[00:05] Riddell: noted, will do [00:13] shtylman: any plans to make the partition bars behave the same as the GTK version? [00:22] Riddell: with regard to? placement? [00:40] XDG compliancy...yay, I pray for that daily :) [00:42] * ScottK thought you prayed to some emacs related diety? [00:42] not any more [00:43] Oh? What happened? Discovered the joy of vim? [00:43] yup :) [00:43] nixternal has fallen to the dark side [00:43] still getting used to vim in some aspects, but thus far I am just as efficient with it than I was in emacs [00:44] i find myself wanting to go back to emacs from time to time, but when I try, I realize I have forgotten so much that it would take forever to get back into shape [00:44] i would have recommended vile as transition [00:44] heh, been there done that [00:45] i find i mostly use the vi subset, so vim-tiny's sufficient [00:45] i use vim, with all of the little plugins and what not [00:46] nixternal: To me XDG means a bunch of directories in $HOME I don't care to have. [00:46] though for coding, I am still madly involved with Eclipse, which I absolutely love [00:46] eclipse is pretty nice [00:46] * ScottK wonders who should update the package .... [00:46] ScottK: that is just XDG_HOME, there are other things involved with XDG that clean all of that up [00:46] ScottK: find someone to handle pulseaudio, and i'll do it. [00:46] hehe [00:46] doing sound & eclipse is a bit far beyond madness [00:47] * ScottK wasn't considering you for the honor. [00:47] dtchen: I have been getting a popping noice through my speakers in jaunty..I don't know if it is bad line noise or not..has anyone else complained of something similar? [00:47] It's clear nixternal isn't busy doing other Ubuntu stuff. [00:47] ya, eclipse packaging is mad [00:47] I am busy with other ubuntu stuff [00:47] nixternal: yes - is only the popping audible, or is the popping just in the background? [00:48] nixternal: What you do is go to #ubuntu-motu and find a MOTU wannbe and offer to help them. Upload it with their name in debian/changelog and then they TIL. [00:48] in the background...when no sound is playing I hear it from time-to-time..not all of the time [00:48] nixternal: ah, that's the hw-ptr issue i fixed [00:48] did you fix it recently? [00:48] because I am sitting here and have not heard it tonight and I did an update earlier [00:49] yes, in linux. i'm test-building ATM. [00:49] I am sure I heard it this morning [00:49] the hw-ptr is precisely that - it's pretty nondeterministic, since it depends on how the bios initialises the codec. [00:49] have my sound up, listening for it to happen [00:49] so it can "randomly" (dis)appear [00:50] gotcha [00:51] bug 317781 is a facinating read [00:51] Launchpad bug 317781 in linux "Ext4 data loss" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/317781 [00:57] yep. === kubotu_ is now known as kubotu === eKZDskZS is now known as ljl === ljl is now known as LjL [03:37] So I was trying to figure out why my kids Intrepid Kubuntu desktop (KDE 4.1.4) has gvfs ... [03:37] phonon-backend-gstreamer Depends gstreamer0.10-plugins-base and gstreamer0.10-plugins-base Recommends gvfs [03:38] Riddell: Can we arrange to not pull in gvfs do you think? [03:38] I'm now a huge fan of aptitude why BTW. [03:41] ScottK: I never knew about aptitude why before. Thanks a lot [03:41] You're welcome. [03:41] I'm not generally an aptitude fan, but I like that. [04:12] nhandler: arounds? === ScottK changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Next Kubuntu Meeting Tuesday March 17 2009 at 17:00 UTC | Main Frozen for Alpha-6 | 8.04.2 Released! | Feature Freeze in effect - Fix bugs | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo [04:37] * a|wen goes updating the meeting times in the wiki + top-banner [06:46] the "hugday" entry in our top-banner is now "automagically" updated when the bugsquad updates their banner :) [08:27] and same for the REVU ... so now we only have to update our own stuff :) [10:38] It seems http://websvn.kde.org/?view=rev&revision=938370 would be good for backporting .... === EqS is now known as EgS [11:03] i'm with the