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LjLNafallo, around - and busy?00:26
Nafalloyes to both :-)00:28
LjLNafallo: ok good, i'd never want to distract you when you're actually doing nothing and bored and might appreciate the disturbance00:30
LjLNafallo: just if and when you like, i suppose you know the song Flickan och kråkan? would like to know if my translation sounds decent in english http://paste.ubuntu.com/130398/00:31
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LjjjLi'm not on my client, can't do things quickly01:22
LjjjLif that was a false call, pelase -r01:22
LjjjLbut it was not01:22
LjL!ops | serious attacks being attempted01:26
ubottuserious attacks being attempted: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu,  imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, Madpilot, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso,  PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow, nickrud, jpds, bazhang, jussi01, Flannel or ikonia!01:26
ubottuLjL called the ops in #ubuntu-ops (serious attacks being attempted)01:26
FlannelOh, fun.01:26
FlannelJust when I have to leave.01:26
FlannelWell, good luck.  Hopefully others are awake to help if needde.01:27
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ubottuIn #launchpad, MTecknology said: !no foo is <reply>bar04:24
ubottuIn #launchpad, MTecknology said: !MTeck is sorry, just showing an example04:25
tritium@btlogin04:26
jdongsigh. :)04:37
jdongis ubotu really the messaging proxy? :)04:37
tritium@login04:41
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Myrttiörbönbörbön05:40
FlannelIs.... that what you say when you're eating candy?05:41
Myrttiit prolly would be what I'd say if I whacked my face into a bowl filled with müesli served *IN* and *WITH* a full pot of coffee.05:44
Myrttiwith high velocity05:44
MyrttiI feel like I need someone to shoot a gun by my ear so I'd wake up05:45
FlannelHoly cow06:21
FlannelMyrtti: -ot too06:22
Myrtti@bansearch kraft06:26
ubottuNo matches found for kraft!n=user@c-76-17-202-76.hsd1.mn.comcast.net in any channel06:26
FlannelI've seen him around, acting like a normal person, which is why I didn't ban him in #u, just removed.06:27
FlannelMmm, I wonder if I made that up.06:27
Myrttiand which is the reason I didn't kick him from -ot, just yelled at him06:27
Myrtti*sigh*07:10
ubottuIn #ubuntu, jel said: ubottu: easiest way is to wait for the next release of Ubuntu, which will be here in april.08:53
jpdsHaha; virtuald has a nice real name.09:40
* Myrtti tosses Friday European lunchtime link10:10
Myrttihttp://www.yvettesbridalformal.com/10:10
topylihehehe10:20
topyliooh music10:22
MezMyrtti: what phone is it that you have ?11:36
* Mez is thinking of getting an N9611:36
MyrttiN95. I'll probably upgrade to N86 once it's launched11:38
ikoniathe E71 is the choice of the sane11:39
Myrttiagree11:39
bazhangreally11:39
bazhangwhat about n8211:40
topylithe e-series is sane, the n-series is media devices11:40
MyrttiMez: hold on, I'll search my web of contacts about N9611:40
bazhang<thefeds> what do you call a phobia of linux?11:43
MyrttiMez: N96 doesn't have VOIP dialer... somehow I have the impression it's a bit limited in other ways as well11:49
shadeslayerLjL: you free??11:52
bazhangshadeslayer, how may we help you11:52
shadeslayerwell im banned from #ubuntu,and one of my friends needs help,i tried somethings but cant get his installation to work11:53
bazhangshadeslayer, then try the forums11:53
shadeslayeri was wondering if you could let me in for a brief time11:53
bazhangubuntuforums.org11:53
ikoniano11:53
shadeslayerwell i told him to get help from #ubuntu11:54
ikoniashadeslayer: this is not going to happen11:54
shadeslayerok11:54
ikoniashadeslayer: more so after you tried to ban dodge 30 seconds after leaving the channel last time11:54
bazhangixnay on the orumsfay?11:54
shadeslayerthank you 11:54
bazhangoh I see11:54
ikoniayou're welcome11:54
ikoniashadeslayer: anything else you need from us ?11:55
shadeslayerwill you guys please help him out,he is a newbie11:55
shadeslayerhis nick is vikas199011:55
shadeslayerthats all i ask11:55
ikoniashadeslayer: this is nothing to do with operator/abuse issues11:55
ikoniaif you have nothing else you need from us please leave the channel and go about your day11:55
shadeslayerthats a request11:55
shadeslayerok11:55
ikoniathats also shadeslayer11:56
ikoniahe's in #grub asking the same questions as vikas1990 in #ubuntu11:56
bazhangyep11:56
ikoniahard to prove it's him, different IP 11:57
ikonianot sure how to act11:57
bazhang@bansearch urgreat11:57
ubottuNo matches found for urgreat!*@* in any channel11:57
bazhang@login11:58
ubottuThe operation succeeded.11:58
ikonia@bansearch 59.177.130.20011:58
ubottuNo matches found for 59.177.130.200!*@* in any channel11:58
ikoniaoops11:58
ikonia@bansearch vikas199011:58
ubottuNo matches found for vikas1990!n=ubuntu@59.177.130.200 in any channel11:58
bazhangn=quassel@122.163.103.227)11:59
bazhangfor urgreat11:59
ikoniaugreat is not online though12:00
ikoniaI'm talking about vikas1990 shadeslayers "friend"12:00
bazhangmaybe they are two different people though12:00
bazhangand he is asking on his behalf12:01
ikoniawell, I doubt it as shadeslayer is in #grub asking the same queston12:01
