[01:12] Is it possible to have multiple bind-mounts in pbuilder? [01:16] ripps: I believe so [01:17] james_w: whenever I try to add a second path using : or | it glitches out on me. [01:17] --bindmounts bind-mount-points [01:17] Bind-mount the specified directories to inside the chroot. bind-mount-points is a space-delimited list of directories to bind-mount. [01:20] james_w: I'm trying put this all in my .pbuilderrc using the BINDMOUNTS variable. I need it for ccache and for parsing my result directory for packages. [01:20] have you tried: === pochu_ is now known as pochu [01:20] BINDMOUNTS="foo bar" [01:20] ... I think that might be the only thing I haven't tried. [01:24] Man... now I feel real stupid. [01:29] Hmmm... the script sees the package in /var/cache/pbuilder/result, but it won't allow it to be pulled in by depends... [01:30] pbuilder doesn't make the results available to subsequent builds [01:31] http://paste.ubuntu.com/128031/ is what I use to make it do that, with an appropriate bind mount [01:31] james_w: I know, that's why I setup a script to dpkg-scanpackages the results directory. [01:40] James_w: cool your script worked [01:40] ripps: glad to hear it [01:40] but i keep getting this when I try to compile gmpc from git: http://paste.ubuntu.com/128035/ === asac_ is now known as asac [03:19] anyone know what larry wall called the "{}"? [03:20] I had a name for it I won't say in here, but I was told Larry's was even more amusing. [03:20] google's no good at searching symbols. [03:58] james_w: I saw your post on the new source package formats on debian-devel. Do you know if Launchpad is ready for the new formats? [03:59] It's not. [04:00] But two people have asked about it in the past 24 hours. [04:00] And there is a bug, with Low priority. [04:00] And untargetted. [04:01] Lovely. [04:01] * ScottK guesses the priority will change after the first Karmic autosync run. [04:01] Or after a distroteam person pokes them. [04:01] Or after seeing james_w's comment in the bug. [04:02] I'm hoping the last. [04:02] What bug? [04:02] Bug #293106 [04:02] Launchpad bug 293106 in soyuz "does not support debian v3 source formats" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/293106 [04:02] Thanks. [04:03] The patches to dak weren't too extensive, so it shouldn't take too long to implement it in Soyuz. [04:09] whats the process of gettign a package replaced in ubuntu. tspc is no longer maintained and gw6c is the new package, ive filed a bug report. is there anything special I need to do to it [04:09] https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tspc/+bug/339405 [04:09] Ubuntu bug 339405 in tspc "replace tspc with gw6c" [Undecided,New] [04:26] harrisony: Is the new package in Debian? [04:28] ScottK: no [04:28] To get it done will take someone to make the new package. [04:29] Also it'd take a freeze exception to get it in late in the development cycle where we are now. [04:29] If the old one is not working, then that ought to be doable if someone makes the package. [04:32] I see [04:54] ScottK: if I was to make the package would I push it to REVU? [04:54] Yes [04:55] cool [05:14] I'd like to put a request in. Could someone please, update the Wings3d version in the repos to 0.99.04a, or 0.99.53? === asac_ is now known as asac === asac_ is now known as asac [06:52] ScottK: that's why I went to make sure the soyuz people were aware of the developments [07:04] hi, everyone. would anyone be willing to help me get started with the motu? i have limited experience, but am willing to learn and am a fast learner. [07:18] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/GettingStarted [07:21] Hmm, nice playbook. [08:08] WELL. [08:08] I think I found a bug in the timer applet. [08:09] I don't think an hour quite elapsed there... :) [09:56] LucidFox: superm1: are you still interested in joining ~motumedia? [10:10] sure [10:58] tseliot, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-options-editor-gtk/+bug/339220 [10:58] Ubuntu bug 339220 in xorg-options-editor-gtk "xorg-options-editor-gtk isn't installable" [Undecided,Confirmed] [10:58] any news? [11:03] surfaz: yes, it works well, thanks for the patch. I'll ask someone to upload it (as I'm not a motu yet) [11:04] tseliot, I made also a Spanish translation [11:04] bobbo, want know if you accept this translation [11:04] surfaz: yes, and I was planning to add that too for the new upload [11:05] ok, thanks! [11:05] thank you ;) [11:28] I am interested in contributing to ubuntu. I have been using Linux for a pretty long time . I am interested in bug fixing and other activities but ve not done packaging [11:28] so can someone help me get started [11:28] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/GettingStarted [11:28] start off looking at how to get bug fixes into packages, imho [11:28] i probably would like to get started with Packaging a little later on [11:29] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide [11:29] G__81, http://www.ubuntu.com/community/participate [11:29] join a loco team =p [11:29] i ve been contributing to fedora though fedora is really good with great respects and values i thought i could start contributing to Ubuntu from now on [11:29] why the change of heart? [11:30] hyperair, yeah good question [11:30] KDE4? (Linus) [11:30] no i use gnome :) [11:30] i tried KDE4 but went to gnome :) [11:31] hyperair, what i like about Ubuntu is that when people contribute in Ubuntu, its recognized [11:31] i started with gnome, tried kde3, went back to gnome, tried fluxbox, and e17, then went back to gnome. then i tried kde4, and then went back to gnome. [11:31] looks like gnome's the best for me =D [11:31] G__81: it is? [11:31] hyperair, and its a really good thing and apart from it as a distro what i like i feel Ubuntu is quite stable that is fedora is a bleeding edge distro yesterday updated a package and i dont know what happened [11:31] G__81: i mean it isn't with fedora? [11:31] i got screwed up [11:32] hyperair, you mean recognition ? [11:32] G__81: yes [11:32] hyperair, its there if you take i ve my blog in Fedora and ve account too in Fedora Server but its not been advertised as what Ubuntu does thats from a process angle i am talking about. [11:33] hyperair, as a distro Fedora is good as well as bad if you are not lucky a particular day probably couple of days back i just updated one package and gone [11:33] with great difficulty i backed up the data and then had to reinstall it [11:33] X Server was flickering continuously no errors in X logs [11:33] so i was surprised and didnt know what to do [11:34] i work on the kernel and as well contribute to Quagga a lot so i thought moving to Ubuntu would hinder my development [11:34] thats the question i ve [11:34] currently [11:34] well we try not to have those happen here, but if you use ubuntu+1 it's bound to happen [11:34] if its off topic please execuse me [11:35] yeah thats acceptable :) [11:35] =) [11:35] Ubuntu + 1 is acceptable :) [11:35] it's probably not my place to say this, but welcome to ubuntu =p [11:35] thanks hyperair :) [11:35] hyperair, will it hinder the development as such ? [11:36] i contribute to quagga and i use UML and qemu in fedora to do it [11:36] G__81: nah. shouldn't [11:36] G__81: i use ubuntu as a platform to develop on. i think stability goes a long way in boosting productivity. [11:37] i have no idea what UML is, but qemu definitely works over here [11:38] so i am concerned about those things in Ubuntu, I use a Fedora 8 file system but in Ubuntu i heard that when you create a Ubuntu File system using debootstrap the file system gets created but when i boot it with UML, my friend got 6 virtual consoles automatically being opened and all of them were login windows and finally he had to suppress 5 virtual console terminals from being opened so he fiddled with some etc/blah...and finally made that but still he [11:38] gets 6 but 5 disabled and one showing the login prompt [11:38] :) [11:41] well. i have no experience with UML [11:41] usermode linux right? [11:41] never attempted it before [11:45] it UML relevant for normal use anymore? with openvz/vserver/lxc? [11:45] yeah its User Mode Linux [11:45] it seems UML is only relevant for kernel developers these days... [11:46] hyperair, yeah exactly i use it because i work on the kernel for office work though i am not a kernel developer listed in kernel.org :) [11:47] hyperair, and the most important fact is after fedora got corrupted i had to reinstall fedora which again took another 1 hr and then came the worst thing i had to download the updates using yum again [11:47] i missed aptonCD and hence i joined Packagekit and now i am in the process of writing a plugin kind of thing for Packagekit which imitates AptOnCD [11:48] * hyperair doesn't like yum/rpm [11:48] and i like Launch Pad i just created an account and have kept it, I did it when i first tried Ubuntu in 7.04 [11:49] and does Ubuntu have ambassadors too ? can i represent Ubuntu in my community ? [11:49] yes. wear a jaunty hat. [11:49] :) [11:49] lol [11:50] is it quite hard to become a Ubuntu Member ? [11:50] depends. any hat shops near you? [11:50] lol [11:50] directhex, no :) i would probably get Adidas there :) [11:51] G__81: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership [11:51] hello all [11:51] I was looking at the file /etc/cron.daily/apt and I see a sleep there (like for 30 minutes). Does someone know why there is this sleep ? [11:52] but anyway my contributions would be recognized here so i would like to be part of it and improve it more :) [11:52] what mailing lists can i be part of [11:52] I