[00:00] <david_> sebsebseb, i went to system, administration, login window and removed the "show actions" menu
[00:00] <tesseracter> starfruit, you havent even got the netbook, you really want to argue about this?
[00:00] <dale1v> im new with this ubuntu stuff (installed it last night), but ive installed kde 4.2.1 fine and everything works but im getting a few artifacts on the screen. is it kde or is it the drivers?
[00:00] <sebsebseb> david_: ok I don't know
[00:00] <david_> sebsebseb, but when i go to system quit it doesnt allow me to turn it off
[00:00] <starfruit> ajehals, netbook is only 8 gb
[00:00] <sebsebseb> dale1v: artifacts?????
[00:00] <tesseracter> ajehals, i've been trying to tell him to use a VM, isnt working.
[00:00] <starfruit> tesseracter, on my laptop, dual boot is faster than vmware
[00:00] <mezquitale> dale1v, try GNOME, gnome is a lot faster than KDE and a lot simpler
[00:00] <dale1v> sebsebseb, visual bugs
[00:00] <starfruit> tesseracter, my current laptop
[00:01] <ajehals> starfruit - so? You will need disk space whether it is in a VM or a physical partition.
[00:01] <sebsebseb> dale1v: ok do you have your graphics card driver installed?
[00:01] <rww> LifeIsPain: stab Nytrix. And the general consensus here is that xchat-gnome sucks too.]
[00:01]  * LifeIsPain stabs Nytrix a bit
[00:01] <tesseracter> starfruit, what the heck are you trying to do with this thing?
[00:01] <dale1v> urm yeah i do. when i selected advanced visual effects in settings in gnome it downloaded a set of drivers
[00:02] <starfruit> tesseracter, use two OS
[00:02] <Nytrix> lol
[00:02] <rww> Nytrix: quit sending people to the wrong room. xchat-gnome isn't supported for #xchat, and we shouldn't be sending people to #xchat for xchat problems most of the time anyway.
[00:02] <rww> LifeIsPain: thanks for pointing it out.
[00:02] <Nytrix> my bad
[00:02] <LifeIsPain> I don't mind answering questions related to xchat itself, it is why I contribute there, but it doesn't help with missinformation
[00:03] <needhelp> Is xmms obsolete? Then which player is newer and at least equally good? Dont say rhythmbox or some big and advanced crap like that
[00:03] <rww> !xmms | needhelp
[00:03] <tesseracter> starfruit, why on the netbook???
[00:03] <bazhang> needhelp, audacious
[00:03] <sebsebseb> needhelp: your on Intrepid Ibex?
[00:03] <sebsebseb> needhelp: try Banshee :)
[00:03] <donavan01> starfruit not so sound like an ass here but why would you want to run server 2008 on a netbook?
[00:03] <Nytrix> needhelp use VLC
[00:03] <needhelp> I installed xmms2, but that was just a commandline-tool!
[00:04] <CharelB> needhelp,
[00:04] <tesseracter> starfruit, what you are suggesting is like loading 4 fat dudes in a miata. its possible, but WHY?
[00:04] <rww> needhelp: then look at the others. xmms is very, very obsolete.
[00:04] <CharelB> you should install a GUI for xmms and you're done ..
[00:04]  * tesseracter highfives donavan01 
[00:04] <needhelp> okay, ill try the others
[00:05] <donavan01> tesseracter: nice way of putting it
[00:05] <sebsebseb> needhelp: Banshee is a very good  music and video player, well  the version in Intrepid Ibex 8.10,  version in Hardy 8.04 sucks, but a ppa can be got for  Ibex version
[00:05] <starfruit> why? because i dual boot all the time on my othre machines
[00:05] <Nytrix> needhelp, id say VLC is best
[00:05] <Nytrix> !ask
[00:06] <donavan01> starfruit:  no why would you take a small  portable (not very powerful machine and load it with an OS that is designed to be run on a stationary machine with some every duty processing power
[00:06] <tesseracter> starfruit, the consensus is that your question is well outside normal usage, and you are on your own for this stuff.
[00:06] <needhelp> VLC is good for avi-playback. I just installed audacious. Looks very like xmms
[00:06] <tesseracter> starfruit left...
[00:07] <donavan01> starfruit: dont get me wrong im all about doing things just for the sake of doing it but I really dont see that point other than bragging rights
[00:08] <donavan01> :(
[00:08] <r33tfux0r> Greetings.  My monitor is no longer showing up properly (unknown) and my resolution choices are incorrect.  I am running 8.10.  I checked xorg.conf and tried to reconfigure the server to no avail.
[00:08] <tesseracter> so, anyone seen someone put one audio stream to the front speakers, and another stream to the rear speakers? or am i off in crazy-land?
[00:08] <ajehals> starfruit: what was the issue initially?
[00:08] <donavan01> ajehals: he ran away
[00:09] <ajehals> donavan01 - huh, didn't see him quit.  My client must be playing up...
[00:09] <donavan01> ajehals: thats ok I had to be told too thats why I passed the message along
[00:09] <ajehals> ta
[00:09] <sidewalk> anyone know how to setup wpa ad-hoc under debian? where can i find a good manual? network-manager doesn't work
[00:10] <sebsebseb> !debian
[00:10] <sebsebseb> sidewalk: try #debian
[00:10] <bazhang> sidewalk, debian has very ample documentation; this is ubuntu support only
[00:10] <donavan01> so I accidentally killed my networkmanager applet and now I dont know how to get it back and its not showing up in the add applet window ... a little help?
[00:10] <sidewalk> anyone know how to setup wpa ad-hoc under ubuntu? where can i find a good manual? network-manager doesn't work
[00:11] <sidewalk> :P
[00:11] <sebsebseb> sidewalk: a quick change of distro?  or you meant to type Ubuntu all along?
[00:11] <mmanders> You could try wicd - an alternative network manager GUI that's pretty good#
[00:11] <sidewalk> sebsebseb: ubuntu ubuntu. 8.10 :PÅ
[00:11] <sebsebseb> sidewalk: why did you put Debian then?  :D
[00:11] <bazhang> sidewalk, how about seeing your sources.list -->paste.ubuntu.com
[00:12] <ajehals> sidewalk - shall I drop my wpa config files from *debian* onto a pastebin for you...?
[00:12] <sidewalk> ajehals: would be nice to see
[00:15] <sidewalk> ajehals: url?
[00:17] <Edbuntu> any plans for the next release of Ubuntu yet?
[00:17] <Edbuntu> I know its a month off
[00:18] <bazhang> Edbuntu, discussion in #ubuntu+1
[00:18] <_VIM_> try #ubuntu+1
[00:18] <ajehals> msg sidewalk  http://pastebin.com/m290cb65f
[00:18] <LjL> !doesn't work | sidewalk
[00:18] <Rictu> I'm not the brightest bulb in the room but I have a problem that I'm sure you folks can help with. Every time I attempt to run updates fetch fails and the system asks if I want to partial upgrade which never runs complete. Any ideas how I can rectify the problem ?
[00:20] <LjL> !pm | sidewalk
[00:20] <SwissChse> Synaptic, check for broken packages...
[00:21] <LjL> sidewalk: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Adhoc
[00:21] <Edbuntu> when do you guys suspect that ubuntu will be able toplay windows games like COD and GTA ?
[00:21] <rogue780> I just installed ubuntu on a system with an ide drive as primary master, and then a sata drive as well. the sata drive is mounted at /data/share and the ide drive is the / partition. When it starts to boot it gives me an error 2, which I believe is a partition not found error. I believe this is because ubuntu's installer detects the drives in a different order then grub...how do I edit grub to detect them in the right order?
[00:21] <bazhang> Edbuntu, check the appdb
[00:21] <LjL> sidewalk: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs for the non-ad-hoc-specific instructions including WPA usage
[00:21] <zash> what the hell, gnome-do totaly locked X, and refused to die
[00:21] <rogue780> I've managed to get bash and my / partition mounted ... not sure where to look
[00:22] <mylisto> trying to rip a movie I own for a backup...
[00:22] <mylisto> the dvd is like 7.9g
[00:22] <LjL> Edbuntu: quite possibly never
[00:22] <sebsebseb> Edbuntu: I think GTA maybe works now
[00:22] <mylisto> my dvd's are only the original kind...4.5g?
[00:22] <sebsebseb> Edbuntu: just dual boot for Windows games, that you can't get working in Ubuntu
[00:23] <sebsebseb> Edbuntu: or stop playing them, and use  Linux native games instead :)
[00:23] <sebsebseb> Edbuntu: or play stuff on a games console
[00:23] <Edbuntu> k
[00:23] <danes_> Is Tue Jan 19 03:14:08 GMT 2038 still a problem nowadays?
[00:23] <sebsebseb> Edbuntu: why you calilng yourself Edubuntu?
[00:23] <LjL> sebsebseb: i suppose he can figure those out by himself...
[00:24] <_VIM_> danes luckly i'll either be gone, or too old to care :)
[00:24] <mylisto> I would love to rip the entire dvd...is this at all possible?
[00:24] <rogue780> sebsebseb, linux native games are usually fairly lame, with the exception of urban terror
[00:24] <sebsebseb> LjL: I guess one day Desktop Linux will have enough market share, and then the commerical games companies will take it seriously
[00:24] <meshuggah> hello, i only want to know when the new ubuntu ? April 2009 ?
[00:24] <meshuggah> rogue780, what is urban terror?
[00:25] <LjL> sebsebseb: quite possibly, but meanwhile, i don't think you're helping him giving obvious suggestions
[00:25] <rogue780> meshuggah, urban terror is a first person shooter based on the quake3 engine. it's super fun
[00:25] <sidewalk> anyone tried wicd under ubuntu?
[00:25] <rogue780> works on mac, linux, and windows
[00:25] <sidewalk> !wicd
[00:26] <danes_> _VIM_ I just read about it as a geek joke, but got interested in know more about it. So there is no solution up to this day?
[00:26] <LjL> !fishing | sidewalk
[00:26] <sebsebseb> LjL: well there are people that put  Ubuntu on thinking that they can play their WIndows games on it as well
[00:26] <bazhang> sidewalk, no real need, the command line works fine; would you like a guide from the forums?
[00:26] <meshuggah> rogue780, do you think it run on p4 1.5 ghz 256mb ram geforce4 64mb ?
[00:26] <rogue780> works on mac, linux, and windows? I'm having issues booting
[00:26] <vyadmin> is there a how to on how to administrate apach2...  newby on a new install of ubuntu
[00:26] <DrHalan1> hey, i uploaded a package to my ppa with dput and it said that uploading went fine but i didn'T get any email from launchpad nor did the package apear in the ppa
[00:26] <_VIM_> danes to be honest I have no clue sorry.
[00:26] <sebsebseb> !lamp
[00:26] <LjL> sebsebseb: and answering "possibly never" seems enough
[00:26] <mylisto> is it at all possible to compress a 7.5 gig dvd to a 4.5 gig dvd
[00:26] <bazhang> sebsebseb, please /msg ubottu thanks
[00:26] <rogue780> meshuggah, it runs on my mac mini (1.4ghz ppc, 512mb ram, 32mb vram) well enough to play
[00:27] <bazhang> mylisto, no
[00:27] <sebsebseb> bazhang: it wasn't clear, but it was a reply to  the mysql question
[00:27] <meshuggah> rogue780, so i should try, thank for suggestion
[00:27] <meshuggah> mylisto, i did a year ago when i had winshitxp
[00:27] <mylisto> so I need to get agual layer?
[00:27] <sebsebseb> vyadmin: I guess you may want to do LAMP so see above
[00:27] <LjL> !language | meshuggah
[00:27] <meshuggah> lol
[00:27] <bazhang> meshuggah, please keep it family friendly
[00:27] <mylisto> meshuggah: how did you do that?
[00:27] <LjL> !lol | meshuggah
[00:28] <mylisto> laughing out loud :D
[00:28] <meshuggah> mylisto, i dont remember what program, but i ripped dvd, auto-compressing it to about 55-60% average to fit 4.7gig
[00:28] <sebsebseb> !mysql |  vyadmin
[00:28] <mylisto> so not possible in ubuntu?
[00:28] <meshuggah> mylisto, i did a few of it...maybe a hundred
[00:29] <meshuggah> mylisto, i say it is probably possible
[00:29] <armence> OK, I downloaded the installer for the Java SDK. It is a .bin file. How do I run it?
[00:29] <vyadmin> if I just install apache2- LAMP on ubuntu WS so I can test and develop on it, is there a simple way to install the LAMP platform?
[00:29] <juanito_> how can i get this package libdvdcss2 ?
[00:29] <LjL> !libdvdcss2 | juanito_
[00:29] <sebsebseb> vyadmin: last time I did LAMP on Ubuntu it was very easy
[00:29] <bazhang> juanito_, dl from medibuntu.org
[00:29] <sebsebseb> vyadmin: that was over a year ago though
[00:29] <meshuggah> mylisto, i am pretty sure you can, but sorry i dont know how, i have linux installed since 1month 1week, 1week of ubuntu and now 1 month of debian
[00:29] <mylisto> hmm...
[00:29] <sebsebseb> vyadmin: yeah you just pretty much install LAMP I think
[00:29] <meshuggah> mylisto, search google for : ubuntu rip dvd
[00:30] <mylisto> anything like dvd shrink for ubuntu?
[00:30] <sebsebseb> vyadmin: pretty much just install it I think
[00:30] <juanito_> thanks
[00:30] <meshuggah> mylisto, it was one of these program i tried
[00:30] <LjL> vyadmin: the "LAMP platform" is just apache, mysql and php. nothing more.
[00:30] <meshuggah> mylisto, try google, he is your friend
[00:30] <sebsebseb> mylisto: maybe you can find an alternative on  these sites  http://www.osalt.com http://www.linuxeq.com
[00:30] <vyadmin> what about an apache managementment tutorial.. which files need to be maintained and updated?
[00:30] <meshuggah> mylisto, and when he knows something he answer, he is not like some human
[00:30] <meshuggah> \:)
[00:31] <sam_> I need some help with my iPod.
[00:31] <sebsebseb> !ipd
[00:31] <sebsebseb> !ipod
[00:31] <sam_> All of the songs have been "orphaned".
[00:31] <meshuggah> !dvdrip
[00:31] <mylisto> :D dvd95 :D
[00:31] <sam_> So they are on the iPod Hard Drive, but they dont show up in songs- so basically th thing is holding like 30 GB of music but theres nothing i can do to make it play the files
[00:32] <meshuggah> mylisto, you found?
[00:32] <armence> So, more generally, how do I execute a .bin file?
[00:32] <mylisto> just open a dvd ripper program
[00:32] <sebsebseb> sam_: there are itunes alternatives and that for Linux
[00:32] <mylisto> yeah I did
[00:32] <mylisto> get dvd 9 to 5
[00:32] <meshuggah> mylisto, great
[00:32] <sebsebseb> !bin
[00:32] <mylisto> its in the packager
[00:32] <mylisto> only problem...
[00:32] <meshuggah> mylisto, now rip enough dvd to put hollywood to his knee
[00:32] <mylisto> shows the video tracks...
[00:32] <sam_> Yea. I used GTKpod to "Check iPod's files". but that ended up freezing at the same spot like 3 times.
[00:32] <mylisto> :D
[00:32] <mylisto> its a home movie :D
[00:32] <LjL> armence: are you sure you want to? most software should be installed via the package manager, and running random programs like that may be harmful. anyway, ./filename.bin
[00:33] <meshuggah> mylisto, lol :)
[00:33] <ajehals> armence make it executable with chmod and then execute it - open a terminal and type in the filename...
[00:33] <mylisto> and it shows 2 audio tracks, both ac-3
[00:33] <sebsebseb> sam_: ok  check these sites out http://www.osalt.com http://www.linuxeq.com
[00:33] <mylisto> one is 6 channels and one is 2 channels
[00:33] <meshuggah> mylisto, take the 2nd
[00:33] <mylisto> ?
[00:33] <ajehals> armence  - is this the java installer? - because there are comprehensive instructions on the sun site for that.
[00:33] <mylisto> can't I do both?
[00:33] <meshuggah> mylisto, yes you can
[00:33] <grymme> heeey, help. :O sudo apt-get install unrar UNRAR DONT EXiST. so I install unrar-free. and that one cant unrar my rars.. :P what do i do?
[00:33] <mylisto> thats for surround sound isn't it?
[00:33] <grymme> !unrar
[00:33] <sam_> But i  need help restoring all of my files back. how else can i do that
[00:34] <meshuggah> mylisto, but me when ripping, i always took the main video + the 2 channel french
[00:34] <armence> ajehals: I didn't see those instructions... thanks though
[00:34] <meshuggah> mylisto, do what you need  :)
[00:34] <sebsebseb> sam_: I don't know, but at least one of those sites mentions a good Itunes alternative
[00:34] <grymme> !info unrar-free
[00:34] <LjL> armence: you're installing java? why not use the package?
[00:34] <armence> LjL: I'm installing the SDK
[00:34] <sam_> it's not the itunes alternative im worried about. its getting my music back to the ipod
[00:34] <webBuilder> Hello friends I am trying to follow this instruction "deb http://blognux.free.fr/ubuntu hardy main
[00:34] <webBuilder> deb-src http://blognux.free.fr/ubuntu hardy main" it keep telling me deb: command not found is there anyone who is willing to give me a direction
[00:35] <sebsebseb> sam_: don't know maybe there's a ipod channel #ipod  I know theres  #mac
[00:35] <LjL> !info sun-java6-jdk | armence
[00:35] <mylisto> dammit..getting read errors
[00:35] <sebsebseb> sam_: also Ipod is a type of hardare so  #hardware and  #linux is a more general Linux channel
[00:35] <ajehals> webBuilder - I think the instructions are to add that to your sources list. (/etc/apt/sources.list
[00:35] <ajehals> )
[00:35] <webBuilder> ajehals: you are correct but how do I do that
[00:36] <mylisto> error reading NAV packet
[00:36] <webBuilder> ajehals I just need to add that link in to that list ?
[00:36] <meshuggah> damn, this channel is way more busy than the debian one....and one thousand more people
[00:36] <mylisto> the dvd has no scratches
[00:36] <sebsebseb> meshuggah: yep
[00:36] <ajehals> either open the file and enter it, or use 'echo'.  that would be $echo "whatever" >> /etc/apt/sources.list
[00:36] <g0tcha> hey guys, whats the best way to see cpu usage durring an installation through terminal?
[00:37] <sebsebseb> !cpu
[00:37] <meshuggah> mylisto, if you copy it to your hard drive first?
[00:37] <ajehals> webBuilder - although you would have to use 'sudo echo' I suppose.
[00:37] <ensay> how come even as root on 8.10 i cant  delete a file with  rm -rf /mnt/filename    where perms is 444 for filename?
[00:37] <willytell> Hello all, I'm trying to select a video conference software for install in a server..... some idea?
[00:38] <willytell> some video conference software server, any idea?
[00:38] <sebsebseb> willytell: not sure, but maybe you can find one on http://www.osalt.com  or  http://www.linuxeq.com  also if you search these sites you can find pretty much any type of software, but some you can't just get yet since early development  http://www.sf.net  http://www.freshmeat.net
[00:38] <ensay> willytell-> must see your face or just share the desktop?
[00:39] <meshuggah> rogue780, i am new to linux, which file should i download first?, and do i need some non-free quake3 files first?
[00:39] <sebsebseb> meshuggah: clean install?
[00:39] <willytell> mainly a webcam
[00:39] <webBuilder> ajehals Thank you so much I'm trying to see if ti works
[00:39] <ensay> willytell-> dont know,try skype
[00:39] <ajehals> Macer - morning.
[00:39] <willytell> ensay, a webcam could be nice at first instance.
[00:39] <meshuggah> sebsebseb, installing urban terror
[00:40] <ensay> willytell-> do you really need to show your face?
[00:40] <meshuggah> sebsebseb, http://www.urbanterror.net/page.php?6
[00:40] <willytell> ensay, I've tested skype and it works very good. But, I would like to install something in the LAN.
[00:40] <sebsebseb> meshuggah: native Linux game or wine??????
[00:40] <meshuggah> sebsebseb, native for sure
[00:40] <Free0ne> Well, I just ran sudo visudo and added the timeout line... Welp, it screwed up sudo. I read online that since it opened it through nano and no newline was added it failed... Well here is the problem, now I can't run anything as root. I can't edit /etc/sudoers because I can't get root priviledges. Any help? :(
[00:40] <armence> LjL: thanks. I really need to get used to the idea that if I can't see something in under three seconds, it does not mean Microsoft did not see fit to put it on my system and that I have to download something
[00:41] <sebsebseb> meshuggah: ok sudo apt-get  install urbanterror  ?
[00:41] <welp> Free0ne: Poor sudo.
[00:41] <willytell> ensay, not really.
[00:41] <rogue780> meshuggah, hold on a sec
[00:41] <ensay> willytell-> then look into vnc based viewers  particularly  x11vnc
[00:41] <meshuggah> sebsebseb, it dont find it, but i am running debian lenny not ubuntu :) dont ask me what i am doing here lol :)
[00:42] <ensay> how come even as root on 8.10 i cant  delete a file with  rm -rf /mnt/filename    where perms is 444 for filename?
[00:42] <sebsebseb> meshuggah: ok  you want #debian
[00:42] <rogue780> meshuggah, http://dls.urt.voxel.net/q3ut4/UrbanTerror_41_FULL.zip
[00:42] <LjL> ensay: is that filesystem mounted read/write?
[00:42] <ensay> no extra info when  doing a getfacl on the file
[00:42] <meshuggah> rogue780, thank
[00:42] <ajehals> ensay - what is it mounted as?
[00:42] <willytell> ensay, sebsebseb thank you very much.
[00:42] <meshuggah> sebsebseb, no no i am fine here :)
[00:42] <ensay> LjL yes i mounted it as rw
[00:42] <sebsebseb> !debian
[00:42] <sebsebseb> !support
[00:42] <ensay> ajehals-> rw
[00:42] <rogue780> mesh unzip it, and one of the files "iourbanterror" i think is the one for linux
[00:42] <sebsebseb> meshuggah: yep not Debian suppourt
[00:43] <LjL> ensay: but is it? it might have been automatically mounted as ro if some problem was detected, check "mount"
[00:43] <mictor> anyone know a good a way to recover data on a ssd?
[00:43] <willytell> ensay, have you tested Ekiga?
[00:43] <sebsebseb> meshuggah: :D   what I will do next is :D
[00:43] <sebsebseb> !ot  |  meshuggah
[00:43] <LjL> !recover | mictor
[00:43] <meshuggah> lol
[00:43] <ajehals> ensay - actual device or something that could have independent r/w control (nfs server/thumb disk with a lock etc..)
[00:43] <ajehals> ensay - also can you chown/chmod it?
[00:43] <ensay> ajehals-> this is linux ext3 filesystem..
[00:43] <sahil> im having a little trouble getting my vga output to work on a dell inspiron 1525 any ideas?
[00:43] <ensay> ajehals-> cant even chmod it
[00:44] <g0tcha> anyone know whats the best way to see cpu usage durring an installation through terminal?
[00:44] <meshuggah> sebsebseb, ok ok :) do you mind if i stay there, i will stop asking question and try to only answer question ? :)
[00:44] <ajehals> ensay - a local file system?
[00:44] <vyadmin> I know what LAMP is... but I am trying to figure out how to add virtual hosts...  where are the instructions on how to do this?
[00:44] <ensay> ajehals-> local in a sense that is /dev/sdb2     here.. /dev/sdb2 on /mnt type ext3 (rw)   mount command results
[00:44] <meshuggah> sebsebseb, cause it is a little more lively here, a little..:)
[00:44] <sebsebseb> meshuggah:  if I was a mod I might boot you out ha ha :D  nah  not really since you seem ok
[00:44] <sebsebseb> meshuggah: indeed  Ubuntu has more users than Debian
[00:44] <ajehals> ensay - yeah local enough. Can you unmount it?
[00:45] <ensay> ajehals-> yeah i can manually mount and unmount /dev/sdb2
[00:45] <sar4j> @g0tcha : look at top
[00:45] <ajehals> ensay  and it makes no difference?
[00:45] <ensay> ajehals-> nope, it does not make a difference
[00:46] <sholeh> join #jakarta
[00:46] <_VIM_> id rather not
[00:46] <meshuggah> sebsebseb, i like ubuntu, but when trying debian on another partition, debian screwed the boot of ubuntu, so i didnt reinstalled ubuntu cause i lend my cd to another one.   I am doing my best to convert people to stop using windows. ;)
[00:46] <ajehals> ensay, so its not write protected media, its mounted rw, permissions are 444 and you can't chown, chmod or remove it as root?
[00:47] <sebsebseb> meshuggah: oh Grub went bad?
[00:47] <FelipeS> hey guys I'm trying to build a program from source, but it's telling me the following when running make:
[00:47] <FelipeS> cc1: warnings being treated as errors
[00:47] <FelipeS> jrb.c:554: error: ‘jrb_print_tree’ defined but not used
[00:47] <ensay> ajehals-> affirmative, thats why am stumped
[00:47] <meshuggah> sebsebseb, yes grub went bad, 2 times lol
[00:47] <Free0ne> *sigh* I have to reboot into recovery mode apparently to re-enable root and fix the sudoers file lol. bye everyone ;) <3
[00:47] <ajehals> ensay - how big is the file? can you read it?
[00:47] <g0tcha> sar4j, where at top?
[00:47] <sebsebseb> meshuggah: ok Grub can be fixed
[00:47] <meshuggah> sebsebseb, when will the new ubuntu will be ready is it april 2009?
[00:47] <Brad777> Hi is there a file like the rc.conf file in arch that has all of the daemons that autostart in ubuntu?
[00:47] <sebsebseb> meshuggah: yep April
[00:47] <_VIM_> late april no doubt
[00:48] <nightrid3r> meshuggah april 23
[00:48] <sebsebseb> meshuggah: end of April, but I will get the beta in a week or so
[00:48] <ensay> ajehals-> -r--r--r-- 1 root root 10224 Dec 29 00:41 extlinux.sys   so its fairly small, and when file extlinux.sys its says its data, binary when displayed
[00:48] <ajehals> ensay - if it's 444 you should be able to do so as your user.
[00:48] <meshuggah> sebsebseb, yes but i didnt minded, i wanted to try a few distribution
[00:48] <mmanders> So what are the major differences between Hardy and Januty (Loving Hardy on my laptop)!?
[00:48] <sebsebseb> meshuggah: Debian is 100%  free software and open source?
[00:48] <LjL> mmanders: that Jaunty is not yet released and may fry your system at any time if you use it.
[00:49] <meshuggah> sebsebseb, we can add repository to download non free
[00:49] <mmanders> LjL: lol fair enough
[00:49] <sebsebseb> mmanders: Hardy is LTS,  Jaunty  will be more cutting edege
[00:49] <sebsebseb> !lts
[00:49] <mmanders> Still, I was pleasantly surprised at how well my upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10 went!
[00:49] <meshuggah> sebsebseb, but it is "locked" standard
[00:49] <ajehals> ensay, I'd try a chmod 700 extlinux.sys again, just to be sure, but other than that, as root, I have no idea, even if it was in use you should be able to remove it... can you move/rename it?
[00:49] <Brad777> Hi is there a file like the rc.conf file in arch that has all of the daemons that autostart in ubuntu?
[00:49] <mmanders> So it's best to stick with 8.10 and maybe try 9,04 on KVM
[00:49] <sebsebseb> meshuggah: locked????
[00:49] <meshuggah> sebsebseb, debian is a little faster, but a little more complicated
[00:50] <LjL> !ot
[00:50] <sebsebseb> meshuggah: yeah I still haven't tried Debian properly after all this time
[00:50] <meshuggah> sebsebseb, not set to on by default, we need to add some line, or remove some # before some lines
[00:50] <sebsebseb> LjL: indeed
[00:50] <ensay> ajehals-> am not getting very far..it fails.. thats okay, its only a small file
[00:50] <meshuggah> sebsebseb, debian is nice, but ubuntu was easier for a newbie like me, i am using linux since less than a month and a half
[00:51] <LjL> meshuggah: can we move this to #ubuntu-offtopic please?
[00:51] <sebsebseb> meshuggah: yeah we are off topic hummmmm
[00:51] <meshuggah> LjL, sorry
[00:51] <sebsebseb> LjL: are you a mod?
[00:51] <_VIM_> you cant tell?
[00:51] <LjL> sebsebseb: no, not a mod.
[00:51] <sebsebseb> _VIM_: well Bazhang and Flannel I think, but other mods not sure who they are
[00:52] <sebsebseb> oh yeah
[00:52] <sebsebseb> Jack Sparrow
[00:52] <kattollikisd> Hello, is there is some page to download game for ubuntu 8.10 in .deb (Not getdeb pleases)
[00:52] <_VIM_> sebsebseb: you can /msg ubottu ops  and get a pretty good idea
[00:52] <jrib> !games | kattollikisd
[00:52] <Flannel> sebsebseb: this isn't the place for this conversation.  This channel is dedicated to support.  Please take it elsewhere.  If you'd like to discuss your issue with the operators, feel free to come to #ubuntu-ops, and we can talk about it.
[00:53] <ajehals> ensay - could be indicative of some issue with that media though... you could do a lsattr on the file too...
[00:53] <sebsebseb> Flannel: nah I was just wondering who the mods were that's all
[00:54] <sebsebseb> LjL: you are according  to that command
[00:54] <ensay> ajehals-> off hand you remember this ..   ----i-------------- /mnt/extlinux.sys   what does the i stood for?
[00:54] <_VIM_> you said "mod" not "op"
[00:54] <sebsebseb> _VIM_: ok what's the difference?
[00:54] <Flannel> Take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:54] <ensay> ajehals-> thats result of lsattr
[00:54] <_VIM_> anyways we're getting offtopic again *Shutting up now*
[00:54] <meshuggah> lol
[00:55] <ajehals> ensay i = immutable, chattr -i to remove it.  It effectivley makes it read only IIRC
[00:56] <ensay> ajehals-> ahh okay.. thanks
[00:56] <ajehals> ensay - wierd that its set though.
[00:56] <LjL> sebsebseb: no, according to that command, i'm an op.
[00:56] <sebsebseb> LjL: what's the difference?
[00:56] <ensay> ajehals-> yeah, and i dont recall creating that file, i usually only copy from a livecd..
[00:57] <LjL> sebsebseb: there's nothing called "mods" on irc.
[00:57] <sebsebseb> LjL: ok
[00:57] <eseven73> mods is a Forum's term
[00:57] <ajehals> ensay - preserving attributes from a system file on a liveCD during a copy then... Ah well.
[00:57] <sebsebseb> eseven73: right ok, subject droped then, since off topic
[00:58] <ensay> ajehals-> oh, is that what i was?
[00:58] <ensay> ajehals-> oh, is that what it* was?
[00:58] <ajehals> ensay - at a guess.
[00:59] <pluma> How do I tell a program I run from a true terminal (tty1-6) to use my active X session as video/audio output rather than just fail?
[00:59] <ensay> ajehals-> excellent guess.. after i chattr -i  I was able to delete
[00:59] <ensay> thanks
[00:59] <ajehals> ensay - no probs.
[00:59] <sexcopter> hi, does anyone know if it's possible to use regex or wildcards in urls with wget?
[01:00] <softwarejonas> !wget | sexcopter
[01:01] <softwarejonas> sexcopter: i dont think you can.
[01:01] <pluma> sexcopter: There's a Perl tool that does that for you.
[01:01] <a> jemand da? ICH BIN GANZ NEU HIER
[01:01] <_VIM_> !de | a
[01:02] <pluma> sexcopter: I forgot the name, sadly.
[01:02] <sexcopter> pluma: sounds interesting, i'll have a hunt, thanks
[01:03] <alex___> i just installed ubuntu netinst with awesome window manager, how can I get my mouse to work? what package am I missing?
[01:04] <softwarejonas> alex_: what is the "awesome window manager"?
[01:04] <zash> awesome!
[01:04] <zash> is awesome
[01:04] <alex___> http://awesome.naquadah.org/
[01:04] <jrib> softwarejonas: ironically, a window manager that doesn't need a mouse
[01:04] <alex___> jrib: ya, but it doesnt work
[01:05] <alex___> fluxbox is having the same problem
[01:05] <GWild> hello all - thinking of changing from my current distro to Ubuntu
[01:05] <makeitfunky> hello
[01:05] <GWild> ubuntu is modeled after Debian yes?
[01:05] <alex___> jrib: i installed cli only, apt-get installed xorg and awesome so far and thats it
[01:05] <jrib> !debian | GWild
[01:05] <alex___> wondering what package i need ( or dpkg-reconfigure step ) to get mouse support
[01:06] <mylisto> trying to figure out which version of ubuntu I have
[01:06] <mylisto> where can I find out?\
[01:06] <GWild> !kubuntu | GWild
[01:06] <jrib> alex___: does your mouse work on a regular install?
[01:06] <_VIM_> !version
[01:06] <makeitfunky> hello
[01:06] <alex___> jrib: no idea, never tried it, it's a logitech g5
[01:06] <alex___> jrib: there is usb power to it
[01:06] <jrib> alex___: try a live cd
[01:06] <mylisto> thans
[01:06] <Celeron> agggggggggggg
[01:06] <mylisto> thanks
[01:06] <makeitfunky> i have a problem to configure a sound card emu 1616m pci and alsa
[01:07] <makeitfunky> can somebody help me?
[01:07] <Celeron> afffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffferrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[01:07] <Celeron> fffffffrr5rrrrr
[01:07] <anthony> lu
[01:07] <_VIM_> Celeron: please remove the cat or toddler from your keyboard
[01:07] <_VIM_> :)
[01:07] <anthony> ?
[01:07] <makeitfunky> lu
[01:07] <laomi> ？？
[01:07] <makeitfunky>  i have a problem to configure a sound card emu 1616m pci and alsa
[01:08] <mylisto> tried this
[01:08] <mylisto> sudo apt-get install libdvdread3 gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
[01:08] <mylisto> got this
[01:08] <mylisto> sudo apt-get install libdvdread3 gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
[01:08] <Flannel> !cn | laomi
[01:08] <mylisto> Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[01:08] <mylisto>  Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[01:09] <Flannel> mylisto: You can't use two programs that deal with packages at the same time, you apparently have something else running
[01:09] <makeitfunky> mylisto close synaptic
[01:10] <mylisto> yeah...stupid synaptic
[01:10] <alex___> what's the command to dpkg-reconfigure all of xorg, including setting up the mouse?
[01:11] <jrib> alex___: that makes no sense
[01:11] <mylisto> thans
[01:11] <mylisto> thanks
[01:11] <wolf_> Im trying to mount a terrabyte hard drive as Ext3 in Ubuntu. When mounting im onwly showing 860 gb of free space, it should be around 931.51gb. Do i need to moount with some special options?
[01:12] <alex___> jrib: i remember setting up xorg in ubuntu before and it asked me much more questions, such as screen size, mouse type etc.  now it stops at keyboard input then dumps me to a shell
[01:12] <jrib> alex___: because that's done automatically now
[01:12] <makeitfunky>  i have a problem to configure a sound card emu 1616m pci and alsa
[01:13] <jrib> alex___: what exactly did you install?
[01:13] <alex___> jrib: minimal cd
[01:13] <jrib> alex___: after that
[01:13] <jilianghou> hello
[01:13] <alex___> jrib: apt-get install xorg, apt-get install awesome
[01:14] <alex___> jrib: my xorg config file is blank
[01:14] <makeitfunky> Monospace 9
[01:14] <makeitfunky> Monospace 9
[01:14] <jrib> alex___: yes, that's normal.  Like I said, the input devices are configured automatically
[01:14] <alex___> jrib: ya, it didnt get my mouse right
[01:14]  * Brad777_away is away: Gone away for now
[01:14] <makeitfunky> i try
[01:14] <_VIM_> !away > Brad777_away
[01:15] <jrib> alex___: try xserver-xorg
[01:15] <alex___> jrib: it is installed
[01:15] <jrib> alex___: did your mouse work with the live cd?
[01:15] <alex___> jrib: yes
[01:16] <bluelightningvid> Hello, I was wondering if there is video editing software compatible, or for the operating system of ubuntu?
[01:16] <nightrid3r> bluelightningvid kino
[01:17] <jrib> alex___: pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log from the install
[01:17] <nightrid3r> !medibuntu
[01:17] <rogue780> anyone here ever had a error 2 with grub?
[01:17] <makeitfunky>  i have a problem to configure a sound card emu 1616m pci and alsa
[01:17] <bluelightningvid> thanks nightrid3r
[01:19] <alex___> jrib: http://pastie.org/410594
[01:19] <lonna> hey guys what package do i need to run java appplets on web sites (i.e yahoo games etc)
[01:20] <cdm10> !java | lonna
[01:20] <lonna> ty
[01:20] <tony426> are there any font kerning things i can do in linux to improve fonts?
[01:20] <cdm10> lonna: more specifically, install sun-java6-plugin
[01:20] <ILoveXP> Yahoo Games? Seriously?
[01:20] <stealth-> is it possible to run 3d programs (such as wine) through a vnc connection?
[01:21] <mgolisch> no
[01:21] <stealth-> ugh
[01:21] <stealth-> thanks
[01:21] <jrib> alex___: your xorg.conf?
[01:21] <stealth-> anyway to get the data somewere else?
[01:21] <alex___> jrib: it's empty
[01:22] <jrib> alex___: pastebin
[01:22] <stealth-> mgolisch: what about watching :0 on a remote machine thats running a 3d program on it?
[01:22] <alex___> jrib: it's empty.. there is no xorg.conf
[01:22] <makeitfunky>  i have a problem to configure a sound card emu 1616m pci and alsa
[01:22] <ghang> hi I have a file in trash cannot delete with "empty  trash" I would like to know where is the trash folder path is so then I can manual rm -r
[01:22] <mgolisch> stealth-: that still wont do good, x11 is quite hungry on resources, it wont do good on weak links
[01:22] <makeitfunky>  i have a problem to configure a sound card emu 1616m pci and alsa. can somebody help me?
[01:23] <jrib> alex___: you're being ambiguous.  Is there an empty /etc/X11/xorg.conf or does the file not exist?
[01:23] <mgolisch> stealth-: and i have no idea about 3d stuff, i mean srsrly all stuff would have to go through the wire, i wouldnt expect any performance from that, even if it works
[01:23] <nightrid3r> makeitfunky describe your problem, then maybe someone can help
[01:23] <alex___> jrib: the file does not exist
[01:23] <Gnea> !sound | makeitfunky
[01:23] <cdm10> ghang: ~/.local/share/Trash/files
[01:23] <stealth-> mgolisch: well, the connection isnt far. just through my router to another machine
[01:23] <ghang> thanks cdm
[01:24] <makeitfunky> i have read a lot of thing
[01:24] <jrib> alex___: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:24] <stealth-> mgolisch: im trying to put my laptop by my bed so I can run a 3d program my laptop cant handle from my main system
[01:24] <mgolisch> stealth-: try it, but i think it wont work well as the software would use the localy availiable opengl libraries
[01:24] <makeitfunky> alsa is compiled for my two different soud card, but only one is detected
[01:24] <stealth-> mgolisch: okay, thanks.
[01:24] <mgolisch> you wont get more than software rendering
[01:24] <makeitfunky> when i do assound conf list i can only see one
[01:24] <rapt0rjezuz> what is a Nessus Server
[01:25] <makeitfunky> the other is ok with ls pci
[01:25] <makeitfunky> but not with asoundconf list
[01:26] <makeitfunky> and the alsa modul is compiled for the two sound card
[01:26] <makeitfunky> i've read everything i could but i cand find the solution
[01:26] <alex___> jrib: http://pastie.org/410601
[01:27] <jrib> alex___: restart X, pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[01:27] <alex___> jrib: how do i do that, im on a command line (no x running)
[01:27] <makeitfunky> ubottu so what you say now?
[01:27] <makeitfunky> Gnea???
[01:28] <makeitfunky> nightrid3r????
[01:28] <rogue780> has anyone here been able to fix a grub error 2?
[01:29] <jrib> alex___: then start X
[01:29] <makeitfunky> nobody can help me????
[01:29] <alex___> started
[01:30] <alex___> jrib: ^
[01:30] <tekteen> !patience | makeitfunky
[01:30] <jrib> alex___: and pastebin the log
[01:30] <makeitfunky> ok ok sorrry
[01:30] <sebsebseb> !ubottu
[01:31] <sebsebseb> makeitfunky: he is just a bot
[01:31] <tekteen> sebsebseb: yes, but the bot was right to say it. He is sorry to the people, not the bot that said it
[01:32] <makeitfunky> yes exactly!
[01:32] <sebsebseb> tekteen: ok well I scanned up a bit,  and saw some stuff,  so I missed most of it
[01:32] <tekteen> ok
[01:32] <tony426_>  is there a task manager for use with awn?
[01:33] <alex___> jrib: one sec
[01:33] <tashley> tony426, i actually un-installed gnome-panel and installed stalonetray
[01:34] <tashley> tony426, so all i have now is a nice neat dock at the bottom and a transparent tray at the top right :)
[01:34] <funkyHat> rogue780: this might be of use: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=151682
[01:34] <remu> Hey folks, I have an HP dv4t notebook which comes with a media remote, which works just fine under Vista, but not with Ubuntu, I don't know how or even if I can get it to work. I used to have an HP dv2700 series laptop, and the remote for that used to work just fine under Ubuntu.
[01:35] <remu> And just for additional info, the remote stuff should be the same as for HP dv5t and HP dv7t.
[01:35] <Brad777> Hi is there a file that i can edit to change which daemons start automatically on Ubuntu?
[01:35] <tekteen> Brad777: no, however the program sysv-rc-conf is useful
[01:36] <Brad777> tekteen: thank you so much :-D
[01:36] <remu> Btw, I've tried to get the codes from the remote using xev but no luck :-(
[01:38] <win2k> alright
[01:38] <Droopsta915> What is the program called that looks like device mangaer for windows?
[01:38] <Brad777> remu: this might be of some assistance http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=794493
[01:38] <TheBuzzSaw> Can anyone offer me assistance in getting my microphone to work in Ubuntu?
[01:39] <sebsebseb> !sound
[01:39] <tony426_> tashley: i have that installed now. does it work well with awn? i seemed to look tacky
[01:39] <LjL> Droopsta915: probably some interface to "lshw"
[01:39] <win2k> i have an ATI RAGE 128 Pro AGP card that I can't get 1280x1024 out of on Ubuntu 8.04
[01:39] <win2k> i like that resolution, and i'm trying to figure out how to get it in linux
[01:39] <alex___> jrib: still here?
[01:39] <Aroia> have a question. Does anyone know why i cannot put files on my x-ternal HHD?
[01:39] <LjL> !fixres | win2k
[01:39] <jrib> alex___: yes
[01:39] <tashley> tony426, it works great. it has nothing to do with AWN, but can replace the task bar very well
[01:39] <alex___> jrib: http://pastie.org/410607
[01:39] <remu> Brad777, Thanks, I'll look into it.
[01:39] <Tetracomm> Hello.
[01:40] <Tetracomm> Is there any way to use Shoutcast to boradcast from my Ubuntu machine?
[01:40] <tashley> tony426, you should read the Man page for stalonetray, put it into transparency, and put in the X-Y cords for where it should be on your desktop
[01:40] <lonna> firefox is freezing every time i open it (i just got done installing sun-java6-plugin)  im sure this could easily be fixed with a reboot, but i know the beauty of linux is that isnt needed.  what is the terminal command to kill firefox all the way, a step deeper than killall
[01:40] <tashley> tony426, looks damn sexy on mine.
[01:40] <Brad777> remu: unfortunately i don't know anything about them i just google'd :-)
[01:40] <Brad777> lonna: pkill firefox
[01:40] <tony426_> tashley: cool. i'll try it. i'm assuming it has an "always stay on top" function?
[01:41] <ILoveXP> lonna: ps -ef | grep firefox, then kill -9 <process id>
[01:41] <lonna> ILoveXP: oh yea! <3 grep
[01:41] <win2k> $ xrandr --addmode S-video 800x600
[01:41] <remu> Brad777, yeah, I don't think that applies in my case, thanks for trying though!
[01:41] <Droopsta915> Thanks, I found it, its gnome device manager
[01:42] <win2k> for that to work on VGA do I need to set s-video to VGA or something?
[01:42] <Brad777> remu: sorry... wish i could have helped more
[01:43] <remu> Brad777, its alright, it would be nice to get this remote working, but its not the end of the world
[01:43] <ILoveXP> it's the end of the world as we know it!
[01:43] <Aroia> have a question. Does anyone know why i cannot put files on my x-ternal HHD?
[01:43] <cdm10> Aroia: what happens when you try?
[01:43] <Aroia> nothing
[01:43] <Aroia> just puts the item on my desktop
[01:44] <cdm10> Aroia: how are you trying to get the files on?
[01:44] <Aroia> i can take stuff off but i cant put anything back on
[01:44] <Aroia> with /media/SimpleDrive/aaron
[01:45] <tony426_> how do you exit out of a man page? ctrl+c doesn't work
[01:45] <LjL> tony426_: q
[01:45] <tony426_> thanks
[01:45] <ILoveXP> tony426_: reboot
[01:46] <ILoveXP> Wait, this is #ubuntu, not #windows
[01:46] <ILoveXP> sorry
[01:46] <cdm10> Aroia: can you explain what exactly you're doing to get the files on? Are you dragging them into the folder for the drive?
[01:47] <Aroia> ok. im trying to get a .iso file onto my x-ternal HHD so i can put it on another pc and burn the file
[01:47] <neher> hello everybody
[01:47] <Aroia> and i am dragging the iso from my desktop into the folder
[01:47] <Aroia> but it nothing is happening
[01:47] <Aroia> i can only take files off the HHD
[01:48] <tekteen> hi neher
[01:48] <neher> does anyone here feel like being a hero for a bit, and helping me get firefox running?   Last night I ran the update manager, downloaded the updates, shut the computer down, and today firefox would not open.
[01:48] <cdm10> Aroia: does it give you an error?
[01:48] <tekteen> neher: I had that problem
[01:48] <Aroia> 10> Aroia: how are you trying to get the files on?
[01:48] <Aroia> * DDRBoxman has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
[01:48] <Aroia> * elostio (n=dotti@cpe90-146-148-207.liwe
[01:48] <ILoveXP> neher: when you run firefox from the command line, does it give any errors?
[01:48] <cdm10> neher: try opening a terminal and running firefox -SafeMode
[01:48] <Tetracomm> broadcast*
[01:48] <Aroia> no
[01:49] <alex___> jrib: any thoughts?
[01:49] <cdm10> Aroia: alright, what happens when you use cp on the command line? ( cp /path/to/file /path/to/destination )
[01:49] <sebsebseb> neher: heh a hero :d
[01:49] <cdm10> neher: or it might be firefox -safe-mode
[01:50] <brack10> Hi
[01:50] <jrib> alex___: sec (busy)
[01:50] <sebsebseb> brack10: hi
[01:50] <ILoveXP> it is firefox -safe-mode
[01:50] <neher> cdm10, when I enter "firefox -safe-mode" it says Segmentation Fault
[01:50] <brack10> I'm trying to get compiz to work on my old 8mb onboard video card..keeps telling me no driver found when I try to enable it
[01:50] <brack10> it's an intel onboard
[01:51] <brack10> that should work, right?
[01:51] <nightrid3r> brack10 wont work
[01:51] <brack10> oh ok
[01:51] <cdm10> neher: ugh :-/ that's not good. Can you run firefox -ProfileManager ?
[01:51] <brack10> intel doesn't work?
[01:51] <JGodbout> I want a movie making program, similar to Windows Movie Maker (not in the sense that it is crap, but in the way that it is easy to use, and good for making movies with music out of just pictures, and no clips). Any ideas?
[01:51] <neher> cdm10, segmentation fault again
[01:51] <nightrid3r> brack10 old hardware
[01:52] <tony426> tashley, you said you uninstalled gnome panel? is it safe?
[01:52] <nightrid3r> !compiz
[01:52] <Aroia>  cp: target `file:///home/aaron/Desktop/xpsp3_5512.080413-2113_usa_x86fre_spcd.iso/path/to/simpledrive' is not a directory
[01:52] <phaedra> brack10, you need a modern card capable of 3D operations.
[01:52] <brack10> I have an optiplex gx260
[01:52] <brack10> dell
[01:52] <brack10> it's got a 3d card
[01:52] <cdm10> neher: alright... let's try reinstalling it. run < sudo aptitude install firefox firefox-3.0 firefox-3.0-branding >
[01:52] <brack10> just small video memory
[01:53] <cdm10> neher: er, use reinstall rather than instal
[01:53] <brack10> I've found people online that say they got it to work, but I can't figure out how
[01:53] <nightrid3r> brack10 get a recent ATI or NVIDIA card
[01:53] <JGodbout> Any ideas for my question above?
[01:53] <JGodbout> Suggestions?
[01:53] <Aroia> is there a way to change a files access?
[01:54] <neer> how to choose the best server for my ubuntu os
[01:54] <neer> ?
[01:54] <sebsebseb> !best
[01:54] <Jordan_U> brack10: What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[01:54] <sebsebseb> !lamp
[01:54] <neer> I mean the  server location
[01:54] <sebsebseb> neer: but yeah Apache is about the only web server for Linux
[01:54] <jrib> alex___: google the last line, see if anything interesting pops up.  looks like something is wrong with hal
[01:55] <neher> cdm10, I reinstalled, but it still will not run
[01:55] <bazhang> neer, do you mean select the best repo to upgrade from?
[01:55] <alex___> jrib: thanks
[01:55] <arvind_khadri> neer, a country nearer to yours
[01:55] <neer> yes
[01:55] <neher> cdm10, I get the same segmentation error
[01:55] <jscinoz> can anyoen recommand a console app for downloading podcasts, preferably something that can be used with cron?
[01:55] <neer> right now I am in China
[01:55] <Aroia> ok im am admin but it is saying i dont have the wrights to move a file... why?
[01:55] <JGodbout> It's just that the things I have seen recommended, they are most for just editing movie clips. I just want one that is good for making simple video out of pictures, not movie. So maybe I should rephrase my question. What are common movie making programs for Ubuntu that are more for making video out of pictures, instead of editing movie clips?
[01:55] <cdm10> neher: try running: mv ~/.mozilla ~/.mozilla.old
[01:55] <sebsebseb> !permissions |  Aroia
[01:55] <jrib> alex___: check if hal is installed
[01:55] <neer> and my server location in the system is the "Main server"
[01:55] <bazhang> neer, the tw are very fast
[01:56] <neher> cdm10, I have tried that trick before, it did not work
[01:56] <Aroia> ty
[01:56] <neer> bazhang: what is tw?
[01:56] <sebsebseb> np
[01:56] <bazhang> neer, taiwan
[01:56] <neer> ok
[01:56] <tashley> tony426, yeah, sudo apt-get remove gnome-panel
[01:56] <neer> bazhang: I will surely try that
[01:56] <alex___> jrib: its not
[01:56] <Jordan_U> brack10: What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[01:57] <alex___> jrib: even when i go through dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, and set ctrl:swapcaps, it doesn't take
[01:57] <cdm10> neher: I really have no idea why it's not working :-/ unless anyone else has an idea, try using another browser until an update fixes it.
[01:57] <cdm10> neher: if so many people are having this same issue, perhaps they'll fix  it.
[01:57] <neer> bazhang: but there are lot of servers in tw, which one should I choose
[01:57] <jrib> alex___: one thing at a time
[01:57] <sebsebseb> neher: Firefox issues try starting over with a new profile
[01:57] <cdm10> sebsebseb: tried it
[01:58] <neer> bazhang: because last time I selected some server, and it was so slow
[01:58] <bazhang> neer, well in synaptic package manager/add remove you can select best server iirc
[01:58] <alex___> jrib: installed hal, and now the mouse works
[01:58] <melik> is there a difference between "ls" and "dir," if not which would u recommend?
[01:58] <ziroday> neer: if you go to Software Sources > Other Servers > Find the Best Server it will pick one for you
[01:58] <bazhang> neer, the main security ones will still potentially be slow however
[01:58] <cdm10> melik: they're the same, dir is an alias for ls... makes it easier for users coming from Windows/DOS
[01:58] <tashley> melik, i never even knew dir worked in linux, lol
[01:58] <sebsebseb> cdm10: ok the unoffical Ubuntu version of Firefox can screw up
[01:58] <melik> ah thanks cdm10
[01:59] <neher> cdm10, would it appear that a lot of people are having the same problem?  Do you know if there is any support for firefox that
[01:59] <neer> ziroday: I selected  the best one too..but lot of updates related with language couldn't be updated...failed
[01:59] <melik> and yeah tashley, it does haha. i used to use dir, but i just learned about ls and IMO its way better.
[01:59] <ziroday> neer: thats fine
[01:59] <neer> ziroday: lot of updates failed to hit
[01:59] <melik> color is nice :)
[01:59] <LjL> JGodbout: i don't know about one specifically made for pictures, but i do believe most of the "normal" ones could also deal with pictures...
[01:59] <bazhang> neer, but all others will be set to tw.archive etc
[01:59] <cdm10> neher: I know one other person mentioned the same issue... I know that I'm waiting a little while 'till I update.
[01:59] <LjL> JGodbout: what are you looking for, something like a slideshow?
[01:59] <JGodbout> Sort of
[01:59] <JGodbout> With like transitions
[01:59] <JGodbout> zoom in
[01:59] <JGodbout> zoom out
[01:59] <JGodbout> stuff like that
[01:59] <FloodBot2> JGodbout: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:00] <neher> cdm10, any suggestions for a browser?
[02:00] <tashley> cdm10, i upadted my ff3 without any issues. is that what you're reffering to?
[02:00] <cdm10> tashley: yep, neher's having issues with it
[02:00] <cdm10> neher: wait, forgot one thing... are there any newer updates?
[02:00] <cdm10> neher: there are lots, try Epiphany
[02:00] <tashley> cdm10, neher, i updated ff3 on three boxes, two 64bit and one 32bit without any problems
[02:01] <Jordan_U> neher: Have you tried running an fsck / re-installing firefox / downloading from mozilla.com ( the binary may be corrupted somehow )
[02:02] <tashley> Jordan_U, neher, never thought of that, good idea. but i thought that synaptic did md5 checks on updates?
[02:02] <Jordan_U> neher: Have you also tried running firefox in safe mode?
[02:02] <Jordan_U> tashley: It does, I was thinking it might have been corrupted after install ( hence why re-installing might fix it )
[02:03] <tashley> Jordan_U, gotcha
[02:03] <gotcha> tashley ?
[02:03] <neher> Jordan_U, what is the command for the fsck?
[02:03] <gotcha> sup?
[02:03] <cdm10> Jordan_U: neher has reinstalled, as well as tried in safe mode and with a blank profile... nothing :-/
[02:03] <tashley> gotcha ?
[02:03] <gotcha> You highlighted me
[02:03] <tashley> oh lol
[02:03] <tashley> i was saying "gotcha"
[02:03] <tashley> wasnt saying your nick
[02:04] <cdm10> neher: it can't be done while the OS is booted... so I'd think of that as a last resort. I doubt that's the problem. Have you checked for new updates?
[02:04] <tashley> thats like someone having the nick "install"
[02:04] <tashley> and saying sup everytime someone said install
[02:04] <tritium> !enter | tashley
[02:04] <gotcha> Not when u are a german :-)
[02:04] <neher> cdm10, this is probably relevent
[02:04] <Jordan_U> neher: Reboot into "recovery mode" ( single user mode ), it should give you a menu with doing an fsck being one of the options
[02:05] <cdm10> neher: sorry, what are you referring to?
[02:05] <neher> Jordan_U, after the updates were finished something froze, the update manager I think, so I had to do a force-quit
[02:05] <tashley> tritium, ironically i use that on others, sad to see it used on me, but i forgot to add that last part. thanks tho
[02:05] <tashley> gotcha, what does that mean in german?
[02:05] <tashley> Jordan_U, you win :)
[02:05] <Jordan_U> tashley: What do I win? :)
[02:06] <tashley> Jordan_U, im still debating on that
[02:07] <neher> cdm10, as I was saying to Jordan_U, after I did a force quit, I shut it down, then this morning the package managers were giving me errors, saying I needed to do something like reconfigure -a or something to that effect (can you guess I am still rather new to linux), then after a restart, I did something with fsck
[02:07] <cdm10> neher: oh, that is relevant
[02:07] <cdm10> neher: open a terminal and run sudo dpkg --configure -a
[02:07] <gotcha> tashley nothing, this is why I chose thbe nick back in a while
[02:08] <neher> cdm10,  nothing really happens
[02:08] <tashley> gotcha, gotcha. (see what i did there? lol)
[02:08] <TheFunkbomb> Does anyone here have experience with PPC?
[02:08] <gotcha> :D
[02:08] <jcapinc> in what directory is all the code stored for user-installed applications?
[02:08] <Jordan_U> TheFunkbomb: Try asking your question and you'll find out :)
[02:08] <tashley> TheFunkbomb, i dropped my PPC install because it didnt have flash support. That was years, ago. How is it now?
[02:08] <tarriop> can anyone tell me how to get java working in 64bit ibex? I installed sun-java6-bin and sun-java6-jre but sites with java still won't work
[02:09] <TheFunkbomb> tashley, wish I could tell you.  It couldn't find my CD rom.  Fixed that.  Now it can't find my HDD
[02:09] <neher> cdm10, I followed some instructions to get synaptic running again and all that, but the problems with firefox remain
[02:09] <jrib> tarriop: use icedtea
[02:09] <Jordan_U> tarriop: You need to install the browser plugin
[02:09] <TheFunkbomb> I think the HDD is trashed
[02:09] <glenrock> tarriop: sun-java6-plugin
[02:09] <tashley> tarriop, java works fine on my 64bit, install the mozilla plugin
[02:09] <cdm10> neher: can go go to Synaptic , and go to Edit>Fix Broken PAckages?
[02:09] <jrib> glenrock: doesn't exist on amd64
[02:09] <tarriop> ah, thanks guys
[02:09] <glenrock> ahh, thanks jrib
[02:10] <tashley> cdm10, ive never had to fix broken packages before, this is new to me :)
[02:10] <jcapinc> in what directory is all the code stored for user-installed applications?
[02:10] <tashley> jcapinc, /usr/bin
[02:10] <cdm10> tashley: it makes sure all the dependencies are satisfied.
[02:10] <tarriop> jrib, so i should install the icedtea plugin?
[02:10] <tashley> tarriop, icedtea is nice, yes :)
[02:10] <jrib> tashley: yeah, that should work ok
[02:10] <jrib> erm, tarriop
[02:10] <jcapinc> tashley, thats where the executables are, but not all the code
[02:10] <tarriop> great, thakns
[02:11] <tashley> jcapinc, oh i read your q wrong. sorry
[02:11] <jrib> jcapinc: what makes you think such a directory exists?
[02:11] <jrib> !source > jcapinc
[02:11] <jcapinc> tashley, np, thanks for the effort
[02:11] <Marsol0> Is there a way to force a driver to load at startup? Or unload and reload?
[02:11] <TheFunkbomb> I think I'm just gonna drop the mac off at the dump lol
[02:11] <stealth-> ugh. Im trying to log into my kubuntu machine remotely through vnc, but the kde desktop sharing program asks my connecting client for a password, and I dont know what it is :|. Any help?
[02:12] <jcapinc> jrib, the code has to be somewhere, and I figure ubuntu would have one file for it
[02:12] <tashley> TheFunkbomb, i still have mine :(
[02:12] <TheFunkbomb> tashley, I can't get it to run the partitioner
[02:12] <jrib> jcapinc: see ubottu
[02:12] <tashley> TheFunkbomb, weird.
[02:12] <TheFunkbomb> tashley, it asks for the driver and depending on which one I pick, it allows me to do certain things
[02:13] <neher> cdm10, nothing much happened with the "fix broken packages"
[02:13] <tarriop> gedit
[02:13] <TheFunkbomb> sometimes I can get to the partitioner but it says the partitions are too small to work with
[02:13] <tashley> TheFunkbomb, what ver?
[02:13] <tarriop> oops
[02:13] <TheFunkbomb> g4
[02:13]  * tashley claps for tarriop 
[02:13] <TheFunkbomb> I picked it out of the dump
[02:13] <fjas> hi
[02:13] <TheFunkbomb> I think next weekend it's heading right back to the dump
[02:13] <TheFunkbomb> although, I do have to say the case is awesome.
[02:13] <cdm10> neher: ugh :-/ I really don't know what's going on then.
[02:13] <tashley> TheFunkbomb, still hanging onto mine. Maybe PPC will come through in the end :)
[02:13] <tarriop> jrib, i'm getting this: icedtea-gcjwebplugin: Depends: icedtea6-plugin but it is not going to be installed E: Broken packages
[02:14] <jrib> tarriop: pastebin your sources.list
[02:14] <TheFunkbomb> I'm wondering if I could put a PC ATX board in the mac case
[02:14] <tashley> TheFunkbomb, lol! whats the point?
[02:14] <neher> cdm10, do you know how I can check for problems with my HD?  My instincts tell me that I may have some corrupted sectors or something to that effect
[02:14] <evilGUI> How would I undo these commands? sudo groupadd -g 5000 vmail and sudo useradd -m -u 5000 -g 5000 -s /bin/bash vmail ?
[02:14] <TheFunkbomb> I just think the case is cool tashley
[02:14] <TheFunkbomb> how it flips down
[02:14] <tashley> TheFunkbomb, you could theme out ubuntu to look exactly like OSX
[02:14] <jcapinc> how well do makes work w/ linux?  I figure as good or better than the average PC, mac's based on FreeBSD
[02:15] <tashley> TheFunkbomb, sounds like a neat idea actually :)
[02:15] <TheFunkbomb> tashley, that's a cool idea
[02:15] <joetromondo> hi, how do I mount my ntfs drives and keep them on startup?
[02:15] <tarriop> jrib, http://pastebin.com/m591e7884
[02:15] <TheFunkbomb> Then I can be like one of those mac fanboys except cooler
[02:15] <cdm10> neher: I doubt that's the issue... but I think it has something to do with the command "badblocks." Don't take my word for it, though... see if someone else knows.
[02:15] <TheFunkbomb> and likable
[02:15] <jcapinc> joetromondo, look up the commands to mount the ntfs drive then open your session manager and add that command as a start-up command
[02:15] <chilli0> Hey, im trying to connet to a windblows computer in network would the domain be the Workgroup?
[02:16] <chilli0> its not working im trying every thing
[02:16] <neher> cdm10, yes, something about that came up after I restarted, I was getting some errors about badblocks etc.   Ugh, I hate being so vague and all about this, feeling dumb about it.
[02:16] <lokoabreu> hello.. yesterday i install xubuntu-desktop.. i didnt like it so today i did apt-get remove xubuntu-desktop but seems that is not working for me.. because the log in screen is xubuntu and not ubuntu. how can i remove everything of xubuntu??
[02:17] <cdm10> neher: hey, at this kinda stuff, I'm a total noob, so don't feel too bad :)
[02:18] <tashley> lokoabreu, i dont really know, but it does sound like the GDM for xubuntu is still installed
[02:18] <tashley> lokoabreu, after you login is it gnome or XFCE?
[02:19] <jrib> tarriop: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install icedtea6-plugin      on pastebin
[02:19] <zash> lokoabreu: sounds like you still have the xubuntu theme for gdm
[02:19] <rww> lokoabreu: what were you using before? Ubuntu/GNOME?
[02:19] <tashley> zash, so i was right about the GDM? lol
[02:19] <tarriop> jrib, I just tried it again and it worked... weird?
[02:20] <neher> cdm10, thanks for trying.  ANYONE ELSE does anyone here feel like being a hero for a bit, and helping me get firefox running?   Last night I ran the update manager, downloaded the updates, shut the computer down, and today firefox would not open.
[02:20] <funkyHat> chilli0: there's probably not a domain at all, try setting the workgroup to either workgroup or mshome
[02:20] <zash> tashley: yep
[02:20] <jimi_hendrix> command to add a user to wheel?
[02:20] <jrib> tarriop: jrib's magic touch
[02:20] <chilli0> i tryed ms home
[02:20] <tarriop> jrib, haha
[02:20] <ajehals> neher - what have you tried so far?
[02:20] <tashley> jrib can touch me anytime then
[02:20] <funkyHat> chilli0: or look at my computer properties on the windows machine to see what workgroup it's actually in
[02:20] <jrib> jimi_hendrix: you probably want some other group.  What do you want to do exactly?
[02:20] <jimi_hendrix> add a user to sudoers
[02:21] <chilli0> funkyHat:  would it not work if i wasnt in the same work group , the work group of his is MShome mine is workgroup
[02:21] <rww> jimi_hendrix: sudo usermod -aG admin USERNAMEHERE
[02:21] <jrib> jimi_hendrix: it's the "admin" group you want in ubuntu
[02:21] <jimi_hendrix> ok
[02:22] <funkyHat> chilli0: I'm not sure, it's probably most likely to work if they both have the same workgroup
[02:22] <chilli0> k
[02:22] <chilli0> how do i change the work group on this?
[02:22] <neher> ajehals, I tried reinstalling firefox, I tried fixing broken packages (as earlier I was having some problems with package manager), basically trying to run any firefox related stuff in the terminal gives me a segmentation error
[02:22] <Lando-SpacePimp> Show me your moves!!!
[02:23] <lokoabreu> rww: i was using ubuntu/gnome
[02:23] <lokoabreu> zash: yeah it seems like that how can i remove it?
[02:23] <Lando-SpacePimp> lokoabreu: Show me your moves!!!
[02:23] <Lando-SpacePimp> zash: Reboot
[02:24] <rww> lokoabreu: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome
[02:24] <kushalone> are we supposed to personally use / ignore commands or kick naggers?
[02:24] <lokoabreu> tashley: after i login is gnome, but xubuntu appears as the login screen
[02:24] <ajehals> neher - what I would do is can you drop the output from the terminal into a pastebin?  also move yor .mozila folder in your home directory somewhere safe for the time being (rename it to .mozilla.old or something... whilst you work on it to ensure your settings/bookmarks remain in one piece
[02:24] <lokoabreu> rww: thanks
[02:24] <bruce89> lokoabreu: you can change the GDM theme
[02:25] <bruce89> lokoabreu: System>Admin.>Login Screen
[02:25] <tashley> lokoabreu, yeah then its definitely the GDM (login theme)
[02:26] <vyadmin> i am trying to setup a local apache web server just so I can develope with drupal.  but I can not figure out how to change and add local virtual hosts.  is there a trick?
[02:27] <neher> ajehals, I am really new to this business, can you kind of go step by step with me, sorry
[02:27] <ajehals> neher - sure.
[02:27] <ajehals> neher - first off open a terminal window.
[02:27] <ogre_> i just get static when audio is supposed to be playing. how can i check to see what the problem is?
[02:27] <Dreamglider> Can anyone tell me how i could salvage some data on a 60Gb NTFS partition where some 40Gb of data had been written on it (The data has been written from the very beginning of the partition out to about 40Gb)
[02:28] <tekteen> ogre_: I had that at one point. It was my sound card :-(
[02:28] <neher> ajehals, yeah, that's open
[02:28] <ajehals> neher - then as your normal user type 'mv .mozilla .mozillaold' - this essentially moves your firefox settings out of harms way, we will move it back once firefox works.
[02:28] <ogre_> tekteen,  ouch, its a laptop
[02:28] <tekteen> Dreamglider: what happened to it?
[02:29] <tekteen> ogre_: my mom's old windows machine had issues. We narrowed it down to the sound card as the prob
[02:29] <Dreamglider> tekteen, i dd'd is and messed up on the soure destination
[02:29] <Dreamglider> source*
[02:29] <Dreamglider> is-it
[02:29] <jeeves> is there a way to import a meeting invite into evoulation from an e-mail that was sent from outlook?
[02:29] <tekteen> Dreamglider: so you used dd to do what?
[02:29] <neher> ajehals, I have moved it already, so I think that's cool
[02:30] <ConstantineXVI> Does Ubuntu have any sort of 'graceful' panic screen (sorta like OS X?)
[02:30] <bruce89> Dreamglider: it's likely to be knackered
[02:30] <sparta00> wii
[02:30] <Aroia> can someone tell a noob how to change file permissions?
[02:30] <Dr_willis_AAO> OS-X panic? But its perfect?
[02:30] <Dreamglider> tekteen, the ntfs is 60Gb after that there was a ext3 of about 15Gb which i managed to save (the Ubuntu installation im on now :) )
[02:30] <usser> Aroia, chmod
[02:30]  * bruce89 has never seen a Ubuntu kernel panic
[02:30] <Dr_willis_AAO> !chmod
[02:30] <tekteen> Aroia: cli?
[02:31] <Dreamglider> tekteen, i saw gone clone a disk
[02:31] <lokoabreu> but it seems that is for people who remove gnome and install xubuntu instead..
[02:31] <Dreamglider> gona*
[02:31] <Aroia> xubuntu
[02:31] <lokoabreu> because its installing gnome-desktop all over again
[02:31] <lokoabreu> i dont know if thats what i need
[02:31] <anatashinu> Hi I need some help changing the controls with xpad, please
[02:31] <ajehals> neher - OK, if you could start firefox from the terminal window with the -safe-mode flag and tell me what you see - if there is a lot of text drop it into a pastebin (http://pastebin.com/) and give me the url of your post
[02:31] <tekteen> Dreamglider: you tried to clone a disk and did what? I am sorry that I do not understand
[02:32] <jeeves> is there a way to import a meeting invite into evoulation from an e-mail that was sent from outlook?
[02:32] <bruce89> jeeves: should be automatic
[02:32] <ajehals> neher - to start firefox in safe mode, simply type firefox -safe-mode
[02:32] <neher> ajehals, I get an error, Segmentation Falut
[02:33] <jeeves> bruce89, I have the e-mails where I've been invited, and it dosen't work.  is there a setting I should check?
[02:33] <bruce89> don't think so
[02:33] <neher> ajehals, segmetation fault*
[02:33] <xavier2677> real quick,  what would cause a usb drive that has been loaded with the usb boot from ubuntu 8.10 to read, error with partition?  second time i have formated and loaded it with it? can anyone help
[02:33] <ajehals> neher - is that literally all the output you are getting? nothing else at all?
[02:33] <Dreamglider> tekteen, i did a dd if=/dev/sdb of=/dev/sda to clone a disk right? And messed up on the sda and sdb part and copied 40Gb of a new empty drive to the drive i was gona clone. (is this better, Sry but my native language is not English)
[02:33] <bruce89> jeeves: what does the e-mail look like in evo?
[02:33] <chilli0> why cant i get onto anything? im trying to get into network but  i cant it wont log in i have to correct password
[02:33] <chilli0> but not workin
[02:34] <bruce89> Dreamglider: there's not much you can do with that
[02:34] <anatashinu> Does anybody know how to get xpad to work better? I need to be able to get the cursor to everywhere in the screen as well as change the controls
[02:34] <neher> ajehals, it only says Segmentation fault
[02:34] <jeeves> bruce89, it's an attachment called winmail.dat
[02:34] <bruce89> Dreamglider: you could try photorec
[02:34] <tekteen> Dreamglider: yeah, now I understand
[02:34] <Aroia> can someone explain how to change file permissions so i can move a file?
[02:34] <bruce89> jeeves: must be some new fangled thing
[02:34] <tekteen> Dreamglider: you can not get anything from the first 40GB of the disk
[02:35] <jeeves> bruce89, yea, it came from 2007
[02:35] <chilli0> brb
[02:35] <tekteen> Dreamglider: unlike a normal delete, this actually made your disk zeroed out
[02:35] <Dr_willis_AAO> Aroia,  details?
[02:35] <bruce89> jeeves: another example of non-free formats being bad
[02:35] <jeeves> bruce89, lol, I know, but I'm the "odd ball" in the office, so I have to "conform"
[02:35] <Dr_willis_AAO> Aroia,  use the chmod command properly .. is the normal way
[02:35] <Dreamglider> tekteen, yea i know that, i was thinking about the last 20Gb of the partition whitch should be there
[02:36] <tekteen> Dreamglider: you can use programs like photorec to try to recover data from there
[02:36] <ajehals> neher - OK, you say you already re-installed firefox, so lets not do that again just yet, - do you happen to know if you have 'scim' installed?
[02:36] <Aroia> trying to move an iso file onto a x-ternal HHD but i cant move it cuzs is read only
[02:36] <joetromondo> Hi
[02:36] <joetromondo> how do I list my NTFS partitions
[02:36] <Aroia> im a noob and dont know commands
[02:36] <bruce89> jeeves: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution/+bug/247396
[02:36] <Dr_willis_AAO> Aroia,  is it READ only or it it just not write accessable by the user.. You could try to copy it over as root.
[02:36] <Dr_willis_AAO> Aroia,  sudo cp whatever /media/whever
[02:37] <ajehals> neher - or rather whether you are using multi language input wih your account?
[02:37] <SnoFox> Woo.
[02:37] <SnoFox> Where are the Kernel headers located in Jaunty?
[02:37] <bruce89> jeeves: install evolution-plugins-experimental, then activate the tnef-attachment plugin
[02:37] <_VIM_> !jaunty | SnoFox
[02:38] <SnoFox> -.-
[02:38] <bruce89> SnoFox: the usual place
[02:38] <SnoFox> bruce89: And I don't know where that is. :p
[02:38] <bruce89> /usr/include/linux
[02:38] <SnoFox> Ooh. Okay.
[02:39] <SnoFox> Thank you. :)
[02:39] <neher> ajehals, I don't know anything about scim
[02:39] <jeeves> bruce89, thanks.  doing it now
[02:39] <Dreamglider> tekteen, i know the NFTS begins at the very beginning of the disk and goes out to 60Gb CHS 7648-254-63 (Where the EXT3 stars at 7649-0-1)
[02:40] <rabbit_ubuntu> Hey guys
[02:40] <rabbit_ubuntu> Gnight all
[02:40] <bruce89> Dreamglider: you've written 40 GB of stuff on top of your disk, nothing can be done to sort it
[02:40] <jeeves> bruce89, I SERIOUSLY hope this works
[02:40] <sebsebseb> rabbit_ubuntu: Hi girl
[02:40] <tekteen> Dreamglider: there are some programs online. photorec can find your photos. There are also other programs out there. I do not remember any of them
[02:40] <ajehals> neher - and you are not using any of ubuntu's alternate language support?
[02:41] <neher> ajehals, not that I know about
[02:41] <jeeves> bruce89, nope, still not seeing it
[02:41] <rabbit_ubuntu> Having a slight problem at the moment. Other than the fact that I was just called a girl...(-__ -"). Whenever I play a .mov file in Movie Player, I get no sound
[02:41] <rabbit_ubuntu> sebsebseb: Ay friend lol
[02:41] <rabbit_ubuntu> Im pretty sure sound should be there, can anyone issue a diagnosis?
[02:41] <bruce89> jeeves: hmm
[02:41] <sebsebseb> rabbit_ubuntu: ha ha yeah I know your probaby not a girl, but  put that anyway :)
[02:42] <Aroia> Dr_willis_AAQ can i you type it up for me? idk it is supposed to look... file is xpiso and it is going to simpledrive
[02:42] <bruce89> rabbit_ubuntu: nothing wrong with rabbits
[02:42] <rabbit_ubuntu> sebsebseb: lol, Im no bunny. Just a Rabbit
[02:42] <rabbit_ubuntu> lol
[02:42] <steveo> hello people
[02:42] <Dreamglider> bruce89, i wish to think otherwise, i wrote 40Gb from the very first sector out to 40Gb, so the remaining 20Gb of data should be there
[02:42] <jeeves> bruce89, normally, I wouldn't care, but this is for work
[02:42] <steveo> can anyone help me out with getting wvm formats working on my ubuntu 8.10? I've read and followed everything about it and still no go
[02:42] <ajehals> neher - OK in your terminal again, I'd like you to type 'mkdir firefox-temp' hit return, and then 'firefox -profile firefox-temp' and tell me what happens.
[02:42] <bruce89> Dreamglider: whatever was on the last 20 GB will still be there
[02:42] <Dr_willis_AAO> Aroia,  i got other things going on.. you know the basics.. sudo cp , its worth learning some bash basics. spoend an 1/2 hr reading some bash tutorials
[02:43] <sebsebseb> rabbit_ubuntu: ,but you woudn't expect a guy to put a name such as  rabbit_ubuntu as for sound well  have you triend another player?
[02:43] <rabbit_ubuntu> steveo: Download VLC
[02:43] <sebsebseb> steveo: yes  that's easy
[02:43] <steveo> ive downloaded the win32 codecs, libdvd, installed VLC, totem, xine, mplayer and nothing
[02:43] <bruce89> jeeves: you did restart evolution I assume
[02:43] <steveo> still no go :(
[02:43] <sebsebseb> steveo: you can get wmv and  avi and all that propritary stuff suppourt by:  sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[02:44] <Dreamglider> tekteen what was that program u mentioned again ?
[02:44] <steveo> sebsebseb : ive done that too but still no go
[02:44] <jeeves> bruce89, yes
[02:44] <rabbit_ubuntu> sebsebseb: Rabbit vs Bunny. I;d expect bunny to be female. And I have tried VLC but it doesn't support it.
[02:44] <steveo> sebsebseb : i'll try it again gimme a tic
[02:44] <RoastedTiresX> Question - if I have an rsync script to synchronize my home directory on drive A to be synced to drive B, and drive B fails during the night and the next morning I run my rsync script, what happens? Some people are telling me that data would try to get written to my root partition. Other people are telling me it would simply fail the process. What happens if I try to rsync to a drive that is dead and I dont know it?
[02:44] <tekteen> Dreamglider: photorec finds pictures
[02:44] <bruce89> rabbit_ubuntu: which sound codec is it?
[02:44] <rabbit_ubuntu> steveo: Have you restarted?
[02:44] <sebsebseb> rabbit_ubuntu: what about Banshee?
[02:44] <steveo> sebsebseb : The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required
[02:44] <bruce89> Dreamglider: or anything else
[02:45] <bruce89> sebsebseb: no difference, they both use gstreamer
[02:45] <rabbit_ubuntu> sebsebseb: Its a video
[02:45] <steveo> rabbit_ubuntu : yep restarted it and all but nothing yet
[02:45] <sebsebseb> !multimedia
[02:45] <rabbit_ubuntu> sebsebseb: Banshee plays videos?
[02:45] <sebsebseb> heh that one needs updating
[02:45] <rabbit_ubuntu> steveo: Remove the repos and install them again
[02:45] <Zap> oi
[02:45] <rabbit_ubuntu> steveo: Then restart
[02:45] <Zap> tem algum brasileiro?
[02:45] <Aroia> can someone tell me how to type up a sudo? im trying to move a file to my x-ternal HHD
[02:45] <rabbit_ubuntu> sebsebseb: Its Quicktime video
[02:45] <neher> ajehals, Sementation fault
[02:45] <anatashinu> hello? can somebody PLEASE help me with xpad?
[02:46] <bluelightningvid> Hello, does anyone know of a screen recorder for ubuntu?
[02:46] <Zap> i'm brazilian...
[02:46] <Dreamglider> bruce89, come again ?
[02:46] <steveo> rabbit_ubuntu : which ones should i reinstall?
[02:46] <tekteen> Dreamglider: photorec can find these files http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/File_Formats_Recovered_By_PhotoRec
[02:46] <ajehals> neher - Ok, so the problem really is with firefox and not your profile....
[02:46] <Sylphid> could anyone recommend a terminal emulator similar to konsole but lighter on memory
[02:46] <torc> is there a username/password for the liveCD? because that's where I'm stuck at
[02:46] <rabbit_ubuntu> bruce89: Its Quicktime
[02:46] <tekteen> Sylphid: for gnome?
[02:46] <bruce89> Dreamglider: photorec recovers most files
[02:46] <JPSman> How do I access my various GTK+ 2 themes?
[02:47] <sebsebseb> rabbit_ubuntu: ok  mplayer can  do  like everything, once you got the codecs
[02:47] <rabbit_ubuntu> steveo: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[02:47] <unop> RoastedTiresX, rsync would fail - obviously. data wouldn't get written anywhere else.
[02:47] <tekteen> Sylphid: xterm is a light one
[02:47] <bruce89> rabbit_ubuntu: that's a container
[02:47] <Dreamglider> Allright ill give it a spinn see what i can find
[02:47] <bruce89> steveo: don't install that
[02:47] <rabbit_ubuntu> bruce89: Oh...Well I suppose Im not sure how to answer that then :S
[02:47] <neher> ajehals, I googled my symptoms and I think I may have cfound something worthwhile, and it does have to do with scim
[02:47] <Sylphid> tekteen, either gnome or no dependencies
[02:48] <sebsebseb> bruce89: don't install that why?  that's the easiest way to get the propritary stuff
[02:48] <rabbit_ubuntu> sebsebseb: So I should try getting ALL the codecs from synaptic?
[02:48] <bruce89> rabbit_ubuntu: that package depends on non-free things I don't like
[02:48] <ajehals> neher.  Lets try reinstalling it again: if you could, in your terminal, type 'sudo dpkg --purge firefox' that should remove firefox and all it's configuration files.
[02:48] <Sylphid> tekteen, im looking for an emulator that supports tabs
[02:48] <tekteen> Sylphid: gnome-terminal is for gnome
[02:48] <molly> hi no wht im hAVING TROUBEL DOWNLOADING THUNDERBIRD IS IT COMPATABLE WITH UBUNT?
[02:48] <bruce89> and it makes no difference codec-wise
[02:48] <JPSman> I geuss, my GTK theme engines?
[02:48] <sebsebseb> rabbit_ubuntu: you did ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[02:48] <Sylphid> multi-aterm didnt look bad but the tabs didnt work well
[02:48] <rabbit_ubuntu> bruce89: lol, Well what would you suggest?
[02:48] <bruce89> !shout | molly
[02:48] <RoastedTiresX> unop - The thing that is scaring me is these people on the forums are telling me that rsync would try to re-route the data to another source, which the first one to try would be my root partition. But my root partition is 20gb and my data is 175gb+, so we'd have a serious problem by maxing out my root partition...
[02:49] <rabbit_ubuntu> sebsebseb: I believe I had to do that for Vbox at one point
[02:49] <ajehals> neher - there is a problem with scim and firefox - but If you are not using alternate inputs it shouldn't be a problem.  If you think you are, then this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=556321 deals with it.
[02:49] <steveo> bruce89 : why not?
[02:49] <torc> is there a username/password for the liveCD? because that's where I'm stuck at
[02:49] <Sylphid> tekteen, gnome-terminal is heavier on memory than knosole
[02:49] <bruce89> steveo: I don't like it
[02:49] <ajehals> s/is/has been
[02:49] <tekteen> Sylphid: I do not know one with tabs
[02:49] <tekteen> molly: sudo apt-get install thunderbird
[02:49] <unop> RoastedTiresX, that's nonsense - if rsync fails at writing data to the intended destination, it will just stop writing and return an error status to its parent process.
[02:50] <RoastedTiresX> unop - even if crontab is controlling rsync to start?
[02:50] <rabbit_ubuntu> sebsebseb: And I just did it, and it told me I already have it. So yeah
[02:50] <bruce89> rabbit_ubuntu: I don't know because I don't know what codecs are used
[02:50] <steveo> ok done
[02:50] <steveo> i'll let ya know
[02:50] <steveo> after reboot
[02:50] <rabbit_ubuntu> steveo: Alrighty
[02:50] <rabbit_ubuntu> bruce89: hmm....
[02:51] <unop> RoastedTiresX, this process of writing data to devices is controlled by the kernel - it wouldn't make sense for the kernel to just start writing data to random unintended places, it would make it unusable for most realistic cases (and that is not the case).
[02:51] <rabbit_ubuntu> bruce89: How would I be able to find that out though? Referring to the type of codecs in the video
[02:51] <RoastedTiresX> unop - Not that I don't believe you, but I think it's time I conduct my own little experiment where I unplug my drive and run rsync.
[02:51] <torc> Does the LiveCD have a username/password?
[02:51] <unop> RoastedTiresX, it doesn't matter where rsync is run from. if it fails, it just fails.  no magic happens.
[02:51] <bruce89> rabbit_ubuntu: indeed, that's the snag
[02:51] <Amara_Emerson> strange thing, when using the latest 8.10 live CD, sound works with pulseaudio i guess. Sound preferences show autodetect x3 and alsa. default sound card chosen
[02:52] <sebsebseb> !livecd
[02:52] <sebsebseb> !password
[02:52] <Flannel> torc: the username is ubuntu, the password is blank.  You shouldn't need to log in when you boot it though.  If you do, it may be a bad burn.
[02:52] <RoastedTiresX> unop - thanks for your time. I just have to see this for myself so I can post back to forums to prove them wrong if what I think is going to happen indeed happens
[02:52] <bruce89> rabbit_ubuntu: nothing in the media bit in nautilus's properties thingy
[02:52] <Amara_Emerson> i installed 8.10, updated system which updated pulseaudio and no sound
[02:52] <JPSman> is there some kind of GUI involved with my GTK2+ theme engines that I dont know about?
[02:52] <molly> sorry about yelling did not no caps lock was onI
[02:52] <torc> Flannel: interesting. I was getting some weird Buffer I/O errors and stuff, but it finally got around to the login screen. Should I just re-burn then? at slow speed or something?
[02:53] <rabbit_ubuntu> bruce89: I shall check
[02:53] <rabbit_ubuntu> bruce89: Aha! Apple Graphics (SMC)
[02:54] <_jet__> Hi, how can I share my internet connexion with a zaurus over USB ?
