[00:41] <JontheEchidna> kde svn 936572
[00:41] <JontheEchidna> \o/ quicklaunch patch
[00:42] <vorian> YES!!
[00:42]  * vorian is still deleting rosetta emails
[00:43] <JontheEchidna> lol
[00:43] <JontheEchidna> so your karma should have like, doubled again right?
[00:43] <vorian> we'll see
[00:44] <vorian> i only got 150,000 points from yesterdays fiasco
[00:44] <JontheEchidna> lol
[00:44] <JontheEchidna> holy shit, lol
[00:44]  * JontheEchidna stares at his measly 73,000
[00:45]  * vorian Karma:  494250
[00:45] <JontheEchidna> 3,000 of which is from translations
[00:45] <vorian> (which will all disappear as soon as they fix the bug)
[00:55] <JontheEchidna> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/kdebase-workspace/ubuntu/revision/54
[00:56] <JontheEchidna> I just noticed that the last four patches in debian/patches/series are from me, lol
[01:21] <JontheEchidna> wow, usplash looks scary
[03:56] <ScottK> \o
[12:25] <a|wen> ScottK: du you have time to look at the changes I mage to kdebindings (jaunty)? ... it's in bzr
[12:26] <a|wen> JontheEchidna: another thing... can i have you testbuild kdeartwork from the experimental ppa in a pbuilder and see if it FTBFS or builds for you?
[12:29] <JontheEchidna> also if somebody could sponsor kdeadmin, kdebase-workspace-and perhaps kubuntu-default-settings for me, that'd be great :P
[12:30] <a|wen> JontheEchidna: i think we are short on core-devs atm ;)
[12:30]  * JontheEchidna needs to become a core-dev
[12:30] <JontheEchidna> lol, yeah
[12:31] <a|wen> JontheEchidna: i actually have a MOTU job for you in the meantime :) ... kile merged with debian/experimental http://awen.dk/packages/kile/
[12:32]  * JontheEchidna wonders if it's feature freeze compatible
[12:32]  * JontheEchidna realizes that we forgot to clear the last kile upload with motu-release, eep
[12:33] <a|wen> JontheEchidna: it's a 4 day newer svn checkout containing bugfixes only ... and i've kept the changes down (and the merge-diff a tiny bit bigger)
[12:34] <a|wen> JontheEchidna: so changes to recommends/suggests ... and an updated copyright
[12:36] <JontheEchidna> I think it might be best if we followed this process: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreezeExceptionProcess#FeatureFreeze for bug fix only updates (process agreed by motu-release)
[12:36] <JontheEchidna> and blah, that link got mutilated
[12:36] <JontheEchidna> anyhow, I'll take a look at your upload in the meanwhile
[12:38] <a|wen> yeah, you might be right
[13:00] <cryingtux> hello
[13:05] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: Probably later today.
[13:07] <cryingtux_> hi
[13:08] <cryingtux_> i want to talk to the person running http://apt.pearsoncomputing.net/
[13:08] <cryingtux_> does he come here?
[13:28] <devilsadvocate> cryingtux_, whats special about that repo (vs ubuntu main)
[13:33] <ScottK> cryingtux_: That person has been here once or twice but is not a Kubuntu developer.
[13:33] <ScottK> devilsadvocate: It's for KDE 3.5 on Intrepid.
[13:33] <devilsadvocate> oh
[13:34]  * devilsadvocate didnt notice
[13:34] <cryingtux_> devilsadvocate: he left this channel link on his website
[13:34] <cryingtux_> i have downloaded his iso but there is no username pw for it, so i cant login to it, wanted to ask him about that
[13:36] <cryingtux_> but i have sent him an email now
[13:38] <cryingtux_> meanwhile is it appropriate to ask here about "how to install fully working jwm on intrepid" ??
[13:38] <JontheEchidna> a|wen: list missing sez the following are missing:
[13:38] <JontheEchidna> -./usr/share/doc/kile/ChangeLog
[13:38] <JontheEchidna> -./usr/share/doc/kile/README.MacOSX
[13:40] <a|wen> JontheEchidna: that's because the changelog get's renamed to fit the debian policy for an upstream changelog ... and the MacOSX is really macosx specific
[13:41] <JontheEchidna> aah, good reasons
[13:41] <JontheEchidna> ok, looks great!
