[00:16] <Pricey> I am absolutely loving the latest xkcd
[00:17] <LjL> ugh, statistics
[00:18] <bazhang> did wolter miss the membership meeting? any clue as to when the latest was?
[01:11] <tonyyarusso> Dude...we have exploit victims again... :(
[01:11] <Pricey> Aware.
[01:17] <LjL> !ops | banlist is full
[01:18] <Pricey> LjL: still not removing +e's properly by the looks of it.
[01:18]  * Amaranth has no bans in #ubuntu
[01:18] <LjL> Pricey: yeah i know it misses some of them sometimes, thanks for reminding, that should free up some slots
[01:19] <LjL> Pricey: it gets most of them right, it only forgets about a small percentage, never quite understood why
[01:19] <Mez> not my fault!
[01:19] <Pricey> yup
[01:19] <Pricey> Mez: so?
[01:20] <Pricey> will blame you anyway
[01:26]  * Mez sighs
[01:26] <Mez> I wish amarok would pick up my mp3 player
[01:27] <Pricey> There's a good number of +d too.
[01:29] <LjL> there's also a huge number of plain bans-on-host to begin with
[01:29]  * Flannel will clear the his tonight when he gets a chance.
[01:29] <LjL> know how to change port in Chatzilla?
[01:29] <LjL> we don't have that in the instructions, and there's a victim on it
[01:31] <Pricey> i installed it the other day trying to figure out how to change the server password and it was evil, don't remember seeing a place for port
[01:32] <bazhang> whew
[01:32] <Flannel> its server:port
[01:32] <bazhang> the chanserv.py bug seems to be gone
[01:32] <Flannel> so, whereever you would put the server, append a :port
[01:32] <bazhang> removed the 4 bans I had btw
[01:33] <Pricey> There are some realy really old -read-topic bans in there too.
[01:34] <bazhang> or maybe was an xchat bug
[01:34] <LjL> Pricey: look, mind if i just remove all bans before february that are on hosts tagged as dynamic IPs by dnsbls?
[01:34] <Mez> argh, would help if I had libnjb installed
[01:34] <bazhang> would show every ban when removing olde bans (making me think I had unbanned everyone)
[01:34] <LjL> Pricey: ompaul used to just remove loads of bans during the night. with him not doing that anymore, we're costantly getting a full banlist.
[01:35] <bazhang> I try to never ban anymore, if at all possible
[01:35] <Pricey> LjL: I don't think I have a problem with that. tbh... with over a month banned not too worried about static stuff appearing either.
[01:39] <Flannel> Last time I cleared bans, I cleared my oldest... dozen or so.  And before I could get through sorting through the rest, one of those dozen came back and started causing trouble again.
[01:40] <Flannel> But, like I said, I'll do housekeeping tonight.
[01:41] <LjL> Flannel: it happens, i know, still banlist space is limited unfortunately. i could give you a script to determine if a host is dynamic
[01:42] <Flannel> sounds good.
[01:43] <Flannel> I'm still against automatic ban removals (although if you just do automatic ban removals of bans without comments, that'd be a good compromise).
[01:43] <Flannel> I have a dynamic IP, but it changes... well, I don't think it's changed in at least four months.
[01:44] <LjL> Flannel: yes, the dynamic thing has its shortcoming too. i had a better system (i actually used logs as statistics to know which hosts *actually* changed often), but i don't have that ready
[01:44] <Flannel> I know I comment on bans that have pre-reqs for removal (and all non-commented bans are free to be removed by anyone who thinsk they ought to be)
[01:44] <LjL> Flannel: right now all i have ready is this http://paste.ubuntu.com/127526/ which is merely intended to give you the "best ban" for a hostmask
[01:44] <LjL> Flannel: i'm using it now to find what the dynamic ones are
[01:45] <jrib> k, one ban to my name in #ubuntu now
[01:46] <jrib> wait, 2
[01:47] <bazhang> heh
[01:47] <bazhang> 1 that I can see on this server for me
[01:48] <jrib> let's just clear the list.  What's the worst that could happen?
[01:49] <bazhang> haha
[01:49] <bazhang> n4n31NcH41Ls would return
[01:54] <LjL> ok, i should have freed up a good few slots
[01:54] <bazhang> well it will be nice to see Panarchy and sken again
[01:55] <LjL> bazhang: a brown highlight... i must have been out of colors when i put Panarchy on highlight.
[01:57] <LjL> Pricey: as for the +d's, i think you should review them briefly and mostly make them permbans
[02:00] <LjL> Pricey: the read-topics... uhm, i've removed a couple manually now, but if i have to believe the floodbots, the rest are ones who showed up within the past 8 days
[02:00] <Pricey> i'll try and look at the times on them properly tomorrow
[02:02] <LjL> Pricey: the bans themselves are pretty old, but it's people who were in -read-topic recently
[02:02] <Pricey> ah ok
[02:03] <LjL> Pricey: the floodbots work based on that - they remove your ban if you don't show up *at all* in two weeks, but if you do and ignore the instructions, the ban stays
[02:03] <LjL> those must be people who ignored the instruction (such as people who have #ubuntu on autojoin but couldn't otherwise care less)
[02:07] <Dracie> hi wouldn't ddc exploit not be an issue if i wasn't on 6667?