[02:54] <r33tfux0r> Greetings!  I'm looking for help on how I can access 16:10 resolutions in 8.10 running Intel865G chipset.  The very first time i booted after installing it did work correctly but ever since all the 16:10 resolutions are gone.  I checked the xorg.conf and it looks practically empty compared to earlier versions of X.  I cant seem to find 915resolution or the other tools I had used in the past either.  Any help would be  greatly appreciate
[02:54] <r33tfux0r> d =)
[02:54] <nightrid3r> molly thunderbird is compatible with ubuntu and can be installed useing synaptic
[02:54] <bruce89> rabbit_ubuntu: no wonder, they'll be no chance
[02:54] <Flannel> torc: When you first boot, choose the verify the integrity of the CD option, see if that works out.
[02:54] <bruce89> some weird anchient nonsense
[02:55] <rabbit_ubuntu> bruce89: Yikes
[02:55] <neher> ajehals, I do have scim installed, is that a problem?
[02:55] <rabbit_ubuntu> bruce89: Any specific reason for that?
[02:56] <The-Compiler> Hi there, I have a server and want to collect mails and forward them to another mail adress, I installed postfix and put "compiler: my@email.foo" in my /etc/aliases. Now if I do "mail compiler" I get it on my mail adress, but if I send mail to compiler@myserver.foo it doesn't do anything, any ideas?
[02:56] <MHz128> hello world!
[02:56] <mezy> whats the thing the controls volume leves?
[02:56] <bruce89> rabbit_ubuntu: I've never heard of that codec
[02:56] <bob9281988> hello all
[02:57] <sebsebseb> bob9281988: hey
[02:57] <sebsebseb> MHz128: hello
[02:57] <MHz128> I am looking for an 'everything' disc, something similar to what Fedora has...does Ubuntu have one? ie. kde + gnome + all packages
[02:57] <bob9281988> can i ask a question
[02:57] <rabbit_ubuntu> bruce89: Ahh...Of course not. I have been royally rayped it would seem
[02:57] <MHz128> bob9281988, hurry up
[02:57] <nightrid3r> MHz128 that would be around 5 DVD's
[02:57] <sebsebseb> MHz128: no, but it's pretty easy to install  KDE and  Gnome and XFCE and loads of good programs,  in one installation
[02:57] <lonna> just picked up a new dell studio 17 laptop.  this is NOT an ubuntu edition.  first thing i did was wipe the drive clean and am now running 8.10.  issue is that theres 2 headphones jacks.  plug into one, and sound works for both speakers and headphones, plug into other and there isnt sound for either. ideas?
[02:57] <bruce89> bob9281988: !ask
[02:57] <shawn-p> hello.  I am doing "sudo apt-get install build-essential",  Ubuntu is prompting me to insert the Ubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon CD. I don't have the CD handy.  Can it somehow just download what it needs?
[02:58] <bob9281988> how would i uninstall mysql apache and php5 form terminal
[02:58] <MHz128> sebsebseb, oh ok. are there 're-spins'?
[02:58] <torc> Flannel: the ISO MD5 matched up. Is there a way I can do the CD integrity check from the grub boot screen? I'm not getting that option right now.
[02:58] <ajehals> neher - it seems to have been in Hardy and Gutsy, I can't find a reference to it having been fixed.  If so, there are instructions on how to sort it out on the page that details the problem.
[02:58] <sebsebseb> MHz128: no you install one,  and then can have the others just like that to
[02:58] <bruce89> shawn-p: Software sources -> untick the CD thing
[02:58] <MHz128> sebsebseb, 10 4, thanks
[02:58] <rabbit_ubuntu> bruce89: I'll try playing it in my virtual machine. See what happens there. Speaking of which, would you OR ANYONE know how to make a folder shared? SO I can access that folder from the vbox?
[02:58] <sebsebseb> MHz128: 10 4  what?
[02:58] <ajehals> shawn-p - remove the line that references the CD from /etc/apt/sources.list of do what bruce89 said...
[02:59] <tpw_rules> hi
[02:59] <sebsebseb> MHz128: only thing is you can't have KDE3 just like that in Intrepid Ibex 8.10  :(   only KDE4 hum
[02:59] <lonna> !oss
[02:59] <lonna> !alsa
[02:59] <bruce89> that's a more interesting way to do it
[02:59] <ajehals> neher - those instructions are here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=757070 if they seem to appy, give it a go.
[02:59] <bob9281988> how would i uninstall mysql apache and php5 form terminal
[02:59] <Sylphid> tekteen, i think i found my winner  ..... mrxvt
[02:59] <sebsebseb> MHz128: actsaulyl you can have KDE3, but I am not sure about having both KDE3 and 4 in Intrepid Ibex 8.10
[03:00] <shawn-p> bruce89 / ajehals: thank you!
[03:00] <gnrfan> anyone trying out the HP MiniMI GUI in Intrepid? I did.. glassy-bleu theme + backgrounds + font works but I don't know in which package(s) comes the initial fullscreen app launcher..
[03:00] <tpw_rules> i just upgraded to kernel 2.6.24-23 on my acer aspire one, along with a bunch of other updates, and now it continually spews error messages to the console. in recovery mode it panics because it tried to kill init
[03:00] <sebsebseb> MHz128: sudo aptitude install  xubuntu-desktop   for example for XFCE :)
[03:00] <papapep> bob9281988: sudo aptitude remove (or purge, depending what you want) package_name
[03:01] <bob9281988> thak you
[03:01]  * bruce89 is pleased to see aptitude
[03:01] <bob9281988> •papapep• thank you
[03:01] <papapep> ;)
[03:01] <bob9281988> :)
[03:01] <ILoveXP> apt-get is better
[03:01] <RoastedTiresX> unop - you still here?
[03:01] <bruce89> ILoveXP: I wonder why
[03:01] <sebsebseb> !apt
[03:01] <sebsebseb> !aptitude
[03:02] <bob9281988> i looked all over google no luck there
[03:02] <bob9281988> :/
[03:02] <torc> I'm also having a Ethernet issue with another PC. It refuses to connect to the network using a LAN cable. Cable is fine, hardware is fine (both work in windows).
[03:03] <MHz128> sebsebseb, 10 4 means 'ok' in radio slang... hehe
[03:03] <sebsebseb> MHz128: 10 4
[03:05] <tpw_rules> i just upgraded to kernel 2.6.24-23 on my acer aspire one, along with a bunch of other updates, and now it continually spews error messages to the console. in recovery mode it panics because it tried to kill init
[03:06] <tpw_rules> it boots fine with other kernels
[03:06] <H3l1c0pt3r> I have a problem with my wifi, when i use WPA or WPA2 encryption, my connection cuts out frequently and reconnects, if i use WEP, it is fairly stable but the connection is usually less than %50, in hardy heron i used WPA/WPA2 and it was almost always 100% and worked perfect. is this a bug? will it be fixed soon?
[03:06] <tritium> tpw_rules: can you boot successfully into earlier kernels?
[03:07] <neher> ajehals, I just followed those directions, so I'll restart, and get back to you if its still screwy
[03:08] <tpw_rules> tritium: yes
[03:09] <tritium> tpw_rules: ok, good
[03:09] <sam_> I need some help with my iPod. In the middle of updating, my computer hiccuped, causing it to "orphan" 20GB of songs.
[03:09] <_VIM_> ouch
[03:09] <sam_> When I try to fix this using GTKPod or Amarok, both programs freeze
[03:09] <archangelpetro> hi, i have a problem, i'm getting a problem resolving a shared library (libOIS) it says it's not there.. in ld.so.conf i have /usr/local/lib and other 3rd party libraries resolve ok... but.. for some reason it cant find libOIS-1.2.0.so  when i have both that file and libOIS.so (options are -L/usr/local/lib -lOIS), can anyone help?
[03:09] <ajehals> neher - no need to restart, just log out and back in!
[03:10] <sam_> I'm so angry/sad!
[03:10] <bruce89> archangelpetro: ldconfif?
[03:10] <ajehals> Oh.  Mussed him.  What is the obsession with rebooting in between fixing things?
[03:10] <bruce89> *ldconfig
[03:10] <ajehals> *Missed
[03:11] <rabbit_ubuntu> Hey guys, Thanks again for the help sebsebseb and bruce89
[03:11] <rabbit_ubuntu> I appreciate it
[03:11] <archangelpetro> bruce89: what about it?
[03:11] <bruce89> archangelpetro: I assume you've run it
[03:11] <rabbit_ubuntu> Later all
[03:11] <bruce89> night
[03:12] <archangelpetro> bruce89: from ldconfig -v | grep -i ois  ->>  libOIS-1.2.0.so -> libOIS.so
[03:12] <cajun> I'm running Intrepid and I am unable to reawaken my laptop by moving the mouse after the screensaver comes on.  Has anyone else encountered this?
[03:13] <cajun> I have to press a key on the keyboard.  The touchpad gets the same response.
[03:13] <vyadmin> is there a way to do a filemanager as root?
[03:13] <usser> cajun, same here on hardy, mouse movement has no effect, i have to click a button
[03:14] <usser> vyadmin, gksudo nautilus --browser
[03:14] <vyadmin> a gui file manager...
[03:14] <archangelpetro> bruce89: as far as i can tell, it's all there?  libOIS-1.2.0.so -> libOIS.so
[03:14] <bruce89> archangelpetro: does ldd on the program that links to it say anything interesting
[03:14] <tpw_rules> tritium: if it helps its running 8.04, because of the wireless issue in 8.10
[03:14] <ideamonk> Has any one tried installing Mooshak - http://mooshak.dcc.fc.up.pt/ Over Ubuntu ? I'm trying to install it over Ubuntu 8.10, but I've failed to do so the whole day yesterday - http://ideamonk.blogspot.com/search/label/mooshak
[03:15] <archangelpetro> yea, when i ldd the binary file, it says libOIS-1.2.0.so not found
[03:15] <cajun> i don't remember if I had that problem on hardy.  has anyone heard of a fix?
[03:15] <nightrid3r> vyadmin mc might be usefull
[03:15] <archangelpetro> oh wait
[03:15] <_VIM_> nightrid3r: :)
[03:15] <archangelpetro> bruce89: it seems to work now.
[03:15] <linux206830> anyone know how to pause a ./configure during run?
[03:15] <bruce89> control + z
[03:15] <linux206830> that sleeps it, how do i undo sleep?
[03:15] <ideamonk> press the pause button maybe
[03:15] <_dean_> ^Z (ctrl-z)
[03:15] <_dean_> fg
[03:15] <bruce89> fg
[03:16] <H3l1c0pt3r> I have a problem with my wifi, when i use WPA or WPA2 encryption, my connection cuts out frequently and reconnects, if i use WEP, it is fairly stable but the connection is usually less than %50, in hardy heron i used WPA/WPA2 and it was almost always 100% and worked perfect. is this a bug? will it be fixed soon?
[03:16] <bruce89> out of interest, what is Control+Z called?
[03:16] <linux206830> bruce89: thank you, i think sleep
[03:16] <_dean_> suspend
[03:16] <linux206830> _dean_: ok, thanks, learn something everyday, goodbye
[03:16] <bruce89> thanks
[03:17] <_dean_> it sends SIGTSTP == tty stop
[03:17] <Zeroyez> i just spent 3 hours doing a web install and i accidentally skipped user creation
[03:18] <Zeroyez> do i have to reinstal?
[03:18] <_dean_> zeroyez: log in as root and type useradd
[03:19] <Zeroyez> that's the problem
[03:19] <Zeroyez> it made root, but didn't ask me to enter a password
[03:19] <_dean_> zeroyez: you don't have physical access so you can enter single user mode
[03:20] <TimewornShadow> Is it possible to install ubunto onto a 40 GB external HD and run it from there?
[03:20] <_dean_> zeroyez: the root account is 'locked' so if you login in single usermode there is no password
[03:20] <Delvien> TimewornShadow: depends if the PC you have supports USB boot
[03:20] <Delvien> TimewornShadow: it is possible though
[03:20] <TimewornShadow> ok
[03:20] <Zeroyez> i chose "allow root login" on the install
[03:20] <vyadmin> I am looking for a MYSQL gui tool... any sugestions?
[03:21] <bruce89> phpmyadmin if you can spare apache too
[03:21] <_dean_> zeroyez: what happens if you enter single user mode then
[03:21] <_dean_> zeroyez: does it ask for a password
[03:21] <nightrid3r> vyadmin webmin
[03:21] <vyadmin> ahh I would like to use something other than that
[03:21] <Zeroyez> dunno i'll see
[03:22] <gnrfan> googling around I see the home screen app I'm looking for is named "harbour launcher" it seems
[03:22] <_dean_> what is 'web install' of ubuntu anyway?
[03:23] <nightrid3r> _dean_ its actualy a netinstall
[03:23] <torc> Does anyone have an idea why I can boot to a LiveCD of 64bit on my PC but not to a 32 bit? and after I get to it, it try's to connect to the internet, but simply tgries for a while and disconnects?
[03:23] <_VIM_> i think the alternative cd has a "Web install"
[03:23] <gnrfan> vyadmin: In the repos you have mysql-navigator, mysql-admin and mysql-query-browser.. I use none to be sincere
[03:24] <_dean_> Do you mean that it is the minimal cd which downloads files from the Internet?
[03:25] <Zeroyez> alright, i booted into recovery mode and used drop to root shell
[03:25] <Zeroyez> then used passwd
[03:25] <nightrid3r> _dean_ yes
[03:25] <_dean_> So you set the root's password now
[03:25] <Loggia> Hello! Is PostgreSQL compatible with Ubuntu?
[03:25] <_dean_> So then now create a user
[03:25] <nightrid3r> Loggia yes
[03:26] <Loggia> sudo apt-get install PostgreSQL rite
[03:26] <bruce89> !tab
[03:26] <Zeroyez> nah i login as root always, i ain't a security believer
[03:26] <_dean_> adduser works for this
[03:26] <meoblast001> how do i make swfdec my default flash player in mozilla?
[03:27] <Flannel> _dean_: Please don't recommend people set a root password here.
[03:27] <usser> Zeroyez, you will be, once you screw up once or twice :)
[03:27] <torc> Does anyone have an idea why I can boot to a LiveCD of 64bit on my PC but not to a 32 bit? and after I get to it, it try's to connect to the internet, but simply tgries for a while and disconnects?
[03:27] <Flannel> Loggia: Of course.
[03:27] <Zeroyez> funny every time someone says "i login as root", everyone in a freenode channel is amazed and tell me to stop lol
[03:27] <bruce89> meoblast001: sudo update-alternatives --config xulrunner-addons-flashplugin
[03:27] <Zeroyez> or whoever says it
[03:27] <nightrid3r> torc bad cd maybe?
[03:27] <gnrfan> uhm.. no sources for harbour launcher available... it's a restricted package
[03:27] <Flannel> Zeroyez: You need to choose "recovery console" at your GRUB prompt.  Then you can use useradd to create a user, and useradd to add that user to the admin group.
[03:27] <Aroia> can someone help me? i dont know how to move a file onto my x-ternal HHD and i need to know if i give you the file name and where i want it to go if u can type it up for me
[03:28] <Zeroyez> yeah i already did, thanks for the help guys
[03:28] <meoblast001> bruce89: thanks
[03:28] <Loggia> thanks :)
[03:28] <_dean_> Zeroyez: of course on Ubuntu it is usual to have root locked and use sudo
[03:28] <torc> nightrid3r: quite possibly, although once I installed the 64 bit version, it worked fine but still had the ethernet issue, which I was finding a lot of results for on the forums and such but no solutions.
[03:28] <Dreamglider> Aroia, copy,n'paste  :)
[03:28] <sebsebseb> !root
[03:28] <nightrid3r> Aroia cp source.file /path/to/destination/
[03:29] <silentContender> Can someone help me with login woes?  KDM and console login keeps kicking me out.
[03:29] <Crshman> I have an MFC420cn that's connected via lan and it prints VERY slow (like 2 minutes per page) any ideas?
[03:29] <meoblast001> bruce89: there is a blank 0px gap
[03:29] <_dean_> Aroia: cp file directory to copy
[03:29] <_dean_> Aroia: or mv file directory to move
[03:29] <Zeroyez> well, i'm so used to debian i simply must turn my ubuntu install into a super up-to-date debian style install heh
[03:29] <bruce89> meoblast001: where?
[03:29] <meoblast001> bruce89: on youtube
[03:29] <meoblast001> the player isnt there
[03:30] <meoblast001> there is no "download adobe flash" pront
[03:30] <_dean_> Aroia: see 'man cp' and 'man mv'
[03:30] <bruce89> that's swfdec for you
[03:30] <meoblast001> it's just not there
[03:30] <_dean_> !man
[03:30] <Aroia> i cant... i dont have the permission
[03:30] <torc> Crshman: I would guess a slow print would be due to the printer
[03:30] <bruce89> have you got the non-free one installed too?
[03:30] <_dean_> Aroia: do it with sudo or remount with different commands
[03:30] <nightrid3r> Aroia sudo cp source.file /path/to/destination/
[03:30] <_dean_> !sudo
[03:30] <aphixe> can someone help me figure out orca.. i want it to read a pdf.. and it would be nice if it could highlight words.. it doesnt have to be a pdf reader i can convert stuff to a txt file..
[03:30] <jeeves> is there a channel for evoulation?  I'm trying to get the e-mail client to import meeting requests sent from outlook 2007
[03:31] <bruce89> jeeves: #evolution on gimpnet
[03:31] <torc> How do I burn at slower speeds than 10x? or would it be better to just install from a USB drive? I'm using CD-RWs
[03:31] <silentContender> My login keeps kicking me out, but the auth.log does not log me attempting to log in.
[03:31] <jeeves> bruce89, thanks.  this thing is pissing me off
[03:31] <Aroia> nightrid3r will you type it up so i can just copy and paste it? file i want to move is xpiso and its on my desktop to my x-ternal HHD called simpledrive
[03:31] <penguincentral> hi.  out of the following three file systems, what would you use and why: ext2, ext3, reiserfs
[03:31]  * penguincentral is formatting a new hard drive
[03:31] <jeeves> bruce89, what's the server address?
[03:31] <meoblast001> bruce89: why is the + still on the non-free plugin?
[03:32] <bruce89> jeeves: irc.gimp.org
[03:32] <jeeves> bruce89, nm, found it.  thanks
[03:32] <_dean_> Aroia: sudo mv ~/Desktop/xpiso /media/simpledrive
[03:32] <bruce89> meoblast001: you need to change it to swfdec
[03:33] <nightrid3r> Aroia sudo cp xpiso /media/simpledrive <--- but first check if /media/simpledrive exists
[03:33] <meoblast001> bruce89: i did.. that moved the * but not the +
[03:33] <meoblast001> http://rafb.net/p/k1xxxz55.html
[03:34] <tritium> tpw_rules: which "wireless issue" in 8.10?
[03:34] <_dean_> !rofl
[03:34] <ammagendut> hi morning all
[03:35] <ammagendut> does ubuntu have other browser ?
[03:35] <bruce89> meoblast001: not sure what that means
[03:35] <_dean_> !ammagendut: yes
[03:35] <cdm10> ammagendut: check out Add/Remove Programs, see what you can finde. There are some others.
[03:35] <rambo3> is there a way to repair ntfs from ubuntu ?
[03:35] <Aroia> it says it does not exist
[03:35] <_dean_> rambo3: yes
[03:36] <rambo3> _dean_, explain
[03:36] <bruce89> fsck
[03:36] <silentContender> !login
[03:36] <silentContender> !kdm
[03:36] <silentContender> !gdm
[03:36] <bruce89> !fsck
[03:36] <tritium> ammagendut: also, search in the Synaptic Package Manager
[03:36] <rambo3> Bruce, standard fsck doesnt have ntfs support
[03:36] <tpw_rules> tritium: on an acer aspire one, i couldnt get the drivers to work and the ubuntu wiki advised installing 8.04
[03:36] <tritium> silentContender: you can query ubottu in private, you know...
[03:36] <rambo3> Bruce89, standard fsck doesnt have ntfs support
[03:36] <_dean_> ntfsresize -fi /dev/hdXY
[03:37] <bruce89> so I hear
[03:37] <bruce89> !tab
[03:37] <silentContender> tripps, sorry
[03:37] <rambo3> !info ntfsresize
[03:37] <silentContender> tritium, sorry
[03:37] <_dean_> it is in ntfstools
[03:37] <_dean_> sorry ntfs-progs
[03:37] <Aroia> nightrid3r: it says it does not exist but im in the file
[03:37] <_dean_> !ntfs-progs
[03:37] <jeeves> bruce89, any other ideas?  I can't get anyone to reply in that channel
[03:37] <_dean_> !info ntfs-progs
[03:37] <bruce89> jeeves: nope
[03:38] <jeeves> bruce89, damn
[03:38] <_dean_> !info ntfsprogs
[03:38] <_dean_> ntfsprogs with no hyphen
[03:38] <_VIM_> !msgthebot | a few of you...
[03:38] <rambo3> !find ntfs-progs
[03:38] <nightrid3r> Aroia then simpledrive is mounted somewhere else
[03:39] <bruce89> jeeves: gimpnet is usually quiet
[03:39] <rambo3> !find ntfsresize
[03:39] <jeeves> bruce89, hummm
[03:39] <nightrid3r> Aroia type mount to see where it is mounted
[03:39] <centaurus> hi
[03:39] <centaurus> how are you
[03:40] <cumanzor> Anyone with Mediatomb experience?
[03:40] <_dean_> !rtfm | your mom
[03:40] <_dean_> !man
[03:40] <bruce89> jeeves: https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution/+question/22051
[03:40] <tritium> silentContender: no worries
 ntfsresize -fi /dev/hdXY , I doubt it,
[03:41] <JPSman> To quote my friend from last night "The kernel has his secret recipe and I dont want to know what it is"
[03:42] <aragilar1> Does anyone know how to auto-detect a specific wired network with NetworkManager?
[03:42] <sam_> where is the default vimrc?
[03:43] <mgolisch> sam_: /etc/vim/vimrc ?
[03:43] <andrewfree> Is there a command to print hardware specs like cpu and ram, graphics and such
[03:43] <_dean_> sam_ in /etc/vim
[03:43] <_dean_> andrewfree: yes
[03:43] <_dean_> andrewfree: but not the UNIX yes command
[03:43] <andrewfree> _dean_: care to share?
[03:43] <nightrid3r> andrewfree lshw
[03:43] <mgolisch> lshw?
[03:43] <_dean_> andrewfree: lshw
[03:44] <_VIM_> sam_:  mines at /usr/share/vim/vim71/vimrc_example.vim
[03:44] <kanzak> Hello! I have trouble installing a software...
[03:44] <sam_> mgolisch, _dean_ , thx, I find a /etc/vim/vimrc, but when I modify some setting, It can't work.
[03:44] <_VIM_> sam_:  but of course (look at my nick) I have every single VIM package you can imagine, so heh, i can paste mine if need be
[03:44] <pupk> hi
[03:45] <JPSman> So i want to start writing code and a GUI in ubuntu linux, is the primary GUI API gnome/GTK or what?    Should I learn GTK or wxwidgets?
[03:45] <_dean_> kanzak: use the apt-get for t3h win
[03:45] <kanzak> I am trying to install gnuworld and it won't work...
[03:45] <roy_hobbs> Hey how can I reconfigure PAM?  I someone screwed it up so that I only need to enter a username to login.  Passwords are not required (including root).
[03:45] <sam_> I must start vim with paramter "vim -u /etc/vim/vimrc"
[03:45] <sam_> ?
[03:45] <roy_hobbs> s/someone/somehow
[03:45] <kanzak> _dean_: i tried and apt-get has no gnuworld.
[03:45] <bruce89> JPSman: GTK+ is what GNOME and Xfce use
[03:45] <oberdada> greetings. i would like to connect 2 pc's both using ubuntu with a crossover cable. can anyone explain how to do it as if for a 4 year old?
[03:45] <ghoti> sam: or copy the rc file to ~/.vimrc
[03:45] <_VIM_> what ghoti said
[03:45] <_dean_> kanzak: try google to seef if you can find an rpm and convert it with alien
[03:46] <sebsebseb> oberdada: 4 year olds don't do that kind of thing yet
[03:46] <_dean_> kanzak: if not then compile from source
[03:46] <oberdada> i mean, how do i setup the network so that i can share files and stuff
[03:46] <sebsebseb> !samba
[03:46] <sebsebseb> whoops
[03:46] <sebsebseb> !scp
[03:46] <bruce89> !ssh
[03:46] <_dean_> !ftp
[03:46] <_dean_> !FTPd
[03:46] <_dean_> !sftp
[03:47] <keres> is it 'sudo chmod 777 ~/folder' to set ownership to nobody?
[03:47] <sancho21> I have a relationship of 3 models: Book.Author.Mother.  How to use query builder to search "Search a book where it's author's mother's name is Cherry?
[03:47] <kanzak> _dean_: gnuworld is a IRC services software...
[03:47] <sebsebseb> !permissions |  keres
[03:47] <kanzak> I put everything it needed to configure and the make crashes.
[03:47] <bruce89> keres: someone has to own everything
[03:47] <oberdada> my knowledge of networking is 0
[03:47] <oberdada> can anyone help¡
[03:48] <keres> bruce89: i mean, set read/write to a folder
[03:48] <sebsebseb> oberdada: depends on what you want to do
[03:48] <wolter> i'm having file sharing problems with a mac (from an ubuntu machine, obviously)
[03:48] <kanzak> theres a redhat package
[03:48] <sebsebseb> wolter: oh didn't know you had a Mac
[03:48] <oberdada> just connect 2 pc's together with a crossover cable
[03:48] <_dean_> bruce89: there is a nobody user actually
[03:48] <wolter> sebsebseb, i dont.. im in a friend's house.
[03:48] <_dean_> bruce89: so sudo chown nobody would work
[03:48] <ghoti> SCP should work fine mac to linux; SSH is SSH after all
[03:48] <sebsebseb> wolter: ah right
[03:48] <bruce89> _dean_: I knew it'd be wrong
[03:48] <silentContender> Can someone explain why my auth.log does not log my login activity
[03:48] <oberdada> and browse through files from one pc to the other
[03:48] <frenchy> can anyone explain to me why apt-get stopped asking me to choose y or n when installing something, now it just does it without asking
[03:49] <bruce89> *I'd
[03:49] <Stingray> Hey all from Turkey.
[03:49] <ghoti> frenchy: there might be an alias mapping 'apt-get' to 'apt-get -y'.  type 'alias' to see if that's it.
[03:49] <oberdada> that's what i want to do. is that possible or not?
[03:49] <sebsebseb> !ot |  Stingray
[03:49] <jrib> frenchy: it only asks you if there are deps to install
[03:49] <Bruce> i have ubuntu desktop, where can i change the treble and bass on the sound card?
[03:49] <bruce89> sebsebseb: that's a bit mean
[03:50] <keres> dang, i forgot how to rm a directory.
[03:50] <Tomu> buenaaaaaaaaaaas
[03:50] <keres> rm ~/folder/*?
[03:50] <sebsebseb> bruce89: maybe that was the idea :D
[03:50] <frenchy> jrib: im not 100% sure but i think the last think i installed had deps
[03:50] <_dean_> keres: rm -rf
[03:50] <frenchy> jrib: ill check something else though
[03:50] <bruce89> rm -fr /blah
[03:50] <keres> _dean_: thats it, thanks
[03:50] <ghoti> rm -rf is angerous
[03:50] <joaogerardo> alguém aí sabe a solução de um problema com gráficos NVidia, mx100/200
[03:50] <nightrid3r> wolter netatalk or samba
[03:50] <ghoti> I'd advise rmdir /path/to/directory instead
[03:50] <joaogerardo> geforce2?
[03:50] <bruce89> I know, it should be rm -fr
[03:50] <wolter> nightrid3r, samba
[03:51] <crdlb> it's safer than rm with * though
[03:51] <sancho21> Ups, wrong channel
[03:51] <sebsebseb> !ask |  Stingray
[03:51] <ghoti> rmdir is safer-er as it only removes empty directories
[03:51] <kanzak> Thanks anyways
[03:51] <wolter> nightrid3r, well, the mac just detects my samba server (plus a vnc server)
[03:51] <sebsebseb> Stingray: what some help with something?
[03:51] <_dean_> kruce89: aren't they the exact same thing just with recurse and force in a different order
[03:51] <_dean_> s/kruce89/bruce89/g
[03:51] <marine1> sebsebseb, what up kid back agian
[03:51] <bruce89> _dean_: yes, but I like alphabetical order
[03:52] <sebsebseb> marine1: who ware you?
[03:52] <Stingray> i can only Look:P
[03:52] <joaogerardo> anyone knows how to solve a ubuntu problem with nvidia graphic card mx100/200 geforce2?
[03:52] <wolter> nightrid3r, at first all the songs copy, but there is something in my computer that kills the transfer and deletes everything..
[03:52] <oberdada> how do i setup a network in ubuntu with 2 pc's? can i just plug in the crossover cable on both pc's?
[03:52] <oberdada> help plese
[03:52] <Dreamglider> Testdisk is Dreamglider new best friend :)
[03:52] <nightrid3r> wolter hmmm never had a problem like that before
[03:52] <marine1> sebsebseb, good i have a issue with acpi after i reflashed y bios due to upgrading cpu my system doesn't shut down properly anymore
[03:52] <jeeves> bruce89, that's a no go.  I can't belive this is such a pain
[03:53] <wolter> nightrid3r, also, my ftp server is weird. It changed password somehow..
[03:53] <sebsebseb> marine1: ok  I don't know
[03:53] <bruce89> it is a non-free format you see
[03:53] <wolter> nightrid3r, how can I see it?
[03:53] <marine1> sebsebseb, ok you dn't know what
[03:53] <rambo3> !find ntfsck
[03:53] <nightrid3r> wolter an ftp server will never change passwords
[03:54] <ghoti> usually FTP passwords are the same as the user passwords
[03:54] <_dean_> it is also in ntfstools
[03:54] <wolter> nightrid3r, then i guess someone changed it for me.. its normally the same password as my login account, right?
[03:54] <marine1> I have a issue with acpi after i reflashed my bios due to upgrading cpu my system doesn't shut down properly anymore
[03:54] <oberdada> how do i get two ubuntu pc's connected with a crossover cable?
[03:54] <ghoti> so if you changed your login password, your FTP password would have changed as well
[03:54] <nightrid3r> wolter yes
[03:54] <wolter> ghoti, i didn't.
[03:54] <bruce89> Dreamglider: just as well
[03:54] <wolter> nightrid3r, hm..
[03:55] <frenchy> jrib: thanks you are right! i guess i should pay more attention
[03:55] <nightrid3r> !info netatalk
[03:55] <braddcadd> oberdada, i think that is called "ad hoc"
[03:55] <Dreamglider> bruce89,  ?
[03:55] <marine1> sebsebseb, i have a issue with acpi after i reflashed y bios due to upgrading cpu my system doesn't shut down properly anymore
[03:55] <bruce89> Dreamglider: I assume testdisk worked
[03:55] <wolter> nightrid3r, i'm installing netatalk...
[03:56] <sebsebseb> marine1: already told you that I can't help you
[03:56] <sebsebseb> !
[03:56] <Dreamglider> bruce89, it's copying right now, best part is, that "Documents and settings" seems to be all there :)
[03:56] <sebsebseb> !guru
[03:56] <nightrid3r> wolter i have never used a mac so i can't help you with the netatalk
[03:56] <oberdada> i plug in the cable on both pc's- nothing happens, no network. how do i get the pc's "talking" in ubuntu?
[03:56] <Dreamglider> bruce89, it's copying right now, best part is, that "Documents and settings" seems to be all there :)
[03:57] <oberdada> just answer the question please
[03:57] <nightrid3r> oberdada you have to use static ip's on both pc's
[03:57] <bruce89> Dreamglider: no need to repeast yourself
[03:57] <ghoti> Oberdata: you need to set the computers' IP addresses so that they know how to talk to each other, for starters.
[03:57] <bruce89> Dreamglider: but that is lucky
[03:57] <marine1> need  help I have a issue with acpi after i reflashed y bios due to upgrading cpu my system doesn't shut down properly anymore
[03:57] <oberdada> ok. how do i go about using static ip's?
[03:57] <oberdada> how and where do i set the ip's
[03:57] <Dreamglider> bruce89, Sorru i must have pressed up key i saw the line in xchat and didnt think i had pressed enter.
[03:58] <oberdada> and to what do i set the ip's?
[03:58] <C-S-B> oberdada, first id get rid of network manager if your using static ips
[03:58] <bruce89> Dreamglider: ah,
[03:58] <bruce89> thanks for telling me of a feature
[03:58] <bruce89> !repeat | oberdada
[03:59] <marine1>  i have a issue with acpi after i reflashed y bios due to upgrading cpu my system doesn't shut down properly anymore
[03:59] <C-S-B> oberdada, what is your ips subnet ?
[03:59] <C-S-B> normally 192.168.1.*
[03:59] <oberdada> C-S-B - i dont know
[03:59] <oberdada> how/where do i look that up?
[03:59] <C-S-B> then you need to know your  router ip. for your gateway
[03:59] <C-S-B> try ifconfig
[03:59] <Dreamglider> bruce89, lets say i get everything of the partition, could i copy it to a new partition and boot it?
[04:00] <bruce89> Dreamglider: no reason why not, but not all files are going to be there
[04:00] <Out_Cold> does anyone here use Luks encryption??
[04:00] <nightrid3r> C-S-B he doesn't have a router
[04:00] <oberdada> this?: eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  direcciónHW 00:13:20:78:7a:6d
[04:00] <C-S-B> switch?
[04:00] <nightrid3r> C-S-B croosover cable between 2 pc
[04:00] <wolter> can i give more than 1 uid to a partition in fstab?
[04:00] <C-S-B> cheers nightrid3r
[04:01] <pHreaksYcle> can someone explain in regular english for me how public keys work?
[04:01] <C-S-B> oberdada,  for your setup, i would do the following
[04:01] <pHreaksYcle> like the idea behind them, and then how i find mine and give it to someone??
[04:01] <bruce89> pHreaksYcle: yikes
[04:01] <pHreaksYcle> bruce89: yeah i know
[04:01] <bruce89> you need to generate your key
[04:01] <bruce89> then upload the public part to a keyserver
[04:01] <ghoti> pHreaksYcle: to generage keys, use ssh-keygen
[04:01] <bruce89> or indeed seahorse for a GUI way
[04:02] <ghoti> your public keys will be in ~/.ssh/ wiht a .pub extension
[04:02] <_VIM_> seahorse is nice
[04:02] <nightrid3r> pHreaksYcle http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public-key_cryptography
[04:02] <C-S-B> set PC one to 19.168.1.1, subnet 255.255.255.0, GW 192.168.1.2. PC two to 192.168.1.2 subnet 255.255.255.0 GW 192.168.1.1
[04:02] <pHreaksYcle> seahorse
[04:02] <pHreaksYcle> okay
[04:02]  * bruce89 finds encryption magic
[04:02] <pHreaksYcle> ghoti: so everytime i run the keygen, it will put a new one into that folder??
[04:02] <bruce89> you only do it one
[04:02] <oberdada> ok C-S-B. where do i do the setting? also, could u private msg please? cos its hard to read
[04:02] <bruce89> as long as you keep a hold of it
[04:03] <ghoti> you should only need to run it once
[04:03] <ghoti> but if you need more than one keypair
[04:03] <pHreaksYcle> bruce89: ghoti: okay.
[04:03] <ghoti> it asks you for the name for your keay when you run it
[04:03]  * bruce89 is on to my 4th key, thanks to not backing up
[04:04] <pHreaksYcle> ghoti: okay, so if i have my key generated, and i have my buddy put this key into his seahorse
[04:04] <TaG^> what is the command to see what driver i have install on wlan0?
[04:04] <pHreaksYcle> ghoti: can we then SSH together?
[04:04] <bruce89> pHreaksYcle: ssh is something else
[04:04] <bruce89> it needs ssh keys
[04:04] <pHreaksYcle> christ
[04:04] <pHreaksYcle> well
[04:04] <ghoti> once your keys are generated, copy the contents of your .pub keyfile into ~/.ssh/authorized_keys on the box you are SSHing into
[04:05] <tech0007> TaG^: dmesg | grep wlan0
[04:05] <pHreaksYcle> if it helps, im trying to VNC over SSH
[04:05] <ghoti> and you will be able to SSH in without using your password.
[04:05] <bruce89> seahorse can do ssh key generation and setup too
[04:05] <john_> hey does anyone if ubuntu will change for DST
[04:05] <crdlb> john_: it will
[04:06] <sebsebseb> DST??????
[04:06] <sebsebseb> what's DST?
[04:06] <crdlb> john_: it's encoded in your timezone
[04:06] <bruce89> john_: !info tzdata
[04:06] <mezy> whats the thing the controls volume levels?
[04:06] <sebsebseb> !sound
[04:06] <ghoti> john_: If you have it set to a timezone that observes DST, it should adjust for you
[04:06] <sebsebseb> ah yes
[04:06] <sebsebseb> dayligh savings time
[04:06] <sebsebseb> of course
[04:06] <john_> thanks crdlb, Bruce ghoti
[04:06] <bruce89> !tab
[04:06]  * ghoti tips his cap
[04:07] <Zlogger> i love tab
[04:08] <ghoti> So do I. The key, not the soft drink.
[04:08] <pHreaksYcle> ghoti: is seahorse "Authorizations" in System->Admin in Ubuntu??
[04:08] <bruce89> no
[04:08] <bruce89> Applications>Accessories>Seahorse
[04:08] <pHreaksYcle> bruce89: i dont have it
[04:08] <bruce89> sorry, passwords and encryption keys
[04:08] <pHreaksYcle> bruce89: got it
[04:09] <bruce89> 3FA30F0A
[04:09] <mezy> ello?
[04:12] <unop> RoastedTiresX, i just got your PM
[04:13] <wolter> how do i make a ssh share on my computer?
[04:13] <sebsebseb> !ssh
[04:13] <ghoti> wolter: what do you mean by 'SSH share'?
[04:14] <unop> RoastedTiresX, in your test - your disk wasn't mounted and sure enough, rsync will write to the directory that you assumed was the mount point - but that's not the same as a disk failing half-way through a rsync,
[04:14] <wolter> ghoti, i really don't know.. I just know that mac, linux and windows can easily share files via ssh
[04:14] <ghoti> Very true
[04:14] <wolter> ghoti, how do I share then?
[04:14] <ghoti> do you have SSH servers on each of the computers you wish to access files on?
[04:14] <wolter> ghoti, a gui would be awesome.
[04:14] <nottaken> hi everyone. I'm about to do a clean install of ubuntu. I've been using gnome for a long time but am considering going kubuntu instead. as there are several things about gnome which bug me or things i think it needs
[04:14] <wolter> ghoti, i want to make a one on my machine so i can, from a mac, copy files to it.
[04:14] <ghoti> What OS do you wish to use a GUI with?
[04:15] <nottaken> how does KDE stack up against gnome? (NOTE: hope this doesn't turn into a flame war)
[04:15] <usser> nottaken, you'll find that kde will bug you even more, there's alot of things that just dont work right with kde4
[04:15] <wolter> ghoti, ubuntu
[04:15] <unop> wolter, File/Connect To Server - choose SSH there
[04:15] <ghoti> so you want oto access files on a Ubuntu box from a mac, correct?
[04:15]  * ghoti points at what unop said
[04:15] <nottaken> does kde have the same graphics support?
[04:16] <Jordan_U> nottaken: Yes, they both use Xorg
[04:16] <bruce89> yes
[04:16] <nottaken> ok
[04:16] <wolter> unop, i need to make a share on my computer and connect to it from a mac.
[04:16] <wolter> ghoti, correct.
[04:16] <unop> wolter, through ssh right?  just install the openssh-server package
[04:16] <ghoti> wolter: apt-get install openssh-server if you haven't already
[04:17] <Jordan_U> wolter: To "make a share" just install openssh-server, to access it from the mac use sshfs
[04:17] <xxx> hello
[04:17] <ghoti> there's no 'making a share' with SSH/scp
[04:17] <unop> wolter, i'm not sure how you mount a remote share on Mac OS X .. but I guess there's a mac channel somewhere if you don't know how.
[04:17] <sebsebseb> xxx: hi
[04:17] <wolter> Jordan_U, yeah but how do I connect to my share? I can't install anything on the mac, its not mine.
[04:17] <sebsebseb> wolter: yeah #Mac
[04:17] <Guest14876> whats program can i use to open a .bin file? i got .iso mounted with giso and gmount but i need to view the videos insde the .bin
[04:18] <JONT> ce_imut
[04:18] <unop> wolter, you shouldn't need to install anything on the Mac, i don't think.  just figure out how to use ssh on it.
[04:18] <wolter> Ok.
[04:18] <Jordan_U> wolter: If you can't install anything on the mac then you need to use the scp command to copy files, or use samba instead of ssh
[04:18] <tech0007> Guest14876: if its a video, mplayer can
[04:20] <Blade> Hey are there some of you there knows how you can make your pidgin look cool ?
[04:21] <bruce89> you can't
[04:22] <TaG^> Hi, when I type sudo apt-get install build-essential I ge this error msg E: Couldn't Find Package build-essential
[04:22] <unop> TaG^,  sudo apt-get update  # first
[04:22] <disappearedng> hey how do I initiate a sleep on command?
[04:23] <inteliwasp> so, i managed to score a second video card and have an extra monitor around... and to no surprise, after installing the nvidia drivers, xorg did not like the setup, said no screens, can someone point me to a nice guide to reset up xorg with 2 cards and 2 monitors?
[04:23] <disappearedng> sudo shutdown -s it not it
[04:23] <sebsebseb> disappearedng: there is also this graphical program you will find useful I expect    gshutdown
[04:23] <Othor> I set up something so that when i move my mouse to the upper left hand corner of the screen it show the desktop, I need to turn that off but can't remember where i turn that on at. anyone have any ideas where i should check?
[04:24] <Guest14876> tech0007: its not a video
[04:24] <disappearedng> is there a suspend though for command line
[04:24] <jrib> Othor: compiz or brightside
[04:24] <Bigjalowos> hello how do i mount a .bin file ?
[04:24] <jrib> disappearedng: try: pm-<TAB>
[04:24] <jrib> !iso | Bigjalowos
[04:24] <Othor> jrib: i have compiz installed... do you know what plug in to check?
[04:24] <disappearedng> what?
[04:25] <Bigjalowos> jrib, : am talking about bin
[04:25] <Bigjalowos> not iso
[04:25] <jrib> Othor: no, check its preferences
[04:25] <bruce89> !bin
[04:25] <jrib> Bigjalowos: me too
[04:25] <tech0007> Bigjalowos: what's that bin?
[04:25] <Bigjalowos> its a torrent file.. with .bin and iso of courses
[04:25] <Bigjalowos> cisco courses
[04:25] <jrib> Bigjalowos: if you click the link ubottu gave you, it should tell you about bchunk (in the repositories)
[04:25] <Bigjalowos> aah i was tryign to avoid converting
[04:25] <Othor> jrib: i have been looking though it for ever now and can't seem to find it...lol
[04:26] <jrib> disappearedng: what do you mean by "suspend"?
[04:26] <jrib> Othor: it's pretty obvious in simple-ccsm
[04:27] <datapolitical> is it possible to install ubuntu if your machine refuses to boot from a CD?
[04:27] <Othor> jrib:  thanks i'll try that i have been looking in CompizConfig Setting Manager
[04:27] <jrib> !install | datapolitical
[04:28] <brandon_thomson>  suddenly i have a lot of disk io, how can i tell what process is responsible?
[04:28] <jrib> brandon_thomson: iotop would be one way
[04:28] <Dreamglider> bruce89, i seem to be gettin everything of the partition, im copying one folder at a time with testdisk to a ext3 partition, after im done(If i get that far) can i copy everything to a ntfs and boot it ?
[04:29] <Othor> jrib:  that worked thanks for the help!
[04:29] <bruce89> Dreamglider: depends what you mean by "boot it"
[04:29] <brandon_thomson> jrib: perfect! thanks
[04:29] <Dreamglider> bruce89, starr windowsXP
[04:29] <bruce89> I doubt that'll work
[04:30] <wolter> Jordan_U, what is scp ?
[04:30] <bruce89> I thought you ran dd with the if and of the wrong way round?
[04:30] <bruce89> !scp
[04:30] <wolter> Jordan_U, source copy I guess?
[04:30] <Dreamglider> bruce89, what if all the stuff on the ntfs was at the end of the partition !
[04:30] <jrib> my guess would be "secure copy"
[04:30] <bruce89> wp says secure copy
[04:31] <wolter> Jordan_U, bruce89 well, mac doesn't have ssh installed by default.
[04:31] <ghoti> yes it does
[04:31] <bruce89> Dreamglider: you've been lucky
[04:31] <wolter> bruce89, yeah.. i hadn't read the !scp
[04:31] <ghoti> (assuming OS X)
[04:31] <jrib> ghoti: not enabled by default though, right?
[04:31] <ghoti> the *server* is not
[04:31] <ghoti> but you can SSH from the terminal at any time
[04:31] <wolter> !who | ghoti
[04:31] <jrib> yes, you are right
[04:32] <ghoti> I don't know if the 'connect to server' tool speaks SCP/SSH though
[04:32] <ghoti> If it does not
[04:32] <ghoti> you could look into FileZilla
[04:32] <Blade> wolter:  Hey Wolter .. do you know what i need to write in Terminal to install this "72611-PidginScreenlet-0.3.3" ?
[04:32] <ghoti> which is a great FTP/SCP/SFTP GUI tools
[04:32] <bruce89> my general principle is to direct things at people only if there is someone else talking at the same time
[04:32] <ghoti> http://filezilla-project.org/download.php
[04:32] <wolter> ghoti, well, the mac apparently recognizes the ssh command from the terminal.
[04:32] <Blade> wolter:  Hey Wolter .. do you know what i need to write in Terminal to install this "72611-PidginScreenlet-0.3.3.tar.gz" ?
[04:33] <wolter> lets remember mac is unix under the hood, like they say.
[04:33] <bruce89> !repeat | Blade
[04:33] <wolter> Blade, well, you have to extract it to begin with.
[04:33] <jrib> Blade: you would have to read the documentation.  Start by extracting it and looking inside for a README or INSTALL file
[04:33] <wolter> Blade, rclick, extract here
[04:33] <wolter> Blade, what jrib said.
[04:33] <Blade> wolter:  yes i have done that :)
[04:34] <Blade> wolter:  okay ill chekc
[04:34] <Blade> jrib:  alright :)
[04:34] <bruce89> wolter: there's no need to relay messages
[04:34] <wolter> bruce89, what do you mean?
[04:35] <bruce89> jrib directed it at Blade, so saying "what jrib said" has no effect
[04:36] <jrib> bruce89: I think he just meant that wolter and I were giving the same advice
[04:36]  * bruce89 really should count to ten before launching into a tirade
[04:36] <ghoti> or just use /msg :)
[04:37] <Blade> jrib:  Well, there are no readme or installation file, there are only those files " themes, PidginScreenlet.py, ThemeParser.py, menu.xml and Screenlet.package"
[04:37] <jrib> hrmm, this channel is dead
[04:37] <jrib> Blade: sorry, I don't know anything about screenlets.  Is it some sort of compiz thing?
[04:37] <usr13_> What is the name of the network manager?
[04:37] <ghoti> Blade: do you have a screenlets tool installed?
[04:37] <jrib> usr13_: network-manager?  nm-applet?  What do you mean?
[04:38] <wolter> bruce89, i managed to connect to my computer and succesfully loged in from the mac.
[04:38] <Blade> jrib:  its okay, i dont understand it either ;)
[04:38] <usr13_> network-manager
[04:38] <wolter> bruce89, now, how do I mount folders to the mac's desktop, do you happen to know?
[04:38] <Blade> ghoti:  Hm .. no, do i need that ?
[04:38] <ghoti> Blade: such as "screenlets" for example?  If you run that, there might be a way to install the screenlet package within it.
[04:38] <bruce89> wolter: nope
[04:38] <bruce89> !screenlets
[04:38] <ghoti> Blade: yes, screenlets are applets that are run my a sort of..
[04:38]  * ghoti points up
[04:39] <usr13_> network-manager: command not found
[04:39] <bruce89> that's a bit wrong, any composting manager will work
[04:39] <job_> i don't get sound while playing totem but i get sound with mplayer.  any idea???
[04:39]  * bruce89 didn't mean composting manager
[04:39] <ghoti> job_: it's possible totem speaks (for example) pulseaudio, whilse mplayer only speaks ALSA
[04:40] <jrib> !screenlets =~ s/have/have a compositing window manager such as/
[04:40] <job_> is totem also tied to audacious and xmms?  because those two don't play either
[04:40] <ghoti> I'm unsure
[04:40] <jrib> bruce89: better?
[04:40] <bruce89> jrib: indeed
[04:40] <jrib> job_: not really.  What's the issue?
[04:41] <Blade> ghoti:  i have tried "sudo apt-get install screenlet-package" but it cant find anything :(
[04:41] <ghoti> Blade: try apt-get install screenlets
[04:41] <usr13_> nm-applet, that's it.
[04:41] <malikyoda> if I format an ssd card on my eeepc with a swap space, does that count as having a swap space on my internal ssd?
[04:41] <bruce89> !info screenlets | Blade
[04:42] <b1n42y> malikyoda, you dont need swap space if you have lots of memory
[04:42] <jrib> job_: tried playing a simple file like a .wav?
[04:42] <Blade> ghoti:  Then it just says "E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[04:42] <Blade> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[04:42] <Blade> "
[04:42] <bruce89> b1n42y: unless you want to suspend
[04:42] <job_> well i get sound with player only.  audacious, xmms and totem dont give me anything
[04:42] <malikyoda> II have 1gb of ram on my eee pc
[04:43] <job_> mplayer only
[04:43] <b1n42y> Bruce, you can suspend to memory
[04:43] <ghoti> Blade: you need to use sudo for apt-get
[04:43] <jrib> !who | job_
[04:43] <bruce89> hibernate, sorry
[04:43] <ghoti> Blade: so more fully, sudo apt-get install screenlets
[04:43] <b1n42y> malikyoda, ah well than its probably a good idea
[04:43] <malikyoda> if I upgraded to 2gb then I'm ok to not have one?
[04:44] <job_> jrib, mplayer only gives me the sound.  audacious, xmms and totem don't.
[04:44] <Blade> ghoti:  YEarh now somethings happen
[04:44] <b1n42y> malikyoda, i have 2gb on my oldish tablet pc, and i havent had problems
[04:44] <bruce89> malikyoda: if you are to hibernate, you need to have swap at least as big as the ram
[04:44] <jrib> job_: tried playing a simple file like a .wav?
[04:45] <job_> jrib i will try that now
[04:45] <lucax> hey guys, i cant start mplayer--- im on ubuntu intrepid and it gives me some error saying mplayer bad cpu usage or soemthing like that... any ideas how to solve this?
[04:45] <Blade> ghoti: Thank you for your help, really !
[04:45] <ghoti> Blade: That'll be US$8.00 :)
[04:45] <malikyoda> so will a removable ssd give me the ability to hibernate?
[04:45] <jrib> lucax: be precise.  Use pastebin for exact error messages
[04:45] <tech0007> job_: u need to configure ur apps to use alsa or pulse
[04:45] <b1n42y> malikyoda, to answer your initial question, yes if you can format your card to swap then it should be fine
[04:45] <Othor> ghoti: lol
[04:45] <malikyoda> ok
[04:45] <Blade> ghoti: Hahaha .. mr funny guy :P
[04:46] <ghoti> Blade: I'm told I have my moments :)
[04:46] <technologiclee> i was trying to set a PATH=.:$PATH
[04:46] <bruce89> with the Pound where it is
[04:46] <malikyoda> I've installed crunch bang without a swap space as suggested, was just curious
[04:46] <Blade> ghoti: Haha yes you have, indeed ;)
[04:46] <b1n42y> malikyoda, whats crunch bang
[04:46] <bruce89> !hibernate | malikyoda
[04:46] <job_> tech0007, how do you do that
[04:47] <malikyoda> its a variant of ubuntu
[04:47] <technologiclee> then i tried PATH=.:PATH - which has altered the PATH - what is the easiest was to put it back like it was?
[04:47] <b1n42y> ahh
[04:47] <malikyoda> it runs on openbox
[04:47] <mezy> ello?
[04:47] <malikyoda> it's lightweight
[04:47] <b1n42y> thanks
[04:47] <pythagorean23> thank you....
[04:48] <tech0007> job_: ex. in audacious, preferences->audio..look at current output plugin
[04:49] <pythagorean23> hey can anyone help me with a printer problem??
[04:49] <bruce89> !ask | pythagorean23
[04:49] <molly_> ono how i am abel two access other network chats? they want sum nick serv code no what is that?
[04:49] <b1n42y> molly_, maybe pastebin what the problem is we cant read minds
[04:49] <lucax> jrib, http://paste.ubuntu.com/128074/
[04:49] <job_> tech0007,  it worked.  i changed from alsa to pulse.  thanks for your help.
[04:49] <unop> technologiclee,  source ~/.bashrc
[04:50] <lucax> http://paste.ubuntu.com/128074/   heres the problem with mplayer on intrepid... no idea what to do
[04:50] <jrib> lucax: for the channel, not me (I'm leaving)
[04:50] <b1n42y> lucax, what do you use mplayer for?
[04:51] <Bigjalowos> some kinda vid player
[04:51] <lucax> watch movies
[04:51] <jrib> lucax: you should include the command you ran by the way
[04:51] <lucax> gmplayer
[04:51] <b1n42y> lucax, save yourself a headache, vlc is great for that
[04:51] <bruce89> ich
[04:51] <ghoti> I second the recommendation of VLC
[04:51] <jrib> lucax: does mplayer /path/to/some/media/file   work?
[04:52] <molly_> wow do you get nick passwords?
[04:52] <OmiKrOn> hi
[04:52] <OmiKrOn> any ideea why i get this
[04:52] <OmiKrOn> ?
[04:52] <OmiKrOn> W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hardy-security/Release  Unable to find expected entry  multiuniverse/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
[04:52] <jrib> !register | molly_
[04:52] <FloodBot2> OmiKrOn: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:52] <b1n42y> molly_, yes
[04:52] <mezy> ?
[04:52] <b1n42y> !pastebin | OmiKrOn
[04:52] <jrib> OmiKrOn: does it really say "multiuniverse"?
[04:52] <b1n42y> !ask | OmiKrOn
[04:52] <mezy> that was weird
[04:52] <molly_> register at freenode?
[04:53] <OmiKrOn> imman idiot
[04:53] <OmiKrOn> thanks
[04:53] <tech0007> lucax: try upgrading mplayer...mine says 1.0rc2-4.3.3
[04:53] <molly_> k thanx
[04:53] <mezy> how do i get into a dictionary that has a space in its title using the command line?
[04:54] <lucax> jrib, yeah mplayer does work... but i cant use the gui
[04:54] <b1n42y> mezy, tab
[04:54] <ghoti> mezy: put a backslash before the space
[04:54] <ghoti> mezy: or use tab-completion
[04:55] <ghoti> mezy: you can use a backspace before any odd characters that give you trouble, backslashes included.
[04:55] <ghoti> mezy: use a backslash, even
[04:55] <jrib> lucax: try resetting its configuration?  ~/.mplayer/gui.conf I think.  See if you have anything in ~/.mplayer/config .  Does it still crash if you pass gmplayer a media file on the command line too?  Try different video outputs (like -vo x11).  Good luck
[04:56] <unop> mezy, or just quote the filename.   "/path/to/file name with spaces"
[04:57] <visitor> hello
[04:57] <Zlogger> hi
[04:57] <visitor> is there a linux console for windows?
[04:58] <bruce89> !cygwin
[04:58] <ghoti> depends on what you mean
[04:58] <ghoti> if you mean bash, then yes, cygwin
[04:58] <bruce89> !mingw
[04:58] <ghoti> if you mean a way to SSH into other servers..
[04:58] <ghoti> !putty
[04:58] <bruce89> !mingw32
[04:58] <Thirtysixway> or command prompt
[04:58] <Thirtysixway> cmd
[04:58] <visitor> ok. thanks, i'll try to google it.
[04:58] <ghoti> cheers
[04:59] <kushalone> !cygwin
[04:59] <visitor> Thirtysixway: what i mean is a linux console, not cmd. :)
[05:00] <Thirtysixway> visitor: yeah go with either putty to use remote console, or cygwin for bash on windows
[05:00] <ghoti> visitor: do you mean a bash prompt on the local machine?
[05:00] <bruce89> Slàinte
[05:01] <visitor> Thirtysixway, ghoti: i mean a bash prompt.
[05:01] <ghoti> visitor: then cygwin or wingw32 is the way to go
[05:02] <visitor> ghoti: ok, i'm checking it right now.
[05:03] <whoiam> how to type other language on Kubuntu
[05:03] <jak_> hi
[05:04] <bruce89> !i18n
[05:05] <Dreamglider> is there any diffrence in running ubuntu vs. kubuntu other then personal prefrencess ?
[05:05] <bruce89> whoiam: !locale
[05:05] <anthonys> Dreamglider: default desktop environment
[05:05] <bruce89> !locale | whoiam
[05:05] <whoiam> I can type other language easily, but in Kubuntu is not
[05:05] <C-S-B> is it bettrer to compile drivers into kerel or just load modules?
[05:05] <whoiam> vietnam
[05:06] <ghoti> C-S-B: in my opinion, the day of monolithic kernels is long-past
[05:06] <unop> C-S-B, depends - most of the time, it's better to use modules
[05:06] <Dreamglider> ergo personal preferences !
[05:06] <ghoti> C-S-B: I would make more or less everything modular, barring things needed at boot-time (filesystems, netwrok drivers, etc)
[05:06] <anthonys> Dreamglider: and default software included
[05:06] <Dreamglider> ok
[05:06] <whoiam> I can type other language easily in Ubuntu, but in Kubuntu is not
[05:07] <bruce89> ghoti: I know, that Linux thing is past it
[05:07] <C-S-B> ghoti, thats what ive done, cheers :)
[05:07] <bruce89> whoiam: you'll likely need some KDE language pack thing
[05:07] <ghoti> C-S-B: my pleasure :)
[05:08] <ghoti> whoiam: You might Google around for KDE Localization
[05:08] <bruce89> whoiam: language-pack-kde-vi
[05:08] <whoiam> I do
[05:09] <bruce89> !info language-pack-kde-vi > whoia
[05:09] <whoiam> and do follow the construction
[05:09] <bruce89> !info language-pack-kde-vi > whoiam
[05:09] <whoiam> but It doesn't work
[05:09] <bruce89> !kde
[05:10] <bruce89> perhaps there's something in KDE's setting thing
[05:10] <disappearedng> kde sucks
[05:10] <bruce89> !flame | disappearedng
[05:10] <ghoti> that's a matter of opinion
[05:10] <tech0007> kde is a memory hog
[05:10] <disappearedng> nowadays
[05:10] <disappearedng> it used to be good
[05:10] <ghoti> personally, I prefer CLI :)
[05:10] <b1n42y> is gaim pidgin now?
[05:10] <disappearedng> even linux torvalds switch to Gnome from DKE
[05:10] <disappearedng> KDE
[05:10] <bruce89> !stop
[05:11] <anthonys> b2n42y: yes
[05:11] <ghoti> b1n42y: yes
[05:11] <coldhak> fluxbox is better?
[05:11] <b1n42y> ta
[05:11] <anthonys> best is xmonad
[05:11] <coldhak> xmonad? haven't heard of that one
[05:11] <anthonys> written in haskell
[05:11] <b1n42y> !offtopic
[05:11] <hanasaki> how do I throttle my cpu speed? its an amd dual core
[05:12] <bruce89> !opinion
[05:12] <disappearedng> !lol
[05:12] <disappearedng> wow
[05:12] <disappearedng> #ubuntu is strict
[05:12] <bruce89> good advice anywhere
[05:12] <coldhak> wait, somebody actually asked which was best? i thought people were just being funny.
[05:13] <bruce89> I like getting ubottu involved
[05:13] <ghoti> I think bruce89 was just trying to nip a 'holy war' in the bud
[05:13] <ghoti> so to speak
[05:13] <anthonys> probably
[05:13] <anthonys> good call too
[05:13] <bruce89> I couldn't find a better thing than stop
[05:13] <ghoti> though I assert that the CLI uses less RAM than any GUI :p
[05:14] <anthonys> true, but you also don't have all the features of a GUI
[05:14] <bruce89> !fact
[05:14] <anthonys> such as images
[05:14] <coldhak> mplayer can, technically play video in CLI
[05:14] <bruce89> you've never heard of ascii art
[05:14] <ghoti> images are overrated. ASCII art uber alles!
[05:14] <hanasaki> how do I set my cpu speed ?
[05:14] <bruce89> hanasaki: you don't
[05:14] <tech0007> hanasaki: in the bios
[05:15] <anthonys> bruce89: I mean images such as HD movies, stuff like that
[05:15] <hanasaki> ?? huh? I found powernowd-k8
[05:15] <ghoti> hanasaki: in the CPU selection process when you're building the computer :)
[05:15] <anthonys> not ascii art
[05:15] <bruce89> anthonys: there was a ascii feed of the football world cup
[05:15] <bruce89> anthonys: http://ascii-wm.net/
[05:16] <hanasaki> bruce89:  tech0007 ghoti  I have it overclocked to 2.8GHz but the panel applet only shows 2.5 max
[05:16] <WebcamWonder> Could someone reproduce this bug? Open a file in GVim, turn on syntax highlighting, and scroll around to see the CPU go crazy at 100%?
[05:16] <anthonys> bruce89: it was much more fun on an HDTV
[05:16]  * bruce89 didn't know HD existed in 2006
[05:16] <anthonys> bruce89: it did, but it wasn't used much
[05:16] <hanasaki> bruce89:  I worked on HD in 1990 in japan
[05:16] <bruce89> !ot
[05:16] <Geep> hanasaki: if your cpu supports freq scaling, you can adjust it using cpufreq-selector (GUI)
[05:16] <bruce89> just kidding
[05:17] <anthonys> I know
[05:17] <hanasaki> cpufreq-selector
[05:17] <hanasaki> Failed to acquire org.gnome.CPUFreqSelector: Connection ":1.141" is not allowed to own the service "org.gnome.CPUFreqSelector" due to security policies in the configuration file
[05:17] <bruce89> difficult to detect sarcasm
[05:17] <ghoti> In my case, just assume it's there :)
[05:17] <anthonys> one of the only problems of IRC
[05:17] <hanasaki> Geep:  what about that error?
[05:17] <arooni_____> my load is at 2 and its kinda hard to use firefox
[05:17] <bruce89> !sarcasm
[05:17] <unop> WebcamWonder, about 35% CPU taken up for a 500 line file - that's expected.
[05:18] <WebcamWonder> unop: Continous scrolling?
[05:18] <unop> WebcamWonder, yea
[05:18] <Geep> hanasaki: try sudo cpufreq-selector
[05:18] <ITechJunkie> Is anyone in here having problems with gnome-terminal? The charactors on screen don't seem to be refreshing correctly...
[05:19] <bruce89> !gksudo
[05:19] <hanasaki> Geep:  that just appears to hang when run as root
[05:19] <WebcamWonder> unop: That is very weird. I am on intrepid, and the gvim that comes with it (will check the version), and when I do some scrolling with even a 100 line file in C syntax, or even type in new stuff in GVim, both my cores scream at 100%
[05:19] <OmiKrOn> ok apt finds drbd8-utils but can't find the other drbd8 packages
[05:19] <WebcamWonder> !info gvim
[05:19] <OmiKrOn> any ideas?
[05:19] <OmiKrOn> !info drbd8-module-source
[05:19] <OmiKrOn> how about hardy?
[05:19] <unop> WebcamWonder, I suppose this also depends on the type of video card you have, driver and how much VideoRAM the card has too - having said that, my card only has 128MB
[05:19] <Geep> hanasaki: I haven't dealt with it in a while, but I used http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/11/04/enabling-cpu-frequency-scaling/ as a source when I did.
[05:20] <dc_361> alguien habla español soy nuevo con esto
[05:20] <unop> WebcamWonder, that's really odd
[05:20] <bruce89> Package gvim does not exist in jaunty
[05:20] <unop> !es | dc_361
[05:20] <yigal> hello I'm making a switch from CLI apps. mpd/mutt --> GNOME stuff, does anyone like something more than rhythmbox
[05:20] <arooni_____> my load is at 2 and its kinda hard to use firefox .... i have core 2 duo and 3GB of ram.  is there a way to reduce my load?
[05:20] <whoiam> is there any program to recovery linux like norton ghost?
[05:20] <WebcamWonder> unop: Well, I run nVidia blob, and it is integrated, so okish. But nothing too terrible. But yeah, and vim behaves fine
[05:20] <bruce89> arooni_____: top
[05:20] <PoetOfShadows> yigai: try banshee
[05:20] <yigal> PoetOfShadows: will do
[05:21] <unop> !info vim-gtk | bruce89
[05:21] <arooni_____> bruce89, what else can i do
[05:21] <bruce89> arooni_____: see what's going mad in top, and kill it
[05:21] <Geep> hanasaki: gnome has a panel applet.. cpufreq-selector is not gui - I messed that up
[05:22] <arooni_____> bruce89, by cpu %?
[05:22] <hanasaki> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6857290
[05:22] <hanasaki>  Geep could you take a look at my thread above and give your thoughts?
[05:22] <snarkster> i need to get some data off a laptop that is going to linux, but im having video issues as its nvidia and Im running off usb ISO. how can I get video working
[05:22] <bruce89> arooni_____: anything unusual there?
[05:22] <Fahmy> hii
[05:23] <arooni_____> Bruce, firefox is at 49% and 33%, then, gdm 12%, .... then nothing else is really up there
[05:23] <arooni_____> bruce89, cpu%
[05:23] <Fahmy> i wanna learn ubunto in 1 week, how can i do this mission ? i am newbie into linux world. i am used tot he windown system. plz /msg me
[05:23] <bruce89> arooni_____: that sounds rather high
[05:23] <visitor> Fahmy: thats very hard
[05:23] <arooni_____> bruce89, for firefox?
[05:23] <bruce89> in general
[05:24] <Dreamglider> seems like i was able to copy everything of that damaged partition !
[05:24] <ghoti> Dreamglider: That's a good thing!
[05:24] <bruce89> Dreamglider: how long did dd run for?
[05:24] <jlink> I've got a question that doesn't really belong here, but perhaps someone can help. I'm trying to use Boost::Asio, but can't figure out the library to link when compiling with g++
[05:24] <snarkster> aha f4 safe graphics mode.. maybe thatll work
[05:24] <WebcamWonder> unop: Found an Arch user complaining, but his solution doesn't work for me http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=66185
[05:24] <Dreamglider> bruce89, an hour or 90 minutes or so
[05:25] <nanotube> Fahmy: websearch for things like "ubuntu tutorial" and whatnot. there are also books and/or ebooks available out there you can read.
[05:25] <bruce89> Dreamglider: lucky
[05:25] <visitor> Fahmy: have you already installed ubuntu on your computer?
[05:25] <yigal> PoetOfShadows:  yes this is nice, I'm also moving from Archlinux to Ubuntu I think, I'm tired of doing my own thing, in any event thank you
[05:26] <Dreamglider> bruce89, every file i have checked seems to be ok, i checked  random txt's and jpg's and movie files all work fine and every file i see has a name
[05:26] <visitor> any filipino here?
[05:26] <unop> WebcamWonder, do you have any 3rd party plugins started with vim?
[05:26] <PoetOfShadows> yigal: I personally went the other way, hated all the stuff ubuntu loaded onto my machine; but I guess everybody does their own thing; in any case, no problem, glad I could help
[05:27] <unop> WebcamWonder, is the problem the same with vim in a terminal?
[05:27] <WebcamWonder> unop: Nope. Nothing. Just 4 things in my rc (tab stuff, etc.). And no, vim works perfectly
[05:27] <arooni_____> bruce89, how do i reduce load
[05:28] <bruce89> !ph | visitor
[05:28] <ghoti> arooni_____: stop doing so much :p
[05:28] <Geep> hanasaki: Your problem maybe similar to this: http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=52541 - This isn't really my area of expertise.. I'd try disabling cpufreq scaling entirely and see if you get access the the full horsepower (see final post in link)
[05:28] <visitor> bruce89: thanks
[05:28] <bruce89> arooni_____: what's your load average?
[05:29] <yigal> PoetOfShadows:  ya, I started with Debian 4 years ago, then for Ubuntu for a little less than a year, I couldn't stand the extra sauce, but regardless of my technical skills I'm a user not a dev., at least most of the time and I want something that is being worked on from all angles like Ubuntu - sorry for the rant :), thanks for the GUI help
[05:29] <unop> WebcamWonder, I'm not sure what i'd do at this point
[05:29] <arooni_____> bruce89, 1.6.3
[05:29] <josh_> need all help getting this error and tried all that i can think of can anyone maybe give me some advice on how to fix it heres a pastebin of the error http://pastebin.com/m6641dd8f
[05:29] <unop> WebcamWonder, you might like to ask the guys in #vim
[05:29] <disappearedng> Hey is size_t a type?
[05:29] <PoetOfShadows> yigal: to each their own
[05:29] <bruce89> not too bad
[05:29] <WebcamWonder> unop: hmm... Alright, thanks for the help!
[05:29] <lstarnes> disappearedng: I think it is
[05:29] <sauvin> disappearedng, yes. It's normally a typedef.
[05:29] <bruce89> disappearedng: it is an alias for an integer of some size
[05:30] <bruce89> known as gsize in GLib
[05:30] <deagle> hello
[05:30] <ghoti> Cordial greetings, deagle
[05:30] <deagle> thank you!
[05:30] <bruce89> !hi | deagle
[05:31] <deagle> does anyone know why the delete song plugin for audacious crashes as soon as i try to delete a song?
[05:31] <PoetOfShadows> bruce89: how many of these commands to you know?!
[05:31] <ghoti> bruce89, wouldn't 'hi' be quicker to type than '!hi | $nick'?
[05:31] <bruce89> PoetOfShadows: I guess
[05:31] <jlink> Question: I just hooked up a second monitor and setup BigDesktop, so it's like I've got one big monitor (2048x768). However, I only have one task bar, and it's on my primary screen. Is there a way to have a task bar on the secondary screen which tracks tasks only on that screen, so two screens of tasks aren't crammed into one task bar?
[05:31] <OmiKrOn> any ideea why apt can`t find drbd0.8-module-source on hardy heron?
[05:31] <bruce89> and I PM ubottu in advance
[05:32] <whoiam> is there any program to recovery linux like norton ghost, to deploy on many PCs?
[05:32] <bruce89> !dd
[05:32] <yigal> bruce you the man
[05:32] <PoetOfShadows> whoiam: tried remastersys?
[05:33] <whoiam> thanks
[05:33] <whoiam> i'll google it
[05:33] <ghoti> whoiam: You could also look into Mondi
[05:33] <user_name> Hello
[05:33] <ghoti> whoiam: er, Mondo
[05:34] <user_name> I need some help and stuff.
[05:34] <PoetOfShadows> !hi | user_name
[05:34] <Dreamglider> i want to make a NTFS partition with gparted but ntfs is grayed out ?
[05:34] <datapolitical> what's the best bandwidth monitor for ubuntu?
[05:34] <SeaPhor> is there a big difference in the driver support between the 32bit and 64bit OS?
[05:34] <bruce89> !info drbd0.7-module-source > OmiKrOn
[05:34] <josh_> http://pastebin.com/m6641dd8f  anyone??
[05:34] <ghoti> datapolitical: I've had good luck with ntop
[05:34] <datapolitical> (so i can kill my connection when i hit a certain number of gigabytes)
[05:34] <datapolitical> k
[05:34] <datapolitical> thanks fish
[05:35] <ghoti> my pleasure
[05:35] <yigal> /msg ubottu
[05:35] <bruce89> SeaPhor: not really
[05:36] <Fahmy> i am using laptop, 256 ram. while isntalling ubunto it stopped at the keyboard layout and the computer hanged. what should i do now ?
[05:36] <bruce89> Dreamglider: ntfsprogs
[05:36] <SeaPhor> bruce89, ok, last time i tried was with 7.04 and had all kinds of issues
[05:37] <dronix> Fahmy: where u using a burned iso?
[05:37] <bruce89> SeaPhor: unless you need non-free drivers
[05:37] <Fahmy> yes i got it from the offical site of ubunto
[05:37] <PoetOfShadows> SeaPhor: as far as I know, ndiswrapper doesn't work with 64-bit OSs
[05:37] <Dreamglider> bruce89,  will it enable ntfs in gperted ?
[05:37] <SeaPhor> bruce89, nvidia vid card is about all
[05:37] <PoetOfShadows> so if you need that, then 32-bit would be the way to go
[05:37] <Dreamglider> gparted*
[05:38] <bruce89> SeaPhor: that's fine, I have that myself
[05:38] <bruce89> Dreamglider: should do
[05:38] <dronix> Fahmy: make sure your cd is error free. Give it another try, if it doesn't work. then try using wubi
[05:38] <Fahmy> dronix i did that test.
[05:38] <Fahmy> what is wubi ?
[05:38] <Nathan1995> -_-
[05:39] <dronix> wubi is a windows installer for ubuntu. It install ubuntu from within windows.
[05:39] <PoetOfShadows> Fahmy: it lets you install Ubuntu into Windows as a normal application, letting you test Ubuntu w/o a CD, also making it easily removable if you don't like it
[05:39] <ghoti> Fahmy: your computer only has 256MB of RAM, right? You might look into ubuntu; it's made for less powerful computers
[05:39] <SeaPhor> bruce89, cool, cause i just tried recordmydesktop  and its really messed up, my guess is i need more ram, 3g just not enough
[05:39] <bruce89> !wubi
[05:39] <ghoti> Fahmy: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/xubuntu
[05:40] <Fahmy> PoetOfShadows i first tried to use the the isntall on windows option, it said, the memory i have is 255 and that may cause a problem.
[05:40] <yigal> SeaPhor: 3g not enough?
[05:40] <bruce89> Fahmy: probably better off with the alternate CD, the use of Python in the graphical installer means it requrires loads of RAM
[05:40] <SeaPhor> yigal, nope, the vid is all messed up
[05:40] <PoetOfShadows> Fahmy:  I believe the minimum for Ubuntu installation is 256 MB, so it might be a problem during install
[05:41] <yigal> SeaPhor: that's vid, not mem. though
[05:41] <PoetOfShadows> I'm gonna say to follow bruce89's advice here
[05:41] <Fahmy> bruce89 what is the alternate cd ??
[05:41] <yigal> SeaPhor: the driver
[05:41] <ghoti> Fahmy: xubuntu only needs 192MB for the installation, so that might be a better fit for your computer.
[05:41] <bruce89> !alternate
[05:41] <Fahmy> !minimal
[05:41] <ghoti> Fahmy: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/xubuntu
[05:41] <yigal> is xorg still used by ubuntu?
[05:41] <bruce89> wow, ubottu should be fully automated
[05:41] <bruce89> yigal: of course
[05:42] <yigal> bruce89: ok, I'm using arch and I heard you had some auto. deal going on
[05:42] <SeaPhor> yigal, does fine for normal recording, but i was recording a session of me playing City of Heroes- heavy fight scene
[05:43] <yigal> SeaPhor: interesting, not a gamer myself, so I should desist from any comments :)
[05:43] <Mushrooms> This is terrible.. I just did an update on my ubuntu box, and now, I can not use my wireless internet anymore. Could someone please help me?
[05:44] <PoetOfShadows> Mushrooms: did you upgrade the kernel?
[05:44] <datapolitical> ghoti, is there a way to tell it how to ignore local IPs?
[05:44] <zorba_the_greek> hello
[05:44] <Mushrooms> PoetOfShadows: yes, i had a quick look at the list, and it included a kernel header update
[05:44] <PoetOfShadows> !hi | zorba_the_greek
[05:44] <ghoti> datapolitical: sorry?
[05:44] <datapolitical> so I can just count bytes sent and received outside my network
[05:44] <bruce89> beat me to it
[05:44] <coreyman> I want to watch a video on NBC.com in firefox, is there a silverlight alternative that i can use to watch those videos, i read nbc uses silverlight technology
[05:44] <zorba_the_greek> i am trying to use Terminal Server Client to remote desktop into my windows laptop over LAN.
[05:44] <ghoti> datapolitical: Are your LAN and WAN on different interfaces?
[05:44] <bruce89> !brain | PoetOfShadows
[05:44] <datapolitical> no
[05:45] <datapolitical> i just figured it could track traffic by IP address
[05:45] <PoetOfShadows> Mushrooms: that is probably what caused the loss of wi-fi
[05:45] <zorba_the_greek> I have setup up my laptop to allow remote desktop but it isn't working, I can VNC from the laptop to my ubuntu computer
[05:45] <ghoti> datapolitical: I *think* you can have ntop keep track of that sort of thing
[05:45] <WebcamWonder> coreyman: Moonlight aims at a Linux port of Silverlight
[05:45] <ghoti> datapolitical: it's been a while since I've used it though
[05:45] <Mushrooms> PoetOfShadows: any idea how i could undo that update?
[05:45] <b1n42y> bruce89, if you like playing with bots #ubuntu-bots
[05:45] <coreyman> webcamwonder thanks
[05:45] <PoetOfShadows> Mushrooms: do you have a recent backup?
[05:46] <yigal> /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:46] <yigal> oh!!
[05:46] <Mushrooms> PoetOfShadows: i don't know, unless ubuntu automatically backs it up, i haven't actually done any backing up manually
[05:46] <zorba_the_greek> i am trying to use Terminal Server Client to remote desktop into my windows laptop over LAN.  I have setup up my laptop to allow remote desktop but it isn't working, I can VNC from the laptop to my ubuntu computer. I can ping the address fine on my Ubuntu machine, but I just can't remote into it. Any help would be great!
[05:46] <coreyman> webcamwonder is the package name mono-smcs?
[05:47] <WebcamWonder> coreyman: I am not sure if it has been packaged, and is available ornot
[05:47] <sebsebseb> coreyman: Moonlight hummmmm Silverlight no thanks,  Flash no thanks
[05:47] <ghoti> zorba_the_greek: Does it time out or give you some specific error? What OS is the box you're trying to RDP into using?
[05:47] <PoetOfShadows> Mushrooms: Ubuntu doesn't automatically backup; and here is the part where you start googling for ways to undo kernel updates; I'm not exactly sure how, as I've never had to
[05:47] <datapolitical> ghoti, turns out it does it automatically
[05:47] <ghoti> datapolitical: excellent news! :)
[05:47] <datapolitical> it knows from setup the difference between local and remote
[05:47] <datapolitical> yea
[05:47] <datapolitical> :)
[05:47] <datapolitical> now the question is
[05:47] <FloodBot2> datapolitical: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:48] <Mushrooms> PoetOfShadows: ow.. yikes this i'm not looking forward to lol
[05:48] <datapolitical> now the question is, how do I get it to kill certain processes when it hits the cap
[05:48] <sebsebseb> datapolitical: killall proccessname or xkill and click on it
[05:48] <WebcamWonder> !info mono-smcs
[05:49] <zorba_the_greek> i am trying to use Terminal Server Client to remote desktop into my windows laptop over LAN.  I have setup up my laptop to allow remote desktop but it isn't working, I can VNC from the laptop to my ubuntu computer. I can ping the address fine on my Ubuntu machine, but I just can't remote into it. Any help would be great! Sorry for mentioning it again, should I shut up?
[05:49] <ghoti> datapolitical: you could set up a cron job to supress your default gateway when you reach your cap
[05:49] <Mushrooms> PoetOfShadows: is it possible to boot into an old kernel via grub?
[05:49] <PoetOfShadows> Mushrooms: That's why people have backups; HD prices are pretty low nowadays, so I'd suggest getting a good one to prevent this from happening again; in any case, good luck, hope you get a solution to your problem swiftly
[05:49] <ghoti> zorba_the_greek: what version of Windows?
[05:49] <datapolitical> exactly
[05:49] <PoetOfShadows> Mushrooms: yes it is
[05:49] <bruce89> !info moonlight-plugin-mozilla
[05:49] <zorba_the_greek> ghoti, windows xp Home :(
[05:49] <bruce89> does in Jaunty
[05:49] <PoetOfShadows> Mushrooms: didn't think of that, and ubuntu even does it automatically; that might work
[05:49] <ghoti> zorba_the_greek: XP Home doesn't support RDP outside of Remote Assistance
[05:50] <datapolitical> now the question is where does ntop store the data
[05:50] <WebcamWonder> !info jaunty moonlight-plugin-mozilla
[05:50] <Mushrooms> PoetOfShadows: i'm not exactly an experienced user of linux and ubuntu.. so i might need some help
[05:50] <WebcamWonder> !info moonlight-plugin-mozilla jaunty
[05:50] <zorba_the_greek> ghoti ok is there a work around that you suggest?
[05:50] <coreyman> webcamwonder i found it
[05:50] <WebcamWonder> bruce89: Nice catch :)
[05:50] <ghoti> zorba_the_greek: I'd use a VNC server on the Windows box
[05:50] <PoetOfShadows> Mushrooms: does a GRUB delay show up when you boot?
[05:50] <zorba_the_greek> ghoti to VNC into it from ubuntu?
[05:50] <zorba_the_greek> ghoti that sounds good
[05:51] <Mushrooms> PoetOfShadows:  yes, but only a few seconds
[05:51] <ghoti> zorba_the_greek: indeed, VNC is quite useful :)
[05:51] <SandGorgon> guys... i installed ubuntu using minimal-cd for a customized install - no games, gimp.etc. - now i want to replicate the same system on another computer. Can I create a install-cd or something ?
[05:51] <zorba_the_greek> ghoti thanks a lot, i always knew that home was worse at networking and now I know why
[05:51] <erikh> hey folks, what's the easiest way to generate a dummy ssl certificate on 8.04 LTS?
[05:51] <erikh> for apache.
[05:51] <vineeth> helooo anybody help me to do voice chat in yahoo or gmail in ubuntu
[05:52] <PoetOfShadows> Mushrooms: hit any key during that delay, and it'll bring you to a menu; when you get to that menu, go to the 2nd entry after the latest one, and boot into that
[05:52] <bruce89> WebcamWonder: the thing is somesites are silverlight 2.0 now
[05:52] <unop> erikh, use openssl  -- there are howtos on apache.org
[05:52] <sebsebseb> vineeth: hummmmmmm  the Gmail one needs Windows it seems, and not sure about Yahoo
[05:52] <ghoti> datapolitical: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/xubuntu :)
[05:52] <erikh> unop: ugh.
[05:52] <erikh> ok. :)
[05:52] <WebcamWonder> bruce89: Yeah, I know. I don't care for it either, coreyman wanted to know :)
[05:52] <PoetOfShadows> Mushrooms: that will bring you to an old kernel version, and Wi-fi work
[05:52] <Mushrooms> PoetOfShadows: ok, let me have a try now
[05:52] <PoetOfShadows> Mushrooms: go for it
[05:52] <ghoti> datapolitical:  oops, wrong URL. try http://www.ntop.org/documentation.html
[05:53] <zorba_the_greek> ghoti is RealVNC free edition the one I want?
[05:54] <Mushrooms> PoetOfShadows: yup i think the new kernel is what killed the wifi
[05:54] <PoetOfShadows> Mushrooms: that's one of the only problems with Linux: you never know if an update will break something
[05:54] <vineeth> any other software to do voice chat in ubuntu exept skype
[05:54] <bruce89> PoetOfShadows: that's the fun
[05:54] <ghoti> zorba_the_greek: that should work nicely.
[05:55] <Mushrooms> bruce89: that's so not fun, >.<
[05:55] <PoetOfShadows> bruce89: unless you actually need your wi-fi for work, in which case…
[05:55] <zorba_the_greek> ghoti I am stuck between that and ultraVNC or xtightvnc
[05:56] <sebsebseb> zorba_the_greek:  sroll up hummmmm,  what do you want to do, can you tell me?  so I don't have to scroll up loads
[05:56] <Dr_willis> I tend to use the vnc4server package
[05:56] <sebsebseb> lol guys
[05:56] <sebsebseb> all that is insecure I think
[05:56] <Dr_willis> any of th vnc stuff should work.
[05:56] <sebsebseb> I  tunnel  VNC nicely using SSH :)  Linux to Linux
[05:56] <Dr_willis> if you want secure.. ssh tunnle it
[05:57] <zorba_the_greek> sebsebseb I am figuring out what version of VNC I should install on my xp home laptop so I can remote into it
[05:57] <zorba_the_greek> on a lan
[05:57] <sebsebseb> and use one of those sites now if I want to see Windows
[05:57] <zorba_the_greek> not internet
[05:57] <SeaPhor> while in top, is there a kill option that will still save the curent progress?
[05:57] <stratman4300> anyone in here connect to the internet via an EVDO data card??
[05:57] <Dr_willis> zorba_the_greek,  for a windows machine. i use the 'ultravnc' server.
[05:57] <ghoti> dr_willis he's planning on a Windows VNC server; the default Ubuntu client should work with any of them, yes?
[05:57] <Dr_willis> zorba_the_greek,  it has some neat features ive not seen in others.
