[00:00] <Fieldy> ah i see. this is giving me the option of the restricted drivers. but first i'll just remove the conf and log out/in, i'd rather use the open ones...
[00:00] <Fieldy> brb
[00:00] <Fanfare> jockey-kde should be found in k-menu
[00:01] <Fanfare> ok, then drop jockey, as thats for the binary driver...
[00:08] <josh-l> hey folks, what browser do you guys use most? do you find that it can handle lots of open tabs, an/or lots of tabs with apps (music, video, java, flash, etc) ?
[00:09] <Fanfare> josh-l: I use Konqi for most cases but i dont do much music / video...
[00:09] <josh-l> I recently tried kubuntu (for kde) again which I try every major ubuntu release, and found the browsing the only thing that was very lacking for me... if it werent for that I would have kept kde
[00:10] <bazhang> you can install any browser on kubuntu josh-l
[00:10] <bilicki> is KDE4.2 the official stream or not?
[00:10] <josh-l> bazhang: I know... i found firefox, konqueror, and opera all to be the same...
[00:10] <bazhang> not yet
[00:11] <bilicki> when will it be?
[00:11] <bazhang> jaunty
[00:11] <bazhang> ie 9.04
[00:11] <josh-l> unstable with many open tabs, and/or many open web apps
[00:11] <bilicki> but I can still install it, right?
[00:11] <bilicki> are there any potential problems??
[00:11] <bazhang> josh-l, then likely bad extensions, no flashblock, no adblock etc
[00:12] <bazhang> bilicki, rave reviews so far; though I have no trouble with 4.1
[00:12] <josh-l> what do you mean by bad extensions? And I shouldnt need flashblock or adblock to have 5 open tabs 3 - 5 open with apps
[00:12] <bilicki> what's the command for installing amarok 2.0
[00:13] <bilicki> i am lazy to look it up :)
[00:13] <bilicki> amarok-kde4
[00:13] <bazhang> bilicki, but then again worksforme is not a good idea to go by :)
[00:13] <bilicki> or something?
[00:13] <maco> josh-l: are you using adobe flash?
[00:13] <maco> josh-l: if so, that's probably the issue
[00:13] <maco> josh-l: that plugin is really unstable. it crashes, the browser'll usually go with it
[00:13] <bazhang> josh-l, extensions that use way too many cpu cycles/badly coded
[00:13] <josh-l> maco I believe so, whatever kubuntu-restricted-extras installs, also I should mention I use 64bit os
[00:14] <bilicki> yes, it is amarok-kde4
[00:14] <bilicki> i am a genius :)
[00:14] <maco> i use NoScript and don't have any problems with crashes. then again, when i didnt use NoScript i still found Firefox to be much more stable than others said
[00:16] <josh-l> i guess theres no real reason to be a purist (maybe just OCD) but i never liked mixing gtk+qt either way around
[00:16] <bazhang> there is something to make gtk apps more qt-ish though
[00:16] <maco> that was my aesthetic excuse for not using kde apps before
[00:16] <maco> its ugly though
[00:17] <bazhang> hardly a reason not to use ff though imo
[00:17] <maco> the bottoms of the tabs get all cut off and the edges of the tabs aren't redrawn and ugh
[00:17] <josh-l> am i right to think there is no real reason (non aesthetic reason) to not mix gtk and qt?
[00:17] <bazhang> you are correct
[00:19] <josh-l> okay i'll give kubuntu another try by installing kubuntu-desktop, if soomehow ican get through the browsiing issue i'll rfeinstall with kubuntu cd (i know not necessary, but i'm a purist)
[00:19] <josh-l> and ocd
[00:20] <bazhang> wow I havent called offtopic in here yet.
[00:20] <boboso> when i make changes to the panel like add a shortcut for a program it is not there after i shutdown the pc and then log back in.....any ideas?
[00:21] <maco> boboso: lsattr
[00:21] <maco> bah
[00:21] <maco> lsattr ~/.kde/share/config/plasma-appletsrc
[00:22] <maco> and ls -l on the same file
[00:23] <Fieldy> !nvidia
[00:25] <boboso> maco: after the lsattr ~/.kde/share/config/plasma-appletsrc and the ls -l i get plasma-appletsrc in that folder is that what i need?
[00:25] <Fieldy> is it just me, or does adept crash a lot?
[00:25] <maco> boboso: im asking for the output
[00:32] <boboso> maco: http://pastebin.com/d20748980
[00:32] <Noize> hello. does any one know a solution for using the gps of a mobile phone in kubuntu?
[00:32] <maco> boboso: what about the ls -l one?
[00:33] <boboso> maco: http://pastebin.com/d39d1bec1
[00:35] <maco> boboso: all the permissions are fine, so i dont know
[00:37] <boboso> k ty
[00:48] <PKodon> Okay, how do I get the menu bar back in the chat window of Kopete?
[00:48] <PKodon> No matter where I right-click, there's no choice for bringing it back, once it'
[00:48] <PKodon> s hidden
[00:51] <stdin> try Ctrl-M
[01:01] <Fieldy> hello, i just updated from hardy heron to 8.10. all is going well, except that I can no longer fully connect to my vpn server with kvpnc. The server accepts the connection, and in fact everything is fine except the very last step: the server tells the client what its new default route should be, but the client never actually does so, and just sits there. any ideas?
[01:18] <Noize> Does anyone know if it is possible to share the gps of a Nokia 6220 via USB with my laptop?
[01:24] <cahuez> buenas noches a tod@s...
[01:24] <cahuez> una consulta del intrepid ibex..
[01:25] <bazhang> !es
[01:25] <cahuez> checking...
[01:26] <cahuez> done and sorry, I'm checking kids's homework, hehe; thanks anyway...
[01:30] <BigMike> hi all
[01:30] <BigMike> how do I stop programs from autostarting on boot??
[01:30] <cjae> hey is a non-experimetal kde 4.2 set to release or will it be just for jaunty
[01:30] <cjae> for intrepid
[01:32] <cjae> cause you can enable it via the ppa repo but are going to deliver for intrepid through the non-expermimental repos or will kde 4.2 just be for jaunty
[01:32] <zaibach333> how come when I move video players around and use alt-tab the video I'm playing is a black box?
[01:35] <vicent> hola
[01:36] <bazhang> !es
[01:36] <vicent> hello
[01:37] <fosco_> hi
[01:37] <vicent> there are not more channels in this server?
[01:38] <fosco_> thousands of them
[01:38] <Fieldy> !googleearth
[01:38] <Fieldy> !Medibuntu
[01:38] <vicent> how can I get a list of channels?
[01:39] <fosco_> and open your eyes
[01:39] <vicent> ?
[01:40] <vicent> how can I get a list of channels?
[01:40] <fosco_> type /list
[01:40] <bazhang> err not the best way
[01:41] <bazhang> that will list them all
[01:41] <fosco_> if using xchat right clic on the channel window and choose Server - List channels
[01:41] <vicent> thanks to both
[01:42] <bazhang> try /msg alis help
[01:42] <bazhang> vicent, ^^
[01:43] <Fieldy> hello, i updated from hardy to 8.10. the only issue I'm having is that despite after a modprobe tun , I simply do not have a tun0 (or any other tun*) network device. this is in stark contrast to hardy heron, does anyone know if I'm doing something wrong?
[01:45] <bazhang> vicent, it will still be a big list for example if you /msg alis list #ubuntu-*
[01:46] <bazhang> but nothing near /list which may crash your irc client
[01:47] <fosco_> crash? i've done it right now
[01:47] <fosco_> :-?
[01:48] <bazhang> the command /msg alis list <parameter> is what freenode staff recommend
[01:49] <cjae> !sources
[02:01] <draik_> When using foremost, how can I search for 'mp3' files? It won't let me. I have done a numerous amount of other filetypes, but MP3 doesn't seem to be allowed for an odd reason.
[02:03] <ibuffy> http://dpaste.com/8404/
[02:03] <ibuffy> yikes
[02:03] <ibuffy> i can't have that!
[02:04] <Slartibartfast> ibuffy: So DON"T do that :-)
[02:04] <ibuffy> i didn't :P but... i need to remove mysql
[02:04] <ibuffy> reinstall it
[02:05] <ibuffy> i have a feeling i'm still going to get that suggestion if i try using apt again :|
[02:05] <Slartibartfast> ibuffy: Then try apt-get --reinstall install mysql-something
[02:06] <Slartibartfast> ibuffy: Why you think you need to re-install it?
[02:14] <cjae> http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3101481
[02:14] <Fieldy> could someone with 8.10, who also isn't using a tun network device, do me a favor? sudo modprobe -rav tun ; modprobe -v tun ; dmesg | grep tun | tail ; sudo ifconfig -a | grep tun
[02:14] <cjae> this fixes most things broken by apt
[02:15] <Fieldy> because when I load the tun modules, I get no tun0 (or any other) tun device. this is preventing me from being a VPN client.
[02:20] <cjae> ok if an update screws up something e.g color of my panel how do I set it kde back to defaults rm -rf ~/.kde erases to much stuff
[02:20] <cjae> or mv ~/.kde ~/.kde.old
[02:46] <silentContender> Can some one help me fix KDM so I can login?  (I'm using Ubuntu with KDE 4.1)
[02:50] <login_> animal32cm
[02:50] <draik_> silentContender: Why can't you login in the first place?
[02:52] <silentContender> draik_, I could not tell you.  The shell won't even let me log in
[02:53] <silentContender> draik_, I turned on my computer earlier and everything was fine. I install couple packages and turned it off.  Now, I can't log in
[02:53] <josh_> HAI SEXY PEOPLE :)
[02:54] <bazhang> josh_, ??
[02:54] <draik_> silentContender: How big is your HDD?
[02:54] <silentContender> 80GB
[02:54] <josh_> draik is filthy :P ;)
[02:54] <bazhang> josh_, stop that
[02:54] <draik_> josh_: LOL :p
[02:54] <josh_> bazhang; spoilsport ;D
[02:54] <bazhang> !ot > josh_
[02:55] <draik_> silentContender: can you get a command prompt?
[02:55] <josh_> bazhang you bully. leave me alone !
[02:55] <Slartibartfast> silentContender: is it possible your HD is 100% full?
[02:55] <silentContender> draik_, Only a root shell in recovery.
[02:55] <draik_> Slartibartfast: That's what I'm getting at
[02:55] <bazhang> josh_, this is support; take chat elsewhere
[02:55] <Slartibartfast> just asking
[02:56] <silentContender> Slartibartfast, my HDD is quite empty (only ~10GB used of 80(
[02:56] <josh_> you didn't have to be so rude; mister.
[02:56] <draik_> silentContender: Get to it and type "df -h"
[02:56] <draik_> OK
[02:56] <draik_> Slartibartfast: No worries. I was leading up to it but wanted to see what's stopping KDM
[02:56] <josh_> thanks for the help guys :D LOVEYOUALLSOMUCH x
[02:56] <luani> est ce qu'il y a un forum kubuntu ou ubuntu en francais
[02:56] <silentContender> draik_, Ok, I was wrong 19GB used, 43Gb free
[02:56] <bazhang> !fr
[02:56] <josh_> OUI; JE PARLE FRANCAIS (:
[02:57] <luani> thanks
[02:57] <josh_> de rien ;D
[02:57] <josh_> AU REVOIR MES AMIS x
[02:57] <draik_> silentContender: While at the prompt, type "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart"
[02:57] <silentContender> draik_, In the recovery root prompt?
[02:57] <draik_> silentContender: Yes please.
[02:58] <silentContender> Ok
[02:58] <silentContender> draik_, Done
[02:58] <draik_> silentContender: OK. Any errors?
[02:59] <silentContender> draik_, My wireless keyboard doesn't work anymore.  (Well I can change session but can type to login)
[02:59] <silentContender> can -> can't
[02:59] <draik_> reboot
[03:00] <silentContender> draik_, Ok
[03:00] <silentContender> draik_, I'm back in the recovery root
[03:01] <draik_> silentContender: What is the error message you get when you try to get to a standard login?
[03:02] <silentContender> draik_, I get none.  I login into KDM, the screen goes blank and I get kick to the shell.  Which I still can't login from.
[03:02] <Slartibartfast> silentContender: Do you not have a seperate /home partition ?
[03:03] <draik_> silentContender: Odd. Ok. What happens if you type "startx" from the root recovery prompt?
[03:03] <silentContender> Slartibartfast, No I do not (stupid mistake)
[03:03] <Slartibartfast> silentContender: well i was asking, because maybe that one was full and would not let you login.
[03:03] <silentContender> draik_, tried that earlier and it works fine except no mouse (and possibility keyboard)
[03:04] <draik_> silentContender: Ok. Let's try this...  "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade"
[03:04] <silentContender> draik_, the computer runs on wireless, so...
[03:05]  * Slartibartfast hates all the wireless shit which doesn't work anymore without a GUI 
[03:05]  * draik_ agrees with Slartibartfast
[03:05]  * cbwcjw does too
[03:05] <silentContender> draik_, Oh startx returns an error of "Failed to initialized GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found).  I use a Geforce 6200
[03:05] <draik_> AHA!
