[01:59] <savvas> er.. launchpad's down?
[02:00] <mwhudson> savvas: err, not for me?
[02:00] <savvas> https://launchpad.net/ and https://edge.launchpad.net/ don't work in Serbia :)
[02:00] <Ampelbein> savvas: seems to be a routing problem at level3.net
[02:01] <savvas> Ampelbein: must be, thanks :)
[02:01] <nhandler> For a LP poll, are you meant to be able to change your vote up until 1 hour after the poll ends?
[02:02] <Ampelbein> savvas: strange thing is: from my home connection it's down, from my work-connection it works.
[02:08] <savvas> Ampelbein: it works now :)
[02:09] <spiv> mwhudson: why is there no link to the diff on https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~jeanfrancois.roy/loggerhead/pretty-url/+merge/3418?  Is it because it's already merged?  (If so, why is it still Needs Review?)
[02:09] <mwhudson> spiv: noone's running mad for loggerhead i guess
[02:10] <spiv> running mad?
[02:11] <mwhudson> spiv: https://edge.launchpad.net/mad
[02:12] <spiv> mwhudson: oh, that's a bit of a shame that it's not fully automatic.
[02:13] <spiv> Where are the infinite number of monkeys when you need them? ;)
[02:13] <mwhudson> the merge proposal would have a 'review diff', except it's too old i guess
[02:14] <nhandler> mwhudson: Do you know anything re: my poll question
[02:14] <mwhudson> nhandler: no, sorry
[02:14] <thumper> mwhudson: want mad for loggerhead?
[02:14] <mwhudson> thumper: would be nice, i guess
[03:24] <MTecknology> kiko: ping
[03:24] <wgrant> harrisony: What went wrong with the bug watch?
[03:24] <MTecknology> kiko: or are you sleeping?
[03:35] <spm> MTecknology: not remotely speaking for or on behalf of kiko! but he is a seriously busy chappie. Your best bet is just ask whatever the Q is, and if someone else can proxy an answer for you for kiko they will?
[03:37] <MTecknology> spm: he was going to work with me sometime this week about getting a super project created
[03:38] <spm> MTecknology: sweet - all the loco drupal stuff? I assume?
[03:38] <MTecknology> ya
[03:39] <MTecknology> spm: I pushed another release today with some major changes to the theme
[03:40] <MTecknology> You can now change theme settings like the width, a banner displaying for IE, what displays in it, etc. from the theme admin page
[03:41] <spm> nice!
[03:43] <MTecknology> spm: ya, also fixed some bugs, made a nice block for a mission statement (you can see an example at ubuntu-be.org), fought with IE crap, etc
[03:49] <spm> that's nicely done - the mission statement. the nod to drupal itself down the bottom right is a nice touch imho too
[03:51] <MTecknology> thanks
[03:56] <MTecknology> spm: You can't help me w/ that at all can you?
[03:56] <spm> MTecknology: the supergroup? Effectively, no.
[03:59] <MTecknology> spm: could you take a peek and let me know what you think? https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/62325
[04:30] <spm> MTecknology: heh. I have zero idea either way on that. Project groups and the why/not thereof is not something I've paid ... tbh :-) _any_ attention to.
[04:36] <jkakar> Anything I do on staging.launchpad.net is throw-away, right?
[04:36] <spm> jkakar: yes
[04:36] <jkakar> spm: Sweet, thanks.
[04:43] <MTecknology> spm: thanks :P
[04:48] <MTecknology> spm: I just wrote a post on the fridge about our latest release :)
[06:55]  * wgrant complains about rev numbers being semi-useless now that db-devel exists.
[06:55] <wgrant> I presume staging uses db-devel and edge just devel, but it would be nice if that were explicit...
[07:00]  * wgrant disagrees with lots of db-devel r7801.
[07:18] <thumper> wgrant: you shouldn't care about the revnos
[07:18] <thumper> wgrant: they are more for us not you :)
[07:19] <wgrant> thumper: But I can't tell if I can file a dozen bugs about a change yet or not.
[07:20] <thumper> wgrant: if in doubt, file the bug
[07:20] <thumper> wgrant: then you'll either be happy when we say "fixed"
[07:20] <thumper> wgrant: or happy that we will work on it
[07:20] <wgrant> thumper: But that's more likely to make you unhappy.
