| shtylman | Riddell: noted, will do | 00:05 |
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| Riddell | shtylman: any plans to make the partition bars behave the same as the GTK version? | 00:13 |
| shtylman | Riddell: with regard to? placement? | 00:22 |
| nixternal | XDG compliancy...yay, I pray for that daily :) | 00:40 |
| * ScottK thought you prayed to some emacs related diety? | 00:42 | |
| nixternal | not any more | 00:42 |
| ScottK | Oh? What happened? Discovered the joy of vim? | 00:43 |
| nixternal | yup :) | 00:43 |
| dtchen | nixternal has fallen to the dark side | 00:43 |
| nixternal | still getting used to vim in some aspects, but thus far I am just as efficient with it than I was in emacs | 00:43 |
| nixternal | i find myself wanting to go back to emacs from time to time, but when I try, I realize I have forgotten so much that it would take forever to get back into shape | 00:44 |
| dtchen | i would have recommended vile as transition | 00:44 |
| nixternal | heh, been there done that | 00:44 |
| dtchen | i find i mostly use the vi subset, so vim-tiny's sufficient | 00:45 |
| nixternal | i use vim, with all of the little plugins and what not | 00:45 |
| ScottK | nixternal: To me XDG means a bunch of directories in $HOME I don't care to have. | 00:46 |
| nixternal | though for coding, I am still madly involved with Eclipse, which I absolutely love | 00:46 |
| dtchen | eclipse is pretty nice | 00:46 |
| * ScottK wonders who should update the package .... | 00:46 | |
| nixternal | ScottK: that is just XDG_HOME, there are other things involved with XDG that clean all of that up | 00:46 |
| dtchen | ScottK: find someone to handle pulseaudio, and i'll do it. | 00:46 |
| nixternal | hehe | 00:46 |
| dtchen | doing sound & eclipse is a bit far beyond madness | 00:46 |
| * ScottK wasn't considering you for the honor. | 00:47 | |
| nixternal | dtchen: I have been getting a popping noice through my speakers in jaunty..I don't know if it is bad line noise or not..has anyone else complained of something similar? | 00:47 |
| ScottK | It's clear nixternal isn't busy doing other Ubuntu stuff. | 00:47 |
| nixternal | ya, eclipse packaging is mad | 00:47 |
| nixternal | I am busy with other ubuntu stuff | 00:47 |
| dtchen | nixternal: yes - is only the popping audible, or is the popping just in the background? | 00:47 |
| ScottK | nixternal: What you do is go to #ubuntu-motu and find a MOTU wannbe and offer to help them. Upload it with their name in debian/changelog and then they TIL. | 00:48 |
| nixternal | in the background...when no sound is playing I hear it from time-to-time..not all of the time | 00:48 |
| dtchen | nixternal: ah, that's the hw-ptr issue i fixed | 00:48 |
| nixternal | did you fix it recently? | 00:48 |
| nixternal | because I am sitting here and have not heard it tonight and I did an update earlier | 00:48 |
| dtchen | yes, in linux. i'm test-building ATM. | 00:49 |
| nixternal | I am sure I heard it this morning | 00:49 |
| dtchen | the hw-ptr is precisely that - it's pretty nondeterministic, since it depends on how the bios initialises the codec. | 00:49 |
| nixternal | have my sound up, listening for it to happen | 00:49 |
| dtchen | so it can "randomly" (dis)appear | 00:49 |
| nixternal | gotcha | 00:50 |
| shtylman | bug 317781 is a facinating read | 00:51 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 317781 in linux "Ext4 data loss" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/317781 | 00:51 |
| ScottK | yep. | 00:57 |
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| ScottK | So I was trying to figure out why my kids Intrepid Kubuntu desktop (KDE 4.1.4) has gvfs ... | 03:37 |
