| Amaranth | compiz does not have such bugs, thank you very much | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| bruce89 | on slow hardware? | 00:00 |
| DanaG | well, that was odd. | 00:05 |
| DanaG | Something suddenly started devouring my CPU. | 00:05 |
| bruce89 | synchronised crashing | 00:05 |
| DanaG | Picture taking my 2.4GHz CPU, and then throwing away 950/1000 cycles. | 00:05 |
| Amaranth | DanaG: that's like 0.01 seconds | 00:12 |
| Amaranth | less, actually | 00:12 |
| DanaG | aah, I figured it out: some sort of file system corruption. | 00:37 |
| DanaG | forcing fsck fixed it. | 00:37 |
| ccooke | Evening | 00:40 |
| ccooke | Is jaunty currently utterly fubared? | 00:41 |
| crdlb | I wouldn't go that far ... | 00:41 |
| ccooke | okay, slight exageration :-) | 00:41 |
| ccooke | *noticably* fubared? | 00:41 |
| crdlb | are you pondering whether you should upgrade? | 00:42 |
| ccooke | (I came back home today to find that my laptop (updated last night) has lost the ability to do window decoration, network-manager has forgotten what DNS is and the updates aren't working | 00:42 |
| ccooke | nah, it's nothing I can't fix | 00:43 |
| crdlb | for the former, install compiz | 00:43 |
| ccooke | I'm just wondering if it's just me having bad luck with packages or something more general | 00:43 |
| crdlb | you uninstalled part of it with a dist-upgrade | 00:43 |
| ccooke | *nod* | 00:43 |
| ccooke | I'm getting a load of packages unable to create files ATM, too | 00:44 |
| DanaG | heh, why is it that people seem never to CHECK what it is update-manager wants to remove? | 00:44 |
| DanaG | I never let update-manager do partial-upgrades. | 00:45 |
| ccooke | DanaG: because this is a dev release and sometimes things *change* | 00:45 |
| crdlb | update-manager didn't offer to remove compiz here | 00:45 |
| DanaG | Instead, I look in aptitude to see why it wants to do what it wants to do, and then just wait. | 00:45 |
| crdlb | only dist-upgrade did | 00:45 |
| * bruce89 only uses aptitude to upgrade | 00:46 | |
| ccooke | ... No space left on device?! What the fsck? | 00:46 |
| crdlb | ah, ext4 ... | 00:46 |
| ccooke | oh dear | 00:46 |
| ccooke | ext4 | 00:46 |
| ccooke | ? | 00:46 |
| DanaG | yeah, sudo touch /forcefsck | 00:47 |
| DanaG | and then reboot | 00:47 |
| crdlb | if you're not actually out of space, that's probably an ext4 bug | 00:47 |
| DanaG | and let it do a full fsck. | 00:47 |
| ccooke | ahhhh | 00:47 |
| ccooke | Right. | 00:47 |
| ccooke | nccooke@haematite:~$ sudo touch /forcefsck | 00:47 |
| ccooke | touch: cannot touch `/forcefsck': No space left on device | 00:47 |
| DanaG | bah. | 00:47 |
| ccooke | oh dear :-) | 00:48 |
| ccooke | yes, there's plenty of space left | 00:48 |
| DanaG | eh, try booting single. | 00:48 |
| DanaG | recovery mode. | 00:48 |
| ccooke | however, I can force a fsck easily myself | 00:48 |
| DanaG | yeah. | 00:48 |
| ccooke | there's a quicker way. "init 1", for a start :-) | 00:48 |
| crdlb | reboot 30 times? :P | 00:48 |
| JanC | you can use tune2fs I suppose | 00:50 |
| DanaG | oh yeah, how do you change the default journal mode with tune2fs? | 00:50 |
| DanaG | I like using data=journal mode, but it means I have to pass rootflags= on the kernel command line, or root won't mount. | 00:51 |
| DanaG | data=journal does give better data integrity in case of lockups, correct? | 00:51 |
| DanaG | Is there any way to do the equivalent of Sun's ZFS file system's snapshot feature? | 00:54 |
| DanaG | Copy-on-write, where you can make backups of only the diffs? | 00:54 |
| ccooke | That's better. | 00:56 |
| ccooke | I can write to my own disk again :-) | 00:56 |
| ccooke | and no reboot necessary | 00:57 |
| DanaG | random: http://ces.cnet.com/8301-19167_1-10130701-100.html | 00:58 |
| DanaG | http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=4796 | 01:00 |
| DanaG | HP accelerometer == can play Neverball with it. | 01:00 |
| shadowhywind | Hay all, running kubuntu and plasma is crashing on login, anyone have any ideas? | 01:04 |
| bz0b | hey i just installed jaunty x86_64 on my laptop and when in livecd i got full resolution but now i only get up to 1024x768 | 01:36 |
| crdlb | what GPU/ | 01:39 |
| bz0b | intel 4500 | 01:39 |
| crdlb | hrm | 01:40 |
| crdlb | does compiz work? | 01:40 |
| bz0b | it works fine in 8.10, but i dont know let me see | 01:40 |
| crdlb | that's my new 3d acceleration test :/ | 01:40 |
| Amaranth | hehe | 01:40 |
| bz0b | yes compiz works beautifully | 01:41 |
| bz0b | hehe | 01:41 |
| bz0b | so its just the res | 01:41 |
| Amaranth | no it hates your monitor | 01:41 |
| Amaranth | err, so | 01:41 |
| bz0b | hmm ya, i just want 1280x800 gosh | 01:42 |
| serios | hello | 01:42 |
| bz0b | let me double check my xorg.conf | 01:43 |
| bz0b | lol that might be it | 01:43 |
| bz0b | how do i do that xorg-configure thing again | 01:43 |
| bz0b | brb | 01:44 |
| serios | anyone awake? | 01:44 |
| bruce89 | yup | 01:45 |
| serios | i hate asking this in here | 01:45 |
| serios | but it seems people in ubuntu are sleeping | 01:45 |
| serios | :/ | 01:45 |
| serios | I need linux-backports-modules-2.6.27-13-server | 01:45 |
| serios | the .deb | 01:45 |
| serios | i managed to uninstall it and now i have no wifi | 01:45 |
| Amaranth | serios: so get it from archive.ubuntu.com | 01:46 |
| serios | ive tried but i dont know where to look | 01:46 |
| serios | on archive | 01:46 |
| SeveredCross | Search for it? | 01:47 |
| Amaranth | http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/restricted/l/linux-restricted-modules/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.27-13-server_2.6.27-13.18_i386.deb | 01:47 |
| Amaranth | http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/restricted/l/linux-restricted-modules/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.27-13-server_2.6.27-13.18_amd64.deb | 01:47 |
| serios | oh golly | 01:47 |
| serios | thanks | 01:47 |
| crdlb | backports | 01:47 |
| Amaranth | crdlb: ? | 01:47 |
| crdlb | he wants -backports-, that's -restricted- | 01:48 |
| serios | well I dont know | 01:49 |
| bruce89 | there is no backports 2.6.27-blah | 01:49 |
| serios | i need the modules for 2.6.27-13 | 01:49 |
| serios | :/ | 01:49 |
| serios | I think that is it | 01:49 |
| Amaranth | crdlb: oh, he said wifi so that's l-r-m | 01:50 |
| crdlb | could be ath5k | 01:50 |
| Amaranth | I don't think linux-backports-modules ever has anything in it, does it? | 01:50 |
| serios | no its an intel wifi | 01:50 |
| serios | afaik | 01:50 |
| Amaranth | serios: oh, that's just the firmware you need then | 01:50 |
| Amaranth | serios: that's in l-r-m, my links are what you want | 01:50 |
| crdlb | intel wifi has loadable firmware? :/ | 01:50 |
| serios | kk | 01:50 |
| Amaranth | yes | 01:51 |
| crdlb | I thought that was only broadom | 01:51 |
| Amaranth | no | 01:51 |
| Amaranth | I thought they all did at this point | 01:51 |
| Amaranth | But I only have broadcom and intel | 01:51 |
| Amaranth | intel has since the 3945 | 01:51 |
| crdlb | every laptop in my house has atheros | 01:51 |
| Amaranth | or the 2200 even, i dunno | 01:52 |
| crdlb | by pure coincidence | 01:52 |
| Amaranth | I know one of their older ones which has a linux driver doesn't need firmware and is completely open source | 01:52 |
| bz0b | hey for some reason i logged out and logged in and it works | 01:53 |
| Amaranth | bz0b: logout restarts X | 01:53 |
| Amaranth | bz0b: first boot either your monitor was off or there was some timing issue reading the info from the monitor | 01:53 |
| crdlb | that's called the windows fix lite | 01:53 |
| bz0b | i got full res, i think the dpkg-reconfigure fixed it | 01:53 |
| bz0b | lol | 01:53 |
| bz0b | but now my tty's all look like their having a seizure why is that | 01:54 |
| Amaranth | bz0b: restart computer | 01:54 |
| bz0b | ok | 01:55 |
| bz0b | brb | 01:55 |
| SeveredCross | I think 2200 doesn't need loadable firmware. | 01:55 |
| SeveredCross | 3945+ does. | 01:55 |
| serios | anyway on a less serious note, just for giggles I installed Ubuntu on a Quadcore x 4 IBM server (16 cores) at work with 16GB Ram and it was amazing | 01:58 |
| serios | lol | 01:58 |
| serios | /j #ubuntu-offtopic | 01:59 |
| serios | err | 01:59 |
| bz0b | hey Amaranth i rebooted then it went back to the smaller resolution, then i went into tty1 and did a /etc/init.d/gdm restart and it fixed it again, except for again all the tty's look like they are having a siezure again | 02:07 |
| Amaranth | bz0b: yep, sounds like a timing problem | 02:07 |
| bz0b | Amaranth, how is that fixed? | 02:08 |
| Amaranth | *shrug* | 02:09 |
| bz0b | lol | 02:09 |
| Amaranth | anyone getting terrible problems with IO scheduling? | 02:16 |