[02:10] <LjL> Dracie: correct
[02:10] <LjL> Dracie: you can use port 8001
[02:10] <Dracie> LjL, hmm hold on i think i am on that port
[02:10] <LjL> Dracie: if you are, type "test me" in the -read-topic channel.
[03:05] <elky> well, i was going to go shopping, but it seems like troll hour
[03:05] <bazhang> heh go
[03:05] <bazhang> I will mark all offenders in bt :)
[03:06] <bazhang> starting with april<tab>
[03:18] <elky> ok, the frenzy is over, cya.
[04:17] <tritium> sumdude was falkman
[04:17] <bazhang> bad english from wisconsin?
[04:17] <tritium> That's falkman.
[04:17] <tritium> The guy talking about viruses earlier.
[04:18] <bazhang> right, just too transparently a troll
[04:18] <tritium> yep
[04:37] <Pici> odd
[04:38] <bazhang> removed
[04:58] <bazhang> off to work cya later all
[04:58] <Pici> cyas
[08:37]  * Myrtti yawns
[09:30] <Myrtti> FYI, as you've seen, I'm doing a spring cleaning at -offtopic. I'm removing lots of bans, and might take off some that shouldn't have. Just blame it on my incapability of making good judgements and being a sloppy operator and put them back in, if you have any problems.
[09:32] <bazhang> only a few that should stay imo
[09:41] <bazhang> whoa chanserv banning someone
[09:41] <elky> bazhang, in #u?
[09:41] <Myrtti> permaban... or something
[09:42] <bazhang> syf in #ubuntu elky 
[09:42] <elky> nah, it'd be a real-name ban or whatever
[09:42] <elky> a /mode -d 
[09:42] <bazhang> * syf (n=syf@218.247.195.135) has joined #ubuntu
[09:42] <bazhang> then bam!
[09:43] <elky> yep, because chanserv has to wait for their details to sync before it knows to nuke them
[09:43] <bazhang> that wont count against the ban list will it
[09:43] <elky> i think it might
[09:44] <bazhang> okay
[09:44] <Myrtti> *sigh*
[09:45] <elky> Myrtti, you have way more patience than i do. i can never actually clean out the ban list, my attention span is way too short
[09:45] <Myrtti> elky: erm, I sorta can see it is...
[09:46] <Myrtti> also el jay el would need to fix his
[09:47] <Myrtti> in reality I don't have patience. I'm just annoyed and doing this with the power of pure aggression
[09:47] <Myrtti> I bet I'll die of heart attack
[09:47] <bazhang> nah
[09:47] <elky> BattleStarJesus, oh hello there turing bot
[09:47] <bazhang> BattleStarJesus, you wish to discuss a ban?
[09:48] <BattleStarJesus> I am not a bot
[09:48] <BattleStarJesus> I am banned from #edubuntu
[09:48] <BattleStarJesus> That is not proper!
[09:48] <Tm_T> why it's not proper?
[09:49] <BattleStarJesus> I did not even do anything to warrent being banned!
[09:49] <bazhang> BattleStarJesus, considering how close you were to one in #ubuntu earlier, I seriously doubt that
[09:49] <BattleStarJesus> You all think I am a bot but I am not.
[09:49] <bazhang> BattleStarJesus, not for being a bot, but for ignoring warnings about being offtopic
[09:50] <BattleStarJesus> Offtopic is lame
[09:50] <bazhang> no excuse
[09:50] <BattleStarJesus> no one is serious there
[09:50] <BattleStarJesus> I can't get any useful information from anyone in off topic
[09:50] <elky> you spent several days cross-posting the same repetative inane questions a few weeks back, and not giving any sensible responses to people talking to you. we had no choice but to call you a bot, since you acted just like one.
[09:51] <bazhang> that does not mean you can turn #ubuntu into your linux questions time channel
[09:51] <BattleStarJesus> I asked for advice on where to go
[09:51] <bazhang> #ubuntu is support only
[09:51] <BattleStarJesus> other than off topic
[09:52] <bazhang> you can /msg alis list <parameter>
[09:52] <BattleStarJesus> what does that mean?
[09:52] <elky> it'll give you a list of channels for the topic you put in <parameter>
[09:52] <bazhang> it means you can enter a parameter for example linux chat offtopic or whatever and get a listing
[09:53] <BattleStarJesus> Are you going to unban me from #edubuntu?
[09:53] <BattleStarJesus> I never even put message there.
[09:53] <bazhang> who banned you
[09:54] <BattleStarJesus> the only time I not serious is on offtopic
[09:54] <elky> what questions were you intending to ask #edubuntu?
[09:54] <BattleStarJesus> I dont know
[09:54] <elky> bazhang, highvoltage did, back when he was in his bot phase.
[09:54] <bazhang> at any rate, judging by your current responses and behaviour earlier, I would guess NO
[09:54] <BattleStarJesus> I AM AND NEVER HAVE BEEN A BOT!!!
