[01:13] <dwr> Hi if anyones listening, i'm having problems watching LiveTV, but recording works just fine.
[01:13] <dwr> Heres my pastebin http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/f41716ef9
[01:14] <dwr> I'm using pinnalce's 800i card btw
[01:44] <dsbw> How is **perlmonkey doing the on-demand part, I wonder?
[03:16] <|dthacker|> hello.   I just installed mythbuntu 8.10 but I'm not able to connect to the backend server.   I need to use a static IP address as I'll have multiple front ends.  How do I fix the error?
[03:45] <pinion> Any have any experience with this grub error:
[03:46] <pinion> Error 24: Attempt to access block outside partition
[03:46] <pinion> The latest kernel is giving it to me
[03:46] <pinion> Older ones are still useable
[03:46] <pinion> running mythbuntu 8.10 with ubuntu-desktop installed
[10:25] <awilkins> Hmm, the "build-dep" part of the mythtv package is broken, anyone know how to replace a package name in it?>
[11:10] <awilkins> How does one build the mythtv .deb packages? I've found pages that recommend checkinstall, but this builds one monolithic package which then clashes with mythtv-frontend ; how do you build the "official" package set?
[12:09] <Shred00> tgm4883: around?
[15:10] <superm1> awilkins, use a pbuilder, PPA, or sbuild setup to build them
[15:11] <awilkins> superm1: Thanks, I've got my PPA to build them
[15:12] <superm1> cool
[15:12] <awilkins> Although debuild seemed to work ok too
[15:12] <awilkins> I got a bit confused about version numbering but I understand the ~ now
[15:13] <awilkins> I've tried to backport a few fixes from trunk to fix the problem with DVB seektables being ludicrously wrong when you rebuild them
[15:14] <Shred00> any news on the weekly-updates fixing that happened/needed happening?
[15:15] <superm1> Shred00, hopefully will be able to poke them tonight to see if we can find what's going on
[15:16] <Shred00> superm1: ok.  great.  just wanted to raise a flag if it was thought everything should be ok at this point.
[15:16] <superm1> awilkins, if you get those backported and have success, i'd recommend asking upstream to pull them into -fixes too, then whenever we get our -fixes fixed again (hopefully tonight :)) then they'll "just" be there
[15:16] <superm1> Shred00, thanks for raising a flag.  there was supposed to be an email system that pung us when things didnt happen, but it looks like that failed
[15:17] <Shred00> superm1: np.  no worries.  nothing urgent.  just like to have fixes to all known/existing bugs.
[15:18] <awilkins> superm1: Indeedy. I may have done it in a horribly amateur way as well, they'd probably do a better job
[15:18] <awilkins> superm1: My C++ is highly rusty so the backport was mostly done by asking SVN to do it
[15:24]  * awilkins installs while imagining a small drumroll
[15:29] <awilkins> Ok. Good - didn't explode.
[15:29] <awilkins> Bad - lirc config is busted or something
[15:36] <awilkins> Oooh, holy crap it actually had the desired effect
[15:37]  * awilkins does the "fixed teh bug" dance.
[15:37] <awilkins> Now I want my LIRC back :-)
[15:40] <awilkins> Hmph, it was just sulking
[16:07] <javatexan> hey guys...I need help....when I boot my system it won't get passed the fscheck...it says that it booted so many times without doing them....blah blah.  My problem is that the checks fail and I can never actually boot.....
[16:08] <javatexan> any ideas?...can I boot off the Live CD and mount the other to copy stuff over?
[16:08] <javatexan> or is there a way to force the boot without the check...it complains of a "short read"...
[16:09] <javatexan> I am stuck....
[16:16] <tgm4883> Shred00, yea?
[16:16] <Shred00> tgm4883: was just asking about weekly fixes status but superm1 answered already.  thanx for pining me though.
[16:17] <Shred00> not so much in a hurry, just wanted to make sure it wasn't thought to be fixed, but not yet actually fixed, sorta thing.
[16:17] <superm1> tgm4883, it looks like it was probably caused by changes to the -fixes branch to pull the svn revision from the debian/changelog
[16:17] <superm1> so i think the weekly build script just needs to have those two lines that modify SVN_REVISION in debian/rules ripped out
[16:18] <tgm4883> so weekly builds are going again then?
