[07:41] <n0s0r0g> persia, About wifi-toggle key on asus eeepc. Error while installing patched kernel - "Failed to symbolic link /boot/initrd.img-2.6.28-8-generic to initrd.img.". No /boot/initrd*. What I need to do?
[07:45] <persia> n0s0r0g, Do you have a /boot/initrd.img-2.6.28-8-generic ?
[07:46] <n0s0r0g> No.
[07:46] <persia> Hrm.
[07:47] <persia> Do you have any initrd in /boot as a result of the failed installation?
[07:47] <n0s0r0g> No.
[07:48] <n0s0r0g> Dpkg return something like this: "update-initramfs is disabled on LiveCD" before error.
[07:48] <persia> Ah.  That's it.
[07:49] <persia> It used to not be disabled, but it was confusing because one had to copy stuff manually.
[07:49] <persia> Apparently disabling it broke that behaviour.  There was a new patch to casper to undisable it in certain situations yesterday.
[07:49] <persia> I'll recommend trying again with the Alpha-6 images.
[07:51] <n0s0r0g> Ok, thanks. I'll try alpha6.
[08:52] <ara> morning all :)
[08:52] <ara> morning davmor2! aren't you around?
[08:52] <davmor2> Morning
[08:53] <davmor2> ara: Yes I'm here I was just trying to sort out my email :)
[08:54] <davmor2> evo decided to lock up and not play
[08:55] <davmor2> ara: No back at home only there last night :)
[08:55] <davmor2> slangasek: you still about
[09:18] <nags> mvo, I still notice this bug in Ubuntu 9.04 http://pastebin.com/d511706be
[09:20] <mvo> nags: I remember we talked about it some days ago, what was dokos opinion about it?
[09:22] <nags> mvo, dokos just say, somebody packaged it without testing it
[09:22] <nags> mvo, its really annoying me, when installing / updating the package
[09:23] <mvo> nags: I can fix it, could you please push the diff to debian then?
[09:23] <nags> mvo, oops not sure, how to do that :D
[09:24] <nags> mvo, currently in Ubuntu QA Sprint, UK, with me ara and other team members are here, can I speak with some one here ?
[09:25] <mvo> nags: heh :) sure, it should be easy, just ask around, I'm sure someone did it before
[09:25] <mvo> nags: testing the fix now
[09:25] <davmor2> Morning Chris Gregan how's the head
[09:47] <nags> mvo, sorry got disconnected
[09:47] <nags> mvo, was there any update for me ?
[10:05] <mvo> nags: no, just that its a harder problem than initiially thought, there is at least a nasty bug in python-central involved as well
[10:05] <nags> mvo, oops :)
[10:05] <nags> mvo, will wait then
[10:14] <mvo> nags: bug #341014
[10:14] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 341014 in python-central "package with no "Python-Version" cause havoc" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/341014
[10:15] <nags> mvo, cool thanks, let me add myself to the bug :)
[10:17] <mvo> nags: the problem is with this bug even a fixed python-ropemacs will not help because python-central will not allow install/remove/upgrade of the installed package :/
[10:17] <mvo> that needs to be fixed first
[10:17] <nags> mvo, ok
[10:24]  * ara thinks that mvo is lobbying *again* for a python-central policy change :)
[10:27] <mvo> my last one did not quite went the way I wanted it :)
[10:27] <mvo> still not KISS enough for my taste
[12:22] <davmor2> lool: don't forget to have a look at the shutdown menu on unr :)
[12:34] <lool> davmor2: Ah the netbook is in my room ATM
[13:23] <ara> nags, eeejay: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Automation/OxfordSprint2009/Runner-Spec to track the ldtprunnerbyebye evolution
[13:24] <eeejay> ara, thanks :)
[13:28] <nags> ara, cool
[13:28]  * nags checking
[13:28] <ara> nags: it does not have much right now :D
[13:29] <nags> ara, :)
[16:42] <slangasek> davmor2: candidate images for alpha-6 are up generally, though kubuntu/xubuntu are going to get rerolled to ditch a dep on a package that's not supposed to be on any of our CDs
[16:43] <davmor2> slangasek: no probs.  I've done all the netboot that we cover I'm just working through the Ubuntu desktop at the moment, then I'll move onto alternate
[16:44] <slangasek> sounds good
[16:47] <davmor2> slangasek: trying for a complete coverage being that it is the end of the alphas.
