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copprowhich package has syscall manpages?01:09
dtchencoppro: manpages-dev01:10
dtchen(see also glibc-doc)01:11
copproty01:22
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savvasasac: can you take a look at bug 338607 ? It fails to update firefox and firefox-gnome-support due to this bug. I tried to purge all firefox-related packages and clean-install it, but it still shows that error.03:42
ubottuLaunchpad bug 338607 in xulrunner-1.9 "dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/xulrunner-1.9_1.9.0.7+nobinonly-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb (--unpack)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/33860703:42
ScottKsavvas: Are you on amd64?03:47
savvasyes ScottK03:47
ScottKThe amd64 buildds have been consistently behind the last few days.  I'm virtually certain you have nothing there other than garden variety archive skew that will cure itself.03:48
savvaswell, I just used forbid-version and used the older package - firefox works fine with >= 1.9.0.1 (thankfully) :)03:50
savvasthanks for the tip though03:51
wgrantScottK: That's not archive skew.03:58
wgrantsavvas: Have you run out of disk space?03:58
* jdong daringly upgrades his second box to Jaunty, hoping for a 0-for-0 track record.03:59
jdongactually... fglrx support probably is a surefire miss right now. Maybe I'll hold off :)03:59
savvaswgrant: well, I don't know how it was then, but not at the moment:03:59
savvasFilesystem           1K-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on03:59
savvas/dev/sda1             15480800   6511512   8182908  45% /03:59
savvaslet me can try again03:59
savvas-can :P04:00
savvaswgrant: http://paste.ubuntu.com/127561/04:09
savvasit still breaks unfortunately04:09
savvas/dev/sda1 is ext4 if it matters04:10
iahello. i've trying to package set of python scripts, debuild(for dsc) and pbuilder(for deb) don't show errors, but when I try to install package, i get this - http://paste.ubuntu.com/127560 ; but after this package appears in system, but when i try to run app, it shows import error(app includes some modules for work and looks like system can't register it for using); so, i will be very appreciate for any clues about how to solve this...04:13
ScottKsavvas: What error does it give if you use apt-get instead of aptitude?04:15
ScottKia: Would you pastebin your debian/control?04:16
wgrantsavvas: Remove the problem .deb from /var/cache/apt/archives, and try again.04:18
savvasUnpacking xulrunner-1.9 (from .../xulrunner-1.9_1.9.0.7+nobinonly-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb) ...04:20
savvasdpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)04:20
savvasdpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/xulrunner-1.9_1.9.0.7+nobinonly-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb (--unpack): short read in buffer_copy (backend dpkg-deb during `./usr/lib/xulrunner-1.9.0.7/libxul.so')04:20
savvasand testing wgrant's suggestion - thank you both for your time :)04:21
iaScottK: something like this - http://paste.ubuntu.com/127563/04:21
ScottKia: What Python versions will it work with?04:23
savvaswgrant: thanks!! it re-downloaded the package and now it installed fine!04:23
wgrantsavvas: That's what I thought - great!04:24
savvasit's weird though.. isn't there a hash check for the packages?04:24
wgrantYes.04:25
wgrantBut only at download-time.04:25
wgrantSo if it wasn't properly written to disk, or was truncated later, it wouldn't have noticed.04:25
ScottKsavvas: Don't forget to invalid the bug.04:26
savvasScottK: on my way :)04:26
savvaswgrant: ok :)04:27
iaScottK: well, afaik this code doesn't use some python version-depended features. I've write and tested this code in intrepid with python 2.5.2 and it works fine.04:27
ScottKOK04:27
ScottKia: Does http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/127565/ work any better?04:29
savvasScottK: do you know how to test python-zsi ? I made a test merge package https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/237674 - still need to adjust the changelog a bit, but I think it's ok: http://ppa.launchpad.net/medigeek/ppa/ubuntu/pool/main/z/zsi/python-zsi_2.1~a1-2ubuntu1~ppajaunty2_all.deb04:42
ubottuUbuntu bug 237674 in zsi "Please merge python-zsi (2.1~a1-2) (universe) from Debian unstable (main)." [Wishlist,Confirmed]04:42
