[00:00] ah i see. this is giving me the option of the restricted drivers. but first i'll just remove the conf and log out/in, i'd rather use the open ones... [00:00] brb [00:00] jockey-kde should be found in k-menu [00:01] ok, then drop jockey, as thats for the binary driver... [00:08] hey folks, what browser do you guys use most? do you find that it can handle lots of open tabs, an/or lots of tabs with apps (music, video, java, flash, etc) ? [00:09] josh-l: I use Konqi for most cases but i dont do much music / video... [00:09] I recently tried kubuntu (for kde) again which I try every major ubuntu release, and found the browsing the only thing that was very lacking for me... if it werent for that I would have kept kde [00:10] you can install any browser on kubuntu josh-l [00:10] is KDE4.2 the official stream or not? [00:10] bazhang: I know... i found firefox, konqueror, and opera all to be the same... [00:10] not yet [00:11] when will it be? [00:11] jaunty [00:11] ie 9.04 [00:11] unstable with many open tabs, and/or many open web apps [00:11] but I can still install it, right? [00:11] are there any potential problems?? [00:11] josh-l, then likely bad extensions, no flashblock, no adblock etc [00:12] bilicki, rave reviews so far; though I have no trouble with 4.1 [00:12] what do you mean by bad extensions? And I shouldnt need flashblock or adblock to have 5 open tabs 3 - 5 open with apps [00:12] what's the command for installing amarok 2.0 [00:13] i am lazy to look it up :) [00:13] amarok-kde4 [00:13] bilicki, but then again worksforme is not a good idea to go by :) [00:13] or something? [00:13] josh-l: are you using adobe flash? [00:13] josh-l: if so, that's probably the issue [00:13] josh-l: that plugin is really unstable. it crashes, the browser'll usually go with it [00:13] josh-l, extensions that use way too many cpu cycles/badly coded [00:13] maco I believe so, whatever kubuntu-restricted-extras installs, also I should mention I use 64bit os [00:14] yes, it is amarok-kde4 [00:14] i am a genius :) [00:14] i use NoScript and don't have any problems with crashes. then again, when i didnt use NoScript i still found Firefox to be much more stable than others said [00:16] i guess theres no real reason to be a purist (maybe just OCD) but i never liked mixing gtk+qt either way around [00:16] there is something to make gtk apps more qt-ish though [00:16] that was my aesthetic excuse for not using kde apps before [00:16] its ugly though [00:17] hardly a reason not to use ff though imo [00:17] the bottoms of the tabs get all cut off and the edges of the tabs aren't redrawn and ugh [00:17] am i right to think there is no real reason (non aesthetic reason) to not mix gtk and qt? [00:17] you are correct [00:19] okay i'll give kubuntu another try by installing kubuntu-desktop, if soomehow ican get through the browsiing issue i'll rfeinstall with kubuntu cd (i know not necessary, but i'm a purist) [00:19] and ocd [00:20] wow I havent called offtopic in here yet. [00:20] when i make changes to the panel like add a shortcut for a program it is not there after i shutdown the pc and then log back in.....any ideas? [00:21] boboso: lsattr [00:21] bah [00:21] lsattr ~/.kde/share/config/plasma-appletsrc [00:22] and ls -l on the same file [00:23] !nvidia [00:23] For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto [00:25] maco: after the lsattr ~/.kde/share/config/plasma-appletsrc and the ls -l i get plasma-appletsrc in that folder is that what i need? [00:25] is it just me, or does adept crash a lot? [00:25] boboso: im asking for the output === ka_waii is now known as kanon-mat === alejandro is now known as alejandro_ === alejandro_ is now known as alejandro__ [00:32] maco: http://pastebin.com/d20748980 [00:32] hello. does any one know a solution for using the gps of a mobile phone in kubuntu? [00:32] boboso: what about the ls -l one? === root is now known as Guest59355 [00:33] maco: http://pastebin.com/d39d1bec1 [00:35] boboso: all the permissions are fine, so i dont know [00:37] k ty [00:48] Okay, how do I get the menu bar back in the chat window of Kopete? [00:48] No matter where I right-click, there's no choice for bringing it back, once it' [00:48] s hidden [00:51] try Ctrl-M [01:01] hello, i just updated from hardy heron to 8.10. all is going well, except that I can no longer fully connect to my vpn server with kvpnc. The server accepts the connection, and in fact everything is fine except the very last step: the server tells the client what its new default route should be, but the client never actually does so, and just sits there. any ideas? [01:18] Does anyone know if it is possible to share the gps of a Nokia 