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TheMusopgraner: Have you managed to try the patch I attached to bug 331589 yet?01:49
ubot3Malone bug 331589 in alsa-utils "system beep in jaunty is the most annoying sound known to man" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/33158901:49
Yasumotohey guys, I'm trying to build a vanilla kernel (from the git repo) using make-kpkg, and seem to be running into issues running make http://paste.ubuntu.com/129064 03:32
YasumotoShould I be applying ubuntu-specific patches for this? I'm not sure if this is a typically supported method of compiling03:33
dtchenYasumoto: see CONCURRENCY_LEVEL03:39
dtchen(in the appropriate man page version at http://manpages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search.py?cx=003883529982892832976%3A5zl6o8w6f0s&cof=FORID%3A9&ie=UTF-8&q=make-kpkg&titles=Title)03:39
Yasumotodtchen: will do, thank03:40
Yasumoto*thanks03:40
Yasumotooh wow, I set it to N by not reading https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/GitKernelBuild03:42
Yasumotodtchen: thank you03:42
YasumotoI think I assumed N=no or something03:42
foxbuntuHi all. I am working on a few dev issues surrounding MythTV on the Mythbuntu project and one is HDMI audio on my ALC1200, I am curious if someone can enlighten me why alsa 1.0.19 can't be included for 9.04 release? (asking nicely please dont take offense, I really dont know the reasons)04:55
dtchenTheMuso: looks like http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/tiwai/sound-2.6.git;a=commitdiff;h=ed3da3d9a0ef13c6fe1414ec73c9c1be12747b62 is worth looking over04:56
TheMusodtchen: thanks looking04:56
dtchenfoxbuntu: 1) are you positive the enablement patch(es) can't be backported? 2) Alsa-kernel generally requires a corresponding bump in userland [Alsa-lib].04:57
TheMusodtchen: hrm thats a big diff. I think we will have to put a good argument to get it in.04:57
dtchenTheMuso: yeah, i'm not positive it's a winner yet, but i'll test it locally this week. it's not as vital given we've disabled glitch-free in PA by default.04:58
foxbuntudtchen, I have not looked at the patches being back-ported yet, I was just curious from the kernel standpoint why it isn't going to be done04:58
TheMusodtchen: right04:58
dtchen(anyhoo, Z -> work)04:59
foxbuntudtchen, the 1.0.18 in A5 + patches does not work with my ALC1200 however 1.0.19 does, thats why I was asking04:59
JanCfoxbuntu: we're in version freeze, so new versions must bring clear advantages and (almost) no disadvantages (that's why)05:11
foxbuntuJanC, well, thats a pretty clear reason right?05:11
foxbuntu:)05:11
foxbuntuso back-ports it is05:12
foxbuntuthanks guys05:12
JanCfoxbuntu: extra hardware works = advantage, but can you prove no disadvantage (like breaking other hardware) ?  ツ05:12
foxbuntuJanC, at this point, no I need the extra hardware to test on, and/or spend some time looking at the patches05:28
apwfoxbuntu, generally because if we can keep the kernel the same as upstream we gain advantages when fixes come along, and from the testing that was and is being done on that kernel as a unit, plus there are kernel/userspace dependancies to keep in sync which are not necesasrily possible09:05
apwthe more delta we carry the more work it is for us rather than the general kernel community to carry09:06
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rihamhi all , anybody here with experience in Kernel AIO .. I have been trying to work it out using libaio but I dont get enhancement in performance 11:45
rihamhi all , anybody here with experience in Kernel AIO .. I have been trying to work it out using libaio but I dont get enhancement in performance12:43
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cjhey all.  bryce recommended that I report suspend/resume issues here.  anyone want to have a crack at it?  I'm dist-upgrading to jaunty now, but it didn't work in intrepid.17:34
cjhttp://rafb.net/p/2Q6UwD92.html17:37
Keybukmjg59: I notice a 10s boot speed difference between the "ondemand" and "performance" scaling governors17:44
Keybukmjg59: is this to be expected?17:44
cjKeybuk: which way?  performance 10s less?17:47
Keybukin the obvious way17:47
anubhav Keybuk:what are the available freq's for the cpu?17:49
Keybukanubhav: 1600000, 1333000, 1067000, 80000017:50
anubhavimo most of the boot time is due to IO i can't see a connection,but maybe bootchart can be helpful17:52
Keybukyes, thankyou17:53
KeybukI'm past all that and now at the "err, Matthew" stage of debugging17:53
Keybuk:p17:53
