[00:00] <sixofour> how do i add ppa to apt-get?
[00:00] <sixofour> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/tobydox/ppa/ubuntu intrepid main
[00:00] <sixofour> deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/tobydox/ppa/ubuntu intrepid main
[00:00] <Dr_Willis64> !ppa
[00:00] <sixofour> uh
[00:00] <sixofour> is that the same thing?
[00:00] <mefisto__> lol "ISPs have resolved" what, all of them?
[00:00] <Dr_Willis64> there is no ONE ppa repo - every one can have their own
[00:01] <Dr_Willis64> unless im confused about them :)
[00:02] <mefisto__> sixofour: you would add those lines to /etc/apt/sources.list
[00:03]  * cjae appologizes about pasting link but should be read at the very least
[00:17] <PullTab> Why are there no screensavers in the adept library?
[00:18] <PullTab> how to I update my system?
[00:18] <PullTab> how to I update my system? with the adept program?
[00:26] <josh-l> dudes jaunty alpha 6 is really alright
[00:37] <ryzzan> Istehre any real good p2p for linux to find mp3?
[00:37] <ryzzan> is there*
[00:38] <ryzzan> was that a difficult one or you are sleeping?
[00:38] <ryzzan> :P
[00:39] <mefisto__> josh-l: jaunty may be alright at the moment, but that could completely change at any time between now and release date
[00:39] <mefisto__> josh-l: I suppose you could just not upgrade anything
[00:40] <hil> thats the fun on riding alpha-versions ;)
[00:42] <ryzzan> are you reading me?
[00:42] <hil> sure
[00:42] <ryzzan> :)
[00:42] <ryzzan> hil... what's your favourite psp for linux to download mp3?
[00:43] <hil> ktorrent
[00:43] <ryzzan> wel... i just can't find the rare stuff on torrents
[00:43] <ryzzan> ty anyway
[00:44] <Haza> use search engines i guess
[00:44] <hil> that was a better question. asking for 'real good' is ... difficult to answer.
[00:44] <ryzzan> is tehre a soulseek client dor linux?
[00:44] <Haza> ryzzan: Did you check on the site?
[00:45] <thepizzanator> mefisto__: jaunty isn't officially released yet...?
[00:45] <hil> PySoulSeek .. google is your friend
[00:45] <thepizzanator> i'm confused
[00:45] <Haza> or.. beter yet. google the string "soulseek linux"
[00:45] <mefisto__> thepizzanator: no, release is in april. around 23rd I think
[00:46] <Haza> A new release??#
[00:46] <mefisto__> thepizzanator: 9.04 = 2009 04 (april)
[00:46] <ryzzan> just asking my "expert friends" if tehy use one actually... and if it really works... cuz soulseek have those servers problems...
[00:46] <Haza> o.0 damn =/
[00:46] <ryzzan> well
[00:46] <ryzzan> whatever
[00:46] <ryzzan> ty
[00:47] <Haza> ryzzan: Thanks for making sense. Good luck!
[00:48] <drozdak> anyone know how to set qt style and font antialiasing in root apps (such as adept) on kde 3.5.10?
[00:50] <JontheEchidna> drozdak: kdesudo systemsettings
[00:50] <drozdak> thanks
[00:51] <Uh-huh> Alrighty then..........Say I have a kubuntu disc that is not labeled as to which version it is. How can I find the version of this distro?
[00:51] <mefisto__> JontheEchidna: would copying ~/.kde to /root/.kde work? or will that break something?
[00:51] <JontheEchidna> hmm, dunno about that
[00:51] <hx> #compiz
[00:52] <a> hi
[00:53] <a> hi
[00:55] <Uh-huh> No one then out of 305 people?
[00:56] <goofey> Uh-huh: there's a text file on the disk that will tell you
[00:56] <hil> Uh-huh: look for ubnpathl.txt or similiar in _root path of cd
[00:56] <mefisto__> Uh-huh: look in the /dists/ directory. if it's intrepid, there will be an intrepid folder, etc
[00:56] <Uh-huh> Okay thank you
[01:03] <soulasassin> anybody in here good with installation issues?
[01:25] <GentooJohnny> hmm
[01:26] <GentooJohnny> wonder is kde 4.x is better than kde 3X
[01:31] <soulasassin> anybody in here any good with installation problems?
[01:34] <tl2xlcc> привет
[01:35] <bazhang> !ru
[01:44] <shortart> DSL via router won't connect to internet
[01:51] <damian> Hola, hay alguien?
[01:52] <mauri29> hola damian
[01:52] <mauri29> yo acabo de entrar, y es la primera vez.. probando el programa
[01:52] <damian> Yo también
[01:53] <mauri29> ya que estoy, tu tienes (o alguien más) el problema de que Firefox se tranca en la ventana de videos de YouTube? ..alguna solución?
[02:05] <doleyb> !es
[02:06] <mauri29> ok sorry
[02:06] <mauri29> and thanks for the message
[02:06] <zombine> anyone know how to change the color fields for the code collapse feature in Kate 4
[02:07] <DarkTan> n/quit
[02:11] <new2rails> hi
[02:11] <Ninjamonkey> I am using kubuntu on a ps3 with no internet connection.  At the moment I am trying to get multimedia to work.  I have looked at vlc, and there are way too many dependencies to download.  what packages would i need to play my divx, mp4, xvid and h.364 videos?  Would this be as difficult as downloading the vlc packages mauaally
[02:11] <Ninjamonkey> ?
[02:12] <new2rails> i lost my kde desktop
[02:12] <new2rails> and have a gnome desktop now
[02:12] <new2rails> any help would be great
[02:12] <new2rails> seems like it happened after using natalius with dropbox on kubuntu 8.10
[02:12] <new2rails> ??
[02:14] <fedler> hey new2rails
[02:14] <new2rails> fedler: hi
[02:14] <Ninjamonkey> what engine does caffeine use by default? gstreamer or xine?
[02:14] <fedler> did you have a question? i only caught from any help would be great
[02:14] <fedler> not sure how helpful i can be but i will try
[02:15] <new2rails> fedler: ok thanks
[02:15] <fedler> Ninja: Xine
[02:16] <Ninjamonkey> thanks
[02:16] <fedler> np
[02:17] <Ninjamonkey> will libxine-ffmpeg enable me to play all those codecs?
[02:17] <fedler> if you are running Kubuntu you should try installing kubuntu-restricted-extras and that will give you all the codecs flash and java6
[02:18] <Ninjamonkey> I have no internet, thus no apt
[02:18] <Ninjamonkey> it is pure hell
[02:19] <fedler> well just download the deb to another computer and then transfer it to your offline machine
[02:19] <Ninjamonkey> There are a ton of dependencies. is there some way anyone could apt either that package or vlc for me, then use aptoncd to make an iso and rapidshare it?
[02:20] <fedler> i have the entire repo available on this cpu but i cant remember how to get a dependency list
[02:21] <Ninjamonkey> http://aptoncd.sourceforge.net/download.html
[02:21] <fedler> why do you want it on rapidshare?
[02:22] <Ninjamonkey> or just send it through irc
[02:22] <Ninjamonkey> I just need a way to get the file
[02:22] <Ninjamonkey> s
[02:22] <fedler> 142.207.92.234/ubuntu
[02:22] <fedler> i have the entire repo there
[02:22] <fedler> should get full speed
[02:22] <Guest89060> how to get drivers webcam for ubuntu????????????????????????????????????????????????
[02:22] <Ninjamonkey> which folder should i grab?
[02:22] <Guest89060> pls help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[02:23] <fedler> one sec i will grab the folder for you
[02:23] <Ninjamonkey> oh crud, I'm running 7.10
[02:23] <Ninjamonkey> not intrepid
[02:23] <fedler> guest did you try opening in kopete?
[02:23] <Guest89060> i'm looking 4 drivers webcam of ubuntu 8.10!!!!!!!!!!!
[02:23] <Ninjamonkey> and its ppc... should have thought of that
[02:23] <Ninjamonkey> im a fool
[02:23] <Guest89060> ok i'll try it
[02:23] <fedler> sorry only support x86 and x86_64 on this machine
[02:24] <Ninjamonkey> yeah
[02:24] <Ninjamonkey> anyone here use ppc ubuntu?
[02:24] <Ninjamonkey> god ps3 ubuntu is a pain
[02:24] <fedler> you can get it from the repo
[02:24] <Ninjamonkey> yeah, just downloading all the dependencies is going to suck
[02:24] <new2rails> fedler: hi
[02:24] <Guest89060> drivers webcam for ubuntu???????????????????????????
[02:25] <fedler> http://packages.ubuntu.com/ <---- Ninja
[02:25] <Guest89060> please!!!!!!!!
[02:25] <Guest89060> name????????''
[02:25] <fedler> Guest open it in kopete messenger and click webcam and tell me what it does
[02:25] <fedler> hi rails
[02:25] <new2rails> Guest89060: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam
[02:25] <new2rails> fedler: hi
[02:26] <new2rails> fedler: any ideas on how to restore my kde desktop
[02:26] <Guest89060> ubuntu webcam drivers pls!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[02:26] <fedler> oh sorry ... what happened?
[02:26] <new2rails> fedler: everything appears as gnome
[02:26] <new2rails> fedler: seems after i install dropbox and the natalius repositories
[02:27] <fedler> did you switch your session at gdm?
[02:27] <fedler> if you logout click session and select kde
[02:27] <new2rails> fedler: ok
[02:27] <fedler> try that message me back if no good
[02:27] <new2rails> fedler: let me give it shot
[02:27] <new2rails> fedler: should i remove natalius?
[02:27] <fedler> no
[02:27] <new2rails> ok thanks
[02:28] <fedler> np
[02:29] <hilx> hehe, well he should. but dont has to ;)
[02:32] <new2rails> fedler: thanks
[02:32] <fedler> no problem
[02:32] <fedler> i assume you are good not
[02:32] <fedler> now
[02:32] <new2rails> fedler: it works but can i have it default to kde
[02:32] <new2rails> not gnome
[02:32] <fedler> should default there automatically for you now
[02:33] <fedler> if not it will ask you the next time you choose kde
[02:33] <new2rails> fedler: can u explain to me what went wrong
[02:33] <new2rails> my text does seem a little smaller now
[02:33] <new2rails> though
[02:33] <fedler> nothing you asked it to install nautalius right
[02:33] <fedler> that is the file manager for gnome
[02:34] <new2rails> yes
[02:34] <new2rails> so should leave it then
[02:34] <fedler> you are fine
[02:34] <new2rails> what would happen if i removed it just curious?
[02:34] <fedler> but may i ask why you installed it?
[02:34] <new2rails> getdropbox.com
[02:35] <new2rails> i was trying to install dropbox and it seems it automatically added the repositories
[02:35] <fedler> oh ok
[02:35] <fedler> well that is weird that it had to install an entire deskop to function
[02:35] <new2rails> yea
[02:36] <fedler> did it install them from ubuntu or from their repos
[02:36] <new2rails> yea i used the ubuntu repos
[02:36] <new2rails> for 8.04
[02:36] <fedler> well your fine
[02:36] <fedler> you just have a second desktop/window manager now
[02:36] <new2rails> thanks
[02:36] <fedler> np
[02:37] <fedler> if you are concerned for space
[02:37] <fedler> search for purging ubuntu-desktop
[02:37] <fedler> there is a couple safe ways of doing so through the command line but i wouldnt
[02:38] <hilx> this wd remove nautilus, too
[02:38] <hilx> just keep it
[02:38] <hilx> dropbox uses a nautilus plugin to function
[02:39] <fedler> he is awhere of this
[02:40] <jon__> 驱动问题
[02:51] <cryptonic_sonic> Hi everyone
[02:55] <koufuku> Hi!
[03:07] <dkkong>  I"m having problems with my computer's resolution. It detects my resolution wrong and has a 0 refresh rate, since reconfiguring xserver-xorg isn't an option, what can I do?
[03:28] <luke_> I'm new to kubuntu and i'm loving it, but i was wondering if any of you could reccomend some good non-default apps for me to look into
[03:29] <luke_> also, i'm looking to download firefox but i couldn't find the program itself in the pkg manager
[03:29] <bazhang> luke_, from repos? ppa?
[03:29] <luke_> sorry?
[03:29] <Guest72505> Hey, does anyone know dansguardian here?
[03:29] <bazhang> firefox?
[03:29] <luke_> i'm pretty new to all this
[03:29] <luke_> yeah, i want to use firefox...
[03:29] <bazhang> !find firefox
[03:29] <bazhang> !info firefox-3
[03:30] <luke_> which one of those do i want...?
[03:30] <luke_> :/
[03:30] <bazhang> !info firefox-3.0
[03:30] <bazhang> sudo apt-get install firefox-3.0
[03:31] <luke_> alright ill see if that works
[03:31] <luke_> hold on
[03:31] <bazhang> it will :)
[03:32] <luke_> you're a lifesaver
[03:32] <luke_> thanks!
[03:32] <luke_> hey, do you have any cool themes you'd reccomend?
[03:32] <bazhang> what other apps did you have in mind?
[03:32] <luke_> i like the default but
[03:32] <luke_> um
[03:32] <luke_> image editing stuff
[03:32] <bazhang> kde-look.org
[03:32] <luke_> does gimp work on kde?
[03:32] <bazhang> sure
[03:32] <luke_> awesome
[03:33] <luke_> i'll install that next
[03:33] <bazhang> all gnome apps do in fact
[03:33] <luke_> what about gimpshop
[03:33] <luke_> :D cool
[03:33] <bazhang> !info gimpshop
[03:33] <luke_> darn
[03:33] <bazhang> !find gimpshop
[03:33] <bazhang> hmm
[03:34] <hilx> u have to download this from website
[03:34] <luke_> gimpshop?
[03:34] <hilx> but they have older gimpversions i think
[03:34] <Guest72505> I've found that if using compiz-fusion that any KDE program that was closed when maximised opens again fullscreen. Has anyone else experienced that?
[03:34] <luke_> yeah, they do
[03:34] <hilx>  use gimp as it is
[03:34] <luke_> i'll stick with gimp, might as well learn how to use it
[03:34] <hilx> u get used to it
[03:34] <luke_> yeah
[03:35] <luke_> i taught myself photoshop, so i should be able to teach myself gimp
[03:35] <bazhang> !info dansguardian
[03:35] <bazhang> also ff has some addons for web filtering iirc
[03:35] <hilx> i all goes wrong with gimp, u can install photoshop 7 in wine, works great
[03:36] <luke_> really?
[03:36] <luke_> photoshop 7 is old though isn't it?
[03:36] <Guest72505> bazhang: I'm trying to set up authentication with dans so that I can have two different filter groups
[03:36] <luke_> is that pre-CS?
[03:36] <luke_> as in creative suite, like the new version is CS4
[03:36] <hilx> not so much different to newer versions
[03:36] <bazhang> check the appdb
[03:36] <bazhang> !appdb
[03:37] <bazhang> Guest72505, not sure about that, they seem to have fairly decent documentation though
[03:37] <Guest72505> bazhang: yah, it seems..
[03:37] <Guest72505> not always the case though
[03:38] <hilx> CS Version _may_ work after a lot of fiddling.. but not stable
[03:39] <hilx> 1. choice. gimp
[03:39] <hilx> 2nd PS 7
[03:39] <hilx> forget the rest until wine supports it 100%
[03:43] <inanimate> So does KDE 4 seriously still use aRts as the sound server?
[03:48] <thepizzanator> help: how do i use a theme that i downloaded from kde-look.org?
[03:49] <cryptonic_sonic> Does anyone know a link to a good walkthru for configuring grub with multiple hard disks?
[03:49] <cryptonic_sonic> I have kubuntu and windows 7 on hd0.........vista and xp 64bit on hd1
[03:49] <cryptonic_sonic> I can boot everything fine but xp
[03:50] <cryptonic_sonic> I keep getting error 12
[03:50] <cryptonic_sonic> I've tried using map in menu.lst, but that didn't work
[03:55] <Beardbar> cant install any version of kubuntu on my partition, deleted it from vista it shows as unallocated space, but every install disk gives me i/o buffer errors when trying to load the install
[03:56] <hilx> cryptonic_sonic: http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/grub.html#mozTocId288068  this may help, samples config there, too
[03:57] <Beardbar> any suggested course of action?
[03:57] <cryptonic_sonic> kk...thanks hilx
[04:02] <josh-l> yup i'm now in love with kde 4... and i'm a heavy user of all other desktop environments except maybe e17
[04:02] <josh-l> and i mean osx, windows 7 included
[04:03] <hilx> josh-l: agree 100% ;)
[04:04] <josh-l> right! 4.2 is really great
[04:04] <josh-l> it works, quickly, looks nice... and has great features!
[04:04] <josh-l> there what else
[04:05] <josh-l> the one thing I can honestly say is very lacking, is konqueror, but supposedly theyre trying hard
[04:08] <hilx> as filemanager or browser? konqui is my best friend ;) ...cant say this bout Dolphin yet...