[09:55] <bazhang> elky, okay
[09:55] <BattleStarJesus> I AM NOT A BOT!!
[09:55] <bazhang> BattleStarJesus, but you were very offtopic
[09:55] <bazhang> BattleStarJesus, please lose the caps
[09:55] <BattleStarJesus> STOP REFERING TO ME AS A BOT!!!
[09:55] <elky> BattleStarJesus, you just acted like one. picasso was never actually the colour blue, but he had a blue phase.
[09:56] <bazhang> BattleStarJesus, stop with the caps already
[09:56] <BattleStarJesus> elky what does that mean
[09:56] <BattleStarJesus> elky bazhang you are the bots!
[09:56] <Myrtti> !caps
[09:57] <bazhang> BattleStarJesus, is there anything else?
[09:57] <elky> BattleStarJesus, how about we come to an agreement. you stop cross posting repetitive questions across multiple channels, and i'll refer to you a a person. 
[09:57] <bazhang> BattleStarJesus, there seems to be no way forward here with your current attitude
[09:57] <BattleStarJesus> bazhang, Then forgetit 
[09:58] <BattleStarJesus> bazhang, you treat me like I'm not even human
[09:58] <bazhang> BattleStarJesus, au contraire
[09:58] <bazhang> BattleStarJesus, I was very polite in asking you (more than once) to take offtopic chat elsewhere
[09:58] <BattleStarJesus> That's fine I can't stand the human race any way, I'm glad to be rejected by them.
[09:59] <elky> BattleStarJesus, are you ignoring me?
[09:59] <BattleStarJesus> elky, what are you telling me?
 BattleStarJesus, how about we come to an agreement. you stop cross posting repetitive questions across multiple channels, and i'll refer to you a a person. 
[10:00] <BattleStarJesus> elky, I fail to understand your imposition?
[10:00] <elky> BattleStarJesus, you know how you post the same question in several channels at a time?
[10:01] <BattleStarJesus> elky, am I not permitted to be in multiple channels at once?
[10:01] <elky> BattleStarJesus, sure, you can be in multiple channels, but if you ask all of them 'what is a linux channel', and you ask them all several times. then that is rude.
[10:02] <bazhang> that seems like trolling
[10:02] <elky> and that's the kind of thing that turing bots do. that's why i mistook you for a turing bot.
[10:03] <BattleStarJesus> Do you want me to leave?
[10:03] <Myrtti> #ubuntu is testing
[10:04] <elky> BattleStarJesus, you're talking to me now, not bazhang, ok?
[10:04] <BattleStarJesus> elky, this does not have sense to it.
[10:04] <elky> BattleStarJesus, what is your native language?
[10:05] <BattleStarJesus> elky, I find this to be annoying and I rather not continue participating.
[10:05] <elky> BattleStarJesus, i'm just trying to understand why you're not finding sense in it.
[10:05] <BattleStarJesus> elky, I am trying to avoid the rudeness. 
[10:06] <BattleStarJesus> elky, but this seems to be an excess expendature of all our energies.
[10:06] <elky> i am not being rude on purpose. the same way as you didn't mean to act in a way that made me think you were non-human.
[10:07] <BattleStarJesus> elkyI am done with this.
[10:07] <elky> it depends if you want to be let back into channels, i guess.
[10:07] <elky> clearly not.
[10:07] <bazhang> still unbanned in #ubuntu
[10:07] <elky> likewise #edubuntu
[10:07] <elky> i dont see any actual value from having him in either
[10:07] <bazhang> weird
[10:08] <elky> yeah. the way he words his sentances is just so.... bot-like :-/
[10:08] <elky> how could you *not* mistake him for one
[10:08] <bazhang> yep
[10:08] <Myrtti> ok, I'm going to have a shower, go get some milk and then return to unbanning
[10:09] <Myrtti> I desperately need coffee and I have no milk
[10:09] <elky> i should eat. i might order a pizza.
[10:09] <Tm_T> elky: his words to twisted to sane sentence: "I don't know what I would do there as I never would say anything but I must get there"
[10:10] <Myrtti> I wouldn't mind if someone would atleast try to do the same spring cleaning as I've been doing at ot to #u
[10:10] <elky> Tm_T, that's why i'm trying to figure his native language
[10:10] <elky> he's learned big english words, and uses them appropriately... it's just the small joining words he's failing on
[10:13] <elky> holy crap, i just quoted my cc number by heart...
[10:13] <elky> this is bad.
[10:13] <Tm_T> cc ?
[10:13] <elky> (although, it's a visa debit, not a real cc)
[10:13] <elky> credit card
[10:13] <Tm_T> Commander Clone was my first thought :-P
[10:15] <elky> pizza hut online has my favourite order saved however, in a cookie i thnk. all i have to do is type in my name, address, accept my favourite order, type in card number and it's security code, and i has pizza on it's way.
[10:15] <elky> and i just did all that without taking out my purse
[10:16] <Tm_T> food, that sounds good, wish I had some...
