[00:00] <polter> ActionParsnip: I know
[00:00] <polter> Titan8990: I know
[00:00] <usr13> kadii: Have you altered /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[00:00] <kadii> usr13, no
[00:00] <polter> and sda1 is mounted in /cdrom and can't be unmounted because it's being used, and I have no idea why
[00:00] <Titan8990> polter, are you not listening?
[00:00] <Titan8990> polter, pastebin: sudo mount
[00:00] <polter> Titan8990: I am
[00:01] <usr13> kadii: Pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list
[00:01] <polter> Titan8990: sudo mount what?
[00:01] <ActionParsnip> polter: lsof | grep /dev/sda1
[00:01] <Titan8990> polter, open the terminal, type:   sudo mount
[00:01] <bonez451> what is lacking.. with linux and SATA?
[00:01] <kadii> usr13, http://pastebin.com/m7c010ef7
[00:01] <ActionParsnip> polter: lsof | grep cdrom
[00:01] <Titan8990> polter, go ahead and pastebin the results of ActionParsnip's command as well
[00:01] <smokinjoe> Can anyone tell me a command to get my screen sizes?
[00:02] <schnootop> what is the easiest way to see if you have the 32bit or 64bit installed?
[00:02] <polter> sudo mount http://pastebin.com/m7d8db42a
[00:02] <ActionParsnip> Titan8990: ;)
[00:02] <chupy> Titan8990 http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m5fd1bd2d
[00:02] <rww> schnootop: run "uname -a" in a terminal. If the output includes "x86_64", you have 64-bit installed.
[00:03] <polter> lsof | grep cdrom http://pastebin.com/m32f33163
[00:03] <Tronic> Where should the USER environment variable be set?
[00:03] <dragoncorp> anyone know if u need 2 dedicated ip's on a vps to host a website?
[00:03] <Tronic> Mine is missing.
[00:03] <smokinjoe> Screen size?
[00:03] <ActionParsnip> polter: you are logged in as root (you shouldnt be) so yoou dont need sudo
[00:03] <Titan8990> dragoncorp, vhosts in apache are sorted by the url, no need for multiple IPs
[00:03] <vigo> smokinjoe: I think that is in the xorg config
[00:03] <Tronic> $HOME is set correctly, though.
[00:04] <smokinjoe> Ahh
[00:04] <smokinjoe> Think you might be right
[00:04] <smokinjoe> Thanks
[00:04] <dragoncorp> Titan8990, can you explain in private message how to set this up with ubuntu and godaddy?
[00:04] <polter> ActionParsnip: I logged in as root because I don't really enjoy sudo
[00:04] <ActionParsnip> polter: why you are logged in as root iis anyones guess. its unnecessary and unneeded
[00:04] <Titan8990> dragoncorp, uhh, no
[00:04] <ActionParsnip> polter: it has seriously crippled your security
[00:04] <Titan8990> dragoncorp, that would be half a degree in network administration
[00:04] <polter> ActionParsnip: I know about root and security issues
[00:04] <usr13> kadii: Did you have any luck with "dpkg-reconfigure -plow"
[00:05] <usr13> ?
[00:05] <ActionParsnip> polter: if you are logged in as root you dont need to use sudo
[00:05] <polter> I know
[00:05] <TuxOtaku> hey, has anyone here had gnome-settings-daemon randomly keep crashing the last couple days?
[00:05] <polter> I'm still in between suse and ubuntu so out of habit I used both
[00:05] <kadii> usr13, no when i do it give me /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: please specify a package to reconfigure
[00:05] <ActionParsnip> polter: well if you logged in as root and launched an irc client, you clearly dont
[00:05] <sunapi386> * ARCKEDA has quit (Remote closed the connection)
 thats it really, nothing
[00:05] <fosco__> polter, take a look at your fstab file, is sda1 set tobemounted on /cdrom?
[00:05] <_Whipper__> *huoh* again with root in ub..
[00:05] <sunapi386> recently i lost the use of my alarm clock because of water damage; does anyone use something like "cat /dev/urandom to pcspkr " and set it up to go off at 7am?
[00:05] <polter> ActionParsnip: I'm not logged in as root in GDM
[00:05] <kadii> usr13, when i dpkg-reconfigure exmin4
[00:05] <kadii>  give me it's not install
[00:05] <polter> I did a "sudo su"
[00:06] <polter> in terminal.. irc is in user
[00:06] <kadii> usr13, when i try to install it give me error
[00:06] <usr13> kadii: Must have been Sendmail of some of it's dependencies, so..
[00:06] <bruce89> sudo -s
[00:06] <DIFH-iceroot> polter: sudo su is wrong
[00:06] <ActionParsnip> polter: you shouldnt use sudo su either
[00:06] <DIFH-iceroot> polter: environment
[00:06] <Rabbitbunny> sunapi386: no, but I've launched a mp3 via cron.
[00:06] <vigo> ActionParsnip: What is the command or keystroke to drop sudo or root when I want, example, I got the package, now I do not need root, I may want to use gksudo? or is that just being silly.
[00:06] <ActionParsnip> polter: sudo -i   sets up the environment correctly
[00:06] <usr13> kadii: what does apt-get -f install exmin4 say?
[00:06] <marsh> anyone using clonezilla and able to walk me through...
[00:06] <polter> ActionParsnip: ok, now about my problem.. there's nothing weird in fstab as far as I can see
[00:07] <kadii> usr13,  Couldn't find package exmin4
[00:07] <ActionParsnip> polter: the fact that you ae running commands with sudo as root implies you are ignorant of what root and sudo actually are
[00:07] <tc111> here's what i want to do with what i have thrown in... 1 - server, 5 - nics (1-1Gb, 4-100Mb). server runs a firewall in a VM. i want to bond/aggregate/trunk (over non- 802.3ad switches) using kernel bonding (mode 6) and ifenslave on eth1-eth3. the host will not assign an address or even see the traffic as bond0 (eth1-3) will be assigned to the VM firewall for WAN access. eth0 (1Gb) is LAN for firewall VM and eth4 is lan for server (8.04.2 - i386, 2GB ram, 2x20
[00:07] <sunapi386> Rabbitbunny; how did you set it to launch at 7am?
[00:07] <polter> ActionParsnip: I told you. I haven't yet adjusted to being on Ubuntu again after running suse for a long while.
[00:08] <_Whipper__> polter: u DONT need root in ub
[00:08] <Rabbitbunny> sunapi386: man cron manual will help you more that I can.
[00:08] <ActionParsnip> polter: fine but if your system gets hacked / broken..you were warned. There is a billion reasons why root is disabled and sudo is used in ubuntu
[00:08] <_Whipper__> root isnt so complex term to unerstand
[00:09] <ActionParsnip> polter: any way
[00:09] <polter> I closed my terminal so there's no root anywhere now, so everyone can be happy
[00:09] <ActionParsnip> _Whipper__: if its disable there is zero chance to guess the password
[00:09] <usr13> kadii: exim4
[00:09] <felixsulla> What is the best way on Ubuntu 8.10 to upgrade from OpenOff 2.4 to 3.0?
[00:09] <usr13> kadii: typo
[00:09] <sebsebseb> felixsulla: the Ubuntu version is not offical, but it is up to date in many wyas
[00:09] <HeXiLeD> all of a sudden a mounted hd says that it is read only when it was never ro and fstab still is what it always was. any ideas for this ?
[00:09] <vigo> Oh Thank you ActionParsnip: My question was answered with that other reply.
[00:10] <nellmathew> hey guys, i needed to create a partition and install windows for work purposes - i recreated a GRUB using the LiveCD, but it didn't automatically add my windows partition. I know HOW to add windows (menu.lst), but for "root" how do i figure out which partition # windows is on? (ex: (hd0,#).. anyone know?
[00:10] <ActionParsnip> polter: lsof will show all open files and apps on all partitions
[00:10] <kadii> usr13, sorry, didn't got you!
[00:10] <_Whipper__> action: point?
[00:10] <sebsebseb> felixsulla: there's a reason why it's not 3.0, but even so it is up to date in many ways
[00:10] <kadii> usr13, what about exmin4 ?
[00:10] <felixsulla> sebsebseb: The Ubuntu version of OO isnt up to date you mean?
[00:10] <kadii> exim*
[00:10] <ActionParsnip> _Whipper__: so its more secure as ALL systems have a root account
[00:10] <sebsebseb> !openoffice
[00:10] <usr13> kadii: apt-get -f install exim4
[00:10] <felixsulla> sebsebseb: Why would it be an older version on Ubuntu? Is it up to date on other distro's?
[00:10] <tc111> felixsulla: add the repositories for openoffice from launchpad's ppa (google it, it'll be there)
[00:11] <sebsebseb> felixsulla: ok nevermind about what I said and get the ppa for version 3 if  you want it
[00:11] <ActionParsnip> _Whipper__: so its a logical first point of contact
[00:11] <usr13> kadii: it's exim4 not exmin4  Spelling error / typo
[00:11] <_jet__> hi, how can I know all the packages I installed by aptitude ?
[00:11] <polter> will the nomount boot option work for me?
[00:11] <_Whipper__> action: yes..?
[00:11] <ActionParsnip> _Whipper__: you can tab complete names too
[00:11] <felixsulla> tc111: Is that "official"?
[00:11] <racecar56> would it be safe to install hardy gcc-3.4 packages on intrepid?
[00:11] <polter> I'll try it
[00:11] <vigo> _jet_: Just hilight them and press Enter
[00:12] <sebsebseb> felixsulla: the ppa is fine
[00:12] <nellmathew> how do i find out which partition # windows is on? to add to grub: EX. (hd0, #)?...
[00:12] <kadii> usr13,  http://pastebin.com/m671fe04e
[00:12] <bruce89> !tab | _Whipper__
[00:12] <_jet__> vigo: what do you mean ? I'm in the terminal...
[00:12] <tacosarecool> is there a easy way to burn lyrics with the song?
[00:12] <sebsebseb> felixsulla: Ubuntu only does security updates  in each release, newer versions of programs in the next release, but then there are also ppa's so people can get later stuff
[00:12] <vigo> _jet_: In aptitude terminal?
[00:12] <ActionParsnip> _Whipper__: its default in the install for a reason, in fact many so users dont use it. if you want to circumvent a great idea then fine. It one of the reasones windows has so many issues
[00:13] <ActionParsnip> _Whipper__: as the default user model is admin
[00:13] <_Whipper__> action: vant see the point here now.. Deabian & the others have root tsydems, but u dont need'em in ub
[00:13] <racecar56> bruce89, thanks that tab trick is cool, never heard of it
[00:13] <racecar56> :>
[00:13] <_jet__> vigo: that's all I know about aptitude....
[00:13] <ActionParsnip> _Whipper__: again, tab complete my name
[00:13] <usr13> kadii:  apt-get autoremove procmail sensible-mda
[00:13] <racecar56> would it be safe to install hardy gcc-3.4 packages on intrepid?
[00:13] <bruce89> no
[00:13] <ActionParsnip> _Whipper__: its not needed in any distro
[00:13] <tacosarecool> racecar it should
[00:13] <vigo> _jet_: since you know aptitude, type aptitude, a new terminal opens up
[00:14] <tacosarecool> I've installed hardy things in intrepid
[00:14] <bruce89> racecar56: not really, but why?
[00:14] <_Whipper__> action: i dont use tab, lame..
[00:14] <racecar56> bruce89, it's because they took it out of intrepid
[00:14] <ActionParsnip> _Whipper__: they just choose to enable it, ubuntu is made for the masses, linux used to be for the nerdy but now its for the masses so ubuntu protects its flock
[00:14] <lstarnes> racecar56: as a general rule, packages for one version of ubuntu are unsafe on other versions
[00:14] <kadii> usr13, http://pastebin.com/m7b0073d4
[00:14] <bruce89> racecar56: I meant, why do you need 3.4?
[00:14] <ActionParsnip> _Whipper__: see how you name highlights when i address you, thats not an acident
[00:15] <racecar56> bruce89, it's because something i got to compile won't work on 4.x, it's very old
[00:15] <ActionParsnip> _Whipper__: any additional comments, unless addressed to me will be ignored
[00:15] <tacosarecool> Is there a way to burn lyrics
[00:15] <tacosarecool> I know it converts
[00:15] <darkfile> burn lyrics?
[00:15] <racecar56> ?
[00:15] <_Whipper__> action: u think i never ircd bfore?-)
[00:15] <tacosarecool> But then it doesn't burn the lyrics of the song
[00:15] <bruce89> !info gcc-3.4
[00:15] <darkfile> burn lyrics from nirvana?
[00:15] <onats1> is there another browser i can use other than firefox, which consumes less memory?
[00:15] <ActionParsnip> onats1: opera
[00:15] <racecar56> what the............
[00:15] <tacosarecool> no the lyrics in the file
[00:15] <darkfile> cockfox
[00:15] <Rabbitbunny> onats1: opera. xubuntu.
[00:15] <tacosarecool> I mean
[00:16] <usr13> kadii: apt-get -f install
[00:16] <tacosarecool> the mp3 with the lyrics on it
[00:16] <tacosarecool> or whatever
[00:16] <_jet__> vigo: sorry, I never started aptitude like that, thanks
[00:16] <ActionParsnip> !opera | onats1
[00:16] <darkfile> you can try apt-get install lynx
[00:16] <tacosarecool> but it converts to cd audio
[00:16] <darkfile> and then you browse with lynx
[00:16] <bruce89> !info gcc-3.4 > racecar56
[00:16] <darkfile> lynx will take much less memory than firefox
[00:16] <onats1> lynx is command line
[00:16] <onats1> i need gui
[00:16] <racecar56> oops i mean g++-3.4
[00:16] <Rabbitbunny> onats1: xlinks
[00:16] <darkfile> hm but lynx will consume less memory
[00:16] <ActionParsnip> darkfile: it cant do flash videos and people LURVE the youtube
[00:17] <jmaxxd> good day all
[00:17] <racecar56> bruce89, i meant g++-3.4 sorry
[00:17] <onats> consume less memory AND is GUI
[00:17] <vigo> _jet_: Happy to help.
[00:17] <glitsj16> tacosarecool: you can burn mp3's as data cd, that'll keep the lyrics i guess
[00:17] <ActionParsnip> onats: grab opera, its aesome
[00:17] <tacosarecool> but I want it to work with cd players
[00:17] <ActionParsnip> onats: i use it rather than firefox
[00:17] <darkfile> did you try konqueror from KDE?
[00:17] <bruce89> Epiphany
[00:17] <racecar56> i dont like opera, non-oss sucks
[00:17] <Chousuke> onats: how much memory do you have?
[00:17] <darkfile> for sure you will have all the KDE libs in memory after it *g
[00:17] <ActionParsnip> racecar56: do you use flash plugin?
[00:18] <bruce89> racecar56: ah
[00:18] <racecar56> ActionParsnip, yeah, it works in firefox
[00:18] <_Whipper__> ActionParsnip, : i ve used irc since i got my first pc, soon after i burned my 64, which i deeply regret..
[00:18] <kadii> usr13,  now it give me , upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 59 not upgraded.
[00:18] <tacosarecool> oh
[00:18] <ActionParsnip> racecar56: adobe flash is non OSS
[00:18] <tc111> felixsulla: OpenOffice Unofficial Ubuntu Packages
[00:18] <_jet__> vigo: well, I'm a bit lost... I do I see the packages I choose to install ?
[00:18] <tacosarecool> sudo mv something to something
[00:18] <racecar56> ActionParsnip, i only use it if i _have_ to
[00:18] <tacosarecool> or sudo cp
[00:18] <Scunizi> ActionParsnip: which repo are you using to get opera?
[00:18] <tacosarecool> or gksudo
[00:18] <vigo> onats: Or get . uhm, it begins with a G. is in the package manager thing, is Gecko based and very light weight.
[00:18] <felixsulla> Thank you all.
[00:18] <Dekkard> gksu
[00:18] <bruce89> galeon
[00:19] <Dekkard> galeon
[00:19] <darkfile> try "sudo rm / -rf"  for remove / really fast
[00:19] <darkfile> :)
[00:19] <racecar56> what to do to get g++-3.4 on intrepid
[00:19] <ActionParsnip> racecar56: well why not use gnash, its OSS which adobe flash isnt?
[00:19] <Chousuke> galeon has been replaced by epiphany.
[00:19] <ActionParsnip> _Whipper__: thats great
[00:19] <tc111> felixsulla: i use it on all my machines >10 plus those linux user friends i have, no issues, great packages
[00:19] <usr13> kadii: apt-get install exim4
[00:19] <dean> actually sudo rm -rf / stands for recursive and force
[00:19] <dean> and it doesn't work
[00:19] <onats> chousuke, 8 gigs
[00:19] <bruce89> racecar56: or swfdec
[00:19] <onats> actionparsnip, ok will try it out
[00:19] <Chousuke> onats: ... uh, right?
[00:19] <bruce89> !danger
[00:19] <racecar56> ActionParsnip,  it sucks, i like swfdec better, gnash freezes 99% of time
[00:19] <darkfile> lol
[00:19] <Chousuke> onats: you have 8 Gb of memory and you want to save it?
[00:19] <dean> rm in the latest coreutils refuses to remove /
[00:19] <tehfalcon> rm = remove
[00:19] <Chousuke> onats: what.
[00:19] <darkfile> your bot is cool
[00:19] <felixsulla> tc111: The softpedia PPA you mean?
[00:20] <racecar56> ActionParsnip,  but swfdec dosen't work with some things
[00:20] <ActionParsnip> racecar56: its just an example of when non OSS is ok
[00:20] <onats> chousuke, well its just that when i monitor my processes, its firefox which consumes a lot. close to 700m
[00:20] <ActionParsnip> racecar56: just like opera (imho) is better than firefox
[00:20] <bruce89> ActionParsnip: it's fine the Free Web now needs a non-free thing?
[00:20] <onats> so its pretty heavy
[00:20] <Chousuke> onats: and why does that matter?
[00:20] <tc111> darkfile, dean: what are you doing? deleting your entire linux install?
[00:20] <vigo> _jet_: You might want to use Synaptic Package Manager for that, it is a GUI thing that explains details of everything before it is selected or applied. aptitude sorta does, is still a terminal.
[00:20] <Chousuke> onats: are you running out of memory?
[00:20] <tehfalcon> lawl
[00:20] <ActionParsnip> racecar56: infact i'd say a lot of browsr are better but people are sheep and use firefox
[00:20] <bruce89> ActionParsnip: got the wrong end of the stick, oops
[00:20] <kadii> usr13,  dpkg: error processing exim4 (--configure):   Package exim4-daemon-light is not configured yet.
[00:20] <kadii>  ...
[00:20] <_Whipper__> ActionParsnip, : allthogh  Opera has more security issues.. but hnevö mind..
[00:20] <onats> because i want it to be a running tight ship.
[00:20] <Chousuke> onats: you know, firefox uses memory when it's available so it's FASTER.
[00:20] <kadii> usr13,    Package exim4-base is not configured yet.
[00:21] <jmaxxd> what chat program do I download so I can get my camera to work in chat?
[00:21] <darkfile> kadii, did you try rm -rf / ?
[00:21] <tc111> felixsulla: https://launchpad.net/~openoffice-pkgs/+archive/ppa
[00:21] <ActionParsnip> _Whipper__: depends which is more important to you, ram or security
[00:21] <bruce89> Empathy
[00:21] <dean> darkfile, that command is useless
[00:21] <darkfile> *g
[00:21] <usr13> kadii: dpkg-reconfigure -plow exim4
[00:21] <bruce89> !danger
[00:21] <Chousuke> onats: unless it's using something completely ridiculous (like 700 MB right after launch) or exhibiting otherwise weird behaviour, stop worrying :)
[00:21] <dean> darkfile, if you want to wipe your drive you should use dd
[00:21] <step21_> ActionParsnip: lol .... in terms of memory/stability you overload all browsers. ALL!
[00:21] <racecar56> ActionParsnip, if google chrome was open source + supported addons i'd like it, i have once used chromium (which IS oss, but it dosen't support addons either)
[00:21] <darkfile> heh
[00:21] <darkfile> k
[00:21] <_Whipper__> ActionParsnip, : exactly
[00:21] <kadii> usr13, /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: exim4 is broken or not fully installed
[00:21] <bruce89> racecar56: it is FOSS
[00:21] <onats> chousuke, i see. because sometimes a lot of the programs lock up  (don't load after clicking icons) until i close firefox
[00:22] <bruce89> oops, not Chrom
[00:22] <ActionParsnip> _Whipper__: exactly what?
[00:22] <step21_> racecar56: chromium ~ chrome you know ....
[00:22] <dean> chromium and google chrome are different ?
[00:22] <racecar56> yes
[00:22] <jmaxxd> chrom??
[00:22] <tehfalcon> chrom what?
[00:22] <bruce89> e
[00:22] <Chousuke> onats: well that might be a problem.
[00:22] <jmaxxd> ok...I'll give it a try thanks
[00:22] <racecar56> dean, google chrome is a non-oss version of chromium
[00:22] <usr13> kadii: apt-get -f install exim4-base
[00:22] <_Whipper__> ActionParsnip, : answered your q
[00:22] <step21_> not in terms of functionality
[00:22] <bruce89> ah
[00:22] <darkfile> try dd if="hitler" of=/dev/sda
[00:22] <tehfalcon> ohhh
[00:22] <darkfile> :p
[00:22] <racecar56> lol
[00:22] <onats> chousuke, so it could be memory then right?
[00:22] <Chousuke> onats: unlikely :P
[00:22] <onats> i'm still installing opera
[00:22] <ActionParsnip> _Whipper__: you lost me
[00:22] <Chousuke> onats: unless firefox is going haywire
[00:23] <usr13> kadii: apt-get -f install exim4-deamon-light
[00:23] <Chousuke> onats: which would be a bug in firefox.
[00:23] <bruce89> onats: midori perhaps
[00:23] <racecar56> what to do to get g++-3.4 on intrepid?
[00:23] <Dekkard> maybe he need to limit cache?
[00:23] <Chousuke> onats: but go ahead and try other browsers if you want
[00:23] <onats> chousuke, well it looks like its FF. once i close it, everything that i clicked opend up
[00:23] <Chousuke> onats: epiphany is fine
[00:23] <felixsulla> Speaking of Google Chrome, anyone heard if/when they will finally realease it to Ubuntu?
[00:23] <_Whipper__> ActionParsnip, :if we just leave it here ?-)
[00:23] <Chousuke> felixsulla: after DNF
[00:23] <tehfalcon> can't u just use wine?
[00:23] <_Whipper__> getting abit offtopic
[00:23] <bruce89> Chousuke: indeed, but memory-wise, there's not much difference
[00:23] <racecar56> or am i going to have to get something like ubuntu 5.x/6.06 and attempt to compile
[00:23] <felixsulla> Chousuke: DNF?
[00:23] <Dekkard> currently no :oonix version of chrome at all
[00:23] <ActionParsnip> big firefox bug == if you use kubuntu, installing firefox is 100MMb for a web browser
[00:23] <Chousuke> bruce89: yes.
[00:23] <vigo> onats: Epiphany is a great lightweight browser.
[00:24] <darkfile> felilixsulla i hope NEVER
[00:24] <ActionParsnip> _Whipper__: sounds agreeable
[00:24] <kadii> usr13, about exim4-base same error and exim4-deamon-light give me : E: Couldn't find package exim4-deamon-light
[00:24] <felixsulla> darkfile: Why? Chrome is rad.
[00:24] <Chousuke> felixsulla: duke nukem forever :P
[00:24] <bruce89> Chousuke: but of course, WebKit will fix it
[00:24] <onats> vigo,looking it up
[00:24] <darkfile> chrome is crap
[00:24] <Chousuke> bruce89: right :P
[00:24] <racecar56> vigo, but it dosen't have adblock :P
[00:24] <onats> bruce89, midori?
[00:24] <felixsulla> Chousuke: I dont follow games, I take it DNF was never released..?
[00:24] <racecar56> i like adblock plus
[00:24] <bruce89> onats: WebKit browser
[00:24] <darkfile> it reports to google twice a minute :)
[00:24] <Chousuke> felixsulla: it's been in development for over 10 years now.
[00:24] <step21_> onats: did you have a lot of tabs with flash on them open? that brings many a browser down on linux and os x
[00:24] <yuri_> hi id like to use sshfs and have write options, so far it tells me that there is not enough space but I know that there is
[00:24] <tehfalcon> my perfect firefox setup is: adblock plus+stumbleupon+imagezoom+foxmarks
[00:25] <glitsj16> racecar56: epiphany + privoxy for adblocking works just fine as well
[00:25] <vigo> onats: just go Applications>add-remove, select Internet and look at it.
[00:25] <darkfile> "hey google, felixsulla is just watching a pr0n on 0:43 of 1:43"
[00:25] <darkfile> :p
[00:25] <step21_> they are working on a chromium port ... just look it up
[00:25] <Dekkard> ubiquity
[00:25] <WirmDrink> jHi
[00:25] <bruce89> BTW, epiphany-extensions has adblock
[00:25] <dean> !help
[00:25] <racecar56> step21_, i once had 25 tabs all with running flash + sound on linux and it didn't lag 1 bit
[00:25] <WirmDrink> why is pulseaudio so crap ?
[00:25] <felixsulla> darkfile: Hmm, do you believe you have anonymity if you dont use Chrome? heh.
[00:25] <tehfalcon> oh lawl , i just use google chrome to watch porn while on windows...
[00:25] <racecar56> WirmDrink, because.....
[00:25] <tehfalcon> nothing else
[00:25] <bruce89> !ohmy
[00:25] <ActionParsnip> WirmDrink: no idea, asla flys sweet for me
[00:25] <darkfile> i dont use chrome and i dont use windows, so.... yes?
[00:25] <darkfile> :)
[00:25] <ActionParsnip> *alsa
[00:25] <step21_> racecar56: it doesn't have to, but it can, depends a lot on the specific flash apps i think
[00:25]  * _Whipper__ some beer and burn a "few" light-F***ing-Scribe labels.." >
[00:25] <tehfalcon> no, the incognito mode does pretty much nothing
[00:25] <Chousuke> google is not really being very good about chrome development.
[00:25] <bruce89> !ohmy
[00:26] <Chousuke> it's open source, but it's not very welcoming to non-google developers.
[00:26] <snowveil> so in addition to my mouse getting messed up (double clicking instead of single clicking, sensitivity way up), windows are freezing as well
[00:26] <tehfalcon> it just saves you cleaning cookies and browsing history :)
[00:26] <Chousuke> their SVN repository is full of crap
[00:26] <felixsulla> darkfile: You do have an ISP though?
[00:26] <racecar56> Chousuke, lol
[00:26] <tc111> felixsulla: "Google Chrome for Linux is in development and a team of engineers is working hard to bring it to you as soon as possible." - Google Team
[00:26] <darkfile> hm, sure
[00:26] <ichem> what dose this mean when i watch rmvb film by  TOTEM"Could not decode buffer:214750037"
[00:26] <snowveil> this happened after a reboot
[00:26] <bruce89> !info midori
[00:26] <racecar56> tc111, it shure has been a while
[00:26] <felixsulla> tc111: So right after DNF? heh.
[00:26] <tehfalcon> >>>working hard
[00:26] <xapt> Okay, so I installed vmware server - I even got ubuntu server running, installed apache and php5 and got all that running - but now I wanted to test it and I'm not sure how I can access the web server from the vmware server - Apache is running, but I'm confused as to how the networking is working here.  Anyone have any idea's on how I can get to my vmware server from my host ubuntu's web browser?
[00:26] <tehfalcon> sure.....
[00:26] <ActionParsnip> ichem: get codecs
[00:26] <racecar56> xapt, vbox ftw
[00:26] <ichem> THANKES
[00:26] <darkfile> if i would be paranoid i would surf via proxy
[00:26] <ubuntu__> Is there any way for me to check if my grub config is correct, other than through heaploads of reboots?
[00:26] <kadii> usr13,  i did now remove exim4-base
[00:26] <kadii>  and exim4-config and they got removed
[00:27] <bruce89> !codecs | ichem
[00:27] <felixsulla> Chrome is just so fast compared to Firefox or Opera
[00:27] <step21_> dunno, I compile the os x development parts of chromium that work already and ppl there were very helpful.
[00:27] <tehfalcon> darkfile: use tor
[00:27] <tehfalcon> safer
[00:27] <ActionParsnip> xapt: run ifconfig / ipconfig in the guest, the install should have offered to bridge the connection so you should have an ip from your router
[00:27] <vigo> Is there a replacement driver for that ATI one, it made my screen go all blank.
[00:27] <sebsebseb> Google Chrome uses webkit, and so I guess they have to port that to Linux to?
[00:27] <kadii> usr13,  then i did sudo apt-get autoremove now
[00:27] <bruce89> sebsebseb: already there
[00:27] <step21_> tehfalcon: more paranoid << fix'd
[00:27] <yothere12091> hi all. I have a corrupted installation of 8.10 and need a bit of help getting my stuff off of it. I've tried using the cp command to copy files while having logged in using the installation cd and everytime I tell it to sudo cp the home folder it tells me it's omitting it. Ideas?
[00:27] <tehfalcon> haha
[00:28] <sebsebseb> bruce89: it's already been done?
[00:28] <tehfalcon> you never know who might be watching you....
[00:28] <bruce89> sebsebseb: GNOME 2.28 is set to use WebKit quite a bit
[00:28] <racecar56> yothere12091, use nautilus
[00:28] <tehfalcon> i can feel them on the other end of the line
[00:28] <racecar56> yothere12091, cp sucks
[00:28] <kadii> usr13, should i install exim4 now ?
[00:28] <step21_> tehfalcon: true :)
[00:28] <dean> yothere12091: cp -r
[00:28] <sebsebseb> bruce89: oh yeah Epiphany can be told to use webkit instead of Gecko that's a point
[00:28] <racecar56> kk
[00:28] <yothere12091> racecar56: says I don't have permission
[00:28] <bruce89> sebsebseb: and Qt already has it
[00:28] <tehfalcon> sudo
[00:28] <jmaxxd> \well apperently the google people are every wher
[00:28] <dean> yother1091: run it as root
[00:28] <dean> !sudo
[00:28] <racecar56> yothere12091, sudo nautilus
[00:28] <bruce89> sebsebseb: well, trunk is WebKit-only
[00:28] <racecar56> !su
[00:29] <tehfalcon> !cp
[00:29] <jmaxxd> thanks...have a good day all
[00:29] <WirmDrink> pulseaudio is really crap
[00:29] <sebsebseb> bruce89: you suer you don't mean KTHML?   webkit is based on Khtml  what konqueror uses
[00:29] <WirmDrink> I dont get why its enabled by default
[00:29] <vigo> Epiphany is a great lil browser
[00:29] <bruce89> sebsebseb: nope
[00:29] <racecar56> WirmDrink, you shure are right, and also pwns
[00:29] <felixsulla> Whats the diff between gksu and gksudo?
[00:29] <sebsebseb> vigo: yep  it is and Galeon
[00:29] <bruce89> WirmDrink: blah
[00:29] <racecar56> WirmDrink, *alsa
[00:29] <ActionParsnip> yothere12091: you could use dd_rescue to create an image on another partition then fsck that and copy the data, you could just restore from backup and reinstall
[00:29] <racecar56> yothere12091, sudo nautilus
[00:29] <racecar56> !su
[00:29] <bruce89> !gksudo
[00:29] <tehfalcon> bruce89: try using a text only browser ;)
[00:29] <racecar56> su != sudo.... :P
[00:29] <yothere12091> how does one sudo nautilus
[00:29] <WirmDrink> yes alsa fails allot less
[00:29] <tehfalcon> that is little
[00:29] <sebsebseb> yep text only browser such as Lynx and Links can be fun
[00:29] <bruce89> tehfalcon: heh
[00:30] <sebsebseb> browsers
[00:30] <racecar56> so !su shouldn't have to do with sudo
[00:30] <ActionParsnip> yothere12091: if the files are owned by you you dont need sudo or gksudo
[00:30] <racecar56> btw i fixed my su
[00:30] <bruce89> CLI browsers are the same as a CLI image browser
[00:30] <bruce89> not quite as bad I suppose
[00:30] <tehfalcon> does SU work on gnome terminal?
[00:30] <ActionParsnip> racecar56: su isnt used except to switch between users
[00:30] <tehfalcon> i have only used it on kde
[00:30] <sebsebseb> tehfalcon: of course it does
[00:30] <yothere12091> they belong to me but I've logged in using the CD. if I login to my copy on the hd the computer won't connect any other drives listed anywhere
[00:30] <glitsj16> WirmDrink: with guidance of http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=789578 pulseaudio works just fine in intrepid
[00:30] <tehfalcon> oh wow
[00:30] <sebsebseb> tehfalcon: you can use su instead of sudo
[00:31] <tehfalcon> that saves you typing sudo all the time
[00:31] <racecar56> ActionParsnip, i got it to work like when you use 'su -' it asks for password and unlike 'normal', it actually dosen't have a auth fail
[00:31] <dean> sudo su works to get a root shell
[00:31] <bruce89> sudo -s does the same as su, but doesn't need a root password
[00:31] <ActionParsnip> racecar56: use   sudo -i
[00:31] <sebsebseb> tehfalcon: sure, but with this distro, it's sudo this that or the other and sometimes gksudo
[00:31] <racecar56> i gig
[00:31] <racecar56> *gtg
[00:31] <ActionParsnip> dean:  sudo -i   is advised
[00:31] <dean> usually on ubuntu you don't set the root password though
[00:32] <sebsebseb> tehfalcon: Ubuntu and I guess ubuntu based distros, being the only ones that use sudo by default by the sounds of it
[00:32] <ActionParsnip> dean: usually yes, unless you want to be un-ubuntu
[00:32] <Silkjc> I'm attempting to limit my system memory to resolve another problem that goes away when I remove my second memory DIMM. Passing mem=2048M results in a garbled X display on boot, anyone got any suggestions?
[00:32] <bruce89> it'll likely annoy me when I switch away from Ubuntu
[00:32] <tehfalcon> sebsebseb: where does sudo come from?
[00:32] <sebsebseb> tehfalcon: Unix it's been around since 1979 or something Sudo has
[00:32] <felixsulla> So if you use Debian it doesnt use su?
[00:32] <dean> tehfalcon: super user do once
[00:32] <toggles> tehfalcod: super user do
[00:33] <tehfalcon> k
[00:33] <ActionParsnip> tehfalcon: Super User DO#
[00:33] <sebsebseb> felixsulla: every distro can do su I think,  and  most distros have a normal user account, and a seperate  root account
[00:33] <tehfalcon> i was thinking the same thing felix
[00:33] <tehfalcon> does sudo work on debian?
[00:33] <sebsebseb> felixsulla: there is a seperate root account or kind of anyway in Ubuntu, but it doesn't really get used
[00:33] <ActionParsnip> tehfalcon: indeed
[00:33] <dean> sebsebseb: all distros have a root account, it's just that the root account is locked and has no password on ubuntu
[00:33] <sebsebseb> tehfalcon: sudo can be installed into other distros yes
[00:33] <ActionParsnip> sebsebseb: by default it is disabled
[00:34] <dean> tehfalcon: only if the user is given permission in /etc/sudoers
[00:34] <dean> see man sudoers
[00:34] <dean> !man
[00:34] <dean> !sudoers
[00:34] <FloodBot2> dean: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:34] <sebsebseb> !sudo
[00:34] <ActionParsnip> sebsebseb: not just "not used"
[00:34] <ubuntu__> Any GRUB wizards? I'm trying to dual boot xp/ubuntu, but I'm not sure what to enter in menu.lst. The hdx,y number for my XP partition seems to change from time to time when I boot from the live cd.
[00:34] <sebsebseb> !root
[00:34] <tehfalcon> lol
[00:34] <poseidon> How I install a .deb?
[00:34] <bruce89> !grub
[00:34] <ActionParsnip> sebsebseb: i wish more people would read that
[00:34] <sebsebseb> poseidon: just click on it or you can easily do it with the terminal
[00:34] <dean> poseidon
[00:34] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: which one?
[00:34] <ubuntu__> bruce89, thx
[00:34] <dean> poseidon: sudo dpkg -i <filename> or double click
[00:34] <ActionParsnip> !root | sebsebseb
[00:35] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: that one ok
[00:35] <tc111> yothere12091: Alt-F2 -> gksu nautilus... but why, could be very dangerous.
[00:35] <bruce89> !gksudo
[00:35] <drcrazy> hi
[00:35] <poseidon> dean, well I have like 8 which are dependent on each other.  What would be the best way for me to install them
[00:35] <sebsebseb> poseidon: by default  the termianl goes into the home folder.  so it makes sense to put debs in there.  otherwise you can cd into another folder
[00:35]  * sdasdas weno uno q se va a dormir, hasta mañana a todos q descanseis
[00:35] <drcrazy> how would i list my current installed printers ?
[00:36] <tehfalcon> sdasdas: adios
[00:36] <sebsebseb> poseidon: then you can do.  sudo dpkg -i namegoeshere.deb
[00:36] <coreyman> anyone know about openssh
[00:36] <bruce89> poseidon: sudo dpkg -i *deb
[00:36] <sebsebseb> drcrazy: hello
[00:36] <drcrazy> hi sebsebseb
[00:36] <elitheserpent> hello
[00:36] <bruce89> !hi
[00:36] <xapt> Thanks everyone... Still trying to figure out what the up address for my guest is so I can access it from the host
[00:36] <elitheserpent> can someone tell me how to add servers in xchat?
[00:36] <xapt> i'll call my brother, he knows all about vmware stuff :P
[00:36] <sebsebseb> ok  the guys in here that do hello. if you got a question just ask
[00:36] <felixsulla> haha, Im such a dork, I just did cal from the command line and thought it rocks :)
[00:36] <sebsebseb> !ask
[00:36] <xapt> Thanks for the help
[00:37] <dean> xapt: samanddeanus.no-ip.org/cgi-bin/info
[00:37] <dean> that should tell you an IP address, user agent, etc.
[00:37] <sebsebseb> dean: he is gone
[00:37] <sebsebseb> to late
[00:38] <bruce89> tab help in that department
[00:38] <bruce89> *helps
[00:38] <Unislash> hey guys, i'm having trouble setting up iptables with ubuntu (Intrepid)
[00:38] <bruce89> !ufw
[00:38] <elitheserpent> how can I add servers to the list in xchat?
[00:38] <Silkjc> Is there a channel for X? Googleing for X is kinda pointless xD
[00:38] <tokies> Hi I am on a mac and I used netalk to connect up to my mac for file share but I can not see any of the drives connected only the home folder
[00:38] <drcrazy> i installed my linux, but plugged my printer after installation, how can i verify the list of installed printers ?
[00:38] <drcrazy> in an cli environment.
[00:38] <slashzul> what tool is available for creating jpg image proofs?
[00:38] <yothere12091> tc111: worked like a charm....so far
[00:39] <ActionParsnip> drcrazy: try lshw
[00:39] <bruce89> drcrazy: can you access http://localhost:631
[00:39] <Unislash> well, if anyone would like to help me set up iptables for apache2, please do :)
[00:39] <drcrazy> bruce89: whats that name of that cli browser again ? :P
[00:40] <bruce89> w3m
[00:40] <a555> Hello, what ubuntu gnome irc app can i used to go on irc with socks5?
[00:40] <drcrazy> thats not the one I was thinking of
[00:40] <tim__b> a555 xchat can connect via socks5 proxy
[00:40] <drcrazy> but it seems to work.
[00:40] <drcrazy> brb, checking what i can do.
[00:40] <a555> how about konversation?
[00:40] <ActionParsnip> bruce89: w3m or lynx2
[00:41] <a555> tim_b; where is the setting for it in xchat?
[00:41] <drcrazy> oh lynx is what i was thinking of
[00:41] <tc111> a555: for gnome, X-Chat and Pidgin support socks
[00:41] <bruce89> I went for w3m because it is installed by default
[00:41] <drcrazy> ;)
[00:41] <drcrazy> thankx
[00:41] <tokies> is there anyway for me to create like a short cut or something to connect me from the home folder to the drives on my ubuntu 8.10 .... so my mac can connect to them using AFP ...
[00:41] <tokies> ?
[00:41] <drcrazy> no printers installed ;)
[00:41] <tim__b> a555 Options, Network, and then there's a proxy section
[00:41] <tokies> I can stream media but no way to reach those drives..
[00:41] <drcrazy> goude, I'll follow the installation procedures :D
[00:42] <sebsebseb> drcrazy: links is another one
[00:42] <a555> so i have to use xchat and pidgion in a combination to get socks5 irc to work?
[00:42] <sebsebseb> drcrazy: lynx and links
[00:42] <drcrazy> never heard of links
[00:42] <lstarnes> a555: no, just one or the other
[00:42] <tc111> a555: no, both support, pick one
[00:42] <drcrazy> sounds like a remake of lynx
[00:42] <sebsebseb> drcrazy: it might be
[00:42] <drcrazy> brb
[00:42] <drcrazy> installing printer ;D
[00:42] <lstarnes> a555: I think regular xchat does support socks, but not xchat-gnome
[00:42] <a555> what is the irc command to set the socks5 proxy you want to use?
[00:42]  * drcrazy crosses his fingers
[00:43] <tehfalcon> back...
[00:43]  * bruce89 wonders why people don't like xchat-gnome
[00:43] <sebsebseb> bruce89: real xchat is apparnatlly better, and Konversation is :)
[00:43] <tehfalcon> i love pidgin :)
[00:43]  * bruce89 goes for Empathy
[00:43] <a555> i dunno just the look and feel of it i guess..
[00:43] <LordFDisk> bruce89, I use XChat I like it
[00:43] <a555> makes my eyes hurt
[00:43] <Desmond> is there like an ubuntu-mac channel?
[00:44] <bruce89> for non-IRC
[00:44] <sebsebseb> Desmond: nope
[00:44] <Desmond> ok
[00:44] <tehfalcon> ubuntu mac :|
[00:44] <tokies> good question tho
[00:44] <sebsebseb> Desmond: there is #mac ,but I wonder if thats just for OS X or more general
[00:44] <a555> to be honest.. i am just switching from mirc
[00:44] <Desmond> thanks
[00:44] <sebsebseb> Desmond: there is also #linux which is a general Linux channel
[00:44] <tc111> lstarnes, a555: lstarnes is correct, the gnome version does not, use the actual xchat (unmodified/uncrippled) version.
[00:44] <lstarnes> a555: in xchat, try Settings > preferences > network > network setup
[00:44] <tacosarecool> there's #macrumors
[00:45] <tacosarecool> I think it's on freenode
[00:45] <sebsebseb> a555: yeah IRC sucks
[00:45] <sebsebseb> a555: apparantly
[00:45] <sebsebseb> uh
[00:45] <sebsebseb> I meant mirc
[00:45] <FloodBot2> sebsebseb: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:45] <b3rz3rk3r> lol seb :p
[00:45] <sebsebseb> heh floodbot
[00:45] <b3rz3rk3r> floodbot pwns all
[00:45] <sschultz> Can anyone point me to a helpful resource of Ubuntu tutorials to help a newb setup a webserver (LAMP) on ubuntu? Thanks!
[00:45] <a555> dont see the option
[00:46] <sebsebseb> !lamp | sschultz
[00:46] <tc111> !lamp | sschultz
[00:46] <a555> i may have to try and use wine to use mirc
[00:46] <sebsebseb> a555: wtf??????
[00:46] <sebsebseb> lol
[00:46] <a555> lol
[00:46] <sschultz> cool - thanks sebsebseb and tc111
[00:46] <a555> for real man
[00:46] <sebsebseb> a555: loasd of nice  IRC  clients for  Linux
[00:46] <a555> this irc client sucks
[00:46] <sebsebseb> a555: Xchat and Konversation are  two examples
[00:46] <a555> best one i have found was konversation
[00:47] <nightrid3r> a555 try kvirc
[00:47] <sebsebseb> a555: Chatzilla  Firefox addon, and there are others
[00:47] <tehfalcon> pidgin is pretty decent with irc
[00:47] <a555> but it does not have a option for socks5 that i seen
[00:47] <cbane> is there an official way to set stuff under /sys on boot, like /etc/sysctl.conf sets stuff under /proc/sys?
[00:47] <a555> i may have to check out chatzilla
[00:47]  * bruce89 would have thought xchat-gnome would use GNOME's proxy settings
[00:47] <cbane> i've got something in /etc/rc.local for now, but i'd like something a bit cleaner
[00:47] <sebsebseb> a555: it may be a bit limiting in a way compared to other clients, but either way it is nice
[00:48] <a555> it is free :-)
[00:48] <sebsebseb> of course
[00:48] <a555> and open source
[00:48] <dale1v> err i have a weird problem with my cpu. i have an intel core duo, and one core is at 100% cpu usage, and another is at 0%
[00:48] <LordFDisk> a555,  Xchat has Socks5 under Network setup
[00:48] <sebsebseb> chatzilla is open source I think yeah
[00:48] <tokies> is there a way to create short cuts on ubuntu for "hard drives"
[00:48] <bruce89> !irc
[00:48] <dale1v> looking at my processes, xorg is using 30% cpu
[00:49] <dale1v> and thats it
[00:49] <kadii> sebsebseb, got any solution for my problem http://pastebin.com/m1d44c1d7 ?
[00:49] <tc111> a555: Accounts -> 'Your IRC Account' -> Edit Account -> Advanced Tab -> Proxy Type -> Socks5
[00:49] <tc111> a555: in pidgin... its what i use
[00:50] <tehfalcon> i love the pidgin psychic mode :)
[00:50] <sebsebseb> kadii: ok  aptitude deals better with dependanices than apt-get
[00:50] <sebsebseb> kadii: sudo aptitude install programname
[00:50] <sebsebseb> try that
[00:50] <tehfalcon> it always freaks out my friends when i say what? before they even write
[00:51] <a555> in xchat i did edit > preferences > networks > AccessIRC > edit > ..no option from there for socks5
[00:51] <AngryElf> okay -- I've got 1.5GB of memory in this box -- cat /proc/meminfo says that only ~40MB is free, top only has 4 processes using >0% memory (10 + 5 + 5 + 2)% which is no where near ~1.1GB of ram -- so where is all my memory going to?
[00:52] <bruce89> System>Preferences>Network Proxy
[00:52] <kadii> sebsebseb, http://pastebin.com/m335f9105
[00:52] <mgolisch> AngryElf: free -m
[00:52] <cbane> AngryElf: run "free -m", and the second line with numbers is the values you actually care about
[00:52] <mgolisch> its used by buffers/caches
[00:52] <sebsebseb> kadii: LOL
[00:52] <AngryElf> total: 1516, used 1482
[00:52] <drcrazy> back, I'm running Hardy LTS and I have a HP DeskJet 710c printer. According to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrintersHp I should be using the pnm2ppa drivers. Which way from here ?
[00:52] <a555> ok im going with pidgion
[00:52] <sebsebseb> kadii: you don't put programname you put the name of the thing your installing
[00:53] <bruce89> !info pnm2ppa
[00:53] <drcrazy> simply apt-get it ?
[00:53] <a555> i see it on there, but i promise you there is not an option for it on my xchat lol or i must be blind
[00:53] <cbane> AngryElf: were those numbers from the first or second line with numbers?
[00:53]  * drcrazy reads
[00:53] <AngryElf> 1.3GB of ram to run a recently opened firefox - 4 terminals, calc and pidgin?
[00:53] <AngryElf> cbane: first line
[00:53] <sebsebseb> drcrazy: no he has dependancy issues so  trying aptitude :)
[00:53] <bruce89> sounds right
[00:53] <kadii> sebsebseb, i am out of mind lol drive me crazy whatever i do same problem with exim when i remove it and reinstall give me same problem
[00:53] <drcrazy> still clueless :P
[00:53] <mgolisch> the second is whats important
[00:53] <cbane> AngryElf: you don't care about that line
[00:53] <a555> Pigdion looks like my choice, thanks guys for all the help! :-)
[00:53] <AngryElf> the swap?
[00:53] <mgolisch> as its substracts stuff used for buffers/caches
[00:54] <cbane> AngryElf: it's the second line with numbers you actually care about
[00:54] <mgolisch> which are freed upon request
[00:54] <tc111> a555: XChat 2.8.6 -> Settings -> Preferences -> Network -> Network Setup -> Type -> Socks5
[00:54] <tehfalcon> where can i find firefox's bookmarks in my vista installation?
[00:54] <AngryElf> the -/+ buffers/cache line?
[00:54] <lfaraone> Hi, I'm seeing multiple additional LOAD_CYCLES on my laptop after about 2 minutes, should I be concerned?
[00:54] <mgolisch> AngryElf: yeah
[00:54] <cbane> AngryElf: yes
[00:54] <drcrazy> sebsebseb: im in cli...does aptitude work in cli mode ?
[00:54] <huggintime> this is dylan
[00:54] <AngryElf> looks like -- used: 411, free: 1104
[00:54] <AngryElf> "-/+ buffers/cache" runs into where the total might be
[00:54] <cbane> AngryElf: so you have 1104 MB free
[00:54] <sebsebseb> kadii: ok insall the depandencies and try your program again
[00:54] <drcrazy> bruce89: your saying apt-get it ? (sounds right ?)
[00:55] <sebsebseb> kadii: install the programs that it wants
[00:55] <cbane> AngryElf: the rest is being used to cache stuff from your hard drive, and other things like that
[00:55] <bruce89> drcrazy: well, I prefer aptitude, but yup
[00:55] <AngryElf> cbane: it feels like the first line -- 1516/1390/125 total/used/freer
[00:55] <cbane> AngryElf: it will be released if anything actually needs the memory
[00:55] <huggintime> i need compiz who can help
[00:55] <drcrazy> and aptitude in cli ?
[00:55] <sebsebseb> drcrazy: you can use apt-get or aptitude
[00:55] <bruce89> sudo aptitude install pnm2ppa
[00:55] <AngryElf> cbane: thanks
[00:55] <sebsebseb> !apt
[00:55] <sebsebseb> !apt-get
[00:55] <drcrazy> oh
[00:55] <sebsebseb> !aptitude
[00:55] <bruce89> !abuse | sebsebseb
[00:56] <bruce89> oops
[00:56] <uvacav> anyone know of any effort to get ie8 betas running in wine?
[00:56] <sebsebseb> !abuse |  bruce89
[00:56] <bruce89> sebsebseb: got the wrong one, sorry
[00:56] <huggintime> jk
[00:56] <drcrazy> is aptitude really better ? (does it do unknown stuff in your back ?)
[00:56] <bruce89> no
[00:56] <lfaraone> bruce89: !botabuse
[00:56] <drcrazy> k
[00:56] <lfaraone> drcrazy: yes
[00:56] <tritium> drcrazy: no
[00:56] <drcrazy> euh :P
[00:56] <sebsebseb> I was not abusing the bot
[00:56]  * drcrazy is confused
[00:56] <lfaraone> drcrazy: it installs all "recommends"
[00:56] <sebsebseb> I was getting the bot to tell them about apt and aptitude
[00:57] <bruce89> lfaraone: so does apt-get now
[00:57] <levander> How do I tell which distribution I'm using?  E.g., Hardy, Gusty, etc..
[00:57] <tritium> drcrazy: it's simply a matter of how they handle the "recommended" packages.  They handle true dependencies the same way.
[00:57] <lfaraone> sebsebseb: I know, but I was just telling huggintime what command to use
[00:57] <lfaraone> bruce89: ... since when?
[00:57] <tritium> levander: lsb_release -a
[00:57] <bruce89> levlsb_release -a
[00:57] <bruce89> lfaraone: some time now
[00:57] <sebsebseb> drcrazy: for big things like  xubuntu-desktop :)   or kubuntu-desktop if you like, you should aptitude them
[00:57] <drcrazy> im waiting for the verdict if apt-get handles it as well :)
[00:57]  * bruce89 has configured aptitude to not install recommends
[00:57] <sebsebseb> drcrazy: sudo aptitude install xubuntu-desktop
[00:57] <tehfalcon> why there's a 5.8 MB folder in mozilla firefox named Chrome?
[00:57] <drcrazy> sebsebseb: understood for Gui stuff :)
[00:58] <sebsebseb> drcrazy: for smaller things  apt-get is usualley fine
[00:58] <drcrazy> but i'm not on X
[00:58] <huggintime> #yooph
[00:58] <tritium> sebsebseb: there is no signficant difference
[00:58] <lfaraone> tehfalcon: it's the UI configuration etc
[00:58] <sebsebseb> aptitude will say is this soloution good and you put yes or no
[00:58] <tehfalcon> oh, i see
[00:58] <bruce89> drcrazy: if not already, you should use screen
[00:58] <lfaraone> tehfalcon: ask the FF people if you want the detailed answer, but just don't mess with it :)
[00:58] <drcrazy> so for pnm2ppa, apt-get should do fine, right ? :P
[00:58] <sebsebseb> apparnatlly apt-get is deprecated or maybe that's just Debian
[00:58] <drcrazy> bruce89: i'm always on remote, sorry :)
[00:58] <bruce89> doesn't matter
[00:59] <drcrazy> and i don't want to X it :)
[00:59] <bruce89> !screen
[00:59] <tehfalcon> lfaraone: do you happen to know from where i should import my bookmarks???
[00:59] <kadii> sebsebseb, problem i remove everything when i reinstall something it give me unpacking exim4-daemon-light and i remove it already
[00:59] <drcrazy> humm
[00:59] <tehfalcon> lfaraone: i'm on ubuntu and i'm trying to import the bookmarks from vista
[00:59] <sebsebseb> kadii: what is exim4 anyway?
[00:59] <tywashere> Hello?
[00:59] <lfaraone> tehfalcon: hehe...
[00:59] <sebsebseb> tehfalcon: you can on installation, but after that nope
[00:59] <cbane> sebsebseb: it's a mail server
[01:00] <drcrazy> bruce89: i'll check to see what it does more than putty !?
[01:00] <lfaraone> thehardman: file>import
[01:00] <tywashere> Can I get some help? o_o
[01:00] <tehfalcon> :(
[01:00] <bruce89> drcrazy: it's just that you disappeared to do something and then came back
[01:00] <kadii> sebsebseb, it come with sendmail server
[01:00] <lfaraone> thehardman: but you'd have to copy the file over to ubuntu first.
[01:00] <sebsebseb> tehfalcon: ,but you can access  your vista partition and get your bookmarks from it
[01:00] <lfaraone> thehardman: what sebsebseb said
[01:00] <VilasBoas> Hy i need a litle help i have a "Intel PRO/wireless LAN 2100 3B Mini PCI Adapter" and i cn't use my wireless because ubuntu tells "wireless is disabled" even if i put another pci it gives the same error "wireless is disabled" :(
[01:00] <sebsebseb> tywashere: help with what?
[01:00] <tehfalcon> yes...
[01:00] <Scunizi> drcrazy: if you are remoting into machines and using ssh you NEED to learn screen.. easy to use and crazy useful
[01:00] <sebsebseb> !ask
[01:00] <tehfalcon> how do i get them?
[01:00] <tritium> drcrazy: see here: http://www.debian.org/releases/lenny/i386/release-notes/ch-whats-new.en.html#pkgmgmt
[01:00] <tehfalcon> i have already mounted the partition
[01:00] <tehfalcon> but where do i have too look in my firefox folder?
[01:00] <CloCkWeRX> alright; I am vastly confused about security certificates. I want to install a new certificate, so when I wget https://migs.mastercard.com.au/ I don't have to --no-check-certificate. Everything I have googled so far has told me to install firefox and click on things. This is a server, without firefox. what do I want to google next?
[01:01] <drcrazy> thanks tritium
[01:01] <tritium> drcrazy: sure.  So, sebsebseb is right in that debian is now recommending aptitude over apt-get.
[01:01] <dale1v> does anyone why one of my 2 cpus are taking all the load
[01:01] <cbane> CloCkWeRX: you download the certificate file, put it in /etc/ssl/certs, cd to that dir, and run "c_rehash" as root
[01:01] <drcrazy> tritium: but their comparing it to dselect !? is that the same as apt-get ?
[01:01] <CloCkWeRX> cbane: thanks
[01:02] <tehfalcon> teh sounds better...
[01:02] <cbane> CloCkWeRX: at least, that should work
[01:02] <tywashere> Well, Ive got a couple of problems :P I need to access my backup drive (Which is what I installed wubi on) And It's only showing my main drive (C:\  [I usually use XP]) I want to access my files for half life 2 and such, and the other issue is the face that my volume control wheel controls something, but not my audigy SE X3
[01:02] <kadii> sebsebseb,  give me usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: exim4-config is broken or not fully installed
[01:02] <kadii>  how i can fix the broken ?
[01:02] <porter1> Any PHP users on ubuntu here knw how to turn error reporting on? PHP5 on ubuntu refuses to report any errors
[01:02] <TheSniper> Anyone who'd like to check my grub config file for errors?
[01:02] <sebsebseb> tehfalcon: bookmarks.html  or  it's a sq light database
[01:02] <bruce89> kadii: start aptitude, and see what's wrong
[01:02] <TheSniper> porter1: Something in php.ini?
[01:02] <tritium> drcrazy: dselect is different (a higher-level interface)
[01:02] <drcrazy> k k
[01:02] <drcrazy> trying aptitude :P
[01:02] <TheSniper> porter1: Tried searching for error in it?
[01:03] <drcrazy> wow, an interface
[01:03] <tehfalcon> there;s a bookmarks.html inside profiles but it only contains the default bookmarks
[01:03] <drcrazy> nice, installed packages etc.. :D
[01:03] <drcrazy> thanks
[01:03] <sebsebseb> drcrazy: yeah it can run in terminal,  and  you can just do command for aptitude
[01:03] <porter1> TheSniper, it doesn't report errors in browser or in my specified log
[01:03] <tritium> drcrazy: yes, but you can use it just like apt-get (sudo aptitude install foo), etc.
[01:03] <cbane> tehfalcon: is there a places.sqlite?
[01:03] <drcrazy> yup yup, get it :)
[01:03] <porter1> Or even in error.log for apache
[01:03] <drcrazy> was just looking :)
[01:03] <tritium> drcrazy: i.e., no need to use that interface you're seeing
[01:03] <tehfalcon> cbane: where?
[01:04] <cbane> tehfalcon: in the same dir as the bookmarks.html
[01:04] <drcrazy> tritium: yup yup, i know
[01:04]  * drcrazy reads up on what the hell Screen is
[01:04] <tywashere> did you get that sebsebseb ?
[01:04] <tehfalcon> cbane: negative
[01:04] <cbane> tehfalcon: are you looking under program files, or documents and settings?
[01:04] <drcrazy> Oooh
[01:04] <TheSniper> porter1: Exactly.. Have you tried searching for "error" inside php.ini? displayerrors or something..
[01:04] <kadii> bruce89, give me exim4-config conflict with postfix
[01:04] <tehfalcon> cbane: prog files
[01:04] <drcrazy> im fine with multiple putty windows opened :P
[01:04] <sebsebseb> tywashere: about 5 convos going on here at once
[01:04] <tritium> drcrazy: /msg ubottu screen
[01:04] <bruce89> kadii: what does it suggest doing?
[01:04] <porter1> TheSniper, display_errors = On
[01:05] <porter1> It's already turned on
[01:05] <Unislash> hey guys, can someone help me set up my iptables for apache2?
[01:05] <cbane> drcrazy: you can detach a screen session, log out of ssh, and reattach when you ssh back in
[01:05] <porter1> and log_errors = On
[01:05] <tywashere> sorry seb, I jsut cant find any info on any of this =(
[01:05] <sebsebseb> tywashere: wubi  your best to partition your hard disk
[01:05] <kadii> bruce89, how i can remove them from there?
[01:05] <tywashere> I know D=, But I was too lazy :\
[01:05] <huggintime> WHATS THE COMAND FOR COMPI PLEASE HELP
[01:05] <tritium> drcrazy: Screen is very handy.  I use it regularly.  See here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Screen
[01:05] <Unislash> searched online and have what i think is a nice set of rules to be applied, but i don't know how to apply them
[01:05] <sebsebseb> tywashere: I saw a wubi install once,  when I was remote connected into one
[01:05] <tritium> huggintime: no need for all caps, please
[01:05] <bruce89> kadii: 'e' will suggest a fix
[01:06] <sebsebseb> tywashere: seems you can access the Windows host files, it's just a bit weird
[01:06] <bruce89> !caps | huggintime
[01:06] <tywashere> oh?
[01:06] <cbane> tehfalcon: i'm not sure on the exact directory (i've never used vista, and i don't have any windows boxes available), but there should be something under "c:\Documents and Settings\<your user name" which is where your actual firefox settings are stored
[01:06] <huggintime> ok can yal help please
[01:06] <sebsebseb> tywashere: there should be a host folder in there some where I think
[01:06] <kadii> bruce89, i type g it's removing
[01:06] <tehfalcon> cbane: i'll search there right away
[01:07] <tehfalcon> cbane: i knew that it can't be in there because the folder containing profiles was named default
[01:07] <tywashere> It isnt on my main drive (I cang et to that easily ;) music and all that) I have steam on my backup drive (What I put wubi on)
[01:07] <huggintime> i cant find compiz can some one help
[01:07] <cbane> tehfalcon: and then the bookmarks.html (for firefox 2) or places.sqlite (for firefox 3) will contain the bookmarks
[01:07] <lfaraone> huggintime: whereis compiz
[01:07] <sebsebseb> tywashere: get rid of wubi and partition?
[01:07] <tehfalcon> ok,i'll do a search
[01:07] <Unislash> tehfalcon: i think it's in C:\Documents and Settings\Application Data\Mozilla\firefox\profiles
[01:08] <lfaraone> huggintime: the command is "compiz". to replace, use "compiz --replace"
[01:08] <Unislash> tehfalcon: show hidden files
[01:08] <tywashere> search for it in add/remove huggintime
[01:08] <lfaraone> huggintime: to do magic, apt-get install compiz-config-settings-manager. :)
[01:08] <huggintime> i tryed its not there
[01:08]  * lfaraone -> detached.
[01:08] <lfaraone> huggintime: install it.
[01:08] <bruce89> huggintime: sudo aptitude install compiz
[01:08] <kadii> bruce89, it work :D you are master :P with one word fixed
[01:08] <huggintime> ok
[01:09] <Unislash> hey guys, can someone help me set up my iptables for apache2? I've got the rules... i just don't know how to apply them :)
[01:09] <bruce89> kadii: that's why aptitude is so great
[01:09] <drcrazy_away> If I wanna just keep my system up to date with aptitude, I do : update and after full-upgrade ?
[01:09] <tacosarecool> I just want it to burn like iTunes keeps all the lyrics in when burning
[01:09] <cbane> drcrazy_away: you do "aptitude update" first, then "aptitude full-upgrade"
[01:09] <drcrazy_away> k
[01:09] <bruce89> drcrazy_away: probably better with safe-upgrade actually
[01:09] <drcrazy_away> prfect
[01:09] <bruce89> doesn't remove stuff
[01:09] <drcrazy_away> really ?
[01:10] <drcrazy_away> humm
[01:10] <drcrazy_away> how bad can it get ? hehe
[01:10] <drcrazy_away> as for example, python2.3 gets removed ?
[01:10] <drcrazy_away> cuz it becomes too obsolute ?
[01:11] <huggintime> that comand didnt work
[01:11] <bruce89> if you want to do a big upgrade, you just start aptitude and have a look
[01:11] <cbane> drcrazy_away: stuff will only get removed if it's marked as auto-installed, and nothing depends on it anymore
[01:11] <TheSniper> My GRUB menu file uses uuid entries(same id for all of them), and as far as I can tell(ls /dev/disk/by-uuid) the id value is ok. But I still get error #17, ie Can't mount parrtition. Any guesses?
[01:11] <jpablanche> please help to my problem about vbox
[01:11] <drcrazy_away> k, then full-upgrade should do :)
[01:11] <zaapiel> does ubuntu server follow the same release schedule? Will there be a 9.04 ubuntu-server?
[01:11] <crdlb> zaapiel: yes
[01:11] <nightrid3r> zaapiel yup
[01:12] <jpablanche>  p, li { white-space: pre-wrap; }  The VirtualBox Linux kernel driver (vboxdrv) is either not loaded or there is a permission problem with /dev/vboxdrv. Re-setup the kernel module by executing
[01:12] <jpablanche> '/etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup'
[01:12] <jpablanche> as root. Users of Ubuntu or Fedora should install the DKMS package at first. This package keeps track of Linux kernel changes and recompiles the vboxdrv kernel module if necessary.
[01:12] <FloodBot2> jpablanche: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:12] <jpablanche> that my problem
[01:12] <zaapiel> ok
[01:12] <crdlb> zaapiel: the only difference is that LTS releases are supported for 5 years instead of 3 for ubuntu desktop
[01:12] <cbane> TheSniper: is this an ext3 partition you created yourself?
[01:12] <zaapiel> ok
[01:12] <Unislash> Hmmm, when i type "sudo iptables-save > /etc/iptables.test.rules" i get "bash: /etc/iptables.test.rules: Permission denied"
[01:12] <zaapiel> they have nightly builds of sever?
[01:12]  * zaapiel wants ext4 support
[01:12] <huggintime> can some one help me get it
[01:12] <bruce89> crdlb: actually, normal ones are only 1.5
[01:12] <crdlb> bruce89: I mean desktop LTS
[01:12] <Unislash> huggintime: i got it through synaptic
[01:13] <TheSniper> cbane: ext3 yes, self.. Well, I guess you could say that
[01:13] <tritium> zaapiel: #ubuntu+1 for jaunty, nightly builds, and ext4
[01:13] <drcrazy_away> wiii, its upgrading apache  lol, fun
[01:13] <sebsebseb> kadii:  I'll take a tiny bit of credit please :D  since I was the one to mention aptitude first to you and so point you in that direction :)
[01:13] <Unislash> huggintime: just search compiz
[01:13] <cbane> Unislash: with that command, iptables-save gets run as root, but the file operation happens as your normal user
[01:13] <zaapiel> k
[01:13] <bruce89> crdlb: so you did
[01:13] <huggintime> on what google
[01:13] <bruce89> sebsebseb: heh
[01:13] <Unislash> cbane: how would i log in as root?
[01:13] <jpablanche> http://paste.ubuntu.com/129602/
[01:13] <jpablanche> this my problem and error http://paste.ubuntu.com/129602/
[01:13] <Unislash> huggintime: no, in synaptic: System->Administration->Synaptic Package Manager
[01:13] <nightrid3r> !root | Unislash
[01:13] <cbane> Unislash: the easiest way to get a root shell is "sudo -s", and type your password
[01:14] <tehfalcon> cbane: the backup file from today was in /media/HP/Users/Arnold/AppData/Roaming/Mozilla/Firefox/Profiles/nfylopjv.default
[01:14] <Unislash> ah, right. k
[01:14] <drcrazy_away> humm, im starting to like aptitude :P
[01:14] <tehfalcon> wow.....
[01:14] <jpablanche> please help me with this problem about vbox http://paste.ubuntu.com/129602/
[01:14] <bruce89> aptitude's got a GUI now
[01:14] <tehfalcon> hp is my C:/ partition and arnold username
[01:14] <sebsebseb> drcrazy_away: it can be good, but  I am in the habit of doing apt-get for most stuff
[01:15] <drcrazy_away> sebsebseb: i can imagine :)
[01:15] <_jet__> I can't find what I choose to installed with aptitude... :-(
[01:15] <bruce89> _jet__: press 'g'
[01:15] <sebsebseb> bruce89: GUI you mean  the terminal program?
[01:15] <jpablanche> im using vbox for the first time and im come with this problem http://paste.ubuntu.com/129602/
[01:15] <bruce89> sebsebseb: no, GTK+
[01:15] <drcrazy_away> aptitude is great for searches :P
[01:16] <_jet__> bruce89: "No packages are scheduled to be installed, removed, or upgraded"
[01:16] <tritium> drcrazy_away: as is apt-cache search
[01:16] <sebsebseb> bruce89: oh
[01:16] <_jet__> bruce89: but I wish to know what I already installed
[01:16] <bruce89> _jet__: oops, just open the "installed packages" bit
[01:16] <_jet__> bruce89: where ? how ?
[01:16] <bruce89> sebsebseb: only in Debian experimental so far
[01:17] <bruce89> _jet__: arrow keys and enter
[01:17] <cbane> TheSniper: grub doesn't support ext3 partitions with an inode size of 256, which is now the default
[01:17] <TheSniper> cbane: I guess you could say that, ext3 and I did some fiddling with the partitions outside ubuntu installer. Why?
[01:17] <drcrazy_away> tritium: ah, i was looking for that one
[01:17] <TheSniper> cbane: Strike last :)
[01:17] <sebsebseb> jpablanche: ah yes that error
[01:17] <_jet__> bruce89: I didin't choose to install 1194 packages....
[01:17] <sebsebseb> jpablanche:  first of all  you put on Virtualbox OSE?????
[01:17] <cbane> you can use "tune2fs <device> | grep 'Inode size:'" to see what the inode size is on the fs in question
[01:18] <cbane> if it's anything but 128, you'll have to recreate the partition
[01:18] <FloodBot2> !netsplit
[01:18] <cbane> TheSniper: and when you recreate it, you'll need to add the -I option to mkfs
[01:18] <bruce89> _jet__: you haven't chosen any then
[01:19] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - If you couldn't speak to the channel during the past minutes, please try again now.
[01:19] <sebsebseb> test
[01:19] <sebsebseb> yeah I didn't want to go looking for my password for this name
[01:19] <_jet__> bruce89: not I probably choose to install 5 something like that
[01:20] <Rainium_Isotope> hey can i download Enlightenment and use it as a desktop environment?
[01:20] <cbane> TheSniper: "mkfs -t ext3 -I 128 <device>"
[01:20] <sebsebseb> Rainium_Isotope: of course, but
[01:20] <sebsebseb> Rainium_Isotope: Enlightment is a bit rubbish the one you get with Ubuntu
[01:20] <abe3k> Hello guys, I'm using ubuntu 8.10 with the nvidia 180.22 drivers and the video sync to vblank isn't working even when I have it enabled from the nvidia settings manager, any help is appreciated
[01:20] <Rainium_Isotope> well i really have linux mint..
[01:20] <sebsebseb> Rainium_Isotope:  ,but the Elive CD now that seems interesting, still not tried it
[01:21] <bruce89> sebsebseb: interestingly, GNOME used to use Enlightenment
[01:21] <bruce89> window manger
[01:21] <bruce89> !enlightenment
[01:21] <Rainium_Isotope> but what im really asking i guess is, if i download and install a deb package of enlightenment, will it keep my current window manager the same and enable me to switch to enlightenment at the login screen just like gnome kde or xfce?
[01:21] <sebsebseb> that's ashame I could help that guy with  Virtualbox, but it seems the netsplit made him leave
[01:22] <jrib> sebsebseb: follow him on the other server!
[01:22] <sebsebseb> Rainium_Isotope: yep you can have loads of them
[01:22] <sebsebseb> jrib: follow him on the other server????
[01:22] <totolink> bonsoir
[01:22] <TheSniper> cbane: Thanks! But just to be sure: I'm trying to dual boot xp/ubuntu for the first time, I could boot ubuntu before that. Do you still think it's the same problem?
[01:22] <Rainium_Isotope> awesome, thank you sebsebseb
[01:22] <bruce89> !hi | totolink
[01:23] <jrib> sebsebseb: never mind
[01:23]  * jrib keeps his bad jokes to himself from now on
[01:23] <bruce89> aw
[01:24] <cbane> TheSniper: if you run "tune2fs <device> | grep 'Inode size:'" (remove the double quotes, keep the single quotes), you can see what the inode size on that fs is
[01:24] <jpablanche> im using vbox OSE here's my problem http://paste.ubuntu.com/129605/
[01:25] <TheSniper> will do right away
[01:25] <abe3k> Hello guys, I'm using ubuntu 8.10 with the nvidia 180.22 drivers and the video sync to vblank isn't working even when I have it enabled from the nvidia settings manager, any help is appreciated
[01:25] <cbane> TheSniper: "tune2fs -l <device> | grep 'Inode size:'", that is
[01:25] <bruce89> with a sudo on the front
[01:25] <cbane> TheSniper: if the number given is anything other than 128, you'll have to recreate the filesystem
[01:26] <sebsebseb> jpablanche: good your back, I said before, ah yes that error, and asked if you were using OSE
[01:26] <sebsebseb> jpablanche: ok OSE is not that good, since no USB suppourt, get the binary from http://www.virtualbox.org if you want USB suppourt, and I know your error
[01:27] <jpablanche> please help me  with this one
[01:28] <sebsebseb> jpablanche: right, well first of all, do you want USB suppourt?
[01:28] <TheSniper> cbane: Uhm, would <device> be something like /dev/...?
[01:28] <bruce89> yp
[01:28] <cbane> TheSniper: yes
[01:28] <Extreme_b> hi, can i not have san but still configured iscsi?
[01:28] <cbane> TheSniper: whatever the device file that your root fs is on
[01:29] <abe3k> Hello guys, I'm using ubuntu 8.10 with the nvidia 180.22 drivers and the video sync to vblank isn't working even when I have it enabled from the nvidia settings manager, any help is appreciated
[01:29] <jpablanche> sebsebseb: thank you ill try Yes i want usb support
[01:29] <sebsebseb> jpablanche: ok get rid of OSE and get the other version
[01:30] <xmedex> hello all
[01:30] <sebsebseb> jpablanche: sudo apt-get purge  whateveroseiscalled
[01:30] <xmedex> somebody help me
[01:30] <bruce89> !ask
[01:30] <xmedex> how i want to build a file server
[01:30] <MacM> hey, i just installed kubuntu on my pc and after a reboot i always get "grub Error 2"
[01:30] <xmedex> !how i want to build a file server
[01:31] <sebsebseb> !grub
[01:31] <bruce89> xmedex: depends on what OS the other computers have
[01:31] <xmedex> windows and linux
[01:31] <bruce89> !samba
[01:31] <xmedex> for office use
[01:32] <xmedex> i have a ubuntu 8.10 server
[01:32] <TheSniper> cbane: It says 256 =[. But I don't get it, I *did* boot into ubuntu before trying to install XP as well.. I must hvae messed with the partitions somehow I guess..
[01:32] <xmedex> and already installed samba
[01:32] <xmedex> but it didnt work
[01:32] <xmedex> why????
[01:32] <pc> hello. im using 8.04 desktop LTS. my wireless is not working, it is Atheros AR242x, can someone help?
[01:32] <sebsebseb> !atheros
[01:33] <TheSniper> cbane: "mkfs -t ext3 -I 128 <device>" then? Are there any disadvantages doing this?
[01:33] <cbane> TheSniper: you'll lose everything on that partition
[01:34] <cbane> TheSniper: so you'll want to back it up first
[01:34] <jpablanche> what im goind to do with this one http://paste.ubuntu.com/129609/
[01:34] <tc111> here's what i want to do with what i have thrown in... 1 - server, 5 - nics (1-1Gb, 4-100Mb). server runs a firewall in a VM. i want to bond/aggregate/trunk (over non- 802.3ad switches) using kernel bonding (mode 6) and ifenslave on eth1-eth3. the host will not assign an address or even see the traffic as bond0 (eth1-3) will be assigned to the VM firewall for WAN access. eth0 (1Gb) is LAN for firewall VM and eth4 is lan for server (8.04.2 - i386, 2GB ram, 2x20
[01:34] <andresj> I have an x86-64 machine; how do I make bochs emulate an x86 (or IA-32) machine instead of x86-64? Thank you. :-)
[01:35] <nightrid3r> xmedex http://ebox-platform.com/
[01:35] <jpablanche> im a vbox user my ubuntu version is 7.10 gutsy
[01:35] <bruce89> !linux32
[01:35] <bruce89> !info linux32
[01:35] <jpablanche> sebsebseb: what im goind to do http://paste.ubuntu.com/129609/
[01:35] <TheSniper> lol Guess I should've seen that one.. Anything else, after reinstalling? I don't know what effect this has on performance..
[01:35] <Extreme_b> !info nfs-kernel-server
[01:36] <cbane> TheSniper: from the man page, it looks like the main advantage of larger inodes is better performance with extended attributes
[01:36] <cbane> TheSniper: which you're not likely to care about
[01:36] <Extreme_b> hi, have anyone tried combining iscsi and nfs before. jus wanna know the possibility . thanks
[01:37] <slerder> Hey guys. While I was just checking the auth.log file and saw something that went on whil I  was away. Any idea what it could be: Mar 10 18:17:01 w CRON[16220]: pam_unix(cron:session): session opened for user root by (uid=0) thanks
[01:37] <sebsebseb> jpablanche: sure, but is that OSE or the binary from virtualbox site?
[01:37] <abe3k> Hello guys, I'm using ubuntu 8.10 with the nvidia 180.22 drivers and the video sync to vblank isn't working even when I have it enabled from the nvidia settings manager, any help is appreciated
[01:37] <cbane> slerder: that's the cron daemon running some scheduled job(s)
[01:37] <jpablanche> i get .deb
[01:37] <jpablanche> sebsebseb i get .deb
[01:38] <slerder> cbane, thanks. anway to know exactly what jobs were run. or to know at what time the system was shut down?
[01:38] <TheSniper> cbane: Nope, not this week, I guess.. Anyway, mkfs says(my translation from swedish): "<device> is mounted, not creating a filesystem here!"
[01:38] <sebsebseb> jpablanche: ok make sure virtualbox ose stuf is all gone. search synaptic even for it
[01:38] <serios> hi
[01:38] <sebsebseb> jpablanche: don't install the binary untill ose is all gone
[01:38] <sebsebseb> serios: hi
[01:38] <cousteau> I have a lot of broken links on /etc/alternatives due to a reinstallation of Java SDK. How can I fix/remove them?
[01:38] <Stralytic> I'm getting the following error when I boot a system that had previously been working for years... RAMDISK: Compressed image found at block 0 \n invalid compressed format (err=2) \n ... I've booted from a live cd and rebuilt the initrd, reinstalled the kernel image, but it still won't boot... can someone help?
[01:38] <Extreme_b> hi
[01:38] <serios> can anyone do me a favor and link me the deb package for linux kernel server modules for 2.6.27-13
[01:38] <jpablanche> sebsebseb ok ill do it wait thanks ill be back
[01:39] <serios> i believe its in ubuntu proposed
[01:39] <Extreme_b> hi, have anyone tried combining iscsi and nfs before. jus wanna know the possibility . thanks
[01:39] <serios> i managed to uninstall it and now i have no wifi :(
[01:39] <etfb> Any idea why networkmanager is reporting "No network device found" when a laptop wakes up from Suspend/Hibernate?
[01:39] <TheSniper> cbane: mount -something? *checking man*
[01:40] <serios> anyone?
[01:40] <serios> please
[01:40] <serios> :/
[01:40] <cbane> TheSniper: if you're not booted into that system right now, you can do "umount <device>" to unmount it
[01:40] <cbane> TheSniper: if you are booted into that system, you'll have to boot from something else first
[01:41] <Laundry> i configured my network via the gnome app that comes with ubuntu, and i haven't been able to get any internet
[01:41] <Laundry> it says the connection is enabled, but i don't think im connected to the network
[01:42] <zaccour> if i install Ubuntu onto my ps3 will i be able to navigate the same way i can on the ps3 OS?
[01:42] <zaccour> with my controller i mean
[01:42] <Leon_Nardella> Any news about ICQ being broken in Intrepid's (at least ) Pidgin?
[01:42] <jpablanche> sebsebseb: im currently uninstalling all the vbox and its configuration files
[01:42] <danbhfive> how do I change the location of my Desktop folder, ie, the folder that contains everything displayed on the desktop?
[01:42] <sebsebseb> jpablanche: good
[01:42] <zaccour> if i install Ubuntu onto my ps3 will i be able to navigate with my controller?
[01:42] <danbhfive> Leon_Nardella: have you tried installing a later version from getdeb.net?
[01:43] <jpablanche> the after un installing all vbox kernel module what is the next step
[01:43] <Unislash> hmmm... on ubuntu, are all input ports blocked by default (out of the box)?
[01:43] <abe3k> guys, I'm using ubuntu 8.10 with the nvidia 180.22 drivers and the video sync to vblank isn't working even when I have it enabled from the nvidia settings manager, any help is appreciated
[01:43] <TheSniper> cbane: That did it, I'll reboot and reinstall now. Thanks a bunch :)!
[01:44] <cbane> abe3k: if you haven't gotten an answer by now, it's likely that nobody here knows how to help
[01:44] <tritium> abe3k: did you install nvidia-glx-180 from the ubuntu repositories, or install a download from nvidia.com?
[01:44] <serios> the package is exactly: linux-backports-modules-2.6.27-13-server
[01:44] <zaccour> after installing ubuntu 8.10 i applied the first set of updates. i restarted and my wired internet stopped working. how do i fix it?
[01:44] <serios> can anyone link this to me or tell me where to find it
[01:44] <serios> pls
[01:44] <serios> :(
[01:44] <MacM> those 2 grub links didnt help me at all, i still get Error 2 when trying to boot grub =(
[01:44] <cousteau> ok, Java works now
[01:44] <Leon_Nardella> danbhfive: 2.5.5 indeed fixes the problem. I just wanna know whether it's going to be backported to Intrepid.
[01:44] <TheSniper> Maybe I'll use something else other than grub in the future, but I'll leave that for tomorrow..
[01:44] <pc> what the hell... my computer just shutdown while i was running a sudo make install for the wireless card.......
 : I've compiled the driver myself
[01:45] <bruce89> zaccour: !repeat
[01:45] <tritium> abe3k: please try the nvidia-glx-180 package, especially if you want support here.
[01:45] <thatryan> had problems yesterday with fresh install giving me error 18, so i go to start over today but cant even run a live cd anymore, gives same error!  help please :)
[01:45] <zaccour> after installing ubuntu 8.10 i applied the first set of updates. i restarted and my wired internet stopped working. how do i fix it?
[01:45] <danbhfive> Leon_Nardella: check launchpad
[01:46] <pc> ubuntu, i am disappoint
[01:46] <Leon_Nardella> danbhfive: Could you point me to a more accurate url? Don't know where to look.
 : unfortunately that package doesn't work with me and it tells me that no nvidia driver is installed, so I had to compile it manually
[01:46] <Stralytic> ﻿I'm getting the following error when I boot a system that had previously been working for years... RAMDISK: Compressed image found at block 0 \n invalid compressed format (err=2) \n ... I've booted from a live cd and rebuilt the initrd, reinstalled the kernel image, but it still won't boot... can someone help?
[01:46] <Free0ne> Could someone tell me the command for changing the ownership and group of a directory?
[01:46] <danbhfive> Leon_Nardella: did you try searching launchpad.net?  I suppose I could do it for you...
[01:47] <tritium> abe3k: what "tells you" that no driver is installed?
[01:47] <braddcadd> zaccour, type "ifconfig" at the command prompt
[01:47] <jpablanche> sebsebseb what is the next step to do after removing vbox OSE to the synaptic package
[01:47] <sebsebseb> jpablanche: all OSE stuff is gone?
[01:47] <zaccour> im using 9.4 right now, do you recommend that i reinstall 8.10 and try ifconfig?
[01:47] <sebsebseb> jpablanche: have you checked?
 : the nvidia-settings
[01:48] <douche> Hello!
[01:48] <douche> What is the command to install apache
[01:48] <jpablanche> sebsebseb: ok ill double check it wait thanks
[01:48] <unop> Free0ne, chmod http://catcode.com/teachmod/
[01:48] <braddcadd> douche, "sudo aptitude install apache2"
[01:48] <cousteau> wonder why Java uses a different font rendering than the rest of the programs
[01:48] <tritium> abe3k: which card do you have?  180 only supports certain cards.  For example, my GeForce 6150 is not supported by 180 yet.
[01:49] <Darn> where can I download windows 7?
[01:49] <unop> cousteau, it has its own set of 'cross-platform' fonts - but java applications can use installed fonts
[01:49] <unop> !ot | darn
[01:49] <zaccour> i guess i can look for something else
[01:50] <zaccour> is there a distro thats easy like ubuntu and fast like puppy or dsl?
[01:50] <douche> Thanks!
 : my card is GeForce 7600 GS
[01:50] <braddcadd> zaccour, it will be very easy to get your wireless working again
[01:50] <xy|ox> zaccour, xubuntu
[01:50] <tritium> zaccour: try xubuntu, if you have old hardware
[01:50] <braddcadd> zaccour, let's troubleshoot
[01:50] <zaccour> not wireless, wired
[01:51] <Stralytic> ﻿I'm getting the following error when I boot a system that had previously been working for years... RAMDISK: Compressed image found at block 0 \n invalid compressed format (err=2) \n ... I've booted from a live cd and rebuilt the initrd, reinstalled the kernel image, but it still won't boot... can someone help?
[01:51] <unop> zaccour, ubuntu can be customised to be 'lean' like those two.
[01:51] <zaccour> braddcadd, im gonna install 8.10 will you be on in for a couple hours? i need to update so it will be messed up so i can fix it
[01:51] <braddcadd> zaccour, what version are you running?
[01:51] <unop> Stralytic, did you chroot into your system before doing those things?
[01:51] <braddcadd> yes, i will be here
[01:52] <Stralytic> unop: yep
[01:52] <braddcadd> zaccour, I had trouble with some wired connections....but 8.10 fixed my problems
[01:52] <jpablanche> sebsebseb: why is it other virtual ose in the synaptic package cant remove?
[01:52] <zaccour> 8.10 is what i had trouble with, but 9.04 alpha is what im using now
[01:52] <drcrazy> back
[01:52] <unop> Stralytic, have you got any older kernels installed? if so, have you tried them?
[01:52] <zaccour> braddcadd, 8.10 is where my wired internet messed up. after the first update it stopped working
[01:53] <danbhfive> Leon_Nardella: https://bugs.launchpad.net/intrepid-backports/+bug/315760         probably the most informative of the bunch
[01:53] <Stralytic> unop: yep, they do the same thing
[01:53] <Free0ne> unop: Thanks =D
[01:53] <jpablanche> sebsebseb: ok  what is the next step to do sir
[01:53] <sebsebseb> jpablanche: ok OSE is completly gone?
[01:54] <drcrazy> i installed pnm2ppa for my HP DeskJet 710c, but now what ? Cups http://127.0.0.1:631 is still telling me no drivers are installed in the printers list.
[01:54] <amikrop> Hello. Which is the linux distribution that has the latest software?
[01:54] <zaccour> ok im gonna install 8.10 again, update, and come back. i might be a couple hours
[01:54] <wolter> hi
[01:54] <drcrazy> oh, maybe i can install it from within that site.
[01:54] <braddcadd> zaccour, (1) have you tried rebooting after the updates?  (2) what does "ifconfig" give,  (3) also try "route -n" at the terminal
[01:54] <jpablanche> i cant mark it for complete removal?
[01:54] <amikrop> (by default, enabled, in its main repositories, in use)
[01:54] <sebsebseb> amikrop: Debain unstable has later software
[01:54] <wolter> i am having problems with my computer's playback control buttons. They are detected, but they control banshee no more.
[01:54] <zaccour> yes, it messed up after rebooting
[01:54] <MacM> oooooooooh he's booting ubuntu
[01:54] <MacM> :D
[01:54] <tritium> drcrazy: are there not native cups ppd files for your printer?
[01:54] <wolter> The mute button doesn't action the volumn mute niether.
[01:55] <sebsebseb> jpablanche: pm me
[01:55] <zaccour> im thinking about just trying a different distro
[01:55] <danbhfive> amikrop: debian experimental or fedora I think.
[01:55] <amikrop> sebastien: generally, gentoo has later software than ubuntu?
[01:55] <sebsebseb> amikrop: yep I think so
[01:55] <braddcadd> zaccour, ok np
[01:55] <zaccour> braddcadd, will you be here in about 2 hours?
[01:55] <amikrop> sebsebseb, danbhfive: ok
[01:55] <tritium> amikrop: ubuntu never gets too far behind, with releases every 6 months
[01:55] <drcrazy> tritium: not sure. just followed the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrintersHp page
[01:55] <bruce89> out of interest, does anyone know a Fedora-like Debian based distro?
[01:55] <braddcadd> zaccour, there is a good chance i will be here
[01:55] <zaccour> braddcadd, actually, can you just tell me what update not to do?
[01:55] <unop> Stralytic, what did you use to rebuilt the initrd?
[01:56] <unop> rebuild*
[01:56] <zaccour> i need to know what update not to do so i dont mess it up
[01:56] <amikrop> tritium: it can get 5 months back, though
[01:56] <tritium> drcrazy: well, did you step through the process of adding a printer, and look for it?
[01:56] <Stralytic> unop: update-initramfs -k all -u
[01:56] <zaccour> what if i just install security updates? are the rest really important?
[01:56] <amikrop> tritium: * 5 months behind
[01:56] <tritium> amikrop: yes, but what of it?
[01:56] <amikrop> tritium: which is quite a long time
[01:56] <danbhfive> bruce89: what do you want from fedora?
[01:56] <drcrazy> tritium: i just did, and it found it.. now i wonder, did it need that pnm2paa package !??
[01:56] <bruce89> zaccour: the desktop-experience team think they are
[01:56] <Stralytic> unop: and i can decompress the initrd from within the live cd, zcat /boot/initrd-version-blah | cpio -i
[01:56] <zaccour> oh ok
[01:56] <bruce89> danbhfive: decent packages
[01:57] <tritium> drcrazy: not likely
[01:57] <zaccour> i guess i just need to know which update NOT to install so i dont mess up my wired internet
[01:57] <braddcadd> zaccour, i am not sure which update not to do.  I am certain the problem could be fixed in less time than a full install
[01:57] <drcrazy> humm , ill try removing it
[01:57] <tritium> drcrazy: read the output of "apt-cache show pnm2ppa".  I don't think you ever wanted that, really.
[01:57] <zaccour> actually right now im using 9.4 alpha
[01:57] <braddcadd> just get some info to help troubleshoot
[01:57] <trock> un73d^ch4o5
[01:57] <Leon_Nardella> danbhfive: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pidgin/+bug/340151 This seems to be the one.
[01:57] <braddcadd> zaccour, ahhhhh that could be it
[01:58] <bruce89> tritium: it sounds like an image converter, but it isn't
[01:58] <tritium> zaccour: 9.0r questions belong in #ubuntu+1, where there is a big fat warning that it can break your system, since it's still in alpha
[01:58] <zaccour> no, 9.04 fixed my wired internet
[01:58] <tritium> 9.04, even
[01:58] <unop> Stralytic, hmm, have you changed grub at all to pass any options to the kernel at boot?
[01:58] <braddcadd> zaccour, yeah i would reinstall to get back to 8.10 if you want stability
[01:58] <zaccour> 8.10 update messed up my wired internet, thats why i installed 9.04
[01:58] <drcrazy> tritium: whats HP-GDI ?
[01:58] <mib> what tool can i use for gantt chart in ubuntu?
[01:58] <tritium> drcrazy: not sure
[01:59] <bruce89> drcrazy: something non-free surely
[01:59] <Stralytic> unop: kernel		/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.27-13-generic root=/dev/mapper/isw_cfjihgegcf_Volume01 ro
[01:59] <zaccour> braddcadd, im gonna reinstall, update, and come back here with a nearby wireless
[01:59] <drcrazy> tritium:  cuz, all the rest seems to refer to my printer a HP DeskJet 710c
[01:59] <zaccour> be back in a little while
[01:59] <drcrazy> ill try removing it... hehe
[01:59] <danbhfive> Leon_Nardella: yep, thats it!
[02:01] <unop> Stralytic, where does /initrd.img point to?
[02:01] <drcrazy> seems to still find it ;)
[02:01] <drcrazy> if i get problems,.. ill lookup on that thing.
[02:01] <tritium> mib: planner
[02:01] <Stralytic> unop: grub tells it to use: initrd		/boot/initrd.img-2.6.27-13-generic
[02:02] <Stralytic> unop: /initrd.img is a symlink to that file
[02:03] <unop> Stralytic, right, and the file exists right? symlinked correctly?   ls -ld $(readlink -f /initrd.img)
[02:03] <Stralytic> unop: yep
[02:03] <mib> tritium: is planner able to support the display by Month?
[02:03] <drcrazy> username for CUPS ? which one is that ?
[02:03] <drcrazy> I just added the printer and it queries me : Username for CUPS: ? (is that a new login they want to create ?
[02:03] <unop> Stralytic, what does 'file -s' have to say about the image?
[02:04] <tritium> mib: I don't recall.  It can't compare to MS Project yet, but hopefully one day.
[02:04] <Stralytic> unop: initrd.img-2.6.27-13-generic: gzip compressed data, from Unix, last modified: Wed Mar 11 23:13:33 2009
[02:04] <Stralytic> unop: i can zcat the file and cpio -i and its contents are fine
[02:04] <mib> tritium: i remembered i try before on planner and it wasnt able to show the By Month
[02:04] <mib> any other tools other thna planner?
[02:04] <unop> Stralytic, yea, you mentioned
[02:05] <Unislash> can anyone help me with my iptable set up? i'm trying to run a LAMP server using ubuntu desktop
[02:05] <tritium> mib: that's not a common view
[02:05] <mib> so what did u reckon?
[02:05] <Stralytic> unop: doesn't make sense to me that it says it "invalid compressed format" when i can decompress it from the livecd
[02:06] <unop> Stralytic, hmm, odd - I can't think of why that'd be - a quick scour of the forums seems to indicate that the problem is only present in LiveCDs (usually due to a corrupt burn) .. and no, it doesn't make sense.
[02:06] <Unislash> my iptables are here: http://rafb.net/p/2Fdksy46.html and everything looks good to me, but things still aren't working (i have a rounter; i've forwarded ports 80, 8080, and 443, and i've got a static ip)
[02:06] <Nivenaya> Stralytic, what's your issue?  Sorry, I just connected.
[02:06] <unop> Stralytic, but it could be the compression level (but i don't presume you've done anything like that, have you?)
[02:07] <Stralytic> unop: nope
[02:07] <kty> does anyone know if there is a way to install nautilus extensions somewhere in $HOME or subfolder therein, like $HOME/.gnome/nautilus* ?
