| ripps | Is it possible to have multiple bind-mounts in pbuilder? | 01:12 |
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| james_w | ripps: I believe so | 01:16 |
| ripps | james_w: whenever I try to add a second path using : or | it glitches out on me. | 01:17 |
| james_w | --bindmounts bind-mount-points | 01:17 |
| james_w | Bind-mount the specified directories to inside the chroot. bind-mount-points is a space-delimited list of directories to bind-mount. | 01:17 |
| ripps | james_w: I'm trying put this all in my .pbuilderrc using the BINDMOUNTS variable. I need it for ccache and for parsing my result directory for packages. | 01:20 |
| james_w | have you tried: | 01:20 |
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| james_w | BINDMOUNTS="foo bar" | 01:20 |
| ripps | ... I think that might be the only thing I haven't tried. | 01:20 |
| ripps | Man... now I feel real stupid. | 01:24 |
| ripps | Hmmm... the script sees the package in /var/cache/pbuilder/result, but it won't allow it to be pulled in by depends... | 01:29 |
| james_w | pbuilder doesn't make the results available to subsequent builds | 01:30 |
| james_w | http://paste.ubuntu.com/128031/ is what I use to make it do that, with an appropriate bind mount | 01:31 |
| ripps | james_w: I know, that's why I setup a script to dpkg-scanpackages the results directory. | 01:31 |
| ripps | James_w: cool your script worked | 01:40 |
| james_w | ripps: glad to hear it | 01:40 |
| ripps | but i keep getting this when I try to compile gmpc from git: http://paste.ubuntu.com/128035/ | 01:40 |
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| jdong | anyone know what larry wall called the "{}"? | 03:19 |
| jdong | I had a name for it I won't say in here, but I was told Larry's was even more amusing. | 03:20 |
| jdong | google's no good at searching symbols. | 03:20 |
| ScottK | james_w: I saw your post on the new source package formats on debian-devel. Do you know if Launchpad is ready for the new formats? | 03:58 |
| wgrant | It's not. | 03:59 |
| wgrant | But two people have asked about it in the past 24 hours. | 04:00 |
| wgrant | And there is a bug, with Low priority. | 04:00 |
| wgrant | And untargetted. | 04:00 |
| ScottK | Lovely. | 04:01 |
| * ScottK guesses the priority will change after the first Karmic autosync run. | 04:01 | |
| wgrant | Or after a distroteam person pokes them. | 04:01 |
| wgrant | Or after seeing james_w's comment in the bug. | 04:01 |
| wgrant | I'm hoping the last. | 04:02 |
| ScottK | What bug? | 04:02 |
| wgrant | Bug #293106 | 04:02 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 293106 in soyuz "does not support debian v3 source formats" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/293106 | 04:02 |
| ScottK | Thanks. | 04:02 |
| wgrant | The patches to dak weren't too extensive, so it shouldn't take too long to implement it in Soyuz. | 04:03 |
| harrisony | whats the process of gettign a package replaced in ubuntu. tspc is no longer maintained and gw6c is the new package, ive filed a bug report. is there anything special I need to do to it | 04:09 |
| harrisony | https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tspc/+bug/339405 | 04:09 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 339405 in tspc "replace tspc with gw6c" [Undecided,New] | 04:09 |
| ScottK | harrisony: Is the new package in Debian? | 04:26 |
| harrisony | ScottK: no | 04:28 |
| ScottK | To get it done will take someone to make the new package. | 04:28 |
| ScottK | Also it'd take a freeze exception to get it in late in the development cycle where we are now. | 04:29 |
| ScottK | If the old one is not working, then that ought to be doable if someone makes the package. | 04:29 |
| harrisony | I see | 04:32 |
| harrisony | ScottK: if I was to make the package would I push it to REVU? | 04:54 |
| ScottK | Yes | 04:54 |
| harrisony | cool | 04:55 |
