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| MarcWeber | Is there some logging support again or do I have to use script\n &> /var/log/foo \n end script ? | 11:35 |
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| keesj | in scripts? | 12:20 |
| keesj | in 0.5.x upstart self tries to use syslog, for scripts it should be possible to lot to syslog but I have not seen that work | 12:22 |
| keesj | the "easy" thing to do IMHO is to use the logger command | 12:23 |
| MarcWeber | keesj: It's about reading error messages from startup scripts etc. | 13:27 |
| MarcWeber | upstart-0.3 had its own (bitrotted) daemon to log stdout and stderr of the scripts into a file | 13:28 |
| keesj | MarcWeber: how is this daemon called it that hte logd? | 13:29 |
| MarcWeber | It was called logd | 13:30 |
| MarcWeber | However using script &> file works fine in practise.. | 13:30 |
| keesj | Yes, , what I sometime do is a ( echo bla ; do this; echo bla ) | while read line ;do echo "SCRIPT_NAME:" $line ; done | 13:33 |
| geiseri_ | hi, i have a even that needs to wait for hal to be loaded, is there a way with the current upstart in Ubuntu intrepid to do this? | 16:53 |
| pkt | perhaps you mean a service that needs to wait for hal ? | 17:18 |
| geiseri_ | well i want to start Xorg on boot for a live CD, but i guess the new Xorg wants to use hal to get input devices. | 17:19 |
| geiseri_ | i had an upstart event script in event.d in hardy, but when i upgraded to intrepid it stopped working | 17:19 |
| geiseri_ | diagnosis told me that it needed hal... so that is where i am stuck | 17:20 |
| MarcWeber | I'm trying to add upstart-0.5.1 support to nixos now. init ist started then nothing happens. Probably the job files aren't found? Is there a simpler way to debug this than patching upstart to support running as pid2 and running strace? | 19:07 |
| sadmac | MarcWeber: pass init=/sbin/init -v on the kernel command line | 19:13 |
| damjan | Anybody here? I'm installing Upstart in ArchLinux, and on startup I get a "unable to set oom adjustment" so the first job is not started | 19:14 |
| sadmac | damjan: your initrd needs to mount /proc | 19:15 |
| damjan | it seems to me that upstart tries to write to /proc/xxx/oom_adj .. but /proc is not mounted when upstart | 19:15 |
| MarcWeber | sadmac :-) After starting udev before upstart I get some output as well now :-) | 19:15 |
| damjan | sadmac: I'm not using a initrd | 19:15 |
| MarcWeber | damjan: Mount proc before running upstart. | 19:15 |
| sadmac | damjan: then it won't work right now (we don't like it either, it'll be fixed at some point. patches welcome) | 19:16 |
| MarcWeber | damjan: Also make sure that your kernel supports it.. | 19:16 |
| MarcWeber | if it doesn't you can still patch upstart. | 19:16 |
| damjan | MarcWeber: supports what? | 19:16 |
| MarcWeber | oom | 19:16 |
| damjan | it should, I see /proc/1/oom_adj | 19:17 |
| damjan | why is that needed at all? how about completelly disableing that part of the code? | 19:17 |
| sadmac | damjan: go for it | 19:17 |
| damjan | what's the "But.." ? :) | 19:18 |
| sadmac | you don't get OOM support, and there's no flag, so you're doing it on your own. In a text editor. | 19:19 |
| geiseri_ | what are the files called in the /etc/events.d directory? are those events themselves? | 19:19 |
| sadmac | geiseri_: those are jobs | 19:19 |
| sadmac | geiseri_: its a poorly named folder | 19:19 |
| geiseri_ | okay, no problem | 19:19 |
| geiseri_ | so is there a list of events that i can start on and stop on somewhere? | 19:19 |
