any package app you wish like synaptic or aptitude or apt-get
[11:49] <silv3r_m00n> ActionParsnip2: well .. this AOE is kind of cracked thing.. will it still work with wine
[11:49] <ActionParsnip2> silv3r_m00n: no idea
[11:49] <silv3r_m00n> ActionParsnip2: by the way I already have wine installed
[11:49] <Geek`N`Proud> silv3r_m00n, originally cracked games were *required* to run on Wine
[11:49] <ActionParsnip2> silv3r_m00n: but you will need to run the installer with wine and it will be installed in your home dir
[11:49] <Kartagis> !partitioning
[11:49] <silv3r_m00n> ActionParsnip2: yes I installed it
[11:49] <ActionParsnip2> silv3r_m00n: if its not the one from the wine repo, you need to get that one
[11:50] <DeVilDeMonde> Geek`N`Proud:  Interesting, i finally got fed up with all Microsloth's crap regarding Windoze, and am making a complete transition, Sabayon was my first choice, but it didn't like my ATI graphics card, which Ubuntu was grateful for...
[11:50] <silv3r_m00n> ActionParsnip2: what is the difference ?
[11:50] <ActionParsnip2> silv3r_m00n: the one on the wine repo is maintained by the peope who develop wine so will be updated more frequesntly
[11:50] <ActionParsnip2> silv3r_m00n: plus its a later version
[11:50] <Geek`N`Proud> The Ubuntu one never changes version
[11:50] <Geek`N`Proud> it gets patches on top
[11:50] <silv3r_m00n> but the AOE is too old .. for wine to be updated to be able to run it
[11:50] <Geek`N`Proud> the Wine one stays with the latest version
[11:50] <Pythack> Hello, I have a problem with wine. When I install VoiceSpeaker and I start it, It closes brutally...
[11:51] <ActionParsnip2> silv3r_m00n: if you use wine, you need it. short answer
[11:51] <DeVilDeMonde> Geek`N`Proud: The only reason i've been holding out for so long is because i'm a gaming fanatic.
[11:51] <silv3r_m00n> ActionParsnip2: fine .. then in short let me get it
[11:51] <Geek`N`Proud> DeVilDeMonde, in that case.. Cedega doesn't really cost that much to try out
[11:51] <Psuedo> Does anyone know of an online place where I can upload a repository for free? Currently tryping Launchpad, can't figure it out...
[11:51] <Geek`N`Proud> DeVilDeMonde, but my experience was that Wine worked better for most of my games
[11:52] <DeVilDeMonde> Geek`N`Proud: yeah i noticed many of the newer and great games are supported by it...
[11:52] <Geek`N`Proud> that said I don't buy new PC games now
[11:52] <Geek`N`Proud> I have a PS3 instead
[11:52] <silv3r_m00n> ActionParsnip2: I am already using this ies4linux.. will they break if I install wine like that ?
[11:52] <diffred>  hi! I've python 2.5.2, I want to update to python 2.6.1, can i do it with apt-get or something?. Thanks in advance
[11:52] <Geek`N`Proud> DRM on games kinda takes away the benefit of PC games
[11:52] <DeVilDeMonde> Geek`N`Proud: Oh? I can't stand not having super high resolution with a keyboard and mouse.
[11:53] <ActionParsnip2> silv3r_m00n: no as it uses wine, the better version will most likely make it smoother
[11:53] <silv3r_m00n> ActionParsnip2: that's interesting since currently ies4linux is very unsmooth
[11:53] <Geek`N`Proud> I can't stand all my games failing every time I upgrade my OS
[11:54] <Geek`N`Proud> (UT, SimCity 3000 etc.)
[11:54] <jrib> diffred: there's a ppa with python 2.6 if you just want the interpreter to play with
[11:54] <silv3r_m00n> ActionParsnip2: I added that source and I can see something called wine-gecko .. what is that
[11:54] <ActionParsnip2> Geek`N`Proud: play old dos games like dune and duke nukem 3d, problem solved
[11:54] <DeVilDeMonde> Geek`N`Proud: We'll have to see if I have that problem, the way microsloth is floundering about, we may very well get some of the big developers to embrace Linux
[11:54] <ActionParsnip2> silv3r_m00n: its IE libs that some apps use
[11:54] <diffred> jrib: so I cannot install it in an easy way? (don't know what ppa is sorry)
[11:54] <silv3r_m00n> ActionParsnip2: is this wine thing all of windows ?
[11:55] <ActionParsnip2> !info wine-gecko
[11:55] <jrib> diffred: ppa is a repository (this is the easy way; you add a repository and install the package)
[11:55] <Geek`N`Proud> silv3r_m00n, no it's a compatibility layer which includes no Microsoft-written components
[11:55] <ActionParsnip2> silv3r_m00n: no, its an abstraction later to translate windows calls to native linux system instructions
[11:55] <Geek`N`Proud> silv3r_m00n, think of it like being a bunch of DLLs for Linux and a PE interpreter
[11:55] <silv3r_m00n> Geek`N`Proud: hmm
[11:55] <diffred> jrib: oh thanks it's like adding a line in the Sources of synaptic?
[11:55] <silv3r_m00n> hmm
[11:55] <DeVilDeMonde> Is there an OS emulator for Linux like VirtualPC for windoze?
[11:56] <Geek`N`Proud> DeVilDeMonde, loads
[11:56] <jrib> diffred: yes
[11:56] <silv3r_m00n> ActionParsnip2: what abt things like registry ?
[11:56] <silv3r_m00n> I mean windows registry
[11:56] <Geek`N`Proud> DeVilDeMonde, VMWare Server, Virtualbox, QEMU etc.
[11:56] <Geek`N`Proud> silv3r_m00n, type regedit when you get bored ;)
[11:56] <Geek`N`Proud> sure there is xD
[11:56] <diffred> jrib: thanks so much! how can I google for that line?
[11:56] <DeVilDeMonde> Geek`N`Proud: Any experience with virtual box?
[11:56] <jrib> diffred: "python 2.6 ppa", second hit, last comment
[11:56] <silv3r_m00n> Geek`N`Proud: :-o
[11:56] <silv3r_m00n> what was that
[11:57] <Geek`N`Proud> DeVilDeMonde, my experience is that it has a neat load of features.. provided you use a 32-bit Windows
[11:57] <Geek`N`Proud> silv3r_m00n, regedit just like on Windows, you get that with Wine and it lets you edit the Wine (Win32) registry
[11:57] <silv3r_m00n> cool
[11:58] <Geek`N`Proud> and for those who doubt how good it is, I broke Windows Genuine Advantage Validation with a few registry imports
[11:58] <Geek`N`Proud> >.>
[11:58] <DeVilDeMonde> Geek`N`Proud: 64 bit Windoze OSes are plague ridden with bugs, even more so than 32bit Windoze. I'd definately be using a 32bit version on it.
[11:58] <silv3r_m00n> Geek`N`Proud: what abt things like .net framework .. can they too work in this wine ?
[11:58] <Geek`N`Proud> silv3r_m00n, yes they can.. there is also a .NET replacement for Linux too
[11:58] <Geek`N`Proud> silv3r_m00n, you can use MS .NET or Mono (Open Source .NET) in Wine
[11:59] <silv3r_m00n> hmm
[11:59] <ActionParsnip2> silv3r_m00n: if you read online about what wine is and what it can do you'll find out more than just asking in here
[11:59] <Geek`N`Proud> and yes Mono does work natively on Linux too.. if you're a .NET programmer or a guy who likes apps like Brasero or Banshee
[12:00] <silv3r_m00n> ActionParsnip2: oh ok fine
[12:00] <silv3r_m00n> ActionParsnip2: by the way I upgraded wine and ies4linux works more smoothly
[12:00] <silv3r_m00n> earlier used to flicker a lot
[12:00] <ActionParsnip2> silv3r_m00n: sweet
[12:01] <silv3r_m00n> ActionParsnip2: by the way this ies4linux had a ie 7 too  .. I cudnt get it to work
[12:01] <silv3r_m00n> any idea ?
[12:01] <ActionParsnip2> silv3r_m00n: ive never used it, i have no need for it. Opera does all i could ask for
[12:02] <tony403> can someone tell me why i keep getting visual tearing with an 8800gt and latest ubuntu on mythtv, mplayer, and image viewer?
[12:02] <Geek`N`Proud> silv3r_m00n, because it isn't a full i37
[12:02] <silv3r_m00n> ActionParsnip2: it says failed to initialise graphics system. please check whether your graphics card drivers are compatible with direct3d
[12:02] <ActionParsnip2> silv3r_m00n: then you have some websearching to do, or ask in #wine
[12:02] <Geek`N`Proud> silv3r_m00n, it's a hack that lets you run the ie7 rendering engine inside an ie6 GUI
[12:02] <ActionParsnip2> #winehq
[12:04] <tony403> how do i change the scroll wheel amount in gnome?
[12:05] <njk> hi all
[12:05] <njk> anybody found the solution to this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1012963
[12:06] <ActionParsnip2> !mouse
[12:06] <njk> installed yesterdays network manager version but still no change :(
[12:07] <rrplay> njk, : latest from juanty ?
[12:07] <tony403> no help. i'm googling and it seems to say gnome doesn't have the option. wtf? even firefox and kde have that option
[12:07] <tony403> this is why i feared trying gnome. seems you can't do shit in it
[12:08] <Dabian> Hi, how do I check my swapspace for bad blocks, without deleting the existing bad block list?
[12:08] <ActionParsnip2> silv3r_m00n: if you read: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=147&iTestingId=35495 and scroll down you can see user commanents
[12:09] <njk> hello anyone with solution to the mess ?http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1012963
[12:09] <mylisto> hey everyone...is there a live version of ubuntu"
[12:09] <mylisto> ?
[12:09] <Dabian> lol mylisto
[12:09] <silv3r_m00n> ActionParsnip2: let me check
[12:09] <ActionParsnip2> mylisto: yep, the desktop iso will give a live desktop running purely in ram
[12:09] <mylisto> ok
[12:09] <pleomax00> i am using ubuntu 8.04, and has nvidia graphics card. after installation the drivers were installed by the system after enabling them in restricted driver. Then yesterday i ran the updates which upgraded the kernel as well. I uninstalled the new kernel but no drivers are there. how to reinstall them?
[12:09] <Dabian> ActionParsnip2: Unless it finds a swap partition! ;)
[12:10] <DeVilDeMonde> erm i have some things in my trash bin i don't have permission to delte, how do i get in as Su to empty the trash?
[12:10] <jrib> DeVilDeMonde: sudo chown -R $USER: ~/.local/share/Trash/
[12:10] <ara_> need a french channel whose could help me
[12:10] <DeVilDeMonde> ty
[12:11] <EugenA> hi, how can i avoid time running ahead on the server?
[12:11] <jrib> !fr | ara_
[12:11] <Kartagis> !fr | ara
[12:11] <ara_> thanks
[12:11] <ara_> !fr
[12:11] <ara_> oops
[12:11] <ActionParsnip2> Dabian: really, awesome :)
[12:11] <pleomax00> cool i ran sudo depmod and now its on the list :)
[12:11] <mylisto> actionparnsip2: how do I know which one is the desktop version?
[12:12] <DeVilDeMonde> jrib: That didn't work...
[12:12] <jrib> DeVilDeMonde: be more specific...
[12:12] <Dabian> ActionParsnip2: Esp. if you don't have bad blocks on your swap file system. ;)
[12:12] <ActionParsnip2> mylisto: the name gives it away, it will say deskto pin the file name, the other 2 are alternative and server which you dont want
[12:12] <silv3r_m00n> ActionParsnip2: now after the upgrade ies4linux are eating too much resourcs and everything else ha become so slow
[12:12] <ActionParsnip2> Dabian: well ive learned today :)
[12:12] <Dabian> ActionParsnip2: Thats great :)
[12:13] <ActionParsnip2> silv3r_m00n: maybe theres some tweaks you can do for wine
[12:13] <DeVilDeMonde> jrib: Error removing file: Permission denied.
[12:13] <jrib> DeVilDeMonde: what did you do to get that error?
[12:13] <ActionParsnip2> Dabian: thanks. mmm ideas for next system
[12:13] <b1n42y> silv3r_m00n, have you tried wine www
[12:13] <b1n42y> winehq
[12:14] <tony403> wtf, it's 2009 and gnome has no option to set how many lines the wheel scrolls?
[12:14] <DeVilDeMonde> jrib: opne trash, highlight file, right click, delete
[12:14] <jrib> DeVilDeMonde: did you receive any output from the command I gave you?
[12:14] <vladuz976> ubuntu has no trouble with dual monitor setup, does it?
[12:14] <b1n42y> tony403, yeah it doesnt even make you breakfast ...
[12:14] <silv3r_m00n> b1n42y: now what is that
[12:14] <DeVilDeMonde> jrib: Zero output.
[12:14] <jrib> DeVilDeMonde: hit "reload" in nautilus
[12:15] <tony403> where's the devs? i'll give them a fucking script, implement it into gnome, and fucking set. wtf is so hard about this shit?
[12:15] <b1n42y> silv3r_m00n, winehq, usually has specifics on install games via wine its their homepage
[12:15] <DeVilDeMonde> jrib: not using Nautilus...
[12:15] <b1n42y> !wine | silv3r_m00n
[12:15] <jrib> DeVilDeMonde: what are you using?
[12:15] <DeVilDeMonde> jrib: Kubuntu
[12:15] <jrib> DeVilDeMonde: hit reload in whatever application is in kubuntu
[12:16] <CVirus> Anyone around running Ubuntu on an Asus eee pc ?
[12:16] <DeVilDeMonde> jrib: yeah it still exist...
[12:16] <silv3r_m00n> b1n42y: that I know .. what is wine www
[12:16] <b1n42y> world wide web
[12:16] <jrib> DeVilDeMonde: sudo chmod -R +r ~/.local/share/Trash/
[12:16] <ActionParsnip2> CVirus: i'd run xubuntu but its pretty much the same deal
[12:16] <ActionParsnip2> CVirus: ask the room, it will respond
[12:17] <DeVilDeMonde> jrib: Zero output, refresh items still exist
[12:17]  * Dabian kicks the room ... }:->
[12:17] <jrib> DeVilDeMonde: you get error trying to delete?
[12:17] <Psuedo> Can someone please try uninstalling then installing rkhunter?
[12:17] <CVirus> ActionParsnip2: thanks
[12:17] <DeVilDeMonde> jrib: yes same error
[12:17] <ActionParsnip2> !info rkhunter
[12:18] <epifanio> hi All
[12:18] <jrib> DeVilDeMonde: ls -l /path/to/file/you/are/trying/to/delete
[12:18] <epifanio> i've a laptop with a broken cd-rom, i want install ubuntu on it, now i extracted the HD from the laptop and i mounted it in a external casa ...  can i use my desktop (ubuntu8.10) to install linux on the external drive ...  and then mount the HD on the laptop to have linux ?
[12:18] <Ian22222> I'm not sure if this is the right place, but I've got a problem with Ubuntu. I recently tried to dual-boot with Vista on another partition. I couldn't get it installed, now I can't use either Vista or Ubuntu. Any help would be appreciated.
[12:18] <arnaldo9> Hello
[12:18] <mylisto> is there a place to get a torrent of ubuntu?
[12:18] <arnaldo9> :D
[12:18] <arnaldo9> :D
[12:18] <arnaldo9> :D
[12:18] <FloodBot3> arnaldo9: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:18] <ActionParsnip2> epifanio: sure
[12:18] <jrib> !torrents | mylisto
[12:18] <ActionParsnip2> !usb | epifanio
[12:18] <epifanio> ok :-)
[12:18] <b1n42y> silv3r_m00n, http://www.winehq.org/search/?cx=partner-pub-0971840239976722%3Aw9sqbcsxtyf&cof=FORID%3A10&ie=UTF-8&q=aoe#963
[12:18] <Psuedo> !hammer
[12:18] <mylisto> what jrib:
[12:18] <arnaldo9> sads
[12:18] <arnaldo9> dasdasd
[12:18] <arnaldo9> asd
[12:18] <arnaldo9> ad
[12:18] <arnaldo9> as
[12:18] <FloodBot3> arnaldo9: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:18] <arnaldo9> adad
[12:18] <shubbar> Webcam ( 046d:08dd Logitech ) not working under Hardy. Where can I find drivers for it?
[12:18] <Psuedo> !hammertime
[12:18] <epifanio> my laptop doesn't have usb boot
[12:18] <Psuedo> Can someone please try uninstalling then installing rkhunter?
[12:19] <jrib> Psuedo: just ask your question
[12:19] <DeVilDeMonde> jrib: LOL no idea what the path to trash is...
[12:19] <Psuedo> Can someone please try uninstalling then installing rkhunter?
[12:19] <jrib> DeVilDeMonde: ~/.local/share/Trash/
[12:19] <Psuedo> jrib: That's my question, as I am having trouble installing it from the Intrepid repositories
[12:19] <jrib> Psuedo: then tell us your trouble (pastebin)
[12:20] <ikonia> tony403: could you please check you pm window
[12:20] <epifanio> ahh .. an other question, not related to the previouse
[12:20] <Psuedo> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[12:20] <DeVilDeMonde> jrib: I'm sorry it is Nautilus 2.24.1
[12:20] <epifanio> i'm running ubuntu8.1064bit on my laptop too (mac book 15'')
[12:20] <jrib> Psuedo: pastebin your commands and complete output
[12:21] <ActionParsnip2> epifanio: doesnt have to, you install in the other system, then transfer the ard drive back
[12:21] <Psuedo> !pastebin
[12:21] <epifanio> ActionParsnip2: ok :-)
[12:21] <DaveCo> this is my first time on this channel, and i dont know if im supposed to ask questions her or do i put them some where else. Please dont yell at me if im being a newb
[12:21] <ActionParsnip2> epifanio: just watch you dont start manipulating the internal drive of the sytstem you are using
[12:21] <epifanio> regarding the second question : the last ubuntu sw update (kernel update) broken my boot
[12:22] <silv3r_m00n> ActionParsnip2: I want to shut off this wine server ... how
[12:22] <ActionParsnip2> silv3r_m00n: ps -ef | grep wine
[12:22] <silv3r_m00n> I started ies4linux and closed it but this wineserver is eating too much
[12:22] <ActionParsnip2> silv3r_m00n: then kill <pid>
[12:22] <rrplay> DaveCa: welcome and just ask
[12:22] <Psuedo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/127196
[12:22] <DeVilDeMonde> jrib: ugh can't i just log back in as root?
[12:22] <epifanio> so now to boot i hit esc ond enter in the grub menu .. to boot i need to select the previouse kernel installed
[12:22] <DaveCo> wow! this is cool.
[12:22] <silv3r_m00n> ActionParsnip2: it doesn't get killed
[12:22] <Psuedo> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/127196
[12:22] <jrib> DeVilDeMonde: that would be boring
[12:23] <silv3r_m00n> what is this
[12:23] <b1n42y> ActionParsnip2, ps -aux | wine then kill by pid
[12:23] <DeVilDeMonde> jrib: But possible yes?
[12:23] <jrib> Psuedo: tell the channel, not me
[12:23] <b1n42y> oops
[12:23] <jrib> DeVilDeMonde: sure, use sudo to delete the file
[12:23] <Psuedo> Can someone please try uninstalling then installing rkhunter? - As I am getting the following error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/127196
[12:23] <ActionParsnip2> b1n42y: i use the linux standard, aux is bsd standard
[12:24] <b1n42y> ActionParsnip2, sorry wrong person, meant for silver
[12:24] <ActionParsnip2> silv3r_m00n: try: kill -15 <pid>
[12:24] <silv3r_m00n> what does -15 mean ?
[12:24] <silv3r_m00n> ActionParsnip2: I killed it from taskmanager
[12:24] <ActionParsnip2> silv3r_m00n: the pid is the leftmost number in the output
[12:24] <silv3r_m00n> fine
[12:24] <ActionParsnip2> silv3r_m00n: -15 means graceful close
[12:25] <njk> rrplay i am using ubuntu 8.10
[12:25] <ActionParsnip2> silv3r_m00n: if that fails use: kill -9 <pid>
[12:25] <njk> but my prerelease updates were on
[12:25] <ActionParsnip2> silv3r_m00n: -9 is the biggest hammer, no foolin
[12:25] <rrplay> njk : was this the network-manager problem??
[12:26] <b1n42y> ActionParsnip2, failing that kill -9 -1
[12:26]  * b1n42y with evil grin
[12:26] <njk> i am tried connecting using static ifconfig
[12:26] <rrplay> njk: are you adressing me ?
[12:26] <njk> the ipaddress gets set but cant ping the other comp
[12:27] <ActionParsnip2> silv3r_m00n: if the app is called 'wineserver' you can use: killall wineserver
[12:27] <njk> yeah
[12:27] <ActionParsnip2> silv3r_m00n: if theres any hyphens i there then add them as yuo wish
[12:27] <Dabian> ActionParsnip2: Unless you have a Sys V killall, lol.
[12:27] <rrplay> njk: please use my nick iit's abig room
[12:27] <silv3r_m00n> hmm
[12:27] <ActionParsnip2> Dabian: whats that?
[12:27] <Dabian> (Which i don't know if is included in ubuntu)
[12:28] <b1n42y> njk, type the first few letters of persons name than tab than your message
[12:28] <Dabian> ActionParsnip2: Well, in Sys V unix .. "killall" was a tad more "intuitive", lol
[12:28] <ActionParsnip2> Dabian: i try to stick to stuff thats universal so i dont have to relearn a whole load of stuff if i get on a new system
[12:28] <b1n42y> njk, tab till you get correct name
[12:28] <njk> rrplay: cool
[12:28] <rrplay> njk: some one else had same problem and downgradied yhat one package back to previous versio and good to go this wa 2 days ago
[12:28] <Dabian> ActionParsnip2: IIRC "killall" *would* kill all processes. :)
[12:29] <njk> network-manager package?
[12:29] <njk> rrplay: networkmanager package
[12:29] <ActionParsnip2> Dabian: well, the processes owned by the user
[12:29] <rrplay> njk: yep
[12:29] <b1n42y> njk, rrplay , try wicd if you have issues with NM
[12:29] <Dabian> ActionParsnip2: I think it would ignore arguements .. yes, processes it could kill .. I don't think it was SUID, lol.
[12:29] <njk> rrplay: tried that too :( no use
[12:29] <eldenz> is ubuntu64.local supposed to be an alias to localhost?
[12:29] <Dabian> ActionParsnip2: Not as default, anyhow. :)
[12:29] <ActionParsnip2> Dabian: oh thatd be fun to watch :D
[12:30] <danniz> anything I should be worried about when doing my do-release-upgrade on hardy server to intrepid? :)
[12:30] <rrplay> bin42y thanks
[12:30] <ActionParsnip2> danniz: should be fine, why are you upgrading?
[12:30] <blankthemuffin> How would I go about making an iso extracted to a usb flash drive bootable?
[12:30] <ActionParsnip2> !usb | blankthemuffin
[12:30] <danniz> need more up to date software, like the svn 1.5 and such
[12:30] <ActionParsnip2> blankthemuffin: its a bit more involved that that
[12:30] <b1n42y> ActionParsnip2, damn your quick
[12:30] <danniz> plus I love to have all apps up to date heh
[12:31] <ActionParsnip2> !upgrade | danniz
[12:31] <b1n42y> nice
[12:31] <ActionParsnip2> danniz: use the cli update and you'll be fine
[12:31] <Dabian> ActionParsnip2: I guess the fun part was to come from an BSD-like system, and then logging in as root on a production system with system V, and try to do something like "killall lpd" because the printer was going nuts, lol.
[12:31] <jrib> danniz: you're probably not use the right distro if you value bleeding-edge over stability imo
[12:31] <ActionParsnip2> danniz: make sure you read stuff when its starts talking about overwriting conf files with the new version / keep old version
[12:31] <danniz> intrepid ain't that far out on the bleed is it =)
[12:32] <b1n42y> danniz, cough fedora updates alot...
[12:32] <ikonia> danniz: no
[12:32] <ikonia> danniz: most things it's pretty up to date
[12:32] <ActionParsnip2> i'd take community over bleeding edge
[12:32] <b1n42y> same
[12:33] <ActionParsnip2> but i get  bit of both in gentoo :)
[12:33] <echo_mirage> (ssh problem) my private keys' passphrases are not accepted, once the keys are in ~/.ssh/id_rsa. i cant even change them then. but when the keys are in another folder, the passphrases seem correct. please help
[12:33] <danniz> yea exactly, plus I love ubuntu since I switched from debian years ago. so never looking into other dists. for a long time
[12:33] <danniz> + the forums are great for help and irc.. win win :)
[12:33] <silv3r_m00n> what are the new improvements in karmic koala ?
[12:33] <becomingGuru> Hi... I upgraded firefox today, -- from the repos and all my bookmarks, history seems to have broken :(
[12:33] <b1n42y> ActionParsnip2, gentoo... for experienced linuxi
[12:33] <danniz> thanks ActionParsnip2  will read
[12:34] <ActionParsnip2> silv3r_m00n: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2009-February/000536.html
[12:34] <danniz> luckely softlayer has console access if something would go wrong :]
[12:34] <becomingGuru> did anyone upgrade latest today's firefox ubuntu release??
[12:34] <ActionParsnip2> b1n42y: yeah, i think its fun
[12:34] <ActionParsnip2> becomingGuru: yep i got it
[12:35] <blankthemuffin> ah sweet thanks ActionParsnip2
[12:35] <Andry_WorkZ> anybody know how to change permission for a file created as ROOT so I can access/copy/delete it like a normal user?
[12:35] <becomingGuru> ActionParsnip2: Did it break for U?
[12:35] <jrib> Andry_WorkZ: where?
[12:35] <ActionParsnip2> becomingGuru: not yet
[12:35] <Myrtti> Andry_WorkZ: sudo chown user:user
[12:35] <Andry_WorkZ> jrib: /root
[12:35] <Myrtti> Andry_WorkZ: hrm
[12:35] <jrib> Andry_WorkZ: why?
[12:35] <Myrtti> Andry_WorkZ: why?
[12:35] <danniz> hehe
[12:35] <cooldduuudde> Andry_Work gksudo nautilus
[12:36] <mgolisch> why do you need to do stuff to files in /root
[12:36] <becomingGuru> This is why Linux SUCKS
[12:36] <mgolisch> you should not need to do that
[12:36] <Andry_WorkZ> Myrtti:I created it with a program launched with root privileges
[12:36] <ActionParsnip2> Andry_WorkZ: ls -l <folder> will tell you the owner and group owner of the folder, you could add yourself to the owning group to get access
[12:36] <jrib> becomingGuru: rants to /dev/null
[12:36] <ActionParsnip2> becomingGuru: its FOSS, no SLA, no warranty
[12:36] <ikonia> becomingGuru: firefox is not linux
[12:36] <b1n42y> ActionParsnip2, yeah im in the same boat but further down stream i get excited when i type cal in terminal
[12:36] <ikonia> becomingGuru: pleaes don't rant - and certainly don't rant if you don't know what you're saying
[12:36] <becomingGuru> suddenly an "upgrade" from package repos breaks everything
[12:36] <Andry_WorkZ> ActionParsnip2: -rw root root
[12:37] <ligth> .tin.it
[12:37] <ActionParsnip2> Andry_WorkZ: hmm, not so useful
[12:37] <ActionParsnip2> Andry_WorkZ: you could leave it as is and use sudo / gksudo when you need to write to it
[12:37] <becomingGuru> ikonia: I know what I am saying... I upgraded via package repos today and everything suddenly broke
[12:37] <ActionParsnip2> Andry_WorkZ: or use sudo -i   while you manipulate it.
[12:38] <ikonia> becomingGuru: "everything" ?
[12:38] <ikonia> becomingGuru: what exactly broke
[12:38] <becomingGuru> Firefox,
[12:38] <ActionParsnip2> becomingGuru: try the linux .tar.gz of firefox on the official site
[12:38] <Andry_WorkZ> ActionParsnip2: I just wanted to freely modify/copy/delete that file using GUI, not terminal
[12:38] <ActionParsnip2> becomingGuru: can you expand on "broken"
[12:39] <ikonia> becomingGuru: that's not everything, thats the package you're upgrading not working properly
[12:39] <ActionParsnip2> Andry_WorkZ: gksudo nautilus
[12:39] <becomingGuru> ActionParsnip2: Tried that too... Yea... all the history, bookmarks, and autocmplete and cookies are gone
[12:39] <Andry_WorkZ> ActionParsnip2: ok thanks :)
[12:39] <ActionParsnip2> becomingGuru: ok so firefox works its your settings that are faulty or not being read
[12:39] <becomingGuru> ikonia: How do I go back to the older package?
[12:40] <ikonia> becomingGuru: well - I don't think that will make a difference
[12:40] <ActionParsnip2> becomingGuru: if you can give details like that off the bat it can speed things up
[12:40] <ikonia> becomingGuru: if your "history" is gone - I suspect your .mozilla directory is having a problem
[12:40] <becomingGuru> ActionParsnip2: I dont think so, as even otherwise, it is crashing every 2 minutes
[12:41] <ActionParsnip2> becomingGuru: try closing all firefoxes, renaming ~/.mozilla then rerunning firefox
[12:41] <ActionParsnip2> becomingGuru: if it runs ok, yor profile is faulty
[12:41] <Aberration> Hi all!
[12:41] <ActionParsnip2> *your
[12:41] <bruce__> hi all
[12:41] <becomingGuru> ActionParsnip2: Ok i tried renaming /etc/firefox and running ff... but it dint work
[12:42] <ActionParsnip2> becomingGuru: we rename so we can rollback
[12:42] <ActionParsnip2> no thats not what i said
[12:42] <Iceman_B^Ltop> does anyone know how I can set up irssi so that I take a certain nickname when connecting to a specified server >
[12:42] <Iceman_B^Ltop> ?
[12:42] <bruce__> Help please
[12:42] <Iceman_B^Ltop> instead of the main nick ?
[12:42] <sirc> -it
[12:42] <becomingGuru> now.. I will try renaming .mozilla
[12:42] <Aberration> When I got a CD/DVD in my player, the disk keeps turning (every seconds) even if I don't use it... I don't know how to stop that without removing the didk!
[12:42] <Aberration> disk*
[12:42] <becomingGuru> But suddenly how will the filesystem have a problem for reading? I dont get it?
[12:42] <ActionParsnip2> becomingGuru: you will need to rename whatever you did in /etc back to what it should be
[12:42] <ikonia> Iceman_B^Ltop: try #irrsi
[12:43] <becomingGuru> ActionParsnip2: Ok will do that too
[12:43] <ActionParsnip2> becomingGuru: because you are renaming random stuff. I never told you to touch anything in /etc
[12:43] <Psuedo> Can someone please try uninstalling then installing rkhunter? - As I am getting the following error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/127196
[12:43] <ActionParsnip2> becomingGuru: renaming system criticl stuff doesnt suddenly make things work, it will break them
[12:43] <bruce__> hello can i get some help in here very newbi
[12:43] <ubuntistas> does anybody know when the new version of amsn will be released?
[12:43] <ActionParsnip2> becomingGuru: read the instruction and follw
[12:43] <Iceman_B^Ltop> ikonia: tnx
[12:44] <Myrtti> bruce__: just ask your question, if someone can answer, they will
[12:44] <ActionParsnip2> ubuntistas: you may find a 3rd party repo with it on, or you could compile
[12:44] <idefine> is there anyway to enable the network manager applet for not just wirelss, I have 2 lans, which are both greyed out, but I can connected to a wifi network using the network manager applet, any ideas? Thanks. (intrepid)
[12:45] <ActionParsnip2> becomingGuru: you could also try: sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get --reinstall install firefox
[12:45] <mgolisch> idefine: the wired interfaces are probably configured using the interfaces file
[12:45] <mgolisch> idefine: networkamanager ignores those
[12:45] <bruce__> ok ta right got ubuntu 8.10 working fine with nvidia drivers on computer monitor but when i change to my tv missing screen edges changed res but no help
[12:45] <becomingGuru> ActionParsnip2: Tried sudo aptitude remove firefox and sudo aptitude install firefox... it should be the same right?
[12:46] <becomingGuru> BTW, tried renaming .mozilla and opened it... No luck, problem only worsens
[12:46] <ikonia> becomingGuru: how did it get worse
[12:46] <idefine> mgolisch: fair enough, the problem is that I am trying to vpn using vpnc, and if I don't connect to the wireless it won't let me connect to the vpn, it thinks there is no connection?
[12:46] <b1n42y> mgolisch, thats not correct
[12:47] <becomingGuru> It says assertion failed for search each time I enter a url
[12:47] <ActionParsnip2> becomingGuru: same thing, make sure you run sudo apt-get clean first, remove the old deb file
[12:47] <idefine> mgolisch: removing the configurations from my interfaces file should let me use the network manager then correct?
[12:48] <mgolisch> idefine: yeah should atleast
[12:48] <becomingGuru> ActionParsnip2: Where will I find the .deb file?
[12:48] <bruce__> hello can i get some help in here very newbi
[12:48] <ActionParsnip2> becomingGuru: you dont need to know, just run: sudo apt-gte clean to remove the old file from the cache which will force the system to download a fresh one from the repo
[12:48] <ActionParsnip2> *get
[12:49] <becomingGuru> ok
[12:49] <Myrtti> bruce__: ask?
[12:49] <becomingGuru> I did this: sudo apt-get --reinstall install firefox
[12:49] <becomingGuru> Still no use... :(
[12:49] <bruce__> did so guess the answer no then
[12:49] <Myrtti> bruce__: you can repeat your question every once in a while
[12:50] <bruce__> part of desktop missing when i use my tv for monitor
[12:50] <ActionParsnip2> becomingGuru: run firefox from a terminal and use it, when it crashes, firefox will output intelligent data to the terminal which may help
[12:50] <becomingGuru> ActionParsnip2: Yea, fine... Will try that...
[12:51] <bruce_> got ubuntu 8.10 working fine with nvidia drivers on computer monitor but when i change to my tv missing screen edges changed res but no help
[12:52] <becomingGuru> But firefox always runs in the background.... even if I say firefox... How do I force it to run in the terminal? By Alt+F2?
[12:52] <becomingGuru> Ok will try that
[12:52] <ActionParsnip2> bruce_: what connection are you using for the tv?
[12:52] <bruce_> dvi to hdmi
[12:52] <ActionParsnip2> becomingGuru: open a terminal, type firefox and press enter
[12:53] <rrplay> bruce_:: look here  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=98456
[12:54] <gldtn> good morning all
[12:54] <ActionParsnip2> bruce_: try to provide maximum information and you'll get better / quicker help
[12:55] <Stylee> something weird happened, I booted from live CD and network worked.... I shutdown the PC, and later when rebooted it didn't work anymore, even after few reboots... what could be wrong?
[12:55] <dronix> hello
[12:55] <becomingGuru> http://paste.ubuntu.com/127203/ This is the stacktrace, from the firefox prompt
[12:56] <ActionParsnip2> Style: what if you run: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[12:56] <b1n42y> Stylee, wireless?
[12:56] <Stylee> thanks, will try
[12:56] <gldtn> Stylee, how are you connecting? wired or wireless?
[12:56] <Stylee> b1n42y: no
[12:56]  * Debolaz wish ubuntu would work with his openvpn network. :(
[12:56] <Psuedo> Can someone please try uninstalling then installing rkhunter? - As I am getting the following error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/127196
[12:56] <ActionParsnip2> Stylee: also try: sudo ifup eth0
[12:56] <Stylee> gldtn: wired
[12:56] <ActionParsnip2> !vpn | Debolaz
[12:57] <Xpistos> Hey fellas I could use a little help. I need to mount a network share as my music drive so I can access it like it was just another folder on my local box. Any Ideas? Everything I find says just to mount it, but some of my programs can't read read the drives mounted this way
[12:57] <ActionParsnip2> Xpistos: smbmount
[12:57] <Psuedo> !smb
[12:57] <Debolaz> ActionParsnip2: Setting it up works just fine, it just won't send any data once its connected, giving me "write to TUN/TAP : Invalid argument (code=22)" errors and the only google reference I found was a german that experienced the same problem and had gotten no answer on how to solve it.
[12:58] <ActionParsnip2> Debolaz: maybe you need some route commands
[12:58] <b1n42y> Psuedo, sounds like corrupt install file
[12:58] <Psuedo> I am having some trouble install RKHunter, Can someone please try uninstalling then installing rkhunter? - As I am getting the following error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/127196
[12:58] <b1n42y> erm looks
[12:58] <Psuedo> Can you please try uninstalling then installing rkhunter?
[12:58] <gldtn> paste on pastebin.com your: ifconfig eth0
[12:58] <becomingGuru> Ok, yea, actually I did a fresh install by renaming .moz again and it worked well. Thanks. But now my cache, history, bookmarks seems to have lost
[12:58] <Psuedo> !pastebin
[12:59] <b1n42y> Psuedo, i checked the pastebin hash fails , thats corrupt package in my opinion
[12:59] <gldtn> Stylee,  paste on pastebin.com your: ifconfig eth0
[12:59] <ActionParsnip2> becomingGuru: try deleting the current .mozilla and rename back the original
[13:00] <Xpistos> ActionParsnip2: I will check it out see if that works
[13:00] <Stylee> gldtn: this is on another PC
[13:00] <Debolaz> ActionParsnip2: Possibly, maybe the openvpn extension to the gnome network manager doesn't understand pushing.
[13:00] <Stylee> ActionParsnip2: unknown interface wth0 :(
[13:01] <Stylee> eth*
[13:01] <bm> hey
[13:01] <gldtn> Stylee, its eth0, not wth0
[13:01] <ActionParsnip2> Stylee: ok what interface names do you have in ifconfig
[13:02] <arvind_khadri> hi, i get Operation not permitted when i try to do a chown for a folder. how do i come over that?
[13:02] <gldtn> oops typo i see
[13:02] <user_> DANIEL
[13:03] <Stylee> it seems it doesn't see my card anymore
[13:03] <user_> wie geht es dir
[13:04] <ActionParsnip2> Stylee: try: lshw -C network
[13:04] <gldtn> Stylee, do you know what card it is?
[13:05] <Stylee> gldtn: it is an onboard card on GA-ex58-ud4p
[13:06] <ActionParsnip2> Stylee: is it enabled in bios? do you see data lights flashing on the back?
[13:06] <ActionParsnip2> Stylee: you could read:   dmesg | less to see whats going on
[13:07] <Stylee> ActionParsnip2: so for lshw it says network disabled... and yes I see leds on back
[13:07] <becomingGuru> ActionParsnip2: Thanks.. It dint work, I will try around a lil bit more.. But the Linux Community Rocks! I retract my earlier frustrated statement..
[13:08] <fdsae> how do i boot to desktop from command line?
[13:08] <ActionParsnip2> becomingGuru: you could rebuild a new profile if it gets long in the tooth
[13:08] <ActionParsnip2> fdsae: startx
[13:08] <becomingGuru> ActionParsnip2: Yea, thats it, Perhaps I am gonna have to rebuild the profile...
[13:08] <ActionParsnip2> becomingGuru: keep our old one just in case
[13:09] <becomingGuru> Is there anyway I can install FF 3.1 Beta 2 from the ubuntu repos?
[13:09] <foo_> g
[13:09] <Huufarted> Can anybody tell me what the 'System Setting' checkbox is when editing a network connection in the network manager?
[13:09] <Psuedo> I am having some trouble install RKHunter, Can someone please try uninstalling then installing RKHunter? - As I am getting the following error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/127196
[13:09] <endial> Anyone know how to use wine well?
[13:09] <gldtn> Stylee, what did you get with; sudo lshw -C network
[13:10] <Huufarted> becomingGuru: I doubt it.  Ubuntu repositories are for the stable builds.
[13:10] <v0lksman> is there a fix for pulse dying after time on intrepid?  it just stops working after a few hours...
[13:10] <fdsae> it gave me some bs about a server error
[13:10] <fdsae> anyway around that
[13:10] <Klaz168> endial, what r u trying to do?
[13:10] <fdsae> or maybe a dif command
[13:10] <ActionParsnip2> becomingGuru: http://betabuild.wordpress.com/2008/12/22/how-to-install-firefox-31-beta-2-on-ubuntu-810-intrepid-ibex/
[13:10] <gldtn> Stylee, did you get a line that said product: RTL-8169 Gigabit Ethernet or something similar?
[13:10] <becomingGuru> ActionParsnip2: Oh cool!
[13:10] <ActionParsnip2> becomingGuru: http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2008/04/03/install-firefox-3-beta-5-in-ubuntu-with-one-command/
[13:10] <ActionParsnip2> becomingGuru: if you want beta 5
[13:10] <Huufarted> becomingGuru: like ActionParsnip2 said, it will have to be done not through the official repositories.
[13:11] <endial> Klaz168: trying to install a game and when i try to start I scroll to the bottom of user agreement and the agree button will not activate
[13:11] <DJones> endial: It might be worth you asking in #winehq, the people there will probably be the best ones to help with installing/configuring wine and any applications
[13:11] <Klaz168> endial, did u check that game on wine appdb?
[13:11] <Stylee> gldtn: no
[13:11] <ActionParsnip2> endial: try pressing tab and using space to tick the box
[13:11] <Stylee> I will try to do something else
[13:12] <endial> Klaz168: its world of warcraft its gold i believe
[13:12] <Schok> i messed up my ubuntu trying the mac4lin conversion, now i log in into ubuntu thru CLI..no gui at all from bootup..can someone help me?
[13:12] <ActionParsnip2> endial: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WorldofWarcraft
[13:12] <haptiK> hi all - i haver desktop cube enabled in compiz but its only switching flipping between two windows i see no cube effect
[13:12] <ActionParsnip2> endial: WoW needs someaptches to wine i think, the guide will help
[13:13] <gldtn> Stylee, sudo cat /var/log/messages | grep eth1
[13:13] <bazhang> haptiK, install ccsm and set it there
[13:13] <b1n42y> haptiK, you need 4 workspaces
[13:13] <ActionParsnip2> haptiK: run ccsm, in general change desktop width from 2 to 4
[13:13] <gldtn> Stylee, change eth1 to eth0
[13:13] <bazhang> haptiK, under general settings virtual horizontal desktops
[13:13] <ActionParsnip2> !cube | haptiK
[13:13] <b1n42y> ActionParsnip2, ha! beat you for ince
[13:13] <b1n42y> once*
[13:13] <ActionParsnip2> b1n42y: hehe
[13:13] <Schok> how do i start gnome desktop thru CLI?
[13:14] <ActionParsnip2> Schok: sudo gdm start
[13:14] <Schok> is that the same as startx?
[13:14] <ActionParsnip2> Schok: gdm will take you to the login manager i believe, startx will give you desktop as the current user
[13:15] <DrHalan> what is the branch-adress for a package located on launchpad?
[13:16] <zorglu_> q. i would like to install jre for firefox, i installed openjdk-6-jre but firefox doesnt see anything in about:plugins, where should i look ?
[13:16] <Psuedo> I am having some trouble install RKHunter, Can someone please try uninstalling then installing RKHunter? - As I am getting the following error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/127196
[13:16] <Schok> ok thanks, i will try it out
[13:17] <glitsj16> zorglu_: you need a plugin for firefox, not a jre ... like sun-java6-plugin for example
[13:17] <Psuedo> What would you recommend I use for yacc?
[13:17] <gldtn> Stylee, did you get anything? what was the last line?
[13:17] <b1n42y> Psuedo, remove completely and download again
[13:17] <zorglu_> glitsj16: tahnks trying
[13:17] <Psuedo> tried that b1n42y
[13:17] <Flynsarmy> How do i export nautilus bookmarks?
[13:17] <b1n42y> Psuedo, not just uninstall
[13:18] <arvind_khadri> whatever folders i create are being owned by root?
[13:18] <Psuedo> What would you recommend I use for yacc?
[13:18] <danniz> Psuedo: install it manually it's not that hard
[13:18] <sipior> Psuedo: bison?
[13:19] <Psuedo> thx
[13:19] <Psuedo> danniz... alright
[13:21] <vladuz976> i have a GeForce 9800 GTX(G92), how do i find out if that is supported in ubuntu?
[13:22] <arvind_khadri> whatever folders i create are being owned by root? this is weird behaviour.... and the drives that have been mounted are owned by root.. how do i change it?
[13:22] <SuPeRhAm1> vladuz976: http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us
[13:22] <SuPeRhAm1> see it comes up there
[13:22] <arvind_khadri> !nvidia | vladuz976
[13:23] <vladuz976> superhaml thanks
[13:23] <Travis-42> is there support for blackberries or iphones in ubuntu?
[13:23] <vladuz976> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsVideoCardsNvidia
[13:23] <vladuz976> this says no 3d
[13:23] <vladuz976> too bad
[13:24] <ikonia> Travis-42: blackberry support in linux is very bad due to rim using their own internal methods
[13:24] <zorglu_> glitsj16: i installed sun-java6-plugin but firefox doesnt see anything, in about:plugin or in page using java, any idea ?
[13:24] <ikonia> Travis-42: there is an alpha product bit it is very hit and miss, and very limited
[13:24] <Travis-42> ikonia: oh :-/.  Is it the same for the iphone?
[13:24] <ikonia> Travis-42: no idea about the iphone, I only know the blackberry because I looked into it
[13:25] <Travis-42> I need a new phone, but I'd like to be able to hook it up to my computer :-)
[13:25] <glitsj16> zorglu_: have you restarted firefox after finishing the install ?
[13:25] <zorglu_> glitsj16: i did
[13:25] <Travis-42> ok well thank you ikonia
[13:25] <glitsj16> zorglu_: are you on 32-bit ubuntu ?
[13:25] <arvind_khadri> Travis-42, heard about the free-runner from openmoko?
[13:25] <zorglu_> glitsj16: i am
[13:26] <glitsj16> zorglu_: weird, any other java related plugins active in firefox ?
[13:26] <zorglu_> glitsj16: nope only flash
[13:26] <Psuedo> Is anyone here using Jaunty?
[13:27] <zorglu_> glitsj16: im guessing the firefox doesnt look in the good directory
[13:27] <Travis-42> arvind_khadri: yea, it's a good idea, but I don't think it's right for me yet
[13:27] <Psuedo> Is anyone here using Ubuntu Jaunty?
[13:27] <arvind_khadri> Travis-42, :) ok
[13:28] <vladuz976> Psuedo: no, but i am thinking about it. how is it? buggy?
[13:28] <vtec> how would I get out of full screen on the terminal server
[13:28]  * dronix is away: I'm busy
[13:29] <Psuedo> I'm not useing it...
[13:29] <aaron__> i have a question about ram
[13:29] <Psuedo> I'm not using it... vladuz976
[13:29] <vtec> how would I get out of full screen on the terminal server?
[13:29] <Psuedo> Anyone using Ubuntu Intrepid or above? If so, can I please have your .bashrc?
[13:29] <arvind_khadri> whatever folders i create are being owned by root? this is weird behaviour.... and the drives that have been mounted are owned by root.. how do i change it?
[13:30] <glitsj16> zorglu_: could be, there's a key in about:config you can activate to get the location paths of installed plugins shown in the about:plugins page, filter for plugin and set expose_full_path to true to help you track down the paths
[13:30] <zorglu_> glitsj16: it was the case of the dir
[13:30] <or4n_> Psuedo: i
[13:30] <aaron__> i have 8 gb of ram but my computer will only recognize 2.7. how can i make it recognize all 8 gigs
[13:30] <glitsj16> zorglu_: nice that's fixed
[13:30] <zorglu_> glitsj16: thanks for the tips i will. i was aware of this tips
[13:30] <Pici> Psuedo: /etc/skel/.bashrc will have the default .bashrc
[13:30] <or4n_> Psuedo: typo... was gonna say that i'm gonna try it later today
[13:31] <glitsj16> zorglu_: ok, enjoy the browsing
[13:31] <Psuedo> Pici: Using a very modified version of Ubuntu, doesn't have that file
[13:31] <adante> hi, if i cannot boot from the livecd is there another way to install ubuntu?
[13:32] <Rencx> how i can mount 8gb iso?
[13:32] <aaron__> does any one know how i can make my computer recognize more ram
[13:32] <zorglu_> glitsj16: all that to upload picture on facebook :) thanks for your help
[13:32] <Pici> Psuedo: http://pastebin.com/f226209e8
[13:32] <Rencx> !mount
[13:33] <Rencx> what comand i must use to mount iso image file??
[13:33] <DeVilDeMonde> I've lost all sound in ubuntu... :(
[13:33] <arvind_khadri> Pici, whatever folders i create are being owned by root? this is weird behaviour.... and the drives that have been mounted are owned by root.. how do i change it?
[13:33] <bazhang> !iso > Rencx
[13:33] <Oni_of_z_AsH> Hi guys! Im a newbie on java wireless. Im trying to connect a mobile phone (wifi enabled) to a computer where i can send a text to a computer via socket programming. The program works fine in emulator (wireless toolkit CLDC) but on mobile phone the connection nevers happens..y? Can any1 suggest...
[13:34] <DeVilDeMonde> Can somebody help me fix it? When i go to test my sound I get the following error "audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink: Failed to connect: Connection refused"
[13:34] <Psuedo> just did a sudo dpkg -i *.deb in a folder with almost 200 .deb, this is going to be a long night!
[13:35] <vladuz976> i have / on a separate partition, during install i can just install to that and leave /home untouched. that correct? so i can keep all my settings
[13:36] <Rencx> bazhang: it can it mount 8GB?