[03:05] <draik_> Probably a bad driver
[03:06] <draik_> Type this in... 'dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg'
[03:06] <silentContender> draik_, I would assume so, but the hardware driver installer recommend this one
[03:07] <draik_> silentContender: Recommended for me is 177 and I'm using 96
[03:07] <silentContender> draik_, output: overwriting possibly-customised configuration file; backup in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.********
[03:07] <draik_> That's fine
[03:07] <silentContender> draik_, I'm using 177
[03:08] <draik_> silentContender: reboot and check it out
[03:08] <silentContender> draik_, check what?
[03:08] <draik_> If your issue has been resolved now that you ran the last command I provided you
[03:08] <Slartibartfast> silentContender: first try to delete the line "Driver      "nvidia" " from /etc/X11/xorg.conf ...... and see if you then can login
[03:09] <draik_> Slartibartfast: It would be removed by now with the last command. It's going to be a plain xorg.conf now
[03:09] <silentContender> I've rebooted
[03:09] <draik_> OK... and?
[03:10] <Slartibartfast> draik_: Sorry ... the text seems to get a little slow here :-) ....
[03:10] <draik_> Slartibartfast: No worries.
[03:10] <silentContender> Into recovery, Do I need to boot to kdm
[03:11] <draik_> Wait
[03:11] <silentContender> Ok
[03:11] <draik_> You keep getting the Recovery Mode option instead of the regular login from GRUB?
[03:12] <silentContender> draik_
[03:12] <draik_> ?
[03:12] <silentContender> draik_, no I just go to recovery because its the only place I have a shell
[03:12] <draik_> Try the regular login
[03:13] <silentContender> ok
[03:13] <Slartibartfast> draik_: this nvidia driver would not disbale his normal shell login
[03:14] <Slartibartfast> disable*
[03:14] <silentContender> draik_, same problem again
[03:14] <draik_> Slartibartfast: When I ran it last it removed my nvidia options
[03:15] <silentContender> I'm starting to think it may be some thing else.
[03:15] <Slartibartfast> silentContender: If you choose console login and this fails, does it give you an error message?
[03:15] <silentContender> Slartibartfast, I login and immediately get logged out.  If I log in with a bad login I get "login incorrect"
[03:16] <Slartibartfast> silentContender: i mean from the KDM menu you can choose console login
[03:16] <draik_> Slartibartfast: I am starting to think something got fubar'd from the last update
[03:17] <silentContender> Slartibartfast, Yes I can.  I tried earlier and its the same
[03:17] <silentContender> draik_, same here
[03:18] <Slartibartfast> mmmm ... people have to do a lot to get the system that " fubar'd " :-)
[03:18] <ibuffy> was afk. Slartibartfast, wanting to reinstall so i can get my username, i forget it
[03:18] <ibuffy> figure might as well go through the setup process again
[03:19] <silentContender> Slartibartfast, I install a couple package last time, but nothing involving kdm
[03:20] <Slartibartfast> silentContender: What kind of packages ? ... Did it say it also to remove packages ?
[03:20] <draik_> silentContender: 'apt-get --fix missing'
[03:20] <silentContender> Slartibartfast, okular packages and something else (trying to remember)
[03:20] <Slartibartfast> ibuffy: maybe search the web ... let me see "mysql lost admin password reset"
[03:21] <silentContender> draik_, well the computer I'm trying to fix has wireless (and it's using ndiswrapper)
[03:21] <Slartibartfast> ibuffy:  well i think a lot of other people have thought about it also :-)
[03:22] <ibuffy> i know the passwd, i just forget the username
[03:22] <ibuffy> hehe, i sure hope so. i feel stupid
[03:22] <silentContender> draik_, how would I setup the wireless
[03:23] <draik_> silentContender: That, I honestly do not know
[03:23] <Slartibartfast> ibuffy: aahh ... well i think mysql keeps a db about usernames and so ... but i am not that good in db administration :-)
[03:24] <silentContender> draik_, I'll try to, give me a sec
[03:25] <Slartibartfast> ibuffy: maybe you can ask in #mysql ...
[03:25] <DarkriftX> is there a way to disable a display without restarting x?
[03:25] <ralph> how to check my systems charencoding?
[03:26] <DarkriftX> i have 2 displays, laptop screen and a 28" monitor. I do not need the laptop display and would liek to disable it. I also woudl like a way to do so without restarting X if possible (someone told me it was if I had something installed but cannot remember what it was)
[03:28] <Slartibartfast> ralph: type in console echo $LANG
[03:30] <ralph> Slartibartfast: ok, that is LANG=de_DE.UTF-8 . should be OK, but, kdialog gives me something else...
[03:31] <saber_> hi
[03:31] <cbwcjw> !hi | saber_
[03:31] <silentContender> draik_, Still working
[03:32] <Slartibartfast> Mmm does KDE use a different one? .. don't know :-)
[03:32] <draik_> silentContender: What is still working?
[03:32] <silentContender> draik_, I'm still working on the wireless connection
[03:32] <draik_> Ah
[03:32] <draik_> OK
[03:32] <piolinjazz> al lucho le gusta el piko
[03:33] <saber_> 안녕^^
[03:33] <bazhang> !ko
[03:33] <saber_> thank you~
[03:34] <DarkriftX> anyone here use a laptop with an external screen?
[03:37] <luani> ubuntu en francais
[03:37] <luani> ?
[03:38] <cbwcjw> !fr | luani
[03:38] <cbwcjw> darkriftx: sorry, i was being lazy. I do
[03:39] <DarkriftX> i have a laptop with a 1280x800 display and a new 28" 1920x1200 monitor. I want to figure out how to easily (and without restart) disable the laptop display and use only the external if possible. i think i just read that i need twinview to do this but i havent tried (getting ready to)
[03:40] <DarkriftX> do you have any suggestions for my case?
[03:40] <DarkriftX> my laptop screen keeps going crazy when it goes to sleep, so i just would rather disable it (but only when the external is on)
[03:40] <cbwcjw> darkriftx: you could use nvidias, or just use the laptop itself
[03:41] <DarkriftX> i cant figure out how to make the laptop shut its screen off (it has a hotkey to shut off the external though)
[03:41] <cbwcjw> darkriftx: try finding a button, oh, maybye the same hotkey works?
[03:41] <DarkriftX> nope
[03:41] <DarkriftX> external on/off only
[03:42] <DarkriftX> lemme try enabling twinview and see if that will work for me
[03:42] <DarkriftX> if not, ill be back
[03:43] <silentContender> draik_, you still there?  I have an internet connection
[03:45] <silentContender> draik_, what do I need to do?
[03:51] <Slartibartfast> silentContender: draik_ said something about "apt-get --fix-missing"
[03:51] <silentContender> Slartibartfast, I tried and nothing happened, currently trying to update
[03:52] <silentContender> Slartibartfast, ideas?
[03:52] <Slartibartfast> mmm ... think think :-)
[03:53] <Slartibartfast> so in recovery console you can do 'su your_username' ?
[03:53] <silentContender> Slartibartfast, I'll try in a moment, the comp still updating
[03:53] <Slartibartfast> sounds a little like something from authentication got deleted
[03:54] <silentContender> Slartibartfast, should be done updating in a few seconds
[03:55] <Slartibartfast> OK .. you can go from recovery console to normal login without reboot with the ue of "init 5" command
[03:55] <Slartibartfast> s/ue/use
[03:55] <silentContender> Slartibartfast, should I try su
[03:55] <Slartibartfast> yeah
[03:56] <silentContender> Slartibartfast, su works
[03:56] <Slartibartfast> can exit by CTRL d
[03:56] <silentContender> exited
[03:56] <Slartibartfast> try init 5
[03:56] <silentContender> At KDM, attempting to login
[03:57] <Slartibartfast> ok
[03:57] <silentContender> And back at the shell
[03:57] <Slartibartfast> no luck then
[03:57] <Slartibartfast> silentContender: still logged in as root?
[03:58] <silentContender> And it's screwed.  Have to reboot.
[03:58] <silentContender> It's a mix of login and shell!?!?
[03:58] <SilentDis> got a bit of an odd problem.  i have 3 HDs in my computer.  I knew 2 were old, and so / and /home are on partitions on the brand new drive.  I have /tmp on one of the old drives, and swap on the other.  one is finally failing, clicking repeatedly.  it is driving me insane!  i want to switch swap and /tmp over to my known-working drive (probably just a /tmp under / on sda1 and a swapfile for now).  help?
[03:58] <Slartibartfast> silentContender: what is screwed?
[03:58] <silentContender> the computer is stuck between a shell and login
[03:59] <DarkriftX> ok, disabling xinarama allowed me to disable the laptop display, seems to be working good for now. I have an old xorg.conf i can replace the current with should i need the laptop display working again
[03:59] <DarkriftX> thx for the help cbwcjw
[03:59] <Slartibartfast> silentContender: so no root prompt ?
[03:59] <silentContender> Yeah, I've rebooted
[03:59] <draik_> silentContender: I'm sorry, I was eating some cereal AFK. Where are we at now?
[03:59] <silentContender> draik_, I have an internet connection and that's it
[04:00] <silentContender> draik_, Slartibartfast had me do some check with "su" and "init 5"
[04:00] <draik_> silentContender: Ok. As root, 'apt-get update && apt-get upgrade'
[04:00] <Slartibartfast> draik_: his apt-get --fix-missing did do nothing
[04:00] <draik_> OK
[04:00] <SilentDis> !tmp
[04:00] <SilentDis> !swap
[04:01] <draik_> silentContender: That's what I wanted to know. What did it say?
[04:01] <silentContender> draik_, nothing.
[04:02] <Slartibartfast> draik_: i think he has some problem with authentication ... and probably it is getting logged in /var/log/messages
[04:02] <silentContender> draik_, It just upgraded like normal
[04:02] <cbwcjw> darkriftx: Awesome.
[04:03] <draik_> silentContender: 'tail /var/log/auth.log' and what do you have?
[04:05] <silentContender> draik_, "FAILED LOGIN (1) on 'tty1' FOR 'UNKNOWN', Authentication failure"
[04:05] <piolinjazz> al lucho le gusta el pico
[04:05] <piolinjazz>  al lucho le gusta el pico
[04:05] <cbwcjw> !es | piolinjazz
[04:06] <Slartibartfast> !it| piolinjazz
[04:06] <Slartibartfast> :-)
[04:07] <Slartibartfast> piolinjazz: 你好吗？
[04:07] <piolinjazz> la tuya
[04:07] <piolinjazz> ?
[04:07] <piolinjazz> and you
[04:07] <piolinjazz> ?
[04:08] <silentContender> draik_, before that: "pam_unix(login:auth): check pass; user unknown" and "pam_unix(login:auth): authentication failure; logname=LOGIN uid=0 euid=0 tty=tty1 ruser= rhost="
[04:08] <Slartibartfast> i'm ok :-) thnx
[04:08] <silentContender> That seems important
[04:08] <silentContender> Does that mean, I need to make a new user?
[04:09] <draik_> The first one has me wondering if your user was deleted or something since it is marked as 'UNKNOWN'.
[04:09] <draik_> Should have had your username there, IIRC
[04:09] <silentContender> Same here
[04:09] <draik_> Yes, try to make a new user
[04:10] <silentContender> Anything else I can do?
[04:11] <Slartibartfast> silentContender: when making a new user be sure it will get added to the adm and admin groups as well
[04:11] <Slartibartfast> silentContender: otherwise you won't be able to use sudo
[04:11] <draik_> silentContender: As root, 'adduser <username> <group>'
[04:11] <draik_> Yup
[04:13] <silentContender> draik_, what should group be?
[04:14] <silentContender> Should it be "root" or my own?
[04:16] <Slartibartfast> silentContender: groups should be username (your username) adm dialout cdrom plugdev lpadmin admin
[04:16] <draik_> silentContender: IIRC, should be the same as your username along with Slartibartfast's suggestions
[04:17] <silentContender> So "adduser <username> <username> adm dialout cdrom plugdev lpadmin admin"?
[04:17] <Slartibartfast> silentContender: yes
[04:17] <draik_> silentContender: Yup
[04:18] <silentContender> it says only on or two names allowed
[04:18] <draik_> OK, then just use your username and admin for the group and then we'll add the rest later
[04:18] <silentContender> Have to go, thanks for the help
[04:19] <Slartibartfast> silentContender: :-) maybe first try to make "adduser <username>"
[04:19] <Slartibartfast> then userad -G adm dialout cdrom plugdev lpadmin admin <username>
[04:19] <draik_> Slartibartfast: I was thinking of doing just that, but wasn't sure of any conflicts for not having groups
[04:20] <silentContender> got a new username, I'll look this up tomorrow. Thanks guys
[04:20] <Slartibartfast> draik_: I think the normal adduser will already set the standard groups ... only without the adm and admin groups
[04:23] <draik_> Slartibartfast: Good to know. I'll put that in my notes. I have to go too, being called for other issue on another Kubuntu desktop.