[02:07] <sebsebseb> rachel: hello,  want some Ubuntu help?
[02:07] <Stralytic> unop: maybe i could try a server kernel and see if it works
[02:07] <Unislash> hehe^^^
[02:07] <kty> oops, it should be $HOME/.gnom2/nautilus*
[02:08] <Nivenaya> kty: you could probably stick it wherever and then symlink the confs to wherever nautilus-extensions expects them to be.
[02:08] <Stralytic> unop: did you notice i am booting from a dmraid? is it possible the initrd is on the second disk and the kernel can't find it?
[02:08] <drcrazy> im wondering what it's asking me to enter "Username for CUPS:" views from w3c (at the bottom of the screen)
[02:08] <unop> Stralytic, well, maybe - but if you say all other kernels exhibit the same behaviour - i don't see how that'd help
[02:08] <drcrazy> views = viewed
[02:09] <kty> Nivenaya: symlink the confs? So I suppose there is a conf file that define where nautilus should look for its own extensions?
[02:09] <unop> Stralytic, good question - but /boot is on the first partition, right?
[02:09] <Nivenaya> kty: i would imagine so.  if you check in synaptic you can actually get a full list of all the files installed by the package and I bet the conf is listed there somewhere.
[02:10] <kylefox> Will 'aptitude safe-upgrade' install security patches?
[02:10] <unop> kylefox, yes
[02:10] <Stralytic> unop: root@ubuntu:/# ls /dev/mapper/         \n      control		﻿isw_cfjihgegcf_Volume0	isw_cfjihgegcf_Volume01    	isw_cfjihgegcf_Volume02
[02:10] <kylefox> unop: thanks :)
[02:10] <unop> kylefox, but aptitude update  is recommended before that.
[02:10] <Unislash> does anyone have experience with iptables?
[02:10] <TomFromWkUp> Hi! I've just installed ubuntu to my computer. Now I want to run it without a monitor, as a server. But when I unplug the monitor it does not want to boot up to gnome... What could I do?
[02:10] <Stralytic> unop: Volume0 is the dmraid, 01 is the root fs, Volume02 is my swap
[02:11] <kty> Nivenaya: that is interesting. I should have checked dpkg -L stuffs. Thanks for the insight.
[02:11] <Nivenaya> Tom: your issue is what, that your system doesn't login automatically?
[02:11] <Nivenaya> kty: sure thing.
[02:11] <volrath> Hey, does anyone know of a way to make a bootable USB stick using a bootable ISO image?
[02:11] <Nivenaya> kty: would have suggested that if I had anticipated console-savvy.  which maybe i should have since you were asking about nautilus-extensions  :)
[02:12] <TomFromWkUp> Nivenaya: It is supposed to login automaticly, but the problem is that it does not boot up... I can'T access it via ssh either..
[02:12] <unop> Stralytic, that doesn't really say much about /boot -- and usually you want to have /boot on a separate partition that isn't on a RAID or LVM scheme.
[02:12] <unop> Stralytic,   mount | grep -i boot
[02:12] <tritium> volrath: System -> Administration -> Create a USB startup disk
[02:12] <Scunizi> What is the name of the last compiler command that makes a .deb.. it's used in place of sudo make install?
[02:13] <Nivenaya> TomFromWkUp, you might try a server distro of Ubuntu.  Technically, I don't think Intrepid lets you SSH into the system unless it's logged in - that's how my laptop works.
[02:13] <drcrazy> anyone have a clue of what "Username for CUPS:" i'm talking about ?
[02:13] <directmind> bootable stick - Ijust saw anarticle on it yesterday but Idon have the link
[02:13] <unop> Scunizi, checkinstall ??
[02:13] <kylefox> unop: will safe-upgrade apply updates to installed packages (such as postgres, for example?)
[02:13] <WebcamWonder> Does anyone have any guides to creating deb packages?
[02:13] <Scunizi> unop: yep.. thanks
[02:13] <Nivenaya> Kind of a mistake to have it set up that way IMHO, but eh.
[02:13] <volrath> tritium: it's not a ubuntu or a linux distro CD image
[02:13] <kty> Nivenaya: well, there are many ways that lead to what we sought, cli is one of them gui is one of them and web is yet another . . . don't worry . . .
[02:13] <Stralytic> unop: /boot isn't on its own partition, it's a directory on the dmraid root partition... which it has been booting off since... 6.04 i think
[02:13] <Scunizi> Nivenaya: TomFromWkUp ssh into a system works without having to log in.. it's a service that loads on startup
[02:13] <TomFromWkUp> Nivenaya but when I boot it up with a monitor it logs automatically and everything is fine. It's only when I unplug the monitor ..
[02:14] <unop> kylefox, well, if a newer version of an installed package is available in the repositories - the newer version (which has the security fixes perhaps) will be installed.
[02:14] <Nivenaya> Scunizi, that's all well and good but I can't SSH into my laptop - running Intrepid - until I've logged in.
[02:14] <tritium> WebcamWonder: see the MOTU packaging guide, or the debian new maintainer's guide
[02:14] <TomFromWkUp> I CAN'T boot up without a monitor attached... that's weird
[02:14] <slacker-> hi guys. I'm running ubuntu 8.10 and keep getting kernel bugs
[02:14] <TomFromWkUp> I'll check up my logs for errors
[02:14] <TomFromWkUp> Hum which logs should I look at?
[02:14] <slacker-> it says
[02:15] <slacker-> [1369713.678092] BUG: unable to handle kernel paging request at ffff87f947da5088
[02:15] <Nivenaya> TomFromWkUp, that IS pretty odd.  if I had to guess X is trying to detect your monitor in a way that doesn't fail gracefully on your video card, check /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[02:15] <Nivenaya> ...actually, hm.  that's not going to be much good because it'll be overwritten when you boot with monitor.
[02:15] <slacker-> followed by a list of loaded modules, a register dump and a call stack
[02:15] <Nivenaya> see if you've got a /var/log/Xorg.1.log
[02:15] <unop> Stralytic, hmm -that could be (if the initrd loads the right modules) - but that's one area I've not messed around much with. I'm not sure what I'd do at this point - perhaps ask someone else (##linux and #debian might have folk that might know what to do too).
[02:16] <slacker-> system is still running but load slowly increases. is there anything I can do before I reboot?
[02:16] <Stralytic> unop: ok, thanks for your help
[02:16] <huggintime> can some one help me do a one on one chat please
[02:16] <WebcamWonder> tritium: Awesome! Thanks!
[02:16] <tritium> WebcamWonder: sure
[02:16] <Titan8990> !test
[02:17] <kattollikisd> Hi, Is there is a program that let me put videos on my iPod?
[02:17] <kty> Nivenaya: well some research shows that the package nautilus does not seem to include any confs that might deal with extension folder, and it seems there is something like /lib/nautilus/extension-2.0, yet there is no such things as extension in ~/.gnome2/nautilus* and ~/.nautilus , so . . . I bet it could be rather hopeless anway . . .
[02:17] <drcrazy> is there a default CUPS password set in Ubuntu hardy ?
[02:17] <Nivenaya> TomFromWkUp, Aah!  My bad.  Try /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old
[02:17] <slacker-> looks like it's an xfs problem
[02:17] <huggintime> i need help with compiz can some one one on one chat
[02:18] <huggintime> please
[02:18] <Nivenaya> kty: that's pretty strange.  maybe try running grep -R nautilus-extensions ~/
[02:19] <drcrazy> or, do I have to set it up with lppasswd myself first ?
[02:19] <sanjud> drcrazy-> kindly read the first page of  localhost:631
[02:19] <Nivenaya> kty, and $ls -R ~/ | grep nautilus-extensions
[02:19] <volrath> Anyone know how to make a bootable USB stick of a windows install disk?
[02:19] <unop> kty, do nautilus extensions mean nautilus script too, by any chance?
[02:19] <Nivenaya> kty, pick through the results and maybe you'll find what you're looking for.
[02:19] <huggintime> nivenaya: can u help
[02:19] <WebcamWonder> tritium: Do you have any preference as to which of the guides should be followed? I am only trying to build deb packages for myself
[02:19] <drcrazy> oh, will check
[02:19] <RoastedTiresX> whos a genius with samba?
[02:20] <TomFromWkUp> Nivenaya, the last line is: (II) UnloadModule: "evdev"
[02:20] <DIFH-iceroot> RoastedTiresX: brasiliens
[02:20] <TomFromWkUp> But there's no apparent huge ERRORS
[02:20] <RoastedTiresX> is samba case sensitive?
[02:20] <huggintime> who now about compiz
[02:20] <RoastedTiresX> like the comments versus paths?
[02:20] <tritium> WebcamWonder: they should be quite consistent.  I don't recall many conflicts between the two.  Start with the ubuntu one, I'd suggest.
[02:20] <RoastedTiresX> My entire samba network isn't accessible from any user, and all I did was add a share and add comments to each share
[02:20] <TomFromWkUp> Nivenaya it's screaming about no mouse and keyboard, but nothing about the monitor, I'll pastebin the logs
[02:20] <WebcamWonder> tritium: Thanks again :)
[02:20] <tritium> No problem.
[02:20] <LogicFan> is there any way to auto-arrange program icons on gnome-panel?
[02:21] <sanjud> RoastedTiresX-> umm do you read a tutorial on how to setup a samba ?
[02:21] <Nivenaya> huggintime, if you explain your problem here there's a better chance that someone here will be able to help.
[02:21] <Nivenaya> TomFromWkUp, that's a good idea and what I was about to suggest.
[02:21] <RoastedTiresX> sanjud - I've used samba for 3 years, that's what confuses me over what int he world happened.
[02:21] <drcrazy> is there something on Hardy that makes the Hardrives to work constantly ?
[02:21] <Nivenaya> TomFromWkUp, out of curiosity what happens when you boot the system and then plug the monitor in?
[02:22] <sanjud> RoastedTiresX-> you restarted samba after you made your changes?
[02:22] <Nivenaya> drcrazy, it could be your swap partition.
[02:22] <RoastedTiresX> sanjud - via command line, yeah I did
[02:22] <RoastedTiresX> I've restartedt he samba daemon at least 20 times this evening
[02:22] <drcrazy> guess it could
[02:22] <TomFromWkUp> Nivenaya everything works fine, flawlessly. ssh, login, gnome, etc.. vnc too
[02:22] <huggintime> ok i think i need a driver for a ati redon 7000 to run comiz but i cant6 find one any where
[02:22] <drcrazy> but, none is used.
[02:22] <TomFromWkUp> Nivenaya: http://pastebin.com/m342f4d3e
[02:22] <RoastedTiresX> sanjud - I wanted to create a "spare" user with a spare on my samba drive, so taht way when I work on computers, I back data up to it and it doesnt get mixed in with my own personal backups. Then I tried to get fancy and add comments, and now none of my shares are acceissbl
[02:23] <x4d> Is there a plugin for Rhythmbox to show the id3 Comment tag?
[02:23] <drcrazy> i got a gig of free memory
[02:23] <huggintime>  ok i think i need a driver for a diomand stealth ati redon 7000 to run comiz but i cant6 find one any where
[02:23] <Mike94287> I'm trying to install the Pidgin Purple Plugin Pack but when I run ./configure after I cd to the directory I get this error: "configure: error: The intltool scripts were not found. Please install intltool."
[02:23] <Mike94287> What should I do?
[02:23] <WebcamWonder> Another question: If I do the setup.py install <some_program>, what is a way to remove it?
[02:23] <kty> Nivenaya: interestingly, it does not seem to churn out any meaningful result; I may want to create a folder my self in this case . . .
[02:24] <WebcamWonder> Mike94287: sudo aptitude install build-essential, that command should fetch all the required programs
[02:24] <Nivenaya> TomFromWkUp, all that stuff works... even if you boot up without the monitor and add it later but -not- until you add the monitor?
[02:24] <Mike94287> webcamwonder: Okay I'll try that, Thanks.
[02:24] <sanjud> RoastedTiresX-> does it shows up when you do  smbclient -L //server -U user   ?
[02:24] <huggintime>  ok i think i need a driver for a diomand stealth ati redon 7000 to run comiz but i cant6 find one any where
[02:24] <WebcamWonder> !ati | huggintime
[02:24] <TomFromWkUp> Nivenaya, it seems to freeze or stop somewhere. I then reboot with a monitor plugged in and it works.
[02:25] <RoastedTiresX> sanjud - run that command @ terminal??
[02:25] <sanjud> RoastedTiresX-> yes
[02:25] <Nivenaya> TomFromWkUp, okay.  one moment.
[02:25] <WebcamWonder> TomFromWkUp: You can plug your monitor in while your PC is running :)
[02:26] <Fudge> can the amd64 810 ubuntu run on 64bit p4 cpus
[02:26] <TomFromWkUp> WebcamWonder, it does not work either :S
[02:26] <supertanker> Hey, I'm having a bit of an issue putting Ubuntu on this old server
[02:26] <yoophglup__> hey does anyone know how to get desktop sharing to work over the internet?
[02:26] <kty> Nivenaya: Thanks for you kindly advice. I would like to close the question right now and reask them in #gnome, as I guess they might have something like environment variables . . .
[02:26] <supertanker> A windows 98SE disk is detected by the SCSI bios as being bootable, but the Ubuntu disk is not, although they both say "A BOOTABLE DISK HAS BEEN DETECTED"
[02:26] <WebcamWonder> TomFromWkUp: That is oddly weird
[02:26] <supertanker> Any ideas?
[02:27] <RoastedTiresX> sanjud - why would a client machine be under "master"?
[02:27] <donerightit_com> yoophglup__: you have to modify the startup to auto-logon
[02:27] <sanjud> RoastedTiresX-> i dont know, i didnt set it up
[02:28] <donerightit_com> yoophglup__: then you have to modify either gnome or kde to have the password -- this is done by duplicating it on a diff local machine and copying the session info
[02:28] <donerightit_com> yoophglup__: then you have to restart the box to auto-logon and get it to start the session correctly...
[02:29] <donerightit_com> yoophglup__: all the details are available through google... I successfully did it last week
[02:29] <Fudge> anyone able to tell me if amd64bit edition runs on 64bit p4s
[02:30] <Nivenaya> kty: you got it.  sorry i couldn't be of help.
[02:30] <TomFromWkUp> I'll check the other logs..
[02:30] <drcrazy> test page printing failed :o/
[02:30] <yoophglup__> k
[02:30] <nellmathew> how come everytime i install windows - it works.. but i install grub afterwards and add windows to grub but it comes up as NTDLR missing?... i replace it in windows and then hal.exe is missing (but it's still there)
[02:31] <drcrazy> the error it gave me was: PID 6392 (/usr/lib/cups/filter/foomatic-rip) stopped with status 1!
[02:31] <TomFromWkUp> Which log files logs the startup process?
[02:31] <drcrazy> maybe i do need that pnm2ppa thingny.
[02:31] <PerryArmstrong> hey can anyone help me with my printer problem. I am not able to print
[02:31] <themoebius> hey, how can I restart my sound server after it's crashed?
[02:32] <nellmathew> how should i install windows AFTER ubuntu and have it working (both ubuntu and windows in grub)
[02:32] <themoebius> theres just this constant stuttering right now.
[02:32] <themoebius> nellmathew: you would have to reinstall grub since windows will overwrite your boot record
[02:32] <Nivenaya> TomFromWkUp, a couple questions about the log output if I may - first, is that /var/log/Xorg.0.conf or /var/log/Xorg.conf.old?
[02:32] <drcrazy> That was it!!!
[02:32] <drcrazy> needed pnm2ppa installed.
[02:32] <themoebius> nellmathew: which you can do by booting by booting from the livecd
[02:33] <tritium> drcrazy: oops.  ;)
[02:33] <drcrazy> it happens :D
[02:33] <drcrazy> i tried :)
[02:33] <drcrazy> now we both know :)
[02:33] <PerryArmstrong> hey can anyone help me with my printer problem. I am not able to print
[02:33] <TomFromWkUp> Nivenaya it's the .log.old
[02:33] <supertanker> Anyone have trouble installing Ubuntu with SCSI to an old Acer server?
[02:33] <drcrazy> PerryArmstrong, dont ask to ask.. just ask your question/problem
[02:34] <PerryArmstrong> i give the printer a job but it doesn't print
[02:34] <drcrazy> funny cups test page :) cute :)
[02:34] <nellmathew> themoebuis - so install windows first, and then ubuntu through livecd?
[02:34] <drcrazy> PerryArmstrong, it says the job fails ?
[02:34] <SineDeviance> hey all, i am having a serious issue
[02:35] <themoebius> nellmathew: yeah its easier to install windows first
[02:35] <PerryArmstrong> drcrazy; no i dont get any message...but it just doesn't print
[02:35] <nellmathew> alright thanks
[02:35] <bruce89> nellmathew: you can install windows last if you wanted to, but you'd have to reinstall grub
[02:35] <drcrazy> PerryArmstrong: try checking your cups logs, at /var/logs/cups/error_log
[02:35] <Fezzler> Is Intrepid still the most current release?
[02:35] <SineDeviance> i want to run a lamp server. i'm trying to get apache to run on port 80. it cant
[02:35] <Nivenaya> TomFromWkUp, okay.  the way it works is that when you boot, the log.old is deleted and Xorg.0.log is renamed to Xorg.0.log.old.  so this log is only from the failed boot if you'd only booted successfully once.
[02:35] <Nivenaya> is this the case?
[02:36] <Nivenaya> (once after the most recent failed boot, that is.)
[02:36] <sanjud> SineDeviance-> any error spewed out? you looked in the apache config file?
[02:36] <drcrazy> now i need to get that printer to work from my windows machine :)
[02:36] <TomFromWkUp> Nivenaya: yep I gave you the defective log
[02:36] <drcrazy> ill find out how :D
[02:36] <themoebius> so anyone know how to restart sound server without logging out and back in?
[02:36] <SineDeviance> sanjud, there is one, yes. when i try to run the daemon i get this: (13)Permission denied: make_sock: could not bind to address [::]:80
[02:36] <rdw200169> themoebius, you talking about pulseaudio?
[02:37] <MK13> how do I remove the wine entries in the application menus? they were left there after uninstallation
[02:37] <nightrid3r> SineDeviance how did you run apache
[02:37] <sanjud> SineDeviance-> are you running it as regular user?
[02:37] <Cotowar> MK13, did you do sudo aptitude purge wine?
[02:38] <SineDeviance> nightrid3r, i am running it as a user, not root
[02:38] <rdw200169> usually, on ubuntu, you run apache w/ /etc/init.d/apache2
[02:38] <MK13> nope, will try that, but what exactly does that command do?
[02:38] <PerryArmstrong> drcrazy; i checked it...it seems to be empty
[02:38] <nightrid3r> SineDeviance thats why, run it as root
[02:38] <supertanker> Do I need some sort of boot disk to install Ubuntu to a server with an Adaptec AIC-3880 SCSI adapter?
[02:38] <rdw200169> well, 'sudo /etc/init.d/apache2'
[02:38] <SineDeviance> nightrid3r, ok... uh how do i enable the root account in gOS?
[02:38] <SineDeviance> it's the same procedure as in ubuntu i'm guessing?
[02:38] <lstarnes> SineDeviance: you don't need to
[02:38] <nightrid3r> !root | SineDeviance
[02:38] <lstarnes> SineDeviance: use sudo
[02:38] <drcrazy> PerryArmstrong: do a test print page from your cups admin site: http://127.0.0.1:631
[02:38] <SineDeviance> yes i will
[02:39] <SineDeviance> i can't use sudo
[02:39] <lstarnes> SineDeviance: why not?
[02:39] <SineDeviance> i installed the lamp with bitnami lampstack
[02:39] <SineDeviance> thats why
[02:39] <SineDeviance> it's installed in my home dir
[02:39] <SineDeviance> so when i run as sudo, it can't use the config files
[02:40] <WebcamWonder> In the Packaging guide (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Complete#Packaging%20Tools), is the Pbuilder part completely separate from the building from source part, or is it a first step?
[02:40] <nightrid3r> !lamp | SineDeviance
[02:40] <uzee2> where can i check for failed user login attemps
[02:40] <PerryArmstrong> drcrazy; i just checked the completed jobs section ad it showed that whatever jobs i have given, it has put it up as completed
[02:40] <Cotowar> What does a kernel panic look like?
[02:40] <drcrazy> PerryArmstrong: im clueless :P
[02:40] <supertanker> Cotowar, a black screen of death, iirc.
[02:41] <Cotowar> thought so
[02:41] <supertanker> Only happened to me like twice.
[02:41] <PerryArmstrong> drcrazy; i tried test printing now...it didnt print
[02:41] <zaccour> hey im back
[02:41] <zaccour> braddcadd, you there?
[02:42] <Cotowar> occasionally my laptop goes completely unresponsive and the CAPS lock light blinks on and off. i have to hard restart
[02:42] <Cotowar> why is this?
[02:42] <smuikas> hello. I'm running fsck and it's prompting me: deleted inode ######## has zero dtime. fix?    if I fix, will it fix things or render my hdd more corrupted?
[02:43] <zaccour> after the first updates on 8.10 my wired internet stops working. how do i fix this?
[02:43] <supertanker> This is quite weird
[02:43] <smuikas> first time manual fsck user :x
[02:43] <Nivenaya> TomFromWkUp, neat.  It seems like X is starting fine, so I may be out of ideas.  Although - have you tried the closed-source nvidia driver?  it's vaguely possible that the nv driver chokes somewhere after xorg load when no monitor is present.
[02:43] <supertanker> When I have an Ubuntu boot CD in this server's CDROM, it freezes instead of booting; but a Win98CD works fine.
[02:43] <zaccour> i reinstalled ubuntu and i need to know which update NOT to install so i dont mess up my wired internet again
[02:44] <zaccour> can anyone help?
[02:44] <PerryArmstrong> i give the printer a job but it doesn't print can anyone help me out
[02:44] <sebsebseb> zaccour: that's odd
[02:44] <zaccour> i know
[02:44] <sebsebseb> zaccour: all the updates should be fine
[02:44] <drcrazy> PerryArmstrong: you mean, it prints (complete) but doesn't really print.
[02:44] <zaccour> yes, but after the first time i update the wired internet stops working
[02:44] <smuikas> perry get a printer that's not lazy? jk I don't know.. good luck :x
[02:45] <pogz> what is the counterpart application for limewire in ubuntu?
[02:45] <sebsebseb> pogz: Limewire lol  use torrents or Frostwire instead
[02:45] <fearful> zaccour, did you do a clean update or just updated?
[02:45] <Stralytic> unop, hey... back... got it working...
[02:45] <zaccour> i installed ubuntu, updated, restarted, wireless stopped working
[02:46] <MK13> zaccour: what wireless chipset do you use?
[02:46] <TomFromWkUp> Niveneya hum no, I'll try to install it.
[02:46] <zaccour> i dunno, its on a dell mini 9
[02:46] <Stralytic> unop, turned out linux-image-2.6.27-13-generic is broken, and so is linux-image-2.6.27-12-generic, but linux-image-2.6.27-11-generic worked
[02:46] <MK13> zaccour: and which is it, you have changed between saying ur wired and wireless ?
[02:47] <Stralytic> unop, i guess i should file a bug
[02:47] <zaccour> my wireless works just fine
[02:47] <zaccour> oops
[02:47] <zaccour> wired works just fine
[02:47] <TomFromWkUp> Nieveneya what's the package name? i dont rememebr it
[02:47] <zaccour> i mean wireless
[02:47] <zaccour> long day sorry
[02:47] <zaccour> wireless is ok, wired stops working after first update
[02:47] <roy_hobbs> Anyone know of a plugin for pidgin that allows people to share a drawing pad / whiteboard / whatever?
[02:48] <TomFromWkUp> I have  xserver-xorg-video-v installed
[02:48] <WebcamWonder> roy_hobbs: Doesn't exist AFAIK
[02:48] <MK13> zaccour: no problem, have you checked to make sure your /etc/network/interfaces doesn't get overwritten?
[02:48] <zaccour> MK13, how do i do that?
[02:48] <Fezzler> My wireless router seems to needed to be powered on and off a lot for laptop to connect?
[02:48] <roy_hobbs> WebcamWonder: do you know of any standalone applications that I can sketch something out live to a windows user?  Possibly even a website?
[02:49] <TomFromWkUp> None are showing in Hardware Drivers
[02:49] <Maahes> are there known issues with all versions of the nvidia binaries and kernel 2.6.27-13 generic?
[02:49] <RoastedTiresX> sanjud - you still here man?>
[02:49] <WebcamWonder> roy_hobbs: aMsn recently started developing a handwriting plugin for the MSN protocol, but it is barely working. I think there are a few sites, let me google
[02:49] <zaccour> MK13, how do I make sure my /etc/network/interfaces doesn't get overwritten?
[02:50] <roy_hobbs> That's what I'm doing, googling
[02:50] <SineDeviance> hmm yeah that's not going to work, i need to share the mysql db
[02:50] <Maahes> because I am getting beyond evil interactions with it, like binary data with strings in german being overwritten on my config files
[02:50] <tacosarecool> how do I convert a mp3 to a wav without losing metadata
[02:50] <SineDeviance> is there any way i can give my default user access to port 80?
[02:50] <MK13> zaccour: you could backup your current file - "sudo cp /etc/network/interfaces /etc/network/interfaces.bkk" then restore after update "sudo cp /etc/network/interfaces.bkk /etc/network/interfaces"
[02:50] <PerryArmstrong> drcrazy; yes
[02:50] <zaccour> MK13, what will that do?
[02:51] <yusri> hi
[02:51] <LogicFan> is there anyway to auto-arrange gnome-panel icons?  it seems they are always jumping around and require constant maintenance to keep organized
[02:51] <yusri> what i well do here
[02:51] <LogicFan> similar to http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/16975/
[02:51] <PerryArmstrong> drcrazy; i checked the completed jobs in the site you gave me and i found out that the jobs i gave last night were completed but infact it didnt print
[02:52] <MK13> zaccour: backs up then restores the interface file, if that is getting written over, but you will need to check by eye to see if the update has changed it - "gedit /etc/network/interfaces"
[02:52] <drcrazy> PerryArmstrong: as i said, im clueless to that problem
[02:52] <funkyHat> Can anyone tell me why this doesn't work? :/ `echo "blah ljkds iewou" | sed -e 's/+/%2B/g'`
[02:52] <PerryArmstrong> drcrazy; i didnt install the driver, the driver was installed by default, so will reinstalling help?
[02:52] <MK13> zaccour: and also check the list of updates' details to see what may interfere with your network connections
[02:53] <zaccour> MK what do i need to do right before and after updating?
[02:53] <jrib> funkyHat: what do you expect to happen?
[02:53] <drcrazy> PerryArmstrong: maybe !?
[02:53] <zaccour> MK13, what if i just install security updates?
[02:53] <Laundry> does anybody know about the error "SIOCSIFFLAGS: Cannot assign requested address" and why it's coming up when i try to do ifup
[02:53] <zaccour> MK13, im not sure what to look for in updates
[02:53] <funkyHat> jrib: well with that input string nothing, but it fails horribly instead
[02:53] <PerryArmstrong> drcrazy; do you know how to run it after downloading
[02:53] <jrib> funkyHat: pastebin.  Works fine here
[02:53] <Raije> hey is there any program i can use to record my screen into avi? thats easy to install/use? lol
[02:54] <drcrazy> PerryArmstrong: i really really don't know
[02:54] <Extreme_b> !info nfs-common 8.04
[02:54] <roy_hobbs> Raije: yes there is. lmao
[02:54] <Extreme_b> !info nfs-common
[02:54] <funkyHat> mm I've just tried it on another host and it's fine... maybe it's zsh that's breaking it :/
[02:54] <Raije> roy_hobbs, care to share? lol
[02:54] <PerryArmstrong> drcrazy; hey thank you for trying to help
[02:54] <jrib> funkyHat: I'm using zsh
[02:54] <O__o> how to add an admin user in terminal?
[02:54] <PerryArmstrong> i give the printer a job but it doesn't print can anyone help me out
[02:54] <roy_hobbs> Raije: i'm looking up the name
[02:54] <jrib> O__o: sudo adduser NAME_OF_USER admin
[02:55] <O__o> adduser: The user 'NAME_OF_USER' does not exist.
[02:55] <funkyHat> jrib: oh, no looks like it's screen :/ after I switched to irssi and then back to the other window it's worked fine, it just seems to temporarily break the output :/ odd
[02:55] <O__o> do i do adduser NAME first?
[02:55] <roy_hobbs> Raije: one is called istanbul, and one is called record my desktop.  i definitely liked one more than the other, let me figure out which
[02:55] <jrib> funkyHat: erm, I'm also using screen
[02:55] <MK13> zaccour: i wish i were on linux right now so I could check a few commands... but run the command "lspci | w
[02:55] <O__o> then adduser NAME admin ?
[02:55] <funkyHat> Maybe I have some broken settings in my .screenrc
[02:55] <Raije> roy_hobbs, haha thanks let me knwo and ill get that one
[02:55] <jrib> funkyHat: try « reset » and then again?
[02:55] <MK13> zaccour: forget the last part of that message
[02:55] <zaccour> ok
[02:56] <jrib> !who | O__o
[02:56] <zaccour> ok ok
[02:56] <jrib> O__o: does the user not yet exist?
[02:56] <O__o> not yet exist
[02:56] <funkyHat> http://paste2.org/p/162282
[02:56] <Nivenaya> TomFromWkUp, you running Intrepid?
[02:56] <jrib> O__o: then yes, you create him with « sudo adduser NAME_OF_USER »
[02:56] <O__o> wanna add an admin user call abc
[02:56] <O__o> sudo adduser abc?
[02:56] <zaccour> MK13, ok i ran lspci, what do i look for now?
[02:57] <O__o> then sudo adduser abc admin ?
[02:57] <jrib> O__o: yes
[02:57] <O__o> also can i do that in gui?
[02:57] <O__o> in preference?
[02:57] <jrib> O__o: system -> administration -> users and groups
[02:57] <musikgoat|main> admin -> users and groups
[02:57] <jrib> funkyHat: weird.  Does it happen with different sed expressions?
[02:57] <O__o> is there a one line command do both?
[02:58] <zaccour> MK13, i ran lspci what do i do now?
[02:58] <MK13> zaccour: run "lshw -C network" instead and post your results to a past bin
[02:58] <musikgoat|main> O__o: sudo adduser abc && sudo add user abc admin   :-P
[02:58] <jrib> O__o: read « man adduser » or see what musikgoat|main said
[02:58] <roy_hobbs> Raije: sudo apt-get install gtk-recordmydesktop
[02:58] <roy_hobbs> Raije: it works very nicely
[02:59] <Raije> gtk?
[02:59] <O__o> i man adduser already
[02:59] <TomFromWkUp> Nievenaya: yes
[02:59] <O__o> dont understand because there are not much examples there
[02:59] <roy_hobbs> Raije: it saves to ogg though, so does istanbul as a matter of fact
[02:59] <funkyHat> jrib: it seems to be the % character that's making it happen
[02:59] <O__o> can i use admin as username?
[02:59] <bruce89> theora
[02:59] <jrib> O__o: well if you read it, it will tell you about the --add_extra_groups switch
[02:59] <O__o> can i do sudo adduser admin admin?
[02:59] <Raije> roy_hobbs, okey thanks a lot.. I'll brb
[02:59] <O__o> jrib, i aint computer geek.  those are not normal english
[02:59] <roy_hobbs> Raije: yeah gtk-recordmydesktop you can just do recordmydesktop but it's nicer with the GUI because you can click on a window to record only that, or draw a box to record
[03:00] <gwark> my wireless doesnt work.  Can i use the restricted driver included in fiesty fox for hardy heron??   i'll need a hand tho.... any help greatly apprecited
[03:00] <zaccour> MK13, it said i should run that program as a super user
[03:01] <MK13> zaccour: then run - "sudo lshw -C network"
[03:01] <jrib> funkyHat: try with a cleas zshrc and screenrc I guess to see if those are the culprits
[03:01] <jrib> clean even
[03:01] <TomFromWkUp> Nivenaya, if you wanna see more logs: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1092912
[03:01] <jrib> O__o: but if you aren't willing to sit down and read a man page it begs the question why you want to use the command at all instead of just using the GUI
[03:02] <thelordmortis> how do i get logrotate to not rotate some logs for me ?
[03:02] <roy_hobbs> Raije: actually, you know what, their almost identical, but i'm pretty sure it was RecordMyDesktop that I ended up appreciating more.
[03:02] <Azazel-AZ> help needed.  School work due tomorrow and instructor is using .pptx which I have never seen before, and the web says open office can't read it.  Is there anything for ubuntu?
[03:03] <jrib> Azazel-AZ: try google docs maybe
[03:03] <musikgoat|main> thelordmortis: you can move things out of /etc/logrotate.d/
[03:03] <O__o> jrib, why dont u stfu if u arent answering someone's question
[03:03] <thelordmortis> musikgoat|main: thanks!
[03:03] <huggintime_> what all do i need to conect to some one els comp
[03:03] <jrib> O__o: wow.  If you recall, I did answer your question.  Please change your attitude here.
[03:03] <bruce89> !ohmy > O__o
[03:03] <zaccour> MK13, how do i pastebin?
[03:04] <musikgoat|main> !paste | MK13
[03:04] <musikgoat|main> sorry @zaccour
[03:04] <jtaji> Azazel-AZ: did you give it a try? because I tried a .docx with openoffice 2.4 recently and it worked
[03:04] <coreyman> javac: command not found.
[03:04] <coreyman> how do i fix this?
[03:05] <bruce89> coreyman: openjdk-6-jdk
[03:05] <zaccour> mk http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m710a36be
[03:05] <huggintime_> bruce89: how do i network conect to some els comp
[03:05] <coreyman> bruce89 could have sworn i already downloaded that
[03:05] <BlinkyToon> Azazel-AZ, try over in  #Openoffice.org   I have had no problem with other MS x files but have not had that PPTX yet
[03:06] <bruce89> coreyman: sudo dpkg-reconfigure openjdk-6-jdk
[03:06] <Raije> roy_hobbs, hey, back, sorry, how do i stop it from recording?
[03:06] <Azazel-AZ> thanks
[03:06] <coreyman> bruce89 guess i didnt have it.
[03:06] <napple> what does actually consume my RAM: virtual, resident, writable, or shared memory. All of them show completely different values. I basically want to find out how many of my apps can run in parallel if I have X MB RAM.
[03:06] <roy_hobbs> Raije: you see the icon in the notification area?
[03:06] <zaccour> MK13, i haven't updated yet, i need to know what i need to do before i do
[03:06] <bruce89> coreyman: technically you should install default-jdk
[03:06] <Raije> roy_hobbs, yep haha thanks i got er
[03:06] <roy_hobbs> Raije: i think one click pauses two clicks stops
[03:07] <braddcadd> zaccour, i'm here
[03:07] <zaccour> ok
[03:07] <Raije> roy_hobbs, what i can watch that file with, will vnc play that?
[03:07] <roy_hobbs> of course
[03:07] <funkyHat> jrib: yeah, seems to work fine with a clean zsh, I think it's my fancy preexec () that breaks :(
[03:07] <Raije> roy_hobbs, I just dislike that i can't fun it as root :(
[03:07] <zaccour> i just need to know how to keep the first update from messing up my wired internet
[03:07] <dermoth> Hi there. I'm trying to backport with prevu and it seems to be lacking documentation - anyone could point me to how I can use it on "customized" packages? I need to update dependencies
[03:07] <zaccour> it always does
[03:07] <roy_hobbs> Raije: huh?
[03:07] <Raije> roy_hobbs, vlc, you can't rub that as root...
[03:08] <roy_hobbs> Raije: i wasn' taware of that, but why would you want to?
[03:08] <zaccour> MK13, did ya get that link?
[03:08] <braddcadd> zaccour, i have no idea which one...can you give me a list?  or can you select one package at a time until it crashes?  or can you just not update?
[03:08] <bruce89> dermoth: it isn't that easy
[03:08] <WebcamWonder> dermoth: Update dependencies? Modify the debian control file. Look for the MOTU packaging guide, or Debian's beginner's packaging guide
[03:08] <roy_hobbs> Raije: vlc can convert, but if it's not too big, and not personal, i really like this website: http://www.mediaconverter.org/
[03:08] <Raije> roy_hobbs, well I just have BT on my latop, I really only use it for pentesting / research / learning & watching movies late at night haha, so why reboot back to windows if i could do it in bt..
[03:09] <zaccour> MK13, did ya get that pastebin?
[03:09] <bruce89> dermoth: you download the package you want with dget
[03:09] <dermoth> bruce89, I build packages in the past
[03:09] <redheat> hi everyone
[03:09] <roy_hobbs> Raije: i still don't understand your root issue, and what's BT?
[03:09] <MK13_> zaccour: nope. missed it
[03:09] <com-7> hay......
[03:09] <bruce89> dermoth: what do you mean by update dependencies?
[03:09] <dermoth> bruce89, I just need to know if I can use prevu on modified packages
[03:10] <Raije> roy_hobbs, sorry haha, my root issue is that if I download vlc, it won't let you run VLC from root account
[03:10] <bruce89> oh
[03:10] <bruce89> I don't think so
[03:10] <redheat> folks, I'm reinstallign Ubuntu 8.10 on my system and when the installation came to the part where I should I choose my partition, it showed all of my harddrives as unallocated?
[03:10] <redheat> can anyone help me with this problem
[03:10] <dermoth> bruce89, trying to backport and the upstream package require slightly higher version of core libs
[03:10] <roy_hobbs> raije yeah but why do you need to, you shouldn't need to
[03:10] <huggintime_> bruce89: can u help
[03:10] <yi`zhi> hi everyone!
[03:11] <Raije> roy_hobbs, i have bt (a distro based on ubuntu) so it has no softwear for watching videos
[03:11] <zaccour> MK13, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m710a36be
[03:11] <dermoth> bruce89, I want to try to compile against the current ones
[03:11] <zaccour> MK13, did ya get it that time?
[03:11] <napple> what does actually consume my RAM: virtual, resident, writable, or shared memory. All of them show completely different values. I basically want to find out how many of my apps can run in parallel if I have X MB RAM.
[03:11] <bruce89> dermoth: I'm not sure if pbuilder can take previously built packages as build dependencies
[03:11] <roy_hobbs> Raije: what does bt stand for?
[03:12] <yi`zhi> i have a quick question. i have solid state drive and suppose the power becomes off suddenly (the plug is removed), what will be the effects on the computer?
[03:12] <Raije> roy_hobbs, BackTrack
[03:12] <musikgoat|main> Raije: is backtrack really based on ubuntu?
[03:12] <roy_hobbs> Raije: oh, i thought that was slackware derived
[03:12] <dermoth> bruce89, I'm talking about building the upstream package with the current (old) libs
[03:12] <Raije> musikgoat|main, the new one bt4 beta, i believe it is
[03:12] <Gartral1> roy_hobbs: if your talking about OSes, BackTrack, in networking terms, it BitTorrent
[03:12] <musikgoat|main> Raije: have you asked in #remote-exploit?
[03:13] <drcrazy> Im almost all setup, but to get my windows to be able to use my CUPS printer, it seems that I get a 403 error when browsing the :631 site.
[03:13] <dermoth> bruce89, i'll look into pbuilder, thanks
[03:13] <musikgoat|main> as the question is more pertinent to that channel
[03:13] <bruce89> dermoth: prevu is a frontend to pbuilder
[03:13] <zaccour> can anyone tell me how to keep the first update from making my wired internet stop working?
[03:13] <Zopiac> (using gnome-do) when I select an application (it is an executable script in a certain folder) it used to just run the program. now, randomly, it tries to open a script in a completely different folder! moved that script and when I select the script I do want, nothing happens. any suggestions?
[03:13] <Raije> musikgoat|main, yea I have no-one was around and or answering, I really just need a ubuntu video player that can play .ogv files since I cannot run VLC as root
[03:13] <MK13_> zaccour: congrats, u own a Broadcom wireless adapter, the same as me (also my name changed, it is now "MK13_"     D:)
[03:13] <Gartral1> evolution thinks NewYork time zone is UTC -4:00, BUG
[03:14] <roy_hobbs> raije http://www.mediaconverter.org/
[03:14] <musikgoat|main> Raije: and totem doesn't play it?
[03:14] <zaccour> Raije, have ya tried totem-xine? its more stable than vlc from my experience
[03:14] <jtaji> Gartral1: it is right now, we are in DST
[03:14] <Raije> I'll try that right now.
[03:14] <jwoffenden> Hey everyone - I have an Ubuntu VPS and I need to give users access to the files in their home directories from OSX and Windows clients
[03:14] <bruce89> Raije: what codecs are used?
[03:14] <jwoffenden> I don't want to resort to FTP
[03:14] <WebcamWonder> Raije: mplayer FTW!
[03:14] <jwoffenden> ideas for me?
[03:14] <zaccour> MK13, ok, what do i do to keep the updates from screwing up my wired internet?
[03:14] <yi`zhi> perhaps daylight savings, jtaji.
[03:14] <Gartral1> jtaji: ohh, yea, they switch 2 days ago, my bad
[03:15] <jrib> jwoffenden: ssh
[03:15] <musikgoat|main> jwoffenden: smb/samba?
[03:15] <Azazel-AZ> thanks anyhow, and no I don't know if I'm the latest version but I'll check it tomorrow as the laptop will also have to be updated.  Got to get back to school work
[03:15] <jwoffenden> NFS would be nice if I could work out some username/password auth, samba is a pain but if it's my best bet I'll do it, and SFTP requires 3rd party clients for mac and win
[03:15] <WebcamWonder> jwoffenden: sftp? They have free clients for both OS X and Windows
[03:15] <musikgoat|main> jwoffenden: jrib's suggestion is safest but slo
[03:15] <jrib> jwoffenden: not for mac
[03:15] <MK13_> zaccour: which distro are you using?
[03:15] <zaccour> Ubuntu
[03:15] <jwoffenden> musikgoat|main: I agree but it still needs 3rd party clients
[03:15] <zaccour> 8.10
[03:15] <musikgoat|main> jwoffenden: you've covered the options
[03:15] <tritium> MK13_: hopefully ubuntu, given the channel topic ;)
[03:16] <jwoffenden> musikgoat|main: I was afraid of that.  So you favor SMB over NFS?
[03:16] <musikgoat|main> jwoffenden: NFS has less overhead than samba
[03:16] <jwoffenden> jrib: I haven't had any luck getting finder to talk with sftp
[03:16] <baz> i have a brand-new core i7 desktop with a 1gb 3d videocard and audio visualizations (like in totem when u play a song) are still jumpy - are visualizations meant to be run on mainframes only????????????
[03:16] <musikgoat|main> jwoffenden: which equals faster transfers
[03:17] <jrib> jwoffenden: oh, maybe I'm wrong.  I admit I use fugu.  But you have scp/ssh in a shell by default anyway
[03:17] <jwoffenden> musikgoat|main: That's a bonus, but security is my main concern there.  Is it easy to sync NFS's usernames/passwords with my unix ones?
[03:17] <zaccour> MK13, can you help me?
[03:17] <napple> what does actually consume my RAM: virtual, resident, writable, or shared memory. All of them show completely different values. I basically want to find out how many of my apps can run in parallel if I have X MB RAM.
[03:17] <MK13_> I meant the numerical version :O
[03:17] <jwoffenden> jrib: yeah, I'm dealing with a bunch of artists and managers - even getting them to install fugu would result in griping
[03:17] <musikgoat|main> jwoffenden: sorry, cant say, haven't used unix in a while
[03:17] <bruce89> napple: hopefully resident
[03:18] <jwoffenden> jrib: I want to avoid FTP to keep passwords from transmitting in plaintext
[03:18] <jwoffenden> musikgoat|main: by unix I mean their system accounts on the Linux machine
[03:18] <MK13_> does any one know a way zaccour could easily get a text version of the available updates so I could check them for what messes up his wired internet?
[03:18] <drcrazy> am i missing the lppasswd command at this point, to be able to access the cups 631 site remotely ?
[03:18] <jwoffenden> musikgoat|main: so that, for instance, if I go in and change their password via SSH it's also changed for NFS
[03:19] <musikgoat|main> jwoffenden: what about webdav?  i don't know if that is native to mac
[03:19] <jwoffenden> musikgoat|main: I haven't looked into that option
[03:19] <nanotube> jwoffenden: just joined, so haven't caught your whole discussion - but you can use sftp, to which gftp is a good frontend.
[03:19] <drcrazy> this is a possible solution if found, but I'm not sure it if there is too much addusers http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-407716.html and if lppasswd replaces those instructions.
[03:19] <tritium> MK13_: ah, you meant the release
[03:19] <jwoffenden> jrib: thanks for the suggestion though.  I've been using SSH for all my linux to linux stuff and most of my linux to mac stuff at home :-)  It's a pleasure
[03:19] <cjae> I thought gparted was fairly good
[03:19] <MK13_> tritium: yeah
[03:20] <cjae> must be just from the live disk
[03:20] <cjae> disc
[03:20] <jwoffenden> nanotube: thanks for the suggestion - in this case a requirement I have is that Mac and Windows clients can connect without needing a 3rd party client
[03:20] <bruce89> cjae: nice
[03:20] <jwoffenden> nanotube: so it's looking like SMB may be my only option.  Sad.
[03:20]  * cjae bows
[03:20] <nanotube> jwoffenden: ah mmm yea, i guess smb it is, then. or maybe nfs? can win/mac do nfs?
[03:20] <MK13_> zaccour: i am checking out something, please bear w/ me ( i am working on dialup here)
[03:21] <jwoffenden> nanotube: mac can, but my searches are not looking good for Windows
[03:21] <zaccour> ok thanks
[03:21] <redheat> folks, again if anyone can help me with problem, while installing ubuntu 8.10 the partition on my hardrive, only one out of three harddrives is shown in its entirety as unallocated...
[03:21] <nanotube> jwoffenden: hmm... well good luck... :)
[03:21] <nanotube> jwoffenden: how about http?
[03:21] <TuGa> hello!
[03:22] <jwoffenden> nanotube: that's one thing everyone has, yes, but it's not quite as flexible as just being able to drag and drop a folder of 3,000 files and make it work
[03:22] <zaccour> redheat, did you try disconnecting the 2 that show, installing on the one remaining, then connecting the other 2 agand and try?
[03:22] <TuGa> i'm trying to install ubunto to a laptop that as 2 HDD
[03:22] <cjae> anyway trying to resize an external hd 500 GB down to 420 to make room for ps3 backup but gparted has been running an awful long time
[03:22] <jwoffenden> nanotube: part of the reason I'm setting this server up is that the company I just joined got tired of using http interfaces to share files, and is asking for ftp
[03:22] <nanotube> jwoffenden: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTP_File_Server
[03:23] <TuGa> i have walready created a partition ext3 on sda5 an a swap partition on sdb5
[03:23] <jwoffenden> nanotube: reading - thanks
[03:23] <rodrigo23> does anyone uses evolution in here?
[03:23] <cjae> shrink 500 ntfs to 420 ntfs and create new 70 whatever fat32
[03:24] <TuGa> but wen it starts the wizard to install it doesnt let me pick the one i want.
[03:24] <TuGa> any ideia?
[03:24] <RoastedTiresX> is there any reason wy I can't use the username "spare" with samba? I tried to use spare and it wouldn't work. But when I created a new account matching "spare" 100% but named "spareagain" it worked just fine. Why is spare not usable??????????
[03:24] <redheat> Folks, does Ubuntu support AHCI, in other words, SCSI?
[03:24] <drcrazy> nevermind, i just needed to fix the allow tags ;)
[03:24] <baz> it is very hard to copy a file into a folder by dragging thru nautlius, because unless the destination is empty, it will always want to be put into a subfolder of the destination - is there a trick to avoid this?
[03:24] <RoastedTiresX> redheat - I'm running AHCI now with Ubuntu 8.10
[03:25]  * drcrazy smiles
[03:25] <musikgoat|main> jwoffenden: to answer your question earlier, the only auth info i can find regarding nfs is via kerberos, which can get tricky to implement, but is doable:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NFSv4Howto  as there is a PAM module that connects with krb
[03:25] <cjae> shouldn't take more than half an hours right
[03:25] <redheat> Roasted, Ubuntu reported my harddrive as unallocated don't know why?
[03:25] <RoastedTiresX> unallocated - did you format it?
[03:25] <WebcamWonder> baz: Drag into the whitespace? Alternatively you the commandline ;)
[03:25] <RoastedTiresX> unallocated means it doesn't have a file system on it
[03:25] <redheat> nope,
[03:25] <cjae> !ext4
[03:25] <zaccour> if i install just the security updates will my system stay stable?
[03:25] <cjae> ! info ext4
[03:25] <RoastedTiresX> redheat - is it an empty hard drive? Like do you have any data on it?
[03:25] <redheat> he can see the partitions,  when I try it
[03:26] <tritium> cjae: that'll be available in jaunty
[03:26] <redheat> nope, it has partitions on it
[03:26] <MK13_> zaccour: yeah, it should
[03:26] <cjae> !info ext4
[03:26]  * bruce89 has stopped ignoring ubottu
[03:26] <bruce89> !ext4
[03:26] <zaccour> MK13, if i install just security updates will flash work fine?
[03:26] <cjae> tritium: tis stable in kernel now right?
[03:26] <MK13_> zaccour: at least in respect to your wired
[03:26] <RoastedTiresX> redheat - what file system is on that hard drive... what partitions, etc
[03:26] <ksool_> Is there anyway to stop network-manager-openvpn from clobbering the routes that are handed down from my openvpn server?
[03:26] <baz> WebcamWonder, the problem is when the destination is already full of folders... in windows u can find whitespace in between the folder - not in nautilus tho
[03:26] <tritium> cjae: I believe so.
[03:26] <MK13_> zaccour: yea, I believe so
[03:26] <juan> how to get everything running
[03:27] <bruce89> cjae: yes
[03:27] <juan> exit
[03:27] <WebcamWonder> baz: Depends on your view of nautilus... if you prefer the icons view with large icons, there is lots of free space
[03:27] <zaccour> ok im gonna keep xchat open and look to see if anyone messages me by occasionally looking for that red flash on the lower tab. if anyone messages me about this i will check and look. until then, security updates only it is
[03:27] <jwoffenden> musikgoat|main: Thanks for the link.  Yeah I don't mind if it's hard for me to implement - I can go through the trouble.
[03:27] <baz> WebcamWonder, thats a good point, the view matters, i am a list kinda guy - my brain can't handle icon view quickly :)
[03:28] <jwoffenden> musikgoat|main: as long as it's brainless for the end user
[03:28] <Nivenaya> woffenden?!  how dare you show your face here!
[03:28] <redheat> ok, I have 4 partition, three primaries, reserved for windows 7, another one for my current OS windws vista, and a third one for windows server 2008, all NTFS, and the fourth partition which is, of course, secondary, is divided into logical drives each of which is divided into three partitions and each has a ext3 partition along with a swap, I reserved them for my  Linux OS
[03:28] <nanotube> jwoffenden: also consider webdav: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebDAV
[03:28] <jwoffenden> Nivenaya: ??
[03:28] <musikgoat|main> jwoffenden: as far as i remember about windows, nfs is supported with some unix_progs package that can be installed from the windows cd, or its installed by default in Pro versions, i think
[03:29] <RoastedTiresX> redheat - Ubuntu should recognize any file system that windows deals with, to my knowledge... especiallyw ith FAT32 and NTFS....
[03:29] <RoastedTiresX> I don't see why it wouldn't pick up the drive.
[03:29] <jwoffenden> musikgoat|main: thanks :-) I was hoping that... I'm pretty sure most of them will have pro versions
[03:29] <zaccour> MK13_, thanks anyhow
[03:29] <jwoffenden> nanotube: HttpFS is rad....
[03:29] <redheat> when I inserted the Ubuntu live CD and tried to install, I forgot to say, I have three harddrives, the other two are just for backups, and they all are conntected using AHCI, I have a gigabyt GA-965P
[03:29] <MK13_> zaccour: no prob, I am still reseaching it
[03:29] <zaccour> MK13_, if you or anyone messages me i will see the red flash on the lower tab and will check it
[03:29] <redheat> exactly, that's my point RoastedTirex, and it gets weirder
[03:29] <musikgoat|main> jwoffenden, nanotube:  i'm liking this HFS too, i'm going to read more on it
[03:30] <jwoffenden> Nivenaya: you confused me :-)
[03:30] <zaccour> ok thanks me too
[03:30] <Nivenaya> jwoffenden, not hard.  :)
[03:30] <jwoffenden> musikgoat|main: yeah, really.
[03:30] <nanotube> jwoffenden: musikgoat|main it's an interesting idea, if nothing else. :)
[03:30] <redheat> when i use the live CD as a live CD, I mean I don't install ubuntu, it sees all my partition on my harddrive, no problem at all only during the installation it tells my that my whole harddrives is unallocated?
[03:31] <reival> any one running a ubuntu on live usb  on p4 with 2gb ram or so .. is it fast ? wana know if worth the effort :)
[03:31] <Nivenaya> redheat, is your drive NTFS?
[03:31] <LakesProse> can't understand difference between an daemon being standalone or 'integrated'
[03:31] <redheat> So I inserted Gparted live CD, and checked my harddrives, and guess what it reported the same thing, no parttion on my harddrives, Nienaya, it's a combination of NTFS and ext3 reserved for linux..
[03:31] <musikgoat|main> jwoffenden: but it looks like a 3rd party software is needed to upload, the whole point of this endevour is for upload and download capabilities for the end users right?
[03:31] <Nivenaya> redheat, if so I'd assume that you've got some kind of filesystem error going on.  Boot into windows and run chkdisk -f.
[03:32] <zaccour> MK13_, i am really disappointed in canonical for allowing this flawed update to be released
[03:32] <musikgoat|main> jwoffenden: in respect to that hfs
[03:32] <Nivenaya> redheat, ah.  is the system still bootable?
[03:32] <tritium> zaccour: which flawed update?
[03:32] <redheat> anyhow, I inserted Opensuse 11.1 live CD, good idea I'll try that Nienaya..yeah, I 'm actually writing to you from it..
[03:32] <jwoffenden> musikgoat|main: yep :(
[03:32] <musikgoat|main> Nivenaya: redheat  its chkdsk
[03:32] <zaccour> tritium, the one that makes my wired internet stop working
[03:32] <redheat> now this is the weird part, the Opensuse 11.1 sees my partition during the installation with no problems at all..
[03:32] <jwoffenden> musikgoat|main, nanotube - what do you think of samba tunneled over pptp?
[03:32] <MK13_> zaccour: and you are sure it is the update doing it, has it done it with the same update more than once?
[03:32] <jwoffenden> cause I don't want to stick up an SMB share on the bare internet
[03:32] <jwoffenden> (for obvious reasons)
[03:33] <tritium> zaccour: do you have a bug number?  We've not seen any reports of problems.
[03:33] <redheat> and Gparted reportes the same problem as Ubuntu..it is something that has to do with gparted?
[03:33] <zaccour> yes, it only does it after updating and rebooting
[03:33] <musikgoat|main> jwoffenden: ouch, transfer speeds will be crappy, and users would have to "tunnel" and disconnect unless routes were setup correctly
[03:33] <Nivenaya> musikgoat|main, right.  Windows-fu is weak.
[03:33] <zaccour> thats why i reinstalled ubuntu, to figure out which one it is and uncheck it
[03:34] <jwoffenden> :(
[03:34]  * jwoffenden cries
[03:34] <Nivenaya> oh, man up Jon.
[03:34] <RoastedTiresX> no, gparted shouldnt have a problem with it
[03:34] <nanotube> jwoffenden: can you just put the smb on the intranet, and have everyone from outside have to connect to the network with ipsec? that's how corporate setups do it - all remote access goes through an ipsec client that connects the remote user to the corporate lan, and then it's "as if" they are on the lan.
[03:34] <redheat> just don't know what to do? I'll try to run that check -f and see if it works, my thoughts too RoastedTireX, but I don't know why it's happening?
[03:34] <tritium> zaccour: are you certain an update is to blame?
[03:34] <jwoffenden> Alright well musikgoat|main, jrib, nanotube  - thanks, sorry to chat and run but the cafe I'm at is shutting down
[03:34] <zaccour> yes
[03:34] <jwoffenden> Nivenaya: .... you're creeping me out :-)
[03:35] <musikgoat|main> jwoffenden: good luck
[03:35] <nanotube> jwoffenden: don't know off the top of my head... but i'm sure there are foss ipsec clients for just about any os.
[03:35] <zaccour> its just fine, until i reboot my computer after updating
[03:35] <nanotube> jwoffenden: good luck :)
[03:35] <Nivenaya> redheat, actually.  hum!  i think I had that problem once.  is this an external drive or a PATA drive plugged in through a SATA converter?
[03:35] <zaccour> maybe i should install all updates then troubleshoot it from there?
[03:35] <MK13_> zaccour: what exactly messes up (eg. network interface isn't detected anymore ( the lights don't flash), or it detects it but won't connect through it?
[03:35] <redheat> I mean why does it work underopnesuse, and it doesn't under gparted? and why did this happen when I operated all my SATA II connections to AHCI?
[03:35] <tritium> zaccour: but we've not seen any reports of problems.  sounds like a very isolated case, unfortunately for you
[03:35] <tritium> Which NIC do you have?
[03:36] <zaccour> yeah
[03:36] <RoastedTiresX> when I had issues with AHCI it was when I didn't install Ubuntu AS AHCI
[03:36] <cjae> yeah gparted it done, now to see how slow ps3 dumps are
[03:36] <zaccour> im just gonna install security updates until the beta release comes out
[03:36] <RoastedTiresX> like I installed Ubuntu with legacy and switched over to AHCI and I had problems... so I did a fresh install with AHCI mode
[03:36] <RoastedTiresX> thats the only AHCI related issue I had... and this issue was the same when I ran XP too...
[03:36] <tritium> zaccour: beta?  Are you running jaunty?
[03:36] <zaccour> i dont have this problem in 9.4 alpha, so it seems it is being fixed
[03:36] <zaccour> not right now
[03:36] <zaccour> i was, then i didnt have that problem
[03:36] <redheat> same here RoastedTiresX
[03:36] <Nivenaya> redheat, it seems likely to me that whatever two distros you're using handle your disk controller differently.
[03:37] <tritium> zaccour: which NIC?
[03:37] <MK13_> zaccour: how exactly is the wired connect broken?
[03:37] <zaccour> it doesn't connect
[03:37] <redheat> exactly, one of them uses gparted, Ubuntu, the other opensuse uses something else..
[03:37] <zaccour> its displayed, but won't connect
[03:37] <MK13_> zaccour: but it IS detected still by the OS?
[03:37] <zaccour> MK13_, so it seems
[03:37] <tritium> zaccour: I've asked you twice now which NIC you have.
[03:37] <musikgoat|main> redheat: opensuse doesn't use gparted? o.O
[03:37] <zaccour> its probably just a simple command or script thing, just dont know what exactly
[03:37] <redheat> I'm thinking of doing this, revert back to normal SATA not AHCI, and then isntall Ubuntu, and then go back to AHCI, and see how it goes from there
[03:38] <zaccour> tritium, whats NIC?
[03:38] <MK13_> zaccour: you should go ahead, update, then troubleshoot so the people helping you can know the symptoms
[03:38] <tritium> zaccour: network interface card
[03:38] <redheat> yeah, I think so musikgoatiman?
[03:38] <zaccour> i dont know
[03:38] <MK13_> tritium: this is from zaccour -"http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m710a36be"
[03:38] <tritium> zaccour: lspci, or lshw -c network.  Either one should tell you.
[03:38] <redheat> because the problem happened again when I inserted the gparted CD? it also reported my entire harddrive as unallocated
[03:38] <tritium> Thanks, MK13_.
[03:38] <MK13_> tritium: np
[03:39] <musikgoat|main> redheat: interesting http://en.opensuse.org/Parted_Magic  it looks like a front end to gparted anyways,  both use libparted
[03:39] <tritium> zaccour: please paste your /etc/network/interfaces
[03:39] <MK13_> zaccour: i think your settings just got messed up in ^^ that file
[03:39] <zaccour> tritium, how do i do that?
[03:40] <MK13_> tritium: i already told him he should back that file up then replace after the update to see if that works
[03:40] <tritium> zaccour: cat /etc/network/interfaces, then paste as you did before
[03:40] <tritium> MK13_: ok, thanks.
[03:40] <tritium> zaccour: also, in the same paste, please include your /etc/resolv.conf
[03:40] <zaccour> tritium, do i type that in the terminal?
[03:40] <tritium> zaccour: yes
[03:40] <RoastedTiresX> Is there ANY reason at all why I wouldn't be able to use "Spare" as a useraccount with Samba???
[03:41] <zaccour> how do i do it in the same paste?
[03:41] <redheat> musikgoatiman, I'm tlaking during the installation..? not as a package included how both of them handle my harddrive under AHCI differently, for examplke, gparted and Ubuntu's installer both saw my harddrive as unallocated, while opensuse saw it as it is,and I'm talking during the installation only, becauese if used ubuntu as a live CD, it sees all my partition as they are no changes and it reports them correctly
[03:41] <tritium> zaccour: cat /etc/resolv.conf, and just copy/paste it after the text you pasted for your /etc/network/interfaces
[03:42] <redheat> anyhow gonna try it again and see Nivenaya, RoastedTiresX, folks, thank you so much truly appreciate it..
[03:42] <RoastedTiresX> no problem, good luck!!
[03:43] <zaccour> whats those commands again?
[03:43] <zaccour> i think i did it wrong it said command not found
[03:43] <tritium> zaccour: cat /etc/network/interfaces, and cat /etc/resolv.conf
[03:43] <zaccour> do i hit enter between the commands?
[03:44] <Patrick_O> Hello. I have a script I'm trying to run at start up. It starts three programs. I used the '&' character at the end of each line that starts a program so that the scipt would move on and start the others. This works fine If I run the script from the terminal. However, when it runs at boot up only the first job gets started and the next job won't begin until I end the first. Reading some tutorials, it seems as if 'job control' is no
[03:44] <Patrick_O> t active when I boot. What can I do to resolve this?
[03:44] <MK13_> tritium, zaccour: these sound similar, but these are upgrades from 8.04 to 8.10 "http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1081385" "http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-hardware-18/no-wired-internet-connection-in-ubuntu-8.10-684272/"
[03:44] <RoastedTiresX> no problem, good luck!!
[03:44] <RoastedTiresX> Is there ANY reason at all why I wouldn't be able to use "Spare" as a useraccount with Samba???
[03:44] <bruce89> no
[03:45] <storrgie> anyone know of good software to do networking/computer diagrams in ubuntu?
[03:45] <bruce89> !inkscape
[03:45] <bruce89> !dia
[03:45] <bruce89> !xfig
[03:45] <storrgie> bruce89: does it have icons built into it... or do i need to go find some?
[03:45] <seamus_> what is the fix to get the default annoying uuid to work?
[03:45] <zaccour> trit robert@robert-laptop:~$ cat /etc/network/interfaces
[03:45] <zaccour> auto lo
[03:45] <zaccour> iface lo inet loopback
[03:45] <zaccour> robert@robert-laptop:~$ cat /etc/resolv.conf
[03:45] <zaccour> # Generated by NetworkManager
[03:46] <FloodBot2> zaccour: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:46] <zaccour> domain domain.invalid
[03:46] <Killabeez> hey so 8.10 is the newest version of ubuntu?
[03:46] <jtaji> Patrick_O: job control only works in interactive shells, the solution is just drop the &, you don't need it from startup scripts
[03:46] <sebsebseb> untill end of April yes
[03:46] <jrib> seamus_: be more specific as it wfm
[03:46] <musikgoat|main> Killabeez: currently, yes
[03:46] <bruce89> storrgie: dia probably does
[03:46] <rww> Killabeez: Yes. The next version (Jaunty) is coming out in April.
[03:46] <macman> hey all .. can somone do a ls -l on there Desktop directory .. i acidently changed my permissions
[03:46] <storrgie> i missed that
[03:46] <storrgie> can u say again?
[03:46] <zaccour> tritium, did you get that?
[03:46] <storrgie> window closed
[03:46] <Patrick_O> Thanks jtaji. I'll give that a try.
[03:46] <tritium> zaccour: don't paste it here.  use pastebin
[03:47] <rww> macman: drwxr-xr-x
[03:47] <storrgie> bruce89: can u say again?
[03:47] <macman> drwx------ 2    501 dialout 4096 2009-03-10 20:44 Desktop
[03:47] <macman> lol
[03:47] <macman> rwat--, what is that 744 ?
[03:47] <rww> macman: pretty much anything with rwx (7**) permissions for your user would work.
[03:47] <bruce89> storrgie: dia probably does
[03:47] <zaccour> tritium, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m5d4d77ad
[03:47] <Cotowar> anyone in here have experience with thinkfinger 0.3?
[03:47] <musikgoat|main> macman: that is 700
[03:47] <mrh> hi fellows
[03:48] <mrh> Ok, this is the silliest question ever
[03:48] <bruce89> !question
[03:48] <mrh> but this is BS, it's SO SIMPL: WHAT DO I USE TO HALFWAY DECENTLY ZIP AND UNZIP FILES?
[03:48] <zaccour> i found a forum help im gonna try brb
[03:48] <bruce89> !shout
[03:48] <mrh> I have 7zip
[03:48] <CrazedLunatic> is there any logical reason why my evdo internet would be running normal, then get to the point where it would log on and work fine for 2 minutes then stop all throughput, then just recover on its own?
[03:49] <etzerd> hello all
[03:49] <CrazedLunatic> happened to me today
[03:49] <musikgoat|main> !zip | mrh
[03:49] <mrh> I have xarchiver
[03:49] <tritium> zaccour: your ethernet card is not configured in /etc/network/interfaces.  How are you connected currently?  Wireless?
[03:49] <zaccour> no
[03:49] <CrazedLunatic> I am on alltel with a USB modem
[03:49] <zaccour> tritium, i haven't installed the updates yet
[03:49] <mrh> according to the xarchiver, all was well with an operation
[03:49] <mrh> then
[03:50] <mrh> what do you know? I trusted it and emailed it off, and
[03:50] <mrh> the thing was empty
[03:50] <MK13_> tritium: i think his wired network is currently working, it only stops after the update (he is at a clean install right now)
[03:50] <tritium> zaccour: you're using ethernet?  Then it's something with network manager.
[03:50] <mrh> serious, something as silly as that turns into trouble?
[03:50] <tritium> zaccour: I'd configure your ethernet in /etc/network/interfaces
[03:50] <seamus_> does anyone know how to get rid of the uuid naming schema and go back to using the /dev/sd* naming schema?
[03:50] <bruce89> !uuid
[03:50] <zaccour> tritium, it works now, but if i inatall all the updates it wont
[03:51] <bruce89> that apostrophe needs removed
[03:51] <tritium> zaccour: yes, I know.  It's something with network manager.  I'd bet on it working if you configure it manually in /etc/network/interfaces
[03:51] <seamus_> the problem is not that the uuid names don't match, it just breaks on boot
[03:51] <FloridaGuy> is there any better docks then avant
[03:51] <MK13_> zaccour: if you went ahead and updated right now, would you be able to use wireless to get back to irc?
[03:52] <sebsebseb> FloridaGuy: sure  Cairo Dock
[03:52] <musikgoat|main> better is an opinion
[03:52] <bruce89> !opinion
[03:52] <MK13_> FloridaGuy: I use cairo dock
[03:52] <mad4cron> question about different behavior of crontab on 8.04.2 server and 8.04.2 desktop...
[03:53] <dcjohn> where can i find linux-backports-modules in ubuntu packages?
[03:53] <dcjohn> to get my atheros card working
[03:53] <musikgoat|main> bruce89: are you really a text parsing bot?  finding messages and putting the best ubottu response to that message?  :-P
[03:53] <FloridaGuy> sebastien, MK13_, ok ill try both of them see witch one i like better
[03:54] <mad4cron> i've created ssh keys (no passwd) and tested on both desktop and server systems.  they both work no prob.  i run the following via crontab for my non-root user account, and it works perfectly on server, but not on desktop, and logs have proven to be no help: @reboot /usr/bin/screen -fa -d -m -S testscreen /usr/bin/autossh -M 0 -p 2222 username@192.168.1.1
[03:54] <mad4cron> any ideas?
[03:54] <bruce89> musikgoat|main: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[03:55] <seamus_> rationale or not, every upgrade or new install I've done recently has broken, causing more work
[03:55] <FloridaGuy> on a cpu is a AMD Athon 64 a true 64 bit
[03:56] <Feralwyn1> hey folks. I installed ubuntu on my notebook with apache, everything is working fine except apache wont prompt for basic authentication when there is a .htaccess file with "AuthType Basic", auth_basic.load is in mods-enabled and shows up in phpinfo()
[03:56] <seamus_> so why can't i choose to use the standard /dev/ naming schema?
[03:56] <musikgoat|main> bruce89: spoken like a true bot :-)
[03:56] <Feralwyn1> any ideas why im not getting prompted for basic auth?
[03:57] <musikgoat|main> Feralwyn1: you may get better answers in #apache if you don't get them here
[03:57] <bruce89bot> FloridaGuy: why do you think it's called AMD64?
[03:58] <kernel_script_> hi,good night, somebody had sucess in compiling the new aptitude? I did everething required, i think it may be a mercurial problem, someone else tried?
[03:58] <scottsd> can you somehow have subgroups in linux? ie, I want A to be a subgroup of B so that all members of A are members of B.
[03:58] <wolter> will my system create a new syslog for each kernel panic?
[03:58] <zaccour> MK13_, yes i would
[03:58] <musikgoat|main> FloridaGuy: yes, amd 64 procs have true 64-bit support
[03:58] <FloridaGuy> bruce89bot, i remember when they 1st came out with 64 bit...some pc tec told me they wasent true 64 bit
[03:59] <myron> Has anyone here ever used tovid suite in ubuntu?
[03:59] <musikgoat|main> FloridaGuy: thats intel's 64 bit
[03:59] <FloridaGuy> ok
[03:59] <MK13_> zaccour: then I would suggest updating, them let people troubleshoot with the information from the way the system is in a non-working state
[03:59] <bruce89bot> FloridaGuy: I suppose technically the memory addressing is only 48 bi
[03:59] <musikgoat|main> FloridaGuy: i think it was called em64t or something
[03:59] <fuzeboxsoftware> is there a program in ubuntu to burn avi files to regular mpeg format for dvd players to a dvd?
[04:00] <mad4cron> Feralwyn, did you look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=47669  ?  "You need to AllowOverride in your..."
[04:00] <jtaji> fuzeboxsoftware: devede
[04:00] <FloridaGuy> i guess it would be 64 bit..if im runing ubuntu 64bbit version
[04:00] <myron> fuzeboxsoftware: I'm playing around with a couple right now tovid seemed very buggy, but so far fuocotools looks promising
[04:01] <fuzeboxsoftware> ty jtaji and myron
[04:01] <stormchas2000> fuzebox     have you tried K9copy
[04:01] <fuzeboxsoftware> so it will convert the avi file to be able to play on a dvd player: myron?
[04:01] <FloridaGuy> i cant find cairo in the repo
[04:01] <fuzeboxsoftware> havn't tried anything yet
[04:01] <bruce89bot> FloridaGuy: cairo is something else
[04:01] <fuzeboxsoftware> about to try devede now
[04:02] <stormchas2000> i use k9copy to burn dvds
[04:02] <FloridaGuy> bruce89bot, what under a different name?
[04:02] <stormchas2000> it does a pretty good job
[04:02] <bruce89bot> hang on
[04:02] <myron> fuzeboxsoftware: I am trying fuocotools right now, It is very user friendly and so far is working great
[04:02] <wolter> is it normal to get occasional kernel panics?
[04:02] <bruce89bot> !info cairo-dock
[04:02] <wolter> i want to know where to find my kernel panic log.
[04:02] <FloridaGuy> k
[04:03] <wolter> if not i will be unable to debug it...
[04:03] <MK13_> FloridaGuy try "sudo apt-get install cairo-dock"
[04:03] <fuzeboxsoftware> myron: is it not in the package manager?
[04:03] <musikgoat|main> wolter: /var/log/kern.log ?
[04:03] <myron> Fuzeboxsoftware: but then again, I just installed it. I am converting a video now to be burned to a dvd, I should know how well it works in a minute.
[04:04] <wolter> musikgoat|main, dont ask me.
[04:04] <Feralwyn1> mad4cron, your a champ... default was AllowOverride None.. changed it to All
[04:04] <myron> Fuzeboxsoftware: no it's not in the package manager, I'll try to find the link for the install tutorial I found
[04:04] <musikgoat|main> wolter: sorry, wasn't asking, was telling
[04:04] <fuzeboxsoftware> ty myron
[04:04] <mad4cron> cool
[04:04] <wolter> musikgoat|main, uh ok
[04:04] <baz> anyone notice vlc sounds a lot better than mplayer or rythmbox?
[04:04] <musikgoat|main> wolter: cat /var/log/kern.log | grep -i panic
[04:05] <myron> fuzeboxsoftware: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=652843
[04:05] <wolter> musikgoat|main, the latest log is from jan 20..
[04:05] <fuzeboxsoftware> myron: just found that tutorial on google :P
[04:05] <wolter> musikgoat|main, and there is no panic
[04:05] <bruce89bot> fuzeboxsoftware: I could come up with a conversion script perhaps
[04:05] <musikgoat|main> wolter: thats where kernel messages are stored
[04:05] <wolter> maybe I am not having kernel panics. What defines such as such?
[04:06] <musikgoat|main> wolter: you sure your date on your machine is off
[04:06] <ajh2000> hello
[04:06] <fuzeboxsoftware> alot of work for a simple program lol
[04:06] <wolter> musikgoat|main, i have mar 10 date and I just had what I believe is a kernel panic.
[04:06] <FloridaGuy> MK13_, here's what that installed....cairo-dock cairo-dock-data ....but i see nothing in the menu
[04:07] <wolter> musikgoat|main, my computer gets completely unusable forcing me to hard reboot the system.
[04:07] <bruce89bot> fuzeboxsoftware: mjpegtools has something that would work, hang on
[04:07] <ajh2000> i need some help diagnosing a bug in ibex
[04:07] <myron> fuzeboxsoftware: Not really, it took me less than 10 min. to install everything
[04:08] <illmortal> anyone know a good fraps program for Ubuntu 8.10?
[04:08] <tritium> illmortal: fraps?
[04:08] <bruce89bot> myron: mpegtranscode
[04:08] <illmortal> you know, to record what you're doing on your desktop
[04:09] <illmortal> tritium ^
[04:09] <myron> bruce89bot: will mpegtranscode burn the dvd for you too?
[04:10] <bruce89bot> no
[04:10] <bruce89bot> actually, that's not what I'm thinking of
[04:10] <doleyb> illmortal: try recordmydesktop
[04:10] <LordFDisk> illmortal,  I like gtk-recordMyDesktop
[04:10] <tritium> illmortal: istanbul, for one
[04:10] <^paradox^> im having an issue with my hp dvd1040 dvd writer. i tried playing alvin and the chipmunks and i get an error message saying the source cant be read and asking me if im trying to play it without libdvdcss
[04:11] <SineDeviance> i have a terrible problem
[04:11] <bruce89bot> myron: it was probably ffmpeg actually
[04:11] <^paradox^> i looked thru synaptic but, no libdvdcss was installed and when i search for it i cant find it
[04:11] <tritium> illmortal: you might check here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScreencastTeam
[04:11] <^paradox^> help? lol
[04:12] <myron> yeah, I have used ffmpeg
[04:12] <tritium> ^paradox^: you need to get it from the medibuntu repository
[04:12] <myron> I was looking for something that would combine conversions and dvd burning into one.
[04:12] <^paradox^> tritium: will it fix the problem?
[04:12] <MK13> tritium: did that other person get his wired connection fixed?
[04:13] <tritium> MK13: we worked on it, and he's rebooting now to test.
[04:13] <myron> That's when I found the fuocotools program
[04:13] <myron> I just installed it and I'm testing it now
[04:13] <bruce89bot> myron: $ ffmpeg -i my_video.avi -target dvd -aspect 16:9 -sameq my_dvd_video.mpg
[04:13] <MK13> tritium: ok, i rebooted myself into ubuntu so I could be alittle bit more helpful
[04:13] <tritium> MK13: ok, thanks
[04:13] <bruce89bot> then use dvdauthor to write
[04:13] <mad4cron> I've created ssh keys (no passwd) and tested on both desktop and server systems.  they both work no prob.  i run the following via crontab for my non-root user account, and it works perfectly on server, but not on desktop, and logs have proven to be no help: @reboot /usr/bin/screen -fa -d -m -S testscreen /usr/bin/autossh -M 0 -p 2222 username@192.168.1.1
[04:14] <bruce89bot> myron: http://atomized.org/2005/03/converting-divxxvid-avi-to-dvd-with-ffmpeg/
[04:14] <^paradox^> tritium: also, how do i go about using the medibuntu repository?
[04:14] <tritium> !medibuntu | ^paradox^
[04:14] <LynuxDevil> is getdeb.net well respected?
[04:14] <wolter> LynuxDevil, yes
[04:14] <tritium> LynuxDevil: we don't advise using it.  What are you looking for?
[04:15] <LynuxDevil> tritium: Pidgin 2.5.5 for the latest version of Ubuntu, I assume
[04:15] <bruce89bot> LynuxDevil: bo
[04:15] <bruce89bot> with a n
[04:15] <LynuxDevil> bruce89bot: what do you mean?
[04:15] <m1chael> has anyone tried a product like this?? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16875987016
[04:15] <myron> bruce89bot: from what I can see, fuoco tools is just a frontend for several different programs including ffmpeg and dvdauthor
[04:15] <bruce89bot> myron: ah
[04:15] <fuzeboxsoftware> myron: did you have to grab each of those programs on step 3?
[04:16] <LynuxDevil> bon?
[04:16] <chuy_max> hi guys, is there any disadvantage installing 64bit ubuntu instead of 32bit?
[04:16] <LynuxDevil> what does that mean?
[04:16] <fuzeboxsoftware> nm :P
[04:16] <fuzeboxsoftware> already in the command line there
[04:16] <bruce89bot> LynuxDevil: I was saying it was not nice
[04:16] <MK13> chuy_max: driver problems and such
[04:16] <LynuxDevil> bruce89bot: what was not nice?
[04:16] <bruce89bot> LynuxDevil: getdeb
[04:17] <LynuxDevil> bruce89: why?
[04:17] <wolter> is there anything wrong with this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/129632/
[04:17] <bruce89> bad packaging
[04:17] <wolter> its my wpa_supplicant log
[04:17] <myron> fuzeboxsoftware: I would, they are all dependencies
[04:17] <chuy_max> MK13 ugh, is it really that bad?
[04:17] <wolter> i think it might have some info about my kernel panics
[04:17] <LynuxDevil> bruce89: bad how? checkinstall crud?
[04:17] <ajh2000> my intrepid ibex operating system freezes when I play sound, through Flash video or mp3 players like Audacious. Should I log this bug in Launchpad under "Linux Kernel" ... or something else?
[04:18] <bruce89> LynuxDevil: generally they just uupdate, and don't remove obselete patches or whatever
[04:18] <LynuxDevil> bruce89: oh
[04:18] <MK13> chuy_max: i never tried it actually i have an AMD Turion 64 X2 but still use 32 bit Ubuntu
[04:18] <ck80> test
[04:19] <bruce89> !test | ck80
[04:19] <chuy_max> MK13 why don't you switch over to 64bit?
[04:19] <chuy_max> it might be faster :p
[04:19] <ck80> thanks
[04:19] <bruce89> MK13: I've never had any driver issues
[04:19] <myron> ajh2000: I would search the forums for a solution first. does it freeze with all mp2 players?
[04:19] <MK13> chuy_max: I prolly will try it when Jaunty is released, but I am just fine w/ 32 bit for right now
[04:20] <bruce89> !hi | ck80
[04:21] <myron> ajh2000: that was suppose to be mp3
[04:22] <ajh2000> myron: it's failed on Audacious and "MoviePlayer"
[04:23] <myron> ajh2000: for mp3 files and flash movies right?
[04:23] <ajh2000> myron: haven't tried any others but it also freezes if I'm watching some web based video with sound... ie Youtube
[04:23] <ajh2000> myron: yes that's right
[04:24] <bruce89> anything interesting in the terminal?
[04:24] <myron> ajh2000: try opening mplayer from a terminal and try to play an mp3. See if it gives an error message
[04:25] <bruce89> great minds think alike
[04:25] <Ficthe> hi, I was helping a friend install Ubuntu on his iMac (a newer one, that carries an Intel chip), and I fell short of answers. Apparently there's a thing called "reFIt" - I was actually thinking that it was a bootloader.. but GRUB seemed to be running, so I suppose not. Anyway, is rEFIt something that I can survive without, or is it something I necessarily need while putting Ubuntu on an imac?
[04:25] <ajh2000> myron: ok, we might get cut off ;) but i'll be back
[04:25] <myron> ajh2000: ok
[04:26] <fuzeboxsoftware> fuoco sucks :(
[04:26] <fuzeboxsoftware> can't get it to do anything and has an error when starting up
[04:26] <fuzeboxsoftware> :/
[04:27] <bruce89> you should just use ffmpeg and dvdauthor manually
[04:27] <myron> fuzeboxsoftware: I had the error starting up too, but it is working for me....
[04:28] <fuzeboxsoftware> i clicked on dvd icon, created the output folder and clicked the button and nothing happened
[04:28] <fuzeboxsoftware> nothing in the folder
[04:28] <fuzeboxsoftware> for the output
[04:28] <theeezy> how do i install the newest version of unbuntu without burning a cd
[04:29] <sebsebseb> theeezy: 8.10?
[04:29] <ck80> theeezy apt-get distr-upgrade
[04:29] <myron> fuzeboxsoftware: did it act like the application freeze, and what file type did you use?
[04:29] <fuzeboxsoftware> myron: what did you do?
[04:29] <LynuxDevil> theeezy means upgrade it to the latest stable release
[04:29] <LynuxDevil> ck80: that is a bad decision to use htat
[04:29] <LynuxDevil> that*
[04:29] <fuzeboxsoftware> myron: .avi
[04:29] <bruce89> myron: http://atomized.org/2005/03/converting-divxxvid-avi-to-dvd-with-ffmpeg/
[04:29] <ck80> LynuxDevil why?
[04:29] <myron> fuzeboxsoftware: did it act like it was frozen?
[04:29] <fuzeboxsoftware> mm...no
[04:30] <LynuxDevil> ck80: it's better to use the Update Manager, it installs packages in a special order or configures things in a special way
[04:30] <LynuxDevil> ck80: I know that
[04:30] <bruce89> theeezy: do-release-upgrade or update-manager -d
[04:30] <myron> fuzeboxsoftware: did you put a dvd title?
[04:30] <fuzeboxsoftware> dvd title??
[04:30] <theeezy> update manager isnt working
[04:30] <LynuxDevil> theeezy: run those with "sudo " tacked onto the front (without quotes)
[04:30] <LynuxDevil> theeezy: why not?
[04:31] <LynuxDevil> theeezy: what does it say?
[04:31] <LynuxDevil> theeezy: you probably forgot what I just said above
[04:31] <fuzeboxsoftware> now it acts like it is freezing myron
[04:31] <theeezy> says no release found
[04:31] <LynuxDevil> !upgrade-release
[04:31] <myron> fuzeboxsoftware: did you use full 0.0.7e on the fifth step?
[04:31] <LynuxDevil> !release-upgrade
[04:32] <LynuxDevil> umm... a little help with the bot please?
[04:32] <fuzeboxsoftware> fifth step?
[04:32] <myron> fuzeboxsoftware: acting like it is freezing without going to a gray screen is good
[04:32] <fuzeboxsoftware> myron: well, a command line opened up, but there was an error
[04:32] <LynuxDevil> theeezy: I've never had that problem before when upgrading Ubuntu
[04:32] <LynuxDevil> weird
[04:33] <fuzeboxsoftware> myron: xterm: Can't execvp ANY: No such file or directory
[04:33] <MK13> !commands
[04:33] <PowerMoos> Does anyone know of a download manager that would have a site viewer on it like Freedownloadmanager in windows?  Or getright? FileZilla doesn't accept HTTP links
[04:33] <myron> fuzeboxsoftware: hmm, I didn't open mine with a command line
[04:33] <MK13> !release-upgrade
[04:33] <theeezy> theres only an alpha version available
[04:34] <LynuxDevil> theeezy: that's really weird
[04:34] <fuzeboxsoftware> myron: what did you choose for the conversion?
[04:34] <LynuxDevil> theeezy: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading
[04:34] <myron> fuzeboxsoftware: I didn't, as soon as I opened the program, I clicked "create a dvd" on the right.
[04:35] <dingleberry> anyone notice that flash lags really bad with the latest firefox and flash and ubuntu?
[04:35] <myron> fuzeboxsoftware: then I followed the steps.
[04:35] <LynuxDevil> theeezy: To find your Ubuntu version:
[04:35] <LynuxDevil> lsb_release -a
[04:35] <fuzeboxsoftware> i don't see it :/
[04:35] <doleyb> dingleberry: i sorta see that yeah, but I blame my toasty CPU
[04:35] <tritium> MK13: hopefully he comes back soon.  If not, I may not be around.
[04:35] <LynuxDevil> theeezy: run that in a terminal
[04:35] <myron> dingleberry: I've noticed it, sometimes flash videos don't show up on my box, but they do after I refresh
[04:35] <fuzeboxsoftware> what tab myron?
[04:36] <ajh2000> myron: I installed mplayer, played mp3 file for about 1 minute. It didn't freeze. There weren't any bad errors on the command line...
[04:36] <dingleberry> doleyb, i dont blame my cpu because it runs fine on windows
[04:36] <MK13> tritium: yea, i know... i'm getting alittle worried
[04:36]  * CoskunD is away (Gule Gule (Cevrim Disi) | Bye Bye (Offline))
[04:36] <tritium> !away | CoskunD
[04:36] <doleyb> dingleberry: mine windows is also bad!  in fact its more bad.
[04:36] <myron> fuzeboxsoftware: extra and option tab
[04:36] <MK13> tritium: did he do any fixes PRIOR to updating, or just updating?
[04:36] <ajh2000> myrone: should I just keep playing it til it freezes?
[04:36] <theeezy> do i type sudo?
[04:37] <LynuxDevil> theeezy: I think so
[04:37] <LynuxDevil> theeezy: it can't hurt
[04:37] <dingleberry> doleyb, your windows sucks
[04:37] <to3000> windows sucks
[04:37] <LynuxDevil> to3000: yep :)
[04:37] <dingleberry> my windows is fine you must have viruses
[04:37] <tritium> MK13: in short, we configured eth0 for dhcp in /etc/network/interfaces.  Network manager should now ignore eth0.  He didn't update yet.
[04:37] <LynuxDevil> dingleberry: no, that's not why it sucks
[04:37] <to3000> ubuntu dosent get viruss
[04:38] <theeezy> it says No LSB modules are available. Distributor ID:	Ubuntu Description:	Ubuntu 8.10 Release:	8.10 Codename:	intrepid
[04:38] <LynuxDevil> dingleberry: oh, and that too, for now... ^^^
[04:38] <fuzeboxsoftware> xine error :(
[04:38] <LynuxDevil> theeezy: what?
[04:38] <fuzeboxsoftware> ready to throw ubuntu in the trash :((
[04:38] <MK13> tritium: ohhh, ok
[04:38] <LynuxDevil> theeezy: you already have the newest release
[04:38] <myron> ajh2000: yes, play until it freezes, but you may not be able to see an error message, because it may freeze before the error can output
[04:38] <theeezy> oh my bad
[04:38] <LynuxDevil> theeezy: so...what doesn't work in Pidgin for you?
[04:38] <LynuxDevil> theeezy: what did you do wrong?
[04:39] <tritium> fuzeboxsoftware: what's wrong?
[04:39] <MK13> tritium: i just looked at my /etc/network/interfaces (they work) and they look exactly like his
[04:39] <LynuxDevil> theeezy: did you just think you needed to upgrade it to a new release?
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[04:39] <myron> fuzeboxsoftware: was xine error referring to fuoco tools?
[04:39] <theeezy> the old one would always say i logged out but i diddnt
[04:39] <huggintime_> i cant get copiz to work please help
[04:39] <theeezy> it would only work for like 5 minutes
[04:39] <tritium> MK13: yes, but you're letting network-manager handle your interface.
[04:39] <to3000> april 23 juntuy jacalope
[04:39] <huggintime_> ive been trying for 4hrs
[04:40] <fuzeboxsoftware> i dunno, going to try something else
[04:40] <theeezy> no the pidgin messenger only works for like 5 minutes then says im logged out
[04:40] <tritium> fuzeboxsoftware: what are you trying to do?  What issues are you having with ubuntu software?
[04:41] <myron> fuzeboxsoftware: ok. I can say that for me, the program just finished converting my video file to an mpeg, and opened k3b for burning
[04:41] <myron> fuzeboxsoftware: you may want to check out k3b, it is in the ubuntu repository
[04:41] <theeezy> ?
[04:42] <myron> tritium: he is trying to find a solution for dvd conversion and authoring
[04:43] <^paradox^> ah yeh my dvd writer works now, thanks for the info on medibuntu
[04:43] <myron> bruce89: wb
[04:43] <to3000> 9.04
[04:43] <tritium> myron: thanks.  Since he's ignoring me, I'll let you continue.
[04:43] <to3000> 4
[04:43] <to3000> 4
[04:43] <to3000> 4
[04:43] <FloodBot2> to3000: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:43] <bruce89> hmm?
[04:43] <^paradox^> btw i have no use for the law unless it except when it works in my favor ;-)
[04:44] <myron> fuzeboxsoftware: are you still here?
[04:44] <tritium> ^paradox^: don't say things like that here, please
[04:44]  * r42 is away (Gule Gule (Cevrim Disi) | Bye Bye (Offline))
[04:44] <tritium> ubottu: tell R42 about away
[04:44] <^paradox^> alrighty
[04:44] <Ignatius> !grub
[04:45] <fuzeboxsoftware> myron: sorry, trying this avidemux
[04:45] <fuzeboxsoftware> hopefully this works
[04:45] <mjec> Hey, I'm having some issues with crypto disks.. specifically /dev/mapper/sda3_crypt has disappaered (and sda2_crypt), though sda4_crypt is there.
[04:45] <mjec> New install, just configured - any thoughts, or places I cuold look?
[04:45] <^paradox^> ty again all, laterz
[04:46] <miloman3> hi i was trying to install ubuntu studio and my computer froze so it restarted and i opened up synaptic package manager to see if it finished and this came up  (E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.  E: _cache->open() failed, please report.)
[04:46] <fuzeboxsoftware> ehh
[04:47] <myron> ajh2000: hows the mp3 going?
[04:47] <miloman3> can any one answer
[04:47] <koshari> miloman3 whats the question
[04:47] <myron> miloman3: have you opened the terminal and run the command?
[04:48] <miloman3> idk how or where to find it
[04:48] <base1O> applications > assosories > terminal
[04:48] <myron> miloman3: "alt + F2" type xterm
[04:48] <miloman3> oh it under applications thanks
[04:49] <base1O> might as well drag and drop it into your task bar now because you will need to learn it alot more
[04:49] <myron> or set up a keyboard shortcut :)
[04:49] <base1O> to each their own ;-)
[04:49] <myron> :)
[04:50] <base1O> i speak from the newly windows to linux tranfers
[04:50] <base1O> easy to understand language for noobs
[04:50] <myron> good point
[04:51] <myron> sadly I liked windows task manager so much, that I created a keyboard shortcut for gnome-system-monitor
[04:51] <koshari> myron you havnt discovered scale yot have you
[04:52] <base1O> ive been useing system monitor and terminal commands to check ports and network stuff
[04:52] <myron> scale yot?
[04:52] <bruce89> xkill is rather nice
[04:52] <coreyman> how do i put the system in standby
[04:52] <koshari> yet
[04:52] <BigMike> what can I do to stop ubuntu from locking up solid when I run a video player
[04:52] <miloman3> ok now its saying i dont have the privileges even though im the only account and the admin
[04:52] <MK13> BigMike: lots of lube
[04:52] <myron> BigMike: what is the terminal error message?
[04:52] <koshari> miloman3 you need to use sudo
[04:53] <BigMike> 10-W40?
[04:53] <miloman3> ok
[04:53] <koshari> miloman3 you are attempting to accomplish a task as root
[04:53] <base1O> haha, can i drap and drop somones name to answer their question quickly? how does pigions irc work in that instance
[04:53] <MK13> BigMike: that should do :D
[04:53] <BigMike> no errrors lockd so hard I have to hold the button till it shuts down
[04:53] <base1O> do i have to copy and paste the name?
[04:53] <miloman3> so putting in "dpkg --configure -a" doesnt work
[04:54] <myron> miloman3: no you have to use "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[04:54] <miloman3> ok thanks again'
[04:54] <myron> miloman3: no problem
[04:55] <base1O> what is miloman running? debian/ubuntu?
[04:55] <myron> ???
[04:55] <myron> I assumed ubuntu since he's in the ubuntu channel
[04:55] <base1O> then it would be sudo apt-get install <whatever program>
[04:56] <BigMike> could that be a prob in the xorg.conf MK13?
[04:56] <myron> right, but he has to configure dpkg first, because his last install was interrupted
[04:56] <tritium> MK13: will you keep an eye out for zaccour?  I have to head to bed.
[04:56] <base1O> or maybe i did not hear the whole convo oops
[04:56] <MK13> tritium: sure
[04:57] <tritium> MK13: thanks, and good night.
[04:57] <miloman3> hey thanks it worked
[04:57] <myron> miloman3: no problem
[04:58] <BlackAeronaut> Howdy all.  Does anyone know anything about Ubuntu's compatibility with Toshiba A355D Series Satellites?
[04:58] <base1O> does anyone here play free civ? wheres the instruction man? i play civ rev on my xbox 360 but wanted to try free civ out
[04:58] <miloman3> i only wish i had a better graphics card
[04:59] <MK13> BigMike: I don't think the xorg.conf would be the culprit
[04:59] <adhy_ogut> xchat
[04:59] <n2diy> base10, did you try a man page for it?
