[00:05] do i have to enable..completely remove...when uninstalling anything? [00:05] using synaptic i mean [00:06] sudo apt-get purge [00:06] that removes all configuration files [00:06] ? [00:15] juanito_, yes [00:15] like aptitude purge [00:16] ok thank you [00:16] anyone use screen w/ xubuntu? [00:17] How do you re-bind backspace to work in screen under xubuntu? [00:19] screen? [00:19] yes [00:19] * pleia2 has never had a problem with the backspace in screen [00:19] pleia2: are you running xubuntu 8.10? [00:19] what does it do when you press it? [00:19] yes [00:20] see you charlie-tca & knome [00:20] Mood: and is this in a program? ssh session? just the bash prompt? [00:20] pleia2: bash prompt on my local xubuntu [00:21] Mood: what does it do when you press backspace? [00:21] pleia2: nothing [00:21] i think it has to do something with ^H binding [00:22] hm, not sure :\ [00:22] in screen, ctrl+h works as backspace... i think xubuntu's backspace is binded to ^? perhaps [00:25] anyone has added the medibuntu repository? [00:25] i need this package libdvdcss2 [00:27] Mood: this might be related? (some fixes are offered) https://bugs.launchpad.net/vte/+bug/29787 [00:28] pleia2: you've identified the bug i'm experiencing methinks :-) [00:29] i wonder why you don't have it though. are you not using xfce4-terminal? [00:29] Mood: nope, using rxvt-unicode [00:30] pleia2: yeah- i just tried screen using xterm, and backspace works -- the bug is with xfce4-terminal's keybinding of backspace [00:31] the bug is over a year old -- i wonder why it's not fixed for 8.10 [00:31] :-( [00:31] yeah :( [00:33] pleia2: do you use an .screenrc file? [00:33] Mood: nope, haven't needed one [00:33] ok [00:44] pleia2: i got around the bug based on suggestions of that page you forwarded. thanks! [00:44] :-) [00:44] Mood: welcome :) [03:11] in ubuntu if a file is higher then a certain size it gives the option to delete immediately but xubuntu doesn't seem to do that. How do you enable that? [03:19] merther, shift+del doesn't copy files to wastebasket. [03:19] i mean, move. [03:20] knome: Thanks, just as good. :) [03:31] * Mood gives quickz his 5th vouch :-P [03:39] weird... [03:40] * Mood was wondering where that /me went to... [03:55] Hey, Anyone Know A Good Site To Download Emerald Themes? [04:00] Zarek: http://www.compiz-themes.org/index.php?xcontentmode=103 [04:00] ? [04:00] Mood: I Shall SCheck It Out, THanks For Your Help [05:02] hi === Sinister` is now known as Sinister [09:41] hi guys [09:41] anyone know why when i try to install basket (kde app) it wants to install the whole kde suite...anyone know hoe to just install basket (and the direct dependenceis)? [09:45] kde suite is the dependency [09:46] zeltak: using apt-get install with the --no-install-recommends switch should install the package and just the dependencies [09:47] sweet ill try that thx durt [10:30] hi , can anyone help me to get back my panels on xubuntu 7.10 [10:33] Do i have to make a kernel module and install it to use guest hardware in VirtualBox? :) Or isit enough to run the script? [10:37] i am a beginner , please help to get my panels back on xubuntu 7.10 [10:43] donna10: press alt+f2 and type 'xfce4-panel' [10:47] thesheep , i do not get that small window [10:47] alt F2 doesn't answer [10:47] donna10: ok, what exactly happened? [10:49] my panels disappeared , and as i got that before already , i knew what to do : i pressed F2 and alt but i didnt get that small window to order xfce4=panel [10:49] not now [10:50] what happened just before they disapeared? [10:50] i just opened my laptop and when i watched it after a while : no panels anymore [10:51] but other icons were on [10:51] can right-click on the desktop for menu? [10:52] *you [10:52] now i have a black screen with in white xubuntu=laptop login CCBCCBCCB etc. [10:52] the sheep , i have nothing but a black screen [10:53] press alt+ctrl+backspace and log in again [10:53] no, wait, did the screen just lock? [10:53] thesheep it does not give anything [10:53] then you just have to enter your password [10:54] press alt+ctrl+f7 [10:55] does it bring the graphical environment back? [10:57] the sheep no , i introduced my password and oit goes on demanding it [10:57] only black screen [10:58] now i have : login timed out after 60 seconds [11:00] donna10: you should type your login at login: and then your password [11:00] it won't be displayed [11:01] that should log you in [11:01] in