| J-_ | I'd like to put a request in. Could someone please, update the Wings3d version in the repos to 0.99.04a, or 0.99.53? | 05:14 |
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| james_w | ScottK: that's why I went to make sure the soyuz people were aware of the developments | 06:52 |
| drewmeigs1 | hi, everyone. would anyone be willing to help me get started with the motu? i have limited experience, but am willing to learn and am a fast learner. | 07:04 |
| hyperair | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/GettingStarted | 07:18 |
| iulian | Hmm, nice playbook. | 07:21 |
| jdong | WELL. | 08:08 |
| jdong | I think I found a bug in the timer applet. | 08:08 |
| jdong | I don't think an hour quite elapsed there... :) | 08:09 |
| siretart | LucidFox: superm1: are you still interested in joining ~motumedia? | 09:56 |
| LucidFox | sure | 10:10 |
| surfaz | tseliot, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-options-editor-gtk/+bug/339220 | 10:58 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 339220 in xorg-options-editor-gtk "xorg-options-editor-gtk isn't installable" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 10:58 |
| surfaz | any news? | 10:58 |
| tseliot | surfaz: yes, it works well, thanks for the patch. I'll ask someone to upload it (as I'm not a motu yet) | 11:03 |
| surfaz | tseliot, I made also a Spanish translation | 11:04 |
| surfaz | bobbo, want know if you accept this translation | 11:04 |
| tseliot | surfaz: yes, and I was planning to add that too for the new upload | 11:04 |
| surfaz | ok, thanks! | 11:05 |
| tseliot | thank you ;) | 11:05 |
| G__81 | I am interested in contributing to ubuntu. I have been using Linux for a pretty long time . I am interested in bug fixing and other activities but ve not done packaging | 11:28 |
| G__81 | so can someone help me get started | 11:28 |
| hyperair | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/GettingStarted | 11:28 |
| directhex | start off looking at how to get bug fixes into packages, imho | 11:28 |
| G__81 | i probably would like to get started with Packaging a little later on | 11:28 |
| hyperair | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide | 11:29 |
| surfaz | G__81, http://www.ubuntu.com/community/participate | 11:29 |
| hyperair | join a loco team =p | 11:29 |
| G__81 | i ve been contributing to fedora though fedora is really good with great respects and values i thought i could start contributing to Ubuntu from now on | 11:29 |
| hyperair | why the change of heart? | 11:29 |
| G__81 | hyperair, yeah good question | 11:30 |
| surfaz | KDE4? (Linus) | 11:30 |
| G__81 | no i use gnome :) | 11:30 |
| G__81 | i tried KDE4 but went to gnome :) | 11:30 |
| G__81 | hyperair, what i like about Ubuntu is that when people contribute in Ubuntu, its recognized | 11:31 |
| hyperair | i started with gnome, tried kde3, went back to gnome, tried fluxbox, and e17, then went back to gnome. then i tried kde4, and then went back to gnome. | 11:31 |
| hyperair | looks like gnome's the best for me =D | 11:31 |
| hyperair | G__81: it is? | 11:31 |
| G__81 | hyperair, and its a really good thing and apart from it as a distro what i like i feel Ubuntu is quite stable that is fedora is a bleeding edge distro yesterday updated a package and i dont know what happened | 11:31 |
| hyperair | G__81: i mean it isn't with fedora? | 11:31 |
| G__81 | i got screwed up | 11:31 |
| G__81 | hyperair, you mean recognition ? | 11:32 |
| hyperair | G__81: yes | 11:32 |
| G__81 | hyperair, its there if you take i ve my blog in Fedora and ve account too in Fedora Server but its not been advertised as what Ubuntu does thats from a process angle i am talking about. | 11:32 |
| G__81 | hyperair, as a distro Fedora is good as well as bad if you are not lucky a particular day probably couple of days back i just updated one package and gone | 11:33 |
