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khalidwhass  up ppl00:06
panos4ever:)00:06
khalidCom'on geeks, say somthing00:07
khalidIm out of here00:09
drostieAre there spacer widgets yet for the KDE 4.2 panels?00:19
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knelhello00:21
Guest73975so does anyone here know anything about voice recognition for linux?00:22
MakuseruDo i need a special package to edit m4a files?00:27
geniiGuest73  https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sphinx2/0.6-200:28
geniibah00:28
JuJuBeeis there a version of skype for 64bit kubuntu.?00:29
kuaeraI'd check the skype site for that, but I don't think so.00:30
JuJuBeeI didn't see one there.00:30
kuaeraThen there likely isn't.00:30
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drostieJuJu: skype is qt, though, so I'd be surprised if there weren't.00:32
choserporfavor el link para el canal en español.... gracias00:32
JuJuBeeI just plugged in an SD card into my built in reader, where will it show up in kubunt kde4.200:33
JuJuBeedrostie: with the 64 bit os being around for a while now, im surprised at so many apps still not ported.00:33
choserlink del canal en español gracias00:34
drostie!en | choser00:35
ubottuchoser: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat00:35
drostieer.00:35
drostie!es | choser00:35
ubottuchoser: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.00:35
chosergracias00:35
drostieJuJuBee: the SD card should appear in Dolphin (the file manager) as well as on the Device Notifier widget.00:36
JuJuBeeHmm, not00:36
drostieis there a /dev/mmc_____ device?00:37
X9nLinuxLhi.  How can the 'info' that shows up in the yellow box (when putting the cursor over a file) be changed? (KDE, HH, Mac)00:42
JuJuBeeno00:43
JuJuBeeI think my sd card may be bad...  That would explain it...00:43
ny152bonsoir je cherche la commande pour passer de kubuntu  8.10 à kubuntu 9.04 (comme sous  ubuntu avec update-manager -c -d) Merci00:54
genii!fr | ny15200:57
ubottuny152: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr00:57
ny152ok00:58
chosercomo hago para introducir el canal #kubuntu-es00:58
geniichoser: eg:   /join #kubuntu-es00:59
opopis there, like, a way to make plasma span one wallpaper across two monitors?  I'm not seeing anything intuitive.01:05
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silverainmorning01:11
Nick_Meisterguys hello01:18
Elonehi01:18
Nick_Meisteri had no luck with ubuntu channel so i came here for help01:18
Nick_Meisteri attempted to install LUK01:18
Nick_Meisterbut when it came time to reboot it broke my computer now the only thing i can log in to is live cd :(01:18
Elonethen you lesser chance ;p #ubuntu got more ppl ;p01:18
Nick_Meisteryah they pretty much ignored me01:19
Elonelol01:19
Elonecoz no one know may be~ what is LUK XD01:19
Nick_MeisterLinux Unified kernel01:20
Nick_Meisterlook on wikipedia01:20
Nick_Meisterbut the issue is with grub01:20
Nick_Meisterkeeps giving me error 1101:20
EloneLeucadia National Corp? XD01:20
Nick_Meisterwhat?01:22
Nick_MeisterLinux Unifiied kernel is the meaning01:22
Nick_Meisterprovides windows kernel api for linux01:22
Nick_Meisterso that kernel level drivers/calls  work with wine01:23
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Eloneno idea ~ i seem to me that piece of software is still underdevelopment01:23
Nick_Meisterwell either way i just need help with getting the grub to work again01:24
Nick_Meisterso i can boot into my old linux01:24
Elonewhat's wrong with ours?01:25
Elonewhat's wrong with yours*?01:25
Nick_Meistergives me error 11:01:25
Nick_Meisterlike i said01:25
Nick_Meisterevery time i try to boot01:25
Nick_Meisterit gives me that01:26
Elonejust error 11?01:26
Nick_Meister Unrecognized device string01:26
Eloneidk, pastebin your grubmenu.lst?01:27
Nick_Meisterhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/128544/01:29
Elonehmmm you sure about your UUID?01:35
Eloned2fc1bf6-7916-45cc-b0fe-7e81c06b1bc9 look strange01:35
Nick_Meisteryah its correct01:35
Elonehehe sooo long  ;p mine is short ;p01:38
Elone3AEC6899EC685165 -> ../../sda101:39
reesehi.. are there any GUI for xml validators?01:40
EloneNick_Meister,  did you test01:40
Eloneth memtest86?01:41
Nick_Meisteri cant01:41
Nick_Meisternone of the menus work01:41
Elonehmmm what about switching the UUID to LABEL or (hd0,0)?01:42
Nick_Meisterlike what?01:43
EloneLIKE root=LABEL=MyDiskLabel?01:44
Nick_Meisterwhat do i replace the mydisklabel with>?01:45
julian_hi01:45
julian_is there any way to send a message to another user in the same network, as "netsend" in windows?01:46
EloneNick_Meister, with your disk's label of coz or reinstall grub and see? http://www.astahost.com/info.php/restoring-grub-boot-loader_t14048.html01:46
WazmynMy battery level indicator has dissapeared from my sys tray - how do i get it back?01:48
EloneWazmyn,  System -> power guadiance?01:49
WazmynElone: can't find anything in there about the sys try icon01:49
choser#kubuntu-es01:49
reesehi.. are there any GUI for xml validators?01:50
EloneWazmyn, start it in shell or in the application menu01:51
WazmynElone: start what?01:52
EloneWazmyn, Alt-01:54
EloneWazmyn, Alt-f2 type power and see01:54
Wazmynnothing there usefull, Elone01:55
Nick_Meisterok i think i reinstalled it01:56
Nick_Meister>.>01:56
EloneWazmyn, what you use for the power thing coz i use kpowersave01:56
Nick_Meisteri just hope i did not screw it up01:56
Nick_Meisterok reinstalling it did not help01:57
EloneNick_Meister,  @@01:58
Nick_Meister?01:58
Nick_Meisteri followed the page you gave me to install it01:59
Nick_Meisterand it did not help01:59
Elone:<02:00
reesehi.. are there any GUI for xml validators?02:04
Nick_Meisterok aparantly grub for some reason does not like the command root=02:08
Nick_Meistereven in the command prompt it gives me that error when i try to invoke it02:08
Nick_Meisteri can attempt to boot from the command line but you know02:08
Nick_Meisterthe root thing02:08
Nick_Meisterwhy does it do it T.T02:08
Eloneidk ~ may be the LUK thing is loaded and mess the thing02:10
EloneNick_Meister, but reinstalling geub should wipe anythign from boot .... hmmm02:15
kaddievening :)02:15
kaddithe x-server just killed itself (restarted fine) and i have the following message in the messages-log:kernel: [86611.274887] nepomukservices[12515]: segfault at 2c ip b7e957e2 sp bf89e6a0 error 4 in libQtCore.so.4.4.3[b7e42000+225000] on an acer laptop. just thought i'd let you know02:17
Nick_Meisteri dunno02:17
Nick_Meisterright now im trying to figure out a combination of commands02:17
JontheEchidnakaddi: That's most likely unrelated nepomuk is a bit crashy anyways02:17
Nick_Meisterto boot into it from command line02:17
kaddiwhat does nepomuk do anyways?02:18
kaddi(and where should i look for the application that crashed the x-server? )02:18
JontheEchidnaIt's a file indexer for searching and tagging02:18
JontheEchidnaAnd XServer crashes are caused by bugs in either xserver or the graphics driver02:19
kaddiis it something i use regularly without knowing, or can i turn it off?02:19
JontheEchidnaI don't know if you can turn it off02:19
EloneNick_Meister, but you said your root command not working .....02:20
Nick_Meisterits working fine if i use (hd0,0)02:20
Nick_Meisterinstead of the long ass thingie02:21
Elonejust the UUID?02:21
Nick_Meisterno02:21
Nick_Meisteri still havent figured out where the file system is02:21
Nick_Meistertrying /dev/sda right now02:21
Elonetry LABEL?02:22
Nick_Meisteri dont know what that does02:22
Eloneoh wait you said hd(0,0) work02:22
Elonejust use that then02:23
Nick_Meisteryah i need to figure out the root= in the kernel part02:23
Eloneyou are in grub commandline right?02:23
Nick_Meisteryah02:25
Nick_Meisterit loads the kernel02:26
tarfarthi02:26
Nick_Meisterand stuff02:26
Nick_Meisteri get to the buil in shell02:26
Nick_Meisterbusybox02:26
Nick_Meisterbut i cant get past that02:26
kaddiJontheEchidna: the xorg log hasn't been altered since 2 minutes prior to the crash, the same is true for most of the other logs.. all i can see (with the little i know of it) is the nepomuk crash. Anyways, it's not that important, just thought it might be off some kind of interest for your. but if i can't find the problem it probably won't. :D02:26
tarfarti rebooted my router, my network on my Debian box was able to reconnect, but i cant on my intrepid box.  to do somanually do i --> /etc/init.d/networking restart ?02:26
Eloneyou past the grub then ~02:26
Nick_Meisteryup02:27
Nick_Meisternow i need to get past that02:27
EloneNick_Meister, reinstall grub there ?02:28
Nick_Meisterbetter not02:28
Nick_Meisteri think i screwed it up by installing grub in the first place02:28
Nick_Meisteri just need to figure out what i should set the root= to02:29
Eloneroot=LABEL=/  try that02:31
Nick_Meisterwhat does the LABEL thing do\02:31
Eloneit use LABEL to id the HD02:33
EloneI still don't know how should the reinstall grub fail  @.@;02:37
Nick_Meisterok back02:53
Nick_Meistertried sda102:53
Nick_Meisterseems to work02:53
Nick_Meisteri am back in linux :D02:54
jhonasE AIH GALERA!03:09
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nafcoreHi, anyone interested in helping out a noob?03:10
nafcorehaving grub/boot selection issues03:10
nafcoreas in "where is the boot selection menu when i start up", "i am trying to escape windows, not load it"03:11
coreymanwhat's happenin'03:24
josh-lyellow03:32
coreymanorange03:32
coreymanblue green03:32
josh-li preffer kde4 to gnome... but ubuntu is far more responsive and otherwise faster and less buggy on my system than kubuntu... is there anything I can do to make kubuntu faster? if not i hate to but will have toreturn to ubuntu :(03:34
josh-lyellow? blue?03:35
josh-lred?03:35
josh-lgreen?03:35
coreyman... i have not had any problems from kubuntu03:35
coreymani have only had problems with gnome03:35
coreymanprobably because of my display set up03:35
coreymanwhat problems do you get from kubuntu?03:36
josh-lcoreyman: i just said03:36
coreymanreally... the world wont end if you end up going to gnome.03:36
coreymani had to go to kubuntu for the same reason03:36
josh-li know dude, but i prefer kde much more...03:36
coreymanyou like the interface03:37
coreymanor just the aps?03:37
josh-li like the interface and the apps, but not the performance03:37
coreymancause you can use all the apps on gnome03:37
josh-li know03:37
coreymanoh ok03:37
josh-lim a purist, i dont like to mix03:37
coreymanyou must be running on an older machine?03:37
josh-lno, not at all03:37
josh-l4g ram, 1.6ghz03:38
josh-lshould be whizinng03:38
coreymanim running on a intel core 2 duo e6750 2.6ghz 2g ddr3 ram03:38
josh-lto be honest windows 7 has had the best preformance on this thing03:38
coreyman1066 fsb i think03:38
josh-lyeah coare 2 here too03:38
coreymanwell.. 1.6 ghz.. is rather ... slow what is the size of your cache on that thing03:39
josh-lno it really isnt especially on a core 2 running 64bit03:39
coreymanim running 64 bit also03:39
coreymani wouldn't go any lower than what i got03:39
coreymanat school we run those 1.6's on XP03:40
