| MaFrei | hello, i'm back again and i have a problem while i want to install a Realtec Ethenet driver. I have postet de output with the error here http://paste.ubuntu.com/129008/ | 00:06 |
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| MaFrei | the error i english is: install: regular File ?/lib/modules/2.6.27-11-generic/kernel/drivers/net/r8101.ko? cannot been shown: Permission denied | 00:07 |
| MaFrei | maybe the problem is that exactly those realtec driver is already installed in xubuntu? | 00:09 |
| Mood | anyone used skype w/ xubuntu on machine < P4? (i.e. P3 ~500 MHz)? any problems/issues? | 00:59 |
| j1mc | can someone tell me why there are six different printing applets in xubuntu? | 02:17 |
| j1mc | http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/9706/printinghell.png | 02:17 |
| zoredache | if one doesn't work, maybe the other will? It makes setting up printing easier... | 02:19 |
| j1mc | zoredache: having to choose between 6 different applets to print or set up a printer doesn't make much sense. | 02:19 |
| * zoredache wonders if people realized he was trying to be sarcastic.... | 02:20 | |
| j1mc | haha... no, i didn't, sorry. | 02:20 |
| zoredache | j1mc: yeah.. | 02:20 |
| vejan738 | help question? | 03:31 |
| vejan738 | i got a IBM600e laptop with xubuntu 8.04 and it freezes loading up for about 5 minutes, then it finishes loading to my desktop | 03:32 |
| vejan738 | how an i solve this problem?/ | 03:33 |
| dgimse | greetings I just installed xubuntu 8.10 and have run amock a few problems and i was wondering if anyone else had these problems. I think they are caused by my manual installation of the 96.43.11 drivers. anyone else having problems after installing the NVIDIA-Linux-x86-96.43.11-pkg1.run file? | 04:15 |
| taw | morning | 07:07 |
| === rocko is now known as wget | ||
| === wget is now known as vlc | ||
| === vlc is now known as gxine | ||
| Pip | Hello, how to install xubuntu in a text mode virtual console other than X11 graphic environment ? | 09:08 |
| Pip | Is there any command like setup to get a text mode GUI ? | 09:08 |
| turbanoff | hii all | 09:09 |
| turbanoff | need help | 09:09 |
| turbanoff | Xubuntu in VirtualBiox | 09:09 |
| turbanoff | i remove networkmanager* packages | 09:10 |
| Pip | How to get a plain text mode GUI for xubuntu installation in a virtual console ? | 09:11 |
| pingvinas | hello everyone | 09:53 |
| pingvinas | i got a biiiig problem. PLZ HELp!!!!! | 09:53 |
| pingvinas | the top line (menu) and the bottom line on the desktop has dissapeared | 09:53 |
| pingvinas | what's going on? | 09:53 |
| pingvinas | plz i need it desperately!!!! | 09:54 |
| pingvinas | how to get them back? | 09:55 |
| Pip | the X11 got crazy when booting from live CD | 09:55 |
| protium | hey umm can anyone help me out, im kinda new to xubuntu (new to linux as whole actually) and i want to configure proxy in xubuntu but i dunno how | 09:56 |
| pingvinas | i didn't boot them from live cd | 09:56 |
| protium | nvm go t it | 10:02 |
| taw | Pip, use alternate install cd, that installs in text mode | 10:24 |
| pingvinas | hello | 10:34 |
| pingvinas | i removed .gnome and .gconf directories to get default gnome configuration, but it doesn't restore it!! | 10:35 |
| pingvinas | what should i do to get default gnome back? | 10:35 |
| ablomen_ | pingvinas, .gnome2 has all the gnome settings .gnome is only there for backwards compatibility afaik | 10:37 |
| pingvinas | albomen_, i don't have gnome2 | 10:41 |
| pingvinas | ablomen, is it in /etc/ | 10:42 |
| pingvinas | ablomen_ how to get the .gconf directory back? | 10:56 |
| taw | pingvinas, .gnome2, not gnome2 | 10:57 |
| taw | pingvinas, how did you remove it, with rm or some file manager? | 10:57 |
| pingvinas | rm | 10:57 |
| pingvinas | since i was told that after restarting it will configure the defaults automatically | 10:58 |
| pingvinas | now i don't have the default setting neither do i have .gnome or .gconf | 10:58 |
| pingvinas | taw, do you know how can i get the desktop panels back and the configuration directories? | 10:59 |
| pingvinas | shall i resinstall xubuntu or is there any easier solution? | 10:59 |
| taw | sure there is | 10:59 |
| taw | are you talking about gnome or xfce? | 10:59 |
| pingvinas | what shall i do then? please help, taw. i am not a professional but i need it desperatelly | 11:00 |
| taw | can you get terminal somehow? | 11:00 |
| pingvinas | sorry, but i don't know the difference between the two. | 11:00 |
| pingvinas | yes, i can get the terminal | 11:00 |
| pingvinas | i got it | 11:01 |
| pingvinas | what shall i do next? | 11:01 |
| taw | run ' xfce4-panel &' | 11:01 |
| pingvinas | wow, i got it back!!! :) | 11:01 |
| pingvinas | now how can i get the .conf and .gnome folders back? | 11:02 |
| pingvinas | thanks!!! | 11:02 |
| pingvinas | taw! | 11:02 |
| taw | now just add applets you need, and log out with 'save session' box checked | 11:02 |
| pingvinas | yeah, i will do that. will it restore the .gnome and .gconf folders? | 11:02 |
| taw | any idea why you need them? | 11:03 |
| pingvinas | i get a warning window about the gnone config when the computer starts and it began after i deleted the .conf and .gnome | 11:04 |
| pingvinas | but i will restart now with 'save session' and see what happens | 11:04 |
| pingvinas | plz, don't quit for a while taw, i get back | 11:04 |
| pingvinas | taw, i get the error message that configuration defaults for gnome power manager have not been installed properly and that i should contact the administrator | 11:06 |
| taw | at least this would work: | 11:06 |
| taw | 1) boot to recovery mode | 11:07 |
| taw | (on grub you get meny by pressing esc, I think) | 11:07 |
| pingvinas | how can i boot to recovery mode? | 11:07 |
| taw | on grub menu you have that | 11:07 |
| pingvinas | you mean at the login window? | 11:08 |
| taw | for very short period it says something like press esc to get menu | 11:08 |
| taw | no no, before you get kernel loaded | 11:08 |
| pingvinas | oh ok | 11:08 |
| pingvinas | and then? | 11:08 |
| pingvinas | after i boot to recovery | 11:09 |
| pingvinas | ? | 11:09 |
| taw | there might be some text-mode menu | 11:09 |
| pingvinas | ok | 11:09 |
| taw | you take shell | 11:09 |
| taw | on shell | 11:09 |
| taw | cd /home | 11:09 |
| pingvinas | ok | 11:10 |