[04:23] <Slartibartfast> OK OK .. good luck
[04:23] <Slartibartfast> :-)
[04:24] <draik_> Slartibartfast: Off the top of your head, what is needed for CD playback?
[04:24] <Slartibartfast> draik_: eeeh something from kdemultimedia i think
[04:24] <draik_> OK. I'll look into that when I get to their desktop.
[04:25] <draik_> Thanks Slartibartfast for the extra brain cells on silentContender's issue.
[04:25] <Slartibartfast> draik_: :-) .. just trying to help.
[04:46] <ibuffy> oh well, i'm doing it
[04:46] <ibuffy> apt-get remove mysql-*
[04:46] <ibuffy> there goes about 500 apps
[04:46] <ibuffy> guess i'll reinstall kubuntu-desktop when this is through
[04:46] <Slartibartfast> ibuffy: Noooooooooooooooo
[04:47] <ibuffy> haha
[04:47] <Slartibartfast> :-)
[04:47] <ibuffy> too late
[04:47] <Slartibartfast> O oh
[04:47] <ibuffy> i needs me server running tonight so i can sleep soundly
[04:47] <Slartibartfast> Why then not just put the install CD in and re-install everything
[04:48] <ibuffy> because that would wipe my system... i don't have a seperate /home partition :\
[04:48] <Slartibartfast> mmmm ok ok
[04:48] <ibuffy> maybe later if i get a backup drive
[04:49] <ibuffy> ack, kubuntu-desktop install mysql!
[04:49] <ibuffy> lol
[04:49] <ibuffy> and has the server running now
[04:49] <ibuffy> lol
[04:49] <ibuffy> so that was all pointless
[04:49] <cbwcjw> !enter | ibuffy
[04:49] <ibuffy> sorry
[04:50] <cbwcjw> tis ok, just try to keep it on one line. If there was more than one person here, it would be hard to see who was saying what
[04:51] <cleidson> FOK YOUR
[04:52] <bazhang> cleidson, stop that
[04:52] <cbwcjw> !launguage
[04:52] <cbwcjw> :/
[04:52] <cbwcjw> !language
[04:58] <BentFranklin> Is there a limit to the length of a command line in bash?
[05:06] <BentFranklin> Can anyone see why this tar command does not create a file yet has no errors?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/127572/
[05:26] <Guest17580> I'm using KDE4.2 and I'm missing the text to the menus
[05:26] <Guest17580> It's like white on white
[05:26] <Guest17580> The same applies right now to the list on the right of online users
[05:31] <Guest17580> Actually, I now see the text flashing as people have come and gone
[05:31] <Guest17580> Even as I enter text into the channel
[05:33] <khalid> i am having problem with graphic on kbuntu 8.10
[05:33] <khalid> laptop Toshiba Tecra M2
[05:33] <dreamer> what is the problem?
[05:34] <khalid> initially it was installed with 1024x768 resolution and the whole screen was BLUR
[05:35] <khalid> When I switched to 800x600 it was ok
[05:35] <khalid> using GeForce Go5200
[05:39] <dreamer> can you define this blur more precise?
[05:39] <dreamer> I don't know your laptop though
[05:39] <dreamer> what driver are you using for your videocard?
[05:48] <Squatch> Hey everyone.  I just did an upgrade through the graphical IDE and now, when I startx, I get the nvidia logo and then a small command prompt at the top left of the screen...  Any ideas?
[05:51] <Squatch> Also, when I try "apt-get install kdm" (because "kdm" at the prompt says it's not installed) I'm told that it depends on kdebase-runtime but it won't be installed and there's nothing saying why...  (Yes, it's got an Internet connection)
[05:51] <dreamer> iirc it has something to do with write permissions in your users folder .. but don't pin me down on it
[05:52] <Squatch> Hmmm, I'll check those, maybe if I tried "sudo startx"?
[05:52] <dreamer> try sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[05:53] <Squatch>    Well, that gets the same results.  It seems that the last upgrade fubared my kde installation >_<
[05:53] <Squatch> kk
[05:54] <dreamer> and?
[05:55] <Squatch> "kdm not running" and "kdmstart-stop-daemon: stat /usr/bin/kdm: No such file or directory"
[05:55]  * dreamer off
[05:55] <dreamer> eh?
[05:55] <dreamer> you can't sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start ?
[05:55] <Squatch> Nope >_<.
[05:56] <dreamer> ok ..
[05:56] <dreamer> sorry, can't help you there -_-
[05:56] <Squatch> Know anything about rebuilding packages via apt-get or something from the commandline?
[05:56] <Squatch> Or maybe uninstalling/reinstalling kde?
[06:03] <Squatch> Anyone?
[06:11] <doktorlinuxdell> ciao
[06:11] <doktorlinuxdell> supporto j.j
[06:23] <BentFranklin> I'm making full system backups using tar.  Are the any files or directories that I should NOT backup into a tar that will eb used for recovery?
[06:39] <bilicki> when I try to update my system, gwenview won't update, not sure why
[06:39] <bilicki> The following packages have been kept back:
[06:39] <bilicki>   gwenview
[06:39] <bilicki> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
[06:51] <AmyRose> bilicki: What version of Kubuntu and KDE are you using?
[06:53] <bilicki> AmyRose: 8.10 and 4.2
[06:59] <AmyRose> bilicki: Hmm... seems odd
[07:04] <cjae> ok alt - f2 strigi blank to search
[07:05] <cjae> client
[07:06] <DarkriftX> what does this mean: Install these packages without verification [y/N]?
[07:06] <DarkriftX> what kind of verification am i missing, the command was "sudo apt-get install kde4"
[07:06] <DarkriftX> (decided to try it out, its been about 6 months since i have)
[07:07] <cjae> just select y
[07:07] <DarkriftX> ok. just never seen that "warning" before
[07:07] <DarkriftX> and last time i tried kde4 it almost destroyed my install.... has me ready for the worst already
[07:07] <cjae> !strigiclient
[07:08] <cjae> ! info strigiclient
[07:08] <cjae> !info strigiclient
[07:08] <cjae> um sure does
[07:11]  * DarkriftX crosses his fingers and hopes for a working system after this install
[07:22] <husayn> what was the command to mount iso image on kubuntu
[07:25] <husayn> what was the command to mount iso image on kubuntu
[07:25] <husayn> it was like  sudo mount -o loop  something like that
[07:26] <husayn> anyone here
[07:50] <ibuffy> husayn: sudo mount -o loop -t iso9660 /wherever/iso/image/is/image.iso /media/iso/
[07:50] <ibuffy> going to bed, gn
[08:06] <omar> Dear's I'm New lunics use and I need your help
[08:06] <omar> we have servire in our company with WIN install
[08:07] <omar> we have Exls file
[08:07] <omar> my PC working with Lunics
[08:07] <omar> the problem I could not open any Exls file from my PC
[08:07] <omar> PleaseAny help with my appreciate
[08:08] <omar> Note I can see the file but I could not run or open it
[08:42] <BentFranklin> test
[08:43] <BentFranklin> test again
[09:05] <doktorlinuxdell> ciao
[09:05] <doktorlinuxdell> supporto kubuntu 9.04
[09:06] <bazhang> !jaunty
[09:07] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1 for jaunty (9.04)
[09:14] <linux_ubuntu> anyone here testing kubuntu jaunty?
[09:15] <bazhang> in #ubuntu+1 for that please linux_ubuntu
[09:15] <linux_ubuntu> ok, tnx!
[09:36] <Noize> hello. does anyone know if it is psooible to use the gps function from a mobile phone on the laptop?
[09:52] <qmr> What pkg do I need to install to have "kioclient" ?
[09:57] <bazhang> !find kioclient
[09:58] <qmr> Which of those is smallest download?
[09:59] <bazhang> qmr, what are you trying to do?
[09:59] <qmr> bazhang: compile latest kdenlive
[09:59] <qmr> kioclient: program not found in PATH. You need this program to view log files and open installation folder in a browser. Should be part of all KDE4 installations?
[09:59] <bazhang> qmr, then use apt-build
[10:00] <qmr> I really don't think that will do what is needed
[10:04] <igsavenko> привет
[10:04] <igsavenko> подскажите мне как остановить x - server
[10:04] <igsavenko> я не могу поставить драйвера на видео карту
[10:05] <bazhang> !ru
[10:05] <igsavenko> Привет
[10:05] <igsavenko> мне может кто-нить помочь?
[10:05] <bazhang> igsavenko, /join #ubuntu-ru
[10:05] <igsavenko> ok
[10:05] <igsavenko> thanks
[10:05] <bazhang> np
[10:08] <athlon1> Hallo. I'm downloading .flv files with download helper. But, How can I play them? I try with kplyaer, smplayer and imposible. Also tried to convert with ffmpeg, and the same...
[10:08] <bazhang> athlon1, vlc or miro
[10:08] <qmr> athlon1: any media player will play them fine
[10:08] <bobe> I'm playing them with smplayer
[10:08] <bobe> flv's from yt
[10:09] <athlon1> But, do I have to install some extra plugin?
[10:09] <bobe> did u install gstreamer plugins
[10:09] <bobe> ?
[10:09] <athlon1> I'm downloading them from google...
[10:09] <bazhang> youtube-dl ?
[10:09] <bobe> w32codecs
[10:09] <qmr> athlon1: sudo aptitude install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[10:09] <bobe> yep
[10:09] <bazhang> kubuntu actually
[10:09] <bobe> it will work
[10:10] <bazhang> s/ubuntu/kubuntu
[10:10] <qmr> bazhang: same packages
[10:10] <athlon1> Ok, i'm going to try and and answer in a few minutes....
[10:13] <athlon1> I see it already woks with youtube. but for .flv from google? Is it possible?
[10:13] <bobe> video.google.com?
[10:13] <bobe> it should work
[10:14] <bobe> im going to try
[10:14] <bobe> give me couple of seconds
[10:16] <athlon1> For example. Look for "my little airport" in google video and reproduce the first video (the one with the glasses). I can download it, but unable to convert and play....
[10:16] <Engelus> Hello
[10:20] <athlon1> I see it works with youtube, I've not been able to download and play from video.google
[10:21] <bobe> it works
[10:22] <athlon1> with google?
[10:22] <bobe> i downloaded and works
[10:22] <bobe> yes
[10:22] <bobe> http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=my+little+airport&emb=0&aq=f#
[10:23] <bobe> do u have these packages installed?
[10:23] <bobe> gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad
[10:23] <bobe> gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse
[10:23] <bobe> gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
[10:24] <bobe> gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse
[10:24] <bobe> but wait
[10:24] <bobe> if it works with yt it should work with video.google.com
[10:24] <bobe> odd situation
[10:24] <bobe> :)
[10:24] <athlon1> I've download and played from youtube, but unable to convert and play from google.
[10:25] <athlon1> I'm going to try again....
[10:25] <bobe> strange
[10:25] <bobe> i click on icon
[10:25] <bobe> tell it where to downoad
[10:25] <bobe> and boom it works
[10:26] <bobe> Selected codec
[10:26] <bobe> ffh264
[10:26] <athlon1> Thats what I do and ... it doesn't wok
[10:26] <bobe> this is codec it is using now
[10:26] <athlon1> I also try with command ffmpeg -i file.flv file.avi and it says error in conversion...
[10:27] <athlon1> Where do I select that code? I packages or Donwload options?
[10:28] <athlon1> Where do I select that code? In packages or Donwload options?
[10:28] <bobe> i think i got the codecs from http://smplayer.sourceforge.net/downloads.php?tr_lang=en
[10:28] <bobe> what ubuntu do u have?
[10:28] <bobe> 8.10?
[10:29] <athlon1> 8.04
[10:29] <bobe> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/rvm/ppa/ubuntu hardy main
[10:29] <bobe> add this to /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:29] <bobe> do u know how?
[10:30] <athlon1> I'm downloading and installing smplayer u told...
[10:30] <bobe> when i checked smplayer from that repository it pulled also libx264 codecs
[10:33] <bazhang> bobe, no need for the outside repo
[10:33] <bobe> i thought it is solution...
[10:34] <bazhang> best to offer ubuntu repos as those are less reliable and when updating they dont always keep up
[10:34] <bobe> yep
[10:35] <bobe> but i dont find other solution beside this one :(
[10:35] <bobe> i think it uses libx264 from that repo
[10:35] <bobe> for playing those vids
[10:35] <bazhang> unless you really need a ppa (like handbrake for example) :)
[10:36] <athlon1> Thanks bobe, and thanks to others. I'll try later, but now I've to leave the computer. Thanks.
[10:36] <bazhang> but it is drive at your own risk in those cases
[10:37] <bobe> np, hope it helps
[10:38] <bobe> i use smplayer from that repo because of intel gma
[10:48] <chris-rc1> hello
[10:48] <bazhang> hi
[10:50] <taner> hi
[10:53] <chris-rc1> i've compiled digikam for kde4 from the svn repo and it works, but digikam can find neither showfoto nor the kipi-plugins. it doesn't even show previews. i am on kubuntu 8.10. can sb pls help me?