[05:57] <sebsebseb> zorba_the_greek: ok on the lan you don't really need encryption for VNC anyway, so  yeah  realvnc free edition will do it
[05:57] <zorba_the_greek> dr_willis ok i'll give that one a shot
[05:57] <Dr_willis> Yes. any vnc client SHOULD wiork with any vnc server
[05:57] <Mushrooms> PoetOfShadows: hmm so i should be able to 'uninstall' the new version of the kernel right? using synaptic package manager?
[05:57] <bruce89> SeaPhor: k
[05:58] <mib_03esio> hi guys is there support for ati graphics in ubuntu??
[05:58] <ghoti> dr_willis yes, I know, operative word  'should' :)
[05:58] <sebsebseb> !ati
[05:58] <PoetOfShadows> Mushrooms: possibly, or you might be able to mess with grub and make it auto boot into the old one…
[05:58] <ghoti> mib_03esio: depends on what you mean by 'support' exactly :)'
[05:58] <gladiator> hi. i installed ubuntu yesterday on my laptop. i hibernated it and it worked just fine. but it didnt recover back. got stuck at the loading screen which says "Ubuntu"
[05:58] <Mushrooms> PoetOfShadows: yeah messing with grub would probably be easier, since i just have to edit the entry
[05:58] <zorba_the_greek> thanks for all the help guys
[05:58] <mib_03esio> ghoti: i have this ati crad but ubuntu cant get any modules/drivers for it
[05:58] <Mushrooms> PoetOfShadows: but lets have a look at this header thing from synaptic first
[05:58] <sebsebseb> gladiator: yeah there's issues with stuff like that,  I think it's to do with the kernel
[05:59] <sebsebseb> gladiator: Kernel is not that good for power management still I think
[05:59] <gladiator> sebsebseb: is there a solution?
[05:59] <PoetOfShadows> Mushrooms: you could also use SUM to have it boot into the old one… That's probably the easiest
[05:59] <sebsebseb> gladiator: maybe depending on what hardware you have exactly and so on
[05:59] <ghoti> mib_03esio: did you enable third-party and non-free sources in System->Administration->Software Sources?
[06:00] <Mushrooms> PoetOfShadows: oh? could you please walk me through on that one?
[06:00] <stratman4300> I'm trying to share out a dail up connection with a NAT between the ppp device and the local eth0. It works fine except when the connection is redailed and a new address is assigned to the ppp device. I then have to update the route manually before any internet traffic will start flowing again. Any ways to automate this??
[06:00] <gladiator> its not really about power management. but where can i find info on this issue?
[06:00] <sebsebseb> gladiator: don't know
[06:00] <PoetOfShadows> Mushrooms: I'm not at my Ubuntu box right now, so 'twould be kinda hard (damn GUI)
[06:00] <sebsebseb> gladiator: ubuntuforums.org  may havey our soloution though
[06:00] <gladiator> sebsebseb: thanks
[06:01] <PoetOfShadows> Mushrooms: but SUM is pretty intuitive, I don't you'll have that much trouble…
[06:01] <sebsebseb> gladiator: yep nearly every issue been covered there some where
[06:01] <vineeth> tell me abt gtalx
[06:01] <gladiator> sebsebseb: i just googled. top results are requests to get it fixed :) so i doubt there is one
[06:01] <sebsebseb> gladiator: ok  :d
[06:01] <Mushrooms> PoetOfShadows: oh right, well i found the kernel files in synaptic and set it to remove
[06:01] <b1n42y> !search gtalx | vineeth
[06:01] <Mushrooms> PoetOfShadows: i'll try that first
[06:01] <sebsebseb> gladiator: what did you go google by the way?
[06:02] <jontec> problem with Toshiba Portege 3505: I don't believe wireless is functional on this laptop; I have an entry for a device in iwconfig (and I can change settings here), but no reasonable entry in lspci (-vv)... how can I definitively tell whether or not it works?
[06:02] <gladiator> ubuntu hibernate
[06:02] <sebsebseb> ok
[06:02] <SeaPhor> bruce89, ok,,, not understanding, i started an app in cli, ctrl+c is NOT ending it, it persists, but if possible i woulf like it to save what its done but end now
[06:02] <PoetOfShadows> Mushrooms: try it, but I'm not sure that that would be the best idea…
[06:02] <Bossmanbeta> Does anyone else have a problem with Firefox locking down the sound system, so nothing else can play audio? I have to kill firefox to free up the sound resources...(Ubuntu 8.04 & Firefox 3.0.4)
[06:02] <vineeth> is it support voice chat?
[06:02] <gladiator> and results are like: "Idea #94: fix suspend and hibernate for laptops"
[06:02] <sebsebseb> Bossmanbeta: Firefox can effect my Banshee  at times it seems, but that's pretty rare
[06:02] <bruce89> SeaPhor: what is it?
[06:02] <b1n42y> suspend cancelled by VLC playing some file error, whats all that about ?
[06:02] <sebsebseb> Bossmanbeta: Ubuntu's unoffical version of Firefox, can have right stupid issues
[06:02] <Mushrooms> PoetOfShadows: lol well i removed it, we'll see what happens after restart
[06:03] <SeaPhor> bruce89, recordmydesktop
[06:03] <PoetOfShadows> Mushrooms: good luck!
[06:03] <vineeth> helooo anybody no software to do voice chat in ubuntu
[06:04] <Dr_willis> !info festival
[06:04] <Bossmanbeta> sebsebseb: it's rather annoying... VLC seems to be the only application that can still play audio, but Songbird (uses gstreamer), Audacious both fail as does XMMS
[06:04] <b1n42y> !search voice | vineeth
[06:04] <bruce89> !espeak
[06:04] <sebsebseb> vineeth: hummmmmmm   why do you need to do that?
[06:04] <bruce89> !info espeak
[06:04] <b1n42y> bruce89, lol espeak
[06:04] <sebsebseb> Bossmanbeta: what about Banshee  ?
[06:04] <Bossmanbeta> Anyone know how to solve the firefox-locking-sound issue? Right now, I have to kill firefox to solve it and restart it (and it will RElock the sound resource if another application does not have it)
[06:05] <vineeth> my friends are using windows and i cant talk with them as i  use ubuntu
[06:05] <Bossmanbeta> sebsebseb: I dont use banshee. Don't care for it.
[06:05] <sebsebseb> vineeth: Skype works in Ubuntu
[06:05] <bruce89> !info ekiga
[06:05] <bruce89> !info telepathy-stream-engine
[06:05] <sebsebseb> vineeth: probably a few  other voice programs out there to,  plus you can probably get stuff working in Wine, and if not a Windows virtual machine
[06:06] <tw1tch> vineeth: what are the window friends using?
[06:06] <vineeth> pls tell in detail sebsebseb
[06:06] <vineeth> ymessenger and gtalk
[06:07] <bruce89> !jabber
[06:07] <bruce89> that's cheek
[06:07] <Bossmanbeta> ..i rarely get answers in #ubuntu...I should stop trying.
[06:07] <bruce89> Pidgin is not GNOME
[06:07] <stormchas2000> i like pidgin
[06:07] <fuzeboxsoftware> I am really wanting to stick with Ubuntu, but Vista seems to run faster and smoother to me. Anyone know of a good tutorial for optimizing to its fullest?
[06:07] <sebsebseb> bruce89: Pidgin won't do voice and I think Kopete won't either
[06:07] <bruce89> Empathy does
[06:07] <PoetOfShadows> fuzeboxsoftware: Vista is faster than Ubuntu?
[06:07] <sebsebseb> vineeth: sadly no  Google Talk for Linux :(  I quite like that app myself otherwise, but I don't use for voice
[06:08] <Othor> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-setup-voice-chat-with-google-talk-user-using-empathy.html
[06:08] <sebsebseb> vineeth: there will be altneratives for things, but  you can also run Windows inside Ubuntu for Google Talk
[06:08] <bruce89> google talk is Jabber
[06:08] <sebsebseb> Othor: empathy still not tried that, it's multi protocall though?
[06:08] <vineeth> how to run windows inside ubundu
[06:08] <PoetOfShadows> Mushrooms: how'd your restart go?
[06:08] <bruce89> which is what Empathy supports, as does Pidgin
[06:08] <sebsebseb> bruce89: it uses  Jabber  yes
[06:09] <danes_> hello, which linux distribution is the fastest to load to include on a usb with persistent changes?
[06:09] <fuzeboxsoftware> hmm...no help?
[06:09] <sebsebseb> vineeth: that should be a lost resort, these guys are giving you useful alternative  stuff
[06:09] <bruce89> vineeth: !virtual
[06:09] <bruce89> !virtual
[06:09] <jontec> any definitive way to check for wireless functionality? The card shows cell association in iwconfig, and I can run dhclient
[06:09] <PoetOfShadows> fuzeboxsoftware: did you say Vista is faster than Ubuntu?
[06:09] <Mushrooms> PoetOfShadows: removing the packages from synaptic doesn't do anything, i have to change the grub entries too
[06:10] <Mushrooms> PoetOfShadows: i'm trying to work out thow the edit thing works now.. but i can't make much sense of it
[06:10] <sanjud> jontec-> what do you seek?
[06:10] <PoetOfShadows> Mushrooms: try SUM
[06:10] <sebsebseb> vineeth: you should  do native Linux software :)  and if  you need something Windows try Wine and commercail versions of that, no luck there, then do a Virtualbox virtual machine. and you  need the non OSE for USB suppourt from their site http://www.virtualbox.org
[06:10] <vineeth> i tried pidgin empathy,gnash,kopet  all are waste as voice is concerned
[06:10] <bruce89> !virtualbox
[06:11] <Mushrooms> PoetOfShadows: ok, i'll boot into an older kernel and download that package
[06:11] <Othor> sebsebseb: not sure if it is multi protocall just happen to see that the other day on my google home page
[06:11] <stormchas2000> Vista is the reason I went to Ubuntu, I saw to many problems, and I had enough issues to say bye to Windows completely
[06:11] <jontec> sanjud: what do you mean? I am trying to get the card connected to an ad-hoc network... the settings get set for the card, but I'm not convinced that the card is installed
[06:11] <bruce89> vineeth: gnash isn't an IM client
[06:11] <sebsebseb> vineeth: and it meant free as in freedom in that thing not price, so the closed source version is also free as in price
[06:11] <bruce89> Othor: it is
[06:12] <cherubael> anyone out there playing around with XFCE 4.6
[06:12] <sebsebseb> vineeth: ok how much RAM do you have?
[06:12] <PoetOfShadows> cherubael: me
[06:12] <sebsebseb> cherubael: nope not yet
[06:12] <sebsebseb> does  Jaunty Jakealope provide  XFCE 4.6 in repo?
[06:12] <bruce89> !info xfce jaunty
[06:12] <cherubael> you had any issues with function keys not working
[06:12] <bruce89> !info xfwm jaunty
[06:12] <vineeth> igb
[06:12] <bruce89> !info xfwm4 jaunty
[06:13] <stormchas2000> I have a laptop that was hit by lightening, so it isn't running to good, but I put Puppy linux on it and it runs alomost as good as new
[06:13] <sebsebseb> yep  I wlll upgrade to the beta :)
[06:13] <sebsebseb> beta is soon
[06:13] <sanjud> jontec-> settings get set but you are not convinced the card is installed?
[06:13] <bruce89> not that the label means anything
[06:13] <sebsebseb> stormchas2000: ok nice story, but nothing to do with Ubuntu support
[06:13] <bruce89> !ot
[06:14] <stormchas2000> sorry
[06:14] <bruce89> no need to be, I just like bots
[06:14] <sebsebseb> stormchas2000: which distro did it have on it before?  and yeah puppy seems nice, but I only had  limited trying in a vm
[06:14] <PoetOfShadows> he really does
[06:14] <sebsebseb> !bot |  bruce89
[06:14] <Mushrooms> PoetOfShadows: "startupmanager" grub and splash screen configuration  <- this one sound right to you?
[06:14] <gladiator> is hibernate / suspend related to compiz?
[06:14] <sebsebseb> maybe
[06:15] <sebsebseb> to some extent
[06:15] <jontec> sanjud: should I be convinced? I am not convinced because I don't remember installing it and I can't see an entry for the card in lspci... there's only an ethernet card listed (unless they are coupled). This is on kubuntu 8.10
[06:15] <PoetOfShadows> Mushrooms: yep, that sounds like the one
[06:15] <stormchas2000> it had ubuntu but it ran slow due to the processor damage
[06:15] <Mushrooms> PoetOfShadows: ok, giving that a shot now
[06:15] <SeaPhor> gladiator, yes it is
[06:15] <sebsebseb> stormchas2000: ok well  with the correct distro Linux breathes life into old hardware, but by the sounds of it does into screwed up hardware as well, but one  day your lap top might screw up properly if using damaged processor
[06:15] <gladiator> SeaPhor: so it can potentially fix the hibernate issue if i disable it?
[06:15] <stormchas2000> i run ubuntu on everything else
[06:16] <SeaPhor> gladiator, possibly, let me guess.. ati?
[06:16] <stormchas2000> when it finally dies i will replace the whole thing,
[06:17] <sanjud> jontec-> can you post the results of iwconfig; ifconfig;  route -n; cat /etc/network/interfaces  ?
[06:17] <sebsebseb> stormchas2000: ok
[06:17] <gladiator> SeaPhor: graphic card? NVdia
[06:17] <sebsebseb> stormchas2000: how did your lap top get struck by lightning anyway?
[06:17] <risingfish> is this where I can get help with sound/mic issue
[06:17] <sebsebseb> !sound
[06:17] <SeaPhor> gladiator, either way,,, yes
[06:17] <sebsebseb> !mic
[06:17] <stratman4300> Hello all, I'm dialing out to the internet using a CDMA wireless card which obtains a new ip address with every connection. It works fine except everytime it connects i have to update the route manually before any traffic will pass. Any thoughts on automating this??
[06:17] <risingfish> ?
[06:17] <risingfish> microphone
[06:18] <stormchas2000> my house down in florida was hit knocked out everything, I had to replace a TV, and Two computers
[06:18] <jontec> sanjud: yes, I will pastebin... one sec
[06:18] <Jordan_U> stratman4300: You have to update the default gateway?
[06:18] <sebsebseb> stormchas2000: heh I see
[06:19] <risingfish> you know.. sometimes people make bots sound a little to human like... :)
[06:19] <stratman4300> jordan_u: Correct...  everytime i reconnect the modem obtains a new address.....  and no traffic flows until I run route add default gw (new address here)
[06:19] <SeaPhor> gladiator, i am a linux tester for HP, and all of the power-management tests have to be done twice- once with compiz enabled, and again with disabled
[06:19] <Jordan_U> stratman4300: Are you connecting via network-manager? It's odd that the connection gets an ip address from DHCP ( I assume ) but not the default gateway
[06:20] <ExistentialTech> SeaPhor: I want your job
[06:20] <gladiator> SeaPhor: you are? i have an HP!
[06:20] <SeaPhor> ExistentialTech, trust me,,, no you dont...lol
[06:20] <Mushrooms> PoetOfShadows: very nice, just reconfigured, and rebooting now
[06:21] <ExistentialTech> SeaPhor, suppose it sounds better written down?
[06:21] <gladiator> SeaPhor: so that means that its not a compiz issue?
[06:21] <PoetOfShadows> Mushrooms: hope that this one works
[06:21] <stratman4300> jordan_u yes i'm using the network-manager...  it also works after a reconnect if i disconnect my local network cable...  it's like the gateway on the local eth0 needs to be updated everytime a new ppp connection is made
[06:21] <risingfish> SeaPhor: I have a pavilion dv 9500t. out of curiosity, when testing my sound capture device, do you knwo what hise means? gconfaudiosrc ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink profile=chat: Could not open audio device for recording.
[06:22] <tcm> hello
[06:22] <Mushrooms> PoetOfShadows: yeah it's awesome, i see my wifi card's lights light up now, seems to work.
[06:22] <Jordan_U> stratman4300: How are you determining what to enter as the default gateway?
[06:22] <PoetOfShadows> Mushrooms: that's great
[06:22] <PoetOfShadows> Mushrooms: glad I could be of service
[06:22] <jontec> sanjud: http://pastie.org/410706
[06:22] <Mushrooms> PoetOfShadows: thanks for your help, i guess, i'll skip the next kernel update until .24
[06:22] <SeaPhor> gladiator, it is and it isnt,,, right now the graphix card ppl are trying to come up with a way to support it but because windoz cant do it yet they are behind
[06:22] <PoetOfShadows> Mushrooms: unless you wanna have to do this again, I'd do that too
[06:23] <Jordan_U> stratman4300: Ahh, that makes sense as you can only have one default gateway so if you are getting dhcp from multiple sources I see how it could cause problems
[06:23] <stratman4300> Jordan_U I'm entering the IP that the ppp device obtains when it connects. It's issued a new address by the ISP with every reconnect
[06:23] <tcm> 试试
[06:23] <bruce89> !utf | tcm
[06:23] <Mushrooms> PoetOfShadows: hehe, i haven't lost faith in linux _yet_ even though there has been ups and downs
[06:24] <sanjud> jontec-> it looks good
[06:24] <PoetOfShadows> Mushrooms: trust me, I know how you feel
[06:24] <gladiator> windows cant do what? and i dont know much about this stuff but isnt hibernate related more to saving the state of your processes and all on to disk? how is it so dependent on the graphics card?
[06:24] <stratman4300> jordan_U: the local eth0 connection is static....   i need to share this connection out to multiple pcs so it has to be static
[06:24] <wookienz> i have mounted a remote share as root in the fstab file. I wan tot give access to a normal user on the system access to the folder. Presently i am getting permission denied to view the folder as this suer. Do i need to mount it as someone else so that normal users can see the contents?
[06:24] <tcm> i am the first time to  come here
[06:25] <jontec> sanjud: so it's not the card, then? It was installed/setup/configured out of the box?
[06:25] <gladiator> SearPhor: Also, i am reading comments on ubuntuforums and apparently it works like a charm on fedora core 9 :S
[06:25] <SeaPhor> risingfish, that is not hp- specific- that is in whatever your set (default) device drivers output for faults
[06:25] <Jordan_U> stratman4300: If it's sharing to other computers and it's static then you don't have a default gateway related to your eth0 connection, correct?
[06:26] <Mushrooms> PoetOfShadows: thanks again for your help, im going to get back to work now
[06:26] <sanjud> jontec-> well per what you post, it indicates thats it is there.. can you also post the  sudo lshw -C network  results?
[06:26] <PoetOfShadows> Mushrooms: no problem, it's like 1:30 where I live; gotta get to bed
[06:26] <bruce89> 6:30 here
[06:26] <Mushrooms> PoetOfShadows:  lol ok, cya good night
[06:26] <PoetOfShadows> gnight
[06:26] <stratman4300> Jordan_U on the eth0 connection i pointed the PC at itself...  as this machine is going to basically be a glorified router....  should i leave that blank??
[06:26] <sebsebseb> bruce89: oh your from UK as well
[06:27] <bruce89> sebsebseb: no, Scotland
[06:27] <stratman4300> jordan_u: would it then use the gateway obtained by the Dail up connection??
[06:27] <sebsebseb> bruce89: yes which is a part of UK
[06:27] <bruce89> that was an attempt at humour
[06:27] <sebsebseb> bruce89: so like me haven't gone to bed yet?  :d
[06:27] <bruce89> nope
[06:27] <unperson> Hi.  I want to dual boot with Ubuntu and Windows XP.  How large a partition do I need for Windows XP, characteristically?
[06:27] <SeaPhor> sebastien,  (not to some scotts)
[06:27] <Jordan_U> stratman4300: Yes, there should be no default gateway assigned related to eth0 and I think removing the static default gateway should solve the problem
[06:27] <sebsebseb> unperson: depends what your going to use XP for
[06:28] <stratman4300> Jordan_U: k i have to disconnect to test but i'[ll be back. Thanks
[06:28] <dayo> !rsync > dayo
[06:28] <sebsebseb> SeaPhor: maybe so, but like it or not they are part of UK
[06:28] <sanjud> dayo->  why not man rsync
[06:29] <sebsebseb> SeaPhor: ,but yeah they have their own goverment ot
[06:29] <sebsebseb> to
[06:29] <dayo> sanjud: yeah
[06:29] <bruce89> for now
[06:29] <jontec> sanjud: updated at http://pastie.org/410706
[06:29] <unperson> sebsebseb, Clearly, but I'm not looking for an exact figure here, just a ball park.  If I want to run XP, have a couple of games and maybe office installed, what is the ballpark of space required?
[06:29] <SeaPhor> sebastien,  hey back off, I'm from Texas, lol
[06:29] <sebsebseb> unperson: most of Office 2003 and 2007  runs well under Wine
[06:30] <sebsebseb> unperson: plus Ubuntu can have, Open Office, KOffice,  Abiword :),  and Gnumeric
[06:30] <unperson> sebsebseb, My experience is that it's crashes with reasonable regularity.
[06:30] <SeaPhor> unperson, 6g min
[06:30] <Until_It_Sleeps> How do I make my joystick work in Ubuntu?
[06:30] <risingfish> Thanks seaphor. is it better to specify the output device as acl268 (alsa) ubstead if "ALSA - adavanced linus soud architecture">
[06:30] <sanjud> jontec-> yeah it looked good, line 30 confirms your driver is loaded
[06:30] <sebsebseb> unperson: how about running XP in a vm  inside Ubuntu?
[06:31] <SeaPhor> unperson, that allows for updates and docs
[06:31] <sebsebseb> unperson: maybe with a dual boot as well depending on your games
[06:31] <stormchas2000> Unperson,  I made a mistake and didn't give windows enough partition   so I found that i just live with it and so far everything I needed was here except a few windows only apps.
[06:31] <unperson> sebsebseb, The others are fine programs (probably my preference) but sometimes you have to jointly edit stuff in MS formats and conversion issues are too much.
[06:31] <sebsebseb> unperson: I see ok
[06:31] <stormchas2000> so I guess figure out what is only used on windows and then select the size you need for those apps
[06:32] <sebsebseb> unperson: well you can have XP inside Ubuntu and do MS Office there
[06:32] <jontec> sanjud: alright, thanks very much :D I'm quite surprised.
[06:32] <unperson> SeaPhor, Okay.  That seems commensurate with numbers I see people using in examples on the web.
[06:32] <SeaPhor> risingfish, no, go with OSS
[06:32] <sebsebseb> unperson: or give it another try with the latest wine, get that by adding the repo from http://www.winehq.org
[06:33] <gladiator> quick question. could it be possible that my hibernate is not working because my ram size is more than my swap space?
[06:33] <unperson> stormchas2000, Live with "it" being Linux?
[06:33] <SeaPhor> unperson, if you're looking at a dual boot tho...
[06:34] <Datz1> Hello, can I use Ubuntu 64bit wubi on windows vista?
[06:34] <sebsebseb> unperson: and the virtual machine software I would recommend is  Virtualbox, and you need the non OSE,  the binary from their site for USB suppourt  http://www.virtualbox.org
[06:34] <sebsebseb> Datz1: Wubi hummmmmm
[06:34] <SeaPhor> unperson, go with min 15 gb, just so you can swap some stuff
[06:34] <sebsebseb> Datz1: you should partition your hard disk :)
[06:35] <Datz1> sebsebseb: But I don't wanna
[06:35] <Datz1> :)
[06:35] <stormchas2000> unperson, whell I decided to find out exactly what Ubuntu could do so I stayed in forums like this a learned, so that I didnt have to use windows anymore   so I choose to live with it meaning i didnt go back and change
[06:35] <Datz1> Also I don't see a 64 bit torrent.  Is there one?
[06:35] <unperson> sebsebseb, I had actually been using crossover, which should perform better than even the latest wine, I think.  But in any case, the reason is sort of the combo of games and the ability to run office occasionally.  I've been trying games under crossover, but some seem to run too slow and many aren't supported at all.
[06:35] <sebsebseb> Datz1: setting up a dual boot is not that difficult, and having  Ubuntu inside the Windows partition is not a very good idea,  for obvious reasons, think about it what happens if Windows screws up properly,  well then Ubuntu does as well
[06:35] <stratman4300> Jordan_U: that appears to have fixed the issue...  i reconnected 3 times....  got 3 different addresses and i didn't have to update the default gw once :)
[06:35] <SeaPhor> unperson, unless you're needing bare minimums, ten 10g
[06:35] <stratman4300> Jordan_U: thanks i appreciate the help :D
[06:36] <unperson> SeaPhor, Thanks for the advice.  That's very helpful.
[06:36] <Jordan_U> stratman4300: np :)
[06:36] <sebsebseb> unperson: well how about  Windows on a dual boot for games, but also in a vm for Office?
[06:36] <Datz1> sebsebseb: I have dual boot set up on my other machine, I kinda want wubi on my laptop.
[06:36] <unperson> SeaPhor, Honestly, the last time I ran windows was Win2000, so I don't know what to expect from XP.
[06:36] <sebsebseb> Datz1: well quite a lot of people woudn't recommend it :)  not just me
[06:36] <sebsebseb> Datz1: ,but wubi will probably be ok,  unless  your Vista buggers up properly and then so does Ubuntu
[06:37] <Datz1> I just want to know if there is a problem installing a 64bit wubi on a 32 vista system
[06:37] <Until_It_Sleeps> !help joystick
[06:37] <sebsebseb> Datz1: probably no problem at all
[06:37] <Until_It_Sleeps> erm...
[06:37] <Until_It_Sleeps> !joystick
[06:37] <WebcamWonder> Datz1: Shouldn't be
[06:37] <sebsebseb> Datz1: wubi has a 64bit version????//
[06:37] <Datz1> sebsebseb: I don't know.
[06:37] <unperson> stormchas2000, This will actually be the first time I'll be using Windows on one of my computers in years.
[06:37] <Datz1> partially why I came here.  :)
[06:37] <SeaPhor> unperson, this is way off topic for channel, if you want OT go to #ubuntu-ot or my channel, #seaphor
[06:37] <WebcamWonder> sebsebseb: Yeah, it does
[06:37] <someABC> hello, where could I find some java projects to volunteer with
[06:38] <Until_It_Sleeps> Datz1: Do you have a 64 bit CPU installed?
[06:38] <sebsebseb> !ot  | someABC
[06:38] <Datz1> Until_It_Sleeps: Yes
[06:38] <sanjud> someABC-> bleeding edge? join apache cocoon2 projects
[06:38] <Datz1> CPU = T7200 ;)
[06:38] <unperson> SeaPhor, That's cool.  All I wanted was info about the partitioning for dual booting, which seemed to be on topic too me.
[06:38] <C0nn0R_> .window 1
[06:38] <C0nn0R_> sorry
[06:38] <sebsebseb> unperson: why wubi on  lap top?
[06:39] <Datz1> thats what I am going after too.
[06:39] <gladiator> how do i disable compiz?
[06:39] <someABC> sanjud -> thank you
[06:39] <stormchas2000> unperson, oh ok, well i can say this for me I should have left 10 to 15 gigs, in order to use windows properly, so you will need enough to load the programs and windows plus an addtional 10 to 15 gigs min.
[06:39] <WebcamWonder> gladiator: System -> Prefs -> Apperence -> Visual Effects -> None
[06:39] <FlareDS> gladiator: run metacity --replace
[06:40] <sebsebseb> stormchas2000: yeah that sounds about right at least 10GB  for XP
[06:40] <unperson> stormchas2000, Thanks for your input.
[06:40] <sebsebseb> unperson: yep what I just said
[06:40] <gladiator> thanks WebcamWonder, FlareDS
[06:40] <SeaPhor> gladiator, go to system>Pref...>appearance
[06:40] <FlareDS> gakkun: np
[06:41] <FlareDS> oops
[06:41] <stormchas2000> I am not a tech and I am still new,  what i said was only what would have worked for me.
[06:41] <FlareDS> gladiator: np
[06:41] <risingfish> seaphor: i'm getting sound on the output tests now using oss but i am still unable to record. i did install ubuntu after downloading it. does hp offer any spcific drivers for this?
[06:41] <sebsebseb> SeaPhor: someone beat you to it, and I was going to type it, but I saw that person already beated me to it
[06:41] <unperson> One last question about dual booting.  If the NTFS support good enough at this point that I can just read and write to an NTFS partiton (without needing a FAT32 partition to share data)?
[06:42] <sebsebseb> unperson: yep it is
[06:42] <WebcamWonder> unperson: Yup
[06:42] <Dr_willis> unperson,  has been for some time'
[06:42] <FlareDS> unperson: yeap
[06:42] <unperson> Great.
[06:42] <SeaPhor> sebsebseb, yeah, i type slow, lol
[06:42] <risingfish> seaphor: ie not preinstalloed. i dont knoe if hp offers that optiojn
[06:42] <Othor> unperson: if you are wanting to play new games i would say to use more then 10-15gb some of the games coming out now user upwards to 8gb by them selfs
[06:42] <unperson> Dr_willis, Well, it's been some time since I needed to worry about writing to a windows partition (probably >4 years).
[06:43] <sebsebseb> SeaPhor: I was looking at menu for some reason, even though  I known where that setting is since uhmmmmm let's see.   well  ages ago heh.  I been with Ubuntu since second release.  Fedora Core 2 and 4 before that
[06:43] <mibty> Could anyone let me know if there is away to include scim input engines that is not put in default scim IMEngine path to work with scim so that no root privilege is required? Thanks in advance.
[06:43] <unperson> Othor, Good to know.  I suppose it would be prudent for me to check out the sizes of some games.
[06:43] <FlareDS> sebsebseb: I've been with since dapper
[06:44] <Othor> unperson: np
[06:44] <gladiator> I disabled compiz and tried hibernation. it appears to be working fine. its disappointing though :(
[06:44] <sebsebseb> unperson: Linux has good native games as well.  in fact go to google and put in 42 of the best linux games
[06:44] <reduxify> hello :)
[06:44] <FlareDS> with it*
[06:44] <sebsebseb> unperson: linuxlinks.com or whatever the site was, did quite a few gaming articles 42 of the best wine games etc
[06:44] <wanttotryubuntu> hello
[06:44] <FlareDS> !hi | reduxify
[06:44] <wanttotryubuntu> i am very new
[06:44] <unperson> Dr_willis, Whenever it was I last had to worry about it, reading from NTFS worked by writing either didn't exist at all or was considered unreliable, I think.
[06:44] <sebsebseb> FlareDS: did you use any distro before that?
[06:44] <FlareDS> !ntfs | unperson
[06:45] <wanttotryubuntu> i got a cd from friend .. he says its legal to do it .. is it legal to do it ?
[06:45] <sebsebseb> wanttotryubuntu: ok what do you want help with?
[06:45] <mibty> or Could anyone confirm that the paths in scim is hardcoded so that there is no possibilty using custom input methods without having root privilege?
[06:45] <FlareDS> sebsebseb: nope
[06:45] <sebsebseb> wanttotryubuntu: lol :d :)   yep  100%  free as in price, but also  freedom,  you can learn about that later
[06:45] <reduxify> i have an old ibm 8305 pc that i put xubuntu on.  i get the following error at boot time: MP-BIOS bug: 8254 timer not connected to IO-APIC
[06:45] <SeaPhor> risingfish, i am not a dev at hp, only a tester, and only know what i test, i'm not privy to much else, so not sure what drivers you are referring to
[06:45] <FlareDS> it was my first linux that i had ever messed with
[06:45] <Datz1> I can't find md5 checksum hash for 8.10 to check my iso download.  Are they posted somewhere?
[06:45] <wanttotryubuntu> sebsebseb i am having a problem with it .. it works well at my friends place but it shows me different linux
[06:45] <reduxify> now, i can put noapic in the boot line and it works fine, but i'm wondering if i'm disabling something important, since i don't really know what apic is :p
[06:46] <WebcamWonder> !checksum
[06:46] <sebsebseb> wanttotryubuntu: differnet Linux?????
[06:46] <mibty> it appears that there is a .scim folder in $HOME but replicated scim folders in that directory does not seem to help at all  . . .
[06:46] <WebcamWonder> Datz1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[06:46] <unperson> sebsebseb, Thanks.  In this case it's games I have in hand (gifts and much older stuff that isn't supported on wine AFAIK).  But yeah, there are some good Linux games.  I like wesnoth, for example.
[06:46] <Datz1> WebcamWonder: THanks
[06:46] <WebcamWonder> Datz1: np
[06:46] <sebsebseb> unperson: yeah some good 3D Linux games as well
[06:47] <FlareDS> !md5 | Datz1
[06:47] <wanttotryubuntu> sebsebseb .. yes .. it shows choose language --> english ---> try ubuntu without installing it [Live CD session] .. i click that ---> at my friend's house it shows nice windows like operating system .. but at my house it shows me black BusyBox linux, not ubuntu :(
[06:47] <risingfish> k, no worries. :) I'll keep looking. Thank you for humoring me.
[06:47] <sebsebseb> unperson: as for wine you can get a lot of stuff working if you configure stuff,  http://www.appdb.winehq.org
[06:47] <SeaPhor> unperson, sauerbraten is in the repos ;-)
[06:47] <sebsebseb> wanttotryubuntu: I see ok,  how much RAM does your computer have?
[06:47] <FlareDS> !wine | unperson
[06:48] <wanttotryubuntu> 2 gb
[06:48] <sebsebseb> wanttotryubuntu: hummmmmm odd
[06:48] <SeaPhor> unperson, sauerbraten is in the repos ;-) and sebsebseb
[06:49] <wanttotryubuntu> sebsebseb, i am a financial advisor, so this is a very latest machine .. fully uptodate with Intel quadcore duo extreme processor, original intel DP45SG motherboard, 9800 Gforce gfx card etc etc
[06:49] <sebsebseb> wanttotryubuntu: heh Windows like operating system :D   oh  there's more Windows like distros and such.  ,but anyway uhmmmmm busybox hummmm
[06:49] <wanttotryubuntu> sebsebseb ... ?
[06:49] <sebsebseb> wanttotryubuntu: weird issue,  you should be able to get the live session
[06:50] <FlareDS> Winblows*
[06:50] <reduxify> i've seen the busybox problem before
[06:50] <wanttotryubuntu> sebsebseb .. i have one sata 2 hard drive of 500 gb  and one DVD writer .. again sata connect .. dont know if its sata 1 or 2
[06:50] <blackbyte> or mioo ?
[06:50] <stormchas2000> maybe there is something wrong with the live cd he has
[06:50] <reduxify> it can happen if ubuntu tries to mount a software raid array, for example
[06:50] <reduxify> there's a few others things too
[06:51] <wanttotryubuntu> ok, the friends cd did not work, so i downloaded this --->   same issue .. i could not find one for intel though
[06:51] <wanttotryubuntu> getting filename brb
[06:51] <wanttotryubuntu> ubuntu-8.10-desktop-amd64.iso    <--- may be its only for AMD ? i could not find download for intel
[06:51] <sebsebseb> wanttotryubuntu: ok get the correct CD and md5sum the ISO before burning as well
[06:52] <sebsebseb> wanttotryubuntu: you sure you got 64bit?
[06:52] <FlareDS> intel = i386
[06:52] <FlareDS> not AMD
[06:52] <wanttotryubuntu> mine is a 64 bit processor
[06:52] <sebsebseb> FlareDS: right, but theres 64bit  Intel as well, and the Ubuntu  ISO just calls it all AMD
[06:52] <wanttotryubuntu> this one gives the same busy box too .. brb getting file name
[06:52] <FlareDS> the use the AMD64 one
[06:52] <unperson> sebsebseb, All Core 2 procs are 64-bit
[06:53] <FlareDS> sebsebseb: I know this hehe
[06:53] <wanttotryubuntu> ubuntu-8.04.2-desktop-i386.iso   <--- this one is the CD that friend gave me, it has no problems, it works perfectly at his home
[06:53] <sebsebseb> wanttotryubuntu: ok that's the previous version
[06:53] <sebsebseb> wanttotryubuntu: have you tried 8.10 yet?
[06:53] <unperson> wanttotryubuntu, AMD64 is just the name they use for the 64-bit x86 instructions.  It includes Core 2 chips.
[06:53] <wanttotryubuntu> so why does ubuntu call it AMD only ? its confusing for new people with intel processors
[06:53] <ExistentialTech> Its a legacy name not an Ubuntu thing
[06:54] <sebsebseb> wanttotryubuntu: ,becaus AMD  made 64bit first
[06:54] <wanttotryubuntu> anyways, getting back to the problem , i dont want buysbox linux
[06:54] <Dr_willis> the name AMD was decided ages ago,. :)
[06:54] <sebsebseb> wanttotryubuntu: yes have you treid 8.10?
[06:54] <sebsebseb> wanttotryubuntu: your friend has 8.04 the previous version
[06:54] <movizdb> irc://irc.freenode.net/ubuntu-fr
[06:54] <reduxify> hold on
[06:54] <unperson> wanttotryubuntu, AMD were the first ones to make a 64-bit extension to x86, IIRC, so everyone used to call it that.  Now some people use the term x86_64
[06:54] <wanttotryubuntu> yes, these both versions above do not show me ubuntu .. they show me busybox
[06:54] <Datz1> huh, so if I get AMD64 bit it will work with i386 cpu?
[06:54] <FlareDS> !fr | movizdb
[06:55] <reduxify> wanttotryubuntu: what kind of processor is in your machine?
[06:55] <Dr_willis> wanttotryubuntu,  so for some reason they are crashuing on your machine.
[06:55] <FlareDS> crashing*
[06:55]  * FlareDS is a perfectionist
[06:55] <Dr_willis> Pefrudunctist
[06:55] <wanttotryubuntu> Intel(R)core2quad CPU
[06:55] <Dr_willis> get it right
[06:55] <sebsebseb> wanttotryubuntu: other good Linux distros you can try,  if Ubuntu causes to much problems on your machine
[06:55] <FlareDS> sorry :)
[06:55] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:55] <reduxify> no wonder.
[06:56] <reduxify> he's getting dumped to busybox because of the quad core extension crap.  try the 32-bit version.
[06:56] <Dr_willis> some machines are just quirky.
[06:56] <wanttotryubuntu> Q6600 @ 2.40 gh
[06:56] <unperson> wanttotryubuntu, Busybox is an environment that's used during the boot process of ubuntu.  If your install is screwed up somehow and the boot doesn't complete properly, sometimes you get spit out in the busybox environment.
[06:56] <FlareDS> Dr_willis: :P
[06:56] <unperson> wanttotryubuntu, But that doesn't mean you got "the wrong linux" or anything.
[06:57] <sebsebseb> wanttotryubuntu: you  can try the 32bit version or another Linux distro in 64bit
[06:57] <wanttotryubuntu> ok, i still have a few questions .. my friend's pc is EXACTLY same there is not a single hardware difference
[06:57] <FlareDS> brb
[06:57] <das__> ce_imoet
[06:57] <wanttotryubuntu> then why it works at his place ?
[06:57]  * SeaPhor thinks wanttotryubuntu is a Mr-Sloppy troll, (busybox=deadgiveaway)
[06:58] <sebsebseb> SeaPhor: why?
[06:58] <wanttotryubuntu> seaphor i did not get you but i know what a webtroll is, i do read forums and blogs a lot [ i am related to financial advising and forex treading ]
[06:58] <sebsebseb> wanttotryubuntu: where are you from? India or some where like that?
[06:58] <wanttotryubuntu> yes i am from india seb
[06:58]  * FlareDS laughs
[06:59] <sebsebseb> FlareDS: there was a guy just now from India in fact
[06:59] <sebsebseb> FlareDS: seems some Indians are coming here
[06:59] <wanttotryubuntu> are we not welcomed here ?
[06:59] <sebsebseb> wanttotryubuntu: of course you are
[06:59] <wanttotryubuntu> thank you
[06:59] <wrektjet> no of course u r he didnt mean it like that
[06:59] <sebsebseb> wanttotryubuntu: there's also a channel in your language
[06:59] <FlareDS> no, its just a joke about microsoft
[06:59] <sebsebseb> !in
[07:00] <Brando753> hey im trying to connect to my deskyop (windows) to print help it set for sharing but dosent appear in the SMB browse
[07:00] <wanttotryubuntu> right but i have no trouble speaking/ understanding english
[07:00] <sebsebseb> ok
[07:00] <sebsebseb> ubuntuforums.org
[07:00] <sebsebseb> that may be able to help as well
[07:00] <wanttotryubuntu> well, with that settled, me and my friend we both bought our pcs exactly the same, then how is that i386 cd boots well at his pc ?
[07:01]  * SeaPhor apologizes to wanttotryubuntu , was actually commenting on the terminology and now has wasted everyone's time
[07:01] <Dr_willis> Brando753,  ive had a lot of issues with the gnome 'share' briowsing features.. I always seem to end up typing in the proper share path,  then it pops up a dialog for the user/password.. THEN i book mark it once it does get to the share.
[07:01] <sebsebseb> wanttotryubuntu: you can also try another Linux distro,  seems you want Windows like well  Mandriva maybe then
[07:01] <wanttotryubuntu> no need to apologize seaphor, it was just a misunderstanding =)
[07:01] <sebsebseb> wanttotryubuntu: and their channel is #mandriva
[07:01] <sebsebseb> wanttotryubuntu: however Ubuntu is a great distro when it works
[07:01] <FlareDS> wanttotryubuntu: Have ever heard the joke about Microsoft's support being in India?
[07:01] <Flannel> FlareDS: Please keep it on topic.
[07:02] <sanskumar> join #php
[07:02] <wanttotryubuntu> FlareDS many BPOs and call centers are actually having multiple hubs in india
[07:02] <wanttotryubuntu> yes i would like that too .. thanks Flannel
[07:02] <FlareDS> Flannel: I know
[07:02]  * FlareDS hides
[07:02] <sebsebseb> wanttotryubuntu: yes and that's what the joke is about,  the Microsoft joke
[07:02] <Flannel> wanttotryubuntu: How about you try and fix his issues instead of being dumb about it?
[07:02] <Flannel> er, sebsebseb ^^
[07:03] <Dr_willis> :)
[07:03] <wanttotryubuntu> sebsebseb so how is exactly is that i386 cd works at his place and not mine ?
[07:03] <sebsebseb> Flannel: I don't know why he is getting those issues, or I would help
[07:03] <Flannel> wanttotryubuntu: Have you tried from the same CDs? or are they different?  Could it be a burn issue?
[07:03] <Flannel> sebsebseb: If you can't help someone, that doesn't give you permission to antagonize them.
[07:03] <reduxify> true, is it the same CD or did you burn a copy?
[07:03] <Fahmy> hey guys
[07:03] <Fahmy> bruce89
[07:03] <sebsebseb> Flannel: I didn't make the Microsoft joke
[07:03] <FlareDS> Sorry
[07:04] <FlareDS> Won't happen again
[07:04] <wanttotryubuntu> ok this is what all i have done --> i386 cd friends home it worked .. mine it didnt .. so downloaded fresh i386 from web .. burnt it properly [ red instructions didnt burn iso as file, burnt it as a proper bootable image ] .. booted .. busybox
[07:04] <FlareDS> hmm
[07:04] <sebsebseb> FlareDS: don't worry about it :)   ,but be careful of Flannel he is an op and might kick you :d
[07:04] <Flannel> wanttotryubuntu: Have you tried the "check CD for defects" option on the boot menu?
[07:05] <wanttotryubuntu> yes, it shows ubuntu loading screen for some time and then goes to busybox again
[07:05] <FlareDS> sebsebseb: oh i know I'm a op helper so yeah
[07:05] <wrektjet> id like to ask advice... im gonna be putting together a computer later on today and installing ubuntu (i hope-fingers crossed)
[07:05] <wanttotryubuntu> again this happens with BOTH i386 and AMD 64 cds , plus i was careful to burn these 2 at 16x speed no more
[07:05] <wanttotryubuntu> and i used CDs not DVDs
[07:05] <Flannel> wanttotryubuntu: Alright, so that means it could be a burn issue.  Try re-burning, at a slower speed.  We recommend 4x or so, if you can do it.
[07:05] <FlareDS> wanttotryubuntu: same configuration as your friends?
[07:05] <Flannel> wanttotryubuntu: Can you try the same CD that worked on your friends computer?
[07:05] <wrektjet> is there any issue about installing windows second versus ubuntu second
[07:05] <Fahmy> any1 while isntalling ubunto i got stuck att "who r u" step 5 of 7, the keyboard is not working. although i can move the mouse arrow. can u help me out ?
[07:05] <wanttotryubuntu> FlareDS  EXACTLY 100% same confing .. not a SINGLE change
[07:06] <Flannel> wrektjet: That's actualy the easier way to do it.
[07:06] <FlareDS> hmmm very weird
[07:06] <sebsebseb> wrektjet: it will go over Grub, but you can put that back on
[07:06] <sebsebseb> !grub
[07:06] <Flannel> wrektjet: er, Ubuntu second is easier.  Windows second means you have to do some extra steps
[07:06] <wrektjet> flannel: i read about grub
[07:06] <Fahmy> plz help me in that [07:06] <wanttotryubuntu> if you want me to collect and post some data or information about my system / hardware, and if u tell me, i think i will be able to do it
[07:07] <FlareDS> I'll brb
[07:07] <Flannel> wanttotryubuntu: Unfortunately, just because you bought identical computers (same model, etc) doesn't mean theyre the same hardware.  But we likely won't need your hardware specs.
[07:07] <stormchas2000> fahmy what kind of keyboard do you have
[07:07] <wrektjet> flannel: so windows first is actually easier, but not the end of the world if i do it the other way around (ubuntu first)
[07:07] <Fahmy> stormchas2000 i am using compac nx7000 laptop
[07:07] <sebsebseb> wrektjet: yep exactly
[07:08] <Flannel> wrektjet: right.
[07:08] <wrektjet> flannel: as i dont actually own a copy of windows at the moment
[07:08] <wrektjet> :)
[07:08] <FlareDS> I'm back
[07:08] <Flannel> wrektjet: Yeah, you just install windows, then reinstall grub to your MBR, then add the windows entry in your boot menu.
[07:09] <stormchas2000> um fahmy you might try using a serial keyboard,, I know that sometimes a usb will act up when installing,   I dont know about laptop keyboards
[07:09] <Fahmy> ok
[07:09] <Flannel> wanttotryubuntu: One thing you may try is installing from the Alternate CD instead of the Desktop CD.
[07:09] <wrektjet> flannel, sebseb: thanks for the advice. ill be back in like 20 hours or so, hopefully on my new computer!(flannel: that doesnt sound like too much trouble. when the time comes...)
[07:10] <wanttotryubuntu> ok will try that but now i am curious to why this is happening
[07:10] <wanttotryubuntu> [ btw i called my hardware guy but he said its a virus and i will have to format my hard drive, but i KNOW that he has no idea what ubuntu is ]
[07:11] <FlareDS> wanttotryubuntu: Same thing happened to me
[07:11] <wanttotryubuntu> if i am booting from live cd, and even though there is a virus on hard drive, linux cant or shouldnt be hurt by it i suppose? [ though i have latest panda antivirus and there is no virus on my system ]
[07:11] <Don_Miguel> wanttotryubuntu, you need a new hardware gu !
[07:11] <Fahmy> hey guys
[07:11] <Flannel> wanttotryubuntu: No, a window virus can't affect a CD you boot from.
[07:11] <pibe86> hello, i have installed skype and my is not working, any link?
[07:11] <Fahmy> which keyboard should i install for the laptops ???
[07:12] <wanttotryubuntu> ok, so how do i get out of the black box ?
[07:12] <wanttotryubuntu> busybox*
[07:12] <FlareDS> wanttotryubuntu: That is correct
[07:12] <Flannel> wanttotryubuntu: Just reboot, and pull the CD out
[07:12] <fuzeboxsoftware> anyone able to tell me why ubuntu is soooo sluggish than my vista?
[07:13] <wanttotryubuntu> Flannel i tried it multiple times, but still it keeps going to busybox .. i want to install it today so that i can get used to the system this week end and start trading again on monday
[07:13] <Flannel> wanttotryubuntu: Take the CD out, and reboot (to Windows), it'll boot to windows, you can grab the alternate CD and burn it, and then boot to that.
[07:13] <wanttotryubuntu> thankcs flannel
[07:14] <fuzeboxsoftware> any tips for speeding up ubuntu?
[07:14] <Fahmy> which keyboard should i install for the laptop ???
[07:14] <Fahmy> plz help me
[07:14] <fuzeboxsoftware> dual core 2 gig ram system, 9500 GT vid card
[07:14] <fuzeboxsoftware> slow crap, vista is putting ubuntu to shame :(\
[07:14] <sajish> hi
[07:15] <Fahmy> hey guys
[07:15] <Fahmy> cannt u see me >?
[07:15] <Fahmy> which keyboard should i install for the laptop ???
[07:15] <Flannel> !repeat | Fahmy
[07:15] <sajish> how do i restore vist boot loader
[07:15] <Fahmy> !patience
[07:15] <Fahmy> ok
[07:15] <wanttotryubuntu> okies, which alternate cd to choose ?
[07:16] <mudit> i need to look what application is using a specific port ?, how to do it ?
[07:16] <Fahmy> Flannel if u give me hand, i will be thamnkful for u
[07:16] <FlareDS> wanttotryubuntu: try the amd64 first
[07:16] <sajish> Vista???
[07:16] <sajish> anyone?
[07:17] <FlareDS> mudit: goto system, admin, network tools
[07:17] <FlareDS> !windows | sajish
[07:17] <stormchas2000> Sajish I dont know much about vista  but I think you need a vista disk if it has been erased
[07:18] <Flannel> Fahmy: What version of Ubuntu are you trying to install?
[07:18] <Fahmy> Flannel the newest one. i jsut downlaoded it from the website and burned it
[07:18] <mudit> well i see that my TCP port 1935 is being listened too, but i dont see the application name
[07:19] <Flannel> Fahmy: alright. Try completing the install using the onscreen keyboard.
[07:19] <mudit> neither the PID ?
[07:19] <stormchas2000> Fahmy I think if your laptop keybaord will not work you will have to go and get a keyboard with a serial ps2 plug. then after the loading of ubuntu you will probably find the driver for your built in keyboard
[07:20] <olegb> mudit: netstat -na | grep foo ?
[07:20] <mudit> olegb: this is all I get >> tcp6       0      0 :::1935                 :::*                    LISTEN
[07:22] <xy|ox> mudit, sudo netstat -putan
[07:23] <Brando753> hey im trying to connect to my deskyop (windows) to print help it set for sharing but dosent appear in the SMB browse
[07:23] <Brando753> it wi,l not ocnnect
[07:23] <Brando753> connect
[07:24] <mudit> okies, got it its some Java , thanks ! FlareDS,olegb,xy|ox
[07:24] <freshtonic> I'm thinking about installing the latest build of jaunty on my desktop machine.  What's the stability like and are there any issues with NVidia drivers?
[07:27] <Fahmy> what is the intial user/pass for ubunto ???
[07:27] <eTranquility> Hi, I'm running 8.10. It seems like none of my applications can connect to the internet except for Firefox and Pidgin. This happened suddenly and I don't know what's wrong. How can I fix it?
[07:28] <woonix> Fahmy: It's whatever you set it to when you were asked in the installer
[07:28] <Fahmy> woonix i could not do it
[07:28] <U-b-u-n-t-u> is there anyway to make 8.04 show the cpu by default in the system monitor like with 8.14
[07:28] <Lyrra> Does anyone know of a way to use the Winpopup protocol from ubuntu to a vista machine?
[07:29] <Lyrra> I know the smbclient command but it gives me an error message
[07:30] <Lyrra> session request failed
[07:31] <eTranquility> I'm thinking it might be a proxy thing but that would be strange since I don't use one.
[07:34] <b1n42y> Is there a difference between readahead and preload ?
[07:35] <SandGorgon> !remastersys
[07:35] <eTranquility> And it's really frustrating because I can't use synaptic. =/ Anyone?
[07:36] <john_> www.google.com/linux
[07:38] <stormchas2000> wow it got quiet
[07:39] <SandGorgon> guys... is remastersys the best way to make a custom livecd .. of my current system ? I want to distribute it to friends
[07:39] <s3a> is there a ubuntu application that allows me to see if my hard drive is failing?
[07:41] <john_> because everyone is watching what i discover :)
[07:41] <stormchas2000> 2 good questions and i dont have an answer   I am new myself
[07:41] <{bosco}> anyone ever installed safari in ubuntu other than through wine????
[07:42] <quibbler> b1n42y: Preload:- Fast application startup- Slow boot - Small memory usage ...Readahead:- Fast application startup- Fast boot time- Big memory consumption
[07:42] <enzotib> !offtopic | john_
[07:42] <john_> {bosco}: :S safari? why you need it? i have osx and i never use it
[07:42] <{bosco}> john_, i just would like to have it for web testing??
[07:43] <{bosco}> john_,  is it possible
[07:43] <{bosco}> ??
[07:43] <levidos> hello. my add/remove application list is empty. what can i do?
[07:43] <U-b-u-n-t-u> anyone know how to make the system monitor show cpu usage in the panel as the icon
[07:43] <ZykoticK9> s3a, if you believe you HD is failing I'd start by looking through "dmesg" if you see errors (particularly ones repeated again and again) pertaining to your HD chances are it's failing.  I/O Errors, again and again would be fairly good proof of failure.  I'm unaware of any apps that specifically look for HD failure.  Good luck, hope you've got your data backed up.
[07:43] <john_> {bosco}: as far as i know.. it does not.. last time i check it, it was not working with wine.. so doubt there is other way
[07:44] <{bosco}> john_, thanks
[07:44] <john_> {bosco}: anyway.. safari sucks.. i always use FF while in OSX
[07:45] <quibbler> levidos: look here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6396412
[07:45] <ZykoticK9> {bosco}, it is possible to get Safari running on linux, using wine (i had it running under 8.04, did have a problem with fonts)
[07:46] <levidos> thanks quibbler
[07:46] <silv3r_m00n> hi thre
[07:46] <Evelynn> What's the name of package that provides X11 headers ? (something like x11-dev)
[07:47] <silv3r_m00n> how do I open a ms-access mdb database file from jdbc .. ( the data connection string that worked on windows doesn't work here in ubuntu)
[07:47] <quibbler> U-b-u-n-t-u: right click on panel add system monitor
[07:48] <crdlb> Evelynn: try libx11-dev
[07:48] <Athenon> How would I write a linux command to replace all instances of A with B...across an entire directory and all subdirectories?
[07:49] <Athenon> ie...if i switched domains and wanted to change it over en masse instead of changing it 100 places
[07:49] <gatyy> oiii
[07:50] <enzotib> Athenon, in filenames or in their content?
[07:50] <Athenon> enzotib:  their content
[07:50] <gatyy> hamm??
[07:51] <U-b-u-n-t-u> quibbler I have it in the panel but its the standard icon I wanted to know if I could change the icon to show the cpu usage
[07:51] <Evelynn> crdlb: thanks
[07:51] <enzotib> Athenon, something like (better asked in #bash): find /dir -type f -exec sed -i 's/A/B/g' {} \;
[07:51] <gatyy> eiiii...
[07:51] <gatyy> ........
[07:52] <quibbler> U-b-u-n-t-u: it shows a graph...do you mean as a number %
[07:52] <U-b-u-n-t-u> quibbler I am using 8.04 but I saw it like that with a friends computer installed with 8.14
[07:52] <b1n42y> quibbler, so i shouldnt have both running then
[07:52] <gatyy> vc e de onde????
[07:52] <gatyy> repita meu link
[07:52] <gatyy> plisss
[07:53] <U-b-u-n-t-u> quibbler the icon is just a standard icon for the system manager now but I wanted to change it to show the cpu usage while in the panel
[07:53] <gatyy> plisssssssssss
[07:53] <gatyy> hamm?///
[07:53] <Gnea> !english | gatyy
[07:53] <Flannel> !br | Gnea
[07:53] <quibbler> b1n42y: depends what you want...if you have the memory use both
[07:53] <Flannel> er,
[07:53] <Flannel> !br | gatyy
[07:53] <gladiator> hi. i just installed fprint for fingerprint reading. i dont like the behavior and i want to remove it. how can i do that?
[07:53] <Gnea> heh
[07:54] <gatyy> vcs sao de onde?
[07:54] <Gnea> gladiator: sudo apt-get remove fprint
[07:54] <gatyy> falam partugues?
[07:54] <Gnea> gatyy: /join #ubuntu-pt
[07:54] <gladiator> Gnea: will it remove everything?
[07:54] <Gnea> gladiator: you mean all of the dependencies?
[07:55] <john_> gatyy: /join #ubuntu-br
[07:55] <gladiator> Gnea: yes
[07:55] <gladiator> i did this:  sudo apt-get install aes2501-wy fprint-demo libfprint0 libpam-fprint
[07:55] <gatyy> fala espanhoss
[07:55] <gatyy> espanhol**
[07:55] <gatyy> ?
[07:55] <Gnea> gladiator: just replace install with remove then
[07:55] <b1n42y> quibbler, yes you are correct, just found http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=137599  post 5
[07:56] <Gnea> gladiator: that will take care of the dependencies, otherwise no, the one I gave you would only remove fprint
[07:56] <ZykoticK9> gladiator, in your above line simply replace install with remove and it will remove the apps you installed
[07:56] <b1n42y> quibbler, thanks btw
[07:56] <Athenon> enzotib:  awesome.  i had to change /dir to just "www"...other than that, worked like a charm.  thanks.
[07:56] <gladiator> Gnea, Zykotick9 thanls
[07:56] <gladiator> thanks*
[07:56] <quibbler> b1 no problem
[07:56] <gatyy> como faz pra eu coloca em ingles?
[07:57] <gatyy> ?/
[07:57] <gatyy> plissssss
[07:57] <b1n42y> quibbler, just killing unnecessary services on tablet pc ...
[07:57] <prince_jammys> !pt > gatyy
[07:57] <gatyy> falemm comiggoo
[07:57] <laxmi_> hello
[07:57] <gatyy> oii
[07:57] <Flannel> gatyy: /join #ubuntu-pt
[07:57] <gatyy> hello
[07:57] <gatyy> pliiss eu falo francess
[07:57] <laxmi_> can any one help me to change Makefile machine type for srilm?
[07:58] <fuzeboxsoftware> can a video card cause ubuntu to be sluggish?
[07:58] <joot> Flanel, I am sure gatyy is trolling
[07:58] <Gnea> gatyy: Ouça, por favor, não manter a perguntar, estamos aqui só falam Inglês. Portanto, não podemos ajudá-lo. Você precisará deste tipo, a fim de obter ajuda, é sua única opção, caso contrário, você será obrigatoriamente removido: / join # ubuntu-pt
[07:58] <U-b-u-n-t-u> fuzeboxsoftware the windows manager can depending on what you have set in appearance
[07:59] <gatyy> bayy
[07:59] <laxmi_> hello I am from Nepal
[07:59] <gatyy> !
[07:59] <laxmi_> I am facing a problem
[07:59] <Somefool> Korea in the house!
[07:59] <Gnea> laxmi_: go ahead with the problem...
[07:59] <fuzeboxsoftware> U-b-u-n-t-u:  what do you mean?
[07:59] <yagami> test
[08:00] <porter1> Woot! Ubuntu jumped correctly :)
[08:00] <laxmi_> I want to install srilm language module in ubuntu but I could not change machine type in its ./Makefile
[08:01] <U-b-u-n-t-u> fuzeboxsoftware if you have a windows manager like compiz and you have the graphics set to visual effect set to extended it can slow things down
[08:01] <yagami> thank you bye
[08:01] <U-b-u-n-t-u> fuzeboxsoftware if you have a windows manager like compiz and you have the visual effect set to extended it can slow things down*
[08:02] <fuzeboxsoftware> U-b-u-n-t-u: I had it on medium, but I just turned it down. It just seems like the firefox browser and just the response of the system is a bit sluggish
[08:02] <Galactic_Ameoba> hey
[08:02] <Gnea> laxmi_: what is 'srilm'?
[08:02] <qO_Op> help
[08:02] <Gnea> !ask | qO_Op
[08:02] <U-b-u-n-t-u> fuzeboxsoftware I was having the same problem and I installed openbox as my windows manager and now its running fast
[08:02] <Galactic_Ameoba> fusebox you should try swiftfox instead, it's faster
[08:02] <qO_Op> EXIT
[08:03] <qO_Op> QUIT
[08:03] <qO_Op> help
[08:03] <qO_Op> bye
[08:03] <Gnea> qO_Op: like this:  /help  /exit  /quit
[08:03] <laxmi_> # SRILM = /home/laxmi/srilm
[08:03] <stormchas2000> good night all  talk to you later
[08:03] <laxmi_> it is a language module for statistical MT
[08:03] <Gnea> MT?
[08:04] <laxmi_> MACHINE_TYPE := $(shell $(SRILM)/sbin/machine-type)
[08:04] <fuzeboxsoftware> installing openbox now
[08:04] <laxmi_> but does not work
[08:04] <fuzeboxsoftware> U-b-u-n-t-u: What exactly is openbox and why is it better than what comes with ubuntu?
[08:05] <Pengu> openbox is a window manager
[08:05] <b1n42y> fuzeboxsoftware, i believe its a lightweight DE
[08:05] <U-b-u-n-t-u> fuzeboxsoftware I didnt say it was better but lighter (uses less cpu)... I was using compiz as my windows manager and everything was a little slower
[08:05] <Gnea> laxmi_: http://coco-lab.org/Elgg/timo/weblog/59.html
[08:06] <laxmi_> I will try it
[08:06] <prince_jammys> fuzeboxsoftware: it's a light window manager. whether it's better is a matter of preference/needs
[08:06] <prince_jammys> fluxbox is another
[08:07] <ashgadgets> Hey, I do have a small question
[08:07] <ashgadgets> I cant use my wacom tablet
[08:07] <ashgadgets> I can use it as a secondary display
[08:07] <prince_jammys> fuzeboxsoftware: i find firefox to be too slow for me in ubuntu, also.
[08:07] <ashgadgets> but not as a Touchscreen :(
[08:07] <durt> fluxbox is based on open box I believe, in the repos is lxde which is also based on openbox
[08:08] <fuzeboxsoftware> Its not just firefox, the system as a whole is sluggish and its really bothersome...I really want to make the switch from vista to ubuntu, but don't like the sluggish
[08:08] <quibbler> U-b-u-n-t-u: in synaptic search for hardware-monitor install it and add to panel and you can set the icon as you like
[08:08] <U-b-u-n-t-u> quibbler,  thanks!
[08:09] <Athenon> i have xemacs on my remote server...but i dont know how to get it to run on my local x server (windows vista, xming)
[08:09] <Athenon> i enabled x11 tunneling.
[08:09] <durt> fuzeboxsoftware: specs?
[08:10] <fuzeboxsoftware> durt: amd athlon dual core: 2.4 ghz, 2 gigs ram, 9500GT nivida card
[08:10] <ZykoticK9> Athenon, on your Vista machine when you create the ssh connection do you also have an option to enable X tunneling?  ie. X forwarding must be enabled on both the server and the client.  good luck.
[08:10] <fuzeboxsoftware> dual: dual booting ubuntu+vista
[08:10] <Athenon> ZykoticK9:  yeah.  its enabled.
[08:10] <ZykoticK9> Athenon, on both...
[08:10] <durt> why would ubuntu be slow on that?
[08:11] <ZykoticK9> Athenon, have you tried any other X apps?
[08:11] <Athenon> ZykoticK9:  not yet.  hang on.
[08:11] <Pengu> fuzeboxsoftware: how did you install Ubuntu, and was it on an external drive?
[08:11] <durt> or was it the live cd?
[08:11] <fuzeboxsoftware> i installed by cdrom
[08:12] <fuzeboxsoftware> well
[08:12] <fuzeboxsoftware> it had the option to run live cd or do an install
[08:12] <fuzeboxsoftware> i just ran the install
[08:12] <Pengu> How large is your partition?
[08:12] <fuzeboxsoftware> umm
[08:12] <Athenon> ZykoticK9:  root@subaru:/home/athenon/irc/inspircd/conf# xcalc
[08:12] <Athenon> Error: Can't open display:
[08:12] <dayo> in pidgin the bonjour protocol lets u chat on an intranet, without actually being on the internet. but the account is not password-protected like yahooIM, aim, msn etc. are there any apps that are password-protected intranet chats?
[08:13] <fuzeboxsoftware> around a 100 gigs, not sure exactly
[08:13] <Bigmoos> Does anyone know how to get America's Army for Ubuntu ?
[08:13] <Bigmoos> (the game)
[08:13] <fuzeboxsoftware> Bigmoos: think you have to run it in wine
[08:13] <defrysk> no
[08:13] <Pengu> fuzeboxsoftware: Does it run slowly without compiz affects on?
[08:13] <prince_jammys> Athenon: did you ssh -X  or -Y ?
[08:14] <devilsadvocate>  hi. my aptitude refuses to install anything since it says it cant find rhythmbox package. can anyone help me fix this issue?
[08:14] <ZykoticK9> Athenon, can you verify on the server with "cat /etc/ssh/sshd_config | grep X" that "X11Forwarding yes"
[08:14] <defrysk> is available for linux
[08:14] <Athenon> prince_jammys:  i jsut opened my ssh client XD
[08:14] <Pengu> Based on your specs, Ubuntu should run fine.
[08:14] <fuzeboxsoftware> defrysk: didn't know that :)
[08:14] <Bigmoos> defrysk, It is /
[08:14] <Athenon> ZykoticK9:  root@subaru:/home/athenon/irc/inspircd/conf# cat /etc/ssh/sshd_config | grep X
[08:14] <Athenon> X11Forwarding yes
[08:14] <Bigmoos> fuzeboxsoftware, where can I download it ?
[08:14] <fuzeboxsoftware> Pengu: umm, its still a bit sluggish
[08:14] <Athenon> prince_jammys:  no...i use secureshell client for windows
[08:14] <fuzeboxsoftware> Bigmoos: Not sure for the linux version
[08:15] <defrysk> Bigmoos, http://americasarmy.filefront.com/file/AASF_Direct_Action_v25_Linux_Full_Install;49654
[08:15] <ZykoticK9> Athenon, I'm afraid I don't have any further suggestions.  In linux when i get this error it is because I forgot to add "-Y" to the ssh connection, but on Windows - I got nothin'.  Good luck.
[08:15] <Bigmoos> defrysk, "http://38.118.213.145/6sngz1f4u5+/gamingfiles/Americas_Army/Official_Releases/Full_Install/armyops250linux.run/X6" = Only one connection to the server is supported, so if you are using a download manager that attempts to establish multiple connections, you will receive this error.
[08:16] <ZykoticK9> Athenon, do you have an X server running in Vista?
[08:16] <Bigmoos> defrysk, wait there it started
[08:16] <Athenon> ZykoticK9:  xming.  yep.
[08:16] <ZykoticK9> Athenon, sorry... I got nothin'...
[08:16] <fuzeboxsoftware> Pengu: Any ideas how I can fix this sluggishness?
[08:17] <defrysk> Bigmoos, check google for a howto install it
[08:17] <Pengu> fuzeboxsoftware: I'm really not sure what the problem is. It could be the graphics drivers. Have you not installed them?
[08:17] <defrysk> Bigmoos, its probably sh blah.tur
[08:17] <defrysk> Bigmoos, its probably sh blah.run , sorry
[08:17] <Bigmoos> defrysk, it seems it's just bash , or sh file.run
[08:17] <fuzeboxsoftware> Pengu: I have read that the graphics driver might be the problem. I was trying to confirm that. It took me forever to install it and was a pain.
[08:17] <defrysk> Bigmoos, yes
[08:18] <Bigmoos> what's the difference in bash and sh?
[08:18] <Bigmoos> I always remember bash
[08:18] <Bigmoos> before sh
[08:18] <Bigmoos> aren't they both just terminals
[08:18] <fuzeboxsoftware> Thought bash and sh were the same
[08:18] <Pengu> Did you install a proprietary one?
[08:18]  * defrysk usually uses sh
[08:18] <fuzeboxsoftware> Pengu: Not sure to be honest...I know I had to configure the xorg.conf and stuff
[08:18] <fuzeboxsoftware> Pengu: Had some help doing it, so not sure.
[08:18] <prince_jammys> Bigmoos: bash has more features. ubuntu's sh is dash, which is a very basic Bourne family shell
[08:19] <prince_jammys> neither are terminals
[08:19] <Bigmoos> prince_jammys, so in general, it doesn't matter which one I use ?
[08:19] <Pengu> When you go to system > administrator > hardware drivers, what does it tell you?
[08:19] <ZykoticK9> Bigmoos, actually sh came before bash; they are NOT the same - but in Linux it's not possible to get a true sh shell (in FreeBSD, Solaris you can)
[08:19] <Bigmoos> mmmmmmmkay
[08:20] <prince_jammys> Bigmoos: if you're just running programs, it doesn't matter.
[08:20] <fuzeboxsoftware> propritary drivers are being used to make this computer run correctly, Pengu
[08:20] <Pengu> Why did you need help installing the driver?
[08:20] <fuzeboxsoftware> Pengu: Well, when I first installed Ubuntu and enabled the driver, it crashed the XServer
[08:21] <fuzeboxsoftware> And needed help getting it back up
[08:21] <Pengu> I see.
[08:21] <fuzeboxsoftware> Had to configure the xorg and etc.
[08:21] <fuzeboxsoftware> Has 3 of them
[08:21] <fuzeboxsoftware> 1 of them worked, but didn't fully utilize the card
[08:21] <fuzeboxsoftware> and the latest one did, but crashed, so thinking, maybe this might be causing my probs?
[08:22] <fuzeboxsoftware> the sluggish prob that is
[08:22] <Pengu> fuzeboxsoftware: I'm not entirely sure how to correct it, but I'm fairly sure you're right in thinking it has to do with the driver itself
[08:22] <fuzeboxsoftware> Pengu: Might try to enable the others and see if my problem eases down, if so, then I am on the right track
[08:23] <Pengu> I'd guess that's your best bet.
[08:24] <morsing> mornign
[08:25] <Pengu> fuze, have you checked this thread? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=887954&page=2
[08:25] <quibbler> morsing: good morning
[08:25] <prof>  hello friends, I want to use a command for remounting partition without restarting I've forgotten it (I'm testing fstab in fedora
[08:25] <morsing> :)
[08:25] <morsing> How come upgrading from etch to lenny has removed locate?
[08:25]  * devilsadvocate wonders why ubuntu ibex has a rhythmbox svn build
[08:25] <Flannel> prof: sudo mount -a
[08:25] <prince_jammys> mount -a
[08:25] <morsing> Sorry, wrong channel
[08:25] <morsing> :)
[08:26] <prof> Flannel, Price_jammys thanks
[08:26] <Fahmy> which keyboard map should i use with Laptop ?? plz give me hint
[08:26] <quibbler> morsing: bad morning??!!
[08:27] <kjdro> hi there, is there a way to reset audio hardware from the live-cd session in ubuntu 8.10 ?
[08:27] <technologiclee> how to undo PATH=.:PATH
[08:28] <magnetron> kjdro→ the hardware is reset at every reboot
[08:28] <durt> kjdro: maybe with modprobe?
[08:28] <Fahmy> Flannel
[08:28] <Fahmy> which keybaord layout shoud; i use ???
[08:28] <kjdro> i was using mplayer, then drag&drop another avi file while it was playing one, it hanged, now the soundcard keeps repeating the last tone
[08:28] <prince_jammys> technologiclee: PATH=${PATH#.:}
[08:29] <kjdro> magnetron -> i cant reboot... live cd .. and copying to usb in progress .. :( for sadly more then a day .. 1GB
[08:29] <Fahmy> hey guys
[08:29] <technologiclee> yes exactly prince
[08:29] <prince_jammys> technologiclee: huh?
[08:29] <Fahmy> which keybaord layout shoud; i chose for Laptop whiel isntaling ubunto ???
[08:29] <magnetron> kjdro→ did you lose sound? how?
[08:29] <technologiclee> i left off the $ and ran it changing my PATH
[08:30] <prince_jammys> technologiclee: ah, missed that.
[08:30] <ReX> ...
[08:30] <kjdro> not lose.. still working.. but as explained above... (10:28:24 AM)  now i get a constant buzzing in the background
[08:30] <magnetron> Fahmy→ for most laptops the 105-key default layout will work.
[08:30] <drazak> kjdro: how high are your volumes turned up?
[08:30] <drazak> kjdro: if your master and pcm are both over 90, then it's probably just line noise
[08:30] <ReX> hey... good place to go, just to talk?
[08:31] <Fahmy> magnetron int his option, there r 2 coloumns. the left oen selct the coutnry. then the right one is the inside coutnry selction. i am talkign abt step 3 of 7
[08:31] <baz_> i would like to mount a folder in my /home directory using fstab - is this possible or does fstab have to be user independent?
[08:31] <kjdro> drazak -> it's not line noise..!
[08:31] <kjdro> (10:28:24 AM) kjdro: i was using mplayer, then drag&drop another avi file while it was playing one, it hanged, now the soundcard keeps repeating the last tone
[08:32] <drazak> kjdro: are you sure it's not line noise?
[08:32] <prince_jammys> technologiclee: well, you can paste this for a standard one, PATH=usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games
[08:32] <kjdro> yes
[08:32] <drazak> is it loud or soft?
[08:32] <kjdro> verry absolutly 100% shure
[08:32] <magnetron> Fahmy→ you know what country-layout to choose, right? aren't there a default 102 or 105-key layout to choose in the right-hand list?
[08:32] <kjdro> i had to kill pid of mplayer
[08:32] <errietta> hey can u help i need to see how much memory a proccess uses and how much time it takes but NOT with system monitor because it is a command line program that exits immideately and yeah i have googled and /usr/bin/time doesn't really work cause it brings 0 to everything except CPU plz help
[08:32] <kjdro> and i think i used OpenAL audio output inside mplayer
[08:32] <prince_jammys> technologiclee: or start another shell. what i pasted is missing a leading '/'
[08:33] <fuzeboxsoftware> Pengu: changing driver helped a bit
[08:33] <Fahmy> magnetron no... for usa selction. there r options like dvorak, macnosh. last handeed dvorak., etc
[08:33] <kjdro> durt -> how can i see loaded kernel modules ?
[08:33] <errietta> hello
[08:33] <Fahmy> magnetron none fo them speffy the keybaord
[08:33] <acer_> i desire to buy a dell laptop which kind of them have all functionally in ubuntu?
[08:33] <ZykoticK9> kjdro, lsmod
[08:33] <quibbler> kjdro: try: sudo killall pulseaudio
[08:33] <devilsadvocate> ok. i have this wierd keymapping problem. my quotation marks are not really quotation marks, apostopies, the tilda needs two keypresses to make, etc. anyone here know what i need to fix?
[08:33] <dudus> kjdro: lsmod
[08:34] <errietta> hello????
[08:34] <Pengu> fuzeboxsoftware: A bit?
[08:34] <fuzeboxsoftware> Anyone know the line to bookmark chatzilla in firefox to open in new tab?
[08:34] <kjdro> yeah .. remembered .. lsmod
[08:34] <eTranquility> Hi, I'm running 8.10. It seems like none of my applications can connect to the internet except for Firefox and Pidgin. This happened suddenly and I don't know what's wrong. How can I fix it?
[08:34] <fuzeboxsoftware> Pengu: Yes, so I am guess it is the driver being used
[08:34] <Fahmy> magnetron i can chose any coutnry which makes my computer work.
[08:34] <Fahmy> not necessary my own coutnry
[08:34] <fuzeboxsoftware> Cause the latest one offered support for 3D, the one im using now, only offers 2D
[08:34] <ZykoticK9> eTranquility, are you able to "ping" an internet site currently?
[08:35] <devilsadvocate> eTranquility, are you behind a corporate or institutional firewall?
[08:35] <fuzeboxsoftware> Pengu: I should say, things are not as sluggish
[08:35] <dudus> eTranquility: maybe a dns issue.... try to use the dns numbers from opendns
[08:35] <magnetron> Fahmy→ choose the one that corresponds to the letters on your keyboard
[08:35] <kjdro> quibbler: not solved.. killing pulseaudio didnt work..
[08:35] <baz_> is the best way to mount a disk only when i login to put a *mount* command in rc.local?
[08:36] <Fahmy> magnetron ur guessign does not happen. there is nothing like what u saiod
[08:36] <Bigmoos> oh yes, one other thing.  What can I use to open 7zips? ( 7z's )
[08:37] <prince_jammys> !7z
[08:37] <eTranquility> ZykoticK9: Yes, ping works.
[08:37] <kjdro> dudus: sadly this is the only thing i found in the loaded modules: snd_page_alloc         16136  2 snd_emu10k1,snd_pcm
[08:37] <Fahmy> can u guys help me how to selct the proper keyboard layout for my laptop ?
[08:38] <ZykoticK9> eTranquility, other then apt-get what other programs are NOT working?
[08:38] <kjdro> dudus -> if i remove module .. and install it again.. would it help ?
[08:38] <eTranquility> devilsadvocate, I am not, I believe my connection hasn't changed since it was working.
[08:38] <prince_jammys> Bigmoos: there's a gui app for that in the 'accesories' menu. it says 'archive manager' or similar. that's fileroller
[08:38] <eTranquility> dudus, Thing is, it was working before with no problems, I'm not sure what happened.
[08:38] <dudus> eTranquility: maybe the dns you were using went down...
[08:38] <durt> kjdro: try 'sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart'
[08:38] <kjdro> dudus-> was lying.. turns out i have this as well: snd                    63268  25
[08:39] <kjdro> durt -> was my first try.. didnt work
[08:39] <durt> :(
[08:39] <Bigmoos> prince_jammys, It seems there is also a P7zip
[08:39] <Fahmy> can u guys help me how to selct the proper keyboard layout for my laptop ?
[08:40] <kjdro> $ modprobe -r snd
[08:40] <kjdro> FATAL: Module snd is in use.
[08:40] <technologiclee> where does PATH usually point?
[08:40] <eTranquility> ZykoticK9: Boxee stopped working, can't install firefox plugins (apt-get, I think?), not sure what else to test. The little weather applet that comes with ubuntu that's on my toolbar works, if that's any help?
[08:40] <technologiclee> lee@4620Z:~$ ls
[08:40] <technologiclee> Command 'ls' is available in '/bin/ls'
[08:40] <technologiclee> The command could not be located because '/bin' is not included in the PATH environment variable.
[08:40] <technologiclee> bash: ls: command not found
[08:40] <FloodBot2> technologiclee: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:40] <prince_jammys> technologiclee: PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games
[08:41] <prince_jammys> technologiclee: set your PATH properly or start another shell.
[08:41] <ReX> i know this is the wrong place to ask... but where is a good place to just talk??
[08:41] <durt> !offtopic
[08:41] <quibbler> ReX: #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:41] <dudus> technologiclee: looks like you've been fu**ng around your $PATH
[08:41] <eTranquility> dudus: I have a connection on my other machines (running Windows) and in Windows with my current machine. Firefox and Pidgin work.
[08:41] <ZykoticK9> eTranquility, so IRC/Firefox/weather applet ARE working, but Boxee and apt-get aren't???
[08:41] <ReX> thank you
[08:42] <eTranquility> ZykoticK9: That is correct.
[08:42] <dudus> eTranquility: why are you complaining if you don't try out what we ask? Try to change that dns setting for god sake
[08:42] <kjdro> YEEEESSSS !!!
[08:42] <kjdro> solution: sudo alsa force-reload
[08:43] <durt> woot
[08:43] <kjdro> YESSSS ..YEPPEEe working !!!
[08:43] <kjdro> SOO HAPPY
[08:43] <ZykoticK9> eTranquility, I doubt it's a DNS issue if you can browse the web with Firefox.
[08:43] <kjdro> solong mates...
[08:43] <kjdro> and thx
[08:44] <Fahmy> can u guys help me how to selct the proper keyboard layout for my laptop ?
[08:44] <eTranquility> dudus: I'll be glad to give it a shot, but I have no idea how to do that. (No clue about networking) Would you be willing to walk me through it?
[08:45] <eTranquility> ZykoticK9: If it helps, I use a proxy when at school (I'm not now) but I change the settings ONLY in Firefox.
[08:45] <ZykoticK9> eTranquility, THAT's the problem!
[08:46] <dudus> eTranquility: https://www.opendns.com/start/device/ubuntu
[08:46] <eTranquility> ZykoticK9: I've always just changed it back to not using a proxy in Firefox. Did I break something?
[08:47] <dudus> eTranquility: good luck with that, I gotta go
[08:47] <eTranquility> dudus, Thanks.
[08:47] <ZykoticK9> eTranquility, no but if your network is setup to use a proxy, your change in Firefox ONLY affects Firefox, non of the other apps, which are still trying to go through the proxy
[08:47] <Fahmy> can u guys help me how to selct the proper keyboard layout for my laptop ?
[08:48] <eTranquility> ZykoticK9: Right, but I've only changed Firefox settings, I didn't do it through System-> Prefs -> Network Proxy
[08:48] <DakarRally> Hi, can anyone help me get my headphones working?
[08:49] <fuzeboxsoftware> anyone know why gnome art won't let me install new login screens?
[08:49] <devilsadvocate> eTranquility, apt-get does not work at home ?
[08:49] <eTranquility> ZykoticK9: Anyways, if changing Firefox settings has somehow affected my systemwide settings, how do I change it to not using a proxy? Network Proxy shows no proxy being used.
[08:49] <ZykoticK9> eTranquility, yup - so Firefox works, apt/boxee won't...  if you disable the proxy in network settins it will let everything talk to the internet (without a non-existing proxy getting in the way)
[08:50] <eTranquility> devilsadvocate: apt-get doesn't work ANYWHERE.
[08:50] <devilsadvocate> eTranquility, firefox proxy setting dont (and cant) affect system wide settings
[08:50] <devilsadvocate> eTranquility, and you have a proxy at school and direct connection at home?
[08:50] <ZykoticK9> eTranquility, ummm???
[08:50] <eTranquility> devilsadvocate: Yes.
[08:51] <kamikaze> hello there, i   got ubuntu 8.10 and i can't acces my ntfs partitiion, can  anyone help?
[08:51] <shadowh511> kamikaze: run mount in a terminal please
[08:52] <shadowh511> **just open a terminal, type in mount and press enter
[08:52] <kamikaze> okay i did so  but there was no ntfs partition sh all i paste it here?
[08:53] <shadowh511> sure
[08:53] <berat> ./etcfstab
[08:53] <kamikaze> alin@alindesk:~$ mount
[08:53] <kamikaze> /dev/mapper/nvidia_gfcdiceh5 on / type ext3 (rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro)
[08:53] <kamikaze> tmpfs on /lib/init/rw type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,mode=0755)
[08:53] <kamikaze> /proc on /proc type proc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
[08:53] <kamikaze> sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
[08:53] <kamikaze> varrun on /var/run type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,mode=0755)
[08:53] <FloodBot2> kamikaze: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:53] <eTranquility> ZykoticK9: apt-get and boxee stopped working around the time I started connecting to my school network (with the proxy) but I've usually been able to just change the connection settings in Firefox back to not using a proxy (since I've always only changed them to using a proxy in Firefox)). Proxy settings may or may not be related to my problem. >.<;;;
[08:53] <berat> hohohoh
[08:53] <prince_jammys> :)
[08:53] <devilsadvocate> eTranquility, do what ZykoticK9 says. verify that the system wide proxy settings are set to no proxy if you are at home. these should be in system>administration> network/proxy (not sure which)
[08:53] <shadowh511> kamikaze, how old is your computer?
[08:54] <kamikaze> ehm maybe about 2 years
[08:54] <disappearedng> fHey what are ctags?
[08:54] <prince_jammys> !ntfs | kamikaze
[08:54] <eTranquility> devilsadvocate, ZykoticK9: Network Proxy shows that configuration is set to a direct internet connection as it should be.
[08:54] <shadowh511> can you run ls /dev/sd* for me?
[08:55] <ZykoticK9> eTranquility, did you say the apt-get has NEVER worked?
[08:55] <prince_jammys> sudo fdisk -l  is more to the point
[08:55] <kamikaze> i got a raid 0 running and 1 partition is linux and 1 is windows
[08:55] <devilsadvocate> eTranquility, what error does apt-get give you, exactly?
[08:55] <eTranquility> ZykoticK9, It did work before.
[08:55] <shadowh511> kamikaze: oh, RAID /facepalm i have no raid experience :(
[08:56] <kamikaze> but it should make no difference because both system recognized the hdd
[08:56] <DakarRally> Any chance someone could help me get my headphones working?
[08:56] <ZykoticK9> eTranquility, sorry man, it's 5AM where I am and I'm off to bed.  Good luck man.  Night all.
[08:57] <shadowh511> kamikaze, can you run "sudo fdisk -l" sans quotes for me and paste the output in paste.ubuntu.com?
[08:57] <kamikaze> and if i type /dev/sd* for there are a lot of bashes
[08:57] <eTranquility> ZykoticK9 Thanks anyways. =/
[08:57] <devilsadvocate> eTranquility, slightly off topic, but for the record apt-get can work behind proxy. many command line stuff can. you need to run ¨export HTTP_PROXY=http:\\user:pass@proxy.address:proxyport¨ in the terminal before running the application
[08:57] <Aperculum> suddenly my vim has lost its python syntax hilights and indentation rules
[08:57] <kamikaze> do i need to join paste ubuntu.com?= i mean how do i get tehre
[08:57] <shadowh511> eT... you having an apt problem?
[08:58] <shadowh511> http://paste.ubuntu.com
[08:58] <eTranquility> shadowh511: apt-get and boxee stopped working. Firefox and Pidgin are fine.