| pingvinas | and then? | 11:10 |
| taw | here I assume your accoutn is uzer, replace it with your actual loginname | 11:10 |
| taw | mv uzer uzer.org | 11:10 |
| taw | mkdir uzer | 11:10 |
| taw | chown uzer: uzer | 11:10 |
| taw | exit | 11:10 |
| taw | reboot | 11:10 |
| taw | login with your account | 11:10 |
| taw | should create all again | 11:11 |
| pingvinas | so i need to write uzer uzer.org? why is that .org? | 11:11 |
| pingvinas | i mean: mv uzer uzer.org | 11:11 |
| pingvinas | ? | 11:11 |
| taw | then you can move or copy files & folders from ../uzer.org to your new home directory | 11:11 |
| taw | you rename your old home directory | 11:12 |
| taw | and make new, empty directory | 11:12 |
| pingvinas | so now my home directory is "migi", so i rename it to "migi.org" and then i create new "migi" and then move everything back from "migi.org" to "migi" right?> | 11:13 |
| taw | when you log in with empty home directory, it's like login first time | 11:13 |
| taw | yes | 11:13 |
| taw | and that migi.org can be migi.this_was_before_everyhting_blow_up or what ever you want | 11:13 |
| pingvinas | now one important question: is there any danger to the data on my computer? i have some really important things without back up, which i don't want to love | 11:13 |
| pingvinas | to lose | 11:14 |
| taw | that's why we mv, not rm | 11:14 |
| pingvinas | ok, and then i move everything when i get back to kernel? | 11:14 |
| pingvinas | and chown uzer: uzer is for what? | 11:15 |
| taw | to make you the directory owner, without that root would own that, and you would not have write permission to it | 11:15 |
| pingvinas | oh ok | 11:16 |
| taw | when moving everything back, be carefull | 11:16 |
| pingvinas | why? | 11:16 |
| taw | so that you won't copy something old, broken over newly created working ones | 11:16 |
| pingvinas | and how can i move everything back? | 11:17 |
| taw | I would do: | 11:17 |
| taw | cd ../migi.org | 11:17 |
| taw | mv -i * ~ | 11:17 |
| taw | mv -i .* ~ | 11:17 |
| pingvinas | and that's it? | 11:18 |
| taw | and on every question 'overwrite ....' answer is no | 11:18 |
| taw | man mv | 11:18 |
| pingvinas | so i should write '*~' without space? | 11:18 |
| taw | no | 11:19 |
| taw | ~ is your home dir | 11:19 |
| pingvinas | so i should write '* home'? | 11:19 |
| taw | you can also say 'mv -i * ../migi/' yif you feel better with it | 11:19 |
| pingvinas | oh i see now | 11:20 |
| pingvinas | and i should do that in shell too? | 11:20 |
| taw | yes | 11:20 |
| pingvinas | and then write 'man mv'? | 11:20 |
| pingvinas | and after that 'exit'? | 11:21 |
| taw | you can do same thing in graphical file manager also if you feel more comfortable with it | 11:21 |
| pingvinas | i will do it in shell i guess | 11:21 |
| taw | that 'man mv ' is only if you want to know what that mv -i means | 11:22 |
| pingvinas | so after 'mv -i * ../migi/' i should write 'exit' directly? | 11:22 |
| taw | you want to do that 'mv -i .* ~' also | 11:22 |
| pingvinas | yes | 11:22 |
| pingvinas | and then exit? | 11:23 |
| taw | if you want | 11:23 |
| taw | or you can leave shell open | 11:23 |
| pingvinas | and then i get back to kernel? | 11:23 |
| pingvinas | ok i try now | 11:23 |
| pingvinas | thanks a lot taw! | 11:23 |
| taw | wait | 11:24 |
| pingvinas | ?? | 11:24 |
| taw | you can run those 'mv' commands in terminal, as youself, doesn't need to be root | 11:24 |
| pingvinas | ok so no i go to recovery mode, then "cd /home" then "mv migi migi.org", then "mkdir migi", then "chown migi: migi", exit and then do the "mv" commands in terminal back in kernel, right? | 11:25 |
| pingvinas | is that right? | 11:27 |
| pingvinas | taw? | 11:27 |
| taw | your usage of 'kernel' word is correct | 11:27 |
| pingvinas | sorry? | 11:29 |
| taw | what you mean with 'kernel' ? | 11:29 |
| pingvinas | i mean back to desktop | 11:29 |
| taw | 'ok so no i go to recovery mode, then "cd /home" then "mv migi migi.org", then "mkdir migi", then "chown migi: migi", exit and then do the "mv" commands in terminal back in desktop' | 11:30 |
| taw | yes, that's correct | 11:30 |
| pingvinas | ok | 11:30 |
| pingvinas | thanks a lot, taw | 11:30 |
| taw | no prob | 11:30 |
| pingvinas | taw, it doesn't work anyway. it didn't create new .gconf or .gnome | 11:56 |
| pingvinas | so i don't know how to get those directories back | 11:57 |
| taw | is your xubuntu upgraded from some earlier version? | 11:58 |
| pingvinas | i think it's the last one | 11:59 |
| pingvinas | how can i check? | 11:59 |
| pingvinas | i just installed it two months ago or so | 11:59 |
| taw | ok then, if you know you haven't upgraded form one version to another | 11:59 |
| taw | ' ... from one ...' | 12:00 |
| pingvinas | but would it make any difference? | 12:00 |
| pingvinas | so i should type ' ... from one ... ' in terminal? | 12:00 |
| taw | I was just thinking if those directories were created with old distribution, and aren't really used anymore | 12:01 |
| taw | but you still have some problem, what was the error? | 12:01 |
| pingvinas | it says on start up that the gnome configuration power adapter is wrecked | 12:02 |
| pingvinas | power adaptor or something... | 12:02 |
| taw | on menu, take 'settings -> power management' | 12:02 |
| pingvinas | it says 'the configuration defaults for GNOME power manager have not been isntalled correctly | 12:03 |
| pingvinas | ' | 12:03 |
| pingvinas | so it's something with power adapter | 12:03 |
| pingvinas | any idea how to solve this problem? | 12:04 |
| taw | have you tried google? | 12:07 |
| pingvinas | no, not yet | 12:07 |
| pingvinas | looking, but can't find anything | 12:08 |
| taw | http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-980711.html | 12:10 |
| taw | first hit with search 'the configuration defaults for GNOME power manager have not been isntalled correctly' | 12:10 |
| pingvinas | shall i try to reinstall it? | 12:13 |
| pingvinas | 'apt-get --reinstall install gnome-power-manager' in terminal? | 12:13 |
| taw | 'sudo' in front of that | 12:15 |
| pingvinas | yeah, do you think i should do that? | 12:15 |
| taw | yes | 12:16 |
| pingvinas | taw, it still says the same error | 12:19 |
| pingvinas | it's probably because i removed .gconf and .gnome | 12:20 |
| pingvinas | since before that it was ok | 12:20 |
