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JontheEchidnakde svn 93657200:41
ubottuhttp://websvn.kde.org/trunk/?rev=936572&view=rev | svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk -r 936572 | Fix bug of all icons disappearing! Thanks to Lamarque Vieira Souza for the original patch (I slightly modified it...). Someon...00:41
JontheEchidna\o/ quicklaunch patch00:41
vorianYES!!00:42
* vorian is still deleting rosetta emails00:42
JontheEchidnalol00:43
JontheEchidnaso your karma should have like, doubled again right?00:43
vorianwe'll see00:43
voriani only got 150,000 points from yesterdays fiasco00:44
JontheEchidnalol00:44
JontheEchidnaholy shit, lol00:44
* JontheEchidna stares at his measly 73,00000:44
* vorian Karma: 49425000:45
JontheEchidna3,000 of which is from translations00:45
vorian(which will all disappear as soon as they fix the bug)00:45
JontheEchidnahttp://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/kdebase-workspace/ubuntu/revision/5400:55
JontheEchidnaI just noticed that the last four patches in debian/patches/series are from me, lol00:56
JontheEchidnawow, usplash looks scary01:21
ScottK\o03:56
a|wenScottK: du you have time to look at the changes I mage to kdebindings (jaunty)? ... it's in bzr12:25
a|wenJontheEchidna: another thing... can i have you testbuild kdeartwork from the experimental ppa in a pbuilder and see if it FTBFS or builds for you?12:26
JontheEchidnaalso if somebody could sponsor kdeadmin, kdebase-workspace-and perhaps kubuntu-default-settings for me, that'd be great :P12:29
a|wenJontheEchidna: i think we are short on core-devs atm ;)12:30
* JontheEchidna needs to become a core-dev12:30
JontheEchidnalol, yeah12:30
a|wenJontheEchidna: i actually have a MOTU job for you in the meantime :) ... kile merged with debian/experimental http://awen.dk/packages/kile/12:31
* JontheEchidna wonders if it's feature freeze compatible12:32
* JontheEchidna realizes that we forgot to clear the last kile upload with motu-release, eep12:32
a|wenJontheEchidna: it's a 4 day newer svn checkout containing bugfixes only ... and i've kept the changes down (and the merge-diff a tiny bit bigger)12:33
a|wenJontheEchidna: so changes to recommends/suggests ... and an updated copyright12:34
JontheEchidnaI think it might be best if we followed this process: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreezeExceptionProcess#FeatureFreeze for bug fix only updates (process agreed by motu-release)12:36
JontheEchidnaand blah, that link got mutilated12:36
JontheEchidnaanyhow, I'll take a look at your upload in the meanwhile12:36
a|wenyeah, you might be right12:38
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cryingtuxhello13:00
ScottKJontheEchidna: Probably later today.13:05
cryingtux_hi13:07
cryingtux_i want to talk to the person running http://apt.pearsoncomputing.net/13:08
cryingtux_does he come here?13:08
devilsadvocatecryingtux_, whats special about that repo (vs ubuntu main)13:28
ScottKcryingtux_: That person has been here once or twice but is not a Kubuntu developer.13:33
ScottKdevilsadvocate: It's for KDE 3.5 on Intrepid.13:33
devilsadvocateoh13:33
* devilsadvocate didnt notice13:34
cryingtux_devilsadvocate: he left this channel link on his website13:34
cryingtux_i have downloaded his iso but there is no username pw for it, so i cant login to it, wanted to ask him about that13:34
cryingtux_but i have sent him an email now13:36
cryingtux_meanwhile is it appropriate to ask here about "how to install fully working jwm on intrepid" ??13:38
JontheEchidnaa|wen: list missing sez the following are missing:13:38
JontheEchidna-./usr/share/doc/kile/ChangeLog13:38
JontheEchidna-./usr/share/doc/kile/README.MacOSX13:38