| ScottK | phonon-backend-gstreamer Depends gstreamer0.10-plugins-base and gstreamer0.10-plugins-base Recommends gvfs | 03:37 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Can we arrange to not pull in gvfs do you think? | 03:38 |
| ScottK | I'm now a huge fan of aptitude why BTW. | 03:38 |
| nhandler | ScottK: I never knew about aptitude why before. Thanks a lot | 03:41 |
| ScottK | You're welcome. | 03:41 |
| ScottK | I'm not generally an aptitude fan, but I like that. | 03:41 |
| freeflying | nhandler: arounds? | 04:12 |
| === ScottK changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Next Kubuntu Meeting Tuesday March 17 2009 at 17:00 UTC | Main Frozen for Alpha-6 | 8.04.2 Released! | Feature Freeze in effect - Fix bugs | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo | ||
| * a|wen goes updating the meeting times in the wiki + top-banner | 04:37 | |
| a|wen | the "hugday" entry in our top-banner is now "automagically" updated when the bugsquad updates their banner :) | 06:46 |
| a|wen | and same for the REVU ... so now we only have to update our own stuff :) | 08:27 |
| ScottK | It seems http://websvn.kde.org/?view=rev&revision=938370 would be good for backporting .... | 10:38 |
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| yao_ziyuan | i'm with the latest kubuntu jaunty. when i drop a file from QuickAccess to Trashcan, the file stay over Trashcan until i click it. then it says, 'file can't be trashed as it is already deleted'. is anyone with the same problem or am i alone? | 11:03 |
| yao_ziyuan | back in kubuntu intrepid, there is no such a problem. | 11:03 |
| yao_ziyuan | file drag-drop between dolphin and dolphin is fine. | 11:04 |
| ghostcube | anyone want to see fast pc :O | 12:30 |
| ghostcube | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96dWOEa4Djs | 12:30 |
| ghostcube | wth | 12:30 |
| ghostcube | 2096 gb/s data transfer rate | 12:30 |
| ghostcube | :| | 12:31 |
| Riddell | these DVDs take ages to install | 13:08 |
| davmor2 | Riddell: That's why I hate doing them more than expert installs | 13:13 |
| jussi01 | hehe, dont ask me why, but Riddells comment just made me think of "These Romans are crazy!" :P | 13:20 |
| Sput | why? | 13:24 |
| * jussi01 slaps Sput | 13:25 | |
| jussi01 | nasty! | 13:25 |
| Sput | hrhr | 13:25 |
| Sput | you basically asked for it! | 13:26 |
| jussi01 | can anyone get the itv player working? Ive installed moonlight, but it still doesnt work :/ | 13:26 |
| jussi01 | oh never mind... seems there is a reason why :( http://www.linuxformat.co.uk/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=9613 | 13:29 |
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| maco | whoever said in here that kmail is more stable when you use dimap instead of imap was right. but wow dimap is a slow sync | 16:32 |
| a|wen | maco: it is pretty slow, yeah ... but rather slow than unstable | 16:43 |
| * JontheEchidna cowers behind pop3 | 16:45 | |
| a|wen | hehe | 16:51 |
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| Riddell | the kpackagekit update notification is pretty rubbish, it disappears after a second with nothing in the systray to click on | 17:16 |
| jussi01 | theres a notification? o.O | 17:18 |
| maco | Riddell: i mentioned that last week. cant remember the response, something along the lines of "can't be done" | 17:19 |
| maco | jussi01: yes itll popup "there are 163 updates available" with "install now" "install later" and "shut up" buttons | 17:19 |
| maco | if you dont click anything, it just disappears after a second and then you have to know what to look for in kicker to find it again | 17:20 |
| jussi01 | curious... dont think Ive ever seen it... | 17:20 |
| Riddell | but there's nothing in the panel to click | 17:21 |
| Riddell | sounds like we should disable it and go back to our old update notifier | 17:21 |