| taw | config defaults and use .gnome and .gconfd are different thing | 12:22 |
| taw | I would suspect reason is something else | 12:22 |
| taw | but gotta go | 12:22 |
| bradley__ | hi. i am trying to delete some (lots and lots) if files from a usb drive. for some reason the default action seems to be to move the files into the trash on my computer. is there a way to have it bypass that and just delete them directly form the usb drive? | 12:37 |
| dixon2081 | cannot log into xcfe4 any tips? | 13:00 |
| dixon2081 | i am using ubuntu 8.10 with kubuntu and xubuntu desktops | 13:00 |
| charlie-tca | dixon2081: any error messages? | 13:06 |
| dixon2081 | no | 13:06 |
| dixon2081 | it goes right back to the log in screen | 13:06 |
| dixon2081 | how would i set xcfe4 back to defaults thru terminal, what codes do i need to enter? | 13:26 |
| charlie-tca | delete ~/.config/xfce4 and ~/.config/xfce4-session and restart the system. That will delete all changes you have made to it. | 13:28 |
| reynante | my listen music player does not play my mp3s continuously, how do i fix this? | 13:37 |
| reynante | after playing a song, it will not play the next song | 13:37 |
| charlie-tca | Are they all listed in the playlist on the left? | 13:38 |
| reynante | yes | 13:39 |
| reynante | its in full display mode | 13:39 |
| dixon20811 | i got a bash with that command you gave me | 13:40 |
| charlie-tca | reynante: I don't know enough about it. wel will see if someone else can answer | 13:40 |
| reynante | left side is the album, right sides are the songs | 13:40 |
| charlie-tca | dixon20811: what do you mean you got a bash? | 13:40 |
| reynante | maybe the player hates avril lavigne | 13:40 |
| reynante | :) | 13:40 |
| charlie-tca | reynante: maybe? | 13:41 |
| dixon20811 | well it said it could not remove the file | 13:41 |
| charlie-tca | That is probably the problem, then. If you were in your HOME directory, you should be the owner and able to remove them | 13:43 |
| charlie-tca | perhaps kubuntu changed permissions | 13:43 |
| dixon20811 | idk | 13:43 |
| dixon20811 | i just had to set kde back to default | 13:43 |
| dixon20811 | now im trying to set gnome back to default | 13:44 |
| dixon20811 | and then xfce4 back to default | 13:44 |
| reynante | charlie-tca, got it, the file needs to be enqueued | 13:45 |
| charlie-tca | great. glad you got it. | 13:45 |
| reynante | <-- windows fanboy | 13:45 |
| dixon20811 | <--- hates windows | 13:46 |
| reynante | not yet familiar with the new additions of xubuntu | 13:46 |
| dixon20811 | well i got it thru sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop | 13:46 |
| dixon20811 | with ubuntu 8.10 | 13:46 |
| reynante | well we can't do away with windows, adobe cs3 programs, autocad, 3dstudio max and stuff | 13:46 |
| dixon20811 | <- has had success with wine :) | 13:47 |
| reynante | well if you configure and maintain win xp right, you can run it with a p3 machine with 128mb ram | 13:48 |
| reynante | although xubuntu would run faster :) | 13:48 |
| dixon20811 | :) | 13:48 |
| dixon20811 | <- likes ubuntu, kubuntu and xubuntu, but likes xubuntu the best :) | 13:49 |
| reynante | of all the buntus, i like xubuntu best too | 13:49 |
| dixon20811 | :) | 13:49 |
| reynante | ubuntu = 2 hand broad sword , xubuntu = katana | 13:49 |
| dixon20811 | :) | 13:50 |
| dixon20811 | windows = bastard sword :p | 13:50 |
| dixon20811 | brb | 13:51 |
| dixon20811 | gotta c if something worked... | 13:51 |
| ball | I just gave Xubuntu a plug on the Illinois school tech geeks mailing list. | 13:52 |
| ball | ...because I like it. | 13:52 |
| charlie-tca | Thank you, ball | 13:53 |
| charlie-tca | good news is always welcome | 13:53 |
| ball | charlie-tca: No problem. Someone on there asked what OS to run on a Pentium III box. | 13:53 |
| ball | ...so I offered up my vote. | 13:54 |
| genii | A low-overhead one ;) | 13:54 |
| charlie-tca | Easy question, huh? | 13:54 |
| ball | Ah, now I get to read other people's suggestions. | 13:54 |
| ball | I wonder what "Zenwalk" is. | 13:55 |
| ball | Ah, someone else suggested Ubuntu | 13:55 |
| ball | I think I would prefer Xubuntu even on a faster box. | 13:55 |
| genii | For many people the xfce desktop confuses them, I've found | 13:56 |
| ball | I'm trialling Xfce at a site about 130 miles S. of here. | 13:56 |
| ball | That's not being done on Xubuntu yet though. | 13:57 |
| ball | I should say "preparing to trial" | 13:57 |
| ball | At the moment their desktops are running on a server with NetBSD, but I've done it on Ubuntu Server before now too. | 13:58 |
| genii | At one of my jobs we are putting Xubuntu on about 2500 old p2 boxes | 13:58 |
| ball | genii: There's a 300 MHz Celeron Covington box behind me. | 13:58 |
| genii | Hehe, nice | 13:58 |
| ball | I tried installing Ubuntu Server on it last night, but the installer wouldn't work with the display adaptor. | 13:58 |
| ball | genii: I've had to press it into service as a test rig, to replace my 800 MHz Pentium III box that died. | 13:59 |
| reynante | genii, wish i can help you install xubuntu | 13:59 |
| reynante | 2500 units = thats quite a handful | 13:59 |
| reynante | what are they for? school? | 14:00 |
| ball | Oh good! Someone else plugged Xubuntu too! | 14:00 |
| ball | Ideally it'll become the default school OS for Illinois :-) | 14:00 |
| genii | reynante: We got them from city hall, old office boxes (Dell GX1) . The place I am working for is a community based ISP. So we are putting Xubuntu, with old dialup modems and giving them away to ppl without computers and internet, etc. | 14:01 |
| ball | Wait, you said 2,500 ?! | 14:01 |
| reynante | wow, thats great genii | 14:01 |
| genii | ball: Yes. We had over 3,000 but some were no good and got stripped | 14:01 |
| reynante | if people shared like this, i dont think that life would be hard | 14:02 |
| ball | genii: how will they connect to your ISP? Via POTS? | 14:02 |
| genii | ball: Yup | 14:02 |
| ball | genii: do you have a bank of analogue modems, or something like a T-1 line? | 14:02 |
| reynante | linux will the backbone of things when shtf | 14:02 |
| genii | ball: We have 2 PRI | 14:02 |
| ball | genii: both for inbound calls, or is one a trunk to the Internet? | 14:03 |
| genii | ball: Both for incoming, one line reserved for incoming system access only for terminal to the routers, servers, etc | 14:03 |