a|wenJontheEchidna: that's because the changelog get's renamed to fit the debian policy for an upstream changelog ... and the MacOSX is really macosx specific13:40
JontheEchidnaaah, good reasons13:41
JontheEchidnaok, looks great!13:41
JontheEchidnaJust file the bug report documenting that we're uploading a bugfix release and I can sponsor13:43
a|wenokay... i'll do that13:43
a|wenJontheEchidna: bug 33953113:50
ubottuLaunchpad bug 339531 in kile "bugfix-update and merge with debian" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/33953113:50
JontheEchidnacool13:50
a|wenJontheEchidna: do you mark it with LP: # in the changelog?13:50
JontheEchidnaI can do that here13:51
a|wenperfect... thx a lot13:51
JontheEchidnayw13:51
JontheEchidnaa|wen: uploaded13:54
a|wenthx!13:54
a|wenJontheEchidna: how did kdeartwork in jaunty go?13:55
JontheEchidnaa|wen: what's in bzr built in my uni/multiverse-less pbuilder13:55
a|wenJontheEchidna: okay ... did you have to change anything?13:56
JontheEchidnaI had to remove several screensaver .desktop files from kscreensaver.install13:56
a|wenokay13:56
a|wenJontheEchidna: are you any good with cmake? 'cause kdeartwork on intrepid is just strange14:05
JontheEchidnalike, with working with a CMakeLists.txt file?14:06
a|wenmaybe ... i have no idea what goes wrong here14:06
JontheEchidnanot really :(14:07
a|wenokay ... in my pbuilder the last find_file() in http://awen.dk/temp/CMakeLists.txt finds files that isn't there, and i have no idea why14:08
JontheEchidnaweird14:09
a|wensee that was also what i thought14:10
a|weni removed a commented-out line in that cmake, so it would spit out all files found ... and this is the result my http://awen.dk/temp/build.log14:11
a|wenmy problem is at least /usr/share/xscreensaver/config/fliptext.xml ... i could verify that it wasn't in the chroot while it build; that freaked me out a bit14:12
JontheEchidnafliptest wasn't in jaunty either14:12
JontheEchidnanor was cwaves14:12
JontheEchidnabut cmake correctly detected they werent there14:12
a|wenyeah ... and that makes things a bit easier14:13
a|wenin this case it does actually install the .desktop files14:13
a|wenthe strange thing is that when it builds in the buildd cmake correctly detects that the *.xml files aren't there14:15
JontheEchidnatried a clean pbuilder w/o universe and multiverse sources.list entries?14:16
JontheEchidnamaybe it's something funky with the current chroot14:17
a|weni'm in the process of creating one ... just takes forever to debootstrap on a slow connection14:17
JontheEchidnayeah, I feel ya there14:17
a|wen"funky chroot" <-- new default explanation of build failures14:18
JontheEchidnalol14:18
ghostcubehi folks15:50
ghostcubehmm is powerdevil not anymore in intrepid kde 4.2.115:50
a|wenghostcube: it is15:51
ghostcubehmm if i try to install i get libplasma2 inst going to be installed15:51
ghostcubemaybe wrong dependency15:51
ScottKghostcube: Don't install the separate package.  It's part of kdebase-workspace in 4.215:52
ghostcubehmm how can i get the icon for it back to taskbar to switch cpu and profiles15:53
ghostcubeoO15:53
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a|wenghostcube: add the "battery manager" widget15:54
ghostcubeah ok i see15:54
ghostcubebefore it was better :)15:57
ScottKI'm not a huge fan of the battery manager widget.  It takes up way to much space to start with.15:58
ghostcubeyou cant see the cpu speed the old icon showed this so nice :)15:58
a|wenat least on a small screen it is all to big16:03
ghostcubeok guys xu16:14
ghostcubecu16:14
_Simea|wen: what is the status of the pykdeuic problem?16:57
_Simea|wen: it looks like I've got some "unscrewing up" to do...16:57
