[15:00] <matsubara> #startmeeting
[15:00] <MootBot> Meeting started at 10:00. The chair is matsubara.
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[15:00] <matsubara> Welcome to this week's Launchpad Production Meeting. For the next 45 minutes or so, we'll be coordinating the resolution of specific Launchpad bugs and issues.
[15:00] <matsubara> [TOPIC] Roll Call
[15:00] <MootBot> New Topic:  Roll Call
[15:00] <sinzui> me
[15:00] <matsubara> Not on the Launchpad Dev team? Welcome! Come "me" with the rest of us!
[15:00] <bigjools> me
[15:00] <herb> me
[15:00] <stub> me
[15:00] <henninge> meeee
[15:00] <Ursinha> me
[15:01] <matsubara> rockstar: hi
[15:01] <rockstar> me
[15:01] <matsubara> intellectronica: hi
[15:01] <intellectronica> me
[15:02] <matsubara> all right. flacoste can join later
[15:02] <matsubara> [TOPIC] Agenda
[15:02] <MootBot> New Topic:  Agenda
[15:02] <matsubara>  * Actions from last meeting
[15:02] <matsubara>  * Oops report & Critical Bugs
[15:02] <matsubara>  * Operations report (mthaddon/herb/spm)
[15:02] <matsubara>  * DBA report (stub)
[15:02] <matsubara> [TOPIC] * Actions from last meeting
[15:02] <MootBot> New Topic:  * Actions from last meeting
[15:02] <matsubara>   * matsubara to chase rockstar about OOPS-1152XMLP1
[15:02] <matsubara>     * talked to mwhudson about this one and filed bug 338535
[15:02] <matsubara>   * Ursinha to talk to rockstar about https://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=OOPS-1159EA69
[15:02] <matsubara>   * Ursinha to file a bug about OOPS-1160ED105 and assign to intellectronica
[15:02] <matsubara>     * done: 337811
[15:02] <matsubara>   * matsubara to chase the code guys about bug 337942
[15:02] <matsubara>     * talked to thumper about this one. Importance was lowered and explained in the bug report.
[15:03] <Ursinha> hey rockstar :)
[15:03] <Ursinha> can you take a look on that oops?
[15:03] <rockstar> Hi Ursinha
[15:03] <rockstar> Ursinha, that looks like a Soyuz oops.
[15:04] <matsubara> soyuz?
[15:04] <Ursinha> rockstar: huh?
[15:04] <rockstar> NoSuchDistroSeries: No such distribution series: 'totem'.
[15:04] <bigjools> it looks like source package branches?
[15:05] <Ursinha> bigjools: do you agree with rockstar?
[15:05] <rockstar> Oh, huh.  Looking at the traceback, it's doing something with the XML-RPC server.
[15:05] <bigjools> Ursinha: no
[15:05] <Ursinha> rockstar: :)
[15:05] <rockstar> So that might be a code thing after all...
[15:06] <rockstar> I would say that's a relatively low priority, since source package branches aren't completely working.  I'll talk to jml about it.
[15:06] <Ursinha> rockstar: thanks. Want me to file a bug?
[15:06] <matsubara> [action] Ursinha to file a bug about OOPS-1159EA69
[15:06] <rockstar> Ursinha, yes please.
[15:06] <MootBot> ACTION received:  Ursinha to file a bug about OOPS-1159EA69
[15:06] <Ursinha> thanks rockstar
[15:07] <matsubara> all right. thanks rockstar, Ursinha
[15:07] <matsubara> [TOPIC] * Oops report & Critical Bugs
[15:07] <MootBot> New Topic:  * Oops report & Critical Bugs
[15:08] <Ursinha> one issue for bugs: intellectronica, https://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=OOPS-1166F631
[15:09]  * Ursinha wonders if the internet is off again
[15:09] <intellectronica> haven't seen anything like this before. will investigate
[15:09] <intellectronica> Ursinha: you gonna file a bug, or should i?
[15:10] <Ursinha> thanks intellectronica
[15:10] <Ursinha> intellectronica: I will
[15:10] <matsubara> [action] Ursinha to file a bug about OOPS-1166F631 and assign to intellectronica
[15:10] <MootBot> ACTION received:  Ursinha to file a bug about OOPS-1166F631 and assign to intellectronica
[15:10] <intellectronica> oh, it's some problem working with data from apport
[15:11] <rockstar> Someone needs to teach ubottu about the new OOPS url.
[15:11] <matsubara> intellectronica: looks like apport data isn't sending the correct headers
[15:11] <intellectronica> yes
[15:11] <matsubara> all right. thanks intellectronica
[15:12] <matsubara> we have 1 critical bug which is in progress already.
[15:12] <matsubara> bug 341251
[15:12] <intellectronica> or that our parsing of the headers is incorrect
[15:12] <Ursinha> right, that's all from me
[15:12] <matsubara> ok. thanks Ursinha
[15:12] <matsubara> [TOPIC] * Operations report (mthaddon/herb/spm)
[15:12] <MootBot> New Topic:  * Operations report (mthaddon/herb/spm)
[15:12] <herb> 2009-03-10 - Cherry picked r7907 to the scripts server to fix bug #300634.
[15:12] <herb> Bug #156453 and bug #118625 continue to be a daily problem.
[15:12] <herb> Bug #260171 is still causing a problem every few days.
[15:13] <herb> There are currently 3 pending cherry picks, two of which need approval.
[15:13] <sinzui> matsubara: bugs 341085, 341117 landed, but misses the edge update
[15:13] <intellectronica> whoops
[15:14] <Ursinha> ouch
[15:14] <intellectronica> ubottu should really start using the api
[15:14]  * sinzui thinks those bugs are private
[15:14] <matsubara> sinzui: thanks for fixing it so quickly.