| ball | genii: where are you btw? | 14:04 |
| genii | ball: Toronto, Canada | 14:04 |
| ball | HAH! I knew it! | 14:04 |
| reynante | wish i can migrate to canada :) | 14:04 |
| ball | reynante: that's on my "to-do" list | 14:05 |
| reynante | then work with genii to help install xubuntu | 14:05 |
| reynante | ball, where are you from? | 14:05 |
| ball | reynante: I'm British, but I live in Illinois, USA | 14:05 |
| reynante | ah | 14:05 |
| reynante | im pinoy, from the philippines | 14:05 |
| ball | Once I have this disk ready, I should try installing Xubuntu on this box. It's possible the installer doesn't suffer the same problem as Ubuntu Server | 14:06 |
| ball | It probably wants more than 192 Mbytes RAM though. | 14:07 |
| ball | ...the most this box will take is 256M | 14:08 |
| charlie-tca | ball: I have tested Jaunty in 128MB ram. Using the alternate cd, you can install and run fine in 192MB | 14:08 |
| charlie-tca | (a little slow, maybe) | 14:08 |
| charlie-tca | and that with a STB Velocity 4MB video card, too | 14:09 |
| genii | I have built a netboot server which auto-installs currently 8.04 on them, registers the MAC and then next reboot they get incremental names/logins | 14:10 |
| ball | genii: that sounds like a sensible approach. Do they all have PXE firmware? | 14:11 |
| ball | ...or bootp at least? | 14:11 |
| genii | 256 seems optimal, according to our current testing. You can have browser, editor, IM and file manager all open without yet going into swap | 14:11 |
| genii | ball: Yes, the nics can pxeboot | 14:12 |
| ball | genii: Hmm... do I really want to spend US$ 20 on this box though? :-) | 14:12 |
| ball | hello crazygir | 14:13 |
| crazygir | hiya hiya! | 14:13 |
| crazygir | 8.10 is associated with which ubuntu version? I get lost in the silly names | 14:13 |
| crazygir | despite loving pixar | 14:13 |
| charlie-tca | genii: that sounds about right. I found that 256MB is about ideal for general use without too much limitations | 14:13 |
| genii | Intrepid Ibex | 14:13 |
| ball | Now, there's a Pentium III box beside me that could take 768 Mbytes. | 14:14 |
| ball | I think that's a better candidate for Xubuntu. | 14:14 |
| genii | charlie-tca: We found at 192 that swap starts to get used earlier | 14:14 |
| ball | (or would be, if I bought more RAM for it) | 14:14 |
| pleia2 | crazygir: debian is the one that has pixar names :) ubuntu is kinda arbitrary animals | 14:14 |
| genii | So since these boxes have 6.5Gb hd we wanted to minimize bottlenecks, etc | 14:14 |
| charlie-tca | genii: it does. but at one or two applications only at a time, it remained useable | 14:14 |
| charlie-tca | Unless one is Xchat. That seems to eat the memory | 14:15 |
| ball | 256 Mbytes PC100 ECC, US$ 30 | 14:15 |
| genii | charlie-tca: Yes. In xfce we used for benchmark: pidgen, firefox, abiword, and thunar | 14:15 |
| ball | czesc Riotta | 14:15 |
| ball | oops, missed him or her | 14:16 |
| reynante | xubuntu updated itself yesterday after installation and there are two choices when you press esc during grub bootup. how do i remove the older one | 14:17 |
| crazygir | pleia2: oh right. silly linux :P | 14:24 |
| crazygir | is pidgin 2.5.5 available for 8.10? i can't seem to get an updated package | 14:30 |
| charlie-tca | crazygir: I only show it at 2.5.2 | 14:35 |
| ball | kancerman: hey neigbour | 14:36 |
| crazygir | charlie-tca: ditto | 14:49 |
| ball | ooh... tea! | 14:49 |
| crazygir | how would I get 2.5.5? ICQ has updated their protocol, which 2.5.2 barfs on | 14:49 |
| * genii makes more coffee | 14:49 | |
| genii | Damned AOL | 14:49 |
| crazygir | they're all idiotic :P | 14:49 |
| genii | crazygir: http://www.getdeb.net/app/Pidgin has 2.5.5 | 14:51 |
| ball | genii: is your ISP a co-op? | 14:56 |
| genii | ball: Yes | 14:56 |
| genii | Since 1994 :) | 14:56 |
| ball | I've thought about doing something related down here, but on a much smaller scale of course. | 14:56 |
| crazygir | genii: I don't quite understand.. can this not be installed through the package manager? | 15:00 |
| * crazygir misses ports | 15:00 | |
| ball | crazygir: FreeBSD person? | 15:01 |
| crazygir | Open | 15:01 |
| ball | Ah okay. | 15:01 |
| * crazygir nods | 15:01 | |
| ball | NetBSD man myself. | 15:01 |
| crazygir | :) | 15:01 |
| ball | Trying to use Xubuntu and Ubuntu Server more these days though (for some things) | 15:02 |
| crazygir | I thought it was supposed to be simple :p | 15:04 |
| ball | It has been for me, except for the initial culture shock ;-) | 15:04 |
| crazygir | is it possible to install pidgin 2.5.5 with synaptic | 15:05 |
| crazygir | ? | 15:05 |
| crazygir | I like avoiding screwing with installing packages by hand | 15:05 |
| ball | what version do you get with "sudo apt-get install pidgin" ? | 15:06 |
| charlie-tca | You should be able to download it, double-click it to install | 15:06 |
| charlie-tca | or, Jaunty alpha 6 is coming 2009-03-12, and you could upgrade to jaunty and have it | 15:07 |
| charlie-tca | or, you could add the Jaunty universe repository to intrepid and then it should be able to upgrade itself | 15:08 |
| charlie-tca | but that might not work | 15:09 |
| crazygir | ball: 2.5.2 | 15:10 |
| ball | What does 2.5.5 offer over 2.5.2? | 15:11 |
| crazygir | ICQ changed their protocol | 15:11 |
| charlie-tca | ball: <crazygir> how would I get 2.5.5? ICQ has updated their protocol, which 2.5.2 barfs on | 15:12 |
| crazygir | thanks :) | 15:12 |
| ball | Ah, okay. | 15:12 |
| ball | I did see that earlier, but I wasn't paying attention. | 15:12 |
| * charlie-tca gonna slap attention to ball | 15:13 | |
| ball | charlie-tca: hey, I've got tea here so hopefully the caffeine will help. | 15:13 |
| charlie-tca | I'm sure it will. It always helps me. | 15:13 |
| * charlie-tca still working on the morning coffer | 15:13 | |
| genii | crazygir: Since 2.5.5 is not in official release yet, the only way currently is to manually install a .deb file, such as the one at getdeb.net. It's not so painful :) | 15:13 |
| charlie-tca | s/coffer/coffee | 15:14 |
| genii | When you d/l the deb file it whould prompt you to open it with gdebi or so, which will install it | 15:15 |
| charlie-tca | but, use Synaptic Package Manager to remove "pidgin-data" first. That will remove pidgin also | 15:16 |
| charlie-tca | Then you can install the pidgin files on the download page | 15:18 |