[08:58] <devilsadvocate> eTranquility, for now though, give us the exact error / last few lines of an apt command
[08:58] <shadowh511> eT... what is boxee?
[08:59] <kamikaze> http://paste.ubuntu.com/128126/plain/
[08:59] <devilsadvocate> eTranquility, does it say waiting, looking up, does it specify a http error.. ?
[08:59] <eTranquility> devilsadvocate: http://paste.ubuntu.com/128127/
[08:59] <Fahmy> can u guys help me how to selct the proper keyboard layout for my laptop ?
[08:59] <shadowh511> kamikaze: oh s--t
[08:59] <kamikaze> ho s--t?
[08:59] <BABER> hi
[08:59] <shadowh511> eT, you have to run apt-get as root
[09:00] <shadowh511> !sudo
[09:00] <shadowh511> !root
[09:00] <shadowh511> !superuser
[09:00] <eTranquility> shadowh511: Yeah, just forget.
[09:00] <devilsadvocate> !sudo | eTranquility
[09:00] <shadowh511> eT: ?
[09:00] <devilsadvocate> hm
[09:00] <BABER> i install new harddisk now i can not see it in ubuntu how can i  scan for new hardware?
[09:00] <eTranquility> shadowh511: I did afterwards if you read further.
[09:00] <shadowh511> BABER: go to places and click on it
[09:01] <kamikaze> hey  what is now going on  with my ntfs partition :D you just said oh s--t
[09:01] <eTranquility> shadowh511: I'm assuming you're reading my paste and noticing I didn't use sudo first off. You may have just been advising me beforehand, my apologies.
[09:01] <shadowh511> kamikaze: can you test-reboot into windows? I think there might be bad stuff happening
[09:02] <devilsadvocate> eTranquility, can you try pinging that ip address
[09:02] <shadowh511> eT...: Is there ay type of internet filtering device attached to your network?
[09:02] <devilsadvocate> eTranquility, that address looks like that of a squid proxy
[09:02] <kamikaze> actually i had 9.04 first installed and when i tried to boot with grub i got some NTLDR error
[09:03] <eTranquility> devilsadvocate: #$%@ I just realized that's the address I used for my school proxy. >.>;
[09:03] <shadowh511> kamikaze: yep, windows and ubuntu are gone
[09:03] <devilsadvocate> eTranquility, i believe you have your proxy settings set somewhere you didnt unset. can you check the output for ¨echo $HTTP_PROXY¨
[09:03] <kamikaze> how do you mean :)?,  i read that i just need 2 copy 1 file from the cd for windows
[09:04] <shadowh511> i think that windows is fubar
[09:04] <shadowh511> idk for sure
[09:04] <shadowh511> its most likely
[09:04] <shadowh511> D:
[09:04] <kamikaze> fubar :D? you  confuse me  im not native english
[09:05] <shadowh511> f--ked up beyond all repair
[09:05] <kamikaze> hm but there has to be a way to save my data :(
[09:05] <eTranquility> devilsadvocate: I get no output for "echo $HTTP_PROXY".
[09:05] <shadowh511> data recovery is expensive, how much is the data worth to you?
[09:05] <devilsadvocate> eTranquility, there is a proxy setting _somewhere_ in /etc/apt. i dont remember where :|
[09:05] <kamikaze> and the wered thing is that last  time i had ubuntu installed i got the same problem, i had no access to the ntfs partition
[09:06] <shadowh511> could be a bad partition
[09:06] <prince_jammys> kamikaze: google has a few hits for 'cannot seek on /dev/sda'. look at those, unless someone here knows how to repair things
[09:06] <BABER> shadowh511: my new drives are not in places
[09:06] <kamikaze> well actually i dont wanna loose it
[09:06] <prince_jammys> kamikaze: specifically related to RAID
[09:06] <kamikaze> but how could this happen i mean i just installed ubuntu on another partition that should have done nothing to windows
[09:07] <eTranquility> devilsadvocate: Trying to find it.
[09:07] <kamikaze> the problem is that the live cd doesnt support raid so i cant really save the data
[09:07] <shadowh511> BABER: install gparted (Applications->Accessories->terminal->sudo apt-get install gparted->System->Administartion->Partition editor)
[09:07] <eTranquility> devilsadvocate: Found it. I have it set to direct internet connection.
[09:07] <disappearedng> hey can someone explain (in easy terms) what does the application QEMU does/
[09:07] <shadowh511> kamikaze: u got a flashdrive handy?
[09:07] <shadowh511> dis...:its a virtual pc
[09:07] <eTranquility> devilsadvocate: It's in prefs, then network.
[09:07] <devilsadvocate> eTranquility, it should work now. something similar must be the problem for boxee (i have no idea what boxee is though)
[09:08] <shadowh511> !boxee
[09:08] <shadowh511> dang
[09:08] <kamikaze> i got the alternative 8.10 installed
[09:08] <kamikaze> - because of raid
[09:08] <eTranquility> devilsadvocate: It's always been set to direct connection. >.<
[09:08] <shadowh511> hmmm
[09:08] <devilsadvocate> eTranquility, there is an apt-specific proxy setting in a file inside /etc/apt .  did someone else setup your laptop to work in school?
[09:09] <shadowh511> i was gonna suggest putting the livecd on your f/d, but then i realized that it would make no diff, lulz
[09:09] <shadowh511> kamikaze, its 1am now and i am drooling, g'night, email me if you need more help (screenshots please) shadow.h511@gmail.com
[09:09] <todd> !paste
[09:10] <eTranquility> devilsadvocate: No, the ONLY thing (I swear) that I remember changing is the browser settings (like I've always done in windows).
[09:10] <disappearedng> Hey how do I reinstall all my KDE related apps? I am using gnome and whenever I open any KDE apps it crashes
[09:13] <Nytrix> is there a program i can use to bind files together to become one executable file?
[09:13] <devilsadvocate> eTranquility, the settings _used_ to be in /etc/apt/apt.conf . i think it has moved into one of the files of /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/ . can you look through those files and check please?
[09:13] <eTranquility> devilsadvocate: Ok.
[09:14] <chuxxsss> Anyone got MS Lifechat LX-3000 headset working it's USB type on ubuntu
[09:15] <BABER> ﻿ i install new harddisk now i can not see it in ubuntu how can i  scan for new hardware?
[09:16] <jelly12gen> BABER: fdisk -l
[09:16] <prince_jammys> BABER: sudo fdisk -l  should display it, along with your partitions
[09:16] <jelly12gen> or take a look at system disk or something
[09:16] <prince_jammys> Nytrix: if the files can just be concatenated, then  cat fileone filetwo > finalfile . but i don't know if this is what you mean. i doubt it.
[09:17] <eTranquility> devilsadvocate: I see that there are several files in the directory you mentioned but none of them seem to be proxy related, I think, or maybe I just can't tell.
[09:17] <Nytrix> prince_jammys, i found it :)
[09:17] <Nytrix> !info makeself
[09:18] <prince_jammys> ah, that's what you meant
[09:19] <BABER> prince_jammys: i want show my ntfs partition but dont show
[09:19] <chuxxsss> Anyone got MS Lifechat LX-3000 headset working it's USB type on ubuntu?
[09:19] <prince_jammys> !ntfs | BABER
[09:20] <devilsadvocate> eTranquility, bottom line is that for some reason aptitude is ttying to go through the proxy. this means some config settings are asking it to go through a proxy. your network itself is fine
[09:20] <shavin> i wish to install java runtime environment but not the development kit. how do i do it?
[09:21] <eTranquility> devilsadvocate: Right, that helps. So you're saying I need to find a way to change my config files for each program I find not working?
[09:22] <devilsadvocate> eTranquility, yes
[09:22] <diazepam> hi all, anyone recommend a logfile analyzing tool
[09:22] <Nytrix> r u sure this is how u do it? cat fileone filetwo > finalfile
[09:22] <chuxxsss> fix it
[09:22] <psicobra> how do i i tell witch ersion of ubuntu i have on this machine?
[09:22] <devilsadvocate> diazepam, which logfile?
[09:22] <psicobra> *version
[09:22] <psicobra> i.e 8.10
[09:23] <eTranquility> devilsadvocate: Okay, I guess I'll be playing with it. What does "reset" under Network Proxy Pref do?
[09:23] <devilsadvocate> eTranquility, i have no idea
[09:23] <prince_jammys> Nytrix: you haven't really explained what you're trying to do. that command just concatenates two files
[09:23] <diazepam> devilsadvocate - diskspace, mail, webserver, ftp server, loads, memory usage, samba  all the usual
[09:23] <devilsadvocate> diazepam, all of them use different logfile analysiers since they all have different logfile formats
[09:24] <mnabil> guys , how can i download package and their dependencies using apt
[09:24] <Nytrix> ok i want 1.pdf and 2.pdf to become one executable file that when clicked will open both 1.pdf and 2.pdf
[09:24] <diazepam> devilsadvocate - yeah thought there might be one that is more for office servers
[09:24] <prince_jammys> Nytrix: executable pdfs?
[09:25] <Nytrix> i guess
[09:25] <Nytrix> yes
[09:25] <levidos> is there any program for ubuntu which continues downloading when the computer is turned off?
[09:25] <devilsadvocate> levidos, that is not possible. physically.
[09:25] <ubuntu_cebit> ???
[09:25] <Nytrix> levarnu, a firefox add on called DownThemAll
[09:25] <ubuntu_cebit> how should the Computer download anything when it is Turned Off?
[09:25] <Nytrix> levidos, a firefox add on called DownThemAll
[09:25] <prince_jammys> levidos: pretty funny
[09:26] <b1n42y> levidos, do you mean, when you turn it off then on again ?
[09:26] <levidos> thanks Nytrix
[09:26] <Nytrix> :)
[09:28] <Nytrix> levidos, i hope thats what u meant
[09:29] <Nytrix> you can "resume" download
[09:29] <prince_jammys> Nytrix: then that command is certainly not what you want. but i'm pretty sure there's no such thing as an executable pdf. then again, i don't know about pdfs
[09:29] <soft1234> what is this?
[09:30] <prince_jammys> the ubuntu support channel
[09:30] <_Whipper__> soft: hmm..
[09:30] <Nytrix> this is a chat room
[09:30] <_Whipper__> nytrix: this is IRC
[09:30] <soft1234> i run on linux.... do you run on linux too?
[09:30] <prince_jammys>  /topic
[09:30] <_Whipper__> *christ*
[09:31] <Seveas> You called?
[09:31] <Nytrix> !ubuntu
[09:31] <prince_jammys> i don't run on linux, no
[09:31] <prince_jammys> i'm not exactly sure what i run on, but it's too old to be linux
[09:31] <soft1234> i knowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
[09:31] <soft1234> it is a linux distro
[09:31] <Seveas> prince_jammys, 90's style nike air? :)
[09:31] <prince_jammys> older
[09:31] <thenetduck_> can anyone here answer a rubyonrails question? the rubyonrails irc is.. well a little bit odd
[09:31] <soft1234> what is the purpose of this chat room?
[09:32] <Seveas> soft1234, support for Ubuntu
[09:32] <_Whipper__> soft: topic
[09:32] <shavin> i run on my legs and on the food and liquids i have, my  laptop runs on ubuntu and battery charge
[09:32] <Nytrix> !topic
[09:32] <prince_jammys> soft1234: irc channels have 'topics'. you can ...
[09:32] <prince_jammys> what the bot said
[09:32] <Seveas> shavin, battery charge is so last century, you want hydrogen cells nowadays :)
[09:33] <soft1234> hydrogen cells are inefficient
[09:33] <shavin> in order to improve upon my ubuntu running speed i try to learn about 'cleaning ubuntu' recently and in order to run better myself i joined a taekwondo class 3 days a week recently. good progress going
[09:33] <_Whipper__> seveas: yes, and liquid h2 cooler
[09:33] <Seveas> soft1234, but explosive, which is all I care about :)
[09:34] <soft1234> i am finishing a PhD degree at China University of Petroleum
[09:34] <_Whipper__> a bit offtopic?
[09:34] <shavin> talking of explosive strength, i recommend frog jumps :-))
[09:34] <soft1234> try to see that i am not a dumb, as you think
[09:34] <prince_jammys> shavin: careful with those 'tips' from the internet. some are silly
[09:34] <Seveas> slightly, yeah. We should stay on topic
[09:34] <Seveas> ~ot
[09:34] <Seveas> !ot
[09:34] <prince_jammys> like 'turn off your ttys' <-- dumb
[09:34] <shavin> prince-jammys: yes i agree, google != god
[09:35] <Seveas> prince_jammys, hmm, I've been tempted to do that as I rarely use them
[09:35] <prince_jammys> bleh
[09:35] <Seveas> But then X crashed yesterday during a dist-upgrade, so I'll let them live for now :)
[09:35] <prince_jammys> those consume nothing
[09:35] <decembre> hello
[09:35] <Seveas> hello decembre, how are you?
[09:35] <prince_jammys> Seveas: yeah, they can be useful and the cost is negligible
[09:36] <soft1234> it seems you don't chat on technical issues...
[09:36] <decembre> Seveas : euh....
[09:36] <Nytrix> anyone encrypt their hard drive?
[09:36] <decembre> that's a question good to me !
[09:36] <Padhu> My Pidgin will not start CONNECTION AUTOMATICALLY? HOW CAN I SET THIS?
[09:36] <soft1234> negligeable
[09:36] <Seveas> !anyone | Nytrix
[09:36] <tefa> wala
[09:36] <_Whipper__> this is SOFTWARE support chan..
[09:36] <mnk> hi
[09:36] <tefa> s
[09:36] <Seveas> Padhu, first switch off the caps lock :)
[09:36] <decembre> I have a problem on my little server
[09:36] <Nytrix> does anyone encrypt their hard drive?
[09:36] <decembre> with a run part task !
[09:37] <Seveas> Padhu, then system -> preferences -> startup applications
[09:37] <mnk> can anyone help me. i have the desktop cube set up but i am trying to set up the cylinder - it doesn't seem to be working
[09:37] <_Whipper__> mnk: siable the other-one
[09:37] <Seveas> mnk, if noone in here can, maybe try #compiz (Sorry, I can't be more useful than this for you)
[09:37] <_Whipper__> disabele
[09:37] <mnk> which otther one _Whipper__
[09:37] <decembre> my / partition seems to be 100 % occupied
[09:37] <Nytrix> mnk join #compiz
[09:37] <soft1234> this chat room is a waste of time... i am off
[09:37] <decembre> I don't know why !
[09:37] <_Whipper__> mnk: the one u dont want to use
[09:37] <Seveas> decembre, then you'll need to remove some files :)
[09:38] <Nytrix> soft1234, bye
[09:38] <decembre> seveas : which ones
[09:38] <ohletmeinnowjesu> hi guys, i have some ff window size issues
[09:38] <decembre> ?
[09:38] <mnk> _Whipper__, how do i disable the cube?
[09:38] <decembre> that is the question !
[09:38] <ohletmeinnowjesu> can someone help me out?
[09:38] <Nytrix> !ask
[09:38] <mnk> _Whipper__, i thought i had to enable the cube for the cylinder to work?
[09:38] <Seveas> decembre, 'sudo apt-get clean' should give you some megabytes back. Then use baobab to find your stash of movies and delte a few :)
[09:38] <decembre> I don't know where is the directory problem ... ?
[09:39] <decembre> movies are in /home
[09:39] <decembre> separate partition
[09:39] <Seveas> decembre, how big is your / partition?
[09:39] <_Whipper__> mnk: hmm.. could someone else answer? i have to go >
[09:39] <mnk> :)
[09:39] <decembre> 2 Go
[09:39] <mnk> ok anyone else pls :)
[09:39] <Seveas> decembre, yeah, that's way too small...
[09:39] <mnk> i'm trying to enable the cylinder but itisn't working
[09:40] <decembre> normally, I have 500 Mo unoccupied !
[09:40] <decembre> This is a server
[09:40] <Seveas> decembre, until you start installing updates and need to download packages
[09:40] <decembre> not a desktop
[09:40] <Mic92> How can i make the chat-window in pidgin transparent?
[09:40] <decembre> I clean apt-get cache
[09:40] <decembre> like you say
[09:40] <Seveas> decembre, run apt-get clean, look in /tmp for large things and clean /var/log
[09:41] <decembre> and it is still 100%
[09:41] <decembre> thanks
[09:41] <Nytrix> mnk be more specific
[09:42] <decembre> tmp is 10 Ko
[09:42] <Seveas> decembre, then run du -shc /{lib,usr,bin,sbin,boot,srv,opt,var} to find out where space is occupied. /var/cache is a likely culprit
[09:42] <Nytrix> what cylinder ?
[09:42] <disappearedng> Hey how do I reinstall all my KDE related apps? I am using gnome and whenever I open any KDE apps it crashes
[09:42] <mnk> Nytrix, i am trying to enable the compiz cylinder instead of the cube - desktop effects
[09:42] <decembre> I have allready done that : var 200 Mo
[09:42] <decembre> usr 700 Mo
[09:42] <decembre> lib : 99 Mo
[09:43] <decembre> bin : 5 Mo
[09:43] <decembre> sbin : 5 Mo
[09:43] <Nytrix> mnk, reset everything back to default then check the cylinder box
[09:44] <mnk> Nytrix, how do i reset it to defaults?
[09:44] <stessy1> Hi
[09:44] <stessy1> I've a problem using WEP for my wifi
[09:44] <decembre> and noone on the other you say !
[09:45] <Nytrix> click Preferences then click reset to defaults
[09:45] <decembre> root, srv : few Ko
[09:45] <decembre> and no opt !
[09:45] <stessy1> if I use WPA the connection works
[09:45] <decembre> that is the third time it makes it
[09:45] <birdflu2007exe> halo
[09:45] <Seveas> decembre, pastebin the output of mount and df -h
[09:45] <decembre> I don't know why !
[09:45] <stessy1> but if I use WEP I can connect to my router
[09:45] <Nytrix> disappearedng, use Kubuntu i guess
[09:45] <stessy1> but I cannot go outside
[09:45] <decembre> ok !
[09:45] <decembre> thanks !
[09:46] <maru> mi amigos
[09:46] <maru> just passing through
[09:46] <maru> anyone here see "the watchmen"
[09:46] <maru> muchos buenos cinemidad
[09:47] <Nytrix> !english
[09:47] <birdflu2007exe> am a Ubuntu User
[09:47] <Seveas> !ot | maru
[09:47] <decembre> that's it : http://paste.ubuntu.com/128132/
[09:47] <maru> ;) k boss
[09:48] <decembre> seveas : thanks for help
[09:48] <decembre> anyover command ? ask !
[09:48] <disappearedng> Nytix: what?
[09:48] <Seveas> decembre, pastebin the output of: ls -la /
[09:48] <disappearedng> Nytrix: what? i am asking how I could uninstall and reinstall all the kde apps
[09:49] <Seveas> decembre, and also the output of:  ps aux
[09:49] <mnk> Nytrix, i reset everything
[09:49] <mnk> then i enabled cylinder
[09:49] <mnk> and it still works like a cube
[09:50] <decembre> ok
[09:51] <Ascavasaion> I am here via my bell phone. Can someone please private me and tell me how to connect my laptop to the Internet using my cell phone using infra red?
[09:51] <Nytrix> disappearedng, through Applications>Add/Remove.. or through System>Administration>Synaptic Package Manager
[09:51] <Padhu> How can i install opera?
[09:51] <Seveas> Padhu, apt-get install opera
[09:51] <Nytrix> mnk, reset everything back to default then check the cylinder box
[09:51] <birdflu2007exe> Just apt-get install
[09:51] <Seveas> Padhu, (iff you enabled the canonical commercial repos)
[09:52] <jag_> hi all
[09:52] <mnk> Nytrix, i did
[09:52] <decembre> this is : http://paste.ubuntu.com/128135/
[09:52] <jag_> i have a problem with my voulme control in ubuntu 8.10
[09:52] <jag_> anyone there to help / guide me
[09:52] <Nytrix> ok should work now
[09:53] <Nytrix> !ask
[09:53] <quibbler> Padhu: http://www.opera.com/browser/download/
[09:53] <birdflu2007exe> Now i'm Using Ubuntu 8.10 ^^
[09:53] <Seveas> decembre, you have a whole lot of crap in your /
[09:53] <decembre> yes
[09:53] <birdflu2007exe> *8.041 - -
[09:53] <Padhu> ok. Now i start it
[09:53] <jag_> i was running windows vista before an now using ubuntu 8.10, my systems audio is too low
[09:53] <decembre> that's why I come here !
[09:53] <jag_> i mean if i keep the volumne as 100%
[09:53] <Seveas> decembre, clean that up. The debootstrap probably takes quite some space. And stop putting crap in your /
[09:53] <Nytrix> !sound
[09:54] <jag_> i get only a audible sound not loud
[09:54] <decembre> but I don't know what directory is too big !
[09:54] <jag_> !volume
[09:54] <Ascavasaion> I mean CELL phone.
[09:54] <decembre> apt-get cache is empty !
[09:54] <Seveas> decembre, you should not be putting all that crap in /
[09:54] <Seveas> that's what homedirs are for
[09:54] <decembre> I verified it !
[09:54] <Padhu> Don't compare with windows. all linux distro has volume level less than windows.
[09:54] <jag_> i have alsa mixer installed
[09:55] <jag_> iam able to see alsa mixer when i double click on the volume settings icon
[09:55] <decembre> seveas : sorry, I am not native english spoken !
[09:55] <decembre> what is crap ?
[09:55] <decembre> no dictionnary entry !:
[09:56] <disappearedng> Nytrix: then how do I search for all kde related
[09:56] <Ascavasaion> I am here using cell phone. Can someone private me and tell me how to connect laptop to internet using infra red?
[09:56] <Padhu> Is it possible to make an sqlite DB with user name and password
[09:56] <jag_> decemre --> RGHS take next letter for each letter
[09:56] <decembre> ascavasaion : look at www.tuxmobil.org
[09:56] <jag_> thts crap !!
[09:57] <Nytrix> disappearedng, i guess if u know the names u can do it that way otherwise i dont know
[09:57] <Ascavasaion> Dead.
[09:58] <Seveas> decembre, 'crap' means things that shouldn't be in there. Get rid of all non-standard directories in /
[09:58] <decembre> jag : that 's a funny way of saying this !
[09:58] <decembre> ok
[09:58] <melik> can anyone personally help me out in private chat about configuring grub to be able to boot windows?
[09:58]  * Seveas off
[09:59] <Nytrix> !boot
[09:59] <disappearedng> Any1 here familiar with a KDE bug that shuts all KDE applications once it starts
[09:59] <Nytrix> !bootloader
[09:59] <Nytrix> !loader
[09:59] <dayo> in pidgin the bonjour protocol lets u chat on an intranet, without actually being on the internet. but the account is not password-protected like yahooIM, aim, msn etc. are there any apps that are password-protected intranet chats?
[10:00] <dayo> !grub | Nytrix
[10:00] <Nytrix> dayo thanx now i remember hehe
[10:00] <Acedip> when booting my machine, it goes to CLI and says file system check failed and the maintenance shell is started, to continue booting press ctrl+d . and the error msg is logged http://paste.debian.net/30039/ .. any help ?? how can resume the normal boot ??
[10:01] <dayo> Nytrix: u're welcome :-)
[10:01] <vin> hi
[10:01] <Nytrix> melik, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Intrepid#Dual-Booting_Windows_and_Ubuntu
[10:02] <Zeit|awy_> Acedip: one drive/partition missing?
[10:02] <melik> Nytrix, i just have one question
[10:02] <melik> how do i know what my windows is (hdx,y)
[10:02] <Acedip> Zeit|awy_, missing ??
[10:02] <decembre> I have found the problem
[10:02] <decembre> but it 's weird !
[10:03] <Zeit|awy_> seems it tries to locate another partition by a GUID (unique ID)
[10:03] <decembre> by killing php task, all return to bormal state !
[10:03] <decembre> 53 % occupied /
[10:04] <kjdro> hi there.. everyone i'm back whit another annoying ubuntu problem, concerning usb flash disks... TRANSFER IS TOO DAMN SLOW
[10:04] <Nytrix> melik, sudo apt-get install gparted
[10:04] <jag_> my audio is very low...can someone help me
[10:04] <jag_> my systems*
[10:04] <Acedip> Zeit|awy_, the UID entries are there in menu.lst too..
[10:04] <Zeit|awy_> Acedip: what does a normal boot give? panic about a missing filesystem?
[10:05] <decembre> do you know why ?
[10:05] <Nytrix> then in terminal type sudo gparted
[10:05] <kjdro> kjdro -i booted up ubuntu 8.10 live cd - whit pci=routirq ... so i saw on a forum .. stilll.. copying many files that sum up about 3 GB to a 4 GB flash disk over USB 2.0 takes more then a day .. common...
[10:05] <Zeit|awy_> kjdro: transfer to usb depends on the chipset used, I had no problems yet
[10:05] <Zeit|awy_> perhaps a driver issue
[10:06] <quibbler> jag_: have you tried alsamixer in terminal
[10:06] <Padhu> Melik,: Grub code is using chain loading for windows. Onlything is you should specify the primary partition
[10:07] <Acedip> well i tried to install fedora in dual boot with ubuntu and quit it before actual installation, but wen i tried booting ubuntu the grub was gone, so i restored grub with livecd and wen i boot this error was there..before this there was no problem at all
[10:07] <jag_> quibbler : yes...it seems to be fine
[10:07] <jag_> it shows 100%
[10:08] <quibbler> jag_: all the volumes are 100%
[10:08] <kjdro> Zeit|awy_: well.. damn bee.. ubuntu 8.04 was slow as hell,  some forum sad ubuntu 8.10 is better... i don't know what's involved in making a driver that can copy to usb faster. But of what i do know is: it shopuld be that hard... should it ?
[10:08] <Acedip> Zeit|awy_, i dont see any file system missing, all the partitions are very much there..
[10:08] <jag_> yes
[10:08] <jag_> all the volumes are 100%
[10:08] <jag_> but the sound is JUST audible
[10:08] <jag_> not loud enough for 100%
[10:09] <bouma> does anyone know where i can configure the behaviour of the 'virtual mouse wheel' where you stroke near along the edge of a touch panel and get a wheel in that axis
[10:09] <quibbler> jag_: you used the arrow keys to check everything
[10:09] <kjdro> Zeit|awy_: isn't there any other was of speeding up usb transfer... i want to untar debian bases sitem on a flash disk
[10:10] <bouma> because i lost the ability to do this type of mouse wheel
[10:10] <bouma> and i want it back
[10:10] <jag_> yes, iam able to set the sound by using the arrow keys...its decreasing and increasing my sound...but even when its set to 100% the audio is low
[10:10] <jag_> can i try reinstalling alsamixer ?
[10:10] <jag_> if so whtz the command ?
[10:11] <Zeit|awy_> Acedip: use google, found some things, like http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/ubuntu-help/121060-fsck-ext3-unable-resolve-uuid-error.html
[10:11] <jag_> apt-get install alsamixer ?
[10:11] <kjdro> jag_: remove alsamixer first
[10:11] <jag_> how ?
[10:11] <venu> how to decrease the font size of web pages..
[10:12] <Yoavk_Away> Is there a log bot here?
[10:12] <kjdro> jag_: try:  dpkg -l | grep alsa
[10:12] <Nytrix> venu, hold ctrl then hit + OR -
[10:13] <kjdro> now you get a list of installed alsa drivers
[10:13] <kjdro> try sudo apt-get remove ... all of them
[10:13] <kjdro> and then sudo apt-get install all of them again ..
[10:14] <Acedip> Zeit|awy_, if we've to replace UUID code with the actual mount point then why does the system use uuid anyways..?
[10:15] <venu> got it... thanks a lot
[10:15] <Nytrix> venu np
[10:15] <jag_> i will try and see how it works
[10:15] <jag_> i will use the package manager instead of the commetn line
[10:15] <jag_> is that ok ?
[10:15] <Yoavk_Away> Is there a log bot here?
[10:15] <kjdro> btw .. is there someon who could help me out boost the usb transfer speed ??? max it out i mean ...
[10:16] <Nytrix> !log
[10:16] <kjdro> ps: even if it means using only console or special programs
[10:16] <kjdro> i dont really care
[10:16] <Zeit|awy_> Acedip: using UUIDs is the "new" way to identify drives, some other OS's use it too, like OS X or even Vista AFAIR, it has advantages, but well, obiously it also has some problems.. ;)
[10:17] <glymph> kjdro: are you using a USB 2.0 port, for starters?
[10:17] <kjdro> glymph : yes
[10:17] <neeteex_> bonjour, pouvez-vous m'aider à ajouter un raccourcis pour gvim dans le menu déroulant "application" ?
[10:18] <glymph> kjdro: and what kind of transfer speeds do you get?
[10:18] <kjdro> glymph: i want to untar debian bases system on to a 4 gb flash disk.. and it takes almost a day to do it..
[10:18] <quibbler> !fr | neeteex_
[10:18] <kjdro> sadly i cant see it.. cus copiing is started..
[10:18] <glymph> that doesn't sound right, kjdro, it shouldn't take that long at-all
[10:19] <kjdro> glymph: to say an aprox transfer speed i am at 28% in say 3 hours or more
[10:19] <SuperMoo> Hello, I don't have any sound in America's Army
[10:19] <kjdro> glymph: i even used pci=reoutirq at bootup
[10:20] <SuperMoo> Any ideas?
[10:21] <SuperMoo> people say "killall esd" , but there are no processes killed
[10:22] <LarsAAaa> SuperMoo: ps aux |grep esd
[10:22] <protocol1> whats the terminal command to start network manager for gnome?
[10:23] <kjdro> glymph: in windows copying is ok. sympthoms: copying some files .. and then it stops .. then after some time copies a few more files... so on
[10:23] <LarsAAaa> protocol1: ls -l /usr/bin/NM*
[10:24] <protocol1> isnt there a short command off bat?
[10:24] <LarsAAaa> protocol1: I think there are something called NetworkManager too
[10:24] <protocol1> like gnome-nm
[10:24] <jag_> kjdro - thnx it works !!! the audio rocks
[10:24] <jag_> thnx
[10:25] <kjdro> jag_: np .. glad to help .. from one noob to other :D
[10:25] <stevr1it> hi, i have to install on this pc a new video card pci agp 8x , how can proceed? it is an ati 2400pro. The pc now works with a integrated video card. can i just put it in the pcI slot?
[10:25] <glymph> kjdro: I don't know, I suggest looking into the "dmesg" output, and the messagelog, check the transfer speed to the fliesystem and to the raw device to see if there's a difference (say with 'pv' for speed), aside from that, I dunno sorry.
[10:25] <kjdro> glymph: good idea
[10:25] <protocol1> nm-applet?
[10:26] <glymph> stevr1it: that sounds like more of a hardware-related question, as to whether the BIOS will let the AGP card become the primary display
[10:26] <jag_> anyone have better windows navigator than avn windows navigator - it seems to be very slow
[10:26] <kjdro> glymph: what dose this mea: [37798.412571] usb 8-1: reset high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 4
[10:26] <stevr1it> so i don't have to do anything, just insert it
[10:26] <stevr1it> I don't have experience
[10:26] <glymph> kjdro: I'm not sure, I suggest searching online for the error and the version of the USB drive, you may find it needs updating
[10:27] <glymph> kjdro: I mean driver, of course
[10:27] <kjdro> glymph: yeah .. another good idea..
[10:27] <glymph> stevr1it: that depends on your BIOS and your PC, check the manuals perhaps
[10:28] <stevr1it> the bios recognize it
[10:28] <stevr1it> but ubuntu 8.10?
[10:28] <baldaris> hey
[10:28] <baldaris> can any one help me with sasl setup for postfix..
[10:29] <stevr1it> i try , thank you
[10:31] <ziroday> baldaris: #ubuntu-server might be better :)
[10:31] <jase1> anyone know any linux games similar to zelda, or castlevania
[10:31] <Until_It_Sleeps> !anyone | jase1
[10:32] <ziroday> jase1: battle of wesnoth?
[10:32] <ziroday> Until_It_Sleeps: err jase1 was asking correctly :)
[10:32] <mib_1qhpw3> Please vote for the future of Enterprise Computing at http://vvishnu.wordpress.com/poll/
[10:32] <Until_It_Sleeps> :P :)
[10:32] <jase1> battle of wesnoth is nothing like neither, wesnoth is more like warcraft
[10:32] <ziroday> jase1: I don't now any decent RPG's sorry.
[10:33] <ziroday> jase1: besides nethack
[10:33] <Until_It_Sleeps> What about, say, a NES emulator?
[10:33] <ziroday> mib_1qhpw3: please don't advertise here
[10:33] <jase1> i already done played the heck out of the console zeldas. was hoping for a new game based on either of those titles
[10:34] <Until_It_Sleeps> Ah... I don't know anything about that then...
[10:35] <jase1> you would think someone would of thought to have done one. they were very popular and still are.
[10:36] <ziroday> jase1: _maybe_ the folks in #ubuntu-offtopic might know. But I can't recall anything off the top of my head. Sorry.
[10:38] <neeteex> ubuntu-fr
[10:38] <kjdro> lolz !! this is grate ... awesome.. it seems no one cares if usb transfer is not working in ubuntu... Checked out some forums just yet.. and all i found is that this bug exists as late as of 2 years .. and no fix out yet.. muhahaha
[10:38] <ziroday> kjdro: is there a bug in launchpad?
[10:38] <glymph> jase1: apparently Okami is like Zelda
[10:39] <Until_It_Sleeps> Bai
[10:39] <donna10> anyone can help to get back my panels on xubuntu 7.10 , i am beginner
[10:39] <Myrtti> hello Until_It_Sleeps
[10:39] <ziroday> donna10: is the program xfce4-panel running?
[10:39] <kjdro> ziroday: no .. just asked a wile ago with help on usb device transfer speeds.. [37798.412571] usb 8-1: reset high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 4
[10:39] <ziroday> kjdro: well file a bug :)
[10:40] <donna10> ziro no i do not get it when press f2
[10:40] <ziroday> donna10: sorry I don't quite follow. When you press F2?
[10:41] <vallhalla81> hi i am looking for somthing like conky to monitor cpu, net, memory, ect any sugestions?
[10:41] <vallhalla81> !conky
[10:41] <ziroday> vallhalla81: what was wrong with conky?
[10:42] <donna10> when i press F2 instead to get a small window to ask xfce4   i had xununtu =laptop login :
[10:42] <vallhalla81> i am having trouble configuring it
[10:42] <kjdro> ziroday: it is filed...look what i found: Seems to be related to this bug:
[10:42] <kjdro> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/88746
[10:42] <kjdro> No solution yet :frown:
[10:42] <ziroday> donna10: sorry I'm having trouble understanding you. Perhaps I can direct you to a channel that speaks your native language?
[10:42] <vallhalla81> ﻿ziroday: i spent 2 days trying to get what i want it to do but failed
[10:43] <dma> hi
[10:43] <ziroday> vallhalla81: try screenlets
[10:43] <angus> quit
[10:43] <donna10> ziroday , my laptop works in english
[10:43] <dma> i have a problem:
[10:44] <dma> i've installed frets on fire and my default font changed
[10:44] <kjdro> oks so i found this: ding "options usbcore autosuspend=-1" to /etc/modprobe.d/usb-core-options (followed by "sudo update-initramfs -u") is a reasonable workaround. However, it still requires unplugging of USB devices during reboots. A better fix still would seem to be in order
[10:44] <ziroday> kjdro: it seems like a complicated issue. Unfortunately I don't have time to go through the bug now.
[10:44] <dma> it looks like a bold font...
[10:44] <dma> but the default is the sans
[10:45] <dma> where can I download the default sans font?
[10:45] <ziroday> donna10: okay, well I'm not currently running. But the people in #xubuntu are
[10:46] <kjdro> ziroday: question is .. is this workaround applicable while usb stick is used ???
[10:46] <ziroday> kjdro: dunno sorry
[10:47] <L-deathnote> hi there
[10:47] <Blacki> jemand ne idee warum ich den grub nicht auf eine sandisk 4GB kriege ?
[10:47] <ziroday> !de | Blacki
[10:48] <Blacki> ups, sorry mistake :)
[10:49] <joetromondo> hi, how do I unmount a mounted folder?
[10:50] <kjdro> using umount
[10:50] <dma> i need the original default sans font from Ubuntu
[10:50] <kjdro> joetromondo: umount /..../...
[10:50] <joetromondo> ok, ill try here
[10:50] <dma> where can i download it?
[10:51] <kjdro> dma: try repositories..
[10:51] <kjdro> dma: or better if you know the file name... well gogle it
[10:51] <Flannel> dma: It's just Bitstream Vera Sans
[10:51] <quibbler> dma: system-preferences-appearance check the font tab
[10:52] <dma> thank you friends! I think the default font was Sans
[10:53] <joetromondo> it says the drive is busy
[10:53] <dma> now fixed! Thanks and sorry for my English
[10:53] <Keld> joetromondo: check you're not in the mounted folder.
[10:53] <Keld> (common mistake of mine :P )
[10:53] <kjdro> joetromondo that usualy means something is using the device. are you trying to unmount it whil in it ?
[10:54] <jag_> bye guys thnx
[10:54] <joetromondo> exactly
[10:54] <joetromondo> done it now
[10:54] <quibbler> dma your English is very good man
[10:54] <joetromondo> :)
[10:54] <joetromondo> thanks
[10:55] <kjdro> where can i get kernel help ???
[10:55] <Geek`N`Proud> kjdro: what kernel are you using?
[10:55] <dma> bye! see you soon :)
[10:56] <kjdro> ubuntu 8.10
[10:56] <kjdro> geek: how can i get exact version ?
[10:56] <Geek`N`Proud> kjdro: if you're using the kernel that came with 8.10 then try #ubuntu-kernel
[10:56] <kjdro> i am
[10:56] <Geek`N`Proud> uname -a will give you the version
[10:56] <kjdro> thx
[11:03] <joetromondo> hi Im trying to mount here '/dev/sda2    /mnt/windows/c    ntfs-3g    uid=1000,gid=100,umask=0022    0 0' but it says denied permission
[11:03] <smilodon> I need to know why ubuntu is so popular
[11:03] <xukun> is it possible to see my system power consumption both idle and in use?
[11:04] <linduxed> for some reason it seems like i cant write to /tmp
[11:04] <jelly12gen> smilodon: why?
[11:04] <linduxed> preventing me from loading flashvideos
[11:04] <smilodon> I want the best linux based OS
[11:04] <quibbler> smilodon: is you really have to discuss that try #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:04] <linduxed> anything temporary in need of tmp-space doesnt work
[11:05] <jelly12gen> smilodon: then you will have to determine what you want , a simple install or a harder instal
[11:05] <bazhang> smilodon, please discuss in #ubuntu-offtopic thanks
[11:05] <jelly12gen> command line based or gui
[11:05] <pinkpotato> god i'm glad to be back on ubuntu after mint
[11:06] <pinkpotato> i believe in ease of use, but theres a limit
[11:07] <b1n42y> once ive figured out the most efficient way of saving my apt contents whats the best way of clearing that folder so that i dont have to download anything that another program might need for installation or are they installed and what im talking about are just packages so can be cleaned?
[11:07] <jag_> hi again....i want to installl vlc player
[11:07] <jag_> how do i doit
[11:08] <ja660k> sudo apt-get vlc
[11:08] <gnu_d> Hi, I made a folder Template in home, my locale is mk, so the name is Mostri(in cyrililic), why when I click on Places --> Templaces it opens home, and the content of Template it's not viewed in right click new document, why ?
[11:08] <bazhang> sudo apt-get install vlc jag_
[11:08] <ja660k> install*
[11:08] <jag_> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/c-korn/ubuntu intrepid main
[11:08] <jag_> sorry
[11:08] <jag_> Reading package lists... Done
[11:08] <jag_> Building dependency tree
[11:08] <jag_> Reading state information... Done
[11:08] <jag_> Package vlc is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[11:08] <jag_> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[11:08] <FloodBot2> jag_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:08] <quibbler> linduxed: is your disk full  try running  df -h in terminal
[11:08] <ysis> Hi. I recently made a clean install of Intrepid beside my existing Hardy installation. I'm on a Laptop with integrated sound card and a front rack for headphones and microphone. The problem is now in Intrepid: I have sound, but when I plug in my headphones the speakers are not disabled. (Headphones do work.) A long time ago I managed to fix this in my old Hardy installation and I think it's possible to extract the sound configuration, yet I don't know
[11:09] <ja660k> how can i put my computer to "sleep"... i heard that all linux distros cant handle sleep or suspend?
[11:09] <bazhang> jag_, from a ppa? any reason not to use the one in the repos?
[11:09] <b1n42y> ysis, there should be something like jack sensning
[11:09] <jag_> i am not able to find
[11:09] <jag_> one in the repos
[11:09] <jag_> there is a VLS but no VLC
[11:10] <ysis> b1n42y, where?
[11:10] <bazhang> jag_, what does apt-cache search vlc  <---in terminal show
[11:10] <b1n42y> is VLC part of restricted-extras
[11:10] <joetromondo> hi Im trying to mount here '/dev/sda2 /mnt/windows/c ntfs-3g uid=1000,gid=100,umask=0022 0 0' but it says denied permission
[11:10] <b1n42y> ysis, let me look
[11:10] <linduxed> quibbler: no it isnt
[11:10] <ysis> b1n42y, thanks.
[11:10] <bazhang> b1n42y, no its not
[11:11] <quibbler> linduxed: logout/in
[11:12] <linduxed> quibbler: might try
[11:12] <jag_> it says vls-lightweight MPEG and DVD video streaming server etc ?
[11:12] <jag_> !!
[11:12] <magnetron> jag_→ VLC or VLS?
[11:12] <bazhang> jag_, please type this in terminal ---> apt-cache search vlc
[11:12] <BrixSat> this is onb fstab  "/dev/sda4 /media/Windows vfat "  this is good but i cant write to it :S
[11:12] <jag_> i want to install VLC
[11:13] <bazhang> jag_, then do as I am instructing please
[11:13] <jag_> dvd95 - DVD9 to DVD5 converter
[11:13] <jag_> getstream - DVB streaming application
[11:13] <jag_> etc,m
[11:13] <wanttotryubuntu> hello, after all possible permutations and combinations, still LIVE CD wont leave busybox
[11:13] <jag_> bazhang : that is the output iam getting
[11:14] <Phoxis> does ubuntu have any of the three tools?
[11:14] <Phoxis> system-config-network
[11:14] <Phoxis> pppoe-setup
[11:14] <Phoxis> NetworkManager
[11:14] <FloodBot2> Phoxis: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:14] <wanttotryubuntu> its my first day of linux .. i cant seem to install it.. i have already wasted 7 cds
[11:14] <Phoxis> i think the last one must be there
[11:14] <bazhang> jag_, vlc is a media player largely; you want to use it rip dvd's?
[11:14] <jag_> no i want to see movies
[11:14] <b1n42y> ysis, ok on my laptop this happens automatically but try doble left click on speaker icon in panel then goto preferences then head phone jack sensning and put a tick
[11:14] <Almindor> hello
[11:15] <bazhang> jag_, please paste.ubuntu.com with output of /etc/apt/sources.list (dont paste here)
[11:15] <b1n42y> ysis, erm once you put a tick in goto  the tab switch and another tick in tehre
[11:16] <Almindor> I have hardy 32bit on 6 year old desktop (athlon@2ghz, 1gb ram, nvidia geforce 6) and a 1.5 year old laptop with intrepid 64bit (turion@2ghz, 2gb ram, ati mobility x1600 with latest driver)
[11:16] <Almindor> my problem is that the 6 year old desktop is simply faster
[11:16] <bazhang> wanttotryubuntu, did you md5 the iso; it may well be corrupt
[11:16] <Almindor> mainly IO operations and program init times etc. but even cpu intensive tasks (e.g: compilation) can be faster on it
[11:16] <ysis> b1n42y, forgot to mention that I'm using KDE 4.2. But I will try to find it, otherwise I'll log into Gnome and come back here. Thanks!
[11:16] <Phoxis> i just need one ans
[11:16] <b1n42y> read up
[11:17] <Almindor> any idea? I'm mostly concerned that e.g: claws-mail starts instantly on the desktop, but takes ~2s on the laptop (when cached)
[11:17] <wanttotryubuntu> bazhang .. yes, all basic precautions have been taken
[11:17] <bazhang> Phoxis, network-manager? sure
[11:17] <jag_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/128160/
[11:17] <b1n42y> ysis, theres 2 spots where you need to tick
[11:17] <Phoxis> gr8
[11:17] <Phoxis> thanks
[11:17] <bazhang> wanttotryubuntu, what would those be; please elaborate
[11:17] <jag_> and this is the command output - http://paste.ubuntu.com/128158/
[11:18] <bazhang> wanttotryubuntu, such as disk integrity check, burning iso at low speed, and md5 sum check
[11:18] <b1n42y> Almindor, what speed is your hard drive on laptop
[11:18] <wanttotryubuntu> bazhang .. wrote the cds , tested at my friend's place [ we have exactly the same hardware ] .. they work like charm
[11:18] <Almindor> b1n42y, both are 5400rpm
[11:18] <glymph> what error or symptoms do you see when it fails, wanttotryubuntu?
[11:19] <Almindor> b1n42y, but as I said even cached apps are slower the disk doesn't even blink
[11:19] <bazhang> wanttotryubuntu, then I suggest you remove quiet and splash from kernel boot options to see what the exact errors are
[11:19] <wanttotryubuntu> bazhang they boot nicely as live cd on his pc .. my pc is exactly the same but all cds go to busybox .. following are the errors which i wrote down after doing  noacpi  acpi=off  as was told to me by Seaphor
[11:19] <b1n42y> Almindor, cpu throttling ?
[11:20] <bazhang> wanttotryubuntu, please try what I have suggested as well
[11:20] <jag_> bazhang - anything for me :-)
[11:20] <Almindor> b1n42y, it's there yes, auto
[11:20] <quibbler> jag_: system-administration-software sources  make sure that software restricted is checked
[11:20] <b1n42y> Almindor, set to perfomance
[11:20] <wanttotryubuntu> buffer i/o error on dev sr0, sr 3:0:0:0 [sence key] medium error [current] add.sence  id crc or ecc error
[11:20] <bazhang> jag_, checking right now
[11:20] <Almindor> b1n42y, hmm well I'm on xubuntu here actually.. will need to figure this out, give me sec :)
[11:21] <b1n42y> ;p
[11:21] <wanttotryubuntu> bazhang and something like 'bios' failed to hand off ACPE [or something] BUG? .. and so on
[11:23] <jag_> bazhang - yes checked it...now what shall i do
[11:24] <Almindor> b1n42y, that helped
[11:24] <bazhang> jag_, you need to enable multiverse, then save and update
[11:24] <b1n42y> Almindor, maybe try adding to panel cpu scaling monitor then left click
[11:24] <Almindor> b1n42y, it's still a bit laggy but better
[11:24] <Almindor> b1n42y, yeah I installed xfce4-power-manager :)
[11:24] <ysis> b1n42y, I'm now with GNOME and did as you said, but when I open the preferences there is nothing like 'jack sensing'.
[11:24] <ubuntu__> hi
[11:25] <b1n42y> Almindor, also are your systems identical in terms of software maybe u have something like beagle etc......no probs
[11:25] <bazhang> wanttotryubuntu, without more specificity of the bug and exact error message cant really tell you
[11:25] <Almindor> b1n42y, nah both are stripped of this crap :)
[11:25] <Almindor> b1n42y, first thing I uninstall on [u]buntu
[11:25] <b1n42y> ;p
[11:25] <Almindor> + mono :)
[11:25] <glymph> wanttotryubuntu's error "medium error" suggests  a CD-ROM hardware problem, does it not?
[11:25] <b1n42y> ysis, ok tell me exactly what youve done to the click
[11:26] <jag_> from where do i enable multiverse ?
[11:26] <kjdro> is there a way to abort copy in mc , and continue after apt-get upgrade ?
[11:26] <quibbler> jag_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[11:26] <kjdro> jag_: go to system menu then administration and look for synaptic
[11:26] <jag_> yes
[11:26] <jag_> i enabled multiverse
[11:26]  * b1n42y goes for smoke ...
[11:26] <jag_> still i dont see VLC on my synaptic list
[11:27] <kjdro> jag_: quibbler
[11:27] <liz85> salut a tous
[11:27] <ysis> b1n42y, I double-clicked on the speaker symbol in the panel and clicked on the 'Preferences' button. Or what do you mean?
[11:27] <kjdro> jag_: that's the answere for everithing that is multimedia related..
[11:28] <quibbler> kjdro: ?
[11:28] <kjdro> nothing.... pointed out your answere to jag_
[11:28] <bazhang> jag_, did you update (ie sudo apt-get update)
[11:28] <vdx09> hi everyone :P
[11:29] <jag_> updating
[11:29] <vdx09> can someone answer my question?
[11:30] <das__> RARE
[11:30] <bazhang> vdx09, need a question first
[11:30] <ysis> vdx09, just ask your question. This is a help channel.
[11:31] <vdx09> i wanna know weather, the latest release of ubuntu supports driver for my machine?
[11:31] <wanttotryubuntu> ok MD5 check sum is correct
[11:31] <bazhang> vdx09, the current stable version intrepid? what is the driver in question:please specify
[11:31] <wanttotryubuntu> there is no issue with download / burnt cd
[11:31] <b1n42y> ysis, yep and you scrolled down?
[11:32] <quibbler> jag_: go here and enable the Medibuntu repos :https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[11:32] <bazhang> wanttotryubuntu, and what were the errors shown when removing quiet and splash from kernel boot options
[11:32] <voodoor> I installed intrepid onto a USB drive with the Intrepid startup disk tool. I've now booted off that, updated it and customised it by adding extra repos and packages. If I now boot off this usb install on another machine and then install it, will all my extra packages get installed too?
[11:32] <wanttotryubuntu> basically it keeps scrolling buffer i/o error on dev sr0
[11:33] <bazhang> quibbler, medibuntu for vlc?
[11:33] <quibbler> bazhang: he wants to play dvd's
[11:33] <wanttotryubuntu> is there a way by which i can copy paste what scrolls in busybox and paste it on paste bin ?  today is my first try at linux in my life
[11:33] <b1n42y> ysis, ?
[11:33] <ysis> b1n42y, I did.
[11:33] <ysis> Pidgin just crashed...
[11:33] <b1n42y> ysis, what device are you using alsa?
[11:34] <b1n42y> ysis, sound server*
[11:34] <ysis> b1n42y, Device is 'HDA Intel (Alsa mixer)'
[11:34] <ysis> but there are others available
[11:34] <quibbler> bazhang:  so he will want to: apt-get vlc libdvdcss2 w32codecs
[11:34] <bazhang> !hdaintel | ysis
[11:35] <CrocoJet> how to select on set of file type (checking sub-directories) via terminal command?
[11:35] <voodoor> do customised ubuntu usb installs retain their modifications if installed?
[11:35] <Sertse> hi
[11:35] <ysis> bazhang, thanks! Will have a look and report back.
[11:35] <CrocoJet> (to delete some files)
[11:35] <jase1> you need to mount a persitence drive on the usb voodoor
[11:35] <bazhang> quibbler, alternately he can just download those two debs and also sudo apt-get install vlc (without enabling medibuntu repos) ie jag_
[11:35] <kjdro> is there a way to abort file copy in mc and then continue where it left of ?
[11:36] <b1n42y> ysis, im out of ideas ask your question again, at least weve tried something ..sorry
[11:36] <bazhang> voodoor, you are wanting the persistent usb
[11:36] <quibbler> bazhang: i thought you need medibuntu for the lib and w32codecs
[11:36] <voodoor> jase1: Yes, I did that and my changes are persistent but what if I was to install from this USB? Would I just end up with vanilla intrepid or would it include all my updates and extra packages?
[11:36] <jag_> its installing now
[11:36] <bazhang> quibbler, aye but can get without enabling repos
[11:37] <quibbler> bazhang: how?
[11:37] <jag_> thnx bazhang...and thnx quibbler for medibuntu
[11:37] <jag_> i will check it out tooo
[11:37] <sprinkmeier_> wanttotryubuntu, (joining in late, sorry if this has been covered) did you try to run the media-check on the same HW that you're having the trouble on? You say the MD5 is OK but scrolling sr0 errors sounds a lot like trouble reading the media. I'm thinking the CD or the drive is dodgy.
[11:37] <jase1> im not sure voodoor
[11:37] <kjdro> i ges there is no way to do that .. is it ??? at least is there a way to start copy and tell not to copy already existing files ???
[11:37] <bazhang> quibbler, by simply downloading the debs there then installing with gdebi or the command line
[11:38] <quibbler> bazhang: with wget
[11:38] <wanttotryubuntu> anything else for me ?
[11:38] <CrocoJet> kjdro, are you talking in local copy or remote copy?
[11:38] <quibbler> bazhang: i didn't know that
[11:38] <kjdro> local
[11:38] <kjdro> i'm copyn files to usb drive
[11:39] <JUAN> Hola
[11:39] <bazhang> wanttotryubuntu, what were the errors with removing quiet and splash from kernel boot options --> paste.ubuntu.com with them please
[11:39] <CrocoJet> I "think" that is not possible .. "resume" of copy command
[11:39] <wanttotryubuntu> bazhang, i would love to do that.. this is my first try of linux, i tried selecting text there but i could not
[11:40] <jag_> when will i learn these things !!!! thnx guys...works like a ge
[11:40] <CrocoJet> remote copy is possible via ftp command
[11:40] <jag_> gem*
[11:40] <wanttotryubuntu> bazhang how to copy and save the text there ? so that i can open the file in windows and paste it
[11:40] <jigspan> hi i am new user to ubuntu can anyone help me connect to india irc channel
[11:40] <bazhang> wanttotryubuntu, and you removed those (quiet and splash ) from kernel boot options?
[11:40] <dobblego> is there a wiki page on converting a ubuntu machine to dual boot with windows?
[11:40] <bazhang> !in | jigspan
[11:40] <CrocoJet> "/join #india"
[11:40] <wanttotryubuntu> bazhang yes, seaphore told me that one .. then splash screen doesnt come and many commands run
[11:41] <voodoor> wanttotryubuntu : You can use the > command to dump the output into a file
[11:41] <voodoor> operator, i mean
[11:41] <bazhang> !dualboot | dobblego
[11:41] <wanttotryubuntu> voodoor if u type the exact command i can write it down here and reboot
[11:42] <wanttotryubuntu> it would be so great to paste the error log there
[11:42] <voodoor> wanttotryubuntu: Type the command that generates your error in the terminal but then add
[11:42] <voodoor> > file
[11:42] <wattazoum> hello all
[11:42] <voodoor> at the end
[11:42] <b1n42y> ysis, i hope you are at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6589810#post6589810
[11:42] <dobblego> bazhang, thanks
[11:42] <voodoor> like
[11:42] <voodoor> busybox options > error.txt
[11:42] <b1n42y> ysis, link from bahang's link
[11:42] <zeroXten> ohh.. just need 5 more people in this chan
[11:43] <voodoor> or
[11:43] <voodoor> you can dump stderr
[11:43] <wanttotryubuntu> so i reboot --> F6 --> remove splash and quiet --> "here is where the errors keep running"  ... ok i will try typing options > error.txt
[11:43] <voodoor> No
[11:43] <voodoor> open terminal and type
[11:43] <b1n42y> zeroXten, its already leet
[11:43] <zeroXten> heh
[11:43] <voodoor> dmesg | more
[11:43] <wanttotryubuntu> voodoor, right now i am in windows
[11:43] <CrocoJet> impressive numbers users here .. channel
[11:43] <wattazoum> I was looking at the file /etc/cron.daily/apt and I see a sleep there (like for 30 minutes). Does someone know why there is this sleep ?
[11:44] <zeroXten> so, using compiz how can I tile all currently showing windows? if that is at all possible
[11:44] <wanttotryubuntu> voodoor, to keep main channel less flooded, can i please pm you ?
[11:44] <voodoor> wanttotryubuntu: Is this an error that appears when ubuntu is booting and you want to see it?
[11:44] <sprinkmeier_> wanttotryubuntu, if the errors occur during boot-up (i.e. before you log on) then the "> file" trick probably won't work.
[11:44] <voodoor> sprinkmeier: Yes, just picked myself up on that
[11:44] <kjdro> is there a way to copy files from a file structure .. but tell the copying not to copy already copied files ?
[11:45] <sprinkmeier_> wanttotryubuntu, if the system gets as far as booting then "dmesg" wight bring the messages back. Failing that, check /var/log/messages
[11:45] <voodoor> thats about all you need to know, yes
[11:45] <wanttotryubuntu> this is exactly what happens --> boot from cd ---> ubuntu language options ---> "try ubuntu without installing" ---> busybox .. with all possible settings
[11:46] <Omatic> Hi guys, what causes the title bars of windows and dialogs dissapear?
[11:46] <sprinkmeier_> wanttotryubuntu, just to recap... the CD works with identical HW (at a friends place) but you get sr0 media errors when you try to use it on your system?
[11:46] <wanttotryubuntu> yes
[11:46] <quibbler> Omatic: do you have compiz enabled?
[11:46] <wanttotryubuntu> and i have tested 7 cds
[11:46] <voodoor> wanttotryubuntu: Sounds like your optical drive is fkd
[11:47] <erUSUL> wattazoum: the comments in the code explain it... they check if someone is using apt or any frontend it that's the case they sleep that 30 min before trying again
[11:47] <wanttotryubuntu> that is ok, so finally we figured out the problem
[11:47] <voodoor> can you use your CD/DVD drive on that machine OK under Windoze?
[11:47] <wanttotryubuntu> thank you .. how to confirm it ?
[11:47] <horndog> sp
[11:47] <sprinkmeier_> wanttotryubuntu, the only thing I can tink of is that your CD drive is dodgy. If the CD works at your friends place, and the HW is identical (i.e. no driver problems) then all that's left is the drive (or maybe RAM.... run the mem-checker?)
[11:47] <wanttotryubuntu> yes, everything works perfectly under windows, no issues with dvd writer what so ever there
[11:48] <sprinkmeier_> wanttotryubuntu, can you swap out the drive with another one? Can you BIOS boot off external CD Drive?
[11:48] <Omatic> quibbler, yes I do
[11:48] <wattazoum> erUSUL, according to the code, they will always sleep :-/
[11:48] <quibbler> Omatic: open compiz settings manager and enable window decorations
[11:48] <wanttotryubuntu> sprinkmeier_ yes, this is latest DP45SG intel original motherboard ..
[11:49] <sprinkmeier_> So you boot the HW to windows and you can read the disk fine, but when you boot off the disk it borks?
[11:49] <Omatic> quibbler, ok
[11:49] <wanttotryubuntu> sprinkmeier_ yes
[11:49] <quibbler> Omatic: good now?
[11:50] <wanttotryubuntu> sprinkmeier_  plus md5 signature i just checked matches, there is no issue with downloads what so ever, i think all these 7 cds that i labelled BAD are good too .. there seems to be some other issue here
[11:50] <erUSUL> wattazoum: true... well i dunno then ;P
[11:50] <Omatic> quibbler, where do go to get the settings manager
[11:50] <wattazoum> erUSUL, thank you for you help, though :-)
[11:50] <sprinkmeier_> wanttotryubuntu, how certain are you that the whole CD is readable from windows? can you run a checksum on it (no idea how to do that from windows...) Can you run RAM checker off the disk (just in case)? This is the MD5 checksum of the ISO file, not off the disk?
[11:50] <quibbler> Omatic: in synpatic search for compiz settings manager
[11:51] <bazhang> Omatic, via ccsm
[11:51] <bazhang> !ccsm | Omatic
[11:51] <wattazoum> I think I will ask the devs
[11:52] <wanttotryubuntu> sprinkmeier_ ya, the MD5 checksum is of the downloaded iso image which matches, and i have no idea how do the cd checking and ram checking thing [ i am a finance related guy :) ]
[11:52] <vak> hi all
[11:52] <Omatic> quibbler, bazhang, ubottu, thanks guys it's now working
[11:52] <sprinkmeier_> wanttotryubuntu, XP or vista? IIRC vista has a RAM-checker option from the boot-loader. Failing that, boot off the CD and choose the RAM checking option (let's hopt it gets tat far :-)
[11:53] <quibbler> Omatic: ;)
[11:53] <vak> consolekit package is buggy and unfortunatelly no patch is still available Hardy(Ubuntu 8.04.2 )
[11:53] <wanttotryubuntu> sprinker, using windows XP sp3 professional edition, also, which cd u want me to boot from ? the ubuntu one or windows one ?
[11:53] <glymph> wanttotryubuntu: how are you checking the md5sum of the CDs, out of interest?
[11:53] <vak> I'd uninstall this consolekit package from my server, but not sure if I break smth with the unistallation...
[11:54] <wanttotryubuntu> i checked with 2 freeware programs .. is it ok to paste link here ?
[11:54] <sprinkmeier_> wanttotryubuntu, ubuntu one. I don't think that the XP install CD has a RAM checker (FWIW I think the vista one does)
[11:54] <wanttotryubuntu> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM   .. that window program i downloaded, other one was off google
[11:54] <vak> is anyone here familiar with consolekit package?
[11:54] <cubalibre> Hi, all. After using computers (programming, games) since 1984 this is my first attempt on IRC. Hope I don't get banned :-)
[11:55] <sprinkmeier_> glymph, wanttotryubuntu I think the MD5's are being generated off the .ISO file, not the burns CD
[11:55] <sprinkmeier_> s/burns/burnt/
[11:55] <wanttotryubuntu> ok rebooting .. sprinkmeier_  this will take around 10 mins i think for mem check etc ?
[11:55] <glymph> sprinkmeier_: that's what I'm wondering
[11:55] <glymph> wanttotryubuntu: a full RAM check will take a long time
[11:55] <wanttotryubuntu> btw i think there is only option of check cds for defects option after i put ubuntu boot cd .. how to check ram ?
[11:55] <quibbler> !welcome | cubalibre
[11:55] <glymph> wanttotryubuntu: did you run the md5sum on the burned CD or the  iso file from within windows?
[11:55] <sprinkmeier_> wanttotryubuntu, RAM checker runs until you stop it. let it do at least one complete run, should take >> 10 mins
[11:56] <jase1> anyone know if ubuntu 8.10 supports realtek hd audio out of the box?
[11:56] <wanttotryubuntu> glymph iso from within windows
[11:56] <wanttotryubuntu> glymph how to check the cd ? i can do it right now, its in the drive already
[11:56] <ziroday> jase1: realtek cards are historically well supported, but best to test with a livecd.
[11:56] <elmnas> hi guys can someone help me install drivers?  I have em on  a cd
[11:56] <ziroday> elmnas: what drivers?
[11:56] <glymph> wanttotryubuntu: if you're at the busybox prompt type "which md5sum" to see if the program is there
[11:56] <elmnas> internet drivers
[11:56] <wanttotryubuntu> o my bad .. i just checked it out
[11:56] <sprinkmeier_> wanttotryubuntu, if ubuntu CD fails, maybe try ultimate boot cd: http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/
[11:56] <elmnas> wireless usb card
[11:56] <wanttotryubuntu> ya both tests are there
[11:56] <jase1> well im on ubuntu now, sound works but not sure if its the hd drivers or not
[11:57] <bazhang> elmnas, please specify which chipset
[11:57] <ysis> b1n42y, bazhang, I'll update ALSA now and will report back how it went.
[11:57] <b1n42y> thanks
[11:57] <sprinkmeier_> wanttotryubuntu, "both tests" == "media check" and "ram check"?
[11:57] <b1n42y> ysis, you followed that link for 8.10 yes
[11:57] <glymph> hmmm, I assume you can do an md5sum from within busybox with something like "md5sum /dev/sdc" but the /dev/sdc device name will depend on how your IDE ddevices are configured.
[11:58] <cubalibre> My question is: After installing U8.10 on my computer suddenly the arrows and other keys does not work against my VMWare Server. Trying to connect to e.g. virtual XP is no problem, but Win-button, arrows, etc no longer works. This is not a  problem on Fedora10. I tried to reformat an reinstall U8.10, but to no avail. This was not a problem with U8.04. Is there a change with the character set?
[11:58] <elmnas> rtl8187
[11:58] <wanttotryubuntu> sprinkmeier_ ya .. will run both and get back here
[11:58] <ned> is it possible to change screen resolution without restarting x
[11:58] <wanttotryubuntu> gone
[11:58] <glymph> I don't know how to check from within busybox which device name wanttotryubuntu's CD-ROM has
[11:58] <ysis> b1n42y, the one you provided, yes.
[11:58] <ziroday> ned: yes, through xrandr
[11:58] <sprinkmeier_> wanttotryubuntu, close to bed-time here, might not be here when you get back. Best of luck, welcome to Ubuntu!
[11:58] <bazhang> elmnas, are you using that computer currently via ethernet (booted into ubuntu)
[11:58] <b1n42y> yep, well bazhang provided the link ten there was a link from that page
[11:59] <elmnas> I think so
[11:59] <elmnas> I use wired now..
[11:59] <jase1> how would i check if my ubuntu is running with my audio in HD? (my card is realtek hd audio)
[11:59] <ned> im running ubuntu in a vm instance, right now its only taking up one monitor, i want it to stretch to two, any ideass?
[11:59] <bazhang> elmnas, please open the terminal and type ifconfig (assuming the wireless device is plugged in from boot time)
[12:00] <wangjinqu> hello
[12:00] <elmnas> ok
[12:00] <Omatic> Hae guys, I have a flash disk which has files that are refusing to be deleted, claiming that they are read-only, the flash is also recognised as read-only filesystem, I want to format it, I have tried remounting it as read/write which actually works in that am able to delete files, but something funny is that when I eject it and mount it again I find the same files! what is wrong here guys
[12:00] <bazhang> elmnas, how many entries do you see (eg eth0 lo wlan0)
[12:00] <wangjinqu> anybody who is chinese?
[12:01] <ubuntistas> here dude
[12:01] <elmnas> wait second loading up
[12:01] <glymph> Omatic: did you unmount it befoore ejecting?
[12:01] <bazhang> wangjinqu, in #ubuntu-cn , #ubuntu-hk , or #ubuntu-tw
[12:01] <elmnas> http://pastebin.com/m6b4ccbe3
[12:01] <quibbler> !cn | wangjinqu
[12:01] <Omatic> glymph, yeah
[12:01] <wangjinqu> just sync
[12:01] <elmnas> here is the picture --> of the map
[12:01] <elmnas> http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/1016/80804452.png
[12:02] <ubuntistas> 喂
[12:02] <wangjinqu> 哈哈
[12:02] <wangjinqu> 找到了一个
[12:02] <cubalibre> Omatic, unmount your flash and try an reformat it with Partition Editor. That did it for me.
[12:02] <bazhang> elmnas, what map; just the entries will suffice (ie eth0 lo and wlan0)
[12:02] <ubuntistas> 如何你在干什么？
[12:02] <zeroXten> hmm, i'm guessing gnome/compiz doesn't support tiling of windows =(
[12:02] <wangjinqu> 我在聊天 问问题
[12:02] <bazhang> ubuntistas, wangjinqu english only here
[12:02] <ubuntistas> ok boss wait a minute
[12:02] <wangjinqu> i am sorry
[12:03] <wangjinqu>  i just want to know  is there any chinese people here
[12:03] <bazhang> zeroXten, the folks in #compiz-fusion can answer that more comprehensively
[12:03] <bazhang> wangjinqu, this is not a chat channel
[12:03] <jase1> how would i check if my ubuntu is running with my audio in HD? (my card is realtek hd audio)
[12:03] <bazhang> wangjinqu, you were instructed where to go for ubuntu support in Chinese.
[12:04] <wangjinqu> i know
[12:04] <Omatic> cubalibre, I tried using gparted, yes it's identified as one of the devices but all options buttons apart from new button are in insert mode meaning that I cannot even delete the partiton or which partion editor will work
[12:04] <zeroXten> thanks bazhang
[12:04] <nothing> nothing
[12:04] <elmnas> umm thats the folder of the cd
[12:04] <_jet__> bazhang: is there an channel for  ubuntu support in english ?
[12:04] <elmnas> with linux drivers I got to the network card
[12:05] <neeteex> can someone help me to find how to encode into utf-8 using gedit ?
[12:05] <quibbler> _jet__: you are in it
[12:05] <erUSUL> neeteex: it should do it by default
[12:05] <_jet__> quibbler: thanks
[12:05] <quibbler> _jet__:  welcome
[12:06] <neeteex> gedit is supposed to have a menu to change encoding : where is it ? how to get it ?
[12:06] <v1c> neeteex: just paste some unicode char on it then safe.maybe it works
[12:06] <bazhang> elmnas, with the command ifconfig in the terminal how many entries do you see
[12:06] <_jet__> hi, I'm looking for help to configure my ubuntu to be router for my zaurus (angstrom), using USB cable
[12:06] <neeteex> erUSUL: it sometimes fails...
[12:06] <elmnas> ok ok
[12:06] <cubalibre> Omatic, are you using some other software like VMWare Player etc. that have mounted your flash?
[12:07] <elmnas> http://pastebin.com/m45f143b7 sorry bazhang
[12:07] <elmnas> wrote wrong before ..
[12:07] <erUSUL> neeteex: how it fails?
[12:07] <fatehaze> anyone available to help me troubleshoot an lcd monitor issue?
[12:07] <v1c> fatehaze: wht prob?
[12:07] <bazhang> elmnas, do you have two wireless devices? ie one internal and one external?
[12:08] <elmnas> yeah
[12:08] <neeteex> erUSUL: well, part of it has been mixed ISO + utf-8 apparently
[12:08] <elmnas> will I remove on of em?
[12:08] <elmnas> maybe easier
[12:08] <Omatic> cubalibre, no
[12:08] <elmnas> I can do it
[12:08] <FloodBot2> elmnas: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:08] <neeteex> and I'd like to correct this
[12:08] <fatehaze> v1c: when i leave ubuntu on overnight running through videos in vlc, the monitor eventually turns off... forever
[12:08] <artemis> did anyone play pcsx2 on ubuntu??
[12:08] <artemis> is it good?
[12:08] <bazhang> elmnas, could you please paste.ubuntu.com the output of lspci
[12:08] <elmnas> I can unplugg one of em.. the one is a intern and another one is a extern usb
[12:08] <elmnas> lspci? whats that?
[12:09] <elmnas> ok
[12:09] <bazhang> elmnas, it is a command you enter in to the terminal
[12:09] <erUSUL> neeteex: well the only explanation is a gedit bug... report it. what makes you think it has mixed the encodings?
[12:09] <fatehaze> v1c: when i try to "wake" the pc out of sleep mode the monitor stays off, even after a reboot, although ubuntu is running fine
[12:09] <nazkul3248> hi all
[12:09] <v1c> fatehaze: it may from refresh rate. if you don't have correct refersh rate i'm afraid your broke the monitor
[12:09] <elmnas> http://pastebin.com/m54fd7797
[12:09] <nazkul3248> I have installed win after linux and now I got error 15
[12:09] <nazkul3248> can anyone help me?
[12:09] <fatehaze> v1c: the refresh rate and res are ok, and the monitor works great until the screensaver comes on over vlc
[12:10] <quibbler> !grub | nazkul3248
[12:10] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub nazkul3248
[12:11] <v1c> fatehaze: yeah sometimes tht happen on some device. like mine. I just disable sleep mode and tht run ok
[12:11] <tony426> anyone know if i'd be better off with onboard realtek 888 or audigy 2?
[12:11] <neeteex> erUSUL: I thinks it's just that I don't know how to use it : in notepad++ I would select, "change encoding to" and that woul be fine :/
[12:11] <irbdavid> Hi, I just bought a  dell mini 9 - is it possible to install 8.10 without having a USB DVD drive?  I dont have a PC either, only a mac, so not sure how I can go about making a bootable flash drive?
[12:11] <fatehaze> v1c: i disabled all power saving options and set the screensaver to 2 hours (can't turn it off), i also turned off the power saving features in xorg.conf
[12:11] <fatehaze> v1c: i thought the xorg.conf stuff fixed it, it worked for about a week but now it's doing it again
[12:11] <ubuntistas> 这里有谁性狗娘养？
[12:12] <nazkul3248> with find /grub/stage1 I haven't found nothing :(
[12:12] <quibbler> neeteex: view highlight mode?
[12:12] <nazkul3248> it's a MESS!
[12:12] <nazkul3248> :(
[12:12] <ortsvorsteher> !cn | ubuntistas
[12:12] <v1c> fatehaze: did u check the BIOS config also?
[12:12] <neeteex> maybe gedit is not as powerfull as windows notepad++, but that sounds odd...
[12:12] <fatehaze> v1c: i couldn't find anything related to monitors or power saving in the pc bios
[12:12] <cubalibre> Omatic, I just tried with GParted 0.3.8. without any problems. Can you do a sudo fdisk -l before and after unmount and post the results. Also please check http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-150412.html. They are suggesting a Live CD. Maybe that will do the trick.
[12:13] <v1c> fatehaze: and try to choose other screensaver. the lite one maybe can help
[12:13] <nazkul3248> no one?
[12:13] <fatehaze> v1c: i thought that may be it too, i had it set on random, but i changed it to blank and others with no luck
[12:13] <jase1> how would i check if my ubuntu is running with my audio in HD? (my card is realtek hd audio)
[12:13] <fatehaze> v1c: i also tried installing the other screensaver package but no dice
[12:14] <Fougner> nazkul3248, are you sure it isn't there?
[12:14] <_jet__> hi, I can't find any documentation to share my internet connexion over usb
[12:14] <Fougner> normally, it's easier to install windows first, and then ubuntu
[12:14] <v1c> fatehaze: hmm.... is difficult. I assume tht was device driver bug or something
[12:14] <fatehaze> v1c: i agree :P  i'm running nvidia drivers on a 6600, they work flawlessly on everything else
[12:15] <v1c> fatehaze: trying update your vga driver on packages.ubuntu.com
[12:15] <fatehaze> v1c: eventually, after many reboots, the monitor will turn on again and work fine
[12:15] <fatehaze> v1c: i can't even log in at this point :(
[12:16] <v1c> fatehaze: nvidia driver have many bug things right now. I always do update for my nvidia (9100)
[12:16] <fatehaze> v1c: any way of doing that through ssh?
[12:16] <nazkul3248> :(((ù
[12:17] <elmnas> bazhang
[12:17] <elmnas> bazhang how it going?
[12:18] <vak> anyone here familiar with consolekit package?
[12:18] <imaginativeone> how do I change my default video viewer from Movie Player to something else?  (Ubuntu)
[12:18] <bazhang> elmnas, did you paste.ubuntu.com with that command output
[12:18] <v1c> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=nvidia&searchon=names&suite=intrepid-updates&section=all
[12:18] <elmnas> yeah...
[12:18] <vak> consolekit  0.2.3-3ubuntu5 is buggy
[12:18] <bazhang> elmnas, need an actual link to it
[12:18] <elmnas> http://pastebin.com/m54fd7797
[12:18] <elmnas> well I send again lol
[12:19] <fatehaze> v1c: thanks, do these get updated with automatic updates?
[12:19] <ziroday> What is the difference between adduser and useradd?
[12:19] <erUSUL> neeteex: in gedit when you save it you can choose what encoding
[12:20] <v1c>  fatehaze: i dunno since i turn off auto update to prevent silly update stuff, but nvidia is restricted driver and may not automaticly updated.
[12:20] <bazhang> elmnas, do you have a wifi hotspot to test on (ie without encryption)
[12:20] <erUSUL> ziroday: one is to be used interactively and the other is to be used from scripts... the man page of useradd says it clearly
[12:20] <elmnas> yeah
[12:20] <v1c> nvidia-180 is the newest
[12:20] <erUSUL> ziroday: i quote " useradd is a low level utility for adding users. On Debian, administrators should usually use adduser(8) instead."
[12:20] <neeteex> erUSUL: I've just seen that. I wish It could be simpler though :-/ I miss notepad++
[12:20] <elmnas> it works fine but I guess I will unplugg the other one
[12:20] <ziroday> erUSUL: so adduser is recommended?
[12:20] <elmnas> first
[12:21] <_jet__> nobody tried to connect a pda over usb ?
[12:21] <v1c> neeteex: i like using Geany text editor
[12:21] <erUSUL> neeteex: there are many editors in linux you can try... you can use scite the editor notepad is based on
[12:21] <elmnas> I be back bazhang
[12:21] <erUSUL> !info scite | neeteex
[12:21] <elmnas> thanks for help
[12:21] <elmnas> a lot
[12:21] <v1c> _jet__: sorry i don't have pda
[12:21] <elmnas> I be back when Im done
[12:21] <erUSUL> neeteex: notepadd++ i meant
[12:21] <FloodBot2> elmnas: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:22] <v1c> !Geany
[12:22] <v1c> silly bot
[12:22] <fatehaze> v1c: any idea how i can update from terminal?  ssh is my only option
[12:22] <erUSUL> !info geany > v1c
[12:22] <quibbler> !editors | neeteex
[12:23] <neeteex> erUSUL: do you mean scite is like notepad++ ,
[12:23] <quibbler> !code | neeteex
[12:23] <erUSUL> fatehaze: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude safe-upgrade
[12:23] <erUSUL> neeteex: yep
[12:23] <fatehaze> erUSUL: tyvm, gonna try it now
[12:23] <v1c> fatehaze: I can't help further. I just do manual download for that stuff
[12:23] <v1c> !bastard
[12:23] <fatehaze> v1c: i understand, i couldn't help me further either, hehe
[12:24] <erUSUL> !botabuse | v1c
[12:24] <v1c> oopss... bastard is PSX emulator
[12:24] <erUSUL> !language | v1c
[12:24] <bazhang> v1c, stop that
[12:24] <_jet__> there is no way to route one interface to another ?
[12:24] <erUSUL> _jet__: internet connection sharing?
[12:24] <v1c> b[a]stard is PSX emulator
[12:24] <nach_> hi ! is there a way to find a particular filename in a source package ? with apt ?
[12:24] <v1c> ya know!!
[12:24] <jilianghou> hello
[12:25] <erUSUL> !inetsharing | _jet__
[12:25] <_jet__> erUSUL: yes,
[12:25] <v1c> i just think tht was already ported into linux :P
[12:25] <marko-_--> how do i logout someone from an account as root ?
[12:25] <_jet__> ubottu: thanks
[12:25] <acu> \j ubuntu.it
[12:26] <glymph> nach_: There's "apt-file" which can be used to search bby filename
[12:26] <erUSUL> v1c: this channel is not the place to find out if it was ported or not. and less so by giving random commands to the bot; thanks
[12:26] <quibbler> acu: /join #ubuntu-it
[12:26] <v1c> ok. sorry
[12:26] <nach_> glymph: yes but not on source packages..
[12:28] <glymph> what are you searching for, nach_?
[12:28] <azul_> hi #ubuntu.
[12:28] <nach_> i'm looking for a file name pcm_bluetooth.c
[12:28] <azul_> After installing the latest updates last night i am seeing bus errors from both firefox and epiphany.
[12:28] <erUSUL> nach_: install apt-file and enable the deb-src repositories... or use packages.ubuntu.com
[12:28] <azul_> Both crash after clicking on the first link.
[12:29] <nach_> erUSUL: it's done but i cannot find file
[12:29] <nach_> it only find file in the none source packages
[12:29] <v1c> You have searched for files named pcm_bluetooth in suite intrepid, all sections, and all architectures.
[12:29] <v1c> Sorry, your search gave no results
[12:29] <azul_> has anyone heard about / experienced something similar? This is on 8.10  on an i386 based computer
[12:30] <neeteex> Sorry, but Scite lacks an encode menu too..
[12:30] <nach_> vlc: but this file exists in bluez
[12:30] <v1c> it may the same source file on all distro like SUSe
[12:31] <vak> how to install consolekit 0.2.10 from sources? it is still not yet published for Hardy :(
[12:31] <v1c> HELP! Standard ubuntu is too lack on lib!
[12:32] <chris-p> should LD_LIBRARY_PATH be unset?
[12:32] <v1c> vak: extract it using archiver and copy as root
[12:32] <thrope> hi - my update manager says "not all updates can be installed" and then is tryign to do a dist-upgrade... but I am already at 8.10 - whats going on?
[12:33] <v1c> HELP! Standard ubuntu is too lack on lib!
[12:33] <wangjinqu> this is part update
[12:33] <vak> vlc, and when it will be officially available will it be automatically replaced during apt-get upgrade?..
[12:33] <bazhang> v1c, ??
[12:33] <v1c> HELP! Standard ubuntu is too lack on lib!
[12:33] <erUSUL> nach_: a google search seems to indicate that that file is part of alsa-lib
[12:34] <v1c>  vak: when next release of course. the author maybe lazy or something..... :P
[12:34] <quibbler> vak: in hardy version is 0.2.3-3
[12:34] <vak> quibbler: yes and it is the problem!
[12:35] <vak> quibbler: 0.2.3-3 has an awesome bug!
[12:35] <vak> quibbler: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/consolekit/+bug/284229
[12:35] <daftykins> thrope, a dist-upgrade isn't a version change, it's just ensuring the latest packages are gotten
[12:35] <daftykins> i always run apt-get dist-upgrade.
[12:35] <vak> it is fixed in interpid already
[12:35] <v1c> Like usual. Linux app have many awesome bug
[12:35] <vak> although not yet in Hardy
[12:36] <bazhang> !bugs > v1c
[12:36] <vak> quibbler: I consider to install the newer version from sources
[12:36]  * sokolik is just looking
[12:37] <vak> quibbler: but don't know how to get it automatically upgraded after an official release comes.
[12:37] <v1c> vak: it is compiled already?
[12:37] <vak> v1c: I don't think so...
[12:37] <SiebaZ> hey guys is it possibble to get ppscsi working on intrepid?
[12:37] <v1c> ubottu: thanks and don't worry. I'm also a programmer
[12:37] <jrib> thrope: what is the current status?
[12:38] <vak> v1c: where can I check availability of not published but compiled versions?
[12:38] <v1c> vak: if its not compiled yet then you can even replace it
[12:39] <v1c> vak: just searh with google. someone must like to compile it ready
[12:40] <lnSE> Few minutes ago Ubuntu suddenly restarted. I have no idea what happened, but here is an except from the syslog file that seemed relavent: http://124.122.179.20/wtf.log ....Do you guys have any idea what's going on??
[12:40] <vak> v1c: well, compiling it is not the big deal, I am quite sure I can do it on my own
[12:40] <irbdavid> Hi, I just bought a  dell mini 9 - is it possible to install 8.10 without having a USB DVD drive?  I dont have a PC either, only a mac, so not sure how I can go about making a bootable flash drive?
[12:41] <lnSE> I don't know why the main process was killed.
[12:41] <v1c> vak: then compile it then
[12:41] <magnetron> irbdavid→ install from usb stick is probably the simplest way
[12:41] <vak> v1c: the only trouble is that it all goes about production server and I'd like "to keep the door open" for the next official update of this package
[12:41] <v1c> irbdavid: as long your BIOS support boot from USB devices and u are safe
[12:42] <irbdavid> magnetron: How do I make this usb stick though?  I can put the cd image onto it, but not sure how to make it bootable?
[12:42] <Samuel-NotAFK> Can I suspend my machine to disk and then start it up again with an encrypted swap partition?
[12:42] <irbdavid> does it need anything special doing to it, like a different FS or something?
[12:42] <vak> v1c: also, if compiled version will break the functionality of the server I'd like to be able to uninstall the compiled version clearly.
[12:42] <magnetron> irbdavid→ do you have an intel Mac? if so, boot the Mac from the CD and use the provided tool for making a bootable usb disk
[12:43] <v1c> vak: i never wait for official update. If i want to hack then i just paste as root :P tht my style
[12:43] <irbdavid> yeah, that could work...
[12:43] <v1c> vak: as long the installer is keeped you can always uninstall it of course :P
[12:43] <frenchy> does anyone here use blogtk?
[12:43] <magnetron> irbdavid→ ubuntu 8.10 is the only version yet to include the "bootable flash maker"
[12:43] <ortsvorsteher> !anyone | frenchy
[12:44] <ysis> b1n42y, bazhang: Success!
[12:44] <frenchy> im using it with blogger.com but the blog title is greyed out so i can't name the blog
[12:44] <v1c> irbdavid: yup, you need FS like ext3 or the other supported
[12:44] <vak> v1c: it goes about production server... hacking and cowboy style is a no-go.
[12:44] <irbdavid> Right
[12:44] <abdullah> i've a problem with Microdia PC Camera (SN9C120)
[12:45] <vak> v1c: i need to fix things in Right Way (tm)
[12:45] <abdullah> i can't get this web cam work with ubuntu 8.10
[12:45] <v1c> vak: i can't help in good way.... Since i work to make portable app :P
[12:46] <vak> i see
[12:46] <SiebaZ> hey guys is it possibble to get ppscsi working on intrepid?
[12:46] <abdullah> anyone tried this wcam on ubuntu 8.10 ??
[12:47] <v1c> abdullah: not yet
[12:47] <ZmAY> is java working well in intrepid 64 and firefox 3.0.7
[12:47] <v1c> ZmAY: yes
[12:48] <axelpaxel> I have to panels on my Desktop. One with "Applications » Places » System" and so on, and another one with a Window Selector. I've arranged it so that the "Applications » Places » System" one is above the other one, but the Window Selector one always gets on top after a reboot. Can this be fixed?
