[00:00] <defendguin> dont look at me like that
[00:00] <tgm4883> afaik, you can't make a perpetual motion machine either
[00:02]  * rogue780 made a perpetual motion machine
[00:03] <defendguin> i'm playing around with boxee and i have to be able to easily switch between apps
[00:04] <tgm4883> thats not the same as using a remote to use the applications menu
[00:05] <defendguin> tgm4883: what do you suggest
[00:05] <tgm4883> what do I suggest so you can use the applications menu?
[00:05] <tgm4883> a mouse
[00:06] <tgm4883> alternatively, you could configure a button on your remote to launch the application that you want
[00:07] <tgm4883> you might also try setting up a wii-mote as a mouse
[00:09] <defendguin> hmm  the wii mote might not be a bad idea
[01:11] <lawson23> I have a question on getting to mythbuntu via VNC is a vnc server installed by default with the 8.10 package? If so any resources concerning setting up and using this in mythbuntu?
[01:13] <darthanubis> mythweb seems to have stopped working
[01:49] <dsbw>  Is it possible to set up MythTV so that it will just accept an input from (e.g.) an analog source? (Say, a VCR or cable box?)
[01:50] <hads> Yes
[01:53] <dsbw> OK. Are there instructions somewhere as to how? I can identify the capture card (Haup-150) easily enough, but of course there's no Video Source. So how would I watch?
[10:17] <arocs> !help
[10:17] <Zinn> !help For a  complete list of my knowledge visit: http://www.baablogic.net/Zinn.cgi  Other available commands: !status, !about, !bug [bug_number].
[13:46] <fxr> can someone tell me where the httpd.conf file is in mythbuntu? is it apache2.conf ?
[13:51] <rhpot1991> fxr: looking for something mythweb specific?
[13:52] <fxr> no i am trying to install wtorrent
[13:52] <rhpot1991> fxr: normally each site will have its own info within /etc/apache2/sites-available
[13:53] <rhpot1991> but apache2.conf is a system wide config, so you can do things in there as well
[13:54] <fxr> ok i see, ll have a poke around in those locations. thanks.
[14:11] <arocs> Hi to all ..
[14:12] <arocs> I have lot of problems with mythbuntu 8.10 and ATI x1600 (closed and open) drivers with vsync in screen when watching videos ... any clues ?
[14:18] <arocs> I have tried with sv , x11 and opengl output with same results ...
[14:18] <arocs> sv=xv
[15:01] <williambrown0000> I am having video "stutter" problems.  This varies channel to channel.  I suspect that the higher resolution stations are causing me problems.  To verify this, I would simply like to have the "input type" 1080i/720p displayed channel by channel in the OSD.  I haven't yet figured out how to do this.  Thanks for your help.
[15:06] <arocs> Someone with vsync problems un mythbuntu 8.10 ... ?
[15:39] <williambrown0000> Yes, vsync problems with 8.10.  My first problem is that I can't easily figure out what type of video, 1080i/720p, is giving me trouble since, via the OSD(on screen display), there is no indicator of the type of video I am currently watching.
[15:39] <williambrown0000> So, if you'll could tell me how to display the video feed type, via OSD or otherwise, that would help me narrow-down the issue.
[15:44] <williambrown0000> I am running a 2.40 GHz Pentium 4 with 1gig of ram and an NVidia Geforce 7600GS(512MB).  I don't know if I am using XvMC or not.
[15:44] <williambrown0000> My CPU maxes-out on some channels.  On others, it is about 15% busy.
[15:45] <williambrown0000> The machine is a client in a myth master/client pair.  I assume that this does not matter for live TV viewing.
[15:46] <rhpot1991> williambrown0000: do you see monochrome menus ever?
[15:46] <rhpot1991> thts how you can tell if XvMC is on
[15:47] <williambrown0000> Which menus?  The menus associated with the frontend like the menus/screens I see when I select "watch TV"?  In that case, they are in color.
[15:47] <williambrown0000> The OSD is in color.
[15:47] <rhpot1991> hit m while watching video
[15:47] <rhpot1991> OSD as well
[15:48] <williambrown0000> OK.  Hold on.
[15:48] <rhpot1991> williambrown0000: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/XvMC
[15:48] <rhpot1991> your cpu will be overwhelmed without XvMC, and even with it some 1080i content may be too much
[15:49] <williambrown0000> I Hit m.  Now what?
[15:51] <rhpot1991> is it color, monochrome?