coreyman32bit though.03:40
josh-lin any case... my resources are plenty to have way better performance03:40
coreymanhow long does it take to load up?03:40
coreymankde.03:40
josh-lscrew it i'm going back to gnome03:40
coreymanand what is being sluggish.03:40
josh-lway too long03:40
josh-leverything is being sluggish03:40
josh-leverything03:40
coreymanhuumm.03:40
coreymani wish i knew more about linux and kde.03:41
coreymani've only been a user for a week.03:41
coreymanim sure there is some error log somewhere03:41
josh-lim very familiar with linux btw i've used it for at least 7 years03:41
coreymanoh, have you checked the log then.03:41
josh-llogs03:41
josh-lthere are no errors03:41
coreymanhmph.03:41
coreymanodd.03:41
coreymanhow does kde3 run?03:42
josh-li think its just one of those things where computer technology just isnt an exact science03:42
josh-lbetter than 403:42
coreymanhumm03:42
coreymanyou don't want to use kde3?03:42
coreymani know some people that refuse to move to four.03:42
josh-lnot a chance03:42
josh-lnot i03:43
coreymanahh :P03:43
josh-lyuo03:43
josh-li mean03:43
josh-lyup03:43
coreymangotcha03:43
josh-lso what did you move to linux from windows xp?03:44
coreymansorry if i come off a little rude, something just doesn't seem right, it really seems like a hardware conflict to me.03:44
coreymani moved from vista to linux03:44
coreymani was hardcore xp, went to vista for about 6 months03:44
coreymancame over to ubuntu03:44
josh-lnope if it were a hardware conflict i would have problems in other gui's / os's03:44
coreymani used ubuntu once before,  but never really got into it.03:44
josh-lyeah its more windows user friendly these days03:45
coreymanjosh-l i would think the same... but like my problem.. gnome locks up for me with my xorg settings, kde doesnt03:45
josh-lyeah but thats not a hardware issue03:45
coreymancould very well be drivers03:45
josh-lno, drivers are the same for ubuntu/kubuntu03:46
coreymani know03:46
josh-lanyways performance is everything for me... back to gnome it is... l8r03:46
coreymanlolz kk03:46
coreymanim in that channel too.03:46
kenwhat do I do with a program that is downloaded but is a tar.gz file. I have not got it right yet.03:59
KDeskhi04:02
KDeskis possible to make the tray icons gray?04:03
etfbWhen I resume from Suspend or Hibernate, knetworkmanager takes a long time to find any wireless points.  Is there a way to speed up its scan, since the programmers didn't see fit to put a "scan now" option in the menu?04:04
coreymananyone here04:05
loganWHDhey does anyone here use VMWare Workstation 6.5.1 on Kubuntu?04:06
jim__hi jim04:09
DaSkreechKDesk: Grey?04:13
DaSkreechhi jim__04:13
KDeskDaSkreech: oh, sorry, my english is bad, I mean gray color.04:14
DaSkreechYes I know :)04:14
DaSkreech I'm not sure I understand04:14
DaSkreechThe system tray?04:14
DaSkreechyou want the icons there gray?04:14
KDeskDaSkreech: yes  :) i04:15
DaSkreechDid you try a grey theme?04:16
KDeskIs possible to add a bigger separator in the toolbar (in dolphin) between icons?04:16
DaSkreechoh04:16
DaSkreechhmm04:16
DaSkreechNot sure04:16
DaSkreechask in #oxygen04:16
DaSkreech They would be the people who know best04:17
KDeskDaSkreech: But with the gray theme everything would be gray.04:17
DaSkreechYes but the system tray follows the Panel colouring and the panel colouring follows the theme's colours04:18
KDeskah, you mean the plasma theme?04:19
KDeskDaSkreech:  ok, I will ask in plasma, thanks :)04:19
b0nnhi all, Im trying to remove a package with dpkg -r, and I cant because of dependency issues.  How do I find what they are, and how to deal with them?04:22
b0nndpkg: error processing konqueror-plugin-fsview (--remove): dependency problems - not removing04:22
DaSkreechapt-get -f install04:23
b0nnlol04:24
b0nnthat was broken04:24
b0nnthat's why I was having to dpkg -r the three packages it couldnt deal with04:24
DaSkreechwhat was the original error?04:25
b0nndpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/konq-plugins-kde3_4%3a3.5.10-0ubuntu1~intrepid2_i386.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/share/man/man1/fsview.1.gz', which is also in package konqueror-plugin-fsview04:26
b0nndpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)04:26
b0nnthere were three such errors04:26
b0nnI got rid of the first two with dpkg -r <package that clashed>04:27
b0nnbut had difficulty with the third04:27
b0nnbut Ive sorted it now, just noticed that dpkg -f was telling me which packages the one I was removing was causing dependency issues with04:27
Hanintest04:34
amarok24hello i need help04:37
amarok24hola necesito ayuda04:37
ec8ormorning!04:43
* Slartibartfast needs coffee ... fast!04:50
* ec8or has got enough coffee 4 next 2 hours04:55
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DaSkreech!es | amarok2405:15
ubottuamarok24: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.05:15
scianiacproblem with firefox flash player 10-- i have tried many autoscripts and similar things to get the plugin to work but still nothing. in usr/lib/firefox/plugins the ones i installed are their but when i open firefox and type about:plugins it's shows no flash plugins. any suggestions? thanks05:43
tarfart_hi05:45
tarfart_!fglrx05:45
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto05:45
DaSkreech!flash | scianiac I guess you followed this ?05:46
ubottuscianiac I guess you followed this ?: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (a recent version for !Dapper is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash05:46
humbertohola05:50
DaSkreechhola05:53
tarfart_everywhere where dolphin is the default, id rather if konquorer the default05:54
scianiacok i know i have 32 bit firefox and a 64 bit amd kubuntu and i have tried using the flash 10 from adobe05:54
scianiacthe firefox was installed with ubuntuzilla05:56
solifugusIs there a tool to import my windows fonts into linux?06:05
solifugusAnyone know how i can import the fonts from my windows partition?06:10
solifugusalso.. I don't see "wine" in adapt...06:10
DarkriftXapt-get install wine06:10
solifugusok.. 70.3MB's downloading and installing wine..06:11
solifuguswill need those fonts, somehow, too06:11
bazhang!fonts06:12
ubottuFont installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer06:12
keith_Does Kubuntu not autodetect secondary internal drives?06:21
chairmandoes anyone know aabout 10.1006:22
DaSkreechtarfart_: dolphin is only the default at one place06:30
DaSkreechkeith_: It should06:31
DaSkreechchairman: No06:31
keith_DaSkreech: It doesn't show it in the KDE menu, but Dolphin did let me mount it06:32
keith_DaSkreech: Is there a way to make it mount automatically at startup instead of having it mount when I open it?06:32
DaSkreech!fstab | keith_06:33
ubottukeith_: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab and http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions06:33
DaSkreechkeith_: It's probably in /media06:34
keith_It is now, but it wasn't until dolphin mounted it06:34
keith_DaSkreech: I know how to edit fstab, but I don't want to. It knows how to mount it on it's own, just not automatically.06:35
DaSkreechWell it's probably a mount otion that doesn't mount it till needed is my guess06:35
keith_DaSkreech: No idea how to change that?06:36
DaSkreechI've only seen that happen on a few occasions and everytime so far it was wanted06:37
DaSkreech:)06:37
DaSkreechIt's probably a mount option in /etc/fstab but if not it may be new hal udev rules06:37
DaSkreechWhich is more complex06:37
solifugusHow can I add an application to the menu on kde 4 ?06:38
DaSkreechkmenuedit06:38
solifugusok06:38
DaSkreechor drop the .desktop in the right directory and rebuild syscocoa06:38
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feorhi all!06:50
feorits internatinal chanel ?06:50
Wargasmyeah06:52
DaSkreechfeor: yes but english only :)06:52
Wargasmi think there are different channels for different languages though06:52
JohnFluxDaSkreech: americans not welcome :-D06:52
JohnFluxoh wait, the language06:53
Wargasmhaha06:53
DaSkreechJohnFlux: That's pretty close too depending on the age :)06:53
feor)) okey06:53
SlartibartfastHi ... Is it possible that when an upgrade of the kernel is been done, that grub in the mbr and the menu.lst won't be overwriten or changed?06:58
Slartibartfastbought a new HD and would like to install Opensuse 11.1, Debian Lenny, Windows XP and Kubuntu 9.04 on there ... But would like to keep Opensuse grub menu ,and that it won't be overwritten by each new version of the Jaunty development kernel07:04
DaSkreechgrub is overwritten by a new grub07:06
DaSkreech Kernel's just get appended to the list07:07
SlartibartfastSo that means when i install Jaunty before Opensuse, the new kernel installations won't replace my suse-grub menu? ... I only need to manage new kernel entries of Jaunty myself in Opensuse /boot/grub/menu.lst?07:08
DaSkreechAssuming that you tell Jaunty not to install grub yes07:11
DaSkreechOh wait before07:11
DaSkreechyes you just managethings from suse07:12
SlartibartfastOK ... Thats what i want.07:13
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Guest26785ciao a tutti07:14
L057Adm1nmyself i had nothing but problems with suse (lovin kubuntu though =)  i can play wow again !!!07:14
SlartibartfastI'm not a wow player07:15
Guest26785do you speak Italian?07:15
Slartibartfast!it07:15
ubottuVai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (click col tasto destro sul nome del canale per entrare)07:15
Guest26785ok thanks07:15
DaSkreechgrazie!07:15
DaSkreechWait07:15
DaSkreechno how do you say your welcome in italian?07:16
DaSkreechyou're07:16
guoxinji.,knm.,nm07:17
SlartibartfastDaSkreech: babelfish? :-)07:19
DaSkreech:-)07:19
DaSkreechavramucz: Ha I was listening to the album today07:26
noren!xorg07:27
ubottuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution07:27
norenis the xorg.conf file by defaut empty07:34
noreni want to make 1024 x 728 60 hz my default screen ressolution07:35
alex___test07:39
alex___hello world07:39
noren!hi | alex___07:39
ubottualex___: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!07:39
Tinasonhello alex___07:39
alex___i live in Russia. Today 9 of march - testing day. And i began test kubuntu alpha507:40
alex___))07:41
Tinasongood luck, and may the force be with you07:42
alex___thank you))))07:42
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noren!user07:57
ubottuTo add new users to your Ubuntu system, follow the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddUsersHowto - For administrative privileges, users need to be made members of the group "admin" - See !sudo07:57
kuaeraAre there any KDE programs for managing a general speech recognition service?08:02
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shbhello all08:10
Eruaranhello08:12
EruaranHey all I'm testing the latest Jaunty alpha and I must say, after a few hitches at the start, its going rather well... I think I'll just keep it installed08:12
EruaranKPackageKit doesn't seem to be working though08:13
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Ratchet_the_foxis there a way to manualy restart my sound drivers? if so what is it?08:24
