[00:16] I am absolutely loving the latest xkcd [00:17] ugh, statistics [00:18] did wolter miss the membership meeting? any clue as to when the latest was? [01:10] FloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) [01:10] FloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) [01:10] FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) [01:11] Dude...we have exploit victims again... :( [01:11] Aware. [01:17] !ops | banlist is full [01:17] banlist is full: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, Madpilot, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow, nickrud, jpds, bazhang, jussi01, Flannel or ikonia! [01:17] LjL called the ops in #ubuntu-ops (banlist is full) [01:18] LjL: still not removing +e's properly by the looks of it. [01:18] * Amaranth has no bans in #ubuntu [01:18] Pricey: yeah i know it misses some of them sometimes, thanks for reminding, that should free up some slots [01:19] Pricey: it gets most of them right, it only forgets about a small percentage, never quite understood why [01:19] not my fault! [01:19] yup [01:19] Mez: so? [01:20] will blame you anyway [01:26] * Mez sighs [01:26] I wish amarok would pick up my mp3 player [01:27] There's a good number of +d too. [01:29] there's also a huge number of plain bans-on-host to begin with [01:29] * Flannel will clear the his tonight when he gets a chance. [01:29] know how to change port in Chatzilla? [01:29] we don't have that in the instructions, and there's a victim on it [01:31] i installed it the other day trying to figure out how to change the server password and it was evil, don't remember seeing a place for port [01:32] whew [01:32] its server:port [01:32] the chanserv.py bug seems to be gone [01:32] so, whereever you would put the server, append a :port [01:32] removed the 4 bans I had btw [01:33] There are some realy really old -read-topic bans in there too. [01:34] or maybe was an xchat bug [01:34] Pricey: look, mind if i just remove all bans before february that are on hosts tagged as dynamic IPs by dnsbls? [01:34] argh, would help if I had libnjb installed [01:34] would show every ban when removing olde bans (making me think I had unbanned everyone) [01:34] Pricey: ompaul used to just remove loads of bans during the night. with him not doing that anymore, we're costantly getting a full banlist. [01:35] I try to never ban anymore, if at all possible [01:35] LjL: I don't think I have a problem with that. tbh... with over a month banned not too worried about static stuff appearing either. [01:39] Last time I cleared bans, I cleared my oldest... dozen or so. And before I could get through sorting through the rest, one of those dozen came back and started causing trouble again. [01:40] But, like I said, I'll do housekeeping tonight. [01:41] Flannel: it happens, i know, still banlist space is limited unfortunately. i could give you a script to determine if a host is dynamic [01:42] sounds good. [01:43] I'm still against automatic ban removals (although if you just do automatic ban removals of bans without comments, that'd be a good compromise). [01:43] I have a dynamic IP, but it changes... well, I don't think it's changed in at least four months. [01:44] Flannel: yes, the dynamic thing has its shortcoming too. i had a better system (i actually used logs as statistics to know which hosts *actually* changed often), but i don't have that ready [01:44] I know I comment on bans that have pre-reqs for removal (and all non-commented bans are free to be removed by anyone who thinsk they ought to be) [01:44] Flannel: right now all i have ready is this http://paste.ubuntu.com/127526/ which is merely intended to give you the "best ban" for a hostmask [01:44] Flannel: i'm using it now to find what the dynamic ones are [01:45] k, one ban to my name in #ubuntu now [01:46] wait, 2 [01:47] heh [01:47] 1 that I can see on this server for me [01:48] let's just clear the list. What's the worst that could happen? [01:49] haha [01:49] n4n31NcH41Ls would return [01:54] ok, i should have freed up a good few slots [01:54] well it will be nice to see Panarchy and sken again [01:55] bazhang: a brown highlight... i must have been out of colors when i put Panarchy on highlight. [01:57] Pricey: as for the +d's, i think you should review them briefly and mostly make them permbans [02:00] Pricey: the read-topics... uhm, i've removed a couple manually now, but if i have to believe the floodbots, the rest are ones who showed up within the past 8 days [02:00] i'll