[16:30] <superm1> tgm4883, no i dont have access  to the weekly build script currently
[16:38] <styelz> i've downloaded the source for mythtv using apt-get source mythtv, and applied a patch i need.  im rebuilding the package using ./confiugure && make . then checkinstall to create a deb installer.  would that work well ?
[16:38] <awilkins> styelz: Nope
[16:38] <awilkins> styelz: what's the patch?
[16:38] <styelz> http://www.silicondust.com/tmp/mythtv-0-21-fixes-dvbt.patch
[16:38] <awilkins> styelz: I just went through this all this morning
[16:38] <styelz> sorry i got disconnected
[16:39] <styelz> any logs around
[16:39] <styelz> im on a bouncer
[16:39] <awilkins> styelz: Ah, no, I went through doing it myself
[16:39] <styelz> awww
[16:39] <awilkins> styelz: Not talking about it in channel
[16:39] <styelz> i c
[16:39] <awilkins> So I can help!
[16:39] <awilkins> AHa!
[16:39] <awilkins> You want to use debuild
[16:40] <styelz> so no ./configure
[16:40] <awilkins> You've got the sources
[16:40] <awilkins> no./configure
[16:40] <styelz> ill start again then
[16:40] <awilkins> Yesss
[16:40] <awilkins> Delete source tree and apt-get source it again
[16:40] <awilkins> THen make 2 copies
[16:41]  * awilkins is having to check now
[16:41] <styelz> thanks
[16:41] <awilkins> You need a dpatch to put in debian/patches
[16:41] <styelz> sounds scary
[16:41] <tgm4883> what does that patch do?
[16:41] <awilkins> You add the patch to your lis
[16:41] <awilkins> t
[16:42] <awilkins> And then debuild applies it automagically during build
[16:42] <styelz> the patch fixes a channel scan problem on the hdhomerun.
[16:43] <styelz> ok
[16:43] <styelz> how do i get a dpatch from that patch i have
[16:43] <styelz> just copy it in there
[16:43] <awilkins> There's a util for it
[16:43] <styelz> ah
[16:43] <styelz> is it called.. dpatch
[16:43] <styelz> :)
[16:44] <awilkins> .. hmm, might be
[16:44] <awilkins> I'm not at my desktop
[16:44] <awilkins> I came downstairs to test my patched build of MythTV :-)
[16:45] <styelz> the patch gives me an extra scan option in the backend.. "Full Scan (DVB)"
[16:45] <styelz> cool
[16:45] <styelz> dpatch-convert-diffgz
[16:45] <styelz> gotta be one of these
[16:46] <styelz> i guess i make it 01 ?
[16:46] <awilkins> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Complete#dpatch
[16:47] <styelz> dpatch-convert-diffgz 01 /var/www/mythtv-0-21-fixes-dvbt.patch
[16:47] <styelz> works
[16:47] <styelz> its doing something
[16:47] <styelz> ... dpkg-source: info: building mythtv using existing mythtv_0.21.0+fixes18722.orig.tar.gz
[16:47] <styelz> hm
[16:47] <styelz> oops
[16:48] <awilkins> I had to convert a standard udiff with it
[16:50] <awilkins> Ah, it was the patch-template command
[16:52] <styelz> whats that command
[16:52] <awilkins> dpatch patch-template "29_dvb-t_patch" < the_patch_file.diff > 29_dvb-t_patch.dpatch
[16:53] <awilkins> A "dpatch" is apparently just a patch file with a self-executing "patch this" bit at the top
[16:53] <awilkins> replace "the_patch_file.diff" with the patch you've got
[16:54] <styelz> ah
[16:54] <styelz> yea i see it in  the man page now
[16:54] <awilkins> Then you add the patch name to 00list in the debian/patches folder and put the dpatch in there
[16:55] <awilkins> Then do a dch -i  and edit the changelo
[16:55] <awilkins> Then I'd do debuild -S to get a source package in the top folder, then a debuild binary-arch to make arch-specific .debs for your machine
[16:57] <awilkins> My machine is merrily rebuilding all the seektables that were screwed up
[16:57] <styelz> fun
[16:57] <awilkins> I was suitably impressed with the total awesomeness of Launchpad - shove the code up to it and get a shiny new set of debs 20 mins later
[16:58] <awilkins> Doing a build with all the options on would have stressed my mythtv box out, poor thing
[16:58] <awilkins> It's only a wee Sempron
[16:59] <styelz> sounds cool
[17:00] <styelz> whats launchpad
[17:00] <styelz> sounds familiar
[17:00] <awilkins> The Canonical/Ubuntu equivalent of sourceforge
[17:01] <styelz> ah
[17:01] <awilkins> http://launchpad.net
[17:01] <styelz> i dont have dch command
[17:02] <styelz> dchroot
[17:02] <awilkins> dch is in erm... devscripts?
