[00:01] is PulseAudio support significantly improved in jaunty? [00:03] swegner: there's supposed to be a dedicated #liveusb tried? [00:03] oh, I wasn't aware-- I'll check there, thanks [00:03] swegner: oh, that one seems to be empty [00:04] do you think this is a jaunty-specific change, or not? [00:04] I can't remember what the intrepid live USB was like [00:05] swegner: I have no idea, never tried it, sorry [00:05] hmm.. ok. I'll check in #ubuntu and see if somebody might have an answer [00:21] anyone happen to know how to disable nautilus from managing the desktop, disabling it thru gconf-editor like i used to do floods the taskbar with msgboxs. Is this a bug? === Unksi_ is now known as Unksi [00:36] should I update to 9.04? [00:43] anyone have the lowdown on compiz at the moment? [00:43] i updated jaunty with the latest updates and it seems to be broken [00:44] it looks like the compiz packages are being reorganized? [01:07] jwulf|eee: looks like libcompizconfig is missing [01:09] jwulf|eee: because it's in dependency wait [01:10] I'm guessing the problem is that protobuf (which is a new library used by libcompizconfig to cache metadata parsing) is in universe [01:12] hrm, that can't be good [01:12] apparently it's been approved [01:13] and will move once something depends on it in main (ie libcompizconfig :>) [01:21] crdlb: looks like that was fixed. the next fix should hit the main mirror soon [01:28] hey guys i have got some major problems going on with module-init-tools in jaunty [01:29] Hobbsee: is there a delay before that shows up on launchpad? [01:29] some weird dependency stuff just came through... apparently, compiz is to be removed, which seems wrong [01:29] crdlb: the binaries will be on LP [01:30] kazagistar: known problem, fix on it's way [01:30] Hobbsee: coolio, I suspected as much, thanks [01:32] is there any bug reports on module-init-tools? [01:32] module-init-tools (3.7~pre7-1) [01:32] i tried to reinstall it but its returning a status 1 error [01:41] lounge: there is already an update in to module-init-tools (3.7~pre7-2) [01:41] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/jaunty [01:51] im trying to find out why its not configuring [01:52] okay im gonna try to boot into jaunty now [01:59] oh yeah, bootchart has changed to not have the chart generator... but the separate genarator package, pybootchart, doesn't exist. [02:13] I just upgraded to 9.04 and i have no window manager, its set to unknown ;| [02:14] unknown in what? [02:14] Um... the latest round of updates wants me to remove a bunch of compiz componets, what should I do? [02:14] ripps: wait [02:14] or use update-manager :) [02:14] (which won't remove things) [02:15] hmm [02:15] hi all [02:15] crdlb: update manager wants to do a partial update, but it wants to remove a couple compiz components. Just ignore it for now? [02:15] i changed appearances and now if i go to system>preferences>windows it says compiz hasn't registered a configuration tool [02:15] when is jaunty coming out [02:16] before windows did not appear in toolbar at the bottom, and no title bar on them now they appear but still no title bar [02:16] ZeZu: hmm, if you _just_ upgraded, you may have been bitten by the current compiz packaging problem [02:16] just use metacity for now [02:16] how do i switch ? [02:16] yeh im with meticity [02:16] appearance, set it to None [02:17] ah yes that fixes it [02:17] What are we going to do about flashplayer [02:17] okay got module-init-tools under control but now another problem and that is jaunty is unable to find any active network devices [02:17] i can connect to the dsl modem [02:17] can't* [02:18] i was just about to inquire about flashplayer it seems to be removed as well ;) [02:18] and how i can help, i am a developer, but i dont know where to start [02:18] flash nonfree is there [02:18] maybe it just removed it for me ;| [02:18] it might as wellnot be thou [02:18] and i'm on x64 [02:19] im on 64 [02:20] 80% cpu on you tube and pulseaudio is a bi*** [02:20] what causes that ? [02:20] alpha? [02:21] But i have always had an issue with pulse [02:21] i prefer jack [02:23] hmm its the firefox plugin that it removed or smth [02:23] flash nonfree is installed but no plugin === Slartibartfast is now known as Guest22530 [02:24] you don't need a plug in [02:26] ZeZu close firefox install flash then start