| JontheEchidna | Really the notification should be persistent, but there's a bug in the plasma notifications that doesn't let things be persistent | 17:30 |
| Riddell | right | 17:32 |
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| Quintasan | Hmm, anyone noticed that the binary clock plasmoid has problems with date? After each plasma restart it has 00:00 hour set and no date | 18:16 |
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| ScottK | Riddell: When agiteau first showed up and I asked about helping out with some notifications bugfixing in the meantime for Jaunty that was the first one I was thinking of. | 18:41 |
| ScottK | But I generally agree. We either need to fix it pretty quick or switch back. | 18:42 |
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| VaSavoir | hello, is there a place to discuss about software developpement under ubuntu ? | 20:02 |
| Riddell | VaSavoir: no I'm afraid not especially but there are channels for individual projects. KDE would be #kde-devel | 20:05 |
| VaSavoir | riddell: ok, thank, but i try to find info on kevent and so on, i try to detect disk partition change and mount unmont in reeltime | 20:09 |
| Riddell | hello | 20:10 |
| Riddell | i am cool | 20:10 |
| Riddell | ahem, cats | 20:11 |
| ScottK | The cat says it's cool? | 20:11 |
| Riddell | VaSavoir: in KDE solid does that. lower down hal will do that. kevent I don't know about, you'd need to investigate linux docs | 20:11 |
| VaSavoir | ok, thank for all :-) | 20:12 |
| davmor2 | Riddell: Let the friggin cat in if it's cool you evil swine ;) | 20:20 |
| davmor2 | Riddell: prepare for shipping to end user has no icon in kubuntu menu but has on the desktop | 20:34 |
| davmor2 | Why is there no Ubuntu bug search for available as a search engine ? | 21:00 |
| ScottK | davmor2: I just use Google anyway. It's faster. | 21:15 |
| davmor2 | scottK: probably sadly true but it would surely promote another aspect of the *buntu family :) | 21:16 |
| ScottK | davmor2: I tend to view it more as a separate Canonical product that we use. | 21:16 |
| davmor2 | ScottK: yes I suppose :) | 21:17 |
| davmor2 | I was only enquiring anyway not a finger point :) | 21:17 |
| ScottK | Of course if they open source it, make it not slow, and make the U/I better for navigation than the url history in my browser, then I might consider different. | 21:18 |
| davmor2 | :D | 21:20 |
| dtchen | JontheEchidna: sound drivers should be triaged to affect `linux', please. thanks. | 22:24 |
| dtchen | *not* `alsa-driver' | 22:24 |
| JontheEchidna | oh, ok | 22:24 |
| JontheEchidna | probably still a better place than kdebase :P | 22:25 |
| dtchen | yes, of course | 22:25 |
| * JontheEchidna doesn't get people who bump every Kubuntu bug without a package to kdebase | 22:25 | |
| dtchen | i could say the same thing about alsa-driver, alsa-lib, pulseaudio, ... | 22:25 |
| JontheEchidna | heh | 22:26 |
| lex79 | JontheEchidna: can you sponsor this https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/341986 ? | 22:38 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 341986 in ubuntu "kblogger menu entry in wrong place (Lost & Found)" [Undecided,New] | 22:38 |
| * JontheEchidna takes a look | 22:38 | |
| lex79 | thx | 22:38 |
| JontheEchidna | lex79: just curious, where'd the new .desktop file come from? | 22:39 |
| * JontheEchidna sees some other changes not related to category | 22:39 | |
| JontheEchidna | or are they just general XDG spec compliance changes you did? | 22:40 |
| lex79 | I added Categories=Qt;KDE;Network; | 22:40 |
| lex79 | is wrong? | 22:40 |
| JontheEchidna | Nah, that's right | 22:40 |
| lex79 | with a quilt patch | 22:40 |
| JontheEchidna | But the patch also says that this line got lost: Encoding=UTF-8 | 22:41 |
| lex79 | I convalidate with desktop-file-validate | 22:41 |
| lex79 | yes | 22:41 |