[13:38] <drostie> Um, to follow some instructions on wiki.ubuntu.com (specifically https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/ToshibaPortegeM700) I need to have a ServerLayout section in my xorg.conf, but ubuntu's default install didn't seem to generate one. What do I do with that?
[13:38] <Pici> Rencx: It shouldnt care what size the iso is.
[13:39] <X_FILES> anyone know if it is possible to use  gnomad2 with Ubuntu live USB ?
[13:39] <vtec> how i can exit of full screen on terminal server?
[13:39] <theCarpenter> vtec: logout or exit
[13:40] <DeVilDeMonde> Anybody know how i can get my sound back?
[13:40] <theCarpenter> vtec: ctrl-f7 if you accidentally went out of the xsession by hitting ctrlf1 or something
[13:40] <remoteCTRL> when rebooting the pc automount is not being started, no errors or anything else in dmesg, any help appreciated
[13:41] <DeVilDeMonde> gonna try a reboot
[13:42] <X_FILES> devil is your sound manager workin?
[13:42] <jose__> hola a todos
[13:42] <drostie> X_Files: Devil just left
[13:42] <jose__> alguien tiene blackberry
[13:42] <bazhang> !es
[13:42] <X_FILES> yep :)
[13:42] <drostie> 'kay. Just making sure you saw. ^_^
[13:42] <theCarpenter> Spanish? on MY internets?
[13:42] <ash_gfm> common solutions for 500
[13:42] <X_FILES> how do you answer to someone with is nickname lol?
[13:43] <X_FILES> i have to write it -_-
[13:43] <MK13> hey, any body in here know what could have caused this to happen during an update "http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/2061/screenshot3k.png"?
[13:43] <drostie> remoteCTRL: What exactly do you mean by "automount is not being started"...?
[13:43] <Pici> !tab | X_FILES
[13:43] <ash_gfm> This application gives incremental, temporally grouped CPU usage data on processes, allowing the user ***BUZZZ*** Why is my computer slow?
[13:44] <X_FILES> Pici tanx a lot =)
[13:44] <ash_gfm> Right! - so, hi, I have slow downs, is there a daemon running or something I can check that logs, in multiple ways, what the hell is running on my machine, so if I doorbell it, I can go back and see what was raping my rig?
[13:44] <subaeroux> hi
[13:44] <drostie> MK13: a bad download of the .deb file, or a poorly packaged .deb could maybe cause that sort of error.
[13:44] <subaeroux> how do i get audio working in ubuntu 8.10
[13:44] <ash_gfm> I suspect it is just the fail-amusement-park that is  firefox release 3, but might be nautilus
[13:44] <remoteCTRL> drostie: i have network mounted home directories, that are being controlled by an ldap database, autofs does this nomrally but in this case ps aux says there is nothing rrunning
[13:44] <subaeroux> using creative drivers
[13:44] <ash_gfm> I am running a 800mb vm too :/
[13:44] <subaeroux> hardware rather
[13:45] <remoteCTRL> drostie: rc.0 to rc5.d say autofs is on S19...
[13:45] <drostie> MK13: You can try downloading the .deb package direct from packages.ubuntu.com and installing it by clicking on it.
[13:45] <X_FILES> subaeroux did you set your sound manager?
[13:45] <MK13> drostie: i downloaded it multiple times and it isnt just that package that was messed up, and i tried a .deb i already had and knew was good
[13:45] <subaeroux> i have unmuted turned up everything
[13:45] <subaeroux> its using alsamixer
[13:45] <X_FILES> ok
[13:45] <kuban> #ubuntu.pl
[13:45] <r3dux> ash - have you got 3D acceleration working in VirtualBox?
[13:45] <subaeroux> under 3 cards
[13:45] <subaeroux> pulseaudio
[13:46] <X_FILES> yes
[13:46] <subaeroux> ca0106
[13:46] <subaeroux> and some onboard
[13:46] <subaeroux> via
[13:46] <drostie> M13, remoteCTRL: I really don't know enough to handle either of your questions, sorry. :-\
[13:46] <subaeroux> ive swithced the ca to card position 0
[13:46] <remoteCTRL> drostie: thats ok, dude thanks for the attempt though
[13:47] <subaeroux> but no sound
[13:47] <X_FILES> subaeroux i installed a program called pulseaudio where i can manage output sound card
[13:47] <subaeroux> see in alsamixer it comes up with pulseaudio
[13:47] <subaeroux> as the chipset
[13:47] <Oni_of_z_AsH> ubuntu doesn't turn off my pc well. only hard disk gets shut down..fans still running..can any1 suggest y?
[13:47] <subaeroux> but if u go
[13:47] <subaeroux> alsamixer -c 0
[13:48] <X_FILES> ok me too weird
[13:48] <subaeroux> then the chipset is ca0106
[13:48] <remoteCTRL> how do i find out wha an application that is listen in rcX.d has not been started? dmesg and syslog say 0,0...
[13:48] <remoteCTRL> gosh sry 4 syntax..
[13:48] <r3dux> Oni_of_z_AsH, fans can keep going if something is overheating... tho that might not be the case. ACPI issue?
[13:49] <X_FILES> now im using ubuntu on usb working good =)
[13:49] <subaeroux> so what would u suggest
[13:49] <subaeroux> in terms of sound
[13:50] <X_FILES> is the sound working from the live cd ?
[13:50] <subaeroux> its installed on the hdd
[13:50] <subaeroux> ubuntu i.e.
[13:50] <subaeroux> the sounds not outputting at all
[13:51] <LordMetroid> Anyone else had any problem with the last update that included Firefox?
[13:51] <LordMetroid> Cause Firefox stopped showing anything but the frame
[13:51] <X_FILES> ok  it goes beyond  my knowledge sry
[13:52] <LordMetroid> Maybe I ought to install Internet Explorer :D
[13:52] <LordMetroid> lol
[13:52] <Debolaz> Hey LordMetroid.
[13:52] <LordMetroid> Debolaz, ... Hello, didn't expect you here
[13:52] <X_FILES> LordMetroid try creating another account but save your bookmark before
[13:52] <rrplay> remoteCTRL: do want to check all running processes ?? top  or htop  or for net see netstat
[13:53] <LordMetroid> X_FILES, what?
[13:53] <LordMetroid> X_FILES, in firefox? Cause I have no menues in Firefox
[13:53] <X_FILES> LordMetroid did you tried the safe mode without plugins ??
[13:53] <remoteCTRL> rrplay:  err... nope i want to check wha a specific application is NOT being startet at boottime
[13:54] <LordMetroid> X_FILES, how do I do that?
[13:54] <X_FILES> hum i know how to but only in windoze xD
[13:54] <rrplay> remoteCTRL:  ok hang on a sec
[13:54] <LordMetroid> nm -safe-mode of course
[13:54] <remoteCTRL> rrplay: sure, thanks
[13:54] <X_FILES> LordMetroid ok i didnt know
[13:55] <r3dux> LordMetroid, I've had Firefox issues with upgrades in the past and it was ALWAYS down to my "add-ons"
[13:55] <X_FILES> yea me too
[13:55] <r3dux> Disable all add-ons, reinstall one at a time
[13:55] <LordMetroid> r3dux, can I do that from the command line?
[13:55] <X_FILES> im using firefox 2.0.20
[13:55] <shadeslayer> hi i cant get my CD to mount
[13:55] <shadeslayer> re scanning gives me a error
[13:55] <Psuedo> MK13: That's one heck of a theme!
[13:56] <miles_> Hi there, could anyone point me to a tutorial explaining how to customize an alternate cd?
[13:56] <r3dux> LordMetroid, I don't know about commandline, you can find your add-ons directory and rename it tho....
[13:56] <MK13> Psuedo: thnx
[13:56] <Psuedo> Pici: Thanks
[13:56] <r3dux> Might be called "plugins" - who knows.
[13:56]  * Psuedo says bye
[13:56] <shadeslayer> so basically i want to force mount the CD
[13:56] <shadeslayer> -e whats that??
[13:57] <r3dux> What's an alternate cd?
[13:57] <Pici> !modes > shadeslayer
[13:57] <X_FILES> LordMetroid you can either create a new account by erasing the current one!
[13:57] <rrplay> remoteCTRL:  a package i remembered call bum   boot up manager
[13:57] <miles_> alternate install mode, text-based
[13:58] <shadeslayer> Pici: what about my mount issue :(
[13:58] <shadeslayer> ;)
[13:58] <sbornix> hi  ..... there's a repository to get Xfce 4.6 in ubuntu 8.04 ????
[13:58] <r3dux> miles_,  try bartpe
[13:58] <Pici> shadeslayer: I'm barely paying attention to the channel, sorry.
[13:58] <shadeslayer> lol
[13:58] <shadeslayer> np
[13:58] <miles_> r3dux, isn't that for Windows?
[13:58] <remoteCTRL> rrplay: uhuh ok, whats the purpose of that one? because i got the startup links in rc0.d to rcS.d but no matter with what priority, that thing dont start unless i do it manually
[13:59] <r3dux> yes =D
[13:59] <vtec> theCarpenter, thankś
[13:59] <r3dux> If you want to install linux text mode, select text mode from a linux disk..
[13:59] <miles_> I want to _customize_ a linux install from an alternate disc
[14:00] <r3dux> miles_, APTonCD?
[14:00] <X_FILES> is possible to use gnomad2 from a live USB ? it doesnt work in my pc
[14:00] <miles_> No
[14:00] <Pici> miles_: The minimal CD should allow you to pick packages at install time.
[14:00] <Pici> !minimal | miles_
[14:00] <rrplay> remoteCTRL:  you can check and switch too start it or at least check it out if you have not
[14:01] <miles_> I want to modify an install disc, in order to add my own packages or themes and other stuff, then redistribute it
[14:01] <r3dux> miles_,  APTonCD will customise a linux disc. I don't think you're being clear enough if that'd nt what you want.
[14:01] <LordMetroid> Ahaa, I had an old firefox process running and I suppose it was blocking any other new process of using whatever was needed.
[14:02] <miles_> (a PPC version of Ubuntu 8.10)
[14:02] <Vigo> Is Xfce a lighter or less load on resources desktop?
[14:02] <Pici> !remaster | miles_ this may have some information
[14:02] <X_FILES> my windows partition freeze at loading screen with grub anyone know why?
[14:02] <miles_> That's for Live discs, not text-based install - but it's the idea
[14:02] <remoteCTRL> rrplay: umm there is a this command: update-rc.d autofs default 19 that does exactly the job and as said the links are there in rc0.d to rcS.d and the links are pointing to something valid becaus i CAN start autofs manually...
[14:02] <r3dux> LordMetroid, I had exactly the same thing earlier - two firefox windows, not shown on any desktop, was wondering why when I unplugged external sound and used lappy sound it wouldn't change - running process. The cheek...
[14:03] <X_FILES> ubuntu en francais?
[14:03] <r3dux> miles_, you can install ubuntu in text mode.
[14:03] <arvind_khadri> !fr | X_FILES
[14:03] <r3dux> No modification neccessary.
[14:03] <miles_> I know I can.
[14:03] <X_FILES> tanx ubottu =)
[14:03] <r3dux> So wtf? :)
[14:03] <Vigo> X_FILES: Have you tried fix grub?
[14:03] <miles_> Geeze
[14:04] <Pici> r3dux: He wants to remaster an install.
[14:04] <miles_> Thanks Pici :)
[14:04] <rrplay> remoteCTRL:  may have misunderstood your que  sorry
[14:04] <r3dux> So go for it, miles - happy reading.
[14:04] <X_FILES> Vigo i think its a partition   problem since i cant mount the hda1 partion were windows is installed
[14:04] <r3dux> Thanks, Pici.
[14:04] <remoteCTRL> rrplay: hehe its a difficult question, i know... but thanks for trying
[14:05] <miles_> And since it's a PPC version and only has a text-based installation, I can not simply extract the ISO and CHROOT into it
[14:05] <miles_> There's no SquashFS, no ramdisk, no environnement from which to go
[14:05] <bullgard4> What is a 'wallops announcement system'? (See http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml)
[14:05] <rrplay> remoteCTRL:  a wile ago on ultimate i also had   sysv-rc-conf
[14:05] <Vigo> X_Files: Have you tried FDISK to repair the win boot part?
[14:06] <X_FILES> Vigo I did it this morning with the gparted cd so i hope i wont have the freeze again
[14:07] <X_FILES> Vigo i also tried to repair windows with the installation cd but it didnt work weir
[14:07] <Lartza_> Hello. I had some bad experience with Ati + Xorg 7.4 on Fedora. How is the thing in Ubuntu?
[14:08] <Vigo> X_Files: Do that, or do it with the utility in Windows, or the one from Grub. Make sure that the BIOS is set correctly. boot first =? and whatnot.
[14:08] <coreyman> anyone know if there are asus direct console drivers for linux, i want to put ubuntu on my laptop
[14:08] <GnuHDL> Hello, all
[14:08] <miles_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization → got it
[14:08] <r3dux> If you've overwritten the windows mbr on a dual boot system (like I did the other day) use: grub              root (your root and partition) i.e. root (hd0, 0)                                  setup (hd1, 0) {because my linux disk is on the first partition of my 2nd hd)
[14:08] <X_FILES> Vigo ok i did evering you tell i hope its not an hardware problem since my pc is 4 years old lol*
[14:09] <DeVilDeMonde> How do i change from OSS sound drivers to ALSA?
[14:09] <Vigo> X_Files: FDISK can be downloaded from bootdisk.com or whatever you like, but it is also a native part of the DOS system utilities.
[14:10] <coreyman> I thought on linux drivers were bulit into the kernel, how are we able to install drivers?
[14:10] <GnuHDL> I've problem and need a quick help,............I've a 1.8GB P4 with 1GB RAM and 64MB VGA  can I use VM with a windows installed inside the VM in the ubuntu
[14:10] <r3dux> once you've run "grub" run "find /boot/stage1" to get your linux drive's hdX address
[14:10] <Kartagis> coreyman, insmod
[14:10] <r3dux> "find /boot/grub/stage1" -- sorry
[14:11] <X_FILES> Vigo Tank you =) also it happens randomly and only during the xp loading screen maybe  a driver conflict (im using a usb mouse ) ?
[14:11] <DeVilDeMonde> coreyman: Was that directed at me?
[14:11] <coreyman> devildemonde no
[14:11] <kinja-sheep> I'm trying to enable a compiz plugin -- The one that will clear out/resize all windows so i can select which windows to work on?  If you know what I mean?
[14:11] <DeVilDeMonde> coreyman: OK
[14:12] <GnuHDL> Please........I've a 1.8GHz P4 with 1GB RAM and 64MB VGA  can I use VM with a windows installed inside the VM in the ubuntu...
[14:12] <GnuHDL> now I'm in the trouble
[14:12] <GnuHDL> ...
[14:12] <glitsj16> kinja-sheep: could that be the expo plugin ?
[14:12] <Vigo> X_Files: I do not really think that a hardware thing like that could do it, but I could be wrong, that USB device might be in the boot loader section or first device, that could be the error itself.
[14:12] <GnuHDL> this is a way to get rid of the problem is it OK?
[14:13] <kinja-sheep> glitsj16: The ideal is windows, but I looked into that one and it only only displayed all workspaces.
[14:13] <kinja-sheep> Close call. :)
[14:13] <kinja-sheep> But still... No. :'(
[14:14] <DeVilDeMonde> Anybody?
[14:14] <GnuHDL> Please........I've a 1.8GHz P4 with 1GB RAM and 64MB VGA  can I use VM with a windows installed inside the VM in the ubuntu...
[14:14] <GnuHDL>  now I'm in the trouble ...
[14:15] <GnuHDL> this is a way to gid rid of the problem is it OK?
[14:15] <X_FILES> Vigo ill just wait and if it happens again ill certainly reformate my hd
[14:15] <starykomputer> hi
[14:15] <starykomputer> I have weird problem with NX Free, when I connect to other computer I can't use arrow keys from the keyboard, for example print screen is assigned to up arrow. Any ideas what's wrong?
[14:15] <glitsj16> kinja-sheep: don't even see a plugin called 'windows' in ccsm, perhaps you might get more response in #compiz-fusion
[14:16] <GnuHDL> DeVilDeMonde, could you please give me a quick reply if possible?
[14:16] <kinja-sheep> glitsj16: Will try. ;0
[14:16] <glitsj16> kinja-sheep: scale perhaps ? last gamble :)
[14:16] <Vigo> X_FILES: Ok, seems like it would be fun to work on and find the solution, all solutions are good fodder for the forums.
[14:17] <bullgard4> What is a 'wallops announcement system'? (See http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml)
[14:17] <Pici> bullgard4: Please ask in #freenode, this is not Ubuntu related.
[14:17] <bullgard4> Pici: Ok.
[14:17] <DeVilDeMonde> GnuHDL: I have no idea. My best suggestion would be to check VM's sys req
[14:17] <kinja-sheep> glitsj16: That's it!  I found a link too.  It's scale. :)
[14:18] <kinja-sheep> glitsj16: http://techblogger08.wordpress.com/2008/05/25/expose-in-ubuntu/ :)
[14:18] <nex0s> I've got a problem: encrypted Ubuntu is running on, let's call it, hdd1 and i want to install WindowsXP (for gaming) on hdd2, if i install XP now, ubuntu won't boot. Can i simply unplug hdd1 and install Windows o hdd2, then plug hdd1 on again and put windows in my grub conf? will ubuntu still boot?
[14:18] <DeVilDeMonde> Any body know how i can change from OSS sound drivers to ALSA?
[14:18] <kinja-sheep> glitsj16: Thanks. :)
[14:18] <glitsj16> kinja-sheep: great, the expose terminology threw me off (always does that), you're welcome
[14:19] <starykomputer> I have weird problem with NX Free, when I connect to other computer I can't use arrow keys from the keyboard, for example print screen is assigned to up arrow. Any ideas what's wrong?
[14:19] <DeVilDeMonde> over 1400 people in here and nobody can help me change my sound driver over?
[14:19] <r3dux> I can.
[14:19] <r3dux> :)
[14:20] <Lartza_> Does fglrx + Xorg 7.4 work?
[14:20] <nex0s> DeVilDeMonde, remove old, install new
[14:20] <r3dux> DeVilDeMonde, Search for "alsa upgrade script" - run it.
[14:20] <romulo> hi, pidgin is crashing all the time since i updated ubuntu, is that a known issue?
[14:20] <DeVilDeMonde> nex0s: both are installed... I'd just like to dictate which it uses by default.
[14:20] <r3dux> romulo, not for me... downgrade via package manager.
[14:21] <twager> Anyone tell me how I can burn .wav files to show tracknames instead of track1 track2 etc ?
[14:21] <DeVilDeMonde> romulo: I am stable with latest updates
[14:21] <romulo> DeVilDeMonde, using pidgin?
[14:21] <DeVilDeMonde> romulo: Indeed
[14:21] <r3dux> twager, .wav files do not contain track information
[14:21] <DeVilDeMonde> romulo: On it right now.
[14:22] <romulo> strange, even the new version of pidgin (compiled by myself) is crashing
[14:22] <glitsj16> DeVilDeMonde: change settings --> menu system > preferences > sound
[14:22] <r3dux> That could be your problem, romulo..
[14:22] <twager> r3dux: So it is not possible ?
[14:22] <romulo> r3dux, i was using the apt one, and it started crashing all the time, so i recompiled it
[14:22] <romulo> still crashes
[14:22] <r3dux> twager - no. a wav file does not store any meta tags.
[14:22] <DeVilDeMonde> romulo: try completely removing the package and installing fresh...
[14:22] <r3dux> romgo, get the packed ver
[14:23] <romulo> DeVilDeMonde, i will backtrace it, sounds more likely to work
[14:23] <DeVilDeMonde> romulo: use synaptic
[14:23] <twager> r3dux: Thanks  you haved saved me a lot of cd's :-)
[14:23] <DeVilDeMonde> glitsj16: I'll see if i can locate that
[14:23] <r3dux> twager, No worries :)
[14:24] <DeVilDeMonde> glitsj16: Not used to ubuntu
[14:24] <X_FILES> Devildemonde in case your hopeless you can try linux mint based on ubuntu but its including a lot more sound drivers (its even working on a usb drive)
[14:24] <DeVilDeMonde> X_FILES: nah OSS is working, but won't let me use my front mic.
[14:24] <r3dux> But mint is a ubuntu fork, and it won't have the same kind of support standard ubuntu does...
[14:24] <tiredbones> I'm trying to use my iso image to recover my passwd file. When i edit my /etc/passwd I don't see the file i have on my hdd. I suspect that i 'm seeing the file on the image. how do i get at the file on my hdd?
[14:24] <r3dux> You're going out on a limb (in a sense)
[14:25] <glitsj16> DeVilDeMonde: i think that are the correct menu item names, on xfce myself so not 100% sure
[14:25] <Vigo> twager: You could use binary names. .wav 010110 and such, or convert the binary to .wav0204
[14:25] <DeVilDeMonde> glitsj16: nah, no such creature in here... but thanks for trying.
[14:26] <mudit> i need to open a cd image, what software to use in ubuntu ?
[14:26] <r3dux> I was so impressed I created (i.e. install) Vista in a VirtualBox the other day and my wireless network worked straight off the bat
[14:26] <r3dux> That's awesome.
[14:26] <X_FILES> yep =p
[14:27] <wikzo> I need help to installing a Firefox add-on called New Tab King (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/10828). When I open a new tab it just says that it can't find the file "chrome://newtabking/content/newtabking.htm" - I use Ubuntu 8.10 with Firefox 3.0.7
[14:27] <erUSUL> tiredbones: mount te partitioon holding your root filesystem
[14:27] <erUSUL> !iso | mudit
[14:27] <r3dux> That plugin sounds like it's for chrome not firefox.......
[14:28] <mudit> cool !
[14:28] <X_FILES> wikzo did you  tried this addon with an other firefox accoutn?
[14:28] <wikzo> X_FILES: Firefox account? How?
[14:28] <mudit> wikzo: does the addon runs on windows firefox 3.07 ?
[14:28] <r3dux> You can mount .NRG files with -o loop,offset 307200
[14:28] <tiredbones> erUSUL, would the command be,    mount /dev/scd0 /
[14:28] <DeVilDeMonde> glitsj16: found it, again thanks for trying to help.
[14:29] <wikzo> mudit: Haven't tried but I belive so
[14:29] <mudit> it is a .uif image
[14:29] <erUSUL> tiredbones: no; /dev/scd0 is the cdrom not a partition on an hd
[14:29] <glitsj16> DeVilDeMonde: no problem, hope you get things going with ALSA
[14:29] <r3dux> Why are most linux rooms so hostile?
[14:29] <erUSUL> tiredbones: it would be something like « sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sdxy /mnt/ »
[14:29] <mudit> wikzo: is the addon supported for version 3.07
[14:30] <coreyman> i want to put ubuntu on my laptop where do i get started, what type of power management features does ubuntu have.
[14:30] <wikzo> mudit: The website says it works with Firefox: 3.0 – 3.1b2
[14:30] <erUSUL> tiredbones: where x is a,b,c... depending in ehich disk the partition is and y is  1,2,3 etc depending on the partition
[14:30] <X_FILES> wikzo mayby its windows only
[14:30] <r3dux> coreyman, all of them. Dual-Boot ubuntu - it's easy - read up :)
[14:31] <tiredbones> erUSUL, thanks
[14:31] <wikzo> X_FILES: Don't think so. I could install with ease and the site says nothing about Windows only
[14:31] <coreyman> r3dux i got a asus g50 series that has pretty lights on the front and special buttons up top to change performance modes and such, im going to loose their functionality when i switch aren'tI
[14:32] <r3dux> corey - yes.
[14:32] <azlon> what is the program that will give me a bar at the bottom for my programs like Mac OS X?
[14:32] <coreyman> r3dux i already have kubuntu on my desktop.
[14:32] <X_FILES> wikzo some addons doesnt work with linux though since they are not officialy develloped under the gnu license
[14:32] <LaNCeloT_RW> anyone over here with a toshiba laptop ?
[14:32] <coreyman> r3dux j/w about laptop
[14:32] <r3dux> coreyman, you can use the buttons, if you know the command codes
[14:32] <Anarhist> is it possible to make a dump of all the installed packages in the text format somehow?
[14:32] <wikzo> X_FILES: Could you please try to install and see if it works on your machine? https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/10828
[14:32] <r3dux> :)
[14:32] <defrysk> azlon, awn
[14:32] <coreyman> r3dux would it be possible for me to get the id of the button and then make it do something.
[14:33] <azlon> defrysk: thanks
[14:33] <X_FILES> sorry i dont have windows installed =S
[14:33] <r3dux> corey - you can map the keycode to anything you like - that's the joy of an open operating system.
[14:33] <DrHalan> can somebody explain me what this does? i am new to building packages http://paste.ubuntu.com/127249/
[14:33] <Vigo> wikzo: which one is that?
[14:34] <Pici> DrHalan: #ubuntu-motu would probably be of more help
[14:34] <wikzo> Vigo: New Tab King 1.1 https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/10828
[14:34] <coreyman> r3dux how would i know what to map the button to... ie i have a button that turns off my touchpad..
[14:34] <X_FILES> wikzo if you really need this soft i suggest you to create a new account (search on google )
[14:34] <wikzo> X_FILES: Why would a new account make a difference? :S
[14:35] <DrHalan> Pici: okay thank you :)
[14:36] <new-tu> Anyone up for a good tough question?  :)
[14:36] <Vigo> wikzo: Thank you
[14:36] <ariedcumi> cara install ubuntu gimana?
[14:36] <X_FILES> wikzo your new account will be set to the default configuration of firefox (no conflit with other addons )
[14:37] <v0lksman> is there a quick fix to stop Pulseaudio from crashing in intrepid...or at least something I can run to restart it without rebooting?
[14:37] <wikzo> X_FILES: You mean I should try it in safe mode?
[14:37] <wikzo> Vigo: Thanks for what?
[14:37] <X_FILES> wikzo you should if you know how =P
[14:38] <r3dux> corey - http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/misc/6173-how-do-i-find-keycode.html
[14:38] <azlon> defrysk: will sudo apt-get install awn install awn?
[14:38] <X_FILES> wikzo be careful though some extentions are very buggy or too recent
[14:38] <DrHalan> v0lksman: just push alt+f2 and type pulseaudio but normally it shouldn't crash...
[14:38] <Vigo> wikzo: reposting that link, I just logged in and am looking at the trunk.
[14:38] <wikzo> Vigo: Cool. Tell me if you can get it working under Ubuntu
[14:39] <v0lksman> DrHalan: yeah that doesn't do it...with hardy I used to kill any pulseaudio processes and run pulseaudio but that doesn't work with intrepid
[14:39] <quibbler> v0lksman: maybe: sudo killall pulseaudio; sleep 5; sudo alsa force-reload
[14:39] <coreyman> r3dux thanks a lot!!!
[14:39] <v0lksman> quibbler: hrm...I'll try that next time it dies
[14:39] <coreyman> r3dux but still, how do i make that button that turns my touchpad off... turn my touchpad off! :P
[14:41] <DrHalan> v0lksman: you should better figure out why it crashes..
[14:41] <coreyman> how do i register my nick
[14:41] <shadeslayer> hey what can i use to reduce power consumption on my notebook
[14:41] <shadeslayer> except fo powertop
[14:41] <coreyman> shadeslayer turn down brightness of monitor
[14:41] <new-tu> Here's my situation: update manager seems to download files, but then not install them.  I came in here to talk about it yesterday, and it turns out I have  Linux ubuntu-desktop 2.6.27-11 - which is supposed to be 27-13.  Verdict from someone else here: " the installer cannot figure out which "back-end" to compile for.  t looks like the installer is confused. it wants files from two...
[14:41] <new-tu> ...different architecture back-ends to compile."   So my ORIGINAL problem had been that I could not install some intel video drivers.  This underlying problem seems to need to be addressed first.
[14:41] <v0lksman> DrHalan: prolly...but not sure how to go about it and don't really have time to play...
[14:41] <shadeslayer> coreyman: duh!
[14:42] <coreyman> shadeslayer have your cpu dynamically change speed
[14:42] <shadeslayer> new-tu: true,you need to upgrade to a newer kernel
[14:42] <new-tu> rather...  the update problem fiirst, ot seems, video drivers sxecond
[14:42] <shadeslayer> coreyman: did that
[14:42] <DrHalan> v0lksman: maybe the easiest way is to wait for jaunty.
[14:43] <X_FILES> shadeslayer isn t acpi suppose to do that?
[14:43] <new-tu> shadeslayer:  procedu8re?
[14:43] <shadeslayer> i need something to drastically power down my video card
[14:43] <coreyman> shadeslayer ok what are you here for then >.>, looking for a spell to cast on it?
[14:43] <coreyman> shadeslayer you don't have a mobile video card?
[14:43] <shadeslayer> new-tu: sudo apt-get update
[14:43] <shadeslayer> yeah
[14:43] <X_FILES> shadeslayer unplug it xD
[14:43] <shadeslayer> but like drastically
[14:43] <shadeslayer> XD lol
[14:43] <new-tu> shadeslayer: stand by
[14:44] <X_FILES> lol
[14:44] <shadeslayer> too drastic
[14:44] <v0lksman> DrHalan: kinda what I'm thinking...might download the alpha
[14:44] <X_FILES> ok =P
[14:44] <shadeslayer> new-tu: the run sudo apt-get upgrade
[14:44] <coreyman> shadeslayer it should "power down" itself, if you need it to be way drasticly "powered down" then underclock it.
[14:44] <X_FILES> undercloacking !
[14:44] <shadeslayer> something like undervolting
[14:44] <shadeslayer> but automatically
[14:44] <shadeslayer> my notebook is too hot too handle
[14:44] <gldtn> ..
[14:45] <shadeslayer> ><
[14:45] <coreyman> shadeslayer not sure if there is a tool for that on linux, i've only been a user for 4 days.
[14:45] <X_FILES> yea i hear you =p
[14:45] <shadeslayer> haha
[14:45] <X_FILES> mine hot too lol
[14:45] <hippychick> is anyone able to help me attach a script to my fn+f2 key
[14:45] <shadeslayer> well ive been here for only a month
[14:45] <shadeslayer> X_FILES: nvidia 8600 M GT
[14:45] <coreyman> how do i register my nick so i can join #java
[14:45] <X_FILES> mine is 8400 M xd
[14:45] <wikzo> Vigo: So? :)
[14:46] <shadeslayer> coreyman: !register
[14:46] <shadeslayer> XD
[14:46] <shadeslayer> !register | coreyman
[14:46] <coreyman> sweet
[14:46] <shadeslayer> new-tu: what happened ??
[14:46] <new-tu> shadeslayer:  it retuns this error:  Building dependency tree   Reading state information... Done 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[14:46] <scopeEd> sumpin's busted.
[14:46] <shadeslayer> coreyman: all thanks too jussi01_
[14:47] <new-tu> little stinker won't update
[14:47] <X_FILES> very  loud fan =s
[14:47] <coreyman> crap that is blocked on my schools network
[14:47] <coreyman> can someone just post the syntax i need to use.
[14:47] <shadeslayer> new-tu: hmm,well keep trying those commands
[14:47] <scopeEd> Why is NetFilter no longer included in ipchains/tables>?
[14:47] <shadeslayer> new-tu: apt might not be hitting the new kernel
[14:48] <shadeslayer> coreyman: duh
[14:48] <X_FILES> gotta eat -_- see you
[14:48] <shadeslayer> coreyman: do this : /msg Nickserv help register
[14:48] <shadeslayer> also see the link
[14:48] <new-tu> shadeslayer is there a whole new install i can do?
[14:48] <new-tu> wipe and reinstall?
[14:48] <shadeslayer> new-tu: why ??
[14:48] <shadeslayer> new-tu: is GNOME a problem??
[14:49] <new-tu> i ran that command 4 times yesterday
[14:49] <shadeslayer> GNOME can be reset
[14:49] <new-tu> no resonse
[14:49] <shadeslayer> a whole reinstall might only be possible with a CD
[14:49] <Vigo> wikzo: Unstable so far, will take some coding , this jury is still out.
[14:49] <new-tu> ooo yuk
[14:49] <shadeslayer> new-tu: how recent is this install??
[14:50] <shadeslayer> hehe
[14:50] <Dreamglider> Good day/evening. i just copied my ubuntu partition to a new drive, how do i install a bootloader on the new drive ?
[14:50] <new-tu> shadeslayer: don't know gnome
[14:50] <erUSUL> !grub | Dreamglider
[14:50] <shadeslayer> ><
[14:50] <shadeslayer> !gnome | new-tu
[14:50] <new-tu> shade: i burned the installer iso 3 days ago, intalled yesterdayt
[14:50] <hwilde> hi i'm trying to open a ppt file with openoffice 3.0 and it says "Version incompatibility.  Inccorect file version."
[14:51] <shadeslayer> you have ubuntu right??
[14:51] <X_FILES> french canal ubottu pleas!
[14:51] <new-tu> yup  :)
[14:51] <jpds> !fr | X_FILES
[14:51] <erUSUL> !fr
[14:51] <X_FILES> ok i forgot sorry
[14:51] <shadeslayer> canal lol
[14:51] <shadeslayer> rhymes with you know what
[14:51] <X_FILES> lol tv canal
[14:51] <shadeslayer> ><
[14:51] <new-tu> shade: see my ear4lier comment about when I burned the iso
[14:51] <X_FILES> french =p im
[14:52] <shadeslayer> ok
[14:52] <Vigo> shadeslayer: And check the MD5. twice
[14:52] <shadeslayer> new-tu: what exactly is the problem??
[14:52] <new-tu> shadeslayer: is there another way to force the install from 27-11 to 27-13
[14:52] <shadeslayer> uh no
[14:53] <new-tu> nuts'
[14:53] <shadeslayer> you have to repeatedly keep trying those commands
[14:53] <new-tu> ok
[14:53] <shadeslayer> i was updated after a week
[14:53] <shadeslayer> ><M
[14:53] <Dreamglider> it i install grub with # grub-install /dev/hda  will it scan for bootable partions and add them to the boot list ?
[14:53] <joem86> hello everyone.
[14:53] <Dreamglider> hey
[14:53] <joem86> I'm having a wee bit of trouble with my bluetooth mouse in ubuntu 8.10
[14:54] <shadeslayer> new-tu: so basically  i dont think there is any method
[14:54] <joem86> Microsoft Bluetooth Notebook Mouse 5000
[14:54] <shadeslayer> joem86: were here to remove that wee-bit of probem
[14:54] <shadeslayer> *l
[14:54] <joem86> :-)
[14:54] <joem86> thanks. After some googling, I saw the hcitool
[14:54] <shadeslayer> so basically go ahead and state it
[14:54] <r3dux> I didn't even know you could get bluetooth mice...
[14:54] <gldtn> Iḿ having problem with my wlan0 to start at boot.. I configured /etc/network/interfaces to have a line with "auto wlan0" and one with "iface wlan0 inet dhcp", now if I try to restart the network it won't grab a address through dhcp, but here in gnome, the network tool can grab an address just fine! what does the gnome network tool does that I'm not doing it manually?
[14:54] <samuell> just a lil question how can I change Root permissions?
[14:54] <shadeslayer> :O
[14:55] <dong> oi
[14:55] <joem86> well, basically the problem is that my laptop doesn't see it
[14:55] <shadeslayer> samuell: it think its chown <file name>
[14:55] <joem86> I've tested it on my windows partition and the mouse and dongle work fine
[14:55] <r3dux> joem86, if it's a laptop you have to enable it by pushing the bluetooth button before any bluetooth stuff will pick it up (that's caught me out before)
[14:55] <joem86> I used hcitool scan, but that only picked up a couple of imacs in the next room
[14:55] <joem86> no mice
[14:56] <KDB9000> Hello everyone. Is it possible to lock a file or folder, so it can't be deleted, but can still be used (add files, edit, etc...)?
[14:56] <shadeslayer> !bluetooth | joem86
[14:56] <shadeslayer> try this
[14:56] <erUSUL> gldtn: authentification ? with wifi you need first to attach yourself to an AP and make auth before you can do dhcp
[14:56] <new-tu> shadeslayer: now hitting paste repeatedly... maybe hit it 30 times by now
[14:56] <quibbler> joem86: have a look here: http://blog.chinthaka.org/2008/09/getting-microsoft-bluetooth-mouse.html
[14:56]  * shadeslayer steals the ISP's bandwidth
[14:57] <r3dux> KDB9000, Look up "linux file permissions" 755 etc
[14:57] <Notch-1> hi, i can't find any php4 package (only php5), is it normal?
[14:57] <joem86> quibbler: That's what I tried before coming here. hcitool scan doesn't pick up my mouse
[14:57] <shadeslayer> new-tu: lol
[14:57] <shadeslayer> new-tu: after update so upgrade too
[14:57] <shadeslayer> *hit
[14:57] <shadeslayer> ><
[14:57] <new-tu> shadeslayer: stilll zero all the way accorss
[14:57] <shadeslayer> :(
[14:57] <quibbler> joem86: OK i'll look some more
[14:58] <shadeslayer> ok ill find a way
[14:58] <gldtn> erUSUL, hmm.. no authentication but I do have a essid different from default which I have tried to do a iwconfig wlan0 essid MYESSID
[14:58] <gldtn> then tried restarting network and still no go
[14:58] <shadeslayer> new-tu: only other way is by compiling yourself
[14:59] <dong> hey guys
[14:59] <joem86> huh.. I think I got it working.
[14:59] <shadeslayer> joem86: how??
[14:59] <joem86> I pushed the bluetooth button on my mouse before, but this time I held it in for a few seconds and then did an hciscan
[14:59] <new-tu> shadeslayer:  nuts... i'm a windows geek
[14:59] <dong> this is my first time using ubuntu hope to learn from you guys
[15:00] <joem86> my fault for not knowing my own mouse, lol
[15:00] <shadeslayer> joem86: :P
[15:00] <shadeslayer> new-tu: dont worry
[15:00] <shadeslayer> new-tu: its difficult in the beggining
[15:00] <shadeslayer> i know
[15:00] <fevel> hi
[15:00] <fevel> all
[15:01] <dong> heya
[15:01] <storbeck> joem86: pastebin the output of: lspci -n
[15:01] <erUSUL> gldtn: for a wireless entry you need to add "wireless-essid youressid" "wireless-key s:yourkey" etc
[15:01] <scunizi> How do you forward a message in mutt?
[15:01] <fevel> how can I clone the hard disk of an ubuntu installation to another exact machine?
[15:01] <erUSUL> gldtn: there are options for channel mode etc
[15:01] <shadeslayer> new-tu: system>administration>update manager
[15:01] <joem86> so on that link (http://blog.chinthaka.org/2008/09/getting-microsoft-bluetooth-mouse.html), the equivalent config file would be /etc/bluetooth/input.conf, right?
[15:01] <fevel> what would be the best way?
[15:02] <das__> awan
[15:02] <storbeck> fevel: With dd
[15:02] <joem86> eh, forget it, I did it through gnome instead
[15:02] <joem86> cool, thank you all
[15:03] <wikzo> I need help to installing a Firefox add-on called New Tab King (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/10828). When I open a new tab it just says that it can't find the file "chrome://newtabking/content/newtabking.htm" - I use Ubuntu 8.10 with Firefox 3.0.7
[15:03] <fevel> storbeck, isnt it easier to download one of those cloning distros and boot from there?
[15:03] <storbeck> no
[15:03] <shal> shal
[15:03] <new-tu> shadeslayer:  got it...  update manager downloads files, does the directory tree thing, then shows no files, install button dimmed
[15:04] <shadeslayer> !clone | storbeck
[15:04] <shadeslayer> new-tu: that sucks
[15:04] <storbeck> Why was that sent to me?
[15:04] <shadeslayer> i dont think there is ANY other option
[15:05] <shadeslayer> storbeck: yeah
[15:05] <gldtn> erUSUL, your talking about the /etc/network/interfaces correct? so it should be "iface wlan0 inet wireless-essid myessid dhcp"?
[15:05] <shadeslayer> oh sorry
[15:05] <new-tu> wow
[15:05] <shadeslayer> it was for fevel
[15:05] <gldtn> erUSUL, sorry got a little lost
[15:05] <shadeslayer> new-tu: what server are you using??
[15:06] <erUSUL> gldtn: no is line 1 "iface wlan0 inet dhcp" line 2 "wireless-essid myessid"
[15:06] <shadeslayer> the international one??
[15:06] <new-tu> shadeslayer: how do you determind what server?
[15:06] <erUSUL> gldtn: line 2 is usally indented
[15:06] <fevel> shadeslayer, I actually want to clone the entire system
[15:06] <king> hi
[15:06] <storbeck> Use dd
[15:06] <Dreamglider> fevel: you can use dd
[15:06] <dogmagitron> hello can anyone help me with a strange problem - everytime i start ubuntu the basic default gtk theme loads up - instead of dark room. but when i click on preferences then it changes
[15:06] <shadeslayer> one moment
[15:06] <Dreamglider> dd if=/dev/source of=/dev/destination
[15:06] <fevel> I know about dd
[15:07] <fevel> but can the hard disks be mounted?
[15:07] <king> is someone here
[15:07] <fevel> or will I have to boot from a live cd?
[15:07] <gldtn> erUSUL, got u.. let me give it a try
[15:07] <king> hi
[15:07] <shadeslayer> new-tu: open synaptic
[15:07] <Dreamglider> it should be unmounted if using dd
[15:07] <fevel> Dreamglider, both of them?
[15:07] <king> can someone help me please
[15:07] <Dreamglider> fevel: yep
[15:07] <shadeslayer> new-tu: can you open synaptic??
[15:07] <erUSUL> fevel: from livecd
[15:07] <new-tu> shadeslayer: got it
[15:07] <fevel> ok
[15:07] <fevel> thanks guys
[15:08] <joem86> king: is anyone of us really here? or there? what is the meaning of is? a state of being? How can we help you? :-)
[15:08] <shadeslayer> new-tu: settings>repos
[15:08] <shipclar> join /networking
[15:08] <Dreamglider> fevel: you can allso use gparted LiveCD with a GUI, it's was easy as right click copy and paste :)
[15:08] <shadeslayer> then select main server
[15:08] <Dreamglider> it's as*
[15:08] <king> im searching 3D software for ubuntu and i since im on ubuntu ive seen that my wifi is very slow
[15:08] <shadeslayer> new-tu: done??
[15:09] <shadeslayer> new-tu: then use the commands again
[15:09] <new-tu> shade: got it
[15:09] <fevel> Dreamglider, ok...thanks for the tip
[15:09] <gldtn> erUSUL, also it needs to be "wireless-essid youressid" not "essid myessid"? just asking because I never seen that before
[15:09] <Dreamglider> fevel: np, n good luck.
[15:09] <erUSUL> gldtn: yep
[15:09] <torc> When I update Ubuntu on my USB install, it's a persistent liveUSB install, I always end up with an error 17 at the end. What does it mean and can I fix it?
[15:09] <jonkenny> hey .. i know this is not a ubuntu question.. but can anyone help me with this.. i can't access craigslist for somereason.. just that site.. any idea why?
[15:10] <storbeck> jonkenny: Try clearing your cache
[15:10] <erUSUL> jonkenny: can you access it with other os? what's the error you get if any ?
[15:10] <joem86> king: is the wifi faster in windows?
[15:10] <new-tu> hit reoload... waiting...
[15:10] <jonkenny> i can under windoes
[15:10] <jonkenny> no error
[15:10] <jonkenny> just doesn't load
[15:11] <king> torc: your error 17 is because of an uncompatibility of the key i have also got this error if you rectify it use uenetboot(i think) from win
[15:11] <jonkenny> my cach clears in firefox
[15:11] <jonkenny> everytime i close it
[15:11] <FloodBot3> jonkenny: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:11] <shadeslayer> new-tu: ok
[15:11] <new-tu> "no package is selected"
[15:11] <king> somenone has sugesctions
[15:11] <storbeck> jonkenny: What is the URL that you're going to?
[15:11] <king> sugections
[15:12] <jonkenny> toronto.craigslist.org
[15:12] <storbeck> Use this: http://toronto.en.craigslist.ca/
[15:12] <joem86> king: one possibility is that you have some outgoing connections happening in the background. From the terminal type "watch -n 1 netstat -t"
[15:12] <erUSUL> jonkenny: do this « echo 0 | sudo tee /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_window_scaling » and try again to access it
[15:12] <king> ok i try
[15:12] <joem86> king: That should show you all your tcp connections in real time
[15:12] <shadeslayer> new-tu: did you try those commands??
[15:12] <new-tu> shadeslayer: no dice
[15:12] <shadeslayer> new-tu: in the terminal??
[15:13] <new-tu> oh termina... stand  by
[15:13] <shadeslayer> :)
[15:13] <C-S-B> i am using the b43 module -i would like to integrate this into the optimised acer aspire one kernel but the module cannot be modprobed. I thinnk it needs to be recompiled as its a different 'platform' to the aao kernel however I dont have internet until the b43 is loaded
[15:13] <king> apart this
[15:13] <shadeslayer> new-tu: the terminal is more powerful than DOS
[15:13] <jonkenny> erUSUL: i did.. still nothing
[15:14] <king> do you have an other sugections like optimisations because im on an a NC10
[15:14] <erUSUL> jonkenny: :| revert the change echo 1 | sudo tee /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_window_scaling
[15:14] <new-tu> shadeslayer: now doing control shift v repeatedly...  still 0 all the way accross
[15:14] <quibbler> jonkenny: do you have opera to try that
[15:15] <shadeslayer> new-tu: wait
[15:15] <gldtn> erUSUL, may you take a look at this please?  http://pastebin.com/d3bd0307b
[15:15] <new-tu> shade: ok
[15:15] <shadeslayer> new-tu: did you run this : sudo apt-get update
[15:15] <jonkenny> i don't.. but i can get it right now and try it
[15:15] <shadeslayer> new-tu: then sudo apt-get upgrade
[15:15] <new-tu> shadeslayer: i can do that now
[15:15] <joem86> I have no experience with netbooks, but in theory they work the same. the problem is that the internet is slow?
[15:15] <sudo> hi all
[15:15] <shadeslayer> :O
[15:16] <shadeslayer> sudo is here
[15:16] <shadeslayer> :P
[15:16] <sudo> im here yess
[15:16] <sudo> this is true
[15:16] <joem86> sudo: make me a sandwich
[15:16] <erUSUL> gldtn: well you do not tell me if your network uses any type of protection/password ?
[15:16] <joem86> sorry, had to do it :-)
[15:16]  * sudo slaps joem86 around a bit with a large trout
[15:17] <gldtn> erUSUL, currently no auth required
[15:17] <new-tu> shadeslayer: hey cool...  it ended with "reading package lists - done"  THAT looks hopeful
[15:17] <Cool_Nick> Does someone know if a qos rule could be created based on # of open conenctions on a specific port?
[15:17] <shadeslayer> new-tu: now tun the upgrade command
[15:17] <shadeslayer> *r
[15:17] <sudo> some news for compiz?
[15:17] <sudo> :X
[15:17] <new-tu> shade: wtf?  :)
[15:17] <erUSUL> gldtn: well then i dunno... do you use firewall? try disabling it
[15:18] <Dreamglider> do i have to do any settings after installing the boot loader with # grub-install /dev/hda  ? or am i ready to boot after the install os done ?
[15:18] <shadeslayer> new-tu: what happened??
[15:18] <new-tu> shadeslayer:  need the exact command to cut from here and paste in there
[15:18] <shadeslayer> ok
[15:18] <shadeslayer> sudo apt-get update
[15:18] <shadeslayer> sudo apt-get upgrade
[15:18] <shadeslayer> same order
[15:18] <new-tu> shade: stand by
[15:19] <new-tu> shade: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[15:19] <shadeslayer> god darn it
[15:19] <Notch-1> guys, php4 it's really gone?!? i still can't find any package...
[15:19] <OoIP> Any body Here can help me with samba?
[15:20] <shadeslayer> well im all out of options
[15:20] <r3dux> You want PHP5
[15:20] <gldtn> erUSUL, firewall only the one thats build into the router software.. also, I'm currently connected here with the same computer, what I don't get is that if I use gnome network tool to connect it connects fine, but if I try manually I get nothing
[15:20] <Seveas> good afternoon #ubuntu
[15:20] <erUSUL> gldtn: well wifi in linux is really a misterious thing XD
[15:20] <Seveas> how are we today?
[15:21] <erUSUL> Seveas: hi; nice to see you again. hope your doing well
[15:21] <quibbler> new-tu: just a thought..but have you checked to see if all your software sources are checked?
[15:21] <joem86> Seveas... sleepy. It's 10:21 AM here in Orlando, FL USA
[15:21] <gldtn> erUSUL, thanks ;)
[15:21] <OoIP> I install samba on Ubuntu and make all the configuration for firewall and file sharing but i can not share the internet ?
[15:21] <erUSUL> gldtn: maybe you have to specify the channel...? try adding "wireless-channel n"
[15:21] <new-tu> quibbler:  let me know how and i will let you know your answer  :)
[15:21] <Seveas> joem86, in the civilised world it's 16:21 (or 15:21 if you consider the uk to be civilised :))
[15:22]  * erUSUL LOL
[15:22] <DJones> Seveas: We're definately not civilised in the uk
[15:22] <H3l1c0pt3r> !offtopic | Seveas
[15:22] <new-tu> quibbler - never mind... found it5
[15:22] <quibbler> new-tu: ok
[15:22] <shadeslayer> :P
[15:22] <new-tu> quibler: everything is checked except source code
[15:22] <Seveas> OoIP, many internet providers block samba, regardless of your settings
[15:22] <Slart> OoIP: you need to give us some more details.. how have you determined that it doesn't work? What are you trying to do? what is it doing? error messages? anything in the logs? general network connectivity ok?
