[00:01] Can you create a RAID1 Software mirror in Linux/MDADM after installing? Or do I have to do it in the installer? [00:02] short answer: yes [00:03] this can be done after install [00:03] oh_noes: it is probably not something that an inexperienced admin should attempt. At least, not while drunk. [00:03] or even when sober :-) [00:04] I've done it a couple of times and it's straightforward, but I have a lot of experience with md. [00:04] Like resizing a filesystem, the important thing is to do the steps in the right order [00:04] the installer makes it easy, but the experience of doing it by hand in invaluble when something breaks and you need to fix it quickly. [00:05] You'll also need to take the server down to do it [00:05] olcafo: it's just not as straightforward to create an md on the disk you're using as / ;-) [00:05] twb, that depends on if we're talking about making an RAID on the system partition or not. [00:06] Nafallo, right [00:08] olcafo: if by "system" you mean "root", then yes. [00:09] sorry, my lingo is not quite nix. I work on to many different OSes. [00:10] If I want to use FakeRAID, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto [00:11] but this article doesnt explain how to do it for Ubuntu Server 8.04 without the LiveCD [00:11] how do I activate dmraid? [00:31] oh_noes: you really don't want to use fakeraid. You either want software raid, or in unusual cases, hardware raid. [00:31] I know what I want to use :) [00:32] i'm doing some performance testing here at work, and Im interested to do some analyzsis between the two [00:32] software raid is better than fakeraid because you can put the drives in any linux system and still read the data. [00:32] oh_noes: oh, OK. [00:32] oh_noes: well if it's proper fakeraid the kernel should just see one disk :-) [00:38] what would you recommend ?? : apache + ( fastcgi | scgi | fcgid ) ??? [00:39] leonel: depends on what the app supports [00:47] leonel: and you could replace apache for other httpds too... [00:49] JanC: I'm with cherokee now and it's working great I just have a server with apache and I cant move yet to cherokee .. [00:50] twb: Right .. [02:27] can someoen help me with ufw? [02:28] !anyone [02:28] A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? [02:29] on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuFirewall under package integration that is for onlu ubuntu 8.1 right? [02:29] *8.10 [02:30] yes AFAIK [02:31] That seems to be what it says. [02:31] afaik = as far as i know? [02:31] just double checking i am tired [02:31] thewrath: yes [02:31] is it hard to upgrade server 8.04 to 8.1? [02:31] and ufw had some significant changes in 8.10 [02:31] thank you JanC [02:32] i see that and i like them [02:32] Seems stupid to me to call it "Apache" when "getent services 80" gives a perfectly meaningful "www". [02:32] especially with the app part [02:32] Whats the default behaviour for mdadm if it loses a disk? [02:32] what ist eh command that i use to upgrade ubuntu from 8.04 to 8.1 [02:32] oh_noes: it marks that node in the array as degraded [02:32] twb: it's fine with apache, but do you know all the ports samba needs ? ;) [02:32] Does it email anyone, does it set the front disk of the server to red status ? [02:33] JanC: then samba ought to register those ports [02:33] and how many people are using 8.1 server [02:33] JanC: so they end up listed in /etc/services [02:33] oh_noes: IIRC it generates an email, probably for root. [02:33] does 8.1 server have the smae issue with the 8.1 desktop wtih wireless wpa2 enterprise encryption [02:33] twb: they are, but their names might not always be what you expect [02:33] oh_noes: I don't know anything about the "front of the disk". [02:34] JanC: well, for example I'd prefer it to say "submission" and "smtp" to "postfix" for both. [02:34] twb: well servers have hot swappable disks at the front, everyone in ubuntu says to use MDADM software RAId instead of my hardware raid [02:34] what ist eh command that i use to upgrade ubuntu from 8.04 to 8.1\ [02:35] and how many people are using 8.1 server [02:35] oh_noes: that depends whether it's real raid or fake raid. [02:35] does 8.1 server have the smae issue with the 8.1 desktop wtih wireless wpa2 enterprise encryption [02:35] twb: well samba is based on a collection of legacy MS protocols that you probably don't want to know the