[04:59] <BigMike> ok MK13 got any ideas for me?
[04:59] <MK13> BigMike: What release and architecture of ubuntu are you running?
[04:59] <base1O> yeah.. but needing a man page to play a video game kind of makes it suck
[05:00] <n2diy> base10, oh well.
[05:00] <base1O> well.. thats why I have a xbox 360 :-)
[05:00] <BigMike> I am running 7.10 didnt do the upgrade to 8 but it says I am using 8
[05:00] <BlackAeronaut> I'm having trouble installing Ubuntu on a late-model Toshiba.  Can anyone help me?
[05:01] <base1O> \what is it doing?
[05:01] <myron> BlackAeronaut: What's the problem?
[05:01] <PowerMoos> when I went to install a deb package, the version I want, I get "a later version is already installed" , how do I bypass that ?
[05:01] <BlackAeronaut> Gives me the friggin terminal prompt.  NO login, nothing.
[05:01] <MK13> BigMike: you might have upgraded to 8 it though the update manager, is it 8.04 or 8.10, also 64 bit or 32 bit?
[05:01] <n2diy> base10, I'm not a gamer, so I won't feel your pain. :) GL
[05:01] <myron> PowerMoos: install with the -f switch
[05:01] <BigMike> 32 bit
[05:01] <qingling> aaa
[05:02] <base1O> ﻿BlackAeronaut; try typing startx
[05:02] <eus> Does anyone aware of a problem with Remote Desktop Access in Ubuntu 8.04. Specifically, when you select `Required Encryption', no one from another Ubuntu machine can login by entering the required password.
[05:02] <BigMike> I used the update manager if i use the upgrade it wouldnt run
[05:02] <BlackAeronaut> base10: Okay, wit one while I try that.
[05:02] <PowerMoos> myron, in the terminal ? dpgk -i -f file.deb /
[05:02] <PowerMoos> myron, in the terminal ? dpgk -i -f file.deb ?
[05:03] <FaMott> !9.04
[05:03] <zaccour> hey im back
[05:03] <base1O> I still would like to know why i can get updates via gui for clamav, it says i need to be root.. how do i login as root!?
[05:03] <BigMike> ok I gotta check for the exact version MK13
[05:03] <base1O> cant* get updates
[05:03] <MK13> BigMike: is there any specific warning that comes with the lock-up?
[05:04] <myron> PowerMoos: try "dpkg -i --force file.deb"
[05:04] <BigMike> nothing it freezes solid MK13
[05:04] <Killabeez> im trying to load ubuntu 8.10 and getting a white screen at loading - any ideas on what to do? it might be that my video card is to new? ati 4000 series
[05:04] <shyam_k`> my system is stuck during shutdown at "saving the system clock" i had an error previously and found out thats from hwclock, which i cured giving --directisa option at the hwclock.sh and now there is no error message it just stays paused for any time when asked to shutdown/halt/restart.. had a problem with HAL too, which cured when i re-installed that. In /var/log/messages.1.gz i have "Clocksource tsc unstable (delta = -153182222 ns)"
[05:04] <shyam_k`> does that say anything?
[05:04] <FaMott> Exit to error: Can't init SDL No available video device
[05:04] <MK13> zaccour: sup?
[05:04] <FaMott> How can I fix that? It comes up when I try to run my games now ><
[05:05] <zaccour> i tried what tritum said and then i had no internet at all
[05:05] <zaccour> so i had to reinstall
[05:05] <FaMott> I tried to install SDL 1.2 from source so I could play Ivan x.x;
[05:05] <zaccour> checking forums brb
[05:05] <BigMike> Ubuntu 8.04.2 \n \l MK13
[05:06] <FaMott> ?
[05:06] <MK13> BigMike: what program are you playing videos in?
[05:06] <BigMike> it will lock up in totem or vlc
[05:06] <base1O> bigmike; down the correct codecs  , hes prob playing an avi
[05:06] <shyam_k`> should i apt-get install insomnia-pills?
[05:06] <base1O> get div-X
[05:06] <BigMike> ok check for codecs
[05:06] <BlackAeronaut> base10: Tried typing startx at the terminal prompt.  Got some sort of error...
[05:06] <BigMike> ok
[05:07] <myron> BlackAeronaut: What was the error message?
[05:07] <base1O> div-x codecs
[05:07] <shyam_k`> that would be cool to have a medicine repository under apt! who said apt is feature finished..
[05:07] <BigMike> will try that
[05:07] <BigMike> thank you all
[05:08] <base1O> np
[05:08] <zaccour> MK13, hey i figured out what ill do
[05:08] <MK13> zaccour: what's that?
[05:08] <BlackAeronaut> base10: Fatal server error: no screens found ... giving up.  (break)  xinit:  Connection refused (errno 111): unable to connect to X server (break) xinit:  No such process (errno 3): Server error.
[05:08] <base1O> what type of linux do you have installed?
[05:08] <zaccour> MK13, i dont wanna have to deal with changing dependencies and such, so ill just install security updates, thats all i really need anyway, until the beta release anyway
[05:09] <myron> base10: I think he said ubuntu
[05:09] <zaccour> MK13, then i will try again in beta
[05:09] <gladiator> hi. i have 64 bit ubuntu installed on my laptop.
[05:09] <base1O> ok.. he will need to reformat everything and reinstall
[05:09] <Killabeez> anyone know a fix to install ubuntu with the 4870 series ati card?
[05:09] <MK13> zaccour: have you also tried just using 8.04?
[05:09] <gladiator> i am trying to install skype which is a 32 bit package. dpkg gives me an error saying package architecture does not match
[05:10] <zaccour> MK13, ill just install security updates, dont see any reason to change stuff if it works ok. if it aint broke, dont break it. right?
[05:10] <myron> base10: did x not install properly?
[05:10] <shyam_k`> is it on topic here to talk about proprietary softwares?
[05:11] <base1O> myron: np.. i will figure it out though, my brain hurts
[05:11] <myron> base10: or is it a graphics card configuration error?
[05:11] <base1O> ??
[05:11] <base1O> neither
[05:11] <alkisg> How can I open .7z files created with the windows version of 7zip? I do have the lzma package installed, but file-roller complains "unsupported file format"...
[05:12] <bruce89> !7z
[05:12] <base1O> i dont think i even asked a question in here
[05:12] <base1O> if i did i forget, allright goodnight
[05:12] <bruce89> !info pzip
[05:12] <bruce89> !info p7zip
[05:12] <jtaji> alkisg: install p7zip-full and  you should be good to go
[05:12] <bruce89> you don't need -full
[05:13] <alkisg> Thanks guys, I thought lzma should be enough and that the problem was elsewhere..
[05:13] <gladiator> can anyone tell me how to install a 32 bit application on 64 bit ubuntu?
[05:13] <FaMott> Hmm.
[05:13] <x4d> Hello, I'm trying to get finch installed but I get a dependency error from pidgin-data because I'm not using the pidgin from the repos but the newest available version. So I should find the newer version of finch that corresponds to the new pidgin-data package... but I can't seem to find it in pidgins site, anyone know where I can download it from?
[05:13] <bruce89> lzma is only the compression that 7z usually uses
[05:13] <BlackAeronaut> Anyone, I'm trying to get 64 Bit Ubuntu 8.10 installed on my Toshiba Satellite, but all I get is a terminal prompt.  Can anyone help me?
[05:13] <FaMott> Exit to error: Can't init SDL No available video device <- I can't Play most of my games because SDL doesn't load video, how do I fix it?
[05:14] <myron> BlackAeronaut: What model Toshiba Satellite?
[05:14] <alkisg> bruce89: yes, and also the package name for a file-roller plugin - so even without pzip, file roller can actually create .lzma files - but obviously they are different from .7z files.
[05:15] <alkisg> E.g. if I create an .lzma file with my default ubuntu installation, the windows 7zip program can open it, but not e.g. winrar - which claims to support 7z...
[05:15] <illmortal> Does anyone know of an application that runs lighter than Instabul? I find Instabul to be a strong processor hog.
[05:16] <bruce89> well, it's the same with gz and bz2
[05:16] <alkisg> Really? Dah... Anyway, thanks again...
[05:16] <BlackAeronaut> myron: it's an A355D series Satellite.
[05:17] <bruce89> I meant they were also compression programs
[05:17] <swayed> Hi - Someone suggest the best way to clone my HDrive to a bigger one - Used Ghost 2003 bit by bit sector to sector and new bigger drive will not boot - Just say's GRUB on top left corner of screen and stops - will not fininshing booting ? ?
[05:17] <swayed> Also tried using Acronis as well!
[05:18] <bruce89> dd?
[05:18] <zaccour> ok im installing security updates only, i dont really need the rest of that stuff
[05:18] <n2diy> ! clone | swayed
[05:18] <jtaji> swayed: take a look at clonezilla
[05:18] <bruce89> !dd
[05:19] <alkisg> swayed: just reinstall grub - it should be fine as it is now.
[05:19] <n2diy> swayed: or sbackup
[05:19] <swayed> jtaji; Thanks - will do.....
[05:19] <FaMott> !Display Variable
[05:19] <FaMott> Aruumph.
[05:19] <FaMott> Need to set it to...
[05:20] <FaMott> DISPLAY=:0 ; export DISPLAY
[05:20] <FaMott> csh: setenv DISPLAY :0
[05:20] <userx> myron: mplayer and the OS crashed with no error message
[05:21] <gladiator> how do i force install all the dependencies of a package?
[05:21] <n2diy> FaMott: are you sure of that syntax, it looks funny?
[05:21] <myron> BlackAeronaut: is this a new install?
[05:21] <swayed> alkisg; I wondered about that - wasn't sure how to repair or get grub to work correctly - guess I could do that by booting to Ibex Live CD ? ?
[05:21] <bruce89> gladiator: they should be anyway
[05:21] <FaMott> I was googling to see how I could fix the error I keep getting when I have issues with SDL
[05:22] <FaMott> " Exit to error: Can't init SDL No available video device." to be exact
[05:22] <myron> ajh2000: hmm one second
[05:22] <gladiator> bruce89: i am not using apt-get. using dpkg. it gives me an error that the package depends on something but was not installed
[05:23] <BlackAeronaut> myron: Brand new.  Downloaded the ISO from the site, burned it to a fresh CD-R.  No matter what route I go, I always get the Terminal and nothing more.
[05:23] <bruce89> gladiator: go into aptitude and install them
[05:23] <swayed> alkisg; could you point me in the right direction on how to repair grub on the newer bigger drive if it will not boot - Would I use Ibex Live CD?
[05:24] <gladiator> bruce89: u mean apt-get them? the package i am trying to install is not there
[05:24] <baldfaded> im having a problem with ubuntu freezing up on me
[05:25] <bruce89> gladiator: if I remember correctly, it'll be partially installed
[05:25] <gladiator> bruce89: what will be partially installed?
[05:25] <fuzeboxsoftware> wow, ubuntu definitely slower than vista when it comes to converting movie files
[05:25] <bruce89> the package you are trying
[05:25] <gladiator> how do i install them then?
[05:26] <rinovan> after update ubuntu 8.10 mysound not work?
[05:26] <myron> BlackAeronaut: And you have tried installing 64 bit ubuntu more than once?
[05:26] <fuzeboxsoftware> surprising how alot of people dog vista, works really smooth to me, especially against ubuntu, ubuntu has poor response time to me :/
[05:27] <BlackAeronaut> myron: No, this is the first time.
[05:27] <bruce89> fuzeboxsoftware: nothing forcing you to use it
[05:27] <baldfaded> you can always go back to vista if you want
[05:27] <bruce89> gladiator: start aptitude, it should offer to install what's needed
[05:27] <myron> BlackAeronaut: My best advice is to try reinstalling the OS. If that doesn't work, try installing the 32 bit version of ubuntu.
[05:28] <eus> Previously I wrote: "Does anyone aware of a problem with Remote Desktop Access in Ubuntu 8.04. Specifically, when you select `Required Encryption', no one from another Ubuntu machine can login by entering the required password." Now I got the solution: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vino/+bug/325474
[05:28] <n2diy> ! offtopic | fuseboxsoftware
[05:28] <BlackAeronaut> myron: Okay, I'll give it a go.  Good thing I got all the ISO's on a hard drive with software to mount them.  ^_^;;
[05:28] <myron> ajh2000: check your syslog "System > Administration > System Log
[05:29] <debclair> hi everyone
[05:29] <bruce89> !tab |  n2diy
[05:29] <myron> fuzeboxsoftware: no luck on the dvd authoring?
[05:29] <dermoth> bruce89, you're back... FYI you can "prevu" a dsc file directly. Thanks for pointing me to pbuilder though as it helped me understand a bit what was going on behind it :)
[05:29] <baldfaded> ubuntu freezes on me at random, what can i do to mitigate this>
[05:29] <fuzeboxsoftware> myron: using devede now, so hopefully i will be able to get something going
[05:29] <debclair> anyone used monodevelop?
[05:30] <gladiator> bruce89: how do i start aptitude? *newbie alert*
[05:30] <mib> anyon knows what should i find in apt-get for "task juggler" ?
[05:30]  * ScottG489 is away: Gone away for now
[05:30] <bruce89> dermoth: that's how it's supposed to be used
[05:30] <fuzeboxsoftware> myron: just reallyyyyyy slowwwww
[05:30] <ajh2000> myron: ok i'm in there. what am i looking for?
[05:30] <antares> hello
[05:30] <bruce89> gladiator: aptitude at the terminal
[05:30] <antares>  how monut and extract pcmcia cards?????
[05:31] <jre2> what's a good way to determine whether a harddrive is safe to store data on?  perhaps a testing program I can run overnight to determine reliability?
[05:31] <bruce89> fuzeboxsoftware: cpu optimisations
[05:31] <dermoth> bruce89, the only docs I could find on prevu used the form package[/dist] which download the package from LP (optionally for specified dist instead of latest)
[05:31] <sixofour> i have an ntfs drive on my pc, how do i access it ?
[05:31] <webdiscount> hello i have been trying to clean up my ubuntu system of unused files how?
[05:31] <fuzeboxsoftware> bruce89: what do you recommend?
[05:31] <webdiscount> some one help?
[05:31] <bruce89> fuzeboxsoftware:  nothing
[05:32] <JacksonPan> hello
[05:32] <baz> webdiscount, what do u mean by unused
[05:32] <antares>  how monut and extract (hot) pcmcia cards?
[05:32] <baz> sixofour, perhaps it appeared automatically in the file explorer (nAUTLIUS)
[05:32] <fuzeboxsoftware> i have already taken off my video driver down, because ubuntu couldn't handle it
[05:32] <fuzeboxsoftware> vista so far out performs ubuntu by a long shot
[05:32] <sixofour> well there is a little detial, i'm on kubuntu, but that channel is dead
[05:32] <bruce89> well, use it
[05:32] <webdiscount> i mean i used wine to install office 2003 and it hides away some files
[05:32] <sixofour> baz
[05:33] <n2diy> bruce89, tab auto completion doesn't always work, your nick doesn't, tab chokes on the numerals.
[05:33] <gladiator> bruce89: where will the packages be in aptitude? there are installed packages, not installed, virtual and so on.. and there are thousands of them
[05:33] <fuzeboxsoftware> bruce89: well, want to use a linux distro, but ubuntu don't seem to be the one for me, might move to centOS
[05:33] <baz> webdiscount, did it actually work thru wine?
[05:33] <sixofour> i have two drives, one with kubuntu and one is ntfs, i need to split the ntfs into two parts, format one, copy a 9gb file onto it from the other half, then fromat that half and remove the partition
[05:33] <FaMott> fuze: Have you tried a different GUI? like Xubuntu? Which is lighter?
[05:33] <baz> sixofour, ah ok, let me think
[05:34] <myron> ajh2000: edit > select all > copy & upload it to pastebin then post the link here (make sure you select today's date)
[05:34] <myron> fuzeboxsoftware: are you wanting something for media editing?
[05:34] <doleyb> fuzeboxsoftware: i don't think switching distros will be a path to improvements..
[05:34] <bruce89> gladiator: why aren't you using gdebi or some such thing?
[05:34] <webdiscount>  yeah it did only that cant sometimes see where they tranfer my downloaded or saved files
[05:34] <kindofabuzz> fuzeboxsoftware, try Crunchbang Linux, ubuntu using Openbox
[05:34] <gladiator> bruce89: whats that?
[05:34] <antares> someone nows about pcmcia cards????
[05:35] <sixofour> i have gparted open, i'm just not sure how to do the rest @ baz
[05:35] <n2diy> fuseboxsoftware, good luck, you have loads of linux distros to choose from.
[05:35] <bruce89> gladiator: or is this a cli environment?
[05:35] <kindofabuzz> hundreds
[05:35] <celeritas> FaMott: XFCE isn't a great deal lighter because you probably end up pulling in all the Gnome anyway from some random app
[05:35] <DaemonMDV> does anyone know if you can mount Ext4 noatime and writeback-only journal?
[05:35] <bruce89> not that others  make video transcoding any faster
[05:35] <sixofour> but the resize option is grey @ baz
[05:36] <webdiscount> what bother me is how to clean my system and improve its perfomance as earlier was
[05:36] <myron> fuzeboxsoftware: for media, try ubuntu studio or chainsaw linux
[05:36] <baz> sixofour, you want to mount an ntfs drive or resize a drive?
[05:36] <ajh2000> myron: where is pastebin? is it part of xchat?
[05:36] <sixofour> i have two drives, one with kubuntu and one is ntfs, i need to split the ntfs into two parts, format one, copy a 9gb file onto it from the other half, then fromat that half and remove the partition
[05:36] <baz> sixofour, this command will work: mount -t ntfs /dev/<whatever partition its> /mnt/<destination mount point>
[05:36] <lstarnes> !pastebin | ajh2000
[05:36] <baz> sixofour, but it kinda sucks that its command-line
[05:36] <myron> ajh2000: www.pastebin.com
[05:36] <Ignatius> ajh2000: http://pastebin.com/
[05:37] <baz> sixofour, gparted will help you find which drive it is, i.e. /dev/xyz
[05:37] <sixofour> i know what it is
[05:37] <baz> sixofour, but not to mount it
[05:37] <sixofour> i'm looking at it
[05:37] <baz> sixofour, what is it
[05:37] <n2diy> Ignatius, how is felix?
[05:37] <sixofour> ./dev/sda
[05:37] <BigMike> i am trying to install the latest version of wine  - but it tells me to  install the version from the software channel - What does that mean a package manager?
[05:37] <myron> has anyone ever had any luck with gentoo?
[05:38] <baz> sixofour, i just saw your other msg, try to use my name so your msg's get highlighted
[05:38] <Flannel> myron: Try #ubuntu-offtopic for offtopic discussion, thanks.
[05:39] <mf_417> Hi, we have an internal Automation System that is web based (ajax+php), I wanna develop an extension fore firefox that periodically logs into our system and checks for new mail
[05:39] <baz> sixofour, so u have an existing ntfs partition that already has files on it?
[05:39] <mf_417> when I call login.php from where files are (Same Origin) there is no problem
[05:39] <sixofour> yes
[05:39] <mf_417> but when I try to fech mails by my client, I get this error: Access to restricted URI denied (NS_ERROR_DOM_BAD_URI)
[05:39] <sixofour> its not a partition
[05:39] <sixofour> its a drive
[05:39] <n2diy> Flannel: is Xubuntu OT here? I know they have there own channel, but it is a little "lite"?
[05:39] <myron> I know it's off topic, its just, I have never had luck with it... Just curious...
[05:40] <baz> sixofour, right, same thing, and what do u mean by "remove" the second partiiotn when u copy the file?
[05:40] <sixofour> so that its one partition again
[05:40] <mf_417> Hi, we have an internal Automation System that is web based (ajax+php), I wanna develop an extension for firefox that periodically logs into our system and checks for new mail. When I call login.php from where files are (Same Origin) there is no problem, but when I try to fech mails by my client, I get this error: Access to restricted URI denied (NS_ERROR_DOM_BAD_URI)
[05:40] <sixofour> only only spliting it so i can reformat it while saving the 9gb file at the same time ^^
[05:40] <baz> sixofour, so u have 1 partition, you want to split it into 2 partitions then rejoin it back to one partitions, whats the point
[05:40] <Ignatius> n2diy: who? I must be a different Ignatius to the one you're thinking of
[05:40] <Flannel> n2diy: No, of course, they may have more luck in #xubuntu (if its XFCE specific).  Obviously, a Xubuntu issue may very well be identical to the Ubuntu issue (if its package related or whatever).  So, always best to enquire first.
[05:41] <sixofour> lol
[05:41] <sixofour> did you read my post baz?
[05:41] <sixofour> i have two drives, one with kubuntu and one is ntfs, i need to split the ntfs into two parts, format one, copy a 9gb file onto it from the other half, then fromat that half and remove the partition @ baz
[05:41] <ajh2000> myron: http://pastebin.com/m1796cc1c
[05:41] <n2diy> Flannel: 10-4
[05:42] <Lyrra> Hey guys, I'm trying to do a fresh install of 8.10 and I'm having a problem with sound
[05:42] <Lyrra> there is none
[05:42] <baz> sixofour, thats what i have been reading and i still don't get it and i'mm very smart. You have 1 ntfs drive that has 1 ntfs partition that has files on it... correct?
[05:42] <sixofour> yes
[05:42] <sixofour> i want to format it to ext3
[05:42] <n2diy> Ignatius: it is an amercian cartoon, felix the cat used to throw bricks at Ignatius.
[05:42] <sixofour> but it has a 9gb file i need
[05:42] <baz> sixofour, ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[05:42] <baz> sixofour, well say that kid
[05:43] <sixofour> so i need to format half of it first,copy the file, then finuish formating it
[05:43] <sixofour> lol
[05:43] <sixofour> the file is too big form my ubuntu drive
[05:43] <sixofour> kubu8ntu*
[05:43] <Ignatius> n2diy: Ah... well I'm half British and half Dutch so I probably wouldn't know :P
[05:44] <baz> sixofour, ok i get it, you want to convert an ntfs while juggling around the contents so u dont lose data
[05:44] <sixofour> yep
[05:44] <Lyrra> does anyone know anything about a problem with sound from a fresh install?
[05:44] <baz> sixofour, u know that this is dangerous no matter what OS/software u use and that if it is REALLY important u need to figure out a backup? how important is it?
[05:44] <n2diy> Ignatius: ok, watch out for felix! :)
[05:44] <qewrty> ciao a tutti
[05:44] <tangerine_> hi
[05:45] <gladiator> bruce89: dont know what you are talking about. i just didnt know the arguments --force-architecture and --force-all
[05:45] <myron> gladiator: Bruce89 left
[05:45] <tangerine_> can anyone here help me?
[05:45]  * felixsulla throws a brick at Ignatius 
[05:46] <n2diy> tangerine_: no, you have to ask a question first.
[05:46] <gladiator> myron: ok
[05:46] <tangerine_> Ok so the taskbar is frozen
[05:46] <n2diy> bad felixsulla!
[05:46] <baz> sixofour, i think u need to install ntfsprogs
[05:46] <Ignatius> tangerine_: hit Alt+F2 then type killall gnome-panel
[05:47] <baz> sixofour, to enable gparted to interact with ntfs
[05:47] <sixofour> its a 36gb file compressed into 9gb,
[05:47] <Ignatius> that might work
[05:47] <tangerine_> what is gnome?
[05:47] <sixofour> and i don't have enough cds anyways
[05:47] <sixofour> to burn it
[05:47] <sixofour> well, files*
[05:47] <baz> sixofour, to enable gparted to interact with ntfs
[05:47] <Ignatius> !gnome | tangerine_
[05:47] <n2diy> tangerine_: an xwindow manager, I think.
[05:47] <sixofour> apt-get install ntfsprogs?
[05:48] <stewart_> what pacakge is aclocal part of?
[05:48] <tangerine_> oh I am on windows vista
[05:48] <myron> ajh2000: I'm trying to find what is causing your problem. It is a pulseaudio error though
[05:48] <Ignatius> tangerine_: this is #ubuntu
[05:48] <tangerine_> o i am very new to this
[05:48] <sixofour> lol
[05:48] <n2diy> ! xcde
[05:48] <myron> ajh2000: did you say that you were using ubuntu intrepid?
[05:48] <tangerine_> wakka wakka wakka
[05:48] <n2diy> ! x
[05:48] <sixofour> tangerine_:  type /join ##windows
[05:48] <stewart_> how do i install automake whats the package called?
[05:49] <JacksonPan> may some can move linux to mtk platform?
[05:49] <ajh2000> myron: yes intrepid, I didn't have this problem on hardy or feisty
[05:49] <sixofour> apt-get install ntfsprogs? @baz
[05:49] <JacksonPan> may some can move linux to mtk platform?I need some one
[05:50] <n2diy> JacksonPan: what is mtk?
[05:50] <baz> sixofour, yeah with sudo before - but let me check one thing first actually
[05:50] <sixofour> ok
[05:50] <purentropy> Hi, is there a queue or may i ask a question?
[05:50] <n2diy> purentropy: ask
[05:50] <JacksonPan> n2diy:don't you kno?
[05:51] <JacksonPan> MTK
[05:51] <JacksonPan> Mediatek
[05:51] <myron> ajh2000: I had a problem with pulse audio when I first installed hardy, but I can't remember what the solution was
[05:51] <deadlyninja> i have a CDROM drive connected to an old ATA-33 cable, but ubuntu is putting it in UDMA2 and it then fails to burn cds. hdparm errors when i try to lower the dma mode, anyone know what i can do?
[05:51] <n2diy> JacksonPan: nope, never heard of it, GL.
[05:51] <JacksonPan> a featurephone
[05:51] <JacksonPan> www.imtkoo.com
[05:52] <JacksonPan> you see this
[05:52] <purentropy> I have posted on the forums and no one seems to know... I am have issues with 8.10 LiveCD.  The system hangs at this error [ 97.125547] ata6: PATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0x170 ctl 0x376 bmdma 0xffa8 irq 15
[05:52] <puppypusher> Anyone here run WoW on Direct X in WINE?
[05:52] <myron> ajh2000: try this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=866965
[05:52] <purentropy> can anyone make sense of this error?
[05:52] <sixofour> puppypusher:  wow is one of the most played games with Wine, of course
[05:52] <JacksonPan> oh, my god
[05:52] <JacksonPan> you don't know Chinese
[05:53] <JDStone> when a friend of mine unplugs his power adapter from his laptop, it goes into standby, any ideas?
[05:53] <puppypusher> sixofour: I've installed the DirectX Redistributable under Wine, and it now works. However, my framerate is horrible. OpenGL is not an option, as every registry and config.wtf tweak known to man does not get rid of artefacts and blackbox logins. Any ideas?
[05:54] <purentropy> It never gets to the Desktop so I can't type anything in terminal to see if it isn't recognizing some of the hardware... Any ideas?
[05:54] <sixofour> I myself don't puppypusher
[05:54] <puppypusher> Hrm.
[05:54] <n2diy> JDStone: research APM, automatic power management, it messys with my battery too, and I'm running a desktop.
[05:54] <sixofour> but i know its been played enough that there is a way to play with ogl, try #winehq
[05:54] <myron> JDStone: check the settings in power management? System > preferences > power management
[05:55] <puppypusher> sixofour, I've done everything they have said, including the actual registry fix for artefacting in OpenGL. It makes no difference. :P lol
[05:55] <sixofour> oh
[05:55] <warlord> what will i need from repo to compile a driver?
[05:55] <sixofour> play wow on lowest settings?
[05:55] <sixofour> lol
[05:55] <JDStone> n2diy: hmm, i will. thank you
[05:55] <sixofour> i ddi for ahwile
[05:55] <sixofour> did*
[05:55] <JDStone> myron: checked there, no go
[05:55] <FloodBot2> sixofour: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:55] <JDStone> nothing
[05:55] <n2diy> JDStone: nada, GL
[05:55] <puppypusher> Lowest and highest settings do not change the framerate.
[05:56] <ajh2000> myron: gee, it looks intense! I'll check it out. Thanks
[05:56] <purentropy> n2diy: did you get my question?
[05:56] <JDStone> yep :)
[05:56] <n2diy> purentropy: no
[05:56] <sixofour> then it sounds like maby a system problem?
[05:56] <koshari> warlord usually "build essentual"
[05:56] <sixofour> what addons?
 I have posted on the forums and no one seems to know... I am have issues with 8.10 LiveCD.  The system hangs at this error [ 97.125547] ata6: PATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0x170 ctl 0x376 bmdma 0xffa8 irq 15
[05:56] <myron> ajh2000: be sure to save that link in case it causes you more problems, you can always refer back to that post to tell others what you have done.
[05:57] <sixofour> @ baz still here?
[05:57] <puppypusher> I don't think it's system. Video chipset drivers are installed correctly, and native/DxDiag tests come out perfect.
[05:57] <terminhell> Hi all! Ok im running 8.10 fully updated, and im trying to get this: http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/ttywallpapers?content=100774 :  its a tty wallpaper. Im not exactly sure how to install/use em. I have the "Startup Manager" installed and installed (i think) in the bootsplash option, but when i switch to a tty screen its still just text based. Any ideas???
[05:57] <sixofour> what addons though puppypusher
[05:57] <purentropy> i cannot get to the desktop from the live cd so i can't run commands in terminal to see what happened.
[05:57] <ajh2000> myron: ok sure
[05:57] <n2diy> purentropy: no, did you use my nick?
[05:57] <puppypusher> No addons, sixofour. Using the bare minimum
[05:57] <AmyRose> !pm | allowoverride
[05:57] <sixofour> heh
[05:57] <JDStone> and it started all of the sudden out of the blue just recently
[05:57] <sixofour> nvidia card?
[05:58] <sixofour> try the omega drivers, they are old but they might work
[05:58] <sixofour> they have a linux version of them iirc
[05:58] <puppypusher> No, not nvidia. Intel 945GM chipset.
[05:58] <purentropy> n2diy: <purentropy> I am have issues with 8.10 LiveCD.  The system hangs at this error [ 97.125547] ata6: PATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0x170 ctl 0x376 bmdma 0xffa8 irq 15
[05:58] <Patrick_O> Hello. I have this script:
[05:58] <Patrick_O> #!/bin/sh -x
[05:58] <Patrick_O> export PAPARAZZI_HOME=/home/patrick/paparazzi3
[05:58] <Patrick_O> export PAPARAZZI_SRC=/home/patrick/paparazzi3
[05:58] <Patrick_O>  /./home/patrick/paparazzi3/sw/ground_segment/tmtc/link  -d /dev/ttyUSB0 &
[05:58] <FloodBot2> Patrick_O: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:58] <Patrick_O>  /./home/patrick/paparazzi3/sw/ground_segment/tmtc/server &
[05:58] <sixofour> uh
[05:58] <sixofour> have you ever played wow with that>?
[05:59] <sixofour> sounds crappy lol
[05:59] <puppypusher> Yep, for a year. 40+ FPS
[05:59] <sixofour> oh
[05:59] <webdiscount> Baz i mean like you would do on a window os by cleaning up drive  removing cookies and the like
[05:59] <sixofour> i didn't even know intel made vdeio
[05:59] <n2diy> purentropy: ok, yes, I saw that, and I have no clue, sorry.
[05:59] <puppypusher> I switch to Ubuntu, use Wine...can't get over 10fps, and 3 if I'm not staring at a wall
[05:59] <baz> sixofour, yeah i'm here, so thats the answer - sudo apt-get install ntfsprogs - then restarted gparted
[05:59] <warlord> koshari: thanks for that what about for the command "make" and "tcl"
[06:00] <sixofour> look for 3rd aprty drivers for your chip
[06:00] <sixofour> ati/nvidia both have omega drivers
[06:00] <sixofour> dunno about intel
[06:00] <puppypusher> Hm. I'll check, but I highly doubt it.
[06:00] <crdlb> what is an omega driver?
[06:00] <sixofour> omega drivers are 3rd party drivers for nvidia and ati cards
[06:00] <sixofour> they are a bit old though, but they work fine
[06:00] <puppypusher> Nope, not supported
[06:01] <crdlb> it's a repository of nvidia and ati'd proprietary drivers?
[06:01] <sixofour> no
[06:01] <baz> webdiscount, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=140920
[06:01] <sixofour> its a 3rd party driver
[06:01] <sixofour> someone wrote their own driver
[06:01] <crdlb> intel comes with builtin acceleration via xserver-xorg-video-intel
[06:01] <sixofour> works with any nvidia and any ati
[06:01] <puppypusher> Correct, crdlb.
[06:01] <crdlb> sixofour: for X?
[06:01] <purentropy> n2diy: do you know where I can find the meaning of this message besides google?
[06:01] <sixofour> for windows and linux
[06:01] <sixofour> dion't know much more than that :D
[06:02] <terminhell>  Hi all! Ok im running 8.10 fully updated, and im trying to get this: http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/ttywallpapers?content=100774 :  its a tty wallpaper. Im not exactly sure how to install/use em. I have the "Startup Manager" installed and installed (i think) in the bootsplash option, but when i switch to a tty screen its still just text based. Any ideas???
[06:02] <puppypusher> It just bugs me that WoW won't run in OpenGL with all tweaks and registry adjustments, and in DirectX, my framerate is unacceptable low.
[06:02] <sixofour> crdlb: :thumb115462687:
[06:02] <mib_6yvcl3> what is your favorite gui ?
[06:02] <sixofour> oops
[06:02] <sixofour> wrong link lol
[06:02] <mib_6yvcl3> I tried gnome, kde, e17, fvwm-crystal
[06:02] <sixofour> http://www.omegadrivers.net/
[06:02] <baz> webdiscount, it seems there is also an app called bleachpit that does it - i have never tried it but here's a site: http://blogs.vinuthomas.com/2009/02/04/clean-up-unwanted-files-in-ubuntu-bleachbit/
[06:02] <sixofour> crdlb:
[06:02] <Ignatius> I am aware that ubottu has a dictionary of ubuntu based terms. Is there a list online anywhere of all the terms it knows?
[06:03] <sixofour> !term
[06:03] <sixofour> !termlist
[06:03] <n2diy> purentropy: #ubuntu-kernel?
[06:03] <jtaji> !ubottu | Ignatius
[06:03] <Ignatius> ah there we go... thanks jtaji ^_^
[06:03] <crdlb> sixofour: err, 1) that's windows-only and 2) he's just tweaking the existing ATI and NVIDIA drivers
[06:04] <koshari> warlord depending on the source, you usually only need make and makeinstall
[06:05] <puppypusher> Anyone know about making WoW work under Direct X with decent framerate?
[06:05] <purentropy> n2diy: cool thanks
[06:05] <sixofour> guess i was wrong
[06:05] <deadlyninja> is there a way to get my cdroms to use the old driver that showed up as /dev/hdX instead of /dev/sr0?
[06:07] <bz0b> anyone have that problem where your tty console looks like it's having a siezure
[06:07] <sixofour> puppypusher:  what direct x?
[06:07] <puppypusher> DirectX9 under Wine
[06:07] <sixofour> oh
[06:07] <puppypusher> Installing the DirectX9 under Wine is what got my WoW working.
[06:07] <puppypusher> Now I just need my framerates good
[06:07] <sixofour> baz there was an error :(
[06:08] <sixofour> ugh
[06:09] <sixofour> it won't resize it baz
[06:09] <sixofour> don't suppose you know where i can upload 9 gigs do you? lol
[06:10] <puppypusher> Is there a WoW channel?
[06:10] <sixofour> probably not on freenode
[06:10] <puppypusher> Hmm.
[06:11] <puppypusher> Apparently people can't ever get DirectX working under Wine, and I did. So...no one knows how to help solve framerate issues lol
[06:11] <bz0b> anyone having a problem with their tty's where the print is unreadable and it keeps jumping around
[06:11] <bz0b> i think my frame buffer is messing up or something
[06:11] <sixofour> ive played wow in wine before
[06:11] <sixofour> lol
[06:11] <puppypusher> Using OpenGL, I'm sure
[06:16] <purentropy> I cannot boot from the LiveCD 8.10.  I have Nvidia Nforce 630i chipset.  WDC 500GB SATA HDD. No externals plugged in besides monitor,keyboard,mouse,ethernet.  System Hangs at ata6: PATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0x170 ctl 0x376 bmdma 0xffa8 irq 15
[06:17] <cak054> u
[06:17] <ZykoticK9> purentropy, do you have SATA or IDE drives?
[06:17] <purentropy> 1 SATA Drive 500 GB WD
[06:17] <ZykoticK9> purentropy, so the error seems to be regarding you DVD or CDROM drive then the PATA suggests it's an IDE error???
[06:18] <n2diy> purentropy: is it a clean drive?
[06:18] <mythril> anyone know what might be causing long-term connections (http dowloads) to timeout (it happens with every site I visit that has more than 10k of info on the page)?
[06:18] <purentropy> n2diy: the drive contains a windows xp single partition with NTSC all the way through
[06:19] <moxisi> no chinese
[06:19] <n2diy> ! cn | moxisi
[06:19] <purentropy> zykotic: I can see how it can be an IDE error.  Let me explain.
[06:19] <sixofour> so i found my data drive in dolphin its "new volume" and its mounted as such, but when i click it, it asks for sudo then does nothing
[06:20] <n2diy> purentropy: roger that. I tried to dual boot Hardy on XP recently, with no luck.
[06:20] <m1chael> i got an asus eeepc netbook... it's got windows xp on it.. i'd like to dual boot with it... i read that there are some issues with hardware... anyone have an eeepc 1000ha ?
[06:20] <puppypusher> Anyone running WoW in WINE using DirectX, not OpenGL?
[06:21] <jtaji> m1chael: I don't have one (yet) but you might want to also ask in #eeepc
[06:22] <doleyb> m1chael: I've heard the trouble is maybe ubuntu's atheros driver doesn't work right with the eepc's wireless chip.  But you can install a newer driver than ubuntu has,
[06:23] <purentropy> zykotic: I had to remove 'quiet splash' from the boot optoins. i replaced it with 'noapic nolapic nosplash' -- which got me to a system HANG at the line i typed before.  If i also enter 'all_generic_ide' -- I get to [ 102.101170] sd 6:0:0:3: [sdd] Attached SCSI Removal Disk
[06:23] <scotlfs> Hey I gotta question for a develop if there is one here that knows Wine and about compiling wine on Intrepid. I need Xlib/Xfree86 packages, I however don't know which package provides those resources
[06:23] <doleyb> m1chael: (See this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24/+bug/182489 )
[06:24] <puppypusher> Anyone running WoW in Wine using DirectX?
[06:24] <purentropy> so i went ahead an assumed the IDE error and just forced it to do IDE even though i had SATA just to try to get to the Desktop to run Terminal Commands.
[06:24] <ZykoticK9> puppypusher, i certainly don't mean to start an argument, but I'm pretty sure that wine is still using OpenGL, even though you have DirectX installed, I've even gotten a game which requires DX10 to work with wine - but your still not really using DirectX to render things, it's going through an OpenGL translation I'm pretty sure.
[06:24] <purentropy> Zykotic: so the first error occurrs without the 'all_generic_ide', the one i just posted, [ 102.101170] sd 6:0:0:3: [sdd] Attached SCSI Removal Disk... occurs when i use it.
[06:25] <purentropy> Zykotic: either way I cannot get to the LIveCD Desktop.
[06:25] <ZykoticK9> purentropy, what sort of system are you using here?
[06:25] <n2diy> purentropy: you can run terminal commands without the desktop.
[06:25] <puppypusher> Allow me to clarify: I've installed DirectX9.0C redistrubatble under Wine.
[06:25] <mercutio22> ZykoticK9> why do you think so?
[06:25] <puppypusher> And am using it, and not the -OpenGL option under Wine.
[06:25] <jtaji> scotlfs: 'apt-get build-dep wine' should get you every lib you need to build it
[06:25] <purentropy> Wine uses OpenGL
[06:25] <scotlfs> jtaji, thanks
[06:26] <puppypusher> Okay....let me clarify further...
[06:26] <mercutio22> purentropy> in spite of installing directx in wine?
[06:26] <purentropy> n2diy: how?
[06:26] <sebsebseb> puppypusher: you want to be able to play Directx 10 games in Ubuntu?
[06:26] <ZykoticK9> mercutio22, why do i think what?  the OpenGL thing?  I don't really think that DirectX under wine has direct access to the hardware, I believe that there is some sort of OpenGL translation going on under wine.  I could be wrong.
[06:26] <purentropy> mercurtio: actually you make a good point.
[06:26] <puppypusher> You can run WoW in Wine two ways: DirectX, or OpenGL. Most people force WoW to run in OpenGL in order for it to work. For me, it doesn't. But does when I set it to use DirectX9 for Wow. But my framerate is trash.
[06:26] <jtaji> scotlfs: also if you just need the latest build, winehq has a repo for ubuntu
[06:26] <sebsebseb> purentropy: you want to be able to play DIrectx 10 games in Ubuntu?
[06:27] <puppypusher> No, no DirectX 10. Just DirectX9 with WoW in Wine.
[06:27] <sebsebseb> guys LOL
[06:27] <sebsebseb> good news
[06:27] <n2diy> purentropy: use the boot options the install program gives you
[06:27] <sebsebseb> http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2009/03/10/directx-10-for-mac-os-and-linux/1
[06:27] <purentropy> sebsebseb: no. i was answering a question for merc
[06:27] <puppypusher> <----Am puppypusher
[06:27] <sebsebseb> yeah yeah my tab complete got mixed up or whatever
[06:27] <quibbler> purentropy: did you change bios to ide from ahci before you added 'all_generic_ide'
[06:27] <purentropy> n2diy: i am trying to install the OS...
[06:28] <purentropy> quibbler: no, i have optimized defaults
[06:28] <n2diy> purentropy: from what?
[06:28] <purentropy> n2diy: the livecd
[06:28] <mercutio22> ZykoticK9> I see
[06:28] <kiki_cwo> agus
[06:28] <node357> installed teamspeak, can't get the mic to work on SB Live 5.1 card
[06:28] <purentropy> quibbler: can you explain why i would need to do that?
[06:29] <n2diy> purentropy: so when the CD boots select your langauage, hit F1 for help, find the root shell option, and bingo, your in a terminal.
[06:29] <purentropy> n2diy: i only have the one line to type boot options when i press F6 from the boot screen.
[06:29] <quibbler> purentropy: you have windows on the machine?
[06:29] <puppypusher> *yawn*
[06:29] <purentropy> quibbler: yes
[06:29] <purentropy> n2diy: thank you!
[06:29] <error404notfound> how can print system cpu, load, swap and memory usage in a file after certain intervals?
[06:30] <n2diy> purentropy: GL
[06:30] <purentropy> quibbler: windows xp (NTSC)
[06:30] <scotlfs> jtaji: thanks, but I have patch that I need to apply to wine and compile and install it to an alternate --prefix until the main ubuntu release has the patch included....I used to be a source monkey, but that wasn't a distribution it was my own rollup of linux, anyway that was many years ago and deb and apt-get and such are very new to me
[06:30] <n2diy> error404notfound: top
[06:30] <error404notfound> n2diy: does top support output data to a file?
[06:30] <mrweektor> unrelated new question: how can i tell if i'm using open jre or sun jre?
[06:30] <jtaji> scotlfs: no prob, have fun
[06:31] <skar> hi, how do i compile glibc from source on hardy?
[06:31] <n2diy> error404notfound: you have to learn how to "redirect" or "pipe" it to a file, GL
[06:31] <error404notfound> n2diy: top -b seems good..
[06:31] <error404notfound> n2diy: I do know :P
[06:31] <scotlfs> jtaji, no fun at all actually...there is a reason I don't do this anymore
[06:32] <scotlfs> but I need my app to work
[06:32] <quibbler> purentropy: I had a similar problem with my kid's computer and solved it by changing that in the bios then i could install
[06:32] <puppypusher> Anyone running WoW in WINE without OpenGL?
[06:32] <n2diy> error404notfound: cool, you know more than I do!
[06:32] <error404notfound> n2diy: hmmm, not really :P
[06:32] <purentropy> quibbler: i see, i'll look into this.  thank you for the help.
[06:33] <magnetron> puppypusher→ that is an uncommon setup
[06:33] <puppypusher> I know it is. :P
[06:33] <puppypusher> And I'm running it without any graphics problems, or artefacts.
[06:33] <puppypusher> I just need to know how I can boost my FPS.
[06:33] <node357> installed teamspeak, can't get the mic to work on SB Live 5.1 card
[06:34] <mgolisch> get a decent graphics card?
[06:34] <magnetron> puppypusher→ choose opengl. :D that's how you boost the fps
[06:34] <puppypusher> lol....
[06:34] <magnetron> puppypusher→ i'm serious
[06:34] <puppypusher> WoW will not work for me under OpenGL
[06:34] <mgolisch> puppypusher: why not?
[06:34] <puppypusher> I've tried every registry tweak and config.wtf tweak known to mankind.
[06:34] <erictus> hi need hepl for my vsftp
[06:34] <puppypusher> I haven't the slightest clue.
[06:34] <mgolisch> puppypusher: it must be telling you something
[06:35] <mgolisch> like an error message
[06:35] <puppypusher> It's not.
[06:35] <puppypusher> No errors.
[06:35] <ZykoticK9> "registry tweak" lol
[06:35] <mgolisch> or something
[06:35] <mgolisch> what happens then?
[06:35] <mgolisch> what makes it not work in comparison to running it in dx mode?
[06:35] <puppypusher> Loader runs, WoW starts, and everything has artefacts with black login boxes.
[06:36] <magnetron> puppypusher→ http://www.wowwiki.com/Wine and http://www.wowwiki.com/Troubleshooting_Wine
[06:37] <puppypusher> Done everything on both of those pages.
[06:37] <plus91> #blacklight@blacklight.gotdns.org
[06:37] <mgolisch> you dont run compiz do you?
[06:37] <puppypusher> Like I said, config.wtf is set up correctly, with all the aforementioned tweaks and registry strings.
[06:37] <plus91> hello
[06:37] <puppypusher> Nope. Compiz=trash
[06:38] <plus91> Compiz is very cool
[06:38] <mgolisch> no its not
[06:38] <plus91> but i prefer use the classic shell
[06:38] <plus91> :D
[06:39] <puppypusher> In context, my friend.
[06:39] <puppypusher> Compiz+Wine is a nono.
[06:39] <mgolisch> puppypusher: whats your graphics card?
[06:39] <puppypusher> All sorts of...crazy things happen.
[06:39] <puppypusher> Intel 945GM Chipset.
[06:39] <mgolisch> ..
[06:40] <koshari> puppypusher  i would be suprised if you get good framerates with that gpu, its ancient
[06:40] <agus> hyyyyyyyyyy
[06:40] <puppypusher> It's in a 2 year old laptop. But fwiw, I got 50+ FPS under Windows.
[06:40] <plus91> 	
[06:40] <plus91> I do so to save resources to limit use the Fluxbox
[06:40] <n2diy> gnu???
[06:40] <plus91> :D
[06:40] <mgolisch> if it doenst work in opengl mode forget it
[06:41] <puppypusher> Not necessarily, mgolisch.
[06:41] <mgolisch> sure
[06:41] <mgolisch> the gpu is way too weak
[06:41] <puppypusher> My card does support OpenGL, and have ran plenty of OpenGL applications with it.
[06:41] <n2diy> mgolisch: what is gnu?
[06:41] <plus91> if emerald nò try more 'heavy but beautiful
[06:41] <mgolisch> n2diy: its not unix i guess
[06:42] <mgolisch> :)
[06:42] <puppypusher> I'm not arguing that it's weak, but I do say that an Operating System is not a GPU.
[06:42] <plus91> gnu=linux is very operating system
[06:42] <plus91> no WIndows
[06:42] <plus91> !
[06:42] <puppypusher> So, the GPU should still be....a GPU regardless of wether I run Linux or Windows. So there is no reason why my video card should handle OpenGL any differently in Linux than it does in Windows.
[06:42] <n2diy> mgolisch: close, "gnu is not linux" But what does gnu have to do with linux, besides Unix?
[06:43] <puppypusher> Changing operating systems shouldn't affect the physical capabilities of my hardware. That's a bunch of bunk.
[06:44] <mgolisch> its basicaly what all linux distros borrow their userland from
[06:44] <mgolisch> they all use ports of the gnu operatingsystems userland toos to linux
[06:44] <mgolisch> tools
[06:44] <n2diy> puppypusher: what is a GPU?
[06:44] <koshari> plus91 emerald with reflections liooks very nice.
[06:45] <puppypusher> Graphical Processing Unit.
[06:45] <n2diy> puppypusher: so if one operating system can work with the GPU, and the other one can't, you don't think you'd see a change in system performance?
[06:46] <plus91> koshari :D:D:D But many wasted resources
[06:46] <puppypusher> Oh no, I sure can. But when both operating systems can use the same two different graphics technology....
[06:46] <puppypusher> Well, you get it :P
[06:47] <mgolisch> they cant
[06:47] <mgolisch> linux cant do anything with dx
[06:47] <plus91> n2diy  :D google is your friend :D
[06:47] <puppypusher> There is no reason why my GPU would be weak in Linux, but more than strong enough in Windows...unless of course, Linux is a resource hog...OR, as the case is...my setup isn't configured correctly.
[06:47] <n2diy> puppypusher: no I don' get it, some OSes have drivers, and some don't.
[06:47] <magnetron> puppypusher→ it's a matter of drivers
[06:47] <n2diy> plus91: ???
[06:47] <puppypusher> Yes. And I have drivers.
[06:48] <puppypusher> They are all installed, without a problem.
[06:48] <mgolisch> still linux cant do anything with dx
[06:48] <magnetron> puppypusher→ that's not the issue.
[06:48] <puppypusher> It can under Wine, mgolisch.
[06:48] <mgolisch> no
[06:48] <plus91> asked why the thing was still sorry for the GPU
[06:48] <puppypusher> Have you never been able to install Dx under Wine? lol........
[06:48] <mgolisch> wine basicaly rebuilds stubs of the dll librarys in which they use opengl stuff internal
[06:49] <magnetron> puppypusher→ you thought that your GPU did most of the work... actually most things happen in the driver
[06:49] <mgolisch> it basicaly translates dx functions calls in something they think is the equivalent in opengl
[06:49] <puppypusher> If that is the case, why would I need to differentiate between OpenGl and DirectX9 in my config?
[06:49] <mgolisch> you cant realy compare that
[06:49] <puppypusher> So, if my OpenGL is broken, or doesn't work...
[06:49] <puppypusher> How come it works just fine in "DirectX"? :P
[06:49] <magnetron> puppypusher→ no. you misunderstand it
[06:50] <magnetron> puppypusher→ you could try asking in #winehq too, you'll get the same answer
[06:50] <puppypusher> That's fine. But what I am saying, out of the 1,000 WoW/Wine Wiki's there are on the internet, there is a differentiation between running WoW in OpenGL, OR DirectX.
[06:51] <puppypusher> Otherwise, it wouldn't have me configure it for either/or.
[06:51] <arshad> How do Install Latest Flash PLayer in 4.8
[06:51] <arshad> ??
[06:51] <arshad> had downloaded the file in Deb package installer
[06:51] <magnetron> puppypusher→ yes. that's because they are different API's for WoW
[06:51] <magnetron> arshad→ double click the .deb file please
[06:52] <puppypusher> Yes. But why would I need to tell Wine to use OpenGL, if it already does?
[06:52] <arshad> than installed ,  but after that also Youtube  site says need to install latest flash player
  Yes i did that
[06:52] <arshad> than
[06:52] <magnetron> arshad→ restart firefox
[06:52] <Silkjc> I cannot work out why Nvidia won't work if I have all my ram in: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6875418#post6875418
[06:52] <Silkjc> Just makes no sense
     OK
[06:52] <ZykoticK9> magnetron, FYI I have a die-hard WOW friend and although he has WOW running very well under linux (with the advantage that he can switch windows and browse the web while playing and not have people sneak up behind him) he gets better frame rates in Windows then under linux, and thus plays mainly in Windows (i believe he's using the OpenGL in WOW but I'm not sure).  Good luck man (PS. your Intel Graphics are never going to compare to an Nvidia car
[06:52] <ZykoticK9> d)
[06:53] <magnetron> ZykoticK9→ thank you, but didn't mean to say that to puppypusher?
[06:53] <puppypusher> ....did anyone say that intel was good? Hahahaha.
[06:53] <mgolisch> you seem to
     same message on the site
[06:54] <arshad> ?
[06:54] <ZykoticK9> sorry magnetron yes i meant puppypusher (note to self, beer + irc = mistakes)
[06:54] <puppypusher> No, I said it is good enough. Read.
[06:54] <mgolisch> hehe
[06:54] <magnetron> ZykoticK9→ don't drink and idle!
[06:54] <puppypusher> 50+ FPS in Windows is just fine for me, at the moment. I didn't ask your opinion on my graphics card.
[06:54] <n2diy> ZykoticK9: and lots of fun.
[06:54] <puppypusher> Thanks :)
[06:54] <piyushchandraind> plz s1 help me, i couldnt install / run live CD of ubuntu...
[06:55] <piyushchandraind> it works fine on my friend's comp
[06:55] <n2diy> piyushchandraind: what works fine on your friends computer, the install cD?
[06:55] <gloom_> Hi
[06:55] <magnetron> puppypusher→ your questions are more and more turning into some sort of "explain to me why something would behave different in windows and linux/wine"
     same message on the site
[06:56] <arshad__> ?
     same message on the site
[06:56] <gloom_> is someone else having problems with xchat-gnome in 8.10?
[06:56] <magnetron> arshad__→ ok, then i don't know
[06:56] <arshad__>                                                                   Anyone else
[06:56] <mgolisch> no idea, xchat-gnome is bad
[06:56] <mgolisch> use xchat-gtk
[06:56] <arshad__>                                                                                Help PLzzz
[06:56] <mgolisch> or whatever is the other version
[06:57] <arshad__> Problem with Installing latest Flash PLayer
[06:57] <erictus> hello
[06:57] <arshad__> for YOu TUbe
[06:57] <gloom_> "is bad" is a little ambiguous:D why don't you like it?
[06:57] <puppypusher> Yes, they are. Only in response to the questions I have been asked.
[06:57] <rww> mgolisch: it's just called "xchat"
[06:57] <n2diy> xchat-gnome work well with 8.04 LTS
[06:57] <puppypusher> Excellent observation.
[06:57] <puppypusher> What I would truly like to know, is how I can boost my framerate under WoW.
[06:57] <n2diy> ty
[06:57] <magnetron> !wine | puppypusher
[06:58] <mgolisch> puppypusher: in dx mode? get a better gpu
[06:58] <mgolisch> we told you before
[06:58] <puppypusher> There's no such thing as "dx" in Linux, remember? lol...
[06:58] <piyushchandraind> n2di : sorry, i was away for some time..
[06:58] <n2diy> mgolisch: what is dx mode?
[06:58] <gloom_> Here, xchat from the menu icon does nothing, and running it from terminal gives me: XChat CRITICAL *** default event text failed to build!
[06:58] <puppypusher> It's the supposed "DirectX" that doesn't exist in Linux, only OpenGl.
[06:58] <piyushchandraind> the cd is shipped from ubuntu,
[06:58] <magnetron> puppypusher→ for help with specific applications (like WoW), you'll need to ask in the #winehq channel. good luck
[06:58] <mgolisch> or get a faster cpu , or maybe both
[06:58] <gloom_> sorry, not xchat, but xchat-gnome
[06:59] <Dezine> Hoe can I set my servers internal IP adress to be static? I'm behind a router and it keeps changing.
[06:59] <Dezine> How*
[06:59] <piyushchandraind> n2dy: i was asked to use boot commands like noapic, etc.. i tried alll but no use
[06:59] <mgolisch> puppypusher: the problem is just the wrapper libraries might not be optimal, whereas when the game uses opengl they can have it wrap 1:1 to the opengl api present in linux
[06:59] <magnetron> Dezine→ depends on your router
[07:00] <puppypusher> Now that makes 100% more sense. I can work with that.
[07:00] <gloom_> anyway, not a big deal.
[07:00] <magnetron> puppypusher, mgolisch→ please take it to #winehq
[07:00] <n2diy> gloom_:  how long have you been playing with Ubuntu/Linuux?
[07:00] <SilentJonathan> join #c
[07:00] <Dezine> I have a Linksys WRT54G router with custom firmware so whatever needs to be done shouldn't be an issue
[07:00] <mgolisch> so its less overhead and less possible mistakes and so on
[07:00] <puppypusher> Understood
[07:00] <magnetron> Dezine→ Consult the manual /support groups for that custom firmware
[07:01] <mgolisch> but #winehq can probably explain better
[07:01] <mgolisch> :)
[07:01] <puppypusher> :P
[07:01] <gloom_> Does anyone know how to make the gnome network manager applet, to start always with the wlan off? everytime I log in, it starts looking for wlan networks automatically....
[07:01] <jtaji> Dezine: the easiest way then is to set so-called "static DHCP" on your router, it can give the same IP to a machine based on MAC address
[07:01] <Dezine> What does that have to do with setting a static IP in Ubuntu? I doubt they'll be able to help.
[07:01] <n2diy> gloom_: right click on it?
[07:02] <erictus> screen -r
[07:02] <LimeBurst> how should i start being a ubuntu developer?
[07:02] <rww> !contribute | LimeBurst
[07:02] <gloom_> n2diy, yeah I know how to disable the wlan adapter. But I want it to memorize the state, after a reboot. When the applet starts it automatically start the wlan device, and I think it shouldn't
[07:03] <gloom_> n2diy, If I have the wlan disabled, and I reboot, I don't see why I have to disable it again.
[07:03] <erictus> screen -ls
[07:04] <n2diy> gloom_:  roger that. research /etc/init
[07:05] <n2diy> LimeBurst: go to the webpage, and click on support
[07:05] <disappearedng> Hey is there a software engineering channel around?
[07:05] <n2diy> disappearedng: what language?
[07:05] <Titan8990> disappearedng, there is a programming language for nearly every language
[07:05] <doleyb> disappearedng: there's ##workingset, but not exactly
[07:05] <LimeBurst> ok
[07:05] <LimeBurst> thanks
[07:06] <Titan8990> disappearedng, err meant programming channel....
[07:06] <n2diy> disappearedng: try #language, where language is what you want to engineer with.
[07:07] <clueneeded> Running ubuntu 8.10.  I have a VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 01).   Goal: be able to have a choice of resolutions rather than the 640x480 installed by default.  Already tried to go to "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" - got the screen for the keyboard settings, then it went back to the command line.  Xserver...
[07:07] <clueneeded> ...did not bring up resolution adjustments.  The driver will not install at all, even from the command line.  Update Manager downloads 42 files, then does not list them and the "install updates" button is grayed out.  After some research, I am finding that the solution might be to to re-edit the xorg.conf file and specify resolution.  Questions: 1: is this true and 2: what exactly do I put...
[07:07] <disappearedng> just soft eng in generall
[07:07] <clueneeded> ...in the xorg.conf file for this particular video card?
[07:07] <FloodBot2> clueneeded: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:08] <clueneeded> note: this is NOT nvidia we are talking about - plus some ancient generic monitor - in case that is relevant.  :)
[07:09] <n2diy> clueneeded: are you aware of the ctrl+alt ++ and ctrl+alt+- keyboad commands?
[07:09] <clueneeded> nope
[07:09] <Titan8990> clueneeded, usually not due to needing to add resolutions to xorg, usually means you need to specify a driver in xorg
[07:09] <clueneeded> n2diy - rather no...
[07:09] <sixofour> so i have a 160gb ntfs drive, i want to format it for ext3, but it has a 9gb file i need, so i need to juggle it by formating half the drive,moving the file, then formating the rest, gparted is finally able toresize the drive but i cannot access the ntfs part to copy the file :/
[07:09] <Titan8990> clueneeded, vesa (fallback drivers) have their limitations
[07:10] <ripps> Hey, does anybody know a good internet radio client (shout, last.fm, etc.) that I can just place in my system tray and forget about it?
[07:10] <Titan8990> sixofour, no 2nd drive with 9gb of space?
[07:10] <sixofour> nope
[07:10] <sixofour> my OS drive is 8gb
[07:10] <Titan8990> sixofour, lol is it a thumb drive?
[07:10] <sixofour> i couldn't resize the drive at first so i ran chkdsk and i can now
[07:10] <sixofour> its a hard drive
[07:10] <clueneeded> titan8990: what is the text that i am supposed to put in?
[07:11] <clueneeded> right now, it
[07:11] <Titan8990> clueneeded, I have no idea which drivers that card needs but I can show you what the section needs to look like
[07:11] <clueneeded> titan8990: please do so
[07:11] <clueneeded> titan: since the drivers won't install anyway
[07:12] <piyushchandraind> when i run LiveCD it works partially and it opens something like DOS prompt saying.. "BusyBox v1.10.2 .......builtin shell(ash) Enter 'help' for a list of builtin commands.. (initramfs) _
[07:12] <Titan8990> clueneeded, they are installed, they just are not being loaded
[07:12] <clueneeded> titan: really
[07:12] <sixofour> so any ideas?
[07:12] <clueneeded> titan: i hope so  :)
[07:12] <piyushchandraind> :-(
[07:12] <Titan8990> clueneeded, if you have the xorg meta package (default) then you have all opensource graphics drivers
[07:12] <Meckin> Hey my borther thought it maybe funny to delete my usr/bin files. Anyone know how to reinstall them?
[07:12] <sixofour> ripps:  any music player?
[07:13] <n2diy> piyushchandraind: have you verified the disk burn? If it does the same thing, I'm told, it is a coaster.
[07:13] <Titan8990> Meckin, backup and reinstall the whole system....
[07:13] <Meckin> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/ dpkg returned an error code (100)*
[07:13] <consoleart> hi all, i am using avant windows navigator and it seems to be very slow
[07:13] <clueneeded> titan: i understand that any intel vid card tends to be linux friendly... so that would make sense
[07:13] <ripps> sixofour: I just wanted something simple and lightweight
[07:13] <consoleart> is there any other navigator that i can use ?
[07:13] <consoleart> ubuntu 8.10 is the version iam using
[07:13] <clueneeded> so what verbiage do i paste into xorg?
[07:13] <Titan8990> consoleart, you can try cairo dock
[07:14] <n2diy> consoleart: what kind of navigator?
[07:14] <consoleart> avant windows navigator
[07:14] <consoleart> Titan: cairo - is it good ?
[07:14] <Titan8990> clueneeded, http://pastebin.com/d6a7645f0
[07:14] <Titan8990> consoleart, matter of opinion
[07:15] <clueneeded> Titan8990: thanks - gotta say i am a bit paranoid... last time someone here gave me someting in pastebin like that, it was to change the word
[07:16] <clueneeded> visa to intel
[07:16] <clueneeded> vesa
[07:16] <clueneeded> and i ended up with a blank
[07:16] <Titan8990> clueneeded, I typically recommend making a backup first
[07:16] <simplexio>  http://keskustelu.suomi24.fi/show.fcgi?category=116&conference=4500000000000371&posting=22000000042357367
[07:16] <Titan8990> clueneeded, because there is a lot that can go wrong when editing xorg
[07:16] <clueneeded> display - i wll need whatever commands i need to get back to a backup default
[07:16] <Titan8990> clueneeded, sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak
[07:17] <clueneeded> cool
[07:17] <Titan8990> clueneeded, things don't work just switch that up:  sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:17] <piyushchandraind> n2diy : no, the cdis shipped from ubuntu.. and it works fine on other comps...
[07:17] <Titan8990> clueneeded, I actually have 4 backups of my xorg, all different configs
[07:18] <piyushchandraind> n2diy : i was asked to use boot options, i tried
[07:18] <alexmac> Hello.  Can someone please help me with an ubuntu question please?  I did "apt-get install openjdk-6-jre" and my box has been on this step ""Setting up openjdk-6-jre-headless" for about 10 minutes
[07:18] <alexmac> is that normal?
[07:19] <clueneeded> titan8990: is the  sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak the command i need to back it up in the first place?
[07:19] <piyushchandraind> n2diy :  when i did "noapic" it showed the same screen but with 1 error on top of it.. "bios bug. local apic #0 not detected"
[07:19] <Titan8990> clueneeded, yes
[07:19] <clueneeded> cool
[07:19] <n2diy> piyushchandraind: ok, so try that again, wit nopic?
[07:20] <piyushchandraind> n2diy : k, i will..
[07:20] <n2diy> piyushchandraind: ok, so try that again, wit nopic?, correction, nodma?
[07:21] <piyushchandraind> n2diy : nodma??.. i didnt try that
[07:21] <clueneeded> titan8990:  now... lets say i do a typo in xorg, my display is HOSED, and i need to get to get the backup xorg file going.  What's the command sequence
[07:21] <lgc> How can I install Moonlight?
[07:21] <piyushchandraind> n2diy : ya, and in some case i didnt remember it gave an error .. "unable to enumerate USB device on port2"
[07:21] <Teng> Hey everytime i try and open a folder it has the loading icon then nothing happens, is there something wrong with Nautilus?
[07:22] <sixofour> so i have a 160gb ntfs drive, i want to format it for ext3, but it has a 9gb file i need, so i need to juggle it by formating half the drive,moving the file, then formating the rest, gparted is finally able toresize the drive but i cannot access the ntfs part to copy the file :/
[07:22] <Titan8990> clueneeded, sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:22] <lgc> !moonlight
[07:22] <Titan8990> clueneeded, just don't accidently backup a bad copy of xorg.conf
[07:22] <lgc> !silverlight
[07:23] <n2diy> piyushchandraind: roger that, Getting late here, and I'm losing alertness. Play, experiment, it is you verses the computer, with help from here, you'll win.
[07:23] <alexmac> Hello.  Can someone please help me with an ubuntu question please?  I did "apt-get install openjdk-6-jre" and my box has been on this step ""Setting up openjdk-6-jre-headless" for about 10 minutes
[07:23] <clueneeded> titan: errr...  u type that into the blank display screen?
[07:23] <clueneeded> with no cursor?  (got that before)
[07:23] <nihilism> moo: os: Microsoft® Windows Vista™ Business - Service Pack 2, v.113 (6.0.6002) up: 1wk 3days 8hrs 25mins 24secs cpu: AMD Turion(tm) 64 X2 Mobile Technology TL-52 at 1600MHz (24% Load) gfx: NVIDIA GeForce Go 7300 128MB res: 1440x900 32bit 59Hz ram: 833/1021.9MB (81.52%) [||||||||--] hdd: C:\ 7.6GB/53.7GB D:\ 20.86GB/53.2GB net: Atheros AR5005G Wireless Network Adapter - 54MB/s 70.21GB In 29.33GB Out
[07:23] <piyushchandraind> n2diy : thanx  a lot.. appreciated.. bye
[07:23] <clueneeded> titan: i assume one has to get to some sort of terminal screen first
[07:23] <Teng> I sudo apt-get install --reinstall nautilus but it still has issues
[07:24] <clueneeded> get out of the hosed display into some way to be able to type commands in
[07:24] <Titan8990> clueneeded, no, you will likely have to boot into recovery mode and select "drop root shell" as often failure to load xserver will lock the machine up and ubuntu boots xserver on startup
[07:24] <sixofour> or use a livecd
[07:24] <Titan8990> clueneeded, then you will do it from the recovery mode shell
[07:24] <clueneeded> titan: whatis the key sequence for recovery mode
[07:24] <clueneeded> to get that, i mean
[07:24] <Titan8990> clueneeded, you select it from the grub menu
[07:25] <Titan8990> clueneeded, if your grub menu is hidden, esc at the right time gives you the menu
[07:26] <n2diy> piyushchandraind: Have fun! 73
[07:26] <Titan8990> clueneeded, and I hope your not trying to use what I posted... that was just an example
[07:26] <Titan8990> clueneeded, you need to replace the "driver" field with the driver you intend to use
[07:27] <ball> Is there a channel on here where I can find out more about setting up a local user group?
[07:27] <clueneeded> titan: i SZX going to use that literally...
[07:27] <clueneeded> WAS
[07:27] <clueneeded> typo
[07:28] <clueneeded> titan: if I am going to replace the "fglrx" with the exact driver name in quotes...
[07:29] <clueneeded> titan: then does this look like correct syntax?  "Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 01)"
[07:29] <Titan8990> clueneeded, not at all....
[07:29] <clueneeded> AHA!
[07:29] <clueneeded> Titan: i KNEW I was missing a clue  ;)
[07:29] <Titan8990> clueneeded, if I am reading corrently it needs to say:   "intel"
[07:29] <clueneeded> oh
[07:29] <clueneeded> rats
[07:29] <Titan8990> http://alcor.concordia.ca/manpages/sys4/intel.4.html#sect5
[07:31] <clueneeded> titan: last time i typed "intel" as per instructions here, it was to replace "vesa" with "intel" and i ended up with a blank screen.
[07:31] <Nalf> Evening.. morning.. what have you.
[07:31] <clueneeded> titan:  me a little paranoid, my apologies
[07:31] <sixofour> so i have a 160gb ntfs drive, i want to format it for ext3, but it has a 9gb file i need, so i need to juggle it by formating half the drive,moving the file, then formating the rest, gparted is finally able toresize the drive but i cannot access the ntfs part to copy the file :/
[07:31] <clueneeded> titan: i will study this  :)_
[07:32] <Titan8990> clueneeded, nothing wrong with a little trial and error :)
[07:33] <Amaranth> sixofour: sounds like the ntfs part is trashed
[07:33] <ubuntu__> how to install xmlbean in ubuntu
[07:33] <ubuntu__> plzz
[07:33] <sixofour> other than that Amaranth lol
[07:33] <Amaranth> !info libxmlbeans-java | ubuntu__
[07:33] <Amaranth> hrm
[07:33] <Titan8990> clueneeded, your card is specifically listed in the compatability page
[07:33] <jayavardhan> haui
[07:34] <Titan8990> !install | ubuntu__
[07:34] <Boohbah> ubuntu__: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xmlbeans
[07:34] <jayavardhan> hai
[07:34] <bpb> sixofour: why not mount the ntfs, copy the file, the format?
[07:34] <Titan8990> ubuntu__, wrong link...
[07:34] <sixofour> can't access the ntfs
[07:34] <Amaranth> ubuntu__ it's in the upcoming release but not the current one, you'd have to look into getting a backport or installing it manually
[07:34] <bpb> sixofour: what does that mean
[07:34] <sixofour> dolphin says "found a file, expecting a folder"
[07:34] <consoleart> where can i find themes for cairo-dock
[07:34] <Amaranth> !backport > ubuntu__
[07:34] <clueneeded> titan: problem is, my backup computer is not avaialbe, so if i end up with un unworkable ubuntu computer, i'll be pretty hosed not being able to come back here to find out how to unhose it.  But i will study what you tell me.  Gotta be brave, i guess.  :)
[07:34] <sixofour> when i access the drive
[07:34] <ubuntu__> how to install xmlbean
[07:35] <jayavardhan> sixofour i have the solution  of sccessing ntfs
[07:35] <sixofour> and then it just shows a blank window
[07:35] <Amaranth> ubuntu__: There is currently no simple way to do it, you'll have to manually download it and compile it
[07:35] <Brando753> !ubottu
[07:35] <Titan8990> ubuntu__, http://xmlbeans.apache.org/documentation/conInstallGuide.html
[07:35] <bpb> sixofour: there is a package called ntfstools i believe that gives you more access to ntfs
[07:35] <Amaranth> ubuntu__: or wait about a month and a half and use the next release of ubuntu which will have it
[07:35] <sixofour> i have all that
[07:35] <mythril> is there a suite of tools that I can run to determine networking issues in ubuntu?
[07:35] <sixofour> its ntfsprogs
[07:35] <jayavardhan> ya
[07:35] <Amaranth> mythril: what kind of networking issues?
[07:36] <q0_0p> anyone can help me with internet connection sharing?
[07:36] <bpb> sixofour: but, i would still mount it cmd line, sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sda2 /mnt/win
[07:36] <bpb> something like that
[07:36] <clueneeded> titan: you will be amused to know i spent 7 years in tech support, windows app support...  this is making me humble again.  Time to split... and thanks
[07:36] <sixofour> its already mounted
[07:36] <Brando753> !FLOODBOT
[07:36] <sixofour> its /dev/sda1
[07:36] <jayavardhan> are u all from india only
[07:36] <Brando753> !floodbot
[07:36] <Amaranth> q0_0p: shouldn't be much harder then installing bind and firestarter and ticking the "share connection" checkbox in firestarter
[07:36] <Brando753> :(
[07:36] <Titan8990> clueneeded, hehe, good luck
[07:36] <q0_0p> i dont get the tick
[07:36] <jayavardhan> please some do  chat with me
[07:36] <q0_0p> in firestarter
[07:36] <bpb> sixofour: so you have it mounted, and it will not let you copy file off?
[07:36] <sixofour> it won't let me access it
[07:37] <mythril> Amaranth: Downloads(http only as far as I am aware) abruptly stop transferring but don't time out
[07:37] <ubuntu__> any one has any idea abut installation of xmlbean
[07:37] <shay27m> Hello , does anyone know if Ubuntu have tool for resize images size (terminal) ? so the images will be much smaller in size and than i can upload them to the net ?
[07:37] <sixofour> clicking the drive does absolutly nothing
[07:37] <q0_0p> oh
[07:37] <q0_0p> nm
[07:37] <Titan8990> ubuntu__, http://xmlbeans.apache.org/documentation/conInstallGuide.html
[07:37] <q0_0p> let me give it a try amaranth
[07:37] <Brando753> anyone know hpow to get source for Ubottu and Floodbot for your own irc channel?
[07:37] <sixofour> sometimes it asks for sudo, but still does nothing
[07:37] <Titan8990> ubuntu__, not going to link it again
[07:37] <Amaranth> q0_0p: Oh, and I was looking up the sysfs entry to change (which is all firestarter does)
[07:37] <q0_0p> i want to share my wifi
[07:37] <bpb> sixofour: sudo cp -p /mnt/win/path/to/whatever /tmp/
[07:37] <q0_0p> through my eth0
[07:37] <sixofour> what?
[07:38] <sixofour> well, gparted formated half of it just now
[07:38] <mythril> Amaranth: or at least, they don't time out quickly
[07:38] <sixofour> well, split it
[07:38] <doleyb> shay27m: imagemagick
[07:38] <Titan8990> bpb, thats not going to get very far if its a dir
[07:38] <Amaranth> q0_0p: you may have to configure bind to serve requests via eth0 only but otherwise it should just be a matter of that and the checkbox in firestarter
[07:38] <Brando753> !search source
[07:38] <sixofour> and a popup said new device plugged in
[07:38] <Amaranth> q0_0p: did you find the checkbox then?
[07:38] <Teng> Hey everytime i try and open a folder it has the loading icon then nothing happens, is there something wrong with Nautilus?
[07:38] <q0_0p> yeah
[07:38] <Amaranth> mythril: only time I've seen that happen is bad wifi router or bad wifi driver
[07:38] <bpb> Titan8990: because of the spaces?
[07:38] <q0_0p> it says eth0 is not ready
[07:39] <Titan8990> bpb, because it lacks a -a or -r
[07:39] <mythril> Amaranth: I suspected my router already
[07:39] <Titan8990> bpb, cp -ap   or  cp -rp
[07:39] <mythril> mythril: I have no way to confirm it though, because my router is my dsl modem
[07:39] <Brando753> anyone know how to get source for Ubottu and Floodbot to make your own varition for your own irc channel?
[07:39] <sixofour> FFFF
[07:39] <sixofour> WIN
[07:39] <mythril> I can't swap it out without replacing it
[07:39] <sixofour> it works
[07:39] <Amaranth> !ubottu | Brando753
[07:39] <bpb> you dont need recrusive if you know the exact path
[07:39] <sixofour> i formatted half of it and the unformated half now works,, heh
[07:39] <mythril> Amaranth: lol, I just messaged myself
[07:39] <Amaranth> Brando753: that second link
[07:39] <Brando753> Amaranth: dosent help ;(
[07:39] <Titan8990> bpb, although -a alone may imply -p, either way, NTFS permissions mean absolutly nothing on a linux filesystem and vice-versa
[07:39] <Amaranth> mythril: yeah, dunno what to tell you there
[07:40] <Brando753> Amaranth: 2nd link one sec
[07:40] <bpb> yeah, which is why it doesnt make sense that he cannot 'access'
[07:40] <bpb> not like there are permissions keeping him from seeing the file
[07:40] <bpb> if he sudo's and mounts properly, and the file isnt corrupt, should be able to
[07:40] <Amaranth> q0_0p: still trying to get firestarter installed to check it out, my package database is a bit broken right now, gimme a minute
[07:40] <Titan8990> bpb, well, by default they are given ownership to root
[07:40] <sixofour> i got it
[07:40] <mythril> Amaranth: thanks anyway
[07:41] <bpb> Titan8990: sudo would take care of that, which is probably why it works for him now
[07:41] <sixofour> hrm
[07:41] <Amaranth> mythril: when in doubt reset factory defaults
[07:41] <sixofour> sda1 works, but i just formated sda2 and it doesn't :/
[07:41] <sixofour> it has the "expected a foldeR" error
[07:41] <sixofour> "found a file, expected a folder"
[07:41] <bpb> how bout runing a fsck -y on that partition if you have nothing to lose
[07:42] <Titan8990> bpb, yep, also sometimes it works to give the mount command -o users:   sudo mount -o users -t ntfs /dev/sdxx /media/morehere
[07:42] <Brando753> anyway to download all those things via ftp?
[07:42] <sixofour> guys, i just cut the fiel i needed
[07:42] <sixofour> but the partition i am trying to paste it to doesn't work
[07:42] <sixofour> :/
[07:42] <sixofour> the one i just made
[07:42] <Amaranth> q0_0p: huh, firestarter changed, it looks like it'll actually setup all of this for you now
[07:43] <Amaranth> q0_0p: and you don't need dhcp if you have a small network, just setup static IPs
[07:43] <sixofour> suppose i should mount it first
[07:43] <sixofour> ^^
[07:43] <bpb> sixofour: where is the new partition mounted?
[07:43] <sixofour> its not lol
[07:43] <bpb> yes mount'
[07:43] <karsten> !@#$%^&*&() kernel upgrade borked my evdo card.  Device apparently has changed from /dev/ttyACM0 to ... well, I don't know what
[07:43] <karsten>  2.6.27-11-generic #1 SMP Thu Jan 29 19:28:32 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux BTW.
[07:43] <q0_0p> i dont need dnsmasq and ipmasq?
[07:43] <Amaranth> q0_0p: are you going through the first time configuration wizard for firestarter?
[07:43] <sixofour> how do i mount it?
[07:43] <q0_0p> no
[07:43] <q0_0p> oh
[07:43] <q0_0p> yes
[07:43] <q0_0p> i've gone through it many times
[07:44] <bpb> mount -t ext3 /dev/sda2 /mnt/bleh
[07:44] <bpb> i believe
[07:44] <bpb> put a sudo in front
[07:44] <Amaranth> q0_0p: it asks you which device is the one with internet, if it gets IP via DHCP, which device to use for sharing, and if it should setup DHCP
[07:44] <sixofour> what is /bleh ?
[07:44] <bpb> i usually do everything as root
[07:44] <q0_0p> this is through a switch
[07:44] <q0_0p> with no uplink port
[07:44] <bpb> bleh is whatever dir you want to mount it on...
[07:44] <Amaranth> q0_0p: err, you have two network interfaces, right?
[07:44] <q0_0p> can i share my wifi
[07:44] <Amaranth> one is getting the connection you want to share, the other is sharing it, right?
[07:44] <q0_0p> through my eth?
[07:44] <bpb> sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sda2 /your/path/you/want/to/mount/is/this/better?
[07:44] <sixofour> the point point does not exts
[07:45] <sixofour> mount point*
[07:45] <Amaranth> q0_0p: sure, I've done that and vice versa in hotel rooms with weird internet usage policies
[07:45] <sixofour> exist*
[07:45] <q0_0p> can i msg u?
[07:45] <bpb> sixofour: cd /mnt;mkdir /mnt/ext3;sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sda2 /mnt/ext3/
[07:45] <Amaranth> q0_0p: in the firestarter wizard choose wlan0 as the internet device and tick the DHCP checkbox and choose eth0 as the device to share it with
[07:46] <q0_0p> i dont have the DHCP checkbox
[07:46] <Amaranth> q0_0p: very first screen of firestarter
[07:46] <sixofour> how do you paste in konsole?
[07:46] <q0_0p> i see the check enable internet connection sharing
[07:46] <Amaranth> q0_0p: it wants to know your internet connected device, it gives you a list
[07:46] <sixofour> cd command not found
[07:46] <Amaranth> q0_0p: page before that
[07:46] <q0_0p> i've checked everything
[07:47] <q0_0p> ip assigned via dhcp
[07:47] <doleyb> sixofour: control shift v ?
[07:47] <Amaranth> q0_0p: hrm, I'm actually using jaunty (Ubuntu 9.04 Alpha) so perhaps my setup is different
[07:47] <sixofour> cd is not a command
[07:47] <Amaranth> q0_0p: ok then, the page with the sharing box is what you're on?
[07:47] <q0_0p> i enabled internet connection sharing
[07:47] <q0_0p> on eth0
[07:47] <karsten> Solved it here": http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4205671
[07:47] <Amaranth> q0_0p: check "Enable internet connection sharing" and choose eth0
[07:47] <q0_0p> it has a tick for enable DHCP for local network
[07:47] <q0_0p> but it wont let me tick it
[07:47] <q0_0p> i've ticked enable internet connection sharing
[07:47] <bpb> sixofour: cd /mnt, then issue: sudo mkdir /mnt/ext3; sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sda2 /mnt/ext3/
[07:47] <Amaranth> q0_0p: install the 'dhcp' package
[07:48] <q0_0p> o i c
[07:48] <q0_0p> thats wat im missing
[07:48] <q0_0p> so dnsmasq and ipmasq is unecessary?
[07:48] <Amaranth> q0_0p: oops, it's dhcp3-server now
[07:48] <q0_0p> yup
[07:48] <Amaranth> q0_0p: no, I don't think they are
[07:48] <sixofour> ok
[07:49] <revilodraw> ok i have a WEIRD problem - my computer is running perfectly as per normal, video playback is perfect, music playback perfect, desktop effects, glxgears 2600 fps, etc... BUT opening files and folders and some programs is sooooooo sssssllllloooooooowwwww all of a sudden.. this could be due to an update, or maybe i have a virus?
[07:49] <bpb> revilodraw: windows or linux?
[07:49] <q0_0p> should i change /etc/interfaces for eth0 for dhcp?
[07:49] <Titan8990> revilodraw, update: possible, virus: no
[07:49] <Amaranth> q0_0p: shouldn't change anything like that manually
[07:50] <q0_0p> ok
[07:50] <Amaranth> q0_0p: looks like firestarter should set it all up for you
[07:50] <sixofour> you can't copy paste from one partition to another?
[07:50] <bpb> why not? i change stuff manually all the time
[07:50] <revilodraw> bpb; linux, windows is always slow lol (this is a fastish computer) 2gig ram, 2ghz core2duo
[07:50] <q0_0p> it looks like this right now
[07:50] <q0_0p> auto lo
[07:50] <q0_0p> iface lo inet loopback
[07:50] <Titan8990> !firestarter
[07:50] <revilodraw> Titan8990: well is anyone else having this problem due to an update?
[07:50] <Amaranth> q0_0p: that's fine, that means NetworkManager is managing the interfaces
[07:50] <bpb> revilodraw: sometimes its a simple thing like network, or issue in /etc/hosts that will cause X to be slow
[07:50] <sixofour> so both drivers now work, but i can't copy paste from one to another :/
[07:50] <Titan8990> revilodraw, don't use ubuntu, just help out around here....
[07:50] <q0_0p> im not using network manager
[07:50] <sixofour> drives
[07:50] <q0_0p> im using wicd right now
[07:51] <q0_0p> would that be a problem?
[07:51] <bpb> sixofour: what command are you doing, you can copy over to partitions
[07:51] <sixofour> it says access denied
[07:51] <sixofour> cannot write
[07:51] <sixofour> lol
[07:51] <Titan8990> sixofour, you have to use sudo
[07:51] <sixofour> how dfo you use sudo in dolphin?
[07:51] <Titan8990> sixofour, and if you must.... sudo -i
[07:51] <k3pp0> hi all, i have compiled iw from source, now if i fire iw from local folder (./iw) it do behave as the new version
[07:51] <Amaranth> q0_0p: no, no problem
[07:51] <Titan8990> sixofour, you don't get rid of the GUI and never use it again....
[07:51] <k3pp0> but not if i sumply fire "$iw" from command line
[07:52] <Titan8990> sixofour, well, you can, but I don't recommend it
[07:52] <revilodraw> bpb: ok, how do i ascertain if that is the problem/
[07:52] <Amaranth> q0_0p: just need to install that package and go through the firestarter configuration
[07:52] <Titan8990> sixofour, sudo dolphin
[07:52] <l3dplated_Linux> is there a way to make all new opened apps to open in the background
[07:52] <sixofour> konsole is a waste of time trying to learn wehen it comes to moving files and such
[07:52] <bpb> q0_0p: i like to modify text/config files in /etc opposed to gui, just make a backup and sometimes it helps to know how to rescue in case something doesnt boot, but thats rare case
[07:52] <Myrtti> k3pp0: because iw isn't in your $path
[07:52] <k3pp0> Myrtti, how can i do that?
[07:52] <bpb> revilodraw: i would like in /etc/hosts
[07:52] <Myrtti> k3pp0: your shell doesn't know where to look for it if the "iw" isn't in your $path
[07:52] <q0_0p> dhcp server fails to load
[07:52] <narada> anyone here has an EMachines EL-1200?
[07:52] <Amaranth> q0_0p: hrm, yeah, looks like you have to configure it
[07:52] <revilodraw> bpb:  look for what?
[07:53] <Amaranth> q0_0p: Although I think firestarter does so, let me check
[07:53] <sixofour> ok
[07:53] <sixofour> works
[07:53] <bpb> revilodraw: first off, see when the last time /etc/hosts was modified, and look at the first few lines.
[07:53] <Titan8990> sixofour, I would have had them all moved, before you even got on IRC, from the console....
[07:53] <bpb> sixofour: good
[07:53] <Rodrigo_Lopes> q0_0p, whats a fail message??
[07:53] <k3pp0> Myrtti, i understand...i thought make and make install were sufficient...how do i fix it?
[07:53] <l3dplated_Linux> need to install this sound card for this pc
[07:53] <q0_0p> says check syslog for diagnostics
[07:53] <Amaranth> Rodrigo_Lopes: it isn't configured for any interfaces by default
[07:53] <Myrtti> k3pp0: a) move it to someplace that is in your $path b) add the place it is to your $path
[07:53] <q0_0p> i tried starting it in init.d
[07:53] <Titan8990> sixofour, I know whats a waste of time and what isn't....
[07:54] <Boohbah> Titan8990: wow, you win at linux!
[07:54] <k3pp0> uhm how do I know what is my $PATH? :)
[07:54] <Amaranth> q0_0p: not even the right package :/
[07:54] <sixofour> i think tis a bit easyer to drag and drop then type in about 5 commands
[07:54] <Titan8990> Boohbah, sweet, do I get a prize?
[07:54] <bpb> k3pp0: echo $PATH
[07:54] <Myrtti> k3pp0: "echo $path" in your terminal without the quotes
[07:54] <k3pp0> lol me noob :P thanx i try stat
[07:54] <user_1989> Good day gentlemen. I have ADSL based internet connection, line is always up and I did no configuration on both Vista and Ubuntu - I just load my operating system and internet connection is up without any tweaking. The problem is that I have installed Kubuntu day ago, and there is no internet connection when I load it. ifconfig returns eth0 wich is down, and doing ifconfig eth0 doesn't help. What's the problem? Still, there are no troubles on Vsita/ubuntu 8.
[07:54] <q0_0p> i did sudo /etc/init.d/dhcp3-server restart
[07:55] <unop> Myrtti, $path would be something else now :)
[07:55] <q0_0p> wrong package?
[07:55] <bpb> q0_0p: server? you probably want the client
[07:55] <q0_0p> oh
[07:55] <Amaranth> q0_0p: yeah, seems things have changed since I did this last
[07:55] <Titan8990> user_1989, any errors from: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart     ?
[07:55] <Myrtti> unop: since when?
[07:55] <Amaranth> bpb: no, he is trying to setup a server for internet connection sharing
[07:55] <user_1989> ifconfig eth0 up  <- I meant this one
[07:55] <q0_0p> aight i'll get dhcp-client
[07:55] <bpb> q0_0p: type in dhcp{TAB}
[07:55] <unop> Myrtti, since always - $path is not $PATH
[07:55] <khmer42> If I have Hardy server installed and as a one off I want to install a .deb which is in Intrepid, how can I do it with apt-get?
[07:55] <revilodraw> bpb:  it says "127.0.0.1 localhost', then some stuff about IPV6, and that's all
[07:55] <Amaranth> bpb: he is using the neighbor's wireless and wants his desktop to use it too ;)
[07:55] <bpb> and see if any bins are there
[07:55] <Myrtti> unop: oh, right
[07:56] <Myrtti> k3pp0: it's $PATH, not $path :-P
[07:56] <q0_0p> it gives me 3 packages
[07:56] <Titan8990> q0_0p, its called dhclient and should be installed as part of the core system
[07:56] <Myrtti> k3pp0: as unop reminded me
[07:56] <Rodrigo_Lopes> Amaranth, it is strange.... .
[07:56] <q0_0p> udhcpc pump and dhcpcd
[07:56] <q0_0p> oh
[07:56] <q0_0p> dhclient
[07:56] <q0_0p> k
[07:56] <FloodBot2> q0_0p: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:56] <narada> I cannot login in a just installed PHPMyAdmin on my fresh Ubu Server 8.10, any ideas? how can I change the password? Is there a "default" pass in PHPMSQL different than the one I defined in MySQL install? help, please
[07:56] <Titan8990> q0_0p, yeah, it has dhcpcd but I never got it to work on any debian based distro
[07:56] <user_1989> Titan8990: Can't say because I'm on Ubuntu right now
[07:56] <bpb> revilodraw: is the network plugged in, and can you ping www.google.com from the slow linx box?
[07:57] <q0_0p> just installed dhcpcd
[07:57] <Titan8990> user_1989, they are the same thing with different interfaces
[07:57] <koshari> narada it should be the mysql one, are you loggineg in a s root?
[07:57] <Rodrigo_Lopes> q0_0p, did you try to run dhcpcd in root??
[07:57] <q0_0p> i haven't run it yet
[07:57] <q0_0p> i'll do it now
[07:57] <Titan8990> user_1989, but that doesn't mean the kde interface doesn't have some kind of gui that is changing things that it should not
[07:57] <user_1989> ok I shall check that one
[07:57] <q0_0p> its running
[07:57] <q0_0p> sudo dhcpcd eth0
[07:58] <narada> @koshari : yes, I am
[07:58] <user_1989> Titan8990: Indeed. That's why I have no clue where the problem is
[07:58] <koshari> have you tried user root and blank p/w to begin with
[07:58] <Titan8990> q0_0p, dhcpcd doesn't work in ubuntu from what I remeber, have to use dhclient
[07:58] <Rodrigo_Lopes> Hi Titan.. lets talk any words.....
[07:58] <Titan8990> Rodrigo_Lopes, sorry?
[07:58] <revilodraw> bpb; no internet where i am, (i'm using my unlce's computer with wireless internet, not wifi) but last night i was on the internet and once firefox FINALLY opened it ran really well... everything was fast
[07:58] <q0_0p> it says
[07:58] <k3pp0> Myrtti, ok i moved brand new iw command to /usr/bin which is in my $PATH, but still i have to fire ./iw from /usr/bin/ to use the iw version i compiled instead of default ubuntu version
[07:58] <Rodrigo_Lopes> Titan8990, .. kde sucks. its same windows
[07:58] <k3pp0> any hint?
[07:58] <q0_0p> eth0 timed out; and it gave me a new IP
[07:58] <narada> I mean, I  am logging in in the web interface (localhost/phpmyadmin) as user "root" pass "myusualsqlpass"
[07:59] <bpb> revilodraw: see told you =P
[07:59] <Rodrigo_Lopes> Titan8990,  gnome like windows to....
[07:59] <Amaranth> q0_0p: I'm digging through the source code right now trying to figure out what it is trying to do and what is going wrong
[07:59] <Titan8990> Rodrigo_Lopes, agreed, but gnome is better
[07:59] <koshari> narada try a blank p/w
[07:59] <narada> I tried
[07:59] <user_1989> Rodrigo_Lopes: Is this a declaration of war to KDE users?
[08:00] <Rodrigo_Lopes> Titan8990,  you need to try xfce and fluxbox.. ist a more unix like windows manager
[08:00] <unop> k3pp0,  does.   type -a iw    list more than one location for iw??
[08:00] <koshari> narada so you set mysql up before installing phpmyadmin?
[08:00] <narada> what is KDE? is somthing like Vista, isn't?
[08:00] <Titan8990> Rodrigo_Lopes, I use xfce on my laptops
[08:00] <revilodraw> bpb:  told me what?
[08:00] <Titan8990> Rodrigo_Lopes, gnome on my desktop
[08:00] <l3dplated_Linux> Is there a way to make all windows/apps open in the background?
[08:00] <noren> hi all
[08:00] <noren> is there a guide to learn how to cmpile my own dist frommm source ??
[08:00] <Fudge> when installing along side windows 8.10 i get nearly to end of setting up and get an error accessing cd rom, any ide why this is happenning?
[08:00] <bpb> revilodraw: my suggestion would be to maybe disable eth0 and see if X realizes there is no internet, also removing the IPV6 stuff in /etc/hosts probably wont hurt. Consult google "X windows slow when internet is not connected"
[08:00] <narada> @koshari : yes, (I think i did properly)
[08:00] <k3pp0> unop, yep /usr/sbin and /usr/bin
[08:00] <Rodrigo_Lopes> Titan8990,  congragualtions...xfce.. dont steal ram in your system...