[11:03] <Laeborg> can I upgrade from 32bit to 64bit ?
[11:03] <bazhang> Laeborg, only with  a full reinstall
[11:03] <Laeborg> okay
[11:03] <Laeborg> thanks
[11:03] <bazhang> np
[11:10] <fivetwentysix> How do I enable hardware acceleration in kde4.x? I want to make use of my 8800gts...
[11:12] <fivetwentysix> hmm
[11:32] <Guest45507> hello
[11:33] <siekacz> hi
[11:33] <siekacz> kubuntu-desktop installs KDE 4.2 or 4.1?
[11:36] <fosco_> siekacz, it depends on your ubuntu version
[11:37] <siekacz> 8.10
[11:37] <fosco_> by default it uses 4.1
[11:37] <fosco_> but you can add external repos for 4.2
[11:38] <siekacz> i know but i deleted kubuntu-experimental repo  from sources.list and there's still 4.2.1 apps shown in synaptic...
[11:39] <siekacz> kubuntu-experimental is slow and unstable
[11:51] <Mamarok> siekacz: do you have backports enabled?
[11:51] <Mamarok> 4.2.0 is in backports
[11:58] <ping> what's this
[11:59] <siekacz> where can i enable backports?
[12:00] <ping_> how can i start the shell in kubuntu
[12:00] <ping_> thanks
[12:02] <fosco_> ping_, do you men a terminal?alt+f2 and type konsole
[12:02] <fosco_> mean*
[12:06] <ping_> thanks  fosco
[12:13] <Dr_willis_AAO> !terminal
[12:31] <Guest26226> ciao
[12:36] <siekacz> does strigi from backports worl?
[12:36] <siekacz> *work
[12:43] <suklaa> hi! is anyone here could offer a help?
[12:43] <suklaa> i need to know how to set input, so badly
[12:48] <spawn57`> set input?
[12:49] <suklaa> yeah, i mean, i can't type German nor Chinese
[12:49] <suklaa> only english
[12:49] <suklaa> since i don't have these inputs
[12:49] <senorpedro> hi folks
[12:49] <suklaa> I'm new to linux, i used to use windows
[12:50] <suklaa> it's like you switch kyboards
[12:50] <senorpedro> how can i easily encrypt a folder?
[12:50] <suklaa> keyboards*
[12:50] <senorpedro> in 8.04
[12:54] <slow-motion> hi
[12:59] <senorpedro> is there something like cryptkeeper for kde? i dont want to install all the gnome libraries just for one package
[13:23] <_gl_> where in kde 4.2 can I set up the background for the login screen?
[13:23] <DarkSmoke> why can't i select 85hz on the new version of kubuntu
[13:23] <DarkSmoke> as in not the so new version of kubuntu
[13:24] <DarkSmoke> on ibex
[13:24] <DarkSmoke> on the version before i used to be able to get up to 85Hz
[13:35] <kubuntu_> hi ich hab beim "aufräumen" leider nicht nur den alten sondern auch den aktuellen kernel gelöscht "apt-get remove linux-image..." nun hab ich keine kernel mehr in ein paar foren habe ich jett gelesen das ich von der live cd den kernel kopieren kann, was muss ich da beachten???
[13:36] <fosco_> english please
[13:41] <kubuntu_> hello, i have removed my linux-kernel on Kubuntu 8.10 "apt-get remove linux-kernel..." now i have boot up with the Kubuntu 8.10 live cd and i want copy the Kernel from live cd to my Kubutu..how does it works#?
[13:44] <Guest35501> is there any FAQ still available for kubuntu 6.06?
[13:56] <darksmoke> does the new kubuntu auto detects the  max refresh rate?
[13:57] <darksmoke> cause its only showing me 60HZ but the resolution is good as it wa 85hz
[13:57] <darksmoke> in the old kubuntu i used to be able to select 85hz
[13:57] <darksmoke> pls any help?
[13:59] <Guest35501> what are working repositories?
[13:59] <Guest35501> i mean where
[14:04] <axiom> kde screensavers have started to require a password, even though "Require password to stop" is not checked in System Settings.  Just me?
[14:14] <Boski-PL> :)help needed with raid0 with unbootable xp installation and mounting issue:-(
[14:15] <Boski-PL> any1?//
[14:16] <Boski-PL>  :)help needed with raid0 with unbootable xp installation and mounting issue:-(!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[14:16] <Boski-PL>  :)help needed with raid0 with unbootable xp installation and mounting issue:-(pls
[14:16] <RurouniJones> Er
[14:16] <RurouniJones> This is a linux channel
[14:17] <RurouniJones> we don't support windows XP
[14:17] <Boski-PL> yeah i cant mount it
[14:17] <Boski-PL> on ubuntu
[14:17] <Boski-PL> just leting u know theres OS
[14:18] <Fanfare> softwareraid or hardwareraid?
[14:18] <Boski-PL> Sil
[14:18] <Boski-PL> guess soft
[14:19] <Boski-PL> i can see ntfs partition with gaprted
[14:19] <Boski-PL> but
[14:20] <Boski-PL> Gparted says "unable to read the contents of this file system"
[14:20] <Fanfare> do u see the partitions of the single devices? or the raid?
[14:20] <Boski-PL> both
[14:21] <Fanfare> and u cant mount the devices either?
[14:21] <Boski-PL> if u give me sudo command i can copy paste
[14:21] <Boski-PL> the info
[14:22] <Boski-PL> with gparted i c 2 300GB partitions and other 2 160GB
[14:22] <Guest35501> what so i need to do when adept can't use internet at all?
[14:22] <Guest35501> what do i need to do when adept can't use internet at all?
[14:23] <fosco_> Guest20369, use apt-get
[14:23] <fosco_> 35501
[14:23] <Guest35501> same problem there
[14:23] <fosco_> take a look at your proxy settings
[14:23] <Boski-PL> so im guessing gparted c raid0 cuz (300GB) r two disk
[14:23] <Guest35501> ok, how?
[14:25] <fosco_> in the kontrol panel
[14:26] <Boski-PL> raid0 hep needed :-(!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[14:27] <volodya> is there any way to make KDE *not* force its theme/fonts/etc on Gtk/Gnome applications?
[14:28] <Guest35501> no proxies, everything seems fine to me
[14:28] <Boski-PL>  raid0 help needed :-(!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!pls
[14:28] <Boski-PL> raid0 help needed :-(!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!pls
[14:29] <Guest35501> i still think the problem is in repositories
[14:29] <Boski-PL> raid0 help needed :-(!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!pls
[14:29] <Guest35501> where can i check those??
[14:30] <Boski-PL> raid0 help needed :-(!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!pls
[14:31] <jordi_> hello
[14:31] <jordi_> i'm trying to run mobloquer and i have a problem
[14:32] <jordi_> say invalid port/service SSL specified and not run help please
[14:33] <Boski-PL>  raid0 mounting issue, help needed!!!:'(
[14:33] <jordi_> i need some help for my problem please
[14:34] <Boski-PL>  raid0 mounting issue, help needed!!!:'(
[14:46]  * Dr_willis_AAO waits for an answerable question in clear/concice terms that he can answer. :)
[14:48] <keith_> hi
[14:48] <Guest35501> oh, yeah! i fixed it
[14:48] <Dr_willis_AAO> theres no need to msg people 'hello' keith_  :)
[14:49] <keith_> hi
[14:50] <keith_> how old are you
[15:01] <denis> !de
[15:15] <jordi_> any can hellp me with mobloquer?
[15:16] <jordi_> i need help to run moblocker
[15:18] <jordi_> hello??
[15:19] <jordi_> spanish channel?
[15:19] <fosco_> !es
[15:24] <porq69_> hi
[15:24] <porq69_> somebody can help me
[15:25] <porq69_> i dont have sound after upgrade
[15:27] <DaSkreech> !sound
[15:32] <UnixHarald> Does any one know where I am able to download Dekorator for Kubuntu?
[15:32] <XiXaQ> I'm using kubuntu 9.04a5 and I've installed a theme for it, but how do one change the theme for the window decorations?
[15:33] <bazhang> !jaunty
[15:33] <anil_> hi...have problem installing jhbuild.some help??
[15:34] <XiXaQ> ok then. How do I change window decorations in Kubuntu 8.10 with KDE 4.1?
[15:35] <bazhang> but you are using jaunty not intrepid
[15:35] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1 for that
[15:35] <XiXaQ> hehe, so you're refusing to answer just because of that?
[15:35] <bazhang> its completely different afaik
[15:35] <UnixHarald> yes
[15:36] <XiXaQ> KDE 4.2 is completely different from 4.1?
[15:36] <XiXaQ> wow..
[15:36] <bazhang> nope jaunty discussion is not in this channel
[15:37] <XiXaQ> I was not discussing jaunty. I was asking how to change a decoration in kde. I haven't used kde in probably ten years.
[15:44] <piumz> !it
[15:47] <UnixHarald> Does anyone here know where I can download Dekorator?
[15:48] <Elone> UnixHarald, google should know
[15:50] <DaSkreech> XiXaQ: Yes it is they rewrote the Desktop API between KDE 4.1 and 4.2 themes made for 4.1 will not work for 4.2
[15:50] <UnixHarald> Or is there some other good window dekorator for KDE?
[15:50] <UnixHarald> 4.2
[15:50] <DaSkreech> !info dekorator
[15:50] <DaSkreech> !info kwin-style-dekorator
[15:51] <DaSkreech> UnixHarald: ^^^
[15:51] <XiXaQ> it's nice to see which window has the focus.
[15:56] <lhx> hk\
[15:56] <lhx> hello everyone
[15:58] <DaSkreech> XiXaQ: Just change the window style
[15:58] <noren> DaSkreech: please help
[15:58] <DaSkreech> Yes?
[15:59] <XiXaQ> DaSkreech: window style? You mean theme?
[15:59] <noren> cant see anythning afetr loggin in left with blank black screen and mouse cursour... i think the kwin crashed
[16:00] <noren> well ??
[16:01] <DaSkreech> XiXaQ: decorations in the windows setings dialog
[16:01] <noren> i cant not see on the gui interface am using irssi frm alt f2 to get the help
[16:02] <XiXaQ> DaSkreech: System Settings > Window Behaviour?
[16:02] <DaSkreech> noren: ok
[16:02] <DaSkreech> noren: try sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[16:02] <XiXaQ> ah. I found it! Thanks :)
[16:02] <noren> drostie why Microsoft ??
[16:04] <DaSkreech> good
[16:05] <noren> i tried that but no good. it krashed again
[16:05] <noren> it says the application plaasma workspacce crash signal 11
[16:05] <noren> and then goes blank
[16:07] <DaSkreech> noren: Oh it's running now?
[16:08] <DaSkreech> noren: try this
[16:08] <noren> DaSkreech: its not running: giving plasma workspace craaash signal 11 and then goes black and blank
[16:08] <DaSkreech> export DISPLAY=:0.0
[16:08] <DaSkreech> then konsole&
[16:10] <noren> nothing happened when exported
[16:11] <alarm> hello, can i create a shortcut key to minimize all windows and show the desktop ?
[16:11] <noren> is there a whay to get back my default kwin setting back
[16:11] <DaSkreech> noren: Nothing should happen
[16:12] <DaSkreech> alarm: in theory yes
[16:12] <DaSkreech> alarm: although ctrl+F12 kinda does that
[16:12] <alarm> thats a practical answer
[16:12] <alarm> nah, dont mean by use of a widget
[16:12] <noren> DaSkreech: i thinnnk there some plasma problem but i cant fix from gui if my desktop just dont start
[16:12] <DaSkreech> alarm: I've never done it but if you ask in #kde how to bind a shortcut to the showdesktop plasmoid it should work
[16:13] <DaSkreech> noren: Did you run the export ?
[16:13] <noren> yes i did
[16:13] <DaSkreech> and then the konsole &
[16:13] <alarm> on kde3.5x there was an option for that , not anymore
[16:13] <DaSkreech>  ?
[16:13] <DaSkreech> alarm: I know it annoys me too
[16:13] <DaSkreech> noren: did konsole complain?
[16:14] <noren> yes now what
[16:14] <DaSkreech> go back to the alt+ctrl+F7
[16:14] <DaSkreech> You should have a konsole there
[16:15] <noren> Attemp to use QAction change profile and then its stuck midway
[16:15] <DaSkreech> hmm?
[16:15] <DaSkreech> the konsole?
[16:15] <noren> oh ok i do have tht!!  now what
[16:16] <noren> i guess i was looking at the wrong place earlier
[16:17] <DaSkreech> noren: Cool :) k You can run konversation & from there and login here
[16:17] <DaSkreech> You may have to run it twice
[16:17] <DaSkreech> the first time it will be minimized by default and you won't see the main window
[16:19] <Iwanas> hi, cant boot any linux cd got error "smp motherboard not found" any ideas how to solve this?
