[00:00] <Dracie> ensay, its a laptop
[00:00] <Fly_> if after I install ubuntu and decide i want to use Xubuntu, must i download their install dist and install xubutu, or is there a different way, since they xubutu us a ubutu derivative?
[00:00] <ensay> Dracie -> for what purpose?
[00:00] <rww> Dracie: ext2
[00:00] <ScottG489> whip2: I know but i need it to hibernate
[00:00] <register> make sure in the properties that its set to volume
[00:00] <sebsebseb> Fly_: sudo aptitude install xubuntu-desktop
[00:00] <DIFH-iceroot> sebsebseb: no ext3 because of the journal (and so, mor writing on disc)
[00:00] <Dracie> how about using ext3 with noatime option
[00:00] <sebsebseb> Fly_: or you can do apt-get
[00:00] <Dracie> so it reduces writes and reduce swappiness
[00:00] <whip2> scott: nothing to do with that
[00:00] <rww> Dracie: you'd still have the journal. ext2 with noatime would be fine
[00:00] <awuja> sebsebseb I was following some "tutorial" to get my usb w/lan adapter to work with dhcp as IP wasn't assigning and now it wont recognise the device.. and I want to reinstall Windows for dual boot.
[00:00] <codeuser> ScottG489: I don't know enough about hibernation nuances to let you know more than I can find, in everything I've read your swap should be double your ram size to get hibernation.
[00:00] <xdfz> codeuser: thank you so much
[00:00] <xdfz> it works!!
[00:01] <xdfz> thanks again
[00:01] <codeuser> xdfz: np
[00:01] <Fly_> sebsebseb: and how would i delete the gnome files that have become unnecessary?
[00:01] <hfmls> how can i intsall e17 in ubuntu guys
[00:01] <ahmed1470> hi
[00:01] <MadAGu> Liboobs-CRITICAL **: Not committing due to inconsistencies in the configuration, this reflects a bug in the application , anyone knows what is this?
[00:01] <sebsebseb> Fly_: good idea to have both,  and  some apps from ubuntu-desktop like Firefox you will use in xubuntu I expect
[00:01] <sebsebseb> ahmed1470: hi
[00:01] <codeuser> hfmls: perhaps this: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-install-e17-enlightenment-desktop-in-ubuntu.html
[00:02] <sebsebseb> awuja: hummm ok
[00:02] <sebsebseb> !install
[00:02] <amaurea> Hello. I have a linux programming related question. I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask, really, but I'll give it a shot. I want to read another process's (owned by me) memory while it is running. I thought reading from /proc/pid/mem would accomplish that, but it seems I have to stop the process with ptrace before being able to read anything for some stupid reason. is there a way to accomplish what I want?
[00:02] <Beryllium> has anyone here run Ubuntu inside Parallels for Mac? How well (if at all) does it handle passing files in and out of the VM environment?
[00:02] <ahmed1470> wach rak sebseb
[00:02] <sebsebseb> ahmed1470: what?
[00:02] <codeuser> Beryllium: I haven't used parallels but I can fully recommend VirtualBox (which is free)
[00:02] <wolter> Oh sebsebseb, I think I just missed the meeting to get a membership!
[00:02] <wolter> Well, to try,
[00:02] <amaurea> if this is the wrong place to ask about that, do you know of a more proper place to ask?
[00:02] <codeuser> Beryllium: It worked great on my mac with about 7 guests
[00:03] <ahmed1470> h r u sebseb
[00:03] <awuja> sebsebseb: any idea how to use my XP boot disc to run on Ubuntu and reinstall? Fails with WINE.
[00:03] <sebsebseb> amaurea: #linux  you can try there
[00:03] <wolter> ahmed1470, I kill you!
[00:03] <Lint01> !ot|ahmed1470
[00:03] <sebsebseb> ahmed1470: I am superman
[00:03] <amaurea> sebsebseb: ok, thank you :)
[00:03] <sebsebseb> amaurea: yeah that's a general Linux channel
[00:03] <ahmed1470> good
[00:04] <ensay> what directory does modprobe looks at to load modules at boot time?
[00:04] <ensay> awuja -> your current ubuntu is still running okay right?
[00:05] <awuja> ensay: indeed it is.
[00:05] <ensay> awuja -> so what is the issue now?
[00:05] <Guest79405> tar -xjvf linux4one-1.1.tar.bz2
[00:06] <ScottG489> codeuser: according to that one link i should have 6GB
[00:06] <awuja> ensay: i want to install windows but am unable to boot from cd or usb.
[00:06] <codeuser> ensay: It is either /etc/modprobe.d/ or /etc/modules
[00:06] <awuja> ensay: dont hate me for wanting to install windows ;)
[00:06] <Guest79405> cd linux4one-1.1
[00:06] <sebsebseb> !netboot |  awuja
[00:06] <ensay> awuja -> well you can install vmwae server or workstation and run windows there as guest
[00:07] <sebsebseb> awuja: oh yeah WIndows not Ubuntu
[00:07] <Guest79405> sudo ./aggiornamento.sh
[00:07] <ensay> codeuser -> nope, its usually under  /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/
[00:07] <awuja> ensay: will this fresh install windows and give me the option to dual boot?
[00:08] <ensay> awuja -> you will be running linux and windows at same time
[00:08] <awuja> ensay: i want to run them separately
[00:08] <ensay> awuja -> picky... they are run in separate enviroment off course
[00:08] <codeuser> ScottG489: I didn't look at it too fully but, if that is what it says you might try it. Do this: (perhaps backup first) Load your livecd. Open up GParted. remove your swap partition. If needed, scoot your main partition over to fill the void. Resize your main partition to be smaller than it is. Create a new swap. Click apply.
[00:08] <funkyHat> How can I install the full cli version of vim without installing the gui components?
[00:09] <codeuser> ScottG489:  come back awhile later and reboot. Try to hibernate again.
[00:09] <codeuser> funkyHat: Why does space matter that much?
[00:09] <awuja> ensay: i know. i want two separate partions
[00:09] <funkyHat> codeuser: vim-full pulls in dbus, esound, gconf and x fonts
[00:10] <codeuser> funkyHat: oh, i realize the obviousness of that now.
[00:10] <ensay> awuja   they will be in separate partitions, one is virtual even
[00:10] <funkyHat> and a whole bunch of other gnome libs
[00:10] <DIFH-iceroot> funkyHat: sudo apt-get install vim? or what do you mean?
[00:10] <awuja> ensay: so it will be as if I have installed Ubuntu via Windows and have the option of which OS to use at boot?
[00:10] <jrib> funkyHat: vim-nox
[00:11] <awuja> (or vice versa in this case..)
[00:11] <codeuser> awuja: Do you want to install windows and boot it on its own, or run it inside of windows?
[00:11] <awuja> codeuser: boot it on its own and have the option to boot Ubuntu if I want to,
[00:11] <ensay> awuja -> well you can install vmwae server or workstation and run windows there as guest
[00:11] <funkyHat> jrib: thanks :)
[00:12] <ensay> what directory does modprobe looks at to load modules at boot time? it can not find my  /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/ubuntu/misc/wireless/acx.ko   at boot
[00:13] <ScottG489> codeuser: well thats sort of what I did before. Before, ubuntus built in hibernate feature worked, but I could barly have any programs open so it defeated the purpose. When I first installed ubuntu on this laptop i only made it work like 1.5GB of swap then just made a swap file. That was ok for general use but i thought i would make a swap file to help me hibernate. Well a little while later i learned that hibernate cant use
[00:13] <ScottG489> swap files. So I used GParted and removed the swap file and added it to my hard drive space and then made my swap partition 4GB. However, now when i use ubuntu's hibernate it seems to hibernate OK but then boots back up like any normal boot
[00:13] <codeuser> awuja: (Backup! all partitioning has a chance for error) stick in the ubuntu livecd. then open up the partition editor under system->administration. Then resize your main partition. Create a new "Fat" partition. Then reboot with windows cd. install. The only issue is this destroys your GRUB (thing that starts ubuntu.) You have to reinstall that.
[00:14] <ScottG489> codeuser: and s2disk goes to a virtual terminal like screen and gets ready to hibernate but then just takes me back to the gui
[00:14] <codeuser> ScottG489: In my (humble) opinion, hibernation serves little purpose over sleep mode/shut down. Why do you need hibernation specifically?
[00:15] <awuja> codeuser: partition editor not present. I take it I need to install via synaptics?
[00:15] <sebsebseb> awuja: sudo apt-get install gparted
[00:15] <codeuser> awuja: On the livecd, there is a partition editor. You cannot edit the partition while it is in use.
[00:15] <codeuser> awuja: that is why you must use the livecd
[00:16] <sebsebseb> awuja: that's for a proper install.  on the live cd it's on it by default
[00:16] <awuja> I only have a USB cd drive.. does this matter?
[00:16] <ScottG489> codeuser: Well it can last for extended periods of time. It can also be dangerous to leave your laptop in your backpack while its in suspend mode. And sometimes when i resume from suspend i have random problems
[00:16] <codeuser> awuja: How did you install ubuntu?
[00:16] <awuja> codeuser: windows via usb cd drive
[00:16] <codeuser> awuja: then it doesn't matter.
[00:17] <ensay> awuja -> your usb does not matter, since you mentioned you can not boot from it
[00:17] <keres> when you chown something, and it says 'read only filesystem', even with sudo, how do you fix write protection?
[00:17] <awuja> ok so the best way is to use the partition manager, create a new fat partition and reinstall grub? or to use VM?
[00:17] <codeuser> ScottG489: I have an Aspire One (Acer). I leave mine in suspend a ton. There is not any danger to suspend, it just uses a small amount of batter over time to maintain the RAM. It does very little different than hibernate.
[00:18] <ensay> keres -> for cdrom, you are out of luck, you can not write to a cdrom,  other re-mountable FS you can remount rw
[00:18] <Lint01> keres: you must remount fs as read-write, that's obly way
[00:18] <equex> anyone knows how to get xrdp working in intrepid ? i am using xubuntu as client. i did the only thing i could find on the issue, ln -s /usr/share/fonts/X11 /usr/share/X11/fonts
[00:18] <keres> ensay: usb stick, lol.
[00:18] <equex> but i keep getting a black screen
[00:18] <ScottG489> codeuser: well the results arent much different but how it works is. suspend is to the RAM and still uses some power. hibernate is to the disk and completely shuts down and doesnt need power at all
[00:18] <keres> Lint01: Darn.
[00:19] <whip2> naah, shut it down for good.. thats the way i do it ..
[00:19] <Nytrix> what is like Download Accelerator for ubuntu?
[00:20] <rww> Nytrix: If you're using Firefox, the DownThemAll Firefox addon works well.
[00:20] <termea> can anyone help novice linux user, install ubuntu 8.10 from Persistent USB Flash drive I bought from livecd.org
[00:20] <ensay> Nytrix -> paying your ISP bunch of dollars so they can upgrade your speed :P
[00:20] <whip2> thats why theres this "desktop" & "laptop" thingie :I
[00:20] <codeuser> ScottG489: True. You could try more swap. That seems to be the only viable solution.
[00:20] <ring0> how do i remove 32bit libraries on a 64bit os, which were added to run an 32bit program?
[00:20] <codeuser> Nytrix: you could run it with Wine.
[00:20] <keithclark> Hey everyone!  I have an old Toshiba A10 laptop and the CD ROM is no longer working.  I'd like to install Ubuntu over another Linux distro that is currently on the machine, but it won't boot from a USB due to its age.  Any way to instal over a network connection?
[00:20] <ensay> termea -> your laptop or desktop supports booting from usb?
[00:20] <Nytrix> anything other than DownThemAll?
[00:21] <termea> yes, thank you
[00:21] <sidewalk> how do i setup a wpa ad-hoc wifi network between two ubuntu machines?
[00:21] <sidewalk> the network manager doesnt work
[00:21] <codeuser> keithclark: you could try the tedious task of network booting it.
[00:21] <xiq> hello, how can i skin the "taskbar" in xubuntu?
[00:21] <whip2> flashgot
[00:21] <ensay> keithclark -> i can think of two ways,  debootstrap  and unetbootin
[00:21] <codeuser> keithclark:  or use an external cd drive
[00:21] <ScottG489> codeuser: Well there has to be another problem with the laptop not finding the hibernation file in swap when it starts back up. I mean hibernate used to work, just not very well, not it doesnt discover the file on startup
[00:21] <sidewalk> !ad-hoc
[00:22] <ensay> termea -> then all you need to do, is set your bios to boot from usb as priority 1,  plug in your usb dongle and boot..
[00:22] <ScottG489> !bots
[00:22] <Roxy> Hello! Does anyone have an idea as to how my linux partition could suddenly shift for the worse with linux being the only partition?
[00:22] <ScottG489> !penis
[00:22] <jotun> Hello everyone
[00:22] <rampage73> sidewalk, what are you wanting to know about ad-hoc?
[00:22] <LjL> sidewalk: i don't know about network-manager, but i know how to do it manually from /etc/network/interfaces (except then n-m might interfere with that)
[00:22] <armence> Hi all, I am having the following problem: I recently installed Ubuntu 8.1 on my Toshiba Satellite M40 and was very pleased until yesterday when the following problem emerged: A few minutes after log on, it freezes (even the mouse won't move) and then reboots.
[00:22] <LjL> !botabuse | ScottG489
[00:22] <bazhang> ScottG489, stop that
[00:22] <armence> Can anyone help?
[00:22] <ScottG489> lol ok i just wanted to see if it would work :(
[00:23] <magcius> Has anybody in here seriously gotten Hibernate to work?
[00:23] <sidewalk> LjL: would like to know how to setup a WPA PSK2 wifi ad-hoc network between two machines, cant get it working with the network manager
[00:23] <magcius> From reading on the web, it seems like nVidia breaks Hibernate.
[00:23] <Nytrix> !hibernate
[00:23] <termea> ensay, thank you, I do that and I get umenue,exe which ubuntu,but It only loads to the terminal mode
[00:23] <bazhang> magcius, with intrepid or jaunty
[00:23] <termea> not any gui
[00:23] <ensay> armence -> can you reboot again and working okay now?
[00:23] <keithclark> thanks ensay, codeuser, I'm researching unetbootin now.
[00:23] <LjL> sidewalk: i can tell you how to do the ad-hoc part, don't remember about using WPA
[00:23] <awuja> I've got the Partition Editor infront of me and obviously as you said I cannot edit the partition whilst it's in use but how am I going to go about re-installing windows? Sorry to be a pain :\
[00:23] <magcius> bazhang, I'm on Jaunty right now, but it was broken on Intrepid too.
[00:23] <ScottG489> codeuser: So what config files does ubuntus hibernate use?
[00:23] <armence> ensay: No, I'm working from the LiveCD...
[00:23] <codeuser> ScottG489: idk, when did you install this ubuntu?
[00:23] <sidewalk> LjL: wep is too weak
[00:23] <bazhang> magcius, then #ubuntu+1 (as you know)
[00:24] <ensay> armence -> why not try again to boot from your hd?
[00:24] <magcius> bazhang, I'm in there.
[00:24] <ScottG489> codeuser: like 2-3 months ago. I have 8.10
[00:24] <LjL> sidewalk: well then look up how to do WPA inside /e/n/i. i'm sure there's plenty of articles about that.
[00:24] <termea> ubunut@ubuntu:`$ is where I am at now on the other computer
[00:24] <magcius> bazhang, it seems to be a problem in Intrepid as well so I'm asking here.
[00:24] <armence> ensay: I did about a dozen times
[00:24] <ensay> termea -> when you boot from the usb dongle, what display you get?
[00:25] <armence> ensay: Perhaps 50th time is the charm, but I find that unlikely...
[00:25] <ensay> armence -> but you did not mention what was the result ?
[00:25] <termea> umenue.exe
[00:26] <aluno_> oi
[00:26] <aluno_> tem alguem ai
[00:26] <ensay> termea -> perhaps type in  startx  to get the X window going
[00:26] <aluno_> ?
[00:26] <ensay> !who | termea ->
[00:26] <mezy> what is the package handler for when something is downloaded with firefox?
[00:26] <termea> startx   ok, I will give that a try-thanks
[00:26] <codeuser> ScottG489: Your problem is difficult. I don't anything further on the subject (at least, nothing pops to mind that would be helpful.)
[00:26] <armence> ensay: No change, it locks up a few minutes after I log on
[00:26] <ensay> !who | termea
[00:27] <ScottG489> codeuser: hm, well i guess ill try making it 8 gigs of swap then
[00:27] <Lint01> !tab
[00:27] <ensay> armence -> how long does it take before it freezes on you?
[00:27] <codeuser> ScottG489: Ok, hopefully that will fix it.
[00:28] <armence> ensay: It is variable, but less than 10 minutes. Sometimes, it freezes less than 1 minute after I log on. Usually, 3-4 minutes I would say
[00:28] <whip2> id put that extra 8GB rathe in porn or something useful.. :I
[00:28] <ScottG489> codeuser: i wish i knew where ubuntus hibernate config files were...
[00:28] <ScottG489> whip2: well i need it to hibernate dude :/
[00:28] <ensay> armence -> well its a good sign that you're at least able to boot with gui.. next question.. are you using wireless?
[00:29] <whip2> yeah.. mee too >
[00:29] <armence> ensay: Yes
[00:29] <tmh__> my /dev/sdb suddenly became /dev/sdd and now when I try to reassemble my RAID5 md device it thinks sdd is a spare and not active. how can I tell it to reassemble so they're both active?
[00:29] <register> do you think i could install fedora 10 using the ubuntu usb drive installer
[00:29] <codeuser> register: yes
[00:29] <ring0> how do i remove 32bit libraries on a 64bit os, which were added to run an 32bit program?
[00:30] <codeuser> register: but why wouldn't you just VirtualBox the fedora image to test it out. (I feel ubuntu is better)
[00:30] <ensay> armence -> thats most likely the cause of your freezing.. wireless interrupt never get serviced correctly in ubuntu, my past experience tells me
[00:30] <rww> ring0: how did you add them, and which version of Ubuntu are you using?
[00:30] <ensay> armence -> it gets confused when switching between ap it attempts to associate.. well perhaps i have an el cheapo wifi card too :P
[00:31] <armence> ensay: Is there a way to check that? Like a log file which would tell me at what point in time it crashed? Because I was able to go online without difficulty until it crashed...
[00:31] <ring0> rww: i use ubuntu 8.10 64bit. i added the libraries with getlibs according to the wiki
[00:31] <codeuser> armence, ensay. How I wish there were an easy way to look for wireless related kernel panics.
[00:31] <ensay> armence -> nope, nothing, service interrupts never gets logged, but you can try to watch it with...
[00:31] <codeuser> armence, ensay. I've tried myself, but it doesn't seem to exit.
[00:32] <codeuser> exist*
[00:32] <rampage73> can anyone help me with installing this? i am trying to install mtpfs on ubuntu 7.10
[00:32] <rampage73> http://paste.ubuntu.com/127453/
[00:32] <ensay> you can try to use   watch -c1  /proc/interrupts    something like this
[00:32] <rampage73> that is what i get when i run make
[00:32] <rampage73> configure runs fine
[00:32] <Weez> codeuser, its a gnome app that controls startup services you can toggle gdm on and off i just cant remember what the utility is called
[00:32] <awuja> Also.. I can't get my Wireless USB device to be recognised either under NetworkManager or Wicd. I have installed the driver. Any ideas?
[00:33] <codeuser> rampage73: Why are you using 7.10? That is no longer supported by normal standards (I've never even used that!)
[00:33] <danbhfive> awuja: do you see it under iwconfig?
[00:33] <calebe> someone ?
[00:33] <armence> ensay: OK, I'll turn off my wireless card and see what happens... I'm not really optimistic, but then again, slightly more than I was a few minutes ago
[00:33] <awuja> danbhfive: no
[00:33] <codeuser> Weez: Oh, maybe you are talking about Sessions (Preferences -> Sessions) or Administration -> Services.
[00:34] <codeuser> armence: have you tried a different kernel version
[00:34] <Weez> that may be it
[00:34] <Weez> thanks
[00:34] <armence> ensay: Actually, wait a second, that does not seem to explain the fact that I can safely use wireless with the LiveCD
[00:34] <calebe> it's my first time in this chat
[00:34] <danbhfive> awuja: then I don't think the driver is installed correctly yet
[00:34] <codeuser> armence: like at startup
[00:34] <ensay> armence -> am not saying thats the only cause, look for where you're doing i/o stuff other than networking..
[00:34] <rww> ring0: packages installed using getlibs should be removable through the package manager, if I'm reading right.
[00:34] <rampage73> sorry have not had time to get it updated i guess
[00:34] <jtaji> rampage73: 7.10 is actually supported for at least another month
[00:34] <armence> codeuser: No
[00:34] <awuja> danbhfive: it was there once.. and now it's not. ive used windows wireless drivers and used the driver from the cd provided with the device.
[00:34] <codeuser> rampage73: I would help you, but I joined ubuntu at 8.04.
[00:34] <rampage73> codeuser, but you are right i should upgrade
[00:35] <magcius> I like Services because it's a simple app that uses the Unlock metaphor. Why can't more apps use Unlock?
[00:35] <danbhfive> awuja: are you using ndiswrapper?
[00:35] <jtaji> rampage73: if you're going to upgrade instead of reinstall, you might want to do it soon
[00:35] <awuja> danbhfive: yes
[00:35] <rampage73> codeuser, tell you what i will upgrade (need to anywho) and i will be back
[00:35] <danbhfive> awuja: does modprobe ndiswrapper get it working?
[00:35] <rampage73> thanks
[00:35] <magcius> Furthermore, why can't more apps use the Authenticate dialog that shows up instead of gksu?
[00:35] <codeuser> rampage73: ok!
[00:35] <ring0> rww: that could be true since i found them in the package manager. i just wasn't sure if the packages i found were 32bit or needed 64bit versions.
[00:35] <ensay> holly molly, 123 upgrades for an 8.10 install i have not used for a month..
[00:35] <MiMiSoSo> what is a tool like system info on linux? i know we can use the cli but i want gui...
[00:36] <mezy> what is the package handler for when something is downloaded with firefox?
[00:36] <awuja> danbhfive: no
[00:36] <codeuser> mezy: gdebi-gtk
[00:36] <ensay> MiMiSoSo -> look around system->administration
[00:37] <mezy> codeuser: thanks. im using backtrack and im wondering if there is a version for it
[00:37] <codeuser> ensay: the updates come quick.. lol
[00:37] <ring0> rww: would you happen to know how to remove packages i installed using "dpkg --force-architecture"?
[00:37] <ewook> premature updates?
[00:37] <ring0> rww: this package i couldn't find in the package manager
[00:37] <codeuser> mezy: well, Debian package management, gdebi-gtk is the actual app that installs downloaded packages.
[00:37] <mezy> codeuser: ok, thanks
[00:38] <MiMiSoSo> ensay: there is no system info there,
[00:38] <MiMiSoSo> only system monitor
[00:38] <codeuser> ring0: try sudo apt-get remove <packagename>
[00:39] <awuja> danbhfive: any other suggestions?
[00:39] <b1n42y> what software can i use for my ipod
[00:39] <sebsebseb> !ipod
[00:39] <ring0> codeuser: i tried it but it says the package isn't installed
[00:39] <codeuser> awuja: is your wireless not working?
[00:39] <MiMiSoSo> got it sysinfo on add remove apps
[00:39] <sebsebseb> !rockbox
[00:40] <MiMiSoSo> thanks
[00:40] <b1n42y> sebastien, thanks
[00:40] <codeuser> ring0: go to synaptic and check
[00:40] <danbhfive> awuja: well, is it listed as working with ndiswrapper -l?
[00:40] <awuja> codeuser: correct
[00:40] <mezy> codeuser: oh yeah, i also have been wonder if there is a way to have an icon for recently installed apps. for file-roller (i dont know if bt4 has an archiver) i have to use the terminal to use it
[00:40] <codeuser> awuja: What is type of wireless card is it?
[00:40] <sebsebseb> blue112: also there's a itunes alternative you can find on http://www.osalt.com and I guess on http://www.linuxeq.com as well
[00:40] <awuja> codeuser: wireless usb mode linksys
[00:40] <blue112> Huh
[00:40] <awuja> netusb : driver installed
[00:40] <awuja> 	device (1915:2233) present (alternate driver: at76_usb)
[00:40] <sebsebseb> oh he left already and I send to wrong guy
[00:41] <codeuser> mezy: do you want to list recently installed apps, or make an icon for them?
[00:41] <blue112> Héhé
[00:41] <sebsebseb> blue112: sent to you by mistake since that guy left
[00:41] <ring0> codeuser: there is a version of the package in synaptic. but it's not installed
[00:41] <blue112> Np.
[00:41] <Derander> I have a package.  It is installed correctly.  Aptitude thinks it is half installed.  Can I cancel the installation without removing the package?
[00:41] <mezy> codeuser: i should do both
[00:41] <codeuser> ring0: maybe it isn't installed... (anymore)
[00:41] <register> does anyone know a visual basic client for ubuntu
[00:41] <sebsebseb> b1n42y: oh you didn't leave, well see above
[00:42] <ring0> codeuser: it is, i can use it in the terminal
[00:42] <sebsebseb> register: visual basic oh man LOL
[00:42] <sebsebseb> register: Visaul Basic sucks,  learn Python :)
[00:42] <SpyKid> Hi all ... i would like to hear you all what the best Dock for Linux Ubuntu 8.10 is :)
[00:42] <sebsebseb> SkyKit |  Best
[00:42] <codeuser> ring0: odd...
[00:42] <sebsebseb> !Best |  SpyKid
[00:42] <gearWhore[120]> how do i run an executable in ubuntu
[00:42] <tmh__> is there a separate RAID help channel?
[00:42] <sebsebseb> SpyKid:  Cairo Dock is meant to be good
[00:42] <sebsebseb> !dock
[00:42] <eseven73> SpyKid:  cairo-dock is pretty nice
[00:43] <tmh__> !raid
[00:43] <TheEdge_> anyone know if there is a program like Daemon Tools for ubuntu
[00:43] <register> where can i get the ubuntu alternate iso i can't find it on the download page
[00:43] <SpyKid> sebsebseb:  Alright thanks :)
[00:43] <register> i need it for ltsp
[00:43] <tmh__> TheEdge_: if you just want to mount the iso so it shows under a directory, you can do that with mount
[00:43] <SpyKid> eseven73:  ALright thanks ill check it out
[00:43] <ZykoticK9> TheEdge_, you can mount ISO images natively in linux???
[00:43] <sebsebseb> TheEdge_: nope don't think so,  but mounting ISO's is not that difficult in Ubuntu
[00:43] <sebsebseb> !mount
[00:43] <sebsebseb> !iso
[00:43] <SpyKid> ubottu:  ALright sorry then
[00:43] <codeuser> register:http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors#alternate
[00:44] <codeuser> register: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors#alternate
[00:44] <register> thanks i just found it as you told me lol
[00:44] <sebsebseb> register: what???
[00:44] <ring0> codeuser: so, i just search for the program directories with find and delete them?
[00:44] <codeuser> register: lol
[00:44] <sebsebseb> register: oh nm  seen above
[00:44] <TheEdge_> thanks all
[00:44] <MiMiSoSo> whats the command to see for cli to know what ubuntu release i'm using?
[00:44] <mylisto> I need to make a boot disk for a windows desktop machine that is down at the moment...Is it possible to make a usb boot disk in ubuntu?
[00:45] <sebsebseb> !install
[00:45] <sebsebseb> !usb
[00:45] <codeuser> ring0: not recommended. Your problem is interesting. Why don't you install the 64-bit version from synaptic over the 32 bit version then uninstall from synaptic.
[00:45] <sebsebseb> !release
[00:45] <m1dn1ght> Bit of a long shot - but does anyone here use the tintin mud client?
[00:45] <sebsebseb> !version
[00:45] <register> MiMiSoSo: i believe it lsb_release -a
[00:45] <register> i was right
[00:46] <awuja> can anyone offer help with reinstalling windows via PM?
[00:46] <ring0> codeuser: that sounds like plan. i'll try it
[00:46] <sebsebseb> awuja: maybe
[00:46] <codeuser> awuja: PM? Private Message or something else?
[00:46] <sebsebseb> awuja: you have  the  install CD?
[00:46] <m1dn1ght> l
[00:46] <MiMiSoSo> thanks register works well...
[00:46] <awuja> sebsebseb: yes
[00:46] <sebsebseb> awuja: ok why do you want to re install Windows?
[00:46] <mylisto> anyone?
[00:47] <awuja> codeuser: Private Message (PM)
[00:47] <sebsebseb> mylisto: anyone what?
[00:47] <Stylee> lshw
[00:47] <locainex_> ow my face
[00:47] <register> anyone know the closet ubuntu download server to buffalo. the waterloo is ok but i was wondering if there was one closer
[00:47] <codeuser> awuja: just do it here. Use another computer for IRC
[00:47] <Stylee> lshw
[00:47] <IndyGunFreak> awuja: why would you need help reinstalling windows, besides that, this isn't the channel for that.
[00:47] <Stylee> opps
[00:47] <mylisto> trying to make a windows xp boot disk...on a usb flash drive...can I do this via ubuntu sebsebseb:
[00:48] <codeuser> register: It shouldn't make that big a difference as long as it is on the same continent.
[00:48] <awuja> indygunfreak: i appreciate that
[00:48] <sebsebseb> mylisto: maybe, but  there is some way to make  WIndows Live CD's,  but  never tried it,  and uhmmmmm
[00:48] <IndyGunFreak> awuja: just saying, installing windows is extremely straightforward
[00:48] <sebsebseb> mylisto: you are best to ask questions like that to the Windows fan boys in #windows
[00:48] <awuja> codeuser: i cant boot from CD so am stuck as to how else i can go about it?
[00:48] <mylisto> I need a boot disk...so that I can fix the mbr
[00:48] <LjL> !nickspam > OHAITHAR    (OHAITHAR, see the private message from ubottu)
[00:48] <mylisto> need to make the boot disk in ubuntu
[00:49] <IndyGunFreak> awuja: can you boot an ubuntu cd ?.. or just your windows cd won't boot
[00:49] <awuja> indygunfreak: i can't boot any cd
[00:49] <codeuser> awuja: usb flash or usb cd
[00:49] <sebsebseb> mylisto: Windows probably does not deserve to go on your computer for real on the hard disk, so how about running it inside Windows in a virtual machine instead?
[00:49] <IndyGunFreak> awuja: then thats a hardware issue, and again, nothing to do w/ here
[00:49] <IndyGunFreak> awuja: or your bios isn't set correctly
[00:49] <awuja> codeuser: my BIOS only boots USB-FDD?
[00:49] <sebsebseb> mylisto: uh that was meant to say: running it inside Ubuntu in a virtual machine
[00:49] <mylisto> sebsebseb: its my gf's machine..she wants windeows
[00:50] <IndyGunFreak> mylisto: here's what i would do..
[00:50] <sebsebseb> mylisto: yeah good luck trying to convert your gf to Ubuntu :d    and this is not Windows suppourt so go and ask the Windows fan boys in #windows as I already said
[00:50] <IndyGunFreak> mylisto: do you have a thumb drive?
[00:50] <Stylee> I have a weird problem, my onboard ethernet was first detected in ubuntu, then not then again and now not again what could be wrong?
[00:50] <Nytrix> windows sucks
[00:50] <codeuser> awuja: a usb cd-drive should be considered a regular cd drive
[00:50] <mylisto> was going to try a ubuntu live cd...but it ain't working
[00:50] <mylisto> yes I do indyfunfrea:
[00:50] <awuja> codeuser: should it be listed in the bios?
[00:50] <codeuser> Nytrix: agreed, but what does that have to with anything?
[00:50] <IndyGunFreak> mylisto: hang on a sec.
[00:51] <mylisto> thanks bro
[00:51] <Nytrix> operating systems :p
[00:51] <sebsebseb> Nytrix: as an  OS yes, but sadly  most software that people want to use  works on it, plus since it has the monoplgy (did I spell that right I guess not)  every PC hardware maker suppourts it properly
[00:51] <codeuser> awuja: If there is no floppy drive, it is 99.9999% chance it boots from cd
[00:51] <Nytrix> sad isn't?
[00:51] <awuja> codeuser: the only cd drive showing in my bios is the one that is broken.. not my usb one.
[00:51] <Nytrix> lol
[00:51] <b1n42y> sebsebseb, thanks
[00:51] <sebsebseb> Nytrix: yep the amount of stuff MS have been able to get away with since they  have most market share, but the times are changing
[00:52] <codeuser> just arrange the bios to boot everything (minus network) before your hard drive. plug in the external w/cd. turn on computer.
[00:52] <sebsebseb> Nytrix: Mac OS X is on 10%  market share, and more desktop Linux users and BSD and that, as time goes by
[00:52] <Stylee> lshw says network Disabled
[00:52] <sebsebseb> Nytrix: and once alternative OS's have much more of the market, that will make MS make Windows a lot better to.  so it's a win win for both camps
[00:52] <register> anyone have any files that are like the ones in /home/user/example folder for edubuntu
[00:53] <me2resh> i went to #windows to see what they are talking about, they are talking about something called "antivirus", has anyone heard this term before here ?
[00:53] <ScottG489> codeuser: I think I need to patch my kernel or something...
[00:53] <register> nice me2resh
[00:53] <ScottG489> codeuser: hibernate:Warning: Tuxonice binary signature file not found.
[00:53] <sebsebseb> me2resh: sure for Linux email servers, to scan for Windows viruses
[00:53] <IndyGunFreak> mylisto: what i would do, is download unetbootin, install it on the live CD, then donwload hte super grub disk iso, and use it to re-write the windows mbr
[00:53] <codeuser> sebsebseb: Nytrix: "What is popular isn't always right, what is right isn't always popular." Windows is not justifiable (IMHO). Wine runs >80% of windows apps. The rest run on mac and windows.
[00:53] <awuja> codeuser: i'll try again
[00:53] <Nytrix> open source evolves much faster always increasing its speed of development :)
[00:54] <codeuser> ScottG489: try this. Go to a terminal then type "sudo update-initramfs -u"
[00:54] <mylisto> what indygunfreak:?
[00:54] <sebsebseb> codeuser: Wine runs 80% of WIndows apps, uh  sure with configuring
[00:54] <SaintD> whats up
[00:54] <sebsebseb> codeuser: Wine is not user friendly, but  Codeweavers and Cedega are commercial versions of Wine
[00:54] <Scunizi> What's "tec" .. water I know :)
[00:54] <codeuser> sebsebseb: other than games, very few apps i've tried *don't
[00:54] <codeuser> sebsebseb: *work
[00:54] <IndyGunFreak> mylisto: type this w/o quotes, i'll talk you trhough it.. "/join #indygunfreak"
[00:54] <ScottG489> codeuser: ok done now what?
[00:54] <sebsebseb> codeuser: ,but Wine should run most apps that Windows 98 can run
[00:55] <PKodon> /join#kubuntu
[00:55] <Nytrix> yeah i own a crossover program :) and game support :)
[00:55] <codeuser> ScottG489: try it again
[00:55] <tensei> whats the channel for php help?
[00:55] <register> the only windows apps i've got wine to run were firefox and recuva
[00:55] <codeuser> ScottG489: (hibernation)
[00:55] <sebsebseb> tensei: I guess #php
[00:55] <codeuser> sebsebseb: it can run way more than that.
[00:55] <sebsebseb> register: Windows firefox in wine hum
[00:55] <sebsebseb> codeuser: if the user knows what they are doing yes
[00:55] <sebsebseb> codeuser: if not no
[00:55] <codeuser> sebsebseb: I've seen Sins of a Solar Empire running. That is testing almost everything about wine.
[00:56] <ScottG489> codeuser:
[00:56] <ScottG489> scott@scott-laptop:/etc/hibernate$ sudo hibernate --dry-run
[00:56] <ScottG489> hibernate:Warning: Tuxonice binary signature file not found.
[00:56] <codeuser> sebsebseb: little to no config
[00:56] <Nytrix> WOW works winr wine i hear
[00:56] <jeeves> what is the package called for the openssh-server in 8.10?
[00:56] <Nytrix> winr = with
[00:56] <codeuser> Nytrix: same here
[00:56] <Nytrix> :)
[00:56] <sebsebseb> codeuser: it's like the Ubuntu  mods are on vacation loads now?   we are off topic and they are not going on at us about it :D
[00:56] <codeuser> sebsebseb: lol.
[00:56] <Nytrix> !topic
[00:56] <Nytrix> :)
[00:56] <codeuser> sebsebseb: there are no mods right now.
[00:57] <register> in #windows there literaly talking about how there computers are being slow
[00:57] <sebsebseb> codeuser: seriously the last 2 weeks when I been  here, I hardly seen them
[00:57] <bazhang> !ot
[00:57] <Nytrix> windows sucks :)
[00:57] <codeuser> sebsebseb: this is my first day on IRC! lol
[00:57] <jeeves> what is the package called for the openssh-server in 8.10?
[00:57] <sebsebseb> bazhang: :)  :d  there you are
[00:57] <Flannel> jeeves: openssh-server
[00:57] <Nytrix> !openssh
[00:57] <sebsebseb> codeuser: bazhang is a mod. maybe his client flashes when the word mod is used or something I don't know
[00:58] <jeeves> Flannel, hey man, long time no chat.  and I tried that.  I get that it dosen't find that package
[00:58] <codeuser> sebsebseb: I thought the green dot indicated mod?
[00:58] <magcius> How do I start a dbus service?
[00:58]  * bruce89 thought the mod this year was good
[00:58] <Nytrix> !dbus
[00:58] <Flannel> jeeves: pastebin the output for: sudo apt-get update && apt-cache policy openssh-server  (and howdy, howdy)
[00:58] <Tniffoc> I need to remove the firefox beta that came with my distro. How can I do this?
[00:58] <sebsebseb> codeuser: what green dot?
[00:58] <Flannel> Tniffoc: Which version of Ubuntu are you running?
[00:58] <Nytrix> magical, type gbus in terminal?
[00:58] <bazhang> Nytrix, please /msg ubottu
[00:59] <mezy> i need help
[00:59] <codeuser> sebsebseb: like the one next to FloodBot3. (XChat)
[00:59] <Flannel> sebsebseb: You weren't really offtopic, which is why I hadn't said anything.
[00:59] <ScottG489> codeuser: so yea im pretty sure i need to do some sort of kernel patch
[00:59] <magcius> !ask
[00:59] <Tniffoc> Flannel: ummm.. whatevers' s newer... fiesty or hardy
[00:59] <sebsebseb> Flannel: ah right yeah, your a mod as well
[00:59] <Stylee> is possible that my onboard etherned card is called pan0?
[00:59] <codeuser> ScottG489: do you have any older kernel versions installed?
[00:59] <jeeves> Flannel, one sec.  I've got to flip over to the other system
[00:59] <Nytrix> !language | bazhang
[00:59] <register> hardy is newer
[00:59] <Nytrix> :)
[00:59] <Tniffoc> register: ty
[00:59] <sebsebseb> Nytrix: do that to a mod and you maybe get kicked out :D
[01:00] <bruce89> Tniffoc: alphabetical order
[01:00] <sebsebseb> oh he did heh
[01:00] <Flannel> Tniffoc: what does `lsb_release -a` give you?
[01:00] <Nytrix> :p
[01:00] <ScottG489> codeuser: no i just think that to use the functionality you need a patch
[01:00] <register> hardy is a long term realese you should use that
[01:00] <sebsebseb> Nytrix: I warned that might happen, but it was to late
[01:00] <TheEdge_> when i try to mount iso file as dvd or cdrom it says that mount point does not exist..
[01:00] <codeuser> ScottG489: not usually.
[01:00] <Nytrix> lol i saw it coming befor hand
[01:01] <Jan|> how do I install ubuntu on the free space left on my disk?
[01:01] <Flannel> Nytrix: Please remain ontopic.
[01:01] <TheEdge_> !mount
[01:01] <sebsebseb> Jan|:  how much space?
[01:01] <Nytrix> yes sir
[01:01] <Nytrix> :)
[01:01] <Jan|> sebsebseb 28.72GB
[01:01] <jeeves> Flannel, I can't get xchat installed on it.  one sec.
[01:02] <sebsebseb> Jan|: ok so what else on your hard disk?
[01:02] <ScottG489> codeuser: "man hibernate"
[01:02] <ScottG489> codeuser: "This script is designed for Software Suspend 2, which is not yet included in the main kernel tree..."
[01:02] <codeuser> Jan|: stick in the livecd, choose the option that says biggest free space and install.
[01:02] <Jan|> sebsebseb a logical partition that is after the free space
[01:02] <TheEdge_> !mount
[01:02] <Flannel> jeeves: Sounds like a repository issue.  does `sudo apt-get update` give you any errors?
[01:02] <Nytrix> im download ubuntu 9.04...we'll see how that works out :)
[01:02] <sebsebseb> Jan|: ok you done that stuff with gparted?
[01:02] <codeuser> ScottG489: I've hibernated before with an unpatched kernel. Is your system up to date?
[01:02] <jeeves> Flannel, nope, she updates fine
[01:02] <Flannel> Nytrix: Jaunty support/questions in #ubuntu+1, thanks
[01:02] <Nytrix> yes sir, sir
[01:02] <jeeves> and our policy command comes back with none, none, and version table blank
[01:02] <Jan|> sebsebseb no just deleted an old windows primary partition
[01:03] <equex> anyone knows how to get xrdp working in intrepid ? i am using xubuntu/vinagre as client. i did the only thing i could find on the issue, ln -s /usr/share/fonts/X11 /usr/share/X11/fonts and put in dbus-launch gnome-session in startwm.sh... any ideas ?
[01:03] <sebsebseb> Jan|: ok so what else is on your hard disk?
[01:03] <tom_eats_lives> Anyone recommend tools for filming Desktop , for youtube?
[01:03] <equex> i keep getting a black screen, but the connection lives.
[01:03] <Travis-42> does anyone have any recent experience using an iphone 3g with ubuntu?  I mostly want to know if it would be possible for me to transfer music to it.
[01:03] <Flannel> !screencast | tom_eats_lives
[01:03] <ScottG489> codeuser: yes. and i have hibernated as well. but im not sure i was using toxonice
[01:03] <bruce89> Nytrix: heh
[01:03] <Jan|> sebsebseb a logical partition
[01:03] <SpyKid> Hi.. are there someone there have an answer for this.. evertime i try to write " http://repository.cairo-dock.org/ubuntu intrepid cairo-dock " in Terminal then it says " bash: deb: command not found "
[01:03] <sebsebseb> Jan|: no swap space or what not yet?
[01:03] <Nytrix> tom_eats_lives, check out www.getdeb.net some nice tools there :)
[01:03] <Flannel> jeeves: Then (if it does give no errors for updates) then that means you're sources are funny.
[01:04] <tom_eats_lives> Flannel, Thanks have a good evening =)
[01:04] <sebsebseb> Jan|:  are you on the Live CD?
[01:04] <Jan|> sebsebseb just 2 logical NTFS partions
[01:04] <funkyHat> Is there a way I could get a program to check whether a project exists on Launchpad? (for a bazaar helper script I'm writing)
[01:04] <Jan|> no
[01:04] <jeeves> Flannel, ok, I'll try swapping the source
[01:04] <sebsebseb> Jan|: you need to be on the Live CD to install Ubuntu
[01:04] <tom_eats_lives> Nytrix, thanks
[01:04] <Jan|> sebsebseb I had 2 OS installed on seperated drives
[01:04] <Nytrix> tom_ np
[01:04] <codeuser> ScottG489: try it without tuxonice
[01:04] <Flannel> jeeves: Just check it to see if you have normal looking sources
[01:04] <sebsebseb> Jan|: what OS are you using right now?
[01:04] <codeuser> ScottG489: ?
[01:04] <Jan|> sebsebseb windows
[01:04] <SpyKid> Hi.. are there someone there have an answer for this.. everytime i try to write " http://repository.cairo-dock.org/ubuntu intrepid cairo-dock " in Terminal then it says " bash: deb: command not found "
[01:04] <jeeves> Flannel, I'll try to pull from the U of Watterloo
[01:05] <sebsebseb> Jan|: ok to put Ubuntu on your hard disk,  you must boot the Ubuntu Live CD
[01:05] <codeuser> SpyKid: Why are you typing that?
[01:05] <sebsebseb> Jan|: that is to put it on for real using partitions
[01:05] <ScottG489> codeuser: ugh i dont know....i cant follow all these hibernate tecniques...
[01:05] <TheEdge_> i was asking for help about mount an iso file.. and someone type !mount  but when i try to use that command i am getting  mount point does not exist
[01:05] <SpyKid> codeuser:  Why ? cause i need some help :)
[01:05] <armence> Is there a laptop manufacturer that pre-installs ubuntu (and therefore I assume whose whole system is compatible with ubuntu)
[01:05] <Jan|> sebsebseb ok so then just do like the other guy said and use biggest free space ?
[01:05] <codeuser> SpyKid: no, why are you typing that address on the terminal.
[01:05] <sebsebseb> armence: of course so where are you from?
[01:06] <sebsebseb> Jan|: pm me
[01:06] <SpyKid> codeuser:  It says in this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CairoDock
[01:06] <moDumass> hey all, im trying to use proxychains, and tor, on my eeepc, ive got tor working i think like if i turn it on and check my IP its somewhere in kazicstahn, but i cant get proxychains to work for things like skype
[01:06] <codeuser> ScottG489: lol, maybe you should backup and reinstall. Then you could have a fresh start! (I save off my packages installed list and backup my home folder then reinstall! Always refreshing.)
[01:06] <moDumass> any ideas>? google is not being my friend on this one
[01:06] <SpyKid> codeuser:  im trying to install the Cairo Dock, but having major troubles.. :/
[01:07] <bruce89> just as well
[01:07] <codeuser> SpyKid: Go to terminal and type this with no quotes. "sudo apt-get install cairo-dock"
[01:07] <codeuser> SpyKid: that will get you what you want.
[01:07] <armence> sebsebseb: I am from having a Toshiba and just finding out how wrong I was to ever purchase that piece of crap
[01:07] <SpyKid> codeuser: alright ill try that
[01:07] <codeuser> armence: Toshibas... are good? I am pretty sure...
[01:08] <Nytrix> armence, lol
[01:08] <moDumass> i think its that i have no "proxies" in my chain
[01:08] <sebsebseb> armence: ok  USA and Canada only  http://www.system76.com   Europe and what not as well :)  http://www.zareason.com and I think Dell is pretty much global  for Ubuntu computers so http://www.ubuntu.com/dell
[01:08] <SpyKid> codeuser: Hmm .. it have installed it, but i cant find it in Accessories.
[01:09] <armence> sodeuser: I just found out my freezing problem is actually a common problem with their laptops which they are quite happy to sell to us without feeling like they should fix it...
[01:09] <register> i dont really like dell
[01:09] <armence> sebsebseb: thanks
[01:09] <dotblank> torify = win
[01:09] <codeuser> SpyKid: type cairo-dock in the terminal
[01:09] <armence> codeuser: I called you sodeuser for some reason...
[01:09] <sebsebseb> armence: what's wrong with the lap top your on now? wireless wont' work or something with Ubuntu?
[01:09] <jeeves> Flannel, ok, 3 diff repos, and it's still not working
[01:10] <codeuser> armence: lol
[01:10] <sebsebseb> armence:  http://www.dell.com/ubuntu I meant to put
[01:10] <Nytrix> wtf
[01:10] <Flannel> jeeves: pastebin your sources.list (and the output of the update) and Ill take a look
[01:10] <Cream> !exploit
[01:11] <linxeh> orang_kampung: I dont want your DCC send...
[01:11] <jeeves> Flannel, I can't, I'm on my laptop and it's a diff system
[01:11] <armence> sebsebseb: No. Nothing works... at all. As in like, I log on and 5 minutes later, my mouse freezes, my keyboard freezes and it restarts... It is to put it politely f...ing annoying...
[01:12] <SpyKid> codeuser: I have done that, but now it says warning :  (cairo-dock-config.c:cairo_dock_get_boolean_key_value:183)
[01:12] <SpyKid>   Attention : Key file does not have key 'mix applets with launchers'
[01:12] <SpyKid> warning :  (cairo-dock-config.c:cairo_dock_get_string_key_value:312)
[01:12] <SpyKid>   Attention : Key file does not have key 'active indicator'
[01:12] <SpyKid> warning :  (cairo-dock.c:main:599)
[01:12] <SpyKid>   Attention : No such file or directory
[01:12] <Flannel> jeeves: You can still pastebin it (the other sys is connected, yes?) and then the URL is relatively short.
[01:12] <sebsebseb> yeah what's a DCC chat??????
[01:12] <codeuser> SpyKid: Have you used Gnome Do before/
[01:12] <codeuser> SpyKid: ?*
[01:13] <SpyKid> codeuser: I dont think so, whats that ?
[01:13] <Nytrix> !paste | skykid
[01:14] <codeuser> SpyKid: It lets you launch anything with ease. You hit a shortcut then type what you want to run. It is in the repositories. Go to Applications -> Add/Remove. Then install gnome-do.
[01:14] <sebsebseb> Jan|: not sure what DCC chat was
[01:14] <sebsebseb> Jan|: why did you start one of those instead of a normal?
[01:15] <LjL> I'll now remove some people from the channel, these people should follow the instructions they find in the channel they'll join to fix a problem they have with their router.
[01:15] <LjL> Unaffected users - please ignore the issue
[01:15] <SpyKid> codeuser: okay i try that, thanks
[01:16] <Nytrix> lol
[01:16] <LordFDisk> Is there a list of what router has the bug?
[01:16] <IndyGunFreak> lol, go LjL go
[01:17] <SpyKid> codeuser: in Add/Remove i have wrote in the searchbox "Gnome-do, but it cant find anything.
[01:17] <codeuser> SpyKid: Btw, what version of ubuntu are you using
[01:17] <killuats> hi all, i've installed ubuntu 8.04, if i apt-get upgrade, it all goes well, does it mean, im already using 8.10?
[01:17] <bruce89> SpyKid: AFAIK, the package is simply do
[01:17] <SpyKid> codeuser: im using 8.10 ubuntu
[01:17] <Jan|> LjL how can you know what router people uses
[01:17] <codeuser> SpyKid: and in Add/Remove it is GNOME Do
[01:17] <bruce89> or not
[01:17] <Jan|> thats bs
[01:18] <Nytrix> SkyKid, under "Show:" select All available application...
[01:18] <SpyKid> bruce89:  What do you mean with AFAIK :) ?
[01:18] <temporarytao> killuats, no, you only upgraded packages with updates
[01:18] <LjL> Jan|: i said please ignore the issue
[01:18] <bruce89> As Far As I Know (which was wrong)
[01:18] <unr3a1> hey all, I have a friend who is having problems installing ubuntu.  he is getting "Error 17" when trying to load the grub bootloader
[01:18] <codeuser> unr
[01:18] <Jan|> LjL just wondering how its workin
[01:18] <killuats> temporarytao, whats the difference between 8.04 and 8.10?
[01:18] <codeuser> unr3a1: did he install it to an external drive?
[01:18] <SpyKid> Nytrix:  Ohh thanks !
[01:18] <killuats> how do i upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10 via shell?
[01:18] <codeuser> killuats: what's the diff between xp and vista?
[01:18] <SpyKid> codeuser:  Yes i have found it , i install it now
[01:18] <Jan|> rather, why you are kicking them, but whatever
[01:19] <unr3a1> codeuser: no, this is an internal drive on a laptop
[01:19] <killuats> codeuser, thanks.
[01:19] <bruce89> killuats: do-release-upgrade
[01:19] <Jan|> i guess they were clones?
[01:19] <killuats> bruce89, ah ok. i'll try that.
[01:19] <temporarytao> killuats, 8.04 is LTS, 8.10 is not. if you're looking for a more robust system, well supported system > 8.04
[01:19] <moDumass> hey all, any idea how to use proxychains? i think its that i need a list of proxies.... where would they be in this big wide AO
[01:20] <datuk> rtre
[01:20] <codeuser> moDumass: why do you need a proxy chain?
[01:20] <temporarytao> killuats, if you want something more on the "latest edge" > 8.10 (but that will be moot once jaunty comes out)
[01:20] <Nytrix> great ubuntu tools found here: www.GetDeb.net
[01:20] <moDumass> codeuser, because i want to use proxychains
[01:20] <SpyKid> codeuser:  Now i got that installed, so what should i do now ( and thank you so much cause you are helping me ! )
[01:20] <bruce89> Nytrix: ich
[01:21]  * _VIM_ agrees with bruce89
[01:21] <codeuser> SpyKid: Go to accesories -> gnome do
[01:21] <codeuser> SpyKid: then a window will appear
[01:21] <SpyKid> codeuser:  yes im there
[01:21] <killuats> temporarytao, ah ok, so its better to stay 8.04, just upgrade my packages.
[01:21] <codeuser> SpyKid: Then at the top right of it you have an arrow
[01:21] <SpyKid> codeuser:  yes
[01:21] <codeuser> SpyKid: Click it to go to preferences
[01:21] <SpyKid> codeuser: ok
[01:21] <codeuser> SpyKid: There you can configure it like you want, but press windows key and space bar will bring it up
[01:21] <temporarytao> killuats, depends on what you need, really
[01:22] <codeuser> SpyKid: Then type in what you want.
[01:22] <unr3a1> codeuser: so do you have any other information>
[01:22] <ring0> codeuser: i installed the 64bit over the 32bit version and unistalled it. the program is now gone. thanks for the idea
[01:22] <moDumass> codeuser, i mean im using tor, and skype, and ide like to skype anonymously, using proxychains, and sudo proxychains skype fails to connect
[01:22] <temporarytao> killuats, for me, i use 8.04 for my gateway server and 8.10 for my everyday-use laptop
[01:22] <Nytrix> Skyk, what is it that u want to do?
[01:22] <killuats> temporarytao, just to make sure, how do i check if im using 8.04 or 8.10?
[01:22] <Nytrix> SkyK, what is it that u want to do exactly?
[01:23] <SpyKid> codeuser: Hm ... yes, and what shall i use it for ?
[01:23]  * bruce89 finds Jaunty stable enough (apart from the rubbish notification debacle)
[01:23] <bruce89> killuats: lsb_release -a
[01:23] <Nytrix> debacle?
[01:23] <codeuser> SpyKid: launching stuff, no need for a dock
[01:23] <Nytrix> lol@ LjL
[01:23] <killuats> bruce89, thanks.
[01:23] <bruce89> Nytrix: see #ubuntu+1
[01:23] <SpyKid> codeuser: ohh okay, thanks for your help
[01:24] <BigMike> how can I get skype and firefox to stop auto starting
[01:24] <codeuser> SpyKid: I haven't used cairo in a long time, so i don't remember it.
[01:24] <Nytrix> way to go LJL
[01:24] <bruce89> auto-starting?
[01:24] <temporarytao> killuats, simplest method: go to System > About Ubuntu
[01:24] <_VIM_> BigMike: are they listed in System > preferences > Sessions?
[01:24] <bruce89> or gnome-system-monitor
[01:25] <codeuser> unr3a1: maybe this would help: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=442945
[01:25] <bruce89> codeuser: cairo is something completely different
[01:25] <killuats> when's the next release of ubuntu?
[01:25] <codeuser> bruce89: I know very well that. But, the idea came from Docky (if you bother to upgrade gnome do). But, gnome-do is very useful.
[01:26] <_VIM_> next month
[01:26] <temporarytao> killuats, april 20+
[01:26] <Dreamglider> usually in april
[01:26] <codeuser> killuats: in 47 days.
[01:26] <temporarytao> ...i think
[01:26] <bruce89> codeuser: I'm a pedant
[01:26] <BigMike> they start up every time I start up ubuntu - no they are not and they arnt in the start up folder I had some damage I had to remount my ntfs drives
[01:26] <killuats> wah!!! great
[01:26] <temporarytao> codeuser, awesome accuracy
[01:26] <register> test
[01:26] <daftykins> is it normal for Xorg to take 30-45% of a core on a quad-core PC, when running nvidia -177 drivers and compiz?
[01:26] <BigMike> oh is there a startup folder?
[01:26] <temporarytao> best to do a fresh install than an upgrade, by the way
[01:26] <temporarytao> ...based on my experience
[01:27]  * bruce89 doesn't understand docks or gnome-do
[01:27] <Iceman_B^Ltop> how do I make the mv, cp and rm commands always use the -v switch by default ?
[01:27] <Dreamglider> is the next one 9.04 ?
[01:27] <_VIM_> yes
[01:27] <Dreamglider> Ok
[01:27] <daftykins> yeah anyone that's worth their salt in computing knows "upgrade" == bad word
[01:27] <bruce89> !alias
[01:27] <codeuser> temporarytao: lol, np.
[01:27] <codeuser> daftykins: not really... ubuntu upgrades work well.
[01:27] <Jan|> daftykins why don't you upgrade
[01:27] <JesperHansen> I am looking for the debugging symbols for firefox3 in ubuntu 8.10 (the package firefox-dbg), but it doesn't exist. Taking it from this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Bugs#Obtain%20a%20backtrace%20from%20an%20apport%20crash%20report%20(using%20gdb)
[01:28] <Jan|> daftykins you should upgrade
[01:28] <daftykins> lol
[01:28] <daftykins> no thanks.
[01:28] <daftykins> upgrades are baaaad.
[01:28] <BigMike> VIM is there some startup folder config I can edit
[01:28] <Q751> where can  g for some very quck off topic tech help?
[01:28] <Q751> I go*
[01:28]  * Loco_aullador se va a ver a Bruce Springsteen el 30 de julio a Benidorm
[01:28] <bruce89> only if you have a load of non-official packages which are made badly
[01:28]  * Loco_aullador se va a ver a Bruce Springsteen el 30 de julio a Benidorm
[01:28] <bruce89> getdeb spings to mind
[01:29] <Nytrix> Q751, join #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:29] <Pici> Q751: #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:29] <Q751> thanks gys
[01:29] <Nytrix> :)
[01:29] <Q751> sorry bout my missed keys. My keyboard's messed up
[01:29] <bruce89> no law against that
[01:29] <bruce89> yet
[01:29] <codeuser> Loco_aullador: Nadie habla eso lingua aqui.
[01:30] <Nytrix> Q751, np
[01:30] <temporarytao> BigMike, you might want to try System > Preferences > Sessions
[01:30] <daftykins> is it normal for Xorg to take 30-45% of a core on a quad-core PC, when running nvidia -177 drivers and compiz?
[01:30] <_VIM_> BigMike: I think there's a few of them /home/BigMike/.config maybe, also some under .gnome and .kde folders and several others
[01:31] <BigMike> yes I didt temporarytao nothing there my system had some damage as fsck informed me
[01:31] <temporarytao> BigMike, if you didn't specifically set your apps to autostart, then you might have "automatically remember...." checked
[01:31] <codeuser> daftykins: i don't think so.
[01:31] <daftykins> mmm neither do i.
[01:31] <codeuser> daftykins: you could upgrade... lol
[01:31] <daftykins> shush :P
[01:31] <BigMike> i have unchecked save sessions is that something diff?
[01:31] <codeuser> daftykins: lol
[01:31] <kindofabuzz> !jaunty > kindofabuzz
[01:31] <datuk> hello all....
[01:32] <datuk> i'm student from indonesia..
[01:32] <codeuser> hello
[01:32] <sebsebseb> hi
[01:32] <Jan|> !mount
[01:32] <datuk> now i use ubuntu..
[01:32] <theriel> hi all :)  i was wondering if there's any way to control which letters are matched together in word wrap?
[01:32] <sebsebseb> ok
[01:33] <BigMike> no I unchecked that also temporarytao
[01:33] <sebsebseb> datuk: ok and?
[01:33] <kindofabuzz> how can i disable the check for a hibernate/standby image in swap at bootup?
[01:33] <datuk> but i can't operation terminal well..
[01:33] <codeuser> theriel: don't think so.
[01:33] <sebsebseb> datuk: oh right ok
[01:33] <theriel> fuck.  everything i type in keeps breaking words at awkward spots
[01:33] <codeuser> datuk: ok, so what can we help you with?
[01:33] <theriel> i can put in a forced linbreak before the word but that's a temporary work around
[01:33] <BigMike> is there some config file I can look at or edit temporarytao
[01:34] <datuk> can you tell me or give me tutorial console (terminal) ?
[01:34] <BigMike> ok thanks VIM I see that now
[01:34] <prince_jammys> !shell > datuk
[01:34] <theriel> in khoisan languaes, they have four letters which are non-standard latin letters.. ! | ǁ and ǂ
[01:34] <rapchee> hi
[01:34] <codeuser> datuk: there isn't much to explain. You type a command, it runs it.
[01:34] <theriel> if i type a word |ka and it's at the end of a line, it breaks the word as | and ka
[01:34] <sebsebseb> rapchee: hi
[01:34] <temporarytao> BigMike, you might want to check your cron folders. sorry but i'm not very well-versed with cron
[01:34] <theriel> i want it to not do that
[01:35] <kindofabuzz> datuk, http://www.hypexr.org/bash_tutorial.php
[01:35] <Until_It_Sleeps> I iz free from the dcc exploit!
[01:35] <BigMike> chron ok under /home/mike I guess?
[01:35] <codeuser> theriel: Is your system localized to a khosian language?
[01:36] <Guest40018> Hi are there someone there have some time to help me, im having trouble with get Cairo-dock to work
[01:36] <codeuser> Until_It_Sleeps: Hip Hip Hooray!
[01:36] <theriel> there are no localizations for khoisan languages
[01:36] <temporarytao> BigMike, i'm not sure. best to do "locate cron" and then figure things out from there...:)
[01:36] <codeuser> thereil: really?
[01:36] <_VIM_> Guest40018: what's the error message or whatnot?
[01:36] <codeuser> theriel: really? I thought there were for most languages...
[01:36] <rapchee> i have a kinda outdated problem: i try to upgrade a feisty machine to gutsy, but the upgrade manager says it had an 'unresolvable problem while calculating the upgrade'
[01:37] <rapchee> i think its because no repos have feisty anymore
[01:37] <Iceman_B^Ltop> hey people, how do I make the mv, cp and rm commands always use the -v switch by default ?
[01:37] <proq> can someone point me to a (recent) partitioning howto for OS X and Ubuntu?  or tell me whether I just do the traditional approach of making one 800KB bootloader, one 4GB Swap, one ubuntu and one OS X partition?
[01:37] <sebsebseb> rapchee: I would suggest clean installing, because you got to upgrade like this:   fesity to next one,  and then that one to the next one,
[01:37] <theriel> yeah.  nama is the only official language, the rest of them are minority languages.  and i don't see nama having any localization.
[01:37] <Guest40018> _VIM_:  Thanks to for giving you time to help.. but it comes up with something like this " warning :  (cairo-dock-application-factory.c:cairo_dock_create_surface_from_xpixmap:123)
[01:37] <Guest40018>   This pixmap is undefined. It can happen for exemple for a window that is in a minimized state when the dock is launching.
[01:37] <Guest40018> new backing pixmap (bis) : 134217734
[01:37] <Guest40018> window pixmap : 1230x600
[01:37] <Guest40018> window pixmap : 1230x600
[01:37] <FloodBot3> Guest40018: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:37] <KenBW22> http://www.nomorepasting.com/getpaste.php?pasteid=24778 <-- is there anything wrong with that?
[01:37] <codeuser> Iceman_B^Ltop: edit your .profile file in your home directory.
[01:37] <codeuser> Iceman_B^Ltop: in the section dealing with aliases
[01:38] <sebsebseb> rapchee: Gutsy I think is no longer suppourted as well
[01:38] <rapchee> sebsebseb: unfortunately i cannot do that because i  have a special system set up and it would be pretty difficult to set it up again
[01:38] <codeuser> Iceman_B^Ltop: add a line alias mv="mv -v"
[01:38] <theriel> codeuser, any thoughts?
[01:38] <rapchee> aw shite XI
[01:38] <tom_eats_lives> need help debugging random xorg crashes , here /var/Log/Xorg.0.log  http://pastebin.com/m62b19835
[01:38] <moDumass> !proxychains
[01:38] <Iceman_B^Ltop> ah, thanks codeuser, I'll try that
[01:38] <sebsebseb> rapchee: what kind of special system?
[01:38] <theriel> on controlling word wraps
[01:38] <KenBW22> http://www.nomorepasting.com/getpaste.php?pasteid=24778 <-- is there anything wrong with that crontab?
[01:38] <codeuser> theriel: Not really...
[01:38] <theriel> damn.  that's the answer i've gotten from everyone.
[01:38] <theriel> i've posted in a few forums with no responses, either.
[01:38] <codeuser> theriel: I speak english and spanish and live in the united states. I don't know enough about your region to help.
[01:39] <rapchee> sebsebseb: a raster image processing-imagesetting system
[01:39] <theriel> i'm american, code.  but i'm a linguist.. i type khoisan languages
[01:39] <_VIM_> Guest40018: hmm there's a few switches you could try, -g being the one I use, so type cairo-dock -g   in a terminal, but other than that I've never seen that error, maybe someone created a bug report for it already
[01:39] <codeuser> theriel: then you hopefully understand why I am unable to help you! lol.
[01:39] <theriel> all i really need to do is somehow add ! | ǁ and ǂ as recognized letters
[01:39] <scatterp> ps3 ubuntu 8.10 how do i start sshd ?
[01:39] <Guest40018> _VIM_: i have you seen that error before ?
[01:39] <theriel> so that they don't split the words
[01:40] <_VIM_> Guest40018: nope
[01:40] <dess> hellop
[01:40] <rapchee> sebsebseb: i tried upgrading with alternate cd, i thought it would work XI
[01:40] <SimplySeth> how do I get apt-get -f install to stop tryin to make an initrd image ?
[01:40] <tom_eats_lives> need help debugging random xorg crashes , here /var/Log/Xorg.0.log  http://pastebin.com/m62b19835
[01:40] <Guest40018> _VIM_:  Alright thnaks , ill try that.
[01:40] <proq> to simplify my question, do I need to create a 800KB bootloader partition for a dual-boot os x and ubuntu 8.10 system, like you used to with older versions of ubuntu?
[01:40] <sebsebseb> rapchee: no you can't upgrade with a CD like that
[01:40] <_VIM_> Guest40018: try that or maybe the forums too http://ubuntuforums.org
[01:41] <sebsebseb> rapchee: just upgrade your install as normal
[01:41] <sebsebseb> !upgrade
[01:41] <theriel> code: where would you suggest i ask?
[01:41] <Iceman_B^Ltop> codeuser: I see no section dealing with "aliases" in my .profile
[01:41] <theriel> OO forum, OO channel, and here have given me no luck so far.
[01:41] <Iceman_B^Ltop> it does refer to 2 other files hoewver
[01:41] <codeuser> theriel: try making a post on the ubuntu forums.
[01:41] <Guest40018> _VIM_:  Okay, but thanks for your help anyway !
[01:41] <daftykins> tom_eats_lives, looks like you have intel gfx but are running vesa driver
[01:41] <Iceman_B^Ltop> says here:  This file is not read by bash(1), if ~/.bash_profile or ~/.bash_login exists
[01:41] <codeuser> Iceman_B^Ltop: sorry.
[01:42] <codeuser> Iceman_B^Ltop: your .bashrc
[01:42] <ghang> hi everyone, i bought a UMPC call Wibrain I1, and i try to install ubuntu on it with wubi.exe, but fail , when after install and restart the computer into DOS mode , it directly computer poweroff , why ? is the factory setting not allow user to use DOS mode or the ATOM processor cannot install Unbuntu with this way ?
[01:42] <prince_jammys> Iceman_B^Ltop: put aliases in your .bashrc
[01:42] <Iceman_B^Ltop> oh, right
[01:42] <rapchee> sebsebseb:  ...  or by using the alternate install CDs of the upgrade version...
[01:42] <tom_eats_lives> daftykins, how i remove vesa and install intel gfx
[01:42] <sebsebseb> ghang: ok wubi is  not that good a way to insatll  Ubuntu, and it seems you have some computer issues
[01:42] <sebsebseb> ghang: have you tried a Ubuntu Live CD on there?
[01:42] <daftykins> tom_eats_lives, what ubuntu are you running?
[01:43] <tom_eats_lives> daftykins, 8.10
[01:43] <daftykins> tom_eats_lives, so after install it crashes X frequently with just default install?
[01:43] <sebsebseb> ghang: is that a old computer you bought?  and DOS mode????????   do you mean recovery mode in Windows?
[01:43] <Guest40018> _VIM_:  Hey again, when i wrote what you said in terminal, it said this " Attention : Cairo-Dock was not compiled with glit "
[01:44] <Iceman_B^Ltop> where do I insert it? just anywhere in the file, as long as its uncommented?
[01:44] <Guest40018> _VIM_:  Still not making any sence :/ ?
[01:44] <kindofabuzz> i have two machines on the network i want to ssh into remotely. is it possilbe to ssh into one and then from that one ssh into the other?
[01:44] <KenBW22> ./crontab: line 2: */1: No such file or directory <-- what's wrong?
[01:44] <tom_eats_lives> daftykins, not sure sorry
[01:44] <kindofabuzz> well yeah i guess it is, dumb question
[01:44] <unr3a1> codeuser: here is his menu.lst:  http://rafb.net/p/FHrCpC31.html
[01:44] <sebsebseb> kindofabuzz: I guess so or you can do something similar
[01:44] <ghang> sebsebseb , hi , no , i bought a very cute UMPC , is a very very mini computer , palm computer , and didnt have cdrom/dvdrom
[01:44] <sebsebseb> !ssh
[01:44] <jrib> KenBW22: erm, what are you doing?
[01:45] <sebsebseb> ghang: which OS is on it?
[01:45] <ghang> UMPC with a full windows XP
[01:45] <sebsebseb> ghang: ok a netbook?
[01:45] <KenBW22> jrib: trying to make a crontab
[01:45] <jrib> KenBW22: you ran "./crontab"?
[01:45] <KenBW22> jrib: yea
[01:45] <kindofabuzz> sebastien, reason being, i don't want to port forward to both maines. so i figure i can just ssh into one then into the other from that session
[01:45] <unr3a1> codeuser: do you see anything wrong with his menu.lst?
[01:45] <ghang> oh... similar ,since it was also using atom processor
[01:45] <jrib> KenBW22: why?
[01:45] <codeuser> let me look
[01:45] <KenBW22> jrib: i have a file crontab in ~/
[01:45] <jrib> KenBW22: you want just "crontab"
[01:45] <ghang> sebsebseb:  oh... similar ,since it was also using atom processor
[01:45] <tom_eats_lives> daftykins, Its been a long time it been doing it , never happened in 8.04
[01:45] <sebsebseb> ghang: you went into DOS mode and the computer turns off???????
[01:45] <jrib> KenBW22: sorry.  "crontab -e"
[01:45] <bruce89> crontab -e
[01:46] <daftykins> tom_eats_lives, did you install fresh or upgrade then?
[01:46] <BigMike> hi VIM I found a session /mike./gnome2/session file with RestartCommand=firefox
[01:46] <sebsebseb> ghang: how much  RAM?   1GB?
[01:46] <tom_eats_lives> daftykins, yes fully updated
[01:46] <sebsebseb> ghang: and the computer shoudn't just turn off ever, unless bad hardware
[01:46] <KenBW22> jrib: i'm following the instructions here: http://b.pengdeng.com/2008/12/simple-remote-control-with-dropbox.html
[01:46] <_VIM_> Guest40018: what version of ubuntu are you running? I think 8.04 had issues with that, and seems fixed in 8.10
[01:46] <eseven73> has anyone had the issue of remote desktop works in 8.10 but VNC just keeps disconnecting? every few seconds?
[01:46] <BigMike> do I delete that VIM or edit?
[01:46] <tom_eats_lives> daftykins, sorry misunderstood , i isntalled fresh
[01:46] <KenBW22> jrib: says to create a file crontab
[01:46] <codeuser> unr3a1: no, i don't. Why doesn't he reinstall. It would be a semi pain free solution for this I think.
[01:47] <unr3a1> codeuser: he has reinstalled
[01:47] <ghang> sebsebseb: never ~ even i install a Ghost it was also unable to run in DOS mode, i only can use the GHOST under windows, yes is RAM 1GB , thats why i think it was the factory set something to denine user to get into DOS mode
[01:47] <sebsebseb> eseven73: VNC should be tunneled over SSH,  or it's insecure.
[01:47] <unr3a1> codeuser:  it does the same thing over and over
[01:47] <codeuser> unr3a1: Um. Did you look at the link I gave you?
[01:47] <eseven73> it is tunneled
[01:47] <eseven73> i failed to mention that sorry
[01:47] <daftykins> tom_eats_lives,  you could try forcing the intel driver by adding a few lines to your /etc/X11/xorg.conf but i can't guarantee it'll work, can you pastebin the current content of that file?
[01:47] <jrib> KenBW22: doesn't say "./crontab" anywhere
[01:47] <_VIM_> BigMike: i'd makea backup of that first, but i dont see the harm in that really
[01:47] <sebsebseb> ghang: ok  you got some problems with your lap top.  it's hardware or windows issues.   that would be why wubi didn't work either.  if you can get those issues sorted out try a Ubuntu Live CD after md5suming it and install from that
[01:47] <BigMike> ok try
[01:48] <BigMike> ty
[01:48] <sebsebseb> !md5sum
[01:48] <codeuser> !help
[01:48] <sebsebseb> ghang: Go to #windows  for help with  that
[01:48] <ghang> ok , thanks sebsebseb :D huhu
[01:48] <Guest40018> _VIM_:  Im running 8.10
[01:48] <ghang> i will try live cd
[01:48] <sebsebseb> ghang: no good putting Ubuntu on,  unless  you know the hardware is fine, and that Windows works good to
[01:48] <KenBW22> jrib: "then run crontab ~/.local/etc/crontab", although my fole is in ~/ rather than ~/.local/etc
[01:48] <unr3a1> codeuser: I did, but thats not what his issue is
[01:49] <jrib> KenBW22: sure, still no "./crontab" there
[01:49] <sebsebseb> ghang: you told me the computer just turned itself off?
[01:49] <_VIM_> Guest40018: ok what version on cairo do you have?
[01:49] <ghang> yeah
[01:49] <KenBW22> jrib: well ~/crontab gives me the same result
[01:49] <sebsebseb> ghang: a computer should never just turn itself off
[01:49] <tom_eats_lives> daftykins, http://pastebin.com/m3236f297 Xorg.cond
[01:49] <unr3a1> codeuser:  I think what the problem is that he was originally trying to install and run ubuntu without installing grub to the MBR.  so he was trying the alternatives over and over again
[01:49] <sebsebseb> ghang: that could mean your hardware is bad
[01:49] <sebsebseb> ghang: or it was just Windows being stupid
[01:49] <ghang> i will try to find out is it posible to get into DOS mode first
[01:50] <jrib> KenBW22: you aren't supposed to just run "~/crontab~"... read what it says
[01:50] <sebsebseb> ghang: yep ok well not here for that one, but yes #windows
[01:50] <codeuser> unr3a1: he needs grub, definitely.
[01:50] <unr3a1> codeuser: I personally think he fubarred his MBR, and it needs either windows to fix it first, or he needs to reformat first
[01:50] <subinacls> wondering if anyone has set up fwknop before ?
[01:50] <sebsebseb> ghang: and there's  #hardware
[01:50] <ghang> O_O ok
[01:50] <Guest40018> _VIM_:  Im not sure :/
[01:50] <unr3a1> codeuser: thats my personal opinion, but I was just wanting to make sure that there was nothing wrong with the menu.lst file.
[01:50] <ghang> sebsebseb: thank bro
[01:50] <daftykins> tom_eats_lives, ok are you comfortable logging in at tty1 to replace this file if this goes wrong? ^_^
[01:50] <codeuser> unr3a1: he could use the partition editor on the livecd to destroy all data on the hard drive and put a new mbr on it.
[01:50] <KenBW22> jrib: oh, running that file is to create the file?
[01:51] <KenBW22> jrib: command*
[01:51] <_VIM_> Guest40018: apt-cache policy cairo-dock
[01:51] <_VIM_> Pastebin it Guest40018
[01:51] <_VIM_> !pastebin | Guest40018
[01:51] <jrib> KenBW22: yes
[01:51] <sebsebseb> ghang: then later on when you download an Ubuntu ISO,  you sould md5sum it before burning to a CD
[01:51] <sebsebseb> !md5sum
[01:51] <tom_eats_lives> daftykins, yes
[01:51] <daftykins> tom_eats_lives, ok cool, make a backup to xorg.conf.old and then try this http://pastebin.com/d46321515
[01:51] <Guest40018> _VIM_:  What ? what is that ?
[01:52] <unr3a1> codeuser: yea... also, the other thing is that in order to get the menu.lst file, I obviously booted into the livecd to pull the file.  the really weird thing is thought that his video is all fubarred
[01:52] <daftykins> tom_eats_lives,  you can see i've added a line in the "Device" section
[01:52] <subinacls> fwknop SPA portknocking, anyone ever use this application
[01:52] <rapchee> sebsebseb: ooh goodie i've found the old-releases repo thanks for the head up
[01:52] <_VIM_> Guest40018: type this in a terminal apt-cache policy cairo-dock   copy that to paste.ubuntu.com and gimmie the URL
[01:52] <codeuser> unr3a1: is this an old laptop/desktop?
[01:52] <sebsebseb> rapchee: old releases repo,   releases.ubuntu.com ?????
[01:52] <SonofC4> hey where do i install a new font to?
[01:52] <bruce89> ~/.fonts
[01:52] <sebsebseb> !fonts
[01:52] <unr3a1> codeuser: there is no way for me to describe it except that the wallpaper alternates between white and black, and pieces of the menu go missing when you hover over them sometimes.
[01:53] <abode12> hi all
[01:53] <llllll> can not  add files to "*/usr/share/games/fretsonfir/data/songs"  it says im not the owner how can i change files inside of the share folder
[01:53] <abode12> someone talks english here ?
[01:53] <rapchee> sebsebseb: old-releases.ubuntu.com
[01:53] <unr3a1> codeuser: yea, its a dell inspiron 9300
[01:53] <rapchee> lol no
[01:53] <sebsebseb> abode12: no none of us talk English here
[01:53] <KenBW22> jrib: oh, thanks anyway
[01:53] <keithclark> I tried unetbootin to install a new o/s on a laptop and it did not work out so smooth!  I get root(hd14,19) Error 12:Invalid Device Requested
[01:53] <Guest40018> _VIM_: 2 sec
[01:53] <abode12> hmm
[01:53] <sebsebseb> abode12: we are all talking Chinese and some how you can understand us
[01:53] <abode12> u guys play unholylordseo ?
[01:53] <bruce89> does Scottish count?
[01:53] <rapchee> XD
[01:53] <codeuser> unr3a1: Have you tried Xubuntu/Debian/OpenSUSE to see if those work on it? This laptop seems beyond repair.
[01:54] <_VIM_> Guest40018: or easier, if its' lower than version 2, you need to get the new one me thinks
[01:54] <codeuser> unr3a1: for normal ubuntu that is..
[01:54] <sebsebseb> abode12: pm'ng me asking if people play some game, will make me assume your about 15 years of age
[01:54] <_VIM_> you're*
[01:54] <rapchee> sebsebseb: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades
[01:54] <unr3a1> codeuser:  no I havent.  and I dont think he has either... I bet his HDD is fubarred... the thing is that he had originally windows vista and xp dualbooted and had windows bootloader on the mbr
[01:54] <bruce89> _VIM_: thanks for pre-empting me
[01:54] <codeuser> sebsebseb: I'm 16, got a problem with young people? lol.
[01:55] <sebsebseb> rapchee: yep, but Gutsy is no longer suppourted to or nearly not suppourted, but Gutsy was nice yeah
[01:55] <Guest40018> _VIM_: Alright .. but 2 sec i went in in Package manager and i found some files there werent installed , so im just gonna try to install those :)
[01:55] <unr3a1> codeuser:  I wanna say that he altered his partitions using partition magic or something.... I think his HDD is fubar
[01:55] <sebsebseb> codeuser: no, but it's the really young ones that would do what he was doing.  I am 21 by the way
[01:55] <codeuser> unr3a1: yeah, well... idk.
[01:55] <SonofC4> thnxs Bruce89
[01:55] <_VIM_> Guest40018: take your time, I'm not going anywhere anytime soon.
[01:55] <rww> rapchee, sebsebseb: Gutsy is still supported. It EOLs in April.
[01:55] <codeuser> sebsebseb: ah.
[01:56] <abode12> riiiigh
[01:56] <abode12> t
[01:56] <Guest40018> _VIM_: Good :) !
[01:56] <sebsebseb> abode12: I do not appreciate  reciving swearing in pm either.  and normalely I really don't cre if people pm me however,  something to think about ask people  before pming them
[01:56] <sebsebseb> !pm
[01:56] <codeuser> unr3a1: try using the partition editor to make a new MBR before you totally throw the laptop down the drain.
[01:56] <unr3a1> codeuser: well, thank you for all the info... I much appreciate it.  I will just tell him that he should try formatting the whole disk and seeing if that works
[01:56] <tom_eats_lives> daftykins, ok done restart x ?
[01:56] <codeuser> unr3a1: ok.
[01:56] <bruce89> perhaps a ban would be in order?
[01:57] <_VIM_> ban for what? hah? what did I miss?
[01:57] <keithclark> Anywhere else I can go for unetbootin help?
[01:57] <daftykins> tom_eats_lives,  yep
[01:57] <bruce89> the PM swearer
[01:57] <register> anyone know how to get on the ubuntu team
[01:57] <killuats> hi guys,
[01:57] <actionshrimp> hey - the first user on my system creates files with ownership username:users, but all otehr users create files username:username. How can I change the first user to do the same? I've created a username group for the first user and added him to it, but creating/copying files still have 'users' group ownership
[01:57] <LjL> bruce89: what's going on?
[01:58] <unr3a1> codeuser: thank you again for all the help
[01:58] <sebsebseb> codeuser:  what a knob that guy, you will see what I mean if I pm  you his pm's
[01:58] <codeuser> sebsebseb: no need! lol, i believe you.
[01:58] <bruce89> sebsebseb: I could do with a laugh
[01:58] <red_star_> can i have help now?
[01:58] <Until_It_Sleeps> what now?
[01:58] <killuats> im using 8.04, currently theres a volume controle on my taskbar, but when i play my mp3 or movie, i doesn't produce any sound. how do i fix this?
[01:58] <codeuser> red_star_: with what
[01:58] <Stylee> anyone here has fake raid0?
[01:59] <codeuser> killuats: You upgraded?!?!? awesome!
[01:59] <red_star_> with my installation cd
[01:59] <killuats> codeuser, yup. :)
[01:59] <codeuser> killuats: double click it. make sure pcm is up.
[01:59] <sebsebseb> !ask |  red_star
[01:59] <red_star_> i dloaded it long ago, but it appears that i can install it only if theres only 1 partition on my hdd
[01:59] <Until_It_Sleeps> Who is this "Pm swearer?"
[01:59] <red_star_> its 8.10
[01:59] <actionshrimp> any ideas anyone?
[01:59] <sebsebseb> Until_It_Sleeps: a guy that just left
[02:00] <killuats> codeuser, its up. but still no sound.
[02:00] <unr3a1> red_star_: question... what happens if you try to dual or triple boot between other OSes?
[02:00] <bruce89> Until_It_Sleeps: told people to go to some game, then swore at them for not
[02:00] <peng__> hello
[02:00] <codeuser> killuats: and the master and front are up ass wel
[02:00] <red_star_> if there are other partitions, containing boot files (ms windows) it doesnt manage to install ubuntu
[02:00] <codeuser> as*
[02:00] <unr3a1> red_star_:  if you have tried
[02:00] <codeuser> killuats: as well*
[02:00] <red_star_> theres no problem with boot managers/grub
[02:01] <red_star_> but with the installation progres
[02:01] <unr3a1> red_star_:  lol... ok... just making sure
[02:01] <killuats> codeuser, yes, its up also
[02:01] <sebsebseb> Until_It_Sleeps: see my PM
[02:01] <codeuser> killuats: what kind of laptop/desktop do you have
[02:01] <red_star_> when i task partitions and formatting it starts with the task: Creating ext3 file system on partition xyz", and that operation never completes
[02:01] <killuats> codeuser, its a ecs laptop, before i upgraded, its working fine.
[02:01] <actionshrimp> how can I change a user's "Main group" from the command line?
[02:02] <codeuser> killuats: did you apply any patches to get sound working (when you installed the old ubuntu)
[02:02] <prince_jammys> actionshrimp: man usermod
[02:02] <red_star_> however if i use the entire disk as a single partition theres no problems and it installs properly
[02:03] <killuats> codeuser, cant remember. how do i check the name of my sound card?
[02:03] <actionshrimp> prince_jammys: I'm a bit wary of the usermod command, last time I used it to add myself to a group I accidently removed myself from the admin group
[02:03] <red_star_> how about now?
[02:03] <red_star_> :)
[02:04] <codeuser> killuats: it should be in lspci somewhere (run lspci in a terminal)
[02:04] <eseven73> Ok Remote Desktop works (the one that ubuntu has) AND Freenx's, but VNC (Tunneled) keeps getting disconnected every 3 or so seconds, any ideas (Ubuntu 8.10 on both boxes)
[02:04] <killuats> codeuser, k, i'll check.
[02:04] <red_star_> ...
[02:05] <keithclark> Anyone with unetbootin experience here?
[02:05] <bruce89> !repeat | red_star_
[02:05] <Guest40018> _VIM_: im trying to install another version, :)
[02:05] <killuats> codeuser, its an ac'97 soundcard. how do i
[02:05] <killuats> \
[02:05] <killuats> codeuser, its an ac'97 soundcard. how do i check if its installed correctly?
[02:06] <codeuser> killuats: looking, hold a moment.
[02:06] <_VIM_> Guest40018: ok, yeah try to get version 2, its on the !PPA site
[02:06] <_VIM_> !PPA
[02:06] <killuats> codeuser, thanks
[02:06] <prince_jammys> actionshrimp: sounds like you're in a bind ... usermod -g probably does what you want
[02:07] <actionshrimp> prince_jammys: yeah I gritted my teeth and went for it and it worked, thanks a lot. I think i used -G last time which is a bit more dangerous
[02:07] <codeuser> killuats: is there a physical button/wheel for controlling sound?
[02:07] <Guest40018> _VIM_: Alright :)
[02:08] <red_star_> when i task partitions and formatting it starts with the task: Creating ext3 file system on partition xyz", and that operation never completes
[02:08] <killuats> codeuser, theres one
[02:09] <codeuser> killuats: is it up/on?
[02:09] <killuats> codeuser, yes, its up and on.
[02:09] <AAA28> hi can anyone tell me the best program for rapidshare for ubuntu like autodownloader so that way i can dowload multiple files at ones
[02:10] <codeuser> killuats: what kind of ECS laptop?
[02:10] <bruce89> AAA28: rather pointless, browsers can do that anyway
[02:10] <Stylee> I have a problem.... dmraid recognises my fakeraid0 as it should.... but then ubiquity show it as half of it (or as a size of a single disk)
[02:10] <killuats> codeuser, ecs w622
[02:11] <AAA28> how bruce89?
[02:11] <Guest40018> _VIM_: How do i install it ? its a "tar.bz2"  file
[02:11] <NeoTubNinja> red_star_: have you tried re-downloading the ISO from the ubuntu site and burning it to another CD?
[02:11] <yesyes> i've got quite a few linux-images in the local or obsolete section of synaptic. reckon i can remove them without that ruining my system?
[02:12] <rww> yesyes: you should be fine removing all of them except the latest one (highest version) and the one you're running (check in uname -a).
[02:12] <BigMike> thanks VIM et al  that worked
[02:12] <yesyes> 613mb worth of images and modules, to be exact.
[02:12] <codeuser> killuats: there seems to be no such laptop!! Sound usually isn't a problem. Open up the sound controller and make sure it is selecting ALSA
[02:12] <red_star_> neotubninja, no, but i checked cd for errors on startup boot screen and it reported no errors, however i managed to install it on a single partition using the entire disk
[02:12] <AAA28> bruce89 can i do it so that way i don't have to wait for like 15 minutes
[02:12] <yesyes> rww, thanks.
[02:13] <bruce89> you can't make your connection any faster
[02:13] <_VIM_> Guest40018: if you got it from the ppa site it shouldn't be a tar.bz2, tar jxvf <filename.tar.bz2>
[02:14] <yesyes> and the headers?
[02:14] <rww> yesyes: yeah. same thing for the headers, restricted modules, etc.
[02:14] <killuats> codeuser, yes, this laptop seems not visible on google... :(
[02:14] <nellmathew> anyone know of any alternatives to PCSX2 (PS2 emulator) for ubuntu?
[02:14] <Philo06> For some reason su is not accepting my password, is there a way to change it?
[02:14] <Guest40018> _VIM_: There was some guy in a foorum there wrote if i used AMD 64 then it would be that version i should use, so i just downloaded that..
[02:14] <subinacls> anyone good with lilo
[02:14] <_VIM_> BigMike: glad you got it working, you're welcome
[02:14] <LjL> !root | Philo06
[02:14] <lgc> How can I download the source code of an app?
[02:14] <BigMike> :)
[02:15] <tritium> lgc: apt-get source <packagename>
[02:15] <LjL> igc: apt-get source packagename
[02:15]  * yesyes regains 500mb of space
[02:15] <Dracie> hello world
[02:15] <bruce89> but that'll likely be an old version
[02:15] <Philo06> Haha, damn.
[02:15] <Philo06> Thanks.
[02:15] <subinacls> <~~ trying to get ubuntu back as option to boot after bt4b installation
[02:15] <rww> Philo06: su is asking for the root/administrator password, which doesn't exist because the root account is disabled by default. Use sudo, which asks for your password, instead.
[02:15] <sebsebseb> Dracie: hello
[02:15] <lgc> tritium, thanks. And where does it end up in?
[02:15] <bruce89> find out the upstream website, and have a look
[02:15] <tritium> lgc: your current workding directory
[02:15] <codeuser> killuats: over here with U.S. Eastern Time it is basically bed time. Ask around here or on the forums. I am going to bed soon I think.
[02:15] <Philo06> Okay, thanks
[02:15] <tritium> working, even
[02:15] <lgc> tritium, wonderful, thanks.
[02:16] <_VIM_> Guest40018: hmmm well you're on you're own with that one then if you have to compile it, i don't DO compiling, else i'd be on Gentoo ;)
[02:16] <tom_eats_lives> daftykins,  ok rebooted no problems
[02:16] <killuats> codeuser, thanks man, i really appreciate your help. :)
[02:16] <NeoTubNinja> red_star_: can't say I've ever had that happen. My last 3 installations involved 2 or more partitions :(
[02:16] <Mr_Giraffe> hey, for some reason whenever i click to fire in a first person shooter it gives me rather significant (0.5+ seconds) lag before firing
[02:16] <codeuser> killuats: no problem
[02:16] <Guest40018> _VIM_: Well .. okay .. whats the name of their website ?
[02:16] <subinacls> why couldnt bt4b use grub :(
[02:16] <Mr_Giraffe> this has happened for warsow and urban terror--what gives?
[02:16] <rww> yesyes: You can also do "sudo apt-get autoclean" on the command-line to get back some more space. It'll delete the download files for old packages that aren't needed any more (not the installed files themselves, just the installers). "sudo apt-get clean" will delete all downloaded installers.
[02:16] <_VIM_> !ppa > Guest40018
[02:16] <daftykins> cool tom_eats_lives , see if it works any better
[02:17] <tom_eats_lives> daftykins,  Looks fine , thanks for your help have nice evening / morning
[02:17] <daftykins> no problem, you too :)
[02:17] <Mailas> whats some fun things i can do on my new kubuntu i just installed?
[02:18] <Dracie> hi i'm setting up ubuntu 8.10 and gnome-power-manager becomes unresponsive and so does they brightness keys when i change from batter to power to battery
[02:18] <niedzwiedz> para usar o awn precisa ter o compiz ativado?
[02:18] <sebsebseb> !power
[02:18] <bazhang> !pl
[02:18] <sebsebseb> !battery
[02:18] <_VIM_> Mailas: learn the many hundreds of menus that it has, heh
[02:18] <tensei> i want to make a batch file that opens up 9 files with gedit that I open.. I want to make it executable i think.. i just want to click or run something and have all the files open in one gedit as tabs
[02:18] <rww> !msgthebot > sebsebseb
[02:18] <tensei> can anyone help
[02:19] <yesyes> rww, yeah i normally cd into /var/cache/apt/archives and delete what's there. autoclean sometimes misses packages i've found
[02:19] <sebsebseb> rww: whatever
[02:19] <rww> yesyes: sudo apt-get clean should pick up all of them.
[02:19] <NeoTubNinja> Mailas: first thing I always do is change the look
[02:19] <tritium> sebsebseb: his point is valid
[02:20] <sebsebseb> tritium: blah de blah,  I know hence the whatever
[02:20] <Until_It_Sleeps> Alright, how do I reinstall GRUB?
[02:20] <sebsebseb> !grub
[02:20] <subinacls> looking for some help with lilo
[02:20] <sebsebseb> !lilo
[02:20] <subinacls> trying to get my ubuntu partition back as a boot option
[02:21] <subinacls> would love grub
[02:21] <subinacls> i know ubuntu uses it as its bootloaded
[02:21] <subinacls> however bt4b overwrot it
[02:21] <subinacls> and now im in lilo
[02:21] <pups> !gcc
[02:21] <sebsebseb> bt4b??????
[02:21] <pups> !porta
[02:21] <bruce89> probably best to reinstall grub
[02:21] <pups> !man
[02:21] <sebsebseb> what's bt4b?
[02:21] <subinacls> its nothing
[02:21] <rww> !msgthebot > pups
[02:21] <tritium> subinacls: bt4b?  What is that?  Bed time for Barney?
[02:22] <subinacls> backtrack 4 beat
[02:22] <subinacls> beta(*)
[02:23] <tensei> can anyone help me make a batch file
[02:23] <Guest40018> _VIM_: i have just deleted almost everything i could find in Package manager with the name Cairo .. but there were some files there shouldnt been deleted .. are there some way to restore those ?
[02:23] <Cycom> is there any advantage to a full ubuntu install rather than using WUBI?
[02:23] <kad`> hi there shy on my eth0 look like this : Link encap:UNSPEC HWaddr 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00
[02:23] <MacAnthony> tensei: like a windows batch file?
[02:23] <kad`> how i can change encap from UNSPEC to ethernet ?
[02:23] <LjL> Cycom: faster.
[02:24] <tritium> tensei: that would be a shell script
[02:24] <BLVIR> I need help with speakers. I'll be in #support if anyone wants to help.
[02:24] <tensei> tritium: yes
[02:24] <Cycom> LjL: faster? I thought it booted a full ubuntu system...
[02:24] <bruce89> Guest40018: that doesn't sound good
[02:24] <Cycom> is there a wubi 64-bit?
[02:24] <kad`> any one can help ?
[02:24] <_VIM_> Guest40018: sudo apt-get remove cairo-dock    should do the trick
[02:24] <tbenita> hi, I have the options users,exec in /etc/fstab but when users is here I always a noexec as result. Any idea how to get both users and exec options applied ?
[02:24] <LjL> Cycom: yes, but with the filesystem being "simulated" inside the windows filesystem, there's some overhead - especially if your windows filesystem is fragmented
[02:24] <aijnknknj> Hello. I saved a lot of things to my desktop (about 500 files totalling 23 gb) I have nothing else on my machine that would take up any space. When I ran disk usage analyzer it said i was using 56 gb instead of the 23 gb of files I saved. I used wine to do all of this. If I delete all the duplicates will I break the files. (i saved them all to the emulated windows directory)
[02:24] <tensei> tritium : i want to open many document files
[02:24] <rww> Cycom: Yes. Wubi automatically downloads the 64-bit version if you can use it.