johanbrFor some reason, the ondemand governor is really slow to trigger for me in recent kernels. Even when compiling, it goes back and forth between highest and lowest frequencies.17:54
johanbrMaybe that's what's happening to you too?17:55
anubhavin that case the stats would also help17:56
Keybukwhat stats would you like?17:57
anubhavcpufreq/stats17:57
Keybukdo you know much about the cpu frequency scaling part of the kernel?17:57
Keybukie. can you fix the problem?17:59
anubhavwrote a driver once17:59
anubhavjohanbr:maybe you can tweak the "up_threshold" parameter within "/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/ondemand"18:30
johanbranubhav: sure, I'll try that, thanks18:38
johanbrinitial stats: http://pastebin.ca/135753818:38
johanbrstats an hour or so later, just after compiling a program: http://pastebin.ca/135753918:38
anubhavwhats the current "up_threshold"18:40
johanbr9518:41
anubhavohh18:41
anubhavno wonder18:41
johanbrthat's not good?18:41
anubhavtry 3018:41
johanbrI'll give that a try. Thanks again. :)18:42
mjg59Keybuk: No, not in the slightest18:49
mjg59Keybuk: For certain workloads you'll see reduced io throughput with ondemand, but not significant18:50
Omegamoonanyone here with experience with the sharp zaurus?19:48
OmegamoonI'm trying to get the 2.6.28 kernel working for some time now on spitz19:49
OmegamoonI finally got the device to suspend when pressing the on/off key19:49
Omegamoonbut it won't resume after doing a suspend, no matter what I do19:50
OmegamoonI have to do a hard reset to get the device back to life19:50
Omegamoonany clues?19:51
anubhavOmegamoon: can you get a console on the device19:56
Omegamoonanubhav: yes, no problem19:57
Omegamoon99% works just fine, only suspend/resume has problem(s)19:57
anubhav Omegamoon: are you using some distro?19:58
Omegamoonubuntu jaunty19:58
anubhavso you can check the kernel logs and get some hints19:59
OmegamoonI'll check again... one moment20:01
Omegamoonanubhav: last line is "apm-power: Requesting system suspend"20:10
anubhavOmegamoon: whats the output of " cat /sys/power/state"20:17
Omegamoonanubhav: mem20:19
anubhavon the device do you have a serial console?20:20
Omegamoonyes I do20:20
anubhavare you sure that the device suspends successfully ?20:22
Omegamoonehm, how can I check, it turns off20:24
anubhavsome devices have blinking LEDs 20:24
Omegamoonthe zaurus has leds, but they aren't used for that kind of things20:25
anubhavalso on the serial console you can check the output of "echo  mem > /sys/power/state "20:25
anubhavdo you get some messages on the console after issuiing that command?20:26
Omegamoonno, unfortunately not20:29
anubhavdoes it go to sleep after that command?20:30
Omegamoonyes, it does20:30
anubhavunfortunately its like permanent sleep :)20:31
Omegamoonbut after that it's dead, no resume :-(20:31
Omegamoonverrrry sleepy, like me actually :-)20:31
* Omegamoon is resetting the zaurus again20:32
anubhavcan you try "echo 7 > /proc/sys/kernel/printk" before  "echo  mem > /sys/power/state "20:33
Omegamoonrebooting, 1 moment20:39
Omegamoonanubhav: zaurus is dead again, have to reset, reboot and check the kernel log20:44
anubhavOmegamoon:Chk this http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/Kernel/2009-02/msg09570.html21:00
Omegamoonanubhav: the 'echo 7...' doesn't show up anything21:01
* Omegamoon is checking the link21:02
Omegamoonanubhav: I saw that one earlier. It has a follow-up too (http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/Kernel/2009-02/msg09934.html)21:05
anubhavOmegamoon: so it seems that with newer kernel suspend got broken21:06
Omegamoonanubhav: yeah, there was a huge clean-up21:11
anubhavOmegamoon: after suspend does it wake up if you insert the charger?21:12
Omegamoonanubhav: believe me, back-porting is not a good plan21:13
anubhavOmegamoon: suspend/wakeup stuff is difficult to debug.21:14
Omegamoonanubhav: it doesn't wake up when inserting the charger21:15
anubhavOmegamoon: i think you should get in touch with Pavel and find out if he is looking  into this issue.21:16
Omegamoonanubhav: I'll do that21:19
Omegamoonanubhav: thanks for your help, I have to go now21:19
anubhavOmegamoon: sure :)21:20
bdmurrayrtg: http://qa.ubuntu.com/reports/bug-fixing/canonical-kernel-team-jaunty-fixes-report.html22:28
loolDoes someone know whether the lpia kernel config was changed similarly to the i386/amd64 ones for cpufreq modules?22:52
lool(I'd like to drop powernowd from the mid seed)22:52
loolThe same changes were done, great23:03

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