Ratchet_the_fox!sound08:25
ubottuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP308:25
Ratchet_the_foxis there a way to restart my sound after it has crashed?08:28
njsk!googlechat08:28
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about googlechat08:28
njsk!gchat08:28
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about gchat08:28
njsk!chat08:28
ubottuInstant Messenger Client Kopete (http://kopete.kde.org) supports MSN, Jabber, AIM, YIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and, in KDE 3, IRC. See also !Pidgin08:28
njsk!pidgin08:29
ubottuThe Instant Messenger Client Pidgin (formerly Gaim) (http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Pidgin) supports MSN, XMPP (Jabber, GTalk and variants), AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ, YIM, IRC and others. See also !Kopete08:29
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Ratchet_the_foxhello?08:30
Ratchet_the_foxis anyone there?08:31
Eruaranyes08:31
Eruaranallegedly08:32
Ratchet_the_foxlol08:33
* Eruaran clicks on "get new comics" =D08:35
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noren!skype08:44
ubottuTo install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto - Please use open protocols instead if you can, see !Ekiga08:44
noren_hi there08:53
noren_is there a better alternative to skype in kubuntu08:53
Ratchet_the_foxwhat is it?08:54
Ratchet_the_foxi wish08:55
L057Adm1nwell what is skype08:58
L057Adm1nif its an instant messenger then there is kopete ad pidgen08:58
noren_L057Adm1n: allows u to place international calls08:59
L057Adm1nohh08:59
L057Adm1nget magic jack08:59
noren_L057Adm1n: does kopte and pidgin have voice chat support08:59
L057Adm1numm hmm or maybe not i dont know if it will work on linux09:00
L057Adm1nwell i know it has webcam support on kopete so im sure there is voice chat in there somewhere09:00
L057Adm1nwell on kopete i dont thing so i cant find voice chat anywhere just webca09:03
L057Adm1nnot sure about pidgen  havent used it myself09:03
noren_!voicechat09:08
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about voicechat09:08
L057Adm1n!voip09:14
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about voip09:14
L057Adm1n!voiceoverip09:14
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about voiceoverip09:14
noren_!ekiga09:16
ubottuekiga is an Internet telephony application included with Ubuntu, which supports the SIP and H323 protocols. Information and help at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Ekiga09:16
ikexHeya is anyone else having problems connecting to msn (using kopete 0.70) on kubuntu 8.1009:22
shbI am still fighting like hell with shockwave/flash and java in Konqueror?09:31
shbany tipps :=09:31
shbikex: no problem here with msn and kopete. but I recommend amse09:31
shbamsn09:31
L057Adm1ni got an advice stop using konqueror and get firefox09:40
L057Adm1nfirefox looks better and runs faster09:40
L057Adm1nand i feel its safer too09:41
shbhehe09:41
shbthx09:41
shbL057Adm1n: I was having integration troubles with firefox09:41
ActionParsnipyo yo yo09:42
shbnot opening files and thing like that without having to perform multiple clicks to designate the program(almost in all cases) that should open the file09:42
PeepsWould anyone in here know how to get neverwinter nights to work for linux?09:43
PeepsI have extracted all the files to a folder on my dektop09:44
Peepsbut get errors09:44
ActionParsnipPeeps: extracted what files?09:45
PeepsThere is instructions on their site09:45
Peeps(biowares)09:45
PeepsWhich includes binaries and source files09:45
ActionParsnipPeeps: thats just for the automatic update feature09:46
ActionParsnipPeeps: the game runs fine and gets a gold rating09:46
PeepsHrm?09:46
PeepsA moment09:46
ActionParsnipPeeps: have you read the appdb?09:46
Peepshttp://nwn.bioware.com/downloads/linuxclient.html09:47
PeepsI got both the game resources and the binaries09:47
ActionParsnipPeeps: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=87009:49
L057Adm1ni didnt know they even had a linux client09:50
L057Adm1ni would have ran the windows version in wine with playonlinux heh wow.09:50
PeepsI don't think It needs to be used in wine09:50
PeepsIt's a linux client, yah?09:50
L057Adm1nit dosnt have to be used in wine.  im looking it up right now09:51
L057Adm1nso lets see right now u got it in a folder on desktop right09:52
PeepsI have all that, yeah09:52
L057Adm1nsoo are you having problems getting the game to start or dose it start and crash09:52
PeepsTerminal gives loverly errors09:52
ActionParsnipPeeps: http://liflg.org/?catid=6&gameid=6509:52
ActionParsnipPeeps: native linux installer there09:53
bz0bhey guys from testers, is the kubuntu beta pretty stable?09:56
ActionParsnipbz0b: do you mean jaunty?09:56
bz0bActionParsnip: yes09:56
ActionParsnip!jaunty09:57
ubottuJaunty Jackalope is the code for Ubuntu 9.04, due April 2009 - Lots of breakage between now and April - Please join #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support.09:57
ActionParsnipbz0b: if you mean jaunty, say jaunty09:57
bz0bActionParsnip: will do09:57
drostieSo, um, the part of KDE that displays the desktop is dead for me. Quassel, Konsole, etcetera, still work, and still have cute fade effects and everything, but they do so over a black abyss. --_--;;09:57
PeepsActionParsnip: I am really new to Linux. No idea what to do here.09:58
Peeps:s09:58
drostieplasma sayeth: plasma(6272): Communication problem with  "plasma" , it probably crashed.09:58
drostieError message was:  "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply" : " "Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus)" "09:58
ActionParsnipPeeps: downlod the installer for the game and run it, it will read your cd and install the game as a native app09:58
PeepsI don't have the CD09:59
PeepsCDs, even09:59
ActionParsnipthen a mounted image, its the same deal09:59
PeepsI also don't have that. :P10:00
PeepsI just want the linux -client- to work10:00
ActionParsnipive not used that so I'm no help10:00
ActionParsnipPeeps: let me read this thing10:01
PeepsThat'd be great10:01
PeepsWant a terminal pastebin?10:01
ActionParsnipwow thats big10:01
ActionParsnipPeeps: did you read the site, this is EASY10:02
ActionParsnipyou extract the archive, enter the folder and run 'nwn'10:02
drostieDoes anyone at least know how to start the System Settings page from an Alt-F2 line? :-\10:02
ActionParsnipand it run10:02
ActionParsnipsystemsettings10:02
drostieActionParsnip: thanks.10:02
ActionParsnipdrostie: ^10:02
ActionParsnipPeeps: is that what is making your error occur in terminal?10:03
PeepsIs what, ActionParsnip?10:05
PeepsI am getting errors, yeah10:06
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ActionParsnipPeeps: do you get them wen you run the nwn file?10:06
volodyawhat application, in kubuntu, handles the audio volume buttons and display on-screen display of current volume?10:06
ActionParsnipPeeps: how are you generating the errors?10:06
ActionParsnipvolodya: kmix10:07
ActionParsnip!keyboard10:07
ubottuTo switch your keyboard layout on GNOME: System -> Preferences -> Keyboard (GNOME) - KDE: K -> System Settings -> Regional & Language -> Keyboard Layout (KDE) - Xfce: see https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/xubuntu/desktopguide/C/switch-keyboard-layout.html - See also !Shortcuts10:07
ActionParsnip!shortcuts10:07
ubottukeyboard shortcuts can be set in K -> System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse. Try also "Input Actions" in KControl. If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try the 'keytouch' package, explained at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KDEMultimediaKeys - See !Keyboard for changing layouts10:07
PeepsActionParsnip: Yes I get them when I run the file10:08
ActionParsnipPeeps: ok, can you pastebin the errors10:09
PeepsSure is there a PB for this chan?10:10
ActionParsnip!paste10:10
ubottupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)10:10
Peeps!paste10:10
ActionParsnipPeeps: its a bit retarded how there is no MD5 check for the main file10:10
PeepsActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/128680/10:11
ActionParsnipPeeps: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=11325910:13
ActionParsnipPeeps: if you'd websearched the last error you'd have gone to the site you got the big file from, theres a post with your exact error10:14
ActionParsnipPeeps: the page also contains a link to the page I just gave you with a glowing review10:14
PeepsThis don'esn't require keys?10:14
ActionParsnipPeeps: as I said, i havent used it so I can't clarify details like that. Try the guide I gave, seems intelligent10:15
PeepsEr10:15
PeepsNot keys10:15
PeepsCDs10:15
drostiewell, my bright idea didn't work --_--;;10:16
ActionParsnipPeeps: http://ubuntu-virginia.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=826059&page=410:17
ActionParsnipPeeps: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=113259&page=3810:18
urkudHi! What are debian/*.installgen files in source packages?10:19
urkud(or where should I ask this question?)10:19
ActionParsnipPeeps: looks like you need to edit the nwn script a little10:19
* drostie prepares to reinstall. --_--;;10:19
ActionParsnipurkud: try #debian10:19
ActionParsnipdrostie: little drastic10:19
urkudActionParsnip: thanks10:20
drostieActionParsnip: especially since I run everything through cryptsetup, which isn't on the install cd.10:20
ActionParsniptinfoil hat eh10:20
PeepsAha!10:20
PeepsThanks so much, ActionParsnip10:20
drostie(And my internet connection is run through knetworkmanager, which also isn't on the install cd.)10:20
ActionParsnipPeeps: you need to do a tonne of websearching duder, its possible the archive you have is damaged as the stupid devs havent given any way to verify it is consistant10:21
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ActionParsnipdrostie: you can configure connections with /etc/network/interfaces10:21
volodyaActionParsnip: fwiw, kmix was not at fault. It was 'kmilo' service that got messed up10:21
PeepsIt's fixed, Action10:22
PeepsI think I need to update tho10:22
ActionParsnipPeeps: cool10:22
ActionParsnipPeeps: then do what you gotta do10:23
drostieActionParsnip: I don't believe /etc/network/interfaces does encrypted wireless?10:23
ActionParsnipit can do wep ok, i'm sure theres a way to do wpa10:23
urkudYou can do wpa with wpa_supplicant.conf manually.10:24
urkudDon't know about /etc/network/interfaces, but manual setup is not too hard.10:24
ActionParsnipthat too10:24
drostieUm. Does it do IEEE802.1x, which isn't really either of the other?10:24
drostieBecause that's my problem with the new Network Management plasmoid.10:24
ActionParsnipwow thats a whole bunch of complexity10:25
drostiehaylookit, the manpage for wpa_supplicant.conf has an ieee802.1x example. :D10:26
drostieActionParsnip: you're telling me. --_--;;10:27
drostieKNetworkManager doesn't actually properly handle my university's wireless connection.10:27
drostieYou have to edit ~/kde/share/config/knetworkmanagerrc to tell it to do something that the GUI doesn't let you do.10:28