[17:02] <styelz> is that it?
[17:02] <styelz> ok
[17:03] <styelz> k
[17:03] <styelz> thatgot it
[17:09] <styelz> im glad im not in a hurry
[17:10] <awilkins> It is somewhat long winded
[17:10] <awilkins> I suspect it gets easier the more you do it
[17:10] <styelz> i dont have pbuilder-satisfydepends
[17:10] <javatexan> help!!!
[17:11] <styelz> oh i can see whats missing in the list
[17:11] <awilkins> styelz: Hmm, neither do I
[17:11] <styelz> dpkg-checkbuilddeps: Unmet build dependencies:  ...
[17:11] <awilkins> If you do   sudo apt-get build-dep mythtv
[17:11] <awilkins> It won't work
[17:12] <styelz> yea i didnt want to go there
[17:12] <awilkins> Because liblame has been renamed
[17:12] <awilkins> But it does give you a list of things to install
[17:12] <styelz> ye
[17:12] <awilkins> Or just do the launchpad thing and it takes care of deps for you
[17:13] <awilkins> I think it's using sbuilder (snapshotted LVMs which it then installs packages on on demand)
[17:13] <awilkins> THe logs are most illuminating
[17:13] <styelz> hmm
[17:14] <awilkins> Or you could install pbuilder
[17:14] <styelz> yea i did
[17:15] <styelz> working nwo
[17:15] <awilkins> I just hand-installed the deps, so I'm gonna burn in Heck
[17:15] <styelz> building-arch
[17:15] <styelz> running through configure etc
[17:15] <styelz> yea thats what i did
[17:16] <styelz> cause i couldnt find  pbuilder-satisfydepends
[17:16] <styelz> heh
[17:16] <styelz> i figured, ny the time ive worked that out i could have copy pasted what it told me was missing
[17:17] <styelz> i dont plan on doing this often
[17:17] <javatexan> can you install mythbuntu on a xfs partition?
[17:19] <tgm4883> javatexan, I don't think you can put root on an xfs partition
[17:19] <awilkins> My storage is all XFS but the software used to be on reiserfs and is now on ext3
[17:20] <awilkins> If grub can't mount it, you can't put /boot on it
[17:20] <awilkins> If /boot is on a seperate partition with an fs that grub can mount, you can probably put root on xfs as long as you build XFS into your kernel not as a module (?)
[17:21] <awilkins> But I may be talking rubbish
[17:22] <javatexan> my boot partition keeps messing itself up as ext3...so I am thinking of moving to xfs to help....may end up making 30GB partition to install and mount as read only, and then make the rest xfs....n
[17:23] <awilkins> I found that a /boot that you don't mount in fstab reliable
[17:23] <javatexan> yeah...it works fine for a while and then starts having trouble
[17:24] <awilkins> my /boot is ext2, and for a long time I only ever mounted it to update the kernel
[17:24] <javatexan> yep that is what I need
[17:24] <javatexan> so is it only boot that needs to be RO?
[17:24] <javatexan> sorry /boot
[17:24] <awilkins> It doesn't even need to be mounted
[17:25] <awilkins> Once grub has loaded the kernel off it the OS doesn't care
[17:25] <javatexan> yeah...gotcha...i was thinking in separate partition, sorry
[17:26] <awilkins> Mine is.. swap (1GB) boot (100MB), root (20GB), storage(xfs)
[17:26] <javatexan> yeah it won't boot off the drive but I can mount it on a running ubuntu install vi sabrent usb/sata
[17:26] <awilkins> Maybe your hardware is flaky
[17:26] <javatexan> thats what I need.
[17:26] <javatexan> its two sets of hardware though....