firefox, done [02:40] timo, i did install with it off, it seems like it works but not for youtube [02:40] and my screensaver decided it wouldn't turn off from keyboard input [02:40] so then came a reboot [02:41] hmm it even locks up the screensaver prefs. window [02:42] Hi people with nvidia cards and the 180.35 driver. DO you also have troubles with loging out, restarting and shutting down? [02:43] <|ns|nR8> no Slartibartfast [02:43] hey guys...anyone able to help me get rid of that dammed, pam message before I can log into my wifi (via auto-login) [02:43] which message, eternal_p ? [02:44] asks for my password to unlock the keyring before my wifi would connect [02:44] any way i can change default screensaver without the UI ? [02:44] hmmm ... here i see noshuttiong down the desktop ... and when trying to shutdown again the whole desktop freezes :-( [02:44] eternal_p, you need to set the keyring passphrase to nulls (since you auto-login) [02:44] hggdh: how? :) [02:45] <|ns|nR8> Slartibartfast, the alpha is buggy crap...if you want stability use a stable version [02:45] |ns|nR8: yes yes ... i know [02:45] eternal_p, Applications/Accessories/Passwords and Encryption keys; your keyring passphrase is your original login passphrase [02:45] just wanted to know if there are more people with the same problem [02:46] Slartibartfast, I do not have it [02:46] hggdh: thanks, I'll check that on reboot [02:46] strange [02:47] my last quesiton..when I switch to another workspace, I lose all my icons/panels, etc. all I can do is reboot to get it back [02:47] Slartibartfast: 180.35 has some known bugs [02:48] eternal_p, this is weird. I do not have it either -- but I do not run composite. Do you? [02:48] a little bird told me to come here with discussion related to 9.04 [02:48] anyone found a workaround for bug 304871? [02:48] Launchpad bug 304871 in xserver-xorg-video-intel "[i845G] Fatal server error: Couldn't bind memory for BO front buffer (Jaunty)" [Unknown,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/304871 [02:48] has anyone qa'd the evolution-mapi support for exchange in 9.04 alphas yet? [02:48] hggdh: no idea :) [02:48] heh [02:48] Is it possible / (for me) recommended to go back to the 177 driver? [02:48] eternal_p, do you run compiz? [02:48] well there is a new compiz in the updates, but it is not fully updated yet [02:49] yup [02:49] Slartibartfast: hopefully, the 180.37 driver will be added soon [02:49] hmm someone already posted this as bug 338087, but i dont see any solution [02:49] Launchpad bug 338087 in xorg "Jaunty screensaver locks up X, doesn't work" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/338087 [02:49] im having a flash error in ubuntu 9.04 alpha. can this be fixed yet? [02:49] crdlb: Where can i find more information about that? [02:49] Slartibartfast: nvnews? [02:50] well, I think C-A-BS has been disabled [02:50] hggdh: its not responsive to anything [02:50] crdlb: ok ok will check it out [02:50] im having a flash error in ubuntu 9.04 alpha. can this be fixed yet? [02:50] so screensaver effectively locks machine up [02:50] have to reboot [02:50] pretty bad bug [02:50] yes [02:50] zaccour: is the flashplugin in synaptic [02:51] in 9.04 [02:51] ZeZu: remember, this is an alpha release [02:51] i know, i'm actually looking and where i might be able to pitch in [02:51] thiebaude, i installed flash via browser and add/remove. im gonna check synaptic brb [02:51] zaccour: ok [02:52] just disabled the screensaver for now [02:52] guys, I tried to install jaunty, but the install failed [02:53] zeldarocks: how did it fail? [02:53] thiebaude, flash plugin non free is installed in synaptic [02:53] maybe its just an alpha thing i have to wait out [02:53] it asked me to select y or n near the end and it apparently froze right there\ [02:53] zaccour: uninstall and re-install [02:53] zeldarocks: you have an intel card [02:53] i tried that already, not in synaptic though [02:53] no, nvidia [02:54] zeldarocks: ok [02:55] I had like 14 minutes left of the install and then it asked me something (can't remember what though) and when I tried to press y and enter, it wouldn't respond [02:55] zeldarocks: did you burn your cd? [02:56] no doing it through my ubuntu install [02:56] thropugh internet [02:58] apparently my internet connection stopped working or something during install, and then as