[01:33] <Amaranth> !-amaranth
[01:34] <Amaranth> Finally, peace
[01:34] <Amaranth> !amaranth is <reply> Sorry about this, someone wanted to use me to hurt you.
[01:34] <Amaranth> !no amaranth is <reply> Sorry about this, someone wanted to use me to hurt you.
[01:34] <Amaranth> ...
[01:35] <Amaranth> !amaranth-#ubuntu-ops is <reply> Sorry about this, someone wanted to use me to hurt you.
[01:35] <Amaranth> !amaranth
[01:35] <Amaranth> !amaranth-#ubuntu-offtopic is <reply> Sorry about this, someone wanted to use me to hurt you.
[01:35] <Amaranth> !forget amaranth-#ubuntu-ops
[01:35] <Amaranth> !amaranth-#ubuntu-offtopic is <reply> Sorry about this, someone wanted to use me to hurt you.
[01:35] <Amaranth> whatever, I think it worked
[01:35] <Amaranth> Maybe people will stop pinging me
[01:38] <Pici> !amaranth
[01:38] <Pici> :(
[01:38] <Amaranth> When I created it I only meant for me to use it
[01:38] <Amaranth> When I went away others started using it
[01:38] <Amaranth> Now I'm back and it's damn annoying
[01:58] <Pici> Thats what happens when you disappear
[01:59] <LjL> Pici: nobody used my factoid when i disappeared :(
[01:59] <LjL> although that's possibly because i don't have a factoid
[01:59] <LjL> also, i have no idea whether they did anyway, because my server stopped logging stuff
[02:04] <Pici> LjL: Because it was out of disk space? again?
[02:05] <LjL> Pici: not exactly... because last time i used my kludge php script to trim down the logs, i did it as root, so everything got chowned to root. so the actual user couldn't write to them anymore.
[02:05] <LjL> so yes, the original cause was full disk
[02:06] <Pici> Ah
[02:08] <LjL> i'm especially pissed about the -ot logs of course, also since they might perhaps have helped finding out just where wobblywu has gone.
[02:09] <Pici> LjL: I'm not sure what happened with that either.
[02:10] <LjL> Pici: last logs i have of him says "* wobblywu waves bye". i don't think he's ever used that way of saying goodnight before. but i don't know whether that's really the last thing he said.
[02:10] <Pici> All I have is: 2009-01-14 22:08:49 <?wobblywu> BigUrsis, don't be greedy
[02:11] <Pici> and then quit
[02:12] <LjL> Pici: in which case my logs don't cover that.
[02:25] <LjL> CyberSix smells like a rat to me... nickname, hostname, channels he's in
[02:26] <LjL> meh, i didn't look at /ns info though.
[02:26] <LjL> i always forget that part.
[02:27] <Pici> he has sexy penguins supposedly
[02:27] <LjL> Pici: probably the #Puppylinux ones
[02:28] <LjL> anyway... he's had them since 2004, so i doubt he'd be a worry.
[02:28] <LjL> i'll have to check the floodbot logs (tomorrow)
[02:28] <LjL> they called mass join on a netsplit
[02:28] <LjL> and not even on rejoin, but on split. which is kinda weird.
[02:29] <LjL> and mass join isn't too good to mistrigger as it sets +rR...
[03:00] <Amaranth> http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/46/sadiphonepu4.jpg
[04:18] <tritium> Good evening, Flannel.
[04:18] <Flannel> tritium: What happened to freenode this morning?
[04:18] <Flannel> er, Howdy tritium
[04:18] <tritium> Flannel: I have no idea.
[04:18] <Flannel> This morning being 12 hours ago
[04:19] <tritium> Yeah, were you disconnected too?
[04:19] <Flannel> I... got disconnected, and then ddn't reconnect? but half my channels have a re-join message? so I reconnected and then didn't?
[04:19] <Flannel> odd, at any rate.
[04:19] <tritium> Definitely.
