| fta | JayPee, Mook_sb, stevel: http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/songbird-1.1.1.png thanks for your help guys. | 00:04 |
|---|---|---|
| Mook_sb | yay! | 00:05 |
| stevel | woot! | 00:05 |
| Mook_sb | stevel: s/w/p/ | 00:05 |
| * stevel notices missing servicepane icons for SHOUTcast & Concerts | 00:05 | |
| stevel | disabled extensions due to update i suppose | 00:05 |
| JayPee | I didn't you know you guys build with --enable-official | 00:06 |
| fta | yeah, addon updates are damn slow | 00:06 |
| fta | it's a release, not a random snapshot so why not? | 00:06 |
| fta | we do the same for all products | 00:07 |
| JayPee | because it turns on things that don't make sense, and are confusing for users | 00:07 |
| JayPee | i.e. build number, for one | 00:07 |
| JayPee | but I suspect I'm probably the only one that cares about such things. | 00:07 |
| fta | it's not in the archive anyway so it's still a limited community :( | 00:07 |
| JayPee | fta: yeah; why is that again? | 00:08 |
| * JayPee forgot | 00:08 | |
| JayPee | XR issues? | 00:08 |
| fta | for not using the system xulrunner | 00:08 |
| fta | yes | 00:08 |
| JayPee | gotcha | 00:09 |
| JayPee | fta: well, if you use this system, I don't imagine it'll change too much more. | 00:09 |
| JayPee | so you shouldn't have to fight with it again. | 00:09 |
| fta | ? what do you mean? | 00:09 |
| JayPee | fta: earlier, you said "at each milestone, every changes, so i'm back to square one, it's frustrating, at best." I'm saying this isn't slated to change much more, if at all. | 00:12 |
| stevel | fta: i think he means the vendor build stuff... the build system shouldn't be changing | 00:12 |
| JayPee | so you shouldn't have to spend this much time on it again. | 00:12 |
| fta | ok, good to know | 00:13 |
| JayPee | but, if you do run into problems, it would be helpful if you filed a bug | 00:13 |
| JayPee | maybe there are some things we can make easier | 00:13 |
| JayPee | fta: I will let you know now, though, I'm working on a new core build system... | 00:14 |
| JayPee | so *that's* going to change... ;-) | 00:14 |
| fta | yeah, i know nothing is stable but this package is one of the most complex i ever created | 00:14 |
| fta | mozilla is trivial in comparison | 00:15 |
| JayPee | what makes it so complicated for you? | 00:15 |
| fta | even chromium, with the same arches, 10 times your number of deps, and >10 times the volume of sources is just a svn co + scons from a running binary nowadays | 00:16 |
| JayPee | that didn't really answer my question | 00:17 |
| fta | nm, it's been a long day. a 300 lines debian/rules file is not qualified as easy, but i wrote it so i'm partially at fault too. | 00:19 |
| fta | it's 1:20am here | 00:20 |
| JayPee | heh | 00:20 |
| JayPee | one of *those* days | 00:20 |
| JayPee | well, if you want to provide specifics, I will be happy to see if we can address some of them | 00:20 |
| JayPee | I've already been able to help address some of OpenSolaris' problems | 00:20 |
| JayPee | not all of them, but some of them | 00:20 |
| JayPee | but I can't if I don't know about them | 00:20 |
| JayPee | and I don't follow this channel religiously ;-) | 00:21 |
| fta | i don't have real showstoppers, until now, i managed. it's just that it has so many steps, knobs, env vars, etc, that it's scary for eventual (packaging) contributors | 00:24 |
| JayPee | well, I think you're complaining about the lack of documentation | 00:27 |
| JayPee | because the vast majority of those knobs and env vars exist precisely for packagers | 00:27 |
| JayPee | well, vast majority is probably an overstatement | 00:27 |
| JayPee | but many of them | 00:27 |
| fta | do you have a make install now? | 00:32 |
| JayPee | no | 00:34 |
| fta | that would sure help | 00:35 |
| JayPee | hrm; does Firefox have one? | 00:36 |
| JayPee | (you should file bugs on things you care about) | 00:36 |
| fta | firefox, xul, and most moz products have one | 00:39 |
| JayPee | yes, along with most open source packages | 00:40 |
| === asac_ is now known as asac | ||
| fta | asac, http://paste.ubuntu.com/130006/ (with timeout at 4000, and novj novjccomp in /etc/ppp/options - which are apparently ignored) | 01:40 |
| === fabrice_sp_ is now known as fabrice_sp | ||
| asac | fta: can you please tell me what you have set as APN, username/password for your connection? | 09:10 |
| fta | hi | 09:26 |
| fta | asac, what do you mean? | 09:26 |
| asac | fta: did you use the broadband wizard? | 09:28 |
| asac | to setup the connections? | 09:28 |
| asac | or are you using "Auto GSM" connections? | 09:28 |
| asac | seems you use auto | 09:28 |
| asac | fta: use the broadband wizard please | 09:28 |
| asac | install libmbca0 ... remove your configured connections .... replug the key to make it pop up | 09:28 |
| fta | i don't remember. i think i just plugged the key in, it asks me to unlock the gnome keyring, enter the pin, and that's it | 09:29 |
| fta | asked | 09:29 |
| asac | fta: yes. seems you didnt install the recommends | 09:29 |
| asac | fta: we ship | 09:29 |
| asac | so you have the auto connection stuff | 09:29 |
| asac | which relies on good sim state | 09:29 |
| asac | use the broadband wizard | 09:29 |
| fta | my laptop is supposed to have everything installed. i only drop nm on my desktops & servers | 09:30 |
| asac | fta: yes, but seems you didnt install libmbca0 | 09:30 |
| asac | even though its recommends of network-manager-gnome | 09:31 |
| asac | fta: install it please | 09:31 |
| asac | then remove all 3g configureations and use that ;) | 09:31 |
| asac | your issue is most likely because you have no username/password/APN information in the auto connection ... which then relies on the SIM. we checked reports of users that had the same symptoms ppp-wise and their problem was always a missing APN or username/password | 09:32 |
