[00:41] kde svn 936572 [00:41] http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/?rev=936572&view=rev | svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk -r 936572 | Fix bug of all icons disappearing! Thanks to Lamarque Vieira Souza for the original patch (I slightly modified it...). Someon... [00:41] \o/ quicklaunch patch [00:42] YES!! [00:42] * vorian is still deleting rosetta emails [00:43] lol [00:43] so your karma should have like, doubled again right? [00:43] we'll see [00:44] i only got 150,000 points from yesterdays fiasco [00:44] lol [00:44] holy shit, lol [00:44] * JontheEchidna stares at his measly 73,000 [00:45] * vorian Karma: 494250 [00:45] 3,000 of which is from translations [00:45] (which will all disappear as soon as they fix the bug) [00:55] http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/kdebase-workspace/ubuntu/revision/54 [00:56] I just noticed that the last four patches in debian/patches/series are from me, lol [01:21] wow, usplash looks scary [03:56] \o [12:25] ScottK: du you have time to look at the changes I mage to kdebindings (jaunty)? ... it's in bzr [12:26] JontheEchidna: another thing... can i have you testbuild kdeartwork from the experimental ppa in a pbuilder and see if it FTBFS or builds for you? [12:29] also if somebody could sponsor kdeadmin, kdebase-workspace-and perhaps kubuntu-default-settings for me, that'd be great :P [12:30] JontheEchidna: i think we are short on core-devs atm ;) [12:30] * JontheEchidna needs to become a core-dev [12:30] lol, yeah [12:31] JontheEchidna: i actually have a MOTU job for you in the meantime :) ... kile merged with debian/experimental http://awen.dk/packages/kile/ [12:32] * JontheEchidna wonders if it's feature freeze compatible [12:32] * JontheEchidna realizes that we forgot to clear the last kile upload with motu-release, eep [12:33] JontheEchidna: it's a 4 day newer svn checkout containing bugfixes only ... and i've kept the changes down (and the merge-diff a tiny bit bigger) [12:34] JontheEchidna: so changes to recommends/suggests ... and an updated copyright [12:36] I think it might be best if we followed this process: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreezeExceptionProcess#FeatureFreeze for bug fix only updates (process agreed by motu-release) [12:36] and blah, that link got mutilated [12:36] anyhow, I'll take a look at your upload in the meanwhile [12:38] yeah, you might be right === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan [13:00] hello [13:05] JontheEchidna: Probably later today. [13:07] hi [13:08] i want to talk to the person running http://apt.pearsoncomputing.net/ [13:08] does he come here? [13:28] cryingtux_, whats special about that repo (vs ubuntu main) [13:33] cryingtux_: That person has been here once or twice but is not a Kubuntu developer. [13:33] devilsadvocate: It's for KDE 3.5 on Intrepid. [13:33] oh [13:34] * devilsadvocate didnt notice [13:34] devilsadvocate: he left this channel link on his website [13:34] i have downloaded his iso but there is no username pw for it, so i cant login to it, wanted to ask him about that [13:36] but i have sent him an email now [13:38] meanwhile is it appropriate to ask here about "how to install fully working jwm on intrepid" ?? [13:38] a|wen: list missing sez the following are missing: [13:38] -./usr/share/doc/kile/ChangeLog [13:38] -./usr/share/doc/kile/README.MacOSX [13:40] JontheEchidna: that's because the changelog get's renamed to fit the debian policy for an upstream changelog ... and the MacOSX is really macosx specific [13:41] aah, good reasons [13:41] ok, looks great! [13:43] Just file the bug report documenting that we're uploading a bugfix release and I can sponsor [13:43] okay... i'll do that [13:50] JontheEchidna: bug 339531 [13:50] Launchpad bug 339531 in kile "bugfix-update and merge with debian" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/339531 [13:50] cool [13:50] JontheEchidna: do you mark it with LP: # in the changelog? [13:51] I can do that here [13:51] perfect... thx a lot [13:51] yw [13:54] a|wen: uploaded [13:54] thx! [13:55] JontheEchidna: how did kdeartwork in jaunty go? [13:55] a|wen: what's in bzr built in my uni/multiverse-less pbuilder [13:56] JontheEchidna: okay ... did you have to change anything? [13:56] I had to remove several screensaver .desktop files from kscreensaver.install [13:56] okay [14:05] JontheEchidna: are you any good with cmake? 