[13:43] <JontheEchidna> Just file the bug report documenting that we're uploading a bugfix release and I can sponsor
[13:43] <a|wen> okay... i'll do that
[13:50] <a|wen> JontheEchidna: bug 339531
[13:50] <JontheEchidna> cool
[13:50] <a|wen> JontheEchidna: do you mark it with LP: # in the changelog?
[13:51] <JontheEchidna> I can do that here
[13:51] <a|wen> perfect... thx a lot
[13:51] <JontheEchidna> yw
[13:54] <JontheEchidna> a|wen: uploaded
[13:54] <a|wen> thx!
[13:55] <a|wen> JontheEchidna: how did kdeartwork in jaunty go?
[13:55] <JontheEchidna> a|wen: what's in bzr built in my uni/multiverse-less pbuilder
[13:56] <a|wen> JontheEchidna: okay ... did you have to change anything?
[13:56] <JontheEchidna> I had to remove several screensaver .desktop files from kscreensaver.install
[13:56] <a|wen> okay
[14:05] <a|wen> JontheEchidna: are you any good with cmake? 'cause kdeartwork on intrepid is just strange
[14:06] <JontheEchidna> like, with working with a CMakeLists.txt file?
[14:06] <a|wen> maybe ... i have no idea what goes wrong here
[14:07] <JontheEchidna> not really :(
[14:08] <a|wen> okay ... in my pbuilder the last find_file() in http://awen.dk/temp/CMakeLists.txt finds files that isn't there, and i have no idea why
[14:09] <JontheEchidna> weird
[14:10] <a|wen> see that was also what i thought
[14:11] <a|wen> i removed a commented-out line in that cmake, so it would spit out all files found ... and this is the result my http://awen.dk/temp/build.log
[14:12] <a|wen> my problem is at least /usr/share/xscreensaver/config/fliptext.xml ... i could verify that it wasn't in the chroot while it build; that freaked me out a bit
[14:12] <JontheEchidna> fliptest wasn't in jaunty either
[14:12] <JontheEchidna> nor was cwaves
[14:12] <JontheEchidna> but cmake correctly detected they werent there
[14:13] <a|wen> yeah ... and that makes things a bit easier
[14:13] <a|wen> in this case it does actually install the .desktop files
[14:15] <a|wen> the strange thing is that when it builds in the buildd cmake correctly detects that the *.xml files aren't there
[14:16] <JontheEchidna> tried a clean pbuilder w/o universe and multiverse sources.list entries?
[14:17] <JontheEchidna> maybe it's something funky with the current chroot
[14:17] <a|wen> i'm in the process of creating one ... just takes forever to debootstrap on a slow connection
[14:17] <JontheEchidna> yeah, I feel ya there
[14:18] <a|wen> "funky chroot" <-- new default explanation of build failures
[14:18] <JontheEchidna> lol
[15:50] <ghostcube> hi folks
[15:50] <ghostcube> hmm is powerdevil not anymore in intrepid kde 4.2.1
[15:51] <a|wen> ghostcube: it is
[15:51] <ghostcube> hmm if i try to install i get libplasma2 inst going to be installed
[15:51] <ghostcube> maybe wrong dependency
[15:52] <ScottK> ghostcube: Don't install the separate package.  It's part of kdebase-workspace in 4.2
[15:53] <ghostcube> hmm how can i get the icon for it back to taskbar to switch cpu and profiles
[15:53] <ghostcube> oO
[15:54] <a|wen> ghostcube: add the "battery manager" widget
[15:54] <ghostcube> ah ok i see
[15:57] <ghostcube> before it was better :)
[15:58] <ScottK> I'm not a huge fan of the battery manager widget.  It takes up way to much space to start with.
[15:58] <ghostcube> you cant see the cpu speed the old icon showed this so nice :)
[16:03] <a|wen> at least on a small screen it is all to big
[16:14] <ghostcube> ok guys xu
[16:14] <ghostcube> cu
[16:57] <_Sime> a|wen: what is the status of the pykdeuic problem?
[16:57] <_Sime> a|wen: it looks like I've got some "unscrewing up" to do...
[16:58] <a|wen> _Sime: fix uploaded to bzr in jaunty; i'm waiting for a core-dev to sponsor... and then it needs backporting
[16:59] <_Sime> a|wen: was the fix to just restore the kde.py file?