| G__81 | with great difficulty i backed up the data and then had to reinstall it | 11:33 |
| G__81 | X Server was flickering continuously no errors in X logs | 11:33 |
| G__81 | so i was surprised and didnt know what to do | 11:33 |
| G__81 | i work on the kernel and as well contribute to Quagga a lot so i thought moving to Ubuntu would hinder my development | 11:34 |
| G__81 | thats the question i ve | 11:34 |
| G__81 | currently | 11:34 |
| hyperair | well we try not to have those happen here, but if you use ubuntu+1 it's bound to happen | 11:34 |
| G__81 | if its off topic please execuse me | 11:34 |
| G__81 | yeah thats acceptable :) | 11:35 |
| hyperair | =) | 11:35 |
| G__81 | Ubuntu + 1 is acceptable :) | 11:35 |
| hyperair | it's probably not my place to say this, but welcome to ubuntu =p | 11:35 |
| G__81 | thanks hyperair :) | 11:35 |
| G__81 | hyperair, will it hinder the development as such ? | 11:35 |
| G__81 | i contribute to quagga and i use UML and qemu in fedora to do it | 11:36 |
| hyperair | G__81: nah. shouldn't | 11:36 |
| hyperair | G__81: i use ubuntu as a platform to develop on. i think stability goes a long way in boosting productivity. | 11:36 |
| hyperair | i have no idea what UML is, but qemu definitely works over here | 11:37 |
| G__81 | so i am concerned about those things in Ubuntu, I use a Fedora 8 file system but in Ubuntu i heard that when you create a Ubuntu File system using debootstrap the file system gets created but when i boot it with UML, my friend got 6 virtual consoles automatically being opened and all of them were login windows and finally he had to suppress 5 virtual console terminals from being opened so he fiddled with some etc/blah...and finally made that but still he | 11:38 |
| G__81 | gets 6 but 5 disabled and one showing the login prompt | 11:38 |
| G__81 | :) | 11:38 |
| hyperair | well. i have no experience with UML | 11:41 |
| hyperair | usermode linux right? | 11:41 |
| hyperair | never attempted it before | 11:41 |
| pmjdebruijn | it UML relevant for normal use anymore? with openvz/vserver/lxc? | 11:45 |
| G__81 | yeah its User Mode Linux | 11:45 |
| pmjdebruijn | it seems UML is only relevant for kernel developers these days... | 11:45 |
| G__81 | hyperair, yeah exactly i use it because i work on the kernel for office work though i am not a kernel developer listed in kernel.org :) | 11:46 |
| G__81 | hyperair, and the most important fact is after fedora got corrupted i had to reinstall fedora which again took another 1 hr and then came the worst thing i had to download the updates using yum again | 11:47 |
| G__81 | i missed aptonCD and hence i joined Packagekit and now i am in the process of writing a plugin kind of thing for Packagekit which imitates AptOnCD | 11:47 |
| * hyperair doesn't like yum/rpm | 11:48 | |
| G__81 | and i like Launch Pad i just created an account and have kept it, I did it when i first tried Ubuntu in 7.04 | 11:48 |
| G__81 | and does Ubuntu have ambassadors too ? can i represent Ubuntu in my community ? | 11:49 |
| directhex | yes. wear a jaunty hat. | 11:49 |
| G__81 | :) | 11:49 |
| G__81 | lol | 11:49 |
| G__81 | is it quite hard to become a Ubuntu Member ? | 11:50 |
| directhex | depends. any hat shops near you? | 11:50 |
| RainCT | lol | 11:50 |
| G__81 | directhex, no :) i would probably get Adidas there :) | 11:50 |
| RainCT | G__81: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership | 11:51 |
| wattazoum | hello all | 11:51 |
| wattazoum | I was looking at the file /etc/cron.daily/apt and I see a sleep there (like for 30 minutes). Does someone know why there is this sleep ? | 11:51 |
| G__81 | but anyway my contributions would be recognized here so i would like to be part of it and improve it more :) | 11:52 |
| G__81 | what mailing lists can i be part of | 11:52 |
| wattazoum | I would have think, we would sleep if someone is using an apt frontend | 11:52 |