[04:08] <josh-l> sorry as a browser
[04:09] <thepizzanator> how do i apply a theme i'm downloading from kde-look.org? anyone?
[04:09] <thepizzanator> it's a window decoration.
[04:09] <thepizzanator> native kde 4
[04:10] <thepizzanator> i'm still here
[04:10] <thepizzanator> that wasn't me that left
[04:18] <hilx> u dont need to download first
[04:18] <thepizzanator> ok, what do i do then?
[04:18] <mefisto__> josh-l: what's lacking in konqueror?
[04:19] <hilx> right klick desktop -> settings appearance or so... (dont have english version)
[04:19] <hilx> there 'new theme .. or new design'
[04:19] <thepizzanator> i know how to do that, i want to install new window decorators
[04:19] <thepizzanator> oh
[04:19] <thepizzanator> i see
[04:19] <thepizzanator> thanks :D
[04:19] <thepizzanator> this is only plasma themes though
[04:20] <thepizzanator> you get what i mean by window decoration right?
[04:20] <thepizzanator> the border around the window
[04:20] <hilx>  oh ok
[04:20] <Slartibartfast> thepizzanator: System Settings > Appearance ....... for window decorations
[04:21] <thepizzanator> no offense but you people and all your canned responses agrevate the hell out of me
[04:21] <thepizzanator> i want to download new ones
[04:21] <thepizzanator> i mean i appericate your help and all but it's not helpful
[04:22] <Slartibartfast> thepizzanator: See if you can find some on http://www.kde-look.org
[04:22] <thepizzanator> ...
[04:22] <thepizzanator> i did
[04:22] <mefisto__> thepizzanator: it really depends on the window decoration you're interested in. it should have install instructions
[04:22] <thepizzanator> So how do i install them?
[04:22] <thepizzanator> oh
[04:22] <thepizzanator> what if it doesn't..?
[04:22] <bazhang> thepizzanator, which ones in particular
[04:22] <thepizzanator> hold on
[04:23] <thepizzanator> i had my eye on this
[04:23] <thepizzanator> http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Elegant+Bespin?content=99972
[04:23] <mefisto__> thepizzanator: then you would have to ask the developer on kde-look.org
[04:23] <bazhang> thepizzanator, btw, honey attracts more flies then vinegar
[04:23] <thepizzanator> i've been nice every other time i've been in here, so please don't lecture me
[04:23] <thepizzanator> sorry, i'm in a bad mood
[04:24] <thepizzanator> i thought this was supposed to have a fancy dangled auto installer
[04:24] <thepizzanator> like the plasma themes and all
[04:24] <thepizzanator> i
[04:25] <thepizzanator> i'm too tired for this
[04:25] <thepizzanator> i'll try again tomorrow
[04:25] <bazhang> then take a break
[04:25] <thepizzanator> thanks for the help everyone
[04:25] <bazhang> we'll see you tomorrow :)
[04:25] <thepizzanator> before i go, are there any nice looking ones that are noob friendly as far as installation goes? :/
[04:25] <bazhang> should be
[04:26] <thepizzanator> to use the beryl and emerald themes i have to install something extra, right?
[04:26] <thepizzanator> never mind
[04:26] <thepizzanator> later all
[04:26] <thepizzanator> time to go to sleep
[04:27] <bazhang> no more beryl
[04:27] <bazhang> oops
[04:28] <josh-l> mefisto__:  gmail and gmail apps mainly, but other firefox like addons too
[04:30] <mefisto__> josh-l: gmail works for me in konqueror
[04:30] <josh-l> mefisto__: not well
[04:32] <josh-l> can kde 4 panel icons be minimized?
[04:33] <mefisto__> not well? how do you mean?
[04:33] <thepizzanator> oops
[04:33] <josh-l> well scroll doesnt work, gmail chat doesnt work, i can check but i remember other things broken too
[04:33] <thepizzanator> hey, thanks to everyone that helped me out today, you guys have been very helpful :)
[04:33] <thepizzanator> later
[04:34] <mefisto__> josh-l: you might want to try arora browser. it's very simple and basic atm, but very light and fast, and works great with gmail
[04:34] <josh-l> mefisto__: yeah it does work nicely with gmail, but othewise a bit too basic
[04:34] <josh-l> i'm using opera these days for the time being, not exactly happily, but...
[04:34] <hilx> scroll works fine in gmail for me
[04:35] <sixofour> where is vlc player located?
[04:35] <sixofour> firefox needs to know so it can play videos
[04:35] <hilx>  /usr/bin/vlc
[04:36] <hilx> try: whereis vlc    ;)
[04:36] <sixofour> ty
[04:37] <Slartibartfast> sixofour: to show video's embedded in firefox you ned a plugin ... like mozilla-plugin-vlc
[04:39] <josh-l> hey how do i remoeve the kidney bean from the desktop?
[04:41] <hilx> u dont ;)
[04:41] <josh-l> its not always there though... it wasnt in intrepid, but it is jaunty
[04:41] <mefisto__> josh-l: I don't know if you can but you can move it to the bottom right corner so it's hidden behind the panel
[04:42] <josh-l> how
[04:42] <mefisto__> josh-l: just drag with the mouse
[04:42] <hilx> u can move it around
[04:42] <josh-l> oh ok thx
[04:44] <josh-l> i need to learn how to theme kde4
[04:45] <josh-l> so much can be done
[04:45] <josh-l> with so little
[04:45] <josh-l> tweaking
[04:55] <mefisto__> actually there is a plasmoid you can install that hides the plasma cashew (or kidney bean)
[05:01] <Slartibartfast> mefisto__: which plasmoid would that be?
[05:02] <mefisto__> Slartibartfast: it's called "I hate the cashew" and I got it from a ppa. just looking for the link
[05:03] <mefisto__> what's the main launchpad ppa page?
[05:03] <mefisto__> www.launchpad.net ? or something else?
[05:04] <Slartibartfast> ppa.launchpad.net
[05:04] <Beardbar> anyone know a link off hand for plasmoid development documents
[05:04] <Slartibartfast> plasmoid-cashew-off also ok ?
[05:05] <Slartibartfast> mefisto__: http://ppa.launchpad.net/samrog131/ubuntu/pool/main/p/plasmoid-cashew-off/ ?
[05:05] <mefisto__> the main page for that ppa is: https://launchpad.net/~samrog131/+archive/ppa
[05:06] <mefisto__> I found the intrepid ones don't work (at least for kde 4.2) but the jaunty ones do
[05:07] <Slartibartfast> well i have jaunty runnign here so that should be OK :-) ... thanks
[05:07] <mefisto__> Slartibartfast: that's the package name, but it appears in the widgets list as "I hate the cashew"
[05:08] <Slartibartfast> mefisto__: OK OK ... will try it out
[05:09] <Beardbar> Slartibartfast: how do you like jaunty so far?
[05:09] <Slartibartfast> Beardbar: very nice looking ... still has some small crashes but i can live with that
[05:12] <Slartibartfast> Hehehe ... and gone is the cashew :-) ... thanks mefisto__ !
[05:14] <sixofour> so a program broke my audio..is there any way to "restart" all my audio stuff..or do i need to reboot my pc?
[05:14] <mefisto__> Slartibartfast: one thing that bugs me about jaunty is I can't seem to get a panel to autohide. it works in intrepid kde4.2 but not jaunty for some reason
[05:15] <mefisto__> sixofour: you can try this: sudo /etc/init.d/alsautils restart
[05:15] <Slartibartfast> mefisto__: just trying and it is working here
[05:15] <hilx> autohide works here too
[05:16] <mefisto__> mine just hide and don't return
[05:16] <sixofour> sudo: /etc/init.d/alsautils: command not fo
[05:17] <Dr_willis> i though tht service name was 'alsa'
[05:17] <mefisto__> sixofour: sorry, that should be alsa-utils
[05:17] <Slartibartfast> mefisto__: ... mmm don't know why, but no problem on my installation
[05:17] <sixofour> th alsa and ajck are foobar
[05:19] <mefisto__> sixofour: sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart  you can do  sudo alsa force-reload (but that command will kill any apps that are using audio, eg kmix, maybe browsers, etc)
[05:19] <sixofour> how do i "start jack server"?
[05:20] <mefisto__> sixofour: it's kind of complicated, depending on how you want to set it up
[05:20] <sixofour> no "on" switch? lol
[05:21] <mefisto__> sixofour: if you have "jack control" installed that's a much easier way to start and control jack
[05:21] <mefisto__> sixofour: the package to install is qjackctl
[05:23] <Bsims{fs}> anyone have a clue on how to make the system bell actually work on kde 4
[05:24] <Dr_willis> most people want to dosable the system bell
[05:24] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:24] <Bsims{fs}> Dr_willis I am wierd I am trying to make konversation more like irssi
[05:24] <hilx> Oo
[05:25] <Bsims{fs}> hilx: I can never remember the commands for setting channel settings etc
[05:26] <hilx> rightklick chan window ;)
[05:26] <Bsims{fs}> hilx: in irssi under gnu screen, running in urxvt? can I have some of that fine weed you are smoking
[05:26]  * Bsims{fs} winks
[05:26] <hilx> ah that way hrhr
[05:27] <hilx> just think about when i last used such stuff...
[05:31] <hilx> ...besides my bitchx in my p990i smartphone putty ;)
[05:32] <ibuffy> can someone help me... quanta is opening all the links on irc
[05:33] <ibuffy> i looked at html file associations dialog but can't figure out what file it would be
[05:34] <ibuffy> html, htm are both set to firefox
[05:34] <sixofour> is there a way to stop a program from automaticly starting when i log in?
[05:34] <sixofour> lmms starts two instances every time i login, and further mroe, it breaks alsa and jack
[05:35] <ibuffy> sixofour: system settings > advanced > autostart
[05:35] <sixofour> lmms isn't in autostart
[05:35] <sixofour> but it sure enoughb oots up twice when i log in
[05:35] <sixofour> boots*
[05:36] <mefisto__> ibuffy: if you alt-F2 and put in http://www.google.com does it open in your default browser? or quanta?
[05:38] <sixofour> what was the command to force alsa to restart?
[05:39] <ibuffy> alsa --help
[05:39] <hilx> sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart
[05:39] <sixofour> no
[05:39] <mefisto__> sudo alsa force-reload
[05:39] <sixofour> the one that kills any process using it
[05:39] <ibuffy> yup
[05:39] <sixofour> that's it
[05:39] <ibuffy> it's in help :)
[05:40] <sixofour> now, about lmms starting when i log in despite that its not in auto run?
[05:41] <mefisto__> sixofour: is it running when you log off?
[05:41] <ibuffy> that could be the problem
[05:41] <sixofour> its not running
[05:41] <sixofour> atleast not anywhere i can see
[05:41] <sixofour> lol
[05:41] <ibuffy> ack, this quanta problem has got to go
[05:41] <sixofour> maby it died and became a process in the background somewhere?
[05:43] <mefisto__> ibuffy: are you using konversation?
[05:43] <ibuffy> mefisto__: yes
[05:43] <mefisto__> ibuffy: you can set the browser it uses somewhere
[05:43] <MacProKubuntu64> anyone around to lend a hand with my xorg.conf?
[05:44] <mefisto__> ibuffy: settings > configure > gehaviour > general. in miscellaneous section, "use custom web browser"
[05:45] <ibuffy> mefisto__: you're a life saver
[05:45] <ibuffy> thank you
[05:46] <XodaR> MacProKubuntu64:  sudo displayconfig-gtk
[05:47] <MacProKubuntu64> thanks ill try that gui
[05:48] <XodaR> np
[05:49] <MacProKubuntu64> where is i find displayconfig-gtk
[05:49] <mefisto__> !info displayconfig-gtk
[05:49] <mefisto__> !info displayconfig
[05:49] <MacProKubuntu64> this gnome only?
[05:49] <mefisto__> !info displayconfig-kde
[05:50] <mefisto__> looks like it's not part of intrepid
[05:50] <MacProKubuntu64> :(
[05:50] <MacProKubuntu64> I have been trying to piece xorg.conf i find together
[05:51] <mefisto__> MacProKubuntu64: what are you trying to do with xorg.conf?
[05:51] <MacProKubuntu64> my hardware is radeon hd 3870  and KDL-42v4100 display
[05:52] <MacProKubuntu64> The default xorg.conf only has flgrx
[05:53] <mefisto__> and what's the problem?
[05:54] <MacProKubuntu64> I have found these two sites to help but no luck yet http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=745647   http://www.tek-ops.com/archives/216
[05:56] <hilx> 64 bit?
[05:56] <MacProKubuntu64> I am not worried about dual display only a proper xorg.conf
[05:56] <MacProKubuntu64> Yes
[05:57] <mefisto__> MacProKubuntu64: but what's wrong?
[05:58] <MacProKubuntu64> I have no resolution change need to add them and modelines bugs are seen but prob due to propri ati drivers
[05:58] <mefisto__> !fixres | MacProKubuntu64
[05:59] <mefisto__> MacProKubuntu64: that link has an example xorg.conf at the bottom of the page
[05:59] <MacProKubuntu64> thanks ill try that
[05:59] <mefisto__> MacProKubuntu64: use gtf or cvt to generate modelines
[05:59] <hilx> For Ubuntu 8.10/Intrepid Ibex
[05:59] <hilx>  
[05:59] <hilx> Code:
[05:59] <hilx> sudo apt-get install fglrx-modaliases
[05:59] <hilx> Go to System -> Administration -> Software Sources and verify that the "restricted" repo is enabled.
[05:59] <hilx>  Go to System -> Administration -> Hardware Drivers and enable the restricted driver
[06:00] <hilx> Hardware acceleration for Radeon HD cards is currently only available with the proprietary AMD/ATI driver:
[06:00] <MacProKubuntu64> no open driver :(
[06:00] <mefisto__> MacProKubuntu64: with my ati card, I find I only need to put the largest resolution in xorg.conf and the lower ones are then available too
[06:00] <MacProKubuntu64> well at least none with 3d
[06:01] <MacProKubuntu64> Yeah , 1920x1080 is good if its the only one
[06:06] <markpwilms_> Hi, does anybody have problems with KNetwork Manager?
[06:07] <markpwilms_> I try to open it, and it won't open. I've tried to reinstall the app several times, but to no avail.
[06:17] <mefisto__> markpwilms: ctrl-esc and search for it in the list to see if it's running
[06:17] <MacProKubuntu64> mefisto__: here is my xorg.conf should I be fine with this or anything else is needed possibly? http://www.pastebin.ca/1360518
[06:18] <MacProKubuntu64> it now lets me choose all resolutions
[06:20] <mefisto__> MacProKubuntu64: that works now?
[06:20] <MacProKubuntu64> Yes, 200+ fps in tuxracer :P
[06:21] <mefisto__> MacProKubuntu64: you have 2 monitor sections, but your screen section is specifying the one without modelines. but if it's working, then leave it alone :)
[06:21] <MacProKubuntu64> Oh yes it seems to be working alright so far
[06:21] <mefisto__> MacProKubuntu64: oh you have 2 screen sections also
[06:22] <MacProKubuntu64> sometimes I see what appears to be rainbow stactic even at the end of the kubuntu load screen is this common with ati drivers perhaps
[06:24] <mefisto__> MacProKubuntu64: I have these options in the "Device" section http://paste.ubuntu.com/130909/ that got rid of ugly artifacts on mine
[06:25] <MacProKubuntu64> oh okay thanks! you had those problems also?
[06:25] <mefisto__> MacProKubuntu64: yes, and video playback was ugly too
[06:26] <MacProKubuntu64> same here
[06:26] <mefisto__> MacProKubuntu64: with compositing on, there is still some flickering on videos, but it's easy to disable (alt-shift-F11)
[06:27] <MacProKubuntu64> nice, i will give it a try
[06:29] <MacProKubuntu64> brb restartingX
[06:31] <MacProKubuntu64> seems to be running nicer now thanks for the help mefisto__
[06:31] <mefisto__> MacProKubuntu64: no prob
[06:48] <corigo1> I'm trying to partition my drive from the live CD install, but I don't see an option for the swap partition.... does it have different nomenclature?
[06:49] <husayn_> tell me an excellent P2P application on kubunntu like Emule
[06:51] <Slartibartfast> corigo1: make an extra partition but instead of format it as ext3 make it a swap
[06:52] <corigo1> thnx
[06:53] <Slartibartfast> husayn_:  i thought there was amule which connects to the emule network
[06:54] <Slartibartfast> husayn_: and there is http://www.frostwire.com/ ... for the limewire network
[06:58] <husayn_> THanks... i m getting amule using sudo apt-get install amule
[07:20] <RurouniJones> Anyone here using Konversation?
[07:21] <hilx> sure
[07:22] <RurouniJones> Cheers, just needed an example CTCP reply
[07:23] <hilx>  u r welcome ;)
[07:24] <hilx> [CTCP] CTCP-VERSION-Antwort von RurouniJones empfangen: Konversation 1.0.1 (C) 2002-2006 by the Konversation team.
