[08:07] <tjaalton> cjwatson: success :) lvm->regular->lvm installation goes fine now
[08:07] <davmor2> tjaalton: is that on server
[08:07] <tjaalton> davmor2: netboot, but yes
[08:08] <davmor2> cool the fix went through Yay
[08:08] <tjaalton> new partman-lvm
[08:08] <tjaalton> now I can test lvm on top of multipath..
[08:08] <davmor2> should be in Ubuntu today as well after the re-bloody-spin :(
[08:09] <davmor2> tjaalton: can you do an lvm encrypted over the top of an existing lvm install?
[08:09] <tjaalton> davmor2: haven't tried, and not exactly useful here
[08:10] <davmor2> tjaalton: Np's just thought I'd ask I'll try 1 later after I've reblitzed Ubuntu
[09:20] <ago_> evand for vista permissions, see https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/wubi/+bug/340400/comments/8
[09:21] <evand> ok, will give that a shot
[09:21] <ago_> not sure if there is time to have that and my r90 patch in the alpha
[09:21] <ago_> would be nice (if it works)
[09:24] <evand> very doubtful, the alpha release is today
[09:24] <evand> and I don't think it's the kind of thing they'd respin CDs for in the 11th hour
[09:25] <ago_> just in case there is a respin for some other reason...
[09:26] <ago_> by the way we would need a torrent set up at some stage to test bt
[09:28] <davmor2> evand: Is there like a wubi dev section so I can get signed up to all the wubi bugs so I can test against them for confirmations?
[09:29] <evand> dev section?
[09:31] <davmor2> evand: Well so you get auto subscribed to bugs :)  Normally happens to people who are devs for that package :)
[09:32] <davmor2> like the installer team so if you report a bug again ubiqu or d-i
[09:32] <ago_> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/wubi/+subscribe
[09:32] <evand> https://edge.launchpad.net/wubi/+subscribe
[09:32] <evand> heh
[09:33] <davmor2> cool thanks :)
[09:36] <ago_> davmor2, it would be interesting to see if we still have issues with 207137
[09:36] <davmor2> bug 207137
[09:37] <ago_> I would expect so because the low level calls should be similar, but I cannot be sure since I am using high level python file I/O
[09:37] <davmor2> ago_: I'll burn a cd now and find out
[09:37] <ago_> thx
[09:37] <ago_> have to go now, post a bug if you find anything new
[09:37] <davmor2> need to re-check wubi anyway :)
[09:43] <davmor2> ago_: I think I noticed which I'll check again in a second is if you change the username from the windows one you login with the new one but the old one is displayed in fusa
[09:44] <davmor2> I'll confirm it first with this install now which seems to be working :)
[09:44] <davmor2> from cd
[09:44] <davmor2> Ah no failed
[09:54] <ago_> :(
[09:54] <davmor2> ago_: on a plus side I've been able to upload the log :)
[09:55] <ago_> by the way davmor2 for 339907 I do not think you  tested the new code as we evan r90 diverge from my r90
[09:55] <ago_> evand do you think you can look into m-a and wubi?
[09:55] <ago_> #234974
[09:55] <davmor2> ago_: Don't mention m-a ;)
[09:55] <davmor2> shhh
[09:55] <evand> I'll try to find time for it, but there are some higher profile bugs on the horizon
[09:57] <davmor2> bug 339907
[09:57] <davmor2> ago_: Fair enough :)
[09:57] <ago_> davmor2, your log in the CD is due to a different issue, fixed in my r90
[09:58] <ago_> evand can you please merge my r90 patches + https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/wubi/+bug/340400/comments/8
[09:58] <ago_> and create a build for davmor2?
[09:58] <evand> ago_: that's what I'm working on right now :)
[09:59] <ago_> thx
[09:59] <ago_> have really to go now, have a good day
[10:00] <evand> davmor2:  http://people.ubuntu.com/~evand/tmp/wubi.exe
[10:01] <davmor2> evand: I'll have a look after u-m was screwed yesterday so I need to re-test all of ubuntu
[10:02] <CIA-3> wubi: evand * r91 wubi.trunk/ (debian/changelog po/wubi.pot): Fixed a typo in the translation template.