[10:16] <elky> now i need to clean some space for the pizza box
[10:16] <elky> Tm_T, well, it's 9.15, and i forgot to cook dinner...
[10:29] <elky> there, now there's room for the pizza box
[10:34] <Myrtti> I just had a thought - about logs and unbanning. I'll test it later on
[10:41] <elky> i still wait for the day we can set a ban length
[10:41] <elky> we'll need a hella big server to manage that though
[10:42] <elky> out of curiosity too, how much ram/disk does ubottu need?
[10:44] <elky> mmm... fuds
[10:50] <elky> jpds, what's the requirements to run an ubotu instance?
[11:01] <elky> where'd everyone go?
[11:07] <Nafallo> o/
[11:14] <elky> Myrtti, still around? :-/
[11:17] <bazhang> seems to be trolling in #ubuntu (m0noker)
[11:19] <bazhang> time to re-add to ban list I would guess
[11:22] <bazhang> about to go afk; should do first?
[11:25] <bazhang> back in a bit
[11:26] <elky> bazhang, no, he chose to leave instead of getting banned. i'm satisfied for now
[11:40] <Myrtti> phew
[11:40] <Myrtti> omg.
[11:40] <Nafallo> Myrtti: ye?
[11:40] <Myrtti> hello
[11:40] <Nafallo> hi
[11:40] <Myrtti> elky: poing
[11:41] <elky> Myrtti, how much resource does an ubottu instance use?
[11:41]  * elky is >< close to hunting down aprilhare and hurting him
[11:41] <Myrtti> I have no idea
[11:42] <elky> he appears to be insinuating things about me
[11:42]  * Myrtti sods off to -offtopic to be cheery
[11:42] <Nafallo> elky: not much. want me to check?
[11:43] <Myrtti> Nafallo: since when have you been running... oh nevermind
[11:43] <elky> Nafallo, please. i know the one in the supybot channel uses about 60mb ram, just wondering how much gets used when it's in a few dozen channels
[11:46] <Nafallo> Mem:           122        118          3          0          3         89
[11:47] <Nafallo> dev/sda2             771M  516M  216M  71% /
[11:47] <Nafallo>   PID USER      PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S %CPU %MEM    TIME+  COMMAND                               
[11:47] <Nafallo> 18640 jpds      20   0 19168  14m 3052 S  0.0 11.7   3:51.16 supybot
[11:48] <Nafallo> that was even more useful than the Mem line actually :-P
[11:53] <elky> 19+14mb? that all?
[11:53] <elky> er, 19mb, that all?
[11:54] <elky> (i keep forgetting that virt includes res :P)
[11:54] <elky> Nafallo, how many channels is it in?
[11:56] <Nafallo> elky: ubot2
[11:57] <elky> only 4 channels?
[11:57] <Nafallo> no idea :-)
[11:57] <elky> that's what /wii says... unless it's +i
[11:58] <Nafallo> but yea. well. it doesn't use much :-)
[11:58] <elky> if that is only in 4, we need to do some load balancing
[11:58] <Nafallo> I surely agree with that one.
[11:59] <Nafallo> I think jpds just assign new channels to them.
[11:59] <elky> jpds could easily combine both his bots into one
[12:00] <elky> ubot3 seems the most loaded
[12:00] <ubot3> elky: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[12:01] <elky> actually, ubottu is in all the high-traffic chans
[12:01] <elky> but still ubot3 could give some chans to jpds' bot/s
[12:01] <Myrtti> WHO THE HELL IS PEPPER?
[12:01] <elky> purely for sync time
[12:01] <elky> Myrtti, um... amaranth i  think
[12:02] <Myrtti> FFS
[12:02]  * Myrtti smacks Amaranth_ 
[12:02] <elky> Myrtti, where?
[12:03] <Myrtti> in the bantracker
[12:03] <elky> hehe, yes, that's amaranth
[12:03] <jpds> elky: ubot4 is in 16 chahnels, and all my bots are +i to stop the spammers.
[12:04] <jpds> Actually; ubot2 is in 16.
[12:05] <jpds> elky: ubot4 has 15.
[12:05] <elky> jpds, ah ok cool.
[12:05] <elky> i was worried you had 2 going on one server for a bit there
[12:05] <jpds> 2's in London, 4, US.
[12:06] <elky> if Nafallo manages one of them, the bot cloak should represent that ideally
[12:06] <Myrtti> if kapsi had better python on their servers, I'd be running on
[12:06] <Myrtti> e
[12:06] <Nafallo> elky: naah. only host it :-)
[12:06] <Nafallo> gave jpds a vm basically :-)
[12:06] <elky> Nafallo, ok cool
[12:06] <jpds> kvm ftw.
[12:08] <jpds> elky: If you have any channels you want me to put the bots in, that'd be fine,.
[12:08] <elky> jpds, no, i was just worried you were cramping 2 onto a single host, was going to take one off you if you wanted
[12:09] <jpds> elky: Ah, OK.
[12:09] <Nafallo> should have kept the hostnames ;-)
[12:12] <Myrtti> you could set the hostnames to the realname?