ikoniapossibly12:01
bazhangoccams razor though12:01
bazhangTB`> I will check torrents for pysol12:05
bazhang:012:05
Mezwhy the e71?12:10
Mezhttp://www.mobilefun.co.uk/cat/Sim-Free-Nokia-Mobile-Phones.htm <-- where I can choose from (well, that or any of the other brands)12:11
ikoniaMez: beacause it rules12:13
bazhangheh12:13
bazhangwhat about me?12:13
Mezikonia: does it ?12:15
ikoniayes totally12:15
MyrttiI've got plenty of friends who work at Nokia12:15
MyrttiI've never heard them mention N9612:15
Myrttithey all have E7112:15
Myrttiit's our company base phone model as well12:15
Myrttiif you want a phone and are granted one, that's what you get.12:16
bazhang:/12:16
Myrttiit may lack on Multimedia junk12:16
Mezwell, it's more of a case of that's where I get my discount from12:16
Myrttibut I've heard that all the other features of E71 rock your socks off12:17
ikoniait is fine with multi-media junk12:17
Mezlol, though apparently it's not that much of a discount, as the discount's only on the markup12:17
ikoniait is mega mega mega overall 12:17
ikoniaI'm loving it12:17
ikoniamy socks are officially rocked off12:18
Mezwoo - £21 discount on it if I get one12:19
* Mez sighs12:19
NafalloSega Mega Drive?12:19
* Mez just wants a phone with GPS for geocaching :D12:20
* Nafallo just wants a phone with GPS to AVOID GETTING LOST!12:20
Nafalloand that's why I have two of them...12:20
Mezlol12:20
Myrttibazhang: that's an ok phone, a tad old though already but looks like peeps like it a lot12:22
bazhangMyrtti, the E71 is newer?12:22
Myrttiyeah12:22
Nafallohmm12:22
bazhangMyrtti, does it have usb/sdcard12:23
Myrttibazhang: d'oh?12:23
* Nafallo wonder what the current pricing on the N96 could be12:23
bazhangthat is all I care about12:23
Nafallo£459 still :-/12:23
bazhangcurrent one has only bluetooth, so need to bt to another phone, remove sdcard then attach to computer to get going12:23
Myrttiwhy does nokia.hk have cooler stuff than nokia.fi12:24
Myrttiunfair12:24
MezNafallo: £429.95 from my company (sim free)12:24
NafalloMez: really? what company is that?12:24
MezNafallo: http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/product/15893.htm12:24
Myrttibazhang: Up to 8 GB of expandable memory with micro SD card slot12:25
bazhangMyrtti, nice; thanks muchly12:25
NafalloMez: heh. you're cheaper than shop.nokia.co.uk :-P12:25
MyrttiUSB 2.0 via Micro USB interface and mass storage class support to support drag and drop functionality12:25
MezNafallo: good :D12:25
* ikonia ends sales pitch for E7112:25
bazhangwow that sounds awesome12:25
Nafallobazhang: N96 comes w/ 16GB and are expandable with an additional 32GB.12:25
Myrttibazhang: OOH.12:26
Nafallobazhang: just saying... :-)12:26
Myrttibazhang: Bluetooth wireless technology 2.0 with A2DP Stereo audio 12:26
MyrttiBADUMTSIH12:26
bazhangNafallo, hehe12:26
MezNafallo: and the e71 too12:26
MyrttiBT2.0 ♥ 12:26
bazhang48gb?12:26
MezNafallo: we seem to be cheaper than them on most things :d12:26
bazhangthat is 11 eeepcs!12:26
topylii would like useful bluetooth12:26
NafalloI would like bluetooth that doesn't drain the phone battery ;-)12:27
Myrttibluetooth2.0 always makes me drool profusely12:27
Nafallolike in... TOTAL DRAINAGE12:27
MyrttiNafallo: in theory bt2 handles that part better than 112:27
topyliNafallo: that and decent speeds would satisfy my definition of "useful" :)12:27
ikonia@mark #ubuntu-ops sladeshayer currently identified as shadeslayer so it can't be his mate, using the real name of "maddy" which is his ban dodging name that he says was his mate12:27
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Nafallotopyli: I only care about getting the music from the phone to the headset anyway :-)12:29
bazhangvikas changed to maddy? 12:29
ikoniano12:29
bazhangoh misread sorry12:29
topyliNafallo: i would like to copy music between computers and phones quickly as well12:29
Nafallotopyli: USB2?12:30
* Nafallo doesn't enable bluetooth on his lappy12:30
topyliNafallo: yep, but that is a CABLE :\12:30
bazhangtb` back for more12:30
Nafalloturned off in BIOS etc... :-)12:30
Nafallotopyli: it is an AWESOME cable though12:30
topylihehe12:30
topyliwith better battery life with bt, mobile internet would be nicer too. again, i'm using a CABLE for that right now12:31
MyrttiI can't wait for the N86 :-D12:32
Myrttithen I've got a "proper" camera12:32
ikoniathe only answer is an E71.....there can be but one 12:32
Myrttiikonia: I know I'd want one, but I want a decent camera12:33
Myrttithough *knockknock* it might be that that need may subside in future12:33
Myrttiif I get a real one12:33
ikoniathe E71 camera is "fine" 12:33
ikoniajust not mega12:34
ikoniaeverything else is 12:34
Myrttiikonia: it's still a downgrade from what I have now12:34
ikoniayes, 12:34
ikoniait's all about your needs12:34
bazhangthere can be but one? hahaha12:34
ikoniaif I can get this calander/contacts setup syncing from a central point then I will never need another device again 12:35
ikoniabazhang: I'm doing marketing for nokia ;)12:35
ikoniathat's my new slogan12:35
bazhangikonia, aha, your nick is a mashup of nokia12:35
bazhanginokia12:35
ikoniaha ha12:35
ikoniasomeone else said that ages ok12:35
bazhanghehe12:35