try and look at the times on them properly tomorrow [02:02] Pricey: the bans themselves are pretty old, but it's people who were in -read-topic recently [02:02] ah ok [02:03] Pricey: the floodbots work based on that - they remove your ban if you don't show up *at all* in two weeks, but if you do and ignore the instructions, the ban stays [02:03] those must be people who ignored the instruction (such as people who have #ubuntu on autojoin but couldn't otherwise care less) [02:07] hi wouldn't ddc exploit not be an issue if i wasn't on 6667? [02:10] Dracie: correct [02:10] Dracie: you can use port 8001 [02:10] LjL, hmm hold on i think i am on that port [02:10] Dracie: if you are, type "test me" in the -read-topic channel. [03:05] well, i was going to go shopping, but it seems like troll hour [03:05] heh go [03:05] I will mark all offenders in bt :) [03:06] starting with april [03:18] ok, the frenzy is over, cya. [04:17] sumdude was falkman [04:17] bad english from wisconsin? [04:17] That's falkman. [04:17] The guy talking about viruses earlier. [04:18] right, just too transparently a troll [04:18] yep [04:37] ziroday called the ops in #ubuntu (cody) [04:37] odd [04:38] removed [04:58] off to work cya later all [04:58] cyas [08:37] * Myrtti yawns [09:30] FYI, as you've seen, I'm doing a spring cleaning at -offtopic. I'm removing lots of bans, and might take off some that shouldn't have. Just blame it on my incapability of making good judgements and being a sloppy operator and put them back in, if you have any problems. [09:32] only a few that should stay imo [09:41] whoa chanserv banning someone [09:41] bazhang, in #u? [09:41] permaban... or something [09:42] syf in #ubuntu elky [09:42] nah, it'd be a real-name ban or whatever [09:42] a /mode -d [09:42] * syf (n=syf@218.247.195.135) has joined #ubuntu [09:42] then bam! [09:43] yep, because chanserv has to wait for their details to sync before it knows to nuke them [09:43] that wont count against the ban list will it [09:43] i think it might [09:44] okay [09:44] *sigh* [09:45] Myrtti, you have way more patience than i do. i can never actually clean out the ban list, my attention span is way too short [09:45] elky: erm, I sorta can see it is... [09:46] also el jay el would need to fix his [09:47] in reality I don't have patience. I'm just annoyed and doing this with the power of pure aggression [09:47] I bet I'll die of heart attack [09:47] nah [09:47] BattleStarJesus, oh hello there turing bot [09:47] BattleStarJesus, you wish to discuss a ban? [09:48] I am not a bot [09:48] I am banned from #edubuntu [09:48] That is not proper! [09:48] why it's not proper? [09:49] I did not even do anything to warrent being banned! [09:49] BattleStarJesus, considering how close you were to one in #ubuntu earlier, I seriously doubt that [09:49] You all think I am a bot but I am not. [09:49] BattleStarJesus, not for being a bot, but for ignoring warnings about being offtopic [09:50] Offtopic is lame [09:50] no excuse [09:50] no one is serious there [09:50] I can't get any useful information from anyone in off topic [09:50] you spent several days cross-posting the same repetative inane questions a few weeks back, and not giving any sensible responses to people talking to you. we had no choice but to call you a bot, since you acted just like one. [09:51] that does not mean you can turn #ubuntu into your linux questions time channel [09:51] I asked for advice on where to go [09:51] #ubuntu is support only [09:51] other than off topic [09:52] you can /msg alis list [09:52] what does that mean? [09:52] it'll give you a list of channels for the topic you put in [09:52] it means you can enter a parameter for example linux chat offtopic or whatever and get a listing [09:53] Are you going to unban me from #edubuntu? [09:53] I never even put message there. [09:53] who banned you [09:54] the only time I not serious is on offtopic [09:54] what questions were you intending to ask #edubuntu? [09:54] I dont know [09:54] bazhang, highvoltage did, back when he was in his bot phase. [09:54] at any rate, judging by your current responses and behaviour earlier, I would guess NO [09:54] I AM AND NEVER HAVE BEEN A BOT!!! [09:55] elky, okay [09:55] I AM NOT A BOT!! [09:55] BattleStarJesus, but you were very offtopic [09:55] BattleStarJesus, please lose the caps [09:55] STOP REFERING TO ME AS A BOT!!! [09:55] BattleStarJesus, you just acted like one. picasso was never actually the colour blue, but he had a blue