savvasthe only weird thing is that in CHANGES it says that zsi doesn't use PyXML, but the debian maintainer kept the python-xml dependency04:47
savvasbe back later, I've updated the bug with a comment :)04:56
iaScottK: thanks, that's a little bit helped me, but i've clashed with another problem - after installing python(i've checked this in python shell also) don't see included in package python files as modules. For example, i have /usr/share/pyshared/mylib/plugins/file.py in system after installing package, but when i runs "from mylib import file" i get message " No module named mylib". Could you tell me, please, names of some docs, where discussed in detail how05:51
iato make python files available as modules?05:51
Laibschwhat is the equivalent of #ubuntu-motu for main?08:48
Laibsch#ubuntu-devel?08:48
Laibsch#ubuntu-release?08:48
TheMusoLaibsch: there isn't one really08:48
LaibschOK08:48
Laibschbug 33908808:48
ubottuLaunchpad bug 339088 in python-defaults "python package should provide python-pysqlite2" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/33908808:48
Laibschmakes sense?08:48
Zarelfabrice_sp_: You there?09:01
dtchenyeah, it's time for sleep. my branches are getting wacky names like /fork-harder.09:26
fabrice_sp_Zarel, yes09:32
elmargoldpkg-shlibdeps: failure: no dependency information found for /usr/lib/libmicrohttpd.so.5 (used by debian/gnunet-server/usr/lib/GNUnet/libgnunetmodule_hostlist.so).09:32
fabrice_sp_Zarel, but not for a long time09:32
elmargolAny ideas why I get this error? And how I should solve it?09:32
Zarelfabrice_sp_: Hi! I notice you have Warzone in your PPA now.09:32
ZarelCould you give instructions on how to use it?09:32
fabrice_sp_Zarel, yes. For intrepid only. I'm having problem duplicating it for Hardy09:33
fabrice_sp_(nothing linked to the package)09:33
fabrice_sp_Zarel, https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA#Adding%20a%20PPA%20to%20your%20Ubuntu%20repositories09:33
ZarelHmm, this seems like a rather complex procedure.09:34
fabrice_sp_so the short one: add deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/fabricesp/ppa/ubuntu intrepid main to your repositor list09:35
fabrice_sp_:-)09:35
fabrice_sp_I published instructions in DVDStyler wiki09:36
fabrice_sp_I'm looking for it09:36
fabrice_sp_http://dvdstyler.wiki.sourceforge.net/InstallationDebian+09:36
c_kornI don't know if this is the right place to ask: I have built a library and created the dependencies with dh_makeshlibs. another package build-depends on that library but when that package calls dpkg-shlibdeps it fails with: failure: no dependency information found for /usr/lib/libdaisy.so.0 (used by debian/daisyconsole/usr/bin/daisyconsole).09:40
c_kornthe file libdaisy.so.0 is a link: http://pastebin.com/d2bd7c22e09:40
maxbc_korn: Does /var/lib/dpkg/info/<name-of-library-package>.shlibs exist?09:58
maxbif so, paste its content09:58
c_kornlibdaisy 0.2 libao2 (>= 0.8.6), libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-21), libmad0 (>= 0.15.1b), libxml2 (>= 2.6.16)10:00
maxbI believe the second entry is supposed to be 0 not 0.210:02
hyperairpochu: ping10:03
c_kornhm, the so is libdaisy.so.0.2 and libdaisy.so.0 and libdaisy.so link to it10:04
maxbc_korn: also that dependency list looks very bogus to me10:04
maxbPlease paste your dh_makeshlibs invocation10:04
maxbPlease also paste the result of objdump -p /usr/lib/libdaisy.so.0 | fgrep SONAME10:05
c_korndebian/rules: http://pastebin.com/d16e6450610:05
c_korn  SONAME               libdaisy.so.010:05
maxbwhoa!? A plain "dh_makeshlibs" *really* generated "libdaisy 0.2 libao2 (>= 0.8.6), libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-21), libmad0 (>= 0.15.1b), libxml2 (>= 2.6.16)" !?10:06
maxbThat seems a little hard to believe10:06
hyperairmaxb: what's wrong?10:07
maxbIs libdaisy on revu or elsewhere downloadable?10:07
c_kornhttp://developer.skolelinux.no/info/studentgrupper/2006-hig-daisyplayer/www-files/p-download/10:07
maxbhyperair: well, first, dh_makeshlibs should have detected "0" from the soname, not "0.2", for the second field, no?10:07
hyperairmaxb: good point10:08
maxbhyperair: and second, the dependency list mentions a whole bunch of libs which aren't libdaisy, and doesn't mention libdaisy10:08
hyperairhmm good point10:08
maxbc_korn: All your links to .dsc files are labelled "dcs" ! :-)10:09
* maxb dgets the source and tries a build10:09
c_kornthis is not my page10:09
c_kornI also am not the author of the app10:09
