=== cody-somerville_ is now known as cody-somerville === Andre_Gondim is now known as Andre_Gondim-afk === fabrice_sp_ is now known as fabrice_sp [06:59] good morning :) [06:59] Let's get started then. [06:59] good morning to you [07:00] First, let's find out who's here. [07:00] Good morning [07:00] o/ [07:00] morning nixternal, persia [07:00] but I only can attend the first 15 minutes :-/ [07:00] Toadstool, geser soren awen jpds nhandler ? [07:00] o/ [07:00] \o [07:00] fabrice_sp, In that case, you go first (if we can finish in 15 minutes) [07:00] ok [07:01] #startmeeting [07:01] Meeting started at 02:01. The chair is dholbach. [07:01] Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] [07:01] hi everyone [07:01] [TOPIC] Fabrice Coutadeur [07:01] New Topic: Fabrice Coutadeur [07:01] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FabriceCoutadeur/UniverseContributorApplication [07:01] good morning fabrice_sp - how are you doing? [07:01] good morning dholbach ! I'm doing fine, thanks :-) [07:01] and good morning everyone [07:02] fabrice_sp: in your application you say that the first contact with the Ubuntu community is not as smooth as it could be - do you have an example for that? [07:03] dholbach, I first came to the community to have dvdstyler integrated, and made the upload to REVU [07:03] and after that, I've been lost :-) [07:03] because it took too long to get it reviewed? [07:03] I didn't expect the package to take so long to be accepted [07:03] yes [07:03] now, I understand why (and my packaging is a lot better :-) [07:04] :) [07:04] Do you think the documentation or "the path to contributing" was clear enough? [07:04] Do you have any suggestions that could either improve the experience, or better set expecations? [07:04] also, I'm quite a hy guy, and never used irc before [07:04] weel, the previous documentation spoke about uploading new packages to revu as the first step [07:05] and oviously, it shouldn't be the first step [07:05] "hy"? [07:05] * persia suspects a dropped 's' [07:05] Ah. [07:05] yes, sorry [07:05] * soren is still waking up :) [07:05] my wireless keyboard drop some letters sometime [07:05] :-) [07:06] That's ok. My brain tends to do the same. Or insert new ones at random. It's very confusing. [07:06] fabrice_sp: So you'd say that we could do a better job at guiding new contributors towards learning packaging and probably work on some existing packages beforehand? [07:07] dholbach, yes. I also already helped in a non official way some people interested in packaging stuff [07:07] in private chatrooms, but for the moment, none is still around [07:08] I think that even with few experience, you can still help a lot [07:08] even in REVU :-) [07:08] fabrice_sp, You seem to use your PPA for backporting. Have you considered involvement with the backporters? [07:08] that is a very nice chunk of uploaded packages you have there fabrice_sp. One question, what happened with im-sdk and are you in the process of getting that fixed and reuploaded? [07:09] persia, yes. I also receive some request directly to my mailbox, that I try to upload [07:09] nixternal, it's failing because of debug packages [07:10] I opened another bug report for that, and assigned it to pkg-create-dbgsym package [07:10] in the meantime, I'm still trying to get it fixed (playing with debug compilation options) [07:11] fabrice_sp: groovy, great job on your packaging contributions and some really good testimonials as well [07:11] wow... good work [07:11] thanks :-) I've been a lot more active since I applied to u-c-d [07:11] fabrice_sp: I noticed :) [07:11] soren, geser, nixternal, persia: any more questions? [07:11] working also on python2.6 transition now [07:12] a lot more active than I have been, though dholbach has me working my fingers to the bone on other projects :p [07:12] dholbach: I am good [07:12] dholbach, :-) You sponsored a lot of my uploads :-) [07:12] Nope, I'm good. [07:12] no question from me [07:13] persia must have gone down for more sushi [07:13] fabrice_sp, You say you plan to work on packages "better if linked to Video edition". Could you share what that is? [07:13] I've not heard of it before. [07:13] No, I'm just a slow typist. [07:13] I mean, my first area of interest is video edition [07:14] so, that's why I have in my ppa dvbcut, dvdstyler, openmovieeditor, ... [07:14] Are they not in the official