koperton!kubuntu+110:28
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about kubuntu+110:28
ActionParsnipdrostie: personally i wouldnt bother, as a home user wpa is sufficient10:28
ActionParsnip!ot | koperton10:28
ubottukoperton: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!10:28
ActionParsnip!jaunty | koperton10:28
ubottukoperton: Jaunty Jackalope is the code for Ubuntu 9.04, due April 2009 - Lots of breakage between now and April - Please join #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support.10:28
kopertonActionParsnip: thank you10:28
drostieActionParsnip: Right. I'll just, y'know, tell the biggest university in the Netherlands, "as a home user, WPA is sufficient." :-P10:28
ActionParsnipdrostie: well i guessed you were a home user, its rare to see admins in here10:29
drostieAlthough I think IEEE802.1x is less secure than WPA :-x10:29
drostieI'm neither admin nor home user.10:29
drostieI'm a university student.10:29
ActionParsnipdrostie: you should also configure your routers to only allow certain mac addresses10:29
drostieThe wireless is out of my hands, ActionParsnip. The network configuration is controlled by The Man.10:30
JuJuBeeWhat player can play blueray?10:30
ActionParsnipdrostie: you can get better security if you control behind the wireless access point.10:31
drostieI really don't think you're getting me. My university tells me, from on high, "Use IEEE802.1x key management with a TTLS/PAP auth scheme" and I either say, "ok," or else "I don't want to use your wireless access."10:31
ActionParsnipfair point10:32
drostieWhile I could easily stand on a table in the middle of this computer lab, rip the access point off of the ceiling, and then start poking around in it, I think that would be illegal.10:32
drostieAlso, it might break things for the dozen of other people here. :-D10:32
ActionParsnipdrostie: gotta break some eggs to make omlettes10:34
drostie:-D10:35
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ActionParsnipdrostie: tell them you want a course10:36
ActionParsnipdrostie: coming in to a chat room to configure a large university campus network security is hardly professional or realistic10:37
drostieI'm not configuring large university campus network security, ActionParsnip.10:37
drostieI'm just configuring my laptop to work with that security.10:38
ActionParsnipdrostie: the implications of a misconfiguration are quite large10:38
ActionParsnipi see10:38
drostieLike I said, I'm just a student.10:38
ActionParsnipthen i guess you will need the nm app, you could always use a wired link to get the program and connect that way10:39
drostieActionParsnip: Or I could use the wireless link that I'm connecting to you with. Which I already did. :-P10:39
drostieI'm not even here because of network problems; I'm here because plasma is apparently irrevocably borked.10:40
ActionParsnipdrostie: have you renamed the plasma config files? You could always switch to a different DE so plasma isnt used10:40
drostiewhere are the config files? In ~/.kde?10:41
ActionParsnipdrostie: aye10:42
urkuddrostie:  ~/.kde/share/config/plasma*10:42
ActionParsnipdrostie: cd ~/; find . -name plasma*10:42
ActionParsnipdrostie: rename plasmarc and the other one whos name I forget then restart x10:43
drostieworth a try, I guess. k, I'm going to reboot from scratch with this, see what turns up.10:43
drostiethanks.10:44
* ActionParsnip thinks plasma is pretty flakey at best10:44
nancyai..10:52
hannes__hi, anybody here, who can help me to install urbanterror11:02
urkudhannes__: what is it?11:03
lab__hi. I have a very tiny /tmp dir. I don't understand why. here's df -h : http://paste.linuxassist.net/21356011:04
hannes__i downloaded urban terror with the file ioUrbanTerror.i386. How can i make it work11:04
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ActionParsniphannes__: jump into the folder you install UT to and run ./ioUrbanTerror.i38611:06
ActionParsniphannes__: its an awesome game11:06
hannes__tx, ill try, please wait if it works ;)11:06
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hannes__bash: ./ioUrbanTerror.i386: Permission denied11:07
urkudhannes__: chmod +x ioUrbanTerror.i38611:07
ActionParsniphannes__: where did you install UT to on your system?11:07
urkudlab__: Sometimes ubuntu mounts tmpfs to /tmp11:08
hannes__i only downloaded the files end distracked them to the desktop11:08
urkudhannes__: ls -l ioUrbanTerror.i38611:08
lab__urkud: I cannnot compile a program: gcc says   DBManager.cpp:946: fatal error: error writing to /tmp/cc0G6knn.s: No space left on device11:08
hannes__root@hannes-desktop:/home/hannes/Desktop/UT/UrbanTerror# chmod +x ioUrbanTerror.i38611:08
hannes__root@hannes-desktop:/home/hannes/Desktop/UT/UrbanTerror#11:08
urkudhannes__: try to run ioUrbanTerror after chmod'ing11:09
ActionParsniphannes__: ok then use: sudo chown -R $USER ~/Desktop11:09
ActionParsniphannes__: are you logged in as root?11:09
hannes__root@hannes-desktop:/home/hannes/Desktop/UT/UrbanTerror# ls -l ioUrbanTerror.i38611:09
hannes__-rwxr-xr-x 1 hannes hannes 1627558 2009-03-09 11:09 ioUrbanTerror.i38611:09
hannes__root@hannes-desktop:/home/hannes/Desktop/UT/UrbanTerror#11:09
ActionParsniphannes__: are you logged in as root?11:10
hannes__yes11:10
ActionParsniphannes__: why?11:10
lab__urkud: could it be the reason for which I hear swapping often ?11:10
hannes__no not loged in i used sudo su. hope thats right11:10
ActionParsniphannes__: no ubuntu user neds to log in as root, you can easily break your system plus you have severly reduced your system security11:10
ActionParsnipthats not so bad11:10
ActionParsnipsudo -i is better11:10
urkudlab__: No11:11
ActionParsnipthe # means root11:11
hannes__ok11:11
lab__I don't understan why I have a so tiny dir....11:11
hannes__ill read some lecture about linux later. but now i want to play :D11:11
ActionParsniphannes__: enabling the root account makes your system less secure11:11
lab__I can't compile anything11:11
hannes__k11:11
ActionParsniphannes__: type exit so you are user again11:11
urkudlab__: look at /etc/init.d/mountoverflowtmp11:11
ActionParsniplab__: sudo apt-get install build-essential11:11
hannes__ok done11:11
hannes__can i now start the prog? ill try11:12
urkudlab__: ActionParsnip: the problem is tiny tmpfs mounted on /tmp11:12
ActionParsniphannes__: now run: sudo chown -R $USER /home/hannes/Desktop11:12
lab__ActionParsnip: this is not the problem11:12
lab__urkud: could it be the result of a wrong installation of kubuntu ?11:12
ActionParsniplab__: what errors do you get when you compile, please use pastebin to give the command as well as the error11:13
lab__ActionParsnip: already told11:14
urkudActionParsnip: As I've said the problem is that /etc/init.d/mountoverflowtmp mounts 1M tmpfs on /tmp11:14
urkudlab__: df -kP /tmp | grep -v Filesystem11:15
lab__urkud: overflow                  1024       220       804      22% /tmp11:15
urkudlab__: Sorry. df -kP / | grep -v Filesystem11:16
lab__urkud: /dev/sda1            958453164 278471840 631294740      31% /11:16
lab__urkud: consider that some days ago I had the disk full, and I had to delete a lot of files (but, obviously not system files).11:17
ActionParsniplab__: use pastebin in future11:17
urkudlab__: Have you rebooted with non-full disk?11:18
urkudActionParsnip: for one-liners?11:18
lab__ActionParsnip: for one line I don't think pastebin is a sensate idea11:18
lab__ActionParsnip: please, don't make users waste time11:18
lab__urkud: I'm not sure of that, let's try. thanks for your support11:19
drostie:-D ActionParsnip has great ideas sometimes. I had forgotten that you could just delete config files to erase their bugs.11:19
drostiethank you ^__________^11:19
ActionParsnipdrostie: i just moved off of kwin + plasma and a tonne of errors fluttered away11:19
urkudlab__: If Ubuntu hasn't enough space on /tmp while booting, it mounts 1M tmpfs.11:19
ActionParsniplab__: sudo apt-get clean11:20
lab__urkud: so, rebooting should automatically correct this, right ?11:20
ActionParsniplab__: will free up some space11:20
lab__drostie: LOL11:21
lab__:)11:21
drostieActionParsnip: is there an alternative to kwin/plasma for kde 4.2, or did you just move off of kde 4.2?11:21
lab__let's try11:21
urkudlab__: Yes, rebooting should help.11:21
ActionParsnipdrostie: fluxbox, i use kde apps but hate kde itself11:21
* Peeps groans11:21
Peepsi can't figure out how to get SoU and HotU11:22
urkudPeeps: what is SoU and HotU11:22
PeepsNeverwinter Nights11:22
laburkud: great!! thanks! I would have wasted a lot of time with this, without your help11:25
urkudlab: I had the same problem some time ago.11:25
lab(and without remembering the huge delete I made some days ago)11:25
labanyway, I think it's a bug of kubuntu11:25
labthanks again11:26
urkudlab: I don't think so. It just tries to boot somehow if your disk is full.11:26
laburkud: yes, but when the disk is not full anymore11:27
labit should manage to restore the previous situation....11:27
urkudlab: It's not so easy.11:27
labI see11:27
laburkud: but at least a warning.... "suggest to reboot your machine"11:28
JuJuBeeI am trying to set up dual head config.  Using nvidia settings app I have my external monitor (using laptop) attached and when I move mouse to it, I see an X rather than a standard pointer and no background or panel...  Any ideas?11:50
JuJuBeemy Xorg file is http://paste.ubuntu.com/128719/11:53
ActionParsnip!dualhead12:00
ubottuInformation about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama12:00
JuJuBeeVert 30-81 and Horiz 56-7612:00
imhello12:02
imthis is Tim12:02
imanyone could help me ?12:02
Dr_willisand the problem is?12:03
imhi12:05
imhelp12:05
im?12:05
Dr_willistell the channel your problem.. and see who can help12:06
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peaches__whats apt command to see version of installed package12:12
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urkudpeaches__: dpkg-query -l ?12:13
peaches__ya thx12:14
peaches__(god i hate kubuntu adept)12:14
bazhanginstall synaptic then12:14
peaches__too many dependencies12:14
bazhangor simply use the command line12:14
urkudpeaches__: I'm using aptitude in yakuake...12:15
bazhangyakuake is nice12:15
peaches__thats what the dpkg-query question was for12:15
peaches__love yaukake12:15
bazhang!info yakuake12:15
ubottuyakuake (source: yakuake): a Quake-style terminal emulator based on KDE Konsole technology. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.9.3-0ubuntu1 (intrepid), package size 206 kB, installed size 1292 kB12:15
bazhangbeen updated for kde4?12:15
peaches__yep12:15
peaches__svn yakuake recently fixed split view terminal bug too12:16
ActionParsnipreal men use yakuake :)12:21
bazhangs/men/folks12:21
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corigo3Since the latest updates my Battery meter has disappeared. How can I get the battery meter to launch?12:24
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urkudcorigo3: You can try to re-add battery widget.12:36
corigo3I don't wan12:37
corigo3I don't wan't the Widget I want the standard tool bar icon. The widgets are too big12:37