[15:14] <herb> at least one of them is.
[15:14] <matsubara> sinzui: are we going to need a cp for those?
[15:15] <sinzui> matsubara: they could be, I'm inclined to push for it since the next release on on April 1
[15:15] <matsubara> [action] sinzui to request CP for bugs 341085 and 341117
[15:15] <MootBot> ACTION received:  sinzui to request CP for bugs 341085 and 341117
[15:16] <matsubara> hey rockstar, any news about the loggerhead work that would make the LOSAs happier?
[15:16] <rockstar> matsubara, well, nothing concrete.
[15:16] <matsubara> :-(
[15:17] <rockstar> Every time we commit something, we *think* it'll fix it, but it never completely fixes it.
[15:17] <rockstar> We are planning on chasing down the right people at PyCon to give us some definitive answers.
[15:18] <rockstar> Profiling/debugging an application like this isn't trivial, so we're kinda doing our best with the voodoo we have.
[15:18] <matsubara> rockstar: last meeting, I think stub suggested contracting someone to look at those problems. did you consider that?
[15:19] <rockstar> matsubara, probably not.
[15:20] <matsubara> rockstar: bring it up with the Code team. see what they think about it
[15:20] <matsubara> anyway, let's move on.
[15:20] <matsubara> thanks rockstar and herb
[15:20] <matsubara> [TOPIC] * DBA report (stub)
[15:20] <MootBot> New Topic:  * DBA report (stub)
[15:20] <herb> thanks matsubara, rockstar
[15:20] <stub> Database maintenance tools are being updated to work with multiple slaves, including bringing them up and dropping them. The new slave should be live early next week.
[15:20] <stub> Nothing else to report.
[15:21] <matsubara> I forgot one thing, herb
[15:21] <matsubara> herb: staging is running in its new hardware now, right?
[15:21] <herb> the staging db is running on it's new hardware, yes.
[15:22] <herb> s/it's/its/
[15:22] <matsubara> ok, cool!
[15:22] <matsubara> thanks stub, herb
[15:22] <matsubara> anything else before I close?
[15:23] <matsubara> Thank you all for attending this week's Launchpad Production Meeting. See the channel topic for the location of the logs.
[15:23] <matsubara> #endmeeting
[15:23] <MootBot> Meeting finished at 10:23.
[15:23] <bigjools> thanks matsubara
[15:24] <intellectronica> thanks matsubara
[15:24] <Ursinha> thanks matsubara
[15:25] <Ursinha> intellectronica: /11
[15:25] <matsubara> you're welcome
[15:25] <Ursinha> intellectronica: sorry, bug 341766
[15:25] <intellectronica> Ursinha: never saw that one before
[15:25] <Ursinha> :)
[15:26] <Ursinha> intellectronica: irssi fail
[15:26] <intellectronica> ah, of course :)
[15:26] <intellectronica> Ursinha: thanks
[15:26] <intellectronica> Ursinha: b.t.w have we seen this oops many times, or just this single instance?
[15:27] <intellectronica> i'm asking so that i can determine the importance
[15:29] <Ursinha> intellectronica: I've seen this one a few times a day
[15:30] <intellectronica> really? wow, that's bad. i wonder if apport changed
[15:30] <intellectronica> maybe it changed it's a jaunty/apport bug?
[15:31] <Ursinha> hmm, worth more checking
[15:33] <Ursinha> intellectronica: I don't think it's a apport change, because I guess there would be a lot more it that was the case, no?
[15:33] <intellectronica> Ursinha: don't know. if it's a very recent change, then maybe not many people have that version
[15:33] <matsubara> Ursinha: https://dev.launchpad.net/LaunchpadBugTags
[15:34] <Ursinha> matsubara: thanks
[15:34] <intellectronica> Ursinha: the malone code we're looking at hasn't changed in a long long time
[15:34] <Ursinha> intellectronica: hmmm, maybe. I'm using jaunty and already "reported" many incidents
[15:34] <Ursinha> didn't hit any problems so far
[15:35] <matsubara> Ursinha, intellectronica: could be some specific error report triggering the error. Are all oopses caused by the same person?
[15:36]  * Ursinha looks
[15:36] <intellectronica> is there now way to get the username from the oops report?
[15:37] <intellectronica> i only see the full name and db id
[15:39] <Ursinha> intellectronica: indeed
[15:39] <Ursinha> intellectronica: I'll open a bug about it and matsubara will check
[15:40] <intellectronica> anyway, given that the user is not member of any team, i would guess that it's probably not the case that he's using a super latest version of apport
[15:40] <Ursinha> intellectronica: I lied, I saw a few occurrences but not daily
[15:40] <Ursinha> intellectronica: do you want to see the oopses?
[15:40] <Ursinha> I'll append them to the bug report
[15:41] <intellectronica> Ursinha: yes, that would be great
[16:31] <Ursinha> intellectronica: I finally managed to convince my internet to edit the bug 341766
[16:31] <Ursinha> I placed there all oopses I could find
[16:31] <Ursinha> this year
[16:31] <intellectronica> Ursinha: thanks muchly!
[16:32] <Ursinha> intellectronica: my pleasure! :)
[16:32] <intellectronica> oh, were there ones from previous years?
[16:32] <intellectronica> so, basically, this isn't a very recent thing?
[16:32] <Ursinha> yes, but very rare
[16:32] <Ursinha> unfortunately not :(
[16:35] <Ursinha> intellectronica: talking about apport, another one, but this is quite frequent: bug 329908
[16:38] <intellectronica> Ursinha: happy days