[07:22] <lifeless> thumper: we like bugs
[07:22] <lifeless> bah
[07:22] <lifeless> wgrant: ^
[07:22] <thumper> kiko!
[07:22] <wgrant> lifeless: Mm, good point.
[07:23] <wgrant> Why are checkboxes aligned so far to the right on LP forms?
[07:23] <thumper> wgrant: because we hate you
[07:23] <thumper> wgrant: sorry, what?
[07:23] <thumper> wgrant: which forms?
[07:24] <thumper> wgrant: if it looks too weird, file a bug
[07:24]  * wgrant finds a permission-neutral link.
[07:24] <wgrant> Ah, even https://launchpad.net/people/+me/+edit
[07:24] <wgrant> The checkboxes down the bottom.
[07:25] <wgrant> There also seems to now be a magical formless checkbox under the Google Map... what!?
[07:27] <thumper> the checkboxes have always been like that
[07:28] <wgrant> I know.
[07:28] <wgrant> But why?
[07:28] <wgrant> The textareas aren't.
[07:28] <wgrant> I guess the other widgets are, but they have labels to fill the space.
[07:30] <wgrant> So it's really the textareas that are freaks and make the rest look bad.
[09:04] <harrisony> wgrant: I wanted to set a remote bug watch to a launchpad bug but it created a new bug in that project (if it makes sense)
[09:09] <yanli> Hello, I see this in my PPA "Package counters and estimated archive size temporarily unavailable.", is sth wrong with it?
[09:09] <yanli> I uploaded a package but is hasn't been built yet
[09:17] <beuno> yanli, that message has nothing to do with the upload of the package
[09:17] <beuno> it's just because the server may be a bit overladed
[09:18] <yanli> Oh, thanks beuno
[09:18] <yanli> It worked this morning but went into that status since 4 hours ago and I don't know what happened
[09:19] <yanli> seems I still have to set up my own jaunty chroot env
[09:19] <yanli> i thought i could save some time by using PPA :)
[09:21] <bigjools> yanli: are you having a specific problem with your PPA?
[09:21] <yanli> i uploaded a package but nothing can be seen on my PPA webpage
[09:22] <yanli> it worked before but broke around 4h ago
[09:22] <bigjools> yanli: what is your PPA URL?
[09:22] <yanli> i see this on my PPA: Package counters and estimated archive size temporarily unavailable.
[09:22] <yanli> It's https://launchpad.net/~yanli/+archive/ppa
[09:23] <siretart> bigjools: I experience an FTBFS on a PPA. it seems that on !386, the builder tries to invoke the rule binary-indep without having Build-Depends-Indep installed. Is that a known behavior? or did I get something totally wrong?
[09:23] <siretart> cf. https://edge.launchpad.net/~siretart/+archive/ppa/+build/900879
[09:23] <bigjools> yanli: first, I think you found a bug with the disk usage, it should not show that error, I think it's because you've got nothing published.  Change the filter to "any status" and it works again.
[09:24] <yanli> bigjools: thanks for the hint, but I do have uploaded a new source package
[09:24] <bigjools> yanli: did you get an acceptance email?
[09:25] <bigjools> or a rejection?
[09:25] <siretart> the build fails becaose xsltprpoc is not installed. but the docs should only be built on i386 anyway
[09:25] <bigjools> siretart: ok, let me check it out
[09:26] <yanli> bigjools: i tried uploaded for 3 times and hadn't got acceptable email but got 2 rejected emails
[09:26] <bigjools> yanli: what does your rejection message say?
[09:26] <yanli> bigjools: in those reject emails it said it's "already accepted"
[09:26] <yanli> bigjools: perhaps the acceptance email is lost
[09:26] <bigjools> yanli: so I suspect you're trying to upload the same version again
[09:26] <bigjools> you can't do that
[09:27] <bigjools> even if you deleted the old one
[09:27] <yanli> bigjools: you are right...
[09:27] <yanli> OK
[09:27] <yanli> bigjools: then is there anyway i can clean those deleted packages?
[09:27] <bigjools> yanli: I was having some email delays yesterday from the Canonical servers, you might be experiencing it too
[09:27] <bigjools> yanli: no, it remembers history forever
[09:28] <bigjools> but the repo usage is zero, they're not published, so it doesn't count to your quota
[09:28] <yanli> bigjools: i'm sorry that i can't get this idea. if i tried uploading sth and the build failed i have to reupload and bump the versions?