names of ;) [02:35] my hardware raid, if it detects a dead disk, it'll mark it as red/amber (like a normal servers), then i can replace it and it'll auto resync [02:35] JanC: I know what CIFS and SMB and NTLM are... [02:35] JanC: I dunno if AD has a "kerberos" port per se. [02:35] anyone know the answers to my questons? [02:35] jw bc i am going to bed here soon [02:35] if I hotswap a degraded disk, will it auto rebuild it? [02:35] oh_noes: no [02:36] oh_noes: at least, I'm pretty sure it doesn't [02:36] twb: "you don't know" is the reason for ufw giving them an alias [02:36] That's extremely handy isnt it! [02:36] JanC: grumble [02:37] well i guess i will ask tomorrow [02:37] gn everything [02:37] JanC: as I see it, using ufw is a means by which I can write complex iptables-restore scripts, but still allow ignorant end users to do "ufw allow from " [02:37] So let me get this straight, ubuntu recommend running software raid over FakeRAID, even though software RAID a) doesn't change the warning lights on the servers, and secondly, it won't even rebuild it automatically if it's hotswapped/replaced? [02:38] oh_noes: if you have hot-swappable drives, you probably don't have fakeraid [02:38] twb: ignorant end-users don't have the power to do that on your systems (I hope)? ;) [02:38] oh_noes: you probably have proper hardware raid [02:38] JanC: the end users own the system [02:39] twb: then why does ubuntu install lists all my inidividual disks in the isntaller? Even though I configured a system RAID1 mirror, and a data RAID10? [02:39] JanC: i.e. the company that contracts me to babysit their server [02:39] oh_noes: is this an IBM serveraid box? [02:39] ah, babysitting is always fun ツ [02:40] Not IBM, it's a different vendor, but basically, yes. [02:40] Yeah, they're... exciting. [02:40] IIRC you need a special driver to make the kernel see a single disk [02:41] We ended up using software raid and forgetting about the hotswap feature because it was too much pissing about [02:41] YMMV, etc. [02:41] yeah, mdraid is the special driver, but it's next to impossible to use it on Ubuntu server hardy [02:42] theres no clear documentation on how to run dmraid, then install ubuntu server 8.04 no gui mode [03:53] New bug: #278864 in samba4 (universe) "package samba4 None [modified: /var/lib/dpkg/info/samba4.list] failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite `/usr/bin/nsstest', which is also in package samba-tools" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/278864 [04:04] I'm playing with mdadm, I pulled a disk out (hotswap) of a running server and put it in 5 minutes ago. I got an error and degraded event for /dev/md0 ... how do I resync everything now? [04:08] add the disk again [04:11] I did, I pulled it and put it back. /dev/md0 is showing as State : clean, degraded [04:12] mdadm /dev/md0 --add /dev/ [04:12] or maybe --re-add [04:12] (I've never used re-add until now) [04:14] cool, I think that did it. Now I just need to figure out how to do an automatic re-add with my hotswap functionality [04:14] I guess that would require a custom udev rule or something [04:16] adding it manually (e.g. through a remote shell) isn't really a lot of work though [04:27] How much disk space is the bare minimum for Ubuntu Server? [04:50] ball: I think it's less than 300 MiB [04:51] but then you don't have anything useful running on it... [04:51] JanC: Thanks. Sadly it didn't work on this machine. I think the installer tried to use some fancy graphics mode, which just corrupted the screen. [04:52] AFAIK the installer uses curses on a console, which should work (almost) everywhere? [04:53] Perhaps it just loaded a font that didn't work on this box then. [04:53] I /did/ see the Ubuntu logo splash. [04:53] ...but afterwards the menus were illegible. [04:54] oh, that was after installing then? [04:54] JanC: no. [04:54] JanC: that was upon booting from the install CD [04:54] oh, the isolinux bootloader then maybe [04:55] * ball isn't sure what that is, but it sounds credible. [04:55] were you running in a VM? [04:55] No, this is a bare machine. [04:55] (not capable of virtualisation) [04:56] then I have no idea (I know it has some issues because the bootloader uses the 16-bits CPU mode) [04:57] and some virtualisation software versions don't like that [04:58] you might want to file a bug [04:58] Well, whatever code