would have think, we would sleep if someone is using an apt frontend [11:53] i am interested in bug fixing, some gnome development and testing too [11:53] but if it's the case, we exit quietly [11:53] otherwise we will always sleep [13:06] james_w: (re new source packages): Great. I've seen the bug now. It looks like you were ahead of me. [14:32] hi hyperair installed Ubuntu 8.10 and its really good [14:33] G__81: good to hear =) [14:33] i was able to concentrate on other things rather than customizing my system [14:33] which is the first thing i liked [14:43] G__81: ah. well i generally customize my system before i begin work. [14:43] G__81: and if i need stuff within closer reach then i customize it even more [14:43] hyperair, customization is fine but i hate installing courier fonts again and again when i install it newly in every system [14:44] hyperair, and the number of updates in fedora is too huge for me to download it everytime [14:44] heh [14:44] i dont say fedora is bad but when i installed ubuntu now i am able to see the difference [14:44] hey now how do i start off with my contribution [14:44] i ve my LP account [14:45] i am not able to find any information on what has LP got to do with my contribution [14:55] Rhonda: Laney and I were just talking about wesnoth. We ask that submitters follow https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityUpdateProcedures#Preparing%20an%20update, where it says that if you submit a patch or debdiff for a release, mark the task as 'In Progress'. We have scripts to point those out [14:56] Rhonda: that said, it is always ok to ping a member of the security team regarding something you submitted [14:58] G__81: LP has the bug tracker. [14:59] Rhonda: we apologize that your patch has not been reviewed, but it has been flagged and someone will look at it next week, probably tomorrow [14:59] G__81: generally you contribute by filing/fixing bugs [14:59] fixing can be by sending patches too right ? [14:59] G__81: you mentioned you work on the kernel right? perhaps you might want to join the kernel team [14:59] yeah i ve not done packaging. I am basically into networking subsystem. The TCP/IP and those areas :) [14:59] G__81: yeah, you can submit the patch in LP, and in upstream, and when upstream's done, backport the patch from upstream into the current version in ubuntu [14:59] and so on [15:00] ok so its not that i ve to go only through debdiff i can do diff -ur and do the patch [15:00] right ? [15:00] right [15:01] you can submit the patch, and wait for someone else to generate a debdiff [15:01] but if you could generate the debdiff with the patch in it, that would be better of course [15:01] ok so what mailing lists i can join [15:01] is anyone using python-zsi ? anyone cares to test a new merge for ubuntu? :P bug 237674 [15:01] Launchpad bug 237674 in zsi "Please merge python-zsi (2.1~a1-2) (universe) from Debian unstable (main)." [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/237674 [15:02] when a person joins Ubuntu what mailing lists are good for subscription [15:02] G__81: ummm the devel list i guess [15:02] ubuntu-devel and ubuntu-motu? [15:02] and perhaps ubuntu-devel-discuss [15:02] and ubuntu-motu-mentors [15:02] G__81: you have a list here: https://lists.ubuntu.com/ - usually announcements are good :) [15:03] And the -news list is also good [15:03] oh ok [15:04] is there a channel for ambassadors ? [15:04] ambassadors? [15:05] yeah like in fedora we have fedora ambassadors who recruit people and who talk in conferences etc. how is it in ubuntu [15:05] Hi [15:05] or rather you could call it the marketing team [15:05] Is there any chance to get gnome-scan 0.6.2 in jaunty universe ? [15:08] and one question are ubuntu releases supported for 18 months ? [15:08] i know there is LTS which is for 3 years in the desktop and whats with the other non-LTS releases [15:23] 18 month for non-LTS, 3 years for desktop LTS, and I think 6 years for server LTS [15:24] s/6/5/ [15:24] yeah [15:24] G__81: i think here it's the loco teams [15:24] it used to be 6 months before right i mean the support for non-lts [15:30] G__81: no [15:30] that have never ever been the case [15:31] k [15:33] G__81: 6 months is the time it takes for a new version to be released [15:33] non-lts has always had 18 months after release [15:34] oh its wonderful then [15:36] :) [15:37] how do i become an Ubuntero i looked into the LP and when i do gpg --send-keys it does not work so i tried specifiying the key server too even then it does not [15:38] G__81: Are you replacing with the ID of your key? :P [15:38] yeah of course :) [15:38] G__81: Hehe. Which error message do you get? [15:38] gpg: no keyserver known (use option --keyserver) [15:38] then i gave this [15:38] gpg --send-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com