[02:24] <sebsebseb> Cycom: wubi is ok to try Ubuntu, but not good for a proper system
[02:24] <bruce89> you'll have uninstalled cairo, which won't be much good
[02:24] <tensei> tritium : with a single command
[02:25] <sebsebseb> Cycom: if you screw Windows up well enough,  Wubi will get screwed up as well
[02:25] <tritium> tensei: yes, that's fine.  I was just clarifying the terminology for you.
[02:25] <Guest40018> _VIM_: no u right, that is really bad !
[02:25] <Cycom> sebsebseb: I'm a fairly experienced linux user, I'm just too lazy to partition, and would love to avoid it :)
[02:25] <tensei> tritium : thank you, can you help me?
[02:25] <kad`> hi there shy on my eth0 look like this : Link encap:UNSPEC HWaddr 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00 how i can change the encap to ethernet ?
[02:26] <sebsebseb> Cycom: partitining is pretty easy,  espeasilly  if someone else helps you e.g. me that knows how to  partition Ubuntu rather nicely, plus Windows dual boot boots for that matter
[02:26] <Cycom> sebsebseb: if I really screwed up windows (which I've only done once or twice) I have another windows machine and no less than four alternative linux machines to choose from.
[02:26] <LjL> Cycom: actually the ubuntu installer does it quite automatically, you just select "shrink down the windows partition", and it will do it all for you (of course, having a backup is a very good idea).
[02:26] <tensei> can anyone help me set up a shell script?
[02:26] <sebsebseb> on the subject of partitining  guided install giving people like  8GB  swap space wtf?  since 1GB is rather fine
[02:26]  * bruce89 recommends seperate /home partitions however
[02:26] <sebsebseb> yes  that as well
[02:26] <sebsebseb> seperate home is good
[02:26] <kitty_> after i modprobe ndiswrapper i should see my card listed with iwconfig ?
[02:26] <Cycom> sebsebseb: again, I am fairly experienced.  I've been running linux since '99.  When I say "lazy" I mean I don't want to have to clear out space on the windows side.
[02:27] <Cycom> LjL: too.
[02:27] <bruce89> more a case of impossible
[02:27] <sebsebseb> Cycom: you can run Windows inside Ubuntu in a virtual machine, and that should be rather fine,  except for 3D games say
[02:27] <kad`> ?
[02:27] <LjL> Cycom: err well i still don't get it, i mean, you still need free space one way or another
[02:27] <kad`> hi there why on my eth0 look like this : Link encap:UNSPEC HWaddr 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00 how i can change the encap to ethernet ?
[02:27] <sebsebseb> kad`: why ?  was that to what I put?
[02:27] <sebsebseb> no guess not
[02:27]  * Until_It_Sleeps hugs sebsebseb
[02:27] <Cycom> LjL: right, but rather than repartitioning my primary or secondary drive, I can just drop it on the (1TB) secondary drive.
[02:28] <sebsebseb> Until_It_Sleeps: wtf?
[02:28] <Guest40018> _VIM_: What if i put my ubuntu cd in my computer, dont u think it can repair or something ?
[02:28] <LjL> Cycom: and you can't do that with the full-blown install?
[02:28] <kad`> sebsebseb,  ?
[02:28] <sebsebseb> kad`: nevermind
[02:28] <tritium> sebsebseb: please refrain from foul acronyms.
[02:28] <Philo06> What's a good p2p program?
[02:28] <Cycom> LjL: the secondary drive already contains .5 TB of data.
[02:28] <LjL> !p2p > Philo06    (Philo06, see the private message from ubottu)
[02:28] <Until_It_Sleeps> tritium: 9_9
[02:28] <_VIM_> Guest40018: for getting cairo-dock 2? the CD will do you no good
[02:28] <LjL> !good > Philo06    (Philo06, see the private message from ubottu)
[02:28] <sebsebseb> p2p is a joke torrents for the win,  but  for P2P  frostwire
[02:29] <sebsebseb> tritium: alright sorry
[02:29] <tritium> Thanks.
[02:29] <Guest40018> _VIM_: no no, to repair the files i have deleted
[02:29] <kad`> sebsebseb,  got any issue how to change encap from UNESP to ethernet?
[02:29] <LjL> sebsebseb: because torrents aren't p2p...?
[02:29] <davmil> im getting this dumb message that i want to go away when my computer tries to auto connect to a wireless network: "The applicaiton 'Network Manager Aplet' wants access to the default keyring, but it is locked"
[02:29] <sebsebseb> !torrents
[02:29] <sebsebseb> !p2p
[02:29] <davmil> does anyone know how to auto unlock the stupid default keyring?
[02:29] <LjL> sebsebseb: thank you, i *really* didn't need that
[02:29]  * Until_It_Sleeps hugs sebsebseb for pointing him to that link to restore GRUB...
[02:29] <_VIM_> Guest40018: what got deleted?
[02:29] <LjL> sebsebseb: also considering i had just sent !p2p privately to phil
[02:29] <sebsebseb> LjL: I know, but  I was kind of hoping it might say it was P2P when that other guy said
[02:30] <LjL> sebsebseb: the other guy is me, and bittorrent *is* a form of p2p
[02:30] <Guest40018> _VIM_: some files.. almmost every one of my games is gone.. in adminstration can i only do 9 things ..
[02:30] <sebsebseb> LjL: ok I am not reading names properly
[02:30] <sebsebseb> LjL: well I been here long enough, I am going away from computer soon
[02:31] <FaMott> !X
[02:31] <sebsebseb> LjL: anyway looks like torrents is P2P as well then
[02:32] <_VIM_> Guest40018: ok well this has now esceladed to something way beyond installing cairo-dock, Im not sure exactly what you did to get in that mess, but now it's up the heavy hitters in here to help you with that...
[02:32] <jyaan> Is there a fix for Flash?
[02:32] <sebsebseb> jyaan: what's your issue?
[02:32] <jyaan> Extremely poor performance
[02:32] <bruce89> jyaan: get rid of it I'd say
[02:32] <jyaan> The last version was fine
[02:33] <sebsebseb> jyaan: try an alternative
[02:33] <sebsebseb> !gnash
[02:33] <jyaan> I've tried them
[02:33] <sebsebseb> !swfdec
[02:33] <jyaan> 100% of a core isn't a solution for me =/
[02:33] <sebsebseb> jyaan: yep Gnash and Swfdec
[02:33] <eseven73> Ok Remote Desktop works (the one that ubuntu has) AND Freenx's, but VNC (Tunneled) keeps getting disconnected every 3 or so seconds, any ideas (Ubuntu 8.10 on both boxes)
[02:33] <sebsebseb> bruce89: I have been without Flash since last year with this Ubuntu,  because of Firefox issues
[02:34] <Dracie> can i downgrade from 8.10 to 8.04 with not many issues by changing my sources.list?
[02:34] <jyaan> Well I can't just get rid of it
[02:34] <sebsebseb> bruce89: only time I miss it is, if I want to see the video on a BBC News article
[02:34] <rapchee> the adobe version works well for me, but the others had issues
[02:34] <jyaan> My school depends on it, unfortunately
[02:34] <bruce89> it's an evil waste of space IMO
[02:34] <rww> Dracie: No. Downgrading generally doesn't work, and is likely to break things.
[02:34] <rww> !downgrade | Dracie
[02:34] <e3co> I have a 200gb internal hard-drive in my laptop a 320 external hard-drive and just bought a 500gb internal hard-drive. what is the easiest way to transfer my system to the new 500gb hd?
[02:34] <sebsebseb> bruce89: plus there might be the occassioanl youtube video someone wants me to see and I might want to see.    shame  HTML 5's video tag is not suppourted by enough browsers yet
[02:34] <jyaan> I tried downgrading Flash but it didn't work
[02:34] <bazhang> Dracie, using ubuntu or arch?
[02:35] <bruce89> it is by the only ones I care for
[02:35] <sebsebseb> bruce89: and IE wont' suppourt that anytime soon :(
[02:35] <bruce89> sebsebseb: to be precise, WebKit supports it (Epiphany for the actual browser)
[02:35] <bruce89> but then they will all use non-free video formats
[02:35] <sebsebseb> bruce89: epiphany uses gecko  by default, but it can use webkit
[02:35] <bruce89> I know, 2.28 will have only it
[02:36] <sebsebseb> bruce89: Firefox 3.1 has supourt for that tag
[02:36] <e3co> how do I copy the system to the new drive while preserving the permissions?
[02:36]  * bruce89 doesn't trust Mozilla any more
[02:36] <sebsebseb> bruce89: Flash on sites with a good reason that's ok for animation and that,  but  Flash for video that's horrible
[02:36]  * Ishmael wants to know why bruce89 doesn't trust mozilla anymore
[02:36] <sebsebseb> bruce89: what why not?
[02:36] <silentContender> Can some one help me with KDM woes?
[02:36] <jyaan> I guess I'll try and find the old version from Adobe somehow
[02:36] <sebsebseb> silentContender: KDM  I don't like it at all.   sudo apt-get install gdm?
[02:37] <bruce89> the fuss about Debian, their blatent version number bloat
[02:37] <e3co> I have a 200gb internal hard-drive in my laptop a 320 external hard-drive and just bought a 500gb internal hard-drive. what is the easiest way to transfer my system to the new 500gb hd?
[02:37] <jyaan> It's not so nice to be unable to use Youtube and Google video
[02:37] <sebsebseb> jyaan: Flash has security issues,  there was a recant article
[02:37] <sebsebseb> jyaan: viruses and such can be put in Flash as well
[02:37] <jyaan> Yea, that's why I have noscript
[02:37] <bruce89> the fact the browser uses huge amounts of RAM
[02:37] <silentContender> sebsebseb, Well I'm running Ubuntu with KDE 4.1
[02:37] <sebsebseb> silentContender: ok, but you can still use GDM  (Gnome Display Manager)
[02:37] <_VIM_> there's also the flash cookies that no one knows about that are worse than normal cookies
[02:37] <bruce89> the fact they make huge amounts of cash
[02:38] <bruce89> from  peoples' searches
[02:38] <LjL> aren't we being a bit offtopic?
[02:38] <Until_It_Sleeps> what does "Aperture beyond 4 GB: Ignoring" mean?
[02:38] <silentContender> sebsebseb, I understand but I would like to learn from this than just ignore the problem
[02:38] <e3co> Until_It_Sleeps:  I have wondered that for a while
[02:38] <mylisto> I want to put ubuntu onto a ubs drive to boot ubuntu off of the drive...how much space do I need?
[02:38] <e3co> I have a 200gb internal hard-drive in my laptop a 320 external hard-drive and just bought a 500gb internal hard-drive. what is the easiest way to transfer my system to the new 500gb hd?
[02:38] <bruce89> probably, I'll shut up
[02:38] <sebsebseb> LjL: sure, but  it can be useful info to new Ubuntu users to,  to try and avoide Flash :d
[02:38] <Ishmael> bruce89, http://encyclopediadramatica.com/firefox
[02:38] <e3co> I have a 200gb internal hard-drive in my laptop a 320 external hard-drive and just bought a 500gb internal hard-drive. what is the easiest way to transfer my system to the new 500gb hd?
[02:38] <FaMott> Note to self.
[02:39] <FaMott> Don't just restart X.
[02:39] <_VIM_> !repeat | e3co
[02:39] <e3co> FaMott:  ha!
[02:39] <jyaan> Would have been nice if we got an open source solution instead
[02:39] <jyaan> At least these kinds of issues wouldn't go on forever like this
[02:39] <e3co> gnash
[02:39] <sebsebseb> jyaan: well  we got a nice open standard soloution for vidoes ons ites
[02:39] <e3co> is gnash any good?
[02:39] <sebsebseb> jyaan: and audio.  yep the HTML 5 stuff
[02:39] <sebsebseb> jyaan: ,but stupid IE won't suppourt that :(
[02:39] <MacAnthony> wireless issue: my computer stopped finding any wireless networks - driver seems to be configured but iwlist wlan0 scan doesn't find any
[02:40] <Until_It_Sleeps> !patience
[02:40] <jyaan> sebsebseb: they'll get left behind if they don't keep up
[02:40] <silentContender> sebsebseb, secondly I can't even install gdm if I wanted too.  I login on KDM and it crashes to the shell.  The login there is screw up!  I login and instantly logout
[02:40] <sebsebseb> jyaan: well seems more and more people are going Ubuntu
[02:40] <jyaan> sebsebseb: miscrosoft is already concerned about losing to open source browsers
[02:40] <sebsebseb> jyaan: and Ubuntu is like a big win for all good software
[02:40] <jyaan> sebsebseb: IE is the _worst_ of all the browsers regarding both security and performance
[02:40] <sebsebseb> jyaan:  yep
[02:40] <Dracie> I use arch, i installed 8.10 on my brothers new laptop
[02:40] <davmil> does anyone know how to auto unlock the stupid default keyring?
[02:40] <bruce89> security?
[02:41] <jyaan> IE scores extremely low on acid test
[02:41] <Dracie> its a lenovo x61s
[02:41] <Nattgew> could someone tell me what files should be in /etc/event.d?
[02:41] <Until_It_Sleeps> !help what does "Aperture beyond 4 GB: Ignoring" mean?
[02:41] <sebsebseb> jyaan: and it does not come in Ubuntu  and so :d   people will use a good browser in Ubuntu, and so if enough people convert :D
[02:41] <Dracie> gnome-power-manager is totally freaking out
[02:41] <FaMott> !mount
[02:41] <Dracie> becomes unresponive
[02:41] <bruce89> Firefox had as many security issues last year than Opera, IE and Safari combines
[02:41] <Until_It_Sleeps> ubottu: :'(
[02:41] <illumin8> ryno105001: hey
[02:41] <FaMott> I'm trying to mount my Windows partition again >.>
[02:41] <e3co> Until_It_Sleeps:  it has never effected my system
[02:41] <jyaan> At least we have extensions like noscript
[02:41] <toggles_> Until_It_Sleeps: agp issues?
[02:41] <ionicwake> can anybody explain what grub error 17 is and why do i get it  immediately after installing ubuntu ?
[02:41] <ryno105001> hey
[02:41] <LordFDisk> bruce89,  did you try the BetterPrivacy 1.23 plug-in off the flash cookies?
[02:41] <bruce89> I don't use it
[02:41] <jyaan> Wow, adobe is offering .deb files now?
[02:42] <bruce89> Firefox that is
[02:42] <Dracie> i've heard the issue isn't in 8.04 so thats why i want to downgrade
[02:42] <sebsebseb> bruce89: there was a really good security issue for IE7  towards the end of last year or was it  begining of this one.  something pretty damn nasty,  and MS really had to do a crtical security update for that
[02:42] <jyaan> They're extremely easy to make though, so I guess it's not a surprise
[02:42] <Until_It_Sleeps> toggles_: It's only on the 64 bit version of Ubuntu
[02:42] <e3co> I have a 200gb internal hard-drive in my laptop a 320 external hard-drive and just bought a 500gb internal hard-drive. what is the easiest way to transfer my system to the new 500gb hd?
[02:42] <tritium> e3co: please stop repeating, as you've been asked before
[02:42] <sebsebseb> jyaan: for Flash?
[02:42] <toggles_> Until_It_Sleeps: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/271070 seems fixed in jaunty which is what im running, amd64
[02:42] <bruce89> e3co: probably not a good idea
[02:42] <jyaan> sebsebseb yes they have an ubuntu deb for flash
[02:43] <Until_It_Sleeps> so I assume that it has to do with the fact that 64 bit systems can support more than 4 gigs of ram
[02:43] <sebsebseb> jyaan: well check skype.com out then
[02:43] <sebsebseb> jyaan: they suppourt the popular distros
[02:43] <jyaan> sebsebseb i don't use it :P
[02:43] <sebsebseb> jyaan: no me either
[02:43] <Dracie> it seems gnome-power-manager eats cpu too
[02:43] <bruce89> swfdec?
[02:43] <Until_It_Sleeps> toggles_: jaunty? Is that the latest release of Ubuntu? I'm using Ubuntu 8.10
[02:43] <jyaan> sebsebseb I'm actually in Emacs right now...
[02:43] <_VIM_> Dracie: it does, htop is better
[02:43] <bruce89> Until_It_Sleeps: devel release ATM
[02:44] <e3co> Until_It_Sleeps:  Jaunty is the devel version
[02:44] <sebsebseb> bruce89:  yes  Swfdec from the open source community and  Gnash from The Free Software Foundation
[02:44] <Dracie> _VIM_, sorry i meant poewr manager
[02:44] <bruce89> I meant do you use swfdec
[02:44] <Until_It_Sleeps> ah...
[02:44] <e3co> Stick with 8.10 for a while
[02:44] <jyaan> I'm looking forward to either of them catching up
[02:44] <toggles_> Until_It_Sleeps: yeah, it's alpha or beta so upgrades everyday and isn't 100% stable on the desktop, the os seems fine but i have littel gnome/app issues every now and then
[02:44] <sebsebseb> bruce89: I haven't tried anything for Flash again yet,  now that I am down to hardly any tabs in this stupid Ubuntu version of Firefox, that likes to crash and such
[02:44] <e3co> toggles_:  beta last I used it
[02:44] <_VIM_> Dracie: oops i was thinking you said gnome-monitor app, long day :)
[02:44] <sebsebseb> bruce89: on my computer
[02:45] <sebsebseb> bruce89: and Galeon and Epiphany use the same plugin
[02:45] <jyaan> sebsebseb Turns out the deb was packaged by Ubuntu  devs... lol
[02:45] <davmil> does anyone know how to auto unlock the stupid default keyring?
[02:45] <bruce89> nice to see them promote FOSS
[02:45] <toggles_> e3co: yeah, it's fine if you dont mind  a little glitch every now and then, im quite impressed, just moved over from gentoo
[02:45] <silentContender> Can some one help me fix KDM so I can login?
[02:45] <tritium> davmil: no, not the stupid one.  Sorry.
[02:45] <sebsebseb> bruce89: it was worth trying Gnash and Swfdec yes,  I had them both briefly, but problems with Ubuntu's unoffical Firefox version
[02:45] <davmil> :)
[02:45] <davmil> tritium, thanks for validating my belief that it is stupid
[02:45] <sebsebseb> bruce89: Gnash is improving rather nicely.  and so is Swfdec I think
[02:45] <bruce89> sebsebseb: I am currently using swfdec with Epiphany in Jaunty
[02:46] <rww> silentContender: If you don't get an answer here, try #kubuntu. The people in there tend to know more about KDE than in here.
[02:46] <tritium> davmil: I didn't ;)
[02:46] <silentContender> rww, thanks
[02:46] <david_> hola a todos
[02:46] <sebsebseb> bruce89: would have been better if they made a Flash replacement instead of just a player, but not enough devs for that I suppouse
[02:46] <davmil> hola david_
[02:46] <bruce89> sebsebseb: replacement?
[02:46] <tritium> sebsebseb: there is a flash replacement in the works.  (gnash)
[02:46] <david_> no hablo ingles pero estoy buscando ayuda
[02:47] <tritium> !es | david_
[02:47] <sebsebseb> tritium: Gnash and Swfdec are just players, I meant a proper replacement for Flash
[02:47] <bruce89> in which sense a replacement?
[02:47] <sebsebseb> bruce89: even MS have done it Silverlight.  and Novell did the thing Moonlight since no Silverlight for Linux
[02:47] <_VIM_> good question
[02:47] <e3co> toggles_:  I wanted to feel like I was doing my part so I ran it for a month and did the whole bug reporting thing.
[02:47] <fethe8> bonjour, depuis ma derniere "update", le serveur X ne se démare plus apres le "loading"
[02:47] <david_> ok gracias....
[02:47] <stealth-> is there a ubuntu program to communicate with the skype network?
[02:47]  * bruce89 hates silverlight even more
[02:47] <_VIM_> !fr | fethe8
[02:47] <sebsebseb> stealth-: you can use Skype with Ubuntu
[02:48] <e3co> stealth-:  skype
[02:48] <stealth-> sebsebseb: ah. Okay. Thanks
[02:48] <Until_It_Sleeps> ewwwww, I just installed a Nvidia display driver, and now my screen resolution won't go any higher than 1024 x 768, and something funky goes on with title bars in windows when I move my mouse over them...
[02:48] <toggles_> e3co: nice, i was wondering how to do my part, i think im going to order a 20 pack of cd's and hand them out to my mates ;-)
[02:48] <sebsebseb> bruce89: same here
[02:48] <e3co> toggles_:  good idea...
[02:48] <sebsebseb> bruce89: ,but I guess since it's the MS one and they don't have a proper version for Linux
[02:48] <e3co> I got a tattoo
[02:48] <e3co> :D
[02:48] <toggles_> e3co: yeah, keep the load off the download servers ;-)
[02:48] <toggles_> e3co: for real?
[02:49] <bruce89> when <video> appears, there will be arguments about the actual codecs to use
[02:49] <saini-sanjeet> hi
[02:49] <e3co> yeah on my wrist
[02:49] <sebsebseb> !ot |  e3co toggles
[02:49] <e3co> Sorry
[02:49] <fethe8> ive had problems with X since i updated tu the newest kernel help anyone
[02:49] <sebsebseb> saini-sanjeet: hi
[02:49]  * bruce89 is off to off-topic
[02:49] <e3co> <<---me too
[02:50] <BigMike> what program can I use to make a video streaming server?
[02:50]  * rapchee is just off. thanks for the help
[02:51] <silentContender> rww, Would you know how to login with a broken shell?  (i.e. I login in the shell and instantly get logged out)
[02:52] <rww> silentContender: hrm. Do you know how it's broken, specifically?
[02:53] <yfk> which ubuntu alpha may become RC?
[02:53] <ASUSBlue> cd-rom drive i can only use it once in ubuntu
[02:53] <bruce89> that's not how it works
[02:53] <ASUSBlue> then i have to reboot in order to use it again
[02:54] <ASUSBlue> as a matter a fact i can't eject it again after using it once plz help
[02:54] <rww> yfk: Ubuntu Jaunty/9.04 is currently in alpha. The release schedule for RC and final release is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseSchedule . Is that what you meant?
[02:54] <_VIM_> ASUSBlue: sudo eject /dev/sr2  (or whatever yours is) doesn't eject it?
[02:55] <ectospasm> I haven't tried x86_64 linux in a while, is it still a pain to get stuff like Flash working on it?  I was thinking my CPU problem might be ameliorated if I reinstall with a 64bit system.
[02:55] <rww> ectospasm: it works fine for me =/
[02:55] <ectospasm> rww: out of the box
[02:56] <ectospasm> ?
[02:56] <yfk> rww: Guess I didn't know exactly how the release cycle works. but, yeah, that's the info. thanks
[02:56] <rww> ectospasm: I use the alpha 64-bit libflashplayer.so from Adobe, not the one in the repositories.
[02:57] <Mallen_> Hello!
[02:57] <_VIM_> ASUSBlue: there's another trick ive found, open k3b with elevaded privillages kdesudo k3b  and right click your drive thats in the list and choose Eject
[02:57] <ASUSBlue> Please help unable to cd-rom drive does not eject after using only once
[02:57] <rww> ectospasm: but the repo one worked fine before I switched. I just wanted to see if there was a difference.
[02:57] <ASUSBlue> what is k3b
[02:57] <ectospasm> rww: OK
[02:57] <_VIM_> doh ASUSBlue i am helping you, do you have me on ignore or something? :P
[02:57] <_VIM_> ASUSBlue: it's a burning software
[02:57] <tritium> ASUSBlue: a CD burning program, not installed by default
[02:57] <ectospasm> ASUSBlue: k3b is a cd mastering/ripping/burning software that comes with KDE
[02:57] <_VIM_> if you dont have it, dont bother getting it
[02:58] <ASUSBlue> ok but will it allow me to play another media
[02:58] <ectospasm> ASUSBlue: it's not a player
[02:58] <_VIM_> um yeah you need !Players
[02:58] <_VIM_> !players > ASUSBlue
[02:58] <ectospasm> although I think it has the capability of playing known media types.
[02:59] <ectospasm> ...which was always rather klunky, IIRC
[02:59] <Chanito> im using compiz, and i can only have 2 desktops, and when i got to compiz config, and in general tab i cant change to more then 1, why is that?
[02:59] <jyaan> Well, I hope Flash gets murdered by something in the near future
[02:59] <_VIM_> you all still on that flash convo? I figured that was 15 mins ago heh
[03:00] <tritium> Offtopic, at that.
[03:00] <aprilhare> strange. when i double click of a matroska video file, it opens in totem. but when i click 'play' on matroska file in vuze, it opens it in windows media player. which isn't helpful given WMP doesn't have the codecs. how do i make vuze forget about the existance of WMP? :)
[03:00] <ASUSBlue> V.I.M i know that already i can watch dvd movies the problem is that i can only watch one if i eject the drive and put another movie it i can't play it then if i try to take the movie out i can't i have to shut down my computer and turn it back on again. Also i can't just restart it because the BIOS screen freezes
[03:00] <aprilhare> or is it gnome that needs to forget about wmp?
[03:01] <stealth-> I have two computers, one that doesnt belong to me and another that does. Im at the one that doesnt belong to me, and I want to SSH into the machine that does. I dont want the owner of the machine im using to know what im doing on my other machine. Does ubuntu keep records of what I do when I remote login to another system?
[03:01] <ASUSBlue> V.I.M starting to dislike ubuntu
[03:02] <uendell> oi
[03:02] <uendell> oi
[03:02] <uendell> oi
[03:02] <FloodBot3> uendell: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:02] <ectospasm> stealth-: it logs ssh connections via syslog...
[03:02] <ectospasm> usually you'll see something in /var/log/authlog, or perhaps /var/log/messages.
[03:02] <stealth-> ectospasm: I dont care if he knows I logged into the machine, I just dont want him to know what I did on it. Would it record what I did?
[03:02] <ectospasm> stealth-: it'd be in the history file
[03:03] <ectospasm> stealth-: which you can erase
[03:03] <_VIM_> ASUSBlue: sudo eject cdrom  do anything for you?
[03:03] <stealth-> ectospasm: okay thanks. If I could become root, it would be okay to delete everything in the /var/log folder(s)? Or are logs for other stuff kept elsewere aswell?
[03:03] <ASUSBlue> no
[03:03] <spaarkplug> Ectospasm & stealth: wow
[03:03] <stealth-> ectospasm: for instance If I wanted to remove all of my logs for everything on that machine
[03:03] <stealth-> spaarkplug: ?
[03:04] <_VIM_> ASUSBlue: I'm wondering if theres a lock on any of your devices under /media/
[03:04] <ectospasm> stealth-: I don't know that that's ethical, so I'm not going any further.
[03:04] <spaarkplug> stealth: just curious what you guys are upto :) ?
[03:04] <_VIM_> ASUSBlue: you could try to remove the lock and then try sudo eject cdrom
[03:04] <ASUSBlue> V.I.M eject: tried to use `/media/cdrom0' as device name but it is no block device
[03:04] <ASUSBlue> eject: unable to find or open device for: `cdrom'
[03:04] <ASUSBlue> asus@ubuntu:~$
[03:05] <stealth-> ectospasm: ethical? Im not even doing anything, I dont even have two systems. Im just curious about how it works. Because I know ubuntu keeps program folders in places like /usr/ and other parts elsewere, so I was wondering about logs
[03:05] <stealth-> spaarkplug: ^
[03:05] <bert1> i changed a lot of  appearance settings last night (icons, x11 mouse theme, compiz themes etc) and now my top menu item in my grub menu (kernel 2.6.27-13-generic) loads but ends up on a black screen that never loads anything. if i load up the kernel before that, kernel 2.6.27-12, it will load (its what i'm on now). how do i fix my latest kernel and get it to boot again??? please help
[03:05] <ectospasm> ASUSBlue: you could always use the pinhole on the front of the drive to manually (physically) eject the disc
[03:05] <ectospasm> Of course, the drive will remain inoperative...
[03:06] <spaarkplug> stealth: I just pm 'ed you.
[03:06] <ASUSBlue> ectospasm true did that but if i put another movie or cd or data disk or whatever it does not work
[03:06] <ASUSBlue> thats a problem
[03:06] <ASUSBlue> i have to shut down and restart the computer
[03:07] <ectospasm> ASUSBlue: I had a similar problem with my old workstation's DVDROM drive.  After about 20min of uptime, it would fail to eject.  I never did solve it, I figured the drive was going bad.
[03:07] <Q751> In 7-zip, what the hell do the "update mode" options do and which ones d I choose?
[03:07] <ASUSBlue> This is a brand new computer
[03:07] <ectospasm> ASUSBlue: that doesn't mean the drive can't go bad.
[03:07] <ASUSBlue> True but it never happens in windows
[03:08] <ASUSBlue> I can exchange media in windows as many times as i want
[03:08] <ectospasm> ASUSBlue: I had the same problem with Ubuntu on mine... like I said, I never did solve it
[03:08] <ectospasm> ASUSBlue: look in /var/log/messages, to see if there are any errors or warnings about the CDROM drive...
[03:08] <turtle_> what is a good program to do a remote login easily?
[03:08] <ectospasm> turtle_: ssh
[03:09] <turtle_> im gonna remotely login from my laptop to my desktop, both are right here
[03:09] <disappearedng> how do you start a private conversation with someone through the console?
[03:09] <ectospasm> turtle_: or do you need xlogin?
[03:09] <disappearedng> "/msg" is not it
[03:09] <ASUSBlue> Yeah that sucks then cause i looked all over the place and there are no solutions anywhere there are some things that i could work around that i had problems with ubuntu that are bearable but this is unexceptable i'am going to try a another distro
[03:09] <turtle_> ectospasm, where do i get all the addresses to type in?
[03:09] <ASUSBlue> may open suse or something
[03:09] <shyam_k> recording sound is becoming more and more complex, with some configuration it gives me a nasty humming background noise, and at some other time prolly with some other alsamixer config, it gives me that noise removed, now it just doesn't record the sound though i can hear it back through the headphone!
[03:09] <ectospasm> turtle_: What do you mean?
[03:09] <marcus_> Quick question. Is it okay to erase the extracted tarball of a program that is compiled?
[03:10] <turtle_> well, where is ssh?
[03:10] <ectospasm> disappearedng: what IRC client are you using?
[03:10] <rww> marcus_: yup, should be.
[03:10] <ectospasm> turtle_: aptitude -y install openssh
[03:10] <marcus_> rww: Thanks
[03:10] <ectospasm> turtle_: aptitude -y install openssh-client
[03:10] <disappearedng> ectospasm xchat
[03:10] <ubuntu_> hey guys gparted doesn't show my partitions :/, but fdisk does
[03:10] <ectospasm> disappearedng: /msg <nick> should do it, assuming that nick is still logged into the network
[03:10] <Q751> Hey, I tried Linux once. To install files you can't just double click them? You have to jump through hoops? Isn't that primitive?
[03:10] <ASUSBlue> Yeap leaving ubuntu trying some other distro if that don't work oh well Microsoft windows vista hear i come
[03:11] <ectospasm> disappearedng: it won't open a new window or tab until the other party responds.
[03:11] <disappearedng> ectospasm: i actually wanna start a new window
[03:11] <ASUSBlue> very very upset with ubuntu
[03:11] <ectospasm> ASUSBlue: file a bug if you're so inclined.
[03:11] <Anacranom> ubuntu_, yes it does, just gotta know where to look
[03:11] <ASUSBlue> Where can i do that do you have a link
[03:12] <ectospasm> ASUSBlue: launchpad.net
[03:12] <bazhang> !bugs > ASUSBlue
[03:12] <ASUSBlue> Anacranom I looked everywhere
[03:12] <ubuntu_> ummm Anacranom, not it doesnt sec.
[03:12] <ASUSBlue> i spent hours and hours on this issue already it's not a minor problem this is huge
[03:12] <ASUSBlue> having to shut down your computer everytime you want put a new disk is a very big problem
[03:12] <ectospasm> disappearedng: you should be able to start a new window on the desired network, and send a message that way.
[03:13] <ubuntu_> Anacranom: >> http://i39.tinypic.com/64fkp2.png
[03:13] <ectospasm> disappearedng: I'm helping you from memory, I haven't used xchat in almost a year, maybe more.
[03:13] <turtle_> ectospasm, what about the Remote Desktop Viewer?
[03:14] <ectospasm> turtle_: sure, if you want to run an RDP server on the target host...
[03:14] <Anacranom> ubuntu_, looking
[03:14] <ubuntu_> anybody know why gparted can't read my partition table? > http://i39.tinypic.com/64fkp2.png
[03:14] <ectospasm> turtle_: what are you trying to do with this remote connection?
[03:14] <ubuntu_> thanks Anacranom
[03:14] <turtle_> just getting a feel for networking and such
[03:14] <ectospasm> ubuntu_: does fdisk or cfdisk see it properly?  (disclaimer, I don't use gparted)
[03:15] <turtle_> ectospasm, I wanna eventually be a Unix Admin
[03:15] <Anacranom> ubuntu_, did you click the drop-down in the upper left?
[03:15] <ectospasm> turtle_: then learn to use SSH
[03:15] <Dreamglider> what is the button "host" ?
[03:15] <ectospasm> Dreamglider: in reference to what?
[03:15] <Dreamglider> ectospasm,   Virtualbox says that to go full screen use Host+f
[03:16] <turtle_> ectospasm, where is it located in the GUI when i need to use it?
[03:16] <ubuntu_> Anacranom: ok so this is what i did
[03:16] <ectospasm> turtle_: SSH is a CLI program...
[03:16] <michael__> host is probably the right cntrol key
[03:16] <ectospasm> turtle_: you need to learn to use the command line interface if you want to be a UNIX Admin..
[03:16] <turtle_> ubuntu_, use ctrl+alt
[03:16] <michael__> Dreamglider: host is probably the right cntrol key
[03:16] <turtle_> ok
[03:16] <ubuntu_> i have a 60 gig extended partition table for my OS's a 170 gig for my /home.. in my 60 gig partition table i wanted 20 gigs to be ubuntu and 20 gigs to be windows
[03:17] <turtle_> thanks ectospasm
[03:17] <ubuntu_> i installed windows in it and now it seems like it ruined my entire partition table :/
[03:17] <turtle_> strange name, but good advice
[03:17] <ectospasm> ubuntu_: welcome to the world of installing Windows after Linux.
[03:17] <Dreamglider> ubuntu_, have a look at testdisk
[03:17] <ubuntu_> so what do i do now :(
[03:18] <temporarytao> ectospasm, lol
[03:18] <ectospasm> ubuntu_: testdisk is not a bad option, you may be able to recover your partition table that way
[03:18] <ubuntu_> lets hope :/
[03:18] <ectospasm> ubuntu_: but of course you may invalidate your Vista install...
[03:18] <ubuntu_> it was XP
[03:18] <ectospasm> ubuntu_: or XP, or whatever
[03:18] <ubuntu_> i dont mind, i just really dont want my /home or my linux filesystem to get messed up
[03:19] <Dreamglider> ubuntu_, to cheer you up, testdisk saved my @ss twice today.... :P
[03:19] <turtle_> pirating is bad but windows can be obtained for a nice discount
[03:19] <ectospasm> ubuntu_: did you delete any partitions when you installed XP?
[03:19] <ubuntu_> no ectospasm
[03:19] <ubuntu_> i had everything set up nicely
[03:19] <Dreamglider> pirating is the only way !
[03:20] <ectospasm> ubuntu_: then your data is probably still there, you'll just need to recover the partition table.
[03:20] <turtle_> Dreamglider, can you crack Vista?
[03:20] <ubuntu_> yeah
[03:20] <mhall119> turtle_: with a hammer
[03:20] <Dreamglider> turtle_, yea
[03:20] <ectospasm> ubuntu_: testdisk will help there, if anything will.
[03:20] <shyam_k> turtle_: just run it
[03:20] <turtle_> 64 Ultimate?
[03:20] <ectospasm> Vista was cracked before it was released, wasn't it?
[03:20] <turtle_> I did but dont use it,         LOL
[03:20] <Dreamglider> turtle_, i dont know, i tested vista a year ago, in the beta stage worked then
[03:20] <rww> !pirate
[03:20] <turtle_> just wanted to make sure I could do it
[03:20] <shyam_k> turtle_: http://www.badvista.org
[03:21] <rww> !piracy
[03:21] <michael__> !o4o
[03:21] <Dracie> what does o4o stand for?
[03:21] <michael__> that is what i was wondering...
[03:21] <turtle_> its autogenerated
[03:22] <michael__> autogenerated by what?
[03:22] <turtle_> like the rain
[03:22] <rww> Dracie: offtopic for offtopic. Aka, "it's not even allowed in #ubuntu-offtopic"
[03:22] <Anacranom> !ot
[03:22] <ubuntu_> allright rebooting, wish me luck guys :D
[03:23] <Dreamglider> can i use utorrent in wine and save the download on a ext3 partition ?
[03:23] <Dreamglider> ubuntu_, gl
[03:23] <turtle_> its the new !o4o generator is dispencing !o4o's as we speak!!!  Get them while they're hot and steamy
[03:23] <rww> turtle_: not here, thanks
[03:23] <Scunizi> many have had issues w/ utorrent in wine.. why not just use a native client.. transmission is built in
[03:24] <turtle_> ok, I apologize
[03:24] <z35> I need sane-epkowa 2.14.0 which is in libsane-extra, does anybody know where i can get the latest unstable version?
[03:24] <darrik> hello, i kinda need some help with my internet. I am using a usb dongle for internet and am using my drivers from windows via ndswrapper. I seem to browse and surf on firefox fine, but updating and adding/removing programs is either really slow or kinda "hiccups" speed.
[03:24]  * Anacranom agrees with Scunizi 
[03:24] <darrik> Also ima using 8.10
[03:24] <ILoveXP> darrik: did you select the best server for the downloads or just use the default?
[03:24] <turtle_> darrik, whhy ndiswrapper?
[03:24] <Dracie> rww, gotcha
[03:24] <turtle_> most all cards have built in driver now
[03:24]  * Scunizi gives Anacranom the nod. 
[03:25] <Mike94287> Rhythmbox just froze on me so I force quit it and now I can't reopen it. Can someone tell me how I can get it to open?
[03:25] <darrik> Ilovexp, i used the one that sounded the closest
[03:25] <turtle_> darrik, which card you have?
[03:25] <ILoveXP> darrik: do you know how to choose the fastest one for your connection?
[03:25] <darrik> turtle, belkin model, f5d7050
[03:26] <darrik> Ilovexp, no
[03:26] <rwparris2> does anyone in here use wireshark?  It doesn't see any of my network interfaces, but it works fine in windows on the same computer :/ (ubuntu 8.04, installed wireshark by apt-get install wireshark)
[03:26] <turtle_> and it didnt recognize it when you installed Ubuntu?
[03:27] <turtle_> darrik, read above, sorry
[03:27] <darrik> i was reading something about ipv6 slowing stuff down
[03:27] <mhall119> rwparris2: I use it, but never had that problem
[03:27] <darrik> turtle, no it wouldn't even light up
[03:27] <Mike94287> Rhythmbox just froze on me so I force quit it and now I can't reopen it. Can someone tell me how I can get it to open?
[03:27] <redvamp128> Dreamglider:  I did find this about your utorrent- it seems as if it has a GOLD/Platinum status with some issues. WineHQ - uTorrent 1.8.1 <http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&amp;iId=14464>
[03:27] <rwparris2> mhall119, odd
[03:28] <mhall119> rwparris2: tried running it as root?
[03:28] <ILoveXP> system -> administration -> software sources. then choose "download from: other". there will  be a select best server button
[03:28] <rwparris2> I don't know how to do that?
[03:28]  * Anacranom considers changing nick to "IHateXP" but that would conflict with ILoveXP and cause a rip in the fabric of the chat-time-continuum and ... and.. NEO!
[03:28] <rwparris2> ignore that question mark^
[03:28] <turtle_> darrik, probably the glitchy many paths and uncertainties going through ndiswrapper and different file systems!
[03:29] <turtle_> its a bummer in scientific terms
[03:29] <darrik> ahh my server was set to canada
[03:29] <rwparris2> mhall119, nevermind, running as root does work thank you
[03:29] <mhall119> no problem
[03:29] <darrik> that should fix it
[03:29] <darrik> *checking*
[03:30] <darrik> turtle, that might be it too. I have a large ntfs filesystem on here
[03:32] <Mike94287> Rhythmbox just froze on me so I force quit it and now I can't reopen it. Can someone tell me how I can get it to open?
[03:33] <coreyman> mike94287 restart your pc?
[03:33] <ILoveXP> Mike94287: Is the process still running? Sometimes when I force Amarok to quit, the process continues to run. Kill that and then try restarting
[03:33] <bosco_> i run ubuntu i have installed e17 on my laptop and i have downloaded more modules, apps and things for e17 they are all edj files how do install them now?????
[03:33] <Mike94287> coreyman: I know that's a solution but I'd rather not, I know there's another way to do it but I forgot how.
[03:34] <Mike94287> ILoveXP: How can I kill the process?
[03:34] <mercutio22> I am trying to install the latest transmission torrent client from the repository lines provided at the official site. I am having trouble getting the authentication keys though
[03:34] <ILoveXP> Mike94287: In a terminal type: ps -ef | grep rhythmbox
[03:34] <ILoveXP> see if anything shows up
[03:34] <mercutio22> here, please look
[03:34] <mercutio22> http://www.pastebin.ca/1354977
[03:34] <Matr|X> plz
[03:34] <Matr|X> i installed apache on my box
[03:34] <coreyman> wow, rather not restart...
[03:34] <coreyman> lol...
[03:35] <Mike94287> ILoveXP: 7946  7899  0 22:34 pts/0    00:00:00 grep rhythmbox
[03:35] <shyam_k> can i get a seperate vlc repo than the multiverse thingy?
[03:35] <Matr|X> i dont know wher is config. to configer my host
[03:35] <ILoveXP> hmmmm
[03:35] <marioxcc> Matr|X: ¿how the fille is called?
[03:35] <mercutio22> shyam_k> I guess you can add as many as you want
[03:35] <marioxcc> ¿.config?
[03:35] <ILoveXP> I was hoping that was the problem, then it's easy to fix. I wonder if rhythmbox has a lock file or something
[03:35] <Matr|X> when i do http://localhost   its give me this It works!
[03:36] <Mike94287> ILoveXP: It seems to be working now, it wasn't for the past 20 minutes though. Thanks anyway.
[03:36] <Matr|X> i want to put one file and read it viua http
[03:36] <shyam_k> mercutio22: i mean i don't want to enable the multiverse, but just want to get the vlc..
[03:36] <marioxcc> Matr|X: ok, i understand
[03:36] <Matr|X> sorry my english is not so good
[03:36] <mercutio22> shyam_k> why not enable multiverse?
[03:36] <marioxcc> Matr|X: my english is also poor
[03:37] <Matr|X> ehehe but u undrstand
[03:37] <marioxcc> Matr|X: do you speak spanish?
[03:37] <Matr|X> i can use trnsliat :O
[03:37] <Matr|X> can i privet you ?
[03:37] <ILoveXP> Mike94287: If you run rhytmbox from the command line, what does it say?
[03:37] <marioxcc> Matr|X: ¿do you speak spanish)
[03:37] <marioxcc> ¿privet?
[03:37] <Matr|X> nop
[03:38] <bazhang> !es | marioxcc
[03:38] <Mike94287> ILoveXP: I was able to get it to open.
[03:38] <metalforever> ello
[03:38] <ILoveXP> Mike94287: What did you do?
[03:38] <Mike94287> ILoveXP: After checking the thing you told me to I just tried opening it again and it worked.
[03:38] <att0> is there any terminal command to list users on a system?
[03:38] <Naisenu> Argh a really quick question on Rhythmbox. It crashed itself playing a CD - I force quit the app. But the same 1 second section of sound is still playing. Can I restart the sound server/daemon (whatever it is) without logging off?
[03:38] <davmil> does anyone know how to get rid of the "Enter password for default keyring to unlock" message when a user logs in and it tries to connect to the wifi network?
[03:39] <daftykins> davmil yeah join the wireless network and refuse to allow the key to be attached to the keyring
[03:39] <davmil> daftykins, ok.... if the key is already on the keyring, how do i get rid of it?
[03:40] <redvamp128> Naisenu:  sometimes my sound just stops and this fixes it up for me but should work to restart it ... sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart
[03:40] <daftykins> davmil try deleting the profile for the wireless connection and re-creating
[03:40] <ILoveXP> Mike94287: Well, I'm glad you got it working
[03:40] <Naisenu> redvamp128: tried and no-worky.
[03:41] <davmil> thanks daftykins trying now
[03:41] <aprilhare> or is it gnome that needs to forget about wmp?
[03:41] <aprilhare> strange. when i double click of a matroska video file, it opens in totem. but when i click 'play' on matroska file in vuze, it opens it in windows media player. which isn't helpful given WMP doesn't have the codecs. how do i make vuze forget about the existance of WMP? :)
[03:42] <att0> command to list users on a system?
[03:42] <redvamp128> Naisenu:  unless you are not using -- alsa == but you could try a log off-- then hit the ctl-alt-backspace then log back in -- that should get it to reload the sound without a full reboot.
[03:42] <jyaan> users
[03:42] <Kryzler> does anyone know a way of solving Error 15: file not found in the Grub loader? The Grub is v1.5 I believe.
[03:42] <jyaan> or who
[03:42] <Naisenu> ah for the love of ... now Rhythmbox is crapped.
[03:43] <sebsebseb> Naisenu: you use Intrepid Ibex?
[03:43] <Naisenu> I experienced this error a few weeks back with Rhythmbox that it suddenly cannot find my music. You know the same music it found not 10 mins ago.
[03:43] <sebsebseb> Naisenu: use Banshee :)  if  Ibex, and if Hardy get the ppa for it
[03:43] <bert1> i changed a lot of appearance settings last night and now when i turn my computer on and select the latest ubuntu kernel (kernel 2.6.27-13-generic) it goes to a black screen and never loads anything. if i use the kernel before that (2.6.27-12) it loads fine (its what i'm using now) - how can i fix my latest kernel to load again? please help!
[03:43] <Naisenu> sebsebseb: what is banshee?
[03:44] <sebsebseb> Naisenu: a better music and video player
[03:44] <ILoveXP> Naisenu: Amarok is great, you should try it
[03:44] <Naisenu> And yes I'm running Intrepid
[03:44] <sebsebseb> Naisenu: get Banshee :)  sudo apt-get install Banshee
[03:44] <stealth-> whats that program called that creates a snapshot of the system files and reports when any of them have changed? Its used as an intrusion detection system
[03:44] <Naisenu> ILoveXP: Yeah except I have to install a bunch of KDE stuff.
[03:45] <sebsebseb> Naisenu: I used to use Rythombox for music, but then Banshee got good.   Rythombox  sucks compared to these later versions of Banshee
[03:45] <Naisenu> Is there any way to get rid of the annoying repeating sound?
[03:45] <ILoveXP> KDE is better anyway
[03:45] <Kryzler> If any of you need more details, I basically installed Ubuntu 8.10, and then installed OpenSUSE and for some reason the grub can't find the Ubuntu OS
[03:45] <SchmittyDoesIt> i installed epic on gutsy and i don't know how to toggle between channels. Is anyone familiar with it.
[03:45] <ILoveXP> It's more windows-like
[03:45] <sebsebseb> ILoveXP: depends on the user
[03:45] <sebsebseb> to Windows like isn't good really
[03:45] <Naisenu> ILoveXP: Okay you stick with it then. I currently like Gnome, tyvm
[03:45] <metalforever> Kryzler: you installed over it.
[03:45] <SchmittyDoesIt> I installed epic on gutsy and i don't know how to toggle between channels. Is anyone familiar with it.
[03:45] <mercutio22> so about the gpg.conf error? http://www.pastebin.ca/1354977
[03:46] <ILoveXP> I use Gnome too, KDE is horrible, but I love Amarok
[03:46] <Kryzler> I'm positively sure I installed to separate partitions metalforever
[03:46] <sebsebseb> Kryzler: you can edit Grub and add Ubuntu to it
[03:46] <sebsebseb> !grub
[03:46] <ILoveXP> I am gonna try this banshee thing out though
[03:46] <TruthTaco2> whats the best virtualization software?
[03:46] <mercutio22> It seems I am the user who owns that file indeed
[03:46] <Kryzler> thank you sebsebseb :)
[03:47] <sebsebseb> TruthTaco2: Virtualbox is rather good, but you  the binary the non OSE for USB suppourt from their site http://www.virtualbox.org
[03:47] <sebsebseb> you need the binary
[03:47] <Meneertje> hi
[03:47] <sebsebseb> hi
[03:47] <Naisenu> Aw shit. This sound is stuck in here. I tried opening Totem to play an mp3 and the same sound was playing. Not what I asked it to play even though the time ticker was moving.
[03:47] <Meneertje>  Copy xorg from suse 11.1 to xubuntu 8.10
[03:47] <TruthTaco2> ive got virtualbox installed... and i even have the non OSE installed
[03:47] <daftykins> Does anyone run vmware server on their ubuntu desktop?
[03:47] <TruthTaco2> but i cant get usb or hard drives to work
[03:47] <TruthTaco2> or shared folders
[03:47] <Meneertje> can i copy suse xorg to xubuntu?
[03:47] <stealth-_> Naisenu: restart the sound server?
[03:47] <hungtv2684> @yahoo.comhelo
[03:47] <mohanohi> hi..
[03:48] <hungtv2684> deo me
[03:48] <sebsebseb> Meneertje: xorg conf or whatever it is, yeah  that should work I think
[03:48] <xakk22> does anybody use an alternative to grub or lilo??
[03:48] <Naisenu> stealth_: The alsa command?
[03:48] <ILoveXP> alsa force-reload
[03:48] <mohanohi> where can i get latest cinelerra 4 for ubuntu interpred 64bit
[03:48] <Naisenu> stealth_: Tried it. Didn't work.
[03:48] <sebsebseb> xakk22:   I don't think so
[03:48] <Meneertje> no?
[03:48] <sebsebseb> xakk22: not for Ubuntu anyway
[03:48] <stealth-_> Meneertje: I dont think so, you can try, but dont expect it to work. Make a backup of the old one and just copy it back over via terminal if it doesnt work. If your not terminal savy, its probably not a great idea
[03:48] <stealth-_> Meneertje: ubuntu has very "diverse" configuration settings
[03:49] <Meneertje> cause xubuntu doesn't recognize the 1024x576 resolution
[03:49] <Naisenu> ILoveXP: That threw a bunch of warnings but it appears to have worked.
[03:49] <Meneertje> suse did recognize...
[03:49] <sebsebseb> daftykins: used to, but  for  non server stuff,  Virtualbox is better
[03:49] <stealth-_> Naisenu: no, like stopping and restarting the service. Im not sure what ubuntu uses for its sound server, so it might be better just to restart. if this happens often, then you should be asking for a permanent fix, not a short one
[03:49] <sebsebseb> daftykins:  well virtualbox can be used for servers as well I guess
[03:50] <daftykins> i see no reason to think virtualbox is any better than vmware
[03:50] <daftykins> however i've got a funny issue where the cursor keys don't work
[03:50] <Meneertje> to move back to backup xorg conf... is it somelike like mv /etc/.... /etc
[03:50] <Naisenu> stealth_: What ILoveXP said worked ... alsa force-reload
[03:50] <daftykins> only the number pad directionals are
[03:50] <bert1> i changed a lot of appearance settings last night and now when i turn my computer on and select the latest ubuntu kernel (kernel 2.6.27-13-generic) it goes to a black screen and never loads anything. if i use the kernel before that (2.6.27-12) it loads fine (its what i'm using now) - how can i fix my latest kernel to load again?
[03:50] <sebsebseb> daftykins: http://www.virtualbox.org and you would want the  binary the non OSE  version  for USB supourt.  and Virtualbox can use your VMDK's no problem without needing a stupid vmx file
[03:51] <stealth-_> Naisenu: well then, your using alsa. You might have been using OSS or Y for all I know.
[03:51] <daftykins> no thanks not interested in virtualbox
[03:51] <Meneertje> you must blank out the latest kernel
[03:51] <Meneertje> during boot
[03:51] <ariqs> how do I run a perl script?
[03:51] <sebsebseb> daftykins: ok well whatever
[03:51] <stealth-_> whats that program called that takes a snapshot of the computers system files, and reports any change made to them? Its used as an intrusion detection software
[03:51] <sebsebseb> !perl
[03:52] <Meneertje> anyone installed ubuntu on HP2140?
[03:52] <SchmittyDoesIt> !epic
[03:52] <nihilist> You actually need to search for a TV-show you know!  Type !eptriggers for help.
[03:52] <ILoveXP> ariqs: ./script.pl
[03:52] <ariqs> hmm, thought i tried that, thanks
[03:52] <stealth-_> ariqs: "perls script.pl"?
[03:52] <stealth-_> ariqs: opps, that should be "perl script.pl"
[03:52] <ILoveXP> You need to be in the directory the script is in, and it has to be executable
[03:53] <stealth-_> ILoveXP: I dont think that would work
[03:53] <SchmittyDoesIt> how do I toggle between channels in EPIC
[03:53] <ariqs> ahh, thanks
[03:53] <davmil_> daftykins, ok i did what you suggested ... now it tries to auto connect to the wifi network, but it doesnt store the key and wants me to enter the key every time
[03:53] <stealth-_> ILoveXP: do you have to compile perl?
[03:53] <ILoveXP> perl scripts aren't compiled
[03:54] <stealth-_> ILoveXP: then the bash terminal would be trying to run the program as a bash program, wouldnt it? I know for python you have to "python python.py". "./python.py" doesnt work
[03:54] <daftykins> ah ok davmil_ it didn't do that for me
[03:55] <xakk22> does anyone know how to do this : http://www.pelogo.org/data/phoo/2006_09_12/Capture-ubugrey.png
[03:55] <lstarnes> stealth-_: ./python.py will work if the first line is #!/usr/bin/env python
[03:55] <davmil_> daftykins, unfortunately this is a keyboardless/mouseless computer that i want to auto connect to the wireless network when it comes online... any other ideas?
[03:55] <ILoveXP> stealth-_: I am gonna try it after banshee is done installing
[03:55] <stealth-_> lstarnes: ah, thank you. I guess I should keep that in mind :)
[03:55] <SchmittyDoesIt> bye
[03:55] <ILoveXP> I don't have perl installed right now so I have to wait until the download is done
[03:55] <daftykins> no none i'm afraid
[03:55] <stealth-_> ILoveXP: I think what lstarnes said would apply to perl, aswell.
[03:55] <MK13> davmil_: what is your problem, i just caught the tail end of it
[03:56] <lstarnes> stealth-_: it would be #!/usr/bin/perl instead
[03:56] <stealth-_> lstarnes: thought so. Thanks
[03:56] <ILoveXP> yeah, that would work
[03:56] <stealth-_> ILoveXP: yeah, so what lstarnes said :)
[03:56] <ILoveXP> you just have to let bash know where the interpreter is
[03:56] <twistedr>  /server irc.deviantart.com
[03:56] <twistedr>  /connect irc.deviantart.com
[03:57] <davmil_> MK13, im running a mythtv ubuntu box with no keyboard or mouse... i want it to auto connect to a network when the user is auto logged in
[03:57] <blackbyte> pato?
[03:57] <blackbyte> :)
[03:57] <shini> wolas
[03:57] <shini> xD
[03:57] <blackbyte> me llamo camilo y tu
[03:57] <blackbyte> chetumareee
[03:57] <davmil_> MK13, unfortunately it stores the WEP key in a keyring that i have to unlock every time it tries to connect
[03:57] <MK13> davmil_: so it is a headless setup?
[03:57] <shini> pato po wn xD
[03:57] <blackbyte> xD
[03:57] <daftykins> davmil_, i'd imagine an option would be to disable the gnome network manager and somehow use WPAsupplicant or whatever intrepid uses these days and script it to connect manually at boot
[03:57] <blackbyte> mira
[03:57] <blackbyte> coloca
[03:57] <davmil_> MK13, its connected to the tv, but has no keyboard/mouse
[03:58] <xakk22> found it: GFX Grub ;)
[03:58] <davmil_> MK13, i can VNC in... but not if its not on the network :)
[03:58] <blackbyte>   /join #ubuntu-es
[03:58] <blackbyte> coloca eso
[03:58] <blackbyte> escribe esa wea
[03:58] <MK13> davmil_: i know
[03:58] <ILoveXP> davmil_: On my headless server, I put all the commands to connect to the network  in /etc/rc.local and it works great
[03:58] <davmil_> ILoveXP, including ur WEP key?
[03:59] <wizzer> my sound stops working whenever updates are found for the system
[03:59] <Scunizi> I just installed perlmagick as the front end for imagemagick.. but can't locate it in the menus and whereis perlmagick doesn't return anything.. how do I find it and "run"?
[03:59] <damo22> i need libglib1.2 but it says the package has no installation candidate, how can i tell the package manager that i already have the replacement package?  http://pastebin.com/d56cd1eee
[03:59] <ILoveXP> hmmm, I don't use WEP, I am assuming there is a way to define that on the command line also though
[03:59] <davmil_> ILoveXP, that there is
[03:59] <davmil_> thats a solid idea guys, thanks
[03:59] <grape-ape> why are my load averages so high?
[03:59] <davmil_> i prolly just need to not use this stupid network manager applet
[04:00] <wizzer> restarting alsa also doesn't work
[04:00] <marioxcc> blackbyte: hablas español?
[04:00] <ILoveXP> davmil_: I uninstalled it, works fine without it
[04:01] <arquebus> marioxcc: !es
[04:01] <ILoveXP> wizzer: What do you mean restarting also doesn't work? It doesn't fix the problem, or it doesn't restart?
[04:01] <arquebus> !es
[04:01] <MK13> davmil_: have you tried - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=773296  ?
[04:01] <ILoveXP> !es > marioxcc
[04:02] <davmil_> MK13, no, thank you, will do that
[04:02] <damo22> how do i tell the package manager that i already have a replacement package which satisfies the dependency of further packages?  http://pastebin.com/d56cd1eee
[04:02] <gaintsura> O.o my network manager was just taking 99% of my cpu? wtf
[04:02] <marioxcc> ubottu: oh, sorry :S
[04:02] <MK13> it uses /etc/network/interfaces which is what i always define on my server
[04:02] <MK13> davmil_: no prob
[04:02] <damo22> how do i tell the package manager that i already have a replacement package which satisfies the dependency of further packages?  http://pastebin.com/d56cd1eee
[04:02] <mikewu> Scunizi: if you run dpkg -L perlmagick | grep bin you can see what files it places in the bin folder. That should give you the command to run
[04:02] <wizzer> Ilovexp, it doesn't fix the problem
[04:03] <ILoveXP> are you using alsa? or did you switch to OSS?
[04:03] <jyaan> sebsebseb swfdec seems OK, at least it's better than Adobe's
[04:03] <marioxcc> ubottu: sorry by talking in spanish in this channel
[04:03] <wizzer> i think i'm using alsa
[04:03] <marioxcc> hahaha
[04:03] <Scunizi> mikewu: thanks
[04:05] <Scunizi> mikewu: weird .. that returns nothing and synaptic says it's intalled.
[04:05] <falkman> how come an arrow moves on the screen when i move my mouse?
[04:05] <falkman> is that supposed to happen?
[04:06] <Scunizi> falkman: the arrow is your mouse?
[04:06] <falkman> this whiteish it looks like an arrow
[04:06] <ILoveXP> falkman: you probably have a virus.
[04:06] <damo22> can someone help me resolve my unmet dependency... there is a replacement package, but apt doesnt recognise it as a valid replacement... http://pastebin.com/d75761d18
[04:07] <falkman> what is a virus?
[04:07] <jyaan> swfdec doesnt work with Youtub?
[04:07] <ILoveXP> wait, this is #ubuntu, not #windows
[04:07] <mikewu> Scunizi: apparently perlmagick just provides a module for perl it isn't really a frontend for imagemagick
[04:07] <jyaan> Youtub*
[04:07] <jyaan> -.-
[04:07] <jyaan> Youtube
[04:07] <ILoveXP> You definately DO NOT have a virus
[04:08] <jyaan> weak
[04:08] <ILoveXP> wizzer: /join #alsa
[04:08] <ziroday> falkman: does it appear in a screenshot?
[04:08] <falkman> so you say i cannot have a virus on ubuntu?
[04:08] <Scunizi> mikewu: I can understand not having a front end for imagemagick but what does that mean "a module for perl"?
[04:08] <jyaan> perl is a language
[04:08] <Scunizi> doh
[04:08] <lstarnes> damo22: libglib1.2 is recognized as a different package than libglib2.0-0
[04:09] <falkman> yes, it is an arrow on the screen, and when i move my mouse, it moves
[04:09] <RPS> Hello Guys, I have another laptop, but I'll get back to that story can wait ...a virus on ubuntu sounds like more fun. ;)
[04:09] <lstarnes> damo22: it's for programs which work with version 1.2 but not 2.0
[04:09] <damo22> lstarnes: yes, i know... i need libglib1.2 for xmms
[04:09] <lstarnes> damo22: what about xmms2?
[04:09] <falkman> RPS: its really not that hard
[04:09] <falkman> make a virus for UNIX
[04:09] <Scunizi> mikewu: just an interface mechanism for perl and imagemagick?
[04:09] <falkman> it would work on any platform from UNIX to linux
[04:10] <tritium> falkman: stay on topic, please
[04:10] <mikewu> Scunizi: yeah it just exposes imagemagick perl, what exactly are you looking for though?
[04:10] <damo22> lstarnes: i dont want a server/client music player, just a simple xmms
[04:10] <Philo06> I like Audacious.
[04:10] <falkman> it is indeed on topic
[04:10] <Philo06> Looks like Winamp.
[04:10] <tritium> falkman: no, the topic is ubuntu support
[04:11] <Scunizi> mikewu: a gui front end for imagemagick.. I can use some of it's functions via termainal.. but some are complex enough I'd like to gui-fy them
[04:11] <damo22> how do i tell apt that libglib1.2ldbl replaces libglib1.2 as a valid package?
[04:11] <lstarnes> damo22: iirc, xmms is now obsolete due to many security issues, unpatched bugs, and depending on an old version of glib
[04:11] <Philo06> Is KDE4 still considered to be unstable?
[04:12] <jyaan> Does anyone know where I can get the older version (just before latest Intrepid) of Flash?
[04:12] <damo22> lstarnes:  i dont care, its the only music player that has a plugin that works with jackd 0.109-2
[04:13] <damo22> lstarnes: i tried audacious, but i just get white noise in jack
[04:13] <lstarnes> damo22: I think xmms2 has a jack plugin, but I'm not sure how well it works
[04:13] <maalicious> hey all...
[04:13] <maalicious> whats up with ye...
[04:13] <mikewu> Scunizi: unfortunately i think that imagemagick only exists as a command line program.
[04:14] <niedzwiedz> how to add a custom city in the weather report?
[04:14] <maalicious> i installed art manager...how do i remove it now?
[04:14] <sumdude> why I have no moose?
[04:15] <sumdude> i move moose and noting hapen
[04:15] <Philo06> Sort of wish you could just right-click the icon and uninstall.
[04:15] <Scunizi> mikewu: yep.. I've been looking for the last couple of years to no avail.. wish I knew how to program because that package is invaluable and feature ridden. It would get a lot more exposure with an interface
[04:15] <damo22> i still want to know how to tell apt that a replacement package satisfies the old packages dependency
[04:15] <sumdude> i sorry for bad engish
[04:15] <flaco> hello... anyone with expirence with touch panels??
[04:15] <sumdude> MOOOSE!
[04:16] <maalicious> what is moose?
[04:16] <bazhang> sumdude, lose the caps
[04:16] <sumdude> moose it ave buttons
[04:16] <juanbond> hey guys, where's a good place for me to install applications i don't install from synaptic?
[04:16] <sumdude> you click wit it
[04:17] <juanbond> some people say install to /opt?
[04:17] <ziroday> maalicious: sudo apt-get remove gnome-art
[04:17] <tritium> sumdude: quiet, falkman
[04:17] <lstarnes> juanbond: for most things, try /usr/local
[04:17] <maalicious> thanku...let me try it now...
[04:17] <Scunizi> juanbond: you'll either have a deb or a binary.. they will install where the installer tells it to.  If it's compiled then the same happens.
[04:17] <ziroday> juanbond: /opt is for large apps like OO.o or eclipse. What app are you compiling from source?
[04:18] <juanbond> Well, I am installing eclipse as well
[04:18] <maalicious> it works ziroday!!!
[04:18] <ziroday> maalicious: awesome
[04:18] <juanbond> plus, I want to install the flex builder for linux
[04:18] <ziroday> juanbond: well its your choice really, for me I would stick them under /opt but both will work.
[04:18] <maalicious> ziroday, i also want gdesklets removed...
[04:18] <DFM> I have an atheros 5007 wifi that I am trying to get working. I can't locate the inf file to use with ndiswrapper. I can't seem to find a place to download it and when I look on this vista machine it only shows it as a .sys
[04:18] <maalicious> how to do ti?
[04:19] <juanbond> ziroday: is there a reason why /opt should be only accessed using sudo?
[04:19] <D3RGPS31> anyone up to explaining how to add ruby on rails to lamp :D
[04:19] <ziroday> maalicious: sudo apt-get remove gdesklets gdesklet-data
[04:19] <juanbond> or should i change own and perms on it for my user
[04:19] <DFM> anyone know where I can find the inf?
[04:19] <ziroday> maalicious: or you can use synaptic, search for the gdesklets package and remove the correct one.
[04:20] <maalicious> hmmm....it says....couldn't find package...
[04:20] <VieQ> hi all, GPicView don't play .gif
[04:20] <maalicious> trying synaptics now...
[04:20] <VieQ> do you know one that do?
[04:20] <ziroday> maalicious: my bad its sudo apt-get remove gdesklets gdesklets-data
[04:20] <ziroday> VieQ: firefox?
[04:21] <VieQ> ziroday, how do I play 650 Gifs in FireFox!!!
[04:21] <VieQ> do I open them one by one??
[04:21] <maalicious> superb...i got it removed thro synaptics...
[04:21] <maalicious> thanks ziro!!
[04:21] <ziroday> VieQ: mirage will work.
[04:21] <VieQ> checking
[04:22] <maalicious> ziro...i also want to know...is there any harm if i login as root
[04:22] <ziroday> maalicious: yes there is.
[04:22] <DFM> anyone on the wifi problem?
[04:22] <ziroday> !root | maalicious
[04:22] <bert1> i can't get rhythmbox plugin to work thru gnome-do, when i check it it says  ERROR: "*PATH*/Rhythmbox.dll already exists" - my PPAs are all updated and i've reinstalled it - how can i get rhythmbox plugin to work thru gnome-do??
[04:23] <maalicious> ziro...actually am now logged in asroot...
[04:23] <maalicious> i got a tutorial from web...
[04:23] <maalicious> used it to change the password..and log in as root...
[04:23] <ziroday> maalicious: well you really shouldn't do that. You can easily break your system as well as leaving it unsecure
[04:23] <ziroday> !noroot | maalicious
[04:24] <VieQ> ziroday, thanks it wrks
[04:24] <VieQ> :)
[04:24] <ziroday> VieQ: sweet
[04:24] <maalicious> oh!!!
[04:24] <maalicious> i just wanted to know if it's potentially harming my suystem...
[04:24] <maalicious> i had to do it cause...i couldn't even move files between my folders...
[04:25] <ziroday> maalicious: you logging in as root and following random tutorials on the internet might
[04:25] <maalicious> ..like moving a file from desktop to another systems folder...
[04:25] <juanbond> can anyone think of a reason why it would not be a good idea for me to chown /opt/* for my user?
[04:25] <RPS> Hello Guys, I had a tough time with my new (piece of crap) Vista machine when I tried to run 8.10 64bit on it from the wubi folder. Now it actually ran perfectly, so I said that wrong. I'll explain, it was a sweet set up and everything ran to perfection UNTIL I tried to run anything with from CD/DVD drive ...it would show everything on any media placed in the drive, but as soon as I tried to use anything in the drive it would immediately
[04:25] <RPS>  lock up and die. As soon as I would reboot everything would be fine until I tried to access the drive again. Well anyway I made a post on the forums and followed it for over a month. I wound up buying another laptop and I just spotted a reply on my old post. It seems to answer my issue, but it confuses me a little at the same time. If someone could take a look at it I'd be thankful.
[04:26] <lstarnes> juanbond: it would increase the likelyhood of damage to /opt
[04:26] <ziroday> RPS: link to forum post?
[04:26] <Kryzler> Where does the Ubuntu OS physically boot from on the hard-disk? I'm trying to configure my boot-loader
[04:26] <ziroday> Kryzler: you mean where is grub? In /boot
[04:28] <RPS> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1012009.html
[04:28] <Kryzler> erm... Well, it's rather confusing actually... The OpenSUSE grub loader will load the Ubuntu Grub when I select ubuntu, but whenever I choose one of the options in the Ubuntu grub, it gives me Error 15
[04:28] <RPS> the last entry
[04:28] <Scunizi> Kryzler: it's probably on the wrong drive.. do you have more than one drive?
[04:29] <SchmittyDoesIt> Every night my linux box and I have a four hour battle of fustration ending with a short by sweet feeling of satisfaction..... it never fails
[04:29] <Kryzler> No, I have separate partitions however Scunizi
[04:29] <Scunizi> Kryzler: how do you manage to compare two different grubs?
[04:29] <maalicious> how to manage disk space in ubuntu?
[04:30] <ziroday> RPS: one sec
[04:30] <RPS> thanks
[04:30] <daftykins> what does that battle entail SchmittyDoesIt  ?
[04:30] <ziroday> maalicious: Disk Usage Anaylzer (baobab)
[04:30] <SchmittyDoesIt> maalicious: qparted
[04:30] <Kryzler> Scunizi: sorry, I'm not sure what you mean by that question :/
[04:30] <maalicious> do i have to download it/
[04:30] <MacAnthony> I have a wireless network issue that was working - my card won't locate any wireless networks
[04:30] <MacAnthony> iwlist wlan0 scan doesn't find any
[04:30] <SchmittyDoesIt> maalicious: no you have it and it Gparted actually
[04:30] <ziroday> Kryzler: could you pastebin the output of sudo fdisk -l and cat /boot/grub/menu.lst please
[04:30] <maalicious> am using ubuntu 8.10
[04:31] <Scunizi> Kryzler: you said the Opensusa grub loader loads ubuntu but the ubuntu grub gives error 15
[04:31] <ziroday> maalicious: its in System > Accessories
[04:31] <danbhfive> MacAnthony: try with sudo
[04:31] <maalicious> ok..lemme check...
[04:31] <maalicious> system accessories?
[04:31] <SchmittyDoesIt> maalicious: be careful with it
[04:31] <aL3xa> do you have problems with DVD burning?!
[04:32] <juanbond> so someone was saying before, that for the most part, it's cool to install apps to /usr/local, but large apps install at /opt ?  so, adobe air was installed by default to /opt, is adobe air a big app like eclipse?  or should i just always install stuff to /usr/local?
[04:32] <MacAnthony> danbhfive: it's not a permission issue
[04:32] <maalicious> yes schmitty!
[04:32] <MacAnthony> same result
[04:32] <aL3xa> I cannot write DVD's faster than 4x
[04:32] <derekS> hey guys, I have ubuntu on 3 machines and i just added a vista home premium desktop to my mix. I want to do some sort of remote desktopping into the windows machine, but microshaft doesn't include rdp in this version, does anyone have any reccomended FREE and LEGAL setups?
[04:32] <SchmittyDoesIt> maalicious: lol
[04:32] <ziroday> RPS: it does sound like a serious issue you have got there :)
[04:32] <ganymede> derekS, VNC
[04:32] <aL3xa> DVD burning problem, pls help
[04:32] <Kryzler> er... Scunizi Yeah, OpenSUSE uses Grub v2 and will load the v1.5 Ubuntu Grub upon selecting the Ubuntu option in the OpenSUSE grub
[04:32] <maalicious> i cant find it!
[04:32] <aL3xa> cannot write faster than 4x
[04:32] <danbhfive> MacAnthony: well, there is a permission issue.  Without sudo, the scan command just reports the result of the last scan.  With sudo, it does a new scan
[04:32] <derekS> ganymede: which one? there are a bunch of servers
[04:32] <maalicious> ;'(
[04:32] <ziroday> RPS: so just trying to understand, you are still using wubi right?
[04:33] <MacAnthony> danbhfive: I get the same result
[04:33] <ganymede> derekS, i use RealVNC on XP. there's also tight VNC. i'm not sure which one you will prefer
[04:33] <RPS> no abandoned that set up and went on to another pc
[04:33] <ziroday> RPS: and basically as soon as you play any media of a cd/dvd the drive dies?
[04:33] <SchmittyDoesIt> maalicious: one sec
[04:33] <maalicious> okay schmit...
[04:33] <ziroday> RPS: right, do you know if it happens on a livecd/actual install?
[04:33] <RPS> yep the second I try to do anything other look at stuff it dies
[04:33] <Lighttitan> ok, just did a fresh install of Ubuntu. I think I am missing some of my favorite repositories... cause when I do a search for stuff like "Limewire" or "Boxee" it doesn't find anything in Synaptic like my last installation of Ubuntu did.
[04:33] <derekS> ganymede: can i lock the windows machine and still remote in with realvnc?
[04:33] <df1> whats my ip?
[04:33] <Lighttitan> Can someone point me in the right direction?
[04:33] <Scunizi> Kryzler: so it's cascading the grub menu's? Opensuse loads the grub menu for ubuntu?  If that is the case then was Opensuse installed second?
[04:33] <ganymede> derekS, i don't know; i've never tried.
[04:34] <RPS> well it corrupted my vista and I finally dropped that whole project
[04:34] <ziroday> RPS: please address it makes it easier for me :). Does this happen on an actual install or just wubi?
[04:34] <RPS> bought another laptop and I'n using it
[04:34] <ganymede> df1, try whatismyip.com or something like that
[04:34] <SchmittyDoesIt> maalicious: you checked Applications -> System Tools. ?
[04:34] <df1> i did but i dont trust it
[04:34] <derekS> ganymede: and it doesn't bring over sound, does it?
[04:34] <df1> it gave me some 54 number
[04:34] <RPS> I never tried it in anything other than wubi
[04:34] <maalicious> i just have compiz fusion icon there...
[04:34] <RPS> I ran the livecd and it played fine
[04:35] <SchmittyDoesIt> df1: ipchicken.com
[04:35] <SchmittyDoesIt> maalicious: pull u a terminal
[04:35] <ziroday> RPS: hmm right. Well I would strongly recommend you try to install ubuntu normally on your computer and see if its still an issue
[04:35] <maalicious> okay...
[04:35] <SchmittyDoesIt> maalicious: sudo apt-get install gparted
[04:35] <ziroday> maalicious: do you want to manage disk space or format your disk?
[04:35] <cjae> I have two hds in my box how do I tell for sure which one grub (mbr) is installed to
[04:35] <RPS> I've heard that vista 64 and ubuntu can have problems together
[04:36] <ziroday> RPS: not that I have heard of.
[04:36] <maalicious> manage disk space...
[04:36] <Lighttitan> oh wait.... I think I know what repositories I am missing, something about midubuntu or something? Can someone please jog my memory?
[04:36] <ziroday> maalicious: then in a terminal type in baobab
[04:36] <RPS> I thought there were partitioning issues
[04:36] <ziroday> SchmittyDoesIt: gparted does not manage disk space :)
[04:36] <SchmittyDoesIt> maalicious: after that then look in applications > system tools
[04:36] <Kryzler> Scunizi: hole in one! Yeah Ubuntu was installed first, and OpenSUSE second
[04:36] <cody> hi i have a problem can you help me
[04:36] <MacAnthony> any one good with wireless network troubleshooting?
[04:36] <ziroday> RPS: nope, just follow the installer and you should be as good as gold
[04:37] <cody> im a virus
[04:37] <cody> virus
[04:37] <cody> you will all die
[04:37] <SchmittyDoesIt> ziroday: this will suffice
[04:37] <bazhang> cody, stop
[04:37] <ziroday> !ops | cody
[04:37] <ganymede> derekS, sorry, i never tried sound
[04:37] <maalicious> schmit i still show only compiz icon...
[04:37] <RPS> I hope you are not the herpes virus
[04:37] <rabbit_ubuntu> Hey guys
[04:37] <rabbit_ubuntu> Having a lil' challenge
[04:37] <maalicious> ziro: it shows me disk usage analyzer
[04:37] <rabbit_ubuntu> Trying to get an ISO to run in a Vbox XP
[04:37] <ziroday> maalicious: which is what you want right?
[04:38] <rabbit_ubuntu> But I can't install Daemon tools
[04:38] <Lighttitan> In Synaptic I am missing some of my favorite apps when I go to search, like "Limewire" and "Boxee" does anyone know what repository I might be missing that would have such apps?
[04:38] <rabbit_ubuntu> Is there anything I can do about that?
[04:38] <maalicious> but...how do it shrink or extend volume int it?
[04:38] <maalicious> just like in vista...
[04:38] <ziroday> Lighttitan: you need to enable repo's for those projects
[04:38] <ziroday> maalicious: then you want gparted. First do apt-get install gparted and then do gparted
[04:39] <ziroday> rabbit_ubuntu: you need to ask in ##windows for windows issues
[04:39] <maalicious> hmmm...i just tried it...but the icon does not show up...
[04:39] <ziroday> maalicious: icon?
[04:39] <maalicious> i just have the compiz fusion icon...
[04:39] <Kryzler> maalicious: you may need to do "sudo gparted"
[04:39] <Scunizi> Kryzler: ok.. so Opensuse over wrote the mbr and set it's own grub up but didn't recognize ubuntu as it's own unique install and so the grub entry only referenced the old grub menu on ubuntu.. sounds like you need to manually edit opensuse's /boot/grub/menu.lst and fix the reference to boot ubuntu.. that or use a live cd and fix it that way. I can give you a link if you want.
[04:39] <Lighttitan> ziroday, I don't recall enabling repositories for those specifically, I think they were included in some kind of general repository I added at some point in my last Linux install
[04:39] <ZykoticK9> rabbit_ubuntu, (so long as it isn't a bootable cd) you could mount the CD using VB prior to starting XP, then when XP is booted it will think the cd is in the drive... just a suggestion.
[04:39] <bazhang> Lighttitan, medibuntu?
[04:39] <Kryzler> Scunizi: please, anything would be helpful right now :)
[04:39] <maalicious> okay okay...got it...
[04:39] <Lighttitan> ya, that's the one I think! Thanks bazhang
[04:40] <maalicious> problem solved!!
[04:40] <Scunizi> !grub | Kryzler
[04:40] <ziroday> bazhang: medibuntu has boxeee?
[04:40] <rabbit_ubuntu> ZykoticK9: A better suggestion, thanks alot. I appreciate it.
[04:40] <bazhang> ziroday, dont think so no
[04:40] <rabbit_ubuntu> And I figured since im running it IN Windows THROUGH Ubuntu this would be the place
[04:40] <rabbit_ubuntu> ZykoticK9:  I'll try that, thanks again
[04:40] <Kryzler> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:41] <Scunizi> Kryzler: can you access the ubuntu partition?
[04:41] <maalicious> my tunapie2 suddenly says there are no streams avlbl!!!
[04:41] <maalicious> even a few moments ago i was using it...
[04:41] <MacAnthony> any one got time to help troubleshoot a wireless issue?
[04:41] <maalicious> how did this happen?
[04:41] <AE> depends
[04:42] <turtle_> i love the solved part
[04:42] <AE> MacAnthony: do an iwconfig and pastebin the results and send it to me
[04:43] <maalicious> somebody help....my tunapie2 says no streams avlbl...
[04:44] <Kryzler> Scunizi: yes
[04:44] <Kryzler> I can mount it no problem at all from within OpenSUSE
[04:45] <aaron_> does anyone on here play wow i need some quick help with getting my game installed
[04:45] <RPS> ziroday, do you think I should give it another try? Should I change my bios settings like the guy said in the post? Do you think it will give me issues like the guy said?
[04:46] <Scunizi> Kryzler: as an interim, you could compare /boot/grub/menu.lst from both installs and see what reference is used on the ubuntu menu verses the opensuse.. then augment the opensuse menu to match the hd reference etc.
[04:46] <ziroday> RPS: yep I reckon you should, I would change the bios settings, and I would do a proper ubuntu install, not with wubi
[04:46] <Kryzler> cheers Scunizi I'll give that a go
[04:46] <Scunizi> Kryzler: good luck
[04:47] <stokee> help guys, i just installed a fresh copy of ubuntu 8.10 and get no wireless... i am using a toshiba l35 with atheros a/b/g
[04:48] <Scunizi> stokee: the icon in the upper right near the clock that looks like computer screens .. click and or right mouse click to get a menu to activate wireless.
[04:48] <RPS> ziroday, now I have to think in a WinBlows way ...let me see, Vista wants permission to do this and that and that and ...
[04:49] <stokee> its greyed out
[04:50] <stokee> the wired network, auto etho, and wireless networks are greyed out
[04:50] <rabbit_ubuntu> ZykoticK9: Thanks for the suggestion, it worked
[04:50] <Scunizi> stokee: go to system>Admin>Network and try there.
[04:50] <rabbit_ubuntu> ZykoticK9:  I appreciate it. G'night till next time guys
[04:50] <ZykoticK9> stokee, I had the EXACT same problem for a while yesterday with my EEE, wireless didn't work until I plugged the EEE back in.  You don't happen to be running off batteries are you?
[04:51] <stokee> i tried out system specific things and i think its on the drivers, bcoz when i do iwconfig eth0 - no wireless ...
[04:51] <ZykoticK9> stokee, ummmm, different problem then - iwconfig was showing my card :(  good luck
[04:52] <Scunizi> stokee: eth0 is the wired port.. typically wireless is different
[04:52] <stokee> l0, eth0, wifi0 - no wireless
[04:52] <stokee> extensions
[04:52] <stokee> i have ath0
[04:53] <Scunizi> stokee: that might be it
[04:53] <Scunizi> probably is
[04:53] <bazhang> try sudo dhclient ath0 stokee
[04:55] <stokee> still . . . checking it out
[04:56] <acu> is there any utility which grabs the IP address of your eth card and send it to a website, ftp or email (I have a box which gets dynamic IP - and I want to get the IP without the need of someone physically there to tell me what is the new IP)
[04:56] <SandGorgon> acu: you can hack one together in python using twitter APIs. there are lots of examples
[04:57] <tritium> acu: easier just to use a service like dyndns, or similar
[04:58] <njero> hey all, I am trying to format a folder full of xml files. I can do this with xargs and xmllint: "ls *.xml | xargs xmllint -f" but I want to redirect the output for each xargs call back to the original file. Can xargs do this?
[04:58] <mejobloggs> hi guys im running ubuntu for a fileserver, and ive just gone to get a video, and all my files are gone! any idea what's happened?
[04:59] <tritium> mejobloggs: that's obviously not enough information
[05:00] <mejobloggs> tritium: ok only other bit of info is that i changed the permissions recently, but the files were still there after that anyway
[05:00] <mejobloggs> tritium: maybe ask me questions cause im a noob and dont really know what info to give
[05:00] <timmyd> does anyone know how to roll back firefox to 3.0.6 easily?
[05:00] <racecar56> ack my sound dosent work
[05:01] <jyaan> timmyd: all you can do is go into synaptic and click "force version" from the menu, and hope that version is there
[05:01] <tritium> mejobloggs: you'd have to tell us what you did.  Files just don't disappear.
[05:01] <racecar56> my sound is broken.. i know it isnt muted
[05:01] <jyaan> timmyd: then if it is, you can lock the version so it won't bother you about an upgrade
[05:01] <timmyd> jyaan: hm poop. it only has 3.0.3
[05:02] <joerlend_> what's the name of that fantastic movie made in bender?
[05:02] <jyaan> =/
[05:02] <mejobloggs> ok, the changing permission thing is the only thing i can think is related. What I did is changed the Owner and Group to nobody, since i assumed that would let everyone have full access
[05:02] <jyaan> joerlend Which one?
[05:02] <joerlend_> jyaan: the bunny one.
[05:02] <jyaan> big bucky bunny or something like that
[05:02] <joerlend_> yes! Thanks :)
[05:03] <jyaan> I saw it, it was pretty interesting
[05:03] <jyaan> I could _never_ use Blender like that though
[05:03] <jyaan> :P
[05:03] <mejobloggs> but apart from that... ive done nothing else
[05:03] <tritium> jyaan: #ubuntu-offtopic for non-support comments, please
[05:04] <meoblast001> ahh help
[05:04] <meoblast001> Pidgin won't let me block people on MSN
[05:04] <meoblast001> i hit block, it shows the locked door, but the IM's keep comming
[05:04] <racecar56> my sound is broken.. i know it isnt muted
[05:04] <damo22> lol
[05:04] <tritium> meoblast001: pidgin's IRC channel is #pidgin
[05:04] <racecar56> what to do?
[05:04] <ZykoticK9> mejobloggs, "nobody" is an actual user account, so it really depends on the permissions that are currently set for group and other, can you log onto the server through ssh or some other means?  can you check if the files are actually still there, and what there permissions are set too?
[05:05] <racecar56> !sound
[05:05] <mejobloggs> ZykoticK9: can log in through putty, what should i do from there?
[05:05] <ember_> hey if i upgrade from kubuntu 8.04 will i keep kde 3?
[05:06] <Scunizi> yes
[05:06] <jyaan> Does anyone have any idea what happened with Flash? Now when I play videos, they only work correctly for about 10-20 seconds, and either totally lag out or start skipping fast-forward. I also got the older v10's from Adobe but they had the same result (! was pretty shocked about that)
[05:06] <ZykoticK9> mejobloggs, perfect, do you know where the files where located (what directory)?  try logging on and changing to that directory.  are you serving files with NFS or Samba?
[05:06] <jyaan> Firefox doesn't give any error messages though
[05:06] <Code_Bleu> how can i flash the BIOS on my DELL latitude e4300 running ubuntu 8.10 64 bit?
[05:07] <mejobloggs> ZykoticK9: i just right clicked on them and said 'share', so whatever that is
[05:07] <ember_> If i upgrade from 8.04 will i be able to keep KDE 3? or will it just upgrade to 8.04?
[05:07] <J-_> Do 3D applications still crash with Hardy and the GM965 chipset?
[05:07] <jyaan> ember_: I believe it will upgrade
[05:07] <regeya> doo doop doop doo doo
[05:07] <ziroday> ember_: I don't think so, but #kubuntu will know more
[05:07] <mejobloggs> ZykoticK9: what do i put in the command line now that im at the dir?
[05:07] <acu> tritium: thanks it is a good ideea - I can make that computer with dynamic id as a dynamic ip client - now I have to learn how to make the server to get the message
[05:07] <ZykoticK9> mejobloggs, ls -l
[05:07] <jyaan> ember_: You might get both installed
[05:07] <mejobloggs> mejobloggs@fatso:/mnt/filestore1$ ls -l
[05:07] <mejobloggs> ls: reading directory .: Input/output error
[05:08] <mejobloggs> total 0
[05:09] <mejobloggs> ZykoticK9: does that mean my hdd is dead? that folder is just 1 hdd
[05:09] <ziroday> mejobloggs: is the hdd mounted?
[05:09] <ZykoticK9> mejobloggs, on the left you should see something like -rw-r--r-- these are the permissions, there are 3 groups show here: User, Group and Other, we need to see that Other so the last group has at least r
[05:09] <ZykoticK9> mejobloggs, ziroday might be onto something, do you have more then one drive?
[05:10] <mejobloggs> yes have more than 1 drive, but they just work when i turn the pc on
[05:10] <mejobloggs> so i dunno why they would suddenly not work
[05:10] <Code_Bleu> update BIOS on dell laptop running ubuntu...how?
[05:10] <silver_swords> hi there.
[05:10] <ziroday> mejobloggs: well it sounds like the hard drive might not even be mounted. What does sudo umount /mnt/filestore say?
[05:10] <ZykoticK9> mejobloggs, if you type "mount" do you see more then one hdX or sdX listed?
[05:11] <roccity> hey guys whats going on
[05:11] <mejobloggs> mejobloggs@fatso:/mnt/filestore1$ sudo umount /mnt/filestore1
[05:11] <Scunizi> Code_Bleu: some motherboards allow you to put the new bios image on a cdrom or usb stick then boot into bios and do it from there.
[05:11] <mejobloggs> umount: /mnt/filestore1: device is busy.
[05:11] <mejobloggs>         (In some cases useful info about processes that use
[05:11] <mejobloggs>          the device is found by lsof(8) or fuser(1))
[05:11] <FloodBot3> mejobloggs: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:12] <mejobloggs> and mount says: /dev/sda1 on /mnt/filestore1 type ext3 (rw)
[05:12] <sam__> holy crap
[05:12] <sam__> someone help me
[05:12] <ZykoticK9> mejobloggs, your in the directory your trying to unmount - that won't work.  try  "cd /" first then retry the unmount
[05:12] <roccity> whats up sam__
[05:12] <sam__> i just plugged my iPod into my computer. RythymBox opened up and said every file on the ipod is missing.
[05:12] <Code_Bleu> scunizi: Dell doesnt offer that..ive looked
[05:12] <racecar56> my sound is broken.. i know it isnt muted
[05:12] <racecar56> can someone help??
[05:13] <sam__> all 4K of my songs just disappeared
[05:13] <sam__> and now my ipod's back to factory settings
[05:13] <sam__> it doesnt even have a name anymore
[05:13] <sam__> its just: Apple iPod music player
[05:13] <silver_swords> ouch
[05:13] <sam__> yea
[05:13] <sam__> wtfffffffffffff
[05:13] <roccity> sam__: aye?
[05:13] <Scunizi> Code_Bleu: how is it suppose to happen
[05:13] <tritium> sam__: vulgarity doesn't help
[05:13] <mejobloggs> ZykoticK9: ok so this time sudo umount /mnt/filestore1 just... well i did it, and it didnt say anything
[05:14] <silver_swords> and you didnt have a backup?
[05:14] <sam__> Sorry
[05:14] <sam__> im just frustrated
[05:14] <sam__> my backup is on the windows portion of the HD
[05:14] <roccity> sam__: did you unplug it without unmounting it?
[05:14] <ZykoticK9> mejobloggs, now try mounting it again "sudo mount /mnt/filestore1"
[05:14] <sam__> which linux cant open
[05:14] <racecar56> linux can open ntfs...
[05:14] <sam__> Roccity- yea, after it said there wree no songs on it
[05:14] <racecar56> use ntfs-3g
[05:14] <racecar56> (ubuntu comes with ntfs-3g)
[05:15] <sam__> linux says its unable to unmount the portion w/ my winxp files
[05:15] <Code_Bleu> scunizi: run the executable from within windows or from dos.  Ive tried using ultimite boot cd and running the dos boot disk, however i have been unsuccessful in accessing the exe once booted
[05:15] <sam__> which had a good chunk of my songs
[05:15] <mejobloggs> ZykoticK9: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1,       missing codepage or helper program, or other error.       In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try       dmesg | tail  or so
[05:15] <roccity> sam__: I don't think linux can mount hfs? anyone can correct me
[05:15] <ZykoticK9> mejobloggs, SO we now know that the problem is your SATA drive is not mounting.
[05:16] <jerry1963> Anyone seen newsman?
[05:16] <mejobloggs> ZykoticK9: shall i try restarting my pc?
[05:16] <roccity> sam__: I think it uses fuse like for win mtp files system
[05:16] <mejobloggs> ZykoticK9: maybe a plug came out or something?
[05:16] <ZykoticK9> mejobloggs, if you haven't already -- YES
[05:16] <Scunizi> Code_Bleu: is there something specific on the upgrade that you need? if not then don't bother.. if you do need something then maybe you're stuck
[05:16] <sam__> i used to be able to access my windows stuff
[05:16] <sam__> i dk why this happened
[05:17] <jerry1963> I cant get my shock player or any adobe system to work after downloading it
[05:17] <polywaffle> hey, I saw in a linux magazine that ubuntu has an image optimised for netbooks at some site similar to the following: d$image.canonical.com or something similar, any ideas?
[05:17] <tritium> polywaffle: cdimage
[05:17] <jerry1963> Ive probably downloaded it 10 times
[05:17] <tritium> polywaffle: cdimage.ubuntu.com, that is
[05:17] <trapline91> Can someone help me out real quick. I have all the restricted drivers installed for playing DVD's but when I start to play a DVD it seems like my computer freezes up and won't play
[05:18] <polywaffle> ok no worries, they said it was hidden but maybe not.  Is that optimised?
[05:18] <trapline91> I have never been able to get a dvd to play
[05:18] <Cige> hey, is there an easy way to make a windows partition with Ubuntu already installed?  I see plenty of guides on how to do it the other way around, but that's not exactly helpful.  I really just want it so that I can run a few games on my laptop.
[05:18] <TeamColtra[CAM||> jerry1963: You haven't rebooted yet have you?
[05:18] <ZykoticK9> trapline91, have you installed dvdcss2 from the Mediabuntu repo?
[05:18] <Datz1> Hi, when I try to use Ubuntu live cd on my emachines T2245 when the Desktop GUI starts up, everything goes black.  The same cd works on my other computer though.  Is there a graphics driver problem or something?
[05:18] <aprilhare> strange: when i double click on a matroska video file in gnome, it opens in totem. however, when i click 'play' on a matroska file in vuze, it opens the video with windows media player (c/o crossover) which isn't helpful given WMP doesn't have the codecs to play them. how do i make vuze forget about the existance of WMP? :)
[05:18] <roccity> I think sam is upset
[05:18] <trapline91> ZykoticK9, Don't think so, never heard of it
[05:18] <rww> Cige: Vista or XP?
[05:18] <sam__> woah
[05:18] <jerry1963> Yes I think I did this morning
[05:18] <sam__> i was just in here
[05:18] <sam__> about my ipod
[05:18] <sam__> getting messed up
[05:18] <sam__> and
[05:18] <FloodBot3> sam__: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:18] <Cige> rww; Xp
[05:18] <sam__> k sorry
[05:19] <racecar56> ...
[05:19] <racecar56> my sound is broken.. i know it isnt muted.. what do i do???
[05:19] <TeamColtra[CAM||> Cige you _DO_ do it in reverse... just create the new partion in gparted and make it a FAT32 or NTFS and install it on that partiion
[05:19] <roccity> sam__: can you check it in a apple or win box?
[05:19] <rww> Cige: http://apcmag.com/how_to_dual_boot_linux_and_windows_xp_linux_installed_first.htm
[05:19] <aprilhare> i'll repeat my last message - it got swamped :)
[05:19] <aprilhare> strange: when i double click on a matroska video file in gnome, it opens in totem. however, when i click 'play' on a matroska file in vuze, it opens the video with windows media player (c/o crossover) which isn't helpful given WMP doesn't have the codecs to play them. how do i make vuze forget about the existance of WMP? :)
[05:19] <sam__> Anyway, my ipod just got all deleted. And then i tried to add a song to it and rythymbox just restarted
[05:19] <sam__> exitted rather
[05:19] <rww> Cige: I've used the Vista version of that article a few times and it works great.
[05:19] <Cige> thanks rww, just what i was looking for
[05:19] <roccity> sam__: can you get amarok and try it?
[05:19] <Datz1> Hi, when I try to use Ubuntu live cd on my emachines T2245 when the Desktop GUI starts up, everything goes black.  The same cd works on my other computer though.  Is there a graphics driver problem or something?
[05:19] <trapline91> ZykoticK9, Where do i get dvdcss2
[05:19] <ZykoticK9> trapline91, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu for details, good luck
[05:19] <sam__> whats amarok?
