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a|wenanyone here who is kind of responsible for the BugSquad part of the wiki?04:47
a|wenwould it be possible to split out the "Hug day! [date]" text in the header https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/Header on it's own page? that would make it possible to include the always correct date in the header on all the kubuntu-pages on the wiki (now we need to update manually; which is only done once a month or so)04:49
dholbachgood morning06:13
a|wendholbach: morning ... do you have anything to do with the bugsquad pat of the wiki?06:32
dholbacha|wen: I used to, but not so much anymore - pedro might be a much better contact for it06:32
dholbachor bdmurray or ogasawara06:33
a|wendholbach: okay; just a "small" change i didn't want to do so not to mess up stuff...06:33
dholbacha|wen: what is it?06:34
a|wensplitting out the "Hug day! [date]" text in the header https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/Header on it's own page? that would make it possible to include the always correct date in the header on all the kubuntu-pages on the wiki :)06:34
dholbacha|wen: sounds reasonable :)06:34
dholbachwe've done that in a few other MOTU pages too06:34
a|wen:) ... does going with /BugSquad/Header/Hugday sound okay?06:35
dholbachyeah06:36
a|wendone! ... cool, no more manual updating :)06:44
dholbachrock and roll!06:44
dholbach:-)06:44
YoBoYgood morning06:54
gnomefreakmvo: if your around i have a bug that i think is something that cant be fixed in update-manager its bug 8146410:04
ubottuLaunchpad bug 81464 in update-manager "Update manager Instruction cannot be carried out" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/8146410:04
mvothanks gnomefreak, I have a look10:07
BUGabundoisn't there a dbgsym version of cheese? its seg faulting on me10:07
gnomefreakmvo: np thanks for looking10:07
gnomefreakBUGabundo: cheese-dbgsym10:08
gnomefreakBUGabundo: cheese-dbgsym - debug symbols for package cheese10:09
BUGabundognomefreak: not there on ddebs10:09
gnomefreakBUGabundo: oh than no  that is where all the dbgsym as far as i know let me check if there is a dbg package.10:09
BUGabundook got a trace non the less10:10
gnomefreakBUGabundo: nope thats it10:10
BUGabundofiling on LP10:10
BUGabundoyeah, I checked it too... no debug version10:10
gnomefreakask them to add minhary build of dbg in the package (add to control file and need to add 1 line to rules however i dont remember offf hand since we dropped dbg in mozilla packages for size reason10:11
gnomefreakdbg in mozilla apps run ~50mb10:11
BUGabundohttps://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cheese/+bug/34161810:12
ubottuUbuntu bug 341618 in cheese "cheese segfault" [Undecided,New]10:12
gnomefreakBUGabundo: did you use apport to file the crash bug? if you do that apport will add dbg symbols adn will mark as a duplicate if there is one :) pitti did a great job on apport10:13
BUGabundoalready added them10:14
BUGabundomanually10:15
BUGabundognomefreak: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cheese/+bug/341618/comments/210:15
ubottuUbuntu bug 341618 in cheese "cheese segfault" [Undecided,New]10:15
BUGabundohumm let me fire up apport once again10:15
gnomefreakthat is a great backtrace it has the info needed by the looks of it10:16
BUGabundonice10:16
BUGabundognomefreak: apport is not finding the one that I manually posted10:20
BUGabundowith the auto generated!10:20
BUGabundoshould I file both and mark as dupe?10:20
gnomefreakBUGabundo: it wont you need to double click file in /var/crash and follow the promts10:20
BUGabundoahh10:21
BUGabundodidn't know I could double click it10:21
gnomefreakBUGabundo: yes make 341618 a dup. of the apport fileed bug10:21
BUGabundook10:22
ttxsignasap10:22
gnomefreakBUGabundo: you can run from trm but i cant for the life of me remember (i think its "apport filename in /var/crash"10:22
BUGabundohumm10:22
ttxer.10:22
BUGabundothat never worked for me10:22
ttxFeel free to bug me with any samba-hugday-related questions btw10:23