latest kubuntu jaunty. when i drop a file from QuickAccess to Trashcan, the file stay over Trashcan until i click it. then it says, 'file can't be trashed as it is already deleted'. is anyone with the same problem or am i alone? [11:03] back in kubuntu intrepid, there is no such a problem. [11:04] file drag-drop between dolphin and dolphin is fine. [12:30] anyone want to see fast pc :O [12:30] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96dWOEa4Djs [12:30] wth [12:30] 2096 gb/s data transfer rate [12:31] :| [13:08] these DVDs take ages to install [13:13] Riddell: That's why I hate doing them more than expert installs [13:20] hehe, dont ask me why, but Riddells comment just made me think of "These Romans are crazy!" :P [13:24] why? [13:25] * jussi01 slaps Sput [13:25] nasty! [13:25] hrhr [13:26] you basically asked for it! [13:26] can anyone get the itv player working? Ive installed moonlight, but it still doesnt work :/ [13:29] oh never mind... seems there is a reason why :( http://www.linuxformat.co.uk/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=9613 === sayakb_ is now known as sayakb === doc___ is now known as doc_afk === doc_afk is now known as doc___ === sayakb_ is now known as sayakb [16:32] whoever said in here that kmail is more stable when you use dimap instead of imap was right. but wow dimap is a slow sync [16:43] maco: it is pretty slow, yeah ... but rather slow than unstable [16:45] * JontheEchidna cowers behind pop3 [16:51] hehe === maco_ is now known as maco [17:16] the kpackagekit update notification is pretty rubbish, it disappears after a second with nothing in the systray to click on [17:18] theres a notification? o.O [17:19] Riddell: i mentioned that last week. cant remember the response, something along the lines of "can't be done" [17:19] jussi01: yes itll popup "there are 163 updates available" with "install now" "install later" and "shut up" buttons [17:20] if you dont click anything, it just disappears after a second and then you have to know what to look for in kicker to find it again [17:20] curious... dont think Ive ever seen it... [17:21] but there's nothing in the panel to click [17:21] sounds like we should disable it and go back to our old update notifier [17:30] Really the notification should be persistent, but there's a bug in the plasma notifications that doesn't let things be persistent [17:32] right === doc___ is now known as doc-afk [18:16] Hmm, anyone noticed that the binary clock plasmoid has problems with date? After each plasma restart it has 00:00 hour set and no date === blizzzek is now known as blizzz [18:41] Riddell: When agiteau first showed up and I asked about helping out with some notifications bugfixing in the meantime for Jaunty that was the first one I was thinking of. [18:42] But I generally agree. We either need to fix it pretty quick or switch back. === rickspencer3 is now known as rickspencer3-afk === doc-afk is now known as doc___ [20:02] hello, is there a place to discuss about software developpement under ubuntu ? [20:05] VaSavoir: no I'm afraid not especially but there are channels for individual projects. KDE would be #kde-devel [20:09] riddell: ok, thank, but i try to find info on kevent and so on, i try to detect disk partition change and mount unmont in reeltime [20:10] hello [20:10] i am cool [20:11] ahem, cats [20:11] The cat says it's cool? [20:11] VaSavoir: in KDE solid does that. lower down hal will do that. kevent I don't know about, you'd need to investigate linux docs [20:12] ok, thank for all :-) [20:20] Riddell: Let the friggin cat in if it's cool you evil swine ;) [20:34] Riddell: prepare for shipping to end user has no icon in kubuntu menu but has on the desktop [21:00] Why is there no Ubuntu bug search for available as a search engine ? [21:15] davmor2: I just use Google anyway. It's faster. [21:16] scottK: probably sadly true but it would surely promote another aspect of the *buntu family :) [21:16] davmor2: I tend to view it more as a separate Canonical product that we use. [21:17] ScottK: yes I suppose :) [21:17] I was only enquiring anyway not a finger point :) [21:18] Of