6220 via USB with my laptop? [01:24] buenas noches a tod@s... [01:24] una consulta del intrepid ibex.. [01:25] !es [01:25] En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es. [01:25] checking... [01:26] done and sorry, I'm checking kids's homework, hehe; thanks anyway... [01:30] hi all [01:30] how do I stop programs from autostarting on boot?? [01:30] hey is a non-experimetal kde 4.2 set to release or will it be just for jaunty [01:30] for intrepid [01:32] cause you can enable it via the ppa repo but are going to deliver for intrepid through the non-expermimental repos or will kde 4.2 just be for jaunty [01:32] how come when I move video players around and use alt-tab the video I'm playing is a black box? [01:35] hola [01:36] !es [01:36] En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es. [01:36] hello [01:37] hi [01:37] there are not more channels in this server? [01:38] thousands of them [01:38] !googleearth [01:38] Google Earth is now available, for free (only as in price), for Linux, too. To download it see http://earth.google.com/download-earth.html - A package for Ubuntu is available in the !Medibuntu repository [01:38] !Medibuntu [01:38] medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org [01:38] how can I get a list of channels? [01:39] and open your eyes [01:39] ? [01:40] how can I get a list of channels? [01:40] type /list [01:40] err not the best way [01:41] that will list them all [01:41] if using xchat right clic on the channel window and choose Server - List channels [01:41] thanks to both [01:42] try /msg alis help [01:42] vicent, ^^ [01:43] hello, i updated from hardy to 8.10. the only issue I'm having is that despite after a modprobe tun , I simply do not have a tun0 (or any other tun*) network device. this is in stark contrast to hardy heron, does anyone know if I'm doing something wrong? [01:45] vicent, it will still be a big list for example if you /msg alis list #ubuntu-* [01:46] but nothing near /list which may crash your irc client [01:47] crash? i've done it right now [01:47] :-? [01:48] the command /msg alis list is what freenode staff recommend [01:49] !sources [01:49] The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories [02:01] When using foremost, how can I search for 'mp3' files? It won't let me. I have done a numerous amount of other filetypes, but MP3 doesn't seem to be allowed for an odd reason. [02:03] http://dpaste.com/8404/ [02:03] yikes [02:03] i can't have that! [02:04] ibuffy: So DON"T do that :-) [02:04] i didn't :P but... i need to remove mysql [02:04] reinstall it [02:05] i have a feeling i'm still going to get that suggestion if i try using apt again :| [02:05] ibuffy: Then try apt-get --reinstall install mysql-something [02:06] ibuffy: Why you think you need to re-install it? [02:14] http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3101481 [02:14] could someone with 8.10, who also isn't using a tun network device, do me a favor? sudo modprobe -rav tun ; modprobe -v tun ; dmesg | grep tun | tail ; sudo ifconfig -a | grep tun [02:14] this fixes most things broken by apt [02:15] because when I load the tun modules, I get no tun0 (or any other) tun device. this is preventing me from being a VPN client. [02:20] ok if an update screws up something e.g color of my panel how do I set it kde back to defaults rm -rf ~/.kde erases to much stuff [02:20] or mv ~/.kde ~/.kde.old === zxt is now known as zxt_ === zxt_ is now known as zxt [02:46] Can some one help me fix KDM so I can login? (I'm using Ubuntu with KDE 4.1) [02:50] animal32cm [02:50] silentContender: Why can't you login in the first place? [02:52] draik_, I could not tell you. The shell won't even let me log in [02:53] draik_, I turned on my computer earlier and everything was fine. I install couple packages and turned it off. Now, I can't log in [02:53] HAI SEXY PEOPLE :) [02:54] josh_, ?? [02:54] silentContender: How big is your HDD? [02:54] 80GB [02:54] draik is filthy :P ;) [02:54] josh_, stop that [02:54] josh_: LOL :p [02:54] bazhang; spoilsport ;D [02:54] !ot > josh_ [02:54] josh_, please see my private message [02:55] silentContender: can you get a command prompt? [02:55] bazhang you bully. leave me alone ! [02:55] silentContender: is it possible your HD is 100% full? [02:55] draik_, Only a root shell in recovery. [02:55] Slartibartfast: That's what I'm getting at [02:55] josh_, this is support; take chat elsewhere [02:55] just asking [02:56] Slartibartfast, my HDD is quite empty (only ~10GB used of 80( [02:56] you didn't have to be so rude; mister. [02:56] silentContender: Get to it and type "df -h" [02:56] OK [02:56] Slartibartfast: No worries. I was leading up to it but