BUGabundognomefreak: dupe of bug 341624 now10:25
ubottuBug 341624 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/341624 is private10:25
gnomefreakBUGabundo: im not signed up for cheese so when in private i can see load page10:27
BUGabundoohh10:29
BUGabundolet me unmark it then10:29
BUGabundognomefreak: clear now10:31
BUGabundoahh10:31
BUGabundov4lconvert_convert()10:31
BUGabundoI'm pretty sure that the driver working10:31
BUGabundolet me alert Nol to it10:31
gnomefreaki missed that in the backtrace but as long are you see it thats all that matters10:31
BUGabundoI don't10:32
BUGabundoits the subject10:32
BUGabundoLOL10:32
BUGabundolet me attach the dmesg traces too10:32
BUGabundoNol is gonna need them10:32
BUGabundohttp://paste.ubuntu.com/130102/plain/10:35
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HewCould someone have a look at this backtrace http://launchpadlibrarian.net/23760111/gdb-pidgin.txt from bug 341045? It looks a bit unusual to me, I'm not sure if it's complete or not.11:06
ubottuLaunchpad bug 341045 in pidgin "pidgin crashed with SIGSEGV" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/34104511:06
BUGabundoHew: I get pidgin crashes11:09
BUGabundobut never seen one like that11:09
BUGabundoit would look to be plugin related11:09
seb128Hew: yeah, it's not useful11:10
BUGabundoask him to run --debug too11:10
BUGabundoand watch for the plugin list11:10
pedro_hey folks, remember that we're celebrating a samba hug day today https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/20090312 , feel free to grab any bug out of the list and squash it11:10
pedro_bonjour seb12811:10
seb128hello pedro_11:10
seb128pedro_: how do you say hello again in your weird language? ;-)11:10
pedro_weird language?11:11
* pedro_ grabs his shotgun11:11
Hewthanks BUGabundo, seb128.11:11
* seb128 offers pedro_ a guinea pig to eat11:11
delicowahi i suppose today is the hug day..How do things work on hug days11:11
pedro_lol11:12
pedro_delicowa: yep indeed, well if you look to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/2009031211:12
pedro_there's a list of bugs, some of them have a green background, that means someone already triaged those11:13
seb128pedro_: btw sorry for the bugmail spam, I was on a bug cleaning rampage yesterday11:14
pedro_delicowa: so select an untriaged bug and follow the instructions on the page to triage it, as soon as you finish with it, mark it as close with the hug day tools or edit the wiki page by hand, we recommend the hug day tools it's easier to do the job with it11:15
delicowathanks pedro11:15
delicowatriage? as in try to resolve it?11:15
pedro_seb128: no problem, btw were you having a email delay yesterday? i was having the emails from like 12UTC at 20 UTC or so11:15
seb128pedro_: I was having emails but with quite some lag too yes11:16
seb128pedro_: seems back to normal today11:16
delicowathanks again pedro.......have to sign out now11:17
pedro_seb128: nice i was about to start blaming evolution :-P11:17
seb128pedro_: hey, people tend to always blame the poor mailer when it's due to servers11:17
BUGabundoany idea why instaling libc6-dbg remove libc6-dbgsym?11:20
pedro_seb128: yeah, that's so true11:21
seb128pedro_: you still didn't reply to my hello question btw ;-)11:22
seb128BUGabundo: because they ship the same files and can't be installed together11:22
seb128BUGabundo: it's true for all -dbg and -dbgsym binaries11:22
seb128BUGabundo: -dbgsym is an automatic way to create -dbg for everything11:23
pedro_seb128: well "hola" works :-P11:23
seb128pedro_: hola to you ;-)11:23
BUGabundoseb128: ahh11:23
BUGabundoE: /var/cache/apt/archives/libtorrent-rasterbar2_0.14.2-1ubuntu1_amd64.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/libtorrent-rasterbar.so.2.0.0', which is also in package libtorrent-rasterbar111:35
BUGabundoknown prob?11:35
HewMy USB media player is being mounted as read-only. Anyone know the package that would be responsible for this?11:43
BUGabundoHew: usually that means that it was umounted dirty11:45
BUGabundocheck the FS and remount11:45