[12:12]  * Myrtti is full of cheery suggestions
[12:12] <elky> bug #1
[12:12] <elky> hrm, do none of them do the bug thing?
[12:13] <jpds> ubot4: bug #337711
[12:13] <jpds> Hmm, both muted here.
[12:13] <jpds> elky: For some reason, 2 doesn't like the bug reporting thing.
[12:17] <jpds> This is the error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/127690/
[12:17] <elky> gah. laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaag
[12:17] <elky> ah, so not protection
[12:18] <jpds> From ubot2, stdin says he'd seen it before, but it fixed itself (like what ubot4 did eventually).
[12:19] <elky> it's probably to do with the data the snarfer gets or whatever
[12:30] <Myrtti> I did toss some pretty bad troll bans away at -ot as well, but most of them seemed to be from dynamic hosts etc
[12:30] <Myrtti> now I'm considering tackling #ubuntu
[12:31] <elky> Myrtti, you're on a roll!
[12:31] <elky> also, why is it someone decided they had to invent candy when there's yummy things like pitted dates?
[12:33] <Myrtti> oh-my-gawd
[12:33] <Myrtti> I just love irssi
[12:33] <Myrtti> I found a nifty command
[12:33] <Myrtti> /lastlog - -file bans.log "#ubuntu: ban"
[12:33] <Myrtti> ♥ 
[12:34] <Nafallo> ♥ irssi ♥
[12:34] <elky> what does that do?
[12:34] <Myrtti> if you've done /bans in the channel, does a lastlog for that and writes it into a file
[12:35] <elky> ah, "#ubuntu: ban" is the syntax at the beginning of a ban record?
[12:42] <Myrtti> yeah
[12:42] <Myrtti> and then some magic...
[12:53] <Myrtti> sed 's/^\(\[[0-9]*:[0-9]*\] ~~~[0-9]* - #ubuntu: ban \)\(.*[^\ ]\)\ \[by \([^\ \,]*\).*/\3 \2/g' bans.log|sort
[12:53] <Myrtti> BWHAHA :-P
[12:53] <Myrtti> and then...
[12:54] <Myrtti> actually, ditch that one...
[12:54] <Myrtti> sed 's/^\(\[[0-9]*:[0-9]*\] ~~~[0-9]* - #ubuntu: ban \)\(.*[^\ ]\)\ \[by \([^\ \,]*\).*/\3 \/mode -b \2/g' bans.log|sort
[12:55] <Myrtti> can you see I've been working with sed and such too much lately?
[12:55] <Myrtti> *blush*
[12:59] <Myrtti> sed 's/^\(\[[0-9]*:[0-9]*\] ~~~[0-9]* - #ubuntu: ban \)\(.*[^\ ]\)\ \[by \([^\ \,\!]*\).*/\3 \/mode -b \2/g' bans.log|sort > unban-ubuntu && python pastebinit-0.10/pastebinit -i unban-ubuntu
[12:59] <Myrtti> whee.
[12:59] <Myrtti> http://pastebin.com/f7b67583c
[12:59] <Myrtti> :-D
[12:59] <Myrtti> I IZ SICK IN MAH HEAD
[13:00] <Myrtti> I guess I should write an alias.
[13:00] <Myrtti> :-D
[13:01] <elky> might as well
[13:01] <Myrtti> with a bit of exec etc...
[13:01] <Myrtti> this'll be fun!
[13:12] <Myrtti> ok, hold your hats.
[13:12] <Myrtti> /bin/sh: sed 's/^([[0-9]*:[0-9]*] ~~~[0-9]* - #ubuntu: ban )(.*[^ ]) [by ([^ ,!]*).*//mode -b ' bans.log|sort > unban-ubuntu && python pastebinit-0.10/pastebinit -i unban-ubuntu: No such file or directory
[13:12] <Myrtti> bummer
[13:15] <topyli> no wonder newbies are afraid of sed
[13:31] <Myrtti> ok, hold your hats again
[13:31] <Myrtti> sed: can't read /home/users/myrtti/bans.log: No such file or directory
[13:31] <Myrtti> http://pastebin.com
[13:31] <Myrtti> bummer
[13:32] <Myrtti> worked once.
[13:32] <Myrtti> bahj
[13:32] <Myrtti> http://pastebin.com/f5ac0a706
[13:37] <ScottK> Is Tommy_nmw (currently on #ubuntu-server) banned from #ubuntu?
[13:38] <Myrtti> holy gawd
[13:38] <Myrtti> did that really work!
[13:39] <Myrtti> it did!
[13:39] <Mez> did what work?
[13:40]  * Myrtti tries
[13:40] <Myrtti> http://pastebin.com/f497f3c61
[13:41] <Myrtti> BOOMCHICA!
[13:41]  * Myrtti rolls
[13:41] <Myrtti> ScottK: hold on, checking
[13:42] <Mez> @bansearch tommy_new
[13:43] <Myrtti> @bansearch Tommy_nmw
[13:43] <Myrtti> ScottK: ^
[13:44] <ScottK> Thanks.