text mode [11:18] The sheep , thanks for your help , it works again [11:30] Hi, im trying to add the mactel ppa to my sources in xubuntu 8.10. My problem is I do not know what format the apt key needs to be in. The mactel support wiki has an apt-key command that does not work, but it uses the key, so I think I could just save it to a file in specific format that software sources authentication tab wants? I'm not sure what that format is or if I am on the right track. I'm using a MacBook pro and I'm fairly new to [11:30] Linux. [11:31] jed, I don't know what Mactel is but you can easily add a key in Synaptic [11:31] Hey charlie-tca [11:32] I think that is what I have been trying to do, but I dont know what format it wants the key in [11:32] jed, in Synaptic, Settings->Repositories, then the Authentication tab, Import Key File [11:32] jed, well where can you download the key? [11:33] the support wiki has a key but it is just a number in hexadecimal, could i just save that to a file? [11:34] jed, can you post a link? [11:34] here: https://launchpad.net/~mactel-support/+archive/ppa [11:34] er, wrong one [11:34] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/PPA#Installation [11:34] i just found that one, i think i got it [11:35] That should work, I suppose, otherwise you can always look here: https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA#Adding%20a%20PPA%20to%20your%20Ubuntu%20repositories [11:36] (That's what you get when you click the link "Follow these instructions" ;-) [11:37] hallo [11:37] !hi [11:37] Hi! Welcome to #xubuntu! [11:38] pls help me, I am novice to ubuntu... how I can mount my HDD NTFS? [11:38] Pipak, it should just appear on your desktop... Which version of Xubuntu are you using? (You are using Xubuntu, right, not Ubuntu?) [11:38] vinnl, thanks, (that link was hard to find logically from the wiki :p) [11:38] jed, hehe :P [11:39] thx, yeah Xubuntu ver.8.10 [11:40] Pipak, right... When you go into Applications->Settings->Settings Manager, can you see whether in "Removable Drivers and Media" everything under "Removable Storage" is checked? [11:41] Oh wait, not sure if that has to do with your issue... But checking shouldn't harm ;-) [11:41] thx I will w8 [11:42] hello, vinnl [11:42] Pipak, when you open the Places menu, is your drive listed there? [11:42] it is not [11:43] !ntfs [11:43] To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE [11:44] Ah, thanks TheSheep :) [11:44] I need to take more advantage of ubottu :) [11:45] thx a lot [11:46] bye [12:22] Where can I find a pastebin for images? [12:22] charlie-tca, imageshack.us? :) [12:27] how would i access an ipod like device (not an actual ipod though, knock off type) [12:27] Ishmael, probably just plug it in and browse it, but that depends on the device [12:27] How do you do it in other operating systems? [12:28] didn't work too well in other operating systems [12:28] How was it _supposed_ to work? ;-) [12:30] it has a usb cable [12:30] but...it's really shitty, a family member who i don't respect sent it to me [12:31] Well, USB-cables are easily replacable, but plugging it in and browsing it should work just as well (or bad) as in other operating systems [12:32] so you're saying that if everything were going smoothly it should probably pop up on desktop? [12:32] Yep [12:34] hi! I have a question regarding poweroff. When I am in the login screen and I press the external on/off switch, the machine just goes off without a proper shutdown. When pressing the same button AFTER login, the menu displays my options and I can do a clear shutdown. Is there a way to configure this behaviour? [12:36] thedave: when you are not logged in, the desktop environment is not there, so the logout plugin is not available. [12:37] is there a good command to see what's plugged into the usb ports? [12:37] I don't know that there is a way to add the plugin to the login screen, since the login window is GDM, not Xfce [12:37] hmm okay. that explains it. but since I use ext2 as a filesystem, this can damage some files if I use the button [12:37] Ishmael, "lsusb" [12:37] is there any way to tell my system to just invoke a shutdown -now when pressing the button? [12:38] thanks [12:38] Yes, but there is SHUTDOWN on the login window, click it for a safe shutdown [12:38] I know, but this machine is more like a router, so I don't always have access to the mouse [12:38] or, go to Ctrl+Alt+F2, login, type "sudo shutdown -P