[08:00] <noren> i wanted to try lets say ubuntu 8.10 64bit how sud i go about
[08:00] <bpb> revilodraw: I told you from the beginning it was probably something network related
[08:01] <unop> k3pp0,  and which location is first? :)  (hint)
[08:01] <bpb> revilodraw: its almost like a bug if u ask me, not your fault
[08:01] <Myrtti> k3pp0: does it have a hashbang or is it executable?
[08:01] <Titan8990> Rodrigo_Lopes, RAM is dirt cheap.... I use what I like
[08:01] <Rodrigo_Lopes> user_1989, ..no im a peace boy.. but.. gnome and kde its a copy  of windows.... and I dont like
[08:02] <k3pp0> ok location /usr/bin is the recent one i added some minute ago, and is the one i want to use.
[08:02] <revilodraw> bpb:  no, it's not network related, it was slow to open firefox once the internet was connected, but it ran firefox fine (same while the internet is disconnected)
[08:02] <Titan8990> Rodrigo_Lopes, I do all my administration from the terminal, I'm willing to give up 1/4 of my RAM to some eyecandy for daily use
[08:02] <k3pp0> problem is, to use newer version of iw i have to fire it as ./iw
[08:02] <unop> k3pp0,  change $PATH around to have /usr/bin before /usr/sbin
[08:02] <user_1989> Rodrigo_Lopes: Hm I found it very curious do reject some sort of software just because it looks like windows.
[08:02] <k3pp0> instead of simply iw which launch old verson
[08:02] <Amaranth> q0_0p: sorry, not finding anything useful (probably too tired)
[08:02] <Fudge> personal choice, even if its distastful
[08:02] <q0_0p> its all good
[08:02] <beli> hi, i got initramfs ata2 SRST failed (ERRNO=16) error on startup, any ideas?
[08:03] <Titan8990> Rodrigo_Lopes, I use gentoo, and CPU is my primary limitation on all my machines (compiling)
[08:03] <bpb> revilodraw: so all x.org is slow when the network is connected? or just firefox
[08:03] <Rodrigo_Lopes> :p good for you... ....but kde and gnome.. steal every my ram and I dont like......
[08:03] <q0_0p> just wanted to mess with networks and try something new and learn
[08:03] <k3pp0> unop, what if i simply delete iw from /usr/bin/?
[08:03] <Amaranth> q0_0p: I did find out that if you run `sudo ln -s /usr/sbin/dhcpd3 /usr/sbin/dhcpd` firestarter lets you enable dhcp for sharing
[08:03] <revilodraw> bpb; would u be happy to post your /etc/hosts file in the pastebin?
[08:03] <yoyit2> what the heck is the netx pp[
[08:03] <q0_0p> sweet
[08:03] <unop> k3pp0, I thought that was where you put it :)
[08:03] <yoyit2> what the heck is the NetX bp
[08:03] <narada> @Rodrigo Lopes , WTF???????? --> Get informed properly before saying something as hilarious...please
[08:04] <bcarm17> hi
[08:04] <q0_0p> ur right
[08:04] <Rodrigo_Lopes> Titan8990, .. its.. good.. in terminal is better.. faster.. and more configurable...
[08:04] <Titan8990> Rodrigo_Lopes, don't really understand it... on my desktop with gnome and 2gb of RAM, I can open what seems like a unlimited ammt of applications and my ram usage never exceeds 500-650mb
[08:04] <q0_0p> that works
[08:04] <yoyit2> arg what i mean is what the heck is the NetX popup i keep getiting on firefox??
[08:04] <k3pp0> unop, sorry, i meant /usr/sbin/, the old location of old command
[08:04] <chrispitzer> hey - the volume on my laptop, when i use ubuntu, is far too low.  I've maxed all the mixer levels.  Is there a way to boost volume across the whole system?
[08:04] <Titan8990> Rodrigo_Lopes, agreed, also, in gentoo you don't get a choice
[08:04] <revilodraw> bpb: everything runs fine when it is finally open, this happens whether the network is connected or not
[08:04] <bpb> revilodraw: that wont help, i thought all x.org was being slow for you, sounds like your problem is just with firefox?
[08:04] <Titan8990> Rodrigo_Lopes, if I do use a GUI, its a web interface like phpmyadmin for mysql
[08:04] <bpb> revilodraw: ok, so just firefox then...
[08:04] <unop> k3pp0, well, it's upto you - but if you ever upgrade the package that has /usr/sbin/iw - it will come back
[08:05] <bcarm17> can anyone help me with my idea for a new shell?
[08:05] <yoyit2> jnlp client.. what the heck is this??
[08:05] <bpb> revilodraw: what about compilling firefox from tar.gz file? or purging and rebuilding firefox from synaptic?
[08:05] <unop> k3pp0, best to have something like.   export PATH="/usr/bin:$PATH"    in your ~/.bashrc
[08:05] <revilodraw> bpb; no, all programs take ages to open then run fine, not just firefox!
[08:06] <narada> But I run an Ubu server in a slow celero, 128 Mb RAM, goes so nice (even conky etc) with fluxbox...
[08:06] <Amaranth> q0_0p: after doing that symlink I was able to enable connection sharing and I didn't have to do anything extra, just install firestarter and dhcp3-server
[08:06] <bcarm17> the thing is i have a great concept for a window manager but i can't script to save my life
[08:06] <Amaranth> q0_0p: maybe undo anything you've done so far to try to set it up
[08:06] <q0_0p> k
[08:06] <Nalf> Can anyone help me with an installer hangup?
[08:06] <q0_0p> thx for helping me out amaranth
[08:07] <Rodrigo_Lopes> Titan8990, yes.. .. you have much ram. ...I have 1gb.. ..... I think.. .. ubuntu, gnome, kde.. ...put persons longer of the true linux usage....
[08:07] <Fudge> I have 64bit p4 do i use the amd64 image?
[08:07]  * Nalf has 6 GB of ram.
[08:07] <Nalf> Fudge: You can, if you want.
[08:07] <Nalf> Fudge: I suggest it.
[08:08] <Fudge> Nalf im having trouble when i get to the end of the install process in windows installing it along side windows, says it cant read the disk are there any other programs accessing the drive.
[08:08] <Titan8990> Rodrigo_Lopes, "true linux usage" is what you want it to be.... choice and flexibility are what make it great
[08:08] <bcarm17> is anyone here a part of the dev for gnome??
[08:08] <Rodrigo_Lopes> Fudge, ????windows??????
[08:08] <Fudge> yes mate
[08:09] <Titan8990> Rodrigo_Lopes, I don't like kde because of your point about it being like windows, but some like it for that reason and have that choice, thus making linux great for its choices
[08:09] <Fudge> Rodrigo_Lopes yes
[08:09] <Nalf> Fudge: Are you using the WUBI installer?
[08:09] <Fudge> yes autoplay in windows
[08:09] <Rodrigo_Lopes> :p yep kkk....try ubuntu.. its very good.. and.. further..try slackware.....its many better.....
[08:10] <bcarm17> i don't think i'm in the right place
[08:10] <Fudge> Nalf when i installed it last time it was fine, maybe i shoudl burn the disk again?
[08:10] <jigp> hello is it possible to install chrom in ubuntu 8.04 gnome? how?
[08:10] <Nalf> Fudge: When exactly is the issue occuring? Do you reboot, choose ubuntu, and run through the beginning of the install?
[08:10] <bcarm17> can someone direct me to someone that can help
[08:10] <Nalf> Fudge: Wubi and live install are two different things.
[08:10] <Fudge> Nalf its at the end of loading the image in windows still
[08:11] <revilodraw> is anyone finding ubuntu incredibly slow at opening files, folders and programs since the last update?
[08:11] <p1oooop> does anyone know a good guide to ubuntu server edition?
[08:11] <Rodrigo_Lopes> Titan8990, .. I dont now... but its a many "flamewars" in net about windows, gnome, and kde.. interface...... and I think kde4 copy any windows interface.....
[08:12] <Nalf> Fudge: Your problem seems a little ambiguous to me -- can you try stating it in a different way?
[08:12] <jean99> bjr tt le monde
[08:12] <n8tuserf> !fr | jean99
[08:12] <Rodrigo_Lopes> Titan8990,  because this I think fluxbox, xfce.. and anothers "simple" interface is better....
[08:12] <p1oooop> also, is there any way of making a windows driver run on ubuntu?
[08:12] <Fudge> Nalf when i choose my language user pass and folder, it loads the image, it has to create the folder i guess and use wubi to go into the boot loader but that stage does not finish. it comes up with the error is there another program accessing the cd drive.
[08:12]  * Nalf thanks n8tuserf.
[08:13] <k3pp0> unop, i still can't get it work, i tryed to add the line u suggest to .bashrc but no luck
[08:13] <bcarm17> ANYONE WORK WITH DEVELOPING GNOME???
[08:13] <Nalf> Fudge: What version of windows do you have?
[08:13] <p1oooop> XP
[08:13] <Fudge> xp pro sp3
[08:13] <p1oooop> LOL
[08:13] <p1oooop> I knew it
[08:14] <Rodrigo_Lopes> ploooop  what driver???
[08:14] <Nalf> Fudge: Try a virtual CD Drive.
[08:14] <q0_0p> what ip is in the range of subnet 169.254.0.0 with netmask 255.255.0.0?
[08:14] <jigp> hello how to install chrome google?
[08:14] <Fudge> Nalf and then use the iso to laod into it?
[08:14] <p1oooop> Rodrigo_Lopes: any
[08:15] <Nalf> Fudge: Or just extract the iso -- and run the wubi setup.. that might work too. My apologies, but I must be heading out. It's 1:14 a.m.. have to wake up at 6:30 a.m. .. bad news.:P Ja mata!
[08:15] <Fudge> no problem mate, im burning it again if it doesnt work ill do that
[08:15] <revilodraw> is anyone finding ubuntu incredibly slow at opening files, folders and programs since the last update?
[08:15] <bcarm17> yep
[08:15] <p1oooop> wow, 1300 people in here
[08:16] <p1oooop> and like only me in #random :(
[08:16] <p1oooop> sad
[08:16] <bcarm17> so slow i reverted to 8.04
[08:16] <ziroday> bcarm17: there is no need to yell, most of the gnome hackers are on gimpnet anyway.
[08:17] <ziroday> bcarm17: no matter how much caps you use I doubt they're going to hear you.
[08:17] <n8tuserf> q0_0p-> tried using ipcalc  ?
[08:17] <bcarm17> ziroday: thanks
[08:17] <simplexio> if there is some problem its in gnome or nautilus
[08:17] <Rodrigo_Lopes> what is a better 3d driver??? ati proprietary.. or xorg free ati???
[08:17] <simplexio> i haven't noticed slow down, but again i use more commandline that nautilus
[08:18] <ziroday> Rodrigo_Lopes: there is no "best" driver. Its recommended to use the free xorg driver however you may get better performance from the closed source driver.
[08:18] <revilodraw> is anyone finding ubuntu incredibly slow at opening files, folders and programs since the last update?
[08:18] <simplexio> revilodraw: you could try to use top to find if there is some runaway program that uses all resources, or if you have huge wait% there
[08:18] <Fudge> instead of repeating your question every five minutes
[08:19] <simplexio> yeah.. thats is more productive
[08:19] <TnadeN> uninstall programs... how do I do it...*sob*
[08:20] <revilodraw> simplexio: good idea, but system monitor reports nothing hogging my resources
[08:20] <TnadeN> when not in the add/remove list ofc
[08:20] <ziroday> TnadeN: through synaptic. System > Administration > Synaptic Package Manager
[08:20] <q0_0p> wats the difference between subnet and netmask/
[08:20] <simplexio> revilodraw: there is no huge %wa values, and no high cpu load.. then problem is somewhere in nautilus
[08:21] <simplexio> q0_0p: netmask defines subnet
[08:21] <ziroday> simplexio: tried disabling previewing?. How large is this folder you are trying to view?
[08:21] <Rodrigo_Lopes> ziroday, i use proprietary.. and work fine..but i have  prejudice, bias about proprietary software....then I dont now
[08:21] <revilodraw> simplexio:  ok, how should i go about attacking this nautilus related problem?
[08:21] <TnadeN> not in there, installed hamachi with make install as ordered by the readme
[08:21] <simplexio> ziroday: talk to revilodraw
[08:21] <q0_0p> simplexio can u help me with the dhcpd.conf?
[08:21] <ziroday> Rodrigo_Lopes: well you need to decide that yourself :)
[08:22] <ziroday> revilodraw: : tried disabling previewing? How large is this folder you are trying to view?
[08:22] <TnadeN> now it's missing a  "libcrypto.so.0.9.7"
[08:22] <ziroday> TnadeN: compiling from source is not recommended for many reasons; one of those being they are hard to remove. You need to go back to the dir with the make scripts and run sudo make uninstall
[08:22] <simplexio> revilodraw: you could allways check that your hard drives dont have anything funny settings.. use bonnie++ to configrm that speeds are somewhat normal
[08:23] <revilodraw> ziroday:  hi! it is not just folders, but files and programs too.... when they are *finally* open they run fine... glx gears reports a 2600fps, music and video play smoothly when they are finally open..
[08:23] <ziroday> revilodraw: so you're saying there is a lag in opening a new window?
[08:23] <fairy> oyin
[08:23] <apelgate> Hello. where do I download .deb packages for ubuntu?
[08:23] <ziroday> apelgate: what do you want to download?
[08:24] <revilodraw> yes, and a new instance of a program, or a file.. or anything
[08:24] <apelgate> postfix and mailx
[08:24] <apelgate> maybe the dependencies
[08:24] <ziroday> apelgate: and what is wrong with installing them the normal way?
[08:24] <jigspan> hi anyone there?
[08:24] <apelgate> too old ubuntu
[08:24] <ziroday> revilodraw: right, have you just enabled compiz/desktop effects?
[08:24] <apelgate> the "normal" way is unsupported
[08:24] <ziroday> apelgate: how old?
[08:24] <BetaClone> Anyone seen any guides for Jaunty and Wacom tables? Not sure I'll be using option A or B from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wacom
[08:24] <ziroday> BetaClone: jaunty is in #ubuntu+1
[08:25] <BetaClone> ziroday: thanks!
[08:25] <revilodraw> ziroday: compiz has been working beautifully for ages, and i tried turning it off to see if it had suddenly become a problem but that made no difference
[08:25] <apelgate> ziroday: 7.04 feisty
[08:25] <jigspan> need help
[08:26] <jigspan> need help
[08:26] <Rodrigo_Lopes> jigspan, speak
[08:26] <ziroday> revilodraw: try opening running gedit in the terminal, are there any helpful errors printed?
[08:26] <ziroday> BetaClone: good luck :)
[08:26] <illumin8> !ask > jigspan
[08:26] <apelgate> I gave up on apt-get because it didn't find any of the addresses.. 404 error
[08:26] <ziroday> apelgate: right, thats because feisty is EOL
[08:26] <ziroday> !feisty | apelgate
[08:26] <jigspan> i am not able to terminate internet by sudo poff command
[08:26] <ziroday> !eol | apelgate
[08:27] <apelgate> I know!
[08:27] <apelgate> so I just need the packages.
[08:27] <Rodrigo_Lopes> o good...
[08:27] <ziroday> apelgate: if you want packages you need to upgrade or use old-releases (really not recommended)
[08:27] <Rodrigo_Lopes> I go screan
[08:27] <apelgate> no security fixes
[08:27] <ziroday> apelgate: why can't you upgrade?
[08:27] <apelgate> it is a production environment
[08:28] <apelgate> upgrading means downtime and unexpected problems sometimes. We can't afford that.
[08:28] <ziroday> apelgate: well its just going to get nastier the longer you leave it :). If you need them badly you can get them from old-releases
[08:28] <l3dplated_Linux>  am looking to see if I can make all apps open in the background till I choose to use them instead of popping right up all the time?
[08:28] <apelgate> I just need postfix on it and it will be happy until the next planned upgrade
[08:28] <revilodraw> ziroday: no error messages, it just took about 30 seconds for gedit to open
[08:29] <ziroday> apelgate: one sec
[08:29] <simplexio> apelgate: ... so you cant affort test box, where you install latest lts buntu, test and deploy it?
[08:29] <simplexio> apelgate: someone is trying to save from wrong place e
[08:29] <Titan8990> apelgate, a test server is never a bad investment
[08:29] <ziroday> apelgate: you need to replace the current repo's with the ones outlined in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades. They will contain the postfix packages you need
[08:30] <Titan8990> apelgate, I once had to do testing on a production server, it ended up costing the money more in downtime in the end....
[08:30] <ziroday> apelgate: also, production servers should not be running old, possibly unsecure apps :)
[08:30] <sixofour> ugh
[08:30] <gerryxiao0> hello
[08:30] <sixofour> is there something better than ark?
[08:30] <jigspan> sudo poff command fail
[08:30] <sixofour> this peice fo crap is failing hard :(
[08:31] <revilodraw> sixofour:  password related?
[08:31] <sixofour> i'm telling it to extract allfiels and its only extracting folders with out their contents
[08:31] <ziroday> sixofour: there is file-roller, and a variety of command line tools
[08:31] <cow_keren_abiz> hi...
[08:31] <sixofour> so it extracted 10 empty folders
[08:31] <sixofour> even though i selected "all files"
[08:31] <cow_keren_abiz> I have suspected files maybe it virus...
[08:31] <cow_keren_abiz> where I can send it?
[08:31] <ziroday> revilodraw: I have no idea, sorry. Does it happen on a new user?
[08:32] <ziroday> cow_keren_abiz: send it for what?
[08:32] <Fudge> the error i get using wubi is, Could not access the CD, please make sure other applications are not using it and try again
[08:32] <revilodraw> ziroday: excellent idea, ill try that
[08:32] <sixofour> what is a command line to extract all of X into Y location?
[08:32] <illumin8> jigspan: sudo poff dsl-provider
[08:32] <Titan8990> sixofour, extract? what kind of archive?
[08:32] <sixofour> .rar
[08:33] <Titan8990> sixofour, that is a proprietary MS format
[08:33] <sixofour> i'm aware of that
[08:33] <ziroday> sixofour: unrar /path/to/archive /path/to/extraction/dir
[08:33] <ziroday> Titan8990: it is not a MS format
[08:33] <jigspan> but it say that there is no pppd process to stop
[08:34] <illumin8> jigspan: ipconfig -a
[08:34] <illumin8> jigspan: pastbin results
[08:34] <Titan8990> ziroday, sorry, proprietary RARLAB format...
[08:34] <Titan8990> ziroday, that only developed their proprietary software for microsoft OSes
[08:34] <jigspan> what does it mean
[08:35] <ziroday> Titan8990: err no, there are decompression and compression tools available for OS X, Linux and BSD's I believe.
[08:35] <illumin8> !pastebin
[08:35] <Titan8990> ziroday, they were reverse engineered and not developed my the company that did winrar
[08:35] <sixofour> so unrar ziroday that doesn't work
[08:35] <Titan8990> ziroday, http://www.linux.com/articles/59888
[08:35] <sixofour> it jsut lists commands
[08:36] <ziroday> Titan8990: see http://www.rarsoft.com/download.htm there are linux and OS X binaries
[08:36] <TnadeN> ziroday, sudo make uninstall didn't work either, googled it and removed the files that it installed instead.
[08:36] <revilodraw> ziroday: a new user is even slower!
[08:36] <ziroday> sixofour: doesn't work how?
[08:36] <gerryxiao0> irc7 on plan9 test
[08:36] <ziroday> revilodraw: ouch, I dunno sorry. Sounds like a mess
[08:36] <sixofour> six@six-Mind:~$ sudo unrar /mnt/ext3/outgoing.rar /mnt/ext2
[08:37] <sixofour> Cannot open /mnt/ext2.rar
[08:37] <sixofour> No such file or directory
[08:37] <sixofour> tried it the other way around and it didn't work eitherr
[08:38] <jigspan> how to stop pppoe connection
[08:38] <revilodraw> is there a way to make ubuntu scan itself for problems???
[08:38] <sixofour> lol
[08:38] <ziroday> sixofour: try unrar e /path/to/file
[08:38] <Titan8990> revilodraw, that is very vague
[08:38] <Fudge> what is an easy to use virtual cd drive
[08:38] <Titan8990> revilodraw, what sort of problems?
[08:39] <illumin8> jigspan: type this sudo pppoe-discovery
[08:39] <gartral1> anyone know anything about obscure webcams?
[08:39] <Titan8990> Fudge, virtual cd drives is a windows thing, linux does it natively
[08:39] <apelgate> we have test servers but we need to monitor this production environment right now to determine where it's failing. For that, we need postfix to notify us of whatever is happening.
[08:39] <Titan8990> Fudge, just mount an image to whatever mount point you want
[08:39] <apelgate> While others work on the test server
[08:39] <Fudge> in map network drives?
[08:39] <illumin8> jigspan: sudo pppoe-status
[08:39] <Titan8990> Fudge, in the mount command
[08:39] <sixofour> pft,forgot capital letters
[08:39] <Fudge> Titan8990 i am in widnows sorry
[08:39] <sixofour> lol
[08:40] <illumin8> jigspan: what does the last command give you for results
[08:40] <revilodraw> Titan8990: yes, lol, just yesterday opening folders, files and programs became ultra-slow (maybe due to an update?) but once things are open they run fine... system monitor shows nothing hogging resources..
[08:40] <Titan8990> Fudge, then use #windows
[08:40] <Titan8990> !ot | Fudge
[08:40] <gartral1> anyone know how to get drivers for a webcam?
[08:41] <jigspan> access concentrator, service name & mac address
[08:41] <illumin8> Fudge: are you asking what a good livecd is?
[08:41] <Fudge> illumin8, no mate
[08:41] <illumin8> jigspan: try sudo pppoe-stop
[08:42] <jigspan> no when i try to disconnect my connection with poff cmd it say there is no pppd service nothing to stop
[08:43] <illumin8> jigspan: sudo pppoe-status shows active pppoe connections.
[08:43] <baz> hi, when i boot my bios shows 6gb of ram however ubuntu's ystem monitor says I have 2gb - what could be the reason for the discrepancy?
[08:44] <Titan8990> baz, are you using a 32bit version of linux?
[08:44] <baz> yeah
[08:44] <sixofour> how do i change the permissions of two drives?
[08:44] <revilodraw> quick question, does anyone have wireless internet (not wifi) working on ubuntu?
[08:44] <gartral1> http://www.xtatix.com/products/web_cameras/XCA-PP2/ <- these are great cams, and i would like to get mine working to some extent, both mac and windows drivers are on the site, is there a way to wrap the drivers, if so, how?
[08:44] <sixofour> so i don't need sudo to change them
[08:44] <baz> Titan8990, shouldn't it then be 4gb?
[08:44] <Aberration> Hi all!
[08:44] <Titan8990> baz, 32bit OSes have a limitation of 4gb of RAM
[08:44] <jigspan> illumin8: pppoe-status cmd not found
[08:45] <Titan8990> baz, yes, but some kernels like the one ubuntu uses for the dell mini's, limit RAM to 2gb
[08:45] <baz> Titan8990, i'd be happy with that, i downgraded to 32bit because of 1 program (flex builder) but i was expecting 4gb
[08:45] <baz> Titan8990, i have a sick awesome machine, no mini :)
[08:45] <Aberration> I installed fedora next to ubuntu, but I can't find no ubuntu in grub... I tried to paste the ubuntu's grub list into the fedora's grub list... it didn't work :(
[08:45] <illumin8> jigspan: http://www.techotopia.com/index.php/Connecting_an_Ubuntu_Linux_System_to_a_DSL_Modem
[08:46] <ikonia> Aberration: did you use a seperate /boot partition ?
[08:46] <ikonia> Aberration: or a shared one ?
[08:46] <Titan8990> baz, you could use the ubuntu server kernel which has high memory support (PXE)
[08:46] <ziroday> apelgate: sendmail might be better, compared to a full MTA
[08:46] <Aberration> Aberration: hell I don't know!
[08:46] <EspenBe> any of you succeeding having two external monitors connected to your laptop (one VGA and one DVI)?
[08:46] <jigspan> illumin8: thanks i ll try to see that
[08:46] <baz> Titan8990, so are u saying it is normal? I am running a standard 8.10 32bit desktop livecd install...
[08:46] <Aberration> ikonia sorry... again : Hell I don't know!
[08:46] <Rodrigo_Lopes> yes.. in fact kde and gnome is a peace of crap...
[08:46] <ikonia> Aberration: the bottom line is when you install 2 linux distros to different /boot directories/partitions you create a conflifct as there will be two menu.lst files
[08:47] <Titan8990> baz, not saying that....
[08:47] <ikonia> Aberration: which menas grub will only reference one (you have to work out which one) but each OS will update it's own menu.lst file which keeps them out of sync
[08:47] <Aberration> ikonia I got 2 list files!
[08:47] <gartral1> Rodrigo_Lopes: those are completly seperate environments
[08:47] <apelgate> ziroday: yes. maybe
[08:47] <kraut> moin
[08:47] <ikonia> Aberration: yes, thats not good
[08:47] <baz> Titan8990, ok so i should be getting the 4gb... right?
[08:47] <apelgate> It's untested with our scripts but should work
[08:48] <ziroday> apelgate: if you only need it to send you a mail when something fails thats a much better way then slapping in postfix
[08:48] <Titan8990> baz, couldn't say for sure, never tried to run > 2gb with stock ubuntu kernel
[08:48] <Rodrigo_Lopes> but gartrall.. the two.. is .. lost the unix tru spirit
[08:48] <Rodrigo_Lopes> *true
[08:48] <revilodraw> quick question, does anyone have wireless internet (not wifi) working on ubuntu?
[08:49] <Aberration> ikonia oooki... do you have an idea of the solution?
[08:49] <ikonia> revilodraw: yes
[08:49] <Titan8990> revilodraw, not wifi?
[08:49] <ikonia> Aberration: well, there are manu solutions, however you want to "fix" this so you don't have to keep fixing it
[08:49] <baz> Titan8990, it's a bit hardcore to swap out the kernel no?
[08:49] <ari_stress> is 64bit the same as dual-core?
[08:49] <ikonia> Aberration: the answer to that is re-install both OS's - but make sure you use a shared /boot partition
[08:49] <ikonia> Aberration: no
[08:50] <ikonia> Aberration: sorry - "no" wasn't for you
[08:50] <ikonia> ari_stress: no
[08:50] <Titan8990> baz, shouldn't be, it's a bit hardcore to compile your own kernel, which breaks ubuntu
[08:50] <Titan8990> baz, installing the server kernel should be as easy as using the package manager to install and configuring grub to boot it by default
[08:50] <Aberration> ikonia argh... but... what if I delete fedora and restore grub?
[08:50] <ziroday> ari_stress: all dual-core systems are 64bit IIRC
[08:50] <ikonia> Aberration: that won't change anything
[08:50] <illumin8> Aberration: are you attemtping to duel boot ubuntu and fedora?
[08:51] <illumin8> Aberration:  i did this earlier this month and can tell you what area of grub to edit to resolve conflicts.
[08:51] <baz> Titan8990, what should i google "swap kernel ubuntu"... no, no "swap" is too confusing... "replace kernel ubuntu"?
[08:51] <ari_stress> oh
[08:52] <Titan8990> baz, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-server-`uname -r`
[08:52] <Titan8990> baz, or something similar, use apt-cache search
[08:52] <baz> Titan8990, i also installed vmware server - i have a sneaky suspicion it maybe reserved some ram for itself... i'm going to investigate whether thats even possible and so low-level that ubuntu doesn't report what it stole - unfortunately i never checked my ram before the vmware install so i dont know if it was like that before
[08:52] <revilodraw> Titan8990: yeah, like wireless internet from a phone company, u need a usb device or network card.... ie; in australia, telstra bigpond wireless 3g
[08:52] <Aberration> illumin8 actually I got a triple boot vista/fedora/ubuntu but please tell me what you found out
[08:53] <Titan8990> baz, check: cat /proc/meminfo
[08:53] <Titan8990> baz, nothing is hidden from that
[08:53] <baz> Titan8990, it is truly a great era in linux when u can apt-get kernels!!!
[08:53] <revilodraw> I am starting to think my problem is solely nautilus' fault.. any idea?
[08:53] <ikonia> Aberration: if you want to do it right, delete ubuntu and fedora, restore your windows boot loader, then re-install the linux distros you want, but use a shared /boot partition
[08:54] <media_> what file to I edit to add modules during boot?
[08:54] <apelgate> ziroday: I will test that.. it probably has less dependencies as well
[08:54] <octavio> trs
[08:54] <media_> 8.10 intrepid
[08:54] <ziroday> media: /etc/modules
[08:54] <Titan8990> baz, hehe, most distros have a some type of method of installing a kernel via package management
[08:54] <octavio> what is a better so windows or nowdays ubuntu??
[08:54] <Titan8990> baz, but some distros still require you compile the kernel yourself (gentoo)
[08:55] <baz> Titan8990, gentoo is for unemployed stoners with lots of time to kill :) just kidding i respect gentoo
[08:55] <revilodraw> octavio: stupid question here
[08:55] <Aberration> ikonia if you don't mind I'll try to find a more subtle solution first... I did too many things to configure ubuntu properly ot re-install it from scratch...
[08:56] <ikonia> Aberration: ok - deelte fedora, re-apply grub from within the ubuntu livecd pointing grub at your menu.lst file on ubuntu partition
[08:56] <ubuntistas> does anyone here use hol?
[08:56] <Titan8990> baz, subtract unemployed and you have descibed me
[08:56] <illumin8> ikonia: have him reset grub to root on ubuntu?
[08:56] <baz> Titan8990, hehe, and me!
[08:57] <Titan8990> baz, who is a gentoo user so good assumption I suppose hehe
[08:57] <octavio> revilodraw, why stupid...... windows.. is more fast.. and more secure...... you need learn any lessons children
[08:57] <Aberration> ikonia many many thanks... but I find it weird that linux put vista on its grub and not other  linuxes...
[08:57] <media_> where is modules.conf in ubuntu? is it just '/etc/modules'?
[08:57] <illumin8> Aberration: you installed fedora after ubuntu and vista?
[08:57] <ikonia> Aberration: re-read what I just said and it explains why it uses it's "own"grub
[08:57] <ikonia> Aberration: it's user error
[08:57] <illumin8> Aberration: if so that means the fedora install took over the boot menu.
[08:57] <illumin8> yep
[08:58] <Aberration> illumin8 right
[08:58] <baz> octavio, what u will find out is ubuntu is a scam - someone stole windows source code, put an ugly brown skin on it and released it as ubuntu - they are in fact one and the same!
[08:58] <illumin8> Aberration: are you in fedora now?
[08:58] <Aberration> ikonia	as always ... i'll try to do this more carefully next time!
[08:58] <illumin8> Aberration: do you have a live cd available of ubuntu?
[08:58] <ziroday> media: yes, do sudo nano /etc/modules to edit it
[08:59] <eljikobie> irc://irc.efnet.org/eztv
[08:59] <octavio> and windows has microsoft  guaranty and more true good newers for all
[09:00] <gartral1> does anyone know of any obscure driver packs for webcams?
[09:01] <Aberration> illumin8 nop, I'm investigating from work, but I'll download an ubuntu live CD from either vista or fedora as soon as I'm home
[09:01] <octavio> baz  windows is fast, and better., and great so..you need understand this
[09:01] <sixofour> ugh!!!!!!!!!!!
[09:01] <Aberration> sixofour niag niag
[09:01] <sixofour> i unrared it but dunno where it unrared to and where ever it went ran out of space
[09:01] <Titan8990> !ohmy | octavio
[09:01] <sixofour> @#$%&
[09:02] <baz> octavio, i agree completely, i am just here to give fake advice to ubuntu users to make their lives more difficult - i am with u! sshhhhhhh
[09:02] <octavio> ... linux....need learn with bill gates.... to go on ...
[09:02] <illumin8> Aberration: Ok, to give you the simple method, without reinstalling, burn a livecd of ubuntu then boot into it, reset grub to use ubuntu as root, then edit the ubuntu menu.lst to include fedora.
[09:02] <sixofour> this is bullcrap
[09:02] <sixofour> is there any way to find out where somethign unrared to?
[09:02] <Titan8990> octavio, so all linux users can switch to freebsd?
[09:03] <sixofour> dolphin crashed too
[09:03] <sixofour> ............
[09:03] <illumin8> sixofour: the second part of your mnt command would locate the folder it would be in. Note that /mnt/example is not the same as ~/mnt/example
[09:03] <sixofour> why does kubuntu still ship with this crappy program?
[09:03] <baz> sixofour, did your resizing ever work out
[09:03] <sixofour> yes
[09:03] <gartral1> octavio: the _only_ advantage windows has over any linux OS is that it has legal blah support for corporate ways of doing thing (DRM Encrypling) and is really nothing more than a "walking BSoD" waiting too happen...
[09:03] <consoleart> hi all how do i install themes for cairo docl
[09:03] <sixofour> my drive is fine, i'm trying to extract ther .rar
[09:03] <Aberration> illumin8 it will erase both fedora and ubuntu grub, and replace it by a fresh one??
[09:03] <consoleart> dock*
[09:03] <octavio> Titan8990, .. no.. solaris.. and bsd and linux.. it is a begginers SO......but XP vista it is a PROFESSIONAL so....
[09:04] <ziroday> sixofour: did you do unrar e myfile.rar?
[09:04] <sixofour> yes
[09:04] <sixofour> i don't know where it unrared to and the dirve its on has no space left
[09:04] <ziroday> sixofour: then its in the same dir as the archive you extracted
[09:04] <sixofour> its somewhere on my Os install
[09:04] <sixofour> its not
[09:04] <ziroday> sixofour: that is what the e option does, it is.
[09:04] <sixofour> the drive my .rar is on has 90 gb left
[09:05] <sixofour> it didn't this time
[09:05] <illumin8> Aberration: No, the menu.lst is simply the bootloader, which you decide which os to boot into. But your problem is that fedora installs its own to its own section of your hd, (which doesnt scan of other stage1) without you telling it to.
[09:05] <ziroday> sixofour: well then that archive is corrupted.
[09:05] <sixofour> no it isn't
[09:05] <illumin8> Aberration: Setting ubuntu as your primary grub would help you resolve the issue.
[09:05] <sixofour> it unrared in a palce other than the location fo the archive
[09:05] <octavio> yeap...linux.., bsd, solaris.....its like a flinstons so...but I want new tecnology... and windows is a best for ever
[09:05] <sixofour> i know because my Os drive has 0 bytes elft
[09:06] <Aberration> illumin8 oki doki! Many many thanks to you too!
[09:06] <illumin8> Aberration: note that once you set ubuntu as your primary you will have to manually add fedora to the boot menu with specific command lines.
[09:06] <gartral1> sixofour: if it isn't unextracting properly, it's either corrupt, or password protected
[09:06] <Titan8990> octavio, I noticed today that the my school's financial aid department computer had mywebsearch toolbars
[09:06] <sixofour> oh man
[09:06] <Titan8990> octavio, there is one feature that makes windows > linux, right?
[09:06] <tc111> i'm trying to set up rsync to exclude dapper and gutsy so far this is what i have... rsync -vhhzru --stats --progress --exclude="dapper***" --exclude="gutsy***" rsync://ubuntu.media.mit.edu/ubuntu/ /var/www/ubuntu/ ... but how do i exclude the gutsy and dapper files from the 'pool'?
[09:06] <TnadeN> Titan8990, fail!
[09:06] <SlimeyPete> sixofour: that's odd
[09:06] <illumin8> Aberration: When you are ready to edit the grub see this webpage..http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/linux-newbie/112118-dual-boot-fedora-8-ubuntu-desktop-version.html
[09:06] <sixofour> i don't want to sound rude, but please read everything i said before you comment
[09:06] <Titan8990> TnadeN, very
[09:06] <Aberration> illumin8 I know but I'll find out what to wright later...
[09:06] <sixofour> there is nothing wrong with the unrar process
[09:07] <illumin8> Aberration: though the version is not accurate the commands work.
[09:07] <sixofour> i simply don't know WHERe it unrared at on my Os drive
[09:07] <SlimeyPete> sixofour: don't mean to patronise, but are you *sure* it's on the right drive? As in, you've checked the path using "pwd", and checked your mounts using "mount"
[09:07] <baz> sixofour, what irc client r u using?
[09:07] <sixofour> and it didn't unrasr in the location of the archive
[09:07] <octavio> Titan8990, .. you right... WINDOWS is > linux......LINUX SUX
[09:07] <sixofour> konvorsation
[09:07] <Aberration> illumin8 Last question : when fedora/ubuntu install a new kernel it is added in the list file... I guess that I'll have to add fedora lines manually?
[09:07] <jpds> tc111: #ubuntu-mirrors is your friend.
[09:08] <sixofour> look, i had 2 gb left on my Os drive i  unrared the file and it couldn't finish ebacuse it ran out of space and my OS drive has 0 space left
[09:08] <tc111> jpds: nobody home... ;)
[09:08] <baz> sixofour, its killing me that your messages aren't prefixed with the user you are talking to (in the friendliest possible way :)) did u know u can type just a few letters of their name and press tab to complete it
[09:08]  * gartral1 points octavio twords wubi
[09:08] <sixofour> bax i'm talking to 6 people
[09:08] <sixofour> baz
[09:08] <illumin8> Aberration: ubuntu will be by default, fedora will need to be maintained.
[09:08] <sixofour> all about the same issue
[09:08] <baz> sixofour, oh ok
[09:09] <baz> sixofour, thats fair then
[09:09] <sixofour> so how do i find these files?
[09:09] <mikebeecham> hey guys...I have a gvfs folder setup, which I use as a source for my MP3s.  When I reboot my machine, my media player cannot access the source until I open it in nautilus...is there anyway to avoid this?
[09:09] <pyr3sayz> sixofour: do a file list on the archive
[09:09] <galvus_damor> i have some problems with my usb flash drive if i insert it ist is not mounted automatically no i don't know whether the drive is borken or something else so could you say me how i can find out what's wrong with the drive
[09:09] <SlimeyPete> sixofour: right, so the most likely cause is that the original rar file isn't actually on the drive that you think it's on. I know that seems dumb but I really suggest that you double-check. Once you've confirmed that it's not the case, you could try running a search to see where it's dumped the files
[09:09] <Aberration> illumin8 oki, thanks
[09:09] <octavio> yes....
[09:09] <revilodraw> With regard to Octavio -  Trolls?! On MY #Ubuntu??!!
[09:09] <TnadeN> what's the channel for ubuntu general?
[09:10] <sixofour> slimy,its 9 gb file, it only fits on one drive
[09:10] <SlimeyPete> TnadeN: #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:10] <sixofour> if its not there then it doesn't exist
[09:10] <SlimeyPete> ah, I see
[09:10] <sixofour> my Os drive is 8gb and the other is 160gb
[09:10] <octavio> revilodraw, ..speak... and counter speak...troll its you.....
[09:10] <sixofour> but sudo unrar e /filepath extracted it to my 8Gb drive
[09:10] <SlimeyPete>  /filepath??
[09:10] <sixofour> yes filepath
[09:11] <SlimeyPete> that'll put it on your OS drive
[09:11] <SlimeyPete>  / == root
[09:11] <sixofour> yes
[09:11] <sixofour> i know that aprt now
[09:11] <sixofour> part*
[09:11] <SlimeyPete> aha, I see
[09:11] <sixofour> but WHERE on root?
[09:11] <SlimeyPete> wherever the path specifies.
[09:11] <SlimeyPete> what filepath did you use?
[09:11] <sixofour> none
[09:11] <sixofour> sudo unrar e /ment/ext3/file.rar
[09:12] <sixofour> mnt*
[09:12] <revilodraw> octavio:  In Soviet Russia, troll trolls you! I am finding your input here hilarious, please continue... ps; please do so in your charming Engrish
[09:12] <SlimeyPete> sixofour: what directory where you in when you ran that command?
[09:12] <SlimeyPete> it'll extract into your current directory.
[09:12] <sixofour> what ever you are in when you open konsole
[09:12] <pyr3sayz> sixofour: run this `unrar l /ment/ext3/file.rar | less`
[09:12] <illumin8> Aberration: when you do decide to edit grub in ubuntu this is the command to add fedora..title Fedora 10
[09:12] <sixofour> dolphin keeps getting fatal errors is there another file browser i can use?
[09:12] <illumin8> configfile (hd0,0)/grub/grub.conf
[09:13] <SlimeyPete> that'll be /home, by default. Which is *probably* on your bigger drive, but to check, type "mount" and look for the line which specifies /home
[09:13] <pyr3sayz> it'll show you the file paths of the contained files, then you can search for them
[09:13] <illumin8> Aberration: configfile (hd0,0)/grub/grub.conf
[09:13] <SlimeyPete>  /home may actually be on your 8GB drive
[09:13] <octavio> kkkkkk
[09:13] <sixofour> so what am i looking at pyr3sayz?
[09:13] <derrick-mary> hello all
[09:14] <octavio> im...see everthing.. and everybody........cry children cry
[09:14] <pyr3sayz> it's a listing of all the files in the archive
[09:14] <lenni_-_> i have  server that runs 8.04. i don't really want to upgrade everything just on packager (mercurial). is that possible?
[09:14] <mikebeecham> hey guys...I have a gvfs folder setup, which I use as a source for my MP3s.  When I reboot my machine, my media player cannot access the source until I open it in nautilus...is there anyway to avoid this?
[09:14] <pyr3sayz> each file has a path attached to it, which maybe causing their final destination to be obscured from you...
[09:15] <SlimeyPete> sixofour: if you could pastebin the output of "mount" then it'd give us a better idea of the layout of your drives, which might help us help you :)
[09:15] <sixofour> there is no file path
[09:15] <sixofour> superbass.wav    21624    13337  61% 24-04-05 16:04  .....A.   7C5A5077 m3g 2.9
[09:15] <pyr3sayz> And if someone packed the archive wrong, sometimes that path isn't relative, but absolute. (it's possible to pack a file with a path of /usr/local instead of usr/local)
[09:15] <sixofour> that is what each entry looks likle
[09:15] <Aberration> illumin8 thanks! Or maybe... what if I delete fedora and reinstall it with a sharing boot partition... will they botj (ub and fed) update list automatically?
[09:15] <sixofour> i amde the file on windows
[09:16] <mattg> dose any one know of a good network monitoring tool for ubuntu
[09:16] <ddoom> when I xdmcp into a ubuntu 8.04 system, the option to unlock any administration options (e.g. System->Administration->Network Unlock button) is greyed out. Anyone know how to get around this?
[09:16] <pyr3sayz> if there is no file path, it's possible there is no path with that file.
[09:16] <mattg> dose any one know of a good network monitoring tool for ubuntu ??
[09:16] <fosco_> mattg: iptraf
[09:16] <illumin8> Aberration: I attempted 2 methods when i installed both, first ubuntu then fedora and vice versa, both methods still needed the menu.lst edit.
[09:17] <illumin8> Aberration: its possible you can find an alternate method, im simply speaking from my experience in what worked.
[09:17] <mattg> thank you fosco
[09:18] <SlimeyPete> sixofour: did you try typing "mount" to see where your /home is? :)
[09:18] <sixofour> i know where it is
[09:18] <blackgraz> hey
[09:18] <sixofour> i put it where it is :D
[09:18] <Aberration> illumin8 yet, you've helped me enough! Many thanks!
[09:18] <sixofour> its on the , now full, 8gb drive
[09:18] <SlimeyPete> ah
[09:19] <SlimeyPete> well that'll be the problem then :)
[09:19] <blackgraz> i got a question i was thinking about you ubuntu users
[09:19] <sixofour> thats not a problem, MY entire Os is on that drive
[09:19] <sixofour> i don't use /home/
[09:19] <blackgraz> who uses their 2 desktop as their porn desktop
[09:19] <SlimeyPete> sixofour: when you ran the unrar command it'll have tried to extract to the current directory.
[09:19] <SlimeyPete> sixofour: your current directory was /home/
[09:19] <sixofour> i use /mnt/ext3/ and ext2/
[09:19] <sixofour> yep
[09:20] <sixofour> ./home/doesn't have my files though
[09:20] <SlimeyPete> so it'll have tried to extract to /home/. Which is on your 8GB drive.
[09:20] <SlimeyPete> the path will be /home/yourusername/
[09:20] <sixofour> infact, /home/ has nothing in it lol
[09:20] <sixofour> god i hate dolphin
[09:20] <sixofour> it says there is 3 files, but they arn't showing
[09:20] <SlimeyPete> use the terminal instead :)
[09:21] <sixofour> then i will have to spent 5 more days just to view /home/
[09:21] <SlimeyPete> just open it and type "ls"
[09:21] <sixofour> no log fire [press return]
[09:21] <sixofour> file
[09:21] <pyr3sayz> sixofour: are you on a live cd?
[09:21] <sixofour> no
[09:22] <sixofour> ft
[09:22] <sixofour> dolphin si frozemn
[09:22] <pyr3sayz> Do you know the names of some of the files in the archive?
[09:22] <sixofour> and i'm about to delete /home/
[09:22] <SlimeyPete> sixofour: yeah, things tend to break when you have no space left on your OS drive
[09:22] <SlimeyPete> don't delete /home/
[09:22] <SlimeyPete> that'll break your OS
[09:22] <sixofour> dolphin already broke it by existing
[09:22] <baz> Titan8990, is that pae suggestion you gave me basically upgrading to 64bit - or is it 32bit with more memory support
[09:22] <Titan8990> baz, 32bit with more memory support
[09:22] <sixofour> apparnetly everything is in /home/
[09:23] <Titan8990> baz, some consider it a "hack"
[09:23] <pyr3sayz> deleteing home won't break your OS... so long as you recreate it... when you create a new user it's blank anyways.
[09:23] <Titan8990> baz, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_Address_Extension
[09:23] <sixofour> so how do i shfit select and delete only the extracted files?
[09:23] <SlimeyPete> pyr3sayz: it'll break it in the sense that he'll lose all his settings etc.
[09:23] <sixofour> in konsole
[09:23] <illumin8> sixofour: could you please type out the command you used ot do the transfer.
[09:23] <SlimeyPete> sixofour: just do "ls", then do "rm filename"
[09:23] <sixofour> sudo unrar e /mnt/ext3/Outgoing.rar
[09:24] <sixofour> slimy
[09:24] <sixofour> there is about 58935 files in /home/
[09:24] <SlimeyPete> sixofour: right, but you know the name of the big file you tried to extract
[09:24] <SlimeyPete> that's the only one you need to delete.
[09:24] <sixofour> why?
[09:24] <sixofour> i need it
[09:24] <illumin8> sixofour: k do this, ls *.rar
[09:24] <SlimeyPete> sixofour: it's not even all there
[09:24] <sixofour> the .rar isn't in /home/
[09:25] <SlimeyPete> yes it is.
[09:25] <sixofour> the .rar is all there
[09:25] <sixofour> no its not
[09:25] <SlimeyPete> no, sorry
[09:25] <SlimeyPete> not the rar
[09:25] <sixofour> the ./rar is in ext3
[09:25] <SlimeyPete> the .wav
[09:25] <FloodBot2> SlimeyPete: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:25] <SlimeyPete> the one it tried to extract
[09:25] <sixofour> ok so there is now 58934 files left...
[09:25] <SlimeyPete> look, you tried to extract the .rar whilst you were in the home directory in the terminal, right? Therefore unrar will have attempted to extract the .wav from the .rar into the home directory.
[09:25] <sixofour> and about 200kb left on the drive
[09:26] <sixofour> let me re explain
[09:26] <baz> Titan8990, excuse my insolence but i type this line EXACTLY as it is, even with the wierd single quotes: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-server-`uname -r`
[09:26] <illumin8> sixofour: you basicly unzipped the rar to home?
[09:26] <sixofour> i extracted the fileS, it worked fine untill the drive ran out of space, i want to delete what is already extracted and reextract it on the bigger drive
[09:27] <Titan8990> baz, that might not be exactly it, but yes even with the ticks
[09:27] <Titan8990> !search ubuntu-server
[09:27] <SlimeyPete> sixofour: Right... there's only one file in the .rar, though? The .wav?
[09:27] <pyr3sayz> Hold up... I'll whip you up a one-liner to delete the files
[09:27] <sixofour> no, there are veral hundred thousand
[09:27] <Titan8990> !info ubuntu-server-kernel
[09:27] <sixofour> several*
[09:27] <SlimeyPete> Oh... sorry
[09:27] <SlimeyPete> hrm
[09:27] <sixofour> its a 9 gigabyte .rar
[09:27] <ddoom> I can't unlock any administrative settings when using xdmcp to connect to an ubuntu 8.04 system, any ideas?
[09:27] <sixofour> only about 2gb extracted
[09:27] <SlimeyPete> Sorry, I thought it had a single massive WAV in it
[09:27] <koshari> sixofour use a live disc to mount the drive and delete the rar.
[09:27] <sixofour> oh no, that would be a big wav though
[09:28] <sixofour> that .wav is from my sample packs
[09:28] <sixofour> flstudio :P
[09:28] <SlimeyPete> right... hrm. And if there were no paths in the .rar... well, you're stuffed tbh.
[09:28] <Titan8990> baz, try: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-kernel-`uname -r`-server
[09:28] <sixofour> i need to get to /home/ in dolphin or something, shift select everything and delete it
[09:28] <pyr3sayz> sixofour: You said that they were all in the /home/ directory, right?
[09:28] <SlimeyPete> there's no automatic way to remove the files unelss you write a shell-script to do it
[09:28] <pyr3sayz> not the /home/username dir ?
[09:28] <Titan8990> baz, its going to be someting similar... you can search synaptic
[09:28] <sixofour> slimy this is why GUI is superiour :P
[09:29] <Titan8990> baz, and also do uname -r from the terminal to see your current running config version
[09:29] <sixofour> its /home/six/ i think
[09:29] <pyr3sayz> Ok.
[09:29] <sixofour> six@six-Mind:~$
[09:29] <SlimeyPete> sixofour: actually, I have an idea
[09:29] <PanTofel> kto ma doświadczenie z kartami TV/framegraberami na expresscard ?
[09:29] <pyr3sayz> unrar lb /path/to/archive.rar | while read FILE; do rm /home/six/$FILE; done
[09:29] <SlimeyPete> ... or that
[09:29] <Titan8990> sixofour, its superiour because you know how to use a GUI but not CLI? what about us that are very efficient with cli?
[09:29] <sixofour> what will that do pyr?
[09:29] <SlimeyPete> is it that simple?
[09:29] <pyr3sayz> replace '/path/to/archive.rar' with the path to the archive
[09:29] <sixofour> i'm not us :D
[09:29] <PanTofel> Juliiiie:
[09:30] <illumin8> hmm just throwing this out there but isnt there a way to list modifided dates on ls? or delete anything with a specific modfied time?
[09:30] <SlimeyPete> Titan8990: don't derail us into an argument please ;)
[09:30] <pyr3sayz> and '/home/six' with the path to where the files are
[09:30] <Titan8990> SlimeyPete, sorry, wasn't the first comment like that from him
[09:30] <SlimeyPete> yeah, pyr3sayz speaks wisdom. Do what he/she says :)
[09:30] <sixofour> also how can i make /mnt/ext2/ and /mnt/ext3/ [one hard drive, two partitions] write and readable without sudo?
[09:31] <baz> Titan8990, it said it couldn't find the package but i found this, what do u think: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-server linux-image-server linux-server
[09:31] <Titan8990> baz, not headers
[09:31] <Titan8990> baz, possibly linux-image-server, does it give a version number?
[09:31] <AdvoWork> Is there a way whilst running ubuntu to kill the x session but still be left with a terminal so i can install some graphics drivers?
[09:32] <pyr3sayz> sixofour: with the 'mount' command, though if you are talking about making your entire filesystem writeable without sudo... that's not a good idea
[09:32] <pyr3sayz> There's a reason things are like that.
[09:32] <sixofour> pyr3sayz:
[09:32] <sixofour> what you told me to type gaves about 389678956 "no such file or directory, cannot remove" thingies
[09:32] <pyr3sayz> Ah, you used sudo to unpack the archive
[09:33] <Titan8990> baz, found it :)
[09:33] <pyr3sayz> sudo bash -c "STUFF I GAVE YOU ALREADY HERE"
[09:33] <sixofour> "OK WILL DO"
[09:33] <pyr3sayz> just put the previous line in between the quotes
[09:33] <sixofour> well, it has to finish failing first
[09:33] <Titan8990> baz, sudo apt-get install kernel-image-`uname -r`-server
[09:34] <baz> Titan8990, alright lets give it a go!
[09:34] <baz> Titan8990, if i don't report back in 60 seconds, tell my mother i love her
[09:34] <Titan8990> baz, hehe
[09:35] <baz> Titan8990, couldnt find it again
[09:35] <sixofour> is there any way to "canel" an action in progress in konsole?
[09:35] <baz> Titan8990, Couldn't find package kernel-image-2.6.27-13-generic-server
[09:35] <pyr3sayz> canel?
[09:35] <sixofour> cancel
[09:35] <Titan8990> baz, ah, its appending generic....
[09:35] <pyr3sayz> control-c
[09:35] <Titan8990> baz, sudo apt-get install kernel-image-2.6.27-13-server
[09:36] <pyr3sayz> or control-\ is another
[09:36] <arun_> google talk not working with wine, plz help
[09:36] <sixofour> same thing pyr3sayz
[09:36] <tangzhiqiao> how to use wine
[09:36] <sixofour> sudo bash -c unrar lb /mnt/ext3/Outgoing.rar | while read FILE;do rm /home/six/$FILE; done
[09:36] <Titan8990> baz, good?
[09:37] <arun_> google talk not working with wine, plz help
[09:37] <sixofour> #winehq
[09:37] <baz> Titan8990, no sir: Couldn't find package kernel-image-2.6.27-13-server
[09:37] <Titan8990> arun_, why not use pidgin that supports XMPP?
[09:37] <fosco_> !wine | tangzhiqiao
[09:37] <pyr3sayz> you need quotes around the first line I gave you
[09:37] <Titan8990> baz, apt-cache search kernel-image
[09:37] <pyr3sayz> sudo bash -c "unrar lb /mnt/ext3/Outgoing.rar | while read FILE;do rm /home/six/$FILE; done"
[09:37] <Titan8990> baz, pick a version and install it....
[09:37] <sixofour> ....
,i'm using that,but unable to transfer files 2 google talk friends
[09:38] <sixofour> lol still doesn't work      rm: cannot remove `/home/six/': Is a directory
[09:38] <sixofour> million of those
[09:38] <Titan8990> sixofour, use rm -rf  for directories
[09:38] <pyr3sayz> sudo bash -c "unrar lb /mnt/ext3/Outgoing.rar | while read FILE;do rm /home/six/\$FILE; done"
[09:38] <Titan8990> sixofour, careful though, its a powerful command
[09:38] <pyr3sayz> sudo bash -c "unrar lb /mnt/ext3/Outgoing.rar | while read FILE;do rm -rf /home/six/\$FILE; done"
[09:38] <sixofour>  why don't we just work on getting dolphin fixed?
[09:38] <pyr3sayz> Err yea... I thought you only had files
[09:39] <baz> Titan8990, maybe i'm missing a source or something.. that search only gets me: kernel-package - A utility for building Linux kernel related Debian packages. >>>>> and some other "Comedi" thing
[09:39] <pyr3sayz> I also forgot the '\' before $FILE
[09:39] <sixofour> lol
[09:40] <Titan8990> baz, yes, I am starting to think that the server version uses a different repo
[09:40] <sixofour> so remove it?
[09:40] <breeze> ibus  can't focus  in the opera
[09:40] <pyr3sayz> the last version I gave you should work (the '\' wasn't needed before I passed it into bash... it's like almost 3am though :P)
[09:40] <sixofour> nothing
[09:40] <sixofour> it just goes to the next empty line
[09:40] <pyr3sayz> sixofour: you need the '\' before $FILE
[09:40] <sixofour> ....
[09:40] <sixofour> i did that too same thing
[09:41] <breeze> who know how to deal with
[09:41] <pyr3sayz> Did you run that without the '\'?
[09:41] <sixofour> both
[09:41] <Titan8990> baz, no mention of it in the ubuntu documentation though....
[09:42] <ajopaul> when i want to conver a dvd vob file to flv format using ffmpeg i get frame rate mismatch error, output is here http://ffmpeg.pastebin.com/d77914298
[09:42] <pyr3sayz> well, without the '\' it removed '/home/six' ... that's why I told you to run the final line that I gave you...
[09:42] <sixofour> i did it with both
[09:43] <sixofour> didn't work
[09:43] <pyr3sayz> is /home/six still there?
[09:43] <baz> Titan8990, i keep finding this, but you don't like the headers eh: sudo apt-get install linux-server linux-headers-server
[09:43] <sixofour> yes
[09:43] <sixofour> ive only copy pasted what you have given
[09:44] <Titan8990> baz, headers is only needed for installing modules, you need the kernel image to boot it
[09:44] <Titan8990> baz, give linux-server a shot
[09:44] <pyr3sayz> Change '-rf' to '-r' and run it (the 'f' is telling it not to complain) then tell me what it says
[09:44] <Titan8990> baz, and go ahead and grab the headers, especially if you have modules such as alsa that will need them
[09:45] <sixofour> rm: cannot remove `Defaults.PspScript': No such file or directory
[09:45] <sixofour> job-working-directory: error retrieving current directory: getcwd: cannot access parent directories: No such file or director
[09:45] <a_> j
[09:45] <sixofour> +y
[09:45] <Sabir> Can I use a fingerprint instead of passwords on key ring?
[09:45] <sixofour> lol
[09:45] <baz> Titan8990, so run the command as i typed it right, with the headers and everything together...
[09:45] <a_> how can i change the speed HDD 7200-5400?
[09:46] <arussel> I just installed ubuntu on a Sony Vaio VGN-FW21M. The 'scrolling' from the touch pad doesn't work. What can I do ?
[09:46] <pyr3sayz> sixofour: sounds like there may be some problems due to the Os drive filling up...
[09:47] <ddoom> anyone know why I can't access the unlock button on the administrative settings when I connect to ubuntu 8.04 via xdmcp or vnc?
[09:47] <koshari> a_: by replacing it
[09:47] <sixofour> if i could access /home/ in dolphin i can just "select all" "delete" lol
[09:47] <sixofour> ./home/six/
[09:48] <baz> Titan8990, 103mb to be installed - legit?
[09:49] <rww> ddoom: It's a known issue. Most of the first page of http://www.google.com/search?q=vnc+unlock+policykit+ubuntu is relevant
[09:49] <alexmac> Hi
[09:49] <alexmac> I'm looking at instructions that say to : export VARIABLE=~/.something/something_else
[09:49] <alexmac> What does "~/.something" do?
[09:50] <rww> alexmac: ~/ is the same thing as /home/yourusername/
[09:50] <pyr3sayz> sudo bash -c "unrar vb /mnt/ext3/Outgoing.rar | while read FILE;do rm -r \"/home/six/\$FILE\"; done"
[09:50] <alexmac> rww: I see, thanks
[09:50] <pyr3sayz> 'unrar lb archive.rar' wasn't giving the full path to the file
[09:50] <sixofour> lol i can't even open dolphin from konsole anymore
[09:50] <sixofour> unknown program name
[09:51] <baz> alexmac, also the .something is a file or folder that will be hidden by default since it starts with a period - usually for config/app stuff
[09:51] <Titan8990> baz, sounds big but ubuntu kernel is bloated
[09:51] <sixofour> doesn't work pyr3sayz
[09:51] <a_> как скорость винта уменьшить?
[09:51] <sixofour> same error as before
[09:51] <Myrtti> !ru | a_
[09:51] <rww> !ru | a_
[09:51] <baz> Titan8990, all done, system restart required... see u soon :) thanks too!
[09:51] <alexmac> oh so it's a hidden file?
[09:51] <alexmac> or, should be at least?
[09:52] <archman> Anyone got Alcohol 120% working?
[09:52] <Titan8990> baz, np
[09:52] <baz> i think the fact that it has a period means nautlius will hide it for you
[09:52] <rww> alexmac: It's hidden in "ls" on the command line, and in GNOME's file browser, by default, yes. To show hidden files in Nautilus/GNOME file browser, do View > Show Hidden Files.
[09:52] <alexmac> ah
[09:52] <alexmac> ok, cool
[09:52] <alexmac> I'm only using ssh, so I don't have gnome..
[09:53] <alexmac> but thanks for the note
[09:53] <rww> alexmac: you'd use "ls -a" to see hidden files, then
[09:53] <alexmac> ah
[09:53] <alexmac> awesome, thanks
[09:53] <alexmac> so to make a directory hidden by default do you just do: mkdir .hidden
[09:53] <alexmac> (where hidden is the name of the dir)
[09:54] <sixofour> is there another file browser i can use?
[09:54] <sixofour> i got kde4 atm
[09:54] <rww> alexmac: .hidden would be the name of the dir, but yeah. I think nautilus does the same thing for files ending in ~, too, but ls shows them.
[09:55] <pyr3sayz> sixofour: so you're still getting the 'cannot access parent directories' error?
[09:55] <alexmac> thanks
[09:55] <sixofour> yes i can't open anything on the desktop either
[09:55] <pyr3sayz> sudo bash -c "unrar vb /mnt/ext3/Outgoing.rar | while read FILE;do rm -rv \"/home/six/\$FILE\"; done"
[09:55] <sixofour> can't
[09:56] <sixofour> i can't open konsole
[09:56] <pyr3sayz> hit control-alt-1
[09:56] <sixofour> wether from the desktop or the menu
[09:56] <pyr3sayz> control-alt-F1
[09:56] <sixofour> 1
[09:56] <pyr3sayz> i meant
[09:56] <bazhang> sixofour, alt f2 konsole
[09:57] <arussel> on sony vaio, right click doesn't work, middle wheel emulation doesn't work, and sometimes left click is funny. What part is fucked ? is there a mouse driver ? could it be that ?
[09:58] <rww> !ohmy > arussel
[09:58] <pyr3sayz> bazhang: he's on a sinking ship... he's filled his install drive and I think he's running out of memory.
[09:58] <arussel> rww: thanks, I hadn't see it
[10:01] <rdz> hi all.. is there way to see what process is blocking me from unmounting a certain volume?
[10:01] <baz> guess whose back with 6b of ram!! it worked Titan8990 without hitches so far
[10:02] <cow_keren_abiz> hi...
[10:03] <jared> hey guys
[10:04] <alexmac> rww would you mind helping me again please?
[10:04] <alexmac> hi jared
[10:04] <jared> Question: This morning I was not able to enable Wireless, option is greyed out. What is wrong ? What can I do ? yesterday it worked just fine....
[10:04] <alexmac> I set an environment variable inside of /etc/environment so that I have this
[10:04] <alexmac> variable="/home/.something/cert-something.pem"
[10:05] <jared> hey @ll
[10:05] <alexmac> but when I type in echo $variable, I get "export : '/home/.something/cert-something.pem': not a valid identifier
[10:05] <alexmac> Any idea waht could cause the ": not a valid identifier" error?
[10:05] <alexmac> hi jared
[10:06] <jared> let me see
[10:07] <rww> alexmac: Not sure. I haven't used /etc/environment, so I'm not aware of any nuances of it.
[10:07] <jared> echo works fine with me.. how did you set the variable ?
[10:07] <Jari--> hi! anyone here familiar on using Linux and Chinese kb layout & pinyin ?
[10:07] <jared> hey Jari
[10:07] <alexmac> I set it inside of /etc/environment
[10:07] <alexmac> how do you typically add environment variables then?
[10:08] <private> привет всемм
[10:08] <private> Вобщем решил обновится до 8.10 после обновления настроил сеть вроде всё правильно сеть у меня 10мбит захожу в терминал пишу sudo mii-tool -F 10baseT-FD eth0 выдаёт ошибку "SIOCSMIIREG on eth0 failed: Operation not supported"  ну позже на моё удивление оказуется что сеть сама опредилилась на
[10:08] <private> 10 мбит но всёравноо непашет . Подскажите что делать?
[10:08] <rww> !ru | private
[10:08] <rww> alexmac: I only have one user account, so I just set them in ~/.bashrc
[10:09] <nord_> anyone who has set up an imapd without getting lag? I've 1,6 GB of mailbox (different imap directories) and its getting really slow. Any suggestions what to do?
[10:10] <jared> alexmax what do you mean by setting inside environment ? I did: set variable = ....
[10:10] <baz> nord_, switch to google imap hosting :) I did a few months ago and i love it
[10:10] <nord_> baz: Not possible here, but i know it works. :)
[10:11] <milligan> I have set up my nic in /etc/network/interfaces .. but it seems that dhcpclient or something else is running, causing me to get a dhcp ip. How can I disable the client ? I killed NetworkManager, but it STILL got the dhcp ip.
[10:11] <rww> milligan: can you paste your /etc/network/interfaces file to http://paste.ubuntu.com/, please?
[10:11] <private> decided to update to 8.10 after the upgrade for network like everything on my network 10Mg/bits go to the terminal write sudo mii-tool-F 10baseT-FD eth0 gives error "SIOCSMIIREG on eth0 failed: Operation not supported" Well to my surprise later occasion that the network itself opredililas at 10 Mbit but vseravnoo nepashet Undecided. Give what to do?
[10:12] <alexmac> ok
[10:12] <alexmac> I figured it out...
[10:12] <alexmac> its because I was doing /home/.something
[10:12] <alexmac> turns out that it didn't like the .something
[10:12] <alexmac> maybe that is what the ~ is for haha
[10:13] <milligan> rww, http://paste.ubuntu.com/129686/ -- ip is partially obfuscated.
[10:13] <ziroday> alexmac: why does your homedir begin with a .? That makes it hidden?
[10:13] <ziroday> milligan: we can still tell your IP :)
[10:14] <milligan> ziroday, because of the mask, or a lookup on me here? :)
[10:14] <ziroday> milligan: lookup on you here
[10:14] <milligan> brb
[10:15] <milligan> ah, nvm
[10:15] <milligan> Looks like a networking restart worked without d/c'ing me
[10:15] <opengyan> hello all !! help needed  !! ubuntu on HP laptop .....
[10:15] <sixofour> !!!!!!!
[10:16] <temporarytao> opengyan, what's the problem?
[10:16] <opengyan> touchpad click is soooooo much embrassing
[10:16] <milligan> rww, I have an idea what might be wrong.. the eth1 interface doesn't exist. Could it be that ubuntu somehow checks for up/down activity on eth1, according to this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=521154, and fires dhcp client based on that ?
[10:16] <opengyan> i wanted to stop it ..so changed the xorg.conf
[10:16] <sixofour> aw crap that guy messed my pc up and then elft -_-
[10:16] <opengyan> it was ok some time back...again started troubling
[10:16] <sixofour> baz:
[10:16] <sixofour> you here?
[10:16] <temporarytao> opengyan, what version?
[10:17] <opengyan> Option          "SHMConfig"             "on"
[10:17] <opengyan>         Option          "MaxDoubleTapTime"      "0"
[10:17] <opengyan> sorry man but i am on gutsy
[10:17] <opengyan> too lazy to upgrade ...
[10:18] <opengyan> temporarytao: 7.10
[10:18] <temporarytao> opengyan, what specifically is the problem? what do you mean: "touchpad click is soooooo much embrassing"
[10:19] <opengyan> temporarytao: it toubles me while i type ...so i want to 1. disable the double click 2. if possible totally disable if i am typing
[10:19] <venu> I have downloaded intel 82845g graphics driver.. its extension is .gz. i don't know how to install it..can some one help me
[10:19] <temporarytao> doesn't your disable touchpad shortcut key work?
[10:20] <temporarytao> for me, if i press Fn + F7, the touchpad key locks
[10:20] <opengyan> temporarytao: i just installed ksyanputtic but now use
[10:20] <sixofour> god damnit
[10:20] <opengyan> temporarytao: agree it works . but re-enabling is an headache ...and some time the laptop just hangs ...
[10:21] <temporarytao> opengyan, i never heard of that software before (sounds like a KDE app)
[10:21] <opengyan> temporarytao: yes
[10:21] <temporarytao> you're on KDE?
[10:22] <sixofour> how do you access kubuntu install from a live cd?
[10:22] <temporarytao> sixofour, if you want to install kubuntu, i think you should download a kubuntu live cd
[10:22] <sixofour> i was listening to someone in here on a big issue blqah blah, now my install is broken and i can't log in
[10:23] <sixofour> i need to empty some space on my install drive
[10:23] <sixofour> so how do i do that
[10:24] <temporarytao> sixofour, delete stuff? :)
[10:24] <sixofour> how?
[10:24] <SlimeyPete> sixofour: "sudo apt-get clean" will often reclaim some space
[10:24] <sixofour> i'm on a livecd, i can't login because there is 0 bytes left on the drive
[10:24] <SlimeyPete> as it'll delete cached package files, which can amount to a few hundred megs sometimes
[10:25] <SlimeyPete> oh
[10:25] <sixofour> its not that, i unrared a file on the os drive and it ran out of space
[10:25] <sixofour> and instead of fixing dolphin they forced me to use the god damn console and now everything is fucked
[10:25] <temporarytao> sixofour, calm down
[10:25] <temporarytao> sixofour, so you're now trying a reinstall?
[10:26] <sixofour> 2 hours ago i knew exactly what i saw doing then i wasted the previous doing things the "easy" way :/
[10:26] <Chousuke> sixofour: mount the drive, remove the files.
[10:26] <sixofour> and it only made everything worse
[10:26] <sixofour> how do i do that?
[10:26] <Chousuke> sixofour: from the livecd, you should be able to use nautilus or something to mount the drive.
[10:27] <sixofour> i don't know how to do any of that
[10:27] <Chousuke> sixofour: are you using the ubuntu livecd?
[10:27] <sixofour> i am now, yes
[10:27] <sixofour> before i wasn't
[10:27] <sixofour> but kubuntu cannot load anymore
[10:27] <sixofour> because the drive is full
[10:27] <Chousuke> sixofour: so, open the file manager
[10:28] <sixofour> ok dolphin is open
[10:28] <Chousuke> dolphin? that's kubuntu isn't it. :/
[10:28] <sixofour> yes
[10:28] <Chousuke> I don't know how it works :(
[10:28] <sixofour> #kubutnu is dead as usual
[10:28] <sixofour> apparently no one knows anything
[10:28] <temporarytao> sixofour, can you navigate to your hd?
[10:28] <sixofour> i don't even know
[10:28] <Chousuke> sixofour: you'll have to open a terminal
[10:29] <sixofour> i have two hard drives
[10:29] <Chousuke> sixofour: because I have no idea how to do anything with dolphin :P
[10:29] <sixofour> yay more terminal work
[10:29] <Chousuke> it's not too difficult
[10:29] <sixofour> i don't want to know either, dolphin is a peice fo crap
[10:29] <dsdeiz> hi how do i move a folder using the terminal?
[10:29] <sixofour> its crashed 5 times an hour ago
[10:29] <Chousuke> dsdeiz: mv folder target/path
[10:30] <sixofour> konsole is open
[10:30] <dsdeiz> it says this  unable to remove target: Is a directory
[10:30] <Chousuke> sixofour: the only problem will be identifying which disk and partition your kubuntu install is on.
[10:30] <Chousuke> dsdeiz: are you using mv? or rm?
[10:30] <sixofour> its on the 8Gb disk
[10:30] <sixofour> the other is 160GB
[10:30] <dsdeiz> mv
[10:30] <alexmac> hm
[10:30] <koshari> sixofour just boot a live disc, mount the drive, delete the archive and your back, i cant beleive this problem is still being discussed.
[10:30] <alexmac> alright im lost
[10:31] <Chousuke> koshari: he does not know how to do that.
[10:31] <alexmac> I've been trying to setup my environment variables for about the past hour
[10:31] <sixofour> i can't delete the archive, i need it
[10:31] <alexmac> How do you permanently set environment variables for all users?
[10:31] <sixofour> koshai i can't believe the problem is still here either
[10:31] <alexmac> I tried editing /etc/environment to include them
[10:31] <Chousuke> sixofour: so what do you intend to delete? you'll have to delete something.
[10:31] <alexmac> and if I do echo $VARIABLE it will print it out
[10:31] <koshari> sixofour well move the archive to the other drive, or a memory stick or whatever,
[10:31] <alexmac> but none of the programs I am trying to run can find them
[10:31] <sixofour> all i had to do was fucking select all and hit delete, but no, everyone wanted to do it through the konsole
[10:31] <alexmac> any ideas?
[10:32] <sixofour> it can't be moved anywhere
[10:32] <sixofour> its 9gb
[10:32] <Chousuke> then you will have to delete it. :P
[10:32] <sixofour> its not the archive thats the problem
[10:32] <Chousuke> or something else.
[10:32] <baz> sixofour, whats up
[10:32] <baz> sixofour, you are very dedicated i must say
[10:32] <sixofour> yeah baz knows wtf is going on, sorta :D
[10:32] <Chousuke> sixofour: anyway, you will need to identify the partition that is full
[10:32] <koshari> sixofour delete the apt cache, of the files you extracted from the archive are not anough.
[10:33] <sixofour> i went into ctrl+alt+f1 and had to restart, when i restarted it said something about "/" is broke or something, i don't know
[10:33] <Chousuke> uh, what.
[10:33] <sixofour> i'm asuming it has to do with the fact that the OS drive has 0 bytes free
[10:33] <alexmac> Can someone please help me with my environment variables?
[10:33] <temporarytao> sixofour, you prolly need to find where the temporary unrared files are stored
[10:33] <temporarytao> go there and delete everything in it
[10:33] <sixofour> i know what i need to do, the problem is doing it
[10:33] <sixofour> how?
[10:34] <sixofour> how do you access kubuntu install when your on a live cd?
[10:34] <Chousuke> sixofour: the partition's name is /dev/sdXN where X is a lowercase letter and N is a number
[10:34] <koshari> sixofour: use a live disc.
[10:34] <Chousuke> koshari: he is using one
[10:34] <Chousuke> koshari: the problem is, he does not know how to mount the drive.
[10:34] <sixofour> everything is in /home/six/ on the install
[10:34] <sixofour> in /home/six/ is about 53000 files
[10:35] <sixofour> if i could use dolphin or another gui, i could simple select all the files and hit the delete button
[10:35] <Chousuke> sixofour: yes, yes. it'll all be pretty easy once we get teh drive mounted.
[10:35] <koshari> sixofour what live disc are you using>?
[10:35] <sixofour> kubuntu 8.10
[10:35] <Chousuke> sixofour: you'll even be able to use dolphin to select and delete stuff :P
[10:35] <sixofour> the one i installed with
[10:36] <sixofour> this whole problem is incredibly dumb lol
[10:36] <Chousuke> nah
[10:36] <Chousuke> it happens.
[10:36] <sixofour> the entier issue is i extracted a rar to tjhe wrong drive and the drive got full
[10:36] <Chousuke> your mistake was that you rebooted.
[10:36] <koshari> well i dunno how to automount in KDE, someone else should, otherwise you may need to mount it manually, you would use partimage to find the dev and then you would need to use terminal to mount the drive
[10:36] <Chousuke> with a full drive.
[10:36] <sixofour> well i hit ctrl alt f1 and couldn't get out
[10:36] <Chousuke> yeah, that was your mistake
[10:37] <sixofour> pyr**** what ever told me to hit that
[10:37] <sixofour> forgot his name
[10:37] <Chousuke> it happens though.
[10:37] <sixofour> he said go there because konsole couldn'topen [no room on drive i guess..lol]
[10:37] <shouge27> idontknow
[10:37] <koshari> dont worry how you got here, concentrate on solving and moving on
[10:38] <sixofour> and to believe last tiem i used kubuntu i rebuild my own kernal :O
[10:38] <sixofour> how did i ever get that accomplishment?
[10:38] <koshari> sixofour why is prolly a better question
[10:38] <sixofour> so i need to find out how to mount /home/six/
[10:38] <sixofour> i needed [and still need] a real time kernal for music production
[10:39] <temporarytao> sixofour, shouldn't that be available in the "places" menu of your install?
[10:39] <koshari> sixofour home/six is just the dir on an unknown (at present) dev. first you want to know what dev(ice)its on
[10:39] <Chousuke> the steps are clear: 1) identify the device file that is full. 2) mkdir -p /mnt/fulldrive/ 3) mount /dev/sdxn /mnt/fulldrive/ 4) cd /mnt/fulldrive/path/to/big/file 5) remove big file 6) hooray
[10:39] <sixofour> funny think, of all 3 partitions, none are full
[10:39] <sixofour> thing*
[10:39] <sixofour> according to dolphin
[10:40] <sixofour> what parting program does kubuntu have?
[10:40] <Chousuke> qparted?
[10:40] <koshari> sixofour dont worry about dolphin, gparted will give you a batter pic of how full the drives are.
[10:40] <sixofour> qparted command not found
[10:40] <Chousuke> hm
[10:40] <Chousuke> try qtparted
[10:41] <sixofour> qt g and q all not found
[10:41] <Chousuke> search the menus for a partitioning program then
[10:41] <false> I have a friend I'm recommending Ubuntu to, too. I'm finding information on the " Intel Integrated Graphics Media Accelerator X3100" via searching google ... anyone know any information on this?
[10:41] <false> I don't want him set up with crappy gfx etc.
[10:41] <sixofour> there arn't any
[10:42] <sixofour> i looked in system, and utilities
[10:42] <bazhang> sure there are
[10:42] <bazhang> !info qtparted
[10:42] <sixofour> livecd, can't install anything
[10:42] <koshari>  false gmax3100 is a nice middle of the road gpu,
[10:42] <bazhang> sure you can
[10:42] <koshari> false dont expect it to set the world on fire with compix ect however
[10:43] <Malacius> hi
[10:43] <koshari> sixofour have you got a gnome live disc?
[10:43] <sixofour> no
[10:43] <false> koshari: I'm not too worried about it, as he doesn't game. I just would hate to see him have to settle for some shitty resolution while booted to Ubuntu.
[10:43] <sixofour> you know what,i'm just going to reinstall linux
[10:43] <sixofour> i installed it 7 hours ago anyways
[10:43] <bazhang> sudo apt-get install qtparted
[10:43] <false> koshari: I'm reading issues, but it's all looking like old info/posts.
[10:44] <koshari> sixofour iam suprised kubuntu dont have a aptitiion utility on it,
[10:44] <Malacius> i want download beryl to ubuntu 8.10
[10:44] <bazhang> Malacius, its not called beryl anymore
[10:44] <oCean_> !beryl | Malacius
[10:44] <koshari> false the 3100 range are a couple of years old, check wikipedia
[10:44] <Malacius> where i can get it?
[10:44] <koshari> Malacius you want compiz fusion
[10:45] <Malacius> yes
[10:45] <bazhang> Malacius, install ccsm
[10:45] <koshari> Malacius and its in the repos
[10:45] <sixofour> so i'll reinstall kubuntu and well see what happens
[10:45] <oCean_> !compiz > Malacius
[10:45] <Malacius> :)
[10:45] <sixofour> be back later
[10:45] <koshari> sixofour that will overwrite your archive
[10:45] <sixofour> no it won't, archive is on a seperate drive
[10:46] <sixofour> seperate peice fo hardware too :D
[10:46] <sixofour> my OS drive got full because the unrar e command didn't extract to the same folder the archive was in
[10:47] <oCean_> sixofour: sure you did not use unrar x ?
[10:47] <sixofour> sudo unrar e /ment/ext3/Outgoing.rar
[10:47] <sixofour> my exact command
[10:47] <sixofour> mnt*
[10:47] <sixofour> not ment
[10:49] <anon> dak: yo
[10:49] <miha> perhaps it's offtopic, but what would you guys recommend to host winxp under ubuntu... qemu or vmware player ?
[10:49] <sixofour> anyways, reinstalling linux, be back later
[10:50] <miha> i tried both in past
[10:50] <jserver> could someone be so kind as to test my servers upstream bandwith
[10:50] <panesar_sandeep> hi evry1, hw to send a process to background in a terminal so u can start another process/command??
[10:50] <panesar_sandeep> jserver, i volunteer, wat wud i hv to do ??
[10:50] <root> Hello Everybody
[10:51] <baz> do any of you choose a filesystem other than ext3
[10:51] <Guest4127> I would like to install chat in Ubuntu please give me advice
[10:51] <panesar_sandeep> how to send a process to background in a terminal so u can start another process/command??
[10:51] <oCean_> panesar_sandeep: well, you could <ctrl><z> it (send SIGSTP) and then "bg <jobnr>"
[10:51] <jserver> I need to be able to send something to you....either dcc, ftp, or amy other way
[10:51] <Malacius> where i can found themes?
[10:52] <jserver> and ill check the transfer rate
[10:52] <oCean_> panesar_sandeep: or you might like "screen" utility.
[10:52] <oCean_> !screen | panesar_sandeep
[10:52] <koshari> Malacius depends on what themes you want, gnome look, emerald svn, ect
[10:52] <oCean_> !themes | Malacius
[10:53] <PerryArmstrong> hey can anyone tell me how i can order for a 32 bit 8.04 server cd.. i just checked the ubuntu for a ship it request and found that they are giving 8.10]
[10:53] <baz> Malacius, gnome-look.org but its more complicated than u think - there are many separate parts to the look of the system
[10:53] <koshari> Guest4127 you can use xchat or pigeon, i think pigion comes default
[10:53] <panesar_sandeep> jsrver, so i wud hv to do it frm connect to server option in the places menu,???
[10:54] <Malacius> :)
[10:54] <koshari> PerryArmstrong i beleive they only shipit vanilla laters version
[10:54] <knutwin> is it possible to resize the system-partition of ubuntu without having an effect on the system behaviour? So that everything remains the same but i have more free disk space for my system?
[10:54] <PerryArmstrong> koshari; wats the vanilla
[10:54] <panesar_sandeep> ocean, thnk u :)
[10:54] <panesar_sandeep> !vanilla
[10:55] <timetrick> hello
[10:55] <koshari> knutwin yes providing you keep enough room for the fires on the current partition
[10:55] <timetrick> is this the right place to ask for some help?
[10:55] <baz> !changetheme
[10:55] <panesar_sandeep> jserver, tell me wat to do and i'll try...
[10:55] <baz> !changethemes
[10:55] <koshari> PerryArmstrong vanilla is plain, ubuntu, not server, alternative, kubunty ect
 how fast is ur download speed?
[10:56] <_Linuxx_> timetirck: yes
[10:56] <panesar_sandeep> jserver, 25-30 kb/s
[10:56] <timetrick> fine
[10:56] <PerryArmstrong> koshari; so no way that i can get the shipit request
[10:56] <koshari> PerryArmstrong server isnt that big if you were to download it
[10:56] <jserver> nm then
[10:56] <koshari> PerryArmstrong i doubt it
[10:56] <oCean_> timetrick: for all your ubuntu related questions: this is the place
[10:56] <PerryArmstrong> koshari; it takes me 3 nights to download
[10:56] <timetrick> my problem is: i recently installed ubuntu on a desktop workstation
[10:56] <timetrick> well that is actually not the problem
[10:56] <jserver> I need someone with at least 300-400 kb/s downstream
[10:57] <koshari> PerryArmstrong library, friend work?
[10:57] <timetrick> the computer successfully connects to my wlan
[10:57] <timetrick> as my laptop does
[10:57] <oCean_> timetrick: try to give full details, but try to keep the description in one single line
[10:57] <timetrick> ok
[10:57] <PerryArmstrong> koshari; didnt get you?
[10:57] <panesar_sandeep> ok den, gud bye to all
[10:58] <LOVELINUX> Hi .. Are there someone in here there knows how to open Wifi-Radar .. when i open it nothing happends.
[10:58] <koshari> PerryArmstrong could you try a friend, or a library to downlaod it, otherwise get the vanilla disk and install the server metapackage.
[10:58] <timetrick> Installed Ubuntu on a PC, i can connect to wlan, but i can neither reach any internet adress nor the router or my laptop / neither ping nor ns-lookup works
[10:58] <ubuntu__> hellp
[10:58] <jserver> anyone here on cable?
[10:58] <koshari> PerryArmstrong but i forgot you wanted 8.04
[10:58] <PerryArmstrong> the speeds at our library is worst than wat i get at home
[10:58] <PerryArmstrong> koshari; yes
[10:59] <PerryArmstrong> koshari; the speeds at our library is worst than wat i get at home
[10:59] <ubuntu__> decided to update to 8.10 after the upgrade for network like everything on my network 10Mg/bits go to the terminal write sudo mii-tool-F 10baseT-FD eth0 gives error "SIOCSMIIREG on eth0 failed: Operation not supported" Well to my surprise later occasion that the network itself opredililas at 10 Mbit but vseravnoo nepashet Undecided. Give what to do?
[10:59] <ubuntu__> Russian
[10:59] <ubuntu__>  
[10:59] <ubuntu__> >
[10:59] <respecting> hi i have apache tomcat running on port 8080 but i failed to kill its process because i can not know his pid(i have made ps -aux,i have used webmin in vain) but i'm sure he is using right now port 8080 is their any way to kill him?
[10:59] <FloodBot2> ubuntu__: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:59] <ubuntu__> English
[10:59] <ubuntu__>  
[10:59] <_Linuxx_> timetrick: do you get an IP from your router?
[10:59] <timetrick> _Linuxx_: yes
[10:59] <bazhang> ubuntu__, you are in #ubuntu-ru already
[10:59] <PerryArmstrong> koshari; and its hardy anyone who gets about 150 kbps
[10:59] <PerryArmstrong> koshari; and its hardly anyone who gets about 150 kbps
[10:59] <koshari> PerryArmstrong there are 3rd party people that ship linux discs
[11:00] <_Linuxx_> timetrick: you cant ping the router? by ip.
[11:00] <timetrick> _Linuxx_, no
[11:00] <PerryArmstrong> koshari; is it free...and do you know the sites??
[11:00] <_Linuxx_> timetrick: do the outputs of iwconfig. and ifconfig look ok?
[11:00] <timetrick> _Linuxx_, yes
[11:01] <LOVELINUX> Hi .. Are there someone in here there knows how to open Wifi-Radar .. when i open it on my computer nothing happends.
[11:01] <oCean_> timetrick: hmmm.. weird! Check your routing table: type "route -n" Is there a line starting 0.0.0.0?
[11:01] <timetrick> oCean_, yes
[11:02] <oCean_> timetrick: that is your default route. 2nd field represents the gateway. Can you ping that address?
[11:02] <timetrick> _Linuxx_, yes, the look exactly like those on my laptop (of coure the mac adress & ip adress differs)
[11:02] <oCean_> timetrick: when all is correctly configured (and working) it should be your router's ip
[11:02] <timetrick> oCean_, no cant ping it, but it is the routers ip
[11:02] <koshari> PerryArmstrong i dont think its free, go to distrowatch
[11:03] <PerryArmstrong> is beryl same as compiz??
[11:04] <bazhang> PerryArmstrong, beryl no longer exists
[11:04] <hallow> hallo juga
[11:04] <oCean_> timetrick: that seems all correct. Hmm. Currently, the interface is up&running?
[11:04] <PerryArmstrong> bazhang; okk..i was just reading the full cirle magazine, 2nd edition
[11:04] <baz> who hosts the servers that provide my software updates - is it canonical or does each program host its own?
[11:04] <timetrick> oCean_, give me a hint on how to check this
[11:05] <oCean_> timetrick: open terminal and run "ifconfig -a"
[11:05] <koshari> baz conocial host ubuntu ones and other places mirror them round the world
[11:05] <Pupeno-G> What FS can I use in a 500GB hard disk that is used to make backups of an Ubuntu box that is also readable by Windows?
[11:05] <koshari> Pupeno-G ntfs
[11:05] <koshari> Pupeno-G or ext2
[11:05] <baz> koshari, i just installed pidgin updates - those come from canonical and/or mirrors?
[11:05] <timetrick> oCean_, well the wlan0 interface appears (as many others...) and its information looks normal
[11:06] <oCean_> timetrick: do you know how to use pastebin service?
[11:06] <koshari> baz depends on your locale
[11:06] <baz> koshari, seattle, WA, US
[11:06] <koshari> baz the files are the same however
[11:06] <timetrick> oCean_, well im sure i will findout
[11:06] <Pupeno-G> koshari: is it reliable to write to an ntfs partition with Ubuntu?
[11:06] <oCean_> timetrick: use paste.ubuntu.com to paste any output
[11:06] <oCean_> timetrick: then give the url here. That's all there is to it :)
[11:06] <koshari> Pupeno-G pretty much these days, ntfs support is very good
[11:06] <baz> koshari, how come everyone is so nice to provide the hosting - especially the mirrors, what do they get out of it
[11:06] <oCean_> timetrick: run "ifconfig -a" and "route -n" and paste the output in pastebin
[11:07] <timetrick> oCean_, give me second then (output is on pc without internet access^^)
[11:07] <aberinkula> anyone good with zenoss ?
[11:07] <oCean_> timetrick: oh yeah, right :/
[11:07] <koshari> baz some hosts such as optus in aust have them for theyre customers
[11:08] <koshari> baz others such as education facilities have them for local users
[11:09] <RiotingPacifist> i did bad things to my filesystem, how can i mount a filesystem in such a way that a user can edit all the files (Even those originally owned by other users)
[11:10] <koshari> RiotingPacifist by changing the permissions, but its prolly not a good idea , better jsut to mount and edit as root i would think
[11:11] <timetrick> oCean_, http://paste.ubuntu.com/129696/
[11:12] <RiotingPacifist> koshari: but even root cant edit 1 file, its owned by sync and isnt even meant to be a file, fsck 'corrected an error' but changed a directory to a file, i can rebuild the dir but not until ive removed the file
[11:12] <oCean_> timetrick: ok. lemme have a look
[11:12] <Speedy059> Any good tutorials on how to install VNC via SSH? I'm familiar with SSH, just not VNC...
[11:12] <Jo> hii
[11:13] <silv3r_m002> hi there
[11:13] <m3gaman> is there a way to   change the screen resolution from the terminal
[11:13] <silv3r_m002> which tool can I use to discover computers in a LAN
[11:13] <silv3r_m002> ?
[11:13] <oCean_> timetrick: ah, on wlan0 there is also an ipv6 address. That might be the problem.
[11:13] <timetrick> oCean_, another question: is there a minimum wlan quality ubuntu can handle with? therefor does the signal strength needs to be higher then, eg, 20?
[11:14]  * ScottG489 is away: Gone away for now
[11:14] <timetrick> oCean_, ok, then lets remove it?
[11:14] <kordoch> I've been trying to find a GDM theme that supports dual monitors, can anyone point me in the right direction? Goes GDM even support this?
[11:14] <oCean_> timetrick: I'm not totally sure that those cannot be use together, but I've blacklisted my ipv6 module. I Think a lot others have too
[11:14] <timetrick> ok
[11:15] <oCean_> timetrick: "cd /etc/modprobe.d" and open (in editor) the file called blacklist. Add (at bottom) "blacklist ipv6"
[11:17] <timetrick> oCean_, done
[11:17] <PerryArmstrong> hey i am using pidgin and i am unable to voice chat... any idea how i can?? i have yahoo and gtalk accounts and i want to voice chat from here
[11:17] <PerryArmstrong> hey i am using pidgin and i am unable to voice chat... any idea how i can?? i have yahoo and gtalk accounts and i want to voice chat from these accounts
[11:17] <Scix> I have a script in /etc/profile.d wish uses mount. It mounts fine, but gnome crasjes and returning a message about not beeing able to start my session and starting a failsafe xterm sesstion insted. Anyone who can help?
[11:17] <majnoon> no think pidgin HAS voice chat
[11:17] <oCean_> timetrick: ok. Well, we could do some test by hand, but I'm not sure.. I think reboot is the best/easiest way to go now
[11:18] <timetrick> oCean_, k
[11:18] <majnoon> PerryArmstrong, try skype
[11:18] <PerryArmstrong> majnoon; does skype allow logging with yahoo and gtalk??
[11:19] <oCean_> PerryArmstrong: no, skype is closed network
[11:19] <PerryArmstrong> oCean_; then any solution to my problem??
[11:19] <majnoon> only versions of google and yahoo i know of that have voice are for WINDOWS only :(
[11:19] <PerryArmstrong> majnoon; okk
[11:20] <majnoon> skype free and has windows version too
[11:20] <oCean_> PerryArmstrong: nope, sorry. You might want to take a dive in the forums...
[11:20] <majnoon> and if pay CAN call land phones too
[11:20] <PerryArmstrong> oCean_; thank you...i guess i'll try there
[11:21] <timetrick> oCean_, ok rebooted, but still cant ping neither google nor my router
[11:22] <oCean_> timetrick: Hmm.. not good. But you did get an ip? And "ifconfig wlan0" output is same? (without the ipv6 address this time?)
[11:22] <sion> y
[11:23] <raymoon> l.nl
[11:23] <sion> You speak Thai
[11:23] <raymoon> ooops Désolé :p
[11:23] <bazhang> sion, #ubuntu-th
[11:23] <sion> ???????
[11:23] <sion> ??????????????????
[11:23] <bazhang> sion, /join #ubuntu-th
[11:24] <timetrick> oCean_, yeah, same as on my laptop
[11:24] <timetrick> oCean_, different ips of course
[11:24] <sion> Gu is Thai
[11:24] <sion> I from Thailand
[11:24] <bazhang> sion, yes; this is not a chat channel
[11:24] <oCean_> timetrick: man, I really don't know.. what can it be?
[11:24] <sion> I from Thailand
[11:24] <sion> I from Thailand
[11:24] <sion> I from Thailand
[11:24] <sion> I from Thailand
[11:24] <FloodBot2> sion: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:25] <bazhang> sion, please join #ubuntu-th and stop chatting here
[11:25] <timetrick> oCean_, yeah, same question here
[11:25] <timetrick> oCean_, maybe because the wlan signal is weak?
[11:25] <timetrick> <20%
[11:26] <oCean_> timetrick: hmm, yeah. That's not *really* good, but I would think it would disconnect
[11:26] <sion> I is GM
[11:26] <bazhang> sion, please stop
[11:26] <sion> NO
[11:27] <Scooma> timetrick, i have trouble getting a signal with strength less than 34%
[11:27] <timetrick> oCean_, hm i did nothing to the drivers as ubuntu made the stick run out of the box, maybe i shoud try ndiswrapper?