BUGabundoshould be of then11:45
Hobbsee[22:47] <Hobbsee> BUGabundo: did you find a bug on it?11:47
BUGabundoI saw11:48
Hobbseeright11:48
BUGabundoor better, I replied on +111:48
BUGabundofirefox 3.1 just froze... what's the best way to dump the reason for the crash?11:50
HobbseeBUGabundo: fixed.11:54
BUGabundothanks11:54
BUGabundois there a bug for it?11:55
Hobbseenope11:55
BUGabundoso I know when it gets build?11:55
BUGabundoI'll keep trying then11:55
Hobbseenot even in debian, for some reason.11:55
Hobbseeit'll be in the archive in a couple of hours, max, i expect11:55
Hobbseeoh, hrm, it'll get dropped in a queue11:55
BUGabundonp11:56
BUGabundothanks for the work11:56
Hobbseenp11:56
dholbach<pedro> http://identi.ca/group/ubuntuqa <-12:23
pedro_ttx: salut, do you need any other logs on bug 330827 ?12:33
ubottuError: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: The read operation timed out (https://launchpad.net/bugs/330827/+text)12:33
pedro_thanks ubottu12:33
ttxlooking...12:34
pedro_thanks you12:34
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ttxpedro_: looks like a completely borked install. Multiple crashes, Exec format error...12:37
ttxnot sure he can give us anything more useful12:37
pedro_ttx: ok, thanks for looking12:39
ttxpedro_: his seahorse bug got invalidated as a "wrong local install", this one is probably related. I kept it open/private just in case someone else would submit the same type of crashes12:40
pedro_alright12:40
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jgoguenCould someone on bug-control change the importance of bug 237341 to Low?12:58
ubottuLaunchpad bug 237341 in thunderbird "mozilla-thunderbird locates 2/6/2008 as last week in 4/6/2008" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/23734112:58
pedro_jgoguen: looking13:02
pedro_jgoguen: done. btw please consider in joining the bug control team, you have been doing a great work13:03
pedro_jgoguen: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugControl <- all the information is there13:03
jgoguenpedro_: you think I have enough to do that already?13:15
pedro_jgoguen: yeah, totally, you've been contributing a lot to hug days, triaging bugs, finding upstream ones and linking them to lp, etc.13:21
pedro_jgoguen: i'm sure you can be a good addition to the team13:22
jgoguenpedro_: thanks :) do you mind if I ping you later with a short list of bugs to make sure they're a good representation of what the team is looking for?13:23
pedro_jgoguen: no problem at all, just send me a query when you're done so we don't flood in the channel :-)13:25
jgoguen:)13:26
Hewhttp://launchpadlibrarian.net/23779173/Stacktrace.txt from bug 295140. Is the bug in k3dsurf, or a package such as nvidia or mesa?13:40
ubottuLaunchpad bug 295140 in k3dsurf "k3dsurf doesn't start" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/29514013:40
bddebianBoo13:58
BUGabundofoo fam fee14:00
bddebianheh14:03
pedro_Today we are having the Samba Hug Day: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/20090312 , we still have bugs waiting for being triaged, feel free to grab any of them14:06
pedro_ttx: may you give some feedback on bug 300221 ?14:12
ubottuLaunchpad bug 300221 in samba "Add "Recommends: keyutils" to smbfs" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/30022114:12
ttxpedro_: looking...14:12
pedro_ttx: thanks you rock14:12
ttxpedro_: confirmed.14:15
pedro_ttx: great, thanks14:34
bcurtiswxhey all, i looked through the bugs/tags wiki, i couldn't find anything that would relate to a patch submitted that needs to be tested... is there such a thing.. and if not should I add it?14:39
EtienneGHaaaa Samba.  Can't live with it, can't live without it.  :D14:39
bdmurraybcurtiswx: what do you see the workflow for that being?15:09
BUGabundo$ exaile /usr/share/exaile/xl/library.py:17: DeprecationWarning: the md5 module is deprecated; use hashlib instead15:10
BUGabundo  import md5, os, random, re, threading, time, traceback, gc, sys15:10
BUGabundodo you guys think I should report this?15:10