[16:59] <a|wen> _Sime: restore and install it, jup
[17:01] <_Sime> a|wen: there is a chance that it will break pykdeuic4, but it should fix the printer thingy.
[17:02] <a|wen> _Sime: uh, great ... break one or the other
[17:02] <_Sime> a "chance"
[17:02] <_Sime> I'll look into it now...
[17:04] <a|wen> _Sime: you mean that simply having kde4.py there would break pykdeuic4?
[17:05] <_Sime> a|wen: possibly.
[17:05] <a|wen> _Sime: do we have something with which we can test that?
[17:06] <a|wen> i have a test-build done ... so can play around with it in a chroot in ~5 mins
[17:26] <ScottK> a|wen: Do you know yet if the kdebindings upload is OK?
[17:27] <a|wen> ScottK: see my discussion with _Sime ^^ ... i've tried a few apps until now none of them failed
[17:28] <ScottK> a|wen: Right.  Saw the discussion, so I wanted to see if you'd reached a conclusion.
[17:34] <a|wen> can't find anything in particular that seems to break ... would hope that _Sime had a good example of one that might do it if my assumptions were wrong
[17:45] <ScottK> Test building here now, so there's a while yet to figure it out if I should stop.
[17:49] <a|wen> okay, nice to know
[17:57] <claydoh> ScottK:  ok, as alpha 6 nears, what changes will there be?
[17:57]  * claydoh will get a head start on the wiki page this time :)
[17:57] <ScottK> claydoh: Qt 4.5 and KDE 4.2.1 are the big ones.
[18:00] <claydoh> kpackagekit as well
[18:01] <claydoh> which iice btws n
[18:01] <claydoh> which is nice btw
[18:07] <a|wen> ScottK: tested most of the rdepends now, haven't been able to break anything by adding kde4.py ... i still have a feeling it might be removed in error, since it is still referenced in the 4.2.1 documentation
[18:10] <ScottK> a|wen: Sounds good.  Thanks.
[18:14] <a|wen> ScottK: when(/if) this get done i think we should backport it to the experimental-ppa; and there is a bugfix in kdebase we might want to backport as well... do we do that? and am I able to do it if i want that?
[18:14] <ScottK> Yes and Yes.
[18:15] <a|wen> okay, good ... then that might be fun for tomorrow then
[18:19] <cumulus007> does kubuntu have a LTS version?
[18:21] <ScottK> cumulus007: Dapper was LTS, but that was the last one.
[18:21] <cumulus007> and why ?
[18:22] <ScottK> When Hardy was released it was not considered supportable for 3 years.
[18:22] <cumulus007> because of the KDE 4 migration?
[18:23] <ScottK> Mainly.
[18:23] <ScottK> Also the KDE3 X windows tools don't work very well with the x-server shipped in Hardy as they had been pretty unmaintained.
[18:24] <ScottK> I wasn't in on the decision, so I can't tell you exactly what they were thinking.
[18:24] <ScottK> But basically KDE3 is dead.
[18:24] <smarter> what's the procedure to backport a fix to kubuntu-default-settings?
[18:25] <ScottK> smarter: Is this for kubuntu-experimental or for intrepid-backports?
[18:26] <smarter> it's 4.2 related
[18:26] <smarter> so -experimental I assume
[18:26] <smarter> see my last commit to kubuntu-default-settings branch
[18:26] <smarter> asked by upstream
[18:26] <ScottK> Then you can upload a new k-d-s to k-e.
[18:26] <smarter> okay
[18:28] <lex79> ScottK: can you tell Anthony to open a FFE before to upload a new release packages? or at least look first in Launchpad? :)
[18:29] <ScottK> lex79: I can talk to him about it.  What packages?
[18:29]  * smarter assumes lex79 referes to k3b
[18:29] <smarter> *refers
[18:30] <lex79> kblogger and filelight, sorry but I don't like this :)
[18:30] <lex79> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kblogger-kde4/+bug/334690
[18:30] <lex79> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/filelight/+bug/335031
[18:31] <lex79> now I want open a FFe for kopete thinklight
[18:32] <lex79> smarter: k3b?
[18:33] <smarter> a new upstream svn snapshot got uploaded recently
[18:33] <smarter> but maybe it went throught FFe, didn't look at it
[18:35] <lex79> smarter: ok
[18:35] <lex79> anyone can upload this https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qt-creator/+bug/337343 ?