[15:22] <Dreamglider> when i do # grub-install /dev/hda  i get this error. grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for /.   grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for /boot/.    Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device.
[15:22] <joem86> Seveas: Compared to you guys across the pond, we're just plain barbarians. :-) We can't even spell civiliZed
[15:22] <shadeslayer> quibbler: i think the repo is not being hit
[15:23] <shadeslayer> new-tu: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading
[15:23] <Slart> Dreamglider: aren't you supposed to give it a partition? ie /dev/sda1 or similar?
[15:23] <quibbler> shadeslayer: he should be geting errors then and he isn't
[15:23] <erUSUL> Dreamglider: i doubt the device node for your hard drive is /dev/hda most probably is /dev/sda check it
[15:23] <Slart> Dreamglider: or /dev/hda1 in your case
[15:23] <shadeslayer> quibbler: like ign : ----
[15:24] <shadeslayer> yeah
[15:24] <new-tu> shadeslayer:  what is a good, short way to describe what is going on so far, so that if i try to come back to htis, i won't have to use my lack of skills to explain it?
[15:24] <shadeslayer> new-tu: upgrading to a newer kernel
[15:24] <quibbler> shadeslayer: ign??
[15:24] <rabbit_ubuntu> Hey guys
[15:24] <Dreamglider> erUSUL: slart that gives me the same error
[15:24] <shadeslayer> quibbler: maybe we should ask him to paste the output
[15:25] <erUSUL> Dreamglider: paste the output of "sudo fdisk -l"
[15:25] <jonkenny> ok.. i tried it with opera too.. can't access craigslist through opera
[15:25] <jonkenny> could it be my router?
[15:25] <new-tu> shadeslayer: upgrading to a newer kernel - and - there's got to be a smarter way to describe it than "it does not work" :)
[15:25] <shadeslayer> new-tu: can you do one more thing??
[15:25] <klucz> jestem na podgladzie
[15:25] <new-tu> shadeslayter:
[15:25] <new-tu> shre
[15:25] <new-tu> sure
[15:25] <rabbit_ubuntu> Having a problem installing virtual box. I go to Synaptic, click for installation. But when the installation is done....Nothing happens. There is no virtual box in my app menu
[15:25] <Seveas> !pl | klucz
[15:25] <abrahamgy> hello everybody
[15:26] <Seveas> hello abrahamgy
[15:26] <shadeslayer> new-tu: maybe the repository is not being hit
[15:26] <rabbit_ubuntu> Can anyone assist with that?
[15:26] <new-tu> shadeslayer:  hmmmm...  is there a way for the files to be manually grabbed and downloaded
[15:26] <shadeslayer> new-tu: run : sudo apt-get update and paste the output @ www.pastebin.com
[15:26] <klucz> aha
[15:26] <shadeslayer> new-tu: no
[15:27] <H3l1c0pt3r> rabbit_ubuntu, did you look under apps > system tools > sun xvm virtual box
[15:27] <|REM|> Anyone running Ubuntu server as a domain controller?  do windows clients work with it?
[15:27] <rabbit_ubuntu> H3l1c0pt3r: Thats the thing....There is no "System Tools"
[15:27] <erUSUL> !samba | |REM|
[15:27] <rabbit_ubuntu> H3l1c0pt3r: Thats what I was expecting to see
[15:28] <Seveas> |REM|, I am and it works :)
[15:28] <H3l1c0pt3r> rabbit_ubuntu, right click your start menu and edit menus, and make sure system tools is checked so that you see it
[15:28] <rabbit_ubuntu> H3l1c0pt3r:But its not there...There is no trace of the installation except for in the Synaptic
[15:28] <|REM|> awesome
[15:28] <r3dux> |REM|, LDAP speaks its own language - so it SHOULD work..,
[15:28] <Seveas> |REM|, mind you, if you want an AD domain controller instead of an NT domain controller you'll need a newer samba than what ubuntu has (not even sure if it is released already)
[15:28] <new-tu> shadeslayer: patebin thinks i am spam - i will msg u
[15:29] <shadeslayer> haha
[15:29] <r3dux> Seveas, why that?
[15:29] <shadeslayer> quibbler: yeah ign
[15:29] <Seveas> r3dux, newer (completely different) protocol
[15:29] <shadeslayer> ><
[15:29] <rabbit_ubuntu> H3l1c0pt3r: Hmm....Something awkward is happeneing
[15:29] <OoIP> the internet  should installed on windows or linux on samba?
[15:29] <shadeslayer> quibbler: hardly one or two are hits
[15:29] <r3dux> Seveas, coo -- didn't know that.
[15:30] <rabbit_ubuntu> H3l1c0pt3r: When I clcik the menu to activate it...It just  unchecks itself once I click somewhere else
[15:30] <Seveas> OoIP, that line makes less sense than a drunken irisman telling haikus...
[15:30] <|REM|> Seveas: Yeh, I would want an AD DC.  Thanks for the heads up
[15:30] <quibbler> shadeslayer: ign??  I'm old I don't know what that means
[15:30] <shadeslayer> ignore
[15:30] <shadeslayer> ><
[15:30] <r3dux> )_o
[15:30] <Seveas> OoIP, what are you trying to achIeve?
[15:30] <r3dux> )_o
[15:30] <quibbler> shadeslayer: Oh
[15:31] <H3l1c0pt3r> rabbit_ubuntu, if you go to edit menu and click ON system tools, do you see a list of items on your right side? and is one of those list items the sun xvm virtual box?
[15:31] <shadeslayer> quibbler: : so basically apt is ignoring the repos
[15:31] <shadeslayer> new-tu: final advice : keep trying those commands
[15:31] <rabbit_ubuntu> H3l1c0pt3r: Nope...Its not there, and it's still unchecking itself.
[15:31] <quibbler> shadeslayer: did he paste the result of sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[15:31] <shadeslayer> new-tu: and then the upgrade command after every update command
[15:32] <shadeslayer> ill paste it
[15:32] <shadeslayer> he PM'ed me
[15:32] <shadeslayer> XD
[15:32] <new-tu> shadeslayer: are the repos being hit
[15:32] <oCean_> shadeslayer: corrupt sources.list? (e.g. typo's ?)
[15:32] <H3l1c0pt3r> rabbit_ubuntu, hmm even if there is nothing in the list (like for me, with debian or education, nothing in those menus) and i can still check them they wont uncheck, so that is strange
[15:32] <Gartral1> is there a way i can rotate the display with a card that doesn't support rotation on a hardware level?
[15:32] <shadeslayer> oCean_: probably not,new install
[15:33] <r3dux> when your apt-stuff is stuffed don't you just use "dpkg --update"?
[15:33] <H3l1c0pt3r> rabbit_ubuntu, if you press alt+f2 and type in 'virtual' does the virtual box pop up in the list?
[15:33] <shadeslayer> oh wait the end repos are alot of hits
[15:33] <turtle_> 64bit is my choice
[15:33] <Seveas> r3dux, no
[15:33] <quibbler> shadeslayer: mabe ask him to paste the source list
[15:33] <rabbit_ubuntu> H3l1c0pt3r: Same thing I was thinking, because I unchecked wine. And it remained unchecked. And when I checked it again. It remained checked....So it's a tad bit odd. And as far as I know. Vbox should be in the System Tools
[15:33] <rabbit_ubuntu> H3l1c0pt3r: I'll try
[15:34] <r3dux> Seveas, what dpkg command is it then?
[15:34] <Seveas> r3dux, what you do depends on the way  is stuffed. could be dpkg --configure -a or apt-get -f install or apt-get clean or ...
[15:34] <turtle_> sudo
[15:34] <rabbit_ubuntu> H3l1c0pt3r: AY! It worked! Oddly enough....But why does it show there. But not in the System Tools menu?
[15:34] <r3dux> nods - get ya, thanks.
[15:34] <H3l1c0pt3r> rabbit_ubuntu, something wrong with the menus apparently
[15:34] <rabbit_ubuntu> H3l1c0pt3r: Hmm, so Alt+F2 is an app launcher?
[15:34] <ikonia> new-tu: what do you want to do exactly
[15:35] <Seveas> H3l1c0pt3r, logout . If that fails, remove the .desktop files from ~/.local/share/applications/
[15:35] <shadeslayer> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/127262/
[15:35] <echo_mirage> ssh-problem: a server has my public key, i want to log in with my private key, but the server refuses me because of a bad passphrase. but it cant be bad because i just changed it. what is wrong here?
[15:35] <Gartral1> is there a way i can rotate the display with a card that doesn't support rotation on a hardware level?
[15:35] <H3l1c0pt3r> rabbit_ubuntu, yeah alt+f2 is to run applications, you can search apps in there too
[15:35] <shadeslayer> new-tu: haha youre tripping spam
[15:35] <marije> ciao
[15:35] <H3l1c0pt3r> Seveas, um sorry? i don't have a problem
[15:35] <turtle_> ciao
[15:35] <rabbit_ubuntu> H3l1c0pt3r: Aight, thanks. I really do appreciate the help
[15:35] <LjL> !it | marije
[15:35] <new-tu> ikona: tryiung to update from 27-11 to 27-13 - shadeslayer can summarize it better than me
[15:35] <Seveas> echo_mirage, the client asks you for the passphrase of your key? the server doesn't accept keys
[15:36] <r3dux> Alt-F2 will run a command - but why not run kuake or guake or tilda? Terminal at a keypress...
[15:36] <rabbit_ubuntu> H3l1c0pt3r: Ima try running it now.
[15:36] <Seveas> H3l1c0pt3r, err, yeah, that was for rabbit_ubuntu :)
[15:36] <shadeslayer> :)
[15:36] <shadeslayer> ive told her
[15:36] <shadeslayer> ><
[15:36] <ikonia> new-tu: -13 doesn't exist -11 is the current
[15:36] <echo_mirage> Seveas, oh ok. so what can be the problem?
[15:36] <ikonia> !info linux-kernel
[15:36] <ikonia> !info kernel-image
[15:36] <H3l1c0pt3r> rabbit_ubuntu, Seveas said: logout . If that fails, remove the .desktop files from ~/.local/share/applications/
[15:36] <Seveas> echo_mirage, my first guess is either of those 2
[15:36] <r3dux> -kuake + yakuake
[15:36] <LjL> ikonia: ubuntu has switched to the hurd now, didn't you know?
[15:36] <LjL> ikonia: it's linux-image
[15:36] <ikonia> LjL: whats the darn package name - I'm on a centos box here
[15:36] <Seveas> echo_mirage, or the permissions on ~/.ssh are too open on client or server
[15:37] <ikonia> !info linux-image
[15:37] <new-tu> ikona:  update manager keeps downloading update files - no installl
[15:37] <rabbit_ubuntu> H3l1c0pt3r:Remove the .desktop files?
[15:37] <shadeslayer> ikonia:  Ubuntu 8.10, kernel 2.6.27-13-generic
[15:37] <shadeslayer> i use that
[15:37] <ikonia> shadeslayer: which repo did that come out of
[15:37] <ikonia> LjL: thanks
[15:37] <new-tu> ikona: main server
[15:37] <shadeslayer> dunno
[15:37] <H3l1c0pt3r> rabbit_ubuntu, try a reboot first, if that doesnt work, go to ~/.local/share/applications/ (~ is home directory) and remove the .desktop files in the applications folder
[15:37] <ikonia> shadeslayer: right - so best to check before offering that around
[15:37] <oCean_> new-tu: what is your current version?
[15:37] <shadeslayer> it updated one day by itself
[15:38] <shadeslayer> ikonia: well i thought it was in the standard repo
[15:38] <shadeslayer> :P
[15:38] <rabbit_ubuntu> H3l1c0pt3r: Aight, thanks again. And thanks Seveas
[15:38] <H3l1c0pt3r> rabbit_ubuntu, period before a folder/file name means it is "hidden" so you have to show hidden files
[15:38] <new-tu> Linux ubuntu-desktop 2.6.27-11-generic #1 SMP Thu Jan 29 19:24:39 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
[15:38] <shadeslayer> new-tu: youre running Intrepid right??
[15:38] <shadeslayer> oh i use 64 bit
[15:38] <oCean_> shadeslayer: he is on -11
[15:39] <echo_mirage> Seveas, ok in my case ~/.ssh is drwx------ and for ~/.ssh/id_rsa it is dr-x------
[15:39] <shadeslayer> didnt see that
[15:39] <new-tu> shadeslayer: whatever the latest is as of 2 days ago
[15:39] <rabbit_ubuntu> Kk
[15:39] <shadeslayer> hmm
[15:39] <oCean_> shadeslayer: what is he trying to upgrade?
[15:39] <echo_mirage> Seveas, is this ok ?
[15:39] <shadeslayer> kernel
[15:39] <new-tu> shadeslayer: as far as teh iso is concerned
[15:39] <Seveas> echo_mirage, yes, And on the server?
[15:39] <ruby_on_tails> i have set a certain brightness-contrast stuff on my ubuntu, but whenever the computer is restarted/ or it comes out from sleep mode the contrast and brightness go to default, then i have to start the nvidia settings and as soon as the nvidia thing pop ups the brighntess-contrast goes to the one i have set.what should i do to make the custom combo permanent ?
[15:39] <new-tu> <------------- is female  :)
[15:39] <oCean_> new-tu: use "apt-cache policy linux-image-generic"
[15:39] <shadeslayer> oCean_: are the kernels for 64 bit and 36 bit different??
[15:39] <shadeslayer> :)
[15:39] <echo_mirage> Seveas, i dont know. it is not mine. but you can be sure the fault is not on my side (client) ?
[15:40] <Seveas> echo_mirage, not entirely. Pastebin the output of: ssh -vvv host.name.here
[15:40] <echo_mirage> ok
[15:40] <Dreamglider> erUSUL: fdisk -l lists the drive and it's two partitions
[15:40] <shadeslayer> brb
[15:40] <oCean_> shadeslayer: I'm not sure what new-tu is trying to achieve. Only read from the part that a package cannot be upgraded
[15:40] <ruby_on_tails> anyone ?
[15:40] <new-tu> 2.6.27.11.14 0
[15:40] <new-tu> 500 http://archive.ubuntu.com intrepid-updates/main Packages
[15:40] <Seveas> new-tu, as is half of this worlds population :P
[15:40] <new-tu>         500 http://archive.ubuntu.com intrepid-security/main Packages
[15:40] <new-tu>         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[15:40] <FloodBot1> new-tu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:40] <new-tu>      2.6.27.7.11 0
[15:41] <ruby_on_tails> the custom brightness-contrast hits my eyes :(
[15:41] <ruby_on_tails> the default*
[15:41] <Seveas> new-tu, you have a proxy between you and the archive that is broken. Nothing we can do that fixes that.
[15:41] <new-tu> there ya go
[15:41] <new-tu> oh - sholuld blame comcast?
[15:42] <new-tu> actually cox cable
[15:42] <ikonia> new-tu: 2.6.27-11-generic  is the current stable
[15:42] <ikonia> new-tu: just to be clear
[15:42] <marije> hello
[15:42] <new-tu> ikona:  ok
[15:42] <oCean_> new-tu: so, that is current package. What are you trying to upgrade? (I have not read/seen that part)
[15:42] <marije> !list
[15:42] <lovre> hi all
[15:42] <lovre> how do i edit /etc/network/interfaces to use custom DNS server?
[15:43] <Seveas> lovre, you don't. DNS info is in /etc/resolv.conf :)
[15:43] <storbeck> ruby_on_tails: apt-get install xbacklight; xbacklight -set 50
[15:43] <shadeslayer> then how come i have a newer kernel??
[15:43] <lovre> Seveas: oh !!
[15:43] <shadeslayer> maybe because i use KDE and XFCE as well??
[15:43] <Seveas> shadeslayer, because you're special :)
[15:43] <ikonia> shadeslayer: what is ?
[15:43] <shadeslayer> :P
[15:43] <new-tu> ocean:  it all started when i was trying to install an intel video driver - diagnosis from this channel last night was i need the kernel upgrade to make it work
[15:43] <shadeslayer> ikonia: what??
[15:43] <oCean_> new-tu: I get it now. However, your kernel img seems to be up-to-date
[15:43] <new-tu> apparently that is a prerequisite
[15:43] <echo_mirage> Seveas, http://paste.ubuntu.com/127267/
[15:43] <erUSUL> Dreamglider: where's the output pasted ?
[15:44] <ikonia> shadeslayer: you have a newer kernel probably because you have the proposed repos enabled
[15:44] <erUSUL> !paste | Dreamglider
[15:44] <lovre> Seveas: can i comment lines in resolv.conf with # ?
[15:44] <ruby_on_tails> storbeck: thanks
[15:44] <ruby_on_tails> :)
[15:44] <storbeck> np ruby_on_tails
[15:44] <ikonia> new-tu: what package are you trying to install that you think needs a new kernel
[15:44] <Seveas> lovre, yes
[15:44] <Seveas> lovre, but if you use network-manager, it will overwrite your edits again
[15:44] <shadeslayer> ikonia: hmmm,well i thought kernel releases were in the standard repo?? maybe 13 is experimental??
[15:44] <new-tu> i95Graphics.tar
[15:44] <Seveas> echo_mirage, debug1: Read from key file /home/echo/.ssh/id_rsa failed: Is a directory
[15:45] <lovre> Seveas: erm, how can i avoid that? im using wpa_supplicant so its not as easy as i thought
[15:45] <Seveas> echo_mirage, your key should be put in the *file* ~/.ssh/id_rsa (or id_dsa if it's a dsa key)
[15:45] <shadeslayer> ikonia: what do you think??
[15:45] <echo_mirage> Seveas, oh my god. yes...
[15:45] <ikonia> shadeslayer: I just told you - you probably have the proposed repo enabled
[15:45] <new-tu> already have a dripkg folder ready
[15:45] <ikonia> new-tu: why are you tryiing to install that - that's not an ubuntu package
[15:45] <shadeslayer> hmm
[15:45] <echo_mirage> Seveas, i always thought it is a directory. thank you i try now
[15:45] <Seveas> lovre, are you using a static ip or dhcp?
[15:46] <lovre> Seveas: dhcp
[15:46] <shadeslayer> ikonia: i didnt get you at first :P
[15:46] <n2diy> My roommate is attempting to install Hardy on an XP box, the install went normally, until we got to the migrate data page. At that point, the install stalls, we can't move forward, so we have to cancel out.
[15:46] <Seveas> lovre, edit the dhcp config to make it prepend your dns servers. The file has an example of wht to add
[15:46] <shadeslayer> ikonia: i wanted to ask one thing
[15:46] <new-tu> ikona:  trying to update the video driver for an intel controller
[15:46] <erUSUL> n2diy: even if you choose not to migrate data?
[15:46] <ikonia> new-tu: why ?
[15:46] <DJones> shadeslayer: I'm fairly sure i've got the .13 kernel, i'm pretty sure that was released on wednesday through the proposed repo
[15:47] <shadeslayer> ikonia: how do i make text smaller in the root
[15:47] <ikonia> shadeslayer: text smaller in the root ?
[15:47] <n2diy> erUSUL: yes
[15:47] <shadeslayer> as in when i press Ctrl+alt+f1
[15:47] <Seveas> shadeslayer, sit farther away from your desk
[15:47] <lovre> Seveas: ah, i have done that, but i thought once it prepended it, i can remove those lines. Stupid.
[15:47] <shadeslayer> in login menu
[15:47] <new-tu> resolutioh issue - it's like in permanent safe graphics mode
[15:47] <ikonia> shadeslayer: use a frame buffer video option
[15:47] <shadeslayer> lol
[15:47] <ikonia> new-tu: what video card do y ou have
[15:47] <ruizgonza> ola
[15:47] <Seveas> shadearg, you'll want a vga= argument on the kernel command line. Gooose keywords to find details :)
[15:48] <shadeslayer> like when i updated the kernel,the text was of the perfect size for me
[15:48] <ruizgonza> ai alguien¿
[15:48] <ikonia> shadeslayer: or vga=ask
[15:48] <Seveas> gooose? google! (typing on an eee sucks)
[15:48] <new-tu> ikona: waht is the command to find out
[15:48] <shadeslayer> Seveas: nooo that gives me alot of problem
[15:48] <ikonia> new-tu: you should know if your trying to update an Xorg driver
[15:48] <shadeslayer> ' ask ' thats new
[15:48] <Seveas> shadeslayer, then you'll have to live with bigger letters :)
[15:48] <ikonia> shadeslayer: very old actually
[15:48] <shadeslayer> for me i man
[15:48] <new-tu> ikina:  just a minute... that is in my XP laptop and i need to find the cord
[15:48] <shadeslayer> *mean
[15:48] <quibbler> new-tu: lspci | grep VGA
[15:49] <lovre> Seveas: i have edited dhcp.conf to prepend dns servers. How do i restart interface now?
[15:49] <new-tu> VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 01)
[15:49] <new-tu> there ya go  :)
[15:49] <Seveas> lovre, ifdown wlan0; ifup wlan0
[15:49] <new-tu> hardware update manager sees nothing to get
[15:50] <Dreamglider> back
[15:50] <shadeslayer> ok brn
[15:50] <lovre> Seveas: im not on wireless.
[15:50] <shadeslayer> *brb
[15:50] <storbeck> new-tu: pastebin the output of: lspci -n
[15:50] <Seveas> lovre, then ifdown eth0; ifup eth0 :)
[15:50] <Seveas> (or eth1 if that's your interface...)
[15:50] <Schok> hi guys its me again..its about my ubuntu, i cant login the normal way, only CLI. "sudo gdm start" showed an error
[15:50] <lovre> Seveas: theres the problem, when i do ifdown eth0, it says: ifdown: interface eth0 not configured
[15:51] <ikonia> Schok: why are you trying to start it manually ?
[15:51] <Seveas> then just ifup it :)
[15:51] <ikonia> new-tu: what video card do you have
[15:51] <Ketillen> Hello, is there a way i can force ubuntu to run in low-graphics mode.  iv just installed it and it does not detect my graphics card nor my screen.   Iv got a Samsung 226cw monitor and a Nvidia 9500 gt.     when i try to start the machine in normal boot, it just gives me a black screen and then tells me that no screen is found
[15:51] <toddoon> Does somebody knows another good project planner like gnome planner?
[15:51] <Ketillen> the strange thing is that if i start it up from the live-cd it works fine
[15:51] <ikonia> Ketillen: select "safe graphics mode" from teh bood menu
[15:51] <Schok> i was trying to convert ubuntu to look like mac os X using mac4lin and changed some of the grub n usplash settings
[15:51] <new-tu> http://pastebin.com/d551509db
[15:52] <ikonia> new-tu: I asked what video card you have
[15:52] <new-tu> ikona: scroll up  :)
[15:52] <Schok> i tried uninstalling usplash to install splashy but there was an error, so reinstalled usplash
[15:53] <new-tu> ikona: let me grab it from the chat and paste it again
[15:53] <ikonia> new-tu: ok - so if you use that with the line Driver "intel" in your graphics device section of your xorg.conf what happens ?
[15:53] <Schok> dont know if that caused the whole desktop not to load
[15:53] <ikonia> new-tu: I've got it, thank you
[15:53] <Ketillen> Ikonia, i aint got a safe graphics mode-    i got a ubuntu 8.10, kernel 2.5.27-10-generic,  and the same but recovery mode.. and a one with memstat86+ and a reinstall operationsystem
[15:53] <new-tu> ikona:  me stupid windows noob
[15:53] <new-tu> need explicit instructions to do whatever that is
[15:53] <brandonban6> is there any problems with making ext3 fs on an external USB drive? Will be used for backups. Any suggestions?
[15:54] <Ketillen> its a dell specific installation iso i have used because there is problems with the optiplex machines and the standard iso from ubuntus homepage
[15:54] <Dreamglider> sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[15:54] <scunizi> brandonban6: works for me..
[15:54] <Dreamglider> sry
[15:54] <echo_mirage> Seveas, it works. thanks a bunch
[15:54] <ikonia> Ketillen: if you boot into safe mode and pu the line  Driver "vesa" in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file in the Device section for "configured video device" you'll ge safe mode
[15:54] <lar123> moi
[15:54] <Ketillen> il try
[15:54] <rabbit_ubuntu> Heli: I found it...It was in Accessories -_-
[15:54] <rabbit_ubuntu> Thanks again though
[15:54] <rabbit_ubuntu> Later Guys
[15:54] <Schok> is there any way i can restore my desktop thru CLI?
[15:54] <brandonban6> scunizi, do you use mkfs.ext3 -vcj <device>?
[15:55] <ikonia> Schok: without knowing what you've done - no
[15:55] <ikonia> Schok: I suggest you back trace your changes
[15:55] <xiq> hello, is there a way to acces an ntfs windows partition on linux?
[15:55] <brandonban6> xiq, external or internal?
[15:55] <Seveas> xiq, yes :)
[15:55] <shadeslayer> ooooohh irssi rocks without X
[15:55] <xiq> while i'm in linux
[15:55] <xiq> :D
[15:55] <shadeslayer> :P
[15:55] <Schok> ikonia: im trying to but without the desktop i cant do anything...
[15:55] <Dreamglider> when i try to install grub boot loader i get this error -> http://pastebin.com/m57605c5f
[15:55] <ikonia> Schok: then re-instal
[15:55] <ikonia> re-install
[15:56] <new-tu> ikona: how do you do that
[15:56] <Schok> ikonia: oh my...
[15:56] <ikonia> Schok: read the Xorg log - see if there is anything obvious
[15:56] <Ketillen> ikonia, it still gives me "no screens found"   unable to connect to x server    etc
[15:56] <xiq> @Seveas: so, how?
[15:56] <ikonia> Ketillen: can you show me the area of /etc/X11/xorg.conf you just altered
[15:56] <Schok> ikonia: here are some of the errors i saw during login= No usable theme found for 1024x768
[15:57] <Seveas> xiq, if it's a usb drive, plug it in
[15:57] <Schok> ikonia: server init failed
[15:57] <Seveas> if not, look in the Places menu
[15:57] <shadeslayer> oh sorry for that
[15:57] <ikonia> Schok: well you've obviously borked your themes, but I don't think that would stop xorg from loading at all
[15:57] <Schok> hmm
[15:57] <dogmagitron> can anyone tell me why my default gnome theme only loads up when i click on System > Preferences > Appearance?
[15:57] <Schok> ikonia: how do i read the Xorg logs thru CLI?
[15:58] <new-tu> i have to split... is there a web page i can read later, or something
[15:58] <LjL> Schok: less /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[15:58] <Ketillen> ikonia - the machine is on wireless, and i cant remember how to configure the wlan0 via iwconfig to run  wpa2 with and ascii password etc.   and i cant seem to find a utility for wireless configuration (for the shell)
[15:58] <Seveas> Schok, less /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[15:58] <Ketillen> so its kinda hard to copy and paste :)
[15:58] <ikonia> Schok: if you can't read a text file without a gui - I suggest you re-install to get back to sane environment as debugging this will be imposssible
[15:58] <ikonia> Ketillen: ok, I appreciate that
[15:58] <xiq> Seveas: nono, i have 2partitions on my internal HDD. one win and one xub
[15:58] <ikonia> Ketillen: one moment
[15:58] <Seveas> Ketillen, iwconfig can't give you wpa2. You need wpa_supplicant (cli) or NetworkManager (gui)
[15:59] <Ketillen> i seem to remember that configuring wpa_supplicant is a total killer.
[15:59] <Seveas> xiq, yes, and the win one should be in the Places menu. Is it not?
[15:59] <LjL> Schok: does X *not start at all*, or do you at least get to the login screen?
[15:59] <ikonia> Ketillen: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/127272/
[15:59] <ikonia> Ketillen: use that as a guide
[15:59] <Schok> LjL: no gui at all
[15:59] <new-tu> oh well
[15:59] <xiq> no
[15:59] <new-tu> i need to split
[15:59] <brandonban6> so, I partitioned my external HDD with ext3, and it works, however, FDisk still shows it listed as a NTFS drive, did I screw up somewhere?
[15:59] <new-tu> see ya later
[15:59] <Schok> LjL: just login thru CLI
[15:59] <ikonia> new-tu: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/127273/
[15:59] <ikonia>  new-tu use that as a guide
[15:59] <new-tu> thanks for trying  :)
[16:00] <Seveas> xiq, well drat. Do you know the device name of that partition?
[16:00] <Ketillen> il try
[16:00] <LjL> Schok: doesn't even show up briefly? (like a black screen with a pointer in the middle of it, for a split second)
[16:00] <Ketillen> :O)
[16:00] <xiq> Seveas: hm... partition? x.x
[16:00] <LostChain> does anyone know how to install a background for the cube interface
[16:00] <shadeslayer> ikonia: that vga=ask didnt work
[16:00] <Schok> LjL: nope..from GRUB till login its all CLI text's
[16:00] <ikonia> shadeslayer: show me your grub boot line
[16:00] <xiq> seveas: it's called c:
[16:00] <Seveas> xiq, run this command to find it's linux name: sudo fdisk -l
[16:00] <LjL> Schok: what happens if you type "sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart"?
[16:00] <hateball> LostChain: it's called skydome
[16:00] <michael__> I did the encrypted setup for ubuntu using a LVM and all that. When I do a reinstall, will I be able to boot a Live CD and install over my / partition? Or is the dist-upgrade the only way for me?
[16:01] <Seveas> xiq, the name should be someting like /dev/sda1
[16:01] <xiq> Seveas: kk
[16:01] <shadeslayer> ikonia: well the CLI isnt small thats it
[16:01] <ikonia> LjL: macforlin automatix style scripts have been deployed
[16:01] <shadeslayer> one sec
[16:01] <Hell0> HOLA
[16:01] <ikonia> shadeslayer: should only be one line
[16:01] <LostChain> hateball: thanx
[16:01] <rootrot> How do i edit grub to automaticly boot up the kernal i want instead of the first one on the list? Also how do i stop the copmuter from running fschk or whatevr its called from automaticly starting during bootup
[16:01] <Schok> LjL: well, i gotta restart to try that out..shall i?
[16:01] <Hell0> hay alguien que hable español?
[16:01] <brandonban6> LostChain, edit the Compiz Settings Manager in your system menu
[16:01] <ikonia> !es > Hell0
[16:01] <Seveas> xiq, then mount it with this command: sudo mount -t ntfs-3g here_the_device_name /mnt
[16:01] <quibbler> <1es
[16:01] <LjL> !es | hell0
[16:01] <LjL> ikonia: yeah i've noticed that, although i have no idea just how bad those are. but anyway, worth trying a debsums i think
[16:02] <shadeslayer> pasting
[16:02] <xiq> Seveas: no such file or directory dev/sda1
[16:02] <LjL> Schok: ah you're on the same machine?
[16:02] <ikonia> LjL: go for it, just didn't know if you'd seen the delightful scripts,
[16:02] <Ketillen> okay. i got connection via wpa suppliant now.. wpa_passphrase made it alot easyer
[16:02] <Seveas> xiq, you forgot the leading / in the device name :)
[16:02] <shadeslayer> ikonia: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/127275/
[16:02] <LjL> ikonia: i haven't seen the scripts, no, just seen in the backscroll he used mac4lin
[16:02] <xiq> Seveas: jej, thx xD
[16:02] <Schok> LjL: yes i am..kinda sad aint it >.<
[16:02] <Hell0> okey, well, i only want to know it
[16:02] <Hell0> BYE
[16:03] <shadeslayer> ikonia: well i commented grub2 as it wont load
[16:03] <Gartral1> is there a way to rotate the display without hardware support for it?
[16:03] <LjL> Schok: well, i think a better idea would be to restart, but then to reconnect to IRC direct from Ubuntu. you can do that by installing the "irssi" command-line IRC client (sudo apt-get install irssi).
[16:03] <Schok> LjL: so i guess ill try the command u gave..be back in a few mins..
[16:03] <LjL> Schok: /server irc.freenode.net and then /join #ubuntu
[16:03] <ikonia> shadeslayer: grub2 ???
[16:03] <Seveas> Gartral1, system -> preferences -> screen resolution
[16:03] <LostChain> hateball: i suppose i have to download it rather than use synaptic manager
[16:03] <xiq> Seveas: now its mounted, but not there O.O
[16:03] <Schok> LjL: i can chat thru irc without any gui's??
[16:03] <shadeslayer> ikonia: i think after the -12 kernel,yeah it was installed by adept
[16:03] <LjL> Schok: of course
[16:04] <ikonia> !info grub2
[16:04] <shadeslayer> adept acts stupidly sometimes
[16:04] <LjL> Schok: actually a lot of people prefer to use irssi even when they *have* a GUI
[16:04] <storbeck> I use irssi
[16:04] <shadeslayer> ikonia: i know i know
[16:04] <Seveas> LjL, yes, those people are crazy :P
[16:04] <shadeslayer> ikonia: i recently removed it
[16:04] <shadeslayer> ><
[16:04] <LjL> Seveas: i can't say i don't agree
[16:04] <Gartral1> Seveas: yes, thats the the ussual way, but my graphics card wont rotate the display, theres simply nothing other than "none" in that list
[16:05] <mimmo84> ciao
[16:05] <Seveas> Gartral1, that's not a card issue but a driver issue usually. Which driver are you using?
[16:05] <LjL> !it | mimmo84
[16:05] <Dreamglider> when i try to install grub boot loader i get this error -> http://pastebin.com/m57605c5f i need some assistance.
[16:05] <Schok> LjL: lol well ill give it a go, wish me luck!
[16:05] <rootrot> ow do i edit grub to automaticly boot up the kernal i want instead of the first one on the list? Also how do i stop the copmuter from running fschk or whatevr its called from automaticly starting during bootup
[16:05] <hateball> !ccsm | LostChain
[16:05] <Gartral1> the restricte ones
[16:05] <haptiK> hi all - i am having trouble connecting to free wifi in my area - there are a couple services overlapping and i have tryed them all - but it seems to connect and then it gets stuck at the "requesting mac address from <service name>" and then it drops the connection - any ideas why this is? would it be a misconfiguration with my machine?
[16:05] <LjL> Schok: remember, 1) sudo apt-get install irssi 2) start irssi by typing "irssi" 3) /server irc.freenode.net 4) /join #ubuntu
[16:06] <hateball> LostChain: Once you're in the options, it's called Skydome
[16:06] <kdubois1> haptiK: are you _sure_ they are free? they might be open, but the access point may be doing mac address filtering
[16:06] <Gartral1> im getting 3400 ms latency to this channel today, wtf
[16:07] <jhosep007> holaaaaaaaa
[16:07] <rootrot> how do i remove fschk from my systems startup procedures? it runs every 30 or 40 times i reboot.
[16:07] <storbeck> Schok: http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/6834/screenshot.jpg irc with no gui ;)
[16:07] <LjL> !es | jhosep007
[16:07] <rabbit_ubuntu> Hey guys
[16:07] <Pretto> will jaunty be a lts version?
[16:07] <Schok> ok thanx all!
[16:07] <Schok> brb~
[16:07] <Seveas> Pretto, no
[16:07] <LostChain> hateball: i have ccsm installed but it is not listed
[16:07] <Seveas> Pretto, the next LTS version will be Lusty LLama or whatever name they find for 10.04
[16:08] <rabbit_ubuntu> Im having problems installing XP to Vbox...When it loads, and requests me to choose boot device. I choose "cd". Because thats where the disk is. Then it says FAILED
[16:08] <brandonban6> !tunefs
[16:08] <rabbit_ubuntu> Why does this happen?
[16:08] <Pretto> thank you save as, i have 400 machines to install an ubuntu lts version for the government
[16:08] <Gartral1> Seveas: im using the restricted drivers
[16:08] <LjL> Seveas: i really hope they find something else
[16:08] <hateball> LostChain: should be under System -> Settings. Unless it's the simple one... then I'm not sure
[16:08] <Pretto> thank you saveas, i have 400 machines to install an ubuntu lts version for the government
[16:08] <Seveas> Pretto, then use 8.04 "Hardy Heron" :)
[16:08] <Pretto> Seveas, yes :D
[16:09] <storbeck> Pretto: You would save time if you rsync'd them
[16:09] <Seveas> LjL, me too, but I fear the worst :P
[16:09] <LostChain> hateball: i am in system compiz config settings
[16:09] <brandonban6> LostChain, hateball  the simple one is System > Preferences > Simple CompizConfig Settings Manager
[16:09] <tiredbones> I like to thanks those folks for helping me to recover my pw file. history on what happen.  I created a user admin. when i did this, the user i used to install my system lost its sudo privilege. my distro is 8.10.
[16:10] <Pretto> storbeck, I will do that, but I will need to customize it instalation to make it look like XP, the government asked that to make the transition smooth
[16:10] <Gartral1> Seveas: im using the restricted drivers
[16:10] <storbeck> Ew, I'm sorry you have to do that
[16:10] <hateball> LostChain: Well... it's somewhere there. Not on english Ubuntu so not sure what the translation would be other than Skydome :)
[16:10] <LostChain> brandonban6: then where is skydome
[16:10] <xiq> Seveas: thank you alot :D
[16:11] <LostChain> hateball: ??? so what should i do to install it
[16:11] <RichardWolfVI> Hey, I have a question: Is there something wrong if the System Monitor shows CPU usage peaking at 100% in all my CPUs?
[16:11] <storbeck> RichardWolfVI: yes
[16:12] <hateball> LostChain: it's installed. You just find the option for skydome, then choose a wallpaper and level of zoom
[16:12] <brandonban6> LostChain, sorry gave you the wrong path, its System > Preferences CompizConfig Settings manager, then you edit the cube properties, there is an option to the change the Skydome image
[16:12] <storbeck> RichardWolfVI: run top and kill off the procs that are using up all of the cpu
[16:12] <rabbit_ubuntu> Anyone able to assist?
[16:12] <LostChain> brandonban6: oh ok
[16:12] <RichardWolfVI> storbeck: I gues Wish was the one to blame, the system seems quite normal right now.
[16:12] <RichardWolfVI> *guess
[16:14] <haptiK> kdubois1: It's called "Free Public WiFi" and is offered by the cafe i am sitting in... i'm pretty sure its free
[16:14] <Gartral1> Seveas: im using the restricted drivers
[16:15] <dilbert> does any one here have experience with ubuntu ona sun e5500?
[16:15] <sirlark> Hi, I'm trying to help a friend out who's using ubuntu, and I'm not familiar with aptitude (I'm a gentooist --- sorry ;) ). I've set up the local uni's repositiories in his /etc/apt/sources.list, and exported appropriate http_proxy env vars, but I can't figure out how to specify proxy username and password. Consequently, 'aptitude update' fails with 407 errors
[16:16] <storbeck> w00t @ another gentoo user
[16:16] <dilbert> what's up dic
[16:16] <dilbert> disc
[16:16] <dilbert> no one here use Sun?
[16:18] <toddoon> Is there a way to modify Java graphics to look like much more as Gnome interface?
[16:18] <t3rra> hi guys
[16:18] <dft_> is there some app or config that controls file associations in ubuntu?
[16:18] <Gartral1> is there a way to rotate the display without hardware/driver support for it?
[16:19] <RichardWolfVI> toddoon: You mean to have GNOME's look and feel at runtime, or pregramming them to look like GNOME?
[16:19] <t3rra> i new in ubuntu and i try many times to config xorg for nvidia driver i have 2 260gtx video cards and monitor 22" can some buddy helpme
[16:19] <sirlark> for anyone else who's ever struggled with the proxy problem on the command line, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1575
[16:19] <rfm> sirlark: read "map apt.conf" for how to set proxy in the conf file, use http://user:pass@host:port/
[16:19] <yow|x2> dft - preferred applications and also right click > properties in nautilus, open with
[16:19] <sirlark> rfm: thanks, just figured it out
[16:20] <RichardWolfVI> dft_: You can right click and choose the command/application for a derteminate fila and make it the default.
[16:20] <brandonban6> t3rra, what is the problem?
[16:20] <RichardWolfVI> *file
[16:20] <rikkardo> this is surely something critical: how to increase the area in the bottom right corner of windows (to resize)??? mine (8.04) is like 1x1 pixel which makes it very troublesome to resize windows...
[16:20] <Discipulus> anyone here have experience with Ubuntu in a multiprocessor, raid type environment
[16:20] <toddoon> RichardWolfVI: heu... when i run Java applications i would like it correspond more to Gnome app (fonts, color...)
[16:20] <Discipulus> which happens to use the sun architecture
[16:21] <Discipulus> ???
[16:21] <storbeck> rikkardo: Use a different theme
[16:21] <RichardWolfVI> toddoon: Show me an example I can try.
[16:21] <rikkardo> storbeck, sure its theme-dependant? i feel like its always the same
[16:21] <t3rra> brandonban6 after install nvidia driver my xserver don work some buddy tellme i need to config xorg.cfg but i dotn know how
[16:21] <storbeck> rikkardo: Some are different, but for the most part. It's always the same
[16:22] <rikkardo> storbeck: no way to change that setting manually?
[16:22] <storbeck> I don't think so
[16:22] <wers> my swap partition doesnt automount because i created it when ubuntu is already installed. any idea on how to fix this?
[16:22] <dilbert> ubuntu on sparc?
[16:22] <RichardWolfVI> t3rra: You can reconfigure X.Org
[16:22] <yow|x2> wers  - add it to fstab
[16:23] <Pythack> Hi
[16:23] <t3rra> yes but i dont know how
[16:23] <t3rra> i have 2 vieo cards
[16:23] <RichardWolfVI> t3rra: First, you must start in safe mode.
[16:23] <brandonban6> t3rra, after installing the nvidia drivers, you should be able to open nvidia-settings as root "sudo nvidia-settings" and then it configure your video card, select "apply" and "save configuration to xserver" and Nvidia will merge the changes to your xorg.conf file.
[16:23] <murlidhar> i am not able to boot into linux unless i manually disconnect my cd-rom drives :(
[16:24] <kien> my xserver is failed
[16:24] <wers> yow|x2 how do i know the UUID?
[16:24] <RichardWolfVI> murlidhar: What happens exactly?
[16:24] <kien> help me
[16:24] <oCean_> wers: use command "sudo /sbin/blkid"
[16:24] <murlidhar> RichardWolfVI, it gives me some strange numbers
[16:24] <RichardWolfVI> kien: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[16:24] <t3rra> this is error i have You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver. Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server.
[16:25] <RichardWolfVI> murlidhar: Well, try to write them down.
[16:25] <Gartral1> is there a way to rotate the display without hardware/driver support for it?
[16:25] <the_dark_warrio> I'm moving some files from my windows HD to my Ubuntu and all of them comes with "chmod 777". Is there a way to avoid this or must I change permitions manually for each file?
[16:26] <RichardWolfVI> t3rra: Well, doas told ;)
[16:26] <wers> oCean_, thank you very much :)
[16:26] <RichardWolfVI> *do as
[16:26] <dilbert> ubuntu sparc?
[16:26] <ikonia> dilbert: dead
[16:26] <JordiRT_> hi everyone, I'm triyng to save files from a failed disk, I booted with ubuntu-rescue-remix and  plugged a usb external disk but I cant find how to mount it. When I connect it I get this: [  388.2003009] sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: Writethrough
[16:26] <MFen> how do you cleanly restart networking now that we use networkmanager?
[16:26] <MFen> i use to be able to do /etc/init.d/networking restart but that doesn't seem to kick networkmanager
[16:26] <RichardWolfVI> t3rra: On a terminal, run 'sudo nvidia-xconfig' and restart X
[16:26] <murlidhar>  RichardWolfVI it gives some drdy errors . do u want me to note it down ?
[16:27] <RichardWolfVI> murlidhar: well, it'd be useful.
[16:27] <njk123> my wired network is still not working
[16:27] <murlidhar> RichardWolfVI, k brb
[16:27] <hzc> hello i come here for the first time
[16:27] <njk123> what did those updates do to mess up my linux installation
[16:28] <akgraner> hzc: hello
[16:28] <oCean_> JordiRT_: do you know what partition and filesystem is on the /dev/sdb disk?
[16:28] <RichardWolfVI> njk123: biit to an earlier kernel installation, if it works, stay with it.
[16:28] <akgraner> hzc: I am new myself so welcome
[16:28] <oCean_> JordiRT_: you can use "sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb" to find out
[16:29] <LostChain> hateball: thanx i figured it out
[16:29] <LostChain> brandonban6: thanx i figured it out
[16:29] <hateball> LostChain: happy to help :)
[16:29] <Nivenaya> uh.  if i'm running Compiz and I open a popup or a menu in firefox, Compiz segfaults.  this has only been happening since my last boot.  any ideas, guys?
[16:30] <LostChain> hateball: now all i need to do is figure out how to animate a picture for it
[16:30] <brandonban6> LostChain, you are welcome!
[16:31] <t3rra> RichardWolfVI i did befor but my xserver dont work i have to reinstall ubuntu and i dont want do it again
[16:31] <RichardWolfVI> Nivenaya: Restart X, and try to see if it still happens, if it doeas, reboot.
[16:31] <RichardWolfVI> *does
[16:31] <cratel> how do I find out the user associated with apache2? intrepid 32 bit...
[16:31] <JordiRT_> oCean_: I dont get nothing with that line...
[16:31] <Pici> cratel: Its www-data by default
[16:31] <t3rra> command to restart x
[16:31] <t3rra> t?
[16:31] <JordiRT_> oCean_: if I replace with -/sda I get my local hd partitions
[16:32] <RichardWolfVI> t3rra. Ctrl+Alt+Backspace
[16:32] <RichardWolfVI> t3rra
[16:32] <t3rra> thanks
[16:32] <cratel> Pici: tried that. getting "forbidden" errors from apache...
[16:32] <oCean_> JordiRT_: than it seems to be a completely clean (e.g. without filesystem) disk ?
[16:32] <murlidhar> RichardWolfVI, ata2.00 exception emask 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x2 frozen
[16:32] <rootrot> if i install windows 7 beta will i lose grub?
[16:32] <murlidhar> RichardWolfVI, status : {DRDY}
[16:32] <JordiRT_> oCean_: I formatted it before plugin in in order to backup everything there
[16:32] <RichardWolfVI> murlidhar: Does the drive work on other computer?
[16:32] <Schok> well guys, im back..but not thru ubuntu..here's a recap of what is my problem for those whe're not around. I can't login thru ubuntu with ANY gui at all, only CLI right from GRUB..and i was told to try "sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart" but it returned an error saying something like this: *Stopping GNOME Display Manager... return: 24: Illegal number: Stopping *Starting GNOME Display Manager... return: 24: Illegal number: Startin
[16:32] <Pici> cratel: Check /etc/apache2/envvars for the default user then
[16:33] <Pythack> Hi
[16:33] <murlidhar> RichardWolfVI, it works on windows xp
[16:33] <murlidhar> RichardWolfVI, i am booted through windows now
[16:33] <cratel> Pici: I was wrong. The .htaccess owner was root. Changing to www-data fixed. Thx!
[16:33] <murlidhar> RichardWolfVI, i am also able to burn disks
[16:33] <Schok> LjL: are u still there?
[16:33] <oCean_> JordiRT_: ok. You should create a filesystem on the disk
[16:33] <Gartral1> is there a way to rotate the display without hardware/driver support for it?
[16:33] <murlidhar> RichardWolfVI, the worst is live cd too refuses to boot up
[16:33] <LjL> Schok: yes
[16:34] <Schok> LjL: yes im back but...with failure
[16:34] <RichardWolfVI> murlidhar: I'm looking in Google for similar errors, are you able to boot Ubuntu in safe mode?
[16:34] <Schok> i posted the errors somewhere above, or would u like me to paste it again
[16:34] <murlidhar> RichardWolfVI, nope
[16:34] <oCean_> JordiRT_: are you in GUI? Then open the partitioner: "sudo gparted"
[16:35] <RichardWolfVI> murlidhar: Maybe your Live CD image is corrupt. Try a MD5 checksum of the iso and compare it to the official one.
[16:35] <murlidhar> RichardWolfVI, tried 4 live cds including fedora
[16:35] <LjL> Schok: you really should be in ubuntu because i don't have a single command that will help you, you'd need to try a number of things...
[16:36] <Schok> LjL: if only apt-get was usable..i dont get it
[16:36] <RichardWolfVI> murlidhar: None of them work?
[16:36] <JordiRT_> oCean_: I can restart with ubuntu install disk and do that
[16:36] <murlidhar> RichardWolfVI, nopes
[16:36] <murlidhar> :(
[16:36] <Schok> LjL: how can theme changing affect apt-get
[16:37] <LjL> Schok: if apt-get isn't usable then i'm afraid your best bet is reinstall. your ubuntu cd should also have a rescue mode that might help without *completely* reinstalling
[16:37] <RichardWolfVI> Gartral1: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=148177
[16:37] <murlidhar> RichardWolfVI, i cross checked the slave and master jumpers too but they seem fine
[16:37] <LjL> Schok: i can't answer that, depends on what exactly is wrong with apt-get - might be broken packages
[16:37] <Schok> LjL: the thing is my cd isn't around, lend it to a friend..wanted to try OpenSUSE but its in the ubuntu partition T_T
[16:38] <Schok> havent burn the iso yet
[16:38] <LjL> Schok: well burn another
[16:38] <Schok> that'll take the whole night T_T its been 2 days without ubuntu..oh the suffering
[16:38] <RichardWolfVI> murlidhar: Make and model of you drive?