wanted to see what's stopping KDM [02:56] thanks for the help guys :D LOVEYOUALLSOMUCH x [02:56] est ce qu'il y a un forum kubuntu ou ubuntu en francais [02:56] draik_, Ok, I was wrong 19GB used, 43Gb free [02:56] !fr [02:56] Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr [02:56] OUI; JE PARLE FRANCAIS (: [02:57] thanks [02:57] de rien ;D [02:57] AU REVOIR MES AMIS x [02:57] silentContender: While at the prompt, type "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart" [02:57] draik_, In the recovery root prompt? [02:57] silentContender: Yes please. [02:58] Ok [02:58] draik_, Done [02:58] silentContender: OK. Any errors? [02:59] draik_, My wireless keyboard doesn't work anymore. (Well I can change session but can type to login) [02:59] can -> can't [02:59] reboot [03:00] draik_, Ok [03:00] draik_, I'm back in the recovery root [03:01] silentContender: What is the error message you get when you try to get to a standard login? [03:02] draik_, I get none. I login into KDM, the screen goes blank and I get kick to the shell. Which I still can't login from. [03:02] silentContender: Do you not have a seperate /home partition ? [03:03] silentContender: Odd. Ok. What happens if you type "startx" from the root recovery prompt? [03:03] Slartibartfast, No I do not (stupid mistake) [03:03] silentContender: well i was asking, because maybe that one was full and would not let you login. [03:03] draik_, tried that earlier and it works fine except no mouse (and possibility keyboard) [03:04] silentContender: Ok. Let's try this... "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade" [03:04] draik_, the computer runs on wireless, so... [03:05] * Slartibartfast hates all the wireless shit which doesn't work anymore without a GUI [03:05] * draik_ agrees with Slartibartfast [03:05] * cbwcjw does too [03:05] draik_, Oh startx returns an error of "Failed to initialized GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found). I use a Geforce 6200 [03:05] AHA! [03:05] Probably a bad driver [03:06] Type this in... 'dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg' [03:06] draik_, I would assume so, but the hardware driver installer recommend this one [03:07] silentContender: Recommended for me is 177 and I'm using 96 [03:07] draik_, output: overwriting possibly-customised configuration file; backup in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.******** [03:07] That's fine [03:07] draik_, I'm using 177 [03:08] silentContender: reboot and check it out [03:08] draik_, check what? [03:08] If your issue has been resolved now that you ran the last command I provided you [03:08] silentContender: first try to delete the line "Driver "nvidia" " from /etc/X11/xorg.conf ...... and see if you then can login [03:09] Slartibartfast: It would be removed by now with the last command. It's going to be a plain xorg.conf now [03:09] I've rebooted [03:09] OK... and? [03:10] draik_: Sorry ... the text seems to get a little slow here :-) .... [03:10] Slartibartfast: No worries. [03:10] Into recovery, Do I need to boot to kdm [03:11] Wait [03:11] Ok [03:11] You keep getting the Recovery Mode option instead of the regular login from GRUB? [03:12] draik_ [03:12] ? [03:12] draik_, no I just go to recovery because its the only place I have a shell [03:12] Try the regular login [03:13] ok [03:13] draik_: this nvidia driver would not disbale his normal shell login [03:14] disable* [03:14] draik_, same problem again [03:14] Slartibartfast: When I ran it last it removed my nvidia options [03:15] I'm starting to think it may be some thing else. [03:15] silentContender: If you choose console login and this fails, does it give you an error message? === john is now known as Guest15249 [03:15] Slartibartfast, I login and immediately get logged out. If I log in with a bad login I get "login incorrect" [03:16] silentContender: i mean from the KDM menu you can choose console login [03:16] Slartibartfast: I am starting to think something got fubar'd from the last update [03:17] Slartibartfast, Yes I can. I tried earlier and its the same [03:17] draik_, same here [03:18] mmmm ... people have to do a lot to get the system that " fubar'd " :-) [03:18] was afk. Slartibartfast, wanting to reinstall so i can get my username, i forget it [03:18] figure might as well go through the setup process again [03:19] Slartibartfast, I install a couple package last time, but nothing involving kdm [03:20] silentContender: What kind of packages ? ... Did it say it also to remove packages ? [03:20] silentContender: 'apt-get --fix missing' [03:20] Slartibartfast, okular packages and something else (trying to remember) [03:20] ibuffy: maybe search the web ... let me see "mysql lost admin password reset" [03:21] draik_, well the computer I'm trying to fix has wireless (and it's using ndiswrapper) [03:21] ibuffy: well i think a lot of other people have thought about it also :-) [03:22] i know the passwd, i just forget the username [03:22] hehe, i sure hope so. i feel stupid [03:22] draik_, how would I setup the wireless [03:23] silentContender: That, I honestly do not know [03:23] ibuffy: aahh ... well i think mysql keeps a db about usernames and so ... but i am not that good in db administration :-) [03:24] draik_, I'll try to, give me a sec [03:25] ibuffy: maybe you can ask in #mysql ... [03:25] is there a way to disable a display without restarting x? [03:25] how to check my systems charencoding? [03:26] i have 2 displays, laptop screen and a 28" monitor. I do not need the laptop display and would liek to disable it. I also woudl like a way to do so without restarting X if possible (someone told me it was if I had something installed but cannot remember what it was) [03:28] ralph: type in console echo $LANG [03:30] Slartibartfast: ok, that is LANG=de_DE.UTF-8 . should be OK, but, kdialog gives me something else... [03:31] hi [03:31] !hi | saber_ [03:31] saber_: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu! [03:31] draik_, Still working [03:32] Mmm does KDE use a different one? .. don't know :-) [03:32] silentContender: What is still working? [03:32] draik_, I'm still working on the wireless connection [03:32] Ah [03:32] OK [03:32] al lucho le gusta el piko [03:33] 안녕^^ [03:33] !ko [03:33] For Korean help, /join #ubuntu-ko [03:33] thank you~ [03:34] anyone here use a laptop with an external screen? [03:37] ubuntu en francais [03:37] ? [03:38] !fr | luani [03:38] luani: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr [03:38] darkriftx: sorry, i was being lazy. I do [03:39] i have a laptop with a 1280x800 display and a new 28" 1920x1200 monitor. I want to figure out how to easily (and without restart) disable the laptop display and use only the external if possible. i think i just read that i need twinview to do this but i havent tried (getting ready to) [03:40] do you have any suggestions for my case? [03:40] my laptop screen keeps going crazy when it goes to sleep, so i just would rather disable it (but only when the external is on) [03:40] darkriftx: you could use nvidias, or just use the laptop itself [03:41] i cant figure out how to make the laptop shut its screen off (it has a hotkey to shut off the external though) [03:41] darkriftx: try finding a button, oh, maybye the same hotkey works? [03:41] nope [03:41] external on/off only [03:42] lemme try enabling twinview and see if that will work for me [03:42] if not, ill be back [03:43] draik_, you still there? I have an internet connection [03:45] draik_, what do I need to do? [03:51] silentContender: draik_ said something about "apt-get --fix-missing" [03:51] Slartibartfast, I tried and nothing happened, currently trying to update [03:52] Slartibartfast, ideas? [03:52] mmm ... think think :-) [03:53] so in recovery console you can do 'su your_username' ? [03:53] Slartibartfast, I'll try in a moment, the comp still updating [03:53] sounds a little like something from authentication got deleted [03:54] Slartibartfast, should be done updating in a few seconds [03:55] OK .. you can go from recovery console to normal login without reboot with the ue of "init 5" command [03:55] s/ue/use [03:55] Slartibartfast, should I try su [03:55] yeah [03:56] Slartibartfast, su works [03:56] can exit by CTRL d [03:56] exited [03:56] try init 5 [03:56] At KDM, attempting to login [03:57] ok [03:57] And back at the shell [03:57] no luck then [03:57] silentContender: still logged in as root? [03:58] And it's screwed. Have to reboot. [03:58] It's a mix of login and shell!?!? [03:58] got a bit of an odd problem. i have 3 HDs in my computer. I knew 2 were old, and so / and /home are on partitions on the brand new drive. I have /tmp on one of the old drives, and swap on the other. one is finally failing, clicking repeatedly. it is driving me insane! i want to switch swap and /tmp over to my known-working drive (probably just a /tmp under / on sda1 and a swapfile for now). help? [03:58] silentContender: what is screwed? [03:58] the computer is stuck between a shell and login [03:59] ok, disabling xinarama allowed me to disable the laptop display, seems to be working good for now. I have an old xorg.conf i can replace the current with should i need the laptop display working again [03:59] thx for the help cbwcjw [03:59] silentContender: so no root prompt ? [03:59] Yeah, I've rebooted [03:59] silentContender: I'm sorry, I