[00:20] Anyone alive in here? [00:24] mikecharest: ping [00:25] what version of mythbuntu do you use? [00:25] mm_202, well what was your problem with 8.04? [00:27] Well I could never really get the backend to work correctly, and every time I started it, I always got the MythTV setup wizard.. [00:27] i think i may have found some specifics that'll get my imon lcd/ir working. i really really hope so. [00:27] every time you started the backend you got the setup wizard? [00:27] what were you using to start the backend? [00:28] No, everytime I started the front-end, I got the wizard, and had to set it up point to my server's db, etc. [00:28] interesting [00:28] * mm_202 is going to try installing 8.10 and hopefully not have that problem [00:29] And the backend, I tried to install it on ubuntu server, but I had the db setup and all that fun stuff [00:50] hey guys, the weekly myhtbuntu builds are built here, right? [00:50] perilousapricot, yeah we found a bug in the build script [00:50] we're fixing it right now [00:50] superm1, :) cool [00:50] superm1, was gonna let you know [00:51] perilousapricot, yeah it's apparently been broke for a while (again :( ) and we didn't realize it [00:52] hey man, no need to apologize [00:52] these lirc/lcdproc issues are killing me! ahhh! [00:52] perilousapricot, if you however would like to help keep up with when things need to get fixed, and just keep an eye on the builds from time to time... we need someone who can keep up with it.. [00:53] superm1, I mean, I futz with my box a lot, what are you looking for? [00:53] perilousapricot, just if the builds break and it looks like it's a simplistic fix, write a small patch for it, or if it looks complex to bug one of us about it? [00:54] woski: still working on that iMon on your Fusion case? [00:54] yeah [00:54] I've not sat down to tackle that yet. [00:54] yeah,I can help with that kind of stuff, but caveat: I'm pretty rusty on tracking down build issue type things [00:55] perilousapricot, well if you can get a handle on how the process works its not too much to keep up with [00:55] i found some specific information regarding my device (15c2:0038). and it seems to need a patch for lirc. now, running through the steps on foxmediasystems, is there a point I can apply this patch? [00:55] cause it just installs lirc via apt-get [00:56] superm1: one suggestion I'd make for the CDs: include the necessary kernel modules so that ATSC cards can be recognized during install. Otherwise, running mythtv-setup during install is of very limited value. [00:58] woski: I've not tried it yet. However, there is a PPA with a patched lirc now. Let me find it for you. [00:58] oh ok, cool. [00:59] tritium, they should all be there [00:59] tritium, do you have a specific example of one that isn't? [01:00] (whats a PPA?) [01:00] superm1: yes, I've tried with both my DViCO Fusion HDTV5 RT Gold, and Hauppauage WinTV-HVR-1800. [01:00] I've tried on 8.04, 8.10 and 9.04 alphas and daily builds. [01:00] tritium, are the modules there post install then? [01:00] woski: Personal Package Archives [01:00] they're just not working on the disk itself? [01:01] superm1: yes, I have to re-run mythtv-setup after install to setup the ATSC cards. [01:01] woski: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-kennynet/+archive/ppa [01:01] !ppa | woski [01:01] woski: With Launchpad's Personal Package Archives (PPA), you can build and publish binary Ubuntu packages for multiple architectures simply by uploading an Ubuntu source package to Launchpad. See https://help.launchpad.net/PPAQuickStart. [01:02] tritium, that's quite weird. the install has all the modules on CD [01:02] That guy has patched lcdproc in his PPA, woski, as well as an lirc package. [01:02] can you check lsmod to see they aren't loaded on the CD? [01:02] superm1: really? [01:02] tritium, and if they aren't loaded, try loading them? [01:02] superm1: sure, I'll do that when I try alpha6 [01:02] if they aren't loaded, does dmesg claim why perhaps? [01:02] Or, I could try that sooner. [01:02] tritium, great!. it should be mirroring right now. if you want to grab it, it's on cdimages.ubuntu.com right now too [01:02] cool, thanks tritium, zinn [01:03] Thanks, superm1. [01:03] http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/mythbuntu/releases/jaunty/alpha-6/ [01:03] Awesome. I'll get the download started now. [01:06] superm1: wow, I had forgotten alpha6 was already going to be out today. [01:06] tritium, yeah should all be bug fixing from now forward hopefully [01:06] Awesome. [01:07] woski: let me know how that lcdproc package from the PPA works, if you don't mind. [01:07] tritium, did you ever get your upload rights back? [01:08] oh, not at all! [01:08] superm1: no, I did not. And speaking of that, I'm sorry that I didn't get the hdhomerun config gui completed. [01:08] im reading through to find out how it all