soon as the install exited, not having been completed BTW, the IRC client connected again [02:59] then I try to restart, and I get a message about my grapgics configuration and 'ubuntu running in low graphics mode' [02:59] flash uninstall/reinstall did not work [02:59] do i have to just wait till the 26th and try beta? [03:00] hello? [03:00] <|ns|nR8> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseSchedule [03:01] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=994922, zaccour [03:01] try that and see what happens [03:02] hello? [03:02] i just purged flashplugin-nonfree and reinstalled and it works for hulu now [03:02] help [03:02] thiebaude, ill check that out thanks [03:02] zaccour: yw [03:03] please help me [03:04] HELLO [03:05] please [03:05] handy thing to replace ctrl-alt-backspace until you re-enable it: alt-sysrq-k. Super-kills everything on current TTY, which in this case, would be Xorg. [03:05] thiebaude, i did the command in the terminal and it said could not find it [03:05] * zeldarocks gets ready to leave [03:06] * zeldarocks begs [03:06] zeldarocks: you never explicitly asked an answerable question. [03:06] Consider rephrasing it. [03:07] my install apparently crashed, I was asked to press Y or N with about 15 minutes left in the install process, I'm attempting the install again, what do I press? [03:08] It'd help to know what the question it was asking you was. [03:10] I don't remember, it was something about a default, or somnething. if it helps, the options it gava me were: 'y/I' for yes, I think "D/N" for no [03:10] Hmm, was it an upgrade, or a fresh install? [03:10] upgrade [03:11] Ah, probably about replacing a config file. [03:11] The thing to do there is to hit 'd' to see the differences, and if you've never customized it yourself, then hit 'y' to replace. [03:11] ok [03:11] that was it [03:11] The times you'd want to keep the local version are only when you'd manually chaanged something. [03:12] also, what if it doesn't respond? [03:12] Samba config file is one exception: defined shares get trampled on when replacing the file -- you'd either have to keep local version, or re-set the shares. [03:13] That's only for system shares, not per-user shares. [03:13] zaccour: what's the issue that you experienced with Flash? [03:13] can anyone recommend a different distro? [03:13] oh yeah, I want to reboot for a minute... will be back. [03:14] dtchen, all i see is black boxes where flash stuff should be [03:14] zaccour: (WRT different distro - depends on your usage patterns and operating environment requirements) [03:14] zaccour: ia32 or amd64? [03:14] zaccour: an ubuntu LTS [03:15] 32 [03:15] dell mini 9 [03:15] whoa youtube videos work though [03:15] zaccour: are you using flashplugin-nonfree or adobe-flashplugin? [03:15] nonfree [03:16] both actually [03:16] uhh [03:16] you should deinstall one of them [03:16] zaccour: delete the adobe one [03:16] search adobe in synaptic? [03:17] yes [03:17] or `sudo apt-get --purge remove adobe-flashplugin' [03:17] although i don't necessarily recommend removing that in favour of flashplugin-nonfree for other reasons [03:17] i only see flash nonfree in synaptic [03:18] zaccour: there isn't an adobe flash option on the adobe web site [03:18] yes [03:18] there is [03:18] no, use the one in the Canonical partner repository [03:19] i have flash nonfree [03:19] what's the output from `dpkg -l flashplugin-nonfree adobe-flashplugin|grep ^ii' ? [03:20] what's the difference between the two? [03:20] i think i might just use another distro until the final release comes out [03:20] what distros are best suited for dell mini? [03:21] there's always intrepid? [03:21] zaccour: did you try 8.10? [03:21] or hardy, gutsy, or dapper [03:21] lol [03:21] yes, but when i installed the first set of updates my wired internet stopped working [03:21] zaccour: I'd go with 8.04 personally. most stuff works out of the box === Cycom_ is now known as Cycom [03:21] Cycom_: i agree, the LTS should be more stable [03:22] crdlb: adobe-flashplugin is the official Adobe Flash plugin for ia32 distributed by Canonical in its partner repository [03:22] zaccour: you will have to run one set of updates, but your wired ethernet will continue to work, and your wireless will start working. [03:22] zaccour: you have to do some tweaks for the audio, but they are well