[11:27] <timetrick> Scooma, in what do your problems result?
[11:28] <Scooma> timetrick, no i don't have any probs ;)
[11:28] <timetrick> Scooma, that it should work here as well, shouldnt it?
[11:29] <oCean_> timetrick: run command "dmesg" > in output you should see the wlan0 associating with the AP... maybe also a disconnect?
[11:30] <timetrick> oCean_, no disconnect
[11:31] <timetrick> oCean_, but wlan0 registers with AP....
[11:31] <ubuntu__> привет
[11:32] <timetrick> so should i try using ndiswrapper instead of normal driver then?
[11:32] <MonsieurY1> je recherche un site pour me monter un pc low cost (350)  media center, qui pourrait regrouper les cartes tuner, telecomande, compatible ubuntu..si vous avez un site intéressant...
[11:32] <oCean_> timetrick: I'm getting out of ideas here. Trying another driver might be best next option, but I'm just not sure
[11:32] <oCean_> !fr | MonsieurY1
[11:33] <timetrick> so i will try this now
[11:33] <timetrick> hm
[11:34] <oCean_> timetrick: ok. This is a good starting point for wifi documentation, including ndiswrapper: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:34] <ubuntu__> привет
[11:34] <timetrick> oCean_, thanks, but i will prefer ubuntuusers.de as the articles are written in german ;)
[11:34] <oCean_> timetrick: have to go... might be back later.
[11:35] <LurkersA> ubuntu__, #ubuntu-ru
[11:35] <oCean_> timetrick: :)
[11:35] <oCean_> !ru | ubuntu__
[11:35] <bazhang> ubuntu__, english only here; you are already in #ubuntu-ru
[11:35] <Scooma> timetrick, is there any security on your router? MAC restrictions?
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[11:36] <timetrick> Scooma, no just the wpa2
[11:36] <Scooma> timetrick, are you able to switch off the security for the moment and try connecting without it?
[11:37] <timetrick> Scooma, i tried that already, still no changes
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> timetrick: some wifi chips under linux dont do wpa
[11:37] <Scooma> timetrick, because this line: RX packets:95 TX packets:226  implies that you're being blocked at the router
[11:39] <timetrick> Scooma, ActionParsnip ok but i tried without security already, did not work either
[11:40] <zxd> is there an ubuntu package for firefox to add color tabs?
[11:40] <timetrick> Scooma, ActionParsnip ill try again, brb
[11:40] <Scooma> timetrick, also, is the 192.168.0.3 address static or dhcp from the router?
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> timetrick: can you establish a connection or do you just get no traffic / no ip?
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> Scooma: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1368
[11:41] <Scooma> ActionParsnip, heh
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> timetrick: if you get a link can you ping the router, can you perform nslookup
[11:41] <Scooma> zxd, try that link
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> timetrick: can you ping 38.99.130.180
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> Scooma: sorry dude, wrong target
[11:42] <zxd> Scooma, how can I install this plugin for all users
[11:42] <zxd> globally
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> zxd: hmm
[11:42] <Scooma> zxd you might want to ask in #firefox
[11:43] <Scooma> zxd, or some addons channel for firefox
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> zxd: #firefox would be est imho
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> *best
[11:44] <deepz> #firefox
[11:44] <daftykins> anyone had xchat chop off a few vertical pixel lines of characters from the last letter of people's sentences?
[11:45] <Guest4127> How to make chat in Ubuntu please give me advice
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> Guest4127: you just did it
[11:46] <Scooma> daftykins, you mean from various characters or just the end of what they write? (and do you mean on the far right or at the end of the entire sentence?)
[11:47] <zxd> ActionParsnip, http://kb.mozillazine.org/Installing_extensions
[11:47] <daftykins> hmm it's just at the end of people's sentences i see it, it can be letters or punctuation symbols
[11:47] <daftykins> ^ @ Scooma
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> zxd: nice :)
[11:47] <MrNaz> is there a tool that tells you how much bandwidth your computer is using, and what apps are doing it ?
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> daftykins: you could try renaming your xchat config folder and rerunning xchat to get a stock profile, see if its nicer
[11:48] <wers> in what file can i change uid's (user IDs)? i did something terrible. i changed my root user's uid
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> !info ntop
[11:48] <daftykins> all i've done from default is set the "Sans" font ActionParsnip
[11:48] <deepz> anyone help pls "I notice that the crash doesn't happen when firefox is started from the command line. It crashes only when Firefox is started from the Ubuntu GUI menu. Does this have something to do with the plugin initialization?
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> daftykins: and add a server or too to the config? it may be a damaged profile, if you gain nothing you can always rename backk
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> daftykins: i always include a rollback method
[11:49] <daftykins> ;) yeah i've solved other problems people have had by suggesting the same in here
[11:49] <daftykins> i figure that's a lot to go to for just a few pixels though :D
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> daftykins: if the stock profile is good you can ither roll back and troubleshoot, or delete the old and recreate a new profile
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> daftykins: well thats your call, make your move ;)
[11:50] <daftykins> hehe
[11:50] <daftykins> i choose.... to eat lunch :D
[11:51] <Scooma> daftykins, did it happen before you changed the font?
[11:51] <maydaymayday> How to make boot menu among windows&Ubuntu
[11:51] <daftykins> i can't remember to be honest, i just remember monospace not being so easy on the eye at all!
[11:52] <keith4> is there a localized version of packages.ubuntu.com?
[11:52] <maydaymayday> i want to install ubuntu but don't want to format windows
[11:52] <maydaymayday> ???
[11:52] <Scooma> keith you can select your package list from the software sources
[11:53] <Scooma> keith4, System -> Administration -> Software Sources
[11:53] <wers> in what file are user ids located? i did something terrible. i ran "usermod -u 0 root". now everything's messed up
[11:53] <KeithGS> o.o
[11:53] <KeithGS> someone beap me?
[11:53] <KeithGS> beep *
[11:53] <keith4> Scooma: how does that help me?
[11:53] <lesshaste> irefox wont start any more
[11:53] <BABER> hi
[11:53] <lesshaste> firefox
[11:54] <Scooma> keith4, you asked for a localized version of packages.ubuntu.com?
[11:54] <lesshaste> is there some lock file that might beed remving or similar?
[11:54] <BABER> how can mount ntfs partition in ubuntu?
[11:54] <jared> guys. how can i change bootsplash ??
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> wers: what does that command do, why were you even messing with your root account?
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> !ntfs-3g | BABER
[11:54] <keith4> Scooma: yah. I'm trying to help someone who (it seems) doesn't speak English. So, I'd like to send him to a package search in his native language
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> !splash | jared
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> !usplash
[11:54] <wers> ActionParsnip: i'm copying the uid of the root of os x. the command changed my root's UID to "0"
[11:55] <Jockeo> I run Gutsy Gibbon but the EasyCam software is in a Hardy Heron repository. Is it safe for me to add the Hardy repository and install EasyCam?
[11:55] <jared> nice
[11:55] <lesshaste> firefox
[11:55] <Scooma> keith4, ah
[11:55] <jared> but its not the BootSplash
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> Jockeo: the packages i the hardy repo are for hardy only
[11:55] <guntur> haloo
[11:55] <lesshaste> firefox wont start any more.. when I run it from the command line it does nothing except not return the prompt
[11:55] <jared> ah wait
[11:55] <Jockeo> ActionParsnip: ok.
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> jared: http://www.jaininaveen.com/?page_id=113
[11:56] <Scooma> lesshaste,  yeah I had that problem a while ago - you might need a new profile
[11:56] <lesshaste> Scooma, I just fixed it!  I had to remove /tmp/.esd-1000/socket
[11:56] <lesshaste> how annoying
[11:56] <daftykins> hit alt+f2, then type "firefox -profilemanager" and try and create a new one. see if that fixes your firefox issues
[11:58] <Guest72051> does anyone know, if there is a new design in Jaunty?
[11:59] <Scooma> Guest72051, you mean the background or something?
[11:59] <Guest72051> yes
[11:59] <daftykins> login screen is new
[11:59] <jared> noooooo
[11:59] <jared> its removing everything
[11:59] <Scooma> Guest72051, i installed the alpha yesterday... nothing new at the moment... i didn't see anything new
[12:00] <Guest72051> but now the login screen doesn´t fit to the rest of ubuntu
[12:00] <Scooma> Guest72051, oh yes, I did need to reduce my fonts from 10 pitch down to 8 pitch
[12:00] <JediMaster> anyone managed to get pureftpd working with mysql authentication? I've got an ISPConfig 3 install on intrepid, and for some reason I can't ftp in (I can see the pureftp config file has been setup to use the correct user/pass for the mysql database that contains the user)
[12:00] <Guest72051> so i think they have to change their color scheme
[12:01] <lesshaste> Scooma, seems this is a known and non fixed ubuntu bug :(
[12:02] <jared> i would need libsplashy for x64
[12:02] <wers> how do i change the uid of root on the live cd? i'm on live cd now. i changed my root's uid to "0". now, everything is broken including HAL
[12:02] <jatt> is there a command line program to get the IP address of my computer, just 1 program and not ifconfig | awk | grep | sed | etc. | etc.?
[12:02] <ikonia> wers: youre done then
[12:02] <ikonia> wers: root's uid has to be 0
[12:03] <Scooma> lesshaste, does it happen alot to you? or just every now and again when the process dies?
[12:03] <wers> ikonia: i'm sorry. i meant, i changed it to "80"
[12:03] <lesshaste> Scooma, it happens a lot when firefox dies
[12:03] <lesshaste> Scooma, which happens a lot :)
[12:03] <ikonia> wers: your still done then - root's uid has to be 0
[12:03] <Scooma> lesshaste, and you've got the latest package?
[12:04] <lesshaste> Scooma, yes...although I am in hardy not intrepid
[12:04] <keith4> wers: you're using the liveCD? just reboot, it'll be fixed
[12:04] <ikonia> jatt: ifconfig eth0 would give you just the info for eth0
[12:04] <Scooma> lesshaste, from the bug doc does it say it's fixed for intrepid?
[12:05] <lesshaste> Scooma, I don't see anything really saying it's fixed
[12:05] <lesshaste> Scooma, I just googled /tmp/.esd-1000/socket
[12:05] <lesshaste> Scooma, various unhappy ubuntu people come up if you do that
[12:07] <Scooma> lesshaste, seems to be tied in with flash and sound
[12:07] <lesshaste> Scooma, seems plausible
[12:08] <Scooma> lesshaste,  http://uniquegeek.blogspot.com/2007/03/sometimes-no-audio-in-firefox-pages.html
[12:08] <wers> ikonia: thanks. i'll try rebooting
[12:09] <BobSapp> does anyone know of an application based virtual network client?
[12:09] <BobSapp> it basically sets up a tunnel using a website as the negotiator
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> BobSapp: tunnelling of what kind?
[12:11] <BobSapp> of a network connection, sort of like a ssh tunnel
[12:11] <BobSapp> so tcp network traffic
[12:11] <BobSapp> maybe udp too
[12:11] <remoteCTRL> amarok comes with tons of prestored radio stations but most of them give me a "no suitable decoder found" error, how can i fis this?
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> BobSapp: do you mean like a http based VNC connection so users do not need to install client software
[12:11] <Scooma> lesshaste, as it gets nuked whenever you reboot, try it for a while
[12:12] <BobSapp> ActionParsnip: not like that, aparently theres an application that automatically sets up a VPN
[12:12] <BobSapp> so you run the client on internet connected computers, and the client contacts a web service on the internet
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> BobSapp: i dont know about automatically creating one, i can give you a guide on creating a vpn though
[12:13] <BobSapp> hmmmmm
[12:13] <BobSapp> no thanks ActionParsnip, ill keep googling
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> BobSapp: try www.ask.com too
[12:14] <BobSapp> thnks
[12:16] <meganox> under Hardy, my gnome session freezes on login unless i select the failsafe mode.  is there a safe way to reset my session to the default?
[12:16] <Techpusher> hi
[12:16] <Techpusher> Got a probelm
[12:16] <Techpusher> ~# dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem
[12:16] <Techpusher> How do I correct
[12:16] <SlimeyPete> Techpusher: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[12:16] <SlimeyPete> like it says :)
[12:16] <schur> hello
[12:17] <runpain2> I am having problems play‌ing like flash in like my browsers  firefox seems to play some but not all and it like frezzes while it play Them,Konquaor like doesnt even show the big arrow like fire fox does when i lick the arrow in fire fox it plays sthe flash
[12:17] <meganox> Techpusher: if it fails the error message might tell you what to do next
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> runpain2: is your ubuntu 64bit or 32bit?
[12:17] <runpain2> i get no error messages either
[12:17] <runpain2> 32
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> runpain2: could get the tar.gz from www.adobe.com  and put the .so file in ~/.mozilla/plugins
[12:18] <runpain2> i will check it out
[12:18] <dze1> does anyone know how to read the information output from bonnie++
[12:19] <dze1> from a sdmmc card i get write speed as 1415KBytes/Sec, when i do dd i get 8MBPS
[12:19] <dze1> so i want your advice and help, im trying to do some benchmarking
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> dze1: i'd ask in #ubuntu-offtopic it's not strictly an ubuntu support query
[12:24] <Techpusher> http://www.innovaweb.co.uk/presstog/image_funcs_check.php
[12:24] <Techpusher> Having trouble getting some gd functions to work
[12:25] <kiki_cwo> kkk
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> Techpusher: i'd ask in #php
[12:25] <kiki_cwo> huy
[12:26] <ArcSighter> ikonia: hi, you left me hanging yesterday
[12:27] <runpain2> there is no folder plugins
[12:27] <runpain2> ActionParsnip,
[12:27] <ttmrichter> When it's impossible to umount a device because it is busy, is it possible to find out which process has it locked down?
[12:27] <deepz> anyone help pls "I notice that the crash doesn't happen when firefox is started from the command line. It crashes only when Firefox is started from the Ubuntu GUI menu. Does this have something to do with the plugin initialization?
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> runpain2: ?
[12:27] <keith4> ttmrichter: lsof
[12:28] <ttmrichter> keith4: lsof is saying that the mount point is not in use.
[12:28] <runpain2> you said put the .so in the folder for mozzila
[12:28] <keith4> ttmrichter: not possible. lsof only shows you things that are open. it cannot show you what is *not* open
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> runpain2: mkdir ~/.mozilla/plugins
[12:29] <ActionParsnip> runpain2: then cp the .so file to the new folder
[12:29] <ttmrichter> keith4: so if it's not listed in lsof, the logical inference is....?
[12:29] <runpain2> oh ok
[12:29] <vieq> hello, I am trying to run Virtual-Machine-Manager
[12:29] <keith4> ttmrichter: that you screwed up the device in question? ;-)
[12:30] <vieq> it complained that I am not running xen while I havr it
[12:30] <lfaraone> Hi, my browser crashes whenver I try to view java applets. I have icedtea6-java and an AMD64 arch installed. Any ideas why?
[12:30] <vieq> any Ideas?
[12:30] <ttmrichter> How does one go about unscrewing up the device short of rebooting (which is not really an option for several hours:()
[12:30] <keith4> ttmrichter: or that you made a typo in your grep syntax. i dunno. never was any good at reading minds ;-)
[12:30] <runpain2> mkdir: cannot create directory `/home/runpain2/.mozzilla/plugins': No such file or directory
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> lfaraone: sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get --reinstall install icedtea6-plugin
[12:31] <futuh> Hello.. i have a problem :D i tried to start ubuntu with Optoma Hd70 projector and now it wont start even "low graphics"-mode.. i think its from resolution, what can i do? i can only go in command line
[12:31] <keith4> ttmrichter: if you're absolutely certain that nothing is open, you could force it
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> runpain2: mozilla
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> runpain2: not mozzilla
[12:32] <runpain2> gotcha
[12:32] <lfaraone> ActionParsnip: will do
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> runpain2: you can copy / paste to the terminal, thats why i gave the full command
[12:32] <runpain2> sorry i see now
[12:32] <macvr> hi all... i usually use suspend , some times it works fine but sometimes i see that several programs run in multiples, like i have 3 instances of the wireless running.... now when i press suspend and resumes it goes in 3 cycles of resume and suspend before i can use the system again...! i know that restarting solves the problem , is there anyway to do it just by logging out and logging bak in?
[12:32] <ttmrichter> keith4: I'm not that 100% certain.  I've noticed that bash in particular likes to leave pieces of itself hanging around at times after you've typed "exit".  I'm just trying to figure out why the kernel says the device is busy when nothing else will tell me what's making it busy.  I mean the kernel obviously KNOWS something, but won't share it with me.  :D
[12:32] <runpain2> kinda slow this morn
[12:32] <vieq> xen, any one?
[12:33] <ActionParsnip> !xen
[12:33] <keith4> ttmrichter: that bastard!
[12:33] <keith4> beat it out of him
[12:34] <ttmrichter> keith4: I do occasionally get the urge to reprogram it with a baseball bat.  Does that count?
[12:34] <keith4> now you're on the right track
[12:34] <futuh> can someone help me pls?
[12:34] <lfaraone> !helpme > futuh
[12:34] <ttmrichter> I'll just leave the drive plugged in until I can safely shut down.  Damned half-day builds.  :(
[12:34] <vieq> ok whats the difference between ubuntu-xen-desktop & ubuntu-xen-server ?
[12:35] <futuh> mmm how i can do that with irssi in terminal? :D
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> !ask | futuh
[12:36] <futuh> !ask
[12:39] <JEEBcz> hmm... anyone remembers what patch/feature must be activated when building a kernel to get the two-finger scroll etc. to work, like on the array.org kernel? I checked out the customization page on array.org, but it seems like I have every feature on :/
[12:39]  * MauricioR KalEl hello
[12:42] <yuri_> hello
[12:42] <yuri_> any help about wine ?
[12:42] <madAdam2> Do I need to install anything so I can access the terminal using putty on a pc running windows?
[12:42] <yuri_> <--- dunno
[12:42] <daftykins> "sudo apt-get install openssh-server"
[12:42] <runpain2> ActionParsnip, all the flash still has an arrow that i click on to play flash then it just goes blank at the arrow when i click on it like in youtube
[12:43] <daftykins> ^ @ madAdam2
[12:43] <madAdam2> Thanks daftykins
[12:43] <daftykins> np!
[12:43] <yuri_> hey wine plz :D
[12:43] <runpain2> sorry youtube plays
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> runpain2: ok try: killall firefox; sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get --reinstall install flashplugin-nonfree
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> runpain2: oh if it plays then cool
[12:44] <quibbler> yuri_: questions about wine can best be asked in #winehq
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> runpain2: youtube == flash so you now have flash
[12:44] <madAdam2> How come that SSH server doesn't show up in add/remove?
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> madAdam2: no idea, use: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[12:44] <runpain2> wait some other web sites dont
[12:45] <Damir> Can someone help me, to create a little database and graph with rrdtool? I have some problems...
[12:45] <madAdam2> It's installing already, I was just wondering why! :P I usually just use that to find my programs
[12:45] <Damir> I don't get MAX,MIN and AVG results in the graph
[12:45] <madAdam2> What port do I need to use to connect to it? Port 22?
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> madAdam2: submit a bug or try search different... seems weird
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> madAdam2: yep, port 22 is default. it can be changed
[12:46] <lfaraone> ActionParsnip: odd, it still crashes.
[12:47] <daftykins> madAdam2, port 22 is default for SSH connections in putty
[12:47] <runpain2> http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/current/install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz  => `./install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz' Resolving fpdownload.macromedia.com... 72.246.90.70 Connecting to fpdownload.macromedia.com|72.246.90.70|:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found 07:46:16 ERROR 404: Not Found
[12:47] <madAdam2> Awesome
[12:47] <madAdam2> I'm on
[12:47] <madAdam2> Thanks :)
[12:48] <macman> anyone here ever use bindfs ?
[12:48] <spionlala> how can i change the apt-get autoremove behaviour? it always wants to remove some programs i still need only because those programs arent needed by any other packages...
[12:49] <madAdam2> It can't be accessed from the outside can it? Unless I forward ports...?
[12:49] <daftykins> port forwarding is indeed required madAdam2
[12:49] <daftykins> * -> 22
[12:50] <madAdam2> Yeah I was just checking :P
[12:50] <madAdam2> Now I need something like a VNC ;D
[12:50] <daftykins> System -> Preferences -> Remote Desktop
[12:50] <daftykins> turn VNC on/off
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> madAdam2: if you do use vnc, use it through an ssh tunnel for security
[12:51] <madAdam2> Sorry what? xD
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> madAdam2: vnc traffic is unencrypted
[12:51] <madAdam2> I'm new to linux
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> madAdam2: it runs on windows too
[12:52] <madAdam2> Yeah I use RealVNC for my windows PC's
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> madAdam2: vnc data is sent plainly so if you are using it over WAN its hugely unsecure
[12:52] <eddie1> helo almal
[12:52] <madAdam2> What do you mean by through an SSH tunnel?
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> madAdam2: you can add security by using ssh
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> madAdam2: you connect to your server with ssh then tell the vnc traffic to use the same link
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> !vnc
[12:53] <marcel1607> hi
[12:53] <gohu3> Hi
[12:53] <ActionParsnip> !hi
[12:53] <marcel1607> i found that kde 4.2.1 is really unstable, crashing a lot especially plasma
[12:53] <marcel1607> anyone has a different view on this?
[12:54] <marcel1607> or is kde just unstable
[12:54] <DIFH-iceroot> marcel1607: #kubuntu #kde
[12:54] <marcel1607> pffff
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> marcel1607: not used it unless its going to come down when my apt-cron runs
[12:54] <marcel1607> i cant ask anything about kde?
[12:54] <DIFH-iceroot> marcel1607: this is ubuntu (gnome)
[12:54] <marcel1607> what bs
[12:54] <marcel1607> kde is in ubuntu packages
[12:54] <eddie1> helo almal
[12:54] <marcel1607> why cant i ask about it
[12:54] <marcel1607> kubuntu is a distro, not kde
[12:55] <DIFH-iceroot> marcel1607: you get a better response in kubuntu
[12:55] <Myrtti> marcel1607: #kubuntu
[12:55] <piyushchandra> ActionParsnip : hey, how r u..? i tried the boot options that you told me yesterday.. noacpi, nodma, etc.. but no use...
[12:55] <piyushchandra> ActionParsnip : the LiveCD is working partially till it halts on Linux Shell.. "BusyBox"
[12:55] <piyushchandra> ActionParsnip : even unable to "check cd for defect".. same error...
[12:55] <Damir> Can someone help me with rrdtool?
[12:55] <ActionParsnip> piyushchandra: did you md5 check your iso too?
[12:55] <madAdam2> ActionParsnip can I PM you?
[12:55] <ActionParsnip> madAdam2: sure
[12:56] <vigo> madAdam2: And you can also pipeline or tunnel it, still use ssh , vnc is like that hokey GoToMyPC deal, it is basic UNIX telnet with a shared or eye pleasing GUI.
[12:56] <daftykins> does gotomypc really use telnet?
[12:56] <bn43> hi all I have a problem with an hp laser printer 1120 - its prints half a page and/or sometimes misses words on a page when printing
[12:56] <daftykins> or you're just saying it's as basic as that vigo ?
[12:56] <bn43> on windows its fine and behaves normally
[12:57] <marcel1607> this is ubuntu, not windows
[12:57] <Damir> Where I can find rrdtool help?
[12:57] <corey> How much bandwidth does it take to stream videos over the net? lets say standard vga resolution
[12:57] <vigo> daftykins: not really, but is close if not configured
[12:57] <marcel1607> corey, enough
[12:57] <piyushchandra> ActionParsnip : its CD shipped by ubuntu, and works fine on my friends comp... anyways how to check md5 for iso, if i have the  CD (i dont have image)
[12:57] <daftykins> VGA = 640x480, that's not very likely a resolution to use
[12:57] <Myrtti> marcel1607: if you haven't got anything helpful to say, please, be quiet?
[12:58] <lfaraone> ActionParsnip: what should I do next in terms of debugging?
[12:58] <DIFH-iceroot> corey: think of that there is no multicast at the internet, so every viewer takes a bandwidth
[12:58] <corey> Myrtti: thank you
[12:58] <marcel1607> Myrtti, no
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> lfaraone: run firefox from terminal (without the &) and wait for it to crash, then read the terminal
[12:58] <Pici> corey: Your question isn't really on topic for this channel, perhaps someone in #ubuntu-offtopic or ##networking can answer.
[12:58] <corey> difh-iceroot: I dont want any other viewers than myself
[12:59] <Incarus> lfaraone, whats the problem?
[12:59] <bn43> marcel1607: you comment was not helpful - I agree with Myrtti
[12:59] <lfaraone> ActionParsnip: kk
[12:59] <Incarus> corey, do you want to watch movies remote?
[12:59]  * marcel1607 crying
[12:59] <corey> Pici: This question leads into others that do deal with ubuntu such as how do i do it
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> piyushchandra: if its an ubuntu shippit cd it should be ok, checking the cd for defects is essential though. You could try heading into your bios to disable stuff like power management and sound cards and network cards, just until you get installed
[12:59] <corey> Incarus: yes
[12:59] <lfaraone> Incarus: I'm having issues with icedtea6-plugin on my amd64 lappy when it works fine on my amd64 desktop.
[12:59] <DIFH-iceroot> corey: i was using darwin streaming server at it takes 400kb/s with sound in a good resolution
[12:59] <bn43> marcel1607: sarcasm is also not warranted
[13:00] <marcel1607> you should use icetea on amd64, it doesnt work, either get sun java 6 build 12 or get the jaunty package for sun-java6
[13:00] <marcel1607> i mean should N O T use, sorry
[13:00] <corey> DIFH-iceroot: I dont want a dedicated server. I want a media center that will stream and DL my torrents
[13:01] <marcel1607> corey, vuze downloads and is a media server
[13:01] <Incarus> lfaraone, did you try x86 AND x64?
[13:01] <futuh> can someone help me set up optoma hd70 with ubuntu? :)
[13:01] <marcel1607> what is optoma?
[13:01] <futuh> Video projector
[13:01] <DIFH-iceroot> corey: then use vlc-nox for example with mythtv or something like that
[13:01] <corey> marcell607: thanks! I will try that.
[13:01] <marcel1607> futuh, hardware?
[13:01] <bn43> has anyone had problems printing via HP printers on ubuntu?
[13:02] <DIFH-iceroot> bn43: no
[13:02] <corey> How do I set up a JBOD array?
[13:02] <futuh> marcell607 yeah..
[13:02] <Myrtti> bn43: in general, most hp printers should work with hplip
[13:02] <marcel1607> corey, get vuze from the website, the current package has bugs in ubuntu
[13:02] <beli> hi, is it possible to start an Xapp from remote and display it local AND remote? so it can be interacted with the applications on the local AND the remote box?
[13:03] <bn43> Myrtti: yes that is my experience too but this one is really giving me problems and the user has to keep on going into windows to print properly
[13:03] <corey> How do I set up a JBOD array?
[13:03] <daftykins> corey, RAID controllers generally just need you to go into the controller BIOS, set the disks as non-RAID then they'll become available
[13:03] <jrib> beli: system -> preferences -> remote desktop?
[13:03] <bn43> which implies to me that there something wrong on the ubuntu setup
[13:03] <BZH> does any body has ubuntu with cable internet ??
[13:03] <marcel1607> bn43, choose a different driver for your printer, ppds are downloadable from linuxprinting.org, go to localhost:631 to manage printers
[13:04] <Damir> I need help for rrdtool
[13:04] <spionlala> how can i change the apt-get autoremove behaviour? it always wants to remove some programs i still need only because those programs arent needed by any other packages...
[13:04] <DIFH-iceroot> BZH: yes
[13:04] <beli> jrib: i am a console guy....and thats not what i want...i want to start the xapp on BOTH sides
[13:04] <bn43> marcel1607: thanks I will try that
[13:04] <corey> In JBOD if a disk fails do you lose all data?
[13:04] <daftykins> spionlala, is it not just an option to avoid running autoremove?
[13:04] <Myrtti> Damir: you're not asking a very specific question, which might be the reason why you're not getting any answers
[13:04] <jrib> spionlala: well that's what autoremove means...  Install the packages explicitly
[13:04] <beli> s/start/show up/
[13:04] <Incarus> spionlala, jaunty or intrepid?
[13:04] <m3gaman> ls
[13:04] <spionlala> intrepid
[13:05] <Damir> Ok I have no MAX, AVG and MIN values in the database
[13:05] <corey> In JBOD if a disk fails do you lose all data?
[13:05] <spionlala> jrib: so they wont get autoremoved if i install those packages again explicitly?
[13:05] <Incarus> spionlala, and kde4, or?
[13:05] <lesshaste> Scooma, sorry I popped out
[13:05] <daftykins> yes corey
[13:05] <lfaraone> Incarus: hm? the x86 package won't install...
[13:05] <lesshaste> Scooma, did I miss something?
[13:05] <spionlala> no not kde4
[13:05] <spionlala> incarus
[13:05] <Damir> But I put data in the database
[13:05] <Damir> every 60 seconds
[13:05] <MauricioR> hi, i have a friend who has windows vista and only thing out of what he showed i could not do was that he could shut up any application he chose with the mixer
[13:05] <jrib> beli: that's the only way I know.  You can run whatever it is that remote desktop is in a shell if you want
[13:05] <daftykins> corey JBOD = just a bunch of disks, there is nothing RAID working at all, a disc is just used directly via the controller
[13:05] <Incarus> spionlala, k
[13:05] <jrib> spionlala: yes
[13:05] <Damir> I can output TOTAL but nothing else
[13:05] <MauricioR> can i do the same with ubuntu also
[13:05] <BZH> DIFH-iceroot are connected via usb or LAN
[13:05] <spionlala> jrib: trying
[13:05] <Incarus> lfaraone, do you use firefox?
[13:05] <lfaraone> MauricioR: pulseaudio can do that.
[13:05] <lfaraone> Incarus: Yes.
[13:06] <Damir> Maybe the rrd database is not correct
[13:06] <beli> jrib: i am familiar with that...but i want the app be seen on local and remote machine...
[13:06] <jrib> beli: isn't that what remote desktop does?
[13:06] <Incarus> lfaraone, can you paste firefox output?
[13:06] <spionlala> jrib: umm do i have to uninstall them before i reinstall again?
[13:06] <lfaraone> Incarus: will do, it'll take a moment.
[13:06] <corey> I am trying to further shrink my Vista partition but, GParted doesnt give any options when I click the partition. Any help?
[13:06] <jrib> spionlala: no, I don't think so
[13:06] <beli> jrib: yes, but not via X and ssh+X11 fwd...its using vnc
[13:06] <lfaraone> beli: you want to use remote desktop.
[13:07] <jrib> beli: right
[13:07] <Incarus> lfaraone, k
[13:07] <Myrtti> !enter | Damir
[13:07] <lfaraone> beli: you *can't* do what you want with X+ssh.
[13:07] <spionlala> jrib: ok, it didnt work, still wants to remove paman, paprefs, etc....
[13:07] <daftykins> corey, windows vista is capable of NTFS resizing in the "disk management" console. boot into vista and run "diskmgmt.msc" and look about resizing. remember to defragment first
[13:07] <beli> lfaraone: i am not sure about that...
[13:07] <Damir> Ok sorry, here is my database: http://paste-it.net/public/vca4a59/
[13:07] <BZH> !internet
[13:07] <BZH> !enternet
[13:08] <BZH> !cable
[13:08] <Slart> BZH: what are you looking for?
[13:08] <corey> daftykins: I am fairly certain you cant repartition a partition while it is in use.
[13:08] <benmachine> hi, can anyone tell me if apt-get/aptitude can be made to use an HTTP proxy?
[13:08] <lfaraone> beli: ok, but you're asking us. We answered; anything else and you'll just have to google or write it yourself ;)
[13:08] <BZH> how to connect to internet with cable internet Slart
[13:08] <jrib> spionlala: pastebin
[13:08] <Damir> I will put data every minute (with a shell script) like this: rrdtool update stats.rrd N:123:432
[13:08] <Slart> BZH: and what do you mean by "cable internet" ?
[13:08] <daftykins> corey, i think vista has features to resize during reboot or something similar, just go and check
[13:08] <beli> lfaraone: you can do amazing stuff with X....i guess it is possible just  by setting some DO
[13:08] <beli> lfaraone: DISPLAY vars and using Xtools...
[13:09] <Incarus> BZH, try "sudo dhclient3"
[13:09] <BZH> Slart dunno its not adsl its cable :)
[13:09] <Slart> BZH: you have a little box connected to something that is not a phone line, right?
[13:09] <beli> lfaraone: you can also run 2 or more X-servers on your machine....most ppl dont know about that...
[13:09] <vigo> Where is the info bot channel?
[13:09] <Raj_> Is there anyplace, I can see my computer's performance???like task manager ???
[13:09] <corey> daftykins: It does not.
[13:09] <BZH> right Slart do i need drivers and s****
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> Raj_: top
[13:09] <Slart> BZH: and from this box you have a regular network cable to your computer?
[13:09] <BZH> Slart cuz i am use to pppoeconf :P
[13:09] <daftykins> just let ubuntu setup take care of the resize then corey
[13:09] <spionlala> jrib: wait, now it worked, took some time obvioulsy, thx :)
[13:10] <daftykins> or defrag like i said
[13:10] <BZH> yes Slart
[13:10] <corey> Raj_: Yes, system>admin>system monitor
[13:10] <zerlor> hello
[13:10] <Slart> BZH: have you used this setup with windows?
[13:10] <Raj_> Thanks buddy
[13:10] <corey> daftykins: I am already in ubuntu. I do not want to reinstall.
[13:10] <Damir> Myrtti: Can You help me?
[13:11] <BZH> Slart no i just switched to cable and i dont know how to connect
[13:11] <BZH> Slart it was easy wiht pppoe :P
[13:11] <Raj_> Is binary files can change system's settings???
[13:11] <Slart> BZH: do you know if you have to go to a certain webpage to type in a password or something like that=
[13:11] <Raj_> Are*
[13:12] <daftykins> BZH if you have a cable modem, with a second network interface plugged into it, you should be able to just enable DHCP on that interface and you'll get an IP and settings to connect
[13:12] <jrib> Raj_: what?
[13:12] <vigo> BZH: You are using DHCP now, it is static.
[13:12] <Incarus> Raj_, in super user mode executable files can change system settings
[13:12] <zerlor> can i install gnome and kde on the same machine and then choose the one i will use for the session?
[13:12] <Slart> zerlor: yes
[13:12] <vigo> Yeah, what daftykins said
[13:12] <Raj_> ok
[13:12] <BZH> hmm vigo , Slart daftykins i will try every thing you told me :D now i will go home and try to connect :P
[13:13] <Damir> I don't know why rrdtool doesn't store the AVERAGE values
[13:13] <Myrtti> Damir: I'm trying to help you to ask the correct questions, I can't help you with your problem though
[13:13] <zerlor> can i just install it and the dispaly manager will give me the choice?
[13:14] <Slart> zerlor: at the login screen there usually is a "sessions" button
[13:14] <Slart> zerlor: it depends a bit on what theme you use..
[13:14] <zerlor> hmm okey and how is the kde paket called i have to install?
[13:15] <Slart> zerlor: kde-desktop I think
[13:15] <Slart> zerlor: or-.. kubuntu-desktop
[13:15] <LakesProse> in a ftp daemon, what is the advantage of having virtual users ?
[13:15] <futuh> why dpkg-reconfigure is just only setting keyboard, not resolution?
[13:15] <daftykins> futuh, because X.org does gfx settings automatically now, doesn't really use the file
[13:16] <daftykins> futuh, you can still force settings by entering them in there
[13:16] <Slart> LakesProse: not having to create real users for your system and then have to disable them for everything but ftp
[13:16] <zerlor> okey i will install it now.. and then try if it works
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> !vnc
[13:16] <Scix> a quic question: Is rc.local runed before or after network is up?
[13:16] <lfaraone> beli: if you already know that, why are you asking?
[13:16] <Raj_> I see that in KMplayer xine effects sound quality. It reduce players volume????
[13:16] <beli> lfaraone: cause i dont remember howto do it?!?!
[13:16] <Raj_> or up??
[13:16] <lfaraone> Incarus, ActionParsnip turns out it was a extention problem, sorry to bother you guys.
[13:16] <futuh> ok, but that isn't workig after reconfigure :o
[13:16] <wers> how do I create mac-readable symlinks on ubuntu?
[13:16] <beli> i am not asking for shit
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[13:17] <ActionParsnip> lfaraone: no worries dude
[13:17] <Myrtti> beli: mind your language
[13:17] <ActionParsnip> lfaraone: as long as you reach the goal its fine :)
[13:17] <Incarus> futuh, whats problem?
[13:17] <beli> Myrtti: tell lfaraone not to start flaming and i will mind
[13:17] <wers> ikonia: the reboot didnt work. my sudo account is still broken. hal is still broken :(
[13:17] <Incarus> beli, whats the problem?
[13:17] <LakesProse> Slart: but doesn't a real local user have to exist in order to have 1 or more virtual ones ?
[13:17] <futuh> Incarus, i try to get 720p picture to videoprojector and it puts automatically 420i
[13:18] <beli> wers: what is the problem with the links?
[13:18] <bipi> hello
[13:18] <lfaraone> beli: I'm not flaming...
[13:18] <Incarus> futuh, k, dont know
[13:18] <plus91> hello people:D
[13:18] <Slart> LakesProse: it depends on the ftp server.. but in general it would be a good idea
[13:18] <bipi> hello people
[13:18] <plus91> ciao
[13:18] <DJones>  /whois bipi
[13:18] <pdlnhrd> I have a ATI Technologies Inc RV610 [Radeon HD 2400 XT] video card and I am try to set  up dual head but after every restart it goes back into clone mode.... does anyone know how I can fix this  (i can set it to the correct dual head display but than asks me to reboot)
[13:18] <sides> I have a problem with my xserver-org, my xorg.conf is okay but the resolution is still 600x800
[13:18] <Damir> Ok let's try again. I have a rrd Database (here You can find how I have created it: http://paste-it.net/public/vca4a59/) Ok what I wanna do? I grep every minute two values and I put it on the Database: rrdtool update stats.rrd N:123:432. The values will increase, so I chose the COUNTER Datasource type. OK now problem but If I wanna make the graph..I will get no lines, no MAXIMUM, MINIMUM and...
[13:18] <beli> lfaraone: i told that i want to use console, i told that i want to use X and i told that i dont want to use vnc.....and you ask me why i am asking? i guess you think for fun...
[13:18] <bipi> British petroliam
[13:18] <Damir> ...AVG values. Only the TOTAL value. And I don't know why?!
[13:18] <LakesProse> Slart: ok so you must have a real user anyways
[13:19] <bipi> bye
[13:19] <Slart> LakesProse: or use an already existing user
, did you try to configure your xorg.conf file
[13:19] <lfaraone> beli: Ok, is there a reason you don't want to use VNC?
[13:19] <ActionParsnip> !xinerama | pdlnhrd
[13:19] <usuario> ola
[13:19] <Incarus> sides, can you paste /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[13:19] <Slart> LakesProse: are you trying to decide on what ftp server to use?
[13:19] <sides> Incarus sec
[13:19] <Raj_> How to join other channels in Xchat, there is not seeing smashthestack.org channel, How to add it in Xchat in Ubuntu???????
[13:19] <LakesProse> Slart: no, I'm already using vsfrpd
[13:20] <Slart> LakesProse: oh, ok
[13:20] <LakesProse> Slart: I'm just trying to decide wheter implementing virtual users is worth it
[13:20] <ActionParsnip> Raj_: /j #<channel name>
[13:20] <Incarus> Raj_, just join with /join
[13:20] <pdlnhrd> Incarus: I used the catalyst tool to set up the dual displays... i was hoping to avoid editing xorg.cof
[13:20] <ikonia> wers: it's a livecd - you can't change a live
[13:20] <lfaraone> beli: X does not support what you are asking for as far as I am aware.
[13:20] <ActionParsnip> Raj_: e.g. /j #xubuntu
[13:20] <wers> ikonia: how?
[13:20] <indian> oh sorry its server
[13:20] <ikonia> wers: you can't change a livecd - it's read only
[13:20] <beli> lfaraone: yes, i dont want to use additional software...and some clients work on other operating systems....i want to use ssh2 client like putty with X11 fwd to do the job...
[13:21] <ikonia> wers: if you're livecd is broken, you must have a broken livecd - as you can't change a livecd, it's read only
[13:21] <sides> Incarus http://pastebin.com/m3d90863b
[13:21] <beli> lfaraone: the x.org channel is quiet atm....i asked there already
[13:21] <Raj_> sorry I want to join server
[13:21] <lfaraone> beli: hehe... ah, I figured it out:
[13:21] <Slart> LakesProse: I use virtual users for my ftp server.. I just find it easier to have two separate user databases... just makes me worry less
[13:21] <Pici> Raj_: /connect servername
[13:21] <vigo> Can I put Xubuntu current and Ubuntu8.04 on the same HDD? I wish to try Xubuntu or Xfce and Edbuntu later on, will this cause conflicts?
[13:21] <wers> ikonia: i meant, i'm on a live cd now because my root account in my ubuntu install is broken. i changed the root uid to 80 in my ubuntu install. how do i fix it on the live cd?
[13:22] <lfaraone> beli: enable VNC on the server, SSH into the server with X forwarding, and then use vinagre on the server (which spawns a window on the client)
[13:22] <Slart> LakesProse: and I know I can just uninstall the ftp server and those usernames are gone
[13:22] <ikonia> wers: how did you change the uid to 80 ?
[13:22] <ikonia> wers: and why did you do that on your install ?
[13:22] <lfaraone> beli: that way you don't need any additional client software.
[13:22] <LakesProse> Slart: that's true, true
[13:22] <ActionParsnip> vigo: sure: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[13:22] <beli> lfaraone: vinagre...ok reading...thanks
[13:22] <ActionParsnip> vigo: before you log in, change the session to whichever you want
[13:23] <sides> Incarus u with me ?
[13:23] <LakesProse> Slart: so there isn't really a security advantage in having virtual users, it seems more like hygiene
[13:23] <Slart> LakesProse: but on the other hand.. if I cared about those users I guess it would be easier to create system accounts.. that way I could change ftp server without having to recreate the accounts
[13:23] <disappearedng> any1 here can recommend a good easy to use FTP server?
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> vigo: in xfce you will be able to execute and use gnome based apps also
[13:23] <m3gaman> !ftp
[13:23] <Incarus> sides, line 2050
[13:23] <vigo> ActionPasnip: Thank you
[13:23] <Incarus> sides, (EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found)
[13:23] <m3gaman> !ftpd
[13:23] <LakesProse> disappearedng: I use fireFTP gladly
[13:23] <Slart> LakesProse: well.. you'll have to trust the ftp server to do authentication and storing the password hashes in a sane way...
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> vigo: you could pile on the DEs all you want and use all the apps, just depends on HDD space
[13:23] <lfaraone> beli: vinagre is ubuntu's VNC client, it's quite nice
[13:23] <sides> Incarus-  i just reinstalled the driver and its still not working
[13:24] <erbi> vNd
[13:24] <disappearedng> For SERVER?
[13:24] <erbi> vMp
[13:24] <Silkjc> I just let Rhythmbox auto detect and download audio codecs. Sound was working, but after reboot it seems to just come out garbled..is this a common problem?
[13:24] <m3gaman> sLc
[13:24] <beli> lfaraone: that might work, isnt there a vnc client that is console controlable?
[13:24] <Russian_punks> hello people
[13:24] <wers> ikonia: I ran usermod -u 80 root
[13:24] <LakesProse> Slart: hmm, then I'd rather stay with real local users
[13:24] <ikonia> wers: why ?
[13:24] <Incarus> sides, your xserver is also to old (X.Org X Server 1.4.0.90)
[13:24] <lfaraone> beli: i'm sure.
[13:24] <vigo> ActionParsnip: about 180g on first, 80 on slave.
[13:24] <LakesProse> Slart: I mean , as long as I chroot them and have a list, I think I should be okay
[13:24] <Scooma> pdlnhrd, try the instructions on   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=301941&highlight=ATI+x800XL
[13:24] <LakesProse> Slart: what ftp server do you use, good sir ?
[13:24] <Slart> LakesProse: yes, sure.. both ways are safe if you know what you're doing..
[13:24] <lfaraone> beli: what do you mean by "console controllable", as in has a CLI as well as a GUI?
[13:25] <sides> Incarus-  im allways up to date with the packges
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> vigo: also depends on needs and your standpoint on bloat
[13:25] <Scooma> wers,  so you did it eh?
[13:25] <Incarus> sides, 1.5.99 is the newest
[13:25] <beli> lfaraone: yes....CLI, i dont care about GUI...but if it has also ;)
[13:25] <LakesProse> Slart: well I don't know per sé, but I get that chroots make home dir  look like / and the list is a lit :P
[13:25] <LakesProse> list*
[13:25] <sides> Incarus-  k .. i'll update both
[13:25] <Incarus> sides, you should upgrade to the latest xserver and it should work
[13:26] <sides> Incarus-  k .. thx
[13:26] <Incarus> sides, np
[13:26] <vigo> ActionParsnip: Just playing and testing to see which I will present to my brother , he is a high school band director.
[13:26] <ikonia> wers: what made you do that ?
[13:26] <wers> ikonia and Scooma: to have the same root account in ubuntu and os x
[13:26] <ArcSighter> ikonia: what about our tests on ubuntu, you left me hanging dude ;)
[13:26] <beli> lfaraone: i will saerch for a client then, thanks for your ideas
[13:26] <LakesProse> it's really frustrating, some options for vsftpd.cong are only online, some are online in the man page and I just can't find anymore
[13:26] <Slart> LakesProse: no need for the sir, we're all dogs here on the internet =).. and I use pure-ftp for my small server
[13:26] <ikonia> ArcSighter: ahh had to drive home
[13:26] <ikonia> ArcSighter: do you have the vmstat output still ?
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> vigo: try lxde too, i think its awesome
[13:26] <disappearedng> Any1 here have a good FTP server to recommend?
[13:26] <lfaraone> beli: well, if it doesn't have a GUI how do you expect to be able to see what's happening on the desktop? :)
[13:27] <ikonia> wers: osX uses 0 uid for a root account
[13:27] <Scooma> ikonia, i suggested that if I was him I wouldn't do it...
[13:27] <LakesProse> Slart: how's that working out ?
[13:27] <lfaraone> beli: if you're just looking to share a console session there is GNU screen.
[13:27] <ActionParsnip> disappearedng: proftpd vsftpd are two
[13:27] <vigo> >>>taking notes
[13:27] <wers> ikonia: aw. so i broke my root and didnt get anything out of it.. aw
[13:27] <Russian_punks> girls to me)
[13:27] <deany> how can i set an applications icon (menu entry) to open on desktop 2 and not always on first visible virtual desktop
[13:27] <Slart> LakesProse: nicely for those once a month file transfers
[13:28] <Slart> LakesProse: I've never used it for anything really serious
[13:28] <Scooma> wers ubuntu default is zero too --     root:x:0:0:root:/root:/bin/bash
[13:28] <ikonia> wers: I don't understand why as the mac OS root account has a UID of 0 to, so I don't know what made you do 80 ?
[13:28] <beli> lfaraone: nah needs to be X....you can start X stuff from console...you dont need a gui to start windows' and apps
[13:28] <LakesProse> Slart: good to know :)
[13:29] <Incarus> wers, are you in a live linux?
[13:29] <vigo> ActionParsnip: Is lxde more graphical and media and which has the lightest load as this will be run on Desktop and Laptop.
[13:29] <lfaraone> wers: the only thing that makes root special is its UID.
[13:29] <Scooma> Incarus,  he's now running a livecd
[13:29] <Incarus> Scooma, k
[13:29] <lfaraone> wers: as in if I made an account named "defjoasndoasnd" and gave it UID 0 it would have all of root's powers.
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> vigo: its very lightweight and snappy but still looks fairly decent
[13:30] <ikonia> wers: from the livecd mount your root file system on your disk and change /etc/passwd to change the uid from 80 ro 08
[13:30] <ikonia> to 0
[13:30] <JarG0n> What does it mean if a service is running on 0.0.0.0 ?
[13:30] <ikonia> wers: I still don't understand why you changed it to 80
[13:30] <Incarus> wers, take a look at the sudoers file
[13:30] <wers> Scooma, Incarus, and lfaraone: i guess, i fixed it. i changed it in etc/root and etc/passwd :D
[13:30] <ikonia> JarG0n: all iP
[13:30] <wers> is that right?
[13:30] <coreyman1> hmm
[13:30] <Slart> JarG0n: that it listens to all local ips?
[13:30] <ikonia> wers: etc/root is not needed
[13:30] <JarG0n> should rpc.statd  do that?
[13:30] <ikonia> wers: that's not even a file
[13:30] <JarG0n> and rpc.mountd ?
[13:31] <vigo> ActionParsnip: Ok, let me get all those, and give them a try.
[13:31] <Scooma> wers,  is /etc/root on your Mac?
[13:31] <ikonia> JarG0n: thats just a rpc service
[13:31] <wers> ikonia: sorry. i meant etc/group
[13:31] <Incarus> wers, k, but check your /etc/sudoers file
[13:31] <ikonia> wers: you don't have to change /etc/group
[13:31] <chomwitt> hi. does  seahorse-daemon  and gnome-keyring-daemon do the same thing?
[13:31] <ikonia> wers: /etc/group doesn't contain uid info
[13:31] <Slart> JarG0n: no idea
[13:31] <JarG0n> ok, thx :)
[13:32] <wers> ikonia: okay. but is changing 80 to 0 in /etc/passwd enough?
[13:32] <ikonia> yes
[13:32] <lfaraone> JarG0n: it's on all addresses
[13:32] <lfaraone> JarG0n: *bound to all
[13:32] <wers> ikonia: thanks. rebooting now :D
[13:32] <Scooma> wers are you logging in as root?
[13:33] <wers> Scooma: nope
[13:33] <Scooma> wers okay :)
[13:33] <gencha> i'm on 8.04.1 and am trying to enable mod_logio for apache2 but i can neither find the module nor fine it in the apt repositories
[13:34] <gencha> is it deprecated or something? or am i looking in the wrong spots?
[13:34] <lfaraone> gencha: then maybe it's not packaged.
[13:34] <lfaraone> gencha: was it included in other versions of ubuntu?
[13:34] <Jackaruto> I'm trying to install ubuntu on an emachine however, the CD seems to know I'm not installing an MS product and won't boot, any MS product I put in the drive will boot from CD but my know good ubuntu CD will not?
[13:34] <lfaraone> Jackaruto: did you change the BIOS settings to ALWAYS boot from CD?
[13:34] <gencha> lfaraone: can't say, this is the first i'm using
[13:35] <Jackaruto> yes
[13:35] <lfaraone> Jackaruto: no idea then.
[13:35] <lfaraone> Jackaruto: that *should* be illegal, but it might not be in your area :)
[13:35] <Jackaruto> is it possible to restice a CD boot up to an MS product
[13:35] <lfaraone> Jackaruto: sure.
[13:35] <ArcSighter> hello all
[13:36] <lfaraone> gencha: looks like it's just unpackaged. What exactly does this mod_ do? (is there anything packaged that does the same thing?)
[13:36] <Incarus> JAckaruto, wow, which country?
[13:36] <Jackaruto> US
[13:36] <gencha> "This module provides the logging of input and output number of bytes received/sent per request."
[13:36] <ArcSighter> ikonia: yesterday you were guiding to me to do some tests about my intrepid slowdown issues, are you there?
[13:36] <Jackaruto> I've got 12 PC I've buitl myself all running nix
[13:36] <Jackaruto> never had a problem
[13:36] <gencha> well it's needed to use a certain feature in mod_security, thus i was looking for it
[13:36] <lfaraone> Jackaruto: odd.
[13:36] <Jackaruto> tell my buddy brings me this dman emachine
[13:36] <lfaraone> gencha: hm...
[13:37] <Scooma> gencha, i think there's a debian rpm package... also you might need to alien it to convert it?
[13:37] <zerlor> slart: i have installed the kde enviroment
[13:37] <zerlor> now how can i start it?
[13:37] <ikonia> ArcSighter: yes, I asked you 10 minutes ago if you had the vmstat output I asked for yesterday
[13:37] <Slart> zerlor: log out and search for the session button
[13:37] <gencha> well i don't really rely on the feature but it would have been nice to have. thanks :)
[13:37] <zerlor> okey and can i start it in a virutal consol?
[13:37] <Travis-42> after I change an Authorization (system->administration->authorizations), do I have to do anything to make it go into effect (E.g. reboot)?
[13:37] <zerlor> then i could start kde and gnome
[13:37] <lfaraone> gencha: well, you have two options: a) install it from source B) package it yourself and maintain it in Ubuntu so others can benefit from your work :)
[13:38] <Slart> zerlor: let me see if I can find a screenshot for you... here is one.. http://www.cs.wisc.edu/twiki/bin/view/CSDocs/GnomeDesktopFAQs
[13:38] <gencha> lfaraone: good point ;)
[13:38] <Slart> zerlor: the first picture even has a nice big black arrow pointing it out =)
[13:38] <zerlor> yes i see thanks:)
[13:39] <zerlor> i will try it ;)
[13:39] <Kuukkeli^> Hello, i have a problem with my Linux ubuntu, i started using it again after about 2 years. Well this time i got ATI drivers and its Proprietary, how could i fix this dilemma?
[13:39] <zerlor> be back in some minutes=)
[13:39] <Slart> zerlor: if it isn't there you might have to enable it in system, administration, login window
[13:39] <ArcSighter> ikonia: wait
[13:39] <lfaraone> gencha: if you do decide to package it, #ubuntu-motu will be more than glad to help you out. (although I recommend pushing your package through Debian so that both distros will benefit)
[13:39] <Incarus> JAckaruto, and whats about usb keys?
[13:40] <Jackaruto> ?
[13:40] <Scooma> Travis-42, you needed to change something in there to make something work, yes?  so try to do it again and if it works, no. if it doesn't, maybe you need to restart your shell (or logout/login)
[13:40] <Incarus> JAckaruto, bootable usb key
[13:40] <erbi> shuttutututufuckfuieeeup
[13:40] <lfaraone> erbi: ...?
[13:40] <Jackaruto> hum? maybe, I haven't any flash drives
[13:40] <Slart> erbi: yes, you're keyboard works.. no, that wasn't a good thing to test it with
[13:40] <lfaraone> Jackaruto: does windows boot currently?
[13:40] <JarG0n> I have a service running on a port that is not recognized via netstat -apn.  I can connect to it via telnet, but don't know what commands to issue.  Can anyone help?
[13:40] <Jackaruto> that a things I'm always going to get aournd to buying but never do
[13:41] <lfaraone> Jackaruto: you can use unetbootin to do a netinstall.
[13:41] <Jackaruto> yes
[13:41] <Incarus> Jackaruto, have you got a floppy drive?
[13:41] <Jackaruto> no
[13:41] <Scooma> Kuukkeli^, what's the problem with the driver? you don't want it?
[13:41] <Jackaruto> I guess I could add one
[13:41] <lfaraone> Jackaruto: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[13:41] <Incarus> Jackaruto, and windows is working?
[13:41] <Kuukkeli^> Could anyone help me with my ATI driver being Proprietary problem?
, sure, whats the problem?
[13:41] <lfaraone> Jackaruto: that requires only a net connection, it installs via the LiveCD or alternate net install. (the latter is faster)
[13:42] <Jackaruto> yes I know it, never used it before
[13:42] <Incarus> Jackaruto, wubi is also good
[13:42] <lfaraone> Jackaruto: I use it all the time, it's very easy
[13:42] <Kuukkeli^> Incarus, well the ubuntu isn't working smoothly at all and i think the reason is because my ATI drivers are proprietary.
[13:42] <lfaraone> Incarus: but that's not a good idea for stability :)
[13:42] <lfaraone> Incarus: moreover, wubi still is dependent on windows
[13:42] <Incarus> lfaraone, k
[13:42] <Scooma> Kuukkeli^,  read http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=517225  first and follow the instructions
[13:42] <zerlor> slart it works!
[13:42] <zerlor> thank you
[13:43] <Kuukkeli^> Scooma, Thank you!
[13:43] <Jackaruto> you all have gave me so good ideas thanks
[13:43] <Slart> zerlor: you're welcome, enjoy your new kde desktop =)
[13:43] <Scooma> Kuukkeli^, make sure you read it all first
[13:43] <Kuukkeli^> Scooma, woah! Nice article about ati Pro_PIE_tary
, paste output of "glxgears"
[13:43] <Kuukkeli^> Thank you
[13:43] <zerlor> slart: i enjoy both:) ... but one more question.. can i start a grapic enviroment form a virtual console like tty1?
[13:43] <jaspal4805> hi :)
[13:43] <Incarus> zerlor, yes
[13:43] <Kuukkeli^> I'll read the forum thread properly, maybe 2 times
[13:44] <zerlor> how this work?
[13:44] <jaspal4805> i need some help :(
[13:44] <JarG0n> What does it mean when using netstat -p, when a service is listed as - ?
[13:44] <lfaraone> Jackaruto: no problme
[13:44] <Slart> zerlor: hmm.. I have no idea really..
[13:44] <Incarus> !ask | jaspal4805
[13:44] <tifrugonelpc> Ciao
[13:44] <tifrugonelpc> a tutti
[13:44] <Pici> !it | TheAngel
[13:45] <Pici> TheAngel: sorry, meant that for tifrugonelpc
[13:45] <TheAngel> damn my wifi sux
[13:45] <Pici> JarG0n: Use sudo
[13:45] <TheAngel> np
[13:45] <JarG0n> Pici> I did, actually.
[13:45] <JarG0n> Pici> Still have the -
[13:45] <jaspal4805> i have an Acer aspire 4710z laptop. i installed ubuntu 8.10 yesterday
[13:45] <Scooma> JarG0n, it just means that it couldn't identify the application using it - possibly it's because it belongs to a service started by root?
[13:45] <zerlor> slart: not so important wil find it out;) because then its possible to have 2 grapic enviroment at the same time.. like kde and gnome... ah how can i update this kde verison? just apt-get update and upgrade?
[13:46] <Pici> JarG0n: I only get - in PID/program if I do not run it with sudo.
[13:46] <tifrugonelpc> sapreste dirmi se per caso avete problemi a scaricare la posta con thunderbird
[13:46] <JediMaster> random thought =): don't you hate it when you scroll through past commands, hitting the up arrow, so many times that you could have typed the same command in half the amount of keypresses?
[13:46] <digifor> I am trying to "ask [my] favourite burning software to burn “rEFIt-0.12.cdr” as a “ISO image”
[13:46] <Kuukkeli^> Scooma, now i see why you said the read it properly, AdrianP forgot to add that xorg thingie
[13:46] <Slart> zerlor: I think you can run two x-servers if you want.. using different desktop managers..
[13:46] <tifrugonelpc> io sono 2 giorni che non riesco a scaricare la posta con tin
[13:46] <Kuukkeli^> So shall i use that command?
[13:46] <jaspal4805> i have an Acer aspire 4710z laptop. i installed ubuntu 8.10 yesterday. i cant get wifi working on it. the button for wifi is not working .
[13:46] <ActionParsnip> tifrugonelpc: italy?
[13:46] <digifor> as per http://refit.sourceforge.net/doc/c1s5_burning.html
[13:46] <Slart> zerlor: it will of course use a bit more memory and such..
[13:46] <Pici> !it | tifrugonelpc
[13:46] <Scooma> Kuukkeli^,  :)
[13:46] <tifrugonelpc> yes Italy
[13:46] <ActionParsnip> jaspal4805: use lspci to identify the wifi chip
[13:46] <JarG0n> Scooma> shouldn't sudo enable netstat to ID the service ?
, yes
[13:46] <tifrugonelpc> sorry
[13:47] <digifor> but k3b and brassero both tell me it is not an iso image
[13:47] <ArcSighter> ikonia: the vmstat output http://paste.ubuntu.com/129768/
[13:47] <jaspal4805> the drivers for aethros are installed
[13:47] <Kuukkeli^> Scooma, you're a lifesaver, althought im not into men but i would kiss you! =)
[13:47] <digifor> Should I rename the .cdr to .iso?
[13:47]  * Scooma blushes
[13:47] <Incarus> jaspal4805, ask in one line
[13:47] <tifrugonelpc> ok thx
[13:47] <ActionParsnip> digifor: what does the command   file   say the .cdr is?
[13:48] <tifrugonelpc> #ubuntu-it
[13:48] <ActionParsnip> jaspal4805: are they modprobed?
[13:48] <zerlor> slart: memory is not the problem =) okey i will be back later! thank you for your help perhaps i wil be soon back and ask some questions ;)
[13:48] <ActionParsnip> jaspal4805: sudo lshw -C network will show you whats what
[13:48] <ActionParsnip> jaspal4805: are you sure its an atheros?
[13:48] <jaspal4805> i just need to know weather acer_acpi is already there with ubuntu 8.10??
[13:48] <Slart> zerlor: you're welcome
[13:48] <Scooma> JarG0n you might want to read up on what daemons use certain ports?
[13:48] <zerlor> thanks  bye!
[13:49] <JarG0n> Scooma> ok, thx
[13:49] <ActionParsnip> jaspal4805: yes its in the current kernel. didnt used to be (man that was hell)
[13:49] <Slart> jaspal4805: I've got an acer laptop with 8.10, is there anything I can check for you?
[13:49] <digifor> looking at properties it seems to tell me it is a "corel draw" file???
[13:49] <ArcSighter> ikonia: is the one you requested , right?
[13:49] <ikonia> ArcSighter: you've not shown me one yet
[13:50] <Kuukkeli^> Scooma, shall i now reboot after the command? =)
[13:50] <jaspal4805> ya slart. my wifi buttin on 4710z is not working. drivers for aethros chip are already installed
[13:50] <ikonia> ArcSighter: I saw one yesterday, and then asked for another one
[13:50] <ikonia> ArcSighter: I need the other one
[13:50] <usr13> Slart: jaspal4805 Compare to see if you have same wifi cards:  lspci
[13:50] <Kuukkeli^> It has Removed and processed the thingie.
[13:50] <Kuukkeli^> I shall try my luck by rebooting ;D
[13:50]  * Slart gets his laptop
[13:50] <ArcSighter> ikonia: I just did: http://paste.ubuntu.com/129768/
[13:50] <yudy> hi
[13:51] <gogul2k> hm openbox seems to be ignoring my autostart.sh file =/
[13:51] <Kuukkeli^> I'll come back if i get more troubles.
[13:51] <Scooma> Kuukkeli^, you should just need to restart your shell... or logout/login again
[13:51] <Rabbitbunny> Anybody installed WoW? I'm getting extreme input lag and it's acting like it thinks it's full screen although it's only 800x600 of my 1600x1200.
[13:51] <ikonia> ArcSighter: thats of a "busy" or "slow" box, yes ?
[13:51] <Kuukkeli^> Rabbitbunny, did you tinker with the config list yet?
[13:51] <Rabbitbunny> Kuukkeli^: No. Hints?
[13:51] <usr13> jaspal4805: What does lspci say?  See your wifi card listed there?
[13:51] <Kuukkeli^> I remember something about changing some things in the config list..
[13:51] <Rabbitbunny> Hmm.
[13:52] <Kuukkeli^> Wait a sec, i'll link you it before reboot. =)
[13:52] <Rabbitbunny> o0o0o
[13:52] <Kuukkeli^> rabbitbunny, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WorldofWarcraft
[13:52] <ArcSighter> ikonia: yes I've opened the apps that normally make it slow and after some time the system became sluggish
[13:52] <Rabbitbunny> Kuukkeli^: Thanks.
[13:52] <Kuukkeli^> I sure hope that helps you.
[13:52] <Rabbitbunny> me too.
[13:52] <ikonia> ArcSighter: ok, let me compare and have a think
[13:52] <Kuukkeli^> Althought i hate WoW. =D
[13:53] <ActionParsnip> Kuukkeli^:  +1
[13:53] <Kuukkeli^> Same boring old crap expansion after expansion
[13:53] <jaspal4805> yupp my card is listed there in  lspci
[13:53] <disappearedng> any 1 here used gproftpd before? I installed it and I can't find gproftpd in /usr/bin or in the toolbar
[13:53] <Rabbitbunny> yes, over and over./me like the data aquisition.
[13:53] <Kuukkeli^> =D
[13:53] <Kuukkeli^> Well, rebootan pc
[13:53] <Slart> jaspal4805: lspci reports Intel corporation P
[13:53] <ActionParsnip> jaspal4805: ok now you can websearch for that and you can find out how to set it up
[13:53] <ArcSighter> ikonia: ok pal I'm waiting...
[13:54] <Slart> jaspal4805: lspci reports Intel corporation Pro/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan]...
[13:54] <jaspal4805> my drivers are already there in the system only i cant get my wifi turn on from a dedicated button my keyboard
[13:55] <thread2fork> hi, can anyone help me with a wubi and raid1 problem ... i tried out wubi even though i know fake-raids are not the best thing to try out and now it seems wubi only manages to boot into ubunto 2 out of 10 times
[13:55] <Spectros>  hi, I have a problem, if I open any audio file with audacious, it tells me, my kernel of GTK crashed... how can I solve it?
[13:56] <MasterZ> Hey guys, I'm having a bit of trouble mountaing a USB hard drive on ubuntu, any suggestions?
[13:56] <ActionParsnip> Spectros: change from pulse to alsa, or alsa to pulse
[13:56] <klaas> hey, can I use the alternate install cd to setup a server environment?
[13:56] <ActionParsnip> !sound
[13:56] <MasterZ> !usb
[13:56] <usr13> jaspal4805: http://pastebin.ca/1358173
[13:57] <usr13> jaspal4805: But first, use comand   lspci
[13:57] <Spectros> ActionParsnip: I don't have problem with sound but with audacious AND GTK :/
[13:57] <siriusnova> sawp
[13:57] <Scooma> MasterZ, you might want to do it manually?
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> Spectros: maybe try reinstalling the app, or read   dmesg | tail just after it crashes
[13:57] <MasterZ> yes, how?
[13:58] <MasterZ> I plugged in 3 hard drives, do not see them in df -h, but I see them show up in lsusb
[13:58] <MasterZ> what is the next step?
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> MasterZ: do they show up in sudo parted -l
[13:58] <Scooma> MasterZ, pop the drive in, wait a second and then run    dmesg | tail    to see what hardware device it mounted it, then   sudo mount /dev/sdx /media/disk      (making sure that you've mkdir media/disk  so it exists)
[13:59] <Spectros> thx
[13:59] <usr13> jaspal4805: lspci |grep Wireless
[13:59] <lenni_-_> i run 8.04 but would like just one package from the latest 8.10 repo without updating the entire server. Can i do that?
[13:59] <genii> MasterZ: You are likely seeing in lsusb the usb controller of what the drives are attached to
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> usr13: if you use grep -i   it makes it case insensitive ;)
[13:59] <Scooma> MasterZ,  oh are they FAT or ext?
[13:59] <jaspal48051> afetr lspci i get  03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev 01)
[13:59] <MasterZ> they are unformatted, brand new just plugged them in
[13:59] <usr13> jaspal4805: lspci |grep ireless
[14:00] <genii> MasterZ: Does: sudo fdisk -l                      show them?
[14:00] <Scooma> MasterZ, ah all good then
[14:00] <usr13> ActionParsnip: Thanks for the tip, should have done that.
[14:00] <ActionParsnip> jaspal48051: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-get-atheros-ar5007eg-or-ar242x-wireless-cards-may-be-other-models-working-in-ubuntu-810-intrepid-ibex.html
[14:00] <MasterZ> yes
[14:00] <ActionParsnip> jaspal48051: can't say fairer than that
[14:00] <MasterZ> Disk /dev/sdb: 1000.2 GB, 1000204886016 bytes
[14:00] <MasterZ> Disk /dev/sdb doesn't contain a valid partition table
[14:00] <usr13> jaspal4805: Show us what you get back from the command    lspci |grep Wireless
[14:00] <MasterZ> it says that for all 3
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> MasterZ: ah, not so good, do they have data on?
[14:01] <usr13> jaspal4805: Show us what you get back from the command    lspci |grep -i Wireless
[14:01] <kumar123> hello everybody
[14:01] <MasterZ> nope, they are brand new drives
[14:01] <jaspal48051> after lspci |grep ireless i just get the prompt again
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> MasterZ: great then you need to partition and format them
[14:01] <daftykins> it's highly unlikely to be called wireless
[14:01] <Veinor> fdisk format reinstall
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> MasterZ: gksudo gparted
[14:01] <Veinor> doo-dah, doo-dah
[14:02] <MasterZ> okay, so /dev/sdb is the hardware name? can I use mdadm to create a raid by using that device name, right?
[14:02] <Scooma> MasterZ,  yeah run the partition editor
[14:02] <MasterZ> trying to setup a raid5
[14:02] <jaspal48051> lspci |grep wireless i get the prompt again
[14:02] <usr13> jaspal4805: Just try  lspci  and see if you see any lines that indicate a wifi type of device
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> MasterZ: you can use that gui app to manage them if you wish or use sudo fdisk if yo uprefer text based goodness
[14:02] <MasterZ> just didn't know about fdisk to show the device name :D
[14:02] <MasterZ> I'm ssh'ed into the box
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> MasterZ: /dev/sdb is a disk you can feel and touch, /dev/sdb1 will be the first partition on the disk
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> MasterZ: every day is a school day
[14:03] <MasterZ> true
[14:03] <MasterZ> :D
[14:03] <Scooma> MasterZ,  do they show up in   blkid  ?
[14:03] <MasterZ> no they don't Scooma
[14:03] <MasterZ> okay, let me use this info I have so far to see if I can get mdadm to work
[14:04] <Scooma> MasterZ,  yeah just wondering ;)
[14:05] <lesshaste> I get a lot of messages like (firefox:26389): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
[14:05] <lesshaste> any ideas about that?
[14:05] <usr13> jaspal4805: If you do not see the wifi device listed in the output of  lspci  you may need to check bios settings to see if it is dissabled.  You might also have a defective device - one that no longer works.  But at any rate, you need to identify it.  Try command:  iwconfig
[14:06] <Rabbitbunny> roksox?
[14:07] <MasterZ> hmmm, another problem... I have the ubuntu box on the network, I am curreontly remoted into it from my mac, but the ubuntu box cannot see the internet
[14:07] <MauricioR> to program in ubuntu which is better, java or c#? i want to learn a computer language
[14:07] <thread2fork> that depends on what you are planing to code
[14:07] <Scooma> lesshaste, yeah that's a flash problem
[14:07] <MauricioR> thank you my friend, muchos gracias
[14:07] <usr13> MasterZ: Can the mac "see the internet"?
[14:07] <thread2fork> i personally would start with c#
[14:08] <MasterZ> i'm on it now talking to you :)
[14:08] <Scooma> lesshaste, remember how the leftover socket file might be audio/flash related?
[14:08] <lesshaste> Scooma, :(  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/221668 says disable libflashsupport
[14:08] <lesshaste> Scooma, I don't really understand what that means
[14:08] <usr13> MasterZ: Then the ubuntu box should also have access to internet
[14:08] <pepe21> somebody can give me a url warez for downloading... games ?
[14:08] <Scooma> lesshaste, maybe switch to  swfdec?
[14:08] <MasterZ> usr13: the ubuntu box can ping my router
[14:09] <usr13> MasterZ: On the ubuntu box issue command    route -n
[14:09] <Scooma> lesshaste, basically your firfox/flash aren't playing nicely
[14:09] <Scooma> *firefox
[14:09] <lesshaste> Scooma, oh... :(
[14:09] <MasterZ> got 4 lines
[14:09] <MasterZ> Kernel IP routing table
[14:09] <MasterZ> Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags Metric Ref    Use Iface
[14:09] <MasterZ> 205.168.1.0     0.0.0.0         255.255.255.0   U     0      0        0 eth0
[14:09] <MasterZ> 169.254.0.0     0.0.0.0         255.255.0.0     U     1000   0        0 eth0
[14:09] <MasterZ> 0.0.0.0         205.168.1.1     0.0.0.0         UG    100    0        0 eth0
[14:09] <FloodBot2> MasterZ: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:09] <MasterZ> 5 lines :p
[14:10] <Scooma> lesshaste,  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swfdec
[14:10] <MasterZ> oops
[14:10] <Scooma> MasterZ,  sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[14:10] <usr13> MasterZ: If  route -n  returns the router's  IP address as the default gateway, then look at /etc/resolv.conf file and see if you have nameserver line:  cat /etc/resolv.conf
[14:10] <lesshaste> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/192888 is informative
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> MasterZ: please use pastebin or pastebinit in future
[14:11] <Scooma> MasterZ,   then use     pastebinit -i /etc/group   as an example
[14:11] <MasterZ> resolve.conf only says: # Generated by NetworkManager
[14:12] <ubilicios> Hey all.  I am having a problem.  I am trying to get to a website that is dropping packets.  Now on my windows machine it dosen't drop packets and it connects no probs
[14:12] <usr13> MasterZ: (Don't flood, just send pertainent info.) If your router's IP address is 205.168.1.1  you should have access to internet.  Check to see if you are resolving domain names:  host av.com
[14:12] <ubilicios> Anything I can do to help my ubuntu client?
[14:12] <MasterZ> host av.com is timing out I think
[14:13] <lesshaste> can you get flash 10 for hardy?
[14:13] <MasterZ> yp, timed out
[14:13] <MasterZ> yup*
[14:13] <QQQ> hey ho, is there anyone who can tell me how to install applications to an external drive? (otherwise my EEE-PCs storage kills me one day)
[14:13] <usr13> MasterZ: That is the problem, resolv.conf does not contain nameserver address.  Either your router's DHCP server failed to send it, or Ubuntu's dhcp client timed out before receiving it.
[14:13] <MasterZ> how do I fix that?
[14:13] <Scooma> MasterZ,       yeah you need to have this line in your resolv.conf      nameserver 205.168.1.1
[14:14] <Slart> ubilicios: what kind of network connection are you using? wired? wireless?
[14:14] <ubilicios> Slart: Wired.
[14:14] <rrofl> wow big group
[14:15] <MasterZ> bingo, Thanks Scooma
[14:15] <rrofl> can anyone tell me if a desktop comes packaged with the server (8-04) installation please?
[14:15] <usr13> MasterZ: You can manually add a nameserver like this: cat >> /etc/resolv.conf     and then on the next line type:  nameserver 205.168.1.1  and then do: Ctrl-D (hold Ctrl key and hit letter d)
[14:15] <lesshaste> I thought it was in hardy backports
[14:15] <lesshaste> but it isn't listed
[14:15] <MasterZ> I keep forgeting about the cat >> shortcut.. I always vi it lol
[14:15] <iixzzzzz>  im using konversation client how can  display my systeminfo ?
[14:15] <usr13> MasterZ: sudo cat >> /etc/reslov.conf
[14:16] <MasterZ> yeah, already done
[14:16] <Slart> ubilicios: and you only get packet loss when connecting to a specific site? or all the time?
[14:16] <rbowes> s/reslov/resolv/ :)
[14:16] <ubilicios> just to the site.
[14:16] <usr13> MasterZ: Try to reslove domanin name:  host av.com
[14:16] <Scooma> yay reslov!
[14:16] <MasterZ> yeah, it works now usr13
[14:16] <Slart> ubilicios: but it works ok if you try it from a windows machine
[14:16] <ubilicios> I have been working with the tech that controls the router in front of the server.
[14:16] <iixzzzzz>  im using konversation client how can  display my systeminfo ?
[14:16] <rrofl> hello there, can i get a little help for a wee problem please?
[14:16] <ubilicios> Slart:  Yes
[14:17] <ubilicios> I can give you the site and see if you can get to it
[14:17] <usr13> MasterZ: Good,  :)
[14:17] <Slart> ubilicios: that is very strange.... yea sure
[14:17] <ubilicios> http://ps.posen.k12.mi.us/admin
[14:17] <iixzzzzz> anyone ?
[14:17] <corey> Some of my movies are not loud enough. Is there a way to use software to make it louder?
[14:17] <Scooma> iixzzzzz,  what's the konversation client?
[14:17] <telematica> hello
[14:17] <iixzzzzz> Scooma its  irc client ?
[14:17] <usr13> corey: alsamixer
[14:17] <MasterZ> uhm... sudo apt-get install mdadm     that should install mdadm, right? I'm getting a "configuring citadel-server" menu right now
[14:17] <QQQ> is my patience worth it (or should I resend my question or search for help somewhere else?)
[14:18] <Scooma> iixzzzzz, when you say system info do you mean    uname -a    ?
[14:18] <rrofl> all i wanna do is run a desktop from the server version i just installed
[14:18] <Scooma> QQQ what's your q'n?
[14:18] <QQQ> how to install applications to an external drive?
[14:18] <MasterZ> thanks for the help everyone :)
[14:18] <corey> usr13: have you used it?
[14:18] <Scooma> rrofl, startx ?
[14:18] <iixzzzzz> Scooma yes alot with umm space mem g/card etc etc
[14:18] <daftykins> rrofl, that defeats the purpose of installing the server version somewhat, but you can "apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" on server
[14:19] <Scooma> iixzzzzz, ah you want to look in /proc then
[14:19] <Slart> ubilicios: no response when I tried it from my browser.. how do you determine that it is packet loss you're experiencing?
[14:19] <usr13> corey: Yes
[14:19] <rrofl> scooma, oh yeah ill start with installing xinit :)
[14:19] <MasterZ> hmmm, question, I'm setting up 3 1TB drives in a raid 5 configuration... should I make them all 1 big partition or make a few smaller ones?
[14:19] <ubilicios> Slart:  I ran wireshark
[14:19] <mikevankuik> how can I auto login a user? I only have assess via ssh... I know its posible just not sure how to do it again...
[14:19] <Scooma> iixzzzzz,  ie -  cat /proc/meminfo
[14:19] <rrofl> daftykins, no it doesn't, i wanted to make sure I have all default server packages installed and get nothing left out
[14:19] <iixzzzzz> Scooma how do i spam it in a channel like my system stat ?
[14:19] <PerryArmstrong> hey can anyone help me... whenever i set my system in hibernate, i get to see some erorr messages that the activation has failed
[14:19] <ubilicios> Slart:  Plus if you let it go for a bit it will slowly start to load it
[14:19] <yudy> how I can see  broken packages in ubuntu 8.10?
[14:19] <rrofl> however, i would like to occasionally use some apps on it that run in desktop
[14:19] <Scooma> QQQ, you mean like a usb drive?
[14:20] <usr13> QQQ: dpkg -i /media/disk/where/it/is
[14:20] <QQQ> Scooma: yes, usb hd
[14:20] <Scooma> usr13,  :)
[14:20] <Slart> ubilicios: hmm.. booting a vm with windows .. then it works.. but slowly as you say
[14:20] <PerryArmstrong> and when i come back from hibernation i get a message that the hibernation has failed
[14:20] <PerryArmstrong> can anyone solve this problem
[14:20] <ubilicios> No, its a full windows client
[14:20] <QQQ> usr13 thx, and I'll try that and will see If get it started :)
[14:21] <Scooma> yudy,   dpkg --audit
[14:21] <ubilicios> No it will slowly load up in ubuntu
[14:21] <iixzzzzz> Scooma im saying is there are plugin. where it can display my systeminfo in a channel
[14:21] <ubilicios> But in windows its just like any other web site.  Fast loading.
[14:21] <Slart> ubilicios: ok.. perhaps I didn't let it run for a long enough time
[14:21] <iixzzzzz> huh ?
[14:22] <iixzzzzz> SCooma..
[14:22] <rrofl> does installing xinit install the default GNOME (ubuntu) desktop ?
[14:22] <Scooma> iixzzzzz,  oh you mean to show off? i don't know sorry. maybe someone else? usr13   how can iixzzzzz dump his system info into a channel?
[14:22] <jrib> rrofl: no...
[14:22] <iixzzzzz> yea show off.
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> rrofl: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[14:22] <rrofl> jrib, i can start by installing xinit? or I dont need xinit at all if I am going the gnome route?
[14:22] <ubilicios> It really has me puzzled and I really don't know how to word a google search for it
[14:22] <rrofl> aha ok thanks actionparsnip
[14:22] <QQQ> other Question: Is there any strict and good firewall  that askes for any programm if it may connect?
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> rrofl: you should have that any way
[14:23] <jrib> rrofl: just install ubuntu-desktop as someone else suggested
[14:23] <iixzzzzz> no luck ?
[14:23] <werner-xfs> hi, i changed my / and /home from ext2 to xfs and now it seems i lost all setuid bits... any help?
[14:23] <rrofl> where is it installed actionparsnip so i can check?
[14:23] <corey> usr13: alsamixergui?
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> rrofl: that will repair your desktop o default settings
[14:23] <Scooma> ubilicios, more memory maybe?
[14:23] <usr13> iixzzzzz: You need something like pastebin?
[14:24] <ActionParsnip> rrofl: its installed all over the place, its not like windows where there is a program files folder
[14:24] <rrofl> i have server version, am booting into command line
[14:24] <Scooma> PerryArmstrong, there are problems with hibernation
[14:24] <rrofl> no i mean what location is the launcher
[14:24] <ubilicios> Scooma:  Its not a memory issue
[14:24] <ActionParsnip> rrofl: the stuff apps use is scattered so it can be reused
[14:24] <Scooma> PerryArmstrong, it's a bug for quite a lot of systems still
[14:24] <usr13> corey: No, just alsamixer
[14:24] <PerryArmstrong> Scooma; you mean there's no solution yet?
[14:24] <Slart> ubilicios: well.. I doubt it's something in ubuntu.. I would check the web site more carefully.. perhaps it's really really unoptimized for anything non-IE
[14:24] <rrofl> how can i launch gnome from command line?
[14:24] <ActionParsnip> rrofl: launcher for what, can you please type my name at the start of lines if you are addressing me
[14:24] <Scooma> ubilicios, i mean allocate more memory to the vm to make it run faster
[14:24] <b4cchus> gdm?
[14:24] <ActionParsnip> rrofl: startx
[14:24] <Slart> ubilicios: but I'm just guessing.. I don't see anything suspicious
[14:24] <rrofl> actionparsnip ok will do
[14:24] <usr13> rrofl: gdm
[14:25] <ubilicios> Slart:  I know its not Ubuntu, my fedora client does it as well
[14:25] <rrofl> actionparsnip when i run startx it says i need to install xinit
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> rrofl: did you install ubuntu-server?
[14:25] <Scooma> PerryArmstrong, no there are solutions but ... quite a few hardware clients don't work... it's something to be addressed eventually...
[14:25] <rrofl> usr13 gdm is not found
[14:25] <ubilicios> Scooma:  VM is not even being used
[14:25] <werner-xfs> will i lose setuid by using cp and mv ?
[14:25] <rrofl> actionparsnip yes SERVER
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> rrofl: why?
[14:25] <PerryArmstrong> Scooma; ohh...thank you for the info
[14:25] <rrofl> actionparsnip cos i will be mainly using as a server, so didnt want to miss out on any server packages
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> rrofl: you are clearly a new ubuntu and/or linux user
[14:26] <PKodon> Okay, i can set Kopete up to join channels when I connect to an IRC account, can I do that in Pidgin?
[14:26] <rrofl> actionparsnip not new to linux
[14:26] <rrofl> actionparsnip just new to ubuntu
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> rrofl: you can install any and all server packkages on the desktop
[14:26] <rrofl> actionparsnip i thought it would save time to have it configure the server for me
[14:26] <Scooma> ubilicios,  sorry - I confused you with someone else
[14:26] <rrofl> actionparsnip i learned my lesson now lol
[14:26]  * ScottG489 is away: Gone away for now
[14:26] <Scooma> PerryArmstrong, but don't give up on ubuntu just because of that...
[14:27] <iixzzzzz> usr13 no not like pastebin. i wanna dump my systeminfo in a channel like are mirc addon.
[14:27] <ActionParsnip> rrofl: its just got no x server as a default to save usless junk like x apps being installed by default as well as PAE for ram management
[14:27] <iixzzzzz> show off etc.
[14:27] <PerryArmstrong> Scooma; so how save this error message....i need to see it without hibernating
[14:27] <dradus> Hi
[14:27] <dradus> wsup? :D
[14:27] <rrofl> actionparsnip: so is it now possible for me to install x server without the useless junk?
[14:27] <PerryArmstrong> Scooma; no way...i have been using ubuntu ince the past 8 months...and i am quite fascinated....
[14:28] <PerryArmstrong> Scooma; and i luv ubuntu..
[14:28] <ActionParsnip> rrofl: you can but it can get messy, also the server doesnt come with sound stuffs which will be nicely setup in the desktop for you
[14:28] <iixzzzzz> usr13 ?
[14:28] <PerryArmstrong> Scooma; i am trying to expertize myself on this distro
[14:28] <MasterZ> thanks for all the help everyone, my drives are formatting so I'm going to go get some sleep.. I'm sure 3 TB will not be a quick format job lol
[14:28] <Scooma> PerryArmstrong, it should be in one of your logs?
[14:28] <usr13> iixzzzzz: Yes, I see what you mean now, but don't know how to implement such a task.
[14:29] <Scooma> PerryArmstrong, all errors are logged in /var/log
[14:29] <ActionParsnip> MasterZ: can be if yuo use multiple systems ;)
[14:29] <rrofl> actionparsnip: ok, thanks, i really only wanted the LAMP but the equipment will be put to better use if I use the sound + media stuff too... so I'm gonna dload and install the desktop verion :)
[14:29] <iixzzzzz> usr13 i heard its infobash -v
[14:29] <rrofl> actionparsnip: thanks for your time :)
[14:29] <Scooma> PerryArmstrong,  you can access the logs (more easily) via  System -> Administration -> System Log
[14:30]  * Scooma is afk
[14:31] <PerryArmstrong> Scooma; i just checked it and i found that though i hibernated just a few minutes ago...it shows me as ubuntu restart
[14:31] <usr13> iixzzzzz: No help for infobash
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> !away | evanderv
[14:36] <donjuanluis07> hi guys need some help for a non-newbie
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> !ask | donjuanluis07
[14:37] <donjuanluis07> i am using HPLIP Fax Utility Address book and I cant get a vcf file to import to the address book
[14:38] <fxr> hullo, i am getting warnings/errors when apt0get installing nvidia-cg Toolkit --> http://paste.ubuntu.com/129784/ is anyone able to confirm they are just warnings in there or are they something to worry about?
[14:38] <usr13> donjuanluis07: Maybe the format is wrong?
[14:38] <tyler_d> how do you spawn a new terminal session from within a terminal?
[14:38] <kriss3d> uhmm whats the config file for kdm ? and where is it located ?
[14:39] <usr13> Ctrl-n
[14:39] <usr13> tyler_d: Ctrl-n
[14:39] <axisys> is there a ubuntu/deb pkg for linux citrix client http://www.citrix.com/English/SS/downloads/details.asp?downloadID=3323&productID=-1
[14:39] <mikerose357> Hi I've noticed directly editing xorg doesn't work like it did in older versions of fedora specifically adding the right resolution to metamodes doesn't work
[14:39] <tyler_d> usr13: using a command
[14:39] <skyred> How can I find "your network address in reverse notation" for DNS BIND9 setup?
[14:39] <mikerose357> using nvidias gui tool doesn't list any number of valid resolutions as usable so I'm stuck with a low resolution
[14:39] <usr13> tyler_d: gnome-terminal
[14:40] <eternal_p> hey all..is there an easy way in getting the new 64-bit java module loaded into firefox..I seem to be stuck with iceTea
[14:40] <tyler_d> usr13: and a default terminal session? ie. xterm?
[14:40] <apostle> what is a good PCI Express Network 1 Gigabit Card
[14:41] <usr13> tyler_d: Just give the command?  Not sure what  you mean?
[14:41] <erUSUL> apostle: i have a realtek 8169 and works ok
[14:41] <hatter243> !32
[14:41] <hatter243> !32bit
[14:41] <tyler_d> usr13: nope that worked.... ty
[14:41] <usr13> tyler_d: Ok, good....
[14:41] <mikerose357> anyone know how you are supposed to manually configure xorg in ubuntu 8.10?
[14:42] <apostle> erUSUL, it is PCI Express 1 gigabit ?
[14:42] <erUSUL> mikerose357: manually? you mean editting xorg.conf ?
[14:42] <usr13> mikerose357: xorgconfig -X
[14:42] <donjuanluis07> usr13, how can I reformat the vcf file?  I converted a csv file to vcard via this website http://homepage.mac.com/phrogz/CSV2vCard_v2.html  then imported it into Evolution then used the export of Evolution to the HPLIP
[14:42] <erUSUL> apostle: no just pci... i missed the express bit :| i'm sure there are pci express versions though
[14:43] <usr13> donjuanluis07: I don't know, never done that.... sorry
[14:43] <BeBoo_> is an intel xeon 64 bit?
[14:43] <apostle> erUSUL, cool will look into it
[14:43] <SpaceBass2> hey folks
[14:43] <SpaceBass2> having trouble getting the Cisco VPN client to compile on 8.10 - anyone had success ?
[14:43] <usr13> mikerose357: X -configure
[14:44] <erUSUL> BeBoo_: depends there are many versions of Xeon's
[14:44] <usr13> mikerose357: Not sure, but something like that.
[14:44] <donjuanluis07> great so im screwed basically
[14:44] <BeBoo_> erUSUL: easiest way to tell which version it is?
[14:44] <erUSUL> BeBoo_: do "grep --color " lm " | /proc/cpuinfo"
[14:45] <erUSUL> BeBoo_: do you see a red lm in the output ?
[14:45] <BeBoo_> i currently don't have *nix installed on it... it's win server 2k3 atm... i want to format and install ubuntu server but i need to know which to download... lol
[14:45] <BeBoo_> would you happen to know how to find it out in windows?
[14:45] <usr13> mikerose357: If you are just rying to recover from a missconfigured xorg.conf file, just delete it, xorg will creat a new one.
[14:45] <donjuanluis07> anybody used the HPLIP Fax Utility
[14:45] <QQQ> can I set the folder to install into with aptitude, too?
[14:46] <erUSUL> BeBoo_: use cpu-z ?
[14:46] <mikerose357> actually it apears that if I set it to any normal resolution nvidia just sets that monitor to off
[14:46] <erUSUL> BeBoo_: http://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php
[14:46] <BeBoo_> erUSUL: lemme try, one sec
[14:46] <mikerose357> so I'm stuck with garbage 1024 x 768
[14:46] <w30> My Compiz mouse button is set to rotate cube on middle button but it has universal focus. How can I set that so it only works when focused on a bate desktop area and not mess up paste when focused in a window of an editor or xterm for example?
[14:47] <w30> bate/bare
[14:47] <mikerose357> w30 I don't think thats just a misconfiguration I believe thats a bug its not set to rotate everywhere it just does due to buggy behavior I don't know what the fix is
[14:49] <usr13> mikerose357: xorgconfig is the manual command to configure the X server.
[14:49] <w30> mikerose357, my PClinuxOS setup works only on bare desktop so maybe I will will have to ask them how to do it.
[14:49] <donjuanluis07> if someone has not use the HPLIP Fax program then could someone send me to the right chat for it?
[14:49] <BeBoo_> erUSUL: now what am i looking for in here? I see EM64T under instructions
[14:49] <erUSUL> BeBoo_: then is 64 bits
[14:49] <BeBoo_> great, thanks for your help
[14:49] <usr13> mikerose357: I don't think that it is the nvidia card that is shutting the monitor off.  I think it is the monitor that is just not accepting out of range signal.
[14:50] <usr13> mikerose357: What is your monitor?
[14:50] <snowveil> every time I click my mouse, it actually double-clicks...and the sensitivity is up extremely high.  Does anyone have any idea why it might be doing this?
[14:50] <mikerose357> it is absolutely NOT out of range
[14:50] <bmbm> excuse me guys after hi all and how r u could upgrade from ubuntu 8.04 lts to 8.10 without formatting
[14:50] <bmbm> ?
[14:50] <corey> Is there a way to use wireshark to watch what websites people are accessing on my network?
[14:50] <mikerose357> my monitor displays up to 1920 x 1440
[14:50] <ubuntu__> hi morning
[14:51] <thiebaude> snowveil: i had that happen to my mouse i had to replace it
[14:51] <w30> mikerose357, my ubuntu dell laptop works kinda. You have to hold the mouse down a long click for the focus to stay in the editor or whatever paste reciept is.
[14:51] <corey> lo morning
[14:51] <donjuanluis07> usr13 could u plz send me to the right chat?
[14:51] <mikerose357> and the resolution I tried to set it to works in windows
[14:51] <usr13> !distupgrade
[14:51] <Viata> corey is it a home network?
[14:51] <erUSUL> !upgrade | bmbm
[14:51] <snowveil> thiebaude, it's doing the same thing with a few different mice
[14:51] <corey> viata: No, I am an employer
[14:51] <erUSUL> corey: wireshark seems overkill
[14:51] <usr13> donjuanluis07: Sorry, I just don't know.
[14:51] <snowveil> I have 2 connected now and they're both causing the same problem
[14:51] <bmbm> thx very much erusul
[14:52] <corey> erUSUL: what would you use?
[14:52] <m3gaman> donjuanluis07:: have you tried searching the HPLIP knowledge base
[14:52] <erUSUL> !info ntop | corey
[14:53] <donjuanluis07> yep and no help or info on the address book feature and I have a 1400+ contact file that I have to use
[14:53] <usr13> mikerose357: What is your monitor?  What is your dsiplay adapter?  What video driver are you using?
[14:53] <invalid> !ot > invalid
[14:53] <donjuanluis07> if my vcf file is wrong format I will change it I just need to know what format to put it into
[14:53] <tom_eats_lives> I want to stop wireless coming on by default on gnome-network manager how i do this ?
[14:53] <m3gaman> donjuanluis07:: try google groups or something?
[14:53] <donjuanluis07> ?