[04:19] <Flannel> Yeah
[04:19] <Flannel> And hadn't gotten onto ssh until now
[04:20] <tritium> It happened last night when I was asleep, but I noticed it this morning.
[05:57] <Myrtti> moin
[06:10] <Flannel> Howdy Myrtti 
[06:13] <Myrtti> ooooh, a Gwibber screencast! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WlXKlMXGxw
[06:39] <Myrtti> oh btw, I heard yesterday at the doctors that the painkiller that is my own favorite is on prescription in UK because it causes ulcers, and kills about 100 in Finland pa.
[06:40] <Myrtti> so... I guess *cough* I should *cough* stop taking it in quadruple amounts *cough* and perhaps *cough* change my painmeds
[06:41] <Myrtti> and perhaps even *cough* stop stressing
[06:51] <Myrtti> BLEEP BLEEP BLEEP GroovyOrange
[07:30] <Amaranth> @btlogin
[07:32] <Amaranth> If/when nihilism joins here he can be unbanned if he gets rid of the script
[07:32] <Amaranth> (left a comment in the bantracker too)
[07:37] <Myrtti> !register
[07:37] <Myrtti> ubottu: tell FTale_ about register
[07:37] <Myrtti> damnit
[07:41] <topyli> heh, good error message
[08:49] <bazhang> LjL, cybersix is a long-time archlinux channel troll (ie against ubuntu)
[09:22] <Myrtti> @bansearch Pip
[10:23]  * Myrtti pokes Tm_T 
[10:23] <Myrtti> topyli: *poke*
[10:24] <topyli> Myrtti: *prod*
[10:25] <Myrtti> hmmmm actually I think that our usual suspect Tm_T might have a better idea on this...
[10:25] <topyli> that's usually a safe bet
[10:25] <Tm_T> yes?
[10:26] <Myrtti> Tm_T: I prodded you on gtalk
[10:26] <Tm_T> roger roger
[10:28] <topyli> oh great. groovyOrange i back on -ot
[10:29] <bazhang> ugh
[10:31] <Myrtti> topyli: I told you
[10:31] <Myrtti> at nine am
[10:32] <topyli> oh. bad time to tell me things i guess
[10:36] <Myrtti> http://lists.ethernal.org/oldarchives/cantlug-0211/msg00174.html *snork*
[10:40] <topyli> heh, at the academia we call that "teaching a course to undergraduates on current developments in your field"
[10:40] <topyli> after the course, the students have learned nothing but you have
[10:44] <Myrtti> http://www.geocities.com/softwarepeoplenet/resteddybear.html
[10:57] <topyli> oh dear. some student was looking for a classroom where someone is going to speak. i told him the guest speaker had canceled. problem: i confused the guest for another and this one is indeed around
[10:57] <topyli> wonderful. of course i have no idea who this student is so as to tell him about my error
[11:06] <bazhang> groovyorange already getting a bit creepy
[11:15]  * ikonia is being drove around the bend with sed scripting
[11:16] <ikonia> bazhang: it's growasapples - boot him if he's being an issue - he's had warnings
[11:16] <bazhang> hehe
[11:16]  * Myrtti huggles ikonia
[11:16] <bazhang> ikonia, as soon as I dont get the 'you are not allowed to perform this action' message 
[11:16] <Myrtti> sed scripting is loooovely
[11:18] <ikonia> ah
[11:18] <ikonia> Myrtti: case insensative find and replace substitution
[11:18] <ikonia> Myrtti: done it before ?
[11:19] <Myrtti> ikonia: magic word: regexp
[11:19] <ikonia> Myrtti: within sed ?