a|wen_Sime: fix uploaded to bzr in jaunty; i'm waiting for a core-dev to sponsor... and then it needs backporting16:58
_Simea|wen: was the fix to just restore the kde.py file?16:59
a|wen_Sime: restore and install it, jup16:59
_Simea|wen: there is a chance that it will break pykdeuic4, but it should fix the printer thingy.17:01
a|wen_Sime: uh, great ... break one or the other17:02
_Simea "chance"17:02
_SimeI'll look into it now...17:02
a|wen_Sime: you mean that simply having kde4.py there would break pykdeuic4?17:04
_Simea|wen: possibly.17:05
a|wen_Sime: do we have something with which we can test that?17:05
a|weni have a test-build done ... so can play around with it in a chroot in ~5 mins17:06
ScottKa|wen: Do you know yet if the kdebindings upload is OK?17:26
a|wenScottK: see my discussion with _Sime ^^ ... i've tried a few apps until now none of them failed17:27
ScottKa|wen: Right.  Saw the discussion, so I wanted to see if you'd reached a conclusion.17:28
a|wencan't find anything in particular that seems to break ... would hope that _Sime had a good example of one that might do it if my assumptions were wrong17:34
ScottKTest building here now, so there's a while yet to figure it out if I should stop.17:45
a|wenokay, nice to know17:49
claydohScottK:  ok, as alpha 6 nears, what changes will there be?17:57
* claydoh will get a head start on the wiki page this time :)17:57
ScottKclaydoh: Qt 4.5 and KDE 4.2.1 are the big ones.17:57
claydohkpackagekit as well18:00
claydohwhich iice btws n18:01
claydohwhich is nice btw18:01
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a|wenScottK: tested most of the rdepends now, haven't been able to break anything by adding kde4.py ... i still have a feeling it might be removed in error, since it is still referenced in the 4.2.1 documentation18:07
ScottKa|wen: Sounds good.  Thanks.18:10
a|wenScottK: when(/if) this get done i think we should backport it to the experimental-ppa; and there is a bugfix in kdebase we might want to backport as well... do we do that? and am I able to do it if i want that?18:14
ScottKYes and Yes.18:14
a|wenokay, good ... then that might be fun for tomorrow then18:15
cumulus007does kubuntu have a LTS version?18:19
ScottKcumulus007: Dapper was LTS, but that was the last one.18:21
cumulus007and why ?18:21
ScottKWhen Hardy was released it was not considered supportable for 3 years.18:22
cumulus007because of the KDE 4 migration?18:22
ScottKMainly.18:23
ScottKAlso the KDE3 X windows tools don't work very well with the x-server shipped in Hardy as they had been pretty unmaintained.18:23
ScottKI wasn't in on the decision, so I can't tell you exactly what they were thinking.18:24
ScottKBut basically KDE3 is dead.18:24
smarterwhat's the procedure to backport a fix to kubuntu-default-settings?18:24
ScottKsmarter: Is this for kubuntu-experimental or for intrepid-backports?18:25
smarterit's 4.2 related18:26
smarterso -experimental I assume18:26
smartersee my last commit to kubuntu-default-settings branch18:26
smarterasked by upstream18:26
ScottKThen you can upload a new k-d-s to k-e.18:26
smarterokay18:26
lex79ScottK: can you tell Anthony to open a FFE before to upload a new release packages? or at least look first in Launchpad? :)18:28
ScottKlex79: I can talk to him about it.  What packages?18:29
* smarter assumes lex79 referes to k3b18:29
smarter*refers18:29
lex79kblogger and filelight, sorry but I don't like this :)18:30
lex79https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kblogger-kde4/+bug/33469018:30
ubottuUbuntu bug 334690 in kblogger-kde4 "Update kblogger to 1.0 alpha 3" [Wishlist,Confirmed]18:30
lex79https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/filelight/+bug/33503118:30