[12:49] <v1c> axelpaxel: tht was better. last time i change it. it just dissapear
[12:50] <axelpaxel> Hmm. Sounds weird, vlc
[12:50] <axelpaxel> v1c, sorry
[12:50] <abdullah_> here's the errors i face while compiling the source
[12:50] <abdullah_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1090347
[12:51] <v1c> axelpaxel: maybe remade a new account will fix it. good luck
[12:51] <disappearedng> Hey everyone, I am interested to read about gcc and all its products, I have a list of books that I have, which would you recommend? http://pastie.org/410844
[12:52] <v1c> disappearedng: me? lets join ##freebasic
[12:52] <abdullah_> can i make Mirodia webcam work on ubuntu 8.10 ?
[12:52] <v1c> abdullah_: what software u are using to display cam?
[12:53] <abdullah_> i'm using camorama
[12:53] <abdullah_> and skype
[12:54] <v1c> abdullah_: and your webcam type?
[12:54] <v1c> abdullah_: and name
[12:54] <abdullah_> Bus 005 Device 009: ID 0c45:613c Microdia PC Camera (SN9C120)
[12:56] <v1c> abdullah_: i'm sorry, but that device is may not supported yet
[12:56] <v1c> abdullah_: for ubuntu
[12:56] <Padhu> abdullah: what about error log
[12:57] <ZmAY> i am having several folders in /usr/lib/jvm/  is that ok? or is it enough to have only one
[13:01] <Ariens_Hyperion> Hi, is there a way to get 256 color suport in the gnome terminal?
[13:05] <abdullah__> Bus 005 Device 009: ID 0c45:613c Microdia PC Camera (SN9C120)
[13:05] <abdullah__>  i found the source for this webcam driver
[13:05] <abdullah__>  http://www.linux-projects.org/modules/mydownloads/visit.php?cid=2&lid=44
[13:05] <abdullah__>  but can't compile it
[13:05] <FloodBot2> abdullah__: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:05] <abdullah__>  when i "make" i face alot of errors
[13:06] <zch> ok this really doesn't have much to do with ubuntu itself, although server i am running is ubuntu, but i've spent over 10 hours trying to fix this, i googled until my eyes bleed, and i am about to commit ritual suicide
[13:06] <vak> will the package installed with "dpkg -i" later be upgraded with "apt-get upgrade" ?
[13:06] <shinoj> anybody knows how empathy works in voice chat?
[13:07] <zch> I have thomson speedtouch 780wl, and I can't get to forward port 80, 21 and 443, any other random port i can forward normally
[13:07] <zch> but these rules are simply ignored
[13:08] <zch> so i thought it must be that web admin interface uses port 80, so i switched it to random port, but nope nada zero zip
[13:08] <eriol_> hello guys
[13:08] <jojo1> des gens qui parle fr svp?
[13:09] <zch> ofcourse my retard isp doesn't provide admin password to router with excuse "we don't have it" so i had to find exploit and hack the damned router (luckily it's 10 seconds to sploit the crap)
[13:09] <jcfp> !fr | jojo1
[13:09] <jojo1> thx
[13:10] <zch> and i tried literaly everything but still i can't forward port 80, my server opens just fine on random port, say i make rule remote port 1337 to local port 80 on my ubuntu box, and that works fine
[13:10] <zch> ssh works normaly
[13:10] <zch> but web port just refuses to work, and no my isp isn't blocking web port
[13:10] <zch> does anyone have any idea before i commit seppuku
[13:11] <bandi> Hi
[13:11] <zch> 10 hours of my life ... i hate my isp ... and before someone says change it, it's only isp in the area, and i need that router because of iptv
[13:12] <bandi> does anyone have experience with the Option iCon 225 hsdpa modem?
[13:12] <Ejlan> any one know why my sound suddenly disappears after 24+ uptime
[13:13] <guyiom> of course we know
[13:13] <guyiom> thats obvious
[13:13] <Ejlan> >_>
[13:18] <Ejlan> it don't seem to be any problem with alsa (tryed to reboot alsa)
[13:19] <Leonheart>  Ejlan: device broken
[13:20] <Ejlan> it works after a cold boot
[13:20] <josue> athletic_club
[13:21] <josue> join #athletic_club
[13:22] <Leonheart> Ejlan: you are playing too long music maybe?
[13:22] <Ejlan> and what would that be
[13:23] <wers> how do I write on my hfs drive?
[13:25] <Dr_willis> !hfs
[13:25] <Leonheart> Ejlan: in programmer side, playing waveform larger then 32-bit cause error :P
[13:26] <Leonheart> i mean 32-bit tick
[13:26] <Ejlan> k
[13:26] <Ejlan> i don't think i do that
[13:27] <Samuel-NotAFK> Why can't Ubuntu provide both KDE3 AND KDE4?!?!??
[13:28] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. some people never learn do they
[13:28] <Dr_willis> I just gave him the unofficial (from what i kn0w) urls for 3.5
[13:28] <ilembitov> Hi! Can't get my iPod Shuffle to be seen under Ubuntu's 8.10 LiveCD. It shows up in Nautilus as a USB stick, but I can't even open it as a USB Stick, not to mention that Rhythmbox doesn't show that an iPod is attached
[13:29] <samahui> 혹시 한국 사람 없습니까?
[13:32] <pf> siemka
[13:32] <ikonia> !pl | PasQueee
[13:32] <ikonia> PasQueee: I explained that to you in #kubuntu
[13:33] <_jet__> hi, I was able to configure internet sharing over usb, between ubuntu and angstrom
[13:33] <_jet__> but I rebooted both computers
[13:33] <_jet__> and I can't make it working again
[13:33] <metho> is there any program for ubuntu that can install the entire theme in one go rather making changes in variou places
[13:33] <shredder12> I am using intrepid and was wondering if  the new beta version of amarok  available in the repositories.. coz.. i m still using the old 1.4.1 version and my synaptic doesn't show the new version..
[13:34] <cemc> I'm on Intrepid desktop, GNOME. running mc in xterm. when I press Alt+S to search, I'm getting a character written at the prompt, and not the search textbox. anybody any ideas? the keyboard layout is USA
[13:34] <_jet__> I'm not sure what to do...
[13:34] <zicho> is there anyway to make the *-hotcard being not case sensitive? for example *lol* vill also include *LOL*
[13:35] <makeitfunky> i need some help to uninstall a modul corectly
[13:35] <makeitfunky> can somebody help?
[13:35] <Zzeiss> Question on kernel upgrades: is there any clue as to when Ubuntu will jump to .28?
[13:35] <Zzeiss> makeitfunky: use rmmod.  That's the canonical way to do it.
[13:36] <makeitfunky> i have compil alsa-driver manually for the latest version for my sond card emu1616m
[13:36] <RantingHuman> I think Jaunty is getting .28
[13:36] <NativeAngels> hello ive made a host called ang.angelhost.ang and enabled the site, ive also done /etc/hosts file but not working in browser whats wrong ?
[13:36] <makeitfunky> but the sound is bad and i want now to reinstall the old version1.0.17
[13:36] <makeitfunky> i must reinstall it with sinaptic?
[13:37] <makeitfunky> it will remove the 1.0.19 and install the 1.0.17 automaticly?
[13:37] <RantingHuman> Zzeiss: yep, Jaunty will get .28, Alpha 5 already has it
[13:37] <NativeAngels> anyone familier with apache ?
[13:37] <Dr_willis> !apache
[13:38] <NativeAngels> i need some help with gettin a host work
[13:38] <shredder12> is the new amarok version 2.0 available in the repositories..??
[13:39] <_jet__> NativeAngels: I might be able to help
[13:39] <RalphSpencer> Hello
[13:39] <NativeAngels> ok
[13:39] <RalphSpencer> How to come over an unclean NTFS shutdown without the availab
[13:39] <NativeAngels> ive set up a file called ang.angelsite.ang and enabled the site
[13:39] <RalphSpencer> *availablity of windows?
[13:39] <NativeAngels> _jet__
[13:39] <NativeAngels> can i pm you
[13:40] <RalphSpencer> me?
[13:40] <_jet__> NativeAngels: what is pm ?
[13:40] <makeitfunky> nobody to help me to reinstall this modul?
[13:40] <NativeAngels> private message
[13:40] <cumulus007> How many space does a Ubuntu iso take when copying it on a USB stick with usb-creator?
[13:40] <_jet__> NativeAngels: yes
[13:40] <NativeAngels> ok
[13:40] <NativeAngels> ty
[13:40] <RalphSpencer> Anyone to help me?
[13:40] <Dr_willis> cumulus007,  a usb install can fit on a 2gb thumbdrive.. not sure if  it will fit on a 1gb.
[13:41] <jneusteter> test
[13:41] <cumulus007> Dr_willis: I don't mean a normal install, I mean a live install
[13:41] <Dr_willis> cumulus007,  so do i.
[13:41] <cumulus007> the one you can create with the tool delivered with Intrepid
[13:41] <cumulus007> oh
[13:41] <Dr_willis> cumulus007,  i never do a 'normal' insalls to thumbdrives :) they rarely work
[13:42] <cumulus007> but an ISO isn't larger than 700 MB?
[13:42] <Dr_willis> I have a 4gb thumbdrive with Ubuntu on it in usb-drive mode. with persistant save file. that works very well
[13:42] <Dr_willis> cumulus007,  'compression'
[13:42] <shredder12> how can i install amarok2 in ubuntu??
[13:42] <RalphSpencer> Hello?
[13:44] <sorny> an1 knows if theres a oracle xe for ubuntu in a deb package?
[13:44] <ortsvorsteher> shredder12: try in an terminal "sudo apt-get install amarok"
[13:44] <RalphSpencer> Is this gonna remain a mess?
[13:44] <cumulus007> RalphSpencer: what's your problem
[13:44] <ortsvorsteher> !hello | RalphSpencer
[13:45] <Dr_willis> RalphSpencer,  theres a ntfsfix command but its NOT a gurarentee to fix anything i recall
[13:45] <cumulus007> shredder12: by installing the package amarok
[13:45] <shredder12> ortsvorsteher: that jst downloads the older version 1.4.10 which i m currently using.. i was wondering if ubuntu have added the new version of amarok in the repos..
[13:45] <cumulus007> shredder12: or, if you are on Hardy, amarok-kde4
[13:45] <cumulus007> but that's an old version, you should use special repos then
[13:45] <shredder12> cumulus007: how can i do that..
[13:45] <Dr_willis> !find ntfsfix
[13:45] <ortsvorsteher> shredder12: so may you wait till repos are updatet or you search the web for an amarok deb package
[13:45] <Dr_willis> Hmm what was the command...
[13:46] <LSD200> heya all quick Q for anybody able to answer - is Jaunty known to have issues with applets and panels crashing/not showing properly?
[13:46] <cumulus007> shredder12: google
[13:46] <Dr_willis> There it is :)
[13:46] <Kruxeer> hi all :)
[13:46] <ortsvorsteher> LSD200: try #ubuntu+1
[13:46] <Kruxeer> I'm in tty1.how can i start a graphic application in tty7?
[13:46] <LSD200> ah cool cheers :)
[13:46] <shredder12> cumulus007: isn't there a way in synaptic to download the experimental versions..
[13:46] <cumulus007> shredder12: try the backports repos
[13:47] <Dr_willis> Kruxeer,  you mean force an X app to launch on the X desktop? X is running on tty7 right?
[13:47] <Kruxeer> Dr_willis, yeah doctor :)
[13:47] <atmosx> hello
[13:47] <atmosx> I have problems installingl Ubuntu on my laptop
[13:47] <cumulus007> Kruxeer: i want to know that to
[13:47] <atmosx> can someone help me? The LiveCD hangs up when I choose the keyboard layout
[13:47] <_jet__> is there anybody willing to troubleshoot why my internet sharing doesn't work anymore after rebooting both computers?
[13:47] <atmosx> I want to install this via command line, is this possible?
[13:47] <cumulus007> atmosx: is your CD all right?
[13:47] <Dr_willis> Kruxeer,  theres security settings taht may block that.. but what used to work.. login as same user, use 'export DISPLAY=localhost:0.0 ' then run the app ie: ' xterm & '
[13:47] <RalphSpencer> Anyone to help me? Please! I'm in a real mess
[13:47] <atmosx> cumulus007: the test said it's okay
[13:48] <atmosx> cumulus007: I'm in the live environment right now
[13:48] <cumulus007> atmosx: is your RAM all right?
[13:48] <Dr_willis> RalphSpencer,  i mentioned the 'ntfsfix' command just a moment ago.
[13:48] <atmosx> cumulus007: how do I check this out?
[13:48] <cumulus007> atmosx: you can install it through the command line
[13:48] <cumulus007> atmosx: with memtest
[13:48] <atmosx> cumulus007: I think it's okay
[13:48] <RalphSpencer> Dr_willis: Could you please give the exact syntax?
[13:48] <atmosx> cumulus007: how do I install this via command line?
[13:49] <atmosx> I will change the keyboard options later
[13:49] <cumulus007> atmosx: by downloading the Alternate CD
[13:49] <atmosx> I can do that via command line also.
[13:49] <atmosx> oh
[13:49] <Kruxeer> Dr_willis, it doesn't work!
[13:49] <cumulus007> that contains the debian installer
[13:49] <atmosx> alternative CD
[13:49] <FloodBot2> atmosx: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:49] <Dr_willis> RalphSpencer,  install it.. and use 'ntfsfix --help' or 'man ntfsfix'
[13:49] <RalphSpencer> Oh ok.. Thanks
[13:49] <Dr_willis> RalphSpencer,  i imagine its sudo ntfsfix /dev/whateverdeviceyougot
[13:49] <paola> ciao a tutti
[13:50] <Kruxeer> Dr_willis, xterm Xt error: Can't open display: localhost:0.0
[13:50] <paola> questo x chat è come il mirc?
[13:50] <lissa> !list
[13:50] <brittos> can somebody help me in upgrading my Ubuntu to 7.10
[13:50] <magnetron> !it | paola
[13:50] <Dr_willis> Kruxeer,  yep. security stuff may be blocking it.
[13:50] <magnetron> brittos→ what version of ubuntu are you using?
[13:51] <Dr_willis> Kruxeer,  try 'xhost +'  then the xterm & command..
[13:51] <uptoome> can someone recommend a sound card for use in a dell sc440 server?
[13:51] <Dr_willis> Kruxeer,  xhost + is a BAD security idea
[13:51] <ortsvorsteher> !upgrade | brittos
[13:51] <brittos> magnetron > hw to check tht
[13:51] <Kruxeer> Dr_willis, this error > "xhost:  unable to open display "localhost:0.0"
[13:51] <brittos>  uname -a
[13:51] <brittos> Linux bravo01 2.6.20-17-generic #2 SMP Wed Aug 20 16:47:34 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
[13:51] <magnetron> brittos→ you can usually see it if you click the "help" button
[13:51] <stormchas2000> goodmorning all
[13:52] <RalphSpencer> Says you should run chkdsk, but it is not available in LINUX..
[13:52] <brittos> I went via update manager
[13:52] <magnetron> brittos→ what version of ubuntu are you using?
[13:52] <Dr_willis> Kruxeer,  looks like it may be locked down good.. unless you can run that 'xhost +' on the X desktop somehow  then try friom the console
[13:52] <brittos> it was showing available options 7.10
[13:52] <magnetron> !enter | brittos
[13:52] <Dr_willis> RalphSpencer,  right.. ntfsfix is a LAST DITCH thing..  youi can have big dataloss with it.
[13:52] <brittos> k ubotto
[13:52] <RalphSpencer> Dr_willis: I got the following message:Mounting volume... Error opening partition device: Permission denied.
[13:52] <RalphSpencer> Failed to startup volume: Permission denied.
[13:52] <RalphSpencer> FAILED
[13:52] <RalphSpencer> Attempting to correct errors... Error opening partition device: Permission denied.
[13:52] <RalphSpencer> FAILED
[13:52] <RalphSpencer> Failed to startup volume: Permission denied.
[13:52] <FloodBot2> RalphSpencer: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:52] <tty0_avatar> hallo all
[13:52] <Dr_willis> RalphSpencer,  if you can some how get windows to fix it.. use windows.. or risk losing the data.
[13:53] <Mishoo95> um hey guy can someone help me out?
[13:53] <Dr_willis> RalphSpencer,  and   since its a 'system type' thing.. logically you think about it.. you NEED to use 'sudo' to get root access
[13:53] <brittos> Magnetron - I'm running update manager again
[13:53] <RalphSpencer> Thanks
[13:53] <RalphSpencer> I'll try
[13:53] <Kruxeer> Dr_willis, This error on X machine >"access control disabled, clients can connect from any host"
[13:53] <wue3736> RalphSpencer: say "thank you" to microsoft for not documenting ntfs...
[13:53] <brittos> Magnetron
[13:53] <magnetron> brittos→ i need you to answer the question about which version of ubuntu you are using
[13:54] <Dr_willis> Kruxeer,  thats not an error. its a warning :)
[13:54] <brittos> magnetron > please help me hw can I check tht, command please
[13:54] <Mishoo95> guys can someone help me out?
[13:54] <benovic> i need help with grub, i get error 17 (cant mount) on the first entry and error 13 (weirs exe?) on the second. ive read some stuff but still cant boot into my second linux os on the disc. see my grub lines here: http://pastebin.com/m7ced56ca thank you for your help!
[13:54] <ortsvorsteher> Mishoo95: with what?
[13:54] <Kruxeer> Dr_willis, still that error > "xterm Xt error: Can't open display: localhost:0.0"
[13:54] <Mishoo95> i just installed Ububtu by using Wubi
[13:54] <RalphSpencer> Dr_willis: Thank you so much! You've been so good and kind, thank you very much!
[13:55] <magnetron> brittos→ type "lsb_release -d" in a terminal
[13:55] <RalphSpencer> Thank you!
[13:55] <Mishoo95> but the thing is, ubuntu cant recoginze my wireless adapter
[13:55] <Mishoo95> (my pc doesnt have wireless)
[13:55] <hvgotcodes> hey i installed kubuntu and it messed up my X performance in gnome -- now every time i resize a window there is a one second lag.  How do i go back?
[13:55] <ortsvorsteher> !enter | Mishoo95
[13:56] <Mishoo95> so what do i do?
[13:56] <ortsvorsteher> Mishoo95: read the documantation for wireless, may you find there a solution?
[13:56] <ortsvorsteher> !wlan | Mishoo95
[13:56] <brittos> lsb_release -a > No LSB modules are available. Distributor ID: Ubuntu Description:    Ubuntu 7.04 Release:        7.04 Codename:       feisty
[13:56] <magnetron> brittos→ you are running ubuntu 7.04. Ubuntu 7.04 isn't supported anymore.
[13:56] <Dr_willis> Kruxeer,  im out of ideas then.. could be the order you are doing the stuff in.. or somtjhing. that is such a security issue. i wouild not be suprised if it wasent locked down
[13:57] <Mishoo95> oh and another thing, originaly i had to install a cd in order to use the adapter
[13:57] <brittos> update manager shows new distribution 7.10 available
[13:57] <Mishoo95> so do i have to use WINE to install the cd?
[13:57] <Kruxeer> Dr_willis, :-s
[13:57] <tty0_avatar> !seen
[13:57] <magnetron> brittos→ we can't help you with the outdated unsupported Ubuntu 7.10.
[13:58] <Dr_willis> Kruxeer,  try xhost +localhost
[13:58] <brittos> :(
[13:58] <brittos> The system was unable to get the prerequisites for the upgrade. The upgrade will abort now and restore the original system state. Please report this as a bug against the 'update-manager' package and include the files in /var/log/dist-upgrade/ in the bugreport.
[13:58] <ortsvorsteher> Mishoo95: it is not easy to follow you when you use enter.... the drivers for your wlan adapter will be installed automatically, also if you must use ndiswrapper
[13:58] <n8tuserf> magnetron-> since when was 7.10 became unsupported?
[13:58] <Dr_willis> Kruxeer,  cant get it to do it here either.. been ages since i last tried
[13:59] <Mishoo95> ndiawarpper?
[13:59] <ortsvorsteher> !who | Mishoo95
[13:59] <hallow> hi
[13:59] <ortsvorsteher> Mishoo95: if there is no driver for your card in ubuntu, may ndiswrapper for using windows drivers will be used.
[14:00] <ortsvorsteher> !pm | Mishoo95
[14:00] <hvgotcodes> in the software sources program what does enabling the intrepid backports clickbox do?
[14:00] <Dr_willis> !backports
[14:00] <Dr_willis> hvgotcodes,  enables the backports repository
[14:01] <hvgotcodes> Dr_willis: is it a backport from jaunty to intrepid?
[14:01] <ortsvorsteher> !ndiswrapper | Mishoo95
[14:01] <n8tuserf> hvgotcodes-> jaunty is not ready yet, please visit #ubuntu+1
[14:02] <Dr_willis> hvgotcodes,  no idea.. could be in some cases I guess. but not always
[14:02] <hvgotcodes> Dr_willis i think that is what has messed up X for me
[14:02] <Dr_willis> hvgotcodes,  'updated unofficial, but desireable packages' is how i think of it.
[14:02] <pROCKrammer[eats> hi, people
[14:03] <hvgotcodes> how do i go back?  I unchecked the backports repo
[14:03] <hvgotcodes> but don't know where to go from there
[14:03] <pROCKrammer[eats> I have problem, how to open 7z archives ??? what appliucation?
[14:03] <n8tuserf> hvgotcodes-> jaunty is not ready yet, please visit #ubuntu+1 ..we dont support jaunt yet
[14:03] <Dr_willis> !7z
[14:03] <hvgotcodes> n8tuserf -- i am not using jaunty
[14:03] <pROCKrammer[eats> ubottu: it does not
[14:04] <n8tuserf> hvgotcodes-> then why mention jaunty?
[14:04] <elmnas> hi guys can someone help me to install a wireless network card, I have drivers on a cd
[14:04] <jrib> pROCKrammer[eats: click on the link he gave you
[14:04] <Dr_willis> backport items are NOT always from jaunty to  the earlier ones.. from what i gather.
[14:04] <n8tuserf> elmnas-> is it pl;ugged in?
[14:04] <hvgotcodes> n8tuserf, because to install kde, some instructions had me check that repo.  now everytime i resize a window i get a one second lag and processor spike.  i want to get my normal ubuntu 8.10 working
[14:04] <hvgotcodes> again
[14:05] <Dr_willis> hvgotcodes,  in KDE or gnome its laggy?
[14:05] <hvgotcodes> gnome
[14:06] <hvgotcodes> i removed the kubuntu repo too and removed the kde packages
[14:06] <hvgotcodes> i wanted to remove all orphaned packages but it said it was going to remove grep, so i didn't do that
[14:06] <oneone1> ciao
[14:06] <hvgotcodes> i dont know why it is confused
[14:07] <elmnas> hi can someone help me to install network drivers?
[14:07] <Dr_willis> hvgotcodes,  yiou can always reinstall grep i imagine
[14:07] <n8tuserf> elmnas-> is your wifi card plugged in?
[14:07] <hvgotcodes> Dr_willis yes, but synaptic was throwing all sorts of warnings
[14:07] <makeitfunky> how can i know the cersion of a module?
[14:08] <Dr_willis> hvgotcodes,  yep. that can happen when you start adding.remioveing repos and stuff. and why backports is considerd optional/unsupported.
[14:08] <hvgotcodes> Dr_willis, yeah but i would think that removing the repo, then deleting orphaned packages should be smooth
[14:08] <n8tuserf> elmnas -> is your wifi card plugged in?
[14:08] <elmnas> yeah its a usb card awus036h
[14:09] <hvgotcodes> Dr_willis, when it was installing kde I saw it pulling in Xorg packages -- which is what i think my problem is
[14:09] <makeitfunky> how can i know the version of a module? e.g alsa compiled or alsa reinstalled with sinaptic
[14:09] <Broken|Arrow> hi every one ?
[14:09] <Dr_willis> hvgotcodes,  could be its using some older/veasa/whatever drivers instad of the ones you need for your system.
[14:09] <dr_phd1> Everyone, is Super Ubuntu better than Ubuntu?
[14:09] <n8tuserf> elmnas -> i have not much luck with usb dongle wifi, but lets give it a shot
[14:10] <ortsvorsteher> !ot | dr_phd1
[14:10] <elmnas> ok ok
[14:10] <elmnas> n8userf I have drivers on a cd
[14:10] <Broken|Arrow> is it possible to get nautilus tabs in ubuntu 8.04  ?
[14:11] <jrib> Broken|Arrow: if you want newer software, it's easier to just upgrade to 8.10
[14:11] <dr_phd1> Everyone, is Super Ubuntu better than Ubuntu?
[14:11] <ortsvorsteher> !ot | dr_phd1
[14:11] <n8tuserf> elmnas -> sudo lshw -C network  and post the results
[14:11] <Dr_willis> dr_phd1,  i doubt it.
[14:11] <elmnas> linux driversok
[14:11] <hvgotcodes> Dr_willis so how do i verify the versions and all that to get this thing working again?
[14:11] <Dr_willis> dr_phd1,  i dont recomend any of the unofficial ubuntu variants
[14:12] <Dr_willis> hvgotcodes,   not sure. You could try reinstalling your video card drivers i guess. Ive rarely had issues remioving things.. i rarely remove things.
[14:12] <elmnas> http://pastebin.com/m642e0562
[14:12] <n8tuserf> dr_phd1 -> my super duper is better than that, I customized it myself.. :P
[14:12] <stormchas2000> dr_phd1   i have never heard of that version.   i would be careful with it
[14:12] <Broken|Arrow> jrib: I prefer LTS, I was just asking if it's possible, a quick google search brought only a source compile , which I am not really interested in
[14:12] <hvgotcodes> well which version of X do you have?
[14:12]  * Dr_willis has Uber-Super-Duper-Home-Ultimate-Premium-Lite-extreme-ubuntu
[14:12] <jrib> Broken|Arrow: can I ask why you prefer LTS?
[14:12] <hvgotcodes> and how do i tell from command line
[14:12] <Dr_willis> hvgotcodes,  X -version perhaps
[14:13] <stormchas2000> Dr_willis can you say that 10 times real fast
[14:13] <hvgotcodes> 2:1.5.2-2ubuntu3.00~ppa1 is that the current one?
[14:14] <Dr_willis> hvgotcodes,  somthing from 'ppa' would be very unofficial i think
[14:14] <Broken|Arrow> jrgp: longer support , I run few servers on it and I like to have the same setup , tweaked it a lot and an upgrade will probably break something, more stable (personal opinion)
[14:14] <hvgotcodes> Dr_willis so should i just reinstall xorg-server again?
[14:15] <Dr_willis> hvgotcodes,  could try i guess.   thats all we are doing here is guessing basically.
[14:15] <n8tuserf> elmnas -> what is the name of your driver on cdrom?
[14:15] <elmnas> rtl8187_linux_26.1025.0328.2007
[14:15] <jrib> Broken|Arrow: fair enough.   Personally, I'd just upgrade the desktop and leave the servers on LTS.  I don't think there is a "nice" way for you to upgrade just nautilus and stay with 8.04
[14:16] <dr_phd1> where is this GMplayer for ubuntu anyway?
[14:16] <jrib> dr_phd1: in the "mplayer" package
[14:16] <hvgotcodes> Dr_willis, yeah what  i really wanted to do was somehow tell synaptic to go back to the latest supported packages across the board
[14:16] <hvgotcodes> instead of one package at a time
[14:16] <n8tuserf> !who | elmnas
[14:16] <elmnas> ok ok
[14:16] <Cube3D> !tab
[14:17] <Broken|Arrow> jrgp: ok, I will consider it, thanks for the help :)
[14:17] <jrib> hvgotcodes: backports reversion attemp?
[14:17] <jrib> t
[14:17] <hvgotcodes> jrib -- kde uninstall attempt
[14:18] <jrib> hvgotcodes: you've seen !puregnome?
[14:18] <hvgotcodes> jrib: the instructions had me enable a backports repo and now x lags whenever i resize a window
[14:18] <elmnas> n8userf rtl8187_linux_26.1025.0328.2007
[14:18] <n8tuserf> hvgotcodes -> did you use aptitude ?
[14:18] <hvgotcodes> hvgotcodes: i used synaptic
[14:18] <hvgotcodes> ha
[14:18] <jrib> hvgotcodes: be more specific than "a backports repo"
[14:18] <hvgotcodes> i mean n8tuserf i used synaptic
[14:19] <hvgotcodes> jrib: the backports checkbox on the third tab of the synaptic-sources program
[14:19] <pawel> whan I am playing fullscreen game it is ok for about 5 min but after it switch to normal window and hangs whole computer - how to fix it?
[14:19] <Cube3D> pawel: disable compiz or screensaver
[14:19] <pawel> how?
[14:20] <Cyrano_De> I am running 8.10 on two machines with ATI cards.  Gnome never remembers my multimonitor settings and I always have to go into the ati controll panel to set this.
[14:20] <PoetOfShadows> pawel: in appearances settings, change desktop effects to none; that will disable compiz
[14:20] <elmnas> n8tuserf ---> tl8187_linux_26.1025.0328.2007
[14:20] <elmnas> opps I mean --> rtl8187_linux_26.1025.0328.2007
[14:20] <Cyrano_De> Xfce, fluxbox and lxde do not display this behavoir.
[14:20] <bentu> #emacs
[14:21] <pawel> and how to disable screensaver?
[14:21] <jrib> hvgotcodes: backports really shouldn't cause a problem
[14:21] <n8tuserf> elmnas -> you may have to expand it, and look for .inf and .sys  i believe
[14:21] <hvgotcodes> jrib: i removed the kubuntu repo, removed the backports checkbox, and then tried to delete orphaned package but aborted when synaptic said it would remove grep
[14:21] <Cyrano_De> One machine is a laptop with an old rv250 or 300 chip in it.  The other is my workstation with an 4850 installed.
[14:21] <hvgotcodes> jrib: how do i diagnose my gnome issue then...
[14:21] <elmnas> well can you remote me or something I gonna never fix this im dyslexier.. :S
[14:21] <n8tuserf> elmnas -> and then you do something like ndiswrapper -i bcmwl5a.inf
[14:21] <pawel> how to disable screensaver?
[14:22] <Cube3D> pawel: compiz or screensaver, only one;)
[14:22] <pawel>  prefer compiz xD
[14:22] <pawel> *I prefer
[14:22] <pawel> and want to keep compiz but disable screensaver
[14:23] <pawel> will it be ok?
[14:23] <Cube3D> pawel: yes:)
[14:23] <pawel> how to?
[14:23] <Cube3D> but I prefer disable compiz
[14:23] <jrib> hvgotcodes: you can list all the backports stuff you have installed with « aptitude search '~Aintrepid-backports~i' ».  What there do you think would affect X/gnome?
[14:23] <PoetOfShadows> pawel: there might be a choice in the settings menu to do it
[14:23] <stormchas2000> pawel  i know for me to play many games i have to disable the compiz
[14:24] <pawel> thanks :)
[14:24] <pawel> is there emubuntu?
[14:24] <Dr_willis> pawel,  for managing your Emu Farm?
[14:24] <snones> ciao
[14:24] <snones> halo
[14:24] <pawel> i've heard about emdebian
[14:24] <bazhang> pawel, no
[14:24] <snones> !list
[14:25] <Cyrano_De> Anyone know how to get gnome to "remember" the multidisplay settings?
[14:25] <pawel> in what ubuntu differs from debian?
[14:25] <Dr_willis> !debian | pawel
[14:25] <MidasManchu> Cyrano_De, are you using Nvidia drivers?
[14:25] <Cyrano_De> MidasManchu: ATI
[14:25] <Cyrano_De> One machine is a laptop with an old rv250 or 300 chip in it.  The other is my workstation with an 4850 installed.
[14:26] <alper> xchat
[14:27] <pawel> when I execute comand1|command2|command3 are they queued or executed in the same time?
[14:27] <MidasManchu> Cyrano_De, I can't speak too much on ATI as I run Nvidia over here, but I had the same issue with nvidia.  Just make sure that whatever changes you make are saved in your config file.  I don't know if you're accessing the display settings through an editor (as with Nvidia), but if you are, make sure you run it with sudo
[14:27] <PoetOfShadows> pawel: command1 "gives" it's output to command2, which uses that as input;
[14:28] <chazco> Hi... i'm about to install 7.10 (for wifi)... will packages from 8.10 install onto this (if the repos are added)?
[14:28] <PoetOfShadows> pawel: if you want to que them, use && in between
[14:28] <PoetOfShadows> chazco: no, they will not
[14:28] <pawel> how to execute them in the same time?
[14:28] <chazco> Ah... not even the standalone debs/PPAs?
[14:28] <Cyrano_De> MidasManchu: I am making the change through the ATI catalyst control center.  It does not seem to matter whether or not I run it as root.
[14:28] <PoetOfShadows> chazco: those will, but not anything from the 8.10 repos
[14:28] <jrib> chazco: why don't you use 8.10?
[14:28] <chazco> Ah, well thats something at least
[14:29] <PoetOfShadows> pawel: I'm not sure what you mean by at the same time…?
[14:29] <chazco> jrib - 8.10 has broken WPA Enterprise for my card, rendering it effectively useless on the netbook
[14:29] <jrib> chazco: same for 8.04?
[14:29] <chazco> jrib - Think so, last version i recall working was 7.10
[14:29] <MidasManchu> Cyrano_De, have you checked to see if your changes are propogating to X's config?
[14:29] <sylvain_> bonjour!
[14:30] <PoetOfShadows> !hi | sylvain_
[14:30] <jrib> chazco: 7.10 is going to lose support next month, so I would try 8.04 and see if it works.  Did you check bugs.ubuntu.com?  I find it odd that such a bug would persist between 2 releases
[14:30] <chazco> jrib - Think its this bug - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/272185
[14:30] <sylvain_> j'ai un probleme avec ubuntu
[14:30] <jrib> !fr | sylvain_
[14:30] <Cyrano_De> MidasManchu: As it is now using randr for setting display there are no longer any modelines in the xorg.conf file.
[14:30] <hvgotcodes> jrib: sorry cable guys were here -- i did not use aptitude to install kde
[14:31] <jrib> hvgotcodes: I didn't ask about aptitude
[14:31] <fran20> hello
[14:31] <PoetOfShadows> !hi | fran20
[14:31] <Cyrano_De> MidasManchu: Xfce, fluxbox and lxde all work just fine and spread my desktop properly over the two displays.
[14:31] <hvgotcodes> jrib: the command you gave me had aptitude
[14:31] <david_> hola
[14:31] <jrib> hvgotcodes: that's fine.  They all use the same db
[14:31] <david_> alguien español¿
[14:31] <jrib> !es | david_
[14:31] <fran20> yo davisd
[14:31] <hvgotcodes> jrib:  no results from that search
[14:31] <chazco> jrib - I'll give 8.04 a try just in case though
[14:31] <fran20> david yo se español
[14:31] <Cyrano_De> MidasManchu: Only Gnome seems to be too brain dead to figure out that I asked it to run in
[14:32] <Cyrano_De> MidasManchu: "Big Desktop" mode after a reboot.
[14:32] <jrib> chazco: it's marked fix released, so at least 9.04 should work once its out
[14:32] <chazco> jrib - But the comments further down say otherwise...
[14:32] <jrib> hvgotcodes: erm, you may need to enable backports again
[14:32] <hvgotcodes> jrib: my X version is xorg-server 2:1.5.2-2ubuntu3.00~ppa1
[14:32] <jrib> chazco: ah
[14:33] <jrib> hvgotcodes: then you have some ppa enabled other than backports
[14:33] <MidasManchu> Cyrano_De, Interesting.  Unfortunately I can't say I would know the root of that problem.  With luck, someone else will chime in with their thoughts.
[14:33] <hvgotcodes> jrib: probably the kubuntu one, which i removed
[14:34] <pawel> PoetOfShadows: simultaneously (sorry I needed dictionary xD)
[14:34] <manuel> hi
[14:34] <sorny> hiho
[14:34] <PoetOfShadows> pawel: as in run them all at the same time, with no interaction in between programs?
[14:34] <PoetOfShadows> !hi | manuel
[14:34] <Cyrano_De> MidasManchu: Luck seems to be lacking on my part.  Thanks for the thoughts anyway.
[14:34] <PoetOfShadows> !hi | sorny
[14:35] <manuel> how can i get a list of my installed packages in order of their seize from huge to small?
[14:35] <Dreamglider-> Good day
[14:35] <manuel> thanks
[14:36] <jrib> hvgotcodes: this is the sort of thing I've done in the past to downgrade all packages from -backports (as you noticed -backports has to be enabled for the search to work): « sudo apt-get install $(for package in $(aptitude -F '%p' search '~Aintrepid-backports~i!~U'); do echo -n ${package}'/intrepid ' ; done) »  Modify the command accordingly.  google "aptitude user manual" for a reference about aptitude
[14:36] <pawel> PoetOfShadows: yes, in one terminal
[14:36] <jrib> if you want
[14:36] <hellhound_> i am trying to open a website (bodybugg program under http://my.apexfitness.com) but it just hangs.  I have also tried loading firefox under wine and installing java jre in wine but it still hangs... the site works fine in windows and the site says it is also MAC compatible
[14:36] <PoetOfShadows> pawel: you're best bet would be to run them one at a time, by putting && in between each command
[14:37] <Shizuo> I don't like logged channels
[14:37] <Cyrano_De> manuel: dpkg-query --show --showformat='${Package;-50}\t${Installed-Size}\n' | sort -k 2 -n
[14:37] <hvgotcodes> jrib: using synaptic and looking at local or obsolete files i see xorg-server and anakondai
[14:37] <sorny> i need help :/ when i want to start the oracle express database, i get this warning: Operation failed, user ist not a member of the group "dba"
[14:37] <fran20> asias
[14:37] <Shizuo> Asia Carrera
[14:37] <manuel> thx
[14:37] <PoetOfShadows> sorny: add yourself to the group dba
[14:37] <pawel> isn't there any command? I need to nrun them simulatenously.
[14:37] <Myrtti> !es | fran20
[14:37] <sorny> PoetOfShadows:  i did, but then just nothing happens :/
[14:38] <leandro> hi
[14:38] <PoetOfShadows> pawel: not really… you could try just running multiple tabs in the Xterminal
[14:38] <hvgotcodes> jrib: so i think if i can restore my xorg-server to whatever version is default for 8.10 ill be good
[14:38] <Shizuo> Hi
[14:38] <hvgotcodes> but how do i do that?
[14:38] <PoetOfShadows> sorny: did you log out/log back in?
[14:38] <jrib> hvgotcodes: sudo apt-get intall xserver-xorg/intrepid
[14:38] <hgfdsa> hey, i need some help. i don't understand much about computers and i changed to ubuntu hardy recently. i changed my home directory name on the preferences/users option. now i can't log in. what can i do?
[14:38] <PoetOfShadows> !hi | Shizuo
[14:38] <pippo_> !hi
[14:38] <sorny> PoetOfShadows:  i have to when i change the group?
[14:38] <jrib> hvgotcodes: or whatever package
[14:38] <leandro> i need help
[14:39] <PoetOfShadows> sorny: yes, you do…
[14:39] <Myrtti> !ask | leandro
[14:39] <Dreamglider-> leandro, ask the question :)
[14:39] <sorny> PoetOfShadows: oh, k i ll try it :D
[14:39] <atmosx> uff
[14:39] <hvgotcodes> jrib: im sorry its xorg-server-core -- does that change teh command you just sent me?
[14:39] <atmosx> finally I've got this working
[14:39] <ILoveXP> !ask > leandro
[14:39] <jrib> hvgotcodes: in the command I gave you, the package name was "xserver-xorg"
[14:39] <hvgotcodes> yes
[14:40] <hvgotcodes> the package synaptic gave me is xorg-server-core
[14:40] <hvgotcodes> still xorg-server?
[14:40] <jrib> hvgotcodes: as you wish
[14:40] <Cyrano_De> hgfdsa: Press "alt-f1" to get to the console.  Log in there.
[14:40] <hgfdsa> it's not working. i have ubuntu studio, maybe that's related
[14:40] <Cyrano_De> hgfdsa: It should warn you that it could not find your home directory.
[14:40] <hvgotcodes> the package synaptic gave me is xorg-server-core-
[14:40] <PoetOfShadows> Cyrano_De: the command to get to the console is Ctrl-Alt-F1
[14:40] <leandro> i need to do proxy
[14:40] <pawel> PoetOfShadows: I need to run bout 100 programs in text mode simualteunsly (by python script)
[14:41] <hgfdsa> Cyrano: yes it did
[14:41] <fabius11> !menu
[14:41] <fabius11> !ubuntu
[14:41] <jrib> hvgotcodes: go ahead, just read what apt is going to do before agreeing to proceed...
[14:41] <sluimers> hey there, can someone help me with an apple keyboard, I want to type " witout the use of the spacebar..
[14:42] <fabius11> !download
[14:42] <PoetOfShadows> pawel: sorry, but I don't really know how to do that… the best way I could think of to do that is to just put && in between commands
[14:42] <hvgotcodes> jrib: i ran that command you gave me and i get The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
[14:42] <Cyrano_De> hgfdsa: What did you change it to?
[14:42] <sorny> PoetOfShadows: i added my username to dba:x:1001:   now it looks dba:x:1001:username @ /etc/group thatz right?
[14:42] <hvgotcodes> jrib: and a long list of packages
[14:42] <unmonkey> Hi. I've got a fresh install of 8.10. anyone gimme a list of the basic "new install stuff"? I mean things like adding repositories, setting up wireless, anything like that
[14:42] <PoetOfShadows> sorny: I believe so
[14:42] <hvgotcodes> it also says xserver-xorg is already the newest version.
[14:42] <sorny> :D
[14:42] <hgfdsa> Cyrano : my name
[14:43] <pawel> thanks for help... bye!
[14:43] <jrib> hvgotcodes: pastebin (command and output)
[14:43] <hvgotcodes> jrib: i just ran autoremove
[14:43] <Cyrano_De> hgfdsa: You should be able to "cd /home" then "mv oldhomename newhomename"
[14:43] <PoetOfShadows> bye!
[14:44] <hgfdsa> Cyrano: where do i do that?
[14:44] <jrib> hvgotcodes: you are confusing me
[14:44] <Cyrano_De> from the console.
[14:44] <hvgotcodes> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/128323/
[14:44] <Dreamglider-> is there a way i can tie the volume buttons on my laptop to the PCM slider instead of the master slider in ALSA mixer?
[14:44] <hgfdsa> Cyrano: but i can't get to the console
[14:44] <jrib> hvgotcodes: ok
[14:45] <Cyrano_De> hgfdsa: Did you by chance change the root password?
[14:45] <hgfdsa> Cyrano : idk :S
[14:46] <hvgotcodes> jrib: after all that there are more packages in the local/obsolete category in synaptic -- i think this means they are installed by not in my repos
[14:46] <fran20> wenas
[14:46] <hvgotcodes> jrib: these packages include the xorg ones and gnome apps like brasero
[14:46] <Cyrano_De> hgfdsa: Otherwise you can boot from a livecd and either rename "/home/oldhome" or change your home back in your passwd file.
[14:46] <PoetOfShadows> sorny: did it work?
[14:46] <sorny> PoetOfShadows: again, just nothin happens :(
[14:46] <PoetOfShadows> sorny: same message?
[14:46] <Cyrano_De> hgfdsa: If you changed the root password you can login as root on the console.
[14:46] <sorny> just NO message :/
[14:47] <Cyrano_De> hgfdsa: Then run the mv command to move your old home to the new one.
[14:47] <PoetOfShadows> sorny: did you try running from the terminal?
[14:47] <sorny> yep, the same
[14:47] <hgfdsa> Cyrano: but how can i get to the console?
[14:47] <sorny> no error, but no positive feedback too...
[14:47] <PoetOfShadows> sorny: that either means that it worked, or it is broken; try re-installing it
[14:47] <Cyrano_De> hgfdsa: "ctl-alt-f1"
[14:47] <sorny> i ll re install it :/
[14:50] <hgfdsa> Cyrano: I'm on the console but i can't log in
[14:50] <PoetOfShadows> hgfdsa: what's the error you get?
[14:50] <orgthingy> hello, firefox says "backend /usr/lib/cups/backed/hp does not exist!" even though ive used deskjet_f300 printer many many times
[14:50] <jrib> hvgotcodes: ok.  Like I said, you probably want to use a command similar to the one I've used in the past for -backports
[14:50] <hgfdsa> Cyrano: login incorrect
[14:51] <sorny> PoetOfShadows: k reinstalled, still the same problem :/
[14:51] <Cyrano_De> hgfdsa: You put in your login and password?
[14:51] <sorny> i cant even get to the admin page @ 127.0.0.1/apex
[14:51] <orgthingy> !printer > orgthingy
[14:52] <hvgotcodes> jrib: how come i can't just delete the orphaned packages?  i mean it wants to delete things like grep, gimp, etc.  it isn't smart enough to revert the versions?  also, i lost your command, can you resend it?
[14:52] <PoetOfShadows> sorny: still no error message at all?
[14:52] <sorny> yep
[14:52] <psych> i'm experiencing kernel problems after upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10
[14:52] <psych> how can i fix that?
[14:52] <sorny> but i found a tutorial, i ll do it this way :/
[14:52] <PoetOfShadows> sorny: sounds good
[14:52] <hunt577> Does anyone have any recommendations on the best type of laptop computer to run ubuntu on?
[14:52] <PoetOfShadows> psych: what do you mean by kernel problems?
[14:52] <jrib> hvgotcodes: I don't see how deleting orphaned packages would help downgrade xorg
[14:52] <racecar56> hello everyone, i have a really really weird glitch that when i boot off ubuntu live CD/install from it
[14:53] <jrib> hvgotcodes: this is the sort of thing I've done in the past to downgrade all packages from -backports (as you noticed -backports has to be enabled for the search to work): « sudo apt-get install $(for package in $(aptitude -F '%p' search '~Aintrepid-backports~i!~U'); do echo -n ${package}'/intrepid ' ; done) »  Modify the command accordingly.  google "aptitude user manual" for a reference about aptitude
[14:53] <sorny> but first, i need to deinstall :D
[14:53] <jrib> if you want
[14:53] <hgfdsa> Cyrano: yeah, i tried different combinations and nothing worked. i tried my old login, my new login :S
[14:53] <racecar56> and then it makes my monitor go NUTS
[14:53] <Varan> When i run apt-get in get this error: apt-get: error while loading shared libraries: /usr/lib/libapt-pkg-libc6.8-6.so.4.6: unexpected reloc type 0x12000001.
[14:53] <psych> PoetOfShadows, my actual kernel doesnt work properly
[14:53] <hvgotcodes> jrib: the other wierd thing is that apt-get tells me xorg is current but synaptic says its is local/obsolete
[14:53] <PoetOfShadows> psych: how so?
[14:53] <psych> i cant instal proprietary modules PoetOfShadows
[14:53] <psych> not even step back to an older version
[14:53] <psych> things like that
[14:53] <Varan> Does anyone know how this could be caused and how to solve it?
[14:53] <Cyrano_De> hgfdsa: Sounds like more than just your home directory having changed if you cannot logon at the console.
[14:54] <mrwes> I have Ubuntu 8.04 Desktop running and I'd like to change that to 8.04 Server Edition, I a separate partition for /home formated ext3. Does the server edition use a /home partition too?
[14:54] <PoetOfShadows> psych: hmmm, did you try googling around for the problem?
[14:54] <jrib> hvgotcodes: because you've removed the repository they came from
[14:54] <racecar56> if you are trying to chat to me but i am not replying then just say my username
[14:54] <hvgotcodes> jrib: that command has hi FAIL potential
[14:54] <hvgotcodes> ;)
[14:54] <jrib> hvgotcodes: what command?
[14:54] <avelinog> buenas tardes a todos desde españa
[14:55] <mrwes> !es
[14:55] <avelinog> alguno me echa una mano con el vmware
[14:55] <hgfdsa>  Cyrano: I changed my home directory, a password on that user menu and my real name
[14:55] <PoetOfShadows> !es | avelinog
[14:55] <hvgotcodes> jrib: that reinstall one
[14:55] <ILoveXP> racecar56:
[14:55] <hvgotcodes> anyway the search that lists the packages is empty
[14:55] <jrib> hvgotcodes: what reinstall one...
[14:56] <chamuscas> i'm having troubles downloading packages wit synaptic application
[14:56] <hvgotcodes> jrib:  the one you just send me man!
[14:56] <PoetOfShadows> chamuscas: what's the problem?
[14:56] <hunt577> Ubuntu on a lap top - recommendations?
[14:56] <mrwes> How big of a root / do I need for the server edition?
[14:56] <psych> PoetOfShadows, if i download the kernel source and compile it
[14:56] <hvgotcodes> hunt577: not a studio xps 16
[14:56] <psych> PoetOfShadows, i will have the modules and etc
[14:56] <psych> right?
[14:56] <mrwes> !server
[14:56] <chamuscas> PoerOfShadows, i try to download a package and the an error appears, let me see what it is
[14:57] <PoetOfShadows> psych: I believe so
[14:57] <jrib> hvgotcodes: I haven't given you any command to run.  I gave you one to modify
[14:57] <hunt577> hvgotcodes : Ok won't get that one then, any recommendations of which laptop it will work properly on?  I have an HP G60 and even with all the tweaking it still lags a bit
[14:57] <racecar56> i have a really really weird glitch that when i boot off ubuntu live CD/install from it and then it makes my monitor go NUTS, it displays weird but it seems no other cd has done this, the integrity is OK and i got the disks from last november, i free-requested them.
[14:58] <hvgotcodes> jrib: ah i see
[14:58] <PoetOfShadows> racecar56: what exactly are you trying to do with the live cd?
[14:58] <Lartza_> Does fglrx work in ubuntu?
[14:58] <chamuscas> PoetOfShadows, it something like this, when i start downloading a message appears, "some package weren't able to be download from the server, do you wish to continue" that i say yes
[14:58] <hvgotcodes> hunt577: ubuntu worked well on that dell latitude e series
[14:58] <hvgotcodes> Lartza_:  not as well as nvidia
[14:58] <Lartza_> I know that...
[14:58] <PoetOfShadows> chamuscas: and then what?
[14:59] <hunt577> hvgotcodes : Thank you, I may try that.  It seems maybe ubuntu doesn't work as well with computers that have high end graphics cards like nvidia.  Maybe I'm wrong though.
[14:59] <Lartza_> I assume I can't use nvidia driver for ati chipset...
[14:59] <chazco> jrib - I'm downloading 8.04.2 now... if it doesnt work would I best off going with 7.10 or an alpha of 9.04 in your opinion? Thanks :)
[14:59] <racecar56> i think 8.10 pwns
[14:59] <chamuscas> PoetOfshadows, everything is fine but on the bare end a message appears saying that it wasn't able to download the archives from this place "http://pt.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/k/kde4libs/kdelibs5-data_4.1.4-0ubuntu1~intrepid1_all.deb
[14:59] <chamuscas>   404 Not Found"
[14:59] <hvgotcodes> hunt577: i had a latitude e and it ran perfectly
[14:59] <starykomputer> hi
[14:59] <ILoveXP> hunt577: My compaq V6000 series runs ubuntu great
[14:59] <PoetOfShadows> chamuscas: did you add that repository?
[15:00] <starykomputer> can someone tell me how to fix ALT key in NX Free?
[15:00] <chamuscas> PoetOfShadows, well i guess not can you help me
[15:00] <hunt577> hvgotcodes : Cool, may look into one of those.  Thanks ILoveXP, I will look into that one as well
[15:00] <PoetOfShadows> chamuscas: if you follow that link, you can see that that it doesn't exist
[15:01] <hgfdsa> Cyrano: ?
[15:01] <PoetOfShadows> chamuscas: see if you added the repository that points there…
[15:01] <chamuscas> PoetOfShadows, yeh something i didn't try at first, so what do you recommend, changins repository ??
[15:02] <racecar56> chamuscas that link seems broken O_o
[15:02] <PoetOfShadows> chamuscas: I would recommmend unchecking the repository in the synaptic sources, and trying whatever you were trying to do again
[15:02] <PoetOfShadows> chamuscas: or comment it out in /etc/apt/sources.list
[15:02] <chamuscas> PoetOfShadows, ok tank you
[15:02] <PoetOfShadows> chamuscas: no problem, I'm here to help
[15:03] <chamuscas> racecar56, yeh you right. I have changed it to the main repository, i was downloading from portuguese repository
[15:03] <chamuscas> PoetOfShadows, tank you :)
[15:03] <PoetOfShadows> chamuscas: that could have been your problem…
[15:03] <racecar56> i have a really really weird glitch that when i boot off ubuntu live CD/install from it and then it makes my monitor go NUTS, it displays weird but it seems no other cd has done this, the integrity is OK and i got the disks from last november, i free-requested them, does anyone know how to solve this annoying glitch?
[15:04] <PoetOfShadows> racecar56: what exactly are you trying to do from the disc?
[15:04] <racecar56> PoetOfShadows install to my hd, what else
[15:04] <racecar56> ;)
[15:04] <LSD200> what graphics card you got racecar56 ?
[15:04] <PoetOfShadows> racecar56: try using the alternate or minimal cd to install
[15:04] <chamuscas> PoetOfShadows, well maybe but one thing i know, i already have download some files from it so that's weird. but tank's anyway :)
[15:05] <PoetOfShadows> chamuscas: good luck solving that mystery
[15:05] <chamuscas> PoetOfShadows, tanks loooool :p
[15:05] <Anon1828> hi there, anyone here who can solve grub problems?
[15:05] <PoetOfShadows> Anon1828: what's your problem?
[15:05] <PoetOfShadows> !ask
[15:06] <Lartza_> Is fglrx working? I want compiz for example
[15:06] <racecar56> by the way my cd drive is a atapi dh16a1s
[15:07] <Anon1828> i have installed ubuntu on my 2. harddisk, when grub starts it hangs by loading stage 1.5
[15:07] <Varan> When I run apt-get in get this error: apt-get: error while loading shared libraries: /usr/lib/libapt-pkg-libc6.8-6.so.4.6: unexpected reloc type 0x12000001. Could someone help me with this. maybe md5sum his version or send it to me. Thanks.
[15:07] <racecar56> Varan ive had a similar problem
[15:07] <Anon1828> i even cant start ubuntu with supergrub
[15:07] <chamuscas> PoetOfShadows, Just for you to know maybe we are having some kind of problem with our server. The main repository is working well :)
[15:07] <Varan> racecar56, What caused it? becuase this came out of the blue for me
[15:08] <sogod> he
[15:08] <PoetOfShadows> chamuscas: ok, sounds good
[15:08] <hvgotcodes> jrib: reinstalling X did it
[15:09] <racecar56> Varan i think u should 'apt-file search libapt-pkg-libc6.8-6.so.4.6' and if that command returns anything then do  'rm /usr/lib/libapt-pkg-libc6.8-6.so.4.6' and 'sudo apt-get install <package>' where <package> means a package name that returned when you did the first command.
[15:09] <erUSUL> Varan: 32 bit or 64 bit ?
[15:09] <corigo3> Since latest updates from Repository (8.10) can't mount Audio discs on my system. Where is the sys log that I can check for more details?
[15:09] <ILoveXP> I am running an encrypted ubuntu install. When Jaunty comes out, will I be able to upgrade just like before when I wasn't running an encrypted install (I burned a CD then just installed over /, leaving /home alone) or will I have to just do a dist-upgrade?
[15:09] <Varan> erUSUL, 64 bit
[15:10] <erUSUL> Varan: sh1sum on my install gives → ec9396ca1ca3acc9ecdd026997ab18e2e9f56e22  /usr/lib/libapt-pkg-libc6.8-6.so.4.6
[15:11] <Varan> hmm
[15:11] <Varan> 7d61b08427ac1a3130c2ffa4701a9679e7a7dcaa  /usr/lib/libapt-pkg-libc6.8-6.so.4.6 :(
[15:11] <unmonkey> what's the package for the AMD specific kernel? is it linux-image-k7? apt-get says it doesn't know about that
[15:12] <johan12> for extracting tv-series i used 'find . -name *.r01 | xargs -n1 unrar x' but now i doesn't work :(
[15:12] <erUSUL> Varan: :( indeed
[15:12] <Varan> racecar56, I dont have apt-file
[15:12] <erUSUL> !generic | unmonkey
[15:12] <jrib> !doesn't work | johan12
[15:12] <Varan> erUSUL, I did skip a disk check
[15:12] <erUSUL> unmonkey: k7 kernels where abandoned long ago
[15:12] <zxd> with cdbs-edit-patch should I put raw patch data from running a diff command I dont understand what to put in there if i am editing an existing patch
[15:14] <unmonkey> neat. thanks guys
[15:15] <lo> hi, i tried to find my ac ryan alubox ethernet server on my network, with 8.10...  haow can i do that ... thx
[15:16] <johan12> jrib: http://pastebin.com/m2eb78d65
[15:16] <kovalski> bom dia. Há algum brasileiro por aqui
[15:17] <erUSUL> johan12: Filsystemet endast läsbart <<<< what does this mean?
[15:17] <erUSUL> !br | kovalski
[15:17] <johan12> erUSUL: swedish for: filesystem only readable
[15:17] <kovalski> obrigado
[15:17] <jrib> johan12: translate: #
[15:17] <jrib> johan12: translate: Filsystemet endast läsbart
[15:18] <ILoveXP> I am running an encrypted ubuntu install. When Jaunty comes out, will I be able to upgrade just like before when I wasn't running an encrypted install (I burned a CD then just installed over /, leaving /home alone) or will I have to just do a dist-upgrade?
[15:18] <johan12> jrib: Filesystem only readable
[15:18] <erUSUL> johan12: well that's the problem your filesystem got mounted read only so new files can not be created
[15:18] <kovalski> klih
[15:18] <erUSUL> johan12: what type of filesystem it is?
[15:18] <johan12> erUSUL: NTFS on a portable hdd
[15:19] <erUSUL> johan12: paste the output of "cat /proc/mounts"
[15:20] <Samo_> hallo
[15:21] <johan12> erUSUL: http://pastebin.com/m33eda6aa
[15:21] <vladuz976> how can I display the current size of a window when changing size?
[15:21] <sorny> PoetOfShadows: it worked :D
[15:22] <erUSUL> johan12: try "sudo mount -o rw,remount /dev/sdb1"
[15:22] <Samo_> i need little help
[15:23] <erUSUL> !ask
[15:23] <racecar56> i have a really really weird glitch that when i boot off ubuntu live CD/install from it and then it makes my monitor go NUTS, it displays weird but it seems no other cd has done this, the integrity is OK and i got the disks from last november, i free-requested them, does anyone know how to solve this annoying glitch?
[15:24] <voodoor> I installed intrepid onto a USB drive then I installed too many packages and now it won't boot, not even by adding 'single' at grub, as it says theres no space left on the device. How can I free some space?
[15:24] <johan12> erUSUL: same result as before
[15:24] <PoetOfShadows> racecar56: use the alternate or minimal CDs
[15:24] <racecar56> PoetOfShadows ok
[15:24] <erUSUL> johan12: is there something weird in "dmesg |tail"
[15:24] <erUSUL> ?
[15:25] <ILoveXP> voodoor: delete some stuff
[15:26] <racecar56> ok i am downloading the ubuntu alternate cd now
[15:26] <PoetOfShadows> racecar56: sounds good
[15:26] <voodoor> ILoveXP: All the room has been took up by packages but I can't boot into even a rescue/ single user mode to uninstall anything
[15:27] <ILoveXP> use a liveCD then mount the drive and clean things up
[15:27] <voodoor> ILoveXP: How? There isn't a / etc
[15:28] <racecar56> goodbye
[15:28] <voodoor> The squashfs file is only 600+MB big so I know my packages aren't stored in that
[15:28] <johan12> erUSUL: http://pastebin.com/m65980687
[15:28] <voodoor> I dunno where its stored them
[15:29] <voodoor> I downloaded a couple of gig of packages I'm sure
[15:30] <consoleart> any good books for linux administration
[15:30] <sorny> google.com :D
[15:31] <consoleart> any other :-))
[15:31] <Dr_willis> consoleart,  yahoo.com
[15:31] <voodoor> consoleart: LPI Linux certification in a nutshell - O'REilly
[15:32] <hollywoodb> consoleart: the o'reilly books are good.  the fedora/redhat unleashed books are good for fedora/redhat.  I don't know if ubuntu/debian has a similar book
[15:33] <consoleart> thnx woodoor / hollywoodb
[15:33] <consoleart> i am jst starting to learn on linux admin...so i am looking for some references
[15:33] <consoleart> is there any online tutorials available for these kind of things ?\
[15:34] <benovic> consoleart: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/
[15:34] <tjingboem> the cdrom on my old iBook is not detected. what can i do?
[15:34] <The-Compiler> Hi, I use GMail and Alpine, is there any way to display messages in a thread/conversation-like matter like the GMail web interface does?
[15:34] <tjingboem> so i cannot ubuntu
[15:35] <voodoor> tjingboem: Can you not get it to boot of CD ie USB CD drive?
[15:35] <voodoor> boot off USB, sorry
[15:36] <voodoor> tjingboem: Find out if you can make you ibook/ openfirmware boot off USB drives
[15:37] <tjingboem> voodoor, only booting from cdrom or harddisk is allowed in that time
[15:37] <tjingboem> it's an ibook from 2002
[15:37] <peaches__> since the change to HAL in Xorg, my multimedia keys on USB keyboard arent recognized, xev shows nothing, though they produce keycodes still at console with showkey.. how can i get them recognized in Xorg+HAL?
[15:37] <daaavid> #ubuntu-es
[15:38] <RPS> Hello Guys, I found out that the only way my new Asus laptop is going to dual boot Vista (ugh) and Ubuntu is if I change the bios settings from 'enhanced' to 'compatible' with my CD/DVD drive. Every time I tried it in its 'enhanced' mode the drive would lock up as soon as I tried to run anything from it, so the reason for me to change is documented and there's no need to dwell on that point. The question have is, will I lose very much pr
[15:38] <RPS> oductivity when I switch to the compatible mode? I will need to make the setting change and then reinstall Vista, so I'd rather ask questions before I make so many changes. I don;t think it will make that much difference, but I'd like to get some opinions.
[15:38] <frog_> hi, i wish to check the health of my hdd. what is a good program to do this?
[15:38] <danopia> hi
[15:38] <voodoor> frog_,: testdisk
[15:39] <daftykins> i know it's not an ubuntu question, but does anyone know what the 'key' variable of changing your password with NickServ is?
[15:39] <frog_> voodoor: thsnx, i'll hsve a look
[15:39] <erUSUL> frog_: smartctl can do SMART check if you want to check the filsystems use the fsck command
[15:39] <erUSUL> frog_: testdisk is for recovering lost partitions
[15:39] <johan12> erUSUL: any luck of figuring out what it can be?
[15:40] <erUSUL> daftykins: /msg NickServ help
[15:40] <frog_> erUSUL: hmm, i wanna check if it physically ok
[15:40] <daftykins> yeah the help doesn't help erUSUL
[15:40] <erUSUL> johan12: not really the thing i see on the demsg is that the disk got disconnected and connected again=
[15:41] <johan12> erUSUL: what can i do? reboot? :/
[15:41] <chris-p> is it possible to  burn a data disc project over multiple disks (I.E. I have 8.8GB data, and want to burn it over 2 DVDs) using ubuntu?
[15:41] <erUSUL> daftykins: how so; it list the commands and i can see a SETPASS there
[15:41] <daftykins> no, setpass has a variable
[15:42] <daftykins> type "/msg nickserv setpass" and it says it wants you to type 'key'
[15:42] <erUSUL> daftykins: and indeed a "help SETPASS" says  SETPASS allows you to set a new password
[15:42] <daftykins> i don't know what 'key' is
[15:42] <cousteau> is it a good idea to use XDM instead of GDM in order to make my PC boot faster?
[15:42] <B|ackPanther> Is there a way i can erase all the information in my HD using a live disk without having to start ubuntu ?
[15:42] <daftykins> erUSUL, if you read my question you'd realise what i'm actually asking
[15:42] <erUSUL> daftykins: To set a new password if you know the current password, use SET PASSWORD instead of SETPASS.
[15:43] <daftykins> "invalid command"
[15:43] <erUSUL> B|ackPanther: just format the hd from the livecd
[15:43] <rabbit_ubuntu> Hey guys
[15:43] <daftykins> oh wait
[15:44] <daftykins> thanks, done
[15:44] <rabbit_ubuntu> Whats been good?
[15:44] <B|ackPanther> erUSUL, i cannot get to that point so i want to clean the HD first,it get stuck in the installation or startup .
[15:44] <usser> cousteau, just get rid of *DM alltogether, theres nothing wrong with logging in from console
[15:45] <cousteau> and mannualy startx?
[15:45] <sky_> !Skype
[15:45] <chris-p> !Ekiga
[15:45] <usser> cousteau, you can put startx to your ~/profile
[15:45] <wesouler> Did anybody install Ubuntu 8.10 amd64 server on to IBM X3650? After reboot  there is a blinking cursor in the upper left side of the screen ...what's happen?
[15:45] <usser> cousteau, that way its going to run every time you login
[15:46] <sky_> chris-p: with ekiga i can speak with skype users ?
[15:46] <usser> cousteau, err ~/.profile
[15:46] <chris-p> sky_: no
[15:47] <sky_> hmm i need skype
[15:47] <chris-p> sky_: but it *is* free
[15:47] <chris-p> yeah
[15:47] <magnetron> sky_→ nobody can speak to skype users from the outside, it's a locked network
[15:47] <chris-p> install it, add the medibuntu repos
[15:47] <cousteau> usser: so I can remove all *DM's?
[15:47] <frog_> erUSUL: thank you smarttools seems to be what i wanted
[15:47] <sky_> ok
[15:47] <erUSUL> frog_: no problem
[15:47] <Dr_willis> cousteau,  i dobt if that will make the stuff boot that much faster
[15:47] <sky_> can i add repository via console ?
[15:47] <usser> cousteau, depends if you know how how to run manually what DM ran automatically
[15:48] <usser> cousteau, for gnome putting gnome-session in your ~/.xinitrc should have the same effect as running gnome from DM
[15:48] <erUSUL> sky_: yep
[15:48] <sky_> erUSUL: how ?
[15:48] <cousteau> I suppose I must login on the console and then run startx
[15:49] <erUSUL> sky_: create a new file named reponame.list in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ in that file put the deb .... line(s)
[15:49] <usser> cousteau, yea try it. remember whatever you put in ~/.xinitrc is going to start automatically when you run startx
[15:49] <oCean_> sky_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[15:50] <sorny> how can i check my jdk version?
[15:50] <erUSUL> sky_: e.g: echo "deb http://medibuntu.whatever ....etc" | sudo tee /etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list
[15:50] <sky_> thank you
[15:50] <usser> sorny, javac -version
[15:50] <erUSUL> sorny: apt-cache policy sun-java6-jdk
[15:51] <Stathis`> hey all
[15:53] <sorny> thanks usser & erUSUL
[15:53] <cousteau> and is it possible to automatically login when I boot the PC?
[15:55] <sky_> when will be Jaunty released ?
[15:55] <a3Dman> 27 april I think
[15:55] <Dr_willis> sky_,  every time someone asks that.. it gets pushed back a day.
[15:55] <Dr_willis> :)
[15:55] <a3Dman> lawl
[15:57] <cousteau> Dr_willis: remember Ubuntu 6.04, that ended up being 6.06
[15:57] <tpw_rules> tritium: any ideas about my acer?
[15:57] <bithidden> hi
[15:58] <magcius> Is there a way to tell rsync to not include the toplevel folder?
[15:58] <sky_> Will i need AVS ?
[16:00] <sorny> where can i find my rpm full pathname of my j2se installation
[16:00] <sorny> where can i find my full pathname of my j2se installation
[16:00] <rambo3> !find ms-sys
[16:00] <CharelB> Wie kann ich broken packages vom system entfernen?
[16:00] <CharelB> sorry .. wrong channel
[16:01] <daftykins> with a dual-display gnome setup, is there any way that i can create a new gnome panel and have the apps that i open on the secondary screen originate from that panel "taskbar" style instead of all coming from the primary screens one?
[16:04] <tpw_rules> i just upgraded to kernel 2.6.24-23 on my acer aspire one, along with a bunch of other updates, and now it continually spews error messages to the console. in recovery mode it panics because it tried to kill init
[16:04] <tpw_rules> it boots fine with other kernels
[16:05] <ckebabo> how can i set dual background? i set dual monitor using nvidia-setting, twinview. and it worked well. but when i set background image, image is positioned at middle of two monitor. i just want to view same image in each monitor.
[16:06] <psych> whats the name of that tip window that appears when you put the mouse pointer over a thing (icon, systray icon, program, etc)
[16:06] <NativeAngels> any way of resolving a host on a linux box without purchasing the domain
[16:06] <rambo3> tooltip
[16:06] <hollywoodb> psych: mouseover or tooltip
[16:06] <psych> im experiencing black tooltip after dist upgrade
[16:07] <psych> video driver?
[16:07] <daftykins> NativeAngels, enter the IP and hostname into your /etc/hosts file
[16:08] <CharelB> How can I remove a broken package from apt/system?
[16:09] <san> hi
[16:09] <san> any girls there
[16:09] <oCean_> ckebabo: Seems there is no 'easy' way to do that. See this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4873266#post4873266
[16:10] <NativeAngels> how do i do that daftykins
[16:11] <Moi> hi all
[16:11] <nomadde> hello
[16:12] <daftykins> NativeAngels, open a terminal window and type "gksudo gedit /etc/hosts"
[16:12] <daftykins> it should be pretty self-explanatory from then on, but ask if you're stuck
[16:14] <andre> hey
[16:14] <Mike|Ghos> Any americans here have a TV Tuner and would like to make some money? I require a TV stream to watch.
[16:14] <metho> i hava problem, i loss an application if i minimize it. i mean its there but its dissappered from taskbar
[16:14] <andre> no sorry... german
[16:14] <torc> could a rogue cd drive or floppy drive be causing some weird errors when I try to install Ubuntu? (I'm not using them but they are plugged in)
[16:14] <Geek`N`Proud> torc: yes
[16:14] <metho> any ideas
[16:14] <Geek`N`Proud> rogue devices can mess with system installs sometimes
[16:15] <Geek`N`Proud> firewire was a killer for some people at one time for example
[16:15] <Guest78457> metho
[16:15] <Guest78457> ?
[16:15] <torc> Geek`N`Proud: alright, so it might be a good idea to unplug the CD drive I'm not using and the floppy drive, since I'm getting weird errors and the CD has no defects?
[16:15] <nomadde> welche software soll ich benutzen um ein iso bildung in ein dvd schreiben
[16:15] <metho> i hava problem, i loss an application if i minimize it. i mean its there but it gets dissappered from taskbar
[16:15] <Geek`N`Proud> torc: worth a try
[16:16] <Guest78457> metho, you must kill the minimized process
[16:16] <torc> the installer gave me a buffer I/O error
[16:16] <metho> how
[16:16] <Guest78457> in you systemmonitore
[16:16] <Guest78457> have u gnome?
[16:16] <Geek`N`Proud> torc: when it happens Ctrl+Alt+F3 or so
[16:16] <metho> yes
[16:16] <Guest78457> k
[16:16] <Geek`N`Proud> use a text based console
[16:16] <Geek`N`Proud> then dmesg
[16:16] <Guest78457> right klick
[16:16] <Geek`N`Proud> see if that gives any extra info
[16:16] <Guest78457> and add systemonitor
[16:17] <torc> Geek`N`Proud: should I start the graphical installer or should I hit ESC and use the text-based one?
[16:17] <Guest78457> or any else... than with normal klick you can open youre sys-monitore
[16:17] <Guest78457> and than u have many processes.. kill your minimized process and restart
[16:18] <Geek`N`Proud> torc: maybe use the ubuntu-server CD then sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[16:18] <Geek`N`Proud> that will give you a desktop install still
[16:19] <Geek`N`Proud> but the install process will have to install fewer packages.. meaning things are less likely to foobar
[16:19] <Geek`N`Proud> I had to do that for Dapper at one point
[16:19] <Guest78457> metho: problem solved?
[16:19] <torc>  Geek`N`Proud hmm...I suppose that's true; alright I'll download and burn that one in the mean time but I'll go ahead and start trying what you mentioned before with the one I have
[16:20] <metho> ok done all that but still no joy... all my processes are in sleeping mood... i mean i am using this xchat but i cant see this on taskbar
[16:20] <kurosaki-ichigo> hi all
[16:20] <Guest78457> mhh...
[16:20] <kurosaki-ichigo> i have a notebook with 4 gb of ram
[16:20] <Guest78457> than you must configue youre taskbar
[16:20] <kurosaki-ichigo> how much space I have to use for swap?
[16:20] <johan12> evening all! for some reason i can't write anything to my portable ntfs hdd, any thoughts?
[16:20] <Guest78457> yes, its normal that all processes are sleeping.
[16:21] <Guest78457> right klick on taskbar than add a modul or some shit...
[16:21] <Guest78457> or..
[16:22] <Guest78457> add icon-box...
[16:22] <torc> Geek`N`Proud: do I have to type anything special when I want to install the 64bit desktop version? or will the server CD select that automatically because I'm using 64bit server disk?
[16:22] <Geek`N`Proud> torc: it will automatically be 64-bit
[16:22] <Geek`N`Proud> when the base system is 64-bit so will the rest
[16:22] <Guest78457> metho: if you hadn't icon-box installed you can install by synaptic.
[16:23] <oCean_> johan12: use "ntfs-3g" as fs type. See "fmask/dmask" mount options in: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[16:23] <metho> kool, how do i configure my taskbar.. all i want to do is have the option to launch the minimized app again!
[16:23] <metho> icon box?
[16:23] <Guest78457> :D
[16:23] <Guest78457> yes its some shit...
[16:23] <Guest78457> i have XFCE..
[16:23] <Guest78457> on sawfish
[16:23] <Guest10933> :P
[16:24] <johan12> oCean_: it worked a couple a days ago and now it doesn't
[16:24] <tpw_rules> i just upgraded to kernel 2.6.24-23 on my acer aspire one, along with a bunch of other updates, and now it continually spews error messages to the console. in recovery mode it panics because it tried to kill init
[16:24] <Guest78457> cause i don't know the real name of youres
[16:24] <Guest78457> soo... problem solved metho?
[16:24] <metho> 1 min!
[16:24] <Guest78457> ok.
[16:24] <Guest78457> :=
[16:24] <Guest78457> :)
[16:25] <afancy> Help: just now I have installed "gedit-plugins", now when i restart, the X-windows was hanged. Cannot start x-server
[16:26] <borysfan> I wrote my own program and I want to add this program to autostart. I would like to do this in programming way.
[16:26] <borysfan> CAn you tell me where can i find autostart file?
[16:26] <oCean_> johan12: but the device *is* mounted? Using ntfs-3g?
[16:26] <johan12> oCean_: runing xubuntu 8.10, yes
[16:27] <unop> !startup > borysfan
[16:27] <roxlu> hi
[16:27] <metho> no its not solved...  i dont know what happened. i just upgraded to the new .23 kernel and now  this!!! is new kernel stable?
[16:27] <Guest33655> ohhh i don't know...
[16:27] <roxlu> maybe someone here who know the java library "lwjgl" and knows how to install it on ubuntu??
[16:27] <Guest33655> mhh.... maybe add a new taskbar
[16:27] <afancy> Help: just now I have installed "gedit-plugins", now when i restart, the X-windows was hanged. Cannot start x-server
[16:27] <metho> how
[16:27] <Guest33655> and than configure it.
[16:27] <metho> how do i delete this first one
[16:28] <afancy> hi, could anybody know why??
[16:28] <afancy> Help: just now I have installed "gedit-plugins", now when i restart, the X-windows was hanged. Cannot start x-server
[16:28] <Guest33655> right klick... delete or some other.. i haven't gnome :-/
[16:28] <metho> first one deleted
[16:28] <Guest33655> ok
[16:29] <metho> how do i get it back
[16:29] <johan12> oCean_: when properties it says owner root
[16:29] <Guest33655> ALT + F2
[16:29] <Guest33655> and than
[16:29] <Guest33655> gnome-panel
[16:29] <FloodBot2> Guest33655: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:30] <borysfan> ubottu, you don't understand me
[16:30] <borysfan> i would like to edit autostart file from programming level
[16:30] <Dr_willis> borysfan,  you got that right. :) hes just a bot/script
[16:30] <jrib> borysfan: what does that mean?
[16:31] <oCean_> johan12: ntfs does not know about permissions like unix does. Check if it is really mounted ntfs-3g (use output of "mount" command) and see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions howto use permissions (fmask/dmask) on those filesystems
[16:31] <matt_keys> I have a route/iptables problem I need help with. I've posted my problem on http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-networking-3/routingiptables-problem-710040/#post3468704
[16:31] <Dr_willis> borysfan,  theres an Autostart directory that is used on a PER USER basis
[16:31] <afancy> Help: just now I have installed "gedit-plugins", now when i restart, the X-windows was hanged. Cannot start x-server
[16:31] <Dr_willis> borysfan,  what is it you wish to start up exactly?
[16:31] <Guest65845> Hi! does anyone know how to uninstall .sh files from Ubuntu via command terminal?
[16:32] <Chousuke> Guest65845: uninstall .sh files?
[16:32] <matt_keys> Guest65845: .sh files are scripts. rm them...
[16:32] <Chousuke> Guest65845: you mean self-extracting archives?
[16:32] <Chousuke> Guest65845: you need to remove them manually.
[16:32] <Guest65845> example: file.sh
[16:32] <Guest33655> mhh.... metho: is your problem solved, now?
[16:32] <borysfan> i had to make "procesor of e-mails" (something like that:))
[16:33] <oCean_> Guest65845: an .sh is 'just there' on the filesystem. Remove it like any other file: "rm file.sh"
[16:33] <Dr_willis> Guest33655,  thers no guarenteed way. check the programs docs.. it MIGHT have a  whatever.sh --remove or other option
[16:33] <johan12> oCean_: "/dev/sdb1    1      121601   976760001    7  HPFS/NTFS
[16:33] <johan12> " when sudo fdisk -l
[16:33] <Dr_willis> we got too many guests.. :)
[16:33] <borysfan> and i would like to edit autostart file
[16:33] <Guest65845> Ok, Thanks
[16:33] <Chousuke> Guest65845: if it's a single file, just remove it. if it was a self-extracting archive, you need to figure out what it wrote and where, and remove the files manually.
[16:33] <dnet5> lllll
[16:33] <borysfan> to start my program
[16:33] <torc> Geek`N`Proud: I can't do the sudo apt-get install from the server CD because it installs the wrong Ethernet drivers for my network ports. Is there a way I can switch those? It installs ASUS ones and I need it to install nVidia ones.
[16:34] <Chousuke> Guest33655: this is why you should not use self-extracting archives :)
[16:34] <borysfan> and i don't know which file i have to edit, and how
[16:34] <Guest33655> not i
[16:34] <afancy> Help: just now I have installed "gedit-plugins", now when i restart, the X-windows was hanged. Cannot start x-server
[16:34] <Guest33655> ^^
[16:34] <afancy> Help: just now I have installed "gedit-plugins", now when i restart, the X-windows was hanged. Cannot start x-server
[16:34] <Chousuke> Guest33655: or when you do, extract them in their own directory under /opt/ so they don't pollute the root filesystem
[16:34] <oCean_> johan12: but fdisk does not tell you about the mount status of the device. type "mount" to see if the device is mounted and with what options
[16:34] <Dreamglider-> i just copied a NTFS partition from an external hd to my internal on a NTFS partition, how would i include it in the grub bootlaoder so i can boot it(WinXP), it is located on /dev/sda4.
[16:34] <afancy> Help: just now I have installed "gedit-plugins", now when i restart, the X-windows was hanged. Cannot start x-server
[16:34] <Shoopuf> Hello. I installed Ubuntu about a week ago -- dual-booting Windows XP and Ubuntu... The problem is that [sometimes] when GRUB appears my monitor does not seem to notice it, and it stays in a no-power state. Does anyone else have this problem? It makes it so I can't see the GRUB menu, thus can't change the OS!
[16:34] <metho> its solved!
[16:34] <Dr_willis> afancy,  i really doubt if  the 2 things are related.. remove the package from the command line if you want.
[16:34] <oCean_> !repeat > afancy
[16:34] <Dr_willis> afancy,  sudo apt-get remove whatever-packagename
[16:35] <Dr_willis> afancy,  as another test.. make a new user, and see if it affects them also
[16:35] <NativeAngels> when adding a host to the /etc/hosts file do you only use localip or can u use public ip
[16:35] <afancy> Dr_willis: when i installed the plugin, it overwrited some library
[16:35] <dayo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/128374/
[16:35] <dayo> ?
[16:35] <borysfan> Anybody know where autostart file is located??
[16:36] <Dr_willis> afancy,  theres should be nothing with gedit that would keep X from starting up
[16:36] <dayo> how can i fix this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/128374/
[16:36] <johan12> oCean_: http://pastebin.com/d3dfc2631
[16:36] <jtaji> NativeAngels: either, whichever you need it to resolve to
[16:36] <Dr_willis> borysfan,  totally depends on what you are wanting to start up as to where/what to change.
[16:36] <Dr_willis> borysfan,  /etc/rc.local for 'system' type commands/tasks
[16:36] <torc> Shoopuf: you might try increasing the timeout time in your menu.lst to see if the monitor responds after a longer time and notices it finally.
[16:36] <oCean_> NativeAngels: adding a host to /etc/hosts will allow YOU to connect the machine by hostname. So you have to use the ip you would normally use to connect. But, adding /etc/hosts, will NOT make the name available through all of internet
[16:36] <borysfan> I want to start my own programm
[16:37] <torc> I can't do the sudo apt-get install from the server CD because it installs the wrong Ethernet drivers for my network ports. Is there a way I can switch those? It installs ASUS ones and I need it to install nVidia ones.
[16:37] <metho> how do i get my deleted taskbar
[16:37] <Dr_willis> borysfan,  thats still vague.. so  either use rc.local or the users Autostart directory
[16:37] <oCean_> johan12: type fuseblk = ok. But first option after that is 'ro' , meaning read-only.
[16:37] <NativeAngels> ok oCean_
[16:38] <Shoopuf> I forgot to mention that I am booting Ubuntu from a USB hard disk, and Windows XP is installed in a hard disk inside the computer. Could this cause the problem?
[16:38] <oCean_> johan12: not sure what cause the filesystem to mount 'read-only'
[16:38] <borysfan> ok. SO i want to edit rc.local. How i can do that?
[16:38] <oCean_> *caused
[16:39] <Dr_willis> borysfan,  we never proved thats what you want to do.. its a text file.. edit it as root with a text editor.. if thats is the proper thing for whatever it is you are running
[16:39] <Dr_willis> borysfan,  claify what the program does.. and we can guide you
[16:40] <johan12> oCean_: how come? it's been workin and today it stopped, how do i change it?
[16:40] <dayo> how can i fix this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/128374/
[16:40] <torc> Ok, so now the install is failing still and I did CTRL-ALT-F3 and dmesg and now I see that it is reporting: Buffer I/O error on device sr1, logical block 48491, SQUASHFS errors, and other sr1 errors. Thoughts? Geek`N`Proud
[16:40] <oCean_> borysfan: see also the manual page on update-rc.d ("man update-rc.d") for setting up SysV style init scripts
[16:40] <borysfan> this is school project. This program works like procmail in unix system
[16:41] <Huufarted> Anybody that would mind helping me break this down to understand it?      PS1='${debian_chroot:+($debian_chroot)}\u@\h:\w\$ '
[16:41] <Dr_willis> borysfan,  for a SYSTEM type service.. rc.local or make proper init scripts for it.
[16:41] <ikonia> Huufarted: that doesn't look like an ubuntu system
[16:41] <Dr_willis> borysfan,  for a users personal programs.. Autostart directory
[16:41] <Huufarted> ikonia, it's taken straight from my .bashrc
[16:41] <ikonia> Huufarted: on an ubuntu system ?
[16:41] <borysfan> this program works for all users
[16:42] <Huufarted> on an ubuntu system
[16:42] <Dr_willis> borysfan,  you just sort of said it was a 'system type service' then sounds like to me
[16:42] <torc> Ok, so now the install is failing still and I did CTRL-ALT-F3 and dmesg and now I see that it is reporting: Buffer I/O error on device sr1, logical block 48491, SQUASHFS errors, and other sr1 errors. Thoughts? Geek`N`Proud
[16:42] <oCean_> johan12: I don't know why. Try (re)mounting it by hand: First unmount the disk ("cd" - to ensure you are not on the mountpoint, then "sudo umount /media/LAC"<hit tab>  --this is because space is in directoryname)
[16:42] <NativeAngels> ok oCean_ when you update or change the /etc/hosts file do you have to restart anything or will it be recogniesd straight away
[16:42] <ikonia> Huufarted: ok, so what it is doing is setting a coloured prompt to show username@hostname and the current working directory on your PS1 prompt
[16:42] <oCean_> NativeAngels: effective immediately
[16:42] <NativeAngels> ok
[16:42] <NativeAngels> thanks
[16:43] <Huufarted> ikonia, I don't think that's the one being invoked, though.  hang on.  Here, this is the one being invoked it looks like:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/128379/
[16:43] <disappearedng> Hey everyone I have a task that I would like to achieve: given a file of books names, how could I write a script (or anything) to access and retrieve its ratings from Amazon? how should I go about doing this ?
