[00:00] <compilerwriter> ?
[00:01] <compilerwriter> !man irssi
[00:01] <tmeixner_> nop, mp3 doesnt work either. That would be a nice feature.
[00:02] <peaches> tmeixner_: i just notice i always get one for mp3.. maybe it is filetype i just didnt notice.. im on svn compiled tho
[00:02] <compilerwriter> ?
[00:02] <compilerwriter> l
[00:02] <socceroos> !man woman
[00:02] <socceroos> that'd be right.........
[00:02] <compilerwriter> exit
[00:03] <tmeixner_> peaches: but I just realized the hover +/- multiple file select in Dolphin. what a smart idea actually
[00:03] <peaches> tmeixner_: in theory anyway .. i still havent gotten used to it heh
[00:04] <tmeixner_> well, its my first day on KDE today so I have a lot to get used to anyway :-)
[00:04] <peaches> tmeixner_: ill tell you what's the best feature since sliced bread though.. it's dolphin's column mode
[00:05] <tmeixner_> yes - I know this from MacOSX
[00:06] <van> someone could help me please, i have ths message when i try to go in my dvd drive : Feature only avaiable with HAL
[00:06] <tmeixner_> but I think I like Dolphin better, I just found you can have a commandline under your dolphin as well.
[00:07] <peaches> van: dunno try starting/installing hal
[00:07] <van> peaches: what package is it?
[00:07] <peaches> van: hal
[00:08] <van> apt-get install hal doesnt exist
[00:08] <peaches> i just found out that the dockable windows can be docked to tabs, apparently for all qt programs too
[00:09] <tmeixner_> which version are you on peaches?
[00:09] <peaches> van: should be.. that's a little too weird if it doesnt http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=names&keywords=hal
[00:09] <peaches> tmeixner_: kubuntu intrepid
[00:11] <van> ok but wich hal do you want me to install?
[00:11] <MrLDK> anyone knows how to set the keep alive interval?
[00:11] <van> and yes i have hal installed
[00:11] <MrLDK> sorry, anyone knows how to set the keep alive interval on Konversation?
[00:13] <peaches> van: it doesn't exist or it is installed..?
[00:14] <fjallagyldir> hej there
[00:14] <fjallagyldir> stuck in trouble with 9.10
[00:14] <fjallagyldir> SIS graphics and no widescreen 1680x1050 possible
[00:14] <peaches> tmeixner_: actually no, the Qt is not intrepid's, version 4.5.0
[00:15] <goofey> fjallagyldir: 9.10 doesn't exists in any form but on paper
[00:15] <fjallagyldir> ohh sry ment 9.03
[00:15] <goofey> fjallagyldir: 9.04 is alpha still
[00:16] <fjallagyldir> yes ok
[00:16] <fjallagyldir> now i got it
[00:16] <fjallagyldir> nvertheless same prob
[00:16] <goofey> fjallagyldir: it's alpha - there's no support
[00:17] <fjallagyldir> thats right but maybe someone has some ideas ...
[00:17] <goofey> fjallagyldir: you can file a bug report - make sure it get's fixed in the next 2 months
[00:18] <fjallagyldir> not sure if its a bug or there exist an error between screen and chair ...
[00:19] <goofey> fjallagyldir: :)  Sorry I don't know the answer
[00:19] <fjallagyldir> np thanks anywas
[00:19] <fjallagyldir> -s +y
[00:29] <compilerwriter> help I have somehow broken xwindows.
[00:44] <bishopz> !recording
[00:45] <bishopz> damn
[00:45] <bishopz> anyone know any good studio programs for ubuntu?
[00:48] <Wargasm> studio?
[00:49] <casinowarren> anyone here ever worked with virtual box?
[00:50] <casinowarren> i need help setting it up
[00:50] <v3ctor> casinowarren: try #vbox
[00:51] <casinowarren> ok cool
[00:51] <casinowarren> i'll do that
[00:52] <casinowarren> my next question, is I downloaded and installed the .deb package for gimpshop can anyone help me find out where it's at?
[00:52] <casinowarren> it's not showing up in my menu bar...neither is my LMMS program
[00:55] <bishopz> !ardour
[01:00] <bishopz> has anyone in here ever used ardour?
[01:00] <casinowarren> i have
[01:00] <casinowarren> it's a great program
[01:00] <casinowarren> what you need help with?
[01:01] <bishopz> im trying to built some sort of recording studio on this linux machine
[01:01] <bishopz> is it capable of like adobe audtion and what not?
[01:03] <kuaera> Hrm. Is there anything to style your Qt3 programs with your Qt4 engine?
[01:03] <bongfrog> Anyone a guru on 8.10 and KDE 4.2?   I seem to have hosed up my main user and hate life at the moment
[01:04] <casinowarren> try ubuntustudio, or studio 64
[01:04] <casinowarren> both of those distros are great at multimedia
[01:05]  * bongfrog uses ubuntustudio with Arduor and all is well.......
[01:05] <casinowarren> yeah, it comes with everything you need to record audio, mix and master
[01:05] <bongfrog> And more plugins that a kid could ever want.......
[01:05] <bishopz> Nice. Im looking at it now. lol, so far seems like it would pwn adobe
[01:06] <bishopz> ubuntustudio?
[01:06] <bongfrog> ubuntustudio is a multimedia spin of ubuntu.   Everything configured for you.....
[01:07] <bishopz> Oh sweet
[01:07] <bishopz> there a apt-get for it?
[01:07] <bishopz> im fairly new to linux as far as USING it
[01:08] <bishopz> basics im good at ;x
[01:08] <bongfrog> or you could download the iso and install that way.....
[01:09] <bishopz> Grr I was trying to be lazy rofl
[01:09] <bishopz> Dling it now
[01:09] <casinowarren> yeah...it's a big file, you'll need to burn it to dvd
[01:09] <casinowarren> i just recorded my 6th mixtape using ubuntu studio
[01:10] <bishopz> im gonna put it on my spare flash dive
[01:10] <casinowarren> i've recorded, mixed, mastered and DJ'd every one of them with no issue
[01:10] <bishopz> yea im trying to rebuilt my studio slowly on here, i draft at home, then hit the studio with it
[01:10] <casinowarren> this will allow you everything you need to have a studio at home
[01:11] <bishopz> but i had an linux/windows dual boot issue and tux beat the dog snot out of windows ;x
[01:11] <bishopz> now im strictly linux
[01:11] <bishopz> lol
[01:11] <shadowhywind> does anyone know how to fix a plasma crash on login?
[01:11] <bishopz> cool thanks alot man
[01:12] <casinowarren> np
[01:12] <bongfrog> Anyone able to help me with a KDE 4.2 issue?   My main users is nuked and on login kwin does not run (even from a alt-f2).
[01:12] <casinowarren> if you need further help with ubuntustudio, let me know
[01:12] <bishopz> true i will.
[01:15] <shadowhywind> bongfrog: what was your issue?
[01:16] <BluesKaj> bongfrog ,  sudo invoke-rc.d kdm start
[01:17] <casinowarren> can anyone tell me how to get my gimpshop working in my kubuntu 8.10
[01:17] <casinowarren> i can't find it anywhere
[01:20] <atomx> can anyone help me get my wireless working on an acer aspire one net book?
[01:21] <atomx> anyone at all?
[01:21] <atomx> hmmmm
[01:21] <atomx> is there anyone here?
[01:21] <atomx> take that as a no, well thanks everyone, I have been fighting with this thing all day, going back to windows now.
[01:22] <GWild> sorry -
[01:22] <GWild> don't user wireless
[01:22] <GWild> back to Windows!?....
[01:22] <atomx> yes
[01:22] <atomx> back to windows
[01:23] <atomx> it seams to be more friendly with all the hardware
[01:23] <fjallagyldir> re
[01:23] <kuaera> atomx: Your patience lasted one minute, too.
[01:23] <atomx> I have tryed every walkthrough I could find
[01:23] <atomx> no I have been fighting with it all day
[01:23] <atomx> I have looked through all the ubuntu fourms I could find
[01:24] <fjallagyldir> back again with same issu as before but now witch 8.10 version: no Xresolution widescreen with 1680x1050
[01:25] <kuaera> atomx: Your wireless card appears to require a proprietary driver.
[01:25] <atomx> arthos
[01:25] <fjallagyldir> can anyone in here tell me how to configure X proberly
[01:25] <BluesKaj> atomx , describe ' fighting with '
[01:25] <kuaera> atomx: So, now you've given us some information to work with.
[01:26] <atomx> fighting with, you know trying to get it to work and so far nothing has
[01:27] <atomx> I have followed the what I am assuming to be the offical ubuntu guide here "https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AspireOne"
[01:28] <GWild> fjallagyldir: you shouldn't really need to configure X - Kub does quite a good job on it's own
[01:28] <BluesKaj> atomx , perhaps you could describe to us what you did when "trying to get it to work"
[01:28] <GWild> fjallagyldir: What is your issue exactly?
[01:28] <fjallagyldir> well i have here a widescreen with res 1680x1050 and no chance to get it running in that
[01:29] <fjallagyldir> card is sis 65x and capeable of the res
[01:29] <GWild> fjallagyldir: have you searched for and installed the correct drivers for your particular card?
[01:30] <fjallagyldir> hmm tried xorg-driver-video-sis sont know wich else
[01:30] <atomx> well BluesKaj, I have tried "wget http://snapshots.madwifi-project.org/madwifi-hal-0.10.5.6-current.tar.gz" which is suspost to be the proper driver for it on all versions of ubuntu
[01:31] <atomx> and I can't get it to find any wireless networks, or act like it's evin on, it showes it's self in the hardware program, but no way to see any networks
[01:31] <kuaera> atomx: You...completed the whole block which starts with the wget, right?
[01:31] <fjallagyldir> what does iwconfig say?
[01:32] <atomx> yes, yes I did
[01:32] <fjallagyldir> do you have installed iwtools?
[01:32] <GWild> fjallagyldir: Try this - this addresses SIS based cards http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=963959
[01:32] <mofux> hmm, is there a command that i can shutdown my computer in lets say 10 minutes (shutdown timer)
[01:32] <GWild> fjallagyldir: might help - I have nvidia so my experience getting up an running will have been different.
[01:33] <fjallagyldir> you can do that possibly with the "at" command or atd
[01:33] <fjallagyldir> we will see
[01:34] <BluesKaj> hmm, atomx , no mention of KnetworkManager , did you try to set it up with that
[01:34] <atomx> it won't evin open for some reason, I click on it and it does nothing
[01:35] <GWild> mofux: man shutdown and it will give you the syntax - ex; shutdown -r now to shutdown w/ reboot in 0 seconds
[01:35] <mofux> GWild: thanks
[01:36] <BluesKaj> atomx , right click on it , choose edit connections / new connecctions
[01:36] <atomx> ok
[01:36] <atomx> options for wired or wireless
[01:37] <BluesKaj> yeah , choose your option
[01:37] <slerder> Hey guys. While I was just checking the auth.log file and saw something that went on whil I  was away. Any idea what it could be: Mar 10 18:17:01 w CRON[16220]: pam_unix(cron:session): session opened for user root by (uid=0) thanks
[01:37] <atomx> ok
[01:38] <etfb> My wife's Toshiba laptop keeps losing its wireless card when it wakes up from Suspend or Hibernate.  Isn't there a command to kick it so it finds it again?  I'm sure I remember something like that from Edgy, but this is Hardy.
[01:39] <atomx> BluesKaj: it pulls up a new connection screen with nothing in it
[01:39] <fjallagyldir> brb trying the sisfb thing
[01:42] <BluesKaj> atomx , click next then in conmnection name type eth0 , the choose autoconnect
[01:43] <atomx> ok I have done that, now what BluesKaj?
[01:43] <BluesKaj> relogin
[01:44] <atomx> ok brb
[01:48] <fjallagyldir> re
[01:49] <fjallagyldir> GWild, didnt work form unfortunally
[01:49] <fjallagyldir> where does X writes its modelines to?
[01:50] <GWild> sec
[01:51] <GWild> fjallagyldir: try /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[01:53] <fjallagyldir> (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[01:53] <fjallagyldir> (==) No Layout section.  Using the first Screen section.
[01:53] <fjallagyldir> (**) |-->Screen "Default Screen" (0)
[01:53] <fjallagyldir> (**) |   |-->Monitor "Configured Monitor"
[01:53] <fjallagyldir> (**) |   |-->Device "Configured Video Device"
[01:53] <fjallagyldir> (==) Automatically adding devices
[01:53] <fjallagyldir> (==) Automatically enabling devices
[01:53] <fjallagyldir> hmm any suggestions?
[01:55] <GWild> sorry - I don't.
[01:55] <fjallagyldir> do you have modelines in your xorg.conf?
[01:55] <GWild> sec
[01:56] <GWild> no
[01:56] <GWild> none - mine is very brief
[01:56] <GWild> I run an nVidia at 1680x1050
[01:57] <fjallagyldir> yeah mine here too :-(
[01:57] <fjallagyldir> tring hacking xorg.conf
[02:06] <fjallagyldir> brb
[02:09] <withnail420> anyone had any problems with the last couple of version of kubuntu not filling the laptop screen fully? that is what's bugging me at the minute
[02:09] <withnail420> apparently it's to do with a new way of x being handled
[02:09] <withnail420> only fills up 75% of the screen
[02:10] <etfb> What on earth does "No network device found" mean in knetworkmanager?
[02:10] <withnail420> the xorg.conf only had "Generic Monitor" in the monitor bit
[02:10] <withnail420> so i loaded up an old version that didn't have this problem, copied the monitor section over, and it didn't work
[02:10] <Sixofour> i have a 9GB .rar archive is there any wayo to slice it into a bunch of 700mb sections?
[02:11] <withnail420> i found a thread on the ubuntu forums that said "SOLVED" for the same hardware as mine, but the solution was "Found a program that changed values on login, can't remember what it is though!"
[02:11] <withnail420> which i do not class as solved
[02:11] <withnail420> Sixofour: no
[02:11] <withnail420> but if there are multiple files in there
[02:11] <withnail420> you can extract one file at a time
[02:11] <Sixofour> so i have to rearchive every for 12 hours to make .part files?
[02:11] <Sixofour> everything*
[02:12] <withnail420> that's not what .part files are
[02:12] <withnail420> .part files are from uncompleted downloads
[02:12] <Sixofour> then what are we talking about?
[02:12] <withnail420> your rar file?
[02:12] <Sixofour> i need to get a 9gb file onto a bunch of 700mb cds
[02:12] <Sixofour> without rearchive it
[02:12] <withnail420> rearchive it
[02:13] <withnail420> it's the only way. split it up then
[02:13] <Sixofour> can 7zip split it up?
[02:13] <withnail420> doubt it
[02:13] <withnail420> rar is the only one that splits into multiple parts
[02:13] <Sixofour> 7zip works with .rar
[02:13] <withnail420> see above
[02:14] <Sixofour> man, it took 9-10 hours to comrpess this thing
[02:14] <withnail420> that doesn't mean it will be any more possible
[02:14] <Sixofour> 36 gb into 9 gb
[02:15] <withnail420> just rar the files you put into it in smaller batches
[02:15] <withnail420> ie enough to fit on the cd
[02:16] <Sixofour> there is a way to make .aprt
[02:16] <Sixofour> i ahve a archive now ira .part1 part2 part3 etc
[02:16] <Sixofour> its*
[02:16] <withnail420> that will require you to re-archive it
[02:16] <withnail420> and when you do that...
[02:17] <withnail420> you would have to copy all those cds to the hard drive
[02:17] <withnail420> before you could extract anything
[02:17] <withnail420> rar them in smaller batches
[02:17] <Sixofour> i know
[02:17] <Sixofour> hrm
[02:17] <Sixofour> i wonder if linux can parition everything but this file..lol
[02:17] <withnail420> ...
[02:17] <Sixofour> i'm reformating the drive
[02:18] <withnail420> make a 9gb partition and stick it in there then
[02:18] <withnail420> make it 9 and a half to be safe...
[02:18] <withnail420> that's probably your best bet
[02:18] <withnail420> you on a live cd at the minute?
[02:18] <Sixofour> nah
[02:19] <Sixofour> i ahve two drives, one 8gb one 160gb [OS and data respctively]
[02:19] <Sixofour> installing kubuntu on the 8gb
[02:19] <Sixofour> wanted to convert the 160 from ntfs
[02:19] <withnail420> just squeeze it smalled with qtparted
[02:19] <withnail420> mkae a 9 1/2 gig backup partition
[02:19] <withnail420> stick stuff in there
[02:19] <withnail420> then reformat the ntfs one
[02:19] <Sixofour> can qt parted do that without actually damagign the 9gb file?
[02:20] <withnail420> what do you mean damaging the file?
[02:20] <Sixofour> when you make a partition you have to wipe the drive
[02:20] <withnail420> hence SQUEEZE IT SMALLER
[02:20] <withnail420> i did say
[02:20] <withnail420> to make room for the new partition
[02:20] <withnail420> so your larger one would have two
[02:21] <Sixofour> well reguardless it requires me to install kubuntu first, so i gbetter do that
[02:21] <withnail420> no it doesn't
[02:21] <withnail420> you could do it from the live cd
[02:21] <Sixofour> i don't have a live cd
[02:22] <withnail420> every install cd is a live cd
[02:22] <Sixofour> oh
[02:23] <withnail420> actually Sixofour
[02:23] <withnail420> from the live cd install,
[02:23] <Sixofour> yeah
[02:23] <Sixofour> i was about to saty
[02:23] <Sixofour> i can do it from the install
[02:23] <withnail420> you can set it to squeeze the ntfs partition and make a new one while installing
[02:23] <Sixofour> how exactly do i do that?
[02:23] <withnail420> it's in the setup menu
[02:24] <Sixofour> i usualy just hit next a punch and reformat everything
[02:24] <Sixofour> bunch*
[02:24] <withnail420> split the drive 50/50 as the 8g one won't fit your rar file
[02:24] <Sixofour> yeah
[02:24] <withnail420> well read stuff this time
[02:24] <Sixofour> reformat one, move the 9gb then reformat the other
[02:24] <Sixofour> then after that make one partition
[02:24] <withnail420> ...i'm sure you'll figure it out
[02:24] <Sixofour> yeah
[02:25] <Sixofour> but its always the "don't forget to put a check here or your pc will explode" type of settings i fail on
[02:25] <withnail420> that's due to not reading things
[02:27] <o0Chris0o> How come the new kubuntu is missing a lot of basic features? I can understand there was a lot of improvments, but what about the most basic ones?
[02:28] <withnail420> such as?
[02:28] <NickPresta> o0Chris0o: which 'basic features'?
[02:28] <o0Chris0o> I don't mean to sound rude, by it, I just wanna state that
[02:29] <o0Chris0o> umm, Copy and Paste, creating a short cut
[02:29] <withnail420> ...
[02:29] <withnail420> they are still there
[02:29] <o0Chris0o> for the desktop?