[11:19] <Myrtti> sure
[11:19] <ikonia> I gues I could look at it that way
[11:19] <ikonia> guess
[11:20] <ikonia> quit hard to split out user intput words into regex case insensagive
[11:21] <ikonia> eg: prod would need to beomce [Pp][Rr][Oo][Dd]
[11:21] <Myrtti> http://paste.ubuntu.com/129698/
[11:21] <Myrtti> that's done with sed magic, nothing case insensetive, but that's what I do for work
[11:22] <Myrtti> s/^\(\[[0-9]*:[0-9]*\] ~~~[0-9]* - #ubuntu: ban \)\(.*[^\ ]\)\ \[by \([^\ \,!]*\).*/\3 \/mode -b \2/g
[11:23] <ikonia> the substitution is easy, it's just searching for a regex case insensitive then replacing it with a word in the same case partern
[11:23] <ikonia> eg: repalce prod with test - but PrOd would need to be TeSt
[11:23] <ikonia> I may look at doing this in a simpler way
[11:25] <Myrtti> ikonia: talk to the teddybear/rubberduck
[11:25] <Myrtti> it'll help ;-)
[11:32] <ikonia> I can do this easy with find, just can't work out how to manipulate the output of find
[11:33] <ikonia> eg: find / -type d -name '*prod*' -exec mv '{}' '{}' | sed 's/prod/test/g'
[11:33] <ikonia> clearly you can't do that
[11:33] <ikonia> but there must me a way to use the output to manipulate it
[12:04] <Myrtti> @bansearch zer0c00l 
[12:04] <ikonia> shadeslayer ?
[12:06] <Myrtti> not that I know of
[12:06] <ikonia> I thought that was hi old ip range
[12:07] <Myrtti> well he's complaining in #freenode about being banned from almost all channels
[12:07] <Myrtti> I have no idea
[12:07] <Myrtti> @bansearch *!*@210.212.255.131
[12:07] <Myrtti> @bansearch *!*@210.212.255.*
[12:08] <Myrtti> @bansearch *!*@210.212.*
[12:08] <Myrtti> *shrug*
[12:11] <Pici> bleh, hi
[12:15] <ikonia> fyi: xargs was the non-stupid way of approaching my problem :)
[12:45] <Myrtti> @bansearch siegie
[12:46] <Myrtti> @bansearch siegie!*@*
[12:46] <Myrtti> stupid bots
 -WARNING: siegie!siegie@unaffiliated/siegie may be evading the ban on siegie!n=siegie@unaffiliated/siegie
[12:49] <Pici> LjL said that those messages may be wrong, hes working on redoing that part of the bot.
[12:49] <Myrtti> yeah
[12:50] <Myrtti> I'm just infinitely intrested *why* or *where* does it get those warnings
[12:51] <jussi01> ikonia: ping
[12:51] <elky> Myrtti, likewise
[12:51] <elky> i mean, it's not like it can see the uncloaked ips
[12:53] <elky> it possibly doesnt consider lifted bans or something
[12:54] <Myrtti> elky: looking at the bantracker, there has never been a ban on him
[12:55] <Pici> My logs don't show any bans either. Maybe its doing something weird at netsplits.
[12:55] <elky> it's seeing *something* we're not. not necessarily correctly though
[12:55] <Myrtti> marcel1607 is going to fly soon
[12:58] <Myrtti> !attitude
[13:00] <Myrtti> his attitude needs a bit work
[13:00] <ikonia> jussi01: you called ?
[13:00] <jussi01> ikonia: see pm
[13:33] <Pici> Weird. Looking at backscroll on wers
[13:34] <ikonia> doesn't make any sense to me ?
[13:34] <ikonia> why would he change his uid to 80
[13:34] <Pici> I have no clue
[13:34] <ikonia> I wanted to know if there was a problem that made him to do this before blindly telling him to change it back to 0 
[13:43]  * genii brews a fresh pot of delicious coffee
[13:43]  * Myrtti has run out of milk, goes to make tea
[13:45] <ikonia> @mark #ubuntu erbi bad language, quite when questioned why
[13:45] <ikonia> @mark 
[13:45] <ikonia> phew got the syntax right
[13:59] <jussi01> has anyone who hangs in #k-ot got any opinions on Minataku's POTD's? they are a tiny bit risque, but just very borderline... he has been posting them for a while now and I am a little curious to others point of view.