archives at all or do you just have fresher versions in your ppa? [07:14] but I've touching a lot of different packages lately, so it's really my first area of interest, but not the only one :-) [07:14] and he lives in one of my favorite places in the world too, madrid..so now I know where I can crash next time I am out there :p [07:14] soren, fresher versions, most of the time [07:15] fabrice_sp: Ok, cool. [07:15] I'm more curious about the nomenclature "video edition", but it's not important to my decision. [07:15] for Openmovieeditor, it's more ocmplicated as the new version requires a lot of new packages [07:15] persia: "video editing" maybe [07:15] dholbach, persia: yes [07:15] OK. [07:15] persia: good to go? [07:15] I mean converting old family videos to DVD's [07:16] dholbach, Yes. [07:16] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FabriceCoutadeur <- I wish I was that organized [07:16] [VOTE] Shall Fabrice Coutadeur become Contributing Developer? [07:16] Please vote on: Shall Fabrice Coutadeur become Contributing Developer?. [07:16] Public votes can be registered by saying +1/-1/+0 in the channel, private votes by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to MootBot [07:16] E.g. /msg MootBot +1 #ubuntu-meeting [07:16] +1 [07:16] +1 received from nixternal. 1 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 1 [07:16] +1 [07:16] +1 received from dholbach. 2 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 2 [07:16] +1 [07:16] +1 received from persia. 3 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 3 [07:16] +1 [07:16] +1 received from soren. 4 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 4 [07:16] psst, geser, your turn [07:16] +1 [07:16] +1 received from geser. 5 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 5 [07:16] hehe [07:16] how do I end the vote again? [07:16] #endvote [07:16] #endvote [07:16] [endvote] [07:17] wonder if I can go next? [07:17] [endvote] [07:17] Final result is 5 for, 0 against. 0 abstained. Total: 5 [07:17] congratulations fabrice_sp [07:17] rgreening: you are going last, we want it to be like 5am when it is your turn :p [07:17] :-) [07:17] congratulations and welcome fabrice_sp!!! [07:17] thanks to all! :-) [07:17] It is 5 am [07:17] no, thank you [07:17] [TOPIC] Roderick B. Greening [07:17] rgreening: is it? [07:17] New Topic: Roderick B. Greening [07:17] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/rgreening/DeveloperApplicationMOTU [07:17] morning all :) [07:18] * a|wen waves at rgreening [07:18] Is this the MC meeting? [07:18] cody-somerville: yes [07:18] cody-somerville, Yes. [07:18] o/ a|wen [07:18] Can I do an impromptu application for core-dev as I don't imagine I'll generally be aware at this hour again anytime soon? [07:18] damn, rgreening you messaged me too to put an indorsement on your wiki page...I apologize for totally forgetting [07:18] rgreening, You say you need to read more documentation. Could you share why you think you've read enough to be MOTU? [07:19] rgreening: almost every sponsor mentions the danger of over-committing - what do you think about that? [07:19] nixternal: thats ok, you can skip that and just + 1 me now [07:19] cody-somerville, No. Applications need a week discussion period before discussion. There's another meeting at 17UTC, which might work better for you? [07:19] s/discussion/consideration/2 [07:19] * Hobbsee_ cheers for rgreening [07:19] persia, Okay, great. [07:19] cody-somerville: could you please follow https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopers ? [07:19] MC: I can definitely endorse rgreening, even if he did keep me awake at UDS from snoring...totally awesome work he has done in Kubuntu and I believe some of it has gone upstream or is going upstream... [07:19] persia: one can NEVER read too much. I can attest that to the 100's of tech books i have [07:19] cody-somerville: it'll make it a bit easier for us to prepare, etc. [07:19] dholbach, I was just being facetious anyhow. No problem :) [07:20] dholbach: thats all in ref to UDS. I was quite the eager beaver. and that was also many months back [07:20] hahaha, that is funny, rgreening what did I say to you at UDS? :) [07:20] rgreening: ah, so you're not the eager beaver anymore? :) [07:21] dholbach: I now have a realistic view of things. this allows me to accept work that can be done [07:21] and not take on