[07:18] <yao_ziyuan> GROUNDBREAKING NEWS! the latest QtCurve widget style for KDE4/KDE3/GTK2 has evolved to a KDE4 Oxygen-like look'n'feel! now it also fits well with a KDE4-ish window decoration such as Ozone and Bespin. Screenshot: http://i43.tinypic.com/2s60t4j.png
[10:12] <Riddell> seele: I'm away this weekend
[10:58] <davmor2> Riddell: Is the nepomuk getting fixed :)
[11:01] <Riddell> davmor2: there's a new backend.  JontheEchidna did you look into that at all?
[11:18]  * hunger would really like seeing a nepomuk that does more than eat all available disc space:-)
[11:19] <davmor2> hunger: I'd just like to not have to report it any more as a bug :)
[11:28] <hunger> Is akonadi expected to work in jaunty?
[11:38] <seele> Riddell: you marked nothing for monday, tuesday, and wednesday as well
[11:45] <Riddell> seele: it only offered until sunday
[11:46] <Riddell> seele: mm, you're right, there's a scrollbar, how clever
[11:47] <seele> ...
[11:53] <Riddell> the other days are all fine
[11:54] <Riddell> hunger: yes it ought to
[11:54] <seele> OK, looks like Tuesday early evening CET then
[12:17] <Riddell> hmm, ubiquity is lacking word wrap on a label on the user setup page
[12:39] <JontheEchidna> Riddell: virtuoso itself looks quite "interesting" the package. There is also an ITP for it at Debian and about 2 or 3 guys with it in their ppas...
[12:39] <JontheEchidna> then one would probably have to backport the soprano backend itself from trunk
[13:24] <smarter> hmm
[13:25] <smarter> Am I the only one which can't configure KDE sounds(eg. login sound) in systemsettings --> notifications ?
[13:25] <smarter> http://www.imagebam.com/image/123db027768141/ << I don't have that choice in the combobo
[13:25] <smarter> x
[13:44] <smarter> I get a lot more choices there(including KDE thingy) if I launch systemsettings as root, strange
[14:49] <Mamarok> smarter: ditto for me, all my hardware is outgreyed, no sound at all, since I switched to Jaunty
[14:50] <Mamarok> and with an earlier version I was able to do the settings without being root
[14:50] <smarter> Mamarok: but hardware stuff is in multimedia, not nofication no?
[14:51] <Mamarok> nope, all the hardware in multimedia is greyed out, and everytime I start I get a question if I want to deactivate the sound cards as the "seemed to be removed"
[14:52] <Mamarok> also, since several days, no way to use the package manager in system settings as before, now it only works, if I start system settings as root
[14:52] <Mamarok> and it worked before :(
[14:57] <Mamarok> asking me the password once the service is started
[15:04] <Quintasan> Hmm How do I add the main toolbar (the one with, Tools, Settings menus) in Konq? I've accidentaly removed it :S
[15:25] <Lure> is it just me, or does quassel does not work for channel join?
[15:25] <EgS> what do you mean?
[15:25]  * Lure cannot join #kde-windows, maybe for reason ;-)
[15:25] <Lure> EgS: join channel action does nothing
[15:25] <EgS> yes channels matching *windows* are blocked
[15:26] <EgS> Lure: what does the status buffer say? (the network item)
[15:26] <Lure> EgS: nothing
[15:26] <EgS> weired...
[15:26] <EgS> and when you try it manually? /join #kde-windows
[15:27] <Lure> EgS: ups, it was hidden
[15:28] <Lure> EgS: it seems I have hide it permanently months ago...
[15:28] <Lure> EgS: maybe join should auto-unhide, just to be less confusing
[15:28] <smarter> try closing a chan
[15:28] <Lure> for stupid users like me ;-)
[15:29] <EgS> Lure: hmm... perhaps if there is only one channel list configured
[15:30] <EgS> if you have multiple channel lists / buffer views you probably don't want it to pop back in a particular one
[15:45] <jussi01> EgS: maybe in the last used chanlist then...
[15:46] <EgS> in the what?
[15:47] <jussi01> EgS: if you have multiple buffer views/chanlists then it could re appear in the last one you clicked on...
[15:49] <EgS> OIC
[15:50] <ScottK> EgS: This is the problem with users.  They give you feedback and then you have more work to do ...
[15:51]  * Sput still thinks we should have one bufferview declared as the "main" one
[15:51] <Sput> that would also be the one shortcuts like prev/next would refer to
[15:51] <Sput> voila, problem solved, kthxbai
[15:58]  * ScottK would be in favor of that.