[05:19] <roccity> sam__: or gtkpod
[05:19] <sam__> is it another program for audio
[05:20] <trapline91> ok thank you :D
[05:20] <roccity> sam__: yeah better imo than rhythmbox
[05:20] <jerry1963> I have Xp and Ubuntu both downloaded, I have reinstalled windows bout 7 times now and it still doesnt get over 4 bits on my display, I think it might have been cause I uninstalled my flash player bout a couple weeks back
[05:20] <roccity> sam__: sudo apt-get install amarok
[05:20] <sam__> but what will happen to my music which is gone
[05:20] <sam__> i think its still on my ipod or something
[05:20] <sam__> because
[05:20] <sam__> under Rythymbox
[05:20] <tritium> !enter | sam__
[05:20] <roccity> sam__: you will get some kde deps but its worth it
[05:20] <sam__> theres a section called Missing Files
[05:21] <jerry1963> Ubuntu display works great and so does the sounde but not XP
[05:21] <sam__> and it has all my songs there
[05:21] <sam__> so i dk
[05:21] <FloodBot3> sam__: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:21] <Datz1> Hi, when I try to use Ubuntu live cd on my emachines T2245 when the Desktop GUI starts up, everything goes black.  The same cd works on my other computer though.  Is there a graphics driver problem or something?
[05:22] <jerry1963> Yes Dat, My Xp does that after enabling my default windows driver
[05:22] <roccity> sam__: try amarok
[05:22] <racecar56> i still have no sound
[05:22] <racecar56> amarok for kde
[05:22] <Scunizi> Datz1: before you hit enter to load the gui there should be an option for safe graphics mode or something similar
[05:22] <jerry1963> Not enabling it I mean
[05:22] <TeamColtra[CAM||> I was creating a new partition on my hard drive (for a my /home folder) , but in gparted on the live disk it says that my current partition is around 90somthing gigs of the 110 I gave the partiion.... However when I am here on my stable install... it says the filesystem is only 37.4GB big  which includes my 32.9GB /home
[05:22] <Datz1>  Scunizi, jerry1963: thanks I will try that
[05:23] <jerry1963> Yw Dat
[05:23] <silver_swords> Datz1: i got the same problem when installing ubuntu, but i just wait for a few minutes and it lights up again to continue.
[05:23] <TeamColtra[CAM||> Is there a reason why gparted is grossly over shooting the size of my install? or is there a way I can see where these HUGE folders are located so I can fix it?
[05:23] <roccity> racecar56: whats going on with your sound?
[05:23] <sam__> amarok is installing.
[05:24] <ZykoticK9> Datz1, looks like your not alone with graphics problem with a T2245 http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-984823.html
[05:24] <sam__> I'm so sad/angry/frustrated. why is this happening to me!?!? im a nice guy. ARGHGH
[05:24] <mejobloggs> ZykoticK9: i restarted and its all back :) :) i wonder what happened
[05:24] <Datz1> ZykoticK9, thanks, will take a look
[05:24] <DaveCo> hello
[05:24] <ZykoticK9> mejobloggs, for whatever reason, the drive didn't mount on boot???  don't know why...
[05:24] <roccity> sam__: linux doesn't discriminate :) happens to lots
[05:24] <jerry1963> Im kinda getting used to Ubuntu now but I cant get get Shock player to work after installing it
[05:25] <DaveCo> ziroday
[05:25] <sam__> does amarok support video
[05:25] <ZykoticK9> mejobloggs, well, at least everything is back :)
[05:25] <TeamColtra[CAM||> sam__: Linux doesn't discriminate it hates all of us equally
[05:25] <mejobloggs> ZykoticK9: i was using it! then walked away and came back, and then poof
[05:25] <sam__> cuz that was one thing that sucked about rythym box
[05:25] <ziroday> DaveCo: as in #ubuntu-sg :)
[05:25] <DaveCo> no amarock doesnt like video
[05:25] <roccity> sam__: not that I know of but 2.0 might
[05:25] <racecar56> my sound is 100% dead
[05:25] <DaveCo> oh
[05:25] <DaveCo> sry
[05:25] <sam__> jeez louise. my next computer is gonna be Vista only
[05:25] <Datz1> ZykoticK9: I might also mention that Xubuntu does not have this problem
[05:25] <sam__> this linux stuff is a huge headache
[05:26] <trapline91> ZykoticK9, Ok now it plays for a little while without freezing but I then get "An error occured - Failed to connect stream: OK"
[05:26] <mejobloggs> lol sam i was just thinking something like that too
[05:26] <roccity> sam__: thats sad oh well good luck
[05:26] <tritium> sam__: better than a Vista migraine
[05:26] <sam__> haha
[05:26] <sam__> maybe
[05:26] <TeamColtra[CAM||> sam__ take it from a guy who has switched over from 100% windows to 100% ubuntu its totally worth it... however after I get this partition taken care of I am swithing over to #! Crunchbang
[05:26] <ZykoticK9> Datz1, saw something in that post about disabling compiz???  i really don't know man, i got nothing.  good luck.
[05:26] <silver_swords> sam_: but better than viruses, worms, trojans...
[05:26] <sam__> i mean, if you just invest the money in good hardware, vista isnt bad. too many people compain
[05:26] <TeamColtra[CAM||> :P Mainly because I can swear in the #! Crunchbang channel :P
[05:26] <sam__> it's not that hard to avoid viruses/trojans etc
[05:27] <silver_swords> ha
[05:27] <sam__> vista never deleted 4 thousand of my songs randomly
[05:27] <TeamColtra[CAM||> Neither did ubuntu...
[05:27] <LinuxUser_> Hi all .. i would like to hear you all, if somebody of you know what it is you need to write in Terminal to get the Compliz package manager or what the name is, i cant remember, but in that you can sit Burn on when you close a window :)
[05:27] <TeamColtra[CAM||> You did
[05:27] <TeamColtra[CAM||> compiz-fusion
[05:27] <tritium> sam__: you'll likely find that your files are still there.  You judge prematurely, and blame linux in general, when you should not.
[05:27] <roccity> sam__: maybe Im the only one here but when reading the manual I never had that happen neither
[05:28] <Datz1> ZykoticK9: Yep, noticed that too, if I install I will take that option, thanks
[05:28] <roccity> sam__: cause... well I read how to mount and unmount things in linux
[05:28] <Datz1> right now safe graphics mode is working
[05:28] <sam__> tritium: what should i do.
[05:28] <sam__> haha thanks roccity.
[05:28] <sam__> i have amarok now. now what?
[05:28] <racecar56> my sound is 100% dead
[05:28] <roccity> sam click setup
[05:28] <TeamColtra[CAM||> LinuxUser_: http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-Install-Compiz-Fusion-on-Ubuntu-58113.shtml
[05:28] <ZykoticK9> Datz1, good luck :)  if install does give you problems you could look into the "alternate" install cd, think that was mentioned in that forum post as well, it's a text based install.
[05:28] <tritium> sam__: sorry, I don't have an iPod, so I've never tried what you've done.  But, you can start by not using the Enter key as punctuation.
[05:29] <tritium> racecar56: yes, you've mentioned that about 50 times already
[05:29] <jerry1963> I just wish I could get the aol radio to work again
[05:29] <sam__> yea sorry. its a bad habit i have from using AIM
[05:29] <jerry1963> What did I do?
[05:29] <Datz1> ZykoticK9: Thanks, I will look into that too.  :)
[05:29] <jerry1963> < Pouts:(
[05:30] <TeamColtra[CAM||> sam__: I was able to get music onto my iPHONE (which is 1000X harder than getting it onto an ipod) so it *IS* possible
[05:30] <TeamColtra[CAM||> ^ you simply need to read the steps... step by step... and do exactly what you are told, or you will do something foolish... like delete all the music on your ipod
[05:30] <racecar56> more info: i have a hp pavilion dv9000 laptop with a conexant sound card
[05:31] <sam__> ok. i didnt delte the stuff on purpose. i just plugged the ipod in and no files were found on rythymbox. im not some computer noob.
[05:32] <TeamColtra[CAM||> sam__: :P You *WERE* just arguing for _WINDOWS_ I had to assume. ;-)
[05:32] <sam__> im a bit emotional
[05:33] <sam__> Those 4k songs were with my since i was but a wee young lad.
[05:33] <TeamColtra[CAM||> Trust me, I understand how it goes... I am about to do a huge step in moving from ubuntu to crunchbang and know I am going to lose some of my files.. I always forget to do something
[05:34] <silver_swords> ok my turn.. anyone can browse their windows mobile 6 with bluetooth?
[05:34] <trapline91> I installed the medibuntu package and I still can not seem to get the DVD to play back. I wonder if the problem has to do with /etc/fstab or something
[05:34] <tritium> sam__: and you have them backed up, or in your iTunes on your windows install, right?
[05:34] <Scunizi> TeamColtra[CAM||: why not just load the windows manager that crunchbang uses?
[05:34] <TeamColtra[CAM||> :P Which is why I am trying to find out why my partition is showing that it has more space used up than it acutally does in gparted
[05:34] <ZykoticK9> trapline91, did you install libdvdcss2?
[05:34] <trapline91> ZykoticK9, Yes
[05:34] <silver_swords> anyone?  =)
[05:34] <sam__> i have a bunch of songs there
[05:34] <sam__> not all of them are on windows though.
[05:35] <trapline91> ZykoticK9, But I think the problem has to do with my fstab configuration since I don't see my second DVD player in it
[05:35] <TeamColtra[CAM||> Scunizi because there is more to it than just the beautiful windows manager that #! uses.
[05:35] <silver_swords> sam_.. go drink some beer, you'll feel ok after.
[05:35] <ZykoticK9> trapline91, do you have "mplayer" installed on your system?  if so try "mplayer dvd://1" -- nothing to do with fstab for dvd playback really, dvd's aren't really mounted to play them.
[05:35] <TeamColtra[CAM||> there are the files that make up crunchbang (which admittedly share alot alike with ubuntu obviously)
[05:35] <qcjn> hi, i tried to install sonata latest version..didn't work..can somebody help me to get back the the old version ?
[05:36] <trapline91> ZykoticK9, Can't find it
[05:36] <trapline91> ZykoticK9, It doesn't seem to find my DVD in my second DVD player only in my first
[05:36] <ZykoticK9> trapline91, libdvdcss2??? what can't you find?
[05:37] <trapline91> ZykoticK9, Its not reconizing the DVD in my dvd player
[05:37] <ZykoticK9> trapline91, so you can play dvds in one drive and not the other???  just trying to get some clarification.
[05:37] <trapline91> ZykoticK9, correct
[05:37] <silver_swords> anybody got to browse their wm6 with bluetooth? =)
[05:38] <silver_swords>  i keep getting "Could not display "obex://[xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx]/".
[05:38] <quibbler> trapline91: problem i not playing DVD, but a dead drive!
[05:39] <ZykoticK9> trapline91, OK the problem is that /dev/dvd is a pointer to a specific drive if you do "ls -l /dev/dvd" it will show you which physical drive it's pointing too.  but if you can play in one drive - i'm done.  good luck man.
[05:39] <trapline91> quibbler,  the drive works fine when burning CD's
[05:40] <trapline91> ZykoticK9, how do i point it to the other drive
[05:40] <quibbler> trapline91: maybe it is a CD burner and oit a DVD reader
[05:40] <quibbler> not
[05:40] <ZykoticK9> trapline91, sorry man i'm done, someone else might help with that.
[05:40] <trapline91> quibbler, no its both i know since it played dvd's on windows back in the day
[05:40] <trapline91> ZykoticK9, thanks for your help :D
[05:41] <silver_swords> bluetooth anyone?
[05:42] <silver_swords> good luck all.
[05:43] <ZykoticK9> silver_swords, does the wm6 (whatever that is) have an obex server running?  this would be the error if i tried to connect to a headset, as it doesn't have a file sharing service obviously.  i'm afraid i'm not any more help on bluetooth - never had any luck with it on Ubuntu :(  good luck
[05:44] <frodubuntu> I have apparently messed up the dependencies for my openoffice
[05:44] <frodubuntu> and I can't seem to install it
[05:44] <frodubuntu> can someone help me identify which could be the program?
[05:45] <sebsebseb> frodubuntu: Open Office comes as part of Ubuntu
[05:45] <rww> frodubuntu: can you post the command you're trying to use, and the entire output (including errors) from it to http://paste.ubuntu.com/, then link to the paste page it creates here, please?
[05:45] <frodubuntu> racecar56: thanks
[05:48] <bthornton> does anybody know if it's possible to remotely administer a Mac (Leopard) box from a Linux machine?
[05:48] <trapline91> Well seems I got the DVD to play but now It won't let me go to the DVD menu so I have to wait through all the commercials...
[05:48] <sebsebseb> bthornton: it it possible
[05:48] <sebsebseb> bthornton: is that over  a network or over the Internet?
[05:48] <ZykoticK9> bthornton, you could look into VNC, just a suggestion
[05:48] <bthornton> sebsebseb: over a network
[05:48] <frodubuntu> well I got it
[05:49] <sebsebseb> bthornton: yeah VNC  over your  LAN it should be ok without encryption, but if you were to use on Internet you should tunnel it over SSH
[05:49] <azlon_> is there a program similar to activesync that will let me connect to my phone?
[05:49] <frodubuntu> I wen't into synaptic and removed first everything that had openoffice in it
[05:49] <bthornton> I'm currently using NX for remote Linux which I really like (it's fast even over the 'net)
[05:49] <Diehardy> are there any South African channels?
[05:49] <frodubuntu> and then just was able to run the apt-get install openoffice.org
[05:49] <racecar56> what do i do to fix my sound? it dosen't work, i have tried restarting X and restarting the whole system, and it does not work
[05:49] <sebsebseb> bthornton: NX may work on Mac also I don't know, don't have a Mac
[05:49] <bthornton> if it's Mac to Mac, iChat has a really good remote desktop protocol that's fast, but I'm not sure if there's a Linux client for it?
[05:49] <bthornton> it doesn't I checked :(
[05:49] <rww> bthornton: For VNC, Mac System Preferences > Sharing > Screen Sharing > Computer Settings... > [X] VNC viewers may control screen with password: _______, then hit OK and enable Screen Sharing. Then use Remote Desktop Viewer on the Ubuntu machine.
[05:49] <sebsebseb> bthornton: ok use VNC
[05:50] <ariqs> I want to install ubuntu on a usb drive on a laptop, will that work?
[05:50] <bthornton> okay thanks rww and sebsebseb
[05:50] <sebsebseb> bthornton: and if your going to do it over the Internet make sure to tunnel it over  SSH, so it's secure
[05:50] <frodubuntu> yeah, but a bit slower
[05:50] <ZykoticK9> ariqs, yes but it's slow off usb
[05:50] <ariqs> will a 4 gig stick do?
[05:51] <sebsebseb> !usb
[05:51] <sebsebseb> yep  4GB is more than enough
[05:51] <sebsebseb> for that
[05:51] <rww> Diehardy: There's an Ubuntu South Africa LoCo channel at #ubuntu-za. Not sure if it's active, though.
[05:51] <ariqs> thanks.
[05:52] <sebsebseb> CompuHacker: Cracker/Blackhat  or  Hacker/programmer ?
[05:52] <CompuHacker> Gentlemen.
[05:52] <Diehardy> thanks
[05:52] <bthornton> wooow VNC is slow :p
[05:53] <sebsebseb> bthornton:   NX
[05:53] <CompuHacker> Both :3
[05:53] <sebsebseb> bthornton: how do you do it?
[05:53] <mejobloggs> if i do apt-get install sensors-applet, it installs, but i can't find it in the menu to run it. Also, I tried looking in the package manager thing, and it doesnt show there?? Weird
[05:53] <bthornton> this thing is slower over 802.11g than NX is over the 'net
[05:53] <sebsebseb> bthornton: also you can hear the sounds of the system your remote conecting with that can't you?
[05:53] <sebsebseb> bthornton: yeah VNC can be  a bit slow
[05:53] <sebsebseb> bthornton: ,but it works quite well for me most of the time over net on my  SSH
[05:54] <bthornton> sebsebseb: that's why I was trying to see if there was a better way. so as far as SSH go--do you mean that you just remotely execute X apps over SSH? or can you get a full desktop that way?
[05:54] <sebsebseb> bthornton: I mean remote connect other peoples compuers using  the net, when  VNC is tunneled over SSH so it's encrypted
[05:54] <sebsebseb> bthornton: VNC on it's own is not secure on the net
[05:55] <bthornton> oh I gotcha
[05:55] <bthornton> yeah I've got no need to talk to this thing over the 'net, but good to know
[05:55] <sebsebseb> bthornton: how do you do NX?????
[05:55] <sebsebseb> bthornton: and you can hear the sounds of the system you remote connect?
[05:56] <todd> cpmpiz ==> Fatal: Compiz can't be ran using VESA or VGA divers.
[05:56] <todd> any ideas?
[05:56] <quibbler> mejobloggs: right click on panel add hardware sensors monitor
[05:56] <bthornton> sebsebseb: Sound is supposed to be possible with NX but I haven't tried it.
[05:56] <racecar56> i am tired of no sound.. what is up with this
[05:56] <bthornton> sebsebseb: as for how I do it? I just downloaded the server and client from http://www.nomachine.com/
[05:56] <sebsebseb> bthornton: how do you do NX,  I tried  http://www.nomachine.com installed that, and was able to open another account up on this computer.  that's as far as I got
[05:57] <sebsebseb> bthornton: yeah I don't really know how nomachine works yet
[05:57] <mejobloggs> quibbler: cant even find it to add
[05:57] <sebsebseb> bthornton: I was thinking maybe use as a replacmeent for VNC, if I knew how to use NX better
[05:57] <bthornton> sebsebseb: I never needed to do anythign more than install the debs, but I do know that you need openssh installed...
[05:57] <quibbler> mejobloggs: that is what sensors-applet is.
[05:58] <ZykoticK9> todd, in order for Compiz to be workable in any way you really need a graphics card driver installed, using the built in VESA or VGA isn't really sufficient to get compiz running well...
[05:58] <bthornton> sebsebseb: Yes, I highly recommend that over VNC if you're going to remotely administer a Linux box
[05:58] <mejobloggs> quibbler: yeah, but its not there
[05:58] <sebsebseb> bthornton: well VNC works well,  but NX  may be better
[05:58] <capnquirk> hello Ubuntans
[05:58] <quibbler> mejobloggs: logout/in and check again
[05:59] <bthornton> sebsebseb: it is, trust me :)
[05:59] <wolter> hi again
[05:59] <bthornton> sebsebseb: on a 768 Kbps link over the 'net, an NX session feels just as responsive as if I were sitting at the machine
[05:59] <wolter> is there a client that permits me to send files to other computers connected on the local network directly?
[05:59] <todd> ZykoticK9,you are right,and I have installed this xserver-xorg-video-intel,no how to change the mode?
[05:59] <bthornton> and it's secure
[05:59] <wolter> compatible with mac and windows, preferably.
[05:59] <capnquirk> you mean like ftp wolter?
[05:59] <RPS> ziroday, are you still hanging out there?
[06:00] <wolter> capnquirk, more like ip.
[06:00] <wolter> capnquirk, i have ftp, but it doesn't work every time.
[06:00] <sebsebseb> bthornton: well I get that a lot of the time with  VNC, when connected to  peoples computers.   ,but  VNC can be  be a bit slow times
[06:00] <ziroday> RPS: barely
[06:00] <lwizardl> hi
[06:00] <capnquirk> it doesn't work on your local network every time? how bizarre
[06:00] <wolter> capnquirk, the ideal thing would be somethink like giver, but for mac and windows too...
[06:00] <sebsebseb> hi wizard
[06:00] <ZykoticK9> todd, i'd start by just restarting X and see what the Automatic X does, but you may need to manually set the xorg.conf file to use the intel driver - afraid I don't know the specifics...
[06:01] <lwizardl> is there a channel for ubuntu on laptops or is this also the support channel?
[06:01] <rohan> hi guys just wanted to know if i can use ubuntu for some real eye cnady6
[06:01] <wolter> capnquirk, yeah... well, I tell people to enter my ftp://computername.local
[06:01] <wolter> but doesn't always work.
[06:01] <sebsebseb> wizard this is the suppourt channel
[06:01] <sebsebseb> !support
[06:01] <capnquirk> ah, that is the problem you are using zeroconf names. if you try ftp://ipaddress it will always work
[06:02] <todd> ZykoticK9, thank you all the same,but you said I am not using the intel driver?
[06:02] <endersnewhope> I turned off automatic login and the setting below (wait to login i think), now when the login screen appears it immediately says failed to authenticate
[06:02] <endersnewhope> is there a way to reverse it?
[06:02] <RPS> ziroday, I tried changing the setting and it locked up my pc, so I called an Asus tech and he told me the info the guy left me was spot-on, but that I would have to do a reinstall to use it, so now its back up time and then I'll pull the trigger on it.
[06:02] <wolter> capnquirk, but there is no ip send file application that you know off?
[06:02] <ZykoticK9> todd, Not sure?  but the error message you origionally gave said VESA and VGA, neither of which are any good for Compiz
[06:02] <ziroday> RPS: awesome
[06:03] <RPS> ziroday, I just retoggled my bios settings back and everything is fine
[06:03] <capnquirk> there are many ways to send files over an ip netwrok
[06:03] <racecar56> i am still having no sound
[06:03] <ziroday> RPS: so it all works?
[06:03] <sebsebseb> !sound
[06:03] <racecar56> never mind
[06:03] <racecar56> my speakers are WEIRD
[06:03] <RPS> well it will all work when I go thru the steps
[06:04] <lwizardl> ok I have a Tablet PC a Toshiba Portege M200 anyone know how I set Ubuntu to detect when I set my screen to portrait mode?
[06:04] <ziroday> RPS: it sounds like you have a buggy/crappy/incompatible sata controller
[06:04] <racecar56> lol
[06:04] <RPS> on an Asus computer ...how sad is that
[06:04] <Daremonai> Has anyone tried upsmon on ubuntu? I can't get it to detect my UPS (I got it from: http://www.alwayson.com/upsmon.html)
[06:08] <Nytrix> any1 alive?
[06:08] <capnquirk> no
[06:08] <sebsebseb> no
[06:08] <DarkSotM> zombie
[06:08] <endersnewhope> does anyone know a way to bypass the login screen, it won't give me time to enter a password, it immediately says failed to authenticate
[06:08] <Nytrix> mmmk
[06:08] <drackmere> vampite
[06:08] <drackmere> re
[06:08] <sebsebseb> vampire
[06:08] <capnquirk> lich
[06:08] <drackmere> troll?
[06:08] <lwizardl> ghoul
[06:09] <LordFDisk> I'm in sleep mode
[06:09] <lwizardl> anyone know how I set Ubuntu to detect when I switch my screen to portrait mode?
[06:09] <Nytrix> !password
[06:10] <Nytrix> endersnewhope, can u still login though?
[06:10] <endersnewhope> only from a bash prompt
[06:10] <endersnewhope> in recovery mode
[06:10] <RoastedTiresX> whos a genius with crontab?
[06:11] <Nytrix> !crontab
[06:11] <capnquirk> does it really take a genius?
[06:11] <RoastedTiresX> capnquirk - that's what I thought
[06:11] <RoastedTiresX> until I set up crontab to run my backup script and it somehow erased everything on my backup drive
[06:11] <flippo> If that's all it takes, I'm going to study hard.
[06:11] <capnquirk> ouch
[06:11] <RoastedTiresX> I dont know where I went wrong
[06:12] <RoastedTiresX> one sec I'll paste my entry in crontab
[06:12] <LordFDisk> doh
[06:12] <flippo> Rsync from an empty directory?
[06:13] <NDS|Brandon> My Hard Drive hates me :p
[06:13] <RoastedTiresX> no, flippo. I have a bin bash script with the rsync commands in it.
[06:13] <RoastedTiresX> I was setting up crontab to simply execute the backup script.
[06:13] <capnquirk> try buying it some flowers brandon
[06:13] <NDS|Brandon> Didnt work :\
[06:13] <Louis> hi is there a way to find out what my peak system load is via CLI?
[06:14] <capnquirk> top should show that Louis
[06:14] <quibbler> NDS|Brandon: have you had a really sincere talk with it?
[06:14] <Nytrix> endersnewhope, let me see if i can find a solution
[06:14] <NDS|Brandon> Its cables are loose it over heats, and it cant be formated by normal means
[06:14] <Louis> capnquirk:  i found average load on top, but not peak... maybe i'm blind... lol
[06:14] <NDS|Brandon> I have to delete the partion and remake it, then use MSDOS to Convert it
[06:14] <RoastedTiresX> flippo - I can do that right? If I want to automate rsync, do I have to have the rsync commands in crontab? or can I just have crontab execute my already existent rsync binbash script?
[06:15] <fr500> RoastedTiresX: either of them
[06:15] <Louis> also, in top, what are the three numbers after "load average" for?  I have this:  load average: 0.16, 0.30, 0.23
[06:16] <RoastedTiresX> 55 0	* * *	root	sudo backup
[06:16] <RoastedTiresX> whats wrong with that?
[06:16] <capnquirk> Load average over 1, 5, and 15 minutes
[06:16] <RoastedTiresX> how did that entry erase my backup drive?
[06:16] <flippo> RoastedTiresX, I'd be more concerned about what is in the script
[06:16] <Nytrix> ender, try to enable automatic login
[06:16] <RoastedTiresX> flippo - the script works. I've used it for 3 years manually.
[06:16] <capnquirk> yeah it's the script that did it roasted
[06:16] <RoastedTiresX> too bad the script didn't do it
[06:16] <fr500> RoastedTiresX: you should better edit the root's crontab, sudo crontab -e
[06:16] <flippo> RoastedTiresX, yes, but it was running in a root environment
[06:16] <RoastedTiresX> the script is the same it's been for 3 years
[06:17] <capnquirk> so what else changed?
[06:17] <flippo> RoastedTiresX, how is the source directory specified?
[06:17] <RoastedTiresX> capnquirk - crontab. That's it.
[06:17] <RoastedTiresX> flippo - source is ~/
[06:17] <RoastedTiresX> home dir
[06:17] <flippo> RoastedTiresX, that's it
[06:17] <capnquirk> crontab can't erase drives by itself
[06:17] <flippo> RoastedTiresX, root has an empty home dir
[06:17] <Nytrix> endersnewhope, try to enable automatic login
[06:17] <RoastedTiresX> bingo then
[06:17] <fr500> RoastedTiresX: you're backing up root's home
[06:17] <RoastedTiresX> haaaaa
[06:17] <RoastedTiresX> root and home are on separate partitions
[06:17] <fr500> you needn't use sudo in this case
[06:18] <RoastedTiresX> even if I have home on a separate partition, my root partition still has its own home dir?
[06:18] <geekbr> RoastedTiresX: nice it
[06:18] <flippo> RoastedTiresX, specify the full path
[06:18] <geekbr> rodserling: if the system broke, your home still intact
[06:19] <Nytrix> !seen endersnewhope
[06:19] <JMVN> I want ubuntu use swaps when use at lest 90% of Ram. How to do that
[06:20] <sebsebseb> !swap
[06:22] <RoastedTiresX> crontab wise, does this look good to you guys? Need it to run everyday every week every month "sudo backup"
[06:22] <RoastedTiresX> 55 1	* * *	root	sudo backup
[06:22] <RoastedTiresX> 1:55 I'll change later if this works
[06:27] <endersnewhope> is there a command i can run at a bash prompt in recovery mode to boot up and get into the graphical desktop?
[06:28] <endersnewhope> beuller
[06:29] <Nytrix> endersnewhope, try to enable automatic login
[06:30] <DarkSotM> !tor
[06:30] <endersnewhope> can i enable automitic login from the prompt?  i can't login to the desktop at all
[06:30] <maru> yea
[06:30] <maru> yea
[06:30] <inktri> someone who knows R fast... how do you get the first 10 rows of a data frame?
[06:30] <RoastedTiresX> when Im setting up crontab, does the user have to be root? or would it work better ran as my username?
[06:30] <Nytrix> in command line type startx
[06:31] <endersnewhope> just startx
[06:31] <endersnewhope> then reboot
[06:31] <Nytrix> yeah
[06:31] <Nytrix> no
[06:31] <inktri> nm got it lol
[06:31] <Nytrix> it should start the gui
[06:31] <Nytrix> just type startx and see if gui loads up
[06:32] <endersnewhope> should i run it as root or as my user account?
[06:32] <Nytrix> try use acc 1st
[06:32] <Nytrix> user*
[06:32] <endersnewhope> ok, thanks
[06:33] <JMVN> I don't want to start apache when ubuntu startup. How to do
[06:33] <pawan1234> hi
[06:33] <pawan1234> how to install latest version of firefox
[06:33] <pawan1234> !firefox
[06:33] <ZykoticK9> JMVN, System / Admin / Services / uncheck Web Server (apache2)
[06:34] <JMVN> Thanks!
[06:34] <pawan1234> hi
[06:35] <danbhfive> anyone know how to create a new task installable via tasksel?
[06:35] <pawan1234> how to install tar.bz2 file
[06:35] <Nytrix> !tasksel
[06:35] <JMVN> how to use "Hard disk turning"
[06:35] <Nytrix> !task
[06:35] <Nytrix> !turning
[06:36] <quibbler> pawan1234: read this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingEasyHowTo
[06:37] <Nytrix> danh, http://ubuntuguide.org
[06:37] <Nytrix> everyone visit http://ubuntuguide.org for HELP
[06:38] <Nytrix> ender, did it work?
[06:38] <sebsebseb> Nytrix: heh I known about that site for ages
[06:38] <Nytrix> not too bad huh
[06:39] <danbhfive> or, does anyone know how tasks are created in the first place?  ( I guess that's the same question)
[06:39] <Jose_Gaspar> hello, is there a way to update ubuntu's man pages? like say i typed ifconfig man, no response, i know i can do --help but want more details on what each variable does
[06:39] <danbhfive> Jose_Gaspar: did you try: man ifconfig  ?
[06:40] <quibbler> Jose_Gaspar: try man ifconfig
[06:40] <Jose_Gaspar> danbhfive: ahhhhhh ok, i feel stupid.. i was typing the opposite order
[06:40] <Jose_Gaspar> lol thanks
[06:40] <grape-ape> whats the easiest way to install a new theme?
[06:41] <danbhfive> !themes | grape-ape
[06:41] <DaveCo> still low graphics
[06:42] <quibbler> grape-ape: dropping the tar file on the theme tab of preferences-Appearences
[06:42] <grape-ape> what type of theme do i download? gtk 2.x?
[06:43] <quibbler> grape-ape: if you use gnome yes
[06:44] <pawan1234> hi
[06:44] <sebsebseb> hi
[06:44] <sebsebseb> pawan1234: hi
[06:44] <grape-ape> do you use gnome or kde?
[06:45] <pawan1234> how to manually install firefox
[06:45] <quibbler> grape-ape: also read this:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[06:45] <pawan1234> deb file
[06:45] <geekbr> pawan1234: get the firefox at the oficial file, and put it /usr/local/firefox
[06:45] <quibbler> pawan1234: why firefox is installed by default
[06:46] <geekbr> quibbler: because it are us IE
[06:46] <endersnewhope> startx booted in but froze with unable to load hal, and another module unable to load.  under root, there was no screen but the login sound played. thanks for your help, its late and goodnight all.  i'll try again tomorow
[06:46] <pawan1234> then
[06:46] <racecar56> firefox pwns IE thats why
[06:46] <racecar56> bye
[06:46] <racecar56> i have to go too
[06:47] <quibbler> geekbr: because it are us IE???
[06:47] <RPS> Hello Guys, I was experimenting with the KDE side of things today and I rebooted back into Gnome (I rebooted the computer) and I have no sound. Could someone help me see if we can jump start my sound?
[06:48] <RoastedTiresX> when Im setting up crontab, does the user have to be root? or would it work better ran as my username?
[06:48] <onats> is there a way to turn on webcams via command line?
[06:48] <capnquirk> each user has their own crontab file
[06:48] <geekbr> quibbler: for linux comunity Firefox represent what's Ie do by microsoft ..
[06:49] <RoastedTiresX> capnquirk - so should I set it up with jason? or root?
[06:49] <RPS> does that look right?  sudo /etc/init.d/hal restart
[06:49] <sebsebseb> RPS: that's not for sound
[06:49] <quibbler> geekbr: pawan1234  is in windows?
[06:50] <sebsebseb> !sound | RPS
[06:50] <RPS> dang I picked the wrong one .lol
[06:50] <RoastedTiresX> capnquirk -  this? 55 1	* * * 	jason	sudo backup
[06:50] <sebsebseb> !hal
[06:50] <RoastedTiresX> or should it be root sudo backup?
[06:50] <geekbr> quibbler: firefox are the most important for us dude
[06:50] <turtle_> although it seems antiquated typing the name each time but its quicker than e-mail
[06:50] <RPS> I see no sound icon listed on the task bar
[06:50] <geekbr> quibbler: since the end off your father
[06:52] <A-KO> I'm trying to setup ProFTPD. I've mirrored most of my configuration from another linux server I have setup but I'm unable to authenticate and login. It sends the user, then tells me a password is required, sends the password, then says Login incorrect and disconnects me. There's no error in the logs that I can find. Does anyone have any idea?
[06:52] <Nytrix> RPS right click on task bar then add sound icon
[06:52] <Nytrix> click "add to panel"
[06:53] <quibbler> geekbr:  i am your father...........i've been using firefox since before it was firefox
[06:53] <ZykoticK9> firebird, wow i almost forgot about that :)
[06:54] <quibbler> ZykoticK9: earlier
[06:54] <ZykoticK9> quibbler, what you started with Mosaic???
[06:57] <quibbler> ZykoticK9: i never used ie first netscape opera and looked at phoenix firebird firefox and still love it
[06:57] <pawan1234> how to install firefox in 8.10
[06:57] <pawan1234> i want a deb file not a tar.bz2
[06:59] <Nytrix> pawan1234, try www.GetDeb.net
[06:59] <quibbler> pawan1234: apt-get install firefox
[07:00] <Louis> what do the 2 numbers at the end of an fstab line mean?  Mine is:  UUID=3dad02e3-ada7-448e-aa6e-4c3bab0dbc27 /               xfs     noatime,nodiratime,allocsize=512m,logbufs=8        0       1
[07:00] <Nytrix> apt-get install firefox
[07:00] <Nytrix> :)
[07:01] <pawan1234> not on getdeb
[07:01] <pawan1234> my current version is 3.0.3
[07:02] <onats> !echi_hcd
[07:02] <pawan1234> what is the latest version
[07:02] <ZykoticK9> pawan1234, after todays update i got 3.0.7 (on ubuntu 8.10)
[07:03] <Gambit-> hey guys
[07:03] <pawan1234> how do u got it
[07:03] <pawan1234> i too want
[07:03] <Gambit-> friend of mine screwed up his compiz configuration, how does he go about setting it back to defaults?
[07:03] <Gambit-> he's on 8.10
[07:04] <trevor> Hey. I realize that this may be a long shot, but I was hoping that I might be able to get some help with gparted. I've been dual booting ubuntu/vista, and I have been trying to give myself some more space to work with in ubuntu, I just have a few questions if someone wouldn't mind chatting with me privately....or publicly if it's cool.
[07:04] <Gambit-> thanks grape-ape, do you want me to version you back?
[07:07] <Crshman> Has anyone experienced windows freezing/not responding when maximized or made too large? I run the 180 nvidia drivers and a twinview dual screen setup with compiz enabled.....and eventually my windows will stop responding when I open them all the way....it's not application specific either
[07:08] <pawan1234> how to install tar.bz2 file
[07:08] <Louis> pawan1234:  are you trying to install from source?
[07:08] <Nytrix> !ask
[07:09] <Louis> pawan1234:  actually, what are you trying to install?
[07:09] <Crshman> pawan1234: tar -jzxvf <filename>.tar.bz2
[07:09] <ZykoticK9> pawan1234, tar.bz2 just tells us that it's a compressed file...  what are you actually installing.
[07:09] <Crshman> -jxvf*
[07:09] <Nytrix> Gam, there is an option in compiz to set back to defaults
[07:10] <Louis> hey guys, I need a quick sanity check:  if my bsize (as reported by xfs_info /dev/md2) is bsize=4096, that means I have 4kb blocks right?
[07:11] <olive_cre_popeye> bh
[07:11] <H3l1c0pt3r> Louis, sounds right
[07:11] <Louis> H3l1c0pt3r:  thanks
[07:11] <ZykoticK9> Gambit- ccsm / Preferences / Reset to defaults button
[07:13] <pawan1234> firefox
[07:14] <azlon_> what is a good GPS map software?
[07:14] <Guest35974> Hello?
[07:14] <H3l1c0pt3r> !hi
[07:14] <Louis> hey guys i'm NOTORIOUSLY bad at math, and I'm trying to figure out how to do the calculations for this article.  I have a block size of 4kb and I need to calculate my sunit and swidth.  Can anybody help me figure this out?
[07:14] <Crshman> azlon_: what kind of GPS? Would google earth do the trick?
[07:15] <Louis> article here:  http://www.socalsysadmin.com/2008/10/15/optimizing-xfs-on-raid-arrays/
[07:15] <lostxion> having a problem with my OS, likes to force quit my Internet exploration often when making requests, how might i fix this any one please...
[07:15] <RPS> by the way I got my sound working ...thanks
[07:15] <azlon_> hrmm... i would prefer something where i can keep the maps on my system... can i download the maps from google earth for offline use?
[07:15] <JPSman> Trying to determine on friends computer if the firewire is detected by ubuntu or not, what command do I use?
[07:15] <capnquirk> lost, have you tried another browser?
[07:15] <H3l1c0pt3r> Louis, math is hard, I can't even add stuff without a calculator
[07:16] <Louis> JPSman:  lspci would be my first guest
[07:16] <Crshman> azlon_: what kind of gps unit do you have? garmin? I run garmin mapsource in a vmware server windows xp vm and that works great
[07:16] <Louis> H3l1c0pt3r:  i'm glad i'm not alone lol
[07:16] <Crshman> azlon_: vmware server passes my usb device to the vm so I can download/upload directly to my GPS unit
[07:16] <Louis> If I ever engineer a bridge... don't use it... you'll die
[07:16]  * H3l1c0pt3r punches math in the face
[07:16] <pawan1234> given tar command now
[07:16] <azlon_> Crshman: im running a Mini 9 netbook with 8GB SSD, need something that uses few resources...
[07:17] <Crshman> azlon_: ah.....yeah that's going to be a tough one.....I have yet to find a "good" solution for it....I offloaded all my GPS requirements to my desktop that has a lot of space on it =(
[07:17] <azlon_> Crshman: im also using a bluetooth gps unit, so that will be a headache getting it to work im sure
[07:17] <Crshman> azlon_: and wine isn't the best for mapsource
[07:18] <azlon_> :(
[07:18] <lostxion> been using fire fox and am going to stick to it, happened after a "upgrade" or what ever you might want to call it
[07:18] <Crshman> azlon_: does the bluetooth connection show up as a serial connection to your computer? if so it shouldn't be too too bad given the current release of blueman
[07:18] <Crshman> lostxion: have you tried creating a new profile?
[07:18] <azlon_> i havent tried yet, but im pretty sure it does
[07:18] <azlon_> seems like it did in XP
[07:18] <Louis> can anybody help me figure out the sunit for my RAID0 array?
[07:19] <H3l1c0pt3r> Louis, how many disks  on the RADI0
[07:19] <Crshman> Louis: are you referring to the chunk size for the array?
[07:19] <H3l1c0pt3r> what is your stripe size
[07:19] <azlon_> Crshman: any suggestions for something that will work like ActiveSync for my phone?
[07:19] <Louis> Crshman:  yes
[07:19] <Louis> H3l1c0pt3r:  2 disks
[07:20] <Louis> H3l1c0pt3r:  no idea.  I know my block size is 4 kb (bsize = 4096)
[07:20] <Crshman> Louis: I have a 7 disk multi TB software raid on my box with xfs on top, I found that after various testing a 64 bit chunk was the best for my needs.....the chunk size is highly dependent on what oyu plan to do with it
[07:20] <Crshman> azlon_: There is an app out there that will sync your phone, I tried it with my WM moto q9h but the name evades me right now
[07:20] <Louis> Crshman:  i might be over my head lol.  This is for recording live tv.
[07:21] <Crshman> azlon_: try some google searching for windows mobile and ubuntu
[07:21] <H3l1c0pt3r> Louis, that block size seems low compared to the ones in the site, maybe its 4096 kb, aka 4mb
[07:21] <azlon_> thanks
[07:21] <Louis> H3l1c0pt3r:  could be.  I was actually wondering what the units were...
[07:22] <Crshman> here is my array:
[07:22] <Crshman> md0 : active raid6 sdi1[0] sdg1[5] sdd1[4] sda1[3] sde1[2] sdf1[1]
[07:22] <Crshman>       3907039744 blocks level 6, 64k chunk, algorithm 2 [6/6] [UUUUUU]
[07:22] <H3l1c0pt3r> 64kb chunks
[07:22] <Louis> H3l1c0pt3r:  i have 64kb chunks?
[07:22] <Louis> how do you know?
[07:22] <H3l1c0pt3r> Louis, oh that is... Crshman nvm HHA
[07:23] <Louis> lol
[07:23] <H3l1c0pt3r> didnt read nick name
[07:23] <Crshman> H3l1c0pt3r: yes sorry, I said bit in my first response
[07:23] <Crshman> haha
[07:23] <Louis> Crshman:  how did you get that information?
[07:23] <ss_> hi i m on ubuntu 8.10...using banshee as music player but unable to add .rm audio files in music library it gives tablib error can sm1 tell me how can i solve it?
[07:23] <Crshman> Louis: I did a lot of research on raid arrays....FAR too much for my own good....it's a really complex thing
[07:23] <Louis> haha yeah i'm thinking that maybe i should leave well enoug alone
[07:24] <Louis> the more i dig the more complicated it is
[07:24] <Crshman> Louis: but general consensus....for a crap load of small files, 32kb fits the bill....for a lot of large files 64k+ is good
[07:24] <lostxion> lol i feel behind the times like the man standing at the back of a riot..... sitting there saying "hey shit man were in a riot..... oh yeah...... shit man we are in a riot"...... i mean by this i dont understand what it is that i am reading
[07:24] <rww> !ohmy > lostxion
[07:24] <H3l1c0pt3r> sunit=8192 swidth=2x8192 (?)
[07:24] <Louis> Crshman:  my files probably average some 400mb.  they're all .avi movies and recorded shows
[07:24] <Crshman> 64kb should be fine
[07:24] <H3l1c0pt3r> sounds like huge blocks
[07:24] <Crshman> my server holds a bunch of HD movies
[07:24] <Crshman> 32 would be good too
[07:24] <Crshman> I stream on average 4 or 5 hd movies at once from my box
[07:24] <Crshman> it handles fine
[07:25] <Louis> Crshman:  so how would I change that to 64kb?
[07:25] <Crshman> it is done when you create the array
[07:25] <H3l1c0pt3r> Crshman, can you relay "The sunit is measured in 512-byte block units (from the mount man page), so for a 64kB block size your sunit=128, for 256kB use sunit=512." in simpler terms
[07:25] <pawan1234> how to install latest version of firefox
[07:25] <pawan1234> anybody have deb file please give
[07:25] <Crshman> the only way to change it after you create the array is to blow the array away and start over, kinda sux
[07:25] <Louis> H3l1c0pt3r:  yes that's what i was having trouble with as well
[07:25] <pawan1234> 3.0.7
[07:25] <Louis> Crshman:  oh.  nvm then...
[07:26] <Crshman> pawan1234: sudo apt-get install firefox-3.0
[07:26] <Crshman> Louis: yeah....I did a great deal of research before putting all my data onto this software raid
[07:26] <rww> pawan1234: The current version of Firefox in Hardy, Intrepid, and Jaunty /is/ 3.0.7. If you don't have it through Update Manager yet, you will soon.
[07:26] <Crshman> I wanted to be sure it would work
[07:26] <Crshman> but i've done it all on my array
[07:27] <Louis> Crshman:  yeah, i didn't lol =)   I'm going to have to start from scratch anyway in a few months so i'll probably do the research then
[07:27] <Crshman> hot swap disks, in december I swapped all my old 320Gb drives to 1Tb drives LIVE
[07:27] <husayn> what was the command to mount iso image on kubuntu
[07:27] <H3l1c0pt3r> pawan1234, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion
[07:27] <Louis> Crshman:  are there any other performance tweaks i can do to a raid array?
[07:27] <husayn> t was like  sudo mount -o loop  something like that
[07:27] <rww> !iso | husayn
[07:27] <Crshman> and in feb I migrated from a raid 5 to a raid 6 LIVE
[07:27] <Crshman> the only real performance tweak is the chunk size, how much you read at once
[07:27] <Crshman> there are other tweaks but the benefits to work ratio is shitty
[07:28] <Louis> Crshman:  I see.  when you changed the block size then.  Did you do this during installation?  like as you were configuring the lvm?
[07:28] <Crshman> well I don't run an LVM on my array anymore
[07:28] <Crshman> but you have a block size at the array level and at the LVM level
[07:28] <Crshman> generally want to keep them the same for best perfomance
[07:29] <Louis> Crshman:  now i'm lost.  Didn't you say you used software RAID?
[07:29] <Crshman> I do
[07:29] <Louis> doesn't that work throught the lvm?
[07:29] <Crshman> software raid != lvm
[07:29] <pawan1234> hi
[07:29] <Crshman> I do
[07:29] <pawan1234> firefox
[07:29] <Crshman> but I don't see the need for an lvm atop of the SW raid
[07:29] <Crshman> i just created a straight xfs on my array
[07:29] <Louis> ooooh. okay. yeah sorry i was unclear
[07:30] <Louis> I did the same.  I just have 2 disks set to RAID0 with xfs on them
[07:30] <Crshman> pawan1234: installing firefox was explained already, if you need more help google it
[07:30] <pawan1234> ok
[07:30] <Louis> Crshman:  I'm a bit confused though.  The site that I was getting the info about block size says this:  "XFS has builtin optimizations for reading data from RAID arrays.  These options can be specified at mkfs time or at mount time (you can even set them while the system is running using the mount -o remount command) and can affect the performance of your system."
[07:30] <Crshman> i'm assuming you wanted to reap the performance benefits of the raid0? probably should have gone with reiser (sp?) or ext4
[07:30] <Crshman> yes
[07:30] <Crshman> xfs is a file system
[07:30] <Crshman> software raid emulates a hardware layer
[07:31] <dxdemetriou> after an upgrade to the latest kernel on Intrepid with nvidia 8600, when starting gdm I get black screen. the only I can do is ctrl+alt-f1 and ctrl-alt-del. the older kernel it works ok. I'm using proposed updates.
[07:31] <Crshman> two different levels entirely
[07:31] <Crshman> dxdemetriou: have you installed the kernel headers for that kernel you're running?
[07:31] <Louis> Crshman:  right, I'm familiar with filesystems and raid conceptually... althoguht not very deeply
[07:31] <Crshman> I generally have to run: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`-generic nvidia-glx-180 after I update my kernel
[07:31] <Louis> Crshman:  so why is Reiser or ext4 better?  I thought XFS was the tits for RAID arrays and such
[07:32] <Crshman> yeah but XFS is more suited for large files, reiser and ext4 are for speed
[07:32] <Crshman> but alas, you mentioned you had 400mb files on this array?
[07:32] <Louis> Crshman:  I see.  I'll bear that in mind come my next rig
[07:32] <Louis> Crshman:  yeah that's a rough average
[07:32] <dxdemetriou> Crshman, the latest I can see is 1.77
[07:32] <Crshman> then just stick with xfs
[07:32] <Crshman> dxdemetriou: then swap my 180 with 177
[07:32] <Louis> Crshman:  what qualifies as a large file?
[07:33] <Crshman> I generally class 400+ as "large"
[07:33] <Crshman> but that's just me
[07:33] <Crshman> i'm no expert
[07:33] <Louis> So do I.  I just wanted to make sure I wasn't completely doing it wrong... i've been known to do that
[07:33] <Crshman> hah, it's a learning process ;)
[07:33] <Crshman> Has anyone experienced windows freezing/not responding when maximized or made too large? I run the 180 nvidia drivers and a twinview dual screen setup with compiz enabled.....and eventually my windows will stop responding when I open them all the way....it's not application specific either
[07:33] <Louis> Crshman:  that it is... Besides, I heard XFS is easier on the CPU than ext4 and Reiser and hence a good middle ground for servers
[07:34] <Crshman> that would be corect
[07:34] <Louis> Interesting stuff... I'll have to do a lot more reading for this next rig.  Anyway thanks for your help.  It's really appreciated
[07:34] <Cige> Ok, so I currently have my Vista desktop hooked up to my Ubuntu laptop via a direct lan, and I am trying to get some files off of the desktop.  The problem is that when I look for shared folders from ubuntu, it does not see any.  I even disabled the firewall on vista.  (it isn't connected to the internet so it doesn't really matter)
[07:34] <Crshman> but at that level it doesn't really really matter since you're already doing a sw raid.....the sw raid taxes the cpu orders of magnitude more than the filesystem ops
[07:35] <Crshman> Cige: do you have samba installed?
[07:35] <Cige> yes
[07:35] <Cige> I don't have any shares set up though
[07:35] <Louis> Crshman:  right but it's a linear progression right?  The access time is going to have to be greater than sw raid + fs operations, right?
[07:35] <Cige> but I only need files off the desktop
[07:36] <Crshman> Cige: if it's urgent winscp them to your linux box
[07:36] <Louis> in other words, a faster filesystem with software raid is still faster than a slow one with software raid
[07:36] <SandGorgon> Cige: take the easy way out and run a ftp server like bulletftp or something
[07:36] <Louis> or am I totally missing something?
[07:36] <Crshman> Louis: correct
[07:36] <Cige> like filezilla?
[07:36] <Louis> okay
[07:36] <SandGorgon> Cige: sure
[07:36] <Cige> ok
[07:36] <Louis> phew.  that's enough geeking for one night. i'm going to bed! peace guys!
[07:36] <Cige> ill try that
[07:36] <Crshman> cya
[07:36] <dxdemetriou> Crshman, I have both packages. to can run this command after booting with the new kernel is only with ssh because I can't see anything
[07:37] <Crshman> dxdemetriou: yes but when you run this new command it will recompile the new nvidia drivers as a module for your current kernel and should get you back up and running
[07:37] <Crshman> dxdemetriou: if you have to run: sudo aptitude reinstall linux-headers-`uname -r`-generic nvidia-glx-177
[07:38] <Crshman> it's kind of a pain in the ass and hopefully the devs will fix it one day
[07:38] <Crshman> unfortunately i'm not an uber proficient c coder so I can't just hop in and pass out patches
[07:38] <ZykoticK9> Crshman, re: nvidia/freezing i too am using a dual monitor setup but with nvidia-177-kernel-source (i do see nvidia-180-kernel-source in synaptic, but it certainly hasn't been offered to me as an update yet) and haven't had the maximizing problem you seem to.
[07:39] <mrwoody> hi *. My son is able to change gnome theme by pressing some keys on the keyboard... does anyone know how to do that?
[07:39] <Crshman> ZykoticK9: it's not an update option, I manually installed it in the hopes that it would rectify the issues.....I used to have issues with the windows turning black on full screen but I fixed that
[07:40] <Crshman> ZykoticK9: how many windows do you have open on a given desktop?
[07:40] <Crshman> I haven' pinned it down but it seems to happen to me after I have more than 4 or 5 windows open on a desktop
[07:40] <ZykoticK9> Crshman, perhaps 10 or so - 4GB ram on this system (64bit 8.10)
[07:40] <Crshman> I have 6gb of ram on 64bit amd, so it's similar
[07:41] <Crshman> I also have: VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G72 [GeForce 7300 LE] (rev a1)
[07:42] <Cige> I still can't figure this out, the computers just don't see each other.
[07:42] <ZykoticK9> Crshman, i got "VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GeForce 8800 GT (rev a2)"
[07:43] <old> is there a disk manager in ubuntu?  I would like to format some free space..
[07:43] <Cige> The vista desktop sees nothing, and my ubuntu laptop sees a windows network with nothing on it but a printer share
[07:43] <Crshman> ZykoticK9: i'm not sure what the deal is but it seems to also occur if I manually resize the windows too large.....I don't even have to maximize them...they just stop responding/updating
[07:43] <Crshman> it's annoying
[07:43] <Crshman> old: fdisk?
[07:43] <Poscaenium> Info: IBM ThinkPad T43p -> Ubuntu 8.10 is working perfectly. (for more helpful infos for your ibm thinkpad: www.thinkwiki.org)
[07:43] <Crshman> old: gparted?
[07:44] <old> crshman: I didn't format all partitions on my HDD.... should I use fdisk?
[07:44] <Crshman> you can, if you need a gui-ized fdisk use gparted
[07:44] <old> crshman: yes.. I'll use a gui... so I need to install it?
[07:45] <Cige> networking is the weak point in my computer knowledge, do you know why a vista machene and a ubuntu machine would not detect each other?
[07:45] <Crshman> it should already be installed, but if not: # sudo apt-get install gpartecx
[07:45] <Crshman> # sudo apt-get install gparted
[07:45] <old> thanks.
[07:45] <ZykoticK9> old, Partitioning and Formatting are different things???
[07:45] <Crshman> ZykoticK9: yes they are
[07:45] <old> need to format a partition I didn't format yet..
[07:45] <Poscaenium> they have different protocols (Linux and Windows systems)
[07:45] <Crshman> formatting generally implies a filesystem
[07:45] <dijital1> heya
[07:45] <Crshman> partitioning generally implies segmenting a disk
[07:45] <ZykoticK9> old so you already have the partitions?
[07:46] <sebsebseb> dijital1: heya
[07:46] <dijital1> how's it going mate
[07:46] <old> zykotick9: I don't think so.. I need to check.
[07:46] <sebsebseb> dijital1: ok, what you want?
[07:46] <dijital1> nothing
[07:46] <sebsebseb> !ask
[07:46] <dijital1> no
[07:47] <dijital1> thing
[07:47] <sebsebseb> ok
[07:47] <sebsebseb> why you here then
[07:47] <sebsebseb> ?
[07:47] <sebsebseb> suppourt others?
[07:47] <dijital1> channel surfing
[07:47] <sebsebseb> so you don't even know what Ubuntu is?
[07:47] <dijital1> yes I know what it is
[07:47] <rww> dijital1: Don't mind sebsebseb, he's a little overzealous.
[07:48] <Crshman> hahaha
[07:48] <dijital1> just a bit
[07:48] <Crshman> +1 rww
[07:48] <dijital1> I just know rhel/centos better than ubuntu/debian
[07:48] <dijital1> work with rhel boxen more
[07:48] <Cige> I can't figure this out, I'll have to buy a portable hard drive.
[07:48] <Crshman> yum install!
[07:48] <dijital1> :)
[07:48] <Crshman> Cige: just use winscp to transfer from windows to linux
[07:49] <Poscaenium> Does anyone know a channel where I can talk with other people about LFS? I also use Ubuntu so don't kick me from this channel :)
[07:49] <old> crshman:  installed gparted.. but it says that only root may run the program.. what can I do?
[07:49] <rww> Poscaenium: LFS as in Linux From Scratch?
[07:49] <Poscaenium> yes
[07:49] <Crshman> # gksudo gparted
[07:50] <rww> Poscaenium: they have their own server, irc.linuxfromscratch.org. See http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/support.html
[07:50] <Crshman> Poscaenium: talk to the gentoo guys? hehehe
[07:50] <old> crshman: thanks. that did it..
[07:50] <Poscaenium> many thx for the info :)
[07:50] <fhqwghads> I'm having a problem with ubuntu, its only seeing my hard drive as 55 gigs when its 80 gigs
[07:50] <old> what file system should I use?  ext 3 or ext2?
[07:51] <Crshman> old: for what?
[07:51] <sebsebseb> dijital1: yeah those distros are good as well
[07:51] <old> format the drive  it's just for storage.
[07:51] <Poscaenium> I think ext3 is fine :)
[07:51] <Crshman> yeah ext3 should be good
[07:51] <Crshman> or ext4
[07:51] <old> thanks.
[07:51] <Crshman> git or mercurial hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
[07:51] <WIGGMPk> ext4 is out now?
[07:52] <mboman> What is the current recommended way to start services and re-start them if they die? (I used to use DJBs daemontools, but maybe there is something better out there now?)
[07:52] <Crshman> WIGGMPk: it's been out for a while now
[07:52] <Poscaenium> it's experimental implemented in the kernel
[07:52] <sebsebseb> WIGGMPk: it's an option in the next Ubuntu, but Ext3 is still the default
[07:52] <Poscaenium> don't use it for important systems
[07:52] <Crshman> mboman: sudo /etc/init.d/<service> restart ?
[07:52] <dijital1> just what I use. I have an intrepid installation as my workstation, but other than putting it on the correct network and setting up nfs, I haven't dug very deep into how ubuntu/debian does /etc
[07:52] <WIGGMPk> where the heck have I been
[07:52] <sebsebseb> Poscaenium: is it good to put it as the file system for Jaunty or not?
[07:52] <mboman> Crshman: too manual. I rather not baby-sit my server
[07:52] <Poscaenium> I would wait with ext4
[07:53] <Crshman> mboman: bash scripts to the rescue then =)
[07:53] <sebsebseb> Poscaenium: untill when/
[07:53] <old> i used ext3
[07:53] <sebsebseb> ?
[07:53] <mboman> Crshman: DJB daemontools then
[07:53] <Crshman> I think ext4 is standard on fedora these days
[07:53] <WIGGMPk> how is Jaunty looking anyway? I know this isnt the channel for it
[07:53] <Poscaenium> wait until it is not marked as experimental in the kernel ;) You have at time just ext4 support, but it is not the favorit filesystem for Ubuntu
[07:53] <Crshman> and ext4 is forwards and backwards compat (genius!) so it's a painless upgrade
[07:54] <dijital1> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=ubuntu+service+restart
[07:54] <dijital1> :)
[07:54] <sebsebseb> Poscaenium: not 100% sure what you mean by experimental in the kernel, but I know Gparted will have it as an optiion in next Ubuntu
[07:54] <fhqwghads> why would ubuntu not see all of my hard drive?
[07:54] <Crshman> fhqwghads: see if fdisk see's the whole drive
[07:54] <Poscaenium> experimental means that the kernel developers can't grant you that it will work without destroying data
[07:55] <fhqwghads> Crshman: ok, just do that through terminal?
[07:55] <Poscaenium> see it like a release candidate :)
[07:55] <Crshman> fhqwghads: yes
[07:55] <Crshman> fhqwghads: sudo fdisk /dev/<drive>
[07:55] <Gentoon1616> I did 'sudo passwd' and now the gnome sudo thing doesn"t work, how can I fix this please?
[07:55] <dijital1> i believe ext4 is going to be the default fs until possibly fedora 11
[07:55] <dijital1> in fedora 10, it's still ext3
[07:55] <elpargo> when people say that I always remind them of grud
[07:56] <therootest> hello :) I'm trying to use ekiga 2.0.2 in ubuntu 8.10 but I have a symmetric NAT, so STUN does not work properly. Can someone please help me?
[07:56] <Crshman> anyways, enough distractions I REALLY need to get back to coding.....if anyone can answer my question prefix with my name....kthnx
[07:56] <Poscaenium> ext4 is fine but it is "testing" at time (to say it in Debian language)
[07:56] <Crshman> Has anyone experienced windows freezing/not responding when maximized or made too large? I run the 180 nvidia drivers and a twinview dual screen setup with compiz enabled.....and eventually my windows will stop responding when I open them all the way....it's not application specific either
[07:56] <elpargo> there is nothing linux people will guarantee, experimental is just a label for new.
[07:56] <koshari> most of the advantages of ext4 wont be immediately relevent, its more futureproofing it
[07:57] <dijital1> with the way debian integrates things, ext4 won't be in a release until 2013 :)
[07:57] <dijital1> the debian developers ratehr
[07:57] <Frogzoo> what's ext4 got that ext3 doesn't?
[07:57] <Poscaenium> Take the rule: Don't change your system if it is not necessary.
[07:57] <sebsebseb> Ext4 is faster than Ext3 by a long way
[07:57] <defrysk> Frogzoo, speed
[07:57] <elpargo> Frogzoo: feature of course
[07:57] <Poscaenium> so if you have ext3 and it is working fine for you. keep it
[07:57] <koshari> Frogzoo well to begn with it supports volumes well above ext3
[07:57] <Gentoon1616> And once again I will have to goto the deian room to get support...
[07:57] <therootest> hello :) I'm trying to use ekiga 2.0.2 in ubuntu 8.10 but I have a symmetric NAT, so STUN does not work properly. Can someone please help me?
[07:57] <sebsebseb> Poscaenium: or  go  Ext4 when it's the default file system for Ubuntu?
[07:58] <defrysk> and fscheck is many many times faster
[07:58] <Gentoon1616> debian
[07:58] <dijital1> it's no longer prime which makes it inferior
[07:58] <Poscaenium> than an upgrade is usefull, if it is the default
[07:58] <koshari> so when terabyte hard drives become the norm they will be comfortably supported
[07:58] <sebsebseb> Poscaenium: yeah, but Ext3 can't just be upgraded to Ext4 anyway, so clean install
[07:58] <dijital1> reiserfs
[07:58] <dijital1> free hans
[07:59] <sebsebseb> koshari: that's hardware that's differnet
[07:59] <sebsebseb> dijital1: MurderFS no thanks, that guy murdered his wife.
[07:59] <Poscaenium> I think you shouldn't use it in a company at time if you are the administrator.
[07:59] <Poscaenium> Take a look and try it at a kvm.
[07:59] <sebsebseb> what about Ext4 for home use?
[07:59] <elpargo> poor hans :( he is crazy
[08:00] <dijital1> i would just wait
[08:00] <sebsebseb> Poscaenium: kvm  I am not even sure how to get that working :(
[08:00] <sebsebseb> Poscaenium: it's not as simple as just install and the gui thing as well, and it works
[08:00] <Frogzoo> hans reiser may be crazy, doesn't mean reiser fs is no good
[08:00] <dijital1> ext4 is going to be nice but I wouldn't run an experimental file system
[08:00] <Poscaenium> then use vmware :)
[08:00] <sebsebseb> dijital1: indeed
[08:00] <dijital1> it's not like running the alpha version of firefox. when the fs screws up, it's a really bad day
[08:00] <Poscaenium> kvm is not realy difficult
[08:00] <Frogzoo> I don't think reiser is crazy, just badly fucked up
[08:00] <sebsebseb> dijital1: indeed again
[08:00] <elpargo> Frogzoo: sadly it's down the toiled
[08:00] <fhqhghads> Crshman: I get this when using fdisk
[08:01] <Poscaenium> just install kvm qemu
[08:01] <fhqhghads> The number of cylinders for this disk is set to 38913. There is nothing wrong with that, but this is larger than 1024, and could in certain setups cause problems with: 1) software that runs at boot time (e.g., old versions of LILO) 2) booting and partitioning software from other OSs    (e.g., DOS FDISK, OS/2 FDISK)
[08:01] <koshari> sebsebseb and software needs to be able to support hardware, ext3 will never support  1-EB (1-million-TB) file systems.
[08:01] <Frogzoo> elpargo: too bad
[08:01] <Poscaenium> than create a image with qemu-img (i think)
[08:01] <sebsebseb> Poscaenium: yeah I done qemu before that's fun to do as well, but I tend to use Virtualbox
[08:01] <dijital1> vmware for ftw imo. it's free, has great management tools and you'll be learning something that's actually marketable
[08:01] <Poscaenium> and load it with kvm (for mor infos take a look to "man qemu")
[08:01] <titon> hi i'm having some problem with hardy heron. i went back from intrepid cuz i had problems with the 96 drivers. The nvidia driver works great when it first was installed...i had compiz fusion with all the effects running good. but after reboot i get some vertical lines going across the splash screen and gdm is all flickering lines going across and i cant see the anything but that. its a geforce 4 go 440 with 96.43.05 drivers
[08:01] <dijital1> no one runs web farms on virtualbox or kvm
[08:01] <dijital1> not yet at least
[08:01] <elpargo> reiser was a really nice FS
[08:02] <sebsebseb> dijital1: VMware is not free as in price, unless it's  VMware player which sucks,  or Server which is ok
[08:02] <elpargo> xen!
[08:02] <dijital1> mmmm no
[08:02] <Poscaenium> i like qemu because you have just one image and can export it easy to other computers
[08:02] <titon> it works if i change to nv.....reboots...login......change to nvidia and shutdown computer and then boot it up. then the nvidia works but only once....and then it repeats it self
[08:02] <fhqhghads> dijital1 VMWare is a resource hogger, Virtual Box is freaking awesome
[08:02] <dijital1> you can actually download the server for free
[08:02] <sebsebseb> dijital1: also you need stupid vmx files in those,  and  vmdk files work in Virtualbox
[08:02] <dijital1> all you have to do is register
[08:02] <dijital1> it's free for non commercial use
[08:02] <Poscaenium> and it is very fast because kvm is in the kernel implementet
[08:02] <dijital1> nah...
[08:02] <dxdemetriou> Crshman, I just installed the 180 and it worked. just I'm somehow scared with this beta driver.. dkms worked ok before, just something wasn't right with the driver and gdm I think. I had similar problem before and I just switched to an older driver, but now to the newer
[08:02] <ziroday> Poscaenium: you can do that with virtualbox (and others) too
[08:02] <sebsebseb> workstation is not free
[08:03] <elpargo> rly? i'm running vmware in like 400MB per image that's good enough I think
[08:03] <dijital1> man I have a box with an amd cpu from 3 years ago and I've got 5 vms running it. 4 centos and 1 windows XP that have doing video encoding
[08:03] <Crshman> dxdemetriou: dkms works fine with my 180 driver my monitors sleep
[08:03] <dijital1> works lieka  champ
[08:03] <Poscaenium> I created with vmware the machine with the non free edition (so i can't start the machine). But the vmplayer can do it.
[08:03] <titon> anyone heard of this nvidia problem?
[08:04] <Gentoon1616> HELLO?
[08:04] <Crshman> titon: what nvidia problem?
[08:04] <Gentoon1616> God why is it so hard to get suppor here?
[08:04] <Gentoon1616> support.
[08:04] <dxdemetriou> Crshman, why are you using this beta? you had some problem before?
[08:04] <Crshman> Gentoon1616: ask your question?
[08:04] <Gentoon1616> This is the problem with bandwagon distros
[08:04] <Gentoon1616> I have 4 times...
[08:04] <Crshman> dxdemetriou: I had the window freeze issues with 177, so I figured that 180 *might* fix them, alas it did not
[08:04] <Poscaenium> Gentoo users are nown as gurus so i wondering why YOU have questions ?
[08:04] <Crshman> Gentoon1616: as again then
[08:04] <titon> hi i'm having some problem with hardy heron. i went back from intrepid cuz i had problems with the 96 drivers. The nvidia driver works great when it first was installed...i had compiz fusion with all the effects running good. but after reboot i get some vertical lines going across the splash screen and gdm is all flickering lines going across and i cant see the anything but that. its a geforce 4 go 440 with 96.43.05 drivers
[08:04] <titon> it works if i change to nv.....reboots...login......change to nvidia and shutdown computer and then boot it up. then the nvidia works but only once....and then it repeats it self
[08:05] <Frogzoo> Gentoon1616: well obviously we haven't seen your question, or don't know tha answer
[08:05] <dijital1> mmm
[08:05] <elpargo> gentoo is the best os out there, sadly it requires way too much time
[08:05] <Louis> Back with another question:  Since XFS doesn't have an undelete utility, does that make it in any way more resistant to forensic analysis?
[08:05] <ZykoticK9> re: Virtualization -- one HUGE advantage to both KVM and VirtualBox over VMWare is support for VT-x/AMD-V (the hardware virtualization support in modern CPUs), i'm sure part of the reason you aren't allowed to post benchmarks of VMWare products -- so slow in comparison
[08:05] <dijital1> ther was a tool a while back for automagically getting nvidia cards working under ubuntu
[08:05] <dijital1> Envy I think it is
[08:05] <Frogzoo> elpargo: gentoo is a waste of electricity
[08:05] <dijital1> ummm
[08:05] <titon> i tried with envy
[08:05] <Gentoon1616> Crshman: I did 'sudo paswd" and now everytime ubuntu askes me for root password in a lil box it gives me an error and doesn't work
[08:05] <Crshman> Louis: nothing is foolproof
[08:05] <dijital1> vmware supports the vmx extension
[08:05] <elpargo> ZykoticK9: interesting to know.
[08:05] <titon> i used envy....and the properiatre drivers....compiled my own.....
[08:06] <elpargo> Frogzoo: you have never had to manage a secure and or optimal system right?
[08:06] <Poscaenium> sudo chpwd root THEN set a pwd and you can logon with root
[08:06] <Louis> Crshman:  obviously =)  I was just wondering if it made it more resistant as opposed to, say, Reiser or ext3
[08:06] <Crshman> try #sudo ls does it ask you for root pass?
[08:06] <titon> thing is it used to work great with 8.04 thats why i went back...
[08:06] <Crshman> Louis: I wouldn't bet on it
[08:06] <elpargo> gentoo is so not for desktops
[08:06] <dijital1> if you enable VMX in any santa rosa or newer processor, vmware can/does take advantage of it
[08:06] <Gentoon1616> Lol yes it is
[08:06] <Poscaenium> or just simply type sudo -s when you don't like to use a root user instantly
[08:06] <Crshman> elpargo: gentoo is for whatever you want it to be, assuming you want to put the time in
[08:06] <Gentoon1616> Gentoo is for whatever you want it to be for
[08:06] <elpargo> sigh...
[08:06] <Frogzoo> elpargo: ah, you're assuming
[08:07] <elpargo> don't be stupid please. I'm talking practicallity
[08:07] <Gentoon1616> It was esigned for power desktops and servers...
[08:07] <elpargo> you can run linux from scratch as your desktop
[08:07] <Poscaenium> Gentoo is the next step after LFS ;)
[08:07] <Gentoon1616> designed... and so am I
[08:07] <Crshman> elpargo: if you want it to be a desktop by all means go for it...it can do it just fine
[08:07] <elpargo> sigh...
[08:07] <elpargo> for the record I was almost a gentoo dev some years ago.
[08:07] <Poscaenium> you have to do each config by yourself that's good but not always the best solution
[08:07] <Crshman> "practical" is relative
[08:07] <dxdemetriou> I can't believe it.. Now there is an option in "Hardware drivers" for 180 as recommended :S
[08:08] <elpargo> I even wrote ebuilds for it.
[08:08] <elpargo> and you need to learn when things fit.
[08:08] <elpargo> recompiling X for a z release is not in x.y.z  is NOT for a desktop
[08:08] <Crshman> again "practical" is relative....what might not be practical for you could be fine for others....I know many compatriots that run gentoo as a desktop system just fine
[08:09] <elpargo> Crshman: right I used to be one.
[08:09] <therootest> hello :) I'm trying to use ekiga 2.0.2 in ubuntu 8.10 but I have a symmetric NAT, so STUN does not work properly. Can someone please help me?
[08:09] <Crshman> granted I stand by your definition, it's just too much work.....but it can be used for a desktop
[08:09] <elpargo> it just takes way too muc htime out of you.
[08:09] <Poscaenium> Desktop systems are lazy ... they only a Layer for the real system. ncurses are a fine thing :)
[08:09] <Crshman> but you know....there are people out there that have not lives =P
[08:09] <Crshman> no lives*
[08:09] <dijital1> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X86_virtualization#Intel_Virtualization_Technology_for_x86_.28Intel_VT-x.29
[08:10] <koshari> Crshman there called the deceased
[08:10] <Crshman> hah
[08:10] <false> Crshman: That or been using linux for years and have no problem diagnosing all the small problems you run across with a less 'user-friendly' distro.
[08:10] <Crshman> false: I've been using linux for years....but i'm a lazy fuck and just want it to work haha so I use precompiled binaries and packages
[08:11] <koshari> real men use theyre own operating systems rolled in machine code mnemonics,
[08:11] <elpargo> Crshman: right is why I said "practical" rather than "optimal"
[08:11] <false> Crshman: Exactly. It comes down to each their own, really. ;)
[08:11] <Poscaenium> ubuntu server edition is not so finde ... it sucks a little bit. In this case better use debian. Ubuntu is more for the desktop user configurated.
[08:11] <Poscaenium> not so fine ...
[08:11] <Crshman> false: I agree
[08:11] <Crshman> "practical" is relative
[08:11] <elpargo> Crshman: fine agree with me
[08:12] <koshari> ld a, ff     ld,b 33
[08:12] <Crshman> elpargo: did you fix your sudo issue?
[08:12] <Crshman> did you check your sudoers file?
[08:12] <Skeletor> Poscaenium, it depends on the scenario. you will receive 5 years of sec updates for ubuntu server lts which you won't for debian.
[08:12] <Poscaenium> that's a good argument skeleton :)
[08:12] <elpargo> huh? wasn't me
[08:12] <Poscaenium> btw.... nice name ;)
[08:12] <elpargo> i'm just wasting peoples time here :)
[08:13] <elpargo> can we go back to the virtualiztion thing?
[08:13] <Crshman> oh haha
[08:13] <Crshman> i'll pass....I've had enough vm for the day
[08:13] <Crshman> oh infastructure....
[08:13] <dijital1> yesss
[08:13] <sebsebseb> elpargo: conclusion, VMware whatever,  Virtualbox try that :)
[08:13] <dijital1> for freee
[08:13] <elpargo> so seriously you can go below 300MB on a ubuntu image with !=vmware?
[08:13] <Poscaenium> i've a terrible headache today ... we have no fine weather in vienna since one month
[08:13] <Crshman> sebsebseb: vmware server is free
[08:14] <Crshman> sebsebseb: so is vmware esxi
[08:14] <sebsebseb> Crshman: yes I have used it before, and it needed a stupid vmx file
[08:14] <bigbrovar> for those that disabled pulse audio. how do you get flash videos like in youtube to play sounds?
[08:14] <elpargo> Crshman: yea yea but not open source
[08:14] <dijital1> and it does work really well.. it's been almost 2 years since I last tired virtualbox and kvm.
[08:14] <sebsebseb> Crshman: vmx files are stupid.  Virtualbox  does the set up stuff for people
[08:14] <dijital1> what does that matter?
[08:14] <elpargo> sebastien: will virtualbox run on macos?
[08:14] <sebsebseb> elpargo: yes it does
[08:14] <Crshman> sebsebseb: have you tried moving a vbox vmachine to another physical box? ;)
[08:14] <rdw200169> yes, virtualbox is excellent, you can even get USB support....
[08:14] <dijital1> unless you're a developer, why do you care if oyu have acces tot he code or not
[08:15] <CosmiChaos> cannot format or save anything to any floppy butnautilus and my floppy-drive claim that they wrote stuff (noises, file-operations). after every remount the changes ar elost, any idea?
[08:15] <sebsebseb> Crshman: that shoudn't be to bad, as long as it was a dynamicalley expanding hard disk image
[08:15] <sebsebseb> Crshman: and yes I have done it once I think
[08:15] <Poscaenium> you can use qemu und kvm more with scripts --> that's very fine
[08:15] <elpargo> dijital1: I normally prefer the OS alternative even if I don't ever code on it.
[08:15] <koshari> dijital1 because it means OTHER people have access to the code.
[08:15] <Crshman> sebsebseb: the .vmx file that holds all the configuration for vmware makes it easy and painless....no need to recreate the config in vbox
[08:15] <sebsebseb> Crshman: you don't recreate teh config
[08:15] <sebsebseb> Crshman: just copy the hidden  .virtualbox  folder from home
[08:15] <elpargo> koshari: that too, if maybe some day I need/want something I'll dive in.
[08:15] <Crshman> but I use vmware because vbox doesn't support my garmin device
[08:16] <elpargo> anyone with some info on the RAM?
[08:16] <Crshman> elpargo: >4gb == good
[08:16] <rdw200169> elpargo, yes, from my svn checkout, theres some stuff for darwin, so i'm assuming that it works natively with macos
[08:16] <dijital1> *shurg..* just use whichever works best for you, but I just wanted to point out that you can actually run vmware for free
[08:16] <bigbrovar> for those that disabled pulse audio. how do you get flash videos like in youtube to play sounds?
[08:16] <elpargo> how about the setup? with vmware fusion you simple install like a "normal" os.
[08:16] <Poscaenium> by the way don't try to use games in a vm by running windows - it sucks - you will lost 30 % of your machine power.
[08:16] <sebsebseb> well something I like to point out, is  you can run vmdk files without needing a vmx,  in virtualbox
[08:17] <elpargo> Crshman: ehh I was talking per image. Ram usage of the program not how much you need to make it fine.
[08:17] <Crshman> haha
[08:17] <sebsebseb> elpargo: I haven't used fushion or workstation,  only   player and server
[08:17] <dijital1> I run fusion on my MBP
[08:17] <Poscaenium> fusion is only for mac
[08:17] <elpargo> Poscaenium: totally it is not supposed for that anyway that is what dualboot was invented for.
[08:17] <dijital1> and server on the linux box at home
[08:17] <Crshman> Has anyone experienced windows freezing/not responding when maximized or made too large? I run the 180 nvidia drivers and a twinview dual screen setup with compiz enabled.....and eventually my windows will stop responding when I open them all the way....it's not application specific either
[08:17] <sebsebseb> yeah that  Mac bootcamp for Winblows :D
[08:17] <sebsebseb> I don't have a Mac, but bootcamp did seem interesting
[08:17] <dijital1> no bootcamp here
[08:18] <Poscaenium> MAC is just working on a darwin kernel with freebsd
[08:18] <dijital1> windows is relegated to a file on my hd. just as it should be
[08:18] <Poscaenium> no linux, but okay ;)
[08:18] <sebsebseb> dijital1: indeed Windows  doesna't really deserve to be on a hard disk properly
[08:18] <Crshman> ^
[08:18] <sebsebseb> dijital1: ,but sometimes it has to be, because of some  program
[08:18] <elpargo> sebastien: it's noting mroe than a fancy dual boot.
[08:18] <dxdemetriou> Crshman, you mean that everything on desktop, panels etc stop responding?
[08:19] <elpargo> any self respecting techy could do the same in the same time.
[08:19] <sebsebseb> Crshman: the up arrow saying you agree with me?
[08:19] <azlon_> what is the command to delete a file?
[08:19] <ZykoticK9> azlon_, rm
[08:19] <elpargo> sebsebseb: until game makes realize game players hate windows, we are stuck with it.
[08:19] <dijital1> the macos kernel is actually xnu no darwin. and the fbsd code is mainly in the networking stack
[08:19] <elpargo> Poscaenium: actually it's a darwin kernel + a BSD-like OS.
[08:19] <dijital1> WoW runs on macos. what else do you really need? :)
[08:20] <sebsebseb> elpargo: well I am not personalley, but with 1GB RAM, I don't think Vista will run in a vm.   as a result I still dual boot,  but I hardly boot up Vista
[08:20] <azlon_> ZykoticK9: thanks!!! i was doing rem...
[08:20] <elpargo> dijital1: I'm talking about games here..
[08:20] <sebsebseb> elpargo: I don't really need VIsta on dual boot, but it can be good to have at times
[08:20] <Crshman> sebsebseb: yes
[08:20] <elpargo> sebsebseb: I got 2 GB here and it boots fine.
[08:20] <elpargo> well for games use XP.
[08:20] <dijital1> mmm no. the kernel is xnu. "darwin" is the opensource project name given by people that are developing it but macos is 3 major parts
[08:20] <Poscaenium> MAC os is a touch to much comerz for me, but a mac will always be better than windows
[08:20] <sebsebseb> XP  on this computer on the hard disk for real and I needed some sound driver, I never figured out what
[08:20] <Crshman> dxdemetriou: no, just the window that is currently active freezes.....it doesn't update anymore...my clicks and typing register but the screen doesn't display that it's just "frozen"
[08:21] <dijital1> xnu, the iokit and bsd framework for mainly the networking stack
[08:21] <elpargo> right think of darwin <> macos, like webkit <> safari
[08:21] <elpargo> no one really runs darwin :p
[08:21] <Poscaenium> 4 real gaming buy a game-console for your tv and kick windows from your harddisk
[08:22] <elpargo> Poscaenium: I'm an old timer I like wasd :p
[08:22] <sebsebseb> elpargo: right, but  real install of Vista needs 1GB really,  and  Vbox needs like 512MB RAM for it
[08:22] <elpargo> sebsebseb: ok that's some numbers. my vmware fusion runs XP in like 300MB-400Mb
[08:22] <elpargo> and ubuntu in abut the same.
[08:22] <Poscaenium> a old own workstation with win 3.11 and old games --- that's fine
[08:23] <koshari> sebsebseb i have a win7 vbox image that runs fine
[08:23] <sebsebseb> elpargo: yeah I thik it's 512 recommended something or the other for vbox
[08:23] <Poscaenium> star wars etc ... :)
[08:23] <dijital1> it's a good comprimise as far an OS goes I think. it's real unix (ie a real shell, programming languages, fairly stable) and doesn't suck like windows
[08:23] <Ramses> Enter text here...hallo
[08:23] <sebsebseb> koshari: I don't think win7 will run here with only 1GB psyicall RAM
[08:23] <Poscaenium> commander keen was my favorit :)
[08:23] <D_likescookies> Rick dangerous for me.
[08:23] <D_likescookies> =P
[08:23] <sebsebseb> koshari: anyway I remote connected into someone elses's vm of win7,  not impressed with it, it's just vista version 2
[08:23] <koshari> sebsebseb i have 500m dedicated to the vm on win7
[08:23] <elpargo> Poscaenium: ahhh old games rock!
[08:23] <dijital1> koshari: how are you looking win7? a colleague at work has been running it and keeps trying to convert us
[08:24] <Poscaenium> yeah they just in time
[08:24] <elpargo> sebsebseb: I got that in dual boot no reason why...
[08:24] <elpargo> it sucks less as every windows version
[08:24] <koshari> dijital1 visually its not a great deal different
[08:24] <Poscaenium> DOS was a good OS ;D
[08:24] <sebsebseb> enough fools will upgrade XP to Win7 though instead of getting a decant OS as in Linux or  Unix   and  OS X is Unix under the hood
[08:24] <dijital1> does it run any faster?
[08:24] <dxdemetriou> Crshman, so mine is worst. I had everything freezed in random times before, and I had to switch to f1 and kill the last program I used this time. the last time I had this problem I pressed the shortcut for Gnome-Do, and the frozen window with everything else were fixed. maybe is because of compiz that only the current window is frozing.. I weren't used compiz when I had this problem
[08:24] <Poscaenium> with dosbox you can emulate old games
[08:24] <Poscaenium> nice nice nice
[08:24] <dijital1> does still write to swap when there's tons of available ram?
[08:24] <koshari> dijital1 seems the same to me
[08:24] <elpargo> Windows+1 is always less sucky than windows, yet like Linux-=20
[08:25] <Ramses> hallo
[08:25] <Crshman> dxdemetriou: I'm just about certain the issue lies with compiz....if I disable compiz entirely I never have any problems....
[08:25] <sebsebseb> Ramses: hello
[08:25] <Poscaenium> compiz is just for eyecandy
[08:25] <conb123> Its a bit of a random question but it has been bugging me for a while now why do developers always put -ng at the end of their program name
[08:25] <elpargo> ahhh right compiz, they they stop the drama and went back to coding?
[08:25] <sebsebseb> Jaunty beta coming out soon, but  I might upgrade to alpha 5 first, not sure yet
[08:25] <elpargo> Poscaenium: not at all
[08:25] <koshari> Poscaenium the scale tool is productive
[08:25] <elpargo> koshari: very
[08:26] <Poscaenium> that's right ...
[08:26] <grape-ape> ubuntu is writing to swap for me.. and i have ram available
[08:26] <Crshman> Poscaenium: I actually find it quite useful in my workflow for moving around windows and switching between desktops
[08:26] <sebsebseb> heh #ubuntu turned into  offtopic, but  like no one wanting help with stuff anyway
[08:26] <elpargo> sebsebseb: your welcome, I mean I'm sorry I mean I'm an op here I'll kick you all!
[08:26] <dijital1> it's pretty late/early :)
[08:26] <dxdemetriou> is there anybody that some plugins on compiz-fusion don't work like atlantis, snow and such?
[08:26] <Ramses> fukc of
[08:27] <sebsebseb> elpargo: your an op for real,  I got a feeling your not
[08:27] <D_likescookies> I'll ask a question then, what should I use as vm software?
[08:27] <Poscaenium> I'm a fan of the console - i hate everything with a mouse :) Have you ever seen a mouse at stargate or eureka =D
[08:27] <dijital1> whatever floats your boat
[08:27] <sebsebseb> D_likescookies: Virtualbox :)
[08:27] <koshari> i beleive scale is the best task switcher i have used so far, Go is a pretty nice launcher also
[08:27] <dijital1> I like vmware personally
[08:27] <elpargo> sebsebseb: if I where do you think I'll be talking offtopic?
[08:27] <ZykoticK9> dxdemetriou, what ubuntu are you running?
[08:27] <D_likescookies> that was quick. ty. ;)
[08:27] <Topsun> conb123: it's cool to have a Next Generation program :D
[08:27] <elpargo> Poscaenium: DWM
[08:27] <sebsebseb> D_likescookies: you need the binary from their website the non OSE  or you don't get USB suppourt
[08:27] <dxdemetriou> ZykoticK9, ubuntu with proposed updates
[08:28] <conb123> Topsun: oh thats what it stands for thanks problem solved :)
[08:28] <elpargo> yet compiz mouse and rotatios are super helpful.
[08:28] <sebsebseb> D_likescookies: http://www.virtualbox.org
[08:28] <D_likescookies> got it, thankies much.
[08:28]  * elpargo goes back to gaming. 
[08:28] <koshari> sorry i meant Do is a great launcher
[08:28] <dxdemetriou> ZykoticK9, sorry.. Intrepid
[08:28] <elpargo> will try vbox one of these days.
[08:28] <elpargo> to test my DDE
[08:28] <ZykoticK9> dxdemetriou, yes but what version of ubuntu 8.04?  with 8.10 i know that atlantis works for sure, i think snow too.
[08:28] <sebsebseb> DDE??????
[08:29]  * elpargo distributed development environment :) 
[08:29] <sebsebseb> for what?
[08:29] <conb123> hi i'm having a problem with ubuntu 8.10 whenever i enable the ati fglrx drivers and then reboot the x server wont boot it just shows as black and just shows alot of I/O errors in terminal, to fix it i have to boot to recovery mode and fix x server but that siables the graphics drivers. How do i ix this?
[08:29] <D_likescookies> sebsebseb: everything neatly split per os and arch. very good. =)
[08:29] <Poscaenium> have to go - take care of you guys (and maybe girls ;d)
[08:29] <elpargo> sebsebseb: ehhh writting software?
[08:29] <koshari> conb123 get an nvidia gpu
[08:29] <sebsebseb> Poscaenium: girls  maybe, but not that likely
[08:30] <dxdemetriou> ZykoticK9, Intrepid with proposed updates. it's upgraded from 8.04 and.. ok, I'm having it with sequential upgrades from 5.10 :)
[08:30] <conb123> koshari: well that doesn't really count as a solution does it thats like saying get a new house because it has a leak in the roof
[08:30] <elpargo> sebsebseb: I wrote/am writting, some tools to manage a highly developer centric "OS"
[08:30] <sebsebseb> elpargo: oh right  ok
[08:30] <koshari> conb123 unfortinaltly thats true, ok, get onto the AMD devs to get up to speed.
[08:31] <sebsebseb> elpargo:  developers for any project?
[08:31] <Crshman> elpargo: +1 for being a dev too =D
[08:31] <elpargo> VMware+ubuntu+vim+bash+hg+virtualenv+.... a ton of stuff, and it also has a server side component for "storing code"
[08:31] <ZykoticK9> dxdemetriou, ok, seems like snow might not work actually
[08:31] <conb123> koshari: well amd manufacture processors so i assume you mean ATI but its pretty doubtful that they could help me here i think this is just an ubuntu related problem
[08:31] <elpargo> ohh and dwm that's very important.
[08:31] <sebsebseb> ZykoticK9: wha about snow?
[08:32] <ZykoticK9> sebsebseb, doesn't seem to do anything....
[08:32] <sebsebseb> what about snow?
[08:32] <elpargo> Crshman: sebsebseb well it's oriented to webdev in python, because that is what I do. But it's totally modular.
[08:32] <dxdemetriou> ZykoticK9, I press the checkbox and it's unpressed by itself
[08:32] <elpargo> hence the "distributed"
[08:32] <Crshman> elpargo: I need to jump on that python boat.....i've been slacking on that =( I do mainly php
[08:32] <sebsebseb> elpargo: right ok
[08:32] <koshari> conb123 ati bought radeon some time ago and the currente ati drivers on all linux are sourced fron the south end of a bovine facing north.
[08:32] <ZykoticK9> dxdemetriou, i don't have that problem -- it lets me enable it, it just doesn't do anything (but i swear it use to work???)
[08:33] <elpargo> Crshman: ohhh dude don't. Ones you taste it you never go back.
[08:33] <Topsun> conb123: have you a recent model or an older one?
[08:33] <Crshman> elpargo: hahaha that's what i've heard!
[08:33] <ShinyHat> anyone interested in helpin out a newbie?
[08:33] <elpargo> the server component so far is hg+trac+zine+builbot+.... well that's nowhere near ready
[08:33] <Ramses> Enter text here...
[08:33] <Topsun> koshari: not ait bought radeon, amd bought ati ;) but you already know that ^^
[08:33] <conb123> Topsun: well its not brand new but its not old its a raedon x1950 pro 256mb
[08:33] <Crshman> yeah i'm on a cakephp kick right now....loving the framework.....it's like RoR just easy to deploy =P
[08:34] <elpargo> ShinyHat: dont' ask to ask :)
[08:34] <Ramses> b
[08:34] <elpargo> Crshman: hehehe I just got a project, to take someone OUT of cake :p
[08:34] <ShinyHat> lol, i guess it was more a question of if i'm in the right room
[08:34] <elpargo> in php land I think symphony is the less of all evils
[08:34] <Ramses> l
[08:34] <sebsebseb> !ask
[08:34] <Ramses> p
[08:34] <Ramses> p
[08:34] <Ramses> o
[08:34] <FloodBot3> Ramses: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:34] <Crshman> elpargo: haha funny, I love the whole MVC thing it's magic
[08:34] <elpargo> ShinyHat: that depends on the question :)
[08:34] <sebsebseb> ShinyHat: help with what?
[08:35] <elpargo> Crshman: I'm bias here but TurboGears is great for MVC.
[08:35] <elpargo> totally modular :)
[08:35] <sebsebseb> !support
[08:35] <ShinyHat> recently decided to try linux- starting with ubuntu
[08:36] <Crshman> After I learn more about the whole concept of the php framework thing i'm probably going to jump ship to code igniter or zend framework
[08:36] <Ramses> how to private chat...teach me please
[08:36] <Topsun> conb123: do you know the exact errors?
[08:36] <sebsebseb> ShinyHat: ok and?
[08:36] <Ramses> how to private chat...teach me please
[08:36] <ShinyHat> most everything working on an aspire 5520
[08:36] <elpargo> ShinyHat: you will never go back :) and good choice
[08:36] <ShinyHat> lovin it so far
[08:36] <dijital1> /query <personyouwanttotalkto>
[08:36] <elpargo> Ramses: what's your client?
[08:36] <ShinyHat> google has been priceless
[08:36] <elpargo> or /msg
[08:36] <sebsebseb> Ramses: teach you Ubuntu?  I could do later,  but I am going soon
[08:36] <elpargo> ShinyHat: yea in OS you normally get help :)
[08:37] <ShinyHat> but can't seem to find info on how to make the special buttons work- like browser and email
[08:37] <Ramses> i want to private chat...how to do
[08:37] <sebsebseb> Ramses: find my name in the name list and click on it
[08:37] <elpargo> Crshman: if you are serious about python, drop by #turbogears on of these days, I'll walk you thru some stuff.
[08:37] <dijital1> *click* ?
[08:37] <sebsebseb> ShinyHat: Firefox comes with Ubuntu and should just work
[08:37] <dijital1> you're not using irrsi
[08:37] <elpargo> I'll stop the commercials now :p
[08:38] <elpargo> and go back to play it's ****** friday ...
[08:38] <Crshman> elpargo: I'll definately take you up on that offer in a few weeks after I finish up this project i'm doing
[08:38] <ShinyHat> yeah, ive been usin FF for years, i meant the special browser button on the laptop
[08:38] <ZykoticK9> ShinyHat, you could look into the program "KeyTouch" it's in the repo
[08:38] <Thingymebob1> Shinyhat: Those buttons have never worked on any of my acers
[08:38] <dxdemetriou> ZykoticK9, I hadn't thing about deleting old configurations.. now everything works
[08:38] <mib_nqq83r> hi my system which worked fine initially, now never shuts down, it takes some time to show the shutdown/restart menu and while shutting down, it stucks at "system() ...clock timed out" or something and while starting up it shows error that "error: can not initialize HAL"
[08:38] <ShinyHat> i tried keytouch, nothing showed up
[08:38] <elpargo> Crshman: cool hopefully by then we'll have tg2rc1 which will be a great place to start.
[08:39] <ZykoticK9> dxdemetriou, very cool!
[08:39] <mib_nqq83r> everytime i have to press the power button to crash it off..
[08:39] <dxdemetriou> ZykoticK9, do you know how can I enable the circled cube? :)
[08:39] <ShinyHat> Thingy: i was afraid of that :(
[08:39] <sebsebseb> Ramses: double click my name?
[08:39] <Ramses> how to private chat...teach me please
[08:39] <ZykoticK9> dxdemetriou, "cube" & "rotate cube"
[08:39] <sebsebseb> Ramses: where are you from and age?  is Ubuntu installed?
[08:40] <bigbrovar> for those that disabled pulse audio. how do you get flash videos like in youtube to play sounds?
[08:40] <elpargo> ShinyHat: those are a pain to set. back when I try you need to literally guess their OP codes and set them in some config file.
[08:40] <ZykoticK9> dxdemetriou, sorry "cube reflection and deformation"
[08:40] <elpargo> Ramses: we already answered twice
[08:40] <Ramses> i come from indonesia age 25
[08:40] <elpargo> ...
[08:40] <elpargo> now we do need an op
[08:40]  * elpargo out
[08:40] <sebsebseb> elpargo: why?
[08:40] <Ramses> e new member
[08:40] <ShinyHat> wow, probably have to wait til im a bit more seasoned for that
[08:41] <mib_nqq83r> Ramses: you meen you need an instant messanger for gtalk/yahoo?
[08:41] <sebsebseb> Ramses: you did some  CTCP-finger  request whatever that is, plus a ping
[08:41] <sebsebseb> Ramses: oh now you figured out how to do PM
[08:41] <dxdemetriou> ZykoticK9, thanks
[08:42] <ZykoticK9> dxdemetriou, i have cylinder cube and even found some cubecaps that look like wheels - kinda neat
[08:42] <sebsebseb> elpargo: why do we need a op?
[08:42] <sebsebseb> !jp |  Ramses
[08:42] <NarbeH> i have problem with my modem in Dell XPS 1530.
[08:42] <ShinyHat> another troubling thing- after the bar goes away on the shutdown splashscreen, i have to push a couple buttons (any) to get the machine to actually power down
[08:43] <elpargo> sebsebseb: are you one?
[08:43] <mib_nqq83r> know about the shutdown problem being stuck at the clock section?
[08:43] <sebsebseb> elpargo: nah, but it would be something I guess
[08:43] <NarbeH> RoozbehOnline: hey
[08:43] <sebsebseb> elpargo: lol  so he pms me and then tells me he don't know English
[08:43] <elpargo> sebsebseb: ok :) I know how to call one if you need to :)
[08:44] <Mr_Giraffe> does anybody know how i can resolve clicking issues in games? if i click in warsow or urban terror (or any other FPS), there is a significant lag time before a shot is fired
[08:44] <elpargo> sebsebseb: then you know why I said we need an op
[08:44] <RoozbehOnline> NarbeH: hi
[08:44] <NarbeH> i have problem with my modem in Dell XPS 1530.