| MarcWeber | geiseri_: initctl list will show them all | 19:20 |
| sadmac | MarcWeber: those are jobs | 19:20 |
| MarcWeber | oh. I've missed that. sry | 19:20 |
| sadmac | geiseri_: there's an events manpage in fedora. think its on die.net too | 19:20 |
| damjan | well ... ok, going to reboot to try this :) | 19:20 |
| damjan | brb | 19:20 |
| geiseri_ | okay, ill check there | 19:20 |
| geiseri_ | im trying to start a job when hal is finished starting | 19:20 |
| geiseri_ | if that is even possible right now | 19:21 |
| sadmac | start on started hal | 19:21 |
| * geiseri_ checks what he had | 19:21 | |
| geiseri_ | yeah i have that but it doesnt seem to be working | 19:22 |
| geiseri_ | im on ubuntu intrepid, is this not supported in that version? | 19:22 |
| sadmac | are you starting on something else? | 19:22 |
| MarcWeber | geiseri_: You can log events when jobs are started.. | 19:24 |
| geiseri_ | im sorry im not parsing your question... my line is "start of started hal" in my job in /etc/event.d/Xorg | 19:24 |
| sadmac | geiseri_: on, not of | 19:24 |
| geiseri_ | MarcWeber: that is the --debug flag you can pass to the boot args? | 19:25 |
| geiseri_ | sadmac: im trying to launch Xorg right after hal is started successfuly | 19:26 |
| sadmac | geiseri_: then start on started hal | 19:26 |
| MarcWeber | geiseri_: Try grep init /var/log/messages. Maybe it is all there.. | 19:26 |
| sadmac | geiseri_: not of started, on started | 19:26 |
| geiseri_ | sadmac: sorry i had a typo, that is what i have now... | 19:27 |
| sadmac | geiseri_: is the job that starts hal in fact named hal? | 19:27 |
| geiseri_ | that im not sure... how would i find that out for certain? | 19:27 |
| sadmac | ls /etc/events.d | 19:28 |
| geiseri_ | ah, i dont have one in there, it seems ubuntu still uses the sysv init compat stuff | 19:28 |
| geiseri_ | so im assuming ill never get an event from there | 19:28 |
| sadmac | probably not. Fedora has some kinda chintzy event emulation for that stuff, but I don't think ubuntu followed on | 19:29 |
| geiseri_ | ah okay | 19:29 |
| geiseri_ | so if i put an initctl event hal in the end of my rc.local, that might do it? | 19:29 |
| sadmac | initctl emint | 19:30 |
| sadmac | *emit | 19:30 |
| sadmac | yes, that'd do it | 19:30 |
| geiseri_ | ah, right | 19:30 |
| geiseri_ | okay, let me give that a whirl | 19:30 |
| geiseri_ | sadmac okay that seems to have worked, thanks | 20:41 |
| sadmac | cool | 20:41 |
| MarcWeber | Can I syntax check job files somehow? | 20:47 |
| geiseri_ | sadmac: hrm... only one problem when i do the emit the rc.local blocks... should i be doing "initctl emit xorg &" so it starts in the background? | 20:47 |
| sadmac | geiseri_: initctl emit --no-wait I think was the option | 20:48 |
| geiseri_ | ah | 20:48 |
| geiseri_ | okay | 20:48 |
| * geiseri_ checks the man page | 20:48 | |
| geiseri_ | that looks like it might do it | 20:50 |
| MarcWeber | Can the default PATH be set to a sensible default? | 21:01 |
| MarcWeber | Or do I have to use env PATH=... in all job files? | 21:02 |
| sadmac_ | define sensible? | 21:03 |
| MarcWeber | containing corutils such as touch and upstart itself.. | 21:03 |
| sadmac_ | don't think we have global environment. Might be a good RFE | 21:04 |
| MarcWeber | I don't mind adding env PATH=.. everywhere either | 21:04 |
| MarcWeber | It does'nt matter that much because nixos does already have some kind of abstraction. adding this myself is done very fast. | 21:04 |
| MarcWeber | I think this differs from upstart-0.3 somehow | 21:05 |
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