| lex79 | Encoding=UTF-8 is deprecated | 22:41 |
| JontheEchidna | Ah, ok | 22:41 |
| lex79 | :) | 22:41 |
| JontheEchidna | Just checking ;-) | 22:41 |
| lex79 | and also terminal=0 is deprecated | 22:41 |
| lex79 | now Terminal is boolean | 22:41 |
| JontheEchidna | Cool, so these are just general XDG compliance fixes | 22:41 |
| lex79 | I have to add in changelog JontheEchidna? | 22:42 |
| JontheEchidna | It would be nice | 22:42 |
| lex79 | ok | 22:42 |
| lex79 | JontheEchidna: now? https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/341986 | 22:53 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 341986 in ubuntu "kblogger menu entry in wrong place (Lost & Found)" [Undecided,New] | 22:53 |
| JontheEchidna | Great! | 22:54 |
| lex79 | ok | 22:54 |
| JontheEchidna | I would recommend giving upstream the patch too | 22:54 |
| JontheEchidna | etc | 22:54 |
| lex79 | I will do it | 22:55 |
| JontheEchidna | :) | 22:55 |
| JontheEchidna | brb, then I will sponsor | 22:57 |
| lex79 | thanks, I sent a patch to upstream :) | 22:58 |
| JontheEchidna | Ok, testbuilding | 23:01 |
| JontheEchidna | (just to be safe ;-) | 23:02 |
| lex79 | uhhhhm | 23:02 |
| lex79 | :) | 23:02 |
| * ScottK would get grumpy if he found out JontheEchidna wasn't test building. | 23:03 | |
| JontheEchidna | Don't worry, you've set a good example :) | 23:03 |
| JontheEchidna | I testbuild all uploads I sponsor | 23:04 |
| JontheEchidna | and mine of course :P | 23:04 |
| JontheEchidna | Oh, reenabling universe in my pbuilder would probably help, lol | 23:05 |
| lex79 | I think yes :) | 23:06 |
| lex79 | ScottK: ack for this? https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/k9copy/+bug/339688 :( | 23:08 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 339688 in k9copy "FFE for k9copy 2.20" [Undecided,New] | 23:08 |
| === ScottK changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Next Kubuntu Meeting Tuesday March 17 2009 at 17:00 UTC | Jaunty Alpha-6 Released! | 8.04.2 Released! | Feature Freeze in effect - Fix bugs | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo | ||
| ScottK | Someone please make a release announcement and send it to kubuntu-devel ..... | 23:09 |
| ScottK | lex79: Minus points for edge urls. | 23:09 |
| ScottK | lex79: Give it it's first ack though? | 23:10 |
| ScottK | lex79: Also next time test before you ask for the FFe. | 23:10 |
| JontheEchidna | lex79: Out of curiosity, is there any reason kblogger depends on a kde3 version of libkipi? | 23:11 |
| lex79 | ok :) | 23:11 |
| lex79 | I don't know JontheEchidna | 23:11 |
| JontheEchidna | hmm, I will have to investigate that then | 23:11 |
| JontheEchidna | Not your fault of course | 23:12 |
| ScottK | JontheEchidna: Sponsor lesson #1: It's always the sponsoree's fault. | 23:13 |
| lex79 | :D | 23:13 |
| JontheEchidna | So basically it doesn't matter who introduced the bug, it's also partly the fault of everybody who didn't notice it? | 23:14 |
| lex79 | Last in changelog for me :P | 23:15 |
| JontheEchidna | It looks like kblogger's cmake doesn't check for kipi either | 23:16 |
| ScottK | JontheEchidna: See rule #1. | 23:16 |
| JontheEchidna | lex79: if you could remove the libkipi0-dev build-depend, that'd be great. Kipi support is still on the todo list for the KDE4 version | 23:22 |
| lex79 | JontheEchidna: I have to remove or change in libkipi6-dev ? | 23:23 |
| ScottK | Remove | 23:24 |
| JontheEchidna | Yeah | 23:26 |
| lex79 | JontheEchidna: done | 23:33 |
| JontheEchidna | Thx | 23:34 |
| lex79 | me too | 23:35 |
| jjesse | quick question i just built a jaunty vm and all i have is the login background (sorry not more preicse) even after i login, no applets, no kickoff, nothing, also no crash? | 23:59 |
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