| G__81 | i am interested in bug fixing, some gnome development and testing too | 11:53 |
| wattazoum | but if it's the case, we exit quietly | 11:53 |
| wattazoum | otherwise we will always sleep | 11:53 |
| ScottK | james_w: (re new source packages): Great. I've seen the bug now. It looks like you were ahead of me. | 13:06 |
| G__81 | hi hyperair installed Ubuntu 8.10 and its really good | 14:32 |
| hyperair | G__81: good to hear =) | 14:33 |
| G__81 | i was able to concentrate on other things rather than customizing my system | 14:33 |
| G__81 | which is the first thing i liked | 14:33 |
| hyperair | G__81: ah. well i generally customize my system before i begin work. | 14:43 |
| hyperair | G__81: and if i need stuff within closer reach then i customize it even more | 14:43 |
| G__81 | hyperair, customization is fine but i hate installing courier fonts again and again when i install it newly in every system | 14:43 |
| G__81 | hyperair, and the number of updates in fedora is too huge for me to download it everytime | 14:44 |
| hyperair | heh | 14:44 |
| G__81 | i dont say fedora is bad but when i installed ubuntu now i am able to see the difference | 14:44 |
| G__81 | hey now how do i start off with my contribution | 14:44 |
| G__81 | i ve my LP account | 14:44 |
| G__81 | i am not able to find any information on what has LP got to do with my contribution | 14:45 |
| jdstrand | Rhonda: Laney and I were just talking about wesnoth. We ask that submitters follow https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityUpdateProcedures#Preparing%20an%20update, where it says that if you submit a patch or debdiff for a release, mark the task as 'In Progress'. We have scripts to point those out | 14:55 |
| jdstrand | Rhonda: that said, it is always ok to ping a member of the security team regarding something you submitted | 14:56 |
| hyperair | G__81: LP has the bug tracker. | 14:58 |
| jdstrand | Rhonda: we apologize that your patch has not been reviewed, but it has been flagged and someone will look at it next week, probably tomorrow | 14:59 |
| hyperair | G__81: generally you contribute by filing/fixing bugs | 14:59 |
| G__81 | fixing can be by sending patches too right ? | 14:59 |
| hyperair | G__81: you mentioned you work on the kernel right? perhaps you might want to join the kernel team | 14:59 |
| G__81 | yeah i ve not done packaging. I am basically into networking subsystem. The TCP/IP and those areas :) | 14:59 |
| hyperair | G__81: yeah, you can submit the patch in LP, and in upstream, and when upstream's done, backport the patch from upstream into the current version in ubuntu | 14:59 |
| hyperair | and so on | 14:59 |
| G__81 | ok so its not that i ve to go only through debdiff i can do diff -ur and do the patch | 15:00 |
| G__81 | right ? | 15:00 |
| hyperair | right | 15:00 |
| hyperair | you can submit the patch, and wait for someone else to generate a debdiff | 15:01 |
| hyperair | but if you could generate the debdiff with the patch in it, that would be better of course | 15:01 |
| G__81 | ok so what mailing lists i can join | 15:01 |
| savvas | is anyone using python-zsi ? anyone cares to test a new merge for ubuntu? :P bug 237674 | 15:01 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 237674 in zsi "Please merge python-zsi (2.1~a1-2) (universe) from Debian unstable (main)." [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/237674 | 15:01 |
| G__81 | when a person joins Ubuntu what mailing lists are good for subscription | 15:02 |
| hyperair | G__81: ummm the devel list i guess | 15:02 |
| hyperair | ubuntu-devel and ubuntu-motu? | 15:02 |
| hyperair | and perhaps ubuntu-devel-discuss | 15:02 |
| hyperair | and ubuntu-motu-mentors | 15:02 |
| savvas | G__81: you have a list here: https://lists.ubuntu.com/ - usually announcements are good :) | 15:02 |
| nhandler | And the -news list is also good | 15:03 |