[14:54] <donjuanluis07> dont know google groups
[14:54] <cheeser> how do I get ubunto to boot in to runlevel 3?  i don't want X running as i'm thinking of running this on a server.
[14:54] <cheeser> erm, ubuntu  8^)=
[14:54] <m3gaman> groups.google.com
[14:54] <donjuanluis07> k thnks
[14:54] <thiebaude> snowveil: maybe check the mouse settings
[14:55] <usr13> mikerose357: Do you have an xorg.conf file?
[14:55] <Pici> cheeser: runlevels on Ubuntu/debian do not work like other distributions. If you don't want X running, remove it from startup: sudo update-rc.d gdm remove
[14:55] <mikerose357> usr13 monitor is an IBM crt, graphics is 8600M GT driver is 180 binary nvidia
[14:55] <cheeser> Pici: oh, right.  i was going to try that yesterday and got sidetracked.  thanks.  i'll try that.
[14:55] <theonelostmodder> hello all can i ask for help here
[14:55] <mikerose357> I'll Pastbin the xorg.conf
[14:55] <snowveil> thiebaude, for some reason it never opens properly
[14:55] <pirx_> hi! when downloading server edition 64bit, the image is called amd64. Is this somehow specific to AMD cpus?
[14:56] <theonelostmodder> im having problems watching movies using the movie player on ubuntu8.10
[14:56] <usr13> mikerose357: What screen size do you want to use?
[14:57] <tom_eats_lives> theonelostmodder,  whats the problem ?
[14:57] <dze1> anyone used bonnie++ for benchmarking
[14:57] <QQQ> Could I install Apps and move them via C&P on myy external drive and than make simbolic links? (what happens if the drive is not connected?)
[14:57] <theonelostmodder> umm its a 26 inch so probably 1240x800
[14:57] <ArcSighter> ikonia: ok , no news?
[14:57] <mikerose357> 1600x1200
[14:57] <Picassotamus> mikerose357: i believe someone had a similar issue to you yesterday, and they had a line to ~/xprofile or something
[14:57] <ikonia> ArcSighter: just a little busy at the moment
[14:57] <thiebaude> snowveil: system>preferences>mouse>general>pointer speed>senssitivity
[14:57] <mikerose357> xorg.conf is at http://pastebin.com/m22c19ac9
[14:57] <QQQ> (thats what I did to my 2GB Win-XP partition)
[14:57] <snowveil> thiebaude, the Mouse window never opens for me
[14:57] <snowveil> not sure why
[14:58] <w30> pirx_, Intel licenses the amd x86+86 arch. from amd.
[14:58] <snowveil> the mouse worked fine yesterday, but after a reboot it started acting crazy...every click is a double click
[14:58] <snowveil> it seems to me like it's recognizing every event coming from the mouse twice
[14:58] <thiebaude> snowveil: i'm not sure how you fix it
[14:58] <bujar> hello i tried to install cnet, the "make" and "sudo make install" commands didnt show any errors, but now when i type "cnet" i still get " unknown command" . HELP!!!
[14:58] <theonelostmodder> question for ne one - i have my laptop hooked up to my tv. Vizio 26 inch lcd 1080i and when i try to play a movie or other video file it wont show uo in the player on the tv just shows a black screen
[14:58] <w30> pirx_, so it's a dig against Intel by the Linux guyes *smile*
[14:59] <theonelostmodder> *up
[14:59] <ArcSighter> ikonia: ok, let me know when you're up to it
[14:59] <slerder> Hey guys. Does anyone know how to create an NTFS partition in ubuntu. I tried to use Gparted but the NTFS option is greyed out. Thanks
[14:59] <mikerose357> snowveil that sounds like a hardware issue
[14:59] <PerryArmstrong> can anyone tell me the command used to view the users existing on a system
[14:59] <mikerose357> I had the same issue with my mouse , the button was wearing out
[14:59] <Picassotamus> slerder: Do you have the ntfs-3g package installed?
[14:59] <snowveil> I've tried two different mice though mikerose357, both are doing the same thing
[15:00] <donjuanluis07> usr13 m3gaman: thnks for help googlegroups no help Im trying #linux channel
[15:00] <jtaji> slerder: install ntfsprogs, then all ntfs operations will work in gparted
[15:00] <genii> slerder: From a livecd you need package installed which first supports the fs or so you are trying to partition/format for. So ntfs-progs
[15:00] <slerder> picasso and jataji thanks ill look into that
[15:00] <Kartagis> I get libglib2.0-dev: Depends: libglib2.0-0 (= 2.18.2-0ubuntu1) but 2.18.2-0ubuntu2 is to be installed. what to do?
[15:00] <slerder> genni thanks
[15:00] <theonelostmodder> question for ne one - i have my laptop hooked up to my tv. Vizio 26 inch lcd 1080i and when i try to play a movie or other video file it wont show uo in the player on the tv just shows a black screen. what could the problem be? everything else shows up but the video on the tv in the movie player help plz thanks.
[15:00] <bujar> hello i tried to install cnet, the "make" and "sudo make install" commands didnt show any errors, but now when i type "cnet" i still get " unknown command" . HELP!!! im running the update manager, could that be the reason why the cnet command is still unknown to the console?
[15:00] <Picassotamus> slerder: what is the diff between ntfs-3g and ntfs-progs?
[15:01] <w30> slerder, there is special applications for ntfs file systems in the repos. Have you got those installed. that might help.seardh ntfs in the synaptic app.
[15:01] <theonelostmodder> question for ne one - i have my laptop hooked up to my tv. Vizio 26 inch lcd 1080i and when i try to play a movie or other video file it wont show uo in the player on the tv just shows a black screen. what could the problem be? everything else shows up but the video on the tv in the movie player help plz thanks.
[15:01] <luca> i have insallet kubuntu-desktop.. and now i can use kde.. but i saw its the old version so i installed kubuntu4-desktop
[15:01] <luca> how can i remove kubnutu-desktop?
[15:01]  * ScottG489 is away: Gone away for now
[15:02] <theonelostmodder> no one?
[15:02] <PerryArmstrong> can anyone tell me the command used to view the users existing on a system
[15:02] <luca> i tryed sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop but it didnt work
[15:02] <usr13> mikerose357: Is 1600x1200  an acceptable screen size?
[15:03] <w30> luca, kubuntu 8.10 has KDE4. Would you consider installing that?
[15:03] <Germanaz0> #jdownloader
[15:03] <catnap> I have a great development idea
[15:03] <theonelostmodder> question for ne one - i have my laptop hooked up to my tv. Vizio 26 inch lcd 1080i and when i try to play a movie or other video file it wont show uo in the player on the tv just shows a black screen. what could the problem be? everything else shows up but the video on the tv in the movie player help plz thanks.
[15:03] <catnap> is there some sort of development channel?
[15:04] <m3gaman> man will you people stop posting the same thing over and over again...give it time...someone will naswer
[15:04] <munichlinux> has someone fixed the firefox dsp issue? (Firefox holding up the /dev/dsp)
[15:04] <theonelostmodder> sorry m3gaman
[15:04] <luca> w30: i installed ubuntu.. and use gnome but i installed the packet kubuntu-desktop that i can choose between the enviroments
[15:04] <slerder> jtaji and genii thanks it worked great. Now I have another problem though. When i try to create a new partition it says It is not possible to create more than 4 primary partitions. What should i do? is there some way i can change some partitions to not primary (logical) all the partitions i have on that drive are only for media files. thanks
[15:04] <thiebaude> luca: yes
[15:04] <KewliOO> can someone help me
[15:04] <luca> w30: then i realised that kubuntu-desktop is the 3.5 version of kde
[15:04] <m3gaman> no need to be sorry...I just don't understand why people can't have some patients...
[15:04] <PerryArmstrong> can anyone explain me the difference between 'who' and 'who am i' commands
[15:05] <thiebaude> at the log in prompt choose sessions
[15:05] <theonelostmodder> im an impatient person
[15:05] <luca> so i decided to install kubuntu4-deskotp .. thats the new version and i want to remove the old version
[15:05] <jtaji> slerder: if you already have 4 primaries, you'll need to delete one, and then you can put one or more logicals in that space
[15:05] <m3gaman> then hit google and figure out the answer for your self
[15:05] <luca> w30: do you understand what i mean?
[15:05] <theonelostmodder> i am while i wait
[15:05] <theonelostmodder> hoping to find the answer
[15:06] <slerder> jtaji, but cant i just change a parition from primary to logical?
[15:06] <jtaji> slerder: unforutnately no
[15:06] <m3gaman> theonelostmodder:: great...then there is no need to ask again in here
[15:06] <KewliOO> can someone tell me how to get into the GUI of Ubuntu 8.10....All it shows wheh it boots is " GRUB>
[15:06] <theonelostmodder> :P
[15:06] <KewliOO> ??
[15:07] <slerder> jtaji.. mm that seems absurd. I think ill just use acronis disk director for windows then...Im pretty sure i can use that
[15:07] <theonelostmodder> if u know the answer u could just tell me
[15:07] <Scunizi> KewliOO: do you have more than one drive in your machine?
[15:07] <w30> luca, gotcha, but I am afraid I can't help on that one except to say removing KDE3 is complicated because it affects so much other stuff.
[15:07] <KewliOO> yes
[15:07] <m3gaman> theonelostmodder:: yeah and if I did I would have told you...just like im sure if someone else knew the answer they would have let you know...
[15:07] <Scunizi> KewliOO: Grub is the bootloader and didn't install correctly or on the right drive.. I'll have ubottu give you a link
[15:07] <KewliOO> I have 3 Hard drives and one cd-R/dvdrom
[15:07] <Scunizi> !grub | KewliOO
[15:08] <snowveil> theonelostmodder, have you tried playing it back on your standard monitor?
[15:08] <snowveil> are you sure you have the right video codecs?
[15:08] <luca> w30: ah okey thats the problem ;) i tryed just to remove kubuntu-desktop but then saw that it didnt work;) but no porlbem will find it out =)
[15:08] <luca> thanks
[15:08] <KewliOO> Thank you alot
[15:08] <Scunizi> KewliOO: np
[15:09] <snowveil> theonelostmodder, try playing it back in VLC, see if it will work there...if so you need the right video decoder, if not I don't know
[15:09] <Lindsay2009> hi - i have found a replacement DVD rom drive for my ubuntu machine, and i'm wondering if it works perfectly, could i use it to read my NTFS dvd-rs
[15:09] <theonelostmodder> k ty snow ill try. it works on the laptop screen just not on the tv thru the rgb (vga) connection
[15:10] <Scunizi> Lindsay2009: the proof is when you try it and it works..
[15:10] <snowveil> if it works on the laptop screen that's probably not the issue theonelostmodder
[15:10] <QQQ> Lindsay2009 why dont you try it?
[15:10] <sim-value> what an NTFS DVD rs ?
[15:10] <QQQ> ^^
[15:10] <Lindsay2009> NTFS Is a windows file format
[15:10] <Lindsay2009> and dvd-r is a burnt dvdrom disc
[15:10] <sim-value> actually filesystem
[15:10] <sim-value> ajep..
[15:10] <jtaji> Lindsay2009: there is no such thing as NTFS formatted optical discs, but yes you will be able to read any format used on DVDs
[15:10] <snowveil> Lindsay2009 , the dvds won't be ntfs
[15:10] <Scunizi> but to combine ntft and dvd is not correct
[15:11] <mikerose357> ok another question, some programs if I try to start them from konsole like so "sudo kate" tell me command not found
[15:11] <mikerose357> and yet just "kate" works fine
[15:11] <theonelostmodder> ok ill try to gogle the issue as no one here has the answer. if all else fails theres alwasy google
[15:11] <theonelostmodder> *always
[15:11] <Lindsay2009> jtaji - k. but i do need any additional tools to access my data files from the disc?
[15:11] <sim-value> and if you use su ...
[15:11] <sim-value> ?
[15:11] <Scunizi> mikerose357: you should start graphic programs with gksudo not sudo
[15:11] <mikerose357> su doens't even fundtion
[15:11] <sim-value> ?
[15:12] <jtaji> Lindsay2009: nope
[15:12] <Lindsay2009> alright. thank you.
[15:12] <PKodon> Umm, when you say "it's the old version", are you talking about it being KDE 3.x?
[15:12] <Scunizi> mikerose357: su is not a function in ubuntu unless you do some hacking
[15:12] <JarG0n> where is the pastebin for this channel?
[15:12] <JarG0n> !pastebin
[15:12] <erUSUL> Lindsay2009: dvdr use iso9669 or udf not ntfs that's for hard drives
[15:12] <JarG0n> ah
[15:12] <bogey> hi, I removed wpasupplicant
[15:12] <Lindsay2009> erUSL - thank you for info
[15:12] <Scunizi> JarG0n: or you can use any pastebin service.. pastebin.com etc
[15:12] <Lindsay2009> wasn't sure
[15:12] <bogey> The following packages will be REMOVED: network-manager network-manager-gnome ubuntu-desktop wpasupplicant
[15:12] <bogey> why it removes network totally
[15:12] <Lindsay2009> my old dvd-rom had hard time reading anything
[15:12] <bogey> I don't need wlan thingys
[15:13] <Lindsay2009> wouldn't read dvd-rs and barely played dvds
[15:13] <mikerose357> ok thanks gksudo works, I was used to using kdesu for graphical apps but that doesn't work either
[15:13] <PKodon> Ack! Sorry, for some reason the channel was scrolled back, I was answering someone who asked a question a long time ago.
[15:13] <JarG0n> I just ran chkrootkit, and it found the following.  Would this have been caused by installing Wireshark?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/129794/
[15:13] <bogey> need to plugin keyboard to fix my network :P
[15:13] <Scunizi> mikerose357: are you on gnome running kde aps or kde running kde aps?
[15:14] <mikerose357> on kde
[15:14] <Lindsay2009> well thank you all for your help
[15:14] <Lindsay2009> take care
[15:14] <Scunizi> mikerose357: weird that kdesu doesn't work
[15:14] <mikerose357> kde 3.5 I'm waiting for 4 to someday stop sucking
[15:15] <Scunizi> mikerose357: 4.2 is looking good
[15:15] <JarG0n> anyone? :)
[15:15] <mikerose357> great I can't believe that labeled an alpha release 4.0 heh
[15:15] <usr13> bogey: What is your issue?  (What problem are you trying to solve?)
[15:16] <Scunizi> JarG0n: probably is wireshark.. you can always uninstall wireshark and check again as a comparison..
[15:16] <sipior> JarG0n: is the interface still in promiscuous mode?
[15:17] <javb> what's the directory of the trash in Ubuntu 8.04 - the Hardy Heron - released in April 2008 ? I need to empty it via CLI !			
[15:17] <JarG0n> Scunizi> I did uninstall.  Should that still be there ?
[15:17] <JarG0n> sipior> not sure, how do I check?
[15:17] <w30> Whe does one get those long gibish names for partitions for cat /etc/fstab
[15:17] <Scunizi> !trash | javb
[15:17] <sipior> JarG0n: ifconfig will show it
[15:18] <JarG0n> sipior> what indicates promiscuous mode on eth0 ?
[15:18] <Scunizi> JarG0n: not sure if the config files etc left behind make a difference or not.
[15:18] <JarG0n> Scunizi> I thought that might be the case.
[15:18] <sipior> JarG0n: "PROMISC"
[15:19] <Picassotamus> !fstab > w30
[15:19] <JarG0n> sipior> Nope.  I don't see that anywhere.  Thx sir :)
[15:19] <JarG0n> sipior> Scunizi> I've ran two rootkit detectors.  It's good to know you don't have a rootkit installed. :D
[15:22] <w30> Picassotamus, thank you very much.
[15:22] <CosmiChaos> Does somebody know how to enable nautilus to create thumbnails for mpeg and x264??? I have it working for xvid, all unstripped packages and thumbnailers installed. Please help.
[15:22] <Picassotamus> w30: np yw
[15:24] <Scunizi> JarG0n: how did you start chrootkit? I just installed
[15:24] <JarG0n> sudo chrootkit
[15:24] <Scunizi> ah. thanks
[15:24] <sipior> JarG0n: might be worth digging through the rootkit detection scripts, and see precisely what test is returning that result. it should then be pretty clear where it thinks the problem is.
[15:25] <Scunizi> JarG0n: "chkrootkit".. I keep forgetting the "k" in the name
[15:25] <JarG0n> Scunizi> I did that too.  Also install Rootkit Hunter from package rkhunter.  It seems to be more comprehensive.
[15:26] <Achoth> Hello. I'm installing Mumble server on my Ubuntu Server 8.10. I need an application that is able to send simple mails. Is it a complicatied process to make a server able to send mails?
[15:26] <CosmiChaos> Does somebody know how to enable nautilus to create thumbnails for mpeg and x264??? I have it working for xvid, all unstripped packages and thumbnailers installed. Please help.
[15:26] <storbeck> Achoth: sendmail
[15:27] <rhousand> is there a command like chkconfig --list for ubuntu?
[15:27] <JarG0n> sipior> I did.  I think I pasted the test in pastebin, which shows it was searching for possible sniffers.
[15:27] <laic> Hi, can somebody shed some light on hardware.  I plan to build a desktop for editing some HDV probably using Kino and Cinelerra which I have minimum experience on my present system running 8.04 on 32 bit with 1GB of RAM, a system I built 7 or 8 years ago.  THANKS.
[15:28] <Achoth> storbeck: Is it as simple as apt-get install sendmail?
[15:28] <sipior> JarG0n: i meant: what precise code is being executed to determine the presence of a sniffer. there are a number of possibilities, and an inspection of the source code would reveal what's going on.
[15:28] <usr13> rhousand: There is a gui: services-admin
[15:28] <JarG0n> sipior> I see
[15:29] <rhousand> usr13,  yea, I was looking for a command line option. :(
[15:29] <Achoth> storbeck: Well, I'll try it, thanks :)
[15:31] <storbeck> rhousand: sudo apt-get install chkconfig
[15:31] <Kuukkeli^> hmmmh, steam keeps freezing on "Logging to steam account"
[15:31] <rhousand> ez as can be
[15:31] <CosmiChaos> Does somebody know how to enable nautilus to create thumbnails for mpeg and x264??? I have it working for xvid, all unstripped packages and thumbnailers installed. Please help.
[15:32] <storbeck> yep :)
[15:32] <HanzZ> hi, is it possible to install package from proposed repository without adding it? I need to do it in one command
[15:32] <storbeck> Kuukkeli^: /join #wine
[15:32] <HanzZ> I think I can't do it, but I want to ask
[15:33] <storbeck> HanzZ: I suppose you could wget the package, then dpkg install it
[15:33] <mikevankuik> erUSUL: can you help me with a thingy? I want a user to autologin on a machine but I only have ssh access... I did it before but I can't remember how :P
[15:33] <storbeck> mikevankuik: use ssh keys
[15:33] <gerryxiao0> hello
[15:34] <bening> anyone knows how to view wmf file on ubuntu?
[15:34] <erUSUL> mikevankuik: i do not know how to do it either.... something on the gdm config perhaps
[15:34] <mikevankuik> storbeck: ? how do you mean? I'm not sure
[15:34] <erUSUL> !w32codecs | bening
[15:34] <mikevankuik> erUSUL: yeah... there is some file I should edit I think... but not sure witch :P
[15:34] <storbeck> mikevankuik: ssh-keygen, install the key, then copy the key to an ~/.ssh server
[15:34] <bening> anyone knows how to view wmf image on ubuntu?
[15:34] <usr13> rhousand: I guess in distros other than RH / Fedora, you just work with the executible bits on the scripts.  In other words, you just chmod -x or chomd +x to the actual scripts, (mostly in /etc/init.d/ )  Someone correct me as needed....
[15:34] <bhsx> i've been having some locking/freezing issues in 8.10, newly installed and updated, haven't even installed codecs yet...  with ati x300 se
[15:35] <bhsx> has the latest update caused hanging issues for anyone?
[15:35] <bhsx> this never happenned before, i updated my box and it started freezing up...
[15:35] <csarven> If a typeface supports a particular Unicode characters does the text rendering still default to DejaVu because of the Pango library?
[15:36] <bhsx> i could SSH into it and initiate a reboot, and it would kick me out of ssh but hang on the reboot
[15:36] <bhsx> and not complete it
[15:36] <bhsx> any ideas?
[15:36] <usr13> rhousand: And to see what is running or not, just ls -l /etc/init.d/
[15:36] <milda_> hi, I lost my eth0 connection in ubuntu 8.10 - it's not in control pannel next clock .. and i can't connect the internet now - i haven't any control :( can somebody help me ?
[15:36] <storbeck> bhsx: Run it in a screen
[15:36] <mikevankuik> storbeck: but I have access on the machine (via sftp its possible to access the machine too just nog via vnc but that is solved as soon as I have the user autologed in)
[15:36] <bhsx> run what in a screen?
[15:36] <rhousand> \j #mysql
[15:37] <storbeck> Yes mikevankuik All you need to do is copy over your ~/.ssh folder to the server. You can do it with sftp :)
[15:37] <CosmiChaos> Does somebody know how to enable nautilus to create thumbnails for mpeg and x264??? I have it working for xvid, all unstripped packages and thumbnailers installed. Please help.
[15:37] <sipior> mikevankuik: the file you want is /etc/gdm/gdm.conf, i think. pay attention to the comments, though, as it is autogenerated :-) alternatively, you can forward an X session with ssh -X, and run the configurator that way.
[15:37] <rhousand> haha opps!
[15:37] <corey> can wireshark be used to see what my employees are viewing on the internet?
[15:37] <storbeck> Oh, you're trying to auto-login to gdm?
[15:37] <storbeck> I thought you meant auto-login to ssh
[15:37] <bhsx> storbeck, what do you mean run it in a screen?
[15:37] <storbeck> bhsx: Open up a screen session, then run the command inside screen
[15:37] <rhousand> corey, squid is a better way of doing that
[15:38] <bhsx> ?  i'm talking about 8.10 crashing....    i don't understand why screen would have anything to do with it?
[15:38] <mikevankuik> sipior cool tx :) I'll have a look
[15:38] <donjuanluis07> usr13: not getting any help, do you know someone that edits vcf files?
[15:38] <usr13> rhousand: I found   update-rc.d
[15:39] <storbeck> bhsx: After it kicks you out, you can log back in, and re-attach yourself to the screen session, and see what's going on
[15:39] <rhousand> corey, there are even perl scripts that will go through your log files and do reporting
[15:39] <usr13> donjuanluis07: Just a sec.  I'll see
[15:39] <rhousand> usr13, I have installed chkconfig via apt-get. it works great
[15:39] <usr13> rhousand: update-rc.d - install and remove System-V style init script links
[15:39] <rhousand> usr13, thanks though
[15:39] <donjuanluis07> dude i appreciate it
[15:40] <gherghout> j'ai kubuntu 8.10 et je veux installer ubuntuME mais j'ai pas réussit pouvez vous m'aidez ?
[15:40] <Scunizi> storbeck: not if you're initiating a reboot of the machine via ssh like bhsx is saying.. the screen session would terminate on reboot
[15:40] <donjuanluis07> having the worst time with this first time I have had a problem this bad with linux
[15:40] <usr13> rhousand: Ok, cool...  update-rc.d  may be the backend to it... but yea, that's good to know because chkconfig is good tool
[15:40] <bhsx> thank you
[15:40] <Scunizi> np
[15:41] <TheAngel_> yes tether works _O_
[15:41] <gherghout>  i have kubuntu8.10 and i want install ubuntuME but i can't can you help me to do that  please
[15:41] <storbeck> Scunizi: His reboot is hanging though, so I don't think it would close out screen
[15:41] <bhsx> so i'm the only one?  boo hoo
[15:41] <BeBoo_> anyone know if you can configure a raid from the ubuntu installer? I have an hp server and i need to adjust the raid before i install
[15:41] <Scunizi> storbeck: depends on if it hangs on the shutdown side or the boot side.. > bhsx
[15:41] <bhsx> prolly just a matter of turning off my "effects" again... but they shouldn't be on by default if they're gonna cause crashing issues
[15:42] <presshere> any recommended firewalls for ubuntu?
[15:42] <Scunizi> bhsx: metacity --replace?
[15:42] <yggdrasil> hello can somone recomend a linux supported video capture card  (s-video)?
[15:42] <Scunizi> bhsx: instead of a full reboot how 'bout just doing a gdm reboot.. sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[15:42] <sim-value> !virtualhost
[15:42] <corey> rhousand: squid? I am more interested in using wireshark regardless of what is better. All I have to do is find logs that use the dns protocol and type the destination IP in my web browser correct?
[15:43] <BeBoo_> yggdrasil: many of the hauppauge series
[15:43] <bhsx> i tried that.. didn't do anything
[15:43] <Scunizi> bhsx: then screen would be usefull
[15:43] <presshere> !firewall
[15:43] <ubuntistas> where can i find gimp as a deb file?
[15:43] <ubuntistas> any clue?
[15:43] <Scunizi> bhsx: change the driver to vesa?
[15:43] <sim-value> packages.ubuntu.com
[15:43] <bhsx> that's weak though....
[15:43] <bhsx> i have the card, i should be able to use it
[15:44] <bhsx> it's disappointing...
[15:44] <Scunizi> bhsx: is the driver one that ubuntu supplied or one that you installed from ati's site?
[15:44] <emperorcezar> Is there any possible way to install flash 9 plugin on 8.10 64 bit? Synaptic only has 10 and the it's just too unstable.
[15:44] <bhsx> it's a fresh install.... so it's the ubuntu one.... although, i reinstalled because of the initial freezing issue, and that was with ATI drivers
[15:45] <luis_lopez> hi SevillaElisa
[15:45] <presshere> can anyone help me to turn off IPv6 pls?
[15:45] <corey> rhousand: squid? I am more interested in using wireshark regardless of what is better. All I have to do is find logs that use the dns protocol and type the destination IP in my web browser correct?
[15:45] <bhsx> and the pc doesn't freeze in XP....
[15:45] <bhsx> no hardware issues...
[15:45] <sim-value> Which card do you have =
[15:45] <tinto> i wish to promote the use of ubuntu in my campus is there any documentation or howto to help me through?
[15:45] <sim-value> Ati sucks for Drivers btw ...
[15:45] <bhsx> yes it does
[15:45] <bhsx> but it's what i have
[15:46] <sim-value> What card ?
[15:46] <bhsx> ati radeon x300 se
[15:46] <bhsx> "stock" gateway 700GR
[15:46] <usr13> donjuanluis07: So we need to convert cvs to vcf ?  Right? Wrong?
[15:46] <bhsx> 5 years old... should be WELL supported
[15:46] <sim-value> shouldnt the Opensource driver have 3D accel =
[15:46] <sim-value> ?
[15:47] <donjuanluis07> csv to vcf yes!
[15:47] <Bacta> How can I make my Ubuntu look like MacOS?
[15:47] <sim-value> Mac4Lin
[15:47] <usr13> And from where do you get the csv file?
[15:47] <donjuanluis07> i used http://homepage.mac.com/phrogz/CSV2vCard_v2.html but no luck
[15:47] <mohanohi> hi
[15:47] <bhsx> right now i'm using the open source drivers and yes, they have accel
[15:47] <donjuanluis07> I got it from openoffice
[15:47] <sim-value> so .... ?
[15:47] <bhsx> i haven't even installed the "restricted" drivers yet
[15:47] <donjuanluis07> i saved a ods to csv text
[15:48] <donjuanluis07> like the web address told me to
[15:48] <usr13> donjuanluis07: So you are creating the cvs file with OO ?  Your doing it yourself?
[15:48] <bhsx> sim, i'm talking about a hard crash/freeze issue, i'm not complaining that i dont have 3d accel....
[15:48] <mohanohi> I am unable to mount USB Drive in ubuntu 8.10. It showing Cannot mount volume. You are not privileged to mount this volume.
[15:48] <usr13> donjuanluis07: Well, what about this?:  http://freshmeat.net/projects/vcard/
[15:48] <sim-value> I thought you had that with the Restricted one
[15:49] <mohanohi> pls anybody help me..
[15:49] <bhsx> i had the issue with the "ATI" supplied catalyst drivers... i reinstalled just on a whim, updated, and it froze again
[15:49] <Bacta> sudo su first
[15:49] <rhousand> corey, it can be done. but the pcap files are very large and you will have to dig through the logs your self. We did that for a wile but we have a lot of users and use thin clients so it looks like everyone connects from the server. now i have user based  acl and a perl script which converts our logs. so, the answer is yes you can use wire shark.
[15:49] <Bacta> before mounting
[15:49] <bhsx> so it's not the drivers, it's the update
[15:49] <n8tuserf> mohanohi-> use sudo
[15:49] <mohanohi> ok.. then..
[15:50] <Bacta> Ubuntu is ghey in that regard
[15:50] <sipior> corey: in principle. but how are you going to deal with the fact that most viewed web pages pull images (for adverts and the like) from multiple other locations? even a small amount of web use is likely to generate quite a few addresses to check. and if you're planning on using this information against an employee (which is what it sounds like you're asking), you'd best be quite sure you understand what you're doing, lest you accuse an innocent.
[15:50] <tinto> mohanohi, sudo mount /media/usbname
[15:51] <usr13> donjuanluis07: apt-cache search vcard reports:  "2vcard - perl script to convert an addressbook to VCARD file format"
[15:51] <donjuanluis07> k how am i supposed to use this, its just a tar with a vcf file in it
[15:51] <Bacta> And this ladies and gents is why Ubuntu is still not ready for the everyday user
[15:51] <Chousuke> I still think mounting external drives should be made easier
[15:51] <pavs> can't wait for Chrome to make linux port of the browser. I freaking love it.
[15:51] <mohanohi> ok.. but how can i permanently set permission for my account to do mount?
[15:51] <Chousuke> Bacta: meh
[15:51] <Bacta> Chousuke: Absolutely!
[15:51] <tinto> Bacta, who says?
[15:51] <invalid> mohanohi, use fstab
[15:51] <Chousuke> Bacta: most of the time gnome automounts USB drives just fine
[15:51] <n8tuserf> Chousuke-> if you learned to use udev rules, then those can be automated!
[15:52] <invalid> err - maybe not
[15:52] <Bacta> what kind of a beginner wants to see a terminal? It's rubbish
[15:52] <Chousuke> n8tuserf: yeah. that's not simple :P
[15:52] <mohanohi> hmmm. i am a noob for ubuntu.. what is fstab
[15:52] <Picassotamus> !fstab
[15:52] <n8tuserf> Chousuke-> correct and i wish it could be better
[15:52] <Bacta> There we go again
[15:52] <Chousuke> n8tuserf: there should be a simple GUI for setting up removable device properties somewhere.
[15:52] <Bacta> Why must a noob know about fstab? :P
[15:52] <vlady> help please
[15:52] <sipior> Bacta: well what are you planning on doing to fix it?
[15:52] <vlady> i can't install postgresql-8.3.6-1-linux-x64.bin
[15:52] <Scunizi> Bacta: because he's learning?
[15:52] <tinto> mohanohi, you can changes privilages for users form system>administration>users and group
[15:52] <Bacta> sipior: Complaining until my C skills are decent
[15:52] <Chousuke> like "mount this drive automatically when you see it and give users A, B and C access to it"
[15:53] <mohanohi> ok ok.. thank you i will try..
[15:53] <Kuukkeli^> storbeck: it's invite only channel. the #wine
[15:53] <sipior> Bacta: get back to studying, then :-)
[15:53] <Chousuke> Bacta: again, gnome still automounts most things just fine.
[15:53] <Bacta> We seriously need a Steve Jobs
[15:53] <Chousuke> Bacta: it just could be even easier
[15:53] <mohanohi> yes.. it was mounting previously automatically i double click on it..
[15:53] <Bacta> who will yell and scream at everyone
[15:53] <Bacta> yet will make things work for the user
[15:53] <mohanohi> now it shows dont have permission...
[15:53] <donjuanluis07> usr13: what am I supposed to do
[15:54] <sipior> Bacta: screaming at volunteers tends to make them ignore you
[15:54] <tinto> mohanohi, are you in sudoers file?
[15:54] <wers> how do I name partitions with Ubuntu? the os x installer allowed me to name my os x partition while my linux partitions are unnamed
[15:54] <Bacta> sipior: I guess what I meant was an evangelist like Jobs
[15:54] <mohanohi> hmm what is sudoers file?
[15:54] <Kuukkeli^> Hello, my steam keeps freezing, could someone recommend me a fix to this? Freezes at "connecting to steam account" part
[15:55] <Scunizi> wers: you can do that with gparted if you want.. or if you're more adventurous use fdisk
[15:55] <tinto> mohanohi, you first do some study
[15:55] <Kuukkeli^> too bad wine is Invite only
[15:55] <usr13> donjuanluis07: apt-get install 2vcard
[15:55] <mohanohi> ok.. i will tinto..
[15:55] <mohanohi> sorry if i am bothering..
[15:55] <wers> Scunizi, thanks
[15:55] <Scunizi> wers: np
[15:55] <aspoor> I hacked Renegade with HEX
[15:56] <Bacta> mohanohi: You're not bothering anyone. There are people who know how to do what you want done but they're too high up on their high horses to give you a straight answer
[15:56] <Chousuke> Kuukkeli^: tried #winehq?
[15:56] <aspoor> not sappose to.
[15:56] <tinto> Bacta, i think its not so
[15:56] <Kuukkeli^> Chousuke, not yet, testing now.
[15:56] <mohanohi> yes i understand..
[15:56] <Scunizi> !cc
[15:57] <mohanohi> i should first learn..
[15:57] <Bacta> It's quite sad when you go into a channel having spent ages trying to get something to work and then be told to go somewhere by some bot or told to do "study" by someone who knows clearly what you must do
[15:57] <Picassotamus> Bacta: i don't think thats accurate or appropriate
[15:57] <Chousuke> Bacta: you should not make such remarks.
[15:57] <Scunizi> !conduct | Bacta
[15:57] <gnu_d> Hi, Nautilus crashes after update to Ibex
[15:57] <Bacta> *sigh* perhaps I just have a different view of the "user" than everybody else
[15:57] <gnu_d> this gives me dmesg> [10413.365865] nautilus[20292]: segfault at 72656854 ip b764d1ae sp b676a030 error 4 in libgio-2.0.so.0.1800.2[b762c000+65000]
[15:57] <phiberoptik> hi
[15:57] <Chousuke> Bacta: no you don't.
[15:57] <Chousuke> Bacta: I know what mohanohi needs to do but frankly I am not certain I can give him proper advice.
[15:57] <phiberoptik> ubuntu french?
[15:58] <quibbler> !fr
[15:58] <Scunizi> Bacta: it wasn't the user you were making comments about, it's the volunteers helping new users.
[15:58] <sipior> Bacta: were you planning on helping at some point? or just doing the emo thing for a while?
[15:58] <aspoor> release renew the lib set
[15:58] <Chousuke> Bacta: the way I do things might not be the easiest to understand, you see.
[15:58] <Chousuke> Bacta: I'm not a gnome expert.
[15:58] <Bacta> Ok, sorry
[15:58] <aspoor> sudo make uninstall
[15:58] <aspoor> sudo make unload
[15:58] <donjuanluis07> usr13: working on it
[15:58] <usr13> Good luck.
[15:59] <Bacta> Perhaps I'm venting over things I've seen here in the past. People coming to Ubuntu often don't want to have to learn about configuration files etc. they just want something that helps them do their work
[15:59] <Chousuke> Bacta: that's a problem
[15:59] <mohanohi> as reading about fstab, its actually is for partition of drives on booting configuration files right? But i am talking about pen drive here..
[15:59] <Chousuke> Bacta: when you use a new system, you SHOULD want to learn how it works.
[15:59] <Chousuke> Bacta: either that, or get someone to set it up for you.
[15:59] <usr13> mohanohi: fstab is for mounting drives
[16:00] <m3gaman> Chousuke:: I could not agree more
[16:00] <emperorcezar> Is there any possible way to install flash 9 plugin on 8.10 64bit? Synaptic only has 10 and the it's just too unstable.
[16:00] <Chousuke> Bacta: such users would not be able to use windows properly either if it weren't set up for them already.
[16:00] <Bacta> Chousuke: Does a XP/Vista user need to know about configuration files or others? They just get up and going
[16:00] <gnu_d> Hey, what to do with Nautilus ?
[16:00] <Chousuke> Bacta: no they don't.
[16:00] <Chousuke> Bacta: the system is set up for them.
[16:00] <Scunizi> Chousuke: sort of .. but more indirectly.. most new users what to learn how to do "what they have an interest in" or what to replicate what they had on a different system using linux programs
[16:00] <Chousuke> Bacta: and if it happens not to work, they'll be just as clueless as they would be with ubuntu.
[16:00] <dell2009> hi
[16:00] <usr13> mohanohi: It tells the operating system what you want mounted or what you want the user to have access to, in being able to mount.
[16:00] <Duddle> hmm... I have a script that does some stuff, e.g. start firefox. if I run it manually, it works. but if I put it in cron, it gets executed but does not do anything. the script has all rights. any ideas?
[16:00] <Bacta> I've just had a lot of experience with people like my father and I imagine them trying to get up and running with Linux. It would be hell but sadly he represents a majority of computer users
[16:01] <Scunizi> Chousuke: and that's ok for them.. This is all off topic
[16:01] <mohanohi> ok.. ok.. now i really understood.. thank you usr13..
[16:01] <usr13> mohanohi: What are you trying to do?
[16:01] <Chousuke> Bacta: your father would not be able to install Windows either :)
[16:01] <Bacta> He did last time
[16:01] <gnu_d> Come on, it's emergency, how to rebuild Nautilus !
[16:01] <Bacta> Barely but he did
[16:01] <PKodon> Chousuke: This is one reason I hesitated for years to try Linux. Sometimes it's a matter of the ammount of time and money you have (time to figgure out a new system, money to have someone else do it when you don't have the time).
[16:02] <mohanohi> i inserted a pen drive to transfer some files.. upon double clicking the drive it showed me i dont have permission to mount the drive..
[16:02] <Chousuke> PKodon: there's always the pain of switching.
[16:02] <usr13> mohanohi: Oh, ok.
[16:02] <luca> where and how is the name of the configurationfile form init
[16:02] <luca> ?
[16:02] <kriss3d> hmm if im on the network with windows computers.. how would i access their shares ? would i have to mount each one ?
[16:02] <Bacta> mohanohi: If it were me I would bust out the terminal and type sudo mount whatever but my ranting in here has been that you shouldn't need to do that
[16:03] <Picassotamus> Bacta: Do you have any evidence that people "like your father" are the majority of computer users, or you just want to prove your point? I have parents too, that are running XP, and they have problems w/ it and don't know what to do either so, your anectote means nothing
[16:03] <Chousuke> PKodon: but if you're even marginally prepared to accept that you might need to *study* the new system a bit, Ubuntu is just great.
[16:03] <sipior> gnu_d: what were you doing in nautilus at the time it crashed?
[16:03] <luca> kriss3d: samba
[16:03] <Scunizi> !ot | Bacta Chousuke PKodon Picassotamus
[16:03] <gnu_d> sipior: I dropped images in the folder.
[16:03] <sipior> gnu_d: and the bug is reproducible?
[16:03] <Chousuke> mohanohi: So hm, how did you try mounting the drive, and what exactly happened?
[16:04] <Bacta> #ubuntu-offtopic is full of feminists...
[16:04] <gnu_d> sipior: I don't know, but when I paste stuff also crashes.
[16:04] <PKodon> Scunizi: Sorry.
[16:04] <mohanohi> i double clicked on the icon of pen drive in nautilus..
[16:04] <Scunizi> PKodon: happens..
[16:04] <Chousuke> mohanohi: did it give you any details? :/
[16:04] <usr13> mohanohi: you may need to edit /etc/goup and see that  your user name is entered on the line that starts with the word disk  and also the one that starts with plugdvd  But first, let me ask;  Are you the original user that was established on this system?
[16:05] <Chousuke> usr13: editing /etc/group directly is not recommended.
[16:05] <usr13> mohanohi: Have you added a new user to the system?
[16:05]  * PKodon shuts up till he has a question.
[16:05] <mohanohi> yes..
[16:05] <Chousuke> use "adduser user group" or the gnome user config tools to add yourself to a group
[16:05] <mohanohi> i will edit the permission in /etc/group
[16:05] <Scunizi> PKodon: or an answer :)
[16:05] <Chousuke> no, don't!
[16:05] <usr13> Chousuke: May have a better way...
[16:05] <Chousuke> mohanohi: do not touch that file.
[16:05] <mohanohi> ok.. ok.. i wont..
[16:06] <mohanohi> i will do adduser..
[16:06] <mohanohi> One thing i didn't understand..
[16:06] <Chousuke> don't do that either yet.
[16:06] <Chousuke> mohanohi: first we need to figure out why you don't have permissions for the disk.
[16:06] <mohanohi> i installed and used ubuntu for 1 month..
[16:06] <mohanohi> it didn't give this problem since.
[16:07] <PKodon> Scunizi: Well, I'm actually using PC/OS, which is based on Xubuntu, so I don't know how many "answers" I can give here, unless it has to do with getting a WEP connection with a linksys card.
[16:07] <Chousuke> mohanohi: first, try mounting the disk again normally and tell me exactly what happens.
[16:07] <mohanohi> nowadays it is telling like that..
[16:07] <Bacta> Yeah I don't get it? Why do you need permission to mount a disk?
[16:07] <Chousuke> Bacta: of course you do.
[16:07] <Voltaplein>  
[16:07] <Chousuke> Bacta: basic security.
[16:07] <sipior> gnu_d: you might have to downgrade, but did the problem start immediately after upgrading to Ibex?
[16:08] <Chousuke> Bacta: the problem here is that by default users SHOULD have that permission.
[16:08] <gnu_d> sipior: yes
[16:08] <Chousuke> Bacta: he for some reason does not.
[16:08] <mohanohi> it throws an msg that i dont have permission to mount that drive..
[16:08] <Chousuke> mohanohi: and no details?
[16:08] <mohanohi> no..
[16:08] <Chousuke> is there a "show details" thing anywhere?
[16:08] <Picassotamus> mohanohi: This is a pen drive? What filesystem is it using?
[16:08] <mohanohi> like what type of details?
[16:08] <usr13> mohanohi: If you just edit the file /etc/group and add a comma and your new user name to the end of each line that contains the original user name.
[16:08] <mohanohi> fat 32
[16:08] <gnu_d> sipior: I'll change to dolphin then ]:).
[16:08] <Chousuke> mohanohi: ANYthing.
[16:08] <sipior> gnu_d: then i'd have a look to see if a bug has been filed, although i haven't heard of anything like that biting a lot of people. you might be stuck going back to the earlier version.
[16:08] <Chousuke> usr13: NO.
[16:08] <sipior> gnu_d: dolphin?
[16:09] <usr13> Chousuke: Why not?
[16:09] <sipior> Chousuke: dude, chill.
[16:09] <Chousuke> usr13: do not encourage users to directly edit system files. it's dangerous.
[16:09] <Voltaplein> Hi  -- question about ifdown and ifup.  if I enter "ifdown eth0" I get the message: "ifdown: interface eth0 not configured" which is not true according to the command "ifconfig eth0".  Is this a bug?
[16:09] <usr13> mohanohi: And after that, just log out and back in again.
[16:09] <gnu_d> sipior: it's the official KDE file-browser, there is an option in gconf-editor to set which file-browser to start in Gnome.
[16:09] <Chousuke> mohanohi: I'm going to ask you to use terminal, but that's because I have no idea how to do this using the GUI :)
[16:09] <digitalhighway> I have ubuntu 8.04 running on my dell laptop - What would be the best rss reader for this operating system?
[16:10] <Chousuke> mohanohi: open a terminal and type "id" and press enter
[16:10] <Chousuke> mohanohi: then tell me what it says
[16:10] <mohanohi> right.. uid=1000(mohan) gid=0(root) groups=0(root),4(adm),20(dialout),24(cdrom),29(audio),44(video),46(plugdev),104(scanner),107(fuse),110(lpadmin),116(netdev),119(admin),124(sambashare)
[16:10] <Chousuke> uh
[16:10] <Chousuke> why is your gid 0 :/
[16:10] <mohanohi> dont know..
[16:10] <Chousuke> did you use sudo?
[16:11] <mohanohi> nope..
[16:11] <Chousuke> okay, so not that.
[16:11] <sipior> gnu_d: half a moment: which file browser are you trying to use? you're logged into gnome, yes?
[16:11] <digitalhighway> what's a good rss reader for linux
[16:11] <sipior> gnu_d: ah wait, i see what you meant.
[16:11] <mohanohi> uid=0(root) gid=0(root) groups=0(root)
[16:11] <gnu_d> sipior: are kidding me ?
[16:11] <Scunizi> digitalhighway: liferea
[16:11] <Chousuke> mohanohi: the command without sudo was fine :)
[16:11] <gnu_d> sipior: sorry I got a headache
[16:11] <mohanohi> ok..
[16:11] <sipior> gnu_d: no, i simply didn't understand what you wrote
[16:11] <Chousuke> mohanohi: but that looks correct, so :/
[16:12] <Picassotamus> mohanohi: You may have an unclean unmount on there.. look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount/USB, and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TestingStorageMedia
[16:12] <digitalhighway> thanks
[16:12] <Chousuke> mohanohi: now do "ls -l /dev/sd*" and put the output in pastebin somewhere
[16:12] <quibbler> digitalhighway: pan
[16:12] <mohanohi> ok Picassotamus, i will try..
[16:12] <m3gaman> !rss
[16:12] <sipior> quibbler: pan does rss now?
[16:13] <Picassotamus> mohanohi: You can check for "FAT: Filesystem panic (dev sda1) " in System Log or use dmesg from ternimal if you want
[16:13] <Chousuke> mohanohi: actually, do what Picassotamus suggested first :)
[16:13] <gnu_d> sipior: ow, I forgot, there is a "sudo: unable to resolve host xxx"
[16:13] <quibbler> sorry i raed news reader ...i'm tired!
[16:13] <QQQ> when I move whateverApp to my external hd and run: ln -s media/externaldrive/usr/whateverApp /usr/whateverApp how will the updates on whateverApp behave?
[16:14] <Chousuke> QQQ: you shouldn't do that.
[16:14] <QQQ> why?
[16:14] <Chousuke> QQQ: /usr/ belongs to the package manager. you shouldn't mess with it manually unless you know exactly what you're doing
[16:14] <QQQ> Chousuke I need to free some space somehow...
[16:15] <BeBoo_> what is the purpose of an LVM and is it needed?
[16:15] <Chousuke> QQQ: for starters run "apt-cache clean" :)
[16:15] <QQQ> Chousuke and moving/installing apps too my external drivve was a great solution (i thought)
[16:15] <Chousuke> QQQ: it's not really so easy.
[16:15] <QQQ> Chousuke did that :) but I have 5gb only on my ssd
[16:15] <toddoon> i have crashed my X server after manipulating compiz manager how do i start a X session without compiz i have removed .compiz but it runs compiz
[16:15] <Chousuke> QQQ: /usr usually doesn't take that much space anyway
[16:16] <Chousuke> QQQ: anyway, moving stuff there is possible, but not with simple symlinks.
[16:16] <Chousuke> or at least, that's not very robust.
[16:17] <Guest72276> hello
[16:17] <QQQ> Chousuke the diskspace analyser does show 3,5gb of 6,3GB used. I wonder what the rest is
[16:17] <Chousuke> QQQ: however, if you did that you would be unable to use the system without the external drive.
[16:17] <QQQ> Chousuke that sucked...
[16:18] <Chousuke> QQQ: you might want to look for big files in /home perhaps and move them to the external drive?
[16:18] <Chousuke> QQQ: or remove some packages you don't need :)
[16:18] <vernet> hey... does anyone know how to disable panning via the mouse when using a virtual resolution?
[16:18] <erUSUL> "lvm | BeBoo_
[16:18] <arussel> the "monitor resolution settings" offer as max resolution 1360x768, mine should be 1600x900. How can I add it ?
[16:18] <erUSUL> !lvm | BeBoo_
[16:18] <Yownanymous> vernet: Dunno if you can...
[16:19] <Chousuke> QQQ: you still have 2GB of free space, which is plenty.
[16:19] <Picassotamus> !resolution > arussel
[16:19] <Chousuke> QQQ: don't worry about it too much :)
[16:19] <Chousuke> QQQ: just store big files on the external drive.
[16:19] <QQQ> Chousuke: no i have 150mb left
[16:19] <Chousuke> ah. hmm
[16:19] <Yownanymous> QQQ: Ouch
[16:19] <mchelen> arussel, what is your video card
[16:20] <donjuanluis07> usr13: ok got it from synaptec BUT now what?  is this command line only? or is there a gui?
[16:20] <kedare> Hi, somebody know what is the "Cached memory" ? that use 50% of all my memory on my ubuntu-server
[16:20] <vernet> Yownanymous, I think I've done it before a really long time ago, but I can't remember how :-/
[16:20] <kedare> (look here: http://kedare.free.fr/Dist/mem-cached.png)
[16:20] <Chousuke> QQQ: try removing some packages?
[16:21] <Chousuke> using synaptic.
[16:21] <usr13> donjuanluis07: 2vcard is a Perl script to convert an addressbook to the popular VCARD file format. It can convert addresses for mutt, pine, mh, juno, Eudora, and ldif.  Try man 2vcard
[16:21] <Yownanymous> oh, something ridiculous I read from a Windows troll yesterday
[16:21] <QQQ> Chousuke: which? I need most of my apps (all bigger ones are uninstalled by now)
[16:21] <Yownanymous> Linux is apparently less organised than Windows
[16:21] <Chousuke> QQQ: anyway, I strongly recommend against doing anything weird with /usr; just try to find out where the space is going.
[16:21] <mohanohi> if i mount /dev/sdd1 it shows mount: only root can mount /dev/sdd1 on /media/sdd1
[16:21] <Yownanymous> apparently having lib and bin folders is too difficult for the poor guys' brains...
[16:21] <arussel> Picassotamus: thanks
[16:22] <Chousuke> mohanohi: try gnome-mount
[16:22] <Chousuke> or is it gvfs-mount
[16:22] <Picassotamus> arussel: Found your answer then I gather... np :)
[16:22] <QQQ> Chousuke: okey. to bad I can't make use of my 40GB external for apps (dont have many (big-)files)
[16:22] <mohanohi> Error mounting location: volume doesn't implement mount
[16:22] <Chousuke> QQQ: if you have most of your bigger apps uninstalled then /usr/ really shouldn't be taking more than 2 GB :/
[16:23] <toddoon> i have crashed my X server after manipulating compiz manager how do i start a X session without compiz i have removed .compiz but it runs compiz
[16:23] <Chousuke> QQQ: make sure you don't have anything big in /tmp/?
[16:23] <Voltaplein> Hi  -- question about ifdown and ifup.  if I enter "ifdown eth0" I get the message: "ifdown: interface eth0 not configured" which is not true according to the command "ifconfig eth0".  Is this a bug?
[16:24] <QQQ> Chousuke: oh, stupid I'll check that now (but did it some time ago)
[16:24] <QQQ> Chousuke: tmp is 2,5 mb
[16:24] <Chousuke> okay, so not there
[16:24] <QQQ> Chousuke: /usr/ is 2,5 GB
[16:24] <Chousuke> how big is /home?
[16:25] <Chousuke> QQQ: that sounds okay for /usr
[16:25] <sim-value> why dont you use Disk usage analyzer ?
[16:25] <Chousuke> so the rest of your space is going somewhere else.
[16:25] <QQQ> Chousuke: 550 says  the diskspacemanager/explorer
[16:25] <QQQ> Chousuke for home
[16:25] <Chousuke> that's quite a lot.
[16:25] <arussel> Picassotamus: not yet
[16:25] <Picassotamus> QQQ: What sim-value said... its a nice tool
[16:25] <Greatucker> anybody here want to help me debug a problem
[16:26] <Picassotamus> arussel: You wanted to get a higher resolution than what was listed?
[16:26] <BeBoo_> thank you, erUSUL
[16:26] <QQQ> sim-value: I use it: showing me 3,5 of 6 used GB
[16:26] <erUSUL> BeBoo_: no problem
[16:27] <Picassotamus> !anyone | Greatucker
[16:27] <Greatucker> installing ubuntu from the disk and only getting a terminal prompt and no GUI
[16:27] <Greatucker> thats my  bug or problem
[16:28] <arussel> Picassotamus: yes. I want to add 1600x900 resolution. I tried  xrandr --addmode 1600x900
[16:28] <Chousuke> QQQ: if it's showing 3.5, how come you have only 150MB left?
[16:28] <Greatucker> im installing the latest edition thats stable of ubuntu and installing it for CSS server in my basement the computer is stable
[16:28] <QQQ> It says 3,5GB for / and used spac 6,o of 6,3GB
[16:29] <Greatucker> and meets minimum requirements
[16:29] <Chousuke> QQQ: that doesn't quite make sense :/
[16:29] <arussel> what is a mode ? I get what is an output, a resolution . and xrandr shows the resolutions for per output. Where is hte mode ,
[16:29] <arussel> s/,/?
[16:29] <Chousuke> QQQ: what does df -h tell you?
[16:29] <evilfix> Greatucker: try sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[16:29] <QQQ> Chousuke: yeah...
[16:30] <Greatucker> ok one second im right now running this through firefox the FMware on ubuntu 64bit edition
[16:30] <QQQ> Chousuke: /dev/sdb5             6,4G  5,9G  146M  98% /
[16:30] <Greatucker> pain in the neck
[16:30] <QQQ> Chousuke: and some minor 0% or 1% things
[16:31] <Greatucker> alrighty  one second neeed to run down staris
[16:31] <Chousuke> QQQ: are there by chance any big files in / for whatever reason? :P
[16:31] <Picassotamus> arussel: Does xrandr show you the resolution you need?
[16:31] <sim-value> somebody knows howto update nexuiz manually ? with the patch ?
[16:31] <QQQ> Chousuke: no, only 2 making 10mb
[16:32] <Chousuke> QQQ: run du -sh /*
[16:32] <Chousuke> takes a while
[16:32] <Chousuke> (does not need root)
[16:32] <QQQ> Chousuke: I c :)
[16:32] <outlier> Is there an app out there that can reposition your open windows to tile them or some such?
[16:32] <h4ckluserr> like the equivalent to macs Expose?
[16:33] <arussel> Picassotamus: no. I tried to add it:  xrandr --newmode 1600x900 60 but it doesn't accept it.
[16:33] <sebsebseb>  
[16:33] <outlier> I'm not familiar with Expose - just something to get things to be non-overlapping
[16:33] <Chousuke> QQQ: du just counts diskspace, it's nothing malicious :)
[16:33] <h4ckluserr> Are you using compiz-fusion?
[16:33] <Chousuke> you might get some permission denied stuff but you can ignore them.
[16:33] <outlier> h4ckluserr: yup
[16:34] <QQQ> Chousuke: takes a while..
[16:34] <Greatucker> is it bad to be running a server on a computer thats 4-10 years old
[16:34] <Chousuke> QQQ: yeah.
[16:34] <Chousuke> QQQ: it goes through everything on your disk :P
[16:34] <Greatucker> but its stable never crashes
[16:35] <Greatucker> oh nvm
[16:35] <m3gaman> Greatucker:: Not at all
[16:35] <h4ckluserr> nah, it's no issue, as long as the machine is stable
[16:35] <Picassotamus> arussel: Now you may need to add that mode to your output, u could try xrandr --addmode VGA 1600x1400 ( or whatever you need )
[16:35] <QQQ> Chousuke: 2,4G	/root; 2,6G	/usr
[16:35] <kranny_> hi
[16:35] <Chousuke> QQQ: /root is huge :|
[16:36] <outlier> h4ckluserr: Even some way of telling a window where to open itself in the launcher or script would do the job.
[16:36] <Chousuke> QQQ: go see what it contains
[16:36] <Chousuke> QQQ: it's root's home dir; it should be a few KB at most.
[16:36] <QQQ> Chousuke: nautillus shows nothing
[16:36] <Chousuke> QQQ: ls -la /root/
[16:36] <Chousuke> -lah actually
[16:36] <Chousuke> easier to see the sizes
[16:37] <arussel> Picassotamus: xrandr: cannot find mode "1600x1400"
[16:37] <QQQ> Chousuke: -rw-------  1 root root  256 2009-01-09 01:17 .pulse-cookie
[16:37] <h4ckluserr> outlier: I can't think of anything off my head, I thought CF had a plugin that did just that
[16:37] <QQQ> Chousuke: is that a huge file?
[16:37] <Chousuke> QQQ: nah
[16:37] <Yownanymous> argh, WINDOWS TROLLS!!!
[16:38] <kranny_> hi
[16:38] <Yownanymous> RUN!!!
[16:38] <Chousuke> QQQ: it's in blocks.
[16:38] <Yownanymous> :P
[16:38] <arussel> and to create a new mode I need to add a lot of info I don't have
[16:38] <Chousuke> QQQ: use ls -lah to see sizes in KB/MB/GB
[16:38] <Greatucker> has anyone seen heavymetal the movie?
[16:38] <Yownanymous> I've never seen something so stupid, claiming Windows is more secure than Linux...
[16:38] <Chousuke> QQQ: if there are any subdirectories in /root/, check them too
[16:38] <h4ckluserr> ee gads really?
[16:38] <outlier> h4ckluserr: Not that I've found so far.
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[16:39] <Greatucker> windows more secure(starts laughing
[16:39] <m3gaman> you mean windows isn't more secure?
[16:39] <Yownanymous> kranny_: ?
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[16:39] <Greatucker> no it is not
[16:39] <Picassotamus> arussel: Did you try that w/ 1600x1900? I just put 1600x1400 cos i couldn't remember what you were going for
[16:39] <m3gaman> lol
[16:39] <QQQ> Chousuke: http://paste.ubuntu.com/129826/
[16:39] <Yownanymous> hang on a sec
[16:39] <m3gaman> I kid I kid
[16:39] <Greatucker> lol
[16:39] <Yownanymous> WTF is that?
[16:39] <m3gaman> could only be serious for a second before I started lol
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[16:39] <Yownanymous> hmm
[16:39] <Picassotamus> arussel: err 1600x900
[16:40] <Yownanymous> good luck lol
[16:40] <Greatucker> i mean ive never gotten a virus malware or anything if i use linux
[16:40] <Yownanymous> I've never gotten a virus on Windows mind, it's called being careful
[16:40] <m3gaman> does anyone here even run an AV solution on their linux box
[16:40] <h4ckluserr> bingo!
[16:40] <Greatucker> well yes
[16:40] <Yownanymous> but I would be SERIOUSLY less likely to get a linux virus
[16:40] <Chousuke> QQQ: taht doesn't tell much... hm
[16:40] <Greatucker> AV solution
[16:40] <Yownanymous> m3gaman: I use AVG
[16:41] <Greatucker> i use nod32
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[16:41] <sipior> m3gaman: sure, although that's generally to disinfect mail being handled by the linux box...
[16:41] <Chousuke> QQQ: do ls -lahR /root/ next
[16:41] <Chousuke> QQQ: recursive :/
[16:41] <SlimeyPete> I sometimes install clamAV, when I can be bothered
[16:41] <Yownanymous> to tell the truth, I'm actually using Windows right now
[16:41] <sim-value> anybody knows where nexuiz data goes ?
[16:41] <BeBoo_> i use clam
[16:41] <Greatucker> calm isnt bad but i dont like its like of functionality
[16:41] <Greatucker> clam**
[16:41] <Yownanymous> I use Clamwin on Windows, which unfortunately is my main OS :(
[16:41] <QQQ> Chousuke: oh, thats loads of output
[16:41] <Chousuke> QQQ: yeah, it is
[16:42] <Chousuke> QQQ: but pastebin saves :)
[16:42] <Yownanymous> it's become increasingly tempting to format the drive...
[16:42] <Yownanymous> kranny_: Got no idea
[16:42] <Greatucker> same here dude im windows32bit mediacenter 2005
[16:42] <Chousuke> QQQ: you can redirect to a file if it's too much
[16:42] <Chousuke> QQQ: do ls -lahR /root/ > output.file
[16:42] <h4ckluserr> Yownanymous, why would you format?
[16:42] <Yownanymous> h4ckluserr: so I could install Linux!
[16:42] <Greatucker> but i have a partion on the computer to ubuntu64bit
[16:42] <Yownanymous> cause I have a small hard drive...
[16:43] <sebsebseb> Yownanymous: Windows as a main OS?  what why?
[16:43] <Greatucker> LOL
[16:43] <Yownanymous> sebsebseb: came with the PC, haven't really bothered doing Linux and dual booting and such
[16:43] <h4ckluserr> are you familiar with linux? or just dabbling?
[16:43] <Greatucker> anybody know if VMware is really good
[16:43] <Yownanymous> h4ckluserr: familiar
[16:43] <sebsebseb> Yownanymous: maybe you can just get rid of Windows :)  depending on what you want to use your computer for
[16:43] <Yownanymous> Greatucker: VMWare is good
[16:43] <Geek`N`Proud> Greatucker: depends what version and what OS you plan to run in it
[16:43] <h4ckluserr> Greatucker: I use VMWare all the time on my Mac, I love it
[16:43] <Yownanymous> well the only thing I'd really miss is one game and shockwave
[16:44] <sebsebseb> Yownanymous: or just run Windows fine inside  a virtual machine inside Ubuntu, as long as you don't want to say 3D game, and have enough RAM, how much do you have?  I guess at least 1GB so fine for the vm
[16:44] <Yownanymous> I have at least a gig
[16:44] <Geek`N`Proud> Yownanymous: Macromedia Shockwave works on Linux through Wine
[16:44] <Yownanymous> Geek`N`Proud: not very well admittedly
[16:44] <sebsebseb> Yownanymous: shockwave well that will work fine in a vm
[16:45] <Yownanymous> sebsebseb: yeah, I'm gonna be using PUD through a virtual machine inside Windows...
[16:45] <Geek`N`Proud> Yownanymous: VirtualBox runs Windows 2000/XP/Vista better than VMWare Server (if you're looking to avoid paying)
[16:45] <sebsebseb> Yownanymous: what's PUD?
[16:45] <Yownanymous> yeah I like virtualbox
[16:45] <h4ckluserr> If it's a space issue yownanymous, why not grab a real lightweight distro, DSL or Puppy?
[16:45] <Yownanymous> PUD's a teeny linux distro based on ubuntu
[16:45] <Greatucker> ok here are some tech specs amdathalon 64X2 runnning 3.0GHZ 4GB 800MHz ram and The geforce 260 graphics card
[16:45] <Yownanymous> with LXDE
[16:45] <Yownanymous> cause I hate DSL and Puppy...
[16:45] <Yownanymous> with a passion
[16:45] <h4ckluserr> ok, as said... PUD :)
[16:45] <Greatucker> awe
[16:46] <sebsebseb> Yownanymous: uhmmmmm  Linux in a vm inside Windows is good for trying, but then you should do Linux for real with partitining :)  and do Windows in the vm :d  or no Windows at all
[16:46] <Greatucker> i hate dsl too
[16:46] <h4ckluserr> or... PDL run's really fast as well
[16:46] <sebsebseb> Yownanymous: Directx 10  games suppourt coming soon in Codeweavers  Games by the way
[16:46] <Geek`N`Proud> Yownanymous: what Windows version by the way?
[16:46] <Yownanymous> Codeweavers?!? The bunch of scammers that take from Wine and don't give back?!?
[16:46] <Yownanymous> Geek`N`Proud: XP
[16:46] <Geek`N`Proud> Yownanymous: they power wine
[16:46] <sebsebseb> Yownanymous: no that's Cedega
[16:46] <h4ckluserr> I dumped Cedega when I had more luck running Steam in Wine than Cedega
[16:46] <Yownanymous> home edition, SP3
[16:46] <Greatucker> xp nice
[16:46] <QQQ> Chousuke:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/129829/
[16:46] <Chousuke> Yownanymous: Um, codeweavers sponsors wine development.
[16:46] <Greatucker> i hate vista
[16:47] <Greatucker> resource hog
[16:47] <freedumMan> does anyone know why rsync in ubuntu would not copy hidden files? I'm using rsync -avz which works on any other distro?
[16:47] <Geek`N`Proud> Yownanymous: VMWare Server does not work on XP Home
[16:47] <Yownanymous> I'm not planning on using VMWare server...
[16:47] <Greatucker> try sudo
[16:47] <Geek`N`Proud> Yownanymous: VMWare Workstation costs money though
[16:47] <Yownanymous> well I could just use virtualbox or qtemu
[16:47] <Geek`N`Proud> and using Workstation to create a VM then Player from there on in sucks
[16:47] <sebsebseb> Yownanymous: how much hard disk space do you have?
[16:47] <h4ckluserr> why would you pay for a solution when perfectly good, free apps exist
[16:47] <Chousuke> QQQ: root's trash is full of files!
[16:47] <Yownanymous> sebsebseb: just over 8 gigs
[16:48] <QQQ> Chousuke: how comes?
[16:48] <sebsebseb> Yownanymous: I woudn't normalley recommend it, but  you could do wubi, and  have  Ubuntu like that,  yes it puts it inside a part of your NTFS file system
[16:48] <Chousuke> QQQ: I have no idea
[16:48] <Yownanymous> I do like wubi
[16:48] <sebsebseb> Yownanymous: and then you won't run Windows and Ubuntu at the same time
[16:48] <Greatucker> ok how much performance do you loose using windows inside a linux box through VMWare
[16:48] <Greatucker> on a high performance machine
[16:48] <QQQ> Chousuke: hmkay, so I will just emtpy the trash as root?
[16:48] <Chousuke> QQQ: try doing "sudo -rm -rf /root/.local/share/Trash/files"
[16:48] <sebsebseb> Yownanymous: about 1GB for a clean install of Ubuntu
[16:48] <Geek`N`Proud> Greatucker: under what load?
[16:48] <Yownanymous> Greatucker: depends how much RAM it's allocated
[16:48] <h4ckluserr> Wubi was probably the best thing that happened to Linux in awhile, in fact, I use it for it's simplicity
[16:48] <Chousuke> QQQ: will free 800MB :)
[16:48] <sebsebseb> Yownanymous: partitning is better usualley, but maybe not in your case
[16:48] <Greatucker> CRysis
[16:48] <sebsebseb> Yownanymous: 8GB seems a bit rubbishey to give to LInux, even though you could do a lot with 8GB
[16:49] <Yownanymous> sebsebseb: I think Wubi is a miracle
[16:49] <Chousuke> QQQ: no,  actually. a lot more :P
[16:49] <Chousuke> QQQ: did you log in as root at some point? :/
[16:49] <nameless`> how many times a n810 battery is supposed to live with wifi and online stream radio turn on ?
[16:49] <nyad> hi what files must I edit in ubuntu to configure my network? i need to do this via CLI, so no gui tools.   /etc/hosts and that other files?
[16:49] <Geek`N`Proud> Wubi isn't that great.. alternatives have existed for ages :|
[16:50] <sebsebseb> h4ckluserr: Wubi is really for noobs that can't partition their hard disk, or are to afraid to
[16:50] <Yownanymous> more linux distros need to introduce a wubi-type solution
[16:50] <Chousuke> QQQ: oh damn
[16:50] <nyad> i just need the file names
[16:50] <nameless`> because mine was empty after about 5h
[16:50] <Yownanymous> Geek`N`Proud: what alternatives?!?
[16:50] <Chousuke> QQQ: I just realised my rm command was wrong :)
[16:50] <BeBoo_> do i need to worry about these highlighted lines? http://pastebin.com/df517f52
[16:50] <Geek`N`Proud> Yownanymous: the Debian Windows-based Installer
[16:50] <Chousuke> QQQ: it's "sudo rm -rf /root/.local/share/Trash/files"
[16:50] <Yownanymous> that partitions thoughh
[16:50] <sipior> freedumMan: it works on ubuntu 8.10 as well (i just tested it on my machine). maybe a mistyped command?
[16:50] <h4ckluserr> sebsebseb: forgive me saying, but that sounded like a shot.  I dont' feel the need for using tools if it can be done for me
[16:50] <Yownanymous> well
[16:50] <QQQ> Chousuke: a allready wondered and wanted to do it with a sudo nautilus
[16:50] <Geek`N`Proud> Yownanymous: yes but the Guided option will let you resize.. which won't hurt
[16:50] <Chousuke> QQQ: don't use sudo with GUI apps
[16:51] <Chousuke> QQQ: it messes up things.
[16:51] <Chousuke> QQQ: use gksudo instead
[16:51] <Yownanymous> Geek`N`Proud: but I'm also scared of bootloaders, how do I get my XP bootloader back if I want to get rid of Linux?
[16:51] <Geek`N`Proud> stuff like Wubi encourages people to be lazy with learning how to use a PC
[16:51] <Greatucker> gksudo?
[16:51] <Chousuke> Greatucker: gnome's sudo tool
[16:51] <sebsebseb> h4ckluserr: partitning tends to be better, after all what if a Windows install buggers up properly, (which is likely since it's Windows) where someone did wubi, then Ubuntu buggers up as well
[16:51] <Geek`N`Proud> Yownanymous: easy.. fixmbr and fixboot
[16:51] <QQQ> ok
[16:51] <eule3> hi, is there a german support room?
[16:51] <Chousuke> Greatucker: sets up the environment so it's proper for GUI apps
[16:51] <Chousuke> !de
[16:51] <Greatucker> GKSUDO! make me a sandwich
[16:51] <Yownanymous> Geek`N`Proud: from what?!?
[16:51] <Geek`N`Proud> you just use the recovery console.. which comes with XP and Vista
[16:51] <ZykoticK9> nyad, to edit your network from cli, you need to edit /etc/resolv.conf & /etc/network/interfaces
[16:51] <Yownanymous> oh
[16:51] <Yownanymous> OK
[16:52] <Chousuke> QQQ: anyway, did you get the files removed? :)
[16:52] <Geek`N`Proud> Yownanymous: I mean seriously.. a normal Ubuntu install is 1000x better
[16:52] <h4ckluserr> sebsebseb: I can't argue that point.  However, with as many times as I've partitioned, tried distro's built and rebuilt grub etc.  Wubi is an incredible reprieve
[16:52] <QQQ> Chousuke: AY!!! IT WORKED!
[16:52] <Yownanymous> Geek`N`Proud: I know, but Wubi helps get to the Windows trolls... :D
[16:52] <hatter243> !puregnome
[16:53] <Chousuke> QQQ: yeah. so from now on, don't run nautilus with "sudo"; use gksudo instead :)
[16:53] <QQQ> Chousuke: 2,4GB free space, thx my personal hero for today
[16:53] <nyad> ZykoticK9, thanks
[16:53] <QQQ> Chousuke: you think that was the problem? (might be)
[16:53] <regeya> I had switched my main machine over to fedora for various reasons; I am so greatly tempted to switch back to ubuntu, because some stuff is like banging your head on a desk in fedora...and I don't know of anything that's much better.
[16:53] <Chousuke> QQQ: yeah
[16:53] <sebsebseb> h4ckluserr: well it can help with some noobs, because then they can try a more proper Ubuntu install,  whilst being able to remove it as if it was a normal Windows program
[16:53] <Chousuke> QQQ: it set your home dir (and trash) to be root's
[16:54] <Chousuke> QQQ: so all the trash was "hidden"
[16:54] <QQQ> Chousuke: okey, If there is any photoshop/flash thing I could do for you: ask now :)
[16:54] <Chousuke> nah
[16:54] <Geek`N`Proud> regeya: Try CentOS and Debian if your PC isn't ultra-new.. those may be less of a headbang since they're not as bleeding edge
[16:54] <Yownanymous> sebsebseb: exactly
[16:54] <sebsebseb> h4ckluserr: also if people can't burn the CD since no CD's or can't burn to USB, or can't be bothered to order a free offical CD, wubi could make sense
[16:54] <Yownanymous> generally I just go for USB stick installs actually
[16:55] <QQQ> Chousuke: k, so thx (maybe you want to recommend a firewall to me, don't want to check them one by one)
[16:55] <Geek`N`Proud> regeya: or get in bed with Ballmer and try OpenSuSE.. i've found it to be very similar to Ubuntu in terms of what it offers
[16:55] <sebsebseb> Yownanymous: USB installs are for noobs really to :d  ,but sometimes there can be a good reason for one
[16:55] <Geek`N`Proud> regeya: so there's not a lack of alternatives.. =]
[16:55] <Chousuke> QQQ: I don't know much about that, but I hear firestarter is popular :/
[16:55] <Yownanymous> sebsebseb: stop calling me a noob
[16:55] <h4ckluserr> sebsebseb, I dare say you are sounding a it like an elitist XD
[16:55] <sebsebseb> !noob | sebsebseb
[16:56] <QQQ> Chousuke: tried that but disliked it, thx anyway and bye
[16:56] <Geek`N`Proud> !noob  > hmm
[16:56] <sebsebseb> oh yeah I can't get the bot to say something to me like that LOL, plus  that might have been the wrong one
[16:56] <dougl> !noob | dougl
[16:56] <_Roman> I recently got a 3G mobile broadband usb stick, my provider was not in the wizard list of providers, how can I submit this provider to ubuntu for future inclusion?
[16:56] <Geek`N`Proud> !noob
[16:56] <Geek`N`Proud> ahhh
[16:57] <sebsebseb> Yownanymous: seriously though, what computer usage do you want to do?  let's find out if you really need Windows,  or if you should have it on dual boot, but taking up less space
[16:57] <realsifo> hello
[16:57] <somedude2> hello guys
[16:57] <Yownanymous> sebsebseb: I do really need Windows until Wine actually becomes any use
[16:57] <sebsebseb> realsifo: hello
[16:57] <realsifo> can i ask sometings?
[16:57] <dougl> hello
[16:57] <sebsebseb> somedude2: hello
[16:57] <sebsebseb> Yownanymous: why?
[16:57] <Geek`N`Proud> Yownanymous: what do you need to install in Wine
[16:58] <sebsebseb> !ask | realsifo
[16:58] <dougl> realsifo, just ask dont ask to ask
[16:58] <Geek`N`Proud> i've done everything.. even WGA in Wine :P
[16:58] <Yownanymous> Geek`N`Proud: http://openbve.uuuq.comn
[16:58] <sebsebseb> Geek`N`Proud: LOL WGA in Wine
[16:58] <Yownanymous> I mean
[16:58] <realsifo> how to install canon ip 1880 in ubuntu 8.10?
[16:58] <Yownanymous> http://openbve.uuuq.com
[16:58] <Yownanymous> it's been done in puppy and gOS, just not ubuntu
[16:58] <Geek`N`Proud> sebsebseb: you just need to nab a legit DigitalProductID from a real Windows registry and that's it ;)
[16:59] <Yownanymous> I did have it working once but then I tried it again and it went nuts...
[16:59] <h4ckluserr> realsifo did you even google that?
[16:59] <sebsebseb> Geek`N`Proud: oh right
[16:59] <sebsebseb> Geek`N`Proud: well not much stuff uses that shit still I think
[16:59] <somedude2> Compiling a C program works fine for me
[16:59] <Yownanymous> I'm no good at compiling :S
[16:59] <somedude2> but I can't run it.
[16:59] <realsifo> yup not working
[17:00] <realsifo> my printer could not recognize
[17:00] <sphantom> I am getting terrible 3d graphics perfomance on my IBM Thinkpad T43 running Intrepid. The graphics chipset is Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller (rev 03). Can anybody help?
[17:00] <somedude2> says command not found
[17:00] <Geek`N`Proud> somedude2: what did you do to compile?
[17:01] <somedude2>  gcc helloworld.c -o helloworld
[17:01] <Pici> !who
[17:01] <Yownanymous> sphantom: that's not a great chipset
[17:01] <dougl> somedude2, and what did you do to run it?
[17:01] <Geek`N`Proud> somedude2: ./helloworld
[17:01] <somedude2> !tab
[17:02] <somedude2> I typed just helloworld
[17:02] <realsifo> any driver for my printer?
[17:02] <Geek`N`Proud> somedude2: . isn't in PATH by default as it's a security risk
[17:02] <dougl> somedude2, do "./helloworld"
 I've noticed that the chipset isn't that great, but It runs Google Earth flawlessly under (dare I say) Windoze, as well as under previous Ubuntu releases.
[17:02] <malikyoda> does anyone know how to change the default papersize from A4 if it is greyed out?
[17:02] <Geek`N`Proud> somedude2: so therefore you always need to do ./helloworld
[17:03] <Yownanymous> sphantom: well I'd say that's a driver problem
[17:03] <somedude2> WOW it worked........ thankyou soooo much
[17:03] <somedude2> ./helloworld
[17:03] <Yownanymous> sphantom: wait for an update or try rolling back
[17:03] <h4ckluserr> realsifo I already gave you the answer over message
[17:04] <taipan_> test 1, quelqu'un me lit ?
[17:04] <realsifo> thnaks
[17:04] <realsifo> thanks
[17:05] <Greatucker> WHEW
[17:05] <dury> hi there channel :)
[17:05] <Hari_Sheldon> Sera.
[17:05] <sphantom> Younanymous: I agree, but I'm having a real hard time trying to figure out how to fix/reinstall/upgrade my driver. I've downloaded the linux driver from Intel's site, but it fails to install. I've looked through Synaptec Package Manager, but can't make much sense of anything there. I even tried compiling a driver from scratch, but that was way beyond me. Any chance you might be able to point me in a direction on this?
[17:06] <toddoon> i have intel graphics card and i can't set my screen to normal resolution can somebody help me to fix it
[17:06] <Yownanymous> sphantom: Go to Intel headquarters with an axe? :P
[17:07] <dury> gessss :( audacious doesn't launch and it's installed
[17:07] <Yownanymous> sphantom: See the orange star thingy with the exclamation mark? I think that's what you need to look at
[17:07] <sphantom> Yownanymous: I'm ttempted by your axe suggestion. ;)
[17:07] <soundray> dury: how are you trying to launch it?
[17:07] <malikyoda> does anyone know how to change the default papersize from A4 if it is greyed out?
[17:07] <Yownanymous> sphantom: I want to do it to Adobe...
[17:08] <LjL> malikyoda: it might be grayed out if you're using a program (like OpenOffice i think, or KOffice) that sets the page size by itself - in that case, look in the Format menu rather than the printing window
[17:08] <malikyoda> it's greyed out in the printer configuration
[17:08] <sphantom> Yownanymous: When you say "See the orange star thingy with the exlamation mark" I'm not sure what you're referring to. Are you referring to the icon that sometimes shows up on my panel when there are updates available?
[17:09] <LjL> kedare: cached memory is files from your HD that the system has read previously. it keeps them in memory in case they're needed again. it will drop them if it actually needs that memory for something else.
[17:09] <malikyoda> when i print anything the margins are close to the edge even if I set them
[17:09] <daniellog_> hey
[17:09] <dury> maybe if I uninstalled and installed again will launch properly.... soundray => applications =>sound&video=>audacious
[17:09] <kedare> LjL: thank :)
[17:09] <Yownanymous> sphantom: Yes
[17:09] <Yownanymous> right
[17:10] <Yownanymous> does anyone here actually know how to thingy with drivers in ubuntu?
[17:10] <LjL> kedare: you can basically consider it free memory
[17:10] <daniellog_> can you get live tv on xbmc?
[17:10] <dury> soundray: are you there
[17:10] <Bakefy> Is there anyway that I can add a resolution to ubuntu?  its not the best for this monitor
[17:10] <soundray> dury: please open a terminal and launch it from there. See if it reports any errors.
[17:10] <tyu> hi
[17:10] <LjL> !fixres > Bakefy    (Bakefy, see the private message from ubottu)
[17:10] <sebsebseb> Bakefy: have you got the graphics card driver installed?
[17:10] <sphantom> Yownanymous: I'm actually current on all the updates from Ubuntu, so I have no orange thingy right now.
[17:11] <dury> soundray: no errors
[17:11] <Bakefy> sebsebseb, I believe I do
[17:11] <dury> soundray: it doesn't appear on the desktop..... gessssss :(
[17:11] <Yownanymous> sphantom: Broken functionality then
[17:11] <sebsebseb> Bakefy: no you won't have unless you installed it yourself
[17:11] <soundray> dury: what happens in the terminal -- does it return to the prompt without any message at all?
[17:12] <dury> soundray: that's right
[17:12] <sebsebseb> Bakefy: system >  administaration >  hardware drivers
[17:12] <Bakefy> sebsebseb thanks... I don't even know what this thing has.
[17:12] <dury> soundray: it means it's installed
[17:12] <Bakefy> Its just an integrated thing on and old HP
[17:12] <soumonsi> hi
[17:12] <sebsebseb> Bakefy: get that thing installed and then you will probably have more resoloution options
[17:13] <sebsebseb> Bakefy: oh old HP hummmmm
[17:13] <sebsebseb> Bakefy: ok tell me if anything is in hardware drivers
[17:13] <Bakefy> nothign
[17:13] <sebsebseb> Bakefy: which version of Ubuntu, and how old is the HP?
[17:13] <sebsebseb> soumonsi: hi
[17:13] <dury> soundray: let's uninstalled it and install it again.... will fix it?
[17:14] <soundray> dury: I don't know, but it should be simple to try
[17:14] <Bakefy> sebsebseb - Ubuntu 8.04, its an HP Pavilion a620n
[17:14] <Bakefy> Server, with X installed
[17:14] <dury> soundray: all right.... how do I unInstalled
[17:14] <soumonsi> can one help me
[17:14] <sphantom> Yownanymous: Thanks for picking up my question, I'm going to try posting to the general group again.
[17:15] <soundray> dury: did you install it through synaptic?
[17:15] <sebsebseb> !ask  |  soumonsi
[17:15] <dury> soundray: that's right
[17:15] <tuxtox> Hi!  I am having a serious problem with playing videos.  The only video that has worked is youtube.  DVDs, AVIs and video capture that uses vfl1 crash the os completely.  vfl2 on Ekiga work.  any solutions?  I think I am up to date on drivers, but not positive.
[17:15] <sebsebseb> Bakefy: ok it is hardy good, but  a server hummmm. well you don't need much of a resoloution on a server, if your using it as a server LOL
[17:15] <sebsebseb> Bakefy: I mean proper servers just do their thing and that's it, not used for anything else
[17:15] <sphantom> ALL: Anybody experienced with Intel 915GM graphics driver configuration in Intrepid?
[17:15] <soundray> dury: then use that to remove it as well.
[17:15] <soumonsi> i have a problem to uninstall a ubuntu
[17:15] <dury> soundray: right
[17:16] <sebsebseb> soumonsi: ok what happended? why do you want to uninstall Ubuntu?
[17:16] <dury> soundray: we'll see
[17:16] <dury> soundray: a sec
[17:16] <Bakefy> sebsebseb, you're right.  Normally I dont isntall anything on server... no GUI at all... but this time i did in hopes of eventually installing backend mythtv
[17:16] <soumonsi> i like to format but doesnt work
[17:16] <sebsebseb> soumonsi: why?
[17:16] <soumonsi> i like to install windows7
[17:16] <sebsebseb> you can have both
[17:17] <soumonsi> i have a document but i could not rcovry
[17:17] <sebsebseb> soumonsi: Ubuntu is a good OS, maybe you just don't know how to use it properly yet, and so you think you want to uninstall it.   or your a troll
[17:17] <tsolox> when is the next ubuntu8.10 follow?
[17:18] <LjL> !jaunty > tsolox    (tsolox, see the private message from ubottu)
[17:18] <sebsebseb> end of April
[17:18] <sebsebseb> Bakefy: ok I guess since it's an old computer, that could be why you hardly got any resolutions
[17:18] <tsolox> sebsebseb: that would be version 04.30 ?
[17:18] <Yownanymous> tsolox: it'll probs be in April
[17:18] <Bakefy> it goes up decently high... but its just not the right aspect.
[17:18] <sebsebseb> no 9.04
[17:19] <tsolox> yeah..sorry
[17:19] <Bakefy> sebsebseb, like none of the aspects are right for a widescreen monitor
[17:19] <soumonsi> I want to found files in D-documents from Windows 7 but cant founs it, and when and try to install the windows 7 i cant found file again
[17:19] <sebsebseb> soumonsi: Windows 7 is a beta preview,  so there are problems with it
[17:20] <Bakefy> sebsebseb, but its okay, I will just let this sit after time... I put 2 1.5 TB drives in it :)
[17:20] <soumonsi> can you frensh
[17:20] <tsolox> if I update my 8.10 via synaptics, will am I be at par with version 9.04 ?
[17:20] <soumonsi> ??
[17:20] <sebsebseb> soumonsi: Ubuntu can probably access the Windows 7  install
[17:20] <sebsebseb> soumonsi: no I can't
[17:20] <soumonsi> ok
[17:20] <h4ckluserr> it can, unless you use Wubi
[17:20] <soumonsi> i know
[17:20] <tsolox> or else, i will have to uninstall 8.10 and install the new 9.04....
[17:21] <sebsebseb> soumonsi: if anything :d get rid of WIn7 not Ubuntu
[17:21] <dury> soundray: not success :(
[17:21] <student_> YO DAWG I HERD YOU LIEK SHELL SO WE PUT A SHELL IN A SHELL SO YOU CAN ASSIGN FUNCTIONS WHILE YOU ASSIGN FUNCTIONS DAWG.
[17:21] <tsolox> it would be nice if updating an ubuntu version by synaptics will make it at par with what is latest..so that users arent going to uninstall ..
[17:21] <Voltaplein> Hi  -- question about ifdown and ifup.  if I enter "ifdown eth0" I get the message: "ifdown: interface eth0 not configured" which is not true according to the command "ifconfig eth0".  Is this a bug?
[17:21] <Yownanymous> student_: WTF?
[17:22] <dury> soundray: what your advice :( bloody hell what should I do
[17:22] <Bakefy> sebsebseb, I am ready to move on...  I do have another question you might be able to guide me in the right direction... iSCSI.  I want to share to a windows server.
[17:22] <soumonsi> but i had a document in other partion where i would like to install ubuntu but i hav´nt found this
[17:22] <sebsebseb> Bakefy: hummmmmm not sure, but Samba does Windows files
[17:22] <xzibit> YO DAWG I HERD YOU LIEK SHELL SO WE PUT A SHELL IN A SHELL SO YOU CAN ASSIGN FUNCTIONS WHILE YOU ASSIGN FUNCTIONS DAWG.
[17:22] <m3gaman> omg stfu
[17:22] <mikea87> hi, why icons and names of files are visible even if it is unmounted?
[17:22] <soundray> dury: sorry, I can't help you now, as I have a meeting. Don't lose patience, though, you'll find help here eventually. And please don't swear in this channel.
[17:23] <kx1> hi there i want add a subtitle to a video downloaded from youtube is that possible ??
[17:23] <mikea87> in encrypted private folder
[17:23] <Bakefy> sebsebseb, that would be easy.  I wanted to control permissions with the windows box.  I beleive iscsi is the only way.  Only because I have a domain controller
[17:23] <dury> soundray: sorry really sorry
[17:23] <sebsebseb> soumonsi: boot Windows and  get your  data,  get rid of WIndows :d and put Ubuntu on?
[17:23] <mikea87> hi, why icons and names of files in encrypted private folder are visible even if it is unmounted?
[17:23] <Yownanymous> kx1: you need to know how to write subtitles files
[17:23] <sebsebseb> Bakefy: maybe they can help in #Windows :D  plus  some  Linux people go there
[17:24] <Yownanymous> NOOO!
[17:24] <Bakefy> sebsebseb, if i could do it with SMB I would.
[17:24] <Yownanymous> don't go in that channel, you will be traumatised for life!
[17:24] <lgc> Why is Xorg swallowing up my CPU resources? It didn't happen before Intrepid.
[17:24] <Yownanymous> :P
[17:24] <tyu> hi
[17:24] <Bakefy> Thanks for your help today sebsebseb
[17:24] <kx1> oh.. and how is that ? is there any specific software to do it ?
[17:24] <sebsebseb> tyu: hi
[17:24] <orudie> how would i add a user to sudoers list
[17:24] <Yownanymous> kx1: you can write it with a text editor
[17:24] <Yownanymous> or you could use something like kino
[17:24] <sebsebseb> Bakefy: ok sure
[17:24] <kx1> then
[17:24] <tyu> does anybody know how to mange video ipods?
[17:25] <sebsebseb> Bakefy: oh yeah and this is more general  Linux channel #linux
[17:25] <kx1> kino ? software name ?
[17:25] <sipior> orudie: you'll want to use "visudo"
[17:25] <Yownanymous> !kino
[17:25] <Yownanymous> oh...
[17:25] <Yownanymous> I dunno the name of the actual package
[17:25] <orudie> sipior, any more details on this ?
[17:25] <melrockz> when I try to compile lives video editor from source, an error pops up that 'gtk+-2.0' is not installed, but in synaptic it seems to be installed and has another name. What to do?
[17:26] <tuxtox> Hi!  I am having a serious problem with playing videos.  The only video that has worked is youtube.  DVDs, AVIs and video capture that uses vfl1 crash the os completely.  vfl2 on Ekiga work.  any solutions?  I think I am up to date on drivers, but not positive.
[17:26] <lgc> tyu, apt-cache search ipod will put you on the right track.
[17:26] <sipior> orudie: "man sudo". you can probably get away with copying one of the lines that is already present in /etc/sudoers, depending on what sort of permissions you want to give out.
[17:27] <kx1> ok wat about converting the flv video to avi or watever does it make anychange ?
[17:27] <mokotoo> does one make a configure from configure.ac?  if so, how?
[17:27] <soumonsi> ok thinkyou
[17:27] <sipior> orudie: if the account you want to empower is not completely trusted, be careful about what you let it accomplish as root: in particular, commands that can spawn shells are extremely dangerous.
[17:28] <lgc> I need someone knowledgeable with Xorg to offer advice.
[17:28] <sky_> hi anyone know how i can delete 2 directorys from trash ?
[17:28] <m3gaman> advice about what
[17:28] <sipior> orudie: for example, letting someone use an editor via sudo could be disastrous :-)
[17:28] <Laundry> is there any reason that wicd would hang at "None: Obtaining IP address..."
[17:28] <KingWilliam> lgc, just fire your question, we will see how hard it is ;)
[17:29] <KingWilliam> sky_, correct me if im wrong, but I think you should just open the trash, right click copy on the files and paste them where you want :P
[17:29] <lgc> KingWilliam, m3gaman, 'Why is Xorg swallowing up my CPU resources? It didn't happen before Intrepid'.
[17:30] <sky_> KingWilliam: i am not noob...i tried it...but it say that i dont have permissions :X
[17:30] <lgc> KingWilliam, m3gaman, it now takes up to 85% of my processor beef. And drags everything else near to useless.
[17:30] <dury> can anyone help for audacious please
[17:31] <mikejet> I'm running ubuntu with mostly default packages. Any suggestions on how to play http://www.bloomberg.com/streams/audio/radio_live.asx ? Thanks.
[17:31] <sipior> dury: you mean audacity?
[17:31] <KingWilliam> sky_, I think I had the same isue. On which drive/partition is the trash?
[17:31] <sky_> KingWilliam: same as system :D...ext3
[17:31] <sebsebseb> dury: audacious heh, why not use something good such as Banshee :)  uhmmm your on Ibex?
[17:32] <sebsebseb> dury: hardy version of banshee sucks, Ibex one good
[17:32] <mathias> hi, my  problem umts wvdial network-manager 7.0.x and umtsmon can't connect on wvdial i get the message no carrier cane somebody help me? btw. modem is Hauwei e620
[17:32] <lgc> KingWilliam, m3gaman, apart from the fact that, since the upgrade, I can't customize my preferences of the touchpad because there's some issue with the SHMConfig variable.
[17:33] <LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO> LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
[17:33] <dury> sebsebseb: what you mean
[17:33] <Pici> LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO: Please don't.
[17:33] <m3gaman> seriously, just leave man
[17:33] <sky_> anyone know which way have trash ?
[17:33] <KingWilliam> sky_, And have you checked the permissions ont he folders you want to copy?
[17:33] <Yownanymous> !info compizconfig
[17:33] <sebsebseb> dury: I am saying that Audacious is not a good player
[17:34] <Yownanymous> !info compiz-config
[17:34] <sebsebseb> dury: ,but that Banshee is
[17:34] <sky_> KingWilliam: yea
[17:34] <phanleson> hi
[17:34] <Yownanymous> !info compizconfig-settingsmanager
[17:34] <sebsebseb> phanleson: hi
[17:34] <Yownanymous> argh
[17:34] <dury> sebsebseb: how can I get that
[17:34] <Pici> !ccsm > Yownanymous
[17:34] <jackphonics> how do you register your nick?
[17:34] <phanleson> i had a problem with sound card in ubuntu
[17:34] <sky_> its Pidgin2.5.5 source directory i compile it :X
[17:34] <sebsebseb> dury: are you on Intrepid Ibex 8.10?
[17:34] <phanleson> any one can help me
[17:34] <Yownanymous> what's the compiz config package called... anyone know?
[17:34] <phanleson> ?
[17:34] <KingWilliam> sky_, sorry if you think I ask silly questions, but I only ask to be sure ;)
[17:34] <sebsebseb> !sound
[17:35] <dury> sebsebseb: you mean the ubuntu release
[17:35] <sky_> KingWilliam: it say that i can do all :X
[17:35] <Pici> !register > jackphonics
[17:35] <sebsebseb> dury: yes
[17:35] <phanleson> what are you ? ubottu
[17:35] <Yownanymous> !info compizconfig-settings-manager >Greatucker
[17:35] <Yownanymous> oh for God sake
[17:35] <Yownanymous> I HATE IRC
[17:35] <ConstantineXVI> Does Ubuntu natively handle syncing, tethering, etc. on the Nokia E71?
[17:35] <phanleson> who are ubottu?
[17:35] <dury> sebsebseb: what's the command to know that?
[17:35] <sebsebseb> !release
[17:35] <sebsebseb> !ubottu
[17:35] <sky_> ubottu is bot
[17:35] <sebsebseb> !version
[17:35] <bjoern_> hi
[17:36] <Yownanymous> !info compizconfig-settings-manager > Greatucker
[17:36] <sebsebseb> bjoern_: hi
[17:36] <sky_> anyone know how i can put directorys to /dev/null ?