was at fault, it tried to do something fancy that the display hardware didn't like. [04:58] JanC: if I knew how, I would. [04:58] bugs.ubuntu.com [04:59] JanC: Ah right. I have no access to the Web at present. [04:59] then do it later [04:59] Okay, I'll make myself a note to do that. [05:00] did you try the latest stable release (8.10) or a development version? [05:00] 8.10 [05:01] trying latest 9.04 alpha or daily might be useful too (to make sure it wasn't fixed already) [05:01] JanC: I'll see if I can get a copy of that in the morning then. [05:02] what's a good mp3 trans-coder/ converter? [05:02] billy12: taht's not really server-related... [05:03] billy12: ask in #ubuntu please [05:03] billy12: bladeenc for encoding, amp for playing? [05:03] lol sorry, yea, but i was looking for a CLI version, friendly to server [05:03] billy12: I prefer Ogg/Vorbis given the option though. [05:05] billy12: still not a server question, and if there is a need for it, someone might propose an #ubuntu-cli channel... ;-) [05:06] Hopefully back later, downloading some system source files. [05:09] thank you, but may try like so, if one had to trans-code a mp3 on ubuntu-server, what program would you turn to? [05:42] hey, can any one help me get my server to share its internet connection [08:13] Whats the benefit of running own local DNS-server? Now we use only nettica.com's services. [08:15] You can use DNS for local hosts and also cache [08:16] I always use mine with at least one slave in another country, and for a local network you can use cache, it saves you a lot of bw [08:16] for LAN I like to use dhcp3-server+bind9 for Dynamic DNS [08:17] * hads uses dnsmasq [08:17] and if you're ISP, you may want to run unbound :) [08:18] unbound? [08:18] Get it? bind, unbound [08:19] * jmedina hates virtualize windows under xen :S [08:19] is that the new dns daemon? [08:20] I think I heard about it a few weeks [08:20] First hit in google :) [08:20] I was using bind9 at a isp without problems [08:20] even under attacks [08:20] :D [08:21] by the way is there any ubuntu bind9 version with ldap support? [08:22] well, time to sleep, cya [08:23] heh === lokix is now known as lokixza [08:53] moin [08:53] <^law1^> moin :) [08:59] moin [09:20] New bug: #340383 in dhcp3 (main) "dhcpd sends 127.0.1.1 as DNS server" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/340383 [09:26] what other av software can i put on my firewall server, based on this post: [09:26] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=380169 [09:37] Hey! [09:37] I have an old computer running ubuntu server at home and I wonder two things: a) What is the recommended temperature for a regular file/web server? b) Are there any neat tricks on how to make the server cooler? [09:38] I totally understand that this varies, but it's currently at 51C and it sounds quite warm. [09:39] <^law1^> hm tat quiet hot bro [09:39] Any ideas on how to make it cooler? [09:39] big gold chain? [09:40] <^law1^> ur server is real server or pc tat functioning as server? [09:40] a pc [09:40] <^law1^> how many cpu fans u put ? [09:41] just one [09:41] not sure that question makes sense ^law1^ [09:41] kallepersson, where is it located? put it somewhere with clear airflow, keep hdds 1 space apart if possible, put in some more fans, and make sure its not dusty inside [09:42] <^law1^> the best way is place ur server in air conditioner room [09:42] 51C doesn't sound completely unreasonable to me. [09:42] Only have one hdd atm. but thanks [09:42] Sure, it'd be better if you could get it down to 20C or so, but 51C is what I'd expect from a machine like that. [09:42] It's just going to function as a home server, so I don't have access to any air conditioner room [09:43] soren: right, thanks [09:43] Just don't put it in the boiler room :) [09:43] 50 for an idle temp is a bit high for my liking, but nto unreasonabe [09:43] <^law1^> if the room not so dusty open ur casing case [09:44] ^law1^: it's my living room :) [09:44] kallepersson: Error: "law1^:" is not a valid command. [09:44] >___> [09:45] <^law1^> then add extra fans will be the best way [09:45] thx [09:46] <^law1^> :) [09:48] Opening the case is probably not a good idea. It ruins the airflow. [09:48] Oh? [09:48] btw, is there any nice tools to check temperature other than cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM/temperature? [09:49] I