[16:19] <bazhang> Iwanas, what version of kubuntu
[16:19] <Iwanas> 8.10
[16:19] <noren_> ok i am here from the konversation
[16:19] <bazhang> and what arch
[16:19] <Iwanas> btw all linux cd does same
[16:20] <Iwanas> i386
[16:20] <DaSkreech> noren_: hooray!
[16:20] <pippo_> ovf|news|color
[16:20] <DaSkreech> Ok you can open a new tab in konsole so we have a clean slate
[16:20] <DaSkreech> what happens when you run plasma ?
[16:20] <noren_> DaSkreech: yeah the problem solving step ! !!!!!!!!!!!!!
[16:21] <Slartibartfast> Iwanas: Are you trying to install in Virtualbox ?
[16:21] <Iwanas> nop
[16:22] <noren_> everytime i log in after the splash screen, it gets stuck and say plasma workspace crash signal 11
[16:22] <Slartibartfast> Iwanas: HP pc ?
[16:22] <Iwanas> desktop althlon
[16:22] <DaSkreech> noren_: Yeah I'm trying to find out what's making it crash
[16:23] <DaSkreech> noren_: run plasma from the konsole
[16:23] <noren_> how my simply typing plasma
[16:23] <jorge_> saludos
[16:24] <lobster> saludos
[16:24] <jorge_> quiero borrar auteria, como se hace
[16:24] <jorge_> que rollo ese ubuntu
[16:24] <bazhang> !es
[16:24] <Slartibartfast> hmmm Sorry Iwanas i can't really be of help ... the error you gave together with Linux gives only one page of results in google ... and most are about virtualbox
[16:24] <draik_> DaSkreech: So it seems that my freezing was due to Xorg.conf. I don't have all of the goodies (or any, actually) for video, but I still lose my Internet connection for some oddball reason.
[16:25] <draik_> Hey there Slartibartfast
[16:25] <Slartibartfast> Yo :-) draik_
[16:25] <draik_> Slartibartfast: Got the audio to play (read:'magic fingers')
[16:25] <DaSkreech> noren_: yes
[16:26] <Slartibartfast> draik_: Thats good :-) ... but did i help you with that ? :-)
[16:26] <noren_> DaSkreech: #noren << please check this out
[16:27] <draik_> Slartibartfast: It turns out that the regular CD player on the desktop doesn't want to play nice. The DVD burner drive, however, does. It just doesn't load up on the New Device Notify widget. But Amarok played Led Zeplin really well :)
[16:28] <Slartibartfast> draik_:  Hehehe aaaaaaaaaa h OK OK ... Zeplin rockz :-)
[16:28] <draik_> Oh yea!
[16:29] <draik_> How do I stop LIRC from starting at boot along with some other things?
[16:29] <Slartibartfast> although a long time not played here
[16:30] <Dr_willis_AAO> lirc is a service isent it?
[16:30] <draik_> Dr_willis_AAO: Yes.
[16:30] <Dr_willis_AAO> so stop/disable the service
[16:30] <Dr_willis_AAO> !sysv
[16:31] <draik_> How/Where?
[16:31] <Dr_willis_AAO> i for get what gui tools they got for the. I do it by altering the /etc/rc##$
[16:31] <Dr_willis_AAO> stuff
[16:31] <Dr_willis_AAO> !upstart
[16:31] <Dr_willis_AAO> terhe ya go
[16:32] <draik_> THanks
[16:33] <Slartibartfast> Maybe rcconf can be handy too  ... need to install first
[16:34] <Slartibartfast> !rcconf
[16:34] <Slartibartfast> ah .. to bad :-)
[16:35] <Dr_willis_AAO> theres dozens of tools to configure the sysv style init system.Its worth reading up on
[16:36] <draik_> Seems that upstart is already installed on my desktop.
[16:36] <draik_> Won't run in CLI or GUI
[16:36] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis_AAO: You mean update-rc.d  ?
[16:36] <Dr_willis_AAO> theres otehrs besides that IMPOSSIBLE TO REMBER  command. :)
[16:37] <Dr_willis_AAO> what other command do ya know of that has a - and a . in thename :P
[16:37] <DaSkreech> update-*
[16:37] <DaSkreech> They all have a - in it
[16:38] <Dr_willis_AAO> cant recall ever using any of them
[16:38] <Dr_willis_AAO> but i tend to manage the links myself
[16:38] <DaSkreech> Yeah they aren't that popular
[16:38] <DaSkreech> Me too
[16:41] <agapito> ciao dov'è la sezione italiana?
[16:42] <agapito> qualcuno conosce il canale italiano?
[16:43] <Slartibartfast> !it
[16:43] <agapito> grazie
[16:43] <Slartibartfast> no problemo :-)
[17:03] <kishore> why is the kde4 version of kexi missing in jaunty and intrepid too? koffice2 beta is otherwise available
[17:04] <DaSkreech> kishore: #kubuntu-devel
[17:04] <victim> maybe they haven't been converted to kde4
[17:04] <DaSkreech> They have
[17:04] <kishore> DaSkreech: ok
[17:07] <noren> hi i am back here again but no desktop
[17:07] <noren> plasma problem help me fix this!!
[17:08] <noren> DaSkreech: are u therre
[17:09] <tanjir> alt+ctrl+F7?
[17:09] <noren> tanjir: ??
[17:09] <tanjir> noren: did you try alt+ctrl+F7?
[17:10] <noren> tanjir: yes i have alt ctrl f7 but theres no desktop i get plaasma workspace crash signall 11 and then quits to blanks screen
[17:12] <noren> wow the room seems to be empty !!
[17:14] <noren> is there any separate package for the desktop in kde
[17:15] <lhx> wow ! I 'v just installed my Ubuntu Ultimate 2.1!
[17:15] <noren> lhx: whats tht
[17:15] <lhx> A Kubuntu !
[17:16] <rods> how do I check whether I have an i-386 or amd64 system?
[17:16] <lhx> It's really cool!
[17:17] <DaSkreech> noren: ok same Dbus issue I'll guess
[17:17] <DaSkreech> noren: Hold on let me try figure this out
[17:17] <noren> rods: intel i386 and amd for amd64
[17:17] <noren> DaSkreech: should i reinstall the kde plasma workspace if possible
[17:18] <rods> noren how do I check in the terminal?
[17:19] <lhx> my cpu is AMD64 but,I use Ubuntu-i386
[17:19] <noren> lhx: i had installed ubuntu 64 bit bit version earlier now i am using kubuntu i368 version now
[17:20] <tkmr> Hello. I'm Running Kubuntu 8.10, KDE 4.2, and I'm trying to find a plasmoid similar to Ubuntu's Deskbar. Any suggestions?
[17:21] <lhx> ha,it seems like i386 has much more software than amd64
[17:22] <shadeslayer> hi i have two buttons to start my dell notebook,one starts Dell Media Direct and the bigger one starts the normal boot procedure
[17:23] <shadeslayer> how do i change the maps to them so that the bigger button boots to linux and the smaller to windows
[17:23] <noren> !hi | shadeslayer
[17:23] <shadeslayer> :)
[17:23] <noren> shadeslayer: i dont think its possible
[17:23] <shadeslayer> i think it is
[17:24] <bazhang> shadeslayer, no way possible
[17:24] <shadeslayer> i read it somewhere
[17:24] <bazhang> where
[17:24] <bazhang> please provide a link
[17:24] <shadeslayer> unfourtunatley its a MAC forum
[17:24] <shadeslayer> i read it 5 months ago
[17:24] <shadeslayer> lol
[17:24] <noren> because chosing from a multiboot i havent heard anything like that
[17:24] <tkmr> Hello. I'm Running Kubuntu 8.10, KDE 4.2, and I'm trying to find a plasmoid similar to Ubuntu's Deskbar. Any suggestions?
[17:24] <bazhang> no, simply not possible
[17:25] <shadeslayer> oh found a link
[17:25] <shadeslayer> http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=181059
[17:25] <Ellana> Hello
[17:25] <shadeslayer> !hi | Ellana
[17:25] <noren> tkmr: www.kde-look.org check this place
[17:26] <tkmr> noren: Been looking there and haven't really found anything.
[17:26] <shadeslayer> bazhang: checked out the link??
[17:26] <bazhang> shadeslayer, was there a walkthrough or tutorial for ubuntu on there?
[17:27] <shadeslayer> bazhang: this too http://forums.techguy.org/unix-linux/569616-vista-ubuntu-linux-dule-boot.html
[17:27] <shadeslayer> bazhang: check that link ^
[17:27] <bazhang> !dualboot
[17:27] <bazhang> shadeslayer, ^^
[17:28] <shadeslayer> what??
[17:28] <shadeslayer> i want seprate buttons
[17:28] <shadeslayer> like button1>boots to linux
[17:29] <shadeslayer> button 2>boots to win
[17:29] <bazhang> shadeslayer, please dont use enter key after two words or so
[17:29] <shadeslayer> ok
[17:30] <shadeslayer> bazhang: any idea how to accomplish this??
[17:30] <bazhang> shadeslayer, you had an earlier project involving the LEDs on your computer; how did that fare?
[17:30] <shadeslayer> haha
[17:30] <shadeslayer> failed :P
[17:30] <bazhang> shadeslayer, what was it exactly
[17:31] <shadeslayer> unfourtunately i could not find xtleds
[17:31] <shadeslayer> bazhang: ever used tleds??
[17:31] <noren> DaSkreech: lemme reboot and see
[17:31] <noren> quit
[17:32] <shadeslayer> bazhang: well its a nifty tool which works to my liking with the leds,only without X
[17:32] <shadeslayer> ><
[17:34] <shadeslayer> so anyone who has the slightest idea on this??
[17:34] <bazhang> shadeslayer, there is no tutorial or solution in that link. just a few what-ifs. clearly a no-go imo
[17:35] <shadeslayer> yeah
[17:35] <shadeslayer> i read the complete thing,just speculation,tho it explains what im trying to accomplish
[17:35] <JuJuBee> I have a blueray player in my laptop.  Can I play movies with Kubuntu?  Kde 4.2.1 Kernel 2.6.27-11
[17:38] <noren> i m back but no luck with the fix
[17:38] <shadeslayer> bazhang: this seems to have solved http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=180795
[17:38] <shadeslayer> *it
[17:38] <vbgunz_> how do you *scroll* in tty 1 through 6? when something flashes by, how do you scroll back?
[17:39] <shadeslayer> bazhang: ooh found something at ubuntu forums as well
[17:39] <vbgunz_> shadeslayer: what you looking for?
[17:39] <shadeslayer> bazhang: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=3113451
[17:40] <shadeslayer> vbgunz_: i have two buttons to start my notebook button 1>dell media direct,button 2>normal boot
[17:40] <vbgunz_> ahh, just curious. I have no experience there :/
[17:41] <shadeslayer> vbgunz_: im trying to get button 1>windows,button2>linux
[17:41] <shadeslayer> hehe
[17:41] <vbgunz_> thats sweet
[17:41] <vbgunz_> I use grub menu but that would be cool
[17:41] <noren> DaSkreech: is there a way to reinstall the plasma part only
[17:42] <shadeslayer> vbgunz_: yeah i know
[17:42]  * shadeslayer embarks on his ambitious mission
[17:42] <momo93m> good evening
[17:43] <DaSkreech> noren: Yeah you can try kquitapp plasma && mkdir ~/plasmabkup && mv ~/.kde/share/config/plasma* ~/plasmabkup && plasma
[17:43] <JamesB192> vbgunz_, shift+pgup I think will allow limited console scrollback IIRC.
[17:44] <vbgunz_> I can try
[17:45] <vbgunz_> JamesB192: sweet.  damn, can I make tty 1 through 6 unlimited scrolling as in konsole?
[17:45] <noren> DaSkreech: no good a long error came up
[17:46] <DaSkreech> noren: pastebin
[17:47] <noren> http://paste.ubuntu.com/127846/
[17:47] <JamesB192> not that I know of. and for purely pull-a-theory-out-my-bum reasons I would say NO. you might be able to extend it, but I don't know how. you might ask in ##linux or something.
[17:48] <vbgunz_> am looking for scrollback framebuffer on google
[17:50] <baldaris1> hey..
[17:50] <baldaris1> hey have setup a smtp server , when i am writing a php script to access mail server , i am able to authenticate using saslautd,
[17:51] <baldaris1> 554 5.7.1 : Relay access denied
[17:51] <baldaris1> can any one help me with settings..
[17:52] <baldaris1> ?
[17:57] <josh_> have a question I have a odd sound issue. I'm able to stream audio from off the internet like off youtube but when I try to watch a movie off my computer ill get the picture but no sound?
[17:57] <vbgunz_> JamesB192: I was really trying I guess to figure out the scrollback buffer for screen. what you say works but since I work in screen usually I found out about defscrollback ... basically 5000 is pretty good right now but you enter scrollback ^a-[ ... then basically scrolling is easy. press ESC to exit the mode
[17:59] <giarca> kubuntu 8.10: with vlc's plugin for firefox doesn't load the video stuck into a black screen with "Loading video..." messagge...