[07:24] <hilx> yours, in german ;)
[07:24] <RurouniJones> It is now, I just modified the bouncer to reply using that
[07:44] <guillaum> so, the list of installed packages from aptitute is it in /etc?
[07:47] <hilx> dpkg --get-selections
[07:47] <guillaum> thanks
[07:53] <lemineur> lu all
[07:57] <gabriel_> it's nice waking up to my daily kubuntu total freeze of the computer... :/
[07:59] <hilx> give it a hug, it needs love
[07:59] <sGun23> #ubuntu-au-chat
[07:59] <gabriel_> hilx: hey, i'd have sex with it if it would help!
[08:00] <matsumoto> how can i connect in irc.explosionirc?
[08:00] <hilx> ;)
[08:03] <gabriel_> what is the best way to check what kde version im running?
[08:04] <hilx>  any help .. about KDE
[08:05] <gabriel_> ehm
[08:05] <carpii> most apps have an About App, and an About KDE in help menu
[08:05] <gabriel_> hilx: it says release 3.5.10... i was expecting 4.2 something
[08:06] <carpii> why were you expecting 4.x ?
[08:06] <Slartibartfast> gabriel_: depends on which program you use
[08:06] <gabriel_> carpii: because i have 4.2 something installed
[08:06] <Slartibartfast> gabriel_: if konversation then it is using 3.5.10 libs
[08:06] <hilx> use KDE4 app
[08:06] <gabriel_> Slartibartfast: aha i see
[08:06] <hilx> konversation not ported yet
[08:06] <carpii> ok maybe the app isnt the best way to see what version youre running
[08:07] <carpii> but 3.5 is quite different from 4.x, so its pretty easy to tell
[08:07] <hilx> Dolphin is a good choice ;)
[08:08] <gabriel_> and amarok is not ported as well?
[08:08] <hilx> x-act
[08:08] <gabriel_> i wonder if it's amarok that makes my computer crash on a daily basis
[08:09] <Slartibartfast> gabriel_: it also can be a buggy nvidia driver ...
[08:09] <gabriel_> Slartibartfast: yeah, actually it has freezed when i'm not playing music as well
[08:09] <hilx> actually in jaunty alpha amarok is...
[08:10] <gabriel_> however, this morning all i did was start amarok and start playback of music and then left the computer. some 10-15 minutes later it freezes, playing the audio in a loop
[08:10] <Slartibartfast> i had a lot of crashes in Jaunty with the 180.35 nvidia driver
[08:11] <gabriel_> Slartibartfast: i'm running 177 nvidia, and kde 4.2.0 as far as i can tell
[08:12] <gabriel_> kubuntu 8.10
[08:12] <mefisto__> kded4 --version    will tell you what version kde 4 you have
[08:12] <gabriel_> KDE: 4.2.00 (KDE 4.2.0)
[08:13] <gabriel_> sometimes i get rendering bugs also, when moving windows or someting
[08:13] <gabriel_> as it stands now, running windows vista is far more stable :(
[08:17] <gabriel_> hmm it says 4.2 are not supported by Canonical, and might not be stable? So.. can i switch back to kde4.0 somehow?
[08:21] <Dr_Willis> you could..
[08:21] <Dr_Willis> but you proberly will find it more stable then 4.0
[08:22] <Dr_Willis> if you really wanted stable..  I wouldent use kde4 at all :)
[08:22] <gabriel_> :*(
[08:23] <gabriel_> i want stable AND good looking, is that too much to ask??
[08:24] <maco> gabriel_: *cynic hat on* yes
[08:24] <gabriel_> %&%"8("#/&½!!!!
[08:27] <Dr_Willis> I find JWM+Rox Filer stable and good looking :)
[08:27] <gabriel_> haven't even heard of that?
[08:28] <gabriel_> what is it?
[08:29] <Dr_Willis> !info jwm
[08:30] <Dr_Willis> !info rox-filer
[08:32] <gabriel_> Dr_Willis the only screenshot i saw of that was... well, ugly :)
[08:33] <Dr_Willis> No..you are thinking lots of fluff is pretty...
[08:33] <Dr_Willis> i perfer nice simle layout and fonts..
[08:33] <gabriel_> whatever gets you laid ;)
[08:33] <Dr_Willis> I for one dont need icons in the 'menus'
[08:34] <gabriel_> i guess i will have to run gnome instead :/
[08:34] <Dr_Willis> this is linux.. use what you want.
[08:34] <Dr_Willis> 'Your OS , Your Way'
[08:35] <hilx> even fluxbox has icons in menus these days ;)
[08:40]  * gabriel_ is back after another crash.. this time probably caused by firefox/youtube
[08:50] <piolinjazz> como puedo proteger la red de mi laptop me refiero a k no entran a traves de la red a mis archivos
[08:52] <Dr_Willis> !ics
[08:55] <corigo1> how can I quickly and easily get network sharing access between 2 kubunut PCs on my LAN?
[08:55] <Dr_Willis> ive heard firesarter can do it in just a few clicks.. but not used it
[08:59] <Dr_Willis> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/firestarter-firewall-for-your-ubuntu-desktop.html
[09:00] <Dr_Willis> Oh wait.. you refering to shared Dirctories?
[09:00] <Dr_Willis> had another channel the guy wanted to share his Connection. :)
[09:04] <Hancok> hi, how can i access ext3 file system on windows xp?
[09:06] <corigo1> hancok: http://www.ext2fsd.com/projects/projects.htm#ext2fsr
[09:08] <Hancok> corigo1 thx
[09:08] <Dr_Willis> !ext2
[09:08] <Dr_Willis> !ext3
[09:08] <Hancok> how can i know on which port is my modem connected?
[09:08] <Dr_Willis> there ya go Hancok  - that driver works.. but i would disable it when not needed.
[09:09] <Hancok> Dr_Willis i have installed fs-driver on windows but i dont see the ext3 system. why?
[09:10] <Dr_Willis> Hancok,  you did read the docs and used the tool in the control-panel?
[09:10] <Hancok> Dr_Willis do i have to enable it? how to enable it?
[09:10] <Dr_Willis> read the docs.. it has a control panel applet
[09:10] <Hancok> i cant find any control panal;
[09:10] <Hancok> ok
[09:10] <Dr_Willis> in the windows control panel stuff.. thers a new icon
[09:10] <Hancok> where to see docs?
[09:10] <Hancok> oh ok
[09:11] <Dr_Willis> docs? I woudl guess at --> http://www.fs-driver.org :)
[09:12] <Hancok> i enalbled that in control pannel. but its not showing up
[09:13] <Dr_Willis> you use the pull down item and give it a letter.. then it should show up under the MyComputer stuff...
[09:13] <Dr_Willis> hit F5 perhaps to force a refresh
[09:13] <Hancok> nop. may be i have to restart
[09:13] <Hancok> right?
[09:14] <Dr_Willis> No idea
[09:14] <Dr_Willis> i dont recall needing to.
[09:14] <Hancok> ok.
[09:14] <Hancok> lastly. iam using kubuntu. how can i know on which port is my modem connected?
[09:14] <Dr_Willis> worked fine for me under vista..  dont recall trying it with XP.
[09:14] <Dr_Willis> dident work at all under windows7
[09:16] <Hancok> lastly. iam using kubuntu. how can i know on which port is my modem connected?
[09:16] <Dr_Willis> a dial up modem?
[09:16] <Hancok> no.
[09:16] <Hancok> ah. yes
[09:16] <Hancok> i mean . not a winmodem.
[09:17] <Hancok> its dialup
 a dial up modem? <-- like i asked. :) lol
[09:18] <Dr_Willis> !dialup
[09:18] <Hancok> iam just having trouble locating the real port . eg. tty0?
[09:19] <Dr_Willis> ttys0 perhaps? ive no idea.  try one and work your way up..
[09:19] <Dr_Willis> or check dmesg output for mention of it
[09:19] <Hancok> dmesg output? whats that
[09:19] <Hancok> ?
[09:20] <Dr_Willis> the command 'dmesg' and its output
[09:20] <Hancok> you mean i just write dmesg in terminal. and i out put i ll know the real port?
[09:21] <Dr_Willis> You could of tried it - in the time it tookl you to ask that. :)
[09:21] <hilx> could also appear as USB device, if it is one
[09:21] <Dr_Willis> dmesg prints out LOADS of informatiomn
[09:21] <Dr_Willis> you may have to 'filter' the info throguh grep to get  the info you need.
[09:22] <Hancok> hilx is not usb. its com1 in windows
[09:22] <Dr_Willis> ive not used a modem in years... so idont even kniow what they sjhow up as any more
[09:22] <Dr_Willis> ttyS0 or was it ttys0 or tts0
[09:22] <Dr_Willis> i forget. :)
[09:22] <Hancok> Dr_Willis command in ful\l?    dmesg grep | ?
[09:23] <Dr_Willis> dmesg | grep SOMEPATTERN
[09:24] <Hancok> Dr_Willis what should be the pattren in my case
[09:24] <Dr_Willis> ive havent the slightest idea
[09:24] <Dr_Willis> try 'tty' ?
[09:24] <Hancok> ok
[09:24] <Hancok> dmesg | grep tty ?
[09:24] <Dr_Willis> Try it and see.
[09:24] <Hancok> ok. thanks alot..
[09:24] <Hancok> :)
[09:24] <Hancok> see ya .
[09:29] <schummelpilz> hey, is someone eager to help a linux newbie with his thinkpad and tp-smapi and thinkpad-acpi?
[09:30] <xlnt01> any news on bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase-workspace/+bug/338205
[09:31] <xlnt01> Alpha6 can't load plasma, so no desktop...
[09:33] <Tm_T> !jaunty | xlnt01
[09:38] <tim> hey, is someone eager to help a linux newbie with his thinkpad and tp-smapi and thinkpad-acpi? I'm sry net connection crashed last time
[09:43] <eMaX> hi all
[09:43] <eMaX> anyone can confirm problems using kopete with msn? kopete 0.70.0 seems not to connect to msn
[09:45] <abdessamad> hi
[09:48] <[agatha]> morning :) i am having a little issue with my wireless.. it is not major stuff but i would like to fix it
[09:48] <[agatha]> when i boot the system, detects the wireless but i need to connect manually all the time
[09:48] <[agatha]> i was using hardy heron before, and after that debian lenny,and it always connected automatically
[09:49] <bazhang> did you associate the ap?
[09:49] <[agatha]> hmm i don't think so bazhang what you mean by that?
[09:49] <bazhang> let me get you a weblink [agatha]
[09:50] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=571188
[09:50] <[agatha]> thanks... the thing is that sometimes knetworkmanager does not start, and then i have to start it manually from the konsole... and there i see something like autoconnect <false> blabla so i guess it should be set to true... somehow
[09:50] <[agatha]> oki i'm gonna read
[09:56] <ubuntu_> allo?
[09:57] <[agatha]> hmm bazhang but that is for avoiding the use of network manager?
[09:58] <bazhang> [agatha], could be, especially if you want it to set on one particular ap
[09:59] <ubuntu_> silly question wht is error 2 while GRUB is loding and how can I fix it?
[09:59] <[agatha]> hmm but  my network manager is working fine (generally) unless it's unable to open network socket and then i need to run it manually... thing is that i cannot get it to autoconnect and it's weird for me since on lenny with kde4 i was not having any issue
[10:00] <[agatha]> just a second bazhang i will get the console output while running it manually
[10:00] <bazhang> ubuntu_, did you read the grub factoid?
[10:01] <ubuntu_> mmh not yet
[10:01] <ubuntu_> my konqueror is kinda slow!
[10:01] <ubuntu_> =(
[10:01] <bazhang> !grub
[10:02] <bazhang> second link unless you have windows installed
[10:02] <ubuntu_> I ws trying to test the kubuntu 8.10
[10:02] <hilx> ubuntu_: http://www.uruk.org/orig-grub/errors.html#stage1_5
[10:03] <[agatha]> http://pastebin.com/m2b432e35 the setting i am thinking about is in the line 13
[10:04] <[agatha]> if there is some way to set it from false to true and if that would help
[10:08] <hilx> maybe try in #kde
[10:09] <[agatha]> may be an option i will try ;) thanks
[10:12] <ubuntu_> okee got the info
[10:12] <hilx> ;)
[10:12] <ubuntu_> is ok if I try to restore the grub from the kubuntu 8.10 CD instead of the 8.04?
[10:13] <hilx> should work
[10:15] <ubuntu_> thnks !! is reboot time!!
[10:15] <hilx> good luck then
[10:16] <[agatha]> hmm now another question... i want to install gnome i am having some issues with skype and vlc on kde and i would like to use gnome as a backup... aptitude install ubuntu-desktop and that's all?
[10:17] <bazhang> with sudo but yes
[10:17] <[agatha]> thanks again bazhang
[10:17] <[agatha]> few days ago i tried from adept and ended up having to format
[10:17] <[agatha]> dunno why
[10:20] <senorpedro> hi folks
[10:21] <senorpedro> i installed the programm cryptkeeper, now every time i plug in a usb device nautilus opens up. how can i prevent nautilus from automatically open up?
[10:21] <dwarder> hi
[10:30] <yaa_> did anybody use netams?
[10:41] <noren> hi there
[10:41] <noren> from where can i download vmlinuz-2.6.28-9-generic for amd64 ( jaunty alpha 6)
[10:44] <noren> hi there
[10:44] <noren> from where can i download vmlinuz-2.6.28-9-generic for amd64 ( jaunty alpha 6)
[11:01] <klinac> W: GPG error: http://packages.medibuntu.org intrepid Release: Die folgenden Signaturen konnten nicht überprüft werden, weil ihr öffentlicher Schlüssel nicht verfügbar ist: NO_PUBKEY 2EBC26B60C5A2783?
[11:01] <klinac> german?
[11:01] <shmirgel> hi guys, I have a big problem
[11:01] <Bwian> Hi
[11:03] <shmirgel> I tried to restart kubuntu and it gave me a message "adapter1 disk information / no disk detected"
[11:03] <Bwian> When was the message displayed? During boot? Shutdown?
[11:03] <Bwian> What happens next?
[11:04] <shmirgel> during boot
[11:04] <noren> hey again
[11:06] <shmirgel> nothing happens next
[11:07] <Bwian> Which phase of the boot?
[11:07] <Bwian> Can you try booting from a LiveCD?
[11:07] <shmirgel> in the bios setup utility there are 6 SATA listed, the two hard drives I have, the cd-rom and 3 more that are marked as not detected
[11:09] <onlooker> How come every GTK2 game/app wants gnome files all of a sudden (Pioneers, Firefox...)?
[11:09] <shmirgel> I can try  booting from a LiveCD, my only worry is weather I'll keep my files
[11:21] <moder> ddd
[11:23] <noren> !jaunty
[11:34] <HackSam> hi there...i installed compiz in a Pendrive with a laptop with Nvidia...that works fine...the question now is, can I install ATI Drivers and just change Device in xorg whenever I switch between laptops having Nvidia or ATI?
[11:35] <HackSam> I run BT4 based on ubuntu
[11:35] <HackSam> !ati
[11:44] <Ydinlaskeuma> Applications->System->Hardware Drivers  says there are no restricted drivers installed, the two fields are empty and the only button available is "close". How do I use that to install ATI drivers?
[11:45] <Ydinlaskeuma> The actual problem is that I have wrong resolution, and I can't find how to set my monitor make and model
[11:49] <Ydinlaskeuma> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg only asks about keyboard, and xorg.conf mentions only "Default Screen" and "Configured Monitor"
[11:53] <tarfart> hi
[11:53] <tarfart> how do i enable transparent windows on intrepid?
[11:54] <tarfart> im new to kde 4, and didnt have to enable transparent windows on 3.5
[11:54] <JontheEchidna> tarfart: Go to System Settings -> Desktop module. There should be a desktop effects section inside
[11:56] <Ydinlaskeuma> desktop effects -> all effects -> translucency
[11:56] <tarfart> i get an error message saying it's failing.
[11:57] <tarfart> it says Check your X configuration. You may also consider changing advanced options, especially changing the compositing type.
[11:57] <tarfart> which is opengl
[11:58] <tarfart> fuck it.
[11:58] <bazhang> please watch the language
[11:58] <tarfart> dumb linux crap sucks.
[11:59] <Bwian> tarfart: Do you seriously expect people to help you with your problem if you are showing this attitude?
[12:00] <Ydinlaskeuma> try changing the compositing type as suggested
[12:02] <user1_> how do i play mp3 and have other codecs. whats the package name for kubuntu 6.10 ?
[12:02] <bazhang> user1_, that is eol; try upgrading to a newer version
[12:02] <bazhang> !edgy
[12:02] <user1_> bazhang:  eol?
[12:03] <bazhang> !eol
[12:03] <tarfart> xrender is the only other option
[12:03] <tarfart> oh well
[12:04] <tarfart> ok now it works
[12:04] <tarfart> i always thought opengl was better
[12:05] <Ydinlaskeuma> it might work with a different display driver
[12:05] <user1_> bazhang:  ya but the package for mp3 and encoders still exists........