[16:38] <ciggar> any body say how to  conecte a usb modem novatel ovation mc 990d en ubuntu 8.4
[16:38] <mestopholeese> I have a problem with a proxy setting.  It does not go away when I unset it.
[16:39] <murlidhar> RichardWolfVI, the dvd is sony  and the cd rom is LG
[16:39] <Schok> and using windows right now..makes me feel so...unsafe...
[16:39] <Schok> lol
[16:39] <Schok> LjL: so anyway, the rescue cd is the same as the Live CD rite? is it complicated to do the restore?
[16:39] <RichardWolfVI> murlidhar: Both don't work?
[16:39] <murlidhar> RichardWolfVI,  i put the dvd as the master and cd-rom as the slave
[16:39] <Nivenaya> RichardWolfVI:  that seems to have inexplicably solved the problem.  curiously, the reason I rebooted right before the compiz crash was because my networking spontaneously failed.
[16:39] <LjL> Schok: it's the same cd, yes, but i've never tried the restore option - it's a new thing
[16:39] <Nivenaya> I am beginning to suspect my RAM.
[16:39] <murlidhar> RichardWolfVI, they work perfectly fine in windows xp
[16:40] <Schok> anyone here tried the new restore option from the ubuntu live CD?
[16:40] <MFen> for example, does anyone know how to force a new dhcp request when networkmanager is in use?
[16:40] <RichardWolfVI> murlidhar: I mean, Is one or both the deives whi¿o fail to on GBU/Linux boot?
[16:40] <murlidhar> MFen, sudo dhclient
[16:40] <MFen> it's really frustrating that i have to reboot every time there's a problem with the network.  i've been using /etc/init.d/networking restart for *years*
[16:41] <Nivenaya> murlidhar, that's because ubuntu and windows identify and arrange drives differently.  i've also contrarywise had a situation where linux would read my drives but windows -wouldn't-
[16:41] <michael__> MFen: I am in the same boat as you, I finally uninstalled network manager and do everything manually
[16:41] <MFen> murlidhar: dhclient is already running. how do you cleanly restart the whole network stack (without rebooting)
[16:41] <RichardWolfVI> MFen: I'm not sure, but try dhclient
[16:41] <Myrtti> MFen: restart NetworkManager from init.d?
[16:41] <regeya> NetworkManager < *
[16:41]  * Myrtti doesn't know
[16:42] <MFen> maybe that onae
[16:42] <MFen> one
[16:42] <regeya> my screwy setup on my main desktop is part of the reason I quit using ubuntu on that'un, because I got tired of fighting with NetworkManager
[16:42] <mestopholeese> I have a problem with a proxy setting.  It does not go away when I unset it. Can anyone help?
[16:42] <regeya> and all the other automagic tools
[16:43] <Nivenaya> is there some way to have the default memtest86 installation write results to disk?
[16:43] <RichardWolfVI> regeya: Actually, NetworkManager is a Red Hat/Novell product ;)
[16:43] <regeya> RichardWolfVI: that's nice; that would explain why it was so easy to disable on fedora, then ;-)
[16:43] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[16:44] <turtle_> woah
[16:45] <savid> Hi, I'm getting really angry at gimp right now.  I'm trying to do a fixed-aspect-ratio selection,  and it keeps making it a square.    I click the select tool,  click "Fixed", select "Aspect ratio",   and in the "size" boxes,  I enter "1" and "2".   But when I start dragging a box,  it makes it a fixed square.
[16:45] <RichardWolfVI> savid: Screenshot.
[16:46] <savid> RichardWolfVI,   screenshot?  how would that help?
[16:46] <AlexMax> Hi, I'm having an issue with a program.  It works fine, but for some reason it's constantly greyed out as if it was unresponsive.  How do i disable grey windows (preferably for just that one window, but any will do)
[16:46] <turtle_> why?
[16:46] <hwilde> ping ?
[16:46] <savid> RichardWolfVI,  oh you just want a screenshot of my toolbox?
[16:46] <RichardWolfVI> savid: I meant thet.
[16:46] <turtle_> ton of people in here
[16:47] <Jet``> Hi, I'd like to allow ftpuser to have +rx-w rights on a vfat partition auto mounted by ubuntu, how do I do that?
[16:47] <AlexMax> How do i disable the 'grey window' effect when a program is unresponsive?
[16:47] <savid> RichardWolfVI,  http://i44.tinypic.com/4gn12s.png
[16:47] <crashmax03> Hello world :)
[16:47] <AlexMax> I dont want any of the other eye candy to go away, just that one.  I have the compiz configurator installed.
[16:47] <turtle_> AlexMax, I dont think you can
[16:47] <LjL> turtle_: please don't contribute to the noise caused by the netsplit.
[16:47] <RichardWolfVI> AlexMax: That's in Compiz Config
[16:47] <AlexMax> RichardWolfVI: Yeah, but what setting?  I've been looking around for it and its not obvious or else I'm blind.
[16:48] <AlexMax> I've got a program that grey screens in spite of the fact that it runs fine
[16:49] <Nivenaya> AlexMax, Fading Windows -> Dim Unresponsive Windows
[16:50] <Mextux> I'm trying to play a DVD on Hardy Heron but the sound is (don't know how to say it) slow and the video is something "weird". I'm using VLC Player
[16:50] <crashmax03> i've got a problem with theme in Ubuntu. When i apply a theme,not all parts are applied (ex : the bar between the 'ubuntu start menu' and the time is not changed). So i have tested with another user and everything is ok with it. Anyone knows how set by default theme preference ? Thanks
[16:50] <savid> RichardWolfVI,   any ideas?  have you tried it yourself yet?
[16:51] <saini-sanjeet> hey guys
[16:51] <RichardWolfVI> Mextux: Are you using ALSA; PulseAudio or OSS?
[16:51] <saini-sanjeet> how r u doing?
[16:51] <RichardWolfVI> savid: I'm trying to reproduce it.
[16:51] <savid> RichardWolfVI,  does it work for you?
[16:51] <savid> RichardWolfVI,  It seems like no matter what I do, I get a square
[16:51] <Mextux> ehm how can I know which one am I using ? :(
[16:51] <Jet``> Hi, I'd like to allow user "ftpuser" to have +rx-w rights on a vfat partition (external disk) auto mounted by ubuntu, how do I do that?
[16:52] <AlexMax> Nivenaya: I dont see that option.  I'm running hardy
[16:52] <saini-sanjeet> hey, could someone help me on setting equalizers setting in ubuntu in Media Players like VLC?
[16:52] <RichardWolfVI> savid: Shouldn't the aspect ratio be, say, a ratio?
[16:52] <Nivenaya> AlexMax, it's under "effects."
[16:52] <phrac> savid: seems to work fine for me
[16:52] <crashmax03> i've got a problem with theme in Ubuntu. When i apply a theme,not all parts are applied (ex : the bar between the 'ubuntu start menu' and the time is not changed). So i have tested with another user and everything is ok with it. Anyone knows how set by default theme preference ? Thanks
[16:52] <savid> RichardWolfVI,  where would I enter that ratio?
[16:52] <savid> phrac,  really?  how are you doing it?
[16:52] <_VIM_> !repeat | crashmax03
[16:52] <phrac> savid: put "1:2" for the ratio
[16:52] <Nivenaya> AlexMax, if all else fails click "advanced search" and search for "unresponsive."
[16:53] <RichardWolfVI> savid: What phrac said.
[16:53] <JordiRT_> oCean_: My device didnt mount when I booted up with ubuntu install but I can see it in this machine, macosx, its formatted FAT32
[16:53] <Nivenaya> i think savid was already trying that.
[16:53] <AlexMax> Nivenaya: Nah it doesnt exist.  Unchecking fading windows entirely got it fixed though
[16:53] <savid> RichardWolfVI, phrac   ughh.     that's not very user-friendly :-P    I tried   .5,  1/2,  etc...    It doesn't even hint to the format it requires
[16:54] <RichardWolfVI> savid: ¿What are you trying to do exacty?
[16:54] <AlexMax> I got another question.  How do I set up a .config directory for programs?  I've installed ubuntu server and I'm using freenx to connect to it, and a program is complaining that there isn't any .config
[16:54] <AlexMax> when loading a particular program
[16:54] <jrib> AlexMax: you need to be more specific
[16:54] <KeyserSoze> i am using the fglrx driver with my lenovo thinkpad w500 with firegl graphics.  the laptop is plugged into the lenovo advanced mini dock, and my 30" dell 3007wfp is plugged into that.  the 30" monitor looks to be mirroring the laptop display, but the image is severely corrupted
[16:55] <KeyserSoze> is there a ubuntu tool for fixing it, or do i need to edit xorg.conf?
[16:55] <RichardWolfVI> KeyserSoze: Reconfigure X
[16:55] <Nivenaya> AlexMax, from terminal:  mkdir .config
[16:55] <Nivenaya> :)
[16:55] <AlexMax> jrib: I installed geany from source and it's complaining about not being able to find a 'configuration directory'.  By that I'm assuming it's talking about ~/.config, which is set up on a desktop machine automatically.
[16:56] <AlexMax> I'm connected to my server through freenx
[16:56] <RichardWolfVI> KeyserSoze: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[16:56] <jrib> AlexMax: pastebin actual output.  It may be just be some warning or informative message
[16:56] <savid> RichardWolfVI,      you guys answered my question,  I'm just complaining b/c the answer wasn't as obvious as I expected :-P
[16:56] <RichardWolfVI> AlexMax: I dont know the programme, so maybe take a look at the developer's page.
[16:57] <mounir> he
[16:57] <ciggar> dios ak nadie no save
[16:57] <mounir> hi
[16:58] <mounir> je souhaiterai intaller des logitiel sur ubuntu
[16:58] <RichardWolfVI> ciggar: Why do you say that?
[16:58] <_VIM_> !fr
[16:58] <mounir> comment fuat til proceder
[16:58] <RichardWolfVI> !fr mounir
[16:58] <mounir> i have a problem
[16:58] <jrib> mounir: /join #ubuntu-fr
[16:58] <RichardWolfVI> !fr|mounir
[16:59] <pompa> hi eglish speakers (who actually speaks french :-/) I'm translating a software and I need an hint about a phrase
[16:59] <mounir> i have a probleme because a want install a program
[16:59] <pompa> The Amazon.com associate's ID is necessarily
[16:59] <pompa> included, so any referral payments are duly collected.
[16:59] <jrib> pompa: #ubuntu-offtopic, this channel is just for ubuntu support
[17:00] <pompa> it's a matter of seconds
[17:00] <pompa> can you feel a sort of dislike for the policy of amazon in that expression?
[17:00] <jrib> pompa: not in this channel please
[17:01] <RichardWolfVI> Je ne pas parle Français, sorry.
[17:02] <arvind_khadri> !fr | RichardWolfVI
[17:03] <bruoos> on sudoers file,   user2  localhost=(root) /sbin/ifup,/sbin/ifdown         but user2 is still denied to do ifup eth1 because /var/run/network/ifstate is only 0644  ?
[17:03] <RichardWolfVI> arvind_khadri: ...you didn't mean it actually, right?
[17:03] <ope_> anyone here get peap working in a domain envoriment
[17:03] <tasgr86> hello
[17:03] <arvind_khadri> RichardWolfVI, aah i dont know french, did you by any chance meant that you want to go to that room /?? :)
[17:03] <tasgr86> bye
[17:04] <mounir> hello
[17:04] <pompa> jrib: ok (quite rude :P) only joking, I suppose I know how difficult is to maintain some good manners, bye!
[17:04] <mounir> jhvjhqbl*
[17:05] <RichardWolfVI> arvind_khadri: I just said to the Frenchies that I don't speak French.
[17:05] <D_likescookies> yay! I updated my gfx driver on a command line! and almost had no help to do it. ^^
[17:05] <arvind_khadri> RichardWolfVI, oh sorry...
[17:05] <Chewie[]> hey, where can i go to set up a second x server? i would ordinarily do soemthing with inittab, but it's phased out.
[17:06]  * RichardWolfVI gives D_likescookies a cookie.
[17:06] <D_likescookies> lol tyvm, I like that.
[17:08] <_VIM_> 5 minutes of no questions, just joining/parting, am I lagging or something?
[17:08] <RichardWolfVI> _VIM_: And a netsplit. Don't forget the netsplit :P
[17:08]  * _VIM_ checks his ping
[17:08] <_VIM_> :)
[17:09] <mestopholeese> I have a problem with a proxy setting.  It does not go away when I unset it. Can anyone help?
[17:09] <jrib> Chewie[]: /etc/gdm/gdm.conf* (read the comments)
[17:09] <kapat> I want to import a local certificate authority, so that empathy will use it.  Where do I put it?
[17:10] <kapat> I tried copying it to /etc/ssl/certs, but it didn't make a difference for empathy
[17:10] <dilbert> Sorry, stepped away for a little
[17:10] <vanksi> has anyone gotten Option GlobeTrotter GT MAX 7.2 working?
[17:10] <dilbert> did anyone know about ubunut on sparc?
[17:11] <_VIM_> !anyone | vanksi
[17:11] <hb|work> dilbert: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2008-March/000400.html
[17:12] <mib_bjo0no> hi
[17:12] <AJC_Z0> How do I prevent Update Manager from stealing focus?
[17:12] <_VIM_> AJC_Z0: I hate that too
[17:12] <bruoos> on sudoers file,   user2  localhost=(root) /sbin/ifup,/sbin/ifdown         but user2 is still denied to do ifup eth1 because /var/run/network/ifstate is only 0644  ?
[17:12] <hb|work> dilbert: debian still supports sparc, however
[17:12] <RPS> Hello Guys, I've been thinking of trying out the KDE gui ....any words of advice? I'm starting from scratch, so I'm a bit clueless (what else is new) on the matter.
[17:13] <hb|work> RPS: easiest way is to install kubuntu-desktop package
[17:13] <lasivian> can anyone recommend a good keylogger besides "userspace"? thanks
[17:13] <RichardWolfVI> RPS: It's not hard to try out, it's a bit resource intensive, but just install the package, everything will be fine.
[17:13] <dilbert> I am trying to install Ubuntu on a Sun Server (Sparc) because I HATE redhat/fedora/aurora (really, I just hate yum)
[17:13] <_VIM_> AJC_Z0: I would assume in compiz one could set a regex something or another for that particular window to not steal focus, but that's a bit beyond my expertise :)
[17:13] <mib_bjo0no> can anyone tell me why ubuntu is better than xp ?
[17:13] <_VIM_> mib_bjo0no: don't poll here please
[17:13] <_VIM_> !poll > mib_bjo0no
[17:13] <kdub> AJC_Z0: you can set focus stealing prevention levels
[17:14] <dilbert> the problem is, when i boot the cd, it will start, but in the install it won't find the HDD's
[17:14] <dilbert> all HDD's are in a D1000
[17:14] <RichardWolfVI> mib_bjo0no: It's more stable and secure, to start with. Do you have any problems with it?
[17:14] <dilbert> which is attached via scsi
[17:14] <danopia> hi
[17:14] <cTn> hi guys, if i could ask, do i still need swap partition for ubuntu, when i have 3gb of ram on my laptop?
[17:14] <dilbert> so I need to load some special drivers/modules into the kernel
[17:14] <dilbert> i think
[17:14] <mib_bjo0no> RichardWolfVI: I'm downloading it now
[17:14] <RichardWolfVI> cTn: Yes.
[17:14] <kdub> cTn: its advisable. it is not necessary though.
[17:15] <RichardWolfVI> cTn: It's better not to suffer when your memory depletes.
[17:16] <_VIM_> ctn for a laptop, kind of necessary because of hybernation and whatnot, least from what Ive heard in here anyways...
[17:16] <Marsol0> I know ubottu just warned against this, but does anyone have wireless working reliably in Ubuntu on an Acer Aspire One 8.9
[17:16] <dilbert> any help with what I posted ^ ?
[17:16] <kdub> yeah, afaik, its necessary for hibernation, but not suspend
[17:17] <Eressolar> dilbert: if someone has an answer, you'll be the first to know. no need to repeat yourself.
[17:18] <cTn> _VIM_: oh, and how big it should be, ? abou 4 gig is enough?
[17:18] <_VIM_> cTn: I've always heard it's 1.5 to 2 X your ram
[17:19] <RichardWolfVI> cTn: 4 GB might be enpugh, bt don't be cheap :P
[17:19] <RichardWolfVI> *enough
[17:19] <sysdoc> Marsol0, have you seen this page? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AspireOne
[17:19] <RichardWolfVI> *but
[17:19] <cTn> RichardWolfVI: ok thank u guys :)
[17:20] <Marsol0> sysdoc: I have. But that isn't reliable enough. I'm curious to what other people have done to see if there's something I may have overlooked.
[17:20] <_VIM_> if you got the hdd space, I suppose give it 4-6 gigs, if space is limited give it 2 or3 maybe
[17:20] <Anarhist> i've just installed jaunty, and now when i go to any folder in the menu rather than opening nautilus it opens up Audacious and tries to play that folder's contents as files
[17:20] <_VIM_> !jaunty | Anarhist
[17:21] <Anarhist> thanks
[17:21] <sysdoc> Marsol0, Did you try blacklist module acer_wmi ?
[17:21] <Marsol0> I haven't. I'll have to give that a whirl.
[17:21] <Duddle> hello! I have a small script that I would like to run at bootup. but in the script I use sudo, so I'd have to enter my password.
[17:22] <Duddle> I've tried adding it through the session startup-programs, but since it will not open a terminal or something, it doesn't work
[17:22] <zilleplus> hey guys i got 2the harddisk in my computer how do i format it in linux ubuntu servr 8
[17:22] <Duddle> what is the correct way of doing that, adding a script that needs your password to bootup?
[17:22] <RichardWolfVI> zilleplus: Use gparted.
[17:23] <zilleplus> is it also on sever edition i did't know
[17:23] <sysdoc> Marsol0, the 2.6.27-11-generic kernel breaks the MIC card too
[17:23] <sysdoc> MIC=NIC sorry
[17:23] <RichardWolfVI> zilleplus: Yep, Ubuntu server isn't that dissimilar to de desktop one
[17:23] <FFForever> how can i stop services like php/mysql from starting on boot?
[17:23] <heatmzzr> anyone familiar with Wine?
[17:23] <Marsol0> sysdoc: yeah, I know about that. I don't mind booting into an earlier kernel to get around that.
[17:24] <RichardWolfVI> zilleplus: I'm using it because it has PAE, mainly.
[17:24] <AJC_Z0> kdub: That sounds useful. Please point me in the right direction
[17:24] <Pici> !boot > Duddle
[17:24] <Pici> !boot > FFForever
[17:24] <zilleplus> ooh
[17:24] <RichardWolfVI> heatmzzr: Try to make a more specific question
[17:24] <zilleplus> i wanna set op ftp server
[17:24] <heatmzzr> Trying to install windows within ubuntu. Wine error says I need 445m of free temp space, it their a was to configure wine with more space?
[17:25] <vald0r> Question: If I un-install mysql with apt-get and reinstall it. will it destroy my mysql database's?
[17:25] <FFForever> also i have a few bash scripts i want to turn into system commands how can i do that?
[17:25] <Pici> FFForever: alias them.
[17:25] <hb|work> FFForever: you want the commands available to everyone?
[17:25] <FFForever> hb|work, nah
[17:26] <hb|work> FFForever: then, like Pici said, alias them, or mark them executable and put them in ~/bin/
[17:26] <FFForever> thanks hb|work
[17:27] <hb|work> heatmzzr: you're trying to install windows within ubuntu with wine?
[17:27] <RichardWolfVI> heatmzzr: I guess you are making a mistake, Wine is for running Windows apps, you don't need to install Windows.
[17:27] <Duddle> Pici: thanks, will try
[17:27] <heatmzzr> will it run any winblows app??
[17:27] <vald0r> heatmzzr: You can use VirtualBox if you wish to install windows inside linux
[17:27] <Pici> !appdb | heatmzzr
[17:28] <RichardWolfVI> heatmzzr: The most known, yes
[17:28] <heatmzzr> ok guys thanks
[17:28] <dilbert> SPARC!!! ANY ONE HAVE ANY THING ON SPARC?
[17:28] <Pici> dilbert: Lose the caps, please.
[17:28] <dilbert> OR SUN!!
[17:28] <hb|work> dilbert: did you read the link I gave you earlier?
[17:28] <dilbert> sorry
[17:28] <dilbert> i was out for a little
[17:29] <dilbert> and lost the scrollback
[17:29] <calc> dilbert: sparc is good for doorstop :)
[17:29] <Dreamglider> Can someone tell my  why ubuntu wont mount my ntfs disk ? output from fdisk -l and mount -all > http://pastebin.com/m70da6f01
[17:29] <hb|work> dilbert: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2008-March/000400.html
[17:29] <RichardWolfVI> Dreamglider:The device '/dev/sda1' doesn't have a valid NTFS.
[17:29] <RichardWolfVI> Maybe you selected the wrong device? Or the whole disk instead of a
[17:29] <RichardWolfVI> partition (e.g. /dev/hda, not /dev/hda1)? Or the other way around?
[17:30] <dilbert> thanks
[17:30] <hb|work> dilbert: ubuntu no long supports sparc in new releases (but debian still does)
[17:30] <calc> Dreamglider: because you are trying to mount sda1 as ntfs which is linux swap partition?
[17:30] <vald0r> Anyone familiar with mysql servers?
[17:30] <dilbert> well, as far as sparc, I was donated 3  servers with massive storage, so i want to use them
[17:30] <Dreamglider> calc: i didi mount -all it should mount all the disks
[17:30] <calc> Dreamglider: your ntfs partition is sdc1 according to your pastebin
[17:30] <dilbert> vald0r: sure am
[17:30] <calc> Dreamglider: yes and it appears your /etc/fstab is setup to claim sda1 is ntfs
[17:30] <dilbert> vald0r: what do you need
[17:30] <calc> Dreamglider: you didn't post your /etc/fstab so i can't tell for certain
[17:30] <hb|work> dilbert: 6.06 LTS probably the best ubuntu release to use, alternatively I'd go with Debian 5.0 if you're against rpm based distros
[17:31] <Pretto>     Dreamglider  try the mount command and paste   the output on pastebin
[17:31] <Dreamglider> calc: allright all paste it
[17:31] <vald0r> dilbert:  I need re install mysql.  But need a heads up if my mysql database's will become destroyed if i use apt-get to remove and reinstall the server
[17:31] <dilbert> hb|work: thanks
[17:31] <RichardWolfVI> hb|work: Dapper was a nightmare with the ATI drivers :(
[17:31] <Rencx> does on linux have some DJ program like tractor or virtualDj?
[17:31] <distant_voice> does anyone here know a good app to capture the screen to make video tutorials?
[17:32] <vald0r> Rencx: MIXXX
[17:32] <josh-l> hi, something is up with my touchpad config... i recently reinstalled 8.10 on this machine (after deciding jaunty wasnt ready yet :) my touchpad occasionally doesnt work, sometimes sroll works in the wrong places... should i just reset xorg config?
[17:32] <RichardWolfVI> Rencx: Have you searched in Synaptic
[17:32] <Rencx> no
[17:32] <Dreamglider> calc: http://pastebin.com/m20a47605
[17:32] <zilleplus> does annyone know the command for gparted  "sudo gparted" doesn't work
[17:32] <calc> Rencx: apt-cache search dj | grep DJ shows a few
[17:32] <hb|work> distant_voice: istanbul, or xvidcap
[17:33] <dilbert> vald0r: do a sql dump first
[17:33] <calc> Dreamglider: your /etc/fstab is setup wrong it has /dev/sda1 being ntfs which it is not
[17:33] <calc> Dreamglider: it should be /dev/sdc1 in fstab
[17:33] <distant_voice> thank you hb
[17:33] <glitsj16> Rencx: http://www.linux-sound.org/ddj.html gives an overview of some options
[17:33] <zilleplus> does annyone know the command for gparted  "sudo gparted" doesn't work????
[17:33] <vald0r> dilbert: I cant, the server won't start after I had a update for some reason
[17:33] <dewman> Good Afternoon everyone
[17:33] <dilbert> hb|work: thanks - how's support with Debian and Sun hardware? like a d1000?
[17:34] <RichardWolfVI> zilleplus: Is gparted installed in your system?
[17:34] <Rencx> grate and which one is the best for mixing?
[17:34] <vald0r> dilbert: It says  Can't start server: Bind on TCP/IP port.  But i checked. netstat -tulnap and nothings running on that port
[17:34] <RichardWolfVI> zilleplus: What's the terminal output?
[17:34] <zilleplus> don't think so
[17:34] <Rencx> grate and which one is the best for mixing live?
[17:34] <zilleplus> command not found
[17:34] <vald0r> dilbert:  Which is why i wanted to try reinstalling
[17:34] <calc> dilbert: if you want to know specifics about server class hardware your best bet may be asking on the ubuntu server mailing list
[17:34] <zilleplus> sudo apt-get install gparted doesn't work to
[17:34] <RichardWolfVI> zilleplus: sudo apt-get install gparted
[17:34] <zilleplus> reboting server now
[17:35] <dilbert> calc: thanks
[17:35] <RichardWolfVI> zilleplus: What's the terminal output
[17:35] <dewman> I was wondering if anyone can give me an idea how to get usb to work? I am trying to transfer some photos from my canon digital camera using digikam but it says it cant find my camera
[17:35] <zilleplus> command not found
[17:35] <hb|work> dilbert: I'm not sure, I would check with the debian channels ( there are some on freenode, the official ones are on oftc.net ) and http://wiki.debian.org/PortsSparc
[17:35] <calc> dilbert: i imagine most users in here run ubuntu on their desktop systems :)
[17:35] <dilbert> vald0r: letmecheck
[17:35] <RichardWolfVI> dewman: ¿Tried on FSpot?
[17:35] <RichardWolfVI> *Trird
[17:35] <zilleplus> richard you have skype??
[17:35] <josh-l> hi, something is up with my touchpad config... i recently reinstalled 8.10 on this machine (after deciding jaunty wasnt ready yet :) my touchpad occasionally doesnt work, sometimes sroll works in the wrong places... should i just reset xorg config?
[17:35] <RichardWolfVI> zilleplus: Yes, I do.
[17:36] <Rencx> vald0r:  RichardWolfVI: calc: glitsj16: what shold i chose for live mixing?
[17:36] <zilleplus> can you add me "zilleplus"
[17:36] <dewman> Richard: Yep. Same thing.... I am thinking that usb isnt turned on or something...
[17:36] <mestopholeese> dewman: We need to know your camera model.
[17:36] <calc> Rencx: no idea, i don't DJ i was just pointing out where to look :)
[17:36] <RichardWolfVI> zilleplus: done
[17:36] <dewman> Cannon Rebel Xti
[17:37] <zilleplus> okey i ame online now so
[17:37] <Rencx> calc ty
[17:37] <RichardWolfVI> dewman: Send a pastebin of the output of lsusb
[17:37] <Antioch> I have ubuntu 8.10, and my volume slider only works in the 75-100% range. At 75% the volume is at '0' and at 100% it is at '100'. How can I fix this so the entire volume slider works? Please help! Thank you.
[17:37] <Dreamglider> calc: i changed sda1 to scd1 but i still cant mount it
[17:37] <calc> Dreamglider: s d c 1 not scd1
[17:37] <zilleplus> Richard waths your name on skype
[17:38] <Dreamglider> calc: i meant to say sdc1
[17:38] <calc> Dreamglider: sdc means [s]csi [d]isk [c] (as in third) partion [1]
[17:38] <calc> Dreamglider: what does it say when you do that?
[17:38] <strange> hey guys i have a wierd hardware error it happened today out of nowhere sound doesnt work, but it works when i run stuff as root
[17:38] <FFForever> how can i stop network manager from changing my dns (maybe lock the file?)
[17:39] <calc> Dreamglider: linux treats all disks (or nearly all) as scsi now so it doesn't matter if it is ide or scsi it still shows up as sd[a-z][1-16]
[17:39] <mestopholeese> dewman: what does dmesg say when you hook up the camera?
[17:39] <Dreamglider> calc: http://pastebin.com/m6d6b620
[17:39] <vald0r> MIXX is pretty good for live, its fairly stable. I use mixxx with a midi controler just messing around (Not really a pro) and it works fine. Also theres ALOT of synth and midi software for linux as well.
[17:39] <dewman> http://pastebin.com/m781cceb5
[17:39] <n2diy> when I right click on an .iso file in Nautilus, I'm not given the option to burn a CD, do I have to be root?
[17:40] <new-tu> Hi - I hosed my .conf file by replacing "vesa" with "intel" because I guess i misread someone's directions...  I did do the command for backing it up to start with.  Now I am at the recovery menu.  I assume I am to drop to root shell prompt and type something
[17:40] <loller> how can i find what is mysq cpu and in general all my hardware configuration
[17:40] <hateball> loller: lspci, lsusb, lshw
[17:40] <new-tu> (now typing this on an xp laptop and staring at the ubuntu machine)
[17:40] <RichardWolfVI> dewman: Try a different port and sent the output again
[17:40] <ojm> Hiya, how do I get multiplayer to work in ufoai? When I try to create a server it crashes. Windows-version works.
[17:40] <calc> Dreamglider: are you sure your drive has ntfs on it... meaning you didn't overwrite it or something like that?
[17:41] <vald0r> Rencx: Also check out LMMS, but thats more recording/creating, and ardour
[17:41] <dewman> Ok..
[17:41] <calc> Dreamglider: your sdc1 showed as it was ntfs according to the partition table but if it doesn't mount perhaps it isn't ntfs after all
[17:41] <Dreamglider> calc: pretty sure yes, it worked last night.
[17:41] <new-tu> :)
[17:41] <new-tu> ?
[17:41] <calc> Dreamglider: what have you changed since last night?
[17:41] <hb|work> new-tu: you can just boot the machine normally, press Esc to see the grub menu.  boot the "single" or "recovery" ubuntu option (usually 2nd option) instead of the default
[17:41] <fdsae> how do i tweak to a higher resolution?
[17:42] <hb|work> new-tu: it should drop you to a root login or prompt
[17:42] <new-tu> hgwork - cant do that... when I do that, the screen goes black - I hosed the device vesa command in xord.conf
[17:42] <Dreamglider> calc: i cloned my ubuntu partition to a bigger harddisk, the one im trying to mount has been unplugged untill now.
[17:42] <new-tu> "command" - whatever ya call it  :)
[17:43] <calc> Dreamglider: does the ntfs partition have windows on it, so you can test that it still works or something like that?
[17:43] <dewman> Ummm..I really feel like an idiot....
[17:43] <new-tu> i need to tweak that file to put it back to default -
[17:43] <new-tu> dewman - u and me both
[17:43] <dewman> It helps to plug the usb cable into the usb port..
[17:43] <Dreamglider> calc just data on the disk, music movies and stuff
[17:43] <dewman> =)
[17:43] <loller> hateball thx
[17:43] <okidoki> PHP script question: I have a server using ubuntu 7.# and a new one running 8.10, the old server has a script beginning with /usr/bin/php -f but this errors on the new install as that file is not present. Both are LAMP installations. How should I clear up the problem?
[17:44] <ampm> I hope someone can really help me with this since im newer than a newbie!!
[17:44] <mestopholeese> dewman: we've all done it...
[17:44] <molly_> no dout!
[17:44] <dewman> When all else fails, check the cable....
[17:44] <new-tu> hb|work - my apologies - i now have a root promot
[17:44] <dewman> hehehe
[17:44] <new-tu> root@ubuntu-desktop
[17:44] <fdsae> anyone know how to tweak resolution say to 1600 x 1200
[17:44] <calc> Dreamglider: does running this as sudo (or root) work?  mount /dev/sdc1 /mnt ?
[17:45] <calc> Dreamglider: or does it give the same ntfs error?
[17:45] <ampm> i am trying to connect my bluetooth keyboard and all the instructions i have found online are not working at alll
[17:45] <new-tu> how to edit xorg.conf from root prompt
[17:45] <new-tu> or put back the backed up version
[17:45] <Dreamglider> calc: mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[17:45] <mestopholeese> new-tu: use nano
[17:45] <glitsj16> okidoki: that looks like you'll need a cli PHP on your new 8.10 server
[17:45] <calc> Dreamglider: does running this as sudo (or root) work?  mount -t ntfs /dev/sdc1 /mnt ?
[17:46] <RichardWolfVI> new-tu: It's easier to just reconfigure X.Org
[17:46] <new-tu> just type nano at root prompt?
[17:46] <Dreamglider> calc: it gives the same error
[17:46] <zilleplus> Gtk-warning **:cannot open display still say getting it on the command sudo gparted
[17:46] <new-tu> richard: that wounds easier (I hope)
[17:46] <zilleplus> annyone can help
[17:46] <new-tu> SOUNDS easier
[17:46] <calc> Dreamglider: is the sdc an external drive?
[17:46] <Dreamglider> calc: yes
[17:47] <calc> Dreamglider: try hooking it up to a windows system and see if it can still see the data
[17:47] <calc> Dreamglider: it appears at least from the linux side that it can't see that it is formatted as ntfs at all
[17:47] <Dreamglider> i dont have a windows system anymore.
[17:47] <glitsj16> okidoki: does the new machine have a package called php5-cli installed ? if not, sudo apt-get install php5-cli will install it
[17:47] <coreyman> Dreamglider what is going on
[17:47] <vishesh> Hey does anyone over here have any experience with Intel Graphic card drivers ?
[17:47] <hb|work> new-tu: yeah, nano will work
[17:47] <hb|work> vishesh: what's the issue
[17:47] <calc> Dreamglider: linux can refuse to mount a ntfs partition if it is not cleanly unmounted in windows, but this error doesn't seem like that
[17:47] <okidoki> glitsj16: aha, i'll try that
[17:47] <RichardWolfVI> new-tu: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[17:47] <coreyman> Dreamglider last night i was able to mount my windows hard disk as NTFS and grab files off of it
[17:48] <coreyman> what error are you experiencing
[17:48] <new-tu> oh cool...  nano = old pine  :)
[17:48] <ampm> please!!!
[17:48] <calc> coreyman: his ntfs partition can't be mounted at all, it claims it is not ntfs or no signature found
[17:48] <mestopholeese> new-tu: sorry, old user.
[17:48] <calc> coreyman: its not the uncleanly unmounted error that sometimes happens
[17:48] <coreyman> mabye he needs to do a live gparted and set the FS
[17:48] <Dreamglider> coreyman: http://pastebin.com/m153826f3
[17:49] <coreyman> pastebin is blocked on my school network :P
[17:49] <calc> coreyman: the partition type is set right for ntfs, and even running mount -t ntfs /dev/sdc1 /mnt does not work
[17:49] <keith-> is there a way to mount a directory as an iso?
[17:49] <mestopholeese> keith: Do you mean mount an iso?
[17:49] <calc> keith-: mount an iso as a directoy?
[17:49] <okidoki> glitsj16: worked, thanks!
[17:49] <keith-> no
[17:49] <Dreamglider> coreyman: can i pm the output ?
[17:49] <glitsj16> okidoki: you're welcome
[17:50] <coreyman> yes dreamglider
[17:50] <calc> keith-: to make an iso out of a directory you have to use mkisofs
[17:50] <calc> keith-: you can loopback mount iso's as directories but a directory isn't inherently an iso :)
[17:50] <ampm> how do i get someones attention around this place?!?!?
[17:50] <keith-> yeah i thought i might have to do all that. k
[17:50] <new-tu> what direcxtory is xorg.conf
[17:50] <arvind_khadri> !ask | amazin
[17:50] <new-tu> in?
[17:50] <arvind_khadri> !ask | ampm
[17:50] <arvind_khadri> amazin, sorry about that
[17:51] <arvind_khadri> ampm, what was your question?
[17:51] <Dreamglider> new-tu: /etc/x11
[17:51] <ampm> I am trying to install my logitech mediaboard pro i bought to use with ubuntu on my ps3
[17:52] <vishesh> hb|work:  Well, I have this Intel G35 graphic card who's drivers don't seem to be working properly. I have installed the xsever-xorg-intel package, and configured xorg.conf to use the intel driver. But - glxgears runs at about 500 fps and flickers a lot plus the window lags a lot in general. Plus when I write a simple OpenGL program which print out glGetString(GL_VERSION) it shows 1.4 Mesa, and I need atleast 2.0.
[17:52] <defrysk>  /etc/X11/
[17:52] <kevink23> i installed the compiz desktop effects and it isnt coming up in preferences, can anyone help me?
[17:52] <defrysk> capital X
[17:52] <_VIM_> !ccsm | kevink23
[17:52] <coreyman> calc is there a way he can query /dev/sdc1 to check see if it's actually NTFS
[17:52] <ampm> tried to connect in the gedit and after i typed in the password the terminal flashes white and then disappears and then gedit will not open unless i reboot
[17:53] <Dreamglider> coreyman: it is a ntfs partition.
[17:53] <arvind_khadri> ampm, does X recognize your keyboard?
[17:53] <calc> coreyman: not that i know of, there isn't a fsck.ntfs afaict
[17:53] <new-tu> richard: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg brought me to use kernel framebuffer device interface y/n
[17:53] <new-tu> Richard: now what
[17:53] <calc> coreyman: maybe something in ntfsprogs package
[17:53] <calc> coreyman: i got rid of all of my ntfs partitions already so i can't easily test here
[17:54] <new-tu> I don't know if this is going to fix the typo I put in my xorg.conf file
[17:54] <Dreamglider> coreyman: i have been using it in ubuntu for quite some time with ntfs-3g
[17:54] <olavimmanuel> how can one tell find to exclude something? like NOT in google. eg: unrar e `find ~/toorents -name "*.rar" NOT part*.rar` && unrar e `find ~/toorents -name "part001.rar"`
[17:54] <coreyman> Dreamglider crap i g2g ill be back later.. sorry!
[17:54] <pascal__> test
[17:55] <hb|work> vishesh: a couple of things: (1) glxinfo should be able to tell you if direct rendering is enabled.  (2)  You shouldn't actually need an xorg.conf, i.e. X should be able to autodetect and set things up properly.  I would try moving xorg.conf to xorg.conf.backup or similar and restarting X to see if it makes a difference
[17:55] <ampm> how do i find if x recognizes ir?
[17:55] <karlo> hello, my WLAn detects no network, i have a laptop! what can i do?
[17:56] <calc> Dreamglider: if you know anyone else with windows you could try hooking the drive up to their pc to see if it still works since you no longer have windows yourself
[17:56] <RichardWolfVI> karlo: Are there networks available in first place?
[17:56] <karlo> first place?
[17:56] <calc> Dreamglider: the error message you are getting would indicate that the partition is corrupted, but you can't know for certain until you try hooking it up to a windows pc
[17:56] <Dreamglider> calc: i might ill go n check.
[17:56] <KalEl> how can i run ubuntu inside window xp, or windows xp inside ubuntu?
[17:57] <erUSUL> !virtualizerss | KalEl
[17:57] <erUSUL> !virtualizers | KalEl
[17:57] <RichardWolfVI> karlo: Are there actually any Wireless networks in you zone?
[17:57] <vishesh> hb|work: Yes, direct rendering is enabled. And reverting xorg.conf to the original settings doesn't make any difference. Direct Rendering may be enabled, but I don't think I'm using it. Is that possible ?
[17:57] <calc> KalEl: you can also install ubuntu without repartitioning windows by using wubi
[17:57] <fdsae> how do i log in as root? or whats the default pw?
[17:57] <calc> !wubi | KalEl
[17:57] <karlo> RichardWolfVI: yes my phone shows 3 networks(including my own wlan) I'm currently using cable
[17:59] <sony> wenas necesito ayuda
[17:59] <RichardWolfVI> karlo: Pastebin an output of iwconfig
[17:59] <LjL> !es | sony
[17:59] <jgreen> I am looking for a way to capture firefox header info to the command line parse and save relevant information
[17:59] <jgreen> any suggestions?
[17:59] <sony> ohhh i was mistake
[17:59] <sony> byee
[17:59] <jrib> jgreen: why are you bring firefox into it?
[17:59] <jgreen> so it can load a js file
[18:00] <Dreamglider> calc: in windows the drive shows up but upon opening it i get a pop sying the disk is not formated and asks me if i want to formate it
[18:00] <jgreen> and output the flash files
[18:00] <kevink23> can someone tell me what the command is to get an application
[18:00] <calc> Dreamglider: yes, so it is corrupted
[18:00] <jgreen> I am looking for flv info ;-)
[18:00] <calc> Dreamglider: perhaps you cloned the disk incorrectly when you were redoing your system last night?
[18:00] <olavimmanuel> kevink23: sudo apt-get install
[18:00] <cthompson__> I am trying to find a method of determining whether a user has done `su username` or `su - username`
[18:00] <jgreen> I guess I can just grab the embed tag into a html page
[18:00] <KalEl> calc thanks... i have both installed, and mainly use the ubuntu but for recent needs i need to access both simultaneously
[18:00] <Dreamglider> calc: i didnt do anything with this disk
[18:00] <new-tu> whoops... either I accidently fixed something or i hosed it... stay tuned
[18:00] <karlo> http://pastebin.com/m184b4eab
[18:00] <Mextux> Can't play DVD's properly (Hardy Heron). The movie is played like in slow motion
[18:00] <karlo> RichardWolfVI: http://pastebin.com/m184b4eab
[18:01] <calc> Dreamglider: well somehow it lost its filesystem, i've seen ntfs do that on a windows machine before but its not that common
[18:01] <kevink23>  thanks!
[18:01] <calc> Dreamglider: i try to never use ntfs for that reason, i either use linux fs like ext3 or fat32 since ntfs seems too unstable to me
[18:01] <new-tu> yay!  i managed to unhose it - thanks everyone
[18:01] <Dreamglider> calc:  so the partition table or simthing is list ?
[18:01] <olavimmanuel> Mextux: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[18:01] <Dreamglider> something*
[18:02] <Dreamglider> is lost*
[18:02] <RichardWolfVI> karlo: Do you know which driver it uses?
[18:02] <calc> Dreamglider: all the data on your external drive is probably gone at this point
[18:02] <karlo> RihardWolfVI: no
[18:02] <calc> Dreamglider: the formatting of the partition itself is what is messed up
[18:02] <Dreamglider> calc: but i have not formated it
[18:03] <calc> Dreamglider: it somehow got corrupted
[18:03] <Boski-PL> hello all need help! Help me:-D, please. raid0 issues, I can`t mount it, I can`t boot my XP installation which is on raid0 and i`ve got there whole bunch of life saving files, so pls help!!!!!
[18:03] <calc> Dreamglider: as i said this sometimes happens even on windows for no reason, i had a windows laptop a few years ago that it bluescreened one day and after that the ntfs file system was completely gone
[18:03] <calc> Dreamglider: i lost all my data on my laptop on that day :\
[18:03] <calc> Dreamglider: after that I never used ntfs again
[18:03] <karlo> with lshw it says disabled
[18:03] <Dreamglider> calc: that sux
[18:04] <jgreen> what are command line screen shot tools in ubuntu
[18:04] <Dreamglider> calc: ill give testdisk a spin see what happens
[18:04] <jrib> jgreen: personally, I'd use python.  But you might be able to get away with just wget and grep
[18:04] <jgreen> and what are header capture tools
[18:04] <karlo> how can i search for wlan?
[18:04] <jgreen> I don't mind python
[18:04] <RichardWolfVI> karlo: Go to, System > Administration > Hardware Drivers (or something like that)
[18:04] <calc> Dreamglider: there might be some windows utility that can recover the data, but it depends on what happened
[18:04] <karlo> richardwolfVI: there are no drivers in that list
[18:05] <calc> Dreamglider: regular windows probably can't recover it but a third party windows utility might be able to
[18:05] <Dreamglider> calc: i salvaged my ext3 partition with testdisk this morning  :)
[18:05] <calc> Dreamglider: ah
[18:05] <heatmzzr> hey guys thanks, virtual box is a nice program, can i assume that i can run winblows programs somehow installing them thru virtual box, i recently installed winblows on my other drive but it isnt necessary isit?
[18:05] <jgreen> I need to grab thumbnails from embed objects from across the internet for a video tool
[18:05] <olavimmanuel> karlo: check that it has the wifi card enabled. That was a major pita for me with my macbook running ubuntu
[18:05] <RichardWolfVI> karlo: Install linux-restricted-modules and linux-backports-modules
[18:05] <jgreen> some files contain thumbs some do not
[18:05] <vishesh> Hey !! I'm having problem with my Intel Graphic card. I have this Intel G35 graphic card who's drivers don't seem to be working properly. I have installed the xsever-xorg-intel package, and configured xorg.conf to use the intel driver. But - glxgears runs at about 500 fps and flickers a lot plus the window lags a lot in general. Plus when I write a simple OpenGL program which print out glGetString(GL_VERSION) it shows 1.4 Mesa, and I need atleast 2.0. On
[18:06] <calc> Dreamglider: thanks for the info, looking at testdisk now, i'm sure it will come in handy eventually since i work on lots of computers :)
[18:06] <vishesh> reading glxinfo it shows that direct rendering is enabled, but the applications seem to lag a lot ... Does anyone have any idea how I can fix this ?
[18:06] <karlo> RichardWolfVI: how? the resstricted list is empty
[18:06] <Boski-PL> did any1 notice my cry out loud?!??!?!
[18:06] <calc> new OOo for Jaunty uploading now :)
[18:06] <karlo> olavimmanuel: how can i do that?
[18:06] <calc> i'll try to get it into the ppa for hardy/intrepid in a few hours
[18:07] <calc> my upload bandwidth is really low so it takes a long time :(
[18:07] <olavimmanuel> karlo: the network symbol on the upper right corner of the screen
[18:07] <Boski-PL> expert help needed with raid 0 issues!!!
[18:07] <Dreamglider> calc: i accidently dd'd some 40Gb the wrongway around mub with testdisk i was able to save the ext3 partition and copied it over to a bigger drive with gparted LiveCD :)
[18:07] <RichardWolfVI> vishesh: Open the terminal from the menu, not the keyboard
[18:07] <sonictwin> my keyboard doesnt work under gnome, it works fine in fluxbox and at the console
[18:07] <Boski-PL> help me!!
[18:07] <sonictwin> i get this ticking noise from my computer speaker
[18:07] <calc> Dreamglider: cool
[18:07] <karlo> olavimmanuel: its enabled all the time =(
[18:07] <tokies> Hello :)
[18:08] <RichardWolfVI> karlo:Go to Synaptic, enable the backports and the restricted repositories, and download these packages
[18:08] <mib_ezhgk8> I'm having trouble getting a USB device to work that requires libusb.  Is this a good place to ask?
[18:08] <karlo> ok i'll try
[18:08] <sonictwin> i'm apt-get removing all traces of gnome
[18:09] <vishesh> RichardWolfVI: Alright, but how does that make a difference ?
[18:09] <karlo> still nothing
[18:10] <tokies> Hello :), I am using dual screens on 86X ubuntu and I have the Nvidia Twin view working except every time  I restart my computer it restarts one screen. When I try to save the layout in twin view it doesnt let me save it. not sure how to fix this
[18:10] <tokies> Thank you
[18:10] <karlo> the hardware-driver app doesn't show anything
[18:10] <ampm> how can i stop gedit from crashing after i type in my password?
[18:10] <RichardWolfVI> vishesh: It's kind of a bug, opening the terminal that way doesn't disable direct rendering.
[18:10] <karlo> ill be back in 2 minutes
[18:10] <RichardWolfVI> karlo: Restart
[18:10] <sonictwin> tokies: when you use the nvidia-settings-manager make sure you are root, launch it from terminal with 'su nvidia-settings-manager'
[18:11] <Palermo> hello @ all
[18:11] <JoeBelow> sonictwin: you mean sudo
[18:11] <sonictwin> yes sudo
[18:11] <Palermo> is here a german help room
[18:11] <RichardWolfVI> JoeBelow: su is valid too
[18:11] <silver_swords> too many people asking at the same time. how about all slow down?
[18:11] <Geek`N`Proud> !de | Palermo
[18:11] <sonictwin> tokies: and make sure you save
[18:11] <vishesh> RichardWolfVI: Uhm, I don't understand. I open the terminal through the menu and then ?
[18:11] <tokies> Ok sonictwin :) I will try that I forgot the importance of root on ubuntu, I am use to apples
[18:12] <Palermo> thank you
[18:12] <mib_ezhgk8> Palermo try #ubuntu-de
[18:12] <Palermo> yes thank you guys
[18:12] <Geek`N`Proud> tokies, erm.. on Mac the importance is the same :p
[18:12] <new-tu> hi again!  Just edited xorg.conf for the first time - and then put back the default version after i hosed the darn thing.  (grin)   GA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G is the vidcard I got.  Want to either install the driver I downloaded from intel or increase resolution
[18:13] <JoeBelow> RichardWolfVI: not that it matters, but it won't work as stated - with the command as a parameter (su [USERNAME])
[18:13] <RichardWolfVI> JoeBelow: You're right
[18:13] <Geek`N`Proud> su -c command
[18:13] <new-tu> i have a dripkg folder
[18:13] <pierre_> good evening
[18:13] <new-tu> aand installed something called "alien"
[18:13] <tokies> Geek`N`Proud - but most things can be pulled off in the gui when it comes to settings "screen" settings
[18:14] <RichardWolfVI> vishesh: Opening the terminal from the keyboard disables Direct Rendering causing programs to run the way you just explained.