'cause kdeartwork on intrepid is just strange [14:06] like, with working with a CMakeLists.txt file? [14:06] maybe ... i have no idea what goes wrong here [14:07] not really :( [14:08] okay ... in my pbuilder the last find_file() in http://awen.dk/temp/CMakeLists.txt finds files that isn't there, and i have no idea why [14:09] weird [14:10] see that was also what i thought [14:11] i removed a commented-out line in that cmake, so it would spit out all files found ... and this is the result my http://awen.dk/temp/build.log [14:12] my problem is at least /usr/share/xscreensaver/config/fliptext.xml ... i could verify that it wasn't in the chroot while it build; that freaked me out a bit [14:12] fliptest wasn't in jaunty either [14:12] nor was cwaves [14:12] but cmake correctly detected they werent there [14:13] yeah ... and that makes things a bit easier [14:13] in this case it does actually install the .desktop files [14:15] the strange thing is that when it builds in the buildd cmake correctly detects that the *.xml files aren't there [14:16] tried a clean pbuilder w/o universe and multiverse sources.list entries? [14:17] maybe it's something funky with the current chroot [14:17] i'm in the process of creating one ... just takes forever to debootstrap on a slow connection [14:17] yeah, I feel ya there [14:18] "funky chroot" <-- new default explanation of build failures [14:18] lol [15:50] hi folks [15:50] hmm is powerdevil not anymore in intrepid kde 4.2.1 [15:51] ghostcube: it is [15:51] hmm if i try to install i get libplasma2 inst going to be installed [15:51] maybe wrong dependency [15:52] ghostcube: Don't install the separate package. It's part of kdebase-workspace in 4.2 [15:53] hmm how can i get the icon for it back to taskbar to switch cpu and profiles [15:53] oO === nhandler changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu Development | Alpha-5 released! | 8.04.2 released! - http://www.kubuntu.org/node/69 | Feature Freeze in effect - Fix bugs | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo [15:54] ghostcube: add the "battery manager" widget [15:54] ah ok i see [15:57] before it was better :) [15:58] I'm not a huge fan of the battery manager widget. It takes up way to much space to start with. [15:58] you cant see the cpu speed the old icon showed this so nice :) [16:03] at least on a small screen it is all to big [16:14] ok guys xu [16:14] cu [16:57] <_Sime> a|wen: what is the status of the pykdeuic problem? [16:57] <_Sime> a|wen: it looks like I've got some "unscrewing up" to do... [16:58] _Sime: fix uploaded to bzr in jaunty; i'm waiting for a core-dev to sponsor... and then it needs backporting [16:59] <_Sime> a|wen: was the fix to just restore the kde.py file? [16:59] _Sime: restore and install it, jup [17:01] <_Sime> a|wen: there is a chance that it will break pykdeuic4, but it should fix the printer thingy. [17:02] _Sime: uh, great ... break one or the other [17:02] <_Sime> a "chance" [17:02] <_Sime> I'll look into it now... [17:04] _Sime: you mean that simply having kde4.py there would break pykdeuic4? [17:05] <_Sime> a|wen: possibly. [17:05] _Sime: do we have something with which we can test that? [17:06] i have a test-build done ... so can play around with it in a chroot in ~5 mins [17:26] a|wen: Do you know yet if the kdebindings upload is OK? [17:27] ScottK: see my discussion with _Sime ^^ ... i've tried a few apps until now none of them failed [17:28] a|wen: Right. Saw the discussion, so I wanted to see if you'd reached a conclusion. [17:34] can't find anything in particular that seems to break ... would hope that _Sime had a good example of one that might do it if my assumptions were wrong [17:45] Test building here now, so there's a while yet to figure it out if I should stop. [17:49] okay, nice to know [17:57] ScottK: ok, as alpha 6 nears, what changes will there be? [17:57] * claydoh will get a head start on the wiki page this time :) [17:57] claydoh: Qt 4.5 and KDE 4.2.1 are the big ones. [18:00] kpackagekit as well [18:01] which iice btws n [18:01] which is nice btw === firephoto_ is now known as firephoto [18:07] ScottK: tested most of the rdepends now, haven't been able to break anything by adding kde4.py ... i still have a feeling it might be removed in error, since it is still referenced in