[12:05] <bazhang> kubuntu-restricted-extras
[12:05] <bazhang> user1_, you are crossposting here and in #ubuntu ?
[12:06] <tarfart> ugh, but konsole's tranparent setting doesen't even work
[12:06] <tarfart> the other windows are transparent.
[12:06] <bazhang> tarfart, get yakuake
[12:06] <tarfart> no.
[12:06] <tarfart> i dont like that
[12:08] <tarfart> dumb linux crap still sucks.
[12:08] <bazhang> tarfart, its not for everyone.
[12:08] <bazhang> tarfart, but complaining wont fix things
[12:09] <tarfart> kde 3.5 actually worked.
[12:24] <tarfart> e430761c3a995b49e1b14d47c9dfe78e319c0453
[12:24] <tarfart> http://friendfeed.s3.amazonaws.com/e430761c3a995b49e1b14d47c9dfe78e319c0453
[12:35] <bazhang> tarfart, dont paste that in here
[12:37] <noren> any one having amd64 setup here
[12:38] <noren> i wanted help with the menu list entry
[12:43] <powerhouse_b> hello
[12:46] <tarfart> bazhang: :)
[12:59] <jehrymine> hello
[13:19] <tarfart> how do you drag an icon on the desktop from the kmenu and have still remain in kmenu ?
[13:20] <sdf2> kde or gnome? :D
[13:20] <tarfart> i deleted some icons, and now they're not to under kmenu.
[13:20] <tarfart> kde
[13:21] <tarfart> apt-get remove; apt-get install doesent even bring em back.
[13:22] <tarfart> is this one of those things that you Cant do linux?
[13:22] <tarfart> i dont see why kde cant just let you have an icon in both kmenu and the desktop
[13:23] <tarfart> and i find the fact that invoking a program right clicking the icon under kmenu is poor design.
[13:23] <tarfart> why does linux have to be so annoying?
[13:24] <sdf2> linux isn't annoying
[13:24] <tarfart> um... yes. it makes everything harder.
[13:24] <RurouniJones> Er, yo click, drag and then in the little menu that comes up you click "Copy here"
[13:24] <RurouniJones> I fail to see the barrrier
[13:24] <tarfart> there is no menu
[13:24] <RurouniJones> which version of KDE
[13:25] <tarfart> 4.2
[13:25] <RurouniJones> Ah, can't help you then
[13:25] <tarfart> so how do i get Wireshark (as root)  icon back?
[13:25] <bazhang> tarfart, as root?
[13:25] <tarfart> apt-get remove wireshark; apt-get install wireshark;  doesent
[13:25] <tarfart> no.
[13:26] <tarfart> there was an icon, ---->  "Wireshark (as root)"
 so how do i get Wireshark (as root)  icon back?  as root?
[13:26] <tarfart> and ---> Wireshark
[13:26] <tarfart> ok... howabout this.
[13:26] <tarfart> how do i un install wireshark
[13:26] <tarfart> apt-get remove didn't do it's job
[13:27] <bazhang> how was it installed
[13:27] <tarfart> apt-get install ??
[13:27] <bazhang> paste.ubuntu.com with output of sudo apt-get update
[13:28] <bazhang> also paste.ubuntu.com with sources.list
[13:28] <BadEagle> <-- noob... KDE vs Gnome?
[13:28] <Tm_T> !best | BadEagle
[13:28] <tarfart> this linux crap sucks.  the first time i installed wire shark, it provided 2 icons under kmenu "Wireshark" and "Wireshark as root"
[13:29] <bazhang> BadEagle, offtopic chat in #kubuntu-offtopic please
[13:29] <tarfart> now when i run, apt-get remove wireshark; apt-get install wireshark, all thats there is "Wire shark"
[13:29] <tarfart> where is "Wireshark as root"
[13:29] <bazhang> tarfart, please pastebin what I have asked
[13:30] <Evelynn> Anyone knows witch package provides Font and Style tabs in KDE's System-Settings ?
[13:30] <informatica> hola
[13:30] <bazhang> !es
[13:31] <tarfart> http://rafb.net/p/W4Pyl928.html
[13:35] <BadEagle> bestbot is my friend now.
[13:45] <tarfart> bazhang: http://rafb.net/p/W4Pyl928.html
[13:48] <tarfart> im going to bed.
[13:48] <tarfart> this linux garbage is giving me a head ache
[13:50] <BadEagle> i just passed emo. can you smell it?
[13:51] <ubuntu_> hi need some helpwith chroot
[13:52] <BadEagle> hi, ubuntu_, is chroot the thing that sets permissions?
[13:52] <ubuntu_> am running a live cd and trying to install linux image generic in /media/disk ... how to give the write accccess
[13:53] <gohmifune> BadEagle: I think that's chmod
[13:53] <BadEagle> is it possible it's not a permission problem and is instead a disk format problem?
[13:53] <gohmifune> what's the problem?
[13:54] <BadEagle> he's running ubuntu live cd and can't isntall linux image generic in /media/disk
[13:54] <BadEagle> that's what he says anyway, i have no idea what it means
[13:55] <ubuntu_> i am trying to fix my jaunty install by running a live cd
[13:55] <gohmifune> how's it broken?
[13:56] <ubuntu_> gohmifune: after i installed my jaunty the boot grub menu list does not have any entry for me to boot into the system
[13:56] <ubuntu_> so some one said i sud get linux image generic
[13:57] <gohmifune> I don't know what that would do personally, other than giving you a fresh install maybe.
[13:57] <gohmifune> are you multi-booting?
[13:57] <gohmifune> with windows maybe?
[13:58] <drostie> When you say "does not have any entry for me to boot into the system," do you mean that it has entries that don't work?
[13:58] <ubuntu_> yees i do have windows also installed
[13:59] <ubuntu_> hi drostie
[13:59] <bazhang> ubuntu_, #ubuntu+1 for that
[13:59] <drostie> Or does it just have no entries other than the option to boot into Windows?
[13:59] <ubuntu_> bazhang> i am comming frm there only
[13:59] <BadEagle> bazhang is a router ;)
[13:59] <ubuntu_> drostie: it has no entries
[13:59] <bazhang> ubuntu_, that is the channel to discuss in thanks (ie not here)
[14:00] <ubuntu_> other than memtest
[14:00] <drostie> bazhang: As far as I can tell, the problem isn't jaunty-specific, so it's fine that ubuntu_ discusses it here.
[14:00] <ubuntu_> bazhang: well as u say
[14:01] <bazhang> !jaunty
[14:01] <bazhang> drostie, ^^
[14:01] <BadEagle> lawl
[14:01] <BadEagle> yeah software breaks if you don't change the oil regularly
[14:02] <drostie> bazhang: please reread what I said and then tell me how the hell that's relevant.
[14:02] <drostie> If the problem isn't Jaunty-specific, then it's fine to talk here about it.
[14:02] <bazhang> he is using jaunty. he wants a fix.
[14:03] <tashana> HELO
[14:03] <BadEagle> BOOMER
[14:03] <ubuntu_> dont fight i will leave now... PEACCE
[14:03] <tashana> I NED HELP
[14:03] <bazhang> he is crossposting there and here.
[14:03] <drostie> bazhang: and? I'm also using jaunty. OMG I CAN'T TALK ABOUT KUBUNTU ANYMORE OH NOEZ.
[14:04] <drostie> gimme a break.
[14:04]  * BadEagle sniffs, makes a face like he smells something.
[14:04] <drostie> crossposting isn't against the rules either, afaik.
[14:04] <BadEagle> with what, tashana?
[14:04] <bazhang> !crosspost
[14:05] <tashana> тут есть говорящие по русски?
[14:05] <bazhang> tashana, #ubuntu-ru
[14:05] <BadEagle> <3 bazhang the router
[14:06] <drostie> Well, let me be more specific: He said he had posted in #ubuntu+1 and received no attention. And a quick /join to #ubuntu+1 shows that it's apparently quiet right now.
[14:06] <tashana> tnx)
[14:06] <bazhang> and that is the channel to discuss it in.
[14:07] <drostie> bottom line, you're trying to stop people from getting meaningful help for no good reason. Why?
[14:07] <BadEagle> it's his job
[14:08] <drostie> No, #ubuntu+1 is for jaunty-specific issues. If you like we can send him over to #grub. But the issue isn't jaunty-specific.
[14:08] <drostie> Or at least, we don't know if it is or not yet. :\
[14:08] <BadEagle> well if you got 50 folders
[14:08] <BadEagle> and 150 files
[14:09] <BadEagle> you have to come up with a way to put 3 files in each folder :P
[14:09] <BadEagle> that way each folder can comfortably hold the number of files in it
[14:10] <bazhang> meaningful help? why not join him there then? the channel policies are such that unreleased versions are discussed in the +1 channel.
[14:10] <bazhang> dont know why that is so hard to fathom really.
[14:10] <soulasassin> anbody good with installation issues?
[14:11] <BadEagle> packages or the os?
[14:11] <drostie> bazhang: he's not discussing unreleased versions.
[14:11] <drostie> Anyway, you're a hypocrite. You should have told yourself to bring this to #kubuntu-offtopic by now :-P
[14:11] <soulasassin> the os itself. is there any reason you can think of why a certain version of kubuntu wont install on a certain hard drive, but another version will
[14:12] <BadEagle> size?
 i am trying to fix my jaunty install by running a live cd drostie ??
[14:12] <soulasassin> the drive is a 160gb maxtor drive
[14:12] <drostie> bazhang: and? That's not saying "OH WOW JAUNTY IS SO COOL".
[14:13] <soulasassin> 8.10 wont install at all, but the alpha 6 build of jaunty does
[14:13] <BadEagle> ahh, i sure feel like a noncompoop when it comes to hardware and drivers these days
[14:13] <BadEagle> *nincompoop
[14:13] <drostie> or "hey is knetworkmanager broken for anyone else under jaunty?"
[14:14] <BadEagle> where does it quit/die/freeze/error out, soulasassin?
[14:14] <drostie> soulasassin: what happens when you open the drive with Ubiquity? It just doesn't appear?
[14:14] <drostie> [Ubiquity = the LiveCD installer.\
[14:14] <BadEagle> #kubuntu-offtopic
[14:14] <BadEagle> oops, missed the /join
[14:15] <soulasassin> gets about 60% of the way through copying th files to the drive, and then gives me a read/write error. ive already tried redownloading the image and reburning and even replaced the cd drive
[14:15] <soulasassin> same thing happens
[14:15] <soulasassin> yet jaunty installs fine on the same drive
[14:16] <drostie> soulasassin: weird. think fsck-ing the drive might show something useful?
[14:16] <bazhang> soulasassin, and you md5'd the iso?
[14:16] <soulasassin> certainly did
[14:17] <BadEagle> you might try installing hardy heron and upgrading to 8.10, but that just avoids the problem
[14:17] <bazhang> soulasassin, what about cd integrity check after burning at low speed?
[14:17] <bazhang> soulasassin, and what kernel boot options did you try and apply?
[14:17] <soulasassin> i tried verifying the burn afterwards and it all came back fine
[14:18] <soulasassin> kernel boot options? im totally new to linux lol. id consider myself a power user on windows but linux is all new to me
[14:19] <soulasassin> if you mean what options i selected for the install
[14:19] <bazhang> soulasassin, try and remove quiet and splash from the kernel you are booting so you can see the exact error messages
[14:19] <BadEagle> -withbutter OR -nobutter
[14:20] <soulasassin> ill give it a go later on. the drive i was having issues with is in the machine im on now, running jaunty
[14:21] <bazhang> soulasassin, #ubuntu+1 for jaunty discussion thanks
[14:25] <drostie> bazhang: ... he was having trouble installing Intrepid, so he successfully installed Jaunty. He wanted to know why Intrepid was bad, so you forwarded him to #ubuntu+1.
[14:25] <drostie> Could you stop being a robot? It's worthless.
[14:25] <bazhang> drostie, please stop
[14:25] <lovre> offtopic, sorry, does anyone know what this stands for: ||x||
[14:26] <drostie> lovre: generally, the norm or length of a vector.
[14:26] <drostie> bazhang: please stop criticizing you for reacting naively to the keyword "jaunty"?
[14:26] <davo_> hello
[14:27] <lovre> drostie: isnt absolute |x| enough?
[14:27] <bazhang> drostie, stop with the attitude.
[14:27] <drostie> Or for the fact that you're trying to stop people from getting help?
[14:27] <davo_> how to make kde looks beautiful
[14:27] <BadEagle> like, themes?
[14:28] <davo_> regarding with start pane
[14:28] <drostie> lovre: one usually uses |x| to denote an absolute value. But it depends on personal preference.
[14:28] <lovre> drostie: well, i have allways used |x| on vectors to get length. Now im a bit confused with this notation........
[14:28] <Ydinlaskeuma2> I still have wrong resolution, how do I set monitor make and model in Kubuntu? Already tried "dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg" and editing xorg.conf as instructed in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver#Configuring%20X.org, which broke X unbootable. After "Xorg -configure" I'm back where I started.
[14:29] <koiann> ae
[14:29] <koiann> o/
[14:29] <drostie> bazhang: would you at least acknowledge that you were wrong in this particular case?
[14:30] <bazhang> Ydinlaskeuma2, what about system settings display? do hardware drivers show the restricted driver in use
[14:31] <Ydinlaskeuma2> No restricted, and in "Hardware drivers" the only available button is "close"
[14:32] <Ydinlaskeuma2> System settings -> display is pointless, lets me only choose from a couple small resolutions. No monitor selection there
[14:33] <koiann> someone from manaus?
[14:33] <bazhang> Ydinlaskeuma2, you installed the correct driver? for which card?
[14:34]  * BadEagle sneezes.
[14:34] <drostie> What resolution are you trying to run, exactly?
[14:35] <Ydinlaskeuma2> 1600x1200, or anything that makes headache go away (crt)
[14:36] <killermach> I have a config file (text) which I am editing. I want to use diff and patch , does anyone know a good tutorial?
[14:37] <Ydinlaskeuma2> Up there I said I tried to install correct open driver via editing xorg.conf, but it broke X
[14:39] <drostie> So you have the wrong driver now, or what?
[14:39] <Ydinlaskeuma2> no driver yet
[14:39] <BluesKaj> "morning
[14:39] <bazhang> hi
[14:40] <drostie> killermach: type [man diff] into a terminal to read the manpage.
[14:40] <drostie> Ydinlaskeuma2: and what's your video card?
[14:40] <Ydinlaskeuma2> Oh, actually xorg.conf Section Device / Drives says "radeon" now
[14:41] <Ydinlaskeuma2> It's ATI radeon fsc, which is a 7000 according to...
[14:41] <drostie> ok. Does K > System Settings > Display now have useful resolutions in it?
[14:41] <drostie> or still not?
[14:41] <Ydinlaskeuma2> No useful ones, I suspect undetected monitor
[14:42] <Tm_T> Ydinlaskeuma2: can you pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log please
[14:42] <Tm_T> Ydinlaskeuma2: also there's #kubuntu-fi channel if you prefer finnish
[14:43] <Ydinlaskeuma2> ...adapter type according to lspci | grep -i vga
[14:44] <drostie> Ydinlaskeuma2: I dunno. It seems like today, all monitors tend to work with sane default settings. But I don't know the specifics about your monitor.
[14:44] <drostie> Did the livecd detect your resolution just fine, or also not?
[14:48] <Ydinlaskeuma2> http://pastebin.com/m63b2c31    I suspect low population on any Finnish language anything.
[14:48] <stronda> quem eh brasileiro ai?
[14:49] <Ydinlaskeuma2> I didn't try live before installing.
[14:49] <Ydinlaskeuma2> Could try now if useful?
[14:50] <BadEagle> !lng
[14:50] <BadEagle> !lang
[14:50] <bazhang> stronda, #ubuntu-br
[14:51] <lovre>  i have a question about wine. Does it support DirectX or some other hardware acceleration?
[14:56] <BadEagle> yes, directx
[14:56] <jonatas> pessoal to com um problema sera q alguem pode me ajudar??
[14:56] <BadEagle> i heard it converts directx to opengl calls on the fly
[14:56] <killermach> drostie: been doing that.. and now I can create and apply a patch
[14:57] <killermach> drostie: here is the delima.. I need to patch several files with the same patch, but each file will have a different filename
[14:58] <drostie> shell script?
[14:59] <drostie> Or maybe you can somehow organize them all in one directory and let bash use a * wildcard? (Might not work, depending on the exact geometry of these files.)
[15:00] <killermach> drostie: yeah .. but I want to make sure that patch doesn't already have this feature.. so I prevent 're-invent of the wheel'
[15:00] <drostie> !br | jonatas
[15:01] <Ydinlaskeuma2> Does that pastebinful suggest that this undetectedness is the monitor's fault? Because this monitor is Nokia 445M, but I could try a slightly newer 445Xi too
[15:01] <drostie> killermach: well, then you'll have to figure out which one has the feature and which does not.
[15:03] <Tm_T> Ydinlaskeuma2: your suspection about finnish channel is unfounded, but anyway, will look at your paste now
[15:05] <Tm_T> Ydinlaskeuma2: your monitor is in disconnect/connect loop, that's humorous, broken cables?
