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[00:31] <wgrant> Why does the bottom of the LP login/registration page tell me that you'll never disclose or share my personal information, when by default all of my information except my password is visible on my user page?
[00:32] <statik> hi rockstar, i'm back for 5 minutes to implement your review comments, then i'm going looking for old movies
[00:32] <rockstar> statik, cool, I'm about to head out to BSG/BBQ
[00:32] <rockstar> statik, were the changes I suggested okay, or were you thinking something different?
[00:32] <statik> rockstar: i'm making the changes you asked for, but i think maybe 'subject' doesn't show up in the web ui right now
[00:33] <rockstar> statik, it does, but it's only populated from emails.
[00:33] <statik> rockstar: but i think the changes you asked for are more consistent with the data model, and i'm doing them now
[00:33] <rockstar> Er, unless you do it through the API.
[00:33] <statik> huh. it didn't work for me when i tried it. anyhoo, if theres a bug there, it's in the UI, not the API
[00:34] <rockstar> statik, absolutely.  Also, this week I got a lot done on Launchpad itself to give us some more flexibility.
[00:34] <statik> i don't know how i manage to lose a branch i only started 2 hours ago, but i can't find it. good think i pushed it to launchpad
[00:34] <rockstar> statik, did you see my addition of configs?
[00:34] <statik> rockstar: i haven't, no
[00:35] <statik> rockstar: what do configs do?
[00:35] <rockstar> statik, so now you can set up project configs in the config file, like the test_command, etc. so you can just run tarmac-lander tarmac and it figures out the test_command stuff from the config.
[00:37]  * rockstar heads out to eat food and watch BSG
[00:38] <statik> rockstar: nice! fixed, and pushed revision 55. have a great weekend!
[00:45] <MTecknology> How can I go about having a user renamed?
[00:45] <MTecknology> https://launchpad.net/~drupal
[00:46] <MTecknology> I tried emailing them but the email address used no longer exists
[00:46] <wgrant> MTecknology: Ask a question at https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+addquestion
[00:46] <wgrant> But you don't want ~drupal.
[00:47] <wgrant> As you are not the Drupal team.
[00:47] <MTecknology> hrm?
[00:48] <MTecknology> I want to create a team there, I'm talking to someone else about taking over the drupal project in launchpad and then I'm going to finish what kiko was talking about
[00:49] <wgrant> MTecknology: Why do you want the Drupal project? You're not an upstream vanilla Drupal person, are you?
[00:50] <MTecknology> wgrant: I could do drupal-modules instead?
[00:50] <wgrant> MTecknology: What exactly do you want to do?
[00:50] <MTecknology> wgrant: I'm working on a few projects that I want to become part of a super project.
[00:51] <wgrant> What are these projects?
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[00:53] <MTecknology> drupal-launchpad, drupal-openid, drupal-teams, drupal-planet, and we're talking about a few more
[00:55] <kiko> wgrant, a bunch of drupal modules IOW
[00:55] <wgrant> Ah, so it's somewhat geeneric.
[00:55] <wgrant> kiko!
[00:55] <MTecknology> what is iow?
[00:55] <wgrant> So, the drupal project group might work, indeed.
[00:55] <MTecknology> oh!
[00:55] <MTecknology> in one word *
[00:55] <wgrant> But project *group*, not project.
[00:55] <wgrant> in other words?
[00:56] <MTecknology> oh
[00:56] <_Andrew> In my ppa if I copy binaries from one distro series (hardy) to another (intrepid) it won't break will it? I was under the assumption that you should compile from source however launchpad doesn't allow that
[00:56] <wgrant> _Andrew: You can't compile the same source in the same PPA twice.
[00:57] <wgrant> _Andrew: In general copying from Hardy to Intrepid should be fine, but make sure you check that it installs afterwards.
[00:57] <_Andrew> ok, what about jaunty?
[00:57] <_Andrew> Same?
[00:58] <wgrant> Probably.
[00:58] <wgrant> But the further you copy, the more likely something is to break.