ActionParsnipcorigo3: can't you add the widget to the bar to make it small12:38
corigo3urkud: I did add the widget in the interim12:38
ActionParsnipor just resize it12:38
corigo3It is in the bar, and can't be sized any smaller. It is still too big12:39
urkudcorigo3: Hm... I don't understand what "tool bar icon" is.12:39
ActionParsnipcorigo3: this may help: apt-cache search battery monitor12:40
corigo3There is a standard panel with the Speaker, BlueTooth, Network Manater, etc. that normally would also have a batter meter12:40
ActionParsnipcorigo3: maybe it shows up in another users logon, you can then check what processes are running etc12:42
urkudcorigo3: KDE-3 or KDE-4? Are you talking about system tray?12:43
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zeroc00lHi guyz13:12
Eruaranhi zeroc00l13:12
zeroc00ljust a question, somebody can drive me on how to create kde 4.2 applications, it's my first approach to kde developing13:12
Eruaranah I'm not a developer13:14
zeroc00lthx anyway Eruaran13:14
Guest20369go to the kde channel, cruise the kde site13:14
ActionParsnipzeroc00l: i'd head to #kde13:14
Guest20369there is a lot of documentation13:15
Guest20369right, I forgot this is freenode, just join #kde13:15
zaapielhello13:15
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zeroc00lah yes the documentation is exaustively13:15
zaapielis openofficer 3 gonna ship with kubuntu 9.04?13:15
JontheEchidnaYes13:16
ActionParsnip!jaunty | zaapiel13:16
ubottuzaapiel: Jaunty Jackalope is the code for Ubuntu 9.04, due April 2009 - Lots of breakage between now and April - Please join #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support.13:16
Shaman666I really don't know why Intrepid didn't ship with OOo 3.x13:16
hazamonzo__Afternoon gents. How might i go about refreshing my desktop (taskbar) it seems to have gone a little mad (Kubuntu 8.10 KDE 4.2)13:17
ActionParsnipShaman666: you can add the OO repos and install it, its simple13:17
zeroc00lShaman666: Yes it's ridicoulus, OO3 is stable I really don't understand13:17
Shaman666no doubt13:17
Shaman666it's also much faster (for me)13:17
hazamonzo__When i close windows the tabs still exist in the taskbar13:17
zeroc00lyep it's true13:17
ActionParsnipShaman666: the version of wine on the repos is also pretty bad compared to the one on the wine repo, same deal13:18
Shaman666kde 4.2 is working pretty well for me... for what it's worth13:19
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hazamonzo__Any idea's?13:23
SlartibartfastSo i have installed kubuntu again on a new HD and wanted to copy some music to my new HD from the old one ... But some characters in names of some files seems not to be in the charset which the system now uses ... how to solve?13:24
ActionParsniphazamonzo__: try removing the taskbar then readding it13:24
Shaman666I think world peace can be achieved with Cool Ranch Doritos and fizzy drinks.13:24
Shaman666It's a big idea, whose time has come.13:24
urkudSlartibartfast: use convmv13:25
ActionParsniphazamonzo__: if you upgraded kde (one of the updates does this) you need to readd the toolbar things13:25
Slartibartfastmmm ... what will it do, urkud?13:25
hazamonzo__ActionParsnip: How do i go about that?13:25
ActionParsnipSlartibartfast: mount it with extra options so the characters are read correctly13:25
urkudSlartibartfast: It will move directory "from" to directory "to" iconv'ing filenames13:26
urkudSlartibartfast: sorry, convmv is not a way to go if you haven't these characters.13:26
ActionParsniphazamonzo__: right lick manager -> add item and see what you have on the bar, then right click the task manager -> remove, then right click -> add item and readd the object to the bar.13:27
urkudWhich charset do you use now?13:27
SlartibartfastMmmm ... first i will look into this remounting with some better charset13:27
Slartibartfastthanks for the warning urkud :-)13:27
hazamonzo__well...13:28
gabodddd13:28
urkudSlartibartfast: I use utf-8 and I can see all the characters.13:29
linknet11013:32
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shyamhai guys. /me is not a kde user but have a friend who have just installed kubuntu and have no grub entries to load it.14:00
shyamand now am with him on a live session..(he is remote..)14:00
shyamwas thinking to write the grub/menu.lst parameters manually..14:01
bazhangwhich was installed first xp or kubuntu14:01
shyamxp..14:01
bazhangthat is odd14:01
ActionParsnip!grub14:01
ubottuGRUB is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto14:01
shyamand he can log on to14:01
bazhangcheck the grub factoid14:01
shyamand he can log on to xp but there is only memtest.14:01
shyamand as i made him to ls on /boot it seems there is no vmlinux14:02
shyamops vmlinuz only i can see a vmcoreinfo-2.6.27-714:03
shyamis that equivalents?14:03
shyami mean to give the grub parameters manually..14:03
shyamkernel and all..14:03
bazhangshyam, did you read that link?14:03
shyambut its not a windows installation after kubuntu, straight kubuntu install on an xp system..14:06
bazhanghttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto  <--that one14:06
shyamah not that straight.. hey went on some guided partitioning..14:06
shyambazhang: yeah going through that.14:06
bazhangthough it should detect the windows xp install; I suspect something went wrong with the initial kubuntu install14:07
geniiSounds like maybe grub was not directed to install on mbr14:08
shyamgenii: oh pausible thanks!14:09
shyamhey btw, the menu.lst only have link to ubuntu 8.10 memtest and windows xp!14:10
shyamand thats the problem..14:10
SlartibartfastSo ... i tried something, but unsuccesfull ... how to mount external USB disk/partition with ext3 file system to use UTF8 as charset?14:11
shyamand /boot have, abi-2.6.27, system.map, vmcoreinfo, initrd14:11
shyamwould kubuntu put vmlinuz in some other place than /boot?14:11
Shaman666unlikely14:12
Shaman666it might be an initrd file tho14:12
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geniiIt can happen if you manually specified root=something  in update-grub or so, but yes, unlikely14:12
seahello :-)14:13
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shyamShaman666: but with initrd, it also require vmlinuz too right?14:13
shyamwhat he did is to split a partition and gave for guided installation..14:14
shyamso better advice him to go for a reinstall?!:)14:14
shyamthe idea i had is to say him to boot up on the same live cd and to pick the filename of vmlinuz from /boot but /boot don't seem to have that itself!14:15
shyamgenii: he didnt do anything with update-grub.. a poor newbie!:)14:16
sea2hello, I'm new at kubuntu und want to mount the internal drives on logon ... is this posible without using /etc/fstab ?14:16
shyamsea2: /etc/fstab is that file which says which all drives to be mounted where, without that you can use the "mount"command so that it will be mounted for the session..14:16
ActionParsnip!fstab14:16
ubottuThe /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab and http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions14:17
sea2;-)14:17
ActionParsnipsea2: i'd use fstab, its a simple enough creature14:17
sea2I'm not new at unix-systems, so i know fstab and mount-commands14:17
sea2I simply search for an option in kubuntu14:17
ActionParsnipsea2: if you can use mount then fstab is identical14:18
sea2:-P14:18
ActionParsnipsea2: gparted might give you a clicky gui but if you can use mount its no different whatsoever14:19
sea2I'm not sure but i think gparted does not mount on startup14:20
SlartibartfastActionParsnip: i tried to mount manually the partition on the external usb disk ... but seems EXT3 doesn't have UTF-8 or charset as option14:21
Slartibartfastany idea?14:22
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trappistmaybe somebody can help me figure out why my load average is so high on my server.  according to top, nothing's eating a lot of cpu, nothing's eating a lot of memory, and there's no i/o wait, yet load averages are 1.0 across the board.14:29
geniitrappist: If it's on a server, maybe ask in #ubuntu-server14:31
sea2@trappist try using "atop"14:34
sea2it could be that there is much io-usage14:35
zaapielcan your /boot partion be ext4?14:36
trappisthrm, not used to atop14:37
sea2@zaapiel this depends on the used kernel14:37
zaapielwell when 9.04 is out?14:38
sea2i don't think that the current ubuntu supports it (but i'm not sure)14:38
zaapielcause thats when i was planning on making the moive14:38
bazhangapril 0914:38
geniibazhang: I was tempted to say the same thing14:39
Pici!jaunty14:39
ubottuJaunty Jackalope is the code for Ubuntu 9.04, due April 2009 - Lots of breakage between now and April - Please join #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support.14:39
zaapielerr i meant when 9.04 is out will grub support booting from ext414:39
Picizaapiel: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Jaunty/9.04 support/discussion.14:39
zaapielk14:40
leifdk1978? how do i see wich engine koquer is running have bouth installed14:40
trappistok atop agrees with top: CPU | sys      0% | user      0% | irq       0% | idle    100% | wait      0% |14:45
trappistbut load is still 1.0 :/14:45
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groovy26hej, gdzie wpisać w xorg.conf domyślną rozdzielczość i odświeżanie?14:53
groovy26ups14:54
Pici!pl14:54
ubottuMozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl14:54
peaches__are ubuntu versions generaly good at scheduled releases or have setbacks, belated releases and such?14:54
trappistok my load issues were apparently caused by a bunch of zombie processes.  had to reboot, looks good now.14:54
Picipeaches__: We generally stick to the 6 month release schedule. Dapper (6.06) was released 2 months late, but I wasn't around for that so I'm not sure what the delay was, but that was nearly 3 years ago14:55
SlimeyPeteit seems to generally be "six months give or take a fortnight or so", which is pretty good14:56
groovy26in which section of xorg.conf should I type default resolution and vertical refresh?14:56
SlimeyPeteI think the vertical refresh goes in the device section for the graphics card, and resolutions go in the screens section14:57
SlimeyPetebut my memory is a little hazy - not used xorg.conf for a while14:57
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groovy26ok, thx14:59
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ActionParsnipgroovy26: want my xorg.conf its fairly populated15:01
ActionParsnipgroovy26: http://pastebin.com/f2fc86e3c15:02
ActionParsnipoops thats smb15:04
ActionParsniphttp://pastebin.com/f20b473d15:04
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tyler_dhaving problems with kvpnc timeouts on a cisco vpn connection15:23
corigo3KDE 4.2 .... After latest Vault updates I have suddenly lost my battery meter in my system tray! Any ideas how to re-activate it?15:36
Mannequinhi. for a fresh Kubuntu 8.10 install + KDE 4.2, is there a guide to learn/fix any issues related to glitches en Firefox?15:42
drH0usehello. is there a italian guide about kubuntu? do you know?15:44