phase. [09:56] BattleStarJesus, stop with the caps already [09:56] elky what does that mean [09:56] elky bazhang you are the bots! [09:56] !caps [09:56] PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too. [09:57] BattleStarJesus, is there anything else? [09:57] BattleStarJesus, how about we come to an agreement. you stop cross posting repetitive questions across multiple channels, and i'll refer to you a a person. [09:57] BattleStarJesus, there seems to be no way forward here with your current attitude [09:57] bazhang, Then forgetit [09:58] bazhang, you treat me like I'm not even human [09:58] BattleStarJesus, au contraire [09:58] BattleStarJesus, I was very polite in asking you (more than once) to take offtopic chat elsewhere [09:58] That's fine I can't stand the human race any way, I'm glad to be rejected by them. [09:59] BattleStarJesus, are you ignoring me? [09:59] elky, what are you telling me? [09:59] BattleStarJesus, how about we come to an agreement. you stop cross posting repetitive questions across multiple channels, and i'll refer to you a a person. [10:00] elky, I fail to understand your imposition? [10:00] BattleStarJesus, you know how you post the same question in several channels at a time? [10:01] elky, am I not permitted to be in multiple channels at once? [10:01] BattleStarJesus, sure, you can be in multiple channels, but if you ask all of them 'what is a linux channel', and you ask them all several times. then that is rude. [10:02] that seems like trolling [10:02] and that's the kind of thing that turing bots do. that's why i mistook you for a turing bot. [10:03] Do you want me to leave? [10:03] #ubuntu is testing [10:04] BattleStarJesus, you're talking to me now, not bazhang, ok? [10:04] elky, this does not have sense to it. [10:04] BattleStarJesus, what is your native language? [10:05] elky, I find this to be annoying and I rather not continue participating. [10:05] BattleStarJesus, i'm just trying to understand why you're not finding sense in it. [10:05] elky, I am trying to avoid the rudeness. [10:06] elky, but this seems to be an excess expendature of all our energies. [10:06] i am not being rude on purpose. the same way as you didn't mean to act in a way that made me think you were non-human. [10:07] elkyI am done with this. [10:07] it depends if you want to be let back into channels, i guess. [10:07] clearly not. [10:07] still unbanned in #ubuntu [10:07] likewise #edubuntu [10:07] i dont see any actual value from having him in either [10:07] weird [10:08] yeah. the way he words his sentances is just so.... bot-like :-/ [10:08] how could you *not* mistake him for one [10:08] yep [10:08] ok, I'm going to have a shower, go get some milk and then return to unbanning [10:09] I desperately need coffee and I have no milk [10:09] i should eat. i might order a pizza. [10:09] elky: his words to twisted to sane sentence: "I don't know what I would do there as I never would say anything but I must get there" [10:10] I wouldn't mind if someone would atleast try to do the same spring cleaning as I've been doing at ot to #u [10:10] Tm_T, that's why i'm trying to figure his native language [10:10] he's learned big english words, and uses them appropriately... it's just the small joining words he's failing on [10:13] holy crap, i just quoted my cc number by heart... [10:13] this is bad. [10:13] cc ? [10:13] (although, it's a visa debit, not a real cc) [10:13] credit card [10:13] Commander Clone was my first thought :-P [10:15] pizza hut online has my favourite order saved however, in a cookie i thnk. all i have to do is type in my name, address, accept my favourite order, type in card number and it's security code, and i has pizza on it's way. [10:15] and i just did all that without taking out my purse [10:16] food, that sounds good, wish I had some... [10:16] now i need to clean some space for the pizza box [10:16] Tm_T, well, it's 9.15, and i forgot to cook dinner... [10:29] there, now there's room for the pizza box [10:34] I just had a thought - about logs and unbanning. I'll test it later on [10:41] i still wait for the day we can set a ban length [10:41] we'll need a hella big server to manage that though [10:42] out of curiosity too, how much ram/disk does ubottu need? [10:44] mmm... fuds [10:50] jpds, what's the requirements to run an ubotu instance? [11:01] where'd everyone go? [11:07] o/ [11:14] Myrtti, still around? :-/ [11:17] seems to be trolling in #ubuntu (m0noker) [11:19] time to re-add to ban list I