[03:06] <CIA-3> casper: TheMuso * r581 trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs):
[03:06] <CIA-3> casper: * scripts/casper-bottom/30accessibility && ubiquity-hooks/30accessibility:
[03:06] <CIA-3> casper:  - use laptop_detect function in blindness profile as well
[03:08] <CIA-3> casper: TheMuso * r582 trunk/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.158
[07:20] <_ruben> CarlFK: in case its still an issue, my guess would be that the use of single quotes prevents the $variables to be expanded
[10:07] <cjwatson> CarlFK: what _ruben said. I don't know how that could possibly have worked before; perhaps you previously used double quotes? You should read up on shell variable expansion, I think.
[10:34] <davmor2> evand: m-a is still poping up on a use whole drive should I bug it?
[10:34] <davmor2> and do you want me to bug the issues I had with wubi forgot to ask :)
[10:34] <evand> davmor2: sure, assign me to it.
[10:34] <evand> davmor2: oh, thanks for reminding me.  I *may* have fixed the no-autorun issue
[10:35] <evand> pulling down a new CD now to confirm
[10:35] <davmor2> is it in today's iso it's testing day today :)
[10:35] <evand> yes
[10:35] <evand> it should be
[10:36] <davmor2> righto I'll test in about 6 minutes then :)
[10:54] <davmor2> evand: Doesn't seem to be autorunning here still
[10:56] <davmor2> evand: If I double click on the cd icon I get the egg timer but nothing opens
[11:37] <davmor2> evand: Out of interest why does umenu learn more just take you to the ubuntu front page.  Would it not be better to link to the desktop info or help.ubuntu.com or something similar?
[11:38] <evand> davmor2: help.ubuntu.com strikes me as more of a resource for those who already have Ubuntu installed
[11:39] <evand> whereas the Ubuntu front page lets you find out more about what Ubuntu is, and what the different variants offer.
[11:39] <davmor2> evand: Makes sense
[11:41] <davmor2> on a plus note wubi seems to be working still :)
[11:52] <evand> hooray
[11:57] <davmor2> evand: Have you downloaded the latest image?
[12:06] <evand> yes, booting now
[12:07] <davmor2> evand: let me know if you get dodgy audio off the login but works fine after that please
[12:08] <evand> I don't have audio configured in KVM
[12:08] <davmor2> :( oh well :)
[12:11] <davmor2> any joy with auto run?
[12:20] <davmor2> evand: bug 339898 you're already subscribed according to the also notified section
[12:20] <evand> ok
[12:20] <evand> no joy with autorun :/
[12:21] <davmor2> I'm bugging that now unless you want too :)
[12:23] <evand> not sure what I'm doing wrong here.  I would think ^M in vim would be sufficient.
[12:24] <evand> will have to deal with later though, there are more important things to attend to
[12:26] <cjwatson> you could run it through perl or whatever rather than hardcoding the ^Ms in the source file
[12:28] <evand> cjwatson: unix2dos ok on cdimage, or would you prefer perl?
[12:30] <cjwatson> perl -ple 's/\r$//; $_ .= "\r"' # simple-and-stupid unix2dos equivalent
[12:30] <cjwatson> well, -pli -e if you want it to operate in-place
[12:30] <cjwatson> but antimony does have unix2dos installed so you can use it
[12:31] <evand> ok
[12:31] <cjwatson> and in fact other bits of cdimage already use todos
[12:31] <evand> ah, good deal
[12:31] <evand> I was grepping on the wrong string then
[12:36] <CIA-3> partman-partitioning: cjwatson * r700 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 64ubuntu5
[12:37] <davmor2> evand: I've subbed you to a couple of the wubi bugs I just did :)
[12:39] <evand> davmor2: noted, thanks
[12:40] <davmor2> evand: I've only done the 2 obvious ones because the other was already know anyway :)
[12:53] <tjaalton> cjwatson: bug 334278 is still happening
[12:54] <davmor2> cjwatson: I was about to say the very same thing. It is only occurring on alt installs and not on live too anymore though
[13:02] <tjaalton> the partition table is updated though, and the next time when I try to use regular partitions, it'll hang while trying to remove the volume groups
[13:02] <tjaalton> (just like before)
[13:09] <cjwatson> ok, I have to go out now but will investigate when I get back
[13:14] <CarlFK> _ruben: cjwatson: yep.  double did it.  thanks.   i knew I had read something about that years ago... :)
[14:11] <davmor2> cjwatson: my condition is I did a live install (which worked fine) and then went for alt install over the top of it and it died
[14:55] <davmor2> evand: I know what I meant to say to you.   Do an install from the menu rather than live session install and try and click on London on the tz map
[14:56] <evand> It's what I've been spending my day on
[14:57] <evand> trying to get a proper miller projection working
[14:57] <evand> failing miserably
[14:58] <cjwatson> davmor2: ok, thanks
[15:00] <davmor2> cjwatson: I just had the install die on me anyway I don't think it's the install but I'll have a quick look at the log to be sure before reporting :(
[15:32] <davmor2> install is screwed up by:
[15:32] <davmor2> Mar  9 14:52:11 in-target: The following packages have unmet dependencies.