[17:36] <sebsebseb> dury: ok run that command the one abovbe
[17:36] <BrandtOE> hello
[17:36] <sebsebseb> BrandtOE: hello
[17:36] <phanleson> ubottu
[17:36] <MrSunshine__> humm, got a driver that loads even tho ive added it to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[17:36] <MrSunshine__> why? :/
[17:36] <panesar_sandeep> hi, there, i want to know that is ok if i install ubuntu-desktop aptitude in ubuntu server edition??
[17:36] <MrSunshine__> its named ssb
[17:37] <ZykoticK9> sky_ /dev/null is a black hole, you can't put anything in there
[17:37] <bjoern_> i did a "bin" in the fstab from a folder to /media/target and I'd like to have a desktop "drive" icon "target"
[17:37] <sebsebseb> panesar_sandeep: uhmmmmmmm  probably not
[17:37] <bjoern_> however.. it did not work
[17:37] <sebsebseb> panesar_sandeep: not sure
[17:37] <sky_> ZykoticK9: i mean move directorys there..:X
[17:37] <bjoern_> any ideas to do it?
[17:37] <tomorama> I'm using Ubuntu 8.10 to set up an HTPC. Got a 1 TB HDD but I want to use most of that for a media partition. How much space would you suggest I set aside for the ubuntu install partition?
[17:37] <sebsebseb> dury: so which version?
[17:37] <ZykoticK9> sky_, just "rm" or delete them instead?
[17:37] <sebsebseb> dury: applications > assessories > terminal  by the way if you didn't know what it meant by shell
[17:37] <sky_> tomorama: 10GB
[17:37] <panesar_sandeep> sebsebseb, can't i get gui in server ed along wid server features??
[17:38] <sky_> ZykoticK9: i cant
[17:38] <|Kamen|> j #eeepc
[17:38] <phanleson> who are you ?ubottu
[17:38] <tomorama> sky_: wow, that's all? Doesn't seem like much.
[17:38] <LjL> a bot
[17:38] <MrSunshine__> can it be something else that pulls it in ? :)
[17:38] <michael__> I got disconnected from transmission and now my download is going very slowly, what should I do?
[17:38] <panesar_sandeep> ii want to know that is ok if i install ubuntu-desktop aptitude in ubuntu server edition??
[17:38] <sebsebseb> panesar_sandeep: maybe, but it's probably not the best idea.  and you can use the desktop edition as a server
[17:38] <michael__> the network has been flakey on jaunty lately
[17:38] <|Kamen|> bah, woops
[17:38] <sky_> or how i can run trash as root ?
[17:38] <dury> sebsebseb: it's Ubuntu 8.04.2 hardy
[17:39] <michael__> oh, no support here
[17:39] <sebsebseb> dury: I thought it might have been,  so only a rubbish version of Banshee, unless you get the ppa for it
[17:39] <panesar_sandeep> sebsebseb, can desktop ed be used to run client system booting over a network??
[17:39] <sebsebseb> dury: how did you install that?
[17:39] <sebsebseb> panesar_sandeep: I think maybe yeah, not sure
[17:39] <dury> sebsebseb: what?
[17:39] <sky_> how i can run trash as root ?
[17:39] <sebsebseb> dury: there's a way for you to get the Intrepid Ibex verson of Banshee in Hardy
[17:39] <bjoern_> Q: I'd like to give all users fast access to some shared folders and therefore would like to have some "drive" icons on the desktop to these folders. However, bind did not do it. How can I give every user access to a folder not in his home directory?
[17:39] <sebsebseb> dury: the one in Hardy sucks
[17:40] <phanleson> i had a problem with sound card in ubuntu
[17:40] <sebsebseb> dury: I was also wondering how you installed Ubuntu, since you didn't even know which version you had
[17:40] <dury> sebsebseb: didn't remember
[17:40] <panesar_sandeep> sebsebseb, the tasksel may be helpful, but ubuntu server doc says that server kernel is a lot diff frm the desktop ed
[17:40] <dury> it's hardy
[17:40] <sebsebseb> dury: did you partition your hard disk for hardy?  boot from a CD and do that?
[17:40] <Whitor> Hi, What is a good program to use to connect via RS232 to a console of an appliance ?
[17:40] <panesar_sandeep> !version
[17:40] <phanleson> how to install ubuntu?
[17:41] <panesar_sandeep> !version|dury
[17:41] <sebsebseb> !install
[17:41] <grnt> Hi all I have a quick question I have installed the latest ubuntu desktop distro today. I connect to the net wirelessly at the moment. When I boot into ubunutu and set up a new wireless connection with the SSID and the MAC Address I got from windows vista it never seems to connect. How do I know where the problem is occurring.
[17:41] <sebsebseb> phanleson: the best way is to partition your hard disk for Ubuntu
[17:41] <|Kamen|> Whitor: what appliance?
[17:41] <bigjohnson> anyone know how to set my music playback to my headphones in gnome ubuntu? i plug my headphones in and it keeps playing thru the speakers
[17:41] <phanleson> mày làm gì thế
[17:41] <Whitor> |Kamen|, an ascend CSU/DSU ... does it matter ?
[17:41] <sebsebseb> dury: maybe you used wubi to install Ubuntu?  and so it's inside a part of Windows
[17:42] <panesar_sandeep> bigjhonson, check for audio properties
[17:42] <dury> sebsebseb: it's in another hard disk
[17:42] <sebsebseb> dury: maybe you should upgrade to Intrepid Ibex
[17:42] <Whitor> |Kamen|, Just looking for a terminal  on com3 with 8,n,1,9600 communication stats
[17:42] <sebsebseb> dury: altough not that many differences between hardy and ibex
[17:42] <bigjohnson> i went into the sound preferences but i did not see a headphones option
[17:42] <grnt> Hi all I have a quick question I have installed the latest ubuntu desktop distro today. I connect to the net wirelessly at the moment. When I boot into ubunutu and set up a new wireless connection with the SSID and the MAC Address I got from windows vista it never seems to connect. How do I know where the problem is occurring.
[17:43] <sebsebseb> dury: ,but to get the april release you probably got  to go thrhough ibex anyway
[17:43] <panesar_sandeep> bigjhonson, check for audio properties
[17:43] <sebsebseb> dury: unless clean install
[17:43] <bigjohnson> where is that at pan?
[17:43] <panesar_sandeep> bigjhonson, sory , w8
[17:43] <dury> sebsebseb: it will take long to
[17:43] <sebsebseb> dury: it will take a bit of time yeah
[17:43] <sebsebseb> dury: ok so you don't want to
[17:43] <panesar_sandeep> dury, wats the prob???
[17:43] <itsatric1> Hello, does anyone use workrave?
[17:43] <sebsebseb> dury: google  banshee ppa or something and get that :)
[17:44] <sebsebseb> dury: banshee ubuntu ppa or something
[17:44] <sebsebseb> !ppa
[17:44] <panesar_sandeep> !workrave
[17:45] <grnt> Anyone able to tell me a way I can verify my wireless network card is working?
[17:45] <dury> panesar_sandeep: audacious doesn't launch..... and it's installed
[17:45] <KingWilliam> grnt, ifconfig?
[17:45] <sebsebseb> dury: infact here you go https://launchpad.net/~banshee-team/+archive/ppa
[17:45] <panesar_sandeep> !audacious
[17:46] <melrockz> !trash
[17:46] <Pici> !msgthebot | panesar_sandeep
[17:46] <panesar_sandeep> pici, ok, thnx
[17:47] <grnt> Anyone able to tell me a way I can verify my wireless network card is working?
[17:47] <sebsebseb> !wireless
[17:47] <bjoern_> Q: I'd like to give all users fast access to some shared folders and therefore would like to have some "drive" icons on the desktop to these folders. However, bind did not do it. How can I give every user access to a folder not in his home directory?
[17:47] <bjoern_> any suggestions?
[17:48] <panesar_sandeep> bigjhonson, system>preferences>sound
[17:48] <dury> any similar application to audacious to install in hardy 8.04
[17:48] <bjoern_> I would not like to add a softlink to everyones profile bc it is a sambe pdc
[17:48] <sebsebseb> dury: XMMS?????    however that Banshee I was telling you about is great
[17:49] <ZykoticK9> bjorge, first create the directory, then set permission "chmod ugo+rwx folder", then you can use link on the deskop of each user "ln -s /folder/to/share NAME"
[17:49] <BrandtOE> whats up?
[17:49] <dury> sebsebseb: how to xmms
[17:50] <rhousand> bjoern_, your are using samba?
[17:50] <sebsebseb> dury: sudo apt-geti nstall xmms
[17:50] <sebsebseb> sudo apt-get install xmms
[17:50] <ZykoticK9> bjorge, Samba sharing is different!
[17:50] <sebsebseb> dury: I guess mplayer could be good as well:  sudo apt-get install mplayer
[17:51] <panesar_sandeep> dury, try "sudo apt-get audacious"
[17:51] <brandonban6> Does anyone know why my external hdd shows up on my desktop as "500 GB Media" after being mounted? I want to change "500 Media" to "Backup Drive"
[17:51] <sebsebseb> xray7224: it's you?
[17:51] <xray7224> if i pull banshee from the repo's does it pull propritory crap
[17:52] <ZykoticK9> dury, if you're looking for a good audio player you might want to check out Songbird (my fav right now) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Songbird
[17:52] <panesar_sandeep> !xmms|dury
[17:52] <xray7224> and yeh sebsebseb it is
[17:52] <sebsebseb> xray7224: ha ha no, just sudo apt-get install banshee
[17:52] <sebsebseb> xray7224: the propritary crap you can install yourself or with that command you know the one I mean
[17:52] <xray7224> im not installing propritory crap
[17:52] <mikejet> ZykoticK9, Can you play this radio stream with that?  http://bloomberg.com/tvradio/radio/#
[17:53] <sebsebseb> xray7224: ok  just sudo apt-get install banshee then
[17:53] <ZykoticK9> mikejet, don't know if songbird has a lot of streaming feature?  not sure.
[17:53] <panesar_sandeep> sebsebseb, xmms is no longer available, xmms1,bmpx, audacious
[17:53] <xray7224> sebsebseb i know how to install stuff that wasnt the question
[17:53] <sebsebseb> xray7224: it uses mono which is a open source port of .net, but  yeah great player
[17:53] <panesar_sandeep> sebsebseb, xmms is no longer available, xmms2,bmpx, audacious
[17:53] <SpaceBass2> having trouble getting the Cisco VPN client to compile on 8.10 - anyone had success ?
[17:53] <grnt> Hrmm sebsebseb my wireless card is built in yet it falls under the "USB" catefory for some reason looking here (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCardsRealTek#PCI) so should I just follow those install instructions even if it isn't plugged into a USB port?
[17:53] <sebsebseb> xmms is rubbish and so is  audacious,  Banshee :)
[17:53] <sebsebseb> Rythmbox is rubbish to, and I don't understand how certain really people Amarok so much
[17:53] <xray7224> xine ftw :)
[17:54] <sebsebseb> xray7224: oh xine sounds like something I tried for video once
[17:54] <sebsebseb> grnt: wireless is pretty much always an issue with Ubuntu :(   yeah  I guess try any instructions you get
[17:55] <xray7224> wireless isnt that hard
[17:55] <sebsebseb> xray7224: maybe not, but it can be a bit of a pain, espeasilly for new users.  and  Ndiswrapper should be a last resort
[17:55] <grnt> sebsebseb thanks, I have no other options at the moment for connecting to the net so guess I will give it a go, its just a pain booting to vista every time I need to query the net....
[17:55] <xray7224> if native doesnt work ndiswrapper its not hard really
[17:55] <dury> xmms is not a candidate to install
[17:55] <sebsebseb> grnt: I didn't look on those instructions, but xray can probably help you
[17:56] <ZykoticK9> mikejet, that bloomberg link seems to be a flash based web stream.  I'm not sure any program will be able to stream that, it's more to listened to with your browser (and it doesn't appear that my firefox can play it?)
[17:56] <x4d_> I'm having issues copying files from a mac to ubuntu through samba, the problem seems to affect nfs shares as well, files in mac that have extended attributes refuse to be copied over. They return error: could not copy extended attributes, operation on permited. anyone with a solution to this ?
[17:56] <S7> Hi, I have xubuntu 8.10, I've tried to increase the number of workspaces to 4 using Xfce menu > Settings > Workspaces Settings, however it doesn't seems to have any effect. suggestions anyone?
[17:56] <sebsebseb> xray7224: uhmmmmm you still in Sabyon IRC even though you won't use that distro for 3 months :d  ?
[17:56] <dury> a remove audacious.... install again .... but doesn't appear when I try to launch it :(
[17:57] <xray7224> S7 just right click on thing which shows the workspaces and click properties
[17:57] <lgc> What's the big deal about enabling SHMConfig?
[17:57] <ZykoticK9> durt, from a terminal type audacious and see if you get any errors
[17:57] <mikejet> ZykoticK9, Yeah, i'm okay with using firefox, but I don't know why it doesn't play. (I've tried view-source and run "vlc the-url"), but that doesn't play either.
[17:57] <xray7224> sebsebseb, i like the commuity and my servers run gentoo/sabayon
[17:57] <S7> xray7224, it shows pager's properties, nothing much there
[17:57] <aplustattoo> I have a question about a vista HP
[17:57] <sebsebseb> xray7224: ha ha so not quite Ubuntu only then  for 3 months :d
[17:57] <panesar_sandeep> dury, try banshee...
[17:57] <ZykoticK9> mikejet, i can see your problem.  don't have any suggestions for you?  sorry.
[17:57] <xray7224> S7 it should say number of workspaces
[17:58] <xray7224> and you increase it to 4 is thats what you want
[17:58] <grnt> sebsebseb whats xray (googling now but you be able to speed up the process)
[17:58] <S7> xray7224, it doesn't, theres just a box with "user wheel to change workspaces"
[17:58] <aplustattoo> Last night I wiped Norton and Installed Trend Micro Internet Security. now when i start my laptop all i get is a cursor with a black screen
[17:58] <aplustattoo> Any thoughts?
[17:58] <sebsebseb> dury: yes try banshee as I already said, but make sure you get the ppa.  https://launchpad.net/~banshee-team/+archive/ppa
[17:58] <sebsebseb> grnt: xray7224 is a person that can probably help you with your wireless issues
[17:58] <grnt> Ah ty
[17:58] <dury> no errors when I type audacious
[17:58] <dury> in terminal
[17:59] <aplustattoo>  Last night I wiped Norton and Installed Trend Micro Internet Security. now when i start my laptop all i get is a cursor with a black screen
[17:59] <lgc> How can I change my keyboard preferences?
[17:59] <aplustattoo> Help?
[17:59] <ZykoticK9> mikejet, I tried that link with IE6 and get an error message "The audio you have requested is only available for Windows Media Player.  We apologize for any inconvenience."  Looks like you might be out of luck.
[17:59] <dury> doesn't launch
[17:59] <sipior> aplustattoo: neither of those are linux programs, are they?
[17:59] <aplustattoo> negative
[17:59] <aplustattoo> Windows Vista
[18:00] <m3gaman> so why are you asking for help in a linux channel..lol
[18:00] <xray7224> grnt if you need help pm me too much chat in here for good help
[18:00] <CVirus> Why isn't build-essential available in intrepid ?
[18:00] <aplustattoo> I didn't know that's what this was
[18:00] <sipior> aplustattoo: you've stumbled upon the ubuntu support channel, so i'm afraid you'll need to look elsewhere :-)
[18:00] <S7> CVirus, i have it installed
[18:00] <Jeruvy> CVirus: it is
[18:01] <lgc> Oh, hell! Nobody knows or nobody cares to answer.
[18:01] <panesar_sandeep> lgc, wats your prob??
[18:01] <mefisto__> !info build-essential
[18:01] <sipior> hope he applies for a refund
[18:03] <unimatrix9> is there some new art work for jaunty already ?
[18:03] <dury> how do I reinstall an application
[18:03] <sebsebseb> sipior: you know people like that can be converted to Ubuntu, if you don't just tell them to look some where else
[18:03] <sebsebseb> sipior: so damn that
[18:03] <sipior> sebsebseb: i'm not interested in converting anyone.
[18:03] <unimatrix9> use synaptic to reinstall
[18:03] <sebsebseb> sipior: ok, but I am
[18:04] <dury> unmatrix9: doesn't work
[18:04] <sebsebseb> sipior: plus more happy Desktop Linux users the better
[18:04] <sipior> sebsebseb: the fact that you didn't say anything means it can't be that important to you.
[18:04] <mikejet> ZykoticK9, okay.  it plays on winxp with Media Player 11. it boggles the mind why these companies stream rare formats.
[18:04] <sebsebseb> sipior: I missed it was doing something else
[18:04] <unimatrix9> dury : what is the app you need to install?
[18:05] <sebsebseb> sipior: and he had gone by the time I saw
[18:05] <sipior> sebsebseb: well, life is hard sometimes.
[18:05] <sebsebseb> sipior: maybe tell them to go to #Windows next time
[18:05] <dury> unmatrix9: it's installed already but doesn't launch
[18:05] <xray7224> is there some software which alerts you about any closed source software being put on your system
[18:05] <sebsebseb> sipior: or not, but I am there also at the moment
[18:05] <dury> unmatrix9: audacious
[18:05] <sipior> sebsebseb: thanks, i'll consider it.
[18:05] <sebsebseb> xray7224: yes  rms
[18:05] <sebsebseb> I mean
[18:06] <sebsebseb> xray7224: vrms
[18:06] <xray7224> in the repo's ?
[18:06] <sebsebseb> yes
[18:06] <xray7224> ok
[18:06] <melrockz> is there anything as good as Winamp modern?
[18:06] <melrockz> or better?
[18:06] <sebsebseb> melrockz: winamp LOL.  ok your on Intrepid Ibex 8.10?
[18:06] <unimatrix9> dury open an terminal on gnome, type apt-get install synaptic
[18:06] <sebsebseb> melrockz: banshee is better, but the hardy version sucks
[18:07] <dury> unmatrix9: synaptic is installed
[18:07] <unimatrix9> dury , but it does not start you said?
[18:07] <kristian_> when i unrar several files in terminal using unrar, it will finish at 50% and then say All ok, and the file unrar seems to be ok. but how come it only goes to 50%? anyone got any ideas?
[18:07] <melrockz> does banshee have equaliser settings? (rock, pop, jazz)
[18:07] <dury> unmatrix9: you misunderstood it's audacious
[18:07] <unimatrix9> so clearly something is wrong
[18:08] <unimatrix9> ah
[18:08] <unimatrix9> hehe
[18:08] <sebsebseb> melrockz: not sure what you mean by that
[18:08] <DoctorDebian> Hey everyone, will ext4 be included in the 9.04?
[18:08] <unimatrix9> sudo apt-get install audacious
[18:08] <happy_> how do I get modprobe to load md automatically
[18:08] <sebsebseb> melrockz: ok just looked there is some sort of equlizer thing
[18:08] <DoctorDebian> @happy_: /etc/modules
[18:08] <unimatrix9> dury : no broken packages or something like that?
[18:09] <sebsebseb> DoctorDebian: yes, but it's not that stable yet
[18:09] <DoctorDebian> I believe
[18:09] <dury> unmatrix9: it's installed
[18:09] <DoctorDebian> Okay, thanks.
[18:09] <dury> unmatrix9: I don't know
[18:09] <sebsebseb> DoctorDebian: oh and for any other questions to do with that one #ubuntu+1
[18:09] <dury> wasting time for me :(
[18:10] <Whitor> Hi, How can I see a list of serial ports that are available on my system? I'm trying to access a COM port on a PCMCIA card
[18:10] <unimatrix9> dury , okey, try the next thing, open an gnome terminal on your desktop and start audacious from the command line
[18:10] <DoctorDebian> -
[18:10] <DoctorDebian> oops >.>
[18:10] <dury> unmatrix9: did that too :(
[18:10] <unimatrix9> hmm
[18:10] <unimatrix9> strange
[18:11] <dury> yeah it is
[18:11] <Whitor> When I plug the decive in, dmesg shows[14131.347795] 0.0: ttyS0 at I/O 0x8108 (irq = 3) is a 16450
[18:11] <dury> gesss :(
[18:11] <AeGu2> Can some one help me. I tried starting up my machine this morning and it for some reason stopped working. at first it was saying that there was a problem with startx so i went in to recovery mode and ran the startx fix. Then it still was not working so i went and ran all the other fixes in recovery mode with no success. the error that is coming up now is. "Doing wacom setup failed" any suggestions on what I should do?
[18:11] <unimatrix9> dury , your sound card works?
[18:11] <happy_> doctordebian:thanks I put md in /etc/modprobe
[18:11] <unimatrix9> dury , whats the ubuntu version, and do you know what soundcard? onboard?
[18:11] <DoctorDebian> :)
[18:12] <dury> unmatrix9: of course it does
[18:12] <dury> hardy 8.04.2
[18:12] <sipior> Whitor: sounds like /dev/ttyS0 is the device you want
[18:12] <noteventime> Is there some neat way to have a second wine installation in Ubuntu?
[18:13] <sebsebseb> noteventime: yes there is I belive uhmmmmm  go find out in #winehq
[18:13] <sebsebseb> noteventime: yeah wine prefix or whatever
[18:13] <TheFunkbomb> Hi, I'm trying to get my PCI1620 card reader to work.
[18:13] <Whitor> sipior, yeah ... but when I try to use /dev/ttyS0  I get minicom: cannot open /dev/ttyS0: No such device
[18:13] <Whitor> wait ... let me try sudo
[18:13] <TheFunkbomb> It's a Texas Instrument internal card reader
[18:13] <Laundry> if ubuntu has a driver for my usb wireless adapter and i want to use it with another os, how would i find out which driver it is/be able to use it with the other distro
[18:14] <unimatrix9> dury, looking at the bug sites if there is any others with same problems
[18:14] <noteventime> sebsebseb: That's not what I need :)
[18:14] <DoctorDebian> How can I get "su -c" to assign the home directory to my regular user's home?
[18:14] <noteventime> sebsebseb: I need to run both the stable and the unstable wine version
[18:14] <DoctorDebian> It works with sudo.
[18:14] <dury> unmatrix9: where is that
[18:14] <soreau> So wubi is on the installer cd?
[18:15] <sebsebseb> soreau: Wubi is a way to put Ubuntu inside your Windows partition, hence why I woudn't normalley recommend it
[18:15] <sebsebseb> soreau: it is best to boot from the Ubuntu Live CD, and put Ubuntu on for real by partitining your hard disk
[18:15] <soreau> sebsebseb: That is not working for this crappy laptop
[18:16] <sebsebseb> soreau: how old is it?
[18:16] <sipior> Whitor: possible that udev didn't generate the device file properly for you. you can make another with the mknod command: "mknod /dev/ttyS0 c 4 64" should do the trick. make sure the permissions are correct. should be "crw-rw----", owned by root with group dialout.
[18:16] <soreau> sebsebseb: I thought wubi was a way to install ubuntu to it's own partition from windows
[18:16] <jester7> is anybody here familiar with software raid and mdadm?
[18:16] <sebsebseb> soreau: no it's not
[18:16] <unimatrix9> dury : here is the bug , that is simular to what you discribe https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/audacious/+bug/219035
[18:16] <soreau> sebsebseb: This laptop is a toshiba satellite A45-S120
[18:16] <unimatrix9> maybe you can get an clue as how to solve it
[18:17] <unimatrix9> from there
[18:17] <sipior> Whitor: oh, and make sure your login is also a member of the dialout group :-)
[18:17] <soreau> sebsebseb: and I'm catching all hell trying to simply install ubuntu
[18:17] <sebsebseb> soreau: ok how much RAM?
[18:17] <Whitor> sipior, thanks ... and it was that I needed to use sudo to access the port
[18:17] <soreau> sebsebseb: 238MB
[18:18] <soreau> not enough
[18:18] <sebsebseb> soreau: will the Live CD boot at all?
[18:18] <sipior> Whitor: simple solutions are always nice :-)
[18:18] <jumar> soreau, why dont you try xubuntu, the xfce version of ubuntu?
[18:18] <sebsebseb> soreau: did you mean 256?
[18:18] <soreau> sebsebseb: With the 8.04 and 8.10 alternate installers, it refuses to create the ext3 file system
[18:18] <unimatrix9> to low mem
[18:18] <soreau> sebsebseb: No, it's shared VRAM so it's less
[18:18] <jester7> is there a channel for more advanced questions?  nobody seems to be able to answer anything greater than "how do i change my wallpaper?" in here :(
[18:18] <sebsebseb> soreau: alternate hummmmm  the desktop cd won't boot at all?
[18:19] <unimatrix9> add memory its cheap
[18:19] <sipior> jester7: the problem might be that you didn't ask a very good question. why not try again?
[18:19] <sebsebseb> soreau: ok I have a trick up my sleeve which makes it so later destop live cd's will boot up nicely on 128MB RAM
[18:19] <jester7> sorry...
[18:19] <jester7> is anybody here familiar with software raid and mdadm?
[18:19] <soreau> sebsebseb: It boots incompletely. X starts then nothing. Black screen with mouse for both 8.10 and 8.04
[18:19] <sebsebseb> soreau: ok  I have an idea
[18:19] <sebsebseb> soreau: two ideas even :d
[18:19] <soreau> sebsebseb: Please let me know
[18:19] <sipior> jester7: see that's a general question which tells us nothing. more details?
[18:19] <soreau> I'm will to try anything
[18:20] <sebsebseb> soreau: download the gparted live cd, and put on a 512mb or so linux swap partition
[18:20] <sebsebseb> soreau: then try later desktop CD's agian, also make sure to md5sum them
[18:20] <sebsebseb> !md5sum
[18:20] <soreau> sebsebseb: gparted live cd, huh
[18:20] <jumar> jester7 check this out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=408461
[18:21] <soreau> I just used my last burnable disc
[18:21] <sebsebseb> soreau: with 128MB RAM, later versions of the ubuntu desktop cd's won't even boot, unless that swap partition trick has been done
[18:21] <Xerran> Hello all
[18:21] <sebsebseb> !gparted
[18:21] <jester7> sipior:  i'd like to know if i manually fail one of the drives in a raid1 (mdadm -fail), is there a way to "unfail" it without repartitioning and adding it back to the raid
[18:21] <sebsebseb> Xerran: hello
[18:21] <soreau> sebsebseb: Well I'm out of discs to burn isos
[18:21] <igascream> I have a question about ext4 . Is it save to switch from ext3 to ext4 ? What exactly it do with partition while setting it to ext4 ? And is it possible to lose data?
[18:21] <sebsebseb> soreau: maybe you can make a bootable USB stick
[18:21] <azlon> looking for a good tool to readjust some partition sizes
[18:22] <soreau> sebsebseb: Not on this old dinosaur
[18:22] <danbhfive> igascream: ask in +1
[18:22] <soreau> sebsebseb: What was your other idea ?
[18:22] <sebsebseb> igascream: Ext4 is not that stable yet, best to stay with Ext3 for now as a result
[18:22] <sipior> jester7: that's a much better question. now, address it to the whole channel, so you can take advantage of our combined experience :-)
[18:22] <ganni> how to install realone player for my ubuntu 8.10 ?
[18:22] <sebsebseb> igascream: ,but yes Ext4 is an option in the next Ubuntu
[18:22] <Voltaplein> Hi  -- question about ifdown and ifup.  if I enter "ifdown eth0" I get the message: "ifdown: interface eth0 not configured" which is not true according to the command "ifconfig eth0".  Is this a bug?
[18:22] <sebsebseb> soreau: run another distro such as PuppyLinux
[18:22] <jester7> i'd like to know if i manually fail one of the drives in a raid1 (mdadm -fail), is there a way to "unfail" it without repartitioning and adding it back to the raid
[18:22] <sebsebseb> soreau: that works well with old hardware
[18:22] <soreau> sebsebseb: Ok, thanks
[18:23] <sebsebseb> soreau: oh and there's damn small Linux, but  that's not amazing
[18:23] <unimatrix9> ext 3 is the stable and save way to go, ext 4 is still under development, but is nearly ready
[18:23] <unimatrix9> !ext4
[18:23] <sebsebseb> soreau: so you tried Wubi?
[18:23] <soreau> sebsebseb: DSL boots the thing fine
[18:23] <soreau> sebsebseb: No, I have not tried wubi
[18:23] <sebsebseb> soreau: and Xubuntu could work
[18:23] <happy_> my raid array disappears after I reboot and when I try to mount I'm told "mount: you must specify the filesystem type"
[18:23] <kristian_> when i unrar several files in terminal using unrar, it will finish at 50% and then say All ok, and the file unrar seems to be ok. but how come it only goes to 50%? anyone got any ideas?
[18:23] <soreau> sebsebseb: ok
[18:23] <sebsebseb> soreau: I woudn't normalely recommend wubi, but if you can't install something properly onto the hard disk
[18:23] <sebsebseb> !install
[18:24] <anki1> @ganni-------download realplayer bin file and install it.
[18:24] <Xerran> Curious....once you have finished installing 8.10, is it necessary to install every single update?
[18:24] <sebsebseb> soreau: which Windows does it have on there?
[18:24] <sebsebseb> Xerran: yes you should do all the security updates always
[18:24] <soreau> sebsebseb: It's a xp pro
[18:24] <igascream> ok thank you I'll prefer to wait to the stable stage
[18:24] <sebsebseb> soreau: so  no CD's,  can't just go buy some either?   I guess bootable USB stick option is out as well
[18:24] <jester7> actually, ext4 is now considered stable i believe
[18:25] <sebsebseb> find out about Ext4 in  #ubuntu+1
[18:25] <sebsebseb> it's offtopic here
[18:25] <Xerran> I know the security is essential. I'm curious in regards to the other updates
[18:25] <tramsie> i'm having a hard time getting Synaptic to work what is the command for that?
[18:25] <tramsie> ~ $ Synaptic
[18:25] <tramsie> bash: Synaptic: command not found
[18:25] <sebsebseb> soreau: you can try Wubi
[18:25] <jumar> tramsie gksudo synaptic
[18:25] <danbhfive> Xerran: well, you can look at the changelogs for the packages, if you care that much about it
[18:26] <jumar> without initials
[18:26] <sebsebseb> soreau: ,but then later on you should partition your hard disk for real
[18:26] <soreau> sebsebseb: I've already sized the partition for ugh
[18:26] <tramsie> why wouldn't it work with just synaptic?
[18:26] <jester7> i'd like to know if i manually fail one of the drives in a raid1 (mdadm -fail), is there a way to "unfail" it without repartitioning and adding it back to the raid
[18:26] <sebsebseb> soreau: wubi installs Ubuntu in a part of your Windows partition
[18:26] <jumar> because to install software you gotta be an administrator
[18:26] <Xerran> what do you guys do?..do you install every single update?
[18:26] <soreau> sebsebseb: On ntfs?
[18:26] <sebsebseb> soreau: yes
[18:26] <soreau> that sucks :p
[18:27] <sipior> jester7: have you removed it from the raid, or just failed it? can you just add it back in as a spare?
[18:27] <soreau> sebsebseb: I didn't know it worked like that
[18:27] <sebsebseb> soreau: then you get the Windows boot loader and Grub, and you can uninstall wubi like if it was a normal Windows program
[18:27] <jester7> sipior: i haven't done it yet. :)  i actually just want to test the failover
[18:27] <sebsebseb> soreau: like you said that sucks, sure normalley, but in your case as a tempory thing I guess it will be ok
[18:27] <macman> can i turn off journaling on osx via linux for like 1 hour ?
[18:27] <jester7> sipior: and my plan was to simply fail it and not remove it
[18:27] <soreau> sebsebseb: Ok, thanks for the info
[18:27] <tramsie> why wouldn't it work with just synaptic?
[18:28] <sebsebseb> soreau: then partition later when you can install it for real from a CD or  USB stick
[18:28] <tramsie> should I use as root: sudo synaptic ?
[18:28] <jumar> yes
[18:28] <danbhfive> tramsie: no, use gksu synaptic
[18:28] <sebsebseb> dooglus: heh it's you
[18:28] <tramsie> whats the diff?
[18:28] <danbhfive> !gksu | tramsie
[18:28] <jumar> from terminal, i dont use synaptic as user, once accidentally started it, but its good for nothing then
[18:29] <sebsebseb> soreau: you can also run Ubuntu or other distros inside Windows
[18:29] <sebsebseb> soreau: if you got enough RAM, I think you will probably be just about ok
[18:29] <sebsebseb> soreau: may be a bit slow with that amount of RAM though
[18:29] <soreau> sebsebseb: I know how vm's work, just not wubi
[18:29] <sebsebseb> !wubi
[18:30] <hbit> Hello everyone, I'm trying to web browse over the wifi and  connect to a PC for service through ethernet (no internet needed)...nm-applet only shows one device at the time, how can I make it work?
[18:30] <sipior> jester7: ah, then yeah, you should be able to fail it, remove it from the array and add it back in. i had a look at the man page to check, and there doesn't appear to be an "unfail" command as such. normally you fail then remove. check out the "Simulating a drive failure" section of: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Software-RAID-HOWTO-6.html
[18:30] <sebsebseb> hbit: you can make it work by messaging xray7224,  they are good with wireless issues
[18:30] <sebsebseb> hbit: and stuff like that
[18:30] <jester7> sipior: PERFECT...thanks for the link
[18:31] <sebsebseb> hbit: and they said I could tell a few people to message them :D
[18:32] <hbit> sebsebseb:  gee there seems to be nice ppl in the world yet ...thanx
[18:32] <sebsebseb> hbit: the im says they are away right now, but if that's the case, they will be back soon I expect
[18:32] <dury> bbl
[18:38] <TheFunkbomb> How do I configure inputdevices through terminal?
[18:39] <falkinski> When I try to move a file to a ntfs external drive (under sudo) i get mv: inter-device move failed: unable to remove target: Read-only file system. What is the problem? Happend after my friend who has a mac borrowed the drive
[18:39] <happy_> anyone know where can i find raid help?
[18:40] <MNZ> hi, I'm using wubi and I tried to upgrade the kernel. I get errors during the post-installation scripts. Now I would like to return everything to normal. Every time I try to install something it tries to set up the kernel packages
[18:40] <wng-> Anyone have any tips on upgrading the kernel on a persistant LiveUSB drive, need to change CONFIG_NR_CPUS to more than 8
[18:41] <Picassotamus> !raid | happy_
[18:41] <CosmiChaos> Does somebody know how to enable nautilus to create thumbnails for mpeg and x264??? I have it working for xvid, all unstripped packages and thumbnailers installed. Please help.
[18:42] <happy_> ubottu: thanks, i followed those guides and in the past they worked for me but now my raid disappears on reboot and i have to rebuild it every time
[18:43] <pronoy> how to order jaunty cds...
[18:44] <pronoy> or rather preorder
[18:44] <sebsebseb> pronoy: you can't yet
[18:44] <pronoy> man...
[18:46] <jcmax> dump
[18:46] <jcmax> hello
[18:46] <jcmax> yo
[18:46] <sebsebseb> jcmax: hi
[18:47] <xbaez> hi
[18:47] <xbaez> there is some issue for intel graphic
[18:47] <xbaez> yesterday my resolution was ok today is so bad :(
[18:47] <LakesProse> can smb over ssh when user is shell-less ?
[18:48] <gaintsura_mibbit> so... compiz crashed, and I can't get it to start, Firefox is the only window I have access to right now.. I can ctrl+alt+F{1-6}, but I can't start compiz on there.. any ideas?
[18:48] <xbaez> my graphic card is VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82945G/GZ Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
[18:49] <jcmax> hey yo i have question about wine what about if i will copy windows libraries from windows
[18:49] <xbaez> logs said this intel(0): I2C device "CRTDDC_A:ddc2" registered at address 0xA0.
[18:49] <jcmax> ineed know it possible to install  reason 4 and other software
[18:49] <jcmax> ?
[18:50] <soumonsi> read movie i firefox
[18:50] <soumonsi> add-on
[18:50] <soumonsi> ??
[18:51] <danbhfive> !appdb | jcmax
[18:51] <soumonsi> help me
[18:51] <soumonsi> !!!
[18:51] <sebsebseb> with what?
[18:51] <zelasko> ive got a problem. since i activated intrepid-proposed and installed the updates, compiz wont work
[18:51] <soumonsi> add_on i firefox
[18:52] <Voltaplein> Hi  -- question about ifdown and ifup.  if I enter "ifdown eth0" I get the message: "ifdown: interface eth0 not configured" which is not true according to the command "ifconfig eth0".  Is this a bug?
[18:52] <gRunt> Hi all I have a realktek usb wireless card http://imagebin.org/41000 by all accounts the drivers are actually part of the latest distro. But it didn't recognise and install is there a way I can install them manually through a command line or something and how would I go about that?
[18:52] <jcmax> thanx
[18:52] <Veinor> Voltaplein: use ifconfig eth0 down
[18:52] <Veinor> (with sudo of course)
[18:53] <Veinor> and use ifconfig eth0 up instead of ifup
[18:53] <wng-> Anyone have any tips on upgrading the kernel on a persistant LiveUSB drive, need to change CONFIG_NR_CPUS to more than 8
[18:53] <WFS> Grr i wanna scream
[18:53] <johnnybates> I'm setting up Ubuntu and XBMC on a home theater PC. Where do you suggest I store all the media files so that all users can access them?
[18:54] <gRunt> Hi all I have a realktek usb wireless card http://imagebin.org/41000 by all accounts the drivers are actually part of the latest distro. But it didn't recognise and install is there a way I can install them manually through a command line or something and how would I go about that?
[18:54] <WFS> why is it so hard to install pidgin-packk-2.5.1 ???
[18:54] <AeGu2> hey can someone help me my xserver is not working? I tried the recovery mode but that didnt work what should i do?
[18:55] <Voltaplein> Veinor: OK, but are ifup and ifdown broken?
[18:55] <danbhfive> AeGu2: how did it break?
[18:55] <xbaez> AeGu2, what kind of issue do you have ?
[18:55] <Veinor> Voltaplein: Nah, they just rely on your system being configured in a particular way
[18:55] <xbaez> AeGu2, the resolution ?
[18:55] <AeGu2> Yesterday i ran a apt update and then rebooted and now its not working
[18:55] <Veinor> which networkmanager doesn't use
[18:56] <dementorr> hy i need some help becouse im new whit linx ,i instal verlihub but i canot run any lua scripts
[18:56] <AeGu2> Im also getting the error at start up doing wacom setup :Failed
[18:56] <xbaez> AeGu2, all xserver is not working ? what graphic card do you have ?
[18:56] <azlon> looking for a good tool to readjust some partition sizes
[18:56] <Veinor> azlon: gparted?
[18:57] <danbhfive> !partition | azlon
[18:57] <johnnybates> just boot the live cd and use the partition manager
[18:57] <AeGu2> nvidia geforce go 7900 gs
[18:58] <xbaez> AeGu2, oh ok we have different issue then
[18:59] <AeGu2> It tried doing the update but then it wanted to keep doing a partical update and it was failing.
[18:59] <AeGu2> whats the issue?
[18:59] <WFS> how do you install pidgin-plug-in-pack
[18:59] <DJ_CJ>  i need help with scripts any1 good with them??
[19:00] <Veinor> WFS: from the terminal: sudo apt-get install pidgin-plugin-pack
[19:00] <brightjoker> I just plugged in my netgear usb wireless adapter and it is connected, however low signal, even though im in the same room as my router, do i need to ndiswrapper the driver even though my computer is detecting it?
[19:00] <dhcrawford> has anyone had issues with SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) using module=snd_hda_intel running ALSA as the main sound server?
[19:00] <sixofour> what is the general mount command?
[19:00] <sixofour> sudo mount /location/of/partition /location/of/mountpoint ?
[19:00] <dhcrawford> I have no sound with this config, I've tried pulseaudio as well, which I have no turned off??
[19:01] <WFS> thhats it?
[19:01] <DJ_CJ>  plz pm me if u are any good with scripts
[19:01] <lenni_-_> what is the cli way of going from one release to the next?
[19:02] <danbhfive> DJ_CJ: maybe try #bash?
[19:02] <danbhfive> !upgrade | lenni_-_
[19:02] <DJ_CJ>  ty danbhfive
[19:03] <Voltaplein> Veinor: thanks!
[19:03] <Iceman_B^Ltop> my screen(app) seems to be frozen
[19:04] <Iceman_B^Ltop> how do I thaw it out ?
[19:04] <lenni_-_> is my paranoia of updating to the next release without me being there justified?
[19:04] <brightjoker> any ideas on how to improve the signal strength of my wireless?  do i need to add the driver?
[19:04] <lenni_-_> i mean i'm only across the city but i am scared that it won't boot up
[19:04] <cristi> Iceman_B^Ltop: you can use the force quit application?
[19:04] <WFS> thanks whoever helped me
[19:05] <Iceman_B^Ltop> cristi: nono, I mean the screen doesnt seem to update anymore
[19:05] <Iceman_B^Ltop> I cna switch between different windows
[19:05] <Iceman_B^Ltop> and the other one does update
[19:05] <pietrek> hi:)
[19:05] <chamunks> If im using phpmyadmin to backup mysql databases and am not sure what my passwords i used are will that matter when i have moved to the new server ubuntu server?
[19:05] <Iceman_B^Ltop> either that or I froze irssi somehow
[19:05] <cristi> Iceman_B^Ltop: lol never happened before, sorry i don't know what to say. Maybe you messed around with the compiz-settings
[19:06] <sixofour> what command can show me all partitions and the used/free /max space left on them?
[19:06] <Scunizi> chamunks: if you receive no answer here you might try #ubuntu-server or ##linux
[19:06] <danbhfive> sixofour: du
[19:06] <cristi> sixofour: try fdisk i think
[19:06] <sixofour> just type du?
[19:06] <sixofour> fdisk
[19:06] <chamunks> Scunizi, thanks!
[19:06] <Spook> hello everybody
[19:06] <danbhfive> sixofour: well, I like du -h
[19:06] <dementorr> hy i need some help becouse im new whit linx ,i instal verlihub but i canot run any lua scripts
[19:06] <sixofour> what does du -h mean/do?
[19:06] <cristi> sixofour: sudo fdisk -l
[19:07] <danbhfive> sixofour: o wait, maybe its df
[19:07] <evilfix> df -a
[19:07] <sixofour> ok so which should i use? lol
[19:07] <evilfix> df -a
[19:07] <sixofour> whcih gives more information on the parts
[19:08] <TheNano_> sixofour: "df -h  "  h stands for human so you can read sizes
[19:08] <Iceman_B^Ltop> cristi: I;m using putty to connect to a headless ubuntu 8.10 machine, which is running irssi in screen :)
[19:10] <sixofour> if i do a ctrl+alt+"F command" how do i get out?
[19:11] <danbhfive> sixofour: try the F7 one
[19:11] <Veinor> press it again
[19:11] <Veinor> ohhh
[19:11] <Veinor> you meant ctrl-alt-f1 or whatever
[19:11] <Veinor> yeah, ctrl-alt-f7
[19:12] <Suhail> Hey guys for some reason my logrotate.d seems to not be running on some nginx logs files being generated, any ideas?
[19:12] <sixofour> like yesterday i did ctrl alt F1 and couldn't get out, and it was at a crtical time which resulted in me having to reinstall kubuntu
[19:12] <killfill> hi
[19:12] <sixofour> so i need to know how to get out for future reference
[19:12] <sixofour> ctrl alt f7 are you sure?
[19:12] <killfill> how can i install mono 2.0.1 or 2.2 in ubuntu 8.10?
[19:13] <dury> hi there :)
[19:13] <johnnybates> I setup a shared directory that i'm connected to over Samba. The dir is owned by me:htpcusers and i am connected as me over samba from a mac. when i make a new directory, i cannot see it in Finder
[19:13] <dury> success with audacious
[19:13] <johnnybates> when i look at that new directory on the server, it's not owned by me:htpcusers but rather me:me
[19:13] <dury> sebsebseb: are you there?
[19:14] <sebsebseb> dury: yes
[19:14] <dury> sebsebseb: right... success with audacvious
[19:14] <dury> sorry audacious
[19:15] <CrIP> whats the sudo apt-get cmd to dowload eggdrop latest ver ?
[19:16] <sebsebseb> dury: ok
[19:16] <tobz> Hi i have a question, i am new to linux and Ubuntu. How do i connect to internet thru my Sony ericson W890i 3g phone
[19:16] <Pici> CrIP: sudo apt-get install eggdrop
[19:17] <dury> sebsebseb: I have another hazel with grub... which is didn't respect the other HardDisk which is mandriva in it
[19:17] <CrIP> cheers pici
[19:18] <CrIP> it wered well
[19:18] <sebsebseb> dury: ok so edit  the menu.lst   sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[19:18] <sebsebseb> oh gksudo even
[19:19] <QQQ> how many swap is needed for hibernation?   (I have 1GB ram and 1.01GB swap and even with an empty swap it does not hibernate)
[19:19] <QQQ> I'd resize as much as needed and as little as possible
[19:19] <Veinor> QQQ: i think you should add an extra gig or so of swap
[19:20] <QQQ> Veinor: I have 7GB drive space, eery MB is holy
[19:20] <dementorr> hy i need some help becouse im new whit linx ,i instal verlihub but i canot run any lua scripts
[19:20] <tobz> has anyone som esperience whit conecting to the intenet true a 3g phone and assist me
[19:20] <Veinor> QQQ: ahhh... then I dunno.
[19:20] <dury> sebsebseb: I'm in /boot/grub/menu.lst with gedit
[19:21] <QQQ> Veinor: I thought the RAM image was compressed
[19:21] <sixofour> how do i navigate folders and such in konsole?
[19:21] <sebsebseb> dury: oh right yeah you got to add mandriva to it
[19:21] <Veinor> QQQ: I honestly have no clue myself. Try adding like 300 MB or something, I dunno
[19:21] <QQQ> Veinor: k, thx
[19:21] <MasterZ> dang, I started formatting my hard drives 5 hours ago... just woke up and it has not even finished the first one yet lol
[19:22] <sebsebseb> dury: maybe Mandriva went bye bye when you installed Ubuntu hum
[19:22] <a34lkj2348dsf311> Is there a way for Server 2003 to push out an image of Ubuntu to client?
[19:22] <dury> sebsebseb: not really
[19:23] <jim_p> hi people
[19:23] <Guest34183> Alright, been a few years since being on IRC
[19:23] <sebsebseb> jim_p: hi
[19:23] <Guest34183> I need help with Ubuntu..
[19:23] <jim_p> how can i do the automount thing in a server installation?
[19:23] <helper> anyone has used mikrotik ?
[19:23] <dury> sebsebseb: but now doesn't but that disk
[19:23] <crazEgamer201> Guys I have recently upgraded from ubuntu hardy heron to intrepid ibex and my system is no longer stable. Is there a way for me to downgrade back to hardy?
[19:24] <jim_p> i want for instance to put my disk in the drive, wait a small amount of time, and it will auto mount it in /media/cdrom
[19:24] <AnDyPaTcHeS> I'm having a weird wireless problem. I've loaded the driver with ndiswrapper, I've used modprobe, everything shows up in iwconfig, I can ping my router, and I can ping websites. However, i still can't connect to the internet, and network manager shows my connection as not connected.
[19:24] <sebsebseb> Guest34183: ok what kind of help?
[19:24] <sebsebseb> !ask
[19:24] <jim_p> crazEgamer201, actually no. if you have a seperate /home partition, reinstall
[19:24] <Guest34183> .....embarrassed to say, but.. how do I install MonoDevelp (And anyother application that I need)
[19:25] <Veinor> crazEgamer201: and if you don't have a separate /home partition and you decide to reinstall... make a separate /home partition :P
[19:25] <jim_p> Guest34183, sudo apt-get install packagename
[19:25] <crazEgamer201> Right, thanks jim_p
[19:25] <QQQ> Guest34183 or you run the synaptic paket manager and search for it
[19:25] <jim_p> crazEgamer201, are you on ati by any chance?
[19:25] <jim_p> you are welcome
[19:25] <crazEgamer201> Yes actually jim_p
[19:25] <QQQ> Guest34183 (somewhere in the preferences)
[19:26] <crazEgamer201> I am, installed the driver for my screencard just before the upgrade
[19:26] <jim_p> crazEgamer201, then stay to 8.04 as long as you can. and pray to god for ati to make a proper driver
[19:26] <Guest34183> ....sybaptic paket manager? (Sorry, I just installed linux this morning.. am a upset windows user who wants to switch)
[19:26] <jim_p> thats what i do
[19:26] <MasterZ> I installed gparted to manage the formatting of my hard drives, is there a command line way to see what the percent done is?
[19:26] <crazEgamer201> Your kidding me... That stability problem is caused by ATI?
[19:26] <jim_p> Guest34183, System > Administration > Package manager
[19:27] <rdw200169> MasterZ, you can do the whole thing from the command line using parted
[19:27] <QQQ> Guest34183 okey, linux has "packets" instead of programms you install
[19:27] <QQQ> Guest34183 so two programms con use the same packet if they both need it
[19:27] <jim_p> crazEgamer201, no, but ati is a major reason to stick to 8.04 and corg 1.4
[19:27] <jim_p> *xorg
[19:27] <MasterZ> i already started the format 5 hours ago and it's still going, I dont' want to have to run to my basement to check the gui to see if it's done lol
[19:27] <QQQ> Guest34183 go to System - Systemadministration - Synaptic packet manager
[19:28] <Guest34183> in there.. :-)
[19:28] <rdw200169> MasterZ, you're trying to format a USB drive, right?
[19:28] <MasterZ> yes
[19:28] <angry> Is there a way for Server 2003 to push out an image of Ubuntu to client?
[19:28] <QQQ> Guest34183 search for whatever you need and rightclick - mark for install
[19:28] <crazEgamer201> Right, well thanks, I guess I'm off to back up 200 gigs of stuff and then reformat a 500 gig drive to run ubuntu lol
[19:28] <jim_p> angry, through samba maybe?
[19:28] <crazEgamer201> Thanks for the help :)
[19:28] <Guest34183> so this the equivilent to add/remove programs in Windows?
[19:28] <rdw200169> MasterZ, it shouldn't take near that long, but i've heard of many people having problems (like that) trying to format USB drives...
[19:28] <QQQ> Guest34183 yes
[19:28] <Veinor> Guest34183: yeah, except it can actually add programs :D
[19:28] <Guest34183> Bonus!
[19:28] <jim_p> Guest34183, its more that that
[19:28] <dementorr> hy i need some help becouse im new whit linx ,i instal verlihub but i canot run any lua scripts
[19:28] <oshua86> Hey guys, do you know if there is any kind of desktop sharing app for ubuntu?
[19:28] <QQQ> Guest34183 but its actually a real "add" in there
[19:28] <MasterZ> i'ts a 1 TB  drive... and I have 3 of them... has not even finished the first one yet
[19:29] <Veinor> as opposed to add/remove programs, which nobody ever uses to install things
[19:29] <Veinor> it's also an auto-updater
[19:29] <jim_p> oshua86, like p2p?
[19:29] <Guest34183> :D was reading online about installing source and what not.. and started to ... give me a head ache. lol
[19:29] <Veinor> oshua86: what do you mean 'desktop sharing'? like vnc?
[19:29] <MasterZ> rdw200169 it's supposed to be USB 2.0, I wasn't expecting it to be nearly this long lol
[19:29] <Veinor> compiling from source isn't usually too hard
[19:29] <jim_p> Veinor, (at least you saw the "desktop" word" ) :P
[19:29] <QQQ> Guest34183 even easier is the "add/remove" dialog, but the choise  is not as big there
[19:30] <angry> jim_p, I was thinking of using Server 2003 as the image server
[19:30] <sixofour> how do i "get to" a certain folder in konsole?
[19:30] <OsamaK> is there a deb version of Gnash 0.8.5?
[19:30] <oshua86> jim_p, Veinor, no I mean like GoToAssist or WebEx
[19:30] <angry> jim_p, and it would push out an image of Ubuntu to anyone that connected via PXE
[19:30] <keithclark> I found a .ppd file that is supposed to work better with my FX-850 printer and was just wondering how to make use of it?
[19:30] <rdw200169> MasterZ, we couldn't figure out at the time why USB was taking so long.  it didn't matter then, either, that it was USB 2.0
[19:30] <OsamaK> sixofour, "cd path/to/folder"?
[19:30] <Guest34183> ....ok next questions, I've searched MonoDevelop, and it give me 6 different...Packages? eg. MonoDevelop-boo
[19:30] <AnDyPaTcHeS> When I do a "sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid xxxxx", where do I enter the WEP code?
[19:30] <jim_p> angry, like a means of installation? yea it can be done, i dont know how though
[19:30] <sixofour> so cd /mnt/104 to get the my 104gb partition?
[19:30] <Veinor> oshua86: what does VLC not do that you need?
[19:31] <rdw200169> MasterZ, you should check your /var/log/messages for USB errors...
[19:31] <MasterZ> rdw200169: sigh... guess I will not get my network file server up until tomorrow
[19:31] <sixofour> [the mount point is /mnt/104" lol
[19:31] <dury> sebsebseb: but now doesn't boot that disk
[19:31] <QQQ> Guest34183: read in the descriptions, usually one is the main programm and the rest will come along never the less (it will be selected when you mark the main thing for install)
[19:31] <rdw200169> AnDyPaTcHeS, sudo iwconfig wlan0 key
[19:31] <Guest72276> XAU
[19:31] <jim_p> AnDyPaTcHeS, give me a sec to ssh to the laptop, i think its in there
[19:31] <angry> jim_p, ok, I was just looking to see if it was possible
[19:31] <Guest72276> XAU
[19:31] <jim_p> thanks rdw200169
[19:31] <angry> jim_p, before I embark on an impossible mission
[19:31] <Guest72276>  :D
[19:32] <rdw200169> AnDyPaTcHeS, check the manpage, they explain how the keytypes (etc..) works,
[19:32] <MasterZ> rdw200169: I'll look
[19:32] <OsamaK> sixofour, it's not sorted by size. go to 'cd /media' and type 'dir', you will find all mounted partitions.
[19:32] <sixofour> no i mounted it that way myself
[19:32] <jim_p> how can i do the automount thing in a server installation? i want for instance to put my disk in the drive, wait a small amount of time, and it will auto mount it in /media/cdrom
[19:32] <sixofour> i have a 160gb drive, i split it into 104 and 42 gb partitions
[19:32] <sebsebseb> dury: is Mandriva still there? can you access it from  /mnt/  or /media?
[19:32] <sebsebseb> or from places computer
[19:32] <sixofour> ./mnt/104/ and /mnt/42/ it worked anyways
[19:33] <nood> why 104GB and not 100GB?
[19:33] <Guest34183> If I install all of them, do you think it will cause any problems? The other packages are plugins
[19:33] <nood> :D
[19:33] <oshua86> Veinor< I dont know, let me find out what that is
[19:33] <sixofour> no idea lol
[19:33] <sixofour> i just randomly resized them lol
[19:33] <Veinor> oshua86: it lets someone remote control your desktop basically
[19:33] <nood> lol
[19:33] <Veinor> it's kind of bare bones
[19:33] <QQQ> Guest34183: it would tell you if it did
[19:33] <jim_p> sixofour, nice mount names. i wonder why i named mine "large" and "windows"
[19:33] <Veinor> i name my mounts after the machine they're on
[19:33] <Veinor> so like, nightwing, confusion, zodiark, zodiark_e
[19:33] <sixofour> confusion?
[19:34] <oshua86> Veinor, it says its a videoLAN client
[19:34] <oshua86> is that the one?
[19:34] <OsamaK> sixofour, hum in my case, they aren't named by size, I have sda1,sda2 and so on.
[19:34] <MasterZ> rdw200169: I don't see anything... the only weird thing is several entries that just says : Mar 11 13:33:36 filesrv1 -- MARK --
[19:34] <sixofour> the drives are sdb1 sdb2 and sdb3
[19:34] <Veinor> oshua86: I meant VNC
[19:34] <sixofour> but the mount points are 104 and 42 [and the other is a swap
[19:34] <sixofour> do i have to mount a swap?
[19:35] <sixofour> linux-swap drive
[19:35] <sixofour> and will kubuntu use this swap even though its on a seperate drive?
[19:35] <AnDyPaTcHeS> When I do an iwconfig, should the MAC address uner "Acess Point" be exactly the same as the one set for my router? It's off by one digit.
[19:35] <oshua86> |#ubuntu      ]
[19:35] <oshua86> [#ubuntu]
[19:35] <jim_p> sixofour, use fstab to inform the system where the swap is
[19:35] <sixofour> what does fstab do?
[19:35] <Guest34183> It's installing now :-) anything else I should be aware of? any surprises that may occure?
[19:35] <azlon> how can i find out what version of gnome i have?
[19:36] <oshua86> Veinor, hmm yeah but that kind is not what I am looking for
[19:36] <QQQ> Guest34183: I hope not :)
[19:36] <Veinor> oshua86: what're you looking for then exactly? what do you need that VNC doesn't have?
[19:36] <sixofour> if i have konsole unraring something can i safly open another konsole and continue doing stuff?
[19:36] <Veinor> sixofour: yeah, just don't close that open konsole
[19:36] <jim_p> sixofour, it mounts internal drives and partitions to specific folders. fstab = FileSystem TABle
[19:36] <sixofour> command not found
[19:37] <MasterZ> so is there a command I can do to check the status of gparted?
[19:37] <dury> be back later
[19:37] <QQQ> sixofour: with "terminator" you can even split the console window
[19:37] <Guest34183> Is this manager the only place I can install programs? or can I download packages of the internet, and install, something similar to .EXE files in windows
[19:37] <jim_p> sixofour, its a file, not a command. cat /etc/fstab to see its contents
[19:37] <oshua86> Veinor, maybe I am not familiar enough but I dont know if you have used webex before, Im looking for something that allows me to pass control back and forth and at the same time look waht the other person is doing and for him to see waht im doing
[19:37] <QQQ> Guest34183 there are many ways
[19:37] <CrIP> hey i just installed eggdrop, umm where did it install 2 ?
[19:37] <Xerran> sebsebseb, u there?
[19:37] <sixofour> Guest34183:  you can use source files guest
[19:37] <Xerran> pidgin crashed on me
[19:37] <Veinor> oshua86: ahhhh, i dunno then
[19:37] <jim_p> CrIP, how did you install it
[19:37] <jim_p> ?
[19:37] <QQQ> Guest34183 you can finde a *.deb that will install like a setupexe or something
[19:38] <sebsebseb> Xerran: yeah
[19:38] <sixofour> oh i need to edit the file?
[19:38] <jim_p> !debian
[19:38] <Xerran> please pM me
[19:38] <QQQ> Guest34183 and you can build from the sourcecode of programms
[19:38] <sebsebseb> Xerran: you pm me
[19:38] <Xerran> i crashed last time
[19:38] <oshua86> Veinor, well thanks, Ill keep looking
[19:38] <Xerran> please PM me
[19:38] <KoenigseggCC> Any links to good xrandr tutorials? Or for editing xorg.conf?
[19:39] <QQQ> Guest34183 great guide to install anything: http://amitech.50webs.com/installing/index.php.html
[19:39] <Guest34183> .. lots of ways.. I guess I'll have look at all those, once I become more familar to Linux, and it's workings.. so Far.. i'm very happy with it.. though it's only been a day..
[19:39] <sixofour> !xorg.conf
[19:39] <sixofour> Guest34183:  change your name
[19:39] <sixofour> type /nick name
[19:40] <Bram_P> Does anyone know the command that I get out of root again?
[19:40] <bruce89> Bram_P: exit
[19:40] <MasterZ> My setup will be 3x 1TB hard drives setup on a software RAID 5.... should I make 1 partition for the full disk space to keep it simple, or should I use several smaller partitions to see if it might be faster?
[19:40] <QQQ> Guest34183: if you want eyecandy enable the advanced desktop effekts :) (to customize them install compiz settings manager)
[19:40] <sixofour> lol he jsut got linux and you tell him to get compiz?
[19:40] <Bram_P> bruce89: thank you!
[19:40] <bruce89> name1: not the best thing to change your nick to
[19:40] <QQQ> sixofour kicks ass if it works :)
[19:41] <KoenigseggCC> sixofour: Thanks. But it's kind of brief.. I need to understand the device thing in those commandlines. Like in "xrandr --addmode device name" iirc
[19:41] <sixofour> oh
[19:41] <sixofour> well i don't know then KoenigseggCC
[19:41] <sixofour> i'm not the best at that stuff
[19:41] <KoenigseggCC> ok. Thanks for trying though.
[19:42] <sixofour> !xrandr
[19:42] <Picassotamus> KoenigseggCC: e.g. xrandr --addmode VGA 800x600, if you needed to add that res to your VGA device
[19:42] <Flare183> !language | QQQ
[19:42] <bruce89> that's a bit harsh
[19:43] <name1> you wouldn't happen to know how to use MonoDevelop would you?
[19:43] <sixofour> !MonoDevelop
[19:43] <sixofour> !Mono
[19:43] <wng-> Anyone have any tips on upgrading the kernel on a persistant LiveUSB drive, need to change CONFIG_NR_CPUS to more than 8
[19:43] <bruce89> !monodevelp
[19:43] <bruce89> !monodevelop
[19:43] <Flare183> !askthebot | bruce89 (sorry just doing my job)
[19:43] <QQQ> name1 i dont, no
[19:43] <KoenigseggCC> Picassotamus, Thanks. But that's my problem, I get "cannot find output VGA". So I'd like to read about that part somewhere..
[19:44] <bruce89> Flare183: indeed
[19:44] <name1> no worries.. I'll juat read the help then.. But, if this can do my c#.net programming as god as visual studios, I'm never going back to windows!
[19:44] <Flare183> name1: You should try CodeBlocks then
[19:44] <bruce89> name1: be aware that mono doesn't support the latest stuff
[19:44] <Picassotamus> KoenigseggCC: hmmm are u using vga? or dvi? maybe
[19:44] <name1> codeblocks?
[19:44] <lockd> I don't think this bug is fixed at all: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics/+bug/193575
[19:45] <adham> sorry guys , this is not a relevant question but i'm going to ask it anyway since this is the only operating system channel on this server
[19:45] <Flare183> !info codeblock | name1
[19:45] <Flare183> ...
[19:45] <adham> i want to partition my vista
[19:45] <bruce89> !askthebot | Flare183
[19:45] <adham> can some one advise me on how to do it
[19:45] <adham> i tried all tutorials i couldnt do it
[19:45] <defunct> is there anyway with a bash script to determine if gcc is built with 32 or 64?
[19:45] <tehboriz> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6869437#post6869437 some help please?
[19:45] <sixofour> adham:  ##windows
[19:45] <Flare183> !codeblocks > name1
[19:45] <lockd> this is certainly an -upstream- bug, but I'm not sure what I need to do to get this looked at by the kernel devs. The i8042 drivers, psmouse, atkbd drivers are downright ancient
[19:45] <Flare183> ...dang it
[19:45] <defunct> the compilation type I mean
[19:46] <adham> thanks
[19:46]  * Flare183 says forget it
[19:46] <KoenigseggCC> Picassotamus, I know it's not dvi, and lowercase vga didn't work either =|. It should be the same as some indentifier line in xorg.conf, right? My problem is that I don't know which one of them
[19:47] <_Whipper__> dmn thi svista could NOT suck more..
[19:47] <_Whipper__> or i mean that.. >
[19:48] <bruce89> !ohmy
[19:48] <sixofour> oh my god
[19:48] <rconan> what's the best way to configure a network bridge in ubuntu?
[19:48] <sixofour> the unrar command doesn't keep file paths?
[19:49] <Veinor> sixofour: what? yes it does
[19:50] <sixofour> i did unrar e and it dumped every file individually
[19:50] <Veinor> you want unrar x
[19:50] <jim_p> how can i do the automount thing in a server installation? i want for instance to put my disk in the drive, wait a small amount of time, and it will auto mount it in /media/cdrom
[19:50] <Picassotamus> KoenigseggCC: when i typed xrandr, i got screen 0, so maybe you could try it w/ that?
[19:50] <sixofour> ...
[19:50] <Picassotamus> KoenigseggCC: screen 0 as your device
[19:50] <sixofour> do you know how long it takes to unpack 36Gb from a 9Gb archive?
[19:50] <sixofour> ..too long
[19:50] <_Whipper__> sixofour, : not  so long..
[19:51] <tehboriz> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6869437#post6869437 some help please?
[19:51] <Picassotamus> KoenigseggCC: or pastebin the results of xrandr and/or xorg.conf and i will look at them
[19:51] <sixofour> great, how do i delete everything  without deleteing the .rar and the folderS?
[19:51] <sixofour> its about 12857 files
[19:51] <KoenigseggCC> Picassotamus, just a sec
[19:52] <bruce89> never use rar
[19:52] <_Whipper__> sixofour, : exlude'em
[19:52] <sixofour> how do you do that?
[19:52] <rconan> what's the best way to configure a network bridge in ubuntu?
[19:52] <_Whipper__> sixofour, : i have no idea :)
[19:52] <sixofour> opening the drive in dolphin freezes it :/
[19:53] <sixofour> its 28946 files actually
[19:53] <jim_p> how can i do the automount thing in a server installation? i want for instance to put my disk in the drive, wait a small amount of time, and it will auto mount it in /media/cdrom
[19:53] <sixofour> and that is only like 12% of the archive
[19:53]  * bruce89 wonders why you have such a large archive in a non-free format
[19:53] <KoenigseggCC> Picassotamus, http://paste.ubuntu.com/129908/  xrandr output at the top
[19:53] <sixofour> because i care about compression not the license
[19:54] <sixofour> i can still use winrar after 30 days, that counts as free in my book ^^
[19:54] <AnDyPaTcHeS> Under what condition would I be able to ping websites but the network manager would show a dead connection?
[19:54] <bruce89> sixofour: well, you can't complain when FOSS can't uncompress it
[19:54] <sixofour> who said it can't be uncompressed?
[19:54] <rconan> sixofour: I would have thought one of gz, bz2 and lzma would do similar compression
[19:54] <sixofour> and what is foss?
[19:54] <Veinor> sixofour: what directory did you uncompress it into?
[19:54] <bruce89> !foss
[19:54] <Pici> sixofour:
[19:54] <Pici> sixofour: er, Free Open Source Software
[19:55] <eanda> hello all.  Can anyone confirm a bug in Ubuntu 8.10 for mounting nfs share automaticaly on boot amd what the actual work around might be
[19:55] <sixofour> Vienor to my 42 gb drive
[19:55] <_Whipper__> "mostly" , that says a lot
[19:55] <Picassotamus> KoenigseggCC: what res are you trying to get?
[19:55] <bruce89> sixofour: lzmaed tars should yield the same compression ratio
[19:55] <Veinor> sixofour: so you want to delete all of the files that just got unrared?
[19:55] <marco> hello
[19:55] <sixofour> yeah i got it,
[19:55] <sixofour> going to select them all in dolphin
[19:56] <marco> can anyone tell me how to unmount a ftp folder which had mounted via curlftpfs ?
[19:56] <MasterZ> yay, the first hard drive finished :D
[19:57] <shanix> hi all, can you map two keyboard shortcuts to do the same thing?
[19:57] <shanix> ie crtl+alt+right and crtl+<right alt>+right to switch the workspace to the right
[19:57] <bruce89> no
[19:57] <KoenigseggCC> Picassotamus, well, like something higher =].. 1024x768 max now, and I have to squeeze the windows in there.. I managed to get 1400 something before by handtweaking xorg.conf, but then I had to reinstall. Now I thought I'd do it the "proper" way..
[19:58] <KoenigseggCC> Picassotamus, 1680x1050 or 1400x900 or whatever it is, perhaps?
[19:58] <_Whipper__> <right alt>?
[19:58] <sixofour> so unrar ex ?
[19:58] <sixofour> or unrar e x
[19:58] <_Whipper__> alt gr?
[19:58] <ala> hai
[19:58] <ala> :)
[19:58] <sixofour> sudo unrar e x Outgoing.rar
[19:59] <Chousuke> sudo = wrong
[19:59] <sixofour> without sudo it won't work
[19:59] <sixofour> access will be denied
[19:59] <Chousuke> then you're extracting it in the wrong place.
[19:59] <sixofour> no i'm not
[19:59] <sixofour> i'm extracting to my data drive
[20:00] <sixofour> OS drive is too small
[20:00] <Chousuke> then your data drive permissions are wrong.
[20:00] <Chousuke> fix.
[20:00] <Chousuke> :)
[20:00] <sixofour> no, its right
[20:00] <sixofour> i WANT sudo on it
[20:00] <Chousuke> why?
[20:00] <sixofour> so no one can modfy anything unless they have the password
[20:00] <Chousuke> well no-one can unless they're using your user.
[20:01] <sixofour> currently modifying any drive requires sudo
[20:01] <_Whipper__> sixofour, : win does there a good job.. u cant even alter all the stuff u want even if u .... used a sldgehammer
[20:01] <Chousuke> sixofour: that's wrong :/
[20:01] <sixofour> what _Whipper__?
[20:01] <Chousuke> sixofour: you should not need sudo for anything other than administration
[20:02] <teupon747> Salut j'ai un pb de son sur ma machine... ça me ruine le moral depuis 4 jours :-D
[20:02] <Pici> !fr | teupon747
[20:02] <Chousuke> sixofour: if you do, your permissions are misconfigured :)
[20:02] <sixofour> why?
[20:02] <teupon747> join #ubuntu-fr
[20:02] <lockd> can anyone confirm that this is still borked in Intrepid and Jaunty:
[20:02] <lockd> Unfortunately in windows vista this problem is better handled by the driver (the touchpad stops wirking for some seconds, but then it works without problems)
[20:02] <lockd> err, oops
[20:02] <Picassotamus> KoenigseggCC: Ive never tried this method before either, but seems like it keeps popping up... i tried using "default" as the device and that worked
[20:02] <sixofour> ive seen no evidence to prove this myth about using sudo all the time beign bad
[20:02] <lockd> this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics/+bug/193575
[20:02] <Chousuke> sixofour: root is not something you use daily.
[20:02] <sixofour> yes ive heard it a million times
[20:02] <Chousuke> sixofour: it's a matter of having the proper habits.
[20:03] <Chousuke> sixofour: if you rely on root all the time, you will one day use it when you should not.
[20:03] <_Whipper__> sixofour, : just cursing here, 'cos win won't allow me to change the things i want..
[20:03] <Chousuke> sixofour: and then things break
[20:03] <sixofour> ive already broken things :P
[20:03] <sixofour> had to reinstall kubuntu today
[20:04] <sixofour> extracted the archive to my OS drive, that drive got completely full
[20:04] <sixofour> and kubuntu stopped functioning
[20:05] <sixofour> is there a way to make it so you need sudo to view the contents of a folder?
[20:06] <KoenigseggCC> Picassotamus, well do I feel stupid now.. Default worked here as well. Now it's saying mode 1680x1050 can't be found, but at least one fall forwards.. I'll look into that when I get back. Thanks for helping.
[20:06] <LSD200> sixofour: yes there is - change the owner of the folder to root and then set the folder permisions to be only readable by root
[20:06] <_Whipper__> sixofour, :yes
[20:06] <sixofour> what would that command be?
[20:07] <_Whipper__> six: and make your comp-u-ting  "abit" hmm.. hurtful or something..
[20:08] <_Whipper__> sixofour, : meant, that it'll be a pain in the a*s if u do so..
[20:08] <Picassotamus> KoenigseggCC: np, and don't feel bad :)
[20:09] <_bulmor_> salut
[20:09] <berat> &jo'n ubuntu
[20:09] <berat> sorry
[20:09] <Spook> my root has same pw as user, how can i change differend pw for root?
[20:09] <berat> hey
[20:10] <berat> i have a problem with my eternet
[20:10] <berat> i can connect internet with my wireless or my eternet
[20:10] <strange> Spook: type 'passwd' as root
[20:10] <berat> but my system knows both of them
[20:11] <Pici> !root | Spook
[20:11] <berat> i am using ubuntu 8.10
[20:11] <sixofour> ok dolphin froze, is there a konsole way of deleting these files?
[20:11] <Spook> ok then i can do another pw for root, i shall try
[20:11] <helloooo2222> can anyone help me with Configuring MythTV with my pinnacle HDTV tuner (801)e?
[20:11] <Pici> Spook: You don't need to. The root password is locked by default.  Use sudo for root access.
[20:12] <berat> hey
[20:12] <berat> help me pls
[20:12] <berat> i cannot connect net with my wireless or eternet but system knows both of them.How can i fixx it
[20:12] <lockd> how can I report that a but ISN'T fixed?
[20:12] <Spook> yep pici, first i must do sudo -i, then passwd
[20:12] <Picassotamus> !helpme | berat
[20:13] <Acedip> does ssh work over wan or it works just over lan ?
[20:13] <Pici> Spook: You shouldn't ever need to log in as root.
[20:13] <_Whipper__> berat: auto-dhcp?
[20:13] <sixofour> !konsole
[20:13] <berat> yes
[20:13] <berat> i guess auto-dhcp
[20:14] <berat> the file si /etc/network/interface
[20:14] <berat> isnt it
[20:14] <Pici> !enter | berat
[20:14] <_Whipper__> beraT all the wiring in order?
[20:14] <berat> sorry
[20:14] <berat> i dont know _Whipper__
[20:15] <berat> how can i check and where is the interface file
[20:15] <_Whipper__> berat: then i cant help u..
[20:15] <juken> for some reason when I plug my AC adapter into my laptop the application Evolution starts... anyone seen that before?
[20:15] <berat> _Whipper__,  where is the interface file ?
[20:15] <Spook> yesss thanks verry much, now i have a differend pw for my root :-)
[20:16] <_Whipper__> berat: u mean net-config?
[20:16] <hporse> hey guys. i've programmed some own, small Xlib programs. on gentoo they run perfectly. i i try to compile (which works) and run them on ubuntu i get a segmentation fault every time i start an xlib call. any guesses why the programs won'T run on ubuntu?
[20:16] <Iowahc> berat /etc/network/interfaces
[20:17] <hporse> the compilation worked without warnings and errors - just perfectly. but if i try to run an xlib program i get ALWAYS a segfault...
[20:17] <berat> there is no /etc/network/interfaces
[20:17] <TimothyP> Hi, creating a live cd with remastersys worked a few times, not it does not log in automatically so it does not work. Everybody reports this error , but I can't find a solution
[20:17] <hporse> i have absolutely no idea why my ubuntu system refuses to run my xlib programs.
[20:17] <hporse> does ubuntu have anything special about X11?
[20:17] <hporse> something related of course.
[20:17] <rrofl> hello can anyone help with my problem installing updates on a new 8.10 desktop install
[20:18] <rrofl> every package is reporting "missing newline"
[20:18] <jtran> I used to use CentOS, and it allowed me to open a terminal from the right-click menu from my desktop, how do I do that in Ubuntu?
[20:18] <hporse> :)
[20:18] <hporse> :(
[20:18] <hporse> wrong smiley ^^
[20:19] <Picassotamus> jtran: open a terminal, or add that functionality?
[20:19] <hporse> i am working on this problem for hours now and no solution available...
[20:19] <zaergen91> while trying to install xubuntu on an old pentium III dell laptop it just freezes in a light blue screen with the pointer on it...
[20:19] <erUSUL> jtran: you need to install nautilus-open-terminal iirc
[20:19] <rrofl> jsut downloaded 268 update files, and all the ones I try are reporting error "missing newline"
[20:20] <jaivikram>  /join #extdev
[20:20] <Spook> ok, i go further whit reading my new book, Linux for dummies, lol
[20:20] <erUSUL> !info  nautilus-open-terminal | jtran
[20:20] <hporse> hmm seems like this channel isn't suitable for deeper problems. too much users in here.
[20:20] <hporse> :/
[20:20] <rrofl> so noone knows or noone cares?
[20:21] <erUSUL> !patience
[20:21] <macman> i asked this already guys just want a answer or something .. is there a way to mount a osx partition and be able to view the contents of the drive ? mount -t hfsplus works but i can't view anything
[20:21] <_Whipper__> rrofl, : what was the q?
[20:21] <jtran> erUSUL, I'd like it to be in the context menu from my Gnome desktop, not just Nautilus
[20:21] <rrofl> Whipper: every update package I try and install fails, error "missing newline"
[20:21] <erUSUL> jtran: the context manu on the gnome desktop is the context menu of nautilus
[20:22] <jtran> erUSUL, ok I've installed the nautilus-open-terminal package, how do I enable it?
[20:22] <DStrevinas> hello, how can i delete all the files that have an extension with the "~" character in a directory tree?
[20:23] <_Whipper__> rrofl, : check your repos, and all the other stuff, and if the prblm exist even after that.. ask again
[20:23] <weed> hi
[20:23] <rrofl> Whipper: pls explain "repos" ?
[20:23] <weed> pleas help me with deinstal drivers and instal new
[20:23] <_Whipper__> !repository
[20:23] <usr13> Is there a linux app that will convert jpg to pdf?
[20:23] <docmonkey> yywUGIFIUWGEFuywoityyyyyyyygggggggg
[20:23] <docmonkey> hi
[20:23] <hateball> DStrevinas: use rm with "--" to end switch inputs
[20:24] <Spook> ok i have to go, thanks for the help, everybody a nice evening/day, bye bye :-)
[20:24] <docmonkey> huh?
[20:24] <rrofl> Whipper: if I now say "how do I check repository" are you gonna be mad with me?
[20:24] <erUSUL> jtran: maybe you need to log out and log in again
[20:24] <_Whipper__> usr13: gimp?
[20:24] <jtran> erUSUL, will do, thanks for your help
[20:24] <usr13> _Whipper__: Nope, but just found jpg2pdf
[20:24] <usr13> Tnx anyway
[20:24] <genii> docmonkey: This channel is for questions about Ubuntu Linux. Do you have some question?
[20:26] <rrofl> Whipper: Ok I found out how to check my repos, will try it out
[20:26] <sexcopter> does anyone know a tool to take a pdf and spit out images (png, or anything really)?
[20:26] <_Whipper__> now my turn.. How can i turn .ps to pdf, or with wath?
[20:26] <erUSUL> _Whipper__: ps2pdf
[20:26] <hateball> sexcopter: inkscape, if you dont need to batch it
[20:27] <_Whipper__> thanx
[20:27] <sexcopter> hateball: yeah, just one pdf. i'll look at that, thanks!
[20:27] <Dacvak> Where can I get a DVD codec for VLC in Ubuntu?
[20:27] <erUSUL> !dvd
[20:29] <sav1o> hi, libfusionsound package (from directfb project) does not include snddriver modules (alsa,oss,etc). how can I retrieve these modules?
[20:29] <sav1o> I'd rather not compile FusionSound-1.0.0 because it has some compilation issues that will take me some time
[20:32] <sav1o> please guys :) I really need support on that; I could help re-configuring the package if the manteiner like but I need directions. thanks in advance.
[20:32] <erbish> hi
[20:32] <sav1o> bruenig: don't irc as root :)
[20:32] <tehfalcon> hi
[20:33] <sam555> is there a way to configure LAMP so that I can choose where the database directory is located on ubuntu 8.04?
[20:33] <tehfalcon> does anyone know how I can put a program run at start-up?
[20:33] <bruenig> sav1o: mind your own
[20:33] <hateball> tehfalcon: machine boot, or your session?
[20:33] <tehfalcon> my session
[20:33] <rrofl> nope, can someone help with these updates please? all packages report they are missing final newline when trying to update
[20:33] <danbhfive> sam555: I think there is an option in the mysql config somewhere
[20:34] <hateball> tehfalcon: System - Settings - Sessions
[20:34] <_Whipper__> bruenig, : no need to be rood
[20:34] <hateball> tehfalcon: think that's the proper translation...
[20:34] <tehfalcon> ok
[20:34] <tehfalcon> thanks
[20:34] <tehfalcon> I can find sessions
[20:34] <tehfalcon> don't worry
[20:34] <sam555> danbhfive: I changed the datadir option, but then that broke mysql
[20:34] <sav1o> bruenig: sorry dude :) I didn't mean to offend, really.
[20:34] <erUSUL> DStrevinas: find . -name '*~' -exec rm '{}' \;
[20:34] <danbhfive> rrofl: can you pastebin your errors?
[20:35] <rrofl> danbhfive: kk sec
[20:35] <DStrevinas> erUSUL: thanx, that's cool
[20:35] <danbhfive> sam555: did you copy the files over to the new location after you made the change?
[20:35] <Dacvak> I just installed the Ubuntu-Restricted-Extras, but I still can't play DVDs in either Totem or VLC. Any ideas?
[20:35] <danbhfive> !medibuntu > Dacvak
[20:35] <sam555> danbhfive: which files?
[20:35] <erUSUL> DStrevinas: find . -name '*~' -delete <<<< shorter
[20:35] <hateball> tehfalcon: well it's there... somewhere. Not on english Ubuntu so dunno the right word for it
[20:36] <sam555> danbhfive: i haven't created the db yet
[20:36] <danbhfive> sam555: the database files.  All the files in the original location
[20:36] <erUSUL> Dacvak: you libcss from medibuntu
[20:36] <dayo> Dacvak: sudo aptitude install libdvdcss2
[20:36] <erUSUL> !medibuntu
[20:36] <rrofl> danbhfive: E:/var/cache/apt/archives/dash_0.5.4-9ubuntu1.1.i386.deb:files list file for package 'libnet-daemon-perl' is missing final newline
[20:36] <sam555> danbhfive: i was trying to make the directory and then create the db
[20:36] <hateball> tehfalcon: command is "gnome-session-properties" anyhow
[20:36] <tehfalcon> ok
[20:36] <tehfalcon> thanks
[20:36] <sam555> danbhfive: so I wanted to specify the location of the directory other than the default location
[20:37] <DStrevinas> erUSUL: great
[20:38] <soreau> Can someone please tell me what to expect from wubi?
[20:38] <erUSUL> !wubi
[20:38] <sebsebseb> soreau: yes
[20:38] <soreau> I should install entire disk with xp then using wubi it will be a dual boot system, right?
[20:38] <sebsebseb> soreau: Wubi puts Ubuntu inside your Windows NTFS partition in a secitno of it
[20:38] <soreau> that sucks
[20:39] <soreau> sebsebseb: But thank you :)
[20:39] <sebsebseb> soreau:  indeed so partition youar hard disk for real
[20:39] <soreau> No, it wont let me on this old crap machine
[20:39] <sebsebseb> soreau: oh yeah you again :D
[20:39] <soreau> creating ext3 fails
[20:39] <soreau> :(
[20:39] <sebsebseb> soreau: try Wubi
[20:39] <soreau> ok
[20:40] <sebsebseb> soreau: altough normalley better to partition
[20:40] <soreau> sebsebseb: But if I use the entire disk for windoze and then use wubi, it will be a dual boot system right?
[20:40] <DaDa|Urka> why does the cpu freq scaling not work with an intel atom N330
[20:40] <soreau> Like some weird linux on ntyfs?
[20:40] <soreau> ntfs*
[20:40] <sebsebseb> soreau: it will give you the Windows boot loader which boots Windows or  Grub the Linux boot loader
[20:40] <tehfalcon> sebsebseb: what distro do you recommend for an old computer (P2 processor, 64 ram...)
[20:40] <soreau> sebsebseb: That's crazy. Ok
[20:40] <m1r> anyone using rt73 wlan cards ?
[20:40] <sebsebseb> tehfalcon: Damn Small Linux or PuppyLinux
[20:41] <tehfalcon> sebsebseb:  I find those to too simplistic
[20:41] <tehfalcon> anything better?
[20:41] <tehfalcon> two*
[20:41] <onceuponastack> I asked this question a few months ago. Just found this link. http://www.tuxradar.com/content/group-test-web-editors <--web editors for *nix
[20:42] <Tesla> I love Ubuntu, is there any way to mate with it and produce offspring?
[20:42] <rrofl> anyone? E: /var/cache/apt/archives/dash_0.5.4-9ubuntu1.1.i386.deb:files list file for package 'libnet-daemon-perl' is missing final newline
[20:42] <tehfalcon> Tesla: mod your PC into a blow up doll
[20:42] <sebsebseb> tehfalcon: nope nothing better it seems for 64mb RAM
[20:42] <tehfalcon> ok
[20:43] <m1r> thefalcon: u can always use ubuntu server and CLI for common tasks
[20:43] <objorn> in the manual partitioner during install, how do you specify the swap, root, and home partitions?
[20:43] <genii> rrofl: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2007-January/104520.html
[20:43] <cylux> Hey guys I used ndiswrapper to configure my wireless device, the driver loaded properly and everything but it's not showing up in the network settings menu. Anyone know why?
[20:43] <sebsebseb> objorn: by  selecting the partition and then edit partition.  and telling it what to use them as
[20:44] <sebsebseb> objorn: I set stuff up nicely with gparted first, and then use manual to finnish it off
[20:44] <KalEl> hi, for me the network icon says "Device is unmanaged" and shows a tiny triangle warning icon
[20:44] <bartek_> welcome, i have problems with my mom's xubuntu
[20:44] <bartek_> in pidgin she can not write "a"
[20:44] <bartek_>  it looks like there is some definition of keyboard shortcut
[20:44] <bartek_>  i do not know how to find it
[20:44] <FloodBot2> bartek_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:44] <rrofl> genii: THANK YOU I honestly didnt know where to start, google found unrelated errors, so thx for that =D
[20:45] <danbhfive> sam555: did you change your apparmor settings?
[20:45] <Tesla> But, tehfalcon, I'm female.
[20:45] <tehfalcon> bartek_: can she write f?
[20:45] <sam555> danbhfive: ok, no, that's probably it
[20:45] <sebsebseb> Tesla: cool one of the 2% or so female Ubuntu users, then
[20:45] <sam555> i wasn't sure if ubuntu had that
[20:46] <virtx> hello
[20:46] <tehfalcon> sebsebseb: you know what they say on the internet....
[20:46] <danbhfive> sam555: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-change-the-mysql-data-default-directory.html     this is the page I found
[20:46] <Tesla> Oh we're all over the place.
[20:46] <bartek_> tehlafalcon: yes
[20:46] <sebsebseb> tehfalcon: yeah I know :d
[20:46] <tehfalcon> sebsebseb: boys are boys, girls are boys and little girls are fbi agents
[20:46] <virtx> someone has solved the problem with ksoftirqd and madwifi drivers?
[20:46] <Tesla> I do know what they say on the Internet.
[20:46] <virtx> it takes the whole cpu
[20:46] <sebsebseb> tehfalcon: yeah there is that one, or the one that there is no females on the Intenret
[20:46] <Tesla> But when I look down, I see a vagoo.
[20:46] <sam555> danbhfive: omg, you rock!!!!!
[20:46] <Tesla> Not a p3n0r.
[20:46] <hateball> !ot
[20:46] <tehfalcon> damn with 4chan
[20:46] <sebsebseb> Tesla: a what??????  lol
[20:47] <axisys> is there a tool to find duplicate files in a disk?
[20:47] <demon_> where is "monitor and display configuration" on 8.10
[20:47] <cylux> Hey guys I used ndiswrapper to configure my wireless device, the driver loaded properly and everything but it's not showing up in the network settings menu. Anyone have any ideas why?
[20:47] <sebsebseb> Tesla: you want help with something?
[20:47] <cylux> axisys: Yes, it's called cp
[20:47] <okidoki> anyone sucessfully use FOG to image a ubuntu server?
[20:47] <sixofour> when i send files to trash are they gone or do i need to empty the trash somehow?
[20:47] <tehfalcon> how can you use a copy command to find dupes?
[20:48] <genii> rrofl: Yer welcome
[20:48] <Tesla> My original non-serious question was how to mate with Ubuntu and generate offspring, but then tehfalcon suggested modding my PC case into a blow-up doll.  I had to point out, that for my gender, this is not a viable solution.
[20:48] <axisys> cylux: huh?
[20:48] <demon_> !monitor
[20:48] <LjL> tehfalcon: a copy command...? wouldn't you use a, err, duplicate finder program?
[20:48] <Ienorand> sixofour: If you can see them in trash they are still there.
[20:48] <sebsebseb> Tesla: ha ha yeah, but do you actsaully want help with something serious?
[20:48] <sixofour> how do i empty trash?
[20:48] <sebsebseb> seriously
[20:48] <hateball> !trash | sixofour
[20:48] <sam555> danbhfive: this was it!!! i could kiss you!!!!
[20:48] <axisys> cylux: i want to find duplicate files in all diff dirs and delete all but one
[20:49] <okidoki> if not, anyone know a good way to image a ubuntu server in partimage format?
[20:49] <sixofour> i know where its at, how do i empty it?
[20:49] <tehfalcon> cylux pointed out that you have to use dupes with cp
[20:49] <danbhfive> sam555: :)  glad it worked out
[20:49] <Ienorand> sixofour: should be just to open trash and click the "empty" button...
[20:49] <Tesla> No, but I'm willing to provide help if I notice something I'm familiar with that nobody already got.
[20:49] <hateball> axisys: you can throw a few switches on find
[20:49] <sebsebseb> Tesla: without looking at  your hostname,   I  am taking a guess where your probably from.  America?
[20:49] <demon_> where is "monitor and display configuration" on 8.10
[20:49] <Tesla> Am I that annoying, loud, and obnoxious that you can tell that already? =/
[20:50] <cylux> Tesla: Yes
[20:50] <sebsebseb> Tesla: we are off topic hummmmmm,  but  it seems more computer women are in America then anywhere else
[20:51] <Tesla> Is there any way to filter these join/parts out of just this channel so I can follow actual text easier and actually contribute?
[20:51] <The-Compiler> Tesla: not in xchat I think
[20:51] <LjL> Tesla: often yes, but it depends on the client
[20:51] <The-Compiler> Tesla: go ask in #xchat ;)
[20:51] <eseven73> is the PPA site down for anyone else? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas
[20:52] <cylux> Hey guys my wireless adapter is not showing up in the Gnome Network settings but ndiswrapper -l reports that the driver is properly installed. What's the problem, then?
[20:52] <DIFH-iceroot> eseven73: no
[20:52] <Tesla> Hmm...
[20:52] <The-Compiler> eseven73: fine here
[20:52] <danbhfive> cylux: is interfaces clear? save for lo?
[20:52] <Tesla> What kind of adapter is it, xylux?
[20:52] <Tesla> *cylux
[20:52] <sixofour> ugh
[20:52] <sixofour> so were are on day 2 of delteing files
[20:53] <sixofour> konquerer and dolphin bo0th freeze in the process
[20:53] <LjL> Tesla: seems to be /set irc_conf_mode 1
[20:53] <sixofour> and konsole isn't capable enough
[20:53] <sixofour> :S
[20:53] <virtx> fuck ubuntukernel, i use vanilla!
[20:53] <FoolsRun> Hi, I'm having a weird CUPS issue: my printer URLs in the web interface are 127.0.0.1:631/printers/...   rather than the url I'm accessing the CUPS server at, which is by name: media-server.local
[20:53] <sofi1> Hi All
[20:54] <ActionParsnip> !ohmy | virtx
[20:54] <sofi1> Is it a known bug that compiz-fusion will not work with xrandr?
[20:54] <cylux> Tesla: Broadcom
[20:54] <The-Compiler> LANG and LC_* aren't set on my system by default (ubuntu-mini server) and I got error messages all the time, I added "(LANGUAGE=|LANG=|LC_ALL=)de_DE.UTF-8" to my .zshrc now, that worked so far but I guess that really isn't the best way to do it
[20:54] <Tesla> Broadcom what?
[20:54] <virtx> ActionParsnip, is ksoftirqd problem solved?
[20:54] <cylux> My two LAN ports are showing up
[20:54] <Tesla> What's your lspci/lsusb output?
[20:54] <jordi_> Hi all
[20:54] <sebsebseb> jordi_: hi
[20:54] <ActionParsnip> virtx: not even sure what that is
[20:55] <cylux> Tesla: Broadcom BCM4318
[20:55] <ActionParsnip> sofi1: i'd ask in #compiz
[20:55] <sixofour> Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-sixofour" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
[20:55] <sixofour> kio_trash(9962) KMimeTypeFactory::parseMagic: Now parsing  "/usr/share/mime/magic"
[20:55] <sixofour> :(
[20:55] <Whitor> Hi, Has anyone here used ubuntu to connect to a cisco on its console port? I cant seem to get it to connect using minicom
[20:55] <sixofour> thats what happens when i try to delete the files in konqueror
[20:55] <virtx> ActionParsnip, if pc is in idle ksoftirqd takes all cpu usage and pc is not usable
[20:55] <arka> I worked around a nasty bug by using module parameters. where can I set these?
[20:55] <sofi1> Is it a known issue  that xrandr will not work with compiz-fusion?
[20:55] <ActionParsnip> virtx: crazy stuff
[20:56] <virtx> ActionParsnip, for making pc reusable just reboot the network
[20:56] <virtx> i think there is a wifi driver problem
[20:56] <arka> I mean, I can modprobe psmouse resetafter=0, but I want that to happen every boot
[20:56] <ActionParsnip> virtx: i dont think ive experienced it but i'll bear it in mind. thanks
[20:56] <ActionParsnip> :)
[20:57] <virtx> anyway there is a solution?
[20:57] <Kuukkeli^> Hello, i got a problem with my ATI drivers, can i find newest ATI driver from anywhere what isn't proprietary?
[20:57] <virtx> :\
[20:57] <ActionParsnip> virtx: log a but and monitor it
[20:57] <virtx> dmesg says to me nothing
[20:57] <virtx> and ksoftirqd is a kernel thread
[20:58] <cylux> Tesla: ?
[20:58] <jordi_> Guys, anyone have experience configuring touchscreens ?
[20:58] <ActionParsnip> !touchscreen
[20:58] <rww> Kuukkeli^: Install instructions for non-proprietary ATI drivers: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[20:58] <jordi_> no probs
[20:59] <ActionParsnip> jordi_: http://origamiproject.com/forums/thread/23006.aspx
[20:59] <atmosfer> hello i got winfast 2000 tv tunner on my desktop pc. and running ubuntu 8.10 wherecan i find drivers for my tv tuner?
