[00:12] LjL: surely there exists a subversion client written in php? [00:12] jrib: err, i guess so, but do you think that's what he's asking? [00:12] jrib: ... or are you just mocking me because PHP is involved? [00:13] LjL: the second one :) [00:13] hmpf. [00:13] anway [00:13] !info websvn | jrib [00:13] websvn (source: websvn): interface for subversion repositories written in PHP. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0-2 (intrepid), package size 181 kB, installed size 1116 kB [03:07] er [03:07] mute snuxoll in -ot? [03:07] __mikem called the ops in #ubuntu-offtopic (snuxoll) [03:07] cwillu called the ops in #ubuntu-offtopic () [07:20] wtf? [07:21] Hi jillsmitt, how can we help you? [07:22] Flannel: dunno, this channel is bew for me [07:22] i see it in first time [07:23] jillsmitt: You've been sent here because you're banned from the channel you were joining. [07:24] oh i see [07:24] you mean if i banned.. [07:24] cool [07:24] and u are ops [07:24] ok [07:24] and what next? [07:25] Do you understand why you were banned? [07:25] about something "troll" and about my opinion about enter-exit masseges percent [07:26] about anything else [07:26] jillsmitt: Because you were being disruptive. [07:26] and franky, rude. [07:26] but i am okay and i have not any reasons to unban [07:27] is this any judgment day&) [07:28] Well, I didn't ban you, and I'm not in charge of #kubuntu, so you'll have to speak to the people who are/did. But, in the meantime, you should read and understand the IRC guidelines, and our code of conduct: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines and http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct [07:30] oh thaks of course but i dont have much time to this "school-games" [07:30] just its a chance [07:30] to say that bazhang is idiot) [07:30] and i thank you for that chance [07:30] or chanse [07:31] can i go now? [07:32] jillsmitt: goodbye [07:32] #kubuntu was in autoconnect list) [07:52] hi to all [07:53] i am was banned because i am use other OS, and asked about group "users" in gentoo [07:55] polatov: This is the place for Ubuntu bans, which it seems you don't have any of. You should talk to the gentoo ops about bans in gentoo channels. [07:55] Flannel, i am banned on ubuntu channel [07:56] ubuntu-ru [07:56] polatov: Ah. LoCo channel bans are taken care of in #ubuntu-irc [11:25] uh am i banned permanently from #ubuntu?? [11:28] brb [11:28] @bansearch shadeslayer [11:28] Match: shadeslayer!n=quassel@unaffiliated/shadeslayer by Pici in #kubuntu on Mar 06 2009 18:33:20 (ID: 10670) [11:28] Match: *!*@unaffiliated/shadeslayer by LjL in #ubuntu on Mar 06 2009 17:53:58 (ID: 10669) [11:28] Match: shadeslayer!n=quassel@unaffiliated/shadeslayer by LjL in #ubuntu-ops on Mar 06 2009 17:51:36 (ID: 10667) [11:29] quite a collection [11:29] XD [11:30] LjL said that i had 3 [11:30] reports against me [11:30] @bansearch sh4d3sl4y3r [11:30] shadeslayer, is that humorous? [11:30] Match: sh4d3sl4y3r!*@* by LjL in #ubuntu-ops on Mar 06 2009 23:30:01 (ID: 10678) [11:30] no [11:30] :( [11:30] uh the last one is not me [11:31] shadeslayer, also go by the nick rohan sometimes? [11:31] umm some one registered it [11:31] he abused me too [11:31] rohan that is [11:31] im not him [11:32] not really an answer though [11:32] well i used rohan when i started to use ubuntu about 2 months ago [11:32] bazhang, he also goes by urgreat, imgreat [11:33] then shifted to shadeslayer, [11:33] elky, nice catch [11:33] uh no [11:33] I wonder if their IP's match [11:33] well i think thats why i got banned too [11:33] what ? [11:33] shadeslayer: why do you think you got banned [11:33] because my IP and his IP matched [11:34] bazhang, the nick shadeslayer has also been guilty of flooding, swearing, giving out bad/dangerous advice [11:34] shadeslayer, you got a cloak to get around that ban? [11:34] shadeslayer!n=rohan@unaffiliated/shadeslayer is a previous ident too [11:34] shadeslayer: so you use the name rohan and you use the same ip too [11:34] :O [11:34] nooo [11:34] shadeslayer: wow - thats a pretty big co-incidence [11:34] wait ill explain [11:34] elky, of that I am well aware [11:34] * ikonia walks off from futher time wasting [11:34] ikonia: i know,my ISP recently changed everything [11:34] bazhang, i know you know. i'm just making sure rohan knows. [11:34] shadeslayer, you are clearly not telling the truth here. [11:35] ill explain more clearly [11:35] shadeslayer, so someone else got your ip, and your old nick somehow? [11:35] a cousin or a roommate? [11:35] i registered my nick [11:35] bazhang, that's the oldest excuse in the book [11:35] shadeslayer, this new cloak was to evade a ban? [11:35] when i realised some one was using my nick [11:36] no [11:36] shadeslayer: so someone was using the same nick and the sme ip as you - wow [11:36] my roomie mp [11:36] ahhh [11:36] there we go [11:36] roommate - of course [11:36] so i registered the nick shadeslayer to me [11:37] I'm shocked to find untruths being told here. [11:37] shadeslayer, and gave them the password? [11:37] and left rohan about 2 months ago [11:37] this is a waste of time telling lies [11:37] my roomie most probably registered rohan [11:37] shadeslayer: then go and thank him for getting you banned [11:38] shadeslayer, one final question; when you logged in as urgreat the other day, was it you had forgotten that you were banned with that IP? [11:38] shadeslayer, take a look at this line: shadeslayer!n=rohan@unaffiliated/shadeslayer [11:38] well i will [11:38] that is 'rohan' using the IDENTIFIED nick shadeslayer [11:38] yeah my name is rohan [11:38] he was using my name as a nick against me [11:38] shadeslayer: stop wasting our time [11:38] shadeslayer: seriously - this is pointless [11:39] ok i told you the truth [11:39] shadeslayer: you get a lot further if you just get straight with people [11:39] he is acting the same way in #kubuntu as well [11:39] i am telling the truth [11:39] ? [11:39] not banned there afaik [11:39] shadeslayer, we're discussing the behaviour that's happened under this nick -- shadeslayer -- while it has been identified [11:39] yes and?? [11:39] shadeslayer, so unless you now give out your password... [11:39] i did not give out my pass [11:40] i was logged in and he used my pC [11:40] QED you are lying. [11:40] shadeslayer, then you are the exact same person who did the wrong things, and you cannot blame it on anyone [11:40] i forgot to lock the screen [11:40] so will i or will i not get unbanned?? [11:40] not at this point. [11:40] nope [11:40] any point in the future? [11:41] depends on when you decide to be honest. [11:41] i am being honest [11:41] no, you're not [11:41] what do you think?? [11:41] sh4d3sl4y3r <--and this nick as well [11:41] no ways [11:41] thats not me [11:42] its the exact same name basically. [11:42] and a very unusual one at that. [11:42] i can gurantee that imgreat,urgreat and that nick are not mine [11:42] all these 'coincidences' you are talking about are simply a fiction. [11:42] you must trust me [11:43] that day is gone. [11:43] please those nicks are not mine [11:43] all 3 of them are not mine [11:43] regardless your behaviour with this nick is not acceptable [11:44] ok now with shadeslayer what did i do?? [11:44] and that goes for any other #ubuntu channels as well [11:46] if you need to ask then you are clearly not ready to join [11:46] it would be best to be honest as a first step. [11:46] i dont think i did any thing with shadeslayer [11:46] flooding, swearing, giving out bad advice. [11:46] flooding and swearing?? [11:47] shadeslayer, you think the main channels are some kind of offtopic fun chatground [11:47] no i do not [11:47] you act that way. [11:47] only on #defocus [11:47] and i am sorry if you felt so [11:47] you persist in wildly offtopic non-support type questions [11:48] look im soory if you felt that i was indulging in flooding and swearing [11:48] but i did not mean to do so [11:48] like how to get your computer LEDs to act as a download meter or some such; there are a number of instances as well, all followed with short bursts of laughing, emoticons, and other very offtopic behaviour [11:49] well where do i ask such questions then [11:49] ubuntuforums.org [11:49] flooding is what you do every single time you are in any of the ubuntu channels [11:49] i thought i would get better answers here [11:50] bazhang,the persistent enters?? [11:50] shadeslayer, not only that. [11:50] then?? [11:50] scroll up ^^ I just said [11:50] shadeslayer, you really need to learn better behaviour in general if you're wanting to start a LUG, too [11:51] actually i started one [11:51] shadeslayer, essentially you make the channels unusable for others [11:51] look im really sorry [11:51] what can i do to make it up?? [11:51] others more so. [11:52] you cant make it up. [11:52] you need to learn some basic impulse control and how to behave in ubuntu support channels. [11:52] i wont do anything to disturb the channels now [11:52] making up isn't what we're looking for [11:52] shadeslayer, you started a LUG in the space of 7 days? only 7 days ago you were using the words 'going to start a lug' [11:52] ok i will learn self control [11:53] elky: yeah the head of the department liked the idea [11:53] its not a short time thing. [11:53] well its only 3 members as of noe [11:53] *now [11:53] that's not a lug yet [11:53] right now i have permissions to start putting up notices [11:53] respecting others rights to use the shared