documented. [03:22] dtchen: but the binary is the same, isn't it? [03:22] my wired internet stopped working after the first set of updates [03:22] * crdlb is currently using swfdec anyway [03:22] crdlb: flashplugin-nonfree is a community-maintained download wrapper & installer for the official Adobe Flash plugin. It only downloads and installs the 32-bit version regardless whether you're using ia32 or amd64, since nspluginwrapper is used for both. [03:23] is gOS good? i cant find a download iso on their site [03:23] speaking of audio, my adventure into +1 land is due to an audio problem on 9.04. I have an hp mini 1030nr, and it has no audio output. It's a STAC 92xx. Worked in 8.04 and 8.10 with snd-hda-intel model=ref, but now? zilch. [03:23] I see, thanks :) [03:24] Cycom: run the alsa-info.sh script and tell me the url it generates [03:24] no more checksum errors when adobe updates the unversioned that way, too, I guess [03:24] 9.04 has alot of problems with intel products [03:24] dtchen: will do. [03:24] dtchen: where is the script located? [03:25] http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh [03:25] not preinstalled on the system, right? [03:25] no [03:25] we won't be installing it as part of alsa-base until we've audited it [03:26] dtchen: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=28a999536fb912ab60acecdb42efd0ef33823cd6 [03:26] the interesting part is that audio INPUT works. [03:26] i think im just gonna try gOS and try jaunty beta when it comes out [03:26] my mic is picked up, I just don't get sound output. [03:27] sec, need to `git pull' [03:28] interesting, a Mini 1000? [03:29] first, you need to remove the model=auto quirk [03:29] i'll see if our kernel source supports that particular model [03:30] dtchen: yeah, a 1030nr [03:30] dtchen: bear in mind that before I needed model=ref to get working mic input, but otherwise sound worked ootb. However, it WAS supported in 8.04 and 8.10. [03:31] Cycom: no, it only happened to be "supported" because the quirk used happened to twiddle the correct init verbs [03:32] ahh... [03:32] Cycom: the correct quirk in jaunty's kernel is actually "hp-m4" [03:32] i recommend you remove the model=auto quirk you've added [03:32] then reboot and see if the bios correctly initialises the codec [03:32] if it doesn't, try using model=hp-m4 [03:33] ok. give me about 2 minutes. [03:36] odd... PA 0.9.15 refuses to do zeroconf discovery. [03:36] W: module-tunnel.c: Stream died. [03:36] dtchen: no dice without any model quirk. All volumes seem at normal levels, but there is still no sound. [03:36] and E: protocol-native.c: protocol error, kicking client [03:36] dtchen: do you want another alsa-info.sh? [03:37] Cycom: yes [03:37] and I: module.c: Unloading "module-tunnel-sink" [03:38] is gOS good? [03:38] dtchen: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=6927abacec55171f9f75ab87a6c46baff3cd168e [03:38] dtchen: I'll try the model=hp-m4 next, but I'll wait till you see the alsa-info output [03:39] * DanaG wishes the mute hotkey on his laptop would collaborate with ALSA. [03:39] Right now it just does its own thing, in hardware. [03:40] mine does get hijacked by the software volume control [03:40] which is a tiny bit annoying since it turns it from a "mute" button to a "toggle mute" button [03:41] my bug report: [03:41] http://www.scribd.com/doc/4855506/HP-EliteBook-2530p [03:41] er [03:41] wrong link [03:41] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/284319 [03:41] I always know ubuntu would move off of launchpad one day [03:41] Ubuntu bug 284319 in linux "mute, brightness buttons on new HP 6930p laptop" [Undecided,New] [03:42] Cycom: are you using PulseAudio or direct ALSA? [03:42] Check out my description of my mute key. [03:42] pulseaudio, dtchen [03:42] dtchen: however, manually setting it to direct alsa in sound manager for output has had no effect so far [03:42] hey guys, i'm just wondering what the status of the intel X4500 chipset and DRI2 is in jaunty. Is this usable for testing purpooses ? I need to test Jaunty for some bug reports but I last time it tried it was X (even without compiz/composite) was just too slow to allow me to spend much time testing it. [03:42] oh yeah, why does vbox setup do a find | grep at every boot? [03:43] it takes 1.5 seconds out of a now 28-second boot. [03:43] Cycom: right, you need to check that