corigo3!Italian15:49
ubottuVai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (click col tasto destro sul nome del canale per entrare)15:49
tyler_dgetting the error error: The required daemon (vpnclient) isn't available, connect will be disabled. when trying to use kvpnc with cisco(proprietary)? any insights15:51
corigo3Mannequin: what issues?15:55
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Laeborgi use x11vnc on my home server, but every time I disconnect, i must go to the terminal on the server and type 'x11vnc' for starting x11vnc up again.15:55
Mannequincorigo3: for example, tabs on Firefox have some glitches. I've currently fixed them by installing KFirefox (a theme)15:56
Mannequinbut I wonder if there are any other recommended fixes or settings that should be applied15:56
DaSkreechcorigo3: It wasn't hidden?15:58
DaSkreechMannequin: GLitches?15:58
DaSkreechThe pages have glitches or the tabs?15:58
corigo3Mannequin: sorry I can't be of help. Good god, that's an ugly interface. Sorry, I'm an Opera user, but don't have issues on my default install for Firefox, and my quick search didn't dust up any dirt.15:59
corigo3DaSkreech: I didn't hide it.... if it was how to unhide it?16:00
MannequinDaSkreech: not sure if "glitches" is the word. I mean, it doesn't look fine, like if the tab is being drawn incorrectly16:00
DaSkreechcorigo3: Right click the system tray and system tray settings -> unhide16:00
DaSkreechMannequin: The tab or the page?16:01
norenhey all16:01
corigo3DaSkreech: Ok... I see the list, the Hide is empty and the Visible does not containt the battery meter.16:01
Mannequinthe tab itself. This happens on a fresh Kubuntu 8.10 install, both on KDE 4.1 and KDE 4.2. I've fixed it by installing KFirefox theme.16:02
DaSkreechcorigo3: start powerdevil16:02
DaSkreechMannequin: try installing the qt-gtk-engine16:02
Mannequinalso, radio buttons and check buttons didn't look good on Firefox. I've had to use "Raleigh" for GTK applications16:03
norenDaSkreech: guess very busy here today16:03
DaSkreechnoren: Looks it16:03
corigo3From the command line? I don't see it any where else? What is the command?16:03
MannequinDaSkreech: I will look at qt-gtk-engine16:03
DaSkreechalt+F2 -> powerdevil16:03
noren!powerdevil16:04
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about powerdevil16:04
DaSkreech!info powerdevil16:04
ubottupowerdevil (source: powerdevil): Power manager for KDE 4. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3.0-kde4.1.2-0ubuntu1 (intrepid), package size 160 kB, installed size 556 kB16:04
norenoh maybe usefull inn laptops only !!16:05
corigo3Not installed.16:05
jpedrozaI have spent the last half-hour on Google looking for an answer, but haven't found anything; Guidance Power Manager says my battery was removed, bit it is still connected.16:05
jpedrozahas anyone seen this before, or have a fix?16:06
DaSkreechcorigo3: install :)16:08
corigo3APT Error. Context:16:08
corigo3    Package download failed,16:09
corigo3    Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.,16:09
DaSkreechsudo apt-get -f install16:09
corigo3Still powerdevil... how to command line just powerdevil?16:15
DaSkreechI think so16:16
* DaSkreech hasn't run it personally since I don't have a laptop16:16
corigo3It doesn't seem to support libplasma3 only 216:17
DaSkreechUrk16:17
JuJuBeewhere do I go to install wine in kde4.2?  Used to be able to use system settings.16:18
DaSkreechapt-get install wine ?16:19
JuJuBeeSo it was removed from system setttings...?16:23
danhey i was having some problems with my kde install.  For example, once it completed the kmenu was running extremely slow not to mention the network manager was not even showing up when i installed so i was hoping someone here could tell me why this would be happening16:32
danversion 4.2 btw16:33
ghostcubedan: nvidia ?16:37
JuJuBeeAnybody here able to get dual head working with kde4.2 ?16:43
dan_anyone know how to get the wireless working16:44
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corigo1But where's the deault battery manager... Powerdevil looks nice, but as JuJuBee says why "was it removed from the system settings... ?"16:47
estanhi. i guess everyone is having the problem with flashplugin-nonfree taking a lot of CPU at sites like youtube? anyone know if it's possible to do something about it?16:47
DaSkreech!wifi | dan__16:55
ubottudan__: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs16:55
DaSkreechestan: How much CPU?16:55
DaSkreechJuJuBee: I think installing Wine puts an entry in the system settings16:56
estanDaSkreech: well, at least 70-80% on e.g. youtube. (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/flashplugin-nonfree/+bug/225165)16:56
DaSkreechOh wow I have like 20-30 %16:56
estanor well it drops down to 50% sometimes, i've seen some sites where it's been worse.16:57
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estanreally? what CPU is that?16:58
DaSkreech1.2 Ghz AMD T-bird16:59
estanhm ok. weird.16:59
estani have a 2ghz core2duo and it's eating from both cores when i play flash content.16:59
estanoh well. not much to do since it's closed source.17:00
DaSkreechStop watching Terminator 2 recoded in Flash?17:00
estan..but.. but..17:00
khashayarHey folks, I asked this yesterday but had no reply on it, so trying again. Anybody knows how to enable the sesame backend to soprano?17:00
estan;)17:00
DaSkreechwhich one is soprano again?17:01
estanit should pick up and use sesame2 if it finds it i think.17:01
estani'm using it, don't think i had to configure anything special.17:01
estanyou need java though.17:01
corigo1Is there anyway to get the application short cut icons on the Tool Bars smaller? Same size as the System Tray perhaps?17:07
JontheEchidnacorigo1: you could try using the QuickLaunch plasmoid if you have KDE 4.217:08
josehi, i'm trying kde 4.2 in intrepid. I don't want to shut down the monitor when a I close the lid, where's that config option?17:11
victimcorigo1: http://www.nabble.com/Kubuntu-8.10-KDE-4.2-td21712215.html17:13
victimcorigo1: I found the instructions on that page very useful for setting up the kde4 quicklauncher17:13
* il is away: ïÔÏÛ£Ì.17:14
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josei've found it in the  guidance config. It's strange that this configuration is not available in the systems settings, or at least I haven't found it17:14
XThiefhello!, i have a xfx geforce 9800gtx+ and it seems like its getting really hot in ubuntu, anyone knows how i can see the temperature to see if its all ok?17:15
DaSkreechjose: post a bug on that17:16
jose Maybe i have to post another bug. The guidance settings seem to have no effect. It still turns off the monitor when the lid is closed.17:17
corigo1That's even bigger than the other one17:17
joseyes17:18
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DaSkreechXThief: lmsensors and some front end17:21
joseThe bug is a little bit more complex. The lid is turned off and the screen locked, but if i move the mouse the external monitor is turned on.17:23
joseThere's several guidance bugs, similar to this one. I don't know if I should open a new one or join on of them. None is exactly as the one I'm describing.17:24
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DaSkreechjose: Wow Welcome to X/powermanagement minefield maze in Linux17:25
jose:)17:25
DaSkreechI'd suggest you start with that specific problem and follow it up to upstream projects17:25
JuJuBeeDaSkreech: just installed and no entry in system settings.17:25
DaSkreechhrrm I wonder if there was an extra package17:26
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JuJuBeeDunno.  I tried installing a program, it seemed to work17:29
JuJuBeeI still need to get dual head working properly in kde4.2  I currently can run regular desktop and wm on primary display and finally can run icewm on secondary.  I don;t much like icewm, what other options are there?17:31
DaSkreechfluxbox ?17:31
JuJuBeeHmm won't let me send fluxbox to secondary display...17:33
JuJuBeeError: Couldn't find screens to manage.17:33
JuJuBeeMake sure you don't have another window manager running.17:33
seeleanyone using krecipes? it keeps crashing17:39
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khashayarestan: thanks for the comment, I didn't see it due to all the clutter in this channel :-p It doesn't seem to use it here. How can I make sure it's being used?17:41
estankhashayar: i don't know, first make sure that the kdesupport you're using is compiled with support for sesame2.. make sure java is installed.. then maybe check the Used Soprano Backend setting in $KDEHOME/share/config/nepomukserverrc.17:43
estan(i'm using KDE compiled from SVN trunk, so it might be different).17:44
khashayarestan: Ah, I see. Thanks. I'll take a look around.17:44
khashayarestan: Does nepmouk + strigi work well on trunk? Cause it's pretty crashy with 4.2.1.17:44
estankhashayar: not crashy but it had some bugs last i tried it, mostly in the ioslave i think.17:50
khashayarestan: OK, sounds good. I hope some fixes can be backported. I'm trying to move over to KDE from this release on (i.e. Jaunty). So far I love a lot of the things I see. Would be nice to have nepomuk + strigi working as well.17:52
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HOMELESS___hi i  can not print  in  colors , any one  can help me  out17:58
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olskolirchow do I make my hostname kubuntu stay at my shell prompt instead of the ip address?  It seems to keep renigging back to ip after I reboot18:03
DaSkreechset your host name?18:04
DaSkreechHOMELESS___: Hmm?18:04
olskolirci used: sudo hostname kubuntu18:04
DaSkreechJuJuBee: fluxbox --replace ?18:04
Dr_willis!hostname18:04
ubottuUse hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hostname  and /etc/hosts . WARNING! Make sure that your current hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly. Alternatively, use the gui at System > Administration > Networking on the "General" tab18:04
DaSkreechJuJuBee: Also #fluxbuntu :)18:05
olskolirci restarted my konsole and kubuntu shows up as my hostname but not after I reboot18:05
Dr_willisBe CAREFULL when changing the histname18:05
Dr_willisyou have to do more then just the Hostname command18:05
DaSkreecholskolirc: That's a local variable it will get overwritten at boot time18:07
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DaSkreecholskolirc: see what ubottu said18:07
olskolircdone DaSkreech thanks18:08
JuJuBeeDaSkreech: I tried logging in with fluxbox and got gret dual head setup, of course I dont really like fluxbox....  But, still cannot send fluxbox to 0.1  Used --replace option18:10
DaSkreechwell I play with neither dual head or fluxbox18:11
DaSkreechAs I said you can probably check in #fluxbuntu to have a much better chance of someone who does18:11
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JuJuBeeI would prefer to get kwin on both ... KDE is really  nice.  They did a great job with 4.218:12
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DaSkreechJuJuBee: Ah yes then #kde :)18:23