works [01:09] tritium, well we can still put it in one of our PPAs and plan it for karmic at least [01:09] superm1: ok, that sounds like a good plan [01:12] superm1: I've built it, and tested it out. What it does is allow you to scan channels, and launch VLC when you find one. The only other real feature it has is a gui frontend for upgrading HDHR firmware. [01:12] well having a UI to present channels is useful at least though [01:12] superm1, I'm not sure if this is the right place, but somewhere in the mythexport upgrade script (in the deb) it makes mysql prompt you for the root password without telling you what's up [01:12] it just says "Enter Password;" [01:12] rhpot1991, ^ [01:13] perilousapricot, rhpot1991 should be able to address it [01:13] thanks [01:13] perilousapricot, it's probably best if you can file a bug against mythexport too though so it doesnt get lost inbetween a T intersection on the intertubes [01:13] tritium: this should deal with the 15c2:0038 particular issues I'm having? [01:13] woski: I'm not sure what issues you're referring to, actually. [01:14] The patch in that PPA is the standard patch for iMon LCD displays found in Fusion 430 V2 and Black cases. [01:14] (Antec) [01:15] superm1, which bugtracker [01:15] bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mythexport [01:17] tritium: http://mythtvblog.blogspot.com/2008/04/getting-imon-0038-lcd-working-with-lirc.html applies some patches that my particular fusion 430 v2 (silver) apparently needs [01:21] do any of you guys have an idea of how I could force a newer nvidia card to not do overscan with TV-out [01:21] actually, http://codeka.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=23#p150 seems to address it a little more directly. [01:21] the tv doesn't have the option [01:21] woski: I'll read up, then [01:21] and apparently nvidia took the option out of newer driver revisions for newwer cards [01:23] perilousapricot: the overscan option doesn't work? [01:23] tritium, there isn't one at all [01:23] the second link is more straightforward (not much reading to see where the issue is) [01:23] perilousapricot: Option "TVOverScan" [01:24] tritium, what section does that go in? [01:25] perilousapricot: in either the Screen or Device sections of your /etc/X11/xorg.conf (see http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/180.29/README/appendix-b.html) [01:30] perilousapricot: you can also find that readme in /usr/share/doc/nvidia-glx-180/README.txt.gz [01:30] tritium, yeah, i'm poking at it [01:30] I read some (I guess incorrect) reports that it was taken out in later driver revisions, and it wasn't exposed in the nvidia-settings applet anymore so I thought it was true [01:33] perilousapricot: I've not seen that. However, it says the default is 0.0 for that option (no overscan). I too have overscan on my system, and I'm unable to get rid of it. The option only takes decimal values 0.0 to 1.0. I need a negative value to force some underscan. [01:33] tritium, I'll try -0.5 to see [01:34] perilousapricot: it doesn't work [01:34] well damnit [01:34] in 1024x768, it cuts off 50 px on each side and 30 on the top/bottom [01:34] perilousapricot: I've also noticed that the LiveCD doesn't recognize my new GeForce 9400, so it uses the VESA driver, and it doens't overscan. Strange, huh? [01:35] perilousapricot: yep, that's about what mine cuts off on my 720p/1080i TV. [01:37] and for some reason, myth's moving thing doesn't work at all [01:38] like it shrinks the viewable window, but doesn't apply the offset, so it's still stuck in the top left where I can't see it [01:38] not that it was a good solution anyway because it makes problems with everything else that likes to put tool/status bars in that area [01:38] tritium, ^ [01:39] perilousapricot: yeah, I know what you mean [01:39] I wonder if there's a way to tell X to use a virtual desktop that's smaller than the physical deskto [01:40] perilousapricot: which TV do you have? [01:40] toshiba theatreview sd [01:41] What type? [01:41] I have a JVC HD-61Z786A (DILA projection) [01:41] a 36" crt [01:42] perilousapricot: have you tried forcing the vesa driver? [01:42] tritium, well, the whole reason I upgraded was to use vdpau since my frontend is underpowered [01:44] Yeah, I know it's not a solution. I'm just curious if it would fit without overscan, as was the case for me. Not having XvMC or VDPAU wouldn't be desirable. I'm just curious. [01:44] yeah], let me change it [01:44] would I just change the driver to vesa? [01:45] Yeah. [01:47] great. didn't work. [01:49] woski: no kidding? [01:50] well, not your PPA. i was going to try this other step first to see if it worked since it spoke to my particular hardware [01:51] woski: that's not *my* PPA [01:52] oh right, sorry! [01:52] No need to apologize. I'm just letting you know. :) [01:53] this lcd and ir set up is starting to become a