| Amaranth | copying a file from CD to HD makes everything slow and my music is just static (underruns) | 02:17 |
| durt | why did latest upgrade rename /etc/modprobe.d/options to options.dpkg-bak? borked my tv tuner. | 02:22 |
| Amaranth | durt: because you changed /etc/modprobe.d/options and told it to use the package's version on upgrade | 02:38 |
| Amaranth | durt: I would just be glad it made a backup, most of the time when you change a file a package owns it just wipes your copy out | 02:39 |
| SeveredCross | Amaranth: I have been seeing a LOT of buffer underruns. | 02:39 |
| Amaranth | SeveredCross: You're not talking about the same thing | 02:39 |
| SeveredCross | amaranth: I'm not sure if they're I/O related. | 02:39 |
| Amaranth | SeveredCross: I'm talking about my system feeling like the load is at 500 when copying a file | 02:39 |
| SeveredCross | Oh, hum. Not that bad, no. | 02:39 |
| Amaranth | hell the load probably is at 500 | 02:39 |
| Amaranth | it feels like I've got no DMA... | 02:40 |
| Amaranth | but SATA always has DMA | 02:40 |
| Amaranth | you can't even check for DMA, it's always there | 02:40 |
| DanaG | I put my custom options in a custom.conf file instead. | 02:41 |
| JanC | Amaranth: do you have tracker running? | 02:54 |
| Amaranth | JanC: of course not | 02:55 |
| Amaranth | tracker and beagle are slow | 02:55 |
| JanC | I had some serious issues while tracker was running (normally tracker isn't slowing down my system significantly) | 02:56 |
| JanC | but as it's doing disk I/O almost all the time, and if there would be an IO scheduling issue somehow... | 02:57 |
| maco | so does upstart do anything in jaunty? or is just kinda there? | 03:02 |
| dtchen | of course it "does something" | 03:02 |
| maco | i'm trying to figure out if i should play with upstart or manually screw with symlinks in /etc/rc*.d/ | 03:02 |
| maco | dtchen: well it doesnt control booting yet does it? | 03:02 |
| JanC | maco: it does | 03:03 |
| crdlb | err, it has for quite a while now | 03:03 |
| dtchen | try removing upstart and see how far you get into a boot. | 03:03 |
| JanC | and has been doing for a long time | 03:03 |
| JanC | maco: see /etc/event.d/* | 03:03 |
| maco | oh | 03:07 |
| maco | ok | 03:07 |
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| maco | i thought since it was supposed to change again it still wasnt recommended to migate your init scripts there | 03:07 |
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| dtchen | your thought is correct, but not for the reason that "it doesn't control booting yet" | 03:08 |
| JanC | the version of upstart that's currently used is quite old | 03:08 |
| JanC | and the "language" used to describe services has changed in recent versions | 03:09 |
| maco | dtchen: i figured if init scripts arent supposed to migrate to it yet, then it cant be controlling boot because there's nothing in it yet | 03:09 |
| dtchen | you really want to look at what casey is doing in fedora | 03:10 |
| maco | can i create an upstart script for something that lacks an init script, like vpnc? | 03:11 |
| maco | upstart lets you tell one service to stop if anoher starts right? | 03:11 |
| maco | so i could tell it stop miredo when vpnc starts? | 03:11 |
| JanC | that should be possible if both are defined by upstart scripts | 03:12 |
| maco | well id have to define upstart scripts for them | 03:12 |
| maco | or at least for vpnc | 03:12 |
| maco | but its not too hard, right? | 03:13 |
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| JanC | although the version of upstart in jaunty if quite old, so current documentation on the upstart site might not apply | 03:13 |
| JanC | s/if/is/ | 03:14 |
| dtchen | why would you want to stop miredo when vpnc starts | 03:15 |
| maco | dtchen: because they dont work together | 03:15 |
| maco | my school doesnt allow ipv6 so when i start vpnc if miredo's running it gets stupid | 03:15 |
| dtchen | yes they do | 03:15 |
| dtchen | that's patently false | 03:16 |
| dtchen | i was using it not two days ago | 03:16 |
| dtchen | not to mention your school does not DPI v4 UDP to block teredo | 03:16 |
| maco | ....didnt work when i tried to use them together | 03:17 |
| dtchen | you can't use miredo even if you're not using vpnc | 03:17 |
| maco | why not? | 03:18 |
| dtchen | don't you recall? | 03:18 |
| maco | it works fine for web browing | 03:18 |
| dtchen | you experience the strangest route issues that i can't reproduce | 03:18 |
| maco | but it half the time doesnt work on freenode | 03:18 |
| dtchen | that's hardly vpnc or miredo to blame, however | 03:18 |
| maco | can always telnet freenode, can always ping freenode, just get connection refused on some connect attempts for irc | 03:18 |
| maco | which i dont understand | 03:19 |
| maco | yeah, thats just my curse | 03:19 |
| Amaranth | wait, you have telnet access to freenode? | 03:19 |
| dtchen | anyone can telnet foo.freenode 6667 | 03:19 |
| dtchen | or 8001 or whatever | 03:19 |
| Amaranth | that's IRC though | 03:19 |
| mase_work | i think he means to the irc port | 03:19 |
| maco | Amaranth: its anonymous | 03:19 |
| Amaranth | not remove shell | 03:19 |
| maco | no | 03:19 |
| Amaranth | err, remote | 03:19 |
| maco | i can telnet to ipv6.chat.us.freenode.net on 6667 | 03:19 |
| Amaranth | maco: then your irc program is broken, nothing else | 03:20 |
| maco | but if i try to connect in irssi, it's only worked twice | 03:20 |
| mase_work | Amaranth: he's not trying to remote in, he's just testing it works | 03:20 |
| dtchen | she never ran a tshark or tcpdump for me, so it's not like i could look at the debug spew | 03:20 |
| mase_work | maco: Amaranth is correct though | 03:20 |
| maco | dtchen: i wiresharked it | 03:20 |
| mase_work | maco: if you can telnet | 03:20 |
| maco | dtchen: there were no udp packets | 03:20 |
| mase_work | then there is no reason irc shouldn't work | 03:20 |
| maco | dtchen and i are both using irssi and he can connect every time | 03:20 |
| maco | dtchen: want the cap file? | 03:21 |
| dtchen | lzma it somewhere | 03:21 |
| amaranthtelnet | look i can irc via telnet, any problems with my irc client connecting must be problems with the irc client | 03:22 |
| Amaranth | that is hard to do, btw | 03:22 |
| maco | how does one irc via telnet? | 03:22 |
| SeveredCross | Painfully. | 03:23 |
| JanC | hehe, HTTP & SMTP are easier indeed | 03:23 |
| Amaranth | when the server starts responding you type 'user foo foo foo :foo' | 03:23 |
| Amaranth | then enter | 03:23 |
| JanC | maco: it's just a text-based protocol | 03:23 |
| Amaranth | then 'nick foo' and enter | 03:23 |
| Amaranth | then 'join #ubuntu+1' | 03:23 |
| maco | JanC: ive never tried though | 03:23 |
| maco | ok ill try quassel then | 03:23 |
| Amaranth | then 'privmsg #ubuntu+1 :this is my message and the colon is important' | 03:23 |
| JanC | neither did I, but I've done this with HTTP & SMTP to test new installs | 03:24 |
| JanC | oh, and POP3 IIRC | 03:24 |
| JanC | and probably other protocols ツ | 03:24 |
| Amaranth | i always forget pop3 and smtp | 03:25 |
| Amaranth | You can tell they were somewhat meant to be used like that though | 03:25 |
| JanC | I always have to look at the RFCs | 03:25 |
| JanC | but were meant to be easily tested/debuged | 03:26 |
| JanC | but they * | 03:26 |
| maco_ | ok | 03:26 |
| maco_ | looks like quassel can do ipv6 just fine | 03:26 |
| dtchen | i told you it was irssi. | 03:27 |
| mase_work | quassel is nice | 03:27 |
| maco_ | your irssi works! | 03:27 |
| Amaranth | doesn't mean irssi isn't broken | 03:28 |
| dtchen | i'm also using hardy, and you aren't. | 03:28 |
| Amaranth | just means his ipv6 setup looks like the irssi developer's ipv6 setup | 03:28 |
| Amaranth | or that | 03:28 |
| maco_ | :( but quassel doesnt let me /win 2 and such | 03:28 |
| maco_ | and its got this weird extra window of text. how do i make it put all the text in one window? | 03:29 |
| dtchen | holy wrong channel, batgirl | 03:29 |
| maco_ | why? | 03:29 |
| maco_ | quassel is new in jaunty | 03:29 |
| maco_ | and there isnt a #kubuntu+1 | 03:30 |
| dtchen | so use #kubuntu as intended | 03:30 |
| dtchen | 9people there ask quassel questions) | 03:30 |
| maco_ | if you try to go to #kubuntu+1 im pretty sure it redirects to *here* | 03:30 |
| Cycom | dtchen: hey, how's the bluetooth stuff goin? | 03:33 |
| Cycom | dtchen: get a chance to look at the mini 1030nr at best buy? | 03:33 |
| dtchen | no, today is my day off from ubuntu work. | 03:33 |
| DanaG | oh yeah, have you seen the mini-note 2140? | 03:33 |
| DanaG | http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=4796 | 03:35 |
| DanaG | Too bad the LCD is 16:9 and not 16:10. | 03:35 |
| DanaG | http://jkontherun.com/2009/01/19/first-impressions-of-the-hp-mini-2140-netbook/ | 03:36 |