your user is in the audio group if you use ALSA directly instead of PulseAudio [03:43] www.csc.calpoly.edu/~dgoyette/bootchart/ [03:43] PulseAudio uses consolekit to determine which user has privileges to access the sound device [03:49] dtchen: I added myself to audio, and set my sound preferences for "ALSA" under playback, but the test still outputs no sound. [03:50] if I set it for HDA Intel STAC92xx Analog (ALSA) i get audiotestsrc wave=wine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresamble ! gconfaudiosink: Could not open audio device for playback. [03:50] should I try model=hp-m4 now/ [03:51] Cycom: did you log out and back in after adding your user to @audio ? [03:52] yes. groups shows me in audio as well. [03:52] output from groups: mark adm dialout cdrom audio plugdev lpadmin admin sambashare [03:52] what happens with `pasuspender -- aplay -Dplughw:0 /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav' ? [03:53] dtchen: nothing. [03:53] it says "Playing WAVE" etc. etc., but no sound. [03:54] Cycom: meaning it hangs or meaning it is inaudible but completes? === bluesmoke is now known as Amaranth [03:54] the latter. [03:54] it's inaudible, but completes. [03:54] btw, thanks for all your help dtchen [03:55] Cycom: use `list-sinks' in pacmd, please [03:57] dtchen: http://paste.ubuntu.com/129071/ [03:58] Cycom: ok, please use `killall pulseaudio ; pulseaudio -vvv' [03:58] dtchen: will I need to sudo the killall, or will it work as a standard user? [03:58] (yes, it's intentional to not daemonise, and there will be much verboseness) [03:58] unprivileged user [03:58] do you get a cow if you use any more -v's? [03:59] crdlb: as in `apt-get moo'? [03:59] try with aptitude. [03:59] more aptitude, but yes [03:59] no, you don't. i could add it, i suppose. [03:59] dtchen: output going to pastebin [04:00] dtchen: http://paste.ubuntu.com/129074/ [04:01] huh [04:01] what's the output from `apt-cache policy pulseaudio|grep Installed' ? [04:02] dtchen: Installed: 0.9.14-0ubuntu10 [04:02] Okay, you know that volume notifier when you use the volume keys on your keyboard? It always stops working after I change my icon theme anywhere but Human. D: [04:03] err, that's not the newest PA revision [04:03] please update to ubuntu11, please [04:03] dtchen: doing it now. [04:03] I didn't see the update icon, so I just assumed... [04:04] dtchen: as soon as you asked what version was installed, I wend "uh oh..." [04:04] HAHA! dtchen 77 updates. [04:04] dtchen: you watch mythbusters? I just heard Adam go "Well THERE'S your PROBLEM." in my head. [04:05] * DanaG is on the 0.9.15 PPA. [04:05] Has handy features, but the network stuff is broken. [04:05] i'm more interested in seeing whether it's a necessary linux quirk update or a pa issue [04:05] One interesting feature of my sound card, that PA happens to not take advantage of: my ADI1988 card can capture from two different sources, simultaneously. [04:05] if best buy sells 1030nrs, i can pop into one tomorrow and test [04:05] ... independently. [04:05] dtchen: you bet they do :) [04:05] 1030nrs? [04:06] what's that? [04:06] DanaG: HP Mini 1030NR [04:06] guys, I'm at 43 minutes till install finishes [04:06] ah. [04:06] Speaking of which, have you seen their glassy-bleu theme? [04:06] who, HPs? [04:06] yeah. [04:06] -_- [04:07] http://users.csc.calpoly.edu/~dgoyette/screenshot-glassybleu.png [04:07] yeah. their version of ubuntu is very pretty, though it has very few packages in its repo [04:07] at least, in the MIE or whever it's called edition. [04:08] hardy-hpmini. [04:08] DanaG: I wonder if it gets that funky thing with compiz where it looks like the title bar is tearing slightly from the window that I get with dark themese [04:08] They do interesting things with the gdm theme, too -- nonstandard checkbox element. [04:08] themes* [04:09] And they make it so you have to list all modules you want loaded, manually, instead of using modprobe aliases. That's how they boot so fast. [04:09] dtchen: I'd be interested to see if this works on my mini 9. [04:09] I installed a netbook-remix in a vm, then added their repos. They also disable the themes and wallpapers tabs. [04:09] If you add just the source repos, you can build the packages for other architectures. [04:09] where can I get that theme? [04:10] dtchen: I'm not sure if you're actually going to buy a mini 