[00:00] any hackers here? [00:00] goofey: on ubuntu is raid1 or raid5 easier?? [00:00] no, the hackers all hang out in #hacjers [00:00] no, the hackers all hang out in #hackers [00:00] goofey: to setup i mean? [00:00] attilacyilmazlar: should be about the same [00:01] goofey: thank you for answers :) [00:02] attilacyilmazlar: anytime [00:04] but theres almost no hackers in #hackers [00:04] do you know how i can get invited to #hacker [00:04] lol [00:05] dude, restructure your question. asking for a hacker makes no sense [00:05] what is a hacker? [00:06] im not going to respond to that [00:06] itsatrick: deleting the icon doesn;t work, because it's conflicting with the application that installed the icon, not the icon itself === matrixhomie is now known as matrixhomie_ === matrixhomie_ is now known as matrixhomie [00:09] matrixhomie, its offtopic here [00:11] I want to make a launch feedback that spins (rotates) instead of bounces... what do I need to learn specifically to be able to make this? [00:13] I also tried uninstalling kde4-icons-oxygen, but that would have uninstalled my entire system. [00:13] josh-l: I would guess that's written in C - the folks in #kde would probabably know that === maria is now known as ^SwEEtY^ [00:13] yeah the3y\\y apprently do not [00:14] josh-l: well, they wrote it, not the kubuntu folks (I think) - you could check out the kde CVS [00:14] itsatrick: which kde? 3 or 4? And you installed it but it didn't install koffice? [00:14] yeah im sure kde devs wrote and not kubuntu devs' [00:16] KDE 4. Right. I have KDE 4 installed, but Koffice isn't installed. [00:17] so instaq [00:17] OO.org is buggy with plasmoids, so I don't want to do that. [00:17] ll it [00:18] i mean, install it [00:18] itsatrick: i'm booting jaunty to see if it came with koffice [00:19] i dont get what the issue is, if its not installed, then install it [00:19] itsatrick: which version of kubuntu do you have? [00:19] josh-l: it's conflicting with something already installed [00:20] what is it conflicting with? [00:20] Intrepid. [00:20] itsatrick: is it kubuntu or ubuntu with kde installed? [00:21] im pretty sure none of the releases come with koffice installed [00:21] koffice-data-kde4_1 is trying to override kde-icons-oxygen. [00:21] josh-l: yeah, I just found that out - jaunty comes with openoffice, not koffice [00:22] It's Ubuntu with KDE installed, but Gnome removed. [00:22] Jaunty is only in beta, right? [00:22] try installing koffice anyways, then if necessary install kde-icons-oxygen after [00:23] itsatrick: jaunty is beta [00:23] alpha5 [00:23] Can anyone help me figure out why my display settings will not persist past a reboot or x restart? [00:23] itsatrick: itsatrick I'm afraid i dn;t know how to solve your problem [00:23] itsatrick: er, don't [00:24] its not going to cause any real issues if oxygen icons get uninnstalled [00:24] and if yoyu want them just try installing after installing koffice [00:24] josh-l: Then how com I saw that a bunch of important pacakges would be uninstalled like libkde4 and such. [00:24] *come* [00:25] Does OxygenOffice work well in KDE4? [00:26] okay then i dont know [00:26] itsatrick: i wonder if there's a way to in-install kde4-icons-oxygen without un-installing all the other packages? [00:26] itsatrick: an apt-get --ignore-depends flag maybe? [00:29] recently, in kubuntu 8.10, using kde4.2, my screen starting locking after the monitor idles, requiring a password to unlock it. to my knowledge, i have never configured it to do this, and i cannot for the life of me figure out how to make it stop. i do NOT have 'lock screen on resume' selected in the settings. can anyone tell me how to fix this? [00:32] Sorry, --ingore-depends is not a valid flag. [00:33] hey guys, im on ubuntu intrepid i wanted to install kde 4.2, cant find the repositories or update... any ideas ? [00:36] lucax: the instructions should be right on: http://www.kubuntu.org/ [00:37] yeah but tehy say packages are on