[16:10] <alex-weej> hello. the qt apps in ubuntu (gnome) jaunty don't respect fontconfig settings for at least hinting
[16:10] <alex-weej> any ideas?
[16:11] <alex-weej> everything is fully hinted with the BCI hinter
[16:11] <alex-weej> but fontconfig and gtk says unhinted
[16:25] <nixternal> I will take one of everything -> https://usshop.ubuntu.com/category.php?catid=7
[16:25] <nixternal> figures they add the shop when money == $0 for me :(
[16:30] <apachelogger> I am wondering if my kubuntu stickers already arrived
[16:43] <nixternal> if I was getting any, I know mine haven't arrived
[16:45] <yuriy> ooh nice lots of stickers
[17:07] <Nightrose> seele: do you plan to write an email to the list about the meeting?
[17:10] <seele> Nightrose: ah, yes.. didn't get to it yet
[17:10] <Nightrose> ok
[17:10] <Nightrose> no prob
[21:24] <Lure> Riddell, ScottK: what is the procedure to get rid of libkexiv2-3 (KDE3 version), as no package is depending on it anymore?
[21:25] <ScottK> Lure: File a removal bug.  There's a discussion of it in one of the wikipages.
[21:27] <Lure> ScottK: found it - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/PackageArchive
[21:27] <ScottK> Sounds right.
[21:27] <ScottK> I still can't find stuff after dholbach reorganized the wiki a year and a half ago.
[21:29] <nhandler> ScottK: I just bookmark most of the Development wiki pages. I then use the new FF3 address bar to find the wiki pages I want
[21:29] <Lure> ScottK: I still cannot recall things that I knew and did 1 year ago ;-)
[21:30] <ScottK> nhandler: I find I mostly depend on browser history and Google.  I can't remember the last time I actually bookmarked something.
[21:32]  * claydoh needs to loose weight, the Kubuntu tees on the ubuntu store are too small or me :(
[21:38] <JontheEchidna> vorian: wanna get another 13k emails by fixing bug 330069? :D
[21:39] <JontheEchidna> maybe we should consider removing the old ones too
[21:48] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: I'll upload it for you.
[21:54] <shtylman_> will the 'deprecationwarning' with bazaar be fixed anytime soon?
[22:18] <Riddell> shtylman: ask in #bzr
[22:18] <Riddell> shtylman: there's a label on the user setup page which needs word wrap turned on, or a line space inserted or something
[22:20] <shtylman> Riddell: (just patch the bzr thing myself) (already fixed the label and the merge is proposed with other bugfixes)
[22:21] <Riddell> rocking
[22:22] <Riddell> shtylman: the timezone widget would be much improved if it had a label showing where the mouse would choose when clicked
[22:34] <_r1_> hi
[22:35] <nhandler> Hi _r1_
[23:04] <jussi01> hrm... I dont have a restart and logout anymore, and the shutdown doesnt actually work...  did someone break something?
[23:06] <neversfelde> jussi01: I have the same problems with twinview and jaunty, but not on a machine with a single screen
[23:06] <JontheEchidna> jussi01_: It could be nvidia borkage, there's been a lot of that going around
[23:06] <neversfelde> also nvidia
[23:06] <jussi01> ok, that makes sense, I have nvidia with twinview...
[23:06]  * JontheEchidna presents bug 341430 as the results of today's work
[23:07] <JontheEchidna> Feature Freeze is a bitch :(
[23:09]  * Lure knows the feeling - I am struggling with bug 309684
[23:10] <jussi01> ooh, new kernel today... maybe thatll fix it...
[23:10] <JontheEchidna> Ouch, have fun
[23:11] <JontheEchidna> jussi01_: the latest drivers which ubuntu don't haz should fix a bunch of KDE-type issues
[23:11] <JontheEchidna> such as hoards of zombie processes
[23:11] <jussi01> JontheEchidna: they are fixing that`??? \o/
[23:12] <JontheEchidna> bug 335879
[23:12] <JontheEchidna> I assume some nvidia-ksmserver-related funkiness is causing the logout problems
[23:13] <jussi01> heh... Im just updating to .35 - the problems are prior to that...
[23:13] <jussi01> but anyway, 1am and I have work in the morning
[23:13] <Lure> JontheEchidna: qtcurve looks nice - looking to FFe approval
[23:13] <Lure> s/looking/looking forward/
[23:14]  * Lure needs to go to bed ;-)
[23:14] <JontheEchidna> hehe
[23:15] <JontheEchidna> Yeah, I prefer it to gtk-qt-engine + Oxygen. It even looks oxygenish in the first place so it fits, somewhat
[23:15] <JontheEchidna> annoying gtk-qt-engine bugs--