* maxb is suspicious of the quality of the packaging, given the build failed10:10
c_korndget -ux http://abs.getdeb.net/post_build/intrepid/libdaisy_0.2.4-1~getdeb1_source.changes10:11
c_kornthis is what I have done10:11
pochuhi hyperair10:11
maxbc_korn: OK, so the problem is that the libdaisy source contains a manually written shlibs file which makes no sense whatsoever10:12
hyperairpochu: regarding your liferea patch, it seems to be upstream, so how come it hasn't entered ubuntu yet? =\10:12
pochuhyperair: it's upstream in trunk only, not in the 1.4 branch10:12
c_kornmaxb: yes I delete the file in my package. please have a look at that.10:13
pochuhyperair: and we have 1.4.23 in Ubuntu while upstream is at 1.4.26 already10:13
hyperairpochu: i see. but can't the patch be backported?10:13
pochuhyperair: sure, that's why it's in the bug report :)10:14
pochuhyperair: or do you mean upstream for the 1.4 branch?10:14
maxbc_korn: The problem is that you do not delete the file. If you do, dh_makeshlibs generates one saying: libdaisy 0 libdaisy110:15
hyperairpochu: no, i meant put into the liferea packaging in ubuntu10:15
pochuhyperair: ah, sure it can. I just haven't got to do it yet :)10:16
c_kornmaxb: the file is not in the debian directory of my package, is it?10:16
maxbyes it is.10:16
pochuhyperair: we should do it and prepare 1.4.26 too10:16
hyperairpochu: i see.10:16
hyperairpochu: by the way, what about the whole notification daemon restart issue i pointed out in the bug report?10:17
maxbc_korn: I believe you're being tripped up by the problem that I don't think it's possble to remove a file in .diff.gz :-/10:17
maxbThis is one of the reasons why upstreams should not ship debian/ dirs in their tarballs. You may need to repack the upstream tarball without the debian/10:18
c_kornmaxb: ouch, now I see that I have forgotten to remove the debian directory in the tarball :-(10:18
c_kornthis is stupid :P10:18
hyperairc_korn: tell upstream to not try to play the role of the debian maintainer10:18
maxbdpkg-source: warning: ignoring deletion of file debian/shlibs10:18
maxbc_korn: ^10:18
c_kornapologize for bothering10:19
maxbc_korn: Also, tell upstream not to include compiled .o files in their source tarball!10:19
maxbI think your clean rule may also be a little broken, judging by other errors10:20
pochuhyperair: I've got a patch for that, but due to a bug in libnotify, it will spit out a lot of critical warnings if there's no daemon at all10:21
pochuhyperair: http://trac.galago-project.org/ticket/18410:21
hyperairpochu: it shouldn't spit out errors, there's a .service file10:21
pochuhyperair: so unless that's fixed I won't merge the patch upstream I'm afraid10:21
pochuhyperair: yeah, look at the bug ;)10:21
c_kornmaxb: thanks for pointing this out.10:22
maxbc_korn: And if the tarball is already repacked (as "< c_korn> maxb: ouch, now I see that I have forgotten to remove the debian directory in the tarball :-(" suggests), don't forget to name it appropriately10:22
maxbie. some suffix to the version that indicates that10:22
hyperairpochu: damn strange10:23
hyperairpochu: shouldn't dbus autostart the service?10:23
pochuhyperair: the problem is that you may not have a daemon installed10:26
pochuhyperair: some people don't like notifications ;)10:26
pochuand for that use case, notify_init() should return FALSE indicating there's no daemon at all10:27
hyperairpochu: right. but surely when you tried to send notifications, there was a similar error?10:27
hyperaireven before checking capabilities10:27
pochunope10:27
hyperairokay, so how come there wasn't an error for this?10:27
pochuthe error is just a g_warning("error, foo") in check_capabilities()10:27
pochuwhat do you mean?10:27
hyperairsurely if libnotify couldn't send a notification, it'd throw a warning of some sort?10:28
pochuit doesn't10:28
hyperairmeh10:28
hyperairsuch nonstandard behaviour10:28
hyperairso what's wrong with a warning anyway?10:30
pochuhyperair: one is fine, thousands is not :)10:30
hyperairaah right10:31
pochuright now it spits out one10:31
hyperairduring initialization eh10:31
pochubecause we only check for capabilities() on startup10:31
pochuyeah10:31
hyperairso when does notify_init() return false?10:31
pochuwhen there's no DBus connection at all10:32
hyperairas in when dbus isn't running?10:32
pochuI think so10:32
pochuhttp://svn.galago-project.org/trunk/libnotify/libnotify/notify.c10:32