ikoniathats just co-incidence12:35
bazhangmmkay12:35
ikoniait is12:35
bazhangyep12:36
MyrttiiNokia12:36
ikoniauntil I got the E71 I couldn't give a monkeys about phones, they where just a phone device12:36
bazhangno connection what so ever12:36
ikoniaits only this year I've appriciated a handy device12:36
topylii always enjoyed nokia communicators and qwerty smartphones. recently downgraded to an e51 and got an eeepc12:37
ikoniatopyli: I was the opposite, always liked the dumbest phone handset, never saw the point or got on with smart phones....until the mighty E7112:37
bazhang<Ongavezirke> Hozsanna brotha12:38
Myrttihe again?12:39
Myrttiquassel251: *cough*12:39
quassel251oh crud. I always forget this has an auto join list12:40
ikoniajussi01 in dusguise, genni ?12:40
jussi01is me12:40
Myrttisilly rabbit12:40
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Myrttitricks are for kids12:40
Myrtti3 days, 10 hours!12:51
* elky is still trying to decide if blowing the vista partition away on the dell is worth it...12:58
ikoniaelky: it is12:59
elkyi have a reinstall dvd12:59
Myrttiit is then12:59
elkyalthough, it has already proven it's stability when installing updates for the vid driver13:00
elkyMyrtti, the problem is that if i decide i need it, it's going to be a 4+ hour wait to get it back on, and i dont know if it does so without blowing everything away13:01
elkyi mean, i want to blow away the system recovery partition too. it's a whole 10gb in itself13:02
Myrttielky: one word "virtualbox"13:04
elkyikonia, ever reinstalled a dell from the OS disc they include? does it overwrite everything, or behave properly13:04
elkyMyrtti, questionable legality there...13:05
MyrttiI wouldn't allow Windows TCP/IP stack touch hardware directly in any case13:05
ikoniaoverwrite everything13:05
ikoniait's one of those crapp "image restore" things13:06
elkyMyrtti, i dont know if a dell OEM would go into virtualbox anyway13:06
ikoniaas I recal it does some sort of hardware check13:06
ikoniaso probably not13:06
Myrttielky: the one I had on my optiplex 755 went fine for two first times13:07
Myrttierm, actually, it was XP, so I wouldn't be sure13:07
Myrttinvm13:07
Myrttiholy hell13:08
MyrttiKAVITY != KAVITA13:08
Myrttiwhoa13:08
elkymeh. i do still have an xp install...but while i did promise to try it properly, it did only come with vista home basic, so all the fun stuff isnt there13:09
ikoniathats crap 13:09
Myrttiditch the vista13:09
elkyMyrtti, kavita == asustek?13:10
Myrttiyeah13:10
Myrttiwell, kavita has been his ident13:10
elkyMyrtti, plus, the hostmask is completely not asustek's style13:10
Myrttiyeah13:10
Myrttineeds a small mental adjustment that13:10
ikoniajust got a pm from shadelayer telling me "from reading the logs he can I see I think he's vikas1990" how sad that he knows what he's doing with all his pathetic lies and games then reads the logs of the channel to try to come up with more lies/defenses13:11
elkyikonia, also, even the broadcom is working perfectly fine in the livecd :D13:12
ikoniahi shadeslayer - instead of reading these logs trying to work out how to come up with more lies to get unbanned - just stop behaving like a trouble maker and start telling the truth13:12
ikoniaelky: yes, it does work well13:12
elkyyou got the same one?13:13
elky1395 or whatever13:13
ikoniayes13:13
ikoniaI think....13:13
ikoniadamn, can't check it13:14
elkygah, now i gotta think of a name...13:14
ikoniagelf13:14
elkythat doesnt fit my 'mythical creatures' naming schema13:15
ikoniavixen13:16
elkyfemale foxes are not mythical :P13:16
ikoniaI thought it was a female "elf" thing too 13:18
elkymaybe, dunno. either way, elfs are humanoids, not 'creatures'/beasts13:18
ikoniacentaur 13:19
elkyold laptop is centaur, 701 is lamia, desktop is chimaera13:19
elkyikonia, i'm leaning towards manticore13:19
elkymy linode is phoenix (since i can rebirth that easy ;)), otherwise i'd have called this phoenix13:22
Myrttimedusa banshee pegasos 13:23
elkyalternatively, i could call it 'pegasus' as it's specs 'kill' the desktop pc13:23
elkyMyrtti, out of my brainz kthx13:23
ikoniaunicorn ?13:23
Myrttihttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ajatar13:25
Myrttihttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akka_(Spirit) :-P13:26
elkyi think i'll go with pegasus, and it's nickname can be 'peggy' tehehe13:31
ikoniaMyrtti: you wanted me ?13:59
ikoniaMyrtti: thanks !14:00
Erriettahello14:00
Erriettawhat14:00
Erriettawho put a limit14:00
Errietta:@14:00
ikoniaMyrtti: thanks again, you're quick and tidy14:02
Myrttihe's in my pm now14:02
ikoniawell he can change his atttiude14:02
ikonia"go to hell" and part14:02
ikoniaso he doesn't face the consiquences then come back 30 seconds later14:03
MyrttiHOW dense and RUDE14:05
ikoniayup14:05
Myrttiget 'im off, icky14:06
ikoniaclose the window 14:06
ikoniawalk away 14:06
Myrttiick ick14:06
MyrttiI'm not going to help a person that rude to do a script when I could and should be working on the script I'm getting paid for14:07
Myrttiignored14:08
bazhangerry makes panarchy look stable14:08
Erriettahi14:09
Erriettaunban me?14:09
Erriettai got banned w/o reason14:09
Erriettano seriously14:09
bazhangErrietta, do you know why you were banned?14:09