[00:58] <wgrant> You can fairly reasonably expect that it will either fail to install or work fine.
[00:58] <wgrant> So an install test is really all you need to do, and you can do that even before you do the copy.
[00:59] <MTecknology> kiko: Just thinking - Would it make sense to move drupal to drupal-project, and make it a part of the drupal project group?
[00:59] <_Andrew> What about copying binaries to previous distros? Is it the same or is that not a good idea?
[00:59] <MTecknology> kiko: I sent an email asking the current maintainer what they would think about creating a project group
[01:00] <kiko> MTecknology, well, I'd just create a drupal-project project group?
[01:00] <MTecknology> kiko: that works too :P
[01:00] <wgrant> _Andrew: It might work, particularly if you're copying between Intrepid and later, but in general it won't work. Most things will still indicate that by failing to install, however.
[01:00] <_Andrew> ok thanks, that's all I needed to know
[01:00] <wgrant> kiko: Is there nothing better? We already have launchpad-project which isn't actually a project...
[01:01] <MTecknology> kiko: should I file a question for just that?
[01:01] <kiko> wgrant, what could be better?
[01:01] <kiko> wgrant, launchpad-project IS a project
[01:01] <wgrant> kiko: No, it's a project group, and launchpad without the project is a project...
[01:02] <wgrant> Unless you are talking about the code.
[01:03] <kiko> oh
[01:03] <kiko> hm
[01:06] <wgrant> kiko: It might have been right when it was created years ago, but since the rename it isn't!
[01:06]  * wgrant -> lunch.
[01:12] <MTecknology> kiko: if you're up for it - https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/64088
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[01:41] <MTecknology> kiko: I sent stu an email about correcting that
[02:15] <vadi2> hi
[02:16] <vadi2> the new fancy bug title changer does not like this sign: ▸
[02:16] <vadi2> it says it is not a valid JSON element
[04:09] <adelie421> Anyone else having connectivity issues with launchpad.net?
[04:10] <kyphi> kyphi here - is any one at home?
[04:10] <wgrant> adelie421: Hm, indeed.
[04:10] <adelie421> I just registered my pg and rsa public keys, and when I tried moving forward through the motu tutorial, it asked to confirm my openID, then came up with an error and said to come here  :)
[04:10] <wgrant> spm: Things are borked.
[04:13] <Silense28> Has anyone here noticed Launchpad being slow, or is it juts me?
[04:13] <Silense28> just*
[04:13] <wgrant> Silense28: It seems to be a general problem.
[04:14] <kyphi> wgrant: I would like to ask a question - am I interrupting something?
[04:14] <Silense28> kyphi: Don't ask to ask a question, just ask
[04:14] <wgrant> kyphi: Other than everybody noticing that Launchpad is somewhat slow/broken at the moment, no.
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[04:16] <kyphi> I have been a long time contributor to answer questions in launchpad and have wondered recently if the question/answer section is ever moderated or is it self-regulating?
[04:16] <wgrant> kyphi: It's not moderated.
[04:17] <wgrant> Occasionally requests will be made to remove spam, but that is very infrequently required.
[04:19] <adelie421> seems the site is quite borked atm, as noted above
[04:19] <BasicPRO> from middle of US, borked as well
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[04:20] <kyphi> So that means that anyone who may be intellectually impoverished or incapable of a coherent answer or lacking in technical knowledge can write a load of drivel and that is tolerated?
[04:20] <wgrant> Hopefully Nagios will notice and wake somebody up.
[04:20] <wgrant> kyphi: Yes, but then we tell them off.
[04:20] <adelie421> Maybe someone noticed me signing the code of conduct and scrambled to take the server down to prevent it.
[04:20] <kyphi> we?
[04:20] <adelie421> kyphi: no, that is what brainstorm is for
[04:20] <wgrant> adelie421: Hahaha.
[04:21] <wgrant> Yes, Brainstorm does that.
[04:21] <kyphi> Is that another forum?