[08:44] <RoozbehOnline> NarbeH: what are u doing here ? :D
[08:44] <Seveas> Mr_Giraffe, the games are sending you a signal to be less violent ;)
[08:44] <NarbeH> RoozbehOnline: my XPS 1530 Modem problem. :(
[08:44] <sebsebseb> elpargo: heh he says he is from Indonnisa, but the hostname Japan
[08:44] <Seveas> NarbeH, unless you say what the problem is, nobody can help you :)
[08:44] <RoozbehOnline> NarbeH: dialup ?
[08:45] <Mr_Giraffe> Seveas: cute, but it doesn't solve my problem :P
[08:45] <Ramses> i come from indonesia but a live in japan
[08:45] <NarbeH> Seveas: i installed the driver. DGC conexant . but still no modem detected
[08:45] <NarbeH> RoozbehOnline: yes
[08:45] <sebsebseb> Ramses: ok your back here good
[08:45] <Seveas> Mr_Giraffe, sorry, I can't be more helpful than that with this problem :)
[08:45] <sebsebseb> !jp |  Ramses
[08:45] <RoozbehOnline> NarbeH: you can use dell conecxant driver
[08:45] <Seveas> conexant icky
[08:45] <sebsebseb> !in
[08:46] <RoozbehOnline> NarbeH: but for ubuntu 8.10 not release
[08:46] <NarbeH> RoozbehOnline: i installed it. but in wvdial no modem ...
[08:46] <sebsebseb> what would the indonisian one be?
[08:46] <NarbeH> RoozbehOnline: hah? :(
[08:46] <Seveas> !id
[08:46] <NarbeH> RoozbehOnline: thats bad. :-<
[08:46] <mib_nqq83r> where can i find the logs of previous shutdown messages?
[08:46] <Seveas> !id | sebsebseb, Ramses
[08:46] <Ramses> oh my god
[08:46] <mib_nqq83r> can't find it itn /var/log/syslog
[08:46] <bigbrovar> for those that disabled pulse audio. how do you get flash videos like in youtube to play sounds?
[08:47] <NarbeH> RoozbehOnline: what should i have to do? my modem is USB external
[08:47] <RoozbehOnline> NarbeH: u can use linuxant demo driver
[08:47] <Seveas> mib_nqq83r, /var/log/messages will show you some details on the shutdown process, but not the messages, those aren't logged
[08:47] <NarbeH> RoozbehOnline: sorry can u give me the link?
[08:47] <Seveas> bigbrovar, uninstall the flash pulseaudio thing (libflashsupport I believe)
[08:47] <RoozbehOnline> NarbeH: linuxant free driver is 14 Kb/s !
[08:48] <NarbeH> RoozbehOnline: no problem. just for Eyd :D
[08:48] <NarbeH> RoozbehOnline: the internet speed in shomal is 1 kb :D
[08:48] <RoozbehOnline> NarbeH: :))
[08:48] <RoozbehOnline> wait
[08:49] <mib_nqq83r> seveas, but now, for every shutdown, my system gets stuck at the section of shutting down the clock..
[08:49] <mib_nqq83r> and it has a message something like clock timed out or something..
[08:49] <bigbrovar> Seveas> libflashsupport is not installed
[08:50] <RoozbehOnline> NarbeH: follow it : http://www.linuxant.com/drivers/hsf/downloads-license.php
[08:50] <Seveas> bigbrovar, then I don't know :)
[08:50] <NarbeH> RoozbehOnline: thq alot
[08:50] <mib_nqq83r> bigbrovar: use gnash/usbdev/youtube-dl:)
[08:50] <RoozbehOnline> NarbeH: your well come honey
[08:50] <RoozbehOnline> ;)
[08:50] <mib_nqq83r> s/usbdev/swfdec/
[08:51] <mikebeecham> hi guys....can someone please remind me what the command is to join to .avi files together (for example *something* movie-1.jpg movie-2.jpg movie-3.jpg)
[08:51] <mikebeecham> to = two**
[08:51] <NarbeH> RoozbehOnline: oh come on men...... it's the same driver that i downloaded ...
[08:51] <ZykoticK9> mikebeecham, JPG or AVI?
[08:52] <mikebeecham> ZykoticK9: avi
[08:52] <mikebeecham> I think it's cat or foo but cant be sure
[08:52] <mikebeecham> not great in terminal :(
[08:53] <Baskak> hello. i have installed xinerama in hope i will be able to use two monitors. this resulted in blank screen after loging in. i tried to remove xinerama by entering root prompt through recovery mode and purging it. for no reason, ubuntu started to remove seemingly all packages, which i stoped forcefully. i look at the /var/log/dpkg.log now and it did execute the "purge packages" command. this...
[08:53] <ZykoticK9> mikebeecham, you can try "cat file1.avi file2.avi > combine.avi" might mess up the AVI file though...
[08:53] <Baskak> ...i DIDN'T do, AFAIK. please help in removing this xinerama problem and reconstructing ubuntu. i use ubuntustudio 8.04 with 2.6.24-21-eepc kernel on asus eee pc 900ha
[08:54] <koshari> mikebeecham if both are not exectly the same codecs, bitrate and ect your in for trouble
[08:54] <mikebeecham> koshari...they are :D
[08:54] <mikebeecham> so this should help thanks
[08:55] <koshari> if you use cat the beginning of the second file may glith if it reads the header as data
[08:55] <mikebeecham> well...I wont lose my original two files, so I can try again if it goes pear-shaped
[08:56] <koshari> mikebeecham is there any reason why you cannot use append in avidemux2?
[08:56] <RoozbehOnline> NarbeH: "D
[08:56] <NarbeH> RoozbehOnline: i think i have to download the Ubuntu that Dell recommend. http://linux.dell.com/wiki/index.php/Ubuntu_8.10
[08:56] <NarbeH> RoozbehOnline: but no halo hosele for changing :((
[08:56] <mikebeecham> koshari: nope...I've just used this route before and not used avidemux2
[08:57] <Nephyrin> Explain this nonsense to me: "sudo: unable to execute ./AdobeAIRInstaller.bin: No such file or directory". This file is there, i'm in the right folder. if i *remove* execute permissions it says "permission denied" when i try and run it, and when i *add* execute permissions it claims it stopped existing. What the hell?
[08:57] <koshari> mikebeecham ok well good luck with it,
[08:57] <ZykoticK9> mikebeecham, if you have mencoder installed a better option might be "mencoder -oac copy -ovc copy -idx -o Final_Big_Output_File.avi First_Half_Video_File.avi Other_Half_Video_File.avi"
[08:59] <ShinyHat> troubles with LogMeIn.com- tried installing java 6 and instructing logmein to default to java and i get a black screen only. anyone use logmein and know how to get it working?
[09:01] <Ramses> Enter text here...hallow sebsebseb
[09:01] <naranco> folks, getting terrible audio playback in rhythmbox after the latest ibex update
[09:02] <sebsebseb> !id  |  Ramses
[09:02] <sebsebseb> !jp  |  Ramses
[09:02] <Ramses> haw man...no understand
[09:02] <sebsebseb> naranco: Rythombox sucks,  use Banshee instead
[09:02] <sebsebseb> naranco: I used to use Rthombox untill Banshee became good
[09:03] <naranco> thx for the coment sebsebseb, it's nothing to do with rb though
[09:03] <sebsebseb> !sound
[09:03] <naranco> must be something with the audio system
[09:04] <fhqhghads> why does ubuntu see only 55 gigs of a 80 gig hard drive?
[09:04] <Topsun> Nephyrin: can you try to use the full path to AdobeAIRInstaller.bin?
[09:05] <naranco> that's all fine sebsebseb, like i said, i didnt change anything, all audio playback seems to suck after the last update
[09:05] <Nephyrin> Topsun: Tried it. When it's +x bash tells me it doesn't exist (even when i use tab completion to get the exact name). When it's -x it can suddenly see it, but obviously permission denied.
[09:05] <sebsebseb> naranco: ok no sure
[09:05] <sebsebseb> not sure
[09:05] <Nephyrin> Topsun: Works fine on my gentoo box, but my ubuntu VM hates it :-/ Some part of the wierd parsing trickery ubuntu adds to the shells.
[09:06] <Topsun> Nephyrin: does a root shell with sudo -i help?
[09:06] <ZykoticK9> Nephyrin, have you tried "sudo sh AdobeAIRInstaller.bin" from the same directory?
[09:07] <Nephyrin> Topsun: Tried that too, same error. ZykoticK: tried that, too T_T
[09:07] <BattleStarJesus> Does anyone here know about Intel supporting open source?
[09:07] <BattleStarJesus> What about AMD?
[09:07] <blip-> hi all,  I'm doing a package search for mercurial and found that Jaunty has mercurial 1.1.2..... I'm running ubuntu 8.04... would it be a bad idea to install the Jaunty package over here ?      What is Jaunty anyway
[09:08] <Seveas> !jaunty | blip-
[09:08] <Topsun> Nephyrin: thats really strange o_O
[09:08] <prince_jammys> Nephyrin: what is the error message?
[09:08] <elpargo> BattleStarJesus: suport as in money?
[09:08] <mejobloggs> if an app hangs in ubuntu, how do i close it?
[09:08] <blip-> Seveas: hmm ok so it'll probably have many dependency differences from 8.04 and thus I won't be able to install it right ?
[09:08] <Ramses> everybody hungry ? haha
[09:08] <elpargo> mejobloggs: man kill
[09:09] <Seveas> blip-, if you want to install mercurial from jaunty, install mercurial-common from jaunty as well, that should work
[09:09] <fhqhghads> mejobloggs you ned to use the force quit app
[09:09] <sebsebseb> mejobloggs: killall nameofprogramifyouknowit   or  xkill and click on it
[09:09] <Seveas> !ot | Ramses
[09:09] <ZykoticK9> mejobloggs, easiest might be type xkill in a terminal then click on the app
[09:09] <BattleStarJesus> elpargo, I am looking for an article or review that discusses processor manufactures and their support or lack there of in providing processor compatibility.
[09:09] <ZykoticK9> mejobloggs, or "killall <APPNAME>"
[09:09] <mejobloggs> xkill worked thanks!
[09:10] <sebsebseb> mejobloggs: no problem
[09:10] <blip-> Seveas: so if I get all Jaunty packages for mercurial,  I won't need to upgrade the distro or upgrade major components to get it to install ?
[09:10] <Baskak> anybody?
[09:10] <ari_stress> hi guys, how do i copy folders/file to a dvd from command line?
[09:10] <BattleStarJesus> What processors work best and worse with Linux?
[09:10] <jigp> hello guys how to update openoffice to latest version?
[09:10] <Seveas> blip-, that seems to be correct
[09:10] <zamba> i need to install mysql 4.x on ubuntu.. how can i do this?
[09:10] <Nephyrin> prince_jammys, Topsun: http://pastebin.com/m50f4e0e2
[09:10] <Seveas> zamba, take a time machine to last century :)
[09:10] <koshari> BattleStarJesus any supported cpus should work fine,
[09:10] <Baskak> hello. i have installed xinerama in hope i will be able to use two monitors. this resulted in blank screen after loging in. i tried to remove xinerama by entering root prompt through recovery mode and purging it. for no reason, ubuntu started to remove seemingly all packages, which i stoped forcefully. i look at the /var/log/dpkg.log now and it did execute the "purge packages" command. this...
[09:10] <zamba> Seveas: hehe
[09:10] <Baskak> ...i DIDN'T do, AFAIK. please help in removing this xinerama problem and reconstructing ubuntu. i use ubuntustudio 8.04 with 2.6.24-21-eepc kernel on asus eee pc 900ha
[09:11] <blip-> thanks Seveas
[09:11] <elpargo> BattleStarJesus: well they pretty much are supported accross teh board some special feature may not, but a "over all one" is hat
[09:11] <Andreas2> test
[09:11] <ZykoticK9> ari_stress, look into growisofs - this can burn folders onto a DVD, not really "copy" though
[09:11] <elpargo> BattleStarJesus: you are better off searching for "processor model + linux"
[09:12] <BattleStarJesus> koshari elpargo I am participating in a class debate of AMD vs INTEL and I am looking at it from the view of a Linux user.
[09:12] <bazhang> BattleStarJesus, please take chat to #ubuntu-offtopic thanks
[09:13] <elpargo> BattleStarJesus: is this homework?
[09:13] <ari_stress> thanks zykes-
[09:13] <koshari> BattleStarJesus your better off picking the CPU based on what your requirements are, eg arm for low poer, x86 for wide hardware support and so on
[09:13] <ari_stress> thanks ZykoticK9
[09:13] <BattleStarJesus> bazhang, whenever I go to offtopic people just blab about nonsence
[09:13] <bazhang> BattleStarJesus, this is the support channel; chat elsewhere thanks
[09:13] <Seveas> Baskak, you don't need xinerama for supporting more than one monitor. Baskak in recovery mode, install the ubuntustudio-desktop package to get most of your system back (hopefully)
[09:14] <elpargo> bazhang: it's a valid question...
[09:14] <prince_jammys> Nephyrin: what is the output of these two commands: 'file AdobeAIRblah' and 'ls -Q AdobeAIR'  (with the complete filename, obviously)
[09:14] <bazhang> elpargo, not for here; chat elsewhere thanks
[09:14] <BattleStarJesus> bazhang do you have any sugestions other than #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:14] <elpargo> BattleStarJesus: ask "I'm thinking of buying a computer to run ubuntu, which processor you think it's best"
[09:15] <elpargo> bazhang: seriously where u here 30-60min ago?
[09:15] <elpargo> this is way more #ubuntu than that...
[09:15] <Baskak> seveas: i have looked through the dpkg.log and it seems i can have a list of deinstalled packages and reinstall it. seems the biggest problem is to get rid of this xinerama problem, can you help me with it?
[09:15] <Nephyrin> prince_jammys: http://pastebin.com/m59df45de
[09:15] <Seveas> Baskak, let's first get those packages back
[09:16] <Baskak> okay, but i need to connect to the net in recovery mode somehow, let me try, i'll be back
[09:16] <BattleStarJesus> elpargo there is contraversy everywhereI go
[09:16] <Seveas> Baskak, wired or wireless?
[09:16] <prince_jammys> Nephyrin: hm. nothing funny about the filename either
[09:16] <BattleStarJesus> elpargo, some times people think I am a bot
[09:17] <prince_jammys> Nephyrin: you have a 64 bit ubuntu?
[09:18] <Nephyrin> This a 64-bit VM yeah
[09:18] <_kevin> help I can't get ubuntu to work..
[09:18] <prince_jammys> Nephyrin: i'm ignorant about that, but it may be related
[09:18] <Nephyrin> Even if it didn't like the 32-bit ELF for some reason (though Ubuntu 64 has a 32-bit libraries and userspace support) the 'no such file' error is just baffling
[09:18] <ortsvorsteher> !details | _kevin
[09:18] <prince_jammys> definitely a misleading error message
[09:19] <Seveas> Nephyrin, when do you get that error? when trying to run the executable?
[09:19] <prince_jammys> Nephyrin: that's the problem though, i bet.
[09:19] <Seveas> is it an elf executable? If so, it might specify the wrong dynamic loader. That error cost me about a day to find out once :)
[09:19] <_kevin> It never loads. The bar just goes back and forth like nightrider
[09:19] <prince_jammys> Nephyrin: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/140621
[09:19] <Nephyrin> Seveas: http://pastebin.com/m50f4e0e2
[09:20] <BattleStarJesus> Was there a time when Intel or AMD did not work with Linux?
[09:20] <Baskak> seveas: i use wireless, but i'll go to the "wired" room, and use wire - should be easier, no?
[09:20] <ortsvorsteher> _kevin: you mean at boot time?
[09:20] <Seveas> Nephyrin, open the file with 'less', do the first lines look like a shell script?
[09:20] <_kevin> no I mean when I want to start my computer
[09:20] <bazhang> BattleStarJesus, please stop
[09:20] <Nephyrin> Seveas: No, it's an ELF32 for sure
[09:20] <_kevin> oh sorry
[09:20] <prince_jammys> Nephyrin: "I've installed the 64-bit version of ubuntu 7.04 on an AMD64 system. When I try to run any 32-bit binary executable, I get a "No such file or directory" error, although I can list the files" ....
[09:20] <Seveas> Baskak, yes. PLug the wire in and use this command: sudo ifup eth0
[09:20] <_kevin> I don't know computers very well
[09:21] <Nephyrin> prince_jammys: Yeah i see that now. I guess I'm SOL :-/
[09:21] <Nephyrin> On that VM at least
[09:21] <Seveas> Nephyrin, strace ./Adobe.... and pastebin
[09:21] <ortsvorsteher> _kevin: so how long did you wait at startup that your computer turns on?
[09:21] <BattleStarJesus> bazhang I am trying to learn about hardware that is Linux compliant.
[09:21] <bazhang> !hcl > BattleStarJesus
[09:21] <prince_jammys> Nephyrin: well, your prompt made it easier to identify the problem :)
[09:22] <prince_jammys> shell prompt
[09:22] <ZykoticK9> Nephyrin, i just downloaded AdobeAIRInstaller.bin and after "chmod +x AdobeAIRInstaller.bin" it starts fine with ./AdobeAirInstaller.bin - this is on 8.10 64bit
[09:22] <_kevin> It is on, but the bar never stops moving.. it just ends at one end and starts over at the other again
[09:22] <Nephyrin> ZykoticK9: Yeah, no idea. i mean, see the pastebin. I tried every way possible of making it load it, it just refuses to
[09:22] <Nephyrin> Meanwhile, my 64-bit host linux OS handles it fine
[09:23] <willemb> Greetings
[09:23] <willemb> I find myself in a bizarre situation.
[09:23] <ortsvorsteher> _kevin: after you switched your computer on, does ubuntu starts so that you can login? ore do you still wait now 5 hours that you get a login window?
[09:23] <Seveas> Nephyrin:
[09:23] <Seveas> dennis@starfreighter:~$ ldd AdobeAIRInstaller.bin
[09:23] <Seveas> 	not a dynamic executable
[09:23] <ZykoticK9> Nephyrin, what Virtualization software are you using?  VirtualBox?
[09:23] <Seveas> Nephyrin, I don't know what you downloaded but it's broken :)
[09:24] <_kevin> I wait forever. It is stuck on the screen that shows up when I turn it on
[09:24] <willemb> I just added a dvd writer to my machine.  But neither brasero, nor nautilus seems to recognize that I should be able to write disks.  I can eject by clicking on the physical button, or by running `eject` though
[09:24] <willemb> I am a member of the cdrom group
[09:25] <ZykoticK9> Nephyrin, Seveas ya ldd AdobeAIRInstall.bin shows a list of .so files on mine???
[09:25] <prince_jammys> Nephyrin: well, there are some pages in google that seem to address this
[09:25] <Seveas> ZykoticK9, 32bit or 64?
[09:25] <ZykoticK9> 64
[09:25] <ortsvorsteher> _kevin: try to press alt+f1 keys to get an output from the computer.
[09:26] <Seveas> ZykoticK9, well, then what we downloaded is wrong :)
[09:26] <_kevin> where's the alt key?
[09:26] <prince_jammys> Nephyrin: i mean specifically for your file
[09:26] <ortsvorsteher> _kevin: left from the space key
[09:26] <Johnny1314> hello
[09:26] <BattleStarJesus> hello
[09:26] <ZykoticK9> ? I kinda doubt there is a 64 bit version of Air???
[09:27] <Johnny1314> anyone here use zinc to chat on yahoo ??
[09:27] <ShinyHat> what are the benefits of 64bit OS over 32?
[09:28] <Crshman> ShinyHat: you can allocate more than 4Gb of ram on 64b
[09:28] <daftykins> it's not really best to think of it in terms of benefits, so much as you run 64-bit if you have 4GB RAM or more
[09:28] <S_A> Hi! Is there any way to block write access for USB for normal users?
[09:28] <prince_jammys> Nephyrin: this: http://kb.adobe.com/selfservice/viewContent.do?externalId=kb408084
[09:28] <willemb> There just isn't a burn dvd option in nautilus, and brasero only lists 'image' as a potential burner
[09:29] <ShinyHat> no other difference, just ram access?
[09:29] <ZykoticK9> Nephyrin, when I try to actually run the "Adobe AIR Application Installer" I'm getting an error "Error loading the runtime (libadobecertstore.so:..." so it's not REALLY working here either...
[09:29] <Baskak_> seveas: i'm back, online, seems i have reinstalled everything.
[09:30] <Baskak_> seveas: the connecting command works miracle, thanks!
[09:30] <Nephyrin> prince_jammys: Step 13 is where i get hung up there ;-P. I did what i wanted to do with adobe air, and that launchpad bug seems to cover the issue, so i'm essentially giving up here.
[09:30] <prince_jammys> ok
[09:30] <prince_jammys> me too :)
[09:31] <paulSterio> I have an apache config file in a deployment folder in one of my site projects, why is it that when I try to symlink it: sudo ln -s apache2.conf /etc/apache2/sites-available/vacorps.com
[09:31] <paulSterio> then when I go to that directory - it is highlighted in black and the text color is red
[09:31] <ZykoticK9> willemb, you might want to try K3B - it'll bring in a bunch of KDE libs, but it's probably the best CD/DVD burner in linux.  Just a suggestion.
[09:32] <BattleStarJesus> How do I get unbanned from a channel?
[09:32] <prince_jammys> BattleStarJesus: talk to the ops
[09:32] <ZykoticK9> paulSterio, I think your link is backwards "sudo ln -s /etc/apache2.../vacorps.com apache2.conf"
[09:33] <Flannel> BattleStarJesus: #ubuntu-ops is the place to go if its an Ubuntu channel
[09:33] <ohletmeinnowjesu> hi guys
[09:33] <WaB-> Hi thur
[09:33] <ohletmeinnowjesu> i need help with matlab 6.5 r13 installation via wine, can someone help me out?
[09:33] <ZykoticK9> paulSterio, the red/black text means it's a broken link, use ls -l to see where it's pointing
[09:33] <dxdemetriou> from the first updates after upgrading to Intrepid I can't automount usb and external disks, and I have an error message about hal. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/292874
[09:34] <paulSterio> ln: creating symbolic link `apache2.conf': File exists
[09:34] <zamba> how can i see the ubuntu version i'm running?
[09:34] <ZykoticK9> zamba, cat /etc/issues
[09:35] <Topsun> paulSterio: then remove it first
[09:35] <ZykoticK9> paulSterio, go to where you want the link to reside, then use "ln -s /actual/file/location linkname"
[09:35] <paulSterio> yea I've done that
[09:36] <ZykoticK9> paulSterio, are you still getting the red text?
[09:36] <paulSterio> ok it's because I didn't give the full location
[09:36] <paulSterio> now it's in blue
[09:36] <paulSterio> a2ensite?
[09:37] <zamba> i need to downgrade mysql from version 5.x to version 4.x.. is there no where i can get packages for this?
[09:37] <ohletmeinnowjesu> hi guys  i need help with matlab 6.5 r13 installation via wine, can someone help me out?
[09:37] <Topsun> paulSterio: yes
[09:37] <Baskak_> Seveas: what next, shall I wait?
[09:38] <Athenon> im using intrepid.  /etc/hostname doesnt exist.  is that bad?  I want my hostname to stay permanently and I don't know how to do it without that file
[09:38] <mrwoody> does anyone know where I can find the repository for the latest version of mplayer?
[09:38] <koshari> ohletmeinnowjesu have you tried winehq?
[09:38] <koshari> mrwoody medibuntu?
[09:38] <daftykins> Athenon, just create it and put your hostname in there ;) job done
[09:38] <mikebeecham> does anyone know why, when you reboot your machine, Intrepid adds another wired connection (with dynamic IP)?
[09:38] <mrwoody> koshari: thanks... I'll give a look
[09:39] <ohletmeinnowjesu> koshari: no, whats the channel name
[09:39] <Athenon> daftykins:  so i just type "subaru" and save it?
[09:39] <ZykoticK9> mikebeecham, my Intrepid doesn't do that???
[09:39] <daftykins> if that's what your hostname currently is, yeah Athenon , check in /etc/hosts
[09:40] <mikebeecham> ZykoticK9: I have created a static IP connection.  When I reboot I still have my static connection, but intrepid adds another dynamic connection..so then I have two.  I have to delete the dynamic to get back to the static...if that makes sense?
[09:41] <ohletmeinnowjesu> koshari: nvm i found it
[09:42] <paulSterio> ok so I have these settings loaded, I've reloaded apache, here is a copy of my configuration for the apache site I'm trying to load up. http://dpaste.com/8603/ I'm trying to get a django project up and running - how do I now tell the browser to point to http://vacorps.com like one would do on windows system32/drivers/etc/host
[09:42] <ZykoticK9> mikebeecham, i've set static as well - this might be related to Network Manager Applet, but I don't know for sure.  I did have some issues with static IP origionally...  mind pastbining your /etc/network/interfaces file???
[09:42] <prince_jammys> paulSterio: you should try also #apache
[09:42] <daftykins> paulSterio, /etc/hosts for Linux
[09:42] <mikebeecham> will do ZykoticK9
[09:43] <daftykins> mikebeecham, that sounds like the network manager driving you spare, you can resolve it by specifying your /etc/network/interfaces correctly so that network manager no longer handles that interface, useful for desktops
[09:44] <daftykins> haven't seen it create a second though, and i'm not running my desktop as static so i haven't seen that
[09:44] <OzFalcon> Whats the diff between online training offered by www.ubuntu.com/training/e-learning OR ubuntu.savoirfairelinux.com/elearning/ ????
[09:44] <mikebeecham> ZykoticK9: I only have two lines in my interfaces file
[09:45] <ZykoticK9> mikebeecham, if you have set a static IP you should have more then that
[09:45] <paulSterio> daftykins, how do I write to the hosts file? it's read only
[09:45] <mikebeecham> daftykins: I might look into that thanks....it's not a big hassle, but it's inconvenient
[09:45] <paulSterio> !wq
[09:45] <sf-> Good morning all, I've got a helluva problem and my forehead is aching. I'm about to post, just wanted to dispense with the pleasantries so that I can sleep better at night. j/k :)
[09:45] <ZykoticK9> paulSterio, you need to be root to edit hosts
[09:45] <ZykoticK9> paulSterio, so use sudo
[09:46] <OzFalcon> There are no problems, only solutions.
[09:46] <OzFalcon> Puke
[09:46] <daftykins> paulSterio, "sudo nano /etc/hosts" in terminal for command line, or "sudo gedit /etc/hosts" for a GUI editor
[09:46] <paulSterio> does this file reset every time you go to a new network?
[09:46] <daftykins> scrub that, "gksudo gedit /etc/hosts" for GUI based is better
[09:46] <daftykins> no it's a static file
[09:47] <sf-> I've got an Ubuntu gateway/firewall setup with 192.168.0.0/22 setup on eth0 and Comcast setup on eth1, on the inside at 192.168.0.3 is my webserver with aliases setup on eth0:1-9 for 192.168.0.100-110 and I have apache setup for Virtual Hosts on the aforementioned IPs.
[09:47] <OzFalcon> sf-, Whats the prob? Virtual hosts?
[09:47] <sf-> With my old linksys gatewat it didn't seem to have any config issues to serve 'as-is' but now all of my connections are timing out and I can't quite figure out the iptables forwarding rules I need.
[09:48] <paulSterio> I just get a failed to connect error now
[09:48] <sf-> OzFalcon: correct
[09:48] <endial> Ok guys I have done some looking online and cant find a way to do this without losing data.  Anyone know how to create a partition on my HDD that has ubuntu installed on it so that I can install a copy of windows without having to pick up another HDD.
[09:48] <psyalex>  hi, can anybody help me with the USB HD automount (8.10/Gnome)? I want to disable it because geparted is always mounting the ntfs partition I want to copy.
[09:48] <OzFalcon> sf-, I'm yet to go down that path, But I saw it as a potential problem.
[09:49] <daftykins> psyalex, just unmount it once you plug it in
[09:49] <daftykins> no need to go as far as disabling
[09:49] <psyalex> I tried to unmount it many times but gparted is mounting it again
[09:50] <zcopley> Why is it so hard to pick a laptop to run ubuntu on?
[09:50] <S_A> Hi! any idea how to make sure that all the Network data is encrypted in transit. ???
[09:50] <daftykins> zcopley, because it depends whether you want everything to work or not :D
[09:50] <daftykins> S_A network data between where and where?
[09:51] <OzFalcon> sf-, Whats the deal with the ubuntu gateway IP address?
[09:51] <zcopley> daftykins: I do want everythign to work! Does that even narrow my options?
[09:51] <OzFalcon> sf-, Whats this 192.168.0.0/22?
[09:51] <sf-> OzFalcon: 192.168.0.1-192.168.3.254
[09:52] <daftykins> well i mean daft stuff like built-in webcams, finger print readers etc zcopley
[09:52] <daftykins> are you in the US?
[09:52] <sf-> Have desktops, wifi trusted/untrusted, network equipment, and server segments.
[09:52] <zcopley> daftykins: oh
[09:52] <S_A> daftykins: All the network data. be it firefox or any other application in local system. All the data out of my system should be encrypted. I have heard that IPSec and SSL is the way
[09:52] <OzFalcon> sf-, Ummm, You can make an eth have that many IP's?
[09:52] <S_A> daftykins: but i do not know how to make it possible ?
[09:52] <sf-> OzFalcon: Go crazy, want a quick snippit of my interfaces file via privmsg?
[09:53] <daftykins> S_A IPSec is a type of VPN technology that you'd use to connect to somewhere safely from a public place, such as free internet in an internet cafe
[09:53] <zcopley> webcams don't seem /that/ daft. Just sort of. I mean, windows and mac users get to use those... so their kids can do vid chat with the grandparents
[09:53] <daftykins> S_A there's no reason to use any kind of that encryption on your own home internet connection
[09:53] <ari_stress> hi, can i use cdrecord to write more than 1 files?
[09:53] <OzFalcon> sf-,
[09:54] <sf-> yes?
[09:54] <OzFalcon> sf-, Let me get this straight
[09:54]  * sf- lights a camel and smiles.
[09:54] <ZykoticK9> ari_stress, cdrecord is typically used in conjunction with mkisofs, so it burns one file (the entire CD with potentially hundreds of files inside it) onto the CD
[09:55] <S_A> daftykins: I am trying to convince my finance/marketing department to switch to Linux. but this is the requirement they have putup
[09:55]  * daftykins watches said camel run off over the sand dunes making horrible noises
[09:55] <OzFalcon> sf-, Your gateway takes traffic on the web and directs it out on your lan via 192.168.0.1-192.168.3.254 addresses...?
[09:56] <sf-> OzFalcon: Correct.
[09:56] <zcopley> I can't figure out which Lanovo laptop to get... my main concern is just making sure most of it works. T500? W500? It seems like there's no telling whether the laptop you buy will drive you insane with configuration time and driver madness
[09:56] <OzFalcon> sf-, All which get sent to 192.168.0.3
[09:56] <daftykins> S_A encryption needs to exist between two points, if i'm in a company and i'm using a desktop computer which uses an internet connection then there's no reason to implement encryption because there's no two places between me and the Internet that isn't safe, sorta, do you get me?
[09:56] <OzFalcon> sf-, So Webserver can know which virtual host to direct to.... Correct?
[09:57] <sf-> OzFalcon: No, .3 is just the management side of my apache server and on eth0 of that server I have eth0:1-9 aliases setup for 192.168.0.100-110 for apache to use a vhosts
[09:57] <S_A> daftykins: You are right.
[09:57] <_dbd_l12> is adding an entry in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist the same as issuing modprobe -r xxx ?
[09:58] <daftykins> S_A i'd understand if maybe you had another office somewhere else and you needed to setup an IPSec VPN between the Internet-side routers of each one so that you could just network between the two
[09:58] <OzFalcon> sf-, Question. How does the Gateway determine which 192.168.0.1-192.168.3.254 to send out of?
[09:58] <ZykoticK9> zcopley, you might be interested in https://wiki.edubuntu.org/LaptopTestingTeam - they have a list of laptops and what is and isn't supported.  good luck.
[09:59] <groensal> Hi I have a friend who is trying to install ubuntu 8.10 on a 2-disk raid 0, byt his problem is that ubuntu sees 2 disks instead of the raid configuration
[09:59] <sf-> OzFalcon: To send out of? iptables related flag
[09:59] <S_A> daftykins: right. marketing ppl access intranet from outside
[09:59] <sf-> The question is how do you get apache/iptables to recognize which virtual host was requested
[09:59] <sf-> as I said, it worked with the linksys but not so much with the ubuntu gateway
[10:00] <sf-> do I forward all traffic to the management IP and apache does something wizbang? do I craft multiple iptable forwards?
[10:00] <sf-> it 'just worked' with the linksys, all traffic forwarded to the management IP
[10:00] <daftykins> S_A ah ok, that makes sense. do they get given laptops/PCs for home use to access the intranet from home?
[10:00] <OzFalcon> sf-, ie does gateway read the request header (eg say from xyz.com) and determine that for example is sent via 192.168.2.100
[10:01] <platius> zcopley; http://tuxmobil.org/howtos.html   http://www.linux-laptop.net/    have you looked here?
[10:01] <S_A> daftykins: yes
[10:02] <daftykins> S_A tbh the only thing i can think of would involve them being quite competent :D you might be better off googling around for that, i don't even know what i'd google for
[10:02] <daftykins> something along the lines of "road warrior vpn"
[10:02] <sf-> OzFalcon: You're going a bit deeper than I am familiar with, my guess would be apache figures out which host was requested via vhosts and the traffic continues oblivious to the process due to iptables' 'related/established' flag.
[10:02] <zcopley> Yeah, i looked at those places, but there's no clear answer.  I just want someone to tell me, "this is the cool laptop to get for ubuntu"
[10:02] <OzFalcon> sf-, Back on topic. So you replaced your linksys gateway with an ubuntu gateway. And now no joy.
[10:03] <sf-> OzFalcon: Plenty of joy, lots of pain. :)
[10:03] <Myrtti> #ubuntu is testing
[10:03] <groensal> he has the disks in raid0 in the bios
[10:03] <S_A> daftykins: :) ok
[10:03] <OzFalcon> sf-, And if you stick the linksys back, It still works......?
[10:03] <groensal> but ubuntu doesnÃ't recognize the raid and instead sees 2 disks
[10:04] <sf-> OzFalcon: correct, I'm doing an iptables -L on the linksys and comparing/contrasting.
[10:04] <daftykins> groensal, is this onboard intel chipset based RAID?
[10:04] <sf-> it's running dd-wrt
[10:06] <groensal> daftykins: he has a intel motherboard
[10:06] <OzFalcon> sf-, ok. I still don't quite understand vhosts etc. (Beyond my experience.....YET). But let do some simplifying....
[10:06] <daftykins> where did he configure the RAID though groensal ?
[10:06] <groensal> in the bios
[10:07] <ZykoticK9> sf-, i'm running dd-wrt on my linksys too, it can certainly forward stuff by Port number, but I'm unaware of it being able to do Header inspection and forward on that (that's something that needs to be done in Apache)???
[10:07] <OzFalcon> sf-, You had it working under a linksys gateway..... These arn't real complicated at the best of times.... So Im guessing you don't need a hugely complicated gateway.
[10:07] <daftykins> ok but i need to know what BIOS ;) the controller's BIOS, so i need to know what controller
[10:08] <OzFalcon> sf-, Oh, Why the change. If it was working under linksys why change to ubuntu box?
[10:08] <Baskak> Seveas?
[10:08] <groensal> daftykins: mkey ;) will try to get that info
[10:08] <groensal> its a intel 945PM+ICH7-M motherboard
[10:08] <sf-> OzFalcon: not sure, hold on one second please
[10:09] <groensal> its called via raid
[10:09] <groensal> in the bios
[10:09] <daftykins> does he know the make and model?
[10:09] <ideamonk> hey someone tell me this - in firefox, when i click browse on a website to select a file for upload, the dialog box which pops up... who creates it, firefox or gnome ?
[10:09] <daftykins> ok does he have some kind of little VIA SATA RAID controller card that the HDDs connect to groensal ?
[10:10] <groensal> its a laptop so he doesnt know
[10:10] <OzFalcon> sf-, To continue..... If you don't need a complicated gateway, Why not try installing Smoothwall? Or possibly IP-COP (Never used IP-COP)
[10:10] <groensal> a fujitsu siemens amilo 15x1
[10:11] <daftykins> laptop O_O
[10:11] <daftykins> weird
[10:11] <groensal> uh AMILO Xi 1546 i mean :P
[10:11] <Baskak> okay, my question again: i have installed xinerama in hope i can use two monitors. now after login the screen turns blank without any chance to change it. i use ubuntustudio 8.04 with 2.6.24-21-eeepc kernel on asus ee pc 900ha
[10:11] <ZykoticK9> OzFalcon, Smoothwall is more an OS then an installable application...
[10:11] <remes> hello, I'm using a Dell XPS M1210 Lap w/Ubuntu 8.1, my lap doesn't have microphone, so I need to plug a microphone or an other USB sound device, but ubuntu only has recognized built in devices, not external ones
[10:12] <groensal> daftykins: yeah it came that way with windows xp home
[10:12] <OzFalcon> ZykoticK9, Yeah, But he replaced a linksys gateway with an ubuntu box. It would be simpler to have replaced the linksys with a smoothwall box.
[10:13] <daftykins> with the RAID 0?
[10:13] <daftykins> <3 smoothwall
[10:13] <OzFalcon> ?
[10:13] <corigo3> My latest version of Adept is acting funny. When I click Edit Software Sources, it checks the repositories and tells me operation done, but never gives me access to the interface to edit source list
[10:13] <groensal> yeah it came with the raid stuff
[10:13] <zgmf-x42s> hey all, how can i create a partition from my main ext3 partion which has lin install.  ie, it is 100gb, and i want to shrink it to 80gb and crate a 20gb fat32 partiion.
[10:13] <daftykins> ok i think from my limited knowledge, Linux generally doesn't like VIA RAID
[10:14] <corigo3> What is the name and location of the file that contains the list of sources? I edit it once before, but forgot to note it
[10:14] <daftykins> /etc/apt/sources.list corigo3
[10:14] <ZykoticK9> OzFalcon, i agree, the DD-WRT he has on his Linksys is sorta a slimmed down version of Smoothwall - but I don't think he could have had the Virtual Host Header feature he's talking about with either DDWRT or Smoothwall - that's an Apache thing???
[10:14] <corigo3> daftykins: thanks
[10:14] <groensal> aww too bad daftykins
[10:15] <akio> anyone here know what the deal is with dvd drives that don't see inserted dvd's?
[10:15] <daftykins> i could be wrong groensal but if your friend is using the latest ubuntu desktop 8.10 CD and it sees two hard disks and it should definitely be in RAID 0, then it is probably unlikely he'll get it working easily
[10:15] <daftykins> what kind of discs akio? self written?
[10:16] <pyrohotdog> Can anyone assist me with get direct rendering on my Radeon set up? Or point me in the right direction..
[10:16] <akio> no
[10:16] <akio> movies
[10:16] <OzFalcon> ZykoticK9, Yeah. I dunno what he's doing...... Either it's beyond my knowledge or he's doing something wrong.... But it was working..... So perhaps his expination of whats happening is wrong.
[10:16] <akio> ubuntu-restricted-extras is installed
[10:16] <ZykoticK9> OzFalcon, I'm as lost as you are :)
[10:16] <akio> lshw says there isn't a dvd in there
[10:16] <groensal> daftykins: right
[10:16] <groensal> thanks anyway :)
[10:16] <akio> works in winblows
[10:17] <blip-> hi all,  the hdparm requires admin privs to set parameters,  I added "hdparm -B 255 /dev/sda" to /etc/rc.local so that it will automatically turn off power managment on my hard disk on boot... but this command isn't getting issued... I still have to manually run it with sudo after I log in.  any ideas why ?    thanks
[10:17] <Baskak> anybody?
[10:17] <OzFalcon> Anyone familia with Ubuntu Training?
[10:18] <akio> daftykins: any more ideas?
[10:18] <daftykins> are they official films?
[10:19] <akio> yep
[10:19] <akio> NTSC on NTSC
[10:19] <zgmf-x42s> ok, how do i sudo open gparted then???  maybe that will work
[10:19] <norro> hi. is it possible with launchpad to associate a bug with a certain PPA?
[10:19] <stokee1> hey guys, just installed ubuntu on my toshiba l35 and i get no wireless signal... dont know what to do, checked out system specific settings and still can't get it to work, maybe it's driver specific?
[10:20] <daftykins> do you know if your wireless hardware is supported stokee1 ?
[10:20] <stokee1> atheros, definitely, it was supported at 7.10 build
[10:20] <zgmf-x42s> hey all, does anyone know how to sudo open gparted?
[10:20] <b1n42y> stokee1, has your hardware been detected and installed
[10:21] <stokee1> i just install 8.10
[10:21] <b1n42y> gksu gparted
[10:21] <stokee1> it was working when i was using 7.10
[10:21] <daftykins> fresh install?
[10:21] <stokee1> yup
[10:21] <daftykins> no ideas i'm afraid akio, not used any optical media with my ubuntu yet ^_^
[10:21] <b1n42y> !hardware | daftykins
[10:22] <daftykins> b1n42y, why did you just tell me that?
[10:22] <akio> daftykins: because you're daft
[10:22] <warlock_handler> hi i have ubuntu 7.10 running.. how do i chk if i have the right nvidia drivers?
[10:22] <b1n42y> daftykins, misread  do you know if your wireless hardware is supported stokee1 ?
[10:22] <Gast653> there are italians?
[10:22] <ZykoticK9> stokee1, do you have access to a wired connection?  with one of my wireless cards i need to do updates first, then a driver shows up for the wireless in "Hardware Drivers"
[10:22] <daftykins> b1n42y, please pay attention to who is actually asking for help in future rather than just pointing things at me :P
[10:23] <zgmf-x42s> b1n42y: thanks,,,, worked, but still wont allow me to make a new partion, how frustrating
[10:23] <warlock_handler> any link also would do
[10:23] <b1n42y> zgmf-x42s, you cant work on 'live systems use gparted live cd
[10:23] <Gast653> ci sono italiani
[10:23] <Gast653> ?
[10:24] <b1n42y> !italian | Gast653
[10:24] <zgmf-x42s> b1n42y: oooo yahhhhhhhhh thats how it did it last time!  lol.  well this time i have to do from usb, no cd drive, but should be same deal
[10:24] <zgmf-x42s> thanks man
[10:24] <b1n42y> zgmf-x42s,i guess
[10:24] <b1n42y> np
[10:25] <norro> is it possible with launchpad to associate a bug with a certain PPA?
[10:25] <lassegul> does Ubuntu Netbook remix have an IRC-channel?
[10:25] <ari_stress> netbook remix? what's that
[10:25] <b1n42y> ari_stress, ubuntu derivative for netbooks
[10:25] <ZykoticK9> lassegul, what's your NBR issue?
[10:25] <ari_stress> oh
[10:26] <ari_stress> netbook is not notebook?
[10:26] <lassegul> ZykoticK9: im wondering about the planned release date of 1.2
[10:26] <daftykins> netbooks are the very small cheap computers (SCCs)
[10:26] <ZykoticK9> lassegul, no idea
[10:26] <b1n42y> ari_stress, this is not wiki
[10:27] <ari_stress> b1n42y, thanks :)
[10:27] <b4chip> hi there
[10:27] <b4chip> if two users are logged to a same machine
[10:28] <b4chip> how can I see them
[10:28] <ari_stress> b4chip, use: w or who
[10:29] <b4chip> ubuntu comes woith talk instaled
[10:29] <b4chip> or not?
[10:29] <ZykoticK9> b4chip, "talk" installed?  what's talk?
[10:29] <Baskak> okay, my question again: i have installed xinerama in hope i can use two monitors. now after login the screen turns blank without any chance to change it. i use ubuntustudio 8.04 with 2.6.24-21-eeepc kernel on asus ee pc 900ha
[10:29] <ari_stress> b4chip, no, u still use it? so 80s :)
[10:29] <ulisse_> !ciao
[10:30] <ulisse_> !list
[10:30] <b4chip> what else can i use?
[10:30] <daftykins> b4chip, you just want to know a way to see who's logged into one computer?
[10:30] <b4chip> yes
[10:30] <John_Priest> b4chip: type who in a terminal
[10:30] <b4chip> and now i wana talk with on of them
[10:30] <daftykins> "who -a" in terminal is good
[10:30] <ari_stress> i think b4chip wants to "talk" to the other user in that pc from command line
[10:31] <zamba> which glibc version does 8.04 use?
[10:31] <daftykins> you can use the command "wall" b4chip , "man wall" for more info
[10:31] <ari_stress> well b4chip here's a quick tips for that:
[10:31] <pyrohotdog> Can anyone assist in setting up my ATI driver?
[10:32] <ari_stress> b4chip, as user1: echo "hi user2" > /tmp/chat.txt, as user2: cat /tmp/chat.txt
[10:32] <ZykoticK9> Baskak, can you see if there is an option in your xorg.conf that says: Option "Xinerama" "on", and change the "on" to "off"???
[10:32] <ari_stress> b4chip, then both user1 and user2 can "talk"
[10:32] <Baskak> ZykoticK9: i will check, moment
[10:33] <b1n42y> Baskak, also if you dont resolve your problem here try http://www.paralipsis.org/2006/01/enabling-xinerama-in-ubuntu/
[10:33] <panesar_sandeep> can ne1 tell me about visual basic channel
[10:33] <ZykoticK9> b4chip, "talk" and "ytalk" are available in the reps
[10:35] <zamba> which glibc version is ubuntu 8.04 running?
[10:35] <OzFalcon> is bzr easy to setup/use?
[10:36] <daftykins> i could tell you zamba if i knew the apt command to check a package's version
[10:37] <daftykins> :D can someone tell me?
[10:37] <ZykoticK9> b4chip, "sudo apt-get install talk"
[10:37] <b4chip> yep
[10:37] <b4chip> thx
[10:37] <b1n42y> daftykins, -v or --version
[10:38] <daftykins> can you show me a full context b1n42y  ?
[10:38] <daftykins> "aptitude <package> -v ?
[10:38] <almost> hi
[10:38] <b1n42y> daftykins, i was thinking installed wait one
[10:38] <almost> need help with gpg heres the problem
[10:38] <ZykoticK9> daftykins, "sudo apt-cache showpkg talk" also shows version info
[10:38] <toddoon> Can someone help me to optimize my boot process because i have one process which take too much time, i give you the bootchartlog http://img6.imageshack.us/my.php?image=intrepid200903071.png
[10:39] <daftykins> yep thanks ZykoticK9 just typed it that very second too XD
[10:39] <almost> everytime I sign a key the top part of the key and bottom part has '-" missing
[10:40] <almost> ie - -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----
[10:40] <kriscolt> clear
[10:40] <magnetron> !enter | almost
[10:40] <archman> Did anyone here burned a psx game successfully ever (on ubuntu, of course...)??
[10:40] <b1n42y> daftykins, or aptitude -v package name
[10:41] <almost> magnetron: what do you mean please?
[10:42] <b1n42y> daftykins, hmm that doesnt work silly man page
[10:42] <daftykins> b1n42y, can't get that one working, i tried "aptitude -v nmap"
[10:42] <Baskak> ZykoticK9: no, there's nothing about xinerama there. i have also tried the "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg" command, as suggested in xorg.conf header, to no result. i will have a look at the link provided by bln42y
[10:42] <almost> the command i use is gpg --clearsign some.txt file
[10:43] <archman> Anyone here burned a psx game from image, maybe? (reformulated question)
[10:43] <kriscolt> does anyone know how to add mplayer to the panel? or any newly installed app for that matter
[10:43] <juxta> I'm trying to do .htaccess authentication against system users, but it requires that apache can read /etc/shadow - is this a very bad idea?
[10:43] <daftykins> which panel kriscolt ?
[10:44] <kriscolt> gnome
[10:44] <kriscolt> sorry
[10:44] <mrwes> Archman; you can copy the disk byte for byte with the dd command
[10:44] <daftykins> no i mean sorta graphically
[10:44] <magnetron> kriscolt→ right click, add new object, choose "launcher"
[10:44] <daftykins> you want it to the side of the applications,places,system menus?
[10:44] <kriscolt> anywhere
[10:44] <kriscolt> doesn't matter
[10:44] <magnetron> kriscolt→ you tried my instructions?=
[10:44] <archman> mrwes: I'm looking for burning bin/cue...This is just hell...
[10:45] <daftykins> yeah like magnetron says then
[10:45] <kriscolt> trying now
[10:45] <archman> mrwes: You know how to do it?
[10:45] <_Whipper__> how do i part vista, before i install Caos, of some other Lin?
[10:45] <kriscolt> it keeps defaulting to Totem
[10:45] <daftykins> you can resize NTFS partitions with Vista by running "diskmgmt.msc" _Whipper__
[10:45] <kriscolt> i'm trying to get just ordinary mplayer up there
[10:46] <b1n42y> kriscolt, right click add to panle , sutom launcher in command add gmplayer %F
[10:46] <daftykins> oh you're talking about default applications to run video kriscolt ?
[10:46] <kriscolt> yeah
[10:46] <_Whipper__> dafty:...but that bastard vista has taken my whole HD
[10:46] <mrwes> archman, try this thread using K3B http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=209547
[10:46] <daftykins> yes so use diskmgmt.msc to resize it _Whipper__
[10:47] <_Whipper__> dafty: last time i tried to resize, it went all down the toilet..
[10:47] <stealth-> How could I recreate the method ubuntu uses to mount drives from the command line? So all users can write to it (well, I would like to aim for one user specifically, but all works too, I guess).
[10:47] <_Whipper__> vista doesnt like resizing, i suppose..
[10:47] <stealth-> there are certain windows formats you cant safely resize...
[10:48] <stealth-> you guys know that, right?
[10:48] <ZykoticK9> kriscolt, Right Click a video icon in Nautilus, Open With tab, then you can "Add" mplayer if it isn't there already
[10:48] <b1n42y> kriscolt, how did you go
[10:48] <daftykins> Vista's modification to the NTFS format allowed resizing stealth-
[10:48] <daftykins> minor version change
[10:48] <stealth-> daftykins: ah, thanks for that :)
[10:48] <daftykins> np
[10:48] <kriscolt> hmm... maybe mplayer ain't installed right
[10:48] <_Whipper__> stealth: yep, but the thing is, vista has hmm.. 4 parts in my hd..
[10:49] <kriscolt> it's not available in the list of apps with the rightclick->openwith option
[10:49] <stealth-> _Whipper__: ah, I see
[10:49] <_Whipper__> dafty: wrong
[10:49] <ZykoticK9> kriscolt, click ADD
[10:49] <ZykoticK9> kriscolt, then "use custom comand" and type in mplayer - done
[10:49] <Mpole> greetings everyone. am trying to help a friend upgrade from 7.04 to 8.10. is it possible?
[10:50] <daftykins> yes Mpole run "gksudo update-manager -c" i think it is
[10:50] <kriscolt> sweet
[10:50] <kriscolt> it's working
[10:50] <_Whipper__> *huoh* ill just try to figure out whats the prblm..
[10:50] <b1n42y> !upgrade | Mpole
[10:50] <kriscolt> question is will it still work after logging out
[10:50] <ZykoticK9> kriscolt, yup
[10:50] <Baskak> ZykoticK9: i found "Initailizing built-in extension XINERAMA" in /var/log/Xorg.0.log though
[10:50] <Mpole> daftykins: i did something like that, seems it didt work....
[10:51] <daftykins> worth trying again then maybe Mpole
[10:51] <Mpole> b1n42y: is that a terminal command? | how should my software sources be set up?
[10:51] <ZykoticK9> Baskak, mine has that too :(  I'm using TwinView, not really Xinerama
[10:51] <kriscolt> i'm running on an old ppc imac, should i even bother trying to mess with compiz?
[10:51] <Baskak> there's also something about "display planes", disabling "display plane a"
[10:52] <Mpole> b1n42y: command not found... so says bash! LOL :-)
[10:52] <ZykoticK9> Baskak, have you tried moving xorg.conf to xorg.conf.backup then tried restarting X???
[10:52] <b1n42y> Mpole, i didnt give you the command i gave you internet link worth reading i guess
[10:52] <Baskak> and "Output VGA is connected to pipe none"
[10:53] <Baskak> i'll check
[10:53] <Mpole> b1n42y: thanks, am reading that now...
[10:53] <b1n42y> Mpole, Skipping versions is not advised as it may cause damage to your system.
[10:53] <PowerMM> Hello, I have a external hard drive that I can't get to come back.  I clicked on it and it complained of I/O errors.  Then I unmounted it, and don't see how to mount it back.
[10:53] <PowerMM> Any ideas?
[10:53] <Karan> is it possible to give certain users all perms on a folder/file and some users just read access?
[10:53] <Karan> and if so, how :)
[10:53] <pucko-> can anyone tell me in which file I should add commands I want to run when X starts? (I have a feeling .bashrc is the wrong one)
[10:53] <pucko-> ?
[10:54] <Mpole> b1n42y: that link assumes that i am already on 8.04. the route is long but worthwhile. i need to go to 7.10, then 8.04 then 8.10
[10:54] <b1n42y> Karan, yes it is
[10:54] <Karan> b1n42y: how would i do that :)
[10:54] <b1n42y> Mpole, Skipping versions is not advised as it may cause damage to your system.
[10:54] <Mpole> b1n42y: am currently having problems going to 7.10. how do i do that from the terminal?
[10:54] <ZykoticK9> pucko System / Prefs / Sessions will do it
[10:55] <b1n42y> Mpole, In my opinion backup your docs and do fresh install
[10:55] <b1n42y> data*
[10:55] <ZykoticK9> pucko-, .bashrc IS the wrong one for sure, not related to Xorg at all.
[10:55] <pucko-> ZykoticK9: but I want it to work in any wm/de I use
[10:55] <mrwes> Mpole, same here -- do a fresh install
[10:55] <Mpole> b1n42y: i guess i should download the 8.10 ISO, right?
[10:55] <b1n42y> yep
[10:55] <ZykoticK9> pucko-, maybe in .xinitrc but be sure to put a "&" at the end of each command
[10:55] <mrwes> Mpole, you have /home on a separate partition?
[10:56] <PowerMM> Should I restart X or something to see if the drive shows back up ?
[10:56] <Mpole> b1n42y: this laptop has a dual OS... Windows XP and Ubuntu. If i install a fresh 8.10 distro, will the WinXP be removed or the 7.10 will be simply upgraded?
[10:56] <mufasis> how do i use tar to extract a file
[10:56] <Mpole> ooops, i meant 7.04
[10:56] <Mpole> lol
[10:57] <b1n42y> PowerMM, sounds like it hasnt been unmounted properly at some stage
[10:57] <ZykoticK9> mufasis, "tar xvf Filename"
[10:57] <PowerMM> b1n42y, it just went off and I couldn't use it.. so I unplugged/replugged it.. and then umounted it..
[10:57] <PowerMM> I was thinking maybe the wires where loose
[10:57] <mufasis> what are the flags for
[10:57] <Baskak> ZykoticK9: i managed to get into the normal x desktop when i did startx from root prompt (recovery mode) after what you suggested. however, i didn't try it before, i tried to login "normally" only. is there anything i can do from here?
[10:58] <b1n42y> Mpole, hmmm, well where it installs depends on which partitions you choose, however im not sure about grub, best read
[10:58] <b1n42y> !dualboot | Mpole
[10:58] <tom_eats_lives> I cant seem install memcoder obsolete package what i do ?
[10:58] <ZykoticK9> Baskak, ummm, not that I can think of...
[10:59] <tom_eats_lives> I don't want to install from tar ball , pain to remove.
[10:59] <b1n42y> PowerMM, just using it with linux?
[10:59] <Baskak> it seems something loads somewhere during normal startup that causes the problem
[10:59] <PowerMM> b1n42y, No.  It's NTFS
[10:59] <Baskak> but not in xorg.conf
[11:00] <ZykoticK9> Baskak, I got nothing????
[11:00] <tom_eats_lives> get synaptic error http://pastebin.com/m5218e685
[11:00] <Baskak> i have found the following installed xinerama-related packages in synaptic: libdmx1, libxinerama-dev, libxinerama1, totem-gstreamer, x11proto-xinerama-dev
[11:01] <Baskak> any idea that something should be garbaged?
[11:01] <b1n42y> PowerMM,  yeah im no expert but you in my opinion you can either stick it in a win machine and remove it safely or try looking for ntfs unmount commands, sounds like it hasnt been unmounted properly
[11:01] <archman> thank you mrwes
[11:01] <boodomi> thsi is my ‏first time ever i use linux...and i have question..i have 2 operating systems why does linux have 15gb free space and windows over 200? can i chance it somehow??
[11:01] <PowerMM> b1n42y, I'll see what happens when I restart x
[11:02] <archman> mrwes, hope this will help, 'cause I'm starting to hate linux slowly...
[11:02] <ZykoticK9> tom_eats_lives, are you trying to install mencoder?  if so it's in the medibuntu repo.  your error is due to a PPA being added to your sources list, without the corresponding key....
[11:02] <b1n42y> Power , that wont work ...
[11:02] <b1n42y> arg
[11:02] <twistedr> hi! could some one check http://raveesh.net63.net to see if it is working?
[11:02] <emil> hi
[11:02] <emil> anyone can tell me, what's the best port for SSH?
[11:02] <b1n42y> twistedr, ye
[11:03] <emil> 443>
[11:03] <emil> ?
[11:03] <Milkeh> how can I set a shutdown timer?
[11:03] <twistedr> b1n42y: thanks
[11:04] <twistedr> Milkeh: http://micrux.net/?p=42
[11:04] <tom_eats_lives> ZykoticK9,  ok , il just remove it from source file , hope not to important
[11:04] <benovic> I debian(sidux) OS as a second OS, but still have the ubuntu grub. now i cant boot into debian because grub is not showing the entries for sidux. i tried to add sidux manually to /boot/grub/menu.lst but failed miserably. now i want to just copy the entries from the sidux grub (which doesnt get loaded) to my ubuntu grub. will that mess up tings? thanks for your help!
[11:04] <Milkeh> twistedr, thanks
[11:04] <benovic> *installed
[11:04] <twistedr> b1n42y: are the images loading correctly??
[11:04] <bazhang> benovic, you are still using ubuntu?
[11:04] <benovic> bazhang: yes
[11:05] <ZykoticK9> tom_eats_lives, is it mencoder your looking to install?  whatever that PPA was you'll have lost updates from whatever you added from them.  whenever you add something to your sources.list be sure to add the key in future.
[11:05] <b1n42y> twistedr, the page loads
[11:05] <Dr_willis> benovic:  i copy entries from other disrtos to  my ubuntu menu.list all the time.
[11:05] <twistedr> b1n42y: thx
[11:05] <boodomi> thsi is my ‏first time ever i use linux...and i have question..i have 2 operating systems why does linux have 15gb free space and windows over 200? can i chance it somehow??
[11:05] <b1n42y> twistedr, i c images on the right btw goto #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:05] <mrwes> Benovic: just make sure you put them below the Ubuntu Magic Entry line
[11:05] <Dr_willis> benovic:  if you plan on doing manual grub tweaking like that. you proberly should read up on the grub configs and manuals at teh grub homepage. it has some very well done docs.
[11:06] <twistedr> b1n42y: thx
[11:06] <b1n42y> np
[11:06] <twistedr> boodomi: probably the partitions were setup with ubuntu on a smalelr partitoin
[11:06] <benovic> bazhang:  Dr_willis: mrwes: its just to get to know debian a little better... i'll follow teh advice, thank you!
[11:06] <archman> benovic, croatian?
[11:06] <emil> ?
[11:06] <emil> anyone can tell me, what's the best port for SSH?
[11:06] <mrwes> Doc: o/
[11:07] <mrwes> emil: 22 ?
[11:07] <Dr_willis> benovic:  I doubt if youa re going to learn much more by using sidux then ubuntu. other then 'sidux differances' - i was not impressed with sidux.
[11:07] <benovic> archman: nope, but its a croatian nick... i spend 10 days in zadar though
[11:07] <ziroday> emil: normally its on port 22, but whatever you want
[11:07] <archman> benovic: haha, cool. Cheers!
[11:07] <ZykoticK9> emil there is no "best" port for SSH, the default is 22 but you can choose whatever port you like (sorta)
[11:07] <Athenon> What's the easiest way to figure out where my hard drive space is being used?
[11:07] <ziroday> Athenon: use Disk Usage Analyzer (boabab)
[11:08] <Dr_willis> Athenon:  check the package manager. theres some gui tools that can show drive space./ussage graphically
[11:08] <Athenon> ziroday:  that a gui utility?  im console-only
[11:08] <ziroday> Athenon: yes it is, gimme a sec
[11:08] <benovic> Dr_willis: at least i'll learn how to use smxi :)
[11:08] <mrwes> Athenon, Applications | Accessories | Disk Usage Analyzer
[11:08] <Dr_willis> oh = that would of been a good bit of info to mention BEFOR :) lol
[11:08] <emil> but I want to connect my girlfreind's laptop, and her's admin had blocked some ports on router
[11:08] <Dr_willis> benovic:  i found that a sidux weakness..  :)
[11:08] <b1n42y> mrwes, gk baobab
[11:08] <Athenon> haha yeah.  i forget to mention it because its common knowledge to me XD
[11:08] <b1n42y> oops
[11:08] <emil> so I need to pick one of open ports
[11:09] <emil> Witch one is usually open?
[11:09] <ziroday> Athenon: I believe there is some magic you can do with du/df. Lemme try dig it up for you.
[11:09] <benovic> Dr_willis: yeah, i hope i can impress girls with it at least...
[11:09] <ZykoticK9> Athenon, in the / directory "du -sh * 2>/dev/null" will show you how much space is in each of the main tree directories??? suggestion
[11:09] <mrwes> emil, mutliple computers on this router? You're going to have to forward the port anyhow
[11:09] <emil> no, I'm using hamachi :)
[11:10] <mrwes> hrmm
[11:10] <ziroday> Athenon: du -h --max-depth=1
[11:10] <SineDeviance> hey all
[11:10]  * benovic is rebootin'
[11:10] <Psuedo> G'Day
[11:11] <tom_eats_lives> ZykoticK9, i can't find http://ppa.launchpad.net  looked in /etc/apt/sources.list anywhere else it could be ?
[11:11] <Psuedo> How do I change the mouse cursor theme?
[11:11] <emil> what about port 443?
[11:11] <SineDeviance> i'm having an issue with xterm. i have it set to draw shadows on windows. the problem is, when i run any terminal emulator (and i've tried lots) the redraw doesnt work correctly when dragging, leaving a trail of shadows
[11:11] <emil> is usually open on routers?
[11:11] <SineDeviance> er not xterm, xcompmgr sorry
[11:11] <ZykoticK9> tom_eats_lives, no it should be in /etc/apt/sources.list for sure??? dunno man
[11:12] <daftykins> System -> Preferences -> Appearance Psuedo followed by Theme tab, "Customize" then "pointer" tab
[11:12] <SineDeviance> but yes xcompmgr does this. no other windows are afflicted, only terminals. i cant figure out why
[11:12] <ZykoticK9> emil, nothing should be open on the router by default
[11:12] <b1n42y> SineDeviance, what gfx card
[11:12] <ziroday> Athenon: did that work?
[11:12] <emil> is there a way to check what ports are open?
[11:12] <Athenon> ziroday:  yeah.  is there an easy way to sort it too?  that would be super awesome :P
[11:13] <SineDeviance> b1n42y, geforce 5950 ultra. it's more than powerful enough
[11:13] <emil> :)
[11:13] <ziroday> Athenon: by which one is using the most? Not sure lemme look around
[11:13] <Athenon> ziroday:  yeah
[11:13] <oCean_> Athenon: du command | sort -n
[11:13] <b1n42y> SineDeviance, nah i was thinking intel has probs with desktop effects
[11:13] <Athenon> -n
[11:13] <Athenon> ok
[11:13] <mufasis> how do i extract using tar to a specific directory
[11:13] <SineDeviance> b1n42y, right.
[11:13] <maxhax14> hi what should i do after i downloaded a application and its in archive manager
[11:13] <Psuedo> Thanks daftykins
[11:13] <ziroday> Athenon: try du -b --max-depth 1 | sort -nr | perl -pe 's{([0-9]+)}{sprintf "%.1f%s", $1>=2**30? ($1/2**30, "G"): $1>=2**20? ($1/2**20, "M"): $1>=2**10? ($1/2**10, "K"): ($1, "")}e'
[11:13] <maxhax14> what should i do to open it
[11:13] <maxhax14> its name is chess.tgz
[11:14] <Athenon> ziroday:  looks good.  thanks :D
[11:14] <tom_eats_lives> ZykoticK9, found it in /etc/apt/sources.list.d now have another error Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/intrepid/Release  Unable to find expected entry  multiversegksu/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
[11:14] <twistedr> maxhax14: there will be instructions to install from where you downloaded it
[11:14] <b1n42y> !.tgz| maxhax14
[11:14] <Psuedo> daftykins: It didn't work :(
[11:15] <ZykoticK9> tom_eats_lives, did you try to add the medibuntu repo?
[11:15] <ziroday> maxhax14: what application is it and where did you download it from?
[11:15] <daftykins> Psuedo, that's where the pointer options are for me, it can't not work
[11:15] <maxhax14> its a chess game
[11:15] <maxhax14> and i downloaded it from :http://www.ecere.com/action.html
[11:16] <SineDeviance> um do terminals not automatically cause the desktop to redraw behind them when you drag them?
[11:16] <Psuedo> !medibuntu
[11:16] <tom_eats_lives> ZykoticK9, no
[11:16] <m0nik3r5> ah
[11:16] <Psuedo> daftykins: Even on Hardy?
[11:16] <rotyyu> hello
[11:16] <ZykoticK9> tom_eats_lives, have you tried "sudo apt-get update" yet?
[11:16] <m0nik3r5> yes
[11:16] <m0nik3r5> even so
[11:16] <maxhax14> <ziroday there dosn't seem to be any instructions
[11:17] <Psuedo> daftykins: I have OpenBox as my windows manager, instead of metacity
[11:17] <tom_eats_lives> ZykoticK9, same error
[11:17] <ziroday> maxhax14: where did you download it from?
[11:17] <SineDeviance> Psuedo, do you use xcompmgr?
[11:17] <m0nik3r5> oops my bad
[11:17] <maxhax14> <ziroday
[11:17] <maxhax14> http://www.ecere.com/action.html
[11:17] <b1n42y> maxhax14, try extract it there might be a read me file
[11:17] <Psuedo> SineDeviance: I have no idea
[11:17] <b1n42y> !.tgz| maxhax14
[11:17] <SineDeviance> Psuedo, xcompmgr is a compositor, you'd know :D
[11:17] <ZykoticK9> tom_eats_lives, did you happen to backup that sources.list.d file before changing it?  if so i'd revert to the backup
[11:18] <Psuedo> SineDeviance: ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
[11:18] <ziroday> maxhax14: why don't you ask in the ecere channe;
[11:18] <SineDeviance> Psuedo, heh dont worry bout it :D
[11:18] <maxhax14> i thought i would try here first
[11:18] <Psuedo> lol
[11:18] <Athenon> ziroday:  dumb question.  how would i create an alias with that command? -_-
[11:18] <maxhax14> i didnt know that there were different ways of doing it
[11:18] <ziroday> maxhax14: ask in #ecere they will know
[11:18] <shingoki> Does anyone know why Ibex still doesn't support the eee pc 701 out of the box, even though there are multiple possible ways of supporting each piece of hardware?
[11:19] <ziroday> Athenon: heh, dumb answer, I have no idea :P
[11:19] <Athenon> XD
[11:19] <shingoki> They haven't even done the one-line fix for unloading the sound driver
[11:19] <Athenon> i mean, i know how to create aliases...but apparently just using
[11:19] <ziroday> shingoki: ask in #ubuntu-eeepc
[11:19] <Athenon> \' for the 's doesnt work
[11:19] <Psuedo> For some reason command-not-found doesn't stay active for me, after reboot
[11:20] <Mpole> All: It seems the best solution for my problem is to create a fresh installation. Am now downloading the 8.10 ISO. Thanks everyone for your patience.
[11:20] <b1n42y> your welcome
[11:20] <b1n42y> you're*
[11:20] <emil> and I have another problem :)
[11:20] <Psuedo> For some reason command-not-found isn't working for me anymore. I have tried removing it then reinstalling it, to no avail.
[11:20] <tom_eats_lives> ZykoticK9, not sure , cant see a backup
[11:21] <emil> when I connect with NX Free to another computer, I have a different keyboard layout :|
[11:21] <Mpole> b1n42y: One last question. The Mozilla-Thunderbird email client is in the form of a .tar file. Where are the installations instructions for it>?
[11:21] <emil> I mean, when I press up arrow, it's making screenshot
[11:21] <emil> :|
[11:22] <b1n42y> Mpole, i think it install by deafult on 8.10
[11:22] <ZykoticK9> tom_eats_lives, well hopefully there is a lesson here, if you make changes to a file, you should back it up first!!!  ls -a doesn't happen to have something does it?
[11:22] <VENEZOLANA43> HOLA
[11:22] <b1n42y> Mpole, that is i have it and i dont remember installing it
[11:23] <Mpole> b1n42y: ok. lemme google then. lol
[11:23] <b1n42y> lol
[11:23] <ziroday> b1n42y: to install it just do sudo apt-get install thunderbird. Don't use the .tar file
[11:23] <equex> is there a way to regenerate applications.menu ? the menu editor botched the file, and my attempts at fixing in an editor it isnt making it better :(
[11:23] <b1n42y> Mpole, there you go lol
[11:23] <xiq> hello, how can i mount a 6GB iso file?
[11:24] <b1n42y> !mount | xig
[11:24] <ZykoticK9> xiq, sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>
[11:24] <equex> i'll leave the menu alone this time lol, until another menu editor tool comes along.. maybe i'll write one myself if i figure out how the menu system really works
[11:24] <bazhang> !iso
[11:24] <b1n42y> um
[11:24] <daftykins> mount -t iso9660 -o ro,loop=/dev/loop0 /path/to/file.iso /cdrom
[11:24] <b1n42y> thanks
[11:24] <Mpole> b1n42y: Off-topic.... Am in Dar es Salaam, Tanzania. Where r u?
[11:25] <VENEZOLANA43> HOLAAAAAAAAAAAA
[11:25] <Psuedo> I'm trying to do an upgrade from hardy, sudo apt-get install dselect-upgrade, however one of the updates, I don't want intstalled. Namely gnome-session. How do I upgrade without having to update gnome-session?
[11:25] <oCean_> !es | VENEZOLANA43
[11:25] <b1n42y> Mpole, melb OZ
[11:25] <tom_eats_lives> ZykoticK9, your probably right heh , bit rm happy, ls -a does not revival any backups
[11:25] <poty> hi! i've installed an actualization over my ubuntu 8.04 and now my sound is gone together with some video features, i think that maybe undoing the actualization would do so
[11:25] <Mpole> b1n42y: Wow! Ok. Cool. Bye and thanks.
[11:25] <Psuedo> I'm trying to do an upgrade from hardy, sudo apt-get install dselect-upgrade, however one of the updates, I don't want intstalled. Namely gnome-session. How do I upgrade without having to update gnome-session?
[11:25] <ZykoticK9> tom_eats_lives, ok, can you pastebin the error your getting with apt-get?
[11:26] <b1n42y> bazhang, thanks iso was going to be next lol
[11:27] <jrib> Psuedo: from hardy to intrepid?
[11:27] <poty> hi! i've installed an actualization over my ubuntu 8.04 and now my sound is gone together with some video features, please help
[11:28] <tom_eats_lives> ZykoticK9, http://paste.ubuntu.com/127666/
[11:28] <sebi_> hi
[11:28] <Psuedo> jrib: Yes
[11:29] <quibbler> equex: right click on panel add main menu (default menu)
[11:29] <jrib> Psuedo: how are you sure gnome-session will work properly?  gnome will be a different version
[11:29] <Psuedo> jrib: I installed all the updates for hardy, the changed repositories to intrepid, installed all but gnome-session updates
[11:29] <jrib> Psuedo: that's not how you upgrade...
[11:29] <Psuedo> lol
[11:29] <jrib> !upgrade > Psuedo
[11:29] <jrib> although now it's too late
[11:29] <Psuedo> jrib: What do you suggest I do? I use OpenBox as my window manager
[11:30] <b1n42y> fresh install ftw ?
[11:30] <jrib> Psuedo: Why don't you want to upgrade gnome-session?  The bug where it doesn't save and load the session?
[11:30] <Psuedo> I don't want GNOME-session to be upgraded because I am using GNOME/OpenBox. (GNOME with an OpenBox window manager)
[11:30] <poty> hi! i've installed an actualization over my ubuntu 8.04 and now my sound is gone together with some video features, please help
[11:31] <jrib> Psuedo: wouldn't you still be able to do that with the newer version of gnome-session?
[11:31] <needcalendar> What's the best Calendar application in 8.04 ?
[11:31] <Psuedo> cal
[11:31] <jrib> !best | needcalendar
[11:31] <jrib> needcalendar: evolution has a calendar
[11:32] <Psuedo> jrib: cal has been around for how many years now? :P
[11:32] <tony426_> anyone here used gnomenu?
[11:32] <jrib> tony426_: best to just ask the channel your question
[11:32] <Psuedo> jrib, from wikipedia: History ->  The cal command was present in 1st Edition Unix.
[11:32] <tony426_> well, i ran the make file and i don't know how to install it now. google tells me nothing nor does gnomelook
[11:33] <needcalendar> jrib: I can find all the calendars with apt-cache search; but I need to narrow my search by looking at what's currently popular
[11:33] <Psuedo> there's a built in one
[11:33] <Psuedo> in terminal, type in cal
[11:33] <jrib> needcalendar: popcon.ubuntu.com and ask bestbot (see ubottu's message)
[11:33] <tony426_> am i just stupid or are we supposed to know this stuff already?
[11:34] <needcalendar> Psuedo: that's not what I mean by calendar app. I need one that will remind me of appointments, relatives' birthdays, etc
[11:34] <ZykoticK9> tom_eats_lives, I think the problem is with the "http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/intrepid/Release" my sources.list does not contain this line - there is something not quite right with your current file.
[11:34] <Psuedo> jrib: It's broken it last time, had to revert to a snapshot
[11:35] <Psuedo> needcalender: Give evolution a go, as per jrib's suggestion
[11:35] <ZykoticK9> tom_eats_lives, do you know are you able to actually install anything right now?  the error seems to suggest it would just be ignored.
[11:35] <m0RrE> what's the official supportchannel for Jaunty?
[11:35] <jrib> !pinning | Psuedo
[11:35] <oCean_> m0RrE: #ubuntu+1
[11:35] <m0RrE> oCean_: thanx
[11:35] <tom_eats_lives> ZykoticK9, yes i can but it very annoying error
[11:35] <jrib> Psuedo: you can try that, but I have my doubts that the old gnome-session will work properly with the rest of the newer version of gnome
[11:35] <b1n42y> tony426, theres a page on the net called gnome system panle
[11:35] <b1n42y> panel
[11:36] <needcalendar> 03:35 < BestBot> The BESTEST calendar is orage, because 0 people (0%) said so! Follow in order, gpe-calendar, dates
[11:36] <needcalendar> ... pretty useless
[11:36] <quibbler> needcalendar: do you use google calendar?
[11:36] <tony426_> b1n42y: really?
[11:36] <b1n42y> tony426, http://www.howtoforge.com/installing-ubuntu-system-panel-on-ubuntu-8.10
[11:36] <Psuedo> jrib: I don't think anything needs to be changed in the config, we just need a port of the config to the latest version of gnome-session. Can you please do the honours?
[11:36] <jrib> needcalendar: just try the suggestions you have and choose the best one for you.  I also gave you another way to check popularity
[11:37] <tom_eats_lives> ZykoticK9, been googling and now ppa.launchpads have added public keys, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dpkg/+bug/323753
[11:37] <jrib> Psuedo: I don't know how to use openbox with gnome.  Last time I tried, it was just a matter of changing a gconf key
[11:37] <Psuedo> needcalender: I'd suggest GMail
[11:37] <Psuedo> jrib: In that case, can you please change that for me, and send me the file?
[11:38] <jrib> Psuedo: gconf-editor
[11:38] <ZykoticK9> tom_eats_lives, the problem is ppa.launchpads have LOTS and LOTS of different keys, you need the ones that you have added to your sources.list file
[11:39] <rebel`> hi everybody
[11:39] <rebel`> I have a problem with ubuntu
[11:39] <needcalendar> quibbler: I don't want Google to know what I'm plotting against them
[11:39] <Psuedo> jrib: After reboot, I should be able to boot into either an OpenBox or a GNOME session. Can you tell me exactly what to do please?
[11:39] <b1n42y> !ask
[11:39] <jrib> Psuedo: just install openbox.  You'll have the option at the gdm login screen
[11:39] <rebel`> I can't change my screen resolution to 1024*768
[11:40] <rebel`> I'm stuck with 800*600 and below
[11:40] <jrib> !fixres | rebel`
[11:40] <Psuedo> !hammer-time
[11:40] <poty> how can i use my old kernel ?
[11:41] <quibbler> needcalendar: you don't have to be sarcastic ... a simple not interested is fine.
[11:41] <JessicaParker> can someone help with mic on toshiba cant get it working
[11:41] <JessicaParker> even the web cam is working
[11:41] <gigabytes> hello
[11:41] <JGodbout> Toshiba NB100.
[11:41] <JessicaParker> toshiba satellite
[11:41] <needcalendar> quibbler: stop quibbling!
[11:42] <Psuedo> jrib: I would really appreciate it if you could help me solve the problem when I reboot
[11:42] <gigabytes> installing ubuntu I've installed grub on the wrong partition. I wanted to install it on the root partition but I installed it on the windows partition. Now I've installed it again in the root partition but it still remains on the windows one. How can I remove grub from the windows partition?
[11:42] <jrib> Psuedo: I don't understand what the problem is
[11:42] <quibbler> needcalendar: i'm not ...i'm listening to you and suggest you do the same.....listen to you
[11:43] <b1n42y> quibbler, needcalendar no need for that in here
[11:43] <JessicaParker> any one assist with the mic..........ii really need skype to work and its not working
[11:43] <b1n42y> JessicaParker, not muted is it?
[11:43] <quibbler> b1n42y: you are right, i apologize
[11:44] <tom_eats_lives> ZykoticK9, Went for crash and burn option did back up of source list and brought back default settings
[11:44] <Psuedo> I'm trying to do an upgrade from hardy so I ran sudo apt-get install dselect-upgrade. I got the following error: http://i43.tinypic.com/15xuzc8.jpg
[11:45] <ZykoticK9> tom_eats_lives, assume no more error?
[11:45] <tom_eats_lives> ZykoticK9, no
[11:45] <JessicaParker> no
[11:46] <JessicaParker> im testing it via sound recorder
[11:46] <ZykoticK9> tom_eats_lives, well that's good anyways.  there are some of your sources in the pastebin if you want them back boxee/virtualbox/etc - but you need to get keys for them as you add them, to avoid having this problem again.
[11:46] <Dreamglider> gigabytes, have a look at this > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351
[11:46] <JessicaParker> there seems to be 4 options
[11:46] <JessicaParker> on the sound recorder
[11:46] <diego> hi all
[11:46] <korg> Hi
[11:46] <JGodbout> Hello!
[11:47] <b1n42y> JessicaParker, have you tried alsa mixer
[11:47] <JessicaParker> hda/ realteck / playaback / capture monitor source / capture alsa
[11:47] <JessicaParker> i think that is already on there
[11:47] <JessicaParker> updgraded to 8.10 today
[11:47] <JessicaParker> as it was not working in 8.04
[11:49] <rebel_> so it says that I should use this xrandr --addmode S-video 800x600
[11:49] <tom_eats_lives> ZykoticK9, will do , keys , keys! thanks for your help and have good evening / morning
[11:49] <ZykoticK9> tom_eats_lives, take care man
[11:49] <becks2> ciao
[11:49] <becks2> !list
[11:50] <rebel_> I mean xrandr --addmode S-video 1024x768
[11:50] <rebel_> but it tells me output not found
[11:50] <rebel_> how can I get my output name
[11:50] <JessicaParker> any any ideas ?
[11:50] <jrib> rebel_: first command on the page
[11:51] <b1n42y> JessicaParker, try http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=956565
[11:51] <daftykins> anyone know how to stop Rhythmbox from auto-adding to its' database tracks you just drag in to play?
[11:51] <disappearedng> hey my totem hangs when I play a music / video file, this is true for mplayer too, is there a bug with alsa?
[11:51] <korg> disappearedng: Try VLC
[11:51] <b1n42y> disappearedng, i use amarok for mp3 and vlc for movies ...
[11:52] <rebel_> anyone ??
[11:52] <rebel_> how do I know my output name ?
[11:53] <emil> hi
[11:53] <emil> I have a problem that NX Free won't work on any port other than 22 :|
[11:53] <korg> emil: hello
[11:53] <quibbler> JessicaParker: look here and see if it helps: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/12/05/fixing-the-errant-microphone/
[11:53] <emil> why's that?
[11:54] <hoangmanhhung432> alo
[11:54] <b1n42y> quibbler, sounds promising
[11:55] <Athenon> any idea why alias compress="tar -czvf $1.tar.gz $1"    results in the command working, but the end file being named .tar.gz instead of parameter.tar.gz ?
[11:55] <ZykoticK9> emil, NX is using SSH which defaults to port 22, i think i saw something on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX about changing the port is uses.  Good luck.
[11:55] <oCean_> emil: because that's were sshd runs by default. See here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX#Configuring%20SSH%20port howto change that port
[11:55] <emil> I have changed ssh to 443
[11:55] <emil> :P
[11:55] <korg> emil: And?
[11:55] <JessicaParker> all i seem to get is tick tick tick on the record playback
[11:56] <emil> still not working
[11:56] <ZykoticK9> emil, did you restart sshd?  or your system since you made the change?
[11:56] <emil> yes
[11:56] <jrib> Athenon: because aliases don't use parameters?
[11:56] <Athenon> jrib:  oh...odd....google says they do -_-
[11:57] <jrib> Athenon: link?
[11:58] <b1n42y> JessicaParker, have you tried quiblers link
[11:58] <Athenon> jrib:  oh hmm...read it wrong.  they were using a shell function.  do shell functions do that sort of thing?
[11:59] <korg> Can anybody tell me, how to hide "Join chanel"/"Quit chanel" messages in weechat?
[11:59] <b1n42y> korg, tried right clicking in tab, plugins? settings?
[12:00] <b1n42y> korg, on* tab
[12:00] <korg> b1n42y: This is ncurses console chat
[12:00] <ZykoticK9> Athenon, yes you've written a shell script with a variable for the filename, it just won't work as an Alias - Alias is just a dumb x for y sorta thing - nothing facy
[12:01] <oCean_> Athenon: see here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/127682/ adding something like that in .bashrc will do the trick.
[12:02] <b1n42y> korg, /set irc.look.smart_filter on
[12:02] <b1n42y> You can setup delay: /set irc.look.smart_filter_delay 5
[12:02] <ZykoticK9> oCean_, will that work as an alias in .bashrc?
[12:02] <b1n42y> korg, http://dev.weechat.org/post/2008/10/25/Smart-IRC-join-part-quit-message-filter
[12:03] <oCean_> ZykoticK9: it's not an actual alias, but the command would be available in all (your) subsequent shells, yes
[12:03] <ZykoticK9> oCean_, cool
[12:03] <micdech> ciao
[12:04] <oCean_> ZykoticK9: however you might want to change the $1.tar, and add your "backup location" like "tar cvf /path/to/backups/$1.tar" ...
[12:04] <korg> b1n42y: Thank you
[12:04] <b1n42y> np
[12:05] <ZykoticK9> oCean_, well with what you have there isn't that just "echo"ing what it will do?  I think more would need to be added wouldn't it?
[12:05] <korg> b1n42y: What irc client you use?
[12:05] <rebel_> people ! I need help, you're not giving it to me :(
[12:05] <oCean_> ZykoticK9: :)
[12:05] <b1n42y> korg, xchat but im getting around to irssi
[12:05] <oCean_> ZykoticK9: remove the echo and the quotes...
[12:06] <rebel_> I can't change my screen resolution to anything more than 800x600
[12:06] <micdech> qualcuno di voi usa apache?
[12:06] <b1n42y> !italian
[12:06] <korg> b1n42y: It for KDE?
[12:06] <oCean_> ZykoticK9: the paste was just an example. Feel free to modify to suit your needs..
[12:06] <rebel_> I went here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution and it says usfull stuf
[12:06] <korg> Oh, console
[12:06] <b1n42y> korg, yes but you can use any app on any DE
[12:07] <ZykoticK9> oCean_, and that's what was "cool" about it - certainly not the specifics ;)  thanks man, always good to learn something new!
[12:07] <b1n42y> korg, irssi in kde3.5.10 has gui script
[12:07] <Leonheart> where is ubuntu off topic room?
[12:07] <b1n42y> ubuntu-offtopic
[12:07] <oCean_> ZykoticK9: yw
[12:07] <Vigo> rebel: Are you using the most recent driver?
[12:07] <Leonheart> thks
[12:08] <rebel_> Vigo: I guess
[12:08] <korg> b1n42y: Does it have support of users list?
[12:08] <korg> I see it litle bit outdated
[12:08] <rebel_> it's 177
[12:08] <tony426_> anyone know how to change the gnome panel itself?
[12:09] <Vigo> rebel: Look in synaptic, might want to use the filters a bit, then get the right driver that is for your chipset
[12:09] <rebel_> haha I solved it
[12:09] <b1n42y> korg, yep it seemed very functional when i used it for a day, i just need to install script to make it work in window
[12:09] <rebel_> from the NVIDIA X Server Settings
[12:10] <rebel_> thanks anyway
[12:10] <b1n42y> tony426_, what do you mean
[12:10] <Vigo> rebel: Gratzi! and please post the solution that you used on the Forums if it is not already there.
[12:10] <korg> I see it have nice DOOM skin :)
[12:10] <korg> http://www.irssi.org/themefiles/doom.png
[12:11] <Vigo> I like that one
[12:12] <ksbalaji> why do I get this permanent array of dots or arrows in my SM player? Other players do not have this problem.
[12:12] <b1n42y> korg, ya the one i used was in window mode with users on the side and nifty irc presets
[12:12] <tony426_> b1n42y: the gnome panel, the thing at the bottom. change the look of it without changing my window scheme
[12:12] <b1n42y> tony426_, right click on it
[12:13] <b1n42y> tony426_, also gconf-editor
[12:14] <b1n42y> tony426_, gconf-editor, apps>panels>top_levels
[12:14] <tony426_> i mean change the look of it. i don't see that option
[12:15] <tony426_> other than color
[12:15] <b1n42y> tony426_, for instance mine is transparent, auto hide instantly, .... you can add background, if you would like to chang eit completely you need like a dock
[12:15] <tony426_> you can put an image background on it but it still won't mesh with the rest of it
[12:16] <tony426_> i tried awn, it's a mess. no more docks. i'd rather just have something that works and still looks decent
[12:16] <harrisony> with ufw, is there anyway i can make it only work on one interface, i want eth0 to have the interface but tap0 to have no firewall
[12:16] <Athenon> so....somehow i tar'd and gzip'd an entire directory into one file...i mean, inside the archive theres 1 file...called "home" which is supposed to contain all of /home....how would i get it out? -_-
[12:17] <b1n42y> tony426_, the only other way is themes
[12:17] <ksbalaji> My SM player video simltaneously shows a mysterious permanent array of dots and moving arrows and short lines. Any explanation please?
[12:17] <b1n42y> tony426_, i am unaware of any other way
[12:18] <tony426_> all the themes i've tried are ugly
[12:19] <Dr_willis_AAO> Thats rather subjective.. :)
[12:19] <b1n42y> !pastebin
[12:20] <deany> wish the repos were upto date with common apps like pidgin..makes using plugins easier..
[12:20] <vanksi> i got my GlobeTrotter 3G hsdpa modem working via HSOConnect but Network Manager doesn't regocnise the connection so i can't open VPN tunnel with it, is there any way to make Network Manager regocnice the connection?
[12:20] <Amendment> Hello, is there a way to control fan speeds?
[12:21] <b1n42y> how do i link screenshots
[12:21] <puddle> 120.89.119.72 is my ip addresss FREENODE SUCKS ASS
[12:22] <jrib> ...
[12:22] <jilianghou> hello
[12:22] <jilianghou> 有人在么
[12:23] <Leonheart> chinesse?
[12:23] <Vigo> ASCII
[12:23] <xiq> hello, how can i mount a 6GB iso file?
[12:23] <Dr_willis_AAO> !iso
[12:23] <jilianghou> yes
[12:24] <Leonheart> DL format?
[12:24] <jilianghou> I'm chinese
[12:24] <xiq> thanks
[12:24] <Leonheart> it may incompatible for old app
[12:24] <xiq> is mountpoint like /media/cdrom1 ?
[12:24] <Leonheart> ni hao ma?
[12:24] <jilianghou> wo hao a
[12:24] <jilianghou> 你也是中国人阿
[12:24] <Leonheart> :P
[12:24] <fosco_> please use english
[12:25] <Leonheart> i'm chinesse. but not growing at china :P
[12:25] <Leonheart> my chinesse is sucks :P
[12:25] <Leonheart> kk,
[12:25] <jilianghou> wa
[12:25] <Gnea> !cn | jilianghou
[12:26] <b1n42y> http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=e123jn&s=5
[12:26] <jilianghou> thinks
[12:26] <jilianghou> thanks
[12:26] <Amendment> Is there a way to control fan speeds?
[12:27] <jilianghou> bye
[12:27] <fosco_> Amendment, fancontrol
[12:27] <xiq> yay it worked :D
[12:27] <azlon_> anybody have any recommendations on a sega genesis emulator?
[12:28] <xiq> but... how can i mount a FAT32 partition?
[12:28] <Leonheart> i like N64 emulator :P
[12:28] <D_likescookies> azlon_: looking for the same.
[12:28] <Amendment> fosco_, is it at reps?
[12:28] <xiq> !mount
[12:28] <azlon_> Leonheart: i dont have any N64 games and im using a Wiimote to play...
[12:29] <Vigo> Leonheart: Can you play H2G2 on it?
[12:29] <fosco_> Amendment, yes, it is part of the lmsensors package
[12:29] <xiq> mount fat32, anyone?
[12:29] <azlon_> D_likescookies: i downloaded a couple emulators but they wont load my games... i can load the games on emulators on my Vista machine and my PSP
[12:29] <Leonheart> nope.. Im using wine and Project64 :]]
[12:29] <Dreamglider> is there anything like multisim for designing and simulating Circuits for ubuntu  ?
[12:29] <win2key> !ru | win2key
[12:30] <Leonheart> Dreamglider: I can't find better than multisim. but it may work using wine too
[12:30] <Amendment> fosco_, it says that i dont have such file / folder when i try to run it. I have installed latest lm-sensors
[12:30] <D_likescookies> azlon_: which ones do you have?
[12:30] <ksbalaji> smplayer shows permanent array of dots etc., Please see a snapshot - http://imagebin.ca/view/dXLYFq.html
[12:30] <Vigo> Dreamglider: Yes, there are some Electronics programs in the repos.
[12:31] <azlon_> D_likescookies: i downloaded dgen and dega... neither worked
[12:31] <I1> hi guys....i would like to know how can i have the list of all packages (installed and not) from apt like the command yum list all
[12:31] <D_likescookies> azlon_: gonna check them out ty. I'm out of ideas tho.
[12:31] <azlon_> D_likescookies: i also downloaded a couple others but i had to compile them to get it to work... sounds like a lot of effort for something so easy
[12:31] <Dr_willis_AAO> !clone | I1
[12:31] <azlon_> check out dega first, it seemed to have the most potential
[12:32] <fosco_> Amendment, use pwmconfig to generate a fancontrol config file, read man fancontrol for more info
[12:32] <Amendment> Thank you
[12:32] <quibbler> b1n42y: nice here is mine: http://i39.tinypic.com/1zm33ir.png
[12:32] <D_likescookies> azlon_: checking ty.
[12:33] <Vigo> http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/index.en.html
[12:33] <D_likescookies> azlon_: dega seems to be a master system emu. O_o
[12:33] <xiq> can i ship xubuntu
[12:34] <b1n42y> quibbler, hehe cool, im on a laptop havent messed with my desktop setup, only recently converted it to ubuntu from fedora, so im space limited on tablet pc
[12:35] <Leonheart> how cool rubber effect on ubuntu
[12:35] <Dreamglider> Leonheart, have u used miltisim in wine ?
[12:35] <silv3r_m00n> hi there
[12:35] <silv3r_m00n> how can I speed up ubuntu
[12:35] <protocol1> disable desktop effects?
[12:35] <b1n42y> silv3r_m00n, get rid of not required services
[12:36] <quibbler> b1n42y: do you like fedora? i played  with it a bit in vbox but could get the hang of it.
[12:36] <I1> Vigo: i have already read the apt howto but i still can't do wath i want....for example if there is a package named "abcd" i would like to know if this package is installed on my system or not....how can i do that with apt???? please someone help me....thx
[12:36] <silv3r_m00n> b1n42y: am in kde
[12:36] <silv3r_m00n> b1n42y: how can I do that
[12:36] <mika__> hi can somebody help me with game issue
[12:36] <pollonero> hola chicas
[12:37] <Vigo> I1: aptitude can do that, it is like an easy-peasy Terminal or Konsole.
[12:37] <silv3r_m00n> hi there
[12:37] <mika__> i have tryed now like 6 hours to put team fortress 2 to work and it works partially ( ican see games menu and so on)
[12:37] <I1> and wich is the command?
[12:37] <silv3r_m00n> is there anything like ies4linux which can run ie7 and ie8 ?
[12:37] <aragilar> msg nickserv register 42eragon aragilar@gmail.com
[12:38] <Leonheart> Dreamglider: I'm not tested yet, but i think multisim use only GDI thing and coding in VC. So i think it will run fine with wine
[12:38] <b1n42y> silv3r_m00n, id google if i where you, also you can disable noatime in fstab but this might lead to some apps not working properly but i havent had any crashing, best to google this topic
[12:38] <mika__> but the game it self doesnt start.....it hangs or the sound goes "loop" and nothing happens
[12:38] <silv3r_m00n> b1n42y: hmm
[12:39] <b1n42y> silv3r_m00n, add noatime* - its about file access time stamps and disk writing
[12:39] <azlon_> D_likescookies: isnt SMS and Sega Genesis the same thing, just different names in different countries?
[12:40] <JGodbout> mika: Try #winehq if you are using wine to try and run tf2
[12:40] <D_likescookies> azlon_: no, master system is master system, sega genesis is another name for sega mega drive.
[12:40] <eTranquility> Hi, I'm running 8.10. Recently, no application can connect to the internet (including synaptic) except for Firefox and Pidgin. I have no idea what happened, how could I fix it?
[12:40] <mika__> ok thanks
[12:40] <psyk> hey guys, im finaly getting my teamspeak working with a new usb soundkart and aoss.. but the sound is..like..cracking and stucking... havy someone a clue how to fix this?