was eating some cereal AFK. Where are we at now? [03:59] draik_, I have an internet connection and that's it [04:00] draik_, Slartibartfast had me do some check with "su" and "init 5" [04:00] silentContender: Ok. As root, 'apt-get update && apt-get upgrade' [04:00] draik_: his apt-get --fix-missing did do nothing [04:00] OK [04:00] !tmp [04:00] Sorry, I don't know anything about tmp [04:00] !swap [04:00] swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info [04:01] silentContender: That's what I wanted to know. What did it say? [04:01] draik_, nothing. [04:02] draik_: i think he has some problem with authentication ... and probably it is getting logged in /var/log/messages [04:02] draik_, It just upgraded like normal [04:02] darkriftx: Awesome. [04:03] silentContender: 'tail /var/log/auth.log' and what do you have? [04:05] draik_, "FAILED LOGIN (1) on 'tty1' FOR 'UNKNOWN', Authentication failure" [04:05] al lucho le gusta el pico [04:05] al lucho le gusta el pico [04:05] !es | piolinjazz [04:05] piolinjazz: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es. [04:06] !it| piolinjazz [04:06] piolinjazz: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (click col tasto destro sul nome del canale per entrare) [04:06] :-) [04:07] piolinjazz: 你好吗？ [04:07] la tuya [04:07] ? [04:07] and you [04:07] ? [04:08] draik_, before that: "pam_unix(login:auth): check pass; user unknown" and "pam_unix(login:auth): authentication failure; logname=LOGIN uid=0 euid=0 tty=tty1 ruser= rhost=" [04:08] i'm ok :-) thnx [04:08] That seems important [04:08] Does that mean, I need to make a new user? [04:09] The first one has me wondering if your user was deleted or something since it is marked as 'UNKNOWN'. [04:09] Should have had your username there, IIRC [04:09] Same here [04:09] Yes, try to make a new user [04:10] Anything else I can do? [04:11] silentContender: when making a new user be sure it will get added to the adm and admin groups as well [04:11] silentContender: otherwise you won't be able to use sudo [04:11] silentContender: As root, 'adduser ' [04:11] Yup [04:13] draik_, what should group be? [04:14] Should it be "root" or my own? [04:16] silentContender: groups should be username (your username) adm dialout cdrom plugdev lpadmin admin [04:16] silentContender: IIRC, should be the same as your username along with Slartibartfast's suggestions [04:17] So "adduser adm dialout cdrom plugdev lpadmin admin"? [04:17] silentContender: yes [04:17] silentContender: Yup [04:18] it says only on or two names allowed [04:18] OK, then just use your username and admin for the group and then we'll add the rest later [04:18] Have to go, thanks for the help [04:19] silentContender: :-) maybe first try to make "adduser " [04:19] then userad -G adm dialout cdrom plugdev lpadmin admin [04:19] Slartibartfast: I was thinking of doing just that, but wasn't sure of any conflicts for not having groups === DarkriftX is now known as Murderer === Murderer is now known as DarkriftX [04:20] got a new username, I'll look this up tomorrow. Thanks guys [04:20] draik_: I think the normal adduser will already set the standard groups ... only without the adm and admin groups [04:23] Slartibartfast: Good to know. I'll put that in my notes. I have to go too, being called for other issue on another Kubuntu desktop. [04:23] OK OK .. good luck [04:23] :-) [04:24] Slartibartfast: Off the top of your head, what is needed for CD playback? [04:24] draik_: eeeh something from kdemultimedia i think [04:24] OK. I'll look into that when I get to their desktop. [04:25] Thanks Slartibartfast for the extra brain cells on silentContender's issue. [04:25] draik_: :-) .. just trying to help. [04:46] oh well, i'm doing it [04:46] apt-get remove mysql-* [04:46] there goes about 500 apps [04:46] guess i'll reinstall kubuntu-desktop when this is through [04:46] ibuffy: Noooooooooooooooo [04:47] haha [04:47] :-) [04:47] too late [04:47] O oh [04:47] i needs me server running tonight so i can sleep soundly [04:47] Why then not just put the install CD in and re-install everything [04:48] because that would wipe my system... i don't have a seperate /home partition :\ [04:48] mmmm ok ok [04:48] maybe later if i get a backup drive [04:49] ack, kubuntu-desktop install mysql! [04:49] lol [04:49] and has the server running now [04:49] lol [04:49] so that was all pointless [04:49] !enter | ibuffy [04:49] ibuffy: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation! [04:49] sorry [04:50] tis ok, just try to keep it on one line. If there was more than one person here, it would be hard to see who was saying what [04:51] FOK YOUR [04:52] cleidson, stop that [04:52] !launguage [04:52]