[15:09] <Ydinlaskeuma2> Oh. I will connect the other monitor and retry "Xorg -configure". Thanks.
[15:09] <killermach> drostie: yep.. so I'm searching for tutorials on crafty ways to use the diff and patch tools
[15:09] <Tm_T> Ydinlaskeuma2: ole hyvä, poikaseni
[15:11] <gogita> Hallo all
[15:12] <BadEagle> hey
[15:16] <lovre> can i install SUSE software on Kubuntu?
[15:17] <lovre> I want to install Xilinx ISE/Webpack, but it is only available for Redhat and SUSE. What do i do?
[15:17] <bazhang> lovre, no
[15:19] <lovre> you can run windows applications on linux, but you cant run linux application on linux. Hmm
[15:22] <bazhang> lovre, is rpm
[15:24] <lovre> ?
[15:24] <Slartibartfast> lovre: you can convert the RPM to a DEB file ... with alien
[15:24] <lovre> alien as in little green?
[15:25] <Slartibartfast> !alien
[15:25] <Slartibartfast> sudo apt-get install alien
[15:25] <lovre> but it's quite dangerous and unsupported
[15:25] <lovre> what can happen?
[15:25] <Slartibartfast> that is not working as expected
[15:26] <lovre> ok
[15:26] <lovre> ill try it. Thanx
[15:26] <Slartibartfast> it is not supported by Ubuntu .. because you will install something what is not made by them
[15:26] <lovre> thats seems reasonable.
[15:26] <lovre> not.
[15:27] <Slartibartfast> after install alien ... do ... sudo dpkg -i with-alien-converted-package.deb
[15:27] <BadEagle> .deb goes ok usually
[15:27] <lovre> ok
[15:28] <Slartibartfast> can try ...
[15:28] <lovre> yes
[15:28] <lovre> anyway, do you people use antivirus softwarE?
[15:28] <lovre> i dont but wonder is there a need?
[15:29] <BadEagle> lol
[15:29] <Slartibartfast> no need :-) .. virusses is more of that other OS
[15:29] <BadEagle> i've never used anything on ubuntu
[15:30] <lovre> i guessed so. But i see on forums people are installing stuff, so i go wtf?
[15:31] <Ariadnax> hello
[15:32] <Ariadnax> i am having trouble with kontact
[15:32] <Slartibartfast> lovre: it's all about the philosophy. This is much different as in the world of that other OS ... Everything is opensource, can't hide your nasty backdoors
[15:32] <lovre> i see
[15:33] <lovre> other os meaning wingows :D
[15:33] <Slartibartfast> :-) right
[15:33] <opop> hey, is there a means to have a double-wide background span two displays in plasma in kde 4.2?
[15:33] <opop> hai, btw
[15:33] <lovre> why doesnt windows follow some of the ideas from linux, or are they so messed up in spaggheti they cant really do anything about it? but that is another offtopic
[15:34] <Slartibartfast> There people like to use warez ... which many times have the additional fun :-)
[15:35] <Slartibartfast> in Linux no need to use "warez"
[15:35] <opop> in windows no need to use warez.  may as well open your wrists
[15:36] <lovre> windows sux, but they still got monopoly on some important stuff.
[15:37] <lovre> like FPGA design tools (xilinx), or VisualDSP++, bunch electronics stuff
[15:37] <ubuntu_> my live cd doesnot go furter from 'searching repositories. security updats' while i am installing kubuntu 7.10. when i restart  without live cd. it says. grub error 15. how can i resolve grub error?
[15:38] <Slartibartfast> Why Microsoft makes windows like it is? ... Because it is all about control and power ... They bought the OEM support, they got their monopoly and build their incompatibility, which now is their power of control
[15:39] <Slartibartfast> and it makes them a lot of money
[15:39]  * opop yawns
[15:40] <lovre> Slartibartfast: it will be the end of them. Even now, many people abandon windows, because of virus problems. They cant get rid of that.
[15:41] <bobbob1016> For some reason, kde4.2 isn't playing nice with compiz.  When I have a fullscreen window, the contents go white, then the whole screen, any ideas?
[15:41] <Jahman> hi
[15:43] <Slartibartfast> lovre: anyway ... not my problem :-) ...
[15:43] <shadeslayer> a tiny question if i may
[15:43] <lovre> ye: D
[15:43] <shadeslayer> has 4.2 been moved to intrepid repos??
[15:43] <ubuntu_> my live cd doesnot go furter from 'searching repositories. security updats' while i am installing kubuntu 7.10. when i restart  without live cd. it says. grub error 15. how can i resolve grub error?
[15:44] <noren> hi there
[15:46] <noren> hi there i got this fresh install of jaunty but the plasma not working
[15:46] <shadeslayer> #ubuntu+1
[15:47] <hardaysknight> can anyone tell me how to install window decorations in kde 4.2?
[15:51] <Marcix> hi everybody
[15:52] <Marcix> i have kubuntu 8.10 on x64 , and a tew-644 not working with ndiswrapper
[15:54] <Marcix> it installs it correctly , it can also snif wifi connections but can't gain the connection with both wep and wpa2 protection
[15:54] <Marcix> using knetowrk-manager
[15:54] <Marcix> what can i do?
[15:55] <shadeslayer> looks like 4.2 has been moved to intrepid repos as the guide does not mention adding a repo
[15:55] <shadeslayer> ok thanks
[15:55] <Tm_T> shadeslayer: it's in backports
[15:56] <shadeslayer> backports??
[15:56] <Tm_T> !backports
[15:57] <shadeslayer> oh o i get it.so i just enable the recommended updates in the updates tab right??
[15:57] <shadeslayer> and ill have 4.2
[15:58] <Tm_T> shadeslayer: I think it's called "unsupported updates" or something, look the website ubottu mentioned
[15:58] <hardaysknight> can anyone tell me how to install window decorations in kde 4.2?
[15:58] <shadeslayer> ill have a look,Thanks
[15:59] <onlooker> How do I make Konversation open irc:// links from my browser (which is Konqueror)?
[15:59] <hardaysknight> i cant figure out how to install dekorator
[16:07] <Marcix> i have kubuntu 8.10 on x64 , and a tew-644 not working with ndiswrapper
[16:07] <Marcix> it installs it correctly , it can also snif wifi connections but can't gain the connection with both wep and wpa2 protection
[16:07] <Marcix> what can i do?
[16:12] <Jampiter> Hi
[16:12] <Jampiter> Can someone advise me on the best video editing software for Ubuntu and Kubuntu?
[16:19] <draik_> Jampiter: I've only used it once a while back and it did what I needed; Qdvdauthor
[16:19] <draik_> !qdvdauthor
[16:20] <bazhang> !info qdvdauthor
[16:20] <draik_> IIRC, k9copy will use that app if you want to edit an existing DVD.
[16:20] <draik_> Thanks bazhang
[16:20] <bazhang> for ripping get the ppa of handbrake
[16:22] <lean2501> hi! i installed latest kubuntu in my msi wind, along with xp, the thing is that in kubuntu i have no internet connection, any clue? i configurated both the same
[16:28] <Jayrock> If I want to open a tarball in a different directory, how do I do that?
[16:29] <BluesKaj> lean2501 , laptop or desktop , and which ethernet card ?
[16:29] <Jayrock> So I have a tarball on a remote server, and I want to save all of the separate files somewhere else (like my hard drive) - how do I do that?  I'm a n00b, obviously.
[16:30] <ActionParsnip1> Jayrock: download the tar then run  tar zxvf <file> and it will extract
[16:31] <Jayrock> Yah that extracts it - but to where?
[16:31] <ActionParsnip1> then rm the tarball
[16:31] <ActionParsnip1> Jayrock: it will create a folder with the same name as the tarball in the same folder
[16:31] <Jayrock> Oh...well then fantastic.  I thought it just created all the files in that location.  Thank you!
[16:32] <lean2501> BluesKaj, msi wind
[16:32] <lean2501> the driver i need i think its r8180
[16:32] <lean2501> yes that it is
[16:32] <Jayrock> Also I thought it was xvfz, it's zxvf?
[16:32] <ActionParsnip1> Jayrock: wherever the tar is, if you run that command it will be iin the pwd
[16:32] <BluesKaj> yes lean2501, msi wind makes a desktop as well as laptops, so which is it ?
[16:32] <user1>  i just installed kubuntu 7.10 .every thing on internet is working. dowlloads and chat. but i cannot browse anything by konqueror. why. how to resolve?
[16:33] <ActionParsnip1> Jayrock: doesnt matter, you can mix it up as you wish
[16:33] <ActionParsnip1> Jayrock: you could use vxfz if it floats your boat
[16:33] <lean2501> BluesKaj, ha sorry, a laptop
[16:33] <ActionParsnip1> Jayrock: same thing exactly
[16:34] <Jayrock> Thanks again
[16:34] <BluesKaj> Jayrock , for tar,bz2 use tar -jxvf, for gz use tar -xzvf
[16:37]  * ActionParsnip1 has scripts to extract both
[16:37] <Jayrock> xzvf for .tgz too?
[16:37] <user1>  i just installed kubuntu 7.10 .every thing on internet is working. dowlloads and chat. but i cannot browse anything by konqueror. why. how to resolve?
[16:37] <BluesKaj> Jayrock , yes
[16:37] <ActionParsnip1> Jayrock: yes i believe so
[16:37] <Jayrock> It says the directories within the tar file don't exist...which is frustrating (the whole problem is I don't have code for make something work and it was *supposedly* uploaded into this tarball)
[16:37] <ActionParsnip1> user1: can you ping names of websites?
[16:38] <ActionParsnip1> Jayrock: what is the tarball of exactly?
[16:38] <Jayrock> A loooooong list of programming files - mostly matlab but some perl and mathematica too
[16:38] <BluesKaj> lean2501 , to find your network card, lspci | grep Ethernet , in the terminal
[16:38] <user1> ActionParsnip how can i ping>
[16:38] <user1> ?
[16:39] <ActionParsnip1> user1: ping www.rathergood.com
[16:39] <user1> ActionParsnip
[16:39] <user1> PING yahoo.com (206.190.60.37) 56(84) bytes of data.
[16:39] <user1> 64 bytes from w2.rc.vip.re4.yahoo.com (206.190.60.37): icmp_seq=1 ttl=54 time=623 ms
[16:39] <ActionParsnip1> user1: ok so dns is working
[16:41] <lean2501> lol i remember now
[16:41] <user1> !mp3
[16:41] <ActionParsnip1> user1: try: sudo apt-get --reinstall install konqueror*
[16:41] <lean2501> BluesKaj, i used to have internet when i installed the first time, but the other day i made a update
[16:41] <lean2501> i think it updated the kernel
[16:41] <lean2501> so i think because of that i have no internet connection now
[16:42] <ActionParsnip1> lean2501: if you compiled your network drivers, you will need to recompile or the new kernel
[16:42] <user1> ActionParsnip what is the package name for restricted codecs. mp3 etc. i think its kubuntu restricted extras. need the exact name and repo containing it. 2. i think there is a problem in konqueror offline and online mode. you know hoe to get there ?
[16:42] <ActionParsnip1> lean2501: if the old kerenl works for you there is no reason to upgrade to the newerr version
[16:42] <lean2501> no i dont compiled them
[16:42] <BluesKaj> lean2501, i think you just need to make a new connection in knetwork manager , eth0
[16:43] <lean2501> BluesKaj, i did it, doesnt work
[16:43] <ActionParsnip1> user1: maybe its in file -> offline mode
[16:43] <ActionParsnip1> user1: i dont use konqueror but i can make educated guesses
[16:43] <lean2501> ActionParsnip1, how can i recompile the driver now?
[16:43] <user1> ActionParsnip not file menu
[16:44] <ActionParsnip1> lean2501: you could reboot to the old kernel, get the driver, boot to the new kernel, then recompile
[16:45] <ActionParsnip1> user1: http://fixunix.com/suse/260500-konqueror-offline-mode.html
[16:45] <BluesKaj> lean2501, did you give the connection a name like 'eth0 '
[16:45] <Jayrock> So if I try the tar command and I get some riduculously long list of errors like "tar: dir/file: Cannot open: No such file or directory" that means there's nothing in the tarball, right?  Or could I have done something wrong somehow?
[16:45] <ActionParsnip1> Jayrock: maybe the tar is corrupt
[16:46] <lean2501> BluesKaj, yes
[16:46] <lean2501> ActionParsnip1, but how i recompile? the first time i dont compile it
[16:47] <ActionParsnip1> lean2501: then you dont have to compile it if you didnt with the old kernel
[16:47] <ActionParsnip1> lean2501: if you boot to the old kernel and run:   lsmod > ~/old.txt
[16:48] <ActionParsnip1> lean2501: and boot to the new kerenl and run: lsmod > ~/new.txt
[16:48] <lean2501> ActionParsnip1, haa let see
[16:48] <ActionParsnip1> lean2501: you can compare the probes modules to see what is different
[16:48] <user1> ActionParsnip i cant open the web
[16:48] <user1> rembember
[16:49] <ActionParsnip1> user1: d'oh
[16:49] <ActionParsnip1> user1: -> Settings -> Configure Konqueror -> Cache -> Offline browsing mode
[16:52] <ActionParsnip1> user1: better?
[16:52] <ActionParsnip1> user1: ive seen folks ask this loads
[16:53] <user1> !kubuntu-restricted-extras
[16:53] <ActionParsnip1> !restricted
[16:54] <decembre> hello
[16:54] <victim> hi
[16:54] <Beardbar> im running jaunty, did adept package manager go away now in kde 4.2? what is it now?
[16:54] <decembre> I have a problem wit my xorg
[16:54] <ActionParsnip1> !info ubuntu-restricted-extras
[16:55] <decembre> it eats a lot of my cpu power
[16:55] <decembre> I am allways at 100 %
[16:55] <decembre> I don't know where ùis the bug !
[16:55] <lean2501> ActionParsnip1, thanks
[16:56] <user1> ActionParsnip seems its already 'keep cache in sync mode'
[16:56] <user1> !info kubuntu-restricted-extras
[16:56] <decembre> It doesn't come from nvidia or driver, because I change to nv in xorg.conf, and it still slow the machine
[16:56] <ActionParsnip1> lean2501: np man
[16:59]  * ildyakonov is away: ïÔÏÛ£Ì.
[17:00] <jim> hi
[17:02] <ActionParsnip1> !away > fut_away
[17:32] <shadeslayer> hi,my friend is trying to update to kde 4.2,but the packages are not being installed
[17:33] <shadeslayer> all of them are being kept back
[17:34] <ActionParsnip1> shadeslayer: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[17:34] <shadeslayer> ok
[17:35] <shadeslayer> oooh it worked
[17:35] <shadeslayer> thanks
[17:36] <ActionParsnip1> shadeslayer: np man
[17:37] <Beardbar> anyone running jaunty? whats the deal with the package manager, kpackage it is now?
[17:37] <sirbryanheart> Hi Guys!
[17:40] <brad_> I've got the kde4.2 blues
[17:40] <brad_> i can't load the desktop
[17:43] <ActionParsnip1> brad_: have you tried resetting xorg.conf
[17:43] <Jayrock> Hello again, so how do I copy the files from a remote server on cygwin onto my harddrive?
[17:44] <ActionParsnip1> brad_: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[17:44] <Jayrock> just mv?
[17:44] <brad_> it's a plasma error
[17:44] <drsjp> If anyone is in here that can answer this simple question, should one, or should one not install Kubuntu now, or should one or should one not install KDE4.2 on an Ubuntu 8.10 machine at this time?
[17:44] <brad_> i was tranfering a file, and i tryed to stop it and plamsa died, and now it won't reload
[17:44] <ActionParsnip1> brad_: ahh
[17:44] <brad_> if I mv .kde .kde-trash it will load, but I'm sick of loosing my settings
[17:44] <ActionParsnip1> brad_: bring up konsole
[17:45] <ActionParsnip1> brad_: launch plasma
[17:45] <brad_> that crashs on startup
[17:45] <brad_> crashes
[17:46] <alarm> hello, which is the best player for video on demand ? (plugin for firefox to play online streamed tv)
[17:46] <brad_> http://pastebin.com/mad66bb3
[17:46] <alarm> mplayer seems not really what i want. vlc doesnt work at all
[17:47] <ActionParsnip1> brad_: then run: cd ~/.kde; find -name plasma*
[17:47] <brad_> kwin is still pretty
[17:47] <ActionParsnip1> brad_: then rename the files it finds
[17:48] <victim> The file or folder help:/kmail/index.html does not exist.
[17:48] <victim> where can I find it?
[17:50] <brad_> ok, now I'm going to make a backup of those files
[17:50] <ActionParsnip1> brad_: best way. just rename them
[17:51] <brad_> after I reset them, I'm making a backup
[17:52] <ActionParsnip1> brad_: as long as the files dont exist, they will be recreated
[17:53] <brad_> yea, but then my settings all get lost
[17:54] <untiled> does anyone know if is possible to sync an iphone (mounted with ipod-convenience) with amarok 2?
