[00:06] hello, i'm back again and i have a problem while i want to install a Realtec Ethenet driver. I have postet de output with the error here http://paste.ubuntu.com/129008/ [00:07] the error i english is: install: regular File ?/lib/modules/2.6.27-11-generic/kernel/drivers/net/r8101.ko? cannot been shown: Permission denied [00:09] maybe the problem is that exactly those realtec driver is already installed in xubuntu? [00:59] anyone used skype w/ xubuntu on machine < P4? (i.e. P3 ~500 MHz)? any problems/issues? [02:17] can someone tell me why there are six different printing applets in xubuntu? [02:17] http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/9706/printinghell.png [02:19] if one doesn't work, maybe the other will? It makes setting up printing easier... [02:19] zoredache: having to choose between 6 different applets to print or set up a printer doesn't make much sense. [02:20] * zoredache wonders if people realized he was trying to be sarcastic.... [02:20] haha... no, i didn't, sorry. [02:20] j1mc: yeah.. [03:31] help question? [03:32] i got a IBM600e laptop with xubuntu 8.04 and it freezes loading up for about 5 minutes, then it finishes loading to my desktop [03:33] how an i solve this problem?/ [04:15] greetings I just installed xubuntu 8.10 and have run amock a few problems and i was wondering if anyone else had these problems. I think they are caused by my manual installation of the 96.43.11 drivers. anyone else having problems after installing the NVIDIA-Linux-x86-96.43.11-pkg1.run file? [07:07] morning === rocko is now known as wget === wget is now known as vlc === vlc is now known as gxine [09:08] Hello, how to install xubuntu in a text mode virtual console other than X11 graphic environment ? [09:08] Is there any command like setup to get a text mode GUI ? [09:09] hii all [09:09] need help [09:09] Xubuntu in VirtualBiox [09:10] i remove networkmanager* packages [09:11] How to get a plain text mode GUI for xubuntu installation in a virtual console ? [09:53] hello everyone [09:53] i got a biiiig problem. PLZ HELp!!!!! [09:53] the top line (menu) and the bottom line on the desktop has dissapeared [09:53] what's going on? [09:54] plz i need it desperately!!!! [09:55] how to get them back? [09:55] the X11 got crazy when booting from live CD [09:56] hey umm can anyone help me out, im kinda new to xubuntu (new to linux as whole actually) and i want to configure proxy in xubuntu but i dunno how [09:56] i didn't boot them from live cd [10:02] nvm go t it [10:24] Pip, use alternate install cd, that installs in text mode [10:34] hello [10:35] i removed .gnome and .gconf directories to get default gnome configuration, but it doesn't restore it!! [10:35] what should i do to get default gnome back? [10:37] pingvinas, .gnome2 has all the gnome settings .gnome is only there for backwards compatibility afaik [10:41] albomen_, i don't have gnome2 [10:42] ablomen, is it in /etc/ [10:56] ablomen_ how to get the .gconf directory back? [10:57] pingvinas, .gnome2, not gnome2 [10:57] pingvinas, how did you remove it, with rm or some file manager? [10:57] rm [10:58] since i was told that after restarting it will configure the defaults automatically [10:58] now i don't have the default setting neither do i have .gnome or .gconf [10:59] taw, do you know how can i get the desktop panels back and the configuration directories? [10:59] shall i resinstall xubuntu or is there any easier solution? [10:59] sure there is [10:59] are you talking about gnome or xfce? [11:00] what shall i do then? please help, taw. i am not a professional but i need it desperatelly [11:00] can you get terminal somehow? [11:00] sorry, but i don't know the difference between the two. [11:00] yes, i can get the terminal [11:01] i got it [11:01] what shall i do next? [11:01] run ' xfce4-panel &' [11:01] wow, i got it back!!! :) [11:02] now how can i get the .conf and .gnome folders back? [11:02] thanks!!! [11:02] taw! [11:02] now just add applets you need, and log out with 'save session' box checked [11:02] yeah, i will do that. will it restore the .gnome and .gconf folders? [11:03] any idea why you need them? [11:04] i get a warning window about the gnone config when the computer starts and it began after i deleted the .conf and .gnome [11:04] but i will restart now with 'save session' and see what happens [11:04] plz, don't quit for a while taw, i get back [11:06] taw, i get the error message that configuration defaults for gnome power manager have not been installed properly and that i should contact the administrator [11:06] at least this would work: [11:07] 1) boot to recovery mode [11:07] (on grub you get meny by pressing esc, I think) [11:07] how can i boot to recovery mode? [11:07] on grub menu you have that [11:08] you mean at the login window? [11:08] for very short period it says something like press esc to get menu [11:08] no no, before you get kernel loaded [11:08] oh ok [11:08] and then? [11:09] after i boot to recovery [11:09] ? [11:09] there might be some text-mode menu [11:09] ok [11:09] you take shell [11:09] on shell [11:09] cd /home [11:10] ok [11:10] and then? [11:10] here I assume your accoutn is uzer, replace it with your actual loginname [11:10] mv uzer uzer.org [11:10] mkdir uzer [11:10] chown uzer: uzer [11:10] exit [11:10] reboot [11:10] login with your account [11:11] should create all again [11:11] so i need to write uzer uzer.org? why is that .org? [11:11] i mean: mv uzer uzer.org [11:11] ? [11:11] then you can move or copy files & folders from ../uzer.org to your new home directory [11:12] you rename your old home directory [11:12] and make new, empty directory [11:13] so now my home directory is "migi", so i rename it to "migi.org" and then i create new "migi" and then move everything back from "migi.org" to "migi" right?