ErriettaNo14:09
Erriettai do not14:09
Erriettathat's why im saying there was NO reason14:10
Erriettaso either unban me14:10
Erriettaor help me fix my script14:10
Erriettawhich your "delightful" op can't dp14:10
bazhangthe omg go to hell?14:10
ikoniaErrietta: I banned you initially because of your atttiude14:10
ikoniaand you are proving that attitude in here 14:11
Errietta.14:11
ikoniaErrietta: so if you want to re-join the ubuntu channels I suggest you clam down and read the following documents14:11
bazhangErrietta, this is not a support channel14:11
Erriettaw/e14:11
ikonia!coc | Errietta 14:11
ubottuErrietta: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/14:11
ikonia!guidelines | Errietta 14:11
ubottuErrietta: The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines14:11
ikoniaErrietta: have a glance through them which outlines how to behave in the #ubuntu channels14:11
Erriettablah blah14:11
Erriettarules rules rules14:11
Erriettaur all rules and no help14:11
ikoniaErrietta: ok - so we'll leave it there then14:11
ikoniaErrietta: come back when you wish to discuss it 14:11
bazhangErrietta, if there is nothing else then please leave.14:11
Erriettaim not the one who's not wishing to discuss it14:12
Erriettayou're putting stupid limits14:12
Erriettayou never help people14:12
Erriettayou ban with almost no reason14:12
ikoniaErrietta: please leave14:12
Erriettawhat a helpful "help" channel14:12
Erriettau know what a help channel is for?14:12
ErriettaHELPING, maybe?14:12
ikoniaErrietta: come back when you are clamer and want to discuss it properly14:12
ErriettaJust saying!14:12
bazhangErrietta, your banned will not be lifted14:12
bazhangoops14:12
Myrttiuseless, pointless discussion14:12
bazhangyep14:12
Myrttihell come back in a flash though14:13
ikoniaMyrtti: exactly why I ended it, no point discussing it was just a rant14:13
ikoniathank you for removing him14:13
MyrttiI can't wait to see my ignorelog14:13
Myrttihe must be ranting and raving there14:14
* Myrtti huggles irssi and the useful scripts14:14
ikoniacheck out #freenode14:16
bazhang<Errietta> i have logs14:17
Myrttiwalk away unless you're hilighted14:18
Myrttistay away renee14:18
MyrttiI didn't ban anyone :-D14:20
MyrttiIKONIA DID!14:20
* Myrtti points her finger at ikonia14:20
bazhangiNokia14:20
bazhangerr ooops14:20
MyrttiI'd say something there about there being only one ban, but I don't want to draw his attention14:21
MyrttiTINFOIL!14:21
Myrttibawoop bawoop bawoop14:21
bazhangwhoa14:21
Myrttithe great conspiracy!14:21
bazhangthat is freaky14:22
MyrttiI'll go make popcorn14:24
bazhangnow he/she wants to be freenode admin14:24
MyrttiI can't help it14:24
MyrttiI have to laugh and chuckle14:24
bazhangmy script, my script14:25
bazhangI am guessing that rant wont go on much longer14:26
MyrttiI hope to god not14:26
bazhanguhoh caps time14:26
Myrttihilarious14:29
bazhangoof14:29
bazhang* Errietta (n=errietta@88.218.195.11114:42
ErriettaDIE14:42
Erriettaidiots14:43
Erriettai hope you're happy14:43
Erriettai just do14:43
Erriettayou started all of it14:43
bazhangErrietta, please read the code of conduct14:43
ErriettaI am not supposed to follow any rules14:43
Erriettabut you are supposed to be helpful14:43
ErriettaKet me ask you something14:43
Erriettaand answer honestly14:43
Erriettaplease14:43
bazhangErrietta, making threats and such wont advance your case14:44
Erriettahow many people, do you think, have read that code of conduct14:44
ErriettaAnswer honestly14:44
MyrttiI have.14:44
bazhanghundreds of thousands14:44
MyrttiI've signed it with my PGP key.14:44
bazhangsame14:44
ErriettaCUZ UR A NERX14:44
ErriettaNERD814:44
Erriettaim not sposed to read it14:44
Erriettaim not sposed to sign it14:44
Erriettaim not sposed to follow it 14:44
Erriettanot when the ops don't14:44
bazhangerUSUL, hi!14:45
erUSULhi14:45
bazhang:)14:45
Erriettaoh i bet14:45
Erriettahe's one of your friends14:45
MyrttiErrietta: are you willing to discuss your issue or are you just going to rant?14:45
Erriettacause he has read ur contract14:45
Erriettamy issue is this:14:45
Erriettaa) You don't help14:45
Myrttia) you're not helping yourself14:45
Erriettab) You kick me out and ban me because i'm mad at your not helping14:45
Erriettac) You continue not to help14:46
Myrttib) you're supposed to follow the channel rules14:46
Erriettad) You tell me to go to this channel or #freenode just to get me banned from there14:46
bazhangErrietta, this is volunteer help14:46
Erriettaok im sorry i misbehaved a bit14:46
Myrttic) we would help you get your ban off, if you'd do something more than rant14:46
ErriettaThen i could help14:46
Erriettaright?14:46
bazhangErrietta, not paid support14:46
Erriettathen i could help14:46
Myrttid) you didn't behave there either14:46
Erriettaanswer my question14:46
bazhangno14:46
Erriettaif this is not paid support14:46
Erriettaas you claim14:46
Erriettathen everyone can help14:47
Erriettaso i could help too14:47
Erriettabut i cant14:47
Erriettawhich means14:47
Erriettaits not a volunteer channel14:47
Errietta:)14:47
MyrttiErrietta: would you be quiet for a while so we can discuss this calmly? or are you going to just rant?14:47
bazhanginteresting but fatally flawed logic14:47