[17:54] <ActionParsnip1> brad_: true but it makes stuff work, you can either rename back and trouble shoot that or repopulate the blank settings
[17:55] <brad_> if I have to reset my setting one mor time, I'm going for get kde and just run xterm
[17:55] <gmclachl> untiled: I don't know for sure but I think you would be licky if you could
[17:56] <gmclachl> AFAIK amarok doesn't support playlists on the ipod
[17:56] <ActionParsnip1> brad_: try lxde
[17:56] <ActionParsnip1> gmclachl: i think it does
[17:57] <alarm> which is the best player for video on demand ? (plugin for firefox to play online streamed tv)
[17:57] <gmclachl> ActionParsnip I don;t think so, you can copy your library across but I don't think playlists work
[17:57] <gmclachl> I had to drop back to 1.4.3
[17:58] <Tm_T> gmclachl: to 1.4.3 ?!
[17:58] <Tm_T> why that old?
[17:59] <gmclachl> Tm_T: actually it is 1.4.10
[17:59] <Tm_T> phew
[17:59] <gmclachl> either way Amarok2 has not filled me with joy, but it's very much a work in progress
[18:01] <Tm_T> gmclachl: development version is rocking (;)
[18:02] <ActionParsnip1> !ipod
[18:02] <gmclachl> Tm_T: does it have playlist support for ipods?
[18:03] <gmclachl> ActionParsnip1: there is no option in amarok 2 to sync playlists
[18:03] <Tm_T> gmclachl: should, though I don't own any ipod or other portable player so cannot say for sure
[18:03] <ActionParsnip1> gmclachl: i dont use ipods. i think they are wothless
[18:04] <gmclachl> ActionParsnip1: that may be the case, but a lot of people do
[18:05] <ubuntu_> hi all
[18:05] <ActionParsnip1> gmclachl: i know, its funny
[18:05] <ubuntu_> I was trying to install jaunty, but ubiquity doesn't display any partitions, nor I'm able to make changes to the partition table
[18:07] <ActionParsnip1> !jaunty | ubuntu_
[18:07] <ubuntu_> thank :)
[18:18] <haba7> hi all! has someone got network-manager-kde and network-manager-openvpn working together? i'm struggling with https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/287875
[18:18] <Tm_T> haba7: what Ubuntu release?
[18:19] <haba7> intrepid
[18:19] <Tm_T> hmm, and KDE version then?
[18:20] <haba7> kde4... 4.1.4 i guess
[18:20] <Tm_T> haba7: may I recommend to upgrade to 4.2?
[18:20] <Tm_T> !backports | haba7
[18:21] <haba7> i c...
[18:22] <Tm_T> ic?
[18:22] <haba7> i c... i see... thinking...
[18:23] <Tm_T> haba7: ah, I already did read it as intercity... using whole words is good thing (;)
[18:23] <haba7> yes, thanks for the advice
[18:26] <noren_> is DaSkreech here
[18:26] <DaSkreech> hi
[18:26] <Tm_T> DaSkreech: lo
[18:27] <DaSkreech> hiu Tm_T
[18:27] <DaSkreech> noren_:   https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=185741#c3
[18:33] <andrew_> hola
[18:33] <andrew_> necesito ayuda soy nuevo en esto :p
[18:33] <andrew_> hay alguien que me pueda ayudar?
[18:34] <fosco__> !es
[18:34] <andrew_> hi
[18:34] <andrew_> somebody can help me
[18:34] <fosco__> just ask your question
[18:34] <andrew_> i am trying to install amarok
[18:34] <andrew_> but i can't
[18:34] <andrew_> and i come from chile
[18:35] <fosco__> sudo apt-get install amarok
[18:35] <andrew_> so i don't speak english very good
[18:35] <andrew_> no resulta
[18:35] <andrew_> don't work
[18:35] <fosco__> can you post the error message?
[18:35] <andrew_> wait
[18:36] <andrew_> i download the packacge
[18:36] <andrew_> but i can't install from these
[18:37] <andrew_> can u help me
[18:37] <andrew_> i know that i must to install by konsole
[18:37] <andrew_> but this dosn't work
[18:37] <andrew_> does't*
[18:38] <p_quarles> andrew_: post the actual error message; don't paraphrase
[18:40] <andrew_>  install /home/andrew/Documentos/amarok-2.0.1.1.tar.bz2
[18:40] <andrew_> Leyendo lista de paquetes... Hecho
[18:40] <andrew_> Creando árbol de dependencias
[18:40] <andrew_> Leyendo la información de estado... Hecho
[18:40] <andrew_> E: No se pudo encontrar el paquete
[18:40] <andrew_> this is
[18:40] <Tm_T> andrew_: don't do it that way
[18:40] <andrew_> how?
[18:41] <Tm_T> use packages
[18:41] <Tm_T> !amarok
[18:41] <Tm_T> andrew_: see that last url
[18:41] <fosco__> andrew_,  sudo apt-get install amarok
[18:42] <andrew_> but if i want to prove the lastest version
[18:42] <andrew_> because amarok hava amarok 2.0.1.1
[18:42] <andrew_> and this i download
[18:42] <andrew_> can you explainme
[18:42] <fosco__> you'd better use the version in repos
[18:42] <Tm_T> andrew_: latest Amarok is packaged to Kubuntu already, you don't need to compile it yourself
[18:42] <andrew_> aaah xD!
[18:42] <Tm_T> !neon | andrew_
[18:43] <Tm_T> if you like unstable ^
[18:43] <andrew_> ajajajajaj
[18:43] <andrew_> sorry
[18:43] <andrew_> so you say that i have to use only amarok 1.4
[18:43] <andrew_> the kubuntu's version
[18:44] <Tm_T> andrew_: no, Kubuntu has newest packaged, and newest is 2.x series
[18:44] <andrew_> yes, i download it
[18:44] <andrew_> but i can't use it
[18:44] <andrew_> because i can't install it xd
[18:45] <Tm_T> andrew_: read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Amarok
[18:45] <andrew_> your always here ? because i must to ho
[18:46] <andrew_> go*
[18:46] <Tm_T> andrew_: someone is always here, you really don't need me (:
[18:47] <andrew_> ajaja ok :)
[18:47] <andrew_> and someone speak in spanish?
[18:47] <Tm_T> !es | andrew_
[18:47] <andrew_> because i'm from chile
[18:49] <Daddy_TK> Has anyone here tried to install/run lg3d in Ubuntu 8.10?
[18:50] <Tm_T> Daddy_TK: hmm, what is this lg3d?
[18:51] <Daddy_TK> Sun Microsystems Project Looking Glass (3D desktop environment)
[18:51] <Tm_T> ah, that one, not me, brrrrrh
[18:51] <andrew_> where can i find it?
[18:52] <Daddy_TK> https://lg3d.dev.java.net/
[18:53] <Daddy_TK> I have run it under window mode and it is awsome! but I am having issues with establishing it as the xsession
[18:54] <Jayrock> so if I want to move a copy of the current working directory to my hard drive (I'm on a remote server), how do I do that?
[18:58] <Dr_Willis> lg3d - got a lot of hype.. then went nowhere. :)
[18:58] <hazamonzo> Hmm
[18:58]  * hazamonzo shakes his fist in the air at Plasma
[18:58] <Dr_Willis> now ya hear about it every so often  and ive played with it a bit then give it up.
[18:58] <p_quarles> Jayrock: scp or rsync, depending on what exactly you're attempting to do
[18:59] <Daddy_TK> Well, it may have gone nowhere, because of the current wind out there in the economy... But they developed it out enough to run...
[18:59] <Dr_Willis> lots of things 'run' :)
[18:59] <Daddy_TK> And they opened it up (albeit quietly) to open source...
[18:59] <Dr_Willis> i perfer metisse as an alteerntaive.. but i can never spell it..
[19:01] <Daddy_TK> I installed Ubuntu last month and since then I have not logged into WinXP (no desire or need to)
[19:02] <Daddy_TK> It is seeming word of mouth is starting to take over by storm here in the Houston Area, just about everyone I have talked to is trying Ubuntu
[19:03] <Daddy_TK> How well does it run on a Mac?
[19:03] <Daddy_TK> I would think it works there pretty well
[19:03] <Dr_Willis> it can run on a mac. :) and no i dont own one. so no idea
[19:04] <Daddy_TK> The only issue I would see for Mac is you need to use a REAL mouse (more than one button) to get any real work out of it...
[19:05] <Wazmyn> my wireless icon in the sys tray says "state: down" what does that mean? it it working
[19:05] <Daddy_TK> I assume you have LAN connection, yes?
[19:06] <Wazmyn> Daddy_TK: wireless lan, yes
[19:06] <Wazmyn> oh, wait nevermind
[19:06] <Daddy_TK> I am interested in what you found though
[19:06] <Wazmyn> I just realized it's giving me two reports. Wireless at top is active, wired at bottom is down
[19:07] <Daddy_TK> ok
[19:07]  * Wazmyn has a habit of reading too fast
[19:09] <Wazmyn> Dr_Willis: I've been curious for a while. What are you a doctor of?
[19:10] <haba7> Tm_T and ubottu: now i'm running kde 4.2.0 (intrepid-backports), but unfortunately https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/287875 still occurs. for some reason the bug is not assigned to anyone. do you know anything about the bug fixing process? can i vote for the bug somehow?
[19:11] <Wazmyn> haba7: ubottu is a bot. you can make it talk by !command
[19:13] <Daddy_TK{li}> MacProKubuntu64: how is it running on your machine? Do you like it?
[19:13] <MacProKubuntu64> Yes, had a few issues but its very snappy
[19:14] <haba7> Wazmyn: ok. so, it responded to Tm_T's message (had an exclamation mark on it)
[19:14] <Daddy_TK{li}> Which Mac model do you have it on?
[19:14] <Wazmyn> I'm curious. why buy a mac and put linux on it? wouldn't it be cheeper to buy a PC?
[19:14] <MacProKubuntu64> Mac Pro gen 1 2006
[19:14] <Daddy_TK{li}> Belive it or not, Mac hardware is very cutting edge...
[19:14] <MacProKubuntu64> Wazmyn: Yes it is I had bought and built numerous cheap Hackintoshs
[19:15] <Wazmyn> haba7: no problem. I talked to the thing too when I sgtarted using the channel
[19:15] <MacProKubuntu64> I prefer Mac hardware and I got it for a trade of my old Macbook Pro. Basically a $2600 comp for a $1300 Laptop
[19:15] <Wazmyn> MacProKubuntu64: and Hackintosh==non apple build running OSX?
[19:16] <MacProKubuntu64> Yep
[19:16]  * Wazmyn grunts
[19:16] <MacProKubuntu64> I have built one for under $100 it will even run on amd
[19:16] <Daddy_TK{li}> I used to build and troubleshoot Mac Clones when Apple allowed others to build
[19:16] <Wazmyn> I'll give apple for having a really nice backend - maybe the best-  but their interface is nothing short of anoying
[19:17] <Dr_Willis> but apple says its the best... so it has to be true
[19:17] <MacProKubuntu64> Apple makes great hardware that is for sure.
[19:17] <Dr_Willis> :_
[19:17] <Daddy_TK{li}> There are a few server class machines I would love to get ahold of from Motorola to run Ubuntu on...
[19:17] <Daddy_TK{li}> Like the Series 900s
[19:17] <Dr_Willis> we dont need a clear obvious min/max/close buttons when 3 balls will do! thats more efficneit!
[19:18] <Daddy_TK{li}> Mac was using SCSI long before it was available in PC world
[19:19] <Dr_Willis> and look at where scsi is now.. :)
[19:19] <Daddy_TK{li}> If they would have based the OS on BSD sooner, they could have really cornered the market...
[19:19] <MacProKubuntu64> FIrewire was also their baby :P
[19:19] <Daddy_TK{li}> Yes
[19:19] <Dr_Willis> Apple has shown time and time again.. they are their own worst enemy.
[19:19] <Daddy_TK{li}> Tell me about it...
[19:20] <Daddy_TK{li}> iPhone
[19:20] <Dr_Willis> They dont want the market.. they want the 'cream of the crop'
[19:20] <Daddy_TK{li}> No copy/paste
[19:20] <Dr_Willis> they want high profits.
[19:20] <Daddy_TK{li}> no external memory
[19:20] <Dr_Willis> "We are apple, we dont have to try harder"
[19:20] <MacProKubuntu64> Snow Leopard is pretty impressive.
[19:20] <Daddy_TK{li}> LG and RIM are strating to eat them alive
[19:21] <Dr_Willis> I got a LG video-phone now.
[19:21] <Daddy_TK{li}> snowleopard?
[19:21] <MacProKubuntu64> Allocating smart tasks to the kernel
[19:21] <MacProKubuntu64> Apples most recent OS still in development
[19:22] <MacProKubuntu64> Its moving to 64 bit
[19:22]  * BluesKaj waits for the offtopic police to pounce :)
[19:22] <Daddy_TK{li}> They need to focus on keeping the OS lighter like Ubuntu
[19:22] <Dr_Willis> 64bit - yet another thing people are getting  forced to use it seems. :) but now its everywhere.. so its not a big deal heh
[19:23] <Daddy_TK{li}> 64 bit, I am not impressed. Microsoft is forcing people to it claiming hardware limitations with 32bit
[19:23] <BluesKaj> the cranktgeeks John Dvorak is touting Ubuntu 8.10 as VG OS on his net-show
[19:24] <Daddy_TK{li}> But those people never saw what we see
[19:24] <BluesKaj> err crankygeeks
[19:24] <Daddy_TK{li}> I gotta run... wife is licking her lips for the lasagna I am preparing...
[19:25] <RurouniJones> You should stopped that sentence 6 words sooner just for the humour factor
[19:25] <Wazmyn> catching back up here, Dr_Willis what's wrong with going 64bit?
[19:25] <Daddy_TK{li}> LOL
[19:25] <Daddy_TK{li}> later...
[19:26] <Dr_Willis> Wazmyn,  its like everyone getting a Hemi Engine in their cars when they  just need a 3 cylinder..
[19:26] <Dr_Willis> :)
[19:26] <Dr_Willis> but the CPU makers have always done this "lets keep going faster! better! same profit margin!"
[19:27] <Wazmyn> Dr_Willis: well, I like my dual core cpu. it are nice and fast
[19:27] <MacProKubuntu64> I would say after using anything 64 bit its hard to go back to 32
[19:27] <Dr_Willis> Wazmyn,  and 4 years ago you thought that cpu you had then was fast.. :)
[19:27] <Dr_Willis> im impressed with the speed this atom cpu has in my netbook...
[19:27] <Wazmyn> MacProKubuntu64: exception: my beloved Opera runs properly on my 32bit desktop and don't here
[19:27] <RurouniJones> I don't see the point of goign 64bit unless you are involved in specific work that requires it or have oodles of ram
[19:27] <Wazmyn> Dr_Willis: yes i did :)
[19:27] <BluesKaj> screensaver doesn't use the settings I chose , even though the settings seem to work ok and appear normal in /system settings/desktop/screen saver/slide show, when I check ..can't figure why it's not working
[19:28]  * Wazmyn has oodles of RAM
[19:28] <Wazmyn> I trimmed back on a couple of other things when i was ordering this laptop so i could get all the RAM that would fit
[19:29] <MacProKubuntu64> I wish I had oodles of RAM :( I only have 4 of 32GB potential
[19:29] <nalioth> can anyone tell me why konqueror in intrepid is still b0rked? ( I've just dist-upgraded to 8.10 and found this )
[19:30] <MacProKubuntu64> whats wrong with konq
[19:31] <Wazmyn> MacProKubuntu64: well, I considered 4 to be oodles. That's all it will hold
[19:31] <Wazmyn> nalioth: it's working fairly well for me. just a few minor issues
[19:31] <RurouniJones> Yes, when I said oodles I basically meant over the upper limit addressable by your 32bit Os of choice
[19:31] <nalioth> Wazmyn: my left column is foll of question marks
[19:32] <MacProKubuntu64> Wazmyn: for a portable thats good but now everything moving to expensive DDR3 :(
[19:33] <Wazmyn> nalioth: just checked - working for me
[19:33] <Wazmyn> nalioth: does dolphin do the same?
[19:33] <Dekans> hello all
[19:33] <MacProKubuntu64> konq is working good here also but I didnt upgrade
[19:33] <Dekans> does anyone uses the encryption feature in koffice 2 ?
[19:34] <nalioth> Wazmyn: no
[19:34] <Dekans> when I try to encrypt a doc, saving is impossible
[19:34] <Wazmyn> nalioth: i don't know what to tell you other than use dolphin :(
[19:35] <MacProKubuntu64> How is xine for you guys? I have been experiencing a lot of skipping issues for anything that uses it. I just use gstreamer instead.