Key_ID [15:38] then i got this [15:39] gpgkeys: HTTP post error 6: Couldn't resolve host 'keyserver.ubuntu.com' [15:39] gpg: keyserver internal error [15:39] gpg: keyserver send failed: keyserver error [15:40] G__81: try with another keyserver [15:40] whats it can you let me know please ? [15:40] G__81: hkp://pgp.mit.edu:11371, for instance [15:41] G__81, try with --keyserver 1st [15:41] gpg --send-keys --keyserver hkp://pgp.mit.edu:11371 right? [15:41] with the ID of course :) [15:43] does not work same error [15:43] gpgkeys: HTTP post error 6: Couldn't resolve host 'pgp.mit.edu' [15:43] G__81: does your DNS work? [15:43] yes [15:44] so "host keyserver.ubuntu.com" works? [15:44] let me check that [15:45] no :( [15:45] surprised [15:45] G__81, try: gpg --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --send-keys Key_ID [15:45] fta: this won't work with a non-working DNS setup [15:45] the parsing of arguments is funny in ggp [15:46] yeah worked [15:46] :) [15:46] good [15:47] why could it now resolve the hostname and not earlier? [15:48] no idea :) [15:51] gpg --clearsign new [15:51] cant i give this ? [15:52] i get error saying new no such file or directory [15:52] when i do touch new [15:53] i dont get errors and it just keeps waiting after i enter the PassPhrase [15:54] should i wait for few moments its a 2054 Key [15:54] 2048 key [16:39] siretart, that was a long time ago i applied. i dont think i have a good reason to be in it now [16:40] * RainCT wonders why screensaver inhibit doesn't also disable the "dim screen on inactivity" [16:40] RainCT, perhaps that's X itself doing that dimming [16:40] superm1: sorry to hear that :( - can you draw back that application yourself? [16:40] rather than gnome-screensaver [16:41] siretart, well a better response is i dont know i have a time commitment to help out ~motu-media now :) [16:41] i'll see if i can withdraw the application myself [16:41] superm1: well, but from my user POV I don't mind at all what's doing the dimming, I only know that I have to disable it because if I play a game it is dimmed and I don't want to have to enable/disable the option all the time [16:41] :P [16:42] RainCT, well if this indeed what the problem is though, i'd consider that bug too [16:42] that inhibiting should set the X screensaver and power management settings too [16:43] play with xset a little bit and see if you can get it to stop. if so, i think a patch should be very easy to gnome-screensaver to do that same functionality [16:47] siretart, i cant see any (logical) way to withdraw that application myself [16:47] ok, then I'll do it === imbrando2 is now known as imbrandon [17:41] Hi all. Should I file a bug against a package, if it needs to be rebuilt for python2.6? [17:44] yes [17:44] Ok. Will do :) [17:44] Thanks Laney [17:45] even better if you can cook up a patch [17:46] Laney: Would I just make a new changelog entry saying that it needs rebuilding, in the patch? [17:47] you might have to patch the build system [17:47] --install-layout=deb or something [17:48] AndrewGee: If there are any hard coded references to site-packages those will have to be changed. [17:48] Okay. I'll look into it. Thanks. === Amaranth_ is now known as Amaranth [18:00] I'm looking for a Motu to review my package at http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=sqliteman .. thanks :) === Sp4rKy_ is now known as Sp4rKy [19:34] Hello [19:34] wrong channel, but hello to you to! [19:37] hehe, hi === oojah_ is now known as oojah === Amaranth_ is now known as Amaranth [21:13] anyone familiar with awk? Is there a command line argument to make it recursive (like grep -r)? [21:39] Hi, what's the chance that I can get a FFE for bug 339869? (NEW package synced from debian) [21:39] Error: Launchpad bug 339869 could not be found [21:39] * bug 339689 [21:39] Launchpad bug 339689 in rsyslog "rsyslog-gnutls not available in ubuntu" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/339689 [21:55] vorian: Are you sponsoring bug 334954? [21:55] Launchpad bug 334954 in banshee "Don't register as default video player" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/334954 [21:56] if so, please don't :( [22:11] vorian: Can I wontfix it please? === azeem_ is now known as azeem [23:58] ScottK: As uploader of the last three versions of python-kde3, do you have any objections to me uploading a new upstream bugfix release to fix the FTBFS and build against Python 2.6? [23:58] wgrant: Not at all. Please do. [23:58] Ah, I see you commented on the bug. [23:58] ScottK: Thanks, uploading now. [23:58] wgrant: Thanks for looking into that one. [23:59] It was blocking some other stuff I wanted done. [23:59] I really don't like the way this was started so late in the cycle... [23:59] is there a wiki page or something for coordination?