[09:29] <yanli> bigjools: then very quickly i have to use a very big build no
[09:29] <bigjools> yanli: you have to bump the version
[09:29] <bigjools> what do you mean by big build?
[09:30] <yanli> bigjools: i meant by every failed building attempt i have to bump the version number, so the version number goes high very quickly
[09:31] <bigjools> yanli: that's how it works for Ubuntu as well, but you can use ~ or + in the version string to avoid major version number increases
[09:31] <yanli> bigjools: ok, so i can not use PPA as a build test field
[09:32] <bigjools> yanli: I don't see why not?
[09:32] <bigjools> siretart: can you file a bug on Soyuz, that doesn't look right
[09:34] <yanli> bigjools: then when a package finally get build successfully on PPA, it will bearing a version like foobar 1.0.0~ppa666   :)
[09:34] <yanli> and the PPA is polluted with 665 failed build records
[09:34] <bigjools> and that's a problem for you?
[09:35] <yanli> bigjools: anyhow, I can carry on with my work, thank you very much for your help
[09:35] <yanli> bigjools: nope, i think it's ok.  just looks oddly :)
[09:35] <bigjools> yanli: you're welcome.  I appreciate any feedback you may have.
[09:36] <yanli> bigjools: :)
[09:47] <siretart> bigjools: filed as bug #340997
[09:48] <bigjools> siretart: thanks
[09:48] <siretart> bigjools: btw, there have been some similar bugs in soyuz filed earlier, but they seemed to stem from broken package. I do not think that this particular mplayer package is broken, at least I couldn't reproduce the bug locally
[09:49] <bigjools> siretart: right, it's not beyond the realms of impossibilty that our sbuild package has a bug :)
[09:49] <siretart> :)
[11:08] <wgrant> harrisony: That's how watches work. They're just an addition on top of a new bug in the project.
[11:16] <gmb> harrisony: If you still want to add a bug watch to the bug you can simply add a comment containing the URL of the remote bug. Launchpad will create the watch automatically.
[12:51] <theholyduck> yanli, why not just use the pbuild tool?
[12:51] <theholyduck> it pretty much works like the ppa build servers
[12:51] <theholyduck> but its local and lets you do whatever
[12:51] <theholyduck> then once you got it working reliably
[12:51] <theholyduck> up it
[12:52] <theholyduck> yanli, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto
[14:18] <MTecknology> kiko__: you around?
[14:32] <MTecknology> Ursinha: bot still working ok?
[14:40] <MTecknology> kiko__: welcome back
[14:41] <kiko> my internets sucks today
[14:42] <MTecknology> i know how that goes - it frequently dies here too - i need to entirely unhook my modem for a little while before it'll come back
[14:42] <kiko> MTecknology, so, about that project group..
[14:42] <MTecknology> ya?
[14:43] <kiko> did you give me more information on that in the ticket?
[14:43] <MTecknology> ya
[14:43] <MTecknology> https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/62325
[14:59] <MTecknology> kiko: is that enough information to make a desicion?
[15:16] <persia> Which component of launchpad would have bugs about polls?
[15:23]  * persia finds some in launchpad-registry and launchpad-foundations, and hopes that was a mostly complete list
[16:31] <vadi2> Hi, I have a question. I had a package built on a ppa, successful for all 3 archs, but there are no .debs listed under Package files
[16:37] <vadi2> https://launchpad.net/~mudlet-makers/+archive/ppa is the ppa in question
[16:41] <vadi2> they're showing up now.
[16:41] <al-maisan> yep .. just checked
[16:42] <vadi2> how can I make the package be rebuilt for jaunty now?
[16:42] <vadi2> selecting my intrepid one, choosing jaunty as destination series and selecting "rebuild the copied sources" generates a "The following source cannot be copied: mudlet 0.2~beta4~ppa2 in intrepid (same version already has published binaries in the destination archive"
[16:43] <vadi2> which is not true, because jaunty is a older version
[16:43] <al-maisan> vadi2: increment the version by one and re-upload for jaunty.
[16:44] <vadi2> Ok. Using "debuild -S -sa" to generate the .changes?
[17:24] <cr3> anyone happen to know of a convenience script to publish a package under launchpad ppa for multiple releases at once?