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bcurtiswxanyone respond to my tags question? i got disconnected15:14
BUGabundo(03:09:21 PM) bdmurray: bcurtiswx: what do you see the workflow for that being?15:14
BUGabundogonna need some help finding exaile memory leak... anyone wants to help?15:15
bcurtiswxbdmurray: test to reproduce bug, then if you can reproduce the bug, test the patch to see if its a good fix? (im not fully knowledgeable about workflows)15:16
bcurtiswxapologies for a flaky wireless connection on my end15:17
bdmurraybcurtiswx: most likely every bug with a patch is untested (other than the uploader) right now, so we'd have to tag every bug patch-needs-testing (or what have you), so I think it'd make more sense to start using patch-been-tested (or what have you)15:18
charlie-tcaThere is a tag used in launchpad called "patch" with 113 bugs15:21
bcurtiswxbdmurray: im sorry, but i guess I would think patch-needs-testing makes more sense for patches that aren't tested yet, then patch-been-tested (using your tags as an example)15:22
bcurtiswxbdmurray: but maybe i just haven't caught onto the idea quite right15:23
bdmurraybcurtiswx: right but every bug with a patch is probably in the needs-testing state15:23
bdmurraybcurtiswx: so we'd just be tagging every bug with that15:24
bdmurraybcurtiswx: instead lets tag the smaller subset, the tested ones, after they've been tested15:24
bcurtiswxbdmurray: ah, so you're saying that theres such a large amount of bugs with patches, that its better to mark the tested ones?15:24
bdmurraybcurtiswx: yes15:25
bcurtiswxbdmurray: ok, is there a group that tracks bugs with patches attached that go around testing them?15:25
bdmurraybcurtiswx: not that I know of, would you like to start one?15:26
acidborghi15:27
bcurtiswxbdmurray: hmm, i don't even know how to use a .patch file, and i wouldn't be able to tackle that many patches15:27
bcurtiswxbdmurray: if a group that does that is beneficial enough, i can try to learn it and start a group15:28
bcurtiswxbdmurray: with enough interest from others to help as well, of course15:28
bdmurraybcurtiswx: I can help write the documentation and I've written up some the patch workflow at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Patches15:29
bdmurrayWhy don't I write up how to test them today and you can look that over / test it some?15:30
bcurtiswxbdmurray: sure15:31
pedro_ttx: may you please have a look to the patch provided on bug 164544? the provider said it fixes the issue15:33
ubottuError: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: The read operation timed out (https://launchpad.net/bugs/164544/+text)15:33
pedro_ubottu: you're being evil today15:34
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)15:34
pedro_let's try again, bug 16454415:34
ubottuLaunchpad bug 164544 in samba "Error while join to domain (Unable to create machine account)" [Unknown,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/16454415:34
ttxpedro_: looking...15:35
bcurtiswxubottu has mood swings, may be that time of month?15:36
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)15:36
acidborgIs anyone working on bug 280814 ?15:37
ubottuLaunchpad bug 280814 in samba "Correct man page for uid and gid" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/28081415:37
ttxpedro_: I would set it back to Incomplete. The patch has been disputed on our bug, and the bug is incomplete on the related Samba bugtracker item...15:38
pedro_ttx: awesome, thanks15:39
pedro_acidborg: ttx might know ;-)15:39
ttxacidborg: not that I know of.15:39
acidborgok, so I want to try (it's my first hug day)15:40
* ttx cheers15:40
bcurtiswxacidborg: you can usually tell if someone has started triaging a bug by looking at the activity log, that link can be found on the top right of bug pages15:44
acidborgbcurtiswx: thanks15:45
bcurtiswxacidborg: the chances of someone else working on a bug at the same time as you is rare, and if it happens its not a big deal, just make sure you or the other person know whos taking care of the bug15:46
acidborgbcurtiswx: ok15:47
bcurtiswxbrb, moving to another location15:49