little more trouble than it's worth. but the remote is pretty necessary for this setup! haha [01:56] Wireless keyboards and mice aren't so bad ;) [01:57] i know. i was trying to be minimal :) [01:57] i've never had so much headache before with such things. and I still havent gotten to the tv card lol [02:00] Good luck, woski. I need to run. [02:00] perilousapricot: please let me know what happens when you try vesa? [02:00] thanks tritium. I'll let you know how it comes! [02:00] tritium, will do, my roomate started to watch a basketball game [02:01] so I'm having to wait till he's done [02:01] perilousapricot: no worries. Thanks. [02:01] I'm trolling in the nvidia forums to see what's up, tritium === jpsnl1 is now known as JP-sNL === tgm4883 changed the topic of #ubuntu-mythtv to: Mythbuntu 8.10 Now Released http://www.mythbuntu.org/8.10/release :: Come test Mythbuntu 9.04 Alpha 6 http://www.mythbuntu.org/9.04/alpha6 :: See our website at http://www.mythbuntu.org for release and support information :: Paste logs @ http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com Please stick around for people to answer your question. Test new features here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=751668 [06:10] !release [06:10] Latest Stable Release - Mythbuntu 8.10 http://www.mythbuntu.org/downloads - Latest Development Release - Mythbuntu 9.04 Alpha 6 http://www.mythbuntu.org/9.04/alpha6 [10:57] iguess hdhomerun doesnt work to well with mythtv [11:00] its like it cant tune the channels correctly [11:02] works perfect in the hdhomerun gui [12:07] if i patch the files in mythtv/libs in the source.. do i need to reinstall all packages, or can i just get away with reinstalling the libs [12:08] after i build them.. of course [13:06] styelz: you are using the dvb hdhr right? [13:23] rhpot1991: yea [13:24] styelz: I think thats a newer vesrion, most of us are used to using HDHRs that do QAM/ASTC [13:24] yea is the Australian version [13:25] the patch i applied lets me scan ok [13:26] but when i view a channel in the front end it all broken up [13:26] like a bad signal, but i know its not [13:55] Watching some shows transcoded with the good filter, audio and video is played back in slow motion. What to do? [14:13] hmz [14:15] ive got the source tree. and did a debuild .. [14:15] which made, libmyth, mythtv, mythtv-backend etc [14:15] how would i update mythtv-common ? [14:16] oh [14:40] Hi... I just installed MythTV on my Ubuntu Intrepid installation. I got myself a Hauppage WinTV card - works great under TV Time, but MythTV doesn't see it. Should I be configuring something? [14:42] jurgentje, did you set it up in mythtv-setup? [14:43] umm... *blush* (sorry) [14:50] hi all just got my second tuner for my mythbuntu box but it is taking ages to tune the other card was really fast any ideas? [14:51] Watching shows transcoded with the good filter, audio and video is played back in slow motion. low quality and non transcoded play fine [15:07] do you really need to scan for more channels with more than 1 tuner card? [15:07] i thought they would just all be the same, for that video source [15:11] styelz, you only have to scan once* for each video source [15:11] * if you have multiple cards that get different channels, but on the same video source you will have to scan multiple times [15:12] ie, if card 1 gets channels 1-20, and card 2 gets channels 20-40, and your video source is for chcannels 1-40 [15:22] Okay... I installed MythTV, did the mythtv-setup, bumped into an error (apparently it didn't succeed in connecting to get the Belgian channel list) [15:22] arr ok [15:22] I have a Hauppage WinTV but can't see TV. [15:23] I do have a list with the frequencies of the Belgian TV channels. Is there a way for me to input these manually? [15:23] (TV works fine with TV Time) [15:36] Please, can someone help me out here? I'm completely new (first time I install MythTV) and it doesn't seem to work. [16:13] Hallo, [16:13] kann man hier eine Frage zur Installation von Mythtv unter Ubuntu stellen? [16:13] Sorry, is it an english or german channel [16:14] english [16:14] Ok, then once again in english. [16:15] Is it allowed in this channel to ask some questions about the installation of Mythtv under Ubuntu? [16:16] yes [16:16] Ok, no answer means it's ok? [16:16] not only is it allowed, it is encouraged [16:16] Sorry I read it to late tgm4883 [16:17] I can't guarentee there is anyone in here that can help you, but if you ask your question and stick around someone that can is bound to see it [16:17] So my question. I'm currently willing to setup a media server. I tried vdr and now I want to try Mythtv, before I make the decision which one to use. [16:18] thats not a question ;) [16:19] I just installed Mythtv from the ubuntu (8.10) repositories. I ran mythtv-setup and filled in all the things. What I didn't know I learned from the