[18:00] <darksmoke> is there a way to install firefox without the full list of other dependency B.S that is not needed in anyway?
[18:00] <giarca> oh my god... worst english I ever wrote... hope can bu understood
[18:00] <noren> is it suppossse to be in root directory or home
[18:00] <JamesB192> ah. I dunno much about screen. When you said unlimited, I was like 'Okay and where do you want to store possibly terabytes of scrollback data.'
[18:00] <noren> oops typo
[18:01]  * JamesB192 is silly, but say 128K of scrollback data per console is not unreasonable on a system like the one I have now.
[18:02] <darksmoke> is there a way to install firefox without the full list of other dependency B.S that is not needed in anyway?
[18:03] <Dr_willis_AAO> 'use the source luke' ?
[18:03] <darksmoke> ?
[18:03] <darksmoke> source luke?
[18:03] <darksmoke> :s
[18:03] <Dr_willis_AAO> Or try the various binaries out i guess.
[18:03] <Dr_willis_AAO> i never noticed much bs..but then again.. i always have KDE andgnome both installed
[18:04] <darksmoke> like installing synaptics manager and ubufox  on kubuntu?
[18:04] <darksmoke> wtf do kubuntu users need synaptics for?
[18:04] <darksmoke> its not even a firefox dependency :S
[18:05] <Dr_willis_AAO> Dont know, dont care really...
[18:05] <Dr_willis_AAO> check the forums perhaps?
[18:06] <rawr___> here's a noob question.  when i install "something-doc" and the doc files get installed as html files in usr/share/doc, what's the easiest way to access those
[18:06] <Dr_willis_AAO> be sure you are not accidently installing the 'reccomended' packages. as well
[18:06] <bo> how to find out, which codename my version has? I have kubuntu version 8.04
[18:06] <Dr_willis_AAO> rawr___,   use the browser you like to open the files.
[18:06] <Dr_willis_AAO> rawr___,  bookmark the /usr/share/doc dir also :)
[18:06] <rawr___> ah
[18:06] <rawr___> dr_willis: bookmarking the dir i guess is what i was looking for
[18:07] <rawr___> thanks :D
[18:07] <goofey> darksmoke: there's an option for apt-get to ignore depends - this will install firefox on kde4 without all the gnome stuff
[18:07] <Dr_willis_AAO> or make a shortcut from it to your home dir.
[18:07] <noren> Dr_willis_AAO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/127847/ << please help
[18:07] <noren> DaSkreech: are u still there
[18:07] <Dr_willis_AAO> noren,  summarize it perhaps?
[18:08] <Dr_willis_AAO> its almost bed time for me
[18:08] <noren> no plasma
[18:08] <DaSkreech> JontheEchidna: ping
[18:08] <noren> it crashes on every login
[18:08] <DaSkreech> bo: lsb_release -a
[18:08] <DaSkreech> noren: yeah sorry I'm runing around doing a few things
[18:09] <DaSkreech> It's a dbus erro I know that
[18:09] <Dr_willis_AAO> I dont know much about trouble shooting kde.. other then to reset all settings back to defaults
[18:09] <bo> tnx DaSkreech
[18:09] <DaSkreech> noren: do you have qdbus installed ?
[18:09] <noren> Dr_willis_AAO: tht will also do
[18:09] <noren> DaSkreech: i dont know i have never installed it separetly
[18:12] <noren> Dr_willis_AAO: how to put back everything back to default
[18:15] <tboxmy> anyone knows how to print the planner?
[18:16] <tboxmy> it doesnt have the option to change the gantt view columns for printing.
[18:20] <JamesB192> noren, delete some entries in recent documents (not)?
[18:20] <tanjir> can anyone tell me how do i get my menubar back in okular? :-|
[18:20] <noren> JamesB192: what ya mean
[18:21] <tanjir> i got it... ctrl+M :D
[18:23] <JamesB192> runnning 'rm -v /home/noren/.kde/share/apps/RecentDocuments/*' would shave about 18 lines off that log.
[18:23] <sj> so is anyone running Kubuntu 9 and having problems with most plasmoids not wanting to run?
[18:24] <noren> JamesB192: but is that the main prob i guess not...  !! ?? :(
[18:24] <JamesB192> but that's beside the point. I think it is a bug setting up signal handling.
[18:25] <JamesB192> probably due to an altered configuration file.
[18:26] <noren> JamesB192: is there a possibillity of getting back the default kwin plaasma configuration
[18:27] <noren> is therre a way of removing all the widget i had installed on the desktop fromm konsole
[18:28] <gizmobay> I have a dual boot system, in kde 3.5 I use to have a pulldown that would let me boot into my choice of OS when I did a restart. I set this up in kcontrol. I'm trying to do this in KDE 4.2 but I don't have kcontrol. Does anyone know how to do this?
[18:29] <noren> gizmobay: try the system setting >> advanced panel>> grub settiing
[18:29] <JamesB192> I think on first run per-user it doesn't have a conf file. so you might dig in ~/.kde probable in share/apps/config or something. *moderate* use of rm could prove fruitful.
[18:30] <noren> JamesB192: i have already tried mv the complete .kde folder
[18:31] <JamesB192> your lucky number are pi, the square root of two and Avogadros'(sp?) number.
[18:31] <JamesB192> I don't have KDE4 installed on this os/machine ATM, so I'm mostly guessing.
[18:33] <gizmobay> thanks, noren
[18:34] <chengdong> hi
[18:34] <noren> gizmobay: ur welcome
[18:35] <noren> JamesB192: DaSkreech: Dr_willis_AAO: how about deleting the .kde folder altogather
[18:36] <DaSkreech> noren: Doubt ful but you can try
[18:36] <DaSkreech> noren: don't delete it
[18:36] <DaSkreech> mv ~/.kde ~/.kdebkup
[18:36] <noren> ya will make a backup
[18:37] <Dr_willis_AAO> im always removing my .kde* and .gnome* configs and settings :)
[18:41] <DaSkreech> noren: no go?
[18:41] <noren> nope still the same
[18:41] <DaSkreech> noren: Ask in #kde
[18:42] <DaSkreech> It's probably an easy dbus solution
[18:42] <noren> what is this org.freedesktop.dbus error
[18:42] <DaSkreech> Did you cjeck if you had qdbus installed?
[18:42] <noren> how can i check
[18:42] <DaSkreech> noren: dbus is a channel for programs to talk to each other plasma needs to speakto it but it can't
[18:43] <jals> hi, i need to reinstall windows on my dual boot system which i realise will mess up grub, what's the easiest way to fix this once windows is installed?
[18:44] <DaSkreech> noren: apt-cache policy qdbus
[18:44] <DaSkreech> !grub | jals
[18:44] <jals> thanks DaSkreech
[18:45] <noren> no i dont have
[18:45] <noren> also i could not install it when tried it says package not available
[18:46] <DaSkreech> ok
[18:47] <DaSkreech> noren: Wait no it's libqdbusbridge
[18:49] <noren> DaSkreech: cant it be fixed if i reinstall kde-desktop
[18:50] <noren> no i did not have tht installed installing it right now
[18:55] <noren> DaSkreech: how can i reinstall kde4-desktop
[19:00] <DaSkreech> noren: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop --reinstall I think
[19:00] <baldaris1> hey i am trying to send mail via smtp
[19:00] <baldaris1> it says smtp relay denied..
[19:02] <polydektes> got the live cd going now
[19:02] <polydektes> it looks slick i suppose but i have to say... i aint liking it too much
[19:03] <polydektes> almost like it turned my laptop into a cellphone
[19:03] <polydektes> lol
[19:03] <polydektes> going to have to try the original ubuntu
[19:03] <polydektes> im hoping that's better
[19:08] <noren> DaSkreech: i found this interesting thread seems i m not alone http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3102117.0
[19:08] <DaSkreech> Ah
[19:08] <DaSkreech> Any resolutions?
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[19:11] <noren> DaSkreech: none i gues even i am having now kde4.2.1 any way to get it back to 4.2
[19:12] <DaSkreech> noren: did you ask in #kubuntu-devel ?
[19:13] <noren> nope not yet
[19:15] <DaSkreech> MIght help
[19:15] <[-Haza-]> Evening folks. I need a very lightweight tool to play midi files
[19:16] <Ellana> oh yeah, forgot it's English here O_o'
[19:16] <[-Haza-]> Rosegarden is to complex for such a simple task
[19:16] <[-Haza-]> Any pointers?
[19:17] <noren> DaSkreech: cant seem to geet any help tonight !! :(
[19:18] <DaSkreech> sudo apt-get remove dbus then sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[19:20] <jerware> hi
[19:20] <jerware> hi
[19:20] <jerware> running intrepid
[19:20] <jerware> kde 4.1  why is there no kcontrol ?
[19:20] <DaSkreech> relaced by system settings
[19:20] <DaSkreech> Mostly because no one wanted to code kcontrol
[19:22] <jerware> ok
[19:34] <DaSkreech> noren: No answer in -devel
[19:36] <kevin1979> test
[19:38] <kevin1979> zit ik nu op ubuntu nl of niet :p
[19:46] <draik> I can't seem to activate the nvidia driver. I choose 173 [recommended] and click on Activate. It's been sitting like that for over 10 minutes now.
[19:47] <verus> hi, amarok 2.0.2 was released recently, what is the usual delay before it hit the kubuntu reps?
[19:50] <Laeborg> i have a 180gb harddrive, and im going to install kubuntu on this now. But how big should my swap, / and /home be ?
[19:51] <verus> make your swap twice your ram
[19:52] <SJrX> The installer should do it for you
[19:52] <verus> don't see a reason to make /home a different partition either
[19:52] <SJrX> I did that, and now I regret it :'(
[19:52] <Laeborg> verus: i reffer to have a /home partition
[19:52] <Laeborg> easier to reinstall kubuntu then
[19:52] <SJrX> it makes re-installing kind of easier, but now I'm out of space and want to cry
[19:55] <draik> Laeborg: I'm working on recovering what I lost from when I put NTFS on my old HDD and put Kubuntu on this new HDD. I lost it all and have been trying to recover ever since; 5 weeks now.
[19:56] <draik> Laeborg: If I would have had a /home partition, I would probably not be kicking myself from the moment I wake to the moment I sleep.
[19:56] <Laeborg> 4gb for swap, 15gb for filesystem, rest for /home
[19:57] <DaSkreech> SJrX: How much did you give for / ?
[19:57] <Laeborg> draik: for a week ago i formated my kubuntu on my laptop, i had the /home partition, so i could just format the / partition, without any loss of bookmarks, cookies ect.
[19:57] <draik> I figure you really only need about 8GB for /
[19:58] <Laeborg> well then i take 10gb
[20:00] <draik> Is there a way to retrieve things from an old HDD?
[20:00] <draik> I really want my pix, music and docs back.
[20:01] <draik> The good thing is that I had all I need on the Desktop directory. I had a folder for pix, music, docs and misc.
[20:01] <DaSkreech> draik: Live CD ?
[20:01] <draik> DaSkreech: I'm on this HDD and the stuff I need is on another HDD connected on this desktop.
[20:02] <DaSkreech> mount it
[20:02] <draik> DaSkreech: I had XP/Kubuntu on one drive, then I formatted the Kubuntu partition to be NTFS.
[20:02] <helen__> hi
[20:02] <draik> I know it's not completely gone, but I can't seem to recover it.
[20:03] <DaSkreech> you installed Kubuntu on NTFS?
[20:03] <draik> No. One HDD with 2 partitions
[20:03] <draik> part 1 was XP, part 2 was Kubuntu
[20:04] <DaSkreech> ok
[20:04] <SJrX> I gave 37G to / 24 G to /home
[20:04] <DaSkreech> SJrX: Ouch. used to Windows I see
[20:04] <SJrX> rofl yes I have a Windows XP and  Windows 2003 partitions all pigging up space on this drive too.
[20:05] <draik> I'm still trying to find a way of getting my stuff back. I haven't mounted that drive up ever since the incident; 5 weeks ago
[20:05] <DaSkreech> SJrX: Yeah For a desktop linux needs like 10 GB for /
[20:06] <DaSkreech> I have 7 and I've never come close tofilling it and I randomly install anything that catches my fancy
[20:06] <DaSkreech> draik: well you know how to mount it
[20:07] <draik> Yes, but I would be mounting NTFS. I wouldn't be mounting Ext3 as it is technically no longer there.
[20:07] <DaSkreech> For a server you probably need a lot more space for / but a desktop should be able to fly with 10GB in most cases easily
[20:07] <DaSkreech> draik:
[20:07] <DaSkreech> Ok So lets see if this is straight
[20:07] <DaSkreech> You had a ext3 parition
[20:07] <DaSkreech> with things on it you wanted
[20:07] <SJrX> How hard is it to resize partitions, non LVM?
[20:07] <draik> DaSkreech: So far you're right
[20:08] <DaSkreech> you formatted it and then want the files back?