[18:40] <ScottK> I know he talked to Riddell about k3b.
[18:43] <nhandler> lex79: The debdiff does more than just change the icon
[18:44] <lex79> nhandler: yes, I used desktop-file-validate to fix warnings and errors
[18:48] <nhandler> lex79: I know that, but you failed to mention that in the changelog
[18:49] <nhandler> lex79: Just out of curiosity, what was d-f-v complaining about in the Mimetype field?
[18:54] <lex79> nhandler: http://paste.ubuntu.com/128433/
[18:54] <lex79> duplicate text/x-c++src;
[18:54] <lex79> in mimetype field
[18:55] <nhandler> Ah, thanks lex79.
[18:57] <lex79> nhandler: you're welcome, in the changelog I have to write in detail all the changes that I do in .desktop ?
[19:00] <nhandler> lex79: No, but you should mention that you modified the .desktop file to validate with desktop-file-validate. Currently, it looks like you just fixed a missing icon
[19:00] <lex79> ok
[19:02] <nhandler> lex79: You should also send your patch upstream to Debian
[19:02] <nhandler> lex79: Ignore that, I'm mixing up patches ;)
[19:03] <lex79> ok :D
[19:09] <ScottK> a|wen: kdebindings uploaded.  Thank you for your contribution to Kubuntu.
[19:10] <a|wen> ScottK: thx ... backport of it is now added for my todo-list for tomorrow
[19:10] <jjesse> rebuilding my laptop as a main intrepid box, who has the ppa for quasell?
[19:11] <ScottK> a|wen: Excellent.
[19:11] <ScottK> jjesse: It's in intrepid-backports.
[19:11] <jjesse> hrmm ok
[19:12] <jjesse> and powerdevil is the battery applet correct?
[19:12] <a|wen> jjesse: are you using kde4.2(.1) ?
[19:12] <ScottK> The batter applet is the thing for powerdevil.
[19:13] <ScottK> battery....
[19:13] <ScottK> Powerdevil is there whether  or not you add the widget.
[19:14] <smarter> ScottK: there is a plasmoid for powerdevil?
[19:14] <ScottK> The battery one is the only one I know of.
[19:17] <a|wen> it's the only one we ship at least
[19:39] <hunger> Any idea why kdeadmin is not installable anymore in jaunty?
[19:39] <hunger> s/installable/upgradeable/
[19:39] <a|wen> uh oh, that helped a bit ... just got >2.5GB space by cleaning a bit in my development dir
[19:39] <a|wen> hunger: amd64? ;(
[19:39] <a|wen> ;)
[19:40] <hunger> a|wen: Yeap.
[19:40] <hunger> Stuff failed to build?
[19:40] <a|wen> not built yet (failed to build)
[19:41] <hunger> Ah, thanks for the explaination!
[19:43] <a|wen> ScottK: ^^ kdeadmin failed on amd64; i think this is due to bindings pulling in python2.5 ...might want to retry kdeadmin when it is built
[19:43] <ScottK> a|wen: Thanks.
[19:55] <lex79> nhandler: Fix debian/qtcreator.desktop for missing icon (LP: #337343) and modified it to validate with desktop-file-validate
[19:55] <lex79> is it ok?
[19:56] <txwikinger> hi folks
[19:57] <Quintasan> txwikinger: ji
[19:57] <Quintasan> hi*
[19:57] <txwikinger> hi Quintasan
[20:02]  * txwikinger thinks it is wubi.exe time
[20:09] <nhandler> lex79: I normally do something like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/128460/, but what you have is fine
[20:09] <lex79> thanks
[20:10] <Mojo_risin> hi. my plasma is crashing on startup since my last update
[20:10] <txwikinger> Hi nhandler
[20:10] <Mojo_risin> i heard in #kde that it's a known issue in kubuntu
[20:11] <Mojo_risin> the backtrace it produces is invalid, how can i investigate this further?