[16:47] <davmor2> might skip lvm due to races issue that cjwatson has hopefully fixed
[16:48] <slangasek> mm, skipping lvm is precisely the wrong thing to do under the circumstances, we need the extra testing to see if this is fixed
[16:48] <cjwatson> even with the old images, LVM will be fine as long as it isn't what's currently on the disk
[16:48] <igascream> have some problems with ati drivers .... blinking white strips in the right side of screen .Is it a known bug?
[16:48] <cjwatson> with a reroll, I *would* like to know if it's gone away
[16:48] <cjwatson> slangasek: provided that the new images will have partman-lvm 65ubuntu2
[16:49] <slangasek> cjwatson: ah, the weather report doesn't give me out-of-date udebs, doh
[16:50] <charlie-tca> so it isn't just me that got an error on installing from xubuntu alternate.
[16:51] <cjwatson> charlie-tca: what error, what situation?
[16:51] <slangasek> libxine wants libavcodec2, which of course isn't on the CD
[16:51] <slangasek> Riddell fixed, am respinning
[16:51] <charlie-tca> DEBUG: resolver (libnewt0.52): package doesn't exist (ignored)
[16:51] <charlie-tca> DEBUG: resolver (ext2-modules): package doesn't exist (ignored)
[16:51] <charlie-tca> DEBUG: resolver (efi-modules): package doesn't exist (ignored)
[16:52] <charlie-tca> It may have been my internet, too. It appears to have failed to download all the packages
[16:52] <slangasek> none of those messages are errors
[16:53] <charlie-tca> eeejay:
[16:53] <charlie-tca> Mar 11 14:58:34 in-target: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
[16:53] <slangasek> they all say 'debug' and 'ignored' :)
[16:53] <charlie-tca> Mar 11 14:58:34 in-target: tasksel: aptitude failed (100)
[16:53] <eeejay> charlie-tca: you are welcome :)
[16:54] <charlie-tca> Thanks
[16:54] <charlie-tca> Read the stupid log wrong
[16:55] <charlie-tca> I think the "Unable to fetch som archives" must be me, not the image
[16:55] <slangasek> it's probably the xine-lib issue I just outlined
[16:55] <charlie-tca> Okay. I will run everything again after the respin.
[16:56] <charlie-tca> and this thing, too
[16:56] <charlie-tca> Mar 11 14:58:34 in-target: Failed to fetch cdrom:[Xubuntu 9.04 _Jaunty Jackalope_ - Alpha i386 (20090311.1)]/pool/main/x/x11-xkb-utils/x11-xkb-utils_7.4+1_i386.deb  Hash Sum mismatch
[16:56] <slangasek> hrm
[16:57] <slangasek> that sounds more like a bad CD burn
[16:57] <charlie-tca> passes md5sum and cd integrity check
[16:57] <charlie-tca> running again to find out, though
[16:57] <charlie-tca> worst part for me. It worked in VirtualBox, but gave me this on hardware
[16:59] <charlie-tca> anyway, no bugs reported yet.
[17:03] <davmor2> slangasek, cjwatson: It's not actually installing lvm that's the issue it's the pain you have to go through to remove so you can do other test so I might just leave them till last rather than not do them if that makes sense
[17:03] <slangasek> davmor2: well, cjwatson clarified that the fix he provided is not on the current CDs
[17:04] <slangasek> but then, I guess the problem is installing over LVM, so leaving those till last seems to make sense still, yeah
[17:04] <slangasek> xubuntu alternate is up again
[17:05] <davmor2> charlie-tca: ^
[17:06] <charlie-tca> thanks!
[17:06] <charlie-tca> I'll grab and test
[17:08] <slangasek> mm, the xine-lib change didn't actually work though
[17:08] <davmor2> :(
[17:08] <slangasek> digging into the logs, then
[17:13] <davmor2> slangasek: What's up with unr 0/0 on the tracker ?