[12:41] <b1n42y> mika__, also try wine database on internet has instructions for games
[12:41] <deany> ibex with 1gig ram, 256mb ati radeon compiz enabled running latest 9.2 ATI fglrx.. is there NO way of having smooth video playback?  X11 driver aint cuttin it
[12:41] <JGodbout> But don't expect to be able to get wine working well
[12:41] <cUBUc> How do i hide a certain folder in windows, which I had mounted in ubuntu
[12:41] <azlon_> D_likescookies: crap... well let me know if you find anything
[12:41] <cUBUc> Hide or password protect, either is fine
[12:41] <Vigo> I1: http://wiki.debian.org/Aptitude and /usr/share/doc/aptitude/README
[12:41] <JGodbout> I have tried many times for warcraft 3, and i'm still failing
[12:41] <D_likescookies> azlon_: I found one, gens, I used it under win, it works well, ionly find a rpm of it tho.
[12:42] <jrib> cUBUc: can you be more specific as to what you want to do?  Your question doesn't really make sense to me?  Do you want to do something in the windows operating system?
[12:42] <D_likescookies> azlon: http://planetemu.net/index.php?section=emulateurs&machine=12&os=Linux
[12:42] <b1n42y> jrib, was thinking same
[12:42] <jrib> !appdb | mika__
[12:42] <b1n42y> jrib, ok cool didnt know that one
[12:43] <cUBUc> jrib: i have mounted a windows drive (C:) in ubuntu.. I want a particular folder in it blocked... I have set windows security but obviousely , they dont work inubuntu
[12:43] <JGodbout> The only way to protect is properly is to encrypt it
[12:43] <jrib> cUBUc: you can hide it by creating a .hidden file in its parent folder containing the name of the file you want to hide
[12:44] <jrib> cUBUc: hide means "don't bother me", not "make it so no one can see it"
[12:44] <usas101> hi!
[12:44] <cUBUc> jrib: I want no one to open and see it...
[12:44] <jrib> cUBUc: then encrypt it
[12:45] <quibbler> cUBUc: you could encrypt it
[12:45] <cUBUc> jrib: wat bout chown.. does it work.. just saw it on the net
[12:45] <Vigo> cUBUc: then put it on a Removable Media and take it offline.
[12:45] <jilianghou> ren?
[12:46] <jrib> cUBUc: ok, I guess we need more information.  Who exactly do you want to prevent from accessing the file?
[12:46] <b1n42y> cUBUc, sets file permissions, directories in linux are aslo files
[12:46] <ren_> oh    i am   come here
[12:46] <jilianghou> 回忆洋阿
[12:46] <jilianghou> 在阿
[12:46] <tw1tch>  could cUBUc mount it within the private folder
[12:46] <ren_> 哦    极两阿
[12:46] <jilianghou> 是阿
[12:46] <ren_> 你尬哈呢
[12:46] <jrib> !ch
[12:46] <jrib> !cn
[12:47] <Schok> My ubuntu boots up in a read-only filesystem! And there is not gui just CLI right from GRUB to login screen. "sudo mount / -o remount,rw" works but if i "sudo gdm start" it shows the login screen but i cant  do anything, no mouse or keyboard input..how do i resolve this problem?
[12:47] <ren_> oh   sorry
[12:47] <cUBUc> I have only one user to login in Ubuntu... But the C: in windows, contains a particular folder.. which i dont want my siblings to see... if u know, what I mean
[12:48] <jilianghou> 啊
[12:48] <usas101> Hi!
[12:48] <jrib> cUBUc: then don't let them use your account.  Give them their own and don't give them access to it.  Or encrypt it...
[12:48] <tw1tch> !truecrypy
[12:49] <cUBUc> jrib: even if i set up another account for them, they can still mount the C: right.. Its not on the Ubuntu system... but on the windows NTFS
[12:49] <Schok> what about renaming the file with a "." in front of it?
[12:49] <Vigo> cUBUc: what jrib said, put them on a non admin account,
[12:49] <tw1tch> !truecrypt
[12:49] <paola> ciao
[12:49] <jrib> cUBUc: they could still boot a live cd though, or rip out your hard drive
[12:49] <tw1tch> i dont think thats actually the one you want
[12:49] <jilianghou> Which one is come from La France
[12:49] <b1n42y> i personally would add a user for each of your siblings
[12:50] <cUBUc> jrib: in windows, i have removed all user access to folder... Thus , even if they see it on the windows recent taskbar and click it..it wont play..
[12:50] <ren_> who   come from France?
[12:50] <b1n42y> cUBUc, that way if something goes wrong you can only blame yourself
[12:50] <silvinus> moi
[12:50] <Karlos> hello can someone help me to mount my memory stick please is sony
[12:51] <Schok> anyone knows how to change from read-only filesystem to read n write? i can do sudo mount / -o remount,rw but its only temporary
[12:51] <cUBUc> Karlos: shld be auto detect..
[12:51] <jrib> cUBUc: and you can do the same if you create accounts for them and don't give them access to it.  But with this method (and what you are doing in windows), they can always still access the files by loading a live cd for example.  It depends on how paranoid you are.
[12:52] <Karlos> is not detected
[12:52] <zer0_> any1 can help me with dual booting ubuntu and windows xp.ubuntu installed first
[12:52] <jilianghou> 干啥呢
[12:52] <b1n42y> !dualboot | zer0_,
[12:52] <quibbler> !cn | jilianghou
[12:52] <ren_> 尼采
[12:52] <ren_> 哈哈
[12:52] <jilianghou> 我用的是ubuntu和vista
[12:53] <ren_> 我用的是xp
[12:53] <Vigo> cUBUc: Put that stuff on Removable Media:CD-R/DVD-rw or whatever, and do not put it on the internet.
[12:53] <cUBUc> jrib: are you saying that i can prevent them mounting the C: ... but they need access to the C: .. cos all their files are in there
[12:53] <nomyself> you can use grub command
[12:53] <jilianghou> i can
[12:53] <Karlos> hello can someone help me to mount my memory stick please is sony
[12:53] <jrib> cUBUc: ok, then you need to encrypt the file.  You aren't going to have fine-grained permission control on ntfs on linux
[12:54] <cUBUc> Vigo: what are you saying dude.. I just want to block access to windows folder when they logged on in ubuntu
[12:54] <JGodbout> People can always get around it though
[12:54] <JGodbout> They can just boot off another linux disc
[12:54] <JGodbout> and have access
[12:54] <cUBUc> JGodbout: they aint that smart yet...
[12:55] <JGodbout> Hmm okay
[12:55] <gigabytes> Dreamglider: hello. the link you posted me explained how to install grub after windows had overwrite the mbr. I'm in the opposite situation. I have grub in the windows partition boot sector and I want to remove it
[12:55] <cUBUc> JGodbout: but you never know...
[12:55] <quibbler> Karlos: run  lsusb in a terminal and paste the output
[12:55] <gigabytes> Dreamglider: can you point me to another doc
[12:55] <gigabytes> ?
[12:55] <cUBUc> So the consensus is to encrypt it..
[12:55] <JGodbout> Or to make it hidden
[12:55] <Vigo> cUBUc: Exactly,and that is the best way, take it off the computer that the children have access to if you do not want them to stumble upon it. Is also like a backup. which I strongly advise everyone does on a regular basis.
[12:55] <JGodbout> i think one of the solutions was
[12:56] <Karlos> ok quibbler a minute pls
[12:56] <cUBUc> JGodbout: the thing about hidden.. is that if one of the video players has a history settings, and they click on it ... YOu are SCREWED
[12:57] <JGodbout> Oh
[12:57] <JGodbout> So it's porn we are hiding, is it?
[12:57] <mrwes> if you rm the porn, your kids can't watch it...sigh
[12:58] <mrwes> that's a difficult answer
[12:58] <Dr_willis_AAO> 'vacation pictures'
[12:58] <ren_> what do you think about       win7
[12:58] <ren_> ?
[12:58] <Dr_willis_AAO> ren_,  it works very well for me
[12:58] <Karlos> quibbler http://pastebin.com/d45cb799
[12:58] <ksbalaji>  smplayer shows permanent array of dots etc., Please see a snapshot - http://imagebin.ca/view/dXLYFq.html I was disconnected for a few minutes.
[12:58] <Dr_willis_AAO> ren_,  but im not paying $100+ per machine to upgrade
[12:58] <b1n42y> ren_, plz join ubuntu-offtopic
[12:58] <cUBUc> mrwes: i aint married dude... i am worried by younger siblings will click it...
[12:58] <ren_> oh
[12:58] <ren_> i will try  it
[12:58] <cUBUc> So cut the chase, how do you fellars hide it in linux...
[12:59] <quibbler> Karlos: indeed no sony stick...how is it formated?
[12:59] <mrwes> cUBUc, WTF is the difference -- be responsible man
[12:59] <Dr_willis_AAO> cUBUc,  not really an issue with  the Multi-user features
[12:59] <b1n42y> cUBUc, you have been given options, encrypt it via encrypt or create users
[12:59] <Dr_willis_AAO> user b cant get to user a's files.. so not a problem
[12:59] <ren_> in china   it will takes $500
[13:00] <b1n42y> ren_, this is a support channel
[13:00] <mrwes> cUBUc, put the stuff on a DVD or CD and store it
[13:00] <cUBUc> Dr_willis_AAO: I think just now only, jrib mentioned that linux security settings dont work on NTFS drives
[13:00] <tw1tch>   then move it to a linux partition?
[13:00] <Dr_willis_AAO> you can set ntfs to be accessable by ONLY one user. if you wanted
[13:01] <Karlos> quibbler i dont know, buy is from my digital camera and i can use there and in windows too
[13:01] <Dr_willis_AAO> If you want secure -  either do that.. or dont use ntfs
[13:01] <b1n42y> cUBUc, do you have linux partitions
[13:01] <b1n42y> ...
[13:02] <ksbalaji> any help with smplayer please?
[13:02] <cUBUc> Dr_willis_AAO: hei, how i do the setting , to allow only one ubuntu user to acces an ntfs partition..
[13:03] <cUBUc> b1n42y: my linux partition is not that big
[13:03] <Dr_willis_AAO> cUBUc,  mount it from the fstab with the proper UID option.
[13:03] <b1n42y> cUBUc, lol
[13:03] <quibbler> Karlos: is it a usb menmory stick or a memory card from the camera?
[13:03] <jrib> Dr_willis_AAO: he wants some files on it to be accessible
[13:03] <quibbler> memory
[13:04] <Dr_willis_AAO> jrib,  then hes out of luck
[13:04] <Dr_willis_AAO> jrib,  :)
[13:04] <cUBUc> b1n42y: kk, i will delete some and move it to the linux partition... so what are options now
[13:04] <mrwes> Why does he copy the files to removable media?
[13:04] <Dr_willis_AAO> with ntfs-3g/ntfs all permissions/ownership are set at mount time
[13:05] <b1n42y> cUBUc, encrypt or setup user account for each sibling
[13:05] <zer0_> i cant make ntfs partiton using gparted.please help
[13:05] <JUAN> Hola
[13:05] <b1n42y> cUBUc, like i said earlier i would setup user accounts
[13:05] <hapt1K> hi all
[13:05] <b1n42y> zer0_, m ore information please
[13:05] <tw1tch> couldnt he also just create a user account for himself and hide it from the "everybody" account?
[13:05] <mrwes> Can't he just let them use the guest account?
[13:05] <JUAN> Alguien en espanol!?
[13:06] <b1n42y> !spanish
[13:06] <equex> is there a way to regenerate applications.menu ? the menu editor botched the file, and my attempts at fixing in an editor it isnt making it better :(
[13:06] <cUBUc> b1n42y: k, a mammoth task now awaits me.. I will cut down the junk and move the best to the linux partion.. and set up the user accounts.. thks
[13:06] <zer0_> i using gparted to make ntfs partition to install windows xp(dual boot,ubuntu installed first..i cant choose ntfs partiiton.
[13:06] <hapt1K> could someone remind me what i need to install for compiling apps with gcc im missing loads of libs and
[13:06] <hapt1K> stuff
[13:06] <zer0_> i cant select for ntfs.it just ext2,3 n fat
[13:07] <funkyHat> cUBUc: You could move all of your files to Ubuntu and put then in an encrypted directory, then you wouldn't have to worry about what people look at on your NTFS partition
[13:07] <starykomputer> hi
[13:07] <starykomputer> I have a problem with NX Free
[13:07] <starykomputer> shh is working, I can login to another computer
[13:07] <starykomputer> with NX also but only on port 22
[13:07] <starykomputer> when I change port it can't authorize
[13:07] <FloodBot1> starykomputer: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:07] <b1n42y> funkyHat, he is space limited on linux partition
[13:07] <funkyHat> b1n42y: oh ok...
[13:08] <funkyHat> Perhaps he could create a ext3 partition image on the NTFS partition and encrypt that
[13:08] <JUAN> Hola
[13:08] <b1n42y> starykomputer, port 22 is default for ssh , you would need to change it
[13:09] <b1n42y> starykomputer, albo kup nowy komputer
[13:09] <zer0_> how to dual booting windows??
[13:09] <b1n42y> zer0 have your read wiki
[13:09] <hapt1K> google dual booting
[13:09] <ksbalaji> smplayer trouble - any help please?
[13:10] <b1n42y> !dualboot | zer0_
[13:10] <zer0_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot?action=show&redirect=WindowsDualBootHowTo
[13:10] <Dr_willis_AAO> ksbalaji,  ive found smplayer to be problematic..
[13:11] <ksbalaji> Dr_willis_AAO, thanks. I installed it since a nice person here suggested that smplayer is a good one.
[13:12] <Dr_willis_AAO> ksbalaji,  it is nice when it works.. but ive had it be flakeybefor.. i just use the noirmal mplayer
[13:12] <quibbler> got to go ..birthday party... good day all
[13:12] <b1n42y> VLC ftw
[13:12] <Dr_willis_AAO> ksbalaji,  you could summearize the problem to the channel and see who can help..or check the forums
[13:12] <zer0_> Backup the boot sector e.g. dd if=/dev/hda of=/mbr.bin bs=512 count=1
[13:12] <zer0_> where that file?
[13:13] <manishroy> hii
[13:13] <eTranquility> Hi, I'm running 8.10. Recently, no application can connect to the internet (including synaptic) except for Firefox and Pidgin. I have no idea what happened, how could I fix it?
[13:13] <hapt1K> does anyone here no anything about gcc?
[13:13] <ksbalaji> Dr_willis_AAO, you had the same problem? My smplayer shows an array of dots, arrows and lines. A snapshot :http://imagebin.ca/view/dXLYFq.html
[13:13] <jrib> hapt1K: someone probably knows something.  Better to just ask your question from the start.  If someone knows the answer, they will try to help you
[13:14] <ksbalaji> My smplayer shows an array of dots, arrows and lines. A snapshot :http://imagebin.ca/view/dXLYFq.html
[13:14] <hapt1K> jrib dont teach me how to irc
[13:14] <manishroy> hi, I am running 8.04 version. i just now installed the sound codecs all the songs are playing but there is no sound.what mignt be the problem ??
[13:14] <manishroy> can anyone help?
[13:14] <Karlos> quibbler it say memory stick produo
[13:14] <b1n42y> zer0_, looks like mbr.bin is in root directory
[13:15] <scatterp-> ok i have this tv http://www.hdtvsolutions.com/Dell-W3706MC.htm and a ps3 runing ubuntu 8.10 i want to set the maximum resoloution i guess i need to use sudo ps3-video-mode -v 0 but thats not doing it can anyone help?
[13:15] <JUAN> Hola
[13:15] <scatterp-> hola
[13:15] <JUAN> K tal?
[13:15] <b1n42y> zer0_, or not
[13:15] <manishroy> hi, I am running 8.04 version. i just now installed the sound codecs all the songs are playing but there is no sound.what mignt be the problem ??can anyone help?
[13:16] <scatterp-> problemos con mi ps3 y tele
[13:16] <b1n42y> !italian
[13:16] <Dr_willis_AAO> ksbalaji,  sounds like a video driver issue. see if mplayer has the same problem. try changing the Video output options
[13:16] <tony29> can someone tell me why vista is mounting my ext3 partition after uninstalling extifs?
[13:16] <scatterp-> b1n42y spain
[13:16] <scatterp-> !spanish
[13:16] <fearful> b1n42y, thats spanish
[13:16] <b1n42y> ;p
[13:16] <strange> hey guys i only have sound if i start a util from root, how do i readd my own user to audio group it stopped owrking all of a sudden
[13:16] <scatterp-> b1n42y any ideas on my problem mate?
[13:17] <tony29> anyone? it's giving me bsod's now and i think it's not completely uninstalled
[13:17] <ksbalaji> Dr_willis_AAO, mplayer video is ok. what is output option?
[13:17] <manishroy> even after installing the sound codecs i dont have any sound.please help?
[13:17] <scatterp-> fearful spanish is actualy quite simular to italian
[13:17] <Dr_willis_AAO> ksbalaji, check the settings theres a 'VO' option
[13:17] <fearful> scatterp-, I know, I can speak spanish I'm a native speaker...
[13:17] <b1n42y> scatterp-, not sure
[13:17] <mrxgerman> Hi all
[13:18] <Dr_willis_AAO> ksbalaji,  smplayer is just a front end to mplayer. so double check the settings in both
[13:18] <scatterp-> b1n42y ok
[13:18] <scatterp-> fearful where from ?
[13:18] <fearful> scatterp-, El Salvador, but thats off topic :P
[13:18] <mrxgerman> is theire a possibility to upgrade the ubuntu server to ubuntu dektop
[13:18] <scatterp-> fearful was just curious
[13:18] <manishroy> Dr_willis_AAO,Sound problem please help??
[13:18] <b1n42y> scatterp-, maybe !resolution can help
[13:18] <scatterp-> !resolution
[13:18] <fosco_> mrxgerman, yes, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[13:19] <fearful> scatterp-, I know, just can't talk about that here not that I'm being mean :(
[13:19] <scatterp-> no problem
[13:20] <ksbalaji> I was tempted to use smplayer when someone said that it is not jerky like other players. Unfortunately, players using wine (ones popular with msoft) are quite good!
[13:20] <scatterp-> b1n42y that way dont work some how that was broken in the ps3 port of ubuntu so they have a ps3-video-mode command
[13:20] <Dr_willis_AAO> ksbalaji,  smplayer should be able to play idenctically to mplayer
[13:20] <Dr_willis_AAO> ksbalaji,  i use mplayer and vlc for most all my needs.
[13:21]  * KingMbare alza la mano
[13:21] <ksbalaji> Dr_willis_AAO, you are right. Especially VLC with wine is very good.
[13:21] <jrib> ksbalaji: you know vlc can run natively on linux?
[13:21]  * KingMbare :O
[13:21] <hapt1K> hey all noob question but i cant remember what packages to install so i can compile apps with gcc
[13:21] <jrib> hapt1K: build-essential
[13:22] <hapt1K> thats right thanks - sorry for my ass attitude earlier- was frustrated
[13:22] <hapt1K> cheers bud
[13:22] <ksbalaji> jrib, nope. I shall try. - Do I install again on linux from repositories?
[13:22] <b1n42y> scatterp-, oh well ..
[13:22] <b1n42y> scatterp-, google?
[13:22] <Dr_willis_AAO> ksbalaji,  ive never seen a need to use 'vlc' with wine.. its a native linux app.
[13:22] <D_likescookies> how do i run a program that's not in the main list?
[13:23] <b1n42y> alt+f2
[13:23] <Schok> My ubuntu boots up in a read-only filesystem! And there is not gui just CLI right from GRUB to login screen. "sudo mount / -o remount,rw" works but if i "sudo gdm start" it shows the login screen but i cant  do anything, no mouse or keyboard input..how do i resolve this problem?
[13:23] <hawk808> hello
[13:24] <hapt1K> jrib: leet im compiling away - cheers
[13:24] <ksbalaji> Dr_willis_AAO, jrib - do I have to install VLC again on linux ( I have it installed in a msoft. partition - though I do not use msoft OS nowadays.)
[13:25] <Schok> i guess i have to reinstall T_T
[13:25] <b1n42y> ksbalaji, sudo aptitude install vlc
[13:25] <zukero> hi
[13:26] <b1n42y> !ask | hawk808
[13:26] <Dr_willis_AAO> ksbalaji,  forget about 'wine' and vlc.. Install the vlc from the repos
[13:26] <Dr_willis_AAO> ksbalaji,  Totally forget about using wine to play media players.. thers no need for it.
[13:26]  * b1n42y sleep time night all
[13:27] <ksbalaji> Dr_willis_AAO, thanks. jrib thanks. I was not aware that vlc has a linux version.
[13:27] <zukero> i'm having trouble on 8.10 trying to "chmod -R 775" on an external HD mount point
[13:27] <Dr_willis_AAO> ksbalaji,  vlc homepage is our friend. :)
[13:27] <Dr_willis_AAO> ksbalaji,  Programs homepages are our friends. :)
[13:27] <zukero> the command returns no error, yet the files' mask stays 755
[13:28] <Dr_willis_AAO> zukero,  let me guess? this is a ntfs filesystem>
[13:28] <zukero> Dr_willis_AAO: nope vfat
[13:28] <ksbalaji> Dr_willis_AAO, I had to use wine for vlc because mplayer, xine,gxine, totem all were jerky!
[13:28] <Dr_willis_AAO> zukero,  same limitation
[13:28] <Dr_willis_AAO> ksbalaji,  change the video-output options.
[13:29] <zukero> Dr_willis_AAO: is there a way to give several users rw rights on a vat fs ?
[13:29] <Dr_willis_AAO> with ntfs-3g/ntfs all permissions/ownership are set at mount time
[13:29] <Dr_willis_AAO> zukero,  you can set it where ALL have rights.. or only 1.
[13:29] <Dr_willis_AAO> ksbalaji,  also be sure you got the right video card drivers.
[13:29] <hawk808> have been using xubuntu on usb but cannot access a windows hdd i have. does ubuntu have the same problems
[13:30] <pc_insect> selamun aleyküm millet
[13:30] <zukero> Dr_willis_AAO: meening no group rwx rights possible ?
[13:30] <pc_insect> hi
[13:30] <Dr_willis_AAO> zukero,  not withj ntfs/vfat - you could check the various ntfs-under linux guides.. the same limitions apply as far as i know. they mayhave work aronds
[13:30] <runpain2> Where can i get vmware workstation for ubuntu
[13:30] <ksbalaji> Dr_willis_AAO, I shall try changing output options. If only I knew something while tinkering with this...
[13:30] <Dr_willis_AAO> ksbalaji,  Programs homepages are our friends. :)
[13:31] <zukero> Dr_willis_AAO: thx for your insight..
[13:31] <ksbalaji> Dr_willis_AAO,  ok friend! :)
[13:31] <PPKuma> hi, how do i know if i have installed the 32 bits or the 64 bits version?
[13:31] <pc_insect> I am from turkey
[13:32] <runpain2> iwant to use it to run  windows xp on so that my wife can use yahoo Im to play games with her daughter
[13:32] <zukero> PPKuma: uname -a
[13:33] <zukero> PPKuma:  if you see something like i386 or any ix86 : it's 32 bits
[13:33] <runpain2> she cant play games on yahoo with ubuntu cause there is no yahoo im for linux
[13:33] <tony29> fsck
[13:33] <PPKuma> zukero: Linux kuma-desktop 2.6.27-11-generic #1 SMP Thu Jan 29 19:24:39 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
[13:33] <zukero> PPKuma: i686 : 32 bits
[13:34] <PPKuma> zukero: thanks
[13:34] <zukero> PPKuma: to be sure, you can try something like "file `which ls`"
[13:35] <dijital1> intersting
[13:35] <PPKuma> zukero: yep, that showed 32bits
[13:35] <PPKuma> thanks :)
[13:36] <runpain2> can some one help me
[13:36] <tony29> runpain2, no
[13:37] <Dr_willis_AAO> !ask
[13:37] <runpain2> !yahoo Im
[13:37] <runpain2> !vmware
[13:38] <tony29> !!
[13:38] <runpain2> !VirtualBox
[13:38] <tony29> !runpain
[13:38] <tony29> !ubottu
[13:38] <Dreamglider> how do i change the premissions on a ext partition so i can drag and drop files to it ?
[13:38] <tony29> Dreamglider, chmod
[13:39] <jimi_hendrix> is there a way i can check if a backage such as texinfo is installed?
[13:39] <tony29> !chmod
[13:39] <Dreamglider> tks
[13:39] <tony29> np
[13:40] <erUSUL> jimi_hendrix: apt-cache policy packagename
[13:40] <jimi_hendrix> oh i forgot
[13:40] <jimi_hendrix> no apt allowed
[13:40] <Gartral1> is there a way to get rotation support with drivers that don't have native rotation support
[13:40] <oozo> Hi all ... does installing all the recommended updates in ubuntu, have any side effects ?
[13:41] <jazzman101> hi everyone. I'm looking for a ftp or http mirror of the 8.10 alternate cd for i386. Can only find slow torrents on ubuntu.com. Any ideas?
[13:41] <fosco_> oozo, kepping the systemupdated is a good idea
[13:41] <oozo> thanks fosco_
[13:41] <tony29> oozo, it shouldn't. they're deemed stable enough if in the recommended updates
[13:41] <Gartral1> oozo: as long as your system is working correctly (hardware wise) it should be fine, why what problems have you encountered
[13:42] <hapt1K> could someone please tell me why i cannot add a VPN connection to my "Network Connections" under 8.10 - am i missing a package or something??
[13:42] <hapt1K> the add button will not highlight
[13:42] <Gartral1> is there a way to get rotation support with drivers that don't have native rotation support?
[13:43] <Gartral1> omg, is there a way to silence the join messages in pidgin??????????
[13:44] <Amendment> Hey, when i try to use pwmconfig, i get error "/usr/sbin/pwmconfig: There are no pwm-capable sensor modules installed"
[13:44] <spool2> does anyone know if ubuntu 10.8 includes openssl development package?
[13:44] <Schok> eh? u can use pidgin to chat irc?
[13:44] <Amendment> ya
[13:44] <Schok> gosh i never knew that =_=
[13:45] <jazzman101> tools > preferences > sounds
[13:45] <spool2> im trying to install aircrack
[13:45] <hapt1K> pidgin owns
[13:45] <spool2> and the error i am getting
[13:45] <spool2> seems to be because openssl is not installed
[13:45] <oozo> Gartal1- start here
[13:45] <oozo> Gartal1 - https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+question/57035
[13:45] <Schok> too bad pidgin doesnt support webcams for now..
[13:45] <Gartral1> grr, i have this really nice panel lcd, that can turn 90% but i can't get the driver to rotate the output'
[13:46] <JUAN> Hola
[13:46] <Gartral1> can't use compiz, im running waaayyyyy too many games under wine
[13:46] <oozo> Gartal1- try using compiz
[13:46] <Schok> i cant run any games using wine..sigh
[13:46] <Gartral1> oozo: i can't use compiz with wine
[13:46] <Schok> it'll just flicker alot
[13:47] <Gartral1> Schok: uninstall compiz, i was having severe difficulties with wine+compiz together
[13:47] <hapt1K> Gartral1: check ur prefences
[13:47] <tony29> Gartral1, grab hold of the monitor and flip it 90 degrees. that's the linux way
[13:47] <hapt1K> damn im lagged
[13:47] <hapt1K> sorry
[13:48] <Schok> Gartral1:   nah no way, i love compiz(nice to show off..lol) and i dual boot with xp so i can play games
[13:49] <Gartral1> hapt1K: where is "ur" preferences? if you mean the screen resolution page, theres no rotation function there all it says is "none" and tony29 my screen supports rotation, my hardware does not
[13:49] <Amendment> Hey, when i try to use pwmconfig, i get error "/usr/sbin/pwmconfig: There are no pwm-capable sensor modules installed"
[13:49] <Dr_willis_AAO> rotion would depend on the video card drivers i imagine. You could try the xrandr commands i guess
[13:50] <Gartral1> Dr_willis_AAO: was that aimed at me?
[13:50] <hapt1K> Gartral1: i was lagged and reading something else got confused... ignore my statement about preferences it doesnt have anything to do with anything lol
[13:50] <Dr_willis_AAO> to whoever. :)(
[13:50] <Dr_willis_AAO> I can rotate with my intel and nvidia systems
[13:50] <Gartral1> right, i have a reallly old nvidia AGP slot card
[13:51] <Mat-Cauthon> hey.. can someone help me to get my webcam to work with kopete using msn? using ubuntu 8.10, webcam is detected just fine in the settings and works with other apps, but when i click "send webcam" nothing happens
[13:51] <Dr_willis_AAO> No ideaon the older nvidia drivers/cards.. try the nvidia-settings tool yet?
[13:51] <Gartral1> Dr_willis_AAO: nope, i have the restricted drivers, does that command come with those?
[13:56] <Gartral1> Dr_willis_AAO: i just went through the nvidia-settings program, nothing even mentioning rotation
[13:57] <Gartral1> on the other paw, this hardware is left over from 2002
[14:01] <graceong> my webcam doesn't connect
[14:01] <graceong> doesn't work in linux
[14:01] <graceong> works good in xp
[14:01] <graceong> whats the problem.. anything I need to install?
[14:02] <Dr_willis_AAO> !webcam
[14:02] <hapt1K> goal chelsea that was awesome
[14:02] <Gartral1> graceong: note, there is a mile-high-pile of webcams that just flatout don't work in linux
[14:02] <hapt1K> wowz0rs
[14:03] <graceong> so whats the best thing to do
[14:03] <Dr_willis_AAO> rewsearch YOUR cam
[14:03] <sochi> some hp webcams dont work on vista, but do work in linux
[14:03] <hapt1K> or buy one that works under ubuntu
[14:03] <Gartral1> graceong: go check the compatibilities list, and buy a new cam, or start writing drivers for yours
[14:04] <Gartral1> sochi: i heard about that
[14:04] <Gartral1> but i havent used a winblows os since xp sp1
[14:05] <hapt1K> he only needs the cam for livejasmin chats anyway :P
[14:06] <yugo> Where can I found the latest vmware-tools which work properly on ubuntu 9.04?
[14:06] <tony29> wow, i wish i could be cool and say winblows in a demeaning fashion. but i use windows, so i never will be
[14:07] <hapt1K> knocking operating systems is very 1997 anyway each os has its ups and downs
[14:08] <Gartral1> tony29: just say say "windoze" it's close enoough not many people will notice!
[14:08] <Dr_willis_AAO> Winders
[14:08] <Dr_willis_AAO> :
[14:09] <graceong> Gartral1 : you mean to say that any web cam wouldn't work in ubuntu?
[14:09] <brasko> when I do 'apt-get install rubber' it wants to also install git, why?
[14:09] <brasko> I _just_ want to install rubber, any easy workaround?
[14:09] <Dr_willis_AAO> Some web cams have NO linux support.
[14:09] <graceong> ohhh
[14:09] <danbhfive> brasko: thats a strange request, but I can give you the answer if you really want.  rubber may not function correctly
[14:10] <graceong> maybe this one needs an installation? for it to work?
[14:10] <danbhfive> brasko: btw, I don't see git when I try to do it
[14:10]  * KingMbare è morto per un esplosione
[14:11] <Gartral1> im sorry, but when the operating system in question takes such tight controll of your system that it repulses people from using it, it deserves to be knocked (talking about Vista here) graceong: theres a fairly large list of cams that "just dont work" but from experience, i know that alot of logitech cams work well
[14:11] <brasko> actually, it doesn't matter what I try to install
[14:11] <brasko> I always see, "The following extra packages will be installed: git"
[14:11] <graceong> ohhh
[14:11] <noaXess> hi all
[14:11]  * KingMbare resuscita per bere un pò di cioccolata è fare felice SignoreOscuro 
[14:11] <noaXess> is this channel also for the server edition of 8.04 LTS?
[14:11] <danbhfive> brasko: even with: sudo apt-get isntall -f?
[14:12] <brasko> yes
[14:12] <jrib> noaXess: yes
[14:12] <noaXess> okay. :)
[14:12] <Gartral1> danbhfive: *coughcheckyourspeelingcough*
[14:12] <noaXess> is it better to enalbe the backports and partner repos in /etc/apt/sources.list?
[14:12] <brasko> danbhfive: I have no idea why it would want to upgrade git on me
[14:12] <brasko> is there an 'apt-get cherrypick' command? :)
[14:13] <tony29> sudo apt-get install rubber. i think that's the only time a linux geek has to worry about installing rubber
[14:13] <danbhfive> brasko: that means you have a package on your system already, that already needs git, I think
[14:13] <tony29> thanks folks, i'll be here all night
[14:13] <noaXess> tony29: and day? :)
[14:13] <albacker> Hello everyone, how can i get rid of the system-beep (not just remove the gnome-terminal beep.). I tried something i found in google by blacklisting pcspkr i think, but that didn't really work out.
[14:13] <jrib> albacker: "didn't really work out"?
[14:13] <brasko> like, no matter what I do I see
[14:13] <brasko> 1 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 120 not upgraded.
[14:13] <brasko> where the 1 upgraded is git
[14:14] <brasko> the 1 newly installed is what I want
[14:14] <albacker> jrib, i still get the beep.
[14:14] <brasko> and there is another 120 that needs to be upgraded, but won't be, because i'm not requiesting it
[14:14] <jrib> albacker: lsmod | grep pcspkr
[14:14] <albacker> jrib, sorry if that didn't sound 'proper english' to you :)
[14:14] <danbhfive> brasko: try upgrading in general first, and then remove git.  See what happens.  Other than that, I dunno
[14:14] <smast> does anyone have any idea why videos will not play on firefox browser IE youtube, surfthechannel?
[14:14] <albacker> jrib, yes it's running. pcspkr                 10624  0  that's the output of the line.
[14:15] <brasko> well, I use git :)
[14:15] <jrib> albacker: I'm guessing you haven't rebooted since blacklisting it?
[14:15] <ortsvorsteher> smast: do you have flashplugin-nonfree installed?
[14:15] <smast> yes i do
[14:15] <albacker> jrib, in fact i have. I added blacklist pcspkr to a line which i don't remember for the moment.
[14:15] <Acedip> i'm getting some fsck failed errors when i boot my machine and it says a maintenance shell is started. the errors are also logged in /var/log/fsck/chkfs  http://paste.debian.net/29959/ ...kindly help ??
[14:15] <ortsvorsteher> smast: uninstall all other flash players if there are installed
[14:16] <jrib> albacker: if it's loading, then it's not blacklisted
[14:16] <smast> ok ill give it a shot
[14:16] <cjcr> hello
[14:16] <danbhfive> Acedip: try sudo blkid     and see if you see the offending UUID
[14:16] <albacker> jrib, can you give me a fast hint on what to do ?
[14:16] <Gartral1> grr, i have this really nice panel lcd, that can turn 90 degrees but i can't get the driver to rotate the output, i can't install compiz cause of wine, and the drivers are no help at all, is there alternate program to rotate the display output?
[14:16] <cjcr> any speak Spanish?
[14:16] <jrib> !blacklist | albacker
[14:17] <albacker> jrib, thanks a lot.
[14:17] <Gartral1> !espanol
[14:17] <smast> ortsvorsteher: that is the only plugin installed
[14:17] <Acedip> danbhfive, yes , its all over..
[14:17] <ortsvorsteher> smast: so i have no idea....
[14:17] <cjcr> thanks!
[14:18] <albacker> jrib, i think i don't really have my_blacklist, but there's /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[14:18] <Mat-Cauthon> hey.. can someone help me to get my webcam to work with kopete using msn? using ubuntu 8.10, webcam is detected just fine in the settings and works with other apps, but when i click "send webcam" nothing happens
[14:18] <Mat-Cauthon> just in case that was overlooked before :s
[14:18] <jrib> albacker: it's just any file.  So you can keep things organized
[14:19] <Flynsarmy> I have an NTFS formatted drive that uses ntfs-3g. Isit possible to share folders on this drive with samba? When i try it says i can only share folders i own. Chown is of no use.
[14:19] <smast> ortsvorsteher: thanks for the tru
[14:19] <Gartral1> Mat-Cauthon: 2 things, first, are you sure your sending to another msn account, second, is the other account using kopete as well?
[14:19] <smast> try*
[14:19] <ortsvorsteher> :)
[14:19] <Mat-Cauthon> the other account is using windows live messenger
[14:19] <Mat-Cauthon> whcih only supports msn of course :p
[14:20] <Acedip> danbhfive, i mean yes, UUID is there in all entries
[14:20] <Gartral1> Mat-Cauthon: thats wrong, windows live supports yahoo aswell
[14:20] <albacker> jrib, just have a look at this. and yes i did reboot : http://rafb.net/p/cRiDhv53.html
[14:20] <Mat-Cauthon> oh, never noticed
[14:20] <Mat-Cauthon> well, it's an msn account anyways ;)
[14:21] <albacker> jrib, there's a typo in fact. pcskpr instead of pcspkr * . Thanks for the help again.
[14:21] <jrib> albacker: good eye
[14:21] <Acedip> danbhfive, and what is UUID anyways, i mean is it of any use..
[14:21] <Gartral1> Mat-Cauthon: also, i was very specific, if things have not changed, then kopete still cannot transmit voice/cam accross platforms, both _must_ be running kopete to work, but i may be wrong
[14:22] <Gartral1> however, i believe yahoo worked, last i checked
[14:22] <kennyyu> hi there, i wish to know if there is JavaEE in the apt repo of ubuntu?
[14:23] <Gartral1> kennyyu: you can't search the repos?
[14:24] <mushroomstampit> mic check
[14:25] <kennyyu> Gartral1: i google'd it a bit and it seems there is only an installer available from Sun Microsystem...
[14:25] <dnielsen> mushroomstampit: Oh Wait a minute now
[14:25] <Gartral1> what IRC client can anyone recomend for gnome environments?
[14:25] <runpain2> !VirtualBox
[14:25] <mushroomstampit> ?
[14:25] <Mat-Cauthon> alright, thanks a lot for the info Gartral1
[14:25] <dnielsen> Gartral1: I use xchat-gnome, it works really well
[14:25] <codeuser> !free
[14:25] <runpain2> !Vmware
[14:26] <codeuser> !Parallels
[14:26] <Dr_willis_AAO> Gartral1,  i use xchat in all enviroments
[14:26] <dnielsen> mushroomstampit: oh I though you were trying to start a colelctive singing of some Rage Against the Machine
[14:26] <maverick340> does ubuntu have some form of notification reminder software ?
[14:26] <codeuser> !C
[14:26] <codeuser> !C++
[14:26] <codeuser> !Gcc
[14:26] <mushroomstampit> ah
[14:26] <mushroomstampit> ic
[14:26] <maverick340> simple software that pops up the upcoming tasks or something ?
[14:26] <codeuser> !gxx
[14:26] <dnielsen> maverick: Tasque
[14:26] <codeuser> !fortran
[14:27]  * Dr_willis_AAO hides from fortran
[14:27] <mushroomstampit> !jomomma
[14:27] <maverick340> dnielsen, tasque doesnt have pop up notifications , does it ?
[14:27] <kennyyu> Gartral1: i use chatzilla :P
[14:27] <erUSUL> !botabuse | codeuser
[14:27] <mushroomstampit> irssi is where its at
[14:27] <mushroomstampit> !irssi
[14:27] <dnielsen> maverick340: I am not sure, but if it doesn't it should.. I will file a feauture request
[14:28] <Flynsarmy> I have an NTFS formatted drive that uses ntfs-3g. Isit possible to share folders on this drive with samba? When i try it says i can only share folders i own. Chown is of no use.
[14:28] <kennyyu> Gartral1: and it's currently giving the ever best irc-experience
[14:28] <maverick340> and can it sync with evolution ?
[14:28] <dnielsen> maverick340: it has a e.d.s backend as i recall along with remember the milk
[14:28]  * Gartral1 would prefer not having to rely on firefox for his IRC
[14:29] <Acedip> i'm getting some fsck failed errors when i boot my machine and it says a maintenance shell is started. the errors are also logged in /var/log/fsck/chkfs  http://paste.debian.net/29959/ ...kindly help ??
[14:29] <maverick340> otherwise till now i use evolutions sync wtih Google calendar
[14:29] <tony29> Flynsarmy, with linux, you get what you pay for
[14:29] <kennyyu> Gartral1: you can run chatzilla on xulrunner so that it starts as a separate process... but maybe the way requires some xulrunner knowledge...
[14:29] <maverick340> and click the date and time button on the taskbar to show upcoming appointments
[14:30] <kennyyu> xulrunner is like RCP of the eclipse platform and allows xul (mozilla-based) applications running on its own process... e.g., songbird
[14:30] <Flynsarmy> tony29, how is that helpful in the slightest?
[14:30] <bakarat> does anyone know if btrfs will support encryption in any way?
[14:30] <kennyyu> iiuc
[14:31] <runpain2> !QEmu
[14:31] <dnielsen> !mono
[14:31] <Gartral1> Flynsarmy: iv'e hit that before, you username on the server has to matxh your linux box's username, that fixed it for me
[14:31] <kennyyu> !xulrunner
[14:31] <tony29> Flynsarmy, just a word of warning
[14:31] <tony29> !windows
[14:32] <kennyyu> ubuttu: xulrunner is XULRunner is a runtime environment developed by the Mozilla Foundation to provide a common back-end for XUL applications. It replaced the Gecko Runtime Environment, a stalled project with a similar purpose.
[14:32] <kennyyu> ubuttu: XULRunner is a runtime environment developed by the Mozilla Foundation to provide a common back-end for XUL applications. It replaced the Gecko Runtime Environment, a stalled project with a similar purpose.
[14:32] <Flynsarmy> GaRRu1, the NTFS formatted drive is one of two drives in the linux box. i'm trying to share it
[14:32] <Gartral1> tony29: on the note of "you get what you paid for". Have you ever heard of Xandros?
[14:33] <kennyyu> !xulrunner
[14:33] <kennyyu> !XULRunner
[14:33] <tony29> Gartral1, yes
[14:33] <kennyyu> ubottu doesn't remember things...
[14:34] <albacker> can i Standby/Hibernate from COMMAND LINE?
[14:34] <Gartral1> so then you know about the pitaful lack of support they give for there _VERY_ expensive enterprise level OS then?
[14:34] <^Cheeky> !sound
[14:34] <jrib> albacker: yes (I don't remember how though)
[14:35] <albacker> jrib, well that's a help. *googles*.
[14:35] <jrib> albacker: pm-<TAB> may or may not help
[14:35] <tony29> ....and so i reinforce, you get what you pay for. you paid for it, you got it
[14:35] <albacker> jrib, yeah, pm-suspend pm-hibernate. nice :) thanks
[14:37] <VladaD> Hi, can I have 1 question? How much stable is Alpha 5 version of Jaunty? I will have new PC next week and I'm not decided, if I should install Intrepid or Jaunty. What are your opinions?
[14:37] <kennyyu> !intrepid
[14:38] <kennyyu> VladaD: i'm using 8.10... i think it's okay
[14:39] <runpain2> !vmware
[14:39] <jrib> !jaunty | VladaD
[14:39] <kennyyu> in my first few days using 8.10 on my laptop, i had got a trouble resuming from hibination. but it's okay now after some auto- system update
[14:39] <_VIM_> VladaD: are you new to Ubuntu/Linux? if so i do NOT recommend a Alpha version of Anything, It's going to be released next month anyways, might wanna wait a bit ;)
[14:39] <Gartral1> VladaD: i'm using 8.10 and i think it's f**kall amazing!
[14:39] <eidolon> hi folks, can anyone help me get sound working on my intrepid install?  i've had occasinal times when it was working, but now I can't get a peep out of it.  alsamixer shows the volumes are up, when i do an 'aplay foo.wav' it acts like it's playingit, but nothing comes out.  volume is up.
[14:40] <kennyyu> Gartral1: ;) you mean it's awful or...?
[14:40] <Gartral1> eidolon: do you have multiple sound cards?
[14:40] <runpain2> !VirtualBox
[14:40] <eidolon> Gartral1: nosir.  this is a laptop.
[14:40] <Gartral1> kennyyu: i think 8.10 it a pleasure to run
[14:40] <vineeth> how can i do voice chat yahoo or gmail in ubuntu 8.10
[14:40] <craigbass1976> how much of a pain is writing to ntfs these days?  I've just fixed a friends windows box, and am thinking of dual booting her, but she'll need to access music and pictures from either OS.
[14:40]  * kennyyu agrees with Gartral1
[14:41] <Gartral1> eidolon: not sure, but try !pulseaudio
[14:41] <eidolon> ung, pulse.  right.
[14:41] <eidolon> !pulseaudio
[14:41] <deany> how come when i enable my wireless (i dont need it primarily i just testing it)..activated the broadcom/fwcutter driver and connected to my router fine but it fluctuates from 70-80% strength when im sat on top of the router
[14:42] <Flynsarmy> I have an NTFS formatted drive that uses ntfs-3g. Isit possible to share folders on this drive with samba? When i try it says i can only share folders i own. Chown is of no use.
[14:42] <Dr_willis_AAO> Flynsarmy,  yes its possible
[14:42] <Guy19> I have the following problem : Flash player (adobe-nonfree) is too buggy and scrolling through pages with lots of flash content is very slow
[14:42] <Dr_willis_AAO> Flynsarmy,  mount them from fstab and set the permissions properly
[14:42] <Gartral1> deany: that's the wifi signal, move about a foot away and testagain
[14:42] <deany> its 95%+ and 54mbs in windows.. and actually downloads 850k/s which is my max even with a cable
[14:42] <craigbass1976> Flynsarmy, sudo chown either?
[14:42] <Guy19> i would appreciate any help
[14:42] <Dr_willis_AAO> you do NOT chown ntfs/vfat mountpoints
[14:43] <Flynsarmy> craigbass1976, as i said, chown is of no use. it just does nothing
[14:43] <Dr_willis_AAO> You MUST set the permissions when mounted
[14:43] <deany> the app says 18mbs and 24mbs sometimes.. seems poor
[14:43] <craigbass1976> ahh; I hav enot had to mess with vfat or ntfs for ages
[14:43] <Flynsarmy> Dr_willis_AAO, newbie here, how would i mount them manually with fstab? ATM i just let ntfs-config handle it for me
[14:43] <craigbass1976> other than from a live cd
[14:43] <deany> Gartral1, well im about 3 foot away, laptop on the desk and router on a shelf above.
[14:44] <vineeth> heloo anybody help me to do voice chat in yahoo or gmail in ubuntu
[14:44] <_VIM_> Guy19: I'm not really a flash guy, but have you tried other web browsers? For me Firefox scrolls pages really slow on flash sites, but Opera handles it with no problem, so you might want to try other browsers if you haven't already :)
[14:44] <Gartral1> deany: don't know then
[14:44] <deany> well, thank god i dont need wifi then..
[14:44] <Guy19> all browsers have the same problem..even opera
[14:45] <Gartral1> deany: you'll still get a solid connection, even if it drops a few sepeed levels, i think thats part of the powersaver
[14:45]  * Gartral1 needs coffe too continue this conversation
[14:46] <Dr_willis_AAO> Flynsarmy,  ntfs-3g is documented all over the place.. withn examples.
[14:46] <Dr_willis_AAO> !ntfs-3g
[14:46] <deany> about flash.. firefox with flash for me and using file hosting sites (megaupload/mediafire etc all that use flash as interface) hang FF while its uploading..cant do a thing with it, apart from minimise/maximise...only uploading tho.. its fine in xp/FF
[14:46] <deany> so seems to me flash aint so great in FF/ubuntu
[14:47] <deany> i have to use xp in a virtualbox :(
[14:48] <deany> once upload finished its ok
[14:48] <deany> just a little niggle thought id share lol
[14:48] <[kaczis]> it
[14:48] <Guy19> its strange that firefox works perfect on XP...
[14:49] <deany> actually, FF has just updated.. ill try it again
[14:49] <Guy19> i updated and nothing changed..
[14:49] <Dr_willis_AAO> 'flash is a problem' is no suprise...
[14:50] <deany> nope.. still useless
[14:50] <Guy19> this problem occurs on other distros too
[14:52] <Guy19> gnash is a good alternative but you 'll have to wait for the next version as current have many problems
[14:53] <mezy_> hey
[14:53] <root3> hello
[14:54] <Guy19> anyway..thanks for your time, have a great weekend!
[14:54] <mezy_> i am using ubuntu on  a live cd, and have another on usb, this there a way to have th one on the usb save changes
[14:54] <eidolon> here's another one - intrepid seems to have messed up the control-alt-delete dialog.  there's no 'suspend' there, and it constantly pops up underneath other windows.  Any suggestions?
[14:55] <mereo> I'm having a problem with the mouse's feel, did anybody here configured xset?
[14:55] <jrib> mereo: best to just ask the channel your question.  If someone knows the answer, they will try to help you
[14:56] <mezy_> i hate the mornings. i can never type good
[14:56] <mereo> well, it's not really a question because it's related on how people configured xset, if ever, so that they get the same mouse feeling as Windows. Btw, I'm using lomoco to put my logitech mx500 at 80dpi
[14:57] <root3> So, has anyone tried jaunty?
[14:57] <mereo> 800dpi*
[14:57] <jrib> mereo: the answer to your question is "yes".  Does that help you in any way?
[14:57] <qknight> schmidtm: he, are you there?
[14:57] <scunizi> root3: questions about jaunty are answered in #ubuntu+1
[14:57] <mezy_> i am using ubuntu on  a live cd. i have another ubuntu installation on usb. is this there a way to have the one on the usb to save changes?
[14:58] <mereo> jrib, lol, what was your xset settings?
[14:58] <mezy_> sorry for the repost
[14:58] <storbeck> lol jrib
[14:58] <mereo> jrib, mine is xset 11/8 0
[14:59] <Dante123> gods of ubuntu:  friend has  AMD athlon(m) 64x2 dual core  4200+ 2.20 GHz, 2.00 GB ram with TP-link 54M wireless PCI adapter 2.4GHz  802.11g/b  54Mbps  model no.Tl-WN353G.   Should he go 32-bit ubuntu or 64 bit???  Does he need "amd" iso of ubuntu? Should wifi work (any issues?)?
[14:59] <storbeck> Since he has a 64bit processor, he should use the 64bit version
[15:00] <jrib> mereo: I've since just gone back to the defaults
[15:00] <ma5t3rw1tt> Hello everyone, how is everyone doing?
[15:00] <scunizi> storbeck: now why do you say that?
[15:00] <Dante123> storbeck is there a specific iso for Amd (or is that a thing of the past)?
[15:00] <mereo> jrib, you didn't use lomoco?
[15:00] <jrib> mereo: no
[15:00] <abe3k> hi guys , I was wondering if there was a way to have different color depths for different accounts on ubuntu
[15:01] <storbeck> !amd
[15:01] <storbeck> Anyway, he doesn't need a specific amd version
[15:01] <ma5t3rw1tt> I thought linux supported all kinds of processors, even those of amd and arm processors?
[15:02] <ubuntu_> O.O
[15:02] <jrib> ma5t3rw1tt: it does...
[15:02] <mereo> jrib, I'm just finding the mouse a little slow at default. And the default setting with lomoco 800dpi makes the mouse a heck faster
[15:02] <Boski-PL> I cant mount Sil raid0
[15:02] <ma5t3rw1tt> I thought so, maybe i did not understand or read the question right
[15:02] <erUSUL> Dante123: there was never an special amd iso. 32 bit is fine. wifi: ti has drivers iirc
[15:02] <ubuntu_> why to xchat in 9.04
[15:02] <B_166-ER-X> please, i havea problem with a new usb device, it wont connect, here is the dmesg, if you can help me or point me in a direction..would be greatley apprecietad.   http://paste.ubuntu.com/127768/
[15:04] <abe3k> guys, is there a way to have different color depths for different accounts under ubuntu ?
[15:04] <marcus_> hiya anybody know if the updates for 9.04 Alpha 5 are going to break it?
[15:04] <Dante123> erUSUL would you go 32 or 64 bit version?
[15:04] <marcus_> i mean the updates up till now
[15:04] <jrib> !jaunty | marcus_
[15:04] <marcus_> jrib: Thanks
[15:05] <erUSUL> Dante123: i will (i have gone in fact) go with 64 bit... but i'm a user that can deal with the little isuues...
[15:05] <scunizi> Dante123: if this is your first shot at linux in general then 32 bit. 64bit can be frustrating at times
[15:05] <tobywuk> How do you do a referance point in ubuntu eg so that a shortcut to a different directory shows up
[15:05] <tobywuk> like shortcuts in windows
[15:05] <erUSUL> Dante123: with 2GiB is fine to use 32 bit version
[15:05] <scunizi> Dante123: most all programs are 32 bit anyway..
[15:06] <tobywuk> eg if i have  /home/tobywuk/music and i want it to be referanced but not copied in /home/ftp
[15:06] <Dante123> erUSUL and scunizi what are the main issues with running 64 bit?
[15:06] <abe3k> guys, is there a way to have different color depths for different accounts under ubuntu ?
[15:07] <henaaque> hello
[15:07] <henaaque> i'm trying to install kmando, but i receive an error during ./configure
[15:07] <erUSUL> Dante123: no Sun java plugin for firefox (facebook) is the only thing i can recall... flash works well enough for me
[15:07] <qdii> hello
[15:07] <Dante123> scunizi this is not my first shot, I run ubuntu on 4 pc's-  but this is for a kid who is 14 and while not bad on computers in general fairly new to ubuntu/linux
[15:07] <B_166-ER-X> where can i find help on a big ubuntu/USB problem ?
[15:08] <fosco_> here?
[15:08] <scunizi> Dante123: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=368607
[15:08] <Dr_willis_AAO> forums are alwyas good place to look
[15:08] <qdii> I'd like to launch another X server. I am using Compiz. How do I do ? Do you know somewhere I could find information about that ?
[15:08] <B_166-ER-X> please, i havea problem with a new usb device, it wont connect, here is the dmesg, if you can help me or point me in a direction..would be greatley apprecietad.   http://paste.ubuntu.com/127768/   Its a Camera watch, and i cant seem to make it recognized by the pc
[15:08] <Dr_willis_AAO> you want a secone seperate X session on alt-ctrl-F8 you mean B_166-ER-X ?
[15:09] <fosco_> qdii, sudo startx -- :1 should work
[15:09] <scunizi> Dante123: so you've got experience.. but do you run 64 bit on any of those machines..? if not stick with 32 bit otherwise the support issue will grind on you
[15:09] <B_166-ER-X> nop
[15:09] <abe3k> guys, is there a way to have different color depths for different accounts under ubuntu ?
[15:09] <Dr_willis_AAO> abe3k,  ehy do you need to?
[15:09] <StyX_> \server irc.p2p-net.eu:6667
[15:10] <abe3k> Dr_willis_AAO : because I don't want to restart each time I change the color depth
[15:10] <qdii> fosco_: it gives me a log of X server's crash : (WW) fglrx: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:0@1:0:1) found
[15:10] <B_166-ER-X> abe3k,  you could try gnom-color
[15:10] <Dr_willis_AAO> abe3k,  ehy do you need to change them at all?
[15:10] <qdii> a load of them
[15:10] <B_166-ER-X> gnome-color
[15:10] <B_166-ER-X> sry
[15:10] <Dr_willis_AAO> i thought the xrand tools could change them on the fly.. but ive never NEEDED to change the depts
[15:10] <B_166-ER-X> !usb
[15:11] <abe3k> B_166-ER-X : will give it a try thx
[15:12] <vladuz976> latest kernel update to 2.6.27-13 broke everything. I can't boot anymore.  switched back to 2.6.27-11 for now. how can I delete the new kernel?
[15:13] <Cherepok> hi ALL
[15:14] <Aroia> how do u get to HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Wine\
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[15:14] <Cherepok> íó è èäèòå íàõóé
[15:14] <Cherepok> !
[15:14] <Dr_willis_AAO> Aroia, wine has its own regedit clone i think installed
[15:14]  * Gartral1 is back
 : sorry wine regedit
[15:15] <Aroia> mk ty
[15:18] <levi_> ich hasse windows <.<
[15:18] <tony29> can someone tell me what the use of sudo is? can't an app use it while you're logged in as a sudo user?
[15:18] <fearful> tony29, sudo is running a command as root user
[15:18] <fearful> !sudo | tony29
[15:19] <tony29> fearful, yes, but can't an app run as root that's programmed to issue a sudo command without you knowing?
[15:19] <matthew> join #drupalcon
[15:19] <evilbug> yesterday i wanted to switch from xubuntu to ubuntu so i downloaded the alternate i386 ubuntu and on install i always got an error of no kernel found to install twice in a row. i then burned a second cd and checked it for errors and it had none. this time around i got various errors each of the three times i tried installing. next i decided to try the desktop i386 and it wouldn't go past the boot menu saying the cd couldn't be read.
[15:19] <evilbug>  i then went back and reinstalled xubuntu and it worked fine. i'm on an amd athlon xp 2.17gHz, 1gb ram, and allocated a 3gb swap.
[15:19] <bbelt16ag> hi peeps how do i restart my sound??
[15:20] <bbelt16ag> i can't  get mplayer to  play sound on a  video that i know has sound
[15:20] <fearful> tony29, no, if you want to run something as root you have to do it as sudo or gksu from the start, if it uses a superuser privileged then run it as root
[15:20] <mezy_> hey, what is the use of swap data for ubuntu?
[15:20] <fearful> tony29, meaning that if you don't run it as sudo from the start the superuser privilege won't work
[15:20] <sajuuk> hey guys pidgin is terminating when I start it up, what's wrong with it?
[15:20] <evilbug> mezy- in case you don't have enough ram, if ubuntu needs more it uses the swap space.
[15:20] <fearful> sajuuk, run it through the terminal and pastebin the error
[15:20] <fosco_> mezy, is some kind of ram extension
[15:21] <tony29> fearful, and sudo remembers you for what, 15mins? if so, couldn't an app run as root in that time without your input?
[15:21] <sajuuk> fearful: I realised I shouldve done that... lol
[15:21] <mezy> evilbug: oh, can you help me with something?
[15:21] <bbelt16ag> any ideas?
[15:21] <fearful> tony29, if you run an app as root it will be ran as root until you close it
[15:21] <bbelt16ag> seriously whats the /etc/init.d/?
[15:21] <evilbug> mezy- depends, i'm not that big of a linux expert. try me.
[15:21] <bbelt16ag> come one...
[15:21] <fearful> bbelt16ag, its where the startup scripts are
[15:21] <Gartral1> evilbug: why not just get the ubuntu core files?
[15:21] <sajuuk> pidgin error one line: segmentation error
[15:22] <tony29> fearful, yes, it will and leave you logged in as root for 15 minutes, correct?
[15:22] <evilbug> Gartral1- you mean server, yeah?
[15:22] <fearful> tony29, I don't know how long it does actually, but I never run apps as root and leave them running for long periods of time so wouldn't know
[15:22] <Gartral1> evilbug: no, one moment
[15:22] <bbelt16ag> in???
[15:22] <dayo__> ,
[15:22] <bbelt16ag> i didnt see it..
[15:23] <fearful> tony29, I use root only when I absolutely need to
[15:23] <evilbug> Gartral1- i was just thinking of installing the server and then simply installing gnome over it.
[15:23] <sajuuk> fearful: did you see that?
[15:23] <tony29> fearful, but ubuntu asks for root password all the time when updating, doing a make install, etc. it's quite often for me
[15:23] <fearful> sajuuk, yes I don't know what can cause that
[15:23] <red_star_> how to install xmms in 8.10
[15:23] <mezy> evilbug: ok.... uhm. i have ubuntu on a usb, about the 1 gig. its a 2 gig usb, and the other half is formated in ext2. im trying to figure out how to save changes with the ubuntu by using the other half of the usb. is this possible anyway?
[15:24] <tony29> something needs done so we don't have to use root so much just like in vista
[15:24] <bbelt16ag> so where are the startup scripts?
[15:24] <Gartral1> evilbug, that might work, but theres a much easier way, i just gotta find the name of the package
[15:24] <fearful> tony29, yes, when your doing installs its a need but not to run an app such as xchat or pidgin that would run for long periods of times
[15:24] <bbelt16ag> in /etc/init.d/?
[15:24] <fearful> bbelt16ag, /etc/init.d/
[15:24] <sajuuk> fearful: apt-get remove pidgin then install it back on?
[15:24] <Ale67> ciao
[15:24] <bbelt16ag> do you know whats its  called i  saw no arts oss or alsa or sound...
[15:24] <daftykins> mezy you're probably better off pulling the HDDs on a system, then installing *to* the USB key if possible
[15:24] <fearful> sajuuk, purge it to make sure, sudo apt-get purge pidgin
[15:24] <evilbug> mezy- so you're running ubuntu off of the usb.
[15:24] <fearful> bbelt16ag, know what's called?
[15:24] <Aroia> can u play wow on ubuntu?
[15:25] <bbelt16ag> the sound  script...
[15:25] <fearful> Aroia, yes through wine
[15:25] <LordFDisk> yes
[15:25] <fearful> bbelt16ag, pulseaudio
[15:25] <mezy> evilbug: no, i am using on the livevd
[15:25] <bbelt16ag> ok...
[15:25] <Aroia> ok like im trying to use wine but only the background is comming up
[15:25] <Gartral1> evilbug: open a console and type sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[15:25] <LordFDisk> Aroia, I play WoW in wine
[15:25] <Dr_willis_AAO> !appdb | Aroia
[15:25] <tony29> i also don't understand the protection for the core OS. isn't the real need to protect the /home directory? stuff that's not on the install CD already?
[15:26] <evilbug> mezy- ah, yeah. i don't think you can save changes, except for while the livecd is running.
[15:26] <mezy> daftykins: this is not my computer, and i want all the changes i made in ubuntu to be kept
[15:26] <bbelt16ag> not workin
[15:26] <deany> sajuuk, latest pidgin available from getdeb.net
[15:26] <bbelt16ag> [AO_ALSA] alsa-lib: pcm_hw.c:1321:(snd_pcm_hw_open) open /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p failed: Device or resource busy
[15:26] <fearful> tony29, no because if you get access to somethings in the filesystem folder it can leave your computer vulnerable meaning that anyone can have access if its always opened
[15:26] <bbelt16ag> [AO_ALSA] alsa-lib: pcm_dmix.c:1008:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave
[15:26] <daftykins> yes i understand, you want a persistent live key
[15:26] <b4chip> hi there, let';s consider the following scenarioa I have two PC and a wireless router. How do i will configure one of them (the one with ubuntu) in order to have access on it from the other one(from windows) using ssh and a GUI (X11 i think)
[15:26] <evilbug> Gartral1- i know that, i just don't want to have any xfce remnants and it's a pain to get rid of every little xfce file manually.
[15:27] <bbelt16ag> shoot i will just reboot..
[15:27] <evilbug> Gartral1- i just can't understand why ubuntu has turned on me like this :(
[15:27] <sajuuk> lets see what happens from the purge
[15:27] <fearful> sajuuk, purge means that it will completely remove it
[15:27] <mezy> evilbug: isn't there a set?
[15:27] <Dr_willis_AAO> Purge will NOT remove user settings in  /home however
[15:27] <daftykins> b4chip, sounds easy, install openssh-server and enable remote desktop, then install a VNC viewer and putty on the windows box and connect to a static IP set on the Linux box
[15:27] <mezy> evilbug: isn't there a setup*?
[15:27] <daftykins> job done
[15:28] <sajuuk> fearful: oh i thought remove did that :\
[15:28] <rbil> OK, here's a real strange problem ... using Intrepid ... Nautilus in tree view hangs ... switch user and it works fine. What can be in the first user's home directory causing this prob?
[15:28] <Gartral1> evilbug: im running a converted kubuntu box, if you uninstall the kde and kubuntu packages, it won't leave anything behind
[15:28] <fearful> evilbug, there is a tutorial on how to, try "pure gnome" on google
[15:28] <evilbug> mezy- aside from what i've already told you, i don't know more. sorry.
[15:28] <fearful> Dr_willis_AAO, sajuuk that is true configs in /home will be untouched
[15:28] <mezy> evilbug: thanks
[15:28] <Aroia> ty for the help
[15:29] <b4chip> daftykins: many thx...where can i find a tutorial which wikll guide me to do that?
[15:29] <fearful> evilbug, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome
[15:29] <tony29> fearful, and if you run a malicious app as yourself, it can destroy your files, right? i just never got the need to protect the core files
[15:29] <Dante123> scunizi, yeah I will have him go 32 bit so there is no umbilical cord and I am dealing with his probs all the time
[15:29] <fearful> tony29, yes if you run it as root, but why would you ever want to do that?
[15:29] <daftykins> no idea i'm afraid b4chip but it's all very easy
[15:30] <evilbug> fearful- thank you!
[15:30] <tony29> fearful, no, i mean when i'm not running as root. as myself
[15:30] <sajuuk> i reinstalled pidgin, its still acting weird
[15:30] <rbil> I challenge an expert here to offer a solution to this weird problem :-)
[15:30] <daftykins> sajuuk, delete your settings in your /home folder
[15:30] <fearful> tony29, if you run it as yourself and the file needs to modify something that needs superuser it won't
[15:30] <sajuuk> daftykins: how?
[15:31] <pierre_> hello
[15:31] <evilbug> Gartral1- thanks for your help. i might just install the server and take it from there just because i want to familiarize myself with the commands and console work.
[15:31] <Aroia> can someone give me a link to show me how to make wow run on wine?
[15:31] <daftykins> sajuuk, there must be a folder called something like /pidgin in your /home, just delete it - it'll be a hidden folder of course
[15:31] <pierre_> anyone can help me with an evolution issue ?
[15:31] <tony29> fearful, but *my* own files won't need sudo to access or delete
[15:31] <daftykins> pretty sure i've run pidgin once but i don't see a .pidgin in my /home
[15:32] <Gartral1> Aroia: what problems are you having, it should just work
[15:32] <fearful> tony29, your own file will if it needs to access a superuser area thats my point
[15:32] <Aroia> when it opens up all i can see is the back ground moving and i cant login
[15:32] <sajuuk> i dont see pidgin in my home
[15:32] <Aroia> nothing is popping up just the dragon at the start
[15:32] <anil_> hi...have problem installing jhbuild.some help??
[15:32] <fearful> tony29, anything will need superuser to access thats what I'm getting to if you don't run it as superuser it won't be able to
[15:32] <LordFDisk> Aroia,  open the installer file with the wine app. it will install like normal
[15:33] <anil_> ^^
[15:33] <Gartral1> Aroia: do you have compiz running?
[15:33] <pierre_> when i try to connect to the pop server i get an error message saying : -err auth must give USER command
[15:33] <Aroia> negative
[15:33] <tony29> fearful, so an app will have to have superuser priveles to delete anything in my /home folder?
[15:34] <fearful> tony29, no not in your /home only in the filesystem
[15:34] <fearful> tony29, to protect your /home encrypt it
[15:34] <Gartral1> Aroia: type "/join #winehq" lets continue this there
[15:35] <JUAN_> Hola
[15:35] <tony29> fearful, ok, that's my point. my /home folder is my important info. i just never got the need to protect the files that are already on the OS cd anyway
[15:35] <fearful> sajuuk, /home/user/.purple
[15:35] <LinuxUser_> Gartral1: compiz aint that program you can confige your animations and stuff like that ?
[15:35] <fearful> tony29, well I explained why theres a need to for OS files :) but yea you can protect /home through encryption.
[15:35] <fearful> LinuxUser_, correct.
[15:35] <pierre_> anyone ??
[15:35] <LinuxUser_> Gartral1: Alright .. can you remember then what it is youy need to write in Terminal to get it ?
[15:36] <anil_> hello,^^^
[15:36] <forest> Anyone know a way to password protect a printer, so that a password is asked for before printing?
[15:36] <tony29> fearful, when gnome has the right-click, encrypt options, is that safe? i mean, if i upgrade, it shouldn't give me problems re-accessing them should it?
[15:36] <rio> hi, after upgrading to intrepid my xserver keeps failing (ati radeon 9800)
[15:36] <Gartral1> i dont use compiz, as it screws with wine too much, and i have it installed, but mostly off
[15:36] <|Nihil|> Is it possible to configure the first text-mode virtual terminal to automatically log in as root upon bootup? (This is for a team of virtual machines with no external network access, so security isn't an issue, and manually typing the same username/pass into all twelve of them each time I boot em is a pain)
[15:36] <sajuuk> fearful: wait its .purple?
[15:36] <arianna> hi guys!
[15:36] <sajuuk> ok
[15:36] <fearful> tony29, I'm actually not 100% sure but it shouldn't because its gnome's encryption
[15:37] <fearful> sajuuk, yes in your /home
[15:37] <rbil> OK, here's a real strange problem ... using Intrepid ... Nautilus in tree view hangs ... switch user and it works fine. What can be in the first user's home directory causing this prob?
[15:37] <sajuuk> fearful: so sudo rm .purple
[15:37] <fearful> sajuuk, sudo rm /home/user/.purple
[15:37] <daftykins> sajuuk, "rm -r ~/.purple"
[15:37] <daftykins> he doesn't need sudo to remove something from his user dir
[15:37] <daftykins> that's a tad dangerous
[15:38] <fearful> daftykins, sajuuk yea that is true :P
[15:38] <LinuxUser_> fearful:  you remember then what it is youy need to write in Terminal to get it ?
[15:38] <sajuuk> ok done
[15:38] <JUAN_> Alguien en español?
[15:38] <sajuuk> lets load up pidgin again
[15:38] <LordFDisk> tony29,  Nothing is truly safe... it you want that ... you going to have to make your own algorithm ... ;)
[15:38] <anil_> #disconnect
[15:39] <caio_> how can i restore my $PATH ?
[15:39] <B_166-ER-X> what is the command to know how was assigned a usb drive ? i want to know wich /dev/usb*
[15:39] <sajuuk> oh wow, pidgin just died and splurged shit
[15:39] <fearful> LinuxUser_, sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[15:39] <daftykins> lol you had it running whilst you deleted the config - not too great an idea
[15:39] <fearful> LinuxUser_, you already have it you just need the settings manager.
[15:39] <LinuxUser_> fearful:  alright, thanks !
[15:39] <istvan_> I Just downloaded google earth but it opens a window, then crashes on me... hy?
[15:39] <daftykins> i recommend the package "simple-ccsm" for simple compiz settings
[15:39] <fearful> !spanish JUAN_
[15:40] <fearful> !spanish | JUAN_
[15:40] <sajuuk> ok I will purge pidgin as well
[15:40] <JUAN_> K dices?
[15:40] <sajuuk> then reinstall pidgin?
[15:40] <dennda> I need a CLI tool (usable in scripts) that allows *easy* sending of files via FTP. Suggestions?
[15:40] <deany> sajuuk, what version
[15:40] <fearful> JUAN_, aqui se habla ingles, tienes que ir al canal de espanol para ayuda en espanol.
[15:40] <daftykins> sajuuk, should be fine as long as your config has gone, assuming that's what's causing whatever is wrong with it for you
[15:40] <JUAN_> Ok
[15:40] <sajuuk> it was a segmentation fault
[15:40] <Myrtti> dennda: "ftp"
[15:41] <deany> sajuuk, load synaptic and remove everything pidgin and libpurple, grab latest from getdeb.net
[15:41] <JUAN_> dakitu?
[15:41] <erUSUL> dennda: ltftp
[15:41] <fearful> deany, purge works
[15:41] <dennda> Myrtti: that's not the definition of *easy*
[15:41] <LinuxUser_> fearful:  What? it says i already have it, but i cant find it in Accessories ?
[15:41] <sajuuk> deany: why is that? isn't the apt stuff good?
[15:41] <deany> sajuuk, if you like old yeah
[15:41] <fearful> LinuxUser_, it's not under accessories, System > Preferences > CompizConfig...
[15:41] <erUSUL> dennda: sorry is lftp
[15:41] <sajuuk> i rather the old :)
[15:42] <Dr_willis_AAO> !ccsm
[15:42] <LinuxUser_> fearful:  Ohh .. of course .. well thanks man, isee it now, thank you !
[15:42] <fearful> LinuxUser_, your welcome.
[15:42] <deany> 2.5.2 in repo,  2.5.5 latest
[15:42] <abe3k> B_166-ER-X : it turned out that the application you specified wasn't for changing color depths
[15:42] <fearful> deany, I had problems with 2.5.5
[15:42] <deany> i think they should really maintain common apps like that a little more
[15:43] <jdwilm> 'df -h' is returning a partition to be at 100% full despite Used/Avail ratio being less than 100%.  Nautilus also shows 0 bytes free space in the path.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/127790/  Anyone know what's happening here?
[15:43] <abe3k> guys, is there anyway of having different color depths for different accounts under ubuntu ?
[15:43] <deany> fearful, sajuuk well works for me
[15:43] <B_166-ER-X> ok
[15:43] <Twigathy> jdwilm: space reserved for root
[15:43] <deany> sajuuk, if all else fails, compile it yourself
[15:43] <Twigathy> jdwilm: you need to fiddle with tune2fs
[15:43] <sajuuk> deany: fair enough
[15:44] <jdwilm> Twigathy: thanks i'll check that out
[15:44] <Twigathy> jdwilm: don't forget to unmount first! :)
[15:44] <sajuuk> wow  it doesnt like that
[15:45] <sajuuk> sounds like I should do it in 12 hours, when I have had sleep
[15:45] <deany> grab the debs from getdeb
[15:45] <dennda> erUSUL: Do you happen to know the command to copy a local file $myfile to some remote host (with specifying username / pass) by heart?
[15:45] <deany> if that dont work (why any wont work on your system is anyones guess) then compile it
[15:45] <Aroia> what programs do u need to run with wine?
[15:45] <sajuuk> i think its a bit more than pidgin, somethings a bit wrong wit h other parts of my system
[15:46] <deany> memory check ??
[15:46] <daftykins> dennda, that's what man pages are for
[15:46] <wwig> hi to everyone, I installed the proprietary drivers of my ATi but with desktop effects on videos don't work fine, they blink. Someone know how to do?
[15:46] <deany> dennda, ssh?
[15:46] <dennda> No, ftp.
[15:46] <abe3k> guys, is there anyway of having different color depths for different accounts under ubuntu ?
[15:46] <deany> wwig,  use X11 as driver not Xv
[15:46] <r33tfux0r> Greetings!  I'm working with a fairly fresh install of 8.10.  My monitor resolutions have somehow gotten blown out.  I  tried checking the xorg.conf no type of reconfiguration is working for me right now.  I keep reading that the dpkg-reconfigure for wont fix it.  Any ideas?
[15:47] <deany> dennda, man ftp
[15:47] <daftykins> how do you mean "blown out" r33tfux0r ?
[15:47] <wwig> how can I switch to this?
[15:47] <paulSterio> anyone have a really awesome theme for ubuntu
[15:47] <r33tfux0r> its not showing the correct resolutions and GDM is totally out of sync
[15:47] <dennda> deany: You did not read my introductory question, did you?
[15:47] <deany> when ive had my coffee i can give you the command , read the man first
[15:48] <rio> hi, after upgrading to intrepid my xserver keeps failing (ati radeon 9800)
[15:48] <daftykins> wrong phase over DVI r33tfux0r ?
[15:48] <deany> rio, recovery mode, choose fix X
[15:48] <daftykins> phase + pixel clock even
[15:48] <rio> deany: doesnt help
[15:48] <wwig> thanks r33tfux0r
[15:48] <wwig> so how should I do?
[15:49] <deany> rio, upgrading aint worth the headaches :)
[15:49] <deany> wwig, X11 is dog slow btw.
[15:49] <fearful> deany, agreed, just clean install :p
[15:49] <rio> deany: thanks, nice help.
[15:49] <fearful> rio, he's right upgrading breaks stuff
[15:49] <fearful> rio, sometimes*
[15:49] <deany> they say ubunti has a clean upgrade process.. i beg to differ.
[15:49] <rio> so im trying to fix it
[15:49] <wwig> so better keep Xv and switch everytimes to effect>noeffect?
[15:50] <deany> wwig, if I could have smooth video playback i`d use compiz..  well i dont use compiz
[15:50] <rio> do you tell me i should yours software thats years old just because upgrading might break things?
[15:50] <deany> video playback is useless using X11 , for me.
[15:50] <rio> s/yours/use/
[15:50] <LinuxUser_> Hi .. are there someone who knows how to install Cairo dock on Linux Ubuntu 8.10 :) ?
[15:50] <piloten1975> Where shall I put my applications in ubuntu?... I downloaded Zend Studio in a tar.gz package.
[15:51] <|Nihil|>  Is it possible to configure the first text-mode virtual terminal to automatically log in as root upon bootup? (This is for a team of virtual machines with no external network access, so security isn't an issue, and manually typing the same username/pass into all twelve of them each time I boot em is a pain)
[15:51] <helper> anyone know in mikrotik
[15:51] <helper> ?
[15:51] <Myrtti> LinuxUser_: sudo aptitude install cairo-dock
[15:51] <deany> rio,  no i mean fresh install always the way i go...personally
[15:51] <kristian_> for some reason when i open firefox now it goes over the panel at the top & bottom. how can i make it go back to just opening inbetween the panels? i have not changed any settings. i think it happened after update/upgrade. if i then press F11, it will maximize to full size, it doesn't open in fullsize just something inbetween full screen and just inbetween panel, and then i click F11 it will go back to how it used to be. any thoughts?
[15:51] <abe3k> guys, is there anyway of having different color depths for different accounts under ubuntu ?
[15:51] <LinuxUser_> Myrtti:  Do you have it yourself :) ?
[15:51] <Myrtti> LinuxUser_: yes
[15:52] <wwig> maybe I've found a compiz switch
[15:52] <LinuxUser_> Myrtti:  And you wrote that to get it ? and you have ubuntu 8.10 or.. ?
[15:52] <wwig> would that help?
[15:52] <daftykins> kristian_, why not just alt+click+drag move it and resize it, then immediately close, then reopen and see if it's set right?
[15:52] <Myrtti> LinuxUser_: yes, and yes
[15:52] <deany> wwig,  compiz icon would work,..
[15:52] <LinuxUser_> Myrtti:  Alright its just cause i have so much trouble with it .. but thanks ill try
[15:53] <r33tfux0r> no im utilizing VGA
[15:53] <Wizzup> Quick question... I was wondering where I could get the default Ubuntu theme? I'd like my gnome to have the Ubuntu theme. Google hasn't given me much good results
[15:53] <deany> wwig, really shouldnt need to disable it to play videos tho.. needs addressing once and for all.. not like its a new problem.
[15:53] <daftykins> press the auto button on your display then r33tfux0r ?
[15:53] <daftykins> new driver will make the graphics output change
[15:53] <piloten1975> Where shall I put my applications in ubuntu?... I downloaded Zend Studio in a tar.gz package.
[15:53] <r33tfux0r> the resolution is incorrect in the system
[15:53] <rio> so using the failsafe config works for the graphics part, but keyboard doesnt work :(
[15:54] <wwig> ok, how please?
[15:54] <deany> wwig, i dont know, i was just saying....its a problem that needs fixing
[15:55] <deany> compiz gets old after a day or 2 tho :)
[15:55] <wwig> ah ok, sorry...my english sometimes isn't fine
[15:56] <piloten1975> Where shall I put my applications in ubuntu?... I downloaded Zend Studio in a tar.gz package.   is opt the correct one?
[15:59] <kristian_> daftykins : i want it too be fullscreen as in full screen between the panels, so i maximize it and close it, and then when i open it again, same thing happens.
[15:59] <jaipal99> Enter text here...hi
[15:59] <jaipal99> hello
[16:00] <jaipal99> hello
[16:00] <Myrtti> hellues: jaipal99
[16:00] <Boohbah_> !hi | jaipal99
[16:01] <Myrtti> doh.
[16:01] <Myrtti> hellues: sorry :-D
[16:01] <wesouler> hi all
[16:01] <Boohbah_> !hi | wesouler
[16:01] <chumii> hi i'm using fluxbox and xcompmgr. when i start screenlets, there is a black square around them, here is a screenie http://img299.imageshack.us/my.php?image=72882366.png ..anyone has an idea why?
[16:02] <turtle_> why banning?
[16:02] <jaipal99> hello
[16:02] <Boohbah_> banhammer
[16:02] <Myrtti> and moving on
[16:03] <jaipal99> als mayrrita
[16:03] <jaipal99> hello
[16:03] <turtle_> high
[16:04] <daftykins> that looks nice chumii, apart from the black boxes
[16:04] <ganesh> how can i install vuze 4 on ubuntu?
[16:04] <MIrrorIMage> hi all
[16:04] <jaipal99> hello
[16:04] <turtle_> ganesh, u cant
[16:04] <daftykins> are you running a proper graphics driver chumii ? might be that
[16:04] <evilbug> fearful: i just ran pure gnome.
[16:04] <jaipal99> yes
[16:04] <ganesh> turtle_: why?
[16:04] <fearful> evilbug, how was it?
[16:05] <turtle_> ganesh, i said so
[16:05] <evilbug> fearful: it's still running. i shut down x and i'm in shell now.
[16:05] <asdasd> where can i find ubuntu driver for my printer ?
[16:05] <ganesh> turtle_: what is the reason?
[16:05] <fearful> evilbug, that should have removed all xfce tho, I don't know any other way it has done the trick for me
[16:06] <arvind_khadri> asdasd, just plugin the printer it works...
[16:06] <arvind_khadri> !printer | asdasd
[16:06] <turtle_> ganesh, vuze and ubuntu don't mix
[16:06] <evilbug> fearful: i had some stubborn xfce files that didn't want to leave but nothing auto-remove wouldn't fix.
[16:06] <asdasd> it's not for me, it's for my friend
[16:06] <daftykins> http://localhost:631 in firefox for CUPS
[16:06] <evilbug> fearful: and so far the install looks promising.
[16:06] <asdasd> it has hp deskjet 3520
[16:06] <turtle_> ganesh, look for a vuze for linux
[16:07] <evilbug> fearful: actually it just finished. i'll reboot.
[16:07] <lastelement0> hey all i'm currently running jaunty and trying to install libdvdcss however when i do i get the error that there is no installation candidate. what should i do/
[16:07] <lyhana8> hi, does anyone use a Samsung YP-S2 player here ?
[16:07] <fearful> evilbug, alright
[16:07] <arvind_khadri> tonyy,  just plugin it would work... which ubuntu ?
[16:07] <tonyy> edubuntu
[16:08] <turtle_> ganesh, http://www.myscienceisbetter.info/2008/08/install-vuze-on-ubuntu-64bit.html
[16:08] <ganesh>  turtle_: ok..
[16:09] <arvind_khadri> tonyy, i mean which version of it?
[16:09] <lastelement0> hey all i'm currently running jaunty and trying to install libdvdcss however when i do i get the error that there is no installation candidate. what should i do
[16:09] <arvind_khadri> !jaunty | lastelement0
[16:10] <bazhang> lastelement0, #ubuntu+1 for that
[16:10] <arvind_khadri> bazhang, jinx :P
[16:10] <bazhang> arvind_khadri, hi :)
[16:10] <arvind_khadri> bazhang, hiii :)
[16:10] <tonyy> arvind_khadri 8.04 i guess
[16:11] <Iwanas> hi cant boot ubuntu from cd got error "smp motherboard not found"
[16:11] <Iwanas> anyway to get it booted?
[16:11] <eseven73> is there a way to find out if im dropping a lot of packets or something? Because when i connect to my laptop with VNC it keeps disconnecting the network every few seconds, but this does NOT happend with Remote Desktop or Freenx, only VNC
[16:11] <arvind_khadri> tonyy, then plug it in and check first
[16:12] <LjL> eseven73: uh, "ifconfig" will tell you if you're dropping ethernet level packets
[16:12] <eseven73> ok ty LjL
[16:12] <LjL> eseven73: don't know about IP packets
[16:12] <daftykins> what LjL  just said ^^ shows errors and dropped packets
[16:12] <tonyy> arvind_khadri: look my problem brotha, he has lost his CD driver, and now he wanna to download the ubuntu driver for him
[16:13] <tonyy> (he is not connected on internet)
[16:13] <tonyy> the problem is i dont know where i can find a driver for it.
[16:13] <arvind_khadri> eseven73, iptraf is usefult for monitoring packets
[16:13] <eseven73> ljl what if i am dropping packets, do i just raise the MTU more than 1500?
[16:13] <iluvcoke> how to delete kernel??
[16:13] <LjL> eseven73: i honestly have no idea
[16:13] <daftykins> eseven73, changing the MTU should not be necessary
[16:13] <eseven73> arvind_khadri: I forgot bout iptraf thanks :)
[16:14] <evilbug> fearful: i'm up and running.
[16:14] <LjL> iluvcoke: why would you do that?
[16:14] <eseven73> ok
[16:14] <arvind_khadri> tonyy, you dont need that windows driver cd boss, linux is plug and play
[16:14] <arvind_khadri> eseven73, np :)
[16:14] <ortsvorsteher> iluvcoke: you mean to uninstall an old kernel which you dont need anymore?
[16:14] <tonyy> arvind_khadri: so, there isn't driver for ubuntu ?
[16:14] <iluvcoke> erm cause after update, at the boot menu there alot
[16:14] <Stinky> tonyy:  what device is the driver for?
[16:14] <LjL> eseven73: besides i really guess it depends on *why* you're dropping packets. you say it only affects VNC, so i have trouble thinking it's a network interface problem
[16:15] <ortsvorsteher> iluvcoke: uninstall old kernel with synaptic
[16:15] <fearful> evilbug, glad it worked man!
[16:15] <LjL> iluvcoke: ok, then you can remove the old ones. do "dpkg -l | grep linux" to see what you have installed
[16:15] <daftykins> "sudo apt-get remove linux-image-old-version-number-generic" for example
[16:15] <iluvcoke> thanks
[16:15] <LjL> iluvcoke: then you can do "sudo apt-get remove packagename" to remove them. but make SURE you don't remove the one you're using!
[16:15] <arvind_khadri> tonyy, there are drivers which are coded into the kernel, so if you plug a device the kernel picks it up unlike winblows where you need 3rd party drivers
[16:15] <eseven73> LjL i think it's because im tunneling VNC through SSH, I'll try without the tunnel, one moment..
[16:15]  * arvind_khadri  RMS hates Coca-Cola
[16:18] <Iwanas> hi, cant boot any linux cd got error "smp motherboard not found" any ideas how to solve this?
[16:18] <lenswipe> hey everyone
[16:18] <lenswipe> can someone tell me the command to make a mysql database?
[16:19] <evilbug> fearful: it's been a while since i've used gnome :D
[16:19] <eseven73> LjL ok I think that was the prob, it didnt like tunneling, seems to be ok with normal VNC'ing w/out the tunnel, but Im kind of paranoid to run VNC without encryption :(
[16:19] <fearful> evilbug, :p i only use gnome
[16:19] <wangjinqu> hi guys  anybody who is using the xfce desktop?
[16:19] <LjL> lenswipe: mysqladmin create dbname
[16:20] <ortsvorsteher> !anybody | wangjinqu
[16:20] <wangjinqu> sorry
[16:21] <BK-Black> Gente ,,, tengo un probrema con virtual Box en linuxmint
[16:21] <roshan08> how to mirror ubuntu repo without apt-mirror
[16:21] <fearful> !spanish | BK-Black
[16:21] <bazhang> BK-Black, linuxmint is not supported here
[16:21] <LjL> eseven73: "x11vnc" claims it has built-in encryption
[16:21] <cros13> I've got a bit of an issue with my if there are any pulseaudio people about... I've lost all sound... the module is loaded, mixer looks ok. anyone have any ideas for debugging this?
[16:21] <BK-Black> ok
[16:21] <eseven73> LJL ah that's what im using too, ok ty
[16:22] <eseven73> :)
[16:22] <sushil> hi  everyone.  i want to setup a ubuntu repository in my college's server which has preinstalled SUSE. I googled but could not find exactly how to do it. Can someone help?
[16:22] <wangjinqu> i just went a problem that when my ubuntu boot the init messages had a one  " mount local filesystem failed"
[16:22] <tphilosopher> Hey guys. Do any of you know of a PCI wireless card that is well supported in Linux?
[16:22] <bazhang> tphilosopher, check the hcl
[16:22] <wangjinqu> and  i can find nothing in the log
[16:22] <wangjinqu> file
[16:22] <bazhang> !hcl | tphilosopher
[16:22] <oCean_> roshan08: why not apt-mirror? That is the way to go
[16:22] <tphilosopher> bazhang: Thank you very much.
[16:23] <wangjinqu> anybody  know how to solve this problem
[16:23] <ortsvorsteher> !enter | wangjinqu
[16:23] <LjL> eseven73: the option should be "-ssl" or "-stunnel", check the man
[16:23] <roshan08> oCean_, the server on which i want to download has a different linux distro installed
[16:23] <wangjinqu> hehe  i will
[16:23] <eseven73> ok ty ljl
[16:24] <wangjinqu> but do you know how to solve that problem  i have tried the goole and baidu    but nothing useful found
[16:25] <ortsvorsteher> wangjinqu: which filesystem doesnt mount? can you mount it by hand after boot?
[16:25] <daftykins> wangjinqu, just one hard disk?
[16:25] <wangjinqu> yes
[16:25] <asswss> 123
[16:25] <wangjinqu> and after boot  everything is just ok
[16:26] <oCean_> roshan08: one without 'apt' system? I *think* that is not supported.
[16:26] <daftykins> oh so it can boot despite the message?
[16:26] <roshan08> oCean_, the server on which i want to download has a different linux distro installed
[16:26] <sheri_rao> i want to download xubutnu 8.04.2 but have not found it mirrow on on torrent
[16:26] <wangjinqu> yes
[16:26] <evilbug> fearful: thanks for the help. time for some tweaking.
[16:26] <roshan08> oCean_, yeah it doesnot have apt
[16:26] <wangjinqu> but that warning message is boring
[16:26] <fearful> evilbug, your welcome
[16:27] <roshan08> oCean_, i found out something called anonftpsync
[16:27] <LjL> roshan08: how about just mirroring the website using wget?
[16:27] <mrxgerman> Hi at all
[16:27] <matrixblue> hey all
[16:27] <roshan08> LjL, does wget downloads entire direcoried
[16:27] <oCean_> roshan08: wget would be my suggestion too.
[16:27] <roshan08> LjL, directories*
[16:27] <LjL> roshan08: if you give it the right options (such as --mirror), yes, of course
[16:28] <roshan08> LjL, ok
[16:28] <oCean_> roshan08: however, apt-mirror takes care of repository consistency while mirroring. This may be important or not depending on your needs
[16:28] <sheri_rao> any idea about 8.04.2
[16:28] <iluvcoke> why cant i download codec for 3gp
[16:28] <LjL> roshan08: you do realize that downloading the entire ubuntu repositories will be huge?
[16:28] <roshan08> LjL, oCean_ isnt there rsync kind of thing
[16:28] <ortsvorsteher> wangjinqu: may you ran a fsck and look if there is anything not good?
[16:28] <LjL> roshan08: no idea about rsync
[16:28] <wangjinqu> eh  i will have a try  thank you
[16:29] <oCean_> roshan08: wget is exactly what you want.
[16:29] <mrxgerman> i have the problem ich have a shell script and every time when i want so start ist this error come :./server.sh: 96: [[: not found
[16:29] <roshan08> LjL, give me name of any mirror
[16:29] <ortsvorsteher> :)
[16:29] <LjL> roshan08: http://archive.ubuntu.com
[16:29] <LjL> roshan08: you may probably want to use the mirror closest to your country, though
[16:29] <crdlb> sheri_rao: hmm, maybe there wasn't an xubuntu 8.04.2 image made, I see 8.04.1 though
[16:30] <roshan08> LjL, ya
[16:30] <sheri_rao> crdlb, http://ubuntube.net/blog/ubuntu-8042-lts-released/
[16:30] <roshan08> LjL, i am in india
[16:30] <LjL> roshan08: like http://in.archive.ubuntu.com
[16:30] <deany> !compiz
[16:30] <roshan08> LjL, cool
[16:30] <crdlb> sheri_rao: that's ubuntu not xubuntu
[16:31] <crdlb> sheri_rao: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/59119
[16:31] <crdlb> sheri_rao: if you get 8.04.1 and just update, you'll have everything
[16:31] <turtle_> Complaint: open office and MS Office do not convert seamlessly
[16:31] <crdlb> there just might be a lot of updates
[16:32] <sheri_rao> crdlb, https://wiki.kubuntu.org/HardyReleaseSchedule it is in sechdual and it says already released on 23 jan 2009
[16:32] <LjL> roshan08: you're looking at about a 25Gb download.
[16:32] <roshan08> LjL, ok
[16:32] <crdlb> sheri_rao: that's ubuntu, not xubuntu or kubuntu
[16:32] <gladiator> hi
[16:32] <gladiator> i just installed ubuntu
[16:33] <gladiator> and i cant use apt-get
[16:33] <crdlb> sheri_rao: for some reason they have not (yet?) released 8.04.2 images of anything other than ubuntu
[16:33] <ortsvorsteher> !enter | gladiator
[16:33] <gladiator> am i missing something?
[16:33] <LjL> gladiator: what happens when you try?
[16:33] <ortsvorsteher> gladiator: check your settings in /etc/apt/sources.list
[16:33] <daftykins> gladiator, what do you mean you can't use it?
[16:33] <gladiator> ubottu: ok will keep that in mind.
[16:34] <roshan08> LjL, rsync works hurray
[16:34] <ortsvorsteher> gladiator: did you try sudo apt-get ?
[16:34] <gladiator> LjL: i am unable to find any packages. apt-get says package not found and apt-cache search does not turn up with any results
[16:35] <roshan08> LjL,  rsync in.archive.ubuntu.com::ubuntu   this is the way to do
[16:35] <defrysk> gladiator, sudo apt-get update ?
[16:35] <LjL> gladiator: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[16:35] <oCean_> gladiator: before searching/getting do a "sudo apt-get update"
[16:35] <gladiator> defrysk: thats updating packages. i think that will fix it
[16:35] <gladiator> thanks
[16:35] <sheri_rao> crdlb, i think i better go with 8.04.1 xubuntu
[16:36] <J2daosh> ok, i accidently deleted knetworkmanager and now i dont have wireless
[16:36] <defrysk> gladiator, pastebin your sources.list aniway
[16:36] <gladiator> one more question. i have nvidia graphics card. it is telling me to install the nvidia restricted driver. but nothing happens
[16:36] <J2daosh> how can i get wireless back on my ubuntu laptop so i can apt-get network manager again?
[16:36] <rbil> A VERY weird prob with nautilus ... left pane tree view hangs, locks up Nautilus ... however run Nautilus with a different user account and works fine
[16:36] <defrysk> gladiator, first update then try again
[16:36] <LjL> roshan08: what, exactly - something like rsync -a in.archive.ubuntu.com::ubuntu ./ ?
[16:37] <gladiator> defrysk: will do that as soon as i install vim :)
[16:37] <roshan08> LjL, ya
[16:37] <defrysk> gladiator, kk :)
[16:37] <J2daosh> anyone know hot to get wireless back if you apt-get remove knetworkmanager?
[16:37] <roshan08> LjL,  rsync -av in.archive.ubuntu.com::ubuntu   ./
[16:37] <LjL> roshan08: even better would be something allowing you to do load balancing between servers, but i can't think of anything
[16:37] <emil> hi
[16:38] <matrixblue> try reinstalling knetworkmanager
[16:38] <|Den|> hi all
[16:38] <emil> how to use NX Free with keys instead logging in?
[16:38] <LjL> J2daosh: have you removed network-manager too?
[16:38] <J2daosh> i fcant without wireless
[16:38] <J2daosh> yes LjL
[16:38] <roshan08> LjL, ya i cant do anything
[16:38] <LjL> J2daosh: are you using WEP?
[16:38] <matrixblue> sudo apt-get install knetworkmanager
[16:38] <Bentleyx> hi all, i had an ubuntu server with software raid1.  The motherboard died.  I took one of the raid drives and connected it to another ubuntu pc via a usb adapter.  I was hoping i'd be able to read the contents, but can't.  Any idea what i need to do to read it?