[13:59] <jussi01> ie. todays example: http://www100.sakura.ne.jp/~discharge/tope143.jpg
[13:59] <jussi01> (this is the guy who thinks he is a cat...)
[14:00]  * jussi01 eyes genii in particular and stdin if he is around
[14:02] <genii> jussi01: I don't usually have an issue with his pics of the day. Although one or two others have complained saying they think he is pushing his furry/gender views. I did previously warn him when some of the links had ads in them (aside from the pic) that were pornographic in nature.
[14:03] <genii> (he has since stopped posting links from that particular site)
[14:04] <Myrtti> oh lord
[14:04] <Pici> Aye
[14:08] <jpds> That pic's scary.
[14:09] <genii> Nothing worse than you could see on daytime cartoons however, as far as content
[14:10] <Myrtti> that particular one is borderlining though
[14:10] <Myrtti> "its not my porn, but it's yours"
[14:10] <Myrtti> atleast they have clothes on...
[14:10] <genii> Hehe, yeah
[14:11] <Myrtti> those rock hard nipples are a bit...
[14:11] <Myrtti> erm
[14:11] <Pici> err
[14:11] <genii> There haven't been any recent complaints (that I'm aware) in the channel regarding his links. Although we sometimes have extensive discussions in ##club-ubuntu on the subject
[14:15] <LjL> Myrtti: you make porn?
[14:15] <LjL> it's funny how things read when you don't have the context because you just connected.
[14:16] <Myrtti> nitpicker
[14:16] <jussi01> hehe
[14:16] <Myrtti> "it's not porn in my eyes, but it's porn in yours"
[14:16]  * genii makes a coffee for LjL
[14:16] <LjL> genii: i just had one, but i do probably need another
[14:16] <jussi01> genii: Ive had a few recent complaints (in the last month or so)
[14:17] <Myrtti> jussi01: I probably would have mentioned something about that too
[14:17] <Myrtti> it makes me a bit uncomfortable
[14:18] <LjL> who are we talking about that posts dodgy links anyway?
[14:18] <genii> jussi01: Do you think some action needs to be taken?
[14:18] <LjL> not that mneptok fellow again i hope
[14:18] <jussi01> Myrtti: yeah. Ive asked before to make sure the content is family friendly, but I need to think about it a little more as how to exactly define it as such without being a total butt about it. 
[14:18] <genii> LjL: Minataku in #k-o
[14:19] <LjL> oh gawd minataku
[14:19] <LjL> i hates him.
[14:19] <jussi01> LjL: hehe
[14:19] <LjL> but i generally ignore #k-o entirely
[14:19] <LjL> as the shortened name says...
[14:29]  * genii makes more coffee
[14:43] <mneptok> LjL: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDiR7UxI8Ow
[14:43]  * Myrtti smacks mneptok 
[14:44]  * genii helps
[14:47] <ikonia> what's the bot command to find out what package a command comes  in
[14:47] <ikonia> I thought it was !apt-file
[14:48] <genii> I didn't even know the bot had that capability
[14:48] <genii> (other than !info packagename)
[14:48] <ikonia> think I've got it anyway
[14:54] <ikonia> !ping
[14:54] <ikonia> !find rename
[15:20] <Myrtti> HUG NAO kplzthxbai
[15:20]  * Pici hugs Myrtti 
[15:20]  * genii tries to find his gibberish dictionary
[15:21]  * Myrtti smacks genii with LOLcat-English dictionary
[15:21] <genii> Ooooo.... I actually could use one of those
[15:21] <Myrtti> Hug, now, ok, please? thanks. bye.
[15:22] <Myrtti> ^ translation
[15:22]  * genii gives Myrtti a bear-hug
[16:17]  * genii sips
[18:17] <azlon> i'm  on port 8001 and it still fails
[18:17] <LjL> azlon: may i check manually?=
[18:17] <LjL> azlon: wait, it didn't fail
[18:17] <LjL> it succeeded
[18:18] <azlon> worked this time... not sure why i got booted... i logged in on port 8001
[18:18] <LjL> ok i'll just test once more to make sure
[18:19] <LjL> azlon: you seem alright really
[18:19] <azlon> thx, bye
[19:47] <Myrtti> grrrrrrrrrRRRRR
[19:50] <jpds> ...eat?