[17:13] <slangasek> partial db changes
[17:14] <slangasek> we'll use the 'UMPC' to track testing of UNR again for this round
[17:14] <davmor2> slangasek: np's just checking :)
[17:16] <slangasek> ah; xfmedia has a Recommends: libxine1-ffmpeg that has to go away
[17:36] <slangasek> kubuntu alternate is up
[17:36] <slangasek> xubuntu still being sorted
[17:47] <davmor2> sbeattie: just a quick note on dl-ubuntu-test-iso there a note about not needing --only.  This is useful for times like now where kubuntu has had to be respun but the rest remain the same.  It's saves all the checks :)
[17:49] <sbeattie> davmor2: I appear to be comprehension-challenged this morning, you're looking for something that skips the md5sum checks except for ones that got updated?
[17:53] <davmor2> sbeattie:  No.  Currently if you need to download one specific set of cd because of a re-spin.  You can run the entire script or just run dl-ubuntu-test-iso --only kubuntu which just grabs the iso's that have changed.  The rest of the time however you want to download all the iso's
[17:53] <davmor2> so I'm asking that --only not be removed from the script it is of use :)
[17:54] <sbeattie> davmor2: Ah, got it! and lo, I am enlightened.
[17:55] <slangasek> kubuntu desktop up
[17:56] <sbeattie> davmor2: is --exclude useful for similar raisins?
[17:56] <davmor2> sbeattie: Yes that's more for everything has changed except for X
[17:57] <davmor2> that or you don't want the hassle of the dvd's
[17:58] <sbeattie> davmor2: the completist in me wonders if more only|exclude options would be useful; e.g. --only-variant or --exclude-variant dvd
[18:02] <davmor2> sbeattie: it would be good if it could be more specific as long as the command doesn't become so long it's quicker to dl all the images than type in the command :)
[19:20] <slangasek> charlie-tca: ok, xubuntu alternate really up now
[19:20] <charlie-tca> Thanks. I'll get it again, then
[19:25] <davmor2> slangasek: Sweet :)
[19:26] <davmor2> slangasek: Is that everything back up now then?
[19:27] <slangasek> no, xubuntu desktop and kde dvd are still rebuilding
[19:27] <davmor2> :(
[19:27] <davmor2> ubuntu desktop done :)
[19:28] <davmor2> I don't think all the red bugs are necessary though  I think someone aught to explain that red is for show stoppers
[19:59] <davmor2> mahahaha Evilness.  I'm testing lvm then I'll use rescue to wipe the partition table ready for the next test :)
[20:02] <davmor2> slangasek: can you get on the tracker?
[20:02] <davmor2> it's alright it's back up
[21:17] <slangasek> xubuntu desktop, kubuntu dvd up
[21:18] <charlie-tca> Thank you.
[21:18] <davmor2> slangasek: should freesoftware only offer nvidia drivers in jockey?
[21:18] <davmor2> do you know
[21:18] <slangasek> I have no idea
[21:19] <davmor2> I'd of thought it wasn't free software
[21:27] <slangasek> jockey is free software.
[21:28] <davmor2> slangasek: Jockey is but the Nvidia binary blob it wants to install isn't :)
[21:28] <slangasek> that's correct
[21:28] <slangasek> but I don't know what the "free software only" option is or isn't promised to do
[21:29] <davmor2> It's never shown up in there before so unless there was a policy change
[21:30] <davmor2> that's what I'm trying to find out whether it should be offered or not :) I'll bug seb128 and pitti about it tomorrow for now I've just left a note about it
[21:37] <lordnoid> Hi I have no sound in flash (swfdec or proprietary doesn't matter)..
[21:37] <lordnoid> in Jaunty alpha 56
[21:37] <lordnoid> 5
[21:39] <lordnoid> oh and im on 64-bit.. could that be it?
[21:40] <davmor2> lordnoid: no Cause I have audio in flash.