[02:29] <withnail420> yes
[02:30] <o0Chris0o> I guess I am trying to get used to the home folder functionality
[02:30] <mike> hey there. I have a dumb question from a noobie
[02:30] <Sixofour> lol
[02:30] <o0Chris0o> my bad :(
[02:30] <o0Chris0o> lol
[02:32] <Guest68644> hey there
[02:32] <Guest68644> I have a dumb noobie question
[02:32] <goofey> Guest68644: just ask it
[02:32] <goofey> Guest68644: no need to preface it - noob questions are welcome here
[02:32] <o0Chris0o> couldn't be bad as mine Guest68644
[02:33] <Guest68644> I installed my nvidia drivers and noow everything looks like I uninstalled them
[02:33] <Sixofour> lol
[02:33] <Sixofour> is there any apt-get command for doing nvidia stuff>?..i have an nvidia card also
[02:33] <goofey> Guest68644: can you run nvidia-settings?
[02:33] <Guest68644> my res was fine before (just no H/W acceleration)
[02:34] <Guest68644> now I am running 640x480 on a 32 inch hdtv
[02:34] <Guest68644> lol
[02:34] <Sixofour> spiffy
[02:34] <Guest68644> let me check
[02:34] <goofey> Sixofour: there's an option for installing an enabling nvidia drivers in the the kds system settings menu under advanced
[02:34] <Sixofour> ok
[02:35] <goofey> Guest68644: need to run it in sudo to make changes
[02:35] <Guest68644> what would it be under? Settings?
[02:35] <Guest68644> I dont see it
[02:35] <goofey> Guest68644: no, from the command line - I don;t think it creates an icon in the menu
[02:35] <NickPresta> use kdesu, not sudo, to launch graphical applications as root
[02:35] <NickPresta> !kdesu
[02:35] <Guest68644> oh, then I am lost already    :o)
[02:36] <goofey> NickPresta: thanks - I hadn't heard that
[02:36] <o0Chris0o> is there desktop effects in the current version that are able to change?
[02:36] <goofey> Guest68644: in a termonal, type kdesudo nvidi-settings
[02:36] <Sixofour> compiz
[02:36] <Sixofour> has beter ones
[02:36] <Sixofour> iirc
[02:36] <o0Chris0o> k
[02:37] <Guest68644> "command not found
[02:38] <GWild> Guest68644: type kdesudo nvidia-settings (typo above)
[02:38] <goofey> GWild: thanks
[02:38] <GWild> ;-)
[02:38] <Guest68644> ahh ok
[02:39] <Guest68644> same thing
[02:39] <Guest68644> "command not found"
[02:39] <goofey> NickPresta: so the issiu is that "sudo graphical app" could change user config files to root, "kdesudo graphical app" won't do that?
[02:40] <goofey> Guest68644: type nvidia and then hit the tab key - anything come up?
[02:40] <goofey> no space after nvidia
[02:40] <Guest68644> ok
[02:40] <NickPresta> goofey: something like that, yes. It is meant to launch graphical applications and don't muck with your permissions
[02:40] <withnail420> surely just apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[02:40] <withnail420> will fix most of these problems
[02:41] <goofey> NickPresta: I always learn something new...
[02:41] <GWild> woops :/
[02:41] <Guest68644> yes
[02:41] <Guest68644> a ton of stuff
[02:41] <goofey> Guest68644: well, that's wierd
[02:42] <goofey> Guest68644: but nvidia-settings isn't one of them?
[02:42] <Guest68644> ummm, nope
[02:43] <goofey> Guest68644: are you on kde 3 or kde 4?
[02:43] <GWild> Guest68644: hmm, I show the program as being /usr/bin/nvidia-settings
[02:44] <GWild> I'm running kde 4.2
[02:44] <goofey> same location as kde 3
[02:45] <goofey> the reason I asked about the version of kde is I htink kde4 also lets you set the resolution
[02:45] <Guest68644> is your nvidia settings in a folder or is it a file?
[02:45] <GWild> it's an executable
[02:45] <goofey> Guest68644: it's a file - an executable that
[02:45] <goofey> allows one to change all sort of, welol, nvidia-type settings
[02:45] <GWild> is it not available in the menu?
[02:45] <goofey> GWild: probably not
[02:45] <Guest68644> ok, cause I only have one folder (x11)
[02:46] <GWild> k
[02:46] <goofey> Guest68644: I'm not sure you have the nvidia drivers installed then - how did you try to install them>
[02:46] <GWild> you could try sudo apt-get nvidia-settings no?
[02:46] <goofey> ?
[02:47] <Guest68644> hey I have nvidia-xconfig
[02:47] <goofey> GWild: I didn't realize it was a seperate package - nice!
[02:47] <Guest68644> good enough?
[02:47] <goofey> Guest68644: yeah, that tries to automatically create an xorg.conf for you - not the best tool unfortunately
[02:47] <Guest68644> oh ok
[02:48] <goofey> Guest68644: GWild is right, install nvidia-settings and then you can change resolution with the easliy
[02:48] <goofey> er, easily
[02:48] <GWild> !beer
[02:48] <Guest68644> adept?
[02:48] <Guest68644> now that I can do
[02:49] <goofey> yes, you can use adept
[02:49] <goofey> the package to install is nvidia-settings
[02:51] <GWild> then you should find it in your kde menu
[02:53] <whoiam> how do i type vietnamese on kubuntu?
[02:54] <Sixofour> going to install kubuntu, be back soon
[02:54] <withnail420> Sixofour: good luck
[02:54] <withnail420> Sixofour: wait
[02:54] <Sixofour> you said squeeze it?
[02:54] <withnail420> aye, in relation to that
[02:54] <withnail420> it will take bloody AGES
[02:54] <withnail420> andf may not report progress till its done
[02:54] <Sixofour> :o now you tell me
[02:54] <withnail420> don't worry
[02:54] <withnail420> just let it do its thing
[02:54] <Sixofour> how long is ages?
[02:54] <withnail420> i've seen it take over an hour
[02:54] <Sixofour> :O
[02:54] <withnail420> just don't stop it ha;lfway through
[02:55] <withnail420> or everything will be screwed
[02:55] <Sixofour> yeah
[02:55] <Sixofour> welp, i'm off
[02:55] <mattparry> Hi!  Plasma is not working for me :-(, is there a how-to fix plasma?
[02:56] <mattparry> thank you!!!
[02:58] <Guest68644> ok got the settings, but the window is so big I cant change settings
[02:58] <Guest68644> I also cant resize the window
[02:58] <NickPresta> Guest68644: is this in Adept or nvidia-settings?
[02:58] <Guest68644> nvidia settings
[02:58] <NickPresta> :q
[02:59] <whoiam> how do i type vietnamese on kubuntu?
[02:59] <NickPresta> oops, sorry :-)
[02:59] <withnail420> install vietnamese fonts?
[02:59] <withnail420> set vietnamese keymap?
[03:00] <withnail420> i'm from england so not really sure
[03:00] <whoiam> i can type vietnamese on ubuntu
[03:00] <whoiam> but on kubuntu, it's seem so hard
[03:00] <withnail420> in what manner?
[03:00] <withnail420> is your locale set right?
[03:00] <whoiam> yes
[03:01] <withnail420> keymap set right?
[03:01] <Guest68644> I hit maximize with the hopw of the window sizing to my screen, but to no avail
[03:01] <withnail420> are you on a live cd?
[03:01] <whoiam> no, i install it on virtual machine
[03:02] <withnail420> did it ask for your locale when you installed it?
[03:02] <whoiam> yes
[03:02] <withnail420> oh wait, you already set that
[03:02] <withnail420> i meant keymap
[03:02] <whoiam> yes, i can type on ubuntu
[03:02] <withnail420> why is it "hard"
[03:02] <Guest68644> BTW in the settings 640x480 is the highest setting I am allowed
[03:02] <withnail420> surely you can either do it or not
[03:03] <whoiam> sure
[03:03] <NickPresta> Guest68644: I know it doesn't seem too practical, but you can always use Tab move around the window. Otherwise, you can try this: `sudo nvidia-xconfig --mode-list=1650x1080` Obviously, you want to replace 1680x1050 with your desired resolution.
[03:03] <Guest68644> it's litterally killing
[03:03] <whoiam> i can see scim icon in bottom right conner
[03:03] <goofey> Guest68644: you might also check with the folks on #mythbuntu or #mythtv since your outputting to a TV
[03:04] <whoiam> but, it can't change the language between Eng and Vietnamese
[03:04] <Guest68644> crap ths ps sold to someone with a 19" lcd. so I guess it would be 1440x900, eh?
[03:04] <whoiam> on ubuntu, it works fine
[03:04] <Guest68644> ps=PC
[03:05] <NickPresta> Guest68644: I'm not sure. Surely, it would be better than 640x480 :-)
[03:05] <goofey> whoiam: the only real difference between ubuntu and kubuntu are the window managers - does this computer have both gnome and kde?
[03:05] <whoiam> no, it doesn't
[03:06] <Guest68644> lol, true
[03:06] <goofey> whoiam: you might want to see if there's some language-specific packages installed on your ubuntu box that you don't have installed on ytour kubuntu box
[03:06] <whoiam> ok
[03:07] <withnail420> yes, start the package manager and search for languages
[03:07] <Guest68644> ok did what you said... do I restart PC or X?
[03:08] <withnail420> probably the pc
[03:08] <goofey> whoiam: a couple to look for would be language-pack-kde-vi or language-pack-vi or language-support-vi
[03:08] <mattparry> Hi!  Can anyone give me some pointers for plasma troubleshooting?
[03:08] <whoiam> i'm searching on internet
[03:09] <Guest68644> thanks
[03:15] <Guest37580> good news is the pc restarted
[03:15] <Guest37580> bad news is its at 640x480 again
[03:16] <Guest37580> these drivers are litterally sucking my will to live
[03:16] <goofey> Guest37580: but the sudo nvidia-xconfig --mode-list=1650x1080 command worked for you before?
[03:18] <Guest37580> well, yeah I thnk so, it gave a statment or so of doubt (which I cannot remember) but it saids it wrote it to the xorg file or something to that affect
[03:20] <goofey> Guest37580: what I'm thinking is you can use that command again to get a more reasonable resolution and then use nvidia-settings to save the resolution
[03:21] <Guest37580> i put in 1440x900
[03:21] <goofey> Guest37580: whatever
[03:21] <etes> ???????/
[03:21] <Guest37580> prob is the command did nothing
[03:22] <Guest37580> nothing visable anywway
[03:22] <goofey> Guest37580: It didn't actually change your resolution?
[03:22] <Guest37580> no
[03:23] <Guest37580> i just got back from a restart and a good cry
[03:23] <goofey> Guest37580: :(
[03:23] <withnail420> i feel ya
[03:23] <Guest37580> nothing
[03:23] <Guest37580> lol
[03:24] <o0Chris0o> the built in effects in kde4, how do I change them or turn them off?
[03:24] <goofey> Guest37580: you might try this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution
[03:24] <etes> m4v are gay
[03:24] <NickPresta> Guest37580: if you can't actually support that resolution, it won't change. You need to make sure you're using the correct drivers
[03:25] <etes> elian hanish és gay
[03:25] <NickPresta> etes: happy? Of course.
[03:25] <etes> ??
[03:25] <etes> etes, invaden a terraa
[03:25] <NickPresta> !english | etes
[03:26] <etes> fock
[03:26] <etes> ubottu, ??
[03:26] <goofey> ubottu: !nsfw | etes
[03:26] <etes> ubottu, goofey ?
[03:26] <etes> ahahahha
[03:26] <doleyb> o0Chris0o: system settings, desktop, desktop effects?
[03:27] <etes> ubottu, NickPresta
[03:27] <goofey> etes: what is it you want?
[03:27] <etes> invade the earth
[03:27] <etes> i from zeta reticuli
[03:28] <o0Chris0o> ahh ty
[03:28] <goofey> ubottu: !offtopic | etes
[03:28] <etes> ubottu, zeta reticuli
[03:28] <etes> goofey, how are you?
[03:28] <m4v> !ops
[03:29] <Guest37580> could it be that I am on a hdtv and it would look normal on a 19" lcd?
[03:29] <etes> m4v, shut up
[03:30] <goofey> m4v: nice
[03:30] <asshs> stdin, fock you
[03:30]  * NickPresta shakes his head
[03:30] <NickPresta> they never learn
[03:31] <maco_> how do i make quassel stop having 2 windows of text
[03:33] <mattparry> ubottu, plasma
[03:34] <withnail420> sigh
[03:34] <withnail420> tried copying over the "screen" section of the old working xorg.conf as well as the monitor section
[03:34] <Guest37580> ubottu, bill gates
[03:35] <withnail420> just hung everything
[03:35] <Guest37580> hehe
[03:36] <o0Chris0o> can I stop the notifications each time I get a message in kopete?
[03:40] <doleyb> o0Chris0o: yes you can
[03:40] <o0Chris0o> doleyb: Thanks I actually found it on Kopete
[03:40] <o0Chris0o> :)
[03:43] <o0Chris0o> doleyb: can't change where the notifications are located on the desktop yet can we? Or is that in Jaunty
[03:44] <doleyb> o0Chris0o: idk a way to move that
[03:44] <tweakedeh> Good DVD backup tool?
[03:45] <stdin> k9copy
[03:46] <tweakedeh> stdin: I have it open and it's not working for me...
[03:47] <stdin> just click the "Copy" button
[03:48] <tweakedeh> stdin: Do I get any indication that it's working? I've hit the Copy button several times now.
[03:48] <maco_> o0Chris0o: no notification changes in jaunty for kubuntu
[03:49] <o0Chris0o> really now? I thought I read somewhere it said that
[03:50] <stdin> tweakedeh: did you get the save dialog?
[03:51] <maco_> o0Chris0o: thats for ubuntu. and no, the location isnt configurable.
[03:51] <o0Chris0o> Oh alright
[03:52] <tweakedeh> stdin: I just poped in a cd. I selected the main movie and tried to copy it.
[03:52] <maco_> in that case the notifications are just below the top panel on the right
[03:52] <o0Chris0o> Thats too bad, I was looking foward to that
[03:52] <stdin> tweakedeh: it asks me where to save the ISO then it starts
[03:53] <tweakedeh> Yea, I Save the Iso to my desktop and I get nothing, maybe i need to install some thing else as well?
[03:54] <tweakedeh> stdin: I can play it in VLC media player.
[03:56] <stdin> tweakedeh: after I choose to save the ISO I get this window: http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/1609/snapshot0.jpg
[03:56] <withnail420> bracing for system crash again
[03:57] <withnail420>  hrm
[03:57] <withnail420> still not fixed though
[03:58] <o0Chris0o> how can I get more screenssavers with kde4?
[03:58] <tweakedeh> stdin: I don't get any thing like that it just disappears on me.
[03:58] <Alan_Lockwood> Hi. I got a problem: I cant see previews when using the "open/save file pop-up"
[03:59] <Sixofour> We are go!
[03:59] <Sixofour> :D
[03:59] <Sixofour> withnail420:
[03:59] <Sixofour> you around?
[03:59] <withnail420> yep
[03:59] <withnail420> just about to hang my system again
[03:59] <Sixofour> i didn't do the split thing, couldn't figure it out
[03:59] <withnail420> hang on
[04:00] <Sixofour> so i installed on the 8gb drive and left it
[04:00] <maco_> any of you use quassel?
[04:00] <withnail420> well, it didn't hang but my GOD WHY WON'T IT WORK
[04:00] <withnail420> sorry about that
[04:00] <withnail420> i've been looking all over the web for three days
[04:00] <crxyem> anyone know if I  have kubuntu installed if I can simply use adept to install edubuntu-dekstop-kde, I'de like to set up a system for my 3yr old to use
[04:01] <withnail420> and the nearest i've got is someone saying THEY did it, but not saying how
[04:01] <withnail420> raaaage
[04:01] <Sixofour> stop raeging and help moi!
[04:01] <Sixofour> :D
[04:01] <withnail420> i've got problems i'm working through here man
[04:01] <Sixofour> Also where is the nvidia setting stuff-a-ma-jig?
[04:01] <maco_> crxyem: yeah thatll be fine
[04:01] <Sixofour> what is the problem?
[04:02] <withnail420> Sixofour: just do this;
[04:02] <withnail420> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[04:02] <Sixofour> ah ok
[04:02] <withnail420> it will solve most stuff, and install flashplayer and java and codecs
[04:02] <o0Chris0o> withnail420: is that the same for kubuntu as well?
[04:02] <tweakedeh> stdin: I have this( http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/2995/snapshot1r.jpg ) then I go Actions > Copy > then I try and save it to my Desktop but It's not working
[04:02] <withnail420> although someone else had a problem with nvidia earlier even thogh they did that...so i dunno
[04:02] <withnail420> but i've had it work for me before
[04:03] <goofey> o0Chris0o: for kubuntu, it's kubuntu-restricted-extras
[04:03] <Sixofour> works for me too
[04:03] <o0Chris0o> yeah thats what I meant, thanks
[04:03] <Sixofour> i just forgot the command lol
[04:04] <casinowarren> i need some help with my gimpshop installation, can someone help me
[04:04] <withnail420> bracing for system crash again...
[04:05] <withnail420> I DON'T BELIEVE IT
[04:05] <withnail420> IT'S FIXED
[04:05] <casinowarren> congrats
[04:05] <withnail420> i decided, the hell with it...i'm just going to copy the old xorg file over totally
[04:05] <stdin> tweakedeh: try running k9copy from konsole and see if it prints out anything
[04:05] <withnail420> i backed up the old one first
[04:05] <withnail420> AND IT WORKS
[04:05]  * withnail420 does a dance
[04:05] <Sixofour> good
[04:06] <doleyb> casinowarren: gimp isn't very kde-ish, maybe #gimp can help really
[04:06] <o0Chris0o> always good to hear something worked out
[04:06] <casinowarren> alright
[04:06] <casinowarren> thanks
[04:06] <Sixofour> so, qtparted
[04:06] <withnail420> ha, i am so glad this worked
[04:06] <withnail420> it's been driving me mad
[04:07] <tweakedeh> stdin: Its working now?!
[04:08] <stdin> odd
[04:08] <withnail420> aye!
[04:08] <tweakedeh> stdin: Very..
[04:10] <tweakedeh> stdin: so do I have to run it in the konsole every time for it to work?
[04:10] <stdin> tweakedeh: it shouldn't matter, maybe it was just a temporary glitch
[04:13] <Sixofour> so how does one slit a drive in half and format one, copy an important 9gb file over to the formated one, then format the other half and remove the split?
[04:14] <tweakedeh> stdin: Hum, Any ways thanks for the help =]
[04:14] <maco_> Sixofour: and remove the split?
[04:14] <Sixofour> yes, so its one partition again
[04:15] <maco_> well i suppose you could do just as you said
[04:15] <Sixofour> how?
[04:15] <Sixofour> I don't know how to do what i just said
[04:15] <maco_> i dont understand why you'd do it though
[04:15] <Sixofour> because its an ntfs drive that i want to change to ext3
[04:15] <Sixofour> but i need the 9gb file on it
[04:15] <maco_> ahhhh ok
[04:15] <maco_> in that case
[04:16] <maco_> shrink the ntfs partition. create an ext3 one in the free space. copy the file to the ext3 partition. delete the ntfs partition. resize the ext3 one
[04:16] <Sixofour> how do you resize?..i didn't see anything like that
[04:17] <maco_> i dont know if qtparted offers it, but gparted does...