| JanC | maco_: you could also try weechat (not sure it supports IPv6 though) | 03:37 |
| JanC | it says it does, so... | 03:39 |
| hansin | I realize now I screwed up (I didn't realize there was a forum with such anouncements). At some recent past point I did a "aptitude full-upgrade" and hosed some things because of python transition. Now I can not seem to fix because python is not configured and all the tools to configure seem broke in that they need python or something. I know this was a bad move, but any suggestions to fix configuration of python? | 03:40 |
| maco_ | hansin: use dpkg to downgrade everything you shouldn't have upgraded? | 03:41 |
| maco_ | how did you not notice it saying "hi, i'm going to remove 30 packages, is that ok?" though? | 03:41 |
| Cycom | dtchen: do you know if the same regression would effect all snd-hda-intel cards? | 03:42 |
| DanaG | http://jkontherun.com/2009/02/04/first-impressions-of-the-hp-mini-1000-mi/#more-29037 | 03:42 |
| hansin | well, that was a "live and learn" thing. lets just leave it at that... :( | 03:42 |
| dtchen | Cycom: the jack event regression that you experience does not affect all codecs equally | 03:43 |
| Cycom | dtchen: hear anything about the mini 9? | 03:43 |
| dtchen | Cycom: what was your SSID? (`lspci -nv|grep -A1 0403') | 03:43 |
| Cycom | dtchen: todays your day off. | 03:43 |
| Cycom | today's* | 03:43 |
| dtchen | yeah, that's true | 03:44 |
| Cycom | dtchen: I was just going to upgrade the mini 9 if you had no data on it. | 03:44 |
| Cycom | thus, on an ubuntu-day, you will have more samples. | 03:44 |
| dtchen | well, that's a chicken-n'-egg. | 03:44 |
| DanaG | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6noiwmLNpM&eurl=http://jkontherun.com/category/reviews/page/2/ | 03:45 |
| Cycom | dtchen: 00:1b.0 0403: 8086:27d8 (rev 02) Subsystem: 103c:361a btw :) | 03:45 |
| dtchen | Cycom: it's already fixed | 03:48 |
| dtchen | (well, by "fixed", i mean that the specific multi-hp jack reporting has been disabled for 2.6.29) | 03:49 |
| Cycom | dtchen: what is? | 03:49 |
| dtchen | for your sigmatel. | 03:49 |
| Cycom | dtchen: so audio should be working right now? | 03:49 |
| dtchen | i'm checking jaunty | 03:50 |
| dtchen | linus merged it four days ago | 03:50 |
| JanC | hansin: there should be no need for python to install python (at least not when using the commandline) | 03:51 |
| dtchen | no, it has not been merged into jaunty yet | 03:52 |
| akio | hello everyone, I am ssh irc chatting through a phone | 03:52 |
| akio | i am ver excite | 03:52 |
| Cycom | dtchen: so the fix will come as a kernel update? | 03:52 |
| dtchen | akio: neat. i'm using miredo tethered through a G1. | 03:53 |
| akio | aww I want a G1 | 03:53 |
| dtchen | Cycom: i'll ask for it to be merged once i verify it | 03:53 |
| dtchen | that's tomorrow night's work, however | 03:53 |
| akio | I'm using a meager Palm Centro | 03:53 |
| Cycom | dtchen: how do you like the G1? | 03:54 |
| Cycom | dtchen: also, let me know if you need a guinea pig. | 03:54 |
| dtchen | i like the phone, but i don't have high expectations | 03:54 |
| maco_ | i like playing games on the touchscreen :P | 03:55 |
| hansin | maco_: Thanks. | 03:55 |
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| akio | dtchen: Is it hackable? (do you have root) | 03:56 |
| maco_ | there's wiki explaining how to get root | 03:56 |
| dtchen | akio: yes, it's extremely straightforward. and yes, which is why i can tether. | 03:56 |
| hansin | JanC: Thanks. I'm trying different things. The python package did not fully configure, but reinstalling via 'dpkg -i python_****' is erroring out. I'll pastebin what it is doing... | 03:56 |
| dtchen | although there is a fancy apk gui for tethering now | 03:57 |
| maco_ | hansin: erroring how? saying a newer version is already installed? | 03:57 |
| akio | I figure tethering is watched by the carrier | 03:57 |
| maco_ | akio: he's got an unlimited plan | 03:57 |
| dtchen | akio: it is. | 03:57 |
| hansin | maco_: Or anyone, it is like this. Nothing to do with new versions: http://pastebin.com/d3738f0b3 | 03:58 |
| dtchen | they do DPI, inject ads, and dither-down most graphic images | 03:58 |
| bruce89bot | hansin: remove pitivi perhaps | 03:59 |
| JanC | hansin: remove pitivi first | 03:59 |
| hansin | python got installed by was not fully configured (I assume like an idiot I just did an 'aptitude full-upgrade' during the pyth... NEVER MIND, thanks I'll give it a go now! | 03:59 |
| maco_ | hansin: ah, maybe you need to downgrade pycentral before the rest of pthon? | 03:59 |
| JanC | maco_: there is probably no need to downgrade | 04:00 |
| Cycom | I miss verizon's old qnc service. it was slow as heck, but I could get enough net speed to do an ssh session from anywhere for free. | 04:00 |
| maco_ | JanC: well seeing as half the system doesnt work with the new python packages... | 04:00 |
| maco_ | JanC: if you try to install the new python packages, a good chunk of ubuntu-desktop gets removed. only way to get those back would be to downgrade the python upgrade | 04:01 |
| JanC | his upgrade doesn't work because of pitivi --> (temporarily) remove pitivi | 04:01 |
| JanC | at least, that's what it looks like | 04:01 |
| JanC | and I'm using the new packages without major breakage BTW | 04:02 |
| maco_ | :-O | 04:02 |
| hansin | It works, thanks you all. I removed pitivi. Makes sense now. I didn't realize it was its own package (or what it was). I thought it was just part of Python. Thanks again! | 04:02 |
| maco_ | he finished the Sarah Jane Adventures *without me*?! | 04:02 |
| maco_ | and he's still got my doctor who season 4 that he took from my shelf | 04:04 |
| maco_ | (reading dtchen's part message) | 04:04 |
| JanC | hansin: I suppose pitivi will be fixed in "the near future" somewhere | 04:05 |
| bruce89bot | the magic of Python | 04:06 |
| hansin | I must have installed that during "hardy" when I installed the Ubuntu Studio meta-package. Not why that being broken would create such a fuss... | 04:11 |
| JanC | hansin: python2.6 is now the default instead of python2.5 | 04:12 |
| JanC | and because of that all python-based application get re-compiled for that version | 04:12 |
| JanC | and apparently there is something in the pitivi code that python2.6 doesn't like | 04:13 |
| JanC | hansin: please report a bug about that BTW | 04:14 |
| hansin | Okay, that seems to make sense. So when I tried to get Python 2.6 installed, it would hang/bork on some Pitivi issue and never fully get installed. I guess I would have expected it to say "hey you suck package, i'm going to ignore you!!". Okay, I'll file a bug report; that's the least I can do. | 04:15 |
| JanC | and post the bug # here maybe (if you do it now) | 04:16 |
| === bruce89bot is now known as bruce89 | ||
| hansin | Actually, first what I will do is let my system upgrade and then try to install Pitivi and see if it screws things up again. It may have been that I upgrade during that time period that it was posted to not upgrade and I just needed to back myself into the corner I painted myself into. I don't want to open a BR if it is already fixed. I'll check right now and see if anything has already been filed. | 04:17 |
| hansin | Just reinstalled Pitivi. I'll keep an eye on things. Off for a reboot, but will be back later. Thanks for the help. | 04:27 |
| hansin | So far no problem with reinstalled Pitivi. I'll keep tabs on it, and if there are issues I'll submit a bug. I suspect it had more to do when I upgraded than anything else, but I watch it. | 04:59 |
| FaMott | Bah... Exit to error: Can't init SDL No available video device... I installed SDL from source trying to play a game and now it doesn't think I have a video device. | 05:04 |
| _stochastic_ | is anyone here familiar with the best practise for editing udev rules in Jaunty? Particularly adding raw1394 support? | 05:25 |
| DaemonMDV | can anyone tell me what's going on with the different gstreamer plugins packages? | 05:32 |
| DaemonMDV | like gstreamer-plugins-ugly vs. gstreamer-plugins-ugly-multiverse | 05:32 |
| JanC | DaemonMDV: -multiverse = non-free | 05:38 |
| DaemonMDV | so the regular package is the ugly plugins where licensing isn't the issue? | 05:39 |
| JanC | -ugly is probably stuff that in some countries some people claim patents on or such | 05:39 |
| JanC | like MP3 | 05:40 |
| DaemonMDV | they explain that ugly is either bad code, poorly maintained, or questionable licensing | 05:41 |
| JanC | seems like -ugly has only decoders & -ugly-multiverse has the LAME encoder | 05:41 |
| JanC | no, bad code is in -bad | 05:41 |
| DaemonMDV | so I assume that the ugly plugins in Universe are the ones where code and maintainence are the issue? | 05:41 |
| DaemonMDV | oh | 05:41 |
| === FaMott is now known as FaMott|Sleeps | ||