[16:43] <Huufarted> ikonia, I know it's doing that, I just don't understand how.  I want to customize the PS1, but I don't want to make it unworkable in the process
[16:43] <ikonia> Huufarted: it's using the PS1 varible depending on your term type
[16:44] <jrib> disappearedng: start by picking your favorite scripting language (then go to that channel's room)
[16:44] <disappearedng> do you think python can do this?
[16:44] <disappearedng> I don't know any scripting language
[16:44] <jrib> disappearedng: definitely
[16:44] <jrib> disappearedng: python is one
[16:45] <disappearedng> k thx
[16:45] <Huufarted> ikonia, Understood.  What I don't understand is stuff like:  \[\e]0;    I assume it means take a literal [, but why does the e need a \?
[16:45] <jtaji> Huufarted: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prompt-HOWTO/bash-prompt-escape-sequences.html
[16:46] <ikonia> Huufarted: it's an escape char
[16:46] <lowlycoder> if you're wearing a fleece pull over, are you suposed to wear a t shirt undernearth it?
[16:46] <Huufarted> jtaji, niiiice.  :)  Thanks!  I didn't even think of it being an escape character
[16:46] <matt_keys> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-networking-3/routingiptables-problem-710040/?posted=1#post3468744
[16:46] <ikonia> lowlycoder: what has that got to do with ubuntu ?
[16:47] <ikonia> matt_keys: what do you want us to do with that ?
[16:48] <vdX09> Hi everyone :)
[16:49] <Huufarted> ikonia, jtaji:  ok, so it starts with \[ opening the non-printable characters bit.  \e says escape sequence.  What does ]0 mean?
[16:50] <CarlFK> anyone know of anything that touches the parallel port, other than 'look for printers' and 'print to parallel port'?
[16:50] <ikonia> Huufarted: \e is the option, it's then ecacaping 0] as I read it
[16:50] <ikonia> Huufarted: check out the link jrib posted, that looked quite good
[16:50] <CarlFK> at work there is a claim: "Ubuntu keeps messing with the parallel port settings and we're having trouble with the sensor switches which are  attached to the port."  (im skeptical of this claim)
[16:50] <RoastedTiresX> Question - My one drive was unplugged accidentally when I ran my rsync script. As a result, the rsync'd data got kicked over to my root partition. Where on the root partition is it so I can delete it and get my space back for apps and whatnot?
[16:50] <cor77> hey gays
[16:51] <jrib> ikonia: someone else
[16:51] <Huufarted> ikonia, I did, but it doesn't go into detail about the individual escape sequences.  :(  I don't like bothering folks with innane questions like this, but 'man bash' didn't look like it had anything relating to it, either.  not sure where else to look
[16:51] <ikonia> jrib: oh, thought it was you
[16:51] <jtaji> Huufarted: actually that one sets the titleba
[16:51] <jtaji> Huufarted: titlebar
[16:51] <Huufarted> jtaji, Oh....  that explains a lot.
[16:51] <ikonia> Huufarted: there you go jtaji knows the answer, slick jrib
[16:51] <ikonia> jtaji: sorry
[16:51] <jtaji> :D
[16:52] <Huufarted> jtaji, so does that mean ${debian_chroot:+($debian_chroot)} is the actual titlebar?
[16:53] <jtaji> Huufarted: I'm not sure when $debian_chroot is set, normally it's blank it seems
[16:53] <Huufarted> jtaji, nvm.  I think I figured it out.  it's referenced, but since it's blank, you won't notice anything
[16:54] <Tigger__> does anyone know if they have fixed the broken 'via chrome' grapics driver on Ubuntu 8.10 yet ?
[16:54] <yuri_> lol nope
[16:54] <benovic> I get the grub error 17: cannot mount selected partition when I try to mount another linux system I manually added to grub on hd0,1. 'sudo fdisk -l' even says its a fat32 filesystem, whereas gparted correctly labels it as ext3
[16:54] <Tigger__> hehehehe
[16:54] <Tigger__> bugger
[16:55] <Tigger__> i'll have to wait then :)
[16:55] <yuri_> does any 1 know where i can find any application to open *.exe file
[16:55] <benovic> its a pretty mess to run 2 debian systems from one hd :(
[16:55] <Huufarted> benovic, is it in your fstab?
[16:55] <Huufarted> benovic, ignore that.  Your'e talking about GRUB.
[16:55] <Dr_willis> benovic,  ive had no problems with that.  :)
[16:55] <benovic> ah ok
[16:56] <benovic> but i dont know why grub cannot mount the partition
[16:56] <benovic> i thought maybe its because of the ext3-fat32 thing
[16:56] <Dr_willis> grub dosent MOUNT things. :) it acc3ess them. What ext3-fat32 thing?
[16:56] <Shoopuf> Does Ubu use GRUB1 or GRUB2?
[16:57] <adam> well.... I was directed here..
[16:57] <Dr_willis> benovic,  sounds like it may be a confused partiion/flags then.. like you said
[16:57] <adam> can anyone help me to get flash working?
[16:57] <benovic> dev/sda2 is ext3 in gparted and in fdisk -l its fat32
[16:57] <brandon__> ya ill help
[16:57] <_Whipper__> adam: whats the prblm?
[16:57] <Guest11645> I jut got ubuntu last night, and I can't even get flash for youtube.
[16:57] <Guest11645> I'm very new to alllll of this.
[16:58] <Huufarted> ikonia, jtaji: perhaps you 2 will find this useful.  I figured it out.  I appreciate it!  http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prompt-HOWTO/xterm-title-bar-manipulations.html
[16:58] <benovic> Dr_willis its a fresh install on hd0,1, so i can wipe it easily, but i think that would not help me
[16:58] <sky_> how i can test my microphone if it works ?
[16:58] <_Whipper__> adam: check your repos, and install what u need
[16:58] <Dreamglider-> if i were to have /home on a seperate partition from ubuntu could i just install over the broken ubuntu at have all software end setting as they were before the system died ?
[16:58] <Guest11645> where is the repos at whipper?
[16:58] <brandon__> flash website has dl for utube its self install fairly easy... i bet ubentu had built in installer if you wanna use terminal
[16:59] <Porky> Hi there, I have a problem, in Dolphin, there's no more window decorator, may someone help me?
[16:59] <Guest11645> well, I went to youtube and downloaded the deb.
[16:59] <Guest11645> and that didn't work...
[16:59] <_Whipper__> adam: Synaptic
[16:59] <Guest11645> then i couldn't just open it, because I didn't have some file.
[16:59] <Huufarted> Dreamglider-: I would back up /etc/ and /home before doing that and just wipe it.  But yes, you CAN just install Ubuntu over a broken installation
[16:59] <Guest11645> synaptic, go there and then what?
[16:59] <Dr_willis> benovic,  perhaps delete/remake/reformat the partiion.. sounds like somtuing is confused in the  partition table/partition type, you could try using fdisk to set its type to ext2/3 if thats what it is..
[16:59] <oCean_> Guest11645: think you need to install flashplugin-nonfree. Type: "sudo apt-get update" then "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree"
[17:00] <matt_keys> if you have a suggestion PM me or respond on the tread please: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-networking-3/routingiptables-problem-710040/?posted=1#post3468744
[17:00] <_Whipper__> brandon: doesnt usually work that way, in my case i mean, dont know others..
[17:00] <Guest11645> in a terminal?
[17:00] <matt_keys> thread*
[17:00] <munk_> i have an issue I couldnt find a solution with google for....i have a noname webcam that i cant get to work, it doesnt show in lsusb but it shows that it has been connected when i do dmesg
[17:00] <sky_> how i can test my microphone
[17:00] <codeuser> Guest11645Lyes
[17:00] <codeuser> Guest11645: Yes*
[17:00] <Dreamglider-> Huufarted, how about hosting both /ext and /home on seperate partitions would that work too ?
[17:00] <Guest11645> how do I scroll up in this?.
[17:00] <Dr_willis> !ifs
[17:01] <Dr_willis> !ext3
[17:01] <brandon__> GO TO FLASH SITE AND DL THE .DEB THEN OPEN WITH GDEBI PACKER AND GO THROUGH THE MOTIONS OF TELLING YOUR PASSWORD AND SUCH AND MAKE SURE YOU RESTART FIREFOX
[17:01] <_Whipper__> adam: u can and u should use synaptic, if u r new to linux
[17:01] <vdX09> i would like to knw if there is a ubuntu version of Autodesk Maya?
[17:01] <codeuser> Guest11645: what client are you using? XChat IRC is what I'm using and it has a scroll bar
[17:01] <oCean_> brandon__: don't
[17:01] <Guest11645> I can't read a .deb
[17:01] <Guest11645> it said I was missing something..
[17:01] <oCean_> Guest11645: are you in xchat program?
[17:01] <jrib> Guest11645: at least your detailed and specific though
[17:01] <Porky> Hi there, I have a problem in Dolphin, there's no more window decorator, may someone help me?
[17:01] <oCean_> Guest11645: then you can scroll using mousewheel
[17:01] <deany> with an ATI and fglrx do i need the "composite" enable  line in my xorg while using compiz?
[17:01] <Huufarted> lol I have never needed the fs driver.  Any reason I would need to pull something from within Windows, I'd just figure out how to do it in Ubuntu.  Usually takes about 5 minutes tops.
[17:02] <codeuser> Porky: log out and log back in
[17:02] <oCean_> Guest11645: but you probably looking for the commands, let me repeat them: first "sudo apt-get update" then "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree"
[17:02] <Guest11645> let me go install the or attempt the deb
[17:02] <Guest11645> and see waht it says again
[17:02] <deany> compiz works, i just wondered if it was something i should have..for whatever reason
[17:02] <Dreamglider-> Guest11599, - Adam: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[17:02] <Porky> codeuser, it's been a week it works like that
[17:02] <bosco_> what is the difference between default ubuntu and installing ubuntu-studio package
[17:02] <brandon__> when i tried to umount my /dev/sda3 partition it says mounted multiple times
[17:02] <bosco_> ????
[17:03] <bosco_> !info ubuntu-studio
[17:03] <Dreamglider-> sorry Guest11645 *
[17:03] <_Whipper__> i think NEW users of lin should at first stick to the GUI
[17:03] <ortsvorsteher> !ubuntu-studio
[17:03] <Guest11645> "error: dependency is not satisfiable: libpango 1.0-0
[17:03] <Guest11645> thats what it says
[17:03] <Guest11645> so I cant open the deb
[17:03] <oCean_> Guest11645: do as I suggested
[17:04] <brandon__> when i tried to umount my /dev/sda3 partition it says mounted multiple times..... when i check the mount it was sure enough mounted twice so can some1 help me out with the command to force unmount on of them
[17:04] <Guest11645> what did you suggest ocean?
[17:04] <oCean_> Guest11645: first "sudo apt-get update" then "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfre
[17:04] <Guest11645> ok
[17:04] <munk_> i have an issue I couldnt find a solution with google for....i have a noname webcam that i cant get to work, it doesnt show in lsusb but it shows that it has been connected when i do dmesg..can someone direct me to how to get ubuntu to see it?
[17:04] <Guest11645> in a terminal?
[17:04] <brandon__> ya
[17:04] <oCean_> Guest11645: add an extra e: "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree"
[17:04] <_Whipper__> *blouh*
[17:05] <brandon__> btw the pasword wont show and sudo means run with admin (root) privlages
[17:05] <brandon__> its 1 line
[17:05] <brandon__> when i tried to umount my /dev/sda3 partition it says mounted multiple times..... when i check the mount it was sure enough mounted twice so can some1 help me out with the command to force unmount on of them
[17:06] <magcius> Why is the terminal starting in a working directory other than ~?
[17:06] <brandon__> use cd
[17:06] <Guest11645> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[17:06] <Guest11645> adam@adam-desktop:~$                 flashplugin-nonfree
[17:06] <Guest11645> bash: flashplugin-nonfree: command not found
[17:06] <Guest11645> adam@adam-desktop:~$
[17:06] <FloodBot2> Guest11645: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:06] <Guest11645> that's what it said
[17:06] <DShepherd> what is the name of the default image viewer for gnome?
[17:07] <magcius> brandon__, yes, I know, but why is it starting somewhere else?
[17:07] <anthonys> DShepherd: I think it's eye of gnome
[17:07] <torc> Ok, so now the install is failing still and I did CTRL-ALT-F3 and dmesg and now I see that it is reporting: Buffer I/O error on device sr1, logical block 48491, SQUASHFS errors, and other sr1 errors. Thoughts? Geek`N`Proud
[17:07] <brandon__> where did it start
[17:07] <RiceMonster> Guest11645: you need to type "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree"
[17:07] <zulixp> Hi, I've a little question: How enable Bluetooth Voice Gatevay on Ubuntu 8.10? because I want to use my PC as Bluetooth headset.
[17:07] <sanjud> having the livecd expanded on hard disk and booting to it, has it been your experience that it locks up more because of the wifi enabled?
[17:07] <oCean_> Guest11645: first. Don't paste here, use pastebin service. Then: something went wrong typing the commands.
[17:07] <sebsebseb>  
[17:07] <magcius> brandon__, a directory I visted earlier.
[17:07] <putri> waw
[17:08] <putri> hi all.. pls help me
[17:08] <magcius> brandon__, ~/.mozilla/firefox-3.2/2ddhwaxu.default
[17:08] <anthonys> !ask | putri
[17:08] <oCean_> Guest11645: first run "sudo apt-get update" -> this will run for couple of seconds, showing you some output regarding the repositories
[17:08] <brandon__> it starts that way if you restart terminal?
[17:08] <magcius> brandon__, yes.
[17:08] <putri> i am using ubuntu 8.04, i have problem with mozilla, how to change mozzila default save
[17:09] <sebsebseb> putri: what you mean default save?
[17:09] <DShepherd> anthonys, thanks
[17:09] <DShepherd> anthonys, do you know what command launches it though?
[17:09] <fafaz> hi all
[17:09] <magcius> sebsebseb, I think he means where downloads default to.
[17:09] <PoetOfShadows> DShepherd: try evince
[17:09] <ortsvorsteher> !hello | fafaz
[17:09] <sebsebseb> fafaz: hi
[17:09] <fafaz> :)
[17:09] <jigspan> hello everybody
[17:10] <sebsebseb> jigspan: hi
[17:10] <PoetOfShadows> !hi | jigspan
[17:10] <zulixp> Putri, did you mean default downloads save location?
[17:10] <jigspan> thanks
[17:10] <putri> yes
[17:10] <DShepherd> PoetOfShadows, ok
[17:10] <sebsebseb> putri: edit preferences and you can find it there
[17:10] <fafaz> I'm new to ubuntu .. it's great
[17:10] <brandon__> hmmm. i would just think its part of what you were doing before. cd $HOME and resart
[17:10] <dayo> my idiot colleague mixed a mint source into my intrepid source list. now my google search has that mint logo in it. how do i get rid of it?
[17:10] <sebsebseb> fafaz: indeed it is
[17:10] <PoetOfShadows> fafaz: we all know that!
[17:10] <jigspan> i am new to ubuntu can any one help?
[17:10] <sebsebseb> jigspan: help with what?
[17:11] <magcius> brandon__, nope, still borked.
[17:11] <ortsvorsteher> jigspan: just ask
[17:11] <magcius> !ask | jigspan
[17:11] <sebsebseb> !ask
[17:11] <putri> oow... thank u, :D im newbie :">
[17:11] <jigspan> wait
[17:11] <Geek`N`Proud> torc: that's a CD drive issue
[17:11] <PoetOfShadows> dayo: try and remove the repository and then delete all the mint packages
[17:11] <Geek`N`Proud> you need to get it loaded as IDE not PATA
[17:11] <Dreamglider-> jigspan, just ask the question :)
[17:11] <Geek`N`Proud> torc: sorry about the delay
[17:11] <jigspan> how to play music cd?
[17:11] <zulixp> emmmm, how enable Bluetooth Voice gateway on Ubuntu 8.10?
[17:11] <magcius> dayo, edit your Software Sources
[17:11] <xiq> hello
[17:12] <fafaz> I've a question: there is some applications that are designed to KDE.. is there any problem if I want to use it under gnome?
[17:12] <magcius> dayo, but Mint Linux shouldn't affect google searches.
[17:12] <PoetOfShadows> !hi | xiq
[17:12] <sebsebseb> fafaz: nope most KDE apps will work under Gnome as well, once the KDE libs are installed
[17:12] <dayo> PoetOfShadows: i've removed the repo from /etc/apt/sources.list, but how do i know which ones are the mint packages?
[17:12] <sebsebseb> xiq: hi
[17:12] <xiq> i can help with the affected search :D
[17:12] <magcius> fafaz, they won't look as pretty, but they will work.
[17:12] <dayo> magcius: well it does :-(
[17:12] <jigspan> how to log on as a rootuser?
[17:12] <Geek`N`Proud> torc: Server CD is easiest route out of that.. and it seems like that could be a bad burn or a corrupt image
[17:12] <brandon__> magicus try profile
[17:12] <PoetOfShadows> dayo: they might have a name of <package>-mint
[17:12] <sebsebseb> !root |  jigspan
[17:12] <xiq> dayo: just set your homepage to www.google.com because, for example, ubuntu also has custom search
[17:13] <zulixp> jigspan, you must go throug recovery mode
[17:13] <PoetOfShadows> dayo: I never like mint, so I wouldn't really know
[17:13] <Dreamglider-> jigspan, use sudo infromt of the comman it will give you root
[17:13] <magcius> brandon__, what do you mean?
[17:13] <fafaz> sebsebseb: how about installing KDE on Ubuntu ?
[17:13] <magcius> jigspan, Ubuntu doesn't have a superuser.
[17:13] <sebsebseb> fafaz: which version of Ubuntu?
[17:13] <xiq> make me a sandwich. "i won't". Sudo make me a sandwich!! "ok"
[17:13] <fafaz> 8.10
[17:13] <zulixp> or put "sudo" before every comand in terminal, then write your password
[17:13] <jigspan> how to play music cd?
[17:14] <magcius> jigspan, to get a terminal as root do "sudo su -" or "sudo -c"
[17:14] <sebsebseb> fafaz: ok sadly  only KDE 4 is in the repo for 8.10,  and KDE3 was pretty nice
[17:14] <PoetOfShadows> xiq: don't you love xkcd?
[17:14] <dayo> PoetOfShadows: yeah, i don't like mint either, but my colleague is a gui-freak
[17:14] <xiq> PoetOfShadows: whats that?
[17:14] <dayo> xiq: i'll try that
[17:14] <sebsebseb> fafaz: having both KDE 3 and 4 is nice, but I don't know how to have them both in 8.10 if it's even possible
[17:14] <Dr_willis> jigspan,  use 'sudo -s' or 'sudo -i' to get a root shell NOT the other commands :)
[17:14] <brandon__> a fix might be making a new profile and running it with a cd... you can correctly change directories right?
[17:14] <PoetOfShadows> xiq: where the "sudo make me a sandwich" came from
[17:14] <sebsebseb> fafaz: unless KDE3 is in a virtual machine
[17:14] <Dr_willis> http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2008/05/09/a-root-shell-on-ubuntu-the-right-way/
[17:14] <jigspan> ok i got that what about my 2nd question?
[17:14] <xiq> PoetOfShadows: i once read it somewhere :D
[17:14] <PoetOfShadows> dayo: it happens… unfortuneatly
[17:14] <matt_keys> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-networking-3/routingiptables-problem-710040/?posted=1#post3468744
[17:15] <sebsebseb> fafaz: KDE 4.1 in the repo,  and you can get 4.2 if you go to the kubuntu.org site and do as it says
[17:15] <magcius> brandon__, yes.
[17:15] <fafaz> sebsebseb: thanks
[17:15] <sebsebseb> fafaz: ,but otherwise for KDE 4.1        sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[17:15] <brandon__> ie add a cd $HOME to .bash _profile
[17:15] <zulixp> What difference between KDE and Gnome?
[17:15] <sebsebseb> fafaz: KDE 4  no thanks, except some apps became better,  KDE 3 :)
[17:15] <brandon__> or make a new one and add cd to it
[17:15] <sebsebseb> !kde
[17:15] <sebsebseb> !gnome
[17:15] <Ascavasaion> I am running Ubuntu and on bootup I am seeing this message about six times during screen flashes and resolution changes..."[29.830014] serial8250: too much work for irq3"... when I do a dmesg | grep serial8250 I get about twenty messages similar to the above one.  Can anyone help?
[17:16] <PoetOfShadows> !terminal
[17:16] <sebsebseb> fafaz: want KDE3 as well?
[17:17] <fafaz> sebsebseb: is it possible to install it? and what is the difference between KDE 3 and 4 ?
[17:17] <defrysk> fafaz, 1
[17:17] <dayo> PoetOfShadows: xiq: i removed mint from my source list, and deleted all the mint packages in /var/cache/apt/archives, and made www.google.com my homepage, and restarted ff. but i still get the mint logo in my google search results. :-(
[17:18] <jigspan> how to play mpeg3 format on ubuntu?
[17:18] <magnetron> !mp3 | jigspan
[17:18] <zulixp> Install VLC media player
[17:18] <xiq> dayo: where did you edit the homepage
[17:19] <dayo> xiq: in Edit-->Preferences-->Main
[17:19] <magnetron> zulixp→ as the page i linked to states: it's sufficient to install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[17:19] <sebsebseb> fafaz: easiest way to have KDE3 as well is to  virtual machine it
[17:19] <tpw_rules> i just upgraded to kernel 2.6.24-23 on my acer aspire one, along with a bunch of other updates, and now it continually spews error messages to the console. in recovery mode it panics because it tried to kill init
[17:19] <PoetOfShadows> dayo: go into about:config, and change browser.search.searchEnginesURL and keyword.URL to the default
[17:19] <sebsebseb> fafaz: infact you could have Gnome,  and do  KDE4 in a virtual machine as well, then you can use both at same time like that
[17:19] <xiq> dayo: in which browser?
[17:19] <Dreamglider-> This is my menu.lst for grub -> http://pastebin.com/d22f312bc , i have changed the windows partition to /dev/sda4 can i just edit the 0,0 for windows to 0,4 and reboot ?
[17:19] <sebsebseb> fafaz: KDE3 is the mature stable one which is sadly on the verge of not being suppourted anymore
[17:19] <PoetOfShadows> dayo: that would be in FF, not in the terminal or anything else
[17:19] <sebsebseb> fafaz: KDE3 has been around for years
[17:19] <pimpmaster> anyone know where the openSSL files live? I need to configure SSL for my webserver and specify the location in order to make
[17:20] <xiq> yes, you have to make it in your browser
[17:20] <sebsebseb> fafaz: KDE4 is pretty new
[17:20] <Dr_willis> more and more disrots are dropping kde3 support
[17:20] <sebsebseb> Dr_willis: yep sadly, but with Hardy Heron 8.04 can have both :)
[17:20] <user_> need help setting the screen color bitrate to 8-bit.
[17:20] <sebsebseb> Dr_willis: and could virtual machine that in 8.10 for KDE3
[17:20] <Dr_willis> sebsebseb,  and have 3x the items in the menus!
[17:20] <xiq> windows sucks because: on xub i can use my soundcard but on windows i installed millions of drivers and it doesnt work, see :D
[17:20] <dayo> xiq: firefox 3
[17:20] <xiq> dayo: where did you get it from?
[17:21] <sebsebseb> fafaz: newer is not always better as I found out with KDE4 in general,  and it's sad for KDE3 to be on the verge of dieing
[17:21] <sebsebseb> fafaz: do you know what a virtual machine is?
[17:21] <fafaz> sebsebseb: do you mean new ubuntu installation using virtual machine vmware ?
[17:21] <xiq> dayo: try deleting it and download from an "open" location
[17:21] <zulixp> xiq, have you tried Windows 7?
[17:21] <zulixp> beat
[17:21] <user_> need help setting 8-bit screen color.
[17:21] <torc> kde isn't that great anyways. Too many resources. Unfortunately has some nice apps however...
[17:21] <xiq> zulixp: no i mean every windows
[17:21] <sebsebseb> fafaz: I mean you can run  a  Hardy Heron 8.04   virtual machine for KDE3 yeah.   and VMware will do it, but I  would recommend Virtualbox
[17:21] <dayo> PoetOfShadows: both values are already at default :-/
[17:21] <dayo> xiq: it came with the ibex installation
[17:22] <sebsebseb> fafaz: need the binary from their site http://www.virtualbox.org  for USB suppourt.  so the non OSE
[17:22] <zulixp> Windows 7 has found any drivers for my 4 years old PC
[17:22] <xiq> dayo: try download it from... wait
[17:22] <ortsvorsteher> !ot | zulixp
[17:22] <sebsebseb> fafaz: some people think KDE4 is not stable enough yet, and so are staying with KDE3 for now :)
[17:23] <sebsebseb> fafaz: ,but having both is something :)  oh and you can do Xubuntu as well,  that's like Gnome, but more light waight
[17:23] <fafaz> sebsebseb: I need stability.. so I think I'l stick with my gnome
[17:23] <PoetOfShadows> dayo: did you actually remove the packages from the system with Synaptic/apt, or did you just delete them?
[17:23] <xiq> is firefox available from sourceforge repo?
[17:23] <zulixp> ok ok, but I haven't recieved any ideas for bluetooth voice gateway.
[17:23] <sebsebseb> fafaz: Kubuntu KDE4 works pretty well, but I much prefer KDE3 :)   except when it  comes to a few apps that became better in KDE4, which I run in Gnome
[17:23] <dayo> PoetOfShadows: just deleted them
[17:23] <dayo> dman
[17:23] <dayo> damn
[17:24] <PoetOfShadows> dayo: you should probably remove them via Synaptic or apt
[17:24] <geiseri_> hi, i just accidentally rm -rf my /usr/include directory, is there a way i can tell apt to reinstall those headers?
[17:24] <BeBoo_> anyone know of a program that I can install on our server to notify via email if a process is no longer running or a certain event is logged?
[17:24] <jigspan> how to convert mp3 to ogg vorbis
[17:24] <Zeldarock> I'm having trouble installing compiz fusion
[17:24] <sebsebseb> fafaz: it is worth checking out both KDE4 and KDE3
[17:25] <dayo> PoetOfShadows: how? i've deleted them already
[17:25] <defrysk> jigspan, mp32ogg
[17:25] <sebsebseb> fafaz: and Xubuntu as well   sudo aptitude install xubuntu-desktop
[17:25] <zulixp> jigspan, in add/remove programs search audio converter
[17:25] <jigspan> kindly explain detail
[17:25] <Zeldarock> Guys, Im having trouble installing compiz-fusion
[17:25] <Masamune> Hello?
[17:25] <PoetOfShadows> dayo: the PACKAGE is deleted, but the changes to your system are not; synaptic can list all obsolete packages, and you can remove them from there
[17:26] <ortsvorsteher> !details | Zeldarock
[17:26] <Masamune> Hey there, just wondering if it's possible to use a Ubuntu Live CD along with removable media to install new programs?
[17:26] <Agent_AL> hello, I've got one of tool windows flown away from desktop. what shall I do to bring window back without closing it? I have no popup for that window on taskbar and ALT+TAB dialog does not see it.
[17:26] <Zeldarock> I'm running ubuntu 8.10 using VirtualBox, I insatlled Cmpiz fusion, but rather, I'm having trouble initiating it
[17:27] <defrysk> jigspan, converting mp3 to ogg costs quality
[17:27] <jigspan> zulyxp explain detail
[17:27] <dayo> PoetOfShadows: sudo aptitude autoclean?
[17:27] <jigspan> defrysk, how?
[17:28] <PoetOfShadows> dayo: I don't really use aptitude (I prefer to use Synaptic+apt-get), but I think that that'll work; you might also want to try re-installing FF
[17:28] <dayo> PoetOfShadows: ok
[17:28] <Masamune> Is it possible to download software while using a Live CD?
[17:28] <Ascavasaion> I asked this earlier... and I know I will be chastised for repeating... but here goes anyway.... I am running Ubuntu and on bootup I am seeing this message about six times during screen flashes and resolution changes..."[29.830014] serial8250: too much work for irq3"... when I do a dmesg | grep serial8250 I get about twenty messages similar to the above one.  Can anyone help?
[17:28] <defrysk> jigspan, from one compression to another costs quality
[17:28] <defrysk> jigspan, its the way it is
[17:28] <Zeldarock> Im trying to initiate it by running command Compiz --Replace
[17:28] <Supersaiyan_IV> Masamune, yes, but it will be gone by the time you rebbot, the data will be only stored temporarily
[17:29] <Supersaiyan_IV> reboot*
[17:29] <zulixp> jigspan, in menu "Programs" you'll see "add or remove programs"
[17:29] <zulixp> open it
[17:29] <VolVE> hey all, I have 8.10 server running happily but I want to use some X apps, so I have Xming on my Windows box and it runs individual X apps from the server just fine, but is there any way to get a full desktop running via Xming?
[17:29] <jigspan> but help said that it play batter than mp3
[17:29] <Vigo> Masamune: It will be gone on LiveCD.
[17:29] <Zeldarock> hello?
[17:30] <Masamune> Supersaiyan_IV: well it's not working for me, when I try to use the automated downloads like add/remove program, it tries and then say's can't find something, not sure what it is
[17:30] <pimpmaster> holy crap theres a lot of people in here!
[17:30] <jigspan> zulixp,ok then
[17:30] <defrysk> jigspan, quality of ogg is better when taken from an audio cd
[17:30] <pimpmaster> wtf
[17:30] <sebsebseb> pimpmaster: yep
[17:30] <poison> anyone here know a way to change the 'architecture' apt/synaptic looks for? dell mini 9 "lpia" repositories don't have half what I want but I'm hoping to avoid hand grabbing every dependency and/or installing a full 8.04 or 8.10 if there's a way to change arch on a live system.
[17:30] <defrysk> jigspan, if its in mp3 alsready , you might aswell leave it in mp3
[17:30] <Supersaiyan_IV> Masamune, oh you mean as in, upgrade/download software, could you try to use Synaptic for that ?
[17:30] <jigspan> defrysk, ok but i need to know how to do that
[17:31] <sebsebseb> pimpmaster: Ubuntu is pretty popular :)  ,but sadly not popular enough yet,  for  all hardware manufactures and commercial software companies, to take it  seriously
[17:31] <Vigo> Zeldarock: Purge it and reinstall it or what? if it is a simple error then maybe the forums have data on it.
[17:31] <Masamune> Tried it, it say's there is something it can't find.
[17:31] <Masamune> I'll go and get the error.
[17:31] <sebsebseb> desktop Linux as a whole I should have said, and he is gone
[17:31] <zulixp> Jigsaw, why you need convert from lossy to lossy format?
[17:31] <Agent_AL> hello, I've got one of tool windows flown away from desktop. what shall I do to bring window back without closing it? I have no popup for that window on taskbar and ALT+TAB dialog does not see it.
[17:31] <Supersaiyan_IV> Masamune, great :)
[17:31] <jigspan> i dont know
[17:32] <zulixp> If you don't know, better leave it as it in beginning
[17:32] <Masamune> W: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg/libxext-dev_6.8.2-10_powerpc.deb
[17:32] <Masamune>   404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.46 80]
[17:32] <zulixp> you only loose a quality of your song
[17:32] <RoastedTiresX> Question - My one drive was unplugged accidentally when I ran my rsync script. As a result, the rsync'd data got kicked over to my root partition. Where on the root partition is it so I can delete it and get my space back for apps and whatnot?
[17:32] <Masamune> That's just a random download, same for pretty much everything.
[17:32] <jpds> Masamune: sudo apt-get update
[17:33] <Zeldarock> I'm also having another problem, not as pressing, but annoying: autoresizing VirtualBox to fit my resoltuion
[17:33] <Zeldarock> I've installed Guest Additions, but it will only resize so mux\ch
[17:33] <zulixp> Zeldarock, might be problem with Virtual box videodriver
[17:34] <fafaz> sebsebseb: thanks, but when I install xubuntu-desktop , what will happen to my system ?
[17:34] <Vigo> Agent_Al: I am still looking, what windows are you talking about?
[17:34] <sebsebseb> !xubuntu |  fafaz
[17:34] <defrysk> jigspan, programs like sound-juicer should be a proper cd ripper
[17:34] <Masamune> Another failed to fetch (url)
[17:34] <sebsebseb> fafaz: you get both then,  Gnome and XFCE
[17:34] <sebsebseb> fafaz: and you choose which one to load from the log in screen, as well as set one to be the default
[17:35] <Masamune> I've downloaded pencil (animation program) from their site as a .deb package, and that won't run either.
[17:35] <fafaz> sebsebseb: that's ge8 :)
[17:35] <sebsebseb> fafaz: same thing if  install kubuntu-desktop
[17:35] <torc> Hi. I just installed ubuntu and it will not connect to the internet. It says my Ethernet just disconnects. The internet is working, the hardware works. Both work in Windows. How can I solve this issue? Is there a way to update packages and the kernel from a CD or something?
[17:35] <xiq> wow i'm installing xfce on windows via official repo :D
[17:35] <Zeldarock> it worked perfectly once, but then I noticed that my Virtual Hardrive wan't big enough, so I reinstalled Ubuntu, I reinstalled Guest Additions, and now it will only resize so much
[17:35] <defrysk> jigspan, i personally use grip mostly , but its a matter of preference
[17:35] <Supersaiyan_IV> Masamune, ah I get it, now which version of the live cd did you use?
[17:35] <sebsebseb> fafaz: that's ok yeah, but a bit crappy
[17:35] <sphenxes03> Is it possible to save article in the newsgroups "pan or xpn". I can't saved any article that i read.
[17:35] <sebsebseb> fafaz: you could have like Gnome, and do the others in a virtual machine
[17:35] <Masamune> I think it's 5.04
[17:35] <sebsebseb> fafaz: and then use  two at the same time
[17:35] <Supersaiyan_IV> Masamune, well, that's why
[17:35] <Supersaiyan_IV> Masamune, it is trying to fetch things from old locations
[17:35] <zulixp> Zeldarock, guestadditions is useful for direct file transfer
[17:36] <Masamune> Oh...
[17:36] <sebsebseb> fafaz: and  xubuntu-desktop puts on nice programs like Abiword as well as Thunderbird
[17:36] <Masamune> I r n00b -.-
[17:36] <Petengy> hi to all
[17:36] <rickard> Is there any app for vista that has the same functionality as gnome desktop switching?
[17:36] <Petengy> could someone tell me how to completely remove old installed version of kdenlive ? I'm trying to install the newest version....
[17:36] <Supersaiyan_IV> Masamune, try a later version :P
[17:36] <Masamune> Aha well, secondary problem!
[17:36] <Agent_AL> Vigo - typical tool window for config settings manager in Ubuntu 8.10, I set friction for vobble window style to extremely low value and as a result I got that window away from screen, but it was still open. I was wondering, if there's a chance to get a particular window centered on desktop?
[17:36] <Masamune> Can't install .deb packages I download.
[17:36] <sebsebseb> rickard: I belive there is something for WIndows, but this is Ubuntu suppourt,  and bugger Vista, and it's lack of features
[17:36] <Supersaiyan_IV> Masamune, go to ubuntu.com and get 8.10
[17:37] <DonFruit> the network manager is shit, is there an alternative?
[17:37] <sebsebseb> rickard: you should use Ubuntu more and more :)  and get away from Vista
[17:37] <Masamune> DOn't know if I can, it has to be under 700mb
[17:37] <fafaz> sebsebseb: I can't understand how to use them at the same time .. I understand that virtual machine is an independent machine
[17:37] <xiq> why is no one thinking about a crossplatform OS? like "ma-lin wiener OSxxx" able to execute all 3 big systems files out of the box
[17:37] <sebsebseb> fafaz: yes that's what I mean
[17:37] <Zeldarock> by default I only get 3 resolutions
[17:37]  * jigspan need help
[17:37] <fafaz> sebsebseb: ok then
[17:37] <abe3k> guys, is there anyway of getting the old gnome-system-monitor ?, like from ubuntu 6.x ?
[17:37] <rickard> sebsebseb: I do use ubuntu.. but I have to use a vista desktop too...  and I want that superb function.
[17:37] <sebsebseb> fafaz: your host Ubuntu 8.10 can run Gnome,  where as your virtual machine runs  KDE3  for example
[17:37] <passwordoff> where i should pass the flag "--with-gcc-compat=gcc-4.1"? i do:
[17:37] <passwordoff> 	      ./makedrv, in makedrv: only two make command (with cd
[17:37] <passwordoff> 	      essentially)
[17:37] <torc> Hi. I just installed ubuntu and it will not connect to the internet. It says my Ethernet just disconnects. The internet is working, the hardware works. Both work in Windows. How can I solve this issue? Is there a way to update packages and the kernel from a CD or something?
[17:37] <Dr_willis_AAO> xiq, its been tried and died on several occasions
[17:37] <erUSUL> !ask | jigspan
[17:37] <Zeldarock> but with Guest Additions, I get like 5 others
[17:37] <Supersaiyan_IV> Masamune, it is under 700mb
[17:37] <Vigo> Agent_Al: That is a Compiz or screenlets thing?
[17:38] <dayo> PoetOfShadows: xiq: it's all back to normal. thanks a lot, guys! :-D
[17:38] <sebsebseb> rickard: hummmmmmmm   why do you have to use Vista?
[17:38] <Masamune> I shall check it out, although having said that it should be under 650
[17:38] <Masamune> I shall see!
[17:38] <rickard> sebsebseb: It´s my company laptop..
[17:38] <xiq> Dr_willis_AAO: and what about open source lnx environment on windows featuring mac os skins?
[17:38] <Supersaiyan_IV> Masamune, it fits on a CD :P
[17:38] <sebsebseb> rickard: there's even something like  the  cube in Compiz Fushion for Windohs,  I was annoyed when I saw that on TV
[17:38] <abe3k> guys, is there anyway of getting the old gnome-system-monitor ?, like from ubuntu 6.x ? and install it on interpid ?
[17:38] <DOa> how to i recover fluxbox, i did something wrong with my config ( i cant use the mouse pad)
[17:38] <sebsebseb> rickard:   why coudn't they have showen  Compiz on that program instead :(
[17:38] <Zeldarock> hello?
[17:38] <jigspan> sudo poff dsl-provider cmd cant work
[17:39] <uriol> hola
[17:39] <Agent_AL> Vigo - I guess it is Compiz config window
[17:39] <sebsebseb> rickard: you know the desktop swtiching cube in compiz?
[17:39] <eckesicle> DOa: remove the settings?
[17:39] <uriol> ostras
[17:39] <xiq> or - reverse engineering to get the source code and then compile for linux! yay! my best idea!!
[17:39] <DOa> i cant use the mouse ;(
[17:39] <rickard> sebsebseb: No really
[17:39] <uriol> ayer instale Ubuntu en un ordenador portatil algo viejo que tengo
[17:39] <torc> Hi. I just installed ubuntu and it will not connect to the internet. It says my Ethernet just disconnects. The internet is working, the hardware works. Both work in Windows. How can I solve this issue? Is there a way to update packages and the kernel from a CD or something?
[17:39] <defrysk> abe3k, unlikely due to dependency inconsistencies
[17:39] <uriol> y se ha como jodido
[17:39] <uriol> no se arranca el sistema
[17:39] <DOa> i did try to remove the fluxbox and install but nothing happen;(
[17:39] <uriol> solo sale el escritorio y el raton
[17:39] <Masamune> SuperSaiyan_IV: My disks say 700mb but they are actually 660 or 640 -.-"
[17:39] <zulixp> Zeldarock, via Synaptic Package manager find a videodriver for virtualbox
[17:39] <uriol> ni siquiera sale la foto de fondo del escritorio
[17:40] <ortsvorsteher> !es | uriol
[17:40] <eckesicle> DOa: try in terminal: mv .fluxbox fluxbox-old
[17:40] <sebsebseb> rickard: I could probably like in the magazine,  behind me and find out about a desktop switcher for Windows, but  I  don't like to promote stuff like that
[17:40] <DOa> ok thx
[17:40] <sebsebseb> rickard: look not like,  oh and this is Ubuntu suppourt not Windows suppourt
[17:40] <uriol> excuse me
[17:40] <gumpert345> hi im running a hardy file server and just did testparm which says: Press enter to see a dump of your service definitions      what does that mean?
[17:40] <abe3k> defrysk, I've really had it with the current system monitor its really heavy and power consuming
[17:40] <Supersaiyan_IV> Masamune, because they are are recalculated in MiB :)
[17:40] <uriol> i had installed the ubutnu on a laptop (old)
[17:40] <Vigo> Agent_Al: For most of those affects there is an icon on the taskbar , that lets you configure it, if the icon is gone, then either check to see if it is running...if not , restart the widget
[17:40] <elTigre> I am having trouble with sound input since the change to pulseaudio happened
[17:40] <uriol> the 8.10
[17:40] <rickard> sebsebseb: the gnome swithers is extreme fast
[17:40] <Masamune> Wha...head exploding...
[17:40] <uriol> but didn't appear operating system
[17:40] <uriol> only desktop and the mouse
[17:40] <rickard> sebsebseb: I love it
[17:40] <elTigre> there is nothing recorded....
[17:40] <munk_> help...i have an issue I couldnt find a solution with google for....i have a noname webcam that i cant get to work, it doesnt show in lsusb but it shows that it has been connected when i do dmesg..can someone direct me to how to get ubuntu to see it?
[17:40] <ortsvorsteher> !enter | uriol
[17:41] <uriol> but no desktop picture
[17:41] <defrysk> abe3k, turn it off ?
[17:41] <elTigre> but the hardware/drivers/input/software seems to work
[17:41] <elTigre> except no sound
[17:41] <abe3k> defrysk, and use what ?
[17:41] <Agent_AL> Vigo - oh I see, thanks
[17:41] <Masamune> ubuntu 10.8 DEsktop = 714mb
[17:41] <Zeldarock> ok, im in synaptec now what?
[17:41] <torc> Hi. I just installed ubuntu and it will not connect to the internet. It says my Ethernet just disconnects. The internet is working, the hardware works. Both work in Windows. How can I solve this issue? Is there a way to update packages and the kernel from a CD or something?
[17:41] <sebsebseb> rickard: I got a magazine behind  me with  20 features  that Desktop Linux has that Windows don't, and  then  it does  programs for those features, and I belive desktop switcher was one of them
[17:41] <Masamune> *8.10
[17:41] <Vigo> Agent_Al: Solved?
[17:42] <Zeldarock> what do I do to install the driver from synaptec?
[17:42] <Masamune> Is there any way to lower the amount of size needed on a disk to install a linux live cd?
[17:42] <uriol> Hi !, i had installed the ubutnu on a laptop (old),the 8.10, but didn't appear operating system. only desktop and the mouse. but no desktop picture. What it is the problem ?
[17:43] <bin10101> whats the deal with the latest nvidia drivers on 64-bit?  I add them and then I am stuck with a monitor that's turned off
[17:43] <sebsebseb> Masamune: hard disk?????
[17:43] <Zeldarock> hello?
[17:43] <Masamune> I haven't got one.
[17:43] <sebsebseb> Masamune: you can resize the partitions on your hard disk
[17:43] <ortsvorsteher> !patience | Zeldarock
[17:43] <elTigre> some ubuntu upgrade messed up my sound input... could somebody please help me?
[17:43] <sebsebseb> Zeldarock: which driver/
[17:43] <Masamune> Hard disk= broken
[17:43] <fafaz> sebsebseb: what's the difference between server and desktop edition? I have the desktop edition and want to use it as a server.. web-server, file-server, ftp-server, ... in fedora you can choose packages at installation
[17:43] <Vigo> !grub
[17:43] <sebsebseb> !sound
[17:44] <Zeldarock> videodriver for virtualbox
[17:44] <DOa> how do i change background in fluxbox?
[17:44] <SmoothOp> !video
[17:44] <SmoothOp> !graphics
[17:44] <sebsebseb> fafaz: yep you can get servers in the desktop edition as well
[17:44] <SmoothOp> !drivers
[17:44] <sebsebseb> !lamp |  fafaz
[17:44] <elTigre> sebsebseb: I have done that already
[17:44] <ITechJunkie> DOa: fbsetbg
[17:44] <ortsvorsteher> !bot | SmoothOp
[17:44] <DOa> ok thx
[17:44] <leohartx> Zeldarock: use Vboxguestaddition
[17:44] <fafaz> sebsebseb: I have lamp installed :D
[17:44] <Zeldarock> I did
[17:44] <Supersaiyan_IV> Masamune, download 8.10 burn it to a cd, then try again
[17:45] <Masamune> It's 714mb
[17:45] <sebsebseb> fafaz: not sure what the differences is I guess,  the server edition does not come with  loasd of desktop apps and stuff like that
[17:45] <fafaz> sebsebseb: what else should I do ?
[17:45] <Supersaiyan_IV> Masamune, yes, and it fits on a cd
[17:45] <Masamune> way too big for my puny CD-r's
[17:45] <Zeldarock> it doent have my desired resoltion
[17:45] <elTigre> some ubuntu upgrade messed up my sound input... could somebody please help me?
[17:45] <Supersaiyan_IV> Masamune, it's made to fit a cd
[17:45] <Masamune> *head melt
[17:45] <Supersaiyan_IV> Masamune, 80min CD
[17:45] <sebsebseb> Zeldarock: oh Ubuntu in a VM
[17:45] <Zeldarock> yes
[17:46] <uriol> Please, somebody can Help me ? with my problem ?
[17:46] <torc> Hi. I just installed ubuntu and it will not connect to the internet. It says my Ethernet just disconnects. The internet is working, the hardware works. Both work in Windows. How can I solve this issue? Is there a way to update packages and the kernel from a CD or something?
[17:46] <bin10101> !nvidia
[17:46] <Masamune> Yes I know, I may be being stupid but when I put my CD's in they say they have usable disk space of 660mb
[17:46] <uriol> i am thinking to through the laptop computer to the trash
[17:46]  * defrysk burns isos to rewritable dvd's usually ; all sizes fits one
[17:46] <sebsebseb> uriol: what is your problem?
[17:46] <Masamune> Ubuntu=715mb difference of 57mb's.
[17:47] <Supersaiyan_IV> Masamune, you are using a 750min CD then
[17:47] <Supersaiyan_IV> Masamune, you are using a 75min*** CD then
[17:47] <Vigo> torc: Check the Network Manager, icon near the Date
[17:47] <uriol> Hi !, i had installed the ubutnu on a laptop (old),the 8.10, but didn't appear operating system. only desktop and the mouse. but no desktop picture. What it is the problem ?
[17:47] <Masamune> It say's: "700mb 80min"
[17:47] <DOa> damm its hard to change background, is there a easy way to do that?
[17:47] <Masamune> But it lies.
[17:47] <yaniv> hey
[17:47] <Net^beans> what ?
[17:48] <Zeldarock> how do I get my resolution added?
[17:48] <Vigo> D0a: Right click desktop, go
[17:48] <DOa> damm its hard to change background, is there a easy way to do that? on fluxbox
[17:48] <ortsvorsteher> !language | DOa
[17:48] <axisys> I am keep getting this on my laptop http://pastebin.com/f3b1654d0
[17:48] <puppetmaster> hello everyone
[17:48] <chiliblue> my add & remove doesn't show any packages at all...although synaptic works just fine...any ideas, more of an annoyance than a problem
[17:48] <Supersaiyan_IV> Masamune, follow this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[17:48] <axisys> the ipw firmware keep restarting
[17:48] <Masamune> Thank's I'll check it out.
[17:49] <uriol> sebastien,
[17:49] <puppetmaster> my graphical card doesn't work properly
[17:49] <Masamune> brb
[17:49] <Supersaiyan_IV> Masamune, select the iso image and burn it
[17:49] <puppetmaster> it's ati hd 3200
[17:49] <puppetmaster> with amd procrssor phenome x3 8450
[17:49] <Zeldarock> can somebdoy please help
[17:49] <puppetmaster> it has some moving lines in the screen which I don't know why ?
[17:50] <bin10101> so if the nvidia drivers go to a monitor off screen should I uninstall them or is it just a settings problem that I can fix?
[17:50] <eckesicle> !ask | Zeldarock
[17:50] <puppetmaster> any one has any idea?!!
[17:50] <uriol> it is not this computer
[17:50] <Zeldarock> I did, buty nobody will answer\
[17:50] <Masamune> Is it possible to launch Ubuntu over an ethernet connection?
[17:50] <uriol> it is another one, an old one, i have (5 or 6 years old)
[17:50] <Masamune> From mac OS X 10.2.8 that is.
[17:50] <torc> Vigo: what am I looking for? I clicked it, hit auth eth (again) and it disconnects like usual.
[17:51] <Zeldarock> please, answer my question
[17:51] <Vigo> torc: etho1 or etho?
[17:51] <eckesicle> I don't know.
[17:51] <torc> Vigo: eth1, eth0 is grayed out.
[17:52] <sebsebseb> uriol: you didn't need to pm that
[17:52] <Zeldarock> the ubuntu forums wouldn't be of any assistance, they ignored my thread
[17:52] <Vigo> torc: You are on a wired machine?
[17:52] <Masamune> brb
[17:52] <sebsebseb> uriol: ok  8.10  can  be  rubbishey with  old hardware
[17:52] <sebsebseb> uriol: how much RAM do you have?  what about the graphics card?
[17:52] <torc> Vigo: yes. NIC works fine in Windows.
[17:53] <sanjud> Zeldarock -> rephrase the question here
[17:53] <Vigo> torc: ok, etho1 is default for wired networks, is it DHCP enabled?
[17:54] <pimpmaster> anyone know why apt-get install libssl-dev wont install? I get 404 errors
[17:54] <Zeldarock> I've been tryign resize the window in Virtual Box to my host resolution, but the guest additions didn't completely help
[17:54] <Masamune> Is it possible to overburn an Ubuntu Live CD ISO to a 660mb disk and then still run it as a Live CD?
[17:54] <torc> the network? Yes I believe so. (never had to type in an IP address manually in Windows)
[17:54] <pimpmaster> Err http://archive.ubuntu.com hardy-updates/main libssl-dev 0.9.8g-4ubuntu3.3
[17:54] <pimpmaster>   404 Not Found
[17:55] <Vigo> torc: In the Network Manager is a set of configuration tools, if you are in DHCP, enable and set to that.
[17:55] <xB4S1Cx>  /join ##programming
[17:55] <Zeldarock> please, I've rephrased my question, please help
[17:56] <sanjud> Zeldarock -> we may not have the answer, perhaps another channel like #virtualbox  may have it?
[17:56] <sebsebseb> #vbox
[17:56] <Vigo> torc: here it is on the forums: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=88fc0f323b8c7bb099ce657049ba0270&t=403866&highlight=etho1
[17:56] <sanjud> or yah #vbox
[17:56] <hechu> pimpmaster, try change another repository.
[17:56] <Masamune> I need to know if I can either: Boot Ubuntu over Ethernet from Mac OS X 10.2.8, Reduce the amount of size required by Ubuntu or Overburn ubuntu and still run it as a Live CD?
[17:57] <pimpmaster> hechu where can i find an alternative?
[17:57] <sebsebseb> !netboot |  Masamune
[17:57] <sanjud> Masamune -> you can remaster your livecd removing unwanted fats..
[17:57] <torc> Vigo: I right clicked, went to Edit Connections, and Method: Automatic(DHCP) was already set.
[17:58] <elTigre> some ubuntu upgrade messed up my sound input... could somebody please help me?
[17:58] <elTigre> hm
[17:58] <sanjud> torc -> can you post your ifconfig; iwconfig; cat /etc/network/intertaces; route -n; cat /etc/resolv.conf  contents ?
[17:59] <Masamune> Thanks I'll check it out.
[17:59] <torc> sanjud: yes, give me a few since I must export it to a flash drive and transfer it.
[17:59] <Cyndre> I love my internet - 8 mins to download the ubuntu disc
[17:59] <hechu> pimpmaster, wait, I will find a webpage for you.
[17:59] <Vigo> torc: Ok, did you look at all the other settings, there are like 3 or 4 'pages' or windows. It is best to do in terminal, but that NManager is a pretty handy GUI tool.
[17:59] <sanjud> Cyndre -> curious as to what speed you're subscribed to?
[17:59] <pimpmaster> cheers hechu, doing a little searching myself
[17:59] <Cyndre> sanjud: work for a cable co - have a 40 x 10 mbit/s
[18:00] <RoastedTiresX> Question - My one drive was unplugged accidentally when I ran my rsync script. As a result, the rsync'd data got kicked over to my root partition. Where on the root partition is it so I can delete it and get my space back for apps and whatnot?
[18:00] <Cyndre> sanjud: but only getting 20 down of it
[18:00] <jigspan> mp3 format cant be play on my pc
[18:00] <sanjud> Cyndre -> umm. lets see, the cdrom is about 700Meg byte you're doing 20Meg bit/s..
[18:01] <hechu> pimpmaster, hehe, I remember ubuntu official wiki has some page with screenshot, tell you how change repository, and get upgrade your system.
[18:01] <malikyoda> anyone wanna buy my eee pc $100
[18:01] <jrib> malikyoda: not here please
[18:01] <hechu> pimpmaster, haha, here it is: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[18:01] <Vigo> jigspan: What player are you using?
[18:01] <alanbshepard70> if I have a computer at a remote location and there is a power failure which reboots the machine how can I log back in remotely and not enable insecure automatic login?
[18:01] <malikyoda> LOL, I'm not a bot
[18:01] <Elone> malikyoda, >.> 100?
[18:02] <jigspan> rythembox music player
[18:02] <Elone> malikyoda, that's broken?XD
[18:02] <jrib> malikyoda: I know you're not
[18:02] <malikyoda> no it's in good condition
[18:02] <Cyndre> Sanjud: around 2 MB/s 350 seconds, but it did take time to get up to speed
[18:02] <malikyoda> tired of the small screen
[18:02] <sanjud> alanbshepard70 -> is sshd enabled so you can ssh into it?
[18:02] <torc> Vigo: yeah and they look fine
[18:03] <Vigo> jigspan: Have you gotten all the updates?
[18:03] <jigspan> no
[18:03] <sanjud> Cyndre, thats fast enuff though, i'd like to see these gigaspeed they speak of where one burn an entire dvd in 1 min or less
[18:03] <alanbshepard70> sanjud: I do have sshd installed but I was under the impression I can only use that one my user has already been logged in. I need the remote x session for my user to run.
[18:03] <torc> sanjud: here's what you asked for: http://www.papernapkin.org/pastebin/view/4854/
[18:04] <Othor> alanbshepard70: there may be a setting in your BIOS to turn your computer back on after a power outage
[18:04] <jtaji> alanbshepard70: absolutely not, you don't need to be logged in to the desktop
[18:04] <hechu> malikyoda, which model?
[18:04] <sanjud> alanbshepard70 -> nope, you dont need anyone to be logged in to ssh into it
[18:04] <hechu> !repository
[18:04] <malikyoda> a 701
[18:04] <Cyndre> sanjud: me to - at my desk I have a gigbit connection to our backbone, but only 2 1 gig pipes comming in - 100 meg commited and burst to 250
[18:04] <RoastedTiresX> Question - My one drive was unplugged accidentally when I ran my rsync script. As a result, the rsync'd data got kicked over to my root partition. Where on the root partition is it so I can delete it and get my space back for apps and whatnot?
[18:04] <alanbshepard70> Jtaji, sanjud: ok sweet nevermind, thanks.
[18:04] <Vigo> torc: Hrm, I am stumped now, every install I do runs right out of the box, since Dapper.
[18:05] <hechu> malakhi, oh, a 7 inch screen.
[18:05] <jigspan> what update i need to play music
[18:05] <jtaji> RoastedTiresX: it probably went to where the drive was mounted, /media/something perhaps?
[18:05] <torc> Vigo: I know what you mean; I'm rather confused myself...worked just fine on my laptop...
[18:05] <RoastedTiresX> jtaji - no, it went to my root partition. I know this for a fact because I watched the disk usage and my root partition grew smaller.
[18:05] <sanjud> Cyndre -> we are envious of you with that speed :P
[18:05] <jtaji> RoastedTiresX: the mount point is just an empty directory on your root partition, when you mount something there, the mounted disks contents show up
[18:06] <jtaji> RoastedTiresX: but if you unmount the disk, you can write to that empty directory
[18:06] <RoastedTiresX> jtaji - I have a drive mounting automatically in fstab. As a test, I unplugged it, booted, and ran my script to see wha thappened when the drive wasn't connected.
[18:06] <sanjud> torc -> your system is hosed.. is this a new install? nothing is getting an ip address
[18:06] <jtaji> RoastedTiresX: and what mount point did you set in fstab?
[18:06] <RoastedTiresX> jtaji - I watched my disk usage for my root partition (only 20gb) and it was pushing my 175+gb of data to the root partition. So I rebooted quick. But somehow 6 gig got trasnferred and I watn to find it to delete it.
[18:06] <RoastedTiresX> jtaji - /media/localbackup
[18:06] <sanjud> jtaji -> umm mount point does not have to be empty,
[18:06] <torc> sanjud: yes its fresh from the alternate amd64 install (no defects, I did the check).
[18:07] <jtaji> RoastedTiresX: so look at /media/localbackup when the drive is NOT mounted
[18:07] <jtaji> sanjud: indeed
[18:07] <mostafa> how to install gnash
[18:07] <Cyndre> sanjud: nah, it doesnt do much for anything other then bit torrent, and my desk comp doesnt get more then my home comp
[18:07] <nanotube> mostafa: sudo apt-get install gnash ?
[18:07] <Cyndre> sanjud: as long as you have a 5 mbit connection you are good
[18:07] <sanjud> torc -> i dont have 64bit, but can you also post   sudo lshw -C network ?
[18:08] <Cyndre> sanjud: unless you are a compulsive downloader I guess
[18:08] <alanbshepard70> jtaji: To test the whole ssh without being logged in thing I logged out and tried to ssh back into the server, no dice. I get no route to host, when I logged out it killed my ethernet connection.
[18:08] <sanjud> Cyndre -> thats true, but it seems the other side of the fence is always greener..
[18:08] <tpw_rules> i just upgraded to kernel 2.6.24-23 on my acer aspire one, along with a bunch of other updates, and now it continually spews error messages to the console. in recovery mode it panics because it tried to kill init
[18:08] <jtaji> alanbshepard70: you have some other problem going on then
[18:08] <tpw_rules> anybody have ANY ideas?
[18:08] <RoastedTiresX> jtaji - bingo. You're the man. I have another question for you if you don't mind...
[18:09] <eseven73> when adding a external disk to fstab, do i add it's "*-disk" or "*-volume" logical name? lshw shows it as either *-disk /dev/sdb or *-volume /dev/sdb1
[18:09] <tk8> can i install ubuntu over fedora core 10 and keep my files??
[18:09] <M4d3L> hi. am trying to active my second screen in the nvidia configuration but it not working.
[18:09] <sanjud> tpw_rules -> you are trying to kill init? how come?
[18:09] <munk_> can someone help me install gspca driver on my computer?  lsub wont see my webcam but dmesg sees a usb device being plugged in
[18:10] <Zeroyez> has anyone managed to get ATi's Proprietary Catalyst 9.2 drivers working on Jaunty?
[18:10] <sanjud> eseven73 -> now adays its preferred with UUID, but using the old /dev/sdaX as standby works still
[18:10] <jtaji> Zeroyez: #ubuntu+1 for betas
[18:10] <nanotube> munk_: gspca is installed by default...
[18:10] <tpw_rules> sanjud: no when i boot up using the 2.6.24-23 kernel recovery it panics because it tried to kill init before even the ubuntu logo and progress bar appear
[18:10] <torc> sanjud: Here is the lshw you wanted: http://www.papernapkin.org/pastebin/view/4855/
[18:10] <Zeroyez> ok
[18:10] <eseven73> sanjud: I cant see a UUID though
[18:11] <sanjud> eseven73 -> blkid
[18:11] <munk_> nanotube, well then i cant do modprobe gspca, it says module not found..
[18:11] <eseven73> doh, i forgot bout that command thanks!
[18:11] <jtaji> RoastedTiresX: sure if I know the answer ;)
[18:11] <RoastedTiresX> jtaji - This sparks a problem in the back of my mind. I have my backup drives for redundancy. They rsync data twice a day via crontab. If a drive goes down and dies at some point, and my rsync script kicks into gear, then it will write data to that folder which will then reside with the root directory and max out the directory. Is there any way to avoid that from happening?
[18:11] <Vigo> torc: All I can think of is a reboot to let or allow the ISP to detect it, short of that go over all the forums. Every version I have ran on every box I have has connected to my ISP/LAN straight away. maybe also check the MD5 on that CD.
[18:11] <sanjud> torc -> it doesnt look like the correct drivers got loaded
[18:11] <nanotube> munk_: because gspca has many components, there's no plain "gspca". you could try "gspca_main" for modprobe...
[18:12] <nanotube> munk_: or gspca_whatever-your-webcam-is
[18:12] <munk_> nanotube, ok but then how can i make my webcam show up in lsusb?
[18:12] <sanjud> tpw_rules -> umm can you try with grub option   single  to get into single user mode == recovery
[18:12] <tpw_rules> sanjud: in normal mode it sometimes panics because it tried to kill init, and other times it constantly spews mounds of errors
[18:12] <nanotube> munk_: are you plugging it directly into a usb port, or through a usbhub?
[18:12] <tpw_rules> sanjud: thats when it kernel panics
[18:13] <nanotube> munk_: (because there are sometimes problems detecting the webcam if it's through a usbhub)
[18:13] <tlyng> i just had an unwanted visitor on my remote-desktop, didn't get his ip before he disconnected. Does the remote-desktop/vinagre solution log to someplace?
[18:13] <sanjud> tpw_rules -> even in single user mode it panics?
[18:13] <munk_> nanotube, directly
[18:13] <tpw_rules> for the 2.6.24-23 kernel
[18:13] <tpw_rules> sanjud: other kernels work fine
[18:13] <sanjud> tpw_rules -> i dont know how old that is, try to re-install it?
[18:13] <jtaji> RoastedTiresX: that's a good question, I suppose in your backup script you can parse /etc/mtab to see if it's mounted
[18:13] <torc> sanjud: alright, thats what I thought kind of. I believe I should have nVidia MCP drivers loaded or Marvell, right now when I click on the little icon it says ASUStek. How would I go about removing those and installing the correct ones?
[18:14] <tpw_rules> its the most recent update
[18:14] <nanotube> munk_: well if it doesn't even show up in lsusb, the problem is higher-up in the chain than the kernel module for the cam. does /anything at all/ show up in lsusb when you plug in the cam?
[18:14] <munk_> nanotube, no its directly into the usb in front, i tried the back too.. but no luck..
[18:14] <jtaji> RoastedTiresX: this is one reason at my business I set up a separate backup machine
[18:14] <tpw_rules> sanjud: its the most recent update
[18:14] <sanjud> tpw_rules -> perhaps its too new, for jaunty?
[18:14] <tpw_rules> maybe
[18:14] <RoastedTiresX> jtaji - can you mount drives by UUID via command line and not /dev/sda1? Maybe I could set my script up to mount drives by UUID, and if it fails to mount, maybe it just wont rsync????
[18:14] <torc> sanjud: when I right click and go to connection info, it says for driver: forcedeth
[18:15] <sanjud> torc -> normally you'd look for drivers in /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers
[18:15] <RoastedTiresX> jtaji - Yeah, I was planning on doing that. But this isn't a business. It's a home network. And I felt nice enough to give my mom my old computer (whcih was light years faster than her pc at the time) so there went my dedicated backup machine.
[18:15] <sanjud> torc -> investigate if your nic cards are supported in 64 bits
[18:15] <tpw_rules> sanjud: its running hardy, and i updated it using the software updater. i didnt do something like compile the latest build, i just updated hardy using the gui updater
[18:15] <jtaji> RoastedTiresX: hmm perhaps if you delete the mount point directory, and in your backup script mkdir, then mount, backup, then rmdir
[18:15] <van> someone help me, ubuntu show me few error: Host bridge: nVidia Corporation Unknown device 0071 and a lot of RAM memory: nVidia Corporation Unknown device
[18:15] <van> my video card seem not working fine..
[18:16] <van> someone could help me out with this
[18:16] <RoastedTiresX> jtaji - Hmm... this is turning out to kind of suck...
[18:16] <jtaji> RoastedTiresX: that doesn't really help actually
[18:16] <RoastedTiresX> jtaji - yeah...
[18:16] <smoytra> Can we specify an user + group in fstab type=ext3
[18:16] <RoastedTiresX> jtaji - Isn't there anyway to just command the rsync command to fail if the mount point isnt available?
[18:16] <sanjud> tpw_rules -> i suspect the update screwed it up? did it finish entirely or somehow you have interrupted it?
[18:16] <smoytra> I read on a forum that was a bug in ubuntu 6.06. I'm using 7.04 server... maybe the bug exist again
[18:16] <smoytra> I have hdd in other computer and when I write file on, i dont want use my user and group. I want use a specific user. Can we ?
[18:17] <smoytra> anyone?
[18:17] <unop> RoastedTiresX, you could write a script to detect if a volume is mounted at a given directory.
[18:17] <tpw_rules> sanjud: it finished entirely, but i was fooling with compiz settings while it was updating. also, it was installing like 120 other updates on top of the kernel
[18:17] <sanjud> smoytra -> did you get a chance to read  man fstab?
[18:17] <jtaji> RoastedTiresX: that's the problem, programs generally don't know/care if something is mounted to a directory or not, it's just a directory
[18:17] <munk_> nanotube, yes my mouse shows up and linux foundation root hub
[18:17] <munk_> nanotube, dont know what the root hub is tho..
[18:17] <jtaji> RoastedTiresX: yep I think that's your solution, you need to verify it's mounted
[18:17] <sanjud> tpw_rules -> well, i dont know what you have tinkered with,  reboot to the old and do a new update?
[18:18] <Duddle> hello! is it a known problem, that synaptic is veeeery slow in 8.10? it often takes 3 to 5 minutes to resolve the dependencies (I guess that is what it's doing) for each package
[18:18] <nanotube> munk_: that's "root hub" bits are just empty usb ports.
[18:18] <webPragmatist> Hey guys... I am really trying to get this stupid nvidia driver working... I have a 7800GTS and I installed the drivers from the nvidia website (and also try the 177 drivers)
[18:18] <tpw_rules> sanjud: can i uninstall the new kernel, or just try a new update
[18:18] <webPragmatist> Can someone please help me with a clue?
[18:18] <RoastedTiresX> unop - Hey there. I talked to you earlier. I assume you got my PM? Do you know what command I could run to ensure the drive is mounted before the rsync script runs?
[18:18] <sanjud> Duddle -> or you could be using ipv6 resolver and has to wait til it times out?
[18:19] <nanotube> munk_: so if it doesn't show up in lsusb, no wonder the module doesn't get loaded and your webcam doesn't work... what's your webcam model? i can try looking stuff up on the web...
[18:19] <sanjud> tpw_rules -> you dont have to do anything to get back to the old kernel other than selecting it on grub menu
[18:19] <munk_> nanotube, its a noname:( thats why i have such a hard time finding stuff..
[18:19] <rabbit_ubuntu> Hey guys. Im in a bit of a panic here.....All of a sudden. Im getting no sound from my ubuntu system. Wa da ef? Im trying to play S.O.A.D in rhythmbox and its telling me failed to open output device. And now that I think of it...I didnt hear the startup sounds for Ubuntu either O_O HELP PLEASE!!
[18:19] <Duddle> sanjud: I'll google that, thanks
[18:19] <Masamune> Any tutorials on how to strip down a Ubuntu 8.10 live cd?
[18:19] <tpw_rules> i know
[18:20] <unop> RoastedTiresX, yes, i got your PM - and i responded, but you were gone by then.  gimme a sec.
[18:20] <sanjud> Masamune -> plenty out there, key word to search is  remaster, customize your livecd
[18:20] <tpw_rules> sanjud: i know. so for now, until a new kernel comes out, i should make grub boot to the previous kernel by default
[18:20] <Masamune> cheers
[18:20] <nanotube> munk_: well, does it have anything at all written on it/the box, that you could use as a hook to try to find stuff? :)
[18:20] <denisympa> bonjour à tous
[18:20] <sanjud> tpw_rules -> yes, and you can modify your menu.lst to make your old the default again
[18:20] <nanotube> munk_: further: are you sure it works at all? (I.e., tried it on a windows box?)
[18:20] <tpw_rules> ok
[18:20] <sanjud> !remaster | Masamune
[18:21] <tpw_rules> thanks
[18:21] <munk_> nanotube, no not really:( i bought it off ebay and it didnt even come in a box..
[18:21] <munk_> nanotube, give me a second ill plug it in my laptop see if it sees it and what kind it is..brb
[18:21] <familie_> if a user has no administrive rights ten why does te menu still list programs like synaptic package manager? they can't use it :-s
[18:21] <sanjud> tpw_rules -> yw
[18:21] <pimpmaster> thank you hechu and others, i finally got libssl0dev installed
[18:21] <denisympa> je parle pas beaucoup anglais
[18:21] <rabbit_ubuntu> Hey guys. Im in a bit of a panic here.....All of a sudden. Im getting no sound from my ubuntu system. Wa da ef? Im trying to play S.O.A.D in rhythmbox and its telling me failed to open output device. And now that I think of it...I didnt hear the startup sounds for Ubuntu either O_O HELP PLEASE!!
[18:21] <wolter> is there a way i could make my monitor refresh at 60Hz ??
[18:21] <pimpmaster> no if only i could figure out WHERE it is installed :p
[18:21] <wolter> Iam getting a lot of screen tearing when moving windows
[18:22] <sanjud> familie_ -> understand the difference between rights to read and execute
[18:22] <nanotube> munk_: ok... :)
[18:22] <Vigo> !fr
[18:22] <denisympa> how do you do
[18:22] <torc> sanjud: alright, they are in fact, 64 bit compatible
[18:22] <nanotube> munk_: yea, the random noname webcam off ebay... that makes it tough :)
[18:22] <denisympa> ok
[18:22] <rabbit_ubuntu> wolter: System->Pref->Screen Res
[18:22] <rabbit_ubuntu> wolter: Change the refresh rate there
[18:23] <wolter> rabbit_ubuntu, the only option i get is 50Hz
[18:23] <sanjud> torc -> was there like a 64bit livecd you can try out?
[18:23] <wolter> rabbit_ubuntu, though in vista i have 60Hz
[18:23] <denisympa> bon chat .. amitiés à tous .. bye
[18:23] <Traveler372> I can not get grub to boot my Windows XP partition.  Here is my fdisk -l output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/128417/
[18:23] <rabbit_ubuntu> wolter: Hmm, you have the proper drivers for your vid card?
[18:23] <rabbit_ubuntu> wolter: Or CURRENT I should say
[18:23] <Guest33984> Olá
[18:23] <ohzie> Traveler372, Pastebin your grub.conf
[18:23] <munk_> nanotube, i know but i was short on money and in need of a webcam...so yeah thats what i get when i try to cut corners..
[18:24] <Guest33984> Olá
[18:24] <wolter> rabbit_ubuntu, yes... nvidia 180.11
[18:24] <sanjud> Traveler372 -> post your /boot/grub/menu.lst also
[18:24] <wolter> rabbit_ubuntu, 22 was giving me problems
[18:24] <unop> RoastedTiresX,  is_mounted() { grep -q "$1" /etc/mtab && return 0; }   is_mounted /media/mount_point && echo yes it's mounted
[18:24] <torc> sanjud: well I already installed the 64 bit version on my PC. So it's on there. And I was trying the 64bit liveCD and that gave me nothing as well (internet wise)
[18:24] <rabbit_ubuntu> wolter: YOu tried changing the settings in the control center for the driver?
[18:25] <wassy121> Is there a way to set the "default configuration" in gnome-display-properties?  I want my screens mirrored upon login (as it is a docked laptop).
[18:25] <sanjud> torc -> i dont know what to tell you, i aint got 64bit, so i can not speak from experience..
[18:25] <munk_> nanotube, sorry this might take a few minutes, I dont know why but my ubuntu laptop takes forever to boot, it gets stuck in this one place and it just sits there for 4-5 minutes until it boots...its kind of annoying
[18:25] <Traveler372> sanjud, http://paste.ubuntu.com/128418/ is menu.lst
[18:25] <RoastedTiresX> unop - Isn't there a way to block anything to be read/written to the folders UNLESS a drive is mounted to it? All I need is to somehow block data transmission to those folders when no drive is there. I just can't have it pushing 180gb of data to a 20gb partition. Do you know anything about that?
[18:25] <wolter> rabbit_ubuntu, hm.. let me see
[18:25] <xGeek> Hello gentlement.
[18:25] <xGeek> gentlemen too!
[18:26] <ohzie> Traveler372, I don't see an entry for your windows partition, sir. :3
[18:26] <sanjud> Traveler372 -> you're cheatin  you have Mint not Ubuntu, anyhow, you have to have an entry like those in lines 38 to 42
[18:26] <Traveler372> I have tried different entries; I can paste everything I tried if it would help
[18:26] <Davedan> is it possible to select a line with the keyboard in gedit?
[18:26] <rabbit_ubuntu> Hey guys. Im in a bit of a panic here.....All of a sudden. Im getting no sound from my ubuntu system. Wa da ef? Im trying to play S.O.A.D in rhythmbox and its telling me failed to open output device. And now that I think of it...I didnt hear the startup sounds for Ubuntu either O_O HELP PLEASE!! Help would be appreciated on this
[18:26] <Masamune> Will software for one linux distro work for another or are they all different in what will run?
[18:26] <unop> RoastedTiresX, well.  change the above line accordingly.   is_mounted() { grep -q "$1" /etc/mtab && return 0; }   is_mounted /media/mount_point && rsync ... /path/to/src  /media/mount_point
[18:27] <sanjud> Masamune -> depends, sometimes it requires recompiling or getting the correct package version
[18:27] <RoastedTiresX> unop - Good God I have no idea what command you just gave me. Taht's spanglish to me. haaa
[18:27] <xGeek> I was having problems with unetbootin and was told to 0 out my thumb drive using DD and try again. My question is what filesystem do I need to partition the thumb drive with in order for the live cd to work? ext2 or ext3 would make sense, but if memory serves me correctly it was fat16 before and worked perfectly fine. Apologies for the stupid question.
[18:27] <sanjud> !who
[18:27] <Masamune> Is recompiling easy?
[18:28] <daftykins> yeah the intrepid USB key maker formats it as FAT xGeek
[18:28] <wassy121> xGeek: I use fat32 usually.
[18:28] <unop> Davedan, errm.   HOME, Shift + END
[18:28] <xGeek> Thank you.
[18:28] <Traveler372> sanjud, I get an Invalid device requested error
[18:28] <sanjud> Traveler372 -> huh? what changes you made to provide entries for you ntfs?
[18:29] <wassy121> Masamune:  Recompiling software properly is not easy :(  You have to hope someone else has it properly set up/compiled/packaged for your distro already.
[18:29] <unop> RoastedTiresX, that checks /etc/mtab if there's an entry for the mountpoint and if there is .. does your command.
[18:29] <Masamune> Okay, cheers
[18:29] <sanjud> xGeek -> umm usb drive booting would not work with ext2 ?
[18:29] <sebsebseb> Masamune: all  Desktop Linux's can run the same programs, but they are done in different formats
[18:29] <RoastedTiresX> unop - are those my only options?
[18:29] <sebsebseb> Masamune: well except for like tar and that which is for them all
[18:30] <Traveler372> sanjud, I don't remember exactly, as I was editing from within grub, but it was similar to http://paste.ubuntu.com/128420/
[18:30] <Masamune> Oh ok, I was just wondering if I could use pencil which is for Ubuntu which comes down as a .deb install under SLax
[18:30] <sebsebseb> Masamune: Ubuntu programs are done in Deb,  where as  Redhat is done in RPM
[18:30] <Davedan>  unop: doesn't work
[18:30] <tlyng> does vino-server do any logging? for connection history etc
[18:30] <unop> RoastedTiresX, well, no.  if rsync is run as a user and the mount_point doesn't have a volume mounted at it .. rsync would fail because of permissions issues .. but off course, that doesn't work when rsync is run as root.
[18:30] <sanjud> Traveler372 -> i dont want to guess, either you have the entry correct, i dont want to waste my time
[18:30] <fafaz> guys, anybody know where to find arabic to english dictionary for ktranslator? I have searched with no luck
[18:30] <joanki123> can anyone tell me where i can find the file to enable ssh?
[18:30] <wolter> thanks rabbit_ubuntu, didn't try that before, now i'm on 67hz =D
[18:31] <joanki123> remote access, that is
[18:31] <joanki123> i turned it off because i thought i had been hacked but now i want to turn it back on
[18:31] <sanjud> joanki123 -> install  openssh-server
[18:31] <unop> Dave123,  press the HOME key then hold SHIFT down and press END
[18:31] <joanki123> sanjud, i changed one of my essential files
[18:31] <joanki123> can you tell me how i can find it again
[18:31] <RoastedTiresX> unop - Do I HAVE to run rsync as root? Is that a stupid question?
[18:31] <sanjud> joanki123 -> i dont know what file you changed, try to remember it
[18:32] <wassy121> joanki123: You may have turned off the service in /etc/rc3.d/ .  You may have toggled it in system-admininstration->Services?
[18:32] <joanki123> wassy121, thanks
[18:32] <sanjud> RoastedTiresX -> not stupid, some directory can only be copied by root priviledge if owned by root
[18:32] <rabbit_ubuntu> wolter: No problem man
[18:32] <rabbit_ubuntu> wolter: Thats why your here, to get help eh?
[18:32] <unop> RoastedTiresX, well, that depends .. if the data at the source is owned by the user running rsync, then there's no point in running rsync as root. but if the data at the source is owned by multiple users, then you'd need to run rsync as root. so, it depends
[18:32] <wolter> rabbit_ubuntu, yeah, and to give :p
[18:33] <Masamune> Would programs from ubuntu work under Kubuntu?
[18:33] <nanotube> Masamune: yes
[18:33] <Masamune> ah sweet.
[18:33] <rabbit_ubuntu> wolter: lol, indeed my friend....Indeed....
[18:33] <RoastedTiresX> unop - No, it's just me on my computer. Could I set it up so rsync only runs UNDER Jason and fails if the directories aren't mounted?
[18:33] <van> someone help me setting up my video card in Ubuntu please
[18:33] <Vigo> <<<gives sanjud a cup of java and a soda pop, nice work.
[18:33] <nanotube> Masamune: same goes the other way too. (kde progs working under gnome)
[18:33] <mcai8sh4> whats the best channel for help on python... complete noob needing a little help
[18:33] <Masamune> Cheers
[18:33] <sanjud> Vigo -> am on my 3rd cup of joe today.. :P
[18:34] <musikgoat|main> mcai8sh4: have you tried #python ?
[18:34] <RoastedTiresX> The data I'm copy ing is simply my home directory. I'm rsyncing it from my primary drive to my backup drive mounted automatically in fstab by UUID.
[18:34] <unop> RoastedTiresX, sure. configure the mounted volume to give jason write permissions and run rsync as jason.
[18:34] <Elijah3> 1421!!!! Keeps on growing! Used to be sub 1,000 avg a year or so ago. Over.
[18:34] <sanjud> mcai8sh4 -> try #python
[18:34] <RoastedTiresX> unop - to run it as jason, I simply have to be logged in as jason and not use sudo... right?
[18:34] <unop> RoastedTiresX, if the volume is not mounted .. rsync would fail (permissions)
[18:34] <mcai8sh4> haha - new to irc too. Thanks
[18:34] <wassy121> Masamune: Yeah, the differences between distributions like RedHat versus Ubuntu are large.  However, ubuntu and kubuntu are both built on the "ubuntu base", thus making them and their packages nearly exactly the same.  kubuntu just puts a different face on the GUI.
[18:34] <TheCool> I've noticed a problem lately and was wondering if it is limited to just me, the audio on flash videos are stuck looping. It isn't limited to the type of flash player either, both YouTube and Vimeo have the problem.
[18:35] <unop> RoastedTiresX, well, you can have a cron job do it - then jason doesn't have to be actually logged on.  and yea, no sudo.
[18:35] <Masamune> can Kubuntu be run on an Ibook G4?
[18:35] <sanjud> RoastedTiresX -> you can try to read the man pages for fstab,  and notice the difference between user and users (plural)  as option of mounting
[18:35] <sebsebseb> Masamune:  the old one>?
[18:35] <Masamune> I've got the old Ubuntu I'm looking for a newer one that can run as a Live CD
[18:36] <unop> RoastedTiresX, what filesystem on the backup volume?
[18:36] <mcai8sh4> #python says I need to be identified
[18:36] <Traveler372> sanjud, http://paste.ubuntu.com/128425/ gives me an "Invalid Device Requested" error
[18:36] <RoastedTiresX> unop - EXT3
[18:36] <musikgoat|main> Masamune: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/8.10/release/
[18:36] <sordess> Hi, has anyone experienced a blank screen at boot time?  My system was working fine with 7.x, but not with 8.10.  I have an ATI graphic card.
[18:36] <unop> RoastedTiresX, that's fine then .. just make sure jason has the permissions to write to the volume.
[18:37] <RoastedTiresX> unop - is this what you're recommending? Set up crontab to run my script as jason (not root), and leave fstab as is with auto-moutning my drives by UUID, and then if the drive fails when crontab tells it to rsync and the drive isn't mounted, it'll simply not work... correct?
[18:37] <flippo> Does anything special need to be installed to mount a fat32 usb memory stick?
[18:37] <munk_> nanotube, i cant find it, my other ubuntu box is messed up, apparently theres something wrong with some usb cuz everytime i do dmesg it shows something else (everything related with vc032x and then it says something with unknown sensor)
[18:37] <sanjud> Traveler372 -> thats because you counted wrong  /dev/sda5 is not same as root (0,4)
[18:37] <Masamune> Musicgoat, I can't use that 8.10 is to big for my CD's
[18:37] <flajann>  Is there a way to change the profile of a Gnome terminal from a script? I've been trying to find a way to do this.
[18:38] <nanotube> munk_: hmm... well, i'm going to eat some lunch, then... :) sorry i couldn't be of more help. :|
[18:38] <sanjud> flippo -> none
[18:38] <dr_phd1> Is there any substitute for Visual Studio.Net in Ubuntu? I mean which is almost exactly the same as Visual Studio.Net
[18:38] <wassy121> flippo: no, the fat32 module should be pre-loaded.
[18:38] <Traveler372> sanjud, would it be root(0,5)
[18:38] <unop> RoastedTiresX, right - by virtue of the fact that jason doesn't have the permissions to write to the destination (as it's not mounted) which is owned by root.
[18:38] <RoastedTiresX> unop - didn't work. I just unmounted my backup drive and ran my backup script uatomatically. It started to push the data to the /media/localbackup directory (my mount point for my backup drive) and my root partition started to fill up.
[18:38] <munk_> nanotube, its ok thank you for trying...
[18:39] <flippo> sanjud, wassy121, thanks.  I guess there's a different reason I can't mount one.
[18:39] <wassy121> dr_phd1: Anjuta is a C/C++ IDE.  However, nothing is the same as "Visual Studio .NET", because .NET is all Windows cruft.
[18:39] <sanjud> Traveler372 -> my ooops, its correct,, sda5 is 0,4  im the one that counted wrong, but is that where windows bootable is really?
[18:39] <unop> RoastedTiresX, whose crontab are you calling the rsync script from?  jason's or root's - there's a difference.
[18:39] <nanotube> munk_: good luck...
[18:39] <Masamune> Anyone know any Distro's under 660mb that will run with a Ibook G4 PPC?
[18:39] <wolter> dr_phd1, i recommend geany..
[18:40] <sanjud> flippo -> you have root priviledge while mounting?
[18:40] <RoastedTiresX> unop - I'm not ru nning through crontab right now. I simply executed my script in terminal WITHOUT sudo.
[18:40] <dr_phd1> helloooo... can anyone please reply....
[18:40] <wolter> dr_phd1, supports c, c++, d, python, html, css, ...
[18:40] <dr_phd1>  Is there any substitute for Visual Studio.Net in Ubuntu? I mean which is almost exactly the same as Visual Studio.Net
[18:40] <unop> RoastedTiresX, let's see the permissions on /media/localbackup then.   ls -ld /media/localbackup
[18:40] <wolter> dr_phd1, if you want net, then you are looking for mono develop
[18:40] <LadyInkognito> Hello all together :-)
[18:40] <nightrid3r> dr_phd1 mono
[18:40] <wolter> dr_phd1, what language are you programming in?
[18:40] <RoastedTiresX> drwxr-xr-x 69 jason jason      4096 2009-03-08 14:00 localbackup
[18:40] <unop> RoastedTiresX, also.   grep "/media/localbackup" /etc/mtab
[18:41] <Traveler372> sanjud, I know my windows partition is in sda5 (I can mount it).  Does ntfs have a bootable tag that could get turned off?
[18:41] <LadyInkognito> Does n
[18:41] <flippo> sanjud, haven't quite gotten that far.  Nautilus sees the memory stick and lists its size correct.  But it isn't mounted, and I can't identify the /dev/
[18:41] <RoastedTiresX> that grep command did nothing
[18:41] <LadyInkognito> Does anywhere an german help-channel exist? I'm a new linux/ubuntu user and I need help
[18:41] <Dreamglider-> is there a way i can use the volume buttons on my laptop to controll the PCM slider instead of the Master slider in ALSA mixer?
[18:41] <nightrid3r> !de | LadyInkognito
[18:42] <unop> RoastedTiresX, ok .. your problem now is that jason owns that directory and therefore can write to it .. if there's nothing mounted there, root should own the directory (not jason).