| asac | its a bit hard to explain why this might go away after some time, but dan said, that can easily happen | 09:32 |
| fta | i always update using apt-get, am i supposed to get recommends that way? | 09:33 |
| asac | fta: only if you never run plain upgrade | 09:34 |
| asac | upgrade deselects recommends | 09:34 |
| asac | thats a bug i think | 09:34 |
| asac | if you use apt-get you must always run dist-upgrade | 09:34 |
| asac | at least to get the recommends ;) | 09:35 |
| fta | done | 09:40 |
| fta | same | 09:40 |
| fta | pppd_timed_out() | 09:40 |
| gnomefreak | is there a timer that counts down? | 09:42 |
| asac | fta: the pppd_timed_out is a different issue than what you had yesterday | 09:44 |
| asac | gnomefreak: where? | 09:45 |
| fta | asac, it's there since i turned the 2000 into 4000 as you requested | 09:45 |
| gnomefreak | asac: in repos. i have only found timers that count up, example: the ones i found you set timer and it starts at 0 and neds at time you set. I'm looking for one ethat when you set it for say 1 hour it starts at 1hr and ends at time you set | 09:47 |
| asac | fta: hmm | 09:47 |
| asac | fta: that is completely unrelated to this | 09:47 |
| asac | fta: where did you add the delay? | 09:47 |
| asac | not in the udev rules? | 09:48 |
| fta | hm, i don't remember where it was | 09:51 |
| fta | oh, in /lib/udev/rules.d/77-nm-probe-modem-capabilities.rules | 09:52 |
| fta | that's what you asked, right? | 09:53 |
| fta | asac, http://paste.ubuntu.com/130096/ | 09:55 |
| asac | fta: yeah. but that only influences the HAL vs. UDEV detection | 10:09 |
| asac | fta: please look in the connection | 10:09 |
| asac | is there a password/username set? | 10:09 |
| asac | fta: oh. and thats with novj* or did you remove those lines again? | 10:10 |
| asac | (remove them if they didnt help) | 10:10 |
| BUGabundo | asac: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/329798 | 10:17 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 329798 in network-manager "NM will not connect to FON AP" [Undecided,New] | 10:17 |
| BUGabundo | seems to be fixed with lattests NM | 10:17 |
| asac | thanks | 10:18 |
| asac | just close it then. hopefully it was a driver fix | 10:18 |
| BUGabundo | dunno | 10:19 |
| BUGabundo | waiting for someone else to confirm it | 10:19 |
| BUGabundo | it can be just a fluke | 10:19 |
| BUGabundo | or even FON specific | 10:19 |
| asac | BUGabundo: is that a "a", "g" or "n" access point? | 10:26 |
| BUGabundo | G | 10:29 |
| BUGabundo | asac: fta: I have a few apport traces from FF3.1 crashs | 10:38 |
| BUGabundo | but apport will not file them cause they are PPA and not archive | 10:39 |
| BUGabundo | do you guys want me to pastebin / email them? | 10:39 |
| asac | BUGabundo: please retrace them locally | 11:02 |
| asac | and file the good stacktrace | 11:02 |
| asac | that comes out of it | 11:03 |
| BUGabundo | ah? | 11:04 |
| BUGabundo | retrace? how do I do that asac? | 11:05 |
| BUGabundo | apport-retrace maybe? | 11:05 |
| asac | BUGabundo: use apport-unpack | 11:06 |
| asac | run gdb against the coredump | 11:06 |
| asac | that gets out of it | 11:06 |
| asac | and get a backtrace that way | 11:06 |
| asac | sorry no time to explain in depth | 11:06 |
| asac | you need to install xulrunner ... -dbg and firefox -dbg also the dbgsym packages from elsewhere | 11:07 |
| BUGabundo | yeah ... I noticed | 11:07 |
| BUGabundo | let me get those | 11:07 |
| asac | -dbgsym for the depends of xulrunner | 11:07 |
| asac | BUGabundo: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Bugs#Obtain%20a%20backtrace%20from%20an%20apport%20crash%20report%20%28using%20gdb%29 | 11:09 |
| asac | its a bit outdated but gives an idea | 11:09 |
| asac | outdated == the packages listed there are probably not right | 11:09 |
| BUGabundo | ok | 11:10 |
| BUGabundo | thanks | 11:10 |
| BUGabundo | I still think this is the usual one | 11:10 |
| BUGabundo | of opening a new window | 11:10 |
| BUGabundo | but it doesn't happen everytime | 11:10 |
| BUGabundo | 480MiBs of dbg packages... xiiii | 11:12 |
| asac | thats how it is ,) | 11:12 |
| BUGabundo | asac: should I change the command to force 3.1, and not 3.0 as default? | 11:14 |
| BUGabundo | any idea why instaling libc6-dbg remove libc6-dbgsym? | 11:20 |
| BUGabundo | No symbol table info available. | 11:23 |
| BUGabundo | humm | 11:23 |
| BUGabundo | what did I miss? | 11:24 |
| BUGabundo | asac: http://paste.ubuntu.com/130114/ | 11:24 |
| asac | BUGabundo: how did you run gdb? | 11:56 |
| BUGabundo | yes | 11:56 |
| BUGabundo | I run the command from the wiki | 11:56 |
| asac | BUGabundo: adapt it for firefox-3.1 | 11:56 |
| BUGabundo | and just got http://paste.ubuntu.com/130114/ | 11:56 |
| BUGabundo | I did it too | 11:56 |
| BUGabundo | both ways | 11:56 |
| asac | install all the gdbs | 11:56 |
| asac | err -dbg | 11:56 |
| asac | and -dbgsym | 11:56 |
| BUGabundo | that too | 11:56 |
| BUGabundo | I think | 11:56 |
| BUGabundo | ahh ok | 11:57 |
| asac | for firefox-3.1 and xulrunner-1.9.1 | 11:57 |
| BUGabundo | on #ubuntu-bugs seb said that (on some cases) both can't be installed | 11:57 |
| BUGabundo | at least for glibc6 | 11:57 |
| BUGabundo | there are no dbgsym for 3.1 on the daily ppa | 11:57 |
| asac | BUGabundo: xulrunner and firefox have -dbg packages | 12:02 |
| asac | no -dbgsym | 12:02 |
| asac | we introduced that jsut for that reason | 12:03 |
| BUGabundo | yeah | 12:10 |
| BUGabundo | I know | 12:10 |
| BUGabundo | ppas don't build them | 12:10 |
| BUGabundo | but I have all of the dbg install | 12:10 |
| BUGabundo | I think | 12:10 |
| BUGabundo | wanna see a dkpg -l to be sure? | 12:10 |
| BUGabundo | asac: ^^^^^ | 12:12 |
| asac | BUGabundo: dpkg -l firefox\* | 12:13 |