| G__81 | oh ok | 15:03 |
| G__81 | is there a channel for ambassadors ? | 15:04 |
| hyperair | ambassadors? | 15:04 |
| G__81 | yeah like in fedora we have fedora ambassadors who recruit people and who talk in conferences etc. how is it in ubuntu | 15:05 |
| bersace | Hi | 15:05 |
| G__81 | or rather you could call it the marketing team | 15:05 |
| bersace | Is there any chance to get gnome-scan 0.6.2 in jaunty universe ? | 15:05 |
| G__81 | and one question are ubuntu releases supported for 18 months ? | 15:08 |
| G__81 | i know there is LTS which is for 3 years in the desktop and whats with the other non-LTS releases | 15:08 |
| JontheEchidna | 18 month for non-LTS, 3 years for desktop LTS, and I think 6 years for server LTS | 15:23 |
| pochu | s/6/5/ | 15:24 |
| JontheEchidna | yeah | 15:24 |
| hyperair | G__81: i think here it's the loco teams | 15:24 |
| G__81 | it used to be 6 months before right i mean the support for non-lts | 15:24 |
| Nafallo | G__81: no | 15:30 |
| Nafallo | that have never ever been the case | 15:30 |
| G__81 | k | 15:31 |
| RainCT | G__81: 6 months is the time it takes for a new version to be released | 15:33 |
| pmjdebruijn | non-lts has always had 18 months after release | 15:33 |
| G__81 | oh its wonderful then | 15:34 |
| RainCT | :) | 15:36 |
| G__81 | how do i become an Ubuntero i looked into the LP and when i do gpg --send-keys <Key-ID> it does not work so i tried specifiying the key server too even then it does not | 15:37 |
| RainCT | G__81: Are you replacing <Key-ID> with the ID of your key? :P | 15:38 |
| G__81 | yeah of course :) | 15:38 |
| RainCT | G__81: Hehe. Which error message do you get? | 15:38 |
| G__81 | gpg: no keyserver known (use option --keyserver) | 15:38 |
| G__81 | then i gave this | 15:38 |
| G__81 | gpg --send-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com Key_ID | 15:38 |
| G__81 | then i got this | 15:38 |
| G__81 | gpgkeys: HTTP post error 6: Couldn't resolve host 'keyserver.ubuntu.com' | 15:39 |
| G__81 | gpg: keyserver internal error | 15:39 |
| G__81 | gpg: keyserver send failed: keyserver error | 15:39 |
| RainCT | G__81: try with another keyserver | 15:40 |
| G__81 | whats it can you let me know please ? | 15:40 |
| RainCT | G__81: hkp://pgp.mit.edu:11371, for instance | 15:40 |
| fta | G__81, try with --keyserver 1st | 15:41 |
| G__81 | gpg --send-keys --keyserver hkp://pgp.mit.edu:11371 right? | 15:41 |
| G__81 | with the ID of course :) | 15:41 |
| G__81 | does not work same error | 15:43 |
| G__81 | gpgkeys: HTTP post error 6: Couldn't resolve host 'pgp.mit.edu' | 15:43 |
| geser | G__81: does your DNS work? | 15:43 |
| G__81 | yes | 15:43 |
| geser | so "host keyserver.ubuntu.com" works? | 15:44 |
| G__81 | let me check that | 15:44 |
| G__81 | no :( | 15:45 |
| G__81 | surprised | 15:45 |
| fta | G__81, try: gpg --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --send-keys Key_ID | 15:45 |
| geser | fta: this won't work with a non-working DNS setup | 15:45 |
| fta | the parsing of arguments is funny in ggp | 15:45 |
| G__81 | yeah worked | 15:46 |
| G__81 | :) | 15:46 |
| fta | good | 15:46 |
| geser | why could it now resolve the hostname and not earlier? | 15:47 |
| G__81 | no idea :) | 15:48 |
| G__81 | gpg --clearsign new | 15:51 |
| G__81 | cant i give this ? | 15:51 |
| G__81 | i get error saying new no such file or directory | 15:52 |
| G__81 | when i do touch new | 15:52 |
| G__81 | i dont get errors and it just keeps waiting after i enter the PassPhrase | 15:53 |
| G__81 | should i wait for few moments its a 2054 Key | 15:54 |
| G__81 | 2048 key | 15:54 |
| superm1 | siretart, that was a long time ago i applied. i dont think i have a good reason to be in it now | 16:39 |
| * RainCT wonders why screensaver inhibit doesn't also disable the "dim screen on inactivity" | 16:40 | |
| superm1 | RainCT, perhaps that's X itself doing that dimming | 16:40 |