[15:32] <davmor2> Mar  9 14:52:11 in-target:   libavformat52: Depends: libavcodec52 (>=
[15:41] <cjwatson> so that's some package's fault
[15:41] <cjwatson> can't test any of this myself until downloads finish
[15:47] <davmor2> cjwatson: yes.
[20:37] <cjwatson> charlie-tca: I'd be rather surprised if bug 317618 as such had come back; I suspect a different bug with similar symptoms. Did you file another bug?
[20:37] <cjwatson> I can't reproduce davmor2's :-(
[20:38] <cjwatson> tjaalton: can you get the usual logs to me for your installer problem?
[20:52] <tjaalton> cjwatson: tomorrow, yes
[20:53] <charlie-tca> cjwatson: I have the logs, should I file a new bug or give it a day? It is missing packages again, but not the same onew
[20:53] <charlie-tca> I did not file a new but, and did not add to that old one, knowing they sometimes clear up in a day or two.
[20:54] <charlie-tca> I did want to let you know it was failing, similar to before, and that was the easiest way
[20:56] <cjwatson> charlie-tca: oh, missing packages? I don't see how that's the same as your previous bug at all
[20:56] <cjwatson> tjaalton: thanks
[20:56] <cjwatson> charlie-tca: was the missing package libavformat52 by any chance?
[20:57] <tjaalton> cjwatson: partman and syslog?
[20:57] <cjwatson> tjaalton: yes please
[20:57] <tjaalton> k
[20:57] <charlie-tca> yes
[20:57] <charlie-tca> cjwatson: will that cause the partitioner to fail, too?
[20:57] <cjwatson> charlie-tca: no
[20:58] <cjwatson> charlie-tca: in what way did the partitioner fail for you?
[20:59] <charlie-tca> okay, I'll run it again and pull those logs. Using alternate cd only, Guided partitioning, if the drive has existing partitions, it gives the
[20:59] <cjwatson> charlie-tca: so it looks as if slangasek has fixed / is fixing the libavformat52 bit, but that's entirely independent
[20:59] <charlie-tca> "Error informing the kernel about modifications to partition /dev/sdc5-- Device or resource busy.
[20:59] <cjwatson> your bug may or may not be the same as anything that davmor2 is experiencing
[21:00] <cjwatson> I'm trying to teach davmor2 about the importance of not deciding that bugs are the same until proven, but it seems to be taking time
[21:00] <charlie-tca> Okay, the libavformat52 is at the end of "Select and install software"
[21:00] <cjwatson> charlie-tca: device or resource busy> ok, that is definitely distinct from your previous bug
[21:00] <cjwatson> and is similar to Dave's in terms of symptoms but who knows ...
[21:01] <charlie-tca> I didn't know, but I wanted to talk before filing it. Do you want a bug report on it?
[21:01] <cjwatson> charlie-tca: I need to see /var/log/syslog and /var/log/partman from the running installer after reproducing the bug, and to have as good a description of the previous state of the disk and of what you told the partitioner to do as possible
[21:01] <cjwatson> yes, I would like a bug report please
[21:01] <charlie-tca> Okay. I will get everything together as detailed as I can
[21:02] <cjwatson> we nailed down one possible cause of this recently, but it looks like there are some more bits and pieces hanging around
[21:03] <cjwatson> charlie-tca: just briefly though, was LVM involved in any way?
[21:03] <charlie-tca> no, just guided partitioning of a disk with three manual partitions used previous
[21:04] <cjwatson> ok, that simplifies matters at least
[21:04] <cjwatson> d-i or ubiquity?
[21:04] <charlie-tca> Told it use entire disk, no LVM, no encryption
[21:04] <charlie-tca> di
[21:04] <charlie-tca> d-i
[21:05] <charlie-tca> I get the error in 32bit and 64bit, Ubuntu and Xubuntu alternate cd's
[21:06] <charlie-tca> Zei4eek3d
[21:14] <cjwatson> change that password ;-)
[21:14] <cjwatson> I tried to reproduce this earlier today and failed, so it's more subtle than "breaks for everyone", like all the best bugs :-/
[21:17]  * charlie-tca hangs head; yeah, gave it out again.