| asac | BUGabundo: dpkg -l xulrunner\* | 12:13 |
| asac | thats what i want to see | 12:13 |
| asac | and the exact command line you use | 12:13 |
| BUGabundo | asac: trysystem.teste@slavi.com.pt | 12:20 |
| BUGabundo | rofl | 12:20 |
| BUGabundo | wrong paste | 12:20 |
| BUGabundo | http://paste.ubuntu.com/130128/ | 12:20 |
| BUGabundo | http://paste.ubuntu.com/130129/ | 12:21 |
| asac | and the command? | 12:24 |
| BUGabundo | $ gdb -nx /usr/lib/firefox/firefox-bin -core $TMPDIR/CoreDump -ex 'backtrace full' -ex 'thread apply all backtrace full' -ex 'quit' 2>&1 | tee gdb.log | 12:27 |
| BUGabundo | and $ gdb -nx /usr/lib/firefox-3.1b4pre/firefox-bin -core $TMPDIR/CoreDump -ex 'backtrace full' -ex 'thread apply all backtrace full' -ex 'quit' 2>&1 | tee gdb.log | 12:28 |
| fta2 | james_w, i was used to have the build area printed when doing bzr bd --merge -e, useful to go work in build-area. now, it's gone. could you put it back please? | 15:43 |
| fta2 | james_w, also, when working on fixing a tarball, i realized that bd no longer takes the tarball in the specified directory if there's one in the build-area dir, even if it's different, it's annoying :P | 15:45 |
| fta2 | and confusing | 15:45 |
| fta2 | BUGabundo, script -f gdb.log and firefox-3.x -g is what you need | 16:01 |
| BUGabundo | calm down! lol | 16:01 |
| BUGabundo | say again!? | 16:01 |
| BUGabundo | fta2? | 16:02 |
| fta2 | script to capture everything: man script | 16:02 |
| fta2 | and firefox-3.x -g to run it under gdb | 16:03 |
| fta2 | while inside script | 16:03 |
| === jetsaredim1 is now known as jetsaredim | ||
| BUGabundo | ok | 16:18 |
| BUGabundo | fta2 I'll get back to you latter | 16:18 |
| BUGabundo | debuging cheese/v4l now | 16:19 |
| BUGabundo | fta3 it's the 3rd time today FF crashes on me | 16:21 |
| fta2 | hm, 3.2 is very stable for me | 16:22 |
| fta2 | both 32 and 64 | 16:22 |
| BUGabundo | not today | 16:25 |
| BUGabundo | never have this happen so many times | 16:25 |
| BUGabundo | daily build | 16:25 |
| BUGabundo | no new addons | 16:25 |
| BUGabundo | that's why I wanted to provided the trace | 16:25 |
| BUGabundo | to see if its something new or known | 16:25 |
| BUGabundo | entire windows get closed | 16:26 |
| BUGabundo | and other stay working | 16:26 |
| BUGabundo | strange | 16:26 |
| BUGabundo | now that I have a few minutes, fta2 | 16:26 |
| BUGabundo | can you tell me in baby steps | 16:26 |
| BUGabundo | what I need to retrace the apport crash for you? | 16:26 |
| BUGabundo | asac is gonna either kiss me or kill me! | 16:32 |
| BUGabundo | gonna start a fresh profile on 3.2 and start installing all my addon one by one | 16:33 |
| BUGabundo | and see if I can get read of some of this nasty bugs | 16:33 |
| asac | fta2: i actually asked james_w to add a way to print the used dirs | 16:34 |
| asac | fta2: e.g. gimme tarballs dir, gimme builds dir ... gimme resutls dir | 16:34 |
| asac | fta2: he wont fixed it :/ | 16:34 |
| fta2 | why? | 16:37 |
| * BUGabundo because he is a bad bad boy... hit the drums | 16:42 | |
| fta2 | i think i should roll up my own bd clone, with all i want in it :P | 16:45 |
| fta2 | it's supposed to be an helper, not a burden | 16:54 |
| asac | fta2: 308276 ... i asked to reconsider now | 16:57 |
| fta2 | bug 308276 | 16:58 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 308276 in bzr-builddeb "add option dump user-config directories" [Undecided,Won't fix] https://launchpad.net/bugs/308276 | 16:58 |
| asac | another comnet added | 16:58 |
| fta2 | http://launchpadlibrarian.net/23781828/buildlog_ubuntu-jaunty-lpia.firefox-3.1_3.1~b4~hg20090311r23764%2Bnobinonly-0ubuntu1~umd1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz | 16:58 |
| fta2 | why only lpia/jaunty ?? and only 3.1? | 16:59 |
| fta2 | asac, btw, prism? | 16:59 |
| asac | on my list. | 16:59 |
| asac | ok out to get some food et al | 17:00 |
| mbana | who builds firefox? i've got problems with the fonts | 17:07 |
| mbana | it's ignoring my .fonts.conf | 17:07 |
| asac | mbana: ffox 3? | 17:57 |
| asac | i want nfs back | 18:23 |
| asac | plzzzz | 18:23 |
| asac | help | 18:23 |
| mbana_ | asac: yes | 19:08 |
| asac | mbana_: can you test firefox-3.1 please | 19:10 |
| asac | mbana_: which parts of fonts.conf are not honoured? just hinting? | 19:11 |
| mbana_ | the default firefox install on ubuntu 8.10 | 19:11 |
| asac | mbana_: i know | 19:11 |
| mbana_ | sorry | 19:11 |
| asac | ;) | 19:11 |
| mbana_ | 3.0.6 rather | 19:11 |
| asac | mbana_: you should get latest security updates ;) ... 3.0.7 it should be | 19:12 |
| mbana_ | http://pastebin.com/d334a7f86 | 19:12 |
| asac | but thats independent | 19:12 |
| mbana_ | ignores that | 19:12 |
| mbana_ | well, it ignores Arial and Helvetica* | 19:12 |
| mbana_ | entire file; http://pastebin.com/d5a286f45 | 19:13 |
| mbana_ | try it yourself | 19:13 |
| asac | mbana_: ls /etc/fonts/conf.d please | 19:13 |
| asac | mbana_: running gnome or what? | 19:13 |
| mbana_ | http://pastebin.com/d18ab9cbe | 19:14 |
| mbana_ | yes | 19:14 |
| mbana_ | i installed kde briefly but i got rid of it | 19:14 |
| mbana_ | it's been like this ever since the install | 19:15 |
| asac | mbana_: i think it doesnt use your fontconfig because it uses the gnome settings | 19:15 |
| asac | mbana_: check preferences -> appearence -> fonts | 19:15 |
| mbana_ | firefox? | 19:15 |
| mbana_ | but shouldn't it also look at .fonts.conf? | 19:15 |
| asac | mbana_: well. there is a bug that all gtk/gnome apps dont honour fontconfig because gnome forces its settings upon it | 19:16 |
| mbana_ | see the problem is; some fonts shouldn't be fully hinted, such as the MS fonts. they need to be hinted slightly | 19:16 |
| asac | mbana_: firefox-3.1 honours fontconfig and ignores gnome | 19:16 |
| asac | (which is also considered a bug) | 19:16 |
| mbana_ | haha | 19:16 |