[13:45] <Myrtti> graah
[13:45] <Myrtti> I need to set my $EDITOR to something sane
[13:48] <Myrtti> bah
[13:49] <Myrtti> I set my editor to emacs and still my crontab -e throws me into vi ;____;
[13:54] <Myrtti> now I guess I should update my pastebinit so I could get it to throw the pastes to paste.ubuntu.com
[13:59] <elky> how many quassels are there?
[14:02] <Myrtti> http://paste.ubuntu.com/127724/
[14:02] <Myrtti> ♥ 
[14:02] <Myrtti> ah.
[14:02] <jrib> vi ♥
[14:17] <Amaranth_> Myrtti: what about pepper?
[14:18] <Myrtti> Amaranth_: it's a bit disturbing to see someone like "pepper" in the bantracker
[14:18] <Myrtti> as someone who has banned someone
[14:19] <Amaranth_> i don't think i ever have
[14:19] <Amaranth_> that's a nick for a bot
[14:32] <elky> Amaranth_, you stole it's nick once, and needed to ban someone... or something like that
[16:04] <Myrtti> erm.
[16:04] <Myrtti> [18:03] < jaipal99> als mayrrita
[16:07] <LjL> Myrtti: that means?
[16:08] <Myrtti> my broken english detector bleeps while translating that to A/S/L Myrtti
[16:09] <LjL> uh, that takes some imagination to parse
[16:09] <bazhang> eww
[16:09] <LjL> i almost thought it was finnish...
[16:42] <Myrtti> uh-oh
[16:42] <Myrtti> BattleStarJesus on #ubuntu
[16:42] <Myrtti> let's see what he's up to
[16:45] <bazhang> wait he has no cloak this time
[16:46] <bazhang> wonder if he is the same guy from wisconsin who said sory for my bed englis
[16:46] <bazhang> falkman and one other nick
[16:49] <bazhang> sumdude was the other nick
[16:50] <bazhang> @login
[16:52] <bazhang> n=primary@24-179-150-227.dhcp.stpt.wi.charter.com battlestar
[16:53] <bazhang> 24-183-35-226.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com sumdude/falkman  guess not
[16:58] <LjL> Myrtti: are you actually going through the BT and checking each one's logs?
[17:00] <Myrtti> If I weren't, I'd run a sed on the damned file and get this over and done with in three minutes
[17:01] <LjL> Myrtti: you'll start screaming and banging on your keyboard if you keep doing this for much longer, you know that
[17:02] <Myrtti> LjL: I did this in the morning with #ubuntu-offtopic only energized with my pure anger
[17:02] <Seeker`> Myrtti doesn't do that anyway?
[17:02] <LjL> Seeker`: well yes
[17:07] <bazhang> phantomcircuit, how may we help you
[17:07] <phantomcircuit> uh
[17:07] <phantomcircuit> i don't know how i got here
[17:07] <phantomcircuit> heh
[17:07] <LjL> you were forwarded
[17:07] <bazhang> a ban-forward I would imagine
[17:08] <phantomcircuit> * #ubuntu Banlist: Sat Mar  7 11:02:29 *!*=phantomc@150.108.232.*!#ubuntu-ops Myrtti!i=myrtti@ubuntu/member/myrtti
[17:08] <phantomcircuit> that's today
[17:08] <LjL> yes
[17:08] <phantomcircuit> an hour ago
[17:08] <LjL> that's because of ban evasion
[17:09] <phantomcircuit> there isn't another ban for me though
[17:09] <LjL> no, it's been removed since it appears you've changed your host anyway
[17:09] <LjL> so it wouldn't be much use
[17:10] <phantomcircuit> oh right i turned off the proxy
[17:11] <Myrtti> I have to confess I've got no idea what you're talking about *now*
[17:12] <LjL> phantomcircuit: in any case, please consider your old ban still in effect
[17:13] <phantomcircuit> whatever
[17:16] <LjL> phantomcircuit: if you have no questions for us at this point, please feel free to leave
[17:18] <LjL> Myrtti, shall i remote some more dynamic-IP bans? i can feel your pain through the screen
[17:19] <Myrtti> I'm actually quite happy, I'm chatting with Duncan on skype at the same time and thinking about enhancing the sed script
[17:19] <LjL> alrighty
[17:19] <Myrtti> http://paste.ubuntu.com/127839/
[17:20] <Myrtti> hmm
[17:20] <Myrtti> I'm sure there's some there I've already removed
[17:20] <LjL> Myrtti: what does that list exactly?
[17:20] <Myrtti> needs to be tweaked
[17:20] <Myrtti> LjL: all the bans there is on #ubuntu currently
[17:21] <Myrtti> according to my irssis /bans
[17:22] <Myrtti> http://paste.ubuntu.com/127840/
[17:22] <Myrtti> yeah, I've mislooked at something
[17:22] <Myrtti> oh well
[17:23] <bazhang> shadeslayer in -ot and #k
[17:23] <LjL> Myrtti: well we have a couple hundred free slots now
[17:24] <Myrtti> LjL: mmmh
[17:24] <LjL> bazhang: the right answer is "it's not ubuntu related"
[17:32] <Myrtti> phantomcircuit: do you have anything else?