[20:08] <draik> Yes
[20:08] <DaSkreech> SJrX: Not that hard I guess get a PartedMagic LIveCD and boot from it
[20:08] <DaSkreech> !info testdisk | draik
[20:08] <SJrX> PartedMagic?
[20:08] <DaSkreech> hi helen__
[20:09] <DaSkreech> SJrX: live Cd with GParted and some tools You can't resize / if you are on it obviously
[20:09] <SJrX> excellent
[20:09] <draik> DaSkreech: I hope that works. I've been using foremost for the last 24-48 hours and I'm not getting great results
[20:11] <draik> Not sure what is happening now, but I don't have anything more than Konversation open and I can't do anything but that right now.
[20:12] <draik_> So it would seem that my desktop has gone offline
[20:12] <DaSkreech> draik_: kwin probably crashed
[20:14] <draik_> :(
[20:25] <draik> DaSkreech: testdisk doesn't seem to work on the /dev/sdc1
[20:25] <DaSkreech> you may have to sudo it
[20:26] <draik> Yep, that did it
[20:26] <draik> Too bad it only shows NTFS :(
[20:26] <DaSkreech> Do a scan then a deep scan
[20:26] <draik> I just need to scan sectors 200000000 to 976768002
[20:26] <noren> DaSkreech: are u still there, i guess removing the dbus was a great mistake
[20:27] <DaSkreech> noren: did you reinstall it again?
[20:28] <noren> after tht i lost the network connectivity, now i have again installed ubuntu8.4 <<<< what aa backtrack !! :(
[20:28] <DaSkreech> noren: what?
[20:28] <DaSkreech> why didn't you just load up a live cd ?
[20:29] <noren> i installed ubuntu on a different partition,  my live kubuntu cd got crashed << my bad luck<< will have to burn a new cd and then try
[20:29] <DaSkreech> noren: Hmm ok
[20:29] <DaSkreech> well fine you still have the partition then?
[20:29] <DaSkreech> can you mount it?
[20:29] <draik> DaSkreech: Well, that seems to be running smoothly with a scan.
[20:30] <noren> yes i can
[20:30] <DaSkreech> noren: ok mount it then chroot into it
[20:31] <login_> i have single question, can i do? sorry, english very poor
[20:31] <DaSkreech> login_: Sure
[20:31] <DaSkreech> You can get a native language room if you like
[20:31] <login_> i need address about evolution receive mail from hotmail, is it possible?
[20:32] <DaSkreech> login_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=200408
[20:33] <DaSkreech> login_: What language do you speak?
[20:33] <login_> portuguese
[20:33] <DaSkreech> noren_: Ok where is this from
[20:33] <DaSkreech> !pt
[20:33] <noren_> how and what to chroot
[20:33] <login_> thanks very well - obrigado! bye! god bless you!
[20:33] <DaSkreech> :-)
[20:34] <DaSkreech> noren_: mount it
[20:34] <noren_> i got the partition mounted automatically
[20:34] <DaSkreech> noren_: Of course
[20:34] <DaSkreech> ok sudo chroot /mount/point
[20:36] <noren_> chroot: cannot change root directory to /mount/point: No such file or directory
[20:37] <DaSkreech> noren_: Ha ha I meant where ever it's mounted to
[20:38] <noren_> how to check where its mounted to
[20:38] <DaSkreech> noren_: type mount
[20:39] <noren_> /media/sda5 << did u mean this
[20:39] <DaSkreech> no
[20:39] <DaSkreech> Where is that mounted to
[20:39] <DaSkreech> noren_: Oh wiat
[20:39] <DaSkreech>  yes
[20:39] <DaSkreech> ^_^;
[20:40] <SandGorgon> is there any installable CD with KDE 4.2 - I want to give it to a couple of friends
[20:40] <DaSkreech> noren_: sudo chroot /media/sda5
[20:40] <DaSkreech> SandGorgon: Jaunty
[20:40] <noren_> ok done
[20:41] <DaSkreech> What happens when you sudo apt-get install dbus from there?
[20:41] <SandGorgon> DaSkreech: is that usable ? I thought it was extremely unstable as far as X is concerned
[20:43] <DaSkreech> SandGorgon: Is the two week wait going to kill them?
[20:43] <noaXess> wow. my guidance-power-manager wont' work, since last upgrade
[20:44] <noren_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/127918/ << here with error
[20:44] <DaSkreech> noren_: Doesn't work if you sudo apt-get install from tehre?
[20:44] <noaXess> see here error from guidance-power-manager
[20:44] <noaXess> http://paste.ubuntu.com/127920/
[20:45] <noren_> i guess i have to add the repos here also
[20:45] <DaSkreech> noren_:  no
[20:46] <SandGorgon> DaSkreech: lol... well, the guys in question are going to reformat and reinstall their Vista laptops and I wanted to get them hooked on to KDE
[20:47] <DaSkreech> noren_: outside of the chroot do this for me
[20:47] <noren_> noaXess: welcome to the "" org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply ""<< problem :D
[20:47] <noaXess> noren_: wow.. lot of probs?
[20:47] <DaSkreech>  sudo apt-get install dbus consolekit dbus-x11 --reinstall --download-only
[20:48] <noaXess> DaSkreech: then, it should work after that?
[20:48] <noren_> what do u mean by outside chroot should i start fresh console
[20:48] <DaSkreech> noren_: yes
[20:50] <noren_> i m bit confused will these be installing in the Ubuntu partition or kubuntu partition ??
[20:50] <noaXess> DaSkreech: should your workaround also solve my problem with guidance-pm
[20:50] <DaSkreech> noaXess: no This is a different problem
[20:50] <noaXess> k
[20:50] <DaSkreech> noren_: in the ubuntu but we will move them to the kubuntu
[20:51] <noren_> well it completed
[20:51] <DaSkreech> ok ls /var/cache/apt/archives
[20:51] <DaSkreech> Do ou see files ?
[20:52] <noren_> well a small prob i use ubuntu64bit
[20:52] <DaSkreech> noren_: ha ha ok
[20:52] <noaXess> noren_: you mean it will be solved soon ;)
[20:52] <DaSkreech> go to packages.ubuntu.com
[20:53] <DaSkreech> and search for dbus
[20:53] <DaSkreech> hold on let me find the page
[20:53] <draik> What replaced acroread?
[20:53] <noaXess> okular
[20:53] <noaXess> draik
[20:53] <draik> Thanks noaXess.
[20:53] <noaXess> !info okular | draik
[20:54] <DaSkreech> noren_: http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/dbus
[20:54] <DaSkreech> Download the .deb
[20:54] <lena> hi
[20:54] <noren_> well which one should i check the intrepid intrepid update or intrepid backport
[20:54] <DaSkreech> hi lena
[20:54] <noaXess> hi lena
[20:54] <DaSkreech> intreprid
[20:55] <lena> can anyone speak german?
[20:55] <DaSkreech> I guess at this point it doesn't make a difference
[20:55] <DaSkreech> !de
[20:55] <DaSkreech> noren_: Follow the links on that page for consolekit and dbus-x11 as well
[20:55] <DaSkreech> so you should have three .deb files
[20:55] <ka> Anyone else experiencing strange scrollbars in firefox and thunderbird?
[20:57] <BentFranklin> I'm doing a full system dump using tar.  Are there any directories I should NOT include?  I'm using gzip so it strips leading /'s.  Any other pitfalls of tar I shoujld worry about?
[20:57] <DaSkreech> BentFranklin: /tmp ?
[20:58] <noren_> ok got all the three .deb files
[20:59] <DaSkreech> noren_: copy them to /media/sda5/var/cache/apt/archives
[20:59] <jerware> hi
[20:59] <DaSkreech> hi
[21:00] <jerware> my clock on the taskbar/tray is in military time.
[21:00] <jerware> how do i put it in regular people time ?
[21:01] <tanjir> jerware: what do u mean by military time?
[21:01] <DaSkreech> noren_: then in the chroot run the apt-get install again
[21:01] <tanjir> i wonder if there is any alien time :P
[21:02] <jerware> tanjir: it says 16:02 where i prefer 4:02
[21:02] <noren_> not allowing me to copy access denied
[21:03] <tanjir> oh... it also says 16:02 on my computer... :-/
[21:03] <DaSkreech> noren_: sudo cp
[21:03] <jerware> if 16:02 is military time, then 4:02 is regular people time.
[21:03] <jerware> yea i want regular people time.
[21:03] <noren_> oh ok
[21:03] <jerware> like how my alarm clock and regular people clocks show.
[21:05] <tanjir> jerware: got it... i tried it other day didn't find anything... let me try again
[21:07] <DaSkreech> noren_: nothing?
[21:08] <draik> scan is 97% done and has only found the NTFS at this point DaSkreech
[21:09] <eagles0513875> hey guys im having issues getting shoutcast to start :(
[21:09] <jussi01> jerware: system settings, regional and language, time and dates
[21:09] <eagles0513875> anyone know how i can start it
[21:09] <jussi01> eagles0513875: had a read of: man shoutcast
[21:09] <jussi01> ??
[21:09] <jerware> jussi01: it's already on gregorian calender
[21:10] <jerware> i dont see "regular people time"
[21:10] <noren_> still error
[21:10] <jussi01> jerware: yeah, check the time format
[21:10] <jerware> ahh thanx
[21:10] <jussi01> :)
[21:10] <jerware> wait a tic. i applied the other time format.  it'ss stil 16:10
[21:10] <lena> how i can go to the german support?
[21:11] <eagles0513875> jussi01: yes i have
[21:11] <jussi01> jerware: did you notice the popup?
[21:11] <jerware> yeah
[21:11] <DaSkreech> noren_: so in the chroot when you do ls /var/cache/apt/archives/dbus* you se the deb files ?
[21:11] <jerware> i clicked ok
[21:11] <jussi01> jerware: so a logout should help
[21:11] <jerware> or w/e
[21:11] <jerware> ok
[21:11] <DaSkreech> lena: type /join #kubuntu-de
[21:12] <noren_> root@noren-desktop:/# ls /var/cache/apt/archives/dbus*
[21:12] <noren_> /var/cache/apt/archives/dbus_1.2.4-0ubuntu1_i386.deb  /var/cache/apt/archives/dbus-x11_1.2.4-0ubuntu1_i386.deb
[21:12] <BentFranklin> DaSkreech: What about proce?  Tar errors, saying the fiels changed while writing.  Also, there's a lot of weird device drivers.  Will they get restored correctly?
[21:12] <DaSkreech> noren_:  and the kubuntu is not a 64 bit install ?
[21:12] <BentFranklin> ^proc
[21:12] <DaSkreech> BentFranklin: don't back up /dev or /proc
[21:12] <DaSkreech> They don't really exist
[21:13] <noren_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/127931/ ,, this is the error
[21:13] <noren_> not it is i386 kubuntu
[21:13] <DaSkreech> noren_: hmm
[21:14] <BentFranklin> DaSkreech: If I don't include them, and I restore on a root partition, will they get recreated somehow on the next bootup?
[21:14] <eagles0513875> !info glibc6
[21:14] <eagles0513875> !glibc6
[21:14] <DaSkreech> in chroot do sudo dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/dbus* /var/cache/apt/archives/consolekit*
[21:14] <DaSkreech> BentFranklin: Yes
[21:15] <DaSkreech> They are recreated on each boot
[21:16] <noren_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/127936/ << lemme try the kubuntu live cd once more tell me how can i rectify after i boot up the live cd
[21:17] <noaXess> does anybody has latest upgrades and alsoproblem with guidance-power-manager?
[21:17] <DaSkreech> noren_: Wait
[21:17] <DaSkreech> This is the same process
[21:17] <eagles0513875> jussi01: any idea as to my issue
[21:17] <BentFranklin> DaSkreech: There's also hundreds of files in /sys where gzip says "File shrank by 4085 bytes; padding with zeros"  Are those going to be corrupted?
[21:18] <noren_> oh ok
[21:18] <noaXess> it can't be started cause a missing /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/PyQt4/uic/widget-plugins/kde4.py
[21:18] <BentFranklin> I try to be as paranoid as posisble about backups
[21:19] <DaSkreech> noren_: sudo apt-get -f install
[21:21] <noren_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/127944/ << here again
[21:22] <DaSkreech> noren_: apt-cache policy dbus
[21:23] <DaSkreech> is it installed ?
[21:23] <noaXess> !backup | BentFranklin
[21:23] <DaSkreech>  does it have an installed version ?
[21:24] <BentFranklin> noaXess: Thanks, I've already been all over those, I think.  I ended up rolling my own script.
[21:24] <noaXess> BentFranklin: me too :)
[21:24] <noren_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/127949/
[21:24] <noaXess> just for make a image from the whole hd i use dd
[21:24] <DaSkreech> noren_: apt-cache policy dbus-x11
[21:25] <noren_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/127950/
[21:25] <prophezy> Hi everyone
[21:25] <DaSkreech> noren_: this is in the chroot ?