now" and it will do a safe shutdown [12:39] i figure the port is dead on it [12:39] DOA [12:40] hmm okay thanks. I think this is the way to go until I figure out to do this with some acpi magic or something ;) [13:06] ok, voided the warranty to find out, but it is faulty at the usb port [13:06] Haha [13:06] had to twist the chip to get it to recognize [13:07] i just need a plier system and i'll be good [13:08] what's the command for that in linux? [13:08] A plier system? [13:08] yeah, taht will hold the usb plug, and turn it counter clockwise reletive to the chip? [13:09] Sorry, never heard of that [13:09] it's just gotta put a little bit of pressure [13:11] solved my problem: just editied the /etc/acpi/powerbtn.sh and invoked a shutdown [13:12] Great :) [13:12] I love it. Its so easy. [13:12] What is the name of Xubuntu's compressing utility? [13:13] jarnos, file-roller [13:18] vinnl: can you see it in a menu? [13:18] jarnos, nope [13:19] vinnl, what are you looking for? [13:19] vidd, nothing, jarnos asked for the name of file-roller :) [13:21] vinnl, no, he asked for the name of xubuntu's compressing utility ;) [13:21] ...which is file-roller :P [13:22] vinnl: I think it is bad, since how users find the program to create a new archive? [13:22] jarnos, right-click a folder or files and select "Create Archive" [13:22] (You can also find it using the Appfinder btw) [13:23] do ppl actually expect to open the archiver and then select the files to compress? [13:24] I can't imagine, that was the reason it was removed from the menu in the first place [13:25] vinnl: I can't find it by xfce4-appfinder [13:26] jarnos, search for "Archive" [13:26] gee...perhaps we should add a "ghost" app "archiver" that just depends on file-roller [13:27] vinnl: It finds only Xarchiver [13:27] jarnos, which version of Xubutnu are you using? [13:27] vinnl: Intrepid + Xfce 4.6 from jeromeg's ppa. [13:28] Hmm, odd... And when you execute file-roller from a terminal window, does it work? [13:29] vinnl: yes. [13:29] Very odd [13:29] vinnl: I removed panel directory from home btw. [13:30] Panel directory? [13:30] vinnl: $HOME/.config/xfce4/panel [13:31] Ah, that shouldn't matter for finding an application [13:31] Also, I don't think that should matter at all with Xfce 4.6, I suppose xfconf doesn't store its files in there [13:32] my desktop is vanilla and its not in my xfce appfinder either [13:33] the name is Archive Manager, exec is file-roller [13:33] vidd, that's a vanilla Intrepid? [13:33] and there it is [13:33] yes [13:34] Strange, I do have it in appfinder [13:34] It's not in Jaunty that I can find, either [13:34] ( in appfinder) [13:35] vinnl, is yours an upgrade-thru-the-years or a fresh i9nstall? [13:35] Ehm, I upgraded it from Hardy [13:35] thats why [13:35] So probably something changed for file-roller [13:36] Supposedly they removed the .desktop file [13:37] It is in /usr/share/applications/Archive Manager [13:38] :S [14:40] FREEDOM http://freeculturenews.com/2009/01/12/reverse-engineered-broadcom-firmware-available/ [15:09] seriously, what's with xubuntu changing the default applications to some silly applications for file types every now and then? [15:10] first it wanted to open png files with firefox, now evince... [15:10] ? [15:10] Without you doing anything? [15:10] while I told it several times to do it with comix [15:10] well, with me doing apt-get update I suppose [15:11] In Intrepid? [15:11] yeah [15:11] Very strange :S [15:11] yeah [15:12] and annoing [15:15] I can't reproduce it, but it happened several times already [15:35] what networkmanager does xubuntu use? [15:35] NetworkManager :) [15:38] vinnl: ty [15:38] hi [15:38] hello danopia [16:37] quick q xubuntu brothers' [16:37] just ask, JuanL [16:38] i'm trying to get xubuntu to recognize the mass storage mode of a phone. it normally comes up as a USB drive, anyone know if i have to enable something or anything to that matter? i'm on 8.10 and i'm trying to get the T-Mobile Wing Storage to pop up so i can drag and drop [16:39] mass storage == usb drive [16:40] the phone comes up as the same thing on a windows pc. i'm trying to make the storage card come up. [16:43] i enabled mass storage on the phone and when i connect to usb it should pop up but nothing is showing on desktop [16:43] where would i go to manually mount it? [17:07] hello, i'm using xub and windos, and i have a question. Can i install XFCE or XFWM to windows? [17:09] which