LaneyAnyone know what's responsible for setting the volume levels? What I see on Volume Indicator -> Open Volume Control10:32
pochuhyperair: bus = dbus_g_bus_get(DBUS_BUS_SESSION, &error);10:32
Laneymaster keeps being reset to mute on reboots :(10:33
pochuif (!bus) return FALSE10:33
hyperairpochu: i see if (error != NULL)10:35
pochuindeed10:37
pochuwhich means, if there's no DBus running, return FALSE10:37
pochubut we don't care about a notification daemon10:37
hyperairblah10:37
hyperairpochu: do you think that bug will be fixed in libnotify before jaunty?10:43
pochuhyperair: I don't think so, libnotify upstream isn't very active these days10:48
pochuhyperair: but it could be patched in Ubuntu for sure10:48
hyperairpochu: if we patch that in ubuntu, then we can use your patch which floods with warnings right?10:49
hyperairand it wouldn't have an issue10:49
pochuhyperair: yep10:51
hyperairi see.10:51
hyperairbut it might cause regressions right?10:51
pochuthe libnotify change?10:52
hyperairmmhm10:52
pochuit would be an API break10:52
hyperairwait, even if you make the change like that...10:52
pochuunless you consider it a bugfix... but it could have regressions in that case indeed10:52
hyperairthere's the whole issue of a notification daemon appearing after you've attempted to init it10:52
pochuyeah10:53
hyperairor disappearing after you've successfully init'd it10:53
* pochu grumbles something about libnotify10:53
hyperairisn't there a way to check if the notification daemon is running?10:54
hyperairyeah looking at the whole issue, libnotify certainly is irritating10:54
pochuhyperair: do you know of any app that does everything fine? :)10:54
hyperairwell...10:55
hyperairi'm not sure, i haven't tested any app that far10:55
hyperairhow about pidgin?10:55
hyperairbanshee.... i can't test with that, notify-sharp doesn't even depend on libnotify10:56
hyperairi'll try pidgin10:56
hyperairhmm pidgin's actions are missing completely10:59
hyperairbanshee's actions are also missing when the notification daemon is replaced11:00
hyperairpochu: ^11:00
hyperairbut banshee's patch hasn't gone upstream11:01
pochuthat's what happen with Liferea right now, right?11:01
pochuit stops working if you replace the daemon11:02
hyperairjust the actions11:02
hyperairi'm not sure about liferea11:02
hyperairi'm on intrepid, and the patch isnt even in jaunty11:02
hyperairhuh now banshee's lost its notifications completely11:02
hyperairah whoops i renamed the .service file wrongly11:03
hyperairokay, basically when replacing notify-osd with notification-daemon, most apps don't regain the actions hint11:03
hyperairpidgin and banshee included11:03
hyperairin that case it shouldn't be much of an issue11:04
hyperairit's standard now, sort of11:04
hyperairlol11:04
pochuheh11:05
hyperairpochu: did you hear about the ext4 data loss issue by the way?11:10
pochujust read the mail, yes11:12
pochubut I'm on ext3 fortunately ;-)11:12
sebnerpochu: now my bleeding edge hunger is b0rken xD11:15
hyperairpochu: so am i, but i was seriously considering ext4 =(11:17
pochuthat's sad indeed11:18
* hyperair nods11:18
hyperairso will every affected application get patched?11:18
pochure libnotify?11:18
hyperairno, re ext411:21
pochuwhy should applications be patched?11:23
sebnerhyperair: it's a design problem. you can't patch 20k applications11:26
hyperairsebner: figured as much11:26
hyperairpochu: because it's a problem in the applications?11:26
hyperairsebner: so it'll be patched in-kernel?11:27
sebnerhyperair: as far as I understand it will be worked around in the kernel, yes11:27
asacsavvas: wow. that looks scary11:27
asaci mean the upgrade error. did this resolve by itself?11:28
hyperairsebner: i see. but will this enter jaunty?11:28
sebnerhyperair: Tso speaks about 2.6.30rc1, dunno, maybe one backports the patches11:29
hyperair.30 huh. that's far11:29
hyperairwell, considering how many people are shifting towards ext4, i think this is a pretty high-impact bug11:30
eMerzhif someone want to review a package, ...i m looking for an advocate ( http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=sqliteman )13:12
directhexi'm not a MOTU, so i can't advocate13:14
pochudirecthex: you gotta fix that now!13:15
directhexpochu, you're the second person in as many days to say that13:15
directhexit'd certainly be faster than my DD application13:15
pochu;)13:15
pochuwhere are you in NM?13:16