resource that is the ubuntu channels, staying focused and completely on topic and first and foremost being honest. [11:54] small LUG [11:54] ok i will be [11:54] None of which you have even come close to [11:54] just give me one more chance [11:54] like now for instance. [11:54] i will behave more appropriately [11:54] just a day or so ago in #kubuntu you were acting the EXACT same way. [11:55] like asking for a two button boot?? [11:55] i actually found that [11:55] not the point, no. [11:55] ok i get it,weird questions out [11:56] the constant flooding and wildly offtopic behaviour. [11:56] shadeslayer: youknew all this anyway - I've spoken to you in private about it [11:56] will never happen again [11:56] ? [11:56] like adding XD to every thing you say, laughing, giving out very bad advice, the list goes on. [11:56] ikonia, let me guess, not a single mention of the phantom room mate? [11:57] i agree i made some mistakes,but if you dont give me a chance to reform,how will i reform [11:57] nope [11:57] honestly at this point it seems identical to trolling. [11:57] shadeslayer, also, stop trying to evade the bans. that's a breach of freenode terms of service. [11:57] im not trying to evade bans [11:58] sh4d3sl4y3r!*@* [11:58] being dishonest, wildly offtopic, taking over the channel with smiley after every two word burst of laughter/enter [11:58] i dont even know how to evade bans,else i would have been in #ubuntu by now [11:58] shadeslayer: on the 26th of Fedb - I kicked you out of ubuntu - you asked why and I spoke to you in detail about it [11:58] shadeslayer: do you remember that conversation [11:58] elky: as i told you thats not me [11:58] ikonia: very well [11:58] shadeslayer: so if you remember that conversation, why are we having to explain it again [11:59] ikonia: because you have to give me a chance to rform [11:59] *reform [11:59] shadeslayer: yes, and you've not [11:59] shadeslayer: you're still fdoing the same things [11:59] i did not get a chance [11:59] shadeslayer: you have [11:59] shadeslayer, you've had plenty of chances since then to reform, and youve not. [12:00] when?? since 26th feb i have been banned [12:00] shadeslayer: I didn't ban you on the 26th [12:00] shadeslayer: you rejoined the channel on the 26th [12:00] more lies [12:00] one sec [12:01] on the 2nd, 3rd, 6th and today. at least one of those times involved you discussing the lug and installfests you wanted to start. [12:02] on an offtopic channel [12:02] #ubuntu-offtopic [12:02] shadeslayer, I have had to remove you as well on more than one occasion [12:02] bazhang: uh no,i havent been kicked from any of your channels [12:03] it was you who was doing all this, and not some mysterious third party, without a doubt. [12:03] no [12:03] shadeslayer: if your deadly serious about wanting back in - I suggest you take some time away from the ubuntu channels - maybe a week or so and come back with a fresh perspective [12:03] look i dont think were getting anywhere [12:03] shadeslayer, a day or so ago in #kubuntu? [12:03] i know we're not getting anywhere. [12:03] we havent been getting anywhere since you started lying to us. [12:04] uh i was experiencing problems with my ISP,i wasnt here 2 days ago [12:04] if he does not, and continues in #kubuntu as before [12:04] look i ll keep a low profile for the next week [12:04] shadeslayer, that is simply false. [12:04] no [12:04] bye shadeslayer [12:05] shadeslayer: all honesty, take a week away from teh ubuntu channels, re-asses how you approach it and come back and chat to us [12:05] ok bye,since no one seems intrested to unban me [12:05] +s [12:05] ok [12:05] shadeslayer: a different perspective may help [12:05] a mountain 'o lies [12:06] I know it was as I spent 30 minuts explaineing to him about behaviour in ubuntu [12:06] and he was in #kubuntu a day or so ago in the exact same manner. [12:07] not even very good lies. [12:07] nope, I suggest he take a week out and he's straight into #kubuntu [12:07] ahh just left [12:08] just a fyi , the alternate sh4d3sl4yer nick was in #debian a while ago discussing how bad ubuntu was, wanting to troll the channels, and other bits of nastiness [12:08] and he join #suse [12:09] ikonia, you must be either omniscient or in every linux distro channel [12:14] meh. [12:14] * Pici just finished reading scrollback [12:14] morning Pici [12:15] (good) morning ikonia [12:16] shadeslayer_ is now known as maddy__ [12:17] and he's just quit [12:17] * shadeslayer_ (n=quassel@122.163.113.172 [12:17] dropped the cloak to ban evade I gather [12:17] or his ISP had another big change second in three days. [12:18] in #ubuntu [12:19] worst. disguise. evah [12:19] mady123 kicked form ubuntu, 30 seconds after discussion in here [12:19] freenode