| JanC | you know, there is the good, the bad & the ugly ;-) | 05:42 |
| DaemonMDV | yeah | 05:43 |
| DaemonMDV | as long as Ubuntu doesn't force Fluendo on me | 05:43 |
| DaemonMDV | I'm good | 05:43 |
| DaemonMDV | heh | 05:43 |
| theholyduck | gstreamer is pure concentrated evil | 05:43 |
| theholyduck | true story | 05:43 |
| crdlb | please do that somewhere else | 05:43 |
| JanC | -fluendo is in a separate package | 05:43 |
| theholyduck | ;D | 05:44 |
| DaemonMDV | I've found that Xine plays more formats, but gstreamer is less CPU intensive | 05:44 |
| theholyduck | DaemonMDV, i found mplayer plays all formats | 05:44 |
| theholyduck | well not the one in jaunty obviously | 05:44 |
| theholyduck | but whatever | 05:44 |
| DaemonMDV | Codeina is pure concentrated evil | 05:45 |
| DaemonMDV | for the price of the Fluendo Plugin Pack you could buy a copy of Vista | 05:45 |
| DaemonMDV | with money left over | 05:45 |
| JanC | yeah right | 05:45 |
| DaemonMDV | seriously | 05:45 |
| DaemonMDV | the Fluendo pack is $85 US | 05:46 |
| DaemonMDV | Vista Basic OEM is $80 on Newegg | 05:46 |
| JanC | and if you buy an OEM copy without a PC it's illegal... | 05:47 |
| DaemonMDV | no it's not | 05:47 |
| JanC | plus Vista Basic is barely usable anyway | 05:47 |
| DaemonMDV | the OEM license states that you qualify as an OEM if you install it | 05:47 |
| DaemonMDV | which technically also means you are your own tech support B-) | 05:47 |
| DaemonMDV | Microsoft doesn't really mind normal people buying OEM software, that's why US companies sell a crapload of it to US customers | 05:48 |
| DaemonMDV | and Microsoft has never sued | 05:48 |
| SwedeMike | oki, Intel X4500 with UXA makes compiz misbehave since I dist-upgraded last night. turning off UXA makes the problem go away. | 05:49 |
| DaemonMDV | it's Intel, it could be a while | 05:49 |
| SwedeMike | couldn't even log off, it said compiz wasn't responding with UXA enabled. Everything took 2-3 seconds to respond (even typing in a xterm) | 05:49 |
| DaemonMDV | I have an Intel board and it took them about 3-4 months before they had proper Linux drivers for it | 05:50 |
| DaemonMDV | the kernel will actually panic if I try to use anything below 2.6.25, heh | 05:50 |
| SwedeMike | will, this has worked for weeks (I enabled UXA a while back) | 05:50 |
| DaemonMDV | X.org moves in mysterious ways, like unto God? | 05:51 |
| DaemonMDV | what should I tell you? heh | 05:51 |
| DaemonMDV | just be glad it's not still XFree86 with the 16 month wait between versions | 05:52 |
| DaemonMDV | although it is getting considerably closer to the bad old days | 05:52 |
| DaemonMDV | many of the reasons Keith Packard was complaining about XFree86 are starting to be true about X.org | 05:53 |
| DaemonMDV | I'll be flamed for this, but thank god for Red Hat or X.org would be a total shambles | 05:56 |
| DaemonMDV | they're already late with every release, imagine i they lost 35% of their contributors | 05:56 |
| SwedeMike | hm, somehow sync to vblank was turned back on, that's probably why UXA misbehaved | 05:58 |
| SwedeMike | if I have a bug against the -8 kernel and it's still present in -9, should I note this in the bug description? | 06:00 |
| bz0b | hey anyone having the problem that your tty's are looking really weird? like unreadable and the print is moving around | 06:10 |
| Slartibartfast | So i am using Thunderbird to read in Usenet groups ... sometimes somebody posts a link, which seem not to open anymore in firefox ... is this a local problem or do more people also experience this? | 07:21 |
| Slartibartfast | already did a "mv .mozilla-thunderbird/ .mozilla-thunderbird-old" but the same result of doing nothing when i click on a link | 07:29 |
| schmidtm | does wireless-crda 1.7 fix bug #331092 | 08:05 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 331092 in linux "iwlagn driver fails to find 5GHz draft-N access point with CONFIG_WIRELESS_OLD_REGULATORY=n for all intel wireless cards" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/331092 | 08:05 |
| BetaClone | Anyone seen any guides for Wacom? Not sure if I should choose option a or b from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wacom | 08:25 |
| egonw | hi all, plasma 4.2 on kubuntu 8.10 and 9.04 alpha keep crashing for me, and would very much appreciate some pointers on pin pointing the problem... I get debug output from the command line if I run from there, but do not see something clearly the problem... suggestions please | 08:50 |
| scizzo- | egonw: maybe you can start with checking for help in #kubuntu? | 09:16 |
| scizzo- | egonw: they might be able to help you with the 8.10 version at least | 09:16 |
| egonw | scizzo-: already done that, they pointed me here :) | 09:16 |
| scizzo- | egonw: really | 09:16 |
| egonw | scizzo-: yes :) | 09:16 |
| egonw | scizzo-: anyway... it seems to be problems with reading the stuff in the plasma config files | 09:16 |
| scizzo- | egonw: system wide or for the user? | 09:17 |
| egonw | scizzo-: I do not have any special plasmoids running, but removing the old configs makes plasma start again | 09:17 |
| egonw | user specific | 09:17 |
| scizzo- | egonw: so if you create a new user and login with that user then everything is working fine? | 09:18 |
| egonw | well, at least, moving the old config just helped | 09:19 |
| egonw | have not tried a new user | 09:19 |
| egonw | but guess that might help too | 09:19 |
| scizzo- | and it does not crash after changing it? | 09:19 |
| egonw | the config? | 09:20 |
| egonw | I removed it... | 09:20 |
| egonw | so got fresh files from plasma defaults, I guess | 09:20 |
| egonw | then it did not crash anymore | 09:20 |
| egonw | but the changes were not really radical | 09:20 |
| egonw | from my first guess... | 09:20 |
| egonw | I would say it crashes because the config has screen sizes for my external monitor... | 09:21 |
| scizzo- | egonw: well config files usually are the problem to crashes | 09:21 |
| egonw | which is higher resolution... | 09:21 |
| egonw | I think plasma does not handle that well... | 09:21 |
| egonw | but have not confirmed that suspicion yet | 09:21 |
| scizzo- | maybe | 09:21 |
| * scizzo- is not using KDE | 09:21 | |
| egonw | scizzo-: no worries... I'll explore, and when I have something useful I'll report a bug... | 09:22 |
| egonw | thanx for your thoughts | 09:22 |
| scizzo- | egonw: well if the remove of config fixed it...then I do believe there where garbage in the config | 09:22 |
| scizzo- | trying to pinpoint down what caused the error and crash is something that needs to be done to be able to reproduce it | 09:23 |
| egonw | scizzo-: yes, that's what lead me to the above suspicion | 09:24 |
| egonw | but need to do some stuff at work first | 09:24 |
| egonw | before I can reproduce :) | 09:24 |
| MrGoodkat_ | any news regarding the intel gma500 graphic driver in jaunty? | 10:17 |
| === jussio1 is now known as jussi01 | ||
| Slartibartfast | Anybody else having a very empty facebook page ? ... Is facebook checking Operating system? | 10:36 |
| Slartibartfast | Hmm a user.agent string change in "about:config" seems to do nothing ... still see Jaunty in my apache access log | 10:42 |
| gnomefreak | Slartibartfast: in FF? | 10:43 |
| Slartibartfast | yes | 10:43 |
| gnomefreak | Slartibartfast: thanks i will look into it sometime this week | 10:43 |
| gnomefreak | Slartibartfast: 3.0.7 or 3.1? | 10:43 |
| Slartibartfast | 3.0.7 here ..... but i also have an empty page with konqueror | 10:44 |
| Slartibartfast | on 8.10 facebook looks OK | 10:44 |
| gnomefreak | Slartibartfast: ok good that means its not firefox | 10:44 |
| Slartibartfast | But i mean ... i can not change the Useragenent string .... it has no effect | 10:45 |
| blizzkid | Lo all, any posssibility to get ipod-convenience installed in jaunty alpha5? ipod-convenience: Depends: python-gpod but it is not going to be installed | 10:45 |
| Slartibartfast | Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.0.7) Gecko/2009030516 Ubuntu/9.04 (jaunty) Firefox/3.0.7" ... even when i changed in about:config" | 10:45 |
| Slartibartfast | But anyway ... i need to go | 10:45 |
| blizzkid | no-one? | 10:57 |
| hggdh | blizzkid, alpha 5 is gone | 11:03 |
| blizzkid | hggdh: gone? is 6 out now? | 11:03 |
| hggdh | it will be out on March 12 | 11:08 |
| hggdh | it may be that python-gpod needs to be upgraded to python 2.6. Have you tried looking for an upgrade request on LP? | 11:10 |
| blizzkid | hggdh: it needs python < 2.6 according to the output of apt-get | 11:10 |
| blizzkid | and python 2.6.1 is installed | 11:11 |
| hggdh | blizzkid, there you go. Python 2.6 is now a requirement on Jaunty | 11:11 |
| hggdh | it probably just (hopefully) needs a nudge to a build-depends/depends on python >= 2.6 | 11:12 |