acidborgI've marked bug 280814 as invalid. Can anyone check it, please?15:56
ubottuLaunchpad bug 280814 in samba "Correct man page for uid and gid" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/28081415:56
benstewhere can I contact MOTU mailing list withouht subsribing it?,16:05
benstejust want to add https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tiemu/+bug/341779 to the wishlist16:05
ubottuUbuntu bug 341779 in tiemu "update the version of tiemu pls" [Undecided,New]16:05
bcurtiswxbdmurray: according to the bugs/patches link you sent me, i should see a star next to the patch instead of the green down arrow.. i installed greasemonkey and the lp_patches script (as well as all the others on that page), but i don't see the star? am i doing something wrong?16:07
bdmurraydid you reload the page?16:07
bcurtiswxyeah even restarted firefox a couple times16:08
bcurtiswxhmm, maybe its cached in?16:08
bdmurrayhow did you install the greasemonkey script? at the code page?16:08
bcurtiswxyeah, i clicked the link and then greasemonkey asked me to install it and i clicked install16:09
bcurtiswx3.0.7 firefox16:09
jelmerpedro_, hi16:09
bdmurraybcurtiswx: there are 2 links when you browse the code one is wrong and one isn't16:10
jelmerpedro_, you just marked bug 302148 as confirmed16:10
ubottuLaunchpad bug 302148 in samba "Installing wine starts winbindd as a daemon" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/30214816:10
bdmurraybcurtiswx: you want the green download arrow on the far right16:10
bdmurraydon't click on the file name as that's horked16:10
bcurtiswxahh ok16:10
bcurtiswxbdmurray: that was it, thx16:14
bdmurraybcurtiswx: I wonder if sticking a file name in bzr that says that would help16:15
bdmurrayso you see something like "click green arrow to install" when browsing the code16:15
bcurtiswxbdmurray: yeah something like "click green down arrow", maybe put that in the README?16:17
bdmurrayI was just going to name the file that so you could read it when going to the web page w/o opening the readme16:18
bcurtiswxbdmurray: even better16:18
mathiazttx: hi - how is the samba bug day going?16:23
ttxplenty of activity, looking at the resulting bugmail16:23
ttxI mostly did some support, I didn't really triage myself.16:24
mathiazttx: awesome! :)16:24
acidborgCan I mark bug 320212 as confirmed?16:29
ubottuLaunchpad bug 320212 in samba "cannot access samba share after mount.cifs" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/32021216:29
bcurtiswxacidborg: can you reproduce the bug OR has someone commented that they are able to reproduce it?16:31
acidborgbcurtiswx: no. It has all the info required so, what state should I give it instead of new?16:32
bcurtiswxacidborg: as long as all of the information is there (and i agree it all is), you would request a bug control member to set as triaged, and they will set importance16:37
bcurtiswxacidborg: i can take care of that for you :-)16:37
acidborgbcurtiswx: thanks, I would appreciate that16:40
bcurtiswxacidborg: done16:42
acidborgbcurtiswx: thanks16:42
pedro_jelmer: yeah, a few mins ago, I'm reading your comments on it now17:01
pedro_jelmer: got it, your call then17:05
pedro_mathiaz: hey, have you looked at the graphs at the bottom of the page?17:05
pedro_http://people.ubuntu.com/~brian/complete-graphs/samba/plots/samba-1day-triaging.png17:05
pedro_ttx: do you know if there's an upstream report about bug 337037 ?17:06
ubottuLaunchpad bug 337037 in samba "MS Office reports "Access Denied" when saving to samba share" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/33703717:06
pedro_ttx: i cannot find anything on the upstream BTS17:06
ttxpedro_: so far I only found the thread. We were waiting for some reproduction before escalating the issue to samba devs.17:07
ttxpedro_: finding someone with windows stuff / jaunty share to reproduce would be great17:08
pedro_ttx: alrighty, thanks17:09
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bcurtiswxwhat package manages suspend and what program manages the keyboard shortcuts (i.e the suspend one)17:19