backports and i just did an update and im still with 4.1 [00:37] lucax, enable backports [00:38] lucax, lets see your sources.list (guessing you updated them already once adding repo) [00:38] no problem for some reason there was the problem solve it thanks [00:39] lucax, sudo apt-get update fixed it? [00:40] can anyone tell me how to stop the screen from locking, and requesting a password to unlock it, whenever the PC has idled for a time? [00:40] this is in kde4.2 [00:41] not some screensaver setting? this is in intrepid corrrect? [00:42] yes, it is in intrepid...i am just using 'blank screen' for the screensaver, and see no lock screen setting there [00:42] hmm let me check mine [00:44] can anyone help with a sata hdd? [00:44] in system settings desktop screensaver is require password to stop checked [00:44] NotForResale-US, need an actual question [00:45] bazhang, no, it is not checked [00:48] can i use a ide jumper to jump the 1.5gb speed limit on a sata drive [00:49] NotForResale-US, this sounds like a question for ##hardware [00:51] jmichaelx, not sure where else to look frankly; I am on 4.1 , dont know what systems settings control panel looks like in 4.2 (ie if it differs or not) could well be a bug [00:56] ty bazhang, i have no idea what to do about this... pretty annoying [00:57] jmichaelx, let me check launchpad [00:59] in KDE4 I've found a couple of programs (Dragon Player, Kuickshow) that do not have any menus ith them - how do you go about editing preferences for apps like this? [01:01] i have been wondering why in the world dragon player is even included.... [01:01] Wazmyn, best I can is dragonplayer has a menu that leads to the dragonplayer handbook; it is a very minimalist player from what I have tried [01:01] Wazmyn: What do you mean "editing preferences"? If you want to add a menu item, then use the menu editor. [01:02] jmichaelx: well, kaffiein won't play the videos off of my camera and dragon player will === Andry_Work is now known as Andry_sleeps [01:02] bazhang: where is the menu that leads to the hand book? [01:03] Wazmyn, far right menu, next to settings [01:03] woonix: specifically in kuickview I wanted to change the keyboard short cuts - page up and down advance the picutres I want to use right and left [01:03] bazhang: my window has nothing. It's just a floating picture window with the title bar at the top [01:03] Wazmyn: interesting to hear. that is the first useful thing that i have heard about that dragon player could do [01:03] jmichaelx: I'm on 4.2 with a desktop and laptop. I don't have that issue and I don't mind going over configurations with you. [01:04] jmichaelx: HA! [01:04] anyone have anything interesting they would like to send me? [01:04] hey draik_, what's up? [01:04] c0rrupted: like what? [01:05] draik_: yeah, if you have any idea why this screen locking business is going on and how to stop it, i'd be appreciative [01:05] anything from porn to music to OS bootup iso's or anything really [01:05] jmichaelx: I may be able to help. What is going on with your Power Management in System Settings? [01:05] jmichaelx: BTW, is it on a desktop or laptop? [01:07] draik_: i also have kubuntu 8.10 on a desktop and a laptop, but it is only the desktop that is requiring a password to unlock the screen after it has idled... i have no idea what i would have done to cause this to start, nor how to make it stop. i have been through all the setting i can think of. [01:09] How do I get Dolphin to show previews of videos? [01:10] jmichaelx: I'm not sure where to begin other than Power Management settings for profile types. [01:10] Wazmyn: i do not think that dolphin has that capability yet [01:10] draik_: hmm, i think i have gone through all of that [01:11] jmichaelx: it did in 3.5 - why would it lose it? [01:11] Wazmyn: i was disappointed , too, but it did lose it. i imagine they will bring it back, but who knows when [01:12] * Wazmyn frowns [01:12] Wazmyn: i have been using Thunar when i want to view