too much. [07:21] right nixternal [07:21] rgreening: how's the work on kpackagekit coming on? [07:22] good dholbach. I have been learning a lot on it. [07:22] totally awesome dholbach :) I finally don't have that annoying other k package thingy, I already forgot its name [07:22] I have a couple of patches already in [07:22] adept, that was it [07:23] rgreening: I know that glatzor did some work around handling debconf stuff and questions asked by the package installation process - does that work in kpackagekit already? [07:23] and dholbachworking on other patches now. also the new app-install spec was initiated by me with upstream [07:23] dholbach: that would be a back-end. should be immediately available to kpackagekit. I can certainly check with glatzor to verify [07:24] rgreening: well, some parts of it should be part of the front-end too, no? :) [07:24] dholbach: yes. correct. [07:25] not sure if it was integrated yet into 0.4. [07:25] ok [07:25] but it should be easy if it's not yet there. [07:25] the code for kpackagekit it really clean [07:26] rgreening, Two of your endorsers comment that they'd like to see more varied work, and you mention work with the server team as a future plan. What steps have you taken in that direction so far? [07:26] I have discussed woth ScottK on how to get more involved with the team. I have also jumped in the IRC channel for server to see what needs doing. [07:27] I have some ideas for UDS and next server release [07:27] to do with security packaging. thats an area I am really familiar with [07:27] And you also mention that you'd like to work more closely with the GNOME team. How is that progressing? [07:27] specifically firewalls. [07:28] well, glatzor and I have been colaborating with packagekit ideas (for Gnome/KDE). [07:29] I have also worked with some packagers of Gnome apps to help reduce unnecessary deps in packages. [07:30] did I miss anyones questions? [07:30] :) [07:31] soren, persia, nixternal, geser: any more questions? [07:31] I have also worked with fixing python 2.6 transition in some packages for ScottK [07:31] none here [07:31] no [07:31] Nope. [07:31] all set [07:32] [VOTE] Shall Roderick Greening join the MOTU team? [07:32] Please vote on: Shall Roderick Greening join the MOTU team?. [07:32] Public votes can be registered by saying +1/-1/+0 in the channel, private votes by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to MootBot [07:32] E.g. /msg MootBot +1 #ubuntu-meeting [07:33] +1 [07:33] +1 received from dholbach. 1 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 1 [07:33] +1 [07:33] +1 received from nixternal. 2 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 2 [07:33] +1 [07:33] +1 received from persia. 3 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 3 [07:33] +1 [07:33] +1 received from geser. 4 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 4 [07:33] 1+ [07:33] Heh. Whoops [07:33] +1 [07:33] +1 received from soren. 5 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 5 [07:33] hehe [07:33] lol [07:33] [endvote] [07:33] Final result is 5 for, 0 against. 0 abstained. Total: 5 [07:33] congratulations rgreening [07:33] and good night :-) [07:33] congrats and welcome rgreening !!! \o/ [07:33] ty. [07:33] :) [07:34] congrats rgreening! [07:34] and another kubuntu suckah bites the dust [07:34] gl a|wen [07:34] thx [07:34] [TOPIC] Jérémie Corbier [07:34] New Topic: Jérémie Corbier [07:34] hey Toadstool - how are you doing? [07:34] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/motu-council/2009-February/002030.html [07:34] woohoo Toadstool...welcome back :) [07:34] * rgreening sleeps for 2 hrs now.. before work. [07:34] nn rgreening [07:35] g'nite rgreening [07:35] hrmm, where did he go? [07:35] Toadstool: did you find your way back into the Ubuntu Development world easily? [07:37] * persia suspects Toadstool is otherwise occupied [07:38] let's wait another 2 minutes and then do a|wen first? [07:39] fine for me [07:39] :) [07:40] ok... Toadstool: we'll get back to you [07:40] [TOPIC] Andreas Wenning [07:40] New Topic: Andreas Wenning [07:40] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AndreasWenning/DeveloperApplication [07:41] hi! all around [07:41] How's Thailand? Are you in touch with any local group there? :) [07:42] it's good :) ... no sadly not; but i'm sure to "promoting" some (k)ubuntu whenever i can [07:44] * a|wen found an ubuntu sticker on one of the office doors of his department the other day [07:44] a|wen: how has the work been with the Security team? have you had the chance to work directly with them? [07:44] how comes that so many kubuntu developers are applying? doesn't ubuntu-desktop need any more devs or is kubuntu simply better at recruiting? [07:44] a|wen, You mention work on security updates. Have you had any involvement with MOTU SWAT? [07:44] geser, Probably just cyclical: it was the other way for quite a while. [07:45] geser: and lets not forget that 3 out of 7 MC members are also Kubuntu developers :) [07:45] it is an invasion I tell you [07:45] dholbach: not directly no ... until now i've simply been preparing an upload for the full stack and trying to get a sponsor [07:45] a|wen: I'm sure they're going to appreciate helping hands. :-) [07:46] jaunty, bzr qt3 , sourcepackage qt4=4.5.0-0maemo0mer1 [07:46] er, sorry [07:46] but i might try to get involved with motu swat soon ... i think security updates are very important to focus at [07:47] geser: they (we) are good at welcoming people in the kubuntu camp ... and the kde-packaging is streamlined (thx apachelogger) to easily get people to help; that has worked really good [07:47] I can also provide some endorsement on a|wen...he has done a tremendous job with helping on the KDE 4.x packages and helping out others as well in regards to packaging in #kubuntu-devel...he has been around a long time and always found a way to contribute substantially [07:48] a|wen: you said you're maintaining packages in debian itself too? [07:48] thx nixternal :) [07:48] a|wen, https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu-cve-tracker might address part of your "What I like least in Ubuntu" concern. [07:48] heh, all this time I thought you were a MOTU already..then again, when you went for Kubuntu Member I thought you were already a member then as well [07:48] dholbach: correct ... i have python-uniconvertor (currently in ubuntu/main); and two apache modules [07:49] a|wen: Do you think we're doing a good job at working with Debian in general? [07:49] persia: uhh; i should look at that one and see, what that is [07:50] dholbach: in general yes, but everyone needs to be aware of it ... i'm very focused on sending patches upstream to debian, but we need all to be that [07:51] we'll all benefit for getting patches/changes/improvements to debian to cut down on the diff ... we also need to better to that with the current kde-packaging [07:51] a|wen: anything we could do to give it more visibility? [07:52] dholbach: adding it as part of the merge-process? (can't remember if it is already there) [07:53] I *think* it's mentioned there. [07:53] Anyway, I was just interested to hear the views from somebody who "lives in both worlds". [07:53] soren, geser, persia, nixternal: any more questions? [07:53] none here [07:54] dholbach: no, you'are doing the questioning great, you haven't unlearned anything in your MC absence time :) [07:54] dholbach: and as a sponsor we should remember asking if it is done ... i'm often asked by eg. ScottK if i remembered to send it upstream (luckily i often have) [07:54] dholbach: Yeah, what geser said :) [07:54] geser: :-) [07:55] a|wen: I guess you're going to bear that in mind, when doing sponsoring yourself? :) [07:55] I don't have any more questions. I've been quite impressed with the quality of changelog entries in the patches I've seen. [07:55] alright......... [07:55] dholbach: of course :) [07:55] [VOTE] Shall Andreas Wenning join the MOTU team? [07:55] Please vote on: Shall Andreas Wenning join the MOTU team?. [07:55] Public votes can be registered by saying +1/-1/+0 in the channel, private votes by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to MootBot [07:55] E.g. /msg MootBot +1 #ubuntu-meeting [07:55] +1 [07:55] +1 received from nixternal. 1 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 1 [07:55] +1 [07:55] +1 received from dholbach. 2 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 2 [07:55] +1 [07:55] +1 received from geser. 3 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 3 [07:55] +1 [07:55] +1 received from persia. 4 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 4 [07:55] +1 [07:55] +1 received from soren. 5 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 5 [07:55] [endvote] [07:55] Final result is 5 for, 0 against. 