[18:14] <tokies> thanks for your help good
[18:14] <arvind_khadri> !terminal > ampm
[18:14] <new-tu> i hope SOME of this is relavent and can help u help me :)
[18:15] <new-tu> (waits patiently)
[18:15]  * RichardWolfVI is leaving
[18:16] <ewook> so I'm guessing the driver you got was a rpm since you got alien
[18:16] <ewook> new-tu: *points up
[18:16] <kdub> AJC_Z0: ccsm->general options->focux & raise behavior
[18:16] <fdsae> i tried this http://tuxicity.wordpress.com/2006/12/02/configure-your-resolution-in-ubuntu-and-debian/
[18:16] <fdsae> but the wizard never goes to the resolution screen
[18:16] <fdsae> it just runs through keyboard layouts and then quits
[18:16] <fdsae> no errors though
[18:17] <fdsae> any help?
[18:17] <new-tu> ewook - i acutally don't know the difference yet...  like a newbie, i read a webpage and follwed it, hoping it had something to do with the intel driver file i downloaded
[18:17] <mib_ezhgk8> I'm having trouble getting a USB device to work that requires libusb. Is this a good place to ask? nickbeep me, thanks
[18:19] <new-tu> ewok - now following your page instead  :)
[18:19] <mestopholeese> mib_ezhgk8: yes.
[18:21] <silver_swords> what extra files are needed to browse windows mobile 6 using bluetooth?
[18:23] <new-tu> GAAAH - i have a screen that starts with "For the X server to handle the keyboard correctly, a keyboard model   must be entered.  Available models depend on which XKB rule set is    in use." and scrolling down and hitting enter does not get me to the next screen
[18:23] <bobbob1016> I've recently updated compiz git, and I can't seem to change settings.  Last time I updated and had this issue, I just chmodded my ~/.config/compiz/compizconfig/, did that this time, and nothing.  Any ideas?  (Using flat-file and gconf have no difference)
[18:24] <new-tu> the OK is not highlighted
[18:24] <Pici> bobbob1016: Please ask in #compiz-fusion, since you're not using the version we included with Ubuntu
[18:24] <bobbob1016> Pici, I did, thought it wouldn't hurt to ask here anyways, just in case.
[18:25] <new-tu> oh duh....
[18:25] <new-tu> found something...
[18:25] <karlo> hello it's me again. is there ndiswrapper for xubuntu intrepid?
[18:26] <bosco_> helo
[18:26] <bosco__> hello
[18:26] <chrisbard> hello again :)
[18:26] <ope_> anyone know how to specifi the domain when your doing PEAP authentication over wireless?
[18:26] <fosco_> hi bosco_ i like your nick :)
[18:26] <chrisbard> from inside ubuntu now :)
[18:27] <chrisbard> hokay, anyone here has a creative X-fi that works in ubuntu? :)
[18:28] <karlo> please help someone =(
[18:28] <rumsteak> hi, i'm trying to install a printer on ubuntu interprid, before i upgraded it worked but now wont work and I cant find any drivers, can anyone help me?
[18:28] <silver_swords> anybody succesfully browsed windows mobile 6 using buetooth?
[18:28] <bosco__> does anyknow of a good site with instructions to install e17 ???
[18:28] <hunter_> Hi all
[18:29] <g0nad> rumsteak: what model printer?
[18:29] <rumsteak> lexmark x2470
[18:30] <keystr0k> I just installed an Adobe AIR app call iPlotz (Wireframing tool). For some reason, the "ALT" key is activated when I use the software... any clue why?  I cannot type an "s" for example, because it actually gets recognized as "Alt-S" :(  This is problem when I type a "q" because the app quits. :(
[18:30] <tarelerulz> my mic don't work,  What might I do to fix that. I have laptop with 2 headphon jacks and one mic jack
[18:30] <pipo> i want to to find an ubuntu channel for swedish language ?
[18:30] <Pici> !sv | pipo
[18:30] <new-tu> gaaaaahhh... I make the mistake of trying to work with the xserver deal, hit control-alt backspace, heard the drums and now I have a blank screen
[18:30] <pipo> ty
[18:30] <new-tu> now typing on my xp machine
[18:30] <bosco__> !sv
[18:31] <rumsteak> i searched on google but couldnt find, nor the reps, reinstaled CUPS and tried some generic drivers, but nothing worked worked
[18:31] <new-tu> how do i get my display back
[18:31] <g0nad> new-tu: control-alt-F7, see if that works
[18:31] <bosco__> you dont
[18:31] <bosco__> lol
[18:31] <hunter_> nvidia GeForce 8200M with an HP G60 - still experiencing some lag on xubuntu - graphics card has been enabled and lag is reduced by still laggy - any recommendations?
[18:32] <new-tu> errr...  ^{{10^^ repeated 4 times appears
[18:32] <new-tu> 18 rather
[18:32] <hunter_> but*
[18:32] <new-tu> ^[[10~^
[18:32] <new-tu> man, cant type 18 to save my life
[18:33] <silver_swords> good luck all
[18:33] <new-tu> ok...blank screen... blinking cursor
[18:33] <g0nad> new-tu: control-alt-f1, login and do a reboot
[18:33] <Salaatti> How i can run .exe programs whit ubuntu?
[18:33] <g0nad> salaatti: with wine, sometimes
[18:33] <hunter_> Anyone have any recommendations regarding lag?
[18:34] <jrib> Salaatti: generally, you should use a native linux alternative whenever you can.  Otherwise, try wine
[18:34] <jrib> !wine | Salaatti
[18:34] <zilleplus> hey guys wath do you use for Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol (DHCP) on ubuntu server
[18:34] <zilleplus> hey guys wath do you use for Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol (DHCP) on ubuntu server??
[18:34] <new-tu> ok... command prompt at root
[18:34] <djhanni> elló
[18:34] <djhanni> helló
[18:34] <Pici> !who
[18:34] <tarelerulz> salaatti, I would try virtaulbox if you really want to run stuff
[18:34] <g0nad> new-tu: now type reboot now
[18:34] <chrisbard> creative x-fi drivers for latest ubuntu anyone?
[18:35] <zilleplus> hey guys wath do you use for Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol (DHCP) on ubuntu server
[18:35] <djhanni> helló
[18:35] <djhanni> van itt valaki_?
[18:35] <g0nad> zilleplus: your question is unclear
[18:35] <hunter_> I think the reason ubuntu doesn't well on this laptop, nor do any other Linux OS, is because this is an HP - are they know for not being Linux friendly?
[18:35] <zilleplus> dhcpd is not availeble to donload
[18:35] <hunter_> work*
[18:36] <zilleplus> need other programme for
[18:36] <zilleplus> it
[18:36] <jrib> hunter_: hp is a pretty linux-friendly company in general
[18:36] <tarelerulz> hunter_ What Hp you have. I have pavilion dv6604cl laptop
[18:36] <Pici> zilleplus: dhcp3-server provides a dhcp daemon.
[18:36] <rumsteak> they even lauched a new lap with a moded version of ubuntu xD
[18:36] <hunter_> oh I see jrib
[18:37] <new-tu> gonad: now rebooting... hoping for a GUI...  :)
[18:37] <hunter_> and tarelerulz I have an HP Laptop G60
[18:37] <g0nad> new-tu: goodluck
[18:37] <hunter_> with nvidia Geforce 8200M graphics
[18:37] <rumsteak> g0nad: any hint how to get the printer working?
[18:37] <new-tu> back
[18:38] <tarelerulz> Hunter_ How ubuntu been running on it. Mine do ok.  Mic is the one thing that seem to go out a lot.  I have no idea how to really fix it
[18:38] <g0nad> rumsteak: i looked it up online and it looks like its not even supported at all.. how did you get it to work ? :P
[18:38] <g0nad> new-tu: it boot into x?
[18:38] <rumsteak> this is what i've done so far: i searched on google but couldnt find, nor the reps, reinstaled CUPS and tried some generic drivers, but nothing worked worked
[18:38] <Something132> hey
[18:38] <Something132> i need help with sound
[18:38] <hunter_> tarelerulz...it will run fine but its laggy....Vista runs smoothly on this computer but not Ubuntu
[18:38] <Something132> basically it was working yesterday
[18:38] <zilleplus> pici i need programme
[18:38] <Something132> and just now it stopped working
[18:38] <heatmzzr> how do I get the mouse to work in virtualbox??
[18:39] <Pici> zilleplus: I gave you a package name.
[18:39] <zilleplus> provider for dhcpd
[18:39] <rumsteak> lol nothing, with the old verion gutsy or feisty it just worked, now, it does not...
[18:39] <Something132> #alsa might help me brb
[18:39] <zilleplus> can't find it
[18:39] <g0nad> rumsteak: sorry, i Have no idea
[18:39] <mib_ezhgk8> Hello, I am having trouble getting a USB device working which requires libusb. Would anyone mind doing a little hand-holding, to help me get it working?
[18:39] <rumsteak> ok tnx anyway xD
[18:39] <karlo> how can i deleted a double entry in sources.list?
[18:39] <zilleplus> got it sorry
[18:40] <hunter_> Is it my graphics card thats causing the lag on ubuntu?  nvidia GeFore 8200M?
[18:40] <eoihjrf> how do you set up linux to use a VPN
[18:40] <Something132> ok no help there....
[18:40] <Something132> i have a sound problem and it was working yesterday and it just stopped working now
[18:41] <AJC_Z0> kdub: I do use compiz, so thanks! Now all I need is to have xwininfo ready to grab the infor from the popups before they disappear
[18:41] <ampm> what sudo hidd command do I need to connect my bluetooth keyboard?
[18:41] <keystr0k> Is there a way to "lock" the ALT key when I start an application (to simulate that it is always held down?)
[18:41] <olavimmanuel> how can one tell find to exclude something? like "NOT" in google. eg: unrar e `find ~/toorents -name "*.rar" NOT part*.rar` && unrar e `find ~/toorents -name "part001.rar"`
[18:41] <humpty_dumpty> what do you mean by locking the ALT key?
[18:41] <AJC_Z0> kdub: I also changed "Focus Prevention Level" from "Low" to "Normal". I don't know what difference that's supposed to make, but it sounds good
[18:42] <DCEmu_user01> Come visit my forum where you can watch the newest movies online for FREE: http://movieparadise.informe.com/
[18:42] <humpty_dumpty> does it mean that the  alt key should be ****ing held down for ever?
[18:42] <keystr0k> humpty_dumpty, I have an app that seems to think my ALT key is always pressed.  Put in a bug report.  I was just thinking there may be a way to trick it.
[18:42] <humpty_dumpty> errr.. I didn't know bad words like **** are filtered by freenode.
[18:42] <AJC_Z0> olavimmanuel: -a \! -name foo
[18:42] <DCEmu_user01> Come visit my forum where you can watch the newest movies online for FREE: http://movieparadise.informe.com/
[18:42] <humpty_dumpty> read the ****ing manual.
[18:42] <keystr0k> heh
[18:42] <keystr0k> read the manual?
[18:42] <humpty_dumpty> wow! it filters the four lettered word
[18:43] <mib_ezhgk8> olavimmanuel pipe find's output through grep, and use a regular expression to select what you want excluded
[18:43] <thomc> Is there a method I could use to record how much bandwidth I use each day and then calculate a rolling average for the last ten days?
[18:43] <prometheus765> hi, i have Intrepid and my totem displays all videos with wrong aspect ratio ( video is little bit squeezed vertically). In VLC and mplayer everything is ok. Anyone have similar problem? My graphic card is nvidia based.
[18:43] <Something132> help help help
[18:43] <olavimmanuel> AJC_Z0: Thanks.
[18:43] <Something132> !
[18:43] <ampm> who knows how to set up a bluetooth keyboard in 8.1?
[18:45] <hunter_> I figured Linux would make things run quicker, not slower.  Since it runs slower I'll just go back to Windows Vista
[18:45] <chrisbard> I have vista
[18:45] <chrisbard> and now ubuntu
[18:45] <chrisbard> its running ok for me
[18:46] <hunter_> its running ok here as well...keyword "ok", Vista runs fine I just didn't like it eating up all my resources, but I will deal with it since it runs quicker than ubuntu
[18:46] <ampm> how do i install a bluetooth keyboard?
[18:47] <chrisbard> I love vista because of gaming mainly
[18:47] <hunter_> yeah chrisbard
[18:47] <cjae> Ok the computer in question had an onboard ati graphics installed and I don't believe that the ati fglrx driver was installed. Now the computer has a nvidia 7400 geforce card pci-e in it but kde window manager freezes upon login, here are the steps ive done so far
[18:48] <Hartwell>  #twitlive
[18:48] <cjae> recovery mode xfix, I think this issues the sudo dpkg --reconfigure -xserver-xorg?
[18:48] <hunter_> Have you ever checked your free memory though in Vista?  LOL...there is hardly none since it caches most all of it
[18:48] <chrisbard> the autoupdate features of ubuntu are quite allright
[18:48] <Pici> !offtopic | hunter_ chrisbard
[18:48] <cjae> then I took it to the console and stopped kdm
[18:48] <hunter_> How is what we are speaking off off topic Pici?
[18:48] <chrisbard> with mirc you can talk with one person
[18:49] <hunter_> Pici....ubuntu lags and I was stating how there is no lag in Vista hoping someone could offer some assistance
[18:49] <chrisbard> is this not possible with xchat?
[18:49] <cjae> sudo dpkg --configure -a   sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade   sudo apt-get --reinstall install kde-window-manager
[18:49] <Pici> hunter_: Talking about Windows Vista's memory is not on topic for the Ubuntu Support channel.
[18:49] <todd> anyone know an easy way to set the image comment on a bunch of files in a bunch of directories?
[18:49] <hunter_> Pici : if it relates to an ubuntu issue I see no problem with that, anyhow
[18:49] <chrisbard> pici
[18:49] <Pici> chrisbard: ?
[18:50] <chrisbard> do you know how I can sort my x-fi creative to work in ubuntu?
[18:50] <chrisbard> is there a driver for it?
[18:50] <Pici> hunter_: I disagree, but perhaps try rephrasing your question, or elaborating on 'lag', do you mean network problems?
[18:50] <heatmzzr> how do I get the mouse to work in virtualbox??
[18:50] <Pici> chrisbard: I'm sorry, I don't.  Have you looked at our sound troubleshooting factoids?
[18:50] <ampm> how do i install a bluetooth keyboard?
[18:51] <todd> anyone know an easy way to set the image comment on a bunch of files in a bunch of directories? I tried google & stuff, no joy :-(
[18:51] <glitsj16> chrisbard: Creative did the trouble to provide a linux driver for their X-fi, have you seen http://opensource.creative.com/soundcard.html ?
[18:51] <oCean_> ampm: start here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[18:51] <ampm> ive used that link aandits still not working
[18:51] <oCean_> ampm: well, it is the answer to your question. Provide more details of your problem, and someone might be able to help...
[18:51] <prometheus765> i have Intrepid and my totem displays all videos with wrong aspect ratio ( video is little bit squeezed vertically). In VLC and mplayer everything is ok. Anyone have similar problem? My graphic card is nvidia based.
[18:52] <olavimmanuel> thanks mib_ezhgk8. Diddnt get the other one to work, so ill try that :D
[18:52] <ampm> i type in the code into the terminal and it will say command not found?
[18:53] <FrozenFire[work]> Is there a place to find a list of update descriptions for Ubuntu? I know of the Synaptic History, but I want detailed descriptions of updates. For instance, I just installed a number of FireFox updates.
[18:53] <olavimmanuel> scratch that :) got it
[18:53] <oCean_> ampm: be more specific. *what* code / command?
[18:54] <Pici> ampm: What version of Ubuntu are you running?
[18:54] <todd> ampm; if you dont have a command then apt-get it
[18:54] <chrisbard> does anyone know if there is a steam version for ubuntu??
[18:54] <fdsae> alright.. i looked through some tutorials on screen resolution tweaking and it said to run xorg config and i did.. however it never went through the resolution screen.. anyone know how to tweak resolution in ubuntu studio?
[18:54] <Pici> chrisbard: No. But you may be able to get it to work under Wine.
[18:54] <ampm> sorry i'm running 8.1 and did the sudo apt-get install bluez-utilz aleady as well and still no luck
[18:55] <Pici> ampm: Those instructions are for 7.04 and earlier. Install gnome-bluetooth for 8.10 and check your Applications>Accessories menu
[18:56] <todd> how do I set the image comment on a bunch of files in a bunch of directories?
[18:56] <Dreamglider> calc: testdisk saved the day again ;)
[18:57] <calc> Dreamglider: cool, what did it say about it?
[18:58] <Dreamglider> calc: is found a partition table on a backup block
[18:58] <Dreamglider> it*
[18:58] <todd> how do I set the image comment on a jpeg from the command line?
[18:59] <calc> Dreamglider: ok
[18:59] <Q-FUNK> howdy!
[18:59] <fdsae> anyone know where xorg.conf is located?
[18:59] <fdsae> im pretty lost on this screen resolution tweaking
[18:59] <genii> fdsae: /etc/X11
[18:59] <fdsae> if anyone wants to help
[18:59] <Dreamglider>  and i was able to wright the a new table
[18:59] <Dreamglider> fdsae:  /etc/x11
[18:59] <todd> fdsae: etc/x11
[18:59] <Q-FUNK> I'm trying to help a friend install Intrepid on her desktop.  we get this strange symptom that right after GDM login, we get a black screen with the mouse pointer in the middle and the desktop never appears.
[19:00] <ptn107> Need help.  Added       phil   ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/apt-get     to sudoers file (syntax is correct i did a visudo -c) yet i still get an error 'could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 permission denied)   what else do i have to add to the sudoers file to get this to work?
[19:00] <fdsae> todd: you know how to tweak screen resolution higher?
[19:00] <todd> q-funk: sounds like a bad video profile
[19:00] <fdsae> cause nothing is listed in xorg
[19:00] <tx2650> anyone any experience with building tx2650 driver with latest kernel?
[19:01] <Scunizi> How do you sync Liferea with a google group?  I get an XML parcer error
[19:01] <todd> fdsae: system -> prefs -> screen resolution
[19:01] <kdub> todd: http://www.linux.com/feature/147564
[19:01] <Q-FUNK> todd: the GDM prompt comes as normal.  it's only AFTER logging in that the desktop never comes
[19:01] <fdsae> yeah i know its there but it doesnt go high enough
[19:01] <fdsae> thats what im trying to edit
[19:01] <fdsae> and everything i see online doesnt work
[19:02] <fdsae> basically it says to edit xorg.conf and theres nothing in that file in relation to screen resolution
[19:02] <todd> q-funk: OK I give, never seen it
[19:02] <todd> kdub: cool thanks!
[19:02] <joana> hi
[19:03] <vigo> Q-FUNK: Is there a VGA mode select?
[19:04] <erlingre> What is the most sensible way to create two virtual networks for KVM-guests, where each KVM virtual server is connected to both?
[19:04] <Q-FUNK> vigo: where?
[19:05] <emorris> hi, i have an extended desktop set on my laptop screen (1280x800) and an external display (1280x1024) on an ATI graphics card. Is it at all possible to have the wallpaper displayed independently on both monitors so it doesn't stretch the image across both screens?
[19:05] <vigo> Q-FUNK: on install
[19:05] <untitled_> hi all. what is it mark red in screen in ubuntu in the bottom status line? yellow - processor load, blue - Mhz, green - memory, and what is the red one?
[19:05] <vigo> Q-FUNK: I may have found a solution in the forums,,one moment
[19:05] <Q-FUNK> vigo: ah, the safe mode.   yes, that works.
[19:05] <Q-FUNK> vigo: but only on install
[19:06] <rakudave> untitled_: load
[19:06] <vigo> Q-FUNK: Blank screen?
[19:06] <untitled_> rakudave: of what? load is yellow
[19:07] <eoihjrf> how do i run apache
[19:07] <emorris> untitled_: where is this?
[19:07] <untitled_> emorris: gnu screen
[19:07] <vigo> Q-FUNK: VGA may get you into it.
[19:07] <untitled_> emorris: from ubuntu jaunty :)
[19:07] <emorris> ooh
[19:07] <Pici> !jaunty | untitled_
[19:08] <vigo> Q-FUNK: here is from forums: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1087751&highlight=screen+blank
[19:08] <rakudave> untitled_: right-click, settings... you can set the colors there or look them of for that matter
[19:08] <eoihjrf> how do i run apache?
[19:08] <Q-FUNK> vigo: thanks. let's see...
[19:08] <emorris> untitled_: it's probably more likely to be load *average* though
[19:08] <untitled_> rakudave: sorry, right click screen? o_O
[19:09] <untitled_> emorris: it shows "32!"
[19:09] <Scunizi> eoihjrf: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start
[19:09] <nbuntu> hey - i have a wierd problem that is hard to replicate but seems to happen really frequently - when i start ubuntu after having been in windows for a day or two,i find that my internet connection does not work.  I'm behind a university network and i noticed that i'm not being assigned my usual ip (153.19.xxx) and instead am given a 192.168.xxxx ip address.  Restarting the network usually does not fix the problem - however the problem seems to fix
[19:09] <nbuntu> itself  after 'some' time.... can anyone tell me what's going on and how to ensure that ubuntu receives and uses the correct ip
[19:09] <oCean_> eoihjrf: have you installed it?
[19:09] <untitled_> maybe number of processes running... to little number it is
[19:09] <lasivian> what should I use for EXT2 full disk encryption?
[19:09] <ampm> why does sudo hidd --connect with mac address show as command not found in terminal?
[19:09] <emorris> untitled_: you have a lot of processes running?
[19:09] <rakudave> untitled_: settings
[19:09] <Pici> untitled_: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Jaunty/9.04 support/discussion.
[19:10] <untitled_> ok ok
[19:10] <nbuntu> seems to fix itself after differing amounts of time
[19:10] <untitled_> emorris: there is by default ~100
[19:10] <untitled_> I think
[19:10] <BornSlippy> my Ubuntu 1.10 doesn't want to talk to my USB wireless dongle. The driver seems to be correctly installed with ndis but when I plug the USB dongle in absolutely nothing happens. I would be happy to search on the internet for answers but I can't even guess what the problem is.
[19:10] <emorris> untitled_: "An idle computer has a load number of 0 and each process that is using CPU or waiting for CPU adds to the load number by 1. Most UNIX systems count only processes in the running (on CPU) or runnable (waiting for CPU) states. However, Linux also includes processes in uninterruptible sleep states (usually waiting for disk activity), which can lead to markedly different results if many processes are blocked in I/O due to a busy or
[19:10] <emorris>  stalled I/O system. This, for example, includes processes that are blocked due to an NFS server failure or slow media (e.g., USB 1.x storage devices), leading to an elevated load average, which does not reflect an actual increase in CPU use (but still gives an idea on how long you have to wait).
[19:10] <emorris> The load average is calculated as the exponentially damped/weighted moving average of the load number. The three values of load average refer to the past one, five, and fifteen minutes of system operation."
[19:10] <FloodBot3> emorris: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:11] <Rioting_Pacifist> how can i move an partition end first using dd?
[19:11] <BornSlippy> my Ubuntu 1.10 doesn't want to talk to my USB wireless dongle. The driver seems to be correctly installed with ndis but when I plug the USB dongle in absolutely nothing happens. I would be happy to search on the internet for answers but I can't even guess what the problem is.
[19:11] <defunct> how can I pass options to an ubuntu package (like php --with-mysql-pdo)
[19:11] <karlo> #xubuntu
[19:11] <Pici> defunct: You can't.  You're not compiling the packages when you're downloading them, you're getting the binaries.
[19:12] <CompuHacker> i.e. precompiled
[19:12] <defunct> Pici. Ahh so I have to compile from source then?
[19:12] <Rioting_Pacifist> BornSlippy: i dont think usb dongles work well, only 9.04 will have good suport AFAIK
[19:12] <defunct> in order to have anything but the default ubuntu install?
[19:12] <nbuntu> ok to rephrase - how to tell ubuntu to renew its ip address - considering  /etc/init.d/networking restart does not seem to work?
[19:12] <BornSlippy> pacifist: sl t
[19:12] <BornSlippy> whoops
[19:13] <Q-FUNK> vigo: right.   removing compiz did not fix it.  we tried already.
[19:13] <user1> hi, trying Ratpoison, it's not showing up under options on boot menu 8.10  any ideas,, I just want to try it out once
[19:13] <x_> i kno this is no the right channel but its really general question.... i forgot wat port i my roomate set up torrents on how to do find out witch port it is
[19:13] <BornSlippy> pacifist: so to make it work it's going to be like early Ubuntu versions and wireless network cards? I still wake up screaming remembering trying to do that a couple of years ago
[19:14] <Pici> BornSlippy: What do you mean by Ubuntu 1.10? Thats not a valid version number.
[19:14] <BornSlippy> err 6.10 sorry
[19:14] <Pici> BornSlippy: 6.10 is no longer supported, sorry.
[19:14]  * nbuntu is watching The Office
[19:15] <phantomcircuit> where is the python 2to3 tool?
[19:15] <vigo> Q-FUNK: Ok, that was the most likely scenario, next is the etc/X11, or xorg, could just be a driver issue, I had major problems with the Proprietary one, dumped it and went open source.
[19:15] <phantomcircuit> nvm
[19:15] <BornSlippy> pici: I'm sorry, my brain must be melting. I am talking about 8.10
[19:15] <ptn107> Need help.  Added       phil   ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/apt-get     to sudoers file (syntax is correct i did a visudo -c) yet i still get an error 'could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 permission denied)   what else do i have to add to the sudoers file to get this to work?
[19:16] <Q-FUNK> vigo: so you'd suggest manually hacking xorg.conf to use e.g. vesa from root prompt?
[19:16] <user1> hi, trying Ratpoison, it's not showing up under options on boot menu 8.10  any ideas,, I just want to try it out once, Bash Reports 'there can be only ONE'
[19:16] <vigo> Q-FUNK: I would think that is where the error is at.
[19:17] <vigo> Q-FUNK: That is what backups are for, after it works,,,,
[19:17] <sbeh> [thunderbird] hi, choosing view -> toolbars -> customize ... does not popup the customzation-dialog, but i can drag&drop all icons and so on, but i am not able to leave the 'customization-mode' until i close thunderbird, what can be the reason for that?
[19:17] <dft_> anyone else having/had issues with oOo odt files being opened by calc instead of writer???
[19:18] <LjL> ptn107: works for me
[19:18] <BornSlippy> so in short, I'm having problems getting my USB dongle working in ubuntu 8.10
[19:18] <ampm> how is an expert with 8.1?
[19:18] <LjL> ptn107: you, err, *are* using sudo before apt-get?
[19:18] <ampm> who is an expert with 8.1?
[19:18] <Promille> Hey. Does anybody know if its possible burning a bluray (.mkv) to a DVD (If its under 4,7GB) and play it at a normal DVD-Player?
[19:19] <user1> hi, trying Ratpoison, it's not showing up under options on boot menu 8.10  any ideas? I just want to try it out once, Bash Reports 'there can be only ONE'
[19:19] <ampm> does anyone know how to use a bluetooth keyboard with version 8.1?
[19:19] <user1> I just tried to ctrl+alt+back to exit gnome then run ratpoison, no dice
[19:20] <ptn107> LjL: I put NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/apt-get  in sudoers so i dont have to use a password
[19:20] <vigo> Q-FUNK: here is how the command line works, sorta: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1084499&highlight=screen+blank
[19:21] <papapep> ampm: have you tried plugging it to see if it works out of the box????
[19:21] <LjL> ptn107: no but you still have to put "sudo" before "apt-get"....
[19:22] <ptn107> LjL: then whats the point of NOPASSWD?
[19:22] <fdsae> how exactly do i increase my screen resolution?
[19:22] <LjL> ptn107: not asking you for a password, i guess?
[19:22] <fdsae> do i have to tweak some config file or what
[19:22] <ampm> how do i install bluetooth keyboard on version 8.1?
[19:22] <LjL> ptn107: how would sudoers manage something that's not lauched using sudo?
[19:23] <michael__> alias apt-get="sudo apt-get"
[19:23] <todd> I am having some issues with the for command, I am trying... for f in $(find . | grep \.jpg) do echo $f done
[19:23] <todd> wtf???
[19:23] <LjL> todd: you're missing semicolons methinks
[19:23] <LjL> todd: also, that won't work with files containing spaces
[19:23] <Pici> todd: Why would you use a for loop for that? just do: find . -iname "*.jpg"
[19:23] <spunk> todd: you need semicolons. put one after "echo".
[19:24] <spunk> todd "echo $f;" that is...
[19:24] <LjL> spunk: and one before do
[19:24] <spunk> LjL: true
[19:24] <todd> spunk: ok how do I execute a command for a set of files??? this should be easy right???
[19:25] <LjL> todd: "find" has an -exec option. "man find".
[19:25] <spunk> todd: I think you can use "find" for that...
[19:25] <psyk> hey guy's, have anyone a idea why i get 'audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink: Could not open audio device for playback.' when i want to test my usb soundcard with alsa..but when i swap to oss it works fine?
[19:25] <todd> spunk: the problem is I need to be in the dir of the file for the command to work
[19:26] <_Garfield_> psyk, yes
[19:26] <_Garfield_> psyk, the audio is already in use
[19:26] <todd> pastebin
[19:26] <todd> pastebin?
[19:26] <todd> where is pastebin?
[19:26] <LjL> todd: you can include a "cd" command in the -exec.
[19:26] <spunk> todd: ok. well, your initial idea should work. let me try..
[19:26] <Pici> !paste | todd
[19:26] <vigo> !pastebin
[19:26] <LjL> !pastebin > todd    (todd, see the private message from ubottu)
[19:26] <LjL> spunk: unless there's spaces in the filenames.
[19:26] <vigo> whoops, I flooded
[19:27] <liminal> hi
[19:27] <todd> I am trying this... http://paste.ubuntu.com/127382/ HELP!!!
[19:27] <Linux> ><
[19:27] <Linux> [06.03.2009 20:27:26] [Notice] -NickServ- You cannot identify to Linux because the nickname has been frozen. < x_x
[19:27] <psyk> _Garfield_, i have also an onboard card but ubuntu does not record from its mic input, thats why i got the usb one...could the onboard be the problem? (im relativ new to ubuntu)
[19:28] <LjL> todd: no need for those semicolons, if you're doing it on separate lines.
[19:28] <Ashka> Hum
[19:28] <Ashka> Wait a minute
[19:28] <mestopholeese> user1: you have to add a file at /usr/share/xsessions
[19:28] <Ashka> System -> Preferences -> Sound
[19:28] <Ashka> psyk, try all you can
[19:28] <todd> Ljl: look at http://paste.ubuntu.com/127382/ it will make more sense there
[19:28] <liminal> http://paste.ubuntu.com/127384/
[19:28] <LjL> todd: that should be:   cd $(dirname "$f")
[19:28] <LjL> todd: i've looked, that's why i'm telling you that.
[19:28] <Pici> todd: Why won't: find . -iname "*.jpg" -execdir exiftool -comment="text" {};   work?
[19:29] <spunk> LjL, todd: its true about the spaces... If i recall correctly, it should be possible to "config" sh to consider spaces as non-field breaks...
[19:29] <liminal> my alsa sound driver seems to be broken
[19:29] <liminal> since the last update
[19:29] <Ashka> liminal, try PulseAudio
[19:29] <vega> i can't believe eclipse has been the same version since gutsy, apparently it's not maintained at all in ubuntu?
[19:29] <Ashka> or OSS
[19:29] <psyk> Ashka, i tried...oss works, but i want to have sound from more then one app ;)
[19:29] <vega> not a java developers distro i guess..
[19:29] <_VIM_> !latest | vega
[19:29] <Ashka> psyk, and PulseAudio ?
[19:29] <michael__> !backports
[19:29] <liminal> can i use pulseaudio instead of alsa?
[19:30] <vega> _VIM_: err, i don't really think that counts for eclipse..
[19:30] <_VIM_> and why wouldnt it?
[19:30] <BigMoopies> Why is pidgin not kept up to date?
[19:30] <BigMoopies> Or how would I install the latest version
[19:30] <_VIM_> a package is a package
[19:30] <Ashka> psyk, try command pulseaudio
[19:30] <Pici> !latest > BigMoopies
[19:30] <spionlala> BigMoopies, you need to compile it
[19:31] <LjL> Pici: because you need to escape the {} and the ; properly ;)
[19:31] <_VIM_> BigMoopies: maybe there's a !PPA for one that might be newer
[19:31] <ab1sc410> aMSN does not support 640x480 web cam, That's right ?
[19:31] <Pici> LjL: er, \; then
[19:31] <LjL> Pici: and '{}'
[19:31] <liminal> ive tried pulseaudio still doesnt work
[19:31] <vega> _VIM_: this kinda tells it all: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/eclipse/+bug/123064
[19:31] <BigMoopies> _VIM_, "PPA" ?
[19:31] <todd> spunk: I got this so far, still not working http://paste.ubuntu.com/127389/
[19:31] <BigMoopies> !ppa
[19:32] <LjL> Pici: and a space between the two
[19:32] <todd> spunk: I got this so far, still not working http://paste.ubuntu.com/127389/
[19:32] <Ashka> liminal, can you restore before the update ?
[19:32] <Pici> LjL: Okay okay.
[19:32] <_VIM_> BigMoopies: go to that site and search for the package you want
[19:32] <liminal> i dont know how do i do a restore?
[19:32] <spunk> todd: ok, lets see...
[19:32] <vega> _VIM_: stability is not a reason here, the current package has lots of serious bugs
[19:33] <ab1sc410> Hi. Anyone know if aMSN or other messenger client take support for webcam with 640x480 ?
[19:33] <LjL> Pici: and the posix 2.304A standard says you lose, and there's an RFC that says you're wrong unless proven right.
[19:33] <yuri_> what is the easiest method to set up a sock5 server? i need very few options i jst want to bypass firewalls
[19:33] <BigMoopies> _VIM_, "Your search query "pidgin 2.5.5" didn't return any results. Please change some terms and refer "
[19:34] <_VIM_> guess there isnt one then hah?
[19:34] <psyk> Ashka, with pa i hear nothing :(
[19:34] <tobywuk> is it possible to sync iphone content with ubuntu with out jailbreaking it?
[19:34] <Pici> tobywuk: No, sorry.
[19:34] <Ashka> Hmm
[19:34] <Ashka> psyk, try to reboot
[19:34] <dkorzhevin> tobywuk: Yes
[19:34] <tobywuk> so there is a no and a yes :/ lol
[19:34] <BigMoopies> _VIM_, It's not possible to get a list of what they have?
[19:34] <psyk> Ashka, i did allready
[19:34] <tobywuk> if the answer is yes: how, what software does it?
[19:34] <Pici> tobywuk: Well, if there is, its news to me.
[19:35] <Ashka> psyk, ...i don't know
[19:35] <_VIM_> BigMoopies: searching for pidgin would show all the packages on that ppa site if there are any.
[19:35] <Ashka> I already have this problem
[19:35] <tobywuk> Pici, thanks :)
[19:35] <Ashka> I rebooted and all is ok
[19:35] <liminal> is there an automatic restore point made by ubuntu?
[19:35] <Pici> liminal: Nope.
[19:35] <Ashka> liminal, i dont know
[19:35] <psyk> Ashka, is it possible to get a clue why the device couldnt be opened?
[19:35] <liminal> i cant restorethen
[19:35] <spunk> todd: so, to recap, your problem is the handling of filenames with spaces right?
[19:35] <BigMoopies> _VIM_, I searched for xchat, xmms, and pidgin .  All with no results
[19:35] <_VIM_> BigMoopies: if you're just searching for packages that are already included in ubuntu try packages.ubuntu.com
[19:36] <Ashka> psyk, go to Sound preferences
[19:36] <shawger> liminal: ubuntu does not have a windows-like restore feature
[19:36] <ab1sc410_> #hack
[19:36] <Ashka> And click Try
[19:36] <Pici> Ashka: If you don't know the answer to a question, just don't answer.  We'd have a lot more traffic in here if everyone said 'i don't know' to questions they didn't know the answer to.
[19:36] <Ashka> Pici, okay
[19:36] <Ashka> But
[19:36] <todd> spunk: yep, trying to bulk retag files so its more of a exiftool problem, works one file at a time though
[19:37] <Ashka> psyk, Click try, and if ubuntu can't play the test sound, Ubuntu say a error message
[19:37] <zilleplus> annyone has skype and wanna explane to me how to set a domain name????
[19:38] <zilleplus> annyone has skype and wanna explane to me how to set a domain name????
[19:38] <spunk> todd, LjL: ok... bash (sh) has a special variable called "IFS" -- Internal Field Separator. IFS can be used to control how bash/sh splits strings internally with respect to spaces.
[19:38] <todd> spunk: um ok...???
[19:38] <spunk> todd, LjL: do a "man sh" and search for "IFS".
[19:39] <spunk> todd, LjL: apparently, if you set IFS to null, bash/sh will not do any string splitting due to any characters.
[19:40] <mestopholeese> I have a problem with a proxy setting.  It does not go away when I unset it. Can anyone help?
[19:40] <todd> spunk so for f in $(find . | grep \.jpg) dose not work as you would expect
[19:40] <spunk> todd, LjL: try this at the beginning of your script: IFS=""
[19:40] <zilleplus> annyone has skype and wanna explane to me how to set a domain name????
[19:40] <_VIM_> !anyone | zilleplus
[19:41] <ampm> how do i install a bluetooth keyboard on version 8.1 all other posts i have read do not work
[19:41] <NativeAngels> when setting up a virtual host in apache do you use your publicip or localip ?
[19:41] <vigo> zilleplus: http://www.icann.org/ <<<that explains it
[19:42] <ross> i have a cd in my cdrom drive and I cannot run it
[19:42] <ross> what is the command for starting up a cd
[19:42] <shawger> ross: what kind of cd? audio? data?
[19:42] <ross> shawger: data
[19:42] <shawger> ross: ubuntu should mount it automatically
[19:43] <ross> shawger: it doesn't
[19:43] <Ashka> ross, sudomount /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom -o force
[19:43] <CompuHacker> What OS is the data for?
[19:43] <vigo> ross: is it mounted?
[19:43] <Ashka> *sudo mount
[19:43] <spunk> todd, LjL: I did some tests. If I put IFS= at the top of the script it works for me... Note! just type "IFS=" at the beginning, nothing should go after the equal sign.
[19:43] <CompuHacker> Or is it simply files?
[19:43] <ross> what is mounting?
[19:43] <SEVILLA> hey im new to ubuntu and vbox and im having problems with access to my host usb from vbox can anyone help me i tried #vbox but i got no  help
[19:43] <korg_> ross: mount <dev> <mount_point>
[19:43] <ampm> what is the command for connecting a bluetooth keyboard to version 8.1?
[19:43] <shawger> ross: go to places->Computer. Its not there?
[19:43] <korg_> SEVILLA: use shared folders
[19:44] <SEVILLA> korg_: tried that
[19:44] <_VIM_> SEVILLA: did you get the Sun's vbox or the virtualbox-ose? from what i understand, the ose does not support USB
[19:44] <todd> spunk: OK I am not sure take a look at... http://paste.ubuntu.com/127399/
[19:44] <ross> it says that i cannot find auto run program
[19:44] <ross> i dont' understand
[19:44] <spunk> todd, LjL: wait a minute. Don't you have to return to the base directory also?
[19:44] <todd> spunk: I think the CD is broken
[19:44] <lasivian> I have a working 8.10 EXT2 install, I want to encrypt my HD, how should I go about doing this please? thanks
[19:44] <zilleplus> does anyone has skype and wanna explane to me how to set a domain name????
[19:44] <tdn> I have some files with filenames in some strange encoding. Is there a program that can "guess" which encoding it is? I want to convmv them to utf8.
[19:45] <todd> spunk: ah very true
[19:45] <spunk> todd, exactly. You gave to return to the "base" directory. Let's store that one in a variable. like "BASE=`pwd`. and then do a cd "$BASE"
[19:45] <shawger> ross: what happens when you go to Places->Computer and try to open the CD drive from there?
[19:45] <SEVILLA> _VIM_: yes i saw that but sure  i have optins for the vbox though
[19:46] <spunk> todd: after you've done the exif-thing that is...
[19:46] <ross> shawger: it says it cannot find the autorun software
[19:46] <vega> tdn: "file" might say something about it
[19:46] <ross> shawger: should I try to open it with other applications?
[19:46] <ross> shawger: and what is mounting?
[19:46] <pato> oi
[19:46] <pato> dfjdkfs
[19:46] <tdn> vega, nope. File only tells me about the *contents* of a file. I am talking about the file names.
[19:46] <shawger> ross: mounting just lets you access the content on the cd
[19:46] <spunk> todd: so, are you getting the drift? put the pwd-stuff before the loop and then put the CD "$BASE" after the exif-stuff.
[19:46] <vega> tdn: ah
[19:46] <ross> shawger: thank you
[19:46] <ross> shawger: but it's not running
[19:47] <spunk> todd: you still need to do the "IFS="
[19:47] <shawger> ross: can you just open it with the file manager?
[19:47] <shawger> ross: are you trying to run an application off of it?
[19:47] <ross> shawger: how do i do that
[19:47] <ross> shawger: there are application that i need to install, this cd comes with the mobo
[19:47] <shawger> ross: its probably for windows then
[19:47] <ross> shawger: i need to install drivers and such
[19:47] <rokr1> hello guys
[19:47] <ross> shawger: you're probably right, i did not think of that
[19:47] <shawger> ross: no you probably don't need to install these drivers if you're using ubuntu
[19:47] <ross> shawger: then what can i do?
[19:47] <todd> spunk: arrgh! I thought we had it there... http://paste.ubuntu.com/127401/
[19:48] <shawger> ross: you probably don't need to do anything...
[19:48] <spunk> todd: lets see...
[19:48] <rokr1> can is there any solution for GUI network login in UBUNTU
[19:48] <rokr1> ??
[19:48] <SEVILLA> _VIM_: k i checked i have vbox
[19:48] <ross> shawger: how come?
[19:48] <shawger> ross: is there some hardware on your computer that isn't working?
[19:48] <ross> shawger: the audio seems a little off
[19:48] <_VIM_> SEVILLA: ose? or suns?
[19:48] <ross> shawger: it's working
[19:48] <vigo> lasivian: Try GNU-PG?
[19:48] <orudie> hi question. I installed roundcube webmail client a few weeks ago, how can i now find out which version i installed
[19:48] <shawger> ross: ubuntu comes with a lot of drivers and can usually autodetect everything
[19:48] <ross> shawger: but it's not lound
[19:48] <SEVILLA> _VIM_: suns
[19:48] <ross> shawger: ah
[19:48] <ross> shawger: also
[19:48] <spunk> todd: change IFS="" to IFS=
[19:49] <ross> shawger: how can i go about installing virtualbox
[19:49] <spunk> todd: that is, don't put anything after the equal sign.
[19:49] <ross> shawger: i would like to be able to access windows partition from here
[19:49] <todd> spunk: done, no joy
[19:49] <SEVILLA> _VIM_: suns xvm
[19:49] <spunk> todd: ok...
[19:49] <_VIM_> SEVILLA: ok it should support most usb devices then, what are you trying to hook up exactly?
[19:49] <shawger> ross: you don't need virtualbox to do that
[19:49] <ross> shawger: how can i access another OS?
[19:50] <_VIM_> SEVILLA: xvm? is this on windows? if so you should ask in ##windows or #vbox
[19:50] <shawger> ross: what do you mean by access windows?
[19:50] <shawger> ross: as in files on a windows partition, or you want to run windows programs?
[19:50] <ross> shawger: i would like to allocate certain HD space to windows
[19:50] <spunk> todd: im still looking. hang on. :-)
[19:50] <shawger> ross: do you have a dual-boot setup currently?
[19:51] <todd> spunk: cool thanks man!
[19:51] <ross> shawger: no i do not
[19:51] <shawger> ross: do you want to dual-boot, or run windows in a virtualized environment?
[19:51] <SEVILLA> _VIM_: no my host is 8.04 and i have 8.10 on a box and i want to access a lexmar usb on my host
[19:51] <ross> shawger: but i believe i can install windows through virtual box
[19:51] <shawger> ross: yes you can
[19:51] <ross> shawger: does it matter?
[19:51] <ross> shawger: i mean, what is the better optoin
[19:51] <shawger> ross: virtualbox is synaptic
[19:51] <spunk> todd: try IFS="\n"
[19:51] <ross> shawger: also, my computer does not detect the windows cd for some reason
[19:52] <shawger> ross: virtualbox will let you run both linux and windows at the same time, but it will be a little slower than if you dual boot
[19:52] <_VIM_> SEVILLA: does the lexmar usually work ok in ubuntu?
[19:52] <shawger> ross: the advantage is mainly convenience
[19:52] <psyk> Ashka, i gues i come closer to the problem.. the soundcard is not listed at .. asoundconf list
[19:52] <todd> spunk nope
[19:52] <ross> shawger: ok
[19:52] <_VIM_> lexmark*
[19:52] <ross> shawger: do you have any idea why my desktop is not detecting my windows cd?
[19:52] <Ashka> psyk, wow
[19:52] <SEVILLA> _VIM_: yes i use it all the time with my host hardy
[19:52] <orudie> hi question. I installed roundcube webmail client a few weeks ago, how can i now find out which version i installed
[19:52] <kernelpannik> also, the official less-free version of vbox (NOT the one in the repos) supports USB devices, among other things, which the OSE version does not
[19:53] <Ashka> psyk, Are you sure your soundcard is functionnal ?
[19:53] <shawger> ross: what do you mean it isn't detecting it? does it not show up anywhere?
[19:53] <ross> shawger: it doesn't
[19:53] <kernelpannik> @orudie, did you install it with apt?
[19:53] <ross> shawger: unlike the ubuntu cd
[19:53] <psyk> yes :D with oss i have sount on it ;)
[19:53] <orudie> kernelpannik, yes
[19:53] <ross> shawger: the cdrom drive doesn't detect it when it starts and i don't understand why
[19:53] <ross> can you tell me?
[19:53] <qcjn> my http://qcjn.no-ip.org:81/ would there be a way that the redirection of my no-ip include :81
[19:53] <todd> spunk: if I cd and do the exiftool -comment="Property of The MRA" file.jpg it works
[19:53] <ross> shawger: brb in a minute or two
[19:54] <shawger> ross: you are trying to open this cd from within ubuntu, right?
[19:54] <kernelpannik> @orudie, aptitude show PACKAGENAME, such as aptitude show roundcube
[19:54] <ross> shawger: no when i boot up
[19:54] <SEVILLA> _VIM_: could it just be my usb
[19:54] <ross> shawger: the desktop does not recognize it
[19:54] <kernelpannik> ...or whatever it is, anyway, version numbers will be in there
[19:54] <_VIM_> SEVILLA: na not if it works in ubuntu without vbox
[19:54] <shawger> ross: you are trying to boot off this cd in order to install windows?
[19:54] <spunk> todd: ok... I'm still struggling with setting IFS to the proper value. using IFS= just gives all file names a one single string...
[19:54] <shawger> ross: if you use virtualbox, you install windows from *within* linux
[19:55] <_VIM_> SEVILLA: sounds like a setting is not set correctly or a bug with xvm
[19:55] <shawger> ross: as in you start a virtualbox session and then use that to install windows
[19:55] <cactusfrog> hi
[19:55] <SEVILLA> _VIM_: its weird i enabled on my guest and i can see it in the gui on the bottom but its greyd out
[19:55] <cactusfrog> how much does a GUI slow down a server
[19:55] <cactusfrog> ?
[19:55] <kernelpannik> @orudie, make sense?
[19:56] <todd> spunk: to test put a jpg in a sub dir, and run, should just work for you too right?
[19:56] <orudie> kernelpannik, yes
[19:56] <cactusfrog> anyone know
[19:56] <kernelpannik> cook
[19:56] <cactusfrog> because my freind told me to get server adition but i am not sure if its the best
[19:56] <SEVILLA> _VIM_: i will keep trying thanks though
[19:57] <Slart> cactusfrog: it won't slow you down anything.. might take a little more memory though
[19:57] <kernelpannik> @cactusfrog, if ur not sure, you prolly dont need the X-less version ;)
[19:57] <cactusfrog> but if i have 4 gigs
[19:57] <Legumebo_Magezfe> hey can somebody help me disable hardware acceleration on a dell dimension 2400 w/ intel integrated extreme graphics card? I'm really new to linux and am trying to fix a choppy video playback problem
[19:57] <cactusfrog> it will be fine right
[19:57] <Slart> cactusfrog: I don't think you'll notice a difference
[19:57] <cactusfrog> ok
[19:57] <brutus> what should I enter for the video card bus location in dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?
[19:57] <Slart> cactusfrog: why not try xubuntu if you're worried about performance
[19:57] <_VIM_> SEVILLA: I'd ask in #vbox, I know you said they didnt answer you, but just be patient :)
[19:58] <renatosrabelo> hi guys . i have a problem . im trying to connect a nokia n95 as a webcam via smartacam app . with ubuntu . have anyone  tryied this out ?
[19:58] <spunk> todd: think I solved it. The solution looks a bit odd, but I think it is consistent: write IFS=" on one line, and on the following, put a single "
[19:58] <shawger> ross: sorry I have to go
[19:58] <SEVILLA> _VIM_: k :)
[19:58] <spunk> todd: that way we are able to put a new line character into IFS, telling bash to break strings at new line characters.