[04:21] <adelie421> If I am in need of flaming someone, I go there
[04:22] <wgrant> kyphi: brainstorm.ubuntu.com - it's a place for users to submit ideas.
[04:22] <kyphi> I have no wish to upset anyone
[04:23] <adelie421> kyphi: yes, it is a place where noobs complain about the interface and make feature requests for things that already exist, and want every package they use to be included by default, and remove the command line.
[04:23] <b1n42y> heelp http://paste.ubuntu.com/130892/
[04:23] <sisto> Sorry, there was a problem connecting to the Launchpad server.
[04:23] <sisto>  Try reloading this page in a minute or two. If the problem persists, let us know in the #launchpad IRC channel on Freenode.
[04:23] <sisto> any clues?
[04:24] <wgrant> sisto: See the topic.
[04:24] <adelie421> getting same problem
[04:24] <wgrant> b1n42y: I see you're getting a solution in #u-au-chat.
[04:25] <kyphi> adelie421: I have used Ubuntu as my main OS for about 3 years and I know where things are and am familiar with the CLI - so brainstorm.ubuntu.com does not seem appropriate.
[04:27] <adelie421> kyphi: it is a strange place because it is super user friendly and hypothetically a great place to collect and vote on ideas... Unfortunately I think newer people see the voting and misunderstand its purpose poll == feedback, poll != democracy
[04:28] <adelie421> not to mention community != democracy
[04:30] <kyphi> adelie421: democracy? there is no such thing - there have always been more fools than wise men (and women) and somebody has to lead.  Please forgive my cynicism.
[04:33] <kyphi> adelie421 and wgrant: I will heed your advice and visit brainstorm.  Thank you for indulging me.
[04:33] <lamalex> Hey, I can't find how to upload a package to pppa
[04:33] <lamalex> can anyone tell me how?
[04:33] <wgrant> cprov: Can you save us?
[04:33] <wgrant> lamalex: The same as a PPA.
[04:34] <cprov> wgrant: something bad is happening, http://launchpadlibrarian.net/ is dead.
[04:34] <lamalex> wgrant: ? that's what Im asking
[04:34] <b1n42y> wgrant: wow how did you know that !!!
[04:34] <lamalex> i can't find the upload linkk
[04:35] <wgrant> cprov: Yes.
[04:35] <adelie421> agreed. Linux truly embraces liberty as it was meant to be understood. I do not think it is cynical to understand the nature of progress
[04:35] <wgrant> cprov: It's all dead.
[04:35] <wgrant> cprov: But edge works sometimes.
[04:35] <wgrant> cprov: But very slowly.
[04:35] <solrize_> hi, i guess you all know that both bugs and edge appear down
[04:35] <wgrant> cprov: No LOSAs/canonical-sysadmins around.
[04:35] <LKRaider> can't access code either
[04:35] <wgrant> b1n42y: I have been in that channel since its inception, and recognised you from there.
[04:36] <dawsdesign> any idea when launchpad will be bach up?
[04:37] <wgrant> dawsdesign: Not at the moment. Hopefully a LOSA will magically (or not so magically) wake up and fix it soon.
[04:37] <adelie421> it is up, it is just VERY SLOW
[04:37] <dawsdesign> haha
[04:37] <dawsdesign> ok
[04:37] <dawsdesign> thanks
[04:39] <adelie421> Can anyone explain the security risk of signing the Code of Conduct with the default text? Whatever you sign you show the changes anyway, so what is the difference?
[04:39] <adelie421> (I know more about RSA in theory, not practice)
[04:56] <adelie421> *sigh* at least bazaar.launchpad.net is still working just fine.
[04:57] <wgrant> adelie421: Sysadmins are awoken and on it.
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[04:58] <adelie421> you kick one off your couch?
[05:01] <solrize_> seems to work now
[05:01] <solrize_> hmm, maybe not
[05:01] <adelie421> hehe, was about to say
[05:02] <solrize_> yep, still down
[05:21] <solrize_> hmm, this time seems back up for real
[05:21] <wgrant> librarian is still gone, though.