[04:17] <maco_> (i've never used qtparted)
[04:17] <Sixofour> what does kubuntu use?
[04:17] <maco_> i dont know
[04:18] <maco_> i installed kubuntu-desktop while i had ubuntu installed. on my other machine,i used the text installer.
[04:18] <stdin> both qtparted and gparted are GUIs for the parted tool, so should offer the same functionality
[04:18] <stdin> but you'll probably be better off with gparted
[04:18] <o0Chris0o> is there some kind of an ftp server program kubuntu offers?
[04:18] <maco_> stdin: thats what i thought, but idk what the button would say in qtparted
[04:18] <maco_> o0Chris0o: openssh-server does sftp and ssh serving
[04:18] <maco_> o0Chris0o: its not included by default
[04:19] <stdin> qtparted hasn't been maintained in a while and is being droped in jaunty
[04:19] <o0Chris0o> alright thanks
[04:19] <Sixofour> sudo apt-get install gparted?
[04:19] <maco_> yeah
[04:19] <stdin> yeah, but you can't modify the partition while it's in use. so if it's the partition you're using now then use the LiveCD
[04:19] <maco_> ...youre not intending to resize while running on the system right?
[04:20] <Sixofour> its not the OS drive
[04:20] <maco_> stdin: heh, simultaneous alarm bells :P
[04:20] <Sixofour> os is on a tiny 8gb drive, the 9gb file is on an 160gb data drive
[04:20] <maco_> Sixofour: oh. then why do you even need to do what you're doing that way? why not just copy the 9gb file to your OS drive then format the other drive ext3 all at once?
[04:21] <maco_> oh
[04:21] <Sixofour> lol
[04:21] <Sixofour> "oh"
[04:21] <Sixofour> even if it was 8 gp, the os is what...6gb??
[04:21] <maco_> no....
[04:21] <Sixofour> someone said 5-6 gb
[04:21] <maco_> i had ubuntu installed on a machine that had a nominally-5gb but actually 4.2gb drive
[04:22] <maco_> with 768mb swap
[04:22] <maco_> and about 1.5gb for /home
[04:22] <maco_> what's that leave? 2gb?
[04:22] <Sixofour> i don't know
[04:22] <Sixofour> i just selected the 8gb drive and hit next
[04:23] <Sixofour> i looked around in "manual" mode for a bit but said "meh"
[04:23] <maco_> Sixofour: no i meant...i think that means ubuntu fits into 2gb
[04:23] <Sixofour> oh
[04:23] <maco_> maybe 3gb
[04:23] <Sixofour> kubuntu with all the wangs and dings?
[04:23] <maco_> no it was ubuntu not kubuntu
[04:23] <demi> Qiuck Question, im using dolphin and click on my ntfs drive to move a folder over and nothing is howing up... why is that?
[04:23] <Sixofour> oh even then
[04:23] <maco_> i doubt kubuntu is much bigger than gnome...
[04:24] <maco_> did replace it with debian + e17 because um...ubuntu on 192mb ram? not pleasant.
[04:24] <demi> Like it wont even try reading the drive.
[04:24] <Sixofour> 192 ram lol
[04:24] <doleyb> demi: seems likely that your ntfs drive isn't mounted.  do you see the drive in the left bar?
[04:24] <Sixofour> fail
[04:24] <demi> yes it shows ntfs in the left bar.
[04:24] <maco_> Sixofour: hey, thats a lot of ram for a computer of that age!
[04:24] <Sixofour> what age?
[04:24] <maco_> Sixofour: pentium 2
[04:24] <Sixofour> lol
[04:25] <Sixofour> that retro machine?
[04:25] <maco_> that thing's a pre-teen!
[04:25] <Sixofour> does it come with bellbottoms?
[04:25] <demi> When I clikc the ntfs drive it move and rehighlights home folder instead.
[04:25] <Sixofour> the flintstones are younger :P
[04:26] <maco_> Sixofour: hey it runs. no reason to send it to the junk heap yet. and unlike the computer from 2002, the pentium 2 machine *hasn't* had any hardware go bad
[04:26] <Sixofour> that's because hardware these days is fail
[04:26] <demi> What do I type to mount the drive in a terminal?
[04:26] <doleyb> demi: first just type "mount" to check what's mounted already
[04:26] <Sixofour> isn't it just.. "mount driverletter\ ?
[04:26] <maco_> ive got one comp from 2000 with a bad graphics chip, another from 2003 with a dying graphics chip, and the fan quit on the one from 2002 (replaced that)
[04:27] <Sixofour> only hardware failure ive ever had is my 20gb drive from a 2005 dell
[04:27] <maco_> Sixofour: driveletter\?? the slashes go forward. and the partitions require more than just a letter to define them
[04:27] <demi> Well evidently its not mounted.
[04:27] <Sixofour> smoke came out of it
[04:27] <o0Chris0o> I got 5gig ram, 1tb Hard drive, quad core phenom processor and nvidia 9500gt, only issues I am having are some audio and some video, but nothing too serious
[04:27] <demi> mount //ntfs
[04:27] <maco_> i really doubt the block device is called //ntfs
[04:28] <Sixofour> 2.0ghz amd 3200+, 2.5gb ram, geforce 7300gs[lawl]
[04:28] <maco_> more likely something along the lines of /dev/sdb1
[04:28] <Sixofour> 512mb card
[04:28] <doleyb> demi: do you know the partition name of your ntfs?  does that same name show up in the dolphin list?
[04:28] <Sixofour> my video card has 4 times as much ram as your whole computer maco_
[04:28] <demi> it's just showing Volume (ntfs) sadly.
[04:28] <Sixofour> and its a GS
[04:29] <maco_> Sixofour: everybody says gateways are bad quality. ive got an 11 year old gateway that has *never* broken. the hp, emachines, and asus all broke down
[04:29] <maco_> i got the mobo replaced on my asus in december
[04:29] <maco_>  months old :(
[04:29] <Sixofour> i have an unbroken emachien from 1996
[04:29] <Sixofour> or 98
[04:29] <maco_> *6 months
[04:29] <Sixofour> forget when
[04:29] <Sixofour> this 8gb drive i am on?....its about 16 years old
[04:30] <Sixofour> it runs on coal
[04:30] <maco_> they made 8gb drives back then?
[04:30] <maco_> no way
[04:30] <maco_> i was 4 16 years ago
[04:30] <withnail420> Sixofour: i have 320mb ram, 700mhz processor, 4 gig harddrive
[04:30] <Sixofour> er not 16
[04:30] <maco_> i got my first windows box when i was 9, and it had a 2gb drive
[04:30] <withnail420> i'm a time traveller
[04:30] <maco_> updated it to a 10gb drive when i was 11
[04:30] <Sixofour> 10 years ago
[04:30] <Sixofour> 1998
[04:30] <Sixofour> 11 years
[04:30] <demi> what's the usual partitions for a secondary HD?
[04:31] <maco_>  /dev/sdb*
[04:31] <maco_> sdb1 for the first partition, sdb2 for the second, etc
[04:31] <Sixofour> so i got restricted stuff installed, what do i need to do for the nvidia stuff?
[04:33] <Sixofour> .
[04:34] <demi> This sucks I think my last install automatically mounted the ntfs, im not sure how to mount it.
[04:35] <tweakedeh> mount /dev/sdb2
[04:36] <Sixofour> is there a qwuick way to play a sound in kubuntu?
[04:36] <demi> mount: can't find /dev/sdb2 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[04:37] <demi> cd /etc/fstab
[04:37] <Sixofour> w00t sound works
[04:37] <tweakedeh> mount /dev/sda2
[04:37] <demi> mount: can't find /dev/sda2 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[04:37] <doleyb> maco_: I think last week i dumpsterized a 15 yr gateway p100.
[04:37] <maco_> see? gateways in the 90s were really sturdy
[04:38] <Sixofour> !
[04:38] <Sixofour> So system settings is supposed to have arestricted option now, but its not there??
[04:38] <Sixofour> ive never used kde4
[04:38] <tweakedeh> What does 'mount' say?
[04:40] <demi> http://pastebin.com/m689968d8
[04:43] <Sixofour> restarting
[04:46] <demi> this site im on says go to, Go to K menu > System Settings > Advanced Tab > Disk & File Systems
[04:47] <six> crap
[04:47] <demi> I  don't have the Disk and File Systems in my list though.
[04:47] <sixofour> installed nvidia drivers and w00t, i have a lower color depth and max res :D
[04:47] <sixofour> something is very wrong here
[04:48] <demi>  <tweakedeh> http://pastebin.com/m689968d8 >> thats my mount info.
[04:49] <sixofour> screw it, i don't play games i'll just use the onboard video
[04:49] <sixofour> deal with nvidia stuff if i need it later
[04:49] <demi> I had to do a full upgrade, then install the hardware driver for my ati work, works great, did the same thing for my bro that was using nvidia in ubuntu
[04:52] <coreyman> how do i put the system in standby
[04:55] <maco_> coreyman: kicker -> leave -> suspend
[04:56] <demi> anyone else avail to get my ntfs HD mounted that can help?
[04:56] <coreyman> maco_i dont have suspend
[04:56] <demi> it is sleep
[04:57] <coreyman> i dont have sleep either
[04:57] <coreyman> or hibernate
[04:57] <demi> Ypou using kde4?
[04:57] <demi> You*
[04:57] <coreyman> yes
[04:58] <demi> Hrmm, not sure mine shows them fine.
[04:59] <maco_> coreyman: did you by any chance use acpi=off or noacpi when booting to work around some issue?
[04:59] <coreyman> maco_ no
[05:00] <coreyman> oh well ill just shut it down :P
[05:00] <coreyman> not a big deal its just a desktop
[05:00] <coreyman> c u guys l8ter
[05:00] <six> ok, i accedently deleetd the task toolbar,, how do ig et it back?
[05:01] <maco_> :( trying to watch a DVD in dragon.  it plays through the fbi warning, then it stops. how do i get it to play the video?
[05:01] <demi> right click add widget I think and add it again
[05:01] <demi> Maco VLC player is better imho
[05:01] <maco_> if i hit play after it stops, it spins up the disk and doesnt do anything
[05:02] <o0Chris0o> I am unable to view  a friends webcam, how do I get a rendering program? jasper
[05:02] <maco_> demi: well im trying to see if kde has usable/useful software for this. you're saying the answer is no?
[05:02] <maco_> o0Chris0o: a rendering program?
[05:02] <o0Chris0o> that renders the incoming video
[05:02] <o0Chris0o> so I can see it
[05:02] <maco_> incoming from where?
[05:02] <maco_> im confused
[05:03] <maco_> you mean like video chat?
[05:03] <o0Chris0o> kopete
[05:03] <o0Chris0o> webcam
[05:03] <o0Chris0o> yes
[05:03] <demi> I am not sure maco, I never used Dragon Before.
[05:03] <maco_> well kopete should be doing it if youre on msn
[05:12] <demi> Cool I got it to mount
[05:12] <demi> using ntfs-3g
[05:12] <demi> Had to force mount it.
[05:12] <maco_> oh didnt shut down right last time you used windows?
[05:13] <demi> probably not.
[05:13] <maco_> should only have to force mount if its in need of a chkdsk
[05:13] <demi> thats my guess, I think I just hit retart on the pc
[05:15] <demi> I am gonna try getting Everquest to play using wine lol=\
[05:16] <maco_> oops. apparently libdvdcss2 went missing since the last time i watched a dvd O_o
[05:16] <sixofour> so how can i tell what video i am using now?
[05:16] <sixofour> i want to go back to the onboard video, it seemed to work alot better
[05:26] <o0Chris0o> if I wanted too can I get rid of konquerer? and just isntall firefox
[05:29] <antares> how monut and extract pcmcia cards?????
[05:43] <atomx> quick question
[05:43] <atomx> anyone run WoW in wine? and if so what kind of performance do you get?
[05:44] <doleyb> atomx: i dont use wow, but people do and its alright.  search for Wine on wowwiki.com
[05:46] <o0Chris0o> atomx: I tried it awhile back
[05:47] <o0Chris0o> its different then what your used too, but I got about the same performance as on windows
[05:47] <atomx> cool cool
[05:48] <atomx> well I have ubuntu on my laptop and wow on my windows machine, and was wanting to put it on my lappy for when I travel
[05:48] <atomx> figured this was a good way to try :)
[05:49] <doleyb> atomx: a lot of laptops have bad 3d cards, idk how much wow needs
[05:50] <o0Chris0o> yeah, I was never a hard core gamer on a laptop
[05:51] <chairman> does anybody have flyback for Kubuntu
[05:51] <atomx> i'm not hard core, but trips can get quite boring when they are for busness :)
[05:51] <kuaera> atomx: I run a lot of the Tycoon games on this laptop
[05:51] <kuaera> atomx: Rollercoaster Tycoon via Wine, and a free port of Transport Tycoon Deluxe called OpenTTD
[05:52] <kuaera> It's actually a lot of fun :)
[05:52] <atomx> :)
[05:52] <kuaera> I kinda have a think for "retro" single-player games.
[05:52] <kuaera> *thing
[05:52] <atomx> I am also a sims fan and I know that runs well for me too =D
[05:52] <atomx> who dosent?
[05:53] <kuaera> Most gamers, apparently. If it doesn't have guns and a 3-d engine, it's useless
[05:54] <atomx> lol
[05:54] <atomx> yeah, but the gamers that play the game for the fun of it are the only ones that matter ;)
[05:56] <kuaera> I suppose so :P
[05:56] <atomx> hopefully  i can get my wireless working on this thing before I go though..
[05:56] <atomx> lol
[05:56] <atomx> I am using one of the acer aspire one netbookes
[05:57] <atomx> ubuntu and it have issues with wireless, aparently as do almost all distros
[05:57] <atomx> kinda dissapointing actually, I like this little thing
[05:58] <doleyb> atomx: oh ive made the acer wireless work in ubuntu... but i just downloaded madwifi source and compliled
[05:58] <atomx> same
[05:58] <atomx> but it wont find my router or any other for that matter
[05:58] <doleyb> it was easy once i stopped hoping an ubuntu package would work.
[05:58] <atomx> although it shows up in the hardware area
[05:58] <doleyb> atomx: oh run knetworkmanager...
[05:59] <o0Chris0o> I like playing FPS games, like Urban Terror
[05:59] <atomx> it's running doleyb
[05:59] <atomx> lol never played it chris
[05:59] <atomx> sounds entertaning though
[06:01] <o0Chris0o> its based off of Quake 3
[06:01] <atomx> nice
[06:01] <atomx> doleyb, what do I do once it's running?
[06:01] <atomx> I am used to using redhat :P alot of this is new to me :)
[06:04] <doleyb> atomx: well, right click it, New Connection, look for your router.
[06:05] <atomx> it shows absoutly nothing in that list
[06:05] <atomx> :(
[06:06] <doleyb> atomx: check lsmod|grep ath, and iwconfig
[06:06] <atomx> how would one go about doing that>
[06:08] <doleyb> atomx: konsole, sudo lsmod|grep ath.  You want to check that ath_pci is there
[06:09] <atomx> no
[06:09] <atomx> it's not
[06:10] <doleyb> atomx: What I'd do is first run jockey-kde and make sure that Atheros wireless support is OFF.  Then sudo modprobe ath_pci wlan_scan_sta.
[06:10] <doleyb> atomx: if the modprobe fails, then i guess you didn't fully install madwifi.
[06:12] <atomx> when i ran modprobe I got "FATAL: Error inserting ath_pci" followed by a bunch of other junk
[06:13] <doleyb> atomx: did you do jockey-kde ?
[06:15] <atomx> yeah
[06:15] <atomx> it's a grey dot
[06:15] <doleyb> atomx: Ok, you can run lspci|grep Ath to verify it contains an atheros chip.
[06:16] <sixofour> so i found my data drive in dolphin its "new volume" and its mounted as such, but when i click it, it asks for sudo then does nothing
[06:16] <doleyb> atomx: If that looks right, then check that madwifi is installed right.  cd ~/madwifi_<tab>; make;sudo make install
[06:16] <sixofour> its an ntfs drive
[06:16] <atomx> 03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev 01)
[06:17] <atomx> make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[06:17] <atomx> did I do something wrong?
[06:18] <doleyb> atomx: Well, did you change to your madwifi source directory?  Remember, the situation as I saw it is that the ubuntu atheros driver doesn't work with recent Acer boxes.
[06:18] <doleyb> atomx: But getting madwifi source directly will work.
[06:18] <atomx> ok
[06:19] <atomx> hmmmm
[06:20] <atomx> I can't find the dir.
[06:20] <doleyb> atomx: (Maybe read this bug page https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24/+bug/182489 )
[06:27] <atomx> hmmm
[06:27] <atomx> aparently alot of people are having luck with "sudo aptitude install linux-backports-modules-intrepid"
[06:27] <sixofour> so i'm trying to split an ntfs drive into two partitions but gparted gives an error when i apply it
[06:30] <sixofour> ERROR(95): Opening '/dev/sda1' as NTFS failed: Operation not supported
[06:30] <sixofour> The NTFS journal file is unclean. Please shutdown Windows properly before
[06:30] <sixofour> using this software! Note, if you have run chkdsk previously then boot
[06:30] <sixofour> Windows again which will automatically initialize the journal correctly.
[06:30] <sixofour> whoops
[06:30] <sixofour> didn't copythe paste lnik
[06:30] <sixofour> anyways that is the error gparted gives
[06:30] <sixofour> i don't have windows
[06:31] <doleyb> sixofour: well it seems to think your ntfs is corrupt, and that booting windows will repair
[06:31] <sixofour> lol
[06:31] <sixofour> so it would seem
[06:31] <doleyb> sixofour: NTFS documentation is hidden by microsoft, so linux access is guesswork and not so reliable.
[06:32] <sixofour> so...?
[06:32] <sixofour> i want to reformat the drive, but i need to juggle some files with aprtitions
[06:32] <sixofour> i woudl leave it, but i can't use it as is
[06:33] <doleyb> sixofour: even though microsoft.com has a free windows download right now, i won't recommend you try it.
[06:33] <sixofour> i have a windows cd
[06:33] <sixofour> but i'm not reinstalling windows, shutting down properly, then reinstalling kubuntu
[06:34] <sixofour> can i connect to this drive from another pc on a network?
[06:34] <doleyb> i wonder if you live-boot off the windows cd will be enough...?  i forget how that's done
[06:34] <sixofour> why do i need windows?
[06:35] <sixofour> you don't actually think shuttong down again will fix it?
[06:35] <sixofour> because i shutdown properly last time
[06:35] <sixofour> and a hundred times before that
[06:35] <doleyb> well i don't know.  have you tried if fsck.ntfs works at all?
[06:35] <sixofour> i don't even know whart that is
[06:36] <doleyb> Well fsck is the usual linux program to repair a corrupted partition table.
[06:36] <doleyb> But because ntfs is a windows thing, normal fsck won't handle it.
[06:37] <doleyb> sixofour: Anyway, since gparted and ntfs don't have much to do with kde ubuntu, maybe you should ask other place channel.