> [11:13] when you log in with empty home directory, it's like login first time [11:13] yes [11:13] and that migi.org can be migi.this_was_before_everyhting_blow_up or what ever you want [11:13] now one important question: is there any danger to the data on my computer? i have some really important things without back up, which i don't want to love [11:14] to lose [11:14] that's why we mv, not rm [11:14] ok, and then i move everything when i get back to kernel? [11:15] and chown uzer: uzer is for what? [11:15] to make you the directory owner, without that root would own that, and you would not have write permission to it [11:16] oh ok [11:16] when moving everything back, be carefull [11:16] why? [11:16] so that you won't copy something old, broken over newly created working ones [11:17] and how can i move everything back? [11:17] I would do: [11:17] cd ../migi.org [11:17] mv -i * ~ [11:17] mv -i .* ~ [11:18] and that's it? [11:18] and on every question 'overwrite ....' answer is no [11:18] man mv [11:18] so i should write '*~' without space? [11:19] no [11:19] ~ is your home dir [11:19] so i should write '* home'? [11:19] you can also say 'mv -i * ../migi/' yif you feel better with it [11:20] oh i see now [11:20] and i should do that in shell too? [11:20] yes [11:20] and then write 'man mv'? [11:21] and after that 'exit'? [11:21] you can do same thing in graphical file manager also if you feel more comfortable with it [11:21] i will do it in shell i guess [11:22] that 'man mv ' is only if you want to know what that mv -i means [11:22] so after 'mv -i * ../migi/' i should write 'exit' directly? [11:22] you want to do that 'mv -i .* ~' also [11:22] yes [11:23] and then exit? [11:23] if you want [11:23] or you can leave shell open [11:23] and then i get back to kernel? [11:23] ok i try now [11:23] thanks a lot taw! [11:24] wait [11:24] ?? [11:24] you can run those 'mv' commands in terminal, as youself, doesn't need to be root [11:25] ok so no i go to recovery mode, then "cd /home" then "mv migi migi.org", then "mkdir migi", then "chown migi: migi", exit and then do the "mv" commands in terminal back in kernel, right? [11:27] is that right? [11:27] taw? [11:27] your usage of 'kernel' word is correct [11:29] sorry? [11:29] what you mean with 'kernel' ? [11:29] i mean back to desktop [11:30] 'ok so no i go to recovery mode, then "cd /home" then "mv migi migi.org", then "mkdir migi", then "chown migi: migi", exit and then do the "mv" commands in terminal back in desktop' [11:30] yes, that's correct [11:30] ok [11:30] thanks a lot, taw [11:30] no prob [11:56] taw, it doesn't work anyway. it didn't create new .gconf or .gnome [11:57] so i don't know how to get those directories back [11:58] is your xubuntu upgraded from some earlier version? [11:59] i think it's the last one [11:59] how can i check? [11:59] i just installed it two months ago or so [11:59] ok then, if you know you haven't upgraded form one version to another [12:00] ' ... from one ...' [12:00] but would it make any difference? [12:00] so i should type ' ... from one ... ' in terminal? [12:01] I was just thinking if those directories were created with old distribution, and aren't really used anymore [12:01] but you still have some problem, what was the error? [12:02] it says on start up that the gnome configuration power adapter is wrecked [12:02] power adaptor or something... [12:02] on menu, take 'settings -> power management' [12:03] it says 'the configuration defaults for GNOME power manager have not been isntalled correctly [12:03] ' [12:03] so it's something with power adapter [12:04] any idea how to solve this problem? [12:07] have you tried google? [12:07] no, not yet [12:08] looking, but can't find anything [12:10] http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-980711.html [12:10] first hit with search 'the configuration defaults for GNOME power manager have not been isntalled correctly' [12:13] shall i try to reinstall it? [12:13] 'apt-get --reinstall install gnome-power-manager' in terminal? [12:15] 'sudo' in front of that [12:15] yeah, do you think i should do that? [12:16] yes [12:19] taw, it still says the same error [12:20] it's probably because i removed .gconf and .gnome [12:20] since before that it was ok [12:22] config defaults and use .gnome and .gconfd are different thing [12:22] I would suspect reason is something