staff time [12:19] persistant ban dodger [12:19] using cloak to hide [12:19] he said he had no idea how to ban evade just a short while ago [12:19] we all know that's a joke and he's just proved it [12:20] yep [12:20] so the other nick sh4d3slsyer is him as well, without question [12:20] totally [12:28] ikonia, you have his ip address on highlight/watch? [12:28] yup [12:29] aha [12:29] no wonder you're so omniscient [12:34] * #winapi n=insanoid 122.163.133.115 irc.freenode.net insanoid H :0 Karthikeya [12:34] * * n=arjunjai 122.163.135.6 irc.freenode.net master12345 H :0 purple [12:34] those are the only other two from 122.163 [12:34] i think we can safely ban that subnet [12:36] @mark shadeslayer for easy finding when he next comes to plead innocence [12:36] The operation succeeded. [12:42] I have to find this nifty track the user IP feature in xchat [12:42] pounce? [12:42] I need to find a way to get the geoip.pl to work in my irssi [12:42] hehe [12:43] I am talking stone age Myrtti is talking 22nd century [12:43] I've got the perl module and the c module, but I don't know how to make the script look for the perl module where it is [12:43] I have it working, but my setup is normal and I know next to nothing about perl. [12:44] I had to compile the c bindings and the perl module to my $HOME... [13:10] hmm clarks is gizmo [13:13] dux0r_, hi how may we help you [13:14] howcome i cant join #ubuntu ? === Amaranth_ is now known as Amaranth [13:14] @login [13:14] The operation succeeded. [13:14] @bansearch dux0r_ [13:14] Match: *!?=dux0r@*!#ubuntu-ops by LjL in #ubuntu on Mar 06 2009 02:32:28 (ID: 10650) [13:14] Match: *!*@77-100-214-8.cable.ubr03.livi.blueyonder.co.uk!#ubuntu-ops by LjL in #ubuntu on Mar 06 2009 02:32:17 (ID: 10649) [13:14] ? [13:15] 2009-03-06T02:31:48 *** dux0r has quit IRC ("EAT MY FUCKIN JEW RAT CUNT SHIT YOU FUAKCAN RETARD. UNLESS UR NICOLE THEN HIYA HOW ARE YOU, WANNA COME OVER N GET SOME POPCOR) [13:15] whoa [13:15] yeah, my sentiments exactly [13:15] wow... [13:15] haha, is that me? [13:15] dux0r_: "gee, I wonder why" [13:16] not sure why thats my quit message ^_o [13:16] oh well, is it cool to ask ubuntu questions in here [13:16] ? [13:17] nope, this channel is not for support [13:17] aight [13:17] no. [13:17] Er.. [13:17] all he had to do was change the message [13:19] uh [13:20] he tried to join #ubuntu again [13:20] Yes. [13:24] next time he comes in he has to prove he's changed it [13:24] i wonder who nicole is [13:25] has charming friends [13:41] mother of god [13:41] panarchy is claiming he is a black hat hacker for hire now in ##windows-server [13:41] he's really stepped up a level [13:48] ikonia: How many channels are you in?! [13:49] many many mant [13:49] many [13:49] * genii sips [13:49] not regular active in all of them, some just for "reading" [13:50] eg: I'm folloing fedora-ds development, but I don't know enough about it to contribute [13:50] but it does make interesting reading [13:54] shadeslayer back online insists it wasn't him changing nicks to mandy123 etc [13:55] heh [13:56] why is there no staff around today ??? [13:57] Professional Development Day ? [13:58] genii: seriously ? [13:58] genii: I don't know if that's a real thing ? [13:58] happy women's day! [13:58] ikonia: Heh... here (in Canada) the teachers get those days on occasion. But on IRC I dunno [14:06] christal seems to be on the job now, so all good [14:13] el [14:14] el ? [14:14] el capitano ? [14:14] christel [14:14] ahh [14:14] oops [14:14] :) [14:14] el christel ? [14:15] la christel [14:15] [14:25] 14:24 <+FloodBot1> -WARNING: ljjjl_!ljl@93-32-58-32.ip32.fastwebnet.it may be evading the ban on cw]n]hyr!n=ljl@93-32-58-32.ip32.fastwebnet.it [14:25] really ??? [14:26] nah [14:26] I AM NOT! [14:26] ban ban ban [14:26] but the bot is right [14:26] that fellow is using my IP [14:26] LjjjL_: let me guess, it was your roo mate ? [14:26] room [14:26] nope [14:26] LjjjL_: or your sister [14:26] how dare he [14:26] nope, neither [14:27] my ISP NATs our IPs [14:27] nah, I think it was your roommate [14:27] (also, why is LjjjL taken) [14:27] thats the easy answer [14:27] ikonia: lies. it was my brotha [14:27] no but seriously [14:27] you're using LjjjL [14:27] i was logged in as LjjjL yesterday [14:27] * Pici hrms [14:27] that's why it's taken [14:27] it can+t not have timed out yet [14:28] ikonia: yeah but i'm not *really* using it [14:28] nice gramma [14:28] i stopped using it like 12 hours ago [14:28] +r [14:28] whoaaa [14:28] LjjjL_: I can kick it :) [14:28] You can't k-line it though [14:28] ikonia: nah, it should be identified [14:28] i'll kill it [14:28] Pici: shame ;) === LjjjL_ is now known as LjjjL [14:29] there he goes [14:29] you hoped it was a faker didn't you [14:29] a little [14:30] really, they should tweak the timeouts a bit [14:30] once i've had a user remain connected for *three* days, without timing out [14:30] mine normally time out after about 12 minutes if I get disconnected [14:30] * genii sips [14:30] ikonia: it depends which channeels you're in [14:30] ikonia: if you're in #ubuntu, it'll go "sendq exceeded" pretty quick [14:30] but if you're in no channels, then it can virtually stay on forever [14:30] LjjjL: but you're client was also in #ubuntu [14:31] really? hmm [14:31] ooh wait. [14:31] * LjjjL hides in shame [14:31] ha ha ha [14:31] it was your brother ? [14:31] i apparently quadruple-kicked on the xchat icon [14:32] silly [14:33] those magnificent Italiano fingers in overdrive [14:34] ikonia: i don't have a taskbar on the eeepc, i won't easily notice an application is open twice [14:34] ikonia: also, it's not my fault at all. my parents made me stupid. [14:34] ha [14:40] LjjjL: The floodbots are fuzzy today, do they need a shave? [14:57] * genii grabs a to-go cup of coffee before /away [14:59] * Gary steals it === thunderstruck is now known as gnomefreak [15:39] stdin: ping [16:27] !ohmy [16:27] Please remember that all Ubuntu IRC channels share the same attitude of providing friendly and polite interaction with all users of all ages and cultures. Basically, this means no foul language and no abuse towards others. [16:27] !-ohmy [16:27] ohmy has no aliases - added by Spec on 2006-07-28 00:11:42 - last edited by Myrtti on 2009-03-05 09:31:41 [17:33] hi [17:34] hello Seeker` [17:36] jussi01: stdin can you clear a ubottu session please [17:36] my paste function just borked [17:36] I've just pasted a session ide [17:37] id [17:37] or anyone who's got acces to the ubottu server reall [17:37] really [17:37] ughhhh my keyboard/session is messed up, I suspect that's why my clipboard screwed [17:37] apologies [17:52] ikonia: didn't relogin clear last one? [17:53] I don't know [17:53] I can try [17:54] re-logged in to try [17:54] certainly wouldn't hurt for someone with ubottu access to clear the session log [17:54] my fault, my hands are up in the air with apologies [17:59] imo it wouldn't be bad idea if it would require openid login... [18:00] or something [18:00] but this is again one of those suggestions that it's easy to make since I can't code it myself [18:00] Myrtti: let me know when you've wrote the module [18:00] ikonia: ^ [18:00] :-( [18:00] I know [18:08] I'm not sure if the python-cgi based page is powerful enough to support openid without making drastic changes [18:09] I think we should make the move off of sqlite, or else we'll end up having the same problem [18:10] if it would have openid support then it would be possible to login to that darn thing when you have no irc [18:10] which would be nice [18:13] Pici: I spoke to jussi about that at the weekend I'd been doing work to do a test port to mysql [18:14] I did it once before, I dont think I have that code anymore though [18:14] Pici: you can verify my code then :) [18:15] Pici: never speak before thinking - you offered your services by default [18:15] ;) [18:17] meh. [18:27] hello another_guy [18:27] another_guy: How can we help you today? [18:28] @bansearch another_guy [18:28] No matches found for another_guy!n=balzac@pool-72-89-205-237.nycmny.east.verizon.net in any channel [18:29] well, I'm here to ask for my username to be un-banned [18:29] balzac [18:29] another_guy: From what channel? [18:29] ubuntu and ubuntu-offtopic [18:30] and here as well, why not? [18:30] I'm not such a bad guy [18:30] just a teeny bit less sensitive than most [18:30] One moment. [18:31] thanks [18:33] another_guy: if you know you are banned from ubuntu why are you ban dodging in there now [18:33] I don't see any bans for you. [18:34] how else would i get back in? Plus i upgraded to jaunty jackelope and i needed a bit of advice [18:34] @bansearch balzac [18:34] Match: balzac!n=balzac@173-45-238-81.slicehost.net by LjL in #ubuntu-offtopic on Mar 08 2009 22:04:10 (ID: 10768) [18:34] Match: *!