[20:11] <Mojo_risin> kubuntu 8.10
[20:13] <Mojo_risin> any help appreciated since this makes my desktop unusable
[20:17] <Mojo_risin> (I already tried the #kubuntu channel)
[20:22] <a|wen> JontheEchidna: new fresh main-only intrepid pbuilder ... and cmake keeps seeing files that isn't there; this is no fun :(
[20:23] <txwikinger> Mojo_risin: install the dbg package for the software in problem
[20:24] <vorian> afternoon
[20:31] <nhandler> Hey vorian
[20:46] <jjesse> hello vorian
[21:02] <ryanakca> jjesse: ping, would you happen to know the status of help.kubuntu.org ?
[21:14] <jjesse> ryanakca: pong, i haven't heard anything, i've been pretty muhc out of the loop on things this cycle, trying to get back in
[21:14] <ryanakca> jjesse: *nod*, thanks, same here...
[21:16] <ryanakca> nixternal: ping, would you happen to know the status of help.kubuntu.org ?
[21:35] <nixternal> ryanakca: don't know the status at all....been busy working on a project and trying to get the docs up to date....we should look into all of this once Riddell returns from his current trip and has a few moments to discuss how it should be
[22:21] <ScottK-desktop> Tonio_: I noticed you uploaded a ~ppa k3b for KDE4 to the official archive.  Was that on purpose?
[22:21] <Tonio_> ScottK: ouch...
[22:22] <ScottK-desktop> 1.0.5+kde4svn935857-0ubuntu1~ppa1
[22:22] <Tonio_> ScottK: looks like ubuntu went back to default on my dput config.... that's bad...
[22:23] <ScottK-desktop> Tonio_: I do recommend leaving the default set to a non-existant target so you have to say where you want it to go every time ...
[22:23] <Tonio_> ScottK-desktop: makes sense indeed.... I'll do that
[22:24] <Tonio_> ScottK-desktop: basically what should we do now ? is there a way to switch back to the previous upload ?
[22:24] <ScottK-desktop> Tonio_: You'd have to upload a 'new' upstream version something like 1.0.5+kde4svn935857+really1.0.5
[22:25] <Tonio_> yep doing that now...
[22:26] <Tonio_> and changing my dput.cf file....
[22:26] <Tonio_> ScottK-desktop: thanks for noticing....
[22:27] <ryanakca> nixternal: okies
[22:32] <Tonio_> ScottK-desktop: well in this case the problem was due to my bash history :)
[22:32] <Tonio_> ctrl + R + "debui" + tab + enter
[22:33] <Tonio_> that combinason can also be dangerous :)
[22:33] <ScottK-desktop> Yep.
[22:34] <Tonio_> ScottK-desktop: reuploaded kde3 version... one again thanks :)
[22:37] <FireRabbit> JontheEchidna: im sorry to be a pain but the kdebindings package in the ppa for intrepid is still messed up... do you think you'll have time to fix that quickly soon?
[22:49] <ScottK> FireRabbit: We just uploaded a new kdebindings to Jaunty today.  A new PPA upload is expected to follow tomorrow.
[22:51] <FireRabbit> okay thanks
[22:53] <a|wen> FireRabbit: anything in particular that is "messed up"?
[22:55] <a|wen> just to know if you've found something new
[22:58] <FireRabbit> a|wen: the qyoto packages are empty
[22:58] <FireRabbit> they were supposed to have been removed for intrepid
[23:01] <a|wen> FireRabbit: yeah, I see ... i'll take that with me in the batch
[23:06] <FireRabbit> ok thanks. JontheEchidna had a patch to fix it up btw
[23:07] <a|wen> to get .NET building again ... or to get rid of the packages?
[23:07] <a|wen> FireRabbit: ^
[23:07] <FireRabbit> to get rid of them. they arent going to work on intrepid due to the version of mono
[23:08] <a|wen> ahh, that should be simple enough ... the other option was more fun, he
[23:09] <a|wen> kde4binding testbuilding away now ... i'll go to sleep in the meantime
[23:09] <FireRabbit> i dont think its worth it. i've got it working on my PPA along with a newer version of mono.
[23:09] <a|wen> not worth it then, no
[23:18] <tsdgeos> is there a known plasma crash on startup in 4.2.1 package or i just hit a "valid" bu
[23:18] <tsdgeos> +g
[23:30] <ScottK> tsdgeos: If you can get a good backtrace it's definitely worth filing a bug.
[23:30] <tsdgeos> ScottK: seems already fixed at least on trunk
[23:31] <ScottK> If there's a backtrace then that'll give a chance of figuring out what commit fixed it.