Myrttithere's some things you've not understood14:47
Erriettaok, let's discuss this calmly14:47
ErriettaLet's start by why i couldn't help, since it is a volunteer channel14:47
bazhangbeing abusive14:48
Erriettawhat if i wasn't14:48
Erriettawould you let me he;p?14:48
Myrttisomeone gave you the amount of help they could and gave you the tools to continue from there14:48
bazhangyou were.14:48
ErriettaWhat. If. I. Was. Not14:48
ErriettaYou know what "if" means?14:48
bazhangwhat if everyone could have ponies. you were.14:49
Myrtti[15:57] < Errietta> omg go to hell14:49
Errietta..14:49
ErriettaWHAT14:49
ErriettaIF14:49
ErriettaI WAS NOT14:49
Myrttiwhich part of that wasn't abusive?14:49
Errietta..14:49
Erriettadid i say i wasn't abusive?14:49
Erriettai said14:49
gnomefreakErrietta: please stop yelling i have a headache14:49
bazhangthis is calm?14:49
Erriettaif i wasn't then would you let me help?14:49
Erriettai try to be calm, but you just dont answer my questionm14:49
Myrttithat's the first requirement of being helped on this channel14:49
Errietta......14:50
Myrttiand this channel is trying to help you in getting into #ubuntu14:50
ErriettaPlease answer my question, dear Myrtti, or I'll assume the answer is "no"14:50
Myrttinot for helping with the script14:50
Errietta.....14:50
ErriettaDid you read my question14:50
Erriettaat all14:50
Myrttidid you14:50
Erriettadid i say anything about that script14:50
bazhangyep14:50
topyliErrietta: you will be thrown out of a pub in real life if you break their rules. this is the same thing14:50
Errietta..14:51
ErriettaOk14:51
Erriettai broke the rules14:51
Erriettai got banned14:51
topyliwhy is this channel hijacked by this person?14:51
Erriettalet's get over that14:51
Erriettaand get to my question14:51
bazhangok14:51
Erriettawhich you have not answered yet14:51
gnomefreaktopyli: not entirely sure yet still reading14:51
MyrttiI don't think my backlog reaches that far anymore14:51
bazhanghehe14:51
Errietta..14:51
ErriettaFOR THE LAST FRIGGING TIME EVERYONE14:51
gnomefreakErrietta: i asked you to stop yelling14:52
ErriettaEITHER ANSWER OR ILL ASSUME THE ANSWER IS "NO"14:52
bazhangno14:52
Erriettawhich would mean it's not a volunteer channel14:52
gnomefreakand no it wasnt a debate 14:52
MyrttiErrietta. Please Ask Your Question In One Line14:52
Errietta<Errietta> if i wasn't then would you let me help?14:52
Erriettathat is my question14:52
MyrttiBecause It's Very Difficult To Follow Your Ranting14:52
Errietta..14:52
Erriettai asked it 3 times already14:52
Myrttiand you're mudding the waters too.14:52
ErriettaAre you blind or retarded14:52
Erriettaif you're blind, i understand that14:53
Erriettaif you're retarded, then you should find another job14:53
bazhanghmm14:53
gnomefreakErrietta: that is not calm14:53
ErriettaCan you answer my question yet14:53
erUSULErrietta: Let's start by why i couldn't help, since it is a volunteer channel <<<< you can not help in the channel becouse of your attitude. Period.14:53
Erriettagnomefreak, i already explained i can't be calm when everyone is playing blind on my questions14:53
bazhangif you had not been banned we would not be having this convo14:53
MyrttiErrietta: if you assume I'm retarded, then you don't mind if I remove you from the channel, since you seem to assume bad faith on everyone14:53
gnomefreakErrietta: your going to have to be if you want help resolving this issue14:53
ErriettaAnd then i  asked, if my behavior was nice would you let me help?14:53
Erriettaand you haven't answered14:54
bazhangbut it was not14:54
bazhangQED14:54
Erriettaand this is the 4th time i ask14:54
bazhangand last I am guessing.14:54
gnomefreakErrietta: if doesnt matter since you were abusive14:54
Erriettahow many times do you think i should ask in order for you to answer?14:54
Errietta......14:54
Erriettaok14:54
MyrttiErrietta: if you would behave on the channel according the rules, probably, if I had the answers, time and energy14:54
Erriettaif another person, who isn't abusive, wanted to help, would you let him?14:54
Myrttibut since you didn't14:54
Erriettacause i DOUBT it14:54
Erriettaud just go14:54
gnomefreakErrietta: whne you can behave in a civil manner than it can be discussed14:54
Errietta"ur not op u cant help"14:55
Erriettaand kickban me14:55
Myrttiwanted to HAVE help, or want to GIVE help?14:55
Erriettahelp as a verb means give help14:55
gnomefreakwe are all ops in the discussion14:55
Erriettai know some english, atleast14:55
Erriettaoh my god14:55
Erriettayou're stupid14:55
Erriettaforget it14:55
MyrttiErrietta: some of us aren't native speakers of English.14:55
bazhangok14:55
Erriettayou're not going to understand what i'm asking14:55
Erriettaneither am i14:55
bazhangErrietta, if there is nothing else, please part the channel14:56
Erriettabut even if you didn't know english14:56
Erriettai'm not asking something so hard14:56
bazhangErrietta, your ban will not be removed14:56
ErriettaDo you let people who're not ops help?14:56
ErriettaTHat's great14:56
ErriettaCan you answer my question, please14:56
MyrttiErrietta: yes, the #ubuntu channel is full of people who are not ops.14:56
ErriettaWhich means it is a volunteer channel14:56
gnomefreakErrietta: as long as they follow the COC and the other rules applied to a channel14:56