[17:32] <Myrtti> LjL: I wonder should I know 88.229.49.139
[17:32] <Myrtti> it's not on the bantracker
[17:35] <LjL> Myrtti: not in my logs
[17:36] <Myrtti> I'm leaving it there then
[17:36] <Myrtti> @mark
[17:37] <Myrtti> @mark #ubuntu *!*@88.229.49.139 if anyone has any idea about this ban, please leave a note in the bantracker. kthxbai
[17:37] <LjL> Myrtti: did i create it? (on my server it's shown as a server-created ban)
[17:38] <Myrtti> LjL: no I was just asking you because it is indeed a server created ban and there is nothing in bantracker, so I'm assuming it's an old one from the times dinosaurs roamed the earth and Seveas was clubbing them to death
[17:39] <Myrtti> was just wondering if you'd have logs or if anyone would have an idea what it was about
[17:40] <Myrtti> uhoh
[17:41] <Seeker`> "uhoh"?
[17:41] <LjL> pellwurst?
[17:41] <Myrtti> Seeker`: I sorta knew that if the boys here drop, there's a good chance the bantracker becomes unresponsive
[17:42] <Myrtti> works again though
[17:42] <LjL> ah
[17:43] <Myrtti> I really wish the bantracker logs had syntax hilight and there'd be a search thing at the footer too
[17:52] <Myrtti> some of these bans are flaky at best
[18:01] <Seeker`> "flaky"?
[18:03] <Myrtti> straight ban if someone gives a link to non-floss iphone app in #ubuntu almost instantly etc.
[18:03] <Seeker`> prior bans?
[18:03] <Myrtti> none
[18:03] <Seeker`> hmm
[18:03] <Myrtti> exactly
[18:04] <Myrtti> @mark #ubuntu *!*@210.215.140.180 if anyone has any idea about this ban, please leave a note in the bantracker. kthxbai
[18:10] <Myrtti> http://paste.ubuntu.com/127855/
[18:13] <Myrtti> I have limited understanding about this too *!*@201-92-237-97.dsl.telesp.net.br
[18:20] <Myrtti> @mark #ubuntu *!*@189.75.27.242 if anyone has any idea about this ban, please leave a note in the bantracker. kthxbai
[19:07] <nalioth> i cannot stress this enough:  if you ban someone you don't recognize, remove it after a few hours
[19:07] <nalioth> bans are not "fire and forget"
[19:11] <ikonia> okey dokey
[19:14] <Myrtti> \o/
[19:15] <Myrtti> http://paste.ubuntu.com/127884/
[19:16] <Myrtti> I'm done
[19:16] <Chipmunk> I did a clear in my channels a while ago, wooa what a headache, amazing how many old trolls still tried to join, even after months
[19:16]  * Myrtti huggles Gary
[19:17] <LjL> Chipmunk: it's what happens after a banlist clear, but then again, one just bans them again.
[19:18] <Chipmunk> yes, and now the banlist only has valid ones, which has reduced it from too many, to, one mo... 20
[19:18] <Myrtti> I feel like a saint...
[19:19] <ikonia> is there a possability of moving some of the long termers to a chanserv type ban ?
[19:21] <Myrtti> there are some bots that I know that keep a record for permbans and kickban people on them on join
[19:22] <Chipmunk> yeah, thats a common eggdrop thing (even I know of it)
[19:22] <LjL> Myrtti: what's the advantage over using chanserv?
[19:22] <Myrtti> LjL: idk chanserv did that ;-)
[19:22] <LjL> Myrtti: yeah, /cs help akick
[19:22] <jussi01> Chipmunk: What have you don with Gary? bring back Gary...
[19:22] <LjL> we have a few
[19:22] <LjL> only the council can set them though
[19:23] <Chipmunk> jussi01: I ATES HIMZ
[19:23] <jussi01> hehe
[19:23] <Myrtti> I noticed kayt and [c0re] there
[19:23]  * jussi01 is in london, being somewhat boring
[19:24] <jussi01> Chipmunk: come and visit me...
[19:25] <Chipmunk> jussi01: come to colchester and visit me :p
[19:25] <Chipmunk> (london scares me)
[19:25] <LjL> Chipmunk: for that matter, you probably scare london
[19:25] <jussi01> Chipmunk: to be truthful, im in Middlesex (is that right o.O)
[19:26] <LjL> i hope it's not.
[19:26] <Myrtti> *sigh*
[19:26]  * Myrtti goes to bed to read
[19:26] <Chipmunk> it's spelt middleSEX (rawr)
[19:26] <jussi01> heh... in a 4 star hotel though
[19:27] <jussi01> which I got for the bargain basement price of... wait for it... 44£
[19:27] <jussi01> then I had to pay 15£ for internets... :(
[19:28] <Chipmunk> 15 for interwebs, eeek
[19:28] <Chipmunk> 44 for the night is alright
[19:28] <LjL> Chipmunk: especially now your currency is worth naught
[19:28] <Chipmunk> well yeah
[19:29] <jpds> The places only end in -sex cos the Saxons were there.