| ball | genii: so, once pidgin is officially released with support for the new protocol, then there will be a binary package for it? | 15:19 |
| genii | ball: Yes, I imagine it will be backported. So updates will just overwrite the getdeb version (unless it has been specifically pinned) | 15:20 |
| * ball isn't sure what all that means. | 15:20 | |
| charlie-tca | it just means that after installing 2.5.5 from debian, if xubuntu updates intrepid, it will still work | 15:22 |
| charlie-tca | unless you do some adjustments specifically telling Xubuntu not to touch the pidgin files | 15:23 |
| * charlie-tca thinks that is what genii said | 15:23 | |
| crazygir | genii: sure it is ;) | 15:26 |
| genii | charlie-tca: Yes, exactly | 15:28 |
| crazygir | genii: so when using these packages, I'm told to run sudo apt-get on the cmd line, which errors out with E: Couldn't find package pidgin-data_2.5.5-1~getdeb1_all.deb | 15:51 |
| ablomen | crazygir, sudo dpkg -i package.deb | 15:51 |
| genii | crazygir: If you are installing from command-line use instead: sudo dpkg -i pidgin-data_2.5.5-1~getdeb1_all.deb | 15:52 |
| crazygir | ah | 15:52 |
| * genii hands ablomen a coffee | 15:52 | |
| crazygir | -f is for fix, I assumed file | 15:52 |
| ablomen | heh | 15:52 |
| * charlie-tca thinks it is only for confusion | 15:53 | |
| crazygir | wow.. this is *wonderfully* sensible | 15:53 |
| crazygir | /end sarcasm | 15:54 |
| === bac is now known as bac_lunch | ||
| sekel | how do i upgrade to the new xfce? | 16:18 |
| sekel | how do i upgrade to the new XFCE? | 16:29 |
| charlie-tca | sekel: what version of xubuntu? | 16:30 |
| freego | sekel, what version of xfce? | 16:30 |
| charlie-tca | Jaunty has Xfce 4.6 already | 16:30 |
| sekel | hmmm | 16:30 |
| sekel | i dont know | 16:30 |
| sekel | :( | 16:30 |
| sekel | what is jaunty | 16:31 |
| charlie-tca | go to Applications -> About Xfce; click the infor tab | 16:31 |
| charlie-tca | What version does it give | 16:31 |
| sekel | just says xfcei have 4.4 | 16:31 |
| charlie-tca | Are you using Xubuntu? | 16:31 |
| sekel | yes | 16:31 |
| charlie-tca | 4.4.?? | 16:31 |
| freego | sekel, wich version? | 16:31 |
| freego | intrepid? | 16:31 |
| sekel | version 4.4.3 (Xfce 4.4) | 16:32 |
| sekel | xubuntu 8.10 | 16:32 |
| charlie-tca | Okay. You can get a copy here: Get it here: https://launchpad.net/~jerome-guelfucci/+archive/ppa . File the bugs against it and subcribe charlie-tca to them, please. | 16:32 |
| charlie-tca | oops. Do not file bugs on Launchpd. They must be filed on xfce.bugzilla.org instead | 16:33 |
| charlie-tca | nope. http://bugzilla.xfce.org/ | 16:33 |
| sekel | rthx | 16:34 |
| sekel | thx | 16:34 |
| brandonban6 | can't you just download 4.6 from xfce.org instead of running a distro upgrade? | 16:46 |
| charlie-tca | you can, but you may have to fight the packages more because of dependencies. The PPA has everything needed to make it work in Xubuntu | 16:48 |
| brandonban6 | ahh, I see. Does make sense. | 16:49 |
| charlie-tca | That's why it is not recommended to directly install it. It just doesn't work | 16:50 |
| brandonban6 | I find that with a few things in linux though.......it seems there are several things I have to arm wrestle...partly because I'm running ubuntu and in a windows environment at work (xubuntu at home). | 16:52 |
| sekel | i added the repo but it shows no upgrades for my system stil | 16:58 |
| charlie-tca | did you do apt-get update? | 16:59 |
| sekel | i did | 16:59 |
| sekel | :S | 16:59 |
| sekel | i didnt ad the key thingy though | 16:59 |
| sekel | odd | 17:02 |
| charlie-tca | Did you follow the instructions here: https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA#Adding%20a%20PPA%20to%20your%20Ubuntu%20repositories | 17:09 |
| charlie-tca | After adding the ppa and key, you should be able to sudo apt-get install xfce4-4.6.0pa1ĩntrepid1 | 17:11 |
| charlie-tca | I think | 17:11 |
| sinbox | I'm trying "sudo xinit -- :2" to test an edited xorg.conf but I just get errors any ideas? | 17:11 |
| sinbox | anyone can help me with forcing my screen resolution as my KVM is not passing the monitor's EDID correctly | 17:53 |
| genii | Temporarily bypass the kvm, install read-edid package, issue: sudo get-edid | parse-edid and use result to make a resolution entry in the xorg.conf. Then plug your kvm back in the middle. | 17:58 |
| sinbox | wil try that genii thanks, I already made some entry in xorg.conf though but it does not seem to force the resolution and won't give me more than 800x600, will report after trying your idea though | 18:06 |
| === bac_lunch is now known as bac | ||
| * brandonban6 is away: [Time to Grub] | 18:12 | |
| * brandonban6 is back (gone 00:09:56) | 18:22 | |
| Myrtti | ubottu: tell brandonban6 about away | 18:22 |
| ubottu | brandonban6, please see my private message | 18:22 |
| Myrtti | brandonban6: turn that off. | 18:23 |
| * charlie-tca thanks Myrtti | 18:23 | |
| brandonban6 | okay, thank you Myrtti | 18:25 |
| RurouniJones | Hoi all, which MP3 player / library app would you recommend for xubuntu? | 18:31 |
| charlie-tca | Listen Music Player is the default for Xubuntu | 18:31 |
| RurouniJones | Hmm, it isn't in my Multimedia menu section | 18:32 |
| charlie-tca | What version of Xubuntu? | 18:32 |
| RurouniJones | Hardy but I just found it in the repo, no worries. | 18:32 |
| basajaun | hi need help with compositor | 18:44 |
| knome | !ask | basajaun | 18:48 |
| ubottu | basajaun: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) | 18:48 |
| basajaun | I have used a script called Compiz-check was asked for the test if I wanted to turn compositor off , yes, but now the option has disappeared from window manager tweak | 18:51 |
| basajaun | how do I restore the WMT to its original settings with the compositor tab? | 18:52 |
| brandonban6 | RurouniJones, I really like banshee for mp3s if you want to explore other options :) | 18:54 |
| RurouniJones | Gracias | 19:02 |
| basajaun | After using Compiz-check script compositor tab has disappeared from window manager tweak how do I restore settings | 19:03 |
| Salix_ | Hello! How to convert all the SVG files (*.svg) to PNG files (*.png) the easiest way? | 19:22 |
| charlie-tca | imagemagik | 19:24 |
| knome | or inkscape command line | 19:24 |
| charlie-tca | sounds like "command line" either way | 19:25 |