0 abstained. Total: 5 [07:56] congratulations and welcome a|wen!!! \o/ [07:56] congratulations a|wen! :) [07:56] Yay, more Danish MOTU's! [07:56] another kubuntu suckah bites the dust :p [07:56] thx everyone :) [07:56] And has Toadstool returned? [07:56] soren: yay! [07:56] nobody expects the Danish ... err.... :) [07:56] mmm, a danish...I am quite hungry actually :p [07:56] haha [07:56] nixternal: We /are/ tasty, aren't we? [07:56] err, not that kind of danish your perverts! [07:56] Oh. [07:57] * dholbach will cut that out of the meeting logs [07:57] :p [07:57] hahaha [07:57] Right. We've clearly lost cohesion. Let's call it done, and reconvene in a couple weeks. [07:57] I propose we do Toadstool's re-application over mail if he doesn't turn up by the end of the hour. [07:58] 2 minutes... [07:58] I thought we didn't want to do them over mail anymore. [07:58] persia: As a rule, we don't. Toadstool's appliaction is kind of special, though. [07:59] soren, Why is it any different than any other reapplication? [07:59] persia: I was thinking that it'd be nice if re-applications were unbureaucratic [07:59] persia: We've been through this :) [07:59] persia: Because it's a reapplication. [07:59] dholbach, It's not that, it's that I think we ought to do it one way or the other. Mixing them just seems wrong. [08:00] On a whim, yes. [08:00] This is a special instance, though. [08:00] Well, it's a rare instance, but I don't know why it's special, but I think I'm looking at a narrower thing than you (see above). [08:01] I'm not really opposed to doing them in our meetings, I was just thinking that Jérémie waited 3 weeks now and given that his skills are undoubted mail might be more convenient [08:01] did we grant the applicant the opportunity to process his application my mail if he can't make it to any meeting? [08:01] (or at least I don't doubt his skills given his involvement in Ubuntu before) [08:02] geser: yes, we said we are flexible :) [08:02] persia: Oh, right I see what you said now. I missed a "re" somewhere :) [08:02] Well, the other alternative would be to process in his absence. [08:03] I'm not that excited about that, because I think it's unfair if we have unanswered questions. [08:03] I agree, meeting to not ask questions is weird. :) [08:03] me too [08:03] On the other hand, I don't especially want to make him wait: I just think that if we switched from mail to meetings because we thought it was better, we should stick with that. [08:04] I also think it's unfair to expect some applicants to appear at meetings, and other applicants to be processed by mail. [08:04] I'm happy to make it an impromptu meeting then. I was just trying to avoid making him wait another 2 weeks. [08:04] That said, if we want to declare that reapplications only require declaration of intent and plans, and we just do it, I'm good with that, but let it be a precedent. [08:05] persia: Sounds reasonable. [08:05] alrighty all, I am going to bed...I shall talk to you later on today :) [08:05] night nixternal [08:05] g'nite [08:06] soren, geser, persia: so what's your favourite solution now? [08:06] * persia is unsure, but wants the chosen solution to not be "special". [08:07] When Toadstool shows up next, we can see if we can make quorum for an inpromptu meeting. [08:07] soren: +1 [08:07] As we've done that before, it wouldn't be a precedent. :-) [08:07] I'm not opposed. Will we extend that to any applicant, or just for reapplicants? [08:08] persia: we did it for Laney (I think) because of scheduling / timing problems 4 weeks ago [08:08] so it's more a "be flexible when necessary" instead of a new "special rule" [08:08] We did. Do we expect to keep doing that if there are issues with scheduling/timing? [08:09] persia: I think that's a reasonable thing to offer to others. [08:09] persia: We're all of course free to say that it's a bad time for us. [08:09] OK. That seems reasonable. [08:09] OK. :) [08:09] [TOPIC] AOB [08:09] New Topic: AOB [08:09] geser, soren, persia: anything from you? [08:10] So, if someone can't make a scheduled meeting, we will consider them for a possible ad-hoc meeting between the scheduled meeting and the next scheduled meeting. [08:10] And if any of us have dire concerns or strong praise, we'll annotate the applicant wiki page after the missed meeting. [08:10] Does that sound