[05:21] <wgrant> But in a better way.
[05:22] <solrize_> what's librarian?  is that required for attaching files to bug comments?
[05:22] <wgrant> It stores all of the content files, so yes.
[05:23] <solrize_> i just did it and it worked
[05:23] <wgrant> And it's back.
[05:24] <lamalex> Hi, i'm trying to dput my .changes file
[05:24] <solrize_> thanks all
[05:24] <lamalex> it keeps telling me a .asc or .sig file needs to be first on the command line
[05:24] <lamalex> anyone know about this error?
[05:24] <wgrant> lamalex: What is the command line you're using?
[05:24] <wgrant> And is your .changes file signed inline?
[05:24] <lamalex> dput do-core-ppa gnome-do_0.8.1-0\~jaunty\~ppa1_source.changes
[05:25] <wgrant> (does it have ---- BEGIN SIGNED MESSAGE ---- or similar at the top?)
[05:25] <lamalex> wgrant: no
[05:25] <wgrant> lamalex: It needs to be signed. debsign something.changes
[05:26] <lamalex> thanks
[05:27]  * lamalex is not a packager, our packager is moving
[05:27] <lamalex> so im filling in
[05:27] <lamalex> sorry for stupid questions
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[05:28] <elmo> (everything should be back now, sorry for the delay)
[05:28] <wgrant> Thanks elmo.
[05:29]  * wgrant is glad it was a quick fix this time.
[05:32] <lamalex> wgrant: thanks, package uploaded :)
[05:32] <wgrant> lamalex: Don't be so sure just yet... wait until you get the email.
[05:33] <lamalex> well, im further than i was
[05:33] <lamalex> which is progress
[05:33] <wgrant> Indeed, indeed.
[05:36] <lamalex> wgrant: just got the email :)
[05:37] <wgrant> lamalex: Excellent.
[05:37] <lamalex> thanks
[07:54] <savvas> how do i delete FAQs ?
[07:55] <rockstar> savvas, I'm not sure you can.
[07:58] <savvas> argh
[07:59] <savvas> so how do i delete an outdated faq of a project? :P https://answers.launchpad.net/timekpr/+faq/217
[07:59] <savvas> rockstar: should I poke the admins or just use it to make another faq?
[08:00] <rockstar> savvas, well, while it might be outdated now, it was an FAQ at one point.  Why do you feel the need to delete it?
[08:01] <savvas> rockstar: actually nevermind, I will edit it, as it can be answered :)
[08:02] <savvas> thanks!
[08:02] <rockstar> savvas, no problem, although I'm not sure I did anything.  :)
[08:03] <savvas> oh no, did plenty! I just realised that I can just edit it :p
[08:03] <savvas> (need coffee, hehe)
[08:44] <savvas> is launchpad compatible with cia.vc ?
[09:59] <kiko> savvas, I think it is now -- or is it just ohloh?
[10:15] <savvas> kiko: it's ok, I found cia-clients and some more info on launchpad.net/bzr-cia :)
[10:17] <kiko> :)
[10:39] <savvas> does anyone happen to know how to add a permanent variable in .bzr/branch/branch.conf ?
[10:40] <savvas> for example, every time I do "bzr branch lp:timekpr somefolder" to get it with an extra variable set?
[10:41] <mdke> savvas: sorry, I can't help with this (you might get more help from bzr) but I saw above you were trying to get cia working - do you succeed? I'm interested in that
[10:41] <wgrant> savvas: What sort of variable?
[10:42] <savvas> wgrant: cia_project = timekpr
[10:42] <mdke> ah, that answers my question too, I guess :)
[10:42] <savvas> mdke: yes, it's all here: https://launchpad.net/bzr-cia :) you need cia-clients for it
[10:43] <mdke> savvas: can it be done on the server side so that any commit made to a LP branch works, or just on a local branch?
[10:43] <wgrant> savvas: You might be able to set it in ~/.bzr/locations.conf
[10:43] <savvas> mdke: that's what I'm looking for :)
[10:43] <wgrant> savvas: But #bzr would know.