[18:42] <sanjud> Traveler372 -> am not too sure, i dont have windows, so i cant verify it it requires it
[18:42] <RoastedTiresX> unop - So I should chown -R root:jason with 755 rights?
[18:42] <unop> RoastedTiresX,  no...
[18:42] <LadyInkognito> Thank you very much :-)
[18:43] <sylonely> how can I use krousader in root mod
[18:43] <unop> RoastedTiresX, make sure there's nothing mounted at the dir.   sudo umount /media/localbackup; sudo chown root.root /media/localbackup; sudo chmod 755 /media/localbackup;
[18:44] <RoastedTiresX> unop - when I mount the drive to localbackup, would jason have the ability to write then?
[18:44] <unop> RoastedTiresX, now, root owns the directory but when you mount the volume -- you should see jason become the owner.
[18:44] <RoastedTiresX> ahh, okay
[18:44] <RoastedTiresX> lemme test that unop
[18:44] <ShipwreckZombies> I am quite new and attempting having my first go at Linux. I am going to dual boot Vista64 and Ubuntu8.10 - On the download page there is a radio button for 32 or 64 bit. I am confused as to why the 64bit file name has AMD in it?
[18:44] <fafaz> where to find arabic -> english dictionary for ktranslator ?
[18:45] <Myrtti> ShipwreckZombies: it's a legacy naming
[18:45] <ShipwreckZombies> I don't follow?
[18:45] <RoastedTiresX> unop - you were dead on. I'll test an rsync now.
[18:45] <sylonely> pls how can I use my ubuntu in root mod
[18:45] <unop> RoastedTiresX, to change the permissions on the volume itself (not the mountpoint) - mount the volume and change the permissions on the mountpoint .. the changes get recorded on the volume .. when you dismount the volume, the permissions on the mountpoint are reset
[18:45] <RoastedTiresX> unop - but I still have to make sure I DONT use sudo, right?
[18:45] <fafaz> sylonely: use sudo
[18:45] <unop> RoastedTiresX, right, no sudo.
[18:46] <wolter> dr_phd1, mono is for .NET, but I guess you are looking for BASIC.. let me research a little
[18:46] <sylonely> I did it in consol but when it ask for password I cant write password
[18:46] <Martins> hello
[18:46] <Martins> garfild
[18:46] <musikgoat|main> sylonely: its the same password as when you login
[18:47] <ShipwreckZombies> I am running an Intel CPU, does the AMD in the file name not refer to a specific processor type?
[18:47] <sylonely> ye I know it is dont let me to typ it
[18:47] <fafaz> sylonely: use sudo passwd
[18:47] <helper> how to limit the ICMP to prevent Ddos ?
[18:47] <unop> fafaz, sylonely - no, don't do that.
[18:48] <unop> !root | fafaz
[18:48] <sylonely> I use su root
[18:48] <wassy121> ShipwreckZombies: yes, that matters.  With 64bit Intel, you are looking for "x86_64" type packages.
[18:48] <RoastedTiresX> unop - didbnt work. My root partition is maxing out now. How can I stop it?
[18:48] <sylonely> and it ask password but I cant type it
[18:48] <eseven73> where do i check the boot log, it keeps hanging at * Starting kernel log daemon...    [ OK ]
[18:48] <unop> RoastedTiresX, let's see the permissions on the mountpoint again .. make sure the volume is dismounted.
[18:48] <sylonely> it dont let me write anything
[18:48] <fafaz> unop: why? I did that and it works !
[18:49] <musikgoat|main> sylonely: are you sure... password prompts don't give feedback,  as in you are not supposed to see anything when you type
[18:49] <munk_> can someone help me? i have a noname webcam that i cant see on lsusb but dmesg sees that a highspeed usb device is plugged in..
[18:49] <ShipwreckZombies> Wassy121: I thought as much, but the ubuntu.com download page... I'm only seeing two options: 32bit and 64bit
[18:49] <RoastedTiresX> unop - the volume is dismounted. My root partition is maxing out.
[18:49] <nightrid3r> ShipwreckZombies the AMD in the file name is to distinguish between X86_64 and intel itanium
[18:49] <RoastedTiresX> unop - Okay Im aight now, one scond
[18:49] <unop> fafaz, yes it works - but it's not recommended .. unless you want to sit here 24hours a day supporting people with issues that come about after this command.
[18:50] <unop> RoastedTiresX, ls -dl /media/localbackup
[18:50] <sylonely> look i wrote su root
[18:50] <unop> sylonely, what are you trying to do?
[18:50] <sylonely> and then it ask password but I cant type it it dont let me to type
[18:50] <RoastedTiresX> unop - I reset my permissions. the directory when unmounted is owned by root, when mounted its owned by me. I think it should be okay now, but thats how it was before. I dont know what went wrong.
[18:51] <fafaz> unop: OK, so give a reference to why it's not recommended
[18:51] <unop> sylonely, it lets you type the password - it just doesn't echo anything back to the screen.
[18:51] <RoastedTiresX> unop - Doh! I think in my rsync scrip tit says sudo...
[18:51] <sylonely> I want put amsn plugin its folder but I dont have permission
[18:51] <unop> !supportroot | fafaz
[18:52] <RoastedTiresX> unop - yeah, my script has sudo rsync. Should I remove the sudo?
[18:52] <musikgoat|main> sylonely: try this:  gksudo nautilus
[18:52] <unop> RoastedTiresX, yes .. otherwise rsync is run as 'root' - defeating everything you've worked towards.
[18:52] <sylonely> in alt+f2?
[18:52] <musikgoat|main> sylonely: then type password, then move file to where-ever you need.   caution, that file manager has root access
[18:53] <musikgoat|main> sylonely: or in the terminal, but yeah,  alt+f2
[18:53] <RoastedTiresX> unop - bingo. Everything is failing now due to permission denied.
[18:53] <ShipwreckZombies> On the Ubuntu.com download page there are only options for 32 or 64bit processors. I have an Intel Dual Core which has Vista64 currently running on it - When I hit the 64bit radio button I am given the file 'ubuntu8.10-desktop-amd64.iso' Is this correct?
[18:54] <sylonely> yes in terminal when ı use password it dont show but I typed it it said permission problem
[18:54] <musikgoat|main> ShipwreckZombies: 64-bit PC (AMD64) install/live DVD  Choose this to take full advantage of computers based on the AMD64 or EM64T architecture (e.g., Athlon64, Opteron, EM64T Xeon, Core 2). If you have a non-64-bit processor made by AMD, or if you need full support for 32-bit code, use the Intel x86 images instead.
[18:54] <njbair> what happened to my /dev/hd* devices for my IDE cdrom drives? I can't run hdparm on the scd* devices.
[18:54] <unop> sylonely, the root account is locked by default on ubuntu - that's why you cannot use su to become root.
[18:54] <flippo> I was able to mount my usb memory stick by hand, after finding the device with sg_utils.  I was expecting Nautilus to do this for me, somehow.
[18:55] <RoastedTiresX> unop - So what this basically ensures is that in order for the script to work, the drives have to be actively mounted to the proper directories. If they are not, the permissions on the directory changes and the permissions block me from rsyncing.
[18:55] <unop> sylonely, if you tell us what you want to do.. we'll help with a workaround.
[18:55] <unop> RoastedTiresX, precisely
[18:55] <sylonely> Can I open it then that lock
[18:55] <musikgoat|main> unop: he's trying to drop an amsn plugin
[18:55] <RoastedTiresX> unop - Now, what did you say earlier about if I had multiple users here that it wouldnt work. What was that about?
[18:56] <crx686> I'm having trouble getting my wireless card to work, I'm using ndsiwrapper and everything went fine it installed fine the device is present it shows up in network tools and ifconfig says it is up and running but i still can't connect to my router. I tried manually i tried it on automatic it seems to see it but nothing is happening any one can help me?? thnaks
[18:56] <unop> RoastedTiresX, well, if jason cannot read into karen's home directory due to permissions issues - rsync will fail (obviously) - does that make sense?
[18:56] <RoastedTiresX> unop - ohhh, yeah. I got that.
[18:56] <timmy> when getting new sources, should i get "deb" or "deb-src"?
[18:56] <ShipwreckZombies> smikgoat|main: Is it a bit of a confusing naming convention? I am quite baffled, it seems backwards
[18:56] <SmoothOp> :( the i810 driver doesn't work with 8.10
[18:56] <musikgoat|main> timmy: deb
[18:56] <RoastedTiresX> unop - So if karen was on my system, there'd be no way for me to rsync her directory AT ALL using this method??
[18:57] <Guest80079> musikgoat: thanks
[18:57] <rabbit_ubuntu> Later guys
[18:57] <zleap> by sources do you mean source code or binary packages
[18:57] <sizzlefire> Hello
[18:57] <RoastedTiresX> unop - Ig uess the only way using this method that her directory could be rsync'd too would be if she would be logged in and run the script herself.
[18:57] <unop> RoastedTiresX, that's when you have to be root .. root can read everyone's files. but root can also write anywhere .. so you'd have to use another way to ensure that the volume is actually mounted before running rsync.
[18:57] <musikgoat|main> ShipwreckZombies: the 64 bit architecture was implemented first by AMD,  but your right,  they should change that
[18:57] <unop> RoastedTiresX, you can have a separate cronjob for karen - that'd work.
[18:58] <RoastedTiresX> unop - I see. that makes sense. That's when I'd have to use your other method, right?
[18:58] <ShipwreckZombies> Oh! Someone mentioned earlier is was a legacy naming convention, so I guess that makes sense
[18:58] <unop> RoastedTiresX, but imagine you had 20 users - it starts to become cumbersome
[18:58] <unop> RoastedTiresX, yes
[18:58] <RoastedTiresX> unop - It's no big deal with me, Im the only one that uses my computer, so that's not a problem. But I'd like to be aware of any issues if that would be the case.
[18:58] <RoastedTiresX> unop - thanks for your help!!
[18:58] <pmcclelland> I'm having a problem with samba
[18:58] <kitche> musikgoat|main: what they should change x86_64 name? no clue why ubuntu uses the amd64 name instead of the x86_64 though
[18:58] <pmcclelland> I can't see my windows shares
[18:58] <pangloss> hey all, problem installing ubuntu 8.10 on a low ram machine with a USB stick. I was wondering if anyone knows what the name of the "command line install" package that the alternate cd uses? i would like to just install that to the liveUSB rather than redo the key with the alternate cd. Anyone know the name of the package (if its a package)
[18:59] <bruce89> kitche: why bother changing it?
[18:59] <unop> RoastedTiresX, well, it's simple if you check if the volume is actually mounted -- from the output of the 'mount' command or in /etc/mtab.
[18:59] <sixty_four> hi, i just installed Ubuntu and everything worked fine. I installed the latest ati drivers and nearly 250 updates. But when i rebooted, it got as far as the login screen and the display went garbeled and unusable
[18:59] <sylonely> thanks all with gksudo I solve it see ya later
[18:59] <ShipwreckZombies> Thanks for the help everyone, hopefully i'll see you on here again from Ubuntu shortly
[18:59] <RoastedTiresX> unop - do you have a guide I could read up on that? I'm about to head out but I'd like to read it up later...
[18:59] <zilleplus> does annyone know how to install moodle on ubuntu server i can't get it on it
[19:00] <unop> RoastedTiresX, errm .. well, it's a simple shell command - so i guess you want a shell scripting guide .. I recommend  http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide
[19:00] <musikgoat|main> bruce89: because of situations like this where people think that their intel _64 bit proc isn't supported
[19:00] <TooR4u> Hi  friends, I am designing a new application layer protocol like (Http&ftp). And i want to register my project under GPL public license. Do i need to register some where to do this ?
[19:00] <RoastedTiresX> unop - Wghats the command called? to check mounts?
[19:00] <jamnz> Hello.
[19:00] <bruce89> musikgoat|main: that's what Debian call it too
[19:00] <unop> RoastedTiresX,  mount
[19:00] <sebsebseb> jamnz: hello
[19:01] <musikgoat|main> bruce89: so maybe it should be a universal nomenclature change
[19:01] <unop> RoastedTiresX,  so to check if  /media/localbackup is in the output of the mount command. you would do.   mount | grep "/media/localbackup"
[19:01] <bruce89> musikgoat|main: Debian ports don't change names
[19:01] <RoastedTiresX> unop - If it is not mounted, would it block rsync in the next command in my script?
[19:02] <sizzlefire> i have a bit of a problem, i was hoping sombody could assist, I have ubuntu installed on my laptop, however whenever it boots, it will go through the loading screen, however after that it just goes to a black screen and stays there
[19:02] <bruce89> musikgoat|main: it could require changing huge numbers of packages
[19:02] <jamnz> I need help with getting Vino VNC Server to start automatically on Ubuntu 8.10. I also want to be able to see all desktops; each user of ubuntu machine. How do I configure this to start upon boot, and access any desktop? Thanks!
[19:02] <zilleplus> sudo wget http://download.moodle.org/stable19/moodle-latest-19.tgz does not go anny more annyone knows a other link
[19:02] <unop> RoastedTiresX, it depends on how you structure the script then
[19:02] <zilleplus> sudo wget http://download.moodle.org/stable19/moodle-latest-19.tgz does not go anny more annyone knows a other link
[19:02] <jrib> zilleplus: moodle is in the repositories.  Use APT
[19:02] <RoastedTiresX> unop - I was assuming itd be 2 commands, with rsync right afterwards on the line below
[19:02] <zilleplus> jrip wath do you mean??
[19:02] <jamnz> there must be a vino config file I can configure, correct?
[19:02] <jrib> zilleplus: do you know what APT is?
[19:02] <zilleplus> no
[19:03] <jrib> zilleplus: how about synaptic?
[19:03] <zilleplus> no just beginner lol
[19:03] <musikgoat|main> bruce89: yeah, i guess its pretty difficult to accomplish that, i still think it should be done, on a release...  there could be symlinks to .amd64 such and such
[19:03] <unop> RoastedTiresX,   if  mount | grep -q "/media/localbackup"; then  echo "/media/localbackup appears to be mounted"; rysnc ...; fi
[19:03] <jrib> !software | zilleplus
[19:03] <zilleplus> are they the sama as moodle??
[19:03] <bruce89> musikgoat|main: that's not what I mean
[19:03] <tony426> you guys think in 2012 Gnome will be able to let you set the mouse scrolling speed?
[19:03] <aboucher> can someone help me dual boot 2 hard drives
[19:03] <zilleplus> yea but i need moodle
[19:03] <RoastedTiresX> unop - okay, sounds good. Ill stick with what I got since it works and nobody else uses myc omputer. Thanks again for your help!!
[19:04] <zilleplus> http://docs.moodle.org/en/Step-by-step_Install_Guide_for_Ubuntu
[19:04] <bruce89> musikgoat|main: all /debian/control files which had amd64 would have to be fixed
[19:04] <jrib> !attitude | tony426
[19:04] <musikgoat|main> bruce89: ahh
[19:04] <aboucher> can someone help me dual boot 2 hard drives
[19:04] <bruce89> musikgoat|main: not that there's many of them
[19:04] <bruce89> musikgoat|main: only  a few thousand
[19:05] <tony426> !canttakeajoke | jrib
[19:05] <musikgoat|main> :-P
[19:05] <jrib> tony426: please don't
[19:05] <sizzlefire> can anybody help, ill try to not take too much of your time :P
[19:05] <tony__> Anyone here able to help me out with a checkpoint client?
[19:06] <musikgoat|main> !ask | sizzlefire
[19:06] <sizzlefire> sorry, i asked it and nobody said anything, so i wanted to make sure it was alright
[19:06] <jrib> !away > andyh2|away
[19:06] <tony426> seriously, has anyone figured out how to change the mouse wheel speed? tired of googling
[19:06] <sizzlefire> I have ubuntu installed on my laptop, however whenever it boots, it will go through the loading screen, however after that it just goes to a black screen and stays there
[19:07] <NDS|Brandon> Hello, I have a question. I am using Wubi, while I wait for my Disk to arrive in the mail, but when I boot up it comes into a grub4dos screen, and I cannot get it to load.
[19:07] <NDS|Brandon> What do I type?
[19:07] <shrini> Need a download manager in shell
[19:07] <shrini> wget throws error on https sites
[19:07] <musikgoat|main> shrini: apt
[19:07] <erUSUL> !wget
[19:07] <shrini> wget is not working with https sites
[19:07] <musikgoat|main> shrini: sorry, mis-read what you typed
[19:08] <shrini> ﻿musikgoat|main: its ok
[19:08] <ganymede> is curl a command line http(s) downloading thingy?
[19:08] <bruce89> ganymede: yes
[19:08] <NDS|Brandon> Hello, I have a question. I am using Wubi, while I wait for my Disk to arrive in the mail, but when I boot up it comes into a grub4dos screen, and I cannot get it to load. What do I type in to get the kernel then the OS to load?
[19:09] <corey> How do I format my flash drive
[19:09] <erUSUL> corey: with gparted for example
[19:10] <supersasho> corey: or mkfs in console
[19:11] <shrini> ﻿corey:  sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/<flash-frive-name>
[19:11] <unop> ganymede, yes
[19:11] <shrini> any other CLI download tools?
[19:11] <NDS|Brandon>  Hello, I have a question. I am using Wubi, while I wait for my Disk to arrive in the mail, but when I boot up it comes into a grub4dos screen, and I cannot get it to load. What do I type in to get the kernel then the OS to load?
[19:11] <unop> shrini, you need to set wget options to get it to work over HTTPS
[19:11] <gnychis> are there any instructions on how to install the newest stable kernel (2.6.28.7) with ubuntu?
[19:11] <corey> gparted cant see my flash drive
[19:11] <unop> shrini, see the wget manpage
[19:12] <Masamune> Hey I'm running 5.04 and have tried to install Pencil (animation software) when I try to run it I just get a new window with 2 tar.gz files and a debian binary, anyone know why this would happen?
[19:12] <shrini> unop: --no-check-certificate
[19:12] <shrini> unop : but
[19:12] <shrini> unop: still error
[19:12] <shrini> unop: WARNING: Certificate verification error for <sitename>: unable to get local issuer certificate
[19:12] <erUSUL> Masamune: 5.04 ?? that's ancient....
[19:13] <eseven73> what should the default /var/ directories permissions be?
[19:13] <erUSUL> Masamune: it may be a self extracting copressed file of the type shar they end up in .sh and can be confused with shel scripts
[19:14] <jamnz> join #vino
[19:14] <musikgoat|main> eseven73: a mix of 755 and 777, owned by root it seems
[19:14] <unop> eseven73, it's variable
[19:14] <upgrdman> how do i determine the UUID of a partition?
[19:14] <Karlos> hello, can someone help me to install a bin file please
[19:14] <NDS|Brandon>  Hello, I have a question. I am using Wubi, while I wait for my Disk to arrive in the mail, but when I boot up it comes into a grub4dos screen, and I cannot get it to load. What do I type in to get the kernel then the OS to load?
[19:15] <erUSUL> Karlos: what are you trying to install?
[19:15] <jamnz> hhmm.. anyone know how i can get vino-server to start automatically and how i can have vnc access to any desktop? Thank you.
[19:15] <eseven73> hmmm ok cause i kinda screwed up and recursively did 777 on /var  now cant boot
[19:15] <eseven73> :(
[19:16] <eseven73> now boot get hung at * Starting kernel log daemon   [ OK  ]
[19:16] <musikgoat|main> jamnz: ubuntu has remote desktop settings in system -> preferences,  enable that, and you've got vnc serving
[19:16] <bruce89> jamnz: should anyway
[19:16] <leandro> hi
[19:16] <Othor> Karlos: see if this helps http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=233309
[19:17] <leandro> i need help with poxy server
[19:18] <crx686> I'm having trouble getting my wireless card to work, I'm using ndsiwrapper and everything went fine it installed fine the device is present it shows up in network tools and ifconfig says it is up and running but i still can't connect to my router. I tried manually i tried it on automatic it seems to see it but nothing is happening any one can help me?? thanks
[19:18] <helper> anyone know in ip route need help
[19:18] <jamnz> ok. i do have remote desktop enabled. however, i do not know if it applies to all user acounts.??? Meaning, it is running now on my user ID. but if I log off, and Jane logs on, will I have access to her desktop?
[19:19] <bruce89> jamnz: no
[19:19] <jamnz> ok
[19:19] <NativeAngels> i have downloaded an installer how do i execute it
[19:19] <NativeAngels> from shell
[19:19] <NDS|Brandon>  Hello, I have a question. I am using Wubi, while I wait for my Disk to arrive in the mail, but when I boot up it comes into a grub4dos screen, and I cannot get it to load. What do I type in to get the kernel then the OS to load?
[19:19] <NDS|Brandon>  Hello, I have a question. I am using Wubi, while I wait for my Disk to arrive in the mail, but when I boot up it comes into a grub4dos screen, and I cannot get it to load. What do I type in to get the kernel then the OS to load?
[19:20] <bruce89> !repeat | NDS|Brandon
[19:20] <helper> anyone know in ip route need help
[19:20] <musikgoat|main> NativeAngels: depends on what the installer is, what are you trying to install?
[19:20] <NativeAngels> for plesk
[19:20] <NDS|Brandon>  Hello, I have a question. I am using Wubi, while I wait for my Disk to arrive in the mail, but when I boot up it comes into a grub4dos screen, and I cannot get it to load. What do I type in to get the kernel then the OS to load?
[19:20] <ccchatzilla> I'm trying to convert an RPM package I downloaded from http://packman.links2linux.org/package/223 into a DEB package with alien, and it's giving me this error message several times "Header V3 DSA signature: NOKEY, key ID 9a795806", any idea how to proceed?
[19:20] <bruce89> !repeat | NDS|Brandon
[19:21] <coincoin161> i have a very old machine : 32 RAM, pentium 75, 1200MB hd
[19:21] <coincoin161> except DSL, what could i install on it ?
[19:21] <coincoin161> It has a HP ethertwist EISA card, is it supported in linux, *BSDs ?
[19:21] <leandro> oi
[19:21] <[T]ank> can anyone recommend a tool to search my internal network for devices with a specific port open? I was thinking wireshark but I cannot see how to search for other devices by open port
[19:21] <leandro> pode me ajudar?
[19:22] <bruce89> coincoin161: very little
[19:22] <sanjud> [T]ank-> look into lsof
[19:22] <zlr> [T]ank: nmap
[19:22] <ScottG489> if [ $BATTERY -lt $i -a $BATTERY -ge ( $i - 5 ) ]             Is putting that $i - 5 in parenthesis right? I basically want to be able to compare to the value that is returned from the value of $i and then subtracting 5
[19:23] <leandro> alguem que fala portugues?
[19:23] <wanttotryubuntu> i am at the end of my wits, i cannot make live cd work ..
[19:23] <tony__> Anyone here able to help me out with a checkpoint client?
[19:23] <Gnea> !pt | leandro
[19:23] <coincoin161> bruce69: yes i know
[19:23] <coincoin161> but DSL works fine on it except it does not find eth0
[19:23] <Gnea> wanttotryubuntu: what's your system specs?
[19:24] <NDS|Brandon> :|
[19:24] <x409> does ubuntu 8.1 can support 'N' wireless pci adaptor ?
[19:24] <zlr> ScottG489: if that's bash you need to use expr, backticks or (( $i + 1 ))
[19:24] <wanttotryubuntu> gnea, intel quad core processor , intel original mobo dp45sg , 2gb ram, sata 1 HD 500gb, sata dvd writer
[19:24] <sanjud> x409-> dont know, but is N backward compatible to 802.11abg ?
[19:25] <x409> yep
[19:25] <bruce89> !tab | coincoin161
[19:25] <sanjud> x409-> look for the driver that supports it
[19:25] <ScottG489> zlr: test: line 15: syntax error near unexpected token `('
[19:25] <NDS|Brandon> can I restate myquestion now?
[19:25] <NDS|Brandon> :s
[19:25] <the_real_player1> coincoin you could install ubuntu 6.04
[19:25] <zlr> ScottG489: bash ? sh ? ksh ?
[19:25] <Gnea> wanttotryubuntu: then it should work. where is it failing?
[19:26] <the_real_player1> or earlier
[19:26] <ChrisULM> im trying to play a jumptv video stream and it says i need to update to the newest version of WMP before i can watch. Is there a way around this?
[19:26] <bruce89> the_real_player1: 6.06
[19:26] <the_real_player1> yes, thanks
[19:26] <bruce89> but even that is pushing it
[19:26] <yorky501> quick one....... where do you manage start up programs in ubuntu???
[19:26] <coincoin161> my apologies i didn't know
[19:26] <ChrisULM> "your wmp is an old version. Please update"
[19:26] <bruce89> and it is to EOL soon
[19:26] <wanttotryubuntu> gnea, okies, this is my FIRST time at linux, i downloaded and burnt 13 media till now, everthing from 4x to 16x .. NEVER max 52x ..
[19:26] <ScottG489> zir: yea bash, sorry
[19:26] <_natschil> hello, what is the easiest way to edit the starting order of initscripts?
[19:27] <Gnea> wanttotryubuntu: 13?!
[19:27] <wanttotryubuntu> i386 versions, AMD 64 versions, all alternative versions, all dump me to busybox
[19:27] <zlr> yorky501: system, admin, services
[19:27] <NDS|Brandon>  Hello, I have a question. I am using Wubi, while I wait for my Disk to arrive in the mail, but when I boot up it comes into a grub4dos screen, and I cannot get it to load. What do I type in to get the kernel then the OS to load?
[19:27] <yorky501> cheers zlr
[19:27] <bruce89> !repeat | NDS|Brandon
[19:27] <Gnea> wanttotryubuntu: okay. let's concentrate on AMD64 then, since you clearly have a 64-bit system.
[19:28] <Gnea> wanttotryubuntu: btw, did you build this system from scratch by yourself or did you buy it pre-built?
[19:28] <magcius> Why does the manpage for SSH say it's a BSD command?
[19:28] <NDS|Brandon> :s that wasnt fast
[19:28] <wolter> hi
[19:28] <wanttotryubuntu> gnea, i went to hardware store, bought the parts, got it assembled there, got 2 systems with EXACT same specs ..one mine, one friend's
[19:29] <wolter> can i give more than one uid to a partition on ubuntu?
[19:29] <maverick340> can i mask or hide my IP in some way so the server wont know my Ip address ?
[19:29] <ZykoticK9> magcius, SSH is made by the people who make OpenBSD
[19:29] <bruce89> !uuid
[19:29] <Gnea> wanttotryubuntu: got it assembled there?
[19:29] <wanttotryubuntu> gnea yes
[19:29] <magcius> ZykoticK9, you mean OpenSSH, right?
[19:30] <maverick340> use some form of random free IP address perhaps , becasue DHCP assign us the IPs
[19:30] <Iceman_B^Ltop> is there a way to make a whole disk encrypted in Ubuntu? I want to mount a 250 GB drive into the filesystem but make every file that goes on there encrypted
[19:30] <wanttotryubuntu> gnea and everything works PEFECTLY a my friend's place
[19:30] <wanttotryubuntu> gnea it haunts me what goes wrong at my place
[19:30] <ZykoticK9> magcius, ok yes the people that make OpenBSD make OpenSSH
[19:30] <Iceman_B^Ltop> what possibilities do I have to recover the data if I ever take that drive out of my system and install it in another pc?
[19:30] <magcius> Ah, okay. So OpenSSH is under MIT/X11/BSD License?
[19:30] <Gnea> wanttotryubuntu: ah ok, so it was pre-built.  well, let's forget about your friend's computer for now and see what's up with yours.
[19:31] <yaniv> is pigdin the only chat client for ubuntu ?
[19:31] <sebsebseb> yaniv: no
[19:31] <sebsebseb> !im
[19:31] <yaniv> !im
[19:31] <bruce89> yaniv: I'm using xchat-gnome
[19:31] <Gnea> wanttotryubuntu: are you on IRC from the same computer right now or a different one?
[19:31] <duffy> um, whats the top/bottom screens of the cube called? skydome?
[19:31] <sebsebseb> yaniv: Kopete is another multi protocall and then for just MSN,    AMSN and Kmess.  and for ICQ,  LICQ
[19:31] <yaniv> ok will try it oout
[19:31] <stealth-> Iceman_B^Ltop: Full disk encryption isnt very secure, depending on what you need it for. Its not really full disk encryption, there has to be a part thats not encrypted for the system to start. See http://snuxoll.com/dropbox/Papers/linux_security.pdf for more info.
[19:32] <bruce89> yaniv: be aware it's a KDE program
[19:32] <sebsebseb> yaniv: I don't like Kopete
[19:32] <wanttotryubuntu> sebsebseb hello
[19:32] <wanttotryubuntu> sebsebseb  still cant get out of busybox
[19:32] <sebsebseb> yaniv: Kopete always seems to do weird stuff with my accounts
[19:32] <bruce89> !empathy
[19:32] <Othor> duffy: caps
[19:32] <sebsebseb> wanttotryubuntu: ok  uhmmmmm
[19:33] <stealth-> Iceman_B^Ltop: as for your other question, you should be able to get the data off the drive as long as you still know the encryption key, and you have the program you used to encrypt the drive on the new machine.
[19:33] <sebsebseb> wanttotryubuntu: you can try the Live CD for another Linux distribution, but we shoudn't talk to much about those here
[19:33] <stealth-> !anything
[19:33] <stealth-> lol
[19:33] <sebsebseb> wanttotryubuntu: also something is weird with your computer, becuase Ubuntu should boot up on it
[19:34] <sebsebseb> wanttotryubuntu: if you have Windows on it though,  you could do Ubuntu with wubi,  I woudn't normally recommend wubi, but in your case it could be good
[19:34] <duffy> Othor, thx.. is there one installed somewhere as a default?  its not set up to use one, jsut wondered if compiz ships an image
[19:34] <sebsebseb> wanttotryubuntu:  wait no you will probably get busybox there to nevermind
[19:34] <Gnea> sebsebseb: that's what I was trying to work with him with, but clearly he's too upset to solve the problem
[19:34] <wanttotryubuntu> sebsebseb windows is as we all know a crybaby .. if something was wrong with my hardware, windows would crib everytime i tried to install / boot it
[19:34] <sebsebseb> Gnea: you were trying to do what?
[19:34] <Othor> duffy:  yes, i think there is a default image that compiz uses for the caps
[19:35] <Gnea> sebsebseb: read scrollback
[19:35] <ZykoticK9> !women
[19:35] <sebsebseb> wanttotryubuntu: no, because Windows has much better hardware suppourt, than Ubuntu
[19:35] <sebsebseb> wanttotryubuntu: ,because Windows has most of the market for the desktop
[19:35] <yaniv> im on crunchbang
[19:35] <yaniv> thats gnome
[19:35] <bruce89> sebsebseb: that's not quite true
[19:35] <yaniv> or openbox
[19:35] <sebsebseb> wanttotryubuntu: and so every PC manufacture has to suppourt Windows properly,  where as they can get away  with not suppourting Ubuntu properly
[19:35] <Gnea> sebsebseb: what?
[19:35] <Gnea> !ot | sebsebseb
[19:35] <yaniv> so kopete wud have issues
[19:36] <wanttotryubuntu> sebsebseb i am still hell bent on 2 facts .. a) my system is very latest but not later than around 6 months after the AMD 64 version i downloaded ... b) this works on identical hardware of my friend's pc
[19:36] <bruce89> sebsebseb: quite a few manufacturereers support Linux
[19:36] <Stupendoussteve> yaniv: QT programs run fine in gnome and gnome-derived things
[19:36] <mikubuntu> i don't know what gives, firefox wants to save every file instead of opening with application upon download ... is this a firefox prob or could it have to do with os?
[19:36] <sebsebseb> bruce89: sure, but not as well as Windows in that case
[19:36] <Gnea> wanttotryubuntu: perhaps the bios settings are different
[19:36] <Ikelos234> Quick question:  If installing a file from source, to where should we move the folder containing the make and install files, BEFORE installing from source?
[19:36] <bruce89> sebsebseb: not neccessarily
[19:37] <wanttotryubuntu> Gnea .. i tried that too .. i phoned him to confirm that bios ID strings are the same
[19:37] <Gnea> sebsebseb: that's not supporting Ubuntu very well. who are you?
[19:37] <Guest57879> HELP I just instaleld Ubuntu 8.10 on an Acer One netbook. I got wireless drivers running fine (madwifi), but when I ran the update manager one of the updates must have broken my wireless driver and I dont know what to do now. Help??
[19:37] <sebsebseb> wanttotryubuntu: indeed  your BIOS uhmmmmm  maybe you could even put on hardware virutalization supourt if it has it, and then the Live CD works
[19:37] <wanttotryubuntu> Gnea more over EVERY bios setting is EXACTLY the same
[19:37] <Gnea> wanttotryubuntu: okay. btw, you still haven't answered my question. :)
[19:37] <acerone> HELP I just instaleld Ubuntu 8.10 on an Acer One netbook. I got wireless drivers running fine (madwifi), but when I ran the update manager one of the updates must have broken my wireless driver and I dont know what to do now. Help??
[19:38] <madadam> Hi guys. Myy vlc doesn't work http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/128450/
[19:38] <the_real_player1> what motherboard would you buy for a new ubuntu box?
[19:38] <Gnea> !repeat | acerone
[19:38] <bruce89> Gnea: you don't have to like Ubuntu to be here you know
[19:38] <wanttotryubuntu> Gnea scrolled up .. no bios settings are different ... scrolling further up for questions missed
[19:38] <bruce89> the_real_player1: any you like
[19:38] <hollywoodb> acerone: try booting the previous kernel at the initial kernel selection screen and let us know if that works
[19:38] <Iceman_B^Ltop> stealth-: thanks
[19:38] <the_real_player1> which one do you like?
[19:38] <zlr> ScottG489: sorry for the lag $(($i-5)) will work
[19:38] <Stupendoussteve> the_real_player1: Depends what you want to do. Intel is very well supported, but is not necessarily considered 1337 games
[19:38] <Stupendoussteve> *gamer
[19:39] <Iceman_B^Ltop> does ubuntu have native encryption, like windows does? or do I really need to use a 3rd party tool
[19:39] <acerone> hollywoodb:  it didnt update the kernel
[19:39] <Gnea> bruce89: then what's the point of being here?
[19:39] <stealth-> Iceman_B^Ltop: no problem.
[19:39] <hollywoodb> acerone: what did it update?
[19:39] <wanttotryubuntu> Gnea sorry request to repeat your question
[19:39] <Stupendoussteve> Iceman_B^Ltop: Everything above the kernel is third party. Look at truecrypt
[19:39] <bruce89> Gnea: when you have been using Ubuntu as long as I have, you'll understnad
[19:39] <the_real_player1> and how about graphic board?
[19:39] <Iceman_B^Ltop> I want to use the drive as a backup and also a fileshare for my housemates, I;d liek everything encrypted just-in-case, but especially my backups
[19:39] <acerone> hollywoodb: i dont know. it was a fresh isntall so there were like 300 package updates.
[19:40] <manpreet21nov> hey ...
[19:40] <gusibad> hi all someone can help me, i´m installed a xubuntu on my Desktop, but my video card is not configure yet
[19:40] <Gnea> wanttotryubuntu: no problem.  are you on IRC from the same computer or do you have a second computer to irc from?
[19:40] <sebsebseb> madadam: ok odd pastebin, and how about using Banshee :) very good music and video player.   as long as  you got the Ibex version
[19:40] <manpreet21nov> is there anyone who can help me out ??
[19:40] <the_real_player1> is ati better then nvidia (better supported drivers)?
[19:40] <sebsebseb> manpreet21nov: help you with what?
[19:40] <sebsebseb> !ask
[19:40] <tony__> Anyone here able to help me out with a checkpoint client?
[19:40] <wanttotryubuntu> Gnea sorry , this is the only desktop that i have
[19:40] <hollywoodb> acerone: you can have a look at /var/log/apt/term.log (you'll likely need to use sudo to view it)
[19:41] <eseven73> how do I fix "Server Authorization directory (daemon/ServAuthDir) is set to /var/lib/gdm but this does not exist. Please correct GDM configuration and restart GDM"  Error? Prior to this boot hangs at *Starting log daemon    [ OK ]  for like 15 minutes
[19:41] <wanttotryubuntu> gnea also, as i have been trying to figure this out the whole day, i have some error stuff written down
[19:41] <tony__> sebsebseb: still able to assist me with checkpoint?
[19:41] <acerone> hollywoodb: ok
[19:41] <gusibad> i try reconfigure xserver-xorg but i can´t configure my video card
[19:41] <sebsebseb> tony__: why did you PM me the other night  regarding your checkpoint?
[19:41] <wanttotryubuntu> gnea .. basically i was told to remove quiet and splash using F6 .. basically 2 errors pop up
[19:41] <tony__> sebsebseb: because you were away and thought i'd leave you a message
[19:41] <manpreet21nov> hey ... actually i am not able to do PC to PC calls with skype using ubuntu as OS
[19:41] <Gnea> bruce89: hrm. i've been using ubuntu for a few years now, debian for the past decade... I'm sorry, I'm not entirely sure what you mean... I see people get frustrated, but those who flat-out hate tend not to stick around for very long
[19:41] <sebsebseb> tony__: right, but I don't even remember talking to you about that
[19:42] <manpreet21nov> my internal mic is recording the sound very well ..
[19:42] <wanttotryubuntu> gnea they go 'something' like this .. buffer i/o error on dev sr0
[19:42] <acerone> hollywoodb: what am I looking for?
[19:42] <bruce89> Gnea: you get to just use it, and not love it
[19:42] <tony__> sebsebseb: you said in #ubuntu you were able to help? unless I got the wrong person?
[19:42] <bruce89> Gnea: I can't stand Ubuntu nowadays, but I'm lazy
[19:42] <wanttotryubuntu> sr 3:0:0:0 sense key medium error current .. add.sence id crc or ecc error
[19:42] <manpreet21nov> but not working when i use it for PC to PC calls
[19:42] <sebsebseb> tony__: probably wrong person, but checkpoint is some sort of firewall?
[19:42] <Gnea> wanttotryubuntu: oh my... looks like either a bad dvd drive or a bad dvd drive cable
[19:42] <tobor> ;;;Hi all - anyone know of a FAQ or other web page on the mispelled dir look up ability active in Bash?
[19:43] <tony__> sebsebseb: correct, trying to get my sxn client to work with it
[19:43] <hollywoodb> acerone: I would look to see if there were any updates to madwifi/atheros stuff, the kernel, things like that.  also, do you see the wifi device with `iwconfig` or `ifconfig -a` ?
[19:43] <Gnea> wanttotryubuntu: do you know if it's IDE or SATA?
[19:43] <tobor> Or what that capability is called ?
[19:43] <brandon_thomson> with compiz is it possible to get dialogs for an app to open in the same workspace as the app?
[19:43] <wanttotryubuntu> Gnea i could seriously live with that
[19:43] <_natschil> hello, is there a simple way I can edit in what order services start?
[19:43] <acerone> hollywoodb: I do see ath0 in iwconfig
[19:43] <wanttotryubuntu> Gnea, how to confirm ?
[19:43] <sebsebseb> tony__: ok I haven't used checkpoint so I don't know, however you may be able to find a soloution on ubuntuforums.org
[19:43] <Ikelos234> Sorry for asking again, but I think my question got missed:  If installing a file from source, to where should we move the folder containing the make and install files, BEFORE installing from source?
[19:44] <musikgoat|main> brandon_thomson: if you don't get your answer, also ask in #compiz-fusion
[19:44] <tony__> sebsebseb: thank you, but I have already browsed most of the internet for my problem :-) sorry for pm'ing you
[19:44] <brandon_thomson> thanks musikgoat|main
[19:44] <hollywoodb> acerone: well, then your card appears to be detected, so maybe something went wrong with the configuration and the updates aren't that important.
[19:44] <acerone> hollywoodb: it is there, but somethings not right. I found one update (hardware driver manager) and disabled that. and i can connect to wireless, but somethign still is screwing it up
[19:44] <hollywoodb> acerone: what do you mean "screwing it up" ?
[19:44] <acerone> hollywoodb: everything was setup fine untill i updated
[19:44] <sebsebseb> tony__: no problem regarding the pm
[19:44] <Gnea> wanttotryubuntu: turn the computer off, open the case, look at the cable going from the DVDDrive to the motherboard - if it's a long, flat ribbon, it's IDE.  if it's a skinny two-wire red/blue/black cable, it's probably SATA
[19:44] <sebsebseb> tony__: I could probably help you with loads of other things, but not that
[19:45] <tony__> :)
[19:45] <manpreet21nov> my internal mic is not working while making PC to PC calls ... but it is recording sound .. can anyone help me out to resolve the problem ???
[19:45] <sebsebseb> tony__: I meant Ubuntu stuff yeah
[19:45] <wanttotryubuntu> Gnea... i assure you its SATA
[19:45] <tony__> sebsebseb: you can help me with one main problem, firefox right click
[19:45] <acerone> hollywoodb: I think the problem was the update that added "Hardware Drivers" to my Admin Menu. And in that dialog, there is support for Atheros driver (which I disabled, cuz I want the madwifi driver)
[19:45] <sebsebseb> tony__: what about it?
[19:45] <acerone> hollywoodb: when I disabled that my card was recognized again. . .
[19:45] <wanttotryubuntu> Gnea, i assure you that i have only ONE hard drive which is SATA 2... i have only ONE dvd writer which is SATA but i dont know if it is sata 1 or sata 2
[19:45] <musikgoat|main> Ikelos234: depending on the installer, the correct files should be placed in the correct locations during make install.   i've never moved the source dir when compiling
[19:45] <tony__> sebsebseb: have you seen the firefox right click bug?
[19:45] <Gnea> wanttotryubuntu: okay. in that case, I would try to re-seat the SATA cable and see if that helps
[19:45] <sebsebseb> tony__: nope
[19:45] <Stupendoussteve> acerone: madwifi is old, the atheros drivers are the new gig
[19:46] <Stupendoussteve> acerone: Have you tried with the atheros drivers?
[19:46] <locainex_> depends on what youre trying to do with the network card
[19:46] <acerone> hollywoodb: no
[19:46] <Gnea> wanttotryubuntu: it won't matter if it's 1 or 2, a bad cable is a bad cable
[19:46] <tony__> i.e. when i sometimes rightclick a link, it doesnt open the menu but preforms menu tasks
[19:46] <manpreet21nov> my internal mic is not working while making PC to PC calls ... but it is recording sound .. can anyone help me out to resolve the problem ???
[19:46] <tony__> such as "send link via email"
[19:46] <acerone> hollywoodb: so how do I uninstall the madwifi drivers?
[19:46] <wanttotryubuntu> Gnea, i know how to open the cabinet and attach/detach stuff .. just one curious querry .. drive works PERFECTLY under windows
[19:46] <bruce89> !bug
[19:46] <Gnea> wanttotryubuntu: of course, if the people who put the computer together are competant, then they would've used the correct cabling the whole time
[19:46] <acerone> hollywoodb: i followed this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AspireOne
[19:46] <manpreet21nov> my internal mic is not working while making PC to PC calls ... but it is recording sound .. can anyone help me out to resolve the problem ???
[19:46] <hollywoodb> acerone: I have no idea, I haven't dealt with the new atheros drivers... Stupendoussteve was the one that asked you if you had tried them
[19:47] <manpreet21nov> my internal mic is not working while making PC to PC calls ... but it is recording sound .. can anyone help me out to resolve the problem ???
[19:47] <Stupendoussteve> manpreet21nov: Make sure your VoIP program is using the correct sound input source
[19:47] <Gnea> wanttotryubuntu: windows doesn't mean something is 100%, there are many bug fixes to common problems that windows applies in the background that you'd never know about.
[19:47] <acerone> hollywoodb: do you know if they are compatable with the aircrack-ng suite? Cuz thats one thing that didnt work after the update. airmon-ng would give an error about a ath0 "no such device"
[19:47] <manpreet21nov> how can i make sure ???
[19:48] <tony__> sebsebseb: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-mozillateam-bugs/2008-November/060173.html
[19:48] <manpreet21nov> i am using ubuntu
[19:48] <y0loek> i just accidentally deleted my swap space from within partition editor, how do i undelete it?
[19:48] <wanttotryubuntu> ok, i will have to turn off the pc to check cables again
[19:48] <rami88> hi
[19:48] <Gnea> wanttotryubuntu: there could, of course, be some other problems facing the way ubuntu is trying to get along with the system. my suggestion is to start with the hardware and go from there.
[19:48] <duffy> Ok im missing something, ive set a "cap" in compiz, the default one in /usr/share/compiz actually.. but its only using it for the top of cube, not bottom
[19:48] <acerone> Stupendoussteve: How do I try the atheros drivers?? How do i disable madwifi?
[19:48] <musikgoat|main> y0loek: just right click on the partition, select new, then swap (i believe thats the order)
[19:48] <wanttotryubuntu> Gnea , sure .. lets go step by step
[19:49] <hollywoodb> acerone: if your card is functioning properly with any driver aircrack should work.  aircrack doesn't care what specific driver you use as long as the driver+card are working properly
[19:49] <musikgoat|main> y0loek: have you written the changes to disk though?
[19:49] <scotlfs> Hey I have a problem I can't figure out, how do I get my Webcam to work?
[19:49] <y0loek> musikgoat|main, ive tried that
[19:49] <bruce89> sebsebseb: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.0/+bug/187313
[19:49] <musikgoat|main> y0loek: did you choose apply yet?
[19:49] <y0loek> yes musikgoat|main
[19:49] <wanttotryubuntu> Gnea, just one querry which i know is not related, if ubuntu doesnt work, what is the next best friendly linux option ? =(
[19:49] <tony__> bruce89: ?
[19:49] <manpreet21nov> my internal mic is not working while making PC to PC calls ... but it is recording sound .. can anyone help me out to resolve the problem ???
[19:49] <acerone> hollywoodb: and thats the problem, during the update something screweed up my driver, I recompiled and isntalled madwifi but something still isnt right
[19:49] <y0loek> yes musikgoat|main
[19:49] <musikgoat|main> y0loek: what happens when you create the swap space?
[19:50] <bruce89> tony__: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.0/+bug/187313
[19:50] <manpreet21nov> my internal mic is not working while making PC to PC calls ... but it is recording sound .. can anyone help me out to resolve the problem ???
[19:50] <bruce89> !repeat | manpreet21nov
[19:50] <Ikelos234> musikgoat|main:  I downloaded Kildclient, a gtk+  MU client from the internet.  I have default downloads go to my desktop  - I packaged the .tar file and have the normal folder - From past experiences of botching installation from source, I know that if I go to my desktop and do the ".configure make install" routine, it will install the program TO the desktop.  An example of this is when I installed the official adobe reader.  The p
[19:50] <Ikelos234> rogram wont launch from anywhere but the desktop.    This is NOT what I would prefer.  My question is basically what is the default path for ubuntu to read programs from?
[19:50] <tony__> bruce89: I can follow links within my own links I post here :)
[19:50] <sebsebseb> tony__: don't know,  and  Ubuntu's Firefox is not offical
[19:50] <tony__> reading it now ;)
[19:50] <y0loek> musikgoat|main, The kernel is unable to re-read the partitiontables on the following devices:
[19:50] <y0loek> - /dev/sda
[19:51] <Ikelos234> musikgoat|main:  *unpackaged
[19:51] <manpreet21nov> thanks ubottu
[19:51] <musikgoat|main> y0loek: thats odd, you can try after a reboot
[19:51] <Free0ne> I just read that when you run the sudo command the grace period just applies to that specific terminal instance. Say I ran a sudo apt-get upgrade command and 4 minutes later I visit a web page which exploits a firefox security hole (0-day for instance) and it attempts run some shellcode which contains a sudo command of its own. That sudo command of its own would require the authentication, am I correct? Also, is there a command that le
[19:51] <y0loek> ok
[19:51] <scotlfs> Can someone help me get my camera working?
[19:52] <sebsebseb> !webcam
[19:52] <scotlfs> thanx
[19:52] <sebsebseb> np
[19:52] <Free0ne> !help
[19:52] <musikgoat|main> Ikelos234: well, depending on the installer, if the make install doesn't drop the executable in /usr/bin or /usr/local/bin, then that would be a problem,  I would look at the readme to see if there is any reference to what the installer does
[19:53] <bruce89> Ikelos234: which prog_name
[19:53] <hollywoodb> Free0ne: try it yourself: open a terminal, type `sudo some_command`, enter your password.  Then use sudo in the same term again and you'll see no password required.  Now leave that term open and fire up a new term.  Run a sudo command in the new term and you'll see that in the new term you need to enter a password, while in the old term you don't.
[19:54] <Ikelos234> musikgoat|main:   Thanks - I'll check the readme again.       bruce89:   Kildclient is the name of the program I'm trying to install from source.
[19:54] <hollywoodb> Free0ne: running firefox is like that as well, so you are correct
[19:54] <unmonkey> !ntfs
[19:55] <Free0ne> hollywoodb: Thank you, that makes me feel a lot better.
[19:55] <musikgoat|main> Ikelos234: kildclient is in the repos
[19:55] <hollywoodb> Free0ne: but, you probably shouldn't run firefox from the same term that you just ran sudo+password from.
[19:55] <musikgoat|main> Ikelos234: i would suggest installing that, you won't have to deal with any of this
[19:56] <Ikelos234> musikgoat|main:  Oh dear - I apologize.
[19:56] <musikgoat|main> !info kildclient
[19:56] <Free0ne> hollywoodb: Hah yeah, thank you for that clarification, I now feel better about leaving the 15 minute sudo grace period on
[19:56] <Ikelos234> musikgoat|main:  Thanks
[19:56] <musikgoat|main> Ikelos234: no worries, just trying to save you some time
[19:56] <ashish> what is alternative of dreamweaver in linux
[19:56] <musikgoat|main> yw
[19:56] <musikgoat|main> ashish: gedit :-P
[19:56] <acerone> hollywoodb: another thing. running 'sudo /etc/init.d/networking stop" outputs: "Ignoring unknown interface ath0=ath0."  ???
[19:57] <acerone> hollywoodb: which points out something isnt right, but I dont know waht
[19:57] <Gnea> ashish: screem
[19:57] <Ikelos234> musikgoat|main:  Its rather distressful to me that I have such trouble installing from source and I'm supposed to be a computer science major...    >_>;
[19:57] <hollywoodb> acerone: what's in /etc/network/interfaces ?
[19:57] <Gnea> !html | ashish
[19:57] <musikgoat|main> Ikelos234: eh, every installer is different, thats why the readme should have details like that
[19:57] <sebsebseb> ashish: go to these sites http://www.osalt.com  and http://www.linuxeq.com  and yeah learn how to code HTML
[19:57] <acerone> hollywoodb: auto lo ; iface lo inet loopback  . thats all
[19:58] <acerone> hollywoodb: nothing for eth0 or ath0
[19:58] <acerone> hollywoodb: is that why its unknown?
[19:58] <jassim> Hello, could someone please tell me how I can make my Microsoft headset work with ubuntu?
[19:58] <Ikelos234> musikgoat|main:  Yes, unfortunately it just says to do the whole "configure make install" thing , which I already knew...
[19:58] <jassim> quickchat 300
[19:58] <Ikelos234> musikgoat|main:  so thanks again for your help
[19:58] <sebsebseb> !mic
[19:58] <sebsebseb> !usb
[19:58] <hollywoodb> acerone: no, that's correct.  are you using networkmanager?
[19:59] <acerone> hollywoodb: yes
[19:59] <ashish> i know how to code in html but i need a editor like dreamweaver
[19:59] <sebsebseb> !headset
[19:59] <Free0ne> !info screen
[19:59] <Ikelos234> musikgoat|main:  and I'll have to pay closer attn to what the repos contain
[19:59] <hollywoodb> ashish: there isn't a drop-in replacement for dreamweaver, but you could try it under wine http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=183
[19:59] <sebsebseb> ashish: lol that is for noobs
[19:59] <sebsebseb> ashish: try NVU or something
[19:59] <Flannel> ashish: Check out Kompozer
[19:59] <Flannel> !noob | sebsebseb
[19:59] <bruce89> !insult | sebsebseb
[19:59] <hollywoodb> ashish: there's nvu, bluefish, kompozer, screem, and more
[20:00] <sebsebseb> uh  yeah noobs heh,  I meant it's best to hand code just takes up longer time,  and sure really complex sites will be done in Dreamweaver
[20:00] <sebsebseb> to save time
[20:00] <hollywoodb> acerone: OK, you don't want interfaces managed by networkmanager to be listed in /etc/network/interfaces, so that file is OK
[20:00] <acerone> hollywoodb: I just cant figure out why airmon-ng wont work now
[20:00] <M4d3L> hi. I have some problem with java on ubuntu 8.10. am trying to install Zend Studio For Eclipse and I always got this error : exec: 2481: /tmp/install.dir.10313/Linux/resource/jre/bin/java: not found
[20:00] <sebsebseb> ashish: to be honest  the Linux altenratives to Dreamweaver aren't that great really,   I expect Dreamweaver will run under  Wine though,  or you could run it in a Windows virtual machine, as long as your computer has enough RAM
[20:01] <TwistedGhost> So any time i try to play games or watch movies my computer freeze
[20:01] <Gnea> sebsebseb: that is ENOUGH.
[20:01] <TwistedGhost> What would be causeing thios?
[20:01] <sebsebseb> TwistedGhost: ok got the graphics card driver?
[20:01] <acerone> hollywoodb: in my job its important that i have access to tools lke aircrack and kismet. And they were working fine, until I ran the update manager
[20:01] <ashish> how to install nvu
[20:01] <musikgoat|main> sebsebseb, ashish, some versions of dreamweaver do run in wine
[20:01] <sebsebseb> ashish: you want kompozer, NVU isn't suppourted anymore
[20:02] <TwistedGhost> i tryed installing the graphics card driver and it broke my graphics
[20:02] <ashish> i m using gnome
[20:02] <ashish> so that komposer not
[20:02] <Gnea> ashish: kompozer will install and work just fine
[20:02] <sebsebseb> !wine | ashish
[20:02] <Gnea> it doesn't require a KDE interface, just a few kde libraries to display
[20:03] <Gnea> sebsebseb: that's quite a bit of work for just a simple procedure
[20:03] <sebsebseb> Gnea: what was enough?
[20:03] <TwistedGhost> sebsebseb, when i did try to install the graphics card drivers it broke my graphics so i couldnt see anything and had to reinstall
[20:03] <ThomasGHenry> hey folks I think I broke how/which repos apt-get and aptitude look at. how can i restore the defaults?
[20:04] <sebsebseb> TwistedGhost: ok  that's your problem then probably
[20:04] <sebsebseb> TwistedGhost: also when it comes to AVI or whatever for vidoe you got the codecs?
[20:04] <sebsebseb> codecs
[20:04] <jassim> lifechat 3000 wont work with ubuntu, HELP!
[20:04] <Gnea> sebsebseb: when you say that the linux alternative html editors aren't all that good. I've never had a problem with them, and thousands of others haven't either.
[20:04] <hydrogen18> Thomas = yes edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[20:04] <TwistedGhost> ok so how do install the graphics card drivers so they wont break my computer?
[20:04] <hollywoodb> acerone: are you sure there wasn't a kernel update?  maybe have a look at this thread, specifically posts 5,6,7 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=943189
[20:04] <ThomasGHenry> ok thx
[20:04] <acerone> hollywoodb: yeah, on second glance there was a kernel update, so I booted the old kernel up, but still the same problem
[20:04] <sebsebseb> Gnea: I would rather hand code than use a WYSIWYG :)  yes it takes longer, but much more control over my code, so  no junk code, and then it's great fun to validate it on w3.org
[20:05] <Gnea> sebsebseb: that's fine, but don't push your method down someone elses throat when they're clearly looking to use a different method. kthx :)
[20:05] <sebsebseb> Gnea: Seamonkey makes sense though,  browser, HTML editor, and that all in one
[20:05] <Free0ne> hollywoodb: I just noticed that when running synaptic and typing in the root password and then exiting and running wireshark as root it didn't require the root password. That means that the same terminal session executed them as well and if I ran another graphical program from the menu that would be vulnerable to a sudo command from shellcode?
[20:06] <Gnea> TwistedGhost: what video card?
[20:06] <LordFDisk> acerone, my wifi card stopped working ...after the kernel 2.6.27-13 and everything looked right in 8.10 but didn't work, so I reinstalled and just updated to 2.6.27-11
[20:06] <TwistedGhost> radeon 9 something series
[20:06] <musikgoat|main> Free0ne: sudo is on a time delay
[20:06] <acerone> LordFDisk: what did you reinstall? the whole os?
[20:06] <Stupendoussteve> Free0ne: It's cached
[20:07] <Flannel> Free0ne: your sudo password is cached for 10(15?) minutes by default.  I believe terminals have a different cache (each one, which means GUI is separate)
[20:07] <LordFDisk> acerone, yep
[20:07] <Gnea> TwistedGhost: okay, you should check the ATI page and make sure you're lining the correct driver up with the correct card, as there are a few different ATI drivers
[20:07] <hollywoodb> acerone: if you followed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AspireOne you'll need to do the make; sudo make install; sudo modprobe ath_pci every time you do a kernel update
[20:07] <Gnea> !ATI | TwistedGhost
[20:07] <Ax-Ax> dont type sudo rm / -rf :D:D
[20:07] <Flannel> !danger
[20:08] <acerone> hollywoodb: ok, Ill try that, and see if that fixes my problem
[20:08] <bruenig> dos that even work?
[20:08] <Stupendoussteve> Yes it does
[20:08] <bruenig> hmm
[20:08] <bruenig> let me see
[20:08] <Free0ne> alright thanks
[20:08] <hollywoodb> Free0ne: running a GUI app with root priviledges in Gnome is different from using sudo in a terminal.  Think of each terminal session as a new login, but you only logged into Gnome once, so it is like launching them from the same term
[20:08] <bruenig> oh it does
[20:08] <Stupendoussteve> Free0ne: If it didn't use that behavior, you would be getting nag screens quite often
[20:08] <jrib> bruenig: not on ubuntu
[20:08] <haytham-med> hi all, when i quit from a game the sound doesnot function in my system(unless i restart the system)
[20:08] <bruenig> Flannel: does ubuntu not to --no-preserve-root stuff?
[20:08] <Flannel> Free0ne: You can manually kill cache though, if you want.
[20:08] <bruenig> not do*
[20:09] <haytham-med> using hp pavilian dv5
[20:09] <Flannel> bruenig: Depends on your version.  And that's still not a reason to play with said command.
[20:09] <bruenig> Flannel: right, just curious
[20:09] <acerone> on a side note how do I purge the apt-cache? (to free up space on a 16gb ssd)
[20:09] <sebsebseb> Flannel: remove root something?   the command?
[20:09] <bruenig> seems like the sort of thing ubuntu would be on top of
[20:09] <Flannel> bruenig: I believe Hardy and Intrepid have it enabled by default
[20:10] <haytham-med> so how to restart sound?
[20:10] <musikgoat|main> acerone: apt-get clean --purge
[20:10] <usser> acerone, sudo apt-get clean
[20:10] <acerone> danke
[20:10] <sebsebseb> musikgoat|main: sudo apt-get purge program
[20:11] <musikgoat|main> sebsebseb: thats not what he asked
[20:12] <mezy> hello everyone
[20:12] <M4d3L> hi. I have some problem with java on ubuntu 8.10. am trying to install Zend Studio For Eclipse and I always got this error : exec: 2481: /tmp/install.dir.10313/Linux/resource/jre/bin/java: not found   anyone have an idea why?
[20:12] <eseven73> ok i just had a very close call with complete meltdown of my 8.10, I somehow got very lucky and it just worked itself out, I *DONT* want to go through that again, so how easy could I make my /home on a seperate partition?
[20:12] <M4d3L> I have 64bit version
[20:13] <Flannel> !separatehome | eseven73
[20:13] <eseven73> Flannel: ok ill try that thanks
[20:13] <Slart> eseven73: if you can "create" some empty disk space to put a home partition on it's not very hard to set it up
[20:14] <peaches__> why the hell does pulseaudio on kubuntu give segmentation fault trying to run the daemon
[20:14] <eseven73> slart idealy I'd like to have /home on my external USB hdd, because it's on a very small hdd rigth now (30 gigs) and the external is 300 gigs
[20:15] <acerone> hollywoodb: dang, it. it still doesnt work right
[20:16] <Slart> eseven73: oh... not entirely sure if you can do that.. it depends on when usb discs are mounted.. if they are mounted (or can be set to mount) when the computer boots and not when the user logs in I guess it would be ok.. the problem is I think usb drives are mounted after the user logs in..
[20:16] <matt> As a long KDE user, I have decided to try gnome. I am trying to figure out a good media player. suggestions.
[20:16] <bruce89> !ohmy
[20:16] <hollywoodb> acerone: can you `modprobe ath_pci` without any errors?
[20:16] <Slart> matt: vlc is _a_ media player..
[20:16] <eseven73> slart yeah that's what i was fearing
[20:16] <acerone> hollywoodb: yes,
[20:16] <acerone> hollywoodb: and thats why Im so confused, it seems to working, but its nto
[20:17] <hollywoodb> what modules are listed by `sudo lsmod | grep ath` ?
[20:17] <matt> Slart: Let me rephrase that, audio jukebox.
[20:17] <ghone> eseven73: Couldn't you just repatition the external HDD, cp your home directory over, then clear out your home directory and symlink it the the external HDD partition?
[20:17] <acerone> hollywoodb: ath_rate_sample;ath_pci;wlan;ath_hal
[20:17] <mezy> i can't get to my hdd when using the live usb. i always get an erro,r saying that accoring to mtab /dev/sda2 is already mounted on /media/disk. then another erro puts up saying its uable to mount my hdd
[20:17] <eseven73> ghone: why would i have to repartition the externall? It's already ext3
[20:17] <hollywoodb> acerone: OK, the new drivers are ath5k, so it looks fine to me. guess I'm stumped, i think it should be working
[20:18] <acerone> hollywoodb: should, and did. but idk
[20:18] <Patrick_O> Hello, I'm trying to trouble shoot a small script I'm using to start from programs at boot. The script works fine from the terminal, but when run on boot it does not launch the window. In Sessions it shows the script as currently running. Any ideas?
[20:18] <ghone> eseven: beacues I am drunk and you are not so my logic is inherently superior.
[20:18] <Slart> matt: ahh.. my bad... well.. I use quod libet myself... but there are plenty.. audacious for just a simple music player.. amarok runs on gnome too if you want that..
[20:18] <mezy> and when i try to look for my hdd in /media/disk, it doesn't show up
[20:18] <acerone> hollywoodb: which update is responsible for the ath5k driver? i may just reinstall and then blacklist that update
[20:18] <eseven73> ghone: hehe :)
[20:18] <acerone> hollywoodb: or else just carefully go through every update
[20:19] <matt> Slart: Don't know if I like the idea of kde and gnome.
[20:19] <bruce89> !opinion | matt
[20:19] <Dosha> hi
[20:19] <hollywoodb> acerone: I believe ath5k is included in the kernel, i.e. not a separate package, but I don't really know a lot about ath5k
[20:19] <Slart> matt: I think it worked quite nicely the last time I tried it.. but it's your decision
[20:19] <sebsebseb> Dosha: hi
[20:20] <alessandro_> ciao
[20:20] <Travis-42> how do I make ubuntu automatically update the time for daylight savings time?
[20:20] <sebsebseb> !dst
[20:20] <Slart> matt: also take a look at banshee or .. what is the other one called that talks to ipods.. rock something
[20:20] <acerone> hollywoodb: oh well, im stumped. so im going to reinstall and then when it comes time to update, I will read through each one and try to spot which one was the issue
[20:20] <Slart> !ipod
[20:20] <bruenig> Travis-42: ntp
[20:20] <Toast> Does Intrepid do any automatic cleaning of /var/cache/apt ?
[20:20] <Slart> matt: ah.. rockbox
[20:20] <wue3736> hollywoodb: i think for some strange reason they left out ath5k on 8.10
[20:20] <sebsebseb> Dosha:  want help with something?
[20:20] <sebsebseb> !ask
[20:21] <Travis-42> bruenig: ntp: command not found?
[20:21] <musikgoat|main> Travis-42: if you had your timezone set correctly and your system up to date, it should have changed
[20:21] <Slart> Travis-42: the protocol is called ntp.. the client might be called something else.. or you have to install it first
[20:21] <aboucher> how can i dual boot 2 hard drives with grub
[20:22] <Travis-42> ok :-/ I'll try to figure out what's wrong.  my timezone has been set right and my system is up to date, but it never updated for some reason
[20:22] <matt> Slart: 8.10 is intrepid?
[20:22] <sebsebseb> !grub
[20:22] <Matr|X> how i can read file ext is mdb in ubuntu
[20:22] <Slart> matt: yes
[20:22] <Slart> !intrepid | matt
[20:22] <Travis-42> I guess ntp support wasn't installed, strange.  is that not a default?
[20:22] <Matr|X> how i can read file ext is mdb in ubuntu
[20:22] <bruenig> Travis-42: you have to get it
[20:23] <silentContender> How do you get a process name from a process ID?
[20:23] <Slart> !info ntp | Travis-42
[20:23] <Narcissus> 2/2
[20:23] <Matr|X> how i can read file ext is mdb in ubuntu
[20:23] <bruenig> !info openntp
[20:23] <bruenig> hmm
[20:23] <dajxd> Hey- has anyone here had any luck installing freeBoB on Ubuntu?
[20:23] <Slart> !info ntpdate | Travis-42
[20:23] <bruenig> that one is better
[20:23] <bruenig> the open one
[20:23] <Travis-42> oh :-/  I kind of just expected ubuntu to automatically update for dst for me, I didn't realize I needed an external file.  but thank you for the help
[20:23] <sebsebseb> dajxd: what's freeBoB?
[20:23] <Slart> Travis-42: I have no idea what the difference between the two packages are
[20:23] <Patrick_O> I have a script that runs correctly from the terminal but doesn't seem to work when set to run during boot. Here's the script: #!/bin/sh
[20:23] <Patrick_O> ./paparazzi3/sw/ground_segment/tmtc/link  -d /dev/ttyUSB0 &
[20:23] <Patrick_O> ./paparazzi3/sw/ground_segment/tmtc/server &
[20:23] <Patrick_O> ./paparazzi3/sw/ground_segment/cockpit/gcs"        Any ideas on what could be wrong?
[20:23] <dajxd> sebsebseb: it's an older version of ffado- firewire audio drivers for linux.
[20:23] <bruce89> Travis-42: it doesn't see tzdata
[20:24] <sebsebseb> dajxd: oh ok
[20:24] <bruce89> !info tzdata | Travis-42
[20:24] <musikgoat|main> Travis-42: system -> admin -> time and date...  the TZ and manual was selected in there?
[20:24] <Travis-42> musikgoat|main: yea, that's what it's set as
[20:25] <deany> how come the bottom compiz "cap" is still same, even tho the top cap is the image ive set
[20:25] <Sal__> if I have have multiple files across 3 separate systems... is there a way on a computer I connect to 1 of the system through samba, and see the files from all 3 of the systems?
[20:26] <rutger1> any ideas on how to get a intel 950 gma running?
[20:26] <Sal__> im really baffled on this one :l
[20:26]  * SmoothOp is in the same boat with an intel 945gm
[20:26] <dajxd> sebsebseb:  http://freebob.sourceforge.net/index.php/FreeBoB_on_Debian_GNU/Linux#Installing  is what I'm trying to do, but I don't have the public key for the two sources.  I think that's the problem?
[20:26] <sebsebseb> Sal__: yes Samba can  do your files of all the Windows machines
[20:26] <sebsebseb> !samba
[20:27] <Sal__> works with Mac
[20:27] <Sal__> so its not just windows
[20:27] <sebsebseb> dajxd: I don't know never used that before
[20:27] <Sal__> but thats not my question
[20:27] <Sal__> i know how to use samba shares
[20:27] <dajxd> sebsebseb: okay, thanks anyway.
[20:27] <Sal__> i want to know if its possible
[20:27] <Free0ne_> Is it at all possible to change my current filesystem (ext3) to ext4? I compiled and installed the newest kernel the other day and for the learning experience I'd like to change up this filesystem while keeping all the data the same (if at all possible)
[20:27] <Sal__> i have 3 separate computers, with folders on each of files
[20:27] <sebsebseb> Free0ne_: ok Ext4 is still buggy
[20:27] <Sal__> i want to be able to mount a samba drive of one of the 3 computers.... and see the files on all 3 of the computers
[20:27] <silentContender> I have a problem with a SEGV signal from a progam, it kills my login.  How do I ID the problem?
[20:28] <Sal__> in that 1 mount
[20:28] <Sal__> is that possible?
[20:28] <bruce89> Free0ne_: kernelnewbies
[20:28] <usser> SmoothOp, works fine for me GM965/960
[20:28] <Sal__> anybody have any idea?
[20:28] <bruce89> Free0ne_: http://ext4.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Ext4_Howto
[20:28] <usser> sebsebseb, no it isnt, ext4 is in stable kernel now
[20:28] <bruce89> Free0ne_: if / is using extents, you'll need grub2
[20:29] <zlr> that's what samba does Sal__ : create a samba share, connect to it on the 3 comuters, done.
[20:29] <manpreet21nov> hey .... my internal mic is not working while making PC to PC calls ... can anyone help me out ??
[20:29] <Sal__> zlr im trying to do it, in one connects
[20:29] <Sal__> connect*
[20:29] <Free0ne_> sebsebseb & bruce89: Thank you both for the quick replies
[20:29] <sebsebseb> no problem
[20:29] <acerone> how do I blacklist an update from the ubuntu update manager
[20:29] <Sal__> zlr: so if I connect to say, computer 1...... the share i get from computer 1, will show me the files on computer 1 2 and 3...
[20:29] <manpreet21nov> hey ... can aanyone solve my problem ??
[20:29] <zlr> hmm
[20:29] <zlr> no
[20:29] <Sal__> right, thats what im trying to do
[20:29] <Sal__> is it possible ?
[20:30] <homeskill> how is it ubuntu uses sys-v style /etc/init.d/ scripts but doesnt have an /etc/inittab file?
[20:30] <papapep> acerone: sudo apt-get hold package-name
[20:30] <hollywoodb> manpreet21nov: try the forums, since nobody here seems to have any idea
[20:30] <acerone> papapep: thanks
[20:30] <zlr> Sal__:  create a share on computer1, put the files for all 3 machines in it, then connect to this share from the other two
[20:30] <papapep> ;)
[20:30] <Sal__> zlr that won't work
[20:30] <Sal__> for what im attempting to do
[20:30] <Sal__> i need to be able to do what i asked :l
[20:30] <zlr> keep in mind Sal__ that you can write from only one machine at the same time
[20:31] <manpreet21nov>  hey .... my internal mic is not working while making PC to PC calls ... can anyone help me out??
[20:31] <zlr> Sal__: it sounds like to want a 3 node cluster
[20:31] <Sal__> yeah zlr
[20:31]  * bruce89 wished people chose proper nicks without underscores
[20:31] <Sal__> could i mount the files on computer 2 and computer 3 to computer 1 ?
[20:31] <sebsebseb> !tab | bruce89
[20:31] <bruce89> I know thank you very much
[20:32]  * Free0ne_ forgot he had irc already up and thinks about how sorry he is
[20:32]  * _VIM_ glares at bruce89
[20:32]  * Free0ne feels more at home now
[20:32] <sebsebseb> bruce89: so why the complaining, and it's not difficult to type in a underscore
[20:32] <papapep> Sal__: perhaps syncing the 3 remote directories in one local directory would work for you
[20:32] <bruce89> it's a pain to have so many autocomplete option
[20:32] <sebsebseb> bruce89: that's true
[20:33] <Sal__> syncing ?
[20:33] <bruce89> !rsync | Sal__
[20:33] <sebsebseb> not that many for underscore right now though
[20:33] <zash> !info rsync
[20:33] <Sal__> you meaning downloading the files to one local directory ?
[20:33] <Sal__> thats not going to work when you're dealing with 400-500gbs of files
[20:34] <papapep> Sal__: big files or many small files?
[20:34] <Dank_Master> hhm
[20:34] <Dank_Master> i need help
[20:34] <sebsebseb> !ask
[20:34] <sebsebseb> Dank_Master: help with what?
[20:35] <Dank_Master> im new to unbuntu
[20:35] <Dank_Master> and i changed my resolution
[20:35] <billyoc> ubottu: beta?
[20:35] <Dank_Master> and now its all a garbled
[20:35] <billyoc> ubottu: beta
[20:35] <sebsebseb> Dank_Master: ok do you have the graphics driver installed?
[20:35] <Dank_Master> no
[20:35] <Dank_Master> i was attempting to
[20:35] <Dank_Master> it was giving me an error as well
[20:35] <Dank_Master> something about unicoding im not sure
[20:35] <Sal__> pappa many small files usually
[20:35] <Matr|X> he in installed now mdbtools
[20:35] <Sal__> but it can vary honestly
[20:35] <Matr|X> but i cant find it
[20:35] <sebsebseb> Dank_Master: ok which version of Ubuntu?  how old is your computer?   Nivida or ATI?
[20:35] <Matr|X> how can i run it
[20:36] <linxuz3r> hey
[20:36] <sebsebseb> linxuz3r: hi
[20:36] <Dank_Master> i just downloaded ubuntu yesterday so probably the newest, its an older computer running an amd64 and its using an ati radeon 9800
[20:36] <linxuz3r> my hard drives are making sound when i power on
[20:36] <linxuz3r> is that good or bad?
[20:36] <sebsebseb> Dank_Master: older computer how old?
[20:36] <guntbert> !enter | Matr|X
[20:36] <Dank_Master> mmm
[20:36] <sebsebseb> !ati
[20:36] <Matr|X> ok
[20:36] <Dank_Master> prolly 6 years old
[20:36] <papapep> Sal__: I think you could give it a try...rsync is fast
[20:36] <linxuz3r> my hard drives are making sound when i power on
[20:36] <sebsebseb> Dank_Master: maybe your card does not work with the xorg in 8.10
[20:36] <linxuz3r> is that good or bad?
[20:37] <Dank_Master> it worked at first
[20:37] <Dank_Master> untill i changed resolution
[20:37] <Dank_Master> now its a bunch of lines
[20:37] <Matr|X> i installed mdptools on my ubunto  but i cant find and run mdb files still
[20:37] <sebsebseb> Dank_Master: don't know
[20:37] <Matr|X> i cant find mdbtools
[20:37] <ekontsevoy> I have a few APT packages that have "rc" status after I removed them. I purged them too, and ran apt-get autoclean just in case, but "rc" status remains. How do I completely get rid of them?
[20:37] <guntbert> linxuz3r: ask in #hardware please
[20:38] <Toast> Does anyone find /var/cache/apt gets very large? After reading https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/13116 , (which is set to resolved), I see some people still having problems. This is important to some partitioning decisions I am making.
[20:38] <sebsebseb> Toast: 16GB or so for /  and you should be fine
[20:38] <sebsebseb> Toast: oh and with a seperate home partition
[20:39] <Matr|X> eny help :(
[20:39] <Matr|X> guntbert
[20:39] <zilleplus> hey i reinstalled my ubuntu server8 but can't get internet on it can someone help me??
[20:39] <guntbert> Matr|X: I suppose mdbtools is a package with several files in it, are you using synaptic?
[20:40] <Matr|X> im using ubuntu hardy
[20:40] <papapep> Sal__: what kind of access do you need? read read/write, execution...how often do they change?
[20:40] <silentContender> How do I track a process down using a process ID?
[20:40] <Sal__> read/write
[20:40] <Sal__> papa, i have 100 users
[20:40] <guntbert> Matr|X: I asked about the program for adding/removing software
[20:40] <Toast> sebsebseb: Thanks. This machine has a 10GB drive which will have root and a 40GB drive for swap and home. My debian etch server doesn't automaticly clean out /var/cache/apt, so I wanted to make sure intrepid did. This machine is for a non-technical user so need to be maintaince free :)
[20:40] <Sal__> all storing data across 3 servers
[20:41] <Sal__> i want to give them to ability to mount a share on their home computers
[20:41] <Sal__> with all of their files
[20:41] <Matr|X> im new i dont know wht u talking about
[20:41] <Sal__> but in a lot of cases their files are spread along the 3 servers and not just one
[20:41] <Matr|X> i just apt-get install mdbtools
[20:41] <Guest14629> Hello,everyone does anyone know how i can make the Arora browser work with the plugins such as Flash and such?
[20:41] <Matr|X> with sudo command   , and evry thing gone good
[20:42] <Matr|X> Setting up mdbtools (0.5.99.0.6pre1.0.20051109-4) ...
[20:42] <Matr|X> Processing triggers for libc6 ...
[20:42] <Matr|X> ldconfig deferred processing now taking place
[20:43] <guntbert> Matr|X: ok, I have to look up something, brb
[20:43] <Matr|X> hb
[20:46] <Matr|X> how can i run mdbtools from my ubunto , i had installed the tools but i cant find it
[20:47] <guntbert> Matr|X: try "apt-file list mdbtools", that  should give you a list of installed files
[20:47] <billybigrigger> hahaha why is update manager trying to remove deluge on me?
[20:47] <billybigrigger> 6 packages to be removed
[20:47] <billybigrigger> is this due to the pyhton upgrading?
[20:48] <Matr|X> n**@xob:~$ apt-file list mdbtools
[20:48] <Matr|X> The program 'apt-file' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
[20:48] <Matr|X> sudo apt-get install apt-file
[20:48] <Matr|X> bash: apt-file: command not found
[20:48] <Matr|X> this waht i got bro
[20:48] <bruce89> !flood | Matr|X
[20:48] <Matr|X> ok
[20:50] <Nark> hi there
[20:50] <Nark> how can i go on french help channel?
[20:50] <Nark> please
[20:50] <lstarnes> Nark: /join #ubuntu-fr
[20:50] <Nark> thx
[20:50] <b10h4z4rd> Icon theme does not change completely - what to do ?
[20:51] <Until_It_Sleeps> Is there a movie player for Ubuntu that can play .rmvb/rm files?
[20:51] <rabbit_ubuntu> Hey guys
[20:51] <Nark> bye and good night
[20:51] <rabbit_ubuntu> Night
[20:51] <dayo> Matr|X: sudo aptitude install apt-file
[20:52] <radoen> hi
[20:52] <papapep> Sal__: then perhaps NFS is what you need
[20:52] <Sal__> nFS ?
[20:53] <Until_It_Sleeps> nfs?
[20:53] <dayo> !welcome | radoen
[20:53] <bruce89> !nfs | Sal__
[20:53] <Sal__> network files system
[20:53] <rabbit_ubuntu> Having sound issues all of a sudden. Last night I could hear everything just fine. And now I Cant hear anything. I dont even hear the african instrumental when it boots up. And when I go to "System->Pref->Sound" And change everything to ALSA (i saw it on the net to try it). I still have no sound. ANd when I "run test" I get this error --> audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink: Could not open 
[20:53] <guntbert> Matr|X: you can also use "dpkg -L mdbtools" to get the list of files
[20:54] <brandon_thomson> is it possible to get dialogs for an app to open in the same workspace as that app? Instead of always workspace 1?
[20:54] <Matr|X> after get the list wht i wil do
[20:54] <Sal__> papa i can connect NFS to multiple computers ?
[20:54] <Until_It_Sleeps> Hi, is there a movie player for Ubuntu that can play .rmvb/rm files?
[20:54] <rabbit_ubuntu> Can anyone provide assistance?
[20:54] <papapep> Sal__: you can mount/export any directory from/to any machine
[20:54] <pl_> hi.  how do i switch from using rndis0 to eth0?
[20:54] <dayo> !be
[20:54] <guntbert> !who | Matr|X
[20:55] <dayo> !help | rabbit_ubuntu
[20:56] <guntbert> Matr|X: look at the file names, as you see there is no mdb-tools, but every file under /usr/bin is an executable, you can find out about usage with "man <progname>"
[20:57] <pl_> i installed rndis0 and now my wireless is not working.  how can turn wireless back on?
[20:57] <Matr|X> ok
[20:57] <goliate> bonjour tt le monde
[20:58] <guntbert> !fr | goliate
[20:58] <elmnas> hi guys can someone help me to install my wireless network card please
[20:59] <sebsebseb> !wireless
[20:59] <lvlefisto> hi, ubottu's ubuntu.db published in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots seems to be encrypted or not being a sqlite database: SQL error: file is encrypted or is not a database
[21:00] <Matr|X> !tab guntbert u know eny other way to read one file here is mdb :(
[21:00] <lesshaste> how do I get alt-sysrq to work in ubuntu?
[21:00] <rogue780> I'm having an issue with samba. I just setup ubuntu 8.10 server to be a file server on my home network. I now have it configured to allow access to a share without entering password or username on any of my windows boxes, but my mac mini with mac os x 10.4.11 asks for authentication and then won't connect. my smb.conf is at http://www.pastebin.ca/1356083
[21:00] <royaflash_> hi
[21:01] <Liquid-Man> Hi everyone, quick question...Does Ubuntu Desktop come with the same applications (Apache, MySQL etc) as Ubuntu Server?
[21:01] <E3b> hello all
[21:01] <zash> rogue780: try with "guest only = yes"
[21:02] <lstarnes> Liquid-Man: not by default, but they are also available in the repositories
[21:02] <codeuser> Liquid-Man: Have you asked that for days on end?
[21:02] <Free0ne> Liquid-Man: No
[21:02] <zash> Liquid-Man: the only difference between desktop and server is what packages are pre-installed
[21:02] <codeuser> Liquid-Man: or are you a bot?
[21:02] <Liquid-Man> ok thanks
[21:02] <Liquid-Man> everyone
[21:02] <codeuser> Liquid-Man: I seem to remember you asking that exact question yesterday... and the day before that. Maybe not.
[21:02] <rconan> why would ubuntu (through wubi) stop at an initramfs prompt immediately after install?
[21:02] <rogue780> zash, in the global or the share? and if the share, should i comment out guest ok = Yes ?
[21:02] <guntbert> Matr|X: you type gun<tab> to get guntbert and highlite me :), and yes, I *think* openoffice can read mdb, but I'm not sure
[21:02] <E3b> I have a problem with ubuntu 8.10, when eth0 is go down, ubuntu is frozen... when I plug it and eth0 is up, then it's ok, dmesg:
[21:03] <E3b> [31854.705060] ata4.01: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x6 frozen
[21:03] <Liquid-Man> coduser...not sure if you're a bot or not but first time I've logged into here
[21:03] <codeuser> rconan: If windows tampers at all with WUBI it could happen.
[21:03] <E3b> someone can help me please?
[21:03] <elmnas> can someone help me to install a rtl8187 driver
[21:03] <codeuser> Liquid-Man: Ok, nvm.
[21:03] <Matr|X> i find good way :) to do that "D i copy the file into the windows dirctory then i reastart my computer and use micrsoft  access
[21:03] <rconan> codeuser: it's literally just been installed
[21:03] <royaflash_> hi
[21:03] <codeuser> rconan: I've had to WUBI twice every time for it to work.
[21:03] <royaflash_> hi
[21:03] <codeuser> rconan: I don't much like WUBI.
[21:03] <rconan> what do you mean?
[21:04] <m3gaman> I have been searching google for a "cheatsheet" so to speak on the linux directory structure and have been unable to locate one...if anyone is aware of a location to download a pdf could they point me in the right direction? Thanks
[21:04] <codeuser> rconan: go to windows, add/remove and uninstall it.
[21:04] <codeuser> rconan: then reinstall it.
[21:04] <codeuser> rconan: it should work.
[21:04] <hydrogen18> m3gaman, one moment I havea link
[21:04] <lesshaste> alt-sysrq doesn't seem to do anything at all for me
[21:04] <Gartral> fspot comes up everytime i plug my dap in, and it also mislabels it as a sansa e280. all i want to know, is how too stop fspot from comeing up?
[21:04] <m3gaman> awesome...thank you very much
[21:04] <rconan> codeuser: ok, I'll try it...
[21:04] <hydrogen18> i think this is what you want http://www.debianadmin.com/linux-directory-structure-overview.html
[21:05] <hydrogen18> megaman, you are probably wondering where stuff is stored and where to add stuff
[21:05] <hollywoodb> m3gaman: not a cheatsheet, but good info: http://www.pathname.com/fhs/
[21:05] <guntbert> !files | m3gaman
[21:05] <Flannel> m3gaman: http://www.secguru.com/files/cheatsheet/linux-file-structure.jpg
[21:05] <Matr|X> I lOve Ubuntu  :(
[21:05] <hydrogen18> anyone else here have a dell mini 9?
[21:05] <m3gaman> holy jumpin...thanks a million for all the links you guys..
[21:06] <sanjud> Gartral -> because of udev rules
[21:06] <FFEMTcJ> is it possible to buy a dvi cable splitter of some sort and have one monitor output run two monitors?
[21:06] <Matr|X> thx guys
[21:07] <hydrogen18> FFEMT, yes
[21:07] <Matr|X> about helping :) u all here is so kind
[21:07] <hydrogen18> FFEMT, it is usually an active device
[21:07] <[T]ank> can anyone here recommend a good bluetooth adapter and bluetooth hands free device for use with ubuntu? I already have a jawbone handsfree... but still need a usb bluetooth adapter.
[21:07] <Gartral> sanjud: i dont care if it's part of the kernel, how do i turn it OFF?
[21:07] <Matr|X> but i couldnt read the mdb untel now
[21:07] <FFEMTcJ> hydrogen18: what does active device mean?