mean.. Sure, go ahead and open it if you want to put more stuff in there or whatnot, but keeping it open as a way to keep it cool... I don't think that'll turn out as expected. [09:49] kallepersson: sensors, but i think it need lm-sensors installed [09:50] does anyone know if it is planned to include AR81 driver in upcoming lrm releases ? [09:51] simplexio: no package called sensors as far as I can tell [09:51] lm-senors [09:51] ok, got it [09:51] lm-profiler and lm-syslog-setup? [09:51] ? [09:52] on my computer lm-sensors is in repository [09:52] well, only those two binaries are installed as far as i can tell [09:52] yes, got it installed [09:52] but how do I check temperature [09:53] right, it's a tool for creating a profile of your server's temperature [09:53] ah, "sensors" [09:55] first you need setup it.. sensors-setup ? [09:56] depnds drivers which it loads. on my desktop it show currents etc from power too [10:21] ./וןא [10:44] I'm trying to add my printer via remotely via cups and the web GUI, but it's saying my security certificate is 'self-signed' [10:44] I see the printer, but I can't enable it [10:51] hrmm === Abracad4br4 is now known as Abracadabra [11:19] New bug: #340404 in postfix (main) "package postfix 2.5.5-1 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/340404 [11:26] * lamont` would love to know how people are managing to delete /etc/postfix/postfix-script and having it not land on the dist-upgrade, given that it's IN THE DEB [11:31] lamont`: Is it a conffile? === lamont` is now known as lamont [11:32] soren: everything in /etc is a conffile [11:32] lamont: That's how, then. [11:32] fsck.ext3: Device or resource busy while trying to open /dev/sda2 [11:32] lamont: Everything in /etc is not a conffile, though. [11:33] WTF is it trying to open sda2 - that's part of /dev/md1 - of course it's busy, dammit [11:33] lamont: Everything *shipped* in /etc and processed by dh_installdeb with a debhelper compat level > 2, yes. [11:33] soren: so anyway, they remove postfix-script, and then they upgrade, it blows up, and somehow that's my fault [11:34] lamont: Well... Yes :) [11:34] lamont: If the admin deletes a conffile, dpkg respects that and doesn't put it back. [11:34] and if I have preinst check for the file and bomb out, then they'll just file bugs saying that preinst fialed [11:35] lamont: Postfix should either handle the absence of that file gracefully or make it not a conffile. [11:35] and how does one make it not a conffile? [11:36] lamont: Either set DH_COMPAT=2 (bad idea) or ship it in /usr somewhere and copy it in from postinst. [11:36] lamont: Or stop using debhelper altogether :) [11:36] giggle [11:36] Hey, there /are/ package that don't use debhelper. [11:37] and yeah, it doesn't really belong in /etc other than for the fact that upstream kinda hardcodes it as being there, and one could argue that it actually is/should-be a conffile [11:37] for my never ending pain [11:46] ==> ship a copy in /usr, and replace it in protinst if the admin removed it. am I allowed to berate the admin? :) [11:56] lamont: In Debian, perhaps. I don't think the CoC allows you to do so in Ubuntu. :/ [11:59] hey i have 8.04 and 8.10 server on one machine [11:59] how can i take off 8.04 server [11:59] What do you mean? Are you dual-booting the two? [12:00] yes [12:00] i want to get rid of 8.04 [12:01] Just remove the partition and remove it from the list in /boot/grub/menu.lst. [12:03] just remove anything that says 8.04? [12:03] like it will say Ubuntu 8.04.2, kernal 2.6.24-23-server? [12:04] how do i remove the partition? [12:07] soren: any ideas? [12:09] bromic94: mkfs will stomp on it. most times, I just reuse the partition for something else [12:09] i want to get rid of everything [12:09] from 8.04 [12:09] so 8.1 has everything from the hard drive [12:10] by which you mean that you want to make it one partition that has 8.10 filling all of the space formerly given to 8.04 and 8.10 separately? [12:10] yes [12:11] depending on the partition table, that could be anything from simply a delete and resize in fdisk and resize2fs, to a reinstall [12:11] the only server i want is 8.10 [12:11] how do i format to put 8.1 back on? [12:11] 8.10 for starters... 