[10:43] <mdke> savvas: let me know how you go :)
[10:43] <savvas> I'll ask there wgrant thank you very much!
[10:43] <savvas> mdke: will do :)
[10:45] <mdke> I guess the Launchpad servers would need bzr-cia installed too
[10:46] <savvas> so it makes it a launchpad thing too :P
[10:47] <savvas> I wonder if I should file a wishlist bug hehe
[10:50] <mdke> I would definitely like to see a feature that commits could be broadcast into an irc channel
[10:50] <savvas> yes, that's what I need it for as well :)
[10:50] <mdke> it tends to give a bit of extra vitality to a slow channel, like #ubuntu-doc - when we used svn we had the feature, but not since moving to Launchpad
[10:51] <wgrant> Soyuz is supposedly going to be getting something XMPPish at some point.
[10:52] <wgrant> And lp-bzr does send emails already, so it's not too much of a stretch.
[10:52] <mdke> the wubi project seems to have got this working - http://cia.vc/stats/project/wubi
[10:52] <mdke> this is their branch: https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-installer/wubi/trunk
[10:53] <mdke> let's ask them how they did it
[10:58]  * mdke emails
[10:59] <mdke> hmm, all the Ubuntu installer team projects seem to have it working :)
[11:00] <wgrant> mdke: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallerDevelopment#IRC%20notification
[11:00] <mdke> wgrant: ah, thanks. So each committer needs to set it up
[11:01] <wgrant> Or somebody needs to watch for mail.
[11:02] <savvas> bug 342729 - I hope it's ok :)
[11:02] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 342729 in launchpad "[wishlist] Please add built-in support for cia.vc commit updates" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/342729
[11:03] <savvas> I just checked their branch lp:wubi, it doesn't have the cia variable
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[11:58] <cumulus007> I requested a PO file on Launchpad, but I haven't receveid the mail yet
[11:59] <cumulus007> I requested it a half hour ago
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[13:10] <cumulus007> Why are the translation suggestions gone?
[13:12] <wgrant> cumulus007: You might get a better response during a working day.
[13:13] <cumulus007> hmm, indeed
[13:20] <Pegasus_RPG_> Hello
[13:21] <Pegasus_RPG_> Should the diff on a merge proposal page update automatically if a change was pushed to the branch in question?
[13:22] <Pegasus_RPG_> Because it doesn't
[13:22] <wgrant> Pegasus_RPG_: No. You can use something like https://launchpad.net/mad to do it.
[13:23] <Pegasus_RPG_> ok, so how do I use it?
[13:23] <wgrant> IIRC the README tells you.
[13:24] <wgrant> But I just run, through cron, 'mad.py -p <PROJECT NAME> -r /path/to/local/repo'
[13:25] <Pegasus_RPG_> oh ok, I run it locally. Got it
[13:25] <wgrant> Yep.
[13:26] <Pegasus_RPG_> Thank you, sir
[13:26] <Pegasus_RPG_> (I wonder why that's not integrated into LP?)
[13:26] <wgrant> From what I hear, it's too expensive.
[13:26] <wgrant> I can't say I buy that, however.
[13:29] <Pegasus_RPG_> Well, I can see it if hundreds of commits are going on at once
[13:29] <Pegasus_RPG_> but why not have it only generate a diff if someone asks for it?
[13:30] <Pegasus_RPG_> I.e. instead of just displaying it, have just a "download diff" button that is up-to-date?