would guess [11:22] about to go afk; should do first? [11:25] back in a bit [11:26] bazhang, no, he chose to leave instead of getting banned. i'm satisfied for now [11:40] phew [11:40] omg. [11:40] Myrtti: ye? [11:40] hello [11:40] hi [11:40] elky: poing [11:41] Myrtti, how much resource does an ubottu instance use? [11:41] * elky is >< close to hunting down aprilhare and hurting him [11:41] I have no idea [11:42] he appears to be insinuating things about me [11:42] * Myrtti sods off to -offtopic to be cheery [11:42] elky: not much. want me to check? [11:43] Nafallo: since when have you been running... oh nevermind [11:43] Nafallo, please. i know the one in the supybot channel uses about 60mb ram, just wondering how much gets used when it's in a few dozen channels [11:46] Mem: 122 118 3 0 3 89 [11:47] dev/sda2 771M 516M 216M 71% / [11:47] PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND [11:47] 18640 jpds 20 0 19168 14m 3052 S 0.0 11.7 3:51.16 supybot [11:48] that was even more useful than the Mem line actually :-P [11:53] 19+14mb? that all? [11:53] er, 19mb, that all? [11:54] (i keep forgetting that virt includes res :P) [11:54] Nafallo, how many channels is it in? [11:56] elky: ubot2 [11:57] only 4 channels? [11:57] no idea :-) [11:57] that's what /wii says... unless it's +i [11:58] but yea. well. it doesn't use much :-) [11:58] if that is only in 4, we need to do some load balancing [11:58] I surely agree with that one. [11:59] I think jpds just assign new channels to them. [11:59] jpds could easily combine both his bots into one [12:00] ubot3 seems the most loaded [12:00] elky: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [12:01] actually, ubottu is in all the high-traffic chans [12:01] but still ubot3 could give some chans to jpds' bot/s [12:01] WHO THE HELL IS PEPPER? [12:01] purely for sync time [12:01] Myrtti, um... amaranth i think [12:02] FFS [12:02] * Myrtti smacks Amaranth_ [12:02] Myrtti, where? [12:03] in the bantracker [12:03] hehe, yes, that's amaranth [12:03] elky: ubot4 is in 16 chahnels, and all my bots are +i to stop the spammers. [12:04] Actually; ubot2 is in 16. [12:05] elky: ubot4 has 15. [12:05] jpds, ah ok cool. [12:05] i was worried you had 2 going on one server for a bit there [12:05] 2's in London, 4, US. [12:06] if Nafallo manages one of them, the bot cloak should represent that ideally [12:06] if kapsi had better python on their servers, I'd be running on [12:06] e [12:06] elky: naah. only host it :-) [12:06] gave jpds a vm basically :-) [12:06] Nafallo, ok cool [12:06] kvm ftw. [12:08] elky: If you have any channels you want me to put the bots in, that'd be fine,. [12:08] jpds, no, i was just worried you were cramping 2 onto a single host, was going to take one off you if you wanted [12:09] elky: Ah, OK. [12:09] should have kept the hostnames ;-) [12:12] you could set the hostnames to the realname? [12:12] * Myrtti is full of cheery suggestions [12:12] bug #1 [12:12] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1 (Timeout) [12:12] hrm, do none of them do the bug thing? [12:13] ubot4: bug #337711 [12:13] Launchpad bug 337711 in linux-backports-modules-2.6.28 "[Jaunty] ath5k reports missing symbols when -backports installed" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/337711 [12:13] Hmm, both muted here. [12:13] elky: For some reason, 2 doesn't like the bug reporting thing. [12:17] This is the error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/127690/ [12:17] gah. laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaag [12:17] ah, so not protection [12:18] From ubot2, stdin says he'd seen it before, but it fixed itself (like what ubot4 did eventually). [12:19] it's probably to do with the data the snarfer gets or whatever [12:30] I did toss some pretty bad troll bans away at -ot as well, but most of them seemed to be from dynamic hosts etc [12:30] now I'm considering tackling #ubuntu [12:31] Myrtti, you're on a roll! [12:31] also, why is it someone decided they had to invent candy when there's yummy things like pitted dates? [12:33] oh-my-gawd [12:33] I just love irssi [12:33] I found a nifty command [12:33] /lastlog - -file bans.log "#ubuntu: ban" [12:33] ♥ [12:34] ♥ irssi ♥ [12:34] what does that do? [12:34] if you've done /bans in the channel, does a lastlog for that and writes it into a file [12:35] ah, "#ubuntu: ban" is the syntax at the beginning of a ban record? [12:42] yeah [12:42] and then some magic... [12:53] sed 's/^$\[[0-9]*:[0-9]*\] ~~~[0-9]* - #ubuntu: ban $$.