[19:51] <Seeker`> heya
[19:52] <Pici> ains
[19:52]  * Myrtti has been a good girl and did her annual fire alarm operation test
[19:53] <Myrtti> http://www.flickr.com/photos/myrtti/3346788305/
[19:54] <jpds> cake
[20:02] <Seeker`> Myrtti: om nom nom
[20:03] <genii> Pancakes?
[20:03] <Myrtti> oh for fucks sake
[20:04] <Myrtti> tonight is just getting better
[20:04] <Seeker`> Myrtti: ?
[20:05] <Myrtti> my home server just rebooted.
[20:05] <Myrtti> it's headless.
[20:05] <Myrtti> and encrypted.
[20:06] <Seeker`> fnu
[20:06] <Myrtti> and I don't have a keyboard
[20:06] <Myrtti> >__________<
[20:06] <Myrtti> HO                          HUM
[20:06] <Myrtti> and I can't remember my work jabber password
[20:07] <Myrtti> HOOOOO       HUMMMM
[20:07] <Pici> :/
[20:07] <Seeker`> Myrtti: I have a keyboard you could borrow... :/
[20:09] <Myrtti> as my mother would say...
[20:09] <Myrtti> että näin.
[20:09] <Seeker`> meaning?
[20:09] <Myrtti> so here.
[20:40] <LjL> my mother would say worse...
[20:41] <LjL> anyway, i'll say fuck.
[20:41] <LjL> i almost got strangled by a bit of misswallowed orange juice
[20:41] <LjL> i'm still feeling agitated
[20:43] <LjL> it's the fault of a damn caged monkey that the news report said stores stones to throw at visitors
[20:43] <LjL> it got me to chuckle while i was drinking :|
[20:43] <LjL> then i stopped breathing.
[20:44] <genii> I think I also would want to hurt people if all they did was let me collect stones and be stared at in a cage
[20:44] <LjL> i agree with that
[20:45] <LjL> but nonetheless i'll throw a stone at that monkey if i ever get to meet him
[20:45] <LjL> anyway they gave that as an example of premeditation in animals
[20:53]  * genii puts on a pot of coffee before /away
[21:20] <Seeker`> LjL: does that mean that we have evidence that trolls in the channels may be capable of premeditating what they are doing?
[21:33] <LjL> Seeker`: uhm well, i think that was about certain superior animals like primate
[21:33] <LjL> i wouldn't extend it to lower species
[21:38] <Seeker`> ah, ok
[21:39] <Seeker`> but trolls do have some similarities to monkies
[21:39] <Seeker`> they are good at flinging faeces
[21:39] <LjL> Seeker`: well, strange similarities and strange differences do show up everywhere
[21:39] <LjL> for instance, some monKEYs can spell
[21:41] <Seeker`> some can use the caps lock/shift key properly too
[21:42] <LjL> some realize that since bold can't be used for emphasis on an ASCII based protocol, alternative means must be devised
[21:43] <Seeker`> some may also realise that I can get subtle hints without needless emphasis :P
[21:43] <LjL> Seeker`: some may, but then some may not be so sure about that
[21:43] <LjL> (i remember the old times when i'd never correct someone's spelling on the internet because it was considered rude as one of the basic rules of netiquette...)
[21:44] <LjL> (i stopped caring long ago)
[21:44] <Seeker`> also, people using a decent client see bolded text when the text is surrounded by *asterisk* characters
[21:44] <LjL> no, people using a decent client see the asterisks. also considering they may, depending on context, just be asterisks. like in a bash globbing pattern.
[21:44] <LjL> people using a client that dumbs things down for you, i guess, see bold.