[19:39] <Dr_Willis> i tend to use gmplauyer and vlc
[19:39] <MacProKubuntu64> Most of my problems were with using Miro
[19:40] <MacProKubuntu64> But I think its a xinelib issue of some sort
[19:41] <m4v> nalioth: you upgraded from kde3 to kde4? maybe something with the config in ~/.kde?
[19:49] <Beardbar> im having issues with kpackagekit
[19:50] <Beardbar> I cant find firefox when i do a search, infact it seems like I cant find allot of apps, but my source settings look fine, unless i have to add them manually?
[19:53] <Dr_Willis> !info firefox
[19:55] <Beardbar> think its a jaunty thing, fixed it by unchecking sources and hitting apply then checking them and hitting apply and it forced an upgrade and all my sources were not populated. cool beans
[19:57] <nalioth> m4v: i have no idea what they instituted in the move from hardy to intprepid
[19:57]  * nalioth doesn't like it
[20:09] <m4v> nalioth: you can try moving the files .kde/share/config/konq* and .kde/share/apps/konq* to other place, and check if konq behaves better on restart.
[20:10] <m4v> I didn't have any problmes with konq, but still i removed them, I only kept the bookmarks.xml file.
[20:10] <nalioth> m4v: i probably need to do so
[20:27] <Guest96168> hi...I'm rying to mount a nfs share and I'm getting the following error
[20:27] <Guest96168> mount.nfs: access denied by server while mounting 192.168.0.101:/media/shared
[20:28] <bigjocker> Guest96168, do you have permission to mount the share?
[20:29] <Guest96168> how idiot...mea culpa....the ip address on the server on /etc/exports was wrong...thanks anyway :)
[20:43] <nelson__> im having trouble updating in kubuntu9
[20:43] <nelson__> i am getting an authentication failur
[20:43] <nelson__> any ideas?
[20:53] <thebe> how to delete file
[20:55] <thebe> command to delete file??
[20:55] <Dr_Willis> bash basics.. 'rm'
[20:57] <yaa_> upyachka.ru
[21:00] <wrinkliez> hey guys, can someone tell me how I upgrade kde 4.2 to 4.2.1?
[21:03] <ibuffy> can someone PLEASE help me. some apps aren't responding to my keyboard input
[21:03] <ibuffy> i badly need this fixed
[21:03] <ibuffy> i can't type in kate right now
[21:03] <ibuffy> i can't ctl-f
[21:03] <ibuffy> i can't ctl-o
[21:03] <ibuffy> i have to use my mouse for everything :|
[21:03] <sirOliver> heya
[21:04] <sirOliver> i have problems with sound, can anyone help me ?
[21:04] <ibuffy> ask away
[21:04] <sirOliver> well
[21:04] <sirOliver> its all silent lol
[21:05] <sirOliver> i have two sound cards
[21:05] <sirOliver> i installed kubuntu 8.10 today from alternative cd
[21:05] <sirOliver> aand seems like drivers and all is okay, since system recognizes them
[21:05] <sirOliver> but no sound from them at all
[21:06] <sirOliver> any ideas where to look at ?
[21:06] <simba> what is the easiest way to upgrade from 8.10 to 9.04A in kubuntu?
[21:08] <sirOliver> err, anyone ?
[21:11] <rick_> Hello
[21:11] <rick_> I am new to #kubuntu
[21:11] <simba> guess i'm stuck with getting a new cd img then
[21:11] <rick_> if I am having a problem with my kubuntu
[21:11] <rick_> is this a good place to ask questions?
[21:11] <rick_> or should i just go to the forum
[21:12] <simba> rick_: this is a good place, but it depends on who is on.
[21:13] <simba> rick_: forums are good to...
[21:14] <BluesKaj> !ask | rick_
[21:16] <ibuffy> sirOliver: sorry.. was afk
[21:16] <sirOliver> np
[21:16] <sirOliver> so, where to look for sound problems ?
[21:16] <ibuffy> sirOliver: ...
[21:16] <ibuffy> !audio
[21:17] <ibuffy> ignore the part about ARTS
[21:17] <sirOliver> arts really has to be running :S ?
[21:17] <ibuffy> NO
[21:17] <ibuffy> use the soundtroubleshooting link
[21:18] <ibuffy> arts is deprecated (sorry for the caps btw :P)
[21:18] <sirOliver> well i read that one already
[21:18] <rick_> I have intel wireless 5300 agp and with knetworkmanager and with wicd i cannot connect to any network. Connect freezes at "Getting IP Address". Wifi works in windows just fine, I reinstalled drivers and did just about everything i can find on the forums.
[21:18] <rick_> How to fix?
[21:20] <sirOliver> ibuffy: i read that thing before coming here :)
[21:20] <ibuffy> oh ...
[21:20] <sirOliver> the thing is .. it seems like hardware is all nicely recognized and all
[21:21] <sirOliver> it just seems like smth is muting output
[21:21] <Dekans> does someone can help me for doc encryption in koffice 2 ?
[21:21] <sirOliver> and i have no idea what :D
[21:22] <ibuffy> anyone know if there's an equivalent of gentoo's alsa-config?
[21:22] <ibuffy> because that always solves my problems on that distro :P
[21:22] <ibuffy> sirOliver: that's what i'm looking for you
[21:23] <sirOliver> hehe
[21:23] <sirOliver> well i was using gentoo before too :)
[21:23] <sirOliver> but i was usually manualy setting those things
[21:23] <BluesKaj> sirOliver, type alsamixer in the terminal. make sure the ctrls are NOT muted , by using the M key and set the sliders at 70% or so as well.
[21:23] <sirOliver> did that like three times already
[21:23] <ibuffy> you could try alsactl -store ___ right?
[21:24] <sirOliver> also tried as root, all levels way up
[21:24] <sirOliver> hmm i could, but that would be relevant only after reboot, no ?
[21:24] <ibuffy> store, restore... something like that
[21:24] <ibuffy> i dunno
[21:25] <sirOliver> hm
[21:25] <sirOliver> well ill try to dig deeper
[21:26] <BluesKaj> sirOliver. maybe this will help : asoundconf set-default-card "name of soundcard"
[21:26] <sirOliver> let me try :)
[21:27] <BluesKaj> sirOliver, find the name of your soundcard : aplay -l
[21:27] <sirOliver> also with : asoundconf list
[21:28] <BluesKaj> anyway ..dinnertime , BBL
[21:29] <sixofour> so i sudi alsa force-reload and lost my volume control, how do i get volume control back? 8.10
[21:29] <sixofour> sudo*
[21:30] <marek__> hi, i have a huge CAD schema in pdf to print. which app i can print one paged document as a couple of pages, with only a part of file on each other?
[21:31] <nalioth> mmmkay. what happened to the "Extract here" service menu in konqueror 4.14?
[21:32] <johnrw> damn... this is slick
[21:33] <johnrw> I installed kubuntu from the Desktop cd... but i really wanted kde 4.2.1...
[21:34] <johnrw> that's like alpha stuff, right?
[21:35] <johnrw> setting up my printer was never easier... even in XP!
[21:35] <johnrw> I just have one question... should I get the DVD... if i really want kde 4.2.1?
[21:36] <Dekans> no
[21:37] <johnrw> btw... I better give HP the plug they deserve... HP... thanks for paying close attention...!
[21:37] <Dekans> wich version did you download ?
[21:37] <hix> johnrw: if u just testing stuff, use jaunty alpha
[21:37] <johnrw> kubuntu 8.10
[21:37] <johnrw> I did it on bittorrent
[21:37] <bazhang> johnrw, 4.2 is available by enabling backports
[21:37] <sixofour> you can upgrade kde with apt-get
[21:37] <Dekans> if you want kde 4.2 you have to add a repo in your source.list
[21:38] <Dekans> and then you will upgrade from kde 4.1 to 4.2
[21:38] <sixofour> is that wiser?
[21:38] <sixofour> wise*
[21:38] <bazhang> not 4.2.1 though
[21:38] <sixofour> i hear newest kde is like..meh
[21:38] <Dekans> oh yes backports right
[21:38] <Dekans> easier and safer :p
[21:38] <bazhang> that is still experimental iirc
[21:39] <johnrw> It is in a VirtualBox VM...
[21:39] <Dekans> but is it 4.2 or 4.2.1 in backports ?
[21:39] <bazhang> 4.2
[21:39] <johnrw> I don't care about safe... It's all virtual anyways...
[21:39] <bazhang> 4.1 works great here
[21:39] <Dekans> johnrw: you can try kde 4.2 is nicer and more stabve than kde 4.1
[21:40] <sixofour> how is 4.2 stabler than 4.1?
[21:40] <bazhang> your mileage may vary though; many reportedly love 4.2
[21:40] <sixofour> how do you find your current kde version?
[21:40] <bazhang> I would guess its mostly the eye-candy :)
[21:40] <johnrw> konqueror -> about kde
[21:40] <hix> kded4 --version
[21:40] <sixofour> 4.1.4 :D
[21:41] <johnrw> lol
[21:42] <johnrw> i can say... that there are no apps... from the cd install... Like where's firefox?
[21:42] <johnrw> Is that on the dvd?
[21:42] <Dr_Willis> its in the repos if you want
[21:42] <Dr_Willis> might be on the dvd's not sure
[21:42] <bazhang> !info firefox-3.0
[21:42] <Dr_Willis> I neer use the dvd.
[21:43] <johnrw> so what is the update cmd in kubuntu? apt-get?
[21:43] <sixofour> safe and easy web browser..lol
[21:43] <Dr_Willis> !apt-get
[21:43] <johnrw> cool...
[21:43] <bazhang> sudo apt-get install firefox-3.0
[21:44] <Dr_Willis> try it and see :)
[21:44] <Dr_Willis> !info firefox
[21:44] <Dr_Willis> or use 'firefox' as a alternative name
[21:44] <johnrw> at least you guys don't use iceweasel!
[21:45] <Dr_Willis> dosent really matter. :)
[21:45] <Dr_Willis> !love
[21:45] <bazhang> scary iceweasels
[21:45] <johnrw> lol
[21:46] <BluesKaj> heh, like the old song goes "beware when the iceworms nest again"  :)
[21:50] <rick_> I have intel wireless 5300 agp and with knetworkmanager and with wicd i cannot connect to any network. Connect freezes at "Getting IP Address". Wifi works in windows just fine, I reinstalled drivers and did just about everything i can find on the forums. How can I fix this?
[21:51] <carpii> see if it works with a static ip
[21:51] <rick_> Okay
[21:52] <johnrw> are you using encryption on your AP?
[21:52] <rick_> i disabled that
[21:52] <johnrw> smart
[21:53] <rick_> okay
[21:53] <rick_> i set my static ip
[21:53] <johnrw> does your card need firmware?
[21:53] <rick_> what do I put in dns?
[21:53] <rick_> yes i installed taht
[21:53] <rick_> plus it is supposed to be supported by drivers that are in the linux kernel itself
[21:53] <johnrw> ok... just going down through the usual checklist... :)
[21:54] <rick_> regardless i reinstalled the linux drivers over
[21:54] <rick_> rebooted etc.
[21:54] <rick_> I can connect to my network when i am on top of my router
[21:54] <rick_> literally within 2-3 meters
[21:54] <rick_> then i can connect
[21:54] <rick_> but any farther i cannot
[21:54] <rick_> I tested the card with windows 7 and with the intel driver it works fine
[21:54] <johnrw> aaaah... power is not up...
[21:55] <rick_> and i tested the network from a distance, that works too
[21:55] <rick_> power is not up?
[21:55] <johnrw> yeah... there are usually cmds that you can make to tell the wireless card to increase power...
[21:56] <rick_> oh
[21:56] <rick_> interesting
[21:56] <rick_> this is something new i have not heard
[21:56] <johnrw> it can depend on what driver you are using...
[21:56] <rick_> i heard about using ndiswrapper with windows drivers
[21:56] <rick_> is this something i should try
[21:57] <rick_> Since the hardware works
[21:57] <johnrw> or maybe googling your wirless model and transmit power
[21:57] <rick_> its a driver issue or a configuration issue
[21:57] <rick_> play
[21:57] <rick_> oaky
[21:57] <rick_> bleh cant type
[21:57] <johnrw> just a sec...
[21:57] <johnrw> I will look in my router... and see how I did it...
[21:58] <rick_> oh
[21:58] <rick_> not on the card
[21:58] <rick_> but on the router?
[21:58] <rick_> well router works
[21:59] <rick_> i can connect on any other machine
[21:59] <rick_> from a reasonable distance
[21:59] <rick_> also i can connect from windows on this machine
[22:00] <johnrw> rick_:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/131314/
[22:00] <johnrw> that is the output from iwconfig...
[22:00] <rick_>  interface txpower {NmW|NdBm|off|auto}
[22:00] <rick_> which do i want?
[22:00] <johnrw> right
[22:00] <johnrw> first make sure it sees your wireless...
[22:00] <Dr_Willis> when in doubt go with 'auto' ?
[22:01] <rick_> okay hold on
[22:01] <rick_> http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3102333.0
[22:01] <moreno> NIBIRU JA PASSOU VEJAM: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikUDS2DQxgo
[22:01] <rick_> that is my post
[22:02] <johnrw> try iwconfig by itself to find out what the interface name for the wireless is...
[22:02] <johnrw> it should show you what the current power setting is
[22:03] <rick_> wlan0     IEEE 802.11abgn  ESSID:"Livernet"
[22:03] <Dr_Willis> Livernet? :)
[22:03] <rick_> well
[22:03] <Dr_Willis> Guess i cant say anytying.. My Network is named "Barbie" after the dog...
[22:03] <rick_> explaining would be a breach of my online anonymity
[22:03] <rick_> :)
[22:05] <johnrw> here is my wireless output http://paste.ubuntu.com/131316/
[22:05] <johnrw> 17db
[22:05] <johnrw> (it can do more... but it's just for the printer... and the occasional laptop)
[22:06] <rick_> so
[22:06] <rick_> what should i change it to?
[22:06] <rick_> i just changed it to auto
[22:07] <johnrw> I would say 24db
[22:07] <rick_> sudo iwconfig wlan0 txpower 24db
[22:07] <rick_> i just did that
[22:07] <rick_> no errors
[22:07] <rick_> shall i test?
[22:07] <johnrw> great, now see if you can connect
[22:07] <rick_> kk
[22:07] <rick_> brb
[22:07] <johnrw> from farther away...
[22:08] <rick_> (this is the laptop, im walking away
[22:08] <rick_> )
[22:08] <johnrw> lol
[22:10] <rick__> okay
[22:10] <rick__> okay
[22:10] <rick__> that did not work
[22:10] <rick__> :(
[22:11] <rick__> Bit Rate=12 Mb/s   Tx-Power=15 dBm
[22:11] <rick__> i did not set it correctly...
[22:13] <johnrw> were there any messages in dmesg?
[22:14] <rick__> how to acces dmesg
[22:14] <johnrw> type dmesg
[22:14] <johnrw> in the console
[22:14] <rick__> oh my
[22:14] <rick__> uhh
[22:14] <rick__> hold on
[22:14]  * rick__ reads through the tower of text
[22:14] <johnrw> try dmesg|tail
[22:14] <Dr_Willis> or tail -f /var/log/messages (i think)
[22:15] <johnrw> right... no need for all the boot messages...
[22:15] <rick__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/131329/
[22:16] <johnrw> that looks good...
[22:16] <johnrw> what model is this wireless?
[22:16] <johnrw> Intel...
[22:17] <rick__> intel 5300 agn
[22:17] <rick__> but that was log from when i reconnected
[22:17] <rick__> from right on top of my wireles
[22:17] <rick__> brw
[22:17] <rick__> btw
[22:17] <rick__> Bit Rate=11 Mb/s   Tx-Power=15 dBm
[22:17] <rick__> tx power didnt change
[22:18] <BluesKaj> rick__ , are you able to connect using the kubuntu live cd ?
[22:18] <rick__> uhhhhhh
[22:18] <rick__> well
[22:18] <rick__> when i first installed kubuntu
[22:18] <rick__> i could cnceonnect o
[22:18] <rick__> urg touchpad...
[22:19] <rick__> i could connect once
[22:19] <rick__> and since that first connection
[22:19] <rick__> i could not connect
[22:19] <rick__> too bad i did not milk that first connect for all it was worth
[22:20] <rick__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/131332/
[22:20] <rick__> that is my iwconfig
[22:21] <rick__> i cannot change my tx power
[22:21] <johnrw> Well it seems even in windows... that card has connection problems... http://forums.lenovo.com/lnv/board/message?board.id=W_ThinkPads&thread.id=1722
[22:21] <rick__> at least it appears to not be changing
[22:22] <rick__> oh great...
[22:22] <rick__> well on windows 7 build 7048 x64, which i have installed on my other partition, it works just fine
[22:22] <rick__> after installing drivers
[22:22] <johnrw> it can be solved in windows with latest drivers etc... and to make sure power management does not set the card into power save mode etc...
[22:23] <johnrw> latest drivers would be in windows 7 probably...
[22:23] <johnrw> but if Intel just got it working then maybe linux will be behind that a bit...