1030nr, but if you do, don't forget to look under all the packaging for the USB flash drive they include. It's one of those tiny flat ones. They put it in a special caddy so that it fits into a hole on the right side. [04:10] it's in a small zip-lock bag. [04:11] thank goodness I saved the box for a week [04:11] Cycom: nah, i just go in and boot off a daily-live [04:11] dtchen: make sure you put it on a flash drive, not a CD :) [04:11] oh yeah, they have posted their recovery image now. [04:11] yeah, i have one [04:11] i've been doing this for years [04:11] It will only deploy to a USB drive, though -- can't do it from CD. [04:12] What's the battery life like under Ubuntu on those? [04:12] dtchen: I figured, but I've learned that sometimes it helps to state something, even if you think it's obvious. [04:12] DanaG: three-ish hours. [04:12] DanaG: not spectacular, but still more than enough for my needs. [04:13] cool. [04:13] the one odd thing about them is the webcam. for some reason they designed it for "outdoor use", which means that they put a filter darker than my sunglasses over the camera. [04:13] I already have my EliteBook, though. The next thing I'd get wouldn't be a netbook... it'd be an Intel SSD. [04:13] a little work with a swiss army knife toothpick got the screen bezel off, and a bit more with some tweezers and a knife got that peeled off. [04:13] And honestly, other brand netbooks may be better values than the HP one, afer all. [04:13] dtchen: updates finished. rebooting again. back in a flash. [04:14] s/value/deal/ [04:16] ugh, stupid completely-broken notifications: [04:16] ** (notify-osd:8724): CRITICAL **: load_icon: assertion `info' failed [04:16] ** (notify-osd:8724): WARNING **: bubble_recalc_size(): WARNING, no layout!!! [04:16] ** (notify-osd:8724): WARNING **: WARNING: No layout defined!!! [04:16] dtchen: rebooted. still no sound. [04:16] I was really hoping there... :) [04:17] Here's my laptop: http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=4631 [04:18] Though I actually specifically opted for ATI, because I know I like to use development versions, and I'd rather have good open-source than sucky open-source drivers. [04:19] DanaG: I have a Dell E1505, and I have an ATI X1400 and an NVidia GeForce Go 7300 for it. I have the nvidia in it because the nvidia driver works the best out of all. [04:19] dtchen: what next? should I try model=hp-m4? [04:20] Ah, you bought both cards? Interesting. [04:20] Cycom: ok, thanks. have you tried isolating the jack changes? i.e., cold boot with headphones inserted [04:20] I could also buy the Quadro alongside mine, but I'm just dealing with the ATI. [04:20] dtchen: not yet. want me to do that first? [04:20] Cycom: there should be no need to add the quirk manually; it's already in patch_sigmatel.c for your SSID [04:21] Cycom: yes, please [04:21] ok. will reboot with headphones in. [04:23] dtchen: heaphones in, I HAVE SOUND! [04:23] however, the speakers do not work with them out. [04:24] DanaG, I'm almost to the Y/N section, what do I look for when pressing D? [04:24] One thing to check: which config file is it asking about? [04:24] Cycom: excellent, so it was as i suspected, a jack regression [04:24] And then check for any specific options you might have set. [04:24] Cycom: after i fix the bluetooth pairing issues for PA, i'll be looking at the jack regressions from 8.10 [04:24] I just had something fail: VirtaulBox kernel module" Fail... [04:25] so - it's in my TODO [04:25] * DanaG wonders why virtualbox does a find | grep in the boot cycle. [04:25] Adds 1.5 seconds to boot. [04:25] dtchen: is there any workaround in the mean time, or do I just wait? [04:25] http://www.csc.calpoly.edu/~dgoyette/bootchart/ [04:25] Cycom: you could continue to use 8.10 ;-) [04:25] wha to do about the kernel? [04:26] dtchen: not really. it was not running well on this little guy. [04:26] dtchen: I'd rather have no sound and less crashing. [04:26] the differencesa thing showed up, what exactly do I look for? [04:26] oh yeah, bluetooth audio in linux has never ever worked for me. [04:27] Cycom: the new jack API is wonky; you may need to plug and unplug headphones to register one actual jack event [04:27] Dana? [04:27] oh, what file is it, for one? [04:27] I can't make out the stuff [04:28] replace or not? [04:28] hmm, what package is it in? [04:28]