[19:29] <Chipmunk> lies, it's cos we are, oooo thats offtopic
[19:30] <jussi01> *sniff* no one wants to visit me :P
[19:30] <jpds> jussi01: Go visit Nafallo :P
[19:31] <jussi01> jpds: nah...
[19:31] <jussi01> jpds: I meant in london... someone should visit me!
[19:31] <Myrtti> I must confess my stupidity, it took me a while to understand why there's wessex, essex, and sussex...
[19:32] <jpds> jussi01: Are you there till the 25th?
[19:32] <jussi01> jpds: I leave tomorrow...
[19:32] <LjL> Myrtti: there's no norsex?
[19:32] <Myrtti> LjL: nossex would be sad
[19:32] <jpds> jussi01: Tsk.
[19:32] <Chipmunk> there is norfolk
[19:32] <jussi01> oh dear...
[19:33] <Chipmunk> they is all weirdos there
[19:33] <Chipmunk> and drive tractors
[19:33] <jussi01> I cant believe this conversation is going on...
[19:33] <Myrtti> jussi01: it's saturday, and we're tired
[19:34] <jpds> LjL: North was taken by someone else: http://tinyurl.com/b38hxr
[19:34] <LjL> jpds: they should have appealed to staff for namespace ownership claims.
[19:35] <jpds> Heh.
[19:37] <Myrtti> omnomnom... 100% rye bread
[19:39] <Seeker`> jussi01: where in middlesex are you?
[19:40] <jussi01> Seeker`: sheraton skyline
[19:41] <Seeker`> I think that may have been where I had my school-leavers ball
[19:43] <jussi01> Seeker`: heh, cool
[19:43] <jussi01> its a big browny-red building...
[19:45] <Seeker`> http://www.starwoodhotels.com/pub/media/268/eu268ex3_md.jpg ?
[19:46] <jussi01> yep
[19:59] <Seeker`> yeah, pretty sure thats it
[20:17] <nalioth> jussi01: you make it to Houston, Texas, and I'll visit ya  :p
[20:18] <jussi01> nalioth: :D
[20:44] <LjL> since when is livingdaylight german
[20:50] <jpds> Hm?
[20:53] <LjL> jpds: see livingdaylight in #ubuntu
[20:54] <jpds> Oh, might just know the lingo.
[20:55] <jpds> I'm helping him in -uk now.
[20:57] <LjL> jpds: yeah except he's a known troublemaker, and he definitely knows #ubuntu is not german-speaking
[21:11] <LjL> funny
[21:12] <LjL> no one apparently noticed there was a typo in the topic i set on... october 17
[21:20] <Myrtti> nööööfffff
[21:20] <Myrtti> I broke my browser
[21:29] <LjL> [22:28:17] <{bosco}> LjL, no i have mac filtering and and wireless essid turned off then there is no need for keys
[21:29] <LjL> idiotic statement of the day
[21:33] <LjL> someone call it offtopic - i can't, i engaged in it...
[21:41] <Myrtti> BOOMCHICKA!
[22:25] <LjjjL> jdong or anyone (sorry dong for highlighting but i think you tend to play with disk drives), can you have a look at http://paste.ubuntu.com/127979/ and say how bad it looks - it's my eeepc's SSD
[22:26] <jdong> LjjjL: looks like minor FS corruption; try a dd-image then fsck?
[22:27] <LjjjL> jdong: well, it did result in the partition being remounted read-only (there's two parts in that logs, one before a reboot and one after, after the reboot fsck should have run automatically - although i missed while it was running - but then there are more errors logged)
[22:27] <jdong> reboot fsck won't fix these kinds of errors
[22:27] <jdong> you need to manually fsck -fy
[22:27] <LjjjL> ok, doing it
[22:27] <jdong> these are considered "more than ordinary" corruption that -p won't bother to touch
[22:28] <LjL> i think there's something small but important missing from these SSDs... some SMART-like information system
[22:29] <LjL> wha - give root password?!
[22:29] <LjL> i never set a root password. blah.
[22:31] <jdong> well it's unclear if it's block layer corruption or just filesystem corruption
[22:34] <LjL> jdong: two inodes with wrong i_blocks count, one with ref count 1 instead of 2...
[22:34] <LjL> and now some huge listing of numbers that's filled up my screen so i don't know what the question was.
[22:34] <LjL> yeah, a LONG listing of "block bitmap differences"
[22:35] <jdong> eep.
[22:35] <jdong> ouchies
[22:35] <LjL> free blocks count wrong for some group
[22:35] <LjL> and a couple more bitmap differences
[22:36] <LjL> jdong: any idea what i might try to see whether it's the hardware or not?
[22:42] <LjL> ahum, there's *still* the block bitmap differences after the fsck.
[22:42] <LjL> perhaps it is.
[22:54] <LjL> jdong: besides, it's /home, and i was doing absolutely nothing on the system when the first syslog entry was logged... and there's nothing else important before the first sdb-related syslog entry
[23:28] <Myrtti> ok, I'm going to head for bed.
[23:28] <Myrtti> take care kids