[17:28] <cr3> lool: I seem to see on google that you've done some related work to ^^^ as part of the moblin project
[17:37] <lool> cr3: I did?
[17:38] <lool> cr3: It's a frequently requested feature; I don't think I have a script for that, I would probably copy the source with the launchpad copy source feature
[17:39] <cr3> lool: I just found autoppa written by jkakar, that might be interesting
[17:59] <cr3> what command is used to build a package under ppa? I'm getting an error which I just can't reproduce locally
[18:16] <statik> leonardr: hi! is there a shortcut argument that I can pass to bug.searchTasks() to get back only bugs that are considered 'active' ?
[18:17] <leonardr> statik: you'd need to ask intellectronica or someone on the bugs team
[18:17] <leonardr> i only know about the framework
[18:18] <intellectronica> statik: what do you mean by 'active'?
[18:19] <intellectronica> do you mean open bugs? bugs that are not invalid, won't fix or fixed?
[18:19] <statik> intellectronica: not 'Fix committed' or 'Fix released' or 'Invalid'. yes, exactly
[18:19] <intellectronica> statik: no. you'll have to explicitly specify the statuses you want
[18:20] <statik> intellectronica: ok, thanks
[19:55] <fta> "PPA exceeded its size limit (3527.00 of 3076.00 MiB)". do i need to file a new question? again... ? that's for https://edge.launchpad.net/~chromium-daily/+archive/ppa
[20:15] <mtaylor> hey all... how do I prune old backup.bzr dir from a branch so that I can upgrade it again?
[20:15] <mwhudson> mtaylor: on launchpad?
[20:15] <mwhudson> mtaylor: using lftp or hitchiker to delete it i guess
[20:16] <mwhudson> mtaylor: i can do this for you from a data centre machine if you like, would be quicker
[20:16] <mtaylor> mwhudson: awesome
[20:16] <mtaylor> mwhudson: ~mordred/drizzle/devel and ~drizzle-developers/drizzle/trunk both need it really
[20:16] <mwhudson> mtaylor: url me up?
[20:17] <mtaylor> mwhudson: I tried using sftp to do the delete, but it wasn't happy
[20:17] <mwhudson> ok
[20:17] <mwhudson> sftp is terrible
[20:17] <mwhudson> (the client)
[20:18] <exarkun> Hmh, is *that* why I can't upgrade any of my branches on launchpad?
[20:18] <exarkun> Because I did once already and the backup.bzr directory prevents me from doing it again?
[20:18] <mtaylor> there should be some interface for dealing with backup.bzr... or a bzr upgrade --force option that will get rid of backup.bzr for me... or something
[20:19] <mwhudson> there _should_ be an 'upgrade this branch' option in the ui
[20:19] <mtaylor> mwhudson: :)
[20:22] <mwhudson> mtaylor: did you mean ~drizzle-developers/drizzle/development ?
[20:22] <mtaylor> mwhudson: yeah... probably... lp:drizzle
[20:22] <mwhudson> exarkun: want me to fix your branches while i'm at it?
[20:23] <mwhudson> mtaylor: iz done
[20:23] <mtaylor> mwhudson: you rock!
[20:23] <exarkun> mwhudson: I'm okay, I think.  I'll wait for the button in the ui. :)  Thanks though
[20:23] <mwhudson> mtaylor: well, it would be nice if bzr was better here...
[20:23] <mtaylor> mwhudson: agree
[20:23] <mwhudson> exarkun: it might appear in the next release, we'll see...
[20:44] <fta> anyone for https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/soyuz/+question/62386 ?
[20:47] <spm> fta: looks like someone has beaten me to it - you now have 7Gb :-)
[20:48] <fta> excellent, thank you!
[21:06] <fta> spm, noone touched the question? is that ok?
[21:07] <spm> fta: well, the value in your PPA record is updated, so that's key. I was leaving the question for whomever did the work to get the karma juju. From your perspective, no it doesn't matter as such.
[21:23] <cr3> I sent a bunch of packages to the launchpad ppa and I received a confirmation that the build was fine, but I don't see any .debs in the pool :(
[21:23] <cr3> nevermind, they just appeared
[23:21] <cyberix> Is the logo image from branding used somewhere?
[23:42] <kiko> cyberix, which logo? where?