ubottuUbuntu bug 335031 in filelight "New upstream release filelight 1.9~beta for kde4" [Wishlist,Fix released]18:30
lex79now I want open a FFe for kopete thinklight18:31
lex79smarter: k3b?18:32
smartera new upstream svn snapshot got uploaded recently18:33
smarterbut maybe it went throught FFe, didn't look at it18:33
lex79smarter: ok18:35
lex79anyone can upload this https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qt-creator/+bug/337343 ?18:35
ubottuUbuntu bug 337343 in qt-creator "Menu icon is missing" [Undecided,Confirmed]18:35
ScottKI know he talked to Riddell about k3b.18:40
nhandlerlex79: The debdiff does more than just change the icon18:43
lex79nhandler: yes, I used desktop-file-validate to fix warnings and errors18:44
nhandlerlex79: I know that, but you failed to mention that in the changelog18:48
nhandlerlex79: Just out of curiosity, what was d-f-v complaining about in the Mimetype field?18:49
lex79nhandler: http://paste.ubuntu.com/128433/18:54
lex79duplicate text/x-c++src;18:54
lex79in mimetype field18:54
nhandlerAh, thanks lex79.18:55
lex79nhandler: you're welcome, in the changelog I have to write in detail all the changes that I do in .desktop ?18:57
nhandlerlex79: No, but you should mention that you modified the .desktop file to validate with desktop-file-validate. Currently, it looks like you just fixed a missing icon19:00
lex79ok19:00
nhandlerlex79: You should also send your patch upstream to Debian19:02
nhandlerlex79: Ignore that, I'm mixing up patches ;)19:02
lex79ok :D19:03
ScottKa|wen: kdebindings uploaded.  Thank you for your contribution to Kubuntu.19:09
a|wenScottK: thx ... backport of it is now added for my todo-list for tomorrow19:10
jjesserebuilding my laptop as a main intrepid box, who has the ppa for quasell?19:10
ScottKa|wen: Excellent.19:11
ScottKjjesse: It's in intrepid-backports.19:11
jjessehrmm ok19:11
jjesseand powerdevil is the battery applet correct?19:12
a|wenjjesse: are you using kde4.2(.1) ?19:12
ScottKThe batter applet is the thing for powerdevil.19:12
ScottKbattery....19:13
ScottKPowerdevil is there whether  or not you add the widget.19:13
smarterScottK: there is a plasmoid for powerdevil?19:14
ScottKThe battery one is the only one I know of.19:14
a|wenit's the only one we ship at least19:17
hungerAny idea why kdeadmin is not installable anymore in jaunty?19:39
hungers/installable/upgradeable/19:39
a|wenuh oh, that helped a bit ... just got >2.5GB space by cleaning a bit in my development dir19:39
a|wenhunger: amd64? ;(19:39
a|wen;)19:39
hungera|wen: Yeap.19:40
hungerStuff failed to build?19:40
a|wennot built yet (failed to build)19:40
hungerAh, thanks for the explaination!19:41
a|wenScottK: ^^ kdeadmin failed on amd64; i think this is due to bindings pulling in python2.5 ...might want to retry kdeadmin when it is built19:43
ScottKa|wen: Thanks.19:43
lex79nhandler: Fix debian/qtcreator.desktop for missing icon (LP: #337343) and modified it to validate with desktop-file-validate19:55
lex79is it ok?19:55
txwikingerhi folks19:56
Quintasantxwikinger: ji19:57
Quintasanhi*19:57
txwikingerhi Quintasan19:57
* txwikinger thinks it is wubi.exe time20:02
nhandlerlex79: I normally do something like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/128460/, but what you have is fine20:09
lex79thanks20:09
Mojo_risinhi. my plasma is crashing on startup since my last update20:10
txwikingerHi nhandler20:10
Mojo_risini heard in #kde that it's a known issue in kubuntu20:10
Mojo_risinthe backtrace it produces is invalid, how can i investigate this further?20:11
Mojo_risinkubuntu 8.1020:11
Mojo_risinany help appreciated since this makes my desktop unusable20:13
Mojo_risin(I already tried the #kubuntu channel)20:17