[10:05] <davmor2> evand: is there a plan to add the password strength meter to wubi?
[10:06] <evand> davmor2: hrm, sounds like a good idea to me for Karmic.  Please file a wishlist bug.
[10:06] <davmor2> evand: I can't set that I'll do a bug though :)
[10:07] <evand> sure, just point me in the direction and I'll mark it as such
[10:10] <davmor2> bug 341616 hope that makes sense
[10:11] <evand> updated
[10:13] <davmor2> evand: also oem end user doesn't include it but oem user does which seems a bit backwards
[10:16] <evand> Can you rephrase that question, I don't follow.  Both ubiquity and oem-config support the weak password warning.
[10:20] <davmor2> evand: Right so oem user installing via ubiquity has the password strength.  Oem enduser I typed in a 7 letter password and it went through I can recheck with oem on alternate after for you.
[10:21] <evand> cjwatson_: any objection to me starting to move conversations regarding Wubi from private mails between myself and Ago to ubuntu-installer@?  My thought is that it would take Wubi development out of the dark and possibly encourage some more people to contribute.  Of course I'm happy to leave things as is if you think it's unnecessary noise on the list.
[10:23] <evand> davmor2: So to clarify, you typed a seven letter password on the user setup page in oem-config and it let you straight through?
[10:23] <davmor2> yes
[10:23] <evand> If you can confirm it, please file a bug.
[10:24] <davmor2> np's
[10:24] <evand> thanks
[10:28] <cjwatson_> davmor2: lvm> relief!
[10:28] <cjwatson> evand: no objections at all, makes sense
[10:28] <evand> wonderful
[10:29] <davmor2> cjwatson: I'll test an lvm over lvm in a bit :)
[10:30] <cjwatson> aha, and my dvd jigdo finished overnight
[10:32] <davmor2> evand: Doing alt oem now
[10:34] <evand> ok
[10:58] <CIA-3> wubi: evand * r92 trunk/ (debian/changelog src/pylauncher/pylauncher.exe.manifest): Require adminstrator privileges (LP: #340400). Thanks Agostino Russo!
[11:03] <davmor2> evand: I curios to hear your thoughts on win7
[11:04] <CIA-3> wubi: evand * r93 trunk/src/wubi/frontends/win32/uninstallation_finish_page.py: Whoops, change the translation in the correct place.
[11:04] <evand> davmor2: it's much cleaner than Windows Vista, and seems to be faster.
[11:07] <davmor2> evand: Good news I must just not of been awake this morning when I did the oem test.  £ cups of coffee latter I can see the password strength indicator :)
[11:07] <evand> great
[11:08] <davmor2> I must of just click on okay without thinking :)
[12:13] <davmor2> cjwatson_: running next lvm now cross your fingers :)
[12:20] <davmor2> cjwatson_: It's not died on removal this time so just addingto go
[12:22] <davmor2> cjwatson_: \o/ Yay it worked :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
[12:23] <cjwatson_> woohoo
[12:27] <tjaalton> lvm on multipath doesn't seem to work, but it's not that important right now :)
[12:41] <davmor2> evand: Is there a utc added to the ubiquity install now?  If not can there be?
[12:46] <evand> davmor2: it's too late for Jaunty, we can discuss it for Karmic though
[12:47] <davmor2> cool :)
[12:57] <cjwatson> isn't the option available in the advanced dialog?