| blizzkid | hggdh: so... any chance to get it installed atm? | 11:12 |
| hggdh | no, not without a repackaging. | 11:13 |
| blizzkid | that's a pitty | 11:13 |
| hggdh | well, you can also look at it as a chance to contribute ;-) | 11:14 |
| hggdh | blizzkid, again: search for a bug on it, requesting an upgrade; if there is none, then it will take longer... | 11:15 |
| blizzkid | I would if I could, but my programming and packaging skills are non existant ;) | 11:15 |
| blizzkid | I've seen some bugs, but I'm not sure these are what I needed | 11:16 |
| hggdh | you can still open a bug for it (or try #ubuntu-motu, perhaps someone will be available to repackage it). The point is: if nobody asks for it, it will certainly take longer than sooner | 11:17 |
| blizzkid | true :) | 11:17 |
| === peace is now known as koperton | ||
| Finnish_ | How do I tune my sound system so that it works in skype? I get audio out, but I'm not able to get my voice in | 13:01 |
| Finnish_ | And why on earth Audio Tab under recording automatically mutes my laptop's input mic? I try to toggle it on, but every time its goes muted | 13:08 |
| yao_ziyuan | in ubuntu jaunty's gedit (2.25.8), | 13:31 |
| yao_ziyuan | can anyone enable the Find button in the Find dialog box? | 13:31 |
| yao_ziyuan | can anyone use the Find feature? | 13:31 |
| yao_ziyuan | my Find button is always disabled | 13:32 |
| hggdh | yao_ziyuan, not here | 13:32 |
| yao_ziyuan | ok, i'll try another gtk+ widget style | 13:33 |
| ripps | Does anybody know where I can get some documentation on the Gnome dbus multimedia keys framework? | 13:33 |
| yao_ziyuan | hggdh: what is your gedit version? | 13:34 |
| hggdh | 2.25.8, jaunty, like yours | 13:34 |
| yao_ziyuan | my gedit's Find and Replace don't work | 13:34 |
| yao_ziyuan | these dialog boxes only have the "Close" button enabled | 13:35 |
| yao_ziyuan | other buttons are all disabled always | 13:35 |
| yao_ziyuan | btw, | 13:36 |
| yao_ziyuan | i'm in kde 4.2.1 | 13:36 |
| yao_ziyuan | running gedit in kde | 13:36 |
| iamarockstar | yao_ziyuan that could be the problem | 13:58 |
| Eruaran | dunno why he doesn't just use Kate if he's using KDE | 14:00 |
| daftykins | KATE ftw | 14:02 |
| robin0800 | or nano | 14:02 |
| daftykins | not quite the same category of thing to be compared | 14:06 |
| VSpike | So, pulseaudio uses the default alsa device as a sink, amirite? | 14:16 |
| VSpike | If so, when you select "Pulseaudio Sound Server" for playback in Sound preferences, how are you intended to change the device from which the sound emanates? | 14:17 |
| DanaG | padevchooser / pavucontrol will let you set the default sink. | 14:19 |
| DanaG | I don't know why it's not installed by default -- it's rather silly. | 14:19 |
| VSpike | DanaG: I figured that was the case. But that is a very unfriendly applet to use | 14:20 |
| VSpike | I wondered if there was a better way | 14:20 |
| VSpike | Actually, if you turn on network sharing and network discovery, you get nice human readable lists of your sources and sinks in the device chooser | 14:20 |
| DanaG | oh yeah, PA 0.9.15 PPA has network features broken, for some reason. | 14:21 |
| DanaG | it gives errors like "stream died", and "protocol error; kicking client." | 14:21 |
| VSpike | Otherwise, you get "Default" and "Other", other presenting you with a plain textbox for you to enter the easily memorable "alsa_output.usb_device_1778_403_noserial_if0_sound_card_0_alsa_playback_0" | 14:21 |
| VSpike | Or similar | 14:21 |
| DanaG | pavucontrol works, though. | 14:22 |
| alex-weej | anyone know why Qt doesn't pay any attention to font hinting settings anymore? | 14:22 |
| DanaG | right-click on an output device. | 14:22 |
| VSpike | If you go into the Pulse Audio manager you get a slightly better list of source and sinks but no way to choose one as default | 14:22 |
| alex-weej | it's using the BCI font hinting when Gtk uses unhinteed | 14:22 |
| DanaG | oh yeah, another stupid thing: no way to choose which device to monitor with pavumeter. | 14:22 |
| VSpike | DanaG: aha yes, you're right | 14:23 |
| VSpike | DanaG: doesn't seem to work for me though | 14:25 |
| VSpike | I changed the HDA Intel to default, and "Default Sink" is set to "Default" but the sound comes out of the USB phone still | 14:25 |
| VSpike | That's using the "Test" button in the Sound Preferences | 14:26 |
| VSpike | But changing Default Sink to "johncc@gort:HDA Intel - ALC260 Analog" works | 14:26 |
| eternal_p | good morning all..I am just wondering if someone can give me a direction on getting Sun's 64-bit firefox plugin going...I am stuck with icetea | 14:42 |
| void^ | there's a 64bit plugin now? | 14:45 |
| thiebaude | eternal_p: you can use 32 bit if you want | 14:46 |
| thiebaude | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=538207&highlight=firefox+java&page=3 | 14:47 |
| eternal_p | anyone elses' adobe reader crash upon loading | 14:57 |
| * Eruaran doesn't use Adobe Reader | 14:58 | |
| === yuriy_ is now known as yuriy | ||
| CosmiChaos | Does somebody know how to enable nautilus to create thumbnails for mpeg and x264??? I have it working for xvid, all unstripped packages and thumbnailers installed. Please help. | 15:21 |
| pavs | Hey guys, after the recent jaunty update I cannot boot in to my windows. When I select "Other Operating Systems:" from my boot menu, I get "Error 11: Unrecognized Device String". I can hit any keys to go back to grub boot list. | 15:44 |
| pavs | Ok. Never mind. Its working now :) There were so many kernels to boot in to I missed the last entry on boot the windows partition. | 15:48 |
| unixdawg | ok its time to fix firefoox and seamonkey and gstreamer | 15:50 |
| pavs | Anyone knows if jaunty will look more or less the same way previous brownish looks we are so used to seeing by default? I know the log-in screen but will the default look will change too? | 15:53 |
| unixdawg | depends on the version | 15:54 |
| unixdawg | are you useing xumuntu or kubuntu | 15:54 |
| unixdawg | m/b | 15:55 |
| pavs | ubuntu. | 15:55 |
| unixdawg | then mostlikly it will remain ubuntu colors | 15:55 |
| Eruaran | There are no plans to change the default colour scheme for 9.04... They will be fore 9.10 though. | 15:59 |
| Eruaran | *for | 16:00 |
| pavs | awesome. 9.10 is koala right? I read Mark Shuttlewort's entry about hiring designers to work on Ubuntu, wasn't sure which release. | 16:02 |
| daftykins | pavs may i ask why you're asking all this? | 16:04 |
| iamarockstar | pavs: 9.10 | 16:06 |
| pavs | daftykins just curious. I thought this was the channel for jaunty? Not supposed to discuss this in #ubuntu | 16:10 |
| iamarockstar | pavs: yeah trure | 16:18 |
| BUGabundo | hi everyone | 16:28 |
| BUGabundo | what's up with the key chain on jaunty? | 16:28 |
| BUGabundo | anyone has a bug for it? | 16:28 |
| BUGabundo | akgraner: hi gorgeouse | 16:28 |
| === DBO2 is now known as DBO | ||
| Eruaran | KPackageKit is no longer broken | 16:31 |
| Eruaran | I just noticed its working now | 16:31 |
| Eruaran | :D | 16:32 |
| kosmonaut | just a short question here: what desktop search engine will jaunty have? | 16:32 |
| kosmonaut | beagle? tracker? | 16:33 |
| gumpert345 | hi, is there an easy way to update from kubuntu 8.10 to jaunty jackalope ? | 16:33 |
| JanC | kosmonaut: tracker I suppose | 16:34 |
| JanC | gumpert345: update-manager -d | 16:35 |
| kosmonaut | JanC: I am asking cause I cant find tracker on Alpha5 | 16:35 |
| kosmonaut | (sure I could install it...but it's not there by default AFAIK) | 16:35 |
| JanC | kosmonaut: well, I only did an upgrade ツ | 16:35 |
| BUGabundo | kosmonaut: I heard some one say it was removed from the seeds | 16:35 |
| charlie-tca | kosmonaut: does it tell you here - http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/jaunty/alpha5 | 16:35 |
| JanC | gumpert345: running jaunty isn't always "easy" though | 16:36 |
| gumpert345 | JanC is update-manager a gnome program? it says, its not installed yet | 16:36 |
| BUGabundo | gumpert345: it should be installed! | 16:37 |
| JanC | gumpert345: I guess it has a Kubuntu version too | 16:37 |
| BUGabundo | please check if you have also the metapackage | 16:37 |
| BUGabundo | k/ubuntu-desktop | 16:37 |
| BUGabundo | JanC: its cross WE AFAIK | 16:38 |
| JanC | gumpert345: update-manager-kde | 16:38 |
| gumpert345 | I run adept but I couldnt use it for dist upgrade | 16:38 |
| kosmonaut | charlie-tca: not sure what you mean...i cant find anything realted to desktopsearch...(maybe i am blind) | 16:38 |
| charlie-tca | kosmonaut: I am sorry. I meant that for gunpert3345 | 16:38 |
| BUGabundo | gumpert345: I should have read colin latest email on that! | 16:39 |
| kosmonaut | charlie-tca: ok...no problem ;-) I was just wondering | 16:39 |