else [12:22] but gotta go [12:37] hi. i am trying to delete some (lots and lots) if files from a usb drive. for some reason the default action seems to be to move the files into the trash on my computer. is there a way to have it bypass that and just delete them directly form the usb drive? [13:00] cannot log into xcfe4 any tips? [13:00] i am using ubuntu 8.10 with kubuntu and xubuntu desktops [13:06] dixon2081: any error messages? [13:06] no [13:06] it goes right back to the log in screen [13:26] how would i set xcfe4 back to defaults thru terminal, what codes do i need to enter? [13:28] delete ~/.config/xfce4 and ~/.config/xfce4-session and restart the system. That will delete all changes you have made to it. [13:37] my listen music player does not play my mp3s continuously, how do i fix this? [13:37] after playing a song, it will not play the next song [13:38] Are they all listed in the playlist on the left? [13:39] yes [13:39] its in full display mode [13:40] i got a bash with that command you gave me [13:40] reynante: I don't know enough about it. wel will see if someone else can answer [13:40] left side is the album, right sides are the songs [13:40] dixon20811: what do you mean you got a bash? [13:40] maybe the player hates avril lavigne [13:40] :) [13:41] reynante: maybe? [13:41] well it said it could not remove the file [13:43] That is probably the problem, then. If you were in your HOME directory, you should be the owner and able to remove them [13:43] perhaps kubuntu changed permissions [13:43] idk [13:43] i just had to set kde back to default [13:44] now im trying to set gnome back to default [13:44] and then xfce4 back to default [13:45] charlie-tca, got it, the file needs to be enqueued [13:45] great. glad you got it. [13:45] <-- windows fanboy [13:46] <--- hates windows [13:46] not yet familiar with the new additions of xubuntu [13:46] well i got it thru sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop [13:46] with ubuntu 8.10 [13:46] well we can't do away with windows, adobe cs3 programs, autocad, 3dstudio max and stuff [13:47] <- has had success with wine :) [13:48] well if you configure and maintain win xp right, you can run it with a p3 machine with 128mb ram [13:48] although xubuntu would run faster :) [13:48] :) [13:49] <- likes ubuntu, kubuntu and xubuntu, but likes xubuntu the best :) [13:49] of all the buntus, i like xubuntu best too [13:49] :) [13:49] ubuntu = 2 hand broad sword , xubuntu = katana [13:50] :) [13:50] windows = bastard sword :p [13:51] brb [13:51] gotta c if something worked... [13:52] I just gave Xubuntu a plug on the Illinois school tech geeks mailing list. [13:52] ...because I like it. [13:53] Thank you, ball [13:53] good news is always welcome [13:53] charlie-tca: No problem. Someone on there asked what OS to run on a Pentium III box. [13:54] ...so I offered up my vote. [13:54] A low-overhead one ;) [13:54] Easy question, huh? [13:54] Ah, now I get to read other people's suggestions. [13:55] I wonder what "Zenwalk" is. [13:55] Ah, someone else suggested Ubuntu [13:55] I think I would prefer Xubuntu even on a faster box. [13:56] For many people the xfce desktop confuses them, I've found [13:56] I'm trialling Xfce at a site about 130 miles S. of here. [13:57] That's not being done on Xubuntu yet though. [13:57] I should say "preparing to trial" [13:58] At the moment their desktops are running on a server with NetBSD, but I've done it on Ubuntu Server before now too. [13:58] At one of my jobs we are putting Xubuntu on about 2500 old p2 boxes [13:58] genii: There's a 300 MHz Celeron Covington box behind me. [13:58] Hehe, nice [13:58] I tried installing Ubuntu Server on it last night, but the installer wouldn't work with the display adaptor. [13:59] genii: I've had to press it into service as a test rig, to replace my 800 MHz Pentium III box that died. [13:59] genii, wish i can help you install xubuntu [13:59] 2500 units = thats quite a handful [14:00] what are they for? school? [14:00] Oh good! Someone else plugged Xubuntu too! [14:00] Ideally it'll become the default school OS for Illinois :-) [14:01] reynante: We got them from city hall, old office boxes (Dell GX1) . The place I am working for is a community based ISP. So we are putting Xubuntu, with old dialup modems and giving them away to ppl without computers and internet, etc. [14:01] Wait, you said 2,500 ?! [14:01] wow, thats great genii [14:01] ball: Yes. We had over 3,000 but some were no good and got stripped [14:02] if people shared like this, i dont think that life would be hard [14:02] genii: how will they connect to your ISP? Via POTS? [14:02] ball: Yup [14:02] genii: do you have a bank of analogue modems, or something like a T-1 line? [14:02] linux will the backbone of things when shtf [14:02] ball: We have 2 PRI [14:03] genii: both for inbound calls, or is one a trunk to the Internet? [14:03] ball: Both for incoming, one line reserved for incoming system access only for terminal to the routers, servers, etc [14:04] genii: where are you btw? [14:04] ball: Toronto, Canada [14:04] HAH! I knew