course if they open source it, make it not slow, and make the U/I better for navigation than the url history in my browser, then I might consider different. [21:20] :D [22:24] JontheEchidna: sound drivers should be triaged to affect `linux', please. thanks. [22:24] *not* `alsa-driver' [22:24] oh, ok [22:25] probably still a better place than kdebase :P [22:25] yes, of course [22:25] * JontheEchidna doesn't get people who bump every Kubuntu bug without a package to kdebase [22:25] i could say the same thing about alsa-driver, alsa-lib, pulseaudio, ... [22:26] heh [22:38] JontheEchidna: can you sponsor this https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/341986 ? [22:38] Ubuntu bug 341986 in ubuntu "kblogger menu entry in wrong place (Lost & Found)" [Undecided,New] [22:38] * JontheEchidna takes a look [22:38] thx [22:39] lex79: just curious, where'd the new .desktop file come from? [22:39] * JontheEchidna sees some other changes not related to category [22:40] or are they just general XDG spec compliance changes you did? [22:40] I added Categories=Qt;KDE;Network; [22:40] is wrong? [22:40] Nah, that's right [22:40] with a quilt patch [22:41] But the patch also says that this line got lost: Encoding=UTF-8 [22:41] I convalidate with desktop-file-validate [22:41] yes [22:41] Encoding=UTF-8 is deprecated [22:41] Ah, ok [22:41] :) [22:41] Just checking ;-) [22:41] and also terminal=0 is deprecated [22:41] now Terminal is boolean [22:41] Cool, so these are just general XDG compliance fixes [22:42] I have to add in changelog JontheEchidna? [22:42] It would be nice [22:42] ok [22:53] JontheEchidna: now? https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/341986 [22:53] Ubuntu bug 341986 in ubuntu "kblogger menu entry in wrong place (Lost & Found)" [Undecided,New] [22:54] Great! [22:54] ok [22:54] I would recommend giving upstream the patch too [22:54] etc [22:55] I will do it [22:55] :) [22:57] brb, then I will sponsor [22:58] thanks, I sent a patch to upstream :) [23:01] Ok, testbuilding [23:02] (just to be safe ;-) [23:02] uhhhhm [23:02] :) [23:03] * ScottK would get grumpy if he found out JontheEchidna wasn't test building. [23:03] Don't worry, you've set a good example :) [23:04] I testbuild all uploads I sponsor [23:04] and mine of course :P [23:05] Oh, reenabling universe in my pbuilder would probably help, lol [23:06] I think yes :) [23:08] ScottK: ack for this? https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/k9copy/+bug/339688 :( [23:08] Ubuntu bug 339688 in k9copy "FFE for k9copy 2.20" [Undecided,New] === ScottK changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Next Kubuntu Meeting Tuesday March 17 2009 at 17:00 UTC | Jaunty Alpha-6 Released! | 8.04.2 Released! | Feature Freeze in effect - Fix bugs | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo [23:09] Someone please make a release announcement and send it to kubuntu-devel ..... [23:09] lex79: Minus points for edge urls. [23:10] lex79: Give it it's first ack though? [23:10] lex79: Also next time test before you ask for the FFe. [23:11] lex79: Out of curiosity, is there any reason kblogger depends on a kde3 version of libkipi? [23:11] ok :) [23:11] I don't know JontheEchidna [23:11] hmm, I will have to investigate that then [23:12] Not your fault of course [23:13] JontheEchidna: Sponsor lesson #1: It's always the sponsoree's fault. [23:13] :D [23:14] So basically it doesn't matter who introduced the bug, it's also partly the fault of everybody who didn't notice it? [23:15] Last in changelog for me :P [23:16] It looks like kblogger's cmake doesn't check for kipi either [23:16] JontheEchidna: See rule #1. [23:22] lex79: if you could remove the libkipi0-dev build-depend, that'd be great. Kipi support is still on the todo list for the KDE4 version [23:23] JontheEchidna: I have to remove or change in libkipi6-dev ? [23:24] Remove [23:26] Yeah [23:33] JontheEchidna: done [23:34] Thx [23:35] me too [23:59] quick question i just built a jaunty vm and all i have is the login background (sorry not more preicse) even after i login, no applets, no kickoff, nothing, also no crash?