[00:08] charlie-tca is our superboy [00:10] no, that should be cody-somerville [00:10] * charlie-tca thinks highly of cody-somerville [00:11] lol [00:12] thank you charlie-tca. I appreciate that. However, Xubuntu wouldn't be the same without *you*. [00:12] Might be stronger, though [00:12] it would be different without both of you. [00:13] I can agree with that [00:17] when you chown something, and it says 'read only filesystem', even with sudo, how do you fix write protection? [00:18] keres: as in, you want to write to it? [00:18] read only means it is write protected [00:18] hello! can i skin the taskbar in xubuntu? [00:19] yes [00:19] how O= [00:20] ? [00:22] !panel [00:22] Did you panels disappear? Press alt+f2 and run: xfce4-panel | See also: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XubuntuPanels | Want to theme your panels? See http://xubuntu.wordpress.com/2007/10/12/howto-set-a-background-image-for-your-panel/ [00:22] thanks :D [00:23] btw, dont try transparent png, it may hurt your eyes =) [00:24] ok.. does anyone know how to set off the compiz taskbarr opacity? [00:25] hm, in the opacity menu of compizconfig-settings-manager [00:26] thx, i'm very tired ;D [00:31] xubuntu just installed on a very old ThinkPad 600E [00:32] very impressive, it got the two pccards for wired and wireless working! [00:32] :-) [00:32] all automatic [00:32] which version? [00:32] during the install it was talking to the mirrors and downloading packages [00:33] 8.10 [00:33] See you tomorrow people [00:33] I'm impressed if you wired and wireless working [00:33] later, SiDi [00:33] o/ [00:33] time for me to make sweet dreams about SIGSEGV and gcc errors :) [00:34] * charlie-tca very glad to hear from davygrvy_ [00:34] I tried on an even older Thinkpad 760EL, but no joy there [00:35] hardware detection problems with the cd-rom [00:35] That could make it difficult [00:35] just tooooo old [00:36] I thought that was the case with an old desktop machine, but it was a bad motherboard, instead of age [00:36] the 600E is updating pachages right now for it's first boot, could parobably be another 30 minutes [00:37] yeah, could be [00:39] smart boot manager got the installer kernel to load from it, yet the installer failed @ step #3 "detecting and mounting cd-rom". The cd-rom the installer just loaded from ;) [00:40] how good is dosbox at allowing dos apps to run in realmode? [00:40] Did you run the cd integrity check to make sure it wasn't the cd? [00:40] never used dosbox [00:40] couldn't, it couldn't mount it [00:40] ;) [00:40] davygrvy_, any specific app/game in mind? [00:41] not a game... a mission critical data acquision system [00:41] runs with a full length (13") ISA card in the docking station [00:42] it's 13 years old, but there is nothing better made these days [00:42] isn't that weird? [00:43] I'm putting on xubuntu to see if I can run that dos app [00:44] win95 bothers me alot [00:47] I'm really starting to get my linux "fu" lately. I feel empowered [00:52] Hmmm, How do I get a USB mic to Work in Xubuntu >.>? [00:54] FaMott, does the manufacturer provide a driver for it? [00:55] It's just a regular USB Microphone... hell, It's the Rock Band Mic I'm using because I'm a cheap bugger :P [00:55] serial ports and disc like stick memory are builtin and automatic [00:55] you need a driver [00:56] Hmmm. [00:56] Where can I get the driver? [00:56] this is the problem with USB devices in general [00:56] who made it? [00:56] It (if I can remember correctly) is Identified as a Logitech Mic. [00:56] Yep, Logitech USB Microphone [00:57] FaMott, try to set your mic/record device volume louder in 'aumix' [00:57] hit http://www.logitech.com or google for "logitech usb microphone linux driver" [00:58] does linux recognize it at all? [00:58] Yes it does, as mic,0 [00:58] ahh [00:58] you're there [00:59] is the device listed in the mixer? [00:59] Yeah [01:01] enabled? input level up? [01:02] Mic level is as high as it can get. [01:03] and mic select is Mic1 [01:03] FaMott, try to set your mic/record device volume louder in 'aumix' [01:03] Ohjeez, I don't even HAVE aumix. [01:04] FaMott, 'sudo apt-get install aumix' [01:04] Doing that now [01:05] All the way up, installed, too. [01:06] Nothing but Fuzz. [01:06] FaMott, maybe you need to unmute it [01:06] http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/vectorlinux-36/how-do-you-assign-my-usb-micak5370-as-the-capture-device-433604/ [01:07] THERE WE Go... [01:07] FaMott, what was the solution? [01:07] Well, A combination of setting it up on aumix and setting it as my audio device for skype [01:08] :) [01:08] good to know. [01:09] yup [01:09] davygrvy_, the solution is many times more simple than you'd think. [01:13] just top level software, hardware works fine, yes? [01:13] usb microphones are quite simple hardware [01:13] and there is actually no reason why they would not work [01:14] you don't need specific drivers because they only input sound. [01:14] when I saw FaMott said linux recognized, your basically done [01:14] unlike this USB osciliscope I have will only work on windows due to it's complexity [01:15] and there's no host software for it on linux anyways [01:15] true. but it's really hard for a beginner, for example, to know he needs to install aumix and tweak that one knob. EVEN if it's so easy that even our grandmas could do it. [01:15] well, i'm not at all disagreeing and you seem to be putting me in an odd position [01:16] no, not at all :) [01:16] i've set up a usb microphone once myself [01:16] Well, Yeah, I tried Fedora for a month, got mad at its near non-existent software list (yeee, No 3rd party apps :D) Went to Ubuntu, and in either install, I just simply didn't do what wouldn't work, because I didn't want to really break anything [01:17] and it took my ages longer even if i knew the device was recognised from the start. just couldn't get any sound. [01:17] I know how to do some more stuff. [01:18] I tried Arch on a VM at one point... Yeesh, that was hard. [01:18] and I eventually want to be able to use Gentoo, preferably on my next laptop [01:18] FaMott, i recommend just taking it nice and easy :) [01:19] i'm having a blast with mount and dd lately and XP in VirtualBox backing up other WinXX desktop harddrives [01:19] :P Yesh because well, Compiling a Kernel is ... yeah. [01:19] i would never compile a kernel. [01:19] well now as i say so, i probably will do it. [01:19] XD [01:19] but anyway, it's nothing i *want* to do. [01:20] Well , here's the thing I want to be able to tweak my computer more and more to my liking, yeah. [01:20] but even now I'm sorta just starting to learn [01:23] FaMott, linux is learning every day. [01:23] *nods* It is. [01:24] and not to be too zealotish, but M$ EULA's are just plain... retarded >.> [01:26] FaMott: Amen. [01:27] PKodon: After you mentioned to me the whole Privacy Breaching a while back, I looked at XBL's EULA for the service, and anything... ANYTHING, voice convos, even, can be recorded and distributed at their will. o.O [01:28] And they gather info about you for using the service, etc. [01:28] FaMott: I'm so sick of most EULAs today, regardless of where they come from. But, you have to SAY you agree to them, if you want to use the junk. [01:29] I know, but it usually says "You HAVE to agree or else we terminate the service" [01:29] and they plaster it EVERYWHERE. [01:29] FaMott: And the thing is, they advertise all the stuff you can do, then turn around and tell you you have to agree with their EULA, but they don't warrant that the stuff is good for anything. [01:30] *nods* I find it funnily contradictory because well. [01:30] Because at one point it says "Oh , we can take all your stuff and it's ours!" [01:30] Well, all content on anything accessing the service [01:31] then it says somewhere in the code of conduct "Respect Copyright!" [01:31] #xubuntu-offtopic [01:31] or bug #1 in launchpad [01:32] Heh, thanks for the reminder, knome. [01:32] hi there [01:33] I have a problem... I`ve lost my panels [01:34] Go|2T, alt+f2 > xfce4-panel [01:35] thank you.. will it stay there now [01:37] Go|2T, should. [01:38] Go|2T, if it doesn't, come back :) [01:38] !panels [01:38] Did you panels disappear? Press alt+f2 and run: xfce4-panel | See also: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XubuntuPanels | Want to theme your panels? See http://xubuntu.wordpress.com/2007/10/12/howto-set-a-background-image-for-your-panel/ [01:38] ok, I`ll go reboot and see what happpens [01:38] you don't need reboot [01:38] just log out/in [01:39] ok, I`ll try that === Darth_Tux is now known as chuck_b === chuck_b is now known as ragamufin [02:05] <[Acheron]> Hey People, I'm A Newbie To xubuntu, I Used Ubuntu And Used Themes On It Normally, But Since The gui Here Is xfce I Need A Little Help On Installing Themes [02:06] [Acheron], what's the problem? [02:06] <[Acheron]> I Downloaded The Themes From xfce-look.org But Have No Theme Manager [02:08] [Acheron], the preferred place to put themes is ~/.themes where ~ is /home/yourusername [02:08] [Acheron], if that directory does not exist, create it. [02:08] [Acheron], after that see settings -> settings manager -> appearance/window manager [02:09] [Acheron], your themes in ~/.themes should appear there [02:09] <[Acheron]> I Shall Try That In A Sec, Thanks knome [02:15] <[Acheron]> That Problem Is Solved, Thanks [02:15] np. [02:39] Hey, I just installed and set up compiz, and suddenly all my borders diassapeared. Can anyone help please? [02:46] wireless issue: my computer stopped finding any wireless networks - driver seems to be configured but iwlist wlan0 scan doesn't find any [02:49] Hey, I just installed and set up compiz, and suddenly all my borders diassapeared. Can anyone help please? [02:55] I'm Using Xubuntu 8.1 btw [02:55] 8.10 [02:56] Yes [02:56] And After I Set Up Compiz My Borders Dissapeared [02:57] No X At The Top Right Of The Screen Or Anything [03:04] wutz compiz? [03:04] Compiz Fusion [03:04] ? [03:05] it's a desktop animation package [03:05] I don't have it installed, though [03:05] adds 3d effects to the desktop [03:07] MacAnthony: So You Have No Idea How Can I Fix This? [03:08] Acheron: sorry, I don't really - I don't have compiz installed and am relatively new to xfce too [03:08] MacAnthony: Thanks Anyways [03:11] good luck with that [03:13] they have a wiki and forums, you should ask on their forum, i assume they would know more about their own software [03:13] Ishmael: True Enough [03:15] if it gives you that cube effect, then that's neat [03:15] kind of like that linux vs. windows video that's been out. that guy also had a fishtank inside the cube [03:16] i'm running xubuntu on a server though, so i have no need for this really... [03:19] http://wiki.compiz-fusion.org/Plugins/Cube#Atlantis [03:19] i came [03:22] if I wasn't trying to fix my computer ATM, I would install it to test it out [03:23] Acheron, #compiz-fusion they have their own room even, figured they had to, even though it's not too advertised on the webpage [03:25] Ishmael: I Just Checked It Out, Problem Fixed [03:25] nice [03:25] are you staring at cubes and fish right now? [03:25] lol I Use A Cylinder Instead [03:25] Smoother [03:26] max out your effects, get a mac fanboy and brag [03:27] then start a fight after calling the cops saying that the mac guy is trying to attack you [03:27] press charges [03:33] damn, now i'm probably going to install it [03:33] i wonder if it shows up through vnc [03:42] i'm starting to hate synaptic, apt-get is much cleaner :( [03:42] indeed [03:42] I liked adept with kde3.5, but don't care for the kde4 version [03:47] i keep fooling myself into using it :D [03:50] "oh, this is something small, i'll just go ahead and...oh f---" [03:50] :) [05:43] TEST YOUR ISP https://www.eff.org/testyourisp === FaMott is now known as FaMott|sleeps === MacAnthony is now known as Guest26378 === anthony_ is now known as MacAnthony [07:50] i'm still not sure the differences between apt-get vs aptitude [07:52] command line vs ncurses interface? [07:54] i read somewhere that aptitude keeps track of all dependencies and during uninstall deletes everything, whereas apt-get leaves some artifacts lying around... i haven't confirmed this myself though [07:57] hello, the XFCE panels cover Warcraft 3 over Wine, is there a way to fix this? [08:00] djdarkman: hide panels? [08:01] that's not a very feasible solution, to hide the panels every time I play, I found a better solution pressing ALT+F11 but thanks anyway [08:27] any good C++ coders out there [08:33] there are many [08:33] some of the best c++ coders are out there [08:35] <_Pete_> Brad450: will Java one do? [08:35] i could code my way out of a paper bag [08:36] * Ishmael is often trapped inside paper bags [08:50] My laptop is not showing the top taskbar, even when I move the mouse to the top of my screen it's not working. can i have some help? [08:59] did you delet the panel by any chance?? [09:10] what aload of help this is [09:10] anyway i've found away around the problem [09:17] ok, seriously, why is my mouse always disappearing every time i log out after upgrading from 8.04 to 8.10 === wormsxulla_ is now known as wormsxulla [12:30] hello! how can i mount a fat32 