[06:37] <sixofour> my os is kubuntu
[06:38] <sixofour> and its kubuntu that told me to do it this way
[06:38] <atomx> hmmm
[06:38] <atomx> wireless still isint working
[06:39] <doleyb> sixofour: try http://kb.wisc.edu/helpdesk/page.php?id=5097
[06:39] <sixofour> why not run chkdsk from wine?
[06:39] <sixofour> lol
[06:40] <sixofour> or from linux
[06:40] <sixofour> ubuntu forums has info
[06:44] <atomx> hmmmm
[06:44] <atomx> doleyb
[06:44] <atomx> trying to run "tar -xzf madwifi-hal-0.10.5.6-current.tar.gz" and it won't do anything
[06:44] <atomx> no errors, no nothing, just a return to the next line
[06:50] <atomx> woot
[06:50] <atomx> got wireless working!
[06:50] <doleyb> atomx: lol really, how
[06:50] <atomx> I have no clue lol
[06:51] <doleyb> atomx: thats sad, you dont know how to do it again :(
[06:51] <atomx> I went through and redid the "https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AspireOne"
[06:51] <doleyb> atomx: now you can never reformat, or even reboot
[06:51] <atomx> I must have missed something the first 30 times lol
[06:51] <atomx> wait what?
[06:51] <atomx> I have to do that on every reboot?
[06:51] <nicholas_> #kubuntu off-topic
[06:52] <sparr> how can i go back to the old alt+f2 launcher from kde3 in kde4?  the new one is too slow
[06:52] <tacosarecool> is a wav data cd like a audio cd
[06:53] <tacosarecool> well goodnight
[07:04] <adminuser> you know what is what but you don't know what is what what the fuck
[07:04] <adminuser> what is up
[07:05] <stdin> !language | adminuser
[07:06] <six> so i seem to be able to resize the ntfs partition, but i still can't read the drive
[07:18] <yao_ziyuan> GROUNDBREAKING NEWS! the latest QtCurve widget style for KDE4/KDE3/GTK2 has evolved to a KDE4 Oxygen-like look'n'feel! now it also fits well with a KDE4-ish window decoration such as Ozone and Bespin. Screenshot: http://i43.tinypic.com/2s60t4j.png
[07:49] <noren> hi all
[07:50] <noren> is there a guide to learn how to cmpile my own dist frommm source ??
[07:56] <doleyb> noren: sure, there is LFS linux from scratch.  there's also gentoo.  and many more
[07:57] <noren> doleyb: i wanted to try lets say kubuntu 8.10 64bit how sud i go about
[07:59] <doleyb> noren: well you dont need to compile that... just download
[08:00] <noren> doleyb: but i wanted to learn it the hard way :)
[08:00] <Slartibartfast> noren: there are also remaster tools so you can add and remove some of the software and make you own custom install cd
[08:01] <noren> Slartibartfast: where can i get some info on them
[08:02] <Slartibartfast> noren: Google is your friend :-)
[08:02] <noren> which wud be faster building one urself or downloading one ??
[08:02] <Slartibartfast> hehehe, compiling big software projects will take quiet some time
[08:04] <saratoga> hey have a fresh install of 8.10 on a mates laptop he has a 3 mobile broadband usb dongle the network manager see's it's pluged on ttyusb0 and I have created a connection using the little info supplied by 3, It was initialised on a winblows box and connects no problems but no such luck for 8.10 help!
[08:04] <Slartibartfast> noren: if you like compiling software you can try gentoo :-) ... they download from from most packages the source and compile it locally
[08:08] <Slartibartfast> saratoga: this link maybe help you http://www.nabble.com/3-Mobile-USB-modem-td16208164.html
[08:09] <saratoga> cheers Slartibartfast having a look :)
[08:10] <Slartibartfast> saratoga: Look halfway that link ...
[08:10] <Slartibartfast> saratoga: Where it says: OK - PRETTY MUCH DISREGARD MOST ALL OF MY ABOVE POSTINGS AS I BRANCHED OFF THE WRONG TRACKS. MY HUAWEI E220 USB IS NOW WORKING.
[08:17] <Slartibartfast> saratoga: another interesting post is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=609534
[08:18] <Ganapati> Greetings! Need to sync my Xperia stuff with Kubuntu Intrepid.
[08:19] <Slartibartfast> Ganapati: what is "Xperia stuff"
[08:21] <Ganapati> sms, notes and calender, things like that :)
[08:21] <noren> !xperia
[08:21] <noren> !info Xperia
[08:22] <Slartibartfast> probbably xperia is some kind of mobile device ... because it need to sync
[08:22] <Ganapati> sorry! sonyericsson xperia
[08:23] <Slartibartfast> ah
[08:24] <Slartibartfast> !multisync
[08:25] <Slartibartfast> mm ... Ganapati: maybe this forum posting is helpful for you ... i personally don't use syncing of my mobile ...
[08:25] <Slartibartfast> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=242932&highlight=w700i
[08:26] <noren> Ganapati: u can always install wine and runn the proprietary sftware ffrom sonyerricson
[08:26] <Ganapati> thanks
[08:27] <Ganapati> tried to do things the kubuntu way but just got stuck
[08:27] <Guest90690> I have a problem with compiz, but I can't find the way to comeback to kde decoration.. is not "kde --replace", someone know the right command?
[08:30] <Slartibartfast> Ganapati: i see the xperia uses some Windows Mobile Software ...
[08:31] <Slartibartfast> Maybe  SynCE is then the software you can use
[08:31] <Ganapati> that is all true
[08:31] <Slartibartfast> !synce
[08:33] <Ganapati> I chek it out, thanks u guys
[08:34] <jussio1> !portables | Ganapati
[08:35] <Slartibartfast> Guest90690: it's kwin --replace && kde-window-decorator
[08:36] <Guest90690> Slartibartfast: Thanks :-)
[08:37] <Slartibartfast> Guest90690: np
[08:42] <egonw> where should I ask about plasma jaunty problems?
[08:43] <egonw> or actually a plasma crash that also happens with the 8.10 4.2.1 debs
[08:44] <ivan_> i
[08:46] <Slartibartfast> egonw: about Jaunty in #ubuntu+1
[08:47] <egonw> Slartibartfast: even if KDE stuff? OK, thanx
[08:47] <Slartibartfast> otherwise maybe can talk about it with the plasma guru's in #plasma
[08:47] <egonw> ok, thanx for the pointer
[08:47] <new_> kAll kThese kK's kAnd gG's gAre gAnnoying
[08:50] <egonw> hi all, plasma 4.2 on kubuntu 8.10 and 9.04 alpha keep crashing for me, and would very much appreciate some pointers on pin pointing the problem... I get debug output from the command line if I run from there, but do not see something clearly the problem... suggestions please
[08:50] <egonw> oops... sorry... wrong window :(
[08:50] <Slartibartfast> :-)
[09:01] <Guest32603> I need to correct install libplasma2 library in order to install compiz-kde and finally get compiz to work again..  but I get umet dependencies..
[09:01] <Guest32603> how can I solve this?
[09:01] <Guest32603> so far I read is a problem with the upgrade to kde 4.2..
[09:02] <Guest32603> I try some forum ideas, but without results
[09:04] <vmt1>   Hello all :) I setup freeradius-mysql on debian 8.04 with dialupadmin. I want to import the mysql databases but can not find it. Can someone help?
[09:11] <marvin_> Hola
[09:14] <vmt1> !radius
[09:14] <vmt1> !dialupadmin
[09:14] <vmt1> !freeradius
[09:16] <Guest32181> how can I set a new password?
[09:16] <Guest32181> in systemsettings?
[09:46] <zaibach333> hey
[09:47] <zaibach333> I haven't had kubuntu long, and I'm new to linux.
[09:47] <zaibach333> could someone help me share files to windows networks?
[09:48] <SlimeyPete> !samba
[09:48] <SlimeyPete> hrm...
[09:48] <SlimeyPete> those links might be ubuntu-specific
[09:49] <Slartibartfast> SlimeyPete: samba is mostly GUI less
[09:49] <Slartibartfast> so Gnome of KDE doesn't matter then
[09:49] <Slartibartfast> s/of/or
[09:50] <SlimeyPete> true, but I imagined that zaibach333 might want to use the KDE GUI tools
[09:50] <SlimeyPete> unfortunately I've no idea how good those tools are, or where they are, on the new version of Kubuntu
[09:51] <zaibach333_> I figured as much
[09:51] <zaibach333_> I couldnt share on mandriva which I was on last.
[09:54] <fernando> how can I set the shorcuts for lock screen?
[09:56] <JohnFlux> Guest4347: system settings, keyboard and mouse, global keyboard, change kde component to Run Command Interface
[09:56] <JohnFlux> Guest4347: and lock session is there
[09:57] <Guest4347> JohnFlux: thanks :-)
[09:59] <zaibach333_> I'm a bit confused about the server client stuff with alsa. in windows we all just shared an internet connection with the router and we were all clients I suppose. share files and your computer appears in the workgroup browser
[10:00] <zaibach333_> how exactly do I add myself to my windows workgroup and share folders for it?
[10:01] <SlimeyPete> zaibach333_: ALSA? You mean SAMBA?
[10:01] <SlimeyPete> you can edit your /etc/samba/smb.conf to do stuff like that
[10:01] <zaibach333_> SlimeyPete: woops yeah samba
[10:02] <SlimeyPete> it's a pretty good config file actually - lots of helpful comments in it
[10:02] <SlimeyPete> I'm sure there are GUI tools in KDE4 to do it too but as I say I've no idea how to use them (I've stuck with Kubuntu 8.04 - KDE3)
[10:02] <zaibach333_> hmmmmm... this is shouting failure at me but I'll take a look
[10:07] <Slartibartfast> Guest24553: it is really not a good practice to use IRC as root user
[10:12] <zaibach333_> SlimeyPete: does ; at the beginning of the line comment the rest of the line?
[10:12] <SlimeyPete> yes
[10:18] <zaibach333_> oh shoot. I opened up the file in kwrite and now I can't save. what's a konsole text editor
[10:19] <Slartibartfast> zaibach333_: nano /etc/samba.smb.conf
[10:22] <Slartibartfast> zaibach333_: Or next time use: ALT F3 -> kdesudo kwrite /etc/samba/smb.conf
[10:22] <Slartibartfast> Sorry ALT F2
[10:27] <zaibach333_> how do I save changes and exit nano
[10:29] <victim> ctr key and O key to output
[10:29] <victim> ctr key and X key to quit
[10:29] <victim> it tells you along the bottom edge of the screen
[10:30] <victim> output is the same as save
[10:30] <zaibach333_> dammit
[10:30] <zaibach333_> I dont have permission
[10:30] <victim> where is the same as find
[10:30] <zaibach333_> thanks
[10:30] <etfb> Is there a standard way to stop multiple instances of a program from starting?  For example, I'm running some program called FooBar99, and I accidentally click the FooBar99 entry in my menu again, I want it to just Alt+Tab for me to the already-running instance, not load up a second one.
[11:28] <gundam_rx78nt1> has anybody been having problems with openssh recently?
[11:29] <gundam_rx78nt1> everytime I try to transfer a file, I get a isconnecting: corrupted MAC on input error and then I am disconnected from the ssh server.
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[11:38] <mgk> chamone
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> check check da cone
[11:38] <mgk> :)
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> that song is hilarious
[11:46] <afeijo> I have too much core versions when I turn on my pc, how to remove most of it?
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> afeijo: do you mean kernel versions?
[11:51] <mgk> think hes talking about the grub menu.
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> me too, just gotta clarify though
[11:51] <mgk> cool beans
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> tasty beans
[11:52] <mgk> :s now i want coffee..
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> afeijo: do you mean there are a lot of options in the first boot up screen (grub menu)
[11:52]  * ActionParsnip has a pint of tea
[11:53] <gundam_rx78nt1> has anybody been having problems with openssh recently?
[11:54] <gundam_rx78nt1> has anybody been having problems with openssh recently?
[11:54] <gundam_rx78nt1> everytime I try to transfer a file, I get a isconnecting: corrupted MAC on input error and then I am disconnected from the ssh server.
[11:55] <afeijo> ActionParsnip: yes, older kernel versions
[11:55] <Laeborg> what does 'Gold' 'Platin' ect on winehq.com means ?
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> afeijo: ok its simple but you gotta be careful
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> Laeborg: its how well it runs
[11:56] <afeijo> ActionParsnip: no problem
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> afeijo: if you run uname -r
[11:56] <Laeborg> so Platin is like perfekt, and Gold is like very good ?
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> afeijo: you will see your CURRENT kernel version. make a note of this
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> Laeborg: pretty much
[11:57] <afeijo> ok
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> afeijo: if you run: dpkg -l | grep linux-image
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> afeijo: you will see ALL installed kernels
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> afeijo: you want to uninstall the kernel versions you no longer require but keep the CURRENT one
[11:58] <afeijo> ActionParsnip: I have 9
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> afeijo: uninstalling them will also update grub
[11:58] <afeijo> the current one is 2.6.24-23
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> afeijo: you're gonna harvest about 50Mb per kernel in space
[11:58] <afeijo> nice
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> afeijo: fine
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> afeijo: once you uninstalled the linux-image packages you dont want, run: sudo apt-get autoremove
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> afeijo: that will remove the modules and other fluff each kernel needed to run
[12:00] <afeijo> what is the command to uninstall?
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> afeijo: sudo apt-get remove linux-image-<some stuff here>
[12:00] <afeijo> k
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> afeijo: as i say, tread VERY carefully
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> afeijo: you can even rerun: dpkg -l | grep linux-image     so you can see whats going on
[12:01] <afeijo> I will remove only the oldest one
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> afeijo: the kernel is the critical part of the system
[12:02] <afeijo> I removed 2.6.24-16, but dpkg -l still shows it
[12:02] <afeijo> apt-get remove told me that cleared 125 mb :D
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> afeijo: does dpkg have 'rr' on the left of the package instead of 'ii'
[12:03] <flaccid> purge
[12:03] <afeijo> the one I removed have rc, the rest ii
[12:04] <ActionParsnip> ok thats ok
[12:04] <ActionParsnip> you can remove it from there with
[12:04] <ActionParsnip> sudo dpkg -P linux-image-<whatever>     (make sure its the EXACT same one)
[12:05] <ActionParsnip> you could even use the up cursor to retype the old command and edit it so you KNOW its good
[12:05] <afeijo> removing -17 and -18
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> afeijo: if you want
[12:06] <afeijo> yeah, why keep so much? :)
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> afeijo: you can run: sudo apt-get --purge remove linux-image-<stuff>
[12:06] <afeijo> I could keep with just the last one, but I will keep 6
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> afeijo: and it will get rid of the 'rc' thing in one move
[12:07] <afeijo> nice
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> afeijo: i personally keep the current and the one previous
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> afeijo: you will probably have a lot of 'rc' packages if you dont use --purge
[12:07] <afeijo> weird that we need to run so much commands, why isnt that automatic or thru control panel?
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> afeijo: you can use synaptic if you wish
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> afeijo: just that irc is a text based app so i give text based help
[12:08] <afeijo> good to know, I also need text commands, I'm runing it thru shell at my home machine lol
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> afeijo: best way to learn the shell
[12:09] <afeijo> yeah, I love shell. I'm not a complete n00b :p
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> hehe i assume nothing here
[12:10] <afeijo> I quit windows almost 1 year ago :D
[12:10] <afeijo> home, office, my note
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> i have to use it for work, othrwise im pure linux for a great many years
[12:11] <afeijo> I work with program development, I still use windows for delphi.  But I also use php, linux is the best option to web develop
[12:11] <afeijo> I love fish://
[12:13] <afeijo> ActionParsnip: thanks for your help
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> np man
[12:29] <makdaknife> afeijo: in general sftp:// is quicker if your ssh supports it
[12:34] <afeijo> makdaknife: thanks, I will test it
[12:34] <afeijo> makdaknife: it works
[12:35] <makdaknife> sftp is designed for working with files over ssh... fish was invented for situations where sftp was not enabled....
[12:35] <makdaknife> afaik
[12:35] <afeijo> cool
[12:36] <afeijo> too bad that FileZilla cant use it on the Local site, I have to mount my home disk and it is quite slow
[12:36] <makdaknife> hmmm never used filezilla... haven't found a need fo it...
[12:37] <afeijo> I use kate to edit php files at my home machine, than I use filezilla to send it to a host
[12:37] <afeijo> any suggestions?
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> afeijo: could just edit it on the remote system with nano
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> or similar
[12:40] <afeijo> the edit isnt the issue, Kate is much better IMO, open several files, code highlight, etc.  To send to my host that I need to mount my home disk, and open filezilla
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> afeijo: then edit fstab so it automounts, what are you trying toachieve?
[12:40] <afeijo> if I had other upload program that could use sftp ... :)
[12:41] <afeijo> ActionParsnip: mount appear to be slower than sftp
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> afeijo: are you in a huge rush?
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> is it like an extra 10 seconds or so?
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> in time?
[12:42] <afeijo> lol, no that is just a bit annoying, I've been doing this for several month
[12:42] <devilsadvocate> afeijo, mount ftp? thats what i do ..
[12:42] <afeijo> Filezilla take over 1 minute to show my home folder content
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> whats the difference in transfer speed in time
[12:43] <afeijo> small files is hard to detect it, but usually under 2 secs
[12:43] <afeijo> but when it slow down, and freeze for over 10 secs, it can damage my site, and users start to send emails to me lol
[12:43] <afeijo> mount with ftp? checking
[12:44] <afeijo> I mount with sshfs
[12:44] <devilsadvocate> afeijo, curlftpfs .  works like a charm. sercurity is a bit iffy, though, so think it  through
[12:44] <afeijo> googling :)
[12:59] <afeijo> who use DC++ ?
[13:05] <chinaski> me
[13:10] <marcel1607> hi
[13:10] <marcel1607> do you find kde 4.2 unstable? i have constant crashes with plasma and freezing the whole system
[13:12] <ActionParsnip> marcel1607: 4.2 is fine, ive not used the 4.2.1 but ive heard some horror stories
[13:13] <marcel1607> the 4.2.1 horror?
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> yeah people saying its buggy and weird
[13:14] <bazhang> which version? 4.2 or 4.2.1
[13:15] <ActionParsnip> 4.2 = fine, 4.2.1 = buggy
[13:15] <bazhang> asking marcel1607
[13:15] <ActionParsnip> just my call, im sure there will be users who say 4.2.1 is fine
[13:23] <hyb> hi
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> !hi | hyb
[13:28] <hyb> where are you?
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> hyb: what do you mean?
[13:34] <afeijo> sftp command support different port than 22 ?
[13:35] <hyb> i just want to know.
[13:36] <afeijo> ActionParsnip: he is curious to know where do you live :)
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> leeds, uk
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> come round for tea
[13:37] <afeijo> is it Andrew ?
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> yes, youu could have just asked
[13:37] <afeijo> I like to dig
[13:37] <devilsadvocate> afeijo, i use dc++
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> afeijo: i'll tell you whatever. i dont wear a tinfoil hat
[13:38] <afeijo> devilsadvocate: nice, I remembered that when I had windows. It work well on linux? I will install it later
[13:38] <afeijo> lol
[13:38] <devilsadvocate> afeijo, it works.. linuxdcpp. i've been wanting to write a kde/qt app for it for sometime though
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> apt-cache search dc | grep ^dc
[13:40] <devilsadvocate> afeijo, valknut used to be the defacto dc++ linux client. linuxdcpp is a clone of the windows dc++ client.