[21:26] <prophezy> can anyone help me to install skype on Kubuntu 8.10
[21:26] <DaSkreech> !skype
[21:26] <noren_> yes
[21:26] <BentFranklin> noaXess: Here's my script http://paste.ubuntu.com/127953/.  I'm looking for a good list of excludes.
[21:26] <vbgunz_> the latest jaunty updates blew out the Show Desktop widget. isn't there supposed to be a shortcut for it anyway?
[21:26] <DaSkreech> noren_: Ok reboot you shoudl have back net I think
[21:26] <vbgunz_> whats the shortcut for Show Desktop?
[21:27] <noren_> ok lemme try
[21:30] <DaSkreech> noren: Whoot?
[21:30] <noren> prob again
[21:31] <DaSkreech> aww
[21:31] <DaSkreech> ok
[21:31] <DaSkreech> No net?
[21:31] <BentFranklin> DaSkreech: Is /sys similar to /dev/ and /proc?  I get a lot of tar errors on files in /sys.
[21:31] <noren> how to boot from that partition<< cant access that partition from the grub
[21:31] <DaSkreech> !fhs | BentFranklin
[21:31] <DaSkreech> noren: Ah Hmm ok
[21:31] <DaSkreech> what does grub say now?
[21:32] <noren> if i try there it says bad file or something
[21:32] <DaSkreech> pastebin /boot/grub/menu.lst
[21:32] <DaSkreech> oh
[21:32] <DaSkreech> hmm
[21:33] <BentFranklin> Okay, it says /sys is virtual as well, just like /proc.  Thanks.
[21:35] <noren> http://paste.ubuntu.com/127956/ ,, grub
[21:37] <DaSkreech> noren: when you choose the one for /dev/sda5 it throws an error?
[21:37] <noren> yes it say bad file something
[21:38] <DaSkreech> noren: For all of them?
[21:38] <DaSkreech> you have multiple entries there
[21:38] <noren> one for normal and one for recovery mode,,,, allso earlier kernels are also there
[21:39] <DaSkreech> is there an error number
[21:39] <DaSkreech> ?
[21:40] <noren> lemme try again
[21:48] <noren> hi m back
[21:48] <DaSkreech> noren: Nothing?
[21:48] <noren> DaSckreech: it say error no 2 : bad file or directory
[21:49] <DaSkreech> noren: /media/sda5 is mounted?
[21:50] <DaSkreech> is there a /media/sda5/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.27-7-generic under
[21:50] <DaSkreech> ignore under
[21:50] <DaSkreech> is there a /media/sda5/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.27-7-generic ?
[21:52] <noren> yes its mounted
[21:52] <DaSkreech> does that file exist?
[21:53] <DaSkreech> genii: Coffee?
[21:53] <noren> yes it does there are many files there
[21:54] <baldaris1> hey can any one help me with postfix, sasl authentication
[21:54] <baldaris1> ?
[21:54] <baldaris1> i thinkn i am messing up with some settings..
[21:55] <noren> http://paste.ubuntu.com/127970/ ,, here are all the files
[21:56] <DaSkreech> noren: Hmm
[21:57] <baldaris1> any one a am a newbi..
[21:59] <DarkriftX> how the hell does someone who has not taken a class on xorg.conf go about fixing his screen size/res?
[21:59] <DarkriftX> ive been dealing with this for days with no resolve
[21:59] <DarkriftX> i want to fix my damned resolution without using a text editor or a crappy nvidia-settings app that screws everything else up
[22:00] <noren> DaSkreech whats the time at ur place now
[22:00] <DaSkreech> baldaris1: if you would like help with postfix you can ask in #postfix They would be best able to help
[22:00] <DaSkreech> noren: Not as late as yours I'll bet
[22:01] <DaSkreech> !fixresolution
[22:01] <DaSkreech> !fixres
[22:01] <DaSkreech> DarkriftX: ^^^
[22:02] <DaSkreech> noren: 17:00
[22:03] <noren> man its really late here my mind has almost stopped working 0330 here
[22:04] <noren> so when is the approx release date fo the stable version of kubuntu 9.04
[22:04] <gregory> salutare din romania
[22:04] <DaSkreech> hi
[22:05] <DaSkreech> noren: last thursday in April
[22:05] <DaSkreech> I think
[22:05] <DarkriftX> so im to take this the only tool to help you fix your xorg.conf is a text editor?
[22:05] <DaSkreech> noren: Want to drop this till the morning>
[22:05] <DaSkreech> ?
[22:05] <jussi01> !ro | Guest22125
[22:06] <noren> still more than 6 weeks......well do u think we can fix my prob here
[22:07] <DaSkreech> noren: Yes I think that it's just cause you installed an older grub
[22:08] <noren> DaSkreech: oh how can i rectify and install the latst grub then
[22:09] <DaSkreech> what does apt-cache policy libc6 say ?
[22:10] <noren> http://paste.ubuntu.com/127976/
[22:10] <DarkriftX> ok, how about a different angle. can anyone tell me why an xorg.conf would be perfect one day and not work worth a crap the next? i made a backup of a working version and when i restore it now, it doesnt restore anything to the way it was
[22:12] <DaSkreech> noren: install http://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu/pool/main/g/grub/grub_0.97-29ubuntu45_i386.deb
[22:14] <noren> how can i install this mine is 64bit machine
[22:17] <martijn81> noren: http://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu/pool/main/g/grub/
[22:18] <noren> lemme check again
[22:21] <martijn81> noren: and, did it work for you?
[22:21] <noren> well nothing happened after installing the latest grub
[22:21] <noren>  martijn81 : worked what
[22:22] <martijn81> noren: booting
[22:22] <noren> nope
[22:22] <DaSkreech> error 2 again ?
[22:22] <noren> yes
[22:24] <DaSkreech> That normalyy only comes up when there is something like a RAID controller
[22:24] <DaSkreech> or obviously if the files are gone
[22:27] <DaSkreech> noren: Takea break
[22:27] <DaSkreech> We tackle this again in the morning
[22:28] <DaSkreech> noren: Sorry about the dbus suggestion :( That was bad on mypart
[22:28] <ulrik_> hello all, how do i get info about kernel verion, kde version and kubuntu verion in the command line?
[22:29] <noren> DaSkreech: i am gonna take a long break now..it does not matter. i have already learned a lot trying to fix the system
[22:29] <DaSkreech> noren: Yeah trust me
[22:29] <DaSkreech> after a little bit errors like this are 3 minutes to fix at the start
[22:29] <DaSkreech> noren: You will be in here helping other people who have desktop :)
[22:29] <noren> rem i was the one having to reinstall kubuntu quite a few time to get to the kde 4.2 ... may be it needs more of waiting from my part
[22:30] <DaSkreech> noren: I'll try and find out the cause of the plasma desktop error
[22:30] <DaSkreech> noren: Yeah I remember I'm not sure why you are having these issues
[22:30] <DaSkreech> noren: If it's any consolation I'm going through the same thing trying to install windows on a computer now
[22:31] <DaSkreech> been 4 days and I can't get it installed
[22:31] <noren> wat having prob installing windows : ?? :(
[22:32] <PKodon> noren: He may be talking about the time it takes, and the number of reboots :)
[22:34] <DaSkreech> noren: Yeah it won't stick to the hard drive LOL
[22:34] <DarkriftX> is there an X xorg.conf configuration tool besides nvidia-settings?
[22:34] <DaSkreech> everytime I get to install it it comes back up as if there nothing on the hard drive
[22:35] <DaSkreech> DarkriftX: Xorg is working on one but not really there is display in the System Settings
[22:35] <DarkriftX> nvidia-settings keeps screwing with stuff and making things worse, but thats the only program that makes (most) things the way i want them.
[22:35] <DarkriftX> and i dont know what all these settings are to edit them by hand
[22:36] <DarkriftX> the built in display manager app doesnt even see my second screen
[22:36] <DarkriftX> why would an xorg.conf work one time but not another?
[22:36] <DaSkreech> something changed it
[22:36] <DaSkreech> ?
[22:36] <DarkriftX> i have a backup that was working perfectly. i changed settings then tried to restore the backup but it didnt do anything
[22:36] <DarkriftX> nope, the backup was never modified
[22:37] <DaSkreech> different driver?
[22:37] <DarkriftX> same driver
[22:37] <DarkriftX> all ive done is restart x a few times
[22:38] <noren> ok good day then me leaving bye
[22:38] <DarkriftX> i set the settings, had them how i wanted them so i made a backup "xorg.workingdual" and then tried soemthing else. when that didnt work, i "sudo rm xorg.conf" "sudo cp xorg.workingdual xorg.conf" and restarted x. all my settings were gone, but the xorg.conf is now how it was (and the backup still has not been modified)
[22:38] <DaSkreech> noren: night
[22:39] <noren> its gonna be morning pretty soon HA HA
[22:39] <noren> bye
[22:39] <DaSkreech> bye
[22:39] <DarkriftX> im going to restart x again and see if i lose all the changes I just made
[22:40] <DarkriftX> nope, restarting x lost all my settings
[22:41] <DarkriftX> i open nvidia-settings with kdesu, make changes, apply, save changes andmake sure its saving to xorg.conf. when i restart x they are all lost
[22:43] <dsmith_> for 8.04 what is the most stable kernel being used right now?
[22:46] <dsmith_> I have 2.6.24-24, but boot into 24.21 only, Its like it freezes at .21
[22:49] <DarkriftX> is there no source for help with xorg configuration? ive tried 5 channels now and google for 3 days. I am starting to get really frustrated with this crap.
[22:54] <martijn81> DarkriftX: have you tried this-> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[22:55] <DarkriftX> yeah
[22:55] <DarkriftX> it killed all my settings and nothing worked
[22:55] <DarkriftX> i dont get it. nothing seems to be working
[22:56] <martijn81> DarkriftX: sorry, i not so l33t myself in linux
[22:58] <m477> i got error signal 11 (SIGSEGV) http://paste.ubuntu.com/127992/
[23:03] <ayyash> hey all
[23:04] <ayyash> i was wondering how where can i get to rooms for my region
[23:04] <ayyash> is there somewhere i can find the servers list "if that's the way at all"
[23:11] <DarkriftX> Can anyone tell me why video related changed I am making *WILL NOT* stick?
[23:25] <White_Pelican> this is going to sound like a strange question, but does kde 4 recognize when an audio CD is inserted into a drive?
[23:26] <attilacyilmazlar> Hi All
[23:26] <attilacyilmazlar> is there a system like raid for ubuntu or we have to setup raid for 2 or 3 disks??
[23:43] <goofey> attilacyilmazlar: a system like raid?  you mean... raid?
[23:44] <attilacyilmazlar> yes raid seems complicated
[23:44] <attilacyilmazlar> is there another system like raid can be setup easily?
[23:46] <goofey> the only thing that I know of that's like raid but isn;t raid, and this only counts for raid 0, is LVM
[23:46] <goofey> attilacyilmazlar: what *exactly* do you want to do?
[23:49] <attilacyilmazlar> i want to install jaunty to a raid of 2 160gb hdd's
[23:50] <attilacyilmazlar> I read this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID
[23:50] <attilacyilmazlar> and it seems complicated
[23:50] <goofey> attilacyilmazlar: which raid?
[23:51] <goofey> attilacyilmazlar: there's 0, 1, 5, 10
[23:51] <attilacyilmazlar> raid 1
[23:52] <goofey> attilacyilmazlar: the only way I know to do mirroring (raid 1) is via software raid (using the OS) or hardware raid (using a raid card) - ubuntu doesn't have a magic mirroring system
[23:53] <attilacyilmazlar> goofey: so we have to follow the instructions on how to doc
[23:53] <attilacyilmazlar> goofey: Is it possible to setup raid5 ??
[23:55] <goofey> attilacyilmazlar: sure, raid 5 is supported in linux, but raid 5 requires 3 disks
[23:55] <attilacyilmazlar> goofey: yes i know 3 disks
[23:55] <goofey> attilacyilmazlar: and yes, those instructions look fine
[23:56] <attilacyilmazlar> i already have 2 disks
[23:56] <attilacyilmazlar> goofey: on one of them I have Interpid on other Jaunty
[23:57] <attilacyilmazlar> I will buy one more and erase jaunty setup 2 of them with jaunty again then will jump to raid5
[23:57] <goofey> attilacyilmazlar: wait, you can't raid 2 disks that have OS's on them already and keep the data - creating the raid will wipe the disks
[23:57] <matrixhomie> hello
[23:58] <goofey> oj, ok, you know that - just make backups.  :)
[23:58] <attilacyilmazlar> thanks
[23:58] <attilacyilmazlar> for testing will try raid 1
[23:58] <attilacyilmazlar> if no problem then raid5
[23:58] <attilacyilmazlar> my master data is in Interpid
[23:58] <DarkriftX> can anyone help me figure out why my display settings will not persist a reboot/restart of x?
[23:59] <itsatrick> Hello.  Having a little trouble installing KOffice in KUbuntu.  When I use synaptic to install the app, it failes to install "kde-lib-kde4" because it tries to override one of the oxygen icons.  How do I get past this?  I tried deleting the icon, but it didn't work.