directhexwaiting for an AM13:18
directhexi'm in the web of trust though, so that step shoould go quickly13:18
directhexsig          5178E2A5 2009-03-01  Dominic Hargreaves <dom@earth.li>13:19
directhexsig          80C83E8E 2009-03-03  Ian Lynagh (wibble) <igloo@earth.li>13:19
pochuI have a DD signature, yet my AM told me that's not enough :(13:19
pochuI'll convince him it is, I'm sure :-)13:19
directhexi have two!13:19
savvasasac: hey, just got in, yes it was kind of scary :) so it's apt or ext4 's fault about this?13:20
directhexi wish i knew who the random gmail account who signed my key is13:20
directhexalso, i have a new pc and it is awesome13:21
asacsavvas: not sure. i hope its ext413:21
asacsavvas: mvo is assigned now, so he will look13:22
savvasasac: ok, thanks for your help!13:22
RainCTIs it possible to install Ubuntu MID's menu on a normal system (that one with the big icons)?13:41
directhexRainCT, yes13:41
directhexRainCT, you mean the netbook menu or MID menu? they're not the same13:41
RainCTdirecthex: Err, the netbook one.13:41
directhexnetbook-launcher package13:42
directhexplus some odds & sods13:42
RainCToohh, nice13:43
directhexsee https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UNR section on 8.10 installation for better instructions13:43
RainCTdirecthex: thanks13:45
DktrKranzsavvas, bug 335741, mind integrating your changes into andrew's ones?13:52
ubottuLaunchpad bug 335741 in libtorrent-rasterbar "[jaunty]python(<2.6)-based apps cannot meet dependencies" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/33574113:52
savvasDktrKranz: I'll check it tonight :)13:54
DktrKranzsavvas, cool.13:55
savvasDktrKranz: actually, I gave it a quick look, I think Andrew has covered everything :)14:01
savvas--install-layout=deb14:01
savvasthat was the important part I guess, and the new debian package version supports 2.6 by default in the makefile/configure :)14:02
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surfazhi! Someone has a problem with xorg-options-editor package in Jaunty?14:53
surfazWhen I try install this app, apt-get say this14:53
surfazDepends: python (<2.6) but it will install 2.6.1-0ubuntu314:54
lidaobingsurfaz, I can't find this package in jaunty14:56
bobbolidaobing: sourcepackage name is "xorg-options-editor-gtk", I'm looking at it now14:57
surfazlidaobing, http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/xorg-options-editor-gtk14:58
surfazStrange is:14:58
surfazpython  (<< 2.6)14:58
surfaz    An interactive high-level object-oriented language (default version)14:58
surfazdep: python (>= 2.5)14:58
surfazbut default python version of Jaunty is 2.614:58
lidaobingsurfaz, a rebuild should works14:58
lidaobingsurfaz, it's a bug.14:58
bobbosurfaz: Have you filed a bug?14:59
surfazbobbo, should I do?14:59
bobbosurfaz: yeah, then ping me and I'll work on it :)14:59
geserlooks like the package needs the DEB_PYTHON_INSTALL_ARGS_ALL line removed from debian/rules for the transition15:03
LaneyCan I interest anyone in a broken-boost-python-incompatible-with-2.6-anyway miro?15:06
DktrKranzsavvas, thanks15:07
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surfazlidaobing,16:11
surfazhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-options-editor-gtk/+bug/33922016:11
ubottuUbuntu bug 339220 in xorg-options-editor-gtk "xorg-options-editor-gtk isn't installable" [Undecided,Confirmed]16:11
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lidaobingsurfaz, ping bobbo, he said he will deal with it.16:15
lidaobingsurfaz, I can't upload16:15
surfazbob16:16
surfazok16:16
surfazI should make a feature freeze exception?16:16
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geserwhy do you believe you need a FFe for it?16:18
surfazgeser, because now we are in FF?16:24
surfazbobbo, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-options-editor-gtk/+bug/33922016:25
ubottuUbuntu bug 339220 in xorg-options-editor-gtk "xorg-options-editor-gtk isn't installable" [Undecided,Confirmed]16:25
bobbosurfaz: thanks16:25
surfazbobbo, debdiff attached16:25
surfaznow I uploading to my ppa16:25
bobbosurfaz: cool, I'll have a look, have you tested its installability on a Jaunty system?16:26
surfazwith my debdiff, yes16:26
bobbook, i'll try and build it16:27
surfazbobbo, https://launchpad.net/~surfaz28/+archive/ppa16:27
bobbotseliot: ping16:28
tseliotbobbo: yes?16:28
tseliotit just needs a rebuild16:28
surfaztseliot, not only16:29