folders with video previews [01:12] c0rrupted, did you have a kubuntu support question? [01:13] no i didnt [01:13] hi [01:13] why wont k3b burn mp3's ? [01:13] i get "problems" when i drag and drop mp3s [01:14] fatblackpumpn: are you making a data cd? [01:14] nah, a music cd [01:14] fatblackpumpn, it will [01:14] ugh [01:15] so there is no way in linux, to burn music ? [01:15] i just wanna make a cd. [01:15] to listen to in the car. [01:15] fatblackpumpn: the issue is that it needs to decode mp3s [01:15] !w32codecs [01:15] medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org [01:15] ugh. [01:15] linux shit. [01:15] jmichaelx: what is thunar? [01:15] i installed w32codecs [01:15] fatblackpumpn = troll? [01:15] fatblackpumpn, stop with the language [01:15] maybe if you learned to program you would realise everything in linux is OPENSOURCE so you can fix it yourself [01:15] i installed w32codecs, how do i burn a cd ? [01:15] fatblackpumpn: I believe there is a package for k3b mp3 [01:16] ok [01:16] jmichaelx: I agree and I am still looking into various things here and I can't get it to duplicate that type of thing. [01:16] fatblackpumpn: sudo apt-get install libk3b2-mp3 [01:16] fatblackpumpn: then it should work === c0rrupted is now known as matrixhomie [01:16] Wazmyn: thunar is the default file manager in xfce... but i use it a lot in KDE, particularly ofr video previews, likw you mentioned [01:16] libk3b2-extracodecs ? [01:16] oh ok [01:16] thanx [01:16] I've never had a problem burning mp3s with k3b [01:17] dito [01:17] draik_: oh well, i'll just keep poking around until i figure something out [01:17] *ditto [01:17] Wazmyn: I have :-) [01:17] E: Package libk3b2-mp3 has no installation candidate [01:17] AHA! [01:18] is there any way to tell when the last dist-upgrade happened? i went to sleep one day with 7.10 and woke up the next with 8.04 and want to see if ive rebooted since (im sure i have but just to be sure) [01:18] jmichaelx: I think I may have it... [01:18] whats to add do sources.list to get libk3b2-mp3 ? [01:18] libk3b3-extracodecs [01:18] draik_: fire away [01:18] try libk3b3-extracodecs [01:18] ok [01:18] jmichaelx: Power Management > General Settings > Lock screen on resume [01:18] is there a way to make keyboard shortcuts work in kde4 (for example k-menu shortcut, run command, etc) with compiz enabled? [01:18] Make sure it isn't checked [01:18] * draik_ hopes that's the answser. [01:19] yay! it's working, thanx fellaz. [01:19] draik_: unfortunately, i was there , and made sure that one was not checked [01:20] jmichaelx: How about checking, save, uncheck, save? [01:20] Sounds funny, I know, but it works for me that way some times. [01:21] draik: i know what you mean, i have seen deals where that sort of thing has worked when nothing else did... i'll give a while here in a bit [01:21] i'll give it a whirl* [01:21] jmichaelx: Cool. [01:21] :) [01:24] hey ripio [01:24] ripio [01:24] jotoso [01:25] T_T [01:25] tt [01:27] !hi | cristian [01:27] cristian: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu! [01:28] what kind of name is cristian? [01:28] what are you religious or something? [01:28] !ot > fatblackpumpn [01:28] fatblackpumpn, please see my private message [01:28] oh sorry [01:29] fatblackpumpn: I am not sure if that was supposed to be humor, but it does not translate well on irc [01:29] does the software that is in kubuntus repos more state of the art or "recent" (as in newer), than in gentoo's ? [01:29] gentoo doesent seem to be cutting edge anymore. [01:30] fatblackpumpn, this is support; chat in #kubuntu-offtopic [01:30] it's a simple question. [01:30] its offtopic. [01:30] i have seen way more off topic stuff in here than that. [01:31] how is it off topic. i said the word kubuntu [01:31] fatblackpumpn = troll? [01:31] yep [01:31] nope [01:31] just asking a simple question. [01:31] oh well [01:31] anyone want to trade stuff? [01:31] matrixhomie, not here; this is not a warez channel [01:31] matrixhomie, this was pointed out to you earlier [01:32] fatblackpumpn: you're currently muted, they won't hear you. i'd like you to read the factoids i've had ubottu send you first. [01:33] !etiquette > matrixhomie (matrixhomie, see the private message from ubottu) | how about you do the same [01:37] ok i have a question, since you guys like to support. [01:37] when i ran kde 3.5 the pager had the windows icons on the "virtual desktop" [01:37] now they dont [01:37] running intrepid [01:37] i.e. if firefox was in the foreground for that "virtual desktop" the window on that pagers virtual desktop would have the firefox logo. [01:38] i found that to be convenient [01:40] you want icons to click on the desktop? === jerry_ is now known as Guest12889 [01:42] no not the desktop itself. the pager [01:43] i have 9 "virtual desktops" on my pager. [01:43] fatblackpumpn: i think i'd chalk that up to "stuff that hasn't got implimented in kde4 yet" [01:43] ahh theres a check box for that. [01:43] thanx [01:43] ok, nevermind [01:43] pager settings [01:43] window icons [01:44] now to bind key strokes to toggle between desktops [01:45] fatblackpumpn: ctr+F1, crt+F2.... [01:46] Wazmyn: is there a way to change those. id like to reassing the defaults to ctrl alt arrow [01:46] reassign [01:46] it'd be under system_settings [01:47] Wazmyn: yeah, im uder key board and mouse > key board short cuts, the only short cuts are for KMix [01:47] oh i have to select it, [01:47] but i still dont see the pager under the drop down [01:47] yeah, i went though that was well fatblackpumpn [01:47] oh they call the the plasma workspace [01:48] that' won't be under the pager [01:48] is there a kde4 equivalent to "dcop kicker kicker popupKMenu 0" [01:48] ? [01:48] nm plasma workspace is not the pager [01:48] I just installed a new version of 'linux-generic' - how do I install it for use? [01:49] MagicDuck: whta did that do? [01:49] it's not in /boot.... [01:49] pager is not under the list of kde componets under system settings's keyboard and mouse [01:49] GWild: it should be. what did you install, exactly? [01:50] fatblackpumpn: the shortcuts for desktops won't be in the pager - it'll be part of the global shortcuts or something [01:50] global shortcuts? [01:50] where are those? [01:50] jmichaelx: Any luck? [01:50] LjL: linux-generic in adept [01:50] fatblackpumpn: found it, it's under kwin [01:51] GWild: and how would it be a new version? or did you mean *upgrade* it? [01:51] Wazmyn: thanx pal. [01:52] LjL: actually upgrade yes. I'm trying to upgrade past 27-7 to avoid my chronic BusyBox boot error [01:52] draik: i've not yet been able to check... i am slowly trying to get an email written to my gf, which cost me dearly, if it doesn't get sent off fairly soon, lol [01:52] Wazym: it shows the K menu, I am using compiz so I wanna keybind it [01:52] which will* [01:53] GWild: you do realize that the linux-generic package itself doesn't contain anything, and that what really gets upgraded (usually automatically - what i don't get here is what you've done manually) is linux-image-whatever? [01:53] jmichaelx: Brave man to be doing something that grave at the last minute. [01:54] MagicDuck: oh. sorry I can't help ya there if you're uisng compiz. And if you want names to be highlighted, you need use the full nick [01:55] draik: some call it bravery, others call it 'dancing with suicide' [01:55] LjL: I'm probably not being clear - I'm from Gentoo and have never used a distro which was 'automatic' [01:55] well, homicide, in this case... sorry for the OT [01:55] jmichaelx: castration, really. [01:55] been testing out ArchLinux here lately :) [01:55] most likely, lol [01:56] GWild: ok how about you type "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" [01:56] Dr_willis_AAO: Oh yeah? How is it? [01:56] LjL: ok, I'll do that [01:57] LjL: dist-upgrade = 'uprade the installed distro'? [01:58] GWild: yes, to the latest versions of packages. you should do that regularly (except that you don't really have to because when there are updates, an icon shows up, and when you click on it, they get installed) [01:58] which is what i don't understand to begin with [01:58] you should be on the latest available kernel version *by default*, without doing anything but clicking on the auto-updates icon [01:59] that would splain it - I'm still reading/learning so I have not done that since I was not sure what it would do [01:59] skittish after Gentoo which could easily 'break' [02:00] GWild: within reason, updates here should not break things - they're tested before they go in the repos [02:00] GWild: there are always exceptions, but in general, that's the case [02:01] Wazmyn: Sounds good - a good reason to switch distros..... I appreciate the info [02:04] hiyas [02:12] ugh. Im trying to log into my kubuntu machine remotely through vnc, but the kde desktop sharing program asks my connecting client for a password, and I dont know what it is :|. Any help? === jeff__ is now known as Libertarian4life [02:13] Okay, is it better to use xrender or OpenGL with Linux, with KDE, etc? [02:14] !vnc [02:14] VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely. It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX [02:14] I am sure the bot knows the default vnc password [02:15] !ubottu [02:15] Hi! I'm #kubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots [02:15] !botsnack [02:15] Yum! Err, I mean, APT! [02:15] !botfart [02:15] Sorry, I don't know anything about botfart [02:15] !anything [02:15] So, you wanted to lure me into saying I don't know anything about anything? Yeah, that would be funny, of course. Now leave me alone. [02:15] it is on to me [02:16] !botisopenglorxrenderbetteronlinux [02:16] Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [02:16] !smoke [02:16] Sorry, I don't know anything about smoke [02:16] !poll [02:16] Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots. [02:17] !slap [02:17] Sorry, I don't know anything about slap [02:17] !botslap [02:17] Sorry, I don't know anything about botslap [02:17] !openGL [02:17] Sorry, I don't know anything about openGL [02:17] this is very !ot, but then again, no one here needs help [02:18] well is xrender or open GL better for linux.. or which is more geared to use linux to its potential [02:19] Libertarian4life: first of all, I like your name. Second, GL also works on other platforms [02:20] why not use the one that may one day have some comercial application? [02:20] anything you learn to do on linux you should try to make applicable to windows [02:20] * tekteen is not trying to start a flame war [02:23] 1) thank you :P 2) yea, but is is linux able to use one better over the other? === mike is now known as Guest4289 [02:23] is the http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-experimental/ubuntu/pool/main/k/kdepim/ktimetracker_4.2.0-0ubuntu1~intrepid3~ppa1_i386.deb site down [02:25] cant seem to ping it [02:26] hi [02:27] hi === adam is now known as Guest81597 [02:39] FFS why is the KDE4 version in 8.10 so poopo? [02:39] is there a manual for this IRC client? [02:39] Guest81597: What IRC client? [02:39] this one... [02:39] someone having problems with kopete [02:39] man kopete [02:39] Yeah [02:40] well this is an IRC client is it not [02:40] ? [02:40] Guest81597: You're using Konversation [02:40] (03:03:22) Guest81597: (notice) Received CTCP 'VERSION Konversation 1.0.1 (C) 2002-2006 by the Konversation team' (to Samuel-NotAFK) from Guest81597 [02:40] but i am having problems with kopete too :) [02:41] Guest81597: wlm? [02:41] wlm? [02:41] * Samuel-NotAFK is listening to The B52's - Love shack [02:41] WINDOWS LIVE SHITTTT MESSENGER [02:41] oops caps [02:42] FYI, i am more of a Windows Vista person so this Kubuntu thing is kinda new to me, although i LOVE some of its features [02:42] and i do not think there is a reason to swear... [02:42] problems using WLM protocol on kopete <.