| vauge | hello | 02:08 |
|---|---|---|
| LaserJock | hi | 02:08 |
| vauge | have a quick question about edubuntu | 02:09 |
| vauge | I did a 8.10 normal install with all updates... then ran apt-get install edubuntu-desktop | 02:10 |
| vauge | there is no session login for edubuntu, should there be? | 02:10 |
| LaserJock | no | 02:11 |
| LaserJock | Edubuntu just gives you educational apps on top of Ubuntu | 02:11 |
| vauge | ok. there is now a kde selection, but it gives errors when attempting to login using it | 02:12 |
| LaserJock | hmm, odd | 02:12 |
| LaserJock | did you install edubuntu-desktop or edubuntu-desktop-kde? | 02:12 |
| vauge | just edubuntu-desktop | 02:13 |
| LaserJock | I wouldn't have thought that the KDE Edu components would have gotten you a KDE session | 02:13 |
| LaserJock | don't worry about the KDE session then | 02:13 |
| vauge | kk :) | 02:13 |
| LaserJock | it apparently is just because we install KDE Edu parts | 02:13 |
| LaserJock | it's no the full KDE desktop | 02:13 |
| LaserJock | which is why it gave errors | 02:13 |
| vauge | that makes sense | 02:14 |
| LaserJock | vauge: thanks for bringing that up though, we should look into that, I can imagine it would be a bit confusing | 02:14 |
| vauge | it feels to work ok in gnome, but the session selection confused me a bit. | 02:15 |
| LaserJock | yeah | 02:15 |
| LaserJock | it's made for Gnome | 02:15 |
| LaserJock | even though there are some KDE Edu apps | 02:15 |
| LaserJock | they should still work fine in Gnome | 02:16 |
| vauge | all good. I use Amarok (don't tell anyone) | 02:16 |
| * LaserJock promises not to ;-) | 02:16 | |
| vauge | heh, dansguardian... I can't seem to find it again in the wiki, but is there something unique about edubuntu and dan's? | 02:17 |
| LaserJock | no, if it worked with Ubuntu it should work with Edubuntu | 02:18 |
| vauge | awesome - thank you | 02:18 |
| LaserJock | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Servers/DansGuardian perhaps? | 02:18 |
| vauge | got that one, was about to roll with it. But found another on edubuntu specific wiki | 02:19 |
| vauge | can't seem to find it again | 02:20 |
| vauge | https://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuProxy | 02:24 |
| LaserJock | weird, I don't know why that page is there | 02:25 |
| vauge | LaserJock, thank you much for your time | 02:31 |
| LaserJock | vauge: no problem, thanks for dropping by | 02:32 |
| * anom1 has deployed a Rover to try to find water (and life) in this channel. | 12:11 | |
| rxKaffee | hi guys | 17:20 |
| rxKaffee | anyone know of some applications/games that would be age-appropriate for a 2yo? | 17:20 |
| rxKaffee | he loves to get at my keyboard, but it seems always when I do not need any extra keys pressed! lol | 17:20 |
| rxKaffee | so I figured I'd setup a secondary box for my son to play on while I'm working at my desktop | 17:20 |
| merriam | rxKaffee: Tux Paint | 18:01 |
| merriam | sudo apt-get install tuxpaint | 18:01 |
| merriam | and other packages under "junior" | 18:01 |
| rxKaffee | merriam: I think anything requiring much mouse, or any mouse with clicking, is a bit too advanced at this point | 19:38 |
| merriam | Yes, it's difficult, but it may be worth a try. | 19:39 |
| rxKaffee | maybe I can find one of those old ball-mice that used to be popular, trackball or whatever | 19:40 |
| merriam | You can get a new trackball. They're still popular. I'm using one. | 19:40 |
| rxKaffee | merriam: the ones with the stationary base, and the big ball sticking up out of the top? | 19:41 |
| merriam | Small ones are popular anyway, from Logitech. You can still get new big ones too. | 19:41 |
| rxKaffee | well I'll be darn, I haven't seen any of those in years | 19:41 |
| merriam | http://cil614.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/kensington_trackball.jpg | 19:43 |
| rxKaffee | nifty | 19:43 |
| rxKaffee | looks fairly simple to take apart too | 19:43 |
| merriam | a bit smaller and optical, still available new: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/143730 Kensington Orbit Optical Trackball - USB/PS2 £17.46inc vat | 19:47 |