it! [14:04] wish i can migrate to canada :) [14:05] reynante: that's on my "to-do" list [14:05] then work with genii to help install xubuntu [14:05] ball, where are you from? [14:05] reynante: I'm British, but I live in Illinois, USA [14:05] ah [14:05] im pinoy, from the philippines [14:06] Once I have this disk ready, I should try installing Xubuntu on this box. It's possible the installer doesn't suffer the same problem as Ubuntu Server [14:07] It probably wants more than 192 Mbytes RAM though. [14:08] ...the most this box will take is 256M [14:08] ball: I have tested Jaunty in 128MB ram. Using the alternate cd, you can install and run fine in 192MB [14:08] (a little slow, maybe) [14:09] and that with a STB Velocity 4MB video card, too [14:10] I have built a netboot server which auto-installs currently 8.04 on them, registers the MAC and then next reboot they get incremental names/logins [14:11] genii: that sounds like a sensible approach. Do they all have PXE firmware? [14:11] ...or bootp at least? [14:11] 256 seems optimal, according to our current testing. You can have browser, editor, IM and file manager all open without yet going into swap [14:12] ball: Yes, the nics can pxeboot [14:12] genii: Hmm... do I really want to spend US$ 20 on this box though? :-) [14:13] hello crazygir [14:13] hiya hiya! [14:13] 8.10 is associated with which ubuntu version? I get lost in the silly names [14:13] despite loving pixar [14:13] genii: that sounds about right. I found that 256MB is about ideal for general use without too much limitations [14:13] Intrepid Ibex [14:14] Now, there's a Pentium III box beside me that could take 768 Mbytes. [14:14] I think that's a better candidate for Xubuntu. [14:14] charlie-tca: We found at 192 that swap starts to get used earlier [14:14] (or would be, if I bought more RAM for it) [14:14] crazygir: debian is the one that has pixar names :) ubuntu is kinda arbitrary animals [14:14] So since these boxes have 6.5Gb hd we wanted to minimize bottlenecks, etc [14:14] genii: it does. but at one or two applications only at a time, it remained useable [14:15] Unless one is Xchat. That seems to eat the memory [14:15] 256 Mbytes PC100 ECC, US$ 30 [14:15] charlie-tca: Yes. In xfce we used for benchmark: pidgen, firefox, abiword, and thunar [14:15] czesc Riotta [14:16] oops, missed him or her [14:17] xubuntu updated itself yesterday after installation and there are two choices when you press esc during grub bootup. how do i remove the older one [14:24] pleia2: oh right. silly linux :P [14:30] is pidgin 2.5.5 available for 8.10? i can't seem to get an updated package [14:35] crazygir: I only show it at 2.5.2 [14:36] kancerman: hey neigbour [14:49] charlie-tca: ditto [14:49] ooh... tea! [14:49] how would I get 2.5.5? ICQ has updated their protocol, which 2.5.2 barfs on [14:49] * genii makes more coffee [14:49] Damned AOL [14:49] they're all idiotic :P [14:51] crazygir: http://www.getdeb.net/app/Pidgin has 2.5.5 [14:56] genii: is your ISP a co-op? [14:56] ball: Yes [14:56] Since 1994 :) [14:56] I've thought about doing something related down here, but on a much smaller scale of course. [15:00] genii: I don't quite understand.. can this not be installed through the package manager? [15:00] * crazygir misses ports [15:01] crazygir: FreeBSD person? [15:01] Open [15:01] Ah okay. [15:01] * crazygir nods [15:01] NetBSD man myself. [15:01] :) [15:02] Trying to use Xubuntu and Ubuntu Server more these days though (for some things) [15:04] I thought it was supposed to be simple :p [15:04] It has been for me, except for the initial culture shock ;-) [15:05] is it possible to install pidgin 2.5.5 with synaptic [15:05] ? [15:05] I like avoiding screwing with installing packages by hand [15:06] what version do you get with "sudo apt-get install pidgin" ? [15:06] You should be able to download it, double-click it to install [15:07] or, Jaunty alpha 6 is coming 2009-03-12, and you could upgrade to jaunty and have it [15:08] or, you could add the Jaunty universe repository to intrepid and then it should be able to upgrade itself [15:09] but that might not work [15:10] ball: 2.5.2 [15:11] What does 2.5.5 offer over 2.5.2? [15:11] ICQ changed their protocol [15:12] ball: how would I get 2.5.5? ICQ has updated their protocol, which 2.5.2 barfs on [15:12] thanks :) [15:12] Ah, okay. [15:12] I did see that earlier, but I wasn't paying attention. [15:13] * charlie-tca gonna slap attention to ball [15:13] charlie-tca: hey, I've got tea here so hopefully the caffeine will help. [15:13] I'm sure it will. It always helps me. [15:13] * charlie-tca still working on the morning coffer [15:13] crazygir: Since 2.5.5 is not in official release yet, the only way currently is to manually install a .deb file, such as the one at getdeb.net. It's not so painful :) [15:14] s/coffer/coffee [15:15] When you d/l the deb file it whould prompt you to open it with gdebi or so, which will install it [15:16] but, use Synaptic Package Manager to remove "pidgin-data" first. That will remove pidgin also [15:18] Then you can install the pidgin files on the