DaSkreechor #kwin I suppsoe18:23
JuJuBeeThanx.  Will try kwin I suppose.18:25
bsfourteen#join billers18:29
olskolircwhat do we use to build flash pages with please18:36
martijn81olskolirc: i do not think there is anything available for this18:37
dwarderwhat is flash pages?18:37
dwarderadobe18:37
dwarder?18:38
olskolircyes dwarder like that18:38
dwarderolskolirc: http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flex/flexbuilder_linux/18:39
olskolircthanks dwarder18:39
dwarderhttp://osflash.org/linux18:41
dwardernp18:41
redtiger318:44
HOMELESS___no sound  any help ?18:45
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fosco__!sound | HOMELESS___18:46
ubottuHOMELESS___: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP318:46
MachinTrucChoseHi...I would like to be able to Remote Desktop in to Kubuntu from a Windows computer. What is the best way to do this? I'd like it to run as a service, so I can connect whenever I want, ie not have to create personal invitations Krfb Desktop Sharing.18:49
MachinTrucChoseis there some mechanism built-in to do this already, or will I need to download a separate VNC server package?18:49
zipperhi . i installed kubuntu by wubi. kubuntu waiting at boot on swap file section18:50
zipperhi . i installed kubuntu by wubi. kubuntu waiting at boot on swap file active  section18:50
zipperhi . i installed kubuntu by wubi. kubuntu waiting at boot on swap file active  section18:55
DaSkreechzipper: you started it from inside windows18:58
zipperyes18:58
zipperDaSkreech: yes18:59
DaSkreechI'm not familiar with Wubi installs :) Does it have configuration for swap file?18:59
zipperyes it sud be19:00
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SteBoHi! does anyone here use Kopete 0.70 on Kubuntu 9.04? Does connecting to ICQ currently work for you?19:07
BusErrorhmm whats with the screen lock being active, despite settings, since the last kde update ? how do I force it off ?19:08
DaSkreechSteBo: Yeh19:10
canenanybody notice font-size in the kopete chat window does not obey the text size in settings?19:13
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DaSkreechDidn't notice19:17
canenguess it's just me then19:19
canendoesn't matter which text size or theme is use the minimum seems to be 1019:19
DaSkreechcanen: I'm not saying you are wrong :)19:21
DaSkreechJust that I didn't notice19:21
canendidn't say you did :)19:21
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francesco01ciao19:29
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kuaera_Wireless internet drops out when wireless house phone is turned on. FCC violation?19:36
DaSkreechpossibly19:38
Dr_williskuaera_,  seen that happen befor also19:41
Dr_willistry the microwave oven. :) that also killed wireless in this house.19:41
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kuaera_Is it the wireless handset's fault, or the wireless internet router?19:41
Dr_willisThis was on my older wireless a/b cards i had years ago.. The phone would ring.. and it would kill wireless by just ringing. :)19:41
Dr_willisbroberly a bit of both. all 3. :) handset/router/card19:42
kuaera_Should I move the wireless handset bay away from the wireless internet router, as they're about a metre apart?19:42
Dr_willisYou could change wireless channel's also.19:42
kuaera_[Holy crap. I'm from the US and I said "metre".]19:42
Dr_willisId move them. :)19:42
Dr_willisa yard away :P19:42
kuaera_While people are still active, does anyone know the status of kate/katepart? I've read about some features they wanted to implement three years ago that haven't made it in, and I'm ending up envious of textmate's snippets and simple syntax highlighting schema :<19:44
DaSkreechok19:45
DaSkreechkate has had syntax highlighting for like ... a long time19:45
kuaera_DaSkreech: I know, but it's nowhere near simple to create a new theme.19:46
kuaera_DaSkreech: Each mimetype has its own set of custom colors because the "default" defined set of colors is nowhere near diverse enough19:47
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DaSkreechAH and what was the listing of stuff you saw that you wanted implemented ?19:51
kuaera_"Insertion Templates": http://kate-editor.org/article/insertion_templates But I guess that there's katemate, which is an answer to textmate-like support in kate19:53
kuaera_That's from late 2008, and has shown no progress...so I guess it's not kate's/katepart's fault.19:54
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DaSkreechKuaera|Out: #kate :)19:58
LeeJunFanICQ update broke kopete?20:10
DaSkreechI'm on UCQ now20:15
DaSkreechICQ20:15
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FreeMindedHello everyone, I'm new to IRC...20:30
FreeMindedanyone around?20:31
Dr_willishmm20:31
FreeMindedwell, I have a problem with KOrganizer since updating to KDE 4.2.120:31
FreeMindedweek and day views don't show anymore20:32
FreeMindedanyone having the same issue?20:32
Flare183FreeMinded: I'm here20:36
DaSkreechHmm I don't think I've opened Korganizer since 4.2.120:37
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FreeMindedmmh, not much going on here20:54
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bobosonope20:54
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FreeMindedno one having issues with day or week view in Kontact calender?20:57
FreeMindedon KDE 4.2.1, on 4.2 it worked well20:57
DaSkreechFreeMinded: #kontact ?21:04
tomas77hi all; my hardy's kopete got into trouble connecting to ICQ server, it claims something like 'The client version you are using is too old.'. Does someone of you know whether it is sufficient to raise a version in ~/.kde/share/config/kopeterc ? If it is, to what numbers?21:08
fd88bsalllut ici21:14
fd88byen a qui ont deja essayé de recupere des données sur une partition formattée ?21:14
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tomas77just to let you know - i've solved it by myself - after changing ClientId to 267 in ~/.kde/share/config/kopeterc kopete can connecto to icq server again21:18
tomas77bye21:18
DaSkreechfd88b: pourtugese ?21:20
DaSkreechno21:20
DaSkreechwait21:20
DaSkreech!fr | fd88b21:20
ubottufd88b: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr21:20
fd88byes french21:21
fd88bi'll speak english now21:21
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fd88bactually i'd rather go to the french canal :)21:25
DanuHello I forgot my password in Seahorse (to decode a file, it's a pgp), is it anyway to change it or recovery it?21:28
DanuHello I forgot my password in Seahorse (to decode a file, it's a pgp), is it anyway to change it or recovery it?21:35
DaSkreechDanu: Yes but best place to ask would be #ubuntu21:35
DanuDaSkreech:  thanks, i just asked there, but they told me:  nope, you just need to remember the password21:37
DaSkreechPretty sure you can blow away the DB config21:37
DaSkreechBut I guess they know21:37
DanuThanks anyway :)21:38
DaSkreechDanu: Looked in ~/.gnome for the seahorse dir?21:39
DaSkreechDanu: Oooh wait to decode? No you need the password :)21:40
DaSkreechIt's encoded to that password21:40
Danuright21:40
slow-motionhi21:41
DanuI knew i had to wrote it down :P21:41
DanuHi slow-motion21:41
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slow-motionhi Danu21:41
kuaeraDaSkreech: The KateMate project seems to be totally defunct :/21:47
DaSkreechkuaera: Is there code associated with it publicly?21:48
kuaeraDaSkreech: Yes; they have a googlecode SVN21:48
kuaeraBut it's never been updated, and I'm trying to find how to compile it21:48
DaSkreechContact the lead dev and find out if there .. oh21:48
DaSkreechHa21:48
DaSkreechWell yeah when did it start?21:49
kuaeraMay 2008, 'ended' June 14th21:49
alien_how can i change whole kde language via cmdline / icon? (kde 3.5)21:50
DaSkreechok that's probably all Qt4 code then21:50
jaimeI'd like to ask a question about execv and fork..21:52
DaSkreechThat's good information21:52
DaSkreechkuaera: contact the original author and see why it was stopped. If it was something like time constraints see if they would be willing to mentor someone else21:53
DaSkreechGoogle Summer of Code is coming up :)21:53
kuaeraDaSkreech: I don't even know if the code is worth updating and maintaining, though. There's no screenshots or anything21:53
DaSkreechI'm not sure why there would screenshots of a schema :)21:54
DaSkreechIt's like kate has support for vi commands21:54
DaSkreechHow do you get screenshots of that?21:54
jaimeI fork and execv an instance of ppp and then in the parent kick a thread that checks for the pid of pppd, however a ps -A | grep pppd shows that pppd is defunct, even though the parent is still execuyting?21:54
kuaeraWell, it could show a snippet that had been inserted or somesuch21:55
david_#ubuntu-es21:55
panos4everany hackers here???21:55
goofeyubottu: !offtopic | panos4ever22:01
ubottupanos4ever: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!22:01
ign0ramushey all.22:07
ign0ramusquestion about grub: whenever i install a new kernel, grub wants to re-write root as "(hd0,2)"... It should be (hd0,1), otherwise I cannot mount the partition.  is there any way to change this instead of manually configuring grub each time?22:08
goofeyign0ramus: looks like update-grub gets hard drive info from /etc/fstab - is /etc/fstab correct?22:11
ign0ramusgoofey: checking now...22:11
ign0ramusgoofey: it seems to be - what line in particular should i be looking at?22:12
goofeyign0ramus: the one that describes the root dir I guess22:13
ign0ramusgoofey: "/dev/sda3 /media/sda3 ext3 defaults 0 0"  - seems right to me22:13
goofeyign0ramus: actually, I think /dev/sda3 *is* (hd0,2), not (hd0,1)22:14
goofeyso, either you are wrong or your fstab is22:14
goofeywhat does mount say about your / partition?22:14
ign0ramusgoofey: entry for /dev/sda3: "UUID=d805768f-ed15-46c0-b56b-5dfa9ce75e26 / ext3 relatime,errors=remount-ro 0 1"22:15
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ign0ramusgoofey: paste - http://paste.ubuntu.com/128983/22:16
goofeytype mount and give me the line that describes /22:17
ign0ramusgoofey: Hmm.... /dev/sda2 on / type ext3 (rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro)22:18
goofeyign0ramus: wow - your fstab is wrong then22:18
ign0ramusgoofey: i never heard of that... is there a way to have it autodetect and repair... i suck at manually editing22:19
goofeyI don't know of a way to automatically update the /etc/fstab file22:19
goofeythe trick is going to be keeping the UUID straight22:19
ign0ramusgoofey: yeah, i've messed up config files before, and it's not fun (even with a backup)...22:20
ign0ramusgoofey: maybe I'll just keep the config i have (it is working now that I've edited grub) until 9.04 comes out22:21
goofeyign0ramus: that would work too - until you update your kernel.  Sorry to not be more help.  Never heard of fstab being created incorrectly22:21
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ign0ramusgoofey: yeah, me neither.  but this lappy has been upgraded since Feisty, and I think when Jaunty comes out, I'm doing a fresh install.  I'll finally get around to putting /home on a separate partition, too!  I just hope KDE4 will be stable enough22:22