| asac | mbana_: true. and its on my agenda to get the right fix for 9.10 | 19:16 |
| mbana_ | how do i get the one that honours fontconfig? | 19:17 |
| asac | mbana_: the gnome font stuff is really amazing. i never dived into fonts until folks complained that firefox 3.1 renders badly (because it used our fontconfig defaults suddenly) | 19:17 |
| asac | mbana_: we currently only have dailies for firefox 3.1 - its still not final | 19:17 |
| asac | mbana_: its quite safe to use ... as it uses a copy of your profile | 19:17 |
| mbana_ | ok, do you have instructions for compiling FF? | 19:17 |
| asac | mbana_: in jaunty we have firefox-3.1 package | 19:17 |
| asac | mbana_: i would suggest to use our dailies. otherwise build xulrunner-1.9.1 and firefox-3.1 from jaunty | 19:18 |
| asac | on intrepid | 19:18 |
| asac | or wait | 19:18 |
| asac | fta: do you have milestone builds in your ppa still? | 19:18 |
| asac | for intrepid/hardy?` | 19:18 |
| mbana_ | hold on; are you saying i should use 3.1 from backports? | 19:18 |
| asac | mbana_: no its not in backports. ubuntu mozillateam runs their own archives | 19:18 |
| asac | at least i think its not in backports ;) | 19:19 |
| mbana_ | Version 3.0.7+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.8.10.1: is the latest | 19:19 |
| asac | https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ppa | 19:19 |
| asac | there is 3.1 daily and even 3.2 (trunk) | 19:19 |
| asac | 3.1 is more or less at beta state | 19:19 |
| asac | so should be quite bug free | 19:19 |
| asac | extensions might not work | 19:19 |
| asac | mbana_: our packages allow you to run both (3.0 and 3.1) in parallel | 19:20 |
| asac | without risking to trash your 3.0 profile | 19:20 |
| mbana_ | ok i'll give it a try | 19:20 |
| asac | so we do a copy of your 3.0 profile on first start of 3.1 and when 3.1 becomes default we will ask you which profile you want to continue to use | 19:20 |
| asac | mbana_: yeah. just check if the fontstuff works better | 19:21 |
| asac | mbana_: whether you iuse it later or not is your decision ;) | 19:21 |
| asac | i even run 3.2 dailies here | 19:21 |
| asac | ;) | 19:21 |
| asac | and issuse are quite rare | 19:21 |
| asac | mbana_: also if there are regressions in 3.1 over 3.0, we want to know | 19:22 |
| asac | thats why we provide such builds: get testing and get stuff fixed so that 3.1 final is the best firefox release ever | 19:22 |
| mbana_ | http://pastebin.com/d3ea296a6 | 19:30 |
| mbana_ | never had that before | 19:30 |
| mbana_ | imported the keys | 19:31 |
| asac | mbana_: those should be in there | 19:31 |
| asac | mbana_: if you add the archive to your sources.list and run apt-get install it should work | 19:31 |
| mbana_ | deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-mozilla-daily/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main | 19:31 |
| asac | mbana_: err. you are on intrepid ;) | 19:31 |
| mbana_ | i added that | 19:31 |
| mbana_ | no ... i thought | 19:31 |
| asac | mbana_: on the ppa page there is a combobox | 19:31 |
| mbana_ | ah crap | 19:31 |
| mbana_ | thanks | 19:31 |
| asac | mbana_: lsb_release -a | 19:32 |
| asac | that will tell you what you have ;) | 19:32 |
| asac | mbana_: welcome | 19:32 |
| mbana_ | should i close firefox? | 19:33 |
| asac | mbana_: for the very first start that might make sense | 19:33 |
| asac | mbana_: otherwise you dont need to | 19:33 |
| asac | of course depends on the amount of mem available | 19:34 |
| asac | ;) | 19:34 |
| asac | mbana_: so maybe you dont have any subpixel rendering except for the stuff you have in your .fonts.conf | 19:35 |
| asac | mbana_: problem is that your config is configured to use no-subpixel | 19:35 |
| mbana_ | no i've got it enabled in gnome, it's just that the MS fonts need special care | 19:35 |
| asac | at best run dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig-config once and select the topmost everywhere | 19:35 |
| asac | mbana_: well. firefox doesnt honour the stuff gnome says in 3.1 | 19:35 |
| asac | mbana_: so it takes your default conf | 19:35 |
| asac | mbana_: which currently is "no-subpixel" + subpixel for the stuff in your fonts.conf | 19:36 |
| asac | mbana_: but thats really just because your fontconfig-config got stuck at some point at a bad default. we will fix that in fontconfig soon | 19:36 |
| asac | mbana_: the problem is the 10-no-subpixel.conf in http://pastebin.com/d18ab9cbe | 19:37 |
| asac | mbana_: you can remove that manually or run the dpkg-reconfigure from above | 19:37 |
| mbana_ | that's reversible right? | 19:39 |
| asac | mbana_: the dpkg-reconfigure? | 19:39 |
| mbana_ | yes | 19:39 |
| asac | mbana_: well. it touches 3 files in the confs.d directory | 19:39 |
| asac | mbana_: if you select the topmost its what you always want | 19:39 |
| asac | mbana_: your current state is best described in "trapped in some old state" ;) | 19:39 |
| asac | mbana_: reverting is only possible by selecting the same values you now have there ... but doing so will revert | 19:40 |
| asac | mbana_: otherwise just move the 10-no-subpixel.conf away | 19:40 |
| asac | mbana_: actually move all the 10-* links away if yo do that manually. all those will die anyway | 19:41 |
| asac | mbana_: if you see problems in other apps because of that let me know | 19:41 |
| mbana_ | http://pastebin.com/de9cbc86 | 19:41 |
| asac | i plan to remove them anyway ;) | 19:41 |
| mbana_ | after the run | 19:41 |
| asac | mbana_: yeah right. the other 10-* things are hard installed (bad!) ... removing that would help me to debug if there is collateral damage ;) | 19:42 |
| asac | i wouldnt expect it to make a difference. all gtk apps use the gnome settings anyway | 19:42 |
| asac | everything else will do the right thing depending on monitor and will use your fonts.conf for tweakage | 19:43 |