partition? [12:54] hi [13:52] im looking for a mac-look-a-like dock for my xubuntu notebook any sugestions? i found gnome-dock but i think its to big. [14:32] raid0 mounting issue, help needed!!! [14:34] raid0 mounting issue, help needed!!!:'( [14:34] If you help in a hurry, you should try #ubuntu [14:34] i am [14:34] ;-( [14:34] !patience [14:34] The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines [14:34] 10-4 [14:34] copy that [14:34] ok [14:35] What about #ubuntu-server for raid? [14:35] i`ll try [14:35] didnt mean to offend any1 im just a newbie [14:35] ;-) [14:35] no problem. [14:36] thx [14:36] Normally, ask the question you need to, and if anyone can answer, they will. Need help doesn't tell what your issue is. [14:36] got it [14:43] hi people [14:43] Hey juanito :) [14:44] nice to see you again [14:44] ready for a new session of questions? [14:44] jaja [14:46] Sure ;-) [14:47] ok then [14:48] if i were to use ubuntu and xubuntu....... [14:48] would i have to download the desktop [14:49] or install xubuntu in another partition [14:49] ? [14:49] You can install Ubuntu "on top" of Xubuntu [14:49] Basically, the difference is the package selection [14:49] i'm now in xubuntu [14:49] When you've got either installed, you can install xubuntu-desktop or ubuntu-desktop (depending on which is installed) to pull in all the packages for the other [14:50] i've got a partition with ubuntu [14:50] So you'd have to install ubuntu-desktop to get Ubuntu [14:50] Oh [14:50] Ehm... So what is it exactly you want? :P [14:50] jaja [14:50] juanito, you can just "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" and then at login, click on Options -> Session to change your session [14:50] i just wanted to know if downloading the desktop would be a right choice [14:51] You mean the -desktop package or the desktop CD? [14:51] SiDi thanks [14:51] but i mean [14:51] if the programs that run for example [14:51] in ubuntu are the same.... [14:52] i will give yo an example [14:52] some are the same, some are'nt [14:52] and please forgive my stupid questions [14:52] but i want to get this clear [14:52] remember i'm a beginner [14:52] ;( [14:52] It doesn't matter if you install, say, Abiword, in Ubuntu or Xubuntu - they are the same [14:53] i want to install a gui for ufw for example [14:53] gufw [14:53] will this work in xubuntu [14:53] if i have the two desktops? [14:53] juanito, how have you installed them? [14:54] right now i have them in different partitions [14:54] i was just looking for my distro [14:54] remember? [14:54] Ah [14:54] Wondering if there is a way to tell firefox to stop asking me to install flash... [14:54] jaja [14:54] Well, if you install gufw in Ubuntu then it won't be installed in Xubuntu as well, but you can install them in both if you want to [14:55] SiDi, you can install FlashBlock, I suppose [14:55] you know [14:55] (A Firefox extension) [14:55] vinnl, yeh that could be a good solution [14:55] i thought there were different packages for each desktop [14:55] SiDi: install it? even if you tell firefox not to use it, it will still keep telling you to install it, whether you have or not [14:55] i mean a xufw [14:55] juanito, you shouldnt have installed ubuntu AND xubuntu. its the same distro, except that ubuntu comes with gnome (and ubuntu-artwork) and xubuntu with xfce and xubuntu-artwork [14:55] Nope, the packages are the same [14:56] And xubuntu-default-settings and a different package selection and whatnot... The core is the same [14:56] charlie-tca, i don't want to install flash :p [14:56] SiDi thanks [14:56] i did install them botho to try them [14:56] SiDi: I haven't found any way to turn it off, without flash installed and turned on [14:57] now i'm trying to understand them [14:57] step by step [14:57] SiDi: Even installed, if you turn it off in options, it still gives you that thing [14:57] thanks god i found people like yo [14:57] jaja [14:57] you* [14:57] juanito, what SiDi means is that you could first have installed Xubuntu, and then from within Xubuntu, install Ubuntu like you would install other applications [14:57] i found it charlie-tca [14:57] The option? [14:58] i did that with kubuntu and ubuntu [14:58] ,P [14:58] in about:config, plugins.hide_infobar_for_missing_plugins, set it to false [14:58] to true * [14:58] Great! [14:58] juanito, ha, well, you could've done the same with Xubuntu :) [14:58] vinnl somebody said