[12:57] <cjwatson> if what you mean is "the ability to install a system and keep the hardware clock in UTC rather than local time"
[12:57] <cjwatson> oh, I suppose you might mean "install a system with the system clock in UTC"
[13:01] <davmor2> cjwatson: It was something that cgregan asked about.   He has loads of meetings world wide and in the end resorted to finding an african city that didn't have summer time
[13:12] <cjwatson> ah
[13:15] <davmor2> cjwatson: you can't add UTC to panel clock either so it's kind of a double fault I feel :)
[13:18] <evand> shtylman: the kde_ui.py code in your branch is broken.  It tries to add elements to the bar before it exists and even after fixing that, doesn't create bars for the manual partitioning and resize options.
[13:51] <Scix> Why won't applications in the ubuntu-restricted-extras meta package install when using preseeding? d-i pkgsel/include string ubuntu-restriced-extras.
[13:52] <evand> because that package is not in main
[13:53] <davmor2> Scix: Most of the packages are universe and mulitverse not main and restricted
[13:53] <davmor2> beat me to it
[13:54] <Scix> But when i manually ads the packages to this list, they are installed?
[13:55] <Scix> i tell mirror/udeb/components to use main, multiverse, restriced and universe
[13:56] <CIA-3> ubiquity: evand * r3091 ubiquity/ (3 files in 3 dirs):
[13:56] <CIA-3> ubiquity: Properly set the percent of each partition in the segmented_bar on the
[13:56] <CIA-3> ubiquity: advanced page (LP: #334826).
[13:59] <cjwatson> Scix: mirror/udeb/components is irrelevant because ubuntu-restricted-extras is not a udeb. In any case you shouldn't have to do that
[13:59] <cjwatson> Scix: what version of Ubuntu are you installing? I thought we fixed this problem in hardy
[13:59] <Scix> im installing intrepid
[14:00] <cjwatson> Scix: I'd like to see logs; the final sources.list is moved into place before processing pkgsel/include so this ought to work
[14:01] <Scix> cjwatson: i have a test installation running now. you can have the log when it's done
[14:31] <Scix> cjwatson, you can see the syslog from the installation at http://dev.sovetid.com/syslog
[14:32] <Scix> but i have another more serious problem. How can i enable restricted driver modules by script? I installed linux-restriced-modules and xorg-driver-fglrx, but the driver did non get activated
[14:33] <Scix> this is crusal, sense i have 200 computers that this has to be done automatically
[14:33] <cjwatson> you'd have to ask pitti that
[14:33] <cjwatson> I think there is some way but I don't know the details
[14:34] <Scix> cjwatson, pitti?
[14:35] <cjwatson> yes, the developer of the "Hardware Drivers" application
[14:36] <CIA-3> ubiquity: cjwatson * r3092 ubiquity/ (debian/changelog scripts/install.py): (log message trimmed)
[14:36] <CIA-3> ubiquity: * Expand dependencies of packages we know we want to keep (language packs,
[14:36] <CIA-3> ubiquity:  etc.) before calculating which packages to blacklist from file copying
[14:36] <CIA-3> ubiquity:  or to remove. This is more correct in the presence of Recommends of
[14:36] <CIA-3> ubiquity:  language packs, and furthermore saves considerable time when
[14:36] <CIA-3> ubiquity:  blacklisting. My test results for various language pack sets:
[14:36] <CIA-3> ubiquity:  - en: 4:00 -> 3:30
[14:37] <evand> very nice
[14:42] <cjwatson> evand: CIA cut off the changelog message, but the last timing is the impressive one :)
[14:43] <cjwatson> if you keep all language packs installed, generate_blacklist's time goes from 14+ minutes to 10 seconds
[14:44] <evand> wow
[14:44] <evand> awesome
[15:23] <CIA-3> ubiquity: cjwatson * r3093 ubiquity/debian/changelog: test results for last commit were on a DVD
[15:55] <mdz> can you tell me about bug 334341?  apparently it's been wreaking some havoc with hardware compatibility testing
[15:56] <mdz> at least, that's the bug# that I was given.  it's filed against ubiquity, though the compat testing uses d-i
[15:57] <davmor2> evand: the map on dvd is well out, has it not received on of the updates?