| siretart | superm1: sorry to hear that :( - can you draw back that application yourself? | 16:40 |
| superm1 | rather than gnome-screensaver | 16:40 |
| superm1 | siretart, well a better response is i dont know i have a time commitment to help out ~motu-media now :) | 16:41 |
| superm1 | i'll see if i can withdraw the application myself | 16:41 |
| RainCT | superm1: well, but from my user POV I don't mind at all what's doing the dimming, I only know that I have to disable it because if I play a game it is dimmed and I don't want to have to enable/disable the option all the time | 16:41 |
| RainCT | :P | 16:41 |
| superm1 | RainCT, well if this indeed what the problem is though, i'd consider that bug too | 16:42 |
| superm1 | that inhibiting should set the X screensaver and power management settings too | 16:42 |
| superm1 | play with xset a little bit and see if you can get it to stop. if so, i think a patch should be very easy to gnome-screensaver to do that same functionality | 16:43 |
| superm1 | siretart, i cant see any (logical) way to withdraw that application myself | 16:47 |
| siretart | ok, then I'll do it | 16:47 |
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| AndrewGee | Hi all. Should I file a bug against a package, if it needs to be rebuilt for python2.6? | 17:41 |
| Laney | yes | 17:44 |
| AndrewGee | Ok. Will do :) | 17:44 |
| AndrewGee | Thanks Laney | 17:44 |
| Laney | even better if you can cook up a patch | 17:45 |
| AndrewGee | Laney: Would I just make a new changelog entry saying that it needs rebuilding, in the patch? | 17:46 |
| Laney | you might have to patch the build system | 17:47 |
| Laney | --install-layout=deb or something | 17:47 |
| ScottK | AndrewGee: If there are any hard coded references to site-packages those will have to be changed. | 17:48 |
| AndrewGee | Okay. I'll look into it. Thanks. | 17:48 |
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| eMerzh | I'm looking for a Motu to review my package at http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=sqliteman .. thanks :) | 18:00 |
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| J-_ | Hello | 19:34 |
| J-_ | wrong channel, but hello to you to! | 19:34 |
| RainCT | hehe, hi | 19:37 |
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| savvas | anyone familiar with awk? Is there a command line argument to make it recursive (like grep -r)? | 21:13 |
| lfaraone | Hi, what's the chance that I can get a FFE for bug 339869? (NEW package synced from debian) | 21:39 |
| ubottu | Error: Launchpad bug 339869 could not be found | 21:39 |
| lfaraone | * bug 339689 | 21:39 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 339689 in rsyslog "rsyslog-gnutls not available in ubuntu" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/339689 | 21:39 |
| Laney | vorian: Are you sponsoring bug 334954? | 21:55 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 334954 in banshee "Don't register as default video player" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/334954 | 21:55 |
| Laney | if so, please don't :( | 21:56 |
| Laney | vorian: Can I wontfix it please? | 22:11 |
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| wgrant | ScottK: As uploader of the last three versions of python-kde3, do you have any objections to me uploading a new upstream bugfix release to fix the FTBFS and build against Python 2.6? | 23:58 |
| ScottK | wgrant: Not at all. Please do. | 23:58 |
| wgrant | Ah, I see you commented on the bug. | 23:58 |
| wgrant | ScottK: Thanks, uploading now. | 23:58 |
| ScottK | wgrant: Thanks for looking into that one. | 23:58 |
| wgrant | It was blocking some other stuff I wanted done. | 23:59 |
| wgrant | I really don't like the way this was started so late in the cycle... | 23:59 |
| Laney | is there a wiki page or something for coordination? | 23:59 |
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