packages do i need? [17:21] xiq: why not run the windos under a virtualbox machine or vice versa? [17:23] anyone test xubuntu 9.04? the xfmedia cannot start for me under 2 installations [17:28] pitwalker, is xfmedia installed by default? [17:29] pitwalker, when i try to launch it from terminal, i get The program 'xfmedia' is currently not installed. === pitwalker_ is now known as pitwalker [18:02] :-( xubuntu alternate iso 20090308 is failed during package selection [18:03] pitwalker, did you do a "check disk"? [18:04] the rescue mode is unusable in this situation, no dpkg installed only a kernel, the olly one user cannot log in!! [18:04] disk is OK :-) [18:04] did you try a cli-only install or full install? [18:04] apt-get is available but collide with disk is already mounted and not changed!! [18:06] apt-get says: "Media change: please insert disc labeled...." the disk is on /cdrom/ !!! [18:06] pitwalker, can you open /etc/apt/sources.lst? [18:08] yes but i only have less, no ANY EDITOR!!! [18:08] debian installer is better, that can install a BASIC SYSTEM [18:08] if you have the kernel, you have nano [18:09] pitwalker, the alt installer IS the debian installer =] [18:09] hooray I have a "vi" :-) [18:10] comment out the cd line [18:10] the package selector is broken for me from 6% to 85% is 6 seconds and says fail, but the CDROM is valid [18:11] I'm not familiar with vi :-) [18:11] can you load nano instaed of vi? [18:11] I like better joe or nano, I have'n wget to download it [18:12] give me a sec...ill get the vi commands for ya [18:13] pitwalker, he is a good "i can't vi to save my life!" guide [18:14] http://www.cs.wichita.edu/~matrow/textedit.html [18:14] vidd: thanks [18:15] but easier: rm /etc/apt/sources.list ; echo deb http://... > /etc/apt/sources.list [18:15] if you comment out the cd call, you should be able to get the rest of the packages via apt-get [18:15] just remember to update =] [18:15] the oly one line is the cdrom repository :-)) [18:16] do you know the other repo's? [18:16] and can yuou ping out on that machine? [18:17] ifconfig and route is good [18:17] good [18:17] i run this jaunty i know my repos [18:18] * vidd personally prefers to use the mini iso [18:19] what is the mini iso [18:19] its ubuntu's net installer.... [18:19] !mini [18:19] The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD [18:21] pitwalker, for JJ .... http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/jaunty/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/ [18:21] its 11mb [18:22] specifically designed to dl everything off the internet [18:23] best part of it is that you can install whatever flavor of *buntu you want...all from one disk [18:26] it works! i can apt-get nano with jaunty main restricted repo :-) [18:26] i should hope so [18:27] you should also be able to apt-get wget [18:27] done i edit all of the repos and apt-get install xubuntu-desktop [18:28] and then sudo wget [path to clean source on your network] [18:28] wget is good but now I don' need [18:28] * vidd is a slow typest [18:28] (his spelling socks too!) [18:30] pitwalker, you still should get up-close-and-personal with your good friend vi [18:30] =] [18:31] the etc/passwd file and the /etc/shadow is bad, because I have only one user the root but root can't have password [18:32] i try passwd [18:32] apt-get remove vi [18:32] your working in the recovery console right? [18:33] no package I rm it [18:33] yes but only the TTY1 is good [18:33] is /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow present? [18:35] pitwalker, is /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow present? [18:37] i set the root's password :-) hut how can i allow root to log in the graphical environment? [18:37] or i must add a new user now [18:38] you would need to either add a user, or configure the system to allow root login [18:38] there are a few things you should do first [18:39] step one....finish the apt-get update && apt-get install xubuntu-desktop [18:39] i install icewm [18:39] and synaptic [18:39] or whatever desktop you want [18:40] you need to install ubuntu-standard as well [18:41] this will give you "useradd" "sudo" and a bunch of other very useful items [18:42] personally....rather then hack-attack this issue, id get the mini iso and start over =] [18:42] nice package i install it (nano wget dosfstools...) [18:43] what? ubuntu-standard? [18:43] yes ubuntu-standard [18:43] that is the "this is