[21:45] <Seeker`> the best client shows the asterisks and makes the text between them bold
[21:45] <LjL> that boldly goes where no client has gone before.
[21:46] <Seeker`> quite possibly, but I'm a programmer not a historian
[21:46] <LjL> Seeker`: same excuse that Amaranth used for apparently never having realized that PC pixels are usually square.
[21:46] <LjL> meh.
[21:47] <Seeker`> :/
[22:43] <LjL> didn't we have a hardware support info site in the form of a proper database since lately?
[22:43] <ikonia> !hcl
[22:44] <ikonia> bit out dated
[22:45] <LjL> ikonia: i know about that one - but i meant an actual DB not some wikis here and there. i thought there was something at least in progress
[22:47] <ikonia> there was the hardware submission service that the results never got made public on 
[22:50] <LjL> ikonia: you're probably thinking of http://hwdb.ubuntu.com/ and i was probably thinking of that too
[22:50] <LjL> ikonia: there's also http://www.ubuntuhcl.org/ that looks more useful (but not what i was thinking about). courtesy of -doc
[23:11]  * jussi01 goes to bed... nini all
[23:11] <Seeker`> nini
[23:11] <Myrtti> nini
[23:13] <jussi01> have fun with offtopic :P
[23:28] <TheUnderTaker> am i banned from all ubuntu related rooms?
[23:33] <LjL> TheUnderTaker: well yes
[23:33] <LjL> although
[23:33] <LjL> i've thought a little about you today
[23:33] <LjL> i'll speak clearly
[23:34] <LjL> i don't know why you behaved like such a troll
[23:34] <LjL> whether you find it fun, were bored, or are a borderline psychopath
[23:34] <LjL> i don't really even care
[23:34] <LjL> i do know, however, that you know how to change your idents and nicknames
[23:34] <LjL> and you've got an almost unlimited reserve of hostnames from comcast
[23:35] <LjL> so really, you could get in at any time
[23:35] <TheUnderTaker> ok, whats your point in this?
[23:35] <LjL> how's about you do get in, *register* your nickname, keep using that one, and then behave like a normal person?
[23:35] <TheUnderTaker> i have been lately
[23:36] <LjL> you do know the guidelines and all the ubotu relevant factoids by now?
[23:36] <TheUnderTaker> yeah
[23:36] <LjL> so consider yourself unbanned for now (you shouldn't have an actual ban on you to begin with)
[23:36] <LjL> i hope you'll show you deserve it
[23:37] <TheUnderTaker> i dont have an unban
[23:37] <TheUnderTaker> a ban i mean
[23:37] <LjL> right, because you changed just about all could be changed about your identity
[23:37] <LjL> so, just join what you want to join
[23:37] <TheUnderTaker> thanks
[23:37] <LjL> keep in mind i won't pretend i don't see even the slightest bannable offence, though
[23:38] <TheUnderTaker> alright
[23:38] <LjL> have fun
[23:38] <LjL> and let it be fun for the rest of us too
[23:38] <TheUnderTaker> ok cya
[23:38] <LjL> freedom ends...
[23:39] <LjL> when the freedom of your neighbor begins.
[23:39] <LjL> but he ought to know that.
[23:39] <LjL> @mark #ubuntu-ops theundertaker This is "john_nel", unbanned.
[23:52] <JanC> hm, some person posting porn? links in #ubuntu-devel ...
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[23:54] <LjL> JanC: not an op there
[23:55] <LjL> might want to ping mneptok i s'pose, if he deserves a good, err.
[23:55] <LjL> banning. let's say banning.
[23:57] <Nafallo> LjL: chanserv says mdz, Keybuk and cjwatson...
[23:58] <LjL> Nafallo: i can read what chanserv says kthx :P
[23:58] <Nafallo> I fail.. that's "founder" :-P
[23:58]  * Nafallo headdesks
[23:59] <Nafallo> oh well. at least I now know it's possible to have more than one founder :-D
[23:59] <LjL> Nafallo: it's been since the new services went into operation