| asac | unfortunately gtk is used almost everywhere in gnome. so firefox-3.1 is probably the only place to verify that | 19:43 |
| mbana_ | is a restart needed after i change .fonts.conf? | 19:46 |
| asac | mbana_: of firefox-3.1? | 19:47 |
| mbana_ | yes | 19:47 |
| asac | mbana_: zooming in and out does the trick for me | 19:47 |
| asac | gtk apps (when gtk is fixed) just update instantly | 19:47 |
| asac | but i dont have the fixed gtk uploaded somewhere | 19:47 |
| mbana_ | http://wiki.hudson-ci.org/display/HUDSON/Meet+Hudson check this out | 19:47 |
| mbana_ | i'll show you my screen | 19:48 |
| mbana_ | http://yfrog.com/0mscreenshotmeethudsonhudp | 19:49 |
| mbana_ | look at the fonts on the headlines etc | 19:49 |
| mbana_ | perfect cris[ | 19:49 |
| mbana_ | crisp | 19:49 |
| asac | mbana_: so the vision is that once we have fixed the gtk/fontconfig mess, we will tweak individual fonts and ship sane default config for them in the respective font packages ;) | 19:49 |
| jneves | asac: which files should I start with for a pt-PT translation of ubufox? | 19:49 |
| asac | jneves: copy the pt-PT tree and translate all | 19:49 |
| asac | jneves: otherwise just work through file by file | 19:50 |
| asac | jneves: you can test by building the xpi using sh build.sh | 19:50 |
| asac | and install it through firefox | 19:50 |
| jneves | asac: ok - regarding the Tranduzir vs Traduzir in pt-BR - do you need a patch? | 19:50 |
| asac | mbana_: what issues do you see? | 19:51 |
| mbana_ | how are the fonts on your machie | 19:52 |
| mbana_ | i don't think that anti-aliased | 19:53 |
| mbana_ | it's Arial i believe | 19:53 |
| mbana_ | or Helvetica | 19:53 |
| asac | let me check something | 19:54 |
| mbana_ | <match target="pattern" name="family" > | 19:55 |
| mbana_ | <test name="family" qual="any" > | 19:55 |
| mbana_ | <string>Arial</string> | 19:55 |
| mbana_ | </test> | 19:55 |
| mbana_ | <edit mode="assign" name="family" > | 19:55 |
| mbana_ | <!-- Other choices - Andale Mono, Courier New, Luxi Mono, Bitstream Vera Sans Mono --> | 19:55 |
| mbana_ | <string>Tahoma</string> | 19:55 |
| mbana_ | </edit> | 19:55 |
| mbana_ | </match> | 19:55 |
| mbana_ | that's also ignored | 19:55 |
| mbana_ | it works fine in gedit | 19:55 |
| mbana_ | i'll take a snapshot of the two side-by-side | 19:55 |
| mbana_ | it replaces Arial with Tahoma | 19:56 |
| asac | mbana_: are those ttf fonts? | 19:56 |
| mbana_ | for sure | 19:56 |
| asac | mbana_: i am not really sure. i dont use windows fonts | 19:56 |
| asac | mbana_: ok so autohinting makes sense | 19:57 |
| asac | mbana_: hmm | 19:57 |
| asac | mbana_: here it reads: "for bitstream vera and most microsoft fonts you should native hinting" (e.g. not autohinting) | 19:57 |
| asac | mbana_: so remove the autohint stuff from your fonts.conf | 19:58 |
| mbana_ | <edit mode="assign" name="autohint" > | 19:58 |
| mbana_ | <bool>false</bool> | 19:58 |
| mbana_ | </edit> | 19:58 |
| asac | mbana_: yes. the one you pasted had true | 19:58 |
| mbana_ | do you have a site of-hand that uses Arial | 19:58 |
| asac | mbana_: just remove it completely | 19:58 |
| mbana_ | ok i'll try again | 19:58 |
| asac | mbana_: also you shouldnt need the rgba thing. thats autodetected from monitor | 20:00 |
| asac | mbana_: same for antialias i would think and hinting. so just hintslight | 20:00 |
| asac | as hintstyle is thing you want to change for the fonts in question, right? | 20:01 |
| mbana_ | do you know of a site using Arial | 20:04 |
| asac | no clue ;) | 20:04 |
| mbana_ | about:config doesn't have an anti aliasing options does it? | 20:05 |
| asac | mbana_: no | 20:05 |
| asac | mbana_: so now there is no antialiasing? | 20:05 |
| mbana_ | my font config must be a mess | 20:05 |
| mbana_ | too much stuff | 20:06 |
| asac | mbana_: what is "your font config"? | 20:06 |
| asac | i would think its just .fonts.conf | 20:06 |
| mbana_ | .fonts.confg | 20:06 |
| mbana_ | conf | 20:06 |
| asac | mbana_: how does it look now? | 20:06 |
| mbana_ | this is best illustrated via an example | 20:07 |
| mbana_ | it's pointless for me to explain | 20:07 |
| mbana_ | because the difference is huge | 20:07 |
| mbana_ | one sec | 20:07 |
| mbana_ | ok i tihnk i got one | 20:08 |
| mbana_ | oh god | 20:08 |
| mbana_ | it's working now | 20:08 |
| mbana_ | my eyes :) | 20:09 |
| mbana_ | wannan see the differnece? | 20:09 |
| asac | mbana_: hehe | 20:10 |
| asac | mbana_: show | 20:10 |
| asac | mbana_: also post your fonts.conf please | 20:10 |
| mbana_ | http://yfrog.com/7escreenshotop | 20:11 |
| asac | mbana_: if they restrict stuff properly for only the affected fonts, please file a bug against fontconfig-config so we can consider that when fixing the font mess | 20:11 |
| mbana_ | brb | 20:11 |
| mbana_ | thanks | 20:12 |
| mbana_ | hold on | 20:12 |
| asac | mbana_: so 3.1 is good and 3.0 is bad in that screen? | 20:12 |
| asac | mbana_: please subscribe me explitily to the fontconfig bug | 20:13 |
| asac | my nick is asac too in launchpad | 20:13 |
| mbana_ | asac: yes | 20:17 |
| mbana_ | i love the blur effect | 20:17 |
| mbana_ | asac: http://pastebin.com/d1f4291b1. but i'm still modifying it | 20:18 |
| asac | mbana_: you can also test that stuff with pango-view i would think (use cairo backend) | 20:19 |
| asac | mbana_: e.g. if you want to test specific font | 20:19 |
| jneves_ | asac: pt-PT translation available at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubufox/+bug/341931 | 20:19 |
| asac | specific size etc | 20:19 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 341931 in ubufox "ubufox doesn't have a pt-PT translation (attached)" [Undecided,New] | 20:19 |
| asac | mbana_: i am mostly interested in getting good per-font tweaks | 20:19 |
| asac | but i guess you understood ;) | 20:20 |