8.1 is ambiguous... [12:12] if you just boot the 8.10 server disk, one of the options is (paraphrased) "stomp on the drive and use all of it" [12:12] * lamont cries at blkid [12:14] so that will make everything 8.10? [12:23] lamont: What's wrong with blkid? [12:23] soren: #u-d <-- it hates me [12:24] Yeah, I just saw. [12:24] * soren pats lamont on the head [12:24] lamont: There, there. [12:57] question. how can i check which nameservers the domain is using ? [12:58] orudie: dig domain.com NS [12:58] thanx [12:59] :) [13:34] how do you get to the sepcific line number in nano ? [13:38] orudie: ctrl+c [13:38] oops, read that wrong [13:38] thought you wanted to see what line you were on [13:40] ctrl+w and then ctrl+t will allow you to enter the desired line number (and column number as well, for that matter) [14:07] I need to setup a dns server, I have seen tutorials for a couple of different ones (powerdns, mydns). Can anyone offer any suggestions on a nice dns setup for web hosting? [14:11] I guess this mailinglist "https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-security-announce" covers *all* the security announcements but is there a mailinglist for security updates on server only ? [14:11] @heath: a simple easy to use dns server ist dnsmasq, but it's simple and so it has some limitations. [14:15] @heath on the other end is bind, I think bind can everything in the dns field, but isn't so simple to configure [14:20] * ball points out that this isn't Twitter ;-) [14:21] mathiaz: I want to add pax to amavisd-new depends which will mean it gets added to the CD. It's only ~50K and solves Debian Bug 517156 (which apparently has some security implications), so I'm pretty sure it's the right thing to do, but wanted to run it by someone here first. [14:21] Debian bug 517156 in amavisd-new "amavisd-new: should recommend pax" [Important,Fixed] http://bugs.debian.org/517156 [14:22] viezerd: There is not. It's all in one repository, so there's no clear way to make a distinction. [14:23] ah ok, thx for the information ScottK [14:26] ScottK: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/daily/current/jaunty-server-amd64.list says that pax is already on the cd [14:27] ScottK: so there isn't any problem adding pax as a dependency of amavisd-new [14:27] mathiaz: Thanks. I Iooked at the seeds and read them wrong I guess. [14:27] Iooked/looked [14:28] ScottK: I used to look at the seed - even the output of germinate isn't that easy to parse by human eyes [14:28] yeah. [14:28] ScottK: when it comes to the content of the -server iso I always look at the .list file on cdimage [14:29] I think that's a good practice. [14:59] aruetten, Thanks for the input, I will look into dnsmasq [15:02] o/ [15:02] Ubuntu Server meeting will be here today. [15:02] :) [15:02] ScottK: 15:00 UTC? [15:02] all right - due to a conflict in ubuntu-meeting we'll run the ubuntu-server meeting here [15:02] Now [15:03] lots of new attendees [15:03] #startmeeting [15:03] mathiaz: good luck with that [15:03] o/ [15:03] kirkland: I know [15:03] :-) [15:03] * ball sits down and shuts up [15:03] kirkland: but it also help for writting the minutes later :) [15:04] so today's agenda: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/Meeting [15:04] ok [15:04] Previous meeting minutes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/Server/20090303 [15:04] [TOPIC] SRU bug tracking [15:04] ivoks: ^^ [15:04] ivoks: ready to discuss that? [15:04] nope [15:04] :) [15:04] ivoks: ok - let's move on then [15:04] i'll add it to agenda when redy [15:05] ready [15:05] [ACTION] ACTION: ivoks to add to the server team agenda an item about better SRU management. [15:05] [TOPIC] Postfix and Dovecot integration [15:05] ivoks: thanks for blogging about it [15:05] right, we got nice feedback [15:05] people like it so far... [15:05] ivoks: there was a bug related to the package [15:05] was it? [15:06] ivoks: bug 339966 [15:06] Launchpad bug 339966 in dovecot "dangerous action: dovecot-postfix force-installs new conf file" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/339966 [15:06] I'm not sure how we should handle that. [15:06] If it's accurate, that's not Low, IMO. [15:06] I've been discussing wit the reporter [15:07] i see... [15:07] ScottK: I don't think dangerous is the correct word [15:07] i'll work on a fix for this [15:07] ivoks: what would be the plan? [15:08] i have to think about it [15:08] check if dovecot.conf is changed [15:08] I'm not sure we should/could