[16:38] <cosf> chanserv
[16:38] <J2daosh> yes
[16:39] <sogod> hai
[16:39] <J2daosh> but my neighbor isn't
[16:39] <LjL> J2daosh: do you know the name of your wireless interface? (like ra0, or wlan0)
[16:39] <J2daosh> yeah wlan0 (or mon0 if airsnort running)
[16:39] <hellues> wlan0
[16:39] <LjL> J2daosh: edit /etc/network/interfaces (sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces
[16:39] <gladiator> how big is the package update? and why dont they send it with *something* so people dont get stuck?
[16:40] <ensay> are app-armor required to get an ubuntu distro working? is it part of the selinux? am trying to remove packages that not needed from a livecd install
[16:40] <LjL> J2daosh: have an entry like the one i'm about to pastebin
[16:40] <J2daosh> aight
[16:40] <thespottedelf> any ideas on how to stream video to front row from ubuntu?
[16:40] <matrixblue> anyone in here Alpha testing Jaunty
[16:40] <oCean_> matrixblue: #ubuntu+1
[16:40] <defrysk> matrixblue, /j #ubuntu+1
[16:41] <oCean_> gladiator: what?
[16:41] <LjL> J2daosh: http://paste.ubuntu.com/127813/
[16:41] <ensay> how about avahi? is it essential for ubuntu operations?
[16:41] <mrxgerman> i need help
[16:41] <LjL> J2daosh: make sure there's no other entry about wlan0 (if there is, comment it out), then save, then type "sudo ifup wlan0", and then try "ping www.google.com" to see if it's working
[16:41] <mrxgerman> i have a problem with shellscript
[16:42] <oCean_> gladiator: apt-get update is *not* updating your packages. It will only resync package index files from their sources (as specified in /etc/apt/sources.list)
[16:42] <ortsvorsteher> !details | mrxgerman
[16:43] <ensay> bluez* packages are for bluetooth?
[16:43] <LjL> ensay: yes
[16:43] <defrysk> yes
[16:43] <mrxgerman> when i start my startscript ./server.sh start i get en error server.sh: 97: [[: not found. at this place in the script is esac
[16:43] <gladiator> oCean_: i know. i just meant that it could come with an index to start with so people dont get stuck at the very first step. but i am sure they must have a reason
[16:43] <J2daosh> error for wireless request "SET MODE" set failed on device wlan0; device or resource is busy
[16:43] <ensay> LjL: i think i can remove those -- am cutting back on packages that are not essential to operating ubuntu
[16:43] <J2daosh> siocaddrt no such process, failed to bring up wlan0
[16:43] <LjL> J2daosh: ps aux | grep etwork
[16:44] <LjL> J2daosh: does it show anything?
[16:44] <J2daosh> only the grep showsup
[16:44] <tehfalcon> quit
[16:44] <LjL> ensay: you probably can. just ensure they won't remove too many other packages when you do the apt-get remove
[16:44] <LjL> J2daosh: ok, try "sudo ifdown wlan0; sudo ifup wlan0"
[16:45] <J2daosh> ifdown wlan0 = interface wlan0 not configured
[16:45] <LjL> mrxgerman: what do you have as the first line in the script?
[16:45] <ensay> LjL  how about that  apparmor ? is that essential as part of security ?
[16:45] <LjL> ensay: well, it wasn't there in previous ubuntu versions, so probably not
[16:45] <ensay> LjL okay thanks.
[16:45] <defrysk> ensay, how much space has your / ?
[16:45] <Dr_willis_AAO> it might be better to google for 'trimmin g down ubuntu install' or somthing :)
[16:46] <silv3r_m00n> hi there
[16:46] <ensay> defrysk-> am remastering my livecd..
[16:46] <silv3r_m00n> I am looking for ubuntu 8.04.2 DVD
[16:46] <gladiator> defrysk: http://pastebin.com/d57fff00e
[16:46] <ortsvorsteher> !pm | mrxgerman
[16:46] <silv3r_m00n> can someone gimme a link
[16:46] <defrysk> ensay, ok i see
[16:46] <gladiator> my sources.list
[16:46] <mrxgerman> #! /bin/sh
[16:46] <LjL> mrxgerman: change it to #!/bin/bash
[16:46] <Dr_willis_AAO> mrxgerman,  NO space after the #!
[16:46] <ensay> defrysk-> i remove language packs other than english..
[16:46] <|Nihil|> I am looking for a good tutorial on setting up Ubuntu 8.10 Intreped as a mail server. I do not need any fancy authentication schemes or anti-spam software, just a basic mail server. Does anyone know of a tutorial or HOWTO somewhere?
[16:47] <ortsvorsteher> mrxgerman: i read here also so plz dont pm me unasked. may you pastebin your shell script
[16:47] <mrxgerman> okay
[16:47] <Dr_willis_AAO> bash basics
[16:47] <mrxgerman> on my other ubuntu it works fine
[16:47] <daftykins> howtoforge.com is a good guide site |Nihil| , probly covers mail server roles
[16:47] <defrysk> gladiator, looks fine , if you are intersted in some extra codecs you should try adding medibunt to your repos
[16:47] <oCean_> Dr_willis_AAO: well yeah, but it won't break the script
[16:47] <LjL> gladiator: it looks good at first glance
[16:47] <defrysk> medibuntu *
[16:47] <LordFDisk> silv3r_m00n,  http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors
[16:48] <silv3r_m00n> LordFDisk: tried those they have 8.04 or 8.04.1
[16:48] <silv3r_m00n> I am looking for a 8.04.2 DVD
[16:48] <mrxgerman> now it works thank you
[16:48] <gladiator> defrysk: i never felt the need to change my sources.list file before. what codecs? multimedia codecs?
[16:48] <J2daosh> my airodump finds the card and is sniffing packets right now but i cant make ubuntu connect to the internet :(
[16:48] <fearful> silv3r_m00n, if you install 8.04 you can upgrade to 8.04.2
[16:48] <evilbug> fearful- set it up :D
[16:48] <defrysk> !medibuntu > gladiator
[16:49] <fearful> evilbug, nice :)
[16:49] <rbil> Anyone got any ideas? A VERY weird prob with nautilus ... left pane tree view hangs, locks up Nautilus ... however run Nautilus with a different user account and works fine
[16:49] <silv3r_m00n> fearful: so far I kept installing from synaptic and now I need a DVD for installation on other computers nearby
[16:49] <cutterjohn> hello
[16:49] <LjL> silv3r_m00n: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/8.04.2/release/ i'm afraid there's only 8.04.1 (despite the URL name)
[16:49] <silv3r_m00n> fearful: now can you give me a link
[16:49] <defrysk> gladiator, but if you have no issues, just ignore :)
[16:49] <silv3r_m00n> LjL:those are cds right ?
[16:50] <silv3r_m00n> LjL: ok they are 8.04.1
[16:50] <fearful> silv3r_m00n, http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/
[16:50] <silv3r_m00n> I need 8.04.2
[16:50] <LjL> silv3r_m00n: given that they say "dvd" in the file name, and they're 4Gb big, what do you think?
[16:50] <fearful> silv3r_m00n, I just checked download is 8.04.2
[16:50] <|Nihil|> no one know a guide for doing a simple mailserver in 8.10?
[16:50] <silv3r_m00n> fearful: this link >> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/8.04.2/release/ ?
[16:50] <silv3r_m00n> fearful: those are 8.04.2 ?
[16:50] <cutterjohn> I've got a quest regarding wireless networking with 64bit 8.10.  Specifically I've got an MSI GT725 (base chassis is MS-1722 if that helps) with an Intel Wifi link 5100.  I CANNOT get X11 up ATM (VESA modes and EDID are NOT matching) so I'm trying to set up networking manually.
[16:51] <fearful> silv3r_m00n, no thats 8.04.2 please use the link I provided I just checked and it has 8.04.2
[16:51] <fearful> silv3r_m00n, it has 8.04.1*
[16:51] <cutterjohn> (I figured setting up wireless network would be quicker than messing around manually configuring the X11 settings and/or manaully grabbing the packages to try th eproprietary ATI drivers...)
[16:51] <LjL> fearful: it's not dvd though
[16:51] <silv3r_m00n> fearful: the link you gave are cds
[16:51] <silv3r_m00n> fearful: I want dvds
[16:51] <evilbug> fearful- i think i miss xfce.
[16:52] <fearful> LjL, silv3r_m00n oh.. sorry didn't read that part
[16:52] <cutterjohn> So far, I've added to interfaces: auto wlan0 iface wlan0 inet dhcp wireless-essid "unwired3" wireless-key s:my_key
[16:52] <fearful> evilbug, you can always have both :p
[16:52] <LjL> silv3r_m00n: there aren't any 8.04.2 dvds, period
[16:52] <evilbug> fearful- no, i have to choose one.
[16:52] <evilbug> fearful- that's what mommy said :D
[16:52] <silv3r_m00n> LjL: means ?
[16:52] <cutterjohn> also tries via iwconfig wlan0 essid "unwired3" and iwconfig wlan0 key restricted s:my_key
[16:53] <silv3r_m00n> LjL: there arnt any 8.04.2 dvd
[16:53] <cutterjohn> router lists the machine as having been assigned an address, but this does not show in iwconfig wlan0 or ifconfig wlan0
[16:53] <fearful> silv3r_m00n, why nto just use normal CD
[16:53] <cutterjohn> a wlan0:avahi entry appears in ifconfig with the default no IP addr assigne, 169.254. etc
[16:54] <cutterjohn> any ideas?
[16:54] <LjL> silv3r_m00n: it means what you're looking for DOES NOT EXIST
[16:54] <silv3r_m00n> fearful: coz I just don't want to start synaptic download on all computers I shall be installing 8.04 to
[16:54] <cutterjohn> (or IOW what am I missing here? its been a VERY long time since Ive configured network from the command line and basic conf files)
[16:54] <LjL> silv3r_m00n: sorry. i can't make up a link, because there isn't a link.
[16:54] <silv3r_m00n> LjL: hmm
[16:54] <LjL> silv3r_m00n: but why do you absolutely need 8.04.2 rather than 8.04.1?
[16:54] <daftykins> cutterjohn, that looks like what would happen when your wireless encryption settings fail and the interface gets an APIPA address instead of a DHCP address
[16:54] <erUSUL> silv3r_m00n: use aptoncd
[16:54] <gladiator> question: why does disk usage show me something like 90 gb in my file system when i only have something like 20gb?
[16:55] <silv3r_m00n> LjL : not strictly .. was just looking for it
[16:55] <silv3r_m00n> erUSUL: you know KDE isn't there on the CD
[16:55] <cutterjohn> hmmm.. it should be working though as I'm using WEP, I suppose that I could try changing the WEP key again (have an old device that onyl supports WEP)
[16:55] <defrysk> silv3r_m00n, you seemt to have plenty bandwith to download a  8.04.1 and upgrade ?
[16:55] <knutwin> can anybody tell me how to edit the size of the nautilus toolbar icons?
[16:55] <LjL> silv3r_m00n: well keep in mind that even if an 8.04.2 DVD existed, you'd likely still have to do a few APT upgrades after installing it, anyway
[16:55] <shoi> how do i disable desktop effects
[16:55] <rbil> A VERY weird prob with nautilus ... left pane tree view hangs, locks up Nautilus ... however run Nautilus with a different user account and works fine
[16:55] <silv3r_m00n> defrysk: of course I have , but I want to get the dvd at once .. since I shall be using it on many pcs nearby
[16:56] <silv3r_m00n> LjL : that's fine
[16:56] <Dr_willis_AAO> rbil,  reset your users gnome settings then?
[16:56] <silv3r_m00n> LjL: was just looking for the latest thing I cud get
[16:56] <defrysk> silv3r_m00n, you know what LjL said and explained...
[16:56] <rbil> Dr_willis_AAO: ok, how?
[16:56] <LordFDisk> silv3r_m00n,  try this ... http://ftp.heanet.ie/pub/ubuntu-cdimage/releases/8.04.2/release/ it says 8.04.2 so I hope that helps
[16:56] <silv3r_m00n> defrysk: leave it
[16:56] <cutterjohn> daftykins: thanks, I'm going to try a very short test WEP key and re-test everything again...
[16:56] <erUSUL> silv3r_m00n: well if youre problem is that you have to upgrade in many computers you can just upgrade on one and use aptoncd on the others
[16:56] <defrysk> silv3r_m00n, so just go for the .1 and get over it
[16:56] <erUSUL> !aptoncd | silv3r_m00n
[16:56] <Dr_willis_AAO> rbil,  .gn* directriues abd ,.gconf* dirs.. move
[16:56] <LjL> LordFDisk: look at the filenames.
[16:56] <daftykins> np cutterjohn  good luck
[16:56] <Dr_willis_AAO> themto another place
[16:57] <silv3r_m00n> defrysk: that's what I am thinking of
[16:57] <defrysk> silv3r_m00n, cool
[16:57] <silv3r_m00n> aptoncd ... hmm
[16:57] <LordFDisk> LjL, I know ... I saw them
[16:57] <rbil> Dr_willis_AAO: can u give me the commandline to do this?
[16:57] <geirha> !aptproxy | silv3r_m00n
[16:57] <daftykins> knutwin,
[16:58] <Dr_willis_AAO> rbil,   just drag/drop the direcotries to some other sub dir.. is one way
[16:58] <daftykins> knutwin,  the icons can be sort of resized by choosing a different option on the "interface" tab of system -> preferences -> appearance
[16:58] <rbil> Dr_willis_AAO: prefer a cli
[16:58] <Dr_willis_AAO> rbil,  i recall some web sites that detail resetting gnome settings.. ya may wan tto google for it tolearn what you are doing
[16:58] <silv3r_m00n> geirha: means having package files downloaded from synaptic on 1 pc .. can be used over others ?
[16:58] <silv3r_m00n> geirha: that's good
[16:58] <Dr_willis_AAO> rbil,  then learn the cli then.. the dir names are .gnome* and .gconf* i recall
[16:59] <rbil> Dr_willis_AAO: yes, but don't want to lose all settings for all gnome apps
[16:59] <geirha> silv3r_m00n: yes, you set the computers to download from the procy instead of the repositories. Then when one computer downloads a package, it will be stored on the proxy. The next computer only downloads it from the proxy
[16:59] <Dr_willis_AAO> rbil,  then you need to be carefull..thats why i said 'move' then you can move the subdirs back..
[16:59] <silv3r_m00n> geirha: that's useful
[16:59] <humbolt> does anybody know how to take a screenshot from a website via mozilla? so that I see the whole page and not just the visible section.
[16:59] <rbil> Dr_willis_AAO: besides, i thought all nautilus settings were in .nautilus, but mv that didn't help
[16:59] <fearful> how can I check my tcl/tk version
[16:59] <Dr_willis_AAO> rbil,  most likely its some nautuls settings you need to clean out.
[16:59] <silv3r_m00n> by the way I wanted to know how is the comparison between 8.10 and 8.04
[16:59] <veckt> hello. what package should i install if i would like to create a simple FTP server on my machine?
[17:00] <Dr_willis_AAO> rbil,  they arenot there as far as i know
[17:00] <Tniffoc> I need to uninstall the firefox beta that came with my hardy ubuntu distro
[17:00] <Tniffoc> How would I do that?
[17:00] <defrysk> rbil, its probably rm 'rm .gnome2/nautilus*' without '
[17:01] <tony426> anyone know a good dark theme for gnome that doesn't mess anything else up?
[17:01] <daftykins> tony426, you tried "dust" from "community-themes" ?
[17:01] <daftykins> only thing i've seen it mess up is certificate info pages in firefox
[17:01] <daftykins> slightly hard to read
[17:01] <daftykins> still possible though
[17:01] <tony426> daftykins: no, i'll give it a shot but every dark one i've tried has had something screwed up
[17:01] <Tniffoc> I need to uninstall the firefox beta that came with my hardy ubuntu distro
[17:01] <Tniffoc> How would I do that?
[17:02] <Shininggg1> Tniffoc: Application--- add/remove program
[17:02]  * defrysk uses the mythbuntu theme
[17:02] <J2daosh> what does an entry look like for eth0
[17:02] <tony426> i think it's a problem with apps also not being coded to keep the system theme in mind, right?
[17:02] <geirha> silv3r_m00n: See the release notes for 8.10 http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/810
[17:02] <Tniffoc> Shininggg1: ok... I don't think it's in there but I'll check
[17:02] <pjsturgeon> samba question: How to set guests to read (globally on all shares) and users to write? The following config seems like it should work but does not http://pastie.org/410272
[17:02] <veckt> again, what package should i install if i would like to create a simple FTP server on my machine??
[17:02] <silv3r_m00n> geirha: I mean , looks like there are a lot of issues in 8.10
[17:02] <J2daosh> i disconnected another server and plugged in the internet, but i dont have anything listed in my interfaces file for eth0
[17:03] <silv3r_m00n> geirha: even my nvidia which works perfect in 8.04 didn't work in 8.10
[17:03] <CalvinDK> I need help to mount a USB HDD in ubuntu 8.10
[17:03] <knutwin> is there a way to make the nautilus toolbar icons bigger???
[17:03] <Shininggg1> Tniffoc: be sure to set the filter show: "installed only" it should be there
[17:04] <daftykins> lol knutwin you asked for smaller earlier
[17:04] <defrysk> knutwin, in the settings of nautilus
[17:04] <geirha> silv3r_m00n: Each ubuntu release adds a newer version of Xorg. That in turn requires the graphics drivers to be updated. In your case it sounds like nvidia hasn't got it right for 8.10 (yet)
[17:04] <Tniffoc> Shininggg1: It tells me to use the synaptic package manager. Where can I find that?
[17:04] <Dr_willis_AAO> Tniffoc,  should be in the menus. or yse the commmand 'synaptic'
[17:04] <silv3r_m00n> geirha: hmm
[17:05] <Tniffoc> Dr_willis_AAO: ok
[17:05] <Shininggg1> Tniffoc: System---administration--- synaptic package manager
[17:05] <geirha> silv3r_m00n: If 8.04 works satisfactory for you, I recommend you use it since it's an LTS release.
[17:05] <silv3r_m00n> geirha: yes , that's what I am thinking
[17:06] <defrysk> lts versions are supposed to be rock solid
[17:06] <knutwin> daftykins: your answer was no solution for me, in the interface tab you can only say icons "on" icons "off"
[17:06] <Shininggg1> Tniffoc: or open a console and type sudo apt-get remove <name of application>
[17:06] <Tniffoc> Shininggg1: I'll try that lol
[17:06] <silv3r_m00n> geirha: tell me 1 thing.. if there is a bug say in 8.10 is it fixed in the distro downloads or the fix is available only via synaptic upgrades ?
[17:06] <sky_> apt-get remove firefox*
[17:06] <daftykins> no there's more such as removing text to make the toolbar area used smaller
[17:06] <daftykins> but nm
[17:07] <erUSUL> silv3r_m00n: only upgrades or in LTS in 8.04.x releases
[17:07] <CalvinDK> I need help to mount a USB HDD in ubuntu 8.10 - please
[17:07] <Tniffoc> Shininggg1: let me open xchat so I"m not using a FireFox plugin
[17:07] <daftykins> CalvinDK, surprised it doesn't automount, what's the problem?
[17:07] <_Whipper__> calvin:prblm?
[17:07] <knutwin> daftykins: already done that. i want bigger navigation arrows for example
[17:08] <pjsturgeon> How to set guests to read samba shares and users to write? My config is: http://pastie.org/410272
[17:08] <Dr_willis_AAO> !info samba-doc
[17:08] <Dr_willis_AAO> the samba-doc package has Profuse amount of docs on samba and all samba related info :)
[17:09] <_Whipper__> if we r gonna discuss networking in specifics here, itll nevö stop :)
[17:09] <tux43_> hi
[17:09] <_Whipper__> ho
[17:10] <gladiator> how do i get to the console at the startup?
[17:10] <Dr_willis_AAO> gladiator,  disable or stop the GDM service
[17:10] <Dr_willis_AAO> !upstart
[17:11] <itS> HAHA?DCC SEND "ff???f?" 0 0 0
[17:11] <Dr_willis_AAO> hmmm>
[17:12] <tux43_> I've tried to make a bootable usb stick kubuntu 8.10 with "usb-creator" but when trying to boot it only a blinking underline is visible (bios settings should be correct) - do I have to add it to grub?
[17:12] <_Whipper__> doh.. somebody messed up :)
[17:12] <cutterjohn> daftykins, you're not going to believe this,, but I noticed in iwconfig wlan0 that the essid was DOUBLE quoted, so I did iwconfig wlan0 essid unwired3  (NOTE NO QUOTES!)
[17:12] <cutterjohn> daftykins :P works now, thanks
[17:13] <cutterjohn> daftykins made me look harder
[17:13] <daftykins> :) yay for my networking knowledge coming in handy, thanks for the update, that's great
[17:13] <Dr_willis_AAO> tux43_,  try making a bootable usb with unetbootin.. i have some pc;s that just do NOT want to boot some of my usb sticks.. not sure why.
[17:13] <daftykins> very glad to help cutterjohn
[17:13] <cutterjohn> daftykins know much about X11 and EDID?
[17:14] <cutterjohn> daftykins as with network enabled Im now off to coerce the 4850 mobility into bringing up X11
[17:14] <daftykins> i'm afraid since X.org deprecated /etc/X11/xorg.conf i'm totally lost
[17:14] <jrib> daftykins: xorg.conf isn't deprecated...
[17:14] <Dr_willis_AAO> You can always use your old xorg.conf
[17:14] <daftykins> well you know what i mean jrib
[17:14] <cutterjohn> daftykins actually I meant the X.org release, but I still call it X11
[17:14] <daftykins> doesn't contain driver or resolution stuff anymore really
[17:14] <jrib> daftykins: it does.
[17:14] <daftykins> yeah i'm too newb in those subjects i'm afraid cutterjohn  :)
[17:14] <pjsturgeon> Dr_willis_AAO: I have read through the manual and several examples. according to those i can see no reason why this would not work
[17:15] <rabbit_ubuntu> Hey guys
[17:15] <daftykins> yeah you can put them in to force it jrib, but it doesn't contain them now
[17:15] <cutterjohn> daftykins yes, but the current problem is with EDID reporting values that X.org doesn't like so it refuses to start up... I'm hoping that installing catalyst will be a q&d "fix"
[17:15] <rabbit_ubuntu> I have a constant problem with firefox
[17:15] <Dr_willis_AAO> pjsturgeon,  samba you mean? often its the permission/ownership of the shared directory that  cause me issues
[17:15] <cutterjohn> daftykins off to try
[17:15] <jrib> daftykins: well if nothing is there, it does something smart, yes.  But that's still the place to put settings like driver and such
[17:15] <pjsturgeon> Dr_willis_AAO: all root 777
[17:15] <rods> hey. I'm trying to get skype to work for Ubuntu 8.10. I get an audio playback error when I try to run a test call. Any advice?
[17:16] <_Whipper__> just do everything as root.. :)(
[17:16] <_Whipper__> -(
[17:16] <rabbit_ubuntu> Every couple hours the flash just...Stops working. Or starts giving major issues. NOTHING that requires flash works. Videos, games. Nothing. Either that happens. Or the video freezes in the middle
[17:16] <nemo^^> Hi folks, i'm an ubuntu newbie, but i've installed ubuntu 6.06 on an old computer for cnc use, and i'd like to have internet on it, and i cant seem to find drivers for my wlan card. I have actually downgraded from ubuntu 8.10 to 6.06, the thing is that in ubuntu 8.10 the wlan drivers where installed.. so my question is, can i use the 8.10 install disk and synaptics to install the wlan drivers from that version?
[17:16] <rabbit_ubuntu> Can anyone assist?
[17:16] <CalvinDK> DBus error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.
[17:16] <shoi> i have a question. Im trying to play wow with wine but every time i try to login everything is black
[17:17] <cutterjohn> daftykins my problem is the EDID values though... I had an MSI GX620/MS-1651 earlier(got refunded) where it would work, but ONLY with 1680x1050... read-edid complained about the EDID implementation maybe being bad... there's a launchpad bug about it, but in that case it at least loaded native res
[17:17] <shoi> how can i fix it?
[17:17] <_Whipper__> nemo: very much doubt u cannot..
[17:17] <cutterjohn> daftykins this time, its reporting VESA values, but none that X.org likes so it refuses to start, anyways I'm going to try the q&d catalyst method first, then I'll start digging for the LCD panel info and trying modelines
[17:17] <_Whipper__> in plain fiinnish, u propably cant
[17:17] <cutterjohn> MSI GT725 now though
[17:18] <daftykins> cutterjohn, if you can google for your display's modeline you could put it in /etc/X11/xorg.conf to force it
[17:18] <daftykins> i used to have to do that for a DVI LCD of mine with an earlier Ubuntu ver
[17:18] <nemo^^> _Whipper__: too bad, do you know of a site or something where i can download driver packages for ubuntu 6.06?
[17:18] <cutterjohn> daftykins yep, the problem is the horizontal timings for the LCD panel...
[17:18] <daftykins> i think modelines contain timings too, no?
[17:18] <_Whipper__> neo: nope
[17:18] <cutterjohn> daftykins as I know vsync is 60
[17:18] <Bacta> HI EVERYONE!!!
[17:18] <nemo^^> :-/
[17:19] <rabbit_ubuntu> Ay
[17:19] <shoi> i
[17:19] <Slash[GnR]> hello... i've got a problem with automake
[17:19] <Slash[GnR]> i did autoscan ; mv configure.scan configure.ac ; autoheader ; vim configure.ac (added AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE) ; aclocal ; automake --add-missing --copy ; autoconf ... and it still doesnt generate a Makefile.in
[17:19] <Bacta> HOW IS EVERYONE TONIGHT???
[17:19] <CalvinDK> I cant read my usb drive I get this error : DBus error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.
[17:19] <cutterjohn> daftykins depends on the monitor/panel and the auto modeline generators weren't giving me good values for the old MSI GX620, so I'm not hopeful for this one either unless I can dig up the specs
[17:19] <cutterjohn> daftykins but I think this one has an older model LCD panel
[17:19] <splashis> hi
[17:19] <pjsturgeon> Dr_willis_AAO: the shared folder is set to root user and group. all the filees a chmod to 777
[17:19] <splashis> i need some urgent aid with my wlan-hardware
[17:19] <shoi> Does anyone know why when i try to play wow the launcher works but the loading screen is all black?
[17:19] <_Whipper__> nemo: allthough if u cant get work.. try something like DSL(as in DamnSmallLinux) or ...etc..
[17:19] <pjsturgeon> i cannot write or delete as a logged in user
[17:19] <splashis> is there anybody with some time and patience?
[17:19] <dave__> hello, can someone tell me how to turn off the digital output jack for my audigy, the volume manager wont let me untick the box :(
[17:20] <cutterjohn> daftykins as MSI has sold the base chassis for quite some time now (w/ different MXM GPUs)
[17:20] <Dr_willis_AAO> pjsturgeon,  You did give the users a samba password with 'sudo smbpasswd -a USERNAME' ?
[17:20] <daftykins> ah i see cutterjohn , googling i see a lot of talk of "-Hsync" and "+Vsync" entries in xorg.conf files, should be possible?
[17:20] <pjsturgeon> i did not
[17:20] <rabbit_ubuntu> Every couple hours the flash just...Stops working. Or starts giving major issues. NOTHING that requires flash works. Videos, games. Nothing. Either that happens. Or the video freezes in the middle. So can anyone assist?
[17:20] <Dr_willis_AAO> pjsturgeon,  :) you missed a step then perhaps. Try that
[17:20] <defrysk> !ask | splashis
[17:20] <cutterjohn> daftykins well off for more fun...  I'll let you know what happens
[17:20] <daftykins> gl :)
[17:21] <pjsturgeon> Dr_willis_AAO: i did not :$
[17:21] <_Whipper__> splasish: did u notice the count of people in this channel??
[17:21] <Dr_willis_AAO> pjsturgeon,  i normally enable home an dguest shares  - takes me all of 3 min.. You must of missed somthing.
[17:21] <pjsturgeon> why do i need to do this? I can log in and read using my linux password
[17:21] <qcjn> hi, how to stop an app, it s 8804 in top
[17:22] <Dr_willis_AAO> read via samba? the 2 passwords are different
[17:22] <nemo^^> _Whipper__: ok, i'll look around a bit for answers.. downloaded a version of ubuntu from linuxcnc.org with pre installed EMC2 package, and as a linux newbie i'm not overconfident about installing packages from source
[17:22] <defrysk> qcjn, if its in top enter k
[17:22] <cutterjohn> daftykins (the whole idea for the EDID based screen modes was so that we theoretically wouldn't have to manually specify modelines any longer, however Ive had nothing but bad luck with it on notebooks so far... now for catalyst then fallback to OSS drivers and modelines)
[17:22] <pjsturgeon> yea i can read via samba with that password. will try it though
[17:22] <CalvinDK> I cant read my usb drive I get this error : DBus error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.
[17:22] <rabbit_ubuntu> Anyone able to assist me?
[17:22] <splashis> ok, sry: i have an intel proset wireless 3945 on my system and everything worked fine until a couple of days ago. i'm afraid i can't say what caused it to stop working but now it does not appear any more in the network-overview and trying to activate it with the keyboard-combination does no lead to any effect
[17:22] <Dr_willis_AAO> pjsturgeon,  when in doubt. enable verbose logging in samba and check the logs i guess.
[17:22] <_Whipper__> nemo: DSL runs right from cd or usb-disk
[17:22] <defrysk> qcjn, then your pid nr
[17:22] <defrysk> and then enter twice
[17:22] <ortsvorsteher> !anyone | rabbit_ubuntu
[17:22] <pjsturgeon> ahh will try
[17:23] <qcjn> defrysk in terminal
[17:23] <nemo^^> _Whipper__: ok i'll check it out :) .. thanks :D
[17:23] <_Whipper__> nemo: it doesnt mess up your system.. if u dont want to
[17:23] <defrysk> qcjn, yuip
[17:23] <defrysk> -yup
[17:23] <rabbit_ubuntu> Every couple hours the flash just...Stops working. Or starts giving major issues. NOTHING that requires flash works. Videos, games. Nothing. Either that happens. Or the video freezes in the middle. So can anyone assist?
[17:23] <qcjn> defrysk ok
[17:23] <rabbit_ubuntu> I have a constant problem with firefox
[17:24] <ortsvorsteher> !enter | rabbit_ubuntu
[17:24] <angler> Hello
[17:24] <defrysk> qcjn, you can see in top what you are diong
[17:24] <Steffy> Problem: window focus follows the cursor but in Window Preferences "follow mouse" is off and in compiz "focus prevention window" is set to "off"
[17:24] <ortsvorsteher> rabbit_ubuntu: which flash do you use? the nonfree plugin? or gnash?
[17:24] <defrysk> man top
[17:24] <defrysk> man top
[17:24] <daftykins> cutterjohn, check PM
[17:24] <nemo^^> _Whipper__ well the system is newly formatted and istalled, so that does not bother me much in any case.. it's just that i need the cnc software.. thanks for the tip, i'll check it out
[17:24] <rabbit_ubuntu> ortsvorsteher: I do belive its the nonfree
[17:24] <tux43_> Dr_willis_AAO: thanks, but there are no ubuntu packages for intrepid (only for jaunty) and the binary file does not work here - is there any alternative? Did all your sticks work when using unetbootin?
[17:25] <ortsvorsteher> rabbit_ubuntu: in ff you can type in address location "about:plugins" there you will see which flash plugins youre system is using
[17:26] <rabbit_ubuntu> ortsvorsteher: I went to synaptic
[17:26] <rabbit_ubuntu> its the non free
[17:26]  * nemo^^ is afk
[17:26] <ortsvorsteher> rabbit_ubuntu: plz check in ff, may there is also a gnash installed...
[17:26] <Dr_willis_AAO> tux43_,  i have some machines that work with them. and some tha tdont.. the whole 'bootable USB' stuff can be very hit or miss.  and ive messed with it a lot.
[17:26] <Lighttitan> in this guide I am following I have to disable PPA's, I don't know what PPA's are or how to disable them. Can anyone tell me?
[17:26] <rabbit_ubuntu> ortsvorsteher:  Ok, one second please
[17:26] <Myrtti> *!*@91.144.8.100
[17:27] <Myrtti> grah
[17:27] <Dr_willis_AAO> tux43_,  i have a machine that boots most all.. except one.. and that one does work on all the other machines.. so go figure..
[17:27] <_Whipper__> beer & fags > (realy coffee)
[17:27] <ray_ray> hmmm does anyone know if wicd uses /etc/network/interfaces ?
[17:27] <defrysk> ray_ray, no clue but wicd works nicely on my box
[17:27] <Steffy> Hi, problem is window focus follows the cursor but in Window Preferences "follow mouse" is off and in compiz "focus prevention window" is set to "off"
[17:28] <ray_ray> defrysk wicd works okish on mine i still prefer network-manager
[17:28] <LinuxUser_> Hey, i have downloaded a ZIP file, and i need to install it (its to my icons) but how do i do that, i have tried a lot fo things, but i simply cant figure it out :( , anybody there want to help me :( ?
[17:28] <dios_mio> Steffy, is you a girl?
[17:28] <Steffy> dios_mio: No. Steffy is short for "Steffan"
[17:28] <Dr_willis_AAO> LinuxUser_,  install and use the unzip command?
[17:29] <splashis> i have an intel proset wireless 3945 on my system and everything worked fine until a couple of days ago. i'm afraid i can't say what caused it to stop working but now it does not appear any more in the network-overview and trying to activate it with the keyboard-combination does no lead to any effect. I do not want to re-install again... please give me a hint how to get the device working again
[17:29] <LjL> !ot | dios_mio
[17:29] <LjL> !away > nemo^^    (nemo^^, see the private message from ubottu)
[17:29] <wordsnyc> test me
[17:29] <rabbit_ubuntu> ortsvorsteher: File name:  npwrapper.libflashplayer.so
[17:29] <rabbit_ubuntu> Shockwave Flash 10.0 r22
[17:29] <rabbit_ubuntu> application/x-shockwave-flash Shockwave Flash
[17:29] <rabbit_ubuntu> application/futuresplash FutureSplash Player
[17:29] <LinuxUser_> Dr_willis_AAO:  But how do i do that :( ?
[17:29] <FloodBot2> rabbit_ubuntu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:29] <daftykins> splashis, in terminal type "lsmod | grep iwl", it should return the iwl3945 which is the default module driver
[17:29] <LjL> wordsnyc: you probably wanted to do that in #ubuntu-read-topic - and with another nickname
[17:30] <ortsvorsteher> rabbit_ubuntu: sry, so i have no idea...
[17:30] <Dr_willis_AAO> LinuxUser_,  hmmm.. 'unzip foo.zip' perhaps.. or check the man pages with man unzip ,
[17:30] <Dr_willis_AAO> !zip | LinuxUser_
[17:30] <qcjn> how can i kill an app i see it in top
[17:30] <qcjn> 8804
[17:30] <rabbit_ubuntu> ortsvorsteher: Aight. Thanks then. I appreciate it
[17:30] <qcjn> kill -8804 ?
[17:30] <LinuxUser_> Dr_willis_AAO:  okay i try something
[17:30] <silentContender> Can some one help me login into my computer. It refused to let me in.
[17:31] <LinuxUser_> ubottu:  okay thanks ill try
[17:31] <splashis> daftykins, no I'm afraid there is no response at all
[17:31] <Lighttitan> what are PPA's
[17:31] <ortsvorsteher> !coffee
[17:31] <daftykins> ok splashis  try typing "modprobe iwl3945" does it do anything?
[17:31] <defrysk> qcjn, use top
[17:31] <defrysk> qcjn, enter k in the top terminal
[17:31] <LinuxUser_> ubottu:  Well, i have opened the zip file, but its for my icons, so how do i install it now ?
[17:32] <splashis> daftykins: WARNING: Error inserting cfg80211 (/lib/modules/2.6.27-9-server/kernel/net/wireless/cfg80211.ko): Operation not permitted
[17:32] <Dr_willis_AAO> LinuxUser_,  these are windows icons? or what exactly?
[17:32] <LinuxUser_> Dr_willis_AAO:  Well, i have opened the zip file, but its for my icons, so how do i install it now ?
[17:32] <daftykins> try running again with "sudo" in front splashis , sorry
[17:32] <LinuxUser_> Dr_willis_AAO:  Yes, cool icons for my icons :)
[17:32] <Narcissus> Steffy: whats your problem?
[17:32] <rabbit_ubuntu> About my problem. Everytime it happens, I reinstall the nonfree plugin for flash. But the problem keep happening. CAn anyone post a solution to this? Or is the problem the browser?
[17:32] <Lighttitan> !PPA
[17:33] <Lighttitan> ah
[17:33] <Dr_willis_AAO> LinuxUser_,  you realize that linux dosent really USE .ico files? You may need to convert them to png.
[17:33] <Steffy> Narcissus: window focus follows cursor but in window perfs follow mouse is unticked and its off in compiz too :)
[17:33] <Dr_willis_AAO> !find ico2png
[17:33] <splashis> daftykins, no, my fault, could have thought of that. first command: iwl3945                98932  0
[17:33] <splashis> rfkill                 17048  2 iwl3945
[17:33] <splashis> mac80211              216692  1 iwl3945
[17:33] <splashis> led_class              12164  1 iwl3945
[17:33] <splashis> cfg80211               32392  2 iwl3945,mac80211
[17:33] <FloodBot2> splashis: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:33] <filthpig> hi guys, just a quick Q: Is there some way to get Rhythmbox to load more than five songs from last.fm when searching for an artist?
[17:33] <Dr_willis_AAO> LinuxUser_,  there are tools to convert them
[17:33] <Narcissus> Steffy: and you recently installed and uninstalled xfce, yes?
[17:34] <LinuxUser_> Dr_willis_AAO:  It is PNG files, all off then.
[17:34]  * welp strokes Narcissus 
[17:34] <daftykins> splashis,  ok it looks like it's started the driver now, you may need to reboot and check it's still running and then try wireless, or try wireless from the network manager now and it may be there
[17:34] <Steffy> Narcissus: Yeah, but I've removed *ALL* Xfce packages
[17:34] <mjgoins> which version of the install disk do I need for install-time hdd encryption?
[17:34] <LinuxUser_> Dr_willis_AAO:  But how do i install the theme for my icons.
[17:34] <Narcissus> Steffy: one sec
[17:34] <jtaji> mjgoins: you need the alternate cd
[17:34] <Steffy> H'ok Narcissus
[17:34] <mjgoins> jtaji: thx
[17:34] <Dr_willis_AAO> LinuxUser_,  so use them then.. they are not a gnome theme.. so yiu just use them as if they were normal images.. OR are they a gnome icon theme>
[17:34] <LinuxUser_> Dr_willis_AAO:  yes it is
[17:35] <splashis> daftykins: Thanks a lot! I will make a reboot and when it works I will light up a candle for you, otherwise I'm back in 5min ;)
[17:35] <LinuxUser_> Dr_willis_AAO:  it is a gnome icon theme.
[17:35] <daftykins> hehe ok
[17:35] <vineeth> how can i do voice chat yahoo or gmail in ubuntu 8.10
[17:35] <Dr_willis_AAO> LinuxUser_,  yoi did NOT need to extract them.. and  why are they .zip ed?
[17:35] <ubuntu_is_dabest> is there a way to log in the system through a remote terminal?
[17:35] <Steffy> ubuntu_is_dabest: ssh
[17:35] <Dr_willis_AAO> LinuxUser_,  you can insall nome theme parts by just drag/dropping the file onto the gnome appearancess contril-panel window.
[17:36] <LinuxUser_> Dr_willis_AAO: okay, but i still got the zip folder ..
[17:36] <rabbit_ubuntu> ortsvorsteher: Thanks again for the help.
[17:36] <ubuntu_is_dabest> i mean, the services don't run until i locally login on the desktop
[17:36] <Dr_willis_AAO> LinuxUser_,  you mean its a .zip FILE or a .tar.gz file?
[17:36] <LinuxUser_> Dr_willis_AAO: Hm .. i think i understand what you meant there, i try
[17:36] <LjL> ubuntuno, there is not way unless you install ssh first.
[17:36] <ubuntu_is_dabest> i want it to run, without having to log in to it locally
[17:36] <Dr_willis_AAO> LinuxUser_,  your use of the term zip - may be wrong.
[17:36] <LinuxUser_> Dr_willis_AAO: its a ZIP file :)
[17:36] <ubuntu_is_dabest> i got ssh running, i can log in through putty, but the system doesn't start the services
[17:37] <Dr_willis_AAO> LinuxUser_,  no idea on tha tthen.. linux dosent normally use .zips that tool may or may not know wha tto do with them
[17:37] <silentContender> How do I fix a broken login?
[17:37] <Steffy> ubuntu_is_dabest: ssh -Y will set the display variable to the machine you are logging in from and send services to that machine
[17:37] <ubuntu_is_dabest> like my MySQL server, doesn't run at all until i log in on the desktop
[17:37] <das> Starlight
[17:37] <ubuntu_is_dabest> even if i logged in through SSH
[17:38] <LinuxUser_> Dr_willis_AAO: hm alright, but thanks for your help anyway :)
[17:38] <Steffy> ubuntu_is_dabest: have you tried vncviewer?
[17:38] <Narcissus> Steffy: have you tried installing xfce again, turning it off, and then uninstalling it again? Or was it not enabled in Xfce in the first place?
[17:38] <LjL> ubuntu_is_dabest: uhm, that shouldn't happen
[17:38] <ubuntu_is_dabest> vnc doesn't run too, until i log in
[17:38] <jrib> ubuntu_is_dabest: there's something wrong if you are right.  The services should start on boot without any user interaction necessary by default after you install them
[17:38] <LjL> ubuntu_is_dabest: check logs for anomalies... services like that should start regardless of you logging in
[17:39] <ubuntu_is_dabest> well, ssh run
[17:39] <RussM_> Hi - Anyone having problems pulling updates from security.ubuntu.com right now? I'm getting "W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/f/firefox-3.0/firefox-3.0-branding_3.0.6+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.8.10.1_amd64.deb 404 Not Found" (and similar) when I try to update today.
[17:39] <ubuntu_is_dabest> that's weird
[17:39] <Steffy> Narcissus: window focus was On in Xfce but I've uninstalled it now so...shouldn't removing the offending package do the same thing?
[17:39] <kiris> can I run XP inside Ubuntu such that XP runs from a real NTFS partition rather than a simulated one?
[17:39] <Narcissus> Steffy: if it wasn't, trying gnome-mag (I think it's part of orca accessibility or something) and then quit gnome-mag, that has an automatic windows focus follows mouse thing
[17:39] <ubuntu_is_dabest> ssh server, apache server, do run
[17:39] <Narcissus> Steffy: hmmmmm
[17:39] <Narcissus> Steffy: Have you rebooted?
[17:40] <Steffy> Narcissus: Ja, it's been doing this for a few days now
[17:40] <sanchez_> hi
[17:40] <Steffy> Narcissus: I'll try gnome-mag now
[17:40] <Steffy> Narcissus: gnome-mag isn't installed :P
[17:40] <DasEi> kiris: you can have a dualboot or :
[17:40] <ubuntu_is_dabest> what is the service name for vnc?
[17:40] <Narcissus> Steffy: is orca installed?
[17:41] <Steffy> Narcissus: Ja
[17:41] <Narcissus> Steffy: it's the accessibility magnifier tool
[17:41] <Narcissus> I can't remember the specific name of the package, but iirc it's installed as default under GNome
[17:41] <DasEi> kiris:﻿ ubottu: There are several solutions for running other operating systems (or their programs) inside Ubuntu, while using the native CPU as much as possible: !kvm is the preferred approach in Ubuntu.  See also !QEmu (with !KQemu), !VirtualBox, !VMWare, as well as !WINE and !Cedega for Windows applications
[17:41] <RussM_> Nevermind, did a new check, number of updates went up even higher, and now all the packages fetched properly.
[17:41] <Steffy> Narcissus: orca runs
[17:42] <Steffy> Narcissus: orca runs in terminal and prints a giant list of langs
[17:42] <silentContender> When I login, I instantly get logged out (no error messages).  Ideas?
[17:42] <Tniffoc> Tniffoc
[17:42] <DasEi> ﻿silentContender:check your /var/log/syslog
[17:42] <LjL> silentContender: something corrupt in the gnome config perhaps. try creating another user ("sudo adduser username") and see if that one can log in
[17:43] <Narcissus> Steffy: run it from the GUI?
[17:43] <Steffy> Narcissus: brb - I ran orca and it asked about Braille monitor/printing and I said no to both. Apparently I now have to reboot
[17:43] <Steffy> Narcissus: I did and it opened in terminal
[17:43] <Narcissus> o_O
[17:43] <silentContender> DasEi, It mentions nothing about logins
[17:43]  * Narcissus scratches his head
[17:43] <silentContender> LjL, I've tried that with no success
[17:44] <silentContender> LjL, I not using GDM. I was using KDM (it's gone now too)
[17:44] <unimatrix9> was that cdburnerxp that we recommend for burning ubuntu on windows, or was it something else?
[17:44] <unimatrix9> ise
[17:44] <unimatrix9> iso
[17:44] <LjL> silentContender: what do you mean it's gone? what's the login manager that shows up *now*?
[17:44] <unimatrix9> ...
[17:44] <DasEi> silentContender: diskspace up ? can you go to command line ?
[17:44] <Steffy> Narcissus: I ran it again and a WALA! A gui appears
[17:44] <silentContender> LjL, I uninstall all login managers. And the console login won't even work!
[17:44] <karol> How to stick screenlets aplet to my desktop?
[17:45] <ubuntu_is_dabest> what is the command to start a service? also list the services?
[17:45] <silentContender> DasEi, My HDD is quite empty
[17:45] <LjL> silentContender: ah it's the console login that doesn't work... ugh. will recovery mode give you a shell?
[17:45] <silentContender> DasEi, I'm stuck in the recovery root console
[17:45] <silentContender> LjL, I'm in it right now (different comp obviously)
[17:45] <LjL> silentContender: cat /etc/passwd, does the shell listed for your user actually exist? is "bash" installed?
[17:46] <DasEi> silentContender: what happens : sudo apt-get install gdm               ?
[17:46] <silentContender> LjL, my users exist
[17:46] <LjL> silentContender: not the users, the shell they have listed
[17:46] <silentContender> DasEi, will that even work, I can't even login through shell
[17:46] <Steffy> Narcissus_: I don't see anything in Orca about setting window focus
[17:46] <Narcissus> Steffy: something about a magnifier
[17:46] <Narcissus> ?
[17:46] <DasEi> ubuntu_is_dabest: try top and htop for watching
[17:46] <Steffy> Narcissus: Magnifier is off
[17:46] <LjL> silentContender: does "apt-cache policy bash" say it's installed?
[17:47] <silentContender> LjL,  the shell listed is "bin/bash" I guess that what you asked?
[17:47] <LjL> silentContender: yes
[17:47] <DasEi> silentContender: yes you can from root-shell, aslo do : sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[17:47] <silentContender> LjL, bash is installed version 3.2-4ubuntu1
[17:47] <Narcissus> Steffy: turn magnifier on
[17:47] <LjL> silentContender: did you basically have Kubuntu installed?
[17:47] <Steffy> Narcissus: ok...
[17:47] <silentContender> DasEi, I've tried "sudo ...", doesn't work
[17:48] <karol> How to stick Screenlets aplets to the desktop I click it and then show me your desktop applets disappear
[17:48] <silentContender> LjL, I have ubuntu install but stripped GNOME and GDM and replaced it with KDM and KDe 4.1
[17:48] <DasEi> silentContender: isn't the pc connected to internet ?
[17:48] <LjL> silentContender: uhm, tough - i would have suggested trying to install (k)ubuntu-desktop to restore any packages that might have gone missing, but if you have such a custom setup...
[17:49] <Flimm> Anyone know how to make pidgin flash when someone addresses you in IRC chat like in Xchat?
[17:49] <silentContender> DasEi, it's connected through wireless (a pain to setup in shell)
[17:49] <DasEi> silentContender: can you ping google ?
[17:49] <LjL> silentContender: try "apt-get install ubuntu-minimal"
[17:49] <kantor> hi I just downloaded the ubuntu amd64 ISO image, I burned it to a DVD then I started to verify the DVD. Validation failed with this: md5sum: ./casper/filesystem.squashfs: Input/output error . I burned again the image with another DVD writer and the problem is the same
[17:49] <silentContender> LjL, it was working yesterday afternoon, but yesterday night is a different story
[17:49] <kantor> this is a common problem with the 64 bit DVD images ??
[17:49] <silentContender> DasEi, give me a sec have to setup the wireless
[17:50] <ubuntu_is_dabest> what is the service name for the built in vnc on ubuntu interpid?
[17:50] <Dr_willis_AAO> ubuntu_is_dabest, gnome can use 'vino' but thats not technically a service
[17:50] <DasEi> ﻿ ubottu: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows, no it isn't, kantor
[17:50] <LjL> kantor: an input/output error shouldn't have anything to do with the image methinks...
[17:50] <silentContender> DasEi, I can ping google
[17:51] <DasEi> silentContender: what happens : sudo apt-get install gdm               ?
[17:51] <LjL> silentContender: then try the "apt-get install ubuntu-minimal"
[17:51] <DasEi> silentContender:last cmd without quest-mark
[17:51] <silentContender> LjL, "apt-get install ubuntu-minimal" just says "ubuntu-minimal is already the newest version"
[17:51] <shoi> does anyone know why when i try to load up wow the login screen is black? iv gone to like 5 websites and did all the tweaking but it still wont work
[17:51] <LjL> silentContender: ok
[17:51] <victim> bb
[17:52] <kantor> LjL, but I'm getting the same error on different systems, and with different DVD's (the same amd64 image written with different writers)
[17:52] <silentContender> DasEi, should I install GDM, like I said I can't even login from the command line
[17:52] <mickey> how do i mount a sidekick ? i did lsusb and got Bus 001 Device 028: ID 0da0:1102 Danger Research
[17:52] <DasEi> shoi: try #wine-hq
[17:52] <LjL> silentContender: i'd try installing "debsums", and running "debsums -s -g > brokenpackages", which should list in the file "brokenpackages" all files that might be corrupt
[17:52] <biomass> I'm trying to recover from installing the ati catalyst driver on Intrepid. I'm currently not able to get into X so I'm using the recovery root shell, if I type startx it crashes and gives me a backtrace cotaining amongst other this a reference to the radeon_drv.so - how should I go about to get my system back into a useable state ? =)
[17:52] <shoi> iv been there for 2 hours
[17:52] <runpain2> !vmware
[17:52] <bthornton> Is anyone familiar with the "Create New Wireless Network" feature on NetworkManager? I'm curious if it's possible to share an existing wireless connection with that (or will it just disable my current wireless connection?)
[17:53] <runpain2>  !VirtualBox
[17:53] <LjL> bthornton: i don't think a normal wifi card can act as a repeater
[17:53] <daftykins> bthornton, you mean connect to two things at once? nah not possible
[17:53] <silentContender> LjL, running debsums
[17:53] <DasEi> silentContender:you have a custom config, as you said, and I don't want to be responsible for a damage to a unknown sys ; I'd try update/grade first, then gdm, then reconfig of xorg
[17:53] <LjL> silentContender: it will probably list a lot of spell-checking related packages (it always does that), but that doesn't matter. look for bad packages that look important
[17:54] <mickey> anyone know?
[17:54] <bthornton> Well, basically I already have my laptop to a protected network and I have another wifi device that I would like to connect to that network via the laptop. I figured a simple NAT setup would work--if it's possible to have my Wifi device on my laptop look like two interfaces
[17:54] <silentContender> LjL, how long does it take?
[17:54] <LjL> silentContender: on my system it usually doesn't take very long, 5 minutes or oso
[17:54] <josh_> have a question I have a odd sound issue. I'm able to stream audio from off the internet like off youtube but when I try to watch a movie off my computer ill get the picture but no sound?
[17:55] <bthornton> LjL: is what I described a 'repeater' in the sense that you were talking about it?
[17:55] <silentContender> DasEi, Xorg is fine when I use startx (except keyboard and mouse don't work on the desktop)
[17:55] <omar> good evening/morning
[17:55] <LjL> bthornton: yes, sort of. why can't you just connect the other wifi device directly to the AP?
[17:56] <josh_> marino
[17:56] <omar> I did an update yesterday and my sound went bye bye
[17:56] <LjL> bthornton: (you COULD do what you describe if you had TWO wireless cards, in any case)
[17:56] <bthornton> because the "protected network" doesn't allow simultaneous logins in the same username
[17:56] <omar> I did an update yesterday and my sound went bye bye
[17:57] <silentContender> LjL, there alot of "no md5sums for **** and no deb available"
[17:57] <runpain2> hey that Virtaul box works great better than vmware
[17:57] <LjL> silentContender: yes, pretty normal (isn't ideal, but not much that can be done about it). anything else?
[17:57] <daftykins> better how?
[17:57] <anon> does the ubuntu installer change the ntfs partitions size?
[17:57] <DasEi> anon: If you allow it to
[17:57] <silentContender> LjL, just got "can't open linux-image-2.6.27-7 ..."
[17:58] <DasEi> silentContender: aah..
[17:58] <anon> i have a 12 gb disk with 1 ntfs partition taking all the space DasEi
[17:58] <anon> i want to install ubunutu in it
[17:58] <anon> *ubuntu
[17:58] <silentContender> LjL, "checksum mismatch python-kde4 file /usr/libe/python2.5/site-packages/PyKDE4/__init__.pyc
[17:58] <DasEi> anon: and now want dualboot ? that's hardly enough space
[17:59] <LjL> silentContender: doesn't seem relevant
[17:59] <anon> DasEi: yes. does the installer have an option to change its size ?
[17:59] <mickey> how do i mount a sidekick ? i did lsusb and got Bus 001 Device 028: ID 0da0:1102 Danger Research
[17:59] <silentContender> LjL, It's done
[17:59] <LjL> bthornton: actually it does seem like some cards can be put into "repeater" mode (but then i suspect you wouldn't be able to use the connection on your laptop at all)
[17:59] <josh_> have a question I have a odd sound issue. I'm able to stream audio from off the internet like off youtube but when I try to watch a movie off my computer ill get the picture but no sound?
[17:59] <anon> DasEi: well, does it ?
[17:59] <DasEi> anon: It has, but I recommend you a additional disk
[18:00] <anon> DasEi: thanks
[18:00] <gartral1> rythembox improperly reports my DAP as a sansa e280... its an e250
[18:00] <silentContender> LjL, nothing is in "brokenpackages"
[18:00] <Allaun> does it still work gartral1
[18:00] <LjL> silentContender: i have no idea what might be happening if there's nothing very currupt... are you in bash right now? (i'm not sure whether recovery mode uses bash or dash or busybox or what)
[18:00] <lokoabreu> by any chance.. is someone using vmware fusion here
[18:00] <lokoabreu> ?
[18:01] <silentContender> LjL, I am in the recovery console, how do I check?
[18:01] <bthornton> LjL: ah. well, good to know anyway. thanks for your help
[18:01] <ray_ray> hmmm ok I seem to have a small issue with network manager being used at home (regarding my laptop). It works fine at varsity where we use a dynamic IP I seem to have a static Ip at home. I'm using 8.10 on 8.04 network manager works fine. The problem seems to come from the upgrade not using /etc/network/interfaces anyone know how to help?
[18:01] <silentContender> LjL, I did notice that my log files never log me trying to login unless I login with an invalid user/pass
[18:01] <Pepelargo> Hi
[18:02] <DasEi> silentContender: didn't you say it has a prob with the kernel ?
[18:02] <LjL> silentContender: echo $SHELL
[18:02] <Dreamglider> HEllo
[18:02] <silentContender> LjL, echo $SHELL = /bin/bash
[18:02] <pros977> ~~~~~~
[18:02] <silentContender> DasEi, not following. what had a problem with the kernel?
[18:02] <LjL> silentContender: so bash works. hm
[18:02] <Pepelargo> I want to upload several folders from a remote Ubuntu Server using a SSH terminal from my laptop. The thing is that I know that there is the ftp put command to upload 1 file, but I have several folders with hundreds of files..is there anyway to do so?
[18:03] <LjL> silentContender: he meant debsums complaining it cannot open it, but i suspect that's normal
[18:03] <shoi> can u download direct x on ubuntu? the only sites make u valadate windows xp
[18:03] <daftykins> Pepelargo, are you scp'ing ?
[18:03] <silentContender> LjL, Ok
[18:03] <Besogon> Tomorrow is International Women's Day. Happy, Love and Patience to women. ))))
[18:03] <daftykins> "scp -r foldername" would work well
[18:03] <Pepelargo> daftykins, sorry, scp'ing? what is that?
[18:03] <FaMott> Hmmm, I am really considering getting fluxbox on this computer, should I? over XFCE?
[18:03] <DasEi> ﻿(18:57:59) silentContender: LjL, just got "can't open linux-image-2.6.27-7 ..."
[18:03] <mickey> how do i mount a sidekick ? i did lsusb and got Bus 001 Device 028: ID 0da0:1102 Danger Research
[18:03] <crdlb> shoi: Direct X is part of windows; it won't work on anything else
[18:03] <daftykins> secure copy, copying folders to an SSH host from an SSH client
[18:04] <crdlb> shoi: that said, wine has a direct3d emulation layer using OpenGL
[18:04] <silentContender> DasEi, I'm checking if it's the one I'm using
[18:04] <Duff> help =|
[18:04] <LjL> silentContender: although i don't get that message myself if i run debsums...
[18:04] <daftykins> like this Pepelargo  scp -r foldername user@hostname:/place/to/put/
[18:04] <Unkown2084-394> hi, I got a problem with my unbuntu server install
[18:04] <Dr_willis_AAO> shoi,  installing directX to wine.. dosent work very well.
[18:04] <silentContender> DasEi, I'm using 2.6.27-11-generic
[18:04] <Unkown2084-394> can anyone help?
[18:04] <DasEi> silentContender: well, if you're in root-line, kernel has had to be found
[18:04] <LjL> silentContender: how about, since i don't really know what to try, you install chkrootkit and rkhunter and check whether you might have been hijacked?
[18:04] <Pepelargo> daftykins, what I want to do is upload files from a remote Ubuntu server to a ISP hosting, all from my laptop, (SSH to the Ubuntu server and from there move files to the hosing server)
[18:04] <Dr_willis_AAO> !appdb | shoi
[18:04] <Mahen> hello
[18:04] <silentContender> LjL, Ok
[18:05] <Dr_willis_AAO> shoi,  theres veraious wine info sites with tweaks for diffrent games
[18:05] <omar> no sure if there is anyone here
[18:05] <shoi> wine wont let me play wow... every thing is all black
[18:05] <LjL> shoi: try asking in #winehq
[18:05] <shoi> and iv tweaked it
[18:05] <daftykins> ah ok Pepelargo , i figured you may've meant FTP but wasn't sure, sorry
[18:05] <shoi> i did
[18:05] <Trijntje> Hi Mahen
[18:05] <jose> hi
[18:05] <Mahen> i have no problem
[18:05] <Unkown2084-394> I installed the latest ubunti image base install. I have open ssh installed and running... When I use putty in windows, I get the message that the connection was refused... Any idea what i am doing wrong?
[18:05] <Mahen> just spend some time here!!!
[18:06] <lbolla> hi all
[18:06] <LjL> silentContender: when someone asked if you disk might be full, i think i've missed the answer - might it be?
[18:06] <DasEi> silentContender:have you got a boot splash ?
[18:06] <Duff> como instalar o xchta?
[18:06] <Duff> como instalar o xcht?
[18:06] <LjL> !es | duff
[18:06] <Pepelargo> daftykins, well, actually the only way I have now to upload files from the remote ubuntu server to the hosting is using ftp, what I do is open a SSH terminal from my laptop to the ubuntu server, and then use the ftp command to upload to thehosting, but I cant do this one file by one, is there any way to do so faster or any better ftp tool that I can use?
[18:06] <silentContender> DasEi, I turned the splash off
[18:06] <Mahen> wats this: Myrtti sets mode -b *!*@210.13.97.81
[18:06] <lbolla> duff: use apt-get install xchat
[18:06] <DasEi> silentContender:and quite, too I assume ?
[18:07] <silentContender> LjL, My disk is 19gb used and 43 gb free
[18:07] <silentContender> DasEi, yes quite
[18:07] <daftykins> not sure i'm afraid Pepelargo , only FTP app i know on Linux is gftp the GUI program
[18:07] <eseven73> Mahen: it means an op is unbanning someone
[18:07] <silentContender> DasEi, should I turn off quite?
[18:07] <Unkown2084-394> I installed the latest ubunti image base install. I have open ssh installed and running... When I use putty in windows, I get the message that the connection was refused... Any idea what i am doing wrong?
[18:07] <thomc> Is there an app I that will log bandwidth used?
[18:07] <omar> hello anyone here
[18:08] <Pepelargo> daftykins, yeah but the Ubuntu server doesnt have gui
[18:08] <DasEi> silentContender:yes -no quite- ;; try df to check diskspace
[18:08] <eseven73> thomc:  give iptraf a try
[18:08] <daftykins> that's my point Pepelargo  ^_^
[18:08] <mickey> how do i mount a sidekick ? i did lsusb and got Bus 001 Device 028: ID 0da0:1102 Danger Research
[18:08] <Dr_willis_AAO> thomc,  'ntop' can do amazing things.. but maybe vast overkill
[18:08] <silentContender> DasEi, I used df to check that I had 19gb used and 43 gb free
[18:08] <DasEi> silentContender:comment quite (#) in menu.lst
[18:08] <Dr_willis_AAO> !info ntop
[18:08] <J2daosh> how do i make knetworkmanager manage my wlan0?
[18:08] <jacekowski> is there anything nopastelike in ubuntu repo?
[18:09] <eseven73> ntop is pretty slick
[18:09] <crdlb> jacekowski: pastebinit
[18:09] <DasEi> pastebinit, jacekowksi
[18:09] <LjL> !info pastebinit | jacekowski you mean like this?
[18:09] <jacekowski> LjL: i think so
[18:09] <silentContender> DasEi, done. I'm rebooting
[18:09] <thomc> eseven73, Dr_willis_AAO: I will investigate those options, thank you.
[18:09] <DasEi> silentContender: k
[18:10] <mickey> how do i mount a sidekick ? i did lsusb and got Bus 001 Device 028: ID 0da0:1102 Danger Research
[18:10] <Mahen> Mahen	hello all
[18:10] <Mahen> 11:08	Mahen	i need a program that shows what program is using my internet connection
[18:10] <Mahen> 	Mahen	bandwidth
[18:10] <DasEi> mickey: sidekick ?
[18:10] <sergio_> hola, alguien de habla ispana por el canal??/
[18:10] <J2daosh> how do i make networkmanager manage my network cards?!
[18:10] <cutterjohn_> daftykins well installed the ATI catalyst drivers and now have evrything going
[18:11] <Twigathy> Mahen: "iftop"?
[18:11] <daftykins> ah nice, was it just xorg-driver-fglrx or?
[18:11] <cutterjohn_> daftykins in XCHAT on 8.10 ight now...
[18:11] <silentContender> DasEi, saw nothing unusually.
[18:11] <_VIM_> !es | sergio_
[18:11] <silentContender> LjL, I have the 2 packages installed
[18:11] <DasEi> silentContender: you tried update/grade ?
[18:11] <silentContender> DasEi, Yes I've tried update/grade
[18:11] <cutterjohn_> daftykins, not sure the xorg.conf was empty, xorg.conf.failsafe was present, but I just built the catalyst 9.2 package and installed it then let it autoconfig and it worked
[18:11] <silentContender> DasEi, still can't login
[18:12] <LjL> silentContender: it's "chkrootkit" for one and "rkhunter -c" for the other. will take a while.
[18:12] <cutterjohn_> daftykins haven't tried anything other than the native 1680x1050 yet though
[18:12] <daftykins> nice cutterjohn_   :D
[18:12] <mickey> DasEi, yeah i hooked it up through the usb port and lsusb detects it but i tried mounting all the /dev/sda's and /dev/sdb's and nothin work
[18:12] <sergio_> gracias
[18:12] <silentContender> LjL, I can run it in recovery without trouble right?
[18:12] <Duff> »LjL«: to install xchat in ubuntu 8:04 am connected to the Internet?
[18:12] <Unkown2084-394> can I get some help?
[18:12] <DasEi> mickey: I don't know sidekick, is it a usb-drive ?
[18:12] <LjL> silentContender: to the best of my knowledge, yes
[18:12] <mickey> DasEi, yeah its usb drive
[18:13] <LjL> Duff: you need to be connected, yes
[18:13] <mickey> DasEi, it's a phone
[18:13] <thomc> I've been using vnstat to monitor bandwidth usage on my ethernet connection. When I compare vnstat's totals with those logged and published by the network admin there are big differences. What could be the reason?
[18:13] <DasEi> mickey: figure out it's devicename with sudo fdisk -l
[18:13] <Duff> »LjL«: not so here goes
[18:14] <Unkown2084-394> Anyone have an idea why i cant get ssh to work on my system?
[18:14] <Unkown2084-394> it keeps refusing the connection
[18:14] <andy_o> hi
[18:15] <SchmittyDoesIt> Unkown2084-394: what do you mean?
[18:15] <silentContender> LjL, so far nothing for chkrootkit except it flagged the user I created and never been able to log into
[18:15] <computer> hello
[18:15] <mickey> DasEi, well it shows all my filesystems like / swap, etc and the one that i dont see that is in use is /dev/sda but when i try to mount /dev/sda it says it's already in use
[18:15] <Unkown2084-394> when i try to connect to my server using ssh, it says the connection was refused
[18:15] <Unkown2084-394> i am using the putty client
[18:15] <alinutz> salut
[18:15] <alinutz> buna
[18:15] <alinutz> hi
[18:15] <silentContender> LjL, running rkhunter
[18:15] <alinutz> i am alin from romania
[18:16] <DasEi> mickey: type mount with no args to see where it's mounted
[18:16] <guest__> i am assol form sitlandia
[18:16] <SchmittyDoesIt> Unkown2084-394: did you start the ssh daemon?
[18:16] <cTn> hi guys, could i ask an little advanced question about wubi?
[18:16] <Unkown2084-394> i am using the latest base install of ubuntu. and the latest version of ssh
[18:16] <silentContender> LjL, two warnings (/usr/sbin/unhide and /usr/sbin/unhide-linux26)
[18:16] <silentContender> LjL, "Enter to continue", should I?
[18:16] <DasEi> silentContender: y
[18:16] <mickey> DasEi, i dont see that /dev/sda is mounted
[18:17] <DasEi> silentContender: few times
[18:17] <SchmittyDoesIt> Unkown2084-394: did you start the ssh daemon?
[18:17] <tiagowz> olá
[18:17] <_VIM_> !br | tiagowz
[18:17] <DasEi> mickey: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[18:17] <cTn> i am wondering, if i install ubuntu on my second partition (not the windows one) with wubi, when i reinstall windows, how do i restore the boot option for ubuntu?
[18:17] <SchmittyDoesIt> Unkown2084-394: /etc/init.d/sshd restart
[18:17] <DasEi> mickey: sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit
[18:17] <silentContender> LjL, have a warning for "Checking for running syslog daemon"
[18:17] <LjL> silentContender: yes
[18:18] <DasEi> mickey: give us url from last cmd
[18:18] <amikrop> Hello I get this when I run pacpl. Any help, please? error: could not find suitable application to decode: mp3
[18:18] <Unkown2084-394> sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start gives me an error that it doesnt exist... but when I sudo apt-get install openssh-client it says its already installed. I tried removing and reinstalling, and I get the same problem
[18:18] <SchmittyDoesIt> Unkown2084-394: no not ssh sshd
[18:18] <DasEi> mickey: mount | pastebinit
[18:18] <mickey> DasEi, http://pastebin.com/f27df2169
[18:18] <SchmittyDoesIt> 'sshd'
[18:18] <silentContender> LjL, it's done running
[18:18] <LjL> silentContender: i'm running it myself - some warnings are normal (are you on hardy?)
[18:18] <jtaji> Unkown2084-394: the package is openssh-server
[18:18] <cTn> i am wondering, if i install ubuntu on my second partition (not the windows one) with wubi, when i reinstall windows, how do i restore the boot option for ubuntu?
[18:18] <silentContender> LjL, yes
[18:18] <mickey> DasEi, http://pastebin.com/f4040afb4
[18:19] <Unkown2084-394> oh, ok, thanks. i am new to linux.. I will try that right now
[18:19] <DasEi> mickey: mounted on /media/HP
[18:19] <DasEi> mickey: cd /media/HP
[18:19] <SchmittyDoesIt> Unkown2084-394: /etc/init.d/sshd start          ...... you already have it
[18:19] <DasEi> mickey: ls
[18:19] <DasEi> mickey: files there ?
[18:19] <mickey> DasEi, /media/HP is windows
[18:20] <Unkown2084-394> there we go.. I got a connection now with puTTY. Thanks :)
[18:20] <amikrop> Hello, I get this when I run pacpl. Any help, please? error: could not find suitable application to decode: mp3
[18:20] <amikrop> What should I install?
[18:20] <SchmittyDoesIt> Unkown2084-394: no problem. not you want to edit the config to not allow rot login. I might aslo suggest changing the port too. : )
[18:20] <silentContender> LjL, what do I need to do?
[18:21] <DasEi> mickey: lsusb | pastebinit
[18:21] <unstable> Is firefox screwed up with the latest update?
[18:22] <LjL> silentContender: nothing special, the warnings you've got don't seem serious
[18:22] <DasEi> ﻿unstable: 8.04/8.10 not for me
[18:22] <LjL> silentContender: but i have no idea what to try next
[18:22] <silentContender> LjL, so why can't I login even from console?
[18:22] <LjL> silentContender: if i knew, i could probably have you fix it
[18:23] <mickey> DasEi, http://pastebin.com/m673ab7a3
[18:23] <geirha> SchmittyDoesIt, Unkown2084-394: root login is disabled by default, both locally and through ssh, and changing the port is just security by obscurity
[18:23] <_VIM_> SchmittyDoesIt: for some reason for me sudo /etc/init.d/sshd start/restart/stop or whatnot doesnt work but sudo /etc/init.d/ssh does it says its * Restarting OpenBSD Secure Shell server sshd      [ OK ]
[18:23] <amikrop> I get this when I run pacpl. Any help, please? error: could not find suitable application to decode: mp3
[18:23] <geirha> _VIM_: /etc/init.d/ssh is the correct one.
[18:23] <silentContender> LjL, would reinstalling the kernel help?  (I don't know if anything else controls the login)
[18:24] <_VIM_> ah
[18:24] <eanda> hello all-  having an issue trying to get an 8.10 client authorizing against an ldap server.  for 8.04 the was no issue using auth client config.  I now need to get this 8.10 client up and have followed directions preciely but I cannot connect.  any help here
[18:24] <r33tfux0r> Greetings!  I'm working with a fairly fresh install of 8.10.  My monitor resolutions have somehow gotten blown out.  I  tried checking the xorg.conf no type of reconfiguration is working for me right now.  I keep reading that the dpkg-reconfigure for wont fix it.  Any ideas?
[18:24] <geirha> _VIM_: The actual binary the script starts (and stops) is called sshd though
[18:24] <LjL> silentContender: i doubt it. rather you could try perhaps reinstalling "login"
[18:24] <_VIM_> geirha: interesting, well it works either way :)
[18:25] <silentContender> LjL, Ok
[18:25] <anatashinu> hi
[18:25] <DasEi> mickey: back in 2 min
[18:25] <anatashinu> hello?
[18:25] <silentContender> LjL, could I remove then install?
[18:25] <mickey> DasEi, ok
[18:26] <LjL> silentContender: no that's not a good idea, sudo "apt-get --reinstall install"
[18:26] <anatashinu> hey can somebody please help me with WOL?
[18:26] <LjL> silentContender: s/sudo/use/
[18:26] <silentContender> LjL, Ok
[18:26] <anatashinu> hello?
[18:27] <LjL> !ask | anatashinu
[18:27] <silentContender> LjL, I've reinstalling and going to reboot
[18:27] <PMantis> Hi guys. I played with the NVidia settings, and installed updates to my kids' 8.10 machine. How it boots to "Internal error: failed to initialize HAL!", and of course, I can't click OK. Steps to fix this?
[18:27] <LjL> silentContender: i doubt it will work, for what is worth
[18:27] <silentContender> LjL, same here.
[18:28] <zilleplus> does annyone has skype and wanna explane how to install a DNS server on ubuntu server edition
[18:28] <needcalendar> Is there a calendar app that's very similar to Google Calendar, but offline ?
[18:29] <J2daosh> anyone know of a good wifi detector application?
[18:29] <PMantis> zilleplus: That's bind. Google can help with bind how-to's
[18:29] <Twigathy> J2daosh: try aircrack-ng (Specifically airdump-ng and friends)
[18:29] <silentContender> LjL,  rebooting going to take awhile (fsck's running)
[18:29] <zilleplus> i tryed like 2 weeks and still nothing
[18:29] <technik_> needscalendar - did you try evolution
[18:29] <_VIM_> needcalendar: I thought Google just announced an Offline Google Calendar last week? Read it on Digg, or am I confused with somethign else?
[18:29] <LjL> silentContender: let it run - you never know
[18:30] <J2daosh> Twigathy: no i mean like a radar tool like on my wm6 phone
[18:30] <silentContender> LjL, I know
[18:30] <J2daosh> i have a tool that will point out wifi connections and where they are on a gui radar-like screen
[18:30] <Twigathy> J2daosh: er...no idea. You might have to write one. ;)
[18:30] <LjL> J2daosh: i have no idea how it works on your phone, but airdump definitely detects networks.
[18:30] <J2daosh> telling me exactly where the location of the AP is
[18:30] <LjL> J2daosh: how could it ever tell you the location of the AP?
[18:30] <J2daosh> LjL, finding them isn't the problem, its finding thier location that is
[18:31] <silentContender> LjL, I hope it fixes it (it's taking longer than usual)
[18:31] <J2daosh> because it uses signal strength to determine distance and direction
[18:31] <LjL> J2daosh: distance i understand (although VERY roughly), but i really can't see how it would measure direction
[18:31] <silentContender> LjL, no luck
[18:31] <LjL> J2daosh: doesn't it perhaps look it up on a GPS-user-contributed database on the internet?
[18:32] <J2daosh> so it shows a radar screen like you would see in a sub, and plots triangles for each ap
[18:32] <J2daosh> nope, turned off the phone gps
[18:32] <silentContender> LjL, ideas that I can look up later?
[18:32] <LjL> J2daosh: what's this program's name?
[18:32] <needcalendar> _VIM_: it's a read-only access to your online calendar; I want one that run outside the browser and stores all info on HD
[18:32] <J2daosh> lemme look it up again
[18:32] <J2daosh> brb
[18:32] <LjL> silentContender: "reinstall"?
[18:32] <silentContender> LjL, I was afraid of that.
[18:32] <LjL> silentContender: seriously, i can't think of anything. i can think of ways to make a reinstall less painful
[18:32] <JackJoe> What software can I install in order to control a laptop's fan speeds + the Intel Speedstep?
[18:33] <LjL> silentContender: also, current Ubuntu versions (probably not Hardy, though, not sure) have a "rescue" mode on the CD, but i've never used it
[18:33] <J2daosh> http://wm6.handster.com/software.php?id=3066&for=WM6
[18:33] <J2daosh> theres a simliar one
[18:33] <silentContender> LjL, how can it be less painful?  I'm listening.
[18:33] <J2daosh> ill find the link to the free one that is slightly less advanced but has simliar gui and options
[18:33] <LjL> !cloning > silentContender    (silentContender, see the private message from ubottu)
[18:33] <polydektes> ubuntu used much on servers?
[18:34] <LjL> silentContender: do you have a separate home partition?
[18:34] <daftykins> ubuntu server is yeah
[18:34] <DasEi> mickey: I never used a sidekick, though lsub finds it in danger (that's the one)
[18:34] <chrake> hey friends. got a problem with setting up the right resolution on my laptop. should be 1280x800 but that alternative is not available
[18:34] <mickey> DasEi, yeah i just cant get it to mount through /dev sense it doens't do it automatically
[18:35] <kop_> polydektes, at least one here :-) although I suspect you mean commercial use
[18:35] <silentContender> LjL, I do not
[18:35] <J2daosh> here LjL, http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-wififofum-v2-2.html
[18:35] <wolter> chrake, which resolutions are you shown?
[18:35] <polydektes> kop_,  right yes
[18:35] <J2daosh> thats what i use on my phone
[18:35] <technik_> chrake: you gotta thinkpad?
 archive.org uses ubuntu on almost 1500 servers
[18:35] <polydektes> about to put kubuntu on me laptop
[18:35] <kop_> polydektes, limited at this time but gaining acceptance
[18:35] <polydektes> but i already have centos on it
[18:36] <polydektes> better than Redhat?
[18:36] <chrake> 1024x768, 800x600, 640x480
[18:36] <wolter> chrake, you have your graphics drivers installed?
[18:36] <J2daosh> it can use GPS coordinates, but my phones GPS is disabled so it must use some other method of calculations
[18:36] <kop_> polydektes, only an opinion
[18:36] <LjL> J2daosh: if it's not using GPS, then it's using GSM cell based location. can it work at all with the internet disabled?
[18:36] <siznax> we're running 8.10 high-availability
[18:36] <mads-hk> Goodevening :) Does anyone know if WUBI is out for 9.04 alpha 5? :)
[18:36] <chrake> got an Intel GMA 4500 MHD card
[18:36] <technik_> chrake: if you gotta thinkpad go on thinkwiki.org they have write ups about it
[18:36] <J2daosh> yep
[18:36] <technik_> it should apply to other laptops with GMA 4500 MHD too
[18:37] <technik_> lemme dig up the link for you
[18:37] <LjL> J2daosh, because i assure you it just can't be done without some means of geolocating (GPS or GSM). you'd have to triangulate, and you can't triangulate with only one card.
[18:37] <chrake> no it's an LG510, but it has the same graphics card
[18:37] <chrake> I'll take a look. thanks a bunch!
[18:37] <technik_> it fixed both gdm login screen and X server for me
[18:37] <silentContender> LjL, Thanks for the help.  I guess I'll reinstall
[18:37] <siznax> fan control on powerpc (PowerBook G4)?
[18:37] <J2daosh> then it must be using the GSM cell towers as location points
[18:37] <J2daosh> which would explain why i cant find something simliar for linux
[18:38] <J2daosh> because my laptop doesn't connect to GSM towers :(
[18:38] <LjL> J2daosh: quite likely... but it would still need access to some database to know where the towers and hotspots are to begin with.
[18:38] <H4ck3r07> so what is the terminal command to disable a user
[18:38]  * J2daosh shrugs i use t-mobile...
[18:38] <wolter> !who | chrake
[18:38] <Dr_willis_AAO> H4ck3r07,  disable or DELETE?
[18:38] <gladiator> hi. how can i configure the visual effects on ubuntu
[18:38] <H4ck3r07> disable so they cant logon
[18:39] <arvind_khadri> !ccsm > gladiator
[18:39] <technik_> chrake: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Install_Ubuntu_8.10_(Intrepid_Ibex)_on_a_Thinkpad_T400
[18:39] <pradyumnacster> hello all
[18:39] <technik_> check Installing LCD Resolution Fix on the above mentioned page
[18:39] <pradyumnacster> i m a student from india
[18:40] <arvind_khadri> !hi | pradyumnacster
[18:40] <anatashinu> I need help setting up WOL please
[18:40] <LjL> J2daosh: besides are you sure the radar screen is not, err, fake? because i can't see any article actually claiming it *locates* them for real
[18:40] <pradyumnacster> i was wondering if there was any keyboard type of software that support indic text input
[18:40] <J2daosh> well the radar image is just a gui, but i does in fact plot direction and psuedo distance on the "map"
[18:41] <arvind_khadri> pradyumnacster, you mean something that assists you in typing?
[18:41] <LjL> J2daosh: but are they real? are you positive it points to the *real* direction?
[18:41] <DasEi> mickey : the only thing I found is that there's a prop software to connect throught ssh to the ubu-pc, but ask for someone else using it here
[18:41] <unitedpotsmokers> hello guys, im using ubuntu now. and also windows which i run it with virtualbox. how to access to drive e (in virtualbox) because i only see a drive C, drive A and Cdrom drive only?
[18:41] <daparent> Anyone know how to bring down a domain through virsh when shutdown doesn't seem to be working?
[18:41] <J2daosh> should i take a movie and up it somewhere for you? :P
[18:41] <J2daosh> its pretty cool actually :P
[18:42] <DasEi> unitedpotsmokers: you will have to define a shared folder for ubu n win
[18:42] <arvind_khadri> !virtualbox | unitedpotsmokers
[18:42] <LjL> J2daosh, i'll trust your judgement... i know there do exist some services that do what you describe, but they use an internet connection, and either a GPS or a GSM tower database
[18:42] <gladiator> thanks
[18:43] <siznax> sorry for asking again: anyone know how to control fans on PowerBook G4? just installed Xubuntu (yay!) but my fan runs on high constantly.
[18:43] <arvind_khadri> gladiator, np
[18:43] <J2daosh> yeah not my phone. im not paying 30 a month for internet on my phone when i get free wifi on my laptop :P
[18:43] <unitedpotsmokers> yea... before i start the virtualbox, i also define a location of drive e. but where to find the drive? i didnt show ...
[18:43] <LjL> J2daosh: you could probably do it on linux if you connect a gps, although i can't see anything in the repos to do that
[18:43] <arvind_khadri> unitedpotsmokers, look into the setup details it maybe of some help
[18:44] <f0urtyfive> Anyone here run a tri / quad head setup?
[18:44] <LjL> J2daosh: internet access is usually enabled (on a pay-by-byte basis) even if you don't have a specifi contract, you know
[18:44]  * f0urtyfive is looking for an example xorg.conf
[18:44] <J2daosh> nope, had it turned off so i dont get charaged for it
[18:44] <J2daosh> they tried to get me with a $72 add on my first month with the smart phone because i thought wap was free lol
[18:45]  * daparent kill -9's kvm - that'll teach it
[18:45] <I1> which is the apt command equivalent to yum list all command????
[18:45] <J2daosh> me and tmo had alittle fight about that one
[18:45] <avraam> hi!
[18:45] <arvind_khadri> I1, aptitude search <package name>
[18:45] <unitedpotsmokers> arvind_khadri,  it is complicated.. i dont understand my friend..
[18:46] <arvind_khadri> !hi | avraam
[18:46] <ray_ray> I1 sudo aptitude
[18:46] <I1> but i don't want to search a specific package but i want to know which are the packages installed and which not....
[18:46] <LjL> J2daosh: actually there is another way it might do it
[18:46] <ray_ray> I1 sudo aptitude
[18:46] <avraam> hey, people! sorry... my english is not very well (i'm russian). but i have strange trouble with wpa_supplicant
[18:47] <J2daosh> im listening
[18:47] <anilomkar> Hi all, My Wifi asks for the password everytime it disconnects... Can you please help me out in this..
[18:47] <corey> I am have trouble with video streams. It will pause for a second or so and fast forward to keep up with the audio. How do I fix this?
[18:47] <LjL> J2daosh: it might just triangulate various wifi spots, without triangulating the GSM cells themselves. though this would mean (unless it connects to the internet) it has a big *built-in* database of network ssids
[18:48] <corey> I am have trouble with video streams. It will pause for a second or so and fast forward to keep up with the audio. How do I fix this?
[18:48] <oskar-> anilomkar, which authentication mechanism do you use=
[18:48] <J2daosh> its possible i suppose, but with only 12 megs of usable memory after windows is booted, i cant imagine the DB could be that big
[18:49] <LinuxUser_> Hi do some of you guys know how you get those "gadgets" on your desktop, where you can see your CPU and hard drive usage ..
[18:49] <DasEi> ﻿corey: laggy connection / slow server ? what kind of streams ?
[18:49] <anilomkar> oskar-, Its WPA2
[18:49] <corey> dasei: youtube and the like. I do wait for it to buffer
[18:49] <DasEi> LinuxUser_: chckout conky
[18:50] <LinuxUser_> DasEi:  conky ?
[18:50] <DasEi> corey:videodownloadhelper, extension for ff, d/l it an watch with vlc
[18:50] <avraam> ubottu: do u know abt wpa_supplicant?
[18:50] <LjL> J2daosh: yes, that puzzles me a bit. see https://forums.hackervoice.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=680 for a similar idea
[18:50] <corey> dasei: Thats not very doable for websurfing
[18:50] <daredevilthere> Hey Any good c++ IDE in ubuntu
[18:50] <oskar-> anilomkar, with psk or eap?
[18:50] <LjL> J2daosh: perhaps you need to move around a bit before it gives you something resembling an accurate direction?
[18:51] <DasEi> LinuxUser_: is a monitoring gui, that does what you want
[18:51] <Supersaiyan_IV> daredevilthere, eclipse with c++ sdk plugin
[18:51] <Supersaiyan_IV> daredevilthere, or anjuta afaik
[18:51] <jkoltner> Hi guys... quick question... when you install new packages such as MySQL or Apache, part of the package installation includes creating new users (such as "mysql" and "www-data").  Are those accounts created in some reasonably secure manner?  I.e., are they given random passwords or somesuch?
[18:51] <LinuxUser_> DasEi:  Niiiiicee .. ill check it out, thanks !
[18:51] <J2daosh> when you first start the app it plots them, then they move depending on if you move
[18:51] <corey> dasei: I have no trouble at all with flash
[18:51] <daredevilthere> Supersaiyan_IV: is it easy elipse or elipse
[18:51] <anilomkar> oskar-, PSK
[18:51] <J2daosh> like when im walking through a building, i can see what rooms have a wifi router/ap
[18:51] <DasEi> corey: it does other content, too
[18:52] <DasEi> corey: what's your connection's speed ?
[18:52] <corey> DasEi: 3.5
[18:52] <Cyclist> Hi, folks!
[18:52] <Cyclist> Does anyone know how to reenable the autostart function for the CD ROM when a music CD is inserted into the drive?
[18:52] <Supersaiyan_IV> daredevilthere, eclipse is the best choice really, most advanced, best for java development though
[18:52] <jkoltner> daredevilthere: Komodo if a good (but not free) IDE, although they do give away the editor (KomodoEdit) for free, which includes syntax highlighting and project management.
[18:52] <LjL> J2daosh: but does it already plot them in their correct location even before you've started moving?
[18:52] <fr500> has anyone ever had empathy delivering messages to the wrong contact?
[18:53] <DasEi> corey: check at speedmeter or similar, make sure not have apps eating bandwith (downloads) in the background
[18:53] <daredevilthere> jkoltner: thanks:)
[18:53] <J2daosh> yep
[18:53] <kiris> xk
[18:53] <oskar-> anilomkar, then it's different to my problem ;) i had one with eap and fast re-authentication, which should be solved in 0.6.8. you can try to start wpa_supplicant manually with -dd and look at the output to find the reason for the error
[18:53] <LjL> J2daosh: i really don't think that's possible without a database
[18:53] <gladiator> arvind_khadri: i installed the compiz manager. but i cant seem to be able to find what i am looking for. All i need to do is that i need to modify the time it takes to zoom the window from the showcase when i press the window+tab buttons
[18:53] <daredevilthere> Supersaiyan_IV: ok for eclipse do i need to install elipse first or just elipse for c++
[18:53] <J2daosh> when i load the app, if i was in an apartment building persay, it would show me what rooms have wifi (i would have to figure out second or first floor)
[18:53] <corey> DasEi: OK but, this is a fresh install and this is the only program I have DL'd so far
[18:54] <jkoltner> daredevilthere: Supersaiyan is right that Eclipse is good, although it's kinda like emacs in that it's *so* powerful/flexible/configurable that I don't think it's always the best IDE to start with
[18:54] <Supersaiyan_IV> daredevilthere, will check one sec
[18:54] <LinuxUser_> DasEi:  Hi again, nowi have saved the conky-1.6.1.tar.bz2 .. but how do i install the tar.bz2 file ? :O
[18:54] <Supersaiyan_IV> daredevilthere, sudo apt-get install eclipse-cdt
[18:54] <speart> hi all ubntuers :P
[18:55] <Supersaiyan_IV> daredevilthere, it will take care of selecting all the dependent pacages
[18:55] <DasEi> corey: some contents are also too slow server-side, d/l them is a very good sulution, theere also was this prog.. moment
[18:55] <daredevilthere> Supersaiyan_IV: really thanks:)
[18:55] <DasEi> LinuxUser_: suda apt-get install conky
[18:55] <myky71> ciao come va?
[18:55] <Belinrahs> can someone name me a free ISO recorder for XP that will do bootable discs too?
[18:55] <LinuxUser_> DasEi:  alright thanks !
[18:56] <J2daosh> ok im hopping out for lunch, ill be back later
[18:56] <LjL> !it | myky71
[18:56] <Supersaiyan_IV> LinuxUser_, you shouldn't compile conky, latest is unstable anyway, do what DasEi said
[18:56] <corey> dasei: i did sudo apt-get install speedometer but, I cant find it. Wich folder is it in?
[18:57] <excaliber27> hmm
[18:57] <speart> I got 4 gb of ram and ubuntu 64 bit, but it throws an error about IOMMU
[18:57] <speart> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-hardware-18/your-bios-doesnt-leave-a-aperture-memory-hole-624088/
[18:57] <speart> nm
[18:57] <FloodBot2> speart: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:57] <LinuxUser_> Supersaiyan_IV: What do you mean ?
[18:57] <DasEi> corey: nope that, google for dsl-speedtest, check your connection there;; prog's name was youtube-dl
[18:57] <arvind_khadri> gladiator, no idea... am sorry , i dont use that plugin ... :|
[18:58] <jumar> for new users i would advise xfce, its very simple
[18:58] <LinuxUser_> Supersaiyan_IV: i have downloaded the 1.6 .. and i installed it by writting sudo apt-get install conky
[18:58] <webPragmatist> Can someone tell me which NVidia drive I should use... I have tried the version 177 and x won't start... I have a 7800gts
[18:58] <webPragmatist> driver* ... or point me to a guide
[18:58] <corey> dasei: I did do speedtest! Thats how I knew that my connection is 3.5mbps
[18:58] <LinuxUser_> Supersaiyan_IV: no it was 1.6.1 version, aint that stable ?
[18:58] <Belinrahs> Someone I need a free ISO burner software for WinXP that work burn bootable discs. I'm trying to burn the Ubuntu x64 disc and I just wasted two discs that didn't work. I tried a program called CDBurnerXP
[18:58] <DasEi> LinuxUser_: you can delete the manual d/l, it#s in the repos, see above
[18:59] <corey> belinrahs: magic iso burn
[18:59] <jumar> deepburner for winxp
[18:59] <technik_> Belinrahs: give ImgBurn a shot - http://www.imgburn.com
[18:59] <DasEi> corey: should be enough for most
[18:59] <Belinrahs> alrighty thanks
[18:59] <Supersaiyan_IV> LinuxUser_, no, you downloaded 1.6.1 tar.gz, didn't know how to install it. Then used sudo apt-get install conky, instead to download&install it automatically
[18:59] <technik_> why don't you put Ubuntu on flashkey with unetbootin
[18:59] <Supersaiyan_IV> LinuxUser_, technically you downloaded it twice
[19:00] <technik_> can your computer boot from usb devices
[19:00] <Belinrahs> too much effort, I have blank discs anyways
[19:00] <gladiator> arvind_khadri: ok no problem. thanks anyways.
[19:00] <Belinrahs> yes
[19:00] <LinuxUser_> Supersaiyan_IV: Hm alright , how shoukd i have done then ?
[19:00] <technik_> oh I c
[19:00] <DasEi> corey: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=547848    ,post#9
[19:00] <Gartral> i can't get dvd playback working in ubuntu, it will play for a few minutes and then the output goes weird, sounds goes on tho
[19:00] <corey> dasei: I am certain it is something wrong with the software I have because vista has no probs with youtube
[19:00] <jumar> try to set ios to boot from usb
[19:00] <jumar> "bios"
[19:00] <Supersaiyan_IV> LinuxUser_, by always using sudo apt-get install <app here>
[19:00] <arvind_khadri> gladiator, welcome... ask #compiz-fusion
[19:00] <technik_> anyhoo check it out: http://lubi.sourceforge.net/unetbootin.html
[19:00] <Supersaiyan_IV> ;)
[19:00] <DasEi> corey: flashplugin installed ? mozpluuger ? codecs ?
[19:00] <LinuxUser_> Supersaiyan_IV: i tried that but it couldnt ..
[19:01] <danes_> hello, how can I install grub in a usb? Is it possible to add multiple distributions in the same partition?
[19:01] <Supersaiyan_IV> LinuxUser_, conky didn't start?
[19:01] <Belinrahs> LinuxUser_: error message?
[19:01] <LinuxUser_> Supersaiyan_IV: but now i know that .. but i have got it to my desktop now, but where can i find it, where is it installed, i mean where can i always find it again ?
[19:01] <jumar> master boot record? on usb, that one i cant answer but i wanna kno,
[19:01] <LinuxUser_> Belinrahs:  Yes, but it works now. :)
[19:01] <Supersaiyan_IV> LinuxUser_, type "conky" in the terminal
[19:02] <DasEi> ﻿ danes_: ﻿
[19:02] <DasEi> (20:01:38) ubottu: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[19:02] <LinuxUser_> Supersaiyan_IV: it did after i wrote Conky interminal
[19:02] <DasEi> ﻿ danes_: ﻿differnt partis for different os'es
[19:02] <Supersaiyan_IV> LinuxUser_, you want some sort of icon you mean?
[19:02] <LinuxUser_> Supersaiyan_IV: yes i have done that, but how can i get on my desktop the icon ?
[19:02] <LinuxUser_> Supersaiyan_IV: yes exactly
[19:02] <rbil> Last attempt at getting help ...
[19:02] <webPragmatist> is there a shortcut to close xserver and end up in teh term?
[19:02] <rbil> A VERY weird prob with nautilus ... left pane tree view hangs, locks up Nautilus ... however run Nautilus with a different user account and works fine
[19:02] <Supersaiyan_IV> LinuxUser_, i see :)
[19:02] <DasEi> LinuxUser_: no capital, conky
[19:02] <webPragmatist> and then also how to get back in heh
[19:03] <LinuxUser_> Supersaiyan_IV: you know how :) ?
[19:03] <danes_> I want to install ubcd, ubuntu and crubchbang, would you suggest to create multiple partitions?
[19:03] <LinuxUser_> DasEi:  what ?
[19:03] <jumar> check options in gconf for nautilus
[19:03] <Supersaiyan_IV> LinuxUser_, right click on the gnome panel → create custom launcher → where command is , type conky
[19:03] <DasEi> LinuxUser_: can you satrt conky now ?
[19:03] <siznax> got the fan to stop on my powerbook g4 by putting it on ice - literally. it's sitting on a gel pak from walgreens. nice n cool.
[19:04] <siznax> my cpu load is low.
[19:04] <Supersaiyan_IV> LinuxUser_, every time you click the icon it will run conky by using the command inputted
[19:04] <siznax> so, why is it getting so hot?
[19:04] <LinuxUser_> Supersaiyan_IV: Ohhh . i have done that know .. thanks man
[19:04] <Supersaiyan_IV> LinuxUser_, np ;)
[19:04] <oskar-> siznax, maybe only the threshold values are too low
[19:04] <kantxx> anyone know why firefox 3.0.x crashes when i try to move my bookmarks
[19:04] <LinuxUser_> Supersaiyan_IV: yes didnt know that, thank, i just keep learning every day, its wonderfull :) !
[19:04] <jumar> but that ice, it gets steamy aroud so its bad for a machine
[19:05] <polydektes> Lordy
[19:05] <LinuxUser_> DasEi:  yes it works :)
[19:05] <siznax> oskar: how do i change the threshold values?
[19:05] <Supersaiyan_IV> LinuxUser_, have you tried customizing the conky configuration file yet?