*[^\ ]$\ \[by $[^\ \,]*$.*/\3 \2/g' bans.log|sort [12:53] BWHAHA :-P [12:53] and then... [12:54] actually, ditch that one... [12:54] sed 's/^$\[[0-9]*:[0-9]*\] ~~~[0-9]* - #ubuntu: ban $$.*[^\ ]$\ \[by $[^\ \,]*$.*/\3 \/mode -b \2/g' bans.log|sort [12:55] can you see I've been working with sed and such too much lately? [12:55] *blush* [12:59] sed 's/^$\[[0-9]*:[0-9]*\] ~~~[0-9]* - #ubuntu: ban $$.*[^\ ]$\ \[by $[^\ \,\!]*$.*/\3 \/mode -b \2/g' bans.log|sort > unban-ubuntu && python pastebinit-0.10/pastebinit -i unban-ubuntu [12:59] whee. [12:59] http://pastebin.com/f7b67583c [12:59] :-D [12:59] I IZ SICK IN MAH HEAD [13:00] I guess I should write an alias. [13:00] :-D [13:01] might as well [13:01] with a bit of exec etc... [13:01] this'll be fun! [13:12] ok, hold your hats. [13:12] /bin/sh: sed 's/^([[0-9]*:[0-9]*] ~~~[0-9]* - #ubuntu: ban )(.*[^ ]) [by ([^ ,!]*).*//mode -b ' bans.log|sort > unban-ubuntu && python pastebinit-0.10/pastebinit -i unban-ubuntu: No such file or directory [13:12] bummer [13:15] no wonder newbies are afraid of sed [13:31] ok, hold your hats again [13:31] sed: can't read /home/users/myrtti/bans.log: No such file or directory [13:31] http://pastebin.com [13:31] bummer [13:32] worked once. [13:32] bahj [13:32] http://pastebin.com/f5ac0a706 [13:37] Is Tommy_nmw (currently on #ubuntu-server) banned from #ubuntu? [13:38] holy gawd [13:38] did that really work! [13:39] it did! [13:39] did what work? [13:40] * Myrtti tries [13:40] http://pastebin.com/f497f3c61 [13:41] BOOMCHICA! [13:41] * Myrtti rolls [13:41] ScottK: hold on, checking [13:42] @bansearch tommy_new [13:42] No matches found for tommy_new!*@* in any channel [13:43] @bansearch Tommy_nmw [13:43] Match: *!*@gateway/web/*!#ubuntu-proxy-users by Automated-Addition in #kubuntu on Jun 29 2008 06:42:46 (ID: 4947) [13:43] Match: *!*@gateway/web/*!#ubuntu-proxy-users by LjL in #ubuntu on Dec 11 2008 15:25:03 (ID: 7853) [13:43] Match: *!*@gateway/web/*!#ubuntu-proxy-users by Automated-Addition in #ubuntu on Apr 18 2008 18:46:25 (ID: 4846) [13:43] ScottK: ^ [13:44] Thanks. [13:45] graah [13:45] I need to set my $EDITOR to something sane [13:48] bah [13:49] I set my editor to emacs and still my crontab -e throws me into vi ;____; [13:54] now I guess I should update my pastebinit so I could get it to throw the pastes to paste.ubuntu.com [13:59] how many quassels are there? [14:02] http://paste.ubuntu.com/127724/ [14:02] ♥ [14:02] ah. [14:02] vi ♥ [14:17] Myrtti: what about pepper? [14:18] Amaranth_: it's a bit disturbing to see someone like "pepper" in the bantracker [14:18] as someone who has banned someone [14:19] i don't think i ever have [14:19] that's a nick for a bot [14:32] Amaranth_, you stole it's nick once, and needed to ban someone... or something like that [14:34] In ubottu, kennyyu said: kenny is kenny [14:35] In ubottu, kennyyu said: XULRunner is a runtime environment developed by the Mozilla Foundation to provide a common back-end for XUL applications. It replaced the Gecko Runtime Environment, a stalled project with a similar purpose. [16:04] erm. [16:04] [18:03] < jaipal99> als mayrrita [16:07] Myrtti: that means? [16:08] my broken english detector bleeps while translating that to A/S/L Myrtti [16:09] uh, that takes some imagination to parse [16:09] eww [16:09] i almost thought it was finnish... === thunderstruck is now known as gnomefreak [16:42] uh-oh [16:42] BattleStarJesus on #ubuntu [16:42] let's see what he's up to [16:45] wait he has no cloak this time [16:46] wonder if he is the same guy from wisconsin who said sory for my bed englis [16:46] falkman and one other nick [16:49] sumdude was the other nick [16:50] @login [16:50] The operation succeeded. [16:52] n=primary@24-179-150-227.dhcp.stpt.wi.charter.com battlestar [16:53] 24-183-35-226.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com sumdude/falkman guess not [16:58] Myrtti: are you actually going through the BT and checking each one's logs? [17:00] If I weren't, I'd run a sed on the damned file and get this over and done with in three minutes [17:01] Myrtti: you'll start screaming and banging on your keyboard if you keep doing this for much longer, you know that [17:02] LjL: I did this in the morning with #ubuntu-offtopic only energized with my pure anger [17:02] Myrtti doesn't do that anyway? [17:02] Seeker`: well yes [17:07] phantomcircuit, how may we help you [17:07] uh [17:07] i don't know how i got here [17:07] heh [17:07] you were forwarded [17:07]