tseliotand the export in rules16:29
surfazremove DEB_PYTHON_INSTALL_ARGS_ALL also needed16:29
tseliotok16:29
surfaztseliot, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-options-editor-gtk/+bug/33922016:29
ubottuUbuntu bug 339220 in xorg-options-editor-gtk "xorg-options-editor-gtk isn't installable" [Undecided,Confirmed]16:29
bobbosurfaz: I didn't remove that var (added --install-layout=deb) and it still works fine, have you tried just rebuilding it?16:29
tseliotplease attach the debdiff to the bug report and I'll upload it16:29
gesersurfaz: where do you see in your debdiff a new feature which needs an exception?16:29
* tseliot has to leave16:30
surfaztseliot, http://launchpadlibrarian.net/23581563/xorg-options-editor-gtk_0.2ubuntu1.debdiff16:30
surfazgeser, ehh, you are right...16:30
surfazu_u16:30
tseliotsurfaz: ok, thanks16:30
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surfazbobbo, why PPA only built i386 pacakge?16:31
geserbobbo: cdbs has that (--install-layout=deb) as default set in DEB_PYTHON_INSTALL_ARGS_ALL if it's not overwriten in the package (and --no-compile is also in the default)16:31
gesersurfaz: because of Architecture: all16:31
bobbogeser: ah I didn't know that! So it obviously isn't needed :)16:31
surfazgeser, ehh... I don't undestarnd... all = any arch  ,  any = depend of arch, no?16:32
geserbobbo: DEB_PYTHON_INSTALL_ARGS_ALL = --no-compile -O0 --install-layout=deb (set in /usr/share/cdbs/1/class/python-distutils.mk)16:33
gesersurfaz: all = one package works on all architectures while any = needs to be build on every architecture16:33
geserand the i386 buildd builds also the arch:all packages16:34
surfazahh, ok16:34
surfazthanks!16:34
bobbosurfaz: I have looked at your debdiff and left some comments in the bug report16:44
bobbosurfaz: Would my suggestion be ok with you? (the last one?)16:45
surfazI sent Spanish transaltion to Alberto Milone16:48
bobbosurfaz: has he commented on it?16:50
surfaznot yet16:51
bobbosurfaz: because I am still reluctant to upload it without his input on it16:51
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surfazbobbo, new debdiff without po file16:58
surfazhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-options-editor-gtk/+bug/33922016:58
ubottuUbuntu bug 339220 in xorg-options-editor-gtk "xorg-options-editor-gtk isn't installable" [Undecided,Confirmed]16:58
Turlany posibility of https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/250973 getting a FFe?16:59
ubottuUbuntu bug 250973 in getdeb.net "Create Package: proxychains version 3.1" [Wishlist,Fix released]16:59
surfazbobbo, ?17:17
lfaraoneHi, there seems to be a package (aiccu) which freezes on postinstall/configure stages. How can I debug the problem>17:22
DktrKranzScottK, is boost1.37 a good choice or should we use boost1.35 instead?17:23
geserlfaraone: edit the postinst script to show which commands get executed to see where it hangs17:24
phil_pshi, I am trying to use debuild17:25
lfaraonegeser: is there a flag I can add to the script that does that, or should I just have it echo every command?17:25
phil_psI get this error: E: glife_0.2.1-1ubuntu1_source.changes: bad-ubuntu-distribution-in-changes-file jaunty17:25
phil_psdo I need to be using chroot?17:26
geserlfaraone: edit /var/lib/dpkg/info/<pkg>.postinst and insert "set -x" near the top17:26
phil_psI am developing on intrepid17:26
geserlfaraone: and then call "dpkg --configure <pkg>"17:26
geserphil_ps: looks like output from lintian, you can ignore it17:27
phil_psoh, you're right, it made the file17:28
lfaraonegeser: it stops at ++ exec /usr/share/debconf/frontend /var/lib/dpkg/info/aiccu.postinst configure ''17:28
Turlphil_ps: intrepid doesn't know about jaunty, that's why it complains17:28
lfaraoneTurl: does jaunty know about karmic?17:28
lfaraoneTurl: (shouldn't we release it with karmic support so that we don't have to backport it in later?)17:29
phil_psTurl: yeah, okay. the people on launchpad asked if I could get rid of the lintin warnings (optional) so I want to try17:29
lfaraonephil_ps: what are the other warnings?17:29
lfaraonephil_ps: that's one you can ignore, it won't show up on newer lintiansss17:29
Turlphil_ps: if you debuild on jaunty, that won't show, so you can just omit it17:30
phil_pslfaraone: W: glife source: debian-rules-ignores-make-clean-error line 5317:33
phil_pslfaraone: W: glife source: ancient-standards-version 3.6.1 (current is 3.8.0)17:33