ttxok guys, I'm calling it a day. mathiaz should be able to help you for the rest of the HugDay.17:34
hggdhmrooney, ping18:04
mrooneyhggdh: hello!18:04
hggdhmrooney, I had a look at the eeebotu logs, and indeed we hit a problem yesterday (timeouts)18:04
mrooneyhm interesting18:04
hggdhyay18:05
mrooneybut it doesn't happen often, perhaps just a normal thing18:05
mrooney?18:05
hggdhIt was different -- a timeout on 127.0.0.1... I still have to get back there, and look at it, but I am quite busy this week18:05
hggdhtomrrow I might have some time18:06
mrooneybdmurray: do you know why the upstream project for firefox is Mozilla Core?18:08
mrooneythat is where launchpad files the bug against if you click through its helpers, but I feel that doesn't really make sense18:08
bdmurraymrooney: jcastro know a fair bit more about upstream relations than me18:13
mrooneybdmurray: okay thanks, maybe he can chime in when he is around18:16
pedro_mathiaz: do you have any thoughts about bug 280712 ?18:54
ubottuError: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: timed out (https://launchpad.net/bugs/280712/+text)18:54
pedro_bug 28071218:54
ubottuLaunchpad bug 280712 in samba "Accessing printing properties for some drivers causes excessive load on CPU" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/28071218:54
mathiazpedro_: I'd move it to confirmed - the reporter is one of the Canonical support guy18:56
mathiazpedro_: and ask if he can reproduce it on intrepid/jaunty18:56
pedro_mathiaz: oki doki, I'll do that, thanks yu18:57
pedro_s/yu/you18:57
ivoksoh... it's a bug squash day19:07
mathiazivoks: yop - did you notice anything unusual in your inbox?19:08
ivoks?19:09
mathiazivoks: I meant bug mail19:09
ivoksmathiaz: nothing19:10
mathiazivoks: oh well - pedro_ is doing an amazing job at triaging samba bugs19:11
ivoksi see most of them are triaged19:11
ivokswould ucf give up on absence of user input?19:29
ivoksand leave package unconfigured19:29
ivoksor could update-manager do that?19:30
ivoksbug 29812619:30
ubottuLaunchpad bug 298126 in samba "package samba-common 2:3.2.3-1ubuntu3 failed to install/upgrade: " [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/29812619:30
ivokshttps://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/107188/comments/1419:32
ivokshm... yes...19:32
ubottuUbuntu bug 107188 in update-manager "[patch] Upgrade tool crashed with " Cannot allocate memory"" [High,Confirmed]19:32
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ivoksmathiaz: here?20:55
mathiazivoks: yes20:55
ivoksmathiaz: i think bug 337037 should be high20:56
ubottuLaunchpad bug 337037 in samba "MS Office reports "Access Denied" when saving to samba share" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/33703720:56
mathiazivoks: may be. It's on the radar though.20:57
mathiazivoks: ttx has been looking into that. He was just blocked in reproducing it because he doesn't have access to an Office system.20:58
ivoksoh...20:58
bitumen2003?Is there a hug today or was it yesterday date was for march 12th22:37
bitumen2003ohhh and hi everyone!22:38
bdmurraybcurtiswx: I've written a rough draft for you https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/PatchTesting22:48
bcurtiswxbdmurray: ok thanks.  Im going through dholbachs packaging tutorials packaging my first package from tar.gz22:51
greg-gbdmurray: that looks good, and useful to get people's feet wet with testing patches (the straight-forward, simple sounding nature of it is good)22:57
bdmurraygreg-g: well, I gloss over how to get a vm working and how to build a package ;-)22:57
greg-gright, "simple sounding" ;)22:58
bdmurraygreg-g: thanks though, I wanted it to be approachable22:58
greg-gI think you acheived that22:58
bcurtiswxbdmurray: yeah it looks quite approachable23:01
bcurtiswxwhat package is debuild a part of?23:33
bcurtiswxfound it, devscripts23:37
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bcurtiswxhmm, my debuild failed.. and i can't say i know why23:45
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