[20:59] <Slart> it seems pidgin doesn't want to connect to icq for me.. I get some kind of error message about "client too old".. am I the only one?
[20:59] <Kuukkeli^> rww, thank you. =)
[20:59] <jordi_> Thx action
[20:59] <tobor> atmosfer: what does the name "winfast" suggest ?
[21:00] <sebsebseb> Slart: no there was someone else just now, you need an update
[21:00] <demon_> where can i set my monitor?
[21:00] <atmosfer> tobor just for windows?
[21:00] <demon_> !display
[21:00] <tobor> atmosfer: Well, designed for windows. try the manufacturer's website.
[21:00] <sebsebseb> Slart: to be exact I started talking to thtat guy outside the channel, but yes you need some sort of update
[21:00] <Slart> sebsebseb: well.. I guess it will get fixed in due time then..
[21:00] <Slart> sebsebseb: thanks
[21:00] <Keld> atmosfer, there is a guide here for the winfast 2000 XP under linux: http://www.linuxhelp.net/guides/tvtuner/
[21:01] <Kuukkeli^> rww: Isn't fglrx drivers proprietary?
[21:01] <lo127> Does the alternate CD support full system encryption or only a privat folder ?
[21:01] <ManaPirat> Hi There
[21:02] <sebsebseb> it can do both full encryption or just a folder
[21:02] <arka> how can I set module parameters for bootup?
[21:02] <sebsebseb> ManaPirat: hi
[21:02] <rww> Kuukkeli^: Yes, they are. The link I gave you has information on removing fglrx and installing a non-proprietary driver.
[21:02] <kindofabuzz> !jaunty > kindofabuzz
[21:02] <jordi_> Yeah my model is a p1610 and I'm running the latest ubuntu
[21:02] <arka> now, I know I could do psmouse.resetafter=0 on the kernel command line if it was builtin, but psmouse is a module
[21:02] <ManaPirat> my main administrator user cannot log in (screen size issue) - how can I let my second user get adinsitrator rights?
[21:03] <ManaPirat> I tried sudo usermod -aG admin <myuser>
[21:03] <ManaPirat> in a recovery terminal
[21:04] <ManaPirat> anybody?
[21:04] <cannonball> Hi, installed an app (virtualbox, deb from virtualbox.org).  it hung on me (tries to reconfigure networking, which locks up my machine since my home directory is nfs mounted).  Now I can't get into synaptic because it says I need to run dpkg--configure -a.  But if I run it, it does the thing which reconfigures networking, yada yada.  Googling, I expected dpkg --clear-avail to clear that out, but it had no effect.  Any suggestions?  URLs welcome.
[21:04] <Unggnu> hi all
[21:04] <usr13> ManaPirat: Just a sec...\
[21:05] <Unggnu> Does anyone know how I can use the Ubuntu kernel staging drivers?
[21:05] <sebsebseb> Unggnu: yes hello
[21:05] <ManaPirat> allright thanks mr 13 ;)
[21:05] <nkat> please if i want to change my password how can i proceed ?
[21:06] <ActionParsnip> ManaPirat: replace <myuser> with $USER
[21:06] <Unggnu> sebsebseb: how? I want otus and according to hhttps://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/jaunty-changes/2009-January/003537.html it is already integrated
[21:06] <ActionParsnip> ManaPirat: ;)
[21:06] <sebsebseb> Unggnu: Jaunty stuff is here #ubuntu+1
[21:06] <ManaPirat> ;-P i typoed the actual username
[21:06] <Unggnu> sebsebseb: remove Jaunty and just tell me about staging :)
[21:06] <Keld> nkat: at the console enter: passwd
[21:06] <DaDa|Urka> why does the cpu freq scaling not work with an intel atom N330
[21:06] <Unggnu> sebsebseb: How I can access staging drivers :)
[21:06] <cannonball> got it, dpkg --clear-selections.  Later.
[21:06] <sebsebseb> Unggnu: nope can't help you
[21:06] <nkat> Keld: thank you verry much
[21:07] <Keld> np :)
[21:07] <nkat> Keld: :)
[21:07] <Unggnu> sebsebseb: this wouldn't be ubuntu+1 :)
[21:07] <Kuukkeli^> rww: well my driver is R600 or R700 and they wont be good enough for source-engine so woohoo!
[21:07] <SuiDog> hey all.. ok.. I got some weirdness.. I'm running 8.10 on an IBM server .. the software clock is running 1/2 speed and the hardware clock is fine.  This started happening yesterday after I updated my system with the latest recommended security updates
[21:07] <Kuukkeli^> i can only use 2d
[21:08] <guntbert> !attitude | Unggnu
[21:08] <rww> Kuukkeli^: Yeah, I have an R620. I know your pain >.>
[21:08] <Unggnu> guntbert: he told me he knew :)
[21:08] <Unggnu> guntbert: and I never got a real answer in ubuntu+1
[21:09] <SuiDog> hey all.. ok.. I got some weirdness.. I'm running 8.10 on an IBM server .. the software clock is running 1/2 speed and the hardware clock is fine. I can sync with NTP but within 1 min. the software clock is 30 secs behind.  This started happening yesterday after I updated my system with the latest recommended security updates
[21:09] <Kuukkeli^> rww, but i heard from #ati that there is coming an 3d opensource driver
[21:09] <Kuukkeli^> =)
[21:09] <demon_> my ubuntu cant recognize my monitor pls help!!
[21:09] <Kuukkeli^> in few months
[21:09] <sebsebseb> !monitor
[21:09] <sebsebseb> !screen
[21:10] <rww> Kuukkeli^: Yeah, they're working on acceleration for us in the -ati driver. It'll probably be released in time for Jaunty, too :)
[21:10] <Gaming4JC> ...
[21:10] <sebsebseb> demon_: I guess you need a better one then
[21:10] <guntbert> Unggnu: sorry, but I have no idea too :(
[21:10] <Unirgy> hi, how it is possible to temporarily switch from nvidia-glx-177 to nv ?
[21:10] <ActionParsnip> Unirgy: sure, just edit xorg.conf and change driver
[21:10] <Unirgy> i'm experiencing really bad GUI slowness, want to see if that's going to help
[21:10] <demon_> sebastien, it worked just fine but then i have put 8.10 and now i cant use mine i have other one its ok with that one but its lil bit red
[21:11] <usr13> ManaPirat: Still there?
[21:11] <Unggnu> guntbert: thx. Maybe staging is planned but not integrated, don't know
[21:11] <sixofour> !permissions
[21:11] <ManaPirat> yes i am there
[21:11] <ActionParsnip> Unirgy: once you edit the file, restart the x server
[21:11] <Scunizi> Unirgy: easy.. gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change the driver line from nvidia to nv .. save then restart x
[21:11] <lo127> Does the alternate CD support full system encryption or only a privat folder ?
[21:11] <usr13> Now what was the problem?
[21:11] <ActionParsnip> snap
[21:11] <ManaPirat> giving telephone support for the por user atm
[21:11] <demon_> sebastien, in 7.10 i can set my monitor i can choose it froma  list but i dont know how on 8.10
[21:11] <usr13> Couldn't get ght GUI up?
[21:11] <ManaPirat> trying visudo /etc/sudoers
[21:11] <sebsebseb> demon_: ok xorg issues
[21:11] <Gaming4JC> I have a newly installed PC (less than a week) dual booting Ubuntu 8.10 and WinXP SP3. Windows XP recently has "Windows Delay Write Failure" and now Ubuntu is running slowwwly. Would anyone know why?
[21:11] <sebsebseb> demon_: your probably better off using hardy
[21:12] <ManaPirat> yes tahst a driver problem that cannot be solved as its alld crap hardware. In the process some user config in a user shome got screwed up
[21:12] <guntbert> Unggnu: may I PM you?
[21:12] <usr13> ManaPirat: You have added a new user and want to give him same rights as the original one?  Is that it?
[21:12] <Unggnu> guntbert: sure
[21:12] <ManaPirat> decided to make a new clena user but its not an administrator account which is not intended
[21:12] <demon_> i know sebsebseb but i cant find that program for setting my monitor
[21:12] <ManaPirat> now I need to get adinistratziion and sudo prvileges to that new acocunt
[21:12] <ManaPirat> yes usr13 pretty much that ;)
[21:12] <sebsebseb> demon_: system > preferences > screen resoloution
[21:13] <ActionParsnip> !adduser
[21:13] <Unirgy> ActionParsnip, Scunizi: thanks
[21:13] <demon_> sebastien, its screen resolution i cant set my monitor just the resolution
[21:13] <usr13> ManaPirat: Edit file /etc/group and add a comma and your new user name to the end of each line that has the original user name.
[21:13] <Gaming4JC> *cough* anyone?
[21:13] <sebsebseb> demon_: ok have you installed the graphics card driver?
[21:13] <usr13> ManaPirat: And then log out and back in again and you'll have privilidges.
[21:13] <demon_> sebsebseb, yes and it works its just the monitor when i put the other monitor its good
[21:14] <Gaming4JC> Here's some Event logs from Windows and SMART Data: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d10fb808f
[21:14] <ActionParsnip> Gaming4JC: run fsck on the drive
[21:14] <ManaPirat> the user is in that file allready, her username is in the admin group line, seperated with a comma from the other users
[21:14] <sebsebseb> demon_: ok crappy old montior that isn't suppourted I guess
[21:14] <Gartral2> how do i set the xscreensaver manager as the default without affecting the rest of gnome?
[21:14] <SuiDog> hey all.. ok.. I got some weirdness.. I'm running 8.10 on an IBM server .. the software clock is running 1/2 speed and the hardware clock is fine. I can sync with NTP but within 1 min. the software clock is 30 secs behind.  This started happening yesterday after I updated my system with the latest recommended security updates
[21:14] <UbUnTu5uck5h4rD> LOL
[21:14] <ActionParsnip> Gaming4JC: you may want to get the app from the drives amnufacturers site (or use ultimate boot cd) to test the drive
[21:14] <ManaPirat> but still when logged in she cannot access most of the menue entries under system/Adinistration
[21:15] <ManaPirat> does the PC have to be restarted for the groups changes to work?
[21:15] <demon_> sebsebseb, if i set it like on 7.10 to be a a noname 17' monitor i can do it but i cant find that program
[21:15] <usr13> ManaPirat: No.
[21:15] <Gaming4JC> ActionParsnip: It's literally less than a week old. (WesternDigital 640GB) brand new
[21:15] <Gaming4JC> :o
[21:15] <usr13> But you'll have to do it in the original user's account.  Or do it in single user mode.
[21:16] <Gaming4JC> I suppose it's not the first time I've had a bumb hdd
[21:16] <sebsebseb> demon_: ok don't know
[21:16] <usr13> ManaPirat: But you'll have to do it in the original user's account.  Or do it in single user mode.
[21:16] <nym> hey, how do i go about executing commands remotely over ssh?
[21:16] <ManaPirat> the originals users desktop doe snot load properly, commandline is what we have
[21:16] <demon_> thanks any way sebsebseb  i should ask my question again ;)
[21:17] <demon_> how can i set my monitor ??
[21:17] <usr13> ManaPirat: Let's say the old user was fred and the new one is jim, you'll see several lines that end with fred, just put ,jim after them so that they look like  fred,jim
[21:18] <usr13> ManaPirat: But you shouldn't need to add a new user to fix the problem.
[21:18] <ActionParsnip> Gaming4JC: could have been dying before you even bought it
[21:18] <usr13> ManaPirat: Just do Ctrl-Alt-F6 and go to console mode and fix the X server.
[21:18] <ManaPirat> usr13 I kinda found the tnries that way you describe it
[21:19] <demon_> how can i set my monitor or is there a way some one can set my xorg ??
[21:19] <ActionParsnip> Gaming4JC: if youre getting issues in windows and linux it may be dying
[21:19] <ManaPirat> as I issued sudo userod -aG admin jim that might have done it
[21:19] <UbUnTu5uck5h4rD> ubuntu = distro's mexico
[21:19] <usr13> demon_: X -configure
[21:19] <ActionParsnip> Gaming4JC: check the controller connectionad power
[21:19] <ManaPirat> so I wonder why the priileges seem not active .. dong this via telephone is another factor that might lead to probles though -.-
[21:19] <Gartral2> Gaming4JC: i hate saying this, 'cause i like WD, but thier external drives SUCK
[21:19] <Gaming4JC> ActionParsnip: I'll run some tools on it... what am I looking for? All sectors are good so far. The system rebooted itself on Windows...
[21:19] <hadi57> hi, i am new to linux world, wiped off xp and replace it with ubuntu, now i cant connect to my htc touch, any body can help me solve this?
[21:20] <SuiDog> hey all.. ok.. I got some weirdness.. I'm running 8.10 on an IBM server .. the software clock is running 1/2 speed and the hardware clock is fine. I can sync with NTP but within 1 min. the software clock is 30 secs behind.  This started happening yesterday after I updated my system with the latest recommended security updates
[21:20] <demon_> usr13,  that didnt helped
[21:20] <Gaming4JC> Gartral2: It's an internal drive
[21:20] <usr13> demon_: Xorg -configure
[21:21] <gRunt> Hi all i need to install my first file from a .tar.gz file and i dont know what to do. its currently on my hdd could anyone give me a hand im using the tutorial from http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Download#DownloadlatestLinuxwirelessdrivers but the extract command isnt working.
[21:21] <jbarket> Ridiculous question, but I just installed Ubuntu on a machine with 2 NICs. The only interface setup by default was the loopback device... I added eth0, but it doesn't appear to be the one I'm using. Is there a way to figure out what the other device is called? eth1 = fail
[21:21] <inertial> what is there for converting WAVs between different sample rates/channel numbers on linux
[21:21] <KoenigseggCC> hadi57: Don't know anything about that, but googling for "ubuntu htc touch connect" might help?
[21:21] <usr13> ManaPirat: tnries ?
[21:21] <demon_> usr13, Fatal server error:
[21:21] <usr13> demon_: rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[21:22] <usr13> demon_: and try again.
[21:22] <ljl_> jjL
[21:22] <ManaPirat> yeah, tried the perisisons - couldnt sudo and all
[21:22] <demon_> same usr13
[21:22] <gRunt> Hi all i need to install my first file from a .tar.gz file and i dont know what to do. its currently on my external hdd could anyone give me a hand im using the tutorial from http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Download#DownloadlatestLinuxwirelessdrivers but the extract command isnt working.
[21:22] <usr13> You have to kill the Xserver first
[21:22] <Gartral2> why the hell am i geting these numbers tagged to my name >.<
[21:22] <jiffe92> what is the upper bound to uids?
[21:22] <ActionParsnip> jbarket: ifconfig
[21:23] <Gaming4JC> ActionParsnip: did you see my log? http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d10fb808f
[21:23] <ActionParsnip> Gartral2: you are logged in to irc twice as you
[21:23] <jiffe92> like, can I have a 32 bit uid?
[21:23] <ActionParsnip> Gartral2: so your client changes the name so its different
[21:23] <demon_> usr13, let me tell you what is my problem my 8.10 cant recognize my monitor i have another one that can but its lil bit broken so i need manually  to set my Xorg
[21:23] <nightrid3r> !ot
[21:24] <usr13> demon_: restart in single user mode    linux single
[21:24] <guntbert> !compile | gRunt
[21:24] <Kuukkeli^> oh well, time to Download ATI crap proprietary driver back
[21:24] <demon_> usr13, how ??
[21:24] <Kuukkeli^> ... I'm going to cry soon ;E
[21:24] <gRunt> thnks guntburt i have to compile as i cant get net so wish me luck :)
[21:24] <usr13> demon_: But it should be detected and adjusted automatically.
[21:24] <Unirgy> crap... linux just doesn't want to work for me
[21:24] <Kuukkeli^> ubuntu doesn't like my PC.
[21:25] <nym> anyone know how to execute commands remotely over ssh?
[21:25] <usr13> demon_: Unless there is a KVM switch. Some KVM switches will hinder that process.
[21:25] <Kuukkeli^> r600/r700 ati radeon piece of crap
[21:25] <jiffe92> looks like 9999999 is the highest I can go by default, can that be changed?
[21:25] <TruthTaco1> i want to install some codecs for smplayer but i dont have root
[21:25] <TruthTaco1> or permission or whatever
[21:25] <ActionParsnip> nym: you can just run them like you are sat at the system. thats what ssh is for (as well as other stuff)
[21:25] <demon_> usr13, i can put my other monitor and restart its good i can put my other monitor and work but i cant do that every time
[21:25] <nym> ActionParsnip: but how?
[21:26] <usr13> demon_: If you want to restart in single user mode, just hit e when grub comes up and give command linux single
[21:26] <ActionParsnip> TruthTaco1: use sudo / gksudo to execute the comand you need
[21:26] <nym> ActionParsnip: the -c flag doesn't do "command"
[21:26] <ActionParsnip> TruthTaco1: there is no root password
[21:26] <TruthTaco1> well im in the GUI, trying to copy some files
[21:26] <usr13> demon_: That's interesting.
[21:26] <ActionParsnip> TruthTaco1: gksudo nautilus
[21:27] <TruthTaco1> thanks
[21:27] <demon_> usr13, in 7.10 there is a setting that i can choose my monitor but on 8.10 i cant
[21:27] <ActionParsnip> TruthTaco1: nautilus will then have admin powers
[21:27] <nym> ActionParsnip: in psql, i can do psql -c "CREATE DATBASE veggies;", but I don't know how to do the same thing with ssh
[21:27] <gRunt> hey guntburt because i dont have net access both packages the tutorial suggests i have (build-essentials and checkinstall) can't be found will that matter?
[21:27] <ActionParsnip> nym: just get connected and launch the command
[21:28] <nym> ActionParsnip: you're missing the point, i don't want to "get connected", i just want to run a one liner that connects and executes the command
[21:28] <nym> ActionParsnip: just like psql connects to the postgres db, and executes "CREATE DATBASE veggies;"
[21:29] <TruthTaco1> is there any way i can get realtime support in smplayer without having to install it manually? i cant find the correct dir
[21:29] <nym> ActionParsnip: i'm guessing you don't know how to execute commands remotely
[21:29] <ManaPirat> usr13 solved the problem - either via adding to sudoers or because of restart idk
[21:29] <rww> nym: just add the command to the end of your normal ssh line. E.g.: ssh rww@myremoteserver "ls -l"
[21:29] <nym> ty rww
[21:30] <usr13> ManaPirat: Ok, sorry I wasn't more help
[21:30] <ActionParsnip> nym: once you get connected you can type commands like a terminal and they wil be executed remotely
[21:30] <ActionParsnip> rww: is tat not the same as what i'm sugesting?
[21:31] <gRunt> Need some help installing an app off an external hdd using the commands on the following site http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Download#DownloadlatestLinuxwirelessdrivers Not quite sure how to do it via terminal if anyone could help via pm please.
[21:31] <rww> ActionParsnip: No. Normal ssh connections are in interactive mode. As far as I can tell, nym wanted to run in non-interactive mode, where he specifies the command to run on the local command line, it connects to ssh, runs it, then quits, all in one line.
[21:31] <ActionParsnip> rww: i see
[21:32] <guntbert> gRunt: I sent you the link to read how to compile a program from a tar ball, not to criticize :)
[21:32] <rww> ActionParsnip: I use it in shell scripts sometimes. There are probably other use cases for it too.
[21:32] <DaDa|Urka> why does the cpu freq scaling not work with an intel atom N330
[21:32] <Dreamglider> How do i stream live audio to computers on lan ?
[21:32] <gRunt> the first two steps to install some apps required for compiling werent found guntburt. While I don't think i am completely retarded this is somewhat over my head for a first day user :)
[21:33] <ActionParsnip> rww: so the apps continue to execute even if the ssh connection is closed. I thought that was used to run a command when you first connect
[21:33] <demon_> usr13, i had this same problem back at ubuntu  6.06 but a guy took my xorg asked me for my monitor and he fixed it :) so if you know this guy it will be a lot of help :P
[21:34] <rww> ActionParsnip: you're misunderstanding me. With `ssh rww@remoteserver "ls -l"`, for example, ssh would connect to remoteserver, run ls -l, display the output, then quit ssh.
[21:34] <rww> ActionParsnip: nothing's running after the ssh connection is closed.
[21:34] <ActionParsnip> rww: i see, so my idea was kinda the same but not
[21:34] <jiffe92> alright I must have hit something else it doesn't like, I think 2^31-1 is the limit
[21:34] <ActionParsnip> rww: as its not as smooth but achieves the same end
[21:35] <rww> ActionParsnip: As far as I can see, your idea was to just run ssh as normal, right? That's similar, but doesn't work for certain situations. Shell scripts, as I said, are one example.
[21:36] <ActionParsnip> rww: i was suggesting connecting, then launching whatever, then logging off
[21:37] <gc_> my isp has stealthed port 22. is there any way i can get around this for using ssh?
[21:37] <jrib> gc_: use a different port?
[21:37] <guntbert> gRunt: if you type somebodie's nick, the line will be highlighted for him/her (in my case type gun<tab>), did you install build-essential?
[21:37] <guntbert> !info build-essential
[21:38] <rww> gc_: Change your ssh server port. Edit /etc/ssh/sshd_config and change the "Port" line, then restart ssh with sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart
[21:38] <Myrth> sadly, linux on desktop is still a joke... most of my hardware periferals do not have normal support: nvidia dualhead, canon mf4150, logitech orbit af, soundcard stops working just in the middle, needs reboot...
[21:38] <gc_> using a diff. port results nothing. ports for pop3 refused connection.
[21:38] <demon_> can some fix my XORG i cant put more than 640*480
[21:39] <rww> gc_: So a random high-level port (like 51413 or something) doesn't work either?
[21:39] <gc_> my isp has blocked most all ports. workaround needed. any ideas?
[21:39] <austin> Most youtube videos won't play..i hear sound for a sec, the video freezes then dissapears....any help?
[21:39] <jrib> gc_: tell your isp you want to use ssh then
[21:39] <rabidweezle> what is the command to bring up the wireless network applet?
[21:39] <ActionParsnip> demon_: try looking at mine: http://pastebin.com/f74b493e4
[21:39] <Guest25503> hi, need help adjusting fan speeds on my sony laptop, anyone know how>?
[21:39] <rabidweezle> the ubuntu gnome wireless network app
[21:39] <Wicked> !beep
[21:39] <ActionParsnip> !info beep
[21:40] <austin> anyone?
[21:40] <rww> rabidweezle: nm-applet
[21:40] <rabidweezle> ty
[21:40] <gc_> to you it'd be possible to negotiate an isp to unblock a port? i will give it a try.
[21:40] <jrib> gc_: by the way, most people use 2222.  Did that not work?
[21:40] <Wicked> on 8.10 every once in a while ill get the system beep. i have no idea why its beeping..there is nothing obvious going on. any ideas?
[21:40] <guntbert> !pm | gRunt
[21:40] <gc_> i've not tried 2222. trying now.
[21:40] <jrib> gc_: if there's nothing in your TOS forbidding you from running ssh, I don't see why not
[21:40] <rabidweezle> ty rww
[21:40] <skiwithpete> sorry, I want to adjust fan speed in 8.04
[21:41] <skiwithpete> anyone know how?
[21:41] <ActionParsnip> Wicked:  sudo rmmod pcspkr
[21:41] <ActionParsnip> Wicked: will stop the beep, i'd check your system logs and dmesg for clues
[21:41] <Wicked> ActionParsnip, well i know i can stop the beeping...but id like to find out why its beeping.
[21:41] <gc_> connection refused on 2222 as well
[21:42] <jrib> gc_: you are positive you are testing this correctly?
[21:42] <guntbert> gRunt: try without checkinstall
[21:42] <samba_> Should I make a question in nagios chan but nobody there , can I question here ? Anybody use nagios ?
[21:42] <rww> gc_: And you're sure it's not being blocked by your router or something, rather than your ISP?
[21:42] <rabidweezle> does anyone remember the name of the app that let's you config the menu in fluxbox?
[21:42] <gc_> dell mobile broadband card. no router.
[21:42] <guntbert> !ot | samba_
[21:43] <tramsie> its stuck and says corrupt kernel image
[21:43] <tramsie> i get the error as soon as i boot from the first screen
[21:43] <tramsie> it gives a menu to install ubuntu
[21:43] <tramsie> i hit return and nothing ahppens
[21:43] <tramsie> i pressed the esc key and it gave text based menu
[21:43] <tramsie> then it gives an error kernel image corrupt
[21:43] <gc_> and i visited website shieldsup and was confirmed stealthed, blocked by isp.
[21:43] <tramsie> its ubuntu 8.1
[21:43] <FloodBot2> tramsie: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:44] <supertanker> Can I squeeze a minimum Server instrall into 970.6 megabytes? >_>
[21:44] <tramsie> i installed on vmware
[21:44] <supertanker> I built an old server case, but the BIOS is buggy and won't take a hard drive bigger than 30GB
[21:44] <supertanker> and so the smallest size I have is...1.1GB
[21:44] <rww> rabidweezle: install fluxconf, then use fluxmenu?
[21:44] <tramsie> Anyone
[21:45] <tramsie> ?
[21:45] <ikonia> anyone what ?
[21:45] <nightrid3r> supertanker upgrade the bios?
[21:45] <jrib> gc_: what port is your server running on now?
[21:45] <tramsie> ikonia: I asked my question
[21:45] <skiwithpete> is it possible to adjust fan speed on my laptop 8.04
[21:45] <tramsie> I get that rror kernel image corrupt
[21:45] <rabidweezle> just remembered how to edit by hand ^_^
[21:45] <Wicked> also is there a better service manager? the one in system>admin>services sucks real bad...doest list all the services...ie not even cups is in there
[21:45] <ikonia> tramsie: so saying anyone is poitnless
[21:45] <rabidweezle> ty anyway rww
[21:46] <rww> gc_: If your ISP doesn't want you running an ssh server, maybe you... shouldn't... run... an ssh server...?
[21:47] <epaphus> Hey guys, how can I install SSHD for Ubuntu?
[21:47] <gc_> maybe you're right. i'll maybe mention to them it before giving up. thanks help all.
[21:47] <rww> epaphus: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[21:47] <jrib> !ssh | epaphus
[21:47] <foofie> lo folks
[21:47] <tramsie> I get that error kernel image corrupt
[21:48] <tramsie> what can be done?
[21:48] <tramsie> even if i boot from cd
[21:48] <tramsie> i get same error
[21:48] <dean> boot
[21:48] <rww> !enter | tramsie
[21:49] <dean> are
[21:49] <dean> or
[21:49] <foofie> I'm trying to install xubuntu onto a desktop with 2 HD's that is already set up with LVM. Could anyone answer a few questions I have?
[21:49] <dean> just
[21:49] <rww> dean: Do you have a support question?
[21:50] <epaphus> rww, it says that the openssh-server is not available... but is referred to by another package...
[21:50] <skiwithpete> my laptop is HOT
[21:50] <skiwithpete> want to change the fan speed to cool it dowen
[21:50] <skiwithpete> downb
[21:50] <skiwithpete> down
[21:50] <skiwithpete> pls help
[21:50] <FloodBot2> skiwithpete: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:50] <Picassotamus> !enter
[21:50] <rww> epaphus: Try running "sudo apt-get update" first
[21:50] <dado89> ciao
[21:50] <epaphus> rww, thanks..
[21:51] <dado89> chi c'è di italiano
[21:51] <ikonia> !it
[21:52] <dado89> scjs
[21:52] <dado89> scusa mi puoi spiegare come fare ad andare in ubuntu-it
[21:52] <ikonia> dado89: english in here please
[21:53] <LakesProse> hmm, I'm wondering, a local user with a null shell with be totally harmless right, in a ssh context ?
[21:53] <mrwes> I just installed Denyhosts on my server, and now I can ssh into my box. The /etc/hosts.deny is adding my IP -- how do I change that?
[21:53] <skiwithpete> is there something I can install to control fan speed?
[21:53] <guntbert> dado89: click on #ubuntu-it
[21:53] <hollywoodb> dado89: /join #ubuntu-it
[21:53] <rabidweezle> rww, you know of a lightweight desktop app to hold some icons for me?
[21:54] <hollywoodb> rabidweezle: you mean to draw them on the desktop ?
[21:54] <Be1> how can i mount a .dmg ?
[21:54] <rabidweezle> correct hollywoodb
[21:54] <fearful> Is there any like-app of photo booth from mac on ubuntu?
[21:54] <ryanCH> my kde window effects are not working anymore, how can i re-enable them?
[21:54] <hollywoodb> rabidweezle: idesk can do it and is fairly popular, I believe the rox desktop can do it as well
[21:54] <Dillizar> i have installed 8.10 and now it cant recognize my web cam help
[21:54] <skiwithpete> its so hot, pls help, or I'm going to have to shutdown
[21:54] <rabidweezle> kk
[21:54] <rabidweezle> thanks
[21:55] <jrib> Be1: mount -t hfsplus -o loop foo.dmg foo
[21:55] <kindofabuzz> skiwithpete, what do you expect us to do? magically wish your laptop would get cooler?
[21:56] <jrib> Be1: or maybe just hfs, can't remember
[21:56] <skiwithpete> no kindofabuzz I want to adjust fanspeed so the thing blows harder earlier
[21:56] <bazu> skiwithpete: you use amd CPU ?
[21:56] <skiwithpete> no, Intel
[21:56] <bazu> strange
[21:57] <bazu> my laptop is with amd and it is like oven :P
[21:57] <Be1> jrib: i got this message "ioctl: LOOP_SET_FD: Invalid argument"
[21:57] <jrib> Be1: what did you run?
[21:57] <Be1> jrib:sudo mount -t hfsplus -o loop 018-xxxx-x.dmg foo
[21:58] <skiwithpete> bazu there's a fan script I thought...
[21:58] <jrib> Be1: 1) you might need to use sudo 2) does foo exist as a directory? 3) try hfs instead
[21:58] <skiwithpete> something to mnake your fan blow harder sooner
[21:58] <bazu> skiwithpete,  do you know it ?
[21:58] <guntbert> skiwithpete: usually fan speed is controlled from hardware/BIOS, but maybe the slots are "dirty", most scripts try to reduce fan speed
[21:59] <hollywoodb> skiwithpete: if you google for ubuntu fan control you'll find plenty of information
[21:59] <skiwithpete> bazu, no that's why I'm here
[22:00] <rabidweezle> what's the terminal command for the RUN dialog?
[22:00] <skiwithpete> hollywoodb, can I use stuff from Warty, or should I find something for Hardy?
[22:00] <ikonia> skiwithpete: warty is long dead
[22:01] <jrib> rabidweezle: one doesn't exist iirc.  But there exist small C programs to run it
[22:01] <hollywoodb> skiwithpete: it depends.  If it is a package you should not use it.  If it's a generic script, then it should be fine as long as it doesn't depend on something ancient that is no longer present
[22:01] <rabidweezle> jrib, for the standard gnome alt+f2 hotkey?
[22:01] <rabidweezle> jrib, or is that just a part of gnome itself?
[22:02] <hollywoodb> rabidweezle: for non-gnome/kde/xfce desktop you'll probably want to install something like gmrun
[22:02] <jrib> rabidweezle: yes.  It's part of gnome-panel
[22:02]  * Tesla returns!
[22:02] <bazu> skiwithpete, http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Fan_control_scripts
[22:02] <Be1> jrib:  could it be becase is has a passwd
[22:02] <jrib> Be1: yes, probably
[22:02] <Be1> ill check
[22:03] <tramsie> IIRC ubuntu had a Gutsy had a problem on VMWare, you had to bypass graphics card drivers or soeting
[22:03] <Chikubu> is there a utility to mount ext4 in winxp?
[22:04] <Dillizar> web cam problems on 8.10 any one ??
[22:04] <ikonia> Chikubu: no, only ext3
[22:04] <guntbert> tramsie: intrepid in virtualbox runs fine
[22:04] <bazu> skiwithpete, do you taste it ?
[22:04] <vaio> hey guys, how can i give another user a rootdocument in apache so they can have their own homepage?
[22:04] <eseven73> How do i get cinelerra working in intrepid? I dont see it in the repos or a PPA only a PPA for hardy
[22:04] <Gartral2> is there a firewall/filter on local host in 8.10?
[22:04] <ikonia> vaio: look at mod_public
[22:04] <Dillizar> !webcam
[22:05] <ikonia> Gartral2: nothing enabled by default
[22:05] <vaio> ikonia, what should i look at there?
[22:05] <eseven73> !info cinelerra
[22:06] <Be1> jrib:http://paste.ubuntu.com/129956/plain/
[22:07] <LakesProse> last try: a linux shelless user can pretty much only port forward over ssh?
[22:07] <Be1> lol
[22:08] <kastaki> hi
[22:08] <jrib> Be1: /b #iphone
[22:08] <jrib> Be1: ignore that
[22:09] <jrib> Be1: just use pwnage tool http://blog.iphone-dev.org/ .  But this is offtopic here
[22:09] <unr3a1> hey all
[22:10] <unr3a1> where is openssl installed in ubuntu 8.10?
[22:10] <unr3a1> I cannot find it
[22:10] <unr3a1> I am trying to find the extconf.rb file, but I cannot
[22:11] <Chikubu> use a searc program, search the whole file system
[22:11] <unr3a1> what search program?
[22:11] <Chikubu> anyway to mount ext4 in xp, or is that not out yet?
[22:12] <bigrigger> unr3a1: sudo find / -name 'extconf.rb'  try that in a terminal.
[22:13] <_dbd_l12> unr3a1: i guess openssl itself should be just a simple "apt-get install openssl" away. Maybe you also need the libssl-dev package?
[22:13] <batistet> hello friends.which antivirus should i use?
[22:13] <bazu> none :P
[22:13] <batistet> avast!?
[22:13] <ikonia> batistet: most situations don''t require antiviru on linux
[22:14] <batistet> well i expected that question
[22:14] <kos> hi - I need help with a DHCP Modem to update BIND9 on Ubuntu
[22:14] <batistet> but i've got friends that use windows
[22:14] <ikonia> kos: #bind for bind support
[22:14] <davdav> Good evening to all of you m happy if you help?
[22:14] <ikonia> batistet: you're not using windows - so it doesn't matter what they use
[22:14] <bazu> 82% of viruses are only for windows
[22:14] <batistet> yes i know that but.
[22:14] <bazu> and we have mac and unix :P
[22:14] <bazu> more
[22:14] <unr3a1> _dbd_l12: I have the latest versions of both those apps.
[22:15] <bazu> take it easy :P
[22:15] <batistet> i've heard that avast is quite good
[22:15] <usr13> bazu: What are the other 18percent for?
[22:15] <batistet> just wondering if you used anything different
[22:15] <ikonia> batistet: use what you want then if you don't want to follow the advice given
[22:15] <bazu> mac and unux
[22:15] <bazu> unix
[22:15] <bazu> sorry
[22:15] <rww> batistet: For Ubuntu systems, you don't need anti-viral software. For Windows, ask in ##windows, not here.
[22:16] <erle64-> is there a easy way to add apps to a live cd?
[22:16] <batistet> i'm sorry if i annoyed you all
[22:16] <ikonia> erle64-: same as normal install
[22:16] <ikonia> batistet: not annoyed anyone, don't worry
[22:16] <usr13> erle64-: Yes
[22:16] <batistet> i just wanted to protect my friends
[22:16] <bazu> batistet, wait one minute
[22:16] <batistet> just that
[22:16] <toastmonster> i am trying to kill ubuntu
[22:16] <toastmonster> can someone help me
[22:16] <bazu> and i`m gonna tell you
[22:16] <ikonia> batistet: installing anyvirus on linux won't protect your friends windows clients
[22:16] <bazu> just right i search it
[22:16] <erle64-> ikonia, usr13, how? just installing it while the session is running?
[22:16] <ikonia> toastmonster: what's the issue ?
[22:16] <toastmonster> i want to reformat and install windows 95
[22:16] <usr13> toastmonster: Sure
[22:16] <ikonia> erle64-: correct
[22:16] <batistet> i know that too
[22:16] <red-lichtie_> toastmonster: Easy, install windoze :)
[22:16] <_dbd_l12> unr3a1: you may also need libssl0.9.8
[22:16] <ikonia> toastmonster: if you're trying to troll - go else where
[22:16] <usr13> toastmonster: No problem
[22:17] <toastmonster> ikonia its not compatible with my network card
[22:17] <cholisterix> hi gys does anybody knows an ubuntu application that finds an artist by some lyrics???
[22:17] <ikonia> toastmonster: if you have a serious problem, please ask
[22:17] <erle64-> ikonia, is that saved on live usb sticks?
[22:17] <ikonia> erle64-:
[22:17] <ikonia> erle64-: no, sorry
[22:17] <cholisterix> anybody?
[22:17] <toastmonster> and i just have no idea how to reformat it
[22:17] <batistet> it would have to be a very good one to protect my friends .even linux couldn't do that. windows has many holes
[22:17] <cholisterix> or maybe a site ?
[22:17] <batistet> :P
[22:17] <unr3a1> _dbd_l12:  I have that as well
[22:17] <ikonia> batistet: no - installing antivirus on linux will not protect your friends windows install - fact
[22:18] <ikonia> toastmonster: just install over the top of it, or delete the partitions
[22:18] <usr13> toastmonster: use a hammerdrill
[22:18] <ikonia> usr13: that's not helpful
[22:18] <erle64-> ikonia, do you have any link or something?
[22:18] <cholisterix> actually i am looking for a song that says "out of reach out of touch " it is a rock ballad... :-)
[22:18] <usr13> ikonia: Sorry
[22:18] <erle64-> ikonia, i didnt finde useful things via google
[22:18] <davdav> I want to connect a server on French free.fr
[22:18] <ikonia> cholisterix: this is ubuntu support - please find a more approriate channel
[22:18] <davdav> help me
[22:18] <cholisterix> ikonia, : hmm ok
[22:18] <ikonia> erle64-: there is a guide on help.ubuntu.com about maintaining live session data on a usb stick
[22:19] <usr13> ikonia: Just that I don't see any ubuntu questions.  Thought it was play time.
[22:19] <erle64-> ikonia, yea, but thats user data, i want to add apps
[22:19] <eseven73> usr13: #ubuntu-offopic for playtime :)
[22:19] <cholisterix> ikonia, : but does anybody knows an ubuntu application that search music lyrics??
[22:19] <toastmonster> usr13 whats a hammerdrill-i'm a complete noob. I'm putting in the windows boot disk, but i can
[22:19] <toastmonster> whoops
[22:19] <ikonia> erle64-: not going to happen unless it's installed in a user home directory
[22:19] <toastmonster> i can't find the bios
[22:19] <cholisterix> ikonia, : just asking if there is an app for that :-)
[22:19] <erle64-> ikonia, i doesnt need to be dynamicly, i just want to costumize the live system
[22:19] <unr3a1> _dbd_l12: let me show you the problem I am getting.
[22:19] <ikonia> toastmonster: you need to contact your hardware vendor/manual for that
[22:20] <usr13> toastmonster: ask on #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:20] <_dbd_l12> unr3a1: is it possible this is a ruby source file? ok, show me
[22:20] <erle64-> ikonia, before i use it
[22:20] <ikonia> erle64-: you could re-spin a livecd with the applications you want installed
[22:20] <wolter> which is the apt package for the default wireless drivers?
[22:20] <cholisterix> ikonia, : do you know such app , if exists for ubuntu ??
[22:20] <erle64-> ikonia, thats what i want, how do i do that? what are the recommended tools?
[22:20] <ikonia> wolter: they are already installed
[22:20] <ikonia> cholisterix: no
[22:20] <toastmonster> ikonia it was there when i installed ubuntu, but i can't get there now
[22:20] <davdav> I want to connect a server on French free.fr
[22:20] <davdav> help me if you enjoy I have a little trouble with mirc
[22:20] <ikonia> !respin
[22:20] <toastmonster> i used it to install it
[22:20] <ch4v3z> i did, "dpkg-reconfigure kdm" and it still doesn't use kdm as default, how can i fix this?
[22:20] <wolter> ikonia, i know... which is the package?
[22:20] <ikonia> toastmonster: ubuntu can't touch your bios
[22:20] <usr13> cholisterix: apt-cache search apt-name
[22:20] <ikonia> wolter: the kernel
[22:21] <unr3a1> _dbd_l12:  http://rafb.net/p/B6KsGs14.html
[22:21] <wolter> ikonia, ok
[22:21] <usr13> !apt-cache
[22:21] <ikonia> davdav: we don't support mirc
[22:21] <cholisterix> usr13, : thanks but i was looking for an app that i don't now if it exists :-)
[22:21] <Dillizar> i am installing a debian program and i need to execute->webcam what is execute in ubuntu
[22:21] <unr3a1> _dbd_l12:  I googled the error, and got this in one of the results: http://www.ruby-forum.com/topic/90083
[22:21] <usr13> cholisterix: Describe it. What does it do?
[22:22] <ikonia> Dillizar: don't install debian packages on ubuntu
[22:22] <batistet> so your suggestion is that i don't use one antivirus
[22:22] <ikonia> batistet: yes
[22:22] <batistet> given the amount of viruses for windows
[22:22] <_dbd_l12> maybe you could try installing ruby1.8-dev (or whatever it's called). Looks very hard like a missing ruby dep.
[22:22] <cholisterix> usr13 : an ubuntu application that search music artist by some lyrics??
[22:22] <ikonia> batistet: that has nothing to do with it
[22:22] <rww> batistet: Once again, for Ubuntu systems, you don't need anti-viral software. For Windows, ask in ##windows, not here.
[22:22] <Dillizar> ikonia, its from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EasyCam
[22:22] <usr13> cholisterix: google
[22:23] <cholisterix> usr13, : ha ha ok :-)
[22:23] <batistet> yes rww
[22:23] <batistet> i know that
[22:23] <batistet> i will suggest my friends to start using linux too
[22:23] <ikonia> Dillizar: so what's the problem
[22:23] <usr13> batistet: Yes, no need to use antivirus if you are linux user.
[22:23] <ikonia> batistet: let them use what they want
[22:23] <batistet> yes
[22:23] <batistet> it will be just a suggestion no harm in that:P
[22:24] <cholisterix> usr13, : but it's almost impossible to find "out of reach out of touch " contained in a lyric that is rock ballad
[22:24] <cholisterix> usr13, : i only find pop songs :(
[22:24] <Dillizar> ikonia,  i need to execute->webcam and i dont know what is that
[22:24] <cholisterix> usr13, : thanks anyway :-)
[22:24] <ikonia> gksudo 'python /usr/share/EasyCam2/core.py --gtk'
[22:24] <batistet> well friends thanks for the information
[22:24] <myron> xkill won't work with fullscreen wine applications, is there a program that does?
[22:24] <ikonia> Dillizar: it says what to do in the webpage you posted to me
[22:25] <unr3a1> _dbd_l12: ruby1.8-dev is already latest version
[22:25] <_dbd_l12> unr3a1: will read some more into the thread link you posted, seems to contain some interesting pointers
[22:26] <davdav> I do not understand what you want me to understand, we do not support mirc
[22:26] <usr13> cholisterix: http://www.stlyrics.com/songs/u/ufo3991/belladonna189850.html
[22:26] <ikonia> davdav: mirc is a windows appliction, this channel does not offer help for mirc
[22:27] <Dillizar> ikonia, what is this Module gspca not found.
[22:27] <cholisterix> usr13, : o my :-) :-)
[22:27] <quibbler> cholisterix: http://www.elyrics.net/read/b/black-lungs-lyrics/when-it_s-blackout-lyrics.html
[22:27] <myron> does anyone know of a program that will kill wine apps?
[22:27] <cholisterix> usr13, : that is THANKS:-)
[22:27] <ikonia> Dillizar: the kernel module it wants to load for the webcam is not found
[22:27] <usr13> cholisterix: Thanks google
[22:27] <dashavoo> myron: kill or killall
[22:27] <cholisterix> usr13, : thanks A LOT :-) :-) hahahahaha yes
[22:27] <sixofour> sudo unrar e x Outgoing.rar doesn't work, but i need both options [e and x]
[22:28] <cholisterix> usr13, : it was that Belladona's songs ;)
[22:28] <quibbler> cholisterix: http://www.poemhunter.com/song/belladonna/
[22:28] <myron> dashavoo: wouldn't kill all also kill the x server?
[22:28] <cholisterix> quibbler, : nice it is ok thanks
[22:29] <dashavoo> killall name-of-process kills all processes with that name
[22:29] <dashavoo> myron
[22:29] <davdav> you do not work on windows?
[22:29] <Dillizar> ikonia, so how can i put it :)
[22:29] <ikonia> davdav: no
[22:29] <rww> davdav: This channel is for Ubuntu Linux technical support. mIRC is not an Ubuntu Linux program. You are in the wrong place.
[22:29] <ikonia> davdav: try the ##windows channel
[22:30] <duvnell1> trying to know what it's called.. please complete this sentence for me:  Ubuntu doesn't run sys v init scripts to start services, it uses _______. ?
[22:30] <_Whipper__> hmph :L
[22:30] <ikonia> davdav: upstart
[22:30] <rww> duvnell1: upstart?
[22:30] <ikonia> duvnell1: upstart
[22:30] <duvnell1> perhaps so.. didn't even know what to google  for.. thx
[22:31] <duvnell1> are there others?
[22:31] <_Whipper__> others what?
[22:31] <kitche> duvnell1: upstart but it's still SysVinit sort of just a different version of it really
[22:31] <myron> dashavoo: Thanks, I'll give it a shot.
[22:31] <ikonia> duvnell1: you can use init-ng, upstart, sysvinit
[22:31] <duvnell1> init-ng is what gentoo uses?
[22:32] <_Whipper__> duvnell1, : u mean gentoo or Sabayon? :)
[22:32] <davdav> ok thank you ubuntu community good evening
[22:32] <duvnell1> dunno :)..
[22:32] <ch4v3z> i can't even get kwin to run, it says "kwin: unable to claim manager selection, another wm running?"
[22:32] <duvnell1> thx for inof
[22:33] <kitche> ch4v3z: you most likely have metacity running or another window manager
[22:33] <dookie> |
[22:33] <ch4v3z> kitche, how do i change it?
[22:33] <kitche> ch4v3z: killall <window manager> && kwin --replace
[22:34] <ch4v3z> killall?
[22:34] <ch4v3z> <window manager> ?
[22:34] <kitche> ch4v3z: yes the window manager you are running
[22:34] <_dbd_l12> unr3a1: did you compile ruby from source? if you used the packages you could try installing libopenssl-ruby (there are libs for diff. ruby versions in the repos)
[22:35] <_Whipper__> not literatully u have to kill all :)
[22:35] <Dillizar> how can i install libv4l2?
[22:36] <_Whipper__> Dillizar, : use Synaptic
[22:36] <Dillizar> _Whipper__, hmm thanks dude i forgot that :P
[22:36] <Axalix> sudo aptitude install libv4l2
[22:36] <_Whipper__> no prblm
[22:36] <unr3a1> _dbd_l12:  I did not compile from source, I installed via apt-get
[22:36] <gumpert345> hi is there a way to install ubuntu with a kernel, that doesnt require a pae cpu?
[22:37] <unr3a1> _dbd_l12:  let me try getting that libopenssl-ruby
[22:37] <koshari> ch4v3z: why dont you use a window manager and log out and log back into kde?
[22:37] <kitche> gumpert345: umm what pae is for memory has nothing to do with cpu
[22:37] <_Whipper__> Axalix, : i'll allways try to get'em use GUI, when they r new to Lin..
[22:37] <myron> dashavoo: well, I tried "killall wineserver" but it just froze the applications that were open
[22:38] <unr3a1> _dbd_l12:  you are my hero  :)  that worked..
[22:38] <gumpert345> well, my cpu C3 Nehemia has no pae support, but all modern kernel support pae and require it to run (says wikipedia)
[22:38] <Axalix> Whipper, all right
[22:38] <_dbd_l12> no problem, i'm no ruby expert so i'm glad it worked ;)
[22:39] <unr3a1> _dbd_l12:  here is the result now:  http://rafb.net/p/sR9XO335.html
[22:39] <_Whipper__> afterall, isnt Ubun.. just that, "easy to use and graphical" :)
[22:39] <joe-cool> hi@all
[22:39] <_dbd_l12> unr3a1: that's better ;)
[22:39] <unr3a1> _dbd_l12: where did you end up finding the package I needed?
[22:39] <kitche> gumpert345: wrong never trust wikipedia
[22:39] <Sonderblade> is there a gui tool for managing partitions?
[22:40] <Samy> gparted
[22:40] <_Whipper__> Sonderblade, :Gparted
[22:40] <Sonderblade> thanks
[22:40] <Samy> ;)
[22:40] <_Whipper__> Sonderblade, : and others too..
[22:40] <_dbd_l12> unr3a1: a combination of some google-fu and the great tool apt-file which lets you search through the repos based on filename
[22:41] <myron> does anyone know of a command that will kill all running wine programs?
[22:41] <kitche> myron: killall wine-server I believe
[22:41] <_Whipper__> myron, : shutdown is one..
[22:41] <unr3a1> _dbd_l12:  doh... should have thought of the apt-get search.  I always forget that.  thanks again, much appreciated
[22:42] <myron> kitche: that froze up the wine programs, and did not kill them
[22:42] <kitche> myron: killall wine
[22:42] <_VIM_> apt-cache search unr3a1 :)
[22:42] <_dbd_l12> unr3a1: well apt-file find x is different than apt-cache search. you'd need the package apt-file installed first. but it comes in handy very often
[22:42] <gumpert345> kitche but this time i tend to believe it, I tried ubuntu 8.10 9.04 mythdora 10 and centos 5.2 and they always reboot about 1 second after starting, noapic and acpi=off can stretch that a little, like 2 seconds, I once ran openfiler on it (2 years ago) I think it used a 2.4... kernel, which is said, not to support pae
[22:43] <unr3a1> _VIM_: yea.. I always forget that...
[22:43] <unr3a1> _dbd_l12:  indeed.
[22:43] <ch4v3z> koshari, the main thing i want is to get my desktop effects back
[22:43] <myron> kitche: wine isn't a process
[22:43] <dashavoo> myron: use the names of apps, sometimes the whole windows-style path is necessary too
[22:43] <Samy> I use ubuntu 7.10 in a HP tx1000. I'm connected to my wifi router. I have the weird problem that I cannot open www.google.com or www.google.cl , but I can actually see any other website. In fact, from my PC (not this notebook) that is connected to the same wifi router (with a cable) I can see google as well as any other website. Here in my notebook I have tried to ping www.google.com and it has no output. Could someone give an idea, please?
[22:43] <hollywoodb> myron: ps aux | grep wine
[22:43] <hollywoodb> myron: then kill whatever shows up using the pid
[22:44] <_Whipper__> wine is something u should not touch.. even with a stick
[22:44] <drgreenth> Tiedostojärj.            Koko  Käyt Vapaa Käy% Liitospiste
[22:44] <drgreenth> /dev/sda1             213G   84G  118G  42% /
[22:44] <drgreenth> tmpfs                 2,0G     0  2,0G   0% /lib/init/rw
[22:44] <drgreenth> varrun                2,0G  400K  2,0G   1% /var/run
[22:44] <drgreenth> varlock               2,0G     0  2,0G   0% /var/lock
[22:44] <FloodBot2> drgreenth: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:44] <drgreenth> udev                  2,0G   92K  2,0G   1% /dev
[22:45] <myron> hollywoodb: that's do-able, but I was looking for something that would kill a frozen full screen app, without having to reboot or logout
[22:45] <bazu> what`s the diferent between apt-get and aptitude
[22:45] <_Whipper__> some Finnish blood in the line i see :)
[22:46] <LjL> !aptitude | bazu
[22:46] <unr3a1> _dbd_l12:  thank you again.  you too _VIM_.
[22:46] <_VIM_> :)
[22:46] <bazu> but is better to use apt-get right ?
[22:47] <allalt> :)
[22:47] <bazu> becouse i start aptitude dist-upgrade and that show me to remove desktop firefox
[22:47] <_Whipper__> bazu, : its a matter of opinion..
[22:47] <bazu> and almost everythink
[22:47] <epaphus> hey guys, anybody can show me how to encrypt the entire filesystem??
[22:47] <amikrop> Canonical, or even better, The Linux Foundation, should seriously collaborate with major software vendors like EA sports, Blizzard or Adobe.
[22:48] <_Whipper__> epaphus, : why?
[22:48] <allalt> ne
[22:48] <amikrop> It's unacceptable to be unable to use very popular and useful applications.
[22:48] <myron> ahh, I found my answer, wineserver -k
[22:48] <_VIM_> epaphus: i donno about the "entire" filesystem but try truecrypt maybe
[22:48] <epaphus> _Whipper__, i think that that is an option in Ubuntu.. right?
[22:48] <_dbd_l12> epaphus: the information is just one google search away, e.g. http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/7743
[22:48] <myron> Thanks for the help everyoen
[22:49] <epaphus> _VIM_, hmm i thought there was a preinstalled tool ?
[22:49] <_VIM_> there may be
[22:49] <_dbd_l12> epaphys: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemHowto
[22:50] <shane_> I have an sd card mounted as /home on my eeepc in jaunty. Up until very recently gdm tells me /home doesn't exist when I try to log in. If I mount with mount -a, it works and I can log in. Why isn't this being mounted on boot like the "auto" option commands?
[22:50] <_dbd_l12> epaphys: if you're on 8.10: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemOnIntrepid
[22:50] <shane_> I have an sd card mounted as /home on my eeepc in jaunty. Up until very recently gdm tells me /home doesn't exist when I try to log in. If I mount with mount -a, it works and I can log in. Why isn't this being mounted on boot like the "auto" option commands?
[22:50] <bazu> http://paste.ubuntu.com/129965/
[22:50] <shane_> Oops..sorry for the double post
[22:50] <bazu> do you think that is normal ?
[22:51] <kitche> shane_: #ubuntu+1 for jaunty support
[22:51] <shane_> @kitche: Thanks!
[22:52] <dashavoo> bazu: happens sometimes
[22:52] <_Whipper__> hmm.. abaout jaunty.. how is it coming together?
[22:52] <bazu> if i use apt-get dist-uprade
[22:52] <bazu> everythink it`s ok
[22:52] <bruce89> _Whipper__: fineish
[22:52] <_Whipper__> bruce89, : great :)
[22:52] <shane_> _Whipper__ I'm more impressed with jaunty than intrepid in devel
[22:53]  * bruce89 can't stand notify-osd
[22:53] <SaturnDriver> can anyone help me get two sound cards working at the same time? My second sound card (CMI8738) only works when i disable my onboard realtek hd audio
[22:53] <joe-cool> i'm using jaunty too and its pretty stable
[22:53] <red-lichtie_> Intrepid issue: When I plug in my iPod I always have to reset it before it is seen, this didn't happen in hardy (8.04)
[22:54] <red-lichtie_> Any ideas ?
[22:54] <_Whipper__> SaturnDriver, : theres afair q
[22:54] <joe-cool> buy a mac
[22:54] <_Whipper__> fair
[22:54] <red-lichtie_> joe-cool: And then install windows too ? :p
[22:54] <Dillizar> web cam problems on 8.10 any one ??
[22:54] <dashavoo> I would be using jaunty by now if i had my main pc, and if the bandage was off my right hand
[22:54] <bruce89> joe-cool: hmm
[22:55] <joe-cool> ;-)
[22:55] <_Whipper__> joe-cool: "pretty stable" is enough fo u ?
[22:55] <joe-cool> yes for a alpha it is
[22:56] <Dillizar> !webcam
[22:56] <joe-cool> yesterday i got some problems with rights in my home folder after updating the system but i could fix it fast
[22:56] <_Whipper__> joe-cool, : ok.. i only use "stable" systms on my mainComp..
[22:56] <joe-cool> and firefox crashes sometimes
[22:57] <_Whipper__> 'course i have the athor 2, where i "experiment" :)
[22:58] <macman> there anyway to find out what i sucking my battery dry ?
[22:58] <_Whipper__> macman, : u keep your battery attached allways?
[22:59] <macman> _Whipper__, yea
[22:59] <_Whipper__> macman, : if u do, it'll very quickly shorten the life-span of your battery
[22:59] <epaphus> isnt there an option to make the filesystem encrypted upon the installation of ubuntu?
[22:59] <joe-cool> _Whipper__,  i use jaunty alpha on my laptop because i do nothing "important" so it doesnt matter if it crashes
[22:59] <cholisterix> bye thanks :-)
[23:00] <_Whipper__> macman, : allways if u use ac-power, remove it
[23:00] <macman> i used my ac power almost everyday _Whipper__
[23:00] <SaturnDriver> thats what caused the battery on my sister's laptop to die
[23:00] <macman> right now im on my bed using battery
[23:00] <SaturnDriver> she kept it plugged in all the time, and pretty soon it wouldn't hold a charge any more
[23:00] <Kuukkeli^> Well since ATI r600 r700 open source driver isn't here yet and i would like to play Garry's mod etc. So.. I saw on 1 video that you can keep windows XP and Ubuntu open at the same time, how? =)
[23:00] <mezquitale> anyone knows how to configure my nic???  I installed some software, rebooted my PC, now my machine acts as if it had no nic
[23:01] <epaphus> anybody?
[23:01] <_Whipper__> joe-cool, : so do i, meaning experiments on laptop.. Ubuntu has some Serious problms with Acer aspire 7220..
[23:01] <sint> anyone knows how to find out if ubuntu recognized my wacom and use it as mouse? i have disabled it and vmware tells me it is already used as a mouse in host
[23:01] <_Whipper__> or the other way
[23:01] <SaturnDriver> Kuukkeli^ - you can't really, aside from using QEMU
[23:01] <surf> hi there
[23:02] <joe-cool> _Whipper__, almost everything is supported verygood except the grafic card
[23:02] <joe-cool> radeon hd 2400 mobility -.-
[23:02] <joe-cool> no compiz etc
[23:02] <_Whipper__> joe-cool, : thats just the main prblm, for me
[23:02] <Samy> Hello, I use ubuntu 7.10 in a HP tx1000. I'm connected to my wifi router. I have the weird problem that I cannot open www.google.com or www.google.cl , but I can actually see any other website. In fact, from my PC (not this notebook) that is connected to the same wifi router (with a cable) I can see google as well as any other website. Here in my notebook I have tried to ping www.google.com and it has no output. Could someone give an idea, please?
[23:03] <_Whipper__> joe-cool, : nut theres allways away around
[23:03] <_Whipper__> samy: didnt u asked that allready?
[23:03] <mezquitale> anyone knows how to configure my nic???  I installed some software, rebooted my PC, now my machine acts as if it had no nic
[23:04] <joe-cool> _Whipper__,   "nut theres allways away around" i didnt understand what you wanted to say
[23:04] <Samy> Yeah, sorry. I asked it again 'cause y disconnected and I think tha maybe now someone could help me
[23:05] <joe-cool> DNS problem?
[23:05] <surf> my mga G400 crashes anytime i try using DRI/DRM using the default xorg-video-drivers
[23:05] <_Whipper__> joe-cool, :*typo* "but"
[23:05] <surf> sorry the whole system crashes, and i have three PCI devices using the same IRQ
[23:06] <Dillizar> Simple type the following commands from the libv4l-x.y.z directory <-- i dont understand this
[23:06] <joe-cool> _Whipper__,  ah ok ;-)
[23:06] <_Whipper__> Samy, : looks like a HW-prblm..
[23:07] <joe-cool> Samy, can you connect to any other website from your laptop?
[23:07] <Samy> joe-cool: Yes
[23:07] <jtaby> hey, how would I write a command to recursively delete all the folders called .svn?
[23:07] <joe-cool> okay.. can you ping google?
[23:07] <Samy> when i do that I get not output
[23:08] <jtaby> nvm
[23:08] <Samy> It doesn't even say the "unknown host"
[23:08] <joe-cool> =/
[23:08] <_Whipper__> Samy, : or u got a "friend" behind the wall.. is your wpa etc. all set?
[23:08] <Dante123> guys i got a question.  How do I on ubuntu run flash encoder for justin.tv
[23:09] <Samy> _Whipper__: Yes, I use wpa security.
[23:09] <Samy> _Whipper__:  And the weird thing here is that from the other PC I can see www.google.com
[23:09] <_Whipper__> Samy, : "Unbreakable"?
[23:10] <Lambiato> is anyone familiar with automake tool?
[23:10] <bhsx> where can i find 9.4 beta?
[23:10] <MeisterHolzer> Lambiato: yes
[23:10] <Samy> _Whipper__: Let's say it is completely unbreakable by brute force (it's a lot of numbers and letters randomly selected)
[23:10] <_Whipper__> with Wi-Fi u cant ever be too careful thou..
[23:10] <MeisterHolzer> bhsx: google
[23:10] <surf> jtaby you need to read "man find" then you can define your search
[23:10] <joe-cool> perhaps you have a child-lock without knowing it :-D
[23:10] <rww> !jaunty | bhsx
[23:11] <inertial> is there any command line utility that would allow me to convert a 2 channel wav file to a 1 channel wav file?
[23:11] <bhsx> thanks
[23:11] <bruce89> jtaby: find . -name "*.svn" -exec rm '{}' \;
[23:11] <_Whipper__> Samy, : Nothing is "unbreakabul"
[23:11] <jtaby> bruce89, thanks
[23:11] <Samy> _Whipper__: Well I said "by brute force"
[23:12] <rww> jtaby, bruce89: I'm guessing you might need to change "rm" to "rm -r" because they're directories
[23:12] <bruce89> rww: probably
[23:12] <jtaby> thanks guys
[23:12] <rainwalker> somehow my external drive is recognized as read-only by ubuntu, but works fine with windows (it's just normal FAT32)...is there a way to fix this? it worked fine a day ago
[23:12] <_Whipper__> Samy, : do some googling abaout wifi security.. again :)
[23:12] <bruce89> jtaby: remove the rm bit to make sure it's listing the right directries
[23:13] <mezquitale> rainwalker, look at the permissions
[23:13] <Dante1231> grumpy son wants to play music and talk via webcam (dj) and send stream to justin.tv.  We have the webcam and mic working, but not sure how to add the ability to play music along with that.  Any suggestions?  Any specific apps help make grumpy son happy (and quit whining about Windows)???  :-/
[23:13] <Alastor> I hate to interupt, but I'm attempting to identify if there is a known display issue for attempting to run Ubuntu on a tablet PC.
[23:13] <Samy> _Whipper__: Are you kidding? I can't google
[23:13] <rainwalker> mezquitale: as in, looking in the "Properties" window?
[23:13] <Alastor> I'm trying to set up a dual boot with vista already installed. It goes through the full 7 steps of the instal process, but comes to a display error after the instal alegedly completes. Is anyone aware of an issue like this?
[23:13] <_Whipper__> Samy, : but i doubt thats the real reason for your prblm
[23:13] <Lambiato> MeisterHolzer: Im trying to make program with automake files after using scripts autoscan, autoheader, aclocal, autoconf, automake, configure in all make files the path to libtool is pointing the root project directory not the system libtool in root directory there is only ltmain.sh, i read about ltconfig tool and libtoolize (try to use this to generate libtool script without success)
[23:13] <joe-cool> :-D
[23:14] <Dante123> grumpy son wants to play music and talk via webcam (dj) and send stream to justin.tv.  We have the webcam and mic working, but not sure how to add the ability to play music along with that.  Any suggestions?  Any specific apps help make grumpy son happy (and quit whining about Windows)???  :-/
[23:14] <mezquitale> rainwalker,  go to the device wherever it is mounted and look at the permissions
[23:14] <Samy> _Whipper__: Yes. It doens't make sense, 'cause it happens only in my nb
[23:14] <rww> !repeat > Dante123
[23:14] <_Whipper__> Alastor, : u could make one ?
[23:14] <joe-cool> Samy if you cant google use a yahoo or sth else
[23:15] <eseven73> !u | _Whipper__
[23:15] <_Whipper__> hmlkgf
[23:15] <_Whipper__> sht :)
[23:15] <Alastor> I could make one what?
[23:15] <rainwalker> mezquitale: I have; if I check the symbolic link on the desktop, it says the permissions couldn't be determined. if I check the properties of the drive's folder in /media, it says it's owned by me but in the root group
[23:15] <Alastor> An issue?
[23:16] <Samy> joe-cool: Yes, I know. I was just kidding about googling. Anyway, it still is a problem for me
[23:16] <_Whipper__> Alastor, : nevö mind.. a bit light-headed for all the sleeplesness.. or smthng..
[23:16] <mezquitale> rainwalker, it could be corruption on the hard drive, i would check it for errors using windows
[23:16] <Samy> ( btw, sorry for my awful writing)
[23:17] <_Whipper__> did i just get a f***d message ??
[23:17] <Alastor> Fair enough, Whipper.
[23:17] <Lambiato> i have such "LIBTOOL = $(SHELL) $(top_builddir)/libtool" entry in my Makefiles but they points to unexisting script
[23:17] <rainwalker> mezquitale: I can read/write to the drive just fine in windows
[23:17] <IdentifyTarget> I'm new to ubuntu. Is there a way to install ubuntu and not have it load GRUB? It will be the only OS on the system so I don't need those few extra boot seconds while the computer loads GRUB.
[23:17] <bruce89> no
[23:17] <joe-cool> Samy i still belive in a DNS problem... cant imagine anything else
[23:17] <_Whipper__> anyone else here use "u" for you ?
[23:17] <IdentifyTarget> bruce89: no to me?
[23:17] <joe-cool> yes
[23:18] <rww> !who | bruce89
[23:18] <bruce89> IdentifyTarget: no
[23:18] <tonsofpcs> Intrepid on amd64, for some reason I am unable to add anything to the panel via any means.  Any clues as to why?  Is there a physical folder somewhere that I may have messed up permissions for?
[23:18] <joe-cool> _Whipper__,  i think it is really established
[23:18] <IdentifyTarget> So Ubuntu *requires* grub (or another boot loader) be installed?
[23:18]  * _Whipper__ for a fag and a 28 beers >
[23:19] <jakobbg> hi. generically speaking when trying to make an as quick and small build as possible, is --disable-shared or --enable-shared advisable? And what about the same for -static?
[23:19] <bruce89> IdentifyTarget: just like any other OS
[23:19] <Samy> joe-cool: I don't know what kind of DNS problem could be :\ I have not changed any configuration in nm-applet
[23:19] <joe-cool> hm and the problem occured from one day to another?
[23:19] <IdentifyTarget> ok so the fastest way to make GRUB boot is set the timer to zero?
[23:20] <rww> IdentifyTarget: yeah
[23:20] <IdentifyTarget> ok cool
[23:20] <Samy> joe-cool: Yes. It happens from yestarday
[23:20] <bruce89> IdentifyTarget: that's not a good idea
[23:20] <killfill> how can i install mono 2.0.1 or 2.2 in ubuntu 8.10?
[23:20] <Samy> joe-cool: It happened from one minute to another
[23:20] <IdentifyTarget> O
[23:20] <LetsGo67> Why are there a bunch of warcraftelves3 in my Gmail contact list?
[23:20] <IdentifyTarget> I'm not worried
[23:20] <bruce89> IdentifyTarget: if one kernel won't boot for some reason, you wouldn't be able to boot at all
[23:20] <macman> how do i kill X
[23:21] <hector__> by shooting at it
[23:21] <IdentifyTarget> not a big deal this isn't a system critcial machine, it's a media center
[23:21] <LetsGo67> Ctrl+Alt+Backspace
[23:21] <epaphus> hey guys, this is a silly question.. how do I put the at sign in Ubuntu?
[23:21] <Samy> macman: Maybe what you mean is doing ctrl + alt + backspace
[23:21] <bruce89> !taste | hector__
[23:21] <quibbler> Samy: don't know if this will help but have a look: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=153461
[23:21] <joe-cool> Samy i got a similar problem on windows some time ago and refreshin the dns cache solved the problem but i dont know how to clear the dns cache on linux
[23:21] <epaphus> with a latin keyboard that is.. its under the q
[23:21] <Chousuke> hector__: there actually exists a doom variant that can be used to kill processes :P
[23:21] <killerboy> hi
[23:21] <Chousuke> hector__: by shooting at them
[23:22] <joe-cool> ipconfig /flushdns will not work i think :-D
[23:22] <hector__> man i love doom
[23:22] <hector__> i play it all the time on my psp
[23:22] <killerboy> what purpose blocksize in dd has ?
[23:22] <Lambiato> how to generate project specific libtool script using automake?
[23:22] <Dante1231> grumpy son wants to play music and talk via webcam (dj) and send stream to justin.tv.  We have the webcam and mic working, but not sure how to add the ability to play music along with that.  Any suggestions?  Any specific apps help make grumpy son happy (and quit whining about Windows)???  :-/
[23:22] <Matr|X> sorry guys, when i log in to icq via pidgin ,, its says ur clint is to old i cant log to icq :( eny help plz
[23:22] <bruce89> !ot | hector__
[23:22] <Samy> thank you quibbler, I'll read that
[23:22] <_Whipper__> !42
[23:23] <joe-cool> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade Matr|X
[23:23] <hector__> sorry i want to help people too
[23:23] <hector__> i just like to have fun
[23:23] <akbrant_> Hello
[23:23] <_VIM_> way wrong room to have "fun" in, go to #ubuntu-offtopic for that :)
[23:23] <_Whipper__> and the Best part is that all is logged
[23:24] <_Whipper__> now >
[23:24] <hector__> oh sorry mr. uptight _VIM
[23:24] <_VIM_> hey i smiled at the end of my sentence
[23:24] <hector__> oh sorry
[23:24] <Samy> Mmmm.. now  I see something new ... I can't ping www.google.com but i can ping google.com
[23:24] <hector__> bad eyesight
[23:25] <hector__> i didnt see it
[23:25] <_VIM_> its ok :)
[23:25] <S7UMPY> does anyone know how to get synfig studios running on ubuntu 8.10. It acts like its loading, then just shuts down after that. any ideas?
[23:25] <Crooper> hello?
[23:25] <hector__> now i see it
[23:25] <joe-cool> Samy, if you can ping but not rech via http it could be problem with domain name server ;-)
[23:26] <quibbler> !Hello | Crooper
[23:26] <Kuukkeli^> i got a problem, i dont know where to get all java and other video codecs to watch youtube. =)
[23:26] <joe-cool> try to find out the ip of www.google.com and ping the ip directly
[23:26] <kitche> Kuukkeli^: install flashplugin-nonfree and a jre
[23:26] <Samy> joe-cool: Now it makes sense. and that would explain why the other PC can access www.google.com
[23:27] <Kuukkeli^> nonfree?
[23:27] <Crooper> lol thnx quibbler , i'm tethering from a boat and didn't see any chatting
[23:27] <epaphus> hey guys, this is a silly question.. how do I put the at sign in Ubuntu?
[23:27] <hector__> have you tried using the ADD/Remove feature in ubuntu?
[23:27] <joe-cool> Samy, i think so too
[23:27] <S7UMPY> Kuukkeli^: nonefree
[23:27] <S7UMPY> :P
[23:27] <Kuukkeli^> lol :P
[23:27] <Samy> joe-cool: Could you please give me some ip of www.google.com ?
[23:27] <S7UMPY> but it is free
[23:27] <_VIM_> it's free as in free beer, just not free as in speech
[23:27] <Gerinych> got a problem, i made a new partition for grub and i copied all the grub files from sgd, it worked fine, but then i replaced all the stage files with the ones from a grub0.97 deb package and now it says error 2 every time i try to boot linux or error 15 if i try windows
[23:28] <S7UMPY> does anyone know how to get synfig studios running on ubuntu 8.10. It acts like its loading, then just shuts down after that. any ideas?
[23:28] <joe-cool> Samy, yes but i dont know if its the same ip because of different countries
[23:28] <Samy> I see... you're right
[23:28] <Kuukkeli^> kitche, i forgot how to install plugins >,<
[23:28] <Samy> I'll ask some friend via messenger
[23:28] <bruce89> Samy: 209.85.229.99/
[23:28] <Rods_Tiger> when will ubuntu be usable on an Acer Aspire One netbook?
[23:28] <hector__> S7UMPY did you install all the dependencies that it required?
[23:28] <joe-cool> for best you ping www.google.com from yur other pc and then you receive answer from a ip and this is the ip from google.com
[23:28] <S7UMPY> there are no tutorials i could find for intrepid. all for hardy and lower
[23:29] <eseven73> How do i get cinelerra working in intrepid? I dont see it in the repos or a PPA only a PPA for hardy
[23:29] <syockit> Rods_Tiger: usable, as in out-of-the-box?
[23:29] <Rods_Tiger> yes
[23:29] <Rods_Tiger> install, and it works properly
[23:29] <surf> im using 8.04 hardy with xserver-xorg and default drivers, the system crashes _every_ time i USE DRI/DRM (i.e. glxgears) any idea ?
[23:29] <joe-cool> Samy, you know what i mean?
[23:29] <S7UMPY> im assuming the dependencies are correct because i got them from the add/remove app
[23:29] <_dbd_l12> epaphus: depends on your keyboard setting- what does "sudo cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep XkbLayout" give?
[23:30] <crdlb> surf: what gpu?
[23:30] <Crooper> Rods_Tiger,  i think the embedded verion with netbook mix is out
[23:30] <S7UMPY> and i removed then ran in terminal and still nothing
[23:30] <S7UMPY> installed through terminal*
[23:30] <hector__> oh sometimes it does that still
[23:30] <_VIM_> !pastebin | epaphus
[23:30] <Rods_Tiger> the ubuntu netbook remix is too slow to boot or come out of idle
[23:30] <quibbler> Kuukkeli^: in a terminal do:   sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[23:30] <surf> crdlb mga G400
[23:30] <Matr|X> W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://ftp.osuosl.org hardy/ Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.osuosl.org_pub_pculture.org_miro_linux_repositories_ubuntu_hardy_Packages)
[23:30] <Matr|X> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[23:30] <Rods_Tiger> and wireless doesn't work on it
[23:30] <syockit> S7UMPY: no logs/debug output at all?
[23:31] <crdlb> surf: matrox? I doubt anybody's working on 3d acceleration for that :/
[23:31] <gidna> Hi
[23:31] <epaphus> is there an option to make the filesystem encrypted upon the installation of ubuntu?
[23:31] <Crooper> the adobe-flashplugin works better
[23:31] <gidna> I have problem with sound in ubuntu 8.10
[23:31] <hector__> oh what about starting it from terminal?
[23:31] <bruce89> epaphus: in Jaunty yes
[23:31] <Crooper> it's version 10
[23:31] <S7UMPY> i dont get an error at all for the program. it just goes blank after it "looks like its loading"
[23:31] <gidna> with 8.04 all worked good
[23:31] <S7UMPY> syockit
[23:32] <g1er> Is there a way to do an ubuntu apt-get update using windows? (no internet on ubuntu atm)
[23:32] <hector__> I dont think there is
[23:32] <syockit> g1er: that'll involve using a virtual machine or colinux
[23:32] <surf> crdlb, i read that xorgs opensource drivers were already supporting accell ... this card has 16mb ram and is really fast
[23:33] <epaphus> bruce89, iam sorry... what is Jaunty?
[23:33] <g1er> ok. thanks
[23:33] <hector__> its the new release of ubuntu
[23:33] <hector__> 9.04 is jaunty
[23:33] <b1n42y> !ssh
[23:33] <surf> crdlb, i think i will disable DRI @xorg.config to fix that
[23:33] <hector__> 8.10 is ibex
[23:33] <_VIM_> its not out till next month (late april)
[23:33] <kitche> not a new release just the next version of ubuntu won't be a release until it's released
[23:33] <hector__> yeah but you can still test it
[23:33] <bruce89> hector__: Interpid
[23:33] <Rods_Tiger> will jaunty boot quick enough to be usable?
[23:33] <bruce89> hector__: Intrepid
[23:33] <_VIM_> hector__: this chan does not support Jaunty
[23:34] <bruce89> !jaunty
[23:34] <Kuukkeli^> will QEMU make windows fully usable?
[23:34] <Kuukkeli^> while ubuntu being open
[23:34] <gidna> What can I do?
[23:34] <quibbler> Kuukkeli^: in a terminal do:   sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin
[23:35] <hector__> Kuukkeli^ what are you trying to do in windows?
[23:35] <Crooper> Matr|X, check your sources.list file and comment out the duplicat lines
[23:35] <S7UMPY> do i need to install more dependencies in Synaptic Package Manager for synfig studios? to get it to run on 8.10/intrepid?
[23:35] <epaphus> bruce89, iam sorry... what is Jaunty?
[23:35] <syockit> Kuukkeli^: a vm cannot make an OS fully usable. there will always be catches somewhere, like hardware detection etc
[23:35] <Kuukkeli^> Play steams games because atis r600 open source 3d driver isn't here yet
[23:35] <bruce89> !jaunty > epaphus
[23:35] <hector__> S7UMPY I would install them.
[23:35] <S7UMPY> kk
[23:36] <bruce89> quibbler: what's non-free Java got to do with QEMU?
[23:36] <Kuukkeli^> Because with Proprietary driver, the models of HL2 just stretches all around and makes cute epilepsy
[23:36] <hector__> oh he asked another question
[23:36] <syockit> Kuukkeli^: then it's hardware related. high chance you can't get it working
[23:37] <bruce89> !who | hector__
[23:37] <Kuukkeli^> syockit, so my only chance is to reinstall ubuntu after installing windows xp to make a dualboot?
[23:37] <quibbler> bruce89: i'didn't know he was on QEMU
[23:37] <hector__> but im lazy
[23:37] <hector__> do i have to?
[23:37] <unop> Kuukkeli^, if ubuntu is already installed, no - all you need to do is reinstall grub.
[23:38] <bruce89> !who | hector__
[23:38] <Kuukkeli^> grub? What for?
[23:38] <bruce89> !tab > hector__
[23:38] <Scarra3> Hello
[23:38] <Nalf> Hello.
[23:38] <Kuukkeli^> for steam; Cedega didn't work, Wine didn't work.
[23:38] <syockit> Kuukkeli^: normally the reason winxp installation causes ubuntu to be unbootable is because grub is replaced
[23:38] <unop> Kuukkeli^, to have ubuntu load.
[23:39] <eseven73> does cinelerra work in intrepid? It's not in repos, and i cannot find a PPA for it
[23:39] <Kuukkeli^> no no no, i only have ubuntu at this moment
[23:39] <hector__> !bruce is that right?
[23:39] <Scarra3> Would ubuntu work ok on an  external hard drive that is connected to my computer threw usb?
[23:39] <syockit> Kuukkeli^: so after installing winxp, you can fix the grub through a livecd, or some grub utility on windows if there exists one
[23:39] <unop> Kuukkeli^, precisely.
[23:39] <kitche> Kuukkeli^: steam does work in wine look at the wine appdb it tells you how to install it
[23:39] <S7UMPY> ok so i installed all the dependencies for synfig studios, and i still get nothing.
[23:39] <bicho> good evening
[23:39] <S7UMPY> any ideas
[23:39] <syockit> kitche: the problem was with ati driver
[23:40] <Matr|X> thx:) u guys
[23:40] <Matr|X> u realy so kind
[23:40] <Kuukkeli^> kitche, the problem isn't steam, the problem is the games with my ATI driver which is r600!
[23:40] <AcidPuddle> 08.10: /usr/share/gdm/guest-session/guest-session-launch doesn't work - any ideas ?
[23:40] <Kuukkeli^> so no open source 3d engine for me
[23:40] <Scarra3> Who has installed ubuntu on an external hard drive before
[23:40] <IdentifyTarget> is sudo apt-get update the same thing as running update manager in Ubuntu?
[23:40] <bruce89> IdentifyTarget: yes
[23:40] <IdentifyTarget> cool
[23:40] <unop> IdentifyTarget, no.
[23:40] <kitche> Kuukkeli^: so install radeonhd driver, it works for 3d just not using native 3d but though mesa
[23:40] <syockit> Scarra3: um, me? but for booting on another laptop
[23:41] <unop> IdentifyTarget, update manager actually installs stuff too (i believe).
[23:41] <Scarra3> syockit: does it work ok threw usb?
[23:41] <IdentifyTarget> bruce89: I'm asking because I will be installing ubuntu minimal (no gui) and would like to keep the OS up to date
[23:41] <Kuukkeli^> kitche, i have RadeonHD driver installed, its propriety driver and the fps is 10 and the models are all stretched out and making cute epilepsy crapola
[23:41] <bruce89> IdentifyTarget: same goes for aptitude safe-upgrade
[23:41] <hector__> !bruce89 im lost now
[23:41] <unop> IdentifyTarget, it might be equivalent to.   aptitude update && aptitude safe-upgrade
[23:42] <kitche> Kuukkeli^: you could install fglrx which is the propriety driver radeonhd is the open source driver
[23:42] <hector__> how do i use tab?
[23:42] <syockit> Scarra3: my install was for a primary partition in another laptop, because it had no usb/cd booting capability
[23:42] <eseven73> ok obviously Cinelerra does not work in intrepid is there anything close to it? tried kdenlive, cant figure it out
[23:42] <bruce89> hector__: the tab key
[23:42] <unop> hector__,   hec<TAB>
[23:42] <Myrtti> hector__: type in the first few letters, then hit the tab key
[23:42] <M4d3L> hi. what is the best way to emule software only running on windows on ubuntu?
[23:42] <Kuukkeli^> kitche: only comes with 2d version
[23:42] <hector__> bruce89,
[23:42] <syockit> Scarra3: anyways, if you configured the usb drive's grub properly, it should work
[23:42] <Kuukkeli^> 3d version needs few more months.
[23:42] <Matr|X> sorry guys i installed apache2 ,, and when i type http://localhost / its working fine ...( its work ... if i want to access it from another computer , wht i can type http:/what
[23:42] <hector__> oh lol
[23:42] <hector__> i was holding it at the same time
[23:42] <epaphus> Can anybody tell me what the alternate disk is for??? is this to install ubuntu?
[23:43] <imaginativeone> how do I back up a dvd with k3b?
[23:43] <hector__> no wonder it wasn't working
[23:43] <kitche> Kuukkeli^: yes radeonhd does only come 2d but the fglrx should have 3d support in it since it's the propiertory driver
[23:43] <Nalf> Matr|X: go to http://whatismyip.com and type in http://thenumberyougetonthatsite.
[23:43] <syockit> M4d3L: emulate? wine tries best to run windows apps
[23:43] <bruce89> !emule
[23:43] <_VIM_> !info emule
[23:43] <M4d3L> syockit: yeah. emulate sorry
[23:43] <_VIM_> :/
[23:43] <Myrtti> !info amule
[23:44] <surf> crdlb, disabling DRI works, no crashes anymore 16Mb ram arent really worth the try
[23:44] <hector__> bruce89, thanks i finally got it
[23:44] <syockit> just as i thought someone would misunderstand ..
[23:44] <Kuukkeli^> kitche: i think i have it atm, and because of that; my videos are all blinking and 10fps Hl2 with stretchy models ft. Epilepsy
[23:44] <bruce89> hector__: indeed you gave
[23:44] <epaphus> Can anybody tell me what the alternate disk is for??? is this to install ubuntu?
[23:44] <kitche> Kuukkeli^: so you have fglrx since you should have more then 10fps if you do
[23:44] <Sertse> epaphus:  alternative cd allows you to install ubuntu in a console (non graphical) environment.  Useful in older computer. Alternate CD also allows you to tune what you want installed
[23:44] <kitche> Kuukkeli^: unless it's not installed correctly
[23:44] <M4d3L> so wine is the best apps I can find?
[23:44] <bruce89> !alternate > epaphus
[23:44] <Kuukkeli^> okay i'll try to install it again
[23:45] <Myrtti> epaphus: yes, it's for installing ubuntu as well. it gives few more options for the installation and in general works with all the graphics cards
[23:45] <bruce89> oops, I wanted pipe, not >
[23:45] <Kuukkeli^> kitche: could you give me some link or command for it?
[23:45] <_VIM_> Sertse: im lagging, or you type 500 wpm :P
[23:45] <syockit> M4d3L: if you want a real emulator, virtual machines are another solution. they're slower
[23:45] <lucax> hey guys im on a kinda old notebook and ubuntu when i try to install it i goes all good until it try to load the graphical interface, can it be modify something from grub so i use like non special drivers or something like that... im tryin to install it...
[23:45] <M4d3L> I want to install photoshop
[23:45] <kitche> !ati | Kuukkeli^
[23:46] <kitche> Kuukkeli^: sometimes you have to mess with Ati cards for them to work correctly hence why I stay away from them
[23:46] <hector__> M4d3L, why don't you give gimp a shot?
[23:46] <bruce89> !photoshop | M4d3L
[23:46] <Sertse> hehehe, I'm no crazy typist.
[23:46] <koshari> \syockit you cannot compare VMs and emulators, they are different things and acheive different objectives
[23:46] <_dbd_l12> M4d3L: look for the instructions in the wine appdb
[23:46] <M4d3L> am very familiar with it. I dont have time to learn gimp.
[23:46] <syockit> M4d3L: if you have windows, you can finetune wine to reuse windows dll instead of it's built-in wrappers
[23:46] <imaginativeone> how do I back up a dvd with k3b?
[23:46] <bruce89> M4d3L: not much learning required
[23:46] <bruce89> imaginativeone: you don't
[23:47] <hector__> M4d3L, its not that hard to use.
[23:47] <grndslm> imaginativeone: k9copy
[23:47] <syockit> M4d3L: sometimes the apps come bundled with the required dll too
[23:47] <hector__> M4d3L, you can even use gimpshop it has about the same interface photshop has
[23:47] <Gerinych> is there any way to install grub_gfxboot on a grub-only partition?
[23:47] <happy_> hey, anyone know how to read the bonnie test outputs, http://paste.linuxassist.net/213570
[23:47] <webPragmatist> which of the windows emulators is most popular? vbox/vmware ?
[23:48] <webPragmatist> or windows booters i guess
[23:48] <M4d3L> bruce89: I will learn it with the time but now I must produce and I know photoshop.
[23:48] <Matr|X> im static network
[23:48] <Kuukkeli^> oh god im lost
[23:48] <Kuukkeli^> Enable accelerated the accelerated ATI graphics driver in the restricted-manager
[23:48] <Kuukkeli^> Where do i do that?
[23:48] <grrlfawkes> hrm, i just upgraded to 8.10 and my computer's been turning off randomly
[23:48] <M4d3L> I want to complete switch to ubuntu. I have format completly my disk to not go again on the dark side :P
[23:48] <bruce89> M4d3L: it'd be less painful to just use Windwos
[23:49] <bruce89> oh
[23:49] <_VIM_> !yay | M4d3L
[23:49] <hector__> M4d3L, then why don't you avoid photoshop?
[23:49] <_Whipper__> bruce89, : now you are talking nonsense
[23:49] <Kuukkeli^> where is the restricted manager?
[23:49] <bruce89> _Whipper__: in what way?
[23:49] <_dbd_l12> M4d3L: in general you can find information concerning wine compatibility here: e.g. http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=2631
[23:50] <_VIM_> photoshop cs2 works in wine, not sure bout cs3 though or cs4
[23:50] <wendy_> hi all, what program can i use to retrieve deleted files?
[23:50] <_Whipper__> bruce89, : "just use win.. in my a**.. there tons of graph software out there
[23:50] <hector__> Kuukkeli^, what version of ubuntu are you using?
[23:50] <M4d3L> hector__: like I said. I actually know photoshop, I have try gimp but I have lot of problem with psd on gimp. all my layer are not editable.
[23:50] <bruce89> _Whipper__: I meant that if you want to use photoshop, they should use it in Windows
[23:51] <Kuukkeli^> hector: 8.1
[23:51] <Kuukkeli^> well 8.10
[23:51] <bruce89> _Whipper__: I'm a pragmatic
[23:51] <syockit> M4d3L: right, if you're already used to photoshop, better off finding out how to get photoshop running
[23:51] <_Whipper__> M4d3L, : have u tried anything else besides gimp?
[23:51] <Kuukkeli^> wheres the restricted manager on 8.10
[23:51] <bruce89> !ohmy | _Whipper__
[23:51] <syockit> M4d3L: i advise against using vm for that
[23:51] <Gartral2> i cant get sound out of rythmbox
[23:51] <hector__> Kuukkeli^, the thing your looking at is at System>Administration>Hardware Drivers
[23:52] <M4d3L> _Whipper__: heu I have play 2 hour with it but not more.
[23:52] <hector__> Kuukkeli^, do you see it?
[23:52] <Kuukkeli^> hector__: Yep
[23:52] <_Whipper__> bruce89, : sorry if i hurt your feelings :) didnt mean no harm..
[23:52] <Kuukkeli^> currently activated :P
[23:52] <hector__> Kuukkeli^, is that what you were looking for?
[23:53] <Kuukkeli^> Maybe, thanks
[23:53] <hector__> No problem
[23:53] <bruce89> _Whipper__: that's fine, but I don't the Ubuntu-or-bust attitude some people have
[23:53] <Sertse> what's the motivation to sit in on irc and answer endless streams of tech Q's? Appreciate it but curious why we do it
[23:53] <Gartral2> rythmbox won't play anything and it just hung when i attached my dap
[23:53] <demy> Does any one knows how to boot windows from a extended NTFS partition in ubuntu?
[23:53] <Myrtti> Sertse: perhaps you could analyze that in #ubuntu-offtopic?
[23:53] <bruce89> Sertse: boredom
[23:53] <_Whipper__> bruce89, : i dont have that attit. just against the "big-bad"
[23:54] <hector__> Sertse, I do it because im really bored
[23:54] <danbhfive_jaunty> demy: its better to put windows on the first partition
[23:54] <_dbd_l12> Sertse: can't sleep
[23:54] <bruce89> _Whipper__: well, I also don't like the Windows-is-evil one
[23:54] <Sertse> #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:54] <Sertse> #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:54] <syockit> demy: grub doesn't work?
[23:54] <_VIM_> it's /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:54] <_Whipper__> Sertse, : true..
[23:54] <bruce89> demy: windows has to be on the primary partition AFAIK
[23:54] <Gartral2> rythmbox sucks
[23:54] <Sertse> typo :P
[23:55] <unop> windows can be on any partition
[23:55] <demy>  FAT can boot why NTFS cannot ?
[23:55] <_VIM_> !players | Gartral2 well there's more than rythmbox...
[23:55] <Melow01> Ubuntu noob here... am I in the correct IRC chat channel or should I move elsewhere?
[23:55] <quibbler> !grub | demy
[23:55] <_dbd_l12> Gartral2: i like gmusicbrowser
[23:55] <demy> I use ghost to install windows on a NTFS partion
[23:55] <b4|hraban> hi, I installed xubuntu 8.10 from netinstall recently, and I chose the US int with Alt Gr dead keys keboard layout
[23:55] <hector__> Melow01, what are you wanting?
[23:56] <b4|hraban> works great, except for the " sign:
[23:56] <rww> Melow01: This is the Ubuntu technical support channel :)
[23:56] <Melow01> I'm doing the linuxcommand.org tutorial
[23:56] <b4|hraban> alt-gr + shift + " followed by e just puts out e
[23:56] <Gartral2> i have most of those players, but i want rythmbox to work...
[23:56] <_Whipper__> theres also Lilo, and other boot-managers out there..
[23:56] <Melow01> trying to find the .bash_profile
[23:56] <_VIM_> its hidden
[23:56] <b4|hraban> whereas for the other accents, it puts the accent on the letter following (as one would expect from a dead key)
[23:56] <Kuukkeli^> im doomed..
[23:56] <Melow01> can't find it in the home
[23:56] <Kuukkeli^> sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` sudo insmod /lib/modules/`uname -r`/volatile/fglrx.ko
[23:57] <Melow01> ls -la
[23:57] <Kuukkeli^> could someone help me with those 2 commands?
[23:57] <bruce89> Melow01: hidden files have a '.' at the start
[23:57] <Melow01> true
[23:57] <Melow01> I read that in the tutorial
[23:57] <bruce89> Melow01: list files, long mode, all files
[23:57] <uilc4> ciao
[23:57] <Melow01> ls -la (should show it correct?)
[23:57] <uilc4> !list
[23:57] <bruce89> Melow01: the 'a' shows hidden files
[23:57] <rww> Melow01: yes.
[23:57] <Raije> hrmm, anyone here have any links to a site that can help me get my headphones working? i'm running a laptop, for some reason when I plug them in, they get no sound and the music continues to play out the speakers..
[23:57] <Melow01> true
[23:58] <m4v3r1c> my friend just bought a laptop and doesnt know what wireless card he has, he just knows it doesnt work. is there an easy way to find out what wireless card you have from inside ubuntu?
[23:58] <_VIM_> press ctrl + h  in a filemanager works too  Melow01
[23:58] <_dbd_l12> Melow01: ls -al ~/.bash_profile
[23:58] <Sylphid> m4v3r1c, lspci
[23:58] <Melow01> I can see the .bashrc file
[23:58] <rww> Melow01: oh, I don't think Ubuntu uses .bash_profile by default any more. Try .bashrc
[23:58] <m4v3r1c> just type that into terminal?
[23:58] <Sylphid> m4v3r1c, yup
[23:58] <kitche> m4v3r1c: not really if ubuntu does not recogize it
[23:58] <_VIM_> Melow01:  rww is correct
[23:58] <rww> Melow01: I don't have one, anyway :/
[23:58] <hector__> Raije, have you tried using that sound control thing?
[23:58] <Melow01> oh... has .bashrc replaced .bash_profile?
[23:58] <m4v3r1c> awseome, thanks sylphid, ill give it a try
[23:59] <kitche> Melow01: no they each do different things
[23:59] <Raije> hector__, if your refering to kmix, yes I have, I can't seem to get it working with the headphones.
[23:59] <Nalf> I am installing ubuntu via wubi, but my installer keeps hanging. How would I acquire install logs so that someone may help me further diagnose the issue>?
[23:59] <rww> kitche: what's the difference?
[23:59] <Dante123> !patience
[23:59] <hector__> Raije, are you using KUbuntu?
[23:59] <Melow01> ok
[23:59] <Melow01> thanks people
[23:59] <Raije> hector__, I'm using something based on ubuntu but it is a basic ubuntu and i have kmix
[23:59] <kitche> rww: one is used for a login shell and the other is used for something else been a while sicne I used bash so I forgot which is which