[19:58] <Guest69598> hey guys
[19:58] <cactusfrog> i am not worried about preoformance
[19:58] <cactusfrog> i am hosting a q3 server
[19:59] <cactusfrog> on a 64bit dule core computer with 4 gigs
[19:59] <ross> shawger: ah thank you anyways
[19:59] <todd> spunk: whew!!! I am going to go post a big ass blog about that! lol
[19:59] <spunk> todd: did it work? :-)
[20:00] <Guest69598> who here works as a developer
[20:00] <todd> spunk: yes and it makes total sense... a bit odd but I get it
[20:00] <spunk> todd: nice! what is your blogg URL? ;-)
[20:01] <Slart> Guest69598: why not just ask your question.. the real one
[20:01] <njk123> hi all
[20:01] <_VIM_> Guest69598: just ask your question, do not try to seek out the "pros" in here
[20:01] <_VIM_> slart get out of my head ok?
[20:01] <_VIM_> ;)
[20:01] <njk123> i am getting pissed off with the wired network problem in ubuntu. what to do?
[20:01] <todd> spunk: myspace find todd musheno
[20:01] <Slart> _VIM_: but it's comfy.. and you clean more often than I do =)
[20:01] <todd> spunk: thanks again!
[20:01] <SandGorgon> anyone tried the Droid fonts? they are prettty coool...
[20:01] <_VIM_> haha
[20:01] <Pici> !ot
[20:02] <spunk> todd: ok, I'll read it. You're welcome, I'm glad I could help.
[20:02] <Slart> SandGorgon: droid? got a link? or are they in the repos?
[20:02] <renatosrabelo> Has anyone tried to connect a nokia n95 as a webcam via smartcam  in ubuntu?
[20:02] <njk123> thinking of reluctantly installing opensuse
[20:02] <njk123> please tell me a solution guys
[20:02] <root> hulloa!!
[20:02] <Guest69598> ok sorry about asking guys, when using the "screen" terminal multiplexor and dettaching an application to be reattached later, is there a way to foward the graphical front end so you can resume it later, as it stands now you can only resume terminal based applications
[20:02] <Legumebo_Magezfe> anyone know how to disable hardware acceleration ? w/ knoppix perhaps?
[20:02] <brutus> why amn't I able to change use the nvidia-glx-new driver even after I've installed it?
[20:03] <joinAD> Anybody familiar with joining Ubuntu to a Active Directory domain?
[20:03] <SandGorgon> Slart: Droid font is in the Android repo. The link is on the wikipedia page <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Droid_(font)>
[20:04] <Pici> Legumebo_Magezfe: Please ask in #knoppix, this is the Ubuntu support channel.
[20:04] <Legumebo_Magezfe> i was just wondering if there was any way
[20:04] <brutus> I'm not able to use the nvidia card even after I've installed the nvidia-glx-new driver...what's wrong?
[20:04] <Legumebo_Magezfe> I'm not really familiarr w/ all this
[20:05] <Legumebo_Magezfe> I was just wondering if there was an easy way to do it
[20:05] <tomeff> hi
[20:05] <joinAD> with joining a AD domain Legumebo?
[20:05] <Guest69598> hmmm guess not
[20:05] <Legumebo_Magezfe> ?
[20:05] <Pici> Legumebo_Magezfe: If you're asking about Knoppix, we aren't going to know. /join #knoppix
[20:05] <joinAD> sry... to much spam in this channel
[20:06] <Legumebo_Magezfe> well I'm just trying to figure out this video playback problem. its really choppy and there are horizontal lines... anyone know anything about that? I have all the codecs required
[20:06] <andybond13> anyone, I'm having a problem where my login screen shows text, instead of the usual bar loading graphic, why?
[20:06] <Pici> Legumebo_Magezfe: What operating system are you running?
[20:07] <Legumebo_Magezfe> ubuntu intrepid
[20:07] <joinAD> have u tried playing with VLC player Legumebo?
[20:07] <ZykoticK9> Guest69598, i'm certainly not aware of anyway to tie screen into gui apps - was hoping someone had the answer though...  but i don't think it's possible.  i think VNC might maintain your apps even when your not connected???
[20:07] <Legumebo_Magezfe> yup
[20:07] <Legumebo_Magezfe> doesnt play internet vids well either
[20:07] <Shootdown> hi
[20:07] <Shootdown> does anyone know why is +auto.master entry at /etc/auto.master file for ?
[20:07] <glitsj16> Legumebo_Magezfe: have you tried experimenting with your video player(s) video output options yet to see if that cimproves things ?
[20:08] <meho_r> andybond13: wrong vga settings maybe
[20:08] <Guest69598> ZykoticK9: yeah i've been told just to use VNC but that seems like an aweful lot just for a single app
[20:08] <ninom> Hello everyone! I am having problems with my soundcard and how to setup preferences for it etc. I have no sound at all. My sound card is creative labs x fi
[20:08] <Legumebo_Magezfe> yes I've tried that. Is there any specific setting I should modify?
[20:08] <Guest65378> « Un saluto a tutto il canale! »
[20:08] <Guest65378> 1
[20:08] <Guest65378> list!
[20:08] <Pici> !it | Guest65378
[20:08] <Slart> SandGorgon: ah.. pretty nice.. a little larger than other alternatives.. but still nice
[20:08] <Rencx> can i use gpartet to shrik hard disk and make one for windows?
[20:08] <bonobo> hey there, i need to desactivate the update function, how do i do that
[20:08] <bonobo> ?
[20:09] <Slart> Guest65378: no file servers here.. think you might be on the wrong server altogheter for that
[20:09] <jrib> bonobo: be more specific
[20:09] <glitsj16> Legumebo_Magezfe: not really, usually xv or opengl vieo output modes work ok .. just a thought sorry
[20:09] <bonobo> i do not want my system to update, plain and simle
[20:09] <Slart> bonobo: system, administration, software sources..
[20:10] <Legumebo_Magezfe> glitsj16:so would that be in vlc prefs?
[20:10] <jrib> bonobo: it doesn't update unless you tell it to.  But it's a bad idea anyway.  You should at least install security updates
[20:10] <Slart> bonobo: listen to jrib.. he speaks wise words..
[20:10] <sxxs> hi
[20:10] <sxxs> hi ,every body
[20:10] <ninom> problem no sound. sound card is creative labs x fi. system find the card but no sound at all. maybe preferences?
[20:10] <ulamSpiral> hello
[20:11] <Slart> nimrood: I think the problem is that it's a "creative labs x fi", period
[20:11] <Slart> sorry nimrood
[20:11] <ninom> how about delta 66 i have this card too.
[20:11] <Legumebo_Magezfe> glitsj16: yeah its been in open Gl and im running it in xv now and theres no difference
[20:11] <ninom> but it doesnt work
[20:11] <Rencx> can i use gpartet to shrink hard disk and make one for windows?
[20:11] <Slart> ninom: : I think the problem is that it's a "creative labs x fi", period
[20:11] <ninom> m-audio delta 66
[20:11] <bonobo> actually my connection is so slow that i can't fathom how anybody can hack into my system, provided that they can find me !
[20:11] <Slart> nimrood: I don't know about that card.. never used it
[20:11] <quibbler> bonobo: software sources uncheck updates......as has been said this is a bad idea
[20:12] <andybond13> anyone, I'm having a problem where my pre-login loading screen shows text, instead of the usual bar loading graphic, why?
[20:12] <ulamSpiral> another quick screen question, are verticle aplits possible
[20:12] <bonobo> already done, thanks
[20:12] <ulamSpiral> splits*
[20:12] <ninom> well i have delta 66 m-audio when i had 8.04 it used to work now on 8.10 it doesnt ?>
[20:12] <Legumebo_Magezfe> glitsj16: my friend said he had the same problem and to disable hardware acceleration but ive been trying to figure out how to do that all day w/ noi luck... I'm new to linux btw
[20:12] <Slart> nimrood: last I checked there were some oss drivers for the x-fi card.. don't know how far along those are or if there are alsa support now.. it was bad some time ago
[20:12] <ninom> how do i download those
[20:12] <ninom> i tried google
[20:13] <Slart> ninom: I have no idea.. I use an audigy2 myself
[20:13] <Rencx> Slart: hi, can u help me?
[20:13] <Slart> Rencx: well.. I can't really say until you tell me what's wrong
[20:13] <bonobo> if that happened to be a bad idea, be sure that i will cry for some advice to restore my system, in the meantime i thank you for the quick answer
[20:13] <Slart> Rencx: but I'll give it a try
[20:13] <bonobo> ;-p
[20:13] <ZykoticK9> andybond13, the screen you are referring to is called usplash - did you try to install a usplash screen (intrepid uses a different version of usplash and the old themes don't work with it, and will give you just the text screen if installed)...  good luck
[20:13] <bonobo> have a good day all
[20:13] <glitsj16> Legumebo_Magezfe: no worries, linux is so broad that everyone is new to some parts of tit .. disabling hardware acceleration is done in /etc/X11/xorg.conf i think, never done it so not really a clue
[20:13] <Rencx> Slart: i want install windows can i shrink ne hard disk to make new one?
[20:13] <SandGorgon> Slart: i think it is better than most of the default alternatives there are . I wouldnt mind Droid being the default on Ubuntu - it was designed to be readable even on small screen devices
[20:14] <Slart> Rencx: probably.. gparted can shrink some file systems.. depending on what kind
[20:14] <Legumebo_Magezfe> glitsj16: so my xorg.conf seems to not have hardly any info in it... is this normal for intrepid?
[20:14] <meho_r> andybond13: try adding to line at GRUB when booting: vga=791
[20:15] <Slart> Rencx: if you start gnome partition editor there is a "features" menu option.. there you can see what it can do to which file systems
[20:15] <Rencx> Slart: now i have ext3
[20:15] <Getty> can someone please explain to me why if [ "${MODULEBUILDRC}" == "" ]; then
[20:15] <Slart> Rencx: well.. open up gparted and click "show features" and see if it can shrink ext3
[20:15] <Getty> doesnt work on an ubuntu?
[20:16] <ulamSpiral> how does openSolaris fair in comparison to Ubuntu, I'm thinking to throwing it on a spare machine
[20:16] <glitsj16> Legumebo_Magezfe: it's typical for the newer version of Xorg server yes, it's meant to be like that to enable 'hotplugging' devices without mangling config files
[20:16] <rabbit_ubuntu> Hey guys
[20:16] <jrib> Getty: be more specific
[20:16] <rabbit_ubuntu> Im having trouble getting Windows XP to pick up my USB device. Im using Vbox
[20:16] <rabbit_ubuntu> Can anyone assist?
[20:17] <Legumebo_Magezfe> glitsj16: oic. um, do you know how I might be able to edit xorg.conf then?
[20:17] <Slart> rabbit_ubuntu: are you using the OSE version?
[20:17] <ninom> downloaded driver for linux for creative labs x fi. how to install driver
[20:17] <Getty> jrib: i got it... /bin/sh isnt /bin/bash on ubuntu...
[20:17] <rabbit_ubuntu> Umm...
[20:17] <rabbit_ubuntu> I dont know...
[20:17] <rabbit_ubuntu> I dont belive so though
[20:17] <ZykoticK9> ulamSpiral, it's very different.  doesn't have nearly the hardware or software support that Ubuntu does, for a desktop they are night and day.  you pretty much have to have a compelling reason to choose Solaris over Ubuntu...
[20:17] <Slart> ninom: read the documentation that was available where you got the drivers
[20:17] <rabbit_ubuntu> @Slart:
[20:17] <Slart> rabbit_ubuntu: did you install it from the repos?
[20:17] <rabbit_ubuntu> Slart: Yes I ma
[20:17] <coder__> Am is supposed to just ask my question here? (this is my first time on Ubuntu IRC)
[20:17] <rabbit_ubuntu> Slart:Am*
[20:17] <Rencx> Slart: can i resize /home partition?
[20:18] <mestopholeese_> coder__: yes.
[20:18] <Slart> rabbit_ubuntu: because the OSE version doesn't support usb.. you'll have to get the non-free version if you want usb support
[20:18] <glitsj16> Legumebo_Magezfe: try doing a websearch on your graphics card model/type + disable hardware acceleration + ubuntu is about my best advice on thi i'm afraid
[20:18] <coder__> ok
[20:18] <rabbit_ubuntu> Slart: Oh....
[20:18] <ulamSpiral> ZykoticK9: It not really choosing one over the other for me, I'm an expirenced ubuntu user and I have a few extra machines lying around, I figured it would be fun to play with Dtrace and the ZFS
[20:18] <rabbit_ubuntu> Slart: How do I get that? And how much is it?
[20:18] <brutus> help! I cannot enable visual effects
[20:18] <Slart> Rencx: if you boot from a live cd and you can find a tool that can resize it.. sure.. don't do it on a live system while you're running it
[20:18] <glitsj16> Legumebo_Magezfe: the actual editing of the xorg.conf file in question is simpler, if you need help on that, give a shout
[20:19] <rabbit_ubuntu> Slart: Does the OSE version support CD drives?
[20:19] <Slart> rabbit_ubuntu: it's free.. (as in beer).. you can download it from their site.
[20:19] <rabbit_ubuntu> Oh
[20:19] <ZykoticK9> ulamSpiral, ok - just making sure you weren't a desktop user...  Solaris is "fun" to play with -- but this whole discussion is very OT, good luck man
[20:19] <coder__> On my Ubuntu (Acer Aspire One, 8.10), I have had a good overall experience, however: Sometimes my wireless just stops working suddenly. The message when I try to forcibly re-enable the wireless module from the command line is as follows: "SIOCSIFFLAGS: Resource temporarily unavailable"
[20:19] <Legumebo_Magezfe> glitsj16: ok will do... is there any gui in ubuntu or terminal prompt that I could find  the model type? all i could find was intel integrated extreme graphics card but i think i need more into than that
[20:19] <coder__> Why won't it enable at those times?
[20:19] <Slart> rabbit_ubuntu: I think so.. not sure though
[20:20] <rabbit_ubuntu> Slart: So what do I do to get that done? Remove my current Vbox? And then get the non free? Is there a code I could put in the terminal to get the nonfree version? Or is synaptic the way?
[20:20] <Doc`> ><
[20:20] <brutus> Mud|afk, could you please help me out with editing xorg.conf- my comp is refusing to use my graphics card. Here is my xorg.conf: http://pastebin.com/m1d0a3278
[20:20] <Slart> rabbit_ubuntu: uninstall the OSE version.. (sudo apt-get remove or use synaptic).. then download and install the other version.. I think there is a version available for ubuntu
[20:20] <ZykoticK9> rabbit_ubuntu, see http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads for repos of Sun's verions of VBox
[20:20] <kasya> hi
[20:20] <glitsj16> Legumebo_Magezfe: if you're looking for a GUI, sudo apt-get install glshw (a GUI for lshw, which lists all available hardware in your system with loads of info
[20:20] <quibbler> rabbit_ubuntu: remove the current vbox then download from here: http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads
[20:21] <kasya> i need help with running Multicliclker on Ubuntu
[20:21] <coder__> On my Ubuntu (Acer Aspire One, 8.10), I have had a good overall experience, however: Sometimes my wireless just stops working suddenly. The message when I try to forcibly re-enable the wireless module from the command line is as follows: "SIOCSIFFLAGS: Resource temporarily unavailable" Why won't it enable at times like this?
[20:21] <rabbit_ubuntu> Slart: Alright, thanks. Will be back if any problems
[20:21] <Rencx> Slart: is it easyer to make new and clean install with Ubuntu and Windows?
[20:21] <brutus> glitsj16, could you please help me out with editing xorg.conf- my comp is refusing to use my graphics card. Here is my xorg.conf: http://pastebin.com/m1d0a3278
[20:22] <kasya> can somebody help me to install and run Multiclicker on Ubuntu?
[20:22] <Rencx> Slart: and is it better?
[20:22] <Legumebo_Magezfe> couldnt find package glshw?
[20:22] <njk123> hi all
[20:22] <Slart> Rencx: that would depend on how much stuff you have got to reinstall.. just shrinking a partition won't take very long, I think
[20:22] <glitsj16> brutus: one moment please, having to correct something i directed at Legumebo_Magezfe
[20:22] <glitsj16> Legumebo_Magezfe: my bad, sudo apt-get install lshw-gtk
[20:23] <kasya> how to run Multiclicker on Ubuntu?
[20:23] <kasya> help me
[20:23] <brutus> glitsj16, no problemo...waiting :)
[20:23] <mestopholeese_> coder__: Do you know what version your Kernel is?
[20:23] <coder__> one sec
[20:23] <njk123> windows(desktop) shows that linux(lappy) got connected, i can even setup 192.168.0.2 for lappy but still they both cant ping each other
[20:24] <Legumebo_Magezfe> glitsj16: ok it totally worked this time. Thats all I need for now, thank you so much for all the help!
[20:24] <kasya> is somebody here using Multiclicker?
[20:24] <glitsj16> brutus: okay, o, did i mention that i'm far from an expert on xorg ? but i'll hve a look and report back
[20:24] <njk123> also when i keep same ip address for both comps. windows shows ip conflict, which means there is connectivity only thing ubuntu is having some problem
[20:24] <glitsj16> Legumebo_Magezfe: very welcome, hope you get some nice hits websearching to solve the issue
[20:24] <Slart> kasya: after googling for it, I doubt it
[20:24] <coder__> mestopholeese: I am using 2.6.27-11-generic
[20:24] <njk123> this suddenly happened after some updates, plz help
[20:25] <njk123> i am using 2.6.28-7
[20:25] <brutus> glitsj16, please help in whatever way you can- this has been bugging me for ages... :(
[20:25] <mestopholeese_> coder:  There is a bug with that kernel, and your network card: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AspireOne#Install%20Ubuntu%20Intrepid%20Ibex%208.10%20on%20the%20Acer%20Aspire%20One
[20:25] <AngryElf> so since the map laptops are all intel/nvidia does ubuntu run pretty well on them?
[20:25] <oomkiller> hey can anyone help me with my routing issues on ipv6
[20:25] <kasya> damn Multiclicker
[20:26] <oomkiller> i have it working fine from the router (ubuntu box)
[20:26] <oomkiller> but when a machine in the lan tries to forward through it, it doesnt work
[20:26] <glitsj16> brutus: ok, i understand the frustration, had the same issues at first getting graphics working, i'm going over your paste, give me a few minutes
[20:26] <shifty5> am i the only one having a problem with firefox after todays update?
[20:26] <mestopholeese_> coder__: It says to roll back to an earlier Kernel.
[20:26] <oomkiller> and the firewall is set to accept forwards by default
[20:26] <Slart> shifty5: no problems here
[20:26] <njk123> plz help me, my two comps and one with just one internet line :(
[20:26] <failers> how do i update 8.10 to jaunty
[20:27] <njk123> are*
[20:27] <coder__> mestopholeese_: ok, I've got other kernels on my GRUB screen.
[20:27] <Slart> !jaunty | failers
[20:27] <brutus> glitsj16, sure
[20:27] <coder__> mestopholeese_: I'll try those.
[20:27] <coder__> mestopholeese_: Thanks.
[20:27] <failers> Slart yes i know that but since im in 8.10 shouldnt i be asking here :P?
[20:27] <shifty5> slart, mine is like causeing the screen to flash and no title bar, weird
[20:28] <Slart> failers: I don't know how to upgrade =).. but I guess the people in #ubuntu+1 might.. just guessing they must get that question often
[20:28] <oomkiller> the sysctl is setup to enable forwarding too
[20:28] <failers> Slart ok :)
[20:28] <Slart> !upgrade | failers
[20:28] <Slart> failers: not sure if there is anything there about jaunty..
[20:28] <rampage73> picture recovery question , i have ubuntu 7.10 it does see my camera kodak easyshare c633 , it asks if i want to import (so gthumb sees it) but i cannot figure out where it lives to use dd to image it dmesg is not showing the device other than new usb device any ideas hints
[20:28] <rampage73> ?
[20:29] <failers> slart ok thanks will check if there is
[20:29] <coder__> Ex-Chat
[20:30] <njk123> windows(desktop) shows that linux(lappy) got connected, i can even setup 192.168.0.2 for lappy but still they both cant ping each other. also when i keep same ip address for both comps. windows shows ip conflict, which means there is connectivity only thing ubuntu is having some problem. this suddenly happened after some updates, plz help
[20:30] <Scunizi> rampage73: look in /media for a reference.. it should also show up in Places --> Computer
[20:30] <glitsj16> brutus: the newer versions of X try to generate as much info on your system without using xorg.conf ... if you are willing to give that a try, i would suggest you move your present xorg.conf out of the way for a moment (sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup) and restart your X server ... i'll be able to provie a command if i know what display manager you use, like gdm (gnome) or kdm (kde) ... do you know ?
[20:31] <rampage73> oh yea tried that sorry forgot to mention it does not show up yet i can import the photos that are present on it now
[20:31] <brutus> glitsj16, I use gnome...
[20:31] <rampage73> ubuntu just automagically recognizes it
[20:31] <rampage73> good tip though thanks Scunizi
[20:32] <Scunizi> rampage73: I have that issue with a nikon of mine.. never figured it out so I just bought a card reader :(
[20:32] <brutus> glitsj16, so I should mv the xorg.conf to xorg.conf.backup and restart xserver?
[20:32] <glitsj16> brutus: okay, so after moving your xorg.conf using the command mentioned, run "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart" to restart X, that will log you out, login again to see if it did anything useful
[20:32] <rampage73> sadly what i need to access is not on the card but the camera internal memory thanks anyway Scunizi
[20:33] <Scunizi> rampage73: you might look at the mount command
[20:33] <ninom> can anyone tell me how to do this "execute make command as root"
[20:33] <brandonban6> !backup
[20:33] <rampage73> thought i was just missing something has me stumped guess i might have to try windows :(
[20:33] <brutus> glitsj16, I'll brb after restarting X
[20:33] <glitsj16> ninom: use "sudo make"
[20:34] <glitsj16> brutus: deal, goodluck
[20:34] <nullstring> so, my xorg.conf is blank.. how do I get what should be in there..
[20:34] <ninom> glitsj16 this is creative labs driver. it tells me execute make command as root, than make, than make install
[20:34] <nullstring> configuring all that by hand sounds like pain
[20:34] <Raylz> hi, anyone managed to decrypt a pgp decrypted msg from thunderbird properly in evolution?
[20:34] <Scunizi> rampage73: have you looked at the info when doing lsusb or dmesg to see where it might be mounting to?
[20:34] <brandonban6> !cloning
[20:35] <ninom> glitsj16 thanks
[20:35] <brandonban6> !sbackup
[20:35] <brutus> glitsj16, hmm...i tried changing desktop effects...no luck...
[20:36] <brutus> glitsj16, btw I'm running Gutsy ubuntu so it might not be the latest version of X
[20:36] <rampage73> this is all i get
[20:36] <rampage73> Mar  6 14:35:53 it75-laptop kernel: [ 1929.708000] usb 2-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 6
[20:36] <rampage73> Mar  6 14:35:54 it75-laptop kernel: [ 1929.932000] usb 2-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
[20:36] <Guest71750> Can anyone help with some scripting? I have a for loop: for part in /dev/[hs]d[a-z][0-9]; do; <run partimage>; done.  This rolls through all the partitions on the computer and backs them up with partimage. I'd like to include the partition name in the image filenames (ie "sda1") but right now $part has /dev/sda1. Is there a way to populate a variable with only the "sda1" part of the $part...
[20:36] <Guest71750> ...variable?
[20:36] <Scunizi> rampage73: looks like it's on hcd
[20:37] <xun911> hi, my laptop's default brightness is always very dim when it boots or wakes up until I manually change it. how can I change the default brightness on it?
[20:37] <Scunizi> rampage73: oops. that's not the address
[20:37] <glitsj16> brutus: okay, you can move your backup copy of xorg.conf back to it's original state first perhaps --> sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf ... so i get some time to think what to try next :)
[20:37] <rampage73> Scunizi, you had me there for a minute i was looking for a /dev/hcd
[20:37] <rampage73> i did not have one of course
[20:38] <Vlet> How could I go about running a process via screen as my user automatically on system boot?
[20:39] <CentHOGG> hi, I cannot get mdadm to boot "mdadm: no devices found in conf"
[20:39] <jrib> Vlet: use su
[20:39] <rampage73> Scunizi, this is the output of lsusb Bus 002 Device 007: ID 040a:05ba Kodak Co.
[20:39] <jrib> Vlet: and /etc/rc.local
[20:39] <brutus> glitsj16, done... :)...btw "screens and graphics" in System->Administration shows that I'm using the vesa driver whereas I should be using nvidia-glx-new....how do I fix this?
[20:39] <Drknezz> brutus, install the driver yourself then
[20:39] <Vlet> jrib: ahh yeah, thankya!
[20:39] <glitsj16> brutus: aha, you will need to install that driver if you haven't
[20:39] <brutus> Drknezz, I already have installed nvidia-glx-new
[20:40] <Scunizi> rampage73: yea.. it would have been /dev/hdc actually if it was correct.. did you look at dmesg?
[20:40] <Drknezz> brutus, run "sudo nvidia-xconfig"
[20:40] <brutus> glitsj16, , I already have installed nvidia-glx-new
[20:41] <brutus> Drknezz, I tried that too...but it screws up bigtime and the next tiem I reboot I can't increase resolution more than 800*600
[20:41] <glitsj16> brutus: odd though, i thought your original paste of xorg.conf mentioned nvidia already instead of vesa, re-checking that
[20:41] <rampage73> Scunizi, that is where i got this **[ 2234.752000] usb 2-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 8
[20:41] <rampage73> [ 2235.036000] usb 2-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
[20:42] <brutus> glitsj16, that's what I've been breaking my head over :)
[20:42] <joinAD> Anybody here familiar with joining Ubuntu machines to Active Directory domains?
[20:42] <glitsj16> brutus: according to your paste (line 56) the driver is already set to nvidia indeed, at a loss here sorry
[20:42] <Drknezz> brutus, weird
[20:43] <Drknezz> !x
[20:43] <brutus> glitsj16, probably the BusID is wrong? when i do lscpi it shows busID as 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GeForce 8600M GS (rev a1)
[20:44] <xTheGoat121x> Anyone in here familiar with Conky?
[20:44] <brutus> Drknezz, why isn't my system responding to the xorg.conf file ?
[20:44] <_VIM_> !anyone | xTheGoat121x
[20:44] <macman> i have a nVidia Corporation G71GL [Quadro FX 3500] in a laptop and it is killing my battery .. is there something i can configure in the kernal or do to keep my battery life up ?
[20:44] <Drknezz> brutus, how?=
[20:45] <Scunizi> rampage73: I just plugged in a usb stick to look at what came up.  After the lines you mentioned (mine are a bit different) once the device has settled I get a lot of "sd" lines and eventually it shows sdd1.. try a sudo fdisk -l in terminal
[20:45] <brutus> Drknezz, well in xorg.conf I'm using nvidia driver but in "screens and graphics" it says vesa....
[20:45] <Drknezz> macman, go system menu, there should be a nvidia app
[20:45] <jrib> brutus: what does /var/log/Xorg.0.log tell you?
[20:45] <glitsj16> brutus: BusID was set to "PCI:1:0:0" according to the paste (line 57) ...
[20:45] <Drknezz> : macman, that can help you activate powermizer
[20:46] <Drknezz> brutus, maybe you have the wrong driver
[20:46] <xTheGoat121x> It looks like Ubuntu is drawing a shadow around my Conky, and I'd prefer it didn't.  It never did until I upgraded to Intrepid.
[20:46] <brutus> jrib Drknezz Here's my xorg.conf btw: http://pastebin.com/m1d0a3278
[20:46] <Drknezz> brutus, nvidia divides cards into "legacy" and "new"
[20:46] <macman> i don't see it Drknezz
[20:46] <Drknezz> macman, have you installed the nvidia drivers?
[20:46] <macman> Drknezz, do you want me to go thardware drivers ?
[20:47] <macman> Drknezz, i don't know .. i installed ubuntu .. lol i can see everything
[20:47] <Drknezz> macman, then install nvidia drivers...
[20:47] <keith_> Does Linux have any decent video editors?
[20:47] <Drknezz> macman, type "gksu jockey-gtk"
[20:47] <Drknezz> brutus, try typing "gksu jockey-gtk"
[20:47] <macman> Drknezz, what is that ?
[20:47] <brutus> Drknezz, I have the 8600GS so I installed nvidia-glx-new
[20:47] <glitsj16> brutus: did you install nvidia driver from synaptic or from nvidia's website ?
[20:47] <brutus> glitsj16, synaptic..
[20:48] <_VIM_> xTheGoat121x:  change 'own_window_type normal' to 'own_window_type override' in .conkyrc
[20:48] <Drknezz> macman, it will help you installing nvidia drivers
[20:48] <mestopholeese_> Keith: I use avidemux
[20:48] <macman> gsku command not found
[20:48] <macman> do i apt-get it ?
[20:48] <_VIM_> its' gksudo or gksu
[20:48] <brutus> Drknezz, I ran jockey...nothing happenend...what next?
[20:48] <Drknezz> macman: , sorry, typo, it is gksu
[20:48] <rampage73> Scunizi, all it lists after waiting 2 minutes is my hard drive /dev/sda
[20:49] <Drknezz> brutus, srsly?, that should check if you have all drivers
[20:49] <xTheGoat121x> _VIM_, thanks, that did it.
[20:49] <leleobhz> ive created a encrypted disk image with ubuntu hardy some time ago, and now with intrepid i cant mount it
[20:49] <_VIM_> :)
[20:49] <leleobhz> someone know how can i access my disk?
[20:49] <keith_> mestopholeese_: That one seems like it is decent (looked at it briefly) but my videos are ogv. I am working on converting them now though.
[20:49] <Fudge> hi, when ever i leave my ubuntu over night i come back in the morning and the computer has locked up. using 810. anyone know why this could be? I dont believe it is hardware.
[20:49] <silver_swords> is there another channel for bluetooth in ubuntu?
[20:49] <Scunizi> rampage73: is the camera plugged into a hub? if so try plugging it directly
[20:49] <brutus> jrib, Here's the log file: http://pastebin.com/m5e023acf
[20:50] <rampage73> Scunizi, no plugged into laptop directly on a known good usb port
[20:50] <macman> Drknezz, so after i do that i click on all the nvidia stuff and click on activate ?
[20:50] <hollywoodb> Fudge: is it actually locked up, or is it running but the display will not come back on?
[20:50] <brutus> Drknezz, I know I have nvidia-glx-new installed because when I try to apt-get it again it says its already installed
[20:50] <Drknezz> macman, not all, the highest number
[20:50] <Scunizi> rampage73: weird.... and can you pull the pics off the camera?
[20:50] <Fudge> hollywoodb i beleive its locked up, i cant logout of the desktop or anything
[20:51] <rampage73> this is frustrating i know the solution is right there in front of me somehow (laughing at me most likely)
[20:51] <Drknezz> brutus, weird, X loads up nvidia module, but uses vesa instead
[20:51] <hollywoodb> Fudge: so the screen isn't black?  it's just sitting at the desktop, frozen?
[20:51]  * dronix is back (gone 07:22:40)
[20:51] <brandonban6> can you use fdisk to change an HDD label?
[20:51] <Fudge> yes
[20:51]  * dronix is away: I'm busy
[20:51] <rampage73> Scunizi, the ones that show up yes ubuntu recognizes them immediately i am trying to recover the ones that were deleted
[20:51] <rwparris2> is there an analog to C:\program files in ubuntu?  I'm trying to find where meld was installed to so I can point rapidsvn at it
[20:51] <Drknezz> brutus, type "dmesg >> test.txt" on a console and pastebin the contents of test.txt
[20:51] <_VIM_> !away > dronix
[20:51] <Pici> !away > dronix
[20:52] <Pici> oops
[20:52] <macman> Drknezz, that will help me with the battery ?
[20:52] <rampage73> very weird
[20:52] <brutus> Drknezz, can you tell anything from the Xorg log file? http://pastebin.com/m5e023acf
[20:52] <Scunizi> rampage73: ah.. missed that part.. does gparted see the camera?
[20:52] <The-Kernel> How do I remove the GUI and all that is linked to ubunt-desktop like firefox, thunderbird and all those apps?
[20:52] <Drknezz> rwparris2: it could have been installed somewhere in /usr
[20:52] <hollywoodb> Fudge: well, you can look at /var/log/messages to see if anything happened overnight, and look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old to see if it was X that locked up.
[20:52] <dronix> I see sorry thank you
[20:52] <rampage73> Scunizi, i will check hang on
[20:52] <Drknezz> macman, powermizer underclocks your gpu to save battery
[20:52] <hollywoodb> Fudge: but it may be hard to figure out what's going on if it is just locking up like that when you're not using it
[20:52] <Fudge> ok hollywoodb, if it was just X wouldnt control alt backspace work still?
[20:52] <brutus> Drknezz, I should dmesg after typing the jockey command?
[20:52] <Scunizi> The-Kernel: sounds like you want server
[20:53] <Drknezz> brutus, i saw it, X loads up nvidia module, but it uses vesa instead, weird
[20:53] <rwparris2> Drknezz, is there a way to search?
[20:53] <Fudge> i want to get a new hard drive so i can just reinstall and hope its ok
[20:53] <hollywoodb> Fudge: maybe, maybe not... X can do a pretty hard lock where the system can appear to be frozen but using SSH to log into the machine and do a proper shutdown still works
[20:53] <Drknezz> brutus, dont worry bout jockey
[20:53] <macman> Drknezz, so install powermizer
[20:53] <MalbeC> taianee Oii meu amotr
[20:53] <Drknezz> macman, powermizer comes with the nvidia driver
[20:53] <Scunizi> Fudge: hollywoodb have you tried ctrl+alt+F3 to get to a tty?
[20:53] <macman> oh
[20:53] <nullstring> so, my intel graphics is like.. clipping or osmething.. IDK how to describe it..
[20:53] <Fudge> ah hollywoodb thats an idea for next time. another problem i couldnt figure out was in nauthtiless in list view it woudl close
[20:53] <taianee> MalbeC oiiiiiiiii coraçaooooo
[20:53] <macman> so after i install reboot and do it
[20:53] <macman> ok
[20:54] <macman> brb
[20:54] <nullstring> anyeone have any idea how to fix it?
[20:54] <MalbeC> taianee muito gringo aquiii!!
[20:54] <taianee> td bomm ::?
[20:54] <glitsj16> brutus: (EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found) ... looks bizar
[20:54] <macman> thanks a lot Drknezz
[20:54] <Drknezz> rwparris2, try going into /usr with nautilus and searching for it
[20:54] <rampage73> Scunizi, no gparted sees exactly what fdisk sees my laptop hard drive all /dev/sda
[20:54] <nullstring> it didn't do it in an older version of ubuntu
[20:54] <Drknezz> macman, np
[20:54] <Drknezz> glitsj16: : agreed
[20:54] <taianee> MalbeC sera q so nois dois de brasilieros aki ?
[20:54] <hollywoodb> Fudge: I'm not very familiar with nautilus, actually
[20:54] <Fudge> is 904 in eta yet?
[20:54] <MalbeC> taianee so nos aqui e uma rede gringa da alemanha eu achoo
[20:54] <Fudge> 904 sorry
[20:54] <MalbeC> rsrsrs
[20:55] <_VIM_> English please
[20:55] <taianee> xcoimbra flamenguistaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[20:55] <Drknezz> brutus, try changing "nvidia" for "nv" in xorg.conf, and pressing Ctrl+Alt+Bckspc, then come back here
[20:55] <joinAD> IS THERE A UBUNTU DEV CHANNEL?
[20:55] <Scunizi> rampage73: so the question is how does the computer recognize and mount a device allowing access only though fspot or gthumb but hides the mount point from the system... arg.. anyone?
[20:55] <taianee> ate tu aki xcoimbra
[20:55] <_VIM_> joinAD:  #Ubuntu-devel
[20:55] <brutus> glitsj16, Drknezz btw glxgears gives the error: Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[20:55] <Pici> !br | taianee
[20:55] <brutus> Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual
[20:55] <Scunizi> joinAD: #ubuntu-dev
[20:55] <mestopholeese_> keith: Sorry, no theora video editing yet...
[20:56] <MalbeC> xcoimbra e aiii rapa aqui e super lotado de gringoO
[20:56] <MalbeC> RSRSRS
[20:56] <finaltune> hi
[20:56] <_VIM_> Scunizi: i thought it was devel?
[20:56] <jpds> !en | MalbeC
[20:56] <Drknezz> brutus, that's not odd on your situation
[20:56] <pianist> hallo
[20:56] <glitsj16> brutus: yep, your Xorg.0.log mentioned glx not being enabled so that makes sense
[20:56] <finaltune> i have a question
[20:56] <Scunizi> _VIM_: could be .. he/she was shouting and I was frazzled :)
[20:56] <_VIM_> Oh it forwards to devel
[20:56] <_VIM_> :)
[20:56] <rampage73> Scunizi, sounds like the question to me
[20:56] <finaltune> what is the best email provider?
[20:56] <MalbeC> ubottu no compreendo
[20:56] <MalbeC> huahuaha
[20:56] <xcoimbra> malbec so bot
[20:56] <rampage73> wish i had the answer
[20:56] <jpds> !pt | MalbeC
[20:57] <macman> Drknezz, .. hey im back .. so im in the nvidi X server settings .. what options should i look at ?
[20:57] <Scunizi> rampage73: hopefully someone will pick up on it. :(
[20:57] <xcoimbra> taianee so bot
[20:57] <quibbler> brandonban6: no you use gparted
[20:57] <Drknezz> macman, yes, try to look at each tab, and look for "powermizer"
[20:57] <finaltune> can you please tell me what is the best email provider?
[20:57] <NativeAngels> whats the command to delete a file
[20:57] <taianee> xcoimbra to vendo isso
[20:57] <taianee> kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
[20:57] <MalbeC> xcoimbra nao aqui e tudo gente mesmoo nao tem bot aquiii
[20:57] <rampage73> Scunizi, i do appreciate your time in helping me thought i was losing my mind
[20:57] <taianee> kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
[20:57] <Drknezz> BRB!!!!
[20:57] <macman> Drknezz, i found powermizer .. there is no option to uncheck
[20:57] <_VIM_> !best | finaltune
[20:57] <xcoimbra> malbec bot e clone
[20:57] <guntbert> !best | finaltune
[20:57] <finaltune> can you please tell me what is the best email provider?
[20:57] <brutus> Drknezz, here's the dmesg output: http://pastebin.com/m54f5202
[20:57] <Scunizi> To all great puzzle solvers... so the question is how does the computer recognize and mount a device allowing access only though fspot or gthumb but hides the mount point from the system?
[20:57] <xcoimbra> malbec da uma olhda nos clone
[20:57] <xcoimbra> fih
[20:58] <finaltune> ...
[20:58] <webby> hello, I am using the proprietary ATI drivers and for some reason on my Radeon 2400 pro I don't get the option to enable the second monitor
[20:58] <crdlb> brutus: what model GPU do you have?
[20:58] <webby> anyone have an idea?
[20:58] <brutus> crdlb, nvidia 8600GS
[20:58] <crdlb> brutus: and this is hardy? (8.04)?
[20:58] <xHDL> Hello! all
[20:58] <Scunizi> rampage73: no problem.. I'd sure like to know the answer as well..
[20:58] <webby> by proprietary i mean the FGLRX graphics drivers
[20:58] <MalbeC> xcoimbra aqui da pra alugar servidor pra linkar la na rede
[20:58] <brutus> crdlb, no, gutsy 7.10
[20:59] <xHDL> I have a question....
[20:59] <Scunizi> rampage73: might also log into ##linux and ask there
[20:59] <rampage73> if i find it i will let you know
[20:59] <Scunizi> rampage73: I'm in there now and will post the question
[20:59] <xcoimbra> malbec asim ate meu # fika grande
[20:59] <guntbert> !ask | xHDL
[20:59] <rampage73> Scunizi, i will try that thanks
[20:59] <rampage73> kewl thanks
[20:59] <xcoimbra> ?hois webby
[20:59] <xHDL> how can I create a primary partition in ubuntu from a extended one without lost data is it possible?
[20:59] <quibbler> !es | xcoimbra
[20:59] <crdlb> brutus: I _think_ that driver is too old; let me check for sure
[20:59] <webby> xcoimbra: I love you
[21:00] <xcoimbra> webby my eggs
[21:00] <tux___> test
[21:00] <xcoimbra> webby by brazil
[21:00] <keith_> What would we do without ubottu? :p
[21:00] <guntbert> tux___: please test elsewhere :)
[21:00] <_VIM_> keith_: or google
[21:00] <brandonban6> quibbler, thanks, I'll give gparted a try. I used e2label and it didn't seem to work for my external HDD label (which is ext3).
[21:00] <The-Kernel> Scunizi: Yes, CLI only...what's the remove command?
[21:01] <Supersaiyan_IV> keith_, seek water at another place in the desert, yet still wouldn't find any
[21:01] <webby> Anyone? FGLRX not showing secondary monitor? Ideas?
[21:01] <brutus> crdlb, I'll brb after restarting Xserver
[21:01] <quibbler> brandonban6: you may have to first unmount the disk
[21:01] <romeo> c.ircworld.org
[21:01] <crdlb> brutus: I was right
[21:01] <strombom> how can i get the version number of an installed package? in this case libapache2-mod-auth-mysql
[21:02] <keith_> !love
[21:02] <FrozenFire[work]> Is there a well-supported way to do remote desktop over an SSH connection between two Ubuntu systems?
[21:02] <guntbert> xHDL: I'm not sure what you need, you have your data in an extended partition and want to move them where?
[21:02] <crdlb> strombom: apt-get policy
[21:02] <crdlb> strombom: err, apt-cache policy that is
[21:02] <brandonban6> quibbler, I did unmount it, still no go. It was an NTFS drive, I used FDisk to partion/format it, and the mkfs.ext3 to create the file system and it works...........just the label is all screwy. I'll mess with gparted, may even re-format and see if I can get that going.
[21:03] <_VIM_> FrozenFire[work]: what do you mean by "well-supported"?
[21:03] <LLStarks|Lazy> I have just successfully made Hofstra more Linux friendly.
[21:03] <FrozenFire[work]> _VIM_: Simple to do, requiring very little tinkering. I've considered X forwarding, but that can be troublesome, iirc.
[21:04] <xHDL> gnutbert, I lost my master HDD now I have the second with just 1 extended partition this part. has 3 logical partition I want to keep 2 of them and make the first part. a new primary partition is it possible?
[21:04] <_VIM_> FrozenFire[work]: maybe tunneling VNC then
[21:04] <Drknezz> Hi!
[21:04] <glitsj16> gotta go, wish brutus all the best .. enjoy the weekend people
[21:04] <Drknezz> Im back!
[21:04] <Drknezz> brutus, how you going?
[21:04] <Scunizi> rampage73: did you catch all that on ##linux?
[21:04] <guntbert> LLStarks|Lazy: do you need a full desktop on the remote machine or will single applications be sufficient?
[21:05] <LLStarks|Lazy> what?
[21:05] <strombom> crdlb: thanks
[21:05] <rampage73> Scunizi, yes downloading it now will let you know if it works
[21:05] <guntbert> LLStarks|Lazy: sorry, wrong nick :)
[21:05] <rampage73> thanks
[21:05] <Scunizi> rampage73: cool
[21:05] <guntbert> FrozenFire[work]:  do you need a full desktop on the remote machine or will single applications be sufficient?
[21:05] <FrozenFire[work]> guntbert: Preferably full desktop
[21:05] <Drknezz> macman, you still there?
[21:05] <brutus> crdlb, could you find out the problem?
[21:06] <balleyne> I'm getting an odd error when opening PDFs in nautilus: the filename $filename.pdf indicates that this file is of type "pdf document." The contents of the file indicate that the file is of type "PDF document"...  If I change the extension from .pdf to .PDF the error goes away. Happens with all .pdf files. Seems like a settings issue with capital / lower case file types... anyone know how to fix this?
[21:06] <crdlb> brutus: yes
[21:06] <FrozenFire[work]> In fact, if I could use my existing session, that would be perfect.
[21:06] <crdlb> brutus: you need at least 173.14.12, you have 100.14.19 :/
[21:06] <Drknezz> balleyne, left click go to "Open with.." and choose your fav pdf app, with a ".pdf" file
[21:06] <brutus> Drknezz, here's what happened: I changed nvidia to nv and rebooted the system- ubuntu started on low graphics mode and now i'm stuck on 800*600 and cannot icnrease
[21:07] <macman> Drknezz, .. ubuntu keeps saying that i'm using hardware that isn't recgonized .. this is after i installed nvidia
[21:07] <macman> should i install each one and try ?
[21:07] <Drknezz> macman, yes
[21:07] <macman> ok
[21:07] <macman> brb
[21:07] <Dr_willis> the !nvidia wiki page i thoughth had a link to what drivers are for what cards.
[21:07] <crdlb> brutus: which is only available in intrepid
[21:07] <brutus> crdlb, you suggest I download this one from the nvidia site?
[21:07] <Drknezz> brutus, weird, type vesa instead of nvidia and try again
[21:07] <crdlb> brutus: unless you install it from nvidia.com which can break very badly
[21:07] <enzotib> !freenx | FrozenFire[work]
[21:07] <guntbert> FrozenFire[work]: single apps is easy, lets start with that: you invoke your ssh-session with ssh  -X <login>@<remotemachine>, that will forward any X Client to your machine
[21:08] <Drknezz> crdlb, intrepid broke compat with that installer, Xen kernel?
[21:08] <FrozenFire[work]> guntbert: Yeah, I know how to do X forwarding. Doesn't seem to meet my needs.
[21:08] <brutus> Drknezz, crdlb, the whole problem started when I tried to install the 180 version driver from the nvidia site; before that the graphics were working like a charm with the current driver (nvidia-glx-new)
[21:08] <crdlb> Drknezz: but it comes with -173, -177, and -180 (in updates), so he'd be covered
[21:09] <crdlb> brutus: what does 'lspci | grep -i vga' say?
[21:09] <Drknezz> brutus, uninstall the nvidia one, with the nvidia installer, with the -u argument, and re.install nvidia-glx-new
[21:09] <crdlb> the 8600 GS is only recently supported, but similarly named cards have been supported much longer
[21:09] <rampage73> Scunizi, i cannot get past configure this is what it says
[21:09] <rampage73> No package 'fuse' found
[21:09] <rampage73> No package 'mad' found
[21:09] <rampage73> No package 'id3tag' found
[21:09] <rampage73> No package 'libmtp' found
[21:09] <FloodBot3> rampage73: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:09] <guntbert> FrozenFire[work]: ok, then have a look at enzotib's tipp
[21:09] <brutus> crdlb, 19:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GeForce 8600M GS (rev a1)
[21:09] <Shootdown> balleyne: what properties is shown with left click -> properties ?
[21:09] <FrozenFire[work]> guntbert: Yeah, his looks promising. I'll have to check that out when I get home
[21:09] <rampage73> sorry FloodBot1
[21:09] <crdlb> brutus: ah, that's different :)
[21:09] <Dr_willis> rampage73:  install the various WHATEVER-dev packages for things if you are compilimng from source.
[21:10] <balleyne> Drknezz: tried that, open with works fine, but evince is already set as the default. A straight 'open' still gives the error. =\
[21:10] <Scunizi> rampage73: install mtpfs
[21:10] <keith_> Why doesn't ubottu also monitor flooding?
[21:10] <MC-Linus> raingell.com
[21:10] <rampage73> Scunizi, apt-get?
[21:10] <Dr_willis> keith_:  itz not got op status :)
[21:10] <Drknezz> balleyne, weird....
[21:10] <enzotib> FrozenFire[work], I use it usually even from home and is very impressive for speed
[21:10] <macman> Drknezz, none of the hight nvidia card / drivers work .. should i do the lowest one ?
[21:10] <strombom> where can i get this file? version 4.3.9-5 is in the ubuntu source. libapache2-mod-auth-mysql_4.3.9-5_i386.deb
[21:10] <strombom> -4
[21:10] <crdlb> brutus: that _is_ supported by 7.10's nvidia-glx-new (silly nvidia)
[21:10] <keith_> Dr_willis: oh... why not? :-p
[21:11] <Drknezz> macman, maybe...
[21:11] <rampage73> Scunizi, i am trying to install that it wants me to run ./configure make make install then i get those errors mentioned above
[21:11] <Scunizi> rampage73: that's what I had to use because Snyaptic was hic-uping
[21:11] <Dr_willis> keith_:  its not trusted i imagine. :)
[21:11] <balleyne> Drknezz, indeed... not my machine either, it's a laptop in the office. no idea how this change happened on the users machine, just started a few days ago *sigh*
[21:11] <Drknezz> Weird things are happening with intrepid
[21:11] <brutus> crdlb, (blink blink)
[21:11] <keith_> Dr_willis: Well, that's understandable. Thanks. :-D
[21:11] <Scunizi> rampage73: sudo apt-get install mtpfs
[21:11] <Drknezz> balleyne, alternate program that did the same thing?
[21:11] <Shootdown> balleyne: change default pdf editor
[21:11] <macman> Drknezz, if non of these work from the gsku thing what do i do next ?
[21:11] <webby> Sorry for the repeat, I'm using FGLRX ATi drivers with a 2400 PRO and can't seem to get it to show the secondary monitor to do "multimon" (large resolution)
[21:11] <crdlb> brutus: the 8600M GS is supported, the 8600 GS is not
[21:11] <webby> Any ideas?