| asac | mbana_: maybe also depending on the size | 20:22 |
| asac | mbana_: not only for ms fonts, but also for exotic fonts that are crappy on their own ;) | 20:22 |
| asac | like japanese stuff and so on | 20:23 |
| mbana_ | how do i set the font size in pango | 20:30 |
| asac | mbana_: hmm. | 20:35 |
| asac | mbana_: pango-view -t "Blueprints" --font="sans-serif 13.3333px" --backend=cairo | 20:36 |
| asac | mbana_: or pango-view -t "Blueprints" --font="sans-serif 13.3333px" --backend=xft | 20:36 |
| asac | both should more or less match i would hope | 20:36 |
| mbana_ | cool thanks a lot | 20:43 |
| asac | mbana_: i could. but i dont even know in which state my fontconfig is currently ;) | 20:45 |
| asac | mbana_: http://people.ubuntu.com/~asac/tmp/wiki.png | 20:52 |
| asac | not sure why mind is serif ;) | 20:52 |
| mbana_ | http://wiki.hudson-ci.org/display/HUDSON/Meet+Hudson | 20:52 |
| asac | mbana_: thats serif here too | 20:53 |
| asac | mbana_: where did you select sans serif? | 20:53 |
| asac | ;) | 20:53 |
| asac | mbana_: ok i had serif for proportional | 20:55 |
| mbana_ | never mind | 20:55 |
| mbana_ | it's fine | 20:55 |
| mbana_ | thanks | 20:55 |
| asac | http://people.ubuntu.com/~asac/tmp/wiki.png | 20:56 |
| asac | http://people.ubuntu.com/~asac/tmp/hudson.png | 20:56 |
| asac | i actually hate serif. so happy that i fixed that now ;) | 20:56 |
| asac | the "M" is strange | 20:56 |
| mbana_ | have you heard of whiptail before? | 20:57 |
| asac | mbana_: its now gone | 20:57 |
| asac | i allowed the website to select their own fonts | 20:58 |
| asac | without that i get | 20:58 |
| asac | http://people.ubuntu.com/~asac/tmp/hudson1.png | 20:59 |
| asac | that looks good .... not allowing is default. i just accidentially allowed that | 20:59 |
| asac | while trying to find the serif reason ;) | 20:59 |
| mbana_ | ok brb | 20:59 |
| mbana_ | hold on please | 20:59 |
| mbana_ | gotta go | 20:59 |
| mbana_ | thanks for tghe help | 20:59 |
| axiak | hey! what's the ETA to having beta 3 in your ppa, fta? :) | 21:03 |
| asac | axiak: use the -daily archive ;) | 21:03 |
| axiak | ah, okay | 21:03 |
| asac | https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ppa | 21:03 |
| axiak | I knew it woud be quick | 21:03 |
| axiak | yeah | 21:03 |
| axiak | i just found it | 21:03 |
| asac | axiak: its alreawdy ahead | 21:03 |
| axiak | cool. | 21:04 |
| axiak | installing now | 21:04 |
| asac | axiak: but its actually what we want preview users to use | 21:04 |
| asac | axiak: we get most value out of instant complains when something break | 21:04 |
| axiak | yeah | 21:04 |
| asac | also you never see stuff that are already fixed upstream | 21:04 |
| axiak | well I'll be sure to file stuff that seems really broken then | 21:04 |
| asac | and thanks to mozilla doing a great stuff on checkin quality there are not many breaks | 21:04 |
| axiak | yeah | 21:04 |
| asac | axiak: from -daily you can check here and complain | 21:04 |
| asac | we will give directions on what next ;) | 21:05 |
| axiak | btw, I'm so far really impressed by chromium as well :) | 21:05 |
| axiak | (I know it's not the same project, but I just tried it out today as well) | 21:05 |
| asac | axiak: thats fta ;) ... great work. i havent checked it on 32bits recently | 21:05 |
| asac | adm64 is still a bit messy | 21:05 |
| axiak | yeah | 21:05 |
| axiak | I remember peering into the code on it a few months back | 21:06 |
| axiak | amd64 will take a bit of work... | 21:06 |
| asac | axiak: well. actually i refer to the 32bit amd64 packages that fta has come up with | 21:06 |
| axiak | yeah | 21:06 |
| asac | axiak: they try to ship 32bits for amd64 | 21:06 |
| axiak | yeah I understand | 21:06 |
| axiak | huh... | 21:09 |
| axiak | "Could not find compatible GRE between version 1.9.1b4pre and 1.9.1b4pre." | 21:09 |
| asac | axiak: you should get a new xulrunner-1.9 | 21:09 |
| asac | err 1.9.1 | 21:09 |
| axiak | k | 21:10 |
| asac | axiak: didnt you do dist-upgrade? | 21:10 |
| axiak | no I haven't | 21:10 |
| asac | axiak: you should just use that ;) ... we dont really tweak depends for daily | 21:10 |
| asac | so tracking is best done with dist-upgrade | 21:10 |
| axiak | last time I did it without being ready bad things happened | 21:10 |
| axiak | but I won't change the dist this time so I should be fine | 21:10 |
| asac | axiak: yes. just be sure to look what gets removed | 21:10 |
| asac | before you hit enter | 21:10 |
| axiak | yep | 21:10 |
| axiak | just xulrunner... | 21:11 |
| axiak | no glibc :) | 21:11 |
| asac | yes. thats good to ensure | 21:11 |
| asac | but xulrunner shouldnt get removed too usually | 21:11 |
| asac | if it gets removed something might be wrong ;) | 21:11 |
| axiak | k | 21:11 |
| axiak | well all set then :) | 21:11 |
| asac | axiak: if you dont run jaunty, dist-upgrade should be quite safe | 21:12 |
| axiak | is the version supposed to be 3.1b4pre? | 21:12 |
| asac | axiak: yes. means you are ahead of b3 ;) | 21:12 |
| asac | sorry for that | 21:12 |
| axiak | yeah that makes sense | 21:12 |
| axiak | a little confusing but happens elsewhere in software | 21:12 |
| axiak | (the "pre") | 21:12 |
| asac | the versioning scheme is trimmed for humans not computers ;) | 21:13 |
| axiak | yeah | 21:13 |
| asac | but there are rules ;) | 21:13 |
| fta | back | 21:23 |
| axiak | do you guys get occasional seg faults in the new firefox beta? | 21:34 |
| axiak | (on 32-bit) | 21:34 |
| fta | with 3.2, never, except the crash on exit (visible when you click on a link in another app calling ff, or when you close ff) | 21:35 |
| axiak | hmm | 21:37 |
| axiak | i've been noticing it happens a couple times | 21:37 |
| asac | axiak: extensions? | 21:37 |
| fta | if it crashes for you on something else, please install the ff & xul -dbg, run ff with -g, once it crashes, capture a backtrace, then we can see what it is | 21:37 |