[15:51] <rhpot1991> (the menu)
[15:51] <williambrown0000> color.  Green buttons when selected.
[15:51] <rhpot1991> XvMC is not running then
[15:51] <rhpot1991> readl the link I pasted
[15:52] <rhpot1991> also read this: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Playback_profiles
[15:52] <williambrown0000> OK.  Thanks.  I will follow the Nvidia directions.
[15:52] <williambrown0000> I have selected slim as my profile.  This made things a bit better.
[15:54] <williambrown0000> Thanks very much!
[15:54] <rhpot1991> you will need to mess with that to get XvMC in there after you activate it
[15:55] <williambrown0000> You mean that I will have to create a custom profile?
[15:56] <rhpot1991> cpu+ and cpu-- are the only ones that have XvMC by default
[15:57] <rhpot1991> so you will either need to use one of them or add XvMC to your slim profile
[15:58] <williambrown0000> OK.  Thanks again!  Do modern CPUs, dual cores require video hardware assist.  I will eventually build a silent media pc as a frontend, so then it will be relevant.
[15:58] <rhpot1991> I think the general rule is 3ghz is the minimum you should try unassisted HD with
[15:58] <rhpot1991> once you get into dual cores you should be pretty good
[16:00] <williambrown0000> Thanks, I appreciate the info.  There is a lot to wade through when you first bring mythtv up.
[17:45] <williambrown0000> rhpot1991: Video is much better!  I am getting audio stutters and "NVP: prebuffering pause" in the log.  Any hints?
[17:46] <williambrown0000> Oh, I am using CPU+ not a modified slim.
[18:23] <dsbw> So, yesterday, I was informed that mythtv could be used to passthrough an analog signal (as from a cable box or VCR) so that the signal could be viewed or recorded through Myth. But no indication of how (or where to find out how). Any thoughts?
[18:27] <tgm4883> dsbw, you would use a device such as the pvr-150
[18:27] <tgm4883> then use coax out (or svideo or composite) from the cable box to the pvr-150
[18:27] <tgm4883> then you would need an ir blaster to change the channel on the box
[18:27] <tgm4883> dsbw, do you have a digital cable box?
[18:28] <tgm4883> almost forgot, if you run trunk, and have an hdpvr, you can use that and component
[18:29] <tgm4883> in fact, thats basically what i'm doing, as I have directv
[19:22] <dsbw> I have a digital box, yes, I'm running a S-Video cable from the box to a Hauppauge 150. But I don't want to mess with channel changing; I just want to do a straight pass through, if possible.
[19:26] <tgm4883> dsbw, thats not possible
[19:32] <awilkins> Hi there ; what's the best way to build MythTV on a Mythbuntu box and install it without totally screwing up your existing install?
[19:56] <rhpot1991> awilkins: use another box or use virtualbox
[19:57] <awilkins> rhpot1991: I suppose what I mean is, how do I build it with the Mythbuntu customizations
[19:57] <rhpot1991> apt-get source mythtv?
[19:58] <awilkins> I'm no stranger to building MythTV, I was running trunk up until just before the Qt4 merge
[19:58] <rhpot1991> or check out the bzr branch?
[19:58] <awilkins> rhpot1991: I'm trying to find the bzr branch, there's this enormous list of them on the Mythbuntu project page on LP
[19:59] <awilkins> All I want to do is backmerge some trunk fixes relating to not-totally-wrong-seektables-on-DVB and build/install it
[19:59] <rhpot1991> awilkins: https://launchpad.net/mythtv
[19:59] <awilkins> Heh, my fault for looking at mythbuntu first
[20:49] <RealNitro> any lirc experts around?
[20:55]  * awilkins is not an expert but may have advice
[21:33] <awilkins> RealNitro: lirc?
[21:37] <RealNitro> awilkins: Linux Infrared Remote Control (I think)
[21:38] <awilkins> RealNitro: Yes, you were asking for help?
[21:38] <RealNitro> yeah
[21:38] <RealNitro> LIRC is something like my nemesis
[21:38] <RealNitro> years ago I got it to work on gentoo
[21:38] <awilkins> Sounds just like me :-)
[21:38] <RealNitro> one day it stopped working, since then it never did
[21:39] <RealNitro> I tested my remote using winlirc yesterday
[21:39] <RealNitro> and it still works
[21:39] <RealNitro> but on Linux I can't get it working
[21:39] <awilkins> Are you still on Gentoo? And what's your hardware?