support upgrading an existing dovecot system to integrate it with postfix [15:08] It can be known if the existing config is modified or not, so I think this is solvable. [15:08] not really - dovecot.conf is modified by -pop and -imap when they get installed [15:09] * nijaba realizes the meeting is here... o/ [15:09] Hmmm [15:09] mathiaz: well, we can workaround it [15:09] OK. Then I'm glad ivoks is going to solve it. [15:09] mathiaz: ignore ^protocols and then check [15:09] modified but not ignored completely [15:09] if user changed protocols, he still has not working dovecot [15:09] or... hm... [15:09] ivoks: OTOH I'm not sure if we should support this in the dovecot-postfix package [15:10] if used had imap support, and he decides to install pop3, will that break imap ? [15:10] mathiaz: i understand your point of view and i agree [15:10] the dovecot-postfix package is a different kind of package since it encapsulate a script [15:10] It doesn't really ship new files - it just modifies existing configuration [15:10] mathiaz: maybe we should warn user during preinst [15:11] mathiaz: adding 'if you have already working dovecot, purge this package' [15:11] ivoks: I thought about that - but you cannot detect if you're installing a brand new system or if the system is an pseudo-upgrade of a running dovecot system [15:11] mathiaz: we just let everybody know that? [15:11] mathiaz: it's a good way to advertise all features that comes with it :) [15:12] ivoks: right - so I think we should update the description of the package [15:12] or that... [15:12] ivoks: also - I think that the postinst modifies the dovecot.conf file [15:12] ivoks: to stick a comment in it [15:12] nope [15:12] that's in source [15:12] dovecot.conf is modified during build [15:13] ivoks: hm - right. [15:13] ivoks: so may be doing this in the postinst will force a ucf merge of dovecot.conf [15:13] urgh... [15:13] ivoks: that way the admin will have to see the new comment added in dovecot.conf during postinst which would have helped in the situation [15:14] ivoks: I don't know if that's the correct way to do it though [15:14] give me couple of days to thing about this [15:14] think [15:14] ivoks: right - could you post your solution to the bug? [15:14] sure [15:15] I'm not sure about the right way to tackle this issue [15:15] let's move on [15:15] [TOPIC] Samba bug day [15:15] me neither, so i have to think about it for a while :) [15:16] as you may have noticed if you read the planet next Thursday will be dedicated to triagging samba bugs [15:16] ttx: thanks for blogging about it [15:16] how do i install an older version of package ? [15:16] nijaba: still on track to blog about it tomorrow? [15:16] mathiaz: sure [15:16] mathiaz: blog is ready [15:17] I'll prepare also a post to be published on Thursday [15:17] waiting ti tomorrow 9am for launch [15:17] nijaba: awesome - thanks :) [15:17] mathiaz: who will be running the show from QA ? [15:17] methods: Specify version on cli apt-get. eg: sudo apt-get install something=specific-version "specific-version" is one which can be reported by apt-cache policy [15:18] ttx: you [15:18] ttx: and me :) [15:18] when logging in over ssh i have a log delay before the bash prompt appears [15:18] ttx: oh - QA - noone special [15:18] I am not sure why its on some systems but not others [15:18] mathiaz: ok [15:18] ttx: the whole triagger community is there [15:19] ttx: we should be in #ubuntu-bugs to give a hand to the triagger though [15:19] I'll be there. [15:19] incorrect: failure to do a reverse dns check is generally the issue [15:19] any developer is welcome in #ubuntu-bugs too [15:20] to help out with samba bugs [15:20] let's move on [15:20] [TOPIC] Exchange support for Evolution [15:20] nicetry, I've set DNS to no, it look to be that some nodes can't talk to the ldap server for some weird reason [15:20] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lustre/+bug/229821 <--- anyone has figured fix for what ? [15:20] Launchpad bug 229821 in lustre "lustre-source build fails in hardy" [Undecided,New] [15:20] ivoks: ^^ how did this worked out? [15:20] still nothing [15:20] ivoks: no time or not working? [15:20] evolution crashes [15:21] ivoks: did you report a bug? [15:21] i tested mapiprofile app today and it worked (i guess) [15:21] mathiaz: not yet, i see there's new evolution-mapi in archive [15:21]