phil_pslfaraone: that's it17:33
lfaraonephil_ps: that's easy, bump the version to 3.8.017:33
Turlphil_ps: the first one is because it uses -$(MAKE)17:33
lfaraonephil_ps: *standards version17:33
lfaraonephil_ps: simply edit the control file17:34
* lfaraone will brb.17:34
phil_pslfaraone: okay, got the standards updated17:35
Turlrun lintian -i *.changes to get the full scoop17:35
Turlit says how to fix some, including the ignore-make...17:35
geser*please* check the policy changes when updating the standards version instead of simply bumping it17:36
Turlgeser: won't lintian tell you after the bump?17:36
phil_psgeser: where can I check that17:36
geser/usr/share/doc/debian-policy/upgrading-checklist.txt.gz17:38
phil_psTurl: okay, ran lintian -i *.changes but it says to edit the Makefile....I generate the Makefile using configure...don't know how to program in the shell very well yet17:39
Turlphil_ps: you have to edit debian/rules, not the makefile17:40
Turlphil_ps: pastebin the full lintian please, and your debian/rules17:40
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phil_psTurl: what pastebin do I paste it to?  (I am _really_ new)17:42
phil_psTurl: I searched pastebin in google and didn't find the site I saw on IRC before17:43
gesere.g paste.ubuntu.com17:43
jpdsphil_ps: paste.ubuntu.com17:43
Turlphil_ps: pastebin.com is ok for me17:43
phil_pshttp://paste.ubuntu.com/127845/17:45
jpds1~17:45
jpdsErm, whoops. Sorry.17:46
Turlphil_ps:17:46
Turlreplace line 99 in the pastebin with [ ! -f Makefile ] || $(MAKE) distclean17:47
phil_psTurl: okay, got it.  thank you so much!17:47
Turlnp phil_ps :)17:48
phil_psso will lintian tell me if I don't adhere to the policy changes?17:50
phil_psI re-ran after bumping the version and it didn't complain17:50
azeemphil_ps: only if a test has been written for that change17:51
azeemin practise, lintian cannot cover everything17:51
phil_psyeah, one of the things is licenses17:52
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phil_psit would take alot of work to check that17:52
phil_ps(if someone had a typo or something...)17:53
Toobazis there an Ubuntu official policy about packages which only have a menu item in the Debian menu (and hence end up in "Others" section)? I've asked a maintainer to add a .desktop under "Education;Science;Math;", but (also because of the bug that Science is no main cathegory) he prefers "Applications/Science/Data Analysis", and I can understand him. Is there any possibility to avoid a (quite permanent) patch at the MO18:20
Toobaz(reference: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=518596 )18:20
ubottuDebian bug 518596 in r-cran-rcmdr "R Commander missing in applications menu" [Unknown,Open]18:20
hyperairToobaz: well you could put the .desktop file in debian/, and then use .install to get it into place18:21
hyperairToobaz: i don't think there's a policy regarding this though18:21
Toobazhyperair: maybe I misunderstood you, but the problem is not the path of the .desktop file, but its content18:21
hyperairToobaz: the desktop file doesn't exist right?18:21
Toobazwell, we're creating it18:21
Toobazno, it doesn't18:22
hyperairright. you create it, and put it inside the debian/ dir18:22
hyperairyou know what debian/ is right?18:22
Toobazobviously18:22
hyperairyes good18:22
azeemToobaz: your initial line got cut off at "patch at the MO..."18:22
Toobazthe problem is: what do I put near "Categories="?18:22
Toobazoh18:22
Toobazsorry18:22
hyperairthen you have a debian/package.install file which shoves this debian/whatever.desktop into /usr/share/applications18:22
Toobazpatch at the MOTU level?18:22
azeemso what do you want patch where?18:22
Toobazhyperair: I know how to install the .desktop file. The problem is its content18:22
azeemthe .desktop is shipped by upstream already?18:23
hyperairToobaz: you mean you don't know how to create it? =\18:23
Toobaz-Categories="Applications/Science/Data Analysis"18:23
Toobaz+Categories=Education;Science;Math;18:23
Toobaz(in the .desktop file)18:23
hyperairthen patch it as such18:23
azeemToobaz: what are diffing?18:23
azeem+you18:23
Toobazazeem: ?!?18:23
Toobazgot it?18:23
azeemthat's a diff no?18:23
hyperairToobaz: take a look at the codelite package. i've patched the .desktop file in that oen18:23
Laneyhyperair: He knows how to patch it!!!18:24
hyperairLaney: then i'm misunderstanding =.=18:24
Laneyyes you are :(18:24