| rxKaffee | hmm, seems to be a UK-only model number | 19:50 |
| rxKaffee | a very similar one(by the same name) is avail here though | 19:51 |
| rxKaffee | wonder why they'd have e seperate model number for europe | 19:51 |
| merriam | yes, and the larger one, on amazon, U.S. Amazon.com: Kensington Orbit Optical Trackball Mouse 64327: Electronics | 19:53 |
| merriam | http://www.amazon.com/Kensington-Orbit-Optical-Trackball-64327/dp/B00006W2QD/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1236541914&sr=8-1 | 19:53 |
| merriam | Amazon.com: Kensington Expert Mouse Optical USB Trackball for PC or Mac 64325: Electronics | 19:53 |
| merriam | http://www.amazon.com/Kensington-Expert-Mouse-Optical-Trackball/dp/B00009KH63/ref=pd_bbs_2?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1236541914&sr=8-2 | 19:53 |
| rxKaffee | merriam: any idea the size of the clickbuttons on that orbit? I'm thinking just slightly larger than a standard mouse's? | 19:53 |
| merriam | I don't know the two-button ones, but there are scale cues in the pictures on that amazon page. | 19:54 |
| merriam | http://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-media/product-gallery/B00006W2QD/ref=cm_ciu_pdp_images_0?ie=UTF8&index=0 | 19:54 |
| merriam | I have the big square one, and about 4 of the Logitech ones with the red thumb ball -- that's what I use. | 19:55 |
| merriam | TrackMan Wheel -- less suitable for a toddler, but more generally useful | 19:57 |
| rxKaffee | wheeeew! that expertmouse is a pricey buggar! | 19:58 |
| rxKaffee | well, not so much the one you linked me on amazon, but some of the other expermouse models that I'm seeing around, almust a hundred bucks | 19:58 |
| merriam | Yes, and it uses a lot of space too. The Orbit will do. | 19:59 |
| rxKaffee | I'm guessing kensington make pretty good quality components eh? | 19:59 |
| rxKaffee | 'cause its gonna see a bit of abuse lol | 19:59 |
| merriam | The one I have wasn't built as well as I expected. It hasn't broken, but it hasn't had much testing. | 20:00 |
| merriam | It's mechanical. The optical type is generally worth the money. | 20:01 |
| merriam | I think Kensington stuff used to be sturdy and reliable, but maybe not any more. | 20:02 |
| rxKaffee | I was kinda hopeing to find a mechanical actually... I suspect he'll pop the ball off and realise playing with the light is more fun than using it to control the PC lol | 20:03 |
| merriam | Optical is more robust, and the old type is very annoying when it slips. | 20:04 |
| merriam | Until recently Kensington made a nice black usb keyboard with a standard layout, but I've worn out 3 of them. | 20:06 |
| merriam | I'm back to a clicky IBM that says 1985 on the bottom. | 20:06 |
| merriam | The light on the Logitechs is invisble -- IR. I have a Marble too. I don't know about the others. | 20:09 |
| merriam | In my experience all the designs with central balls are very inefficient for general use. | 20:11 |
| rxKaffee | I looked at a couple of the logitech marbles, but they didn't really strike me as particularly toddler friendly for some indescribable reason | 20:12 |
| rxKaffee | I'm with ya on likeing those IBM clickers, with the modular cord design | 20:12 |
| merriam | Yes, the Marble is a bit small, and you can easily press buttons on it by mistake. | 20:15 |
| merriam | It's not so much that I like buckling springs. Sometimes I want a quieter keyboard. It's mainly that it still works perfectly. | 20:16 |
| rxKaffee | I like 'em cause of the positive-engagement of the keys | 20:24 |
| rxKaffee | which to me, makes the noise tolerable | 20:24 |
| rxKaffee | however, I've recently "upgraded" to an ergonomic keyboard | 20:24 |
| rxKaffee | microsoft natural ergonomic 4000 | 20:24 |
| rxKaffee | I'd venture to say that next to Xenix, its the second best product MS has ever made lol | 20:25 |
| rxKaffee | its got the nice positive feel to the keys like an IBM, a more managable noise level, and some cool "extra" buttons that come in handy sometime | 20:25 |
| rxKaffee | haven't had it long enough though to know if it'll stand to the test of time | 20:25 |
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