[21:40] <lordnoid> oh ok
[21:41] <davmor2> you might be better off asking on #ubuntu+1 though
[21:41] <lordnoid> ah okay
[21:52] <davmor2> stgraber: Good news ltsp seems to be building testing it shortly
[22:32] <davmor2> stgraber: ping
[22:38] <davmor2> stgraber: when you get this why does the default amd64 image point to /opt/ltsp/i386 ?
[22:57] <slangasek> davmor2: have you run into bug #341086?
[22:57] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 341086 in update-manager "update manager closes unexpectedly" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/341086
[22:57] <slangasek> which I think is the same as bug #340828
[22:57] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 340828 in update-manager "update-manager crashed with AttributeError in checkFreeSpace()" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/340828
[22:58] <slangasek> a regression introduced in update-manager during the milestone freeze, grr
[22:58] <davmor2> slangasek: not on the oems I did earlier
[22:58] <slangasek> so update-manager Just Worked?
[22:58] <davmor2> slangasek: that's the same bug he reported in alpha 5
[22:59] <slangasek> hmm?
[22:59] <slangasek> 341086 was reported 9 hours ago
[22:59] <davmor2> slangasek: I'm not sure if it's a wifi thing
[22:59] <slangasek> no, this is an update-manager bug, that has nothing to do with wifi?
[23:00] <davmor2> slangasek: I'm sure there was one very similar in alpha 5 that the same tester reported unless I'm going mad
[23:00] <davmor2> n-m has worked fine for me
[23:00] <slangasek> this has nothing to do with network-manager!
[23:00] <davmor2> on netboot, alt and live
[23:00] <slangasek> *update*-manager
[23:01] <davmor2> sorry
[23:01] <davmor2> try again
[23:01] <davmor2> tired now just running u-m now
[23:06] <davmor2> meh forgot I've just bork eth connection for ltsp test.  2 secs I'll just fire up my laptop
[23:09] <davmor2> slangasek: right my laptop is a couple of days behind so about 5 minutes I'll ping you and let you know
[23:10] <slangasek> ...ok. :)
[23:20] <davmor2> slangasek: crashes
[23:20] <slangasek> ok
[23:24] <davmor2> slangasek: packages to be installed update-manager and update-manager-core I'm guessing they fix the issue I can install them and check if you'd like?
[23:24] <slangasek> it's already been confirmed that upgrading fixes it
[23:24] <slangasek> I was just needed a check on how reproducible the crash was
[23:24] <slangasek> s/was //
[23:25] <davmor2> slangasek: I've just finish burning a live cd I'll fire it up 2 ticks
[23:27] <davmor2> slangasek: yeap.  crashes on live cd too
[23:27] <slangasek> ok, I'm going to respin images for that
[23:28] <davmor2> slangasek:  :(
[23:28] <davmor2> :'(
[23:29] <slangasek> having CDs which install a system that users can't easily upgrade out of is a problem
[23:30] <davmor2> is that going to affect everything?  Or just ubuntu
[23:30] <slangasek> anything with the broken version of update-manager on it
[23:30] <slangasek> xubuntu and kubuntu already rerolled, so should be fine
[23:30] <davmor2> slangasek: so did xubuntu and kubuntu get the update in the respin?
[23:31] <slangasek> yes
[23:31] <davmor2> I'm going to go to bed now and sleep and start again in the morning
[23:32] <slangasek> affected are ubuntustudio, ubuntu-server, and ubuntu desktop/alternate, from what I see
[23:32] <slangasek> ok
[23:32] <slangasek> g'night then :)
[23:32] <davmor2> night
[23:32] <slangasek> also mythbuntu, MID, and UNR
[23:33]  * slangasek sighs
[23:33] <davmor2> spin ubuntu first then please, I can start straight away in the morning my server will dl them for me :)
[23:48] <mathiaz> slangasek: can you add a new test case to the Ubuntu Server iso in the QA tracker?
[23:48] <mathiaz> slangasek: I've created http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/Install/ServerRAID1 to cover RAID1 installs
[23:48] <slangasek> mathiaz: not in a timely fashion
[23:49] <slangasek> I have to reverse-engineer that bit of the database from the schema, submit SQL in an RT, and wait for IS :)
[23:49] <mathiaz> slangasek: ok. It can wait for after alpha6.