| Salix_ | command line is OK | 19:25 |
| Salix_ | but using "convert *.svg *.png" gives me a bunch of strangely named png files :-/ | 19:25 |
| charlie-tca | knome knows more art stuff than me. I just stumble on it | 19:26 |
| knome | Salix_, inkscape --export-png=FILENAME | 19:27 |
| knome | Salix_, you might need to create some kind of loop to go through all the svg's | 19:27 |
| Salix_ | with a loop it was rather fast... but it's a pitty that I couldn't figure out how to do it otherwise | 19:38 |
| Salix_ | thanks anyway! | 19:38 |
| Salix_ | :-) | 19:38 |
| milkytoast | hello, I am having a problem with my screensaver. I am on an older system with an intel 82810E built on video card. I went poking around the screensavers when I selected antsearchlight, Xorg freeked out and started giving me odd color patterns on the screen. I do not have openGL enabled mainly because this card doesn't support it well and I don't really need it. I do need to know how to reset the screen saver to blank. Thank you | 19:42 |
| milkytoast | I did try ~/gconf/gnomescreensaver/%gconf.xml | 19:43 |
| milkytoast | but when I opened up the screensaver menu again it was back to antsearch light... and I had to reboot | 19:44 |
| knome | !screensaver | 19:44 |
| ubottu | Sorry, I don't know anything about screensaver | 19:44 |
| milkytoast | ok | 19:45 |
| milkytoast | !screensaver at the console? | 19:45 |
| ubottu | Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) | 19:45 |
| charlie-tca | what version of Xubuntu are you using? | 19:45 |
| milkytoast | 8.10 | 19:45 |
| charlie-tca | I am bringing it up, just a minute | 19:46 |
| batcoder-7 | did xubuntu ever fix that bloat problem it had with 8.04? | 19:51 |
| milkytoast | it seems like it to me, this runs fairly well on this older system | 19:53 |
| milkytoast | P3 700, 256MB of ram | 19:53 |
| basajaun | compositor tab gone any Ideas how to restore Window Manager Tweak? | 19:53 |
| n2diy | Hi long time Ubuntu user here. I just upgraded from Dapper to Hardy, and found it is a little challenging for my hardware, so I'm going to give Xubuntu a test drive, any tips or tricks I should be aware of before I start my journey? | 19:54 |
| milkytoast | what is your hardware? | 19:54 |
| n2diy | batcoder-7: what bloat problem? | 19:55 |
| batcoder-7 | it got much beffer in its last release | 19:56 |
| charlie-tca | milkytoast: I would try deleting ~/.gconf/apps/gnome-screensaver | 19:56 |
| n2diy | milkytoast: PIII/500mhz, 256m ram, 8.5g HD | 19:56 |
| charlie-tca | The screensaver will rebuild it, and it is the screensaver configuration file. | 19:56 |
| milkytoast | ahh | 19:57 |
| milkytoast | should I try and kill the screen saver daemon in case there are any saved preferences stored in it? | 19:57 |
| n2diy | nothing heard, away I go, hopefully I'll be chatting with you on Xubuntu, in half an hour or so. | 19:58 |
| charlie-tca | It shouldn't matter. | 19:58 |
| charlie-tca | n2diy: you are doing a fresh install? | 19:58 |
| n2diy | Whoops, not so fast, | 20:00 |
| n2diy | charlie-tca: umm, yes, over a fresh install of Ubuntu 8.04 | 20:00 |
| charlie-tca | basajaun: Might try removing and reinstalling xfwm4, which is the window manager | 20:01 |
| charlie-tca | You should be fine, as long as you are not just adding xubuntu-desktop to gnome. That would not allow the lighter resources to work | 20:01 |
| basajaun | charlie-tca: using synaptic? | 20:02 |
| charlie-tca | basajaun: I would log out, open a tty2 (ctrl+alt+f2), and use apt-get there | 20:02 |
| n2diy | how do I start the install from Busybox? Or, is there another way to start the install other than booting the Xubuntu disk? | 20:03 |
| charlie-tca | If you are overwriting the ubuntu partition, I don't know any way to do it from busybox | 20:04 |
| basajaun | k Charlie thanks will try that and uninstall command ? | 20:04 |
| charlie-tca | basajaun: sudo apt-get remove xfwm4 | 20:05 |
| charlie-tca | sudo apt-get install xfwm4 | 20:05 |
| charlie-tca | should remove and reinstall. wait a minute, let me look something up. | 20:05 |
| basajaun | k | 20:06 |
| n2diy | Ok, how do I install Xubuntu? | 20:08 |
| knome | n2diy, di you already have a ubuntu/kubuntu system? | 20:09 |
| n2diy | knome: yes, Ubuntu 8.04, on this box, and my test box. | 20:10 |
| charlie-tca | basajaun: okay, that should work. You may have to restart if the desktop won't come up for you | 20:10 |
| charlie-tca | n2diy: normally from a cd you burned the image to, just like ubuntu | 20:10 |
| basajaun | k charlie-tca thanks | 20:10 |
| basajaun | bye | 20:11 |
| charlie-tca | Good luck, basajaun | 20:11 |
| basajaun | ty | 20:11 |
| charlie-tca | !download | 20:11 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors - PLEASE use the !torrents to download Intrepid, and help keeping the servers' load low! | 20:11 |
| knome | fail | 20:11 |
| n2diy | charlie-tca: ok, but my cd is marked "boots to Busybox" is that normal? | 20:11 |
| charlie-tca | that kinda sucks | 20:11 |
| knome | http://xubuntu.org/get | 20:12 |
| charlie-tca | n2diy: no, is that an Xubuntu cd? | 20:12 |
| n2diy | charlie-tca: yes, but I haven't tried it in a long time, so maybe it is something wierd here, let me give it another try, thanks. | 20:12 |
| milky_ | well, didnt' work | 20:13 |
| milky_ | but I did delete it then rebooted the machine and that worked | 20:13 |
| w33d | hi | 20:14 |
| milky_ | thanks for you help | 20:14 |
| w33d | can somebode help mi with up my wlan0? | 20:14 |
| charlie-tca | so, milky_ you are back where you started with compositor missing? | 20:14 |
| charlie-tca | !somebody | w33d | 20:15 |
| ubottu | w33d: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? | 20:15 |
| w33d | :) | 20:15 |
| w33d | ok | 20:15 |
| milky_ | oh, I'm setup as milky and not milkytoast for some reason | 20:16 |
| w33d | does somebody speak polish? :D | 20:16 |
| milky_ | my problem was just wiht the screen-saver | 20:16 |
| knome | w33d, nope. and this is not a polish support channel anyway :P | 20:16 |
| charlie-tca | oh! | 20:16 |
| charlie-tca | !polish | 20:16 |
| ubottu | Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl | 20:16 |
| === milky_ is now known as milkytoast | ||
| knome | charlie-tca, ! you beat me | 20:17 |
| w33d | thx | 20:17 |
| * charlie-tca happy today | 20:17 | |