the 4.2.1 documentation [18:10] a|wen: Sounds good. Thanks. [18:14] ScottK: when(/if) this get done i think we should backport it to the experimental-ppa; and there is a bugfix in kdebase we might want to backport as well... do we do that? and am I able to do it if i want that? [18:14] Yes and Yes. [18:15] okay, good ... then that might be fun for tomorrow then [18:19] does kubuntu have a LTS version? [18:21] cumulus007: Dapper was LTS, but that was the last one. [18:21] and why ? [18:22] When Hardy was released it was not considered supportable for 3 years. [18:22] because of the KDE 4 migration? [18:23] Mainly. [18:23] Also the KDE3 X windows tools don't work very well with the x-server shipped in Hardy as they had been pretty unmaintained. [18:24] I wasn't in on the decision, so I can't tell you exactly what they were thinking. [18:24] But basically KDE3 is dead. [18:24] what's the procedure to backport a fix to kubuntu-default-settings? [18:25] smarter: Is this for kubuntu-experimental or for intrepid-backports? [18:26] it's 4.2 related [18:26] so -experimental I assume [18:26] see my last commit to kubuntu-default-settings branch [18:26] asked by upstream [18:26] Then you can upload a new k-d-s to k-e. [18:26] okay [18:28] ScottK: can you tell Anthony to open a FFE before to upload a new release packages? or at least look first in Launchpad? :) [18:29] lex79: I can talk to him about it. What packages? [18:29] * smarter assumes lex79 referes to k3b [18:29] *refers [18:30] kblogger and filelight, sorry but I don't like this :) [18:30] https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kblogger-kde4/+bug/334690 [18:30] Ubuntu bug 334690 in kblogger-kde4 "Update kblogger to 1.0 alpha 3" [Wishlist,Confirmed] [18:30] https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/filelight/+bug/335031 [18:30] Ubuntu bug 335031 in filelight "New upstream release filelight 1.9~beta for kde4" [Wishlist,Fix released] [18:31] now I want open a FFe for kopete thinklight [18:32] smarter: k3b? [18:33] a new upstream svn snapshot got uploaded recently [18:33] but maybe it went throught FFe, didn't look at it [18:35] smarter: ok [18:35] anyone can upload this https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qt-creator/+bug/337343 ? [18:35] Ubuntu bug 337343 in qt-creator "Menu icon is missing" [Undecided,Confirmed] [18:40] I know he talked to Riddell about k3b. [18:43] lex79: The debdiff does more than just change the icon [18:44] nhandler: yes, I used desktop-file-validate to fix warnings and errors [18:48] lex79: I know that, but you failed to mention that in the changelog [18:49] lex79: Just out of curiosity, what was d-f-v complaining about in the Mimetype field? [18:54] nhandler: http://paste.ubuntu.com/128433/ [18:54] duplicate text/x-c++src; [18:54] in mimetype field [18:55] Ah, thanks lex79. [18:57] nhandler: you're welcome, in the changelog I have to write in detail all the changes that I do in .desktop ? [19:00] lex79: No, but you should mention that you modified the .desktop file to validate with desktop-file-validate. Currently, it looks like you just fixed a missing icon [19:00] ok [19:02] lex79: You should also send your patch upstream to Debian [19:02] lex79: Ignore that, I'm mixing up patches ;) [19:03] ok :D [19:09] a|wen: kdebindings uploaded. Thank you for your contribution to Kubuntu. [19:10] ScottK: thx ... backport of it is now added for my todo-list for tomorrow [19:10] rebuilding my laptop as a main intrepid box, who has the ppa for quasell? [19:11] a|wen: Excellent. [19:11] jjesse: It's in intrepid-backports. [19:11] hrmm ok [19:12] and powerdevil is the battery applet correct? [19:12] jjesse: are you using kde4.2(.1) ? [19:12] The batter applet is the thing for powerdevil. [19:13] battery.... [19:13] Powerdevil is there whether or not you add the widget. [19:14] ScottK: there is a plasmoid for powerdevil? [19:14] The battery one is the only one I know of. [19:17] it's the only one we ship at least [19:39] Any idea why kdeadmin is not installable anymore in jaunty? [19:39] s/installable/upgradeable/ [19:39] uh oh, that helped a bit ... just got >2.5GB space by cleaning a bit in my development dir [19:39] hunger: amd64? ;( [19:39] ;) [19:40] a|wen: Yeap. [19:40] Stuff failed to build? [19:40] not built yet (failed to build) [19:41] Ah, thanks for the explaination! [19:43] ScottK: ^^ kdeadmin failed on amd64; i think this is due to bindings pulling in python2.5 ...might want to retry kdeadmin when it is built [19:43] a|wen: Thanks. [19:55] nhandler: Fix debian/qtcreator.desktop for missing icon (LP: #337343) and modified it to validate with desktop-file-validate [19:55] is it ok? [19:56] hi folks [19:57] txwikinger: ji [19:57] hi* [19:57] hi Quintasan [20:02] * txwikinger thinks it is wubi.exe time [20:09] lex79: I normally do something like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/128460/, but what you have is fine [20:09] thanks [20:10] hi. my plasma is crashing on startup since my last update [20:10] Hi nhandler [20:10] i heard in #kde that it's a known issue in kubuntu [20:11] the backtrace it produces is invalid, how can i investigate this further? [20:11] kubuntu 8.10 [20:13] any help appreciated since this makes my desktop unusable [20:17] (I already tried the #kubuntu channel) [20:22] JontheEchidna: new fresh main-only intrepid pbuilder ... and cmake keeps seeing files that isn't there; this is no fun :( [20:23] Mojo_risin: install the dbg package for the software in problem [20:24] afternoon [20:31] Hey vorian [20:46] hello vorian [21:02] jjesse: ping, would you happen to know the status of help.kubuntu.org ? [21:14] ryanakca: pong, i haven't heard anything, i've been pretty muhc out of the loop on things this cycle, trying to get back in [21:14] jjesse: *nod*, thanks, same here... [21:16] nixternal: ping, would you happen to know the status of help.kubuntu.org ? [21:35] ryanakca: don't know the status at all....been busy working on a project and trying to get the docs up to date....we should look into all of this once Riddell returns from his current trip and has a few moments to discuss how it should be [22:21] Tonio_: I noticed you uploaded a ~ppa k3b for KDE4 to the official archive. Was that on purpose? [22:21] ScottK: ouch... [22:22] 1.0.5+kde4svn935857-0ubuntu1~ppa1 [22:22] ScottK: looks like ubuntu went back to default on my dput config.... that's bad... [22:23] Tonio_: I do recommend leaving the default set to a non-existant target so you have to say where you want it to go every time ... [22:23] ScottK-desktop: makes sense indeed.... I'll do that [22:24] ScottK-desktop: basically what should we do now ? is there a way to switch back to the previous upload ? [22:24] Tonio_: You'd have to upload a 'new' upstream version something like 1.0.5+kde4svn935857+really1.0.5 [22:25] yep doing that now... [22:26] and changing my dput.cf file.... [22:26] ScottK-desktop: thanks for noticing.... [22:27] nixternal: okies [22:32] ScottK-desktop: well in this case the problem was due to my bash history :) [22:32] ctrl + R + "debui" + tab + enter [22:33] that combinason can also be dangerous :) [22:33] Yep. [22:34] ScottK-desktop: reuploaded kde3 version... one again thanks :) [22:37] JontheEchidna: im sorry to be a pain but the kdebindings package in the ppa for intrepid is still messed up... do you think you'll have time to fix that quickly soon? [22:49] FireRabbit: We just uploaded a new kdebindings to Jaunty today. A new PPA upload is expected to follow tomorrow. [22:51] okay thanks [22:53] FireRabbit: anything in particular that is "messed up"? [22:55] just to know if you've found something new [22:58] a|wen: the qyoto packages are empty [22:58] they were supposed to have been removed for intrepid [23:01] FireRabbit: yeah, I see ... i'll take that with me in the batch [23:06] ok thanks. JontheEchidna had a patch to fix it up btw [23:07] to get .NET building again ... or to get rid of the packages? [23:07] FireRabbit: ^ [23:07] to get rid of them. they arent going to work on intrepid due to the version of mono [23:08] ahh, that should be simple enough ... the other option was more fun, he [23:09] kde4binding testbuilding away now ... i'll go to sleep in the meantime [23:09] i dont think its worth it. i've got it working on my PPA along with a newer version of mono. [23:09] not worth it then, no === jjesse_ is now known as jjesse [23:18] is there a known plasma crash on startup in 4.2.1 package or i just hit a "valid" bu [23:18] +g [23:30] tsdgeos: If you can get a good backtrace it's definitely worth filing a bug. [23:30] ScottK: seems already fixed at least on trunk [23:31] If there's a backtrace then that'll give a chance of figuring out what commit fixed it.