[13:40] <afeijo> I will try it, thanks
[13:42] <afeijo> runing
[13:42] <afeijo> now I need hubs
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> hubs?
[13:43] <afeijo> to DC++
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> oh right
[13:44] <devilsadvocate> afeijo, i just use it with local hubs :)
[13:44] <afeijo> I knew some good sites with nice hubs, I will look into my bookmarks
[13:53] <Spectros> hi
[13:53] <afeijo> ops, DCPP also means Disease Control Priorities Project ... lol
[13:53] <Spectros> I have a problem, if I open any audio file with audacious, it tells me, my kernel of GTK crashed... how can I solve it?
[14:04] <SingAlong> hi all
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> hi SingAlong
[14:05] <SingAlong> I downloaded the Alternate cd image of 8.10 to upgrade to 8.04. I burned the ISO using K3B and inserted the cd back and did Alt+F2 and typed - kdesudo "/media/Kubuntu 8.10 amd64/cdromupgrade" but it says kdesudo error! command not found!
[14:06] <SingAlong> "/media/Kubuntu 8.10 amd64/" is where kubuntu automatically mounted my cdrom
[14:06] <SingAlong> ActionParsnip: any help?
[14:08] <SingAlong> I also tried using the command - sh "/media/Kubuntu 8.10 amd64/" - via terminal but it seems to be downloading via the internet (I got a speed saying 18.1kbps which is my actual internet download speed). MY internet is slow which is why I'm using the alternate cd image to upgrade
[14:11] <SingAlong> is anybody there?
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> SingAlong: is the cd mounted to /
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> oops
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> is it mounted to /media/Kubuntu 8.10 amd64   ?
[14:11] <SingAlong> ActionParsnip: no. its mounted to "/media/Kubuntu 8.10 amd64/"
[14:11] <SingAlong> ActionParsnip: ya
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> strange
[14:11] <Switching> #buglabs
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> anyhoo
[14:11] <SingAlong> ActionParsnip: it auto mounted it
[14:12] <SingAlong> ActionParsnip: any solution to upgrade?
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> SingAlong: weird to use spaces like that...oh well on with the show
[14:12] <SingAlong> ActionParsnip: oh! so thats why I used - kdesudo "/media/Kubuntu 8.10 amd64/" - (the quotes)
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> SingAlong: cd /media/Kubuntu\ 8.10\amd64
[14:12] <SingAlong> ActionParsnip: oh sorry... I ran kdesudo "/media/Kubuntu 8.10 amd64/cdromupgrade/"
[14:13] <ActionParsnip> SingAlong: now, what is the output of: file cdromupgrade
[14:13] <ActionParsnip> SingAlong: basically make your pwd be on the root of the cdrom
[14:13] <SingAlong> ActionParsnip: output? do you want me to open it in vi?
[14:13] <ActionParsnip> SingAlong: no
[14:13] <ActionParsnip> SingAlong: run the command: file cdromupgrade
[14:14] <SingAlong> ActionParsnip: I opened it in kate and it seems to be fine.
[14:14] <SingAlong> ActionParsnip: ah k
[14:14] <SingAlong> ActionParsnip: one sec
[14:14] <ActionParsnip> SingAlong: it will give an output, paste it in here
[14:14] <SingAlong> ActionParsnip: "cdromupgrade: POSIX shell script text executable"
[14:14] <ActionParsnip> SingAlong: great
[14:14] <ActionParsnip> SingAlong: sh ./cdromupgrade
[14:14] <ActionParsnip> oops
[14:14] <ActionParsnip> kdesdo ./cdromupgrade
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> or failing that: kdesdo sh ./cdromupgrade
[14:15] <SingAlong> ActionParsnip: where should I do that?
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> SingAlong: in the same konsole you ran the file command in
[14:15] <SingAlong> ActionParsnip: k
[14:15] <SingAlong> ActionParsnip: but kdesdo says invalid command
[14:15] <noren> ActionParsnipL hi
[14:16] <SingAlong> ActionParsnip: "bash: kdesdo: command not found"
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> SingAlong: try: kdesudo sh ./cdromupgrade
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> SingAlong: are you running kde?
[14:16] <SingAlong> ActionParsnip: should I just run sh ./cdromupgrade?
[14:16] <SingAlong> ActionParsnip: ya kde
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> SingAlong: if the guide says its graphical it needs kdesudo
[14:16] <SingAlong> ActionParsnip: BUt as per what I googled kdesudo seems to be a command that works via kde apps
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> SingAlong: sudo apt-get install kdesudo
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> SingAlong: kdesudo runs gui apps correctly in kde, the gnome equiv in gnome is gksudo
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> SingAlong: if you see people saying to run: sudo kate   it is WRONG
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> or sudo kwite
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> or sudo konqueror
[14:18] <SingAlong> ActionParsnip: so in kde I should run kdesudo instead of just sudo
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> its all incorrect and kdesudo needs to be used
[14:18] <SingAlong> ActionParsnip: k
[14:18] <SingAlong> ActionParsnip: "E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?"
[14:18] <SingAlong> ActionParsnip: But I'm not running any other config or app updater or anything
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> SingAlong: if the upgrade uses a gui interface it needs kdesudo, if its just gonna work inside the konsole then sudo is fine
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> !fixapt
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> SingAlong: you may want to run: ps -ef | grep adept; ps -ef | grep synap; ps -ef | grep apt-
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> SingAlong: see if anything is running to hold the packages
[14:20] <SingAlong> ActionParsnip: done. sudo is working now
[14:20] <SingAlong> ActionParsnip: "kdesudo: Depends: kdebase-runtime (>= 4:4.1.1) but it is not going to be installed"
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> SingAlong: groovy
[14:20] <SingAlong> ActionParsnip: I actually ran an internet based upgrade for a while before and cancelled it since it was slow.
[14:20] <SingAlong> ActionParsnip: then I downloaded an alternate cd
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> SingAlong: you need some form of gui sudo app, like kdesu, gksu, gksudo, whatever
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> SingAlong: as long as the installation stage didnt take place thats fine, its also probably why you had to unlock yur packages
[14:21] <SingAlong> ActionParsnip: when I ran sudo sh ./media/<whatever> it started a gui thing for the upgrade and began fine
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> SingAlong: thats why it needs kdesudo, as its a gui app
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> you should be fine
[14:22] <SingAlong> ActionParsnip: but then I noticed the 4hr waiting time I guessed it was downloading from the net instead of from the cdrom after which I cancelled again
[14:22] <SingAlong> ActionParsnip: it shouldnt take 4hrs when downloading from the cdrom right?
[14:23] <SingAlong> ActionParsnip: should I just run sudo "/media/Kubuntu 8.10 amd64/cdromupgrade" and let it finish the installation?
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> just let it have its fun and upgrade
[14:23] <SingAlong> ActionParsnip: done! starting it :)
[14:23] <SingAlong> ActionParsnip: coz when I ran kdesudo install via sudo I got a broken packages error
[14:24] <SingAlong> ActionParsnip: do I get the black taskbar in kde 4?
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> SingAlong: the default is a black plasma bar, yes
[14:25] <SingAlong> ActionParsnip: I'm fedup of seeing the silver thing in the taskbar
[14:25] <SingAlong> ActionParsnip: :)
[14:25] <SingAlong> ActionParsnip: thank god!
[14:25] <Switching> #ubuntu
[14:27] <ActionParsnip> SingAlong: silver thing?
[14:27] <ActionParsnip> do you mean kicker?
[14:28] <SingAlong> ActionParsnip: ya the taskbar in my kde is silver colored (kde3 in kubuntu 8.04). I'm fedup of that color :)
[14:28] <SingAlong> ActionParsnip: kicker? whats that?
[14:28] <ActionParsnip> you can change its colour
[14:28] <ActionParsnip> SingAlong: its the bottom bar i kde3.5
[14:29] <SingAlong> ActionParsnip: k. so isnt it called taskbar?
[14:29] <devilsadvocate> SingAlong, its 'official' kde name is kicker
[14:29] <ActionParsnip> if you run: killall kicker   it will vanish
[14:29] <devilsadvocate> call it whatever is convenient to you :P
[14:29] <SingAlong> ActionParsnip: when I was installing all the upgrades for 8.04 I was wondering what thing kicker was when downloading LOL
[14:30] <SingAlong> devilsadvocate: thought it was some kinda new game
[14:30] <PKodon> Okay, we'll try here... I can set up an IRC account in Kopete to join channels when I connect to the account, can I do that in Pidgin?
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> in kde4.2 its called plasma
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> PKodon: sure
[14:30] <devilsadvocate> PKodon, yes
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> PKodon: accounts -> manage
[14:31] <PKodon> I looked there, but there seems to be no place to add commands.
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> PKodon: add a new irc account and add the servername, your handle and your pasword (if yuo have registered your handle)
[14:31] <PKodon> Got that.
[14:31] <devilsadvocate> PKodon, they are called favorite channels or some such thing
[14:32] <devilsadvocate> PKodon, oh, i think i was wrong. it might be in some plugin. sorry
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> PKodon: if you click conversation -> alias when in  channel you can add it to your pidgin favourites. When the irc connection is made, they will appear and you can doule click them
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> PKodon: once its favourited, right click it and select autojoin
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> PKodon: job done
[14:33] <devilsadvocate> PKodon, you can also do that by trying to "add chat", which will put the channel in your friends list
[14:34] <PKodon> Hmm, well, Conversation -> Alias is ghosted.
[14:35] <genii> For that you can: /msg nickserv ghost name password                 then you can get the nick again usual way  /nick name
[14:36] <PKodon> Okay, the Add came up with the right stuff.
[14:36] <PKodon> But, what is the Alias in that Add window?
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> PKodon: just accept defaults and the alias will be the channels name
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> PKodon: the rest i have never touched
[14:37] <devilsadvocate> PKodon, alias is the local name, if you dont want it to be called what it actually is, sort of
[14:38] <PKodon> Ahh, okay.
[14:38] <PKodon> Thanks.
[14:39] <PKodon> I like Kopete for YahooIM, but Pidgin is better for IRC, as it gets rid of those huge icons.
[14:40] <Elone_taru> question: how do i start program in shell ,say 'kate
[14:40] <Elone_taru> and have the shell still avaliable?
[14:43] <makdaknife> anyone know what happened to the option to record your desktop in kde4.2?
[14:43] <devilsadvocate> Elone_taru, add an & at the end .. but be prepared for a lot of garbage filling your shell
[14:44] <devilsadvocate> Elone_taru, you can avoid it by something like >/dev/null after the and, but im not sure
[14:45] <devilsadvocate> (and yes, i know its not really garbage... ive found it useful often... but sometimes you just want to launch from shell because krunner is not ... alive)
[14:45] <Elone_taru> devilsadvocate, &? what do that do?
[14:45] <makdaknife> Elone_taru: devilsadvocate is right... something like: kate &>/dev/null
[14:45] <makdaknife> the & will background the process
[14:46] <Elone_taru> i see! ~ Great! thanks ^^
[14:46] <makdaknife> Elone_taru: whoops! looks like you need a space after the &
[14:46] <devilsadvocate> Elone_taru, & runs the process in the background
[14:47] <makdaknife> so: kate & >/dev/null
[14:47] <Elone_taru> ha juse about to ask ;p
[14:47] <Elone_taru>  thanks again ^^
[14:48] <asigalio5> hey does anybody know how connect laptop to TV
[14:48] <Elone_taru> and how do i bring frontground process in shell to bg?
[14:50] <Elone_taru> hmm still have garbage with /dev/null ...
[14:51] <makdaknife> Elone_taru: fg can be used to foreground a process
[14:52] <Elone_taru> bring bring fg to bg?
[14:56] <mmmmmmmmmmmm> gay
[14:56]  * genii sips
[14:59] <slerder> Hey guys. Does anyone know how to create an NTFS partition in ubuntu. I tried to use Gparted but the NTFS option is greyed out. Thanks
[15:00] <Mamarok> slerder: did you try fdisk?
[15:01] <slerder> mamrok think im going to solve it by installing ntfs progs
[15:28] <Elone> ls
[15:28] <Elone> ll
[15:28] <matthew_> ls
[15:28] <matthew_> ll
[15:28] <Elone> oops
[15:28] <matthew_> oops
[15:28] <poldas> cześć
[15:29] <matthew_> :wq!
[15:29] <poldas> mam pytanie odnośnie menadżerów okien
[15:29] <BluesKaj> !cz
[15:29] <poldas> does anyone here use fluxbox window menager??
[15:30] <gherghout> salut
[15:30] <poldas> because I have a question about it
[15:30] <gherghout> j'ai kubuntu 8.10 et je veux installer ubuntuME mais j'ai pas réussit pouvez vous m'aidez ?
[15:30] <BluesKaj> !fr | gherghout
[15:31] <gherghout> merci
[15:33] <BluesKaj> gherghout , de rien
[15:38] <gherghout> i have kubuntu8.10 and i want install ubuntuME but i can't can you help me to do that  please
[15:39] <BluesKaj> gherghout, join #ubuntu , they can help
[15:39] <gherghout> thanks
[15:39] <BluesKaj> np
[15:46] <Elone> !bg
[15:48] <vincenzo> How do I tell konversation to open urls with my favourite web browser?
[15:48] <bab> I'm searching for a function to get the name of an application which has the focus. How could I code it in C?
[16:04] <mefisto__> vincenzo: it should open urls with the default browser. That is konqueror, unless you change it in systemsettings > default applications
[16:04] <mantas> Yra LT ?
[16:07] <mefisto__> vincenzo: you can also set a custom browser in konversation settings: settings > behaviour > general, "use custom web browser"
[16:08] <compilerwriter> help somehow or another I have broken Xwindows.  It all started when I shut down the machine because of a power failure.  When the power came back up I restarted the box and found I had 800X600 res.  I then discovered that I somehow did not have Nvidia drivers installed and tried to install them. Help!
[16:09] <compilerwriter> I have managed to come to you in console mode via irssi somebody please help.
[16:10] <compilerwriter> ?help
[16:11]  * goofey has never heard of ubuntuME
[16:11]  * compilerwriter knows that it exists and is not an apparition
[16:12] <compilerwriter> I don't even really know how to use irssi well.
[16:14] <goofey> compilerwriter: what happens when you try to install the nvidia drivers?
[16:14] <mefisto__> goofey: it's like ubuntuCE but for muslims. apparently "linux for humans" isn't good enough for christians and muslims :)
[16:15] <goofey> mefisto__: lol
[16:15] <noren__> compilerwriter: did u got ur nvidia drivers installed yestarday
[16:15] <compilerwriter> I did the nvidia-xconfig thing and it recommended a driver.  It then downloaded and installed it.  I am now reduced to console.
[16:16] <compilerwriter> noren__ no it did not go well noren.
[16:17] <compilerwriter> noren__ as I was just telling goofey I did the nvidia-xconfig thing.  Now I am coming to you from console login and irssi.
[16:17] <noren__> compilerwriter: did u try to boot into the recovery mode and fix the display there option there to get it back to default
[16:17] <goofey> yeah, i've not had much luck with nvidia-xconfig
[16:18] <compilerwriter> How does one do that noren__ I couldn't remember how and was so upset by the time I had to leave for work that I gave up until now.
[16:18]  * compilerwriter thinks it is so obvious that his days of work on compiler code are so far behind him.
[16:18] <noren__> compilerwriter: while you boot up choose the recoverry mode kernel
[16:19] <mefisto__> compilerwriter: you might need to press esc to see the full grub menu
[16:19] <noren__> compilerwriter; you have the grub installed for boot up frm there
[16:20] <compilerwriter> ok thanks folks I will try that now.
[16:20] <noren__> compilerwriter; yeterday when did not gave me the uptput of ((lsmod | grep nvidia)) <<
[16:29] <compilerwriter> well noren__ goofey It seems that I at least have x back sort of.  Plasma segsev 11 though.
[16:29] <goofey> compilerwriter: that's a start
[16:30] <goofey> compilerwriter: can you run nvidia-settings?
[16:30] <noren> compilerwriter:  export DISPLAY=:0.0
[16:31] <noren> compilerwriter: i see that u are uncomfertable with the irssi lets try make thing easier for you !!
[16:31] <compilerwriter> goofey do I need to open a terminal window or can it be run from console?
[16:31] <noren> goofey:  i dont think he got the drivers installed in the first place
[16:32] <compilerwriter> noren I am not so bad with using irssi except that I don't know its features at all and can't seem to manage to figure out how to bring up help on them to learn them.
[16:32] <goofey> compilerwriter: it's a graphical app that you launch from a terminal app
[16:32] <noren> compilerwriter: that why i am trying to help u to open konversation
[16:32] <goofey> noren: ahh, well, this would tell us that
[16:33] <compilerwriter> goofey so the command line would be exactly what noren.
[16:34] <compilerwriter> As I gather things if we can open konversation then what goofey wants to know will also be answered as well?
[16:34] <noren> compilerwriter:  export DISPLAY=:0.0
[16:34] <pinyo> ???
[16:35] <compilerwriter> Do I need to sudo the export noren?
[16:35] <noren> then type Konsole& or Konsversation& to run them u cud see them in alt ctrl f7
[16:35] <goofey> compilerwriter: wait, aren't you in kde right now?  the only issue is plasma segfaults, right?
[16:35] <noren> no simple export will do
[16:36] <noren> goofey: do u also have the screen resollution problem
[16:36] <compilerwriter> goofey I seem to have a bit of kde going but am not quite sure.  I did have an opera window pop up but the plasma workspace is seg faulting.
[16:36] <gem_> hi
[16:36] <gem_> problem with kubuntu 8.04.1 (8.04.2) and psi 0.11
[16:36] <gem_> If I select the key to use with GnuPG encryption in the account configuration dialog I can't connect to server - the star icon pulses and it tries to connect but without success. If I unselect the GnuPG it connects ok.
[16:36] <gem_> it works with gnome
[16:37] <compilerwriter> noren goofey the resolution problem seems to be fine from the launch of grub to the login screen and the opera window looked like it was in the correct resolution
[16:37] <noren> compilerwriter: so now whats the prob
[16:38]  * goofey is off to a meeting....
[16:38] <compilerwriter> I guess I have no plasma workspace an thus I have no way to use the launcher to fire up windows programs.  I guess it is a usability issue.
[16:38] <compilerwriter> thanks goofey for your help.
[16:40] <compilerwriter> noren I have just had the kde wallet window autolaunch to ask me for the password for kmail to acces my mail in the correct resolution.  I just can't see kmail or either of my virtual desktops.  I still have the grub background on the monitor.
[16:41] <dan_18_45> hola a todos
[16:42] <dan_18_45> quiero convesar con alguien
[16:42] <dan_18_45> a quien le apetece?¿
[16:43] <noren> compilerwriter: what is the error when u fire up plasma ffrm the konsole
[16:44] <compilerwriter> noren tell me how you want me to do it and I will tell you.
[16:44] <noren> compilerwriter: are u able to get the login screen of kdm
[16:44] <noren> compilerwriter: i m trying the figure out at which point are u stuck at the grub, at login , or after login
[16:45] <compilerwriter> yes noren I get logged in and then plasma segfaults and then I get an Opera window.  (It must remember and instance of Opera open or something)  I also eventually get a kwallet box for the paswwords for kmail.