*@173-45-238-81.slicehost.net by LjL in #ubuntu on Mar 08 2009 21:46:58 (ID: 10763) [18:34] Pici: ^ [18:34] jussi01: I have a pending bug report for that, its matching @marks [18:36] another_guy: Why should we unban you? [18:37] Seeing as how you've knowlingly evaded a ban that we set... [18:37] well, because it's good not too be too strict or testy when you're the ops [18:38] also, it's good to be open-minded to critics [18:38] especially friendly critics [18:38] another_guy: it would be nice if you obeyed the rules too [18:40] ok, but it should really be about when someone is committed to not obeying the rules. you have discretion to tolerate rule-breaking and you should, until you know it's done in bad faith, or it's really a problem. [18:40] you've just said you dodged a ban on purpose, how is that good faith ? [18:40] I think it's a little bit more efficient and impersonal than it needs to be right now. [18:40] so I break rules a little bit, not a lot. [18:41] another_guy: instead of telling us the rules, start following them please. [18:41] ikonia: because, nobody really has ultimate power. we choose to comply. [18:41] it is tolerated to an extent; People are given warnings and given an opportunity to change their behaviour [18:41] anybody can get another nick and evade bans. we all know that. [18:41] but here I am, asking to be let in. [18:41] if they still don't comply, they get banned [18:41] another_guy: no - you got in anyway [18:42] another_guy: no-one said anything about ultimate power, just respect the rules of the channels you're in and you won't have a problem [18:42] well, i need to get back to work [18:42] it's that simple [18:42] another_guy: ok - bye [18:43] i'll stick around if you don't mind [18:43] I just have to get back to work [18:43] another_guy: please don't idle in this channel [18:43] please unban me before I go [18:43] I don't think that will be happening. [18:43] no [18:44] ok. can you tell me if this channel is logged and where I can get access to logs? [18:44] !logs [18:44] Official channel logs can be found at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ - For LoCo channels, http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/ [18:44] I'll have to re-read our conversation yesterday before I can decide. [18:44] And yes. [18:44] thanks [18:44] before you decide what? [18:44] Decide what? [18:45] that's for #ubuntu-ops [18:45] well, I need to look at it to see if I'm right [18:45] right about what? [18:45] I don't think I'm beyond reproach, so I want to mull it over [18:45] about what I said yesterday [18:45] what aspect of what you said yesterday? [18:45] I won't know until I read it again === Mez_ is now known as Mez [18:46] alright, ttyl [18:48] @mark another_guy balzac [18:48] The operation succeeded. [18:57] there is a good chance that balzac is "curtis" with a new nick, he's started pm'ing me saying "do you know me" and asking a few questions that are similar to the user curtis [18:57] maybe not - he's using irsii, not curtis [18:58] did I ? /last ikonia [19:14] is there a password projeted pastebin that you know of [19:14] I know elky uses one [19:16] ikonia: pastebin.ca [19:17] nalioth: ooh really, I missed the option then [19:17] thanks [19:20] http://www.pastebin.ca/Bbag9Dy3 [19:20] so that you aware of the follow on [19:44] fyi, for people asking about connecting to ICQ with Pidgin: bug 340075 [19:44] Launchpad bug 340075 in pidgin "Cannot connect to ICQ ("The client version you are using is too old.") (2009-03-09)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/340075 [20:19] someone needs a better connection [20:23] nalioth: Pricey around? [20:24] could you do something about ^ again? [20:34] :) === ursula_ is now known as Ursinha [22:03] ikonia: ping [22:27] FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) [22:27] FloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) [22:40] am I being thick or blind [22:40] but I can't see *WHO* did it [22:44] woo, look at that [22:44] it didn't print at all with my irssi [22:46] Myrtti: wha, irssi filters out your exploits? [22:46] isn't it trying to get a bit *too* smart now? :P [22:46] I have no idea [22:46] [00:27] ~~~p-master [n=p-master@ip68-4-36-146.pv.oc.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [22:46] [00:27] * p-master says Ubuntu is the worst distro. [22:46] [00:27] ~~~p-master [n=p-master@ip68-4-36-146.pv.oc.cox.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] [22:46] that's what I get with lastlog [22:47] AHHA [22:47] it's in the statuswindow [22:47] nevermind [22:47] I'm blind [22:47] * Myrtti goes back to work [22:47] Myrtti: have some carrots [22:47] I'm just tired [22:47] that's all [22:47] then have some coffee [22:47] or maybe not [22:49] i feel caffeinated myself today even though i'm not [22:49] work at midnight is crazed [22:49] developed a roll of film, perhaps that's the tension of it all [22:49] nickrud: well this was supposed to be done by Christmas [22:49] resulting in crazy behavior (see author for perfect example) [22:50] well if it's this late late night work won't make it ready for Christmas [22:51] perhaps next christmas [22:51] but it will make it ready for tomorrow or perhaps at latest monday [22:51] which is when I'll be FLYING! [22:51] and screw with tomorrow. 