| charlie-tca | gumpert345: did you check the release notes | 16:39 |
| JanC | gumpert345: but remember that jaunty is still alpha; things will break and you might have to fix things yourself (sometimes even without X) | 16:39 |
| gumpert345 | oh, | 16:39 |
| charlie-tca | ttp://www.ubuntu.com/testing/jaunty/alpha5 | 16:39 |
| charlie-tca | kosmonaut: I suppose I would too on that one | 16:39 |
| kosmonaut | :) | 16:40 |
| * charlie-tca going hide again | 16:40 | |
| kosmonaut | something i do not really undestand...what is the use of that little mail-symbol on the panel. it say (something like) pidgin internet-message-service. Now when ever i get some IM via pidgin I got 2 alerts in the panel: 1. from pidgin 2. from this new message icon. Don't understand the use of it | 16:45 |
| BUGabundo | kosmonaut: the idea is that the pidgin ico will go away some time soon | 16:46 |
| BUGabundo | hi maco. welcomed | 16:46 |
| maco | BUGabundo: which is a good thing | 16:46 |
| maco | because its not a notification and thus does not belong in the notification area | 16:46 |
| BUGabundo | maco: like the IPv6 thingy | 16:47 |
| maco | now if only they'd get rid of that stupid hiding and use normal minimize | 16:47 |
| kosmonaut | BUGabundo: so it's still work in progress right? | 16:47 |
| maco | and exit on close | 16:47 |
| maco | like the rest of the world | 16:47 |
| BUGabundo | maco: I was at Tokamak... I saw the discussion of kde guys about all of that! it's a lovelly plan | 16:47 |
| BUGabundo | maco: I one of those that like the app to be minimized some where... no need to have a FULL app space on the tray | 16:48 |
| maco | BUGabundo: had to start using quassel bug #341106 | 16:48 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 341106 in irssi "Irssi sometimes sends no packets when using IPv6" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/341106 | 16:48 |
| maco | BUGabundo: minimized to where windows minimize makes sense to me | 16:49 |
| maco | why have 2 places for minimized windows to go (the window list and the notification area)? | 16:49 |
| BUGabundo | then we need a dock to minimized progs, like the plasma spec wants! | 16:49 |
| maco | or just get rid of the window list! | 16:50 |
| BUGabundo | oops... I'm not supposed to mention that on public | 16:50 |
| maco | my windows minimize to simply being invisible | 16:50 |
| maco | if i want a window back, i alt+tab | 16:50 |
| * BUGabundo places dark glasses and Flashes everyone (aka MIB stile) | 16:50 | |
| maco | BUGabundo: um, so you know, flashes means something else in english | 16:50 |
| BUGabundo | buubs | 16:51 |
| maco | not when a guy does it | 16:51 |
| BUGabundo | no? | 16:51 |
| BUGabundo | lol | 16:51 |
| BUGabundo | what then? | 16:51 |
| maco | indecent exposure of another sort | 16:51 |
| BUGabundo | I bet that would everyone forget what I said.... lol even better then MIB ehehe | 16:52 |
| Eruaran | oh... | 16:58 |
| fosco__ | inal de root | 16:58 |
| Eruaran | KPackageKit is integrated with KDE's System Settings | 16:58 |
| Eruaran | very nice ! | 16:58 |
| fosco__ | ups, sorry | 16:58 |
| Eruaran | guys, this is awesome | 17:09 |
| Eruaran | Great work Kubuntu team | 17:09 |
| kosmonaut | does some1 use Thunderbird here? Just want to know if message-filters work for you in TB? | 17:10 |
| Eruaran | TB ? | 17:10 |
| kosmonaut | thunderbird | 17:10 |
| Eruaran | oooh | 17:10 |
| Eruaran | :P | 17:11 |
| kosmonaut | sorry i kind of lazy today | 17:11 |
| BUGabundo | kosmonaut: ask on #ubuntu-mozillateam | 17:11 |
| kosmonaut | good "." | 17:11 |
| === DanaG1 is now known as DanaG | ||
| DanaG | BUGabundo: you said "flashes", and I thought of a guy giving a smile and having his teeth make a "shiny" sound. | 17:15 |
| BUGabundo | hehe | 17:16 |
| gumpert345 | I tried to update but I get this message: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/libi/libio-socket-ssl-perl/libio-socket-ssl-perl_1.18-1_all.deb 404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.46 80] | 17:24 |
| === iamarockstar is now known as tgpraveen | ||
| BUGabundo | gumpert345: change to another mirror and try again | 17:32 |
| BUGabundo | NEVER do an upgrade while incomplete or Parcial | 17:33 |
| michael__ | I got disconnected from transmission and now my download is going very slowly, what should I do? | 17:39 |
| BUGabundo | michael__: have better ratio | 17:40 |
| mathias | hi, my problem umts wvdial network-manager 7.0.x and umtsmon can't connect on wvdial i get the message "... no carrier..." after ATDT can somebody help me? btw. modem is Hauwei e620 | 17:50 |
| maco | BUGabundo: ratio only matters on private trackers, i thought | 17:52 |
| igascream | hi I'm using alpha 5 and want to know if it is safe to switch to ext4 ? Is it possible to lose data? | 18:29 |
| danbhfive | igascream: AFAIK, ext4 is included in jaunty for testing, and will be considered stable for koala. I did see a bug report about people loosing data... | 18:30 |
| igascream | thanks alot | 18:31 |
| igascream | also have some issue with ati driver. there are blinking white strips on screen.... is it a known bug? | 18:32 |
| igascream | Is bootchart now saves it's logs in archive ? I cant make it generate pictures what may be the problem? | 18:40 |
| CosmiChaos | Does somebody know how to enable nautilus to create thumbnails for mpeg and x264??? I have it working for xvid, all unstripped packages and thumbnailers installed. Please help. | 18:41 |
| crdlb | CosmiChaos: can totem play them? | 18:45 |
| CosmiChaos | crdlb: yes | 18:46 |
| Alexia_Death | Anybody else having knetworkmanager problems? | 18:46 |
| CosmiChaos | crdlb: oh wait you are right it cant, what to do? | 18:47 |
| crdlb | nautilus is using totem-video-thumbnailer to get the thumbnails | 18:48 |
| CosmiChaos | crdlb: i have all totem packages installed all lib*-unstripped | 18:48 |
| CosmiChaos | crdlb: thanks for that information, but do you know how to make totem able to process x264 and mpeg? | 18:48 |
| crdlb | presumably, one of the plugin packs would cover that | 18:49 |
| crdlb | for gstreamer | 18:49 |
| CosmiChaos | crdlb: all gstreamer-plugins are installed :( | 18:49 |
| tuxxy__ | hey all wondering if anyone had twinview setup and working on jaunty yet | 18:52 |
| CosmiChaos | crdlb: i have installed base good bad bad-multiverse ugly ugly-multiverse farsight and ffmpeg plugins for gstreamer installed. it still does not work. | 18:53 |
| === JanC_ is now known as JanC | ||
| CosmiChaos | Can anyone help he? I have thumbnails for XVID but not for MPEG and X264 in jaunty? Does anyone see thumbnails of such on anyones system? | 19:02 |
| crdlb | err, your problem is that gstreamer can't play them, not that they're not being thumbnailed :) | 19:03 |
| CosmiChaos | ok so why does gstreamer not play them? the plugins are all installed! | 19:05 |
| crdlb | nice, TED videos + totem = segfault | 19:05 |
| CosmiChaos | crdlb: please in english | 19:05 |
| crdlb | I just tried to play a ted.com video (hires version) and totem segfaulted | 19:06 |
| crdlb | all of them do it too | 19:07 |
| CosmiChaos | crdlb: i thought it would be gstreamer that had a problem? .... *confused* | 19:07 |
| crdlb | yep, segfault in gst-launch-0.10 too | 19:08 |
| CosmiChaos | i dont know what a *.ted video is either you are riddling man im on another side of the universe then you | 19:08 |
| SwedeMike | CosmiChaos: www.ted.com perhaps? | 19:09 |
| SwedeMike | they have a lot of videos | 19:09 |
| CosmiChaos | perfhaps i ddnt know that | 19:09 |
| CosmiChaos | i dont know and care what anyone has got, i have got a mpeg, a x264 and a xvid, all playing fine with vls and mplayer, but the thumbnails in nautilus are missing for x264 and meg thats all my problem is made of | 19:10 |
| === Seeker`_ is now known as Seeker` | ||
| CosmiChaos | so ifid like to know how to provide furthe rinformations to this gstreamer/totem/nautilus-bug whatsoever | 19:12 |
| CosmiChaos | What i got out of totem is this playing an MPEG: ** Message: Error: Internal data stream error.gstmpegdemux.c(762): gst_flups_demux_sink_event (): /GstPlayBin:play/GstDecodeBin:decodebin0/GstMpegPSDemux:mpegpsdemux0:Can't push EOS downstream | 19:16 |
| CosmiChaos | crdlb: i tried installing gstreamer plugins mpeg mux and demux that require to remove bad, now the internal data stream error issappears, no video output but no crash | 19:23 |
| CosmiChaos | but still no thumbnails :( | 19:24 |
| CosmiChaos | i gonna use mms, that uses ffmpeg thumbnailer | 19:24 |
| === xxploit_ is now known as xxploit | ||
| phytopius | someone knows something about a driver for ati radeion graphic cards with jaunty.. still dosn't work on my laptop | 20:07 |
| blueyed | "Lock screen" does not work in Kubuntu anymore?! confirmations? | 20:32 |