| asac | axiak: are you running in "ignore version stuff" mode? | 21:37 |
| axiak | I think under certain conditions when I use the 3rd mouse button to close a tab | 21:37 |
| asac | i do that all the time. but i should use 3.1 more frequently i guess | 21:37 |
| asac | (also having 3.2 as main thing) | 21:37 |
| asac | axiak: do you still see that in latest daily? | 21:37 |
| asac | axiak: can you get a backtrace? | 21:38 |
| axiak | I had extensions installed for 3, but they don't work in the latest | 21:38 |
| axiak | I'm going to enable the debug | 21:38 |
| axiak | and if it happens again I'll come in here with a backtrace :) | 21:38 |
| asac | axiak: install firefox-3.1-dbg and xulrunner-1.9-dbg | 21:38 |
| axiak | yep | 21:38 |
| asac | the run firefox in gdb | 21:38 |
| asac | if it crashes give us backtrace | 21:38 |
| asac | we want to see ;) | 21:38 |
| asac | axiak: xulrunner-1.9.1-dbg obviously ;) | 21:38 |
| axiak | (Yeah) | 21:38 |
| asac | axiak: i think plugins dont get disabled by version | 21:39 |
| axiak | hmm | 21:39 |
| asac | axiak: so you could have a plugin problem (like flash) | 21:39 |
| axiak | oh sorry I meant add-ons | 21:40 |
| asac | axiak: crashing on close is kind of typical for bad plugins taht keep windows open | 21:40 |
| axiak | the plugins are installed...could be that | 21:40 |
| asac | axiak: yeah. i asked for extensions first ;) | 21:40 |
| axiak | yeah | 21:40 |
| asac | but since you said you dont have them enabled i now would think its plugins | 21:40 |
| asac | (i just closed 200 tabs back and forth in 3.1 without a problem | 21:40 |
| asac | ) | 21:40 |
| axiak | yeah | 21:40 |
| axiak | and it doesn't usually happen | 21:40 |
| axiak | let me see if it happens when I close a flash-enabled site | 21:40 |
| axiak | oh... also flash fullscreen kills firefox | 21:41 |
| asac | axiak: which flash are you using? | 21:42 |
| axiak | Shockwave Flash 10.0 r22 | 21:42 |
| asac | are you on adm64? | 21:42 |
| axiak | nope | 21:42 |
| asac | axiak: my nspluginwrapper r22 build works | 21:44 |
| asac | on youube at least i can view full | 21:44 |
| axiak | munmap_chunk failed | 21:48 |
| axiak | saving traceback... | 21:48 |
| axiak | http://pastebin.com/m4cebbda6 | 21:52 |
| asac | hmm ... not really much info | 21:53 |
| axiak | yeah | 21:53 |
| axiak | well above that it's just the threads opening and closing | 21:53 |
| axiak | then it closes, gets an munmap failure | 21:53 |
| axiak | and kills everything | 21:53 |
| axiak | brb | 21:54 |
| axiak | back | 21:55 |
| asac | axiak: try to remove the mstcorefonts | 22:07 |
| asac | i dont think its the problem | 22:08 |
| asac | but still worht a look | 22:08 |
| axiak | k | 22:08 |
| asac | axiak: and obviously disabling flash | 22:08 |
| axiak | oh this one is the fullscreen one | 22:08 |
| axiak | I haven't hit the other one yet... | 22:08 |
| asac | ah | 22:08 |
| asac | ok | 22:08 |
| asac | fullscreen ... still could be fonts, but most likely its driver | 22:09 |
| asac | axiak: fglrx/nvidia? | 22:09 |
| asac | try free alternatives | 22:09 |
| axiak | nvidia .. yeah | 22:09 |
| asac | ati/nv | 22:09 |
| axiak | though doesn't break in ff 3 | 22:09 |
| asac | you never know ;) | 22:09 |
| asac | i would think its fonts | 22:10 |
| asac | well. think is a bit "strong" ... guts feeling ;) | 22:10 |
| asac | axiak: also theme is food for weird crashes. for instance the gtkqt engine | 22:11 |
| asac | is known to cause pain. but that should also happen on ffox 3 i guess | 22:11 |
| asac | fta: are there any plans to split up the chromium svn repo into sensible pieces? | 22:35 |
| fta | i added support for system libs a while ago, it's committed upstream, but it's creating regressions | 22:35 |
| fta | the effort is to brings features to parity with windows, not packaging, even less system libs | 22:36 |
| fta | -s | 22:36 |
| fta | in short, contributions are welcome, upstream is very friendly even if it's about packaging | 22:37 |
| asac | fta: so what size have the js and the "main" chromium subtree? also what size has webkit subtree? | 22:37 |
| fta | let me look | 22:38 |
| fta | asac, http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/chromium1.png | 22:51 |
| fta | asac, http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/chromium2.png | 22:51 |
| fta | asac, http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/chromium3.png | 22:51 |
| asac | webkit is huzge | 23:01 |
| asac | fta: did you managfe to build with system webkit? probably not right? | 23:01 |
| fta | i didn't try, it's tricky, i'm not sure how to handle the webkit port (i.e. the interface written by upstream between chromium and webkit) | 23:02 |
| fta | ehh?? 100MB for lpia?? http://ppa.launchpad.net/fta/ppa/ubuntu/pool/main/s/songbird/ | 23:04 |
| asac | fta: is that port in the webkit/ dir?` | 23:04 |
| asac | the middle-layer | 23:04 |
| fta | d'oh! -rw-r--r-- root/root 428975504 2009-03-12 22:57 ./usr/lib/songbird/xulrunner/libxul.so | 23:06 |
| fta | in the lpia deb | 23:06 |
| fta | 430M ? | 23:06 |
| asac | lol | 23:06 |
| asac | i guess songbird has a sever nih syndrom | 23:07 |
| asac | and reinvented a manual buildsystem that cannot cope with unknown archs ;) | 23:07 |
| fta | that's just jaunty | 23:07 |
| fta | intrepid and hardy are ~12MB total | 23:07 |
| asac | scary | 23:08 |
| asac | fta: do we have the same problem with jaunty xul? | 23:08 |
| fta | no | 23:08 |
| asac | looks good | 23:09 |
| asac | fta: hit the "retry" button ;) | 23:09 |
| fta | is it possible for a successful build? | 23:10 |
| fta | https://edge.launchpad.net/~fta/+archive/ppa/+build/902452 | 23:11 |
| fta | apparently not | 23:11 |
| asac | "... .stabn: description field '.....' too big, try a different debug format | 23:11 |