| * charlie-tca beat knome... he must have been daydreaming | 20:17 | |
| brandonban6 | lol, nice charlie-tca | 20:17 |
| knome | hehe | 20:17 |
| knome | maybe i'm just slower than normal today | 20:18 |
| charlie-tca | probably be another month before it happens again | 20:18 |
| knome | (or my content fetching script isn't working ;)) | 20:18 |
| charlie-tca | That's it! | 20:18 |
| knome | mmh, i think i'll rip some cd's | 20:19 |
| charlie-tca | I tried that. It cut my hands up | 20:19 |
| knome | lol | 20:19 |
| knome | is it weird that my "play cd" action is "sound-juicer" ? | 20:19 |
| charlie-tca | Depends on the xubuntu version. In jaunty, yes | 20:20 |
| knome | charlie-tca, is there a better ripper?! | 20:20 |
| charlie-tca | no, you upgraded instead of fresh install, right? | 20:20 |
| knome | upgrade, yes. | 20:20 |
| charlie-tca | probably normal, then | 20:20 |
| knome | that was mostly a theoretical/rhetorical question :P | 20:21 |
| charlie-tca | I don't know the cd ripper apps at all. | 20:21 |
| * charlie-tca wasted the answer again. | 20:21 | |
| knome | i know grip and sound-juicer. that's all | 20:21 |
| knome | grip is good but it seems to have some nasty bugs and it's not maintained anymore. | 20:22 |
| charlie-tca | I turned some into mp3's, and don't know what I used to do that even | 20:22 |
| charlie-tca | I tried to do some more, but couldn't find the app I used. | 20:22 |
| w33d | who can i connetc to wifi? i config essid, key wep | 20:25 |
| w33d | and still not connected | 20:25 |
| charlie-tca | You have to unplug the network cable, I think. | 20:26 |
| charlie-tca | a little help here, on wireless, please | 20:26 |
| basajaun | vanished compositor tab in Window Manager Tweak | 20:27 |
| charlie-tca | still missing, basajaun ? | 20:27 |
| w33d | charlie-tca i have unplug | 20:28 |
| basajaun | yes charlie-tca just rebooted after un/re-installing xfwm4 | 20:28 |
| charlie-tca | We just have to wait for somebody else to help, w33d | 20:28 |
| w33d | problem is that im noob, | 20:29 |
| w33d | its my firts time with linux | 20:29 |
| n2diy | Ok, I tried installing Xubuntu, and it boots to Busybox, "initramfs" prompt? | 20:30 |
| charlie-tca | n2diy: that cd may be bad. Did it pass integrity check? | 20:30 |
| n2diy | charlie-tca: no, the check boots to the same thing. | 20:31 |
| charlie-tca | Then it is a bad image. You need to download and burn the iso again | 20:31 |
| n2diy | charlie-tca: ok, drat, no blank CDs, can I burn it to DVD, and boot from that? | 20:32 |
| charlie-tca | yes, it should work the same | 20:32 |
| charlie-tca | But if it doesn't pass the cd integrity check, it also won't install, normally | 20:33 |
| n2diy | charlie-tca: ok, roger that, thanks. | 20:33 |
| charlie-tca | Good luck | 20:33 |
| knome | how do i rip a DVD audio disc? | 20:36 |
| milkytoast | might want md5 the CD image as well | 20:39 |
| milkytoast | n2diy | 20:39 |
| * charlie-tca seems to have used up all of his answers. May as well give up now | 20:49 | |
| basajaun | not sure what to do now | 20:49 |
| charlie-tca | never give up. Just ask again later. More people will be around, maybe one will have the anser | 20:50 |
| charlie-tca | s/anser/answer | 20:50 |
| knome | basajaun, so you lack some compiz option? | 20:50 |
| knome | basajaun, or compiz broke something? | 20:50 |
| basajaun | not really knome , I have used a script to test my machine and I stupidly accepted that the script would stop compositor but now..... | 20:52 |
| knome | the xfwm compositor? | 20:52 |
| charlie-tca | The whole tab is missing from window manager tweaks, knome | 20:53 |
| knome | right. | 20:54 |
| basajaun | the script is caller Compiz-check , test if a computer can run compiz and says found a compositor cannot test... do you want to stop compositor | 20:55 |
| knome | basajaun, where did you download that? | 20:55 |
| basajaun | there http://forlong.blogage.de/entries/pages/Compiz-Check knome | 20:57 |
| knome | ok, let me see | 20:57 |
| knome | basajaun, waht happens if you run 'xfwm4' from terminal? | 20:59 |
| superdump | hello | 21:02 |
| superdump | this is a general question but i'm not sure where else to ask | 21:02 |
| knome | !hi | superdump | 21:02 |
| ubottu | superdump: Hi! Welcome to #xubuntu! | 21:02 |
| basajaun | xfwm4:8252 warning Another window manager is already running | 21:02 |
| knome | !somebody | superdump | 21:02 |
| ubottu | superdump: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? | 21:02 |
| knome | basajaun, ok. | 21:02 |
| knome | basajaun, suppose you have tried booting already? | 21:02 |
| basajaun | yes knome | 21:03 |
| superdump | knome: :) don't worry, i will. /me is an ffmpeg dev | 21:03 |
| basajaun | and I have de/re-installed xfwm4 from tty2 | 21:03 |
| knome | basajaun, what does your ~/.config/xfce4/mcs_settings/wmtweaks.xml say? there should be an option "Xfwm/UseCompsiting" | 21:04 |
| superdump | i installed a machine a while ago and didn't create a separate home partition for whatever reason. now i want to reinstall the OS on the machine but before i do that i want to back up the home dir to another machine on my lan preserving ownership, permissions, etc etc so when the OS is set up again, i can copy everything back | 21:04 |
| superdump | i'm guessing using rsync for this would be good (i'm not a linux sys admin ;)) | 21:04 |
| knome | basajaun, UseCompositing, of course. | 21:04 |
| superdump | but the rsync man page lists a lot of options, so it's difficult to know which to use | 21:05 |
| superdump | i found something suggesting -varpltz and run it as root, but that spat a lot of permissions errors | 21:05 |
| superdump | which makes it useless | 21:05 |
| superdump | does anyone have any suggestions? | 21:05 |
| knome | not really. use ssh? ;) | 21:06 |
| superdump | (to make this vaguely on topic, i'm fed up of my parents' pc running kubuntu because 4.1 is horrible so i'm making them use xubuntu instead) | 21:06 |
| basajaun | Use Compositing? | 21:06 |
| knome | basajaun, let me pastebin mine. | 21:07 |
| basajaun | ok | 21:07 |
| knome | basajaun, the first two lines are removed: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/129524/ | 21:08 |
| knome | basajaun, see line 23 | 21:08 |
| charlie-tca | superdump: rsync auREq /FROM/DIRECTORY/ /TO/DIRECTORY will copy all files including hidden files | 21:08 |