| blueyed | Also, when the screen gets blanked, it takes ~30-60 seconds after waking it up before any mouse/keyboard input is registered. | 20:32 |
| Ienorand | DOes anyone know if bug 284377 has been solved in latest build? | 20:53 |
| ubottu | Error: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: The read operation timed out (https://launchpad.net/bugs/284377/+text) | 20:53 |
| Ienorand | Hmm, lp problems?.. | 20:54 |
| kindofabuzz | when i make a desktop launcher, it comes out as a <whatever>.desktop, then i have to give it trust in order to run. is this something new in jaunty? or just not fixed yet? | 21:04 |
| kindofabuzz | even when i select something in the menu and choose to place it on the desktop, it does the same thing | 21:05 |
| === DanaG1 is now known as DanaG | ||
| kindofabuzz | nvm, it's a known bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/340425 | 21:07 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 340425 in gnome-panel "[Jaunty] Desktop launchers created with wrong permissions set" [Low,Triaged] | 21:07 |
| === DanaG1 is now known as DanaG | ||
| antoranz | HI, guys! | 21:18 |
| antoranz | I'm having a core dump on apt | 21:18 |
| antoranz | what can I do? | 21:19 |
| antoranz | I last updated like 6 or 7 years ago | 21:19 |
| antoranz | I mean, hours! :-D | 21:19 |
| Ienorand | Does anyone know if bug 284377 has been solved in latest build? | 21:20 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 284377 in linux "No NET with 2.6.27: No buffer space available" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/284377 | 21:20 |
| hggdh | antoranz, I had a similar issue a few days ago | 21:25 |
| hggdh | antoranz, and I am trying to remember what I did... | 21:26 |
| antoranz | should I install http://co.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/a/apt/apt_0.7.20.2ubuntu2_i386.deb directly? | 21:29 |
| antoranz | I still get the cire dump | 21:31 |
| hggdh | this is not your current apt version? | 21:31 |
| antoranz | Fuck! | 21:31 |
| Seeker` | !language | antoranz | 21:31 |
| ubottu | antoranz: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly. | 21:31 |
| antoranz | k, sorry | 21:31 |
| antoranz | In the backtrce the last call is 0xb7cac5eb in strlen () from /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6 | 21:33 |
| antoranz | if I put it on a pastebin, could anybody look at the backtrace and tell me where I have to head? :-) | 21:34 |
| hggdh | pastebin the bt | 21:34 |
| antoranz | k | 21:34 |
| antoranz | give me a second | 21:34 |
| kindofabuzz | alpha 6 today? | 21:36 |
| hggdh | should be (if you are already on March 12) | 21:36 |
| antoranz | there you go: http://www.pastebin.ca/1358542 | 21:36 |
| kindofabuzz | oh, only march 11 here | 21:36 |
| hggdh | antoranz, I do not think this is the same issue I had. It is probably a good idea to open a bug on it | 21:38 |
| antoranz | not what I wanted to hear... I would have loved to get a couple of sudos instead. :-) | 21:39 |
| hggdh | :-) | 21:39 |
| lordnoid | Hi I don't have sound in flash on ubuntu jaunty alpha.. using 64-bit.. swfdec or proprietary flash doesn't matter | 21:42 |
| skyjumper | anyone have adobe reader working in jaunty amd64? | 21:45 |
| skyjumper | it freezes after loading here | 21:46 |
| kindofabuzz | get rid of adobe =) | 21:49 |
| unixdawg | <unixdawg> I need to get jaunty 64 and load it on my64 laptop | 21:50 |
| unixdawg | <unixdawg> url | 21:50 |
| TheInfinity | !cdimages | 21:53 |
| ubottu | Sorry, I don't know anything about cdimages | 21:53 |
| TheInfinity | !cd | 21:53 |
| ubottu | Sorry, I don't know anything about cd | 21:53 |
| TheInfinity | !images | 21:53 |
| ubottu | Sorry, I don't know anything about images | 21:53 |
| TheInfinity | :/ | 21:53 |
| TheInfinity | unixdawg: read topic :p | 21:53 |
| antoranz | where can I get the .deb for libstdc++6? | 21:53 |
| skyjumper | antoranz: packages.ubuntu.com | 21:54 |
| unixdawg | apt-get | 21:54 |
| antoranz | well... that was an oversight on my part | 21:54 |
| antoranz | hold on | 21:54 |
| antoranz | well... I updated all packages involved in the backtrace (download/dpkg) but the problem remains | 21:57 |
| antoranz | I already created the bug report | 21:57 |
| dtchen | lordnoid: sorry, connection issues. if you responded, please repaste | 21:57 |
| antoranz | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/341402 | 21:57 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 341402 in apt "apt-get: segmentation fault (jaunty)" [Undecided,New] | 21:57 |
| antoranz | that's it | 21:57 |
| lordnoid | dtchen, I didn't.. did you ask me something? | 21:57 |
| antoranz | kde doesn't want to start either... perhaps both problems are related? | 21:58 |
| dtchen | lordnoid: yes, i asked if you had audible audio in non-{swf,flv} media | 21:58 |
| dtchen | lordnoid: (it likely didn't go through due to client pinging out) | 21:58 |
| lordnoid | in amarok2 it's working fine, but I don't have sound in VLC either | 21:58 |
| lordnoid | I was just about to try disabling pulseaudio | 21:58 |
| dtchen | lordnoid: are you logged into through kdm or gdm using kde or gnome? | 21:59 |
| lordnoid | but im now in kde | 21:59 |
| lordnoid | kdm, kde | 21:59 |
| unixdawg | kde rulzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz | 21:59 |
| unixdawg | sorry | 21:59 |
| dtchen | lordnoid: ok, kde doesn't use pulseaudio by default, but it should autospawn | 21:59 |
| dtchen | lordnoid: please try: killall pulseaudio; pulseaudio -vvv | 21:59 |
| dtchen | lordnoid: then pastebin the debug spew for me, please | 22:00 |
| lordnoid | http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/129953/ | 22:01 |
| lordnoid | dtchen, I'm playing youtube at the end | 22:01 |
| lordnoid | and im hearing some weak noise | 22:01 |
| dtchen | lordnoid: can you use pavucontrol to migrate the stream to the desired output device and/or adjust the volume? | 22:03 |
| lordnoid | hm yes it is in there | 22:03 |
| lordnoid | dtchen, I can adjust volume and only have one output | 22:04 |
| unixdawg | ok this wil give me something to do tongiht | 22:04 |
| unixdawg | lol | 22:04 |
| dtchen | lordnoid: and both the default sink and the application are set to 100% ? | 22:05 |
| lordnoid | dtchen, yes | 22:05 |
| lordnoid | hm firefox crashes now | 22:06 |
| lordnoid | bleh amarok doesn't work anymore too :( | 22:06 |
| lordnoid | shall I switch to gnome and disable pulseaudio to see what that does? | 22:06 |
| dtchen | lordnoid: you'll first need to disable autospawn | 22:07 |
| lordnoid | dtchen, how? | 22:07 |
| dtchen | lordnoid: comment out the autospawn line in /etc/pulse/client.conf | 22:07 |
| lordnoid | ok done | 22:07 |
| lordnoid | brb then | 22:08 |
| unixdawg | ok this sucks my laptop runs better then my desktop and its older | 22:09 |
| Dillizar | hey | 22:10 |
| Dillizar | will 9.04 kill the webcam like 8.10?? | 22:10 |
| dtchen | we need more information regarding the specific webcam | 22:10 |
| dtchen | and we need a bug report referencing "like 8.10" | 22:10 |
| Dillizar | dtchen, dunno but on 8.04 my web cam was working and lot more | 22:12 |
| dtchen | Dillizar: please provide hardware info on your web cam | 22:12 |
| Dillizar | its a labtec | 22:12 |
| dtchen | specifically? | 22:13 |
| Dillizar | as i recall they said that some drivers were removed from 8.10 | 22:13 |
| Dillizar | there are only 6-7 models i think | 22:13 |
| Dillizar | :) | 22:13 |
| dtchen | you should check lspci/lsusb or lshal | 22:13 |
| lordnoid | well still only noise | 22:13 |
| dtchen | lordnoid: what sort of noise? | 22:14 |
| lordnoid | now all programs stopped their sound | 22:14 |
| lordnoid | oss works fine :p | 22:14 |
| lordnoid | uh it's not loud | 22:14 |
| dtchen | ok, so we start at the bottom. | 22:14 |
| lordnoid | some crackling noise | 22:14 |
| dtchen | run http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh and tell me the url | 22:14 |
| dtchen | (download it, run it as a bash script) | 22:15 |
| unixdawg | you need to install the alsa-oss also | 22:15 |
| dtchen | and if you're only using ALSA directly, make sure your user is in the audio group. | 22:15 |
| Dillizar | dtchen, Bus 004 Device 002: ID 046d:0929 Logitech, Inc. Labtec WebCam Pro | 22:15 |
| lordnoid | Your ALSA information is located at http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=24bd5f138c0dc6d6124d260baf177cf4ad54e064 | 22:16 |
| dtchen | Dillizar: now cross-reference that ID (046d:0929) with bug reports in jaunty affecting the `linux' source package | 22:16 |
| lordnoid | I don't have alsa-oss.. | 22:16 |
| dtchen | you don't need alsa-oss | 22:16 |
| Dillizar | dtchen, i am trying something called easycam :D | 22:16 |
| Dillizar | but its lil bit french | 22:17 |
| Dillizar | :D | 22:17 |