web. [16:19] But when I started the channel scan, nothing happend. [16:20] hmm [16:20] which tuner card? [16:20] any errors? [16:20] I have installed an DVB-S satellite card, which works fine with vdr, but I couldn't get it run under Mythtv. [16:20] Tuner car: Hauppauge WinTV Nova HD-S2 [16:21] No errors during installation [16:22] I tried to use a channel.conf, so that I don't need the channel scan, but I didn't know which format mythtv needs. I couldn't find an description anywhere. [16:23] I play around with myhfilldatabase, but to be onest, I didn't really understand it. [16:23] My problem, I don't know where the problem is. [16:24] No error message or something like this. [16:24] hm [16:29] If I start channel scan, myth-setup switches to the next screen an notthing happens. Or if I change it to scan only the transponder, the mask with the scan ist opend, but nothing happend, is always 0% scan ready. [16:30] For me it locks like, that Mythtv couldn't handle the card, but it detected the card pretty well. [16:30] hein__, I'm not sure i can help you much more than pointing you to a few forum thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=973490 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=984940 [16:36] tmg4883: The secaont link I already found, it didn't help. The first link seems e really helpful. I just chech teh installtion and the firmware, semms to be ok. [16:36] Now i try a scan. [16:36] Sorry, a scan to generate a channels.conf. [16:42] So scan ist running. [16:52] scan works fine, it's still running but it fins a bunch of channels. [16:53] Oh, do clear it. Not the scan in mythtv, the external command scan. [17:01] Hi... apparently there's no EPG available for Belgium ... anyone knows if MythTV is doing something with Teletext decoding? (see http://nxtvepg.sourceforge.net/ttx_grab.html ) [17:33] hey everybody... I'm having issues setting up a DVICO Fusion Remote with a serial lirc receiver. I'd really appreciate it if someone with some knowledge could help me out... [17:34] I've been pulling my hair out over it going on two days now [17:35] and all the howto's and setup guides I've followed haven't gotten me any headway... [17:39] tgm4883: So, I did the scan. I produced a really nice channels.conf. I imported it and .. nothing happens. [17:40] I don't have a glue where the problem is. [17:42] mythtv-setup imports the channels.conf without a message. I can set the ARSC channel sperator to every thing that's possible, no error message from mythtv-setup [17:43] Ist ther somewhere a log file, is it possible to set a verbose mode or something like this? [17:54] I faound the parameter to set mythtv-stup in the verbos mode. [17:54] I got this error messages: 2009-03-13 18:52:29.139 MSqlQuery: SELECT diseqcid, value FROM diseqc_config WHERE cardinputid = 1 [17:54] 2009-03-13 18:52:29.140 DiSEqCDevTree, Error: No root device tree node! [17:54] 2009-03-13 18:52:29.141 DVBChan(1:0) Error: Tune(): Failed to setup DiSEqC devices [17:54] 2009-03-13 18:52:29.141 SIScan(0): Failed to tune Frequency 12551500 mplexid(0) at offset 0 [17:55] Did anybody understand this? The main problems for me semmes do be the message: DiSEqCDevTree, Error: No root device tree node! [17:55] But what does it mean? [17:55] Anybody an answer? [18:01] Hey Boys, you can call my Einstein, I found the problem. [18:02] Shame about me. I had to put in the discseq entry (LNB) and now it find channels, a lot of channels. [18:03] hi, when I installed mythbuntu I was told to type in a password for the account root on the mysql database, can I use this account for mythtv or is this root account a security risk? [18:04] gumpert345: it's the mysql admin user (which has nothing to do with login accounts) [18:04] kees that was my question thanks [18:18] Just why I'm so glad that it works, mythtv-setup is still scanning for channels an finds 200 at least and is still scanning. :-) [18:30] hi I did mythtv-setup and was asked for the database name: mythconverg then the username: root and then the password: .... I tried all combination for username: mythtv/root and the password: the one I gave to root / the one created automatically but it didnt work, what can I do? [18:34] gumpert345, the DB information that was listed by default was correct, it is set by our installer [18:36] foxbuntu when I use the default informations I get: Cannot login to database? [18:41] gumpert345, using the username mythtv or root? [18:42] both [18:42] gumpert345, also did you change the IPs from 127.0.0.1 to the actual IP or leave it alone? [18:43] it is the same PC I tried 127.0.0.1 and localhost [18:43] for both IP settings? [18:43] it did not work for both [18:44] what? [18:44] once I typed in localhost and I got the error question the next time I typed in 127.0.0.1 and got the same error question [18:44] Hello, my next stupid question. I just setup mythtv with