[22:24] <rick__> no
[22:24] <rick__> drivers were on a cd that came with my compy
[22:24] <rick__> without the driver it did not work
[22:24] <rick__> windows 7 drivers actually are not particularly great currently
[22:24] <johnrw> at any rate, the card is not accepting the cmd from the kernel to change power settings...
[22:24] <rick__> but i supports vista drivers
[22:25] <rick__> yeah
[22:25] <rick__> okay
[22:25] <rick__> ill try this ndiswrapper thing?
[22:25] <johnrw> oh wait...
[22:25] <johnrw> did you ever do the iwconfig wlan0 commit cmd?
[22:25] <rick__> no
[22:26] <rick__> lol
[22:26] <johnrw> you have to do a ifconfig <wireless eth device> down
[22:26] <johnrw> first...
[22:26] <johnrw> It has been a while since I setup my OpenWRT router... It's that good!
[22:27] <rick__> SET failed on device wlan0 ; Operation not supported.
[22:27] <rick__> sh*t
[22:27] <johnrw> okay... what does ifconfig say...
[22:27] <johnrw> pastebin that
[22:28] <rick__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/131335/
[22:29] <johnrw> sudo ifconfig wlan0 down does not work?
[22:30] <rick__> yes it does
[22:30] <rick__> i just did it
[22:30] <rick__> did the wrong command
[22:31] <rick__> okay
[22:31] <rick__> so what order do i do things?
[22:31] <johnrw> now you can try the iwconfig cmd
[22:31] <rick__> okay
[22:31] <rick__> okay now what?
[22:32] <johnrw> first the power and then do sudo iwconfig wlan0 twpower 24db
[22:32] <rick__> first the power?
[22:32] <johnrw> i mean sudo iwconfig wlan0 commit
[22:32] <rick__> okay
[22:32] <johnrw> after you set the power to 24db
[22:32] <rick__> Error for wireless request "Commit changes" (8B00) :
[22:33] <rick__> SET failed on device wlan0 ; Operation not supported.
[22:33] <acemoo> When i choose Try Kubuntu(jaunty) without any change to your computer, i see the blue loading bar and after that, screen goes black. Any idea on how i can figure out what might cause this and or how to fix it?
[22:33] <rick__> check your cd
[22:33] <rick__> make sure its a valid image
[22:33] <rick__> i have gone though countless dvds and cds for installing various operating systems...
[22:34] <rick__> most of them ubuntu
[22:34] <johnrw> ok... well rick__ what driver is linux using?
[22:34] <acemoo> rick__: thats already running, but i doubt thats the problem since i have had this problem since alpha 4
[22:35] <acemoo> rick__: too bad.. Check finished: no errors found.
[22:36] <rick__> okay
[22:36] <rick__> i am using
[22:36]  * rick__ thinks
[22:36]  * rick__ searches
[22:39] <ibuffy> i FINALLY figured out the keyboard problems: scim
[22:39] <ibuffy> if i exit scim.. the problems don't exist :|
[22:39] <johnrw> hmmm... here the driver is iwlagn... do you have the same driver ? http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-laptop-and-netbook-25/intel-link-5300-iwlagn-doesnt-see-any-networks-695614/
[22:39] <ibuffy> however i use scim on a regular basis
[22:41] <rick__> um
[22:41] <rick__> hold on
[22:41] <rick__> sorry
[22:41] <rick__> i was afk
[22:41] <rick__> i had to peel a potato...
[22:41] <rick__> dont ask....
[22:42] <acemoo> ...?
[22:42] <rick__> ? means a question, and i said dont ask....
[22:42] <acemoo> :D
[22:42] <rick__> oh yeah
[22:42] <rick__> i did that
[22:42] <rick__> i installed ever single driver on that page
[22:43] <rick__> theoretically you could plug any intel card ever made into my computer
[22:43] <rick__> and it would work
[22:43] <rick__> but actually
[22:43] <rick__> the one i have plugged into it doesnt seem to want to work...
[22:43] <rick__> i am wondering
[22:43] <rick__> should i try ndiswrapper?
[22:43] <rick__> and use the windows driver?
[22:43] <johnrw> rick__: that adapter is kinda bleeding edge...
[22:44] <rick__> oh my hands smell like potato...
[22:44] <johnrw> N
[22:44] <rick__> it is
[22:44] <rick__> yeah
[22:44] <rick__> my computer is bleeding edge
[22:44] <rick__> my operating systems are bleeding edge
[22:44] <rick__> my hand is bleeding where my potato peeler cut it!
[22:45] <rick__> maybe it all just needs a bandaid
[22:45] <rick__> lots of bandaids
[22:46] <rick__> well
[22:46] <acemoo> rick__: ever been quoted on bash.org?
[22:46] <rick__> no
[22:46] <rick__> not yet
[22:46] <rick__> feel free to
[22:46] <acemoo> ^^
[22:46] <rick__> ill share it with my friends
[22:46] <rick__> sorry
[22:46] <rick__> ill start being srs
[22:46] <rick__> XD
[22:46] <acemoo> Quote #884617 is pending moderation.
[22:47] <johnrw> ok... like here... in kernel 2.6.27 rc5 there was no support for it... http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=54608 so my best guess would be to see if you can build a kernel that has linux compat-wireless for the latest in that driver...
[22:48] <rick__> oh dear
[22:48] <avoid> Do you guys know why I got some black stripes over my screenẞ
[22:48] <rick__> okay
[22:48] <johnrw> but since you are new to dmesg... I would think seriously about getting a well supported wireless card...
[22:48] <rick__> well
[22:48] <rick__> i am new to it
[22:48] <johnrw> Atheros...
[22:48] <rick__> but i believe i understand it
[22:48] <rick__> i am not particularly noobish
[22:48] <bazhang> avoid, with desktop effects or not
[22:48] <avoid> urgh..where I can see them
[22:48] <rick__> this is a laptop
[22:49] <rick__> I am leaving the US in 4 days
[22:49] <rick__> and i dont really want to rip out my card and try to get a new one in that time
[22:49] <johnrw> laptops have a way to change wireless cards... i do it all the time...
[22:49] <avoid> bazhang..how i can change my..desktop effects
[22:50] <rick__> yeah
[22:50] <johnrw> I yank anything not Atheros out... hell I have a bag of them...
[22:50] <rick__> but i dont have a way of acquiring one
[22:50] <rick__> cheaply
[22:50] <rick__> and quickly
[22:50] <bazhang> avoid, this is kubuntu 8.10?
[22:50] <rick__> unless you want to overnite one too me
[22:50] <johnrw> lol
[22:50] <rick__> just to be nice
[22:50] <avoid> i dont know
[22:51] <johnrw> I am afraid all mine are taken...
[22:51] <bazhang> lsb_release -a in konsole avoid
[22:52] <avoid> 8.10
[22:52] <avoid> yes..so how I can..fix this
[22:52] <josh-l> hi all, woke up this morning turnned on my machine (running jaunty) and all of a sudden I can't for the life of me connect to my wireless router... its not the router as i'm connected on this current machine wirelessly...
[22:52] <paul_> can anyone help me with installing proprietary fglrx driver?
[22:52] <rick__> how do i figure out what my kernel version is?
[22:53] <bazhang> uname -r in konsole
[22:53] <johnrw> but you will need to know what kind of slot your wireless card is on... in order to even think about getting a better card... the usual is minipci... but for late model stuff... that may have changed...
[22:53] <josh-l> the network manager tries over and over to connect continuously asking me for the kdey (which I know to be correct)... but It never connects and eventually just notifies me that it failed
[22:53] <avoid> 2.6.27-7-generic
[22:53] <bazhang> avoid, kmenu-->system settings-->desktop-->desktop effects (uncheck box)
[22:54] <bazhang> josh-l, try from the konsole
[22:54] <rick__> i have 2.6.27-11-generic which is supposed to support this card
[22:54] <rick__> oh bother
[22:54] <avoid> there is no X in it..it isnt active
[22:55] <josh-l> bazhang, I forget how... "iwconfig wlan0 essid blah key blah" ? then what
[22:55] <johnrw> anyone know how rick__ could build compat-wireless ?
[22:55] <bazhang> avoid, do you have drivers installed for your card
[22:55] <rick__> do i have to build it into the kernal
[22:55] <rick__> why cant i just install it?
[22:55] <bazhang> josh-l, does iwconfig show it associated to ap?
[22:55] <avoid> mhh i downloaded them..but how can i run them..or..install them
[22:55] <paul_> can anyone help me with installing proprietary fglrx driver?
[22:55] <josh-l> bazhang, no
[22:56] <bazhang> josh-l, is the ap encrypted or not
[22:56] <josh-l> bazhang, yes with wep
[22:56] <rogue_> can I make a backup script for synaptic to automatically load all the packages I currently have selected in this installation for future installations?
[22:56] <johnrw> rick__: google around for compat-wireless and maybe throw in your OS
[22:56] <bazhang> oof
[22:57] <bazhang> josh-l, let me get a weblink for that
[22:57] <josh-l> bazhang, great thanks
[22:57] <rick__> i have the source of compat-wireless
[22:57] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=571188 josh-l
[22:57] <rick__> why is it that i cant just make sudo make install?
[22:57] <bazhang> avoid, did you check hardware drivers to see if there are any available for that card?
[22:58] <bazhang> avoid, what card make and model by the way
[22:59] <bazhang> rick__, does ifconfig in konsole show it (typically wlan0 or the like)
[22:59] <avoid> ok..i am completly new to linux..i dont know anything about linux
[23:00] <rick__> yeah
[23:00] <rick__> hold on
[23:00] <johnrw> rick__: this confirms there should be a way to get compat-wireless someone here that knows... how... https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kernel-team/2009-February/thread.html
[23:00] <rick__> i installed some stuff
[23:00] <rick__> rebooting
[23:00] <rick__> oh
[23:00] <bazhang> avoid, kmenu -->system-->hardware drivers ? check there
[23:01] <rick__> ude
[23:01] <rick__> dude
[23:01] <rick__> I know who
[23:01] <josh-l> bazhang, well thats just odd no dhcpofferes co working leases sleeping...
[23:01] <rick__> how
[23:01] <rick__> i know how to get compat-wireless
[23:01] <rick__> and i did
[23:01] <johnrw> great.!
[23:01] <bazhang> avoid, knowing your card and model dont really rely on linux knowledge :)
[23:02] <avoid> yea..
[23:02] <bazhang> josh-l, the best test is to open the router (ie no encryption) if at all possible
[23:02] <johnrw> rick__: that will probably be the best hope for your bleeding edge card...
[23:02] <josh-l> bazhang, but i connected last night from my linux box, and right now i'm connected on my windows box
[23:03] <rick__> what i dont understand
[23:03] <rick__> is can i just open this source and make it?
[23:03] <avoid> so..how i can install firefox for example..i just downloaded it
[23:03] <bazhang> josh-l, and I have had to do the sudo dhclient wlan0 two or three times on occasion to get it to connect if not associated
[23:03] <rick__> or do i have to compile it into mah kernel
[23:03] <josh-l> weird plain weird
[23:03] <bazhang> avoid, sudo apt-get install firefox
[23:03] <rick__> when in doubt
[23:04] <avoid> what the ... is apt-get
[23:04] <rick__> apt-cache search [YOUR APP NAME HERE]
[23:04] <johnrw> btw: your Intel driver may have decided to ignore some of the usual linux mechanisms... huh... you better read INSTALL maybe...
[23:04] <josh-l> bazhang, you know whats odder is in the last week ive been on and off kde 4.2 and never once had the problem on kde 4.1 but many times on kde 4.2
[23:04] <avoid> explain it for a newby
[23:04] <rick__> type it into a console
[23:04] <bazhang> avoid, dont download stuff from 3rd party sites
[23:04] <josh-l> different distros too
[23:04] <rick__> hmm
[23:04] <avoid> it was from the orginal ff site
[23:04] <bazhang> avoid, look for it in the ubuntu software repositories first and foremost :)
[23:05] <avoid> aand..where i can find them
[23:05] <bazhang> avoid, and in this case ubuntu has firefox
[23:05] <avoid> kubuntu xP
[23:06] <bazhang> avoid, via a search in your package manager, or using the konsole to search: apt-cache search firefox (for example)
[23:06] <bazhang> avoid, right K(ubuntu) :)
[23:06] <avoid> oh...yea..sorry
[23:07] <bazhang> not that much difference so I tend to refer to them all as ubuntu; sorry about that :)
[23:07] <Dr_Willis> *buntu
[23:08] <bazhang> avoid, you have add/remove, adept package manager, synaptic (need to install, bit better than adept), or the konsole/terminal; the first are graphical, the last are command line
[23:09] <rick__> while i fix my wireless
[23:09] <rick__> here is a question for you all
[23:09] <deitarion> What's the simplest way to get english spellchecking working in OpenOffice for Kubuntu Hardy?
[23:09] <rick__> when i am in textboxes
[23:09] <bazhang> avoid, so typically if you know a package name (ie firefox) then you could type sudo apt-get install firefox and it would install it for you.
[23:09] <rick__> on firefox
[23:09] <rick__> my cursor does not update when i type
[23:09] <rick__> the little blinking cursor that shows where you are typing
[23:09] <rick__> lags behind majorly
[23:09] <rick__> any solutions?
[23:20] <bazhang> avoid, close synaptic, adept, or add/remove (any and all)
[23:21] <josh-l> bazhang, okay this has something to do with kde 4.2 ... i rebooted the machine used a ubuntu intrepid live, logged onto desktop and put in my router key and it logged right in...!
[23:22] <josh-l> what do I do?
[23:23] <bazhang> josh-l, that does sound like a 4.2 issue; as you said it worked with 4.1
[23:23] <josh-l> yeah weird how can i down grade the network manager?
[23:28] <bazhang> josh-l, no way to downgrade that I am aware of (ie non-painfully)
[23:28] <josh-l> bazhang, can you walk me through switching from networkmanager to wicd then?
[23:29] <bazhang> josh-l, iirc that involves removing network-manager; let me see I can find a weblink
[23:30] <josh-l> bazhang, I read you can also remove it from the init scripts
[23:31] <acemoo> It seems X server dies on me while starting..
[23:32] <bazhang> http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3099106.0 josh-l
[23:33] <josh-l> thanks bazhang trying now
[23:36] <josh-l> bazhang, those were instructions for installing wicd, but wicd is already available in the repos i have currently added, so that shouldnt be a problem, but i need instructions on actually replacing networkmanager with wicd
[23:37] <linknet> NFNCNDCVDS
[23:37] <linknet> DFVDSF
[23:37] <linknet> FS
[23:37] <linknet> FS
[23:37] <linknet> F
[23:37] <linknet> FFSDFSDF
[23:37] <linknet> FSFF
[23:37] <bazhang> linknet, stop
[23:37] <linknet> FFSDF
[23:38] <bazhang> josh-l, sudo apt-get install wicd does not do it?
[23:38] <linknet> C
[23:39] <bazhang> !sk | linknet
[23:39] <josh-l> bazhang, im trying i forgot that machine wasnt connected :P i'll run to the router real quick :)
[23:39] <linknet> BB
[23:39] <linknet> C
[23:39] <linknet> XXC
[23:39] <linknet> V
[23:39] <p_quarles> !ops
[23:39] <bazhang> !ops | linknet
[23:40] <Guest10924> ciao
[23:40] <Guest10924> !list
[23:40] <LjL> !it
[23:45] <Guest49035> ciao
[23:45] <Guest49035> !list
[23:45] <Guest49035> !list
[23:46] <bazhang> !it | Guest49035
[23:49] <Borg7-9> can anybody help us with some network question
[23:49] <Dr_Willis> ask and see.
[23:50] <Borg7-9> we have two internet connections, can we merge them in to one? They are 4mbs each can we have 8?
[23:52] <mefisto__> nice question
[23:52] <drostie> Borg7-9: In principle, yes, but I don't know of any good packages that balance load over multiple separate internet connection lines.
[23:52] <Guest61622> hola quien esta aqui
[23:53] <Borg7-9> !spain
[23:53] <Borg7-9> !spainsh
[23:53] <mefisto__> !es
[23:53] <Borg7-9> thanks mefisto__:P
[23:53] <drostie> mefisto__ beat me to it just barely. ^_^
[23:54] <Borg7-9> !borg
[23:54] <Borg7-9> !kl
[23:54] <Borg7-9> !klingon
[23:55] <Guest61622> How to install something for linux
[23:56] <Guest61622> How to install something for linux
[23:56] <amortvigil> hello what can i do with this error??:  ls -al
[23:56] <amortvigil> whoo[ps
[23:56] <amortvigil> this one: gtk_tree_view_set_cursor_on_cell: assertion `tree_view->priv->tree != NULL' failed
[23:57] <drostie> Guest61622: For Debian-like systems, you can generally open a text console, type in [aptitude search something] to find a package name, then [sudo apt-get install packagename] to install it.
[23:57] <mefisto__> Guest61622: or use adept manager if you prefer a gui
[23:57] <josh-l> bazhang, well that didnt fix my problem (installin wicd/removing network manager)