[15:57] <cjwatson> mdz: should be resolved now
[15:57] <cjwatson> mdz: unless you have reports of it happening on today's images
[15:57] <cjwatson> mdz: (it's one of many reports, which is why the status is not up to date)
[15:57] <evand> davmor2: no, I haven't released that version of ubiquity yet as we're in freeze for the alpha.
[15:58] <cjwatson> mdz: it was due to race conditions between udev and the partitioner, exacerbated by the recent addition of inotify watches on devices in udevd generating change events
[15:58] <cjwatson> mdz: earlier this week, Scott took time out from other work at my request to fix udevadm settle to wait for all inotify activity to complete
[15:59] <davmor2> evand: Okay.  It's just on cd london was somewhere near england but on dvd it's about a 2 minute walk from Barcelona :)
[15:59] <cjwatson> mdz: and I added a bunch more locking to the partitioner; testers have reported that this has cleared up the observable problems for them
[16:00] <mdz> cjwatson: thanks
[16:00] <mdz> cjwatson: can you give me the master bug number?
[16:00] <cjwatson> mdz: Charlie is right, though; Ronald should file a new bug with his logs if it's reproducible with today's images, rather than tagging along to bug 334341
[16:00] <cjwatson> mdz: I'd rather not, because there have been multiple instances of this which have in fact been different underlying problems
[16:00] <cjwatson> I don't want people duplicating them all together and then having to disentangle them later
[16:01] <mdz> cjwatson: I'm not aware of any problem with the current images.  there has been a bug which has devastated our ability to do hardware testing, and I'm trying to establish which one it is and whether it is in fact fixed
[16:01] <cjwatson> mdz: the most recent instance was bug 341046, but I'd prefer that bugs not be duplicated against that without detailed investigation
[16:01] <mdz> I guess we'll find out with alpha 6 if it's gone
[16:01] <cjwatson> mdz: it wasn't just LVM, though, and the udev problem was fixed without a bug number in the changelog; cf. udev 139-2
[16:02] <cjwatson> the previous incident that affected alpha-5 was bug 334278, and presented with almost identical symptoms
[16:03] <cjwatson> mdz: I'm happy to work with fader directly if he's still encountering problems, and that would probably be the most efficient approach
[16:05] <mdz> cjwatson: I'm copying you into a thread now
[16:06] <davmor2> cjwatson, mdz: I think cr3 was asking about this last night wasn't he?
[16:06] <cr3> davmor2: that's alright, I'll gladly delegate to fader
[16:12] <mdz> davmor2: it's possible...fader said he had asked about it here
[16:16] <davmor2> mdz: I can confirm I've had no issues with todays images at any rate.  Even lvm encrypted over lvm which throw a paddy on Monday and yesterday has worked fine today :)
[16:19] <mdz> davmor2: that's good to hear, thanks
[16:53] <CIA-3> ubiquity: evand * r3094 ubiquity/ (debian/changelog ubiquity/frontend/gtk_ui.py):
[16:53] <CIA-3> ubiquity: Clean up the code around handling a partitioning choice change.
[16:53] <CIA-3> ubiquity: Show the format warning when the disk is automatically selected
[16:53] <CIA-3> ubiquity: (LP: #335704).
[22:56] <CIA-3> ubiquity: evand * r3095 ubiquity/ (d-i/manifest debian/changelog):
[22:56] <CIA-3> ubiquity: Automatic update of included source packages: base-installer
[22:56] <CIA-3> ubiquity: 1.98ubuntu3.
[22:57] <CIA-3> ubiquity: evand * r3096 ubiquity/debian/changelog: Arr. Move changelog entry to the right place.
[23:11] <CIA-3> ubiquity: evand * r3097 ubiquity/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.11.17
[23:31] <CIA-3> wubi: Agostino Russo * r94 trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs):
[23:31] <CIA-3> wubi: * Fixed typo in translatable string (LP: #341680)
[23:31] <CIA-3> wubi: * No need to make a log message translatable