| superdump | ok | 21:08 |
| knome | basajaun, maybe if you set that to 1 you might get the tab back. | 21:08 |
| charlie-tca | The R option says use relative pathnames, so it will set them to the partition | 21:09 |
| superdump | and preserve all permissions, ownership and timestamps regardless of the user conducting the rsync command? (assuming they have permissions to copy the files) | 21:09 |
| charlie-tca | If you include a 'n' it will dry run the rsync so you can see what it will do | 21:09 |
| superdump | ok | 21:10 |
| charlie-tca | I would then delete most of the hidden files, if you don't mind reconfiguring everything, to avoid incompatibility with kde and xubuntu | 21:10 |
| charlie-tca | (applies mostly to .config and .cache and .gconf types | 21:11 |
| basajaun | knome: its is on 1 | 21:11 |
| knome | basajaun, ok. do you have xfce4-mcs-plugins-extra installed? | 21:12 |
| knome | basajaun, you might try to purge remove it and reinstall. | 21:12 |
| knome | basajaun, also xfce4-mcs-manager and xfce4-settings | 21:13 |
| basajaun | what the commands? | 21:13 |
| basajaun | are the commands | 21:14 |
| basajaun | knome from tty? | 21:16 |
| basajaun | I ĺl try that | 21:17 |
| superdump | charlie-tca: thanks | 21:20 |
| superdump | have fun peoples | 21:20 |
| basajaun | knome: using aptitude purge? | 21:23 |
| knome | basajaun, apt-get --purge remove ... | 21:24 |
| knome | basajaun, or from synaptic with removing completely | 21:24 |
| basajaun | k thanks | 21:25 |
| basajaun | Ill do that now | 21:25 |
| knome | yeah. | 21:25 |
| basajaun | hi | 21:50 |
| basajaun | knome: no joy un/re-installed xfce4 mcs manager and plug-ins | 21:51 |
| basajaun | still not copositing | 21:51 |
| basajaun | jinxed | 21:51 |
| basajaun | compositing | 21:51 |
| basajaun | I guess | 22:15 |
| _Pete_ | !usb | 22:16 |
| ubottu | For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent | 22:16 |
| knome | basajaun, ok... | 22:16 |
| knome | JPohlmann, maybe you knw why compositor tab has disappeared from the settings manager? | 22:16 |
| basajaun | lol | 22:17 |
| knome | basajaun, why lol? he's our xfce liaison. | 22:18 |
| Myrtti | ♥ JPohlmann | 22:19 |
| knome | Myrtti, yes. | 22:19 |
| basajaun | was just a nervous laugh | 22:19 |
| knome | Myrtti, https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-devel/2008-September/006528.html | 22:19 |
| basajaun | been staring at screen for a while | 22:19 |
| Myrtti | knome: yes? | 22:20 |
| basajaun | no offense mean and I d love to know | 22:20 |
| Myrtti | knome: you're not exactly telling me anything new here ;-) | 22:20 |
| knome | Myrtti, nevermind. :P | 22:20 |
| knome | Myrtti, why ? then? :P | 22:20 |
| Myrtti | knome: just wondering where you're getting at since you should know that I preeetty much know all that already ;-P | 22:21 |
| Myrtti | nevermind :-D | 22:21 |
| Myrtti | I'm feeling jovial as today is a painfree day | 22:21 |
| knome | Myrtti, hah. :) onnea | 22:21 |
| _TuGa_ | hello i'm about to install xubuntu on a lapi with 4gb ram can anyone please tell me what should be the swap part size? | 22:21 |
| Myrtti | _TuGa_: do you plan to use hiberation on the computer? | 22:22 |
| knome | +n | 22:22 |
| knome | ;P | 22:22 |
| Myrtti | though, in my case painfree is a relative term as my right lower limb is never ok, but anyway... | 22:23 |
| knome | yeah. my back hurt sooooo much earlier. | 22:23 |
| Myrtti | I'm only on my second year with this :-/ | 22:24 |
| knome | i really should go to sleep. i was snoring already at 8pm when i lying down to fill a crossword | 22:24 |
| knome | +wnet | 22:24 |
| knome | d'oh! | 22:24 |
| knome | good night. :) | 22:24 |
| Myrtti | nini knome | 22:25 |
| knome | see you later. | 22:25 |
| knome | basajaun, good luck :) | 22:25 |
| basajaun | thanks knome | 22:25 |
| basajaun | thanks for taking the time | 22:26 |
| basajaun | getting cross eyed bye all | 22:27 |
| wrinkliez | ah, maybe you guys can help me. ive been messing around with the new xfce power manager and i cant figure out if there is a way to actually dim my screen? | 22:34 |
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| ferdi | hi everyone what is the differnece xubuntu-desktop and xubuntu-alternate ?? | 23:26 |
| charlie-tca | xubuntu-desktop cd is also a live cd. It has a graphical installer | 23:27 |
| David-A | ferdi: alternate has text-based install and need less memory during install | 23:27 |
| charlie-tca | xubuntu-alternate needs less memory to install Xubuntu. | 23:27 |
| ferdi | can i use alternete with wubi?? | 23:28 |
| ferdi | and after installation do i need to do something for wireless?? | 23:29 |
| ferdi | may wireless card is broadcom it works in ubuntu in default | 23:29 |
| charlie-tca | I don't believe you can use the alternate cd with wubi, but I have never used wubi | 23:30 |
| charlie-tca | If the card works in Ubuntu, it should work in Xubuntu also | 23:30 |
| charlie-tca | We remove gnome desktop and add Xfce desktop | 23:30 |
| ferdi | charlie-tca, Xfce isn't it default? | 23:32 |
| ferdi | i want to use Xfce | 23:33 |
| charlie-tca | Xfce is the default installed desktop environment in Xubuntu | 23:33 |
| charlie-tca | But most of the underlying operating system is the same as Ubuntu | 23:33 |
| ferdi | ohh you remove gnome desktop and add Xfce desktop in ubutnu , right? | 23:33 |
| charlie-tca | yes | 23:34 |
| charlie-tca | with a few more changes, but that is the major difference | 23:34 |
| ferdi | why dou you do this i mean why don't you just downlad xubuntu | 23:34 |
| charlie-tca | That is xubuntu | 23:34 |
| charlie-tca | That's why if your wireless worked in Ubuntu, it should work in Xubuntu | 23:35 |
| ferdi | no no you say we delete gnome after add Xfice im saying why you do this Xfce is default in xubuntu | 23:35 |
| charlie-tca | I'm sorry, I seem to have worded that wrong then. | 23:36 |
| ferdi | why you donwload ubuntu than remove gnome add xubuntu at the begining just donwload xbuntu ?? | 23:36 |
| charlie-tca | no | 23:36 |
| charlie-tca | Ubuntu uses gnome desktop environment. Xubuntu uses Xfce desktop environment | 23:36 |
| ferdi | =) ok | 23:37 |
| ferdi | thanlk you | 23:37 |
| charlie-tca | You are welcome | 23:37 |
| ferdi | BTW yes i can use WUBI with xubuntu-desktop | 23:46 |
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