[21:12] <_VIM_> enzotib: i wish i could get freenx working, Ive read a lot about it, but when I try to log on i get errors (had a horrible time even installing freenx, seems its not in the repos, so I had to do a lot of hand waving and lever pulling to get it installed sooo I went back to using SSH tunnel + VNC :(
[21:12] <Drknezz> macman, idk, i'd suggest compiling a new kernel and installing the official nvidia driver, but it is quite complex
[21:12] <Dr_willis> I really have to wonder what nvidia is doing with their chipsets and naming/drivers to make things like that happen crdlb
[21:12] <brutus> crdlb, eh? but graphics were working before I tried installing 180 driver from the nvidia site...
[21:12] <crdlb> brutus: yeah, you've made a bit of a mess now :/
[21:12] <Drknezz> brutusm UNINSTALL nvidia drivers, then re-install them with apt-get
[21:12] <Drknezz> they're conflicting
[21:12] <Dr_willis> brutus:  you could try 'startx' from a terminal and see if any error messages show what the issue is. could be somtjhing as simple as a xorg.conf issue
[21:12] <brutus> Drknezz, I have already uninstalld this driver
[21:13] <crdlb> brutus: with running sh NVIDIA-whatever --uninstall ?
[21:13] <Scunizi> rampage73: I installed it but when I tried to mount my troublesome mp3 player it still didn't recognize it.
[21:13] <alanbshepard70> Why in the bleep can't I connect to my router using WPA? WEP and open networks are fine but I can't get WPA to work. I don't want to have to use WEP, it's horribly broken as you all know.
[21:13] <Drknezz> brutus, try uninstalling it like crdlb said
[21:13] <brutus> Drknezz, when I try to run sh NVIDIAblahblah.run --uinstall it says there's 'no nvidia driver currently installed'
[21:13] <brutus> crdlb,
[21:13] <dedal> can anyone help with microphone on ubuntu 8.10.With ubuntu 8.04 no problem everything work
[21:14] <rampage73> Dr_willis, thank you for the tip that helped alot
[21:14] <Drknezz> brutus, try uninstalling with apt-get + the purge option
[21:14] <LLStarks|Lazy> what's a good way to save terminal output?
[21:14] <Drknezz> brutus "sudo apt-get remove nvidia* --purge"
[21:14] <brutus> Dr_willis, "Fatal server error: Server is already active for display )"
[21:14] <Drknezz> LLStarks|Lazy: : command + >> file
[21:14] <blue-frog> LLStarks|Lazy: direct your command to a files:  ls > file
[21:14] <dedal> lspci
[21:14] <dedal> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02)
[21:15] <Drknezz> LLStarks|Lazy: : it's called a "pipe", for example, "ls >> file
[21:15] <mezy> does anyone know anything about bt4?
[21:15] <sebsebseb>  
[21:15] <Dr_willis> brutus:  kill off the allready run X display. :) by stopping the gdm service first.
[21:15] <brutus> Drknezz, the * would remove my glx too...
[21:15] <Drknezz> "ls >> file-listing.txt"
[21:15] <Scunizi> rampage73: sorry but I've got to run.. I hope you figure it out.
[21:15] <Drknezz> brutus, dont worry
[21:15] <rampage73> thanks Scunizi
[21:15] <crdlb> brutus: yes, that's the point
[21:15] <eseven73> how come the up arrow doesn't show my last line that I typed in Konversation? In other clients I can hit up arrow and get my last thing I typed :/
[21:16] <LLStarks|Lazy> no.
[21:16] <unop> Drknezz, that's not a pipe .. that's a redirection.
[21:16] <Drknezz> unop, oops
[21:16] <LLStarks|Lazy>  i want to run a command and CAPTURE EVERYTHING
[21:16] <Drknezz> ;)
[21:16] <brutus> Dr_willis, how do i kill it off? killall xserver?
[21:16] <crdlb> LLStarks|Lazy: from where exactly?
[21:16] <unop> LLStarks|Lazy,  command &> file
[21:16] <LLStarks|Lazy> from gnome-terminal
[21:16] <Dr_willis> brutus:  stop the GDM service
[21:16] <Drknezz> LLStarks|Lazy: >> redirects whole output, but not errors
[21:16] <crdlb> Dr_willis: err, what are you having him do exactly?
[21:16] <LLStarks|Lazy> no it doesn't
[21:16] <rampage73> Dr_willis, thanks again not sure if you can help out or not i did install all the package-dev and ./configure ran but now make has an error i will post in pastebin and be right back
[21:16] <rabbit_ubuntu> Hey guys
[21:16] <enzotib> _VIM_, freenx server is in a ppa.launchpad repo, as a client I use che original nomachine implementation
[21:17] <LLStarks|Lazy> it cuts off 90% of the output
[21:17] <brutus> Drknezz, woah that removes 102MB including source, restricted modules, kernel...should I really do it?
[21:17] <sebsebseb> rabbit_ubuntu: hi
[21:17] <guntbert> !who LLStarks|Lazy
[21:17] <rabbit_ubuntu> I have a problem , Vbox isnt picking up my usb device
[21:17] <Drknezz> brutus, again, do not worry
[21:17] <guntbert> !who | LLStarks|Lazy
[21:17] <Dr_willis> crdlb:  trying to teach him how to trouble shoot x error messages by using 'startx' but it seems he does have X going.. sio im not sure what the actual problem is now. :)
[21:17] <crdlb> brutus: you really only need to remove nvidia-glx-new
[21:17] <LLStarks|Lazy> sudo python setup.py install --prefix /usr ls >> log.txt
[21:17] <rabbit_ubuntu> sebsebseb: Can you assist?
[21:17] <LLStarks|Lazy> sudo python setup.py install --prefix /usr  >> log.txt
[21:17] <sebsebseb> rabbit_ubuntu: did you get the one from repo?  OSE edition?  that does not have USB suppourt
[21:17] <Drknezz> rabbit_ubuntu: , there are tuts out there to make VBox do that, google a bit
[21:17] <crdlb> Dr_willis: ah, he's in vesa or nv now :)
[21:17] <_kw> is there any info about when kubuntu will have kde 4.2?
[21:17] <LLStarks|Lazy> that should capture everything, but it doesn't.
[21:17] <unop> LLStarks|Lazy,  command >> file 2>&1
[21:17] <sebsebseb> rabbit_ubuntu: get the binary from http://www.virtualbox.org  and why are you called rabbit_ubuntu
[21:18] <Dr_willis> crdlb:  time to teach him how to use IRSSI from the console also. :)
[21:18] <rabbit_ubuntu> I have the non free one
[21:18] <rabbit_ubuntu> Sun micro
[21:18] <LLStarks|Lazy> unop
[21:18] <LLStarks|Lazy> still doesn't get everything
[21:18] <rabbit_ubuntu> sebsebseb: So it has USB support
[21:18] <_VIM_> enzotib: Ok does the remote machine have to not be loggin in already? Cause it's already loggin in... THinking this is the problem, there must be a way around it
[21:18] <LLStarks|Lazy> it's a command that scrolls the screen
[21:18] <LLStarks|Lazy> and only the bottom is saved
[21:18] <sebsebseb> rabbit_ubuntu:   if you got the non OSE one,  enable it in the settings for the VM
[21:19] <rabbit_ubuntu> I did that as well
[21:19] <blue-frog> Drknezz: >> appends the stdout to a file
[21:19] <rabbit_ubuntu> sebsebseb: And when I plug my device in
[21:19] <unop> LLStarks|Lazy, that should capture what's sent to STDOUT and STDERR .. if the command sends output elsewhere, you'll need to find out what file descriptor it uses and redirect that too.
[21:19] <rabbit_ubuntu> sebsebseb: Nothin happens
[21:19] <rabbit_ubuntu> sebsebseb: in vb that is
[21:19] <Drknezz> blue-frog: : -.-
[21:19] <enzotib> _VIM_, freenx-server swapn a brand new gnome-sessione, indipendently from who is logged on the server machine
[21:19] <sebsebseb> rabbit_ubuntu: some settings for  the vm can be changed when it's running as well
[21:19] <enzotib> s/swapn/spawn/
[21:20] <_VIM_> hmmm
[21:20] <rabbit_ubuntu> sebsebseb: For instanec?
[21:20] <sebsebseb> rabbit_ubuntu: you might have to do that for certain USB devices
[21:20] <quibbler> rabbit_ubuntu: have a look here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=393582
[21:20] <unop> LLStarks|Lazy, do you see any output when you do this?   command >> /dev/null 2>&1
[21:20] <_VIM_> enzotib: ok well maybe its  a port blockage or something then, thanks for the help :)
[21:20] <gislan> I've got machine with corrupted mysql files and configs. How can I reinstall mysql-server to recreate all required files (apt-get install --reinstall doesn't recreate /var/lib/mysql/* or /etc/mysql/debian.cnf files)?
[21:21] <balleyne> Drknezz: figured it out, turns out there was a Override.xml file in ~/.local/share/mime/packages that messed up the mime-type database... removed that and ran update-mime-database ~/.local/share/mime and now it's working :) odd though... lol
[21:21] <LLStarks|Lazy> unop, let me try the original command again.
[21:21] <Drknezz> balleyne: , great
[21:21] <blue-frog> rabbityou have enabled the usb controller, did you had a usb device then?
[21:21] <unop> gislan, move /etc/mysql and /var/lib/mysql out of the way
[21:22] <blue-frog> rabbit_ubuntu: you enabled the usb controller but did you add a usb device then?
[21:22] <brutus> Dr_willis, I restarted gdm but the comp just sent me into tty1 with the login screen- so I rebooted normally and am back to 800*600 :(
[21:22] <unop> gislan, those two directories contain the configuration files and data -- which packages will NOT overwrite for good reasons
[21:22] <guntbert> rabbit_ubuntu: you could ask in #vbox too
[21:22] <Dr_willis> brutus:  the IDEA is to Not auto-start X. but to enable the nvidia drivers and use 'startx' from a console to SEE the X error messages.
[21:22] <enzotib> _VIM_, good luck
[21:22] <sebsebseb> guntbert: yeah I was going to tell him about #vbox
[21:22] <Dr_willis> brutus:  that way you can get a clue as to why X  is having issues with the n vidia drivers.
[21:23] <guntbert> sebsebseb: :)
[21:23] <Dr_willis> brutus:  and yes.. killing GDM will kill off X.  :)
[21:23] <rabbit_ubuntu> sebsebseb:  Think I will
[21:23] <crdlb> Dr_willis: I'm 99% sure it's a version mismatch
[21:23] <webby> stupid mibbit
[21:23] <rabbit_ubuntu> sebsebseb: Thanks
[21:23] <Dr_willis> crdlb:  yep very likely.
[21:23] <crdlb> Dr_willis: since he installed the 180 driver from nvidia.com
[21:23] <sebsebseb> rabbit_ubuntu: yep that channel, but also the manual from their website is good
[21:24] <orudie> if i installed package with dpkg , can i remove it with apt-get purge ?
[21:24] <rampage73> Dr_willis, http://paste.ubuntu.com/127453/
[21:24] <sebsebseb> yes
[21:24] <unop> orudie, yes
[21:25] <crdlb> Dr_willis: and I was right, by looking at the dmesg output, it's loading the 71.85 kernel module :/
[21:25] <unop> orudie, apt-get uses dpkg anyway
[21:25] <gislan> unop: that's the problem, I want apt/dpkg to recrate them. I've removed them and did apt-get install --reinstall mysql-server mysql-common and got /etc/mysql dir back, but without debian.cnf or my.cnf and still not /var/lib/mysql
[21:25] <gislan> unop: and mysql server doesn't start
[21:25] <rampage73> Dr_willis, thanks i have to run and i will try to get on later
[21:25] <unop> gislan, did you purge mysql-common before reinstalling it?
[21:25] <Supersaiyan_IV> Wait Who has nvidia 180 version problems?
[21:26] <regeya> A
[21:26] <gislan> unop: I think I've already tried that, but I'll try again
[21:26] <brutus> Dr_willis, crdlb : sorry, this is so puzzling- restricted drivers manager says 'Nvidia latest graphics driver(new cards)' enabled and in use- but screens and graphics shows the driver as vesa
[21:27] <Dr_willis> brutus:  if the xorg.conf is set to use vesa.. then thats what it will be using.
[21:27] <Dr_willis> brutus:   check the xorg.conf file and see what Driver its set to use.
[21:27] <Supersaiyan_IV> brutus, enable the IgnoreABI flag in xorg.conf
[21:27] <unop> gislan, generally,  you shouldn't have to worry much about /var/lib/mysql .. what matters is under /etc/mysql  .. and you can use  dpkg-reconfigure mysql-common  to regenerate the config file(s)
[21:27] <crdlb> brutus: your problem is that ubuntu is loading the wrong kernel module
[21:27] <crdlb> brutus: we can force it to load the right one
[21:27] <brutus> Dr_willis, thats the big problem that I'm having- my system doesn't seem to read the xorg.conf: the device does read nvidia and not vesa
[21:28] <enzotib> _VIM_, http://imagebin.org/40379
[21:28] <Dr_willis> brutus:  you could always rename the xorg.conf so that you have none. and restart X and see if it can figure it all out. :) some of my nvidia systems dont need a xorg.conf
[21:28] <Supersaiyan_IV> brutus, 180versions have problems with the present kernels, this issue isn't fixed in the stable release yet, but in 180.35 it is
[21:28] <crdlb> Dr_willis: eh? X will not choose nvidia by default
[21:28] <crdlb> unless ubuntu has a patch
[21:28] <Supersaiyan_IV> brutus, you need the IgnoreABI server flag
[21:29] <crdlb> Supersaiyan_IV: he's using 7.10
[21:29] <brutus> Dr_willis, well I did try renaming too as someone suggested but still no luck...
[21:29] <Dr_willis> crdlb:  after installing the nvidia drivers here.. it did on some of my machines.
[21:29] <Supersaiyan_IV> crdlb, i see
[21:29] <crdlb> Dr_willis: jockey should have set it in xorg.conf
[21:29] <brutus> Supersaiyan_IV, where and how do i put this flag?
[21:29] <gislan> unop: I thought so too, but dpkg-reconfiguring mysql-common and mysql-server doesn't create my.cnf or debian.cnf and I can't figure out why
[21:29] <crdlb> brutus: run sudo nano -w /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common
[21:29] <BotLobsta> anyone know how to be able to use an external monitor with X with the command line?
[21:29] <Dr_willis> I got a collection of old xorg.conf files archived i often test out. :)
[21:30] <_VIM_> enzotib: yaeh that PPA is only for 8.10, it gives dependency errors saying needs freenx agent dependency
[21:30] <brutus> crdlb, done...and?
[21:30] <amgarchIn9> BotLobsta: man xrandr
[21:30] <crdlb> brutus: in that file, you will see a DISABLED_MODULES="" line, change that to DISABLED_MODULES="nvidia_legacy nvidia"
[21:30] <Dr_willis> BotLobsta:  clarify that to the channel please..     you want to do WHAT exactly?
[21:30] <crdlb> brutus: which will force it to use nvidia_new, your driver
[21:30] <brutus> crdlb, shouldn't it be nvidia-new and not legacy then?
[21:30] <Mood> Is there a way to get rar into thunar?
[21:31] <crdlb> brutus: it's DISABLED_MODULES :)
[21:31] <Supersaiyan_IV> brutus, sent hot to set the flag in pm
[21:31] <Supersaiyan_IV> how*
[21:31] <BotLobsta> i want to be able to use an external monitor on my laptop because my laptop screen is broken
[21:31] <brutus> crdlb, oops...sorry:)
[21:31] <amgarchIn9> BotLobsta: boot with external monitor connected
[21:31] <crdlb> brutus: also, ls /lib/linux-restricted-modules/.nvidia_legacy_installed
[21:32] <sebsebseb> BotLobsta: Ubuntu maybe thinks your lap top screen still works, so you got to do the  configuring two  screens xorg config nonsense. hummmmm    I can't help you with that
[21:32] <Dr_willis> BotLobsta:   tell the channel what your video card is in that thing? on my machines the laptop - monitor switch keys work.. but other laptops may vary
[21:32] <BotLobsta> amgarchIn9: ive done that and it doesnt make a difference
[21:32] <BotLobsta> Dr_willis: ive tried those keys as well.  i have a nvidia quadro nvs 140m
[21:33] <crdlb> brutus: that should either return the filename or a No such file or directory error
[21:33] <Dr_willis> BotLobsta:  You can install the nvidia drivers. and use the  nvidia-xconfig tool to tweak most all that stuff via the command line.
[21:33] <gislan> unop: aah, mysql-server is virtual package, I need to reconfigure mysql-sever-5.0, I think I've got it, thanks for help :)
[21:33] <brutus> crdlb, there's the new counterpart..but no legacy...
[21:33] <Dr_willis> BotLobsta:  check out the various 'twinview' docs out. enable clone mode for tqwinview perhaps would be the  safest thing
[21:33] <amgarchIn9> BotLobsta: do you see the boot screen on external monitor?
[21:33] <kiris> I have 4GB of RAM, on a 32-bit processor, and only 3.2GB is detected. am I right that I need PAE on my kernel?
[21:33] <webby> Is there a recent article on how to get dual monitors to work with a 2400 PRO ?
[21:33] <BotLobsta> Dr_willis: im not using the proprietary module, just the nv open source one
[21:34] <magcius> Just curious, is python-libtorrent built for Python 2.6? I'm running Jaunty.
[21:34] <dlmarti> Saw an image on the web, resized it and cleaned it up, slapped a gnome foot on it.  Your welcome to it:  http://www.terabytecode.com/stuff/gnome-wave.png  It bad a nice clean background for gnome.
[21:34] <crdlb> brutus: ok, good
[21:34] <Dr_willis> BotLobsta:  then you very well may be out of luck then.
[21:34] <webby> I'm afraid to try alot of the junk that I have been googling
[21:34] <dlmarti> *it made a nice
[21:34] <BotLobsta> amgarchIn9: yes
[21:34] <Dr_willis> BotLobsta:  on most of my nvidia machines if i dont install the nvidia drivers.. it automatically clones to the external.. but again.. it aparently varies with chipsets
[21:34] <guntbert> !ot | dlmarti
[21:34] <kiris> can I get PAE on my ubuntu desktop kernel?
[21:34] <brutus> crdlb, so should I restart X now?
[21:34] <crdlb> brutus: now 'sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new linux-generic' and then 'sudo nvidia-xconfig'
[21:34] <dlmarti> np, sry
[21:34] <crdlb> brutus: after both of those, reboot
[21:35] <new-tu> yo!  :)
[21:35] <new-tu> I have a VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 01).   Goal: be able to have a choice of resolutions rather than the 640x480 installed by default.  Already tried to go to "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" - got the screen for the keyboard settings, then it went back to the command line.  Did not bring up resolution...
[21:35] <new-tu> ...adjustments
[21:35] <crdlb> brutus: oh, and just to make sure, does 'uname -r' contain 'generic'?
[21:35] <brutus> crdlb, both these are already installed
[21:35] <amgarchIn9> BotLobsta: at grub prompt say "2" to boot into runlevel 2 (text mode). Otherwise no ideas
[21:35] <turtle_> have you heard of the new nvidia intel Graphics processor integration
[21:35] <brutus> crdlb, yup...it does have generic
[21:36] <crdlb> brutus: ok, run sudo nvidia-xconfig and reboot (restarting X isn't enough)
[21:36] <brutus> crdlb, ok....i'll do that and btb
[21:36] <brutus> *brb
[21:36] <BotLobsta> amgarchIn9: im currently running in text mode and the output is being copied to the external monitor.  it just doesnt stay that way with X
[21:36] <guntbert> amgarchIn9: that would give a text prompt in other distros, not in ubuntu
[21:37] <amgarchIn9> guntbert: how to do this in ubuntu then?
[21:37] <turtle_> use nvida x config GUI
[21:38] <amgarchIn9> BotLobsta: "copied"? are you saying LCD also works?
[21:38] <turtle_> amgarchIn9,  can you see the laptop screen at all?
[21:38] <new-tu> tirtle are i replying to me or someone else
[21:38] <kiris> I really don't want to have to start compiling my kernel all the time to get the full 4GB of memory. does anyone know of a desktop kernel package with PAE enabled?
[21:39] <turtle_> new-tu, you\
[21:39] <guntbert> amgarchIn9: kill gdm or keep it from starting (ubuntu is using a new concept, named upstart)
[21:39] <turtle_> kiris, what is PAE?
[21:39] <amgarchIn9> turtle_: my screen is allright, it is BotLobsta who has problems
[21:39] <turtle_> oh, sorry
[21:39] <new-tu> ah, hi there turtle.  :)  i am using an intel card - but you seem to be saying that the nvidia solution might apply to my intel card - is taht right?
[21:39] <LjL> turtle_: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_Address_Extension
[21:40] <kiris> turtle_: some kernel option that is apparently going to help me actually use all of my memory
[21:40] <kiris> sigh
[21:40] <mrwes> kiris: you use all 4GB of memory running Ubuntu?
[21:40] <crdlb> brutus: so?
[21:40] <Mood> ok- i answered my question. fyi- if you want rar to show up in archiver (within thunar), just sudo apt-get install rar (close source, but it's avail in repositories)
[21:41] <turtle_> kiris, how much mem do you have bro
[21:41] <sn00zer> Is it true that when generating a ssh key pair longer is better? i.e. 4096 bits > 1024 bits? or is it true that a larger key creates more attack vectors and is therefore less secure? Also which is better, RSA or DSA?
[21:41] <turtle_> i thought it was automatic with the _64 versions
[21:41] <evilbug> how can i update to .10 from .04 from a shell?
[21:41] <kiris> turtle_: just 4GB, but it's limited to 3.2GB on 32-bit, it seems
[21:42] <turtle_> kiris, do you have 32bit?
[21:42] <kiris> mrwes: no, I use about 200 running ubuntu
[21:42] <kiris> turtle_: yes
[21:42] <turtle_> kiris, what processor do you have?
[21:42] <guntbert> sn00zer: ask in ##crypto or ##security
[21:42] <kiris> turtle_: pentium core 2 quad
[21:42] <brutus> crdlb, Dr_willis *sigh*, no luck after nvidia-xconfig too- my xorg.conf has become pretty bare now: http://pastebin.com/m17eac597
[21:43] <sn00zer> guntbert: thanks
[21:43] <turtle_> kiris, why not use 64bit version?
[21:43] <crdlb> brutus: pastebin dmesg | grep nvidia
[21:43] <kiris> turtle_: my pentium is not 64-bit
[21:43] <qknight> schmidtm: huhu
[21:43] <turtle_> kiris, same processor as me.  Its quad core you said
[21:43] <crdlb> kiris: yes it is
[21:43] <brutus> crdlb, here it is: http://pastebin.com/d5cad0f02
[21:44] <turtle_> kiris, problem solved
[21:44] <kiris> oh
[21:44] <kiris> I wish it said that before I bought it
[21:44] <guntbert> evilbug: I don't understand what you are trying to do
[21:44] <kiris> compiler issues here I come!
[21:44] <kiris> thanks, guys
[21:45] <crdlb> kiris: eh? it'll still run a 32bit OS fine
[21:45] <mrwes> so why do you need to see the addtional memory if you'll never use it?
[21:45] <mrwes> shrug
[21:45] <kiris> mrwes: who said I'll never use it?
[21:46] <kiris> why do you think I bought the 4GB? t
[21:46] <mrwes> you'll tap 4GB?
[21:46] <turtle_> kiris, just load an entire new ISO of Ubuntu?
[21:46] <kiris> I'm planning on some simulations and virtualisation, so I'll be using it
[21:46] <crdlb> brutus: oops, I should have said: dmesg | grep -i nvidia
[21:46] <turtle_> kiris, or you could play with PAE for fun
[21:46] <kiris> turtle_: is it possible to upgrade a 32-bit ubuntu to 64-bit? or will I have to install fresh ?
[21:46] <brutus> crdlb, maybe the problem can be traced by the error output of glxgears? Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[21:46] <brutus> Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual
[21:47] <turtle_> kiris, you have istall fresh
[21:47] <crdlb> brutus: no, that's just a symptom
[21:47] <turtle_> it might be possible but not worth it
[21:47] <crdlb> brutus: the nvidia driver will not run at all without the right kernel module, so that's why we're looking at dmesg
[21:47] <kiris> turtle_: well I guess I've barely installed anything yet so it's not a big problem
[21:47] <turtle_> or maybe dual boot kiris?
[21:48] <kiris> ?
[21:48] <turtle_> personally, i enjoy wiping and installing fresh
[21:48] <kiris> my pc came with 32-bit vista
[21:48] <kiris> how stupid is that?
[21:48] <brutus> crdlb, okay the output with -i: http://pastebin.com/m5c29243c
[21:48] <kiris> it only detected 3.2GB of memory
[21:48] <turtle_> is that what is on there now?
[21:48] <kiris> yeah, and I've installed ubuntu dual-boot
[21:48] <crdlb> brutus: ok, that's good
[21:49] <crdlb> brutus: now pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log please
[21:49] <turtle_> oh, well does ubuntu realize all 4gigs?
[21:49] <brutus> crdlb, just a sec
[21:49] <crdlb> brutus: one step down, possibly only one more to go :)
[21:49] <kiris> turtle_: no, it shows 3.2GB just the same
[21:49] <guntbert> kiris: try 64 with a live CD first, there are still some problems, but workarounds do exist
[21:49] <turtle_> hmmm
[21:49] <kiris> guntbert: what kind of problems, for example?
[21:50] <brutus> crdlb, please dear god :)
[21:50] <brutus> crdlb, Here's the log: http://pastebin.com/m5650ab57
[21:50] <spool2> is anyone here familiar with the rtl8187 wireless chipset?
[21:50] <kiris> mrwes: I agree with the phrase "unused ram is wasted ram"
[21:50] <guntbert> kiris: getting flash to run seems to be one iirc
[21:51] <kiris> guntbert: ah, crap. I use flash a lot
[21:51] <turtle_> kiris, I have 3 and only notices 2.9G
[21:51] <crdlb> brutus: hmm, did you get a message when you started that X was going into low graphics ode?
[21:51] <aijnknknj> hi how do i get the panel on the bottom to come back i accidently deleted it
[21:51] <crdlb> aijnknknj: right click on the top one and make a new one
[21:51] <_VIM_> !panels
[21:51] <guntbert> kiris: I am on 64 and youtube is no problem for my firefox anymore
[21:51] <brutus> crdlb, yes...
[21:52] <spool2> i am running ubuntu 8.10 and the native wireless drivers seems to work for my rtl8187l wifi card, but i dont know if the native drivers will allow me the full potential of the card i have
[21:52] <spool2> and i would like to blacklist it
[21:52] <ldiamond> Anyone here have ATI videocard? I need to know if the drivers are better now? (as good as Nvidia's)?
[21:52] <Keroman> Hello.  Just installed 8.10 on this laptop yesterday and I can't access the hard drive partition that doesn't contain the OS.  I was using Windows XP before this.  Does anybody know if there's a specific way to mount the drive?  I'm not in any hurry, so if you're busy I can wait.
[21:52] <spool2> does anyone know how to do this?
[21:52] <aijnknknj> wheres my trash can and programs
[21:52] <kiris> guntbert: what 64-bit issues *do* you have? I wouldn't want to get all setup and find something really fundamental is completely broken
[21:52] <crdlb> aijnknknj: and add Show Desktop, Window List, Workspace Switcher, and Trash to it
[21:52] <aijnknknj> o ook thanks
[21:52] <brutus> crdlb, and It asks me to configure... and when I change plug and play to my LCD 1440*900 it doesn't listen to me anyway and starts with 800*600
[21:53] <crdlb> brutus: that's because you're using VESA now
[21:53] <spool2> does anyone know how to blacklist native drivers?
[21:53] <guntbert> kiris: thats why I suggested an extended live CD session, I myself don't have any 64-bit issues, but I'm not into video/sound...
[21:53] <cherva> !debugger
[21:53] <spool2> !native
[21:53] <turtle_> kiris, Linux has had 64 bit and been developing for it for years,  i have no issues with mine
[21:53] <kiris> guntbert: hmm, ok. I'll try the live cd
[21:53] <kiris> turtle_: good
[21:54] <cherva> can someone tell me a nice debugger witch has a GUI because gdb is a little too much to start with....
[21:54] <geotsai> i'm using ubuntu8.10 x64, and i used to be able to connect online through the wireless connection, but suddenly now, i cant.  can someone help me?
[21:54] <crdlb> brutus: alright, let's try this: sudo apt-get --purge remove nvidia-glx-new; sudo apt-get --reinstall install xserver-xorg-core libgl1-mesa-glx; sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new
[21:54] <mylisto> hey all...getting a "Buffer I/O error on device sr0 Logical Block"
[21:54] <turtle_> geotsai, lspci
[21:54] <crdlb> brutus: that sequence should remove nvidia, reinstall the stock X stuff, and install the nvidia package, which should make everything the right version
[21:55] <brutus> crdlb, lemme try...
[21:55] <mylisto> when trying the live version on a desktop...I know for a fact that the hard drives master boot record is messed up...anyway around this?
[21:55] <mrwes> kiris: you're new puter w/ 4gb of ram shipped with Vista 32bit?
[21:56] <mrwes> er your even
[21:56] <kiris> mrwes: yeah, how odd is that?
[21:56] <kiris> it's this one --> http://www.dabs.com/productview.aspx?Quicklinx=5FSB&CategorySelectedId=11011&PageMode=1&NavigationKey=11011&InMerch=1&AddReview=1
[21:56] <spool2> does anyone know who to disable the wifi native drivers?
[21:56] <mrwes> crazy aye?
[21:56] <geotsai> turtle_, the wireless network is detected, but when i attempt to connect, it just stays with two green dots forever.  i can connect online using the same laptop when booting into windows tho.
[21:57] <turtle_> tons of 64 bit CPUs come with 32 bit OS? I dont get it
[21:57] <turtle_> geotsai, uninstall and reinstall the driver
[21:57] <mrwes> turtle_: well if you have 4gb of ram that's stupid
[21:57] <geotsai> turtle_, how would i do this? im just using the default driver that ubuntu installed
[21:58] <nbuntu> does anyone here know anything about networking ?
[21:58] <lyhana8> hi, does anyone know how to use vlc as digikam player ?
[21:58] <joinAD> what are u networking?
[21:58] <turtle_> geotsai, in synaptic package manager
[21:58] <brutus>  crdlb Reinstallation of xserver-xorg-core is not possible, it cannot be downloaded.
[21:58] <brutus> crdlb, that's the error
[21:58] <nbuntu> occasionaly when i load ubuntu - it fails to find my ip on the network
[21:58] <turtle_> its in the added programs somewhere i think
[21:58] <crdlb> brutus: :o
[21:58] <nbuntu> resulting in no connectivity
[21:59] <geotsai> turtle_,  thanks, ill take a look
[21:59] <albacker> how can i see which ubuntu version do i have??
[21:59] <crdlb> brutus: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[21:59] <crdlb> !version | albacker
[21:59] <turtle_> make sure its not a silly error like your networking is turned off or something, geotsai
[21:59] <albacker> crdlb, thnx
[21:59] <joinAD> that happened to this machine.  i added a default route to get to the gateway
[21:59] <nbuntu> i'm not behind a router by the way
[21:59] <brutus> crdlb, well I'm behind a proxy so my sources are not global but locally updated from time to time by someone
[21:59] <nbuntu> anyone wanna take my case?
[22:00] <albacker> crdlb, 8.10 is the latest one ??
[22:00] <brutus> crdlb, this explains why I'm using such an old driver
[22:00] <nbuntu> there's a can of soda in it for you - and maybe a chocolate
[22:00] <geotsai> turtle_,  it attempts to connect, but is stuck at something like 'determining ip address' or something like that
[22:00] <Vlet> If I added a line to my rc.local and there were an error, where about might it be logged?
[22:00] <crdlb> albacker: yes
[22:01] <brutus> crdlb, and the proxy doesn't allow me to connect to repositories outside of my LAN
[22:01] <crdlb> brutus: not exactly; you're using an old driver because you have an old release of ubuntu (7.10)
[22:01] <crdlb> brutus: ugh :/
[22:01] <albacker> crdlb, thanks. someone told me about 9.04.. and last question, if yo know anything about ATI graphics on ubuntu ? there are 2 types the radeon(open source)one or the ati.com (flgrx) ones.. i got the radeon installed, but do you think the others from ati.com will work better.
[22:02] <turtle_> geotsai, thats strange
[22:02] <brutus> crdlb, I did a reinstall for xserver-xorg...would that be ok?
[22:02] <crdlb> albacker: what model GPU?
[22:02] <grafxalien> anyone care to help someone very new to linux with "standby" S1 power mode help?
[22:02] <crdlb> brutus: no, it needs to be xserver-xorg-core
[22:03] <guntbert> albacker: 9.04 is still beta, due end of april
[22:03] <albacker> crdlb, procesor : intel centrino,
[22:03] <turtle_> geotsai, reset the router
[22:03] <geotsai> turtle_, i was actually just wondering if there was a way to reinstall everything that has to do with networking and start from scratch. is there a way?
[22:03] <crdlb> brutus: actually the glx module looks ok based on a previous log
[22:03] <geotsai> turtle_, i've done everything including trying different wireless connections etc.  same result
[22:03] <crdlb> brutus: so you can skip that
[22:03] <turtle_> hmm
[22:03] <crdlb> brutus: can you at least reinstall libgl1-mesa-glx ?
[22:04] <brutus> crdlb, yes I could do that
[22:04] <turtle_> unplug the router and the base computer and turn it back  on, geotsai
[22:04] <geotsai> turtle_, furthermore, it works perfectly in windows, so its isolated in ubuntu.  it doesnt appear to be driver based because it discoveres the network, but cant connect
[22:04] <brutus> crdlb, It wasn't installd in the first place :)
[22:04] <crdlb> brutus: O_o
[22:04] <Keroman> Would anybody happen to know how to mount a hard drive partition that I used to save my data on under Windows XP but now can't access it since switching to Ubuntu 8.10?  There's no OS data on the drive.
[22:05] <turtle_> geotsai,  you've got me stumped, sorry
[22:05] <geotsai> turtle_, thansk for your help anyway
[22:05] <turtle_> geotsai, welcome
[22:05] <crdlb> brutus: anyway, I guess you can install nvidia-glx-new now
[22:05] <crdlb> brutus: as it's installing, do you see the version 100.14.19 printed?
[22:05] <mylisto> Just downloaded the lastest desktop version for my gf's desktop so that she could use her computer...I know for a fact that the master boot record is screwed up...getting this error "hey all...getting a "Buffer I/O error on device sr0, Logical Block 178898"
[22:06] <brutus> crdlb, I guess so: Setting up nvidia-glx-new (100.14.19+2.6.22.4-14.9)
[22:06] <guntbert> Keroman: do you know what partition that is?
[22:06] <brutus> crdlb, Is vesa a kind of driver?
[22:06] <crdlb> brutus: it's a generic one
[22:07] <guntbert> !ntfs | Keroman
[22:07] <ASUSBlue> Plz help about to through computer out windows
[22:07] <crdlb> brutus: if 'lsmod | grep nvidia' gives you any output, you can just restart X now
[22:07] <Keroman> I'm not sure.  I mean, under Windows it was the 'D:' drive, and on Ubuntu I'm pretty sure it's the 'sda5' drive.
[22:07] <grafxalien> does anyone know how to get standby power mode in 8.10 ?
[22:07] <ASUSBlue> unable to eject cd drives in ubuntu.
[22:07] <Nalf> Hello. Might there be support for using the Wubi installer here?
[22:08] <magcius> Just curious, is python-libtorrent built for Python 2.6? I'm using Jaunty.
[22:08] <magcius> Deluge says it can't find libtorrent.
[22:08] <XPS_M1330> hey has anyone had problems connec.10 to a wifi network using WEP?
[22:08] <ASUSBlue> I have a laptop with ubuntu 8.10 64bit and i can't eject and cd's once they are in. Windows works with no problem so it's ubuntu PLz help this is very annoying
[22:08] <Keroman> Sorry, I had 3 people saying different things to me.  How do I use the !ntfs?
[22:09] <brutus> crdlb, ok I did restart, and not I have 1440*900 (phew) but that's still on vesa
[22:09] <brutus> *now
[22:09] <mylisto> anyone?
[22:09] <ASUSBlue> I can't get drive working unless i reboot
[22:09] <guntbert> Keroman: look at the link ubottu gave you, there's a long guide on that site
[22:09] <crdlb> brutus: what makes you say it's vesa?
[22:09] <Nalf> Wow, everyone has questions. Experienced users must get annoyed. <.<
[22:09] <brutus> crdlb, For once- I can't enable desktop effects, two- it says so in "screens and graphics"
[22:10] <crdlb> brutus: ok, pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log again
[22:10] <Keroman> Alright, I'm looking at it now.  Give me a bit and I'll pop back in if something doesn't make sense or if the guide doesn't get things working for me.  Thanks.
[22:10] <CosmiChaos> my floppy refuses to change content
[22:10] <CosmiChaos> any ideas?
[22:10] <guntbert> Keroman: yw and for the future:
[22:10] <guntbert> !who
[22:11] <brutus> crdlb, Here it is: http://pastebin.com/m724e3d1d
[22:11] <guntbert> !jaunty | magcius
[22:11] <magcius> guntbert, I'm there.
[22:11] <magcius> guntbert, I asked my question first there.
[22:12] <ASUSBlue> Plz help can't eject cd-roms in ubuntu
[22:12] <sebsebseb> Nalf: no not at all,  that's the whole point of this, suppourt channel
[22:12] <mrwes> ASUSBlue: even if you right click on the desktop icon and choose eject?
[22:12] <flatratte> Hello all!
[22:13] <sebsebseb> hi
[22:13] <guntbert> magcius: np, but usually different versions use different libs too
[22:13] <Nalf> That's good, sebsebseb. ^_^
[22:13] <ASUSBlue> mrwes
[22:13] <ASUSBlue> no
[22:13] <mylisto> Just downloaded the lastest desktop version for my gf's desktop so that she could use her computer...I know for a fact that the master boot record is screwed up...getting this error "hey all...getting a "Buffer I/O error on device sr0, Logical Block 178898"
[22:14] <exodus_ms> sebsebseb, I guess Nalf would have known that when he logged on and read " Topic for #ubuntu is: Official Ubuntu Support Channel"
[22:14] <ASUSBlue> mrwes unable to eject any way
[22:14] <sebsebseb> exodus_ms: indeed
[22:14] <sebsebseb> !ask | Nalf
[22:14] <ASUSBlue> i have to shut down the computer then turn it on in order to ejct
[22:14] <mrwes> ASUSBlue: hit the alt + F2 key and type gksu nautilus   that'll start a nautilus scession as root, see if you can eject and/or umount as root
[22:14] <coreyman> asus blue find out the name of your cd drive from /etc/fstab and force a umount
[22:15] <brutus> crdlb, what restricted drivers manager says (that i'm using an nvidia driver) and what screens and graphics is saying (ditto, vesa) it conflicting....
[22:15] <guntbert> ASUSBlue: try "eject" from the command shell
[22:15] <ASUSBlue> oh check this out if i restart instead of turning it off the comupter will freeze that the bios splash screen
[22:15] <Nalf> udevd-event[6000]: run_program : '/sbin/modprobe' abnormal exit. Does anyone know if this issue has shown up recently? (I am using the Wubi installer with an amb64 bit build)
[22:15] <ryanprior> I put a CD in my drive but it doesn't show up in the file browser. How can I find out what is wrong?
[22:15] <coreyman> asusblue you may have a faulty disc drive
[22:15] <Nalf> Exodus, I know what this is, but people generally get annoyed giving support in this sort of environment.
[22:15] <coreyman> asusblue find out the name of your cd drive from /etc/fstab and force a umount
[22:16] <ASUSBlue> That does not work because it does not see it there anymore
[22:16] <crdlb> brutus: ok, now I have no idea what's wrong, so we have to try stopping X and using startx to get a real log
[22:16] <exodus_ms> Nalf, what? that is what this channel is for, strictly support only, all other stuff can be discussed at #ubuntu-offtopic and other channels
[22:17] <coreyman> asusblue ... if the drive is not in your fstab how are you using it
[22:17] <Nalf> I posted my issue already, thanks. :)
[22:17] <ASUSBlue> It stops working when you try to eject
[22:17] <exodus_ms> Nalf, the only people here are those seeking help and those helping those who need it
[22:17] <ASUSBlue> OH like i can watcha dvd movie if i want
[22:17] <ASUSBlue> but try to eject
[22:17] <ASUSBlue> it
[22:18] <brutus> crdlb, so that means x11-common restart; startx ?
[22:18] <ASUSBlue> your stuck because you have to completely shut down
[22:18] <coreyman> asusblue ... then it is being mounted, so it is in your fstab
[22:18] <Nalf> Wakarimasu.
[22:18] <ASUSBlue> IT should be
[22:18] <ASUSBlue> let double check
[22:18] <guntbert> Nalf: I'm afraid there is not much support for wubi here :)
[22:18] <guntbert> !wubi
[22:18] <Nalf> Thank you very much, guntbert.
[22:18] <exodus_ms> Nalf, what kernel are you using
[22:19] <greyfrog> need to turn a .java file into a .class file, anyone know the preferred jdk for ubuntu?
[22:19] <keithclark> In Firefox, I'm trying to access a site that uses flash, Webkinz, and it does not seem to work.  I've updated the Adobe drivers via Synaptic, but ti still does not work.  I think it is trying to use Gnash and all that does is make my cpu work 100% ande just freezes firefox.
[22:19] <Nalf> Let me check, Exodus.
[22:19] <coreyman> greyfrog .. the newest one
[22:19] <sebsebseb> keithclark: ok  interseting issue
[22:19] <greyfrog> coreyman, theres a bunch listed.  do I use the one from sun?
[22:20] <coreyman> greyfrog yes
[22:20] <sebsebseb> keithclark: how much RAM you got?  1GB?
[22:20] <greyfrog> coreyman, k thanks
[22:20] <coreyman> greyfrog if you have trouble compiling let me knw
[22:20] <keithclark> sebsebseb: 512 MB
[22:20] <ASUSBlue> No one else is having this problem. It mainly happens when i finishing watching a movie
[22:20] <sebsebseb> keithclark: you can't have Adobe Flash and Gnash installed at same time, for a working Flash in FIREFOX
[22:20] <coreyman> asusblue you said you were going to check if it was in your fstab
[22:20] <crdlb> brutus: first, make sure your xorg.conf says nvidia (just run sudo nvidia-xconfig) then, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop; startx
[22:21] <sebsebseb> keithclark: ok I get my own issues with Ubuntu's unoffical  Firefox version.  with 1GB
[22:21] <keithclark> sebsebseb: It used to work before I upgraded this computer to 8.10 from 8.04
[22:21] <sebsebseb> keithclark: I have had 100% CPU usage, because of Firefox,  either, becasue of Flash, Gnash, or Swfdec, or loads of tabs open
[22:21] <crdlb> brutus: this probably will fail and put you at a terminal, then you must copy the Xorg.0.log like this: cp /var/log/Xorg.0.log Xorg.0.log (to copy it into your home folder)
[22:21] <ASUSBlue> coreyman it is
[22:21] <crdlb> brutus: then you can reboot to get X back, or run sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[22:21] <sebsebseb> keithclark: looks  like your going to have problems with Firefox since you only got 512MB RAM
[22:22] <coreyman> asusblue umount the drive
[22:22] <sebsebseb> keithclark: even on 2GB though FIrefox can memory leak
[22:22] <coreyman> sudo umount drivename
[22:22] <coreyman> if it says busy
[22:22] <brutus> crdlb, got it...i'll be back
[22:22] <coreyman> force it.
[22:22] <keithclark> sebsebseb: I had the same memory with 8.04 as I do with 8.10 though
[22:22] <Nalf> I'm not sure what version of the kernel I am using. It's 8.10 amd64, though.
[22:22] <sebsebseb> keithclark: yes, but it won't be the same Firefox.  and  it's unoffical  version
[22:23] <keithclark> sebsebseb: ah, got you.  thanks.
[22:23] <sebsebseb> keithclark: Firefox in Ubuntu is not the proper version from Mozilla, it's a Ubuntu version
[22:23] <frostburn> Nalf, uname -a
[22:23] <sebsebseb> keithclark: and loads of other browsers that are good you can have in Ubuntu and install from the repo
[22:23] <CrypticSwarm> ev
[22:23] <ASUSBlue> coreyman please take a look http://pastie.org/409828
[22:24] <Nalf> Frost, I'm using the computer I want to install Ubuntu on. Issue is I don't have any blank cds, or a wired connection to the internet so I resorted to the Wubi installer.
[22:24] <brutus> crdlb, Wohoo!!! The Nvidia splash screen!
[22:24] <sebsebseb> keithclark: the  Ubuntu version of Firefox has some Ubuntu specific improvements, but then this 100% CPU nonsense
[22:25] <coreyman> asusblue it is not in your fstab >.>
[22:25] <crdlb> brutus: nice
[22:25] <brutus> crdlb, I've never been so happy to see their logo....now everythings back to normal w00t!
[22:25] <brutus> crdlb, thank you so much for your help! really appreciate it
[22:25] <keithclark> sebsebseb: got you.  Too bad
[22:25] <ASUSBlue> but why does it work
[22:25] <ASUSBlue> when i reboot
[22:25] <mezy> uh....what does chmod +Xx mean?
[22:25] <crdlb> brutus: to make sure this is going to stick, you should ctrl-alt-bksp and sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[22:26] <crdlb> brutus: if that works too, then you're home free
[22:26] <ASUSBlue> so what should i do coreyman
[22:26] <brutus> crdlb, lemme just try that :)
[22:26] <sebsebseb> keithclark: what you doing to do?
[22:26] <coreyman> asusblue let me think.
[22:26] <skel> anyone know if 9.04 will have gnome 2.26 by beta release?
[22:26] <XPS_M1330> hey has anyone had problems connecting ubuntu 8.10 to a wifi network using WEP?
[22:26] <coreyman> asusblue is this disc drive ide or sata?
[22:26] <keithclark> sebsebseb: www.webkinz.com for my son
[22:27] <crdlb> skel: it already has development versions of it
[22:27] <ASUSBlue> sata cause it's new
[22:27] <sebsebseb> keithclark: I see that's why you want Flash
[22:27] <crdlb> skel: like it says gnome 2.25.92 for me now
[22:27] <coreyman> asusblue did you just recently install it
[22:27] <brutus> crdlb, both working....yay!
[22:28] <keithclark> sebsebseb: ok, to fix, I just removed gnash via synaptic and now all seems well!
[22:28] <sebsebseb> keithclark: yeah if a plugin like Flash goes bad in Firefox,  the whole browser can crash, but other browsers if the plugin goes bad no problem
[22:28] <skel> crdlb: hmm ok, maybe the openchange mapi stuff isn't in there yet though
[22:28] <keithclark> sebsebseb: still 100% cpu, but useable.
[22:28] <brutus> crdlb, thank you once again....
[22:28] <mezy> uh....what does chmod +Xx mean?
[22:28] <ASUSBlue> coreyman no it's  laptop
[22:28] <sebsebseb> keithclark: ok well  if problems with Firefox, it makes sense to have a few browsers isntalled where Flash will work no problem
[22:28] <Nalf> Wait, firefox is giving 100% cpu?
[22:28] <sebsebseb> Nalf: yep Ubuntu's unoffical version
[22:29] <ortsvorsteher> mezy chmod changes permissions on files or directories
[22:29] <keithclark> sebsebseb: I will try the others.  Thanks for your help!
[22:29] <sebsebseb> keithclark: do you know the names of the others?
[22:29] <mezy> ortsvorsteher: thanks
[22:29] <keithclark> sebsebseb: yup, thanks!
[22:29] <ortsvorsteher> mezy:  chmod +x means to give execute rights :)
[22:29] <crdlb> brutus: you're welcome, it's been a long time since I've dealt with gutsy :)
[22:29] <ortsvorsteher> !chmod
[22:29] <sebsebseb> keithclark: Epiphany, Galeon, and Konqueror, Seamonkey, etc
[22:29] <mezy> ortsvorsteher: and +Xx?
[22:29] <Nalf> Sebsebseb is there a detailed guide for a usb install posted anywhere?
[22:30] <keithclark> sebsebseb: yup!  No issues at all.  Later and thanks again.
[22:30] <sebsebseb> keithclark: ok no problem
[22:30] <coreyman> asusblue add it to your fstab
[22:30] <brutus> crdlb, ah...this calls for an upgrade...i'm done with gutsy
[22:30] <sebsebseb> !usb
[22:30] <guntbert> mezy: I don't think thats a correct command
[22:30] <coreyman> asusblue if it is the first and only cd drive it should be something like /dev/scd0
[22:30] <_VIM_> konqueror will likely pull in a load of KDE libs though
[22:30] <ASUSBlue> how
[22:30] <mylisto> Just downloaded the lastest desktop version for my gf's desktop so that she could use her computer...I know for a fact that the master boot record is screwed up...getting this error "hey all...getting a "Buffer I/O error on device sr0, Logical Block 178898"  Any idea how to get this working?  Just trying to get the live version working...
[22:30] <ASUSBlue> do i do that coreman
[22:30] <crdlb> brutus: lol, don't break it again :P
[22:30] <spool2> does anyone know what kernal the latest ubuntu comes with?
[22:30] <sebsebseb> _VIM_: he is gone, and true, but those libs can be used for other KDE apps as well
[22:30] <coreyman> like this
[22:30] <coreyman> /dev/scd0       /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec,utf8 0       0
[22:30] <sebsebseb> spool2: in the termianl:  uname -r
[22:30] <Nalf> Thank you very much, sebsebseb.