[21:39] <RealNitro> (Pinnacle PCTV pro remote)
[21:40] <RealNitro> I'm on mythbuntu now
[21:40] <RealNitro> hardy
[21:40] <RealNitro> the remote comes with a serial port receiver and uses the pinsys driver
[21:41] <awilkins> My remote is rather different because it has a kernel event driver
[21:41] <awilkins> Uses dev/event
[21:41] <RealNitro> I wish mine did :)
[21:42] <RealNitro> I tested all inputs today using irw
[21:42] <RealNitro> it's not there :)
[21:42] <RealNitro> s/input/event input/
[21:42] <awilkins> Does your /etc/lircd.conf just say "include /usr/share/lirc/remotes/pinnacle_systems/lircd.conf/pctv" >
[21:43] <awilkins> ?>
[21:43] <awilkins> Do you have that file?
[21:43] <RealNitro> it did
[21:43] <RealNitro> and I copied the actual file over it :)
[21:44] <awilkins> I'm trying to work out where the right port gets set
[21:44] <RealNitro> ?
[21:44] <awilkins> Aha, how about /etc/lirc/hardware.conf ?
[21:45] <RealNitro> that's a custom file now
[21:46] <RealNitro> I have mostly been trying to run lircd with -n and --driver=... --device=... to get more feedback
[21:47] <awilkins> Hmmph, I suppose you've tried all the /dev/ttyS0, 1, 2, 3, etc
[21:48] <RealNitro> yep
[21:48] <RealNitro> the only one working is /dev/lirc0
[21:48] <awilkins> And are using the pinsys driver.
[21:48] <RealNitro> uhu
[21:48] <awilkins> Darn
[21:50] <RealNitro> I drives me so mad I've even brought the Linux device drivers book home from work to start learning how I can fix LIRC :p
[22:54] <dashs> What is required for "Fetch Channels from Listings source" do I need  to have subscribed to a aervice for this?, can I test watching tv without it?
[23:03] <brucedougal> can i have help please
[23:03] <brucedougal> http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/f79fcc8ec
[23:06] <brucedougal> anyone there that can help? / would like to help?
[23:09] <brucedougal> very new to ubuntu and linux doing ok setting pc up got drivers sorted (i think) got mythbuntu in as well thought i was doing ok then started to cofigure mythtv it all fell to bits
[23:14] <brucedougal> hi buntu that sounds like a name that should know some answers
[23:14] <buntu> Hi im new to mythbuntu .  I was playing around with the frontend and backend settings and now when i laund mythbuntu i get a light gray menu with only six options.  i no longer get the black menu with all of the options.  can somebody tell me what i did wrong? thanks
[23:15] <buntu> i think i chose wrong name then
[23:15] <brucedougal> lol
[23:15] <buntu> lol
[23:15] <buntu> im new to linux
[23:15] <brucedougal> oh ok never mind thought you wereb going to be my angle
[23:16] <brucedougal> angel even
[23:18] <brucedougal> iv only ever had grey menu with 6 options your the lucky one
[23:19] <buntu> when i first installed i got the black menu with all of the video card , theme , guide etc .  and now i get gray screen
[23:20] <Crelam> Greetings and Salutations.  I'm interested in building a MythBuntu box using one of those neat MSI Wind boxes.  I'm going to install the OS on a CF card and need to know what size card I should aquire.  How much space does the OS take up?
[23:25] <brucedougal> i used a fresh drive for my install nothing else on drive mythbuntu drivers etc no recordings etc have used 5.1 gb
[23:26] <hads> Interesting, I didn't expect it to be that big
[23:26] <brucedougal> but am no expert so that might be complete garbage
[23:27] <Crelam> One way or another, I should be safe with an 8 GB card then.
[23:27] <hads> Definitly
[23:27] <Crelam> As long as I don't have to buy a 16 GB.  Those things are expensive. ;)
[23:27] <brucedougal> i didnt think it would either was surprised when i looked
[23:28] <brucedougal> whats "cf"
[23:28] <Crelam> CF = Compact Flash
[23:28] <brucedougal> compact flash
[23:29] <brucedougal> yer yer just as i said it realised
[23:29] <brucedougal> you any help with linux or are you newbie?
[23:30] <Crelam> My Linux experience is very very limited.  Just to my Nokia Web Tablet.
[23:37] <Crelam> Thanks for the help folks.  Have a great evening.
[23:39] <brucedougal> any one here to help?
[23:46] <dashs> Worst user interface of all time