the cli-only" package [18:44] from there you will want to install your DM and your WM [18:45] what DM can i use? what is the default for xfce? (gdm?) [18:45] to the best of my knowledge, synaptic doesnt require either [18:46] gdm is the default for xubuntu..... [18:46] but if your using ice, then you might want to consider slinm [18:46] *slim [18:46] the PC have 160MB of SDRAM and a MMX250MHz CPU [18:46] * vidd uses slim/openbox for his uber-lite systems [18:47] pitwalker, your system does not meet the min requirements for xubuntu [18:47] i install icewm :-; [18:47] your short 32MB of ram =] [18:47] ;-) [18:48] so anyway [18:48] the min system requirements is on xubuntu.org? i cannot find [18:49] pitwalker, they are on the same page as the links to download [18:50] http://xubuntu.org/get [18:50] you may need to scroll down to see the requirements [18:50] next time I read it, the swap file is too small, only 200MB [18:52] dependency tree building is very slow [18:52] you have a slow system =] [18:52] but works :-) [18:53] also, you have to take into consideration that apt-cache is being built for the first time [18:54] this is all "behind the curtain" stuff you dont notice during install [18:55] but a good rule of thumb is swap = ram x 2 [18:55] HDD is under 5400RPM :-( [18:56] my rule swap <=ram x 2 [18:56] thats crazy talk [18:57] for low end machines, you should be thinking >= not <= [18:57] now if you have 4 GB of ram, then a smaller swap would be understandable [18:58] I plan to add another HDD for only the wpas later [18:59] a unused 1GB = 0$ [18:59] the whole system costs 0$ [19:01] the same with most of mine [19:01] i want to read a .chm file [19:01] which package should i install? [19:02] juanito_, what exactly is a chm file? [19:02] well it is like a book in pdf [19:02] but the extension is chm [19:02] apt-get install xchm [19:02] xchm ok [19:03] thanks a lot [19:03] chm is windows's packed html help format [19:03] ah [19:03] proprietary crap [19:04] 62% dependency tree for slim! [19:04] why? [19:05] huh? [19:07] libc6 lib...... I currently no have libs [19:09] sounds about right [19:14] juanito_: archmage (CHM(Compiled HTML) Decompressor) [19:23] pitwalker, how you making out? [19:30] slim is ready [19:31] but how can I add a sudoer user? [19:36] i don't know what gives, firefox wants to save every file instead of opening with application upon download ... is this a firefox prob or could it have to do with os? [19:37] install ubufox [19:38] hmmm... nver heard of it, is it new? [19:38] no [19:38] it's basically a set of default settings for firefox [19:38] actively developed? [19:38] oh, add on? [19:38] yes, but it's in repos [19:39] !info ubufox [19:39] ubufox (source: ubufox): Ubuntu Firefox specific configuration defaults and apt support. In component main, is optional. Version 0.6-0ubuntu1.8.10.1 (intrepid), package size 52 kB, installed size 312 kB [19:39] pitwalker, sorry...i went to smoke [19:39] i set the preferences to what i wanted but ff not obeying [19:39] pitwalker, did you install sudo? (ubuntu-standard)? [19:40] thx, the sheep, i will check it out [19:42] someone can help me to reconfigure my onboard video card [19:42] which card? [19:42] i a new in the linux wolrd [19:42] vidd, i don´t know exactly [19:43] what does lspci tell you? [19:44] 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 630/730 PCI/AGP VGA Display Adapter (rev 21) [19:44] my system is out the box but is very slow [19:44] gusibad, it should be auto-configured for you already [19:44] how much ram? [19:44] 512 [19:45] mb [19:45] why do you think your video card needs to be reconfigured? [19:46] because i have installed other linux versions and isn´t very slow [19:47] Xubuntu is lite and goes very slow ... [19:47] slow does not equal wrong video [19:47] define "slow" [19:47] and xubuntu is not "lite" [19:48] when i tipping the letters showing slow [19:48] and the web pages scrolling is not good... [19:48] what version? [19:48] Intrepid [19:49] open up the task manager [19:49] system monitor under the system menu [19:49] ok [19:50] (im waiting for mine to load) [19:50] ok [19:50] ready [19:50] im not... [19:50] itś open [19:51] anybody knows a light window manager usable without mouse? [19:52] pitwalker, i think that defeats the entire purpose of a wm.... [19:52] when i start icevm without mouse freeze, and my keyboard is crazy on terminals [19:52] gusibad, go to the processes tab [19:52]