[19:05] <polydektes> this is a less than great linux version
[19:05] <polydektes> just managed to get the live cd working
[19:05] <oskar-> siznax, i have no clue ;)
[19:05] <polydektes> this is not impressive at all
[19:05] <LinuxUser_> Supersaiyan_IV: no, im bussy writing to you ;) .. bnut i will try that now :)
[19:05] <Supersaiyan_IV> LinuxUser_, there's an awesome thread about it here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=281865&highlight=conkyrc
[19:05] <Supersaiyan_IV> LinuxUser_, you can even make conky show you live rss feeds
[19:06] <webPragmatist> Is there a howto install the .run package for nvidia drivers... I am just wondering the correct way to close X and run the instalelr
[19:06] <LinuxUser_> Supersaiyan_IV: seriously :O ? thanks man, ill try it know :)
[19:06] <louis```> Hi i cant connecting to my ubuntu the reason is this: Your Session only lasted less than 10 seconds. If you have not loogged ouyt yourself, this could mean that there is some installation problem or that you may be out of diskpace. Try logging in weith one the failsafe sessions to see if you canfix this problem.
[19:07] <Dykam> Need to change a piece of text in multiple files in a single folder to another string, is there a program for it? or just gedit by had
[19:07] <Dykam> hadn
[19:07] <LinuxUser_> Supersaiyan_IV: shit, when i click on the launcher i made for it it says " Failed to execute child process "Conky" (No such file or directory) "
[19:07] <Belinrahs> Is Ubuntu fully working with multiple displays?
[19:08] <Belinrahs> i want to extend my desktop to monitor 2
[19:08] <Belinrahs> not reflect it
[19:08] <louis```> Hi i cant connecting to my ubuntu the reason is this: Your Session only lasted less than 10 seconds. If you have not loogged ouyt yourself, this could mean that there is some installation problem or that you may be out of diskpace. Try logging in weith one the failsafe sessions to see if you canfix this problem.
[19:08] <DasEi> ﻿LinuxUser_:conky <> Conky, capital ^
[19:08] <jumar> Multiple displays, yeah, but have to do some modifications to xorg.conf
[19:08] <jumar> ???
[19:08] <Supersaiyan_IV> LinuxUser_, you wrote Conky with a capital C
[19:08] <jumar> its not always easy
[19:08] <Supersaiyan_IV> LinuxUser_, commands are case sensitive :P
[19:08] <Unkown2084-394> got a quick question... I want to add permissions so that my username can change the contents of the /etc/www folder... How do i setup the chmod to do this correctly?
[19:08] <louis```> help me please
[19:08] <Unkown2084-394> should be /var/www
[19:08] <LinuxUser_> Supersaiyan_IV: seriouisly, damn it, that i didnt know either
[19:09] <sridhar> louis``` looks like you lost your dbus-1 folder
[19:09] <DasEi> ﻿louis```:that happens at bootup ?
[19:09] <sridhar> try fixing that up
[19:09] <LinuxUser_> Supersaiyan_IV: haha yes now it works :P
[19:09] <Supersaiyan_IV> :)
[19:09] <louis```> how sridhar ?
[19:09] <LinuxUser_> Supersaiyan_IV: well, ill just check the guide out :)
[19:09] <sridhar> put in your ubuntu cd
[19:10] <Cyclist> Hi, folks!
[19:10] <Cyclist>  Does anyone know how to reenable the autostart function for the CD ROM when a music CD is inserted into the drive?
[19:10] <jumar> Belinrahs, you got nvidia or ati?
[19:10] <Belinrahs> nvidia
[19:10] <louis```> mm i need to reinstall all my system ?
[19:10] <sridhar> no no u just log in with your xlogin terminal
[19:10] <louis```> sridhar
[19:10] <louis```> im in terminal
[19:10] <dinsdale07> What should I do if I want KDE 4.2:    8.10 and upgrade KDE or 9.04 alpha and upgrade ubuntu along the way?
[19:10] <sridhar> and see whether you have your dbus-1 folder
[19:10] <LinuxUser_> Supersaiyan_IV: i can see a lot of codes in there, is it those i should use to make my conky cool ? :)
[19:10] <minche> hello
[19:10] <jumar> Then you should check nvidia-settings, and find a manual for it, because usually you have to be a superuser to do that
[19:11] <Belinrahs> jumar, it's an NVIDIA GeForce 9500GT
[19:11] <minche> can anyone help me to solve this new flash update problem?
[19:11] <minche> please
[19:11] <Belinrahs> alright
[19:11] <jumar> which card, maybe i can send a link
[19:11] <DasEi> ﻿louis```:use df to check your diskspace
[19:11] <Belinrahs> geforce 9500gt
[19:11] <LinuxUser_> Supersaiyan_IV: i can see a lot of codes in there, is it those i should use to make my conky cool ? :)
[19:12] <dinsdale07> Can I update a ubuntu alpha version to the release version without reinstalling?
[19:12] <sridhar> check out whether you have you dbus-1 folder in the /etc folder
[19:12] <minche> =(
[19:12] <jkoltner> Does anyone happen to know, in /etc/shadow, you have UserName:EncryptedPassword, what "!" for the encrypted password means?  (I'm aware that "*" is for a disabled account and normally of course you get gibberish for real passwords.)
[19:12] <dinsdale07> what's your flash problem minche
[19:12] <minche> it's not working
[19:12] <minche> when i donwloaded the new update
[19:13] <dinsdale07> ur on which ubuntu version?
[19:13] <sridhar> louis r u der
[19:13] <minche> 8.10
[19:13] <Supersaiyan_IV> LinuxUser_, ah, was afk for a sec, yes most of those
[19:13] <zilleplus> mysql -u root -p       CREATE DATABASE moodle DEFAULT CHARACTER SET utf8 COLLATE utf8_unicode_ci
[19:13] <zilleplus> doesn't go
[19:14] <Supersaiyan_IV> LinuxUser_, i'll get you some pages that will explain the different commands
[19:14] <zilleplus> you have an error in your SQL syntax
[19:14] <jumar> check this out Belinrahs, it worked for me as i recall: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4977542
[19:14] <LinuxUser_> Supersaiyan_IV: ohh its okay, np at all ;) .. ohh thanks man !
[19:14] <Supersaiyan_IV> LinuxUser_, http://conky.sourceforge.net/variables.html http://conky.sourceforge.net/config_settings.html
[19:14] <dinsdale07> hm, I'm on 8.04 and i386.
[19:14] <knut> hi, how can i create a live cd from my existing ubuntu with all themes etc???
[19:14] <Belinrahs> alright thanks Jumar
[19:15] <jumar> if something goes wrong you have to copy the backup file
[19:15] <jumar> you should read any forums you find, for hazards
[19:15] <Belinrahs> jumar: looks kind of buggy =(
[19:16] <LinuxUser_> Supersaiyan_IV: yes that makes sentce actually .. but, shall i just cope paste on of those codes there were posted and then what :) ?
[19:16] <Supersaiyan_IV> LinuxUser_, configsettings will set in which mode conky should run, variables are used to define what conky should display (contents)
[19:16] <louiscvh> DasEi im sorry disconnected i have freespace 14 % use space..
[19:16] <Supersaiyan_IV> LinuxUser_, then what? PROFIT :P
[19:16] <LinuxUser_> Supersaiyan_IV: Haha :D !
[19:17] <LinuxUser_> Supersaiyan_IV: But where should i pase those codes :) ?
[19:17] <louiscvh> Hi i cant connecting to my ubuntu the reason is this: Your Session only lasted less than 10 seconds. If you have not loogged ouyt yourself, this could mean that there is some installation problem or that you may be out of diskpace. Try logging in weith one the failsafe sessions to see if you canfix this problem.
[19:17] <jumar> Belinrahs, you have to decide wether its TwinView or Dual Head, i would advice Dual Head if you got Compiz running
[19:17] <LinuxUser_> Supersaiyan_IV: Do you have conky , if you have, which code do you have ?
[19:17] <Supersaiyan_IV> LinuxUser_, into a file /home/<youruser>/.conkyrc
[19:17] <LarsAAaa> Hello!
[19:17] <Belinrahs> aye alright jumar
[19:17] <Supersaiyan_IV> LinuxUser_, i'll pastebin it
[19:17] <malikyoda> anyone here own an eee pc?
[19:17] <DasEi> louiscvh: sudo rm -r ﻿~/.local/share/Trash/* to empty trashbin, maybe cd there before, if unsure about valuable content
[19:18] <Myrtti> DasEi: why *sudo*
[19:18] <Unkown2084-394> I cant seem to be able to add myself to allow me to modify the /var/www folder. I tried usermod -a -g www-data username but it doesnt add it to my user permissions
[19:18] <LinuxUser_> Supersaiyan_IV: alright .. how do i make that file, in what ?+
[19:18] <DasEi> louiscvh: how much ram do you use ?
[19:18]  * _Brian_ boots ubuntu on his Nokia N800 :)
[19:18] <jumar> yeah, and TwinView works without super user mode, you can always switch back to that, its more secure
[19:18] <LinuxUser_> Supersaiyan_IV: in an empty file ?
[19:18] <Supersaiyan_IV> linenoise, http://pastebin.com/m1125becf
[19:19] <SiebaZ> hey guys
[19:19] <DasEi> Myrtti: to prevent it from stopping due to permission-porblems
[19:19] <oskar-> Unkown2084-394, log out and in again
[19:19] <Myrtti> DasEi: that's begging for trouble
[19:19] <malikyoda> is swap space really a bad thing on an eeepc?
[19:19] <SiebaZ> is there someone who could help me installing my microtek scanner?
[19:19] <musikgoat|main> malikyoda: yes!
[19:19] <Supersaiyan_IV> LinuxUser_, create a file named ".conkyrc" in your homefolder, and paste the contents
[19:19] <musikgoat|main> malikyoda: don't put swap on an SSD
[19:19] <_VIM_> pastebin the contents
[19:20] <malikyoda> ok i didn
[19:20] <_VIM_> dont paste it here LinuxUser_
[19:20] <malikyoda> 't
[19:20] <sridhar> what is crontab
[19:20] <Unkown2084-394> I cant seem to be able to add myself to allow me to modify the /var/www folder. I tried usermod -a -g www-data username but it doesnt add it to my user permissions
[19:20] <malikyoda> just wanted be sure
[19:20] <Supersaiyan_IV> LinuxUser_, its the file thats loaded on default when conky starts
[19:20] <oskar-> !crontab | sridhar
[19:20] <musikgoat|main> malikyoda: as long as you have 2gb ram, the benefits of swap are negligible anyway
[19:20] <LinuxUser_> _VIM_:  Hey again :) .. what u mean :) ?
[19:20] <_VIM_> !pastebin | LinuxUser_
[19:20] <malikyoda> I only have 1gb
[19:21] <sridhar> thanks oskar
[19:21] <malikyoda> but I don't want all the writing to the ssd
[19:21] <jumar> no, i got 3gigs of ram, and swap comes handy when i do some hard rendering in 3d
[19:21] <LinuxUser_> Supersaiyan_IV: alright .. ill try it
[19:21] <jumar> should have at leat 1 gigs
[19:21] <zilleplus> how do i start up phpMyAdmin????
[19:21] <musikgoat|main> malikyoda: is it an atom version or centrino version?
[19:21] <malikyoda> celeron
[19:21] <H3l1c0pt3r> I am wondering, if there is just the launcher for awn. I have the latest trunk version, and I dont want to add 10 different single launchers with their own icons, I have the launchers all set the way i want i just dont want the task manager with it
[19:21] <sridhar> how do i become expert in ubuntu
[19:21] <malikyoda> centrino i suppose
[19:21] <zilleplus> how do i start up phpMyAdmin in ubuntu server???
[19:22] <malikyoda> it's 1st gen
[19:22] <zilleplus> how do i start up phpMyAdmin in ubuntu server??
[19:22] <musikgoat|main> malikyoda: you could probably benefit from 2gb when you don't have swap, but it isn't going to be bad not having it
[19:22] <_VIM_> sridhar: a lot of reading and trial and error
[19:22] <Supersaiyan_IV> sridhar, by admitting you're not an expert but try anyway
[19:22] <jumar> sridhar... read a lot of manuals and experiment, and always have the phone number of a real hardcore expert
[19:22] <jumar> in linux
[19:22] <LinuxUser_> Supersaiyan_IV: know i got a file on my desktop named " conky.conkyrc " now what :) ?
[19:22] <musikgoat|main> sridhar: jumar's advice +1
[19:22] <malikyoda> I've already upgraded from 512MB to 1GB
[19:23] <anahata> hi
[19:23] <malikyoda> if the price of a 2gb sim is cheap enough maybe I will
[19:23] <deany> i know its not ubuntu related, but how can i get recordmydesktop to record smoothly? ive set it to 30fps and "full shots".. still choppy as hell.. (p4 3gig/HT, 1gig ram, compiz enabled ati 9.2 driver)
[19:23] <Supersaiyan_IV> LinuxUser_, it should be named ".conkyrc", rename it, then copy it into your home folder
[19:23] <musikgoat|main> malikyoda: yeah?  1GB is good for that system, but just as long as you are not running alot of concurrent applications
[19:23] <anahata> is the ubuntu kung fu book good for overall or just extra tips for ubuntu? is it enough for me, along with pocket guide, or do i need more if i want a comprehensive guide?
[19:23] <sfire> does anyone know how to get my removable drives to mount after the PC goes to sleep?  They just disappear and I cannot get access to them without restarting
[19:23] <malikyoda> na
[19:24] <anahata> i'm gonna get the kung fu one from the library today probably
[19:24] <_VIM_> oh that's a good book anahata
[19:24] <_VIM_> i have it
[19:24] <malikyoda> I use it to surf the web, a lil word processing thats about it
[19:24] <DasEi> Myrtti: begging for trouble ?
[19:24] <DasEi> louiscvh:?
[19:24] <malikyoda> anyone have a conkyfile that shows the local weather
[19:24] <LinuxUser_> Supersaiyan_IV: The full name of it are "conky.conkyrc" ... should i just rename it to "conkyrc" ?
[19:24] <anon> hi, just installed ubuntu in my friends laptop, it doesn't connect to the wpa wireless network. the key is correct.
[19:24] <Myrtti> DasEi: slip and you lose more than you want
[19:24] <musikgoat|main> malikyoda: nice
[19:24] <Supersaiyan_IV> LinuxUser_, it has to be named ".conkyrc" , with the dot
[19:25] <LinuxUser_> Supersaiyan_IV: only  ".conkyrc" ?
[19:25] <_VIM_> anahata: I might have a couple links for those, gimmie a few minutes to look in my Delicious bookmarks :)
[19:25] <oskar-> anon, start wpa_supplicant manually with -dd and have a look at its output
[19:25] <Supersaiyan_IV> LinuxUser_, yes :P
[19:25] <DasEi> Myrtti: you mean Trash or rm ?
[19:25] <malikyoda> i used it to watch movies too, but not as much anymore
[19:25] <LinuxUser_> Supersaiyan_IV: alright :)
[19:25] <musikgoat|main> malikyoda: i have the 901, the atom based, and it runs well, but that is with 2gb
[19:25] <Supersaiyan_IV> LinuxUser_, then copy it into the home folder
[19:25] <flaco> hello, anyone with expirence with touch panels?
[19:26] <M4d3L> hi. I have a dell XPS M1710 with 2ghz cpu (T7200 Intel Core 2), 4gb of ram. and nvidia Geforce Go 7950 GTX for video card. I want to know what version of ubuntu I must choose. 32 or 64bit. and if anyone get some problem with this hardware.
[19:26] <malikyoda> I was going to upgrade to a 900series but couldn't find one in black
[19:26] <Supersaiyan_IV> LinuxUser_, paste a config of your choice into it by using a text editor, and restart conky
[19:26] <louiscvh> DasEi nothing i cant connecting..
[19:26] <sfire> M4d3L, 64bit if you want to access all 4gb of ram
[19:26] <anahata> _VIM: ok :)
[19:26] <malikyoda> but i removed the lame OS and installed cruncheee and I like it much better
[19:27] <_VIM_> anahata: hey there
[19:27] <DasEi> louiscvh:how much ram do you use ? anything in Trash you still need ?
[19:27] <M4d3L> is 64bit will give me problem with software only on 32 bit like on windows?
[19:27] <_VIM_> oops
[19:27] <musikgoat|main> M4d3L: i don't konw if that chip supports 64 bit OS,  but you wont have a problem with the hardware, after you install the nvidia video card drivers
[19:27] <XiT|ubuntu> org
[19:27] <LinuxUser_> Supersaiyan_IV: it says "Error stating file '/home/nicolai/.conkyrc': No such file or directory"2
[19:28] <louiscvh> DasEi im installed  cpanel maybe that is the problem
[19:28] <LinuxUser_> Supersaiyan_IV: when i try to move it in the home folder
[19:28] <louiscvh> how can remove cpanel
[19:28] <louiscvh> is the last thing i installed in my computer
[19:28] <mharris_> hey when i put my computer on suspend, it does not resume properly -- the screen remains blank and I have to power cycle.  When I get back into X my wireless card needs to be reactivated -- how do i fix this?
[19:28] <perlsyntax> How would i install python 2.6 on ubuntu?
[19:28] <musikgoat|main> M4d3L: 64-bit OS's still support 32 bit applications anyways
[19:28] <I1> how can i use yum on ubuntu hardy??
[19:28] <M4d3L> ok
[19:28] <crdlb> perlsyntax: why do you want to?
[19:28] <musikgoat|main> I1: why would you want to
[19:29] <crdlb> perlsyntax: it will be default in 9.04
[19:29] <Supersaiyan_IV> LinuxUser_, go to you home folder → file → create document → empty file → name it ".conkyrc"
[19:29] <Unkown2084-394> what group do i have to add myself to so i can modify the /var/www foler?
[19:29] <perlsyntax> can i use in my apt-get or do i ned to compile it?
[19:29] <M4d3L> and how I can test if 64 bit is supported by my hardware?
[19:29] <malikyoda> what OS you running on your 901
[19:29] <oskar-> Unkown2084-394, this will tell you: ls -ld /var/www
[19:30] <oskar-> (perhaps)
[19:30] <perlsyntax> crdlb, could i  comile but not sure how to.
[19:30] <perlsyntax> compile
[19:30] <Supersaiyan_IV> LinuxUser_, the dot before files eg. ".conkyrc" means it's an invisible system file, to show them use ctrl+h
[19:30] <musikgoat|main> M4d3L: look up the processor on intels site
[19:30] <TaG^> where is the windows explore in ubuntu?
[19:30] <perlsyntax> when is 9.04 come out?
[19:30] <robacarp> can somebody tell me what the @ symbol means when I `ls -la` ?  eg http://paste.ubuntu.com/127896/
[19:30] <crdlb> perlsyntax: you could compile it, but why? it won't have any modules other than the std library
[19:30] <shoi> how do i cfg mf  video car?
[19:30] <oskar-> TaG^, nice one ;)
[19:30] <musikgoat|main> malikyoda: native jaunty beta currently
[19:30] <crdlb> perlsyntax: late april
[19:30] <shoi> how do i cfg my video card*
[19:30] <Supersaiyan_IV> perlsyntax, ask in #ubuntu+1
[19:30] <malikyoda> how is it?
[19:31] <TaG^> oskar- i install ubuntu throught winxp... serious were is the window explore
[19:31] <LinuxUser_> Supersaiyan_IV: i have done that
[19:31] <musikgoat|main> malikyoda: its pretty good,  the installer has some trouble cause its made for a larger screen, but theres a fix for that on eeeuser forums... but it runs well on my 901
[19:31] <louiscvh> how can i remove cpanel ??
[19:31] <anon> can some1 help me, with configuring the wireless network ?
[19:31] <mharris_> hey when i put my computer on suspend, it does not resume properly -- the screen remains blank and I have to power cycle.  When I get back into X my wireless card needs to be reactivated -- how do i fix this?
[19:32] <LinuxUser_> Supersaiyan_IV: alright 2 sec..
[19:32] <Unkown2084-394> it comes back with this: drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2009-03-07 13:42 /var/www
[19:32] <malikyoda> I've tried a couple, mostly eeebuntu NBR and eeebuntu base
[19:32] <zilleplus> does anyone knows how to start phpmyadmin???????
[19:33] <oskar-> TaG^, as ubuntu is not windows, there is no windows explorer. the file system browsing application in ubuntu is called nautilus
[19:33] <DasEi1> louiscvh:?
[19:33] <musikgoat|main> malikyoda: yeah, i used those before installing the jaunty beta and installing NBR on top of that.  I was happy with eeebuntu when that was the only ubuntu option
[19:33] <zilleplus> does anyone knows how to start phpmyadmin in ubuntu server ???????
[19:33] <technik_> zilleplus: it's a webapp... make sure apache is running /etc/init.d/apache2 start
[19:33] <malikyoda> I have to say I like the simplicity of cruncheee bang
[19:33] <bombshelter13_> perlsyntax 9.04 means 4th month of 9th year
[19:33] <LinuxUser_> Supersaiyan_IV: alrught now i have done it, but its sucks .. i can only see the half of it
[19:33] <Unkown2084-394> it comes back with this: drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2009-03-07 13:42 /var/www ... so only root is able to modify the file?
[19:34] <LinuxUser_> Supersaiyan_IV: The other half is out of my screen
[19:34] <technik_> zilleplus: did you install it from ubuntu repositories?
[19:34] <anon> hi, the gnome applet tells me network is down. but iwconfig lists the device. what's going on ?
[19:34] <zilleplus> i know but its in terminal
[19:34] <Supersaiyan_IV> LinuxUser_, Oo which config did you use?
[19:34] <musikgoat|main> malikyoda: i will have to look at that, i'm not familiar with it
[19:34] <Supersaiyan_IV> LinuxUser_, mine or someone's off ubuntuforums
[19:34] <louiscvh> somebody cant help me i can`t make session with gnome plase
[19:34] <LinuxUser_> Supersaiyan_IV: just one i found on one link you posted
[19:35] <louiscvh> *please...
[19:35] <malikyoda> it uses openbox
[19:35] <LinuxUser_> Supersaiyan_IV: ubuntuforums..
[19:35] <technik_> zilleplus: open firefox and navigate to http://localhost/phpmyadmin
[19:35] <oskar-> Unkown2084-394, yes, seems so. you can simply change the group of that directory (recursively?) to another group with chgrp
[19:35] <malikyoda> very lightweight
[19:35] <Supersaiyan_IV> LinuxUser_, http://pastebin.com/m1125becf
[19:35] <TaG^> oskar- ok. where do I find nautilus.. under what menu?
[19:35] <technik_> zilleplus: I assume your doing it on the same box
[19:35] <Supersaiyan_IV> LinuxUser_, this is mine try that one instead
[19:35] <MightyTweek> louiscvh: what's the problem?
[19:35] <technik_> zilleplus: what do you see?
[19:35] <LinuxUser_> Supersaiyan_IV: alright, is that cool :) ?
[19:35] <musikgoat|main> malikyoda: nice, i bet that runs much better than a gnome based version
[19:36] <Supersaiyan_IV> LinuxUser_, np, their conky is bigger because they have the antialiased XFT font enabled
[19:36] <zilleplus> nothing its a terminal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[19:36] <tb12> Hello. I'm using screen to connect to some other computer which also has a screen. How can I pass screen-commands to the inner screen?
[19:36] <oskar-> TaG^, nautilus paints the desktop symbols. if you enter a folder in the places menu, it opens a nautilus window
[19:36] <LinuxUser_> Supersaiyan_IV: aohhh alright ... but how do i move the one i have now ?
[19:36] <Supersaiyan_IV> LinuxUser_, just edit the one you have
[19:36] <malikyoda> pretty good so far
[19:37] <LinuxUser_> Supersaiyan_IV: How, i cant find it, its invisbile i think
[19:37] <technik_> zilleplus: do you have a terminal browser installed, i.e. links, elinks, lynx?
[19:37] <glymph> tb12: ctrl+a then a
[19:37] <Supersaiyan_IV> LinuxUser_, gedit /home/nicolai/.conkyrc
[19:37] <Supersaiyan_IV> LinuxUser_, in the terminal
[19:37] <anon> can SOMEONE help me? i can't connect to the wireless network. it's wpa and the password is correct.
[19:37] <tb12> glymph: that only switches between my 2 last used sessions
[19:37] <oskar-> TaG^, so it is a bit like in windows, where explorer also paints the desktop symbols and is always there, and also opens in a window if you open a folder
[19:37] <LinuxUser_> Supersaiyan_IV: okay
[19:37] <glymph> tb12: release ctrl for the second press of a, that sends ctrl+a to the screen session inside
[19:38] <musikgoat|main> anon: turn off the encryption to test whether you can connect,  what wireless chipset?
[19:38] <oskar-> anon, start wpa_supplicant manually with -dd and have a look at its output
[19:38] <anon> musikgoat|main: i can't change the router's configuration
[19:38] <jushoa> Any one who got civilization 3 complete to work under any form af emulator ???
[19:38] <tb12> glymph: just to test, how would I then create a new window in the inner screen? ctrl +a a ctrl +a +c?
[19:38] <anon> musikgoat|main: the wificard is working fine.
[19:39] <oskar-> anon, if you have questions how to do that, simply ask...
[19:39] <ross> i would like to learn ruby on rails, what program should i use?
[19:39] <musikgoat|main> anon: pastebin the output of dmesg
[19:39] <z3r0> Can someone plz help me out with a grub problem
[19:39] <ILoveXP> Is there a banshee support channel?
[19:39] <Supersaiyan_IV> ILoveXP, voodoo banshee?
[19:40] <jushoa> not a single one who can tell me how to get the best game to work under ubuntu???...
[19:40] <anon> musikgoat|main: it's on another computer. but the last lines are "
[19:40] <LinuxUser_> Supersaiyan_IV: im lost
[19:40] <anon> wlan0: associated
[19:40] <musikgoat|main> anon: don't past here
[19:40] <oskar-> jushoa, which of the many best games?
[19:40] <unitedpotsmokers> hello, u use windows with virtualbox here?
[19:40] <anon> wlan0: disassotiating by local choice
[19:40] <LinuxUser_> Supersaiyan_IV: i have the first .conkyrc on my desktop .. and i cant remove it
[19:40] <knut> jushoa: look at the wine homepage if it is supported
[19:40] <jussi01> jushoa: vmware + windows...
[19:40] <anon> reason=3
[19:40] <unitedpotsmokers> hello, anybody use windows with virtualbox here?
[19:41] <jussi01> !appdb | jushoa
[19:41] <Supersaiyan_IV> LinuxUser_, you can, just press ctrl+h
[19:41] <anon> musikgoat|main: i'm not pasting. can you help me ?
[19:41] <jushoa> oskar... civilization 3
[19:41] <LinuxUser_> Supersaiyan_IV: and how do i close conky there is on my desktop that i only can see the half of.
[19:41] <Supersaiyan_IV> LinuxUser_, killall conky
[19:41] <Supersaiyan_IV> LinuxUser_, in the terminal
[19:41] <z3r0> Can someone plz help me out with a grub problem
[19:41] <musikgoat|main> anon, what do you get from lspci | grep wireless
[19:42] <oskar-> !ask | z3r0
[19:42] <jushoa> I know about wine hq, but it got terrible rates there... and the only one who clams to get it worked, was very high tech
[19:42] <anon> musikgoat|main: nothing.
[19:42] <LinuxUser_> Supersaiyan_IV: it workjd .,.. how can you know all this, im more and more begining to think that you were the one there maked Linux !
[19:42] <deany> what other screen capturing apps are there like recordmydesktop?
[19:42] <anon> musikgoat|main: it's a intel pro-wireless 3945abg
[19:42] <Supersaiyan_IV> LinuxUser_, this is only the beginning, trust me
[19:42] <danbhfive> !screencast > deany
[19:43] <musikgoat|main> anon: ok
[19:43] <kbala> hi guys , can anyone help to instal ubuntu...from CDROM boot
[19:43] <LinuxUser_> Supersaiyan_IV: yes i could image that ... damn there is a lot you need to know man ! :O
[19:43] <DasEi> louiscvh: sudo apt-get remove cpanel
[19:43] <_VIM_> !themes > anahata
[19:43] <Supersaiyan_IV> LinuxUser_, gedit /home/nicolai/.conkyrc → replace all text there with http://pastebin.com/m1125becf → save it → start conky again
[19:43] <LinuxUser_> Supersaiyan_IV: but how do i remove the file .conkyrrc on my desktop =
[19:43] <DasEi> lost your upper message
[19:43] <jumar> i do use windows with virtualbox sometimes, whats your problem <unitedpotsmokers>
[19:43] <ross> anyone?
[19:43] <deany> which ones can do compiz?
[19:43] <deany> rmd aint playin nice
[19:44] <M4d3L> I have an external drive of 500gb formated with NTFS. is Ubuntu will be able to read/write on it?
[19:44] <Supersaiyan_IV> LinuxUser_, to remove the conky file on desktop, click on your desktop, press ctrl+h to show hidden files, then just click on it and delete it
[19:44] <robacarp> my ubuntu server is connected to the internet, but doesnt know it.  How do I tell it to look @ eth0 for internet access?
[19:44] <jumar> yeah if you install ntfs3g
[19:44] <oskar-> M4d3L, yes
[19:45] <M4d3L> cool :)
[19:45] <jumar> check out ntfs3g forum on ubuntu
[19:45] <kbala1> hi guys
[19:45] <anon> musikgoat|main: so, can you help me?
[19:45] <rottenkid> good evening , can some one please tell how can i extract multiple rar files (with the same password) without prompting everytime for the password
[19:45] <oskar-> robacarp, sounds like it does not have a default route
[19:45] <musikgoat|main> anon: do you get anything from lsmod | grep iwl ?
[19:45] <jumar> you can always read ntfs, writing is not allowed by default
[19:46] <LinuxUser_> Supersaiyan_IV: i can se e it, but when i click delete on it, it wont dele !
[19:46] <robacarp> oskar-: I can ssh into it, but I cant eg ping google.com
[19:46] <LinuxUser_> Supersaiyan_IV: i can se e it, but when i click delete on it, it wont delete
[19:46] <glymph> ross: I suggest a tutorial, this probably isn't the best place to ask
[19:46] <Supersaiyan_IV> LinuxUser_, right click it and "move to trash" then
[19:46] <robacarp> oskar-: how do I setup a default route?
[19:46] <ross> glymph: no, i mean, what program should i use to code ruby on rails
[19:47] <ross> glymph: in ubuntu
[19:47] <LinuxUser_> Supersaiyan_IV: i cant do that either
[19:47] <perlsyntax> is there a beta ubuntu out?
[19:47] <Supersaiyan_IV> LinuxUser_, or click it and use shift+del
[19:47] <_VIM_> Alpha
[19:47] <fearful> perlsyntax, theres alpha test
[19:47] <glymph> ross: I would imagine "your favourite text editor" e.g. gedit, vi etc.
[19:47] <jumar> jaunty jackalope is available at the moment
[19:47] <jumar> i think
[19:47] <_VIM_> !jaunty | perlsyntax
[19:47] <LinuxUser_> Supersaiyan_IV: that doesnt work either :(
[19:47] <anon> musikgoat|main: yes. 4 lines
[19:47] <anon> musikgoat|main: yes. 4 lines
[19:48] <Supersaiyan_IV> LinuxUser_, are you kidding me? :D
[19:48] <musikgoat|main> anon: does one say iwl3945?
[19:48] <[EmPEroR]> alguien que me ayude con algun editor de video (ubuntu 8.10
[19:48] <anon> musikgoat|main: yes. 4 lines -  rfkill, mac80211, led_class and cfg80211
[19:48] <Supersaiyan_IV> LinuxUser_, it doesnt say anything?
[19:48] <anon> musikgoat|main: all of them say that
[19:48] <jamesmcm> hey
[19:48] <musikgoat|main> anon: ok
[19:48] <jamesmcm> guys i need help
[19:48] <LinuxUser_> Supersaiyan_IV: no im not, when i try to open it it says "There is no application installed for this file type"2
[19:48] <jamesmcm> my ATI multidisplay wont work after i installed fglrx
[19:48] <musikgoat|main> anon: try setting a static ip address
[19:48] <glymph> !spanish | [EmPEroR]
[19:48] <musikgoat|main> anon: do you know how?
[19:49] <jamesmcm> before it was working fine cloning the dispolay (even laoding the bios it was just outputting the monitor over HDMI)
[19:49] <jumar> LinuxUser_ try right clicking and add application code
[19:49] <rottenkid> good evening , can some one please tell how can i extract multiple rar files (with the same password) without prompting everytime for the password
[19:49] <oskar-> robacarp, normally it should get it automatically with the ip from the provider or dhcp server
[19:49] <jamesmcm> the moment I installed fglrx though it stopped working
[19:49] <[EmPEroR]> tranks
[19:49] <_VIM_> thanks*
[19:49] <LinuxUser_> Supersaiyan_IV: and above that it says "Could not display "/home/nicolai/.conkyrc""
[19:49] <Supersaiyan_IV> LinuxUser_, oh but thats ok, it isnt supposed to open
[19:49] <robacarp> oskar-: the server is setup on a static ip, configured in /etc/network/interfaces
[19:49] <LinuxUser_> jumar:  cant find it
[19:50] <Supersaiyan_IV> LinuxUser_, ah, right click and select open with text editor
[19:50] <tomlikestorock> is it best to serve multiple domains in apache from /var/www or ~/public_html?
[19:50] <tomlikestorock> what is the best practice?
[19:50] <glymph> rottenkid: I imagine you could try redirecting the password into the unrar program with: unrar [options] rarfile.rar < passwdfile (check the manpage, as this is just a guess)
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[19:50] <LinuxUser_> Supersaiyan_IV:  yes now its opened
[19:51] <LinuxUser_> Supersaiyan_IV:  and now whenb i try to dele it it says "Error stating file '/home/nicolai/.conkyrc': No such file or directory"
[19:51] <rottenkid> glymph, can you tell me more because I'm a noob :p
[19:51] <oskar-> robacarp, then you should set the default route there with a line (see man interfaces): gateway a.b.c.d
[19:51] <musikgoat|main> anon: this is what i'm seeing, it could be what you are experiencing:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/291685
[19:51] <Supersaiyan_IV> LinuxUser_, press F5 and see if it's still there
[19:51] <Supersaiyan_IV> LinuxUser_, it will refresh the current folder
[19:51] <glymph> rottenkid: from the terminal, type "man unrar" (assuming it's installed) and read what it says about passwords, you might find something there.
[19:52] <robacarp> oskar-: isn't this right? http://paste.ubuntu.com/127902/
[19:52] <LinuxUser_> Supersaiyan_IV:  Now its finally gone, you are insane !
[19:52] <LinuxUser_> Supersaiyan_IV: :D
[19:52] <kbala1> oskar?
[19:52] <tomlikestorock> I guess what I meant was: If I have a dedicated server, is it best practice to serve multiple virtual hosts from /var/www or ~/public_html?
[19:52] <macunix> I'm trying to make Compiz work, but I deleted compiz.real. What do I do to reinstall it?
[19:52] <rottenkid> glymph, thanks i'm reading now
[19:53] <jamesmcm> guys i need help
[19:53] <jumar> use synaptic and reinstall compiz from the repos
[19:53] <jamesmcm> my ATI multidisplay wont work after i installed fglrx
[19:53] <Supersaiyan_IV> LinuxUser_, the file was gone, but the program didnt refresh the contents of the folder to actually let you know it was gone PO
[19:53] <jamesmcm> before it was working fine cloning the dispolay (even laoding the bios it was just outputting the monitor over HDMI)
[19:53] <Supersaiyan_IV> :P
[19:53] <macunix> which package do I install w/ Synaptic?
[19:53] <kbala1> i would like to install Ubuntu from CDROM
[19:53] <jamesmcm> the moment I installed fglrx though it stopped working
[19:53] <jumar> ctrl+f -> search for: compiz
[19:53] <josher4> Does anyone know anything about TorK? I am trying to get it up and running but it keeps on saying that Tor stopped talking with it
[19:54] <jumar> in synaptic
[19:54] <oskar-> robacarp, looks good
[19:54] <LinuxUser_> Supersaiyan_IV: okay :)
[19:55] <robacarp> oskar-: thanks for looking....the file has been that way all along, and the server used to know to use eth0 for inet access
[19:55] <LinuxUser_> Supersaiyan_IV:in that link you posted there are two coeds.
[19:55] <anon> musikgoat|main: :S
[19:55] <LinuxUser_> Supersaiyan_IV: which of them i need ?
[19:55] <Supersaiyan_IV> LinuxUser_, they are the same
[19:55] <musikgoat|main> anon: ?/
[19:55] <macunix> thanks
[19:55] <jumar> macunix: check compiz-gnome, it will install all alright, and also right click on it to see extras in the menu
[19:56] <lucas_catro> hey ,,
[19:56] <abe3k> #j /compiz-fusion
[19:56] <Supersaiyan_IV> LinuxUser_, I suppose you know majority of the things needed to know to play around with conky :P once you feel like you can move on I recommend playing around with compiz
[19:56] <musikgoat|main> abe3k: switch the symbols
[19:56] <anon> musikgoat|main: it seems there is solution
[19:56] <TaG^> why d i get a error msg when I type this? sudo apt-get install build-essential
[19:56] <lucas_catro> i tried to block a access from server on iptables for mac address
[19:56] <TaG^> error msg E: Couldn't find package build-essential
[19:56] <musikgoat|main> anon: setting a static ip, apparently
[19:57] <Supersaiyan_IV> TaG^, do you have synaptic running?
[19:57] <lucas_catro> and the person on computer keep using ethernet
[19:57] <musikgoat|main> anon: did that work?
[19:57] <LinuxUser_> Supersaiyan_IV: alright thanks for your help, :) !!
[19:57] <Supersaiyan_IV> LinuxUser_, np ;)
[19:57] <anon> musikgoat|main: no.
[19:57] <TaG^> Supersaiyan_IV what is synaptic? sorry i am new to this..
[19:57] <lucas_catro> it is a package manager
[19:57] <tdn> How do I play .rmvb files?
[19:57] <macunix> compiz-gnome is installed. I'm going to restart and test it
[19:58] <josher4> Does anyone know anything about TorK? I am trying to get it up and running but it keeps on saying that Tor stopped talking with it, ideas???
[19:58] <TaG^> so who do i fix my error msg?
[19:58] <Supersaiyan_IV> TaG^, goto System → Administration → Software sources → Under "Ubuntu Software" select all except Source Code
[19:58] <oskar-> robacarp, it should work then. have you tried to sniff, what leaves eth0, when you ping? sudo tcpdump -i eth0 icmp
[19:59] <Supersaiyan_IV> TaG^, after that try again
[19:59] <jumar> macunix, dont forget to check the settings and also if it dont work run compiz --replace (if something goes wrong then metacity --replace)
[19:59] <macunix> compiz is installed, but now the windows have no title bars
[19:59] <jumar> run metaciry --replace
[19:59] <jumar> macunix
[20:00] <jumar> run metacity --replace
[20:00] <jumar> sorry about the r letter
[20:00] <sammy> what package is responsible for playing alert and event sounds? like the logout sound?
[20:00] <macunix> it works. Is compiz running now?
[20:00] <anon> musikgoat|main: thanks anyway
[20:00] <robacarp> oskar-: no, I hadn't though of that, but ping doesn't get that far.  It just replies unknown host....does that mean name resolution isn't working?
[20:00] <TaG^> Supersaiyan_IV it's default to that already .. teh sorce code is not checked..
[20:00] <jamesmcm> help i cant mount my NTFS drives
[20:00] <jumar> for window decoration (titlebars) you need to install gtk-windowdecorator or emerald, they are in the repo
[20:01] <musikgoat|main> anon: good luck,  another person in that thread mentioned mac filtering,  u sure the router isn't mac filtering?
[20:01] <jamesmcm> doing  sudo mount -t ntfs-3g  /dev/sdb /media/Completed \Downloads -o force
[20:01] <robacarp> oskar-: ! thats it...I can ping to 74.125.45.100 (which is google)
[20:01] <jamesmcm> doesnt work
[20:01] <jumar> no you switched back to gnome simple
[20:01] <LinuxUser_> Supersaiyan_IV: one last question is .. you posted me this link http://pastebin.com/m1125becf .. in that link there are one code, and other that code there is another, which one i need to put in my .conkyrc ? :)
[20:01] <macunix> how do I turn on compiz so that the windows have titlebars?
[20:01] <oskar-> robacarp, write "nameserver a.b.c.d" into your /etc/resolv.conf
[20:02] <jumar> install emerald, and ccsm, in ccsm you can specify the window decoration type, and its better then the ordinary ubuntu options
[20:02] <jumar> for compiz
[20:02] <Supersaiyan_IV> LinuxUser_, it doesn't matter which, both are the same
[20:02] <musikgoat|main> jamesmcm: put the \ before the space
[20:02] <LinuxUser_> Supersaiyan_IV: Hm alright
[20:02] <glymph> jamesmcm: why "ntfs-3g" as opposed to just "ntfs", and why "-o force"?
[20:02] <macunix> Should I use apt or synaptic to install emerald?
[20:02] <musikgoat|main> jamesmcm: you are escaping the space
[20:02] <Dracie> hi on my brothers thinkpad x61s running ubu
[20:02] <Dracie> oops
[20:02] <jumar> yes, do so macunix
[20:02] <crunchbang> #crunchbang
[20:02] <jamesmcm> lol fail
[20:02] <crunchbang> whoops sorry
[20:02] <macunix> kk
[20:02] <Supersaiyan_IV> LinuxUser_, the only difference between them is that one is editable, and the other one looks nicer
[20:03] <parceval> hi i am looking for a way to intercepts stdout from another running process.
[20:03] <Dracie> the VTs are gray on a florecent green
[20:03] <Dracie> how do i fix that
[20:03] <TaG^> Supersaiyan_IV ok it wrks ..now .. thanks for your help..
[20:03] <robacarp> oskar-:  whew...thanks.  No Idea how that got corrupted, but adding the gateway as a nameserver fixed that.
[20:03] <LinuxUser_> Supersaiyan_IV: Hm alright.. which one is the one their looks nicer :) ?
[20:03] <robacarp> oskar-: man that was killin me...
[20:03] <jamesmcm> yays it worked
[20:03] <josher4> Does anyone know anything about TorK? I am trying to get it up and running but it keeps on saying that Tor stopped talking with it, ideas???
[20:03] <jamesmcm> now i need to get ATI multimonitor working
[20:04] <Supersaiyan_IV> LinuxUser_, nono :P it looks nicer to read (the code), not when you have conky running
[20:04] <dinsdale07> I want KDE 4.2. Do I install 1) 9.04 alpha or 2) 8.10 and update KDE?
[20:04] <TaG^> Supersaiyan_IV what does sudo apt-get install build-essential do or what is it for?
[20:04] <Supersaiyan_IV> LinuxUser_, it's exactly the same config
[20:04] <jumar> dont have to restart your machine, when emerald is installed, open ccsm, give decoration type emerald and then run compiz --replace
[20:04] <glymph> josher4: it would appear not, if no-one has replied, have you tried googling the error?
[20:04] <LinuxUser_> Supersaiyan_IV:oohhhhh .... i fell dumb :D
[20:04] <macunix> Do I need to reboot after installing ccsm and emerald?
[20:04] <jumar> no
[20:04] <macunix> thanks
[20:04] <LinuxUser_> Supersaiyan_IV:oohhhhh .... i fell dud :D
[20:04] <LinuxUser_> Supersaiyan_IV:oohhhhh .... i fell dum :D
[20:04] <Supersaiyan_IV> :P
[20:05] <josher4> glymph: Problem is, there is no error code or really a error message
[20:05] <Supersaiyan_IV> TaG^, it's all the essentals needed to build packages from source
[20:05] <sammy> what package is responsible for actually playing an alert or event sound?
[20:05] <Supersaiyan_IV> essentials*
[20:05] <glymph> josher4: then in what way does iit "say" that Tor stopped talking etc.?
[20:05] <dayo__> dinsdale07: 9.04 is yet to be released
[20:05] <macunix> Where do I set the decoration type/
[20:05] <TaG^> Supersaiyan_IV ok.. thanks
[20:05] <evilbug> what is a straight serif font similar to Verdana?
[20:05] <dinsdale07> dayo__,  there is a alpha 5 Release available.
[20:06] <jumar> open ccsm, effects tab then Window Decoration and for command give emerald or emerald --replace, the one that works
[20:06] <dayo__> dinsdale07: then i guess u're not looking for stability?
[20:06] <glymph> macunix: system -> preferences -> appearance
[20:06] <happosade> Does Wacom Cintiq works on ubuntu?
[20:07] <unitedpotsmokers> hello guys... if i use open office 2.4, and my friend want to open the document in microsoft word 2007, which format doc is compatible?
[20:07] <oskar-> parceval, have you tried reading from the files linked in /proc/<pid>/fd/?
[20:07] <oskar-> or writing to
[20:07] <LinuxUser_> Supersaiyan_IV: When i go into my home folder then i can see two .conkyrc .. the one has the name .conkyrc the .conkyrc~ .. is that roght ?
[20:07] <kbala1> oskar, nope
[20:07] <dayo__> unitedpotsmokers: u can save it in MS format
[20:07] <macunix> There's no "Window Decoration" option in the effects tab of ccsm
[20:07] <musikgoat|main> unitedpotsmokers: when you save it as a doc format, MS word will be able to open that
[20:08] <kbala1> oskar...i want to format my C Drive and reinstall the Ubuntu freshly...
[20:08] <jumar> i got it in my ccsm
[20:08] <kbala1> pls giude me
[20:08] <brandon__> hey
[20:08] <DrMax> yo
[20:08] <oskar-> kbala1, then just reinstall ubuntu and select to use the whole disk
[20:08] <anahata> before i leave, how do i search the text here?
[20:08] <dayo__> !welcome | DrMax
[20:08] <dinsdale07> dayo__, It would be on my main laptop and the release is 23rd of April I think. Do you think 8.10 + KDE update is the better option?
[20:08] <josher4> glymph: It just says: "Tor stopped talking to us! Try restarting TorK."
[20:08] <jumar> try to do as glymph says it easier, if it dont work, open ccsm and write in the filter field decoration, you should find it
[20:08] <anahata> i know that's in a howto somewhere
[20:09] <jumar> then
[20:09] <glymph> anahata: you mean thee scrollback in iRC?
[20:09] <josher4> glymph: Which I did do already
[20:09] <Supersaiyan_IV> LinuxUser_, that is correct .conkyrc~ is a temp file
[20:09] <anon> musikgoat|main: i don't have a /etc/resolv.conf . shouldn't i have one ?
[20:09] <dayo__> dinsdale07: well, i upgraded from 8.04 to 8.10 a few days ago, but i'm a gnome-user, so i can't say much about kde
[20:09] <glymph> In tha case, I can only suggest reading the tor documentation, sorry but I've not used it.
[20:10] <musikgoat|main> anon: well, last i checked network-manager handles that now, so you would get one once you got dhcp from the router
[20:10] <DrMax> I have a (tricky) usb question: is there a way (besides modifying the corresponding kernel module) to make a device appear as a different device by reporting a different USB ID ?
[20:10] <musikgoat|main> anon: as far as i know
[20:10] <LinuxUser_> Supersaiyan_IV: Okay ... but then your code doesnt work .. it should all be like you said, but when i click on the conky launcher nothing happends :O
[20:10] <macunix> found it
[20:10] <brandon__> how is everyone, does anyone here know anything about setting up a dm2 mixman on ubuntu, i dont really know how to do all of this stuff yet buti learn fast and thats kinda the main reason i got udbuntu is to use it as a mixxing station but i cant figure out how install or find any drivers that i can use.
[20:10] <macunix> what now?
[20:10] <dinsdale07> dayo__, was you update experience good?
[20:10] <jumar> okay
[20:10] <jumar> ?
[20:10] <macunix> what do I do now?
[20:10] <musikgoat|main> anon: can you test connecting to a non wpa router at all?
[20:10] <macunix> oh. never mind
[20:10] <macunix> oops
[20:11] <jumar> now you can run, do that in a terminal, compiz --replace , see it works
[20:11] <brandon__> is anyone an ubuntu expert here?
[20:11] <anon> musikgoat|main: no...
[20:11] <macunix> done. thanks
[20:11] <kbala1> OSKAR,     the problem is.. its not booting from CD, it goes to Hard disk and starts windows
[20:11] <jumar> if it goes wrong, just close the terminal
[20:11] <jumar> it works?
[20:11] <macunix> can I make that run on startup?
[20:11] <brandon__> whats this chat for agian i thought it was ubuntu help
[20:11] <macunix> es
[20:11] <macunix> oops. Yes
[20:11] <tritium> brandon__: it is
[20:11] <jumar> yeah, you gotta put compiz --replace command in autostart
[20:11] <Supersaiyan_IV> LinuxUser_, i see, i might have slightly different code
[20:11] <dayo__> dinsdale07: well, there was/is an issue with Totem and Kaffeine. I was cut off from the internet for a week, so a lot of aptitude i had to Ctrl+C when it tried to get stuff outside of my apt-cache. and now my video players are acting funny sometimes.
[20:12] <jumar> when you login it goes up like a rockezt
[20:12] <Supersaiyan_IV> LinuxUser_, try different configs
[20:12] <LinuxUser_> Supersaiyan_IV Hmm ..
[20:12] <macunix> you mean system -> preferences -> session?
[20:12] <oskar-> kbala1, my nickname is "oskar-". it is a problem of you hardware, with which i can not help you. maybe you want to ask in #hardware, if that channel exists?
[20:12] <LinuxUser_> Supersaiyan_IV: year i will do that :)
[20:12] <Supersaiyan_IV> LinuxUser_, my conky config is made so it runs under compiz
[20:12] <brandon__> tritium do u think you can help me install mixxx 1.6 + herc cuz i tryed those command lines from the wiki but i guess im stupid...
[20:13] <anon> musikgoat|main: lol, it was the passphrase. sorry for the trouble. seriously, i suck.
[20:13] <Supersaiyan_IV> LinuxUser_, it has some weird transparency settings
[20:13] <LinuxUser_> Supersaiyan_IV: okay :)
[20:13] <jumar> sorry, macunix i migrated from gnome to xfce, and i forgot how that works on gnome-ubuntu
[20:13] <kbala1> ok thanks oskar!
[20:13] <musikgoat|main> anon: hah, well, glad your connected
[20:13] <macunix> oh. I'm just gonna try it
[20:13] <macunix> ok?
[20:13] <jumar> but maybe yes, ask some other users, they gonna help, i gotta log out now
[20:13] <jumar> it will work i think so
[20:13] <macunix> ok.
[20:14] <tritium> brandon__: which wiki page?
[20:14] <anon> musikgoat|main: is there something in ubuntu like windows ICS ?
[20:14] <dinsdale07> dayo__, hm - I might risk going with the alpha, The 1st beta will be available soon and apparently you can update along the way until the release.
[20:14] <musikgoat|main> anon: haven't gotten into bridging myself, but its not as 1,2,3 as it is in windows, afaik
[20:15] <dinsdale07> dayo__, but thanks for your feedback :-)
[20:15] <macunix> If I want Compiz to run on startup, should I put "compiz --replace" in System>Preferences>Sessions>Startup Programs?
[20:15] <musikgoat|main> anon: you can ask around here, and google for it
[20:15] <mharris_> hey on my laptop the thermal zones are TZ00 TZ01 and TZ02 -- how do i find out what hardware those actually measure?
[20:15] <louiscvh> hi why the program login window dont response ??
[20:15] <glymph> macunix: If I remember the installation process I followed for manually installing compiz correctly, there should be a tutorial on adding a compiz login option which does tthe "compiz --replace" when you login with the relevant session selected.
[20:15] <anon> can someone help me with masquering? i want to share my internet connection through ethernet.
[20:15] <deany> how can i have "show contents while resizing windows" when using compiz?@
[20:16] <guntbert> mharris_: ask the manufacturer, look on his web site or ask in #hardware
[20:16] <dayo__> dinsdale07: u're welcome :-)
[20:16] <erUSUL> macunix: you should enable compiz in System>Preferences>appearance||Effects Tab
[20:16] <musikgoat|main> anon: *masquerading   i think you mean
[20:16] <hubertb_> anon, apt-get install ipmasq and you're done :-)
[20:16] <macunix> theres no option for compiz there
[20:16] <guntbert> anon: ##networking will be a better place for your problem
[20:16] <glymph> macunix: did you install compiz manually?
[20:16] <daejones2> can anyone help me get multiple backgrounds for my desktops?
[20:17] <macunix> I think so. I accidentally removed compiz.real, and reinstalled it.
[20:17] <anon> hubertb_: there is no such package
[20:17] <anahata> bye room, thanks
[20:18] <unitedpotsmokers> musikgoat|main, which format? there are 3 ms format. ms word 6.0, ms word 95, ms word 97,2000,xp ?
[20:18] <hubertb_> anon, make sure you're also using multiverse and universe in your sources.list
[20:18] <tritium> anon: yes there is
[20:18] <musikgoat|main> unitedpotsmokers: 97,2000,xp
[20:18] <tritium> !info ipmasq
[20:18] <glymph> macunix: I'm not sure, but see my suggestion above about searching for a tutorial on changing the login session
[20:18] <unitedpotsmokers> thanks musikgoat|main
[20:18] <macunix> ok
[20:18] <dayo__> anon: i your terminal type: sudo aptitude show ipmasq
[20:19] <more> which package do i need to play dvds in intrepid totem says some gstreamer plugin is missing?
[20:19] <tritium> dayo__: apt-cache show ipmasq would work, and doesn't require sudo
[20:19] <anon> dayo__: done, i ran it. what now?
[20:19] <dayo__> tritium: i see. makes sense
[20:20] <dayo__> anon: well, u can now install it, if u like what u read:  sudo aptitude install ipmasq
[20:20] <hubertb_> more, one of these (sorry I've forgotten which one exactly): gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse
[20:21] <LogicFan> more,  you need libdvdcss2
[20:21] <anon> dayo: i installed it, ran it. but it inst working
[20:21] <hubertb_> anon, run "/etc/init.d/ipmasq restart"
[20:21] <hubertb_> anon, with sudo
[20:22] <dayo> anon: hubertb_: it probably requires some configuring?
[20:22] <hubertb_> usually not
[20:22] <debclair> hi everyone
[20:22] <dayo> !welcome | debclair
[20:22] <hubertb_> ipmasq works out of the box (if the nics are configured proably)
[20:22] <LogicFan> more, add the medibuntu repos https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu#Adding%20the%20Repositories and then install using sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2
[20:22] <dayo> hubertb_: cool
[20:23] <hubertb_> :-)
[20:23] <hubertb_> dayo, there is also something similar to it, u might wanna have a look at "dnsmasq"
[20:23] <dayo> hubertb_: aaah, that's more familiar.
[20:23] <debclair> dayo, hi
[20:24] <anon> dayo: do i need static ip addresses?
[20:24] <debclair> could you please tell me how to change my usplash?
[20:24] <more> LogicFan: thanks, ill try
[20:24] <hubertb_> anon, nope, just make sure you're nics are brought up before ipmasq runs
[20:24] <ZykoticK9> debclair, are you using Intrepid 8.10?
[20:25] <anon> hubertb_: nics?
[20:25] <hubertb_> network interface cards
[20:25] <debclair> 8.04 modified for HP Mini Note
[20:25] <daejones2> hello everyone
[20:25] <rapt0rjezuz> hey
[20:25] <debclair> daejones2,hi
[20:25] <rapt0rjezuz> anybody here on nUbuntu
[20:26] <rapt0rjezuz> beta
[20:26] <louiscvh> hey help why when use sudo said me this error : sudo: must be setuid root
[20:26] <ZykoticK9> debclair, then the majority of usplash themes will work :)  there is a program called StartUp-Manager (not sure the repo name) that is a GUI front end to change usplash - a suggestion
[20:26] <git_> is there Paltalk for Ubuntu?
[20:26] <anon> hubertb_: it's 2 pcs. 1 connected via wireless to the router (internet), and connected to the other pc through ethernet. none of the two needs a static ip?
[20:26] <incorrect> org
[20:26] <glymph> !gksudo | louiscvh
[20:26] <hubertb_> anon, in that case, both pcs need static ips on their ethernet-nics
[20:27] <anon> yhanks
[20:27] <jjohn> hi there!!!
[20:27] <daejones2> can anyone help with me gettin multiple backgrounds on the desktops?
[20:27] <jjohn> how can I install Canon printer UFR II driver on ubuntu?
[20:27] <ZykoticK9> daejones2, are you in gnome?
[20:27] <dayo> daejones2: what do u mean by multiple?
[20:27] <daejones2> yes
[20:27] <anon> hubertb_: do i need to configure the gateway in one of them?
[20:27] <dajxd> I'm running ubuntu on a santa rose macbook pro and no videos will play- it's a fresh install.  I know I have to add something to xorg.conf and I know it has something to do with compiz- can anyone help out?
[20:27] <daejones2> I have the two desktops, or workspaces, and i want a differnt background on each
[20:28] <louiscvh> but i always use sudo
[20:28] <mrglinux1> in have uploaded in torrent what's that ? If I don't download anything from torrent
[20:28] <dayo> daejones2: not sure that it's possible. cool idea, though
[20:28] <hubertb_> anon, the box with the wireless connection to your route needs it's gateway pointing to your router
[20:28] <ZykoticK9> daejones2, non trivial - it can be done using the background feature in Compiz - but the BIG downside is you can't use your desktop anymore (no icons etc)
[20:28] <hubertb_> anon, the box without the wireless connection must have your other pc as it's default gateway
[20:29] <anon> thanks
[20:29] <daejones2> ah ok, i'll look at compiz to see if i can figure it out
[20:29] <git_> anyone here use Paltalk for Ubuntu?
[20:29] <ZykoticK9> dayo, it is possible, got 4 different backgrounds on my system right now - Compiz Cube is awsome with multi desktop backgrounds
[20:29] <debclair> ZykoticK9, I already tried it
[20:29] <hubertb_> anon, then you need ipmasq on only the box having both the wireless and the ethernet connection
[20:29] <dayo> ZykoticK9: aaah, compiz.
[20:29] <deany> ZykoticK9,  yup.. middle click mouse and drag :)
[20:29] <louiscvh> hey help why when use sudo said me this error : sudo: must be setuid root
[20:29] <dayo> louiscvh: gksudo
[20:30] <mrglinux1> where can I ask this question I have this in rtorrent:    298.6 / 4549.2 MB Rate: 326.3 / 129.0 KB Uploaded:   694.6 MB [ 6%]  0d  9:22 [   R: 2.33]
[20:30] <deany> wish i could find a screencaster that works smoothly..not choppy
[20:30] <louiscvh> dayo but dont respond su - username
[20:30] <glymph> daejones2: if you have two [side-by-side] displays, it might be easier to create an image that matches the resolution and add it to the backgrounds list in system -> preferences -> appearance
[20:30] <louiscvh> ..dayo but dont respond su - username
[20:30] <mrglinux1> I download a dvd that I got 298MB of 4549.2
[20:30] <louiscvh> dayo but dont respond su - username
[20:30] <mrglinux1> what is Uploaded that is 694.6 MB
[20:30] <mrglinux1> does send any data from my computer to torrent ?
[20:31] <dajxd> One more shot- I'm running ubuntu on a santa rose macbook pro and no videos will play- it's a fresh install.  I know I have to add something to xorg.conf and I know it has something to do with compiz- can anyone help out?
[20:31] <dayo> louiscvh: are u trying to start a gui app with admin rights? then gksudo <appname>
[20:31] <daejones2> can you pm me?
[20:31] <hubertb_> mrglinux1, of course, this is how that stuff (torrent) works :-)
[20:31] <dayo> louiscvh: if it's a terminal-based app then:  sudo <appname>
[20:31] <anon> dayo: it's not working.
[20:31] <glymph> dajxd: is X-windows running, or do you only have the text console?
[20:31] <dayo> !gksudo | louiscvh
[20:32] <mrglinux1> hubertb_: so what is that??  it's too large 650MB
[20:32] <daejones2> Zykotick9 can you pm me?
[20:32] <dayo> anon: what is not working?
[20:32] <fyc> Any one is here?
[20:32] <dajxd> glymph: I assume x-windows is running?  I don't really know what that is.
[20:32] <hubertb_> mrglinux1, nope, you've just uploaded multipe chunks multiple times to different hosts
[20:32] <anon> dayo: it's an xbox with 192.168.0.2 255.255.255.0 gw 192.168.0.1. the pc connect to the internet is 192.168.0.1, gw 192.168.1.1.
[20:32] <ZykoticK9> daejones2, what for?  have a question, post it here so everyone can participate.  plus i'm going to be leaving in a moment
[20:32] <glymph> dajxd: do you have a colourful login screen, or just a black background with white text?
[20:32] <anon> *connected
[20:32] <dajxd> Colorful.
[20:32] <rampage73> anyone know how to fix this when i plug in my digital camera and try to mount the camera so i can get the pics this is the error i get in dmesg
[20:32] <rampage73> usbfs: USBDEVFS_CONTROL failed cmd mtpfs rqt 128 rq 6 len 255 ret -71
[20:32] <louiscvh> dayo i cant use su -
[20:33] <glymph> dajxd: ...or a desktop with graphical menus and so on
[20:33] <rconan> hey... I'm trying to connect to VNC on a remote ubuntu machine using Remote Desktop Viewer but it just says "Connection to host "<ip address>:5900" was closed." anyone know what is going on here?
[20:33] <louiscvh> with the stupid gksudo i always use sudo..
[20:33] <dayo> anon: type:  route    and pastebin the output
[20:33] <dajxd> glymph: desktop and login and all that jazz.
[20:33] <glymph> dajxd: right, so graphics work, in what way do videos fail to play, and what are you using to play them?
[20:33] <rampage73> oh yea running intrepid ibex
[20:33] <dayo> louiscvh: what exactly are u trying to do?
[20:33] <louiscvh> to use the command su
[20:33] <dayo> louiscvh: what for?
[20:33] <louiscvh> fidelitysystem@fidelitysystem:~$ su -
[20:33] <louiscvh> bash: /bin/su: Permission denied
[20:34] <dajxd> Glymph: all videos won't play in all players.  I fixed this in my last install by adding a line to xorg.conf, but I don't recall what- I was told it was a compiz conflict.
[20:34] <daejones2> for the multiple desktops, exactly what am i trying to do with compiz?
[20:34] <oaxacamatt> hey all
[20:34] <oaxacamatt> throw compiz away
[20:34] <glymph> dajxd: I assume you mean .avi, .mpg etc. videos and you have tried both mplayer and VLC
[20:34] <ZykoticK9> daejones2, you do mean a different wallpaper on each desktop right?
[20:34] <yfk> when I mount this HFS+ partition I can read from it but not write to it... how can I fix this?
[20:34] <mrglinux1>  mrglinux1:why happen this event ? is it advantageous for get 250MB give 650mb means for get 250mb file I have to spend 1 GB my bandwidth
[20:34] <daejones2> yeah
[20:34] <dajxd> glymph: right, sorry.
[20:34] <squarebracket> what's the best way to a find/replace through multiple files?
[20:35] <glymph> ZykoticK9: I think daejones2 means for two monitors, not two desktops (i.e. sides of the cube)
[20:35] <daejones2> no just for two workspaces
[20:35] <_Whipper__> Quare:theres no "best" way..
[20:35] <daejones2> not two monitors
[20:35] <glymph> oh right, sorry daejones2 - in that case there's an option in the "desktop cube" tool in ccsm
[20:35] <louiscvh> omg that stupid gksudo dont response
[20:35] <louiscvh> can somebody help
[20:35] <daejones2> im sorry which option?
[20:35] <acu_rodna> guys I am trying to install Ekiga 3.01 and snapshot 3.1.2 ( I think) it needs libpt2.4.2 and libopal3.4.2 are this available somewhere ?
[20:35] <dotblank> Hey anyone know of a good way to edit config files via a bash script?
[20:35] <louiscvh> i WANT TO USE SUDO NOT GKSUDO
[20:35] <glymph> louiscvh: what are you typing exactly?
[20:36] <hubertb_> mrglinux1, yep, in you're case you're donating bandwith - again this is how torrent or file sharing in particular works
[20:36] <louiscvh> i want to enter nano using privileges
[20:36] <ZykoticK9> daejones2, Step 1 ccsm / under Utility you should see Wallpaper / add a different image file for each of you desktops
[20:36] <louiscvh> but nothing. i always use sudo..
[20:36] <mrglinux1> hubertb_:okey
[20:36] <mrglinux1> I got now
[20:36] <dayo> louiscvh: sudo nano
[20:36] <glymph> louiscvh: you want to edit a file with privs, ok. why do you not want to use gksudo?
[20:37] <louiscvh> cos dont response...
[20:37] <glymph> ah yes, thanks dajxd
[20:37] <glymph> oops
[20:37] <hubertb_> mrglinux1, maybe the seeders are to busy or there is currently no seeder at all (but a lot of leechers)
[20:37] <glymph> thanks dayo
[20:37] <kitche> glymph: because nano is not a graphical program
[20:37] <_Whipper__> louis:why:
[20:37] <louiscvh> i dont..
[20:37] <glymph> indeed kitche
[20:37] <dotblank> gksu gedit "file"
[20:37] <dayo> louiscvh: do u actually have sudo rights?
[20:37] <louiscvh> dayo fidelitysystem@fidelitysystem:~$ sudo nano
[20:37] <louiscvh> sudo: must be setuid root
[20:37] <louiscvh> yes yes dayo
[20:38] <louiscvh> and gksudo dont response..
[20:38] <ZykoticK9> daejones2, Step 2 (killing desktop) gconf-editor / apps / nautilus / preferences / UNCHECK "show_desktop" - now the wallpaper you pick in compiz should show up - this may also affect some transparent apps
[20:38] <_Whipper__> louis: u can upload root-something in ubuntu..
[20:38] <daejones2> thank you much sir
[20:38] <daejones2> it works now
[20:39] <jatt> hi when I configure my host
[20:39] <jatt> sudo hostname m.no-ip.org
[20:39] <jatt> I cannot start any X application, for instance xclock shows:
[20:39] <jatt> Error: Can't open display: :0.0
[20:39] <FloodBot2> jatt: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:39] <louiscvh> i want to use sudo :(((
[20:39] <jatt> what can be the problem?
[20:39] <LjL> louiscvh: then you want to fix a serious messup with the sudo permission
[20:39] <louiscvh> LjL what?
[20:39] <louiscvh> i dont moved anything..
[20:39] <_Whipper__> louis:or something else..
[20:39] <LjL> louiscvh: reboot into recovery mode, and then type "chmod +s /usr/bin/sudo"
[20:39] <ZykoticK9> louiscvh, are you sure your use is in the admin group?
[20:40] <louiscvh> yes yes
[20:40] <dayo> louiscvh: http://mihirknows.blogspot.com/2008/06/sudo-must-be-setuid-root-solved-in.html
[20:40] <hubertb_> jatt, what happens if you're connecting to the internet and afterwards start X?
[20:40] <louiscvh> i need to be root yes?
[20:40] <LjL> louiscvh: yes, you need to boot in recovery mode
[20:40] <_Whipper__> reboot is allways a good idea
[20:41] <glymph> LjL: could louiscvh just use "su" to do that?
[20:41] <jatt> well I am working on X now I switch the hostname so leafnode (a local newsserver I use) can run, and m.no-ip.org resolves fine because I am registered with no-ip.org
[20:41] <jatt> So I am connected to the internet right now
[20:41] <jatt> of course :)
[20:41] <LjL> glymph: not unless he's enabled "su" for some reason. "su" is not normally available to become root in Ubuntu.
[20:41] <livingdaylight> hello ubuntu people
[20:41] <glymph> ah yes, the root password is scrambled, LjL
[20:41] <_Whipper__> jatt: no kiddin'
[20:42] <LjL> glymph: it's not scrambled, it's just disabled
[20:42] <dayo> glymph: i use  sudo bash  to get a root shell
[20:42] <LjL> dayo: why not "sudo -i"?
[20:42] <tekteen> glymph: sudo su or sudo -i works
[20:42] <ewook> sudo -s ?
[20:42] <livingdaylight> i'm doing a fresh install, but don't want to use the default partitioning of swap and /   can someone help me set this up manually so i have swap; / ; and /home and maybe /usr and /var too?
[20:42] <tony426> anyone here play et quake wars?
[20:42] <glymph> oh ok, I set my root passwords on ubuntu machines just in case I need to use su instead of sudo/gksudo
[20:42] <hubertb_> jatt, what's the hostname you're currently using?
[20:42] <dayo> LjL: because i learned about sudo bash first, and then just aliased it to   sb
[20:42] <LjL> ewook: sudo -s also, depends on the end result you want. generally, sudo -i is advised
[20:43] <hubertb_> jatt, in order to get x running
[20:43] <SandGorgon> What backup solutions do you guys recommend - other than a cron job with tar ?
[20:43] <shifty5> hey, which codec pack are you guys using libavcodec51 or libavcodec-unstripped-51?
[20:43] <ZykoticK9> tony426, the demo i've played
[20:43] <ewook> LjL: or just set a root-password :)
[20:43] <tekteen> SandGorgon: rsync with cron?
[20:43] <_Whipper__> living: 4-5 parts is quite enoguh
[20:43] <shifty5> the second is debian-specific it says..
[20:43] <jatt> when I use dell-desktop (which has an entry in /etc/hosts for 127.0.0.1) X applications can be started
[20:43] <LjL> ewook: yes, but that's not recommended.
[20:43] <tony426> i have it installed but don't know how to start it. i don't see menus
[20:43] <jatt> at this moment I am using m.no-ip.org
[20:44] <livingdaylight> kann mir jemand dabei helfen?
[20:44] <LjL> dayo: using "sudo -i" is recommended over using "sudo bash" (or for that matter "sudo -s"), because it'll set up the root environment properly.
[20:44] <livingdaylight> i'm doing a fresh install, but don't want to use the default partitioning of swap and /   can someone help me set this up manually so i have swap; / ; and /home and maybe /usr and /var too?
[20:44] <tekteen> !du
[20:44] <hubertb_> jatt, and m.no-ip.org can be resolved when running in console-only?
[20:44] <dayo> LjL: i see
[20:44] <tekteen> what is german? lol
[20:44] <marine1> when installing cd/dvd system says can't find auotrun program
[20:44] <dayo> !de
[20:44] <jatt> with m.no-ip.org my leafnode server works, but I cannot start X application, when I switch to dell-desktop X-applications start but leafnode not
[20:44] <livingdaylight> !de | tekteen
[20:44] <tekteen> dayo: thanks
[20:44] <dajxd> glymph: Any ideas?
[20:44] <jatt> hubertb_: m.no-ip.org can always be resolved
[20:44] <_Whipper__> living: i just answered u
[20:44] <jatt> I am running X all the time
[20:45] <hubertb_> jatt, strange issue %-)
[20:45] <josher4> I need to edit a config file for a program (it is located in etc/privoxy/)
[20:45]  * tekteen forgot the abriviation of german :-)
[20:45] <marine1>  when installing cd/dvd system says can't find auotrun program
[20:45] <josher4> woops
[20:45] <jatt> yes :) I just wanted to avoid typing hostname m.mandala.no-ip.org and hostname dell-desktop back and forth
[20:45] <hubertb_> jatt, have you tried putting m.no-ip.org in /etc/hosts on that box (resolving to maybe 127.0.0.1)?
[20:45] <git_> try *!*@*.com
[20:45] <jatt> hubertb_: I haven't I will try that
[20:45] <glymph> sorry dajxd, I stepped away for a few minutes, any ideas about what?
[20:45] <hubertb_> jatt, it's just a guess, I'm not quite sure what's causing the problem
[20:45] <dayo> tekteen: u're welcome
[20:45] <git_> that's solve a bunch of troll problem
[20:46] <glymph> jatt: you could setup aliases for them
[20:46] <LjL> git_: do you think i could start with *!*@c-76-29-167-177.hsd1.ca.comcast.net?
[20:46] <dajxd> glymph: No worries.  About what it is I need to add in xorg.conf to fix my video playback issue.  I feel like it's a well known thing from my last fix, but I can't find it online.
[20:46] <git_> go after .net later
[20:46] <git_> start with .com first
[20:46] <josher4> I need to edit a config file for a program (it is located in etc/privoxy/), the problem is that only the root can edit it. I am on the only account on the computer which is the admin, how would I edit this file?
[20:46] <glymph> dajxd: does it give you an error message to search on, or just fail silently?
[20:46] <rottenkid> does anyone know why when i use unrar x -p *.rar  it takes only 1st archive?
[20:46] <marine1>  when installing cd/dvd system says can't find auotrun program
[20:46] <brandon__> can someone help me?
[20:47] <dajxd> glymph: silently.
[20:47] <glymph> rottenkid: I suspect the -p option needs the password
[20:47] <tekteen> josher4: do you want the cli way or the gui?
[20:47] <dayo> !help | brandon__
[20:47] <rconan> is there a command to see if any process has a port open?
[20:47] <rconan> similar to lsof
[20:47] <rottenkid> glymph,  i use the password after p
[20:47] <glymph> dajxd: even with the debug option for mplayer from the commandline?
[20:47] <brandon__> i just have a question that is prolly easy for u guys
[20:47] <LjL> rconan: sudo netstat -l -p
[20:47] <LjL> rconan: sudo netstat -l -p -n if you want numbers.
[20:47] <dayo> !ask | brandon__
[20:47] <marine1> trying to install wireless connection need to d/l software ut system can't find auotrun prgm.
[20:47] <ericvw> rconan: netstat -tnap
[20:47] <glymph> rottenkid: so you're typing unrar x -p <password> *.rar ?
[20:47] <josher4> tekteen: preferable the gui way
[20:48] <deany> any way to make apps remember their place , using compiz?
[20:48] <dajxd> glymph: I don't know anything about that, I'm sorry.
[20:48] <rottenkid> glymph, yes
[20:48] <hubertb_> glymph, rottenkid no space between -p<password>
[20:48] <josher4> tekteen: Prefreably*
[20:48] <glymph> ah yes, thanks hubertb_
[20:48] <hubertb_> glymph, you're welcome :-)
[20:48] <josher4> tekteen: Lol, cant type today. preferably**
[20:48] <tekteen> josher4: the semi-gui way (the closest thing I know) is to type alt+f2 then type the cmd gksu gedit
[20:48] <marine1>  trying to install wireless connection need to d/l software but system can't find auotrun prgm.
[20:48] <rottenkid> hubertb_& glymph i use without space :p
[20:49] <_Whipper__> deany: isnt it default?
[20:49] <tekteen> josher4: from there you can open it by going to file -> open
[20:49] <brandon__> does anyone know how to install the alsa midi driver when you download it from the dm2 mixman section of this url..http://www.mixxx.org/wiki/doku.php/hardware_compatibility???
[20:49] <deany> er nope
[20:49] <LjL> rconan: wait, you said port *open*, not specifically *listening* on a port... you'd probably want to drop the "-l" in that case
[20:49] <tekteen> josher4: that is my hybrid cli gui way :-P
[20:49] <_Whipper__> deany: soory then :)
[20:50] <josher4> tekteen: Heh, that works
[20:50] <_Whipper__> deany: in my inst. it was..
[20:50] <r33tfux0r> Greetings.  My monitor is no longer showing up properly (unknown) and my resolution choices are incorrect.  I am running 8.10.  I checked xorg.conf and tried to reconfigure the server to no avail.
[20:50] <tekteen> josher4: or, if you type gksu nautilus it gives you a admin file window. From there I believe you can open files as root
[20:50] <oaxacamatt> Question:  How can I search the rooms (groups) on IRC to find a specific topic?  I am using Pidgen.
[20:51] <LjL> oaxacamatt: /msg alis help
[20:51] <brandon__> does anyone know how to install the alsa midi driver when you download it from the dm2 mixman section of this url..http://www.mixxx.org/wiki/doku.php/hardware_compatibility???
[20:51] <brandon__> its a . deb file i think and when i click it it gives me code but im supposed to intall it and i dont know the command line for terminal
[20:51] <r33tfux0r> GDM goes out of sync and gnome is stuck at  a lower resolution.
[20:52] <tekteen> brandon__: sudo dpkg -i something.deb
[20:52] <Jan|> how come ubuntu doesn't have fonts like the ones on windows that are easy to read?
[20:52] <_Whipper__> oaxam: google
[20:52] <tekteen> !font
[20:52] <SiDi> Jan|, fonts like Sans are easy to read...
[20:52] <glymph> brandon__: it looks like a tarred gzipped archive to me, which file are you downloading, the one ending in .deb or in .tgz?
[20:53] <tekteen> Jan|: install "msttcorefonts"
[20:53] <brandon__> tgz
[20:53] <brandon__> srry
[20:53] <brandon__> im newbiw =(
[20:53] <Jan|> thanks
[20:53] <tekteen> brandon__: that is completly different :-)
 trying to install wireless connection need to d/l software ut system can't find auotrun prgm.
[20:53] <deany> pidgin goes where its always been.... firefox always starts left hand side, other apps usually start either top right or top left ....i want em to remember
[20:53] <brandon__> k
[20:53] <marine1> trying to install wireless connection need to d/l software ut system can't find auotrun prgm.
[20:53] <tekteen> brandon__: tar -xvzf something.tar.gz
[20:54] <tekteen> brandon__: then cd to the newly created directory
[20:54] <tekteen> !compile
[20:54] <tekteen> !compile| brandon__
[20:54] <anon> hi, i can't ping. "operation not permmited" help please.
[20:54] <oaxacamatt> LJL sorry but I am not finding it.  can you be more specific?
[20:54] <LjL> anon: try with "sudo". are you using a standard Ubuntu install?
[20:54] <LjL> oaxacamatt: type, here, /msg alis help list
[20:55] <anon> LjL: yes i am. i get the same thing with sudo.
[20:55] <brandon__> k one sec i type in terminal tar - xvzf  what?
[20:55] <dotblank> Hey anyone know of a good way to edit config files via a bash script?
[20:55] <brandon__> how do i know what soemthing is
[20:55] <tekteen> brandon__: where is the file?
[20:55] <hubertb_> anon, on the box you installed ipmasq?
[20:55] <anon> hubertb_: yes.
[20:55] <brandon__> on my desktop
[20:55] <mr_daniel> I need a interface between an e-mail server or e-mail client, and other applications. For example I want to write a simple program, which sends mails to a list of users. This users are asked to write back a answer with some information in a specific format like: name=<name>\n work_done=<done_this, and_this>,... This answer Mail then needs to be passed: read the data, make aggragations, etc. How can I achieve this?
[20:55] <mimiloon> hi everybody, i'm new to the linux world and i have installed ubuntu 8.04 and i'm having problem with the vmware; the problem is that i cannot select any usb devices to be added to the guest OS; it simply say empty under the usb selection and i have added the usb module
[20:55] <tekteen> brandon__: cd Desktop
[20:55] <hubertb_> anon, try restarting ipmasq "sudo /etc/init.d/ipmasq restart"
[20:56] <anon> hubertb_: it works. thank you.
[20:56] <LjL> anon: do you have any firewalls?
[20:56] <tekteen> brandon__: then tar -xvzf whatever.the.file.name.is.tar.gz
[20:56] <hubertb_> anon, don't make changes to network settings when running ipmasq
[20:56] <louiscvh> somebody know about cpanel ?
[20:56] <r33tfux0r> Greetings.  My monitor is no longer showing up properly (unknown) and my resolution choices are incorrect.  I am running 8.10.  I checked xorg.conf and tried to reconfigure the server to no avail.
[20:56] <hubertb_> anon, ipmasq gets confused and networking will stop to work completely
[20:56] <marine1> ubottu, i'm trying to set up a wireless connection on a 2nd desktop
[20:56] <brandon__> no such file or directory?
[20:57] <anon> hubertb_: i still wasn't able to put it to work :(
[20:57] <hubertb_> anon, so keep in mind to restart it when having made changes
[20:57] <_Whipper__> mr.D:  is that an ubuntu question really?
[20:57] <tekteen> brandon__: cd Desktop?!
[20:57] <brandon__> shouolld i only have that file on desktop remove everything else or make a folder and do cd folder name
[20:57] <Pedro> hi everybody. I need some help. someone told me that ubuntu doesn't support RT linux ! is that true?
[20:57] <jussi01> Pedro: at the moment rt is broken
[20:57] <tekteen> brandon__: put the tar.gz into your home directory
[20:57] <glymph> brandon__: "Desktop" is case-sensitive
[20:58] <jussi01> Pedro: ubuntu 8.04 is the last supported release
[20:58] <tekteen> brandon__: glymph is right
[20:58] <hubertb_> anon, well is internet aviable on you're "middle-box" (the one having both ethernet and wireless)
[20:58] <keres> how do you chown a directory so everyone can read/write?
[20:58] <Pedro> jussi01 : what do u mean by "broken"?
[20:58] <tekteen> jussi01: uh. I am sure I have 8.10
[20:58] <hubertb_> keres, 777
[20:58] <joaopinto> keres, you don't chown for that, you chmod
[20:59] <anon> hubertb_: yes it is.
[20:59] <LjL> keres: chmod, not chown. "man chmod", "chmod a+x"
[20:59] <jussi01> Pedro: there is no smp support at the moment
[20:59] <LjL> keres: i meant "chmod a+rw"
[20:59] <joaopinto> keres, and you should be careful setting such a permissive privilege
[20:59] <hubertb_> anon, then have you're behind-youre-middle-box-pc point to your middle-box-pc as default gateway
[20:59] <keres> joaopinto: its for a usb stick
[20:59] <brandon__> it gives me back back slash desktop dollar symbol
[21:00] <hubertb_> anon, "sudo route delete default" and then "sudo route add default $IP gw"
[21:00] <anon> hubertb_: it is doing that
[21:00] <Pedro> jussi01: hum ok. he said also that I can try installing rt linux on the jaunty release.
[21:00] <tekteen> brandon__: are you in the desktop?
[21:00] <bone> hi i have a question. ive downloaded windows gamer edition but i can't esthablish a internet connection.
[21:00] <jussi01> Pedro: jaunty rt is still broken also,
[21:00] <tekteen> brandon__: type ls, do you see the file?
[21:00] <eseven73> rt?
[21:01] <hubertb_> anon, ping you're middle-box from you're behind-youre-middle-box
[21:01] <jussi01> !rt | eseven73
[21:01] <hubertb_> anon, is it working?
[21:01] <LjL> bone: uh, is that related to ubuntu?
[21:01] <brandon__> um so on that line with Backslash,Desktop,dollar symbol  i type in the tgz file name command
[21:01] <axisys> !asterisk
[21:01] <brandon__> ?
[21:01] <axisys> hmm
[21:01] <LjL> !info asterisk
[21:01] <anon> hubertb_: i can't do that. it's a xbox
[21:02] <tekteen> brandon__: yes. tar -xvzf *.tar.gz
[21:02] <jussi01> Pedro: have a browse through the ubuntustudio mailing lists
[21:02] <Pedro> so when installing Ubuntu Studio I can compile real time programs ?
[21:02] <hubertb_> anon, damn ^^ - grab your dns-settings from your middle-box and put the same dns-ips onto your xbox (for name resolution)
[21:02] <Pedro> jussi01: ok thank u
[21:03] <jussi01> Pedro: if you need to use the realtime kernel, you sshould use 8.04
[21:03] <jussi01> Pedro: the ml archive is at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-studio-users/
[21:03] <Pedro> jussi01: ok
[21:03] <jussi01> Pedro: and the devel one: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
[21:03] <brandon__> tar xvzf not found
[21:03] <axisys> LjL: thnx.. would have been nice if they have the 1.6
[21:03] <livingdaylight> i've set / at 10108 MB which is 10gb ; Swap 1998 MB which is nearly 2gb ? and the rest is dedicated to /home 487997 MB
[21:04] <brandon__> wait i might have been missing some stuff
[21:04] <livingdaylight> does that look ok?
[21:04] <brandon__> no spaces right?
[21:04] <tekteen> huh
[21:04] <brandon__> or doesnt matter?
[21:04] <Pedro> jussi01: thank u
[21:04] <tekteen> brandon__: tar -xvzf *.tar.gz
[21:04] <RoundSparrow> Hello.  I installed from package manager "Mondo Rescue" but I have no clue how to start it from menus or shell. Someone have some direction?
[21:05] <shaky> ciao
[21:05] <LjL> axisys: you're out of luck, it's currently not even in Jaunty
[21:05] <bone> LjL no but i dont know where to ask.
[21:06] <LjL> livingdaylight: it looks ok to me, although with such a big drive, you might have given a little more space to /
[21:06] <bone> btw i asked in a forum now too
[21:06] <LjL> bone: ##windows i guess
[21:06] <bone> thx
[21:06] <brandon__> hey tek can i send you a private chat
[21:06] <promet> Hello, does anyone know anything about gnome-panel applet development?
[21:07] <livingdaylight> LjL next time... i've committed it now
[21:07] <promet> I have an applet that gnome won't load and I'm trying to correct the error
[21:07] <Joushou> Hmm... does anyone know why alt/option on mbp3.1 is mapped as iso3_shift or soemthing, instead of shift?
[21:07] <LjL> promet: not the right channel, try asking in #ubuntu-offtopic perhaps
[21:07] <livingdaylight> but with a /home partition now doing fresh installs and not touching /home will be easy
[21:07] <promet> ...
[21:07] <brandon__> i was thinking the liune should read / desktop $ then following
[21:07] <_Whipper__> Round: read the instructions bfore u install or download anything
[21:08] <livingdaylight> LJL find it annoying that the default install just gives swap and / (root)
[21:08] <tekteen> brandon__: I do not understand
[21:08] <brandon__> tar -xvzf dm2pre200080225.tar.gz
[21:08] <tekteen> that should work
[21:08] <tekteen> does it?
[21:09] <OzFalcon> Arrrgh
[21:09] <brandon__> it tells me no such file or directory it is on my desktop the whole line reads /desktop$tar -xvzf dm2pre200080225.tar.gz
[21:09] <OzFalcon> Why is wireless so horrible
[21:10] <tekteen> brandon__:
[21:10] <OzFalcon> Just wireless in general. Nothing to do with Ubu
[21:10] <hubertb_> OzFalcon, cause there is no wire on it ;-)
[21:10] <LjL> brandon__: not "desktop" with a lowercase D, for sure?
[21:10] <LjL> OzFalcon: then if it's nothing to do with Ubuntu, it doesn't belong to this channel ;)
[21:10] <_Whipper__> Oz: for no reason
[21:10] <tekteen> brandon__: try cd ~/Desktop
[21:10] <brandon__> yes it fills that in for me everytime with capital
[21:10] <OzFalcon> LjL, Im using Ubuntu ;-)
[21:10] <tekteen> brandon__: then the tar cmd
[21:11] <ray_ray> anyone able to help with a network manager problem?
[21:11] <brandon__>  without the /desktop?
[21:11] <OzFalcon> ray_ray, Mabie
[21:11] <ray_ray> lol
[21:11] <lexy1997> I installed opensuse ona 50GB partition on sdb2 but get an error 25 disk read error when trying to boot into it. any idea?
[21:11] <brandon__> cuz its filling in /desktop4 in for me everyline after i did the first step
[21:11] <ray_ray> the new netwo manager uses settings in /etc/NetworkManager right?
[21:12] <brandon__> $
[21:12] <tekteen> brandon__: are you at the same computer as your linux machine?
[21:12] <OzFalcon> lexy1997, Why not try Ubu instead of Osuse
[21:12] <brandon__> yes i just dont know how to use it this is my first day
[21:12] <lexy1997> my main is intrepid, this is just for fun
[21:12] <OzFalcon> ray_ray, What do you want to do?
[21:12] <ray_ray> have network manager actually work at home
[21:12] <tekteen> brandon__: do you know what pastebin is?
[21:13] <Evelynn> Anyone knows what package provides "more options" to KDE's System Settings, I currently only have Icons and Emotions in it
[21:13] <ray_ray> this is one my laptop
[21:13] <brandon__> no
[21:13] <OzFalcon> And what dist?
[21:13] <tekteen> !pastebin | brandon__
[21:13] <ray_ray> 8.10 ubuntu
[21:13] <lexy1997> OzFalcon. any ideas?
[21:13] <_Whipper__> Q: after complete cleanup and hoovering my HD, i tried/managed to inst. win, but theres Still pieces of Buntu.. :) Why's that?
[21:13] <tekteen> brandon__: type ls in the terminal. Then cp and paste it to the pastebin
[21:13] <OzFalcon> lexy1997, It installed right?
[21:14] <LjL> lexy1997: this isn't the SuSE support channel, is it?
[21:14] <_Whipper__> (i still have buntu on my Main-machine :)
[21:14] <LjL> _Whipper__: what would "pieces of Ubuntu" mean?
[21:14] <ray_ray> the scripts in /etc/networking/interfaces don't get run it seems
[21:14] <tekteen> brandon__: can you do that?
[21:15] <lexy1997> LjL, no it isn't but since Intrepid is my main install and it is that install of grub that gives me the error I thought someone here could help. not true?
[21:15] <Jordan_U> _Whipper__: What do you mean by pieces of Ubuntu?
[21:15] <OzFalcon> lexy1997, Mabie /boot is not in the right location....? Otherwise go to Osuse irc or use Ubu.
[21:15] <brandon__> k i did what you said
[21:15] <LjL> ray_ray: network-manager doesn't use /e/n/i
[21:15] <tekteen> brandon__: what is the link
[21:15] <tekteen> !pastebin|brandon__
[21:15] <_Whipper__> ljl: hmm.. well.. fragments is more like the word.. and not buntu especially, Lin in general..
[21:15] <LjL> lexy1997: i guess, but are you sure it's actually the Ubuntu GRUB that you're using? SuSE may easily have overwritten it with its own
[21:15] <brandon__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/127934/
[21:15] <schierbeck> Any Danes here?
[21:16] <ray_ray> yeah i know that breaks network-manager when i connect to my home network
[21:16] <LjL> _Whipper__: i still have no idea what you're on about. fragments of what?
[21:16] <schierbeck> I'm having problems installing my digital signature...
[21:16] <_VIM_> !ot | schierbeck
[21:16] <brandon__> i think i dont have the right version of mixxx could that be the problem i installed from add/remove
[21:16] <LjL> !dk | schierbeck
[21:16] <brandon__> and it is the beta version of mixxx
[21:16] <Jordan_U> LjL I think that in intrepid it actually might ( I know there were plans to make nm /e/n/interfaces aware but I don't know if they made it into intrepid )
[21:16] <louiscvh> hey how can add more ips to my ip like 192.190.12.1 192.190.12.2
[21:16] <LjL> Jordan_U: not sure
[21:16] <schierbeck> ok, thanks
[21:16] <tekteen> brandon__: that looks great. now type the cmd tar -xvzf dm2-pre20080225.tgz
[21:16] <Pedro> jussi01: but I haven't many processors to talk about SMP !
[21:17] <LjL> louiscvh: one usually has only one IP per network interface
[21:17] <keres> i have 1 hardrive seperated into multiple partitions, i installed linux on 1, win32 on the other, and osx86 on the last, how do you boot between the partitions?
[21:17] <rapt0rjezuz> hello
[21:17] <_Whipper__> ljl: when i scope my HD, theres stuff that its Deffenatily win-stuff :) like .. broken .deb:s etc
[21:17] <LjL> _Whipper__: "scope"? like scrape with a hexadecimal viewer?
[21:17] <rapt0rjezuz> what are some good password crackers?
[21:17] <tekteen> brandon__: then do "ls -l" (no quotes) and give me the output
[21:17] <brandon__> bash: cmd: command not found
[21:17] <louiscvh> LjL but i saw people that do that
[21:17] <Unkown2084-394> when I try to install php4, i get this error: "Package php4 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[21:17] <Unkown2084-394> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[21:17] <Unkown2084-394> is only available from another source
[21:17] <Unkown2084-394> E: Package php4 has no installation candidate
[21:17] <FloodBot2> Unkown2084-394: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:17] <LjL> _Whipper__: (if so, that's not at all surprising, if you formatted with the "quick" option)
[21:17] <tekteen> brandon__: starting at "tar"
[21:17] <Jordan_U> rapt0rjezuz: What type of passwords?
[21:18] <louiscvh> LjL i dont remember the name more sequence to my ip i dont know ..
[21:18] <LjL> Unkown2084-394: i believe current Ubuntu versions only come with PHP 5
[21:18] <LjL> louiscvh: i've no idea.
[21:18] <Unkown2084-394> i get the same thing with sudo apt-get install php5
[21:18] <_Whipper__> ljl: call it what u want, something like that :)
[21:18] <brandon__> right here or pastebin?
[21:18] <tekteen> bin
[21:18] <LjL> Unkown2084-394: then pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[21:18] <Fahmy> hey guys
[21:18] <bosco_> i conncect to the internet via ath0 (wireless connection) i autmaticly connect in ubuntu but when i go over to e17 and try to connect via terminal i cannot why is that??
[21:18] <LjL> _Whipper__: i can't call it what i want if i haven't the slightest clue what you're talking about
[21:18] <Fahmy> i need some assitant
[21:18] <bosco_> i run gnome by default
[21:18] <bosco_> ???
[21:18] <Fahmy> any expert in ubnto here ?
[21:18] <LjL> !enter
[21:19] <_Whipper__> ljl: not so quick, i know how to over-ride :)
[21:19] <LjL> !anyone
[21:19] <b1n42y> !ask
[21:19] <_VIM_> brandon__: I think anything over 2 lines should probably be pastebinned
[21:19] <brandon__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/127938/
[21:19] <tekteen> Fahmy: plenty just ask the question
[21:19] <tekteen> brandon__: now: cd dm2
[21:19] <Fahmy> b1n42y
[21:19] <Fahmy> good evening
[21:19] <brandon__> k
[21:20] <tekteen> brandon__: then ls -l and pastebin it
[21:20] <tekteen> brandon__: the ls helps me get a picture of what is going on
[21:20] <meoblast001> why am i getting the busybox black screeen of death?
[21:20] <thrope> would people recommend XFS over ext3 for media storage (300MB-1GB files, 300GB paritition)? I heard the performance might be better but was worried about power loss problems (hard reset)
[21:20] <_Whipper__> ljl: 1st: format HD 2nd: do a GOOD clean up 3rd: Win in 4th: do a check with a usb-stuff:) and there u r :)
[21:20] <guntbert> !ot | thrope
[21:21] <brandon__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/127943/
[21:21] <b1n42y> thrope, benchmarks confirm your statements, get ups if you ware worried
[21:21] <tekteen> meoblast001: you can not have a black screen of death. microsoft copywrighted "of death"
[21:22] <tekteen> brandon__: now try: make
[21:22] <_VIM_> tekteen: they did? That wouldnt shock me at all
[21:22] <_VIM_> :P
[21:22] <meoblast001> tekteen: ahh it's cuz my ram is brkoe
[21:22] <brandon__> k
[21:22] <LjL> _Whipper__: well, you didn't format it thoroughly enough, or clearly there wouldn't be any piece of Ubuntu left anywhere.
[21:22] <brandon__> so did that make the directory?
[21:22] <tekteen> _VIM_: they have "blue screen..." and "red ring..."
[21:22] <brandon__> or whatd that do, lol
[21:22] <tekteen> brandon__: compile
[21:23] <tekteen> brandon__: now type: make install (pastebin the output)
[21:23] <{bosco}> i conncect to the internet via ath0 (wireless connection) i autmaticly connect in ubuntu but when i go over to e17 and try to connect via terminal i cannot why is that?? i run gnome by default???
[21:24] <brandon__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/127948/
[21:24] <LjL> {bosco}: possibly because it has no way of asking you for the wireless key (or rather, the password that the gnome keyring usese)
[21:25] <tekteen> brandon__: I made a mistake. do: sudo make install (then type in your pass and pastebin the output)
[21:25] <LogicFan> anyone here familiar with vobcopy?
[21:25] <b1n42y> {bosco}, whats e17?