[13:30] <Pegasus_RPG_> or "view diff" or whatever
[13:39] <mdke> cumulus007: see http://blog.launchpad.net/translations/performance-week-in-translations-land
[13:39] <mdke> cumulus007: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-translators/2009-March/002162.html is also informative
[13:40] <cumulus007> aah, performance improvements
[13:40] <cumulus007> finally
[13:41] <cumulus007> okay, no problem
[13:41] <cumulus007> a well working Rosetta is much more important than some suggestions :)
[16:58] <infinity0> hi, i'm having problems with branching off launchpad
[16:58] <infinity0> it connects then it just pauses there doing nothing, and the progress bar says
[16:59] <infinity0> - [=======================                                                                           ] Transferring 0/4
[16:59] <infinity0> also before that i get "Server is too old for streaming pull, reconnecting.  (Upgrade the server to Bazaar 1.2 to avoid this)"
[17:04] <Odd_Bloke> infinity0: What version of bzr are you using?
[17:04] <infinity0> Bazaar (bzr) 1.5
[17:05] <Odd_Bloke> And what command are you running?
[17:05] <infinity0>  bzr branch lp:adchpp
[17:05] <infinity0> oh actually
[17:05] <infinity0> lol
[17:05] <infinity0> it's done it now
[17:05] <infinity0> but the progress bar was stuck there for quite a few minutes :|
[17:06] <infinity0> but yeah, "Branched 144 revision(s)."
[17:10] <LarstiQ> infinity0: yeah, the progress bars have become much better recently
[17:11] <infinity0> ahh i see, debian has 1.13 in unstable
[17:11] <infinity0> i'll try that
[17:12] <LarstiQ> 1.13rc1 I think, but that has progress bar fixes too :)
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[19:08] <Bert_2> Hi, I requested some translation files in PO format, they should be mailed to em according to launchpad but more than an hour has passed and I still haven't received it, is launchpad still busy or do I have problems with my mail server ?
[19:09] <kiko__> Bert_2, I think our mail handling broke yesterday evening and I don't quite know why
[19:09] <Bert_2> kiko__: okey, thanks, I was already thinking I broke my postfix server or something similar
[19:10] <kiko__> I'm asking our IS but it's saturday so.. YKWIM :-/
[19:11] <Bert_2> kiko__: yeah, that's why I have a VPS :D :P
[19:11] <kiko__> :)
[19:12] <Bert_2> kiko__: I hope it gets fixed soon
[19:12] <Bert_2> cause I want to get as much translations in before LPT Deadline
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[19:17] <kiko__> that's two of us!!
[19:35] <Bert_2> kiko__: lol, I just tried to translate the janitor, that's very complex
[19:35] <Bert_2> kiko__: they use some phrase which aren't proper english I'm afraid
[19:37] <kiko__> heh
[19:37] <kiko__> that's worth filing a bug
[19:39] <Bert_2> kiko__: I'll do that then
[19:41] <Bert_2> kiko__: can you check please, this isn't a proper english phrase: "Don't actually remove anything, just to do so. This is useful for testing stuff." right ?
[19:42] <Bert_2> ???
[19:47] <kiko__> if you remove the comma it is less confusing
[19:47] <kiko__> I think it means that you shouldn't remove stuff unless you know what you are doing?
[19:49] <Bert_2> kiko__: yeah, but it's not a proper phrase
[20:01] <sianis> hi
[20:02] <sianis> is rosetta po exporting closed?
[20:03] <Bert_2> sianis: launchpad is having problems with mailing
[20:04] <sianis> ok, thx
[20:05] <Bert_2> sianis: but we're not sure
[20:05] <Bert_2> (IS has been informed
[20:05] <Bert_2> )
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[22:14] <vadi2> Hi, my ppa broke a bit. It's not asking for a password on a dput anymore, and it's not building new packages I send it
[22:21] <LarstiQ> vadi2: are you sure you are dputting to the right location?
[22:22] <LarstiQ> vadi2: also, iirc, afaik, aiui, ppa access is anonymous ftp anyway
[22:25] <vadi2> LarstiQ: no I wasn't, I forgot the ppa argument
[22:37] <c_korn> hello
[22:38] <c_korn> can anyone tell me why this build freezes when build in a ubuntu official build machine while it builds fine in about 10 minutes in a PPA: https://launchpad.net/+builds/yellow/+index
[22:48] <wgrant> c_korn: Same distroseries, and built around the same time?