[21:07] <hydrogen18> FFEMT, it takes the signal in and regenerates two copies from the source
[21:08] <FFEMTcJ> ok hydrogen18 do i need anything special or just the splitter?
[21:08] <sanjud> Gartral -> well you have to read up on udev,  rules are usually put in   /etc/udev/rules.d/    look among  those scripts where the rule specific to your device is
[21:08] <hydrogen18> the appropriate cables, one cheap place for stuff like you want is www.monoprice.net
[21:08] <FFEMTcJ> hydrogen18 if my video card has two outs, i should be able to turn that into 4 monitors correct?
[21:09] <wonderworld> hey, since intrepid the xorg.conf is nearly empty. so how would i find out which driver is used for graphics on the system?
[21:09] <hydrogen18> Theoretically, but that is highly dependent on the video cards abilities
[21:10] <Gartral> sanjud: my device isn't going to be listed, we haven't written any defaults for sansa devices, (Rockboxed, i should add) and also, _ONLY_ fspot says it's an e280, it's really an e250
[21:10] <[T]ank> or maybe just recommend a good usb bluetooth adapter and I will play with the jawbone hands free
[21:10] <elmnas> please can someone help me I cant install a driver. to my network, I do something wrong..
[21:11] <FFEMTcJ> hydrogen18: an nvidia 8600?
[21:11] <ganymede> can someone look at my dmesg and tell me if there is anything malicious in there? there are some weird UDP checksum errors from suspicious looking IP addresses and a lot of IPv6 errors: http://pastebin.com/d61bafdfc
[21:12] <tooota> hi
[21:12] <sewey> hi
[21:12] <pro1apse> hi guys
[21:13] <pro1apse> so what is everyones favorite console/terminal irc client?
[21:13] <FFEMTcJ> irssi
[21:13] <tooota> waht
[21:13] <ganymede> pro1apse, i don't think surveys are appropriate for this channel
[21:13] <guntbert> !poll | pro1apse
[21:13] <Until_It_Sleeps> Is there any media player for Ubuntu other than RealPlayer that can play rm/rmvb files?
[21:14] <pro1apse> ok sorry i was just curious where to start, thanks anyway
[21:14] <ganymede> Until_It_Sleeps, mplayer can play it if you have a certain something installed, maybe helix player from medibuntu or something
[21:16] <Until_It_Sleeps> How do I get the codec for MPlayer?
[21:16] <pmcclelland> I'm having trouble sharing my vista shares with an ubuntu guest (vmware server 2)
[21:16] <pmcclelland> using cifs to do it
[21:16] <pmcclelland> can see the shares but I can
[21:16] <pmcclelland> can
[21:16] <pmcclelland> can't move anything to the vista drives
[21:16] <guntbert> !enter
[21:16] <pmcclelland> get a memory error
[21:16] <Until_It_Sleeps> lmao
[21:17] <pmcclelland> yeah did that my accident
[21:17] <coincoin161> do you know some DSL with a 2.6 kernel ?
[21:17] <guntbert> !ot | coincoin161
[21:20] <pmcclelland> Running Ubuntu 8.04 (VMWare Server 2.0). Trying to share my Vista shares usig cips. I can mount the shares fine and can access them. The problem I get is when I try to move data to the vista drives. I get a memory allocation error. Has anyone else run into this problem?
[21:22] <sanjud> Gartral-> correct you have not written your own rules, so the sysfs/hotplug system did its best guess to what device you have and what defualt rule it applied
[21:22] <Until_It_Sleeps> Are there any media converters for Ubuntu that can convert Rm/rmvb files to different formats?
[21:22] <pmcclelland> I know the problem is coming from windows but I can't seem to fix it. I have completely opened up my sharing and I ams still getting the same problem.
[21:23] <Gartral> thats very funny, as i have no sansa devices at all where you told me too look
[21:23] <Gartral> @ sanjud
[21:23] <DrHalan> hey, is there a software on ubuntu to convert a string to an md5 hash?
[21:23] <rogue780> zash, http://www.pastebin.ca/1356104
[21:24] <sanjud> Gartral -> system is not perfect, it detected something that is akin to what a sansa device is? so it applied a rule pertaining to sansa
[21:24] <Reenen> if I order a cd from shipit, how up to date is it in terms of patches?
[21:24] <rogue780> zash, mac still no likey
[21:25] <sanjud> Gartral -> thats why i suggested you create your own rule to supercede what the system detects it as, so your rule will prioritize over the default
[21:25] <Gartral> well, its mostly right, but there are no entries _AT ALL_ in /ect/udev/rules.d for anything sansa
[21:25] <guntbert> DrHalan: yes, "md5sum -", then type the string, finish with <ctrl>d
[21:26] <sanjud> Gartral-> it uses regexp so you may not have spotted it easily, but am sure there are rules there, not easy to digest really..
[21:26] <Until_It_Sleeps> Anybody know of any media converters that can convert from RM/RMVB to other formats?
[21:27] <sanjud> Gartral-> again, create your own rule for your specific device and put it at highest priority or lowest number in the /etc/udev/rules.d
[21:27] <Gartral> sanjud: ok, your partially right, now it tries to open f-spot, and nautilus...
[21:27] <rabbit_ubuntu> Later guys
[21:28] <sanjud> Gartral-> i know am right :P...i've been struggling to understand udev rules..lol
[21:29] <NICK2> HOLA
[21:29] <Gartral> ok, reverting that and starting at step one, this thing is annoying me to no end, if i seem "testy" thats why
[21:29] <mennendez> is in ubuntu or in evince a file in which is registered the history of opened files?
[21:30] <mennendez> is there?
[21:30] <Until_It_Sleeps> I'll take this as a no. :'( Well, looks like I'm going with a virtual machine with XP...
[21:31] <balzac> hello
[21:31] <Gartral> mennendez: yes, im sure there is, i just don't know where it is
[21:31] <balzac> I have an audio problem
[21:31] <balzac> I rebooted alsa and it didn't help
[21:31] <prince_jammys> Until_It_Sleeps: mencoder can probably do it, as well as ffmpeg.
[21:31] <rogue780> I'm having an issue with samba. I just setup ubuntu 8.10 server to be a file server on my home network. I now have it configured to allow access to a share without entering password or username on any of my windows boxes, but my mac mini with mac os x 10.4.11 asks for authentication and then won't connect. my smb.conf is at http://www.pastebin.ca/1356104
[21:31] <balzac> I hate rebooting my damned computer like I'm running windows
[21:31] <sebsebseb> lol
[21:31] <balzac> How can I get audio back?
[21:31] <mennendez> gartral: any idea? where I can look for the answer?
[21:31] <Gartral> balzac: 1st off, whats the problem?
[21:32] <balzac> no audio
[21:32] <Gartral> ok, did you have audio before?
[21:32] <balzac> yeah
[21:32] <guntbert> Until_It_Sleeps: did you see http://www.simplehelp.net/2007/07/27/how-to-play-rmvb-files-in-ubuntu/ ?
[21:32] <balzac> And it will be back if I reboot
[21:32] <balzac> but I can restart alsa but it won't fix it
[21:32] <balzac> I've been getting these "media core" errors
[21:32] <Gartral> balzac: do you have pulseaudio installed?
[21:33] <balzac> It's making me paranoid that Microsoft is paying to subvert hardware compatibility drivers in the Linux kernel
[21:33] <balzac> I should install pulse audio?
[21:33] <mennendez> gantral: the problem is that my usb pen destroyed a folder in which I had 20 pdf files- I need to know, at least, the names of those files
[21:33] <balzac> I'll be happy to install it
[21:33]  * _VIM_ hands balzac a tin-foil hat for the paranoia
[21:34] <Until_It_Sleeps> O_O
[21:34]  * Until_It_Sleeps hugs guntbert
[21:34] <Gartral> balzac, no, first lets see if it's installed
[21:34] <sebsebseb> Until_It_Sleeps: are you a guy or girl?
[21:34] <_VIM_> sebsebseb: who cares?
[21:34] <Chaorain> um how do I install a .package file?
[21:34] <balzac> ko
[21:35] <sebsebseb> _VIM_: I ask to do with the hugging.
[21:35] <balzac> thanks Gartral. I'll check that now.
[21:36] <Gartral> balzac: np, if it IS installed, you'll want to remove it, if it's not installed, leave it that way and we'll try a different audio engine
[21:36] <balzac> yes, v 0.9.10
[21:36] <_VIM_> sebsebseb: stop there while you're ahead.
[21:36] <asdasr> hi, i can't install ezmlm on ubuntu server 8.10
[21:36] <asdasr> get this error about libc.so.6?
[21:36] <balzac> I'll remove it
[21:36] <asdasr> anyone familiar with ezmlm?
[21:36] <guntbert> Until_It_Sleeps: nice :) - but really "google is your friend" (searched for rmvb ubuntu, it was the 3rd link)
[21:36] <sebsebseb> _VIM_: what did you mean by that exactly?
[21:36] <balzac> Gartral: looks like it wants to remove a meta-package as well: "Ubuntu Desktop"
[21:36] <eladmeidar> can anyone help me with a cron tab problem? i feel a bit stupid. http://pastie.org/411133
[21:36] <eladmeidar> :)
[21:37] <balzac> ubuntu-desktop
[21:37] <prince_jammys> a) ask question b) assume there's no solution if no answer in 4 minutes c) have someone google obvious keywords d) hug person
[21:37] <rickard> How do I enable VPN in network manager?
[21:37] <Gartral> balzac: hmm, i wonder who the hell built that into it's dependency lists, ok, leave it allone, search OSS and install that
[21:37] <homeskill> whats the diff between init and initd?
[21:38] <_VIM_> sebsebseb: nevermind
[21:38] <Chaorain> how do I install a .package?
[21:38] <jrib> Chaorain: you avoid it
[21:38] <rogue780> I'm having an issue with samba. I just setup ubuntu 8.10 server to be a file server on my home network. I now have it configured to allow access to a share without entering password or username on any of my windows boxes, but my mac mini with mac os x 10.4.11 asks for authentication and then won't connect. my smb.conf is at http://www.pastebin.ca/1356104 can anyone help?
[21:38] <jmcs> balzac you can try executing "killall pulseaudio; pulseaudio" it works for me.
[21:38] <balzac> Install something called OSS?
[21:38] <Chaorain> wrong file type to install with?
[21:38] <balzac> jmcs: I'll try that
[21:39] <Gartral> balzac: yes, OSS is another sound engine
[21:39] <balzac> E: pid.c: Daemon already running.
[21:39] <balzac> E: main.c: pa_pid_file_create() failed.
[21:39] <Gartral> !oss | balzac
[21:40] <RoastedTiresX> Is there a reason I cannot chown to a different user other than root with the folder I created to mount my flash drive to??
[21:41] <Gartral> jmcs: the funny thing about all this is: pulse audio is working fine for me, i haven't hit a single problem
[21:41] <balzac> OSS isn't in the repository
[21:41] <FernandoF> hello
[21:41] <balzac> I should get involved in package management because I'm a connisseur of software
[21:42] <balzac> There's this nice utility in the repos called yeahconsole
[21:42] <guntbert> !welcome | FernandoF
[21:42] <asdasr> anyone?
[21:42] <balzac> it's like yakuake or guake except that it's for xterm
[21:42] <balzac> the problem is, it's broken
[21:42] <FernandoF> I send a message with Firefox, using hotmail and my  text box is received empty on the other side. What could I do? (ubuntu 8.10, Firefox 3.0)
[21:43] <FernandoF> I tryed a forward to myself and I receive it empty as well
[21:43] <balzac> and when I see packages which are broken, I'm reminded that it's a competitive environment and people are lobbying to get their software included or others excluded
[21:43] <rogue780> FernandoF, no use hotmail?
[21:43] <balzac> well, yeahconsole is tiny and it can serve those of us who don't use gnome terminal, but prefer xterm
[21:43] <LjL> !offtopic
[21:44] <balzac> another gripe
[21:44] <FernandoF> sorry rogue780, but it is a very old address and I would like to keep it
[21:44] <Gartral> need to get fspot to stop loading on plugin of my dap, im about to just uninstall it all together
[21:44] <Flannel> FernandoF: Do textboxes work fine on other websites?
[21:44] <RoastedTiresX> Is there a reason I cannot chown to a different user other than root with the folder I created to mount my flash drive to??
[21:44] <balzac> I don't like how there's a channel offered called #ubuntu-offtopic. That sounds like the channel was named by someone who was annoyed about general discussion.
[21:44] <guntbert> asdasr: ezmlm is not in intrepid
[21:45] <lemoon> Hello all
[21:45] <balzac> why not call it #ubuntu-free-discussion instead of #ubuntu-offtopic?
[21:45] <Flannel> balzac: This channel is not for general discussion.  This channel is for support.
[21:45] <balzac> yeah, well I don't feel like using #ubuntu-offtopic either, because the name is just not inviting
[21:45] <onebadboy> !list
[21:46] <balzac> did I just get kicked out?
[21:46] <FernandoF> Flannel, yes they do
[21:46] <LjL> balzac: yes. please stay ontopic
[21:46] <Flannel> balzac: Again, please remain on topic in this channel.  The topic is Ubuntu support.  Not random discussion.  You don't need to go to #ubuntu-offtopic, but you cannot be off topic here.
[21:46] <LjL> FernandoF: http://lifehacker.com/software/hotmail/check-hotmail-using-thunderbird-34583.php  http://www.mozilla.org/support/thunderbird/faq#webmail
[21:46] <balzac> Where's Mr. Shuttleworth? I'll have to tell him his ops are a bit on the testy side.
[21:47] <LjL> FernandoF: there's way to use hotmail from evolution too (apt-cache search hotmail), but i suspect it's easier with thunderbird.
[21:47] <Flannel> FernandoF: The only thing I can think of is that it's a hotmail issue.  Try turning javascript off?  Uh, try the user agent switcher?  I'm not sure.
[21:48] <Flannel> Yeah, there's scrapers for using hotmail with a real mail client.
[21:48] <FernandoF> Flannel and rogue780 i used to have problems under hotmail which were I was not able to write as text box was blocked for writing ...after a hard fight i have now the possibility to write, but after sending , text is empy. And it is empty even if i simply forward and do not write
[21:49] <Huufarted> Anybody know how to make iptables list the port NUMBERS instead of the name?  (80 instead of www), etc?
[21:50] <Flannel> FernandoF: Unfortunately, that sounds like a hotmail problem (with their html or whatever)
[21:50] <LjL> Huufarted: sure, -n
[21:50] <guntbert> Huufarted: read man iptables, but I guess its -n
[21:50] <brandon_thomson> is it possible to get dialogs for an app to open in the same workspace as that app? Instead of always workspace 1?
[21:50] <Huufarted> LjL, thanks.  :)
[21:50] <RoastedTiresX> Is there a reason I cannot chown to a different user other than root with the folder I created to mount my flash drive to??
[21:50] <Huufarted> iptables -Ln
[21:50] <bruce89> !repeat | brandon_thomson
[21:50] <Huufarted> wow I'm retarded
[21:51] <acalbaza> anyone know anything about the following error in dmesg : "powernow-k8: failing targ, change pending bit set"
[21:51] <bruce89> !offend | Huufarted
[21:51] <Flannel> bruce89: erm, bruce89 hasn't said anything in almost an hour.
[21:51] <Flannel> er, brandon_thomson
[21:51] <Huufarted> bruce89, it's going to be pretty hard for me to offend myself.
[21:52] <bruce89> true
[21:52] <bruce89> I just like getting the bots involved
[21:52] <babo> I've downloaded an iso of windows2000 server. it's 1.8 GB. i need to burn the iso, what's the best way to go about it ?
[21:52] <Flannel> bruce89: Please don't abuse the bots, or the rest of the people in this channel.
[21:52] <bruce89> !burn | babo
[21:52] <bruce89> Flannel: charming
[21:53] <m3gaman> just wondering if there is a way to force an application to start on bootup (sort of like in windows how you could place the app in the startup folder)...any help would be appreciated Thanks
[21:53] <babo> bruce89, i just get insufficient media space whenever i try to do it
[21:53] <Gartral> k3b is amazing, sama as amarok!
[21:53] <bruce89> you'll need to use a DVD
[21:53] <hollywoodb> m3gaman: depends.  /etc/rc.local is for things that start on boot (non-GUI), your desktop environment (Gnome) handles things that start when you log in
[21:53] <prince_jammys> !startup > m3gaman
[21:54] <m3gaman> awesome, thanks for the help guys
[21:54] <RoastedTiresX> Is there a reason I cannot chown to a different user other than root with the folder I created to mount my flash drive to??
[21:55] <sprinkmeier_> RoastedTiresX, UID/GID of  mounted directories are typiclly controlled by mount options, not chown/chgrp
[21:56] <RoastedTiresX> sprinkmeier - Then I don't see what the difference is. I did that to my 3 sata backup drives.  Yet I can't do it to my flash drive.
[21:56] <sparr> In firefox, or system-wide, how can I redirect all requests for http://foo.com:88 to http://foo.com:80 ?
[21:56] <deany> babo, sounds like you got something else...1,8gig for windows ?  even the 3 in 1 win2000 pro/server/advanced wasnt that big
[21:56] <albatr0ss> hello. I'd like to ask something. can I?
[21:56] <sprinkmeier_> sparr, transparent proxy?
[21:56] <ubuntu_> grrah fucking gnome xchat auto-connect shit
[21:57] <sparr> sprinkmeier_: last resort
[21:57] <prince_jammys> albatr0ss: yes, ask a detailed question, all in one line, and somebody might help
[21:57] <bruce89> !ohmy | ubuntu_
[21:57] <lesshaste> how do you get alt-sysrq to work in X? It seems X maps the keyboard in some way that disables it.
[21:57] <albatr0ss> I replaced my swap partition with a swapfile. how do I find its UUID?
[21:57] <albatr0ss> so I can add it to fstab
[21:58] <sprinkmeier_> sparr, iptables? it'll trigger on IP address rather than hostname, but it might work
[21:58] <prince_jammys> albatr0ss: sudo blkid
[21:58] <albatr0ss> thanks.
[21:58] <sparr> sprinkmeier_: ok, could do that.  not sure how to change ports, though
[21:58] <homeskill> does ubuntu 8.10 use the 'upstart' version of init?
[21:59] <tonsofpcs> anyone know of a good way to check what is bogging down my network?
[21:59] <RoastedTiresX> sprinkmeier - how can I take ownership of my mounted flash drive then? I've do ne it with my SATA drives so I know it's possible.
[21:59] <RoastedTiresX> ls -l
[21:59] <guntbert> prince_jammys: blkid works on a file too?
[21:59] <RoastedTiresX> oops
[21:59] <Dracie> woops
[21:59] <sprinkmeier_> sparr, been a while since I've done such mangling... IIRC you  need the POSTROUTING table.
[21:59] <Ax-Ax> Actually, I did type not
[22:00] <Ax-Ax> but whatever
[22:00] <chris4585> so will CNR be in upcoming ubuntu releases? A friend says it will be... and I doubt him, some clarification?
[22:00] <sprinkmeier_> RoastedTiresX, How did it get mounted? if >1 users are logged on then sometimes there's a race-condition and one of the other users will 'own' it.
[22:00] <prince_jammys> guntbert: no, missed that part.
[22:00] <pbeanbag> hi folks can anyone tell me how to get my laptop screen to come on again? it juust went black after signing off
[22:00] <guntbert> !ot | chris4585
[22:00] <Flannel> chris4585: No.  As far as I'm aware that whole deal fizzled out.
[22:00] <RoastedTiresX> sprinkmeier - It was auto-mounted to "disk" or something like that, so I unmounted it by sudo umount. Then I tried to remount it to the directory I chose for it. I'm just trying to conduct a simple test - I don't need it to mount here automatically in the future.
[22:00] <bruce89> chris4585: I sincerly hope not
[22:01] <billybigrigger> chris4585, #ubuntu+1 is a good channel to ask aswell
[22:01] <bruce89> only for Jaunty though
[22:01] <chris4585> thanks Flannel
[22:01] <Flannel> billybigrigger, chris4585: not really.  This channel works, or #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:02] <sprinkmeier_> RoastedTiresX, file-system o the disk? If it's FAT/NTFS then you need to pass UID/GID options on the mount-command. If it's ext2 (or something else UNIX-y) then I usually just create a directory on the disk, chown it to me and then all is well.
[22:02] <zulixp> which procam can convert videos for my cell phone?
[22:02] <zulixp> ups,  program
[22:02] <_Whipper__> vcl
[22:02] <tom760> Ubuntu has gcc 4.3.1-1 installed.  Would it be easy to add version 4.1.2 on my system as well?  If not, what about to replace 4.3.1-1 with 4.1.2?
[22:02] <_Whipper__> clv
[22:02] <_Whipper__> dmn :)
[22:02] <chris4585> suggestion a different channel for something thats very much on topic is a little annoying </RANT> :p
[22:02] <zulixp> VLC?
[22:02] <Gartral> what does UPS have to do with your cell phone?
[22:03] <bruce89> tom760: why do you need gcc 4.1?
[22:03] <_Whipper__> jep
[22:03] <RoastedTiresX> sprinkmeier - Bingo. It's FAT32 on the flash drive and my SATA drives are EXT3.
[22:03] <crx686> I'm having trouble getting my wireless card to work, I'm using ndsiwrapper and everything went fine it installed fine the device is present it shows up in network tools and ifconfig says it is up and running but i still can't connect to my router. I tried manually i tried it on automatic it seems to see it but nothing is happening any one can help me?? thnaks
[22:03] <zulixp> ok, tnx :)
[22:03] <RoastedTiresX> sprinkmeier - How woul dI go about that? Basically I want to chagne the mounted permissions of my FAT32 flash drive to be owned by someone other than root.
[22:03] <gabbah> i have ubuntu 8.10 installed. I want to run kde4.2. Should i reinstall to kubuntu 8.10 or is it practically the same to just install kde4.2 on the current installation? Can I still run all the programs like normal or what will happen?
[22:04] <_Whipper__> crx6: many possibilities there..
[22:04] <pbeanbag> crx what kind of card i had to get my verizon to work on here
[22:04] <rogue780> I'm having an issue with samba. I just setup ubuntu 8.10 server to be a file server on my home network. I now have it configured to allow access to a share without entering password or username on any of my windows boxes, but my mac mini with mac os x 10.4.11 asks for authentication and then won't connect. my smb.conf is at http://www.pastebin.ca/1356104 can anyone help?
[22:04] <billybigrigger> gabbah, yes you can install kde
[22:04] <billybigrigger> gabbah, everything will work fine
[22:04] <tom760> bruce89: another Linux PC, which I don't want to change, is running 4.1.2 and I want to try distcc with it and my Ubuntu desktop.  It seems like a good learning experience to.  Soon I want to read up on the different GCC versions and maybe I'll swap the other PC to a newer one.
[22:04] <gabbah> billybigrigger, but if i install kubuntu, doesn't in have different apps?
[22:04] <billybigrigger> gabbah, when you get to the login screen you can change you session to either gnome or kde
[22:04] <billybigrigger> gabbah, somewhat
[22:05] <billybigrigger> gabbah, if your not ever going to use gnome again, you could reinstall kubuntu
[22:05] <bruce89> tom760: there is little difference between gcc versions
[22:05] <gabbah> billybigrigger, and are the apps bound to gnome or kde?
[22:05] <billybigrigger> gabbah, but having them both co-exist is perfectly fine too
[22:05] <bruce89> tom760: as long as you write standard C
[22:05] <billybigrigger> gabbah, no afaik you can use kde apps in gnome and gnome apps in kde, someone correct me if im wrong
[22:06] <gwtl> where can I find help with wi-fi drivers?
[22:06] <crx686> pbeanbag: its a linksys wireless card wpc54g ver 3 for PMICA
[22:06] <sebsebseb> !wireless
[22:06] <billybigrigger> gabbah, for example i use k3b (kde burning app) in gnome no probs, but thats about the only kde app i've tried
[22:06] <gabbah> billybigrigger, the only con is that it will take up some more space to have gnome installed also.... no differance in performance right?
[22:06] <tom760> bruce89: actually I just realized it wont work the way I was thinking.  One PC is running amd64, other is i686.  I guess I need a cross compiler
[22:06] <gwtl> ok
[22:06] <gwtl> ill try that thanks
[22:06] <billybigrigger> gabbah, correct
[22:07] <billybigrigger> gabbah, but you will have both gnome and kde install so of course your taking up more room
[22:07] <bruce89> tom760: AFAIK gcc can cross-compile between i386 and AMD64, can't remember how though
[22:07] <gabbah> yeah, but they're not loaded at the same time right
[22:07] <titusg> I upgraded to intrepid and now I keep getting logged out. I reconfigured X but it didn't fix it
[22:07] <sprinkmeier_> RoastedTiresX, NMI, back now.
[22:07] <tom760> bruce89: Oh ya?  Cool, I'll give that a try.
[22:07] <failers> when does 9.04 get released as full release?
[22:08] <gabbah> billybigrigger, hmm but think i remember that if u want to run a kde app in gnome, you must install some kde libs as well.. and performance wouldn't be as good
[22:08] <bruce89> tom760: see multilib
[22:08] <Flannel> failers: The end of a
[22:08] <Flannel> failers: April
[22:08] <pbeanbag> crx my buddy got my verizon card to work by using a sprint driver try their website i dunno jack  but just thought id let you know
[22:08] <failers> ok
[22:08] <sprinkmeier_> RoastedTiresX, from mount manpage, use the uid= and gid= parameters to the mount command.
[22:08] <bruce89> tom760: but it's probably easier to just compile stuff on each individually
[22:08] <RoastedTiresX> sprinkmeier - how do I find UID and GID? In users and groups?
[22:09] <gabbah> billybigrigger, one more question. do u know what the differance is between the kubuntu download that is a cd 700 mb, and the dvd that is 3,2 gigs? (via bittorrent)
[22:09] <tom760> Bruce: ok, thanks.  ya, but i've never used distcc, so that will be fun to try.
[22:09] <sprinkmeier_> RoastedTiresX, run "id"
[22:09] <sprinkmeier_> RoastedTiresX, then something like "mount -o uid=xxx,gid=yyy /dev/sd?? /mnt/whatever"
[22:10] <billybigrigger> gabbah, just more packages on the dvd, use that if you have poopy internet connection, if you have fast internet, just get the iso and install whatever packages you need from apt
[22:10] <Flannel> gabbah: The DVD has the Desktop CD and Alternate CD boot options as options.  Then the DVD also has more packages.
[22:10] <billybigrigger> Flannel, good to know
[22:10] <gwtl> how do I get ubuntu to see my wi-fi card?
[22:10] <billybigrigger> Flannel, that must be a kubuntu only thing eh? combining desk and alt cd's?
[22:10] <Flannel> gabbah: by Desktop and Alternate, I mean it has a LiveCD and a text mode installer as boot options.
[22:11] <Flannel> billybigrigger: No, the Ubuntu DVD has the same
[22:11] <gabbah> billybigrigger, Flannel hehe well i have 30Mbit connection so that's not a problem... the thing is i'm out of cds and have only dvds to burn on. can u burn a cd image on a dvd? :P
[22:11] <sprinkmeier_> gabbah, also consider doing the initial install w/o internet connection. If the 'net is connected then the installer will try to download and apply patches during install.
[22:11] <Zeldarock> guys I have a question about mailing lists
[22:11] <Flannel> gabbah: You can.
[22:11] <billybigrigger> gabbah, yes you can burn a cd image on dvd
[22:11] <gabbah> Flannel, ah, live cd is actually good
[22:11] <gabbah> oh cool
[22:11] <Flannel> Zeldarock: mailing lists for what?
[22:11] <RoastedTiresX> thanks, sprinkmeier!
[22:11] <Zeldarock> ubuntu
[22:11] <gabbah> thanks guys
[22:11] <zulixp> gwtl, you should use ndisgtk utility, which forces Windows Wireless card drivers
[22:12] <gwtl> I dont have a .ini driver file
[22:12] <gwtl> only a exe
[22:12] <Datz1> Hello, When I try to open a MP3 file with Totem> "Movie Player" the player opens, but closes right away after.
[22:12] <zulixp> download it
[22:12] <titusg> why does intrepid keep logging me out? I already reconfigured X.
[22:12] <bruce89> !tab | tom760
[22:12] <zulixp> they need a driver INF file
[22:12] <gwtl> the only thing I find is a linux driver
[22:12] <gwtl> wich
[22:12] <billybigrigger> Datz1, you could open a terminal and try totem file.mp3 and see what error it spits out
[22:12] <gwtl> is supposedly allready in the 2.6 kernel
[22:13] <jumar> whats your cards name gwtl
[22:13] <jumar> ?
[22:13] <gwtl> canyon CH-WF518
[22:13] <digno> hi.. anyone knows how I can get a ati radeon hd3450 gfx card up and running with 2 monitors on ubuntu 8.10 ? :)
[22:13] <Datz1> billybigrigger: thanks I will try it
[22:13] <Milligan> After updating firefox, it seems to freeze when I go to i.e youtube.. anyone else experience that ?
[22:14] <Zeldarock> From what I've read, it seems that the Ubntu-devel list is the list for alpha beta distros for ubuntu, is that right?
[22:14] <LSD200> Milligan: sounds like a flash player issue
[22:14] <zulixp> gwtl, maybe is a way to extract exe file contents
[22:14] <tom760> bruce89: Ya, sorry, wasn't paying attention.  I defaulted to first auto-completion nick I guess.  "Bruce" is another user in this chan to.
[22:14] <billybigrigger> LSD200, Milligan does it happen when you visit other non-flash sites?
[22:14] <pbeanbag> crx mine was installed as a telephone not a wireless card   we had to put in phone no   and get a password from vendor then when it said connection cancelled we went to file and unchrcked work offline try that
[22:15] <bruce89> tom760: ah
[22:15] <Flannel> Zeldarock: Its for development discussions.  What sort of list are you looking for?
[22:15] <billybigrigger> LSD200, Milligan or just youtube?
[22:15] <gwtl> well, there's supposed to allready be a driver in the kernel,
[22:15] <gwtl> but
[22:15] <gwtl> I don't know how to use it
[22:15] <Zeldarock> a list that will inform me of alpha/beta releases and link me to them
[22:15] <jumar> gwtl, check out this site at ubuntu, and use it with your xp driver you got from canyon websit: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[22:15] <gwtl> (I tried extracting the exe)
[22:15] <pbeanbag> can anyone tell me how to get my laptop screen to come back on it is too dull to read
[22:15] <gwtl> ok
[22:15] <gwtl> thanks
[22:15] <zulixp> do you foun INF file?
[22:16] <gwtl> I'll try that
[22:16] <gwtl> no
[22:16] <Flannel> Zeldarock: you're looking for u-d-a: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-announce
[22:16] <jumar> on linux you cant extract the exe, it must be a dll you need or something like that, if you want to get that you need a windows box or install wine with synaptic
[22:16] <zulixp> Ok, let's try jumar's idea
[22:16] <Milligan> billybigrigger, LSD200 , seems like flash sites,yeah.
[22:17] <gwtl> ah
[22:17] <crx686> PBEANBAG: Mines a little different my computer can see the card but for some reason it doesnt want to connect or see any of my routers. I know my router works cause my other ubuntu machine is running off of wireless and it works but thanks for your help
[22:17] <billybigrigger> Milligan, ya then LSD200 is right, sounds like a flashplayer problem, this just started happening after a firefox update?
[22:17] <jumar> open the exe with wine
[22:17] <gwtl> just normally?
[22:17] <gwtl> (just run it?)
[22:17] <bruce89> !info unshield
[22:17] <billybigrigger> Milligan, what version of ff and flash? and what version of ubuntu? 32bit? 64bit?
[22:17] <gwtl> or should I try extracting it?
[22:17] <BrandonB> Whenever I load Ubuntu, it freezes up, it lets me sign in after a long wait, then another long wait and it gets stuck on a black screen with a loading cursor
[22:18] <jumar> yes, its a normal windows installation that goes through and afterwards you have to find the right file, as on the site i mentioned
[22:18] <sexcopter> hi, i have an ssh question. i normally do "ssh james@192.168.1.101" to tap into my pc from my laptop (when at home). I'm not sure, but can I call it by hostname instead of ip address? I tried "ssh james@jamesdellpc", but it said "ssh: Could not resolve hostname jamesdellpc: Name or service not known"
[22:18] <dezooyi> #ubuntu-ps3
[22:18] <nabilelisa> hi all - i have a corrupt usb hdd that i need to try and recover.  does anybody know how i can mount a usb drive in readonly mode?
[22:18] <pbeanbag> crx  i know this sounds dumb  but is your y fi off?
[22:18] <jumar> gwtl, you cant extract exe on linux
[22:18] <billybigrigger> sexcopter, you have to add your pc into /etc/hosts
[22:18] <zulixp> gwtl, write this comand in to a terminal without quotes "sudo lshw -c network"
[22:18] <billybigrigger> sexcopter, so like 192.168.1.101  james
[22:19] <sexcopter> billybigrigger: ahh... so it looks up hostnames and resolve like that... ok thanks!
[22:19] <gwtl> okay, what does it do?
[22:19] <billybigrigger> sexcopter, open up a terminal, then sudo nano /etc/hosts and then add that line in there
[22:19] <blocky> If I have a ubuntu system installed and I want to install XP dual boot, what is the easiest way to boot my ubuntu and recreate the bootloader after XP install clobbers it?
[22:19] <billybigrigger> sexcopter, then ctrl-o to save the file and ctrl-x to close nano
[22:19] <zulixp> it shows your network hardware
[22:19] <genii> !mbr
[22:19] <billybigrigger> sexcopter, no problem
[22:19] <BrandonB> :s
[22:20] <genii> blocky: See bot's links above on the subject
[22:20] <sexcopter> billybigrigger: ok, thanks. i can do that. my only concern now is that i need to ensure static ip addresses for that to work, and last time i tried, there was some silly bug with network-manager that made this impossible with a wired connection.... =/
[22:20] <gwtl> ah, interresting
[22:20] <Milligan> billybigrigger, ubuntu 8.10 32 bit. FF 3.0.7 Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.0.7) Gecko/2009030422 Ubuntu/8.10 (intrepid) Firefox/3.0.7. Flashplayer 10.
[22:20] <BrandonB> Whenever I load Ubuntu, it freezes up, it lets me sign in after a long wait, then another long wait and it gets stuck on a black screen with a loading cursor, then I have to reboot windows in "Last known configuration that worked"
[22:20] <neurobuntu> Is it possible to upload photos from FSpot to blogger?
[22:20] <gwtl> zulixp: it seems wlan might just be active
[22:20] <gwtl>  *-network:1
[22:20] <bruce89> neurobuntu: yes
[22:20] <gwtl>        description: Wireless interface
[22:20] <billybigrigger> sexcopter, how about through your router? and have the router assign static ips through MAC address?
[22:20] <gwtl>        physical id: 2
[22:20] <gwtl>        logical name: wlan0
[22:20] <zulixp> what it shows?
[22:20] <gwtl>        serial: 00:0e:2e:d5:36:24
[22:20] <gwtl>        capabilities: ethernet physical wireless
[22:21] <gwtl>        configuration: broadcast=yes multicast=yes wireless=IEEE 802.11bg
[22:21] <neurobuntu> bruce89, how?
[22:21] <zulixp> then try ifconfig
[22:21] <bruce89> neurobuntu: it might be an extension
[22:21] <Guest37352> Is there a problem with sharing from ubuntu to windows machines that do not share the subfolders?
[22:21] <gwtl> hehe, seems I pasted too much
[22:21] <BrandonB> :s
[22:21] <bruce89> neurobuntu: File>Export
[22:21] <sexcopter> billybigrigger: alas, no. i have a linksys router and as i understand it, they're one of the few left that don't support ip by mac address. grrrr.
[22:22] <BrandonB> Whenever I load Ubuntu, it freezes up, it lets me sign in after a long wait, then another long wait and it gets stuck on a black screen with a loading cursor, then I have to reboot windows in "Last known configuration that worked"   THis is driving me crazy, can someone help me?
[22:22] <zulixp> ifconfig shows active network connections
[22:22] <gwtl> wlan seems active
[22:22] <gwtl> but 0 packets
[22:22] <neurobuntu> bruce89, so I don't see an export option for blogger just: Picasa Web, Flikr, Web Album ... no  blogger
[22:22] <sexcopter> billybigrigger: though i have toyed with trying alternative firmware. i'm just a little edgy about doing that kind of stuff when it's not really broken. i think i'll just specify ip addresses for now until i can afford to replace a router if i brick it ;)
[22:23] <bruce89> neurobuntu: blogger is picasa web
[22:23] <zulixp> which tipe of network you're connected to the internet?
[22:23] <ingo86> hi all
[22:23] <Guest37352> Brandon you are dual booting?
[22:23] <jumar> gwtl, for wifi connection, you gotta shut down first your cable
[22:23] <neurobuntu> bruce89, blogger stores the pictures on a picasa webalbum but posting a picture to blogger is different then posting it to picasa
[22:23] <jumar> connection
[22:23] <ingo86> i have a problem with nautilus: when i try to open a file it doesn't show my network folder, i can only open a file on my machine
[22:23] <billybigrigger> sexcopter, hehe router's are cheap but ya i see where your comin from...wait till jaunty i guess then cause i have my wired machines static ip'd
[22:23] <gwtl> why?
[22:23] <BrandonB> Yes I am Dual Booting
[22:23] <gwtl> shouldn't it work with both on?
[22:23] <zulixp> or just remove RJ-45 conncetor from your PC
[22:23] <neurobuntu> bruce89, for example, when up upload to blogger it creates a new blog post  which doesn't happen when you upload to picasa
[22:23] <jumar> for me only that works, its stupid, maybe its just my fault, anybody?
[22:24] <BrandonB> Using Wubi
[22:24] <bruce89> neurobuntu: not really
[22:24] <ingo86> anyone knows how can i make nautilus show the network folders too?
[22:24] <sexcopter> billybigrigger: really? i'll be very happy to see that resolved in jaunty!
[22:24] <Guest37352> the windows install works fine?
[22:24] <bruce89> neurobuntu: well, there's no way to do what you're after
[22:24] <billybigrigger> sexcopter, ya im running alpha 5 and it works for me
[22:24] <neurobuntu> bruce89, so its not possible to post directly to blogger from fspot?
[22:24] <gwtl> as far as I know one can have multiple connections at the same time
[22:24] <BrandonB> Yes the windows install works fine
[22:24] <bruce89> neurobuntu: nope
[22:25] <bruce89> billybigrigger: that's not quite true
[22:25] <zulixp> gwtl, open Network tools under system>administration
[22:25] <crx686> pbeanbag you mean wireless or the router? what do you mean? there both on
[22:25] <jumar> try that, if it dont work you can always reconnect the cabel, also there's that small network icon of nm-applet, try left clicking it to see wether it sees any wifi
[22:26] <gwtl> ok
[22:26] <Guest37352> have you ever had the wubi work fine?
[22:26] <BrandonB> No
[22:26] <khaije1> i have
[22:26] <BrandonB> It installed fine
[22:26] <BrandonB> But when it rebooted, its having issues
[22:26] <khaije1> wubi is v nice imho
[22:26] <zulixp> Guest37352, yes, I have
[22:26] <BrandonB> It freezes before it loads
[22:26] <BrandonB> (is it because of my graphics card?)
[22:27] <zulixp> BrandonB, you should remove compiz
[22:27] <BrandonB> Its not on :\
[22:27] <BrandonB> I cant even get to the desktop yet
[22:27] <Guest37352> I am not sure how wubi works but from a quick glance on their website it seems to run under windows so it is not a dual boot.  you should be able to see some errors in the windows even log.
[22:28] <gwtl> ah!, It works half-way
[22:28] <BrandonB> Nope :\ It doesnt
[22:28] <zulixp> Ok, restart computer and boot in to recovery mode, then wait, and then choose "drop root shell prompt"
[22:28] <Gartral> whats with compiz being so troublesome :\
[22:28] <BrandonB> :|
[22:28] <BrandonB> Recovery mode?
[22:28] <BrandonB> :\
[22:29] <rogue780> I'm having an issue with samba. I just setup ubuntu 8.10 server to be a file server on my home network. I now have it configured to allow access to a share without entering password or username on any of my windows boxes, but my mac mini with mac os x 10.4.11 asks for authentication and then won't connect. my smb.conf is at http://www.pastebin.ca/1356104 can anyone help?
[22:29] <jumar> ehy half-way?
[22:29] <jumar> why, i mean
[22:29] <zulixp> and then "sudo apt-get remove compiz" and "sudo apt-get remove compiz-core"
[22:29] <BrandonB> Ok
[22:29] <Flannel> zulixp: You can just do sudo apt-get remove compiz compiz-core
[22:29] <BrandonB> Cant I run it like, low graphics mode?
[22:30] <zulixp> yes
[22:30] <zulixp> it will be a low graphics mode
[22:30] <computer_> how can i make a backup copy of my encrypted /boot and bootloader from my usb key?
[22:30] <neurobuntu> Does anybody know of blogger programs in linux?
[22:30] <BrandonB> :\
[22:31] <zulixp> I suggest do it if you have very weak graphics hardware
[22:31] <BrandonB> Should I upgrade my graphics card?
[22:31] <BrandonB> Its not weak :| Its built in
[22:31] <computer_> !blog
[22:31] <zulixp> BrandonB, what VGA you have?
[22:31] <gwtl> zulixp:
[22:31] <BrandonB> One sec
[22:31] <titusg> Why is that I *always* regret upgrading? Intrepid takes much longer to boot with wireless connections and it keeps logging me out every 10 minutes :-(
[22:31] <gwtl> what do I don next?
[22:31] <FFEMTcJ> is there a cli way to list all installed packages?
[22:31] <bruce89> computer_: encrypted /boot? That's asking for trouble
[22:32] <zulixp> gwtl, you can surf to the web
[22:32] <Gartral> BrandonB: built-in, ussually, equals weak
[22:32] <zulixp> ?
[22:32] <bruce89> !info gnome-blog | neurobuntu
[22:32] <gwtl> hehe, ok
[22:32] <TaG^> how do you patch or edit a *.h file?
[22:33] <neurobuntu> bruce89, thanks
[22:33] <jumbers> Hey guys, I'm looking to send a command to my iPod Touch (run rs) via libusb. How would I go about interfacing with the device using libusb?
[22:33] <bruce89> TaG^: like normal
[22:33] <bruce89> TaG^: it's just a C header
[22:33] <TaG^> bruce89 sorry i am new..
[22:33] <zulixp> Ok, i'll go take a some smoke
[22:33] <BrandonB> Its a normal, built in one
[22:33] <BrandonB> Intel
[22:33] <bruce89> TaG^: what do you mean by patch?
[22:33] <zulixp> buy new vga
[22:34] <BrandonB> I might do that
[22:34] <sizzlefire> Hello all, I have a problem, my computer wont boot up, it goes to a black screen after the ubuntu loading screen
[22:34] <BrandonB> But my PC is one of those smaller ones
[22:34] <BrandonB> Sizzle Fire
[22:34] <BrandonB> Thats my problem to
[22:34] <TaG^> bruce89 edit some line in the *.h
[22:34] <bruce89> TaG^: ah, you don't mean apply a patch
[22:34] <zulixp> Which type of PC you have (desktop, laptop)
[22:34] <sizzlefire> BrandonB, what does yours do?
[22:35] <sizzlefire> turn black and just stop loading?
[22:35] <TaG^> bruce89 can i open in a txt editor?
[22:35] <bruce89> TaG^: of course
[22:35] <titusg> sizzlefire: what about recovery mode?
[22:35] <BrandonB> It goes to a black screen with a wierd curser
[22:35] <baz_> the *man* page i am looking at says "See  the  options  section of the mount.cifs(8) man page" - how exactly do i do that
[22:36] <Datz1> I get this output when I try to play a MP3 with totem. Totem opens and closes right away: http://pastebin.com/m3922d24c
[22:36] <sizzlefire> tried recover mode, but it will let me in, but after that Ive tried cleaning up broken packages, and everything else there, nothing helped
[22:36] <zulixp> BrandonB, just upgrade graphics hardware, and all be OK
[22:36] <computer_> how can i make a backup copy of my /boot and bootloader from my usb key?
[22:37] <gnutron> baz_: man 8 mount
[22:37] <jumbers> Does anybody know how to connect to a USB device and push it a command from the terminal?
[22:37] <pjsturgeon> samba issue, I have two shares. One is a symlink, one is not. They both use the same global settings. why does the non-symlink share work and the symlink not allow me write access? they both have 777 files, 775 folders and root ownership
[22:37] <titusg> sizzlefire: you probably need to add a boot option to the end of the relevant line in /boot/grub/menu.lst, but I wouldn't know which one
[22:37] <titusg> sizzlefire: e.g. acpi=off
[22:38] <Hayloe> does anybody know alot about networking and would like to help me? im a newbie to linux.
[22:38] <sizzlefire> alright, how do i get to the boot options, I have the computer in front of me
[22:38] <cha0s> Hayloe, what is your question
[22:38] <Datz1> Totem actually doesn't play any files I open with it, it just closes right away. Can someone help me fix this?
[22:38] <titusg> sizzlefire: log into recovery mode and sudo vi /boot/grus/menu.lst
[22:38] <baz_> gnutron, that seemed to bring back into the same mount page without cifs specific instructions?
[22:38] <sizzlefire> also, i tried putting in the livecd, and when i did that, it didnt help at all, it wouldnt even let me to a GUI interface, it just gave a bunch of errors
[22:38] <kavurt> when I try to join the #ubuntu or #kubuntu rooms using mibbit.com, it joins #ubuntu-proxy-users room. what should I do?
[22:39] <Hayloe> well im trying to setup ICS to run my xbox 360 through my laptop, which is connected wirelessly, I searched google for like hours and did a bunch of different things that pretty much made me reinstall ubuntu because i messed it up so bad :P I just want to know what to do to get ICS working
[22:39] <_Whipper__> sizzle: try a different live, like puppy or dsl..
[22:39] <turtle_> Hayloe, you need a reason for networking
[22:40] <sizzlefire> i tried fedora, damn small and linuxmint, it skipped all but linuxmint, and linuxmint wouldnt work also
[22:40] <turtle_> Hayloe,nvrmnd
[22:40] <sizzlefire> linuxmint gave the same errors as ubuntu live if i remember correctly
[22:40] <Hayloe> im on a fresh install of ubuntu, installing updates now, my connection to the internet is wlan0 and my ethernet, which my xbox is plugged into is eth0
[22:40] <kc8pxy> heya guys. I'm trying to setup a couple of livecd's (most of them, ubuntu) to boot off my pxe server. i found a howto, and i have it working well enough that i get the "knightrider" loading screen,  but it appears to stall there. switching to tty1 shows that it's stuck at "Loading, please wait...."
[22:40] <_Whipper__> sizzle: sounds like u have a Hardware prob..
[22:40] <kc8pxy> how do i get a full boot?
[22:40] <Datz1> billybigrigger: did you see the pastebin?
[22:41] <titusg> sizzlefire: a common reason for that is boot options again, maybe vga
[22:41] <sizzlefire> kk, im getting into the boot menu now
[22:41] <_Whipper__> sizzle: check your bios too..
[22:42] <sizzlefire> what should i check in my bios? i did make sure that the CD was to boot before the harddrive, but other than that im not sure what to change
[22:43] <_Whipper__> sizzle: dont change anything then, if u dont know
[22:43] <Datz1> Can someone help me get totem "Movie Player" working?
[22:43] <Hayloe> so could anybody help with my dilemma?
[22:43] <sizzlefire> if i could just completely wipe the harddrive and start again it would be nice, but im not sure how to get that
[22:43] <sizzlefire> Whipper: I know enough to not mess anything up if you can tell me what to check for
[22:43] <baz_> let me rephrase, i am having trouble with this... i have a line in fstab that I would like to mount by running a mount command rather than using fstab, following is the fstab line, what is the equivalent mount command: //192.168.0.199/downloads /media/Diskstation cifs username=myusername,password=mypassword,uid=1000,gid=100,umask=000   0 0
[22:44] <TaG^> how do i find this file in my system? r8188.h
[22:44] <_Whipper__> sizzle: run puppy, or some other <100mg live, gpart
[22:44] <sprinkmeier_> TaG^, "locate r8188.h"
[22:44] <sizzlefire> Whipper: so i need to burn one of them to a CD and then use it?
[22:44] <TaG^> ok.. thanks
[22:45] <beowulf_lives> is the ndiswrapper forums not working for anybody else?
[22:45] <_Whipper__> sizzle: just google puppy or dsl, both have gparted and tools to wipe u clean :)
[22:45] <sprinkmeier_> TaG^, that assumes that it's been indexed. If not (i.e. it's new, not on index path etc) use "find / -name  r8188.h" or somesuch
[22:45]  * Datz1 removes totem because it seems buggy
[22:45] <unperson> Hi.  I'm trying to mount my software (mdadm) raid partitions from the live cd.  I've installed the mdadm package, but what is the magic incantation to have it find and mount all my raid partitions?  (I seem to remember there is one.)
[22:45] <thatVMguy> hey guys?
[22:46] <sizzlefire> Whipper: i already have DSL on a dvd, but when I plug it in it doesnt do anything
[22:46] <thatVMguy> i seem to be having trouble reading my rAID-0 drive
[22:46] <sizzlefire> it tries to load it at first, then it just goes to grub, and then eventually ubuntu
[22:46] <_Whipper__> sizzle: why on Earth u have dsl on DVD? ...
[22:46] <stealth-> does kopete work with msn video?
[22:46] <bruce89> u?
[22:46] <sizzlefire> i dont have any CD's
[22:47] <keystr0k> anyone else have trouble using screencast software (xvidcap, recordmydesktop, etc.) with FGLRX?  I want to use the fglrx driver so that Compiz will work... but then my computer locks up if I try to record a screencast. :(
[22:47] <thatVMguy> here's my setup ->> 2*500GB in raid-0 running XP and 250gb drive with ubuntu on a 25 partition
[22:47] <_Whipper__> o?
[22:47] <thatVMguy> i can see everything on the 250
[22:47] <sizzlefire> Whipper: should still work, correct?
[22:47] <thatVMguy> but the raid setup does not appear at all
[22:47] <|kush|> sup, when I sign on to ubuntu, I cannot login with any username / password, but I can restart go in recovery and go into root
[22:48] <_Whipper__> sizzle: yep,  but it seems u fucked up the burn..
[22:48] <|kush|> I changed the password for root, but it still wouldnt let me login
[22:48] <|kush|> =/
[22:48] <kavurt> stealth- video works but no sound
[22:48] <failers> can i somehow re calibrate the volume controlle because at 67% its dead silent and at 80% its to loud and at 90% its maxed
[22:48] <sizzlefire> i can check md5, but im not sure how
[22:48] <stealth-> kavurt: k, thanks
[22:48] <sylonely> how can I connect my web cam to ubuntu? it says there is cam device
[22:48] <deany> keystr0k, i can record but its painfully slow that its not worth it
[22:48] <Bruce> how do i make totem player launch with keyboard shortcuts? instead of using mouse?
[22:48] <_Whipper__> sizzle: dont, just reload, its only what, 50megs
[22:49] <keystr0k> deany, arg. without fglrx it records as expected...
[22:49] <BrandonB> :s
[22:49] <deany> I dont know how people on youtube have such smooth recordings.. its not like my pc is crap
[22:49] <keystr0k> is there a way to use compiz without installing fglrx ?
[22:49] <BrandonB> I have graphis card laying around
[22:49] <sizzlefire> ok i will have it done in a minute, Whipper will you still be around?
[22:49] <keystr0k> deany, Yeah... I get great recordings using xvidcap without fglrx
[22:50] <sylonely> How can I connect my web cam to ubuntu
[22:50] <keystr0k> sylonely, try Cheese.
[22:50] <_Whipper__> sizzle: in a while yes, for now ill go for a fag and grab some more beer  >
[22:50] <deany> if i set --width and --height its fine.. full screen (1680x1050) its crap
[22:50] <sylonely> ok wait
[22:50] <deany> 640x640 for eg:  but thats useless
[22:50] <sprinkmeier_> sizzlefire, to check the MD5 of a CD just run "md5sum /dev/sr0", (or whatever the device is). it should match the MD5 of the .ISO file you used to burn the CD/DVD.
[22:50] <Bruce> how do i make totem plaer to be the default player?
[22:51] <Bruce> player*
[22:51] <_Whipper__> sprink: if dude has 50megs in a dvd, i'd rather not md5sum that..
[22:51] <_Whipper__>  >
[22:52] <sexcopter> i know i can do this in synaptic, but out of interest, can i list installed files of a package using command line? I'm thinking something with apt-cache...
[22:52] <sprinkmeier_> _Whipper__, it'll only MD5sum the 50m
[22:52] <tsrk> I have a phone and when I plug it in to usb it won't get a /dev/ttyACM# path.  How do I give it one?
[22:52] <unperson> Ah ha, it was 'mdadm --assemble --scan' that I wanted.
[22:52] <LargeHardonColli>  lol
[22:52] <LargeHardonColli> dfh
[22:52] <LargeHardonColli> fglol
[22:52] <LargeHardonColli> dfh
[22:52] <LargeHardonColli> fglol
[22:52] <FloodBot2> LargeHardonColli: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:52] <LargeHardonColli> dfh
[22:52] <keystr0k> sylonely, or you could use Streamer
[22:52] <sprinkmeier_> tsrk, what does "lsusb" say? google for the product/vendor ID to see if it's supported.
[22:53] <keystr0k> sylonely, and, naturally, there are other programs to connect to your webcam
[22:53] <|kush|> can anyone help me out or not?
[22:53] <tsrk> sprinkmeier_, it says Bus 001 Device 034: ID 22b8:2a63 Motorola PCS MSM6500 chipset flash
[22:53] <|kush|> i'm sure its really simple
[22:53] <|kush|> i'm just new to linux
[22:53] <tsrk> what's the product and vendor id?
[22:53] <Hayloe> where can i find sysctl.conf?
[22:54] <lstarnes> Hayloe: /etc
[22:54] <risingfish> Quick question, how do I drag an existing folder into usr/local/bin? is there a control button i can use when dragging to give it root permissions?
[22:54] <sprinkmeier_> tsrk, OK... first task is to see if that's supported 'out fo the box' or if you have to udev-magic it or something. GIFY, or use the HCL (hardware compatibility list)
[22:54] <Free0ne> |kush|: How are you trying to login as root? su or sudo?
[22:54] <Hayloe> i did a sudo gedit /ect/sysctl.conf but only a blank page came up
[22:54] <Hayloe> is that normal?
[22:54] <sexcopter> |kush|: i just read your quesiton. you know that root account is diabled by default with ubuntu, have you tampered with anything root like since installing?
[22:54] <|kush|> Free0ne I can login as root if I use the restore
[22:54] <TaG^> How come O can delete this file? /lib/modules/2.6.27-7-generic/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/rtl8187.ko?
[22:54] <TaG^> can't
[22:54] <lstarnes> Hayloe: /etc/sysctl.conf not /ect/sysctl.conf
[22:54] <|kush|> but other then that I cannot login as any user at the login screen
[22:54] <keystr0k> Hayloe, the 'locate' command works great for finding stuff like that.
[22:54] <sprinkmeier_> risingfish, best to do stuff like that on the commandline
[22:54] <tsrk> sprinkmeier_, it doesn't "automatically" get a /dev/ttyAMC so does that mean i have to use udev-magic?
[22:55] <|kush|> I tried to 'adduser' but I dont think I did it right
[22:55] <|kush|> :x
[22:55] <|kush|> idk
[22:55] <keystr0k> Hayloe, locate sysctl.conf
[22:55] <TaG^> How come I can't delete this file? /lib/modules/2.6.27-7-generic/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/rtl8187.ko?
[22:55] <sexcopter> |kush|: are you in ubuntu right now?
[22:55] <sprinkmeier_> tsrk, add a rule in /etc/udev.d/..... to say "when you see this device (by product/vendor ID) load this module and assign it this /dev/XXX name
[22:55] <|kush|> no i'm on windows
[22:55] <lstarnes> TaG^: why do you want to delete it?
[22:56] <|kush|> i am dual booting
[22:56] <pjsturgeon> I have 4 shares all using the same global settings. 1 share is just a folder, 3 of the shares are symlinks to files on a second harddrive. the normal folder allows read/write fine BUT the symlinks will not allow write
[22:56] <TaG^> lstarnes cause it's not wrking right...
[22:56] <armence> Hey all
[22:56] <lstarnes> TaG^: in what way is it not working?
[22:56] <sexcopter> |kush|: ok, so do you know what you might have done to get into this muddle? Or have you never been able ot log in?
[22:56] <sylonely> I tried cheese but it said that there was no media device
[22:56] <tsrk> sprinkmeier_, ok, thanks
[22:56] <keystr0k> sylonely, hmm.
[22:56] <sprinkmeier_> tsrk, see "http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~thomas-sprinkmeier/%2Bjunk/remote/annotate/head%3A/etc/udev/rules.d//09-local.rules"
[22:57] <|kush|> sexcopter I think I just need to login as root and add a user correctly
[22:57] <armence> Question: Sometimes the top bar of my windows in ubuntu become blank. How can I fix that?
[22:57] <risingfish> sprinkmeier: so there's isn't a way to do that? with all due respect to ubuntu, it seems like a fairly simple task that is best done using the gui. it seems like forcing that back into the command line is a step backwards.
[22:57] <sylonely> I think the ubuntu dont have its driver
[22:57] <risingfish> course I'm also sort of lazy, so that might be a big part of it too
[22:58] <risingfish> :)
[22:58] <sexcopter> |kush|: that wasn't what I asked, but yes, if you could add a user, make that user a sudoer and copy your stuff across, you should be ok... i think
[22:58] <TaG^> lstarnes it goes off and on ...
[22:58] <sexcopter> |kush|: ever used a command line?
[22:58] <keystr0k> sylonely, mine is integrated... works out of the box.
[22:58] <|kush|> sexcopter yeah I have used shell before
[22:58] <tsrk> sprinkmeier_, ok, thanks
[22:58] <|kush|> but just run bnc and eggdrop
[22:58] <Hayloe> wow thanks guys im dislexic apparently -.-
[22:58] <sprinkmeier_> risingfish, the command-line is _NOT_ a step backwards. Yes, you can start nautilus as root or various other things, but sometimes going to the bare metal and doing exactly what you want, not what some GUI thinks you want, is the best idea. just my $0.02, full refund if not completely satisfied!
[22:58] <keystr0k> sylonely, mine is at /dev/video0
[22:58] <unstable> What happened with firefox, after I did the ibex update, it screwed up my windowing. firefox overrides gnome panel/metacity, how do I fix this?
[22:59] <lstarnes> TaG^: instead of deleting the module, it may be safer to just blacklist it
[22:59] <unstable> I can't do anything with firefox, I can't resize it.
[22:59] <unstable> I can only minimize it.
[22:59] <sexcopter> |kush|: ok, there's probably a "proper" way to do this, but simply doing "ls /home" should tell you what user accounts exist.
[22:59] <unstable> But all other windows work fine.
[22:59] <|kush|> sexcopter but then if there is an account, how can I get that password?
[22:59] <kc8pxy> i need help getting my ubuntu hardy installer past the squashfs stage of loading the livecd.  I'm loading the cd via my pxe server, because the machine in question has no CD drive, and is a lappy
[22:59] <keystr0k> removed junky fglrx... b r b
[22:59] <sylonely> my camera name is rexpo
[23:00] <TaG^> lstarnes how u do that?
[23:00] <tim__b> I'm having problems with ssh tunnel/proxy: i'm connecting via "ssh -D port remotehost" to my server and like to transfer files via ftp using the tunnel, but the tranfered files are mostly corrupted. is there a way to fix this issue? (Ubuntu 8.10, all updates installed)
[23:01] <sexcopter> |kush|: i don't know of a way to recover a password (but it may be possible), but you could add a new user, copy stuff over and delete the previous user.
[23:01] <thatVMguy> anyoen got any ideas on the partitions?
[23:01] <ubersoldat> tim__b, try changing ftp mode to binary
[23:01] <lstarnes> TaG^: first of all, do you have another driver in use for connecting to the internet?  if not, then you should probably keep this module
[23:01] <TaG^> lstarnes yes I do..
[23:02] <sprinkmeier_> tim__b, ssh should be end-to-end encrypted, authenticated and verified. If you're getting corrupted files then something is badly wrong with ssh
[23:02] <tim__b> ubersoldat i'm already transfering using BINARY
[23:02] <knoppix> hä
[23:02] <ubersoldat> tim_b then try with ASCII :)
[23:02] <lstarnes> TaG^: try temporarily disabling it with sudo modprobe -r rtl8187
[23:02] <sylonely> in my /dev directory there isnt video
[23:02] <risingfish> sprinkmeier: No need for a refund, I'm open to all ideas. I'm just more partial to my own. :)
[23:02] <sprinkmeier_> tim__b, try scp instead of ftp?
[23:02] <lstarnes> TaG^: if that works, you can use the instructions in http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=166624 to blacklist it
[23:03] <ubersoldat> tim_b that's an option too
[23:03] <|kush|> so what is the correct way to 'adduser'
[23:03] <wonderwal> why use ubuntu for server, and not debian straight?
[23:03] <sprinkmeier_> risingfish, fair enough. I just figure that putting things in /bin is the package managers job, and if you're trying that hard to break things then you'd better know what you're doing and using the CLI shouldn't be a problem :-)
[23:03] <|kush|> any flags I should use?
[23:03] <brandon_> why not ubuntu supports sever
[23:03] <brandon_> be different
[23:04] <sexcopter> |kush|: flags? perhaps read this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddUsersHowto
[23:04] <ubersoldat> wonderwal, you can always get support from canonical if you need to
[23:04] <sprinkmeier_> |kush|, if you're running ubuntu then I'd recommend using the GUI tool (system->Administration->Users and GRoups). It sets up all the secondary groups for you etc.
[23:04] <ubuntiana> #ubuntu.it
[23:04] <tim__b> sprinkmeier_ the server is ftp (which i connect to through the proxy/ssh tunnel), can't change the system behind it, as i have no shell account.
[23:04] <wonderwal> ubersoldat: even when apt-get is broken?
[23:05] <sprinkmeier_> tim__b, I was afraid of that.... does FTP work without the ssh tunnel magic?
[23:05] <OzFalcon> whats the name of that usb boot key creator. ie it's on synaptic...... It can make USB boot from ISO files. BUT I CANT FIND IT!
[23:05] <ubersoldat> wonderwal, hmmm... so apt is broken... that's a big affirmation
[23:05] <rraj_be> If i am havng many packages as .deb iin a folder and then is there any way to install all of them as a whokle in a single command along with dependancies?
[23:05] <tim__b> sprinkmeier_ yes, it does. no damaged files, etc.
[23:06] <wonderwal> ubersoldat: not really.. just asking
[23:06] <bruce89> statement
[23:06] <sprinkmeier_> tim__b, given that corruption == potential security breach I find it strange that ssh tunnel should corrupt things. Can you FTP from the machine you're ssh-ing to, then scp?
[23:07] <OzFalcon> Anyone know name of USB boot creator?
[23:08] <tim__b> sprinkmeier_ are you meaning to copy the file in a first step to the ssh tunnel machine and then ftp it to the ftp server?
[23:08] <ubersoldat> wonderwal, it all depends on what you want. That's all. Debian is usually more stable since Ubuntu is based on Debian's unstable versions
[23:08] <sprinkmeier_> tim__b, yes.
[23:09] <silentContender> Can someone help me with a corrupt login (user/pass are correct)?
[23:09] <risingfish> sprinkmeier: I total agree that it should be a package managers job, but as it with so much OS software, it won't come in. I down loaded the 64b version of blender to play with it and it doesn't come with a package installer. In cases like this the lazy part of me just wants to be able to drag it into /usr/local/bin and throw a shortcut int he applications menu. I know I could sudo mv it, but I don;t want to have to open up a terminal w
[23:09] <sprinkmeier_> tim__b, (OK, I though you were downloading form the FTP server, not uploading, so I got the order wrong)
[23:09] <tim__b> sprinkmeier_, i'll give it a try and check if the file is fine that way
[23:09] <sprinkmeier_> risingfish, does blender come with "make install"?
[23:09] <tim__b> btw, sprinkmeier_, haven't had problems with downloaded files.
[23:10] <sprinkmeier_> risingfish, (ignore that... I was assuming source build :-)
[23:10] <sprinkmeier_> tim__b, So the same tunnels work for download but not upload? (if this wasn't a family friendly channel I'd be swearing now)
[23:10] <slide> What kinda specs in a system would I need to display 1080p graphics. I want to build a basic "media computer" so I need HDMI but is the video output mostly dependent on the video card or the CPU?
[23:11] <kolby> I can't use the internet for web browsing.
[23:11] <kolby> I can ping google.com
[23:11] <ubersoldat> slide, Video card
[23:11] <kolby> But I cannot view webpages.
[23:11] <tim__b> seems so, sprinkmeier_ . i tested some files and there were fine. as some of my uploaded files were fine to. but some need like 10 uploads to get it on the server without corruption
[23:12] <ubersoldat> kolby, can you ping any other web site?
[23:12] <kolby> yes.
[23:12] <metho> anyone here know how to get rid of gdesklets entries from bottom taskbar.
[23:13] <ubersoldat> kolby, try this: $telnet www.somewebsite.com 80
[23:13] <kolby> okay
[23:13] <sprinkmeier_> tim__b, I've _NEVER_ seen ssh tunnels behave like that. They either work _perfectly_ or they die, it's the only way to ensure security. I'd be looking at the FTP transfer, disks, RAM...
[23:14] <tim__b> maybe i also should try a diffrent ftp client, sprinkmeier_. maybe there's the problem
[23:14] <sprinkmeier_> kolby, if/when you get to a prompt/blank line type "GET" and hit enter a few times
[23:15] <kolby> sprinkmeier_: I have no telnet program
[23:15] <phuzion> Hi, I have an existing private/public SSH key pair from when I was on Windows, generated with PuTTYgen, and i want to import this into my system, how do I go about doing so?
[23:15] <ubersoldat> kolby, it's default with Ubuntu
[23:15] <sizzlefire> Whipper: I just downloaded puppylinux, made a DVD and used MD5 to make sure it was correct, should I stick it in the computer, or do something to the computer first
[23:15] <sprinkmeier_> kolby, nc?
[23:16] <kolby> what's nc?
[23:16] <kolby> net cat?
[23:16] <_Whipper__> sizzle: just put it in
[23:16] <andre1> Anyone know the precise NVIDIA driver I need? I installed NVIDIA-GLX but was the wrong driver.
[23:16] <sprinkmeier_> phuzion, just copy the files to ~/.ssh make sure permissions are correct!
[23:17] <sizzlefire> Ok, I put it in, and the harddrive took over
[23:17] <kolby> I think I have a firewall issue
[23:17] <sizzlefire> no, wait it looks to be working
[23:17] <ubersoldat> kolby, with telnet or nc you would know for sure
[23:17] <metho> anyone here know how to get rid of gdesklets entries from bottom taskbar.
[23:18] <josher4> I have firefox 3.0.7, and every time I open it, it seems to fill the entire screen. It says it is not in fullscreen mode but covers the entire screen. The only way out of it is to put it in fullscreen mode then take it out of it. This alas is very annoying to do. Any ideas on how to fix or reinstall?
[23:18] <_Whipper__> sizzle:just wait and let it run
[23:18] <andre1> can someone assist me with nvidia drivers?
[23:18] <phuzion> josher4, try starting firefox in safe mode, or deleting your profile before reinstalling firefox
[23:18] <phuzion> that clears up most firefox issues
[23:18] <kolby> ubersoldat: ...I'm helping a friend with windows.
[23:19] <josher4> phuzion: Well, I dont want to loose all my files so how do I boot into safe mode?
[23:19] <sizzlefire> ok it worked, how do i get to gparted?
[23:19] <phuzion> /path/to/firefox/firefox -safe-mode
[23:20] <TaG^> lstarnes i tried sudo modprobe -r rtl8187 the files it still there how come i can't delete it?
[23:20] <metho> apt-get install gparted
[23:20] <crx686> does anyone know what this means in the system log viewer? laptop netwrok manager : (info) trying to start the supplicant... it does that every 3 mins and it freezes everything until its done. can anyone help?
[23:20] <ubersoldat> kolby, windows also has telnet by default... at least XP does
[23:20] <kolby> ubersoldat: he's using vista
[23:20] <s3a> how do i find the skype .debs (not just latest one?)
[23:20] <kolby> ubersoldat: I tried telnet...
[23:20] <s3a> latest one is buggy
[23:20] <_Whipper__> sizzle:wait.. ill boot it too.. cant remember
[23:20] <kolby> I'm about to lose my patience with this.
[23:21] <kolby> thanks for helping me.
[23:21] <ubersoldat> kolby, good luck then
[23:21] <sizzlefire> i think i found it, i will be back later, it should be deleting now, thank you
[23:21] <ubersoldat> kolby, I lost my patience with Windows long ago
[23:21] <_Whipper__> no prblm
[23:21] <josher4> phuzion: It cant find it
[23:21] <phuzion> josher4, it should work with just typing firefox -safe-mode
[23:21] <phuzion> make sure that you have no other firefox sessions open though
[23:21] <TaG^> How do u delete a file
[23:22] <zash> !rm | TaG^
[23:22] <metho> how to find out all the installed programs on ubuntu with their size
[23:23] <josher4> phuzion: Am I stupid or something? Because my computer can't seem to find it. :P
[23:23] <TaG^> zash I tried to do a rm and sudo modprobe -r rtl8188 and still have no permission to delete it..
[23:23] <phuzion> josher4, in a terminal, type firefox
[23:23] <phuzion> Does that open a firefox window?
[23:23] <zash> TaG^: delete what
[23:24] <josher4> phuzion: yes
[23:24] <TaG^> zash a driver ..
[23:24] <andre1> can someone tell me what the proper nvidia driver is for the: NVIDIA® GeForce®4™ MX graphics
[23:24] <phuzion> josher4, now close all firefox windows
[23:24] <phuzion> and type in firefox --safe-mode
[23:25] <josher4> ok, one sec
[23:25] <EchohcE> how do I enable SHMConfig?
[23:25] <TaG^> zash /lib/modules/2.6.27-7-generic/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/rtl8188.ko
[23:25] <metho> time command does not work in terminal, anyone knows the problem with it?
[23:25] <zash> TaG^: but why
[23:26] <zash> TaG^: sudo rm should let you delete stuff you don't own, but why would you want to
[23:26] <EchohcE> I followed the docs on the site, but when I tried to use the touchpad pref icon, it said SHMConfig had to be set to True in xorg.config.  How do I do that?
[23:26] <sprinkmeier_> metho, bring up synaptic, properties, set "show installed size". what does time do/not do that's unexpected?
[23:27] <TaG^> zash ok thanks..
[23:28] <DakarRally> Can anyone help me with my headphones?
[23:29] <sprinkmeier_> DakarRally, yes: the pluggy bit goes in the PC and the bendy bit goes on your head
[23:29] <metho> sprinkmeier_ thanks for the reply.. i changed my time (through desktop) hundereds of time and it just goes back to default time which is set to america.. i checked to settings. everything is configured right! time command shows user real sys all set 00:00 etc
[23:29] <DakarRally> Hardy har har
[23:29] <sprinkmeier_> DakarRally, sorry, couldn't resist. What the problem?
[23:29] <DakarRally> My problem is that the sound is playing out of the speakers, even when the headphones are plugged in.
[23:29] <pedroj> hola
[23:30] <spionlala> with kdm there is such a nice transition from logging in to the actual desktop, can i have an animation like that with gdm to?
[23:30] <baz> whats the best way to run a script at startup but only when a I login to my account rather than at machine boot? Oh, and the script requires root...
[23:30] <p1m3nt3l> hi
[23:30] <sprinkmeier_> metho, "time" is a problem to tell you how log it takes to run other programs, i.e. "time sleep 5". You want to chakte the system clock/timezone?
[23:30] <pedroj> alguien de españa?
[23:30] <pedroj> pofavorrrr
[23:30] <pedroj> tedacuennnn
[23:30] <sprinkmeier_> !sound | DakarRally
[23:30] <pedroj> arrea lahostia
[23:30] <p1m3nt3l> que paso pedro
[23:30] <p1m3nt3l> no soy de espana, pero hablo espanol
[23:31] <regeya> !es | pedroj
[23:31] <pedroj> valgame la birgen
[23:31] <pedroj> hola
[23:31] <pedroj> de ande eres?
[23:31] <metho> sprinkmeier_ thanks for the reply.. i changed my time (through desktop) hundereds of time and it just goes back to default time which is set to america.. i checked to settings. everything is configured right! time command shows user real sys all set 00:00 etc
[23:31] <DIFH-iceroot> !eeepc
[23:31] <metho> sry
[23:31] <metho>  lol
[23:31] <silentContender> Can someone explain what is getty?
[23:32] <josher4> phuzion: I just cant seem to get into safe mode. I even did what their Knowledge base told me to do
[23:32] <DIFH-iceroot> is there a eeepc-ubuntu channel?
[23:32] <metho> sprinkmeier_ i checked the settings etc.. there is some other issue with the time. it wont let me change it based on my redion
[23:32] <genii> silentContender: "GET (T)TY" eg: get teletype or get info from serial port
[23:32] <p1m3nt3l> getty???
[23:32] <blindy> are there any media players that support letter boxing?
[23:32] <andre1> can someone tell me what the proper nvidia driver is for the: NVIDIA® GeForce®4™ MX graphics
[23:32] <sprinkmeier_> metho, does you account have permissions? are you trying to do it the GUI way or off the CLI?
[23:32] <crdlb> andre1: nvidia-glx-96
[23:33] <pedroj> dssds
[23:33] <silentContender> genii, is it possible that it is broken (I can't log in).  I had a SEGV signal from getty or login (I'm 90% sure it's getty though)
[23:33] <metho> sprinkmeier_ GUI way and i do have permissions!
[23:33] <metho> sprinkmeier_ permissions i.e. i type in root password to make any changes!
[23:34] <andre1> crdlb, so use sudo apt-get install ﻿nvidia-glx-96?
[23:34] <crdlb> blindy: what do you mean? if you were to play a 16:9 video on a 4:3 screen in fullscreen, any video player will put black bars around it by default
[23:34] <crdlb> andre1: or just use the hardware drivers manager
[23:34] <TaG^> is to move a file is mv ?
[23:34] <andre1> I did...
[23:34] <pedroj> dddd
[23:34] <genii> silentContender: It's conceivable but unlikely that it's broken. Is this suddenly on an otherwise working box? Or after an install, etc
[23:34] <josher4> !firefox
[23:34] <silentContender> genii, Yes it is suddenly
[23:35] <blindy> crdlb, lets say the original picture is 100x100 and my screen is 300x300, it will box the whole picture with black
[23:35] <sprinkmeier_> metho, root password? I though all these things worked off "sudo" so you have to enter your account password. Just possible that you're entering the wrong password and it's failing silently.
[23:35] <silentContender> genii, it took me awhile but I wrote script to log processes and it crashes on getty it seems
[23:35] <crdlb> blindy: that's what you want?
[23:35] <DIFH-iceroot> i am using ubuntu 8.04 on eeepc with an extern sd-card (/home) and ext2. every restart/start i get an error, that my system was not clealy shutdown. i only get this error with ext2. is there a known bug?
[23:36] <blindy> crdlb yes, i want to keep low res videos small so they dont pixelate. All media players keep it at that res but show the desktop etc
[23:36] <genii> silentContender: Does it work when you disable/remove the script?
[23:36] <silentContender> genii, at least the process ID's of getty match those that are sending SEGV signals in the daemon.log
[23:36] <smoytra> nvidia geforce 8400gs 512mb ddr2 cannot get drivers to work properly in ubuntu generic
[23:36] <smoytra> any ideas?
[23:36] <crdlb> blindy: assuming you're using a good XVideo output, the hardware scaling should look pretty good
[23:36] <silentContender> genii, what do I remove? (the script I wrote?, I wrote that after the login crash to do diag)
[23:36] <metho> sprinkmeier_ alright i'll give it a go
[23:37] <genii> silentContender: Ah, OK. I was under the impression after the script was put in place this began.
[23:37] <silentContender> genii, also someone else in ubuntu forums has posted the same problem after an install
[23:37] <genii> silentContender: Does it come up to single-user (recovery) ok, or same issue?
[23:38] <silentContender> genii, I can only use the recovery console.
[23:38] <sprinkmeier_> metho, check that "/etc/timezone" changes
[23:38] <crdlb> blindy: I know that 'mplayer -vo x11' will not zoom the video as long as you don't use -zoom, but that's software playback
[23:39] <metho> sprinkmeier_ its set to "America/New_York" how do i change it in terminal cos in GUI its shows me my country's!!!
[23:40] <silentContender> genii, ideas on how I should proceed?
[23:40] <genii> silentContender: getty is part of package util-linux    ... perhaps try apt-get install --reinstall util-linux (if internet working)
[23:40] <DakarRally> sprinkmeier_: I think my problem is that they don't support my video card...too new :(
[23:40] <EliotToller> hi
[23:40] <silentContender> genii, I'll try.  Give me a sec.  (It only has wireless, so...)
[23:41] <sprinkmeier_> metho, there are a couple of orher files that change too, best to do it the GUI way if possible. You shoul dbe able to do that from a login that's in the "admin" group.
[23:41] <pedroj> nene
[23:41] <phuzion> Ok, I converted my private key to something a little more valid for openssh, now what is the method to import an openssh private key?>
[23:41] <sprinkmeier_> DakarRally, darn. whinge at supplier to release a driver?
[23:42] <DakarRally> at supplier? ALSA?
[23:42] <sprinkmeier_> DakarRally, video card supplier
[23:42] <DakarRally> I meant ousnd card
[23:42] <DakarRally> *sound
[23:42] <sprinkmeier_> DakarRally, I thouogh that was strange...
[23:43] <silentContender> genii, it doesn't help
[23:43] <DakarRally> yeah...so whinge to ALSA?
[23:43] <genii> silentContender: I'm out of immediate ideas on it then
[23:44] <silentContender> genii, could you nudge me in the right direction?  Thanks for you confirmation and help.
[23:44] <sprinkmeier_> DakarRally, I doubt that will work. unsupported hardware tends to be due to HW vendors not releasing drivers/specs, i.e. not playing nice with developers who ask for info. Vote with your wallet (too late I guess, you've already bought it) or let the vendor know you'll be buying something different in future unless they get drivers out (i.e. tilt at windmills :-)
[23:44] <Royall> Simple ComizConfig is just amazing
[23:44] <EchohcE> Guys, I followed the instructions on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro5-1/Intrepid for enabling my trackpad to the letter, but when I rebooted and tried to check it, it couldn't find it.
[23:44] <EchohcE> What did I do wrong?
[23:44] <andre1> crdlb, where can I nvidia-glx-96?
[23:44] <Royall> that's tip 1
[23:45] <andre1> find*
[23:45] <Royall> tip 2 is don't even think about even thinking about installing 9.04
[23:45] <metho> sprinkmeier_ You are the man. its all done and dusted thanks
[23:45] <crdlb> andre1: hardware drivers would be the usual way, otherwise just install that package
[23:45] <crdlb> it's in restricted
[23:45] <DakarRally> It's a new sound card though? Intel ICH8 and as far as I can tell they only support up to ICH7
[23:46] <DakarRally> Plus, it's in a laptop, so there isn't a lot I can do :(
[23:46] <andre1> crdlb, the hardware driver that this installs, is the incorrect one as it causes my resolution to only stay @ 800x600
[23:46] <crdlb> andre1: are you using it now?
[23:46] <andre1> nope
[23:47] <andre1> i disabled it
[23:47] <andre1> then restarted machine
[23:47] <sprinkmeier_> DakarRally,  ICH7?  ICH8? If you know what that means you;re ahead of me :-)
[23:47] <bruce89> Royall: that's a bit harsh
[23:47] <crdlb> andre1: please enable it, then we can figure out what's wrong with it
[23:47] <andre1> ok
[23:47] <DakarRally> I believe it is the chipset
[23:47] <Royall> bruce89: well I meant that to normal users
[23:47]  * bruce89 is pleased to be called abnormal
[23:47] <andre1> brb need to restart crdlb
[23:48] <genii> silentContender: Conceivably your perms are messed up for the regular user in their home dir, not allowing them login. Maybe do recursive chown back to their name:group including the hidden dot-files
[23:48] <metho> which is better "CrossOver Linux Pro" or "Wine" to run windows apps
[23:50] <crdlb> metho: crossover is basically the commerical version of wine
[23:50] <silentContender> genii, I'll try that
[23:50] <andre1> crdlb, ok it's installed.. but i cannot change the resolution
[23:50] <metho> ahh, didnt know that
[23:50] <metho> thx
[23:50] <Laurenceb> hi
[23:50] <Laurenceb> how can I find out why my soundcard is inacessable?
[23:51] <crdlb> andre1: open a terminal and run 'glxinfo | grep direct', pastebin the output if it's more than one line
[23:51] <Matt|lol> what is this place?
[23:51] <Laurenceb> I'm using a software modem and it cannot use the soundcard
[23:51] <Laurenceb> everything was working fine until I started firefox
[23:51] <Laurenceb> I think it use the card...?
[23:51] <genii> Matt|lol: This channel is for users of Ubuntu Linux, who require assistance
[23:52] <andre1> crdlb, direct rendering: Yes
[23:52] <TaG^> ok.. how can I edit a *.h file and able to save it...?
[23:52] <crdlb> andre1: ok, your driver is working, try installing nvidia-settings and running that
[23:52] <jrib> TaG^: any text editor you want
[23:52] <andre1> ok
[23:52] <jrib> TaG^: though if you are asking this question, you should probably tell us what you are really trying to do and why
[23:52] <silentContender> genii, chown doesn't help
[23:52] <TaG^> jrib .. ya it say i have no permission..
[23:53] <TaG^> the code in the file is wrong .. I need to replace the code..
[23:53] <jrib> TaG^: be more specific...
[23:53] <crdlb> andre1: actually, what does 'glxinfo | grep -i nvidia | wc -l' say?
[23:54] <genii> silentContender: No other immediate tactic to try comes to me.
[23:54] <Laurenceb> is there a way to restart the sound card?
[23:54] <silentContender> genii, Ok
[23:54] <DIFH-iceroot> Laurenceb: /etc/init.d/pulseaudio restart
[23:54] <DIFH-iceroot> Laurenceb: with sudo
[23:54] <TaG^> jrib i add this line to the *.h       #include <asm/io.h>
[23:54] <TaG^>       #include <asm/semaphore.h>
[23:55] <jrib> TaG^: why...?
[23:55] <TaG^> and i can't save it .. it say i have no permission..
[23:55] <cousteau> what was the tool to restore deleted files? I used it some months ago but I can't remember its name
[23:55] <TaG^> in redit
[23:55] <TaG^> gedit
[23:55] <Datz> Hi, I am having trouble with the network manager and WEP Keys.  Is there a forum thread about this.  It is probably common problem.  I am using 8.10. This issue was not present for me in 8.04
[23:55] <marize> Olá
[23:55] <jrib> !sudo > TaG^
[23:56] <sebsebseb> !wireless
[23:56] <marize> alguém ai fala português?
[23:56] <Datz> thanks
[23:56] <Laurenceb> hmm no luck
[23:56] <jrib> TaG^: feel free to read what ubottu  has sent you, but I'm not convinced you should be doing what you are trying to do.
[23:56] <sebsebseb> np
[23:56] <brunner> if I want to upgrade to intrepid, can I just do apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade?
[23:56] <cousteau> !pt
[23:56] <Laurenceb> any idea why my sound card died?
[23:56] <andre1> crdlb i can't move the window around to get to the other settings... the resolution is too large for me to see all the options in nvidia-settings
[23:56] <silentContender> genii, I just read that Hardy has similar problem (not sure if it's getty though).  The solution to that is reinstalling libc6.  Should I try?
[23:56] <Datz> sebsebseb:  I don't need help with wireless.  There is a bug. I need a fix for something.
[23:56] <neoTheCat> good evening EST.  i am running gnome+compiz on two boxes.  on one i can resize windows like normal, by putting the cursor on the window border, on the other, the cursor changes to the resize icon, but the window does not resize.
[23:57] <neoTheCat> has anyone seen this before?
[23:57] <Datz> sebsebseb:  Netowrk Manager keeps asking me for my key..
[23:57] <genii> silentContender: Can't hurt
[23:57]  * sdasdas hola amigos de lo ajeno y enemigos de lo propio
[23:57] <sebsebseb> Datz: ok I don't know
[23:57] <Datz> ok, thanks
[23:58] <Flare183> !es | sdasdas
[23:58] <crdlb> andre1: did you try that second terminal command?
[23:58] <andre1> no.. which command?
[23:58] <sizzlefire> Whipper: Are you still here?
[23:58] <sdasdas> Flare183, what?
[23:58] <andre1> crdld ^
[23:58] <andre1> crdlb ^
[23:58] <Flare183> sdasdas: Please speak english
[23:58] <crdlb> andre1: this is a better version: 'glxinfo | grep -i software'
[23:59] <redhawk> after install how do you launch Anim 2000
[23:59] <sdasdas> Flare183, i havent speak spanish in this channel, in fact i havent speak in several hours
[23:59] <Flare183> sdasdas: Sorry
[23:59] <Flare183> my bad
[23:59] <andre1> crdlb  no output