[21:18] <charlie-tca> Well, I can do it everytime
[21:19] <charlie-tca> We just reboot after partitioning fails, and install until the libavformat52 failure
[21:19] <cjwatson> one useful thing to try would be starting 'udevadm monitor >monitor 2>&1' from tty2 just before starting the partitioner, then running the partitioner until it fails, then extracting the 'monitor' file
[21:19] <cjwatson> that may be useful to developers
[21:19] <cjwatson> you may find that this causes the problem to vanish, but even so
[21:20] <charlie-tca> okay
[21:23] <charlie-tca> That didn't stop the error
[21:24] <charlie-tca> When I said "Go Back", the partition completed
[21:25] <charlie-tca> Now it is installing
[21:25] <charlie-tca> I'll file it with the logs, anyway
[21:25] <cjwatson> ok
[21:25] <cjwatson> the monitor file should still be useful
[21:34] <cjwatson> shtylman: is bug 338064 something you could fix?
[21:41] <CIA-3> ubiquity: cjwatson * r3081 ubiquity/ (debian/changelog ubiquity/frontend/kde_ui.py):
[21:41] <CIA-3> ubiquity: * KDE frontend:
[21:41] <CIA-3> ubiquity:  - grub_device_entry is now a combobox, so we need to use currentText()
[21:41] <CIA-3> ubiquity:  rather than text() (LP: #337181).
[21:47] <cjwatson> shtylman: also bug 340023
[21:48] <charlie-tca> cjwatson: bug 340188
[21:48] <cjwatson> thanks. FWIW a reasonable starting package is debian-installer
[21:48] <cjwatson> (I'm more likely to see it that way)
[21:49] <cjwatson> charlie-tca: did you manage to get the monitor file?
[21:49]  * charlie-tca slaps head.
[21:49] <charlie-tca> Thought I told it debian-installer
[21:49] <charlie-tca> No, there was none
[21:50] <charlie-tca> Is there a place to access it? I still have the failed install up
[21:50] <cjwatson> did you run 'udevadm monitor >monitor 2>&1'?
[21:50] <charlie-tca> yes
[21:50] <cjwatson> how are you extracting files?
[21:50] <charlie-tca> web
[21:50] <cjwatson> ah, ok. run 'anna-install openssh-client-udeb' from tty2, then you can scp the monitor file from the root directory to some other computer
[21:51] <charlie-tca> Thanks
[22:00] <CIA-3> casper: TheMuso * r583 trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs):
[22:00] <CIA-3> casper: * scripts/casper-bottom/30accessibility && ubiquity-hooks/30accessibility:
[22:00] <CIA-3> casper:  - Disable pulseaudio for the blindness profile, as pulseaudio and espeak
[22:00] <CIA-3> casper:  and portaudio v19 do not play very well with each other, lots of
[22:00] <CIA-3> casper:  crackling, cut of speech. At least espeak via ALSA natively is usable,
[22:00] <CIA-3> casper:  and latency is relatively low.
[22:03] <CIA-3> casper: TheMuso * r584 trunk/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.159
[22:05] <cjwatson> I'm getting really tempted to have libparted do system("udevadm settle") between removing and adding partitions
[22:05] <cjwatson> except that that would be stupid
[22:05] <charlie-tca> bbl
[22:05] <cjwatson> charlie-tca: argh, this monitor file is useless
[22:06] <cjwatson> charlie-tca: did you type both the redirection operators (>monitor 2>&1) exactly as I gave them?
[22:06] <charlie-tca> yes
[22:06] <cjwatson> but the monitor file is essentially empty
[22:06] <charlie-tca> I think so. I can run it again later tonight, if I need to
[22:06] <cjwatson> when did you start it, and when did you stop it?
[22:07] <charlie-tca> Started right before telling it "yes" on partitioning the drive. never stopped it
[22:07] <charlie-tca> oops
[22:07] <cjwatson> ok, that should have worked
[22:07] <cjwatson> it does rather look as though you did something like forgetting the & though
[22:08] <charlie-tca> I'll try again later, then.
[22:08] <cjwatson> ok, thanks
[22:50] <shtylman> cjwatson: yea...I will take a look at both bugs tonight and should be able to handle it
[22:52] <cjwatson> thanks
[22:55] <cjwatson> charlie-tca: it would be interesting to know if http://paste.ubuntu.com/128992/ fixes the problem when applied to /lib/partman/commit.d/30parted (you can apply it by just editing that file with nano before the partitioner starts)