Erriettasince it is a volunteer channel14:57
Erriettayou can't kick anyone off14:57
ikoniathis is poitnless again14:57
Erriettacause they're all volunteers14:57
Myrttiall ops have been non-ops, been chosen for being an op because of their patience and other virtues, including behaving according to the document you refuse to read14:57
ikoniaErrietta: come back when you are prepared to discuss this calmly14:57
bazhangand volunteer means you get an answer when it is available14:57
Erriettaand u cant remove their vhosts14:57
Erriettaa friend gave me that14:57
Erriettanot a staffer14:57
bazhangnot when you wish it14:57
Erriettawhy was it removed?14:57
Erriettathe answer was available14:57
Erriettahowever the "volunteer" refused to give it14:57
Myrttiwild guess, because you were abusive14:57
Erriettayou had no right to remove it14:57
Erriettaa friend gave it not a staffer14:57
bazhangin here, #ubuntu, and in #freenode14:58
Myrttiwe *CAN'T* remove it14:58
ErriettaTHEN HOW DID YOU14:58
gnomefreakdid he read the COC or we havent pointed him to it yet :(14:58
bazhangwe didnt14:58
Myrttiwe had NOTHING do do with taking your cloak away14:58
Erriettai'm not a he14:58
bazhangyep gnomefreak 14:58
Erriettadoes my name seem like a he's name?>14:58
gnomefreakErrietta: sorry she than14:58
Erriettayou sexist and racist freaks14:58
ikoniaErrietta: this is not an ubuntu issue, please talk to freenode staff about it14:58
gnomefreakErrietta: i stopped guessing a long time ago14:58
ikoniaErrietta: come back if you wish to discuss your ban like an adult14:58
Myrttiho------ HUM14:58
bazhangwow14:59
gnomefreakthat was at least 3 times with the name calling14:59
gnomefreakand not to me but everyone14:59
MyrttiI'm a sexist and racist ;__________________;14:59
* gnomefreak checks PM :(14:59
* erUSUL feels like Davind Attemborough... watching the troll in its natural habit....14:59
* Myrtti sobs14:59
Myrttiif this were IRCnet15:00
ikoniaI don't see the point of discussing anything with that attitude15:00
Myrttiand thank GAIA it isn't15:00
Myrttishe would have been told to GTFO, and that's it.15:00
MyrttiI love you guys15:00
gnomefreakthere explained to him15:00
Myrttiher15:00
gnomefreakok her sorry "him" is a general term i know the "her" of normal users but this one i didnt know15:01
gnomefreaki really wish the pm's would stop15:01
* Myrtti huggles her ignorelog script15:02
Myrtti/home/users/myrtti/.irssi/scripts/autorun/ignore_log.pl15:02
Myrtti15:02
Mezignorelog ?15:03
Myrttiooh, how nice15:03
MyrttiMez: ignore is a clientside feature15:04
Myrttiit's up to your client app to not display the messages you've ignored15:04
Myrttiso a script can be used to pipe those ignored messages to alog15:04
Piciwow15:06
ErriettaHello15:06
gnomefreaki told her if she can be polite and follow the rules she can feel free to discuss this further15:06
* gnomefreak sorry was still typing15:06
Erriettai um uh... im...15:06
Erriettaim..15:06
ikoniaErrietta: how can we help you no?15:07
ikonianow15:07
Erriettaum15:07
Erriettaim---15:08
ikoniaErrietta: if you have nothing to say - please leave the channel this is a no idle channel15:08
Erriettawait15:08
Erriettai do15:08
Erriettai just dk how they call that word15:08
Erriettatry to help15:08
bazhangok15:08
Errietta5 letters? starts with s?15:08
ikoniaErrietta: you know the word15:08
ikoniastop messing around15:08
Erriettai do not15:08
Erriettaooooh15:08
Erriettaim sorry?15:08
ikoniaErrietta: ok - so how can we help ?15:08
bazhangare you?15:08
Erriettayeah15:09
Erriettai am15:09
ikoniaErrietta: ok - so how can we help you ?15:09
gnomefreakbazhang: i think so but time will tell15:09
Erriettaikonia,i just wanted to say that that's all15:09
ikoniaErrietta: ok - thanks. 15:09
Errietta:)15:09
gnomefreakok smoke for now. 15:09
ikoniaErrietta: if there is nothing else, as I said this is a no idle channel 15:09
ErriettaI don't smoke..15:09
* Myrtti gets more coffee into her mug15:09
ErriettaWell i'd better go..15:10
ikoniaok15:10
ikoniabye15:10
Erriettaaltho id like some company15:10
Erriettabut--15:10
Erriettawell15:10
Erriettabye15:10
Seeker`what on earth was that?15:12
MezMyrtti: but ignores are there to be ignored?15:12
MyrttiMez: being an op and ignoring people isn't a constructive combination15:14
MyrttiI could just "not read" the stuff annoying people send me, but I've noted a trait in me, that I can't.15:15
gnomefreakdoes anyone get digest mails from -devel and -devel-discuss by chance?15:15
Myrttiand I've also noted that the more abusive the stuff gets, I get really distressed.15:15
Myrttiusing real ignore, that keeps the msg windows from my face, but still keeps a log (as I do log ALL my pm's anyway) is a great way to do this.15:16
Myrttialso, if there's ever a case where I need to get those logs, they're there.15:17
Picignomefreak: sometimes I wish I did, concidering the amount of replies from the launchpad rant thread.15:19
gnomefreakPici: i cant seem to get any using digest mode but without it i get tons and no way to pipe it to a folder15:20
ikoniasparklehistory ? sparkleponies ?15:24
ikoniasparklelogbot ?15:25
bazhangme tightens the tinfoil15:25
Picio.O15:25
ikoniacouldn't care less either way 15:26
LjLYAY SPARKLES15:29