hyperairLaney: i can't figure out exactly what he wants18:24
Toobazhyperair: I will certainly file a patch if it is the case. But I'd like to avoid it18:24
ToobazLaney: do you know "Debian menu"?18:24
Toobazwe don't have it18:24
LaneyToobaz: Yes18:24
Laneydoes the package provide a desktop file too?18:25
hyperairToobaz: bug upstream, and if upstream doesn't comply, patch it18:25
azeemToobaz: do you mean "Debian maintainer"?18:25
ToobazLaney: sorry, I meant "hyperair:"18:25
Toobazazeem: yes18:25
azeemToobaz: well, that wasn't obvious18:25
azeemyou wrote "Maintainer"18:25
hyperairToobaz: you're talking about stuff that goes in /usr/share/menu?18:25
Toobazazeem: sorry18:25
Toobazhyperair: wow, maybe you're clarifying me a lot18:25
azeemso it wasn't clear where the .desktop file you want to patch came from18:25
hyperairToobaz: stuff that goes in /usr/share/menu is the debian menu stuff. stuff that goes in /usr/share/applications are .desktop files, which appear in the GNOME/KDE menus18:26
Toobazis /usr/share/menu specific for the Debian menu?!18:26
hyperairToobaz: that's right.18:26
Toobazhyperair: wow, great18:26
Toobazthanks18:26
hyperairthey have a different format too18:26
Laneyso what you want is for the maintainer to add a desktop file with your categories18:27
ToobazLaney: exactly, thanks. I noticed the different formats, but not the different folders. Perfect.18:27
Laneynice18:27
hyperairLaney: where is the debian menu still used anyway?18:28
hyperairLaney: is it even used in debian anymore?18:28
Laneyerm18:28
Laneyrandom old desktop environments I guess18:28
hyperair.l.18:29
hyperairlol*18:29
hyperair..how did i type that?18:29
* hyperair gapes18:29
hanskaLaney: also xfce in a separate menu18:30
hanskaLaney: there has been a thread on -devel, recently, about dropping / changing it18:30
Laneyyeah, saw that18:30
Laneygods18:30
LaneyI've been trying to get to the shop for hours now18:30
* Laney is really gone now18:30
hanskaLaney: still dot? :P18:30
Laneystill grinding away18:31
Laneybrb18:31
LaneyElbrus: are you fixed now?20:02
RainCTIs there some command to get "~/.config" (for a shell script)?21:02
RainCTThe spec talks about an $XDG_CONFIG_HOME environment variable but it doesn't seem to be defined here21:03
RainCTah, nevermind, if it's empty you're supposed to use $HOME/.config21:04
ElbrusLaney: ?21:10
Laneyyou were disconnecting over and over21:10
ElbrusProbably a problem with the internet connection. Not doing it manually.21:24
Laneyyeah, I guessed that much21:24
RhondaDid I something wrong with  LP #336396 and LP #336406 or is fixing security bugs not really an issue for packages in universe?22:17
ubottuLaunchpad bug 336396 in wesnoth "proposed diff for hardy-security" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/33639622:18
ubottuLaunchpad bug 336406 in wesnoth "proposed diff for gutsy-security" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/33640622:18
LaneyRhonda: MOTUs in general won't see ubuntu-security subscribed bugs22:18
Laneytry #ubuntu-hardened22:18
Laneythere is MOTU-swat but I don't know how it works really22:19
RhondaLaney: Well, I would guess the security team to hand over the issues to the people in motu taking care of such tasks...22:19
LaneyRhonda: I think that ubuntu-security people still do the uploads22:20
Laneyyour best bet is to ask in there22:20
Rhonda... or LP assigning security reported bugs not to the Ubuntu Security Team but some other team when they are with packages in universe.22:20
RhondaFor now it looks quite strange and that I have to dig around where to look is even more strange. :/22:22
RhondaBeing sent from channel to channel isn't quite helpful. :(22:22
Laney"Due to lack of manpower, flaws in stable releases and Ubuntu-modified packages are not fixed by ubuntu-security, but the team will provide assistance in releasing updates which are prepared by other developers. "22:23
RhondaThe update is prepared, the patch is in there.22:23
Laneyright, I'm just saying that we are not the people to do the upload for you :(22:24
LaneyI appreaciate that this is unhelpful though22:24
RhondaWell, if it's the security team doing the upload, they are subscribed to the bugs, so a ping from it should be sufficient, right?22:24
LaneyI would imagine so22:25
LaneyI pinged them to the backlog22:30
gregorhttp://www.gnashdev.org/?q=node/67 when is this version included into ubuntu?22:51

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