myth-setup. A lot of channels wherte faound. An now the stupid queston, I startet mythtv, but how can I switch channels and so on? [18:46] I tried 192.168.0.18 (the backends IP) and got the message again [18:47] hein__ did you try the left and right buttons? [18:48] hein__ did you try the left and right buttons? [18:49] Yes, it seems, that it changes the channels. But it seems I've to setup my graphic, but I didn't now where. [18:50] So it startet it on my other screen. [18:50] First I get the selection TV, media, recorded ... and so on. [18:51] Oh, theres the config. Moment please. [18:55] Mythtv seems to be a little bit differnt form other programms, but not bad. [18:57] hm, i recompiled the .debs again. this time ot th HDHR-EU working.. ! [18:58] So most things are working. Only viewing TV dind't work, [18:58] you should see the pile of tissue on my desk [18:58] .. i have the flu [18:58] bins full [18:58] Is there a problem, if I have 2 screens in Xineramma mode? [18:58] er wrong window.. shiz [18:58] sorry [18:59] Oh, sorry boys, my wife is calling for dinner and this means ... so long. [18:59] :-) [18:59] mm dinner [18:59] is there a way to check, whether mysql is running? [19:00] sudo /etc/init.d/mysql status [19:00] thx [19:02] is there a way to check what users are already created? [19:02] theres a gui tool there for that i think [19:04] under applications menui [19:05] System, users and groups [19:05] oh sorry, my fault I wanted to check, if there is a mythtv user in mysql [19:06] yea there is it controls mythtv tasks. [19:06] er sorry. [19:06] i missed the mysql bit on the end [19:07] heh [19:07] um [19:07] type mysql -uroot -p and login [19:08] once in type . [19:08] use mysql; [19:08] select user from user\G [19:10] it says no database selected [19:10] type use mysql; [19:10] first [19:10] ah ok [19:11] and now there is a list like: user:root and so on [19:11] there should be a user: mythtv, right? [19:11] yea [19:12] I think I found the problem: there is none [19:12] are you installing mythtv manually on ubuntu [19:12] no I installed mythbuntu 8.04.1 [19:13] hm ok [19:13] im running 8.10 [19:14] the weird thing is: I tried mysql -u mythtv and I saw the same command line: mysql> [19:14] type exit [19:15] to get out of mysql client [19:15] did that [19:15] try this [19:16] er [19:16] sudo dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-database [19:16] it will take you through setting up the db i tihnk [19:17] which you probably already did [19:17] make sure the hostname is localhost [19:17] or 127.0.0.1 [19:18] ok did it [19:18] i think mysql only listens on that ip.. depending on what options you chose at install [19:18] then run mythfrontend see if it connects [19:19] it works! [19:20] great [19:20] the installer says, you better dont enter a password, so I didnt, but entering my password worked out perfectly [19:21] styelz thanks a lot === mthaddon_ is now known as mthaddon [19:33] If the diskless server is set up right, I would be the happiest person in this chatroom :-D [19:38] heh [19:41] sweet, the hdhr lets me watch HD shows without any glitching [19:41] takes the load off my pooer P4 [19:42] im told i need to force AC3 audio for HD channels here [19:44] gumpert345: suss out all the options in mythbuntu control centre ayt [19:45] suss? [20:05] check [20:05] have a sniff [20:10] japp, already found them, now I hope it works [20:56] greetings all.. Nice work on the mythbuntu package.. i have to say.. thats the fastest ive ever set up myth from scratch [20:57] i do have one issue though, it appears that it didnt detect one of my cards... a techsan skystar2 that i use for ota, anyone wanna help me get that working? [20:59] are there any good guides / form posts go getting serial ir to work? I have been fighting with MCC and manually edding the conf files with no luck. [21:09] http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/m3ad7814e [21:13] you can see my conf file. I comeneted out the lines because they were not working for me [21:13] but maybe I have it wrong? [21:15] mythtv show this error : can not login to database server . i use fedora 10 [21:17] how do i get mythbuntu to keep my network settings.. althoguh i change it, it defaults back to dhcp somehow [21:18] fnc write your settings to a file [21:18] which one? [21:19] SADEGH_DIGITAL had the same problem today, I needed to type in the root password, when I did dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-database and was asked for the root accounts password, the first time I didnt because it sayed something like that [21:20] can I somehow update a diskless server image from 8.04 to 9.04 without changing the backend? [22:10] I used a usb stick for my frontend-diskless-server using MCC when I try to boot the frontend, I get this message: Retrying nbd mount Error: Connecting: Connection refused. how can I allow a connection?