| dtchen | ah | 22:17 |
| dtchen | lordnoid: your PCM is set to 0. | 22:17 |
| Dillizar | and i dont trust french specially with electronics :P | 22:17 |
| lordnoid | ah youre right | 22:18 |
| lordnoid | still no sound though lol | 22:18 |
| dtchen | lordnoid: see your Surround, Center, LFE, and Side controls, too | 22:18 |
| lordnoid | yeah but I only have 2 speakers | 22:19 |
| dtchen | note they're all zeroed and muted | 22:19 |
| Ienorand | anyone know when kernel 2.6.29 is goind to pop up in jaunty? | 22:19 |
| dtchen | Ienorand: it won't. | 22:19 |
| lordnoid | dtchen, thanks :D my sound is back | 22:20 |
| dtchen | lordnoid: which control did you have to adjust? | 22:20 |
| lordnoid | surrond,center,lfe,side | 22:20 |
| Ienorand | dtchen: okay, I was wondering since bug 284377 seems to be fixed with it... | 22:20 |
| lordnoid | I dont know why | 22:20 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 284377 in linux "No NET with 2.6.27: No buffer space available" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/284377 | 22:20 |
| dtchen | lordnoid: did you happen to get which one? | 22:20 |
| lordnoid | because im really sure my speakers are on the right output :p | 22:21 |
| lordnoid | ill try one by one | 22:21 |
| dtchen | thanks. | 22:21 |
| askand | Is evolution crashing for everyone else too when using calendar? | 22:21 |
| dtchen | i'll probably need to build logic into alsa-util.c to twiddle them | 22:21 |
| Ienorand | It is a bit annaoying since this is stopping me from doing any testing on my machine atm. | 22:21 |
| dtchen | Ienorand: are you using a mainline build from ~kernel-ppa? | 22:22 |
| lordnoid | dtchen, uh I disabled them again but the sound is still working :p | 22:22 |
| dtchen | lordnoid: what do you mean by disabled? | 22:22 |
| askand | Is anyone else having big problems with pulseaudio that werent there in intrepid? | 22:22 |
| lordnoid | dtchen, back to zero and muted | 22:22 |
| dtchen | askand: well, yes | 22:22 |
| dtchen | askand: what specifically, however? | 22:23 |
| askand | dtchen: scrathy sound, totem suddenly stops playing music and I have to close it, kill pulseaudio and restart it | 22:23 |
| dtchen | lordnoid: did you need to add your user to @audio? | 22:23 |
| dtchen | askand: which specific package revision of pulseaudio? | 22:23 |
| lordnoid | dtchen, I didn't do that.. | 22:24 |
| Ienorand | dtchen: no I'm just using daily lives, and I get no network connection at all | 22:24 |
| askand | dtchen: Version: 0.9.14-0ubuntu11 | 22:24 |
| askand | dtchen: It feels like different apps is competing to reach soundoutput | 22:24 |
| dtchen | askand: did you enable glitch-free in /etc/pulse/default.pa ? | 22:24 |
| lordnoid | dtchen, but the only user in the audio group is "pulse" | 22:24 |
| dtchen | lordnoid: ok, that's proper | 22:25 |
| askand | dtchen: no, do I just add glitch-free to the bottom? | 22:25 |
| dtchen | askand: no, find the load-module module-hal-detect tsched=0 line, and remove tsched=0 | 22:26 |
| dtchen | then kill pulseaudio | 22:26 |
| askand | dtchen: Ah remember seeing that, that lennart-developer-guy was angry on the ubuntukernel but this was a workaround | 22:27 |
| dtchen | askand: the root cause of your symptom is fairly complicated and involves two parts: the kernel (`linux' source package) and pulseaudio (`pulseaudio') | 22:27 |
| dtchen | i've already fixed the pulseaudio portion | 22:27 |
| unixdawg | when is gstreamer going to be fixed | 22:27 |
| dtchen | i'm evaluating whether the linux portion is mergeable into jaunty's `linux' | 22:27 |
| askand | dtchen: I applaud your work :) | 22:28 |
| unixdawg | so that when users play mp3/avi they dont play at x2 speed | 22:28 |
| dtchen | also, not all hardware plays nicely with the default setting of tsched=0 (glitch-free disabled) | 22:28 |
| askand | unixdawg: I dont have that, sounds funny but annoying :) | 22:28 |
| dtchen | some users get better performance with glitch-free enabled due to broken hardware | 22:28 |
| dtchen | some users get better performance with it disabled due to broken hardware | 22:28 |
| Dillizar | dtchen, Module gspca not found. i need this :D and i dont know what it is but i had it in 8.04 | 22:28 |
| dtchen | either way, we have to fudge around broken hardware somewhere | 22:28 |
| askand | dtchen: That sounds like a complicated problem indeed | 22:29 |
| unixdawg | I do on all 4 of my systems | 22:29 |
| unixdawg | the music jumps and plays at what sounds lik x2 speed | 22:29 |
| dtchen | Ienorand: are you planning to test in a vm? | 22:30 |
| dtchen | Ienorand: if so, you could try http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.29-rc7/ | 22:30 |
| askand | unixdawg: I remember suffering from that bug when I had smoked bad things.. ;) just kidding, do you have a link to the report? | 22:30 |
| unixdawg | it happens in audacious | 22:31 |
| unixdawg | and no I have no link to the report on the issue | 22:31 |
| dtchen | which issue? | 22:31 |
| dtchen | audio aberrations? | 22:31 |
| dtchen | that's bug 330814 | 22:32 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 330814 in linux "snd_pcm_avail_update() returning absurd values causes PulseAudio to abort" [Low,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/330814 | 22:32 |
| unixdawg | ok it seems to be fixed as of today | 22:34 |
| unixdawg | yesterday it was not working | 22:34 |
| unixdawg | I just updated my laptop and now its working correctly | 22:35 |
| shane_ | I have an sd card mounted as /home on my eeepc in jaunty. Up until very recently gdm tells me /home doesn't exist when I try to log in. If I mount with mount -a, it works and I can log in. Why isn't this being mounted on boot like the "auto" option commands? | 22:51 |
| maco | anyone else finding that evolution won't start? | 22:53 |
| dtchen | 18:21 < askand> Is evolution crashing for everyone else too when using calendar? | 22:53 |
| maco | er....but that suggests it launches to begin with, then crashes when you go to the calendar | 22:54 |
| bruce89 | works for me | 22:54 |
| dtchen | fresh login? | 22:54 |
| maco | will try | 22:55 |
| bruce89 | anything interesting in a terminal? | 22:56 |
| maco | just the usual atk warnings | 22:56 |
| dtchen | Cycom: i'll need you to test a kernel from my ppa in ~6 hours | 22:58 |
| shane_ | I wonder if a recent update broke the possibility of mounting the sd at /home on boot. At least that's what I'm seeing with no changes to fstab | 23:00 |
| hggdh | mako, what evo version? | 23:13 |
| hggdh | maco ^^ | 23:14 |
| hggdh | and sorry to make you in a shark ... | 23:14 |
| dtchen | as long as you pronounced the short 'a', you're fine | 23:14 |
| hggdh | :-) | 23:15 |
| shane_ | I broke down and added /bin/mount /home to my rc.local to mount my sd card automatically. Something with a recent jaunty update broke my fstab | 23:17 |
| hggdh | jeez, Evo startup is getting to be a pain... | 23:19 |
| syockit | when I get a lockup that still allows me to SysRq-b, who can I blame: X11, or the kernel? | 23:28 |
| mase_work | syockit: can you ssh in ? | 23:31 |
| syockit | on my other laptop when that happened, yes | 23:31 |
| syockit | mase_work: sorry not pinging | 23:31 |
| skyjumper | i'm trying to get adobe reader to run on amd64, but it keeps loading 64bit libs from /usr/lib | 23:37 |
| skyjumper | setting an LD_LIBRARY_PATH didn't do it | 23:37 |
| skyjumper | any ideas? | 23:37 |
| dtchen | skyjumper: did you install ia32-libs | 23:37 |
| bruce89 | I wonder why adobe reader is needed at all | 23:38 |
| skyjumper | dtchen: of course | 23:38 |
| skyjumper | bruce89: irrelevant | 23:38 |
| dtchen | skyjumper: please ldd the actual acroread executable and pastebin the output | 23:39 |
| skyjumper | ooh just found ia32-apt-get. now that's elite | 23:39 |
| dtchen | :) | 23:40 |
| syockit | when I get a lockup that still allows me to either SysRq-b, or ssh in, who can I blame: X11, or the kernel? | 23:55 |
| syockit | I need a program name to curse when that happens | 23:55 |
| dtchen | see: graphics driver, possibly linux | 23:56 |
| syockit | I take it as the kernel then? | 23:56 |
| syockit | S('J&%$ 2.6.28 !!! | 23:57 |
| dtchen | i would look first at the graphics driver and then pop the stack | 23:57 |
| skyjumper | dtchen: not sure how to ldd this binary... $ ldd /opt/Adobe/Reader8/Reader/intellinux/bin/acroread | 23:58 |
| skyjumper | /usr/bin/ldd: line 117: /opt/Adobe/Reader8/Reader/intellinux/bin/acroread: No such file or directory | 23:58 |
| skyjumper | it also runs like this from a script: "/lib/ld-linux.so.2 /opt/Adobe/Reader8/Reader/intellinux/bin/acroread" | 23:59 |
| bruce89 | file /opt/Adobe/Reader8/Reader/intellinux/bin/acroread ? | 23:59 |
| skyjumper | yes? | 23:59 |
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