[16:46] <compilerwriter> noren it is after the login when things go South.
[16:46] <noren> compilerwriter: now are u talking to us with irssi or konversation, are u able to launch any other software
[16:47] <compilerwriter> noren on irssi I never made it to try the export thing.
[16:47] <madfrank> salve a tutti
[16:47] <compilerwriter> noren in fact I have quite forgotten the export thing.  I think it was export DISPLAY=0.0
[16:47] <noren> compilerwriter: ok alt ctrl f2 and type export Display=:0.0 and then konsole&
[16:48] <noren> then get back to alt ctrl f7
[16:48] <compilerwriter> noren ok.  I am on f2 now with you in irssi can I do it in f3 and do I need sudo when do the export?
[16:48] <noren> frm the u can lause the basic softwares
[16:49] <noren> compilerwriter: yes
[16:49] <compilerwriter> noren yes to f3 or sudo or both?
[16:50] <noren> use f3 no need for sudo
[16:52] <compilerwriter> noren got error messages and no window in f7
[16:52] <maco> compilerwriter:  i think you need a : before the first 0
[16:53] <compilerwriter> Couldn't find the D-bus server and pipe closed unexpectedly
[16:54] <noren> compilerwriter: export DISPLAY=:0.0
[16:54] <compilerwriter> ok will try again noren
[16:57] <compilerwriter> quit
[16:58] <compilerwriter> Danke lieber Herr Gott noren I am here in a windowed irc client that I know how it works at least better than irssi?
[16:58] <compilerwriter> now noren how in blazes do we fix plasma?
[16:59] <noren> goto f4 and run an konsole panel also
[16:59] <mefisto__> compilerwriter: what version do you have? intrepid 8.10 ?
[17:00] <madfrank> hi all
[17:00] <compilerwriter> noren in f4 I got the same error as when I had the export variable screwed up.
[17:01] <noren> compilerwriter: export DISPLAY=:0.0
[17:01] <compilerwriter> mefisto__ I am in Ibex I beleive.
[17:01] <noren> and then Konsole&
[17:02] <madfrank> join #ubuntu-it
[17:02] <compilerwriter> noren I now have two bash windows running alongside my konversation window.
[17:03] <noren> compilerwriter: oh ok run plasma in that and pastebin the output
[17:04] <mefisto__> compilerwriter: you can also have a konsole  window in konverstation: Window menu, New Konsole
[17:05] <compilerwriter> I created a console tab in konversation but I have no place to input commands.
[17:05] <edgar> canal en español
[17:05] <noren> mefisto__: same prob here also with the consoele tab
[17:05] <noren> !es | edgar
[17:06] <mike> hi all
[17:06] <sparr> how can i go back to the old alt+f2 launcher from kde3 in kde4?  the new one is too slow
[17:06] <edgar> gracias
[17:06] <mefisto__> huh? just switch to the konsole tab and it's just like a konsole window. anyway, it's not important
[17:07] <Guest37152> Now that i have video drivers installed, I cant get a res. past 640x480
[17:08] <Guest37152> I was doing better with them, lol. but I need the hardware accel.
[17:08] <noren> Guest37152: if using nvidia then install nvidia-setting
[17:08] <Guest37152> I did
[17:08] <Guest37152> I get the same options
[17:08] <compilerwriter> http://paste.ubuntu.com/129831/ there you have int noren
[17:09] <Guest37152> everything is so big, I can barely manuver
[17:10] <noren> compilerwriter: oh sio its also dBus error
[17:10] <Guest37152> The only option I have are the res. is 640x480 and under
[17:11] <noren> Guest37152: run the nividia-settings
[17:11] <Guest37152> k
[17:11] <Guest37152> what do I do once there?
[17:11] <sparr> mefisto__: konsole tab?
[17:11] <compilerwriter> noren what in blazes does that mean.  I am thinking guest is having the same problem I am or at least a related one.  could it be an update that finally took hold when I did the system halt.
[17:12] <Guest37152> noren: I'm in settings now. What do I do?
[17:13] <noren> Guest37152: u can change the resolution frm there
[17:13] <o0Chris0o> how do I install firefox for kubuntu?
[17:13] <noren> compilerwriter: urs is different ur driver and screen is fine but the plasma has crashed
[17:14] <noren> o0Chris0o: sudo apt-get install firefox
[17:14] <o0Chris0o> k cause I think I just installed firefox for gnome through adept..
[17:15] <mefisto__> o0Chris0o: same program. there is no firefox for kubuntu
[17:15] <o0Chris0o> oh
[17:16] <compilerwriter> noren I don't think then that I have an nividia driver that is compatible with plasma?  or am I on the wrong track entirely?
[17:17] <mefisto__> compilerwriter: sounds to me like a config problem. I had a similar problem yesterday, and a new xorg.conf fixed it
[17:17] <noren> compilerwriter: did u get the nvidia driver installed yestarday
[17:17] <noren> !nvidia
[17:18] <compilerwriter> noren I got one installed through nvidia-xconfig and then I got to this noren.
[17:19] <mefisto__> noren: was there a problem with nvidia drivers yesterday?
[17:19] <noren> mefisto__: it seemd he neved had the driver installed
[17:20] <compilerwriter> mefisto__ this whole thing started yesterday.  noren and googey determined that I had no nvidia drivers and then when I tried to get some I ended up with plasma segfaulting
[17:20] <noren> compilerwriter: lsmod | grep nvidia <<
[17:20] <o0Chris0o> is there a start page for kubuntu on google?
[17:21] <compilerwriter> nvidia               4717332  0
[17:21] <compilerwriter> i2c_core               31892  1 nvidia
[17:21] <compilerwriter> agpgart                42184  2 nvidia,intel_agp
[17:21] <compilerwriter> There is the output of that command noren
[17:22] <mefisto__> about konsole tab in konversation: it seems it doesn't work in konversation 1.1 but in version 1.0.1 konsole tab does work
[17:23] <sparr> mefisto__: im not using konversation
[17:23] <compilerwriter> I have 1.1 mefisto
[17:23] <sparr> and i have a konsole open, anyways
[17:23] <noren> compilerwriter: u now go the correct driver but the prob is with the plasma.. even i had the same prob when i updated from kde 4.2.0 to kde 4.2.1
[17:26] <compilerwriter> so what do I do then noren
[17:31] <noren> compilerwriter: even i am trying to find the right sollution, i have still not got the correct one
[17:31] <compilerwriter> so how are you using your windows?  Like I am now?
[17:34] <noren> compilerwriter: i never had that much patience i did a fresh install
[17:34] <noren> compilerwriter: you cccan do one thing you can remove the plaaasma folder and it should come back to default
[17:35] <compilerwriter> Where is that little bugger noren and it is toast.
[17:35] <mefisto__> compilerwriter: look in your /etc/X11/ directory and see if you have any backups of xorg.conf
[17:36] <compilerwriter> I have already tried that mefisto__ unfortunately I tried the nvidia-xconfig so many times they were all corrupted.
[17:36] <noren> compilerwriter: you cccan do one thing you can remove the plaaasma folder and it should come back to default
[17:36] <noren> ~/.kde/share/config/plasma-appletsrc
[17:36] <noren> ~/.kde/share/config/plasmarc
[17:37] <noren> mefisto__: its the plasma crashing at bootup
[17:37] <compilerwriter> now I suppose it is time to do a shutdown -r noren?
[17:38] <mefisto__> noren and compilerwriter: I had the same errors with plasma. I noticed something had updated my xorg.conf just slightly. the only difference was that the monitor section came before the device section. I put the device section first, and everything has been fine since then
[17:39] <compilerwriter> It would appear that I may try that next mefisto__ for now I have dusted my plasma files.
[17:40] <noren> compilerwriter: just restart the x serveeer
[17:40] <noren> ctlr alt backspace
[17:40] <mefisto__> compilerwriter: I'm interested to see if that fixes it, since the change in the xorg.conf shouldn't matter asaik
[17:40] <compilerwriter> ctrl alt backsapce it is then.
[17:42] <mefisto__> so noren, reinstalling fixed your plasma problem? have you upgraded to kde 4.2.1 again?
[17:43] <noren> mefisto__: no i have not updated
[17:43] <Machtin> hi guys.. was just trying to install kubuntu 8.10 64bit on a new machine
[17:43] <Machtin> when i select install (also chose secure graphics mode or whatever it's called via F4) it takes some time and he works.. and there's that kubuntu-bar
[17:44] <Machtin> but finally i get a kernel panic and nothing moves no more
[17:44] <Machtin> at least i think it's kernel panic, because capslock and scrolllock are flashing
[17:45] <compilerwriter> Well dusting my plasma files got me back up and operating with some degree of what I had before.  Plasma is working now, but much of my customizations were lost.
[17:45] <Machtin> so: what can i do about it?
[17:46] <mefisto__> Machtin: this is the livecd? and it's not booting?
[17:46] <Machtin> exactly
[17:46] <Machtin> well.. i didn't try it with "live"-booting
[17:46] <Machtin> i directly wanted to install it
[17:47] <compilerwriter> Of course they were most likely stored in the folders that I dusted would be my guess.
[17:48] <compilerwriter> did you get that noren, mefisto__
[17:49] <Machtin> btw. what should i select for the access type in my bios? i can use Normal, Large, LBA, or Manual
[17:49] <noren_> compilerwriter: how did it go
[17:49] <compilerwriter> I have working plasma again.
[17:50] <noren_> compilerwriter: good, wish i had the same solution when mine craashed
[17:50] <compilerwriter> I will have to redo my customizations but I am up and running thanks noren_ mefisto__ and goofey too.
[17:51] <mefisto__> compilerwriter: what did you lose? widgets and desktop wallpaper? or more than that?
[17:51] <compilerwriter> I will never use nvidia-xconfig again.  I am about apt-get remove it.
[17:51] <noren_> compilerwriter: now thaat u have nvidia driveers installed u can set them up with the sudo nvidia-settings
[17:52] <compilerwriter> mefisto__ I lost a widget or two and I was using lancelot instead of the traditional Kmenu widget.
[17:52] <compilerwriter> That and my panel is a bit out of kilter.
[17:54] <compilerwriter> There panel is back to where it belongs.
[17:57] <compilerwriter> noren when I run nvidia-settings it says that I don't appear to be using the nvidia X driver.  It asks me to run nvidia-xconfig as root and restart the x server.  They will be ordering Zambonis in hell before that happens.
[17:57] <mefisto__> Machtin: how old is this motherboard and hard disk? is there no "auto" option?
[17:58] <noren_> yes u have to sudo nvidia-settings
[17:59] <compilerwriter> noren_ it is telling me to run nvidia-xconfig when I try to run nvidia-settings
[18:00] <compilerwriter> I think that is what broke plasma in the first place.
[18:00] <pietje_phuck> Sorry to butt in, but does anyone know why isn't pidgin being updated for kubuntu?
[18:00] <Guest87684> any ideas on the nvidia 8400 gs drivers?
[18:01] <Machtin> mefisto__: very new, both of them
[18:01] <noren_> Guest87684?? what idea
[18:01] <Guest87684> res wont get past 640x480
[18:01] <compilerwriter> oh well if worse comes to worse I suppose I could just dust plasma again.  Shall I give it a go noren_
[18:01] <Guest87684> the invidia setting isnt doing anthing
[18:01] <Machtin> it's a western digital caviar ecogreen or something like that... and a gigabyte-board for i7
[18:02] <rmrfslash> hey, whenever I login, kopete and thunderbird start by default
[18:02] <noren_> compilerwriter: yes u sud, rem how to get back and start konversation if it fails
[18:02] <rmrfslash> how can I stop these?
[18:02] <Machtin> and i think there is no auto-option.. might be "normal"?
[18:02] <compilerwriter> noren_ worst case scenario I know how to get to a console and fire up irssi :-)
[18:02] <Machtin> but i'll recheck.. maybe i didn't see one.
[18:03] <Guest87684> I have the drivers installed
[18:03] <Guest87684> why cant I get the higher res
[18:03] <noren_> compilerwriter: sure
[18:03] <tmeixner> hey guys, I'm planning on installing a KDE version on an USB key to present it to other people. what would be the specs to look out for in a USB key for that?
[18:03] <martijn81> Guest87684:  try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[18:04] <mefisto__> !fixres
[18:04] <noren_> Guest87684: lsmod | grep nvidia
[18:04] <Machtin> Auto large lba and chs it actually is, sorry mefisto__
[18:04] <compilerwriter> The output of nvidia-xconfig noren_ http://paste.ubuntu.com/129858/
[18:04] <tmeixner> Machtin: I have also 2 reappearing applications starting with my KDE session. I'm on 9.04 alpha though so I don't complain (yet) :-)
[18:05] <mefisto__> Machtin: then definitely go with auto. is this a brand new disk, that is, nothing on it currently?
[18:05] <Machtin> mefisto__: absolutely
[18:05] <Machtin> except someone at WD wrote something on it
[18:06] <noren_> compilerwriter: are the driveer installed are correct
[18:06] <Guest87684> http://paste.ubuntu.com/129860/
[18:07] <compilerwriter> Now noren_ If I understand things correctly I should be able to restart the x server and use the new xorg.conf and then run nvidia-settings.  Failing that I should be able to mv the backup back to the xorg.conf and use it and be back to square one.
[18:07] <compilerwriter> I think the drivers are correct noren_
[18:07] <pietje_phuck> ﻿ Does anyone know why pidgin is not being updated for kubuntu?
[18:07] <Machtin> mefisto__: however.. it didn't work with auto.. that's why i changed it
[18:07] <noren_> compilerwriter ; yes
[18:08] <compilerwriter> Three fingered salute to xserver coming right up noren_
[18:09] <francisc1701> Hi! Is it possible to start a screensaver from the commandline in kde3? A screensaver other than the one which automatically starts after 5 minutes
[18:10] <o0Chris0o> how can I burn a avi file in kubuntu? its a dvd movie I made awhile back
[18:11] <noren_> o0Chris0o: use k3b
[18:11] <o0Chris0o> thats where I am at, but I see nothing abotu burning an avi to be playable on a dvd player
[18:12] <Guest87684> what do you think?
[18:14] <Guest87684> can someone give me a hand in the nvidia settings?
[18:15] <noren__> Guest87684: sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings
[18:15] <Guest87684> I have it installed already
[18:16] <noren__> now u cann runn that sudo nvidia-settings
[18:16] <Guest87684> unless you think I need to reinstall
[18:16] <compilerwriter> well noren_ I am back and the new xconfig. is working well enough.
[18:16] <Guest87684> oh ok
[18:16] <compilerwriter> noren_ I guess it is then time to run nvidia-settings
[18:16] <Machtin> mefisto__: any other idea?
[18:16] <noren__> compilerwriter: go ahead
[18:17] <noren__> Daskreech : you therre
[18:17] <DaSkreech> Partly
[18:18] <mefisto__> Machtin: does the kubuntu cd work in other machines?
[18:18] <noren__> DaSkreech: compilerwriter had the sam eprob plasma crash but was solved by removing the files from .kde/share.config
[18:18] <Guest87684> how do I change the res higher than 640x480?
[18:18] <DaSkreech> noren__: Not the same. He had a different crash error
[18:19] <Guest87684> in the nvidia settings, 640 is the highest settings
[18:19] <DaSkreech> assuming that compilerwriter is a he :)
[18:19] <mefisto__> !fixres | Guest87684
[18:19] <Machtin> mefisto__: didn't really try, to be honest.. but i tried the 32bit-version before that (because i forgot that the new machine has 6gbyte RAM) which also didn't work
[18:19] <noren__> DaSkreech: error seemed to me almost same
[18:19] <compilerwriter> DaSkreech you are correct sir
[18:19] <mefisto__> Machtin: have you tried booting a live session?
[18:20]  * compilerwriter assuming DaSkreech is a he.
[18:20] <DaSkreech> compilerwriter: touché
[18:20] <Machtin> mefisto__: no.. would there be any reason to?
[18:20] <noren__> ok guys gotta go almost midnight here !!
[18:20] <mefisto__> Machtin: just to make sure everything is working normally and its not just an installer problem
[18:21] <DaSkreech> noren__: No his was linked with the weather plasmoid I think it was yours was a config cant find ? error
[18:21] <DaSkreech> I mean ?
[18:21] <Machtin> mefisto__: kay, i'll try that
[18:21] <DaSkreech>  /
[18:21] <DaSkreech> ha
[18:22] <noren__> ok will be back after some break !!
[18:23] <Machtin> mefisto__: same issue :/
[18:25] <Guest57576> I restarted X and still the same
[18:25] <compilerwriter> it worked noren__ I wish I knew what I did wrong yesterday.
[18:25] <Guest57576> I got to be missing something
[18:26] <mefisto__> Machtin: try F6 (other options) and remove this from the end     quiet splash --          that will show you boot messages instead of the splash screen, so you might get an idea where it's failing to boot
[18:27] <francisc1701> o0Chris0o: I've googled a bit and found this: http://tinyurl.com/b7fujx It uses a program called "devede" which you can probably find in adept (I can)
[18:30] <Machtin> mefisto__: thanks.. i just self-tested the disc.. there was an error.. i'll just try to burn the image again
[18:31] <mefisto__> Machtin: burn it as slow as your burner software will allow
[18:32] <Machtin> mefisto__: where can i get the md5sum? just to be sure the image is fine
[18:33] <ubunturos> Machtin: from the same location you found the ISO
[18:34] <Machtin> http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/intrepid/MD5SUMS think that's it
[18:36] <Guest57576> crap, still nothing is working
[18:37] <sy> slt
[18:37] <sy> j'ai un probleme
[18:37] <DaSkreech> !fr
[18:37] <sy> avec mon ordi
[18:38] <sy> i have a problem wiyh my compter
[18:38] <sy> how do you install ubuntu cd in compter
[18:38] <ubunturos> ubuntu__: on a live CD?
[18:39] <kirill> Всем привет дайте пожалуйста ссылку где можно аську скачать
[18:39] <ubuntu__> helo
[18:39] <sy> helo
[18:39] <sy> can you help me
[18:39] <DaSkreech> !ru
[18:39] <sy> who can help
[18:39] <DaSkreech> sy: If you tell us the problem perhaps
[18:40] <ubunturos> sy: either you can post it to #ubuntu-fr or here; post your problem, if someone can help, they surely will
[18:40] <sy> i want install cd live cd
[18:40] <sy> ubuntu
[18:41] <sy> i want install ubuntu cd live
[18:41] <sy> but i don't know how to do it
[18:41] <p_quarles> sy: put the cd in the cd drive, reboot
[18:41] <sy> how to reboot
[18:42] <mefisto__> sy: reboot means to restart the computer
[18:53] <Guest57576> need help on nvidia settings
[18:56] <Guest57576> noren: I cant seem the get the res up
[18:56] <Machtin> mefisto__: for some reason.. k3b won't accept when i choose 8x-burning speed.. just burning the third disc
[18:59] <Guest57576> help
[19:02] <Guest57576> help with nvidia settings
[19:03] <Guest57576> not working
[19:08] <mikisid> how to add freenob in quessel
[19:09] <Guest57576> just installed nvidia drivers but can't get the res above 640
[19:09] <Guest57576> can anyone help?