| asac | sounds suspicious | 23:11 |
| * asac enables jit for chrome | 23:14 | |
| asac | damn. nopw i get startup hickups | 23:14 |
| asac | hmm only from panel | 23:15 |
| asac | not from cmdline | 23:15 |
| asac | fta: do you use chrome jit too? seems to be quite stable | 23:15 |
| fta | nope, i disabled it a while ago | 23:16 |
| fta | in fact, i had both disabled | 23:16 |
| asac | i hate this startup shit | 23:16 |
| asac | http://paste.ubuntu.com/130389/ | 23:16 |
| asac | i get that now like enlessly when starting from panel quick launch | 23:17 |
| asac | i always gert that for 30 seconds or so on my laptop | 23:17 |
| asac | but hereit doesnt happen on command line | 23:17 |
| asac | thats odd | 23:17 |
| fta | who could have a clue for my lpia weirdness? pitti? doko? | 23:19 |
| asac | fta: retry. if it still happens check wehether those ".stabn" messages are happening elsewhere | 23:21 |
| asac | otherwise point doko at it | 23:21 |
| asac | also check what compile flags are used | 23:21 |
| asac | and give it to doko | 23:21 |
| asac | otherwise i would think the mobile team has to figure. they are the main driver for that port | 23:22 |
| asac | would be better if we could reproduce with something more official than sonbird though | 23:22 |
| fta | maybe songbird is usable on mobile too? :) no idea what h/w the mobile team is targeting | 23:24 |
| asac | fta: dell mini is lpia | 23:24 |
| asac | fta: lpia is everything atom | 23:24 |
| fta | oh, so nc10 too? | 23:24 |
| asac | fta: now we also have arm which goes down to cell-phone form factors | 23:24 |
| asac | fta: you can also run i386 on atom processors | 23:24 |
| fta | i guess i should pay more attention to lpia then ;) | 23:25 |
| asac | lpia is basically i586 but with power consumption tweaks | 23:25 |
| asac | fta: yeah ;) ... if you download netbook remix or something its lpia by default | 23:25 |
| asac | so lpia orginated in the mobile team because MIDs that are small handhelds were the first devices using this atom stuff | 23:26 |
| asac | then atom ws built into bigger systems like netbooks | 23:27 |
| asac | so it basically just became a normal port | 23:27 |
| asac | which is directly dealt with by foundations team | 23:27 |
| asac | so hybrid | 23:28 |
| asac | i think the base is foundations team and the special distros for mid and special apps for touchscreen and so on are mobile team | 23:28 |
| asac | fta: anyway, i would really first check what debug flags songbird uses | 23:30 |
| asac | fta: if its reproducible they probably do something weird | 23:30 |
| asac | if it just happened today we should see it for dailies too tomorrow | 23:31 |
| fta | i build xul myself in sb | 23:31 |
| fta | http://paste.ubuntu.com/130395/ | 23:32 |
| asac | fta: yeah. please test the "retry" button or something then | 23:33 |
| asac | i would hope its just system bustage | 23:33 |
| asac | fta: its -gstabs+ | 23:35 |
| asac | not sure why that is used when linking libxul.so | 23:35 |
| asac | i would think its really songbird crap | 23:35 |
| asac | or we see that tomrrow everywhere ;) | 23:35 |
| asac | (if doko uploaded toolchain stuff and now it sinks to builders) | 23:36 |
| asac | fta: maybe grab the songbird tree for -gstabs+ ;) | 23:36 |
| asac | fta: grep gstab configure.ac | 23:39 |
| asac | GCC_COMPILER_FLAGS="$GCC_COMPILER_FLAGS -gstabs+ -O2" | 23:39 |
| asac | # -gstabs+ | 23:39 |
| asac | GCC_COMPILER_FLAGS="$GCC_COMPILER_FLAGS -gstabs+ -Os" | 23:39 |
| asac | ;) | 23:39 |
| asac | patch that out | 23:40 |
| asac | go go go | 23:40 |
| asac | kill it | 23:40 |
| asac | ;) | 23:40 |
| asac | you can also file a bug against gcc of course ;) | 23:40 |
| asac | and show lpia size and compile messages | 23:40 |
| asac | but most likely thats not supported on lpia yet | 23:40 |
| asac | and configure should do some tests to check that | 23:40 |
| fta | iirc, it was there before, and it was fine | 23:41 |
| asac | fta: are there still build logs in jaunty with gstabs+? | 23:42 |
| asac | for songbird? | 23:42 |
| fta | https://edge.launchpad.net/~fta/+archive/ppa/+index?field.name_filter=songbird&field.status_filter=any&field.series_filter=jaunty | 23:43 |
| fta | so http://launchpadlibrarian.net/20598360/buildlog_ubuntu-jaunty-lpia.songbird_1.0.0%2B0-0ubuntu1~fta6_FULLYBUILT.txt.gz | 23:44 |
| asac | yeah | 23:44 |
| asac | interesting | 23:44 |
| asac | fta: i would try a non gstabs build and if it fixes it we have at least a hint | 23:45 |
| Nafallo | gā | 23:54 |
| asac | Nafallo: is that your fault? | 23:54 |
| asac | test | 23:54 |
| asac | Nafallo: what kind of - is that? | 23:55 |
| asac | ā | 23:55 |
| Nafallo | don't even know what you guys are talking about :-P | 23:55 |
| asac | Nafallo: songbirds libxul.so just got 500M in size on jaunty lpia ;) | 23:55 |
| asac | #fail | 23:55 |
| asac | normal is 8M ;) | 23:55 |
| Nafallo | asac: well... stop sending with your mp3 collection when you upload? :-) | 23:56 |
| asac | -rw-r--r-- root/root 428975504 2009-03-12 22:57 ./usr/lib/songbird/xulrunner/libxul.so | 23:56 |
| asac | fta: ^^ dont do that ;) | 23:56 |
| fta | my collection is far bigger than that ;) | 23:56 |
| asac | using libxul.so for sharing warez just isnt right ;) | 23:57 |
| Nafallo | fta: aha! you just sent with the latest album your could find... got it :-P | 23:58 |
| Nafallo | probably Swedish dansband for all I know ;-) | 23:58 |
| asac | more likely a demo video ;) | 23:58 |
| asac | for the xul video tag | 23:58 |
| Nafallo | ah. and embedding it in the lib itself makes it faster! got it :-) | 23:58 |
| asac | heh | 23:59 |
| asac | yeah. it ships the most popular frames in the average video ;) | 23:59 |
| Nafallo | ehrm... why do we ship porn? :-P | 23:59 |
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