[17:27] <javatexan> new mobos, ram, ect
[17:27] <awilkins> Both of them scerw /boot?
[17:27] <awilkins> Weird
[17:27] <javatexan> yeahh
[17:27] <javatexan> one was intel mobo...this one is a gigabyte
[17:28] <awilkins> Ancient uATX nforce2 board
[17:28] <javatexan> i have a new hd to replace, but its 500GB...so
[17:28] <awilkins> With a sempron on it
[17:28] <javatexan> i made the mistake of thinking intel mobo/intel cpu == more reliable... sheessshhh
[17:28] <awilkins> I keep being tempted to replace my drives with a couple of 1TB units, those new green ones that are quieter
[17:29] <awilkins> A BIOS update may be in order
[17:29] <awilkins> The prospect of copying 1TB of data via the USB port though...
[17:29] <awilkins> Not so interesting
[17:29] <javatexan> yeah they are nice...my problem is that once I get everything up and running again, I will have to uninstall and rebuild x264/ffmpeg/mplayer from source again :(
[17:30] <javatexan> yep, that would take a while
[17:30] <javatexan> ;)
[17:30] <awilkins> The wife would just fill it with schmaltzy chick stuff anyway
[17:31] <javatexan> i plan to replace my tivo's hdd with a new green 1TB
[17:31] <javatexan> ;)
[17:31] <awilkins> She has a blanket ban on deleting anything with corsets or chintz in
[17:31] <javatexan> lol
[17:32] <javatexan> my wife keeps watching what I call "alternate lifestyle tv"....all the cooking and decorating competition shows.....YUCK!!!
[17:33] <awilkins> Heh, the cooking ; she's _such_ a picky eater, worse than my daughter (who's 4)
[17:33] <javatexan> I keep telling her that those shows are set to where we cant record them on mythtv... ;)
[17:33] <awilkins> But she does like cooking shows
[17:33] <awilkins> And house shows
[17:33] <javatexan> i don't mind the cooking...its all the alt lifestyle stuff
[17:34] <awilkins> I want a hobbit hole or an Earthship, so I like some of them
[17:34] <awilkins> It's Not Easy Being Green (although it's not as good now)
[17:34] <javatexan> keep wanting to yell at the tv, "come on boys, there's no crying in baseball!!"
[17:34] <awilkins> He's got all the basic life needs sorted and now the show covers too many things like green cosmetics
[17:51] <MythbuntuGuest86> Watching some shows transcoded with the good filter,  audio and video is played back in slow motion.  What to do?
[19:40] <javatexan> how big is swap supposed to be these days?
[19:40] <javatexan> used to be 2x RAM
[19:41] <javatexan> but 16G of swap seems a little big?  :)
[20:15] <awilkins> I actually use the same as RAM now
[20:15] <awilkins> With a 32-bit OS it doesn't matter
[20:15] <awilkins> If you have 3 GB, you're never using swap anyway
[20:17] <awilkins> If you have 8GB I can't fathom a reason for swapping that doesn't involve being a big fat server or a nasty runaway process
[20:17] <tgm4883> I use 1GB
[20:18] <tgm4883> well, actually, I just set it to 1000 in the partitioner
[20:18] <tgm4883> so slightly under 1 GB
[20:22] <rhpot1991> I have 1GB on my laptop, looks like my desktops I follwed the x2 rule
[20:22] <rhpot1991> x2 rule isn't really needed anymore though
[21:03] <MythbuntuGuest86> Watching some shows transcoded with the good filter,  audio and video is played back in slow motion.  What to do?
[21:36] <javatexan> what is a ata8.0 error UNC?
[22:14] <fxr> whats the username/password for the mythtv tables after install of mythbuntu 8.10??
[22:14] <fxr> in mysql
[22:20] <fxr> or is there anywhere i can get the auto searched channel freqs from ? they used to show in mythweb.
[23:36] <woski> still having LCD trouble on the antec fusion v2 (silver).  I'm getting this error when I try to restart LCDd:  ERROR opening /dev/lcd0 (no such file or directory
[23:37] <woski> it goes on to ask if I loaded the iMON VFD kernel module.
[23:57] <mm_202> Hey guys, I've used MU 8.04 before and wasnt really too impressed.  How much better (or worse) is MU 8.10?