complete? [08:11] persia: Perfect. [08:11] The cases up until now were obvious: timezone confusion and dropping off the internet. [08:12] We didn't have the case yet where an applicant said "I flat out can't make any of those times". [08:12] Right. I'm essentially trying to establish a guideline that lets us reasonably say "yes" or "no" rather than "come to the next one". [08:13] I'm happy with what you said above [08:14] OK. That's three of us, which unfortunately isn't quorum. I'll bring it up at the next MC call, and if we have quorum, add it to the wiki page. [08:14] ok great [08:14] Is there any other business? [08:15] I guess not. [08:15] I'm happy to do the honours and update the agenda for next time. [08:15] See you in two weeks! :) [08:15] Thanks everybody [08:15] #endmeeting [08:15] Meeting finished at 03:15. [08:16] I'm happy with the proposed solution (ad-hoc meetings) [08:19] geser, Excellent. You save me having to remember the details :) I'll update the wiki page in a few hours. [08:19] thanks persia [08:22] guys I'm really really sorry, stuck in traffic for 2 hours :( [08:23] persia, soren, geser: still there? :) [08:23] * persia is still here [08:23] * geser has to leave now, will be back in around 3 hours if necessary [08:24] That means no quorum for at least three hours, unless someone else appears. [08:24] I'll show up next meeting then, no worries :) [08:24] my fault anyways, I should have left home earlier [08:24] sorry about the inconvenience [08:25] Toadstool: no worries - I'd be happy to make it an impromptu meeting later today if we can get quorum [08:26] dholbach: fine with me, just ping me if you do, thank you for the effort [08:26] * dholbach hugs Toadstool [08:26] * Toadstool hugs dholbach back [09:52] jpds, geser, persia, Toadstool: around? :) [09:52] yes :) [09:52] yep [09:52] present [09:53] * jpds waves. [09:53] super [09:53] #startmeeting [09:53] Meeting started at 04:53. The chair is dholbach. [09:53] Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] [09:53] Did we lose soren in the interim? [09:53] This is an impromptu meeting to deal with the re-application of Toadstool aka Jérémie Corbier. [09:53] persia: I pinged him [09:53] first, I'd like to apologize and thank you all for showing up now :) [09:54] [TOPIC] Re-activation of Jérémie Corbier [09:54] New Topic: Re-activation of Jérémie Corbier [09:54] [LINK] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/motu-council/2009-February/002030.html [09:54] LINK received: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/motu-council/2009-February/002030.html [09:54] Toadstool, You mention that you've been following process change to some degree. What changed most while you were away? [09:55] that's quite a lot of things to talk about but mainly SRUs and ways the different freezes are handled I guess [09:56] I don't know the exact changes to be honest, but I know things changed and I also know where to look at on the mailing lists and on the wiki [09:56] Toadstool: is there anything that specifically interests you in the mobile world? [09:58] low level stuff, drivers, etc. but I have recently looked at how UIs are designed (Maemo, U Mobile, etc) and I think I am going to take a deeper look at that as well [09:59] I'm sure the Ubuntu Mobile people will be pleased to get to know you [09:59] for what is worth, I am working as a linux embedded software engineer, so I have a good understanding of how things work on a mobile device ;) [10:00] ah, I didn't know :) [10:00] jpds, geser: do you have any questions? [10:00] Toadstool, I'm also curious if you put anything in the sponsors queue while you were waiting to be MOTU again. [10:01] not yet, but I am currently working on putting the qc-usb driver into shape for Jaunty or Karmic [10:02] the package is ready, I just need to test it a little more [10:02] Oh, excellent! [10:02] * soren is around-ish [10:03] soren: questions? :) [10:03] None :) [10:04] None from me. [10:05] no questions from me either [10:05] persia: anything else from you? [10:05] Nope. [10:05] [VOTE] Shall Jérémie Corbier re-join the MOTU team? [10:05] Please vote on: Shall Jérémie Corbier re-join the MOTU team?. [10:05] Public votes can be registered by saying +1/-1/+0 in the channel, private votes by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to MootBot [10:05] E.g. /msg MootBot +1 #ubuntu-meeting [10:05] +1 [10:05]