'Trust Me', it's a never ending downward spiral. [22:52] yeah, and then we'll have to put up with you being all nervous and irritable because you haven't slept [22:52] you don't think of us, you! [22:52] what's with this english attraction? All the good speakers were English I think [22:52] *at scale [22:53] nickrud: love [22:53] ah, that explains everything. Good on you! [22:54] http://www.flickr.com/photos/myrtti/3328510787/ :-) [22:55] let me quess, his time zone on the small clock? ;) [22:55] very much so :-) [22:56] and the countdown is currently 7d EXACT [22:56] wowee [22:56] love is so cute :) [22:56] oh, not yet actually [22:56] * nickrud takes his curmudgeonly self off before he gets in trouble [22:56] 7d, 53min [23:07] hello. I'm having difficulties joining the ubuntu channel, I've tried the steps from #ubuntu-read-topic channel [23:11] I got fixed. thank you [23:12] * LjL wonders which part of "are you using your usual nickname?" doesn't hint boldly enough to the fact that you should be using your nickname for the test... [23:13] hints are for geeks; direct verbal confrontation is better for instructions [23:14] nickrud: i have to admit that it's a bit wicked - the bot asks you to change to your usual nickname, but when you're in -read-topic you *cannot* change your nickname to begin with... (+m) [23:15] ah, that might be worth mentioning [23:15] nickrud: well, freenode does automatically tell you "Cannot send to channel, so cannot change nicknames" [23:16] nickrud: though i do wonder why you think you should be changing your nickname from what you were using a minute before - before you were exploited - in the first place [23:16] "If you're using a nickname other than what you were using in #ubuntu, you'll have to leave this channel and change your nickname to that". Don't expect them to think, many don't have the background to think correctly about irc yet [23:17] or whatever the right instructions would be. [23:17] nickrud: well in any case there's instructions on how to join this channel if they aren't sure what to do [23:18] which he did, after all [23:18] yep. [23:19] nickrud: specifically it says, "dronix|help: Sorry, but I am unable to test you (are you using your usual nickname?). Please contact the operators (type « /topic » to find out how)." [23:19] the topic being "Your router is buggy 1) Please follow these instructions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixDCCExploit to FIX it (yes, it can be fixed) 2) after carrying out those instructions please type « test me » and wait few minutes | if this fails, type « /join #ubuntu-ops » to be tested manually" [23:20] s/usual nickname/nickname you were using when exploited/ ? [23:21] nickrud: i could consider that i suppose. for that matter, i think i could also do something to add a hint like "perhaps your nickname was xyz?" [23:21] that address one point, I"m sure you've seen many other misinterpretations/evidence of brain death [23:21] nickrud: also, you'd be amazed how many people actually type << test me >> trying to replicate the guillemots. [23:21] though the bots can parse that anyway [23:22] ah, that's what they're called, guillemots. [23:23] nickrud: i guess you could just call them french quotes too [23:23] nickrud: or freedom quotes :P [23:23] ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww [23:23] I'm not nalioth, I'm pro socialism ;) [23:24] nickrud: heck you could call them italian quotes if you like, we use them too [23:24] (although they aren't on the keyboard, but then neither is È, and we use that) [23:24] euro-trash characters? [23:25] nickrud: just accents. we have all of à, è, é, ì, ò, ó, ù (although most people can't give a damn about the difference between è/é and ò/ó) [23:26] nickrud: thing is, the verb "is" is "è" in italian. and it's often used at the beginning of a sentence. [23:26] nickrud: so in practice, you can't type an italian sentence starting with "is" on an *italian* keyboard. [23:26] rflol [23:27] That is freaking hilarious, it really is. [23:27] nickrud: most people just type E' [23:27] nickrud: Word auto-corrects that into È [23:27] nickrud: the italian uncyclopedia has an article about it [23:28] nickrud: it starts with repeating a dozen of times the sentence "Just type Alt+0200" [23:28] keyboards driving the language. That is just stupid [23:28] nickrud: you mean stupid like the Microsoft grammar checker setting grammar standards? [23:29] yep. I ignore those squiggly green things. [23:29] nickrud: you do know there is no such thing as a passive verbform in neither italian or english? [23:29] lies, all lies [23:29] nickrud: uh, you sound a bit uneducated. why would you repeat the same word "lies" twice in the same phrase? use a synonym. [23:29] nickrud: like microsoft. [23:30] EMPhasis is legal, F##K ms geeks. They can't write for S##T. See, I can curse also [23:31] nickrud: anyway i use