[22:49] <wgrant> No dep differences in the PPA?
[22:49] <c_korn> wgrant: yes
[22:49] <c_korn> wgrant: only a changelog entry :P
[22:49] <wgrant> What other packages are in that PPA?
[22:50] <c_korn> wgrant: vlc :P hasn't anything to do with it
[22:50] <wgrant> Hm.
[22:51] <wgrant> c_korn: https://launchpad.net/soyuz/+filebug, given that nobody relevant is around.
[22:51] <c_korn> wgrant: thanks
[22:51] <cody-somerville> the PPA buildds are virtual hosts whereas the distro buildds are physical hosts.
[22:52] <cody-somerville> That may explain why it builds fine on the PPA but not the distro buildds if the package does something weird at build time.
[22:53] <wgrant> That's the only significant difference, so it's probably not anything else.
[22:54] <c_korn> cody-somerville: what significance does the config.log file have? as I see there is one in the debian orig tarball but not in the (from developers) published tarball.
[22:54] <cody-somerville> c_korn, That sounds like a logfile.
[22:55] <c_korn> so no reason to worry about?
[22:55] <cody-somerville> c_korn, However, it disturbs me that the debian orig tarball doesn't match the upstream's
[22:55] <cody-somerville> We generally like them to md5sum match
[22:57] <c_korn> cody-somerville: oh, wait. the log file is not in the debian tarball but in the ubuntu tarball. very odd
[22:57] <wgrant> Why are they not bit-identical?
[22:58] <cody-somerville> Yes, that is odd since the Ubuntu version is based off the Debian version.
[22:58] <c_korn> oh, wait. I must have mixed up something. let me recheck it ...
[22:58] <wgrant> Are the checksums the same in your PPA and the primary archive?
[22:59] <cody-somerville> Yea, the tarball *has* to match since this upstream version was synced from Debian
[23:00] <cody-somerville> Soyuz would not have allowed an upload with a mistmatched md5sum
[23:02] <cody-somerville> I wonder if it causes the other archs to freeze up.
[23:02] <cody-somerville> A number of archs FTBFS due to scilab missing at the time
[23:03]  * cody-somerville imagines that the truth is that yellow has probably died for whatever reason and this build didn't actually cause it.
[23:03] <c_korn> cody-somerville: it is actually the second try.
[23:04] <c_korn> after it first has frozen (on another build machine if I imagine right) a MOTU has retried it
[23:04] <c_korn> ok the md5sums of the tarballs match. that was false alarm
[23:05] <cody-somerville> Okay, I'll retry on powerpc then and see if it freezes up a powerpc builder.
[23:06] <c_korn> cody-somerville: scilab-5 could not be built for ppc (that is a scilab bug.) and sivp build-depends on scilab-5
[23:06] <cody-somerville> ah
[23:06] <cody-somerville> yellow seems to be unfrozen btw
[23:07] <cody-somerville> It timed out.
[23:07] <c_korn>  * State: Failed to build
[23:07] <c_korn>  * Duration: 2 hours 40 minutes
[23:08] <c_korn> I get mad if it turns out this is a scilab bug. it's a pain to build scilab on ubuntu. and it took months to get scilab-5 into jaunty
[23:09] <c_korn> but as I see sivp-0.5.0 already hasn't been published for amd64 on debian: http://packages.debian.org/sid/sivp
[23:21] <cody-somerville> c_korn, yea
[23:22] <c_korn> ok, did not know. a motu edited my changelog. so he is to blame :P
[23:22] <c_korn> you will see the build succeed: https://launchpad.net/+builds/actinium
[23:29] <c_korn> cody-somerville: voila. https://launchpad.net/~c-korn/+archive/ppa/+build/904702
[23:29] <cody-somerville> Interesting
[23:30] <cody-somerville> c_korn, Poke me again on Monday if the problem isn't resolved by then
[23:31] <c_korn> ok, I also need to sleep now.
[23:31] <c_korn> thanks and bye
[23:31] <cody-somerville> bye :]