a|wenJontheEchidna: new fresh main-only intrepid pbuilder ... and cmake keeps seeing files that isn't there; this is no fun :(20:22
txwikingerMojo_risin: install the dbg package for the software in problem20:23
vorianafternoon20:24
nhandlerHey vorian20:31
jjessehello vorian20:46
ryanakcajjesse: ping, would you happen to know the status of help.kubuntu.org ?21:02
jjesseryanakca: pong, i haven't heard anything, i've been pretty muhc out of the loop on things this cycle, trying to get back in21:14
ryanakcajjesse: *nod*, thanks, same here...21:14
ryanakcanixternal: ping, would you happen to know the status of help.kubuntu.org ?21:16
nixternalryanakca: don't know the status at all....been busy working on a project and trying to get the docs up to date....we should look into all of this once Riddell returns from his current trip and has a few moments to discuss how it should be21:35
ScottK-desktopTonio_: I noticed you uploaded a ~ppa k3b for KDE4 to the official archive.  Was that on purpose?22:21
Tonio_ScottK: ouch...22:21
ScottK-desktop1.0.5+kde4svn935857-0ubuntu1~ppa122:22
Tonio_ScottK: looks like ubuntu went back to default on my dput config.... that's bad...22:22
ScottK-desktopTonio_: I do recommend leaving the default set to a non-existant target so you have to say where you want it to go every time ...22:23
Tonio_ScottK-desktop: makes sense indeed.... I'll do that22:23
Tonio_ScottK-desktop: basically what should we do now ? is there a way to switch back to the previous upload ?22:24
ScottK-desktopTonio_: You'd have to upload a 'new' upstream version something like 1.0.5+kde4svn935857+really1.0.522:24
Tonio_yep doing that now...22:25
Tonio_and changing my dput.cf file....22:26
Tonio_ScottK-desktop: thanks for noticing....22:26
ryanakcanixternal: okies22:27
Tonio_ScottK-desktop: well in this case the problem was due to my bash history :)22:32
Tonio_ctrl + R + "debui" + tab + enter22:32
Tonio_that combinason can also be dangerous :)22:33
ScottK-desktopYep.22:33
Tonio_ScottK-desktop: reuploaded kde3 version... one again thanks :)22:34
FireRabbitJontheEchidna: im sorry to be a pain but the kdebindings package in the ppa for intrepid is still messed up... do you think you'll have time to fix that quickly soon?22:37
ScottKFireRabbit: We just uploaded a new kdebindings to Jaunty today.  A new PPA upload is expected to follow tomorrow.22:49
FireRabbitokay thanks22:51
a|wenFireRabbit: anything in particular that is "messed up"?22:53
a|wenjust to know if you've found something new22:55
FireRabbita|wen: the qyoto packages are empty22:58
FireRabbitthey were supposed to have been removed for intrepid22:58
a|wenFireRabbit: yeah, I see ... i'll take that with me in the batch23:01
FireRabbitok thanks. JontheEchidna had a patch to fix it up btw23:06
a|wento get .NET building again ... or to get rid of the packages?23:07
a|wenFireRabbit: ^23:07
FireRabbitto get rid of them. they arent going to work on intrepid due to the version of mono23:07
a|wenahh, that should be simple enough ... the other option was more fun, he23:08
a|wenkde4binding testbuilding away now ... i'll go to sleep in the meantime23:09
FireRabbiti dont think its worth it. i've got it working on my PPA along with a newer version of mono.23:09
a|wennot worth it then, no23:09
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tsdgeosis there a known plasma crash on startup in 4.2.1 package or i just hit a "valid" bu23:18
tsdgeos+g23:18
ScottKtsdgeos: If you can get a good backtrace it's definitely worth filing a bug.23:30
tsdgeosScottK: seems already fixed at least on trunk23:30
ScottKIf there's a backtrace then that'll give a chance of figuring out what commit fixed it.23:31

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