a swedish keyboard layout. not only does it allow me to type swedish, but it also lets me type any italian sentence, unlike the italian keyboard. [23:31] nickrud: i can SHOUT with accents. i mean, that's important. [23:32] CIAO A TUTTI, È VERO CHE UBUNTU FA SCHIFO?????!!!!! [23:32] I use a british layout as it is the only sensible one :P [23:32] Seeker`: pfff [23:32] anything with the Euro is pansy anyway [23:32] Seeker`: and english is the only sensible language, and the continent doesn't really exist, and you'll sneak out one night and cut the tunnel in half. [23:33] * nickrud wonders if LjL is channeling an english Rush [23:33] nickrud: at least anything with the Euro isn't entirely devoid of economical value - unlike the pound or the dollar. [23:33] LjL: what continent? [23:33] not to mention the icelandic krona. [23:33] Seeker`: i'm not really sure tbh. [23:34] gah, it's close to quitting time, got to close out the day. [23:34] LjL: ehrm [23:34] Nafallo: yes? [23:34] Nafallo: i said icelandic :) [23:34] Eurasia. This breaking at the Urals is foolish. There's N/S America, Australia, Antarctica, Eurasia, Africa, and England [23:34] króna :-P [23:34] didn't know they've stolen words! [23:35] nickrud: oh right, America is two separate continents, N and S, but Eurasia is one [23:35] bastards. [23:35] Nafallo: says the one who writes swedish without accents [23:35] to the enormous pissing off of, for instance, myself [23:35] LjL: yea. just didn't know about ISK :-) [23:36] Nafallo: stolen words, please... you all call it a krona, iceland sweden norway and menzaland [23:36] LjL, a point now that the suez exists [23:36] menzaland? :-) [23:36] Nafallo: besides, it's just a "crown", it really doesn't sound like you scandies had much imagination on currency names [23:36] denmark? [23:36] Nafallo: oh, yes i guess i meant denmark. [23:37] nickrud: ok, so Eurasia it is. at least you'll find it harder to say "eurasiatrash" [23:37] nickrud: when we're talking about america on the other hand, we just say "trash". you know, a bit like we call Dante "the poet". [23:37] ljl, I'd never say that about europeans, just the funny looking letters some use [23:38] nickrud: wħåt fúņņý ł€tt€rß? [23:38] I think I'd through Shakespeare as The Poet. At least he's still read outside of academia ;) [23:38] s/through/throw/ [23:39] nickrud: every country has its own "the Poet" i'd guess. [23:39] yep. [23:39] nickrud: also, i can assure you that virtually every italian has read Dante. [23:39] except america, I think. [23:39] nickrud: not that they wanted to, they just had to. [23:39] As have I (read Dante, and outside of class :) [23:40] nickrud: still, at least it's WAY more found than The Betrothed (the other "obligatory" italian classic for italians) [23:40] s/found/fun/ [23:40] Whitman, maybe but he's a little gay for many yet [23:43] Nafallo: although i guess perhaps menzaland calls it krone anyway [23:44] Nafallo: in practice something more resembling "ccchrrrrünnng" in sound. [23:44] hahaha! [23:45] they like to clear their throats, probably took it from their neighbors the dutch. [23:45] whose reason for clearing their throats is pretty clear - you know, smoke being bad for your health. [23:45] (which country have i not insulted yet? i've forgot to keep a list) [23:46] LjL: india [23:46] Nafallo: no wait, i meant countries deserving to be insulted [23:47] italy i have not insulted, but then again saying that the italian keyboard doesn't have italian letters imho speaks for itself [23:47] :-) [23:50] Germany? [23:50] and no one ever seems to insult Andorra [23:52] nickrud: Ach, yes, you are very correctly right, I have completely and inexcusably forgot to properly and accurately describe and insult Germany. Such Deed is really unjustifiable from my person. [23:52] nickrud: Andorra? they had a nice punk song at Eurovision. can't really insult them. [23:53] oh, the dryness of your wit LjL :) [23:53] gotta go, see you later [23:53] bye [23:56] now, let's talk about mandolins. and pizza, who wants some pizza? [23:56] jrib: YOU USE THE GUILLEMOTS TOO! [23:57] dirty ripoff. [23:58] I'll change them to smilies [23:58] you have to excuse me today, i think i'm high on natural insanity. [23:58] wait, did i say today? [23:58] I believe so, yes [23:58] I'm going to go have some authentic italian food for dinner [23:58] from lilly's gourmet pasta [23:58] pizza? where's pizza? [23:58] I've never seen lilly though [23:58] jrib: spagetti bolognAIse with ketch-up? [23:59] yes~! [23:59] actually the very best pasta i ever ate was... in greece [23:59] although it might have been just my imagination, as i was so desperate for food i liked. [23:59] but no, not really, i had another pasta the previous day and it was awful