download page [15:19] genii: so, once pidgin is officially released with support for the new protocol, then there will be a binary package for it? [15:20] ball: Yes, I imagine it will be backported. So updates will just overwrite the getdeb version (unless it has been specifically pinned) [15:20] * ball isn't sure what all that means. [15:22] it just means that after installing 2.5.5 from debian, if xubuntu updates intrepid, it will still work [15:23] unless you do some adjustments specifically telling Xubuntu not to touch the pidgin files [15:23] * charlie-tca thinks that is what genii said [15:26] genii: sure it is ;) [15:28] charlie-tca: Yes, exactly [15:51] genii: so when using these packages, I'm told to run sudo apt-get on the cmd line, which errors out with E: Couldn't find package pidgin-data_2.5.5-1~getdeb1_all.deb [15:51] crazygir, sudo dpkg -i package.deb [15:52] crazygir: If you are installing from command-line use instead: sudo dpkg -i pidgin-data_2.5.5-1~getdeb1_all.deb [15:52] ah [15:52] * genii hands ablomen a coffee [15:52] -f is for fix, I assumed file [15:52] heh [15:53] * charlie-tca thinks it is only for confusion [15:53] wow.. this is *wonderfully* sensible [15:54] /end sarcasm === bac is now known as bac_lunch [16:18] how do i upgrade to the new xfce? [16:29] how do i upgrade to the new XFCE? [16:30] sekel: what version of xubuntu? [16:30] sekel, what version of xfce? [16:30] Jaunty has Xfce 4.6 already [16:30] hmmm [16:30] i dont know [16:30] :( [16:31] what is jaunty [16:31] go to Applications -> About Xfce; click the infor tab [16:31] What version does it give [16:31] just says xfcei have 4.4 [16:31] Are you using Xubuntu? [16:31] yes [16:31] 4.4.?? [16:31] sekel, wich version? [16:31] intrepid? [16:32] version 4.4.3 (Xfce 4.4) [16:32] xubuntu 8.10 [16:32] Okay. You can get a copy here: Get it here: https://launchpad.net/~jerome-guelfucci/+archive/ppa . File the bugs against it and subcribe charlie-tca to them, please. [16:33] oops. Do not file bugs on Launchpd. They must be filed on xfce.bugzilla.org instead [16:33] nope. http://bugzilla.xfce.org/ [16:34] rthx [16:34] thx [16:46] can't you just download 4.6 from xfce.org instead of running a distro upgrade? [16:48] you can, but you may have to fight the packages more because of dependencies. The PPA has everything needed to make it work in Xubuntu [16:49] ahh, I see. Does make sense. [16:50] That's why it is not recommended to directly install it. It just doesn't work [16:52] I find that with a few things in linux though.......it seems there are several things I have to arm wrestle...partly because I'm running ubuntu and in a windows environment at work (xubuntu at home). [16:58] i added the repo but it shows no upgrades for my system stil [16:59] did you do apt-get update? [16:59] i did [16:59] :S [16:59] i didnt ad the key thingy though [17:02] odd [17:09] Did you follow the instructions here: https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA#Adding%20a%20PPA%20to%20your%20Ubuntu%20repositories [17:11] After adding the ppa and key, you should be able to sudo apt-get install xfce4-4.6.0pa1ĩntrepid1 [17:11] I think [17:11] I'm trying "sudo xinit -- :2" to test an edited xorg.conf but I just get errors any ideas? [17:53] anyone can help me with forcing my screen resolution as my KVM is not passing the monitor's EDID correctly [17:58] Temporarily bypass the kvm, install read-edid package, issue: sudo get-edid | parse-edid and use result to make a resolution entry in the xorg.conf. Then plug your kvm back in the middle. [18:06] wil try that genii thanks, I already made some entry in xorg.conf though but it does not seem to force the resolution and won't give me more than 800x600, will report after trying your idea though === bac_lunch is now known as bac [18:12] * brandonban6 is away: [Time to Grub] [18:22] * brandonban6 is back (gone 00:09:56) [18:22] ubottu: tell brandonban6 about away [18:22] brandonban6, please see my private message [18:23] brandonban6: turn that off. [18:23] * charlie-tca thanks Myrtti [18:25] okay, thank you Myrtti [18:31] Hoi all, which MP3 player / library app would you recommend for xubuntu? [18:31] Listen Music Player is the default for Xubuntu [18:32] Hmm, it isn't in my Multimedia menu section [18:32] What version of Xubuntu? [18:32] Hardy but I just found it in the repo, no worries. [18:44] hi need help with compositor [18:48] !ask | basajaun [18:48] basajaun: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [18:51] I have used a script called Compiz-check was asked for the test if I wanted to turn compositor off , yes, but now the option has disappeared from window manager tweak [18:52] how do I restore the WMT to its original settings with the compositor tab? [18:54] RurouniJones, I really like banshee for mp3s if you want to explore other options :) [19:02] Gracias [19:03] After using Compiz-check script compositor tab has disappeared from window manager tweak how do I restore settings [19:22] Hello! How to convert all the SVG files (*.svg) to PNG files (*.png) the easiest way? [19:24] imagemagik [19:24] or inkscape command line [19:25] sounds like "command line" either way [19:25] command line is OK [19:25] but using "convert *.svg *.png" gives me a bunch of strangely named png files :-/ [19:26] knome knows more art stuff than me. I just stumble on it [19:27] Salix_, inkscape --export-png=FILENAME [19:27] Salix_, you might need to create some kind of loop to go through all the svg's [19:38] with a loop it was rather fast... but it's a pitty that I couldn't figure out how to do it otherwise [19:38] thanks anyway! [19:38] :-) [19:42] hello, I am having a problem with my screensaver. I am on an older system with an intel 82810E built on video card. I went poking around the screensavers when I selected antsearchlight, Xorg freeked out and started giving me odd color patterns on the screen. I do not have openGL enabled mainly because this card doesn't support it well and I don't really need it. I do need to know how to reset the screen saver to blank. Thank you [19:43] I did try ~/gconf/gnomescreensaver/%gconf.xml [19:44] but when I opened up the screensaver menu again it was back to antsearch light... and I had to reboot [19:44] !screensaver [19:44] Sorry, I don't know anything about screensaver [19:45] ok [19:45] !screensaver at the console? [19:45] Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [19:45] what version of Xubuntu are you using? [19:45] 8.10 [19:46] I am bringing it up, just a minute [19:51] did xubuntu ever fix that bloat problem it had with 8.04? [19:53] it seems like it to me, this runs fairly well on this older system [19:53] P3 700, 256MB of ram [19:53] compositor tab gone any Ideas how to restore Window Manager Tweak? [19:54] Hi long time Ubuntu user here. I just upgraded from Dapper to Hardy, and found it is a little challenging for my hardware, so I'm going to give Xubuntu a test drive, any tips or tricks I should be aware of before I start my journey? [19:54] what is your hardware? [19:55] batcoder-7: what bloat problem? [19:56] it got much beffer in its last release [19:56] milkytoast: I would try deleting ~/.gconf/apps/gnome-screensaver [19:56] milkytoast: PIII/500mhz, 256m ram, 8.5g HD [19:56] The screensaver will rebuild it, and it is the screensaver configuration file. [19:57] ahh [19:57] should I try and kill the screen saver daemon in case there are any saved preferences stored in it? [19:58] nothing heard, away I go, hopefully I'll be chatting with you on Xubuntu, in half an hour or so. [19:58] It shouldn't matter. [19:58] n2diy: you are doing a fresh install? [20:00] Whoops, not so fast, [20:00] charlie-tca: umm, yes, over a fresh install of Ubuntu 8.04 [20:01] basajaun: Might try removing and reinstalling xfwm4, which is the window manager [20:01] You should be fine, as long as you are not just adding xubuntu-desktop to gnome. That would not allow the lighter resources to work [20:02] charlie-tca: using synaptic? [20:02] basajaun: I would log out, open a tty2 (ctrl+alt+f2), and use apt-get there [20:03] how do I start the install from Busybox? Or, is there another way to start the install other than booting the Xubuntu disk? [20:04] If you are overwriting the ubuntu partition, I don't know any way to do it from busybox [20:04] k Charlie thanks will try that and uninstall command ? [20:05] basajaun: sudo apt-get remove xfwm4 [20:05] sudo apt-get install xfwm4 [20:05] should remove and reinstall. wait a minute, let me look something up. [20:06] k [20:08] Ok, how do I install Xubuntu? [20:09] n2diy, di you already have a ubuntu/kubuntu system? [20:10] knome: yes, Ubuntu 8.04, on this box, and my test box. [20:10] basajaun: okay, that should work. You may have to restart if the desktop won't come up for you [20:10] n2diy: normally from a cd you burned the image to, just like ubuntu [20:10] k charlie-tca thanks [20:11] bye [20:11] Good luck, basajaun [20:11] ty [20:11] !download [20:11] Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors - PLEASE use the !torrents to download Intrepid, and help keeping the servers' load low! [20:11] fail [20:11] charlie-tca: ok, but my cd is marked "boots to Busybox" is that normal? [20:11] that kinda sucks [20:12] http://xubuntu.org/get [20:12] n2diy: no, is that an Xubuntu cd? [20:12] charlie-tca: yes, but I haven't tried it in a long time, so maybe it is something wierd here, let me give it another try, thanks. [20:13] well, didnt' work [20:13] but I did delete it then rebooted the machine and that worked [20:14] hi [20:14] thanks for you help [20:14] can somebode help mi with up my wlan0? [20:14] so, milky_ you are back where you started with compositor missing? [20:15] !somebody | w33d [20:15] w33d: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? [20:15] :) [20:15] ok [20:16] oh, I'm setup as milky and not milkytoast for some reason [20:16] does somebody speak polish? :D [20:16] my problem was just wiht the screen-saver [20:16] w33d, nope. and this is not a polish support channel anyway :P [20:16] oh! [20:16] !polish [20:16] Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl === milky_ is now known as milkytoast [20:17] charlie-tca, ! you beat me [20:17] thx [20:17] * charlie-tca happy today [20:17] * charlie-tca beat knome... he must have been daydreaming [20:17] lol, nice charlie-tca [20:17] hehe [20:18] maybe i'm just slower than normal today [20:18] probably be another month before it happens again [20:18] (or my content fetching script isn't working ;)) [20:18] That's it! [20:19] mmh, i think i'll rip some cd's [20:19] I tried that. It cut my hands up [20:19] lol [20:19] is it weird that my "play cd" action is "sound-juicer" ? [20:20] Depends on the xubuntu version. In jaunty, yes [20:20] charlie-tca, is there a better ripper?! [20:20] no, you upgraded instead of fresh install, right? [20:20] upgrade, yes. [20:20] probably normal, then [20:21] that was mostly a theoretical/rhetorical question :P [20:21] I don't know the cd ripper apps at all. [20:21] * charlie-tca wasted the answer again. [20:21] i know grip and sound-juicer. that's all [20:22] grip is good but it seems to have some nasty bugs and it's not maintained anymore. [20:22] I turned some into mp3's, and don't know what I used to do that even [20:22] I tried to do some more, but couldn't find the app I used. [20:25] who can i connetc to wifi? i config essid, key wep [20:25] and still not connected [20:26] You have to unplug the network cable, I think. [20:26] a little help here, on wireless, please [20:27] vanished compositor tab in Window Manager Tweak [20:27] still missing, basajaun ? [20:28] charlie-tca i have unplug [20:28] yes charlie-tca just rebooted after un/re-installing xfwm4 [20:28] We just have to wait for somebody else to help, w33d [20:29] problem is that im noob, [20:29] its my firts time with linux [20:30] Ok, I tried installing Xubuntu, and it boots to Busybox, "initramfs" prompt? [20:30] n2diy: that cd may be bad. Did it pass integrity check? [20:31] charlie-tca: no, the check boots to the same thing. [20:31] Then it is a bad image. You need to download and burn the iso again [20:32] charlie-tca: ok, drat, no blank CDs, can I burn it to DVD, and boot from that? [20:32] yes, it should work the same [20:33] But if it doesn't pass the cd integrity check, it also won't install, normally [20:33] charlie-tca: ok, roger that, thanks. [20:33] Good luck [20:36] how do i rip a DVD audio disc? [20:39] might want md5 the CD image as well [20:39] n2diy [20:49] * charlie-tca seems to have used up all of his answers. May as well give up now [20:49] not sure what to do now [20:50] never give up. Just ask again later. More people will be around, maybe one will have the anser [20:50] s/anser/answer [20:50] basajaun, so you lack some compiz option? [20:50] basajaun, or compiz broke something? [20:52] not really knome , I have used a script to test my machine and I stupidly accepted that the script would stop compositor but now..... [20:52] the xfwm compositor? [20:53] The whole tab is missing from window manager tweaks, knome [20:54] right. [20:55] the script is caller Compiz-check , test if a computer can run compiz and says found a compositor cannot test... do you want to stop compositor [20:55] basajaun, where did you download that? [20:57] there http://forlong.blogage.de/entries/pages/Compiz-Check knome [20:57] ok, let me see [20:59] basajaun, waht happens if you run 'xfwm4' from terminal? [21:02] hello [21:02] this is a general question but i'm not sure where else to ask [21:02] !hi | superdump [21:02] superdump: Hi! Welcome to #xubuntu! [21:02] xfwm4:8252 warning Another window manager is already running [21:02] !somebody | superdump [21:02] superdump: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? [21:02] basajaun, ok. [21:02] basajaun, suppose you have tried booting already? [21:03] yes knome [21:03] knome: :) don't worry, i will. /me is an ffmpeg dev [21:03] and I have de/re-installed xfwm4 from tty2 [21:04] basajaun, what does your ~/.config/xfce4/mcs_settings/wmtweaks.xml say? there should be an option "Xfwm/UseCompsiting" [21:04] i installed a machine a while ago and didn't create a separate home partition for whatever reason. now i want to reinstall the OS on the machine but before i do that i want to back up the home dir to another machine on my lan preserving ownership, permissions, etc etc so when the OS is set up again, i can copy everything back [21:04] i'm guessing using rsync for this would be good (i'm not a linux sys admin ;)) [21:04] basajaun, UseCompositing, of course. [21:05] but the rsync man page lists a lot of options, so it's difficult to know which to use [21:05] i found something suggesting -varpltz and run it as root, but that spat a lot of permissions errors [21:05] which makes it useless [21:05] does anyone have any suggestions? [21:06] not really. use ssh? ;) [21:06] (to make this vaguely on topic, i'm fed up of my parents' pc running kubuntu because 4.1 is horrible so i'm making them use xubuntu instead) [21:06] Use Compositing? [21:07] basajaun, let me pastebin mine. [21:07] ok [21:08] basajaun, the first two lines are removed: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/129524/ [21:08] basajaun, see line 23 [21:08] superdump: rsync auREq /FROM/DIRECTORY/ /TO/DIRECTORY will copy all files including hidden files [21:08] ok [21:08] basajaun, maybe if you set that to 1 you might get the tab back. [21:09] The R option says use relative pathnames, so it will set them to the partition [21:09] and preserve all permissions, ownership and timestamps regardless of the user conducting the rsync command? (assuming they have permissions to copy the files) [21:09] If you include a 'n' it will dry run the rsync so you can see what it will do [21:10] ok [21:10] I would then delete most of the hidden files, if you don't mind reconfiguring everything, to avoid incompatibility with kde and xubuntu [21:11] (applies mostly to .config and .cache and .gconf types [21:11] knome: its is on 1 [21:12] basajaun, ok. do you have xfce4-mcs-plugins-extra installed? [21:12] basajaun, you might try to purge remove it and reinstall. [21:13] basajaun, also xfce4-mcs-manager and xfce4-settings [21:13] what the commands? [21:14] are the commands [21:16] knome from tty? [21:17] I ĺl try that [21:20] charlie-tca: thanks [21:20] have fun peoples [21:23] knome: using aptitude purge? [21:24] basajaun, apt-get --purge remove ... [21:24] basajaun, or from synaptic with removing completely [21:25] k thanks [21:25] Ill do that now [21:25] yeah. [21:50] hi [21:51] knome: no joy un/re-installed xfce4 mcs manager and plug-ins [21:51] still not copositing [21:51] jinxed [21:51] compositing [22:15] I guess [22:16] <_Pete_> !usb [22:16] For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent [22:16] basajaun, ok... [22:16] JPohlmann, maybe you knw why compositor tab has disappeared from the settings manager? [22:17] lol [22:18] basajaun, why lol? he's our xfce liaison. [22:19] ♥ JPohlmann [22:19] Myrtti, yes. [22:19] was just a nervous laugh [22:19] Myrtti, https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-devel/2008-September/006528.html [22:19] been staring at screen for a while [22:20] knome: yes? [22:20] no offense mean and I d love to know [22:20] knome: you're not exactly telling me anything new here ;-) [22:20] Myrtti, nevermind. :P [22:20] Myrtti, why ? then? :P [22:21] knome: just wondering where you're getting at since you should know that I preeetty much know all that already ;-P [22:21] nevermind :-D [22:21] I'm feeling jovial as today is a painfree day [22:21] Myrtti, hah. :) onnea [22:21] <_TuGa_> hello i'm about to install xubuntu on a lapi with 4gb ram can anyone please tell me what should be the swap part size? [22:22] _TuGa_: do you plan to use hiberation on the computer? [22:22] +n [22:22] ;P [22:23] though, in my case painfree is a relative term as my right lower limb is never ok, but anyway... [22:23] yeah. my back hurt sooooo much earlier. [22:24] I'm only on my second year with this :-/ [22:24] i really should go to sleep. i was snoring already at 8pm when i lying down to fill a crossword [22:24] +wnet [22:24] d'oh! [22:24] good night. :) [22:25] nini knome [22:25] see you later. [22:25] basajaun, good luck :) [22:25] thanks knome [22:26] thanks for taking the time [22:27] getting cross eyed bye all [22:34] ah, maybe you guys can help me. ive been messing around with the new xfce power manager and i cant figure out if there is a way to actually dim my screen? === _TuGa_ is now known as TuGA === TuGA is now known as _TuGa === _TuGa is now known as TuGa [23:26] hi everyone what is the differnece xubuntu-desktop and xubuntu-alternate ?? [23:27] xubuntu-desktop cd is also a live cd. It has a graphical installer [23:27] ferdi: alternate has text-based install and need less memory during install [23:27] xubuntu-alternate needs less memory to install Xubuntu. [23:28] can i use alternete with wubi?? [23:29] and after installation do i need to do something for wireless?? [23:29] may wireless card is broadcom it works in ubuntu in default [23:30] I don't believe you can use the alternate cd with wubi, but I have never used wubi [23:30] If the card works in Ubuntu, it should work in Xubuntu also [23:30] We remove gnome desktop and add Xfce desktop [23:32] charlie-tca, Xfce isn't it default? [23:33] i want to use Xfce [23:33] Xfce is the default installed desktop environment in Xubuntu [23:33] But most of the underlying operating system is the same as Ubuntu [23:33] ohh you remove gnome desktop and add Xfce desktop in ubutnu , right? [23:34] yes [23:34] with a few more changes, but that is the major difference [23:34] why dou you do this i mean why don't you just downlad xubuntu [23:34] That is xubuntu [23:35] That's why if your wireless worked in Ubuntu, it should work in Xubuntu [23:35] no no you say we delete gnome after add Xfice im saying why you do this Xfce is default in xubuntu [23:36] I'm sorry, I seem to have worded that wrong then. [23:36] why you donwload ubuntu than remove gnome add xubuntu at the begining just donwload xbuntu ?? [23:36] no [23:36] Ubuntu uses gnome desktop environment. Xubuntu uses Xfce desktop environment [23:37] =) ok [23:37] thanlk you [23:37] You are welcome [23:46] BTW yes i can use WUBI with xubuntu-desktop