[19:10] <mikisid> how you install this driver from repo or manual
[19:10] <mikisid> does anyone speak serbian
[19:10] <mikisid> my engl is very bad
[19:14] <mikisid> where are all these people
[19:14] <sixofour> try #ubuntu
[19:14] <tmeixner> here is a kde question for you - which process is responsible for the panels in kde (i'm on 4.2.1) the panel froze and I want to kick it off again.
[19:15] <sixofour> you sometimes have to try both channels
[19:15] <mefisto__> tmeixner: I think it's plasma
[19:15] <p_quarles> tmeixner: plasma
[19:15] <tmeixner> lets see what a kill does :-)
[19:16] <p_quarles> restart is killall plasma && /usr/bin/plasma &
[19:17] <mefisto__> sudo killall
[19:17] <mikisid> please help me to add free nob server in ma quassel irc program
[19:18] <p_quarles> mefisto__: no; plasma does not run as root
[19:19] <Guest57576> so does anyone know how to fix this resolution problem?
[19:19] <mefisto__> p_quarles: no, but you need sudo for the killall command
[19:20] <mefisto__> p_quarles: or do you mean plasma can be killed without sudo?
[19:21] <p_quarles> mefisto__: I mean that you are wrong
[19:21] <mefisto__> p_quarles: about what?
[19:21] <p_quarles> mefisto__: about needing sudo; and it's irresponsible to say such things when you don't know
[19:22] <mikisid> Guest57576  -  Go to the Kubuntu forum, and there you will find a solution to your problem
[19:22] <mefisto__> p_quarles: take it easy. if everyone had to be right, there would be no activity in this channel
[19:23] <p_quarles> mefisto__: using root recklessly can get inexperienced users in needless trouble
[19:24] <mefisto__> p_quarles: ok, thanks for correcting me
[19:31] <DaSkreech> mefisto__: in most cases if you started a process you don't need sudo to stop it
[19:31] <DaSkreech> Otherwise you would have to kdesudo to close every window you opened
[19:44] <manuela> ciao
[19:45] <heinkel_111> Question: if you load a cdrom into the cdrom or dvdrom drive, which user do you get as owner, and what group do you files get?
[19:50] <warlock2> se supone que la opcion de imagenes que se cambian es para presentaciones o fotos. No se si en la version 4.2 se podrá cambiar el tiempo a menos de 1 min
[19:50] <warlock2> pardon
[19:50] <nereida> salut
[19:51] <mefisto__> !es
[19:52] <warlock2> excuse me, its error ;)
[19:54] <heinkel_111> Question: if you load a cdrom into the cdrom or dvdrom drive, which user do you get as owner, and what group do you files get?
[19:54] <Machtin> mefisto__: finally installed it, thanks :)
[19:55] <heinkel_111> can someone please just make a quick test and tell me how a standard kubuntu installation works, please?
[19:55] <mefisto__> Machtin: so it was just a bad CD?
[19:55] <Machtin> however.. i got a new issue: kubuntu doesn't recognize the ethernet.. if i do ifconfig -a it just shows lo and something starting with p..
[19:56] <Machtin> mefisto__: two bad CDs plus i used another device to read the discs
[19:56] <Machtin> i think the first one also had some issue.. can't explain to myself, tbh.
[19:57] <Machtin> well.. actually i'm now looking for network drivers for this mainboard: GA-EX58-UD4P google couldn't help yet.
[20:00] <mefisto__> Machtin: does  lshw -C network     show anything?
[20:01] <gabriel> has anyone managed to get a good looking firefox in kubuntu 8.10 with kde4.2?
[20:02] <maco> gabriel: looks fine if you just let gtk be gtk
[20:02] <maco> set it to use clearlooks or something. using a qt theme looks bad on all the gtk apps ive tried
[20:02] <noren> hi
[20:02] <maco> (dont even have scrollbars in terminator if i use qt theme)
[20:03] <Machtin> mefisto__: it shows something about "pan0"? and it says DISABLED..
[20:03] <Machtin> but pan != eth, no?
[20:04] <mefisto__> gabriel: there is a firefox theme which tries to mimic kde4 style here: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/7574
[20:06] <mefisto__> gabriel: also, installing gtk2-engines-qtcurve and setting gtk2 apps to use qtcurve in systemsettings makes web widgets look better
[20:06] <gabriel> mefisto__:  aha thank you!
[20:06] <mefisto__> gabriel: that firefox theme isn't perfect though
[20:10] <gabriel> mefisto__: so what is the best alternative?
[20:11] <tibo> bonsoir
[20:12] <mefisto__> gabriel: well that theme is what I'm using. but some menus for extension settings, etc, don't show tickboxes when they should, and no highlight when you mouse over some menu items
[20:12] <gabriel> mefisto__: well i think it looks good enough. Before it was looking BUGGY at the tabs
[20:12] <gabriel> well, in a months time google will release chrome for linux, wasn't it?
[20:13] <noren> gabriel: is chrome rreally worth using
[20:14] <Machtin> mefisto__: sorry, i don't want to bother you.. but i really am stuck at this point again.. any idea?
[20:14] <mefisto__> that's just what I was thinking. will it be any better than konqueror?
[20:14] <gabriel> noren: perhaps not yet... but i actually liked it
[20:15] <tmeixner> yes - thanks for the tip with firefox - much better now. There seems to be a fix for the profile of firefox on 4.2.1 but it doesn't seem to have any effect.
[20:15] <mefisto__> Machtin: I'm not too expert in networking stuff at all. I think pan0 refers to bluetooth. maybe ethernet is disabled in BIOS?
[20:15] <noren> mefisto__: yes i liked kpnqueror its really light weight and also using opendsn its lightening fast
[20:16] <Machtin> mefisto__: i'm still grateful for any help.. i'll check that
[20:17] <mefisto__> noren: have you tried arora? even lighter than konqueror, but it's still quite young and new. looks promising though
[20:17] <noren> mefisto__: where can i get hand on that
[20:18] <mefisto__> !info arora
[20:18] <Machtin> hm, it wasn't disabled.. hm
[20:18] <pi_> Hello
[20:18] <gabriel> is there anyway to make my side button of the mouse work as a back button in dolphin or nautilus?
[20:19] <noren> !hi | pi_
[20:20] <pi_> i've got a program that connects to a usb device, however, it needs to be run under sudo to get access. When I run it as sudo, the file permissions for everything it writes to is messed up. So basically, I'd like to figure out a way to let my user account access usb devices, without having to write an fstab entry (it's not a harddisk device or usb pen drive, i dont want to mount it manually)
[20:20] <pi_> is this possible?
[20:20] <pi_> *program sorry
[20:20] <genii> pi_: Usually if a user is in the group called "plugdev" they can use usb devices without special rights
[20:21] <pi_> great, thanks
[20:23] <tmeixner> I'm on alpha 5 atm. Does it actually help the developers in alpha status if I send the crash reports?
[20:23] <genii> tmeixner: It doesn't hurt
[20:25] <Sipox> hello. someone German here?
[20:25] <genii> Sipox: You may find some in the channel #kubuntu-de
[20:25] <Sipox> heey, thank you :D
[20:25] <genii> Anytime
[20:26] <Sipox> Thats nice :)
[20:29] <mefisto__> gabriel: you could use xmodmap to do that. see man xmodmap, or google for "xmodmap mouse ubuntu"
[20:31] <gabriel> it works by default in firefox... that made my really happy :)
[20:31] <gabriel> that was one more step forward for ubuntu
[20:32] <darius_> I have a question
[20:33] <mefisto__> gabriel: does it work in konqueror too (as a web browser)?
[20:33] <darius_> anyone here highly learned in the computer field
[20:35] <darius_> Whatever im asking the question
[20:35] <noren_> mefisto__: is arora google and chrome related by any means
[20:35] <gabriel> mefisto__: nope, not in konky
[20:35] <darius_> I have boot and nuked my other pc and probably fucked up the Partition info.
[20:36] <mefisto__> noren_: I don't think so, other than google contributed code to arora
[20:36] <darius_> I have the UBCD but I get NTDLR missing errors
[20:37] <darius_> How do i format it for XP
[20:38] <darius_> anyone here!!!!
[20:39] <noren_> darius_: did u had multi boot there
[20:39] <noren_> !grub
[20:40] <darius_> No i need to install windows first because it can't read linux partitions
[20:40] <darius_> i need windows for games linux for everything else
[20:40] <darius_> but windows wouldn't install after linux
[20:41] <noren_> darius_: then install windows first whats the prob
[20:41] <darius_> windows isn't booting from the disc
[20:41] <darius_> i get NTDLR missing error
[20:42] <darius_> i think i fuked with the partition table in the wrong way\
[20:42] <noren_> darius_: see the above link to restore the grub
[20:42] <darius_> ok , will that help with my windows problem?
[20:43] <objorn> in the manual partitioner during install, how do you specify the swap, root, and home partitions?
[20:44] <p_quarles> objorn: by specifying mount points; / for root, /home for home, and none for swap
[20:45] <objorn> ?
[20:45] <objorn> i have /dev/hda1 as boot
[20:45] <noren_> objorn: while crreating a new partiotion u have to give mount point there u ccan mention / or /home /root
[20:45] <objorn> /dev/hda2 as swap
[20:45] <objorn> /dev/hda3 as root
[20:45] <p_quarles> objorn: if you have questions, perhaps you could elaborate beyond "?"
[20:45] <objorn> and then the rest are specified via lvm
[20:46] <objorn> where do you specify these mount points?
[20:46] <noren_> objorn: edit the partion to change the mount point of the specified
[20:46] <p_quarles> the partitioner has a field called "mount point"
[20:46] <darius_> norren grub only helps restore linux, how does that help me?
[20:46] <objorn> aaah
[20:47] <noren_> darius_: u can install the windows and restore the linux
[20:47] <darius_> ok im going to install grub using the UBCD and I'll let you know what happens\
[20:48] <darius_> and most likely ask more Q's
[20:55] <bobbob1016> I'm trying KDE4.2 again, and when I enable compiz, I get a white window in the middle of the screen with a blue/purple border.  Any ideas?
[20:56] <JontheEchidna> !comipz
[20:56] <JontheEchidna> !compiz
[20:57] <heinkel_111> bobbob1016: why not just use the standard KDE4.2 compositing?
[20:57] <bobbob1016> heinkel_111, Because I prefer compiz
[20:58] <ActionParsnip> bobbob1016: i'd try some xorg.conf options
[20:58] <heinkel_111> bobbob1016: why is compiz better?
[20:58] <bobbob1016> heinkel_111, I used it last time I tried kde4, without playing with settings.
[20:58] <bobbob1016> That was for ActionParsnip
[20:59] <bobbob1016> heinkel_111, I prefer it, doesn't mean one is better than the other.
[20:59] <ActionParsnip> bobbob1016: well there will have been newer versions ofapps and services since then
[21:00] <heinkel_111> bobbob1016: I am just interested in knowing why people spend so much time configuring their dekstop to use compiz when so much of the same functionality (and a kde native manager) is available for default
[21:00] <ActionParsnip> bobbob1016: so that may be causing an issue and you need to retweak
[21:00] <bobbob1016> It was kde4.2 last time, I think, was a few weeks ago.
[21:00] <heinkel_111> bobbob1016: you are not the only one that does this, and that is what has made me curioous
[21:01] <bobbob1016> heinkel_111, I didn't tweak anything to get gnome to get it to work.
[21:01] <bobbob1016> So I was just wondering what this new issue was, since I haven't changed anything apart from reinstalling kde again.
[21:03] <ActionParsnip> bobbob1016: i'd check some xorg.conf options for your video card with relation to compiz
[21:04] <bobbob1016> ActionParsnip, I'll take a look again, but I haven't had to play with xorg settings for a while, like since gutsy or feisty even.
[21:04] <ActionParsnip> personlly I think compiz is not woh he hasstle
[21:04] <o0Chris0o> I am trying to find a DVD ripper, for chapters, specifically music videos, can someone point me in the right direction?
[21:05] <ActionParsnip> bobbob1016: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-virtualbox-21-in-ubuntu-810-intrepid-ibex804-hardy-heron.html
[21:05] <ActionParsnip> o0Chris0o: acidripmabe
[21:05] <ActionParsnip> !info acidrip
[21:05] <o0Chris0o> thanks ActionParsnip
[21:05] <bobbob1016> ActionParsnip, How does virtualbox help me?
[21:06] <sixofour> how do i change the permissions of two partitions?
[21:06] <sixofour> i have 3 drives, OS, 104 and 42...OS needs to be locked for sudo and 42 and 104 need to be open
[21:06] <ActionParsnip> bobbob1016: wrong target, sorry
[21:06] <sixofour> right now its the opposite
[21:08] <bobbob1016> ActionParsnip, I need libplasma.so.2 to install compiz-kde, you know a repo that has that by chance?
[21:09] <ActionParsnip> bobbob1016: apt-file search libplasma.so.2
[21:09] <ActionParsnip> bobbob1016: sudo apt-get install libplasma2
[21:11] <darius_> Ok that didn't work noren
[21:11] <darius_> anyone ever use UBCD
[21:12] <noren_> darius_: what was the error
[21:12] <ActionParsnip> darius_: LOADS!
[21:12] <darius_> Error 15 missing file
[21:12] <ActionParsnip> darius_: its killer dude
[21:12] <darius_> it wouldnt allow me to install grub
[21:13] <darius_> i fucked it up big time
[21:13] <ActionParsnip> darius_: your ubuntu live cd will allow you to install grub
[21:13] <ActionParsnip> !grub
[21:14] <darius_> so i install linux but then i am back to square one
[21:14] <darius_> how do i take it off and install Windows first
[21:14] <darius_> well fuck it let me get grub with linux first
[21:15] <ActionParsnip> darius_: o, you only use the live cd to install grub to the chosen disk
[21:15] <o0Chris0o> ActionParsnip: Having issue starting the burn, I click on start, and the application goes away, I just tried it a few times
[21:16] <noren_> darius_: find /grub/stage1
[21:16] <demon_> i need a lil help over here with monitor setting pls help
[21:17] <darius_> ok hold on
[21:17] <mefisto__> demon_: just ask, and someone will help if they can
[21:17] <demon_> well its monitor settings i cant set my monitor
[21:17] <demon_> if i put the other one i have its cool but when i put this one its not pls help
[21:17] <noren_> demon_: what is the prob specify !!
[21:18] <ActionParsnip> o0Chris0o: starting what burn?
[21:18] <antoranz> join  #ubuntu+1
[21:18] <demon_> i am running on 640*480
[21:18] <antoranz> sorry
[21:18] <asigalio5> hey does anybody know how to make ntfs in kubuntu?
[21:18] <o0Chris0o> ripping a video from a disc, sorry
[21:19] <demon_> can some one set my xorg for my monitor pls
[21:19] <noren_> demon_: whats the diff betweenn two monitors
[21:20] <ActionParsnip> asigalio5: you need ntfs-tools
[21:20] <demon_> they are the same size just different brand :D
[21:20] <darius_> how am i finding /grub/stage1
[21:20] <ActionParsnip> asigalio5: apt-cache search ntfs
[21:20] <asigalio5> what? :)
[21:21] <sixofour> i have 3 drives, OS, 104 and 42...OS needs to be locked for sudo and 42 and 104 need to be open
[21:21] <sixofour> right now its the opposite
[21:21] <sixofour> how do i change permissions
[21:21] <ActionParsnip> asigalio5: you need ntfs tools, the actual package name will show up in the apt-cache command, you can then use gparted to format the partition
[21:22] <ActionParsnip> sixofour: chmod and chown
[21:22] <asigalio5> hmm
[21:22] <noren_> !grub | darius_
[21:22] <sixofour> yes , how?
[21:22] <sixofour> typing chown doesn't magicly do what i need it to do :S
[21:23] <o0Chris0o> ActionParsnip: I was trying to rip a video from a music dvd disc, a chapter
[21:23] <asigalio5> ActionParsnip:  how to start application qtparted?
[21:23] <noren_> o0Chris0o: what are u using acidrip
[21:23] <sixofour> type qtparted into konsole
[21:24] <darius_> can i do this with a flash drive instead
[21:24] <sixofour> asigalio5:
[21:24] <o0Chris0o> noren_: yeah I am
[21:24] <sixofour> you might need sudo
[21:24] <ActionParsnip> asigalio5: gksudo gparted
[21:24] <ActionParsnip> sixofour: gpagted is a gu iapp, so needs gksudo
[21:25] <sixofour> i just do sudo qtparted and it opens
[21:25] <sixofour> well, sudo gparted
[21:25] <sixofour> so how do i use those commands to change permission?
[21:25] <noren_> darius_: u need Bootable Desktop/Live CD.
[21:25] <p_quarles> except Kubuntu uses kdesudo
[21:26] <mefisto__> sixofour: that can cause problems with gui apps. that's why there's kdesudo and gksudo
[21:26] <sixofour> dunno, ive never used kdesudo command before
[21:26] <darius_> ok i have a live cd but when i find grub can i put it on a flash drive
[21:26] <mefisto__> !sudo
[21:27] <DukeDrake> is there something like a manual for kubuntu on the net?
[21:27] <sixofour> !manual
[21:27] <demon_> !xorg
[21:28] <ActionParsnip> sixofour: sudo doesnt set up the environment for gui apps, thats why gksudo exists
[21:28] <ActionParsnip> DukeDrake: theres manual pages for every command (and a few conf files) already on your system
[21:29] <ActionParsnip> DukeDrake: you'd get less frustrated if you think "how do i do x" rather than "what can i do"
[21:29] <test> hi folks -- got a machine here that is not detecting what the monitor and video card can do correctly -- it thinks that it can only do 800x600 but at work i had it running at 1024x768 just a lil bit ago -- how can i bypass the autodetection routine and make this thing give me the resolution i want?
[21:29] <sixofour> anyways, my permissions thingy?
[21:29] <ActionParsnip> test: set it in xorg.conf
[21:30] <test> ActionParsnip: ok -- is there an example someplace i can work from?
[21:30] <test> its been a while since i did that and i dont remember the syntax correctly
[21:30] <DukeDrake> ActionParsnip: k, thanx =)
[21:31] <ActionParsnip> test: http://pastebin.com/f74b493e4
[21:31] <ActionParsnip> test: backup your original first
[21:31] <test> ActionParsnip: thank you
[21:31] <test> ok
[21:33] <coreyman> since i configured my network device in the network file... can i remove knetwork manager
[21:35] <ActionParsnip> coreyman: sure can
[21:36] <mefisto__> coreyman: notice how positively ActionParsnip answered yes?
[21:36] <coreyman> cool
[21:36] <demon_> who can put more resolution in Xorg :P
[21:36] <test> ActionParsnip: is the driver for ATI cards "aglx"?