< [02:42] Yes i am [02:42] it crashes when it tries to connect [02:42] is that common [02:43] first try? [02:43] since you semed to know what is was right away [02:43] yes [02:43] no clue >.< [02:43] here just doesnt connect [02:43] if i am with other client it go out of msn due to another client trying to join [02:43] Guest81597: There is always reason to swear. [02:43] and if i put a bad password it return errors [02:44] but if i put it right, it just stays on connecting forever [02:44] let me try again [02:46] crashed... twice === draik__ is now known as draik_ === adam is now known as Guest41836 [03:03] I need some help with kopete... === Guest41836 is now known as adam_ === adam_ is now known as adam__ === adam__ is now known as adam_ [03:05] Can I get some help with kopete? === adam_ is now known as Guest27054 [03:06] love the immediate response.... [03:07] hmm 296 people and no one knows anything... see you later (you never leave)... [03:09] Im having problems installing Mozilla. I go to the site, down load it, but im unable to install it (it opens with ark, but doesnt install, just shows files) [03:10] any ideas on how to fix it? [03:13] ¿¿¿¿¿ [03:27] Is it possible to give a network card two IP addresses in Kubuntu? [03:27] I need to access a different network (192.168.1.0) [03:29] I'm looking forward to 9.04 [03:29] 8.10 and 8.04 had shit support for my EeePC [03:29] Debian has poor support [03:30] Hopefully 9.04 will fully support my EeePC [03:30] I'm looking forward to KDE4 too [03:30] I hope I can find my USB drive. [03:30] FFS it's a really good 8GB one too [03:30] hi [03:30] I'll look for it tomorrow. [03:30] bye [03:31] is DaSkreech still here [03:32] Can someone help me with a corrupt login? [03:35] oi === kurumin is now known as Paulo [03:35] oi [03:38] oi [03:38] :( [03:38] * PodeCoet fucks off appropriately [03:49] The auth.log does not log my activity, ideas why? [03:59] hi === adam is now known as Guest46874 === Guest46874 is now known as Adam_Tech [04:08] Who here could help me with the Adept Manager? [04:10] umm Hello?? [04:10] I also need help with Konqueror [04:11] dklsajf [04:11] any body [04:11] lol like noone is here [04:11] great [04:12] even though there must be over 250 people here, no one is listening [04:12] :\ [04:12] what is your problem with knokor? [04:12] Hello all I have a question concerning adept [04:12] Me too [04:12] I get this error msg [04:12] konquer [04:12] dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/updates/0059' near line 1: [04:12] EOF after field name `' [04:12] I need more help with adept [04:12] than konqueror [04:13] adept always will (BREAK) when i request install [04:13] on like 98% everything i want to install, and the ones that show no error, fail when i try to apply changes [04:16] can you help? [04:23] #runescape [04:23] dang it [04:26] so, i managed to score a second video card and have an extra monitor around... and to no surprise, after installing the nvidia drivers, xorg did not like the setup, said no screens, can someone point me to a nice guide to resetup xorg with 2 cards and 2 monitors? [04:32] anyone? [04:34] !xorg [04:34] The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution [04:34] can someone help me with adept?? [04:35] what is your question? [04:37] ok, When I go to request install, it will say (BREAK) install in red, and when it is green and says install, it says it broke when i try to apply changes [04:38] the new pakages you are trying to install do not like the programs already on your system [04:38] what says break? [04:38] firefox 3.0 [04:38] thats the only big one i really want [04:39] what are you trying to install? [04:40] firefox 3.0 [04:41] do you have firefox 2.x already on the system? [04:42] no [04:42] only konquer [04:43] those 2 shuld not have a problem.... [04:43] what if toy tried to use the command line? [04:43] tried* [04:44] i have read about using sudo adept --configure -a [04:44] but nothing happened [04:44] and yea i tried the terminal [04:44]