here yesterday [14:59] that xubuntu had less gui than ubuntu [14:59] it doesnt [14:59] its just that GNOME's gui is more complete than XFCE's one [14:59] i can't remember who said that [14:59] Well... GNOME has more GUI applications [15:00] but for the ubuntu-specific guis, what ubuntu/gnome has, xubuntu/xfce has it too [15:00] Though you can even install them in Xubuntu if you really want to ;-) [15:00] That was charlie-tca I believe ;-) [15:00] * SiDi uses nautilus when he needs to use smb or sftp graphically :p [15:00] For example, Ubuntu comes with a "Screen Resolution" application that Xubuntu doesn't come with [15:00] (It does have it's own application to configure the screen resolution though) [15:01] i think i will need more than a year to understand just a bit of the desktop [15:01] ,( [15:01] A better example: Ubuntu has a "Dictionary" application, Xubuntu doesn't (there's a panel plugin, I believe)... However, I installed it anyway [15:01] Heh, operating systems are complex beasts :) [15:01] just imagine the terminal [15:02] ;(( [15:02] Yeah, well... I hate the terminal too, I never really use it [15:02] If you don't run into odd bugs then you don't need to either [15:03] i *love* terminal :D [15:03] are you sure i could manage without terminal? [15:03] jaja [15:03] Well, as I said, if you don't run into odd bugs ;-) [15:03] you can do 95~99% of what you need to do, without term [15:03] * charlie-tca hangs head [15:03] but you'll just notice that its sometimes faster to use it [15:03] and little by little you'll begin to :P [15:04] I don't :P [15:04] i would be very happy just with 10% [15:04] jajaja [15:04] another question [15:05] is synaptic the gui of apt-get? [15:05] or are different applications [15:05] The former [15:06] It is a graphical front-end, same for the "Add/Remove..." application [15:06] its a very complete gui for apt-get [15:06] In turn, apt-get is, I believe, a front-end for dpkg, which is used to install individual packages [15:06] but the Add/Remove window is more user friendly (but it doesnt manage everything) [15:06] But you don't really ned to know that ;-) [15:06] and aptitude is another application completely different? [15:07] or i'm mixing everything [15:07] like a dj [15:08] aptitude is an alternative to apt-get, but also a front-end to dpkg, I believe [15:08] But if I were you I'd stick to Add/Remove [15:08] And perhaps Synaptic, occasionally [15:08] you frightened me my friend [15:08] Oh, there's also gdebi, which is *also* a front-end to dpkg, but graphical... It's what you get when you double-click packages you downloaded separately [15:09] Sorry :P [15:09] isn't synaptic for me? [15:09] yet? [15:09] Yes, Synaptic is fine [15:09] A better example: Ubuntu has a "Dictionary" application, Xubuntu doesn't (there's a panel plugin, I believe [15:09] we added it in intrepid [15:09] under applications -> office [15:10] charlie-tca, I don't have it... [15:10] You still running minimal install? [15:10] Never have [15:10] weird, I got it [15:11] charlie-tca, you mean GNOME's application? [15:11] so if i understood correctly i can have kde xfce and gnome in the same machine [15:11] Yep [15:11] and if i download a package or application.......... [15:12] it will be shown in them all? [15:12] Yes [15:12] for example [15:12] i want to download rigt now gufw [15:12] Xfce4 Dictionary [15:12] will it appear in the menu? [15:12] juanito, yes [15:13] charlie-tca, oh wait, that's what I got installed... But it's under Accessories for me [15:13] vinnl: Might have been moved for jaunty [15:14] Ah right [15:16] it works [15:16] ;P [15:16] \o/ [15:16] * charlie-tca thinks vinnl can fix most everything, if we listen to him [15:17] I doubt it :P [15:18] I read your blog [15:18] i've got that dictionary you mentioned above [15:20] it came installed by default i think [15:20] Good to hear :) [15:21] i had lots of questions to ask but i forgot them all [15:22] ;P [15:22] All your issues were magically resolved :) [15:22] no no [15:22] my main questio was that about kde gnome and xfce [15:23] but i had more [15:23] i can't remember them now [15:24] ah yes [15:24] is linux really viruses-free? [15:25] i think there are trojans for linux too [15:25] am i right? [15:25] There might be some, somewhere in the dark corners of the internet [15:26] But I don't think I'd be able to run them even if I were to find one [15:26] i mean [15:26]