[21:36] <mefisto__> test: fglrx
[21:37] <test> mefisto__: thank you --- fuzzy memory
[21:37] <ActionParsnip> or it can be ati or radeon ;)
[21:37] <coreyman> what is the name of knetwork manager so i can remove it from apt-get
[21:37] <ActionParsnip> coreyman: dpkg -l | grep network | grep mana
[21:37] <test> ActionParsnip: thank you
[21:38] <coreyman> wtfreak does that say
[21:38] <mefisto__> coreyman: ahh, I think it's networkmananger-kde or similar
[21:39] <ActionParsnip> just query what is installed then reove whats not needed
[21:40] <coreyman> k thx guys bye
[21:43] <Guest84583> i'm having trouble with the nvidia drivers for my system. the resolution won't go past 640. anyone know what i need to do?
[21:44] <mefisto__> common problem today
[21:44] <mefisto__> !fixres
[21:45] <o0Chris0o> Anyone here familiar with AcidRip? I am running into problems, I am currently running 8.10 Hardy Kubuntu. I am trying to rip some music videos off of my dvd disc, the DvD loads fine, when I click to start the process, the program closes
[21:46] <mefisto__> Guest84583: the xorg.conf example at the bottom of that page is what you need. use gtf or cvt to generate modelines
[21:55] <mefisto__> o0Chris0o: you might have better luck with dvdrip
[21:59] <antoranz> I can't start kde on jaunty... it could be related to another problem I have with apt (a segmentation fault)
[21:59] <antoranz> so I'm on the failsave
[22:00] <noren_> hey i wanted to install kubuntu 64bit is there a way installing it without burning a cd
[22:00] <antoranz> I can start kwin, but that only renders the window decorations
[22:00] <antoranz> what can i call that rendered the menu, etc?
[22:01] <antoranz> try with a virtual machine writing on your disks... but that will require some hacking (I think) to be able to start later on the real hardware
[22:05] <Guest84583> where do i enter the xorf cofig at?
[22:07] <Guest84583> i'm new to the system and i can't figure out how to get my res up? i have no clue where to enter a xorf config at or anything else
[22:07] <doleyb> noren_: yes there's a way, what is installed now?
[22:09] <usuario> oi
[22:10] <usuario> algum brasileiro?
[22:10] <usuario> preciso de ajuda
[22:10] <Wazmyn> !br
[22:10] <usuario> estou com o Linux, nunca usei
[22:10] <noren_> doleyb:; i got kubuntu 8.10 and also ubuntu 7.10 onn different partitiion
[22:11] <confrey> hi everybody
[22:11] <tacosarecool> !offtopic
[22:13] <confrey> I've just installed kubuntu and kde4.2, I'm using a eeepc, I tried to install eeepc-acpi-scritps, but it seem it needs a dipendencie : acpi-support-base, but it's not existing in ubuntu, what can I do?
[22:13] <Guest72257> can someone please assist me with getting my nvidia drivers fixed?
[22:14] <Guest72257> i'm new to the system just got it today and don't know much about it
[22:14] <noren_> Guest72257: lsmod | grep nividia
[22:14] <goofey> Guest72257: best to just state the problem you're having rather than asking for generic nvidia help - if someone knows the answer they will respond
[22:15] <Guest72257> ok i have updated drivers but my res won't go past 640. i don't know how to fix this or what menu to go to
[22:15] <noren_> Guest72257: sudo apt-get nividia-settings
[22:16] <Guest72257> in konsole right?
[22:16] <noren_> yes
[22:16] <tacosarecool> no one is in off-topic ..(
[22:16] <mefisto__> noren_: install?
[22:17] <tacosarecool> Can I ask my question here?
[22:17] <noren_> mefisto__: yes yes trying to figure out a way
[22:18] <mefisto__> noren_: no I mean sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings  ^^
[22:18] <tacosarecool> Well is burning wavs to a data cd the equivalent to burning a audio cd?
[22:18] <mefisto__> tacosarecool: not at all equivalent
[22:18] <Guest72257> and what next?
[22:19] <tacosarecool> oh I'm trying to keep the lyrics though
[22:19] <tacosarecool> of the music
[22:19] <tacosarecool> if it's already a wav will it convert over again? or will it not overwrite
[22:19] <noren_> Guest72257: sudo nvidia-settings
[22:19] <Guest72257> it says i'm using the latest version
[22:19] <goofey> tacosarecool: I think that depends if audio cd's support lyrics
[22:20] <goofey> Guest72257: good
[22:20] <tacosarecool> and actually someone on my IM said it is equivalent
[22:20] <tacosarecool> and he's an audiophile
[22:20] <Guest72257> so why won't my res go over 640?
[22:20] <goofey> tacosarecool: well, there's one way to find out for the cost of 1 cd
[22:20] <goofey> Guest72257: run kdesudo nvidia-settings - you can change the rez with that app
[22:21] <goofey> Guest72257: just like noren_ said
[22:22] <mefisto__> tacosarecool: audiocd is definitely not the same as a data cd with wav files
[22:22] <Guest72257> goofey  it won't let me set it past 640
[22:23] <tacosarecool> but will data cd with wav work with mp3 players
[22:23] <tacosarecool> I mean
[22:23] <tacosarecool> cd players
[22:23] <goofey> tacosarecool: not likely
[22:23] <tacosarecool> oh ok thanks
[22:23] <goofey> since they won't be audio cd's
[22:23] <mefisto__> tacosarecool: depends on the cd player. many of them play mp3 files
[22:23] <tacosarecool> but I'm talking about burning wavs to a data cd
[22:24] <goofey> tacosarecool: well, anything that can play mp3's will likley play wavs
[22:24] <tacosarecool> wavs are what usually burn on k3b or gnomebake on audio d
[22:24] <tacosarecool> cd
[22:24] <mefisto__> tacosarecool: again, depends on the player. I've never seen a CD player that plays wav files, but there are ones that play mp3s
[22:25] <mefisto__> tacosarecool: get an audiocd and look at the files on it. not wav files at all
[22:25] <flabr> hi there...what is the command to determine which graphic card I have?
[22:25] <goofey> tacosarecool: sure, k3b burns wavs to audio cds, but the format of the cd is differnet from data cd's - that
[22:25] <flabr> i know it is ATI
[22:25] <goofey> that
[22:25] <goofey> 's the issue
[22:25] <Guest72257> how do i get to the forum?
[22:26] <goofey> Guest72257: nvidia-settings won't go past 640?
[22:26] <noren_> Guest72257: whichhh forum
[22:26] <sixofour> sudo unrar e x Outgoing.rar doesn't work, but i need both options [e and x]
[22:27] <Guest72257> no they won't  go past 640 and i'll go to any forum that will help
[22:27] <mefisto__> !fixres
[22:28] <noren_> Guest72257: lspci | grep -i ati
[22:30] <goofey> sixofour: seems to me the command would be unrar -ex Outgoing.rar
[22:31] <sixofour> it doesn'ty work
[22:31] <sixofour> it says incorrect useage blah blah
[22:31] <mefisto__> sixofour: does having both e and x make sense?
[22:31] <sixofour> e extracts to current directy and X keeps filepaths
[22:31] <sixofour> x*
[22:32] <flabr> hi there...anyone knows where i can find a driver for ATI Technologies Inc M56P [Radeon Mobility X1600] ... ???
[22:32] <noren_> hey i wanted to install kubuntu 64bit is there a way installing it without burning a cd
[22:32] <goofey> sixofour: if by full path they mean starting with /, then no, it doesn't make sense to do both
[22:33] <noren_> flabr: lspci | grep -i ati
[22:33] <sixofour> what?
[22:33] <sixofour> if i use just e it dumps each file without preserving directory tree
[22:33] <goofey> noren_: I've heard you can put the "live cd" on a thumb drive
[22:33] <sixofour> i tried with sudo unrar x Outgoing.rar /mnt/104/ and it works
[22:34] <noren_> goofey: cant i do that dirrectly from an iso
[22:34] <sixofour> how do i change write permissions for /mnt104/ and /mnt42/
[22:34] <sixofour> ?
[22:34] <sixofour> ./mnt/42/*
[22:34] <flabr> noren_: thanks...just found the driver...my card is .. Radeon Mobility X1600 ... thanks
[22:34] <goofey> noren_: if it's not one one of the places that your going to install to, yes - mount the iso using loop
[22:34] <sixofour> both currently require sudo, while /too/ doesn't :/
[22:34] <sixofour> ./root*
[22:35] <goofey> sixofour: maybe try without the e flag? (ie, no flags at all)
[22:35] <sixofour> ugh...man, typos for the loss
[22:35] <sixofour> that will destroy my install
[22:35] <sixofour> kubuntu install;
[22:35] <noren_> goofey:;;; well i wanna install onn a different partition
[22:35] <sixofour> because the archive is bigger than the drive my OS is on lol
[22:35] <sedeki> is there a good iTunes equvialent?
[22:36] <goofey> sixofour: and how was e or x going to get around that issue?
[22:36] <sixofour> e extracts to the directory you are in
[22:36] <sixofour> not the /home/ folder
[22:37] <sixofour> x preserves the file system of the archive
[22:37] <sixofour> the archvie has about 20 folders 200 subfolders and about 687625 files
[22:37] <sixofour> all which need to be intact
[22:38] <sixofour> only using 3 removes the folders and just dumps every file into  the directory
[22:38] <sixofour> e*
[22:39] <goofey> sixofourI *think* you may misunderstand the purpose of the e flag.  I *think* it says to flatten the subdirectories.  running the unrar command should output to the current directory, not the directory the rar file is in.  What do you think?
[22:39] <goofey> noren_: so you want to install without booting to the install media?
[22:39] <noren_> !fixres
[22:39] <sixofour> sudo unrar /pathrofile/ will always extact to /home/
[22:39] <sixofour> doesn't matter where the archive is or where you are
[22:40] <sixofour> atleats that is my expriense
[22:40] <goofey> sixofour: that doesn't sound right
[22:40] <sixofour> beside si did it without using e
[22:40] <sixofour> i specified an output fodler
[22:40] <noren_> goofey: i just dont want to burn one more cd i have the kubuntu 64bit iso  wanna istall that
[22:41] <goofey> noren_: right, but how to install without booting to the install media?
[22:41] <sixofour> sudo unrar x Outgoing.rar /mnt/104/
[22:41] <goofey> noren_: I'm not aware of a way to do that
[22:42] <noren_> goofey: thats right ii got this linnkk but trying to figure out what it says >> http://www.linuxbasement.com/content/installing-ubuntu-or-other-distributuin-without-burning-a-cd
[22:42] <sixofour> anyways
[22:42] <sixofour> how do i change write permissions for a whole partition?
[22:43] <sixofour> i want to lock the OS partition and open 104 and 42
[22:43] <sixofour> right now i need sudo to modify 104 and 42, but not the OS drive
[22:44] <MrLDK> sixofour: man chmod , man chown
[22:44] <sixofour> man chmod?
[22:44] <mefisto__> sixofour: and maybe man fstab
[22:44] <sixofour> ???
[22:45] <sixofour> if it was as easy as knowing the command i wouldn't even be asking
[22:45] <mefisto__> sixofour: man <command> will give you a manual on that command
[22:45] <sixofour> typing chwon into knosle does nothing, so i asume there is more to it
[22:45] <GWild> hello all
[22:46] <goofey> noren_: that page makes my head explode (and I used Gentoo for 5 years)
[22:47] <GWild> goofey: Ah - I just stopped after 3.........
[22:47] <noren_> goofey: same here, me trying to google some more
[22:49] <mefisto__> noren_: have you seen this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromLinux
[22:52] <gabriel_> i'm gussing there is no way to run IE in a tab in firefox?
[22:54] <mefisto__> gabriel_: it can be done in windows, with a firefox extension. no idea if it would work in linux, but you would need IE installed first anyway
[22:54] <sixofour> yes but this still doesn't explaine chown lol
[22:54] <gabriel_> mefisto__: yeah it said IE tab is not supported in linux
[22:54] <sixofour> change the owner of a partition...to....what?
[22:55] <sixofour> what group is the one that doesn't need sudo to access the files
[22:55] <mefisto__> sixofour: to your user? who owns it now?
[22:55] <gabriel_> we use outlook web access at work, and you can only get full functionality if you run it in IE :/
[22:55] <sixofour> there is only one user sixofour
[22:55] <sixofour> so i asume sixofour owns everything
[22:56] <tmeixner> gabriel_: You can install ie6 on linux: http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page It's for webdevelopers who need to test on ie6.
[22:56] <sixofour> but i still need sudo to alter 104 and 42
[22:56] <sixofour> [104 and 42 are two partitions]
[22:56] <gabriel_> tmeixner: coolers.. and then u think IE tab will work even?
[22:56] <sixofour> and i don't need sudo to alter, i guess its /root/
[22:56] <mefisto__> sixofour: no, sixofour owns sixofour's files. that's why you need sudo to do things in directories not owned by you
[22:57] <sixofour> so i need to put /mnt/104/ and /mnt/42/ in sixofour's ownership?
[22:57] <maco> gabriel_: IE tab requires that you be on Windows still
[22:57] <tmeixner> I don't know what ie tab is, it's just the ie6 binaries installed in wine.
[22:57] <sixofour> but sixofour is the admin :/
[22:57] <maco> gabriel_: go with ies4linux as tmeixner suggested
[22:57] <maco> tmeixner: its a firefox extension for wndows that uses IE's renderer inside a firefox tab instead of gecko
[22:58] <maco> tmeixner: it does requie that you're on an IE-native system though
[22:58] <mefisto__> sixofour: ls -l to see which user owns them. are they linux partitions? also, they could be mounted read-only
[22:58] <gabriel_> maco: so... yeah i will still have to fire up IE to view our crappy web mail then... damn MS
[22:58] <tmeixner> maco: that's like putting lipstick on a pig
[22:58] <sixofour> they are both ext3
[22:59] <sixofour> how do i leave "man"?
[22:59] <mefisto__> sixofour: Q
[22:59] <sixofour> uh..root owns everything
[22:59] <sixofour> er
[22:59] <sixofour> this is jsut this drive
[22:59] <sixofour> er files
[22:59] <sixofour> i want the whole drive
[23:03] <mefisto__> sixofour: then you would use chown -R sixofour:sixofour /mount/point/of/partition  to do all the files
[23:05] <sixofour> how do i find the owner of / ?
[23:06] <GWild> sixofour: ls -l or ls -a
[23:06] <mefisto__> sixofour: you don't want to change /   it should be    root  root
[23:06] <mefisto__> sixofour: so it would be ls -l /      to list  /
[23:09] <sixofour> is there a not so crappy brwoser otu there for files?
[23:09] <sixofour> dolphin is ...well, lets not go there
[23:09] <peaches> no wait let's go there
[23:09] <adi_> hi all
[23:09] <sixofour> ujsing kongqueror atm
[23:10] <sixofour> konqueror *
[23:10] <peaches> love dolphin .. whats it not doing for you
[23:10] <sixofour> dolphin gets more fatal errors than windows ME
[23:10] <sixofour> its as if they stole the code to IE, made it worse, thenr eleased it
[23:11] <adi_> what packages should install from medibuntu to watch almost any video and audio format in kubuntu hardy 64 bit?
[23:11] <peaches> ok i dont get any crashes really :( maybe a freeze when mplayerthumbs tries to thumbnail some mp4s but not really any dolphin crashes
[23:11] <sixofour> i mean even switching folders, half the time dolphin doesn't update the status bar information and it shows the size left of the previous drive
[23:11] <sixofour> if i move from one fodler to another, soemtimes it doesn't display the files or says its empty when its not
[23:11] <sixofour> or sometimes it freezes
[23:12] <sixofour> turns into a big stupid grey box
[23:12] <sixofour> and does the "not responding" stuff
[23:12] <peaches> wow thats a whole l ot of suck. i havent gotten any of that
[23:12] <sixofour> i'm going to use firefox to brwose my folders here in a minute lol
[23:13] <adi_> any idea anyone?
[23:13] <adi_> thanks.
[23:13] <peaches> dunno off hand what it uses to monitor filesystem but looks like there a problem with that library
[23:13] <peaches> sixofour: what version of stuff are you on anyway?
[23:13] <sixofour> adi_:  try ubuntu-restricted-extras ?
[23:13] <sixofour> kubuntu 8.10
[23:13] <adi_> and should I stay with kaffeine or install vlc or maplayer?
[23:13] <sixofour> 32bit
[23:14] <sixofour> vlc has alot of good words about it
[23:14] <adi_> who has the best integration with firefox?
[23:14] <sixofour> never hear bad stuff
[23:14] <sixofour> no clue, maby vlc?
[23:15] <mefisto__> adi_: w64codecs    and libdvdcss2 for playing encrypted DVDs
[23:15] <adi_> I have never played dvd and i know i'll never play dvd :9
[23:15] <noren> qtparted does not let me create ext3 only ext2
[23:15] <adi_> :)
[23:15] <adi_> just avi from torrent
[23:16] <mefisto__> adi_: just w64codecs then
[23:16] <adi_> ok :)
[23:16] <adi_> and should I stay with kaffeine?
[23:16] <adi_> or get vlc?
[23:17] <peaches> try vlc
[23:17] <mefisto__> adi_: you can install kubuntu-restricted-extras too, which should install w64codecs and other things too, like java, flash plugin, etc
[23:17] <sixofour> noren use gparted
[23:17] <mefisto__> adi_: use which ever player you prefer
[23:18] <adi_> ok so the best is kubuntu restricted extras...?
[23:18] <sixofour> thats aprt of it
[23:18] <sixofour> there may be more
[23:18] <sixofour> most video fiels out there are proprietary
[23:18] <sixofour> and certainly all the popular ones
[23:18] <sixofour> i don't know any free or open formats
[23:18] <mefisto__> adi_: that installs more than just the codecs. all the popular non-free stuff will be installed
[23:18] <sixofour> yeah adl-
[23:18] <sixofour> what he said
[23:19] <adi_> ok but should I try to enable restricted repos
[23:19] <sixofour> sure
[23:19] <adi_> I've just made a fresh install of kubuntu hardy
[23:19] <adi_> so I think is only default repos... right?
[23:20] <LetsGo67> Why are there a bunch of warcraftelves3 in my Gmail contact list?
[23:20] <sixofour> lol
[23:21] <mefisto__> adi_: if you've added the medibuntu repo it will install from medibuntu
[23:21] <LetsGo67> Am I hacked sixofour?
[23:23] <adi_> no I have not added medibuntu. now im installing from "add/remove apps"
[23:23] <adi_> kubuntu restricted extras.
[23:26] <sixofour> highly doubt your gmail account weas hacked
[23:26] <adi_> ok thanks very much guys :)
[23:26] <sixofour> either there is a way to add yoruself to soneones contasct, or someone got your info from your pc
[23:27] <LetsGo67> Sixofur why is my contact list filled with multiple warcraftelves3?
[23:27] <sixofour> no idea, ask google?
[23:28] <mefisto__> why ask sixofour about your email account?
[23:28] <LetsGo67> This is scaring me....
[23:29] <korisnik> maybe keylogger.... backstabbing "friends"
[23:29] <sixofour> lol
[23:30] <sixofour> lol
[23:30] <sixofour> kubuntu cannot play .wavs by default, even with restricted extras?
[23:32] <sixofour> hrm, amarok appears to be broke :/
[23:32] <sixofour> #amarok
[23:34] <gidna> Hi
[23:35] <gidna> I've a problem with the audio I can't listen sound just a rustle
[23:53] <korisnik> c'mon, answer to man!