ikoniasparkles everywhere la la la15:29
bazhangactually he/she has spoken in the past, ie not a bot15:29
ikoniadunno15:29
bazhangyep15:30
LjLno he's not a bot15:30
LjLi remember him from long15:30
bazhangrare, but happens15:30
bazhang* erry (n=errietta@88.218.195.11115:41
bazhangbanned from #apache too?15:44
bazhangthis is getting to be like ongazirve15:44
ikoniawhock horror15:44
ikoniashock horror15:44
Myrttiwild guesses about age taken in.15:45
Myrttiyou know16:06
MyrttiI know this is paradoxal16:06
Myrttibut I really hate people who complain, and complain, and complain.16:07
PiciMe tooo16:07
Myrttiand I *especially* hate people, who complain about the quality of service for which they haven't paid for.16:07
pleia2quit complaining about complaining, complainters :)16:07
pleia2-t16:07
* pleia2 hugs Myrtti 16:07
Myrttior, complain about a service that's given for free16:07
PiciI'm glad I wasn't around when Errietta was here.16:08
MyrttiI think that issue has potential to turn for better16:08
ikoniaI disagree based on his performance in #freenode16:10
ikoniaand his pretty insulting private messages16:10
Pici#freenode took his/her cloak away for that behavior16:14
Myrtti[18:11] <user1_> hi16:15
Myrtti[18:11] ~~~user1_ [n=user1@adsluser705.att.sch.gr]16:15
Myrtti[18:11] ~~~End of WHOIS16:15
Myrtti[18:11] <user1_>  where are you from?????16:15
Myrttioh, right16:15
ikoniaPici: yup, and rightly so 16:15
Myrttiyou should have told me16:15
Picisorry16:15
MyrttiI said *potential* ;-)16:15
Myrttipleia2: pm?16:22
pleia2Myrtti: sure16:23
PiciUgh, more complainers.16:37
ikoniayes but they are complaining about nonsense they don't understand16:38
ikoniawhy can't you boot ubuntu CDRom when you don't have a cdrom drive......16:38
ikonia"really" 16:38
ikoniahome time16:42
ikonialaters guys16:42
Picicyas16:42
MezMyrtti: thats why I dont ignore people. 16:54
Myrtti!search recurs17:21
ubottuFound: recursion-#ubuntu-offtopic, recursive, resetpanel17:21
LjL!forget recursive17:22
ubottuI'll forget that, LjL17:22
Myrttinooooooo17:23
Myrttiyou broke it17:23
MyrttiI was going to have it go in loop17:23
Myrtti!search recurs17:24
ubottuFound: recursion-#ubuntu-offtopic, recursive*, resetpanel17:24
Myrtti!recursive17:26
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about recursive17:26
Myrtti!recursion-#ubuntu-offtopic17:26
ubottusee: !recursion17:26
LjL[19:05:50] <-- R42 has left this server (Remote closed the connection).18:06
LjL[19:05:50] <-- CoskunD has left this server (Remote closed the connection).18:06
LjL[19:05:50] <-- LasT-Ottom4N has left this server (Remote closed the connection).18:06
LjLat the same time18:06
LjLlook at their whowases18:06
Myrttidifferent ip's18:08
Myrttiweird18:08
MyrttiOrgName:    SHARKTECH INTERNET SERVICES18:08
MyrttiOrgName:    SHARKTECH INTERNET SERVICES18:09
MyrttiI bet the third one is registered by that company too18:09
LjLMyrtti: but very interesting hostnames18:10
LjL(wow, i thought i could survive a /who #ubuntu... and i did, barely, but still wow)18:10
LjLi suspect there are more18:10
LjLwe had an attempted attack yesterday (by check who on the BT)18:11
LjLand that mister versioned a floodbot18:11
Picieeenteresting18:11
LjLwhen he realized the bots had stopped the mass join18:11
LjLthought i'd send a subtle hint. *shrug*18:16
Myrttielky: ping18:23
LjL[19:41:39] <meoblast001> language isn't the only bad thing in the world18:42
LjL[19:41:52] <LjL> i have and i have read that article. i don't agree with it. so i've got nothing to correct.18:42
LjL[19:42:06] <LjL> also, if you have issues with the way the channels are run, you'd be better off bringing them out in #ubuntu-ops probably18:42
Myrtticancer and war aren't the only bad thing in the world either18:44
Myrttidoesn't mean that we should stop caring18:44
LjLMyrtti: the link we're talking about is mjr's by the way.18:44
LjLhe probably won't join here though in the end.18:44
Myrttimeoblast or mjr?18:44
LjLmeoblast18:44
MyrttiLjL: mind tossing me link on pm, I've misplaced it from my collection?18:49
LjLMyrtti: BT has it on meoblast18:50
Myrttioh, ok.18:50
Myrttiit's too long, cba to read.18:51
Myrtti:-D18:51
Myrttibut yeah - that.18:52
Myrttithanks.18:52
Picimeh18:54
MyrttiI agree19:00
balzachello19:04
balzacwhen I join #ubuntu I get re-directed here, which I don't mind19:04
Myrttibut?19:05
balzacexcept that sometimes I have technical questions19:05
balzacWhen are the ops going to let me off the hook?19:05
balzacYou guys should treat me good. I'm an influential blogger. 19:06
balzacI wouldn't want to have to say the ubuntu ops are a little bit uptight or anything...19:06
LjLbalzac: then tell you what19:06
balzacjk19:06
Myrttioh, that sentence has no news value19:07
LjLme too, don't worry19:07
balzacnews value?19:07
LjLwhen i say "get your blog to go to fuck off", i'm only kidding19:07
Myrttiblackmail is always the way to go ^____^19:07
balzacI have a feeling you might get chided by someone higher up if you don't keep a good sense of humor19:07
Myrttigets you into peoples' heart19:08
balzacLjL: I take that as a joke19:08
LjLbalzac: oh yes19:08
LjLthey might reprimand me19:08
balzacchiding isn't such a big deal19:08
MyrttiLjL: naughty LjL!19:08
balzacI didn't say reprimand, I said chide19:08