[21:25] <_Whipper__> ljl: true.. u just cant trust no-one.. even if they promise to "clean-up" your disk by over-writing it a 1000 times :P
[21:25] <mac9416> Gentelmen, if I want to set up a basic wireless network configuration for sharing files, multiplayer games, etc. all I need is a router and a few matching adapters, correct?
[21:25] <_Whipper__> the only way is the old way...
[21:25] <brandon__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/127952/
[21:25] <LjL> mac9416: i think so. actually you could do without the router (although i wouldn't recommend it i guess)
[21:26] <hubertb_> mac9416, yep
[21:26] <guntbert> _Whipper__: are you certain to be on topic here?
[21:26] <mac9416> LjL: How could I do without a router? And its $50 pricetag BTW.
[21:26] <tekteen> brandon__: very good :-). I think we are done. I do not even know what that does, but whatever it is, you have not installed and compiled it. Restart your machine to see if it works
[21:26] <b1n42y> mac9416, games arent terrribly good on wireless
[21:27] <hubertb_> mac9416, you could use a so called "ad-hoc-network"
[21:27] <brandon__> k ill brb
[21:27] <{bosco}> LjL, no wireless key b1n42y a windows manager much more graphical than gnome
[21:27] <LjL> mac9416: you can use (most?) network cards in "ad-hoc" mode, where they just talk to one another. my network is set up like that (mostly because i can't be bothered picking up a router)
[21:27] <LjL> {bosco}: err, you have an open network?
[21:27] <guntbert> tekteen: you wanted to say "now" not " not" :)
[21:27] <b1n42y> {bosco}, hmmm you could try wicd
[21:27] <mac9416> OK, and are games fast enough on a 54mbps wireless?
[21:28] <tekteen> guntbert: typo :-)
[21:28] <r33tfux0r> Greetings.  My monitor is no longer being detected properly (unknown device) and my resolution choices are incorrect.  I am running 8.10.  I checked xorg.conf and tried to reconfigure the server to no avail.
[21:28] <LjL> mac9416: actually there's a theoretical *advantage* in using ad-hoc mode for games: lower latency. although there's probably a bunch of disadvantages.
[21:28] <{bosco}> LjL, no i have mac filtering and and wireless essid turned off then there is no need for keys
[21:28] <guntbert> tekteen: ;-)
[21:28] <{bosco}> b1n42y, is wicd a windows manager or what is that never heard of it
[21:28] <b1n42y> mac9416, i used to play CS:S and people complained of their wireless, research on google
[21:28] <LjL> mac9416: one disadvantage for instance is that you're limited to 11Mbps - although cards often allow you to override that
[21:28] <b1n42y> {bosco}, wicd = alternative NM
[21:29] <tekteen> guntbert: sometimes I wish I could just ssh and do it for them ;-)
[21:29] <LjL> {bosco}: you couldn't be more wrong. MACs can be spoofed with one single command, and most network scanners couldn't care less whether or not you're broadcasting ssids.
[21:29] <r33tfux0r> I dont understand why its doing this because my monitor showed up perfect during instal time
[21:29] <r33tfux0r> now GDM comes up black and my rez once i enter gnome is low and my choices to increase are gone
[21:30] <{bosco}> LjL, i understand that but where i live no one will be trying that anytime soon trust me
[21:30] <{bosco}> LjL, what is that command anyways lol
[21:30] <tekteen> {bosco}: ifconfig
[21:30] <hubertb_> {bosco}, ifconfig eth0 hw ether $MAC or something like that
[21:30] <guntbert> tekteen: I know that feeling but we all learn only by doing things ourselves, not by getting them done for us :-)
[21:30] <LjL> {bosco}: get yourself informed about wireless security (and the amount of people who DO go around hijacking network connections just about *anywhere*), and you'll find out.
[21:31] <b1n42y> {bosco}, there is no advantage of not having encryption, the overheads are minimal
[21:31] <zeronimo> look a this clever colombian company stealing edubuntu's logo: http://www.forumabogadosyconsultores.com/home.htm
[21:31] <{bosco}> LjL, then what is stoping them from keys the only SAFE  is to have it turned off and unpluged lol
[21:31] <tekteen> guntbert: sometimes, I do so much, that they are just cp and pasting my cmds
[21:31] <LjL> zeronimo: we couldn't care less.
[21:31] <{bosco}> i understand all of the ifconfig
[21:31] <{bosco}> stuff
[21:31] <brandon__> all the driver so that now i can do the whole getting it to work in mixxx thing?
[21:31] <{bosco}> i run my own vps LjL
[21:31] <brandon__> hey tek did that install
[21:31] <tekteen> brandon__: is whatever hardware working?
[21:31] <quantumkenny> Ubuntu 8.10/Firefox 3:  dns seems really slow always "looking up" then an instant connection - any ideas?
[21:31] <r33tfux0r> {bosco}, mac filtering and no beacon isnt foolproof is what i think they mean lol
[21:32] <{bosco}> so it doesnt matter what i do the hacker still still get in if he wants to LjL  at least i am stopping the stuped ones form just acedently connecting
[21:32] <tekteen> brandon__: what was it btw
[21:32] <LjL> {bosco}: what's stopping them from keys? of course the fact there's encryption. but clearly you won't even try to understand any of this, so i'm done with this conversation.
[21:32] <b1n42y> quantumkenny, make sure ipv6 is disabled, causes issues for some ppl
[21:32] <brandon__> i dunno that was the alsa driver that we did but i think i have a few more steps
[21:32] <tekteen> {bosco}: just enable wep or wpa. I know how to hack them. but no one wants to spend the time doing it
[21:32] <funny-man> Test
[21:32] <b1n42y> tekteen, wep is much more unsafe
[21:32] <tekteen> brandon__: have fun :-)
[21:33] <quantumkenny> b1n42y: how to disable ipv6, is it in the forums
[21:33] <hubertb_> {bosco}, they could steal you're data (inlcuding your passwords) by just sniffing - you wouldn even recognize it
[21:33] <tekteen> b1n42y: I know, but in the end, it does not matter
[21:33] <guntbert> tekteen: still, its instructive for many (including the 'experts') - but I'm afraid we're drifting towards off topic by now :-))
[21:33] <{bosco}> LjL, i understand all of that but there are ways around them so what is the point why would someone want to hack onto my network anyways really no one is going to get anything
[21:33] <brandon__> k well thx for helping
[21:33] <b1n42y> quantumkenny, its in firefox, google, you know about:config ...
[21:33] <LjL> {bosco}: oh, say, use it for illegal purposes. you'll know that when the police knocks at your door of course.
[21:34] <quantumkenny> b1n42y:  yes, I do, thanks
[21:34] <{bosco}> LjL, well ok but i am not worried about all of that i live far out from anyone
[21:34] <brandon__> hey tek do u happen to know where i can get the ubuntu virtual box
[21:34] <tekteen> b1n42y: {bosco}: the truth is. you should just use wpa. I have hacked them. but I only do it in places that I am for long periods of time regularly. your best defence is to be better protected then others around you
[21:35] <tekteen> brandon__: what do you mean?
[21:35] <quantumkenny> b1n42y:  i already did disable it in firefox
[21:35] <{bosco}> tekteen, right i nderstand that
[21:35] <brandon__> i heard you have to get a ubuntu virtual box, ima try another way around using ubuntu and virtual box instead of using it on my defualt vista
[21:36] <kushalone> Hi. Is there a way for me to find whether my lexmark x2480 inkjet printer scanner will work under Ubuntu? It works in XP but it does not have Mac OS X drivers. Please let me know ...
[21:36] <crdlb> tekteen: 'hacked them' you mean essid hiding and MAC filtering?
[21:36] <brandon__> i heard people got there usb devices top work that way
[21:36] <tekteen> {bosco}: all the others hurt more then they help
[21:36] <brandon__> that virtual pc program
[21:36] <tekteen> crdlb: and bute forcing wpa, and breaking wep
[21:36] <LjL> ok i have to call this offtopic
[21:36] <LjL> i know i engaged in it too - but still.
[21:36] <b1n42y> quantumkenny, hmm then see what your local is set at, gotta go play tennis, if that doesnt work ask your question again
[21:37] <guntbert> !hardware | kushalone
[21:37] <hubertb_> brandon__, www.virtualbox.org ?
[21:37] <quantumkenny> thx
[21:37] <kushalone> wow that was quick guntbert thanks
[21:37] <brandon__> yes do i just apt-get install virtualbox-2.1
[21:37] <guntbert> kushalone: I hope you find what you need
[21:38] <kushalone> I guickly got to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScannersLexmark and I am looking
[21:38] <hubertb_> brandon__, this should do the trick :-)
[21:38] <_Whipper__> gunther: well..  perhaps it was a bit offline.. but lin in evercase..
[21:38] <LjL> kushalone: for printers, an extremely good resource is http://www.linuxfoundation.org/en/OpenPrinting (although the fact that a printer works in "Linux" in general may not necessarily mean it'll work in Ubuntu, but)
[21:38] <_Whipper__> every
[21:38] <brandon__> brb
[21:39] <kushalone> OK, 2250 is not supported. no word specifically on 2480 ...
[21:39] <LjL> kushalone: for the scanner part, see also http://www.sane-project.org/sane-supported-devices.html
[21:40] <kushalone> thanks, LjL I am looking into it right now. I am not getting my hopes to high though.
[21:40] <slashus2> I think a recent update introduced a regression in the intel driver.  I am getting "(EE) intel(0): underrun on pipe B!" Quite frequently, which introduces a sudden jittering of a the screen and then goes back to normal.  I suspect that the recent update that caused it was an update to libdrm
[21:40] <felixsulla> How do I make a clickable shortcut to Gnome terminal which opens in a specific folder then runs a command (Starting the python interpreter)
[21:41] <LjL> kushalone: it's not supported at all, forget it
[21:41] <kushalone> OK, printer is a paperweight. Looking for the scanner part
[21:41] <tekteen> felixsulla: I am looking it up
[21:41] <LjL> kushalone: the scanner isn't supported either
[21:42] <kamikaze> hey guys
[21:42] <kamikaze> i got a problem with the alpha of ubuntu :)
[21:42] <LjL> kushalone: (keep also in mind, if you haven't checked this already, that Lexmark printers tend to be cheap *but* have very expensive ink cartriges)(
[21:42] <kamikaze> maybe some 1 can help
[21:42] <kushalone> thanks for looking it up for me. I had barely found http://www.openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Lexmark-X2480 when you found both of them
[21:42] <LjL> !alpha | kamikaze
[21:42] <tekteen> create a shortcut that starts the cmd gnome-terminal -x python
[21:42] <LjL> !jaunty | kamikaze
[21:42] <tekteen> felixsulla:  create a shortcut that starts the cmd gnome-terminal -x python
[21:42] <kamikaze> ubuntu + 1?
[21:43] <LjL> kamikaze: #ubuntu+1 yes
[21:43] <kamikaze> thats the channel for the alpha?
[21:43] <felixsulla> tekteen thank you sir!
[21:43] <ubuntiana> ragazzi scusate ma qual'è il canale per ubuntu?
[21:43] <Dr_willis_AAO> #ubuntu+1
[21:43] <kushalone> LjL, I understand. I did not buy the printer, though. It was a gift. I am not terribly worried for it.
[21:43] <tekteen> felixsulla: np
[21:43] <LjL> ubuntiana: quello italiano è #ubuntu-it
[21:43] <TaG^> what does this mean Run it as Root?
[21:43] <LjL> kamikaze: yes
[21:43] <felixsulla> tekteen:  What does the -x do?
[21:43] <kamikaze> kk tyvm :) cya
[21:43] <felixsulla> execute?
[21:43] <LjL> kushalone: ah, i thought you were *investigating* whether to buy it.
[21:43] <tekteen> felixsulla: yeah
[21:43] <xapt> Hello, I am a brand new user to the Ubuntu community and I need to try and get my wireless internet connection working.  I have a dell Latitude d620 - Can somebody help send me in the right direction please?
[21:44] <hubertb_> TaG^, you need to run it with superuser rights
[21:44] <LjL> TaG^: "root" is shorthand for the user that can do anything.
[21:44] <LjL> !sudo > tag^    (tag^, see the private message from ubottu)
[21:44] <felixsulla> tekteen: Would it be like cmd /home/myname/whateverfolderiwant -x python
[21:44] <felixsulla> er..
[21:45] <Kriss3d> Uhmm networkingmanager isnt starting by itself. how would i make it do that ?
[21:45] <xapt> Better yet, what kind of Ubuntu is currently running - do we call it feisty?
[21:45] <felixsulla> tekteen: cmd /home/targetfolder gnome-terminal -x python
[21:45] <tekteen> felixsulla: what?
[21:45] <xapt> WHat is the latest version of Ubuntu's nick name - feisty?
[21:45] <Jordan_U> felixsulla: To start python in a specific directory make that: sh -c "cd path/to/direcotry" && exec python
[21:45] <tekteen> felixsulla: what target folder
[21:46] <kushalone> I tried Ubuntu (live cd, 8.10 I think) on Parallels 4 on Intel MacBook 10.4.11 I was unable to connect to the Internet. Is virtualization fair game here? If not, please link me to the proper channel, thanks
[21:46] <LinuxUser_> Hi are there someone there knows why this code comes up when im trying to visit a website, this is the code "
[21:46] <LinuxUser_> Warning: require_once(HTML/QuickForm/DHTMLRulesTableless.php) [function.require-once]: failed to open stream: No such file or directory in /usr/hosting/danishbits.org/wwwdocs/www/signup.php on line 10
[21:46] <LinuxUser_> Fatal error: require_once() [function.require]: Failed opening required 'HTML/QuickForm/DHTMLRulesTableless.php' (include_path='.:/usr/share/php/') in /usr/hosting/danishbits.org/wwwdocs/www/signup.php on line 10"
[21:46] <FloodBot2> LinuxUser_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:46] <hubertb_> xapt, Ubuntu 8.10 - the Intrepid Ibex - released in October 2008			
[21:46] <felixsulla> tekteen: I want it to start the terminal in a specific folder, then start python there.
[21:46] <LjL> LinuxUser_: the site is broken.
[21:46] <Jordan_U> felixsulla: Sorry, quotes should be around everything after sh -c, so: sh -c "cd path/to/direcotry && exec python"
[21:46] <xapt> hubertb_: Thanks
[21:46] <Kriss3d> LinuxUser_,  youre trying to access danishbits.org (torrent tracker) and its broken. not your fault
[21:46] <hubertb_> xapt, you're welcome :-)
[21:46] <tekteen> felixsulla: gnome-terminal -x cd /targetdir;python
[21:47] <Veinor> i noticed that with my new keyboard, some of the special media keys don't seem to have corresponding XF86 keys, so I can't get them to do stuff under keyboard shortcuts or whatever
[21:47] <Veinor> is there any way for me to fix this?
[21:47] <tekteen> felixsulla: no
[21:47] <LinuxUser_> Kriss3d:  ohh .. so its the page theres down ?
[21:47] <tekteen> felixsulla: gnome-terminal -x 'cd /targetdir;python'
[21:47] <LjL> LinuxUser_: two of us already told you so. YES.
[21:48] <glymph> Veinor: try running  "xev" and pressing them, that'll show if they're recognised; how you set them up is beyond my understanding, though;  if you're lucky, you can just use the shortcut manager in gnome.
[21:48] <Kriss3d> LinuxUser_,  i just tried accessing it and i got in just fine.. that is.. at danishbits.org .. didnt go any further.. does it come at a certain url ?
[21:48] <felixsulla> tekteen: Is there a way to make the command line window that opens have a custom title also?
[21:48] <quantumkenny> all:  Ubuntu 8.10/Firefox... slow DNS in firefox .. slows up on "looking up"    IP 6 disabled in both the browser and OS
[21:48] <Veinor> glymph: yeah, that's what I meant. they're not showing up under xev
[21:48] <tekteen> felixsulla: I will look in the man page. I suggest you learn to read it to :-)
[21:48] <LinuxUser_> Kriss3d: yes, when you try to sign up
[21:48] <quantumkenny> any ideas?
[21:49] <glymph> sorry Veinor, I don't know then.
[21:49] <felixsulla> tekteen: did you just man gnome-terminal?
[21:49] <Kriss3d> LinuxUser_,  then i bet its cause the site has problems tats all
[21:49] <xapt> I am trying to make my wireless work and I don't really know where to start.  I don't even know if Ubuntu knows about my wireless card - is there a device listing or something?  I have a Dell Latitude D620 and would like to find out how to make this wireless work.  Anyone have an idea of where I can start on this?
[21:49] <NeoDragon> I used one of the how to's in the ubuntu forums to install the drivers for my atheros wireless card in intrepid and it works great.
[21:49] <tekteen> felixsulla: yes
[21:49] <NeoDragon> but now
[21:49] <tekteen> felixsulla: -t "A Title"
[21:49] <LinuxUser_> Kriss3d: ohhh okay .. well thanks for your help ! :)
[21:49] <NeoDragon> It will only connect at 1 mb per second
[21:49] <NeoDragon> even though it is g wireless
[21:50] <NeoDragon> how can I get it to connect at a higher speed
[21:50] <kingnerd> http://kingnerd.homelinux.net:29180/gui password reddit/linux Add any Linux torrents you want seeded
[21:50] <tekteen> felixsulla: gnome-terminal -t "A Title" -x 'cd /target/dir;python'
[21:50] <kingnerd> that's my web UI... seed without wasting bandwidth
[21:50] <Veinor> ah well
[21:51] <tekteen> felixsulla: anything else you need?
[21:51] <xapt> okay nevermind - Ubuntu is the best... I finally found it... its installing automatically :D
[21:51] <ChrizC> hey, say if I had two drives, C and M. say if I had windows installed on C, and M formatted for windows, if I wiped C and installed ubuntu on it, would I need to reformat M to see it inside Ubuntu?
[21:51] <Kriss3d> tekteen,  would you hapen to know how i have a ubuntu automaticly start networkingmanager on startup ?
[21:52] <felixsulla> tekteen: Got this error: There was an error creating the child process for this terminal
[21:52] <tekteen> felixsulla: a cleaner way: gnome-terminal --working-directory "/target/dir" -t "A Title" -x "python"
[21:52] <Jordan_U> ChrizC: No
[21:52] <LjL> ChrizC: no, Ubuntu can read both the FAT and NTFS Windows fielsystem formats
[21:52] <Kriss3d> ChrizC, ubuntu can easily see ntfs
[21:52] <tekteen> felixsulla: try my last thing
[21:52] <Kriss3d> really nice too actually
[21:52] <ChrizC> good good :D
[21:52] <ChrizC> cheers
[21:52] <tekteen> felixsulla: I need to go
[21:52] <felixsulla> tek: thenk you
[21:52] <felixsulla> tekteen: Thanks for your help!
[21:52] <Hell_Noire> can someone help me configure Samba so I can dump to Linux as well as copy back from
[21:53] <LjL> !samba > Hell_Noire    (Hell_Noire, see the private message from ubottu)
[21:53] <xapt> Thanks everyone
[21:53] <Hell_Noire> LjL, I'm sorry, I don't follow
[21:53] <LjL> kushalone: floodbot is a BOT, like the name says. ask the channel instead.
[21:53] <NeoDragon> can any one help me with a wireless card issue for intrepid?
[21:54] <LjL> Hell_Noire: you have received a private message from the Ubottu bot, with a link explaining how to use Samba.
[21:54] <meho_r> NeoDragon, try with a direct question
[21:54] <Hell_Noire> LjL, Alright, I'll give it a look over
[21:55] <guntbert> Kriss3d: did you activate nm-applet into the panel?
[21:55] <NeoDragon> I can't seem to get my atheros5007 card to connect to my router at anything higher then 1MB/sec even though both are G wireless
[21:55] <Kriss3d> guntbert,  uhmm nm-applet ?
[21:55] <NeoDragon> I am using intrepid
[21:56] <softwarejonas> I need help with OPENGL OVERLAYS. When I play a movie, or start glxgears, and the window is not active or covered by other windows, the overlay is still shown. How can I change that (Jaundy)?
[21:56] <Kriss3d> NeoDragon,  try update the drivers.. youre lucky to have such a neat wifi.. its got possiblities
[21:56] <guntbert> Kriss3d: network-manager applett :)
[21:56] <NeoDragon> I just updated the drivers to the most recent
[21:57] <NeoDragon> I used the how to found in the ubuntu forums
[21:57] <kushalone> LjL, I did not want to write the same questions too many times. I was just goofing around while waiting for an answer. I am sorry if the Bot forwarded you the messages.
[21:57] <Kriss3d> guntbert,  well yes.. its a green globe (though at first its grey due to it saying networking manager isnt started
[21:58] <Kriss3d> i think i need to read up on how to start things in the rc.. cause ill need a firewall started as well
[21:58] <hubertb_> NeoDragon, just try switching to a different channel (maybe you're neighbor also got a wifi-router now...)
[21:58] <draginxx> My ISP keeps closing the connection off of ssh (even with sftp) after inactive of 30 seconds, I need more than this. Is there anyway to create an automatic ping to the server or a better way to keep the connection going despite my isp trying to kill my connection?
[21:58] <hafsi> every thing is on that rc folder
[21:58] <hafsi> There is a readme there , I think
[21:59] <Dr_willis_AAO> draginxx,  ive seen ssh sites/tips that do that.. but i dont rember the trick
[21:59] <softwarejonas> OPENGL overlay for background windows, anyone?
[21:59] <fool_> hey guys is there a nice equivalance for bandwidth ?
[21:59] <hubertb_> draginxx, try using the tool "screen" (apt-get install screen) - go to the man page before using it
[21:59] <hafsi> just make a cron script that pings the server every while
[21:59] <draginxx> hubertb_, how will this help me keep the connection up..?
[21:59] <guntbert> !who | hafsi
[22:00] <draginxx> Dr_willis_AAO, any idea on what to google though? :S
[22:00] <Dr_willis_AAO> ssh  keep alive
[22:00] <hubertb_> draginxx, I configured screen to show me the systems clock with seconds, so I get packets from my server continously
[22:00] <Hell_Noire> LjL, I don't understand what it's trying to get me to do with fstab
[22:00] <Dr_willis_AAO> make a little script that pings some site  and launch it to the background
[22:00] <hubertb_> draginxx, maybe this could also help you with your issue
[22:01] <Dr_willis_AAO> draginxx,  the 'sing' ping variant is handy for this
[22:01] <draginxx> hubertb_, ahh very crafty heh, what do u think of this? http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/02/03/keeping-ssh-sessions-alive/
[22:02] <anon> some1 can help me putting the xbox connecting to the internet through ubuntu ?
[22:02] <hubertb_> draginxx, thats the "boring"-solution ;-)
[22:02] <draginxx> hubertb_, on my link, you wouldnt happen to be "fred" would you? ;)
[22:02] <draginxx> hubertb_, meh as long as it works :P
[22:02] <Hell_Noire> LjL, I don't understand what it wants me to do with FStab, mind helping me there?
[22:02] <anon> yes hubertb_ i'm still on the same problem
[22:02] <softwarejonas> how can i disable opengl overlays for background windows?
[22:03] <anon> hubertb_: xbox tells me that it is connecting to the pc, but not to the internet.
[22:03] <Kriss3d> whats the program sessions called ? where i add programs to be run at startup ?
[22:03] <Kriss3d> my gui is difrrent so i cant find it where its supposed to be
[22:03] <softwarejonas> Kriss3d, the program is now called "Startup Applications" in Jaundy...
[22:04] <hafsi> kriss3d : go to /etc/rc[num].d and then read the readme there
[22:04] <Notch[1]> does anybody know why the tab completion limit (that i'm assuming is for not overload the system or flood the user) does not prevent me to wait 10 seconds until the confirmation message appear?
[22:04] <rconan> I deleted my /etc/samba directory... how can I get the default config files back?
[22:04] <hubertb_> anon, well if inet is working on your middle-box and ipmasq is up and running and youre xbox default-gw is set up properly... damn i'm just out of ideas
[22:05] <d_dyer> Hello, I just installed Boxee for Linux, I am running Ubuntu 8.10 and followed there instructions but when i attemp to open boxee it says starting Boxee but after that nothing,Does anyone have any ideas?
[22:05] <Kriss3d> hafsi,  well i wouldnt know which one to add for which script..
[22:05] <softwarejonas> rconan: sudo dpkg-reconfigure samba
[22:05] <rconan> softwarejonas: /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: samba is broken or not fully installed.
[22:05] <guntbert> Notch[1]: I don't understand what you are talking about
[22:06] <hafsi>  Kriss3d, I think if you want to play with those rc folders you should a little bit about system run levels at boot time
[22:06] <Mike94287> I used to use Photoshop back when I was on Windows, but now that I use Ubuntu I want to get used to GIMP. The only problem is, I don't like that it's separated into three windows. Is there a way I can make it so it's all one window?
[22:06] <Kriss3d> hafsi,  yeah ill read up on it
[22:06] <softwarejonas> rconan: did you build it from source?
[22:06] <rconan> softwarejonas: I tried reinstalling it to get the conf files back but it failed at the configure stage of spkg
[22:06] <rconan> s/spkg/dpkg
[22:06] <SiDi> Mike94287, yeh, there's a plugin somewhere on the net
[22:07] <_VIM_> isnt that gimpshop?
[22:07] <Mike94287> SiDi: Do you know where I can get it?
[22:07] <d_dyer> _VIM_ yes it is
[22:07] <d_dyer> Mike94287: Google "Gimp Shop" i am new to linux so i dont know alot about it et
[22:07] <softwarejonas> rconan: did you use the package manager or apt-get ? or did you download and build the source?
[22:07] <SiDi> http://www.gimpshop.com/ Mike94287
[22:08] <Notch[1]> guntbert: it i write "g" and press tab it takes 10 seconds befor the "display all N possibilities? (y or n)" appears, how to avoid this delay?
[22:08] <rconan> softwarejonas: I used apt-get
[22:08] <rconan> it's ubuntu-server...
[22:08] <Mike94287> SiDi: Is it up to date?
[22:09] <SiDi> Mike94287, no idea. there are other ones like that though.
[22:09] <softwarejonas> rconan: try to "sudo apt-get remove --purge samba" first .... but you will get rid of all samba configuration/etc... files.
[22:10] <nigtv> hi, is anyone aware of a way to sync the system clock with the time servers in console?
[22:10] <Notch[1]> guntbert: and more than anything: why ask, if it takes some times (usually too much) just to display the question?
[22:10] <guntbert> Notch[1]: ah, press <tab> a second time (I guess I never waited long enough) (we are talking about terminal?)
[22:10] <ma3x> why my laptop has only sound when i plugin the headphones? when i plug them out, there is no sound from the speakers coming out
[22:11] <rconan> softwarejonas: still failed installing
[22:11] <gpr> nigtv: ntpdate
[22:11] <softwarejonas> rconan: any error messages?
[22:11] <nigtv> gpr gotcha lemme check it owt
[22:11] <rogue780> I just installed ubuntu on a system with an ide drive as primary master, and then a sata drive as well. the sata drive is mounted at /data/share and the ide drive is the / partition. When it starts to boot it gives me an error 2, which I believe is a partition not found error. I believe this is because ubuntu's installer detects the drives in a different order then grub...how do I edit grub to detect them in the right order?
[22:11] <Notch[1]> guntbert: yes i mean terminal, but event tty1 shell for example..
[22:11] <arooni-mobile> how do i make vim the default editor for crontab and svn?
[22:11] <Notch[1]> even
[22:11] <rconan> softwarejonas: http://rafb.net/p/UcpEHM70.html
[22:11] <avances-123> hello, im on a clean intrepid install, whith which command can i uninstall all gui to make mi old pc only a console server?
[22:11] <nigtv> gpr: No servers can be used, exiting
[22:11] <rconan> the config files still aren't there
[22:12] <nigtv> avances-123: you mean how to get it to boot into console?
[22:12] <nigtv> you may not want to get rid of the gui
[22:12] <gpr> nigtv: ntpdate ip_address_of_time_server
[22:12] <SiDi> rogue780, all edits to grub are in /boot/grub/menu.lst . if you want help, you should paste this file and also the output of "sudo fdisk -l" in the pastebin, so people can try to diagnose what's wrong
[22:12] <SiDi> !paste
[22:12] <guntbert> Notch[1]: ok (I was not sure if you were not talking about irc), try pressing tab twice
[22:12] <avances-123> nigtv: want to uninstall gnome and all graphic stuff
[22:12] <Notch[1]> guntbert: ah sorry
[22:12] <nigtv> gpr: any idea how i go about getting that?
[22:12] <rogue780> SiDi, i would if I could boot that computer
[22:13] <nigtv> avances-123: im not so sure about how to do that, but i do know how to make it only boot into conlose first
[22:13] <SiDi> avances-123, you should have used ubuntu server install :p just remove x.org and all apps that require it and you should be ok
[22:13] <SiDi> rogue780, use a livecd, mount the linux partition, and edit the file ;)
[22:13] <softwarejonas> rconan: what does "sudo /etc/init.d/samba status" return?
[22:13] <gpr> nigtv: ntpdate pool.ntp.org
[22:13]  * nigtv looks on the internet for the ntpdate ip
[22:14] <avances-123> SiDi: cant install server because hd driver problem
[22:14] <nigtv> lol almost exact same time gpr
[22:14] <rogue780> SiDi, I've been downloading the livecd for hte last 3 hrs. half way there.
[22:14] <guntbert> Notch[1]: np, does that <tab><tab> work for you?
[22:14] <rogue780> All I currently have is the server install
[22:14] <rconan> softwarejonas: ok... the obvious... /etc/samba/* belong to samba-common not samba
[22:14] <SiDi> avances-123, i see.. well, remove the xorg packages (i don't know the exact name), and when it cries that many apps require it, remove them too ! :)
[22:14] <Notch[1]> guntbert: anyway with twice tab i still have to wait so much
[22:14] <SiDi> avances-123, i suppose you only try to gain some space ?
[22:14] <nigtv> 605311167 second off set YIKES
[22:14] <SiDi> rogue780, slow connection, hm ? :/
[22:15] <rogue780> SiDi, maybe I'll download DSL real quick. My internet = fail
[22:15] <softwarejonas> rconan: i have samba and it returns:
[22:15] <softwarejonas> $ sudo /etc/init.d/samba status
[22:15] <softwarejonas>  * nmbd is running
[22:15] <softwarejonas>  * smbd is running
[22:15] <rogue780> ever since the snow storm comcast has been connecting at 128kbps
[22:15] <FloodBot2> softwarejonas: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:15] <avances-123> sidi im trying to gain more cpu time
[22:15] <nigtv> yea it seems kind of wierd to get rid of all of that stuff if you already have it and youre not short on space
[22:15] <SiDi> avances-123, well if you shutdown gdm i don't see what this will make you lose
[22:15] <rconan> softwarejonas: I fixed it... the config files belong to a different package...
[22:15] <guntbert> Notch[1]: strange, I see it at once
[22:16] <softwarejonas> rconan: okay.
[22:16] <SiDi> avances-123, if you want your pc to boot in shell, just change the rc level to 3 (dont ask me how, i forgot :P)
[22:16] <nigtv> i know how to SiDi
[22:16] <nigtv> you go into uhm
[22:16] <nigtv> ah shoot lol i might have to check the dirs
[22:16] <nigtv> you need to grab tty1, copy it into tty0 (or mv)
[22:17] <guntbert> SiDi: that doesn't work in ubuntu, gdm is started in all runlevels
[22:17] <SiDi> guntbert, oh...
[22:17] <nigtv> then change the last line in tty0 to tty0 instead of tty1
[22:17] <Notch[1]> guntbert: sometimes, when the possibilities are more than 1000 i have to wait 20 seconds...
[22:17] <nigtv> then you go to /etc/r2c.d (i think thats it) and delets S30GDM
[22:17] <nigtv> that will make it boot into tty0 console
[22:17] <softwarejonas> how can i disable opengl overlays for background windows?
[22:17] <SiDi> avances-123, guntbert "sudo update-rc.d gdm remove" should make you boot in shell, right ?
[22:18] <nigtv> SiDi: that too
[22:18] <Duz> Hello everyone
[22:18] <timo> hi is there any new beta of ubuntu one can test out
[22:18] <SiDi> hello Duz
[22:18] <guntbert> sorry Notch[1], I have no idea :-(
[22:18] <Notch[1]> guntbert: i tough it was a common behavior, i'm getting this everywere..i just want to avoid this lag, do you know why it takes so long? it is for counting the possibilities?
[22:18] <chazco> Hi... i want to triple boot Vista (for MS Office), Ubuntu 8.04 (for wifi) and 8.10 (for linux stuff with no wifi)... i have a separate /home, will it be safe to have both versions of Ubuntu use it?
[22:18] <SiDi> timo, there is jaunty's alpha, see #ubuntu+1
[22:18] <softwarejonas> timo: you can test jackalope jaundy.
[22:18] <draginxx> Dr_willis_AAO, what did u mean by the sing ping variant?
[22:18] <Dwade09> ok i need help, i am trying to install grub, to get the dual boot menu, for xp and vista, ##windows can not help, i am in dos mode cd into the grub folder. what are the commands to install it on xp, through the dos command window
[22:18] <bombshelter13_> NigelS: no, you move it to K70gdm
[22:18] <bombshelter13_> nigtv ^
[22:18] <_Whipper__> chazo: buy a couple more cmputers..
[22:18] <SiDi> chazco, what about fixing wifi in 8.10 and installing MS Office in Wine in 8.10 and making your life simpler ? :)
[22:19] <nigtv> avances-123: okay, the file tty0 and tty1 one are in /dev
[22:19] <nigtv> bombshelter13_: oh? i did what i said above and it worked alright but
[22:19] <DIFH-iceroot> !acroread
[22:19] <chazco> SiDi - Wifi is broken in 8.10, major bug reports but no progress... tried Office in Crossover, very poor performance :(
[22:19] <nigtv> i still just backed it up instead of removing it
[22:20] <DIFH-iceroot> am i blind or is there no acroread anymore in the repos?
[22:20] <abe3k> fusion
[22:20] <Dr_willis_AAO> draginxx,  i mean  install/read the docs for and test out 'sing'
[22:20] <_Whipper__> chazo:broken.. u mean your wlan-chip is burned?
[22:20] <guntbert> Notch[1]: no, I've never seen that behaviour
[22:20] <SiDi> chazco, if i were you i'd use 8.04 as a main system then, and use PPA's for getting recent versions of apps.. and did you try ms office in wine ? i don't know about performance but its said to run without bugs
[22:20] <Dr_willis_AAO> draginxx,  its a scriptable ping variant
[22:20] <Notch[1]> guntbert: ah strange, but thanks anyway
[22:20] <draginxx> ah ok, thanks :)
[22:20] <LjjjL> i was using my eeepc when i realized the /home drive was in read-only mode. i had this in syslog (including what came after a reboot): http://paste.ubuntu.com/127979/ - how likely is it that my SSD is quickly going?
[22:21] <softwarejonas> how can i disable opengl overlays for background windows?
[22:21] <timo> thank u guys
[22:21] <SiDi> DIFH-iceroot, you're blind. :)
[22:21] <Dr_willis_AAO> !info sing
[22:21] <DIFH-iceroot> SiDi: all repos in 8.04 are enabled (multiverse and so on) apt-get update & apt-cache search acroread == nothing
[22:21] <chazco> SiDi - I didnt notice any major bugs when i tried it, but performance under Ubuntu was much worse than under Vista... may try using 8.04 for the main system - think most of my stuff worked on it
[22:22] <Notch[1]> and another question: why i can't see any php4 package? only php5, i remember both in the repository, what changed?
[22:22] <LjjjL> Notch[1]: 4 has been dropped  in the latest versions of ubuntu
[22:22] <Kriss3d> i hate php.. its automaticly sanitizing inputs
[22:22] <epifanio> hi All
[22:23] <Kriss3d> hi
[22:23] <_Whipper__> ho
[22:23] <Duz> 951.2 kb down on ubuntu torrent... yay :)
[22:24] <nigtv> avances-123: cp /dev/tty1 /dv/tty0 , then make the last line in tty0 say tty0 instead of tty1 , then mv /etc/rc2.d/S30gdm /etc/rc2.d/S30_gdm-backup
[22:24] <silentContender> Can some one explain why I cannot login to my computer?
[22:24] <epifanio> i've compiled after a lot of debugging an application from source (also some dependencies too) ... can you suggest me an easy way to create an ubuntu package for it ?
[22:24] <DIFH-iceroot> SiDi: i am not blind, acroread is in medibuntu which is not in /etc/apt/sources.list
[22:24] <Kriss3d> silentContender,  uhmm did you change your password ?
[22:24] <nigtv> okay i have dogs to eat
[22:24] <nigtv> while they are still hot
[22:24] <nigtv> adios see yall when i see yalll
[22:25] <silentContender> Kriss3d, No the password is fine, it just that when I login, I instantly logout (or something like that)
[22:25] <Kriss3d> you get kicked off ?? thats odd.. not even windows does that usually
[22:25] <silentContender> Kriss3d, I've work with several others and have not gotten a solution
[22:25] <Notch[1]> LjjjL: yes but php4 scripts does not work with php5, so why? this was the reason why they were both in the repos before...
[22:25] <sunx> hey i'm having problems ssh into a new ubuntu hardy server install, lamp installed, delivers webpage fine, just can not login from another computer via ssh, i get error of connection timed out.
[22:25] <SiDi> DIFH-iceroot, ah sorry, i didn't remember i had medibuntu... :P
[22:26] <softwarejonas> sunx: check the firewalls.
[22:26] <gpr> Kriss3d: something may be wrong with your homefolder, permissions?
[22:26] <DIFH-iceroot> SiDi: np
[22:26] <LjjjL> Notch[1]: actually most php4 things do work with php5. and before making changes that actually break things, php devs *WARN* for a couple of versions that the given feature is deprecated. if one keeps using it, well...
[22:27] <Kriss3d> gpr,  uhmm my homefolder ? why
[22:27] <sunx> softwarejonas: i stop the firewall shorewall , what other firewall  are there?
[22:27] <Nytrix> !ssh
[22:27] <SiDi> sunx, just like that, are you *sure* sshd is running on the serv?
[22:27] <softwarejonas> sunx: on linux there are no preconfigured firewalls....
[22:27] <softwarejonas> sunx: try "ssh localhost" on the remote computer.
[22:27] <chazco> sunx - If you have access to the server try connecting to it via localhost
[22:27] <howtoo> how can I change the $TEMPLATE dir in gnome?
[22:28] <gpr> Kriss3d: have no Idea, but I have seen things like that when user fills quota, or messess permissions. Try login on console?
[22:28] <Kriss3d> gpr,  uhmm it wasnt me who had problems with logging in.
[22:28] <hateball> howtoo: ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs
[22:28] <Notch[1]> LjjjL: yes but "some things" are not my entire past work :D and futhermore the server in witch i have to run this still use php4
[22:28] <howtoo> hateball, thank you very much =)
[22:28] <gpr> Kriss3d: sorry
[22:29] <Kriss3d> no problem
[22:29] <softwarejonas> how can i disable opengl overlays for background windows?
[22:29] <Nytrix> !opengl
[22:31] <guntbert> silentContender: did you read the dialog between  Kriss3d  and gpr ?
[22:31] <chazco> !wicd > chazco
[22:31] <LinuxUser_> Hey guys i have noticed that there are many diferent MSN programs to Linux, wich one do you use ? :)
[22:31] <silentContender> guntbert, Yeah, I check and not that problem
[22:31] <Kriss3d> What the.. some guy (from another channel) pmed me and asked me to help him hack FREENODE.. wtf
[22:32] <softwarejonas> Nytrix: on my laptop (ati graphics card), overlays are shown, even if the window/parent application is covered by other windows... is that normal?
[22:32] <Jordan_U> softwarejonas: Are you using compiz ?
[22:32] <Nytrix> softwarejonas, i dont know im a noob myself
[22:33] <softwarejonas> Jordan_U: yes.
[22:33] <SiDi> Kriss3d, please go to #freenode and tell them, then
[22:33] <Jordan_U> softwarejonas: Then yes that is unfortunately normal, and won't be fixed until fglrx adopts DRI2 ( which I don't see happening for a few years )
[22:33] <lotfi> ciao
[22:34] <Jordan_U> softwarejonas: You can disable compiz though and the problem will go away
[22:34] <guntbert> !it | lotfi
[22:34] <Notch[1]> Kriss3d: hahhahahahaha give him the irc server source and tell him to look for an explit :D
[22:34] <dajxd> I'm running ubuntu on a macbook pro (pretty fresh install) and my USB external keeps being mounted and unmounted over and over again.
[22:34] <softwarejonas> Jordan_U: okay, thank you... then i will have to live with that since my ati card isnt supported by fglrx anymore.
[22:34] <Kriss3d> Well its cause there is CP swapping on this network.. so his intentions are ok.. but he seems to belive the freenode servers is whats holding all the cp..
[22:35] <softwarejonas> Linux_User: http://linuxowns.wordpress.com/2008/05/20/battle-of-the-ims/
[22:35] <Kriss3d> im pretty convinced DCC
[22:35] <Jordan_U> softwarejonas: If your card is supported by the ATI driver then with that ( instead of fglrx ) you might expect DRI2 by 9.10
[22:35] <sheli> Does USB Headsets not work in ubuntu or just certain headsets ?
[22:36] <softwarejonas> Jordan_U: okay, then i still have hope... i am already testing 9.04
[22:36] <ericvw> sheli: Check dmesg when you plug in your headset and see if it is encountering any errors.
[22:36] <Jordan_U> sheli: Just certain Headsets ( though don't ask me how to setup the ones that do work :)
[22:37] <softwarejonas> sheli: try "lsusb"
[22:37] <sheli> k
[22:37] <sheli> ty
[22:38] <sheli> It sees the headset im assuming
[22:38] <softwarejonas> Jordan_U: so all the overlay features are dependent on DRI?
[22:38] <sheli> It shows Microsoft corp in the lsusb results
[22:40] <datapolitical> This is going to make me sound like an idiot. I forgot my password for an old ubuntu installation on my iBook. I can't figure out how to boot into recovery mode (i've tried pressing esc at various times during the book process to no avail)
[22:40] <ltw> Could anyone let me know if there's a file to use osx's dictionary files in Ubuntu? I am transitioning from osx to ubuntu and it seems the gnome dictionary does not have that many dictionaries :(
[22:40] <Notch[1]> LjjjL: anyway, i need php4, how to get it? i'm using ubuntu 8.10
[22:40] <wolter> datapolitical, live CD
[22:40] <datapolitical> k
[22:40] <wolter> datapolitical, change the /boot/grub/menu.lst file
[22:41] <wolter> datapolitical, and uncomment the recovery boot option
[22:41] <LinuxUser_> Hey guys i have noticed that there are many diferent MSN programs to Linux, wich one do you use ? :)
[22:41] <datapolitical> thanks
[22:41] <rottenkid> LinuxUser_: pidgin
[22:41] <wolter> LinuxUser_, pidgin..
[22:41] <nightrid3r> LinuxUser_ pidgin
[22:41] <guntbert> !poll | LinuxUser_
[22:41] <ltw> LinusUser_, or kopete
[22:41] <LinuxUser_> rottenkid:  Why u use that ?
[22:41] <ohletmeinnowjesu> LinuxUser_: gaim
[22:41] <ltw> gaim is pidgin's old name
[22:42] <Kriss3d> pidgin is quite good.. even the windows versin
[22:42] <ltw> adium on mac is even greater
[22:42] <LinuxUser_> wolter:  Why you usse pidgin ?
[22:42] <wolter> ltw, what?
[22:42] <wolter> no.
[22:42] <Jordan_U> softwarejonas: Well, video overlay doesn't make sense in a composited environment so you don't actually use video overlay with compiz.
[22:42] <guntbert> !ot
[22:42] <wolter> LinuxUser_, because it supports all my account types and more..
[22:43] <abe3k> guys, I had my default window manager set to /usr/bin/fusion-icon, and it worked perfectly
[22:43] <abe3k> but now it isn't
[22:43] <wolter> LinuxUser_, because its simple, and has plugins.
[22:43] <PKodon> Is there a way to "buzz" in pidgin, it isn't obvious, if there is.
[22:43] <rottenkid> PKodon: /buzz
[22:43] <LinuxUser_> wolter:  Well, that was a good reason !
[22:43] <abe3k> it doesn't start fusion-icon anymore
[22:43] <softwarejonas> Jordan_U: so compiz is also the reason why i get flickering from background windows when i watch videos in fullscreen mode?
[22:43] <andy> what are good alternatives to nomachine?
[22:43] <LinuxUser_> wolter:  But if it only should look good and cool .. which one would you so use ?
[22:44] <wolter> LinuxUser_, you can even use adium's message styles =D
[22:44] <erikh> greetings
[22:44] <rottenkid> PKodon: or /nudge on msn
[22:44] <PKodon> LinuxUser_: Ahh, thank you. I've been using Kopete because I couldn't see any way to buzz in YahooIM.
[22:44] <sheli> USB Headset is detected gonna test brb
[22:44] <andy> I mean what are good opensource alternatives to nomachine?
[22:44] <wolter> LinuxUser_, pidgin again.
[22:44] <erikh> does anyone know if perl 5.8.x is supported on the latest ubuntu?
[22:44] <erikh> LTS
[22:44] <wolter> LinuxUser_, because the message styles i told you.
[22:44] <kesi> hi all. I am trying to install wicd to solve some WPA connection issues.  I can't find it via apt-get or the directions here: http://wicd.net/download.php After following these directions I can't find via synaptic search.  What am I doing wrong?
[22:44] <LinuxUser_> wolter:  hehe np hehe :P
[22:44] <nightrid3r> LinuxUser_ if it only has to look cool, use windows live messenger
[22:44] <abe3k> guys, anyone knows how to set fusion-icon as the default window manager ?
[22:44] <LinuxUser_> wolter: ups sorry not to you :)
[22:45] <LinuxUser_> PKodon:  Np hehehe :D
[22:45] <Jordan_U> softwarejonas: Yes, you can actually fix that two different ways. The easy thing to do is not use xv for video output but that reduces performance, the cooler way that only works with a patched mplayer is to use compiz's video output plugin which renders to a 3D texture
[22:45] <LinuxUser_> nightrid3r:  on linux ?
[22:45] <softwarejonas> Jordan_U: okay, thx, i will try that.
[22:45] <LinuxUser_> wolter: but you cant make pidgin look cool :/
[22:45] <nightrid3r> LinuxUser_ it wont work but it looks cool :)
[22:45] <PKodon> LinuxUser_: Sometimes Pidgin, with it's simpler interface, looks better. Kopete's got all these big ugly icons, even on IRC.
[22:46] <LinuxUser_> nightrid3r:  hehe okay :)
[22:46] <guntbert> !ot | LinuxUser_
[22:46] <sebsebseb>  
[22:46] <erikh> anyone? perl 5.8 on latest ubuntu?
[22:46] <LinuxUser_> PKodon:  yes that is right :l
[22:46] <sebsebseb> !perl
[22:46] <erikh> is there a supplementary package I can use?
[22:46] <erikh> I think 5.10 is what they're running now
[22:47] <Massasauga> i was installing codecs in my terminal and it gave me a terms of service. How do i continue? There is a <ok> at the bottom of it.
[22:47] <wolter> LinuxUser_, look this screenshot i'm going to send you.
[22:47] <LinuxUser_> wolter:  okay
[22:47] <abe3k> guys, anyone knows how to set fusion-icon as the default window manager ?
[22:47] <kesi> hi all. I am trying to install wicd to solve some WPA connection issues.  I can't find it via apt-get or the directions here: http://wicd.net/download.php After following these directions I can't find via synaptic search.  What am I doing wrong?
[22:48] <_VIM_> kesi: if you added the repo and the key, you should be able to do sudo apt-get install wicd      in a terminal
[22:48] <Marsol0> What do I do when I get this error when trying to enable my wireless through ifconfig? SIOCSIFFLAGS: Resource temporarily unavailable
[22:49] <wolter> LinuxUser_, http://s3.amazonaws.com/scrnshots.com/screenshots/61998/pidgin-webkit-window_large.png
[22:49] <[t0rc]> I'm having an issue with Ibex. Works fine on my laptop, 64-bit. I do the install on my desktop, but it can't connect to the internet. the ethernet adapters don't even notice when I unplug the LAN cable. When they try to connect, it sits there for a while, tries to connect, and then says it disconnected. ?
[22:49] <Duz> how come my MD5 hashes never match up? I've DL from torrent and from FTP and HTTP... still no dice...
[22:49] <kesi> _VIM_, you seem to be right.. why couldn't I find it in synaptic?
[22:49] <Suikwan1> Can anyone help me setup a DLink DWL-G520 wireless card?
[22:49] <lotfi> dove ce la conversassione in italiano
[22:49] <_VIM_> because terminal > GUI
[22:49] <Pici> !it | lotfi
[22:49] <wolter> LinuxUser_, now, thats another thing: pidgin is cross-platform
[22:49] <wolter> LinuxUser_, linux, windows and now mac.
[22:49] <wolter> adium is going to die i think..
[22:50] <LinuxUser_> wolter:  What do you mean "cross-platform" ?
[22:50] <wolter> LinuxUser_, linux windows and mac.
[22:50] <LinuxUser_> wolter:  Okaay :)
[22:51] <guntbert> Duz: strange, do the file sizes match at least (some clients think they are finished before they are)
[22:51] <Notch[1]> guys please help me, i really need php4
[22:51] <abe3k> guys, anyone knows how to set fusion-icon as the default window manager ?
[22:51] <wolter> LinuxUser_, you can either use the ubuntu version or build from source.
[22:51] <Stathis`> hey all
[22:52] <robf> ok I'm having a strange issue updating and am getting 404 for several ppc pacakges in 8.10
[22:52] <wolter> LinuxUser_, though its more complicated to build from source, I recommend it.
[22:52] <wolter> LinuxUser_, are you an experienced LinuxUser_ ?
[22:52] <guntbert> !ot | wolter
[22:53] <LinuxUser_> wolter:  Me ? no no no .. i only got linux in 3 days :)
[22:53] <PKodon> Okay, since there's no one on #ubuntu-wireless, does anyone here know if there's a program I can use to figgure out how many bits (64/128) the WEP on my wireless router is using?
[22:53] <wolter> sorry guntbert.
[22:53] <guntbert> wolter: np :)
[22:53] <robf> heh...I swear ubuntu is the worst,  you have like 20 people just sweating,  waiting,  trying to be the first to tell someone theyre offtopic... lame guys...
[22:53] <wolter> LinuxUser_, then use the ubuntu version. Preinstalled.
[22:53] <sheli> This stinks the USB headset is detected in the sounds menu but not getting any audio listening to web radio
[22:53] <robf> back to #linux where people arent gay
[22:53] <sheli> And music CDs arent playing
[22:53] <Suikwan1> PKodon, the length of the key will tell you if it is 64 or 128 bit
[22:54] <LinuxUser_> wolter:  By that you mean Pidgin ?
[22:54] <wolter> LinuxUser_, I guess.
[22:54] <wolter> LinuxUser_, anyway, guntbert here limited my pidgin talk, so you probably want to join the #pidgin channel.
[22:54] <LinuxUser_> wolter:  okay .. but please check out my desktop and say what you think about it .. http://www.myupload.dk/showfile/178280a4742.jpg/
[22:54] <PKodon> Suikwan1: Hmm, I was told by someone else that the length of the key wouldn't matter, because it wasn't encrypted yet.
[22:55] <fnordperfect> I have two files im my home directory, ~/.recently-used and ~/.recently-used.xbel. what's the difference, who uses what and why are both needed?
[22:55] <nightrid3r> Notch[1]http://forum.symfony-project.org/index.php/m/16/ <---- be warened that it might break stuff
[22:55] <[t0rc]> I'm having an issue with Ibex. Works fine on my laptop, 64-bit. I do the install on my desktop, but it can't connect to the internet. the ethernet adapters don't even notice when I unplug the LAN cable. When they try to connect, it sits there for a while, tries to connect, and then says it disconnected. ?
[22:55] <sebsebseb> !ethernet
[22:56] <PKodon> Suikwan1: It's got 10 decimal digits, and it's printed on a sticker on the router.
[22:56] <wolter> LinuxUser_, hah, its nice. I like the rambo one
[22:56] <sebsebseb> wolter: it's wolter :d
[22:56] <OzFalcon> Huraa
[22:56] <wolter> sebsebseb, ?
[22:56] <wolter> Yes, its me.
[22:56] <LinuxUser_> wolter:  hehehe me to :D !
[22:56] <panic> who
[22:56] <OzFalcon> I just fixed a wireless problem.
[22:56] <[t0rc]> No thoughts?
[22:56] <Meshezabeel> what is a good app for ripping all the tracks off of a cd?
[22:57] <OzFalcon> Horray for me.
[22:57] <Notch[1]> nighttrain: like what? :D
[22:57] <Suikwan1> I think they were mistaken, a 128-bit WEP key is 13 ascii characters or 26 hex and 64-bit is 5 ascii or 10 hex
[22:57] <SiDi> !ot | LinuxUser_
[22:57] <OzFalcon> Meshezabeel, GRIP
[22:57] <SiDi> !ot | wolter
[22:57] <Meshezabeel> thanks OzFalcon
[22:57] <sebsebseb> OzFalcon: ok which wireless probelm?
[22:57] <LinuxUser_> wolter:  i think SiDi is mad ...
[22:58] <wolter> maybe...
[22:58] <PKodon> Suikwan1: Perhaps it is in hex, but it doesn't use any letters?
[22:58]  * Crow_24 runs for his life..
[22:58] <Meshezabeel> run forest run
[22:58] <OzFalcon> sebsebseb, High speed repeater (Doesn't run in half duplex)
[22:58] <nightrid3r> !who | Notch[1]
[22:59] <Suikwan1> hex includes letters A thru F
[22:59] <guntbert> !attitude | LinuxUser_ , wolter
[22:59] <PKodon> Suikwan1: I know, but a HEX number doesn't have to have those in it to still be a HEX number.
[22:59] <Suikwan1> Can anyone help me setup a DLink DWL-G520 wireless card under ubuntu?
[23:00] <Suikwan1> sure, it can work without letters
[23:00] <sebsebseb> the amount of people that  have wireless issues
[23:00] <sebsebseb> with Ubuntu
[23:00] <OzFalcon> General question.... Do all wifi repeaters run in half duplex mode?
[23:00] <_VIM_> sebsebseb: not just ubuntu
[23:00] <lotfi> ciao ubuntu
[23:00] <sebsebseb> _VIM_: true
[23:00] <sebsebseb> would be good if Ubuntu had a proper site about getting this and that card working with Ubuntu though
[23:00] <marine1> how to set up wireless connection to a second pc???
[23:00] <_VIM_> one cannot blame ubuntu on wifi probs
[23:01] <sebsebseb> _VIM_: I know
[23:01] <Suikwan1> sebsebseb, I dont think its really an ubuntu issue
[23:01] <Dr_willis_AAO> given the wifi problems ive had with windows.....
[23:01] <OzFalcon> sebsebseb, Not just ubuntu. If the net is held together with duct tape. Then Wifi is held together with Bale wire.
[23:01] <PKodon> Suikwan1: All I know is that when asked for the passcode, I type in xxxxxxxxxx numbers on the keypad and it accepts them.
[23:01] <lotfi>  :)
[23:01] <SiDi> sebsebseb, on help.ubuntu.com and on locoteams' docs, you get general tutorials, and also specific tutorials for most of the problematic cards. And the forums are also a good source of info for wireless trouble
[23:01] <_-danes-_> where can I find background images for grub? (splashimage)
[23:01] <Suikwan1> PKodon, how many numbers do you enter?
[23:01] <PKodon> Suikwan1: And when I gave that to Linksys, they couldn't tell me how many bits that was.
[23:01] <tranceparance> hello to all
[23:02] <SiDi> _-danes-_, in gnome-look.org, i believe
[23:02] <wolter> !hi | tranceparance
[23:02] <[HUN]dante> hi
[23:02] <sebsebseb> tranceparance: yes hello to you as well
[23:02] <[t0rc]> No thoughts?
[23:02] <[HUN]dante> can anybody help me?
[23:02] <[t0rc]> I'm having an issue with Ibex. Works fine on my laptop, 64-bit. I do the install on my desktop, but it can't connect to the internet. the ethernet adapters don't even notice when I unplug the LAN cable. When they try to connect, it sits there for a while, tries to connect, and then says it disconnected. ?
[23:02] <sebsebseb> !ask
[23:02] <tranceparance> I am using ubuntu 8.10... went to add / remove applications... nothing shows there anymore.  Any idea as to what is up?
[23:02] <sheli> Still no 64bit adobe flash neither @_@
[23:02] <sebsebseb> sheli: yes there is
[23:02] <nightrid3r> !anyone | [HUN]dante
[23:02] <PKodon> Suikwan1: The code is 9871820211
[23:02] <Nytrix> !hii | ubottu
[23:02] <Nytrix> !hi | ubottu
[23:02] <sebsebseb> sheli: in fact they got a 64bit version that is maybe beta now, that is meant to be better than all other Flash's or at least LInux flashes
[23:03] <SiDi> sheli, actually ubuntu 8.10 has 64bit flash 10 (while windows doesnt)
[23:03] <tranceparance> admin -> synaptico works but not add/remove applications
[23:03] <tranceparance> synaptic rather
[23:03] <sheli> im on 8.10 64bit
[23:03] <tranceparance> how do I get the add/remove applications back?
[23:03] <Suikwan1> PKodon, if you are sure that u are using WEP, then it is a 64-bit key
[23:03] <sheli> Went to adobe site and only i386 is showing up
[23:03] <wolter> tranceparance, what do you mean it doesn't work?
[23:03] <[HUN]dante> can anybody ask me why i cannot get ip4 adress/ip6 address to my netcard? sorry for abd english
[23:03] <OzFalcon> sheli, Any reason you are on 64 bit?
[23:03] <wolter> sheli, get the flash plugin from synaptic
[23:03] <tranceparance> wolter
[23:04] <tranceparance> it is blank
[23:04] <tranceparance> no apps show anymore
[23:04] <sheli> No specific reason yet
[23:04] <SiDi> sheli, activate universe/multiverse repositoriies and then install "flashplugin-nonfree" from synaptics
[23:04] <marine1> can't start auotrun??? what other programs can i chose to d/l programs
[23:04] <wolter> !who | tranceparance
[23:04] <nightrid3r> PKodon wep is to easy to crack, if posible swith to wpa or wpa2
[23:04] <OzFalcon> sheli, Because you have a 64bit cpu is NOT a good reason.
[23:04] <PKodon> Suikwan1: Okay, that helps. Unfortunately, it may not help the problem. It isn't with Ubuntu, so I can't talk further about it here.
[23:04] <wolter> tranceparance, you have no items on the left side to categorize apps?
[23:04] <marine1> can't start auotrun??? what other programs can i chose to d/l programs from a cd/dvd
[23:04] <tranceparance> wolter ... it is blank... nothing shows
[23:04] <[HUN]dante> can anybody ask me why i cannot get ip4 adress/ip6 address to my netcard? sorry for abd english
[23:04] <PKodon> Suikwan1: No, it's definately WEP.
[23:04] <Dr_willis_AAO> marine1,  that question makes no sence.. reprase it.
[23:05] <rconan> anyone know anything about this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba/+bug/117727 ?
[23:05] <Suikwan1> ok, then its definitely 64-bit
[23:05] <tranceparance> wolter I see "All" but nothing shows
[23:05] <rconan> is there a decent workaround?
[23:05] <OzFalcon> sheli, Just use 32 bit version. Make your life easier.
[23:05] <Geek`N`Proud> sheli: are you after a 64bit flash plugin?
[23:05] <PKodon> Suikwan1: We're a small guest house, we have it for the use of our guests and staff.
[23:05] <eseven73> having a issue with freenx's VNC feature on Ubuntu 8.10, when i try to connect it says successful, then shows me the freenx splash screen and instantly exits, with no errors, this does not happen if I choose "Unix" instead of "VNC", when i use x11vnc i have no probs...
[23:05] <Geek`N`Proud> I know a place you can get a .deb for it
[23:05] <marine1> when i insert a cd/dvd it say's can't start autorun program??
[23:05] <tranceparance> wolter I get "There is no matching application available."
[23:05] <nightrid3r> [HUN]dante do you have a router or dhcp server on your network
[23:05] <rconan> at the moment I can't follow any symlinks in shares mounted with cifs...
[23:05] <wolter> tranceparance, thats really weird. Gotta go sorry.
[23:05] <tranceparance> okay
[23:05] <marine1> Dr_willis_AAO,  when i insert a cd/dvd it say's can't start autorun program??
[23:05] <sebsebseb> eseven73: you mean the nomachine.com one?
[23:05] <tranceparance> thanks anyways
[23:05] <tranceparance> yes
[23:05] <tranceparance> very wierd
[23:05] <Dr_willis_AAO> marine1,  whats on a cd that you would want to autorun?
[23:05] <tranceparance> I like the add/remove option
[23:06] <Meshezabeel> if you have more than a few GBs of RAM, 64-bit is highly recommended.
[23:06] <eseven73> sebsebseb: I think so i got the PPA
[23:06] <sheli> yeah geek
[23:06] <PKodon> Suikwan1: And RutilT says it's WEP.
[23:06] <Geek`N`Proud> sheli: 1 sec
[23:06] <[HUN]dante> can anybody ask me why i cannot get ip4 adress/ip6 address to my netcard? sorry for abd english
[23:06] <eseven73> sebsebseb: its on ubunu's ppa site
[23:06] <marine1> Dr_willis_AAO, that is the mesage i get when i insert a disk to d/l drivers for a wireless usb
[23:06] <sebsebseb> tranceparance: add or remove option LOL  that's  for  Ubuntu beginners.   Synaptic Package Manager is a lot better then that, but  then of course commands are much quicker to install and remove software
[23:06] <nightrid3r> [HUN]dante what netcard you have
[23:06] <tranceparance> I know
[23:06] <sebsebseb> eseven73: link?
[23:06] <Nytrix> !ip6
[23:06] <OzFalcon> Meshezabeel, More than 3gb or something
[23:06] <tranceparance> sebsebseb... but its nice to see apps there
[23:07] <eseven73> sebsebseb: ok give me a couple mins
[23:07] <sebsebseb> tranceparance: Jaunty Jackalope Beta soon, and then I probably upgrade early
[23:07] <[HUN]dante> realtek8196
[23:07] <sebsebseb> whoops
[23:07] <tranceparance> sebsebseb ... more than anything the fact that it is not working all of a sudden is what is bothering me
[23:07] <sebsebseb> meant to send that to eseven
[23:07] <marine1> Dr_willis_AAO, trying to cofigure wireless connection for a second pc
[23:07] <Dr_willis_AAO> marine1,  its try int to autorun the windows.exe sounds like with wine.. for some reason.. Just access the disks to copy the stuff over..  where did this disk come from? windows driver disk?
[23:07] <LjL> !ipv6 | Nytrix
[23:07] <Suikwan1> Can anyone help me setup a DLink DWL-G520 wireless card under ubuntu?
[23:07] <Dr_willis_AAO> marine1,  its doubtfull if the disk has ubuntu drivers on it tyat you need.
[23:07] <eseven73> sebsebseb: https://launchpad.net/~freenx-team/+archive/ppa
[23:08] <nightrid3r> [HUN]dante cable is connected ok? do you have router?
[23:08] <sebsebseb> eseven73: well  I am upgrading to the Janty Beta early I expect
[23:08] <[HUN]dante> i havent router,
[23:08] <sebsebseb> eseven73: beta will be soon
[23:08] <[HUN]dante> and its connected(im in windows) :D
[23:08] <eseven73> sebsebseb: what are you saying? You lost me
[23:08] <marine1> Dr_willis_AAO,  no it's a usb card for a wireless connection. i can't find a us card for linux this is for linysis
[23:09] <eseven73> saying to wait for next release of ubuntu for trying freenx?
[23:09] <sebsebseb> eseven73: I am saying PPA's can be useful, but I am going to upgrade to the next Ubuntu early, the beta preview of it
[23:09] <KaRiiM> bonsoir
[23:09] <sebsebseb> eseven73: and that  the beta will be soon
[23:09] <eseven73> sebsebseb: ok but what's that have to do with my question?
[23:09] <sebsebseb> eseven73: yep nothing
[23:09] <guntbert> !fr | KaRiiM
[23:09] <KaRiiM> j'ai besoin d'aide svp
[23:10] <pasteee> Hi, i have some problems with my update. Evolution is messing around. http://pastebin.com/m6f3fad51
[23:10] <marine1> Dr_willis_AAO, yes it's for windows vista/xp but i'm trying to use the usb for linux
[23:10] <nightrid3r> [HUN]dante you need a router or install routing software on your windows pc
[23:10] <sebsebseb> eseven73: anyway nx yeah that can be used, or you can just do VNC on a network without encryption, or   tunnel  VNC over SSH when on the net
[23:10] <[HUN]dante> why i need router?
[23:10] <sebsebseb> [HUN]dante: routers tend to come with a hardware firewall, and whatever OS someone is using, that should beo n
[23:10] <needhelp> Hello, I have MSI motherboard with onboard Realtek® ALC888. But there is no soundoutput. I do find the soundcard with "aplay -l". What is wrong?
[23:10] <eseven73> sebsebseb: well tunneling vnc is slow so thats why i was hoping to get freenx going
[23:10] <Marsol0> For anyone who is using wireless on the Acer Aspire One netbook: if the wireless goes out on you, spend some time trying to figure out if it's the killswitch or not.
[23:11] <sebsebseb> eseven73: I  remote connected people on the net using  VNC tunneled over SSH, and yes it can be slow, but it tends to work quite well
[23:11] <marine1> Dr_willis_AAO, i can't connect to internet in a recently installed linux system in second pc so i purchased a wireles usb card/linksys
[23:11] <sebsebseb> marine1: ok you probbly got to configure that to work with Ubuntu
[23:12] <sebsebseb> !wireless
[23:12] <sheli> Those 64bit plugins work great thanx :D
[23:12] <sheli> Now i just need to get my USB headset working and ill be all set
[23:12] <Legendario> is there anyone experienced with zenity and shell script that can help me on my first script????
[23:13] <eseven73> oh it works, but at a glacial speed, well I guess im sol with trying to get freenx working, thanks anyways sebsebseb :)
[23:13] <marine1> sebastien, how is that done but i can't get any updater since i can't connect at all
[23:13] <Dr_willis_AAO> marine1,  i doubt if tha tcd has anything you really need.. thats not in the repos allready
[23:13] <Dr_willis_AAO> marine1,  i would check the forums fo ryour exact wireless gizmo and how to get it going
[23:14] <marine1> Dr_willis_AAO, which forum
[23:14] <Nytrix> !ot | Legendario
[23:14] <marine1> Dr_willis_AAO, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[23:14] <pasteee> Hi, i have some problems with my update. Evolution is messing around. http://pastebin.com/m6f3fad51
[23:14] <doc_brown> !chkdsk
[23:14] <marine1> Dr_willis_AAO, does this look right
[23:14] <doc_brown> !disk error
[23:15] <doc_brown> !any helpful information for my problem
[23:15] <tranceparance> sebsebseb I fixed it just now with sudo apt-get remove gnome-app-install and then sudo apt-get install gnome-app-install :-)
[23:15] <doc_brown> is there something in ubuntu similar to windows check disk or chkdsk
[23:15] <gwintendoDS> !q
[23:15] <usser> doc_brown, fsck
[23:15] <Geek`N`Proud> doc_brown: fsck
[23:15] <gwintendoDS> mischannel
[23:16] <Geek`N`Proud> (and yes.. that name was made by someone with a sense of humour!)
[23:16] <doc_brown> Geek`N`Proud, the drive cannot be 'mounted' because it's ntfs
[23:16] <doc_brown> Geek`N`Proud, so how do i mount it so that i can fsck
[23:16] <doc_brown> ?
[23:16] <Geek`N`Proud> you fsck before mounting
[23:17] <Geek`N`Proud> sudo apt-get install ntfsprogs ntfs-3g
[23:17] <Nytrix> !fsck
[23:17] <Geek`N`Proud> that should let you fsck it
[23:17] <camel> Hello all
[23:17] <needhelp> Hello, I need help! I have MSI motherboard with onboard Realtek® ALC888. But there is no soundoutput. I do find the soundcard with "aplay -l". What could be wrong?
[23:17] <camel> I need help upgrading my 8.10 ubuntu in 9.04
[23:17] <guntbert> doc_brown: but mostly its a windows issue, not having closed cleanly, check in windows
[23:18] <_VIM_> !jaunty | camel
[23:18] <Nytrix> !sound
[23:18] <Geek`N`Proud> camel: Jaunty is development code
[23:18] <doc_brown> Geek`N`Proud, i have two internal hdd's in my desktop with this laptop hd connected via usb cable.  so i will run fsck ____ what?
[23:18] <Geek`N`Proud> camel: if you don't know how to upgrade then I don't advise you to try it
[23:18] <doc_brown> this laptop got dropped and wont boot
[23:18] <camel> Geek`N`Proud, It's hard, right?
[23:18] <Geek`N`Proud> doc_brown: find out off dmesg what it got assigned
[23:18] <sprinkmeier> doc_brown, "sudo fdisk -l" and look for the NTFS partition
[23:19] <Geek`N`Proud> camel: no it isn't.. but using a development system is
[23:19] <Geek`N`Proud> even at BETA stage it's risky
[23:19] <s3a> if i hear an occasional weird spinning but not exactly a click from my computer, is it most likely to be a hard drive issue or another part?
[23:19] <Geek`N`Proud> (for example.. Hardy got this bad glibc update once... insta-segfault-on-all!)
[23:19] <camel> I really love to have stable editions
[23:20] <Geek`N`Proud> camel: then don't upgrade till 9.04 is released
[23:20] <guntbert> !ot | camel
[23:20] <camel> but today i broke ubuntu while upgrading from 8.04 to 8.10
[23:20] <camel> not in that pc
[23:20] <nightrid3r> camel then go for an lts version
[23:20] <doc_brown> !paste
[23:20] <ajehals> s3a - could be a drive, or any other mechanical component (fan / cdrom etc..)
[23:20] <Nytrix> !ubuntu9.04
[23:20] <Nytrix> !9.04
[23:20] <camel> nightrid3r, lts has broken packages, i have broke acpi for the third time..
[23:20] <LinuxUser_> John
[23:21] <LinuxUser_> John
[23:21] <doc_brown> sprinkmeier, http://paste.ubuntu.com/128001/
[23:21] <s3a> ajehals, so its hd, cd or fan? it shouldnt be my less than 1 year old cpu?
[23:21] <tave>  I have 2 systems 1 low and 1 high.  I also have an additional system as a file server. I want to be able to have both low and high data on the file server but limit data access by level of classification(low or high). Does anyone know of any linux solutions for this?
[23:21] <sprinkmeier> doc_brown, "sudo fsck /dev/sdb1" should do it
[23:21] <mikeshollen> I'm considering setting up a VNC server on my Ubuntu Hardy machine so I can access it from my iPhone.  Could anyone talk to me about the setup, and the dangers with this?  I'd like to do this as safely as possible.
[23:22] <nightrid3r> camel i also had acpi problem but an update solved it
[23:22] <emil> hi
[23:22] <ajehals> s3a - thats the list of culprits I would assume first.  you cpu isn't mechanical, so it really shouldn't make any noises.
[23:22] <guntbert> s3a: how should *we* know? my glass ball is a bit unclear today :-)
[23:22] <doc_brown> i think this hd in question is sdc1-2
[23:22] <emil> Anyone had problems with default ssh port and NX Free?
[23:22] <sprinkmeier> doc_brown, there is no sdc in pastebin.
[23:23] <emil> I mean that NX works only on port 22
[23:23] <emil> :/
[23:23] <doc_brown> !paste
[23:24] <doc_brown> sprinkmeier, sorry
[23:24] <camel> nightrid3r, It's the third time in 8.04 man..
[23:24] <doc_brown> sprinkmeier, http://paste.ubuntu.com/128002/
[23:24] <camel> I hate it now :/
[23:25] <nightrid3r> camel i understand, file a bug report so they can fix it, thats the only option if you want stable system
[23:25] <orudie> hi quesiton. HOw would i competely remove a program ? i did apt-get purge progrname but it didnt uninstlal completely
[23:25] <doc_brown> sprinkmeier, i have a 160 dual booted with xp and ubuntu.  i have a 250 internal ntfs for backup, and i have this 160 laptop drive via usb cable
[23:25] <jrib> orudie: be more specific
[23:25] <sprinkmeier> doc_brown, OK, sdc seems to be a 160G removable device. "sudo fsck /dev/sdc1; sudo fsck /dev/sdc2" should check them
[23:25] <nightrid3r> doc_brown i dont see the 160 removable in the paste
[23:25] <doc_brown> sprinkmeier, all in one command?
[23:25] <orudie> jrib, i want to remove a roundcube
[23:26] <ajehals> orudie - "dpkg --purge application" should do it, although it wont remove config files from ~
[23:26] <doc_brown> nightrid3r,  http://paste.ubuntu.com/128002/
[23:26] <jrib> orudie: continue... What didn't get removed exactly?
[23:26] <sprinkmeier> doc_brown, the internal 160, which you're booting off, note the * in the boot column) is sda.
[23:26] <orudie> ajehals, yes i want to remove config files
[23:26] <abe3k> guys anyone knows how to make fusion-icon my default window manager ?
[23:26] <ajehals> orudie - config files from where?
[23:26] <nightrid3r> doc_brown much better :)
[23:26] <sprinkmeier> doc_brown, yes, the ";" means "run the first command, then run the second one".
[23:26] <doc_brown> sprinkmeier, im not booting off the laptop drive
[23:26] <orudie> ajehals, config files from roundcube's installation
[23:27] <jrib> orudie: where
[23:27] <doc_brown> sorry misundrestood
[23:27] <rww> orudie: configuration files in your home directory aren't removed when you remove a package. you have to delete them manually. configuration files in /etc/ or other system places should have been removed by purge, and if they weren't, that's a bug.
[23:27] <ajehals> orudie dpkg --purge will do that, although it wont remove things from... OK, what rww said.
[23:27] <donavan01> I accidentally removed my network manager applet ... how to I get it back its not showing up in the add applet windows
[23:27] <rottenkid> glymph: still online?
[23:28] <Dante123> Hi
[23:28] <glymph> yeah rottenkid
[23:28] <josc72_> Hello .)
[23:28] <doc_brown> !paste
[23:28] <sprinkmeier> doc_brown, assuming no other botable device is in (USB key, CD, external drive) the * in the boot column in sda1 implies that the PC will boot off sda1 by default. This looks to be a windows partition
[23:28] <tave>  I have 2 systems 1 low and 1 high.  I also have an additional system as a file server. I want to be able to have both low and high data on the file server but limit data access by level of classification(low or high). Does anyone know of any linux solutions for this?
[23:28] <rottenkid> wanna know how the extract solving?
[23:28] <rickard> is there a way I can connect my gnome on ubuntu on another server remotely?
[23:28] <ajehals> tave - an nfs server and file permissions..
[23:28] <attilacyilmazlar> is there a system like raid for ubuntu or we have to setup raid for 2 or 3 disks??
[23:28] <glymph> yeah, go on then rottenkid
[23:29] <rottenkid> can i PM you?
[23:29] <jrib> !vnc | rickard
[23:29] <sprinkmeier> tave, depends on the level of seperation you want. might be as simple as 2 sharepoints "high" and "low"
[23:29] <glymph> sure rottenkid
[23:29] <doc_brown> sprinkmeier, you're right, i was confused.  currently i am booted off the 160 internal that is half xp and half ubuntu
[23:29] <pasteee> Hi, i have some problems with my update. Evolution is messing around. http://pastebin.com/m6f3fad51
[23:29] <doc_brown> sprinkmeier, while working on the 160 laptop drive connected via usb =)
[23:29] <doc_brown> sprinkmeier, http://paste.ubuntu.com/128003/
[23:29] <doc_brown> nightrid3r, http://paste.ubuntu.com/128003/
[23:30] <orudie> i was looking for this
[23:30] <orudie> sudo apt-get remove roundcube --purge && sudo apt-get autoremove
[23:31] <attilacyilmazlar> is there a system like raid for ubuntu or we have to setup classic raid for 2 or 3 disks??
[23:31] <ajehals> pasteee - looks like a problem with the package, try an update and install again, if that doesn't fix it you can either go in and add a new line to the libedataserver1.2-11 files list or report it and  wait for someone to fix it
[23:31] <nightrid3r> attilacyilmazlar software raid
[23:32] <ravalox> Hey, does anyone here have working widescreen in Ubuntu?
[23:32] <nightrid3r> ravalox yup
[23:33] <ravalox> I have a projector that does 720p but I can't seem to trink Ubuntu into going widescreen
[23:33] <nightrid3r> ravalox what chipset
[23:33] <attilacyilmazlar> setting up raid seems too complicated. I read one how to about raid. Is there an easier way???
[23:33] <ravalox> Geforce 8800
[23:33] <sebsebseb> ravalox: sure  my 22inch wide screen works no problem
[23:33] <needhelp> Hello, I need help! I have MSI motherboard with onboard Realtek® ALC888. But there is no soundoutput. I do find the soundcard with "aplay -l". What could be wrong?
[23:33] <doc_brown> sprinkmeier, what's up with that?
[23:33] <Nytrix> !raid
[23:33] <dave__> my syslog is being filled with        "snd-emu10k1: Suspected sound card removal "
[23:34] <dave__> any ideas how to stop that
[23:34] <attilacyilmazlar> thanks Nytrix
[23:34] <nightrid3r> ravalox dunno mucht about nvidia, have an SIS myself, sorry
[23:34] <dave__> pls?
[23:34] <ajehals> ravalox - I have a 3m projector that works niceley at pretty much any resolution my laptop will put out...
[23:34] <Stathis`> hey all
[23:34]  * doc_brown strikes match
[23:34]  * doc_brown lights computer 
[23:34] <sprinkmeier> doc_brown, looks like you're missing the NTFS checker. Personally I'd boot into windows and let windows do the checking (I don't trust linux to write to NTFS)
[23:35] <ravalox> I can't seem to get it to do anything aside for standard 1024
[23:35] <doc_brown> sprinkmeier, i'll use xp and chkdsk
[23:35] <doc_brown> sprinkmeier, thanks
[23:35] <ravalox> Every other device I have does widescreen beautifully except my Ubuntu media center
[23:35] <nightrid3r> ravalox did you install the nvidia drivers
[23:35] <creAtion> Does anyone know who is best to contact about a regional specific repository not being available?
[23:35] <creAtion>  http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com is not available for desktop or server
[23:36] <ravalox> Certtainly
[23:36] <ravalox> I play Quake Wars.  A lot.
[23:36] <ltw> Could anyone let me know if there is a way to convert mac os x dictionary file format to a stardict or gnome-dictionary readable one?
[23:36] <ajehals> ravalox - I'm using kde, krandtray happily ajusts the resolution as required, I'm not sure what the gnome equivalent is, although you could issue commands to xrandr directly... some info here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=652745
[23:37] <Java_Head> ravalox - could you post your graphics card and monitor type? i'll see if i can help...
[23:37] <NemesisD> anyone happen to know of any open source IT automation tools that one could use to monitor the status of many computers on the network, remote-control both windows and *nix machines, push out updates/patches to many machines at once, stuff like that?
[23:38] <Nytrix> !paste
[23:38] <ravalox> It;s a geforce 8800
[23:38] <sprinkmeier> NemesisD, puppet?
[23:38] <ajehals> NemesisD - don't want much do you... :)
[23:38] <ravalox> and a Mitsubishi HC 1600 projector
[23:38] <tave> sprinkmeier - I would also like to pass data from low to high and restrict low from seeing high data
[23:38] <juanito_> when i try to run Xchat from terminal i get this error. XChat CRITICAL *** default event text failed to build! Canceled.
[23:38] <sprinkmeier> ajehals, he could have asked that it make coffee too...
[23:39] <NemesisD> ajehals: boss wants to avoid paying 3k+ for closed source software that does this
[23:39] <idkdell> Hello, can someone tell me if i can sell the ubuntu disks i have on ebay?
[23:39] <needhelp> Can anyone please help me getting sound to work? I have onboard ALC888 sounddevice
[23:39] <NemesisD> sprinkmeier: never heard of puppet, looking into it now
[23:40] <Nytrix> juanito_, join #xchat
[23:40] <xnevermore> hey guys. I want to route espeak's (text-to-speech program) output to ekiga's input (or the main microphone input). How do I do this?
[23:40] <Nytrix> !sound | needhelp
[23:40] <sprinkmeier> OK.... LOW computers mount the LOW sharepoint R/W. HIGH computers mount the HIGH sharepoint R/W and the LOW sharepoint R/O. Enforce RO/RW at the shareopint level. Now HIGH computers can import from LOW, but nothing can leak (assuming everything works as advertsed :-)
[23:40] <nightrid3r> idkdell yes you can (its called delivery charges) but who will want to buy them if they can have them for free
[23:40] <jscinoz_> Hmm
[23:40] <jscinoz> I have a question regarding ad-hoc networking via the use of the command line tools (not networkmanager)
[23:40] <rww> !support > n2diy
[23:40] <sprinkmeier> NemesisD, google for the recent LCA, lots of puppet talks. I think it's very Linux flavoured, your windows boxes might be SOL.
[23:40] <pasteee> Hi, i have some problems with my update. Evolution is messing around. http://pastebin.com/m6f3fad51
[23:41] <sebsebseb> pasteee: Evoloution is ok, but I  recommend Mozilla Thunderbird :)
[23:41] <NemesisD> sprinkmeier: ah bummer. we realistically only have 1 or 2 linux machines, i think he was hoping for something mostly for windows boxes
[23:41] <ajehals> NemesisD - you can probably do all of it using OSS and some scripting for the automation, but it's been a while since I have had to look at the windows side of it...  if you were in the UK, I'd give you my office number, that is the kind of thing we could sort out for you for a lot less than 3k...
[23:41] <starfruit> anyone installed ubuntu on external device? running it via usb 2.0 diskk?
[23:41] <SPF> NemesisD: Nagios
[23:41] <jscinoz> How can you use WPA encryption with an ad-hoc wireless network, wpa_supplicant only seems to work as a client, and hostapd only works with Master mode not ad-hoc
[23:41] <pasteee> sebsebseb : Please check my post. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6856670#post6856670
[23:41] <John_> Hi, i have a install_flash_player_10_linux.tar.gz on my desktop, how do i install such a file ?
[23:42] <attilacyilmazlar> !raid
[23:42] <sebsebseb> pasteee: I haven't  used Evoloution  properly myself,  altough I  think I saw it set up once on someone elses computer
[23:42] <idkdell> move it to your /tmp dir and then type the command into terminal that the people give you?
[23:42] <Nytrix> !flash | John_
[23:42] <sebsebseb> pasteee: ,but Thunderbird since good add ons and that :)
[23:42] <tesseracter> #linux
[23:42] <pasteee> Thats not my problem really :D
[23:42] <John_> Nytrix:  thanks
[23:43] <jscinoz> John_, Basically, you extract it and run the script in it, or you can manually copy the libflashplayer.so to ~/.mozilla/plugins/
[23:43] <NemesisD> SPF: that looks pretty good for solving part of the problem, minus the remote desktop control and updates/software installs on the windoze machines
[23:43] <Java_Head> starfruit - i assume you don't mean "live booting" i boot off a 1gig sd card myself
[23:43] <tave> sprinkmeier - thx, for the help, will try to apply it to my setup
[23:44] <starfruit> Java_Head, i want to buy netbook, which comes with 8 gb solid state.  so want to run ubuntu on 2.0 external drive (USB).
[23:44] <tesseracter> hi. i want to send one sound stream to the front speakers, and another different stream to the rear speakers. possible?
[23:44] <starfruit> Java_Head, can't fit crap on the 8 gb solid state
[23:44] <John_> jscinoz:  i have extracted it on my desktop now, but how do i run the script in it ?
[23:44] <tesseracter> starfruit, 8gb is enough to run ubuntu...
[23:44] <sebsebseb> jscinoz: hey man, long time no see
[23:44] <NemesisD> opsi sounds like it might be pretty awesome
[23:44] <jscinoz> John_, you need to make it executable, like this: chmod a+x install_flash_player.sh
[23:44] <jscinoz> hey sebastien
[23:44] <xnevermore> Nytrix: while that's all helpful sound information, it doesn't answer my specific question concerning routing the sound output of a program to the main mic input
[23:45] <jscinoz> gah damn tab complete, i meant sebsebseb
[23:45] <rapt0rjezuz> how do i use a proxy on xchat-gnome
[23:45] <sebsebseb> pasteee: ok your trying to install it
[23:45] <starfruit> tesseracter, i don't want to wipe the solid state, want 2 OSes
[23:45] <sebsebseb> pasteee: evoloution comes as part of ubuntu-desktop  so  what was wrong with the default install of it?
[23:45] <tesseracter> starfruit, then softlink your large non-necessary stuff to the external drive
[23:45] <John_> jscinoz:  Hmm .. so ill paste that in terminal, and then its ececutable ?
[23:45] <Nytrix> !patience
[23:46] <sebsebseb> jscinoz: why not on an IM?
[23:46] <starfruit> tesseracter, ? softlink?
[23:46] <jscinoz> John_, not that exactly, the name of the script may be different, basically its chmod a+x nameofscripthere
[23:46] <tesseracter> starfruit, google for usb bootable OS
[23:46] <Nytrix> rapt, join #xchat
[23:46] <jscinoz> sebsebseb, going on now, been extremely busy the last week, not getting home until midnight every night
[23:46] <John_> jscinoz: Hmm okay .. so ill try to write this in terminal chmod a+x nameofscripthere
[23:46] <sebsebseb> jscinoz: oh how come?]
[23:47] <jscinoz> John_, yeah but change nameofscript here to the name of the .sh file that you extracted
[23:47] <tom__> hi i just trying removing pulse audio and lost sound output with alsa, but i reinstalled it ant it isn't working now, it says Mar  7 00:01:23 nightrider pulseaudio[5690]: module-alsa-sink.c: Error opening PCM device front:0: Device or resource busy
[23:47] <tesseracter> starfruit, ln. linux makes it possible to have any part of the filesystem on any partition you please.
[23:47] <jscinoz> sebsebseb, school musical, doesnt end until 11 each night and i dont get home until around 0030
[23:47] <sebsebseb> jscinoz: oh  long way  from school and your house?
[23:48] <_VIM_> !ot
[23:48] <jscinoz> sebsebseb, yeah, anyways we can continue this on XMPP, here isnt the best place :P
[23:48] <sebsebseb> _VIM_: indeed that's why I told him to go on IM :)
[23:48] <sebsebseb> jscinoz: indeed
[23:48] <starfruit> tesseracter, i want to run two OSes. probably linux on 8gb solid state, and windows on usb 2.0 with 120 GB
[23:48] <John_> jscinoz: There are no sh file . there are only two files, and that is flashplayer-installer and libflashplayer.so
[23:48] <jscinoz> John_, the first one
[23:48] <tesseracter> starfruit, so i have my /home/tesseracter/ directory on a 16gb USB drive, and i take it with me :-)
[23:49] <rww> John_: run flashplayer-installer, or copy libflashplayer.so to ~/.mozilla/plugins/ (make that directory if it doesn't exist already)
[23:49] <John_> jscinoz: hm okay , ill try
[23:49] <tesseracter> starfruit, i've never seen someone run windows off a USB drive, not saying it is impossible.
[23:49] <jscinoz> How can you use WPA encryption with an ad-hoc wireless network, wpa_supplicant only seems to work as a client, and hostapd only works with Master mode not ad-hoc, any ideas how i can use WPA with an ad-hoc wireless network?
[23:49] <oneeyedelf1> tesseracter: the windows installer will not install to a usb drive
[23:50] <needhelp> Soundproblem solved. A question, which output connection should I connect to the amplifier? Line-out, RS-out, CS-out or SS-out? All seems to work
[23:50] <starfruit> tesseracter, my concern is the 2.0 usb bus will not hand the OS well.
[23:50] <xnevermore> I'm trying to route the output of espeak (a text-to-speech program) to the main mic input. Does anyone know how i can do this? espeak can direct the sound output to stdout. Can I pipe this to the mic input somehow, rather than /dev/dsp?
[23:50] <mikeshollen> Is anyone here good with networking?  I am trying to connect via VNC to my computer outside of my network and I need help with the address
[23:50] <loabivaa> how to I install a .bin file?
[23:50] <david_> hello
[23:50] <sebsebseb> mikeshollen: ok yeah  tunneld VNC over SSH,  or it's insecure when your using the net
[23:51] <sebsebseb> david_: hi
[23:51] <mikeshollen> sebsebseb: Would you go into further detail?
[23:51] <sebsebseb> mikeshollen: you need commands and a SSH account
[23:51] <mezquitale> anyone here has managed to sync a windows media 5 device with ANY client in ubuntu???  I have a PPC 6700 that I want to sync using ubuntu
[23:52] <david_> is it possible to make it so that i cant turnoff/restart the pc from the login screen,but i am able to do so once i login? right now i managed to remove it from the login window, but it removed it also from the quit menu
[23:52] <sebsebseb> mikeshollen: as well as x11vnc and openssh-server installed
[23:52] <dajxd> This is probably a ridiculous question and I apologize, but are there any known issues that would cause a fresh install of ubuntu on a macbook to freezes every half an hour or so?
[23:52] <mikeshollen> sebsebseb: so in order to use VNC outside of my local network, I need SSH?
[23:52] <tesseracter> starfruit, only experience i have with USB 2.0 OS is puppy, which loads completely into RAM. it will probably be sluggish, and you'll want to turn off log writing to that drive.
[23:52] <sebsebseb> mikeshollen: to make it secure,  you need to tunnel it over SSH
[23:52] <loabivaa> hello.. how to I install a .bin file?
[23:52] <sebsebseb> mikeshollen: the Internet is not secure
[23:52] <tesseracter> starfruit, any REAL reason you need windows on a netbook?
[23:53] <mikeshollen> sebsebseb: how does SSH secure it?
[23:53] <sebsebseb> mikeshollen: makes it encrypted
[23:53] <mezquitale> dajxd, sounds like your hadware is making ubuntu crash, it could be your motherboard
[23:53] <tc111> anyone know of a closer repo mirror for lpia than ubuntu-ports?
[23:53] <sebsebseb> mikeshollen: I guess not
[23:53] <starfruit> tesseracter, i plan to get netbook (one comes with linux) on 8 gb solid state. there for i need a 2nd os, so i must chain it to USB2.0, and for that matter, i want to put w2k8 server on usb
[23:53] <dajxd> mezquitale: even when it doesn't effect any other OSes?
[23:53] <Free0ne> How come when I run a command with sudo or one that requires root password and then like 3 minutes later if I do another action in root it DOESN'T require the root password. Is this unsafe?
[23:54] <tesseracter> starfruit, on my eeepc, wine runs anything windows related(or use virtualbox)
[23:54] <divXjunk> hey ppl
[23:54] <sebsebseb> mikeshollen: the I guess not was to the netbook guy
[23:54] <dajxd> loabivaa: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/linux-newbie/7296-i-need-help-installing-bin-files.html#post41516
[23:54] <divXjunk> i can't seem to get a irc server added in xchat
[23:54] <sebsebseb> Windows is not needed on a netbook
[23:54] <tesseracter> starfruit, you havent explained the need for dual boot...
[23:54] <pl> hello
[23:54] <starfruit> tesseracter, dude, i want to run ms_dhcp, domain, etc..... i know ubuntu get all those, but i want to use ms ones; practice for certifications
[23:54] <mezquitale> dajxd, it could be a certain hardware is making linux cry, my wireless card was making my laptop take long to boot up so yes, it could be some hard ware that is not playing nice with ubuntu
[23:55] <tesseracter> Free0ne, you can change the sudo timeout if you think it is unsafe
[23:55] <pl> i just noticed that my system is using Swap space when plenty of ram is still free.. any ideas why?
[23:55] <dajxd> mezquitale: I'll try doing some diagnostic stuff, thank you.
[23:55] <sebsebseb> tesseracter: Windows is not needed on a netbook
[23:55] <stefg> Free0ne: It's intended behaviour that your sudo password is cached for some time so you dont need to put it in every 30 seconds
[23:56] <sebsebseb> mikeshollen: PM me and I can tell you things about VNC over SSH a lot of stuff to tell you
[23:56] <tesseracter> starfruit, i won't stop you, but i advise virtualBox if you need a true windows environment on a netbook
[23:56] <mezquitale> dajxd, look at the logs, youll probably find somethere theree
[23:56] <sebsebseb> mikeshollen: so don't want to like take over the channel with it
[23:56] <dajxd> mezquitale: where do I find those?
[23:56] <Free0ne> tesseracter, could you tell me how to do that please? Technically if I ran sudo to intsall a program then started browsing the internet and lucky me got hacked because of a 0-day?
[23:56] <armence> So, question for all of you... I wanted to know if there already are C++ and Java, editors, compilers and linkers in ubuntu
[23:56] <starfruit> tesseracter, that will even; be worst. netbook comes with max 2gb
[23:56] <starfruit> ram
[23:56] <mezquitale> that is another question that hopefully someone else may be able to help you with, all i know is dmesg
[23:56] <sebsebseb> armence: yeah devc++ and what not
[23:56] <Free0ne> stefg, If I know I'm going to have to be using root for a while I'd prefer to use sudo su personally, just in case
[23:57] <dajxd> mezquitale: I'll do some lookin' myself.  Thanks again.
[23:57] <tesseracter> starfruit, store the virtualbox partition on the external drive.
[23:57] <storbeck> Free0ne: If you're so concerned about it, write your own OS.
[23:57] <_VIM_> ouch
[23:57] <tesseracter> starfruit, is this gunna be your only pc? thats not too smart...
[23:57] <starfruit> tesseracter, but dual boot makes it faster
[23:58] <starfruit> tesseracter, no, i have other pcs.
[23:58] <david_> is there anyone taht can help set up my ubuntu so that the pc can be turned off only when im logged in?
[23:58] <tesseracter> storbeck, thats silly! he can just change the sudo timeout period. Free0ne, google "sudo timeout"
[23:58] <sebsebseb> david_: you mean you want it to be able to autu shut down?
[23:58] <tesseracter> starfruit, heh, dualboot is faster? what universe are you in?
[23:58] <sebsebseb> david_: auto shut down
[23:58] <needhelp> Soundproblem solved. A question, which output connection should I connect to the amplifier? Line-out, RS-out, CS-out or SS-out? All seems to work
[23:59] <david_> sebsebseb, no, i mean that there is no power off in the login window
[23:59] <nightrid3r> needhelp line-out
[23:59] <david_> sebsebseb, but if i login into my account i can poweroff
[23:59] <stefg> Free0ne: If you know what you're doing that's perfectly fine :-) (i prefer sudo -s though for a root shell)
[23:59] <Nytrix> !sudo
[23:59] <Free0ne> storbeck: I've come to the conclusion that you are a troll... I was only asking if it was possible to get hacked by running sudo in another application and the timeout allowing a usermode program to get root priviledges
[23:59] <needhelp> nightrid3r, thanks
[23:59] <sebsebseb> david_: I think there is if you go to options
[23:59] <starfruit> tesseracter, the universe in which dual boot is faster
[23:59] <ajehals> starfruit - tesseracter - partition the machine, install as if you want to dual boot and then either dual boot or launch the OS from the other physical partition in a VM (like qemu)...
[23:59] <needhelp> Is there no GUI for xmms2 ?
[23:59] <Free0ne> stefg and ubottu: thanks
[23:59] <LifeIsPain> I just came in here to stab whoever sent someone to #xchat for an issue that was happening with xchat-gnome, and then to stab again for the name of xchat-gnome which is confusing to users
[23:59] <mezquitale> anyone here ever synced windows media 5 device with a client in ubuntu???