[22:31] <ortsvorsteher> mezy: try in an terminal man chmod and figure out :) i also will do that
[22:31] <spool2> sebsebseb, i have 2.6.27, but would like to have kernal 2.6.28
[22:31] <crdlb> spool2: 8.10 has 2.6.27, 9.04 alpha has 2.6.28
[22:31] <brutus> crdlb, haha...if i do I'm sure you won't have the patience to unbreak it again :D
[22:31] <spool2> is there a file i can download to get 2.6.28?
[22:31] <ASUSBlue> coreyman add that to the end of the file
[22:31] <spool2> a patch or something of the sort?
[22:31] <sebsebseb> spool2: the latest Linux kernel is quite a lot later then that, but  distros don't tend to use the very latest, because  new code means bugs
[22:31] <memo_> #linuxac
[22:31] <dsdeiz> help i'm getting this error *** glibc detected *** double free or corruption
[22:31] <sebsebseb> spool2: Ubuntu will use a version that is not that special, but  good
[22:32] <brenlae> hey, i have a question
[22:32] <_VIM_> !ask
[22:32] <brenlae> how do i install ndiswrapper on an offline system?
[22:32] <brenlae> i have a thumbdrive
[22:32]  * _VIM_ jumped the gun
[22:32] <_VIM_> :)
[22:32] <sebsebseb> spool2: next Ubuntu in April and I expect it has a later kernel
[22:32] <dsdeiz> anyone? pls help, most of my apps are not working anymore
[22:32] <ortsvorsteher> !enter | brenlae
[22:32] <ASUSBlue> corey man where do i add it
[22:32] <sebsebseb> !ndiswrapper
[22:32] <coreyman> asusblue yea
[22:32] <coreyman> asusblue end of file
[22:32] <ASUSBlue> oh ok then reboot
[22:32] <sebsebseb> brenlae: it's on the Live CD
[22:32] <crdlb> brutus: you _should_ be on the ubuntu packages for everything, so an upgrade shouldn't fail, but there's a lot of 'should's in that :)
[22:32] <brenlae> k
[22:32] <Stevenking> hallo zusammen
[22:33] <ASUSBlue> ok corey man i will be right back
[22:33] <coreyman> ok asusblue
[22:33] <ortsvorsteher> brenlae: feel free to ask, but try it in onw line so that anyone can understand it easily what you mean
[22:33] <molly> hi
[22:33] <brenlae> sure :)
[22:33] <Stevenking> habe mal ne frage: ich versuche java als plugin für firefox zu installieren aber irgendwie geht a nix
[22:33] <guntbert> !de | Stevenking
[22:33] <sebsebseb> dsdeiz: any idea why?
[22:34] <sebsebseb> molly: hey
[22:34] <sebsebseb> molly: would you like help with something?
[22:34] <sebsebseb> !ask
[22:34] <dsdeiz> i'm getting this error *** glibc detected *** double free or corruption
[22:34] <molly> sum one no about downloading themes
[22:35] <molly> ubuntu?
[22:35] <sebsebseb> !themes
[22:35] <brutus> crdlb, I'm very reluctant to do an upgrade coz last time I did that my system totally lost it...what I'll do this time is backup my stuff and install intrepid afresh
[22:35] <sebsebseb> !changethemes
[22:36] <sebsebseb> molly: I think the above will help,  also blubuntu  in the repo/syanptic will give you a nice background, and a nice  log in screen
[22:36] <brenlae> anybody know where i can find a link to ndiswrapper-common, ndiswrapper-utils and ndisgtk? i wish to put it on my thumbdrive (i know how to install it)
[22:36] <molly> nice thanx salot!
[22:37] <_VIM_> molly open up the theme gui System > preferences > Appearance and just drag the theme's file to it, the entire file, dont decompress the file anywhere
[22:37] <Until_It_Sleeps> Is it possible to "Upgrade" to the 64 bit version of Ubuntu from the 32 bit version?
[22:37] <_VIM_> no
[22:37] <brenlae> wait, i think i found a link...
[22:38] <sebsebseb> Until_It_Sleeps: no you must clean install
[22:38] <Until_It_Sleeps> Oh... dang...
[22:38] <Until_It_Sleeps> That's a bummer... Oh well...
[22:39] <javierAndres> Wat is de ubuntu spanish node?
[22:39] <sebsebseb> !es
[22:39] <Denise> you know alibaba?
[22:39] <sebsebseb> !de
[22:39] <javierAndres> !es
[22:40] <sebsebseb> _VIM_: yeah installing themes,  can be an issue
[22:41] <ASUSBlue> coreyman not working
[22:41]  * Until_It_Sleeps resizes his Windows partition, and goes ahead with a triple-boot configuration for now until he transfers everything to his new install.
[22:41] <coreyman> asusblue :(
[22:41] <_VIM_> took me eons to figure out you just drag/drop the archived theme to the theme manager,,, I wont admit that very often ;)
[22:41] <coreyman> asusblue google adding a cd drive, i've never done it manually
[22:41] <ASUSBlue> It let me eject
[22:41] <brenlae> now, which do i install first - ndiswrapper-utils or ndiswrapper-common?
[22:41] <coreyman> asusblue oh it did.
[22:41] <ASUSBlue> but once i put it back in it wont read
[22:41] <coreyman> asusblue it might have the wrong iso version
[22:41] <ASUSBlue> then can't eject
[22:41] <coreyman> asusblue google adding a cd drive, i've never done it.
[22:42] <ASUSBlue> oh ok thanks anyway lol
[22:42] <JessicaParker> can anyone assist with getting the mic to work on my toshiba satellite
[22:42] <JessicaParker> it does not work
[22:43] <sebsebseb> !sound
[22:43]  * Until_It_Sleeps dies from old age as he waits for the Windows partition to be resized...
[22:43] <JessicaParker> unbelieveably the video cam works startigh out of the box
[22:43] <coreyman> jessicaparker i have a toshiba satelite but it doesn't have a mic
[22:43] <JessicaParker> mine is built in with video cam
[22:43] <JessicaParker> i think
[22:43] <coreyman> until_it_sleeps it takes forever
[22:43] <sebsebseb> JessicaParker: play with the sound controls and you may be able to get it working
[22:44] <ensay> JessicaParker-> yeah do spot checks to see if its enabled, light is on on the camera..
[22:45] <Until_It_Sleeps> coreyman: I know... it has every time...
[22:45] <JessicaParker> camera is fine
[22:45] <JessicaParker> light is also on
[22:45] <ensay> whose got 8.10? can you kindly check if  /lib/firmware/`uname -r`/acx*   exist on yours, for TI ACX wireless drivers?
[22:45] <Until_It_Sleeps> and it never shows a percentage either... it has always stayed at 0% for the entire resize...
[22:46] <ensay> JessicaParker-> try alsconf from your terminal and see if any settings thats muted or inactive?
[22:46] <qsi> hi all, .. i'm doing a script in bash something like : for line in $(nmap -sP -oG - 10.0.0.0/24);do......done       The problem is that the line variable gets filled word by word instead of line by line, how can I tackle this?
[22:46] <JessicaParker> sudo ?
[22:46] <JessicaParker> alsconf ?
[22:47] <sebsebseb> JessicaParker: ok new Ubuntu user?
[22:47] <JessicaParker> command not found
[22:47] <ortsvorsteher> JessicaParker: maybe alsaconf?
[22:47] <JessicaParker> new to linux a little
[22:47] <JessicaParker> bash: alsaconf: command not found
[22:47] <JessicaParker> abc@abc-laptop:~$
[22:48] <ensay> which version of ubuntu?
[22:48] <JessicaParker> 8.1 latest version
[22:48] <dsdeiz> how do i run ann app from terminal that when closing the terminal the app doesn't close? :S
[22:48] <_VIM_> dsdeiz: put & after
[22:48] <_VIM_> so like firefox &
[22:48] <ensay> sounds seems a big issue with 8.10
[22:49] <JessicaParker> 8.04
[22:49] <JessicaParker> actually
[22:49] <JessicaParker> sorry
[22:49] <mescal> hi al
[22:49] <dsdeiz> _VIM_, it still close :-(
[22:49] <sebsebseb> JessicaParker: I wonder if pulseaudio is messing with your mic
[22:49] <sebsebseb> mescal: hi
[22:49] <KenBW2> can i set a pc to login through ssh?
[22:49] <frostburn> dsdeiz, use nohup
[22:49] <_VIM_> dsdeiz: what app are you trying to start?
[22:49] <prince_jammys> dsdeiz: firefox & disown
[22:50] <sebsebseb> !ssh
[22:50] <prince_jammys> dsdeiz: that 'detaches' firefox from the invoking terminal
[22:50] <ortsvorsteher> KenBW2: sure you have to install ssh-server there. is the pc with linux?
[22:50] <guntbert> dsdeiz: or use gnome screen
[22:50] <JessicaParker> skype
[22:50] <KenBW2> ortsvorsteher: yea i can log in, but im trying to make the server log in to the desktop
[22:50] <Chewie[]> hey, where can i go to set up a second x server? i would ordinarily do soemthing with inittab, but it's phased out.
[22:50] <dsdeiz> for skype, i think i tried removing pulseaudio and installed esound
[22:50] <guntbert> dsdeiz: sorry, didn't read all, forget my statement :)
[22:51] <sebsebseb> JessicaParker: oh right Skype
[22:51] <ensay> i found /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/ubuntu/misc/wireless/acx.ko  but thats not where modprobe picks-up or look to get the modules right?
[22:51] <ortsvorsteher> KenBW2: you will connect from server to the pc?
[22:51] <sebsebseb> JessicaParker: yeah  I helped with someone else helping me :)  a guy get sound working in Skype
[22:51] <sebsebseb> JessicaParker: and Skype heh, I know how people can phone loads of countires for free
[22:52] <mescal> is pm allowed here?
[22:52] <sebsebseb> mescal: yep, but some people might want you to ask them first
[22:52] <KenBW2> ortsvorsteher: no. im currently on the client PC logged in to the server PC via ssh. I was the server to log in in the normal way. can i do that from here or do i need to be sat in front of it
[22:52] <ortsvorsteher> !pm | mescal
[22:52] <KenBW2> ortsvorsteher: i want*
[22:52] <JessicaParker> any ideas ?
[22:52] <JessicaParker> on how to get this working
[22:52] <sebsebseb> JessicaParker: yes maybe
[22:52] <ensay> KenBW2-> rephrase it again...
[22:53] <sebsebseb> JessicaParker: by changing skypes sound settings
[22:53] <ensay> !who | JessicaParker
[22:53] <dsdeiz> nohup works thanks frostburn
[22:53] <dsdeiz> :)
[22:53] <ortsvorsteher> KenBW2: so may my english is to bad. but i think you can do that from your client pc
[22:53] <sebsebseb> JessicaParker: yep Skype has to be configured for the sound device as well
[22:53] <frostburn> =]   you can also use & disown
[22:53] <JessicaParker> sebse i found this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/226510
[22:54] <wolter> sebsebseb, doesn't know a thing.
[22:54] <biggerfisch> Does anyone know how I can run Ubuntu virtual though windows? (and no im not a vista fan but my family like vista)
[22:54] <dsdeiz> which is better? :-?
[22:54] <wolter> biggerfisch, download virtualbox
[22:54] <frostburn> dsdeiz, it's situational
[22:54] <zsquareplusc> someone aware if i can move a window from DISPLAY :0.0 to :0.1 (without restarting the app)? those are separate X screens, but running in the same server.
[22:54] <sebsebseb> wolter: heh you keep on doing that :D
[22:54] <guntbert> biggerfisch: or vmware player
[22:55] <KenBW2> orstversteher, ensay: im at PC 1, which is logged in to PC2 via ssh. I want to issue a command to PC2 in order to make it log in (because I want an application to run that autoruns on login to the GNOE desktop). Is there a command to issue?
[22:55] <ensay> biggerfisch-> or install linux and download vmware server and run vista on it as guest
[22:55] <biggerfisch> wolter I have the computer dual-booted already I just want to run it from vista without restarting
[22:55] <JessicaParker> is there anyone that knows how to get the mic working ?
[22:55] <sebsebseb> JessicaParker: yeah, but  you can't belive everything you read on the web
[22:55] <sebsebseb> JessicaParker: I may be able to help yes
[22:55] <biggerfisch> ensay ill try that
[22:55] <wolter> biggerfisch, you can't as far as I know...
[22:56] <achilles> hello, how can I search for a word within list of files ?
[22:56] <martyfuhry> anyone know about ubuntu 9.04's default wireless stuff? my eeepc had wireless working out of the box on 8.10, but upgrading to 9.04 seemed to break it
[22:56] <ensay> KenBW2-> once you are logged in to PC2 you are in pc 2, so issue any commands as if you were infront of it
[22:56] <sebsebseb> !wireless
[22:56] <wolter> sebsebseb, see pm
[22:56] <martyfuhry> thanks
[22:56] <frostburn> achilles, grep "word" < listoffiles
[22:56] <wolter> people, sebsebseb is a good helper. that's just my salutation.
[22:56] <guntbert> !jaunty | martyfuhry
[22:56] <frostburn> or use xargs
[22:56] <Nalf> Yes, indeed.
[22:56] <wolter> I always say that to bother him.
[22:56] <KenBW2> ensay: no, i need PC2 to be logged in to the GNOME desktop to do what i want
[22:56] <John> Hi all
[22:57] <sebsebseb> JessicaParker: ok  have you tried the sound recorder with the mic?
[22:57] <JessicaParker> yes
[22:57] <achilles> frostburn, thank you, but the list is not a file actually, I need to search for the word like 'DISPLAY_NAME" for each file under /var/ for example
[22:57] <Guest75402> Are there someone in here there knows how to get the firework detail to Linux ubuntu 8.10 ?
[22:57] <sebsebseb> JessicaParker:  Skype is one thing, but  if the mic works it should work in teh sound rocorder
[22:57] <JessicaParker> no it does not record indepdent of skype
[22:57] <wolter> Guest75402, what do you mean?
[22:57] <ensay> KenBW2-> which app do you want run? do you want it to display it to your PC 1 ?
[22:57] <wolter> !tab | JessicaParker
[22:58] <frostburn> achilles, grep "DISPLAY_NAME" /var/*   if you want subdirectories grep -R "DISPLAY_NAME" /var/*
[22:58] <wolter> !who | JessicaParker
[22:58] <Guest75402> i mean, like when you close a window, then there come a firework effect
[22:58] <ensay> KenBW2-> which app do you want run? do you want it to display * to your PC 1 ?
[22:58] <achilles> frostburn, thank you very very much
[22:58] <wolter> JessicaParker, sorry, wrong message :p
[22:58] <KenBW2> ensay: no, i want it to run on PC2 - thats the problem
[22:58] <wolter> !who | Guest75402
[22:58] <ensay> KenBW2-> it will be running on PC 2, but where do you want the display for you to see it?
[22:58] <wolter> Guest75402, well, thats with compiz. You have to enable it.
[22:58] <sebsebseb> JessicaParker: ok I  have  a chat log that I can find,  and pastebin or whatever.   that had all the stuff for getting sound working, as well as Skype,  could be very useful
[22:59] <wolter> Guest75402, is it enabled?
[22:59] <JessicaParker> sebsebseb	how do i know the mic is installed on the machine ?
[22:59] <wolter> JessicaParker, you could download gnome-device-manager
[22:59] <sebsebseb> JessicaParker: is it plugged in?
[22:59] <ensay> lol
[23:00] <guntbert> KenBW2: to clarify: an app runs on one machine (where it uses the cpu) and *may* display on another machine
[23:00] <sebsebseb> JessicaParker: yeah I helped a guy his mic woudn't work at all,  and  then  we got it working
[23:00] <JessicaParker> sebsebseb 	i think it is part of the laptop
[23:00] <Guest75402> (wolter !tab) like this ?
[23:00] <Nalf> I have a Linksys Wireless-G usb network adapter (WUSB54GS). Does anyone know if there is a compatible 64bit driver for it?
[23:00] <KenBW2> ensay: im not bothered whgere it displays - but it's dropbox - i was under the impression it needs to be looged in to GNOK<E for it to run
[23:00] <KenBW2> ensay: GNOME*
[23:01] <sebsebseb> JessicaParker: not all hardware just works  with Linux, but  most stuff will work   just like that, or after some configuring
[23:01] <wolter> Guest75402, no. Just type wolt. Then, without pressing space or enter, press tab. You will see that my name is going to be autocompleted
[23:01] <guntbert> Guest75402: without the parentheses, you type wolt<tab>
[23:01] <Guest75402> wolter: Ohhhh .. in that way, now i get it !
[23:01] <magcius> Is Firefox compiled with PGO on Linux?>
[23:01] <wolter> That's how I don
[23:01] <ensay> KenBW2-> i think your hang up on having to have gnome on... a daemon could be running like a server, accepting commands and dont need to display anything
[23:01] <wolter> t have to type all your name when I say it. Guest75402
[23:02] <Guest75402> wolter: But where do i activate that ?
[23:02] <wolter> Guest75402, I just type Guest7<tab>
[23:02] <TheEdge_> When i play dvd's the movie jump a few seconds time and time again (like fast forwarding) but i have no problem when i play avi files??  anyone how can help
[23:02] <KenBW2> ensay: it integrates with nautilus...
[23:02] <Guest75402> how do i change my name then ?
[23:02] <wolter> Guest75402, System > Preferences > Appearance
[23:02] <_VIM_> the !tab is a godsent for morons who use underscores in their nick, hehe
[23:02] <hfmls> hi
[23:02] <hfmls> [][]
[23:02] <wolter> Guest75402, remember to specify who you are talking to.
[23:02] <Guest75402> wolter: How do i change my name so its gonna be more easy to you ?
[23:02] <ensay> KenBW2-> nautilus purpose of a user to view and see the display, now come again?
[23:02] <Guest75402> yes sorry :)
[23:02] <hfmls> im trying to install a "linux distro"
[23:02] <wolter> Guest75402, are you in xchat?
[23:02] <Guest75402> wolter:  yes sorry
[23:02] <hfmls> is it possible to use e17 interface
[23:02] <JessicaParker> sebsebseb: with the greatest respect your not really telling me anything i know already
[23:02] <hfmls> with ubuntu ?
[23:03] <AndyCrawford> TheEdge_:  that can be heavily dependent on video card and proper drivers.  Do you have the restricted driver for you card enabled?
[23:03] <biggerfisch> If I cant run an existing partition virtual, how do I export the users so I can restore them?
[23:03] <magcius> Guest75402, /nick <username>
[23:03] <sebsebseb> JessicaParker: see my PM
[23:03] <wolter> Guest75402, no problem. Anyway, try typing /nick IamGuest
[23:03] <JessicaParker> sebsebseb: im not looking for a date thanks
[23:03] <magcius> wolter, what are you using?
[23:03] <ensay> biggerfisch-> what? run an existing partition virtual? what do you mean?
[23:03] <Kamikaze> wolter:  Thank you so much ..
[23:03] <wolter> magcius, xchat
[23:03] <wolter> Kamikaze, no problem.
[23:03] <magcius> hfmls, apt-cache search enlightenment
[23:03] <sebsebseb> JessicaParker: I know lol,  I  was going to help you with your sound in pm
[23:03] <TheEdge_> AndyCrawford: i have installed the lastest ATI driver
[23:04] <Nalf> Hahaha.
[23:04] <wolter> Kamikaze, now, are you in appearance?
[23:04] <Kamikaze> wolter:  its my first time im on IRC
[23:04] <Fly_> does the wubi installer destroy any previous windows install or how does it work exactly?
[23:04] <sebsebseb> JessicaParker: I just noticed your probaby from UK like me that's all
[23:04] <Nalf> Laying the moves on, Sebsebseb?
[23:04] <JessicaParker> ok some other questions does apache pidign and skype use the same ports ?
[23:04] <magcius> Fly_, of course not.
[23:04] <Until_It_Sleeps> So, Ubuntu 8.10 64 bit edition isn't supposed to be able to be installed on a 32 bit system right?
[23:04] <Kamikaze> wolter:  no, im not
[23:04] <wolter> Kamikaze, irc is going to be one of your most used tools here.
[23:04] <sebsebseb> JessicaParker: no they don't
[23:04] <_VIM_> Fly that would defeat the purpouse of Wubi
[23:04] <Nalf> Correct, Until_It_Sleeps.
[23:04] <Kamikaze> wolter:  yes i could imagine that :)
[23:04] <JessicaParker> sebsebseb: do you know what the problem is
[23:04] <magcius> Fly_, it installs Ubuntu as a file in C:\
[23:04] <Until_It_Sleeps> :D I haz a 64 bit cpu then.
[23:04] <biggerfisch> ensay: I have ubuntu installed on a seperate partition and I wanted to know if i could run vista virtually from ubuntu or the other way around
[23:04] <magcius> !hibernate
[23:05] <JessicaParker> what ports does pidgin and skype use ?
[23:05] <ensay> biggerfisch-> you can have ubuntu running as your host and have vista as your guest
[23:05] <Stylee> is there any tool to flash bios with CD? I have a GA-ex58-ud4p
[23:05] <whip2> dmn, ive got it :) now lets see what happends next, when i install linux on that shitty thing :)
[23:05] <biggerfisch> ensay: how?
[23:05] <Fly_> _VIM_: so is wubi an option if I do want to switch to ubuntu? or is it just to test ubuntu out?
[23:05] <wolter> Kamikaze, well, I understand you want your windows to burn down when you close them, right?
[23:05] <sebsebseb> JessicaParker: I have an idea how you can fix it possibily,  but I only have the commands and  what to do with graphical stuff in an old chat log at the moment hummmmmmm
[23:05] <Kamikaze> wolter:  Now i am
[23:05] <biggerfisch> ensay: what program?
[23:05] <_VIM_> it's just to test really
[23:05] <Kamikaze> wolter:  yes thats right
[23:05] <ensay> biggerfisch-> you have ubuntu already installed?
[23:06] <guntbert> Stylee: aks in #hardware :)
[23:06] <JessicaParker> sebsebseb: give me the commands
[23:06] <wolter> Fly_, its an option, but I recommend to just try with the livecd before installing anything.
[23:06] <JessicaParker> i will try it
[23:06] <biggerfisch> ensay:  ya i be running it now :)
[23:06] <ensay> biggerfisch-> vmware server will be the virtual machine
[23:06] <wolter> Kamikaze, ok, go to the Visual Effects tab.
[23:06] <wolter> Kamikaze, choose Extra.
[23:06] <Kamikaze> wolter:  yes im there
[23:06] <biggerfisch> ensay: whats the package name to install via apt-get?
[23:07] <magcius> Kamikaze, sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[23:07] <Kamikaze> wolter:  its on the extra button.
[23:07] <Kamikaze> wolter:  okay
[23:07] <Fly_> last qustion P3, 600mHz, 256Mb ran; will ubuntu work or do I go for Xubuntu?
[23:07] <ensay> biggerfisch-> i dont know if its in the repositories, i think you have to download it from vmware.. check via  apt-cache search vmware
[23:07] <Scunizi> Fly_: xubuntu
[23:07] <biggerfisch> ensay:  ok me try that
[23:07] <whip2> fly:will work, strip it down a bit though
[23:07] <Scunizi> fly but you could try the ubuntu alternate installer
[23:08] <Kamikaze> wolter:  yes i have done that in terminal now.
[23:08] <ensay> i found /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/ubuntu/misc/wireless/acx.ko  but thats not where modprobe picks-up or look to get the modules right?
[23:08] <Fly_> ok thanx people
[23:08] <Fly_> clear
[23:08] <whip2> or fluxbox :)
[23:09] <Kamikaze> wolter:  what then ?
[23:09] <whip2> G*d dmn that looks nasty.. Win on MY lap-top..
[23:09] <Kamikaze> magcius:  yes and what now :) ?
[23:10] <biggerfisch> ensay: i got it installed ithink but i cant find the command to run it
[23:10] <magcius> Kamikaze, Start->Preferences->CompizConfig
[23:10] <dibblego> canI configure network-manager to find a network for all users?
[23:10] <biggerfisch> vm-toolbox
[23:10] <biggerfisch> sry
[23:10] <magcius> Why the hell did I say Start?
[23:10] <biggerfisch> wrong window
[23:10] <ensay> biggerfisch-> nope, vmware is the name
[23:10] <magcius> I need a kick.
[23:10] <wolter_> Kamikaze, sorry.. Had to relog.
[23:10] <biggerfisch> ensay: no package by that name
[23:10] <ensay> biggerfisch-> i dont know if its in the repositories, i think you have to download it from vmware.
[23:10] <Kamikaze> magcius:  Thank you so much man !
[23:10] <biggerfisch> ens
[23:11] <biggerfisch> ensay:  ok will do
[23:11] <biggerfisch> ensay: ty
[23:11] <Kamikaze> wolter:  no problem at all my friend ..
[23:11] <webby> Whats a good alternative to totem....? it doesn't even allow you to scroll backwards with movs in the browser :\
[23:11] <wolter> Kamikaze, so, where are you at? I see magcius has helped you a little now.
[23:11] <ensay> dibblego-> what do you mean? wireless ?  for nm to find an open AP ?
[23:11] <whip2> mplayer?
[23:11] <Kamikaze> wolter:  but another guy helped me so now i just got installed Compiz
[23:11] <bazhang> webby, many enjoy vlc
[23:11] <magcius> wolter, Kamikaze, sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[23:11] <whip2> xine..
[23:12] <Kamikaze> magcius:  Yes i have done that, thanks :)
[23:12] <magcius> Kamikaze, I was showing wolter what I told you to do.
[23:12] <Kamikaze> wolter:  Then i need to activate the effect in there somwhere , right :) ?
[23:12] <ensay> webby-> and with vlc, you may even discover tv shoutcast
[23:12] <Kamikaze> magcius:  ohh okay :)
[23:12] <idefine> anyone know of a good gnome-applet to save ssh sessions?
[23:13] <magcius> Kamikaze, on Window Close?
[23:13] <wolter> Kamikaze, yes.
[23:13] <magcius> Kamikaze, Go to the Animations settings
[23:13] <ensay> bazhang-> you recall where the kernel finds the modules it loads at boot?  /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers ? or another dir?
[23:13] <wolter> Kamikaze, look for the magic lamp icon labeled "Effects"
[23:13] <webby> ensay:  so just aptitude install vlc ?
[23:13] <magcius> Kamikaze, Close Animation.
[23:13] <wolter> Animations, i mean.
[23:13] <webby> ensay: and the moz plugin?
[23:13] <ensay> webby-> try it
[23:13] <wolter> Kamikaze, and then, as magcius told you, go to the Close Animations tab.
[23:14] <Med1a> Hey
[23:14] <Med1a> i have a problem ...
[23:14] <whip2> hoo
[23:14] <magcius> wolter, uhhh... for some reason the burn effect is missing for me.
[23:14] <webby> ensay: okay will do brb
[23:14] <Med1a> whe i try connect to ubuntu from windows ... the VNC client say : No security type suitable for RFB 3.3 supported ???
[23:14] <Med1a> what the problem ??
[23:15] <olato> #list
[23:15] <Fly_> is it possible to install ubuntu from an usb disk or a minimalistic kernel, or anything that doesn't require me to burn a cd?$
[23:15] <Kamikaze> wolter:  im searching :)
[23:15] <Karlos> hello, i need help with my memory stick please
[23:15] <whip2> Med: what th e question?
[23:15] <Med1a> whe i try connect to ubuntu from windows ... the VNC client say : No security type suitable for RFB 3.3 supported ???
[23:15] <ortsvorsteher> just ask Karlos
[23:15] <Kamikaze> wolter:  yes im there now
[23:15] <Med1a> connection filled ...
[23:15] <ensay> i found /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/ubuntu/misc/wireless/acx.ko  but thats not where modprobe picks-up or look to get the modules right at boot time?
[23:16] <whip2> Med: why would u want to do that?
[23:16] <wolter> Kamikaze, ok.
[23:17] <Kamikaze> wolter:  yes im there now, what should i do know ?
[23:17] <wolter> Kamikaze, just to check. When you close a window, does it drag away from you?
[23:17] <Kamikaze> wolter:  year you can say that :)
[23:17] <wolter> Kamikaze, you should find "items" under the Close Animation tab.
[23:17] <Fly_> is it possible to install ubuntu from an usb disk or a minimalistic kernel, or anything that doesn't require me to burn a cd? it would be a great help, since i don't have a writeable cd at hand at the moment
[23:17] <wolter> Kamikaze, the default is Glide 2.
[23:17] <Med1a> whip2: I want connect to my ubuntu from windows ...
[23:18] <Karlos> i need help, i plug into my laptop hp dv6604nr with ubuntu, in the socket u can read sd-ms/pro-mmc-xd but i cannot see the pictures or maybe i don know where is it
[23:18] <Nalf> Med1a, you're not running ubuntu and windows on the same box are you?
[23:18] <Kamikaze> wolter:  i cant fin a "item" button, but i have found the Glide 2
[23:19] <whip2> med: i just cant see any sense in that..
[23:19] <wolter> Ok. These items are no buttons, but rather rows. When you click on them, you should be able to edit them. Try to do so.
[23:19] <Kamikaze> wolter:  okay
[23:20] <Kamikaze> wolter:  i have clicked on the Glide 2 and i can edit it, if it was that you were thinking about
[23:20] <wolter> Kamikaze, found it? If you did, you will be able to change the animation from a dropdown menu. Tell me if you find the Burn effect.
[23:20] <jimdb_> Does anyone know how to copy only those files that haven't already been copied?
[23:20] <tarfax> whip2 whats wrong with wanting to be able to connect to ubuntu from windows?
[23:20] <whip2> Wait til Windows reboots, then install Lin" :)
[23:20] <Devedse> what is a good mail server for ubuntu? (easy to install for someone who isnt really expert)
[23:20] <EvilRick> I "cp -a" /var to a new drive and then mount that drive in fstab and symlink /var to /mountpoint/var . When I start up the system stops after klogd (while starting dbus I think)
[23:20] <EvilRick> any ideas?
[23:20] <Fly_> jimdb_: rsync ?
[23:20] <jimdb_> No
[23:20] <EvilRick> Devedse: ubuntu comes with exim by default
[23:21] <Kamikaze> wolter: No i simply cant find it
[23:21] <EvilRick> Devedse: dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config
[23:21] <Devedse> EvilRick: how do you start that
[23:21] <Devedse> thanx
[23:21] <Fly_> jimdb_: cp -n ?
[23:21] <wolter> Kamikaze, ok. That means you have Animation addons disabled.
[23:21] <EvilRick> or exim-config I forget
[23:21] <wolter> Enable it. It's next to Animations, where you are in.
[23:21] <Kamikaze> wolter:  Hm how do i enable it then ?
[23:22] <wolter> Kamikaze, just check the item, and get back to where we were.
[23:22] <magcius> Kamikaze, it's under Animations Add-On
[23:22] <Devedse> EvilRick, it says that exim4-config is not installed :o
[23:23] <geirha> EvilRick: set the mount-point to /var instead.
[23:23] <wolter> Kamikaze, done yet?
[23:23] <EvilRick> geirha: I would byut teh disk also contains /home
[23:24] <Kamikaze> wolter:  alright , wait a minut, im still here in the "Close Animation" and my mouse is over the Glide 2 , fomr there i frozed , i cant come any further
[23:24] <Devedse> ALSO
[23:24] <Devedse> wtf caps crashing
[23:24] <geirha> EvilRick: Hm, then use mount-binding
[23:24] <EvilRick> I want to keep /home and /var on a seperate disk
[23:24] <Devedse> EvilRick, also exim-config doesnt work
[23:24] <Kamikaze> wolter:  i couldnt ifnd any of the "item" you said
[23:24] <EvilRick> Devedse: apt-get install exim4
[23:24] <Devedse> k
[23:24] <wolter> Kamikaze, Animation Add-ons ?
[23:24] <magcius> Kamikaze, go back to the main screen and check Animation Add-On, then close and reopen CompizConfig
[23:24] <wolter> Kamikaze, its next to the Animations section.
[23:25] <Kamikaze> wolter:  yes i found the animation add on
[23:25] <Kamikaze> magcius:  Yes i found it
[23:25] <magcius> Kamikaze, then close and reopen CompizConfig
[23:25] <wolter> Kamikaze, is it checked?
[23:26] <Kamikaze> wolter:  ohhh ... no it wasnt checked !
[23:26] <Kamikaze> wolter:  but it is now .
[23:26] <magcius> Kamikaze, then close and reopen CompizConfig
[23:26] <Kamikaze> wolter:  and then go back to where we were before after i have closed and open it ?
[23:26] <Kamikaze> magcius: okay
[23:26] <magcius> Kamikaze, now, when you go to Animations, there will be extra animations, like Burn.
[23:26] <wolter> Kamikaze, ok. Now you should be able to activate the burn effect.
[23:27] <wolter> Kamikaze, well, you had no need to close and open.
[23:27] <Kamikaze> wolter:  okay ill check
[23:28] <EvilRick> geirha: what do you mean by mount-binding?
[23:28] <magcius> wolter, I needed to restart CCSM for it to take effect.
[23:28] <wolter> Hm..
[23:28] <Kamikaze> wolter:  YES i see it, i see burn and other new "items"
[23:28] <istvan_> how can i split each page of a pdf into an image?
[23:28] <wolter> Kamikaze, nice.
[23:28] <wolter> Try it.
[23:28] <Kamikaze> wolter:  okay ill try it :)
[23:29] <whip2> istva: depens if u got the rights..
[23:29] <istvan_> I do
[23:29] <Karlos> i need help, i plug into my laptop hp dv6604nr with ubuntu, in the socket u can read sd-ms/pro-mmc-xd but i cannot see the pictures or maybe i don know where is it
[23:29] <Kamikaze> wolter:  it doesnt do anything, i have crossed the burn and cloed the compiz
[23:29] <istvan_> whip2: I downloaded the pdf, but i created it online. with gimp I can open each page as an image, but is there a script to save all of the files in gimp?
[23:29] <Kamikaze> wolter:  but when i close a window it aint burning
[23:29] <wolter> Kamikaze, hm.. did you select it as the close animation?
[23:30] <wolter> Kamikaze, does the window still drag away?
[23:30] <whip2> istv:dunno.. never had to do so..
[23:30] <Kamikaze> wolter:  now i have set it under the close but it aint doing it, yes its still just drag away
[23:31] <wolter> Kamikaze, find every glide 2 and tell me for which animation it is selected.
[23:31] <adante> how can i install linux if the boot cd keeps erroring out?
[23:32] <whip2> adanta:netboot
[23:32] <taterade> anyon
[23:32] <adante> whip2: wow, no simpler way?
[23:32] <Kamikaze> wolter:  its selected only under "Close animation"
[23:32] <taterade> there?
[23:32] <blue112> Hello, a friend of my has some problem with his wifi card : Once he try to make it work on Ubuntu (live cd), it doesn't work anywhere (even on Windows). He has an realtek rtl8187. Can someone help ,
[23:32] <aboucher> can anyone tell me if im doing some right or wrong with edubuntu ltsp http://pastebin.com/d19d11746
[23:33] <wolter> Kamikaze, no other glide 2?
[23:33] <wolter> Kamikaze, hm.. you should be getting the burn effect I think.
[23:33] <Kamikaze> wolter:  There are one "item" there also has the name Glide 2 should i activate that ?
[23:34] <wolter> Kamikaze, what
[23:34] <jimdb_> Fly_: No not the solution. Cp -r -u is more precise
[23:34] <wolter> what's it's name?
[23:34] <whip2> adante: u could allways tyr to use use a GOOD cd..
[23:34] <adante> whip2: hm, i checked the cd for defects using the inbuilt checker and it is fine
[23:34] <adante> whip2: also i used this cd to install ubuntu on other systems
[23:35] <Kamikaze> wolter:  Under animations, and in Close animations, there i have crossed "Burn"
[23:35] <wolter> Oh...
[23:35] <jimdb_> adante: Replace the cd drive
[23:35] <Kamikaze> wolter:  were there other things there needed to be crossed to ?
[23:35] <whip2> adante:then theres something wrong either with your drive or hmm..
[23:35] <wolter> I now know what you are doing. You are enablling burn for the random effect option.
[23:35] <administrator_> hao
[23:35] <sebsebseb> blue112: the wireless won't work in Windows?
[23:36] <blue112> It doesn't, sebsebseb.
[23:36] <Fly_> jimdb_: indeed the -u option is better :-)
[23:36] <adante> jimdb_: wow, it's a laptop drive so i'd have to verify it is indeed broken
[23:36] <Kamikaze> wolter:  Yes :) ?
[23:36] <Serge> hi
[23:36] <SPF> gcc -c                       Compile and assemble, but do not link. What does it mean and why doesn't it work?
[23:36] <sebsebseb> blue112: ok well that right there is a problem,   and you can't just expect it to work in Ubuntu either, because wireless tends to need to be configured in Ubuntu
[23:36] <aboucher> can someone tell me if im doing something right or wrong with this
[23:36] <aboucher> http://pastebin.com/d19d11746
[23:36] <sebsebseb> blue112: if it does not work in Windowds,  something has gone wrong with the wireless hardware, or  you got a bad Windows wireless driver?
[23:36] <blue112> sebsebseb: I know that.
[23:37] <wolter> You have to edit the row/item/thing that's below Animation Selection > Open Effect
[23:37] <sebsebseb> blue112: get it working in Windows, and then you can do Ubuntu
[23:37] <blue112> sebsebseb: The wifi uses to work well in Windows before.
[23:37] <sebsebseb> blue112: does it work at all in Windows?
[23:37] <mylisto> anyone have any idea what kind of hard drives dell uses?
[23:38] <Dr_willis> whatever they can get on sale, or have a contract with for that month i imagine
[23:38] <wolter> Kamikaze, not check the items under "Random Effects.
[23:38] <blue112> It doesn't work.
[23:38] <Kamikaze> wolter:  okay i have uncheked burn under random effects now
[23:38] <aboucher> :-(
[23:38] <sebsebseb> blue112: ok  well then get it working in Windows, and then do  Ubuntu as I said.   and so go to #windows
[23:38] <jimdb_> adante: Either external USB cd or do a wubi install if you have windows on the comp
[23:38] <Kamikaze> wolter:  now what are you saying, what should i do now ?
[23:38] <sebsebseb> blue112: Ubuntu suppourt here, not Windows
[23:39] <Kamikaze> wolter:  what should i edit ?
[23:39] <wolter> Kamikaze, now edit the item under "Animation Selection" with the Glide 2 Open Effect
[23:39] <geirha> EvilRick: sudo mount -o bind /mountpoint/var /var
[23:39] <jimdb_>  
[23:39] <xdfz> Hi all, I have no sounds since 2hours, it's very strange, someone have an idea ?
[23:40] <blue112> xdfz: pulseaudio ?
[23:40] <Kamikaze> wolter:  alright, i have right clicked on "Glide2" and im in to edit it now.
[23:40] <magcius> Has anybody in here seriously gotten Hibernate to work?
[23:40] <Kamikaze> wolter:  there stands "close effect" Glide 2
[23:40] <Kamikaze> wolter:  is it that i need to change ?
[23:40] <magcius> Kamikaze, change it to Burn.
[23:40] <wolter> Kamikaze, Yes. Swap it for Burn.
[23:40] <xdfz> Spike~ > pulseaudio
[23:40] <xdfz> W: ltdl-bind-now.c: Failed to find original dlopen loader.
[23:40] <xdfz> E: pid.c: Daemon already running.
[23:40] <xdfz> E: main.c: pa_pid_file_create() failed.
[23:40] <FloodBot3> xdfz: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:41] <Kamikaze> wolter:  WOLTER !
[23:41] <jimdb_> magcius: Ive never gotten it to work on window properly
[23:41] <wolter> Kamikaze, YES!
[23:41] <Kamikaze> wolter:  Thank you so much man, i really really ow you !
[23:41] <wolter> Kamikaze, you ow me nothing.
[23:41] <wolter> Kamikaze, now, the ubuntu guys owe me an @ubuntu email =D
[23:42] <Fly_> clear
[23:42] <LoneRanger> hehe
[23:42] <magcius> nVidia breaks Hibernate.
[23:42] <Kamikaze> wolter:  well.. what can i say, thanks for giving you the time to help me, there are not many as you !
[23:42] <sebsebseb> wolter: nope you got to work for them  or you won't get one
[23:42] <ScottG489> The hibernate that comes with ubuntu seems to hibernate ok but then when i boot back up it just seems to do a normal boot. If I use s2disk it starts to hibernate and goes to a virtual terminal like screen and says its hibernating but then after a minute or so it just brings me back to the GUI
[23:43] <wolter> sebsebseb, I work for them.
[23:43] <sebsebseb> wolter: Ubuntu is  mainly so popular, because of the community,  not Canocial altough there marketting and deals  they do and such are pretty good
[23:43] <wolter> sebsebseb, look at this page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Website/JauntyCountdownBanners
[23:43] <sebsebseb> wolter: it would be nice to work for them, but they only hire the best of the best
[23:43] <wolter> sebsebseb, go to bottom and see just one of my contributions
[23:43] <Kamikaze> wolter:  haha yes they do :D
[23:43] <wolter> Kamikaze, hah, thanks!
[23:44] <wolter> Kamikaze, it would be nice if you wrote a testimonial so I can post it on my ubuntu profile page!
[23:44] <wolter> Kamikaze, that would help me :p
[23:44] <register> http://pastebin.com/d19d11746
[23:44] <magcius> wolter, that's not the same as working for Canonical.
[23:44] <sebsebseb> wolter: I wonder if all the hype about jaunty will be worth it this time.  I mean last few releases of Ubuntu so similar
[23:44] <wolter> magcius, you don't have to work for canonical to have an @ubuntu email.
[23:44] <Kamikaze> wolter:  Just tell me how to do, and i will do it !
[23:45] <register> can someone tell me if im doing this right or wrong for a edubuntu ltsp server
[23:45] <sebsebseb> wolter: oh so the @ubuntu.com  email wasn't a joke?
[23:45] <magcius> wolter, hmm, I thought you did.
[23:45] <register> http://pastebin.com/d19d11746
[23:45] <sebsebseb> register: cool man, where you isntalling Edubuntu?
[23:46] <wolter> Kamikaze, hm.. just write in gedit (text editor), then I'll give you my email so you can send it to me. It would be good if you gave me your email so I can use it as a proof.
[23:46] <register> at my school there windows network is messed up especially with printing so i showed then edubuntu
[23:46] <register> sorry im a slow typer
[23:46] <sebsebseb> register: I  guess  I can't   help with your issue, but  I would like to talk to you in pm about getting edubuntu in schools
[23:47] <wolter> !membership
[23:47] <register> i'll pm you
[23:47] <MacAnthony> I'm having an issue with my wireless network - iwlist wlan0 scan doesn't find any networks
[23:47] <sebsebseb> wolter: well you know   one of my address's is already pretty cool.  (don't tell them here, I get way to much spam as it is to it)
[23:47] <whip2> mac:try another one
[23:47] <sebsebseb> wolter: I think  @mozilla.com  would be pretty cool for an email  address
[23:48] <MacAnthony> it was working until yesterday (my laptop ran out of battery and shut down)
[23:48] <MacAnthony> whip2: try another what?
[23:48] <wolter> sebsebseb, hah
[23:48] <wolter> sebsebseb, I guess you prefer a seb@mozilla.com?
[23:48] <wolter> I want badly my wolterh@ubuntu.com
[23:48] <whip2> it wouldnt be bad eithe ..@caos.org :)
[23:48] <MacAnthony> wlan0 is my wireless interface according to ifconfig
[23:49] <Weez> on my previous ubuntu install i had a utility that allowed me to stop gdm by checking and unchecking the gdm box does anyone know whats its called? i forgot
[23:49] <Cyrano_De> MacAnthony:  What kind of wireless card is it?  If you do an lsmod|grep ieee80211 does it return anything?
[23:49] <whip2> mac: wi-fi quesser ?-)
[23:49] <MacAnthony> Cyrano_De: it's an intel card and it's setup correctly
[23:49] <MacAnthony> worked fine for 3 months
[23:49] <Cyrano_De> So the kernel module is still being loaded?
[23:49] <whip2> naah.. another driver or something.. so  slleeeepy..
[23:50] <Cyrano_De> MacAnthony: ipwXXXX?
[23:50] <mezy> does bt4 come with an archiver?
[23:50] <YesMan> hi guys, I'm using nautilus to mount a remote folder. How to change a file in a remote folder to 777? I tried to change the permissions from the properties but i can't see them!
[23:50] <whip2> mac: chipset?
[23:51] <MacAnthony> it's using the iwlagn module
[23:51] <whip2> mac: what chipset do u have?
[23:52] <codeuser> Weez: that seems impossible. GDM is what allows checkboxes to be shown. You can't kill it without your checkboxes going 'poof'
[23:52] <MacAnthony> whip2: I get this from lshw: PRO/Wireless 4965 AG or AGN [Kedron] Network Connection
[23:53] <ScottG489> The hibernate that comes with ubuntu seems to hibernate ok but then when i boot back up it just seems to do a normal boot. If I use s2disk it starts to hibernate and goes to a virtual terminal like screen and says its hibernating but then after a minute or so it just brings me back to the GUI
[23:53] <whip2> mac: doesnt  tell very much..
[23:53] <keres> what are the flags to unzip with unrar?
[23:54] <keres> -x<what>?
[23:54] <codeuser> ScottG489: Is there sufficient room in your swap for a hibernation?
[23:54] <Lint01> all rar switches are optional
[23:54] <ensay> i found /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/ubuntu/misc/wireless/acx.ko  but thats not where modprobe picks-up or look to get the modules right at boot time?
[23:54] <MacAnthony> whip2: sorry, it just worked and I don't have to mess with the network stuff much
[23:54] <keres> Lint01: how do you use it then
[23:55] <ensay> acx  TI chips is not loading properly at boot time
[23:55] <MacAnthony> can you tell me what command will give you the info you need?
[23:55] <xdfz> I have no sounds, someone can help me please :(
[23:55] <slestak> whats up guys.  i am currently booted into a liveusb env created with 8.10 usb-creator.  i added 128M persistant storage to the live usb config
[23:55] <hfmls> hi, just installed ubuntu, i use ati radeon 3200 hd , onboard, should i install http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx?type=2.7&product=2.7.4.3.3.3.1&lang=English this?
[23:56] <whip2> mac: id run a DSL-N or something little live-cd or usb, and then poke around .. :)
[23:56] <Lint01> unrar x myfile.zip /path/to/extract
[23:56] <slestak> i would like to save a couple of extra files before proceeding with reinstalling, but cannot figure out where the 128M of persistent storage is mounted, when booted in liveusb
[23:56] <rww> hfmls: No, you should use the Restricted Drivers manager in Ubuntu.
[23:56] <hfmls> ok
[23:56] <hfmls> tx
[23:56] <codeuser> hfmls: hey, have you tried going to System -> Administration -> Restricted Drivers
[23:56] <codeuser> hfmls: like rww told you...
[23:56] <Lint01> or unrar x -r  myfile.zip /path/to/extract
[23:56] <Cyrano_De> MacAnthony: /exit
[23:57] <ScottG489> codeuser: pretty sure. i have 4gb of swap and 4gb RAM
[23:57] <ensay> what directory does modprobe looks at do load modules?
[23:57] <awuja> Hi everyone. I have installed Ubuntu and lost my Linux virginity.. anyway stupidly I decided to delete my Windoze Part... I have messsed with a few things on Ubuntu and need to do a fresh install. However, my CD drive is broken and I only have a USB CD Drive or Pen drive to boot from... my BIOS only lets me boot USB-FDD but doesn't recognise either device.. what can I do or am I doing wrong? Please help :)
[23:57] <hfmls> xcodeuser i have this in portuguese, is it a green icon with a lock ?
[23:57] <hfmls> codeuser
[23:57] <whip2> Why on Earth so much swap??
[23:57] <codeuser> hfmls:  yes
[23:57] <hfmls> tx
[23:58] <ScottG489> whip2: So I can hibernate correctly
[23:58] <sebsebseb> awuja: what has happended to Ubuntu?
[23:58] <hfmls> how can i install e17 in ubuntu
[23:58] <codeuser> ScottG489: From what I have read, you need to have 8gb to hibernate 4gb ram.
[23:58] <codeuser> ScottG489: Red Hat link: http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/enterprise/RHEL-4-Manual/sysadmin-guide/ch-swapspace.html
[23:58] <whip2> 2GB should do it nice enough.. but everybody does it own way.. :)
[23:58] <ScottG489> whip2: The ubuntu swap faq actually recommends up to 2x my RAM for swap but since i had 4GB of RAM that seemed like a lot
[23:59] <ensay> what directory does modprobe looks at to load modules?
[23:59] <codeuser> ScottG489: Ubuntuforum link: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=229959
[23:59] <cagliostro> pippo
[23:59] <xdfz> I have no sounds, someone can help me please :(
[23:59] <sebsebseb> !sound
[23:59] <Dracie> what filesystem should i use on a ssd?
[23:59] <ScottG489> codeuser: I have slightly more swap then RAM actually
[23:59] <Dracie> that is in 8.10
[23:59] <sebsebseb> Ext3
[23:59] <whip2> scott: read some more about lin.. 4GB swap is just a waist
[23:59] <codeuser> xdfz: double click your volume control and make sure that your PCM is up
[23:59] <ensay> Dracie -> for what purpose?
[23:59] <DIFH-iceroot> Dracie: ext2