LjLwell i don't know what chide means so.19:08
balzacMyrtti: not blackmail19:08
balzacjust pulling rank on IRC ops, if I can pull it off19:09
Myrttibalzac: then what do you call if [  ];then else fi?19:09
balzacnot saying I can but I might try the end-run19:09
MyrttiI call that blackmail19:09
balzacMyrtti: that's silly19:09
LjLMyrtti: a forkbomb written by someone who hasn't yet learned the difference between loops and branches?19:09
Myrttiso are you19:09
* Pici sighs19:09
LjLbalzac: now leave this channel19:10
balzacAll I'm saying is that as Seeker` has said before, I'm a bit of a whiner19:10
LjLand come back with a different attitude19:10
balzacand I'm sort of persistent about engaging bureaucratic organizations until it reaches its logical conclusion.19:10
Myrttiwas that a fork bomb I just saw?19:12
MyrttiI think I did19:12
MyrttiLjL: ?19:12
balzacso I like to hang out here19:13
Myrttijimi__hendrix19:13
LjLMyrtti: is.... corrrrect!19:13
Myrttithanks19:13
balzacbut it's funny that I tried to join #ubuntu and ended up in #ubuntu-ops19:13
MyrttiI wasn't sure, I've not seen that many of those so wanted to check19:13
LjLyeah you're right19:13
balzacAm I about to be honored by +o status? 19:13
LjLsilly ikonia19:13
LjLi'll just turn that into a ban19:14
balzacdon't do that19:14
MyrttiLjL: sounds good19:14
balzacI'm not a jerk or anything19:14
balzacHey, I didn't do /j #ubuntu-ops19:14
balzacit's almost like an invite I got19:14
balzacI feel like a guest today19:14
Myrttiwas there anything else? you must know about our idle policy by now19:14
LjLwell you should have learned that you're banned by now.19:15
LjLyeah, what did i tell you... five minutes ago?19:15
balzacwell, who has me banned?19:15
balzacand why?19:15
LjL[20:10:01] <LjL> balzac: now leave this channel19:15
LjL[20:10:05] <LjL> and come back with a different attitude19:15
balzacmaybe I can say something conciliatory19:15
balzacbut today, someone made me a guest here19:15
MyrttiI liked the part about telling the world we're uptight19:15
balzacI'd like to know who brought me here, ikonia ?19:15
Myrttiit made me feel all fuzzy and warm inside19:15
Myrttifull of love and all19:15
balzacMyrtti: don't be uptight about it19:15
balzacI said "kind of uptight"19:16
balzacwell, don't you think a ban can get the point across if it is in effect for a few days?19:16
balzachow long do I really deserve to be banned?19:16
LjLyou know what gets it across better19:16
LjLjimi__hendrix: please don't post forkbombs in the channel19:17
LjLjimi__hendrix: although i apologize for banning you - you're unbanned19:17
jimi__hendrixthank you19:17
jimi__hendrixa simple warning would have been enough :)19:17
LjLjimi__hendrix: that's true19:17
LjLjimi__hendrix: i hadn't read the whole conversation accurately enough.19:17
jimi__hendrixok thanks19:18
LjLsorry about that.19:18
Seeker`i still dont see why people talk to balzac for so long in here20:08
Picimasochism?20:09
Myrttiyeah.20:09
MyrttiI like poking owwies20:09
Seeker`how about just poking him with a kickban next time?20:12
=== Gary is now known as evilGary
Seeker`evilGary: ?20:13
evilGarymwhaha20:13
MyrttiOH NOES20:13
MyrttiRUUUUNNNNNN20:14
Seeker`pfft20:15
=== SportChick is now known as evilessy
Tm_Tkids...20:16
* Myrtti whimpers20:16
Seeker`evilGary is about as scary as a feather duster20:16
evilGarythat scary?20:17
evilGarywow20:17
Seeker`ok, that may have been a bit of an exageration20:17
Tm_Tbit?20:17
Tm_Tmay?!20:18
* Tm_T slaps Seeker` 20:18
evilGaryslappings?  woot20:18
Seeker`:(20:18
LjL /nick ElJayEvil20:40
evilGaryno no no /nick evilLjL :p20:44
Seeker`no no no /nick eviLjL20:49
LjLlemme guess, everyone in sportchick's channel had to change nicks to something evil?21:36
evilessyLjL: nope, it didn't start there at all :)21:36
LjLwell it's not all staffers so... uhm21:36
evilGaryit's a fair few21:38
=== Pricey is now known as EvilChild
evilGaryevilessy: where did it start?21:38
LjLi can't find a pattern21:38
LjLI CAN'T FIND A PATTERN21:38
LjLEvilChild: we already knew *that* much21:38
LjLwhat should evilGUI in -ot do21:40
LjLevilEvilGUI?21:40
* Amaranth wonders how to make his nick evil21:46
LjLi cannot. i'm in channels that don't let me change nicknames.21:46
LjLevil channels.21:46
AmaranthLjL: you're in +m channels where you aren't +v?21:47
LjLyeah -read-topic21:47
LjLno not -read-topic, which one is it21:47
LjLbof, anyway21:48
=== LjL is now known as EviljL
EviljLi think i can change nicknames after all21:49
evilGarywoot21:50
EviljLevilGary: now who's gonna do the mass kick for nickspam?21:52
=== Amaranth is now known as EvilAm
EvilAmwhee21:54
EviljLfreenode doesn't have a 9 char nick limit anyway...21:55
EvilAmpeople in #xfce-dev are probably really confused21:56
=== EvilAm is now known as Amaranth
=== EviljL is now known as LjL
evilGaryboring22:07
bazhang^^22:10
bazhangugh22:26
bazhanggroovyOrange has arrived22:26
bazhangmeh annoying23:13
bazhangnow I understand j dong's pain23:13
jdong*grin* :)23:17
bazhanghe is just throwing stuff out there23:18
bazhangheh 'specific to internet'23:42
Seeker`eugh something up with jussi01's shell23:48
Seeker`or rather, my shell on his host23:48

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