goofeyif it helps, it looks like update-grub ignores lines starting with #, so it's getting it's info from the UUID labels in /etc/fstab, not the /dev/sda* descriptions22:23
goofeyign0ramus: ign0ramus so far, for me, kde4.2 seems pretty nice (I've been playing with 9.04 in vmware)22:23
ign0ramusgoofey: that's what I'm hoping... I tried 4.0 & 4.1 and still wasn't confident enough to take the plunge... I've heard mostly good things about 4.2, so may be time for a switch.  Thanks for all your help.22:24
goofeyign0ramus: anytime22:24
slow-motionn822:32
coreymanso im trying to configure kwrite22:33
coreymanwith the font styles.22:33
coreymanmy things like while and for are yellow, how do i change that.22:33
donaldAbout when will Kubuntu get updated with KDE 4.2?22:34
Noughmad_about when JJ comes out22:35
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Noughmador you can get kubuntu-experimental22:36
donaldOK, but then I have to be like a software engineer to install that sort of thing. I'd like to know if/when Kubuntu will allow a simple update.22:37
welton!realtek22:38
ubottusome help for recent Realtek chipsets can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/RealtekRTL8187b22:38
weltonsomeone knows how to install the rtl8187b in the kernel 2.6.27??22:39
Noughmaddonald: 1. you don't have to be an engineer to install this22:39
Noughmad2. if you just wish to update, it will be in Jaunty (in about 2 months?)22:40
coreymanlol software engineer.22:40
donaldAh, OK. I can live with that, I guess. I just installed KDE today and noticed it was v 3.x.22:41
weltonsomeone knows how to install the rtl8187b in the kernel 2.6.27??22:41
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tarfarthi22:41
Noughmadits 4.1 by default in Intrepid (8.10) I think...22:42
tarfartanyone have info on installing fglrx on intrepid? the bot talks about hardy and gutsy22:42
panos4everis kde4.2 still beta???22:42
donaldRe: lol software engineer - you can laugh all you want, but I've been using various operating systems since the early '80s and I am not interested in fiddling or compiling anymore.22:42
donaldKDE 4.2 was March 9th.22:43
Noughmadalright :)22:43
coreyman..22:43
donaldOK, got it. "KDE 4.2 will be officially supported as part of Kubuntu 9.04 being released April 23rd 2009."22:47
tarfarti have w32codecs installed, yet i cant read wmv filse22:54
tarfartif i can read mpeg, should i be able to read wmv ?22:54
tarfart!codecs22:54
ubottuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats22:54
tarfarti already ran sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras22:57
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tarfartit's still not working23:00
tarfarti ran sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras23:00
tarfartand i cant play wmv23:00
YippMNi have a friend running kunbuntu , cause hes new to linux , and i can't seem to find xine in adept , anyone have idea;'s on this , run gentoo23:08
YippMNi run gentoo :)23:08
DaSkreechYippMN: Did he just update it?23:08
tarfartapt-get install xine23:09
tarfartxine-ui23:09
YippMNyou mean update kubuntu, no , its 8.04, but ive run the live dc here on my machine and don't see23:09
tarfartapt-get install apt-get install xine23:10
YippMNxine-ui like i would use for gentoo , nbut all ther libs and such are installed23:10
tarfartwhen i ran gentoo, i had no problem with xine.23:10
DaSkreechYippMN: Might not have all the repos enabled23:10
YippMNtarfart,  yeah i was thinking of having him do that23:11
YippMNDaSkreech, repo's enabled?23:11
DaSkreech!repo23:19
ubottuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories23:19
bongfrogany kde guru want to help me get a 4.2 back to life?23:19
DaSkreechYippMN: ^^^23:19
DaSkreech!info xine23:19
ubottuPackage xine does not exist in intrepid23:19
DaSkreech!info xine-ui23:19
ubottuxine-ui (source: xine-ui): the xine video player, user interface. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99.5+cvs20070914-2 (intrepid), package size 1465 kB, installed size 3380 kB23:19
YippMNDaSkreech,  ok , so we could just do apt-get install xine-ui , and not worry about useing adept then , and i imagine we can do su in terminal23:21
bongfrogall of the sudden on login kwin / plasma will not run.    Started off with plasma dying and .....23:23
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tarfarthow to get fglrx on intrepid23:28
DaSkreechbongfrog: what's the error message?23:28
DaSkreech!fglrx | tarfart23:28
ubottutarfart: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto23:28
DaSkreechYippMN: Yes if you like. I think that you may want libxine instead of xineui23:29
tarfartyeah, that doesnt talk about intrepid23:31
tarfartit only mentinos hardy and gutsy23:31
bongfrogDaSkreech -   there are no error messages on the desktop or background but no window manager or plasma either.    Not sure where to look for logs for kde23:31
tarfarthow am i supposed to know if they use the same, kernels, versions of xort, etc.23:31
tarfartagain, how do i get fglrx installed on intrepid ?23:31
DaSkreechbongfrog: oh Hmm can you get a konsole running?23:31
bongfrogDaSkreech - ya I am able to alt f2 and get a console open.23:32
DaSkreechOh sweet23:32
DaSkreechrun kwin &23:32
bongfrogDaSkreech - kwin &    does not thing.    kwin gives me a segfault  error23:33
DaSkreechkwin --replace23:33
bongfrogDaSkreech - seg fault again23:34
DaSkreechhmm23:34
DaSkreechplasma23:34
DaSkreechSee if that segafaults as well23:34
DaSkreechtarfart: Far as I know it's the same procedure as hardy23:34
tarfartoh ok.,23:35
bongfrogDaSkreech - many errors there.23:36
DaSkreechand no plasma?23:37
DaSkreechOk run konqueror &23:37
bongfrogDaSkreech - last bit is " org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply" : "Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus)" "23:37
DaSkreechwait23:37
DaSkreechyou have no window manager right?23:37
bongfrogcorrect23:37
DaSkreechgah23:37
DaSkreechsudo apt-get install twm23:37
bongfrogwhy twm?23:38
DaSkreechIt's small fast and it works23:38
DaSkreech It should ship with X23:38
DaSkreechbut meh23:38
DaSkreechUnless you have Gnome or another windowmanager already installed?23:39
bongfrogok installed23:39
DaSkreechtwm &23:39
phitooHello all! I'm running KDE 4.2 on intrepid and I keep having applications freeze on me when doing file operations. For example saving an attachment from KMail will freeze Kontact.23:39
bongfrogok we have twm manager23:40
phitooAnd every time it happens krunner also dies.23:40
DaSkreechok23:41
phitooUnfortunately I can't reliably reproduce the behaviour. So I was wondering if anyone had seen this.23:41
DaSkreechkrunner dying is insteresting23:41
DaSkreechbongfrog: try konqueror &23:41
DaSkreechthen you can pastebin the errors23:41
phitooDaSkreech: Try frustrating...23:41
bongfrogDaSkreech - all was working great untill just a little while ago.......23:41
DaSkreechphitoo: KDE 4.2.0 or 4.2.1 ?23:42
tarfartDaSkreech: well the hardy way still didnt work23:42
tarfartinsmod: can't read '/lib/modules/2.6.27-7-generic/volatile/fglrx.ko': No such file or directory23:42
phitooDaSkreech: 4.2.0. I am afraid of another upgrade,23:42
bongfrogDaSkreech: no errors and runs fine as I can tell23:43
DaSkreechtarfart: you enabled ATI in the restricted manager23:43
DaSkreechphitoo: Ok is that from the PPA or the backports ?23:43
bongfrogDaSkreech: just too soon ..     Seg fault23:44
DaSkreechbongfrog: any reason for the segfault ?23:44
tarfartDaSkreech: i ran dpkg-reconfigure -phigh linux-restricted-modules-2.6.27-7-generic23:44
tarfartand that worked23:44
tarfartwhat ever the hardy way is23:44
phitooDaSkreech: Backports. But I had the problem on PPA packages also.23:44
DaSkreechphitoo: What video card?23:44
tarfarthttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI     //2 lines for the hardyway.  they dont work on intrepid23:44
DaSkreechtarfart: what's in /lib/modules/2.6.27-7-generic/volatile ?23:45
phitooDaSkreech: AMI with fglrx and intel 945.23:45
DaSkreechtwo video cards?23:45
tarfartDaSkreech: not fglrx23:45
phitooDaSkreech: Sorry for the confusion. I meant that I have the same behaviour on two different computers.23:46
tarfartvolitile dir http://rafb.net/p/xdUyzk85.html23:46
phitooDaSkreech: the desktop has an AMI card, I think a 3200, and I'm using the non-free driver.23:47
bongfrogDaSkreech: odd i see krunner in the ps list23:47
phitooDaSkreech: The laptop is a Thinkpad T60 with Intel 945 chip.23:47
DaSkreechbongfrog: Yeah that's what does alt+F223:48
DaSkreechphitoo: And any file dialog slows down the machine?23:48
DaSkreechtarfart: which video card are you using?23:49
phitooDaSkreech: Sometimes the file dialogs die too.23:49
DaSkreechbongfrog: Why wouldn't you see it?23:49
DaSkreechphitoo: With an error?23:49
tarfartis there a Restricted Drivers Manager23:49
tarfartDaSkreech: X series23:50
bongfrogDaSkreech: odd thing i see a segfault for synergys about the time all this started. followed by a plasma seg fault then nepomukservices23:50
tarfartX1200 ati card23:50
DaSkreechAh hmm ok23:50
phitooDaSkreech: No error. The windows just freeze. And in the process list the app is listed with D.23:50
DaSkreechsynergy?23:50
DaSkreechphitoo: how quickly do you need it fixed ?23:51
bongfrogDaSkreech:  synergy is an app that lets you use one mouse for many computers.23:51
DaSkreechI know. Just trying to figure out if it's a symptom or a cause23:51
bongfrogDaSkreech: this is the first time I have seen it be and issue (use it daily for the laptop )23:51
phitooDaSkreech: Hmmm? Yesterday would be good. :-)23:52
tarfartwhere is the Restricted Drivers Manager ?23:52
bongfrogDaSkreech: they ref...   libstdc++ ,    libc   and libQtCore      respectivly23:52
bongfrogDaSkreech:  I did build a new user and was able to log in correctly with that user.23:53
bongfrogDaSkreech: so it must me in my user config.   Any Idea how to clean that with out nuking kmail?23:54
DaSkreechbongfrog: try mkdir ~/plasmabkup && mv ~/.kde/share/config/plasma* ~/plasmabkup && plasma23:54
tarfartwhere is the Restricted Drivers Manager ?23:55
DaSkreechphitoo: try logout of kde and move your ~/.kde to a backup location23:55
bongfrogDaSkreech: I allready did a rm .kde/share/config/plasma*     earlier   before I ran out of ideas.23:56
DaSkreechtarfart: good question let me check23:56
phitooDaSkreech: No can do right now. But if you tell me what to look for I'll do it ASAP and report back.23:57
DaSkreechphitoo: do you know Virtual Terminals?23:57
phitooDaSkreech: Konsole?23:57
DaSkreechphitoo: No TTY1 TTY2 etc23:58
DaSkreechtarfart: jockey-kde ?23:58
DaSkreech!info jockey-kde23:58
ubottujockey-kde (source: jockey): KDE user interface and desktop integration for driver management. In component main, is optional. Version 0.5~beta3-0ubuntu6.1 (intrepid), package size 8 kB, installed size 96 kB23:58
phitooDaSkreech: You may safely assume I am not a noobie.23:58
DaSkreechphitoo: Ok logout of KDE drop to a console mv ~/.kde ~/.kdebkup then jump back to X and login23:59

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